MICHAEL KNOWLES vs. GEN Z GIRLS | Dating Talk #61

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I'm Fiona I'm 22. I'm unemployed. and I'm a writer yeah but I don't have a. real job yeah you're in Hollywood right. trying to be a writer okay. um I'm Sam I'm 19 and I'm a student at. UC or sbcc would you study film film. okay I'm Tatum I'm 18. I go to CC and. I'm doing General Ed. I'm Margarita and I have a rock band and. I'm 33. what's the name of your brand. it's called edge of paradise okay very.

cool thank you I'm Victoria I'm 20. I. study in Minerva University in San. Francisco I study business finance. I'm Michael I'm 32 I'm a genocidal. Maniac according to the newspapers but. yeah I in my real life I host a podcast. and write books. you bring the books by the way oh by. chance. um do you think the chocolate by the way. is there the chart we sold something.

like 20 tons of chocolate wow I don't. know that we have a single. yeah I want one I Mr Davies can you go. to Barnes Noble or something and get us. wait right now right now. we came here totally empty-handed and. that's so long it's all good. um what Michael you kind of undersell. yourself a little bit because you're. also an actor well yeah I think you. mentioned author but you're also a rap. critic and a music critic so that's true.

I'm known for my spicy hip-hop take so. if you guys have any questions about. popular music or like Zoomer culture or. anything I'm I'm pretty much he's an. expert yeah yeah. um and are you able to disclose your. alma mater Alma well I I guess I could I. I graduated from Yale but I think now. Yale is going to sue me if I claim that. I think they're going to basically uh. you know deprive me of my diploma. certainly by the end of this podcast. okay all right so we'll see we'll see.

how spicy you went to Yale but you. didn't go to Yale yeah okay yes I I say. I went to I think they would deny that. entirely got it got it okay so we're. gonna go around the table once more. current relationship status so single. situationship relationship and longest. relationship go ahead. um yeah I have a boyfriend and my. longest relationship was like two and a. half years. I'm single my longest relationship was. like a year and a half in college okay. um I'm single and my longest.

relationship was about two years. I'm single and I'm still single. I'm engaged and my longest been about 10. years Victoria before you go can I have. you scoot the microphone that way you. can have you scoot the microphone that. way. can you pull your microphone a little.

bit closer to you also I'm just we. should have done this before the show um. Eric can you grab a seat booster for Sam. here. Sam is what you're five four yeah I'm. average height the microphone's kind of. blocking you a little bit so okay uh. Victoria I'm single and I've never been. in a professional relationship so you. said your longest relationship was how. long it was like I was seeing the guy. for three months but it was not like a. social relationship. okay and Michael I'm married and I met.

my wife when we were 10 years old. and but it's a complicated history. because we she had a crush on me in the. eighth grade but I was dating the lead. of the Middle School play and then I had. a crush on her in ninth grade but she. was dating an upperclassman which was. very scandalous I thought and then we. dated in high school split for college. got together at the end of college now. we're married and have two children. that was an enthusiastic. been out there yeah this doesn't seem.

like a really pro-marriage crowd item. from that reaction wait is that like 100. True like yeah like yeah I wouldn't lie. oh it I. I thought you were being sarcastic. romantic sorry I thought you were being. like a joke. that can happen that's okay. I love again. you're used to being lied to can you go. into that a little bit Oh no just a lot.

of people like to lie so I don't know. like what to trust and like that's true. but are you talking in like in a. romantic context a lot of people lie to. you no just like in every sense I feel. like people lie a lot so it's hard like. you go to the grocery store everybody is. lying to you majority yeah it's like. there's no eggs in and then like there's. air in the back I know they're there so. they're lying that happens to me at. Trader Joe's I asked for the Persian. cucumbers and. they don't check yeah avocados they say. they do but they don't they never never.

do okay. um great so we got everyone's. relationship status so almost everyone. here with the exception of you and. Michael uh you guys are all returning. Kiko this is your I think fifth or sixth. appearance you guys this is your second. Victoria your third. um so just for you guys coming back now. uh. has anything changed since your last. appearance I believe that was about. three weeks ago you guys were last on. any new love interests or I mean there's. always new love interests.

no there I haven't like I mean there's. some guys but no nothing new some guys. what do you mean like obviously there's. people I see and I'm like oh wow maybe. there's a potential but now there's. nothing. okay because last time you were on you. mentioned that there was one guy that. I'm talking to is that dunzo or no we're. still talking. still oh go ahead Michael when you say. you're talking. um. you know I'm a very old man yeah I'm a.

millennial so I don't really I'm not. sure. I'm like the Boomer of consumers talking. means more than talking. um like in what sense more than speaking. to one another across a table as we are. now. more than literally talking yeah I mean. that's basically what we do is just talk. and hang out. okay so it's literally you're just but. you're in a way where you have affection. for one yeah okay. but you're not dating no but you might.

date. sure yeah okay are you guys hooking up. no. well that's good that's very virtual. about the cow I don't know right that's. good I'm not lying we're not hurting up. I think he's scared of you probably do. you think yeah I agree with that and I. think you think I'm lying but I'm not I. think these days though because how old. are you sorry I'm 19. and he's your age. um yeah he is my age I feel like these. days like younger guys they're afraid to. make the first move.

um yeah that's true I can see that but I. mean if I wanted to make a move I would. make a move I don't so does he want to. do more. and you've said no you've punted the. brakes or. I mean we've talked about it but like. it's not like we've we're both. enthusiastic for I mean I don't really. care for that right now I just it's not. like to hook up yeah to hook up all. right that's good that's good man that's. awesome I I was under the impression. that now because of like all of talking. culture that everyone just hooks up and.

it's all ambiguous and no one's ever. officially dating and it's all there's a. lot of that there's a lot there is. you're just not doing it I just hate it. oh yeah that's great I think it's stupid. allegedly stupid I'm a hopeless romantic. get it through your brain I want romance. but I just I'm busy with school and. getting my stuff straight first. Okay so. everyone else said they were single. pretty we'll accept you. um so kind of in line with Michael's. question what is talking or being single.

actually means so you said you're single. so there's no guy in the picture I'm. single I just mean I'm not like. officially dating officially okay so but. you are seeing somebody like dating. around yeah whether can you kind of okay. so since I've been on the podcast I've. gone on a couple dates. and then I have also been. seeing some other people can you uh be a. bit more specific.

uh they're like there is. um I am hooking up with a guy at the. moment but then I'm also have been going. on other dates for people that might be. a more. better match long term so you're you're. hooking up with just one guy so not. multiple guys but he's like the backup. because you're more interested in these. other guys that you're going on it's not. that I'm more interested it's just that. I feel like there's more of a. relationship connection that could be.

there on the like dates that I'm going. on you know it's more of like dinner. dates that I could see like we have more. in common in career and stuff like that. whereas this other guy I'm just he's not. a booty call I'm just very attracted to. him. he'll listen. this way then he'll definitely know. you're talking about him but so then why. why is he not long-term relationship. potential.

um because I don't think he's ready for. that he doesn't want it I don't think so. okay and I don't know not with him you. don't want it I mean I do I would like a. relationship at some point but I know in. my like I wouldn't want it with him even. though you're very attracted to him yeah. but I just know he's at a point in his. life where he's not ready for a. relationship like he should be alone he. has like inner work to do I probably. have inner work to do too. yeah can't you do that work though. together well he did also get out of a. relationship oh really um.

wow thank you was in my comment last how. you were on about the tongue acrobatics. that destroyed in your situationship I'm. not sorry for ruining you forever okay. hey Martin. um that by the way that is uh Marquis. Martin a uh Mensa member we call him. Mensa Martin and he uh he also he owns. about a dozen Quiznos Sam on the East. Coast did you say I own something else I.

that I I think that was a different. donator Mike Davis owns the Burger Kings. I forgot I think uh cheeks owns the. Orbeez and Martin owns the quizzes. Martin is the Quiznos guy who's okay. he's gonna single-handedly. um re-spark that franchise I didn't know. it still existed. oh maybe he's the holdout again.

they have him a lot I believe so. um Martin by the way thank you so much. for that uh big 200 uh dollar TTS thank. you man uh Tatum while your sister here. was telling us the story you were kind. of. smiling or making a face so um do you. have do you have some secrets you want. to reveal or no secrets I don't share my. sister's secrets so there you are. confirming though that Secrets exist in.

general in general yeah. you don't know everything about us Brian. badly unfortunately I'm hoping to expand. my understanding but so. can you just spill The Spill the Beans. what were you smiling about no it's just. funny. okay because like you guys don't know. him and I know him so what do you think. about him. she's right he's not boy yeah because. he's just a he's just a disaster he's. like a mess no he's nice is he hot in my.

opinion no. then what makes you not a boy he's. attractive I can see why she thinks he's. attractive she just has high standards. she's a different type we've already. been through that you said this high. standards we need to talk about the high. standards again he's attractive just not. if you have high standards is that that. seems so mean to me. yeah what is a high standard here like. what is the definition of high standards. for me just generally yeah like looks. oh so he's not attractive and now but.

attractive enough to sleep with. um I mean I think for her we just have. different types we have all the. different types all of us have different. types I mean I'm more General. yeah in general yeah like either way I. feel like I could like people from. different areas so one person from Idaho. San Diego yeah. um so then for YouTube what you guys. have very specific types.

what are the specific types that you. guys have. Tim do you want to say it I feel like. hers would be more not like skater boys. but like probably someone who's very. tall skater oh someone is very tall can. dress well. um skater boys like dark darker hair. well within okay darker hair no. definitely not blondes. um. what's wrong with blondes I don't know. she just doesn't there's nothing wrong. with them I just like have never really.

found myself attracted to a blonde and. for her she's probably sorry Ben wait. are you blonde. um so Skater Boy kind of not like a. skater boy it doesn't have to be but. like that kind of like look I feel like. okay bad boy type of look yeah but not. like the conventional like bad boy.

is very like. certain people I don't know yeah he's. got to be really well dressed but also a. bad boy but not like a bad boy bad boy. yeah he's got to be tall exactly but not. be a skater okay I got it he doesn't. have to skate yeah does anyone that. daily wire like one of the hosts do any. of them have blonde hair. no Candace's husband is very blonde he's.

taken he's married yeah unfortunately. you guys yeah she likes taking men. she likes taking women with single men. yes okay is there is there a term for. that is that like one of the new. homewrecker maybe. a relationship in high school oh good. times she didn't mean to intentional no. okay no it was an accident and it was a.

girl so that's why I said she likes. taking women she made out with a girl. and the boyfriend broke up with the girl. in high school yeah. it was crazy it goes down in high school. I feel in high school that's not a big. deal no my best friend. he he was not happy with it at all. so what about your specific type Surfers. for the most part she probably would. take blondes I will take blondes oh hair. color does not matter to me so you oh. you don't like blondes I got it mixed up.

no she doesn't like bronze oh so dark. hair yeah kind of edgy yeah I just. usually like skater boys find Eric can. you pull up a photo of Ben Shapiro oh. sure don't you know he's a surfer yeah. yeah well known yeah he's from L.A he's. a stoner right um. hold on okay well he's he's taken but.

showing up to the podcast goodness. gracious okay. um so your type of surfer boy for the. most part generally. generally surfable okay is what I tend.

to go for so she has high standards you. have normal standards. I think we need to see. the seats. posture checks I don't think she has. high standards I think okay just Tatum. no you do have high standards sorry. that's what I meant to say but it's just. not as high as Tatum I feel like Tatum's. even more picky I see there okay so you. said that you're there's a guy you're. hooking up with but while you're doing. that you are kind of exploring other.

options you're going on dates with other. guys. um so how long have you been seeing this. one guy that you're just hooking up with. um well I've known him for like a couple. years but we started talking again or we. saw each other again New Year's of this. new year so you reconnected yes yes but. so if you don't want to date him long. term you don't think he's the right. boyfriend material and you want to see. these other guys why would you waste. your time seeing him I don't think it's. wasting my time because it's like okay.

so he lives in Santa Barbara I live in. LA when I come. down up to see my family I see him. at points but if it's not going to go. anywhere because why wouldn't you spend. the time you go on another dinner date. or something I feel like I don't need a. boyfriend in Santa Barbara I probably. should date someone in LA but it's F I'm. sorry it's I kind of see him for the sex. okay. do women really do that I understand why. men do that because men are just.

constantly thinking about sex especially. when they're very young but like. do women really think that way I know I. know feminism pretends that women think. about sex the same way that men do but. um that's not real right I feel like we. they do I think they do I don't think. they get the same. um. like great orgasm that these guys are. getting from casual sex that's for sure. but I do think women think about sex. yeah I definitely feel like women think. about it at least we do I know but.

you're you're admitting that the. experience of it is totally different. for men and women yeah yeah but you're. saying that the Drive I mean no actually. once you get comfortable with someone. like once you're sleeping with them. enough I think the sex gets a lot better. A lot which is why I'm seeing this guy. where the sex is good because we've been. seeing each other but I you know I'm. like dating on other people or like but. don't you think the other guys that. you're dating might. frown upon it if you're sleeping with a. different guy no because they're.

sleeping with other people too probably. do you like it that they're sleeping. with other people too I mean I feel like. don't you want your needs met. you stumped me don't you don't you want. to fulfill your needs with one person to. whom you're attracted. attracted enough to any of the dates. I've been on yeah but like do you think. the fact that you're sleeping with this. guy consistently might have something to. do with that no no no it's a lie.

I tend to agree with you yeah I think. that's why I think because I'm thinking. about him while I'm with them because. your behavior is always going to color. any behavior that you're habitually. engaging is always going to color the. way that you view the world and so if. you're occupying your mind space and. your body and all these as you're saying. really powerful sensual emotions with. some dude that's obviously going to. color the way you think about romance. and love with any other guy you're going. on a date on it maybe that's why you're. not so interested in the other guys how. come guys can do that so easily though. like I feel like I know guys can go and.

[ __ ] women and find this like amazing. intimate experience but then they can. actually find a girl who they respect. and like and then date them so how come. it's different for men and women men. doesn't compartmentalize bet a little. bit better that way and men can treat. sex as purely physical a little bit. better but even for men if if even for. men it's somewhat difficult you can't. actually separate yeah see I feel like. it would be like I don't know have you. met my dad oh yeah true yeah really yeah. yeah he can yeah you really can that's. unfortunate to hear should should he. come on the podcast yeah probably he. wanted to come on tonight oh no okay oh.

that was that why you guys were asking. if a guy could you know we had someone. else that was a different guy friend. okay. no but her dad would be fun to be on the. podcast doesn't he like go the. Philippine what was the story oh. Thailand he's a passport bro he's a. passport bro yeah except he's just going. there to [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah he's not. going to marry them he's just going to. [ __ ] okay is he is he involved with like. MMA or something or you. oh.

he used to be a boxer okay I see yeah. okay but that's why he would go to. Thailand just to train or whatever no. just to purely. sites. aka the women yeah the beaches and the. beaches okay wait so uh really quick. just on this thing so. um. do the guys that you're going on dates. with do they know that you're hooking up. with someone else or do you just kind of. it's not something you I mean we don't. really talk about that I feel like we.

get to know each other. in other ways and you've said you've. been on a few dates how many dates have. you in the past month or something since. last podcast just two oh just two okay. one well hasn't it only been two weeks. it was Valentine's Day I think so it's. been three weeks so two only two I think. three four. I think only two okay and then Sam um so. you're seeing one guy right now it's it. sounds a bit more serious but you. haven't.

you're not boyfriend girlfriend you guys. haven't hooked up or anything. um are you also going on dates with. other people you're just seeing him but. it's not official yet so yeah Tatum what. about you you're not going on dates no. do you have a a guy you occasionally see. your friends with benefits uh uh nobody. or no no. nothing no no I'm strictly focusing on. my school. that's great and like partying.

and life and partying yeah isn't there a. Temptation when you go out to party so. this is where uh two blocks away from. UCSB we're here now Vista number one. party school well frequently ranked the. number one party school in the U.S I. love this a really big party uh party. scene you guys go out to IV the party or. do you go yeah occasionally occasionally. how frequently would you guys say you go. out and party I feel like it depends on. the season yeah in the winter not as. much Sam can I have you just scoot your. mic a little closer towards you to the.

edge of the table perfect. it's the end of the season it depends on. the season oh it depends like if it's. winter I feel like colder yeah I. wouldn't go out that much but during the. summer I probably would be out there a. lot okay how frequently would you guys. party during the summer like multiple. times a week three four times a week. like three times a week four three four. for her I can't do it okay got it okay I. get tired out. okay so when's the last have you when's. the last time you've been on a date.

or oh my God PTSD I'm not talking about. it though you can't just put that out. there. oh God is it is it related to essay no. no oh okay. PTSD like he just it just like uh she. sees him around campus is it yeah yeah. yeah it was just awkward I went to the.

um this guy's house that I started. damning. and I never met him in person before and. like the first thing we decided to do. was smoke and. I love to smoke but I can't like either. marijuana oh okay yeah sorry I'm sorry. um where did you meet him really quick. through Instagram Instagram. udmed him no he dm'd me he dm'd you yeah. and we like texted for a little. um and then we stopped and then he hit.

me up again like this past fall. and. he was like we should smoke soon and I. was like yeah I don't know why I said. that I can't smoke in front of people I. don't know and we decided to do it at. his house which that was also just weird. it was a weird experience altogether I. don't like being high in front of like. newcomers. so wasn't he like. he was just being yeah he was being the. classic the classic but what's the.

classic wait why are you all the way. over there come sit on the bed it's more. comfortable. you see my red LED lights. but I also was getting just like major X. because I was high. and did you not have the major Ricks. before you guys smoked. um I literally like met him at his house. like I had never like talked to or met. or seen this dude in person she just. went straight to his house yeah no we.

met on campus and we like met in the. parking lot and then he's like okay. here's my here's my address like just. meet me there just a knight in shining. armor. I'm sorry where you end up on the news. the next day yeah. sounds so bad I'm sorry is there more to. this no there really isn't it was just. like I I ghosted him after that and he. just texted me a couple times like.

what did I do what should he have done. differently so he slides into your DMs. like how could it work we just shouldn't. have because he's like let's smoke at my. house and I don't know why I agreed to. that but like that should not have been. my first interaction with the dude like. first of all I should have been sober. and second of all like I don't feel like. I should have met him at his house yeah. yeah like a stranger I've never met this. fool before right yeah you guys should. like met out of restaurants yeah I don't. know what was going through my head.

um. and then but he's text me that on. Instagram and I opened it and I totally. forgot that there's like red receipts I. was just like LOL. and I like to play my phone side. and he was like wow I see how it is it. wasn't nice knowing you. it's so rude yeah for me for him to say. that to you was it nice well I kept I. ghosted him yeah yeah I almost gave her.

the X yeah everything he did was very. unchivalrous and I also think that. sometimes when you do DM them back and. you're you try to be like platonically. nice they can take it the wrong way so. yeah you get yourself in more of a yeah. like oh I don't want to string them long. but like maybe we could be friends but. they probably don't want that yeah. and he like invited me over multiple. times like after that and like right. after I left and I was like oh yeah no. he texted me like 15 minutes after I.

left like you should come back. yo turn that car around yeah but I'd see. him on campus all the time and it would. like literally like shoot my heart rate. up and I I don't know why. what kind of a guy is he though is he a. normal guy on the side. you can't discuss the the looks just. probably not your like conventional guy. yeah you know did he have a mullet no. but he's antisocial I'd say hmm so just.

your type. yeah but I do like more social guys okay. so two anti two anti-social like I said. very picky. sorry guys apology accepted. um last question before we move on into. some of our uh main topics and we do. need to get a couple super chats here. um have has anyone here had a hoe face. Kiko.

I wasn't making assumptions I was just. asking if you've had. I mean. I feel like. most people have their whole face it. just depends on like if you mean ho in. retrospect to my usual or like hoe as in. like would for like the normal of. everybody because and I would if. compared to abnormal terms no I wouldn't.

consider it a health phase but like it. was out of mine or. did you smoke before the show no I'm. like getting over a cold okay do I sound. raspy a little bit I wasn't sure what. that no totally fine I already took. antibiotics though so I'm good okay. really quick just on your thing so you. you're are you still bartending yeah. okay you said some of your bartending. friends uh they. have. they've had major phases.

I wouldn't really call it a phase if. it's a lifestyle oh it's there's a. continuity yeah I mean I don't mean just. like my bartending friends I mean all. the other ones I mean no no I just mean. like people I've met since bartending. okay that makes sense so what I guess. for the lifestyle you know what how much. of a body count are we talking here when. we're talking like can you tell us like. the highest maybe the top three you've. heard from from some girls I couldn't. tell you the top three for the highest. I've ever heard from a girl.

it was like 3 40 something what. 340 something killed that many people is. that what bodycon uh partners partners. oh man because I I'm like actually not a. prude and I you know I'm from New York. and I'm like. I the highest I've ever heard is like a. hundred and I thought that was the. craziest number I'm hearing that from. I've heard way higher too than what then. like 340 I've heard people like I'm just. saying 100's the highest you've heard.

yeah. and I thought that was crazy it is crazy. but I feel like I've heard but have you. heard it from guys or girls because guys. always inflate their number and women. that's like true you're right you're. right you're right there's a guy I'll. say oh yeah probably about ten thousand. Genghis Khan didn't sleep with ten. thousand women yeah it's not real 340. I. don't think it was it was around 3 40. I. think it was like 346 if I remember. exactly what about some other high. numbers that no I live ever since then I. can't even remember anything else.

uh that's all I can remember from from. your other friends yeah that's I. everything else after that and unless. it's 100 plus yeah there's a few of. those a couple a few hundred plus okay. who has that much time 340. I know I. know I think it's people because it's. like. if they're if they're just a promiscuous. person they've probably been like this. since they were like 16 most of these. people were like 30 that I'm saying. that's 12 years that's a lot of time to. do some damage if you really think about. it especially if you've never been in a.

long-term relationship so you have time. to just keep going at it. that is time to collect some cards. because I sometimes think back in my. I've had very brief single days and I. think oh man I was an atheist I was a. you know total derelict and I thought oh. wow that was really crazy but then you. think well what if people just had that. period of time. times 10 right yeah and which a lot of. people do right wow so. phase I mean what do you consider a.

whole face like what's your definition. of a hope well what's your sense of it. I would say going out. getting hammered a lot. and screwing a lot of dudes. seems like a fair definition. I. I kind of the same thing like I would. consider what I had at one point as a. hopes I don't think the average person. would or that a full-blown whole phase. but like to each their own I guess you.

know. okay. Sam what about you um I didn't really. have a whole face I had a player phase. where I just like knocked out a whole. fan groups and like killed Alder I was. like going through it and I am. I like played a whole fan group on. accident. what's the distinction between. a a hoe phase and a player phase because. I didn't like do anything with them I. just. talked like talk to them and texted them. and played the field and then like one.

by one like made them like me just for. fun so it's just for ego no it wasn't. for ego I actually like had crushes on. these people and then like I like pick. realized like I think I picked the wrong. one I actually like that one more and. then it happened it only was three of. them but the whole friend group didn't. end up liking me so. indecisiveness yeah it was purely. understandable when I was in I ended up. dating one of them for two years so I. really was trying to like be a player. player I just was indecisive they call.

that a sweet complete when I was in. college and the girl was every single. guy in the suite. maybe not yet maybe in the future in the. works maybe yeah you're gonna have to. lower your standard side for that well. maybe they will lower or you'll just. have a string of. skater or boys. yeah I hear a train at first I was. thinking your high standards were a bad. thing because it would be very hard to.

meet a guy but maybe that's a great. thing because you've avoided the whole. phase because you have very high. standards even though they're oddly. specific okay that's good. yeah. actually kind of on that topic well I'll. let the table finish have you ever had a. office. um no it takes a lot for me to um I. guess like someone. no I don't think okay. no. Michael have you ever had a whole face a.

lady doesn't tell Brian okay okay. um well I sort of alluded to it you know. I was uh derelict once a year I went to. Yale and Yale's a party Yale's a weird. campus man Yale is known for. like weird secret society rituals and. getting naked that's basically I mean. yeah they would do all this crazy stuff. I think back on it now they would have. sex week every two years they would. bring in porn stars to give lectures. yeah good times yeah and it's all these. I was kind of wondering there are porn.

stars back in your day you know actually. back in the 19th century it was 1878 it. was the huge porn star ever oh awesome. yeah and yeah old old Abraham it was. yeah he wasn't very beautiful on the. first camera yeah. yeah I wonder though when I got to Yale. I thought why are all of these people so. promiscuous like why is everyone you. wouldn't necessarily expect that and I. realized you think about the people who.

you might have known in high school who. went to Yale were probably fairly nerdy. fairly studious maybe didn't go out that. much probably didn't go to a ton of. parties you know and so they were just. these Penta balls of lust and gluttony. and drunkenness and then they just. explode and it's yeah well they say when. like you have really. um strict parenting as a high schooler. where you're not allowed to go out a lot. once you hit college and you have no.

rules they kind of go off the walls and. like the partying the drinking and all. that I had roommates like that I went to. NYU and my roommates man my dad was like. oh you have really nice roommates they. must have had great parents wow by the. way I'm getting reports that we have. almost 6. 000 live viewers in the chat this is a a. record for whatever so the chat is on. fire I had to uh I had to boost. unfortunately the uh time between chat.

messages but um yeah guys thank you so. much for uh tuning in we're about to get. into some of our more uh spicy questions. here one question on your high standards. so is there just like an absurd. ridiculous deal breaker you have like. that in terms of your high standards. like if a dude. he's got like weird knees or something. just some like random. totally unimportant thing that's a deal. breaker for you disease yeah okay. honestly like this might sound really.

shallow but a lot of the high standards. like comes from the looks like the looks. people's looks are the first thing I. look at and then like past that it's. like personality and like whatever else. so if it had to do something with their. like their looks that like stood out is. that what you mean. yeah like maybe uh they they have two. two different colored socks or something. like that or weird nipples weirdness. I've seen that and I'm like no weird. nipples weird nipples and you're like no.

yeah that's like a deal breaker for you. I feel like for guys it's much easier. because guys they can be very attractive. and not your like stereotypical. attractive but you know I agree with you. yeah. sometimes you just attracted to someone. and you don't know why yeah but you're. attracted to them and everyone else is. like what and you're like but they have. like them yeah you say I find this guy. so attractive he's got a great job he's. you know really a great family and it. drives a fast car but his nipples just.

unfortunately too weird so there it goes. yeah that happens out with the old books. all right we're going to do a couple uh. chats here so uh guys if you want uh. check out the description for all Super. China donation triggers if you want it. to be read TTS we had to boost it to 200. just to uh preserve the flow of the show. uh we have Stifler here you know what. we'll come back to that one from. Stiffler uh M1 grand asks would any of. the girls date a guy who is pro-gon and.

owns a firearm sure yes for sure let's. just go one by one here go ahead yes yes. yes yes I'm with one that owns it yeah. oh okay yes. all right I bet they didn't see that one. coming would you would you all consider. yourself to be conservative or. right-wing and is that why you would. date a guy who's no no no I just. hopefully I mean we have guns yeah I. don't think the gun issue has to be on. either side I don't think you have to be.

a conservative to uh like be pro-gun. yeah not saying what my political stance. is that's all I'm saying I have heard. that there are definitely people who are. on the left who are in favor of gun. ownership and gun rights yeah I I have. heard that but uh. I think amongst for example Democrats if. we kind of differentiate Democrats and. people who are left leaning. um. there is Democrats typically are not so. much in favor of I think yeah because I.

was just sort of wondering if you happen. to be more left-wing if you find. yourself attracted to the someone who. has all these stereotypically right-wing. characteristics like gun ownership. I feel like I'm not typically attracted. to someone who has right-wing like. ideals but I wouldn't mind a gun like. that's not something that's going to. make me be like no I feel like these. days you have to I mean if you have a. family you got to protect someone you. have to be responsible. I'm more left-leaning I wouldn't.

consider myself a Democrat. um but I usually am more attracted to. more right-wing people of anything what. do you think that is good question. um. I don't know I've never really thought. about it we have time. oh wonderful. can I come back because I I would have. guessed that I would guess most women. even if they say I'm liberal or I'm. left-wing ultimately especially if. you're thinking for a guy more long term.

but even in the short term you're. probably not attracted to some guy who's. like wearing dresses or is super like. makes you pay the check or is kind of. you know like a soy boy yeah. um I wouldn't say all that I see. um. I could see where you are going with. that though and why people who believe. the same things as you would see that. um it's just for me since I said I am. left leaning not fully a Democrat I.

don't I find myself yeah I'm not fully. agreeing with a lot of things. um that a lot of like full Democrats. believe whereas I always I don't always. believe things up will conservatives. believe but we'll find a middle ground. easier than I will with the. really really democratical people. just say you don't like soy boys. or maybe you do I don't know maybe I. mean I really couldn't say that since. like I've dated girls so it's like. that's like and also I feel like um. feminine men can be very attractive like.

very attractive and I think men that a. lot of people who are younger. the younger generation. feminine men no um I feel like a lot of. the guys that girls nowadays find. attractive are very feminine what do you. mean by that like look at Harry Styles I. feel like he's a very famous well he has. a lot of status too but I still feel. like I I mean personally he doesn't do. it for me but I know a lot of girls who. do like him and Harry Styles. feminine looking yeah but just because.

there were dresses it doesn't like I. don't know what makes them feminine um. like he like he seems very he doesn't. seem like super like you know gym rap. masculine like big big guy no they're. very like skinny scrawny like slender. men like I feel like coming inside yes. and they're very like soft they come off. soft not like someone who's very strong. and aggressive and I feel like a lot of. times women find that attractive I think. younger women tend to find more feminine.

men a bit more attractive but I think as. women start to get older they do start. leaning more and more towards more like. more masculine men or it could just be. like a generational thing. it could be just like the way that our. generation is versus other Generations. more regional thing too yeah well I also. think there's a component of social. proof too because if all the other women. find him attractive it's almost this. this uh if the other girls find him. attractive oh well. other women will find them attractive.

too so really quick on the women. really quick on the women finding. feminine men more attractive and Michael. maybe you've heard of this I've heard. that women who take birth control uh. tend to and I maybe it's something with. how the hormones are changing them. um tend to find men with more feminine. character characteristics attractive. when they're on birth control I would. believe that because I'm now convinced. birth control just poison I think it. changes your brain oh it does it does.

you and you you have you sort of. experienced this or this is the stories. you've heard from people no I think a. lot I've been on multiple different. types of birth control and I feel like. they've all affected me differently in. different ways and I feel like birth. control shouldn't affect you and you're. like brain because they tell you they. say oh this isn't going to affect. anything about your body it's like well. I don't know I'm taking a bunch of. hormones constantly like I don't know if. I do cookie at lunch it affects the way. that I feel yeah I think pumping myself. on hormones will do that yeah I feel. like I'm like the rare case where if one. if anything since having an IUD and.

never took birth control before having. an IUD. um in the end of 2020 middle of 2020. before that if anything I dated more. woman more feminine men and ever since. then I've dated more masculine men and I. also like. yeah maybe hormonal ID it is. um I don't know I just I feel like I. haven't seen. my boobs got bigger at first but they. went back down that's like literally the. only thing I noticed yeah my titties I.

went from like a solid like b cup to. like a solid like full D with right away. but then they went away they deflated. again but do you think the reason that. you started dating more masculine men. once you got on birth control was just. in your mind you had less of a fear of. getting pregnant so you said okay now. I'm not going to date women or whatever. damn I never. thought of that. you like to play cards I I consider. myself a love doctor a good one.

