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I like your. your Lisa Gilroy impersonation. Oh my. god, I forgot about that. >> on an episode or was that Patreon? I was with you in this chair when I did. it. >> I can't remember what it was for though. >> I don't think I could replicate it. It. was so good. It's actually one of the better. impersonations I think I've heard. >> Thank you for saying that. Thank you. You want to try? No, not right now, but. like guys, you know, stay tuned because. it'll happen one day. >> Maybe it'll come back to you. Ah, here we go everyone.

It's going to be a good episode. I'm. excited. I know. I was like, "Where have. you been, Bella? Where have you been, Loca?". >> It's so funny cuz it's been what, like a. month and a half? But that feels like a. long time. That's actually. That's insane. I know. That's insane. Oh my gosh, yeah. I'm like I've just. been I don't even know what I've been. doing. Hospital. You've been having an. awful week. [laughter]. Like awful. >> for you, but No, it's like I'm still not. right and I appreciate everyone's.

comments so much because I felt like I. was going. absolutely nuts like not understanding. what was happening and like the doctor. not really being like worried about it. But so many people were like, "No, Cipro. is like a pretty serious med and like. it's probably this and this." And so I. did have to stop taking it cuz it was. just so so bad. But I'm still dealing. with like such lasting anxiety from it. Yeah. >> And it's insane cuz it's like usually. like I have anxiety at a baseline, but.

usually I can like distract myself or. work around it. It's like, "No, this is. just like a feeling of impending doom.". >> Yeah. And I'm like, "What the hell?" And. I'm so I'm like now I'm taking. probiotics and prebiotics and whatever. else I can like try to get my gut back. on track cuz it's probably the gut brain. whatever is working. I'm just like. Ah! >> [screaming]. >> I feel like every week I hear a new. thing that's affected by the gut. I. know. Like every week it's like, oh, and. that's actually because of your gut.

Just our bodies are insane. I literally. just saw a clip from The Basement Yard. and they were doing something with like. Dr. Mike eating hot food. And Dr. Mike. was like, eating hot food can actually. increase your risk of esophageal cancer. What? Okay, but like I can't I can't be. keeping track of that kind of thing. >> I'm already. >> like I'll mess up. [gasps] Like maybe. this is bad. I'll take the big ones. You. know, if you give me like a big warning, like, oh, you really shouldn't be eating. these kinds of eggs. I don't know. Don't.

know what that means. But I'll I'll I'll. listen, you know what I mean? But if. you're saying that hot food might. increase one of the cancers, I can't be. taking that into account. >> I I saw something about Nerds, too. Nerd. Nerds candy. If you eat more than like. 2,000 pieces a year, you're at an unsafe. arsenic level. Arsenic? Something crazy. >> How do Nerds have arsenic? I'm I'm going. to fact-check that. >> believe you, but no, but I'm glad you. are. >> Just in case.

Um so, there's an article that just came. out. More than 20 popular candies tested. positive for toxic levels of arsenic. I thought that this was something we. left in the '90s. Dude, it's insane. Like Black Forest Gummy Bears, Laffy. Taffy, Nerds. They're getting away with this. >> I'm just like it's it's everything good. I love candy. It's like it's literally. everything good. But if I were to get. Nerds in another country, perhaps ones.

that put less things into them, would it. be different? >> We should do some research. >> We should. >> We should do some research. >> podcast. I've wanted to start Down the Rabbit. Hole back up. I love that idea. >> I miss that show so much and it was so. fun like getting into the weird stuff. and like learning on the fly with. listeners and then having like listeners. that were experts literally chime in and. like I saw the comments about Henry Ford. and how the 9-5 work week was actually. good because prior to that the. Industrial Revolution and people were.

working way more hours per week and I'm. like I'm like I'm just trying to. normalize my weird sleep schedule and. get back to what humans were doing. before. >> Yeah. But now I'm like okay I want to. dive into the Industrial Revolution and. I then I want to get into like suffrage. and like women voting and. >> I feel like the Industrial Revolution. [ __ ] a lot of things. It's so. I don't know. I'm like I don't know. enough about it and our education system. not very good. So that's like one of my. favorite things to listen to podcasts. for though. Learn niche little things.

>> Yeah. Yeah. And I think you can just. keep a running list. Anytime there's. something that you're like I kind of. want to know more about that. And then. if you want to go back to in the rabbit. hole. Maybe we maybe we do this. Maybe we maybe we start back up. >> We got nothing but time Morgan. Let's go. Okay, let's get back into these weird. rare breed stories. Um people just kind. of being rare breeds in good ways like. special kind nice people which is a rare. breed but also there's some little. freaks out there. Yeah. There's some.

little freaks. And you always I I think. it's so special to find that still in. this day and age to still be surprised. Oh. You know what I mean? Cuz every. every week I'm like surely we've seen it. all. At this point there's no way. nothing can shock me anymore. >> I mean you sent me the title of the. story you found. >> Yeah. You guys just wait. Just wait. I. literally my jaw dropped. I put my. ACOTAR book down. Spoiler alert if you. haven't read ACOTAR skip a minute. I'm. on number three baby. We made it. [ __ ].

Tamlin. I'm just like I don't. She just got back from the Spring Court. >> [laughter]. >> I know. Okay, wait. That's like a huge I. know. Okay. And so I to stop to record this spoiler. But I'm just like, "Oh my god, it's so. good.". Now I'm warring. I'm warring with like. where my heart lies, though. Well, you. don't know if you like Fourth Wing or A. Court of Thorns and Roses I know. I. don't know. >> That's well. Yeah. >> It's definitely Fourth Wing for me, but. I feel like most people I talk to like A.

Court of Thorns and Roses. It's really It is really, really good. And then people are like, "You'll love. Throne of Glass even more." So, I'm. excited to keep reading. I actually. downloaded Good Reads and. >> [gasps]. >> when I get a little When I get a little. time this weekend. I'm going to smack my couch. I'm so. excited to be friends with you on Good. Reads. I don't read very like regularly, though. I go through binges. You might. be back in it now, though. Okay. This This feels like a a current era for. you. Okay, cool. Without further ado. Yeah. let's dive in.

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Mhm. It just didn't like in in like a. visual sense? Yeah. >> Like the types of spaces they like to. live in? Yeah, like this um top post is. really cool. 27 male, sucks at taking. photos, living alone with dog. And then. they share like a picture of their. living room just to be like. >> nice. >> This is my my space. And I'm like, this. is very nice for a boy. >> is like this is a nice this is a nice. sub, in my opinion. >> Well, you'll see when you when you see.

the post that I found. >> Living spaces. Can I do that? Sorry. >> Yeah, that was a great jingle. They. should hire you. So, this is titled this is my cheetah. room. I recently had an annoying roommate. situation end, so I now live alone and. have an empty room. I've decided to keep. the room empty with a single cheetah. painting and refer to it as my cheetah. room. I really enjoy hosting and I plan. to make weird rules around this room, like only one person allowed in at a. time, no talking in the cheetah room, no.

cell phones in the cheetah room, etc. I would love suggestions for rules or. other fun bits to do with an extra room. once this stops being funny to me. Also, yes, I'm planning to get a carpet. cleaner in there this weekend. That is. from the aforementioned roommate. situation. And then they share a picture of their. cheetah room. Wait, I love this. [laughter] I love. this. I. I really thought I find this beautiful.

>> I laughed so hard when I saw this. >> it's hilarious. I think it's inspired. >> Describe the room for people. So, it's. really just four walls, one sort of. grandmotherly single person chair in the. middle, and then a single photo of a. cheetah on the wall. And the chair is, you know, directly facing it as if it's. a TV. >> In the center of the room, too. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. Like no other. furniture, just like a like a wingback. chair. And I can't stress enough like. this is a very small room.

