HEATED Debate With College Girls?! BANGS 1st Episode! (TRIGGERED) | Dating Talk #50

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howdy accounting how old are you oh 19. graduated early okay. I'm anai I go to sbcc I'm a. Communications major I'm 21 and I'm a. nanny. and the former what. or do you not want to share that. okay I only. former vegan guy. yeah and I'm on bio major I'm 19.

um I'm Vivi I'm a little closer to Mike. I'm Vivi I'm 18. I'm a student at UCSB. and I'm a com major. hi I'm Amber I'm 21 and I study. political science at UCSB. hi I'm Cynthia I'm 21 years old I go to. UCSB as well and I'm an economics major. hi I'm Natasha I'm 20 years old and I'm. a content creator welcome back. so excited to be next to her uh I'm MLD.

that's what they call me on these. YouTube streets Jonathan from Modern. Life dating I'm 37 I'm an entrepreneur. I'm an investor all around fantastic guy. happy to be in the great state of. California with you buddy thanks for. having me on thank you for coming by the. way guys me and John we will be doing a. one-on-one interview tomorrow guys 2 p.m. around 2PM Pacific and we're gonna get. into some juicy stuff. so Andrew will be joining us on the.

Tuesday dating talk show too correct yes. sweet sweet. boom perfect guys everyone's Instagrams. are in the description please show them. some love give them a follow and uh. Natasha's returning now over the winter. break I posted a tick tock featuring. Natasha from our show. uh and it kind of went pretty viral got. 10 million views and uh. Natasha do you want to address. anything related to that.

you know what when we watch it Carson. can you uh pull it up it should be that. one of the first Tick Tock tabs. got 10 million views basically she's. hating hating on makeup. right sure all right Natasha's I don't. know if she like she likes that she I. like it I like the other backbone I like. that you have a backbone you got it. Carson. okay yeah you can pull that one up.

yeah so um this isn't the video but the. original like two almost 300 people. reacted to it. um it was. it was uh see if you can uh click on the. original let's see if it plays. there it is. um oh pause it pause it pause it. uh turn the audio on at the bottom there. yeah and then start it from the. beginning. I don't like makeup I.

boost the idea I don't think it's good. for women and I don't think. they really need to be using using. asleep. [Laughter]. [Music]. it's capitalizing on women's. insecurities when it's something that. they can easily fix I think it takes. away from a woman a woman's natural. beauty and also. it is so bad for you free like you think. about how skin absorbs things when you. read the ingredients on a foundation. bottle what is in it you can't even.

pronounce it it's. a bunch of crap that you're putting on. your face and that is in turn making. your skin worse so you have to keep. buying more Foundation to cover up what. it's creating I don't like makeup okay. the editing is good at cutting to the. girl uh maybe I should have saved that. for later because maybe some of the. girls here at the table might have a. response to that but. um so it got like 11 million views on. Tick Tock it got posted on some other. people stole it Instagram I think one.

page got 10 million too. you got a bit of hate right you got to. be the hate quite a bit just a little. bit closer to the mic yeah quite a bit. did you see my um my response video to. it yeah I did I think it was something. along the lines of I think it was. something like uh I'd like to take this. chance to apologize. absolutely nobody. so uh you we'll come back to the makeup. thing because we'll have the girls maybe. react to that but you all saw the clip. so we're gonna go around the table once.

more what is your current relationship. status longest relation and longest. relationship go ahead I'm single and. I've never been in a relationship before. never been and but you're 18 right so. you're you're freshman at UCSB so I mean. that's that's not out of the norm what. is the longest period of time that. you've currently been seeing a guy maybe. you haven't had a boyfriend maybe you. haven't been in a relationship but. I assume maybe there's a guy you dated.

for a month or two have you dated at all. no have you. uh okay no never hung out with never. dated a guy I've never been in a. relationship with a guy. but have you. done anything romantic with the guy are. you a virgin or not. that's not a question I'm comfortable. answering okay that's what we're going. to do well I mean even even if it's not. that I mean. you could have. the answer is no.

she's not she's not it could be it could. be been in a talking stage with a guy. but it's never become a relationship. okay and how long did would you say that. talking stage lasted a couple months oh. okay I mean. and why did he dump you I guess we just. kind of went our separate ways because I. was going to college so oh this was a. high school sure. sure. I mean well I've grad I would have. graduated high school oh this is like. summertime okay After High School gotcha.

gotcha okay go ahead. um my last relationship probably a. little less than a year. um what was the other question current. relationship status oh I'm single okay. good times why did uh you said it was. less than a year yes like. eight months why did he dump you. why is not the opposite ah you know. assumptions. well I did. I broke up with him because he cheated. on me so good times it was really fun.

good times always fun okay. go ahead. I am single and my longest lasting. relationship was a little bit over nine. months. okay. I am in a relationship and the longest. I've been in one I would say about a. year and a half but it was very on and. off so that's not your current. relationship okay how long have you been.

seeing your current guy. um well we were best friends for about a. year and then we just started dating. okay we just got together sure. sure I'm single and I've never been in. an official relationship. you've never been in an official have. you been in an unofficial relationship. yes. into the mic please. um. what how would you define an unofficial. relationship I never got asked to be his. girlfriend. how long were you guys together. a year and a half.

yikes okay. um you were basically you were basically. his girlfriend he just didn't give you. the time I mean that's what he says yeah. guys are simple like that. coming back that means he likes you well. so my question is did you. was there ever a time where you said hey. I want this to be official and he turned. you down okay so you were pushing for it. but. um he had an excuse college so did he go. to college here no oh it was long.

distance well because it was from high. school senior year yikes even worse okay. okay. moving on go ahead. I'm in a relationship we've been dating. we took the microphone down oh that. works too yeah um but we've been. official for like two weeks. it's like my first real relationship. honestly congratulations congrats all. right that's good that's good. I'm very single and. um my longest relationship was my first.

relationship it was about like seven. eight months So when you say you're very. single. what what is the very like how how. explain that just very single like I. don't even know explain it like you're. forever alone. I think there's a lot of trashy guys out. here oh trashy guys trashy guys so. that's why I emphasize very single what. why are they trashy. oh.

we can get you started go ahead. I need a moment that's too much you need. a moment okay you're wait hold on you. need a moment. [Music]. so okay but you're very single so does. that mean that you're just. not even hooking up with anybody or. hooking up with people but I think a lot. of people with our like relationship. quality it's just it's not here.

especially like an IV I would say when. you when you say you're hooking up with. people do you mean multiple people. yes. do you care to elaborate on the. multiplicity is that a word I don't know. I mean I hook up with people here and. there there's some people that I keep in. contact with to hook up with but that's. the nature of the relationship so you. got a roster like you got some regulars. oh yeah oh hell yeah okay okay and uh so.

what is the most. how big is your roster. okay um as of currently I'm just hooking. up with like two three people right now. two to three two and a half. 2.75 maybe 2.69 okay just around there. right now okay. see there's this three dudes that you're. seeing at the same time and sleeping. with all three at the same time. on and off but I don't know if I would.

say yeah and they know that she that you. have multiple guys. um I never really talked about it with. them but I never really talked about it. with them but I'm assuming they're. seeing other people too okay it's kind. of like I think that's kind of the meta. in college. with yeah just you almost have to go in. assuming that people are seeing like. other people. that's uh unhealthy as [ __ ] I don't. disagree with you Natasha. um current relationship status longest.

relationship I'm currently single and. the longest relationship I had was. roughly a year and a half. okay and John. look at me do I look like I'm single. come on I'm Jonathan I've been in my. current relationship now two years. longest one I've been in was. just over four. so. yeah and you said your current. relationship are you monogamous. ah.

put me on the spot. um. it's been discussed her side is. definitely closed. there's I didn't there's none of that. if anybody's getting any side play it's. me. but I don't like to like I don't like to. go out and like you know parade around. and say that but that's the truth so you. have a main chick. and occasionally side chicks if they're. like I don't know. I feel like the quality of women is. going down so it's just getting hard and.

harder to find somebody that's like just. cool that's not gonna stress me out and. like ruin my vibe ruin my business. but yeah but I I will say though as I'm. getting older I'm kind of like wanting. now. I now realize like the whole the like. the hot girl summer the hot dude summer. all that stuff is it's a lie like the. more fulfilling stuff comes to a common. relationship and family down the road I. realized that I had to go through all. this [ __ ] myself but that's where I'm. kind of like. anti-degeneracy like too much sexual.

degeneracy and stuff like that because. it really [ __ ] with people big time. got it and you so you live you're in. Japan yeah you're in Tokyo yeah Tokyo. Japan and your girlfriend I assume is. Japanese. it's just a top secret. um okay don't give away too much too. much information okay but she's also in. Japan I assume yes she is okay sure so. make of that what you will but uh okay. cool so. well I imagine and you how long have you. been living in Japan. um.

let's see eight eight years but not. collectively six years in Tokyo in a row. and then one year in Osaka and one year. in saitama okay and you're a U.S citizen. correct unfortunately I am American. unfortunately okay interesting why is it. because they tax you wherever you go. that's right oh you still get a tax in. Japan yeah I still pay taxes in America. and oh you're paying both yes wow okay. the price for being successful is. financial have you ever thought about.

um what is it revoking your abandoning. your U.S citizenship or whatever yeah no. I'm looking at it there's a couple. options there's like Saint Kitts and. then there's. um there's a couple Eastern European. unions but I just want to get rid of the. tax bill I pay from the United States. right because I don't like the taxes. here okay got it got it and you so are. you able to stay in Japan full time or. do you have to like come back to the. States. so for a couple months or whatever. typically based upon your Visa okay yeah.

so I had a five year visa for right now. and then and now I'm switching my visas. and so it's being renewed and then if I. can't get that. I'll figure out another Visa but yeah. you typically need a visa to stay okay. got it got it cool cool all right so um. by the way guys we had. I think this is a record only one girl. FL flake for the show. um so I want to thank everyone who uh. was able to make it tonight and uh so. we're gonna go around the table on this.

really quick. um hold on here so our oh oh [ __ ] I. forgot to add that uh the screenshots of. the dating apps I might be able to pull. it up later. um who who here is on the dating app to. show of hands. dating adaptation app okay we might pull. up. we might pull up a little dating app uh. reaction review from the girls so uh. some of them were so kind to uh. share their dating app hijinks with us.

so we might do that in a little bit. um are any of you have any of you ever. had a sugar daddy. okay you smiled I'm assuming that's a. yes no okay anybody here we'll just. start we'll go around the table no. no I've never. no nope no nope no. John wrong. there we go cool cool cool all right so.

I got a question for you guys. um how many of you a lot of you are in. college right. how many of you and UCSB most of you go. to UCSB right or Santa Barbara City. College correct so I mean. UCSB. CC pretty big party schools. UCSB is frequently ranked the number one. party school in the U.S. how many of you party. Thursday Friday Saturday.

or more. I think it depends on the weekend but. I mean definitely Friday nights. definitely partying but yeah we got our. Priority First. of partners in crime yes okay I say I. say. I don't really party I'll like drink. with my friends but I'm not really the. type to go out and. do all that wholesome.

yeah I actually don't party here as much. as I used to back home. um I don't really go out that often it. depends on how cold it is outside I. can't hear the cold it is cold right now. yeah I don't go out every weekend but if. I do it's not three days in a row it's. like Max two. yeah okay you can't do that good for you. um we're actually roommates and so. sometimes we do go out um sometimes we. just hang out with their friends kick. back drink. um but we usually don't do that three.

days in a row because we got school and. [ __ ]. school and [ __ ] okay got it yeah I don't. really party just the occasional thing. with my friends you know. okay. John you party uh Tokyo not as often as. I used to but when I do man just just. watch out but no these days I was. partying with the boys in Miami for. their 1 million subscriber yeah yeah I. saw that I saw that shout out fresh and. fit okay so.

it seems like there's a little. difference here in terms of people's uh. proclivity for partying. um I encountered this recently where I. was talking to this girl and I was. trying to plan a day with her for like a. Friday like a week down the road and she. and I've actually encountered this quite. frequently. their Thursday Friday and Saturday is. just spoken for it doesn't like even if. you ask to make a plan they already know.

they're already going to be partying. Thursday Friday Saturday sometimes. Sunday. so. first off I think that right immediately. if a girl tells me that. she's partying I'm already starting to. lose interest but if I'm asking you on a. Monday are you free Friday and she. already knows she's just gonna do her. basic normal party thing I'm just. already lost interest so my question to. you is let's say you were talking to a. guy and you're really interested in him. and.

you wanted to angle for a relationship. you wanted exclusivity with him one of. his conditions for exclusivity was that. you stop going out and partying. do you accept that or do you say hey. you're not gonna control me I'm gonna do. my own thing I'm gonna go party. take it or leave it go ahead. personally I wouldn't accept that just. because I think a huge part of partying. at least for me is going out with my.

friends like I love going out with my. friends my guy friends my girlfriends. it's just always a fun night like no. matter where we go even if we don't find. a party it's just the whole spending. time with them and just bonding I mean. we all we hang out outside of partying. too but I think that that would make me. a little bit upset because he's taking. away time from my friends but I. understand if. my kind of goal going into partying was. oh I'm gonna go to this party I'm gonna.

find a guy I understand that but for me. personally I party with my friends so. okay what about you. I would say I mean definitely like can. you tilt the microphone down just. slightly. yeah. well if it's like a condition like you. have to I would say no but at the same. time like. I would be down to probably hang out. with like my boyfriend or the guy I'm. talking to instead of like going out on. Friday night but it can't be like every.

Friday night I'm just gonna give up. having fun with my friends and like just. for a guy like no probably probably like. a mix of both. no I do not listen to men. uh let's go inside you don't listen to. men no no I am I going to even if he is. my boyfriend am I gonna marry him I'm 21. I don't. have to marry him so if I want to go out. with my friends and party I'm gonna go.

out with my friends and party I really. don't care if he's telling me not to go. because nine times out of ten he's. probably going to bars and party and is. probably partying with his friends so. I'm guessing that exception's probably. just for me is he also gonna is is that. not allowed for him either is he also. gonna go party or is he is that just for. me he's not gonna he doesn't party. than maybe. okay oh she's full of [ __ ] this girl if. it's the same this girl's full of [ __ ].

if it's the same way if he's not gonna. go party then maybe it depends how much. I like him you just want to be loved no. yeah I do want to be loved but I'm not. gonna go make these exceptions for a guy. to be honest that's not I'm 21. he's not. telling you I just he's not all in all. he's not telling you to accept some like. abusive standard she's like you're. dating a guy he's like yeah I don't go. out and drink could you not go out and. drink too you're like well it'll let men. tell me what to do like well yeah. because if he's already trying to.

control what I'm doing and who I'm going. out with what I'm doing in my free time. that that might be the start of. something toxic and I don't want to put. myself in that situation let's just I'm. 21 years old I just became the legal age. to go out to bars if a man is telling me. I'm sorry no you can't go out and drink. with your friends I'm sorry but you're. not the man for me and I'm I immediate. Italy would lose that interest because. I'm not gonna I'm sorry but I'm my own. person I have free will and I don't.

think I would really love somebody. enough to just be like. drop everything and just listen to them. I am my own person. Natasha were you gonna respond during no. wait wait okay so. well I'll address it really quick why. not we can address it really quick since. it's interesting um so. you said that you wouldn't change any of. your behaviors when you get into a. relationship but isn't part of a.

relationship you do change certain. things for example you no longer sleep. with other people assuming you're in a. monogamous relationship obviously yeah. you I think it's best to grow when. you're in a relationship it's only it if. you're benefiting and you're growing in. a relationship good but if you are. unhappy and if you're not happy like. staying home with that with your man and. not gonna you would rather be partying. break up with him don't be with him.

because if you'd rather be parting go do. that it doesn't you're not committed to. be. stay-at-home girlfriend with your man. and just listen to your man because is. that man providing for me financially. probably not is does he have a ring did. he put a ring on my finger probably not. is he gonna put a ring on my finger. probably not I'm 21 years old probably. not and I'm not looking for that I'm not. looking for that that's okay I'm not. looking for marriage at 21 years old and.

I don't think I'm gonna find a high. value man at this age because there. isn't any high value men at this age. well I mean it's actually at 21 years. old that's the best time to be looking. for high value man but. you know. he's right. the. go ahead you wanted to come in Jungle. who's the guy that made you made you. like this. wait did you just do that. why do you think a man has made me like.

this who do you think somebody. definitely hurt you no guy has really. hurt me are you just born with all this. angst and haters. why because I have Valley and like. values that aren't traditional I didn't. say anything listen just because I'm. wearing listen just because I'm wearing. a suit doesn't mean just relax relax. relax relax okay just because I'm. wearing a suit doesn't mean I'm. traditional it means I'm professional. okay so okay all I'm trying to say is he.

asked you like a very simple question. but you came back with like a fiery. emotionally charged answer that was kind. of like a little bit anti-male and so. kind of trying to figure out like. yeah like what happened. nothing happened I've only really ever. been in one really serious relationship. and I was the one who ended it because I. thought that it would be more fun to be. single and I've had a really great time. being single and I honestly can't.

remember so happy I'm happy I'm not. looking for a relationship yeah I've. been on like dating sites but if you. look at the people that I match with or. the people that I like my messages there. really isn't none because I haven't. found that high Value Mill that I want. to marry her pursue or even sleep with I. value men nine times out of ten they're. not on dating apps that is correct just. like high value women nine times out of. ten are not on dating apps what makes a.

high value woman oh God what's that can. Concepts form to you Concepts foreign to. you modesty modesty being demure modesty. what does modesty yeah modesty and. character modestine appearance modesty. in her demeanor you just don't like it. when a woman is outspoken you're. intimidated by that [ __ ] you just met. me like 10 minutes ago okay starting to. say you just called me a [ __ ] you. inspected me I have not insulted you I.

said that you are intimidated that you. are intimidated nobody's intimidated by. you first of all I don't know second of. all yeah it seems like you're. intimidated by somebody that like that. speaks the truth that modesty that is. okay okay that is your concern modesty. so yeah you just said that a high Valley. woman the first thing that came out of. your mouth was modesty that is at the. top things that came out at the top of. the list modesty no then why did you. name it can we can we just lower the.

temperature a little bit just she's. triggered as [ __ ] I would say John but. just maybe refrain from right but at the. same time you don't know me so you've. talked to me for like a few minutes and. you swear to God you have like my entire. ideology summed up. okay. I can talk too I'll talk I can talk. okay so I'm good I didn't lose Michael. yeah yeah so okay so you were talking.

about how. and it's if you want to do the hot girl. summer winter or whatever the [ __ ] I've. been doing that yeah so like you're. saying hey if you're just gonna go to. the clubs I don't go to the club. party but I'll go and drink with my. friends but I'm not going out in big. groups no but you just said that you. just turned 21 and I'd like to keep it. as an option but I haven't gone yet. uh wait so I'm not really sure what.

we're arguing about but. so your main thing is that you would not. tolerate a guy saying hey here yeah I. personally I don't really maybe in the. future I'll go to bars with my friends. once they're all 21 but if a man is. telling me hey don't go out to the bar. don't go drinking with your friends. don't do this and he's already putting. these restrictions Carson you gotta go. hold on Carson no no no no no no Carson. no no no dude stream yard f11.

windows. no dude dude f11. hit the window button. pull up OBS put it always on top go to. file. go to the file. always on top. it's all good. there we go okay continue. um I forgot what I was saying but she. even frazzled the camera guy. go ahead continue. um so what I was saying is if a man is.

putting those restrictions on me saying. hey you can't go party you can't do this. you can't do that no he's already trying. to limit you he's already trying to. restrict you because are you also. telling him that hey maybe yeah there's. like those basic things like don't text. other girls you're not texting other. guys those basic unspoken things that. you already are supposed to do in a. relationship okay but if a man is. telling you hey don't go party with your.

friends what is the reason is it because. he's scared that you're gonna go hook up. with another guy maybe and that's his. issue. let me ask would you let's say your. boyfriend was going to the strip club. two times a week would you have an issue. with that. spoke and ruin a relationship you don't. go into the strip club well you. shouldn't go to bars and clubs when. you're in a relationship is that an. unspoken rule I mean yeah it is.

