She BANKRUPTS Men?! Women STRONGER?! Debate GOD Andrew Wilson! Ahegao Queen Nala! | Dating Talk #123

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uh the San Fernando Valley correct or no. oh wait like I thought you said you live. in the valley yeah kind of like terana. area oh okay oh okay already bore xcore. donated. $200 no just when you thought you were. going to get peace Nala not on my watch. you will never find L as. you come let let him speak let him speak. your value equates to a stale soggy. Black and Mild no not the black thanks.

Daddy. wow there's 100% chance that guy's also. sub to your only fans most likely most. likely you want your iPhone case maybe. turn it towards the camera so uh do you. like. it okay there you go bad ZX um thanks. for the comment all right um You said. you do martial arts what uh like. Brazilian jiujitsu um Jiu-Jitsu not. Brazilian jiu-jitsu but Jiu-Jitsu more. is like taking people to the ground I.

like taekwondo I really like Wing ta ho. ho I'm kidding I'm kidding sorry that. was a ter no it's not that was a. terrible joke okay um but just multiple. forms I think it's important to know. multiple forms of martial arts okay very. oh wow okay they're already stated. $200 ladies your past does not dictate. your future through the Andrew married a. feminist minded Elder baby mama with a. high body count and two kids by her. ex-boyfriend this proves there is hope.

for 304s everywhere looks like they have. smoke for everybody tonight so let let. me let me respond we haven't even. introduced by kind of letting you know. that you're probably a rampant. homosexual and I have no respect for you. whatsoever so just letting you know and. none of that's true by the way so just. letting you know that too I didn't. believe it okay good talk um wow all. right um off to a great start here um. this going be fun Okay so so uh what.

about. you uh yeah my name is kylo I go by NATO. aidite online I a progressive liberal. who's radical in all the right places. did you say age 29 oh 29 okay gotcha. what about you hi I'm pixie I'm 24 um. I'm a progressive streamer and I'm also. a partnership coordinator with PB so. that's what I'm currently doing what. about you hi I'm Caitlyn I'm 19 I'm from. Jacksonville North.

Carolina um I'm a progressive leftist. radical as well or pretty radical I. would like to say um okay rad yeah very. a little maybe a not too crazy all right. radical writing that down okay what. about you um my name is Eden diabetic. coochie uh okay diabetic cooch so you're. a my new only fans you oh and but you. have diabetes okay um is it type one.

type two or type one people usually. don't know so okay got it uh age I'm 22. 22 okay gotcha and uh all right what. about you hi I'm Salem lyx and uh I'm 20. years old I a model and I do only fans. all right welcome what about you hi I'm. Alexa I'm 27 I'm from Silicon Valley and. I am a project manager in Tech.

no no only fans no only fans I'm tempted. though I hear how much money y'all make. and I'm not going to. lie my name is uh my name is Andrew. Wilson I'm a far-right Christian. populist I guess that would be the. closest you could describe me as um and. I own a channel on YouTube called The. Crucible which I host and it's one of. the fastest growing debate channels if. not the fastest growing debate Channel. on YouTube all right cool so we're. you're not on only fans Not okay who the.

hell would want to pay for. that I'd pay for it are you proposing a. collaboration Nala between I mean chran. I was a pastor's daughter oh actually. wait we have some news articles about. that that we can look at quick about. that yeah so you used to be maybe you. can tell us briefly about that history. so I was a pastor's daughter starting as. a pre-teen my dad was a pastor for like. 5 years um very Baptist pastor and then. we went into like nomination kind what. kind of Baptist was he.

he was it you went to non-dom so I'm. guessing like probably Center probably. not fundament like did women have to. wear skirts absolutely not no there was. like modesty rules but not like extreme. modesty rules um very very tradition in. in worship very much so yes yes um but. then we moved to non- denomination and. um slowly but surely he kind of got out. of the church as a pastor and just kept. going to church and then you know I. became a sinner. so wow okay um good times we have some a.

couple news articles about that that U. about how I have like s oh no. my gay that's the guy I until he. became gay oh my god oh wow okay I went. from pastor's daughter to millionaire. only fans model and make nearly $150,000. a month or sorry that's wait you did. what now what did. what h no I was just hold on let's just. went from being a pastor's daughter to a. but you still use coupons okay scroll.

down so that's look wow oh my God other. side on side. pleas um wow that's quite the. transformation you play violin I yeah. wait hold on I think I was. like damn I look like I was like. SC scroll down a little bit please just. so it's at the top of also younger I. know that's so weird what a. transformation know.

your body looks like you're 20 thanks my. body hasn't changed you still play. violin next time next time we get you on. maybe violin solo okay if you sub you. can watch or play violin it actually can. I have you tilt your microphone down. what's there's another article too right. curious what's the article so oh this is. the mirror I gave up life as a pastor. daughter to sell Saucy snaps and now I'm. a millionaire scroll down it was more. than sausy. snaps oh look it was just a. baby wow. huge trans oh wow okay all right off we.

go all right okay what's a uh what's a. saucy snap a nude. spicy badore xcore donated. $200 first off only fans subscribers are. simps and beaters that get no play I. don't give women money would I ever faom. subbing on only fans PS according to. Reddit Nal your nudes are trash they pay. for the good ones let's try to be nice.

let's try to be nice you don't have to. be nice I love this he say I love pay. $200 to say that like I think he's a ba. male who gets no play if he spent $200. to say that yeah you say like you're. just trying so hard to prove your point. and that is just sadic subscribing to. her only fans you basically just paid a. room of women and you were like I don't. women money like that thank you so much. I ain't getting paid so I think I was. just going right to. Brian Good Times all right thank you um.

oh so going around the table what is. everybody's current relationship status. so are you single talking stage. situationship Friends with Benefits. relationship married polyu sex cult. Harum if you're single how long have you. been single what's the longest. relationship you've ever been in God. I've been single for almost two years. now uh January the end of January will. be two years I'm really really happy. actually I feel like I've grown so much. in these last two years by myself and. with my puppies and um I don't know my. life has just improved so much not.

having someone like hold me down um and. yeah that's it and you're did you say. how long your longest relationship was M. almost 3 years cuz I almost got married. so is that the one that ended two years. ago or is that a different no that was a. different one gotcha gotcha okay what. about you uh I've been married for 6. years we've been together for like seven. and a half um and that's obviously my. longest relationship sorry you've been. married for six years gotcha got married. at 23 yeah got it.

okay um my longest relationship has been. like three almost four years um I'm. currently single um and yeah how long. have you been single for um about a year. okay got it what about you I'm currently. single more single than last time he. ghosted me. officially um yeah so that's been for. about two two-ish weeks and then my. longest relationship ship was about 3.

years may he rest in peace he just. passed away um sorry to hear this is. this wait he just passed away was he cuz. you were just on two weeks ago so is. this something that happened in the past. two weeks yeah happened last week on. Thanksgiving well sorry to hear that uh. wow so you've been single though uh but. you last time you were on you were in. the situation ship kind it like towards. the LA it was like the last legs of the. situation ship okay is that what the the. man who passed away no okay give me uh.

give me a reminder on the whole. situationship situation um so we were. talking we were like we caught feelings. for each other really fast he was a. marine so we started talking about. marriage and then it kind of got really. pressure like I the I think the idea of. the marriage put a lot of pressure on. him so um and then he and also ended up. realizing I or coming to the realization. that I was not the person that he wanted. to spend the rest of his life with which. is fine so we were chitchatting here and.

there every couple days and. then actually last time I flew out to. California was the last time that me and. him have had a conversation okay got it. now was the breakdown this relationship. due to your appearance on the whatever. podcast I he didn't say anything about. it so okay okay I thought maybe he saw. you on and I don't know he didn't ever. say anything we talked like once or. twice maybe after the podcast okay maybe. I see okay all right gotcha what about.

you um that's my pump uh I've been. single for a little less than a year. okay yeah uh all right and longest. relationship uh my longest relationship. was like 3 years three years got it okay. a little less than a year all right what. about you um I've been in like an on. andof relationship can I have you just. tilt the microphone up a little bit. scoot it close towards you and speak. close into it please go ahead I've been. in an on and off relationship Rel ship.

for it's been a situationship and then. like a relationship but it's been on and. off and I think we're done now but you. think you're done well we are done now. oh you are done how long have you been. done um about 2 weeks two weeks okay and. yes and my longest relationship was 3. years gotcha and how long were you. seeing this on again off again n months. how long n months N9 months got it how. many times was it off on too many to.

count too many like every other every. fortnite every other week like we'd be. like yeah we're done like every week who. more often than not who would be me. ending things every single time or. sometimes he would every single time so. if you I mean nine months if it was. every week so are we talking uh like 30. plus times on them off yeah yeah 40 plus. 50 50 no like like 30 okay um who would. go back to who like or who would ask to.

get back together you or him probably. him yeah probably him him okay and so. but you would end things but why would. you keep taking him back well he would. change he said he would change he said. he would change and um it was a. situation where I feel like I I in the. relationship I felt so masculine in a. point where like I don't feel like I was. able to be feminine and he uh is a very.

emotional person okay and so um it was. just kind of a thing where he would make. me feel. um you know like I would have to kind of. take him back because he would you know. just be emotional and you know and I. felt bad so I would stay and then he. just wouldn't um change so I yeah so I. felt like the man in the Rel. relationship basically and when you were.

breaking up with him was there something. spe like would he be cheating on you. would he be starting like an argument or. something no uh it was basically just. like I felt like I was babying him like. I I am the I'm the I make money in the. relationship I'm the only one like that. you know I'm the. soul you're 20 right how how old was he. he's 22 22 okay how did how do you guys. meet in person inag he DM you he found. me on live yeah. oh okay was he one cuz you do o right so.

was he one well no no no he found me on. Tik Tok oh on Tik Tok what was it like a. dance video or something no just like a. live I used to go live just get ready. with me stuff like that okay so he slid. into the DMS did you guys live in the. same city was this uh yeah no he lived. uh like an hour away he lived in La okay. I see all right and so 30 plus times on. again off again yeah and I mean when I. say that I mean it very lightly like I. would just be like yeah I'm done like. and then like you know sounds healthy um.

yeah but it it was just I you get tired. of um I feel like you when you are at a. point in your life when you are you know. you feel like you're ready to settle. down and you um have everything that you. feel like you need in your life to uh. succeed and you feel like you're you. know finally at a point where you don't. need anybody and somebody comes into. your life and you know and not at the. same level it's hard to um it's hard to.

you know have a relationship with them. cuz I feel like you grow a resentment in. um like I I want us to be on the same. level but you're not doing anything to. get on my level so it's. just okay so it's been off for two weeks. has he tried to get back with you or is. this the final straw final straw you. sure yeah cuz I. mean there's been 30 plus previous. attempts to call it off definitely this.

could be number 31 you know no final St. final you committed to it on the. whatever podcast so we're going to have. you back in two months and we're going. to need an update if it actually was the. final I'm leaving to Dubai like back to. Dubai so I uh feel like once I go back. there yeah well I grew up in Dubai oh. okay okay makes sense cuz I've heard. some some people sometimes people go. there no for certain gigs no no no I. grew up there oh. so um I just uh brought uh bought an.

apartment over there so I'm planning on. you know starting my life over there and. um you know so I feel like once I go. there it's kind of like I move on you. know do you have uh so do you have what. is it UAE citizenship no so I like were. you Bor I just became a US citizen so um. but since like I've lived there before. and we my parents have had property over. there like. we you know no one actually gets UA.

citizenship it's actually nobody has you. just get a Visa like a living Visa you. have residency or C dual ciens gotcha. you mentioned that one of the issues in. the relationship was that you were. making money you felt like you're the. provider in the relationship um but and. you don't need to say a number but I do. know it can be the case that when a. woman gets involved with only fans for. example the there's a lot of potential. to make a lot of money right whereas.

like a 22-year-old guy who might not be. well established in his career might not. have the opportunity to match somebody. who's around his age cohort so do you. think that you know I completely agree. and and there's a thing where I told him. I don't need you to make money like I. don't need you to make like crazy money. I don't even need you to make like. $10,000 a month I just want you to show. me that you're working you're hustling. you have ambition to work I see but. there was none of that you know there.

there was no urgency to make money and. that's a problem for me do any of the. other women at the panel have you had. this experience with with a guy yes yes. so many it's just so hard because even. if they're not working it's like what. are you doing like you I'm interested in. this this this and this and you kind of. just maybe go to the gym and like that's. not enough so many people go to the gym. but like I want to do this and this and. you can't even come with me to this. stuff so it doesn't even have anything. to do with only fans like our hobbies in. general like I'm we're just more people.

like than that you know like we're more. of a person and so it's really difficult. to see a guy they're like oh the girl's. making all the cash like I don't need to. do much she's got the house she's got. the car her life is put together even if. it is only fans money you know we still. did it and now we're doing better things. with our life yeah speaking of cars can. we find a picture of Nala's green. Lamborghini uh it's outside yes I saw it. I was like she's here she's here she.

made it poison ivy is here you know what. you should get a photo with Pixie after. the matching green you know I would love. that it's so hot you should post it on. your Instagram be like this is my Lambo. this is mine Lambo I was supposed to say. that's that's oh that's it oh she pretty. I oh she's so pretty search for is it. that that's the Daniel Mac video so. that's it that's literally it which one. the one just top left Nick go ahead yeah. is that is that Rodeo Drive yeah I did.

it with Daniel Mac anyway strer no are. there any photos of it on your IG or. there might be it's okay I don't know. we'll take one together later are you is. there any room for you to scoot your. chair like this way and Scoot it into. the table it's on like or no uh is there. any no no you guys stay there but is a. little bit I just it's it's the leg I. just see this squishes you into like I. just see this gaping hole yeah sorry my. like right there sorry my ocds okay okay.

it's okay okay um all right uh I was. going to say actually um at one point in. my relationship I kind of felt. similarly. um but the your current marriage got and. it led to a lot of issues and I think I. realized like I'm not speaking this of. other women I have no idea but there was. a lot of things that he was doing all. the time for me that I didn't really see. and I I think like honor or respect and. so I like grew this like level of.

frustration towards him that like. luckily I was able to like kind of snap. my head out of it and be like yeah he's. not like making a ton of money it was. also during Co he was a personal trainer. he like literally cannot work and then. he would come up with a new business. ideas and then there like they like were. watching his business plan strategies. and we like actually no Park workouts. either now and he's like come on um so. there like wasn't a ton to do but he was. doing everything that he could around. the house he was cleaning he was cooking. he was participating um the issue is. that like I was working full time and. also doing some of those things and I.

think um I don't know I feel like this. like Financial thing that people get. fixated on it tears relationships apart. probably more than it needs to cuz I. think we get like weird Notions about. what money needs to look like in a. relationship um and I guess it just like. changed my mind uh I realized like I. don't really care if he's making money. that much okay I care a lot about like. is he high quality character do I trust. him do I feel safe with him is he good. to me is he sexy does they make me feel. sexy like all of these important things.

of an important relationship do you have. the similar spiritual values uh and the. answer is yes and I'm not saying that. you guys should or shouldn't have broken. up I have no idea I'm just so glad that. I was able to like that's incredible. break my head out of that because I love. my husband um oh did you have something. for then I have a question and I I want. to add to that because oh into the mic. if you can oh sorry I want to add to. that because um I feel like I mean um. when you're in a relationship and you. know there's there's something called.

you know a lot of people go through like. 50/50 and like there's a lot of talk. between should it be 50/50 should it be. a man treats a woman blah blah blah and. a lot of people have their own you. know ideas on what a relationship should. be and what it shouldn't and I feel like. from where I come from like my culture. and my tradition it's always been you. know a man takes care of a woman right. but obviously like I see a. relationship as you know we should be. 50-50 in where we both trust each other. we both do whatever we can to support.

each other and whatever it might be but. in this case like if a. man or in this case like if a man isn't. um you know like you said your man was. doing stuff around the house he was you. know he's a personal trainer he d d d du. in in a lot of cases it's um like in. mine he wanted me to take that first. step with him where it was like I want. you to help me find what I want to do I.

want you to help me go work out I want. you to be there with me when I go find. this and I want and I was like I can't. help you take those baby steps I will be. there for you I will support you but you. need to find what you want to do because. and for me my when I started the only. fans he was around and he wanted to get. involved with that right and I was like. yeah like I I want you to be. involved let's make money. but then to a point where it was like. okay you're not doing anything else.

you're always on just video games you're. not cleaning the house you're not doing. anything so it felt like I wanted that. to be my own thing and I wanted him to. have his own thing and I wanted him to. grow in doing his own thing and then. once we do have that then we can you. know come back and make money together. that guy before you started your only. fans yes yes and and we had a. conversation did the only fans help help. that so we had a conversation like.

before I started and he was the one that. kind of nudged me into you know do you. know you can make money off this like. you know and I was like yeah so he told. me like I don't want to lose you to this. I don't want you to you know cuz he's. seen a lot of girls change and I mean. we've all seen a lot of once a girl. starts or anyone starts making money. like that you know it changes people. sometimes so that was definitely a. conversation that we had but I also feel. like. um he he would Seven Deadly simps.

donated $200 God would you Daton or fell. at Brian also my sprinkler goes like. this amazing comes back like. this uh if you want to answer the. question P question would you date. or.

f i I have a strict um no red pill or. red pill adjacent. men shoot guys I'm uh I'm out of luck. I'm out of luck I'm deeply hurt um we. won't make you buy your dinner when you. go on a date what wait wait wait wait. what if I turn blue pill oh I'd be open. he would never convert me. Mommy okay um so can I ask a question to. the only girls real quick in these. relationships like did you did.

you were you able to articulate what you. need in a relationship it wasn't if it. wasn't a financial or monetary like did. you verbalize to them what they could. contribute cuz I feel like for a lot of. guys like depending on how you're. raised there's a small window of where. men feel like they can contribute and. feel like they have a purpose and have. that and unless someone's willing to. articulate something other than that you. know I I don't fault. makes sense yo Sweet Tooth thank you for.

the gifted 20 memberships um if you guys. can give quick responses to that go. ahead I feel like kind of similar to. what she said like for me it's not even. about them being able to make the same. money as me cuz like you were saying. it's not the most realistic thing all. the time especially at the age it's more. about the ambition and I've definitely. like articulated that in past. relationships and there's been times. where I feel like I was more blinded. when I was younger about the money and. someone was doing everything they could. and then there's been times where a man. just had no ambition period. mhm for me I feel like I'm very good at.

communicating what I want I because like. I I'm gone this far in life and I know. what I want and it's it's easy to. communicate that and it's actually very. simple if you don't have money that's. fine I got us we're good you can. live with me that's fine I'll be Mommy. and Daddy but for me it's like don't you. have a tattoo here wait Nick yeah can. you show it to this camera right here. you have a daddy tattoo on your on your. lip was the best thing I ever got. absolutely not and if it did pain is.

pleasure there's very few nerves in the. front of your leg don't those disappear. after a while too I heard that but it's. been like two years right now yeah it's. really it's the same thing with your. fingers if you it's just so wet. Brian Haram okay good good time um so. yeah it's easy to communicate but for me. it's really the simplest things I want. to go take a drive with you at Sunset I. want to I want your attention like don't. just be on your phone we're in such a. an age right now where like everyone's. stuck in their phones and I'm like man.

put it away like I worked and bust my. ass so we could be here and you're on. your phone like you you're like oh I'm. grinding I'm grinding like no I'm right. here yeah so what what do you feel like. though is is your limit like would you. be in a relationship with someone where. okay like the first couple years you. guys you know you're the bread winner. and he you know it's cool like he's. giving you attention he's giving you all. that and then you get married blah blah.

blah and he's still not getting a job. not doing you know so if I get married. to someone we have an amazing connection. and money never mattered anyway so it. just it wouldn't carry on to all of a. sudden matter because I make very smart. Financial moves for my own future which. means I would have been making it for. both of us well do you do you want to. get married though yes you do okay want. to get married I do very down the line. i' I've really had these last two years. to really think and get to know myself I.

started this book called The Art of. being alone and it really talks you. through like loving yourself and like. you're not alone you're literally just. with yourself like date yourself like do. things with yourself and it's it's eye. openening I've changed so much in these. last two years being single and I don't. feel like anyone's ever encouraged me to. be better once I started getting better. the resentment came in and it was like. like oh I don't want to feel this way. with you you make me feel like I'm.

better but you're like putting me on. this weird pedestal and then you're. jealous of it and it's odd and it makes. me feel uncomfortable makes me feel like. you're a little beta makes wait makes. you feel like a little beta no it makes. me feel like they're a little beta I'm. daddy you like what you like correct or. well she wants to take care of you want. I'm a nurturer but I don't want to be. the like like you still have to protect. me you want to be feminine I exactly I'm. not put a St. or some like I literally I thought. you did only wom only wom I've never.

a man in the ass with the thing. is once you hit pork you money then it. is irrelevant who made it but how it is. made does matter selling your body is. probably a suboptimal way to get. there yeah do we think he's had sex in. last. year if I could ask I think he's married. um well I let me get through a couple of. my questions cuz I'm I'm you got it I've. got back here um coming back to you. really quick you were talking about um.

your relationship with your husband are. you the bread winner that's what stem. this conversation are you you're the. bread winner in the relationship and. you're you're cool with that absolutely. okay yeah and um let me see hold on my. other note here I guess just to make. sure cuz I really I'm really really. intentional because I think a lot of. people when they hear that my biggest. frustration actually in any social media. platform is people trying to demasculate. my husband in any way so I think a lot. of what you girls are talking about is. this lack of like respect and even. though I'm the bread winner there's no.

world in which I don't have like the. highest respect for my husband he's. still very masculine um he just doesn't. bring in as much money and to be honest. most of the money I bring in is kind of. a team effort because almost all my. business Adventures he's business. planning with me we coordinating. together so it's. like I'm bringing all the money in but. at the end of the day I wouldn't be here. without him. partnership and I think that's a big. thing too is it's like I I feel bad for. because I I I have been in a.

relationship where I'm the bread winner. and I've I've know people women where. they're the bread winner and it's like. it has nothing to do with masculinity. with a guy but I noticed the man feels. that way whether or not you treat him. that way I think it happens for right. because you're taking care of everything. not only are you you have the money you. got the car you might have the the space. be putting a roof over their head but. you're also grocery shopping and. cleaning and doing everything a woman is. like. f but I also feel like for you like you.

guys have like an understanding in your. relationship right like he does other. things like it's not just about money. like when I said that it was not about. money at all it was about I want you to. do something I don't want you to just. sit at home and play games that is I. don't care about money if you're. literally going of volunteering I would. love that that that would be enough for. me to take care of you pay everything. I would have agreed 2 years ago CU. that's exactly what I said but then I.

realized the only thing I about. in life is being happy and having a. Content life and the reality is like. I've found that like most men I think. maybe you guys would agree is there like. a crisis of masculinity going on period. oh it's so bad but it's because of our. generation agree I think a lot of women. we're pressing a lot on oh women's. rights women's like which we we should. have we should but I think it's to the. point where now it's okay like a lot of.

men are you know stepping down and. feeling emasculated and I feel like men. are afraid to be masculine because it's. also like if you're masculine. you're Alexa you you said that in. previous relationships you were the. breadwinner at one point but it sounded. like I've had both so correct me if I'm. wrong though you said that you think. it's more so on the man's side an issue. when the woman out earns is that your. position that that was at typically the.

man who has an issue with with a woman. out earning him yeah because I I didn't. have a problem or is it the case that. women become resentful of their Partners. when. they donated. $200 bitly sl3 ago3. CX give FC UK most if not all feminists. are gay guys never argue with a. 304 Brian how much for your dignity how. much for my dignity $100 million is his.

answer uh how much for my dignity uh. seven about 350 thank you modest panel. no it's a great panel show BC High. Caliber guest no offense Andrew Tech PM. your devs hate you if you don't know how. to code bet u e girl lip filler looks. bad panel what is a woman you spent $200. a woman someone was a you spent.

$200 to say that on a trash that was. crazy that was crazy also my devs have. no problem that I for the fact that I. can't code CU that's what they do I'm a. I'm a glorified mom if anything and I. make sure a glorified mom I make sure. they get their work done and that's how. it goes cuz they left on their own they. won't get it done so just to address it. uh we were originally going to have uh. Michael nolles on the show but. unfortunately uh he had to uh cancel. there's this last minute thing with the. uh daily wire but we are going to. reschedule and I think I announced it I.

might have announced him previously but. uh we are going to reschedule that uh. for a future date so sometimes just you. know last minute things uh cancellation. so we've had him on the show before. we've had Candice also from the daily. wire so we'll uh we'll we'll get him. back uh on eventually but uh yeah um. okay I forgot where we were um I think I. was just addressing your oh did you have. something go ahead go ahead I just um to. add I was gonna say I mean it kind of. goes with he said the what is the woman. thing I feel like you can't really like. like okay when girls say a relationship. should be 50/50 or shouldn't I feel like.

so many things it kind of goes into like. sexuality it's a it's a preference some. girls they know that the way they'll be. happy is being in their utmost feminine. being provided for and there's a man. who's going to enjoy doing that there's. a woman who wants to take care of a man. and prefers a submissive man there's a. girl who doesn't mind taking care of a. man and he can still be the masculine. one it's like everyone has their own. preferences and then just trying to put. other people's relationship in a box. kind of just shows you're unhappy with. yourself oh true if you was that. directed at the most recent chatter or I.

mean I just kind of got It's just in. general but then when he was saying the. what is a woman it kind of me of that. cuz in the similar light like what being. a woman would be different to each woman. what makes them feel like a woman well. since he did ask we might as well go. around the table on this and I do I have. a ton of questions I still need to. initial I mean I have a dozen questions. but uh what is a woman oh boy he wants. to get in they want they want to get. into it right away wow so I do believe. in God and I believe that God created.

man and woman and I know this is. stepping on toes and just again everyone. has their own opinion I'm not forcing. mine on anyone this is purely just what. I believe that your God think that it's. a sin to do only fans are you talking. about my God or our god well what God do. you believe in well well the God that I. believe in thinks that that's a sin okay. I agree with that too I don't think that. God's like looking down at me and being. like oh great job Nala that's the daddy. I created right there um so you think so.

you think that the god that you believe. in knows that you're sinning and you're. just doing it anyway yeah but isn't that. what Sinners do uh well I I mean I guess. but it's not usually what religious. people do religious people don't usually. cl to be religious what is religious I. don't understand well isn't all religion. is different than Christianity like I. mean Christian that's why what your. relationship with God is different. what's your God though what is it what's. my God the Messiah the only God yeah. who's that though what's the nature of. this God the nature like is it a.

Christian God yeah yeah is it it's the. Christian God it's not like the Buddha. God so the Christian God has a nature to. him right and part of the nature he. created nature yeah but also has a. nature you don't think so I mean I feel. like I'm confused by the question he has. a nature of what of of being God so if. his just claim that he was God yeah so. if his nature is God I'm just asking you. you think that the god that you believe. in knows you're sinning you just do it. anyway I do but I feel like everyone's. sinning are you not a sinner yourself.

you know what the fian deal is the fan. deal I don't fan yeah yeah yeah so fa. was a doctor who made a deal with the. devil so that he could have more stuff. that he wanted it was all about him and. his ego and that type of thing uh. literally made deal would you rather me. deny God literally made a deal with a. demon well you already are that's not. true me true mean I just proclaimed his. name no just because of what I do does. not mean I deny him as my God. yeah if you believe what you're doing is. against him then in a way so the.

original question is hold on the. original question is what is a woman. she's answered it what about you oh okay. unless you wanted to add anything but. okay right now some later a really. shitty documentary by Matt. Walsh well okay but I'm asking a. question what is a woman uh it's a it's. kind of like porn when you look at it. you know what it is but it's hard to. Define so you look at a woman and you're. like looks like a woman for the most. part what is female is obviously like. somebody with like XX chromosomes and. blah blah blah blah blah okay what is a.

woman is somebody who looks and presents. as a woman and I know a lot of people. are like oh no it's biology but let's be. honest no one checked my genitals or my. chromosomes before calling me a woman on. here and I didn't check anybody else's. chromosomes or genitals before calling. them a woman so it's how they look like. like their physical how they act. performance yeah it's how they perform. basically okay. um I believe a woman is both a. biological woman that identifies as a.

woman and a transgender and or a. transgender woman that identifies as a. woman and I would like to comment on. what you said about God made men and. women I think I saw a Tik tocker you. know some quotes on Tik toks a couple. times where it said God Tre created. transgenderism the same for the same ra. reason that he created grapes but not. wine so that the same way that we. created grapes but not wine I was going. to say if we saw it on Tik Tok it's must. be true must be.

true let her finish her sentence yeah. I'm not even like laying down any facts. or any biblical information but he. created grapes but not wine he. created people that want to create. something so like we it's so that we as. humans can experience the Act of. Creation is why transgenderism exists. while and it's not a sin in you know my. opinion can I add something but would it. be a sin if you're kind of changing what. God made is it a sin to dye your hair or.

to get a haircut or in the Old. Testament you think it is would it. like if let's say like when God created. man and woman would it be against. whatever your religion or God to. basically say God made me this way and I. I'm changing what God made she's talking. nature are you are you religious by the. way I am religious you Muslim yeah she's. talking about a nature distinction just. saying if you cut your hair that's not.

changing your nature is it not you're. literally. Chang not. anom so do you guys believe do you guys. believe that um what is it getting any. type of surgery whatsoever those people. are stive surgery is not changing your. nature you are literally you're. literally increasing your breast size or. reducing it or changing your physical. appearance if we took a cat if we took a. cat and we gave a cat breast implants is. it now not a cat changing it nature no. you're not changing it nature still a. cat so you're saying cats naturally have.

breast cats do have breast one. time an important question would be say. you take a cat and then you apply enough. surgeries that it has a dogtail dog ears. and then it starts barking all the time. are you still going to call it a cat. that's the actual question that we're. dealing with some people would still. call it a cat I call a the issue is that. that the issue that we're running to is. if you define gender as essentially the. performance right if you separate gender. and sex although I would argue gender is.

obviously Downstream of sex but if you. treat them as separate words then the. question is why do we like if you're. going to say G gender and sex are the. same thing why do we have two words I. what's the purpose can I something well. let's maybe let's go around the table to. give everybody an opportunity to answer. the initial question what is a woman and. then if you want to add any additional. go ahead oh um I mean what I was going. to say is I just feel like with that. argument like obviously not every person. is is going to um what's it called agree. with certain things or understand why.

people are trans for me I feel like the. main core thing is is if we know that. their life expectancies are in they're. like 26 27 28 because of suicide for me. it's more of like whether or not you. understand it it doesn't hard to it. doesn't hard to respect somebody so hold. people emotionally. hostage what part of that is holding. some because if you say I will remove. myself from the equation if you don't do. this thing I want you're holding people. emotionally h i mean I feel like if. you're not passing and someone. accidentally calls you the wrong pronoun. like yes you're being like you shouldn't. blow up on people for things like that. but if like you if if you're.

vindictively doing it that's a different. thing but isn't an emotional hostage Jak. and just say do this thing or else I'll. hurt myself no I don't think any trans. person is saying if you did not well. then why would the argument come up then. where she say the reason we ought to do. this is because these people could hurt. themselves yeah there are absolutely. transgender people who are saying if you. don't do this I'm going to kill myself. right and that's can we. avoid but I also think I also think like. if someone you can not agree or agree.

with something but then like if someone. came up to you and like said like to you. know like respect them or whatever I. think that that should be respected but. I also think like everyone has their own. opinions and you believe in what you. believe in but then if you're like. purposely like attacking somebody for. what they believe in then I think that's. a little like okay like you shouldn't be. doing that but then at the same time. like everyone also believes in what they. believe in but. when it comes to like a woman and or. when it comes to transgendering like.

pronouns like I saw this Tik Tok where. it was like okay like if I told you oh. well I am I need to be called beautiful. and um I need to be called smart and if. you don't call me that then you're. basically like you know you're wrong. because it's like isn't it really the. same thing or if they say that they'll. hurt themselves if you don't a cup I. mean Define for me a cup or sandwich. what's a cup or a sandwich a cup what is. a what is a sandwich something woman.

makes that's a joke come on that means. Curry is also this is the chair argument. right theair yeah so you can never. Define completely what a chair is. actually that's not what I'm trying to. say at all I'm trying to say that we. tend to Define things in functional ways. that's the way that we use language. right so like when we go like into like. what's a soup is as smoothie as soup. it's in part a stupid question. because nobody cares what we is we act. like smoothies aren't really soup even. though they kind of are in almost every.

single way but they're not really like. nobody treats them like their soup which. what I don't call smoothies soup and so. this is a way where I'm breaking out to. like I wouldn't say that a trans person. is a female I wouldn't really be willing. to confer those medical terms to them. but when it comes to woman it's. necessarily evolved as a word of. functionality and so it's like it's. really weird if you have Megan Fox but. she has a dick from you be like it's. still a man it's like I don't think I. think that that's less weird so. definitions also have definite ends they. have support for what the definition is.

supposed to be so we can look at words. and then we can look at the words that. support those words what's the word that. supports the word of woman it's female. it is it's always been when is it never. when has it not been just one sec just. one sec just one sec F's sake forcing. people to participate in others mental. illness wrong and hurts everyone it is. literally an enemy action to encourage. someone to live in delusion stop the. lies get some help I mean all right. there you have it um like to go back to.

we're talking about earlier I do think. the logic of well we're all Sinners as a. reason to sin doesn't really make too. much sense because like to just to know. you're going to continue sinning when. you go and you confess or um ask for. forgiveness when you're asking for. forgiveness like is it asking for. forgiveness or is it manipulation if I. tell you I'm sorry let's say for a. relationship example I'm sorry I cheat. on you I'm not going to cheat on you. again and then Cheat 2 Days Later were. you ever truly sorry do I like the. lurgical answer like Catholicism for. example say no you're not actually sorry. yeah yeah and I feel like different. religions and different sectors of. Christianity might Define it differently.

but I feel like I grew up I was like. alter serving waited till marriage in. high school and for me the moment where. I kind of had to step away from it is if. this is true and if I believe in a. Christian God that could literally damn. me to Eternal fire for this this is the. most important thing in the world so. it's either I live by it or I don't. believe in it at all because it's kind. of odd to believe in something like that. and then cherry pick it so did you just. decide to not live by it I I mean I. could go into depth of what I believe I. don't I feel like I couldn't trust the. same uh church that was sending out.

millions of dollars of hush money. touching kids taking gospels out the. Bible most Christians don't even know. about Mary Magdalene like certain things. aren't really talked about which makes. me feel like I don't trust the church as. much as I I do believe in God but I. wouldn't say I believe in a uh this one. didn't trigger but okay a woman is a. biological female who doesn't have the. her by that I he always met Jay Butler. he always talks about hares by that. standard there isn't any women in that. room Brian said oh my God Brian said the. best on a long enough timeline all porn.

stars get herpes did I say did you say. that did I say that I might have I might. have you should yell at your viewers. who's not paying attention not every. here is porn stars mostly all porn stars. get tested and stuff like that. so most porn panels don't test for. herpes that is true then a lot of the. like they don't test for uh herpes so or. HPV the problem is herpes is also like. silent most of the time. that % of people silent.

herpes I've also heard that that study. is not being replicated well so I would. take that with like a grain of salt all. right well he's he happens to be a. urologist is her's also. environmental you get it from your. envir drinking from a that's what I'm. saying has to do very different are you. talking animals I just that's that's a. crime I'm just want to say what you're. talking about the environment what are. you you're going out in the forest what. are you doing she means like right now.

we could environment doesn't just have. to do with the forest have you been. intimate with a coyote no okay because I. don't practice maybe the that's a. reservoir for herpes is the coyote. population in California do you know. I've never even seen a coyot they've. been hanging out there's a lot of. coyotes in the sfv where a. lot Co coyote know about. coyote um coyotes. I'll tell. you going around the table what uh what.

is a woman I think we were I think you. answered correct what what about. you I don't really know how to answer. that it's okay you can it's okay uh you. believe a woman is uh someone who is. feminine and. um that doesn't mean that you know so. there's a trans woman who's like looks. like Megan Fox a woman if Megan fox has. a dick is she woman but she looks like a. woman and she's super feminine she's not.

a woman okay so you don't think women. are people well that's what I was about. to say but I don't think that's why I. don't really she does want to get she. doesn't want to get cancel you want XX. chromosomes in a vagina yes yes yes. except for hermaphrodites you're not. really sure about that well I was going. to actually ask if let's say like going. back to that um if Megan Fox had a dick. would you allow her to compete in woman. sports do you want to open the trans. Sports conversation cuz it's super. different than like a.

definitional get around the table we can. get to the the sports things we'll get. around the table just after this donated. $200 thank you man I'm sick of the. argument that because there are two. separate words they must be different. what the diff between glad happy good we. all learned a word in elementary to. describe this oh yeah synonyms. idiot okay huh that's really stupid okay. what what if definitionally definition. jesz I can't say this word def can.

anybody definitionally definition thank. you thank you English is my second. language so okay coyote is your first. right coyote is your first yes damn wait. Nala let's hear a little okay never. mind that's not exactly what I was going. for but I liked it thank you thank you. than no but I thought you were referring. to the Japanese like last time you're. like no let's hear that did you think I. spoke coyote or some. what if definitionally a cohort of. people think that or believe that the. word woman refers to a female and the.

word man refer refers to males yeah I. mean this is the issue with definition. arguments it's like the way that. societies come to definitions is super. different this is why when people like. emically it doesn't mean that nobody. cares because that's not how we. treat words unless they're like clinical. medical words and we got rid of all. these words from being clinical medical. for the most part so if society as a. group decides that a woman is a woman. with two ex chromosomes exclusive. then everyone's going to function like. that way the problem is that it's still. not very functional in a society if.

you've got Megan Fox walking around. hiding her dick super well because. you're definitely not testing for. people's vaginas and ex chromosomes when. you're just looking around this is why. gender's more of a performance and sex. is a medical it is it is actually useful. true so here's the truth the truth is is. that Society didn't have any problems. with this society's never had any. problems with this nobody was ever. confused about who was a man who was a. woman ever it never came up ever it. never came up yeah it is true I just let. you talk the whole time I didn't say. anything so look we really didn't have.

this problem it was not a problem you go. back and read books in the 20s 30s 40s. 50s they're not talking about this you. read books from the 1800s not they don't. care okay it was not a problem inside of. society to know who was a female and who. was a male never been a problem what has. happened is special interest groups have. moved in to the social sciences and have. begun to fund studies and have begun to. push an agenda in order to make this. definition now get pushed out into the. ethos and like KY sorry like not soer.

just said right what happens is in the. sociological Fields they've already. begun changing all the definitions there. trying to get it to get changed out into. the ethos into the commons but you know. what we really shouldn't have done that. and they don't have the authority to do. make that choice for other people so I. would you and I could probably circle. jerk about how sociology is all day. cuz I hold on modima donated. $200 why do trans women Mark female on.

government forms there was a turning. point recently where gender and biology. combined again stop acting like I need. to partake in and confirm people's. fetishes SMH yeah that's the other thing. is autog gyil and how many of the um you. know mtfs suffer from autophilia is. definitely a fetish and there's a really. big issue when you look at FTM as far as. like comorbidity of like kind of canary. disorders that we would call in their. early adolesence right so when you list.

criticisms I'm not so partisan that I. wouldn't just grant you all those. criticisms the issue for me when we're. talking about definitions is a it's a. boring conversation to me and B the. history that you gave isn't quite. correct for example wife men. etymologically just comes from talking. about like the other partner who wasn't. the man like it was just wife men he's. also got lots of cultures for example. that have something like the Fafa the fa. cine is a third gender that exists in a. Samoan culture it's existed for a couple. of hundred of years and I I would agree.

if you're like well that's a case. different example the problem is that. there is history and dialogue about. gender Dynamics to some degree it's just. the issue is like they didn't have the. language that we have now when they talk. about it they had the language in the. 20s the 30s the 40s the 50s to say hey. Bill Bill over there he's not just. wearing a wig right he's a Woman They. had the language to do that of course. they feel like they were also very uh. donated. $200 since condoms do not protect from. genital herpes and 60 bodies equals.

exposure to 12 infected Partners I can. promise Nala is a threat to every in. room Abdul get the Rocks we found. patient zero oh my God but my other kind. of my other thing is if you look at what. gender is supposed to represent it has. two ends of an extreme so the two ends. of the extreme have to be male and. female or gender can't actually mean. anything it can't because a word has to. refer to something outside of the word. itself it has to refer to something.

outside of the word itself or it's. regressive it's a regressive definition. so if you have male on this side and. female on this side the gender is. referring to the biology it actually has. to be referring to the biology I've. already granted you that gender is. Downstream biology but just because two. synonyms overlap it doesn't make them. the same word you're this is why the one. person that messaged him was like Joy. good BL are all the same word I'm just. like holy I'm really worried about. your vocab score we do have a whole.

bunch of synonyms but when you actually. look into what the words mean this is. why it's really frustrating when. somebody says like maybe joy and. happiness they're synonyms they're kind. of similar and they overlap a ton and. maybe the beginning and ends of Joy are. all encapsulated within happiness but. most people treat Joy like a separate. word than happiness this is how we. engage with these words okay so let's. let's just grant that this is true okay. let's say if I look at at a transwoman. and say that's a guy with a wig and you. say no it's not right super depend to me.

right how am I wrong I I guess it would. depend is the person passing let's just. say that they are but I know like it's. Megan Fox yeah let's just say that I. know why am I still wrong though to say. that why would that be wrong I would say. you're being insensitive yeah right but. it's not wrong I would disagree with you. I'd say that she's a woman but at the. end of the day I recognize that you. probably won't be defining women the way. that I am right so this conversation is. when we're talking about definitions. here right then definitionally if I say. that I'm not wrong now if I'm if I'm. moving back towards you I think that I.

have a better case to make for why you. are because I think that when we're. talking about biology right of male and. female that what I'm saying is far more. accurate than what you're saying I would. actually say the opposite I would say. something like sex is going to be deeply. less functional and less accurate. because there's as you probably know all. of those extreme outliers that don't. fall well into the sex categories this. is why sex is a bodal function gender I. think actually works really well because. it explains the function and how we. interact with each other if I see. somebody walk around with hairy legs.

clearly a dick under the dress and like. a beard growing I'm going to agree with. you being like I probably would respect. and be like I understand what they're. trying to perform towards but I would. agree with you that you might label them. a man I don't understand the the sex is. a bodal function how that even even if. that's true how would that even play in. here the reason why it would play in is. because you're saying sex is a more. accurate word and I'm saying the problem. with all of these words is that none of. them are hyper accurate when when you. talk about a hermaphrodite or people. that are born with xrse chromosomes but. their testes don't drop they're born. with vaginas they look like women in.

every single way but they're. functionally meant because we don't. interact part of the they're pretty. accurate they're pretty accurate like. for instance it's so accurate in fact. that any any farm animal that's born you. can essentially just take one Peak and. you know same thing with human children. not you have cats same thing with with. with human children after Andrew go. ahead pick if you want the problem is. that your definition is not actually. reflecting how you're using it in. reality you didn't check anybody's. genitals in here you didn't check their. chromosomes you're making assumptions on.

their appearance because we have to make. assumptions in order to use words. exactly what does that have to do with. anything just just one second then we'll. come back in that's not to reality Str. man never be attracted to a trans woman. probably not but I guess you never know. I mean why do they make so much money. and porn that's the thing no man is hard. words have to reflect reality otherwise. meaningless guys wait wait wait hold on. hold on guys just one at a time really. quick um thank you st rezy uh will I.

have a question related to that that. I'll get into in just a sec let me do. one chat before it falls off and then. I'll have you come come in pixie we had. uh big papa Karma Brian I'm back with a. link because it's a cint lie this is a. public on YouTube so it's completely. fair game so let's be men and see who's. a liar um unfortunately my friend you. sent me an a a video that's an hour and. 30 minutes long that's called occult. roots of feminism with based hom School. mom AKA Rachel Wilson um unfortunately. my dear friend I'm not going to be able. to play this hour and 30 minute long.

video but. um uh I looked at I mentioned the title. so go ahead pixie go ahead so the point. is our words have to reflect how we. actually use them in reality otherwise. they're meaningless otherwise I can call. you know you a chair or something like. that right they have to have some. reflection on our day-to-day usage so. you can say like oh no like technically. like you know appearance it doesn't. really matter but it does matter because. that is how we use the word functional. definitions is what matters a function. of how we use let so let's assume that.

we Grant this for a second let me ask. you a question is a male who identifies. himself as a woman who doesn't meet any. of the criteria for what you would. consider presentation even though. they're trying really hard is that still. a woman I would say societally they fail. to present as woman but would you still. call them one um personally I would be. respectful towards them but I would say. like hey you're not presenting why you. do that it doesn't match up with the. reality what because you can be. respectful towards someone right but.

still be like hey you know just telling. you like there is a non-consensual or. not you're not meeting the basis for a. reality requirement so what you're. showing me here essentially is that you. will use the word that doesn't meet up. with the expectation of reality uh in. order to not be in order to not be a. little bit overtly sensitive towards. that person however if I'm using the. word which is more descriptive towards. that reality what am I doing wrong I I. have a question no answer mine and then. ask no I am I'm going to answer yours do.

this basically you're going to answer. mine by asking me a question see you're. going to answer my question by asking me. a question no you'll see just be patient. um you have called me Pixie right but. that is not my governmental or my real. name right that is my streaming name yet. you still call me by that name right so. even though that name isn't what is. happening in reality you still refer me. to as such is pseudonym seems a bit. different to me than the conversation. the issue with this is that what we're. doing is we're what often happens wait. did you have a did you want to answer.