Yeah, it's giving. >> Like I don't know how a bed ever fit fit. in there. >> like 8 by 10. >> of what it was always meant to be. A cheetah room. >> room. This is This is whimsical. I will. say like. I think it's beautiful that they're able. to do that. It's It's shocking to me. because if an extra room opened up in my. home, like that would immediately be put. to work. >> [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? It'd be my my next. closet. >> I couldn't really We have We do have a. room in my house called scary room.

I'm sorry? It's sort of like just the. place we put stuff. >> Okay. And we don't really worry about. it. Aw. And it's like ah We'll get to it. when we get to it. >> Let's put all this stuff in scary room. Mhm. Yeah. I wish I had one of those. So, you do have an extra room. Yes, but. >> put it to work in a different way. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's I mean, it's full to the brim. So. >> [laughter]. >> That's wild. I would love a scary room. Good luck waiting through that room. Mhm. [clears throat]. It's almost like you're reminding me of. the um. in the Weavers' room in Avatar with all.

your little treasures. What? Everything. I'm like, you should have. Avatar piled. I've read the first two now in like four. days. So, I'm like, I'm deep in it. And. then I stayed up till 5:00 a.m. last. night reading. Oh, that's why you stayed. up so late. >> Well, I was also waiting for the episode. to upload. But I was like, ah I might as well read. >> I was like, oh my god, she can't sleep. until 5:00 a.m. Oh, no. You're having. the time of your life.

Don't worry about her. She's exactly. where she wants to be. >> started going cross-eyed. I'm like, I. got to go to bed. Then shower. It was. like, I got to go to bed. So, are people. happy about this? I I'm like trying to. understand the vibe of this sub Reddit. page. Has it made an appearance on the. sub before? >> found it on my home page. And then I saw. it and I just started giggling. So, the. top comment, say thank you to the. cheetahs when you're done in the cheetah. room. Right. Oh, the rules. Rules, yeah. >> So, people are contributing a lot of. rules. A really tiny museum-style roped-off. area right in front of it. Oh, that.

Yeah, be amazing. >> framed copy of the rules on the wall. outside the room. Maybe a red carpet. Ooh, that goes well with cheetah. >> Mhm, that's true. Someone says, "No. flash photography out of respect for all. of the visitors.". >> Well, obviously no phones. Mhm. >> That's already a rule, so. Flash photography feels like more. I don't know, litigious. Like it feels. more formal. >> Polaroids only. Yeah, yeah. Like this is. basically the Louvre, like no flash.

photography. >> Mhm. Can't disturb the art. But okay, I just loved it. I love the. little picture. I'd also like it if they. could add some kind of. maybe like activity or ritual that only. can happen in the cheetah room. >> Ooh. Like. I don't know, when they do their. their fantasy football draft, it has to. happen in the cheetah room. >> room. >> Or like, you know, I feel like it could. become a part of more than just being. there with rules. Like they could I like. that. >> incorporate it into tradition. I like. this a lot. >> Yeah, I don't know.

Cheetah room could it this could become. a big hit. He could sell tickets to the. cheetah room. >> Yes, yes. >> Sell those tickets. >> Yes. Okay, moving on to this next one. This is coming from AITAH. It is titled, "Am I the [ __ ] for sucking on my. partner's ziplock?". Okay. I know. I work from home and I make my partner. sandwiches to take for lunch. Now, when. making turkey sandwiches or whatever, if. there is air in the bag, any jostling. can separate the ingredients. So, your.

sandwich comes apart in the bag. I've. learned a great technique to fix this. when I was young and I've been doing it. forever now. When sealing the ziplock. sandwich bag, I leave a little gap and I. suck the air out before sealing it. closed. It's basically vacuum sealing it and it. makes it much sturdier. Today, my partner walked in on me doing. it and freaked out saying it's gross. That I'm getting my germs all over.

But I'm literally sucking all the air. out, not exhaling. No germs are being transferred. Am I the. [ __ ] for trying to make their lunch. safer and less volatile? I kind of feel that this has been a. great act of love. This [laughter] is such an act of. service. I That's one of my love languages. >> of love that they're doing Wait, what's. OP? Do we know? No mention of any. gender. No. >> Whatever OP is doing, it's coming from. their heart. I will say I'm on OP's.

side, but I have slight contamination. OCD myself and like I can't share like. drinks with people, spoons, like food. I. get just like spit in general. I'm weird. about. >> that with spit, too. She's like ice. cream cones she can't share with people. Yeah. >> Like cereal or spoons. So I'm kind of. getting maybe this person has that cuz I. don't know how else But aren't they. making out? Yeah, but it's different. The thing is like I could make out with. somebody and then if they were like, "Do. you want a sip of my water?" I'd be.

like, "Ugh." You know what I mean? It's. like the fact that the cold the spit has. been put into the air and then now I. have to. It freaks me out. >> Hearing the rationalization, like I'm. trying to rationalize my way to get. where you are. It's so fascinating. Interesting. It's. not It's not striking a chord with you. Okay, so someone like Well, someone. takes a. >> when you visibly see a loogie. Like if. you could see it in then I'm like. Someone takes like a spoonful of ice. cream and then they offer you that.

>> see There was a jewel on the spoon. >> Yeah, and then they offer you that. spoon. >> You and Lauren are like two peas in a. pod. >> It feels like that. You know? Wow. >> So, but I don't know I don't know if the. their partner feels that way or is this. just Is this just. >> just don't like them very much. Maybe. Cuz I would have I would have seen this. as a great life hack. I've never thought. of this. I've never heard about this. Yeah. I literally always struggle to. like smoosh things as I try to like get. the last bit of air out. So, I'm like. this is I'm going to try this. I'm going.

to do this. >> I'd laugh about it. I'd be like this is. so silly and funny that you've been. doing this all all this time, but I. don't know. I'm curious if anyone else is like, "Yeah, that's disgusting." Well, the top. comment says, "I wouldn't find it gross. if my partner did it, but I think yours. is perfectly entitled to not want you to. do it to their lunch as well. Also, do. you truly believe there are no germs. involved just because you aren't. exhaling?". And I was going to say like you're still. putting your lips on it. Yeah. Like.

there's some transfer. So fair. Obviously, if this person. doesn't want them to do it anymore, it's. very fair to say that and you know, and have that be respected, but it's. it's surprising to me. I mean, I feel like people can have. these like irrational little things like. boundaries. Like this would probably be. like, "Hey, please don't suck the air. out of my Ziploc." Like that would be. like a boundary that this person could. have. And it's like. there's like these little unserious.

things in life where it's like I'm going. to respect your boundary even if I don't. understand it, but it's like that's just. what we do. >> Their relationship will survive this. >> [laughter]. >> You would hope. I mean, a lot of people start to go a. little goofy though. They're like fewer. germs involved than sex. Totally. That. was my first thought as well. It's like, "Okay, you are But then that makes me a. little hypocritical, so." Someone else. says, "Fewer germs involved than the. actual making of the sandwich.". True. True. Their hands are all over.

that sandwich when they're making it. >> manhandled, man. Yeah. Manhandled. Or. woman handled. I don't know. It's hard. to say. >> [laughter]. >> It's all mysterious with this story. Oh, man. Okay. Let's get in to the thick of it. That's a nice little Ooh. >> light-hearted warm-up for us here. This one is coming from Am I the. [ __ ]. It is only an hour old right now. Oh, wow. I was like really I'm like I'm. giving people fresh today. Fresh.

sandwiches vacuum sealed. >> Mhm. Yeah, that one um. that one's only 6 hours old. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, chea- cheater room 7 hours old. >> [laughter]. >> Look at me go. This is titled, Am I the [ __ ] for. sending my brother's fiance a video of. him hiding her ring? As my brother's wedding was in 2 months, last week my parents hosted a small. engagement dinner. Just family, a couple.