you shouldn't really be. like partying with your single female. friends or single friends for that. matter if you're in a relationship what. is the positive. maybe that's what you think in your own. dating life but we're young. that's not how it works for us she's 20. and she agrees with us she's younger. than you okay so that your entire. argument just went down the trash if if. you don't want to be in a relationship. and you just want to party that's that's. fine for you if that's your choice that.

you want to make do that though I just. don't want to be in a relationship. that's restricting me I don't want to. party I don't party I don't do that I. just told you guys I don't but they're. in relationships you make compromises. there are trade-offs that you make you. adjust your behavior some guys can be. compromising when he dates you for sure. but what are you going to compromise for. him nothing. yeah obviously I'll compromise but not. going out if a man okay if I want to go. have fun with my girls I want to go have.

fun with my girls. I'm not gonna go stay at home at 21 just. because a man told me to why would I do. that I'm 21 do I listen to my own dad. and mom you're not really good not sure. so why am I gonna go listen to another. man just because I like him right now. what what just I'm not gonna be with him. forever I'm not gonna marry him so why. am I gonna make these restrictions for. him just curious just him why do you. frame it as I'm not going to listen to.

amen versus just I'm not going to listen. to my boyfriend. they're just oh no there seems to be a. slight animosity there with the the man. part but yeah but um so. you would have an issue with your. boyfriend going to the strip club even. though it's a strip club even though. while I would argue that the chance of. your boyfriend being able to sleep with. one of the strippers is far lower than. your chance to sleep with a guy when. you've got an intoxicated at a bar or.

club or party. who do you think I am I'm not saying I'm. just gonna get drunk and sleep with. whoever do people make better decisions. when they're drunk or Worse decisions. like there's a study about this one. person go ahead no it's like your dance. from the question I am answer the. question do you think I know like so. you're impervious to judgment decisions. that are that are caused by alcohol I. believe people make some bad decisions. while they're drunk but.

don't get to that level if you're going. out to have fun then you're not going. out to like maybe yeah if you want a. blackout go black out but if you want to. go and just have fun and drink casually. with your friends that's okay you're not. yeah if you're gonna go you're gonna if. you're really gonna go drink and cheat. and use oh I was no. alcohol is not an excuse for cheating. goes both ways men and women sure but. okay. if you're gonna cheat at the bar I'm. sorry if you're gonna cheat at the bar.

that is your own decision that is not. alcohol telling you that is because you. want to cheat question for you in the. history of all infidelities that have. happened all throughout history do you. think anyone has ever mistakenly cheated. like or they regret having cheated. um perhaps when they were intoxicated I. don't know I don't know oh my God I mean. I'm I'm looking for one one time that. somebody regrets it but okay I want to. give everyone I'm sure maybe somebody.

has regretted it and they lost that. person and they were like okay like. I guess sure I'm sure somebody has. regretted it Natasha you won't regret it. because they got caught you know. well some I mean even if they don't get. caught sometimes you make you cheat. and you're like I [ __ ] up. and yeah but but cheating is a conscious. decision drinking and going out and. seeking a guy to sleep with that's a. conscious decision sure I don't think. that any amount of alcohol I've been you. know like I've been intoxicated well.

past my capacity to do that and I could. still make conscious decisions you know. so I was even thinking in those. instances I was like oh wow people. really use that excuse of being drunk. um as a way to like kind of justify them. sleeping with other people when that's. not it's just a conscious decision that. you make alcohol doesn't really affect. that in my opinion. okay I want to give everyone an. opportunity to answer the original. question why don't you go ahead. um I actually kind of agree with what. she was saying to some extent and I'm in.

a relationship I don't I wouldn't be. okay with a guy putting restrictions on. me. um how long have you how long have you. been dating your current party. [Music]. um. but like two months two months okay and. you guys are exclusive and monogamous. yes okay and if he listen and my. personal take is if it's every once in a. while. whatever but if it's like you know. there's a birthday party me per I know. some guys are like not at all but me.

personally if it's like a one-time thing. but otherwise she doesn't party or go. clubs whatever but if it's like she. wants to party every weekend that's a. major issue that's a major issue I have. a party every weekend but if I wanted to. I would. and I'm not going to let whoever I'm. dating dictate that because it mostly. just roots from insecurity. is it insecurity or is it just having a. boundary.

they're connecting that with hooking up. and you can have fun at a party without. hooking up when I go out to a party and. I have been I'll go like partying just. with friends having fun what you call. insecurity I call having a boundary go. ahead Natasha well I was going to say. that boundary also comes from wanting. respect so you going out and not. partying and drinking and getting drunk. and having all these men be attracted to. you and like coming up to you and stuff. that is him. it's just a respect thing you know.

like have you ever experienced that I've. gone out to party I've never once. disrespected what I'm in. and I've I go out sometimes I go to. clubs and I go with him too and if I. were to tell him I just feel like going. out with my girlfriends he would be okay. with it and if you were to tell me I. would just want to go with my guy. friends I would be okay with it because. we both trust each other and if we don't. trust each other and why the [ __ ] are. you in a relationship. we'll continue going around the table go.

ahead by the way can I have everyone. just all of you on that side push your. cups further into the table please. go ahead. what was the question again so why is. she so mad. he just can't let go of it. so the question is. all right you guys can kiss and make up. after the show okay so. um would you have an if your boyfriend. said hey I don't want you.

going to bars and clubs. um no I wouldn't be okay with that. because you wouldn't wouldn't be okay. yeah. um I don't want him to think he has. control on like other aspects after that. so it should be like I understand the. whole compromise thing I agree with the. compromise so obviously I'm not going to. be going out like every weekend and. stuff like that but I shouldn't be. restricted from going out at all or if I. feel like oh going two weekends in a row. I shouldn't be giving [ __ ] for it if I. decide to do so okay would would you.

give a guy [ __ ] if he was paying for. another girl girls only fans while. dating you definitely oh but you're he's. his own person. you can't control what he does. why is he seeking like it's just for fun. like entertainment he's just having fun. like talking to but that's a different. type of like okay what about the strip. club. okay is that the problem if he goes to. the strip club twice a week okay so I. have older brothers and they're married.

you know they go out and things like. that sure I'm not opposed to strip club. as long as they're not paying for. private dances uh but like my I don't. know I have older brothers I kind of. see it like so you okay you wouldn't. mind the strip club though your. boyfriend's going the strip club twice a. week I mean twice a week is a little. excessive like I'm not gonna be going. out every weekend I'm not expecting him. to be going out every weekend okay all. right sure go ahead what about you. tilt the mic down or fix your posture. um I don't know I'm not like a fan of an.

ultimatum like that but I don't really. care if other people want those. boundaries like it's not my problem. that's the truth if like if other people. want to do that in their relationships. that's fine. I already don't really go out that much. I'm honestly like still new to the whole. scene of going out like. so I'm already it but like I don't I'm. not like super interested in going out. and getting super drunk anymore now that. I'm in a relationship just because I I.

feel like I get annoying and I start. spam texting. that person I just I just yeah but for. like other reasons honestly. so you think it's an ultimatum. um if that's if that's how you described. it but if it's not like I don't know. yeah I want to add on to that I think it. depends a lot on the situation like if. he just comes up to me and he's like. don't go to parties. it's different than if he were sitting. down and we're just having a.

conversation he's like hey it makes me a. little uncomfortable or I don't feel. like too good with it it's two. completely different situations and two. completely different reactions that I'm. gonna have okay. um personally for me if you said a guy I. was seeing at the time right who yeah so. let's say you were like hey I want to be. monogamous with you and he's like that's. fine just you you seem to party a lot. and uh if like I'm not prepared to. commit to you if you're partying all the.

time going out every weekend. I mean first off I would understand. where he's coming from. um but personally for me. I feel going out like partying every. weekend at what like what she said was. um connecting with my friends and it's. just a social thing that I want to do. with my friends to keep in touch and get. drunk whatever. um so personally for me that would not. be okay. um I I wouldn't be okay with that. because I just feel that as a view that. as a social Gathering hangout my friends. and if you're restricting me hanging out.

with my friends that's not cool. okay. Natasha I think that the situation is. very situational but. I would say that I'd be okay with it. because one I don't really enjoy parties. like me personally right. and I would understand it because you. know men understand what goes on at. parties and I don't think he's I don't. think Brian's talking about the. wholesome parties that you guys are. talking about like with your friends. it's not like that type of thing I think. he's talking about the ones where you. know you drink a lot and you're. surrounded by a lot of guys and there's.

a lot of like. you know different things going on that. aren't so wholesome and nice and cute. um so knowing that like if he came to me. talking about how he doesn't really want. a girl that parties and is being sought. out by different guys and potentially. seeking out different guys like I. completely completely understand that. it's a respect thing and it's a valid. boundary I believe flan life thank you. for the 10 gifted subs or memberships. excuse me thank you man uh John did you. want to come in on this again. uh I just think that boundaries are good.

for relationships I know most people. here haven't had a relationship over two. years but um like you have to understand. that the boundaries a lot of people. think boundaries for relationships are. to keep the woman trapped and oppressed. and like some sort of just like. subjugation but reality it's to protect. your relationship for the two of you. boundaries aren't there just for one. person they're from two of you it's the. guy's not there just trying to like. control you and be like oh you must be.

under my thumb because you're a woman. because I think a lot of you girls like. take it that hard left extreme or hard. right whatever you know but it's really. just not like that at all it's just. boundaries. maybe because that for. go ahead you just seemed annoyed right. when I opened my mouth but we knew you. were gonna talk. we knew you were gonna have something to. say no matter what it's because for. literally. sens civilization women have been. oppressed by men and it's okay to have.

that Garda how do you do maybe in our. households or other things we've seen. we've seen relationships where the man. has been toxic and has been controlling. to women maybe that's what we've been. around and it's okay to have that guard. up and it's okay to not let men control. you it's okay to for you to also have. those personal boundaries yeah there's. boundaries in a relationship but you. must also put personal boundaries within.

yourself because if you're just like. with this man you're just going off. whatever he's saying or whatever you're. not you don't have a mind of your own. and you end up losing those boundaries. and you end up getting used as a. stepping stool how do you know that. you're 21. I've been in a relationship. and I've had I've I know I'm telling you. that we've seen maybe we've seen things. around me us maybe are any of these.

girls your friends no but I'm saying in. general I have friends that have seen. maybe toxic relationships in their. household maybe their friends have been. in toxic relationships maybe women that. we have grown up with wait yeah let me. just come in really quick so you think a. guy yeah you have a not a very negative. perspective on a lot of things okay so. you think by the way hold on hold on. flan life thing for the five gifted so.

you think men wanting their. girlfriends Partners wives to not be. partying going out to bars and clubs. you think that that's oppression because. you use the word oppressed I said women. have been oppressed since the beginning. of time. are you really how yeah go ahead how. you're the one saying this is true yes. here's maybe a better question no. because I'm not going okay because you.

don't know how because you don't know no. if I'm not gonna it's a normal listen in. normal conversation where people aren't. sitting around and patronizing you. because you're loud and obnoxious and a. lot of people don't want to confront you. and tell you that but I'll tell you that. right now young lady you're very loud. and obnoxious and you're rude and you're. full of a lot no I'm talking right now. you had your chance imma talk when I'm. done you talk that's equality right. keep going right thank you very much all. right now what I'm saying is in.

conversation when you bring something up. you can't just State something as fact. and then not defend it and then say oh. well if you don't know it's just because. you're XYZ because that's what you're. doing right now so you said women have. been oppressed by man since the dawn of. civilization yes how. if you don't know that I'm not going to. explain to you because just put a big L. in the chat for her guys just put a big. L for this girl bro people don't like.

you in real life I'll tell you this. right now okay hold on hold on you're. very rude you're very rude very rude I'm. giving I came here to give myself I was. invited here to give my opinion and. that's what he that's exactly what I'm. gonna do and you're not gonna shun me. and you're not gonna shut me out and. call me obnoxious because Mr I can say. the exact same thing about you look at. you you come in here and you're just. gonna talk to these 18 19 really early. 20 year old girls how old are you I. already told you I don't remember oh.

shocker okay guys guys. and call me obnoxious you are obnoxious. okay people don't like you take a good. look at yourself if you're gonna come. here onto a dating show and talk to me a. 21 year old girl that way John why John. John John John you don't have a yeah. okay am I insulting you no never once. did I insult you or John she does have a. point you have used a couple ad hominem.

attacks called me a [ __ ] and never once. did I called her a [ __ ] so maybe you. should rethink the way you're speaking. to me and then I will give you that same. respect back okay you did you did call. her a [ __ ] you did uh say that no one. likes her yeah I would I would I could. print the room no I would encourage you. to address her arguments rather than a. use ad hominem okay because that just. shows that you're insecure you're coming. towards me my person but you still can't.

name anything that women were oppressed. by men since the dawn of civilization. right cool woman just double checking on. that cool. so you don't think they work. uh are we already getting into the. feminist stuff yeah you're all right I'm. just asking no I'm asking you you don't. you are part of the problem if you don't. think women were ever oppressed. the problem and that scares me because. you said that you have a fan base in. America and that really scares me for. the men that are looking up to you the.

young impressional boys that are looking. up to you that really scares me. I don't even have to know because the. fact that you're saying right now you're. coming you're so looking that you're. talking to you are talking to a group of. women and you're telling us that we've. never been oppressed you're telling us. that we've never been oppressed. is that what you're saying no you're. telling me to give you answers so it's. like you don't believe that we've ever. been a problem you're you're making like. no logical sense.

at all oh my gosh like you can like you. could read the chat and nobody here. wants to speak up but no one okay it's. like probably like what 14 15 year old. little boys yeah everybody's wrong. except for you everybody who is who. oppresses you or or is against you is. oppressing you and you're the Eternal. victim and everybody's the big bad guy. solid way to get your way through life. that I'm not. I'm not stand up for myself.

and quiet and I'd be playing. I'm here and I'm talking to you and I'm. using my voice and I'm here to stand up. for all these girls that maybe don't. want to say anything because you're. coming off as this big scary guy who's. insulting them so maybe they are scared. to get insulted too you just called me a. [ __ ] Gary just yeah oh yeah maybe okay. well how tall are you what maybe you're. not that scary okay can we all agree to. turn down both of you turn down the the.

heat a little bit on this conversation. yes it's gone a bit heated on both sides. Let's uh. tone it down a bit both of us can we. agree to that. can we agree to that yes okay thank you. okay all right. so oh wow okay uh. what were we talking about I think we. were talking about. um we were talking about dating and.

parties partying and going to the club. okay so we'll come back to the oppressed. thing later on the show because we can. have a solid debate on that later I. think I would like to keep it on topic. so. who was last everyone we went around the. table everyone got to give their little. piece right okay so it seems like the. consensus for most of you is that it. would be an issue if your partner.

or before you got into a relationship. with a guy said hey. if you want to be serious with me. monogamous I don't want you going to. bars clubs parties anymore you would. have an issue with that correct I think. most of you. okay. yes I mean I don't think it would be. like an issue if he's willing to give up. on partying or going out as well it. should be like a they I I think we. should like communicate.

about like boundaries and what we were. comfortable doing and what we were not. and kind of both compromise it's not. like you can't do this okay so I'll go. because I asked a few of you this. question I want to just go around the. table on this so it seemed like most of. you were okay with or sorry most of you. would have an issue if your partner said. hey not comfortable with you going to. bars and clubs and parties anymore you. know going out with your single. girlfriends partying or whatever uh one. question for you guys. um. when you do go out do you go out to meet.

men or are you going out to have fun. with your girls. absolutely not I do not go out to look. for men. I go out I go with my friends and I. think that this argument. it can change depending on where you are. in life like if I'm older I'm living in. a city I'm living by myself I meet a guy. I'm dating him I think that I would. I would understand where he's coming. from in a sense but right now I wouldn't. accept that because. I'm not looking for a relationship so I.

guess it just kind of depends where you. are what you're looking for but like my. argument stands I love to go out with my. friends I'm not looking for a. relationships so I guess maybe I'm not. in the right place to argue about this. and my side but honestly I. for me I definitely go and party with my. friends I don't go out and I that my. goal isn't to be like by the end of the. night I want to hook up with a guy okay. just a yes or no on this one go ahead no. I agree with her yes it's. yeah like I'm with my friends it's for.

fun not to meet guys okay I go out to be. with my friends not to go meet a guy. yeah and go out to be with my friends. and dance not look for men yeah be my. friend especially not here. just for with my friends yeah I agree. with all of them. I guess friends but I'd say a lot of. girls do go out to find guys right so my. question is then if. and I know some of you aren't going to. bars and clubs yet because you're not. 21.

if it's just to meet with your friends. why not just meet at one of your houses. get a you can play some music at one of. your houses just you and your female. friends. play some music. cheap alcohol I know some of you aren't. going to bars yet but if you go to the. bars the alcohol is much more expensive. at the bar you got to get an Uber there. like there's there's more finance that. or there's more money that goes into it. so.

why go out if it's just to hang out with. your friends and have a good time. personally I don't really go out I don't. party but when I do it is the past few. times I've been like going out it's been. at my house or um. this is a multi-millionaire with. countless accomplishments by most. metrics he is a successful man the fact. that bangs slash lashes can make a.

statement a b t oppression and not. substantiate it is a serious problem in. our world. guilty until proven innocent sorry the. TTS got cut off there sweet by the way. guys do you like the new TTS voice we. changed it up we changed up the TTS. voice we will come back to that later in. a little bit but uh continue with your. point go ahead. um. I don't even remember what I was saying. but yeah I usually just stay at home. with my friends and that's what we do we. there really is I live in a hick town in.

sanina so there really isn't any. partying I don't live in IV where. there's like parties all the time even. though it would be nice to go to IV. but personally I'm 21 and I feel like. the majority of the people partying in. Ivy is like a lot more younger kids so. that's not what I'm doing and most of my. friends aren't 21 yet so I'm not really. going out to bars just yet but. um it it's more fun when you're like.

dressing up and like going out and like. you know like you're getting ready with. your friends you're pre-gaming and then. you're gonna go out you know it's just. more fun it's about the experience like. why would you I would much rather be. going out to the bar than being at my. house. okay yeah no. um I personally don't really enjoy House. parties or like going to parties here at. UCSB it's just not the environment but. every once in a while I do but when I go.

to clubs I go for the environment. um so it's usually like a club that I. really like to go to in my hometown. where they play music in Spanish and. they play reggaeton it's so. it really you really can't have a fun. night going to the club and the. environment's way different than just. being at home drinking with their. friends which I also do enjoy but both. of them can be like very fun. okay. um I'm not opposed to like hanging out. my friends at home or things like that I. do that frequently.