Andrew's question well yeah the point. that I was trying to get to at the basis. of this is that there are multiple. scenarios in day-to-day life where. something doesn't line up exactly with. how reality is but because we're social. creatures and we understand that there's. Nuance not everything is black and white. we give certain like leverages or lences. towards it so it's not super out there. to be like hey you know what like you. know it's okay okay to call someone. pixie even though that's not their. governmental legal name and it's okay to. say like hey you know um I'm going to.

call her Stephanie cuz she likes that. name more you know yeah until this is. applied in reality like you're talking. about so I can call you pixie for. instance but if you were to go in and. have tests done on You by the government. for instance can you identify yourself. as pixie what do you mean do do you or. can you write pixie and then your last. name or do you have to write your first. and last name is should you by the. government do you have to check if. you're male and female yeah I'm not I'm. not disagreeing with that when my. question becomes when it comes to use I. don't even understand what your point is. well because there's a difference.

between institutional uses and. interpersonal uses and political uses. this is obvious right so a big problem. that happens in all these discussions is. we talk about like macro which is like. ideology so you would say I disagree you. probably think trans ideology is super. harmful you disagree with all that I'm. assuming correct me if true this is an. ideological perspective and then you go. well Kyla you have this ideological. perspective interpersonally though would. you respect somebody who you don't think. is passing it's like yeah of course just. like when your wife asks like if. something makes her look too fat you're. like I'm going to be really cautious in.

the way that I talk about this or if. your wife ask like do you think I'm. still not your wife specifically. obviously I'm not making a personal. attack um but if like somebody's wife is. like do I still look beautiful and she's. like you know she doesn't look like she. did in her 20s you kind of lie a little. bit interpersonally you do a lot of. things that are polite but obviously at. an Institutional level these are also. different right acting like all these. things must be treated equally is a. dishonest way in the way that words are. used because words are deeply. when we get into things like legislation. how we govern the world and how people. actually ident or deal with these things.

in real time there's a huge amount of. resentment which is buil up over the. fact that we're expected to lie about. things we know aren't true one if te. women are women why do they all get. offended when being treated by men like. a women why are a large portion somehow. lesbian if I call a trans women. sweetheart they write rage fact of life. it's ma'am um which actually this brings. up a great point which is if it just. comes down to identification can't just. it can't because this would create all.

kinds of issues like for instance if. you're sleeping with someone and they. identified as the opposite sex while you. were sleeping with them and really meant. it would that make you a homosexual that. doesn't like that kind of stuff makes no. sense on its Pace the self ID claims are. absurd I'm not using self ID okay but. you kind of are we're definitely and. definitionally not and this is why so. many trans people hate just to be CLE I. am not using if it's not self ID right. then how would you know to identify them. as that you're saying in the cases in.

the cases where you can't tell you. pretty much always can tell unless. somebody is like rejecting the binary in. and of itself so a non-binary for. example I'm going to get a lot of water. I don't think most non-binary people are. trans I reject that I don't think they. are because I don't think self is valid. most non-binary people you'll go look at. them and you're. like some of them you can tell and some. of them let's be honest everyone's had. like the super like kind of like bull. lesbian come in with a short haircut. super Stout and been like is that a man. is that a trans man and it's not it's. just a woman because most the ways that.

we evaluate each other is on the. performance so if they're attempting to. pass if their performance is an attemp. of I more or less know what they're. going for interpersonally I would. respect that try to each make your final. points on this if you if you can oh hold. on Andy and my am donated. $200 fantastic debate thankfully we all. agree Allah is a woman and she's. fantastic would one of the females make. the hry lesbian a bowl of ramen and keep. it moving Thursday night football is on.

actually we we can we can linger we can. Linger on this topic a little longer but. I do want I I don't think we got to your. relationship status and you didn't. answer the what is a woman question so. very quickly what is your current. relationship status I'm single but I'm. looking you or did you answer the. relationship status thing uh um longest. relationship 3 and a half years how long. have you been single about 3 months. three 3 months. okay I was single when I came on last. time and I'm single now so I see okay. gotcha and then uh what is a woman an.

adult female I learned last adult human. female adult human I see okay um if you. guys want to continue feel free so. anyway the the ultimate Point here is. this sure if I say woman and I mean. adult female right and from the. Christian Perspective and most religious. perspectives in fact at least abrahamic. they're going to agree with this right. they're going to say Noe you're not this. thing that you're not we're not going to. call you that obviously it does US harm. if we're compelled to do that right. that's is causing us harm whether you.

like it or not so why should we a be. compelled to do that I'm not saying okay. I'm not saying that you are and B why is. it that even if we were compelled we. shouldn't resist by not doing it on. purpose at that point just to kind of. make a political statement and a social. statement of like nope we're not going. to conform to you kind of beating down. our religious values here and when it. comes to uh your purposes when you're. talking about the te question you're. still kind of making the the statement. that I'm not sure they can kind of be.

they can kind of not be so I'd like you. to clarify that for me sure so first of. all I've never argued for compelled. speech I ever think it's a violation of. um first Rights Amendments I guess in. America is what it's called I don't. believe in compelled speech I think at. the end of the day you also have. consequences for your free speech so if. you choose to call somebody who's. clearly trying to perform in every. single way as a woman a man they're. probably going to think you're an assle. and probably like 80% of the population. what if you called them male would that. be it would be really weird.

interpersonally to like go up to. somebody like hello male or like in any. way like most people would again cringe. cuz it wa they know what you're doing. they know that you're aesthetically. trying to appeal to a political movement. so you're allowed to have any political. field you're allowed to be an to. people you're allowed to politically in. um kind of rejection not use people's. pronouns I actually don't believe that. this is required at all the issue is. people are also allowed to be like. you're trying to be an that way just. attend so then so then where where do we. go then when we're inside society and.

you have a christian-owned business who. says no we're not going to give you or. make suitable accommodations for your. bathroom Arrangements whereas instead. you can use this bathroom or this. bathroom like everybody else is always. done y right I love capitalism I hope. your business suffers as a result and if. it doesn't that's great no nothing. compelled there no I'm not really big on. compelled stuff okay so yeah I think so. this is just a semantic distinction then. I would say almost wholly it is. excluding things like medical care right. this is why I'm not pro.

self-id goe I just throw something in. there if you travel to any other country. and this is like my vote for the US. doing this I think it would solve a lot. of issues but a not of people a lot of. people would agree with me go to other. countries bathrooms are Universal and. the sink is where everyone used love. European bathrooms solves all problems I. agree with you the fact that we have to. worry about men and women's bathrooms. make it Universal sink is in the in the. front where everyone well you know. something I've seen I've seen that I. object to as a man often times when. there used to be a woman's bathroom and.

a man's bathroom what they end up doing. is they'll switch the man's bathroom to. an all-gender bathroom but keep the. woman's bathroom a woman's bathroom so. y'all are encroaching on the male. bathrooms the men bathroom I'm very. upset about it you guys never have. bathroom. Lines Just to be clear any inconsistent. application of things I'll just side. with you yeah we shouldn't do those. things obviously it's basically. benevolent sexism it's kind of weird. it's like so when we get into the. medical Arena here sure let's dive into.

this okay so what so you're saying. definitely and in society you don't care. right doesn't matter if my viewpoint is. this way you're not going to try to make. anything which compels me to do anything. opposite of that you don't believe. probably I should be deplatformed for. instance about speaking out against. stuff like that probably not but if you. incite hate speech or violence against I. get it I think that's a distinction but. moving into this on the medical field. what's the what what are the things you. want to see there what are the things. you're wanting to see there so the.

things that I would like to see are for. example no self ID and a pretty rigorous. uh process by which we like determine. these things I think I haven't gotten. into any of the Neuroscience stuff uh. when it comes to definitions because. it's really important to understand how. definitions function but AI has done. like crazy stuff for leaping us forward. as far as Neuroscience I believe you're. born trans I don't believe that this is. like a choice or anything like that and. I think if you're choosing to be it. you're doing it for political reasons. popularity reasons or something probably. mental illness specifically related. right it seems to me the case okay can.

we back up just just briefly so we don't. move into too many things you say that. you think people are born trans. absolutely I'm so questioning that uh I. would say we have a really strong. literature showing like the hity of some. sort of trans issues going back hundreds. of years there's absolutely been these. things this is part of where autog. that's not good evidence for you being. born trans though uh another would. heritability right so uh I think there's. a high level of like genetic converted.

factors that are associated with being. trans there seems to be some level of. predictability with estrogen levels um. is it born as far as like epigenetic. versus just genetic it's probably more. in the epigenetic direction another. really big marker that it's probably. born in so you're talking about. environmental factors impacting this in. a great way is well no epigenetic. factors is not environmental factors no. that's not what I asked I asked if. you're talking about en mental factors. affecting this as well or if you think. it's mostly just a genetic thing I mean. anything mental health is going to be. complicated probably both of these.

things are playing in but probably when. it comes to trans more you need to have. like a genetic it's like a. prerequirement maybe is the best way to. say it PR the Gen so let me let me. clarify so I'm not talking about the. alcoholic who they have a predisposition. towards alcohol but absent the alcohol. they never become an alcoholic what I'm. asking for here is if you think that. that particular circumstance of the. movement towards the thing yeah is the. genetic disposition or if there's a. different genetic disposition where. they're actually born with this.

disposition to want to move into another. body or whatever the mental illness is. based on the earliness of where. dysphoria seems to emerge I suspect that. it's going to be like probably still. epigenetic to some degree but I'm going. to be clear the literature is still out. on this one on just to be clear every. single thing to do with the brain so. it's a really hard question to answer. you mean like the trans brain scans all. that yeah sure the trans brain scans. where it's like are they the same as. women's Brains and it's like some. research said yeah some said no right.

this is a really unsolved problem but it. does seem highly genetic starting at 3. any sort of like mental thing that. begins that early is very suspicious for. high levels of genetic involvement so. then how come when you see this when you. see this movement that in other cultures. you see it in distinctly different ways. if you're pre-programmed for instance in. the west um to be a male who's born and. wants to be a woman wants to be a female. why is it that you respond in a. distinctly different way than you would.

in a different culture in other words. why is it that if you're born Scottish. you don't want to get in a kilt right. this is the this is the question why do. you think that the Kilt is in any ways. comparable to like uh gender identity. because of presentation which is what. you said is the mark of gender and ID is. presentation so why is it that they. always want to present like a western. filled-up girl who looks like kind of a. skank on Instagram versus what a woman. would look like in Saudi Arabia forance. so do you think trans people just don't. exist outside of Western countries is.

saying that it's like an aesthetic that. they put on are do you are you telling. me that you honestly believe that. wearing a kilt is similar to becoming. TRS saying is that what I'm saying is. that if it's Aesthetics that we're. looking at and that's what you claim. gender actually is is an aesthetic. presentation towards the thing I didn't. say transgenderism ideology is that. thing I said the way that I define. gender is performance these are not the. yeah but performance is what isn't that. the aesthetic well no the performance is. in large part aesthetic but you're now. asking me about ideology we so what I'm.

so that's what this what I'm asking you. is like how do you know how do you know. that the way that these are presented. right in the west if you were put in a. different environment in a different. country would they become Fafa like the. S yeah that's a valid question but it's. not similar to a kilt and I don't think. that these things are analogous in any. way and we can't pretend like they are. the the actual thing about Fafa shows. probably the way that they um Express. societally is pretty open up to society.

but the Fafa are a third gender so that. ought to put well so I mean just that. alone just that statement that the. environment is going to greatly impact. whether or not you even present with the. opposition of gender that's not what. I've said okay well then why don't you. rephrase it okay let's go back what is. ideology well who cares go back to my. question is ideology no wait hang on. you're moving back to too far the. previous statement that you just made. was what the previous statement that I. said was that the Fafa Express socially. in a different way than you said that.

depending on where you're at in the. world right you may not even present. with this type of gender that is not. what I said it is what I said that they. present as a third gender but the. dysphoria rates are very similar when. you rate them on things like dysphoria. of body it rates very similar to Western. trans women and trans men they're ABS. cult in the one culture yeah in this one. culture but that this this back but this. moves back to the question of like how. do you know that if they're born in. that's a good question what's ideology.

okay not so aidite you're being. completely obtuse I'm not being OB you. are being OB go ahead and explain it. explain it so that you feel better ask. this just to be go ahead nice the reason. I'm asking you this is because you moved. from talking about gender and. performance which is a definitional. argument to then conflating it with an. ideological argument these are not the. same explain it so you feel better and. then we can move on I'm not going to. explain it till I feel better better I'm. going to explain it until we're on the. same page because we can't have a good. conversation if you're shifting between. the lenses analy okay so what is a.

difference between a performance and an. ideology don't ask me questions explain. it I'm asking you that question don't. ask me questions explain it I don't want. to explain it I want you don't want to. explain it you just want to ask you said. I need to explain this concept to you so. that you understand it I say explain it. you ask me questions you're smart I. think you're. smart explained it three times explain. it again you're very smart I don't think. you're participating in the conversation. I'm literally asking you to explain it. to me ideology is how something comes. about that's when you were asking me. about things like epigenetics and nature. versus nurture questions the other thing.

presentation performance is a semantic. definitional conversation we can have. both of these but when you act like. they're the same conversation it's just. m so how do they take him a donated. $200 how many genders are there do we. need list of five on our legal. forms oh five five. quadrillions got yeah okay TS did Dirty. T yeah TTS did you dirty does anybody. know what that number is by the way. anyone care to W May there could be.

Infinity gazillion there there could be. as many as you want they're socially. constructed you just make them up I. disagree with that because. iaz light years as long as you don't. believe in self ID these things are. concret and you can manage them I don't. believe in self ID I don't think there's. cat gender I don't think that there's. like things like zers I think non-. binarism is usually people between. transition of becoming trans or it's a. political statement typically I think. that for for example cat gender it's. just dumb I'm not really interested in. it at all about Dragon what is that. Dragon Kin do you have any thoughts on.

Dragon K dragons are so cool right no of. course not okay in a serious way no of. course okay okay yeah so when you're. anyway when you're moving back into. gender okay when you're talking about. this no not the definition or the. ideology yeah now we're talking about. the ideology so if we're going to move. into this how it comes to be okay would. you say that of same the same person we. took the same genetics and they were. born in like I don't know Zimbabwe right. that there's a good distinct possibility. that just due to the environment they. may never actually present in this way.

at all I think that there's a decent. chance in like Zimbabwe I think Zimbabwe. is highly conservative and maybe Islamic. I could be wrong they're probably not. going to present in anyway because. they'd probably get killed and they're. probably going to have high levels of. mental health conditions yeah but you. don't know that that would be the reason. I'm saying that if they weren't if they. weren't going to you know uh instantly. destroy them you think that they would. come out trying to present as a Western. woman or would they try to present as a. female in their culture in zwe why would. they ever come out as presenting like a. western woman well so this is the. question moving backwards I already.

asked you before which is if they're. coming out why is it that they only want. to present in the way that they see the. Western cultural women determines the. way that we express mental health all. the time for example have you ever heard. of um I forget the term of it it was a. disease that went across Japan where men. believed genuinely that their dicks were. being swallowed by their body have you. heard of this Mental Health time did you. want to come in by the way sounded like. you wanted to come in someone Google. that one I feel like it's just kind of a. odd question cuz it's like it's the same. thing with like being gay like before.

how many artists spent every day with. someone of the same gender and then goes. down in history as their best friend. obviously didn't come out as gay because. like the culture they lived and didn't. really accept it as much let's stick go. ahead yeah so if if somebody has a. mental health condition or something. that is predel them towards a direction. their society is going to have. implication in how that looks and. expresses this is why transgender people. with very similar markers to Western. transgender people are Fafa in the. Samoan culture in a Zimbabwe culture. they're probably really depressed men. and women is my guess right with high.

suicide rates at about oh sorry uh High. bad word. deletion yeah um Andrew before you. respond two more minutes on this we can. come back to it later I'd like to take a. little intermission introlude so we can. maybe ask some other questions but we. can certainly come back to it but if you. guys each want to make like a so one. minut I'll finish by saying this. schizophrenia is a very established. highly genetic mental health condition. it is epigenetic in nature it typically.

gets triggered around 21 and you must. have a genetic marker for it or you'll. never have it and you have to have like. two to three like major episodes of. depression the issue is that the way. schizoprenia presents in Western North. America isn't the same hallucinations. are often very different the way that. they manage the society is very. different the way that schizophrenia. emerges across societies is varied by. the society that they live in even. though schizophrenia itself is a. legitimate condition okay and I'll. finish with this this has not manifested.

itself in society spontaneously by any. metric at all it's been a political. activism by LGBT Q groups who are trying. to push this forward who fund the. studies into these um they fund the. sociological studies I mean almost all. of them they're funded by lgbtq groups. themselves who give these grants to. colleges they give them to schools they. give them to all sorts of different. people to do these studies and so what. we end up with is results we can't even.

trust inside of a field where the. replication is so bad that in some cases. it can only be replicated up to 29% so I. have a hard time believing that's. considering this is only something that. even in my own lifetime has come to the. Forefront that this is not agenda based. or that people actually have any. concerns whatsoever outside of this now. political phenomenon has what a woman or. man ever was I don't think that they. ever cared we never did you never did. none nobody ever did the issue is it can. always be both that's the problem it's.

not like autism spontaneously emerged in. the 40s when we made the diagnosis it. always existed we just didn't have a. categorical name for it these are not. the same things is there an agenda going. on and people really trying to push it. yes is it weird that lgbtq communities. are funding it no most alcoholism groups. fund studies for alcohol most like. depression studies are funded by like. some sort of really thing but there is a. bias that exists the literature on like. specifically transgenderism is the worst. because there's actually two biased. groups there's the like very Pro lgbtq.

that is like super sussy with their. stats and then there's the very. anti-lgbtq that is also Susy with their. stats and it is a nightmare trying to. manage it there's a couple of groups. that are in between that are doing a. fantastic job but most of their dat is. coming out in like 2024 I haven't seen. very many of those I haven't seen very. many of those anti-lgbtq groups inside. of Sociology that's for sure especially. in comparison to the other groups which. are pro lgbtq but that that aside. letting that be inside of society again. you see as our mental health.

professionals have increased inside of. society you have seen a huge amount of. mental health also increased especially. among women women enter into those. fields suddenly they're giving. descriptors for mental health crisises. for women all over the place everybody's. on some kind of anti-depressant some. type of pill they're on some kind of. something that they've been diagnosed. with so it's Poss possible that. pharmaceutical companies also take. advantage of this I would assume that. they do I would also assume that inside. of the psychological Fields with so many.

women want to get into that seems to. have there there's something that. they're drawn to that they're attracted. to but you can also see the amount of. mental illness on women in society is. through the roof so I almost wondering. if women are chasing their own tail yeah. yeah yeah sure I would ask okay we're. going to take a intermission from that. conversation we will return to it though. if you have any notes we can certainly. or any further things to add we can. certainly get back to it I have a chat. here from Anton excuse me antenna boy.

first time donating huge fan of audite. and pixie also I'm a fan of Nala but. obviously for a different reason she's. just hot we're hot too you very. hot pixie I wish you were more. aggressive and less apologetic on these. pods you go on you got beauty and brains. talk your girl get a girl girl. there you have thank you thank you. antenna boy welcome to the stream. appreciate it man I like that our. community is immedately just nice so. okay pastor's daughter um I.

had pastor's daughter you oh have. question hide. that donated. $200 there's no justification for. non-essential surgery especially one as. severe and life-changing as trans. surgery how can you promote kids doing. this really the lesbian new world that. can't be stopped if you if you guys. where in the conversation I heard. anybody talking about trans youth that's. so weird it's almost like they just.

didn't watch the show well he. actually starts with there's no. justification for non-essential surgery. well that's another issue because you're. framing The Narrative of whether or not. surgeries for Trans people's essential. or Not Sorry pix that's the point you. have you had something or well I mean is. this a response to the TCS or I we I. basically it would be a response to. what's going on right now when it comes. to like non essential surgery which we. can get into but you wanted to read some. stuff or you know it I'm just going. to say it um I I'll allow each one of.

you to make a 30 second point on that. TTS go ahead okay um I personally. believe in like individual freedom and. liberty um I think when it comes to like. surgeries like there should be leniency. if people want to get a boob job then. it who am I to say what you do with. your body some people will say oh no. this is going to self harm are we. letting people really like self harm. themselves um I think there's a lot of. data on trans people and how like yeah. like these reaffirming gender surgeries. like do help their mental health um as. long as they're in conjunction with also. having like a supportive Network in. general so yeah I think people should be.

allowed to be get trans surgeries if. they want to generally speaking anything. on that yeah so when you're talking. about the performance in society right. what about do you have any I just want. to ask you this do you have any duties. at all to society do you personally have. any of course what um I don't think I. should go and kill other people that's. obeying laws no that's a duty I have a. moral duty um to not harm other people. okay so this particular this particular.

thing that you're talking about when. you're talking about kind of the way. that Society interacts with like te-. surgery let's say right I'm trying to be. very cautious with my words here so I. don't break any to but let's just say. tea surgery you say yeah we know I think. that people should be able to do it if. they're allowed to if they Society gets. negative results most of society gets. negative results from that would you. still be for it can you point to me what. are the negative results yeah so I'm. going to point to you that most of this. Society the current society that we're. in are religious and that most of the.

globe is religious most of the globe is. religious most of the planet earth is. religious so the negative side effects. that comes to them the actual pain and. suffering that they experience from. having to be part of this delusion is. never something you people take into. account I have a very simple question if. most of the globe was racist right and. you going against this racism you. advocating for equal rights hurt their. feelings really really badly because. they're just ENT racist does that mean. that we now have a duty to also comply. in that racism no but think about what.

you're saying what you're saying here is. that the the only reason that you affirm. this is because of the consequent right. you think that the consequent is better. for society so I could make the argument. the same way that you would and say the. consequent of non-racism is better for. society you and I would agree here the. consequent we're disagreeing about. whether or not it's better for society. so your argument doesn't make any sense. do you think that it's good to have a. societ hang on before you cut in your. argument doesn't make any sense it does. make sense now how does it make sense I.

literally listed two reasons right I say. we have a moral duty to try not to harm. others right that doesn't mean that like. oh no like my feelings are hurt now. suddenly that's a equal consequence. another person um I think you could see. harm when it comes to like suicide or. um so if you're talking so again so so. again what you're saying is right do. this thing for them regardless of the. harm that it is to you because it's more. harmful to them because they're holding. you tionally hostage what okay what is. your level of harm that's my question.

okay no no but let's put this very. simple let's um use a Peter Singer. example you see a child drowning in a. pond okay you can go save that child but. as a result you're going to get your. shoes wet and that that's kind of. harmful to you they're like nice new. shoes you know you don't like the. feeling of soggy socks this doesn't even. work no no listen listen please listen. Hey listen please so here's a deal right. we can all agree that there is a level. of like hey you know what you might not.

be uncomfortable with this you know this. might like hurt you a little bit. whatever um but you should still do this. action because it's a greater moral. right saying Oh no you're going to feel. some level of harm so don't do something. is not a good argument for not helping. another person that is what the argument. is getting your shoes wet is very. different than okay can I hold on hold. on let's get these two in did you want. to go let her go for okay you then you. goad I mean it's kind of got past there. but I do think it was interesting to say. it um what's to cite as a reason for. harm is that a lot of the world is. religious when a lot of almost how many.

wars were fought for religion how much. Pains been caused because of religion. how many how much War was fought for for. atheism secularism the entire 20th. century under communism Communists. eradicated religion ruthlessly. eradicated religion was responsible for. some of the grossest amounts of the. death rate in the 20th century totally. secularist Society totally secular yeah. I mean I I think like citing religion as. the source of like violence is is kind. of low resolution because the reality is.

that it's like ideology is the source of. Wars right the reason why like oh. actually I shouldn't go into that to. bring up the conflict that you probably. don't want on your Channel right now um. the reason why like lots of people go. into war they might even claim that it's. a holy war half the time it's ideology. half the time it's like group thinking. and like outgroup think so like blaming. religion for violence is as empty to me. as blaming like atheism for like. violence like any ideology that's taken. to an extreme to justify violence is. going to lead to violence religion's one. of those obviously but so is communism. so is Nazism yeah I wouldn't dispute.

that you can have and have had religious. wars of course you have but this idea. that's inside of people's brains that uh. religion is the biggest cause of the. conflict that's going on in the world. the 20th century does not bear that out. at all that is not what the 20th century. shows do you have I was just going to. say there's a lot um in today's society. of transgender people who do get uh. surgery have come out and said that they.

really regret it and it really has. ruined their lives and there's been a. lot of um you. know of people that are you talking. about like D transitioners I mean yeah d. d transitioners I don't know they were. born that way though right and they come. out and say that you know they they that. the LGBT community or the trans. Community um do you think D transition. what percent do you think D transition. honestly I couldn't give you an exact. take a guess take a guess you say like.

four 5% right super super small it's. less than that it's less than that it's. less than 1% typically yeah but what is. the percentage of people who identify as. trans who transition at all. exactly what is the percentage of trans. who transition at all self trans quite. High actually not self I thought it was. 1% isn't it 1% it's 1% is no 1% is trans. the number of people who do end up. transitioning is significantly higher. they oh not all can afford medically.

transitioning so 1% of the population is. trans but the higher percent of the. percentage no within the 1% 1% I thought. you saying it's not even that. 1% transition 80% I have a question okay. last thing on this last thing last thing. go ahe do you think that that. um transition surgeries should be funded. by you know she's Canadian I'm Canadian.

so I'm going to have a slight I'm. definitely Pro universal healthcare um I. am for it but not as it currently exists. as far as vetting right now so I. wouldn't like put a hold on it. necessarily but there's a lot of really. good research being done in especially a. lot of European countries to ensure that. the people that are applying and getting. the surgeries actually need it because. one thing I will say that is extremely. important to site here is that a very. well-replicated finding is that when. people adults transition there is a. reduction of suicide attempts by over.

70% it is a massive drop and there. before anyone says the Pediatric studies. on that didn't replicate as far as like. conversion therapy working just remind. you use. uh or. something we we'll we're going to take. an inlude we'll we'll come back to it if. you guys want to do you guys like. puppies only trans puppies you mentioned. at the beginning cats that turn Nala you. mentioned at the beginning you describe. yourself as the aiga queen I think what.

what is that so I um I've been watching. anime for a long time now and I'm. fascinated by the the culture of Japan. and what they do with the characters and. I feel like it's just so different and. so basically the aago face to me is like. the face like you're just in so much. pleasure you're just going to. like burst your brain out like for me I. just love the P like the look I just. love it what and what is the no it's a. good thing it's more like a Christian no. it's like a Christian looking at me.

like what the he's so. disappointed can we see has anyone done. the a heo face to you uh oh wa he's a. marri whatever has your wife ever done. that I don't even know what it is it's. like your eyes just like the crossey. cross oh good. better ring into the. camera okay that's it's even better when.

you can hold it for and wait what is the. oo what it's just like an anime word. it's just like what is the difference. between the two o is like cute and like. little like it's. not it's Kaw are there different. versions are there different versions of. the AI they okay they kind of are but. like main the main thing is like just. crossing your eyes up and out kind of. thing and it's almost like rolling your. eyes in the back of your head because. it's just like you know that's and.

then what's the other version the other. I don't know I feel like so some people. like really judge me for this I really. don't give a but it's like um. you're just going insane like for me. it's like I'm so passionate about a lot. like all I can do in that moment is just. you know I'm not even being right. now and it's like you. know it's like excitement pure. excitement good times like how you. worried about s so disturbed by all of.

this I love that this is okay this is. fine how uncomfortable on a scale one to. 10 and well it's just creepy right just. like it's just creepy I don't know if. it's I don't know if it's creepy in the. moment it's not creepy okay in the. moment maybe with an intimate partner. it's not creepy but yeah I'm sure it's. not I'm sure there's a lot of men oh. there's so many and I've introduced so. many people to it they're like it's like. you don't know what to do but like. you're you're making them go insane like. that girl is going insane with what. you're doing to them that's hot it's.

like I'm this girl into Oblivion. right now like like she's losing. her sanity okay that's just so cool all. right it's good it's good uh so just. really quick on the whole pastor's. daughter thing let's go back come on. coming back ready for it. what change like was there a. precipitating moment my mom like was. there some moment where you just snapped. or oh no so honestly I was so um I felt.

so alone being a Christian I felt so. like being a pastor's daughter you're. you're looked up to by not only the. church but your family standards are so. high and it felt just like the most like. the biggest cage I've ever been in in my. life what do you mean the family. standards family standards so being. extremely modest but not like wearing. like pencil skirts stuff like that no. makeup it was it was just you know being. very modest you know um you're.

representing the church kind of thing. it's different and do you feel like do. you feel like that had um an impact on. like you joining only fans and like you. cuz I come from a middle eastern family. and like I my culture was very very you. know like against all of that and I feel. like it did have something to do like. being is it rebell so for me I was like. out of my house at like 4 a.m. after. after I was like a pastor's daughter I. went through this super rebellious stage. of like just like I I was like I.

just need to get out like and it had. nothing that had nothing to do with only. fans I probably stopped being a pastor's. daughter around like 18 I think and I. just I'm so. hypersexual that my path had I just felt. like my path had something to do with my. sexuality no matter what it was okay I. take that back I would not go be a. stripper I would never wanted I never. like thought or saw myself as that um. what would be the distinction though. there's such a big distinction one it's.

all online two they never see you in. person you know like it's all online you. get to chat with them online you send me. the same principle you're just taking. off your clothes for money right oh. absolutely I'm not is it like a safety. it is the biggest thing for me was like. you know I'm doing this from the comfort. of my own home and I actually like enjoy. this so much it gave me so much freedom. I can't even tell you like the person I. become now is so much of a stronger. person than I would have ever been so. it's all it's all for.

you yeah who else would it have been for. piggy backing off this is this is just. something that I see all the time like. well yeah but who else well every girl. that I've talked to so far here at this. podcast it's always me me me me me also. you know how to relate I don't think so. I think I think that we don't know each. other you are literally on here right. promoting your scoot your mic that's all. about I'm not trying to talk about my. dog on here no that's not what I'm.

talking about I'm I'm talking about your. choices not about this stream I'm not. talking about talking about yourself for. some big extravagant reason it's not. like I have this big dramatic story. where I was like I was trying to save. someone and I needed the money for it it. was for myself it was a huge freedom to. do whatever I wanted I now have. Financial stability as a female I don't. need a mail you know there's just so. many things I have a question about that. though so now that okay cuz I I I. understand the piece of like okay. Financial Freedom and you got to that.

place you're at that place now. why and I want to ask this question. respectfully why still do it. well why do you not think that there's. other things for you to do now but there. is I've been doing it for the last like. year and a half I picked up Japanese. weapons training martial arts boxing I. do fight scenes I do cosplay like what. is it that I don't do I snowboard I ski. I I'm like I do everything do you I'm. off for like I don't volunteer but I I'm. like more nurturing in different ways.

anyone who comes in my life is Tak pure. self-gratification. right what else is life about I feel. hangang that's the key Point that's the. key Point hang on Brian real quick. that's the key Point did you when I. asked you it's all about. self-gratification and you say what else. is life about other than. self-gratification no no no I feel like. life is about finding true peace and joy. like I feel like that's what it is then. why was your why was your first response. to say what else is life about except.

self-gratification I didn't say. self-gratification you did I think it's. truly about happiness and and happiness. well what is. happiness Japanese my B staff no I mean. for you what is happiness happiness is. isself doing thing you like right that's. what makes you happy not even things. that I like but educ violent volunteer. and you were like no I nurture people. anyone who comes around me like I said I. nurture them and I feel like I have a. duty to do that as a female to nurture.

anyone that comes in my presence anyone. who walks in my home I help people. online like if I watch people's like Tik. Tok stories I love to go gift I'm a. complete stranger but that's all for you. though right well I don't think so here. let's not linger too long on that um. okay you were. saying you you mentioned something well. pgy backing off something I think you. said um those of you those of the girls. here at the table who do only fans what. do your parents think about it do they.

support you do they not support you um. actually and why don't we start with you. and move this way go ahead no not at all. they're not do they well do they know. they don't know so they don't know I. think why Mom picked up on it and she. knows but she doesn't want to admit it. um but I think like once I go to Du buy. or something it's a deal breaker like I. am deleting my account like it's gone.

because it's just something that I don't. think will ever I think I'll be disowned. from my culture wait so but hold on uh. when are you going to Dubai uh in in a. couple months in a couple months so your. parents don't know what you have any. siblings do they know yeah my brother. knows they know is there any fear that. they might tell your. wait are your parents currently living. in the US or the UAE so my dad uh my. parents are living in the US but my. mom's in Dubai right now I see okay um.

what would I mean would your parents. just dis you said they would disown you. if they found out my mom wouldn't I. think she would understand um and and. with my dad I it doesn't really matter. what he thinks honestly like obviously I. care about what he thinks and I know. that it it will affect him and i' never. want to do that and I think that if they. can't understand me that's okay and I'm. not you know I'm an adult I oh go ahead. go ahead no no oh and did you say was it.

your family that is Muslim or is it are. you Muslim too my family is Muslim okay. I see um I am Muslim gotcha okay um is. there any like safety ramifications for. you in any way when you're talking that. cuz yeah you you said you're going to. delete your stuff but I mean the. internet's forever so well yeah it is. forever and I'm okay with that and it's. just about me like you know moving on in. a way because I don't plan to do it. forever um obviously people will find. out and obviously people have found out. and that's okay with me because in in a.

way if it was just me I would not give a. what anybody thinks like I would be. okay with not ever seeing anyone or it's. just my family like my mom honestly it's. just my mom I have a very close. relationship with my mom and I don't. ever want to hurt her reputation cuz in. our culture reputation reput. is family name is everything and. especially in the Middle East when you. go over there no one will talk to you no. one will marry you no one will you know.

be friends with you and it and honestly. I don't give a because if you can't. accept me for who I am then that's fine. but do do you think that that's a that's. a good trade it sucks do you think it's. a good trade in order for you to pursue. your only fans career to potentially. lose uh the support of your family or. connection with your family it sucks I. think it's it it's very uh because I. know what I'm doing is not particularly. you know if I could choose a different.

path for myself and you know I would and. I I plan to you know move on from it but. I don't care I love what I do at the end. of the day like I love what I do and I. would never um you could Chet it no no. no but I don't regret what I do. but I did it and I I'm planning on you. know. the only reason I did it though is so I. could pursue other things I love and in. the future and have enough money to. support myself and pursue the things I. love sure so what about you what your.

parents know do they supportive non. supportive they I try to keep it see it. for three days I got doxed and they got. they sent it to my entire extended. family go that was quick that was. quick uh wait and I had a question I. mean I and Sor do you hold on let me. just double check my notes Here cuz I. don't want to get this wrong uh you said. that in your pre-show notes here you. said that your sex life is your business. ATP what is ATP at this point oh at this.

point I see are you involved besides. only fans are you do you do escorting at. all um I do not do escorting what's that. I don't do escorting no no escorting. yeah I've done like Dom work I've done. like cut holding I've done other things. cuz for me I'm very so I know for some. girls like her and that's completely. valid it's like it is a lot of money at. a young age and you can use that as. something to trans to other things for. me I just I love sex work I love the. woman in it um I'm passionate about I. think sex work should be decriminalized. I just um I have a notch on the Belt.