of friends, and nothing too fancy. While there, his fiance took off her. ring in the kitchen because she was. helping our mom wash dishes. She put it. on a small plate near the sink, and 20. minutes later the ring was gone. Panic set in. Everyone looked under the. table, in the trash, in the pipe. She. was crying. Then my brother said that I was the last. one to touch the counter near the sink. That was almost true. I'd been helping. my mom clear away the glasses and had.

moved a couple of plates, but I hadn't. seen the ring. I told him so. My brother. replied that he wasn't accusing me, but. if anyone had accidentally knocked it. into the sink or trash, it would be. better to say so now. After that, everyone started asking if I. was sure that I hadn't seen a small. plate. My mom asked if I might have. accidentally thrown a napkin next to the. ring. No one called me a thief, but they. made me the convenient scapegoat while.

my brother stood by playing the. concerned fiance. We checked everywhere, but no sign of. the ring was found. Later, I remembered that my parents have. a camera by the back door, and I asked. my dad to send me the footage. The video. I got showed my brother walking into the. kitchen, taking the ring from the plate, looking at it, putting it in his pocket, and then a couple of minutes later. coming out and saying the ring is gone.

Oh my god. I called him. He said that he. wanted to teach his fiance a lesson so. that she would be more careful. >> Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I told. him he had until morning to confess on. his own and say sorry to me for accusing. me. He refused, asked me to delete the. video, and didn't even say that he. regretted doing so. In the morning, I sent the recording to. his fiance. >> Nice. I don't know what argument they. did have, but now he says I ruined his.

relationship because of a stupid check. Mom thinks I should have given him. another chance, but from my perspective, he not only tricked his fiance and hid. the ring, but also tried to make me feel. guilty for his own game. Am I the. [ __ ] I'm on OP's side 100%. I I was. open-minded. I was like, "Oh, maybe. he was he took it because he wanted to. get it resiz- customized or something. and was like blaming it on his brother,

but then was going to go to him later. and be like, "Sorry, I had to make a. real" I don't know. But then when it was. just to teach her a lesson about being. more careful, she actually hasn't lost. the ring. So, clearly it's been fine. It's fine. Like, why are you acting. so weird and manipulative to. >> Very manipulative. her a lesson? Why not. just like say, "Hey, babe, like I I see. your ring is kind of exposed on this. dish. What if it fell into the sink? Like, I'd I'd appreciate it, you know, if you were a little bit more careful.

with it so we don't have to replace it. and worry about it.". >> That sounds really easy. >> [laughter]. >> Like, that sounds Bam. >> Sounds like a really easy way to handle. it. Yeah. Healthy. >> [laughter]. >> This is It's scary. So weird. Yeah, and. then to like bring OP into it for no. reason to be like, "Well, if anyone did. it, it would have been you." I guess I'm. not accusing or anything. Right. >> Just saying it'd be better if if, you. know, we we recognized it now. I guess. that's something that a guilty person. would do though, right? Like Throw.

people off Yeah. Try to give a different. suspect. Mhm. >> Because no one would have thought it was. him anyway. But he's feeling guilty, so he's like, "I have to put it on someone else.". Such a weird behavior. I hope they did break up. >> I know. I hope so. >> I'm going to teach you a lesson about. lying. I don't know. I want the fiance to find this and like. I want their side. Top comment at this. point. Not the [ __ ] You just saved. his fiance from years of manipulation,

gaslighting, and grief. Yeah, because it's you know It sounds. like a fairly normal feeling to be like. "Hey, it bothers me that you're not. super careful with your ring. I've spent. a lot of money on that. I'd really. appreciate if you did this." And there's. just. so many more ways to go about saying. that, especially like. if you're engaged to this person and. planning a life with them. Like that's. the communication you can expect on all. of the rest of your life decisions.

>> I know. No, thank you. I mean, a lot of. people just go off in the comments. He. was trying to gaslight her. If this ends. his relationship, he only has himself to. blame. Screw your brother. What an awful. person. Definitely not on you. Very. obvious not the [ __ ] And anyone that. takes his side, remind them he literally. stole from her and then tried to blame. it on you. Your brother's a complete. jerk and incapable of self-reflection. >> Was he planning like is he giving it. back? Like was he planning on giving the. ring back and being like we found it in. the pipes? Like What? Yeah, what was the.

the end game here? >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz he he put it in his pocket. That's a really good point. When was. this going to come about? Because. it didn't even sound. like there was a moment that the ring. did appear. Yeah, no. >> It sounds like OP asked dad for the. video. OP figured out, oh yeah, my brother took. it, said to brother, "Hey, I found this. out." But like there's no mention of. like, oh he gave the ring back. >> Yeah. I wonder if there's any comments from OP. yet. It is like still very fresh, so I'm.

not sure, but him like pretending that. he went under the sink and went into the. pipe being like, "Babe, I found it, but. don't ever do that again.". >> Yeah. >> Playing the hero about it. >> that's almost. like just as scary as how manipulative. he is trying to teach her a lesson where. it's like you're being so deceptive and. then trying to make someone think you're. the hero. You make her feel guilty that you caused. Yeah. >> is that? That almost sounds like.

Munchausen's. What? >> But but not no. Am Am I on to something? This is I'm like, what is that? You. literally create a problem in someone's. life or you you like tear them down, but. then like come in and try to make them. feel better. There has to be a like a therapy. psychological term for that because. that is such a thing. There's something. here. I'm [sighs]. not seeing. >> Colton from The Bachelor did that to. Cassie. He was like pretending to be her.

stalker and then like in person to be. like, "Oh my god, like I'll keep you. safe.". It's insane. I I still can't believe he was on. Traders. Yeah. Goofy. Someone says to OP, "Your brother needs. a reality check. I suppose I should have. said he needs to hear she did nothing. wrong by removing her ring before. cleaning.". OP responds, "I hope he gets it and at. least apologizes to both of us.". Yeah, also feel if she didn't remove her. ring during cleaning, that could also be. dangerous. It could get knocked down the.

sink during cleaning just as easily or. it could get. >> tarnished? Is that a thing? >> I mean, I've had a ring I put hand. sanitizer on and it fell off my finger. >> Yeah. And I just you just don't it. didn't I didn't feel it. >> Now imagine soap. >> Soap? And then and then it goes down the. drain. Like it was it was safer in a. dish. like on the counter. Yeah. OP says that. the fiance is still shocked with the. video. That's so conniving, too. And it's also. like you will live in a constant state. of questioning things because the only.

time you actually got the truth was when. there was a secret camera. Like. >> Yeah, he probably would have lied until. then. I've experienced that in. relationships where like I had to catch. that like find the proof myself to have. the truth about something and then it's. like I have no way of ever believing. I'll know the truth about things unless. I go out of my way to like. find it. Like I could never get that. from you. And it's like there's no way. you can build on that. >> a story we're going to go to next cuz. it's kind of that vibe. Um but last.

comment I kind of see here from OP, they just say it's really sad to see a. relative become such a person, which is. more sad. People at such an age rarely. change much. Basically being like Yeah, that's who he is. >> someone a lesson, like he's not really a. good person and. probably not going to change now. Yeah, I wonder if he's learning a lesson from. this. It just feels like the kind of. person who. doesn't. But I don't know. I don't know either. >> Losing your fiance and having your.

family be like, wait, you're kind of. insane. Has to be a moment in your life. where you do some inner reflection and. if you don't, you're woefully incapable. of it. So Sounds like a good plan. I. hope they figure it out. We're going to move on to this one from. relationship advice cuz it kind of. reminds me about that what you're. bringing up about like having to do. digging to find out if someone's lying. or not. >> Yeah. And I I feel like I've been faced. with that where it's like you might have. someone in your life and you like start. to catch on and you're like, I think. they're But you feel so crazy until the.