I think it's just like the process of. like getting excited you know pick out. an outfit do your hair do your makeup. all those things it adds to like I don't. know just the what you're gonna ghost. experience and I feel like most of the. time that's the funner part of it than. actually even going out okay. um yeah I personally do prefer like. really more chill kickbox with my. friends like I prefer that over a bar. experience most of the time but I would. say like it's a trade-off if you're. gonna go out like. you know like as you explained it might.

be easier in a lot of ways to just make. drinks at someone's house with friends. around but like you're trading that for. the convenience of having like drinks. made for you I guess or like the party. atmosphere is already there. um I don't know it I guess it just. depends on which you're willing to give. up okay go ahead. um yeah I agree with all all of them. um it's just the whole atmosphere of. getting ready to go out and that's the. fun part of it and going there and it's. a completely different atmosphere.

compared to throwing a party at home so. that's why I would prefer going out in. that sense. um personally I prefer staying at home. and doing that kind of thing but I think. the going out thing I understand the. experience and all that stuff and I. think it is fun as well to get dressed. up and go out and do things with your. friends but then there's the question of. who are you getting dressed up for and. what are you planning to do with all. that it's like you know because. sometimes girls will dress really you. know. revealing and it's like there's no need. for that unless you are wanting to dress.

that way to get attraction from the. opposite sex or whoever you're attracted. to. maybe that's for you but for me. personally I address the way I do maybe. that's what you consider provocative but. I dress that way for myself and I think. a lot of these ladies here are dressing. for themselves not for the attention of. another man maybe that might be the case. for you but for us personally that's not. the case. Okay so.

there's okay really quick I just want to. address what you just said so. you wear makeup for yourself correct. yeah well maybe girls here at the table. looks like you guys wear some makeup do. you wear makeup for yourself or do you. wear it for other people. about fun why didn't why because I like. doing my makeup it's fun I like for. artistic expression or no it's nice to. enhance your beauty I think I'm a very.

beautiful girl and I think even adding a. little bit more blush or some lip gloss. or okay let's let the other girls go. though but go ahead I think it makes me. feel better about myself okay and that's. an honest answer yeah I definitely don't. do it for anybody else but myself just. yourself okay. yeah just myself as well do it for. yourself yeah I only do it for myself. yes it gives me abusive confidence when. I feel better when I feel that I look. better Natasha. typically do it for other people to be.

honest well because okay well because. literally like when I go to work you. know you have to you have to present. yourself in a more professional manner. you have to present yourself in more put. together way and part of that the. expectation for women is to wear makeup. so you know there is an expectation on. women to do it I for sure believe that. but um so yeah I do it for other people. not for me. I have a question if it was like a. zombie apocalypse. this is like the dumbest [ __ ] example. ever let's say there's like a. catastrophic apocalyptic scenario where.

you're the last human alive on Earth but. all your survival needs are met this is. the most I don't even know why I'm doing. this most ridiculous scenario all your. survival needs are net let's say you got. a shelter or some [ __ ] so you're good. you're Survivor safety is intact get rid. of the zombies no zombies would you. still put on makeup if you're the only. person left on Earth. yes. please talk no yes definitely I mean.

once again we're doing it for herself. like I I feel more confident and I like. it and I feel like really last person on. there I would be having a Non-Stop. existential crisis. I'm gonna be the first thing that comes. to my mind but like if I have some. makeup make I'm bored why not yeah. zombie apocalypse I think my priorities. are going to be a little bit different. forget the Zombie Part forget you're I'm. in this ridiculous scenario your.

survival is uh your ability to survive. is fine you've got food you've got. shelter so you're you're just the last. person on Earth then yeah like if I have. time I'm going to it's like bruh what. you're still wearing makeup why it. doesn't mean what else am I gonna be. doing it's their beauty it's like nice. makeup you don't have to worry about. surviving okay this is a ridiculous sign. might as well go put some makeup on okay. question for you guys who should pay on. the first date.

men oh interesting okay go ahead and. we'll start here we'll go around go. ahead. I mean I think it's like the traditional. men pay but I would never mind splitting. the bill at all and I would I would. never mind paying for it myself either. okay sure I feel like it depends on like. who's asking who on a date. um but yeah I'm not gonna like it's a. nice thing for a guy to like pay like. it's definitely a plus but it's not it's. not like oh if you don't pay I'm never.

gonna speak to you have you ever paid. for a date. I have not okay but I wouldn't mind like. well you said what's your dollar limit. actually I did pay for a date actually. yes how much was it first date was it. the first day it wasn't a first date. okay. I'm talking first date here 80. well and. you also well I'll come back to this but. you said whoever asks so let's go around. the table and before I come in and okay. you give your take again go ahead.

um no I don't pay yeah you don't okay. why because I've never been in the. situation where I had to pay how many. if you had to estimate how many First. Dates have you been on. honestly. I've been asked out on dates I just. don't go because I don't think the guy. is gonna benefit me I don't think I'm. gonna benefit from maybe yeah free.

dinner or something but is am I Really. Gonna See Something further with this. man probably okay but so the question is. how many estimate how many First Dates. you've been on I don't know 10 23rd more. maybe like. yeah like 10 15. and all those times. that did the guy pay. okay. I'll come back to that but I want to go. around the table go ahead. um I think the guy should pay I.

usually would offer to split but it but. then how they react so if he's asking. just go ahead so if okay you offer but. if he takes you up on it you're gonna. feel salty about him taking you up on it. I'm not gonna be mad I'll do it but I'll. probably not consider a second date. because he took you up on your offer to. pay or to split rather. yeah because I don't really wanna if I.

want to be splitting. dates with someone I'll just go out with. my girlfriends. uh I'm not really following on that but. I guess my question is is why. why because often you hear women say. communication is really important but. when you're saying one thing but you. mean another. I mean I I realize I'm talking about a. first date well I I don't know you said. the guy but you said that you offer so I. realize it's a token offer it's not it's. like a polite gesture but if you do.

offer if you use your words and you say. something and then the guy men are very. overt communicators so we're like oh. okay cool and so if a guy were to take. you up on that be like okay we can. that's nice of her we'll split there. wouldn't be a second date. purely based off I believe so I've every. time I'm about for it to split it's. never happened. interesting okay let's move on go ahead. whoever asks whoever asks okay I always. come prepared just in case but I think.

whoever asks who on the date. I don't really care whether it's like a. super cheap date or something more. expensive like I think just the gesture. of being able to pay for the other. person is a really nice thing to like. for the receiver. I don't know oh okay we'll come back to. that too go ahead I think there's a lot. of stigma and a lot of pressure for guys. to pay on the first date so personally. for me I wouldn't mind the don't pay. um it'll be nice obviously for me like. if the guy paid I wouldn't mind I'll be.

nice however I think it is nice for the. girl to pay pay as well on the first. date personally I don't really I really. don't care like. um I I wanted to date a few days ago and. I paid for the first day um the whole. thing was split it's I'll be it was only. 12 bucks so okay but even calls more I. would definitely pay okay Natasha I. think it is really kind and respectful. for the girl to offer but the men should. step up and do it okay I have a slightly. interesting take on this um. so you said that uh men should pay.

why. I don't know it's just my opinion if the. man is asking me out. um then yeah I think he should pay if. I'm asking him out I don't know I should. not really still pay no I don't think. I've never asked a guy out well there. you go okay so I've never been in the. situation where I've even had to pretend. to get my wallet out it's always been. the man but but we're suing okay I guess. and I just prefer it that way yeah I'd.

prefer a man who takes action and is. kind of. I don't know I wouldn't want to say like. I don't even know a good word to put it. but I'd want him to be like. just taking action being a man I guess. being the leader yeah no not really the. leader but just being a man and stepping. up and. um. doing his manly stepping up and not. being the leader being doing his manly. doing his manly duties that's what I.

mean equality when it benefits them but. um Okay so. so. I want to bring it back to this so. foreign. a few of you said whoever asks right. so those of you who said whoever asks. should pay I think it was you. who said whoever asked should pay was it. you you okay have you ever asked a guy. out. no I haven't. okay what about you.

oh I didn't say where. well who's uh a lot of you. um not for the first date. wait okay so you've never yeah I'm. talking about first date have you ever. asked a guy out for the first date no. okay who said whoever asks one of you. two okay well I mean it's certainly. convenient to say whoever asked should. pay. when you've never asked a guy out your. answer may as well be men should pay but. uh. do you think you said men should pay do. you think one of the reasons men should.

pay is because women spend more time and. perhaps more money getting ready than. men do. I don't know well I'm speaking like. makeup for example women will typically. put on makeup before a date or as men. don't do you think. men are obligated to pay because we get. ready for them is that why I've heard. that argument from some women before. that I don't know me personally I just. would I mean I don't know it's different. for every other girl but me personally I. would just rather have the men pay. because it's kind of showing what man he.

is if he's saying like oh like. sorry nine dollars. question to Banks how can you complain. about women being oppressed when you. want men to pay for the date the. cognitive dissonance is insane send the. asteroid hold on wait. there it is okay. um. so do you want to respond to the TTS. [Music].

well I have the. I have been oppressed there's literally. like laws trying to ban abortion that's. oppression in itself there's systemic. oppression there's it's been that way. forever she's okay why do I even have to. explain that oppression like why do I. have to prove to you guys that. oppression so you're are you oppressed. I mean I I'm I'm here to stand up for a. woman that are oppressed yeah I don't. like what I don't know I feel like I'm.

kind of getting picked on here well I'm. just asking you some questions so uh. it's okay would you describe yourself as. a feminist yes. yeah so how do you do you believe in. gender equality. yeah of course okay so how do you. reconcile believing in gender equality. but also holding men to their. traditional gender roles of paying for. the first date. well I'm I'm just saying that's my. personal view a woman can being a.

feminist is just doing whatever you want. to do and not being bashed by Society. for that and uh obviously like like. um standing up for like women's like. rights and stuff like that but when it I. don't know I just feel like this. question's really dense if I'm being. honest well I'm just asking you you said. that you you almost very knee-jerk when. I asked who should pay you said that men. should pay immediately right so my. question is if you believe in gender.

equality don't you think you ought to. split the bill on the first date. um no because my main concern with. gender equality is through like yes in. society like fixing that and through. like the system but yeah I don't oh my. God hold on you just like try to keep a. straight history please try to keep a. straight face John. no I'm done talking no no go ahead I'm. done talking I'm done if he's gonna be.

making faces I don't feel comfortable. and I I don't want to. I'm not backing down I just don't feel. comfortable when he's making faces he. already disrespected me called me a. [ __ ] when I never once disrespected him. so I already know because I will make up. if he gives me a proper manly apology be. a man and apologize you you say that you. be a man and apologize come on for. disrespecting me and calling me a [ __ ]. I'm don't say it again.

oh Jesus Christ suppressing babies by. underlining them enough said he he get. wrecked. this conversation has been derailed okay. so. um. John John claims he's sober but but he. he drank quite heavily before the show.

okay. so disregard disregard his uh let's try. to keep things respectful if you dis. disagree with someone let's not started. bringing the disrespect I stayed. respectful this whole time it's been his. issue. okay so just talk to me though I've been. respectful to you so yeah let's let's. have a dial I want to have a dialogue. with you so. my question was you you were talking. about feminism and gender equality so I.

just kind of want to get to the Crux of. that so. it's the same when you say that it's. giving the same argument oh if a woman. hits me feminism gender equality I can. hit her back that's good that's it's. giving that that's what you're giving. um what wait that same argument when men. are like oh like equal fights or equal. rights equal fights that's what you're. kind of giving right now. um well that's not what I said but I. mean I'm I would be prepared to say that.

if a woman is physically assaulting you. uh or if anyone is physically assaulting. you regardless of their sex or gender. you're perfectly within your right to. defend yourself that is true that well. how do you recognize I'm just saying. that argument in total is. dumb and. and just like your question because. well now now who's being a bit insulting. okay I do apologize so I was insulting. and it's fine not want to insult you. because you haven't been disrespectful I.

don't it takes a lot to offend me so. um I said your question was not you so. oh God these guys are I think you can. hide that I think a TTS is going to come. up here so okay. there's a lot to touch on here so okay. 49.99 oh God maybe he'd be respectful if. you respected babies lives. we have a wide range of viewers for our.

show we have some uh people on a pro. pro-choice pro-life we're not going to. talk about that really during the show. but okay so wait what's the thing with. equal lefts equal rights you're saying. if a woman equal I said it's like I've. heard the argument a lot like oh like. whenever we talk about Mom and decide to. talk about feminism men always decide to. bring up oh equal rights equal fights. which means why why is that the first. thing that comes to mind when we talk. about equality I'm just not no I'm just.

that's low on the list but I mean I. think no I'm just saying it comes off a. lot uh not I don't think it comes up too. much in the whole discourse I've I have. heard that term but I mean ultimately I. don't think you should hit regardless of. your gender sex you should not. physically assault or hit anyone yeah. and if you're a woman hold on though if. you're a woman and you hit a man you. should be prepared to potentially be hit. back like.

I'm not saying you should not assault. you should what I'm not saying that I. feed a man um I'm just but you should no. I know that I know what you're saying I. know what you're saying but that you're. like kind of missing the point of what. I'm trying to say I'm just saying that. whenever women decided to talk about. feminism a really big argument men. decide or like oh okay like equal rights. equal fights but like why would you. bring that up men just want like a. reason to. use violence or have violence against.

women if a woman. like hey you how can you how can we. oppress the women today bud let's use. some violence too let's lift up some. tables and put it around them trap them. in there I mean it it you're kind of. maneuvering around my original thing but. if if a woman is trying to stab me I'm. going to. prevent her try to prevent her from. doing that and if that requires physical. Force I will use physical Force to. defend myself all right you're missing.

the plan I don't want to keep talking. about it well okay I want to bring it. back to back to the who should pay on. the first date thing though okay so yes. I did say men I do you should mention. okay and that's fine that you believe. that because I don't think I really. don't think I have to like even explain. myself that's just what I think men. should pay and yes I am a feminist and. that's okay to think that that be a. feminist and believe that a man should. pay on the first date but okay if you. believe in gender equality which is the. supposed.

tenet of feminism which is questionable. but how do you reconcile believing in. gender equality but also holding men to. their traditional gender roles that men. should pay on the first date. I don't even know I'm just saying. flexible when it benefits her so okay do. you want equality only when it benefits. you. I want equality all the time what are.

you talking about it's not even about. equality more it's more about equity and. fairness I feel like. well you said Equity. um go ahead and defend equity and. fairness and converting regards to. equality go ahead. Okay so. chats because we have quite a few super. chats here all right guys get your super. chats in 20 and up. all right we got Frankie K here what up. Brian Big Ups MLD even then ladies to. the panel why is it so important to you.

to sleep around so much before you. settle down uh and what characteristics. do you think high value men are looking. for in a potential wife uh that second. question is good you think so oh yeah I. was almost gonna say let's just do one. of them but um why is it so important. for you to. uh I mean we can go around the table if. any of you want to answer this. Lexi. someone else go first okay Natasha when. we ER actually no let's have a Natasha. go. do you want do you have an answer or no.

first questions why do women feel they. need to sleep around so much before they. settle down second question is what. characteristics do you think a high. value man are looking for in a potential. wife. okay so I don't think it is important to. sleep around so much before settling. down uh for me like hooking up with. someone or just having sex with that. person it should be like I want to get. to know them first and having a. connection before doing anything so for.

me it's really not important. um what was the second question and then. what are the characteristics do you. think a high value man looks for in a. potential wife I would say definitely. like loyal smart respectful and uh. caring okay some good stuff. um. what was the question why do women sleep. around or before they said yeah I'll. pull it back up okay um why is it so. important to you to sleep around so much.

I mean Frankie yeah Frankie is making a. bit of assumption here but and the other. question is what characteristics do you. think high value men are looking for in. a potential wife. ask somebody that is going to. somebody that maybe would be a good mom. if that's what you're looking for if. you're usually people get married and. have children so maybe if you're looking. for a potentially good mother. I guess okay.

um it's not important to me I. it yeah it's not important for me to. sleep I almost think we need to. disregard this first question because. it's just a bit of an assumption here. let's just do this the last one what do. you think high value men are looking for. in a potential wife try to keep your. answer short guys go ahead. um I think like loyalty caring like good. communication because obviously you're. not always going to agree on everything. that you say but as long as you're able. to communicate that you can come to like.

agreements and stuff. I think the characteristics men look for. is the ones that the women should be. looking for in their men as well you. know. that makes sense would you like to list. a few. um well personally I like someone who. takes care of themselves you know can I. I'm an athletic person I like to go out. and I find that important to someone uh. respect I don't like to be disrespected. um just like basic things like that. caring communication is a big one things. like that.

just someone with like similar values to. them like someone who's able to. reciprocate whatever values that are. very deep seated for that person Cynthia. I think the big underlying thing is. definitely commitment so I'd say that's. my main one Natasha the question is what. are high value men looking for in women. all right I would say one the ability to. bring him peace in his life two I would. say loyalty three respect and then I. would also say modesty plays a little. bit of a part in it.

um. and yeah I would say that John your. thoughts. I think Natasha gave the best answer. okay personally just a guy. the high value man is a guy that is. going out in the world on a day-to-day. basis and like having to fight the world. having to fight you know whether it be. clients or the judicial system or the. government or you know neighbors or. whatever the case may be he's got to go. out there to make a livelihood for.

himself and then bring it home take care. of his home whether it be him his. girlfriend wife mother father whatever. the case may be. so he needs a woman that is going to be. like by his side that is going to hold. him down through thick and thin like. when tough when tough times come you. want a chick that's going to be there. for you when things are really bad you. want a chick that's going to be there. for you when it's really good but when. it's really good it's easy everybody's. there for you know it's really good but. when you're down and out that's when you. see who your real friends are and if.

you're with a girl and she seems shaky. in a time of your life where you're like. down and out and you see like she's. trying to look around to get out. it's a red flag to give her the boot. it's not a good one you want people that. are going to hold you down in this life. you don't want people that are going to. betray you'll be fickle. so thank you Frankie for the soup chat. plan live Canadian 20 hey thank you by. the way Flynn Andrew thank you for all. the gifted memberships appreciated man. uh I have a confession I'm in love with. a man and his name is God does that make. me.

okay thank you plan life uh Isaac George. 20 soup chat appreciate it thank you man. uh you can send a message next time. everyone or thank you for just uh. supporting the show appreciate it. Michael thank you for the 20 soup chat I. finally made the live stream your short. clips brought me here I like the videos. you post and the questions for these. women the guy in the suit what standards. do Japanese women have that differ from. Western women good questions you want to. go ahead John Japanese women are very. feminine they're very demure they're. very modest they're not combative. they're not trashy they're not outspoken.

and loud and obnoxious. they. are very honorable women in the sense. that they don't just do something and. think like oh what is this effect gonna. have on me they think oh what is this. going to make my dad look like what is. this going to make my mom look like what. is this gonna make my grandma look like. was this gonna make my uncle look like. so that's really good girl to have. around a woman that considers what her. actions are going to affect not only her. but everybody around her. sweet all right we have oh wait hold on.

um we had a. we did this one right okay. yo Nico thank you for the 20 Super Chat. I just went through this and let my ex. go party and she got drunk and kissed. another dude I told her she was partying. too much and she got mad there goes five. plus years yeah. um. we oh we didn't really finish off too. much on the whole uh partying Club thing. I might want to give a dream world a. hypothetical scenario to kind of. articulate why a lot of guys have issues. with their significant other partying. and going to clubs and bars and stuff.

because the experience of men and women. when they go to a nightclub or a bar or. a party is very very different so sorry. to hear about the basically the demise. of your five-year plus relationship. that's unfortunate. um I will come back to the I'll do the. dream world hypothetical scenario uh. Cowtown thank you for the Canadian 28. thank you man John you are the goat put. that 304 in her place okay uh let's see. we have Martin here uh yep oh this one. came in this TTS Martin thank you for.

the big 50 Super Chat man appreciate it. uh let's see here we have Flynn live can. we get the W for super on the chat there. we go we have uh uh Abdel yeah a AED. Sensei MLD demonstrating mmgf no idea. what that is oh there we go okay. and then we have Spencer Neiman 20 soup. chat how do you manage to always find. the least software people have on your. stream. uh that lives in California. all right Alvin Sam 50 by the way uh.

like uh okay hold on uh we have Alvin. okay we this one came in this TTS we uh. addressed it. uh TTS thank you TTS thank you Spencer. really sensor thank you for all the uh. that was holy [ __ ] man you sense a lot. oh damn it's a lot of TTS man thanks uh. bernito sandriguez Hey thank you man 20. Super Chat the man's responsibility is. pay on the first date be a leader and. take charge in the relationship the. ladies in the panel even said so earlier. so what's the woman's responsibility.

then that's an interesting question so. um. a man's typically what men do at the. early stages of the relationship is to. court a woman you know initiate. approach ask you out on the date set it. up pay for the date. what is a woman expected to do to. develop and build a relationship early. on let's start with you Lexi. I think there has to be a mutual effort. to create a good relationship I mean men.

do for the most part pay for the first. date and things like that but I think. both sides in the relationship no matter. if you're a man or a woman or a woman. and a woman. just working on building an emotional. connection I think it's important. whether that has anything to do with. Finance or. you know anything I just I honestly just. think that if both people are working to. respect each other and trust each other. and form a good relationship I don't. really think it matters who takes charge. and.

okay. I agree with her on that and definitely. like commitment I would say both have to. be really committed to each other and. put the same effort into like pleasing. each other. sure. um yeah I have to agree I mean just. do you I guess. do you want to elaborate on the do you. no I don't want to elaborate what.

is it everything cool. yeah everything's cool I just don't. really know how to answer. them sure that's fine go ahead I'm sorry. what was the question. here I'll pull it back up let me see if. I can find it. um. oh so okay if typically in terms of a. guy what he's expected to do early on in. the relationship is what are the women's. roles in a relationship and she said do. you is the woman's role in a. relationship yeah I haven't really been.

in many really I've been in one serious. relationship I feel like I can't really. speak on that well I mean maybe I can. speak on my experience but I was very. young I was 19. it wasn't really like a. healthy healthy relationship it was my. first relationship what did I contribute. to it not much if I'm gonna be honest. that's why I ended it I didn't think I. we were both healthy enough for each. other wait you ended it because you. weren't contributing enough well I I.

feel like both people have to contribute. into a relationship make each other grow. was I growing was he growing not really. I feel like I wasn't really he wasn't. putting much into it I wasn't putting. much into it it was kind of dead for not. for the whole part obviously there's a. bark. to every relationship but I don't know. with my experience just dating hasn't. really. gone I mean like. relationships haven't really.