mentality so for me I want to try almost. basically all types of sex work yeah and. on you describe yourself uh on your. Instagram I think wholesome type 1. diabetic top 1% Creator on only fans um. wholesome uh is I feel like that's a bit. of an oxymoron like porn star wholesome. I think that's the point that was the. point being I see okay it's a joke sure. um I think on your Twitter you describe. yourself as a financial Dominatrix.

cuckle dris and sexual healer um so yeah. I do have like alternate accounts and do. other things um I think cuz yeah like I. said not on the about mentality I think. it's fun to just try all different types. of sex work okay and you it's there's a. $25 initial fee and then the $100. unblock fee what's what's the on block. fee if I block you and you want to keep. talking to me you got to send me $100 in. my cash app with your username in my in. the note oh this is like a fom type of. thing I see okay I see um no escorting.

at all because there are like people. sending me messages like claiming I. don't know claiming you do have because. I I've well like cuing certain things. I've done in person like I've pegged men. I've done um what's it called um Co name. for for both of for both yeah like I've. had like this guy who would like to like. he want me to make my feet stink and. then watch my boyfriend me and. smell my feet. like yeah how much does that cost a.

couple thousand couple thousand how do. you how does one make their feet stinky. you just don't no socks in Old sneakers. okay it's not fun but you know uh and on. your Twitter uh we're not going to pull. anything up but you said that you you. want. cucks is that I think you made a tweet. something about you want cucks I haven't. had a man to do it with recently but my. ex-boyfriend liked to do that type of. stuff and he was a cucking himself too. yeah okay so when and a cuck is that a.

guy who just while you would have sex. with somebody else he'd be in the corner. crying type of thing well um so I don't. know how explicit I can get on here like. my ex-boyfriend likeed to like eat the. condom smell out of me type of thing. um I had two boyfriends at a point to he. liked to watch me and his homie like. that's why I say relationships are. defined by the people in them. and you got to remember just like. there's a girl doing this there are a. bunch of men paying yeah exactly you you.

you guys would be surprised you so. surprised what men like oh yeah you I. just think um stop. it go ahead Nala you know what's crazy I. know not personally but I know of a lot. of males who want to eat out a girl. who's been like comed in by another that. is such a kink and that's like so crazy. there's men who want to get fed their. ownc like there's a lot of different. things because I'm not I'm not okay I. like I'm not King shaming.

nobody I don't get it I'm sorry Andrew. I'm sorry Andrew. about there's what men will publicly. like and there what men like just. telling us how boring he is okay like. men will publicly like certain things. and like I'm okay with being boring if. the oppos girls are someone highest paid. in porn you know chicks with that's one. of the highest paid in porn um um big um. big beautiful women they're one of the. highest paid in porn like certain things. men don't publicly like to their friends. but because BBWs are the highest paid I.

said not highest paid but transs make. insane amount of money really insane. like some of the biggest on only fans. and so it's like that repression that. Kink oh my God my friends wouldn't like. that if anything it makes that fetish. stronger like with the you know pastor's. a thing or Catholic School pipeline the. repression makes things stronger oh my. friends would think I'm so gross in your. dating life you want you wanted you. prefer a boyfriend who's a cuck I think. H I didn't know I liked it until I had. it okay all right each their own you. know all right um you also said you also.

said though you're done tricking on men. 2023 uh do guys research what does it. mean to trick on a on is that so I've. had a feminine boyfriend before like I. can for me like you're theg she said is. what I've learned is I didn't mind. looking out for men to a certain extent. but so many men feel. demase them the fact that girls taking. care of them a lot of the time makes a. man feel weird but for me if a man like. loves and accepts me and understands me. if he is a cuck that's fun in certain.

things then I don't mind tricking on you. but then I've kind of learned I can't do. it because um it doesn't seem to pan out. well because at the end of the day they. feel demasculinized for the. unknowledgeable what is tricking on them. man spending money oh so you like sugar. mama type of thing or it can be fun yeah. if a guy is and I think it's attractive. if a man can still feel like a man while. doing that like that's so hot it's so. hot you're like okay Daddy like I'm. literally like cooking for you like I'm. here for you I'm also like putting a.

roof over your head and you are. literally still the man you can choke me. slap me bend me over and I'm. like that's. Daddy yeah it's fine but it's nice it's. so nice to be like spend your money on. things that you know you want but like. especially if you care about someone. you're like damn it's yours anyway S I. got to raise my hand real quick on this. one are you are you sing on the dudes. like you're spending money on the dudes. I like it yeah I like taking care of. like I feel like I'm a nurturer where's.

the fitness Nala super Chats on the. whatever podcast that's what I'm. wondering okay go ahead Alexa no I was. going to say here's the thing and like. just say just say God being the sorry. being the oldest woman at this table. which is sad or wait how are you 29 okay. second oldest woman at this table sorry. we're we're up there compared to the did. you just assume my gender. I mean my age my apolog performative I. just saw the flannel I just made. assumptions um it it's one of those. things like I I get like girls make your.

money do your thing I'm all for a woman. taking care of herself and I I support. that but at the same time like as time. goes on you don't want to be the mother. of your partner like that that's the. thing you have to know and it's like. like I love a strong man that can take. care of I can take care of myself I've. been taking care of myself since I was. 16 years old not cuz I want to just the. reality of what it is and that's fine. can you scoot. your SC all the way but it's one of. those things also I think that there's. like this very weird contradiction of.

like be a boss babe do these things but. at the same time when you do it like you. it it can demasculate men and and and in. this position it's. like there's a balance between saying. like be your own person support yourself. make as much money as you can I'm all. for that but at the same time like. don't mother your partner it's not. attractive over time and I this is the. thing is once you you might like that in. the beginning you might want to S on a. man that's your choice but as the years.

go on I'm going to tell you right now. there's a lot of strong women in my. family and they're the Breadwinners. they're the caretakers and like it's. embarrassing to say but like my cousin. and I when we were 12 years old we saw. the women in our family being everything. and we're like if this is what marriage. is we don't want this like why why would. you want to be everything like you if. you're taking care of kids then you. could just be single and take care of. yourself and like a pet you know like. you want a man to be a man there's a man. that could be taken care of and is going. to like you know talk about sitting on.

his a couch playing video games doing. nothing and there's a man who like okay. a lot of women can recognize if a man. was taken care of you you would have. room to explore other interests build. other hustles and do other things so if. the man is taking that you are the bread. winner as a reason to do more with his. time or do more with the money you you. make or help you make money or help you. grow your business that's one thing but. just sitting back and like oh she's got. it so I'm just going to but I between. that is a boy and a man all right but. it's also like yeah yeah that cool cool. okay cool um so just to finish off with. my questions for you um let's oh the.

parent one yes um you do only fans as. well do your parents know supportive not. supportive so my mom knows she I. actually just told her about the only. fans she's been known that I'm a dancer. since I started my stepdad knows I'm a. dancer but he doesn't really he he. doesn't know about the only fans just. because he has a pretty antiquated view. on you know the internet's there forever. and safety and stuff like that so he. doesn't really when you say Antiquated. view what do you mean I think it's just. um a boomer SL Gen X perspective that.

what what perspective is. that that you what is the Antiquated. perspective yeah that you shouldn't post. that stuff on the internet orative yeah. yeah I guess that would be conserv and. is that Antiquated or is that I mean I. would it's that more common. older populations of wait so do you your. parents do they know that you're they. said they know that you dance yeah so. they both know that I dance my mom knows. that I do only dance my biological dad.

does not know either that as far as. iware and is your mom is she supportive. yes she's all about me my money about. she's she's all about you making your. money uh what about your dad biological. dad or stepdad both um well my stepdad. also doesn't really care as long as I'm. safe that's like the main thing thing. for him and same thing for my mom but. you know he's also wants me to be. self-sufficient and stuff like that so. that's like really their main concern is. my self self-sufficiency couldn't you be. self-sufficient though without um it's a.

lot more difficult so I did like you. know as a young person the only options. that I have you know for a job is entry. level stuff and then also like fast food. work and stuff like that I could work my. way you know as a manager in a fast food. restaurant but that's really the highest. up position that I could get and then. Nala uh I mean I think you maybe talked. a bit so my dad both all my my entire. family knows um my mom and I don't speak. anymore she's very uh religious. conservative we've never had a good. relationship throughout my entire life.

it didn't even matter when I was a. pastor kid um my dad found out in. everything very just supportive of me he. is still a Christian he loves me me and. my dad have had a really good. relationship throughout the years I. financially support my family because. they're retired now and have like kids. kids who have kids and like my nieces. and nephew need like things sometimes so. I love to give money to my family. because you know I have it and they're. still part of my family like I care. about them.

so even if I didn't speak to them I. wouldn't care like I made the decisions. I made and I'm being very smart about it. and obviously I know that only fans is. not the end result I went to college to. be a dental hygienist and I worked in an. orthopedic office scheduling surgeries. and stuff I had big girl jobs with big. girl benefits that didn't pay pay the. bills so I'm like listen I have huge. Pursuits like snowboarding snowboarding. is expensive I want to be. tutored in Japanese that's expensive. like I wanted things that I couldn't.

achieve with a normal job and like. something that men think that I should. be doing you know so me pursuing this. only fans career gave me so much freedom. to expand as a human being and I was. like wow like this is what I want to do. and again this won't last forever just. just get a curiosity um you couldn't. have gone snowboarding and learned. Japanese without doing only fans I'm. what I was telling you is that it costs. money that I didn't have doing things.

like being a surgery scheduler working. like I like I said I went to college. like I got my little degree and. everything and that got me nowhere. especially with this economy right now. it's so bad I could not live in. California doing what I did absolutely. not it's so bad and then I was like I. have to get a second job as a female. doesn't have a boyfriend to you know I. wasn't being supported by anyone so I. was like okay you know what I think I'm. really good at a present having a. presence online and I pursued so much I.

don't just do only fans and only fans is. really kind like my content for only. fans is slowed down so that I could. pursue bigger things that led me down. different Financial routes so again this. was a starter not an Ender can I ask one. question about to all the girls that do. only fans because. Lord knows y'all make a lot of money and. I'm I'm going be honest sometimes I make. jokes at work and I'm like I work. obscene amount of hours to not make. anywhere near as much money but but.

there is a part of me that's also. wondering like you like you said you. can't do this forever no and when you go. back into let's say civilian life you're. going to look at everything and be like. I'm not going to accept any of this. because you're going to make a eighth of. what you made so it's not about that. what I'm trying to do is answer you're. going to make money no no but the point. of making point of making that much Mone. I'm not going back to normal J that's. the whole point so you're investing buy.

you're investing buying no no no no hold. on hold. on I think I mean perhaps you don't have. any history on Nala Nala let me ask you. a question um if you wanted to retire. today could you million per I could have. retired a year ago so it's I mean I I. you you're not familiar with Nala but I. think asking her that spe granted there. are women who do only fans who they will. face that challenge but I think Nala. here is an exceptional Le excep for well. it's it's just so much more about.

growing yourself as a person and not. just growing and making content and. taking pictures of yourself that doesn't. help you do anything bigger and then. when you're making this much money as. such a young person you're like wow this. is the time to be an adult you need to. set up for your future self like you. need to think of like the future Nala. and be like you know what she'd want to. be comfortable too and she would want to. continue sending her parents money I. know that for a fact cuz I don't feel. like I'm changing anytime soon you know. so that was the biggest purpose of this.

and I felt so steady in my decision. making through this and financial just. like maneuvering I'm so thankful that I. did what I did I have a quick just a. quick question if your parents if you. went to your parents and you asked them. you said you know I have a choice I can. either quit doing all of this tomorrow. right and go get a job for like a tenth. of this or I can continue to do this and. send you money which one do you think. they would ask my mom would say. absolutely quit my dad he'd be like oh.

my God no why would you ever. quit your dad would say that my dad. would say that I send money to my dad so. that he can be comfortable with like. their a pastor no he's not a pastor. anymore they stopped being a pastor when. I was like 18 okay but he was and he. retained his faith right he did he did. I'm his daughter though you know I'm not. just some stranger he's like you know. what if I want her in do that make it. worse like wouldn't that make it worse. don't you have to accept your kids for. who they are yeah what.

and Guys One mic at a time one m at a. time I'll let you come inang I'll answer. I'll answer the question had a kid and. they were doing only fans what you just. disown them because they're doing they. made a bad decision until they clean. their life up yeah you're bad parent wow. that's my. 100% what about you're a bad kid. guys guys guys please one person. speaking at a time go ahead think your. go ahead you can think your kid is bad. and disagree with their life choices. sure but as a parent you're supposed to.

be like a guiding figure and a loving. figure and part of that is not. abandoning them in their time of need. and if you want if you want to talk. about Christianity if you want to talk. about Christianity if you want to talk. about like God and Jesus and the. countless stories there are in the Bible. of like still I got to respond to this I. got to respond to this okay listen first. of all let's dive into this just a. little bit okay my daughter calls me up. and she's like hey Dad you know I'm. still going to be doing only fans but. I'm kind of thinking about not doing it. right I would say yes absolutely don't.

do it in her situation she's like no he. would totally be cool with it you're. saying you would your child you're. saying you would say gone child what was. the context the context is tell. what context was decision we asked the. the question was straightforwardly asked. um if you found out your daughter had. only fans what would you do until she. cleaned up I would not be participating. with her or allow her in my life it's. probably EAS that why is that awful. because you're not supporting your child.

yeah I'm not supporting horrible. decisions that they're making Mak face. consequences a decision doesn't make. them as a whole though yeah the thing is. you all know better you literally told. me you know for sure what you're doing. is bad and you're just going to do it. anyway and then you're like Dad support. it's crazy who said it's bad though. that's crazy even what Nala said she. said her dad doesn't support she might. not support what she does only fans. whatever but he's like you know what. you're my daughter and if that's what. you want to do with your life that.

doesn't mean I'm I I'm saying yeah go. do that but I you and I'm still. going to be in your life are you sure. that's not just cope cuz the same thing. could happen to you well that's that's. not true at all though yeah isn't it. though isn't it really cope you're just. upset because your parents might. actually do this to you they might make. you feel the consequences of this let. and then you're just an inde without. parents don't so if you don't care if. they dis you why would you say you're a. bad parent of I care I'm calling you. about out of 10 do you think your. daughter do you think your daughter. would care if you abandoned her simp not.

abandoning abandoning an ad an adult yes. you can there is no age that you canot. abandon your child stuck with your kids. when they're 60 and making bad choices. don't have to support them. know you don't have to say you don't. have to say decision they do is good you. don't have to support every decision. they do but that is very distinct than. disowning your own child and I hope we. can all agree you know what a limit. is stop being so emotional and be.

logical for. five go ahead um for me so my mom she's. extremely Catholic she GRE in the. Philippines like the only place where. divorce is illegal and her when I she. first found out obviously there was a. stagnation in relationship. donated Alexa the only same one as a. tech p. do you think big Tech sensors bricken. because he redirects real debates to get. into six way of 304 Fest fights then. complains is part of it he disagrees.

fights wait what what do you think big. Tech censors Brian because he redirects. real debates to get into 6way o 304 he's. criticizing you for stopping the debates. um to like be like anyways back to. Pastor's daughter that's what he's. saying we just needed a break that was. it we're coming back to it though well. the you know the part two is coming it. was going on a while like I said it's. we'll do a little intermission and we. we'll come back to talk about one topic. time permitted of course but and. obviously like if it was just a debate. with you and Andrew that'd be fine but I.

do want to try to re other people into. the like what if what if you committed. adultery against your wife and then your. kid found out about that and disowned. you because should my wife abandon me. should my wife abandon me when I commit. adultery and do something she doesn't. like talking about the daughter no no. answer my question hang on this is a. perfect my question my wife so is the. question with the question yeah yeah. yeah yeah I'll I'll answer so I'll. answer I'll answer then you answer so. the answer is yes I would sorry I did. say that she could go so I'm sorry but. go ahead good um so I was saying is I.

feel like so me and my mom we were. distant you know out of point when she. found out but then I feel like as a. mother like she just kind of stands one. from her for a Catholic perspective it's. not mine it's that um everyone has their. own sins she has no place to judge me. cuz she has her own things and then the. other thing is she noticed like when. we're talking about um bad life choices. and your kid coming back when their. lives cleaned up my mom realized I was. always just on a better path when I had. her love in my life like when if when I. was distant from her then I was going. further into things that she didn't want. to see me in because just having your.

parents love is just kind of motivating. having your parents acceptance any goal. you have of your kid just doing better. for themselves will be easier when they. know that their parent loves them even. if you know I don't I don't support this. I don't want to hear about this but I. still love you maybe you barely talk to. them every day but okay for me I'm. diabetic do you think my my parents. would never yeah they would never stop. giving me insulin I could have done. anything in the world they would always. make sure I have my insulin yeah like. certain things you see I'm saying I'm. not I know that's a different extreme. but it's kind of like. who it's like Doc Vin donated.

$200 if my daughter did of that means I. failed her as a father she would do have. only if I am dead or in jail your. fathers are morally weak men they are. morally weak men I guess could I ask you. who do you think is the example well I. mean you can say you but he's right. look the chatter is right can I ask you. a question hang on let me finish my. point I'm I'm going to tell you right. you do have to be a morally weak man if. they know like in your case maybe not. because your dad doesn't know okay but a.

lot of people that I've talked to here. their dads do know and they're just like. but we're adult dad like it ad able to. make our own decision my dad doesn't. like it finished but point I'm almost. done okay yeah I think that that's a. moral weakness to say I will enable you. I will enable you to do this threshold. breaking thing especially from a. Christian perspect it's insane I don't I. don't know why anybody would do it I. would say you know why because real. Christians love everyone so then all so. then why not just make everything. permissible I love the fact that you're. like I'll disown my daughter that's not.

so everything's permissible I didn't. think that there's a difference between. dele no no okay but all social behaviors. all sexual behaviors all everything. Christians must permit that who's the. example in Christianity answer the. question Chris I feel like ask him that. who in Christi given answer I'm asking. you the question is it per is all forms. of social sexual behavior something. which are supposed to be permissible to. Christians I don't think it should be. permissible I think that you should love. no matter what so then if it's not per.

if it's not permissible then I'm not. giving permission which means I'm not. endorsing it which means I'm not. allowing it which means I'm totally. against it if your kid is an adult why. do you have to allow them to do. something what do you I'm not. allowing the question I have for you. what are you talking about who in. Christianity is the example for. parenting who is it you mean in which. context which Saints are you talking. about what talking about there's Saints. which you can look to as examples in. parenting who do you look to as the. example for parenting as the example.

inside of Christianity of course look at. Jesus suck honestly Nala has a special. brand of daddy isues every girl has a. craving for M attention if she doesn't. get it from her dad she will get by. being a thought thought so here I need. to look at Jesus Christ to answer but. like I I do want to I have so many notes. I have to get through so go ahead H all. it sounded like you wanted to say. something so so I feel like a lot of. people think that because what I do I. have daddy issues or mommy issues or.

whatever the it is but it's. honestly it's a self-made choice I. didn't go to my dad and be like you know. should I do this and he just gave me. like all this advice to do it you know I. came to them told them because I wanted. to be honest with my parents they have. that reason like they have that decision. to make. with their kid if they do something like. this you know what I mean like whether. they want to be in your life or not I. think it's bad parenting if you don't. want to be in your kid's life no matter. what they do I'm not saying if they like. delete someone that's like that's a.

great I don't know I feel like the line. is just too broad here how so let me ask. you this can you make the judgment and. the value added judgment on what's bad. parenting I have children do you have. any no okay and then on top of it from. your parents perspective you turned out. to go off and do only fans and like show. your butthole online for money how's. that great parenting how could you come. to me and say what a great parent should. do is you're the perfect. example that nobody should listen to for.

Great paren Is Christ a terrible parent. because like so many of his sons and. daughters commit sin you said Jesus is. your example for parenting who did Jesus. D with this is hilar he of course he. died for. everybody oh Dy I'm sorry go ahead who. did he dine with you in in which context. like his Apostles in the gospels he. would dine with everybody dine with. Sinners he would dine with Saints be. called Godless fools and rejected. outright okay just stop just get to your. point you should know this well it's.

fine if you don't know the people he. called Godless fools was Pharisees the. leaders of the religion whereas in the. cases of women who were adulterers Tax. Collectors the ones he told to sin no. more he told them to sin no more but. still dined with them and he told them. to sin no more he should go. dising is not the same thing as saying. dising until a behavior is modified. that's behavior modification no it's not. how do you there's a million ways to not. hold on hold on hold on fin there's a.

million ways to condone an action how do. you even reconcile the prodical son when. the father as the son walks home says. you've been my son the whole time he. never removed it the son left and the. father allowed him to live out the. consequences of that but the father. didn't dis him the father send him away. and when he came back he threw him a. massive party yes. the well the parable prodical but here's. the thing when you're looking at what. happened in the results of the Prodigal. Son the father did not go where the son.

was where the son was committing all. these heinous acts stop we're not saying. you should start at only fans that's all. we're saying we're not saying Jo only. fans we're saying you're all sping. you're all sping you're all spering calm. down let me finish my point okay. dad didn't dad didn't go where he was. Dad wasn't going and uh you know trying. to pull him back he wasn't doing any of. this he was saying I don't I don't. endorse what it is that you're doing. what you're going after yes he did say.

that he told him it was a bad idea to. leave that's a very big difference. between he told him it was about now he. left anyway after breaking the fortune. and then when he came back humble when. he came back humble with his tail. between his legs crying his eyes out did. his father say you you've now returned. to me The Prodigal Son and now All is. Forgiven you have always always is the. key word here you have always been. they're still always your kid not if you. them that doesn't mean you if you that.

doesn't mean you have to enable it in. the cases like did he not go with them. to like go and it up with. and blow money on crack no he didn't but. she's not saying Hey Dad come do only. fans with me you should start my dad is. no in my life yeah but my point my point. is is this is that again when he came. back humble when he came back correct. when he came back from doing the. horrible things that he was doing then. Dad said yes welcome back in you were. always my son of course I never stopped. loving you but he was not endorsing all. the.

things me finish he was not endorsing. all the things the kid was doing he was. not going out of his way to make sure. that the kid had additional money to. continue sending where he was at he. wasn't doing any of that asking that I'm. not saying any of these things the issue. is that if Christ is the example for. parenting and he loves you every single. step of the way. dising your child is the opposite of. that thing now I am fine with parents. getting to decide if you like don't want. to like support that they tell them. explicitly like I would be fine with a. relationship like my parents are. Christian my brother's gay I'm fine with.

them regularly can Catholic Church. actually communicate people yes but the. Catholic church is in no way the same. thing as yeah so is if the Catholic. Church excommunicates somebody are you. saying that what they're doing why do. they excommunicate that's an ex. we're getting okay make make a final. point and I'm. if. you if you make an excommunication why. is it that they're not turning their. back on their children okay an. excommunication at an Apostolic level of. the Catholic church is about Godless. fools it's about proerties that is why.

the Eastern Orthodox was removed they. broke up with you because they thought. that you got I know you guys broke up. with us after but that's just not true. the reason that they were I'm not a. Catholic but. I'm Catholic I'm more Catholic than I. Eastern Orthodox 20 seconds 20 seconds. churches excommunicate is because. they're violating the nature of God. himself not because they're doing a sin. that they dislike it's extremely. different and these types of sins like. blaspheming the holy spirit is in no way.

comparable to moral sins or virtue sins. which maybe only fans as moral sins or. maybe it's a virtue sin I'm not sure. where it falls specifically but acting. like the church can excommunicate so. parents can excommunicate their children. is a bastardization of why the Catholic. Church does this in the first place so. let's look at this logically to what. saying not what the distinction which. the distinctions and the reasoning are. yeah yeah I know I'm just trying to. respond what the distinction and the. reasonings are let's look at this from a. holistic you claimed listen because. Jesus Christ said thing X it's not.

proper for you to then say nope I'll. walk away from this but it is proper for. the Catholic Church to do the same thing. under the same circumstances and your. only claim to this is to say that they. rejected that they rejected Christ so. the same thing happens exactly is not. rejecting Christ it can be rejecting. Christ Blas Blas the Holy Spirit here. thing what the what the Pharisees did. was bad. enough these are disanalogous and you're.

being dishonest no that's not they're. not disanalogous this is your logic no. this is a logic of like all of the. theolog your okay okay wait inter. interlude uh can we can we see an aigal. I guess just I love the inter let's do a. little resarch why don't you do. one. try with me wait you're going to ask the. women to do it but you're too cowardly. to do how to do it that seems a little. weird go ahead do you want do you want. to do it. oh God Lord have mercy yummy we must FOC.

we must okay all right let me get I'm. trying to get through my notes cuz I. don't want to be here uh he said I don't. want to be here no that's not what I. meant I was in Brian okay so um Nala in. your previous appearance on the show you. claimed that you had a thing for for. cheating yeah I knew that was going to. get brought up um for those who didn't. previously see that are you uh is that. still the case so I haven't dated anyone. I haven't helped anyone cheat recently.

or even in at least the last year that I. know of so H it's like I said it was a. fantasy it is a fantasy you know what I. mean like it's the compromise that you. make in that sexual act is hot to me so. I got so wait sorry you said help people. cheating okay so like if they have a. partner yes you're and I'm single like. and we have sex so you're the home. wrecker no I'm not so for me if you made.

that decision and you're in the. relationship I don't push anyone to do. anything but if you want to have sex. with me and you keep. pushing that's on you you wanted out of. that relationship before you know and. how do I know that they haven't done it. with other people wait I thought you. said you like to cheat on your your. partners I did I really did because they. hurt me you know and I was like you know. what this this is hot I'm going to. cheat on you and I'm going to get a. better no but didn't you say even in a. healthy relationship you I've never been. in a healthy relationship but other.

people honestly no if you're in a. healthy relationship you don't cheat no. but you said even if you were in. otherwise healthy relationship you would. cheat because it's like a fantasy of. yours is that correct if I was in a. healthy relationship I'd hold on. to it oh okay all right that's I feel. like so like I said when I cheat it's. because you've gone so far with. me you've pushed every button why don't. you just break up with them because I. need the satisfaction that I won.

I'm sorry I don't want to be an. but like when guys like like remember. when Chris Brown beat the out of. Brianna and I'm not saying that these. are identical behaviors I. was remember when Chris Brown was a big. meanie Bob beini towards Brianna um no. it's just that I'm trying to see how. relation the relevance here is if you. try to justify a negative behavior out. of Vengeance because of what another. person has done to you we wouldn't take. that type of argumentation for any. Behavior this is like the actual abuser.

tactic of being like I I just have to. Gaslight you because you make me because. you're so crazy right it's like no. that's not how any of this works so when. I cheat that's the end. like why don't you just cheat why don't. you just end it yeah oh because like I. said it's a fantasy it wouldn't be. cheating if we broke up it would just be. a. hookup okay all right we have I feel. it's a cal beh L totally cool very cool. yeah cool I just feel like I have the. toit things that other people don't.

would you agree maybe you know it's cool. it is immoral I don't think it's right I. just said it was a fantasy along with a. lot of other things I like all right we. have a chat here Darien Murphy Jesus. said by following him we would be we. would have be we would have be divided. do you think I came to bring peace on. Earth no I tell you but division from. now on there will be five in one family. divided against each other three against. 2 and two against three Luke 12:51 to 52. oh my gosh okay biblical.

deconstructivism is like damn near. heretical like Protestants do it all the. time and that's not how you engage with. the Bible I don't know exactly all of. Luke 12 but I'm pretty sure that this. verse has almost nothing to do with only. fans or children sitting against their. parents and I think it's specifically. about like end time prophecies and like. talking about in many ways how like the. tribal churches were super like. disintegrated and uncoordinated I could. be wrong I need to read 12 but biblical. deconstruction is just bad don't do it. nothing you're talking about like one. thing one thing I can agree with right.

is that Protestant ex aesus is usually. bad okay usually bad here about Herpes. yep it's about. Herpes a biological. sewer Factory a biological sewer at what. point does the government step and stop. the spread of this place I don't need. the government Brian n on I got you the. does the government have to do with. only. fants well they could shut that wasn't. the good nuke hold on I'll send the. better nuke one sec that's what he's. saying they could shut it down I mean.

only fans would be like the worst thing. to shut down to stop herpes because it's. like non contact sexual behavior. probably shut down like escorting and. stuff like that but also asking like her. I don't think we have uh Nala uh I. discovered something about you oh my uh. nothing bad it's nothing too crazy I. don't think there's anything that bad. about me I uh I actually you know. compared to you know you do you do the. only fans whatever okay but there's one. individual who you've been intimate with.

who publicly that I object to that I. object to uh his name is. Vitali you and let's Nick you got to. find that's a big talk oh my God he he. doesn't so that was him up that. was so long ago listen. I you had it was the worst decision of. my life oh wait you regret I hate him.

okay hate such a strong word he's. terrible he's such an obnoxious human. being I went to go make content with him. at a um we where were we we were at a. college not like of content we made like. a video for like YouTube and stuff yeah. most obnoxious man I've ever met in my. life like I'm a content creator I knew. how things were supposed to go and yes I. made an only fans video with him it was. the worst thing I've ever done in my.

life I wish I could take it back I wish. I could just you know delete him from my. whole brain um and was this before or. after his you know his incident after. way after this was like did did you know. about it though did you know or you. found out after okay so what happened. was I kind of found out after I didn't. know how severe the situation was until. after my assistant came up to me and was. like hey you should read this and I was. like are you with me I didn't. know it was like real I honestly thought.

it was kind of like a joke until then he. opened up about it and was like oh yeah. blah acted like it wasn't even a big. deal and I felt so disgusted I was like. this man is like doesn't belong here. like he needs to go back to wherever he. came from it is awful I don't think he's. a good person at all can we get a little. bit more context. background Vali did something very he. took a lot of something and then ended. up hurting and very innocent person oh.

wow a woman a woman hurt he used to he's. a prankster on YouTube I'm a terrible. person I used to do some pranks of you. know familiar familiar with him um and. uh. I honestly thought it was a joke I. thought it was a joke cuz he does all. the he does like bottle smashing on. people's heads and stuff and I was like. oh this is a this has got to be a joke. it was not a joke I was like he's. actually smash botels physically I a lot.

of YouTube like a lot of like the. YouTube pranksters I feel like that's. what's really wrong with like like. Society cuz now you're who watches those. mostly kids a lot of kids are the ones. who mostly watch like prank videos and. all that and I feel like a lot of Jake. Paul and all that it's just been like so. bad thank you okay um sorry but like. just had to say that it's gross uh but I. was I do you not like him I was I'm.

curious I don't want to get I don't want. to get into it but there's like some old. old I'm not going to get into it but um. I certainly don't like him because of. the incident that occurred with the. woman in Florida but. uh I'm appalled I hope I never see him. again okay there's a bit of tea there. all right we have modest Tama uh Brian I. Now understand why Michael NS canceled I. would have two two3 of the penals okay. that's not nice that's not nice uh why. you think MK wants to associate with uh.

well first off I I don't I don't like. this characterization of the panel here. uh but um Michael nolles did not cancel. because we've had them on the show. before we're we're on very good terms. with the daily wire and uh they had like. this last minute uh kind of almost. impromptu unannounced just dropping this. new Premiere thing and they had the. premiere in Nashville so it's a a like a. movie it's a film like is the Brett.

Cooper like Snow White movie or no it's. uh it's something uh I don't I forgot. what the title is but uh I guess that's. coming out soon or maybe it already came. out but okay also it's crazy to act like. people don't want to be on this platform. with like thousands of viewers and stuff. like Michael noas has only everything to. gain by being on this panel especially. if he can like on some like. women and all that's do all that does I. don't know that's fair but but yeah it's. good for him of course well no but I. mean he's obviously very big in his own. right so I'm not I don't have a big ego.

about it it's just things happen and. we're we're we're already in. conversations to reschedule it so he's. he's going to come back on but all right. we have uh bass here question for the N. the Nala hello the Nala uh the women. generally and the layup for Andrew why. is honor and virtue not the most. important thing about men to you I only. heard one lady talk about how character. is important how could you ever let. someone without honor and virtue have S. with you discuss please okay so for me. honor and virtue I've not been shown by.

a man I feel like men the men I've been. with don't show that at all they don't. have like a pride in who they are they. don't have a pride in what they do they. I think honor truly has to do with like. having pride in who you are as a person. that would be the opposite of virtue hm. pride pride is the pride is in like. confidence you're like. you're as a person you're just extremely. about what you do I don't know gravity.

but I feel like even so men that I've. seen and stuff or they lie they. lie and I don't feel like they ever show. their woman like how to be loyal like. set an example then you know what I mean. that's so sad I feel like that doesn't. even answer or begin to answer the. question so but you're telling me that. pride is like selfish and I'm like no. it's not well one one of one of the. seven deadly sins I think she's trying.

to the question was why the question. he's asking or he's trying to get at is. he's saying he's saying that he's saying. listen if they don't have virtues why. would you do that with them anyway and. so what you said is well none of them. have ever ever show me the virtues which. been single for two years now but that. just leads back to the question of yeah. I know that they're not showing you any. virtues so why are you doing this with. them when they don't have any virtues. but who am I doing it with I've been. single well before you well yeah before.

you were single oh because I feel like. you know you jump into relationships. because you like who they are and you. don't know them that well and you don't. know if they have honor and virtue right. away so I feel like that's kind of a. hard thing to determine what's that. which they Li they pretend to you. talking about how like oh you think. people are lying so you think that they. have virtue and honor and all these. things and it turns out that it was. wrong here we got something you care. about what virtues and honor I feel like. virtues come in different.

forms like what it kind of depends on. what kind of Virtues like are you honest. are you true to yourself are you brave. are you courageous like what kind of. Virtues are we talking about well so. let's just take a a simple one like um. let's say just Temperance temp. Temperance is a virtue it's like. somebody who's even killed for instance. would you consider that to be virtuous I. think that's extremely virtuous to be. able to contain yourself in multiple. different situations mhm mhm yeah so I. haven't seen that though I really. haven't uh so I don't know I feel like I.

try to find that in myself but I can't. dictate that to anyone yeah got it so. what the what he's asking is since. you're not finding those things those. things that you consider virtues that. you're agreeing with me are virtues in. the men why do anything with him that's. his question that's what he's not. understanding it's it's a weird question. because it it makes it seem like the way. that women think about how they're going. to have sex is they like have this check. boox and they're like watching and being. like Oh how does he act here virtues are. really hard to establish mostly.

especially right away mostly need time. and experience like how do they react. when like somebody like Cuts them off. how do they react like when we have a. disagreement about a situation so. there's like a lot of testing that has. to occur so probably what's actually. true is like men and women mostly care I. think about how you make them feel. that's broadly why people tend to get. into a relationship and I would agree. that I don't think our society is doing. a good job of teaching people how to vet. in their relationship right you can act. you can act in these things these are.

but this is like um the descriptive is. so what he's still asking though is he's. saying even if that's true if what if. what KY is saying is true and um kind of. we just go with our feelings at the time. kind of that type of thing why wouldn't. you why would you want to shoulder those. until you found somebody who is virtuous. before you decided to engage in a sexual. relationship with him that's the point. that he's trying to bring to be that's. what he's trying to say and he's trying. to say. because this what I think anyway he's.

trying to say it's because you don't. actually care about virtues that's not. what you're. after not after anyone in general so. it's like yeah but before you some. people. just grow and change like I don't know. what some people just want sexual. relationship ships which is like what. their own prerogative they're allowed to. do that um some people believe that. others are virtuous and think that. that's established and ends up that. they're deceived so there's like a whole. variety of reasons why women might have. sex with unver virtuous men that isn't.

just they don't care about have sex with. unver virtuous women all the time here. let's okay hold on uh Nick can you pull. up twitch please guys go to twitch.tv/. whatever drop us a follow drop us a. prime sub if you have one thank you guys. okay so last question for you Nala uh. you are you uh Jack de doy do Hardy I. love. you do you are you he's like has a of. management company are you working with. him or not no I'm not you've just. collaborated with him have you done have.

you done a scene with Jack yeah somewhat. it wasn't a full scene or anything but. yeah it was kind of fun God it and so it. it was definitely not a full scene I. want to bring it back to everybody's. relationship status so uh single married. married single single single single and. then Andrew's married um when you guys. what are. you I have to keep things uh vague a. little bit you know um.

damn so okay not very. virtuous we claim her proud you know oh. maybe it is virtuous because he want do. they know about each other is like my. main question all. right so I'm just kidding I'm just. kidding by the way I have no tee so okay. nuke it Brian. everybody's those of you who said you're. single what does single actually mean so. I guess my question for you uh I'm not. messing around with anyone we're going. around the table uh you're not currently.