Michael is the new co-host of the show. we've poached him from the daily wire. back to Santa Barbara you're asking all. the questions yeah so okay uh let's do a. couple uh chats here so we have everyone. seemed to be fine with a guy who is a. program and owns Firearms we've got to. remind you oh yeah do you wanna we'll do. uh the shout out the twitch people. really quick. by the way guys. um if you have a Twitch account go to. twitch.tv slash whatever give us a. follow and if you have an Amazon Prime. sub uh drop us a sub if you can.

um twitch.tv slash whatever thank you. guys all right so we have Richard. contini Jr here thank you thank you for. the 50 man appreciate it uh by the way. does anyone want to be the designated. Super Chat reader who's got a good day I. was reading something women are not used. to being forced to think what does that. mean. uh that that is that's I'm not sure um. does anyone have a good reading voice. Tatum here how about you get this one I.

can't I'm just kind of a little sick. right now oh okay but uh here how about. Kiko. oh sorry I that one's getting all. covered up my bad. uh Kika you want to read this one. these girls have no idea what's about to. happen Michael you're an awesome guy I. Love Your Daily Show well thank you for. saying that Kiko I appreciate that it. came from the heart she endorses her. show by the way it's great I'm gonna put. it back ready flip it and ship it all.

right we have a Rob CD thank you for the. 50 Rob appreciate it where can I get. those old school Isla Vista posters is. Ivy store still open hail Gauchos I. assume you're talking about that couch. photo that I use in the intro um yeah I. think uh. I think it's available on. Fine Art America I think you can get it. there thank you Rob appreciate it uh. American Grizzly thank you for the 75. man appreciate it uh love the show Brian. long time follower of Knowles and daily. wire love to see you're coming to.

Buffalo. um I'm already seeing protests starting. best of luck because I'm very. intimidating you know we were just. talking about those like gym rat very. imposing dudes and so it's like they. they know when I'm coming oh they can. sense you they can like it's my. pheromones I think someone called to. Channing Tatum that's what people say it. all the time many people are talking. about it yeah do you know any martial. arts I actually I did briefly train in. what I call Krav Maga at Jeremy boring's.

house okay oh it's also known as Jujitsu. and so I trained in that for a while and. it was it was awful it was horrible I'd. wake up early I'd have to like my Jiu. Jitsu is when you use more your legs but. this is jujitsu it's also known as Krav. Maga and uh and you know it's like very. fighting kind of dirty and yeah it was a. hassle man. you want to do that yeah I'm a lover not. a fighter I realize that.

yeah it's like nurturing your actions. would be masculine but you would. understand it's hypothematic wow I don't.

think you come off feminine at all I. just don't think you come off as toxic. like masculine. like I don't I don't really see it's a. group of feminine but you're just not. yeah. he's Satan right there I'm the toxic one. yeah yeah the toxic masculinity is I. feel like yeah. you're either toxic. there's no just normal masculine anymore.

I think actually you raised a great. point because when you see people bring. up toxic masculinity and a lot of times. people bring it up because they just. hate masculinity so they say you know. all masculinity is toxic but there is a. toxic kind of masculinity right there is. a way where men who have basically have. no good Role Models just decide to. perform to try to pretend they're Conan. the Barbarian or something like that and. it's very silly just. yeah it just always looks like you're. overcompensating for something yeah yeah.

right so if I mean I I sort of almost. reject this concept of toxic masculinity. because I feel like it needlessly. genders because you have Behavior. because I have am I toxically masculine. but I feel like how do you really feel I. feel like there definitely is toxic. masculinity I don't think all. masculinity yeah. I mean some people tell me that you kind. of like blame women a lot it's like you. put like a lot of therapists that's a. toxic masculinity where are you kind of. I blame yeah you blame women I feel like.

you have this like I I don't blame women. it's like you tell their lie you kind of. create this image and a woman I'm bad. and you continuously put it out there. for young men to like be like oh I don't. wanna get married like I will just date. women for like as long as I want why not. that you don't want to get married no no. no why not oh all right. one two three all right one V7 okay. um well so.

I I'm not opposed to necessarily having. a life partner but there there are there. are certain. sorry I'm sorry Michael there are. certain realities when it comes to to. marriage that from the male perspective. make it seem uh risky oh only from the. male perspective because I can feel like. well it's also men are female how so I. think you've never been in love I feel. like yeah if you're very at risk factor. I feel like it goes both ways yeah okay.

they're turning on me well it's but to. your point Brian you you know you make a. good amount of money you the way the. judicial system works if a woman. divorced you she could take a bunch of. your money she could take your kids so. there's a risk but my question is if. you're already going to have a life. partner which sounds I'm sorry to say. kind of gay like it's not it's not. gendered it's not traditional thank you. for saying that it's just so if you're. gonna do that anyway why and but you. want to protect against divorce why not. just marry a woman who's not going to.

get divorced or get a prenup okay you. know yeah literally So you you're saying. like well if you find the a great woman. that you know that's no not even just. that I'm saying because you know you. could find the most wonderful woman in. the world and then I don't know someday. something goes off in her brain and she. totally turns on you but what if you. create the structures such that you're. not going to get divorced I'll give you. an example I'm Catholic my wife and I. cannot get divorced she could murder me. that would be her way out of the. marriage but we can it is not possible.

for us to get divorced now if you let's. say you're not Catholic yet and maybe. you don't you know you have you haven't. worked through these things maybe what. did you say yes. what if before you get married you sign. a prenup but not the kind of prenup now. not the kind of prenup where you say. okay in case we get divorced you know we. get 50 50. what if you signed a prenup. that says if you divorce I will kill you. yeah I'll kill you whoever brings the. divorce forfeits everything that's.

called that's the Knowles prenup and. then you're and then you're safe you're. not going to take your kids or she's not. gonna take your money and you get to be. married you should not have a life. partner sure I mean I've I I'd love to. bring on like uh a family attorney to. ask him questions about this but kind of. what I've heard in my understanding when. it comes to prenuptial agreements is. that oftentimes they can be thrown out. and they don't I I don't think prenups. can apply to uh post marriage so you can. protect your assets that you've acquired. pre-marriage I could be totally off base.

here but I've heard prenups can get. thrown out someone could say oh I was. assigned it under duress bottle of Lies. unfair it's um there's a specific term. for it that's uh evading me right now. it's um but is that why you don't want. to get married because you're afraid of. the divorce potentially afraid of woman. Why Not Just Dance issues. um like if you dated another successful. woman wouldn't that fear kind disappear.

because then if anything it's like you. know she could be scared of you what if. she's more stupid money or something. what if she's making more money than you. are yeah like why are we asleep you want. a wife right I mean you you want to not. apparently not maybe he wants to do he. wants a life partner Mike he wants a. life partner yeah well you're right okay. you know what's big now with virtual. virtual girlfriends sexual wives. or is it virtual one he wants a dog that.

speaks English yeah but she can take and. that he wouldn't but it's like a thing. in the future now you can have a virtue. it's like an AI but it's interesting. why don't you just put all your faces. into us and we can figure it out yeah. we'll figure out all your lovely we. really want to get to the root of this. problem yeah I I just I. I don't see the the benefits don't well. this is why I asked don't you want a. wife companion there I can have a. companion and not be married and I'm not.

a fan of the government so I don't want. the government involved in my life. someone more than 10 years you're gonna. be illegally legally. well not that's only some states not all. states have common law marriage. California we do I don't know how long. no California does not have common law. marriage. my parents are by that. no no I'm pretty sure California is not. common level yeah no that's the only. reason Google it. is. but they've never been they haven't been.

dating since 2001. here Colorado Iowa. Kansas Montana New Hampshire Oklahoma. Rhode Island South Carolina Texas Utah. and DC. those are the only uh according to this. Sterling you're very quick Google search. so yeah it's I think it's a minority of. states that have common law marriage but. yes that is a risk factor in those. States if if you are cohabitating with. somebody and you almost treat your. relationship as if you're married then. you are basically in the eyes of the law.

you are married. uh luckily in California which I don't. know how much longer I'm going to stay. here. um I'm probably going to get canceled by. proxy because Michael's on the show but. um uh just kidding but maybe kidding I. don't know you probably the Franchise. Tax Board is going to come and evict you. probably scary stuff um so I don't have. anything against for other people I. that's great I just I've sort of looked. at the the numbers I've done the. calculus and it just to me it seems like. here I'll put the math here here I've.

done the math you know 50 of marriages. end in divorce and the stats I've seen. 80 of divorces are initiated by women. and so when I say it it's bad for the. man Devore um the the negative. consequences of divorce typically tend. to disproportionately impact men they. can impact women but I mean I think 97. of it's like 97 of alimony payments go. from men to women so there there are.

some concerns there financially and then. just you have the government involved. and then it can be quite contentious and. then not only is there the consideration. in terms of splitting your assets but. then you have lawyers involved and I. don't have anything necessarily wrong. perhaps from a religious perspective. with marriage but when the state's. involved and I think we. ought to perhaps rewrite marriage laws. to perhaps incentivize men to get. married again because you have no fault.

divorce yeah and um. what's the other thing and then. um you know your wife could cheat on you. and then take half your [ __ ] I think. under certain circumstances if you can. prove it in a courtroom that perhaps you. shouldn't be on the hook for alimony if. there's been some infidelity for example. you're saying so that you could dump. your wife if she cheats on you. yes without any Financial hurts. your question they're always worried. about like something gonna happen bad. like when you just like you have no.

trust and faith and I think it's the. society let me ask you a question let me. ask you a question so how many people. get married and they think hey this is. the person I love we're gonna be. together forever. and then you you hear that divorce rate. it's like 50 of marriages end in divorce. I think when people get married very. young right but isn't that the best time. to get married. I didn't get married young though I've. only been married now about five years.

but I should have gotten married younger. it's one of my quasi regrets in life but. some of the best marriages I've ever. seen were people who got married 20. years old or 22 or 23 years old I just. wonder Brian because all the objections. you're raising are completely legit I. just wonder if you you are looking at an. alternative that doesn't really exist. that's illusory because if you're. thinking okay I'm gonna have more. freedom. if I don't get married I don't know if. that's true you know if you're always in. one of these situations even if you're. just dating where you think well where.

are we where do we stand is he going to. leave me is this that is in a marriage. in a proper marriage all that is gone. and so you think I had a bad day I got. in a fight with my wife I didn't do the. laundry whatever doesn't matter. especially if you believe in marriage. like marriage really is you say this is. an institution defined by real things I. made a covenant before God and the. political Community I signed up with the. government they're going to take my. money if I break this Covenant and that. actually it seems like it puts. limitations on you but it actually gives. you a ton of freedom because you can.

think oh. I'm here we're in this there's no. there's no getting out there's no way. out but through and so we're just going. to make this thing work I I find it's a. very freeing experience what if you also. meet someone and just like I want to get. married then you're in love with this. girl what is it a deal breaker for you. I have not crossed that someone hasn't. found that that road yet but um I don't. know I mean my my thinking on this is. just you should never sign a contract. with someone who is rewarded for. breaking it and in today's day and age.

often times if you. break the marriage contract you there. are certain Financial benefits that you. can read people get married in another. country and then you don't have to. passport grows we are. I think. maybe actually you know what's happening. in Japan because women can't find. there's not enough guys so there's a. thing where they have one woman wedding. because all these girls want to get. married Tokyo here I come you know what. Michael you've convinced me to get.

married in fact Eric if you can hide. this. um. like last time you reached for it you. just had that ready I had it ready he. knew you were coming he already knew. Tatum. will you marry me. yeah okay put it. thank you Michael you're the best winged. man ever congratulations.

Brian I will be divorcing you at the end. of this podcast this is wonderful all. right can can you do a little uh Beyonce. all right okay look at that. nice some people in the back all right. Tatum Atlas okay cool. um. what what's this she's keeping the last. name wait are we hyphenating no no no no. no no no no no no they're both Gonna. Know You're Not Gonna Keep your last. name but then our family's name runs out. yeah there's two girls only two girls.

yeah the only two girls well that's the. way things shake out right I mean your. your family's name is either going to be. your husband's name or your father's. name why because that's what your last. name is but why can't I want to keep my. father's last name so I'll just keep my. father's last name if I get married. why Fiona Flynn have you heard that. that's a great that's a nice name I'm. not you know I have friends who married. guys with horrible last names but it's. kind of weird. EST girlfriend when you get married you. would keep your father's last name no no.

you wouldn't I wanted she's talked about. it. unless the last name unless the last. name is really awesome. yeah I like my last name too doesn't. that feel like you're not really getting. married then no you're not really for me. no I mean if you're devoted to each. other in every way possible I don't. think it's very trivial part of it your. name is what you are called identified. that is not what I'm called can I ask. you a question so if you have kids right. are they gonna take your husband's last. name or yours or you're gonna hyphenate.

it do you don't want kids no why not. because I just don't want to bring kids. into the world right now so or any time. from the way the world's looking the. world's always looking bad for thousands. of years but you got born we were. talking about that we were around you're. not happy about that I don't believe. you're smiling I don't believe that. person I'm happy about it that's really. sad to you that's fair I don't believe. that for a second if there's it's I mean. there's pros and cons but I mean I just. I don't know I feel like it's a very I.

mean being a parent's a very serious. thing I don't feel like a lot of people. take it serious enough and I feel like. there's a lot of kids in this world who. have bad parents or who are dealing with. trauma from parents and it's affecting. the way these people are raised and like. the people in our community and how they. come out and I just don't want to be at. fault for like giving no you sound like. him though now you're doing you're all. doing this thing where you're like I. don't want any responsibility no no I. would like I if it happens it happens. but I'm not like planning on having kids. I mean she'd also adopt if she feels.

like she needs yeah I feel like I would. adopt before I actually advocated. hi and she'll fit yeah you would also. guys want to adopt like we're having. your own like giving birth I don't know. like there's so many kids out there but. there's a lot of kids but like so then. are you gonna adopt someone of your own. culture or are you gonna like Branch out. I don't know if I were to adopt it we're. not adopting oh she's divorcing you. actually yeah I told you I'm divorcing. you after this I'm taking half your.

podcast. who are you taking. who if you're getting half the podcast. who do you take with me. Eric I'm taking Aaron. Eric deserves better. okay. um Good Times uh just the last thing on. the marriage thing and we'll get to uh. some of the super chats so I I guess. kind of my one of my qualms with. marriage is. you know I I people's people don't. really commit anymore evidenced by well.

generally speaking obviously people have. a healthy. marriages that work out and go the. distance but uh you know the vows that. you say when you get married till death. do us part that has to mean something if. if your words mean nothing then. like for me if I get married if I were. to get married that is foreign yeah. you're already divorcing me hello you. would be part of a Goods change hello I. do have a skateboard by the way oh god.

oh you should see the trucks. can you do any tricks on it. it's been a minute since I've uh this is. why she's divorcing you Brian what hey. oh here's a good question do you know. where the mall grab is. I know what a mall grab is yeah what's a. mall grab. Tatum you like skater boys and you don't. even know these terms a mall grab is. when you grab when you're carrying the.

skateboard you don't grab by the trucks. do that posers like you're walking. around the mall with your skateboard but. you don't skateboard so you grab it by. the trucks that's called a mall grab do. you know what a ram [ __ ] is. he sounds like an upset up yeah. but um no the the valves you make when. you get married till death do us part to. me that has to actually mean something. and I you know. perhaps I'm uh you're not a bit. pessimistic but when I see the divorce.

rate it makes me take pause and I think. look how many of these people that are. that are getting married. have the best intentions in mind and. they love this person and they think I'm. going to spend the rest of my life with. this person and then one two three years. down the road the the marriage. uh is done this divorce no they're. actually they're still together they had. a terrible marriage no they're happily. married there is this example he's. coming from my parents have a very. healthy relationship they're still.

married actually that's a picture of. them right there them two right there. that's a great don't you want that yeah. don't you want yeah I do but I have to. be I guess realistic about that. I have to be realistic about the current. dating landscape and go to micro how. long have you been married I've been. married now five years coming up on five. years oh it's a [ __ ] show wow no look. it's a [ __ ] I missed dating apps like I. just I got back together terrible then. girlfriend now yeah they seem horrible I. so I just missed it and so that would be.

hard especially if I were a single guy. and I were living in dating app culture. and I just knew there were always just. there there's always going to be some. hotter or I don't know what like Checker. hotter younger tenderization or whatever. like girl right sure but you're you're. from here and you're not from here I'm. from New York originally you're from New. York okay it's even better and you said. you've known your wife since you guys. are 10 yes yeah so I mean if you've. known her since you were 10 you've been. single between those times you've seen.

multiple women you've seen everybody out. there you had your time to. yeah explore and we basically learned. that maybe there's not better and that's. why you're with your life but that's. kind of like the modern lib thing is. you've got to split up and do your own. thing and go I don't believe that either. yeah I think it was BS I wish there was. so much cultural pressure when my wife. and I sweet little Elisa when we were in. in high school we they said oh you gotta. split for college you'd be crazy to date.

your girlfriend and your high school. girlfriend in college and then by the. end of college you're like why the hell. did we break up that was crazy we should. have gotten married at 18 pumped out. like a dozen kids gone to move to a farm. and grown a big beard yeah I didn't see. all that Sam can you push your. microphone now closer towards you yeah I. don't believe it sorry to cut you off I. was talking about how I should have been. Amish you know and yeah. um ish you know like sort of not fully. all the way but something like that yeah. I think it would have been since you. guys knew each other at 10 18 isn't that.

insane because that's already eight. years it's almost you guys would have. known each other for basically half your. lives at that point so that's not insane. from me I feel like it's insane when I. see like 18 to probably 22 year olds. getting married when they just they're. getting engaged within a year of meeting. somebody and it's like I feel I very. very strongly about my boyfriend so so. strongly but I still know would not be. the smartest decision to get engaged six. months from now like when you say like. the divorce rates are 50 it's like I'm.

sure there is some people who are. blindsided in those relationships but I. bet a good part of those relationships. that I end in divorce are people who got. together who either a already knew it. wasn't going to probably work out B got. married just because either someone was. pregnant or C they were forced into it. and they are waiting till marriage or. something so they just get married young. I feel like a lot of those people both. parties going into it kind of already. knowing this isn't going to work out how. long have you been dating not long at. all we've known each other since. September we've only been exclusively.

dating since January so it's been very. very very brief but I've never I've been. in two two years two and a half year. long relationships one one year long. relationship and I've never felt this. way definitely about anybody before so I. know the difference now and that's also. why I've said before like some things. I've said before have changed like. before I thought I need to be single to. have fun and vacation or explore things. but now I know I don't need that. I would rather him be there you know. last thing on the marriage thing. um kind of the reason why I'm hesitant.

is because my uh fiance wants to. hyphenate our last names uh so that's. another issue there um let's let's move. on from that um by the way you didn't. introduce yourself as wish. Ariana Grande from wish or Walmart yeah. Walmart yeah whatever you prefer next. time we'll get it next time um I forgot. so let me see here we had uh Kiara. Grande would you guys date. so we we have a political commentator on. the show and he's part of the daily wire.

Network and uh which which is a more. conservative. um company would you guys date a. conservative. let's start with you. yes. okay. yeah. yes sure. you don't sound very enthusiastic I. don't think that would be a deal breaker. for me if I like you if I fall in love. with you that's not gonna be something. that's going to stop yeah but I mean. you're gonna find out they're. conservative before you fall in love.

with them though yeah unless you're just. falling in love at first sight or. something I mean I feel like that's. something that gets brought up before. you fall in love. yeah I mean so would you even date a. conservative to begin with I feel like. it's better yeah. um probably yes. I don't think that would stop me I don't. think that's a deal breaker for me I. think relationships and still work I've. seen a lot of relationships where. there's a one conservative and one more. liberal person. um I think it depends on how. conservative they are or like how much. they let the politics get like get into.

their life like how much it affects them. what if the guy's super conservative. like super duper makes Francisco Franco. look like a huge Democrat but I don't. think they know who that is or yeah. makes life who is that by the way. Francisco Franco is a strong man in. Spain for many decades oh during World. War II or after okay yeah and into yeah. um so okay uh you know makes um I don't. know makes Trump look like a big lib or. something but he's not always talking.

about his politics he just happens to be. very conservative and the dictators and. the dictator does he like I mean I feel. like if you are like that your actions. are gonna be very conservative what do. you mean like have a family have hold a. steady job or just the way he treats. people. um I feel like if he's making Donald. Trump look like a lip I feel like his. interactions with people wouldn't be. very it'd be very funny it'd be really. Charming I mean it might be funny to. watch be very attractive to women yeah. probably not I feel like being on too.

much of any side it's not gonna be no I. like don't you think if you stand in the. middle of the road you might get hit by. a truck. I have you ever stood in the middle of a. road not in that sense I think you can. have. me no I'm I am extremely conservative I. consider myself very moderate because. moderation is a virtue but there's no. issue on which I hold up the liberal. position see like I would date someone. who's conservative but I wouldn't date a.

trumpet no that's weird yeah whatever. would you date. someone who I would date I would hope. isn't still fetishizing a president who. hasn't been in office now for almost who. knows how long just like I wouldn't date. somebody who had even though I feel like. it is a little bit different in a sense. because it was the first black president. but still I wouldn't want to date. somebody who still had Obama flags and. propaganda whatever up anywhere I feel. like that's weird let's move on we're if. it's the next if he has something. representing the next.

um Republican candidate sure he's he's. representing who he wants to vote for. but somebody who's been out of office to. to lie and say there is not an agenda. behind what's going on there I think is. very naive so no yeah I wouldn't date. somebody who's Trump flag still Trump 20. 20 whatever at this point no but if you. are conservative yeah if you want to. vote Republican who cares but you say. just not he just can't be too. conservative like just what she was. saying how it's like when you're too far.

on either spectrum is just very bad but. don't you think I mean people who have a. coherent view of politics it's one thing. is going to lead to another thing right. if you're uh let's say you're pro-life. you know you don't think that abortion. should be allowed that's going to bleed. into your thoughts on marriage and. divorce and raising children that might. even bleed over into your thoughts on. taxes and education so it's all going to. kind of come together of a piece right. and same thing if you're super liberal. that's they're all those issues are. going to kind of roll off one from the.

other but I feel like you could still. find a good middle ground I mean like I. I'm okay with. people owning guns but there's certain. other things I probably wouldn't be okay. with that conservatives are okay okay. like I'm not pro-life yeah not yet. yeah I will not change my mindless. that's what I said but then I got. convinced I I just. there's no way I'd be convinced to. change it I'm out on that yeah no have. you ever thought there's something I'll. never do and then you did it.

um I'm sure but like I know for this and. I will not change my opinion uh really. quickly show of hands who who here would. date someone who's pro-life. wouldn't date a guy. if that guy said I don't want to kill. your child oh I would date I think. there's still. that's very different I think the. problem for me is that I own my buddy.

and like I am I you're my buddies what. makes you say you own your body because. I have my buddy and I take care of it. well you are part your body yeah your. body and your part yourself but you. don't own that you didn't know. let me just interrupt you if you believe. that God owns it that it's your belief. but it's not mine but you can't bring. religion into it if you cannot bring. religions. there's only one universe and it happens. to be true in. in my universe it's not true I have my. own set of beliefs and in your Universe.

you could pretend to be a bug with 17. arms but Michael you can't bring. religion into politics well you have to. bring religion I'm no politics I mean. you can like take it into a faster but. you cannot let it set politics no you. have to no because why not so many. different religions it's just like you. can't cater to one right Catholic you. can't cater to just like why not because. let me just interrupt you are not just. let me let me just interrupt really. quick and then I'll let you uh respond. so um just one thing.

this is a hot button political issue. Michael's conservative I think you guys. probably have a different stance on. abortion I'm happy to talk about it but. I want everyone to try to keep it. people have very strong opinions on this. right let's hopefully just keep it uh. respectful let's have a debate let's. engage in a uh hopefully a fruitful. debate or not fruitful debate but uh. let's just keep it polite and I I think. um Michael is probably prepared to make. uh pro-life arguments that are not based.

in religion. because. certain things are true and certain. things are false so like for instance if. I said right now hey is it better to. bake a pie for a widow or kick a little.

baby in the head. would you say one of those things is. better than the other thing you can. compare them. content but I'm just asking is. you can either bake a pie for old the. Widow down the street or you can kick. that little baby in the head would you. say one of those things is better or. worse than the other one yeah yes yeah. so if you're gonna make a claim that. something is better or worse as a as a. moral question then you are now taking.

recourse to what because that's a. religious view so how is me making a. claim about like having an abortion in. pro-life obviously I feel like if you're. having an abortion it's not a good thing. like I don't think it's something that. should be romanticized I don't think. it's like a good thing I feel like it's. sad that you even have to go out to that. point but it should be there for women. it's not a good thing then why no one. needs it because there's other things. that are not a good thing birth control. is not a good thing either and we have. it but we need it.