I don't know I just not really for me I. guess as of right now or where back then. I haven't really tried to pursue another. relationship I just do me okay so the. question is. guys are typically expected to court. women approach women pay for dates take. initiative lead Etc et cetera protector. yeah so what are women expected to do to. build a relationship early on. um I think just someone that is like.

caring and just shows that can be there. for you and I also think that it goes. like both ways to someone that you can. be with that encourages encourages you. to grow and I also think it's really. important to not be with someone that is. dependent. okay. um just overall like support. um in every aspect. um I think also just like putting. establishing your expectations from the. get-go because it kind of changes how.

the relationship is going to proceed if. they don't establish that in the. beginning. I agree I think it's especially. important to establish. expectations from the get-go and just. overall reciprocating I think is. important for both parties. I think anything that the man can. provide in the relationship the female. should as well. I would say that a woman's. responsibility is to One support the man.

and also you know nurture the things. that he can't nurture in his active you. know work world or with his guy friends. you know he she brings the other side of. him out which is very important for a. man sometimes they're not really allowed. to do that in other relationships so I. think that that's something really. important that women are allowed to do. or that women can do or not supposed to. do John what do you think. um kind of like what she said which is. just a woman's role which is like you. know the feminine nurturing caring role.

that's what I think. majority of guys when we dated one would. we look for I don't want some combative. [ __ ] chick to be in my household like. I come home she's like what have you. been and all it like I don't want to. come home to that I gotta go out I gotta. work all day if my my woman when she's. with me everything's taken care of. okay when we go out it's handled never. like oh baby you have 10 bucks nothing. like that it's handled. okay I'm gonna sort everything we're.

gonna go to the nicest restaurants we're. gonna do the nicest vacation else we're. gonna take care of everything but. I can't come home to like a dirty house. and be like you know. you're argumentative or yelling at me or. not like I feel like you're not on the. same team as me. and I mean I want a girl that's on the. same side as me I want to run away from. my problems in the world and come home. to my house and close my door and know. that my woman's gonna be able to pave. this [ __ ] this [ __ ] was terrible.

today this [ __ ] was awful she's like who. was it how can I help you that's what I. want behind the scenes and I think when. a lot of women and this is not to. trigger anybody but I think a lot of. women nowadays they take like them doing. their feminine. nurturing role as like a type of. Oppression and it's not it's just like. if like if I was married to any of you. girls here and in the middle of the. night I hear the door break open I'm not. gonna be like all right babe it was your. term equality like go get them you know.

it lets me going down there and I'm. gonna handle it I mean I agree with you. like the nurturing thing it's really. hard to be a mom like that's a big job. and stuff but um you you're talking. about like this whole peace aspect women. also want that piece just like well I. was just summing it up the peace aspect. you know you don't want to come home to. things like that women also want that as. well so it shouldn't be a reason. the woman shouldn't be given a reason to. feel like there's [ __ ] like there isn't. a mutual understanding where she feels. like oh I need to ask you this and you. feel like it's like no no I didn't say.

I'm like oh no I'm just like adding to. that yeah yeah I agree I agree. cool all right we have a chat here from. Stiffler ask everyone to write their. looks on a scale of one to ten we'll. start over here go ahead Lexi. me okay. I'm out to like eight. all right. I'm a 10 and every girl here is a 10. okay we'll we'll let the girls go but. okay let them speak for themselves well. yeah thank you.

I think I'm a nine. I believe I'm gonna eat there's room for. improvement everywhere okay. eight. solid 8.5. 7 8. he says everyone so I guess we gotta. rate ourselves John do you wanna I give. myself a seven all right I give myself. like six six point nine on a good day. you know but uh so. okay you gave yourself a 10. yeah and.

you said every girl here should also. think that they're a 10. yeah because. I'm looking at a room full of very. beautiful women right now and I think we. should all think that we're beautiful. and I don't think we should rate. ourselves like look who's asking us to. rate ourselves. come on don't Stiffler no no no the boys. on the chat boys are in the chat well. I'll have you know Stifler that whoever. that guy is he uh. he's he's a handsome guy Stephen. Stiffler the stiffmeister. don't know who that is you don't know.

the stiff Meister. I'm still saying I don't really think we. should braid ourselves like I don't know. I feel like. just say you're a 10 you're all. beautiful have you ever played that game. he's a 10 but. he wears flip-flops have you ever played. that game yeah I guess oh oh oh okay so. yeah that's interesting so okay. um. you think we shouldn't you shouldn't. rate yourselves.

she has an opinion on everything. I just I don't know you guys are just. kind of like asking you because I. decided to say I'm a 10 and every girl. here is a 10 do you guys not think every. girl here is the time certainly not no. okay then that's your opinion but from. my eyes I think every girl here is. beautiful right so your opinion must be. more than ours got it. I'm not saying your opinion I think all. the girls here are attractive but like. if if you're asking me to be honest and. I wouldn't I would never rate you.

individually but like. I'm gonna be honest please don't take. this the wrong way and I don't think I'm. a 10. I gave myself six six point nine. there's no tens at the table. I think you're wrong I think from your. eyes yeah that from but I think. okay so look there's so do you think. it's like a confidence thing or you just. you should be confident in yourself yes. because I mean there's a difference. between confidence and thinking that. you're on par with the most beautiful. women in the world who are supermodels.

and on the front of magazine covers yeah. yeah so I'm not a 10 because I'm not on. a magazine cover. you could be you could be a 10 and not. be. a model however. you are if you're a 10 you are as. attractive as women who are the most. beautiful women in the world who are. mammals. I think yeah I believe I'm a 10 look at. me I'm a catch.

don't you think it's a bit of uh hubris. why do you want me to rate myself lower. well I mean you're free to I suppose. you're free. myself I'm not planning on forcing you. to I know but it kind of like by the way. that you're talking to me it kind of. seems like you're it kind of telling me. I'm not a 10 which is fine that's your. own opinion but you asked me to rate. myself and I'm being honest I think I'm. a 10. if well okay if I said I was a 10. that would put me on par with Brad Pitt.

when he was young with Leonardo when he. was young I don't know if Leo was a 10. in his prime was Leo 10 in his prime I. don't know he was a babe. um it's just like I gotta just say. whatever she wants me to say the whole. show. it seems like don't you think it's a big. a bit egotistical to him think you're a. 10.

I think everyone has different. opportunity to fifty dollars this girl. needs to understand that you can judge. yourself objectively versus subjectively. I can love myself but also be realistic. about how I look if emphatim obviously. not a 10. response to dank naked that's true any. response to dank naked there are. objective measurements to Beauty. yeah but in my eyes I think in my eyes I.

think I'm a 10. right that's why I said. objectively yeah you're said subjective. so that's what in your eyes that's what. subjective means so okay you're a 10. then. do you think you deserve a guy who's a. 10. um I feel like I don't really go for. guys that I don't know honestly I don't. really to be honest I feel like I like. them a little bit uglier. okay that's fine whenever I see a guy. that is really attractive I do think wow.

that guy is really attractive but. um I'm not like necessarily like I want. to pursue him you know I feel like it. takes me a while like I feel like I. don't really just see it and be like oh. my gosh I need to have him it's always. been like okay like I talk to him like. it's more like their personality too you. know okay yeah there's definitely not. all about looks it's about personality. there's a lot of other factors but I. guess I guess what I'm trying to get at. is if you view yourself as a 10 then.

and let's say you're let's say you're. not actually a 10 then aren't you isn't. that going to have an impact on the. types of men that you're going to pursue. because if you're not a 10 but you think. you're a 10 you're going to go after. guys who are tens. thus. you're going to be chasing after men. that are say for example. I'm never going to get a well I'm never. going to get a Victoria's Secret model.

although they've been doing some weird. things with the Victoria Secret models. but let's say a Victoria's Secret model. like 10 years ago Adriana Lima some. I'm not getting Adriana Lima. it doesn't matter if I think I'm a 10. I'm not getting her so you I guess what. I'm trying to get at is are you putting. yourself in the position to be let down. when the men you want. don't want you. um no because yeah I've been rejected.

but I. I don't know I'm just I I feel like I. already explained that I feel like I'm. not really like attracted attracted to. very very good looking man yes I have. seen very very good looking men and yeah. maybe some of them have asked me out but. I haven't pursued them because I not. really that attracted to them I think. they are yes I've seen a guy and I'm. like wow this is like society's like. view of like a really attractive guy I. get that but personally for me I don't.

know I just I think every girl can say. that she likes her man a little ugly. that your man has to be a little bit. ugly I think concur do you concur yes I. think if I'm with someone I think you're. a 10. yeah and that's true if I'm with. you my view of you is gonna be so highly. of you I'm not gonna be thinking like oh. yeah like my recording is kind of like a. three a seven no I'm gonna be saying my. man's a 10. you know.

I mean. you want okay so you want a guy who's a. 10. can you think of a can can you think. of like a famous guy who's a 10. Michael B Jordan Michael B Jordan yeah. okay all right so. are you you think you got a shot with. maybe Michael B Jordan maybe I feel like. I'm a little young.

but I don't know. okay. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse. here a little bit um you so you had an. issue with the rating thing. um let me ask you have a hype preference. for men. yeah I guess maybe like six. six color but it's not not really. something that's like oh he has to be. six foot just the guys that I have. talked to just happen to be six over six. foot. okay so you're talking about like you're. the boyfriends or people you've hooked.

up with. they've all been six feet yeah or taller. how tall yeah I'm fresh too you're five. two and you want them to be six feet I. don't want them to but it just happens. to be the case that all the guys you've. gotten yeah but I don't really. really for a guy and be like oh my gosh. she has to be. I'm not trying to pursue I feel like. you're what you're trying what you're. getting from me is that I'm trying to. pursue a guy but that's never really. been the case for me I'm not going out. of my way trying to look for a guy and.

looking at all these things that he. needs to have it's just happened. for me well only okay only 15 of the. population is six feet or above so I. guess I just know something it just. happens to be the case that okay yeah I. guess I just would you would you did a. guy who's shorter than you. um if he treats me really right yeah but. at the same time I don't want to be. crying over no shorty. if I'm being honest. okay all right. um I feel like every guy is taller than. me I'm five well you're five two so yes.

am I really going to be crying over a. guy that's five tuned no yes most men. will probably be taller than you but. yeah but you you said that you had an. issue with the rating thing like we. shouldn't be rating right yeah but I. mean. hold on let me come back to that do you. have a height preference. you'll date he'll tell you. I'm five seven would you date a guy. shorter than you. yeah he's the guy. okay all right go ahead. I mean I definitely prefer a little.

taller than me I'm five seven I'm pretty. tall but. I mean it's not gonna stop me from. dating whoever. I don't have a height preference but I. would prefer someone that's not shorter. than me you said you have a boyfriend. right now yeah how tall is he. I don't know. it's just a little taller than me okay. I prefer taller guys how tall are you uh. five three five three and when you say. taller guys do you have a minimum six. feet. um five ten five ten okay.

I don't really care but sure just. someone who's taller than me honestly. honestly like if I'm being honest guys. because I'm 5'2 guys who are over six. feet freak me out to date I feel like I. don't want to feel like their child but. that I know that like other people don't. feel that way and that's fine I just. I've always felt awkward sure that's. good it's good some hope for the guys in. the chat yeah there you go I have a. boyfriend so no okay no not for you just. in general not not to hit on you cool.

um I've typically found myself more. attracted to guys who are taller than. taller than me so I would say taller how. tall are you I'm five two so when you. say taller than you do you have a. minimum. um do you have a preference for tall. guys six feet Plus usually I'd say like. five nine five ten would be the minimum. but it's really it's not that important. okay. taller than me. okay. um. taller than you.

how tall are you five seven. okay. so I. you don't have a high preference though. correct. I mean yeah I'd prefer them to be taller. than me but I'm also five two but okay. if I'm gonna go back to my dating. history or then yeah every guy has been. taller than or over six foot yes. okay. I was going to kind of tie that up to. the rating thing because I mean if you. have a height preference.

that is literally a numerical. measurement of a male's supposed. attractiveness it's literally a. measurement so just tying it back to the. writing thing so I mean I feel like when. you ask us to rate ourselves I feel like. it's mostly for these guys on here to be. like oh she's reading herself a ten no. she's a three she's a five that's my. problem with it because you're asking us. to rate ourselves. right here where these people are going. to judge us and just pick us down for.

saying anything. that's that's kind of my problem with it. if I'm being honest well I think if. if. their sense of your rating aligns with. your own self-assessment I don't think. they would intentionally. try to Peg you down but. I bet everybody has their own 10 is like. a perfect 10. not just I don't know I. just feel like you're really bothered. with me braiding myself at 10. well it's. something about confidence kind of you. don't like that well there's okay.

there's a difference between confidence. and something insecure. there's a difference between confidence. and basically thinking you're on par. with the most attractive women in the. world. okay like you can be confident and. self-assured and still have a reasonable. self-assessment of your own physical. attractiveness why would it be like. an empty I rate myself a seven or a six. maybe why would I do that to myself if. I'm gonna be confident be like no I am a.

10. okay well that's delusion. it's just it's just delusion like. maybe we have different views about. confidence not only confidence well like. yeah. okay I go outside and I see 10 beautiful. women. it takes me like two to three years to. find a good attractive man okay so is. every everyone's a 10 correct every. woman I feel like a lot of women are.

yeah oh a lot so not all women are tens. like most women are most most women are. tens what about most men. I honestly don't know oh I don't I'm not. like to be honest I'm not like going out. and being like Oh yeah I am saying like. I do see a cute guy and I'm like oh that. guy's pretty hot but like. I don't I'm not like that guy's like I. want to date him you know.

so what person do you want to give us a. percentages on this. on what like how many women do you think. are. tenses I'm not good with math or. percentages why would I do that to. myself I'm gonna embarrass myself. oh would you hold on wait hide that. oh okay. no hide this uh no oh God okay hold on. you're not good with math. okay. um oh Carson I guess you pulled up the. Instagram tab sure we can look at it why.

not. all right this is a cure this is. Carson's. um favorited list of of girls just. scroll down. uh yeah this is what Carson thinks these. girls are like solid nines and tens and. stuff keep scrolling definitely up there. keep scrolling keep scrolling just keep. scrolling. all right so you know. anyways I don't want to hammer on too. long on this one I've already kind of. beat a horse to death but uh.

anyways thank you Carson for pulling. that up and accessing your Instagram. um Okay so. let's move on here let me get some super. chats. all right we have uh do we do. Miss sweetie shorty thank you for the. Canadian 20 soup shout out I saw chat. ask this would you be okay to go to a. girl's only bar also if they existed. would the men be okay with the girl. partying if it was girls only love your. show how do I apply to be on it thank. you hey Miss sweetie shorty uh send us a.

DM on Instagram at whatever and we can. coordinate on that so the question is. would you be okay to go to a girls only. bar I don't know if those really exist. I think that's probably against the law. actually. girls girls only bar would the girls. even go I mean girls only bar I just. don't think women who drink like that. it's not a good it's not good for. building something long term. would the men be okay with the girl. partying if it was girls only.

yeah well so I don't really drink so. definitely for me. like if if the Girl I'm dating if she. drinks a lot if she parties it's just. not. it's just there's no reciprocity there's. no match there for me um no need it's. it's like yeah all right we have uh dark. fire 20 Super Chat I've lived it in. Japan for four years been to over 10. Asian cities to all my passport Bros. choose the right City don't go picking. up girls from big cities with clubs like. Tokyo. yokozuka. Yokosuka Okay Beijing.

okay. um. is that do you agree with this because. you're in Tokyo right yeah uh yeah the. the city cities are not good for dating. in general if you're looking to like. find like a good faithful woman like. cities are just not cities are not. conducive for. healthy relationships in general you. know you want to get out of those places. sure all right we have uh. Vagisil 69 okay buddy uh 20 Super Chat.

thank you man I've been kept from my son. and I'm fighting for him now how do they. feel about men being kept from their. kids and there's a difference and. there's a difference from confidence and. delusional okay. um it that's not it's semi-related to. dating. I'd. well I mean there are unjust laws yes. overly benefit women as if it was like. the 1950s and those laws need to be. brought up to date you know yeah I mean. there's definitely discrimination. against men in the family court system. for sure.

I yeah so uh sorry to hear you've been. kept from your son though yeah that's. tough custody disputes is uh not good I. definitely think they need a rework uh. the laws in the United States when it. comes to uh custody I think it should be. assumed split 50 50 custody uh if. there's any uh divorce or whatever so. sorry to hear about that man um okay so. moving on. I wanted to open it up to to you guys is.

there something dating related that. you'd like to get off your chest maybe. something that frustrates you about. dating. men are pissing you off in some way. anything you'd maybe you'd like to get. advice on something related to dating. let's start with you Lexi go ahead. okay all right what about you. okay. I have some advice oh well more so if. you were asking for advice but oh if. we're asking for advice yeah if there's.

like a situation you want advice on but. nah what's what's your advice oh my. advice is that usually I kind of see. this with friends or just even on Tick. Tock there's a lot of girls complaining. about like oh my man does this my man. does that like negative things that. their man does you know and I think that. the problem is is that we're choosing. shitty men and I feel like if we just. stop. giving men [ __ ] I feel like I feel like.

they're gonna change their ways maybe. possibly because I feel like men I don't. know for [ __ ] I feel like they'll do it. they will do anything for [ __ ] and if I. feel like if we stop sleeping with men. and stop doing casual hookups and stuff. I feel like it'll. kind of put men in their place maybe if. we don't hook up with them and without. expect or like without being like oh. y'all hook up with you but like no. relationship you know. because then it's just giving them an.

excuse to be shitty men. you know what I'm saying. so you're saying that men are just. shitty by default no I think that that's. exactly what you just said no I'm saying. that it's literally exactly what you. just said we enable a lot of be a lot of. shitty Behavior we kind of like almost. excuse a lot of shitty Behavior I feel. like as a woman you can do that a lot. and where I feel like. the problem I don't know if we're gonna. talk about this like right now but like.

hook up culture sure we can talk about. hookup culture I was just gonna say that. the reason why the reason why I did. partake in hookup culture and I didn't I. didn't gain anything from it okay and I. know. well maybe there maybe some girls are. gaining something like sexual pleasure. and that's okay do whatever you want but. for the most part if you're engaging in. hookup culture to find a man or a. boyfriend you're not gonna find one. because when you're hooking up with this. guy with no strings attached you're.

already giving him everything needed. in a relationship without the commitment. so what he's gaining stuff there and. you're not gaining anything you're just. giving him [ __ ] basically wow that's a. interesting view on sex but um. not just sex so you when you have sex. with someone you're not getting anything. out of it Well yeah if I'm doing it for. like my own sexual pleasure then yeah. but am I really going in and being like.

wow I want to date this guy no I'm just. doing it for sexual pleasure I guess. well I don't think you're wrong that. hookup culture is. unfulfilling and a bad thing. but. you're saying you should. not hook up with shitty men that's what. I'm saying I agree with you you actually. want a relationship stop hooking up with. shitty men that's what I'm saying that.

is the point why why is it that women. are attracted to shitty men because if. you're such a 10 why can't you why can't. you size up these shitty men and stop. dating them because there's a lot of. shitty men out there. at home with my parents I live in a very. very small hick town like most of the. people that I date are people that I've. gone to high school with and that I know. a lot of stuff about and like already. and like I don't know I just.