I'm not sexually active at all right now. last time you went on a date though like. are you it's been a minute I really. wanted to just kind of dive deep into. myself you know when's the last time uh. you've hung out with a guy romantically. maybe you guys didn't hook up or. anything maybe you didn't go on an. official date but you hung out with a. guy in a romantic it's been months. months months months no one really. interests me like this is the thing I. feel like I'm just pursuing what about. Nick other thing huh my uh producer back.

there Nick what's up with Nick does he. interest you he's cute yeah he's cute oh. yeah he's tall he's a tall glass of. water you hear that you hear that Nick. he's blushing I can feel um does it does. it change anything for you that he's a. nick can I share you can share he's is a. virgin he's a virgin a no that's so. sweet actually it's so sweet every guy. wants to hear your virginity is so cute. but it is though like the fact would you. take it sorry I'm sorry sorry Nick is it.

okay if I ask that Nick it's okay okay. so sorry I'm sorry okay if he just. straight out asked me it'd be like no. but if we like went on some dates and he. went snowboarding with me yeah okay I. see okay um you're single but what does. that actually mean mean are you there is. there some guy are do you are you by I'm. by I'm is there a guy in the picture a. woman in the picture um I mean there's a. guy that I've gone on a couple dates. with I mean we'll see if it develops. further I don't want to give.

glowing BL when's the last time you saw. him um I don't want to give a timeline. cuz I'm afraid people are going to be. able yeah but um yeah it's like recently. I'll I'll like yeah okay all right uh. what about you you said you recently got. out of your situation or whatever yep um. so good for you for getting out of that. by have you had. rebounds cuz you were you oh that's. right you deserve better please please. you were on the dating app uh yeah yep.

and on your dating I think we did we. react to it last stream a little bit it. wasn't really nothing to talk about yeah. you said you're like I'm in town for a. couple days if there's any dudes blah. blah blah so have you had a. rebound no I haven't really had time for. a rebound time. um you've not met up with any guys while. so I have I've met up with some so the. the first time I was over here I met up. with one guy he was real cool but all. like it wasn't really a rebound it was. more like I I'm hanging out with people.

so that they can show me new things. around here cuz I'm not from here and um. I wasn't really looking for sex or. nothing like romantic if if anything at. at most take me out on a date show me. what food you like around here pay for. it so that I don't have to pay for while. I'm on my trip okay um nothing I'm not. really looking for nothing romantic or. sexual it's just little too much are. you're are you talking to anybody right. now or no no nobody nobody zero zero. okay oh wait really quick coming back to.

you Kyla you in your pre-show notes Here. you wrote in this space uh finding out. my husband is my first and only sex. partner is apparently crazy uh so is. that you yeah I was a virgin until I met. my husband all right there you go it's. actually not all it's like cracked up to. be I feel like people idealize that but. do they I'm so curious about that I'm so. curious about that so I grew up super. fundamental Christian I'm still. Christian I'm just not a fundamentalist. anymore um I think the way that that. sexual Purity is often attained in the. church is through a lot of like shame so.

a lot of. my like friends that got married felt. like immediately dirtied and defiled. after having sex even though they waited. until marriage like there's this really. common problem so some really. uncomfortable stats every time I say. these words men get uncomfortable I've. never heard that yeah vaginismus rates. are almost triple in religious. particularly fundamental religious uh. couples so if you don't know what. vaginismus is it's when like your sorry. your vaginal hole is really tight and. penetration is like excruciatingly.

painful to sometimes impossible um so. vaginus is is really high and orgasm. rates also in like more fundamental. relationships is significantly lower for. women as well so like this idea being a. virgin I'm I'm definitely Pro I think. sex should be treated as like a sacred. thing um I don't really agree with like. the casual sex stuff I think some people. seem to be like sociosexual and be able. to manage it I think most people are. lying to themselves if I'm being honest. but I live in a liberal Society you can. lie to yourself if you want um. and so there was like a lot of issues.

that came from me being a virgin is was. like I think I'm like deeply sexually. mature compared to where I think I would. like to be at the state my marriage like. I'm a very financially mature and stuff. like that but there's a lot of things. that I feel like there's like. nervousness and fear I remember I used. to like jerk in be fearful when men. touched me um and so I'm not saying that. sex isn't sacred but I think a lot of. men in the red pill space idealize my. circumstance with my husband and I just. really want to emphasize like it's tough. like it's really tough there was a lot.

of problems that Happ been bleeding for. like 5 days excruciating pain shame like. yeah I think we have to be cautious when. we talk about virginity as far as like. how we why would we need to be cautious. like what would be the alternative to. that except to have SE or you know what. I mean what would be the alternative Rel. to like talk about healthy relationships. and healthy sex rather than just shaming. women in the church for having any level. of sexuality do you wish you would have. had sex before your marriage that's part. but that's part of it to experim part of.

it yeah it does need to be part of yes. it does you're trying to deter the. behavior okay no no no no no no no no. hold on um just I I I really got to move. on so okay was your husband also a. virgin no. okay oh he wasn't but okay and it was a. really big issue by the way for me for. for you or okay yeah it really bothered. me at first cuz I was I was still. decently Fundy when we met you're. decently what fun sorry fundament I. thought you said funy funy yeah the.

opposite of that um be brief please go. ahead it bothered me okay um Eden you. said you're. single yeah yeah are you actually single. though uh yeah I'm pretty single there's. no guy in the picture not May a lady. friend nothing zero there was like one. guy I was like dealing with but then um. he had like a girl as his wallpaper like. class we came around so I had to block. him. and okay well I have some notes here so. you said in your pre notes to us you. said you had two boyfriends at once I.

had a cuck boyfriend who like I think. you shared this eating you out after you. got with somebody. else get the Rocks Abdul yeah get the. Rocks get the. rocks. okay well you're into that so okay. you've been in open poly Rel uh. situations um you said dating a n work. uh and how people are entitled to have. the boundary of not wanting to date a. sex worker which I think that's fair um.

how a lot of people lying about being. being able to be. monogamous um do you. think so do you think people are. incapable of being monogamous um I don't. think that no one's capable of being. monogamous but I do think like the. structure of like we're going to date. for a month and then either we're g to. be monogamous till the day we die or. like hate each other and break up kind. of thing doesn't really work for a lot. of people and it should be kind of more. normal to be able to just like hey we. deal with each other and dating doesn't. have to be the most natural instant.

conclusion love to give to a third. person or another then that's you and. your partner and if not then that's and. some people would never want like some. people think they could never be. monogamous cuz some people would be like. yeah I want to get married but I could. just never imag having sex with one. person the rest of my life some people. can imagine that and some people can't. so it's just kind of like I feel like a. personal preference thing like for me I. think because I'm just a super sexually. fluid person that. if what does it mean to be sexually flu. I just I don't know like I don't have.

lot to love to give I don't have like. one specific like this is my like my. kink like I just like trying everything. okay and so like I feel like for me like. the person for me who would be most like. me would probably be someone like we. wouldn't be constantly dealing with. other people but maybe go to a swingers. club once in a while or you know invite. someone to the relationship once in a. while like when I was in that thle it. was so natural like it wasn't something. we went out and forced it was that it. the other boyfriend so naturally played. into our situation it was like why.

wouldn't we do this I never even thought. I was someone who' like that it just. kind of came out that way sure and then. you also said every everybody is by. every girl girls effed a dude who FS. dudes oh yeah I say cuz girls will talk. about I could never get with a guy who's. a guy but you probably have and. just don't know it literally because a. lot of these men are by the same way. women are but then it's like okay I. don't know about that yeah a lot of. these men are DL and then a lot of men. and a lot of straight men think no IM. you attracted to cucks so like obviously. the guys who are cucks they're probably.

more likely to be but the thing is when. you find out one man's by you find out. the network of the man and then it. surprises you cuz when you find one. other and then you find all the other. ones it' be the most masculine and then. knowing sex workers and knowing other. most masculine men are are they're. projecting a lot of the they say DL I. think Down Low Down Low gay okay all. right. um the most I don't know about. that the hood guys or the the guys with.

a bunch of face tattoos are bending over. they're literally a lot of a lot of them. are not every single one but it happens. a lot but isn't it just the case that. that those are the circles that you move. in like and no it's also that like okay. like for me like I I'm I'm from the. woman in a lot of variety of sex work. okay and like I have one friend um like. you hear certain stories and it's just. like it's not really surprising like. these girls who like a lot of their job. is a lot of times when men have fetishes. or Kinks or sexual preferences they. can't tell their friends or girls they.

deal with they're going to tell a sex. worker whether it's a girl only fans a. stripper in a club or an esort that's. who they're going to open up to and so. being friends with lot of those girls. you hear crazy things they you know they. just want to get pegged or they want to. um they want a girl to make them suck. dick that's another thing that's common. in Fon because they don't want want to. feel like they're gay they want a girl. to make them suck dick so they can feel. like they're still they forced to almost. yeah like it's OD like it's still gay. but you know what I'm saying like. there's all these kind of interesting. weird fetishes or I feel like a lot of. the time um I feel like obviously all.

trans women experience like it's all. types and passing not passing can. experience violence but I feel like like. we're talking about Megan Fox with dick. I feel like that type of thing incites a. different level of anger in men because. they didn't know and they were initially. attracted oh you know no and then but. sometimes they're still attracted and. that's saying if if no man likes it it's. so few and far in between why do these. women make so much money because why is. why are there millions don't buy porn. men buy porn exactly same thing with.

like gay porn like the numbers aren't. matching in gay porn views the gay men. real life I don't know I don't really. care to speculate on why it is if I. don't know if it's even true but it's. not really uh something that's worth. okay Salem do you you said you consider. I I'm don't want to misquote you did you. say you consider yourself. traditional uh in what bro you got to. talk into the mic please in what way um. relationships oh. relationships can you please scoot the. mic closer to you relationships well did.

you in your pre-show notes to us did you. con say that you consider yourself. traditional yeah but now that I'm. thinking about it in what way did you. mean like traditional in relationship or. religion way I mean I think you politics. I think you wrote a note to us in your. pre-show notes and you said I I I'm not. sure if I'm right here do you consider. yourself. traditional here let me I'll pull up the. in well. uh in what way though okay cuz I don't I.

don't remember the I don't remember like. what question it was or what I said your. parents are fundamentalist Muslims oh. you you you described yourself as. liberal traditional in response to my. question of do you consider yourself do. you consider yourself liberal moderate. conservative apolitical and do you. consider yourself feminist or. traditional and you said you consider. yourself traditional okay I I guess I. would I I kind of take that back the. traditional thing you like being in a.

feminine role like no no I I guess I was. just talking about in like. cultural views that you think a men. should pay type of thing like yeah like. that exactly like that's what I meant by. traditional but honestly like my my. views on everything are just so all over. the place I honestly don't like to label. things so I I wouldn't really like say I. was traditional cuz someone someone. could take that you said you had a crazy.

sugar baby. story uh I have a lot to be honest like. there I've been a sugar baby for a. really long time but how many uh okay. I'll ask some clarifying questions uh. how many sugar daddies have you had. total you can give a. range. probably like 30 oh wow damn wow sorry. sorry how many like 30 30 total okay. yeah and uh how do you meet them also I.

also am including like pay pigs pay pigs. what it just for the people watching who. don't know what that is what's a pay Pig. a pay pig is basically someone. that. um. like a paypig is basically someone that. kind of like uh gives you like let's say. like my pay Pig he'll be like I I I. don't want you to like I don't want to. just send you the money you have to.

request it from like I want you to drain. my bank account type thing like a payb. is someone that submits to you in a in a. way so how many of the 30 plus would you. say were pay pigs half of them uh half. of them yeah okay so a pay pig is just. somebody who sends you money without you. having to do anything whereas a sugar. sugar daddy he has some expectations. maybe you have to send him photos or. talk with him yeah and most of my sugar. daddies are like just regular. relationships how how many do you. currently have uh right now well right.

now I have about. like five but one pigs or five sugar. daddies or both four pay pigs and one. sugar daddy okay I see do they know that. you have other not I don't think that. really they they they know and so okay. you have I'm curious so um when you say. that you drain their money uh what. What's the transaction that's occurring. basically they send you like 100 bucks.

no so I'll be talking to them and then. they will want me to send like you know. on cash app how you can request they. don't want to just send me an amount. they want me to like request so they can. like see me like taking it from them cuz. it's not like me taking them in person. so they want that like getting off on me. taking it cuz they get off on that I see. so okay then it's like demanding being a. brat cuz I've had one pay Pig in person. and he would like bow down and like you. know show up to my house and just like.

knock on the door put the money there. and then leave and so what's the average. is such a. plague suck great it's it's bad. um what's like the average payment that. would receive from a pay Pig I'm going. to plead the fifth on that one no it's. interesting you should share uh I mean. how okay at once or in total uh both. would be good okay so like I mean at in.

total honestly I can't even a lot of. them have like could finance my whole. life like I wouldn't have to you know do. anything do you uh like do you want to. give give try to give a range you said. you said total and then like at. individual. payments okay so like an in individual. payment sometimes they'll wire like. 10,000 sometimes they'll like it it. really depends it really depends good. for you oh my god holy an.

individual payment so I am also a. mistress like in training so like I do. what is a mistress in training uh Like. You married men no W is that what. aist. no well there's it's very different it's. like oh okay but so okay 10,000 is. 10,000 the most individual payment that. you've ever received you've received. higher than 10 what's the highest. um honestly I can't.

remember it's so like years apart six. figures ever six figures no no not at. once. 50,000 no probably like 30,000 wait do. you speak Arabic. yes the some of these larger payments do. they I ple the you're going to get her. in trouble please no do they come pafic. yeah can we play wary war no no no no. okay mind whatever happens out of the. country really she really can't I really.

can't no no no she can you're from. Canada first off you don't you don't. know about the IR I know a lot more. about geopolitics than you do so I am. being very serious for literally. like if you like need to be safe you. should definitely not yeah no I no she's. safe she's she's safe um right here okay. so right now in this country I am okay. um so uh so you answered individually. what about like uh total that somebody's. well also a lot of it comes in like.

things like they'll buy me like Chanel. bags B how much is a Chanel bag I. don't bin that was like what. how hundreds of thousands sometimes um. I'd say like a what a main Birkin like a. base base would be like 50 have two. birkens that were like two birkens. 10,000 and I have a big b I think you've. seen it that one was also a gift and it. was okay so you receive gifts that have. um a high high value sometimes like I'd.

rather receive so let's talk total. payments though why don't you give us. your top top five I don't know I don't. know I can't it's been like you can. honestly sometimes I won't even look. like I'll it just goes in my bank do you. think any let me ask you this do you. think I don't even know how much money. is in my bank account do you think any. or do you know if any given man has sent. you more than $100,000 total oh yeah oh. yeah yeah multiples multiple how how.

many of the 30 total that you've had. would you say have sent you more than. $100,000 not too many probably only like. seven do you have a name for them you. are they. yeah so wait that would that would be. that would be over. $700,000 um wow good hey good for you um. has anybody in the seven figure total. range no has anybody sent you over a. million okay um that would be crazy what.

do you call these like the the guys who. spend big money would you call them. whales is there a term for them yes. they're called whales my. whales um pay pigs whales sugar daddies. damn can I ask you a question ask do you. plan on doing the pay Pig stuff after. like once you quit Okay that's what I I. thought but legally can you do that when. you're yeah over. there all right I'm not oh my God so I'm.

not saying I'm doing this but hypothe. obiously when you're in a rich country. it's it's not even like sex it's not sex. work cuz we're not having sex right it's. a guy takes you out gives you money buys. you nice Tak you shopping life on easy. mode it's just that's how it is and. obviously how old are you you're 20 yeah. and you've made just not counting your. only fans not not counting any other. Ventures it sounds like you've made over. a million dollars from pay pigs and.

sugar. daddies yes is that would you what's the. I know uh would you say that's right huh. just kidding a lot of it I spent here. the sure well it comes quick it goes. quick yeah and. the total that you've made is over seven. figures over a million from like from. from the sugar daddies and pings at 20. years old yeah that's I mean is it any. because earlier you said the guys aren't.

financially matching you you're 20 years. old so like if you're dating a 21y old. guy there are no 21-year-old men that. that are earning yes there are there. actually know many many many men I don't. know maybe in America there's not much. but I'm like I'm not it usually takes. men a little longer to come into making. that kind of that kind of money but I. disagree you disagree one in seven. Americans are a millionaire and that's. their entire net worth with a house and.

everything like there's majority people. kind in our generation Nows easier to. get hold no no no hold on hold on what. the stats like so if you read like you. said one in seven people are. millionaires in the US but that's like. your entire network your house that's. everything take the retired most people. reti like1 million well I don't care. what 60 and 50y olds are making in the. context of this conversation she's not. romantically I assume you're not. romantically pursuing there's thousands. and millions of 20y old can we try like.

can we please try like if you're going. to make a comment like that it is. somehow tangent like it is somehow. related like it it makes sense to be. brought up okay um I'm announcing my. entrance into the pay pig market um if. anybody wants to send me some cash for. free same here sorry for the joke okay. so. um that's bro didn't Mr Beast buy like. 500,000 wells in Africa for like 500k I.

just want to say uh I actually don't. totally blame the women I blame the men. for engaging in this kind of thank you. frankly pathetic Behavior where you are. just sending these women. this they get off on the being shamed I. get it they want me to degrade of oh you. degrade them to yeah they want me to. call them disgusting they want. me to tell them I have a little this is. a mental. illness making somebody willing to.

transfer her another 100K they're like. yes sh me Daddy literally come here like. Master. IAD tend to spend tell your men get in. the chat I'll shame them men who I will. shame you guys men who like to be. degraded I think I've literally B rupt. some of and I don't even want sometimes. I'm like yo like okay let's slow down. and they're like no like take every last. dollar I yes the why if you're because. if you're that's not my. problem if I was like if I was like.

going to be me it's going to be somebody. else so you're still ethically. responsible for it who what if I'm. literally just sitting there and they're. like please take my money please as a. streamer I've had manic people try to. drop me like 100 like lots and lots of. money I've. explicitly I've explicitly told them no. because I like care enough about Society. to like not take advantage of people. when they're like in like mental health. Dire Straits like if there there's no. way there's difference between mental. illness and a fetish though okay but if. you're fetish is so bad that you were.

taking out second mortgages and. destroying your life it is now also a. mental ill some of these men lik they. want girls to make them take loans out. and stuff like that and then literally. breu their. credit there's literally pay that will. literally not take out their money. before you like they'll give you their. check and you take how many money before. they like I know guys that are into. fendom I've and I'm not saying that's. cool obviously and I literally like. there are sugar that I literally care. about so much I get.

that you're the girl selling them crack. and you like see their teeth falling out. and you're like here's some more crack I. guess if you want like it's actually I. totally see that point but also her. point was like they're going to go do it. to someone else how do you feel you're. responsible for killing the. addi I'm sorry like you know like what. am I supposed to say I'm not your. therapist I'm but have you ever pushed. them into therapy have you ever been. like like this is kind of stopped it. I've stopped it at some point like there. has been a lot of points where I'm like. yo like this is getting a little too.

much like I think but you said you still. would take it at the end of the. day money to like what you're like 20. like you know what I. mean like like like have you heard of. mullock's like game so it's this idea. that like if keep all doing bad things. to like out compete each other going to. hor because you're the person selling. the crack addict crack when their teeth. that's like someone saying okay watching. porn and if you keep putting out porn. then you're if someone has like a like a. porn addiction and you keep putting out.

porn then you're literally like selling. the crack how is that this like because. there's a difference between selling and. providing porn that is ubiquitously. available your opinion but this is my. opinion it's not my opinion I'm. outlining like a serious ethical problem. here right this is like I'm all for only. fans I don't really care like I love the. liberal society and I love that it makes. women stay safe but my biggest bone with. that's a funny joke as well uh with only. fans is like when thank you ni uh when.

women are willing to engage in actively. unhealthy Behavior it like unethical. behavior and I've talked with only fans. models who' been like absolutely when. girls are like lying actively when. they're willing to just take men for. everything you're lying but there's. women who will lie about girlfriend. experience for example and they'll keep. saying I'll meet up with you someday. which is never true find that very so. I'm glad that we agree with that most. people do but wait aren't you lying. actively no not at all they know I will.

never dude that's Slatterly a mental. illness I don't care if it's pouring. outside a 304s well would stay. dry what. that okay thank you uh St rezy um in any. case you've made over seven figures at. the age of 20 via sugar daddies and pay. pigs uh yeah but congratulations on the.

money that's but life on easy mode holy. I wish I was still making that much. from them but uh you are supposed to be. an actual fuking human and be. compassionate but instead you're going. out of your way the most toxic person. you can possibly be blank is toxic to. society may God have mercy what he's. he's kind of like backing up what I was. saying and just to be clear I don't. think all women who do fom are bad I. don't think doing paypig like. people have weird Kinks and fetishes I. don't really care my problem is when you.

know that somebody is actively doing. great harm to themselves and you. continue to enable that behavior that's. the line I think that is true I think. that is true I think if you know someone. is literally about to go broke and is. literally like giving you like literally. they're about to lose their mortgage. whatever the but 99% of the time. that is not the case but you said there. was one case there was one case was true. I said there was one case that was true. you bankrupted one man yes one guy.

knowingly wait did you knowingly did you. knowingly bankrupt him no no so. basically not knowingly so I bankrupted. him right and then after but you said. you said he he was he told you as part. of his fetish or King say was like take. all my money take all my money so did. you think he was just like no stop stop. stop chill no no no dude I calm down go. it's not that serious okay no I'm not. upset at you but she's. interrupting me while I'm trying to. arrive yeah I understand okay this what.

I'm going to say this one more time I'm. going to say this one more time okay the. one time that this happened a lot of the. pay pigs will say a lot of similar. phrases such as take all my money I want. you to you know take this money from me. please request like whatever like take. take me master whatever right so a lot. of times it it they use the same phrases. you know you don't really like you're. not. really talking about what's the limit. what what blah blah blah correct so so.

you like want to stay there comes a time. where there was this guy and he was like. please take all my money blah blah blah. and I was like you know like how much. should I request and he was like just. request a number blah blah blah okay. boom I'll request and he'll be like take. you know request again request again. blah blah blah until the next day and. then he'll be like you know I I I can't. give you anymore like I I don't have. anymore and I was like okay why did you. like you know it I didn't know if he had.

told me like you know did I don't have. that much. money what did you give it back no if if. he were like can I have my money back I. don't have any like money like literally. I'm bankrupt she also said if not me. somebody else like it's obvious that. like they're willing to and obviously. from that point forward I have not done. that anymore like I will never take that. much money there's like a limit I take. from pay pigs like I will not you know. condone there is a limit yeah what's the. limit the limit is like 5 to 10,000.

depending on who the pay pig is so. depending on but I stop the C I'm. calling okay but so yeah no but that was. and that was like in the like literally. the beginning of when I like first ever. like found out what pay pigs were and I. was clearly not making as much money and. I you. know I'm not saying it's correct yes I. did and I'm not saying you know I'm. proud of it but it happened and I'm not. going to sit here and like you know be.

like oh yeah I should have like whatever. it should have happened but it didn't. happen and I'm not about to like you. know like go back on so you knowingly. bankrupted him I didn't okay of course. you you I mean how you take it how you. he told you didn't give the money back. that's no I didn't so you knly. bankrupted the guy uh. sure I've totally even forgot what we. were going around on this we were. talking about sugar daddy sugar mommies. um do you you have any sugar.

daddies yeah I've had sugar daddies now. they're hesitant to answer these okay. have you bankrupted any of them um no. but um what was I going to say many I've. had situations where I feel like well I. would have I've had like reservations to. do certain things and then felt less bad. because of little comments that kind of. make me feel like they have certain. Kinks I have a moral judgment again like. they'll ask to see pictures of you while. you're younger or ask you questions. about when you were um we talked about. this yeah did you like certain things.

did you have this fetish since you were. a young age and certain things now I. have no remorse we talked about this the. guy that I bankrupted you know what he. was getting from me pictures of me in. high school pictures of me when I was 13. well why would you Jesus wait so not. only not only wait not only not only did. you pause can I can I finish let me I. just I I told you this was in the time. when I was literally broke okay I I.

don't care like what okay I literally. don't give a anyway I'm saying this. was at a time when I did not understand. what like how this was done I didn't. understand I was literally I just needed. the money and it just so happened to be. an easy way cuz I was literally just. sending selfies of myself and he thought. I was in high school and I made him like. a lot of the pictures were like of me. when I was like 17 18 okay um so not. only did you engage him in his.

his desire to be financially dominated. you also engaged him in his uh I'm not. going to use the. words he oh hold on it's obviously not. the p word that's always about prees I. hate when people use this word for. high school kids it's not the. same. a feile whatever whatever okay uh. here grid One Motorsports donated. $200 Lads this is why right here lying.

Twisted pathetic excuses for a human. that should be avoided at all cost the. number of red flags here can be seen. from space stay far away do not approach. okay uh there you have it grid One. Motorsports there you have it that guy. grid One Motorsports absolutely correct. how 100% correct that that that's crazy. to me wait did it make you feel less bad. knowing that he was like trying to.

solicit from a minor so you felt like. you know since he was attracted to. miners he was like going Min. weird good job pixie good job sorry. Nickelodeon many women don't find a man. attractive or interesting unless he's. already taken case in point n is. cheating then they have the nerve to ask. themselves why they can't find good men. I've never seen a man with virtue yeah I. never asked why I couldn't find a good. man and like I said I'm not even looking.

so all right we have puffy vad Vegas I. think to the 27-year-old it doesn't. matter if a guy pays 100% 50% zero of. the bills I've never known a faithful. woman and I've known thousands PS I have. a 300 plus natural born female body. count of mostly hot girls okay. congratul good Flex you're just of. good talk good talk okay um going. around the table on this so um I'm just. curious on the numbers and I'll try to.

move through it quickly how many um how. many pay pigs or sugar daddies have you. had uh maybe like five five total okay. um what's the most in any one. transaction that you've received M like. 6K 6K okay and to. Total I have no idea more more than six. figures total since I've been doing it. from all sugar daddies and uh pay pigs I. guess yeah more than six figures seven.

figures no okay life on easy mode okay. just writing that in my notes what about. you um I'm actually not super I don't. profit from my only fany well have you. had sugar daddies I have one kind of one. kind of what do you mean so like he's. also in the military so they don't. really make all that much money but like. he'll like if I tell him I'll post on my. story like who wants to pay for my. haircut and he'll just send me or this H. this particular occasion happened once.

um I posted who wants to pay for my. haircut and he sent me a hundred bucks. didn't even ask me how much it was you. know um and then he texted me one time. he was like how much does it take to get. your lashes done I said 30 bucks a week. he sent me. [Laughter]. I love you you're watching that's so. pathetic okay not for you just that's so. sad um I think we call that a simp okay. uh oh we have Derek the trader here then.

we'll get to Nala they're all simps like. are all these people simps only fans. will only get larger I work in finance. in 2022 payment to content creators was. a staggering 5.6 billion that number is. expected to rise significantly in the. next 5 years okay uh failed Society all. right what about you Nala I've never had. a sugar daddy I've always been really. scared of the I'm scared to talk to. someone in that way because I feel like. I might get a stalker I'm actually. genuinely.

scared it's the fetishes that kind of. scare me because it drives so hard and. so I'm like you know only fans is like. safe for me because it's one online and. I don't feel like they're sugar daddies. they're not giving me gifts they don't. have my phone number they can't get in. touch with me any other way besides for. only fans but like I said it just scared. me so gotcha and then going back to the. original thing that we were talking. about I think I was going around on uh. are you actually single I think I got. did I did we where and that's what led.

into the um Alexa you're you were. previously on the show and in your. pre-show notes to us that we kind of. discussed in the previous show um you. said you you have quite a few unique. dating stories you a lot two out of your. three past serious relationships came. from Tinder you also did a a challenge. where you went on 50 First Dates with 50. different men in 50 days um then you. that's how you started meeting some of. your relationships um are you still.

doing that no I'm so single I haven't. been on a date since I've become single. in the past several months really I've. NE yes I've never had a sh daddy oh okay. I would like to say like Lord knows I. hear your guys' stories I I was raised. by a single mom I had to pay for. everything growing up I worked 109 hours. during the pandemic I worked three jobs. I paid my student loans like I'm not. going to lie it's slightly infuriating. to hear how easy it is for you guys and.

I'm not even mad but like Parton me is. just like Yo dude like there's a lot of. people out there that are struggling and. they push and push and like damn you. don't have to feel bad all you have to. to do is eliminate all of your virtues. and any sense that you have of Shame and. then you I mean do the. same I have only one situation I. remember where I turned. down I said I feel like I can think of. one situation that was to um immoral for.

me and I turn down yeah okay oh you. turned it down though yeah like I feel. like I actually want to hear what was. too. imoral I can't like name names but like. it was an artist like I that's pretty. famous and I uh listened to and so I. thought it was going to be a positive. situation and very quickly into that. interaction it started going into he. started showing me videos of the girls. he he told me he would want me to take. control of his bank account when he. released his next album like I could. take all the money and take control of. everything he was calling me Daddy this. entire time but he wanted me to pimp him.

out when he told me he wanted me to pimp. him out I was kind of saying like I feel. like you're in the industry and you. would know people could give more money. he said he would rather sell himself for. cheap he was um and I there was like a. video of um the videos you were showing. me I don't feel like I feel like. everything all the kings I list are. probably like to violations like. basically like everything that's like a. different level Sports donated. $200 the owner have paid himself 1.3. million a day last year and still owns.

the billion dollar company you are all. his hookers regardless of how empowered. you feel you are not special oh wow okay. there you you know you can actually sell. like cooking shows on only fans yeah but. most of them people making money are not. let's see okay all right it's not just. that I mean isn't he your pimp no. obviously not like that that would who. are we having sex with on only plat. platforms are not pimps because like. there's a there's a very specific.

relationship obviously otherwise like. any titty streamer would then be like. pimped by twitch like no obviously not. they're not pimps we could talk about. like the ethics of only fans that's. another conversation is you ping you out. when you just to bring it back just to. bring it back to Alexa here really quick. um so you did the whole so what was the. if you can explain really quick the. whole like 50 dates and 50 days with 50. different guys and if you can tell us. like the breakdown because there were. breaks in that where you actually ended. up getting into relationships so can you. explain the whole 50 dates 50 days 50.

different guys thing yeah so I didn't. start dating until I was like 18 19 and. it's just I haven't I didn't meet. someone that I thought was virtuous of. any of my time basically and I was busy. so I said okay let's let's enter the. dating Market let's see how this goes. and I said I don't want to be so picky. cuz I know on dating apps it's so easy. to just do a quick swipe and judge. someone so fast so I said okay let's. push myself let's do and I'm an. extremist in the sense of like I was.

like well let's let's try to meet as. many people as we can and see if we. click with anyone so I was like I'm. going to go on 50 dates and 50 days with. 50 different guys so I met my first. serious relationship he was date 14 I. went on a date every single day one day. I went on two dates and I was just going. through the motions and it it was good. in the sense of like you go on a bad. date and you don't have time to think. about it cuz you're like on to the next. and then I met my first serious. relationship and we were together for. three and a half years that was my. longest relationship um you met him.

online I met him on Tinder yeah and he. was someone that I natural like just. quick swiping I probably wouldn't have. swiped on him to be completely honest. but because I had to fill the calendar I. was like he he was he had good banter he. someone looks wise good-looking guy but. just not my typical type and we we. clicked and when I met him I said I I. really like this guy see I could see. myself potentially marrying this guy and. so I canceled all the dates that I had. after him cuz I was like I really want. to see if this could go somewhere and.

then 3 and a half years later um he. ended up cheating on me and not being. the gr guy he was great in the beginning. not great in the end that's totally fine. blessing and aeson that's fine um and. then when once I broke up with him I was. like oh might as well keep it going and. then I went on nine dates and then I met. my second serious relationship and we. were together for about a year and the. joke I make is he got deported but he's. from Norway so it's. not typical. deportation um not the deportation that.

might think about yes exactly um and. then he was sent away and then you. resumed the day to day wait did you do. any did you do multiple dates a day I. did one one day I had I was invited to. two. different yeah and it was it was one of. those things like it was not was it like. exciting or did you feel bored with it. um it was more work than anything cuz. it's but again it was like I wouldn't go. on dates with people I didn't see a.

possible future with but it was also. like okay let's I have to like their. profile they have to say something nice. and like I don't I'm not a hookup girl. that's just not for some people that's. their thing that's not me and when I. went on the these dat it's like once you. it's almost the thing of like when you. meet someone you actually do click. you're like oh wait wow you're a really. great guy I really want to see where. this can go and I want to put my all my. energy into you was there one particular. date that you felt like was like good or. bad we really bad oh so many oh gosh no.

there was one one guy he he truly was a. misogynist like I hate throwing that. word around but he just kept talking. about how like women don't respect him. enough and how all of them should be. bowing to his feet and he was saying. like he was explaining to the dates he. went on earlier in the week and he's. like no one was like pretty enough but I. guess you're up to my standards he says. he guess he goes I approve of what. you're wearing oh and I was like oh I'm. glad we love that I also a guy like one. time was like who but it it why is it.

misogynistic for a man to not approve of. what a woman is wearing but women are. very critical of men's fashion like. women. constant about how men like have no. style and they don't dress well and you. guys are judging like our bodies and. like so do you guys I feel like Alexa's. been like nothing but nuanced and so I. suspect if she's willing to say like. he's misogynistic there's probably. something more than just like he. told this is a great he goes well I'm.

here most girls are here you're kind of. like. here and I was just like and there will. not be another and woman should bow at. my feet is probably pretty questionable. too. it was an interesting and the funny part. was he went in for a kiss on the first. day and I went oh. no he gr granted he sounds kind of. egotistical and a bit full of himself. but prideful uh okay so the and did you. mention so there was the second guy and. then how many dates did you did you I.

did did you finish 50 no so it was 14. then nine 12 and then and then I quit. for a while and honestly like I truly. believe like I I think singleness is. good for both men and women and and. getting to know yourself and do doing. that and focus on focusing on who you. are and growing into being the partner. that you want to be is a big thing. that's it honestly that's literally it. like how am I supposed to explain myself. to you if I don't know myself everyone.

has for. Reas I think the biggest issue is a lot. of people go into relationships. expecting that person to fix them or to. fulfill them and you have to be or keep. them busy feel like people yeah like I'm. bored you're lonely or bored yeah like I. do so many things alone like oh yeah I. travel alone all the time all the time. so to address your whole 50 dates 50 men. and we kind of we won't Linger on it too. long because we kind of talked about. last show I think you know my thoughts. on it if I were if I were to go on a.

date with a girl and she told she were. to disclose to me that she was doing. this and that she had seven dates. planned ahead of me uh I would end the. date right there. and be like enjoy the rest of your dates. because. that's right but she did say she did say. that when she found that guy she was. like okay I canceled the rest of the. dates yeah right but how do you feel. about that look it's great that she it. sounds like it at the end of the day it. worked for her granted the three men she.

did find it didn't end up working but I. would say that there there is a decent. cohort of men when if if they find out. that you have a date planned for after. them or you have a date you have seven. dates lined up that's immediately like. I'm thinking yeah goodbye can I ask you. a question sure um do you feel the same. like Andrew Tate gives us advice as like. dating Strat for men to like. intentionally try to line up a couple of.

girls typically on the same night he. like cuz he's like all about maximum. Efficiency do you feel do you have like. the same feeling of like that's really. not okay like if you're dating for. intention why are you like lining up. people it's not so much whether it's. okay or not it's more so um if your name. was Brianna would that be like a big no. for you if you went on a date with. Andrew and he had like somebody booked. after you it's not so much whether it's. okay or not I mean if some guys might go. on a date with her and not they might be. dating going on multiple dates.

themselves they might not object to it. but I. mean in your specific in your specific. example I think if if women would object. to dating a man who has date right after. them or lined up dates I have no issue. with women having the standard of if. you're seeing that many men then I. wouldn't want to pursue I wouldn't want. to pursue you it's not worth my time you. seem like you're just kind of playing. the field whatever it is um but isn't. there kind of a difference though so in. the the case of a man if he's going out.

on 50 different dates with 50 different. women that actually seems like it might. be a pretty good strategy to try to find. a woman there's women the standard is. upheld differently. maybe it should be because you kind of. think well maybe she's easier maybe. she's you know kind of this type of. thing whereas when it comes to men I. don't think that that even gives that. appearance necessarily because men. aren't the well men aren't The. Gatekeepers of sex women are I mean I. certain men get like I'm sure we've all.

cuz like guys talk about how like men. have to earn to be able to have sex but. then it's like every girl has a story or. has friends with a story of dating a. broke loser so it's kind of like if a. man has a certain amount of he could be. the gatekeeper of sex. there's sometimes they really they. really can't be so most most single men. if it's like um available to them yeah. will take it that's what I said I. there's this thing where I heard and it. was a woman will who she wants and.

a man will who he can sure the. issue is like we keep talking about. women sleeping with unver virtuous men. and so it's like I don't care if you're. a guy who can get on one date or 50. wouldn't a virtuous man if we're like. caring about this even if he has the. capacity to get 50 dates wouldn't he. still elect to just go for one because. good men should also be vetting the. women I'm not sure about maybe in the. same day but what's the lack of virtue. here if they're just going on have. sexual discipline would agree but I.

would say it's the same for the woman I. don't think it's obvious to me. especially if she's not sleeping with. them right she just going on a first I. don't know how that's unless she's like. only going on dates to get like free. food or something like that which I. think some girl do also clar I did not. get at least half of these dates I paid. for one guy made me pay for half of his. meal and I didn't even eat I was so mad. I mean he went dut now had to pay for. his meal the issue is like what what's. unethical here isn't the women going on. multiple dates is her like um doing. sleazy around it you know um trying.

to get free food from him so it's it's a. lie right she's lying to him she's. saying I'm interested in going on a date. she's actually just trying to like. basically get some of his money and get. a free meal which is bad right lying is. bad I would assume I don't think either. either one is like unethical but I could. understand the discomfort with it. personally cuz it's like oh if I'm going. on a date I just want to like enjoy my. time with that person and I feel like if. the person's telling me like I have. seven or nine dates lined up now that. puts a weird pressure on me that makes. me just want to retract and be like you. know what like have fun on your SW yeah.

but mention this yeah a lot of pressure. if the woman goes on 50 dates though and. she can probably stop and say okay I'd. like to continue to date you and whoever. that guy is probably agree to do that. that's not going to necessarily be the. same way the other direction that's the. problem I agree but that's because I. think men and women actually vet. differently so it's kind of like have. you ever heard this saying it's uh easy. to get a guy to agree to be your. boyfriend and impossible to get him to. agree to be your husband I think never. heard that I agree though there's always. this Trope of like men will date you but.

they won't marry you right and I think. there's complicating factors of why men. won't marry you but I think a lot of men. will kind of take what they can get. because in large part they vet the woman. in the relationship itself I think a lot. more men will walk away from their. girlfriend than they will from like a. random date because men do have to like. throw their net really wide but women. have to vet in a different way women. have to vet by like having a really. narrow uh net it's in the case of Alexa. she's going on 50 dates especially in. the case you're not sleeping with them. you're not like kissing a lot of them in. this case she's just maximizing vetting.

people cuz vetting people over go. horrible dating apps is the worst. experience ever so it's just like. different strategies in vetting I don't. think one's inherently more like. pernicious than the other unless they're. doing pernicious things on top of it if. anything it's worse than the man does it. if we're talking about sleeping with all. of them because men tend to lack sexual. discipline in a way more likely to do it. and that's another thing too I feel like. we act like well men are just going to. take what they get so that sexual. discipline like that's a virtue for a. Man Too to be able to you know hold. himself to a standard and not sleep. listen it's virtuous for men to hold.

themselves to virtuous standards and. that includes you know backing away from. sexual intercourse with random women and. doing you know that type of thing I. agree that that's true I'm just saying. that women in that situ situation they. have the control apparatus okay they. always have the control apparatus except. in maybe like super exceptional cases. where the guy is a fing millionaire. rockar or something like this ESS women. are going to be the determin Andrew. happy St Andrew's day you're invited to.

join the Council of Andrews check out. Andrews only.com. ladies do you agree that Andrew is the. best name we have a scholarship for. Andrews and. dreas okay no Andrew is like the most. common name I lost my virginity to an. Andrew oh my. wow wow is Andrew's only like only I. have I have a question for for you here. to um you were on the show previously I. should have brought this up honestly.

during the introductions um our our big. disagreement for like 50 minutes on the. show M was uh and that we so I asked you. generally speaking are men more. physically strong than women and there. was a long back and forth I've wanted to. just ask the question once more are men. stronger than women I've been doing a. lot of thinking about this about the. conversation what I would say if it came. up again and I want to say how are we.

quantifying strength cuz we can't. there's a variety hold on physically. stronger that's it explosive well how do. you quantify explosive power grip. strength is like one of the best ways to. quantify brought up the grip strength. study and she did not what did you say I. think you said well grip strength is. only one metric of strength strength is. like one of the most important measures. of strength and it correlates because. like there's this weird thing where. basically this is why powerlifters will. like get like butt plugs and like before. I have you get I'd like you to at least. State your position before people.

respond to you so and I and I I ConEd. last time as well um you didn't really. but so what you said you've done. research and you haven't found what. I've done sorry well we kind of. interrupted you but you were making a. point of you you were thinking about it. doing some research and like what are. you me I wasn't really I haven't done uh. research I've just been thinking about. the responses having conversations with. people so like one thought that I had.

that I've been having is you know how. how can we quantify strength and you. know and what situations cuz I remember. you brought up the or somebody had. brought up the situation with the. roommates and defending who would I want. to defend me I would want the strongest. person to defend me yeah well I have a. way that you could maybe cuz I was. thinking about this too here's maybe a. good way you can quantify it when you're. walking around in your daily life who do. you see lift up more heavy stuff men or. women.

usually who's lifting up the heavier. stuff do include heavy people yeah I'm a. dancer so I see you know women includes. everything everything that could ever be. in existence who's picking up the. heavier stuff. usually who's carrying the couches who's. loading the trucks who's un you know. who's doing all that stuff that you see. have have you ever had any. movers no um actually the my response to. that is both because my my stepdad will. usually be one of the ones moving stuff. and then he will recruit my younger.

sister who is super heavy in the gym and. all that over another your stepdad. stronger than your sister I would I. don't know they're about equal she. probably works out more than him but. he's a police officer so that's also the. argument though is she has to work out. so much hard before hold on no no no but. but I I want you to F because we've kind. of interrupted you a little bit so you. said that you've been having. conversations with people and what have. you arri have you arrived at anything.

what do you have any further thoughts. how do you. quantify strength continue um so I think. there's a lot of different ways that we. can quantify strength and there's no pH. strength physical strength yes um and I. don't. think there's like you were saying it's. one of grip strength is one of the best. ways to be able to tell you know how. overall strong someone might be and I. think that's a good point and I think. that's worth considering but I don't. think it's like the one all be all cuz.

what would that be I don't know so. they're or unless somebody can tell me. CU like yeah so so do you when you look. at men and women in society do you see. that men are bigger than women taller. bigger yes the average height of a. American man is 5'8 the that means that. they got a bigger. skeleton like denser bones no just like. a bigger muscular SK going to develop. different yes necessarily they have a.

bigger skeleton and a bigger skeleton. can do what if they have a bigger. skeleton you can do what with it I guess. hold more things I don't know harness. more leverage okay okay that makes sense. and you can also have larger amounts of. body mass around a larger skeleton right. so the thing the thing is is if the. capacity is there for the thing that's. bigger versus the thing that's not as. big which one would you judge as being. generally stronger than the. other like if you saw a kitty cat versus.

a lion which thing would you think was. Stronger the lion. why hold on cuz it's cuz the lion has. it's bigger Lots bigger right although. to be fair really big powerlifters. actually carry less weight per poundage. for their own body because leverage does. create like fulcrum points that are bad. which is why women in powerlifting are. kind of insane they don't lift the. heaviest weight but they lift pound forp.

pound especially in legs they're. starting to like come close to men I I. feel like you just went over with a big. bag of dirt and poured it right into the. water and now there's nothing but mud. walk on I'm going to stir the pot. obviously men are on average Stronger by. like obvious I just I like the kitty cat. and the lion and you really just kind. wreck that for but but before before we. interrupt her I'd like to give her an. opportunity to actually like finish your. full full thought go ahead Mr. interruptor over here just go ahead just.

go ahead so bad okay got to get myself. back on track okay what was the final. point that I so you were you said you. were Consulting with people with various. expert S I assume and my mommy your mom. but you were having conversations so. what with. scientists and and it sounded like you. rejected we showed you that grip. strength study you rejected that because. while you might acknowledge that it's a. factor in strength it might not be the.

ultimate test or indicator that would. determine who. might uh comparatively who might be. stronger men or women so um what. else um I think it ALS also depends on. like how much protectiveness somebody. feels over the person that they might be. defending or themselves how much. adrenaline I guess is pumping maybe not. like literally how much adrenaline but. like how crazy they are maybe in in the. adrenaline example wouldn't you have to. compare uh an adrenalized man to an.

adrenalized woman so if we just compared. both of them in an adrenalized state in. an adrenalized state who's stronger men. or women so it would have it would have. to consider. the. adrenaline and I feel like more I'm. almost curious if I'd be curious to see. studies if men produce more adrenaline I. don't know but I'd be curious if men. produce more adrenaline in sort of. flight tolight situations but that's of. course they do I don't maybe if there's. a mom wouldn't she produce more.

adrenaline if she felt like her her kid. was in danger. exactly but so so go ahead go ahead. continue I'm now I'm interrupting I AP. go ahead the fact that you brought up. the mom situation wanted like was. another point that I was considering I. know that my mom would be able to defend. me so much better than my bi either my. biological okay but the sure but the. question the original question that this. kind of stemmed from was are men. stronger than women.

physically just on average that's it. just on average and if we're. taking I think it would just be so hard. to find an average I think is what the. conclusion that I might have somewhat. come to last time but like I wanted to. verbalize it better if I got the. opportunity wanted to verbalize it. better if I see the. numbers and we're taking each individual. man and each individual woman and. there's a list of the ones that are. strong I guess.

like and like I said it's so hard to. quantify these things so like who is. stronger men or women does anybody. understand what I'm saying no I have no. idea I mean literally have no clue. obviously men can be like domestic. violence victims for example I feel like. usually like a big reason in. why fine why women like tend to be like. you know more not trying to say that it. doesn't happen to men because I'm sure. there you know men getting roughed. around by it's cuz like you know like. usually it's harder for us to fight back.

because we're like weaker that's not. really related to the conversation. saying the sense of I feel like when. we're talking about saying that women. can beat up men yes they can yeah but no. that's not what I was saying I was. saying the reason that Maj like majority. of the case I would say are usually the. woman is the victim is because if if the. strength is more half half wouldn't we. fight back in those situations more. often well that it's a and our. adrenaline's up too and our adrenaline. up yeah exactly and usually when a girl. is a victim of TV they end up beat up. not fighting back and having you know. three rounds and just like doing MMA.

fighting like usually the woman is the. one who you. know okay um do you want to continue. with your point I think just just the. main point that I want to that is. important for me to say is the ability. to quantify these things the strength. and then the comparison of the strengths. between an entirety you know 8 billion. people we have 4 billion men. approximately and 4 billion women. approximately I think it would be crazy. to even.

try beaten cheeks donated. $200 Andrew please cook them into going. back to the easiest class in elementary. school about physical strength between. boys and girls P I'm getting Dumber. listening to the libs than watching. monkeys work okay first of all this is. not a Libs talking going okay I've been. very explicitly clear as a progressive. lib that I would disagree with this. obviously men are normatively more. strong just like obviously obviously. obviously obviously obviously I think. that's only not true in hyenas but it's.