day you're finally vindicated and then. you're like, oh, I haven't been crazy. this whole time. >> No, and it's like it also is such a bad. feeling when you start to realize your. friend is lying to you and you're like, are they a pathological liar or am I. just being weird? Like am I being a. [ __ ] Am I like overthinking this? And. you're just like, I've had that, too. >> is this is like this is crazy. This is. too much. >> It It can't be such a coincidence after. coincidence that people and me are. catching them in lies. >> And you never pick up on it right away. because people like aren't assuming that.

someone's lying to them. It does take a. while to catch on to that type of person. because you're just like, oh, they have. a lot of cool stories. It started to get really bad when I. would have lived those experiences with. her. Yeah. >> we'd be around other people and the way. that the story got retold and like. >> Yeah. everyone is embellishes. >> embellishes or like forgets minor. details or whatever, but like it would. be like so drastically of like we were. in the same room with this person and.

then it would like the story would. change to be like, no, we were talking, hanging out with this person, and. playing beer pong with them. And I'm. like, we didn't even talk to her. What what Well, that's scary. And I'm. like, okay. This episode is brought to you by Skims. I used to really struggle with finding. good underwear before I started wearing. Skims. They would bunch up, they'd get. pilly, they wouldn't stretch enough to. cover all of me. Skims is different. The. fabric of Skims cotton jersey full brief. is pretty life-changing. They're never.

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sub four. Since we met 6 months ago, we. have discussed this regularly. I've. watched him train, helped him fundraise, and supported him emotionally up until. the big day. On the day of, I was unable to watch him. in person due to reasons out of my. control. So, instead, I asked him for. his bib number so I would be able to. track him online, and my parents went. there to support him in person. On the day, I logged on to track him to. see how he was getting on about an hour. into the race, only to discover that his.

name had not been registered. Initially, I thought that this was. because he was potentially registered. under the name of the charity he was. running for. And instead, I decided to. track him via his Find My iPhone. As he went through, I continued to send. screenshots to my parents of his. location so they would know roughly when. to expect him. I continued to check. every half an hour and eventually. noticed that about 2/3 of the way into. the route, he had stopped at the.

headquarters of the charity that he was. running for. His location remained there. for 45 minutes. He then sent me a photo. of him with a medal, claiming that he. had just completed the marathon. I called my parents to say that he had. finished and asked them if they had seen. him cross the finish line where they. were standing and they said no. At the same time, I messaged my. boyfriend to ask if he had seen them and. he claimed that it had been so busy that. he hadn't noticed and to just tell my.

mom and dad to go home. At this stage, I started to wonder if. potentially he had pulled out of the. marathon halfway through and didn't want. to talk about it just yet. After some further investigation, I now. know that he did not run the full. marathon. Instead, he ran with a. five-person relay group who each did a. fifth of the route. I've not confronted. him about this yet, but I have been. really distressed by how blatant of a. lie this is. He continues to claim that.

he completed the full 26.2 miles and I. keep thinking back to how he lied to my. parents and friends' faces, most of whom donated towards him running. a marathon. This isn't the first time he. has lied to me. Typically, they have. been small white lies about. insignificant things, but this feels. huge. It's been weeks and I still haven't yet. brought up the fact that I know he lied, mainly because I know he will likely.

just double down. I can't help but wonder if he's lying. about this, what else could be going on? I feel utterly betrayed and I don't know. how to deal with this situation. Is it. worth continuing a relationship with. someone who can clearly lie so easily? This is such a weird thing to lie about. When you were initially saying this, I. was like, oh, okay, so was he lying. about, you know, doing a marathon and. training and running because he's having. an affair and that's like an excuse of. where he's been all this time?

>> training. >> Yeah, but she has his location and he. actually did do a part of the marathon. He's just lying about doing the whole. thing? Like for what reason? It's so. >> Ego? I guess. But like. That's kind of weird. >> And also, he knows she has his location. He knows that she asked for his bib. number to track him. I think knew that. her parents were going to be there, too. So, like with all of those factors, he.

still lied? Like that's another. situation where. if you're willing to lie under these. stances, then I cannot imagine the. things that you would do if you could. get away with more. Because. there were so many reasons to be worried. about getting caught. I'm like, maybe it's an ego thing. Maybe. um OP misunderstood, but I'm like, I. don't think they misunderstood when he's. still then claiming to be like, "No, I. ran the full 26 Yeah. miles.".

>> the doubling down and saying, "I ran the whole way.". >> thing. >> It's like, you didn't, and that's okay. It's fine. It's It also would have been. fine if you just got tired halfway. through. It still would have been. impressive. >> You could have ran a mile and I'd be. impressed. >> Yeah. I like. >> Absolutely. Running and me, I'm like, I. wish I could run, but I'm just I don't. run. >> at all. >> in the cards for me. I could do a lot of. things. I Running I don't think is one. of them. >> I'm going to try to like. like I want to have a goal to like just. run down my street without stopping.

Like as of right now, I can only get one. block and then I have to walk. So much. >> Let's do this together. This would be a. great little activity. I just want to. just like I know it's like .4. Down my. street is .4. And I'm like, I think that. for the safety if I ever encounter a. bear would be a good thing to have under. my belt. For me, it's just more the. action of running. It just feels too. jostling to me. Oh, my boobs? I need. double double sports bras. I don't need. that. It's They're strapped. They are strapped.

down. Oh. Yeah, this is crazy. I The jostling. >> [laughter]. >> Yes. My whole body. Like, I don't know. Um yeah, I I don't understand it. I I. understand also why this would be a. weird situation to be in as a partner. because it's like technically he's not. lying about something that's so. consequential. to your relationship or like it's not. hiding this terrible awful thing he did. It's just this weird. I almost feel like he just needs to go.

to therapy for for lying? Insecurity. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like. >> [sighs]. >> Wha- why? Like again, if you get down to. the why To what end? Exactly. And I. think OP even saying like I'm just kind. of sketched out because I've noticed a. lot of other white lies. about insignificant things and I I do. think it's interesting when people will. lie so much about insignificant things. and it's like. W- why? I feel like [clears throat] I. >> sikes me out. >> I used to struggle with arguing about.

inconsequential things Okay. and feeling. the need to be right and like prove that. I was right. And this feels kind of. similar in a way where I had to. eventually realize the other person. doesn't care that I proved myself right. No one is impressed by this. Like, I'm. not Yeah. >> seriously, like and it feels like the. lying too where. you have to get to a point in life where. you realize like I don't know what I'm. doing this for because it is some kind.

of ego thing, but it's not real. Like, this isn't actually making people think. better of you. >> Do you feel like though cuz I I really. relate to that, but I think for me I do. it because it's like almost like a. It depends on what it is, but it's. almost like this defensiveness of like. I don't know. I'm just like I'm trying. and like almost like the people pleaser. side of it where you just like want. people to like understand your rationale. behind things. I think that can. sometimes be it, but I think what I was. doing previously was a little bit more.

ego-driven. >> Okay. >> [laughter]. >> To be honest. See, for me, I'm just like, I'm just I'm. not I'm not trying to be mean. I'm like, uh, I'm just like. >> like over-explaining yourself? >> Over-explaining, yeah. Yeah, that too. That too, for sure. I'm just like, uh. But, I don't know. I think that this is. a quality that would be very difficult. to have in a long-term partner. I I I do think if he could work out why. he does this, there's like the potential. for things to be okay. But, if this is a.

pattern, yeah, if you lie about something like. this, why would I have any reason to. believe you're not lying about the big. things? Exactly. And that that's kind of. what the top comment starts picking up. on. Yeah. Top comment, with almost 3K. upvotes, "This is an extremely bizarre. thing to lie about, in my opinion. And. if, by your own admission, you've caught. him in other white lies before, this. makes me wonder what lies you haven't. caught." Yeah, exactly. "I'm really. concerned about the fact that you. mentioned people donated money towards.

his marathon for him. He's way too. comfortable lying and taking from people. in his life. Confront him and leave him. before he lies about something. significantly worse.". Yeah, and it's just so important to have. trust and to feel like, oh, if I go to. my partner about a thing, I can believe. what they tell me. Mhm. >> And if you can't feel that way, that's. terrible. You know, OP does comment back. to someone who was also concerned about. the money and was like, "You need to get. the money back from people." It's for. charity, though. And so, OP does confirm.