I don't. really want to engage in it anymore I. guess. you're insanian as you said yeah yeah. it's kind of it's close to Santa Maria. so that's kind of like. a little iffy okay but Sandy Nez is very. different from it is different it is but. there isn't any meant that to me I'd. even want to have sex with because it's. not worth it for me because what am I. gaining there I feel like they're. gaining more how are they getting more.

they're getting [ __ ] and you're nine. times out of ten these guys aren't. making me finish. okay. so why am I doing it for their pleasure. well I agree you shouldn't be. having casual hookups uh well I mean. people are free to do whatever they want. but I don't think it's particularly. fulfilling and the sex is typically not. particularly rewarding as you have. admitted but uh.

um. okay so she's your guest bro this is all. you yeah yeah okay so. so have are you still doing the hookup. culture thing or are you kind of checked. out I've stopped doing that for a while. now okay so you're over it yeah because. all you're giving the [ __ ] away. for me I was what it was I getting out. of it nothing really I was just doing. pretty much all the relationship stuff.

relationship stuff without having a. committed relationship so no I'm not. gonna engage in that anymore yeah I. guess there's there's times where I had. like you know like oh like a random. hookup but. I don't I feel like I've kind of felt. like [ __ ] after if I'm being honest. because I'm doing it maybe for my. personal reason maybe to not feel alone. that at the time and it's okay to be. alone and you don't have to find sex to. like not feel lonely you know.

it's okay to be by yourself and not. engage in hookup culture because I know. a lot of discourses like oh women or not. even woman like men specifically are. always engaging in hookup culture and. then like when a woman engages in hookup. culture it's like oh she's a [ __ ] she's. this she's that bit men they've been. doing it forever only us very small. percentage of men have access to hook up. culture minority of men yeah very small.

amount of men unequal amount yeah to. women so most unequal as in the number. is not the same most men most men don't. have access to hookup culture an average. guy. he can't easily just go and hook up with. three girls a week they're ugly. but his. let's say he's average let's say he's. not even ugly let's say he's an average. looking guy. he can't just hook up with three new. girls a week unless he's bringing like.

mad game status or has money but that's. an even smaller percentage of that's not. an average that's that's not average but. speaking just looks average men do not. have access to hook up culture whereas. like 90 of women have access to hook up. culture average women can hook up super. easy whereas average men can't. so basically 80 of the women are all. chasing after the top 10 top 20 percent. of men.

so. yeah I agree with you though the hookup. culture is bad for people everybody in. jail the number one people who suffer. the most from hookup culture is women. I agree with that. yeah that's because it's objectively. true. cool. Okay so. you you mentioned the double standard. yeah there is a lot of double standards. there are yeah okay we don't we like we. can't disagree on that there is a lot of.

double standards yeah for men and women. for men and women okay like guys on only. fans make virtually nothing. equals to see that that's on that's. that's where's the quality there's no. equality it's unfortunate equal pay for. men on only fans. subscribers you know oh wait question on. that do you think that the women in the. WNBA should be PL should be paid the. same as the men in the NBA what is the. the women's NBA. I don't watch sports okay basketball.

NBA basketball do you think the women's. organization WNBA the women's NBA I. don't know that's a tricky question but. should I say yes women do. um deserve more but I feel like it also. has to do I don't know I don't want to. offend anybody but I feel like it also. has to do into the mic please it also. has to do with who's what like how many. people are watching like are more people. watching the woman or more people.

watching the men how much money are they. getting based off you know that's what I. okay fair enough it's logical Okay so. we were going around the table that. worries me because I'm so sorry to say. but I feel like sometimes when him is is. saying that he agrees with me I feel. like I'm saying something wrong towards. woman. you're just very anti-woman I feel like. I don't think he's anti I'm not I'm not. anti-woman no you have a very anti-male. State stance I don't know what happened. with you but some man seriously.

traumatized what do you think happened. to me something in your family oh Jesus. very wonderful dad my dad is very. present in my life my dad is a man I. when I look for a man I'm mostly. thinking about your dad not about my dad. but what has my dad provided for my. family I want a man you want a provider. yeah I want a man that's because that's. what I've grown up okay I want to give. everyone a chance to uh speak so what.

was the [ __ ] question I was. originally going around the table on. anyone remember I was something you. wanted to get off your chest you wanted. advise uh. we could continue on this path but I do. want to give everyone an opportunity to. speak go ahead. I actually don't have any concerns at. the moment. okay go ahead um I'm concerns but like I. have a statement sure um I don't like. hook up culture how it's like affected. going to college because then people. think like oh might as well just get out. my relationship right before College.

because there's no point and everyone's. going to be partaking culture and that's. not necessarily the case at all so yeah. I have no concerns or comments. okay she's ready to go home Cynthia um. none at the moment Natasha I'm good. sorry. okay let's do some super chats here. yo we have uh KC Superman 20 Super Chat. all the women on the panel are. definitely attractive but Lexi and Viv. are the diamonds who's Viv.

oh Vivi okay there you go all right. Casey Superman. Viviana yeah Leon 20 soup chat ask the. chick with the bangs if she's an. advocate for abstinence no sex before. marriage if used to be developed the. relationship first then have sex with. hookup culture. it seems to be sex first then develop a. relationship yeah. oh this question's for me I'm so sorry. yeah.

advocate for abstinence no sex before. marriage. um I do whatever you want that's why am. I gonna be telling somebody else to not. have sex before marriage I know there's. religions and cultures that you know. If you defend that stand. they're asking you personally do you. defend abstinence before a relationship. as in getting to know someone develop a. relationship I do agree with that 110. because any time I a man okay and going.

back to hook up culture I guess or maybe. it doesn't even have anything to do with. hookup culture but if you're hooking up. with a guy on the first date. he's not gonna love you I'm so sorry to. say that but he's not going to love you. you don't in my experience I either. didn't have sex with a man at all or I. waited a very long time to have sex with. him and that's when the love started. I've Loved girls I slept with on the. first night okay well that's for you for.

me personally and I especially maybe. even now like for our age range I just. feel like it doesn't really happen. you love has to be formed I guess you. don't just hook up with somebody and. then they're in love with you that's not. how it works. I think the issue is is when a. relationship is formed around sex rather. than a real true connection yeah. because when you have sex with somebody.

on the first day I feel like that's kind. of like. I don't know maybe there's like no. that's it you kind of just gave it up. already you know like there's really no. oh like oh like maybe we'll kiss this. day or like you know I feel like the. love is kind of lost when you're just. hooking up and the relationship's just. about hooking up. do you disagree no no I think we should.

uh. move up. so. well I need you to drink. so okay you're saying that. you've engaged in the hookup culture but. you kind of don't like how it ends up. correct yeah does anyone any girls here. feel that same way like. with the hookup culture. who here thinks hookup culture is a good. thing show me your hand. who disagrees with Google culture.

okay so some of us are just now voting. those were some unenthusiastic handrails. yeah so some of them just sat through it. all right. I personally don't participate in hookup. culture like even when I was single I. had a part like a time of my life when I. did but it was very short but I also I'm. not gonna judge girls that participate. in hookup Ultra I think that everyone is. free to just. and they're gonna like suffer the. consequences of that whether it's good. for them or bad for them. that's that's.

in there. um I personally don't believe in well. personally for me I don't personally. believe in uh um having sex before like. actually building some type of. connection like whether it's marriage or. dating I don't think I'm gonna hook up. with someone unless I know like there's. a mutual like love that's growing there. I've got a question for ladies so. America leads the world in divorce and. broken families right. why are relationships failing in America. in your opinion because people are.

getting married at a very young age I. feel like are there you feel like. I've seen I grew up in San Inez so I. feel like everybody kind of just gets. stuck in this little. hole and. they're kind of just so bored with their. lives they're like What's they haven't. gotten out of the valley yet they're. just there and they're still with their. high school sweetheart and they're kind. of just like well it's not going to get.

any better than this so then. decide to get divorced and then they. realize well maybe there is more to life. than being with my high school. sweetheart so okay what age what age is. good then because you said people get. married too early what is good age. I don't know I it do you know what the. average age of marriage is in America no. okay so it's like 27 28. okay. so it's already not that. young okay I'm just saying based off. what I've seen I've seen a lot of people.

get engaged okay so you see people too. early uh let's start with you over here. Lexi yeah. in your opinion why do you think because. you seem like you come from a married. household. do you yeah you seem very well put. together you seem classy so you seem. like you come from a good home why do. you think. relationships in America kind of falling. apart in your opinion you don't have to. be right or wrong just your opinion. I think people are getting married. soon after they meet people.

um. I mean I'm all for it if you think you. love someone you want to spend the rest. of your life with them I'm all for that. but I do think sometimes hookup culture. maybe has something to do with it maybe. not giving. the relationship as much time as it. needs before jumping into it because. you're always going to run into problems. but some people just aren't meant for. each other and I think a lot of people. don't give themselves the time to figure. that out okay how about you. yeah I feel like definitely uh hookup. culture has something to do with it.

people don't take the time to know like. to get to know each other anymore that. well and it kind of ruins everything. after so sex too early. um yeah I think people tend to rush into. relationships but more than that like. it's not exactly I don't think it's. exactly like a time frame I think it's. more like. getting married before. like figuring out how to resolve issues. figuring out how to sort it through. disagreements I feel like a lot of.

people tend to like run away when things. get hard and you're smart and I don't. mean like hard like cheating obviously. that's a completely different thing I. mean like disagreements yeah do you come. from a intact family. um. okay. uh it's uh you feel like it's more yes. than no. yeah well. what do you think what are your what's. your opinion.

it's a whole rushing into a thing people. marry for Less not for love so for lust. I don't know yeah. um I think first of all are I don't know. tilt the mic down towards each side I. don't know if people are getting married. too young I'm not sure if I agree with. that on a huge basis but I think. institution wise like marriage in the. U.S is so gruelsome like I just feel. like some of the happiest couples I know.

that live here. are not married and they've been. together for 15 years plus I know a. couple couples who actually haven't have. no plans of getting married they're. engaged they're committed but I think. it's. yeah that that's what I mean I I don't. need I don't mean about like the title. like you need to sign this document now. you're official married like if you guys. were together we're gonna say you're. only married because you signed this. paper but they didn't sign the paper so. it doesn't care like I'm not talking. about that I'm just saying like why do.

you think people are like breaking up. and why like dysfunction and. relationships coming apart is more. common than coming together. um. I guess to answer that like I said I. don't think it's necessarily an age. problem I think. finding the person you want to be with. forever at a young age is fine yeah but. just yeah. going through thick and thin with that. person I think some people overestimate. how ready they are for that yeah I don't.

know I agree a lot of people give up. Cynthia. um I think they hit a lot of the good. points. um I do think a lot of people get into. relationships. um. for the wrong reasons another big thing. is like. um. there is no I think a lot of. relationships there are stability so. they don't go to the thin like Amber. said. um and some people just kind of want to. avoid the problem just for the sake of. the. situation at the moment and that.

honestly the long run is just not good. so I think definitely going through the. hard the hard stuff and talking about it. that's that's that's that's that's good. right there. I think yeah the inability to get. through rough patches is a big one but. I've also seen it a lot um in my life. where. um this might be a little strange to say. but like I've seen it a lot where. typically the women like leads in the. relationship and there's no strength in. the man's role like the woman the man's. kind of like a doormat to the woman that. also really tends to poison the. relationship and lead to the woman.

leaving the relationship. yeah cool I I also think part of the. reason why there's so much breakdown in. relationships. is there's so many options so there's. especially with dating apps and social. media. someone potentially better is just a. swipe away yeah it's it's it's it's the. Paradox it's the illusion illusion. perfect mates out there it's not real. exactly it's not real people need to. like take what they can get or take what. they deserve and I honestly have an.

objective reality of how much you're. worth in the dating spot you know yeah. guys get your soup chats in uh all super. chats will be read answered uh well 20. and up. uh Carson can you pull up the uh twitch. I need to shout out our twitch homies. here and then I think I have something. for us to react to. all right. um okay we got uh some of them are. chatty thank you for the follow Josh. thanks for the follow Kiva thanks for. the follow dark I think for the follow.

chug of 40 thank you for the follow Ardo. thank you for the follow guys if you. have twitch go to twitch.tv whatever the. Link's in the description give us a. follow if you have a prime sub drop us a. prime sub let me get these super chats. here all right we have uh or wait let me. see. dank naked 20 ship yeah most men are. invisible and will always not want to. look weird and psych themselves out the. guys approaching women and sleeping with. them do it because they're good at it. most men aren't yes that's true. um. and oftentimes I mean.

who here maybe show of hands or we can. go around the table really quick who. here has hooked up with or dated a. shitty guy. maybe it's all of them let's start with. Natasha over here yes absolutely okay. Cynthia yes I would say so. sure I think just things just didn't. work out I don't know I I want to be.

fair and say probably not a shitty guy. but maybe some of the things he did were. shitty. yes. ah. yeah. surprised. yeah definitely. no. no well you keep making comments every.

time I say something you just make a. little comment he wants the heat he does. he does he likes to argue with with a. little 21 year old girl he likes it he. gets off on that God you're gonna be. thinking about this later. okay moving on all right we have a mango. King here uh with the 20 soup chat can I. get some advice the tension in the air. is palpable by the way guys okay I keep. attracting married women but I'm not. about that life anymore what am I doing.

wrong that I keep attracting them. nothing. nothing just keep saying no. I keep attracting married women they'll. see but married women. Karma and Karma no bueno all right we. have uh Walt Mosher 21 thank you man how. common is it that your friends are. promiscuous would you say your friend is. a 3-0 foe if her body count is more than. a hundred what's that 304 was uh.

stands for ho. so over 100 body count how are not how. no we're trying to stop [ __ ] shaming and. calling woman hoes. why why do you guys get mad why do you. feel disappointed when I say that. so we're just getting off on it you know. it seems like it seems like it well do. you think it's a desirable thing to have. slept with over a hundred people I know.

a lot of girls that are in college or. that go to like diff you know other. colleges or universities and their body. counts are very high and I feel like. that's kind of normal I guess I if you. want to have a high body count have a. high body count for me personally that's. not something. that I want because I don't can't gain. anything from sleeping with a bunch of. random dudes but maybe these girls want. to I don't know it's not my place to say.

oh go do this go do that don't sleep. with all these guys sleep with less guys. that's not my place to say anything and. that's not my place to Define her and. call her a 304. well you can the more generous term. would be to just say she's promiscuous.

okay she's did not My Little Pony one. two three she is denying the farting. accusations. funny that he would send 40. . yuck you're yum if that's what you're. insane no farting. you know what we should after this topic. we should talk about if the uh Kinks a. little bit that could be interesting but. Okay so.

you don't think that promiscuity should. be shamed. all these questions are about me I love. it you advise women to refrain from. being a 304 and promiscuous but you're. not setting the example take a look at. how you're dressed that skin shows. otherwise so just because I'm dressed. the way I am that means I'm a three or. four. yeah I could say that I'm dressed a. little promiscuous but that doesn't. Define me that doesn't Define who I.

sleep around with if I sleep around. doesn't Define anything I I actually. don't think you're dressed particularly. promiscuous I don't think they just see. some boobs and they freak out so do you. wanna do you wanna. shoot shots back at Alvin. he called you a 304 do you want to say. anything back to Alex he doesn't know. what I do what do you do with the nanny. oh she's a nanny okay yeah yeah all. right watch out Nanny attack okay so a. very good one too a good you're a good.

nanny yeah okay. um so. okay so. we were talking about kind of. promiscuity. ah man I love the tts's but uh. okay sometimes they distract me but I. keep keep going but just saying um just. okay never mind Jesus Christ so can you. just what was your point.

about what well okay the previous Super. Chat was. oh the 304 thing oh wait is this not. or was it this one. I'm trying to find it God damn it. oh I think it's this one uh how common. is it that your friends are promiscuous. would you say your friends is 304 if her. body count is over a hundred. none of my friends have a body count. over a hundred well I thought I thought. you said you knew some college girls. that yeah like some friends that are.

like oh like my friend other friend is. in college and they'll tell me about. that like we'll talk about like maybe I. don't know like I kind of thought for a. while that I had a high body account but. then like I would hear about other girls. like in their hundreds or like having. higher body accounts than me and I'm. just like oh well what really makes a. high bar I don't really even like. talking about 9.99. no high value man desires a woman with a. high body count oh. he dubs thank you man appreciate it but.

how would they know about their high. body count a girl can lie that's true a. man can live to have certain symptoms. though certain symptoms do I give off. that energy high body count you're. asking the wrong question be honest does. it does it give that off. no comment. Brian oh you're asking me yeah. I I don't think you have a high one but. I don't think you have a low one what is. hi to you.

depends on how old are you 21 yeah. I don't think it's over 20. is it over 20 no okay. in Southern California I mean it depends. where you're at some people think more. than five or more than ten is a high. body count uh here in Southern. California. pretty rough. it's rough but uh. actually really quick just going around. the table on this do you think body. count should matter or not let me frame.

it like this. do you think it's wrong for men or do. you think men should not have a. preference for women to not be. promiscuous and have a low body count. I can speak yeah yeah yeah I don't think. men should have an opinion. oh you don't think men should have an. opinion. no like on on body count like on body. count like he's saying a preference like. a guy so for example guys that are tip.

guys typically when they're choosing a. Woman They want to settle down with they. don't want a chick that has been. completely ran through. okay we can get to that later but let's. just first get through the questions so. let's stick let's stay on the toy let's. Point yes so would you have an issue or. do you think it's wrong for a guy to. have a preference to date a woman who's. not promiscuous and who has a low body. count.

personally I would prefer if they didn't. have that preference but I know a lot of. men do and I don't. I would love to understand why I've. never really had a conversation with a. guy of why they feel like men or why. they feel women shouldn't be ran through. um. so I'd love to hear um before before we. do give our take on this I do want to. give everyone an opportunity to answer. before we share so go ahead. I think it depends because there's a lot. of guys with like really high body count.

can you tilt the microphone down towards. you. here push pull it from them yeah. there there you go okay so I think. there's a lot of guys that have like. really high body count but still will. ask for a girl to have like a body count. less than 10 it's kind of like hypocrite. okay so we can address the double. standard thing but let's assume that he. has a low a low body count too if he. does and he's like asking for a girl. with low body count then yes because. that's his preference but okay like I.

don't think a woman should be judged. over her body. either okay so the double standard. like if if the guy has a high body count. then he shouldn't have yeah. okay we'll come back to that go ahead. um I agree I don't think it's a man's. business to know a woman's body count. because either way woman can lie I don't. really think like you said that there's. signs that a woman has a high body count. I don't think that's true. um you roll your eyes at me but I just.

think it's funny that you just get so. okay 49.99. if a woman is going to have a preference. about a man's money he will have a. preference about a woman's body count. this is non-negotiable we all have. preferences thank you for Alvin for the. uh 50 Super Chat man appreciate all the. support continue on with your point. well like am I am I gonna ask a man oh. what's your body count.

well that is a bit of a difference. between men and women generally speaking. I don't care far less about it than that. why but why is it so important for a. woman to have a low body count well. we'll get to that we'll address that I. just want to give everyone the. opportunity to uh speak go ahead. um so I don't first I don't think. a woman's value is fully defined or. defined with their body count but with. that said I do think a man is entitled. to have a preference. okay.

yeah I agree with that um men are. entitled to have their preferences. um but with that being said someone who. does have a high body count is that no. longer worthy of love. Carson can you just close the door go. ahead. I think it's fine to have a preference I. don't care what other people's. preferences are but I think just move on. to another girl then there are girls. with low body counts if you want them. it's not like they're sure scarce like. it's possible it's pretty scary but uh.

it's pretty scarce but go ahead. um you could have your own opinion but I. don't think I would date a guy who would. want me to have a low body count. because this is like if that's his like. um his what's the word like I I must. have like a low body count for him to. like date me something like that okay. Natasha I would respect if a guy wanted. a low body count because I also feel. that way towards guys like there's a. certain threshold that they can have to. work the point where I'm like oh maybe I.

should be with this person okay so. before me and John come in most of you. said body count shouldn't matter it. doesn't matter whatever. so if body count doesn't matter if it. shouldn't matter. what is your body count Natasha will. start with you. wait you just asked my body count yeah I. would rather not say you've shared it. before yeah but I realized I don't. really want to say it again. killing me all right Cynthia. I would prefer not to say.