CU female hyenas have a shitload of. testosterone which is like there is some. set of feminist though I and I'm I'm not. trying to like straw man feminist or. whatever but there is some like deranged. feminist that like I don't know if. you're familiar with. this Anita sarkeesian this is like way. back she made a whole yeah whole tropes. versus video games or something uh she. claimed that it's a Trope that men are. physically stronger I I well I don't. this was a decade ago so I don't. remember exactly what she said but she.

was essentially saying that me that that. there actually is no physical strength a. lot of like cringy third wave feminists. were just obsessed with women being men. um but the fourth most fourth W. feminists for example would fully reject. this but continue all right that it. actually makes sense because it it would. go against the oppressive narrative if. they said suddenly that women were. stronger than men they couldn't say that. men oppressed them so that kind of. counter countered to feminism so I I let.

me just ask the question are men. physically stronger than. women you have went over this I have a. hard. time is there be is trying to be good. faith here like is there just some. Metric of strength that you think women. are better on or something and that's. why you're having a hard time say or. like what metric is giving you hesitancy. is there a sport that you think like. women would is it just the gym is there.

pain tolerance pain tolerance is a good. point sport sport would go with that my. I'm just saying this SL met so like. super endurance running for example. women are to compete at equal levels and. slightly more specifically because of. like body fat composition and like water. amounts that like and pain tolerance. that like women are starting to slightly. out compete men on like super marathons. Nick can you pull up boys vers men or. sorry Boys versus women.com we already. we already looked at it we'll look at it. for 10 seconds and then uh High School. boys high school boys if you put them in.

the US if you put them. against gold uh medalists in the. Olympics and this is not just in the US. this is AC like like the highest level. of achievement in women's sports so hold. on let me read this Nick scroll up uh. male high school athletes so I'm. assuming this is us male high school. athletes versus female Olympians so this. isn't just us female Olympians this is. all Olympians from the entire entire. world every single country if boys high.

school boys win against the fastest. women is it fair for males well that's. okay that's another conversation uh so. if you allowed High School boys to. compete against female. Olympians the boys would steal all those. medals from the women so just scroll. down just a bit we won't see the whole. thing but um track and field 2016 High. School boys versus 2016 Olympic women's. finalist scroll down to bit neck so this. is for the 100 meter no no no up up up. up up and it's going to Resort so those.

are high school boys who would. outperform the Olympian women scroll. down just a tad we'll just look at one. more and we won't linger um this is 400. m 800 M and it's going to Resort. here okay so um High School boys who. certainly are I assume are not even at. their athletic Peak are out competing. female Olympians just just us High. School boys are out competing all the.

women in the world at who are at the. peak of within their gender okay must be. steroids so how can you explain that. high school boys are out competing. women if not. for having more strength for. example or fast twitch I mean these are. races so that's probably more related to. like your fast twitch muscle fibers and. stuff explosive power yeah okay but you. know what related to that Nick can you. pull up photos of male sprinters versus.

female sprinters just to see what their. bodies look like I should look at the. there's a video of a female Sprinter. like P alongside a male Sprinter video. it's really it's probably the I used to. actually agree with you and then my. husband when we were just starting a. date just showed me like Serena Williams. being like I would never and then the. like uh US soccer team of women. Olympians losing to like the U6 boys. team and I was like okay yeah this is. just like brain and it was bad like they.

lost scorched it was scorched it wasn't. even close yeah yeah um they were. laughing at himing it was pretty. funny okay so the way that I'm looking. at strength is less in sports and stuff. and more like physical combat and stuff. um like okay what about like Navy Seals. there are like hardly ever any I don't. even know there women Navy Seals that. women would never compete in a male. fighting sport ever they would get in. fact this is like part of the the the. trans athlete conversation is that like.

trans athletes even after doing a whole. bunch of stuff to like make them like. their tea and stuff similar to CIS women. all the CIS women that have fought them. and like they punch like nothing I've. ever experience. trck face I almost wonder if you don't. want to concede this because then it. would because perhaps you have a. corresponding position on the trans. people in sports thing and if you were. to concede that men are physically. stronger than women or males are. stronger than females then you then must. concede that we should not have trans. women in women's sports is that what.

this stems from um I don't think so I. think it's more just to do with my. personal experience with my mother and. like her like I know she could whoop. anybody's ass like my dad no your mother. could not whoop anybody's ass you think. she could beat up Joe. Rogan my Tyson I don't know if she was. angry enough no that's not your your. degree your degree of anger does not. dictate your ability. to beat someone in a fight who is say.

two times as strong as you and two who. weighs twice as much as you and who's a. foot taller than you in a fist fight let. me ask here can we pull up and talking. about professional fist fight. profession pull up a pull up a photo of. Brock Lesnar so your mom how tall is. your mom she's 5 foot she's how tall 5. foot 5 foot um okay she's 5 foot Nick. you got the. photos Nick she's gonna be so happy I.

Brock Lesnar. image also not saying women can't be. badass but yeah we have to work wait. before you pull it up before you pull it. up your mom could beat up. anybody I'm pretty confident she could. beat up a lot of people I don't know. about anybody anybody but I'm going to. confident what percentage of men could. your mom beat up at 5'4 do you think at. 5 foot she's 5 excuse 4 Shor than you.

are aware that the average male height. is like 5'9 5'10 I believe last time I. checked it was 5'8 yeah depends I. depends what country but the US in any. case so what percentage of men in the US. do you think that your mom could beat. up how much did she weigh too by the way. um right now she's at she's going to be. uncomfortable with me talking about this. I think. like your 5 foot mother's going to be.

uncomfortable about you talking about. her beating up men no about her weight. her weight okay I guess yes it's rude to. ask a woman's age and weight um how what. percentage of men do you think your mom. could beat up my guess would probably be. fist fight no like hidden weapons or any. Teeth. nails anything to the anything you could. she can use fighting dirty I think. approxim the man can fight dirty. too yeah Approximately 80% holy.

you're have you ever seen a. fist you are delusional dear. have you ever been trained in any sort. of MMA that's the first question oh my. God not even just like. karate to be lethal like okay do you. have the Brock Lesnar clip so before you. pull it up oh well that wait just the. first one do the first one the Wikipedia. the first one the first one did your mom. beat him up um so Brock Lesnar I think.

he's like well over 6 feet he's probably. over 200 lb um damn could your mom beat. him up you said he's six feet forget. just just based off say anyone though no. no but that's fine but I'm asking could. your M 20% huh he could be in the 20%. that she can't beat up what if no no no. could she could probably do it yeah. forget his height forget his height. let's say this is 5 foot Brock Lesnar. this is his could your mom beat up Brock.

Lesnar UFC she might she might be able. to okay oh my God you're delusional you. are I'm sorry but there there's no other. way to say this you think your mom could. beat up out of 4 billion men 80% of them. no we said in the US we did say in the. US 300 million we have 150 let's say 100. million men I bet you your mom could Pat. up like a guy who was like a paraplegic. and was like 80 and like maybe a bit. more but like this is where like God. theory of violence is really important.

and our society has the worst and women. have a way worse theory of violence than. men cuz every man knows that he is not. taking on a 62 even if he's 5'8 right. like no shot because it's like going. your mom is going into a sword fight. with a little dagger like the reach. alone is so dangerous like no it's going. into a night no it's it's worse so much. worse she might not be able to even. reach his head to punch him in the head. right and this is why like Brock Lesnar. is an F16 and your mom is a needle.

that's that's the distinct that's the. difference literally that that would be. the distinction and I feel like if we. could like have even fight like. feminists wouldn't be like you know. arguing things probably just fight back. against men just beat them all up what. is the logic can you. that what oh this way oh no yeah okay. Sor sorry that was my OCD. um what is the I want to ask the whole.

table here not to not to like. because I fight I fight I. have senses that will slap me in. the face it doesn't matter how. much I'm like yeah I got this I'm a yeah. I'm just mad like let's just go man. people will put me in my place so fast. like it's not funny like a let's say. like a probably beat up 80% sense she'll. probably beat up both my sense who have. years of experience I have a I have a uh.

a question so so okay. um in and know ju did you say you do. jiujitsu I do yeah like grappling so I. I've heard this like a a male blue belt. and by the way belts and like it takes a. long time to get belts years Jiu-Jitsu. it's a lot longer than so in Jiu-Jitsu. my understanding is like a male same. weight a male blue belt is going to tap. a female black belt period it has a lot.

to do with weight weight is what's keep. down I would argue even like same weight. like a male look maybe uh also I. wrestled I did wrestling in high school. we had women on the team um and uh. typically like the women when they went. to the tournaments like. they typically more often than not they. lost okay um by the way can can I just. yeah instruct my team and my audience.

who are watching this to begin the meme. generation of my mom can beat up Brock. Lesnar do it immediately as fast as you. possibly can I don't understand. why I think I think here's the thing it. should be like you had to like calculate. whether like what if the adrenaline it's. like it should be an in many. factors there's no factors you see you. see a photo of Brock Lesnar you know. that your mom is 5 feet you ought it. should be instantaneous n she he could.

kill her and but it also depends on how. smart they are and how quick they. are like a trained like. even if he wasn't he was a UFC champion. sit on her and be done like let's be. real does even have experience you can. stay honor but but you said it it comes. down to. intelligence not it doesn't come down to. but I think that's another Factor like. if you're quick on your feet and if you. know fighting skills I think that those. things is your professional it can help.

so let let me ask you this question. let's say Brock Lesnar but so Brock. Lesnar granted is a UFC fighter let's. just say he's totally untrained but in. that body totally untrained male has. never tooken a boxing class hasn't even. done like Tai bow nothing he. just goes to the gym and he attained. that bill just goes to the gym zero. fight training your mom at 5T she is the. pound-for-pound best MMA fighter in the.

world does your mom still beat in a. fight does she beat beat up Brock. Lesnar I there's probably a 85 to 99 90%. probability that she could some girl. math here this is girl math right here. 85 to 90% I am I am super ignorant so. this is a genuine question cuz I've read. some stuff about certain um what is it. and this is not to defend it's just out. of curiosity cuz I know you do martial. arts like certain martial arts um if you.

get really well trained you can use. opponent's like own like body or like. physical for them there's also so many. other things like pressure points and. stuff but you they'd have to be in that. position at that moment to do that and. also not like the case all the time also. by the way men can be so physically. overpoweringly strong that it doesn't. matter where you get them with the. leverage it doesn't matter any of that. they don't even move that guy. pound-for-pound can take on aing Bear.

right I think this is actually just one. thing. $200 is she confused about who can win a. fight when arguing cuz this chick. doesn't know when to tap on maybe her. mom doesn't either stop hitting her. she's brain. dead um I guess this is like a really. big safety thing too this is why I fight. really hard against feminists who say. this any girl who's like dating a boy. ask him to try to like just bear hug you. like physically like don't get them to. choke you or anything just restrain you. and say don't let me go and I'm going to.

fight as hard as I can it's really. important that women understand like. this is why like I'm all for women. taking self-defense courses and stuff. but the best self-defense as my cough. dad would say is screaming please. help me and trying to run and. whistles and stuff it's really important. that women understand like this is why. when women talk about like feeling. unsafe around men and men like are poo. pooing it it's like no this is why this. really really matters is because the. power disparity between the average man. and the average woman I'm the same. height as my husband he would if.

he wanted to kill me he could kill me at. literally any time no matter what and. only if I had a gun could maybe I do and. if we're in close quarters I still might. be but even then they usually. take the guns away from the women true. feminism is giving women testosterone. has a lot to do with it which we lack in. as females testosterone pushes buttons. in men and the higher it goes and like. the more enraged you are as a man I've. seen it like it's well it's not just. that but testosterone is the building. blocks for things like muscle I mean you.

need it for almost everything absolutely. for men it's the Fountain of Youth. that's what testosterone is for your. point was so good ask a man to just even. just squeeze you kind of hard you can't. even breathe like I just actually had. this happen and this guy was like 6 foot. tall and I was like he just hugged me so. tight and cracked my back I was like oh. my God like I it was just like intense. and I fight unless 5 days a week. actually so that was like and I wasn't.

trying to fight him but his strength. alone was like surprising to me I was. like wow like and I've been in similar. situations to that I'm not going to say. that can beat up any man I can't beat up. my own like I can't beat up any woman. I'm weak as physically I don't can. you beat up Nick you might be that's a. good know I'm kid I'm kid probably not. like I mean I used to get in fights with. my ex and I like I'd freaking start him. and I'd still get my ass whooped you. know physical fights like you and you. you would oh it was like mutually. violent you would start.

fights physical um the physical part of. um he would be like verbally abusive and. then I would just like have a melt down. and then just start flailing my arms. everywhere I do that fling what do you. mean MH at him I fling your arms like so. here demonstrate for me that that's a. pretty good demonstration this this not. I don't think I mean what is that that I. that like an Irish dance I don't know. but I mean I have and I had deep regrets.

about that and it was very wrong of me. um you did it multiple times. yes what you said he was being verbally. abusive so what would he say that would. compel you to physically strike. him God it's been so long it's been a. long time wait you are saying clearly. though it was wrong not okay yes. absolutely AB so but what what was he. saying that would that precipitated you. physically assulting intentionally. hurtful things um he such.

as I don't remember it's been a it's. been a minute give me one example CU you. said this happened multiple times so. yeah. does it matter so yeah like well I mean. do matter no I I don't think I don't. think it's ever Justified to strike. somebody but I'm sure you don't it just. like it feels like now we're digging. into it for like why they were which. feels odd it's her personal like okay. well I'm still asking. so I so it was uh what he was saying and.

the intention to hurt me behind it and. then also uh buildup like it would be a. long hurtful conversation and then like. I would get so angry that you know I. would have a Outburst um damn. it's an embarrassing to talk about this. was it was it unilaterally verbally. abusive like when you were engaging in. these arguments and like you were just. not saying anything mean to him and like. I assume there was some there was times. where I did say some mean things to him. but there was a lot of times especially. like in the last like year of the.

relationship where I did my best to not. verbally engage with those things I. would just tell him like it's wrong for. you to say this to me it's wrong for you. to Gaslight me I would try my best to. calmly or at the very. least um harmlessly explain like why. he's hurting me and then he would. continue to do it and then that's. whenever I would have a physical. reaction would he strike you back or he. would just um less I mean there was. certain times where he striked me back.

but most of the time he just allowed you. to no not allowed he would just like. restrain. me okay most but he most of the time he. would not like strike you back most of. the time you attacked him and he. restrained. you yeah I think I think I mean if I'm. understanding what you're asking. correctly again just to be clear like. she's saying that this was wrong so I. understand like digging into it but like. the fact that she's being honest about. it and saying like this isn't okay is a. good thing even though I we would all.

agree it's not a good thing I just like. I'm really worried about like what the. chat's now like going and doing right. now where it's like just so it's clear. her saying like this was in correct and. showing remorse is the correct response. to that past yeah I'm just one example. of something he said that made you. strike him um I had okay I had told him. that I was really insecure and I felt. like really lazy about like not being. able to do school work not having the. motivation to clean my room and then he. would go and be like you're a lazy piece. of or you know something along not.

a nice thing to say no. not of those you slapped him what did. you do that actually that one time. specifically my mind we were having an. argument in the car on the way to his. family's house and he I don't remember. what the argument was about or nothing. like that but I remember he got out of. the car he was about to go get his stuff. out of the trunk or something like that. and on his way opening the door he was. like you're lazy as or that like.

that's why you're lazy or you know he. said it in a way that like was. intentional to dig at me so I got out of. the car and I went walked around the car. to where he was and I tried I just swung. and tried to slap him I didn't I didn't. slap him that time I don't. think I don't remember exactly how it. went down but yeah how old was he uh we. were the same age I don't remember what. what in the time period this was in our. relationship but probably 16 we were. probably both. 16 let's bring it back to the strength. thing so um okay so I don't think I.

honestly have much more to say like I. like I said there's a lot of factors. that go into it the adrenaline the. intellectual the intellect of an. individual you know how quick they are. on their feet fighting skills that they. have all of these things what would it. take to convince you that you're. incorrect about this Statistics we we. showed you we showed you the grip. strength study we showed you in the. previous episode that the the male. deadlift what deadlift the yes I was. about to say the deadlift it was like.

men the world record is twice as much in. deadlift for men as it is in women and I. I showed you the that gold medal. comparison that the that high school. boys who are not at the top of the. hierarchy when it comes to uh. athleticism well I mean compared to. female Olympians they out compete female. Olympians mhm so what I. I'm I I'm failing to see what it would. does anybody here at the table think.

that there's a Smoking Gun that would. convince her that men are just. physically stronger than women generally. speaking no and I'm asking the chat too. if the chat has any if we're missing. something here that would help us uh is. there is there like a Smoking Gun piece. of I don't know study or let me okay. what would it take to convince you that. your mom couldn't beat up 80% of the. men I don't know I mean I'm sure I could. be proven wrong on that I'm not like. firm on it I he asked me what percentage.

or you know whatever I just gave a guess. there was like a meta analysis of like. 10,000 data points and it was like con. inclusive that on average men hold like. more explosive power on every single. like metric and their entomology like. literally is towards and being like. stronger would you would that convince. you I think so I think from everything. that I received from the point that you. were making okay those do exist they. exist and they're pretty strong. overwhelmingly like could never be.

refuted but I used to I used to like. think what you thought so like but I I. just hope that you at least you. understand what I'm saying especially. used to have that perspective that it's. strength can be is so many different. things at once sure the issue is that. like okay oh my god when it comes to. every single metric of strength men just. out compete and like at the end of the I. so I do understand what you're saying. it's just like I think at some point. it's okay to be like yeah I guess I was. incorrect about that which is like and. that's honestly I've come here to learn.

to try to you know expand my ability to. debate um being in a group dynamic like. this where like everyone's just like. take pot shots isn't exactly the best. space to be like waving The Humble flag. either cuz I don't think anyone will. take it so and I have been pretty firm. about this but because nobody put it the. way that she just put it there's no or I. was really asking for what how did you. put it a meta analysis of what 10,000. plus points like sorry like data points. like an N of 10,000 okay I don't know if. you know what an N is but size.

M so maybe if you guys could have just. done that Mr professional debater like. you I mean I'm frustated you say you're. a professional de and then you. immediately get fired Up when somebody. doesn't agree with you or when something. isn't making complete sense when you. haven't let somebody complete their. point and no you listen to me give me a. how much more time do I need to let you. talk I barely said anything to you so. listen you're telling me to listen in. the middle of my listen listen when you. say Mr professional Mr professional. debator here's me Mr professionally.

debating if you're so stupid you. don't understand men are stronger than. women you're not worth debating you're. not smart enough to have the convers. there like it's crazy to me why would I. need to debate with you that the sky is. blue or that there's clouds or that why. would I debate those things you chose to. come on the podcast I come on the. podcast to choose to debate with a clown. doesn't know that men are stronger than. women ever that like if don't have the. con don't interact just sit back relax.

take I have been we could the I haven't. been doing this but you deserve it. honestly she wasn't like that her. opinion couldn't kind of been SED you. should have been okay that's the end of. the conversation let's move on it's just. kind of been like I also feel like as a. woman it's like it's not really the girl. power point it's supposed to be when. like I feel like a big basis of a lot of. women's issues is we can't fight back. you know so I feel like okay not not. totally related but. um the thing is is that it's it's.

shocking to hear somebody say that. because it in the same way that Andrew. said he doesn't want to debate whether. the sky is blue uh you don't really like. how do you like it's almost self-evident. that men are stronger than women it need. not even. be there need not even be studies done. but they've done many studies comparing. strength for example uh do you do.

acknowledge that men generally speaking. are larger in size right and so that. might manifest itself for example in the. components that make up your body right. so if you're physically bigger that. means you have more fat you have more uh. skeleton uh you have more muscle correct. okay now what if you lift weights and. you start getting stronger you start. developing what muscle right so do you. acknowledge that men on average have. more muscle than.

women yes I think we had this this part. of the conversation last time where. there was more muscle on the average if. you have more muscle do you are you. going to be stronger generally speaking. we can get into like different types of. muscle fibers and you know I mean I. don't need the necessarily the muscle. fibers. but I would say yes the somebody that. has more muscle has stronger no I don't. I don'ts so I'm not going to to say that. I'm strong that's that's fine um if you.

started to lift weights would you. anticipate an increase in your muscle. size. as long as I'm feeding my body. nutritiously I would say so yes okay and. correspondingly if you started lifting. weights your strength would increase. correct M okay so your muscle size would. increase you'd be able to lift more. weights so if men have more muscle mass. wouldn't it be generally you can see. that men on average have more muscle. mass than women just due to their larger.

physical size yes and I think I see so. so do you do you then think be you've. conceded that men have more muscle mass. you can see that they're physically. larger because men have more muscle mass. on average would you say that on average. due to men's greater muscle mass that. they're stronger than. women logically yes that makes sense but. what do you mean logically. yes the reason that I have an issue. conceeding on this topic is because I.

don't want to put out there to the men. that aren't willing to the audience that. isn't willing. to log like look at the all of the. aspects into in it in the the strength. um so I don't want to just be like. willy-nilly. um men are stronger than women because. like we've discussed there are so many. women that are stronger than men and we. haven't taken that's not the there okay. but we've already addressed that before. so are there women that are stronger.

than men absolutely Are there women that. could beat up men. absolutely but just because there are. women that could beat up men does not. mean that if that all women could beat. up all men yeah I. know but so we're not saying we're not. say like I don't know I don't even know. how to how to argue this I don't know. can we stop talking to Brook for my S. obviously men are stronger than women.

let's move on to others on the panel. instead of focusing on whether the sky. is blue I just I agree I I agree. doesn't it ory to be wrong and I think. like like for example like all the chat. being like ha yeah it's awesome she's. just some dumb bimbo it's like. that's exactly the problem with all of. this like ideological wrestling is that. it's damn near impossible ideological. wrestling I mean you yourself has said. have said that but you agree age you. agree that men are like this is like.

this simple simple thing for example. it's very simple though why are why are. women out competing on super marathons. all of a sudden do you know why that is. no tell us we no we actually address. this I know that's the interesting. question why the are women doing so. well on super marathons I why would that. matter to this claim because I'm not. saying that it matters to this claim I'm. saying like being really nasty towards. somebody who like is having a hard time. admitting that are wrong in a space that. it's really hard to ever be wrong in I.

think is just shitty no we don't need we. don't I say that's totally. fair. just let Andrew resp this is the most. ridiculous thing I've ever heard we went. through this for like 2 hours last time. with her on hang on stop stop last time. I was on whatever went through two hours. so she had all that time to come back. for that one big claim the whole time to. just Google are men stronger than women.

and the big Google box which goes yes. and big neon signs and there's going to. be Sparkles and flowers poofing that yes. yes she could have done that she didn't. so yeah is she poking fun of her and. laughing at her yeah does she deserve it. yeah is she going to learn from it. probably not should she do should you do. it for like 30 to 50 minutes is my kind. of my question I agree two hours 3 hours. 4 hours can iish can I finish my. thoughts with with love I think it's. like a pretty bad position I think. you're wrong obviously right and I think.

like holding to it regardless of. anything is like probably not a good. look the issue is like after her and I. exchange she's like okay yeah I guess. you're right but then just needed to go. back into it and like rake things over. the coals again and you had to have your. big diet tribe about like how she's dumb. and not worth debating ever and stuff. like that which I'm not even disagreeing. with you the issue is like why is this. nasty Behavior necessary when we all. pretend like we're here to like wrestle. with ideas and try to figure out like. the answers to reality none of these. types of orientations because it's a. rejection of reality it doesn't matter. it doesn't no it doesn't matter about.

the way that you treat other people yes. it does listen when you say when you say. it's not t Poli I'm not saying you're. like doing dog if you're going to. wrestle with different ideas you're. going to wrestle with different things. that people believe you have to risk. being offensive and sometimes you have. to be mean to jar them out of their. nonsense and their I've had to. do it hundreds of times you've had to. too I've seen you do it so let's not. pretend for a second that this is. somebody on some big white horse right. trying to ride in and save her from.

something that should that what should. have happened instead she should have. just been like listen doofus stop doing. that sure. I'm Sor please let me please just it'll. take two seconds when you guys were. running in circles last time and this. time okay when you guys were running in. circles in this conversation this time. and last time failing to understand what. I was trying to say and maybe I wasn't. putting it across the best way maybe I. wasn't and I could admit to that and I. wasn't she fine go ahead go ahead go. ahead okay okay um it was just not. productive because you guys were.

completely failing to understand the. point that I was trying to make which. was what which was it's very hard to. quantify. strength there's no it's not though she. just said that there was. 10,000 but but you said you said it's. hard to quantify strength so what about. all like for example in physical. education I think you had to do like. pull-ups and push-ups like if if you. just took like an untrained like an. untrained boy and an untrained girl like. men did you take PE in high school or in.

yeah like was there a pull-up test was. there was there running was there. push-ups typically the women were. allowed to do push-ups on their knees. did you do push-ups on your knees in. physical education mhm were the boys. able to do push-ups without being on. their knees so okay that's chest. strength push strength do you think this. motion when it comes to self-defense the. ability to force like literally a punch. this is a punching motion so your. push-up strength would would um I'm.

I'm would would uh translate to perhaps. your strength when punching somebody. don't you think that that could be an. indicator maybe yes it is an indicator. and that's what I'm saying like quantify. so let's say let's say the boys in. physical education class in junior high. school and high school they're able to. do push-ups not using their knees and. they can do far more than women would. that be quantifying men's strength with. versus women's strength or what about. pull-ups I remember when I was in high.

school I could do 10 pull-ups the girl. maybe two girls could do one pull-up do. you do you remember doing pull-ups in. high school. yeah so actually the girls use use that. life experience the the pull-ups in high. school were the boys able to do more. pullups than the women. mhm okay it's been Quantified I also. don't know how active these men or these. boys have been throughout their life and. how active they are on a recreational. level and I know you know or I don't. know how active the every single day you.

have PE class and you're doing the same. activ do at home you know what are they. didn't you already agree with me though. about like the stats and everything like. didn't you just yes I'm just I'm just. trying to reemphasize the the question I. think it's I think it's okay to just be. wrong right I think it's okay to be like. all of the issues that I was Raising. before probably aren't that valid but. she doesn't concede that she's wrong. agree that she does she doesn't I agree. that she concede but here's a question. I'd actually want to ask you to why did. she concede to me that she was wrong. well I think she was she conceded to me.

that I was wrong I said she said I said. would a study like a meta analysis of. 10,000 convince you that there was. actually has ConEd to you yes I did. explicitly did and I you just to say to. her 5 seconds ago uh I thought you just. conceded this point and she was like. well no not really she fully conceded. that men are stronger than women based. on the evidence I submitted to her. correct yes what evidence did you submit. to I said that there's meta analysis. with over 10,000 data points that would. very clearly normatively show on all.

metrics of strength that men are. stronger so why do you so so the. question that you have for us is I think. what you're trying to say is that you. created an escape route for her to get. away false the question is why did she. concede with me and not with you or you. that's what I'm asking because you. created an Escape Route for her how is. that an escape route to say there is. that meta analysis well because it's. very clear at this point from from her. perspective after getting beat up on. this two times in a row over and over. and over again by everybody sitting at. the table both times that she was. completely Incorrect and essentially.

thre a Lifeline she was able to grab the. lifeline I was happy I was happy to let. you throw the lifeline happy to let her. grab it happy to move on from that right. except when we kind of get back into it. we go wait a second did she. really she agreed with her and then no. one moved on like we didn't move on in. large part because Brian wanted to read. which is fine it's your show obviously. part of why we didn't move on is because. Brian redirected to the question Point. she did concede to me it doesn't mean.

that she conceded with me about like. grip strength I didn't get into all of. those specifics necessarily but I think. it's important to pose of like what are. the things that are necessary to like. allow people to be willing to change. their mind and what I was saying about. you guys like I think it's fine to think. she's got a dumbass idea and wrong and. be like a little mean to her about it I. don't think that that's a problem I. think it's really weird though when like. everyone's like group punching on her. it's like you have you ever seen a fight. where like one kid gets punched in the. face and then 10 other kids come from. metor and stomping on each other this is. almost like if if everyone here agreed.

that I have blue eyes and she's like no. he has brown eyes and we're like no no. no no no he has blue eyes like that is. the Ree of the delusion she's not in. she's not operating in reality at all I. know if my response would be to like. Circle the Drain with her for an hour. just to keep highlighting how wrong she. is and then when somebody else on the. panel gets her to be like okay I guess. they are brown when you say it that way. I wouldn't then recircle back to it I. would go why am I recycling back here. probably for Content In fairness which. is not like the worst I just like so. this whole white night obviously.

just perhaps you're you're you're using. you're you've got the kid gloves on with. her and perhaps the way you worded it. it's not even clear to me me because if. if you ask her if you get her to concede. to the point and then I then ask. essentially this I don't know if I ask. the exact same thing as you but if I say. well okay then so if you conc to her. point then surely you must surely must. be the case that you agree that men. generally speaking are stronger than. women and then you say no in actuality.

she didn't concede to your point she I. guess she just wanted to be agreeable. with you because you were being Pleasant. to her question now. I'm not attacking her she's not she's. not being like he's not I think the only. name calls was like probably Andrew he. said she she was stupid and dumb as. I think that was yeah no that's what I'm. saying Bri no no Brian you weren't I'm. saying it's cuz you were coming off like. every time she would tell you like maybe. this is what I think this is my opinion. you kept let's like making the point. that she is wrong here let's let her.

speak for herself it's not even about. what I think I okay it is about what I. think but it's more about really the way. that I'm thinking. it um like I've been trying to say it's. like there's so many factors that go. into. strength. um there's so many factors that go into. strength and it's really hard with the. with what the information that you guys. were giving me all y'all gave me what. what are the factors that go into. strength there we talked about it the.

adrenalin um the muscle mass the grip. strength you know all those things Okay. so so we established that grip strength. men have more grip strength we. established that men have more muscle. density and muscle mass and when it. comes to Adrenaline let's if I were to. concede to you that when it when in a. fight ORF flight situation both men and. women receive the same dose of. adrenaline using those other factors if. the muscle mass is more in men and the. grip strength is more in men but the.

adrenaline is the same. then wouldn't men still be stronger yes. compared to like okay yes so okay so. there are those factors and then there. are factors that I don't know about and. I cannot list and I don't know if. anybody can list them because you. probably have to have a pretty in-depth. understanding of biology no you don't. need an indepth understanding of biology. you don't do do you think in order to. make the determination that men are.

stronger than women generally speaking. that you need to have like a PhD and I. think it requires a met analysis that. she was referring to whether or not you. have a PhD you take that so let me ask. you a question would say a 10-year-old. boy who's in elementary school would he. be in incap incapable of coming to the. conclusion that men are stronger than. women only yeah because he doesn't have. the facts if he doesn't have the facts. then there's no way he can come to that. conclusion right does that mean like I. don't know if so what about me I I. dropped out of City.

College I uh I dropped out of City. College I never got a a degree from a. institution of higher education because. of my lack of credentials am am I. incapable of coming to the conclusion. that men are stronger than women no. because it's not about the credentials. I'm telling it's about the facts that. you know if you know the facts then you. know the facts and that's the end of it. is that easy to understand. um okay.

um I don't even know how to argue this. to be honest because you can't I mean if. you. then you know them and you can provide. them and you can use them in your. argument what if I what if his point. would be like he provided multiple. multiple. multiple saw it let me ask you let me. ask you a question let me ask you a. question so we have the we have. the great benefit of the internet let's. go back a 100 years let's say I didn't. have let's say I was some farm boy that.

never that I never went to school I grew. up on a farm go go back 200 years grew. up on the farm didn't have access to. Internet never went to school had no. education would I be wrong as somebody. who's had no education who can't Google. grip strength and Olympian well there. wasn't the Olympics 200 years or. actually well the Greeks. had I think it came when did the. Olympics come back in the early 1900s.

early 19s yeah in any case that's kind. of irrelevant would I not be able to. determine that men are physically. stronger than women so you could make a. generalization based off the information. that you've gather gathered throughout. your lifetime but you cannot state for a. fact with 100% confidence and certainty. that men are stronger than women because. as a farm boy that doesn't know nothing. you've seen this much of the world and. been given the information of or this. much information about the world. actually as a farm boy you might have.

substantial amount of information. because that's physical that's a. physically laborious job I don't. disagree with you but I'm just and. perhaps if something heavy on the farm. needs to be moved it's not the women. that ends up moving it but it's the men. exactly so that would be that you could. come to a generalization using that. information I don't like I don't but you. said I don't even know I don't know how. to further I think like the most. important thing in all this is you need. to have like a line of credulity right. and like I don't know if a met analysis. of 10,000 is the best line of credulity.

it's one but it's like you know for. example probably what Brian and Andrew. would point to and most a chat would be. like you can just like look around at. life and like see it and so I think like. any whenever you're thinking about an. idea you must have a line where you say. like this would be enough to convince me. and if you don't have that line the. reality is like you probably don't have. much worth and really engaging in the. idea and I'm not saying that this is. just you just be clear like everybody in. chat Who's laughing at this has some. dumb beliefs with no lines of. credulity either it's just like what.

we're running into in here is like. Brian's like there is no line of. credulity other than like probably know. he's mind he's like the reason maybe. Kyla was effective is cuz she like has. tits um and like said it nicely um which. I'm not sure if that's actually what I. don't that's not my position but true I. would be curious I guess maybe your. position is that I didn't actually. convince her I think it's actually your. well it could be the case that she has. an in-group bias for other women and to. hear it from a woman might. actually well not because you have tits. oh so so when I say when I have tits. It's like a joke towards I see because.

we're women yeah okay sure um I was. actually hopeful that Andrew last. episode would be able at least. understand the. logical there's nothing logical in I'm. your position the question of the logic. the question of the objectivity of. strength and the question of the. quantifiability like that's because I'm. just raising questions that's it all I. wasn't solid arguments please I wasn't. making solid arguments I didn't make a. single solid argument actually this.

whole conversation in the last. conversation I just said I don't know I. do not have all of the quantifiable. information or the yeah all of the data. that it would need or that I would need. to determine if all if on average men. are stronger than women make the. statement that your mom could beat up. 80% of men he asked for a random. statistic that was just a freaking guess. let me let me ask you a question let's. say you went to a powerlifting. competition a lifting like where they do. various lifts um and you were you could.

like interview every single individual. at this powerlifting competition and. let's say that there's 100 men and 100. women and they're all it's not just like. you're comparing 100 men who lift to 100. women who have lived sedentary lives. they're both uh they're Peak athletes. they both are in the top of their. competition they're at a competition um. if you were able to interview all of. them like don't you think in that cohort. in that well not don't you think but. I'll ask do you think that the men would.

be stronger than the women. based on the information that I've. gained from this episode I'm going to. say yes the men would be stronger than. women we did. resolution okay all right. um a liberal talking point earlier in. the conversation so I think pixie blue. pilled you wait what's that you gave. some like liberal kind of talking point.

and I was going to make a joke about how. pixie blue pilled you when you guys are. ready to date but oh I forgot it I can't. remember what it was okay well we're. going to move on was it the in group. bias no no no it's like two hours ago. sitting on that J wait wait wait I'm. sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry are. men stronger than. women yes okay she just okay I'm not. goingon to convince her all right we're. gonna move on um we have damn Daniel we. have Sergio Banks 87 how the f are you. incapable of answering the obvious.

answer it's as easy as saying women make. better mothers in pixie don't you dare. bring up trans men okay okay not sure. what that's related to it was like 40. minutes ago so there's a lot of feelings. on that one all right we have God. there's like. layers we have uh firsttime chatter what. percent of women could her mom beat up. more than 80% now a key that can open. many locks is called a master key but a. lock that can be opened by Benny Keys is. a shitty lock thoughts thoughts. dire a pencil that could be sharpened a.

lies a bad pencil but a sharpener who's. here we have another chat coming in here. we have uh hey blondie is the world. flat that there's plenty of proof. against it but you don't know for sure. until you see it for yourself right or. until you see all the worlds in all. Dimensions do you think the world is. flat no okay have you ever had Zera on. I'm actually super curious no I haven't. had him on you haven't would you have. him on like cuz he's into the Flat Earth. let's say pre zerka burning every single.

possible human bridge would you have had. zirka on cuz he was a flat earther and. if you would would you have gone at him. as heart cuz dumb wait would I. have what would You' have gone at him as. hard to debate him about flatter about. FLIR well it's I feel like uh that's. totally unrelated to it's super separate. it's a super separate topic OB I'm just. honestly like I find the whole that. whole debate so dumb in pointless like. would like I don't care kind of dumb and. pointless yeah but it's uh I I see what. you're saying but I care so much less.

about like the flatter thing well I mean. even compar to I I have a much stronger. position on male versus female strength. as I do like Flat Earth is just. conspiracy theory so I mean. theoretically women being as strong as. men is just like silly conspiracy theory. that most people don't believe in. all right all right we have a chat here. from hold on one sec we have Rola can we. get my queen in the corner of cough drop. she's been dying all podcast and it's. breaking my heart oh yeah she I don't.