>> Yeah. "I can confirm that the money. raised definitely did go to the charity. And it seems like a lot of his family. who donated the majority did understand. that he was only running a relay. My. main guess is that he lied to make. himself seem better. I'm not sure if. that at some stage he was meant to run. the full marathon and then dropped down. to the relay closer to the time and then. lied out of insecurity. No, and you know, I can't run at all. So, this is coming.

Did I say lie or run? I don't know. I. can't run at all. So, this is coming. from like not a fair place. Yeah. >> But, going from one person to fully five. people is so funny to me. Like, you. couldn't have even done like a. two-person like a halvesies. Yeah. Cuz, what is that? It's 5. 3. miles? >> doing other other marathons, right? Like, he was doing he did an under. 4-minute mile or something like that. >> No, so sub-4 is like What's that mean? You run the whole marathon under 4.

hours. Like, a lot of people have crazy. goals of like a sub-3. So, you literally. like your pace like to do a sub-3, it's. like. I don't know what is that? Like, 7-minute miles? And see, I actually can in my mind. picture the type of person who would do. a relay and then be like, "Yep, and that. was a sub-4 that I did." And it's like, of course, because you only did a fifth. of it. I I know. And I'm like, that is. cool, but like also you had five people,

so you're all kind of fresh and only. running five, not the full. >> Yeah. And yeah, so like a sub-3. marathon, which is like a big goal for a. lot of people, you have to run basically. 6 minutes and 52 seconds per mile. Like, do you remember running the mile. in high school? >> So, the issue is that I have no concept. of how long a mile should take. I I. mean, people walk a mile I think in like. 18 minutes. Oh, okay. I could run a mile. On. average, it takes 15 to 22 minutes to. walk a mile. I could run a mile. I just.

wouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't enjoy the. experience. >> non-stop? For a mile? I don't think I could run. non-stop. You know what? Let me Let me visit with. a treadmill. Let me visit with a. treadmill. Maybe you should just go to a. track. Four laps. Give it a go. Oh, I remember that that was miserable. I have no interest in doing that. I. literally went [laughter] like I. remember running the mile in high. school. Running the circles. >> And at my [ __ ] physical peak, that. [ __ ] took me so long.

>> I was always a walker. The [laughter] burn in your lungs. >> sprints. I actually I was good at. sprints at the time. I used to. >> I used to be too and then I tried racing. my like 7-year-old nephew in the Mall of. America the other day. >> [ __ ] beat me. Oh, no. I'm like, what. the [ __ ] And I'm like I didn't I wasn't. properly packed down, you know, so it. was a little hard. >> yeah. I'm like, still. I'm like I'm out. of I got to Well, only 7 years. He's got. a lot to run for. He's got a lot to live. for. I know. He's a He's got dreams. ahead. That's No, I can't.

>> dreams ahead. >> He's chasing them. I just can't. I once. [snorts] you put it in the perspective. of doing the laps in high school, I was. like, never mind. Yeah, take that back. But I do want to just run down my. street. But. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Weird thing about the. lie about um again, a lot of people very. concerned about the money. OP is like, no, like it did go to charity. That's. the only thing he didn't lie about. Apparently, it's not uncommon where OP. is from that marathons will allow for. relay teams to run to raise money for. charities. This involves official stops.

where you pass a baton onto the next. member for the relay. You run amongst. the other runners, but just take a. different turn at the end of your leg. I wasn't paying attention to his. location for the first hour as I knew it. would likely take him a few hours to. finish. When I checked for the first. time, he was only beginning his run. Plus, I didn't know the official route. And again, all of that is fine. It's. just weird to double down and be like, no, I did the entire full thing. I think. people are kind of confused like why.

haven't you talked with him about this? >> Mhm. And so OP does reply to that person. that asked that. I guess fear that I'm. wrong. As far as I'm aware, I'm the only. person who has picked up on the fact. that he didn't do the full marathon. I. do believe that he did not do the full. marathon that day, but he is. unbelievably convincing, and I'm. concerned about how he will react. I've. also been abroad since a week before the. run, so we haven't spoken in person. I. thought OP said that his family knows. that he didn't that he did the relay. I.

know, but like maybe on her side or like. friends. It does I could understand this being a. situation where when she does bring it. up, she's just met with such severe. gaslighting about it that it doesn't. feel worth it. But then you're you're 6. months in. Don't don't be with this. stupid guy. >> 6 months in? 6 months in. Oh, easy out. 6 months. >> Really easy out here. Since we met 6 months ago. Met 6 months ago. Oh my god, girl.

Girl, run. >> Talk about running. Run. Get those little New Balance shoes on. and run. I would run the high school. mile for that, I'll tell you. That's the. one time I would, to get away from this. guy. That's so funny cuz earlier I was. like, you know what? Thinking maybe get. past this. No, there's no need. I don't think there is. There's no need. to. >> No, pack it up. Mhm. >> Pack it up and go. Okay. On to our next one here. This next story is brought to you guys. by State Farm. How does that saying go?

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home and telling her that I'm not a fan. of her art.". >> [laughter]. >> Okay. My daughter-in-law has been married to. my son for a few years and she has a. side gig of making art. She has a habit. of giving paintings to friends and. family as gifts. I think most people. like them, but for me, I'm not a huge. fan of her art style. I am much more of. a nature person than someone that wants. scenes with people. Also, when she paints people, they are.

stylized. My husband and I bought a house and we. have fully moved in. My daughter-in-law. gave me a painting of someone sitting at. the beach because she knows we like the. beach. I don't like it. The woman in the. painting looks off. Her legs are too. long. She's too curvy. I know it is her. style of painting, but I just don't like. it. At the time I got the gift, I. thanked her for it and I thought that. would be the end of it. I put the. painting in the garage and kind of. forgot about it. I bought an ocean. painting for the living room. My.

daughter-in-law visited the other day. cuz she wanted to pick up some of our. old 4th of July decorations. Our house. is smaller, so we are purging. decorations. We were in the garage and she saw the. painting there. She was surprised and asked why it. wasn't in the house. I told her I didn't have a spot to put. it. She kept pressing and mentioned that I. got a new painting for the living room. I told her again that I don't have a. spot for it. She then picked up the painting and said.

that she could help find a spot. I told her no. She asked why not and I decided to be. honest. I told her I'm not a fan of her. artwork. She got quiet after that and I gave her. the decorations. I got a call from my. son that he was mad. He told me I need. to apologize and hang up her painting, that his wife has been crying and it. took her hours to make. I told him I'm not hanging it up and. that resulted in an argument. I need.

some opinions. I feel like it's my. house. I can decorate it how I want. Am. I the [ __ ]. Wow, I I'm very torn on this. I kind of. feel like they're both [ __ ] a little. bit. Is that crazy? Um. I have a really hot take. And maybe it's. not a hot take. We don't want to hear. it. So. I really really. don't think you should gift people art. Mhm. I don't think that's a hot take. >> I feel like art Or I do think it's a hot.