I also prefer not to say. um just out of respect for my family. for the family who's who's the gangster. who's gonna actually come in and share. go ahead. yeah I would rather not say obviously. I'm not gonna say one girl starts off a. domino effect go ahead good I'm all. inside I'm sorry. for not to say okay so you refuse to. share yet you think body count doesn't. matter thus yeah because if I say I'm. gonna be judged thus hold on stop.

interrupting. somewhere. stop interrupting this is hurting my. brain studies have empirically shown. that women with higher body counts are. far more likely to divorce the same is. not true for men it's biology you. release oxytocin during. during relations that's the pair bonding. hormone so some d UMB deep down. even though you guys say body count. doesn't matter your refusal to share it.

would indicate to me that it matters you. you know it matters and that's why you. refuse to share it. it doesn't matter to me but it matters. to you guys so I'm not gonna go and put. myself out here and say my body count. just for you two to ridicule me we're. not going to ridiculate my husband. saying stuff the whole time I I don't. need a lot of calories. I said he's insecure and he proceeded to. call me a [ __ ] okay look we've moved on.

from that let it go let it go I haven't. he hasn't apologized. um yes say something I'm not ashamed of. my body count going quote and if like my. partner potential partner is interested. in knowing I'm not fearful of sharing. that with them but if these people don't. need to know so it's like yeah but if if. it didn't matter then you would just be. like oh here's here's my body count. partner yes well no just outwards but.

you would acknowledge that it is. something that maybe not all men but. that some men do care about and it is. also some women would judge you for it. too true yes that's actually when women. are have a disagreement with each other. often the first insult that they hurl at. the other that should that chick's [ __ ]. that's the first thing they go to. because so. women will shame women on it too so I'd. like to um back up what she's saying I. feel like a discussion of your body.

count is a discussion for somebody that. you're comfortable with and that you're. sleeping with I'm not sleeping with. anybody here so I'm not gonna answer. that because I feel like. things should be kept private and you. should be I don't know like Brian are. you gonna share your body count are you. is he gonna share his body so why are we. only getting asked for our body well I. can't speak for John me personally I. think body count matters so I'm not. going to share my body count because I. think it matters but John you I don't. know if you want to share yours.

you guys really want to know. sure if he shares it will y'all share it. no. one for one one for one no no how about. you since you two have been flirting. with each other all night I'm thinking. uh I'm thinking if he says it you say it. how about that. Gentleman's Agreement. fine oh okay there we go John go ahead. ladies first. 11. really.

only 11 really do you think I'm ran. through no I just no I'm just. yeah. sounds low. mine's like. 250. 250. body count matters to you when it. comes to a woman yes so but it's okay. for you to have a high body count yeah. kind of like it doesn't you don't and. your opinion is [ __ ] no no no no. because it's the same thing for the. standards there's all kinds of listen to. double standards because you wouldn't.

you wouldn't date a guy shorter than you. yeah but. body count come on okay same thing I. can't lie about his height. you're completely missing the point so. would you be offended if a woman didn't. want to be with you your ideal woman. didn't want to be with you because of. your body count no I mean. I mean she's your ideal 10 out of 10. Victoria's Secret model so okay so let's. say my ideal woman 10 out of 10 does. reject me because I have a high body. count what can I do.

done so then you just asked me a. question just to like but like are you. good would you be like offended by that. if the my if my ideal woman walked away. from me yes I would be offended. so that means that bodycon doesn't. matter. understand why it matters why you can. have a high body count but God forbid. the woman that you're seeing has a high.

body count well let me finish there's a. lot of differences go ahead yeah what. are the differences men and women let. them address hold on let them address. her questions like how like your the. quality of a relationship you can. provide her. yeah for sure that your body count does. it on her end yeah things will come up. on her own if she has a high body count. yeah it's like statistics if she doesn't. and you do do you think that like. so should she believe you won't give her. a good quality relationship she could. believe that if she wants to but I'll.

demonstrate I I demonstrate in my. day-to-day life like I've got my [ __ ]. together I've got my [ __ ] together at a. very high level. so I I can operate a man a relationship. no problem but what I'm trying to say is. that if you look at the empirical data. it does show that high body count. negatively affects women. way more than it negatively affects men. however it does negatively affect men. however the threshold is far higher for.

men way higher but it also lowers. relationships satisfaction in men. marriage satisfaction in men marriage. happiness as well high body Count's not. good for men or women but men have a way. higher threshold than women infidelity. too infidelity is a higher likelihood. for both men and women yeah if the uh. body count is higher yeah and they've. done studies on it so I can see the. point of like why someone would be. concerned if they're. um like dating someone with a high body.

kindness and that but doesn't mean like. the person who has a high body count. isn't going to settle down and be like. the correct partner for somebody uh yeah. but well I agree but also I will say. that I've done I've gone through a lot. of therapy I've gone through a lot of. self-work a lot a lot a lot. because. the high body count and people going out. there participating in this like casual. hookup culture this sexual stuff that's. typically a symptom of something deeper. going on inside of that person and it's. just being acted out you know what I.

mean in in a warm in the form of like. sexual expression other people may. choose gambling are they made people. much use drugs food you know. being addicted to social media but is. usually due to some unreal unresolved. trauma they're carrying around with them. and you mentioned that uh just because. someone's was promiscuous in the past or. they have a high body count but. something in Psychology the best. predictor of future behavior is past.

Behavior. and this is no less true in the realm of. sexual behavior so. a really strong predictor of marital. infidelity is One's number of. uh premarital sexual partners also. higher chance of STD higher chance of. reporting relationship dissatisfaction. higher chance of uh infidelity or I. already said that are infidelity women. who sleep women who sleep around more. have less orgasms have less fulfilling. relationships I mean there's a book that.

just came out last year it's really good. it's called. um. it's called the molecule of more they. talk about dopamine and they talk about. this and in depth from the great studies. word. did you I think you wanted to come in on. something I forgot I forgot so you were. talking a bit about the double standard. right I think the double standard was. the thing that kind of frustrated you a. little bit. that. it's okay for a man to have. a high body count or it was if a guy has.

a high body count he shouldn't have a. preference for a woman with a low body. count is that kind of a fair assessment. of the double standard that you see as. uh wrong so to speak yeah okay so. I guess let me ask you guys a question. are there things that you desire in a. partner that you do not possess. here let's go around the table. do men and women want different things.

[ __ ] crickets Everything Jesus Christ. do men and women want different things. I think there's definitely different. things they want sometimes they want the. same things but are there different. things that they want I mean I. definitely have to think about that but. I believe yes most likely okay let me. ask you a question. um. are women attracted to strong muscular. men. generally speaking.

I would say so okay. do you think most men care about a. woman's physical strength. it's not really a Factor some guys like. fit girls whatever some guys have a king. for big body boldered women that's fine. but generally speaking most men your. physical strength. is not. doesn't really matter to us whereas like. if you encountered a guy who was. physically weak. like he he like struggled to lift 10.

pounds or some [ __ ] that'd be a turn off. for you for most women I think if he was. physically weak. I agree does anyone have Jesus Christ. like hello I hope my hope my partner. doesn't expect me to like um attack the. robber that breaks into the house go. change the entire babe okay so. uh here do you think that men and women. want different things. it's totally like. probably women would walk.

caring woman or a girl that cooks or. something like that so. definitely. yeah I agree depending on the person. everyone's looking for something. different and they're speaking. generalities let's speak in generalities. I can't speak for everyone. but for me person personally can I speak. on me personally well let me give you a. layup here generally speaking are women. do women prefer taller men.

I guess yeah you guess I have a. short guys okay but the exception does. not make the rule so generally speaking. do women are women attracted to taller. men sure okay so do we prioritize. different things. yeah okay. so let me ask well I want to keep going. around the table but. so. do you think men and women want. different things. yeah I do I mean obviously there are.

things that both genders want but. there's also like certain things that. men want that differ from one what a. woman sure go ahead. yeah kind of recite it like I hope my. man can protect me because I know I. wouldn't be able to do much if they were. in danger okay. yeah I think men and women have. different superficial preferences some. super chatted. 49.99. ladies why do you have a problem about. body count when women in general do not. prefer to date a male virgin that's a.

good point. women are often slut-shamed and men are. often virgin shamed I guess. um. continue with your I don't know who's. going but right so men and women I think. have superficial preferences very. different but I think core values I. don't see any. distinct differences. well certainly if physical traits are. quite different but I mean couldn't a.

core value be not wanting a partner with. who is or was promiscuous. yeah I think men and women who whether. that specific value matters to them. typically they attract each other in the. long run so. there are there are women who would. prefer to date men that are not. promiscuous but I think men generally. speaking have a much more invested. interest in women who are not. promiscuous or didn't have a promiscuous.

past and don't have a high body count. far more than women I'm not saying there. are no women that care about body count. but it's far less than men. okay then I guess that could be an. exception but I think like. just in general like for example Family. Values I think people who sure who. prioritize them tend to attract each. other and people who don't tend to. attract each other and it just that's. just how it kind of works it just works. out okay. you although I wonder if even men who.

have high body counts they still. prioritize women with low body counts or. wanting women with low body counts. because a guy who maybe a guy who has. difficulty. getting women he's going to just settle. for whatever. so I don't know but go ahead Cynthia in. short yes in short yes thank you for. your concise-ness uh okay Natasha yes. women want protection and someone that. provides for them someone that provides.

stability someone to give them new. experiences in life someone to advance. them in the status of life or this you. know whatever. um yeah that's it. word. so does that kind of address the double. standard thing or no are you still stuck. on that. I'm still stuck on that with and it. comes to dub. body count yeah okay well let me go. through a list here then because I have. a couple things written down so many.

women want who here wants a guy who's. funny he just show of hands who here. wants a funny guy who can make you laugh. okay. can y'all make. men laugh and are you funny yeah okay. well I would say many women want a guy. who is funny that can make them laugh. yet they are not. funny themselves. many women want a charismatic man yet. they are not charismatic themselves. many women want the tall men yet they.

are not tall themselves you want a. chivalrous man but you are not. chivalrous. you want a strong man but you physically. anyways you are not strong. people want things. both men and women want things and. partners that they do not necessarily. possess themselves. you got to speak into the mic sorry when. it's something like you can that you can. control like body count like no one's.

making you sleep with 250 girls you know. like you're just doing it so that should. be called whatever those things you. can't change but when it comes to like. oh yeah like I'm not gonna be with this. girl because oh she slept with. 10 guys oh my gosh she's such a [ __ ]. um but uh you on the other hand slept. with 250 girls you don't have you don't. have an opinion on the girl's body count. your body count is high just stop that's.

like you can see right there the. conversation's over that could be the. same thing with you at the hype like you. can't demand somebody be six foot you're. five foot two. okay. well you can and the thing that's still. my boyfriend but okay but body well it's. men's preference men's preference with a. low body count stupid preference that. see see it's only stupid because you. don't understand it and it doesn't serve. you that's why you're very self-centered. in the way you've used it how does it.

serve you having a nice clean girl uh. well well no STDs uh the baby's. definitely mine she's not gonna run away. marital happiness I mean the list goes. on and on and on. basically men are not allowed to have. preferences standards and boundaries men. are allowed to have preferences but they. shouldn't like ridicule women when. they're doing like when they're having. the same experience like you wouldn't. you said you went through therapy and. things like that for. um and like that was how you dealt with. it like wouldn't you and then wouldn't.

you relate to a woman I guess who was. like going through the same thing like. once you find something like. special not special that's horrible like. something called like you know I. understand what you're saying for sure. but a lot of guys are just not that. introspective and not that well it just. like how you're not gonna rationalize. like well he's five foot four or any you. know he makes forty seven thousand. dollars a year and like just how you're. not gonna kind of you know tiptoe around. what you want neither are guys and like. you said that with the woman with a.

lower body count you're guaranteed like. no STDs or Baby Jordans and that how can. we get that guarantee from a man who has. high body comp then like well you can't. well the baby thing that's why guys. don't want you doing that I'm just. saying what he said well that that's. another reason why body count matters. because it's an EVO psych reason. evolutionary psychology if a woman's. promiscuous we've invented DNA tests in. the past 40 years I believe it's in the. 1980s if a woman's promiscuous. here's a better example if a woman has.

10 husbands and she's sleeping with all. of them who's the father you don't know. in the past anyways throughout all of. human history now you can take a DNA. test and in some countries it's actually. in France my that's where I was born you. can't get a it's illegal to get a. paternity test in France because. apparently according to the French. authorities or some [ __ ] it would be too. destructive to society because men would. realize that they were cocked and their.

partner there's infidelity and that the. kid's not theirs and that's a real fear. for men to raise a child that you think. is yours women can't really relate to. this one because if you have a kid you. know with certainty the kid is yours. well you laugh but it is a genuine real. fear that's one of the biggest L's a guy. can take in his life is to with his wife. or partner or whatever think he's had a. kid with her that's his kid. and it turns out it's not it's just re. revealed infidelity and it's revealed.

that that kid is not his. that's a huge l and a huge concern for. men that women do not have. so that's why men for it's in our gut if. a woman's promiscuous it's evolutionary. psychology. is repulsive. if she's promiscuous you cannot. guarantee paternity you cannot guarantee. that the child is yours I just think. it's funny when guys have like a. standard women are just like how dare. you and just like.

I think it's okay to have a preference. but I just don't think it's okay to. shame anyone that doesn't align with. that preference but you shame a guy by. not dating him if he's like a shorty how. are we shaming. that is not a Shameless actually so. that's actually the number one shame a. man can receive in this life is to be. told that he's not good enough for. reproduction. but me personally I said I didn't have a. preference in Heights no there wasn't. I'm not individually targeting you or. attacking you at all like that's not.

what I'm trying to say can you repeat. what you just said about a man not being. suitable for what what can you just. repeat what you said because I feel like. I kind of missed it or misinterpreted no. pay attention. okay so you said that the body count. thing it's a stupid preference for men. to have yeah why what would you say that. same thing to a woman what if a woman. wanted a man with a low body count maybe. she she herself has a low body count and. she doesn't want to date a player. she wants to date just like kind of an a.

guy that. isn't gonna [ __ ] around not the [ __ ] boy. she just wants a nice guy. having a preference isn't bad it's the. double standard that's bad yeah no we. just preference does the preference is a. preference where there's a double. standard there or not then you can have. your preference that's fine. double standards yeah and women are the. ones left in single at the end of the. day anyways and complaining about being. left single so if you guys don't get it. together it's your ball to carry.

what makes you think women want to be in. a relationship uh let's let's see all of. biological science that has stemmed. since the dawn of humanity. okay but things are different now I'm. sorry oh yeah people don't want people. don't want to reproduce anymore got it. thanks for clearing that up. well some people babies are stopping in. 2023. we're ending babies got it do you. think that everybody gets in a. relationship is gonna get married and. have children no.

uh Carson you can start. um red pill [ __ ] super chatted 50 it's. amazing how much women have no clue how. to be in a relationship with a man who. dots is an asset to society a man has to. earn his abundance of women his just. born shows up and receives hers. difference is when you don't when you. don't earn it you don't respect it. thank you red pill [ __ ] for the Super. Chat appreciate it go ahead is that you. guys's point with the whole box.

high body count equals low ability to. pair bond with women men don't lose the. ability to pay Bond as we don't make. connections the same way as them the. more they do it the less they can pair. bond yeah I mean pair bonding is another. thing if you've had a hundred Partners. previously you're you're going to bond. with 101 Why didn't it work out with the. passage. 99.99. gaze horrifically upon the quick Sonic.

standards of rubbish whose egos are only. overshadowed by the miles of dick. they've taken Jesus Christ Khalifa in. the UAE such a painful panel to. such a painful panel to watch shout out. to MLD gents never settle for these. types of women. okay uh sentience they're not all bad on. the panel they're not all bad okay I am. huh. can I go back to the other yes go ahead. go ahead so if you're at the point of.

like valuing body count because you guys. claim that women get it easier than men. do so it's like they should be more. look at you and then be like oh yeah. like that's my girl but like Bob up the. street hit it and then Joe at the. [ __ ] Corner shop and then this guy. who [ __ ] stalks her on Instagram I. know he [ __ ] her like a guy doesn't. want to like look at all like you're you. know your entire resume of dicks and be. like. just look at it we just don't want to. see that just like how you would like if.

you're dating a guy and you wouldn't. want him following any of his. ex-girlfriends on Instagram. or like if if he was like a member like. a member of her [ __ ] only fans or. something like that you'd be like what. are you doing like the [ __ ] get out of. here guys is the same way we don't like. it we just don't like it and it's yeah. and I don't have a problem with your. with your preference it's. just tell me like like it's guys like. that across the world it's not like we. have some giant like patriarchal. Community like all right guys get. together put on your thinking caps how. are we going to press women this week.

okay body count like if we don't just. get together and think like that but. when you get out this side of the world. you travel around you'll see that most. guys. most guys just want a decent woman to. come home to that they know that the. woman is not going to go run around on. him that's like what most guys want. period. it's it's also interesting that. I don't really get the sense that most. of you here are. particularly promiscuous or have high. body counts so why defend it.

it's not defending it it's like he said. he has a body kind of like 250 but he's. like oh I don't want to get any STDs. that's why I don't want a woman that has. a high body count she said clean that's. why but you slept with 250 woman yes. how are you sure you're not going to get. an STD. I have I have gotten in the past and. that's why I tell people now like don't. [ __ ] do it okay you know no I had to. go get tests and you know some guy next.

to me I went got this test one time I. was in Tokyo and the way they have like. the HIV test set up is like there's two. doors in front of you you don't know. which one it is one is the the you have. HIV doors yeah the one is that you don't. have HIV and it's me sitting next to. this Japanese dude and he was like. freaking out and crying and losing his. mind and then I walked through the door. and. I was fine but so you regret it you. regret having like a low I mean a high. body Gap I don't regret having a high. body count but I do regret sleeping with.

the chick the kids sleeping with some of. those chicks you're like yeah I'm. totally clean you don't have to use a. condom like that I regret I I've. actually hooked up with a chick and then. she hit she texts me when I got home. she's like actually I have something to. tell you. and I was like [ __ ] you [ __ ] sucia. I mean how would you feel if you got. home oh by the way I have AIDS you know. so that would be a yikes that would be a. major yikes no okay so you guys are more. so stuck on the double standard. component of it.

it seems word wait now ask a question. huh may I ask a question sure for you. too. um what would you say. is what is the ideal woman's body count. in your opinion average the average. ideal and what do you got what do you. guys think personally for yourself well. I deal with zero zero zero. zero zero realistic low body count like. a realistic low body count less than ten. yeah like realistic.

are you you trying to reveal something. Cynthia what's going on what's going on. through that brain of yours and look and. like I have dated I've dated some girls. with some [ __ ] high body counts I. have I've overlooked it but it's just. not it's not your ideal right. it's not your ideal situation like if I. told you tell me your ideal guy you need. to be like he's six with five he's Jack. he's handsome and he lives in a trailer. no you're gonna want the total package. right.

so that's the same thing it's just when. we talk about preference it's important. like people will tell you it's not but. like we as guys like it's built in our. DNA just like when you look at a guy. that's like fat bald lives at home with. his parents and has no job you're like. no I'm not gonna let this guy have sex. with me ever ever ever ever ever the. same thing when we find out we like a. girl and we find out like oh [ __ ] she. has kind of been around the block and. one of my friends may have [ __ ] her.

you know that's a conversation could. sits him like oh and it's the worse when. you really like the girl too and then. you find out because they've been lying. there there is certainly a reputational. component to a high body count too like. it if someone's just slept with your. entire friend group it's just I don't. know it's not. not great we have the girls that we pass. around and we're not necessarily saying. you know the best things about those. kind of girls oh well I mean I'm not I.

don't if if I know one of my buddies. hooked up with a girl it's just so use. the girl for your convenience but then. when she's out you're not [ __ ] her. anymore it's oh she's a [ __ ] she's this. she's that right after I sex trafficker. yes correct did I say sex traffic. well it I I almost wonder if this is an. issue of semantics for some of you. because at the start of the conversation. a lot of you said you think hookup. culture is bad well what coincides with.

hookup culture. having a lot of sexual partners broken. families people who don't know how to. manage relationships. in general. I think I come from a broken family oh. my God I didn't say that you look at me. you've been hinting not though well I. think you guys have been flirting with. each other the whole show so I've been. looking at all of these girls like I've. been making eye contact with you you no. but you've been picking on me the whole. time. foreign.

now a word from our sponsors all right. let me get these soup chats here and. then we're gonna probably wrap here. pretty soon but uh okay guys get your. soup chats in um yeah get your soup. chats in let me see if I can pull these. up uh. did we do this one. high body counts are enabled by hookup. culture they are related to be against. one you must be against the other dank. naked thank you for the 20 soup chat. kinda.

very similar to what I just said but uh. yeah I mean they kind of coincide with. each other so if you don't like hookup. culture then. certainly. you wouldn't be in favor of people. having high body counts and being. promiscuous but maybe it's semantics. okay uh stimp Roy 20 Super Chat they. intuitively do know men are repulsed by. a high body count want proof ask them. what their father would think if they. told him their true body count. that's not my dad's business oh okay.