I'm having sex before marriage is not a. good thing for society but we have it. right so you're gonna ban it but you. just shouldn't drugs are not a good. thing but we have it right you also. shouldn't do that you're making very. good Arguments for things there's so. many things. I have a Viewpoint and I know you're. very passionate about your review I'm. very passionate but I'm I think we're. going a wrong way about the whole. conversation like because you you're. saying that's just wrong but yeah we. have to talk about how can we prevent. that from happening in the first place. like what happens to like a 14 year old.

girl who gets raped for example like how. would we prevention how do you prevent. rape well how do we talk about people. with like mental issues like we have to. talk about just better like are you. doing something to better yeah well the. way the way to prevent rape would be to. get tougher on crime and it would be to. uh circumscribe certain sexual behaviors. right and stop uh I would say probably. stop encouraging a hookup culture that. makes it a little bit easier so you can. do all sorts of things like that and.

then what do you do for for like a young. woman who's already pregnant what do you. do you well you know the crime has. already happened so if you if she gets. an abortion or she doesn't get an. abortion that's not going to change the. fact for example you can maybe like. create a foundation that will help oh. yeah there are plenty two like fund the. baby yeah crisis pregnancy centers. they're great great organizations are. there accessible to people yes. everywhere well that's good I mean I. don't I don't know if it's accessible to. like like they totally are okay you tell.

me where you are I'll get you an. organization so you gave me a look while. I was over there is it what what's up I. was just wondering doing I had to go to. the bathroom and I got a nice pack for. what neck pain. I've got arthritis or something. um so. you also looked at me Kiko and you. wanted to why don't you and Michael have. a little debate on this. well keep going oh I think we were great.

I know pretty much everything no no no. no what do we disagree on. I'm pro-choice through and through I'll. never change I will never waver not a. single thing I could be seen. said to me anything I'm not changing my. opinions we might as well not even. debate on it because it doesn't seem. like he's changing his opinion either. but I did change my opinion because I. used to be so you're willing to change. back your opinion well you know. we believe I am so I know I'm not going. to change it no we can then if you want. to debate if you think so in the face of.

in the face of compelling evidence I. could change your opinion one thing one. thing really quick me too usually but. then some things you're just setting. Stone on and this is one of those is it. maybe because you're afraid that you'll. find compelling evidence that would. convince you otherwise so one thing. really I just know it's dumb today are. you guys comfortable opinion on having. this conversation yeah yeah oh you guys. are fine okay yeah oh Beyond comfortable. yeah let's have it. okay because some people don't like. talking about this sort of stuff but. it's so long as you guys are uh fine. having a little debate I think I think.

and the the great thing about debate is. is that you can kind of it can help you. reaffirm your position or perhaps. challenge your position I mean I'm. always open to new things things and I. want to keep learning but sure I'm just. saying I'm pretty I agree with Kiko I'm. being very strong on this one yeah so. then what if we have a debate for the. fun of it how's that sound that's what. I'm saying fun okay let's do it fun go. ahead why is this the one issue that you. wouldn't change your mind on. because I feel like the research is.

already done we've already taken away. the law put it back we've already seen. the negatives and positives from it so. why are we repeating history of art. we've already done this multiple times. now what law. when we banned abortion back in what was. in 19. yeah Roe v Wade Roe v Wade created a. constitutional right to abortion yes. yes but before then before the abortion. was illegal yeah yeah yes and then now. we saw because the reason why that.

happened well there's honestly multiple. reasons why some of it does stem in. racism as well you mean you mean because. most like most black babies in New York. are aborted and not born. that would be racist right. no I mean because the issue was. the reason why we're getting back here. is because. the most people having not the most. majority of the highest percentages of. people having abortions are. African-American women or minority women. in general right the majority of black.

babies in New York City are being killed. but the most dangerous place for a black. person in New York city is in his. mother's womb that's very racist I. agreements can we not be calling them. babies yeah they're what should I call. them fetuses did you know what the word. fetus means yeah. embryo. is that embryo is another term but the. word fetus is a Latin word that means. Offspring so it means baby isn't like. the um I don't know I think it's in. Freakonomics that they wrote about the. fact that throwing away decreased the.

crime rate in New York yeah this was an. argument that was really compelling to. me I actually made this argument to a. bioethicist who was she was very proud. I wouldn't say she was the top okay but. I I made this argument I said well no. I'm really in favor of abortion because. the Freakonomics book told me that it. decreases the crime rate you know if you. if you abort these babies and she said. cool Michael which of those arguments is. not also an argument for killing young. black men in the inner cities age 18 to.

25 and the problem is. they have life well the baby is that. life they don't feed us no they have. life no well no they have life. experiences they have no how are you. alive if you have conscious memories you. have no conscious how are you uh you. have no conscience should you be able to. kill somebody who's in a coma who's. unconscious honestly yeah if I was a. vegetable why are we out of here. ventilators who are vegetables for years. no honestly my true opinion yes they. should be dead yeah.

at some point because people can be in a. coma for years and then come out of the. coma but you think just kill them anyway. okay honestly if you're going to be on a. ventilator for sick are you vegan are. you vegetarian do you really care that. much about I'm talking about human life. so so are you going to be a foster. behind your conscious we're better than. these things no because because man is. is the only rational animal so man. unlike uh lower animals we have a. rational will so what I'm saying yeah. because we're more rational we have a. high so Consciousness. no but the rational soul is not merely.

the uh expression I just feel like you. shouldn't call it pro-life I really. think you're pro-life maybe you're Pro. even broccoli screams when you pull it. from the ground I agree I agree yeah no. I mean ultimately the image because. ultimately the reason is because man is. made in the image and likeness of God. right that's why once again it's. religion for you that's your main. everything ultimately is religious. because that's the fun what if I'm not. religious yeah. everybody's religious because every. every well you just admitted that you.

believe some things are better than. other things. that's a moral so where does your. morality derive from the universe. religion to tell me what's good or bad. it's Common Sense most of the time. what's good or bad we're not sure God. telling me where does that Common Sense. go like you weren't just you did one I. feel like from the time I was able to. have any belief I didn't need somebody. to tell me it's wrong for me to kill. somebody I didn't need somebody to tell. me it's wrong if I steal this from. somebody and I was an only child too so.

I didn't need to be taught that that's. just something that my brain was like. it's like a common sense thing right. that's called your moral conscience and. because I didn't need God to do that it. was just me well you're being a human. God gave you your moral conscience and. created them. you're listening to me right now I.

listened to speak but I wouldn't listen. to anything you do and put it in action. my ears work yes right now am I taking. it in you say you say abortion is is. fine and I say abortion is bad yes how. do you know which one of us is right how. do you know because humans know nothing. really I think I know something well I. know but really. I think the argument where life begins. is useless because I don't think I'm. based on that you're not going to change. someone else's mind because everybody. has strong beliefs I think that's a.

great point because it doesn't matter. when life begins. what life means yeah so it means so many. different things to people so I just. think it's useless to argue over that I. think it's better to argue how we can. what we can do in the situation because. we all agree when life begins I mean by. definition it's a concept no we don't so. hold on just a second abortion was such. a silly issue women's issues with nature. slash God oh the idea they can escape. consequences and not control every. element of sex is the issue ironically.

women side with a eugenicist that. created these schemes and hate them and. want them gone. dig Bic energy thank you for the uh 200. TTS yeah thank you there uh interesting. name you have there thank you man um go. ahead Kiko you wanted to well because I. agree with what you're saying but we. said we're debating for fun so that's. the reason why I'm doing it because I. know whatever you said how do I know I'm. right well I mean this is also objective. too but like for me like I know I'm. right because like every state with the. most educated people here like are still. you know pro-choice and like the states.

with like you know not that many. educated people usually are the ones. that are. versus if you grab people from. California and you find the most. overall I feel like the the majority. yeah the majority is going to probably.

be from California and not from I mean. Michael's boosting up the average I. think bicycle because it's so small. right because one Yale you throw one. Yale in a Tennessee. I also don't have a ton of uh you know. respect for people who have all these. credentials I mean my fellow yales. believe all sorts of things that are. insane I mean they don't know the. difference between a man and a woman so. I'm not surprised that they can't tell. what life is about you know also I feel. like I'm just gonna set this from the. straight from the start you and Brian. don't really get a say in this because. you can't have kids oh no uterus no I.

have two kids no did you birth them did. they come out of your vagina no no but I. did I did help to make them and the. other even if I didn't have kids the. other reason I would have some say over. this is because I have rational. faculties and I can I can come to. conclusions about things that don't. involve me for instance if I were an. oncologist I wouldn't necessarily need. to have cancer to know something about. it you can have like you can you can. have a say but you're not gonna have the. final say it's not your it's not your. choice it's not your boss why would it. not be I'm the head of my household well.

I think Buddy you tell her when and what. to do every move to make you tell like. not every move I've got quite a lot of. say over it yeah can I say oh what she's. trying to say is that why do we restrict. women and tell them what to do if we. have to restrict the man because they're. the ones who don't take the. responsibility for what they have done. you don't know how many guys invited me. over the house on the first date it is. disgusting to say every time I know but. it's it's happening and I have to like I.

have to say no but like we are not. educating and saying to the man that. they should behave properly while we are. shaving women for the fact that they. want to have a choice and what to do. with their bodies when the the guys and. the man who they whose attraction. they're trying to get you know like the. women are having sex with the guys. because that's the only way the only. thing they can give guys like right now. be maybe the university doesn't that. you're so right about that but doesn't. that tell you that those guys are just. dirt bags and you should go but there.

are so many of them so what should I do. then yeah. I feel like abortions are not good. they're bad but I feel like they're. needed in some scenarios I don't think. like pro-choice means all girls should. be having sex like and having abortions. unprotected and just like that should be. planned and B is having an abortion but. I feel like there are instances where. like you don't realize that you're. pregnant or just something goes wrong I. feel like it shouldn't be on like.

legal terms it like it's way more about. the situation but you need a law either. it's legal or resilient but yeah but if. it's legal like that doesn't mean. everyone's gonna get an abortion why do. you think it's bad because I get the pro. abortion argument which is the baby's. not really a baby it's not life it's not. human forget about it it's just like I. think I think it's bad because it's a. sad thing to go through period yeah like. it's amazing why is it sad though. because it's like you have to do. something because I don't think people. really are going in there and being like.

I want to kill this fetus like it's not. being like No One's Gonna Be Like I'm. gonna kill this yes it's life no one. still kill life claiming period but some. for some people it has to happen I know. this girl who's a friend of mine and she. didn't know she was pregnant and she was. on birth control and she found out she. was five months pregnant and she was. like I cannot have this kid like there's. no way I'm in high school this girl. couldn't do it why couldn't she just. have the kid and give him give the kid. up for adoption. changes your life you say that like it's. the easiest thing ever like just you're.

talking about abortion like that's the. easiest it's not it's not yeah but their. life changes so much more after that. otherwise you know you have a kid in the. ground because you killed the kid. because they're not big enough to be. buried they're not gonna they would be. disintegrated Within.

I was just wondering if it's like after. three months or after no from the. beginning I don't think you know I don't. think it makes sense to just pick an. arbitrary date and say okay that's why. it's arbitrary though because it's it's. supposed to be by each Case by case. because we can't tell when every embryo. is going to be viable outside. from the beginning that's what that's. not what about like you think but what. we're saying is why it's Case by case is. because we don't want to say oh we're.

gonna ban um after 20 weeks you can't. when some babies might be viable at age. but I don't care when it's so that's can. I finish my statement. go ahead standard that I don't think. Kiko Hugo than Michael didn't I forgot. it I thought the bathroom though. uh okay um as someone was writing a. message we'll get to it later Michael. did you ever respond yes well just in. yeah in response to that point because. Kiko is focusing on well at what point. is the baby viable to live outside the. mother's room but I that is that isn't.

the question that matters the question. that matters is. when is this thing a human when is this. thing alive and the only answer to that. question just by definition is at the. moment of conception because conception. just means the beginning of Life I agree. with you what it's just sad scenarios. like if a kid is born to like you know. drug addicted parents well they could. give the baby up for adoption yeah but I. mean you really think they're gonna make. that smart choice if they're drug. addicted parents yeah I don't think. there's like enough structure so you're.

saying any life is better than the bad. life yeah I'm saying life is better than. me I agree with you all life is better I. guess another argument is like what if a. girl was young enough right and she's so. desperate that she's gonna go to. somewhere else and or do it herself or. something well you know it's interesting. because you're saying that illegal. abortions would be more dangerous but. they're not actually this is the weird. thing in the year before Roe v Wade was. a loud abortion everywhere do you know. how many women died from illegal back. alley abortions in America.

39. really and 24 women died from legal. abortion so you're pro-illegal abortion. no I'm anti-all abortion but when you. look at when you look at the number of. states where it was legal. legal abortions illegal abortions were. roughly. do you think like people that. did it dangerously like would it be. recorded they would frequently have to. well it's women who die for me. let's have Tatum come out oh no I like.

okay if you remember it let me know guys. I feel like abortions are gonna happen. either way like she was saying like. prostitution it's it's gonna happen. either way and I feel like it's better. if we have a safe way for these women to. get abortions instead of knowing it's. gonna happen and just like putting a. blind eye towards it and but but if. there are if there's a law against it. they're going to be far fewer abortions. I think the law should be necessarily no. I was so black and white in this. yeah. there aren't going to be fewer abortions. if you make it illegal then why not just.

make it illegal if it's not going to. matter well I think like for example you. know going to a doctor and like the. doctor prescribes drugs so freely these. days like four men you know it's kind of. the same thing with the boy I think uh. if someone's gonna go get an abortion it. should be much more like the doctor. should be part of the whole yes 100 like. try to deter the person and like we'll. help and how to deter it yeah yeah like. making it so black and white it's just. but it just seems to me you all have. well I think all of you have the moral.

intuition that it's wrong because. because especially because you're women. and you just don't want to kill your. children but so you know that it's wrong. so then why not follow that to its. logical conclusion and say we shouldn't. do it I feel like if it's just. um illegal right then women will have. less help with also what she was saying. is this whole situation is not so black. and white it's not just it's wrong. there's like other things that go way. into it that you have to take into part. that make a deciding factor on whether. or not a woman wants an abortion it's. not just like oh I'm doing this thing.

that's wrong it's like I'm doing this. thing but I could like there's other. parts of it that's way more wrong too so. what do you what what let's say a girl. gets raped do you really think she wants. to have that reminder of her having a. child but she could give the child up. for adoption you keep saying I would not. want to go through pregnancy you're. going through an entire pregnancy where. your body's changing your body's gonna. be changing changed forever but what if. you give birth to someone who is like. the next I don't know. yeah of course the next what or even if. not just a regular person what's it.

likely okay what about the next Hitler. and then they're like. but there are there are about 36 couples. want to adopt for every newborn baby put. up for adoption in the U.S so there. would be no shortage of a couple to. adopt the business it'll be hard to. adopt in the U.S that's right that's why. because there are so many couples who. want to adopt every newborn baby. expensive yeah so either way it's. changing that girl's life forever the. girl's life's already changed she's. crazy.

it's different because when you see it. becomes real when you don't see it it's. not real it doesn't well when you don't. see it it doesn't seem no I've known. people that had abortion affects them. how would you even know as a man if it's. gonna be a detrimental change to This. Woman's life how would you well because. I you don't know I have children and I. know women carrying a child I know. plenty of women who've had babies and I. know plenty of women who've had. abortions and I have seen that I do so I. know and I know and you're telling me. the abortions have not affected if my. mom hadn't had the abortion she had I.

wouldn't be. part of the reason. you defy your mother's abortions. I was pro-choice before that before your. mother had an appointment before she I. found out. you were obviously raised in an. environment that's pro-abortion so you. know certainly your views are going to. be colorful no not necessarily my dad's. not pro abortion my mom's not. pro-abortion and I'm so pro-abortion. there's like certain I don't think like. we said there's middle grounds on things.

that we take but no this this is not a. real brand you're just saying I'm. pro-abortion I think a lot of them. abortion yeah yeah the government. telling them I think a lot of a lot of. it with women is that they don't like. the fact that it's the government that's. dictating it but the government dictates. all these important I know but I think. it's just and I don't like dictate you. don't like that there are laws against. burglary and like no but they don't try. to dictate like my body and time and. tell me what to do with it do you think. there should be laws against heroin like. using heroin that's a law against.

against you using your body as you like. so people still do heroin right but far. fewer people but then it's detrimental. to your body that's like a drug that's. gonna ruin you having an abortion is. Gonna Save A Lot of women's life no save. a lot of women's lives oh it doesn't it. doesn't it there is no uh condition in. which a woman needs an abortion so how. does it ruin your child if that child. has no consciousness never existed never. started.

a memory yeah. his eyes never even had like most time. never even had. anything yeah like how how is that. ruining someone's life because the child. is deprived of the chance to grow up I. don't think we can talk I don't think. the child cares about itself when I. never even yeah a person can be deprived. of something without being conscious of. it like in the case of killing someone. in a coma so so like right now I'm being. deprived of being. a billionaire so my life is no because.

because you're you're not entitled to be. a billionaire you don't have a right. you're not you're not entitled really to. life either you do if in fact if you. have any rights at all you must. necessarily they thought our Health Care. system and everything that's going on. technically you don't have entitlement. to life because the simple things we. need to live is so expensive that most. people can't even afford it here so how. is that an entitlement to life we're all. living just fine. with the whole population you think. we're all living just fine yeah I think. we're living. how do you define consciousness like.

what is consciousness to you when you. have like do we know what Consciousness. I would say you're conscious. like because some people believe that. because I don't use this exists in the. universe right yeah that's a horrible we. think I don't really because I don't. want from my thing I don't say oh it's. wrong once they're conscious my whole. thing is once they're viable on their. own and I'm not talking about. because if they they are they are a. parasite at that point I'm not saying. like they are viable in the point like. they have to be born and like can just. walking be on their own but if they are.

born and can't be on a ventilator or. something and a machine can't even keep. them alive yeah they they are just a. parasite at that point I mean they're a. creature living in our body even had a. different name we would have killed it. and gotten rid of it just like if it was. a pregnancy that was killing our body we. would get rid of it because right now. it's a parasite that's hurting the body. the difference between a parasite though. and what you're describing is that what. you're describing is your child it's. human it's not a parasite it's a human. being is it really though at that point. yeah yeah I don't that's why we disagree. no well it's not just a matter of.

disagreement DNA and for you are you um. it doesn't though. do you like the death like are you Pro. death penalty yes I'm very proud so how. are you saying that everyone has a right. to live if you're broke death penalty. well because the Civil Authority the. Civil Authority has the right to exactly. I I really a whole topic on in debate. class because if you're religious right. yeah so how are you probe that penalty. if you are not going because the because. uh whosoever sheds the blood of Man by.

man shall his blood be shared because. man is made in the image and likeness of. God but who is who is to decide when to. take that the Civil Authority which does. not bear The Sword in vain but who is. the who is to decide who that civil. Authority is well there are different. forms of civil Authority there's. monarchy oligarchy and democracy and. differences at different times well no. God does in his forwarding Providence uh. uh permits civil Authority and it. entrusts the enactment of justice. but you said that my body belongs to the.

God. your body belongs to God as does your. soul I feel like what but then religion. to it I feel like there's really no. argument because well here's why I mean. I'll just do it like really quickly as. to why religion has to come into it is. because all of our political ideas rest. on as we have discussed ideas of Applied. morality right and what's bad and. morality rests on a basis of. epistemology which is how we can know. anything at all and epistemology rests. on a basis of anthropology which is the. question of what is human nature what is.

a human even to know anything and. anthropology rests on a basis of. ontology which is what does it mean to. be and then ontology rests on a basis of. theology which is what is the fundament. of reality the the the uh okay so you're. saying it all goes back to religion but. I'm saying you can't go back to one. religion because there's multiple. religion is a habit of of justice that. renders to God what he is do that's what. that means yeah we don't even understand. what that I think we'll live in a video. game yeah a video game it might be a.

decent metaphor so I I have a question. for you Michael. um if you had to steal man the uh. pro-choice side yeah familiar with I. assume you're familiar with the term. steel man. um what what are some of the what is or. what are some of the strongest arguments. that you hear from people people who are. pro-choice the strongest argument for. abortion would be that. there's no such thing as God I guess.

destroyed me because in order for. abortion to be. even remotely acceptable. there would we would just have to be. stuff we just have to be matter right. there wouldn't be good or bad or right. or wrong. because I honestly I do according to. physics metaphysics were also a soul. yeah but I believe in physics more than. metaphysics well the two go together but. then the way they can coexist together. if you're saying they're different no. different things we're all different. people and yet we co-exist together.

but then you're saying that we have like. so you know. I should not believe in God for me to. not believe in pro-life. well I mean there are I could make. plenty of secular Arguments for anything. you want it's just ultimately ultimately. it does come down to God because. everything comes down to God ultimately. so what would be if if we remove. religion if we remove religion from it. what what is the strongest argument you. hear from someone who's pro-choice is it. a bodily autonomy argument or is that.

not particularly compelling I mean I. think they're all really pretty silly. arguments the strongest argument I could. imagine is that is that we live in a. materialist world so all of the. metaphysical things that we pretend to. care about or we think that we care. about you know our loves our hopes our. dreams our Joys our emotions that's all. just fake it's all a trick played by. chemicals firing off in our brains and. we're actually just bags of Flesh and. we're eventually going to die and take a.

dirt nap and turn to worm food and. that's all that there is just Oblivion. which which can be uh compelling in the. modern world yeah no I mean and that's. how we that's very often how we treat. ourselves though. actually the way that we behave the way. that you're all talking you don't really. believe that because you're saying. something well you don't want to believe. that because you don't want to believe. that because I feel like people do want. to believe that because they want to. live without conscience. if we all believed that we would all. lived a very sad and like mopey life and. like not really caring about anything. and I feel like people want to believe. that so they have reason and purpose and.

something for them to do with their life. and so that they're just not [ __ ] on. themselves all day long no well what you. would if I didn't believe in God. which I didn't for a while I would do. what I did then which is just be very. hedonistic I would party every time I. would you disagree I don't believe in. God but I'm not hedonistic why not. because I don't care for me the. short-term pleasure doesn't have any uh. like any good in it I pursue long-term. pleasure I pursue the long-term. um achievements goals.

um ideas and I know a lot of people who. are religious who do are do want. short-term pleasure very well yeah it's. called sin and Temptation that's true. but but you know so you're interested in. long-term goals yeah but why because in. the grand scheme of things in the grand. scheme of things that's still short term. but by the perspective of Eternity right. the scientists. my life my life that's what long-term is. so that's a blip that's nothing I care. as long as like I can think my. Consciousness is here that's what I care. about I don't care what's going to be.

like there after whatever and what's. been before me what matters right now is. like what my conscience can take and my. conscience can only take what is. happening right now right here it cannot. take the yesterday anymore it cannot. take the future anymore you can only. take right now and right now I believe. that. I'm right now I'm pursuing my my you. know live dreams that are not. um necessarily. um like short-term pleasure like I'm not. like I don't know I'm I'm going for. Masters let's say it's not something. very appealing like it's not that I'm.

gonna go through a party after the show. but like it's still um it has more value. to me than something hedonistic as you. were saying. it's good it's I'm I'm stumped because. it's good that you're doing that I just. don't think it makes sense that you're. doing that if there's nothing higher. well because.

for me party is not fun I don't derive. fun in that I don't know I'm not giving. up short-term pleasures of different. Pleasures yeah okay okay that makes. sense did you have a final thought on. this I have one more question for you. Michael related to this and then we'll. move on to a different topic oh I mean. one thing he said was if I even remember. my full point but you started saying. like the only argument against. um pro-life is like there's no God or.

whatever and I just think. yeah maybe that's what. you know highly Catholic people think. but I feel like for most pro-choice. people is we just put higher. higher importance over the living woman. over the with embryo inside that's not. what I mean we put we put more. importance over present the present. woman who's living who has her life. already established and what can change. and giving her the choice because only. that woman knows how that.

whatever is inside of her will affect. her so it's giving her that choice. instead of forcing her to have. something that has no establishment that. nobody's gonna miss except for maybe her. the only one who's gonna feel the most. pain is the person having the abortion. yeah. depends also physically it would depend. on when you had the abortion but but the.

reason that I don't find that very. compelling is because I agree you're. right that's what the modern kind of. liberal Pro abortion people say but it. doesn't make sense even by the liberal. premises because the the idea of modern. liberalism is that you have certain. rights and we call these human rights we. call them natural rights and so the. basic ones that our country is sort of. founded on is life liberty and the. pursuit of happiness but the problem. with that is the you're saying that you. would prioritize the Liberty in a. certain sense of the mother of pursuit. of happiness because her happiness is.

going to be so over the life of the. family it's her life it's her Liberty. and it's her Pursuit it's already in. America because actually that thing is. not even we don't even know where that. thing is going to be born it could be. born anywhere is that that's life. Liberty. University it could be born in any. country any. Life's a mystery isn't it but but the. reason that's not compelling is because. you're saying that these. these secondary rights like Liberty and. pursuit of happiness and I don't know. fajitas on Saturday that these these are.

all Trump the fetuses the baby's right. to life but that can't be the case. because those other rights rely upon the. right to life that the right to life is. not one right among many but it's the. basic fundamental right without which. none of the others can exist. Tatum you wanted to go go ahead you had. something I just feel like abortion. should not be based off of like. like you're saying it was like it's not. liberal ideology and stuff that like. yeah I'm not a liberal either so I I. don't really care you know I just feel. like it's more about experience like the.

personal experience the concept you're. going through yeah context you can't do. a house to generalization and call it an. a sound argument but do you you don't. you don't make your moral decisions just. based on how you're feeling in the. morning you don't think that would be a. sound wave yeah. abortions are thought through yeah but. but yeah so that's different than what. you just said though which is it can't. be just this rigid you know ideological. thinking it's got to be more based on. what you're feeling no it can't be so. black and white yeah there's way more.

put into it it's not situation good and. bad thing it's there's a lot I think the. only black and white is we probably. shouldn't talk about abortion and death. penalty in the same sentence why not I. don't see there's any contradiction no I. agree with you it's just that you know I. agree with you like death penalty is. just you know people already to be. sentenced to that people committed well. apparently everyone has their rights. you know there was a case where it was. wrongfully you know someone was.

wrongfully accused oh yeah so it's just. yeah I mean um so that's why like I. don't know but that doesn't mean we get. rid of the Criminal Justice System no I. totally agree with you it's just like. you know a child is innocent and then. you talk about death penalty not you I. just yeah no of course well that's true. if you sentence a guy to 50 years in. prison you know that's a shame too small. that we talked about like an innocent. child and then a desk people get things. wrong yeah people I just bring up the. death penalty because you're over here. talking about how everyone has the right. to life but now you're dictating whether. or not someone can have life no I'm.

saying that the Civil Authority has the. right and the responsibility to enact. Justice not God anymore apparently yeah. well well the Civil Authority governs. the Affairs on Earth but then you're. saying God has and like decides all of. that so why didn't the god decide that I. don't know Vladimir Putin is not the. best person on the planet and okay it's. a fallen world and sin and death pervade. the world because Adam so how can I then. trust somebody and trust that somebody. will make a decision if that decision is. inconclusive and different uh like at. address the Civil Authority yeah even.

it's Authority or God like how do you if. it's so the only person that can can. have a trust in is only myself and my. own moral whatever that is yourself have. you made mistakes are you a perfect. person not even close you can't trust. yourself so why do we trust you why do. we trust the Civil Authority why do we. trust them if we can't trust ourselves. well because people I mean I'm not. necessarily telling you to trust me. though I like to think that I've in some. way so why do we trust the silver. Authority then like why because because. exactly they're still people because. people practice varying degrees of.