take, but I I don't think it's crazy. >> Yeah, I I agree. I just feel like art is. so personal and subjective. And you really have to love something to. put it up on your wall. >> Mhm. So when someone gifts you ginormous. pieces of art it is like appreciated. Like you don't you don't want to feel. disingenuous and like you don't. appreciate it because you do because. it's nice that someone's thinking of. you. Yeah. >> But then to be like forced to put.

something on your wall or find a place. for it or store it because you can't. donate or give aways. art that someone gave you. Like. >> Yeah. >> You're kind of stuck with it. Yeah. And. then you have the potential for issues. like this. Yeah, I I. if I were the artist and I saw it in the. garage, my feelings would be hurt for. sure. And I think there's maybe a way. that it could have be could have been.

said that would have. been better, but also she was really. pushing. about it and kind of wouldn't just let. it go. And I think in that kind of. moment you have to take the L a little. bit and and sort of realize what they're. saying without forcing them to say it. >> Mhm. Like, okay, I get the hint. This is. in the garage. Like you don't like it, but that's okay. It was a gift. And the. meaning of a gift is it's something that. I did for you and whether you like it or.

not, like that's not your. responsibility. Like a gift it shouldn't be like a. burden to somebody. >> I know and that's the hard part about. art. >> Yeah. I think if someone asked you for. your art, that's a different story. If. they're overly expressive like I love. that, that's such a beautiful piece, then it's probably going to be more. received. >> Yeah, but a ginormous painting Yeah. >> It's a that's a tough one. Because OP. does have an edit. It is 26 by 36. So 2.

ft by 3 ft. >> Which probably took a lot of effort, too. But it's just Yeah, it's one thing. if someone you know their favorite. artist and you it matches other things. in their collection and. whatever and then it can be like such a. personal special gift to give somebody. >> print. >> Yeah. >> If it's a 12 by 12. >> yeah. That's that's manageable. That's. You know, whatever. Could she have maybe. put it up in like a guest room if they. have a guest room? Probably.

>> So OP does add in the edit, we. downgraded our house. There is no place. to put it that I won't see it every day. We have one bathroom, two bedrooms, one. that is my office, the living room and a. kitchen. The basement is my husband's. workshop. He doesn't like it either. I. seriously dislike how she does portions. I don't like that the waist are tiny and. the butts and boobs are huge. Not my. type of artwork. I don't like it. I. don't wish to decorate my home with art. I don't like and I have to see it every. day. If I gave her artwork, I wouldn't.

expect her to hang it up in her house if. she didn't like it, even if I spent. months on it because it is not my house. Yeah, what would you do in this. situation? I'm in this situation. Really? Oh, yeah. So what are you doing? Are you keeping. it a secret? Are you I don't know what. to do. Switch it out whenever they visit, like. It is in the guest room. up against a wall currently. I'm in this and this is a delicate. thing. I don't know. Would I ever tell that. person that I don't like their artwork?

No. No, especially I don't have the. gall. If they are the ones who painted. it especially. >> Yeah, I don't think you're the [ __ ]. for not putting it up. No. I. definitely think you could have maybe. placated her a bit more nicely like we. just moved in. I'll find a spot. eventually. Let time pass. Let it sit in. your garage. If it continues to be an. issue, talk to your son. Pull him aside. Yeah, I think. if I were in the situation, I don't.

know. It's hard because I would probably. have a little bit more just innate. fondness for art that my daughter-in-law. created for me. Like it would maybe. surpass the oh, I don't know if this. goes in this room for me, but I don't I. also don't think that that's a necessary. way to feel about it. >> Mhm. And I I think that the. daughter-in-law was very forceful about. how she responded. >> Weird. That behavior is weird. >> Yeah, and I get the pushing. Again, I do. get seeing it in the garage and being.

like disappointed and sad and a little. hurt by that. Of course. I think that. that that's a very normal reaction to. have to it. I just think that you have. to kind of have an awareness if you make. something for someone like. I'm taking a risk here. I hope that they. like it. I'm doing this because I want. them to be happy and if having this. isn't going to make them happy, then. then they shouldn't use it. Cuz then why am I getting them. something? Then it's for me and not for. them. Yeah. [clears throat] Top comment, not the [ __ ] When you give someone a.

gift of artwork that you made yourself. and you don't see your artwork hanging. up, that should be enough of a clue. Mhm. There isn't really a polite way to. tell someone, "Thank you for giving this. to me, but I'd really rather you keep it. because there's no way I'm ever going to. hang it up in my house.". She found it in the garage. You told her. you did not have a place for it, and. that should have been sufficient for her. to get the hint. Continuing to insist. that she herself was going to help find. a place to hang it was rude and. invasive. Why are we not okay with.

mother-in-laws telling daughter-in-laws. how to decorate, but suddenly we're okay. with daughter-in-law deciding how the. mother-in-law should decorate? If this. person is old enough to be married, she. is old enough to have the maturity to. recognize that not everyone on the. planet is going to enjoy her work. Mother-in-law wasn't rude in the least, but as soon as daughter-in-law tried. overruling her and insisted on finding a. place to hang it, daughter-in-law. absolutely crossed a line. Yeah. 12K upvotes. It's also very. understandable for someone to just not.

like your art style. I feel like that's. something that. artists understand and know. Like you. could have a. a family member who's like, you know. what, I'm not interested in podcasts. And you'd be like, all right. Cool. You. know what I mean? Like you have to. Hearing my own voice is annoying too. sometimes. I don't love editing. I think. a lot of people who create something. know like, oh, this isn't for everyone, but that doesn't mean that it's. completely devalued to them that I do. it. >> Mhm. Especially with art, like.

It's in the eye of the beholder. >> Yeah. Yeah, we don't have any other updates. yet from OP. OP even says like, it. doesn't matter if my son painted like. this. I wouldn't put it up. Actually, I would. have a conversation about why he is. drawing women like this. Why are you painting women like Jessica. Rabbit? Huh. And I get it's a style, whatever. Like. you don't have to be. >> [gasps]. >> hyperrealist, you know, but That's so. >> OP does keep saying that Jessica Rabbit. is the perfect example of how she paints.

people. So she makes them curvy. >> Yeah. I think I think OP could. reach out and apologize. for. the fact that she had to like see it the. garage and just be like but again. there really isn't a place we just. downsized. It's not the style of what we have in. the house. It doesn't blend with what we. have. It doesn't mean that I don't think. you're very talented. >> that I appreciate your talents as an. artist. >> Yeah. I just you know, it's not my.

style. It's not that I hate your art. It's just not my style but I think you. have talent. Yeah. >> Amazing job. I love seeing it in your. home. >> Yeah. It's just not our vibe. >> you at a gallery opening. >> Yes. Um OP does add that she's 29. She. doesn't need baby gloves. I wasn't even. mean. I literally just said, quote, I am. not a fan of the artwork. Yeah. But I. think it's the umbrella statement of it. all that like kind of is like. But are your feelings valid? If you want.

to say that are you entitled and. yeah, but again like I am in the boat of. more flies with honey than vinegar. Yeah, and like I think people just. overall like kind of realize how you're. talking to people. Mhm. People need to. do that a little bit more. Yeah. I don't. like your art style. is a little harsh. Very clearly, the. moment that mattered most is OP getting. into this new house of theirs and. picking art that mattered to them. But.

if they would have prepared a little bit. more about how to have a conversation. with their daughter-in-law about the art. or maybe just hid it better. All of this. could have potentially been avoided. I. don't know. What do you guys think? Obviously, big life moments can come. with a lot of change but when you take. the time to prepare, like talking with a. State Farm agent, you can set yourself. up for whatever may come next. Like a. good neighbor, State Farm is there. Thanks, State Farm.