know if you guys heard she was in the. bathroom like coughing up the storm so. yeah good times inur looks concerned um. all right so let's get into some of. finally some some a bit more juicy stuff. here um. juicy. now we will come back I know we wanted. to get back to the trans stuff um did we. yeah we'll get we'll get there in just a. sec we'll get back into some of that. stuff in just a sec I want to go around. the table though uh who here considers. themselves a feminist I'm not yeah sure.

okay. yes yes. yeah. somewhat first wave yes everything after. the original original yes yes first. second wave is pretty first and second. than that fourth wave is kind of there's. some dopers in there uh do you believe. in the. patriarchy I don't know what that is. actually okay oh I think it's like a. silly buzz word that's like pretty. useless to describe anything okay I mean. yeah the concept exists okay yep yeah.

mhm do you mean like do I believe in the. word or do like kind of curious s do you. think the patriarchy exists I think is. the point of. question yeah I guess okay so under the. patriarchy my understanding right. feminist scholar over here can you. explain what patriarchy is though how. are you defining it I mean there's so. many different there's so many different. different definitions I've heard from. women that it's a world built by men for. men uh I disagree with if if that is the.

definition from from feminist I'd say. it's a really common definition. I'm to the feminis but so I agree with. the first part the world is absolutely. built by men but it's not for the. benefit of men um but I've also heard a. society that typ where where men have a. uh to some degree a monopoly on high. positions of power within government and. corporations and so on um maybe the.

leadership the leadership positions in. society are held by men yeah there's. like struct patriarchy and cultural. patriarchy there's a whole bunch of. different things but so okay uh you. believe in the patriarchy or sorry I. think I went around the table went. around the yes and my understanding is. the patriarchy says that women are. oppressed and men are the oppressors. it's not as simple as that yeah it's not. well okay fine how about this under. patriarchy are women oppressed yes so. are men I'm the worst so I I'm going to.

fight with all the feminists on this one. I think we live in like a basically a. post I'm going to piss you guys off I'm. sorry I we live in a post-patriarchal. world I don't really think it exists I. think there's some level of cultural. patriarchy um but I don't think any good. like there's very few feminists like. Simone deoa was like the only one. actually talking about it because she's. the last feminist to be like. good at writing I guess um but I'm very. I'm not the best person to ask to. represent the feminists okay I infight. with feminists a lot okay but so are. under patriarchy or whether you agree.

with it or not do you guys consider say. for example in the US are women. oppressed not in the US not in the. like to a certain extent I feel. like like men are victims of the same a. lot of the same things that women are so. it's kind of like they just don't talk. about it as much I think oppressed is a. really heavy word to use and I think we. have a really strong connotation of it. in like in our minds um but I would say. with a objective use of the word.

oppressed yes women are oppressed in. America so and pixie are women oppressed. in the US yeah yes women and men are. both oppressed under the patriarchy just. through different. ways okay I agree with that so so since. you it sounds like you three consider. yourself to be oppressed how are you. oppressed since you're women you said. women are oppressed so how are you. oppressed I mean cuz I feel like it's. like systematic sexual violence against. women well hold on systematic like it's. so common and built into our world and.

like like I feel like I'm about to start. talk about some of the things I supposed. to talk about yeah yeah yeah I yeah okay. but like I feel like women are kind of. like sexually like kind let me ask you a. question which system which system or. institution grid One Motorsports donated. $200 Brian who ordered extra blonde. moments tonight maybe debating Andrew. being a big old meanie is more useful or. something meaningful like how feminism. has failed them how can the patriarchy.

help you thank you thank you good one. thank you man um which you mentioned. system which system is like. wholesale essaying women I mean it's. it's not wholesale but I guess I mean I. mean you're not going to like this I. feel like cuz it's not even just. directly towards woman I feel like. Purity culture is one thing that kind of. what's Purity culture I feel like. religion kind of teaches a lot of. certain things what is what does. religion kind of teach that's that's so. terrible I.

mean cuz I don't want I feel like I'm. going to start like trigger words but. like you're averagely it's not like all. virgins are children that's not true I'm. not trying to say that there aren't. virgin adult women but when you start. kind of like there's a reason like I'm. when did you get married I just said. that there are like 23 yeah I'm not. saying that all vir of children I didn't. say all like how he said they're. probably a big strong woman who could. beat a bunch of men are you about to. shame men for their preference I'm not. shaming men for a preference I'm saying. but it is weird Okay if you're a man who. has like freaking 75 bodies and you want.

a virgin why is that yeah it's like if I. think she's the point she's trying to. get to and correct me if I'm wrong is. she's saying that we currently live in a. society SL system that does praise men. generally speaking for having high body. counts while shaming women who have high. body counts not sure if that's evidence. of Oppression but and by the way is that. we're going to have toig is that. religion that's just relig we're getting. a little bit off topic I feel like when. you make it like being sexual is being. impure it's kind of like and then what. what group of what are most virgins and.

what are most sexually active people. adults children like it's just kind of. I'm not saying that's 100% of the time. there are virgin adults but majority of. virgins are young I'm not saying 100%. I'm not saying there's not exceptions. you're not wrong to say that the. majority of virgins are wrong but if. we're having a yeah not wrong I said. majority of virgins are and so if you're. kind of like putting this if we're. putting sexual Purity on a high pedestal. it kind of like like you know with all. that that was they were literally.

putting what's it called sorry my blood. suir is dropping if my words are kind of. stuttering but um what was I going to. say like for the for millions and. millions of dollars of hush money in the. Catholic church to go towards covering. up the mation of children that went deep. into the like into the church and all. I'm saying is is it's like would you. hold the public schools to the same. standard considering there's a whole lot. more essay that goes on in public. schools than on that yes in fact it's 10. times more it's more doesn't mean it's.

okay because I've searched up for. that and so do you know what like. University or do do we think the reason. like when priest touch these little boys. it's because they're like pure I feel. like a reason they touch is cuz they're. pure stop you're derailing the. conversation. um go ahead um how are you oppressed um. I think the best and most clear example. that I can give is.

um how women are how women's physiolog. phys physiology is integrated I guess or. interacted with in American Society for. example um sorry um I I believe and okay. let. me women's physiology is not studi not. studied as much as men um so like men. are used more in case studies than women.

so uh with like a lot of medications for. example um and like just basically the. understanding that we have of the human. body is. more it has more of a foundation of the. studying of men I so I I have heard that. that there's studies are more frequently. done on on men I I haven't fully looked. into the points and counterpoints in. that one reason I can provide for you. why that might be is because at any. given time if you're testing some new.

medication on somebody if that person. happens to be pregnant that could be. catastrophic to the child so my. understanding and there could be some. more points and counterpoints is one of. the reasons they're more likely to test. medications on men is that there's no. risk on a potential unknown uh pregnancy. or child that's my that's my. understanding it's also from menstration. because there's chemical differences and. distinctions which can happen during the. course of the study and women can't. always track that so they might think. it's coming right but they don't know.

for sure sometimes it's two weeks late. sometimes it's a week early so they. can't always do that for the wait so but. but your point you're saying that women. are oppressed because they're less. likely to have uh experimental drugs. tested on them that would suggest to me. that men are desperate for money and. that they're willing to undergo like. take these experimental drugs just to. get money because it's certainly the. case that men for example are more. likely to be homeless and more likely to. be socio economically in a bad position.

you disagree with that then how can it. possibly be I'm not disagreeing about. homelessness um what do you I guess it. means exactly what you mean by. socioeconomic position 80% of the. homeless are men that would suggest to. me that the the worst socioeconomic. position is homelessness right but then. I guess the argument would be like or. cuz you can argue like the majority of. like and this is just playing with. numbers now right because you can argue. the majority of men are homeless right. or of sorry of homeless people are men.

but then let's say the number of um moms. in poverty maybe not homeless are like. 10 times higher than the base number of. homeless people right then that would. suggest like some there when it. comes to like how we're determining um. what sex is like suffering to Google I. don't know I honestly don't know that's. why my face wait a second by. gender. uh poverty rates by gender let me see. hold on I just want to make sure I'm. getting a good one or I don't know.

probably won't address the like control. that pixie's asking for um just to like. St St in it a little bit you would need. to look like what she's basically saying. is like probably when you look at the. lowest socioeconomic standard which. would be homeless individuals I. hate static people and I don't agree. with them okay um uh like. essentially this like lowest body group. essentially is probably mostly men but. the issue is that if you go up to like. just a slightly higher Group which would. be like single mothers there's probably.

disproportionately like way more women. there than there are even men in the. homeless stat so it's like it's hard to. quantify like who's more poor overall. because who's more homeless overall is. men who's more often like alone to raise. children well that's women um I think. that's the point she's getting at yes. okay thank you I would argue that. homelessness. is probably worse than just living in. poverty no you're you're not you're not. understanding my base argument um I'm. going to try to play with numbers here. to make it more clear um let's say. there's hundred H can I take a shot at.

it okay just to just to make sure we get. so you're saying that it could be. proportionate to the next socioeconomic. level so you're not sure if just showing. that there's a exra rate of homelessness. among men would really give us the full. picture yeah basically like if we had. let's say 100 homeless individuals and. 90 90 of those individuals are men yeah. that's obviously really really bad but. let's say you go up a scale and then. there's you know a thousand people in. low income and like you know 990 of.

those people are women well then that. shows like yeah there it's just like. stat basically that's what I'm. trying to get out yeah well I'm not. disagreeing with you but unless we have. you know said the empirical data we. can't even look at it so yeah I agree so. but but we can look at some other things. or maybe agree on some other intuitive. things yeah which is if we're moving. back into the kind of patriarchy. conversation you you say that the. patriarchy is hurting men and women yes. okay what is the.

patriarchy um so there's a lot of. different definition of p patriarchy the. way that I would personally Define it is. like a. system I I guess I would go back to like. yeah like a system of power that usually. places men in um dominant roles when it. comes to like leadership um when it. comes to just like Economic. Opportunity um just in general. throughout Society I think um what is it. the patriarchy also has like a lot of. like cultural components towards it that.

I think um even though it does put men. into power it is like I think in a lot. of ways detrimental to men's like Health. overall um so for example like in our. society um a lot of things that we. consider to be integral to being a. leader um I don't think actually follow. leadership and actually are like really. bad for the individual so this idea for. example um somebody who doesn't show. emotion like stoicism but to the extreme.

right um people often are like oh you. see that person that means that they're. so rational that means that they're so. logical because they're not showing any. emotion but that doesn't necessarily. mean that internally that's what's going. on right that's why you have like people. who go into like you know you You' never. know it but then they commit self-. deltion right stoicism something which. is considered preferable in a. leader I I would argue that our culture. as a whole yeah they see people who are. like like extreme stoicism emotionalist.

I'm not sure about that I think um I. think the way I would say like leaders. ship you would be looking at things like. Charisma Charisma would be a really big. one that would be something that people. would gravitate towards uh good decision. making confidence competence all of. those things I would kind of put in as. leadership skills I'm not sure that. people really gravitate towards extreme. stoicism the re the reason or a big Reas. or emotionalist in fact I think that car. the reason you call them charismatic. leaders right is because uh in.

leadership roles when people are very. charismatic they tend to have people. drawn and attracted let me phrase it. this way um do you think a person who. showcases sadness um do you think. Society in general would look down on. that person up in that person neutral to. that person depending on the situation. if if for instance um for men I think. that um the only time it's really. appropriate for them to cry is in. extreme cases so I always give the. example of like somebody Clos to you.

dies uh or a close personal friend dies. and that's basically it that's about the. only times that you're really allowed to. cry about anything um but there's good. reasons for that and one of the good. reasons for that is especially if you're. leader of a family right you don't. really want to be falling apart very. often and you do have to kind of hide. your emotions a bit so that you can lead. your family correctly your children look. up to you everybody looks up to you you. have to make sure that you're leading. the household in a correct way so that.

everybody has confidence in your. competence yeah I understand where. you're coming from and I do agree that. stability is like a good Showcase of. being a leader but then to me being able. to only cry when somebody dies to that. for me takes it to a little bit too much. of an extreme I think that there are. other scenarios that make sense for you. to cry well hang on let's let's focus on. the one thing at a time so let's just. take the the like over emotion or. whatever okay don't do you think that. men view women who cry very differently.

than how women view men who cry yes and. I think that's wrong yeah but she might. think that it's wrong right but could. there be a sense a biological sense of. reason for why that might be um I assume. that the argument you're going to get to. is that like oh um men are supposed to. be protectors and if a person's crying. can they protect you no I think that. it's actually different I think that. crying for women can also be a form of. self-defense and manipulation whereas. physical strength can't.

be I think that they often employ what. are. called old white man I disavow any. control over pixie she created her own. try rck I also disavow any oppression of. anyone and feel personally attacked you. know nothing of my work oh my gosh all. right you want to be my i' say that. there there's defense mechanisms which. are in play for both and so for men who. cry other men see it even at an. intuitive level we don't have any. respect for it it makes you more prone.

for attack and things like this uh. whereas for women they can often be. employed to Great use against men who. are much stronger sex whereas if you. were to take a look at this for how. women perceive other women who cry they. seem to be able to see through the. super quick right they're like. that is full of that chick is. full of you know I don't believe. her it's crocodile tears they seem to be. able to see right through it so I would. say that no I don't think it's just a. matter of your environment trains you.

what's okay to do when it comes to these. types of emotions but there there's. something which is ingrained yeah I. don't know like to what agree or what. level we will agree or disagree with. this on I think I do kind of strongly. disagree and I guess I strongly disagree. because I do think um human or emotions. I think are a very normal part of human. processing yeah I'm not saying that. they're not I don't mean to catch you. off go ahead I think emotions are a very. normal part of human processing and I. think part of that is like being like.

crying happiness sadness excitement. anger. um and I think in our society we punish. men when they show the sadness we we. view them as weak women punish them as. women punish them yeah I women if you. want to say we're going to if we're. going to go back to talking about the. patriarchy and stuff like that um women. definitely uphold the patriarchy I'm. saying is that it's not I'm not sure. that what you're talking about really as. a patriarchy is some kind of fundamental.

system or a bunch of people trying to. stay in power as much as it is the way. that humans actually interact with each. other because we're distinct. ontologically different creatures would. you say that it's maybe like a better. description cuz there were matriarchies. it was just like patriarchies. consistently out well there really. weren't ever matriarchies there were M. there were matriarchs but they really. all of their Force conditions for the. Monopoly on Force were still upheld by. men so this isn't totally true what we. actually see when you go back to like.

Paleolithic eras of like Homo sapiens is. that patriarchy was just more effective. at like coordinating War efforts like. they just killed every no in Paleolithic. societies especially you what you mostly. see are uh Chiefs and you see uh men who. are high level men you don't see. matriarchs so you did the problem is. that a lot you didn't you did you didn't. where okay name a culture uh I actually. don't know the names of any Paleolithic. culture specifically that do you know. that there was matriarchs in absolutely.

so like if you go so there's a really. good book I'd recommend it's called. sapiens that's by yal Harari and it. tracks basically the evolution of like. Homo sapiens psychology specifically. because we need to understand that like. for example a secular argument for. abrahamic religions is that it's been. bar nun the most evolutionarily. successful at setting up the best. societies ever which is why it's the. most dominant thing it's not this like. crazy evil thing the same thing with. patriarchies it's reasonable to to. presume especially when you get into. like these lost tribes and we do see.

matriarchies not as often but often. enough that they were lots of. matriarchies but the reality is that the. patriarchy was fundamentally a more. competitive organizational system let's. um let's grant for a second that even. that's true that there was matriarchies. within Paleolithic societies okay I'll. granted for the sake of argument in. recorded history of which there's about. 6 7,000 years there could be some things. pre that but we had like the Alexander. or the library Alexandria burned down so. we don't know we lost a lot okay so we.

don't really know how far back it goes. since this is true and we only can go. back about 7,000 years if you look at. that record there's not really any. matriarchies anywhere oh I agree I would. say like in it seems to be the case that. like when tribes were just forming to a. space where they were like family. competitors against one another that. seems to be where matriarchy dominantly. lost aren't inherently biolog like. patriarchy isn't inherently biological. it's just more competitive if since the. conditions have existed for societies.

actual societies the way that we. understand them which is not tribal. throw Spirit things anymore it hasn't. been for thousands of years we've had uh. the Coalition of societies we have not. seen that formula what. we've what we've seen and said is strong. a strong patriarch it everywhere. everywhere in the world basically at all. times sure is a lot less masculine than. we like to act like it is in many ways. like this is actually one of the my. biggest frustrations with feminists when. they talk about patriarchy is that the.

most successful patriarchies were. patriarchies that could socially. organize large groups of people and they. did so through the inventions of state. and the inventions of things like. religion these are fundamental to. coordinating people Beyond 2 I don't. understand how that's not masculine. because social coordination and social. cohesion and like making social groups. work is almost always attributed to. being a. feminine in literature it's not listen. who's organizing who's organizing. corporations who's in charge who's in. government all these these are all these.

are all orders for social organization. exactly because men are allowed to be. feminine and feminine and masculine. traits are both necessary flouring. societies wa wa you're saying that. you're only assigning it as being. feminine even though when we're looking. at the historic record doesn't seem like. it's feminine at all seems like it's a. very much a masculine trait to be able. to do Mass organization especially of. other men especially of other men a. thing of which you almost never see or. masculine organization I I don't know it. could be a neutral but I think I think.

together I think the way it's done is. mascul or feminine I think that the way. women could do it through forms of. manipulation backstabber secret telling. there's no way that women could do it in. like a neutral to positive way they can. but it's not often done that way I mean. that's not true if we look at family. line who's that one that like everyone. goes to when Grandma dies the family's. because she was like the main. person coordinating these things come. from a long line of strong women right. women are often social coordinators. who's most talking but we're talking.

about in society you're giving these. little tiny outliers for individual. family units we're talking about the. majority of society the majority of. human history that's recorded majority. the majority of societies were. completely and totally organized by men. and not only were they organized by men. but the way in which they were organized. which was with kind of the cracking of. the whip right here's what the Spartan. warriors are going to do here's what our. army is going to do the cracking of the. whip then you have a really bad. understanding of I'm not saying it was.

just anything I'm giving you an example. of how this is def not feminine trait I. feel like we're disagreeing on something. that we don't need to is it not possible. that most of the patriarchies which. dominantly run by men because men tend. to be more extreme at most Things. Incorporated both feminine and masculine. traits even though it was still a. patriarchy no I wouldn't can no I don't. think so I think that even here kind of. this the the semantic distinction needs. to be made no I don't think that. organization in massive Society is a.

feminine trait and I don't know how you. could convince me that it is okay. because we would talk about like the. fundamental traits if organization and. social cohesion and empathy are dominant. like like you can apply it to. masculinities if you want I don't give a. all this stuff is like socially. made and socially organized but when we. look back at history when like. literature talks about like the social. cohesion agent or the organizing agent. it's often times the women they're given. like nurturance role they're given in. like collection and like organization. roles why even in our society you see.

women hold on you got let me finish this. is why even in our society you see like. dominating HR one of the most important. human organization groups I got got to. push back again I I think that what. you're talking about here is support. roles so yes women are great in support. organizational roles but here's what. they're not great at they're not great. quarter Masters they're not great. equipment Masters they're not great at. organizing armies they're not great at. any of that what they are great is at. smaller tasks like pay masters. organizing for food organizing for.

cookware things like this though before. we you know could organize women to do. cooking uh basically the Roman Legions. would go around and actually collect. food themselves but what I'm saying to. you is that no I think that for smaller. tasks for support tasks yes nursing. things like this but I think that when. it comes to the overarching society and. how it's organized yeah I would say that. uh it's definitely definitely masculine. same thing churches organized Societies. in a big way you you cited that yourself.

those were basically always run by men. everywhere sure you think my position is. well I think that you're trying to say. that organization is a feminine trait. okay do you know the rest of I take with. that or is that the main part well I. mean this is what we're arguing. over sort of we're arguing about. masculinities and femininities that's. what we're talking about but you're. you're saying that mass organization is. more of a female or a you know feminine. I didn't say Mass organization I said.

organizing People based on social. structures is dominantly more feminine. it seems to be more feminine tra because. not because women do it more often it's. exclusively do you know what the word. means I'm sorry if I'm being a super. nerdy and it's okay if you don't it's. like a really obscure word okay AR was. this concept in the Greek that was like. it's this idea of like the most. important cultural value and the way. that we tend to like look at cultures is. by what their literature writes about. when you look at the literature when it. comes to like social connection social. organization and social glue factors.

typically that the literature that. societ is based on puts women in that. role dominantly while as things like. protectiveness protectiveness leadership. is often where men that would be. something that we would call a. masculinity yeah but the leadership and. mass organiz what I'm this is exactly. what I'm saying in fact so you're. talking about Minor support rules for. organization you're talking about things. like nursing and child things like this. but when you're doing actual.

organization of men I'm talking about. forms for which forms I'm talking about. like platonic forms why would you say. platonic forms and then and then look at. modern civilization that's what you just. cited sorry I I think I lost you there. when I'm saying I'm looking at platonic. forms you're saying like yeah but women. do this role and I'm saying that's not. what I'm talking about I'm talking about. the emergent themes that societies. ascribe to masculinity versus feminity. I'm telling you that those themes in. line with masculinity definitely have to. do with the roles of massive armies and.

the organization of those massive armies. the organizations of churches the. organizations of building of. infrastructure the organizations of all. not masculinities these are not forms. these are things that men are doing in. the patriarchy when we're talking about. masculinity we're talking about. character traits typically we're talking. about things like protectiveness. leadership aggression assertiveness is. typically associated with masculinity. whereas with femininity it's typically. empathy right um uh nurturance these are. things that are attached into these you.

can pop these with like this is how I. attribute these things fine but what I'm. saying is that as a matter of record it. is not the case that women really are. the ones organizing anything in society. so if that's just the point that you. want to uh add that as a feminine trait. fine I'll concede it just to move the. conversation on literally my but but. when it's mapped on to reality that not. always in the leadership and they always. more so when we go back to the point. then and we're talking about when the. men feels bad and the woman feels bad.

and how women and men both you know. interact with how men and women feel bad. you can see why there'd be a distinction. for how women judge men and how men. judge men and why that would be. necessary that men do show a bit less. emotion probably a lot less emotion that. also one thing I found here in this. podcast every single episode I've. watched this question usually gets asked. do you want a more dominant man or a. less dominant man and you know what they. all say I want a more dominant man and I.

want him to show less emotion and I want. to show more leadership which is what. you were saying and more virtues which. is what you were saying that's what they. all say sure and I would agree with. basically all of that the point that I. was trying to make is what tends to make. people like when we look at the most. respect worthy people um I'm not sure if. there's any like historical figures that. you look up to necessarily like Jesus is. Napoleon. Bon you just picked him because he's. short okay you're trying to dig it in um. on on this thread if you guys can make.

uh like your each one of fin keep. we got some more juicy stuff though so. uh if you just if you can make your. final points on this we'll talk about. drama after I promise okay um basically. what I'm saying is if we look at like. some of the most respect worthy. characters that we look up to something. like Jesus for example I Think Jesus is. a great example for men to try to embody. Jesus has both got tons of masculine. traits and feminine traits and I think. one of the most harmful things that. feminism has often done not just. feminism but like the way that we've.

engaged with genders specifically is. describing like men can only be. masculine and women can only be feminine. it's like no healthy people tend to. blend both of these things and that's. what makes you good which means like. it's okay if men say like yeah social. coordination with people is a little bit. more feminine it's just fine you're. allowed to be like feminine and Excel at. something that's fine yeah so some. agreement and then Mass disagreement so. first of all these traits that we're. talking about are arbitrary so they like. if you're talking about courage wisdom. things like this can I pause I'm so. sorry when you say arbitrary could you.

just make sure that I understand what. you're saying there's no real system for. it. there's no real system in order for. doing this other than like maybe. subjective observations other than like. what Society emerges right the system is. what societ you could say yeah you could. say maybe something emergent but since. there is no courage is not masculine nor. feminine right but we look to the. extremes so what we're saying is is that. we see it most often here we see it most. often there we see it most often with. the that's why we assigned the traces. way so hang on let me I just let you go.

just go okay so what I'm saying is that. in this particular case when we're. looking at what I would consider to be. masculine traits in the patriarchy and. things like this the reason that men. probably should be very cautious about. showing too much emotion is because on. the other end for those feminine traits. they punish them greatly for doing it. and I don't blame them I don't blame. them I don't blame women no because I. have as little respect for those men as.

women do so well. sorry sorry we do we do have to move on. but we got some more fair yeah we we got. some more interesting stuff uh Pixie. were you able to answer I think you. wanted to give an example of how you. were oppressed um oh well I was going to. ask you if you can first. Define oh my gosh wait hold on just. donated. $200 panel equality or Equity equality. equal access to opportunity Equity. opportunity based on circumstance sex do.

you hire lesbian p with 3.5 GP or white. male with 4.0 GPA okay jerson from. 2016 way thank you by the way modest. thank you for doing that during like a. little transition period I I appreciate. it glad that we didn't cut anybody off. but thank you man appreciate it um yeah. you want me to Define oppression yeah. because it seems like every single time. that we start gole can we google it I. mean I just yeah we can use defition uh. Pro well the first one that comes up.

prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or. control also the state of being subject. to unjust treatment or control so I'd. say both. and I would say both and that we could. probably all agree both and could you. just scoot your mic that way just to. time so like I think probably you would. agree to both one and two yeah I I think. um both are forms of both are. definitions of Oppression for sure are. those satisfactory yeah I'm just. confused because earlier on in the. conversation we were talking about like.

unjust treatment between women or like. how this can be one example or another I. felt like you were saying like oh but is. that really oppression and it's like. yeah if it's an unjust treatment or at. least what we perceive to be unjust. maybe there's a deeper conversation. there then it would fall under the. category like when I think of Oppression. it typically comes from like some like. systematic oppression is that what you. mean like it's an institution if. something unjust happens to me it's not. clear if I'm being oppressed because you. could have some unjust thing occur to. you in a romantic relationship that.

doesn't mean you're you're oppressed. typically it's it seems like some sort. of top down oppression so you're saying. it has to be structural that's why I'm. trying to clarify cuz so well no it. could be mult multiple so it could be. structural right that could be a way. that it's done yeah but it could be. group based that doesn't have like a big. massive structure so like I would say. gang activity would be oppressive. rightor donated. $200 well there's dominance and. authority and diplomacy and empathy.

which shouldn't be confused. well put we'll put St R stupid so I. guess whatever your sense of Oppression. is I guess um what how do you feel. you're oppressed and we won't linger. here too long but okay um I think in at. least an Institutional level there has. been like multiple studies conducted. where it seems that it's regardless of. your qualifications regardless if you're. even like more qualified for a position. if you have like a female sounding name. or a female looking name or whatever um.

you are less likely to be seen as. competent or less likely to be hired for. the job compared to your male I'm just. curious who conducted those studies was. it a feminist studies program that. already that had already determined what. the answer to the study would be before. conducting stud how most studies are. conducted of course wait that happens. all the time you go in with a bias and. you're seeking to confirm whole point of. at least the studies that I'm citing. right is that in general you have the.

experimental design right right where. they decide like okay how are we going. to measure this okay we're going to put. um let's say two resumés um one more. qualified than the other we're going to. blank the names and then see like which. ones the professors pick over and over. again right or which ones the professors. lean more towards now we're going to. give them the same sample or the same. studies a little bit later um but we're. going to unblank the names and then if. they're picking the ones that are like. male more despite before doing that. reverse well that does show like some. level of bias okay um Saint uncore easy.

donated. $200 how is it stupid somebody with you. I stupid I laughed and said stupid oh. being like there's four words it's like. yeah that's not I guess what's happening. in that study let's assume that it's. that study is valid is it. actually applicable to what's going on. in the real world and also I guess a. Counterpoint to that is well what about. affirmative action because that that. seems that that's something that is.

actually happening that is proven. happening yeah so to my understanding. like affirmative action when it usually. takes place it's like you have two um. what is it two resumés that are equally. qualified and then one like goes to like. the minority group basically um that. isn't represented in your company enough. or whatever um do women benefit from. affirmative action um they have in the. past but I think it's been like. overstated how much they benefit by um. basically at least from the stuff I've.

read like even if you have like a person. or company that's saying like oh yeah. like we're pro affirmative action like. that's what we want that's what we're. going to do that doesn't necessarily. translate to reality um you can see this. a lot in like stem or engineering jobs. where you do have women who are like in. these like highly qualified fields or. positions um that are still seen as like. less competent than their counterparts. or in addition to this if you want to. talk about other systems of Oppression. um if you want to see like what rates. why women drop out of said stem field. stem said stem said stem job um a lot of.

it does correlate to like sexual. harassment in the field or the chances. of them being like again like diminished. because of their sex so it doesn't like. that's another form I guess that you can. argue about oppression that even in. highly qualified Fields women are still. more likely to experience um sexual. harassment or demeaning to their. counterparts but but isn't it also true. that sexual harassment that men. experience goes far less reported than. the sexual harassment that women.

experience yes but even we're talking. like pure numbers wise it seems like. just in these fields in general um the. more men that you have in a field the. more likely a woman in that field is. going to get like sexually herass yeah I. mean but that's just that's just the. odds of addition right so every new man. that you add in increases the the. chances that something like that will. happen yeah but then it also seems that. like when the numbers are like 50/50 or. whatever women like 50 50 male 50 women. women are still reporting even like in.

private surveys right like let's just. say like anonymous survey data like. that um higher rates of sexual. harassment than men even though it's. that could easily be offset by the fact. that men report that they're sexually. harassed far less yeah but we're not. we're not talking about like official uh. they don't need to be official they. still report it less even if it's not. official men a part of the issue is that. men often don't see something as. sexually harassing that a woman would. right so like a lot of women will make. like weird comments about a guy's ass or. something like that um and they wouldn't.

necessarily PR sexual harass but a woman. might so that there's there's a really. big issue in like subjective reporting. when it comes to like who's going to. report what CU most men will probably. not want to report but you would agree. with me that if the same behavior that a. woman does to a man and a man does to a. woman which the woman would perceive or. most women would perceive as sexual. harassment or saay uh or not saay sexual. harassment and then the flip side to. that is that if that same behavior is.

given to towards a man he just doesn't. perceive it that way that doesn't mean. it isn't right oh I I fully agree with. you there's a really interesting study. actually about um I think it was the CDC. who was talking about like one and three. women have experienced like sexual. assault or something like that but when. you actually looked at the study when. they asked men um they didn't include. for men that if a woman forcibly sits on. you while you're erect that that is. considered sexual assault and so when. they actually updated that it turned out. that the rates of sexual assault between. both genders was a lot closer because.

men were like I had no idea that that. was sex so I was just going to like well. I mean now so that would necessarily go. far less reported then inside of all of. these types of things so when you're. talking about this I can kind of really. point to Something in in this control. that would be very difficult for you to. compensate for which is how do you. control for that okay even if I grant. you that right there does seem to be. like when it comes to um what is it like. let's say other forms of like sexual. discrimination whether it's like rates. of promotion um or just straight up just.

as like competency it does seem that. just having like a male sounding name. does give you a yeah but I got a. reputation for this too and this is. something that I found uh there was very. similar studies done on black hiring. versus white hiring right and so here's. what they found if you sent in a name. that had like a black sounding name. versus a white sounding name they would. look at the um you know the the names of.

the the white people more than the black. sounding Nam. okay so that kind of rolls into the same. type of thing that you're talking about. but here's what was interesting about. the controls for that study what they. didn't do is send do the experiment in. reverse and send in the black sounding. name and then the like low class white. sounding names like Bubba Cletus things. like that had they introduced that. control the study would maybe have been. completely different so this same. control apparatus might apply here when. you're talking about female names versus.

male names names there could be that. there's a lot of low class sounding. female names and they used far more of. those than they did you know the uh uh. higher class mail sounding names for. instance or something like this so. unless I saw the control I'd never be. able to determine that just like they. didn't introduce the control the other. way in the uh racial studies yeah well. put I do have to move it on. um I had I had a question um in our last.

uh. if I recall going to you and we'll open. this to the entire panel. here dating podcast by the way. um well actually that I feel like that's. probably really pertinent oh not not. that conversation you're having but what. I'm about to get into um oh no this is. is a politics podcast I guess uh I I. don't want to misquote you but if I. recall I think you said that you cannot. be sexist against men is that is that.

correct um and you can't be racist. against white people o yeah so when we. when we came to the understand the. mutual understanding wellit you you got. to hear this. one go ahead go ahead go ahead go. ahead go ahead um we came to the mutual. understanding of like the definition of. racism and sexism in this context so. um it it was um Power and what was that.

word that you had used you saying. Prejudice well so so prej that that. wasn't my definition but we provided. that because you were seeking the. definition of uh sexism is Prejudice. plus power or racism is Prejudice plus. power the clarification that was given. to your question so your question was. well how do you see it Brian said I see. it as uh Prejudice plus power is then. then is that what you mean and you said. yeah that's what I mean okay I don't.

agree with that definition though but. okay well then and I appreciate you for. you know providing that definition. because I think it's a good one when. we're talking about sexism and racism in. this context I think that you know. people can have prejudices like a white. person or a black person can have. prejudice against white people as a. matter of fact they do have prejudice. against white people because you know. it's generational like that so but here. I'll just ask the questions and you I. guess you can say yes or no can you be. racist against a white. person no can you be sexist against men.

no okay I want to go around the table on. this because why not but I will come. back to that pixie your answer yeah you. can be racist towards white people and. you can totally be sexist towards men. okay or actually let's hold on I'm going. to ask you to actually I'll ask you go. ahead I don't really feel you can be. racist towards white people but I feel. like. you Prejudice towards men not only feel. you can be pre sexist against. men yeah yes but you can't be racist.

against white people. I mean I feel like there's probably like. extreme examples but it's just I just. don't feel comfortable feel like with. that I don't feel like I feel like that. word holds so much weight that is harder. for a white person to experience but. there's definitely probably like. situations okay what about. you I think you. can can you be racist against white. people can you be sexist against. men that's a hard question you can be. sexist towards.

men towards men. okay yes and. um can you be racist against white. people no okay uh Alexa what about you. yes to both yes to both sexist uh Nala. can you be racist against white people. can you be sexist against men um you. cannot I mean yes you can be racist. towards white people I think it goes. with anyone ethnically um sexist towards.

men AB absolutely absolutely what about. you yeah obviously yes wait can I change. my answer can you change your answer uh. what's your new answer based on the. consensus of the table what was your. original answer you can't be what change. your answer how I think I think you can. be racist towards white people I think. obviously it it really depends on what. sure now my follow-up question is for. those of you who said no to either um.

wouldn't it be. racist Andor sexist to Simply state that. you cannot be racist against a white. person or that you cannot be sexist. against. men I think it's just a perspective I. because I don't mean I don't but you. okay if you say you can't be racist. against white people you are saying that. white people do not face any sort of. discrimination or Prejudice due to their. race Ergo you've made some sort of.

judgment call about white people which. to me would be racist so that type of. judgment made towards white people. wouldn't be one of like a bias and in. judging of their character so the way. that I'm envisioning uh racism in you. know in this example. is um having biases and then having. those biases or okay having biases.

against the character simply because of. race and then having those biases impact. these groups of people on a systemic. basis or level um so me thinking that. people or you can't be racist to white. people it's just it's not saying that. you can't be prejudiced against white. people because I already stated that I. think black people and other people of. color do have a lot of prejudice against. white people I think that exists but I. don't think that at least in America.

from what I understand in America. America um white people are not. oppressed systemically and they do not. experience systemic racism what about. white women I thought you said earlier. you said women were oppressed so. so a little confused because of their. race they are oppressed because of their. gender so there's a lot of. intersectional issues and they kind of. overlap like a white uh disabled person. can be oppressed because they're. disabled so intersectionality yeah um.

yes do you have like a explanation when. it comes to why you think you can't be. racist against white people I mean cuz. it's kind of like just like what she was. saying like it's systemic against other. races like with white people it's like. people think you're corny or like. certainly I feel like this like the the. type of things you're going to face are. going to be more like in social. situations versus like if your person of. color goes down way deeper than just. social situations it's systemic okay. um.

so. and was it just you who thinks I think. you said you could be sexist you can be. sexist against men. correct or I thought it was just you so. I think it might have been just me I. don't did I say you could be sexist. towards men can can you be sexist. against. men I mean. like actually yes now I think about it. yes now that I think of examples yes so. wait question people say men can't get. raped and like that which I think. is really can't see wa you wait you.

think me hold on when people say that I. think that's an awful thing to say. that's that was the thing in my head you. think it's awful for people to say that. wait I'm a little confused do you get. ESS and stuff like do you believe that. men can't get ESS no they can they. definitely can and they do um that's. fine so I have a question so can a can a. black person they can't be racist. against a white. person like it there probably that's for. both of you yeah Prejudice could a.

could a Latino person be racist against. a white. person no can an Asian person be racist. against a white. person can oh so okay can for this. conversation are you saying. asian-americans despite being minorities. have I feel like we're power in and I. can only speak on in the US like okay. well okay well there are Asian Americans. and Latino Americans black Americans but.

okay can blacks be racist. can black people be racist against Asian. people I think it's a different type of. racism because black people do not have. the power to um uphold that racism. against Asian people the most it would. be would be a bias or a colorism you. realize how racist that is to say right. totally just to say black people can't. do anything like it's. like what like I'm sorry what's is there. something genetically off with black. people that they like can't manage to.

like navigate like where's this line of. reasoning go it's so racist to be like. black people cannot I know that you're. talking about like a group but it's just. like bigotry of low expectation is still. racism it's still a problem it's not. okay yeah and I understand that point um. but I don't think that's what I'm trying. to say and I apologize if I'm saying it. wrong um or like in a way that is not. effectively communicating what I am. trying to say white I'm sorry black. people are capable of doing things like.

duh and just because they are I mean. like oh I know that's what I'm. saying oh my gosh um are okay are. Latinos cap are are Asian can Asian. people be racist against black people. I'm going to say yes because cult it's. interesting that you're quicker to say. that Asians can be racist against black. people but black people can't be a. racist against Asians that's interesting. because that's because of the level of. information that I have um and or.

knowledge that I have. um but I do think I don't know if I. would call it racist from what I. understand it is more colorist so um. Asian people from what I understand. again um have cultural biases that lead. them to prefer fairer skin culturally. and you know um they have more maybe. respect for fairer skin than darker Skin. So if you notice like in Asian culture. um the lower income people or. communities I guess have darker skin.

tones and then the wealthier communities. have fair skin. tones like they s like skin beaching. products and certain things yeah so. that's more colorist it's you know more. based on like the. actual instead of the race itself it's. just the color cuz you're like a dark. Asian person is still. Asian just to ask you the same okay just. to ask you the same question like do can. black PE can a black person be racist. against a white person cuz I feel like.

it's like if a a white person is being. racist towards a black person it's like. the reason like. when like okay like when she was talking. about like in uh like how Asian people. like there's the colorism in the. communities where their skin bleaching. and it's kind of seen as more attractive. to be fair like obviously as a black. person if you see that in their culture. like you can kind of assume that same. logic is going to apply onto you so I'm. not saying that justifies racism but I'm. saying I feel like the basis of like. black people being you know maybe. wanting to date within their race is. because they've seen Maybe people of um.

wher Asian families having very racist. parents or you know fetishizing them or. certain things versus like the reason. that they might be more um like hesitant. to to do that see like the reason for it. is like not just some random General. hate it's because of the racism they've. experienced themselves it's like a. defense thing can I ask a question can a. black person be racist towards an Asian. person I mean yeah yeah yeah but what.

who has the institutional. power I feel like definitely like Asian. people more they would have the. institutional power which institutions. which institutions do you think that. Asians are over represented in in and. and have the power and are using that. power to systemically oppress black. people I mean I agree with you that I. feel like a black person could be racist. against a Asian person but I feel like. they just yeah but if the argument is. whites can't be or uh blacks can't.

racist to whites because whites have the. institutional systemic power okay then. in this case I say can blacks be racist. towards Asians you say yes but then when. I ask you who has the power you say that. people have the systemic power in that. situation the Asians so how come they. can be racist to the. Asians but can't be racist to the wh if. one has the power in one scenario versus. the other one hang on hang on just hear. me out if one has the power in one.

scenario they could be racist towards. them and if they another one has a power. in the same exact scenario they can't be. racist that makes no sense it's a. perform hang on hang on hang on I'm. almost done it's a performative. contradiction it's an actual. contradiction in real time that you just. showed us what you should do. immediately after seeing that has. abandoned that entire worldview it makes. no. sense I mean I feel like I guess the. reason I guess we would say Prejudice. instead of racist is I feel like it's. just kind of like like we.

like what here or did you have more. Andrew or no I think that's enough okay. um here's a question um let's say me as. a white man right privilege male. privilege White Privilege okay the way. they like to stop Asian hate on Tinder. and stuff so quickly when it took so. long they passed a bill for that like. that when Co happened and like how long. did it take for them to do that like or. I don't think they've even done that for. black people like that's kind of an. example for them having more systemic. power they like a stop Asian hate Bill.

very. quickly I'm not familiar with the I I. heard about the bill but um if I went to. if I went to uh. China would. uh in that scenario can I can a a. Chinese person be racist against me. store easy donated. $200 black PPA can be racist against. white PPA but being racist isn't. beneficial in most Industries and in a.

capitalist society as a whole racism. isn't exactly a powerful trait maybe an. entertainment it's not even that. powerful there um so if I went to China. would in that scenario could the Chinese. people be racist against me if there. have been. um Nick can you hide that you can reach. higher on the wall so.

no. honestly I'm not 100% sure because like. I said I really only have a somewhat of. an understanding about racism in America. and honestly that's coming from a white. but so in. China all posi positions I would assume. all positions in the government are. occupied by people who are Chinese I. don't suspect there are any white people. any for example in the US there's. probably there's some asian-americans in. Congress there's any but let's just say. the vast vast majority.

what city you go to wait so that has I. think it has more to do with um. nationality so like there's all Chinese. people in the and the Chinese government. because it's China like does that and. like we only have Amer most a poor. argument on my does wait so do do. Chinese people or Asian people as a race. only exist in the United States if they. exist in the United States that's now. when they're considered race or are they. considered a race also well then if.

they're considered a race there too and. you're still considered a race in China. too then if the Chinese have all the. insti power and they are racially. profiling or doing any number of then. that would be racist right yes okay. perfect so okay if I went to China can. and became a resident in China and like. had a. life visit so let's say let's say there. wait so I have to be you you need to the. Turn Style you went right through the.

turn style and the second the second you. did they were like hey round ey or. something like that and you were like. what and something overtly crazy like. that right that would be would that be. considered from from racism towards you. so you're saying white people can't be. racist towards like illegal immigrants. for example no I just think it's. different like in the US I'm saying like. a Mexican uh illegal immigrant you. couldn't be racist towards them because. they're not a citizen of no you can't I. think I think but so if I go I go go to.