virtue advice both of which are habits. and so the more you practice them the. easier they become though it's a Fallen. World so we all still make mistakes and. so what we want is to in this country. elect leaders who are virtuous and who. are wise and who are prudent and just. like you I just want to ask I thought. you were volunteering to be a leader oh. no but um based on all your beliefs yeah. I'm curious so we're moving towards the. future where artificial intelligence is. going to be so prevalent right oh this. is where well this is kind of where I. think I was going Tatum did you have. something really quick that you wanted.

to say okay by the way guys there's 8. 000 people watching right now. drop a like and uh you know the chat is. on fire oh my God you guys are crazy. wait how many how many views do you. usually get like live. uh we well it's been steadily going up. but normally we get like two or three. thousand concurrents so we've almost. like we've tripled so we brought up. abortion they're all up here it could be. that it could be in any case um so.

you're you're about to talk about uh. artificial intent were you gonna bring. up artificial wombs is that where you. were going yeah like the excellent but I. was gonna ask you first and I would love. to cover that topic as well but so since. we're moving towards that and at some. point I'm sure there's gonna be not even. some sum of government but this the. social justice system that's based on AI. that AI is going to scan things and. um So based on maybe hold on just a. second underscore one two five seven.

eight dab d241 wow. equal rights key the workforce twice the. workers and cut income in half basic. supply and demand core funding abortion. get their workers back for any money. instead of costing maternity leave. avoiding pregnancy leaves you serving. Masters that hate and let you. um it's just true so true great Point. yeah uh so. just because we're we don't have a ton. of time to continue on this specific. subject I do want to move it on just and.

you know with the whole artificial. intelligence thing. um Michael what do you think about this. as perhaps a potential middle ground or. compromise between the pro-life and the. pro-choice side and obviously this could. be decades or even centuries in the. future. um the development of an artificial womb. what if we saw both sides come together. and say hey we're going to put all our. lobbying money all our Outreach money. basically all the money that's thrown at. this issue from both sides and say we're. gonna have a joint research fund where.

we're going to research an artificial. womb that way a woman could uh if she. was so inclined she could end the. pregnancy however the life could. continue in an artificial womb do you. think that that could be a potential. compromise it's a bit of a futurist. you're saying an artificial womb to be. used in the case that a woman tries to. have an abortion you say okay you're. going to be funneled into this. artificial womb are you saying for. everybody. well if if a woman a woman could still. have a normal pregnancy through with it.

of course but uh in the event that for. example she wanted to terminate the. pregnancy. um. just in the same way how it is if it. were a sort of medical device to save a. baby I guess I'd be for it but already. there but it's still babies yeah well. they're all sorts of it's a concept but. it's basically going to be in the future. but the fear is that women just start. using it and that would be very bad. because it would establish the. domination of Technology over the origin. and Destiny which is super creepy what.

about in vitro and Echo they're very bad. no no bueno. that's not good it's not good because. maybe for everybody because a baby has a. right to uh be born and to be conceived. through the conjugal activist parents. who are joined together in perpetuity in. the in in matrimony and furthermore. there's a danger with something like IVF. or all the rest of it of establishing. the dominance of either the state or big. business maybe even worse or technology.

broadly over as I previously said the. origin and Destiny of human life which. is super creepy do you think that I even. like Elon Musk but it's a losing battle. I feel like because it's moving towards. that anyway like we're moving. you know the the atomic bomb was. invented what 70 80 years ago and we. everybody thought that that was going to. lead to constant atomic war going to. blow the world up we've only seen the. bombs used twice well because it doesn't. it doesn't really benefit Humanity if. this would benefit I mean people would.

feel like it would benefit their life so. the atomic bomb benefits belligerence. yeah but come on nobody wants to like. blow something like blow the planet up. and people know that there are people. who want that yeah yeah but we'll know. that it would end all life so if there's. a artificial womb a lot of people would. feel the benefit so I feel like. um a large percentage of the world would. push towards that so it would win out. there are all sorts of I mean one. tactical nuclear weapons would not. destroy the world but let's hope but but.

uh there are plenty of scientific. advancements that we curtail we could. clone people I I think pretty simply. it's not successful yeah well it's it's. illegal in most places. it's been for a long time like for 20. years already so nothing but we don't do. it because it raises but okay so what. about the issue like for example you. know the whole genetic testing and then. how you can edit genes yeah well they're. that but what if you can edit out like a. really crippling disease how would you. feel about that yeah well if you're.

talking about treatments in the womb I. could see a strong argument for that you. have a little you have surgeries in the. womb things like that if you're talking. about rewriting the code of life that. seems one to use a very modern term very. ableist you know that you're trying to. write out I like crispr technology has. been already around for so long like I. know it's not morally yet accepted but. right if we keep going into that. direction because what's the problem. with it morally I agree with I feel like. that's a very bad enhancement for. society I think it would be taken.

advantage of I feel like people would. use it the wrong way and I I don't think. that's good that we're changing people's. genetic code but you can also change it. to prevent cancer and all of the bad. diseases yeah but what difference does. it mean the thing about like you're. playing God like you're like you're. you're like you're saying that so the. person should die from cancer then so no. more technological advances. right and this is wrong and treat things. differently and say you are The God Who.

because you decide what is good and bad. but I'm when you get when you have that. when people have that power and control. in their hands it can be taken the total. wrong way and it's going to start. getting capitalized off of people are. like oh well now we can make us look. better and cooler and like there's this. and you can do that and it's just you. get it it's just gonna go down the wrong. way. um so. I'm Gonna Change topics here uh really. quick just kind of to lighten the mood. would you guys date a guy who wore a. fedora you know yeah no.

I'm just getting right. um Kiko you're not good is this a good. look for me. can you blink a couple more times. um. no. what do you guys do to. no dude this might actually be a trilby. I'm not sure if it's a fedora. I don't think that's a fedora I don't. like it it's a trail beat the lady. yeah it does. who had this updated in Italian Italian.

guy who had this hat I don't care which. looks like you're about to get like your. cane out and like and start like okay. tap dancing some chats here we can. definitely gotta get caught up on the. soup chats I know. um okay let's see here we have uh. did we do wait. [ __ ] I'm kind of lost. what do you want me to do. um. wait I forgot where we were. um we'll do the stream Labs a little bit.

later let me do the regular soup chats. first. uh we got that one we got. this one. uh okay so Isaac Newton thank you for. the 50 man Brian I love your show and I. watch and listen to your podcast even. now during work quick question for the. ladies would you date an Asian five. three average job making 50k a year. physically fit and goes to the gym five. times a week uh really quick if you guys. wanna yes or no Kiko. no. is it the height. yeah like I'm five seven usually walking.

around in like shoes that make me 5 10. and I just don't think we would really. see eye to eye. okay oh oh. thank you Martin thank you Marcus the. Creator life a life Giver design a. designer science has tried to no avail. to disprove the existence of God all. that you experience and enjoy day to day. cannot come into being accidentally.

through a random Galactic explosion. feminism has made you a misotheist oh. that's a Creator. life a life Giver. like. like his voice you know that's just a. computer no that's I'm not even talking. about that it didn't need the com the. computer to say it's just that's what it. sounds like I feel like I'm like. just getting [ __ ] behind like a. little like church from like 1850 or. something like I don't know that's a.

church from like 350. that's like basic. Church level stuff. creation a creator. oh. would you what if I if I were just like. Hey we're like hey Kiko um you know two. plus two equals four you'd be like oh. here's Michael two plus two equals four. it's like just basic stuff you know well. probably yeah if you're telling me at 23. years old that two plus two equals four. yeah I'd be like well that guy's just. telling you basic stuff that a creation. needs a Creator yeah that's like like. that's how terms and words usually work.

yes. in your life yes but a child deserves a. mother like another regret mother like. yeah thank you thank you for using 200. to tell me that maybe he thought you. needed to hear it he could have just. dropped the thing to Google the Bible. verse for free the comments okay. um so would you do the guy five three. um 40 50k a month but he Jims it no.

yes or no it's fine. no. married Kiki. no it will no whoa oh wow sorry sorry. bud uh Victoria it depends on. personality. okay that was profound all right we have. uh moral objection thank you for the 50. going around and sleeping with every. person you desire is not having your. needs met it's fulfilling you hedonistic. excuse me it's fulfilling your. hedonistic desires you know it's wrong.

or you wouldn't be compelled to make. excuses for it hey moral thank you for. the uh 50 there uh geez Zach hey uh oh. wait hold on actually didn't we yeah. uh yo geez Zach thank you for the. hundred man uh military vet fought in. Afghan Afghanistan managed private. planes now for many celebrities it's. very sad to see the freedoms I fought. for turned into a society being degraded. like this single Parenthood or abortion. young women who can't understand the. number one predictor of crime which is.

fatherless homes wow okay uh yeah I. believe it's fatherless homes. well you could make the argument that. it's actually the the single mothers. that are raising so the women made them. walk away that's what you're saying. well we don't know the circumstances of. what's not owning up to the. responsibilities and leaving a child. fatherless got it.

yeah. in any case uh Zach thanks for your. service and thank you for the big 100 uh. soup chat man really appreciate it thank. you man uh yo dinosaur D with a 55. poor. Michael looks like he's descended into. hell. run buddy run because these suck you bye. will suck whatever hope you have left. for Humanity that is not fair at all.

these these wonderful women are and even. you lady Miss what is her name. Kiki Kiki and Kiko Oh no you're. wonderful women and you're all you know. you're you're looking at virtue and. truth and all these that you're taking. it seriously it's fabulous I mean I'm if. not in heaven at least purgatory all. right. cool all right we have uh yo Marquis. Martin thanks for the 50 man Brian. thanks for protecting my anonymity with.

a bankrupt sandwich shop chain is it is. it out of business um maybe there's one. like Blockbuster that's still kicking uh. my job is actually real estate and. construction congrats on 5K plus live. viewers how much how much do we actually. have right now. were just under 8 000. uh yeah Martin. thank you so much man uh Michael nice to. see you on the Pod appreciate your work. now flee call me fornia post haste I. will I'll do it okay. we have David Ross hey thank you for the.

50 man this conversation leaves me. speechless controlling words controlling. don't talk about Michael like that. that's a Discerning that's a Discerning. Discerning reader who understands a. great number one best-selling book when. he hears one. um. shots fired by the way. um okay we have uh Igor petrikov. thank you man thank you for the uh big. support long time listener of daily wire. but tend to skip oh oh real nice. but now but look at the next one now. subbed hats off to the 19 year old girl.

in the middle keep it right keep it. tight which one is that you Sam I'm. assuming yeah she's a 19 year old ah. okay all right. all right thanks Igor appreciate it. Dakota B thank you man this is for Mike. Davis from Sunday couldn't respond in. time I'm sorry you lack the skills man. I'd suggest doing some research ladies. how much of a green flag of a man knows. what he's doing down. there green flag is it a green flag if. he is skilled in that department.

yeah Kiko. um it's a plus yeah I mean it's not I. mean it's not a bad thing but. yeah definitely not an answer how about. maybe let me frame it like this is it a. deal breaker if it's if he's bad at it. or he doesn't do it how about that. what do you wait what if if you won't go. oh we're talking specifically come on oh. we're talking about no it's not just.

that it's crude it's like why is anybody. doing that oh going down there or not. going down I think that's what he was. implying. why are people going down there why. people not going down there yeah. wait I think you could probably infer. for my reaction so going down there wait. hold on is this so whatever you're not a. Munch Michael. do you you know all right listen I don't. tell Tales at a school or anything like. that but well I'm with you yeah I'm with.

you yeah. hell yeah Michael I'm glad I'm glad I. didn't say anything okay and do you do. you expect to have your skin sticks in. return I'm gonna pull up the catechism. at the Catholic church for just a second. and tell you exactly what no I'm gonna. pull up the catechism of Norm Macdonald. who says sex is a filthy thing is. obviously only meant for procreation. didn't you have a whole face.

when one is Young and irresponsible one. is Young and irresponsible it's good. that you're in the right bathroom so. just a deal breaker deal breaker if he. doesn't go if he doesn't go down deal. breaker. that's a good way of putting it I. wouldn't say it's like I've been with. people who like I will date them yeah I. feel like it wouldn't I mean like I. would talk to them like what's the. reason I'm not like earning for that but. for some girls if it is deal breaker.

good for them like I'm not going to say. Tatum I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker. but. like it doesn't make sense in my head I. guess that a guy wouldn't. if you were. to please a guy like that I feel like it. should be both ways reciprocity. thank you thank you're the only. reasonable one on the panel say I don't. know what to say this is why would. anybody. this is a dating podcast I mean I mean.

uh Victoria. I personally don't like it so I don't. care oh. okay uh so Brian you're not a Munch. either what is that you know. any ginger in his beard I don't know oh. wow. um. yeah just I I got neck problems like I. got an ice pack here hey I I got the.

size pack there's many different. positions. I actually do ice mine do you expect. like for her yeah to supply. I mean if. there's things when it comes to uh. there are things when it comes to sex. that perhaps your partner likes that you. don't and vice versa and I don't think. it has to be a Tit for Tat thing or. almost a vindictive thing oh well if you. won't do it then I then I won't just me.

personally my personal thing is my. personal thing I you know because well. for a variety of reasons and you know. just I. do you feel like you date women who. aren't clean down there like what would. be the reason do you feel like you're. not attracted to the vulva once it's up. close in your face I'm a fan hold on. first off. by the way Michael I apologize. yeah for somebody who advocates for. large labia you don't seem like you're. too fond of them right I'm a fan of.

large labias my DMs are open um I'm just. look here's the thing I apologize this. is this is Haram hold on Haram this is. Haram yeah um. just you know not my favorite uh. activity you know. it's a great Sopranos episode about this. yeah or Uncle June he says no yes not. what a man does yes. you just quoted The Sopranos so you are. a feminine man no that's.

actually speaking of The Sopranos I just. saw a comment the question because. Michael is in hell now. you've you've made it all the way. um. I don't like that kind of talk I had. that ready to go. uh what was that what was Uncle Junior.

saying um. Michael you don't have you never had the. makings of a varsity athlete I'm sorry. I'm sorry Michael yeah no now I'm just. gonna have to become a Don there you go. you're going to have to uh yeah get into. the racketeering and protection business. um is that racist because you're very. focused I think I'm canceled next after. you. um okay so did you guys really want my. reasons on on this or no I just feel.

like. if you're not like if you're not a Munch. ladies don't want you what's wrong. it's gonna think it's like that's not. even like a big thing for me like I. don't even really like that's not even. something I really crave like that but. it would just make me question like if. you were so against it yeah why not like. are we sure we're straight are we sure. you like women are we sure I agreed some. people say something wrong with me if. something's wrong with me why are you. still sleeping with me yeah like why are. you so opposed like why can you put your.

peen in it but not your your face like. what's why there's a difference so. that's it's more of a personal. insecurity thing is what you're saying. probably it would be in the end I think. it would be like a thing in my mind like. why I mean why not if you're like. girlfriend didn't want to look at your. um minkia what your little friend. little friends hello it's average what. if she was like what if she was ever I. don't want to look at it like don't show. it to me. I enjoy looking it's it's more just so.

you just like get a close and stare at. it don't do anything with it you just be. like let me see it all right let's put. it away. so so Kiko you said okay so Kiko you. said that. um is it a uh. oh you're saying well you're willing to. do actual intercourse but you're not. willing to do that and actually I don't. know if you. you said you're okay having sex but. hypothetically but you wouldn't yeah.

yeah so actually Chris Rock is new uh. special on Netflix he brought this up he. was saying how he would be prepared to. again I preemptively I want to apologize. Michael he would say that he would eat. ass he would ass but he like the same. night with a girl but he would not hold. hands with her and it's an interesting. thing oh man that's profound it's just. interesting that it tells you a lot. about the culture but but there's this. interesting thing when it comes to. intimacy people will do all up very.

quickly after meeting someone all sorts. of you know sex or without eating ass. whatever sorry Michael. but like to actually like hold hands or. something that would be too much so it's. sort of in that same vein. um I guess my big qualm with it and. perhaps this is related to uh being in. California is in today's in the. in the dating landscape you have to. almost assume going in that when you're. first meeting someone they're sleeping.

with someone else. that you're going on dates with guys but. you're currently sleeping with someone. else we've had and that's tame compared. to other women we've had girls on the. show that say they're currently sleeping. they have uh it was two shows ago or. three shows ago the girl said she's got. one main a main side hoe no excuse me a. main hoe and then four side hosts that. she's all sleeping with that's five but. not all girls are like Five Guys no not. all not all women are like that however.

it does seem to be at least in. California. and perhaps a lot of Western countries. that you almost have to assume going in. it's more likely than not that when. you're even just going on the first day. with someone they're probably sleeping. with someone else and so for me it's. just I would not feel comfortable well. first what about like it's your. girlfriend's exactly you know that's not. sleeping with other people so like. that's why like I say it's that's like. the if you're bringing up earlier like. it's the whole like intimacy thing like. I mean me personally I wouldn't sleep. with anyone unless I knew them but like.

you know you can use condoms at first I. mean it's not maybe some people are. using yes yes like you're going to be. using condoms and stuff at first that's. why like the first time I'm sleeping. with somebody nothing fellatio of the. sorts is going to be happening that's a. Next Level thing because I don't think. anyone's going down with some dental. dams or I feel like you wouldn't really. want to know is that Italian by the way. so a lot of Latin words keep cropping. them I just wonder doesn't I I don't.

want to sound like a prude because I'm. really not a prude or maybe I've become. a prude much more than I used to be but. isn't it all just so gross isn't it just. so extremely gross to think about the. five dudes and the right it's all just. please. why are you thinking about the dudes. wait wait hold on well yeah because he's. put it in my head you know the girl with. the five boyfriends and this and you. guys. someone who you're in a like. relationship with that's like I think.

that's way different but isn't like. let's say the most traditional thing. would be you don't do any of this stuff. and then you get married and then you do. appropriate sexual behaviors with your. spouse and and then the extreme on the. other end is you're doing all sorts of. weird stuff putting things in the wrong. places with like five guys at a time and. then. which is very Haram like clearly that's. gross and the other the good one is like. good and wholesome can there be a. balance is there not somewhere why would.

you want to balance between good and. gross because sometimes go for the. goodness. wait sir no continue your finisher up. hold up. his sentence. a human being is a parasite being in. healthcare and having witnessed the mass. suffering and death of thousands the. only parasites I have seen are the.

materialistic Hall gaping more that is. the Modern Woman just like this panel. gents focus on yourselves. it's like do they just open up like a. thesaurus or like something just like. type in like one word like anti-woman. word. um that was poetic maybe that's why that. guy is along because he doesn't like. that yeah that's why he has enough time. to watch his four hour podcast. let me just say buried though shouldn't.

you be like promoting women. in this whole time I've said it's. Michael and the girls against Brian yeah. original the rest but but you don't want. to you don't want to just like simp and. be like Oh girls whatever you're doing. is great like no it's gross it's so. gross do I do it maybe there's like a. certain extent where it's close but like. she said it's not black and white. there's like it is black and white most. things are fairly black. no those things are not apparently black. and white right most things are on a. spectrum of things where things aren't.

like is there an array it's not just one. or the other but if it's a spectrum then. the Spectrum presumably would go from. one extreme to the other and if we're. talking that's why we're saying right. wrong like beautiful and ugly and like. good and bad then the clear answers are. on the extremes no you. stream is the way to go for each thing. we're saying right now you've got a. spectrum right right between like true. and false good and bad okay so like a. spectrum of sex and there's different. settings it's like waiting for marriage.

there's no contacts no life experience. like saying just like there's true and. false the human behavior is so like has. such a range in so many different people. and like backgrounds and parenting like. that goes into all that there can't just. be a right wrong for everything a black. and white for everything there is though. there is I don't know why I don't know. why I mean it's just the same thing with. there should be a separation between. that yeah there shouldn't I agree we do. live strictly by Catholic law yeah I try. to I mean I probably fail all the time. but I try to.

speaking of Latin Deus Deus Waltz. there's Walt don't pronounce all the. moderns want to do it the German way but. you got to do it like a good time. it's with a V because I've heard it's. pronounced with a it's like a w yeah. that's what all the like weirdos say. yeah because if that's true then Julius. Caesar said weny weedy Wiki which is. obviously oh good point. maybe oh that sounds better yeah yeah. that sounds better okay so Deus volt can. we get some Deus vault in the chat boys.

I want to spam it it's God wills it it. was a chant during the Crusades so you. were saying I the the sentience comments. kind of uh interrupted what you're. saying though but so you're saying. I'm seeing this one guy I'm hooking up. with this one guy but I'm also dating. these other guys you're in the middle of. saying something do you recall what that. was. I think it was about the black and white. what we just got to okay I guess I'll. take my like sort of I don't mean to. sound like a church mom or anything. but I'm saying if you got you were all.

describing all these weird sexual. behaviors right and you're saying there. is a spectrum and on this spectrum let's. go from the one end it's the most Trad. like wholesome thing where it's just you. and your husband and you've got this. good life right and then on the other. end it's you with like seven dudes and a. chihuahua and I don't know like all this. weird stuff yeah right and so on that. spectrum that spectrum is actually just. like good normal flourishing for you for. everybody for all of human history.

no I'm just looking at history and I'm. looking at also philosophy and looking. at all I feel like there's been a lot of. terrible things that have happened in. history so why are you looking back at. history I mean for a long time that's. always been good but now we have a. different look on love personally I. don't think hookup culture is great but. a lot of guys will not commit so yeah. you don't want can't you make them like. you know not to be.

modern women hate accountability. especially when it comes to having. consistent morals and ethics things are. black and white it's whether you decide. to see it or not Sam guy I think um men. also hate accountability because like we. had we pulled out the stats men are. leaving their kids and that is the main. problem with the world today thank you. there was something roughly okay so.

let's say you're saying okay there were. bad things in the past and now things. not everything's perfect but some things. are better but we're talking about the. change that happened with women's lib. right basically the modern feminist. stuff which says we're gonna break up. the family we're gonna look easier. divorce women can go hook up do whatever. you want and the thing that's weird. about this is if you look at all the. studies on all happiness surveys which. again take it with a grain of salt but. it's all you've got on on these. sociological numbers. since that all went into effect the.

hookup culture and abortion and feminism. and all the rest women have become less. happy everybody's become less happy but. women have become especially less happy. even relative to men so wouldn't you. have to look at that at the last 70. years of feminism. women are becoming less happy aren't men. like more likely to have do suicide now. than women like men certain yes mental. health is more higher in men. everybody is getting less happy and. there is a spike in suicides especially. among older white men and and Drug.

overdoses as well but if you measure. happiness which again is a very. difficult thing to do but you just take. people's measures of happiness. both men and women have declined but. women have declined since when faster. rates since the 70s because we'll live. on the internet probably everything is. still on the internet I mean. TV you think you're going to die maybe. because like do we know it's directly. caused because women because of feminism. I mean I think studies are all fake. anyway but if you look at all of these. happiness surveys such as they are the. big change that happened in the. relations between men and women is the.

Advent of feminism and it made women. completely miserable probably because. they like became more eye-opened and. realize whoa my life is [ __ ] when you do. something that's exactly what happened. it what they would do in the New York. radical women's groups these happy women. who had good husbands and families would. show up happy I'm not even joking and. they would go through these struggle. sessions and they would raise their. Consciousness and they would leave. miserable and and this happened again. and again at these meetings and that's. what happened to the whole society over. the last like six weeks isn't this the. same thing as like the amazing yeah I.

feel like they were ignorant before they. opened their eyes from them I mean yes. or whatever whatever those the pills. that's what the feminists say but oh I. think they actually were much better. adjusted to reality before and then they. were told a bunch of Lies by the. feminists when they weren't controlling. their own lives and everything was. dictated they were her husband yeah. before when they believed that men and. women are complementary and actually. made for one another and that actually. we have responsibilities and obligations. and not just entitlements to do whatever. the hell we want and then after they. went to the struggle sessions with all. the feminists they were told a lie which.

is that men and women are not. complementary but they're indiscernible. basically identical woman needs a man. like a fish needs a bicycle and they. were told a lie that they would be much. more fulfilled not working for the good. of their husband and children but. instead going out. there's a guy who doesn't care about. them they can work at a job at the. widget in fact they don't need women. that women are like a fish they can have. many women men are told the same exact. thing yeah no that and that's. unfortunately is a product of feminism. that's affected men too and it's just. all a bunch of bees I feel like that was. before feminism I feel before it was. just hidden they would Yes Men yes yes.

men could she only wanted so much easily. no because we're allowed sex without. marriage that's why people don't want to. marry anymore okay I understand hook up. culture is a problem but when there. wasn't hookup culture men were allowed. and they had this freedom of being like. to cheat on their wives and to get away. rays and even laws against adultery in. fornication yeah but no one would care. you would just torn a blind eye no one. would depends what you mean by no one I. mean sure men have been guidance for all. of human history hold on just a second. guys super chatted.

199.99. girl in the middle men abandoning his. duty as father is one issue but you're. forgetting that it is the woman's fault. for making a baby with him since you. argue that women are the final decision. makers of intercourse women bear the. responsibility of it it's her fault so. abortion it's her fault for him deciding. to leave his kid. it's the moment you decide to agree to.

sex and have sex with somebody you have. to accept the fact that you can have a. baby with that man just as you are who. can out with somebody. yes also accept the responsibility that. he's having a kid as well so isn't it a. two-person thing you said we were having. the baby too it is also I mean if you're. really Trad like you think that men have. a leadership responsibility and so. really you would blame the men even more. in the same way that Eve eats the apple. right the serpent goes up to Eve says. eat the apple Eve eats the apple and. that but it's still Adam's fault it's. not very feminist but that's the way.

that's the way it goes in the book well. I'm not religious. [Music]. it's the way that our society is right. now I'm I'm kind of easily amazing like. I have a sister that's 10 years younger. and I'm like horrified I feel so bad for. her always because she's growing up in. this world where well first of all every. you know you grew up on the internet and. there's a lot of toxic things you see. then. um yeah like the hookup culture doesn't.

help like I remember how do we solve. this problem well you have to eliminate. feminism actually because I remember. thinking when I was in college I thought. the way the hookup culture worked I. thought these women had convinced. themselves that they were empowered by. Sleeping with the definition of feminism. changed yeah yeah I think there's. different feminism the feminism. initially there's different kind of. equality there's a quality of a pay that. should be allowed there's nothing wrong. against like paying the same amount of. money or people performing the same kind.

of job on the same position we are. talking about the wage Gap now we're. just all over the place that is fem that. is part of a feminist no it is illegal. there's different spectrums of feminism. the feminism we are talking about is the. one who said that somebody that somebody. has enslaved women and then somebody. came in the 70s or 80s and sexually. liberated them so now we can sleep. around and do whatever we want because. it's going to make us happier that is. wrong that I would call feminism like I. I'm for like I want I'm four gender.

roles like I don't want men to you know. like I I have a very nice so like I'm. not gonna go fight in war but I want to. do my womanly duties whatever be but I. also agree that you know we should. support men and men should support women. can you agree with the gender roles too. I agree with what she said at the end. but what about because supporting women. from post-soviet countries she's from. Birmingham from Ukraine.

it's not about gender I don't think it's. about gender roles I feel like yeah and. since some are gendered but I feel like. it's more about delegating tasks to. whoever best completes them in the. relationship you are unique to that. relationship do you think some men and. women tend to or be more inclined. towards certain things that maybe yeah. like maybe I'll probably be better at. some things that we'll do with our child. and such but I know my boyfriend's a way. better cook than me and he honestly does. a way better job at being clean while. cooking than I probably ever will maybe.

a few years look at the same skill but. but he's also way better at killing. spiders than I am he's also better at. lifting weights or telling somebody off. than I am so yeah some of those things. are gendered but I also think it just. comes down to some things he does better. than me and that happens to be. stereotypical what about when you have. relationships that are women and women. or men and men like what if you're not. gonna yeah I mean I wouldn't recommend. it we can I mean we can talk about it I. love women and women but hold on let's. um let's get back to the soup chats lame.

with the 50. hey thank you man Michael. you and Ben are goats thank you for. being a source of Common Sense Brian get. Chase on the show more uh yeah Chase. um definitely down to have Chase back on. he's been on a couple shows just he's. got a super busy schedule and um I think. he's he's mentioned this on his Twitter. he's dealing with some health issues so. he uh has some it's tough It's sometimes. tough for him to gather the energy. um girl with arm tattoo do you still. think it's not gay for a guy to have sex. with another biological guy just because.

he identifies as a woman what. what do you believe. you think it's not gay for a man to. do those sorts of things with another. man. If he if he considers himself a woman oh. it's the transgender thing you think. it's not gay if a man.

just just so there's context um Eric. you're gonna have to pull up the Twitter. wait I'm excited to see this video just. pull it up pull up the whatever Twitter. um uh don't show it yet until you have. the video ready to go but uh while we do. that let me uh read a couple soup shots. here uh okay.

uh okay here we go guys here we go yo. Joker thank you for the 50 Euro man bro. I'm sorry but Jiu-Jitsu Krav Magan not. the same thing I said it's jujitsu. that's very different. no it's not. juicy what's up Eric yeah. it's Twitter twitter.com whatever it is. one of the tabs it's just the Twitter. tab. but you are gonna have to scroll down a. little bit to find it um okay we have. Joker with a 50 Euro damn guys can't.

answer on the chat and I'm French so I. didn't get the joke sorry uh wait he's. I wonder I speak a little bit of the. French um. how do you say wife in French no.

no all right okay. rips in the chat for me boys okay so we. have uh were you able to snag a Derek. yeah. okay let me just read this one and then. we'll uh we'll pull that up Ryan the.

eating Warrior thing for the 50 man. appreciate it uh solid beard there bro. uh my wife's Catholic and claim to not. believe in divorce five years later. she's the one that wanted the divorce. after I came back from a deployment that. seems super common when people uh are. deployed in the military uh she had an. affair yikes don't get married Kings. guys over certain age don't understand. the realities. it's kind of the concept of driving a. car like you know there's a lot of. accidents but you still drive a car so.

thank you yeah what okay that's really. good hey Eric can you is it ready. oh. yeah is it Play From the Start oh whoa. yeah that's fine. Chase would you rather smash the hottest. trans woman in the world or the oldest. woman in the world honestly bro. the oldest woman in the world because. then I wouldn't be gay.

you really just want me to just. where are you like Chase how dare you be. transphobic Yes actually what the [ __ ]. do you mean yes because if I had sex. with a trans woman I'd be having sex. with a biological man and I'd.

because I have an opinion that differs. from yours. [Music]. he's not it would technically be. homosexual. a trans woman is a biological man I want. to meet you. it's not [ __ ] up it's real that's true. okay if you guys want to respect General. identities that's his though that's his. sexuality. I'm not allowed to say that I'm not. allowed to say that.