This is coming from Am I the [ __ ] It. is titled, Am I the [ __ ] for not. supporting my husband quitting his. business to become a doctor? Oh god, that's a long journey. As. someone with a brother [laughter] who is. a doctor, You're a great guest for this. >> Thank you, yes. I have a relative who's. My husband, 28 male, and I, 27 female, have two young children, two and one. Recently, his father was diagnosed with. cancer, and it's been incredibly hard on.

him. Not long after, his mom had to have. stents placed in her heart. In the past. 3 weeks alone, he's taken them to the ER. at least five times. It's been a lot, and I truly do understand how. overwhelming and emotional that is. I've. tried to be as supportive as I can, stepping up with the kids and continuing. to work full-time to keep things stable. at home. About 2 weeks ago, everything kind of. blew up. He told me he wants to dissolve his real. estate business and go back to school to.

become a doctor. His reasoning is that. he wouldn't be able to run the business. while also committing to school. full-time. The part that's really hard for me is. that I've supported him building this. business for the past 4 years. I worked. full-time, raised our newborns and. toddler, and held everything together at. home while he was able to focus fully on. growing the business. It wasn't easy, but now it's finally at. a point where it's successful and can.

comfortably support our family. And now. he wants to walk away from all of that? I completely understand where this is. coming from emotionally. Watching your. parents go through serious health issues. can change your perspective on. everything, but at the same time, this. decision doesn't just affect him. It. affects me and our kids, too. Going back. to school to become a doctor is a long, demanding, and expensive path, and his. plan is to fully step away from the.

business while I continue working. full-time, taking care of the house, and. raising our children. When I pushed back, things escalated. I told him I felt like he was being. selfish and not thinking about how this. would impact our family. Since then, he's basically shut down. He hasn't been speaking to me for the. past 2 weeks. He stopped by this weekend. to spend some time with the kids, but. he's been staying at his parents' house. in the meantime. I feel really torn. I want to support. him, especially given everything he's.

going through with his family, but I. also feel overwhelmed, hurt, and. honestly, a little abandoned. It feels. like I'm being asked to carry everything. again, just when things were finally. becoming stable. Am I the [ __ ] for not supporting my. husband's goals? Yeah, this is a tough one because. you always want to support people's. dreams and. you know, believe in them, and not be.

the one who's saying, "You can't do. that." But it is a it is a selfish thing. to want to do. Like it'll take 10 years. before you can even start making money. with this. And not only that, but you'll. be pouring crazy amounts of money into. it. And you can't make any money in that. time because it is so demanding. And. like it also just feels like there. hasn't been that much time and thought. put into this decision. This does feel a. little bit quick. Like they've been.

going through this, they're still in the. midst of these health issues, and it's. it's very soon to say, "Okay, we're. going to drop everything now, completely. upend our family's stability. I've made. this decision, and it's final." That's. it just feels very fast. Like no. conversation? >> Yeah. No like "What do you think of. this? I'm very like obviously in an. emotionally intense situation with my. parents. I'm kind of feeling like things. are really out of control and I'm I'm.

seeing what they're going through in the. healthcare system and it's like it's. really upsetting. I want to make a. difference. Like Yeah. >> It's just I want to quit to become a. doctor. Yeah. And it's like And it all. sounds very lovely, but that's just not. reality. No, and. uh there's some comments from OP that. we're going to get into that like also. makes it even more confusing. >> Mhm. To where I'm like I get where he's. coming from. But like he. Like even up until this point, he hasn't. even been a good partner. Yeah. You have.

a two-year-old and a one-year-old. and your wife has been supporting you. for the past four years basically for a. different dream. For a different dream. Basically letting you off the hook in. terms of childcare, home care. Yeah. Like she's been the breadwinner. Yeah. Where are you contributing to this. partnership? And now, after take, take, take, take, take, you're saying, "Oh, I'm going to just. like totally upend our lives Yeah. >> business that you've sacrificed so much. for, throw it away, and chase this. potentially other dream that's seemingly.

kind of developed overnight." Yeah. Like. where's the give? Where's the balance? Which might not even work out. He could. even like go through, I don't know, undergrad again if he has to and then. not get accepted into medical school. He. could then go into medical school and. not get accepted into like a fellowship. But you you There are so many. >> have like not matching. >> They could Yeah, they could sink. >> It's a risk. >> so much money and time into this, not to. mention like also a business that's. doing well. And it's sad because I even hate saying.

this cuz I feel like it could be taken. the wrong way, but there is a point in a. partnership, especially with children, where. you can't just keep chasing new dreams. You do eventually have to And sometimes, by the way, like. work isn't a dream. Sometimes work is. just a thing that you have to do, and I. think it's beautiful to be like, "Yeah, work is should be the thing that you. love the most." But, that doesn't always. happen. And that's okay. That's totally.

fine. >> happen that way. I think like a majority. of people. Like, I think there's like maybe a. split. I'd be curious. Maybe that would. be a good poll for this episode of like, "Do you love your job, or do you just. Yeah. >> like work to live, and you're just kind. of like, "I I like going to work and. punching out. Like, I'm good." And I. feel like that's why a lot of people. sometimes feel like they've failed. because they think that they should love. their job and like be doing something. that's just always been their dream come.

true and is so incredible when that's. just you know, it's okay if work is just. a thing that you have to do for money. I. completely agree. It shouldn't suck your. soul away if you can help it, but Yeah. >> know. I think this is tough, and also he. doesn't even know if being a doctor. would be his dream. He hasn't spent. enough time even thinking about it to. know that. He certainly no time living. in the actual reality of it. So, it just. it's just. too much. Yeah, it sounds like, you.

know, it's been maybe a couple of. months. If they had like a million dollars. stored away and. you know, trust fund to live off of, go. go chase your dreams. >> Yeah, that's fine. I know. It's really. intense, but I I do agree with your. point, too. Like, when you made the. choice to have kids, like you now also. have another responsibility. >> Yeah. And your life, when you have kids, like. isn't just your own anymore. >> Mhm. As weird as that is. Like, you're. not just gambling your own life.

>> Yeah. There's a lot on the line here, and. I understand where he's coming from, but. it's. >> it sounds very noble. I understand that. his reasons aren't you know, coming from. this horrible selfish place, but. >> It's a tough one. I'm like, he's only. 27, and like people go back to school at. all ages, but this is a big one. And so, let's get into the comments. >> Yeah. So, the top comment, he can take. MCATs and any prerequisite science. classes before applying for medical. school. It isn't even easy to be.

accepted to medical school. Tell him he. can continue to work in real estate. while studying for and taking MCATs and. see where that gets him. Yeah. And. someone else is like, this is a very. practical answer. >> Mhm. That may also give him time to. identify a solution for the business. Could he hire a manager to take care of. it day-to-day? Could he sell the. business? I wonder if he even gets into. the reality of studying for the MCAT if. that alone will be enough to be like, oh, maybe never mind. I also wonder if. there's a different compromise of.

working towards something in the. healthcare system that isn't a 10-year. becoming a doctor type. >> Yeah. I I think that would probably be like a. really great compromise for your family. >> Like if this continues to be a dream for. him. >> Start a nonprofit. I I mean, yeah, there's so many options. I When I was a medical scribe, I had this one doctor, Dr. Dyer, and he. talked to me, and he was just like,

"What do you want to do with this?" Cuz. like, as you are a medical scribe, you're doing it for hours to apply for. med school, PA school, some sort of. other program. You're not just a scribe. And so, I was like, "You know, I'm not. really sure. I don't know, maybe med. school, maybe PA school." And he's like, "PA school.". He's like, "The golden age of being an. MD is a little behind us. PA school, less debt, less time, you're in a great. position, it's a great work-life. balance." And the doctor was telling me. this. Yeah.