[ __ ] why would I be saying that here's a. question I want to ask you guys would. you. if you had a choice would you prefer. your future daughter. to be promiscuous look she has free will. she can do whatever she wants right but. would you prefer your daughter to be. really promiscuous just sleeping with. two new guys a week or would you prefer. her to be more relationship minded and. get into long-term relationships and. sleep with one person at a time and have. long-term relationships what would you.

prefer let's start with you Lexi go. ahead I would prefer her to be safe no. matter what whatever Choice she makes I. would prefer her to be safe I know. that's not I know that's not the answer. Lexi come on that's not what you want a. lady pageant answer it's perfect you'd. be a good politician Lexi it's in what. are you studying again. political okay all right she's gonna run. for Congress okay uh maybe president who. knows I think you're Poli SCI right. um so just be safe. are you talking about like STDs or what.

do you mean just in general just be safe. you know use protection be careful with. the men you trust or the people you. trust. um okay let me ask this she's on birth. control and in both scenarios she's not. using protection. would you prefer to be in a monogamous. relationship or would you prefer like be. fine with her just sleeping around. I would advise her to use protection. even if she's on birth control well. let's say she she prefers she doesn't. like sex with condom she's allergic. whatever.

excuse she comes up with I'd be slightly. disappointed. there we go against that. okay but what if would you be slightly. disappointed in her if she was having. safe sex without a condom well she say. she was on birth control within the. confines of a committed monogamous. relationship. would you be disappointed in her then. like if she was just you know having sex. with her boyfriend with one person yes. worse be fine with that but not fine.

with. no I never said that but no whatever. Choice she makes as long as she's safe. but you have to make a choice that's. what he's saying that's the point of the. questions you have to make a choice. would I rather her be having sex with. one guy versus multiple guys yes using. no condom. give you my answer you said what okay if. she's not going to be safe. I wouldn't want her to be having sex at. all whether it's with one guy or. multiple guys so you kind of but I knew. if I raised my daughter she would know. better than that so I just I just don't.

understand the question because that's. unfair I mean a lot of people in. relationships especially if one person's. on birth control they're having just. putting a lot of if this if that if this. if that no well yeah her answer just. move on and ask the next person well no. I'm going to continue asking so. now you're so entitled it's his show. yeah just relax you're so rude you're so. rude this is. hold on you are wrong okay guys stop I'm. trying to shut up I'm trying I'm rude. I'm trying to kind of oh my God guide.

you you're so rude shut up okay okay if. you're gonna give me that energy I'm. gonna give you the same energy back you. call okay you want me to go and meet you. at the same place where you I thought. you started off with me no just going no. because I'm being respectful. even though you haven't been respectful. towards me. [Music]. so the question is. um it's very common in long-term serious.

monogamous relationships if if the girls. on birth control. they don't have sex with a condom. that's pretty common. not always but it's fairly common so. I know I'm building. hypothetical scenarios here but of those. two what do you think is safer so to. speak. safer would be having sex with one guy. but you're okay I know that's the answer. you want I know that's the answer you.

want. but since it's hypothetical I have to. say. as long as my daughter is safe I don't. care what she's doing okay so if your. daughter was sleeping with three new. guys a week even if she was being safe. which is I don't think it's safe to be. because there are some STDs that. doesn't matter if you're wearing a. condom and those are the bad ones that. [ __ ] you up but uh. well chiefly herpes and HPV you can. definitely get herpes without a condom.

or sorry you can definitely get herpes. even with a condom and it's interesting. to me just on the herpes thing really. quick if if any of you caught herpes I. doubt you'd be so quick to defend having. a high body counter promiscuity but. so. what are you asking me okay so I feel. like I haven't gotten like a solid Quest. okay so. okay so. you would not try to advise your. daughter if she was sleeping with you.

somehow found out or she told you that. she was sleeping with three new guys a. week you would not try to advise her. aside from just be safe and wear a. condom you would say you would not try. to say. try to guide her and maybe say ah maybe. that's not the best. thing to do. I think I would if she was still living. in my household I think that I would. let's say she was out to college. well as a mother. part of me wants to say Do Your Own. Thing but then if I was a mother.

I know I'd be like. hesitant about it I suppose but I don't. know I'm not a mother. I don't know I I know the answer you. want me to give you I'm so I'm sorry you. can you don't if you genuinely believe. what you believe you don't have to give. me what I'm looking for I think it's. safer if she's sleeping with one man. okay. um. and I I believe that you're never 100. safe so even with that one man that's. true never know yep there could be. cheating there could have been.

uh asymptomatic sure sure but if she's. sleeping with multiple men a. would advise her. way okay. would you like to answer the question I. think I would prefer my daughter to be. in a relationship instead just because. she would probably be happier than. sleeping with other men. she has like her. friend so. relationship.

I agree I would rather have my daughter. not be hooking up with a bunch of random. dudes. okay. build up. yeah so I guess I said before I wouldn't. shame more for it for but obviously I. would prefer if my daughter didn't sleep. with the like a lot of guys but not. because of what men will think of her. but because I don't want her to get hurt.

physically emotionally or mentally. um I think we kind of really established. that there's no positive outcome with. hookup culture so I would advise her not. to partake sure. yeah I don't think any mother would be. happy to hear that their daughter's. hooking up with three new guys a week I. just that's not really a net positive. for anyone but I think I would just. stress the importance of getting tested.

frequently I don't think that's stressed. enough. in general. um definitely a monogamous or not. monogamous. um an exclusive relationship for my. daughter um just as someone who. was really active in hookup culture I. was exposed to like a lot of guys and. exposed to a lot of diseases STDs. whatever and so it's just not safe. um speaking from experience I would not. want my daughter to go through the same. thing I did you were you were exposed to. a lot of what guys or guys and like.

diseases and stuff so you got exposed. yes to do you want to share No but it's. just not safe in general with multiple. partners yeah yep. yes I would hope my daughter's. relationship minded for protection of. her mind her body and her soul it's. okay. word so. and also. actually let me do these soup chats and. then I'll get back to that um Walt. Mosher 25 Super Chat thank you man.

appreciate it do you think men want to. marry women who are argumentative. opinionated disagreeable and have. masculine traits. chat's going hard tonight okay uh. let's start with you go ahead Lexi. majority no okay. go ahead. um. no. um yeah I don't want a man that's gonna. argue with me because I'm not gonna be. happy if I'm Gonna Be always arguing. with another with my significant other. there's no love in that yeah it's okay.

to disagree but when you're arguing and. there's negative energy then no I don't. want that okay that's not masculine. that's toxic masculinity. the buzzwords okay. uh what is toxic masculinity. you should know that you should know. that I'm not yes I'm asking you how do. you how do you define toxic masculinity.

you guys speak into Mike sorry I'm. Mexican and my culture there's a lot of. toxic masculinity within any Hispanic. culture basically I feel like men feel. yeah don't you think that's a bit racist. to say that she's speaking for all. Hispanics it's okay be quiet oh yeah. okay go ahead okay. um let me just defend it so to to paint. to paint hold on hold on let me just to.

paint an entire race as. no I'm just saying that what I've grown. up with and what I've seen in maybe in. my household or in my cousin's. households with my family that's. Hispanic I feel like I can't talk about. that because there is a in our culture. there is a word where you describe a. toxic masculine man machismo yes is that. it okay yeah and that's a lot of men. feel like they need to be that and I.

don't know I feel like. I don't know I I could say a lot that. say a lot you can say a lot people get. mad when I say a lot yes it's part of. the show. no I'm just saying that there's just. there is that kind of perception where. I guess men can't like are yes they. could be the provider in the family but. they also can't show emotion or stuff. like that I feel like. or they just get so mad or like their.

emotions are so high where they end up. showing it in anger I feel like that. happens a lot and I've seen that. firsthand okay. so you said toxic masculinity do you. think do you think there's such a thing. as toxic toxic femininity. oh yeah okay of course. why is it then you almost never hear. about toxic femininity but you hear. toxic masculinity used all the time. all the time maybe because it's a bigger.

issue is it I think it is so well my. main qualm with this toxic masculinity. thing is. why do we have to needlessly gender. toxicity can't there just be toxic. people I don't think toxicity knows a. gender women can be toxic men can be. toxic it just seems but is it being. rooted like oh okay you're a man so. therefore you have to do this this and. you have to do this this and this.

therefore you can't do this this and. this and same thing goes for a woman. like but when it comes to a man I feel. like toxic masculine masculinity can. lead most often leads to violence. against women. that's what I uh so what exactly is. toxic masculinity though. I'm just. because there's varying definitions and. it's kind of a vague nebulous term so. I'm just trying to. my definition of toxic masculinity is a.

man who red pills absolutely fifty. dollars these politically correct. answers are the reason we need strong. fathers in the home are we seriously. negotiating and compromising on the fact. that it's acceptable to be promiscuous. in a household where guidance is needed. please don't. please don't. procreate oh okay he's advising. to not appropriate okay so your. definition of toxic masculine The Red.

Pill Club thank you. um. I don't know I just I feel like. everybody's gonna have their own opinion. if I give my opinion this [ __ ]. is gonna laugh at me and I'm kind of. just done with it so I'm. [ __ ] are you gonna please her. you should you shouldn't I'll police a. little bit let's try to look I know. there was a heated moment there between. you two the beginning I encourage you. behind me I encourage you guys to you. can get your flirt on after the show. I've been I think there's a little.

okay I would encourage both of you to. try to again turn the volume knob down. on the on the heat there a little bit. guys so. you mentioned toxic masculinity. um do you think that's a sexist term. would would you say sexism. causes. okay. um. I don't know how deep how far down the.

the rabbit hole I want to go on toxic. masculinity I could. um. do you think there's toxic whiteness. okay she doesn't want to talk about it. don't ask me these questions all right. okay so look my basically my thing is is. that. um I don't think we need to pathologize. maleness or masculinity I think I think. it does a disservice because and perhaps. you might have a definition of toxic. masculinity where it's it's here are the.

unhealthy gender Norms that uh or gender. expectations on men but I think a lot of. times it's used in a way where it's. almost demonizing all masculinity and a. lot of men interpret it that way and men. and boys are taught that somehow. innately they are toxic just by virtue. of having been born as men and I don't. think it's a particularly productive or. helpful. term I think it's really divisive I.

think we ought to just address toxic. behavior and I I do think though that. perhaps toxicity maybe manifests itself. in men or in women. in their own sort of ways differently. but. I just think toxic masculinity is so is. pretty divisive so but um only in. America it's kind of a buzzword so it's. only in America because they're running. out of [ __ ] to teach in college so. they're turning people on each other now.

it's it's maybe a psyop just turn the. men against the women listen America. people from the outside are looking in. at America and laughing okay Chinese the. Russian the Japanese the Koreans all. these people watching us over here fight. at each other talk about [ __ ] that. doesn't [ __ ] matter. real the reality is you should just be. living your life to be a happy. individual and make sure you're. contributing and giving back to society. not being a net negative but a net. positive if you can have kids and make.

sure they're contributing members to. society yeah I mean as far as. terminology goes that's right it's it's. a all this [ __ ] is for people who have. too much time on their hands and just. want to sit around and feel oppressed. for [ __ ] no reason because they got. their life too good their bills are paid. they don't have to worry about lacks at. 49.99. thanks if you're going to use words like. oppression and toxic masculinity you. better hold your feet to the fire and be.

ready to back it up with hard facts it. is disrespectful to insinuate men and. for enforce involuntary servitude to. this day yeah do you have a response to. Alvin. no okay all right. um I don't even know how we got to toxic. masculinity what we were talking about. there is a question that said it said no. there is a question that said. um as a super chat yeah it was something. okay yeah yeah yeah. okay.

um so we have uh oh right I don't know. if everyone else well let's just keep it. moving okay we have uh afg crypto thing. for the 20 Super Chat guys get your soup. chats and we're gonna wrap here pretty. soon can the panel including Brian rate. me one to ten I'm a full-time engineer. and pilot on weekends six figure post. tax income six figure net worth you'll. have seven figures by age 30. decent. looks with mad rizz yo 26 year old but. I'm only five seven also Brian I'm. Chase's buddy. what's up man hey afg crypto thank you.

man uh no photo though rip. um. the girls really quick I mean just based. off of the description do you want to. give them a rating on one to ten one to. ten just quick knee jerk eight. oh okay. Sam I have to see a picture of him all. right. go ahead. just based off of what you see there.

five foot seven twenty six decent looks. he's a full-time engineer pilot on the. weekends six figure tax a post-tax. income as well so he makes over and he's. friends with Chase yeah that's important. well I mean. he sounds like a good like. promising partner but then I would have. to see like his personality but as like. what he is mentioning he sounds like he. has a wonderful future one to ten what. would you give him.

I really count without a personality. like without knowing his personality. okay. um based on description solid date. I don't know you but I hope you can be a. 10 for someone. Tasha seven okay all right yoga mango. King thank you man Antonio I'm Dominican. and I have seen more machism machismo. from women to women than from the actual. men she's Mexican question mark Mexican. men are the most enslaved to their wives.

in the world there's good and bad people. everywhere okay uh do you responds to. Mango. it's not even worth the time even saying. that like even responding to it there's. good and bad Mexican men are the most. enslaved to their wives. as it should be that's all I have to say. okay so when men are enslaved it's okay. but when women it's not okay guys all. right yeah go cry about it.

okay Chris Pacino with the 20 soup chat. hey brother love the show still waiting. on that invite cough cough I would love. to hear more opinions from the other. women third from the right is acting. rude and entitled it is not her show do. you have a response to chriseno. um well nobody else is really talking. maybe I'm just the only one that's. really talking to be honest I feel like. when we go around no offense to it when. we go around you guys kind of just give.

like little short answers I feel like. I'm kind of. bringing some heat are you are you. carrying this kind of interesting are. you caring most of these most of these. comments that I've been reading have. been about me or like the people pain. they have been about me they love you. yeah they love me or hate you they're. probably like 15 14 year old little kids. and there's I know there's people from. my hometown watching and that makes me. happy that they're watching because I'm. on here. so I I would say that I've looked at my. YouTube analytics and my demographic is. like 24 I think it's it's the two.

primary demographics are in this order. 25 to 34 and 18 to 24. men primary. demographic there's a couple women. thrown in there too but mostly dudes. because yeah there's some people behind. the screen maybe there's some 15 15 year. old gamer Chad's watching them with the. credit cards and they're ready they're. ready just to throw away they're ready. to go oh God Xavier Foster what is a. woman okay let's avoid the uh thank you.

for the 20 soup chat but. um let's not derail the conversation. more than we need to. um so. guys get your last minute super chats in. I wanna. open it up to you guys really quick uh. any final father question before I ask. my one or two last questions anything. Lexi okay anything I know you got. something you've been you've been. cooking this entire time there's. something. oh okay all right okay.

I feel like I haven't besides you I. haven't really been able to really fully. engage with any of you. really well so I feel like I need to ask. some college type questions like what do. y'all think of [ __ ] boys. I need to get you guys. you know on something that you can like. properly speak on I mean. in Santa Barbara especially like UCSB. and sbcc there's a lot to the [ __ ] boys.

um it's also the fact that maybe it's. like a party school a lot of people just. want to party and have fun. I would say the same for girls too A lot. of people are a lot of girls are looking. for hookup culture here. so we gotta but yeah I don't really like. [ __ ] boys. the only reason there's a bunch of [ __ ]. boys because there's a bunch of girls. out there giving away [ __ ] for free no. it's the only reason they're there. well. you disagree I disagree because I feel. like people come in college like.

especially guys. their goal is to like [ __ ] as many girls. as they. was like you know like brag about it and. you know can I get out of that I live at. my mom's house and now I'm a kind of. like look a little closer to the mic but. I kind of like moved to college and I'm. kind of like. you know having girls all over it's to. brag okay they don't have their moms. sign they want to do it anymore so they. want they don't want anybody else having. to tell them what to do I think you're. reading too much into that they just. won't have sex so we at the very.

beginning of the show we talked about. hookup culture. whose fault is hookup culture. oh women's women well let's let the. girls answer first go ahead. men or women whose fault is hookup. culture. I would like to get Lexi uh an. opportunity to answer. she's deep in thought pensive.

one eternity. if I really think about it I think. women slowly moved away from traditional. relationships as Maybe. I'm not saying hookup cultures like I'm. not trying to dictate women's actions. but. men become [ __ ] boys because there's. girls to [ __ ] and because there are. girls out there and it's there's a very. much a balance you can't have hoes.

without [ __ ] boys and you can't have. [ __ ] boys without. hose technically so it's very much a. balance but I don't really know. I don't really know who kind of. initiated hookup culture okay we'll go. around the table on this whose fault is. hookup culture actually I do have a. question why do we call like a guy that. [ __ ] a lot of girls fuckboy and why do. we call the girl that [ __ ] a lot of. guys a [ __ ] really good or a [ __ ] yeah. because it takes skill to get [ __ ] I.

don't think a [ __ ] boy is a positive. term though but it's definitely not. operating as like how or but but here's. another question why is fuckboy an. acceptable term to use but [ __ ] isn't. I feel like fuckboy is less degrading. than slime but but women. willy-nilly just throw out he's a [ __ ]. boy he's a [ __ ] boy even in like a a. mixed group you guys will say [ __ ] boy. if a guy was talking about a girl being. a [ __ ] in like mixed company.

yeah that's a yikes he's gonna get in. trouble like something's gonna happen. also probably in the classroom I feel. like if a girl said [ __ ] boy like. there'd probably be no repercussions but. like if a guy started talking about. [ __ ] like. welcome to the Dean's office. so women can shame men. but it's like if a man shames a girl. watch out you're gonna you're getting. canceled you're getting there's. repercussions I I mean I met guys that. have been called [ __ ] boys and actually.

liked it like not liked it but kind of. like or like yeah like. yeah they own it they own it it's an. accomplishment it is some of the guys. that really don't mind but I know. definitely girls do mine what's what's. The Greatest Prize a man can get in this. life. the greatest Pride yeah. a fish to accomplish whatever he wants. no no just for the like a big trout no. no no like like for the average man what. is the average man's great. accomplishment in life.