[Music]. yeah yeah you know you know what God. said it said he made the man and women. he made the man he actually said man. woman and then yes on that thing so. no he said. male and female created events. no the them refers to the men and the. women. so it's like they them but he's.

referring to both of them but he said. them so he's like saying Man created men. and women in them so he no no he's in. the beginning God created man both male. and female created he them that. when you refer to multiple people you. say them right. or you could be referring to their dance. it's English. don't. existence I met some it's crazy you've.

met very confused men and sometimes very. confused women but you have never met. most non-binary people I mean are women. not men yeah why do you think that is. um because they don't have to face the. consequences of all their friends being. jackasses a woman a woman coming out as. non-binary probably will have a friend. group that will accept her more than a. man than man than a man coming out as. non-binary oh you're I thought you were. saying the women get into this stuff.

because they're really messed up or. something more than the men are but. you're saying that this is a real. category of being and it's just the men. are afraid to admit it you can't. seriously believe that I do believe. there's people who are I don't know if. it's ambiguous or what it is there's. people who were born in their wrong. gender there's people who are born and. they don't feel like they fit in either. box do I think people are born that. believe they're cats and stuff no I. don't believe that [ __ ] no they're. probably think that though okay I'm.

saying no I don't I'm not saying that's. correct but there I haven't seen. anything to back that up but I just. the fact that you guys why in what in. anyone's right mind would somebody go. from like Bruce Jenner for example. Caitlyn Jenner now for example. did you just successfully. successful athlete Olympian whatever all. this is had a was married to Kris Jenner. had the [ __ ] life of whatever.

unless. she truly believed that and felt that. deep inside of her core. she ultimately ruined her life for. basically a Whole Decade he became he. became much more relevant and famous I I. highly highly he was on magazine covers. everybody he's been on magazine covers. she's an Olympian that's not she's not. on training many decades ago exactly he. was on a magazine cover for the first. time in decades but after she came out. as a transgender she got way more hate.

exactly and her and she got the only. thing being talked about is not being. made more money but no she okay so take. away okay sorry Caitlyn Jenner. your your basic day-to-day person okay. you're not gonna like this one okay I. know not you you for example okay. there's people like you who are super. conservative right in their views and. stuff and then. they wake up and then they want to be a. woman is it because they just woke up.

and want to be women or is it because. they finally found the courage to come. out with something they've been. suppressing their whole lives I just. don't understand why you guys think. somebody would risk like yes I'm sure. some people can benefit from coming out. with trans but most people do not. benefit from that so why would somebody. risk their whole livelihood not even. just career but literally trans. especially sexual fetish sexual. bothering you I think I feel like why. does it bother people because it isn't. true but why does like why is that. harming you it's not hurting anyone so.

do you go around do you go around. fighting people who think the world's. flat do you go around Society no well. because in the case of transgenderism. and this ridiculous this idea that man. that men secretly be women and vice. versa there are very practical effects. that we see like for instance. these children yeah well it's obvious. push down to children we're castrating. children left and right which is insane. but also if they're if we accept. transgenderism at all even for one. single adult person that means that. certain things will change in society.

women don't get maybe things need to. change women don't get to well perhaps. but at least one could have the debate. women don't get to have their own. bathrooms women don't get to have their. own sports teams women don't get to have. their own specific rights and places in. society protections and civil rights law. they lose that because some men can say. that they're women so it seems to me the. obvious question to ask is not well what. does it matter to you who really cares. first of all the people pushing this. seem to care a lot but the question to. ask is is it true are these men who say. that they're women actually women or are.

they men who are confused or who have. weird sexual fetishes or have disordered. gender-wise they are biologically. they're not so that's the difference. there's the difference is like science. and then the other difference is like. how you feel in your head and the way. you are in society there's a huge. difference the difference is like the. chromosomes and then your mentality okay. so if there's a disagreement between. your what you're saying is your physical. self and your uh your emotional self. your psychological self then why would. you not just change your mind if the.

options are chop up your body to make. yourself go through gruesome surgeries. if you're living with your mind for your. whole life and you understand like oh. I've been trying to change it like she. said most people are repressing it and. are trying to change it but they just. can't so why would I it's this is. something physical that I can easily go. change instead of trying to retrain your. thought process over and over and over. and over but it's like they'd rather be. dead they would rather be dead than. living the lie. if you bring up like suicidality there. is no evidence that having these.

surgeries and pretending to be the. opposite sex reduces any of that. whatsoever. because there's going to be yeah there's. going to be dysphoria forever especially. from people like you guys so it doesn't. have internet no it's it's from. themselves because they know because. I didn't even get to speak on the but. what you said is totally right okay so. let me since we're gonna go back to that. the video I got played right. if Chase if you don't want to sleep with. a trans woman that is your prerogative I. don't give a [ __ ] what you want to do.

that is your preference that does not. make you transphobic at all but to get. up on a podcast that has almost 4. million viewers and to say that any man. who chooses to sleep with a trans woman. is now taking part in homosexual gay. activities I feel like that it's wrong I. feel like that is hateful and for. somebody who claims to be so religious. so God knew born again virgin Christian. I think that's very hateful of you if. you want to say I personally want to do. that that's not for me then that's your. thing answer the question.

it's a step further is it hateful to say. that a man can't really secretly be a. woman I'm saying it's hurtful to say. that sleeping for any man to sleep the. first question you have to answer is not. that's not what I'm talking about what. happened but I'm referring I'm picking. up on his point the question is what is. a trans woman and so what Chase would. say and what I would say and what. everybody Threat all of human history. until five minutes ago would say is that. a trans woman is just a man who is. pretending to be a woman so I'm the only.

one who thinks this one yeah no she's a. lot of people are saying it now but it's. you're historically speaking yes. statistically zero percent of people. ever have thought that a man wearing. their cultures. for decades and decades and decades and. decades living thing in certain cultures. like a modern so you don't don't erase. them but then you're erasing them. I could be like oh well there's some. people who believe in this one ancient. thing called the Bible but yeah some of.

them what enrolled with him. when you're talking about the country. this weird species of prostitute in. Thailand weird species yes you don't. understand how that sounds you know it. sounds precise a weird species so now. we're not human so backwards a species. let them explain yeah so it's a type so. even there's this weird phenomenon in. Thailand for example where they're these. guys American men go to yeah well they. probably shouldn't do that but the the. reason that that is different is because.

it's not those people are not saying I. am really a woman that's a weird bizarre. cultural carve out that exists in. Thailand the difference here is and what. you're saying is that a man who puts on. a dress puts on a wig chops his body up. calls himself a woman is actually a. woman and I just don't see how you could. believe that that is true so she. has a vagina [ __ ] probably [ __ ]. tighter than mine Double D rocks pair. down to the [ __ ] ass looks like a.

woman talks like a woman does everything. besides menstrate and can give birth. what is what is separating her between. the woman who are infertile who can't. have birth or a woman after menopause or. the woman who never get their period so. physically are they not women either. physically speaking one those are pretty. big differences and there are other. differences too in terms of their bone. density and the shape oh yeah but also. there's a chromosomal difference which. is that that woman as you call still. chromosomally is a man and then beyond.

that are you actually saying that women. are just their bodies that a woman is. nothing more than are you seeing a woman. is just her chromosomes she's nothing. more I'm saying the woman is much more. than all of that that actually me too. that's why I'm saying that but if she. feels since the days. yes and that person woke up the first. day of their conscience and since they. can remember they remember their soul. being a woman or man or whatever. do you believe people aren't gay either.

then deeply believe nobody's gay and. they just do it for attention to say I. am gay means that I have an attraction. to a member of the same sex okay I'm. just clarifying because a lot of people. who usually do this this trans argument. are also. there nobody denies that certain people. have different sexual attractions in. fact people deny it all the time. actually they say it's a choice that. they're choosing to do that they're. certainly choosing to engage in certain. behaviors choosing to engage because. it's a it's your biological driven no. you can't suppress your own desires I. have all sorts of desires that are.

repressed yes you can say why should. somebody get a delicious hard Seltzer. yes you can express your own desires but. why should somebody have to suppress if. it's too legal consenting adults why. should somebody have to suppress that. just because we don't have obligations. to reality into the truth what's the. reality the reality is the reality is. the woman that's the reality the reality. is that a man in a dress is not a man or. is not a woman I was trying to get away. from something else the whole thing goes. back to where it's called transgender. and not trans sex like it's you can't. change your sex to the down to the. bottom of it your chromosomes are gonna. be your chromosomes but they're changing.

their gender and gender is a man-made. thing it's something that we've created. we've created genders and gender roles. in our society we did not create sex yes. there's men and female that goes back to. science or God whatever you would like. to say if gender is man-made then you're. saying it's artificial it's not real. it's not real oh okay so then who cares. exactly so why do you care oh well if. it's so if it's not real then the trans. woman is just a man foreign.

the male role right that kind of creates. the more I don't know I just think the. the whole argument about gender it's so. pushed out into the into our society I. don't think it's like this in the rest. of the world right now there's so many. other issues like the rest of the world.

knows 62 different genders yeah it's a. kind of insane I mean I don't wanna I'm. not hateful towards anyone I think as. long as you're a good person you can do. whatever you want I just don't like that. it's pushed on to children because like. a lot of people that are getting these. surgeries they regret it and then a lot. of children that are put onto hormones. it really messes with yours and also. obviously this is yours this is. something that is brand new to our our. society and there needs to be a lot more. research done and more understanding.

about it and like there needs to be laws. done so I understand I don't think kids. should be getting their parts changed. but I guess my question is what they. have to be 18 that's already in place no. no that's right you know the transition. process can start much younger hormones. yes but you. but like I used to teach a lot and just. form experience and you know I don't.

know much about so I don't want to like. say too much no you're right about. almost everything I'm very impressed. right and wrong like I don't know don't. tell me like oh I'm telling you I don't. care you can tell me no but you're right. about these basic things about your kids. right and a lot of kids I notice that. have a lot of these gender issues and. then they wear their gender on their. sleeve and then they're like I'm gay or. you know like they they're very they're. like they tend to have depression.

they're very like I feel like they need. support and help not just in the gender. department where people are pushing them. oh maybe you should be gay or maybe you. should do this like there's much more I. know girl come up to me I was giving a. speech and she said hey Michael thanks. for speaking out on the transgender. thing because I had gender dysphoria and. she was young I mean this girl was in. her it was a teenager and she said I. gender dysphoria and and my. psychologists were starting to push me. down this path of transition that's. wrong I believe that's right well she. said luckily I had good parents a good. priest and they said you're not actually. a boy and guess what happened she kept.

going to see psychologists they figured. out that actually she had undiagnosed. autism so they started treating her. autism and what do you know her gender. dysphoria greatly abated now it's. basically it all starts it goes back to. good family exactly because I've been. teaching in San Francisco since 2016. so. I've seen a lot of how that affects kids. I teach kids all the way from TK through. high school so yes I there is definitely. a correlation between the two but it's. typically because those kids you know.

depression can be something that brought. onto from your environment or it could. be something that's just a chemical. imbalance in your brain does it have to. become a situation. but usually. usually a lot of these times it's why. there's this correlation is because they. find that the lgbtq community or. whatever is more accepting so they think. oh just because my friends that I choose. to hang out with or gay and stuff means. I must be yes that's a problem yes they. shouldn't be able to just now go to. their therapist and say I want to now. change my hormones for sure that's why I.

don't you know in that situation it was. a priest but in a lot of cases it's. usually another therapist intervention. I'm sure you can in some places it's. easy but I don't have any trans friends. personally but I've watched a lot of. experiences online it is not easy to. just go through these surgeries you have. to get documents from family friends. therapists psychiatrists everything it's. not just you go you wake up one day and. say okay I'm a boy they're going to give. you hormones they're going to chop off. and do this that's not however I talked. to a girl who that is actually exactly. what happened she walked into a Planned.

Parenthood she said she had gender. dysphoria and she wanted to to receive. uh testosterone and she was able to. receive that prescription very quickly. hormones it's a lot easier because well. unless you're pretty most of the things. not all of them are reversible because. especially testosterone yeah it's not. all reversible but with those things I. could see how it is easier because it is. a hormone because just how those things. are given out for other situations yes. besides just the problem I guess is this. which is if you really believe as you.

say that for some people some people are. faking it right and some people think. they're a cat and they're not obviously. they're not a cat but for some people I. don't know who these people are. there are really men who are secretly. somehow women and therefore they should. transition become women so the question. is. at what point were they the wrong sex. it's from the moment of birth right they. were born that way so if they were born. that way then why wouldn't we trans the. kids because that's the whole thing is. how can a child be so certain they have.

to grow into those emotions and feelings. I thought they knew from that you just. said they knew they've known from the. beginning that something was wrong. that's usually what it is they know. something's wrong that they that they're. not fitting like for example it's not. sometimes they grow out of it. or they realize the other way might be. easier or that there's and then they're. people who are faking it yeah for a lot. of people who suffer gender dysphoria. used to call gender identity disorder. the vast majority of teenagers who. suffer that will grow out of it within a.

few years that gender dysphoria will go. away for some smaller percentage that. that dysphoria persists and I think. you're confusing maybe gender dysphoria. or not just you but these stats and. people who report back are confusing. sometimes gender dysphoria versus not. feeling like I don't know a woman when. you're growing up or feeling like a man. so that's also what people there are so. many terminology in words and buzzwords. out there these days that people try to. label themselves with anything when is. sometimes it's not that deep wait so. Kiko I have a question I kind of asked. this last show and I don't think I.

really got a proper answer on it so my. question was. ignoring gender identity ignoring gender. if we're just looking at sex if two so. two males I'm not talking about two men. I'm talking about two males if two males. were to have sex. is that not. gay is that not homosexual I'm not. saying it's wrong but is that some. sexualities or homosexual I base. sexuality off of gender so I would not I.

would need to know their gender and. other problems okay. you were dating or let's say you were. married to this guy he's been your. husband for 10 years and then one day he. says I'm a woman now and you went and. you engaged in that thing married. couples engage in would that would you. say you're a lesbian now she's the. husband you've been married she wouldn't. be a lesbian but maybe she's bisexual. now or maybe she's her her husband is. now her yeah I get what you're trying to. get at yeah your point you're trying to. get at and.

technically. yeah I mean you don't I think it's I. think it's I think it's would be. ridiculous like for people to like you. know go out in public and not transition. themselves at all and expect to be like. if you thought your pronouns were she. hers to expect people to refer to you as. she her or ma'am whatever presenting. yourself like this yeah I think things. like that are ridiculous there has to be. some types where it says gender roles so. that's the whole that's the whole reason. why they're wanting to.

say they're transgender is because they. want to follow the other gender role. right so follow the gender so then. instead but this is a great point. because this is where I differ from some. of the conservatives here a lot of the. conservatives say gender expression is. totally fake and sex is all that matters. and I'm kind of with you in the sense. that I think gender expression obvious. is real they're feminine man they're. masculine women all that's true but. instead of concluding therefore that we. have the right not only to have any. gender expression we want but actually. to be the different sex and to call. myself a woman or call myself a man why.

didn't we take in the other direction. and say if you're a man there's. obviously diversity is the spice of life. but you have a general obligation to act. like a man and if you're a woman you can. be kind of diverse and you can be a. little more tomboyish maybe or whatever. but you have a general obligation to act. like a woman I feel like we do and if. you don't you get bully and ostracized. into the group there's cultural pressure. let me uh interject really quick we have. 8 000 people watching the chat is on. fire guys I just got a text from Chase. if we we can get the likes to 5 000.

that's at 3.7 K right now if you can get. the likes to 5 000 Chase we'll call in. right now and we can no you don't want. to talk to chase different episode well. no we got it wow you're checking your. watch this game where we. I would like to do I would like to do a. whole episode with Jason well Chase just. wants to say hi really quick oh yeah. yeah like a two minute High it has to be. why Always In the End like can we guys. get the likes to 5 000 don't worry it's.

just gonna be a two minute phone call he. just wants to check in see how you doing. but why is he the co-host oh he well no. he was what does he do like I want to. know well no he was just he's been a. male guest a couple times on the show he. was the guy yeah yeah that we just. reacted to so uh guys get the likes to. 5000 and we'll get Chase to come in. there since all these people are. watching I also want to see. um we need more strong men in like. movies and TV shows I feel like a lot of. movies and two shows talking about the.

men like they don't kill like they don't. kill monsters anymore are you go on. Netflix and scroll down every maybe. you're just consuming media that's not. saying that but that's still like the. premise of most no well isn't all the. men in TV or like these words. and in all the superhero and like cool. guy movies watch.

maybe they're just like it's finally. equaling out and it's strong men and. women in both different I don't think. they're equaling out I think they're. trying to make men weaker so true. they're trying to pretend that women are. men and men are I like both I like. strong women I like strong men but a. strong woman and a strong man don't look. the same no like in different movies. totally no no but I'm saying even what. it means to be a strong woman doesn't. mean I agree with it like they say that. in you know in the past that there were. no strong women characters but I feel. like they were like yeah. where is Queens yeah Cleopatra Cleopatra.

yeah in All Greek mythology yeah Greek. mythology it's like all mythology yeah. in Christianity the Virgin Mary. Fiona and Tatum you guys have been a. little quiet do you guys have any. thing we're 300 likes Away by the way. wow I think you should go do a dance. yeah in the in the Trilby or the well. while we do that let me uh just get a. couple soup chats in uh we're pretty. behind on the soup chat so I will try to.

get through all of them guys but sorry. that we've had a very Lively. conversation so uh. so uh it's there's quite a few sorry for. the backlog here uh okay we did that one. I think we did did we do we did right. yeah. uh ft3 uh 50 Super Chat question for. Michael what percent of modern women do. you think are capable of entering in a. faith-based marriage where a divorce is. simply not an option that's where that. argument falls apart in 2023. it's it's. any woman could it's just you know are.

you willing to do that you know anyway. it's never too late for anybody anybody. can change them I've changed my mind on. a million things I asked my friend. Andrew claven when I was getting married. I said what what advice do you give me. to get married he said okay uh reject. feminism just reject it entirely it'll. make your life miserable and two don't. sleep with other people and if you do. those two things you're going to have a. good marriage and I think that's the. case and so you know if. you you'd just have to be so. straightforward about it from the very. beginning I I feel all the problems of.

the hookup culture and the talking. culture and all all the problems you're. describing are because there's so much. uncertainty and nobody has any idea what. the hell anybody's supposed to do. because there are no standards and there. are no Norms we don't even know what a. man is and what a woman is anymore and. we don't even see depictions of this. that we can emulate and so I think you. know we're all we're all complaining. here well I'm not about how we don't. want things to be black and white but if. things were a little more black and. white if we had Clarity on some of these. issues then you wouldn't be getting into. marriage like Brian is worried is this. woman going to take my kids and half my.

stuff you should go to another country. it's much more black and white it is I. know yeah and you find that free and. liberating when it's much more black and. white and when you have no it's all oh. we'll come back to you soon 200. so you. want Derek thank you for what they. believe there but they didn't believe. what they really are I'm still not gay. and definitely not delusional that is a. pretty simple concept just be gay Kiko. teaches asteroid please you want the. asteroid okay here we go. uh send the asteroid Lads oh oh my God.

oh my goodness okay uh yo Derek thank. you man or Travis I believe in it thank. you man um here we've got this next one. we have yo Davon Jackson thank you for. the big hundred man so I marry you. promise to protect and provide for you. and in return you don't even take my. last name. Tatum all right once again. oops. oh my goodness whoa oh my God.

I need sound effect I know I I suppose I. do um. all right have you changed your mind on. no Tatum Atlas hello all right okay can. you show the can you show the camera the. uh your the ring again that I. gave you. oh wow wow damn okay cool uh and then we. have uh Hearn thank you for the 50 man. big fan of both you guys been watching. whatever since the pranks as I'm 30 and. the dinosaur as well yep feel you on.

that one also as much as I disagree with. Kiko I strongly respect her for coming. back on again and again uh hashtag. marriage for the L hashtag where's ostis. hashtag certified10 well I certainly uh. Kiko I I uh commend you for you know. returning on the show after we you know. obviously we have exchanges and debates. but uh I'm I'm that that seems like a. very not genuine. smile you just.

that was a. anyways in any case he goes just. sticking around for me I think I'm. because because we're this close to. making Kiko pro-life we're gonna wait no. you're not you're nowhere don't ever say. my name. that just made my stomach hurt Jesus. okay I think you're great though but I. will never ever change my opinion on. that some other things you might get me. you might get me on some other things. yeah you do I'm saying I'm literally. telling you I'm you could probably not.

probably it is. possible for you to change my opinion on. almost absolutely anything. besides pro-life versus poor choice. that's all I'm saying that when I I have. I've done my research I have my ducks in. order I'm not changing my my opinions. that's right well maybe I'll start with. all the other stuff and I'll build up to. the yeah. guys 200 I think is it what 200 more. likes and we will call the new one oh. maybe 100 more likes okay uh we have uh. we did this one hey thank you Hearn we.

have Martin here hey thank you man. German girl Brian doesn't need to. experience his parents divorce to be. nervous about divorce I think she's uh. from new Ukraine uh it's called being a. sentient aware human being women always. pull the cat causal connection card must. you have walked the streets of Jerusalem. to speak about Jesus good point good. point. all right we have uh drive here uh merci. beaucoupler Canadian 50. uh thank you.

just tuned in not the crossover I. expected Mr Knowles not against. sacramental marriage or kids but I fear. the gov government contract that seems. to incentivize broken homes add to that. the emotional and financial toll or the. child support and imprisonment yeah well. you make a great point you don't make a. good point against the government being. involved in marriage the state the. government has always been involved in. marriage from the dawn of time and until. the present because it's a public act. and well and churches very often were.

established in the in the countries. um but but it's a public act right that. you need Witnesses you usually do in. front of the community there's a. minister so it's got obviously got to. involve the public and public just means. politics but to the point that yeah the. government used to incentivize people. staying together made divorce very hard. didn't mean you lose you lost half your. stuff and lost your kids you know so. yeah the government really screwed it up. and we should just pass laws to make. divorce much harder and make marriage. much stronger and then then we'll have. better incentive to get married divorce.

should be harder to do I think people. get married I agree too much too often. too soon all right we have uh Ryan the. eating Warrior once again hey thank you. man. some great beard you have there by the. way I think there's a 50 if a guy excuse. me if a guy isn't okay with baby. deleting that's their deal breaker send. the asteroid baby deleting what if a guy. feel like abortion abortion you're. saying if you have a guy is reacting to. that he's yeah he's mad that way a lot. of us said if someone was pro-life yo. Ryan thank you there for the 50. uh and. let me do uh three more soup chats then.

we're gonna call Chase uh Frankie K. thank you for the 50 my hot take women. make that face again Kiara no I won't. you don't get anything more from me. all right we have uh Frankie K thanks. for the 50. my hot take women who have. broken up friend groups by dating. everyone in them women with over 300. bodies are generally loose women should. not be giving out marriage advice Kiko. Kiko I didn't break out the front I. didn't break yeah that friend group is. still strong they're so strong they just.

all share an affinity for you yes yeah. they all just were like they were just I. mean. they're still together they're all good. friends now so I didn't break them apart. if anything I made them grow stronger. together. yeah they bonded over my hatred they're. like oh she got us and now they're all. besties for rest of Life wow so I. actually helped them I don't know what. they're talking about you you were a. saint I was doing God's work. oh hi daughter. 200 thank you man girl W the pony you.

are the epitome of waiting to respond. instead of listening then replying be. quiet for a second and just contemplate. a thought deeper than a rain puddle. Brian keep it up Mike good to see you on. here that will DeGraw it's a very. encouraging Super Chat there you go. great there you go yeah thank you there. uh CW DeGraw appreciate it. um all right we have I was told by the. comments I wasn't speaking enough. actually oh well I think at the.

beginning of the show maybe a little bit. and then and then I can't I can't I. can't win or lose you know yeah damned. if you do damned if you don't so might. as well just do the story of your life. uh how how did you spell your name Kiara. Kiara. he's asking how you spell your name. Chase says hi by the way. Chase is asking us by my name no this is. Frankie K oh Kiko is Bo k e e k o no no. they well I think you're actually. uh and then two more soup shots and then.

we're gonna call Chase yo Zachary thank. you for the 50 man you're relying on. beliefs in both cases third wave. feminism versus religion at the end of. the day A woman has control by not. having uh sex uh grape accounts for less. than one percent of abortion more late. term abortions than gun homicide Zachary. oh for sure can we check that stat like. right now I mean more people are more. late term late term abortion so you're. saying after 30 weeks take place then. gun homicides in America is that we're. saying I I would love to check the stats.

on that one the thing about gun I think. Michael should speak on real masculine. values to the panel all these goofy red. pale coaches are telling all these men. that high value means being free to. cheat on women masculinity has nothing. to do with promiscuity we'll take women. and men to change current dating culture. together yeah really great point I find. all the red pill stuff is so stupid it's. just not because it's it it's just this. it's just another shade of liberalism.

and feminism. Andrew you know Andrew take got big. because he uh says. yeah yeah well and he also contradicts. political correctness and wokeness and. says really basic stuff like men are not. women and all that stuff you know but. but uh be afraid like the Romanian. government's gonna come in and just want. to hear some of you but but the problem. is the guy the guy is a pimp right so. he's in prison for being a pin at least. you own up to it because every other. person comes up in here like oh no yeah.

oh no it's just don't be a pimp I mean I. mean it's like pretty basic right. he sells Women's flesh for money yeah. yeah honestly online. it's neither people don't usually move. to Romania for normal reasons so I don't. know he's not the worst guy in the world. he's contradicting the the politically. correct I think he's a genius he's. obviously he's a monkey. and he seems like he's trying to get.

more serious right he's taking he's. already earned all his money off of all. the incels now he can like start to show. his real personality and how he's. actually a genius for using all these. but he was committed he was committing. fraud yeah fraud is like basically as. bad a sin as you can commit Dante was. brought in the lowest circles. he can change his life I know you think. he could buy himself out of prison he. can change his life and repent and maybe. he's in the process of that but yeah you. don't want to model your life after some.

pimp because it also it just goes. nowhere I mean this is the problem with. if you're just dating dating dating and. you have no interest in getting married. or anything it's just there's no point. to it you know you just remain. perpetually a child and so you're a. little boy you're not a man I was crying. about that oh we were talking about that. earlier all right one uh last Super Chat. and then we're gonna change the subject. Rob CD thank you thank you for the 50. man really appreciate it this show. provides a great argument to repeal the. 19th Amendment great job.

ladies do you have a response to is I. believe that's woman's suffrage it was. yeah and the suffrage now you know. there's too much suffraging in the world. um. his comments guys he wants to take away. your right to vote. yeah I don't know anyways. okay um I've never voted anything that's. very contradicting to what you said I. mean besides the abortion of the day but. I think you and you guys are you know a.

lot of common ground the reason there. were a lot of women when when the 19th. amendment was ratified there were a lot. of women who opposed it. people don't really make sense of them. why would women not want the right to. vote. but the argument was that the political. unit should be the family so there. should be one vote per family which now. would be you would like talk about it. doesn't make one person goes and votes. yeah basically and so now it would never. that would never happen because if you. if you took that away then the single. women would just outnumber the married.

women and and uh or they'd have such a. disproportionate representation that. they'd just elected Labs all the time. but it does raise this interesting. question which is why would women oppose. their own right to vote and then I think. well okay I'm a millennial Millennials. vote for Libs all the time and they. screw up the whole country if you told. me right now Michael we're going to take. away the right to vote from all. Millennials so you will lose your right. to vote but Republicans will win the. elections and conservatives would win. I'd think like okay take it I don't even. want to go vote on Tuesday and why not. what's the point of voting is voting so. that I go get a sticker and I feel good.

about the act in itself no the point of. voting is good government in the end. yeah but does voting really matter. that's another great question no it. doesn't so I've never voted okay. so like the for like the the what's it. called hold on. like no I live in California why does it. matter yeah Chase. hear me yeah hey uh one in the chat guys. if you're able to hear Chase hey Chase. can you just say uh testing one two one. two testing one two one two what's up.