China I go to China I'm a white man can. the could I experience racism in China. from I assume Chinese people I'm going. to give you. an place if there's social structures in. place that perpetuate that then yes um. okay okay I was going to say what about. you do you think I think you could yeah. I mean like I don't know what it too. much about what it is like out there but.

I definitely believe that they could. yeah if you're you're a minority and. over there if what about if I went to. Kenya if I went if I went to. Kenya okay so you the answer would be. yes if you have like a work visa there. right and you're applying to jobs and. you're not or. you're you're trying to work there and. you're getting continuously rejected. from jobs or mistreated in jobs simply. because you're white then yes that would. be an experence what if I'm just a.

tourist let's say. in the Middle East like okay let's say. when me and my friends who are like my. friends who are white come right we go. out to the club and there's a bunch of. Arab people there or whatever right and. a White Guy starts smoking hookah and. the the Arab guys start like you know. just chatting at him like oh well you. know they're being rap like they're like. you're white you can't smell you're you. know blah blah blah like saying that. that's not because he's trying to work. there blah blah blah it's literally just.

because he's there he's there you feel. me like I think that's what you know. okay so I think that it definitely comes. with the the the definition that we've. been or that we kind of talked about. brushed up up brushed up upon the racism. that I'm mostly referring to and trying. to you know Place emphasis on is. systemic and is coming from a place of. power or um yeah a place of power and. majority um. in majority for it to be power.

though not necessarily I'm just saying. so then if one person is racist if one. person of a group is racist that means. like what is that what you're trying to. say like if only one like person that. doesn't mean the whole group is racist. no that's not what I'm trying to say. okay you're trying to say I think she's. trying to like say that she's trying to. like speak of system Sy systemic oh my.

God RM but we're talking about can you. just can one like can can a group be. racist towards another group that's. literally the question. can other races be racist towards a. white person period not in any sort of. situation just in general in general if. you were to go let's say you want to go. to Tokyo all right and you were walking. around could they be racist towards. you.

store easy donated. $200 okay Brian we get it enjoy your. white male privilege well all right. there you have it thank you thank you. say re here we got another chat wait so. was that a yes or a no that was a yes. okay okay all right we'll move we'll. move on we'll move on uh hold on we got. a couple more things guys I'm going to. just pull up this chat here while it's. it's kind of relevant today is the only. time so many 1centers have claimed to be.

a I'm 32 in biotech make six figures. without a degree been homeless and beat. cancer good for wow dude you're. Legend thank you Joshua uh B he's also. by can be small spoon. hello celebrated one year anniversary. with woman in stem blond is. indoctrinated and dumb yeah don't shoot. the messenger that's his words I disavow. disavow I think a lot of words are. coming I think a lot of what she's. trying to say is getting l lost and you.

know and sometimes when you're on the. spot something come out wrong did last. show did you say that white people don't. have culture no I the that was the other. girl does anyone here think white people. do you think white people don't have. culture what the do you mean by. hold on no. no I mean like. there I there's white well there's like. a million different types of white. people so yeah of course there's but. I've often heard this I mean Andrew was. on the show uh two days ago I think.

we've heard this frequently uh that. there was like four of them who said. that that say white people don't. have oh I saw that do you have you well. no well does anybody agree with that. just show up hands I don't understand. what the what what do you mean by white. do black people have culture do white. people have culture I don't know what. you mean by white culture okay cuz let. me put I'm going to put it this way I'm. going to put it very simple right the. only reason why we have this concept of. like black culture is because it came. from like a very unique set of.

circumstances in the United States that. yes like for they all came from a very. unique me finish my sentence Andrew. please thank you okay so for example. like black culture in the United States. basically a lot of it originates from. like slav like slavery breaking out the. SST oppression then like Jim Crow. basically like a whole bunch of cultur. surrounding that specifically um some. people when they say white culture what. they're referring to is like European. culture which sure I can grant that but. the through the United States like the.

concept of white has changed a lot so. for example there was a certain point in. time where Irish people weren't. considered white where Italians weren't. considered white where Germans weren't. considered white so it seems like in the. United States in particular this concept. of white culture has like just like kept. on like increasing or adding on so it's. like even now you see it with Latinos. where they're saying like oh no like you. know like Latinos are white you know as. well so it just seems like this concept. of like white Co I'm Hispanic by the way. but that's like a whole other side what. is say their white I'm my family saying.

that yeah but there are people saying. that so the whole point is like this. idea of like white culture in the United. States it's like a very weird and. complicated question I think if somebody. says oh yeah there is white culture like. look at European culture like those. people aren't really claiming themselves. as white first like you go to the UK. they're going to say like no I'm like. British first um or French like they're. going to say like no I'm French not. white per se so that's why I'm kind of. confused about the question itself so. white American or like is that it's.

white American can you say American. culture in the context of white can you. say that there's a white American. culture yeah I I would agree with that. that's why I was just asking the. clarifying question cuz I wasn't sure. like you can go European you can go. American but there's still white culture. in multiple facets okay I could give a. hot take that I think everyone will hate. me for if you guys bring it bring it. yeah let's hear it okay so uh I think. the reason why Liberals are often so. hesitant to admit that there's a white. culture is because it's like the. dominant cultural hedgemon that. basically we just say these are good.

traits in a person and it's actually. like kind of this weird form of like. white supremacy where we like dismiss. anything as being white culture cuz they. like no that's just a good thing and. it's like it yeah cultures can have good. things in them but it's also. white like being like really into like. certain types of like like uh yoga and. avocado toast with. your California like thing this like. hyper Obsession for example with like. kind of like Protestant work ethic this. isn't to say that other cultures don't. have like orientations like for example.

like the Chinese culture has a very. intense work ethic culture but it has a. completely different background in the. way that it plays out like our obession. with work ethic in White America is just. part of white culture but when I say. that most white Liberals are like well. black people work hard too and it's like. black people can just participate in. white cultural norms that's fine we just. don't think white culture exists because. we don't want to admit that it's the the. cultural Hedon meaning like the most. common culture sorry okay okay all right. and it's white supremacist so then yes.

so then the answer would be yes there's. white culture white culture yeah okay. all right well we won we don't got to. get too far on that we have Samantha. Savage thank you Brian would you return. the money if you had bankrupted a viewer. through super chats can TTS be a form of. fom as you will only hear somebody's. statement if they pay for you whoa am I. engaged in Sor. whoa my god um I do think it's a bit. different though it's certainly a bit. different what if they're masturbating. while they're paying.

you don't know like you how like Mone. they spend to women they no no no when. you're talking about how like these guys. are like gross and pathetic like I'm 99%. sure there's a guy donating me like yes. there's someone in the right now like. pillow between his legs everyone shut up. quiet tell me more tell me Daddy they do. they do the uh AI a gal face right. you're getting. close. demonstration.

we're getting a little demo. or oh my God okay I'm sorry I'm sorry. Chad that was DN. you iic any chance you get all rightly. the viewer number increases by like 500. we have Nickelodeon I get it now. Blondie's an AI robot that only has. liberal tweets to draw her knowledge and. responses from I don't have Twitter. actually she doesn't have Twitter also. that's leftist not liberal just to be. clear all right I want to claim the. Liberals we're based and cool all right. I mean no but we're based you can still.

you can still have them there you have. it um oh okay uh wait okay last thing. with you so the last time you were on. did you I think I asked you what do you. think of men did I ask that question um. I don't think you asked me that or you. asked me do I hate men I said I hate. patriarchal. structures um. okay yeah it's okay pretty I don't hate. men I find myself quite fond of them. okay all right no that's fine that's.

fine all right uh let's get into some uh. juicy stuff here all right you're going. to bring up TR stuff again aren't you. yeah finally so I have a couple. questions then I'll let you guys store. easy donated. $200 I wonder which side Brian would be. on in the American Civil War I'm not. American but I know enough about. American culture to know that didn't. really. fly I'm confused is he saying I'd be a. Confederate is that he's asking which. side would you be on.

uh I would be on the the the the the. union like the anti-slavery side yeah. the union you're such a good. liberal yeah slavery is. bad I feel like we all agree wait Andrew. hold you disagree andreag Andrew was. shaking his head and disagree you think. was good oh wait maybe I'll know if we. want to go well I because you're shaking. your head no when he was saying slavery. was bad so I was curious well so no I. mean I would have taken the other side. but had nothing to do with slavery so.

what does it have to do oh God okay I. don't know they will say state rights. but states rights to do. what well State's rights to be Sovereign. to own slaves okay the number one thing. assume for a second that the states all. wanted to to become sovereign because. they looked up and they didn't like the. shape of the Union clouds right and so. that's why they rebelled would that have. been okay that would have been much more. okay than so why would that have been.

okay what whatever the reason is for why. they wanted sovereignty they could be. wrong in the reasons but still right in. wanting the sovereignty absolutely not. if you want sovereignty so that you can. get away with human rights abuses like. your Sovereign no no you didn't. even hear what I said yeah you're saying. the reasons don't matter why listen to. my question again can a person have the. wrong reasons why they want to do the. right thing yeah but that's not answer. my question yes but that's not what. asking so in this case I can admit and. fully say nope I'm against slavery.

slavery is bad and I don't think that. they should have rebelled over or that. should have been the Crux of the. reasoning and I don't even think it was. but assuming that it was you could still. say yeah that's bad that they wanted to. remain retain that institution but if. they wanted to break away from the union. that's not bad do you think it's bad but. I'm still going to do. it that's not what I'm saying we should. good reasons there can be good reasons. for civil war and bad reasons for civil. war and we can denounce a civil war for.

bad reasons and be like yeah this is a. good Civil War and then there can be. good reasons that you know they had. which were Justified remember that in. the north right there was a copperhead. movement to try to get slavery abolished. because the union itself did not want to. let them go so like it's really not as. easy as you seem to think it is no I'm. pretty sure that if we go to like. basically every single um Declaration of. Independence during that time when those. States every single every yeah no like. basically each state when they were. suceeding from the union had a little.

declaration where they're like this is. why we were seceding from the union and. every single one of them mentioned the. right to own slaves I'm not joking we. can pull this up right now so here's the. thing though again I can I can see. you're liberal ass said some silly stuff. uh Andrew make a final point and then. I'm going to move away from the Civil. War there was so my suggestion is that. you can go watch a guy named Ryan Dawson. who gives a complete breakdown of this. he's a brilliant historian when it comes.

to the Civil War he says that there's. tons of socioeconomic reasons that were. behind it that had nothing at all to do. with slavery and that the north didn't. even want slaves to go which is. absolutely true and the list goes on and. on and on highly suggest that you inform. yourself a little bit better on it okay. and then my final statement. yeah you're pro at the point at this. point in time um especially when the. Civil War was about to start and the. union seemed to be a very strong. agreement that slavery had to go was in.

the process of going while you know what. the other Confederate states were like. hell no we have to keep this institution. no matter what and you know what you can. like literally go read every single. state that's seceded from the Union the. reasons why they did it and all of them. the number one reason they mentioned was. yes we believe that we should be able to. still own slaves stop it stop it get. some help okay let's get back into the. juicy stuff okay. so I think this is this is bringing it. back to so sort of like the you with.

what is a woman you said it's oh. gosh back to that someone who identif. Okay okay so I have a couple questions. and then I'll just let you guys get into. it so question this is related to dating. okay I'm going to relate it to dating. and then if you guys want to get into. the the weeds or whatever that's fine. say idology my first question is uh to. you pixie yes is a transgender woman a. female um biologic ically no okay.

anybody else okay um all right that's. out the way uh okay we got the okay um. so can a male become a female um if. you're talking about pure biology no if. we're talking about social construction. then yeah what are you talking about men. and women I'm I'm confused male fale. okay okay so we're keeping this to. straight we're actually biology I'm. talking sex not gender okay then yeah no.

okay uh question so relating it to. dating now uh. if if a man Sor excuse me hold on I got. to use a precise terms if a male was no. actually well. okay hold on I'm trying to think the. best way this is very confusing your. word right it's very confusing uh a male. was who who uh is not transgender MH uh. was.

sing the D of a transgender woman who. has a penis so and you see a video I. don't know. what sucking the pen okay okay choking I. don't know what I don't know what other. giving the swall there you goo. thank gugug. 9000 yes so you were selling one of. those right sorry oh God that's another. that's another that's a whole another. conversation. so.

uh would that be would it be gay I'm I'm. kind of lost a plot after. the suck a trans woman's dick is it kind. of gay oh is that gay I think that's up. to the individual to basically decide. their orientation I think a lot of. people and I would probably be of the. opinion that like you know I think. genatalia is more directly related to. like sexual orientation but I'm not. going to be like hey no but it's Megan. Fox it's Megan Fox looks looks like.

Megan Fox it's a transgender woman that. look that's just as physically. attractive as Megan Fox but has like. just a a p just a be Matthew Fox and a. guy is just luck luck 9,000 thank you's. going on here thank you n honestly I'm. not sure I feel like would it be gay I'm. curious okay let me can I can I ask you. a similar question because this is. you're asking me a question I'm asking. you a question why has to answer your.

question no no no no because I'm trying. to get I'm trying to get a framework. here I know you want to come in you. could just you think it would be. straight yeah um for a man to basically. um do the licky Li I don't. know on a Hulk Hogan who has a. vagina sorry so when you say Hulk Hogan. it's a female that looks like but just. it's like everything no like it looks. literally hetosexual. that would beight more.

gay only if the term doesn't sucking. Megan Fox's dick is a little gay but. it's less gay than sucking Joe Rogan's. based on what just some arbitrary. analysis how they look how they look. just entirely how they look based if. you're sucking a dick and grabbing a. titty it's a little bit less gay than if. you're sucking a dick and grabbing chest. hair you know no but it it's when he. says gay means. homosexual I what I know exactly what. he's saying okay so then how could it. ever be homosexual to have sex with a.

woman if you're a heterosexual man I. said have a question do you think it's. gay for a guy to let girls peg him yeah. but then how is it but isn't that the. definition hetosexual say it was. homosexual. I you're doing something I'm doing. exactly that's why we have a criteria. for Andrew wins the podcast Andrew wins. the podcast wait he just gave me my. point I win this podcast no I won no I. was just saying gay in the way you're. exact saying it which is like yeah if.

you're like into a girl that looks like. hog I used what your analysis was in. order to answer that question and I made. it funny cuz I'm awesome yeah it was a. based anal that's how that works the. awesome anal is it gay or not to let a. woman P you I don't understand do you. think it's gay to let a woman Peg. you yeah but it's. aexual hual homosexual homosexual. there's difference homosexual okay. um wanted to come in go ahead um if the.

man likes sucking the dick he is. enjoying a homosexual activity by like. definition homosexual he's a homo he's. let's be careful just be. careful he's enjoying a homosexual. activity um if he's simply attracted. like just alone being attracted to a. feminine looking feminine passing body. individual that would be.

straight like she said it's really has a. lot to do with the genitals and the. genital prefer preference is a huge. thing with sexuality and stuff like that. so it's Megan Vox with a d it is. what if he if he likes sucking that dick. it's. homosexual I I think Andrew tape put it. best that it is way gayer to Hulk. Hogan with a than move the dick. out the way and Megan Fox butt. that's I I believe that no that's true. that that is he said that he said that.

it's very bass B it's just let's be. honest it's just a little more gay to. a woman who looks like a dude with. a vagina just a little Gul Hogan you're. hitting hul Hogan like it's a little gay. to suck a woman dick she over you don't. have to even see the dick you just see. Meg it Fox that's got to deal with. it if she's bent over you don't she can. hold it up you know to look at. it why I think almost anyone who's going. to be open to like a pretty fluid.

options of genitals would probably. already themselves be like yeah I'm. queer like they're almost always going. to be part of the lgbtq community the. problem is is that the terms lose. meaning so you can understand when. you're saying the word gay and you mean. it like how we're we're talking about it. here which is like um when when males. call each other and you you know don't. be and we're saying that right we don't. actually mean anything about. homosexuality at all when we say that. never meant it like that it's never been. used like that it's the same thing here.

so the term does need to have some. meaning and it's like no obviously if. you're having sex with a woman you're a. heterosexual man you're having sex with. a female you're a heterosexual yeah but. you're a little bit more gay on The like. binary it's gross it's not gay it's no. it's a little bit more gay if you're. really attracted to every single. masculine secondary feature other than a. dick that's a little bit more that. wasn't that. was to said. think about what I just said there Hulk.

Hogan's secondary characteristics would. be things like chest hair no breast. stuff like that but still with a vagina. if you're attracted to every single male. SEC secondary sexual characteristic but. you want a vagina it's just a little. more gay than if you're attracted to a. feminine appearing woman with a vagina. obviously this is true wait feminine. woman V say have Megan Fox with a vagina. versus Hulk Hogan with a vagina if. you're more into Hulk Hogan you're. having sex with her it's a little bit. more gay than if you're having SE with. Megan Fox with a vagina I agree what.

you're saying but that wasn't the. example the example was Megan Fox with a. dick that's vagina than for example. having sex with hetosexual men they're. going to say I'm going to choose a. vagina but it doesn't matter the. not these men. are no that I feel but it's it's such a. dumb like scenario because I would like. let's be real like most transgender. women are nowhere near even approaching. the physical Beauty. of Megan Fox sure I like I would argue.

if you were to line up 100 transgender. women like I mean I don't know if I got. a good vision for that but I could. probably tell there's a test you should. take it the there's aest there's a. test to be like is it a trans woman is a. real woman and every single guy who has. told me that has failed that test okay I. may who knows yeah cuz there's like a. lot of super so I agree like the average. trans woman is probably not passing cuz. they tend not to try to even transition. until post puberty and like you can't. get rid of like NFL shoulders a little. rough right but like I'm sorry men.

saying that they would prefer Hulk Hogan. of vagina most of them are just lying I. think a better why is it a I think. because they would rather have realize. that men actually find it heterosexual. men would actually find that to be. physically revolting to have to suck. another man off they find it so. physically abor and revolting that why. wouldn't they go for the alternative. what you're really saying there is that. men who have sex with ugly women are gay.

that's what you're actually saying I'm. saying men who have sex with women who. have all male sex secondary. characteristics ug. women hen are what. mild men who have sex with ugly women. let's go back to my statement I said men. who prefer to have sex with Hulk. Hogan ridiculous such a ridiculous I. will I will walk everyone through my. hypothetical again because again it is. obviously more gay to suck Megan Fox's. dick than to have sex with Megan Fox's.

vagina obviously that's true it's a dick. you. mean I'm extending our hypothetical this. example is so ridiculous though because. I think a more fair a more fair example. to use let's take comparing the average. woman who's of average Beauty and. average her bodies physically men are. going to prefer average comparing it to. an average transgender. woman but Mo that's not what the.

hypothetical is about but that it's such. a ridiculous hypothetical but that's how. hypotheticals work you test ideas to the. extreme though like if we're going to if. we're going to I agree but there's not a. lot of Megan foxes with dicks running. around and there's not a lot of whole. vag the extreme let's also be realistic. if you're going to say Megan Fox with a. dick poor Megan Fox and Hulk Hogan in. the situation can't you give like a very. attractive man and you could say like. Ryan Reynolds with a vagina you know. what I mean. like. hyper masculine but not necessarily.

considered like attra normal attractive. Hulk Hogan yeah like I respect him he's. a good sure uh very fit man but Ryan. Reynolds has like more of the female. gays I feel like than the male gays. though but that's what I'm saying if. you're choosing a sex symbol for men. that's Megan Fox you have to choose the. equivalent of what that would be Ryan. Reynolds with a vagina like you're. saying Hulk Hogan men wouldn't be. attracted what you're actually saying. though ultimately is that if a man has. heterosexual sex with a female who's. ugly they're gay ugly wom aren't filled.

with second you are because when you say. if you. say I can prove this I can prove this I. can steal man your argument I'm going to. pause you for a second let me steal man. let me steal man it I'm going to no I'm. going to pause you because what you're. trying to do is frame the argument no. I'm just going to steal man you and you. can say if I'm wrong or right words into. my you can say if I'm wrong or right. okay so the steel man is if you're. attracted to the secondary sex. characteristics of the the this person.

and they're all male they're all male. secondary sex characteristics are what. we would consider male secondary sex. characteristics so like abs and I I. don't know whatever they are yeah yeah. all that wide shoulders y got it all of. that so you're attracted to those things. but you're having sex with that person. because they have an actual vagina right. yeah okay so you're a little bit more. gay yeah yeah yeah so so I have I steel. manned this correctly uh I I reject that. because ugly women aren't just masculine.

women I guess there's a lot of ugly. women that are not masul so so hang on. well there might be a guy like a. girl who's really unattractive but also. has no male secondary sex. characteristics and I wouldn't say he's. more gay but yeah if you're attracted to. all of the if you're attracted to Ryan. goling with a vagina it's a little bit. more gay yeah okay obvious so then. here's the difference the distinction. the distinction when we're asked this. hypothetical who would you rather do x. with would you rather do this with the. heterosexual. right or have heterosexual sex or.

homosexual sex based on the secondary. sex characteristic beauty standards yeah. and the man picks the Hulk Hogan what is. the objection there when you call it a. cope because you switch the argument to. say no it's if they're attracted to the. secondary sex. 00 I would be on board with trans if it. was similar to tady boys they are not. pretending like they are actual females. the problem is trans women act like they. are actually female brain dead Okay TR.

been lying about like what's going on is. bad right that would be unethical in my. view but like that's literally to my. point yeah a lot of men would just. choose really sexy F boys to have sex. with especially if it's casual sex but. obv not true I'm just telling you. they're coping yeah but all Not. all men let me the question so let me. give you the question back within the. hypothetical of you had to choose right. understand you switching it to say I'm.

sorry if you're attracted to secondary. sex characteristics on a man then that. means that you have homosexual. tendencies okay I can totally agree with. that but you did switch it so and and. you say it's cope when men say this why. would it be cope for them to pick the. thing that had the vagina because. they're lying because they're not. engaging honestly with the hypothe they. are because they're most people most. people select their sexual mates based.

on like how they look and how attracted. they are when you put them in this type. of binary you're being like if you knew. that they had forah but the reality is. that's not how anyone engages in sexual. Dynamics at all absolutely not and most. people will pick the fboys regularly all. the time but isn't the argument isn't. the argument what possible way could you. demonstrate no you don't go to wait a. second you go to Thailand and what. happens in Thailand is you're left with. a a bifurcated choice that you must. a F boy or not a fan booy what are.

you talking about actually what actually. happens is that there's tons of lady. boys walking around that are hotter than. most women somehow and men are actively. choosing to have sex with them over. female that does not engage with what. we're talking about at all no it doesn't. consider how could that possibly engage. with what we're asking which is how is. it cope for a man to take that selection. you say it's because given the. opportunity if a man had that. preexisting condition they would still. go after the one that had. demonstrate that okay the the way that I.

would demonstrate that is again the. moment that you move the hypothetical. into the real world instantly men. suddenly swap their choice and they're. lady boys they're a homosexuals. do that donated. $200 Ty lady boys of boops and dicks you. dumb what yeah I don't know are dumb. side not so this chatter just to. be clear is and I don't think they've. supported me through any. I think it's dumb FU by the way yeah oh.

yeah are we not allowed to cuss I. thought this is evidence to exactly what. I'm talking about right that a lot of. men at the end of the day when you put. into a practical they're just going to. pick how do you know that that was in. support of you I think it was he said. twice that he would always pick that he. would just have sex with Lady boys. absolutely maybe he's gay maybe he's an. actual homosexual do you think Andrew. Tate is gay yeah I think that if you're. a man who says that you would have sex. with a man for any under any. circumstances you're homosexual you.

heard it here Andrew G if you're that I. feel like if you're that defensive over. it then then that means you must be a. homosexual it's like I'm not a murderer. if you're that defensive You're a. murderer that's insane that now that's. cope that's actual I mean all of this is. cope like when like there are some men. by the way that are really into. and I would grant that there are some. men when they say oh they would pick. Hulk Hogan they probably would right I. bet you that's you I'm not saying that. you I have no idea about your. Kings or preferences I'm just saying. like that seems like a really big deal.

to you the issue is that most guys want. to get some dick right that's. all they really care about and they. don't mind if they're sticking in an an. they don't really care that much. as long as she's hard be into most guys. don't care no no they don't find that to. be completely physically revolting most. of them. uh lady boy yeah you should talk to more. men I've talked to lots of men about. them I don't need to I can tell you I. can tell you men who have gone to. Thailand and have been tricked into. thinking that they were women at first. and then they Retreat sure but the.

reason that they're retreating is. because they were looking for vagina. specifically and they were lied to right. that doesn't none of this has anything. to do with the hypothetical I just said. some are being honest but a lot of men. who answer this are just being copy. because they're like I don't want to be. gay and it's like it's literally. more gay to be into Hulk oh you still. haven't demonstrated it though you just. say no you haven't you just say I think. that most men would that's my. demonstration I think they would over.

FS your demonstration is literally just. being like Oh I personally wouldn't so. it's not that way andate is gay no the. burden would be on the person who claims. that hey wait a second the. non-homosexual picks the non-homosexual. sex this makes sense makes logical sense. the person who says no the heterosexual. would pick the homosexual sex because. they have real pretty eyes that's the. burden of proof let's back us up let's. back us up what do you think sexual. orientation has to do with do you think. it's about like genitals the type of sex. you want to have or like what you're.

attracted to what is it I think it could. be a combination of tons of things and. within within the confines of that. exploration though I do think that. there's a revulsion factor which happens. between most members of the same sex. which repels them from having any type. of intercourse with each other. especially men when it comes to men. having same-sex relations with each. other what is the one thing men always. talk about about going to prison that. they're terrified of they're terrified. of the rap but. but why why fing.

hor because big bad word is horrible. because because it's 10 times they even. they think it's 10 times more revolting. it's not the victimization portion. donated. $200 hey dummy forcing that choice. doesn't mean they prefer those masculine. features that's just how much better the. p is true of course given any choice we. would rather have a beautiful woman. okay right but if we were if so if you.

force the bifurcated choice they choose. you say that's cope because you think. that most men would do this and your. only line of defense to say that is that. some homosexual men have sex with Lady. boys no that is not my only. defense Andrew W this trying to. twist words the point is tady boys don't. think they are actually female like. trans women in the US say fkn brain dead. okay oh sorry I thought this guy was. smart it turns out he's a.

okay I won't allow you to frame my. arguments or tell me what my arguments. are because you are being dishonest in. the framing of no you're being dishonest. you swapped the hypothetical and I. watched you SW hypothetical at all I did. not swap the hypothetical at all there's. no way you you just saying it over and. over doesn't make it I can literally. show you how you did this what you did. was you asked about a bifurcated Choice. once it was demonstrated which of us. would take that choice you then said the. people who are attracted to secondary.

sex characteristics on one or the other. that's more or less homosexual the thing. is though is that you did not add in. anything about attraction only Which. choice would you take right and part of. the Which choice is which would you have. sex with which to some degree we would. assume in there is some level of. attraction just like you said levels of. Attraction include things like your. sexual orientation which genitals you. would like to deal with what you're. attracted to physically number of things. like this which is why I'm saying having.

sex with a vagina is more straight than. having SE for men than having sex with. like a dick obviously however being. attracted to body parts or selecting to. have sex with secondary body parts that. are of the opposite gender is just a. little bit more gay obviously I see your. argument but again the question was if. you had to choose between this genitalia. or this genitalia which one would the. genitalia that. not stop stop that is not the question.

because it's just you being dishonest. and reframing being attached to the. question isn't whether you want to have. sex with a dick or a the question. is Hulk Hogan or Megan Fox which implies. hyper masculinity and Hyper femininity. which is part of Attraction C off the. genitalia I'm not cutting off the. genitalia I'm including them you guys. are trying to cut off the genitalia no. they're trying to cut off their person. they're trying to pretend it's only the. genitalia we're attaching it to the no. it's not the hypothetical is inherently.

not genitalia because why the would. I say Hulk Hogan and Megan Fox if all I. wanted to ask people about is whether. they prefer or dick then it's just. still the same exact thing where you're. saying that if a guy is with a really. ugly woman because she's just really. ugly yeah if she looks like look like if. she looks like whatever your definition. is of a man even though she's just an. ugly woman right you're saying if a guy. has sex with her he's gay you want me to. wait until you're done sping that's. that's what you're saying are you done. sping I can explain again you're the one. cutting me off. for the second time I'll explain again.

why what you just said small words sure. I'll try using little kid words for if. you can can you get a coloring book that. would be great you got one in front of. you get a purple pen yeah do you want to. color my rope and then explain to me how. that's not just an ugly. woman Okay the reason why I didn't say. what you just finished saying what. did you even say now got that that's an. ugly woman sneaky with this what that. that's just an ugly woman no okay thank. you thank you actually I appre apprciate. that the reason why it's not just an. ugly woman is because I already outlined.

that this is disanalogous and you're. lumping in a larger group of people than. I am talking about because not all women. look like Hulk Hogan or have secondary. sex characteristics my entire point is. secondary sex character so if I started. including birds in this that. wouldn't matter could category well. could there be ugly women who look like. Hulk Hogan well your points totally mute. dip. you oh you're. let me walk you through.

categorical philosophy okay let's walk. through it write me a P value premise. for wait wait wait watch here's a. picture here's a picture of birds okay. all sorts of Birds Go in this circle and. inside of this circle is seagull okay. seag competition now you see that. seagull so seagulls you could do. canaries though they're much cuter okay. actually that's not true seagulls are CU. that's a good one one in another Circle. we have ugly.

women and then in a smaller circle. inside the big circle is Hulk Hogan. women and here we have just an ugly. woman it's just an ugly woman how dare. you draw me like that just an ugly woman. how dare you draw they exist and if a. heterosexual man has sex one they're. just a heterosexual man having sex know. you're wrong you had to draw a portrait. of me rather than dealing with. categorical analysis because you know.

that you're in well no I didn't say a. very ugly one how like majority of ugly. women don't have beards and chest hair. they're just ugly yeah but it doesn't it. wouldn't. matter I didn't say her counter her. counter analysis is to say fre to call. if her counter analysis is to just say. no it's too far hey uh there are there. are women who exist outside this group. of ugly women who are other ugly women. that wouldn't matter all that would. matter is that there's women stop. talking so I can finish my point stop. talking so I finish my point stop.

talking so I finish my point stoping. stop sping stop sping stop sping is my. turn saying it'll be true stoping stop. sping want to go because he's about to. reframe my argument no I'm about to tell. the truth is what I'm about to God okay. so anyway and she's just going to repeat. she she'll repeat I promise she's going. to repeat this exact same thing she's. going to say stop tell me there's. there's women who exist she's still. sping sping. he cannot be outlining my I can because.

I'm doing it right now so anyway I am. correct he does then we'll we'll call. out so all you're doing all all she's. doing is saying there's women who exist. outside of the category there's women. who exist outside or inside of the. category I asked her Are there women who. exist inside the category of ugly women. who look like Hulk Hoban if the answer. is yes you still haven't made a. compelling argument as to how that's. non-heterosexual sex or in any way even. homosexual I appreciate that you're. trying to back it back up to the broader. conversation and we can go there but I. just want to make it super clear that. you were being completely dishonest.

about my argument and you know that. because you know you know categorical. philosophy so I know that you know this. when you said that when I'm saying that. men who have sex with ugly women are gay. you knew that you were engaging in a. categorical fallacy because you know. that not all ugly women look like Hulk. Hogan only people yes they do my claim. is that out premise for me my my premise. is that men who are having sex with Hulk. Hogan women are more gay mhm that's my. premise so when you expand it to the. broader categ I understand your argument.

but what's my argument I'm not done I'm. not done my argument back that's your. where you're that's the disconnect I'm. not moving off of this until you yeah. but I'm telling you I'm actually telling. you the structural problem here the. structural problems you're confusing two. things so my argument back to you though. is to say no this is false inside of. this category that's the disis yeah so. you're pointing at this and saying this. is a category I'm denying that category. exists I'm just saying that's just. another ugly woman and some ugly women.

look like Hulk Hogan yeah wait you're. agreeing with me you're right I don't. think some ugly women we use a circle. for the poor chat some if this is ugly. women some of them look like Hulk Hogan. not all women who are ugly look like. Hulk hog so when you conflate my. argument as saying Hulk Hogan are you. did you are being fallacious about my. argument and I need you to stop being. from me to engage in good fa then go. ahead and tell me expl I will explain it. again if you would.

like modest hi thank you I have a side. question hold on I will explain it one. more time for the class I really I. really want do you think men who have. anal sex are gay like if I if a guy does. anal to a woman you mean they're not gay. but it makes them a little bit fruity. yeah they're not homosexuals no because. they're into it into the gay so anal sex. is not inherently gay but it's a woman's. but it's a woman's do a man or a. woman homosexual that's an act it's not.

for me it's not an allocation from my. worldview of logical possibility so. everybody has different worldviews for. what even starts with logical. possibility homosexuality is an act it's. an act it's not even an attraction as. you could be a person who's attracted. the same sex never act on it you'd never. be a homosexual know pretty gay if you. were attracted to men like what you. could say you could say it's gay but. what I'm saying a homosexual is but then. you never act on it you're super gay for. instance let's say that you had two gay.

animals okay two homosexual animals how. do you know when they're homosexuals I. mean but. like talk if the animals could talk and. be like I really want to other God. really want to do this but they what I'm. saying is that it's an action. homosexuality is. an if you want to it's an action is not. acting on it you're still you're still. gay thoughts thoughts are treated as an. action in all of Behavioral Science.

yes all of Behavioral psychology since. Skinner we have treated thoughts as an. action because we can train thoughts as. much as you can train other things. what's the. subconscious that the subconscious like. what do you mean specifically the ego. I'm not talking about psychoanalysis if. you're talking about the the ego or what. you would call the subconscious or. whatever these things are no I'm talking. about you're talking about like Freudian. I'm talking about what I'm asking. is can you have thoughts that aren't. even your own own thoughts uh by. inherently yeah you can have so then.

from my worldview black hair girls. saying that a man would prioritize the. extreme feminine presentation of a. female genitalia conversely would he be. more repulsed by the masculine extreme. or the male genitalia that's a pretty. good way of say any that's pretty good. way of asking it the question becomes. remember I explained to you long time. ago in a debate about the concept from. the Orthodox worldview of the leisi same. thing in the Catholic world. they don't call the they have a very. similar thing which is that those bad.

sinful thoughts that come into your head. they're not your own they're demonic. thoughts and these are not things which. you would actionably do absent the fact. that those were inserted into your brain. so the reason that inside of. Christianity we say listen you're not. really a homosexual if not acting on the. thoughts we're not even sure that. they're yours sure I guess my response. to that would be uh what is it The. Sermon on the Mount where Jesus or is it. Sermon on the Mount where he says if you. like if you think a hateful thought um.

you should like like if you Steal You. should cut think of stealing you should. cut off your hand if you like lust after. a woman you should pluck after your eyes. so I guess I would just say that's. actually referencing that though that's. actually saying that can be S yeah it's. saying that these thoughts which are. introduced to you it's better to do. anything except act on those thoughts. can I ask something well last thing is. hypothetical I think we just mentally. dis so you're saying it's in your. worldview you I thought you were like. more Catholic that is part of that. worldview no saying that if you think. so you're saying if you think homosexual. thoughts which you don't act on them.

that that that's not homosexual right. but we're about attract you having. attraction you also said if you have. those attractions but you don't act on. them that's is from my world I'm sorry. I'm just trying to I just want to ask. this before I get my point so just make. sure understanding it right if you have. like gay attraction but you don't act on. it that's you're not gay yeah but. wouldn't those thoughts okay not to be. too explicit but those thoughts might. give you an erection and so if you look. at men and you get an erection is that. gay yeah so I'm just trying to explain. to you that the thoughts which are.

introduced into your brain to act on. these what we would consider sinful. behaviors that you're not supposed to do. that's from the tradition she comes from. and the tradition I come from okay so. both in both of these Traditions these. thoughts which are introduced into your. brain that in itself is not the. simple almost done I'm super close right. those thoughts which are introduced. themselves are not sins it's your. actions that them sense but I guess. there's a difference between like an. intrusive thought that like can just. randomly come and does not have like any.

say over what you actually feel and then. like genuine attraction right so the. question BEC the question of that point. if you have a b resp question which are. which so which ones are thoughts which. are introduced absent you and which ones. come from you that's a much tougher. question and so in my tradition we say. most of the thoughts that go into your. head are probably not yours most of them. are probably demonic thoughts yeah but. no if you're having a bodily reaction. like that's where it becomes something.

gay right it's like if you're what is it. so if it gives you Direction still have. a reaction based on those thoughts the. introduction of thoughts and have a. physiological response and still never. act on those things so we have to be. cautious so you're saying if a guy gets. a heart on because he sees another hot. dude and wants to him but never. does he's not gay I'm asking you this. question I'm asking you from my from my. viewpoint I'm saying that's really gay. from my from and I'm answering you my. answer would be no but here's why from.

my tradition we're saying the thoughts. introduced into the brain there are. thoughts introduced into the brain which. are demonic thoughts and those thoughts. can have all sort they can put pictures. in your head of all sorts of lustful. things they can put pictures in your. head of all sorts of attractions you may. not have this is all Christian. Traditions have this except maybe some. Protestant ones including Kyla who says. she's more involved with Catholics she. has to kind of concede that this is also. true it's no longer a thought when you. have B re don't have to concede to the.

extent that you're trying to use it for. example I don't think any person in. Christianity or secular World actually. believes that if a dude like say sorry I. won't use Brian say a guy named Tom. every time he sees a guy that that he's. kind of into he gets really attracted he. thinks about men a lot and maybe he. never masturbates to it ever every. single person would say that he has a. gay sexual orientation every single. person let me ask you hang ask this let. me ask this let me ask this cath is that. a sin from Catholicism standpoint to act.

in homosexual whether he has a sexual. orientation or is doing a sin are not. right but don't don't the Catholics say. that the reason there's a distinction is. because it's possible that the Demonic. is influencing him and him not acting on. it is him acting away from sin K it's. possible but it's also possible and a. lot of Catholics would agree the pope. would agree this that people can have a. PR election to be gay and in the. Catholic World they would say by not. acting on your sexual orientation you're. not engaging in sin cathol Trad the. Catholic tradition is to say if you're. not their the whole point of their.

tradition for treatment for. homosexuality is to say this is a sin. you're not supposed to do this and then. they try to steer you away from the sin. they claim that the sin comes from the. enemy the thoughts for the sin come from. the enemy not from you and we know that. it's not coming from you because you're. trying to get away from it that's why. you're going to the church so these are. introductions into your brain of demonic. thoughts you're not acting on you still. just want them to be G no matter what. this is your worldview I telling you. that's the Catholic tradition wait Alexa.

you want to come in Alexa goad I'm going. to be very careful about the words I. choose on this there are instances where. things happen to someone of force I'm. going to say and your body has a natural. reaction in those situations did that. person want it absolutely not I would. argue that they didn't okay and I'm I'm. trying to not use I know what you're I. just I'm not connecting why you would. talk about orgasmic during no no I'm. saying so there's a physical bodily. reaction are you saying that that person. wanted it he's saying you're saying that.

if someone's body naturally about the. body Dre I'm saying that person. is baked into this baked into would you. agree that there's a really big. difference between being graped and then. having a sexual response versus having. constant repeated thought sexual. to during grap you're actually being. touched there's a physical stimulation. happening to you also big big in wait. tou please let me finish baked into this.

baked into what we were talking about we. have explicitly stated the guy is. attracted to other men gets hard because. of other men but never actually has sex. with other men y Andrew was saying. that's not gay don't on the table that. all of us we were saying no that's gay. if you're attracted um you get hard on. it you want it but you don't act on it. you're still gay obviously everyone. would agree that if you're attracted to. new topic and we're going to W up very. soon we're going to W up very soon uh I.

think we every time we transition topics. I think we need Nala to just drop a ooo. or something are you guys like sick of. it yet or no he. definitely I you know what I would like. to hear an oooo from everybody do it. only if you do it I'll do it too I'll do. it to no no you guys go this is the. poison cup okay I'll drink after you. drink but. I'll do it oh. I am secure in my masculinity I'm.

glad so I am comfortable saying an I'll. do an oooo with the face expression I. can't do that no full if you want us to. put our chest into it you have I think. it was just. for do it with more is yours bro it's. going to happen good do I have to now do. be a. deep or can it be does have to be high. you have to Comm to the it has to be. your. yeah. e that was so good that was actually.

great all right you have to make Andrew. do it though when he comes back you. can't that might be a tough cell it. might be a tough cell I'll try my best. you're a professional debater okay I'll. I'll try my best I'll see what I can do. I'll pull some. strings Kyla go ahead you. will love it slay no I feel embarrassed. okay got to see my. yeah okay fix the hair not even you got.

this you got. this got to put it in my soul do. it I'm so nervous this is going to be on. the internet forever um among among many. other things not start that not start. that wait we missed it we missed it we. missed it sorry do it again so many. great things happen he's making us all. oooo he did it too I'm not going to.