to be content oh to get a woman yeah. that's like a big victory in a guy's. life to get a woman. you know sexually. right and so that's like you're like oh. look at this guy he's such a [ __ ]. winner you know this guy's gotten so. many girls that you can't shame him but. the thing is you girls know like. inherently giving [ __ ] away too easy. kind of makes you look you know doesn't. make you look the best and that's the. difference there another thing is this.

too because you girls know I mean how. many of you got hit on today. to show a hands. no nobody got hit on today digitally DMS. oh yeah of course oh yeah we got to do. the Instagram. right so you guys get hit on like on a. daily basis but it takes a lot of effort. for the guy to actually catch your. attention and to give you like maybe to. give him the chance right. because if you give it to him too easy. what it's going to make it look like.

make it look easy. who's trying to look easy. no one. I see your point that. it. can you rephrase it. well what I'm just trying to say is that. it's women have high standards to give. away their sexuality. right yes. so if she's just if woman is giving her. sexuality away easily typically it means. her standards are lower. standards the lower technically not.

necessarily a high quality individual. for. a serious partner they might have. different standards than as partner just. sure but guys listen guys guys are not. going to judge a woman for a high body. count if she's just a casual hookup. but if he's like I want to make this. woman the mother of my children he's. going to look at everything. you know that's the difference there. so just going back to the original. question whose fault is hookup culture.

so women are once letting it happen here. I'll I'll just I want to let everyone. answer so whose fault is hookup culture. I do think woman because wow oh my God. okay I do see it whenever like whenever. I say go go go just answer answer I feel. like I'm saying something he's trolling. you at this point just continue I think. it is woman's fault most of the time.

because we're we're the ones giving it. to them if we don't give it to them then. it's not gonna happen okay. that's it sure. I think women and. because in a consensual situation. we have the control. and you can really deny reality but also. I want to touch I was trying to earlier.

but I want to touch on the topic of [ __ ]. boys and I really like I kind of have a. question like why is it an ego booster. when a guy can get with like multiple. girls but keep them for only a short. amount of period when it is far way more. impressive if they can keep one one. person interested for a long period of. time. no it's just because pussy's [ __ ] it's. like it's like you found some gold you. found a big piece of gold you found a. small piece of gold it doesn't matter.

you found gold like that's just how. that's how the male brain works men and. women sexual strategies are different. and it's somewhat rooted in evolution so. a woman can get pregnant how frequently. every night every once a year basically. right every nine months. um a man can impregnate uh three women a. day so there's something there that sort. of dictates our behavior and our. different sexual strategies. so and it's also it's harder for men to.

get women so it's kind it's more. impressive. although that's not really addressing. your thing so your thing is what could. you just rephrase your question again. yeah it's just I was just wondering why. what. why is it celebrated yeah like why is it. something to brag about when it is far. like more impressive when a man is able. to keep a woman interested for a long. period of time rather than a bunch for. attempt I got you because it's hard for. men to get lit it's very it's fairly.

hard for men to get lit whereas for. women that [ __ ] is easy science at. 49.99. some dudes stated steps and asked to be. rated with no pick rolling eyes face. Brian get some 25 to 35 year old women. on the show again I'd wait till there. are more. oh uh I'd wager there are more F boys. here in San Diego than Santa Barbara. from what I observed it's much harder to. get laid as a can you pull that up.

Carson I've missed the rest oh it hasn't. loaded yet um I think it's way harder to. get ladies as a city boy is that what he. was going to say something like that but. uh. it starts our stream yards loading. loading here so I was saying that it's. much harder for men to get laid that's. why it's impressive it's not. it's easy for women to get laid super. easy. so it's not that it's not impressive. Sarah meant easy men are easy yes but.

yeah they are extremely easy that's why. it's so funny when girls tell us they. can't get in a relationship with guys. we're like what's wrong with you because. we're so [ __ ] or maybe we're just not. finding a man that's that we want to be. in a relationship with. maybe that's the reason why some of us. aren't getting into a relationship maybe. some of us do want to be in a. relationship maybe some of us don't but. maybe it's because we're not finding. that high value man that we so badly. desire. but I'm answering why it's kind of.

impressive if a guy. hooks up with a lot of women whereas. it's not impressive for women to do that. is because it's about difficulty. it's hard to get laid as a guy it quite. easy to get laid as a woman. I guess y'all have. I'd say women. strictly about getting laid but honestly. even dating you all have that [ __ ] on. easy mode compared to men. y'all playing on recruit difficulty.

no you disagree. I've met a lot of guys where I was ready. to you know be in a relationship with. them and then for some reason they would. hook up with like other girls so yes men. are easy but that's probably why a lot. of men cheat because as long as they. have the opportunity to hook up with. another girl. some of them well and that's probably. why hookup culture still exists too. because yes it's women's fault but men. sometimes can't be really serious in.

their relationships and that's why well. the thing is just too like if if other. girls were working with you and like not. giving away so easily they'd be a lot. more faithful men around there. serious right now I'm just doing casual. we'll be here that a lot here yeah but. you still believe him and sleep with him. though. I don't. know personally I don't I know some. girls do but personally I if a man is. not giving me what I want I'm not gonna. give him what he wants what do you want.

well personally I do want to a little. closer to the mic I do want a. relationship I rather sleep with someone. that I'm with and comfortable than sleep. with other men but a lot of guys here. are like no I'm just like especially. like it's my first year or I'm just here. to have fun or my grandma died and this. is why I cheated you know well I mean I. would say it's it's difficult in college. because people especially at the party. school like UCSB or Santa Barbara City.

College it's it is more difficult but I. think part of the problem is women are. all sort of women are all chasing after. the top 10 top 20 of men. so you're chasing after the guys who are. most capable of. sleeping with a lot of women so why. would they settle down why would they. just pick one when they can have new. novel experiences all the time I would. say that. you know perhaps often I think women. Overlook men that would actually be.

dutiful loyal Partners but those men. typically are. you don't find them attractive they're. not exciting they're Maybe. uh women often like bad boys or you. often hear this Trope of wanting a bad. boy jerks [ __ ] all this [ __ ]. um. how often do you hear women say. something about the the vibe doesn't. exist right. I mean yes definitely the guys are like.

most likely to you know hook up because. you know they can get some girl so why. wouldn't sorry no I was reading a. comment are the girls throwing it at him. they're throwing it at him no. uh that you're right on that but I'm. just saying at the same time like. I feel like. being attractive shouldn't like matter. it should be what you feel and how. you're comfortable with. okay I think we had two of the girls. left but uh.

didn't even say bye Bud okay. um so we need to wrap here pretty simple. okay um so. whose fault is hookup culture I just. want to finish that really quick who I. don't know if did you go oh no. um like she said I think it's a balance. um you can't have one or the other. without the other like when people say. they have like in high school and people. were like oh my body count is so high. and mine is so low like who's lying here. like it's some it's a balance.

I think it's definitely women because if. women weren't putting out then men. wouldn't have the ability to and so. there wouldn't be any hookup culture. exactly. exactly so it's because women are. putting out and having sex with more men. more frequently they are controlling. that and men are obviously going to take. it because what else are they going to. do they're just going to you know not. take it like what Hey listen the fish. market can't be open if there's no fish. for sale. word but really quick around the table. on this. who controls access to sex men or women.

women. yeah so I would say hook up culture if. we want to see hookup culture stop. because well. women kind of control when sex happens. so. do you have anyone to blame but. yourselves on that one. do you know thoughts.

okay yeah crickets. Okay so. and also I I mentioned kind of. as it relates to. why it's impressive just bringing him. back to what you're saying about F boys. why it's impressive. for a guy to be of f boy I I don't. particularly me personally. like I've never been interested in just. running through a bunch of girls it does. it doesn't interest me as someone who's.

always been very focused individual I. don't have time it's it's a headache a. lot of time. with dating and I'm sure women relate to. this too there's a lot of [ __ ] that. comes with dealing uh like with dating. and there's people flake and it's just. I much prefer having a partner. and having something serious with her. and it does what also just the STD risk. it does not interest me I don't want to. like it's hard enough as it is dating. imagine like [ __ ] handicapping.

yourself and like getting herpes or some. [ __ ] imagine like the [ __ ] girl your. dreams and you have to disclose to her. oh by the way like I'm positive like I'm. like [ __ ] dude it's already hard enough. as it is so. for me it's just not worth the risk. um I've always preferred long I like to. sleep with a girl one time it's just. there's no point to it I much prefer. continuity I much prefer. long-term things and honestly even if. your motivation is strictly sex you're. gonna have I think the best sex with.

someone that you care about and love and. she loves you and you know what they. purely on a physical level you know what. they like she knows what you like. there's a comfort so I think uh me. personally I I don't I'm not really. interested in just having a [ __ ] huge. roster it doesn't interest me but. um. word so. but yeah just to bring it back to the. easy thing uh it's very difficult for. men to get laid so that's why it's. impressive. like an average girl.

could. sleep with a new guy every single day of. the week if she wanted to whereas like. for a guy to be able to sleep with a new. girl every single day of the week that's. like a top one percent guy. a lot of work that's like you gotta be. [ __ ] good looking have game probably. probably have status to pull that [ __ ]. off too. um you have to be bringing some quite a. bit to the table to pull that off so. it's I think there's a comedian I forgot.

his name but it's something like. it's easy to be a [ __ ] it's hard to be a. stud. okay I think they're hate me now okay no. I don't know I mean I guess it's just. like. it's not even I don't know how I've. encountered so many [ __ ] boys and not me. personally but just witness them like I. don't know how I've seen so many guys. that are [ __ ] boys but it's apparently. hard to get laid I mean obviously I.

don't know what it's like to get laid as. a as a male because I'm not a guy but. it's just hard I just I don't understand. and have witnessed so many have seen so. many [ __ ] boys or maybe it's just like I. don't know. you've seen a lot of [ __ ] boys well yeah. do you think there's more [ __ ] boys than. there are just like average dudes. working at McDonald's that are invisible. to most women. like most men are invisible to most.

women. well and this is backed up by data from. dating apps. women swipe left some of you on dating. apps like you probably swipe no on like. the vast majority of men. women are also much harsher grades of a. male's physical appearance than men are. of women's physical appearance well I. feel like it kind of goes back to the. easy part because. men are easy but finding a guy that. meets your desired like expectations and.

your standards is very hard it's hard. it's hard for you guys too it's hard for. us to find like a decent woman yeah I. agree with that like a woman that's like. not gonna be like crazy and [ __ ] talk. back and fight and cause like. everything's oppressing her like you. know what dude it's like there's some. crazy [ __ ] out there for real it is. hard for dudes too I get it it's hard. for you because it's harder for women. because once you give up. your body you know it's kind of like a. gamble like is this guy going to stay is.

this guy going to stick around you know. what I mean so it's harder for you I get. that but at the same time. this is the world you all made because. your homegirls are out there giving out. that cooch for [ __ ] basically free. because I I don't think men have really. changed. men we've kind of just adapted to the. new. Marketplace so. men's women's happiness is going down. every year men's happiness is kind of. just like putting wrong. you know it's slightly trending up.

yeah is it okay no women's happiness. since the 19 in America women have been. increasingly unhappy every single year. since I believe it was like the. beginning of the women's sexual. Liberation movement which is kind of a. joke too because like it was they. tricked women to. thinking like oh yeah you're going to be. really really really valuable by giving. yourself away to men very very cheaply. that's how you're going to be liberated. it's like and it's only beneficial to. the men yeah.

it's not helping women at all well it's. only beneficial to the top tier of men I. would say yeah yeah I guess yeah well. top percentage of men for sure yeah and. then I think it's bad for women I think. it's it's just bad forever bedroom it's. bad for everybody only in America is. this hookup culture. like experiment going on and it's. [ __ ] everybody's miserable well what. about like other Western countries too. like Canada yeah well America is leading. to pack you know what I mean Canada sure. look at them UK UK Australia is pretty.

miserable European countries in Western. Europe Eastern Europe's still very. traditional traditionalism works you can. sit around and [ __ ] cry about it and. I know we're in California you're. supposed to be all woke and all this. [ __ ] out here but look at these. people out here these people are [ __ ]. miserable too. so I mean people saying like you know oh. we can't go back to the 1950s because. you know we're in a modern age yeah we. are in a modern age and look at it how's. that going families are broken men are. upset women are upset everybody's. [ __ ] fat like we got to go back to. where we got to go back to the way it.

was it obviously it was working clearly. we're not heading in the right direction. look at people with mental health issues. all-time high. okay because we we put like materialism. out there I think materialism is better. we think hookup culture is better all. this trash that doesn't [ __ ] matter. what matters is families communities and. relationships you know all right let's. get these last four soup shots and then. we're gonna Rob red pill [ __ ] thank you. for the 20 soup shop what's up man I. really enjoy your show I've been tuned. in for about a month keep doing your. thing I'll say this your panels make.

fnf's panels look like relationship. valedictorians never nevertheless keep. up the great work MLD much love wait so. my panels make fnf's panels look like. valedictorians for real really I think. with the stuff she's been saying today. oh okay that's what he means okay uh Gus. 20 sweep chat these women are prime. example fit from fnf is writing the book. why women deserve less okay uh ladies. Our dating strategy is to get quantity. over quality yours is to get the best.

man you can retain after you hook up. yeah I think it's often phrased like a. men a man's metric of success is to get. the girl a woman's metric of success is. to retain that was actually originally. coming from me. a male loser is a dude that can't get. [ __ ] a female loser is a woman that. can't keep a guy because getting getting. it is one thing but retaining it and. keeping it is is a is the prize because.

most women don't say like oh yeah like. my dream is I want to you know go get a. degree and then like get ran through by. 20 dudes in my freshman year of college. right no they think like I want to marry. one guy I want to have the Dream House. with that guy I don't have kids and I. don't plan to like cheat on that guy on. the weekend with the pool boy or. anything like that that's the typically. What Women Want. all right we have Gus here twinkle. little. we have uh yo Derek what makes a high.

value woman 20 sleep chat good to see. man uh thank you for all the support. last uh show man really appreciate it uh. so really quick guys what do you think. makes a high value woman or did we. already talk yeah we might have already. answered it yeah Derek um. how about this just one one trait what. do you think makes a high value woman. for our boy Derek here respect okay. um proper love.

one eternity later. loyalty okay. caring sure commitment okay all right. Cameron Carlton 20 Super Chat Brian. Fisher brain dead and there's no excuse. to continue to be puffy into February if. you're not a vegan get it together man. um. wait I think he's just calling you fat. being a vegan oh pudgy Brian hello. um for not being a vegan no [ __ ] that.

um does anyone here a vegan or. vegetarian. I was vegetarian ah okay. Good Times. okay. so. before we wrap here. you wanted to talk a bit about. oppression do you still want to talk. about that. no you're good. yeah it's late. she's checked out she's she's done okay. so. unless anyone has a final thought I'm.

gonna wrap we didn't talk about makeup. much I don't know would you like to. touch on makeup I don't know we really. didn't touch on go go quick oh God quick. go. oh [ __ ] what can I say. um. makeup so if you guys don't know I had. this little video go viral from being on. here and it was me talking oh you guys. already saw it we already saw it you. already heard it sorry this water. um. shoot what can I say I have a question. for you oh yeah you don't like makeup. right but yeah you're wearing makeup.

right now right correct yes I do yeah so. I I saw your video and you were saying. like it's really bad for you for your. skin. um so why are you wearing it you know if. you're like. presenting this idea of no makeup you. should be the first one to come on here. and be like I'm not wearing any makeup. yeah no that's a really good point. honestly the only just as a little. borderline thing to say I only own. mascara I really don't wear like. Foundation or anything like that.

um. and so I think that me saying that it. comes from me saying what I said it. doesn't come from a place of like. wanting to put women down for wearing. makeup it literally if you go back and. watch the video my entire point that I. was trying to make was that it's not. good for Women's Health right so a lot. of women don't know this but a lot of. the makeup products that they own they. contain a lot of. carcinogenic. hormone disrupting thyroid disrupting. chemicals that can really affect your.

health. um and so I think that all of those. things are bad and I think if women want. to wear makeup I would strongly urge. them to move towards. um better Alternatives there are some. really great brands that are like. um not filled with all that crap you. know and so I think that that's the best. um way if you want to wear makeup but I. think there's also something else I'd. like to say about makeup and about how. it affects us you know as a society I. think it's really sad that women feel.

are you gonna say something no no I'm. just I'm listening intently uh I'm happy. to meet you. I think. makeup you know it started out as an. okay thing. but um I think it really is a poison to. our society the fact that women. typically I'm not saying all of them. obviously but I feel like a lot of women. don't really even feel the needy that. feel the. um feel that they can leave their house. without wearing it right like they have. it in their bags they have it everywhere. that they go and they're using it.

sometimes using it as a replacement. um to enhance obviously their natural. beauty right. and I think that it's important that you. can also enhance your natural beauty. through taking care of yourself you know. focusing on your health and not just the. mainstream Health that all these. influencers are telling you about like. don't drink your greens don't do all. that [ __ ] don't be vegan I swear to God. please like learn about your health as a. woman and I promise you will start to. glow glow from the inside out and you.

won't feel the need to wear makeup so. much anymore. um and that's my piece on it. Bravo. did you guys have a response to her. okay. do you want to talk [ __ ] about Natasha. huh no I. I agree with her I mean I like the way. you explained it it definitely like. sounded better than in the video. um but yeah no I respect that if you.

know you think it's not good for your. skin which a lot of products are not um. that's totally true I feel like a lot of. girls feel insecure without makeup and. it shouldn't be the case either so. okay anyone else final thought. speak now or forever hold your peace. okay. so uh by the way guys do you like the. new TTS voice the British thing whatever. um anyways guys thank you so much for. tuning in tonight you could have been. doing anything else but you were here. with me I appreciate that uh thanks to.

everyone who super chatted and supports. the show really appreciate it guys I. really appreciate you we got banned from. uh The Tick Tock creative fund a. six-month suspension we're still on Tick. Tock but they kicked us out I think it's. just because we talked about sex in one. of the videos and tick tock's really. strict with their Community guidelines. so it's a joke. yeah it's crazy so um it means even more. now that you guys are super chatting and. supporting thank you guys uh big thank. you to our wonderful panel uh those of. you that stayed for the whole show.

um I I really should go hang out with. her boyfriends I I really appreciate you. oh Mike Davis flying oh there he is um. where did you pull this dude in a suit. looking like an injury lawyer who hangs. out at the ER this is our resident. roaster Mike Davis thanks Mike yep. um yeah he's actually he represented me. in my uh my personal injury no I'm. kidding all right but uh yeah thank you. guys so much for coming really. appreciate it um I thought it was a good. panel I like that you uh pushed back. quite a bit I thought it was uh gotta. make things interesting yeah no it's.

good to have uh if it if everyone just. agrees with each other then it's just. kind of like makes for kind of a dull. show so I appreciate you uh bring in the. heat controversial yeah thank you for. bringing the heat. um. and uh yeah so thanks to our chat mod. Zach Candace Nemesis umeshi Blair thanks. to uh Carson excuse me top producers. filling in for Eric today he wasn't. feeling great thank you once again to. you guys for coming really appreciate it. guys we will be live again tomorrow I'm. doing a one-on-one interview with John.

MLD Modern Life dating about 2 p.m uh. will be then live again Tuesday with our. next dating talk show that's seven oops. excuse me that's 7 P.M Pacific uh Mickey. Mig 20 lawsuit chat check they're down. there's nothing but the headache okay. yeah just at the end there you have to. throw it in uh she adds no value and. it's just a complete pain shout out to. the big homie MLD shout out Brian P.S. Natasha is the perfect uh woman what is. her ethnicity she's gorgeous.

thank you my ethnicity. um I'm kind of a little bit of. everything I'm Italian and German and. Swedish and all that stuff. rock and roll okay. um yeah guys once again we'll be live. tomorrow for a one-on-one interview with. John around 2PM Pacific Tuesday dating. talk 7 P.M Pacific guys thank you again. once more so much for tuning in guys. we'll see you next time good night.