Bros in the chat hey let us know if it's. uh coming in good Eric is it uh. audio coming in good can you guys hear. me. yeah the chat's catching up we're just. waiting to see if the chat can hear you. this way it's kind of. kind of a scuff set up we're really far. behind on the chat holy crap. sorry guys one okay perfect all right um. so are you guys gonna hey Chase.

what's up guys what's up Michael hey. what's up Kiko hello to the rest of the. ladies on the pan shout out to the Bros. in the chat he knows me by first name. Chase we were just admiring these. beautiful argument about transgenderism. which was pithy and Illuminating and. just a magnificent performance. thank you yes. yes Kiko is not amused by that. [Laughter]. I want a part two.

um well I was born in Armenia I lived in. Russia then we moved to Houston Texas. and I went to school in New York and. then moved to LA. well I I just wanted to say your uh your. takes have been extremely based tonight. and I've heard that uh a lot of women in. Eastern Europe have have similar base. takes and Traditional Values is that. true yeah yeah I mean based on historic.

you know history and surviving I guess. that's where it stems from but yeah. more Eastern European women to America. so that we can uh set things you know. everybody's right it's my only. pro-immigration area I say yes Eastern. European based right-wing women let me. just add it they all get green cards. yeah I want to add to that the gymnasts. the Eastern European gymnasts we're.

getting very specific now they can come. they can so um Chase do you have. anything you want to say to Kiko. um I just want to uh I want to commend. her for her continued participation on. the podcast apparently she's got you. know some pretty uh so pretty thick skin. I don't I don't know if she's received. any hatred from the uh that podcast we. did I'm curious Kiko have you received. any hatred has it been okay what's the. response been on your end.

um yeah like I'm getting pretty harassed. yesterday I was told they're gonna Burn. Me Alive behead me chop me up gut me I. won't include the n-words that they said. in it but. just a vow disavow yeah 100 I just want. to say for everybody watching the show. and listening uh even though Kiko and I. disagree on some of these fundamental. things I don't think it's okay to uh. send her death threats or anything. we can disagree.

um and I'm curious Kiko if if you had. the opportunity to go back would you do. anything differently do you feel like. you handled yourself the way you wanted. to do you still feel the same what do. you think. um the only thing I would have changed. is I would not have told you to shut the. [ __ ] up probably what about the the. that no I definitely would have still. told you something yeah still would have. said that maybe a bit better yeah I. should have told you shut the [ __ ] up no. but you could still suck multiple [ __ ].

from that statement definitely but and I. wish I just wish um my biggest regret in. that situation is I have been staying. for a while you know I had to leave to. go to work so I do wish we could have. not had a whole dragged out conversation. about it but. um exchange more words before I made my. exit. right I understand I understand well I. will still pass on your uh. recommendation for me to suck dicks. the ones disavowed.

if I were to say. that men or men and women are women and. abortion is murder and Christ is Lord. I'm curious what would you say to that. I have to say amen I said I'll see you. in hell my brother well you won't see. him yeah I will because if he's going. around muttering that [ __ ] I think we're. gonna end up in the same place what. I. um.

I left him a good six years ago and I. plan on staying here come back I don't. want to why not I was there for a good. 16 years all the [ __ ] ready made my. exit don't plan on returning chase you. have any pithy apologetics and. evangelism. oh we could I mean we could definitely. get into that I think it's a little bit. beyond the scope of right now.

curiosity Kiko what what was the final. nail in the coffin for your faith what. was it ultimately that turned you away. from it all. um just realizing how many things were. Rewritten in the Bible I'm talking. mostly from Catholicism not Christianity. I wasn't very pertained in that but just. how many things have Rewritten the Bible. that people nowadays say is from like. homosexuality and such but really it's. about the p word and just there's so. many. people in the higher church that are p.

word so they try to rewrite history to. make it about homosexuality when really. it's about you know not doing that. things but you know we struggle with. that in the Catholic church so we had to. rewrite a little bit of things you know. Catholics have a lower rate of of. pedophilia and sexual abuse than public. schools by a lot really yeah I went to. Catholic school but yeah I mean I don't. know any of my public school friends. that were. touched by any of their teachers but I. can't say that about my classmates well. yeah I mean I'm not downplaying. obviously sexual abuse exists everywhere.

but the Catholic church does not have a. higher rate of sexual abuse than any. other religion and it has a much lower. rate than public schools so okay but. you're saying the public schools but. we're talking about religion and I'm. just saying that there's a correlation. yeah I can hear you if we could for just. a moment I want to go back to the claim. that Kiko just made so in Leviticus it. says that if a Man Lies with a male as. he would with a woman that's an. Abomination and it also says in Genesis. that cheese you're talking about. religion and not everyone's religious.

[Music]. I'm sorry as soon as you pull out the. whole mumbo jumbo like it's just because. you said it you said it's all been. Rewritten and you learned this I know. but then Chase quoted directly from. Genesis and Leviticus and he could quote. from the gospel of Matthew and many. other places in the in the Bible and so. he's saying is that was this Rewritten. and my husband I think these girls might. see it too I'm not using religious. jargon or these terminologies when he.

says that [ __ ] it is in one here out the. other we don't even listen I couldn't. even tell you one thing she just said. because we don't care yes religion has. nothing to do with us chase is it cool. they separate State and religion no but. he I just y'all can believe what you. want it doesn't hurt us for y'all to. believe what you want but you're not. going to indoctrine on us to believe. that as it was exactly but believe what. you want but we're not but that's also. kind of a religious view I guess is the. issue to say like it's cool for everyone. to believe what they want. Isabel.

can you hear me yeah go ahead go ahead. Chase. there is this. claim mean. that cures about homosexuality were. Rewritten can I just reference. scriptures. and so I'm asking which of those. scriptures were Rewritten oh I couldn't. recite on top of my head I don't give a. [ __ ] like that at all I've just. researched it before I know it's. happened but I don't keep that written. in my medicine maybe Philippians 132 has. been Rewritten to be about sexuality. instead of like no I don't I don't care. about the [ __ ] on my day-to-day life. like you guys do but it's just maybe if.

that's the thing that kind of turns you. up you said oh I just realized this was. all Rewritten and then you can't recall. how because there's multiple things. after 16 years there's like multiple. things I would just build up so that was. finally kind of like the one nail in the. coffin but it wasn't such a big nail for. me to like be ingrained my mind because. there was already so many things leading. up to it it was kind of just like. tipping the boat over like is it maybe. if you thought that was so important and. then you realize you couldn't recall it. is it possible that you were just. mistaken and you actually it's not even. you're just confident even though you. can't recall.

let's move let's move away from that but. Chase how about this when we when we. have you on the show uh we'll we'll do a. you and Kiko. round two round two yeah. I think she's down I think she's down. and so yeah that's like a kind of on the. fence but uh uh Chase any uh final any. final messages and then also uh we're.

gonna need to hear a uh Deus Vault from. you. thank you. and uh you know just keep up the great. work Brian and they use Vault bra let's. go in the chat tell them tell them you. want to see it in the chat.

hey good speaking with you chase my man. you guys God bless you. good night man I want Chase on here next. time I'm in town. so okay let me uh we we do have to get. through the uh super chats here so. I know I know I'll try to uh I'll try to. uh I wish I had more time okay so we. have uh. Stephen Wagner thank you for the 50. why. should a child be blamed for the sins of. the father out of 800k abortions 800s.

from grape uh the other 792k is because. they didn't want it as someone who was. almost boarded I'm glad I wasn't and now. have 12 year old son me living made him. Hey Stephen Wagner I think for the 50. there that's changing even fewer than me. though uh we have uh zanteans here have. a safe way to have an abortion is just a. [ __ ] way for modern women to justify. their lack of accountability just like. when they use the one percent stat of. grape most three oh my God uh don't want. consequences so they can sell their. mental mental physical trauma to any.

simps sentience there with the hot hot. take can I ask what's a 304. uh area. code I think it's an error is it an area. code what they call it no it's it's you. know it's like you know a calculator. like boobs and backwards oh man I'm. gonna start using that yeah. I forgot how it's spelled it's like. three one six or something I just don't. spell it like the farm equipment I. always thought it was just a joke but. yeah all right we have uh dragon Stalin.

thing dragon dragons dragon's Talon. excuse me thank you for the 50. hypocrisy check if these women want. abortion then shouldn't men who didn't. want the child uh oh hold on super. chatted. 100.99. Michael I would encourage you to be more. informed about the red pill Community. instead of talking down against them. empiricism beats religion when it comes. to relationships just because you're.

religious in your marriage does not make. you any more righteous. yeah it doesn't necessarily make me more. righteous I could sin just as badly as. anybody and frequently do but uh when. you say empiricism the the premise that. you're espousing is that the fundamental. nature of reality is physical and. scientific and you can look at it with a. microscope and that isn't true we know. that isn't true because the fact that. we're speaking right now about ideas. which are not physical shows you that. and that that's why the physical world. has to rest on a metaphysical world and. it's why you should do the right thing. and not just be a modern scientistic man.

uh Talon here men who didn't want the. child but the woman had the child. anyways also not have to pay child. support I will try to parse that later. tonight uh I think it's a little bit of. uh. yeah all right uh the Lomax SGD I'm not. sure what currency this is anybody. Michael any. SGD what what currency is that is. Singaporean didn't.

Singaporean dollar if your pet keeps. running out of the cage you'd build a. better cage or try to persuade said pet. that it should stop trying it's the same. if women would stop spreading legs left. and right men would learn to not Chase. coochie all the time can we really claim. that when we've already seen what. happens with men don't get what they. want absolutely like we've already seen. what happens with that one no that would. go a long way I mean I'm not blaming. women men bear a lot of responsibility. but women should stop providing that.

incentive too if a woman wants to [ __ ]. as many men as she can in her life let. her [ __ ] as many men as she wants her. life and let her go find another man. who's okay with that just if she doesn't. expect a modest man to want her it's not. that hard but if you want a muslimin get. yourself a modest woman no the Lomax. though is saying he's trying to help. women here right he's saying women. you're talking about this problem with. Mana very irresponsible and they don't. do what they're supposed to do and that. that's all true but but one of the. incentives for men to act the way they. should is for women to say no to to them.

and the secret is that men love to be. told no and they like the sort of the. chase of a woman they like pursuing a. woman and then it makes it sort of more. satisfying when a man finally gets that. thing that he desires and it it will. increase a woman's sense of self-worth. sense of status the closeness of their. relationship and so even just for. self-interest it's like your whole. relationship is going to be based on. just the chase of it all just the chase. instead of you just liking it it's just. you're it's like that's why there's a. lot of girls who I know who are like oh. yeah I don't sleep around blah blah so.

they'll have multiple men who are. stringing them on for four months at a. time or whatever it is and then they. finally get it and now it's gone now. what if they wait what if they wait. though until marriage until marriage. yeah so then they're gonna get married. do all the paperwork and then he's gonna. be pissed when she leaves him and the. divorce rate's not going to be fixed but. that's not her that's not her problem. then she gets half his stuff right right. so why would you guys want that I don't. see why you guys think that's a win-win. situation I still see that as a win-lose. it would be better for the men to get. married anyway and if they can wait and.

and there there is some leverage and. there is some modesty and there's some. natural development of human desire my. boyfriend my boyfriend's gonna marry me. not because he has to marry me to [ __ ]. me because he wants to marry me you know. have you ever weighed it before having. sex do you think I'm just [ __ ]. everyone I mean no I'm just saying. I've been I've I've gone over a year. plus with not having sex I don't need. sex I just think that is something that. should be taking part before you are. getting married so you dated somebody. for a year no no no I'm saying I've been.

celibate for a year I'm asking how long. have you dated somebody without having. sex with that since being sexually. active yeah probably like three months. four months if we were like exclusive. like you're talking about since. exclusivity yeah like we'd be exclusive. would you say that the feeling after of. doing that after three or four months. was better than say a one night stand. sure I've only ever had one one night. stand it was kind of a different. predicament so actually no because that. one night stand was special for a reason. anyways.

um it's just yes but then I've also had. that come where it's like yeah it's. great right but then it's also like when. it's terrible right you wait the four. months and it the sex is terrible I. would have been we would would have ran. to a lot of problems in our relationship. if I would have ended up staying with. them until we got married and then we. would have had sex and it would have. been like that our marriage yes here uh. just just to keep things moving along. Kiko can I have you read this one from. Marquis Martin Kiko grow up and embrace. adulthood in society we have polite.

discourse to be so upset and unhinged. because someone else has a differing. opinion is so off-putting it's what. makes the world interesting the fact. that you're so upset means your ideas. are on. do you have a response to Marquis. I think it's actually markovius is sorry. I'm sorry markovius so you're on here to. watch I'm on here to speak and that's. what this is about that's why you have. to pay to speak oh she got you there oh.

wow okay uh super RC thank you for the. 50 as masculine then we should be. compassionate let them decide whether. they want to have a baby or not it's not. black and white there's no proof of God. or the right religion there's hundreds. of religion uh can't use religion as. facts for law super Ronnie. it's just so incoherent because people. now treat this stuff as though you're. like talking about a magical Sky daddy. with a beard or whatever. especially an AI pass some robot number.

yeah that's that's right it's gonna wipe. us all out yeah it's like it's like. arguments yeah it's like an AI machine. that looks like oh by the way you never. answered so the actual baby thing would. you agree if someone wants doesn't want. to have the baby to put that well I. think he is the last resort as a last. resort but the but no the thing is the. existence of God can be known with. certainty from the natural world by the. light of human reason and you act you. actually have to reason about all these. things if you want to pass a law against. parking tickets or taxes you have to. take into account moral thoughts so yeah.

the religion is essential to it as we. all know. [Music]. like to us like you know how back in the.

day when people are like oh I'm sick of. a mental illness they're like oh the. devil Satan I feel like we're gonna get. to a point Society with like what you're. saying right now is like every like. they're gonna think you're crazy. you sound crazy like you sound crazy. when you say that [ __ ] like I hope you I. don't know if it doesn't mean but you. literally sound like Looney Tunes like. you're ready to get locked up. you just told me. what you want you just told me that if a. man has sex with an another man while. that other man is wearing a dress he's. not engaged in a homosexual action.

because the second man is secretly a. woman but you're telling me secret I but. by using my right reason to deduce from. the world that because the world is. saying motion there has to be an unmoved. mover or because the world is caused. there has to be an uncaused cause or for. any other number of reasons we can. conclude that God must exist in order. for this contingent world to to be that. seems a little crazy and they're right. there folks is exactly what the [ __ ] I'm. talking about like that was like you. barely even used any religious jargon.

but it's like right I use logic. is the language. thank you guys like some people. commented no girl is worth waiting three. months what do you think no crosswords. waiting three months who is this guy is. this guy just like picking up hookers. every night and sort of like paying a. cheap kind of no I would say three. months is a good minimum to start with. maybe Eric can you open the door a.

little bit it's a little stuffy it's all. personal it's all personal preference. what did you say or it's objectively. true or false you know it's like either. yes. no no no oh true or false objective no. it's just you find somebody who believes. what you believe and go make babies have. love with them like you did and we'll. yeah happy for you but like me yeah we. wouldn't you know we wouldn't so I'm. gonna meet somebody who I already have. who we share a lot of similar views we. share some differing views but we know.

how to respect each other's views. because they're not so polarizing that. we are disrespecting each other that. makes sense yeah but is there isn't. there like. aren't there better and worse ways to. live I can't yeah like you seem like. you're living your life in agony so. worried about what it is actually I'm. the happiest guy I know but like maybe. okay. I don't exactly raise my voice.

but maybe not you necessarily but I do. know so many people who like literally. like they are straight men but are just. sitting rocking at night at the thought. of a trans woman having sex with. straight men like why are you guys so. concerned like because. I'm so serious right now yeah because. they're pushing it up. somebody you know what's crazy okay you.

know that thing that's circularly around. with me that [ __ ] has probably what like. three million views now or six million. views on Twitter it is it's of me I'm. the one speaking in the video it is not. once come up on any of my social media. platforms I'm only getting people sent. to me and I'm in it it's because you. guys are making that your life step away. from the internet go touch some grass. you guys say it's only one percent of. people go put surround yourself without. that Pico the reason is because in up. until 2015 no one there was no such. thing as transgenderism As a matter of. public life in 2015 Barack Obama decided.

to insert it into military policy and. then also in 2015 a bunch of liberals in. North Carolina passed an ordinance that. said that there were no women's. bathrooms anymore because dudes can go. into the women's bathroom so it was the. pro-transgender well you know right now. it's not trans woman who are it's those. weirdos who are going into the bathrooms. who are trying to like who are trying to. abuse that power they would have been. going into those bathrooms regardless it. was allowed for them where do the trans. women go to the bathroom in the woman's. bathroom because they were trans women.

but you just said that that's the thing. I'm saying I'm saying the trans women. who are actual trans women who are. there's no such thing as an actual trans. woman okay what I'm trying to say is. there's weirdos who are going to use the. power who would have abused the power. without those laws in place anyways they. would be kicked out is the difference. they are still going to be kicked out a. man now there's a there's a civil right. according to this doctors. if you think if you walked into the. woman's bathroom in that state right now. and you just said oh I go buy she hers. they're gonna let you stay in there. people.

you guys read two stats online of people. where you talk to one person who's a d. transitioner or you hear one thing. online and you guys think it is. the the thing about it. the thing about gender identity is it is. a self-identity so there's no test that.

someone has to take to prove that one is. now a man or a woman it's all just. self-definition but you're still going. to be in front of the court of law. no judge is going to have you win that. case but I'm sorry you're delusional. according according to priests that's. why we still have the gay Panic law in. some states if you think that's okay. I witnessed this like the other week we. um we were at a really nice restaurant. like you know where you had to dress up. to go there and then there was a trans. person and they walked in and like.

fishnets and just a bra exposing. everything and it was very vocal about. it and then uh you know some people next. to the table asked like why the person. was allowed in the restaurant they said. we can't kick them out exactly so it. does happen that's that they don't have. a dress code that should be a dress code. no matter your gender no matter your. gender you have to follow a dress code. they're able to kick her out just like. my friends yeah my friend just got out. in Vegas because she was it's a it's a. you know mascular females woman she's a.

masculine female wearing uh men's like. you know attire and they did not let her. in because she didn't fit the woman's. dress code. and she left and she just left so so. it's like but yeah I'm seeing I'm not. saying it can't happen but that's a. thing of dress code that's nothing to do. with gender yeah like even a woman. wouldn't get away with wearing that I. know but so they didn't update their. rules. women would not get away with wearing. that but the thing about this weird. transgender moment is that transgen. under identifying people can get away. with whatever the hell no I'm saying.

that they had a dress code in place they. would not be allowed if they had a dress. code saying no fish nets or explosions. unicorn they wouldn't be allowed to sit. in there yeah. just to say anything or kick them out. that's a problem on them that's a. problem getting nervous about it why do. you have to be so nervous because. about this though about dress codes for. transgender identifying people. specifically in a funeral home and the. transgender person prevailed in that. because we're in this weird moment it.

was actually parodied in Family Guy. which is that there's this guy at the. end of the bar who's a transvestite and. he's looking at porn and the bartender. comes down he says hey you you can't. look at porn at this bar he says hey no. I'm a trans I'm a transgender they said. okay then do whatever the hell you want. and that's actually how our our Supreme. Court law works and it's and it's how it. operates in the country it's it's. ridiculous so a transgender can murder. someone will be like hey you're. transgender do whatever the [ __ ] you. want there are an odd number of serial. killers who have been transgender. including the most famous let's wrap it. up Ryan let's wrap it up it's just a. historical fact but all right we gotta.

get through the super chats and stuff. let's try to get through these quick all. right Drive thanks to clean 50th man. fails to make a child support payment he. can face imprisonment by the government. takes takes control of his body even if. the woman lied about taking birth. control stole the condom or paternity. fraud should the woman not be held to. some standard as well she should okay I. think that's wrong too if they can prove. that she purposely made him impregnate. her one another I think that she should.

be charged for that also okay I'm trying. to I'm gonna try to get through these as. quick as possible sorry guys we just got. an overwhelming amount of super chats. and the conversation was just flowing so. uh we we will try to get through all of. them s o lean think of the 50 novel. concept don't have sex before you're. willing to deal with the potential. consequence of having a baby ass Olene. thank you for the profound uh Super Chat. there yo Stephen thinking man Michael is. leaving Kiko speechless controlling. words controlling Minds.

all right nice all right there we go. it's a great book you can get it now on. Amazon if you wanted to yeah it's called. speechless right it's controlling words. controlling mine's subtitle it's number. one National bestseller if you want to. go grab it uh I'm pretty sure this this. one came through as uh TTS yeah all. right we had uh James Moore thank you. for the 150 man so get so good seeing. Michael Knowles on the show any chance. of getting Matt Walsh on the show in the. future uh everyone should see the.

documentary what is a woman I agree also. everyone should watch Red Pill by Casey. J thanks for what you do Brian hey James. Moore thank you for that big 150 soup. chat uh really appreciate it man uh I'm. I'd be down to have uh Matt Walsh on I. think we're gonna try to get Brett. Cooper uh might she might come on yeah. Brett's awesome and uh I can text Walsh. now say Walsh yeah. yeah. um I'd love to have Matt Walsh on Ben. Shapiro oh there we go boom.

all right a uh James thank you so much. man yo Mark marquavius thank you for the. 50. I'm pro-life but Kiko is making a. strong argument for the other side oh my. God more existence based than argument. Kiko do you have a response to M Martin. shooting shots. sorry markovius I mean yeah do you have. a response Kiko just anything more.

existing. he's he's saying. what does that mean I don't know what. that means yeah I don't know he's he's. saying he's pro-life but. I'm Boris is he being after after. talking to you he's after you being on. this podcast he's now choice because he. thinks but not because of your arguments. he's being sarcastic yeah obviously yeah. okay he's he's roasting all right okay I. think I can't remember her names yo. zentians thank you for the uh for this. one that came through the TTS Alvin. thank you for that that came through as. a TTS appreciate you guys uh oh it's.