O have to go ahead you say it in your. own. voice. e oh my. God I'm going to pretend like you didn't. just make my dick go. soft that wasn't me that that was I go. ahead I'm respectfully what no hello. said respectfully. why just curious why not I'm just it's. just not my thing it's not your thing.

yeah bankrupting men is your thing we. have wait can you at least pull the. microphone closer and tilt it up and. closer to you and actually speak into it. and yeah Mercy uh go ahead gosh okay let. me try. this wait I I don't know if I can do the. the microphone. closer. right who that's good that's a surprise. was surprisingly good good I am. impressed she's practiced she's for sure.

done it before oh yeah. please if she concedes that men are. stronger than women will you do it no. okay this is that's too much feminine. energy I'm not W can you do a masculine. oooo like a deep voice. like. testosterone do you know the Marine for. Ura. it's it's not that J Brown donated $100.

not that away no man cares what of girls. think on dating topics please get. regular woman on here tonight's. questions and discussions are pointless. I am losing brain cells I'm better off. watching dumb and dummer dum and dum is. a classic ins cool topics like twice. already Saucy topic L if you don't like. it why you give them money but. also. B you are financing this. there you have it my hate Watchers.

never pay me so you got something good. going on I guess so uh wait where were. we uh o with Andrew oooing with Andrew. yeah I don't think sorry guys I'm just. fixing the TPS lower I spoiled all the. fun I know uh well let's try to wrap up. here pretty soon I I did do sound like. he did I did so good. on going to do it again Andrew I will do. an ooo again uhuh if you do an.

aigal I don't think he can do that okay. you first whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. a I want let's this this is a legally. binding contract andb if you breach said. contract do you agree to pay me an. amount of $10,000 should you choose to. not do the aiga. man that's see this this sus here let's. actually draft I'm going to draft upang.

this sucks because I was just going to. lean into the mic and say I lied and. make you do it again but now now we've. gotten way too far into it the whole. joke is wrecked and there you go I think. it would still be funny oh yeah no it it. would definitely still be funny you can. keep the picture of the ugly woman of me. I think this is a beautiful woman so. that's good I before we wrap up before. we wrap up maybe we can try to bring. this back a little bit to dating so does. anybody have anything sorry sorry dating.

dating related that they would like to. get off their chest before we wrap up. the show anybody anything from maybe men. are pissing you off in some way it's. frustrating out there in the dating. world I love men anything I feel like I. learned so much from men like all of my. mentors are men my business partner my. Sensei um I feel like I learn a great. deal from men um honestly I find that. it's harder to learn things from women. just for me personally I don't look up. to a lot of women um just doing what I. do and creating the space that I did for.

myself I don't really look up to many. women um at all so I mean there are. women that I I don't know why I don't. have girlfriend it's like guys I just. kind of yeah like it's not even about. sex or dating like I just I love. men okay good times anybody else. I'd say two things I going off of that I. think it's and I'm curious to know your.

guys' stance on this of like I find it. very sad but like if you look into like. social media or you know celebrities and. this there are not very good role models. for dating or people to say like that is. a relationship I want to strive towards. and I think for a lot of women when. they're younger yeah it's easier to go. to O it's easier to do these things. because you're like I there's not kind. of you you you get burned basically and. you just say me let's do this I'd. rather make money and if I'm going to be. sad and single might as well be rich and. single better be at the top than the.

bottom exactly and I think I do think. it's sad though that there's not a lot. of good role models to. follow from my after a few days of this. I realized something important I. actually tweeted it out which is that if. my wife died tomorrow I definitely would. never date again ever never I would live. the rest of my life in solitary and be. fine with it i' be fine with. what's that what about PornHub what. about it like would you engage good.

chran but that's not a. relationship okay yeah yeah I would I. would just I would be done I that's like. I can't I I don't even understand it. like I I can't believe that the the. level of selfishness and degeneracy is. like isn't watching porn like a pretty. equal sin to like being gay or something. wait what I mean cuz you said you would. I don't know if I Mard him he said you'd. watch PornHub but isn't that said no oh. he said no okay I got so confused never. mind I take everything back I was like.

really Let's do let's do this if any of. you guys in the next couple minutes. think of anything that you know uh. dating related you'd like to uh. discuss I'm going to do some chats if. you guys want to think about that so we. have infinite Singularity Brian and. Alexa are like peanut butter and jelly. individually great but together they're. a match made in YouTube heaven a I love. that thank you. okay infinite Singularity thank you um. the problem.

is I'm allergic to peanut butter so I. can can be jelly is in a. situationship wait what aren't you no. didn't you allude to Something in the. beginning how you didn't want to talk. about something huh yeah no sit you. didn't want to talk about wait what. single you would have just said I'm. single but I don't think you are no I. just don't private if I was single I. wouldn't privately I don't disclose. anything just cuz cuz uh I uh I how do I. I just wouldn't disclose if I was single.

I wouldn't disclose if I was in a. relationship no either way I would not. disclose just for security reasons so I. ask you guys respect that but okay so. listen it's been like all the times I've. been on this show and I've tried to use. context clues and this and that what the. is a situationship oh it's like not. a relationship but you're kind of seeing. someone and talking to. someone. degeneracy so basically problem with. younger Generations that you don't have.

to deal with in dating is people become. intimate with one another and they have. all the connections of a relationship. without the title and their obligations. it's not just in all. honesty older people that are in a. situation but but I'm just saying it's. it's more for younger generations of. like when it came about I why but we. just don't titles situation I love. titles I do too but it's like people. don't want that people want the freedom. do what they want without the title if. they want the freedom they can go be.

free over there here might be here might. be an example of a situationship two. people have been uh dating hooking up. having sex for a period of 3 months. they've never had an overt conversation. about exclusivity they haven't had a. conversation of whether they're. boyfriend or girlfriend they would be in. a situ exclusive like if someone were to. go hook up with someone else they would. get mad but could because Tech yeah but. then you know that's what makes it a. situation we also have another chat here. from infinite's right that that I would.

just call it. degeneracy I know infinite Singularity. Brian plus Alexa. YouTube uh where are you taking me on. our first Daye uh down the street I. don't know if anything around are you. paying cuz well we already that what. know you said 50-50s that's how we're. going. so finessed okay um Alan VAR gosi Alex. Canadian an Andrew fan Canadian 200 by.

the way are do you speak French no cuz. you're not French or you're not in the. toron was it Montreal I'm not Tor I'm. from Alberta I'm from like Texas of. Canada I see okay well Mery buku for the. Canadian 200 audite thinks she can. outsmart Andrew but he is far superior. in his arguments and thoughts she falls. in all her arguments and Andrew has. consistently demolished aites arguments. in many of their previous. this has got to be like this is like the. classic FBI like basement dwelling mouth.

breather like statements that like so. often like not all of your communities. like this but there's so many in your. community that it's just like as long as. I keep saying that this person's stupid. and wrong it'll be true and I know why. are you psychoanalyzing me it's not like. your your community who's just like more. degeneracy and gay sex and we'll be. happy not my that's my community yeah my. community is pretty heterogenous but. okay we have Jeremy here I'm allowed to. think about hurting someone really bad. but that does not mean I am a murderer. the girl in the black hair can think she. is smart but that does not mean she is.

redhair girl spit in my mouth yes sir. number one she will if you pay enough. okay I I'll just do it for free man are. you kidding I Dr all the time I'm sorry. you're just stupid if you think about. hurting people really bad all the time. we wouldn't call you a murderer but we. might call you a psychopath are. you deranged I so tired of low. IQ Chatters Jesus. IIT smart okay sorry but they make you. money I don't even understand that. argument though if if people have.

thoughts if they have like U even even. homicidal things like this they never. act out on them and they never even. discuss them right in all other ways. they're. functional think about hurting yourself. all the time then you're you might be. depressed or suicidal obviously you're. not acting towards it but if you're. thinking all the time something is. obviously wrong with you you're. depressed you're sad something right guy. thinks about stabbing women in the eyes. all the time and he gets hard where he. sees like organs and stuff like that.

yeah he's not necessarily a murderer at. that point but he's a psychop. like you're just always kind of putting. extra on what's being said sure I'm. being hyperbolic but what I'm saying is. that we can label psychological states. that don't require actions which is why. sexual orientation is a labeled. psychological State regardless of action. and action can be labeled separately two. when I'm playing Grand Theft Auto 5 I'm. having homicidal thoughts every 15. seconds am I a psychopath yes no am I a. psychopath like when I shank her when. she's down and I take my money back. right is that is that me being a.

psychopath but if there's if there's a. degree to which it's like happening all. the time you're visualizing it with. other people you're getting like horny. about it all no I I'll like I'll have. friends in the game like in Red Dead. Redemption I'll have like five. friends we grab we'll grab a rope we'll. drag a woman across into the. railroad each other am I a homicidal you. want to do that no but I mean my point. is is that you can have the whole the. whole point is that context matters for. defining psychological States.

obviously right like just because you're. watching an video this is like the. argument like old Christians tried to. use to like get rid of video games and. stuff like the reality is that seems. like your brain can tell the difference. between a Grand Theft Auto granny that. you're like being like running over. versus a real your brain can detect. things which you have which could be. fantasy and in no way actually or. something that you would do in reality. like even homicidal thoughts but in the. case of homicidal thoughts you're right. you never acted out and you might not be. a murderer but you might have homicidal. thoughts all the time and low empathy.

and you might be labeled as a but you. could also according to this same. analogy have homicidal thoughts all the. time never acting out because you. understand that they're just fantasy and. you don't care tell you welcome to like. Psychology 101 yeah sometimes but then. don't call the comment low IQ when it. clearly wasn't didn't seem to be got to. the same point the comment are got to we. didn't get to the same point the entire. point is the context around the. situation right if you're dreaming about. murder muring people just all the time. you might be labeled as a psychopath if. you're playing GTA there's obviously.

context queuing the types of thoughts. these are clearly different situations. and any good psychology person with a. basic modom of understanding can. understand how context matters superal. and what the super chatter said was I. can have homicidal thoughts and not be a. murderer you said that that's low IQ. even though it's clearly true and he. just admitted it the reason why it's low. IQ times Row the reason why it's low IQ. is he's trying to equate it to the same. 14. the reason why it's low IQ is he's. trying to make that analogous to the. argument that you can have homosexual.

desires all the time and not be a. homosexual person Mur I'm just telling. you. that's by your tradition the Catholic. tradition that's totally real so and. right now is admitting that a man can. have constant homosexual thoughts all. the time get hard to men but as long as. he doesn't have sex don't worry you're. not what I'm saying is that you. can have thoughts which are not your own. which are introduced by the Demonic and. that you don't have to act on those. thoughts and it happens all. the like okay like being a murderer is. obviously not something we correlate to.

your thoughts but like your attraction. and sexuality is something we like. clearly tie to our thoughts like you can. know you're attracted to a celebrity. without ever them or ever seeing. them in person like your sexual. attraction is very directly correlated. to your thoughts but being a murderer is. clearly like yes your thoughts matter. but the action of being a murderer has. nothing to do with your thoughts like. you could be a virgin but know your. sexuality no no no but what she's also. saying is like a lot goes into being a. murderer a lot goes into H like Behavior. a lot goes into having sex with if. you're dude I'm guessing I understand.

that and that's I'm not agreeing with. either just trying to explain what she's. saying and you know what I let's go back. to dating I was about to say anybody did. anybody have any any last thing they. wanted to touch on on dating dating's. rough you know what though I didn't want. to I did want to ask a question though. because I want to go back to what I said. like from before when I was when you. asked me if I was single and I told you. that um like we had been on and correct. and what I had meant by that is like you. know on and off for me is also like when.

you when I argue with let's say my man. at the time and we argue and we're like. okay I'm done we're like we're done. that's kind of on and off to me like if. I go home and I said we're done and then. like the next day you know we got back. together that's on and off correct yes. you woke up and then you got em even if. it wasn't like a consensual like way. like yes we sat down we broke up like. yeah okay but like for me if it was like.

okay I said we're done i' like literally. I broke up with you and I went home and. then maybe two days later I got like I. went back to you that's on and off. correct yeah I don't think I don't think. most people like treat it that way but I. don't know these LS don't matter cuz. you're ending it at the end of the day. whether or not it's a like a whole. conversation whether or not it happens. related to this kind of related to. this. what's that that famous Trope from. friends were they oh we were on a break. were they on a break were they on a.

break break breaks I maybe people here. haven't seen friends but I haven't you. need to watch that show girl great show. I don't know I don't what do you guys. think about breaks about breaks like in. a relationship you're a break you're. done over you're just and you're done. like you don't need to break in. relationship like it's like okay wait. wait but can I give you an example. though honestly yes and. no because you want to cheat without Che. I don't think you're G to change my mind.

about this because I've been through. this and then I always never end up with. them listen I feel the same exact way I. feel the same exact way but I also think. that there is slight circumstances when. two people can really be going through. their own and really be going. through separate things that are. affecting the relationship and they. really need to take time apart to figure. out their own and see if if this. can be resolved to get back into. the relationship and see if it who does. takes a break I heal if you're in a.

healthy relationship or like if you. really really love the person if you and. your boyfriend both love each other and. you really do want to take a break to. work on yourselves individually and then. get back together then I think that's. correct but in a lot a lot of times aak. is aak you should still stay committed. if it's genu I did almost an entire year. separation from my has been actually. like 4 years into our relationship uh so. we didn't do a break because yeah um it.

was the best thing we've ever done for a. relationship but to be clear it wasn't a. break it was not a break like we weren't. seeing other people at all yeah and it. was one and it was like 7 months long. cuz if you're going to in my mind if. you're going to take a break take a. break like figure out what it is. a break is not breaking up it's taking. time apart to you know deal with your. I think what it really is is you. have to look at the relationship and go. every single toxic pattern that I bring. to this relationship will repeat in. every single relationship I have from.

here so if I want to work it out with. this person or any person in the future. I have to figure out my stuff first. which is what my husband and I did and. this is why like our relationship has. never been healthier since we came back. from the separation like it's just it's. like we're just I don't I don't even. know I can't even put words to it we're. just so happy but I would agree that. like 85% of couples that take a break. don't work out because it's like a toxic. clingy thing now it's like you're. worried about them instead of worrying.

about yourself and and then you're like. well I don't want them to sleep with. anyone else so we should just keep. sleeping together if you're worried. about sleeping with anyone else while. you're on a break then that obviously. should be number one red flag I just. think you're broken up then if you're. starting to see someone else you're done. like it's break if you're taking a break. and you're not seeing anyone else and. you're seriously going to work on your. relationship your individual I've never. heard of one though CU usually when. people say. like well here's the thing too most. people that go on breaks want to see if. there's something better out there and.

if there's not then they come back and. they're like okay like yeah it's like. breaking up without the commitment like. I want to go see if I like someone else. more and if I don't come back I kind of. want to pursue something at the moment. because this we can all agree that it's. not like that 100% of the time it might. be 85 or 99% of the time but a lot of. like a little bit of the time it's. actually real like a lot of couples do. go through breaks and come back. better don't make me deal with that. cheeseburger make me don't make me deal. with Jeremy he's such a. holy how much money has Jeremy sent.

speaking of that Jeremy human thoughts. don't necessarily reflect Identity or. intentions people often have spontaneous. sometimes disturbing thoughts that don't. align with their values in cognitive. behavioral therapy thoughts are seen as. separate from truths or actions thinking. I think Jeremy's a homosexual thinking. neg requires maybe wreck I think it. might have been a typ thoughts aren't. seen as separate from truths no. absolutely seen his actions and behav. yeah but that's not my question my. question was are they seen separate as.

from truths cognitive behavioral therapy. doesn't really get into truths in. general which is why I know that this. dumb knows nothing about CB oh we. got modima donated. $200 is. gross W overall panel Andrew W since rr2. is best no one remembers number two. girl's name but her cup needs to. seriously reconsider ladies please don't. get plastic surgery is gross you're. gross again if I'm having sex with him.

he's just not a cuck so I I agree with. his last part. gross I uh I'm a natural body. supremacist I think I've heard you talk. about this you're kind of like the. actual Rarity on this cuz you would say. like Jennifer Aniston for example. obviously she's old now but You' say. she's like not very attractive to you. cuz she's had like half a million. dollars put into her face I suppose. I suppose it's possible that somebody. could have plastic surgery and I could. still find them attractive really mild. small amounts you're just like natural.

now no it's it's more so I could still. find someone attractive whether they've. had plastic surgery or not but would I. prefer them to have not had the plastic. surgery. yes okay also I think it's incredibly I. think it's incredibly I think it's. incredibly this is perhaps one of my Fe. rare feminist positions uh I think it's. incredibly damaging to women that uh. there you know there's certain beauty. standards and you've got the Kardashians. and that's that's basically.

brainwashed and rotted the brains of. vast swads of women to feel compelled to. get these dangerous and expensive and. frankly unnecessary cosmetic surgeries. so yeah that's fair okay and uh do you. prefer girls with like less makeup as. well like yes no makeup yes I appreciate. that no makeup or less makeup. um and uh it's very wholesome yeah it is. yeah sorry I'm not trying to say you're. cute I'm so sorry I'm literally not. saying no like for example I say this.

all the time like it's just like kind of. demasculate for a lot of guys. be that's cute though that's we would. women ter of end like I think women. would appreciate that but I think like a. lot of men prefer to be like feel. respected and like valued right so if. you're being like oh you're so cute. respect I'm not tripping about any of. that but I mean just when it comes to. the plastic surgery like uh I and I. think a lot of men would actually agree. with me it's not clear to me that the. majority of men find plastic surgery.

particularly appealing or attractive and. then I do think it can also it can be. proxy for potentially uh unappealing. personality traits um but for example I. would much prefer a woman let's say she. had absolutely no boobs just totally. flat I would prefer her with a flat. chest than just big fake tits if they. were small and natural looking fake tits. like the have you heard of like the. gummy bear fake.

tits crazy okay they're great you cannot. tell when put you can still you can. still tell I think not the gummy bears. the only way you can tell is when you. put the flashlight under the tit which. is I've never tried that I mean I would. still prefer I've never seen someone do. that I don't know I don't know if F tits. but apparently if go at that you can the. light I know I was about to say I'm a. it's not even it's not even so much. I know I just need to see something real. fast it's not even so much about the. size really but I mean I would prefer a. woman who let's say she was totally flat.

or maybe her boob sagged a little bit I. would prefer that than a girl who had. these perfectly perky faked hits not. everyone is like you though yeah I was. going to say I would argue most men as a. skinny ass girl I feel okay and in the. industry I feel like ever since I joined. the industry I used to be like so happy. about my body I used to love my body. like before or after before I joined the. industry once I joined the industry I. have never felt more insecure about my.

body well because your your your nudity. is on the table that it's not about the. money it's just like seeing all the. girls in porn and like if you like look. up if you literally just click on the. porn page you don't see anyone like me. when you go to conventions for the. industry you don't see a lot of girls. like me when you see all my. photographers Instagrams that shoot. girls that in the industry they never. post the pictures of the skinny girls. the ones with no boobs no ass they're. posting the girls that have curves big.

tits and I get that not obviously a lot. of people like natural but it's a. reality that this industry and you know. this. generation you know but could you argue. it's. romanticizes you know why is Jette. Michelle like one of the top 10 only. fans content I have no idea B Jo mom is. who the is that guy is it a guy. lady she's a lady okay bad meme um she.

has the most egregious proportions I've. ever seen she does she's done like facts. transpant like 18 times she's boobs are. like this big what's what's her name. Janette Michelle and she's like one of. the top 10 only fans cont characters. another top one is black China against. that's just none of that's real oh yeah. if you look at a lot of the top 10. there's a couple of like celebrities. more natural looking but most of them. are like hyper plastic and it's not that. a lot of natural girls aren't dominating.

in the industry that's not what I'm. talking about it's just if you really. look at the reality if you if you were. to say think of like five you know but. I'm not talking about okay we're talking. we're talking about different things. like because I'm talking about like what. but but I I'm willing to admit that. probably if you have fake breasts you. have nice fake breasts that that would. perhaps give you some competitive. Advantage when it comes to would it. could it be the case that men are more. likely to purchase your only fans if you.

have fake breasts could you be a bit. more eye-catching with fake breasts in. that context yes but in terms of a woman. that I'm looking to date or have a. relationship and speaking I'd speak. broadly here I think most men frankly. don't. really prefer women with plastic surgery. I'm not saying that there of course. there's men who are attracted to women. you you have no idea how many guys that. I've actually liked have come up to me. and literally said I just don't think I.

can be with you cuz you don't have what. I want you don't have ass you. have I mean look I guess people are. entitled to their preferences when it. comes to that but and especially it's. it's cuz you never know what a person. like I I've never been this skinny in my. life I used to have really big tits. really big whatever right I have health. issues so it's just like people are very. insensitive and and obviously Society. now with what you guys were saying like. like Kim Kardashian and like all the. role models that are in the society now. in this generation it's just it sucks.

that that is what the norm is and what. you you know yeah and I can add a little. bit to it so I mean in your case you. don't you don't currently have plastic. surgery no are you cons have you. considered getting fake breast yes okay. uh I mean my advice to you would be. don't do it yeah well don't do it um I. think you're beautiful as you are. without the need to undergo dous in the. necessary surgery um and uh and I. actually have a somewhat hot take on.

this but just to expand on my previous. point so when it comes to plastic. surgery I think a girl who's flat is I. okay. j00 the look on Andrew's face for the. entire time the discourse shifts to an. extended discussion on breast. augmentation is the greatest thing I've. ever seen great show tonight yo James. ston thank you man appreciate it if you. guys are in New York York and you need a. divorce attorney oh he's the guy you're. a divorce attorney that guy James I was.

like I'm so confused right now I'm so. confused yes that would be the SE Wilson. and Associates look no further then. Esquire James sexon and in fact Nala can. you do a quick endorsement into this. camera. no as ending I meant like an endorsement. can you just say into this. James ston is the best divorce attorney. in New York City he use that for ads and.

oh you don't have to wait James. James I get out this he'll never use it. but it'll be might use it James I will. grant you James oh God this he's a. lawyer so might actually I will grant. you a limited use license to use the. next 30 seconds of this podcast you uh. commercial use that's fine perpetuity. even thinket I will grant you perpetuity. James uh you can use this in advertising.

think that's what he wants to his ad. course he does of course he come down. here get a. divorce divorce your wife me. J oh God does your husband want one of. these one of those um okay so the point. I was trying to make um so prefer a girl. who's flat versus a girl who has faked. HTS I prefer a girl with a little belly. fat than a girl who has lipo belly I'd.

prefer a girl with a no ass than with a. BBL I'd prefer a girl with small upper. lip than a girl with lip filler I would. prefer a. girl not a. boy no I just thought you were going I. just okay I would prefer a girl with a. large labia than with a labia placy MH. huh huh uh big big lab matter BLM that's. my nonprofit.

organization. major both both can be the B the bigger. the better hater and lover um but uh and. like going around the table has anybody. here had any cosmetic. surgery not a lot what have I had done. Oh I thought you too I no my teeths are. so real they're so swollen right now cuz. I'm my period though are you considering. lip in a lot of girls don't consider lip. injections cosmetic but I plastic. surgery I would consider plastic Jameson.

donated. $200 are you trying to put me out of. business no thanks but the firm of seon. Wilson and Associates does have a nice. ring to it again great show tonight. thanks James James thank you again guys. if you're a New York and you need a. family law attorney he was a look no. further so confed. part of family he'll hat your wife as. much as you do don't worry he's he's. also uh he does maritime law too so I'm.

just saying if you marry any of these. women you're going to need him also tree. law he's also very much involved in tree. law you. guys did do you guys know that I didn't. know this but trees are expensive as. if you cut down a tree you're. need like tens of thousands of. dollars sometimes if you got some. dispute with your neighbor and you like. okay I'm going to their. that's like six you might owe them six. figures right James right I. think don't cut down anyes do you do.

tree lot have you done any tree lot I'm. just curious any tree lot James I. remember my boyfriend in high school hit. a tree and he had to pay the city. $20,000 oh yeah so here's also a Thing. If you plant a tree always be consider. like if you have a house be very. considerate of where the um Plumbing is. because the roots will actually Dam it. can be like six figures W also what it's. covering cuz they can literally like wow. find. I thought you had for some reason I. thought you had fake titties I had I've. literally had no surgery done I have lip.

filler I got Botox in my forehead I had. to stop that because I couldn't make. like Expressions anymore wait Nick can. you pull up Nala's Instagram I want to. do you have any photos of your. Lamborghini first off I'm just yeah if. you scroll down there's a picture of it. um with me um what oh inant M oh I'm so. sorry if you scroll down you'll see me. at a car wash in like a blue bikini wa. mat are you MD can you come back or are. you. okay SC down I want to wrap up pretty. soon I want okay um well I was just. curious cuz like you've undergone a.

pretty big transformation right in terms. of so like do you have any photos of you. where you don't have red hair I'm just. curious yeah that was like six years ago. it's saw the photos. earlier this might be her on this might. be her on I don't know I don't know if. we can look I think bikinis are allowed. on YouTube and twitch for sure doesn't. care bikinis okay I think you'd be good. unless there's like nips basically no. there's absolutely whatever okay. Instagram would not allow that I would.

anyways um for some women maybe not me I. just think you you can take any woman. who's had like breast implants BBL Li uh. I guess well lips Lio. lips I with certainty I can say I would. prefer all those. women had they not had any of those uh. procedures so. sure which is great any young women any. young women who are considering getting.

any sort of plastic surgery I want you. guys to know that there are plenty of. men out there that will think you're. beautiful and love you and find you sexy. and attractive without the need to. undergo dangerous expensive unnecessary. cosmetic surgery can I tell you a crazy. stat that's been replicated what's up. plastic surgery so small amounts like. one to two plastic surgeries are one of. the most preventative things you can do. for psychiatric illness that's crazy. like in the a preventive effect for like.

10 to 30 years more than like any. therapy medication yeah it's crazy in. the military the for women to get like. their boobs done because it's like for. their mental health it's like a. cognitive distance thing if you look in. the mirror every day and you're like. slightly unhappy what yeah it's actually. crazy we never expected it but like. really small amounts of plastic surgery. can be very protective against. psychiatric illness because you. basically if there's a part of your body. that you look at and you just always. hate it a little bit Yeah if you just. make that not look that way you'll be.

significantly there's a there's I'm not. saying you should get costic surgery you. should get therapy instead but obviously. but what we need to do is take back the. culture and embolden women to see their. innate. Beauty I think Society should stop. praising women he until he said women. fist here feminist liberal Brian tonight. yeah it's Progressive Brian I guess so I. guess. so I'm a big Advocate women need to just. travel to other countries cuz you go to.

Europe those very little makeup is. desirable no classic surgy just go. somewhere else leave here like your my. mental health is like. significantly like I don't want to touch. my body I don't want to do anything I. don't even want to be like in the. industry anymore CU it's just like it's. so much more like natural yeah everyone. there is just happier health. you know even if you're not doing. anything it's just like they're so. they're such a tightnit community you. know what I mean I'll just I'll say this.

I think that we should encourage women. to develop a. constitution. where not like a leral like the American. Constitution we need to develop a. constitution of character that so that. they don't feel compelled to go and get. plastic surgery and that they even take. some sort of pride in being like I don't. need to get I take so much pride in that. like again she says like indust lip.

filler little lip fill yeah okay but. like that dissolves that goes away. that's not permanent and lip filler not. the most invasive absolutely not it. takes like less than five minutes but. Nala I think you would be just as. attractive without the lip filler oh I. do too but for me it was like I really. wanted it like I was like I love my lips. I love my lip shape don't change the. shape of my lips just enlarge them a. little bit which you can also do with. some lip glosses like they plump your. lips like you know what I mean so for me.

that was like this is something super. minor and if I don't like it down the. line it will go away so that made me. really happy but again your thing is uh. anime right yeah yeah so but don't they. usually have small mouths I don't I mean. I think so most of the time but for me. I'm not like trying to look like an. anime this is just me and I'm into anime. and I cosplay but that's about it I'm. not like claiming to be an anime. character or anything no I phrases and. like that the cross I that's all like.

Japanese anime stuff has anyone ever. told you like that you're trying to like. appropriate like their like Japanese. Japanese culture cultural in fact I've. gotten like comp well I have a couple. Japanese friends who speak fluent in. Japanese and stuff and they're like so. happy for me that I'm engaging it this. way because they're like you're. respecting it you're trying to learn. about it you're not just watching anime. and claiming to be something which is.

that's fine they don't care anyway. they're all they do I think you'd be. surprised how much they actually care. Let's uh let me just get through some. chats and we are going to wrap here very. soon I think within five minutes. actually really quick question maybe for. the feminists here what is a stronger. feminist position saying that women. shouldn't get cosmetic surgery or saying. women should have the freedom because. I've heard both from feminists that it's. like some would argue ones like dorin. Andrea dorin would be like plastic.

surgery shaving she's like really. intense but like probably like a Dei for. example would be super pro women should. have the freedom to do whatever the. they want I think um personally I think. women should have the freedom however I. think it's important to keep in mind. that a lot of the things that we. consider to be like a free right to do. there's still like social influences. that go beyond that got it okay I was. going to say that's a big thing is like. if you're doing it because it's. something that you want to do and you're. not wanting to appease the other. opposite sex or get attention from them.

or be someone else or like exactly that. you should have the right to choose that. for yourself I feel like we always do. things to like appease to the other. group we want to be attracted to like we. wear makeup not like we when girls like. I wear. makeup I'll wear makeup at when I don't. go. out do you think your beauty standard is. informed because of like your personal. feelings or do you think your beauty. standard isn't formed by like what both. like men and women say is attractive in. women well honestly is the way I was. raised my mom wears makeup in house and.

also I'm sorry guys I do have to move on. I do have to move on if you guys want. you can get a final chat in we are going. to go go through the chats and then. we're going to wrap the show uh Jeremy. human wait did I already read this I. already read this he's submitted a lot. do you want me to milk him some more for. you uh maybe I should rephrase this so. the girl with the black hair can. understand think in head not say as do. he's like speaking bad think not make. bad person brain make many think not all. real think and do different that's even.

more confusing thinking gay thought. isn't bad being gay not. bad all right there you have it we have. uh loose energy just catching up. I'm a dude he's a dude she's a dude. we're all dudes of course you are uh uh. yep that if you s the D's L for the. whole uh uh colorful lady boy panel. Abdul you know what to do get the Rocks. Abdul yeah get the Rocks get the Rocks.

we have insert name here I'm lost I like. the red one can we get a little go. for Lord have mercy we must stay focused. Brothers we must stay F it's still. November no not November the last day my. guy actually I don't even think it is. isn't it like midnight no it's December. 1st you we made it we made it no. no all right hold on I got Yo I love you. aidite huge fan you actually brought me. here but your arguments argument is.

incoherent and your conclusions about. men tonight are asinine if the genitals. weren't part of the question it would be. closer to valid I'm about 90% sure that. that person doesn't love me isn't a fan. maybe a Jeremy ult um so again just. because you keep saying the AR argument. is incoherent it doesn't make that so. you have to supply evidence as to why. it's incoherent engaging in terrible. argumentation good job all right we have. the real Mr meatball dude I haven't seen. you in a while man welcome back thank. you man really appreciate your support I. know it sounds really good right now but.

only trashy folks like these get plastic. surgery. done plastic surgery who has plastic. surgery heree Botox than like most. people are getting men have botox like. so many men I just got my lashes I also. uh if your boyfriend wants you to like. is pushing you to get plastic surgery. red flag dump him period red flag dump. him red flag tell him to get plastic. surgery no literally tell him to get. aomy tell him to get a dick enlargement.

please and if your boyfriend is shaming. you for your large labia that's that's. up too call Brian call Brian yeah. DM are shame for I'll talk you out of. the LA. ofy okay um I'm just double checking oh. twitch guys go to twitch.tv whatever. drop us a follow drop us a prime sub. thank you everybody for ab check thank. for the 25 Community sub gifts really. appreciate man thank you everybody else. who uh has uh in followed on Twitch oh. yeah follow me on Instagram BD Atlas uh.

yeah check it out okay thank you guys. and uh I think we're all caught up on. every single thing uh y everything. everything hold up let me just double. check make sure I'm not missing anybody. uh oh last thing and do do you guys. think men only want one thing no no no. oh okay all right cool all right good. job um yes to be loved. okay I think they want food too I think.

men want unconditional love because they. feel like only women experience it. oh they get from their. mom that's true nurturing yeah yeah yeah. um I'm trying to think if there's. anything else if there's anything that. video what was the video oh no we don't. sound like an hour long out there's an. hour long video yeah okay guys.

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to my only fans I have a twitch twitch. Andrew's uh Andrew Wilson's The Crucible. the link for everybody's Instagrams just. for the clip yeah can you throw pixie. out no but physically off the railing. too wait why you yeah you got to do it. no you to kick a man off that would make. you the true liberal feminist that you. no that would make him the alpha pad cuz. he's the only man left man left with.

throw someone out you can throw me out. um I don't want to do like a stage get. out of here I don't want to do a stage. you been so bad. and um no I don't want I don't want to. do it but uh um I mean unless somebody. says some outlandish right now so it's. not stage but um I got nothing uh so. check out Andrew wion's Channel. um I can't it's okay it's okay um any. women who want to be on the show DM at.

whatever on Instagram we will be live. again Sunday at 5:00 P p.m. Pacific uh. thank you guys for tuning in to our. Thursday show we normally don't do. Thursday shows but did one today so uh. I'm trying to think of is there any I. feel like we're forgetting something is. there anything we're forgetting Michael. NS ran away from debating no no but tell. you what uh we are going to reschedule. that and uh KY I'd love to have you i'. if any of you would like to be on for. that we'll try to uh have that arranged.

if you guys would like to come back so. uh you I think all of you with Andrew. would or Andrew sorry Michael would be. fantastic show fantastic show okay guys. 07s in the chat I feel like I'm really. forgetting oh body count okay what's. everybody wait last minute just. go deep quick what's your body no idea. f is it I never like counted people. aren't like objects to. me no.

four I don't. know you don't know because it's CU it's. high do you want us a range H like a. what do you like if you gave us a range. what do you think probably. like above 40 above probably above 45 45. yeah 50 Maybe. yeah it's probably about 50 probably. more than 505 it's definitely under 70. maybe 60 under maybe 6 maybe 6 like it's.

up how many of those were. condensed into like the same like four. months of my life when I was 19 oh so. yeah 45 to 70 really I think they should. actually reset every year it's a it's a. range I think if it reset every year. then it' be lower and wait so that you. said it's uh let's say it's 50 to 60. right you said it was condensed into. what range like most of them were like. in the same like 3 months cuz I was I. grew up really like my mom was really. Catholic from the Philippines so I. couldn't like go out at all in high.

school and so when I like got out the. house I just started doing everything. ever I did I think I did most drugs. during those same few months I did a lot. of things during those few. months so if anything those bodies. should be forgiven they are they are. thank you so. much God forgives wait hold on I had. another out of question God. does forgive uh was there in a 24-hour. period was there what was I don't want. to answer this honestly but I think. it'll be funny 24-hour period most.

yolow it probably like three four. oh wow was it like all at once or I had. okay there was one time it was a train. of three and then there was one time it. was like three separate wow but like the. 24 is cuz like yeah I hope it was good. you took some math you were up all night. the reason it was three was cuz it. wasn't good like because it made me mad. that like it wasn't good the first one. and so I had to go again and the second. one was still bad and then the third.

time was valid so honestly I'm glad I. did three oh so you were chasing your. nut yeah okay like these the exactly. your nut the men have the guaranteed nut. why can't I get my. nut I've just learned to get more vocal. like you tell them what SE it's for them. to. have yeah it's so much more fun too when. you get more vocal like in the middle. hey I'm dry right now and is this fun. for you I think we should stop they'd be. like the people are telling me that. I missed a Super Chat did I read the one.

from Spyro flops Q for Andrew that name. but it's not showing up I'm sorry Spyro. I'm not able to actually pull it up but. I can go ahead and read it um I'm. wondering Nick is no I don't think. you're going to be able to find it C for. Andrew which of the women on the panel. would need the services of sexon Wilson. and Associates if each of them got. married or wait I did read this one. according to Andrew all of us wait also. everyone close your eyes let NSE talk. for 5 seconds ones in the chat if you. hear feminine Destiny oh wait did I I.

hey Spyro I'm very sorry it's not. showing up in. our uh streamyard so it's conspiracy. against you Spyro that's what's going on. indeed indeed okay are someone hates you. personally okay all right guys uh 07s in. the chat I still feel like what are we. forgetting are we oh we didn't sorry. sorry we you keep forgetting. uh do you know do you want to give range. or no no okay Alexa I can count on one.

hand okay all right good times good talk. Andrew what's your body count uh I mean. I don't I don't know I've never even. thought about it how high one did Andrew. Wilson have a ho damn I know can you. count it on one hand he has no virtue W. who or do you need two before or you. need your hands you don't want the. smoke you don't. have one or two or responding to any of.

this one two hand so you aerate for me. to talk about these I think had aerate. do you have a degenerate face it's cuz. his wife's watching James then why can. you count on one hand that's degenerate. if you can't count on one hand well it. wasn't like 145 or whatever you. said 140 is it 5 doesn't God forgive I. said most of them were like when I was. 19 thank God God forgives he had a whole. God forgave him he converted we're good. okay yeah good times good times okay all.

right guys 07s in the chat we'll see you. uh Sunday 5:00 p.m. Pacific good night. guys see you. bye.