Jacob hey what's up Jacob yeah Jacob the. uh yeah uh yo thank you for the 20 uh. the whole chat is waiting for the oh. yeah Michael let's get this party. started I pay him way too much if you. can just throw twenty dollars at to make. that oh that's outrageous wow okay. seriously. uh Speedy D on silent thank you for the. 100 man really appreciate it let me ask. the women a few questions we can only do. one uh do you think you can do no wrong. do you actually agree with the stuff you. spout from your mouth uh are you just.

saying what every Instagram post tells. you to say also Michael is right about. everything. uh he's a sightful guy man can't even. smell my uh show of hands do you think. you can do no wrong. I think Tatum. besides besides the hyphenated name. stuff you you're doing pretty well okay. uh uh geez now they're gonna call me. simp okay yeah um rip R.I.P uh she's my. wife come on I gotta I gotta come to her. defense or fiance rather uh Dan think. for the 50.

oh are you guys here speak Russian while. you're at it. Let's Hear It Go secret language speak. it I was asking what simp means oh okay. whatever uh I said I suggested not to. bait Michael it would turn into facts. don't care about your feelings sorry. ladies you are all great looking though. that's very sweet but I'm very into. feelings I'm very Pro feelings. matter yeah I'm very emotional I'm very. you all said I'm very sensitive. yo Michael Lindley thank you for the 50.

man appreciate it dinosaur D thank you. man behold I send you out as sheep among. wolves little did I know is actually. Michael that is the wolf there is blood. and hurt snowflake egos wait he just. said he was feeling one though feeling. sweet and sensitive man so are you the. snowflake or are we I I I don't know I. think Michael's a beautiful snowfall. yeah none of you resemble any any rules. all right we have uh belief whole. podcast thank you to Michael great. points and all love and respect to the.

panel but Michael what are your thoughts. about capital punishment when weighing. the possibility of citizens being. executed by the state who are later. found to be innocent is it morally worth. the risk a quick answer on this one yeah. I think so I mean you know you want to. be careful about it you don't want to be. Reckless and just chopping everybody's. head off but it's it's important for. deterrence and for uh and obviously for. Retribution and also for rehabilitation. because hanging concentrates the mind so. you got to take these risks but you want. to minimize that risk.

wait Eric from the whole life isn't. it more of a punishment than just being. yeah having a miserable yeah it's. definitely a more significant punishment. but some some crimes call for. significant punishments like for. instance like those serial killers like. Ed Gein Alexander just put them like in. the bottom to rock away yeah and like. you know water dripping on them yeah you. don't want to torture them you know you. know because that's illegal that's. crueling isn't illegal but torturing as. well yeah you know what you don't want. to just like torture them you just want.

to you just want Justice. sometimes a head on a pike is you know. just Justice that's how you torture them. first all right CW hey thank you for the. 200 that came through as a TTS thank you. man Philip this also came through thank. you guys so much for all the support. tonight uh we have uh Aaron Martinez. easy Aaron Martin easy okay. 50. thank you man what do you think. about using social programs such as. Medicare for all in the robust social. safety. reduce abortions uh the girls are. seething okay reducing the financial.

intent incentives to board also I'd ask. for an asteroid but would rather have a. Towelie I don't know if I have a tally. but I'll give you the asteroid uh here. actually I'll give you a different. asteroid how about that boom thank you. man appreciate it. um really quick on on Medicare yeah the. short version is asking well if you have. sort of socialist Healthcare policies uh. then why don't you have fewer abortions. and that's not true you actually end up. with an incentive for more abortions. that's what you saw in communist China. and and just for more killing the. citizens generally that's what you're. seeing in Canada right now because they.

can't afford to take care of old people. so they just kill them all right we have. Joseph Macias thank you for the 50 man. what's the girl in the Blue's Instagram. uh I just love her common sense that she. spoke earlier what's your Instagram I'm. assuming it's linked right isn't it edge. of Paradise by the way she's verified so. she's legit. girl in blue sorry sorry guys she's. taken all right the wolf 50 Catholicism. is Christianity you genius I was gonna.

let that slide but that's correct yeah. thank you Alvin. um markovius Martin thank you for the 50. IQ challenge Kiko you're like two. millimeters away from being a cycle what. does that mean uh tell us how peripheral. peripheral vision is overrated hello. because you could just like turn your. head and like. so like why do we need it for every. little vision like just turn your head. okay right Martin how about you spend. another [ __ ] 300 tonight can you.

refer to him as marquavius please mark. waves how about you spend the rest of. your paycheck from Burger King tonight. on here. well speaking of speaking of Martin. um uh marquavius uh Sam Actually Sam can. you read this oh here we go oh Sam with. these crazy opinions you're dangerously. close to losing your seat on the g600. I've told you I I've told them to stop. fooling the jet. by the way did he slide into your DMs. after last show he offered the Jet right.

eye right I don't remember I don't. remember I don't I don't know I'd get so. many children on the last show he he I. don't know I remember if he went into my. DMs there's too many how many DMS did. you guys get I don't know like a lot. like well for usually how many like 50. what about you like 20. Tatum. you got a lot for sure Tatum no I'm only. 12. oh. oh that's so specific like for sure no.

it's not 12. it was a Baker's Dozen 13. yes okay yo Kendall Brown thank you for. the 50 Kiko you were made in God's image. in the fact that you were able to reason. and have an innate sense of morality. shows God's signature on you as his. creation uh I hope that God continues to. pour out love and mercy on your day you. say God I say big bang I mean come on. you know the Big Bang was discovered by. a Catholic priest named father George. Lamas. I don't care you just said you believed.

in it so I'm telling you what the guy. who discovered I don't even know what. the really big thing is I just know I. don't believe in a God that's all right. you believe in the Big Bang and the guy. who discovered it I believe in the. opposite of God if that's what it is. before the Big Bang you believe in Satan. yeah or just absolutely absence of the. absence of God anything there we go I. believe someone's probably correct but. there's a horror power out there but I. don't know who's correct confirmed I've. seen I've seen so many people are. clearly wrong in a lot of parts so I. mean I don't know I'm here to tell you. I'd rather work out than go to church or. something like I'd rather do something. more productive.

uh well you just said I don't know who's. correct and I'm I'm going to tell you. the 100 certainty I am completely. corrected I'm not even trying to. disrespect you I'm not correct about not. even trying to distract you but like. usually what I say is like I don't know. what I believe in but I just know the. Catholics have it wrong that's usually. what I want did you ever wonder like why. you're so drawn after 11 years of. Catholic school I saw a lot more. negatives than I thought it seems to me. sometimes there's like teenagers say. this they're like hey man you know the. opposite of Love isn't hate it's.

indifference and so right now you hate. the church I don't hate the church the. thing I know is totally wrong and I have. all these bad experiences and it's. abusing I never said the word hate. though I just said I don't describe that. conduced toward hatred I don't hate. everyone that's wrong I just think. they're wrong you said the church is. abusive and people have all these bad I. don't even think I use the word abusive. I just said I didn't like it I said they. were wrong by the Catholic church I said. there's pedophiles in the Catholic. church and that people you know were. abused by. itself. I'm very careful with my terms we can.

check the tape but in any case I just. wonder if the fact that you're not. indifferent but you actually have this. seeming antipathy for the church maybe. points to this truth that the opposite. of love is not always Kiko confirm and. deny are you the Antichrist. confirm or deny. I think I'm allowed to give out that. information oh. okay it's very tricky um by the way. Michael so you said that you know that. you're right yes that's your.

you know as a throwback to your. conversation with Bronte that that also. happens to be your identity that is my. self-identity and I would I would ask. that everybody respects it but I think. you all do it what's your identity that. I am correct about this question in. particular. but can you affirm his identity as being. correct on. everything we spoke about today I know. he's a Catholic he's correct but he's a. Catholic if I told you right now I'm a. woman you would affirm that identity.

unless you don't believe in transgender. I do believe in it but you haven't. uh everything's telling me transgender. women need to prove to you that they are. the sex and gender that they know in. their heart that they are they don't. have to prove it to me but I don't have. to like believe it oh you see you don't. believe in transgenderism okay what's. wrong with the fact she doesn't really. something you say no no it's like I. think it's a good example exactly how I. just said I don't believe that people. who think they're a cat or a cyclops or. whatever you said a unicorn is a person.

either I feel like there's judgment. calls that always you make now do I. think I have the right because I don't. think that you're a woman that I need to. tell you to stop being a woman no I. don't give a [ __ ] what you choose to do. from that that's my whole point though. is even if I don't believe it or I don't. agree with it I have the yeah I have no. that's not what I said either well you. know what you just said you don't you. don't give a dog that's why there's. certain things that's why I even said. earlier even with these gender-neutral. bathrooms you're not gonna get away with. walking into a woman's bathroom like. that just I'm probably not I mean I.

might get away with it because they. might want me there but okay. so we just have a few more we have a few. in stream labs and then we have this. last one here on YouTube the base. capitalist thing to the 50. I love you. Michael and Brian Kiko's last cause 96. biologists believe that personhood. starts at the moment of conception so. it's not just religion ladies science. agrees with us I'm just gonna have to. get through these just um purified. hip-hop podcast thank you for 50. Michael Knowles F's on the rails is that. a good thing like you're off the road or.

is it like ifs on the race. he has an apostrophe there I feel like. that was intentional and it's not off. the rails yo Eric can you pull up the. streamlabs tab and I'll just pound these. out in five minutes 1107. all right oh man oh Jesus Christ. um. I'll be here all night get me a fat. stogies. 15 minutes Ben.

ITA up the price all night I got all the. time in the world yeah. okay okay cool let's go I have to go eat. I know if we have food here I would go. for two more hours. we've been here five hours. let's just get through these why not why. not. okay so um let's start from the top and. then we'll work our way down all right.

so we have Eric oh this is different. than mine. we need to figure out a better way to do. this hold on okay so are you sure this. is from the top Eric. I have something from send the meteor. well I'll just do the ones that are on. screen then Eric Hansen thing oh you. need to uh can you hit the Refresh on. this screen that's what's wrong. hit uh F5 on this. Good Times yo send the meteor uh how.

would Kiko like to be judged for not. wanting wait is this the same oh yeah. okay how would Kiko like to be judged. for not wanting to sleep with a manly. looking lesbian second how sad is it. that these girls don't realize that. they're in the path of misery bring the. back in 10 I should have put the minimum. 100 I should put the minimum at 100 but. uh they will regret it when their DMS. are empty. okay my DMs are way less than enough. yeah they've never been don't worry. about me what are you saying someday it. might be empty I don't think that he's. gonna come no personally I don't that's.

what I'm saying all right not maybe not. for you uh if anybody is not yeah scroll. scroll down Eric I'm gonna do the down. Mingo one all right we have again that. was me women were happier before. entering the workforce equality made. them work corporations hate you they. want you earning the money not on. maternity or raising kids with sense. case in point this panel think about. these topics uh less than a minute okay. thank you man Thomas the poet uh ladies. men and women view sex differently men. give love to get sex and women give. sex to get love also about love please.

remember we accept the love we think we. deserve finally love you Sam love you. Sam and Tatum it's from Perks of Being a. Wallflower. oh wait can you guys uh do that no that. was mine guys. Eric can you pull that back up for me. please all right we have a crispy tofu. here uh oh Jesus Christ okay uh when I.

was graped I couldn't go near the city. where it happened from when it happened. three years after it happened I couldn't. be near any army tent uniform I was. scared to see my Grapist okay definitely. couldn't have had the baby if I got. pregnant scroll down a little bit um. Eric just will move that one off screen. just because it's probably TOS uh an. ashamed true thanks for the 50. atheism. is religion to believe there's no God. takes Faith why should the baby be. murdered for the sins of the father. please explain why we should kill the. poor kids if the parents are drug.

addicts or not financially stable let. them have it Michael uh really quick. Michael if you want to no you just you. just let it rip man that was totally. true okay Eric can you pull that back up. totally agree. all right we have uh Timbo Slice hey. thank you man appreciate it my buddy. Miggy and I are obsessed with the Pod. Brian thank you man we discussed it. every day with Michael's confidence if. he was running through 30 foes he would. be unstoppable could take over the world. two of my favorite content creators in. one spot Michael she would reveal.

we we've poached Michael from the daily. wire it's this is mine so Michael's my. my new co-host yeah that's right just. kidding just kidding Shapiro just made. fun of me one too many times. and now I'm now yes yes. um and is that is that libel. let's not become an expert in it am I. going to get a cease synthesis from the. daily life okay. um uh pull it back up Erica. thank you Timbo though uh Michael trolls. thank you for the 50 you can be socially.

conservative and fiscally liberal just. like you can be street smart and bad at. math okay thank you man Eric Hansen with. the 50 met my wife at 21 dated nine days. before six month engagement we're both. virgins married for 15 years now with. four kids and one on the way congrats. man it can be done if you get your life. and mindset in the right place. congratulations there. you say it can't be done Kiko you're. laughing it happened I I never anything. could be done there's a lot of things. that could be done oh the driver all.

right we'll just get an Uber oh we got. to cancel whoa okay. you get an Uber that's a wrap. it's still good good to go you sure okay. okay it should only be a few more. minutes here okay I don't have an order. um please stop saying that okay we have. uh Derek Mannix. thank you for the 50. welcome to Madness. Michael love your content hold on. Victoria hold on welcome to Madness. Michael love your content what qualities. did you value most when dating early in. life as well ask these girls to name. three countries okay we can do that. really quick go Kiko three countries go.

wait what am I doing name three. countries go name three countries United. States Japan China like 200 countries. yeah what is the point of that Canada. like Canada America Mexico what do you. want to do then we can go Costa Rica. where do you want it Brazil I. just said Japan Russia and China well. done okay pull it back up Eric.

yo Davon Jackson thank you for the 100. not to get too political but for Michael. and Brian would you rather date the. oldest woman in the world or the best. looking trans woman in the world didn't. we did we already do this yeah. he's trying to get me and Michael to. report too yeah I'm gonna store them out. what do you mean it would be the Train. shut the [ __ ] up. do I have to. that's cool. did you tell such a fact Michael you're. projecting right now seriously. cool.

okay you didn't even hear how I would. answer that disavow. I didn't need to all right uh go ahead. pull it back up no veteran contractor. thinking Man 42 year old manho body. count over 150 non-flated I married a. woman with a BC of one. um Ben had to crack into one of them. well one of the uh seltzers a drink up. friend drink up. uh 42 year old retired manhole body. count over 150 high value man wants a.

woman who has been ran through oh no. high value man wants a woman who's been. ran through make wise decisions now or. suffer later your hookups do corrupt. your brain. facts thank you veteran contractor uh I. believe he does drywall okay and you. guys would both know because he has both. had her faces it would crack your brain. yeah did I say all sin and vice corrupt. your brain. um. as a man of God as a man of God okay. since when yeah.

it's Michael has he's convinced me to. marry he's he's brought me over okay. Deus Holt um 10 years okay so. um okay can you bring it yeah. do we have some coming through God uh. Eric can you pull up the I'll get those. later can you pull back up the uh. uh okay we had uh. where is it wait okay Johan thank you oh. no Johan thank you for the 20 Mr Casey. thinking of the 50 yo Brian gonna put.

you on the spot haha but you have to. pick which girl at the table is your. hookup preference. hey. he's got a wife yeah excuse me uh how. dare you which which girl at the table. is my hookup preference. hopefully his wife honestly Tatum. honestly Tatum you you asked you're. putting me on the spot why do you think. he gave me the ring in the first place. is is that what I'm doing.

that's me I've been noticing it all. night yeah. I know of the last podcast I was reading. I was like Brian's a simple potato. do you think become a Munch potato. what are you doing after the show. disavow. disavow but uh. [Music].

in any case. um okay we have um what's it called but. no I would not is the chat shipping me. and Tatum. you're letting it okay you're letting it. happen I'm starving actually thank you. Edward. he doesn't feed us here yo Davon Jackson. I need to start getting pizza for. everyone before the shows um okay Davon. Jackson thank you for the 50. this type.

of chicken is is exactly why Brian. doesn't pay for women on first dates. LMAO. what type of chicks. I'm sorry to disappoint you once again. Michael can you explain to him that he. is such a walking contradiction yeah. he's never gonna find the woman. honest smartest woman who's gonna pay. the bills and rub his feet and go to. work.

and you've got a and you've got a great. fiance over here sorry and you should. pay for the meal. I don't know it's basic stuff Tatum are. you seeing anybody right now no so under. those circumstances I would pay and also. she's in college but the the issue is I. guess my issue with paying. um and I'll be brief on this well yeah. my issue with paying is it's it's me. adhering to my traditional or men's. traditional gender roles but hold on. Victoria. the what's happening in the dating. landscape and I've already mentioned.

this is that when you first go on a date. with someone you have to assume that. they're dating other people more likely. than not they're sleeping with other. people so to me it's just I don't want. to pay for a girl on a date and then. she's. she hooked up with a guy last night she. had sex with another guy last night. she's got three other dates lined up I. don't want to.

if you show this girl like this nice. attention you pay for a meal maybe. she'll actually see that you're a good. guy and want to be with you don't you. want to be the change that you want to. see yeah. Sam here's why here's why Sam is. if I know if I go on a date with a girl. or even before I find out that she's. dating another guy she's hooking up with. another guy I don't want that's not a. girl I even want to pursue to begin with.

so there won't even be a first date so I. just don't even want to entertain that. option come properly single come. properly single that's my stance how. hard is it before the date is initiated. right like say you meet them in person. and dating up whatever obviously you're. in talk you're gonna exchange some words. before this day happens how hard is it. to send the message are you talking to. anybody else are you I don't see anybody. else I do so and do they say yes well. the well they do why are you pursuing. women who are doing things that you. don't want them to do.

so I do ask that question if I find out. that they are I'm like well hey I'm more. we want different things so but also you. also in the dating landscape people lie. so so you're so like how he was going on. with her he was assuming everyone's a. liar yeah just a quick so the reason why. you don't want these girls who are like. singing element why it's because they're. like with other men right they're yeah. yeah so would you.

date someone who does porn or only fans. no no I would not the I I do make one. exception and. is your two last week excuse me excuse. me well no I've I've actually never even. gone on a date with a girl who does only. fans but. could I. ideally. certainly. I apologize Michael. close my ears yeah would I date a girl.

who does solo content on only fans. Haram that's her I I would however it's. not ideal I wouldn't. no but no I've never dated a girl who. does only fans maybe you don't know but. are you saying I'm saying I'm. potentially open I'm open to it I've. never done it are you saying you would. date a girl who did only fans but then. realize that's a bad thing to do and it. doesn't do it anymore are you saying you. would date a girl who actively is doing. only things.

yes I would I would wow because that's a. big distinction but you wouldn't pay for. it so like we once said walking she has. to do solo cone she has to do solo. content if she ever did any BG no if she. does be a boy girl so I'm saying like. could she do girl girl. dildo just not with a real one.

I suppose so however we all have our. standards I'm saying I would I'm saying. I would but it's not okay so just to be. clear I've never dated a girl who's done. the only fans. it's but it's not a total deal breaker. however if put putting two girls. together one that doesn't have only fans. and one that does I'm gonna go with a. girl that doesn't have only kids however. Tatum we can make a lot of money. together oh okay okay.

she doesn't have anyone she's not. hooking up with anyone but you assume. she's lying and then you don't pay for. her date and then she thinks you're an. [ __ ] and doesn't go on the second. date but she's like the girl that you've. always wanted. but you just [ __ ] up your chance hold. on can you repeat that just so what if. you go on a date with a girl and the. girl doesn't have anyone that she's. saying and she's not hooking up with.

anyone but you assume she's lying and. then you don't pay for her date and then. she assumes that you're just you know an. [ __ ] a jerk and doesn't go on a. second date with you but you just missed. out on a girl that you would have wanted. and she doesn't have only fans no okay. you screwed up basically is what she's. saying. but I look. here's the thing one if she's not dating. other people I'm gonna kind of try to.

suss that out also you know it comes it. also comes down to like earnings. differentials and earnings so if she's a. litigation attorney. I'm sorry you're making 200k a year I'm. I don't feel obliged in those. circumstances are the gender roles that. you are you. go first. women why why do women let's go first. when you're the one who's supposed to. ask us a baby yeah.

you're supposed to prove yourself to me. that's the whole thing. and throughout the place the man's. always been the leader yeah but. sure however you. you guys want to treat feminism and. equality like a buffet you want to pick. and choose that which hold on yeah you. want to pick and choose the things that. benefit you and then you want to. disregard perhaps the equality which.

does not come as a benefit to you. because I believe well okay you want oh. well I believe in gender equality but I. like it when guys pay and I like it when. they lead and I like it when they. initiate and I like them when they. adhere to their traditional gender roles. however I want to be promiscuous I want. to sleep around are you a virgin no I'm. saying the girl wouldn't it's not right. okay so if you're a virgin then yeah. it's rightful for you to expect someone. else to be a virgin on your date if. you're not a virgin why can you expect. to have a version what Brian is saying. is that yeah you're advancing the.

feminist idea that men and women are. exactly the same and they have to have. the same expectations but what Brian is. saying is here no no I'm not a feminist. men and women have different. expectations there are different. thresholds for their different kinds of. behaviors and as a result of that there. are also different privileges that women. get so men are going to open the door. they're going to pay for the tab they're. going to take more responsibility for. certain problems they're going to I. don't know kill the spider or whatever. and but also women are going to have. certain expectations that men either do. not have or will. be treated with less culpability see but.

what I'm saying is as times have changed. yes I see what he's saying with the. feminism like we want to take to take. but things have also changed for men. like the traditional thing for a man has. also changed which comes back to why. sales podcast all the time is why people. just need to date people in their realm. you know if I'm I find myself not fully. non-traditional but like. semi-traditional so my boyfriend also is. pretty semi-traditional should I go date. someone who's very traditional or not. traditional at all probably not and vice. versa just find somebody who you know. there's someone's other half out there.

for them just let them find it but but I. feel like there's there is still. categories in it though like overall. like you know it's not like how he said. everything's not black and white like a. lot of things are black and white but a. lot of people do fall in the middle of. those things and find somebody else you. know some like modern person and you're. not traditional at all and so you find. this guy who's super modern and. everything and you're off doing only. fans and he's off he's got like two. boyfriends and you know you both like.

living in a polycule and somewhere even. though you found your same level or. category or match or whatever that's. still not a great way to live like. wouldn't it be better. they're happy though they're probably I. think they're not you they're thrilled I. bet you they're true they're either. living their best that's why but like. like relationships polygamy has always. been a thing like politics and. boyfriends too oh yeah the multiple. wives one at a time one at a time all. that stuff so it's like that's it's. something we've already seen throughout.

history go ahead Sam no I was just. saying I agree with Kiko and that. they're living their best life for them. and maybe for you that's not what you. want because you don't want three. boyfriends but for someone else they do. what if they're not living their best. life though what if their life is not. how why is that you to decide yeah how. is that you're not just asking if they. are they're not and if that's what. they're choosing to do so like that can. people make choices that are bad for. them. yeah but they don't feel like that's bad. for them and they're happy then why do. we I'm saying if people make choices. that are bad for them that will probably. make why do we know what's good and bad.

like the thing well it's it's sort of is. self-referential at a certain point if. we're saying if if they're making these. bad choices those bad choices by. definition are going to make them less. happy than if they made good choices and. people obviously do make bad choices all. the time so if people are making lots of. bad choices don't you think that instead. of just saying hey just find other. people who want to make bad choices you. might say hey how about you find out why. do you why do you understand yeah that. is. good guys.

I thought we agreed that some things are. objectively good and some things are. objective. I'll take it out the door there's no bad. and good and we all live on this little. loopy Spectrum. so it's. it's not. not better to make a pie for the lady. down the street then to kick the baby no. it's because I'm doing work either way. I'm. so sorry I have to go.

um. uh if you want while we write you're. free to if you want to just excuse. yourself that's totally fine but thank. you so much for coming guys check out. her band edge of what is it again edge. of paradise check out her band okay. we'll we'll rate answers rap to almost. everybody here pretty soon. uh let me get through these last few and. just the last thing on just to answer.

your thing about the paying thing I. guess it's just I don't. if if more people moved in a more. traditional way I would have no issue. adhering to traditional genders and. paying but I don't want to be the sucker. because I've heard a lot of stories and. for example this is a example I often. give I don't want to go on a date with a. girl. be go for a dinner date I don't want to. pay for her food and then she gets a. doggy bag to go she gives me a ass out. hug at the end of the date she takes. that doggy bag to the guy who she's.

sleeping with who by the way never had. to pay for anything because he's just. really attractive and he's a Chad and. just whatever give gives him the food in. which I paid for the leftovers he eats. the food and then he hooks up with her I. that so it's transactional you're. expecting to have sex no that's not what. I said I just don't feel like a circle. right now. like if you were like if I feel like if.

you were like this like big Macho. masking man whatever [ __ ] wouldn't be. playing you like that they wouldn't even. be able to play you like I I'm telling. you there's certain things they know. what I'm saying there's a certain type. of man that you wouldn't even try to. play even him. I wouldn't go on a date with him and. like oh yeah I'm gonna call him out of. his money thank you. it's not even. everything is I don't really care if a. man's paying for me on a date I'll pay. for myself on the day I don't give a. [ __ ] but I'm saying is either with Kiko.

that you're a walking contradiction for. the type of energy you want in the type. of energy you put out yeah I'm not. though. it's not a walking contradiction he's. all like straightforward no yeah okay at. least. Michael knows what he wants. keep going lady but so okay. so every every guy takes else. really attractive guys take elves yes. even really attractive guys will take.

else more more other else. or some men take an l and they step. their cookies up so they don't get no. damn can you just move that mic on the. ground please just put. them it's like you know was it fool me. once shame on you. Mr Davis is here. at least yeah so rude Jasmine yeah here. we go now we have an actual I've got a. chat what you're trying to say is you. just don't want to be closer to the. relationship right yeah what's that you.

just don't want to be a [ __ ] in the. relationship is that right yeah I don't. want to feel like a sucker you know and. there here's the thing there's this term. called foodie calls so girls will have a. dude in their phone as like Uber or ride. or food and yeah I don't they actually. did a study in California guys do food. guys can't do foodie colors hold on so. California at the California University. I'm actually gonna get the professor on. who did the study found like 33 to 60 I.

forget the exact number but they studied. this phenomenon of food he calls where. basically women will go out on dates in. order to just with no romantic interest. just to get a free meal okay. robbery but actually you need to like. even with like 10 people and out of 10. people three people it's like 32 percent. we get the stats hold on Eric can you in. the other tab look up the girl who went. on six days of six dates a week in New.

York to save on grocery bills please. there's this news article. is doing what she was saying before she. left the girl about how when you drive a. car there's a chance you're gonna get. yes when you go on dates there's a. chance that you might get played but. you're taking that risk no matter what. because you're going on dates you're. going you're putting yourself out there. here it doesn't you're you're playing. like I'm a little victim so I don't want. to get I don't have to pay for the date. so I'm being vigilant I'm not I'm not. but shouldn't you be able to discern to. some degree how these women are like are.

they 304s you know yeah. like right or are they virtuous women. you shouldn't be able to tell that even. before you go on the date it's you you. can but like some of some of these girls. like the way. hold on there are some very unassuming. women whoa they're honking at us not. well there's just like some subtle yeah. like there's some women that you would. never think it they can be very demure. or very reserved but like and we've had.

we've had one girl on this panel she was. 19. super shy very quiet very calm you. would have never guessed taken the. sheets. no she's she her body count was like 33. at 19. is that what the girl I was on. with you it might have been a different. girl 19 years old 33 body count. didn't seem like very kind of shy very. quiet no indicators like I would have. assumed like she was not yeah like they. meet a guy I think he's very sweet.

whatever sure. is like oh I might lose my money she. might go give my her leftovers. yeah hopefully I come out of this like. alive and hopefully the public enough. please hopefully there's enough people. here one sec Eric can you pull that back. up we did actually find this article for. the Michael Knowles show this is one of. the fake article articles we did on one. Friday oh that's right this was a true. story yeah so women woman went on six.

dates a week to save on food I didn't. buy groceries for two years she made. like this Tick Tock Eric can you scroll. down just a little bit can you imagine. how value her time has though yeah. how many [ __ ] do you think are doing. this yeah just like buy some ramen. noodles it's an outlier. okay so she says hold on what is capping. is it what oh okay it's like oh like. when you're like No Cap no cap for real.

yeah okay. so okay but between 2016 and 2018 I. didn't buy groceries once probably saved. about 150 air clicks Seymour. you don't have to play the video she's. 100 what happened yeah. thank you. can you pull it back up already using. the word goodies oh yeah just probably. saved about 150 a week and like she's.

I'm not trying to be mean to her she's. like an average looking girl she's not. particularly she's not particularly. remarkable in terms of her appearance. and she's able to pull this off so to me. I I don't want to feel like a sucker. it's not about I you mentioned oh so she. owes you sex no I don't view it that way. at all I just want to not feel bad about. making an investment and her like being. manipulative and that would make me feel. bad that would make me would you be able. to pay like 50 50 you guys split it that.

way I wouldn't expect it. but I would pay for my. mind. we'll let Brian do that yeah. if if me and Tatum go on a date. um I want her home at 11. you know. uh in and out I got you. yeah you want a milkshake I got you it's. a very wholesome day what flavor do you.

guys I love it I don't know yeah what. flavor I go for chocolate I. I drink it up okay then why do you go on. a date. no Ryan I think. your Biz needs to be better this is not. okay my wife this is the wrist there is. you're trying your wrist is just off oh. it's like Dandridge is dead see but.

that's convenient for women to say. because women don't need game or Riz you. just show up I mean if they want an. actual relationship they need Gamers. doesn't the man. oh sorry sorry no it doesn't the man's. Riz sort of set the tone for like all of. the but if she's not charismatic back. are you still gonna talk to her if she's. like a ah yes my name is. I do like sunsets and walking on the.

damage like you gotta talk back it goes. both ways if she's if she sounds like a. weirdo You're Gonna Keep talking to her. no I just mean I'm I just mean aren't. women kind of impressionable I guess is. what I'm saying yes yes but I think it. goes both ways. yeah yeah more and more in one way than. another but but I agree it goes both. ways that's true Tatum get off your. phone I'm sorry she's texting her other. boyfriends. nice takeout tonight. I'll bring you the leftovers babe don't.

worry. I'm playing this pool so good. stop it. get some help. laughs. this is dunk on pry now. you're correcting on my toxic. masculinity I know I like Michael. oh yeah I'm on the podcast more okay oh. wow. no it's I like getting in these I'm glad.

that we have a a positive reception for. you Michael because I wasn't sure maybe. I thought you know you are a genocidal. Mania I am the genocidal Maniac so I was. concerned but these ladies can see. beyond that you know it's sometimes it's. like men are for Mars Women Are from. Venus you don't need to agree on every. it's like sometimes the man loves. genocide sometimes the women you know. they like abortion hamburgers or. whatever yeah. I mean genocide. by the way since since uh Ben here Ben.

that's right yeah. those are two crazy things since you're. joining the panel here uh just uh do you. want to just introduce yourself to the. audience I don't think you really got a. chance I'm Ben Davies I'm the producer. of the Michael Knoll show and you can. also check me out on cream of the crop. on pureflix streaming now yeah launched. this week this is the other thing you. know so Ben is a pretty well-known actor. in especially in like Christian movies. and I didn't believe this because I. don't really watch Christian movies but. I was one time I was on my stream and Mr.

Davies here walks in the background and. then someone in my stream was just like. is that my favorite actor Ben Davies I. was like I don't but it was his mother. who said that it was a good cry we want. to see the acting happen I'm not unless. I get paid you know yeah I do have to. get cash I would ask Brian but he. doesn't so. actually. he'll get you next time. uh what's your relationship status I'm. married oh with kids same as Michael oh.

congratulations I've been married for. eight years now eight years how are you. okay cool cool all right let me do a. couple of these chats here we have Davon. Jackson if you can pull that back up uh. the stream live stream stream Labs tab. yo we got uh 50 here thank you Dave on. Chad gets to hit it for free and these. other losers get the privilege of taking. her on dates laughing my ass off kind of.

related to what we were just talking. about I mean yeah that's one of the. reasons why like Eisen want to be made. out to be suckers is like and you know. what's funny like think of like a. celebrity. who would you have uh maybe all of you. can tell me do you have a celebrity. crime. yeah. um Tim would you want. the Charlemagne well you maybe. what you want is not the right question. would you require Timothy chalamet to.

pay for you or is he of such a high. enough status that you would be willing. to accept that dude is making so much. money I'd be like crazy what. of course he should pay he's like so. he's the thing though do you do you know. celebrities have you spent time with. celebrities some so you you may or may. not have noticed celebrities are. extremely weird but like they'll they. won't shower sometimes for periods like. they they do really weird things so I.

wouldn't be surprised you out on a date. with a celebrity and he intentionally. just doesn't pay do you still go on. another day with them. [Music]. sorry you're good. do I go on another day with him if he. doesn't pay for the first one yeah if he. intends pay for the second one well I. was also I don't I don't think I like I. personally don't care if the guy pays. like I literally said that multiple. times I don't either I just was saying I.

think it's a contradiction for Brian to. say he won't pay for the type of person. he is well what type of person am I. traditional a guy with Traditional. Values am I. what if I'm just an egalitarian that's. the worst of all you know I actually. like though I like the impulse for a. woman to to want to pay or at the very. least to offer to pay because it's a.

sense of hey we're navigating this weird. modern world where everything's screwed. up and nothing settled and then when the. man says no I'll pay it would be nice if. the woman like should I go cool and then. I would say yeah I got ice cream. but then the man still shouldn't let you. play for the ice cream. nice he should pay for everything okay. nice I think nice I am taking some L's. tonight. yeah. good times okay we have uh these last.

three here or last two uh on stream Labs. then we have to go back to YouTube okay. dank naked thank you for the 50 man. scuffed scuffed intro technical. difficulties from the start glad the. show is still the same thank you Bryce. appreciate it Alvin Sam thank you for. the 50. Brian and Michael would you. smash the hottest trans woman in the. world yeah we already did that one or. did we answer this is like this is the. new philosophical test you know it's. like the train analogy the trolley. trolley dilemma you know yeah would you.

would you smash the uh sure transvestite. I don't know what is this no would you. rather sleep with the oldest woman in. the world we're talking like what like. 112 or something by now this question or. the hottest trans those are my two. choices then I would get married to the. oldest woman in the world and then you. know do what married couples do. all right I think that's it for the. those ones oh and then we have.

um. well let me let me get the Super Chat. ones did we do this one. yeah did we read this one yep are you. sure yeah yeah we did okay. thank you for the F50 appreciate it uh. Looney boy thank you for the 50. Brian. got made of made fun of for looking like. he sells Bibles now we have full-blown. Bible study keep doing the Lord's work.

gentlemen oh the drop follow video will. react to that really quick protect Kiko. she's a good sport keep selling those. Bibles I got you man I I apparently. according to Drew afualo I am a Bible. salesman we'll pull up that video here. in a sec ocj uh thank you for the 50. bombshell in blue can we clone you a rip. she left you definitely have a very. attractive mindset and Views yeah yeah. okay uh rare to find that in women. nowadays hey OC thank you man I.

appreciate it uh I can coordinate a. little rendezvous with Kiko if you'd. like uh drive thank you for the merci. beaucoupler Canadian the hundred Mr. Knowles uh mgtow men going their own way. within the church what do you think and. why also red pill Pua Etc I feel there. is a growing number sure is that is that. a thing in the church men going their. own way I mean no except in the sense. that you can be a single person and. consecrate that to God or you can be a. priest or a nun or a you know what do.

you mean going their own way like not. dating not getting married so you can. you can do that but you need to have. some kind of vocation so either you need. to either you need to marry God or you. need to marry a lady. um there's no there's no just like Do. Your Own Thing Man you know you do you. that's not that's not allowed in the. church so if people are doing it it's. because they're not well categorized. to be alone. well no you're with if you're with God. you know I mean if you're like or if you. join a religious order or something like.

that yeah. if you don't have a wife and kids or. husband and kids you have to be a nunner. priest or you're just gonna have a kind. of consecrated single Hood even as a. layperson but it would it would have to. be uh What is marriage is is an analogy. it's a symbol of Christ so what makes up. them being a person that's. a Catholic that's single versus a. Catholic that's devoted into their own. reli like whatever you just said what. makes a difference between the two well. difference would be the the object of of.

your love and and uh so if they just. think about it if they just think that. their love is for God then they're fine. if they don't think about their living. I'm really trying to learn right now I'm. happy to teach you faith without works. is dead so you you know the tree by its. fruit and uh one good way to understand. love would be that love is willing the. good of the other so we talk a lot now. about self-love and how it's just so. important to love yourself and that is. the path to Absolute Madness you you. want to have a love and respect for. yourself that's proper to you because. obviously you can't love your neighbor.

as yourself you hate yourself I'm sorry. that was just such a reliable thing. what's the Wild's favorite I don't I. don't know what's self-love is leading. to Madness yeah it's just narcissism is. what it really mostly is so a statement. that like that just sounds No I guess. it's not yours it wouldn't be. narcissistic but it's just. it just leads to me I don't know how. else to describe it if you because a man. wrapped up in himself makes a very small. package indeed So you you're you need to. direct your love towards someone else. and ultimately all of that love is.

pointed to its source and Summit who is. God and so that doesn't mean you can't. do that alone you you no you can do that. alone plenty of people are selling a. woman God is not a woman God is a man. God is a man and you should respect his. pronouns. I believe God's A Woman Eric did you say. we have just one more in stream labs. one more that came through I think Kiko. after you after you name the 200. countries could you name the 12. continents. I think there are 195 countries you rode.

scholar 100 oh well okay. excuse me let's do the twitch then the. Drew clip and then let's wrap go ahead. Eric. um guys pull up a twitch tab go to. twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow if.

you have Amazon Prime you can link it to. Twitch and you can sub every month. totally free it's a quick free easy way. to support the show so if you have a. twitch Prime Amazon Prime sub drop a. swan drop us a follow twitch.tv slash. whatever link is in the description Eric. can you go ahead and pull up that Drew a. follow I'm sorry I can't pronounce her. name. um pull up that clip I want uh to get uh. the panel on Michael's uh take on this. go ahead. so you think you're Italian yeah.

I think I'm gorgeous don't come perfect. listen don't take this the wrong way. you're not explain on me you're you're. not a 10. okay that's just your opinion. all right first of all every time I feel. like we Stamp Out a roach okay the white. man with a podcast like this it. contributes literally thing up uh so he. or she Drew oh. um said every time we Stamp Out a what. was it a roach a cockroach AKA a white.

man with a podcast now which is just. redundant by the way right to all white. men in America today have a podcast I. think are there any men who don't it's. like a troll it's a good joke. like our voices are being silenced let's. put them back out we gotta we gotta. reinforce it so so basically she she was. reacting to a clip from our podcast we. have a segment actually perhaps we. should do it before we rap where we ask. everyone to rate themselves on the scale. of one to ten in terms in terms of their. physical appearance and the girl said. she was a 10 and.

said she's not I said she wasn't. but that's your opinion. But but so in any case she's reacting to. you know I'm perhaps a bit blunt or rude. in me saying hey look I don't I don't. um. she identifies as a 10 and I do not. subscribe to her self-assessment. um. but I guess the troubling statement that.

I found there was she says uh. cockroach another cockroach or what did. she say we stamped out another cockroach. AKA a white man yeah with a podcast now. I think if you were to replace white man. with any other group. that would be a or at least viewed from. someone who's oh of course as a very. Troublesome State white people are the. only race that you're not only permitted. to disparage but actually encourage to. disparage and you can legally.

discriminate against and then men are. the sex that you're allowed to publicly. disparage encouraged to do so can. discriminate because they those two. white people as a race and men as a sex. whatever chromosomes whatever makes you. feel most comfortable putting it have. yes you guys can face discrimination but. there's no Prejudice lying in between it. so honestly it's just words it's just. words she's called white people. cockroaches okay and I you want to know.

what I've been called my people have. been called unless I would rather you. have that one statement you get called. all those terrible things do you I was. call I got a message yesterday saying. he's gonna Burn Me Alive like the [ __ ]. I am so yes I do all a day constantly. day in day out that's the difference. your life disavow no it's not because. because so you get a message from a guy. online right every public person gets. all these mean really nasty messages but. in the culture the the only uh racially. disparaging message that anyone could.

hear in movies and TV and music is. against white people you would never. hear it against anything you wouldn't. because it's been in the movie. one example I heard my white teacher. read the hard n word. it was Huckleberry Finn yeah. there's something wrong with these these. words what you're saying is because. there's no you guys didn't face the. prejudice and discrimination for all. those years backing behind it does it.

make it as basically does it make it as. a problem yes no it's not wrong right. now all unjust racial Prejudice at the. public level is directed against white. people it's into a little bit Asian. people because get they get lumped in. and affirmative action too it's the only. race also a little bit with Asians but. it's mostly white people are it is legal. to discriminate against white people for. the purposes of of getting into colleges. and getting jobs that's not true of any. other race in fact other races have an. advantage they get up until because of.

what because why because why Michael. because why diversity hiring practice. but because why why are these in place. because of an unconstitutional uh policy. called affirmative action but why do we. have affirmative action why why because. liberals have a. now it's not being respectful when we're. ignoring why these things are in place. like you all didn't have black people. enslaved for all these years that's the. reason why we have these things. because we're not equal we're trying to.

create more equality because it's so. we're so far gone from that which is too. far gone anyway but slavery was. abolished in 1865. it's 2012. and when. did segregation get when was that. creation police. um. segregation still exists and and that's. why because this is a matter of. Republicans there are now in. universities black only dorms that white. students are not allowed to enter so. segregation still exists today it's just. I personally don't give a [ __ ] but. that's not what I asked you you did it.

yes no I asked you when disagree yeah. like I'm talking about legal segregation. it's going on today I mean I mean. there's segregation by choice obviously. because it's 11 55. yeah I agree with. her I think we should do this on the. next episode sure sure sure should not. be getting introduced last question on. that though so just really quick to put. the kind of maybe your chair on top of. that how do you define racism. um I hate doing this off the top of my. head. um.

very. let me come back to that question do you. think you can be racist against white. people no you could be just I think you. could be just I feel like you could hold. on I want to go around the table on this. before I. Michael or I respond what about you. no no so no can't be racist again I. think you can discriminate against them. or you can be president against them it. can't be racism comes from a place of. like someone having less power over.

someone else or more powerful okay but. if uh if white people right now can be. discriminated against as a matter of Law. and they're basically the only Race For. Whom that is true and if there are now. major policies floating how is that the. only race that's true for I feel Asians. also lumped into something races can. still be discriminated against and it. happens all the time no they can be. discriminated in favor so they can so. when black people apply to colleges they. can get a boost okay so you're using one. example with colleges when you don't.

talk about or workplace. because there wasn't like there was only. there wasn't that demographic in. colleges or workplaces as much so it's. yeah. I'm just saying able to get there. but I'm just saying either way if you. just looked at someone's SAT scores a. black person and a white person with the. same SAT score the black person is going. to get that spot at the University. that's what affirmative action does wait. so can you be racist against white. people no Tatum. I say no a little louder sorry no.

Victoria Oh I thought okay. um yes. no of course and in this context you. just saw a video where someone was. saying something blatantly racist and. she's not going to lose her job or get. castigated most people this table agree. with her the difference is for you in. your case like what that person DMG is. horrible and everyone would condemn that. and that's that's where you can see the. clear racism divide there where you can. see that you could say all these. horrible things about white people. everyone will White Knight and.

justifiably so or like for white people. no one will do that and then if it's a. black person there will be so much. action yeah it's because we just don't. feel that bad for y'all after everything. it's it's you should feel bad for. everybody because racism is an affair. treatment of different race or color. it's not racism. and discrimination period I don't think. he should be saying that about white. people period I don't think it's. something that should happen it's like. it's okay it's wrong no matter who it is.

but it's not it can't be racist it is. from different racism is unfair. treatment based on difference but even. by your definition even if it's just. from Power like someone who has like. legal power hold on right but so even. from that position right now the legal. power is such in the country that if. you're a white person it is lawful for. you to be discriminated against so. where's the power resign in the country. let's look at most people in politics.

let's look at most people have power. let's look at the past the history like. you always like to bring up the history. yeah where does that lie with white. people so why they have the power so yes. maybe she called you a cockroach I'm so. sorry but you guys don't really have to. feel racism to the extent that people of. color do and you'll never understand it. because you're not a person of color but. period you won't get it it's the same. thing that women have to deal with and. you and we will understand stuff that. it's like even the fact that you could. see like I can give giggle and laugh in.

a second though but like I'm I don't. care anyone says I could tell from the. same table we are the two most POC color. people and you can sit and convert have. this conversation and laugh and giggle. and have funny times this is not. anything funny yeah. you know what's really serious the only. the only race in America and also the. Asians a little bit but pretty much the. only race. you can sit here and laugh and giggle at. the the fact that white people are. discriminated against in America as a.

matter of Law and you can laugh and. giggle at the fact that men can be. discriminated against can be castigated. publicly can be can be disparaged and. that will be encouraged so you can laugh. about that because you guys have the. power and you're allowed to enjoy that. but we the poor uh straight white males. here we we feel that and we laugh how. many times. Michael let me ask you a question how. many times have you been attacked when. you're like just doing something like. walking around the street no but without. being known without being known because.

now you're probably known a few times. you said people come up to him and like. oh you crazy white person and just. attacking you purely for your race you. need to leave I've been attacked. multiple times and it's happened really. this Saturday. yes by whom random people one time it. was an Asian lady it's been three older. white men it's usually older white men. older women as well by older white men. in what kind.

another time I worked I went with my. friends this is back this is the first. time I ever got called to my face when I. was 16 years old my friends from K-8. took me to their friend's house he. actually went to play the next year he. played four years as a linebacker. Alabama right we're at his um auto body. shop I walk in he's like to his friend. oh y'all brought the [ __ ] with you. like it's nothing like have you ever. been racially what am I supposed to say. to this 300 pound six foot five white. dude you don't want to sit there I'm. just sitting there smiling getting all.

that [ __ ] to my face you don't have to. deal with that [ __ ] you know what I. wonder though I I do Wonder drop the. fear for your life because you're white. yeah listen I think you could probably. handle yourself pretty well but by 125. pounds. I think he goes probably pretty Scrappy. but I I wonder in that first instance. which is obviously not to excuse it but. in that first instance do you think the. guy called you that or the lady or. whoever it was because that person hates. black people or do you think as I. frequently think these sorts of things. go do you think that person called you.

that because that person didn't like you. and didn't like what what you did okay. so they don't like black people and so. they well I I just don't think it's that. like for instance. because I've been called a guido and I. don't think it's because the person. hates Italian people I think it's. because the person doesn't like me and. so they look at Italian too and that's. not wait that was nowhere near [ __ ] so. that's not even no it's just two things. it's exactly. I might be so mad at what a Mexican or. someone a person goes on the street my. first reaction isn't to be calling them. the b word that's not where my mind goes.

the one who want their First Reactions. call you a b word is because that's. where that stems from yes. listen listen I was lit I was five years. old and I was with my older sister we're. both very obviously POC we're at Barnes. that's so obviously and we're reading. books just reading books minding our own. business a white man comes up to us and. he's a microphone closer you two need to. leave you don't belong here your people. are ruining this country and he started. harassing us so we had to get the people.

in Barnes Noble saw this obviously were. like okay that's not okay we're two. young girls the police were called. something things were happening because. he was physically attacking us and. verbally attacking us physically. attacking yeah he was put he was pushing. my assistant it got extreme and it's. just because we're sitting there reading. books like what is. people can do violent but it doesn't. necessarily mean that it has really. anything to do with your race.

it's a bad thing I'm not saying it's a. good thing to say all this words it's. totally bad but it doesn't mean you. should like what we've seen in the video. is that the black offer Afro-American. woman was relating her hate towards the. another race so she was trying to do. what you have been trying to get rid of. for so long so how does it make a. difference none of us said it was okay. we just said it's not racist none of us. said that she could continue doing that. we just said because of the history of. what how racism according to sociology.

and how the term is defined it's not. racist because you all haven't faced any. oppression for it to be racism. if the law discriminates against you. it's obviously some kind of Oppression. wait and I just also wonder like you. know you've mentioned this that you've. been called all sorts of mean names. because you're black I would not know. that you're black if you didn't tell me. that that's the thing because maybe. you're not racist I wouldn't believe. you're racist but racist people I am. half Italian. 25 Sicilian the rest from Northern Italy.

but that's the thing those racist people. a lot of people could think I'm attack. or Latin whatever racist people they can. tell they that two percent blood. whatever they can they can I don't know. if they can sniff it out of me they know. they know maybe I'm telling you because. like I well I don't even think it. matters whether or not they know she's. back like I've been called black so many. times and I'm not even black yeah yeah. it's just they as they assume they are. generalized they just like I would think. you're you're white passing even if. you're a person of color yeah am I in my.

person of color passing no no no no so. no just white wait so how about this. throughout history have white people. ever faced racism. at any point in history yeah obviously. there was. Holocaust but that's at the hands of. other white people let's talk about the. handsome someone that's not white. so let's talk about it too touchy. politically but there was this study.

that just came out that got everybody in. a lot of trouble like the Dilbert guy. because it was a it was a study about. feelings of racial Consciousness and. racial antipathy and so there's a pure. research study that came out on racial. Consciousness and they examined Asians. Hispanics blacks and whites found out. the question was is your race somewhat. or very important to your identity and. for Asians Hispanics and blacks it was. all 50 plus percent for black people it. was over 70 for white people it was 15. it's very low racial identity and then. there was this survey what do you think. that is because you all don't have to.

consider your racial identity day to day. I can't I can't basically of my life I. can't go a single day of my life almost. without being reminded that I'm black. everyday life for us and you don't even. see it because you don't have to deal. with it yeah it's nothing to you your. race is not a thought to you because. you're just a white man it's nothing to. you me being a black woman I have to. navigate certain things I have to be. like okay maybe like me my mom stopped. somewhere before my mom's black he's on. the way from San Francisco to here we.

stopped somewhere had to leave because. we were threatened to leave because it. was like San Ardo or something we didn't. realize. you don't have to consciously be like oh. I can't stop here because the sun. downtown I can't stop here because. they're known for being racist there are. plenty of places where there are plenty. of places where I wouldn't stop because. I'd get shot or why because because when. you go online and say right because of. how you Persona not because you're a. white man no because I'm a sort of. preppy looking white guy driving you. know I actually don't drive a very nice. car but if I drive into certain. neighborhoods I am probably going to be. hassled a little bit and probably my. race would have something well I think.

it would just I don't think it'd have to. do with the race I think it just have to. do with whether or not you're a person. who looks you don't think a white guy. rolls up a sort of relatively modest. looking white guy rolls up into watts in. the middle of the night and pulls into a. gas station wearing a pink polo shirt. you know going to the ATM you don't. think he's going to get hassled a little. bit I think so it's a black woman like. yeah. not just a white man you don't think. you're not getting hassled situation. because you're a white man you don't. think that the white guy who rolls up. into Compton at the middle of the night. at the ATM you don't think he's more.

likely to be harassed than uh an Asian. guy or no I don't I think they're going. to equally be harassed unless they're. you could obviously they're both clearly. packing a gun or something unless the. white man's a lot smaller than the other. man if they're the same size you're. equally going to get harassed you're not. getting harassment I don't know that. that's born out in in the real. experience of violent crime but Irish. too by the way. the Irish too they were yeah they were. sort of they were discriminated you know. I'm part Irish but I'm not doing. discriminating too the Irish.

against. by who the English so white on white. okay so once again. that's almost like that's almost like. victim blaming it doesn't how does that. victim what you're saying that's what. you're saying. it doesn't do with origin of where they. came from but it has nothing to do with. like skin tone also there hasn't white. people don't migrate into predominantly. black countries uh you know other than. colonialism which isn't exactly regular.

migration in modern times that doesn't. happen so there would be no historical. example for that so we migrated into. this area or you guys colonized this. area well it depends which people you're. talking about so because both Hispanic. slaves I mean they talk you took of. African-American people from Africa I. brought him here and you're like oh well. yeah we don't want you here of slaves. obviously Mexican people they are. California was Mexico literally so I. don't know what you're talking about. yeah I mean but there are there are many. there were two million illegal aliens. who cross into the country oh aliens wow.

they're not humans abortion what no. that's just a that's that's I'm ready. alien it just means a foreigner but I'm. just saying they're not they're not. people from California they're people. who come up from Nicaragua Honduras I. think it's a technical term it's a legal. term like I'm an alien in this country. yeah you're a resident alien she's a. Ukraine. besides the point you're saying they. came here yeah so they'll come from. Nicaragua Honduras Guatemala so they're. not they're it's not like they were. living in Texas or California they've. chosen to immigrate into the country and. that yeah that happens a lot so I'm.

saying there's a lot of people who are. total who are lib who lived here way. long before who because this used to be. Mexico right you push them out we push. them nothing sort of important it was. actually Michael is a genocidal so it. was actually yeah that's true yeah I am. so they you push them out and now they. want to come back and you're like no. you're illegal now so we yeah well it's. no no it's when you when you uh take. Annex a territory it's not that you. Deport everyone it didn't Deport all the. sort of well because it wasn't the. pointing back then it was just.

even you know I mean there wasn't really. a law that the United States wasn't. developing no there wasn't just there. wasn't a genocide of the Mexican people. at the annexation there was genocide of. the name American people there's Genesis. not really not in the way that you would. probably be describing no I mean there. it's much more complicated the the. settlers Indian relations were very. complicated I think about some of my. ancestors you're right no I just I just. have I just happen to have read certain. history books and could tell you what. happened and so you know like when for.

instance when the pilgrims come here. they create a great alliance with. massasoa and the Wampanoag Indians they. didn't just go Slaughter everybody in. fact the wampanoags helped the pilgrims. to go attack the Massachusetts and so. it's just a much more complicated. history than a lot of people want to. pretend which is like white man bad. everyone else I don't think it's just. the it's I I agree I don't think it's. black and white but I'm saying it's very. complex and it's a very complex thing. that I don't think you guys will ever. understand yeah I think if you got. rational faculties you can understand a. lot you know not really unless you.

they're just I don't I don't need to. suffer. I feel like that's a not to research it. sure but like I no matter how much you. say you will never understand what. somebody's going through with cancer. unless you have cancer I could never. claim to know what that's like that's. asinine to say that well but the the. reason that there's such a thing as. sympathy or empathy yeah well empathy. what you're looking for no empathy is. when you actually do have an experience. that one shares but what I'm talking. about is sympathy or compassion which is. suffering with somebody uh that that we.

do all the time yeah you're suffering. with them but you're not feel you're not. experiencing what they're experiencing. just because you know somebody who has. cancer doesn't mean you now know what it. feels like to have cancer that's what. you just said but the problem the. problem is that if we if we cannot. understand the private feelings of other. people if we cannot communicate that in. any way then there cannot be any such. thing as I agree and we should try to. understand but if we cannot accept the. fact that even if we try to understand. we will never truly understand 100. unless we have gone through it we have. to accept that as well but then Kiko I. can tell you you can never you can never.

understand my experience I won't as it. you can never and so but yeah according. to me you're saying people haven't. suffered depression you're saying that. yeah I'm sure you have experience in. person I'm sure you've experienced that. yours individual being as a Christian. man whatever as a non-white person is. how you I guess identify I'm half white. technically go ahead yeah right well. yeah and Sicilian you know that's a. liminal question but I'm just saying you. are identifying as not white right so as. a non-white identifying person I'm just. telling you based on your own logic you. could never understand you could never.

understand the suffering the constant. turmoil yes you know you're saying all. the suffering stuff yeah I wouldn't say. you've endured such suffering but your. your life experience it's just absurd. when it goes in the other direction. because it just it just means we. couldn't communicate you could try to. understand. and you can see that there was suffering. like you're just saying like something. you can understand but I'm joking I. don't think about suffering ever almost. you know suffering is just a fact of. life and it can be it's neither good nor. bad you know it's I mean it's it's a. it's a bad sad fact of the world that we. all suffer but it doesn't you know the. only the only thing that matters morally.

is how you react to suffering it can. either be degrading or it can be. edifying sanctifying. one Super Chat and then we're gonna wrap. all right we have uh Terra Gratz thank. you for the uh 50. uh Kay made a very. definitive Claim about religion Chase. responded to that specific claim all the. girls on the panel then put on earmuffs. like Chase brought religion out of. nowhere don't make declarative. statements and act so immature when they. respond to you check out me and Chase on. a podcast in the future to get a.

response to that question that's in the. books last question for Sam here so Sam. you were dating this guy. you are dating this guy same guy. they're not dating no she's just saying. no no you you are dating there's a guy. you're dating currently talking talking. dating that's so cool Jesus no wonder. um there's all these continue yeah so. you you haven't hooked up with him. are you sure. I mean we've kissed but I don't think.

that's hooking up I'm Just a Kiss yeah. that's not hooky yeah just a kiss no so. not every girl is a 304 Brian you need. to raise your faith. you're scaring me. okay all right okay guys it's 12 12. perfect time to wrap the show uh before. I do anyone final thought or question. otherwise I'm gonna wrap oh wow.

man I'm sorry Michael well you know. listen uh after 2015 so I guess I could. okay I'm taken sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry. all right um. fun thought anybody last speak now. forever hold your peace I just want to. give a shout out to that poor Asian guy. that sent a chat in the beginning of the. show who got absolutely murdered who was. making fifty thousand dollars a year. yeah because he is.

uh shout out to you man thanks for level. up thanks for watching there's a lot of. women out there that's the most brutal. thing I've ever seen on the show. it's it's tough out there. um well hey uh first off I want to thank. the wonderful panel. um we had numerous. we covered numerous uh hot button. political issues and topics so. appreciate you guys uh appreciate. everyone uh being good sports and having. a really good conversation so uh thanks.

for tuning in tonight you could have. been anywhere in the world but you're. here with me I appreciate that thank you. to everyone who super chatted and. supports the show means the world you. guys killed it uh. seriously really appreciate all the. support once again big thank you to the. panel thank you to our chat mods thank. you to Chaz. um shout out to the Daily wire of course. go check them out check out Michael's uh. YouTube channel the Michael Knowles show. be sure be sure to check that out uh any.

women who are short my DMs are open at. BD underscore Atlas uh guys will be live. again Sunday wait yes Sunday at 7 pm. Pacific for our next dating talk show. where we will have on Kiko and Ben. Shapiro just kidding that's not just. kidding um. that'll be a good conversation. um anyways guys uh like I said the. perfect answer that was the perfect. answer I ask myself every day he said. you Michael uh it's not me no no oh what.

was the perfect answer she said who who. the [ __ ] is that guy really sweet. anyways guys Tuesday 7 PM Pacific our. next dating talk Dave Chappelle Deja. vote don't worry about it okay anyways. guys we'll see you next time have a good. night thank you for tuning in and uh. yeah have a good time guys.