>> this could have changed since back in. God, 20. 14, when I was doing this, 12 years ago, you know? Yeah. >> But I know, you know, even financial aid programs have changed. in this country a lot recently and now. college debt impacts your credit score. which can. impact you from buying a home or getting. a loan. It's just like Yeah, it's so. messed up. Like I literally was posting. on my story the other day of like how do. you consolidate student loans? Which.

also isn't necessarily a good idea. because if you then go private with. them, then if there is any program that. comes up down the road, You're not. eligible. >> Yeah. So it's just like we're all in. this rock and a hard place because of. this and so with education becoming even. more expensive, he's looking at 500K. Yeah, they're looking at now taking out. loans when they finally got to a place. where they were getting money in and. supporting their family. Yeah. It's just. >> It's a lot. So I agree. I think like an. associate's program, like I think.

nursing is an amazing amazing career and. you can also grow so much within it. You. can become uh like an injector and work. at a plastic surgery clinic. You can go. further and become a nurse practitioner. Mhm. Like the best provider that I. encountered during my emergency ER. hospitalization stay was literally the. nurse practitioner. Yeah, they're impacting people on the. day-to-day. >> Oh, if that's really his. >> know, inspiration.

>> Yeah. >> Absolutely. >> like an easier route and also I don't. know, I feel like you're just more. hands-on in that route, too. >> Yeah. So people start commenting is his. undergraduate degree in one of the. health sciences? Has he ever shown an. inclination towards med school in the. past? Does he have a pattern of jumping. impulsively from one thing to another? How does he plan to pay for med school? OP responds, he doesn't have a degree. He said he was enrolled in college for a. few semesters, but it sounds like it was.

mostly gen eds and he didn't get very. far. He's also mentioned he failed quite. a few classes, so I don't think he ended. up with many credits, either. Oh, this I don't know if this stream is. even possible. He would be going back to undergraduate. And again, I know I already said this, but even if he graduates and does well. in the MCAT, it's still very, very hard. just to get into medical school. So, it it just it feels.

it feels like something a child would be. saying, not someone with children. Yeah. Sorry, that might be mean. >> Hot take for the day. I like it. Sorry. >> for the day. I like it. I mean, someone. I worked with as a medical scribe, he. actually did go to school in Ireland or. like Scotland or somewhere abroad. because he couldn't get in here in the. States. Yeah. And the acceptance rate is. under half. 44.5. Yeah. Which by the way, like.

I'm not trying to say that you can't. start any new career at 27 or 28. Like. that is not at all the point I'm trying. to make. I'm saying is like this being. a decision for an entire family that's. relying on you, it's unrealistic. It's just unfair. Yeah. Like. Yeah, you could probably do it. >> was single, Yes. >> Whatever floats your boat, buddy. You. want to like live with your parents, get. a cat, >> go to school, girlfriend, boyfriend,

dating, sure. If like Justin woke up. tomorrow and was like, I want to start. over and become a doctor, I'd be like, what? Also, then you're going to have to move. multiple times for where he does. undergrad and then where he does medical. school and then residency and then. fellowship. Like every time you're going. to have to move every time. Yeah, someone else says, "If he went. through with it, I'd ask for a legal. divorce. Not because you don't love him, but because of the student loans and. debt that he {slash} you would have tied.

to as his spouse. If he dropped out or. changed his mind about being a doctor in. a couple years, he'd be screwed. financially. And OP says, this is honestly another. huge fear of mine. I worked really hard. to dig us out of debt between our credit. cards, auto loan, and I just finally. paid off my own student loans. I worry. that if he goes through with this and it. doesn't work out, everything ends up. falling back on me to fix again. Yeah, I mean. if he wants to in his free time start.

studying for the MCAT and maybe take an. online class or two and see if he's. still feeling that way like a year from. now. >> Mhm. I don't know, but this just feels so. I mean, that could be a good compromise. of like, hey, I'm not saying no, but you. have 4 years of an undergrad ahead of. you. Mhm. So why don't you start with. entry-level classes that you can do at. night. >> Yeah. >> Like you keep working cuz that's what's.

fair for our family. Yeah. >> And if this is a dream, then you're. going to do what it takes to get that. dream which is sacrifice and night. classes and maybe working a little. harder. Mhm. >> But the burden of everything in our life. cannot fall on just me. Yeah. Otherwise, guess what? >> would happen. >> Yeah, and otherwise like I'm better off. being single and co-parenting. Yeah. Um a lot of people are like, get your. real estate license and take over the. business. Mhm. OP says I've actually put. a lot of thought into this. I work. full-time as a loan officer. So I do.

have background in real estate and. understanding that side of things. What. he does is more focused on property. management and renovations. So there. would definitely be a learning curve, but I do have a little bit of a grasp on. it since I've helped out when I've had. time. At the same time, I genuinely love. the career I've built and would hate to. give that up. But I'd also hate to see a. business we both sacrificed so much for. just fall apart. So I'm really. conflicted. Yeah, she's supported him before in this. like swinging big starting this really. daunting thing, starting a business from.

scratch. Like it sounds like they both. sacrificed a lot just to make this. happen. And like. to finally see that pay off and then be. like actually never mind. It's it's too. much. >> feel like a like the whiplash of it. Where we're like woah, like. And maybe with that comes a resentment. because then you're like, what did I. just put myself. through all this for? >> Yeah, and you're asking me to do it. again. In a bigger worse way. >> Yeah. Someone comments OP, "What are your.

goals? What has he done to support them? What sacrifices has he made, if any? It. seems a bit exploitative on his part, using you to achieve his life's personal. endeavors and fulfillment. If you want. to stay with him, ask him for a solid. plan as to who will pay for his school, how he intends to support his family, and how he will be an equal contributor. to the partnership." Yeah. And OP goes, "Wow, this is definitely eye-opening. I've been so focused on making things.

work that I don't think I've ever really. stepped back and looked at the bigger. picture like this." Yeah, because again, that's such a good thing to add to this. conversation. I don't know if he's had any. consideration of like. is it fair to put all of this on her? He's just thinking. is she supporting my dreams? And it's. like, what about her dreams? Like what. about what what your family's dreams. are? What about what they need? Like. what Is there Can you picture a way of.

this looking where we can both be. getting what we want out of this or is. it just your way. or nothing? It's feeling very me me me. me me. Yeah. Not us us us. Including. kids. Yeah. And I've seen how much you. value your dreams before. Like I don't. Sorry, I don't need to put that much. into it. You You threw threw first one. away real quick. >> [sighs]. >> I'm just confused. And I get like, I. don't know, some people wake up and quit. their jobs and start sailing around the.

world. And I'm actually like a huge. proponent of that. Like I think that. that's a beautiful, amazing thing. I. think I want to start a new career when. I'm 40 probably. Like I There's tons of. understandable things in this world. Something about this specifically to me. though That's exactly it. is very like, no, this this isn't right. I will. literally give me another story and I. will probably have a very different. opinion. >> yeah. I'm like I'm literally speaking to. just this story right now. >> Yeah. So like don't ever apply what I'm. saying to anything else. Like No, no,

no, I'm like literally responding to. just this story this moment how I feel. >> in the way that each person's situation. comes across, I think. For sure. >> out there listening right now and. they're like, oh [ __ ] I was thinking. about starting a new career, but I'm. hearing the way they're talking right. now and I apparently that's a crazy. thing to do. Like no, that is not what. we're saying. >> No, that's not what we're saying. [laughter]. No. I know, take everything with a grain. of salt and it's like I think these. conversations are and why even OP is. here on Reddit is just like. trying to gleam other opinions and just.

see things from a different side. But. again, it's like it's so context. specific. Mhm. Um someone does ask, "Are. his parents aware of his plans? If so, what are their thoughts?". And OP says, "Yes, they're aware and. they support it, which has really put me. in an even tougher spot." Ugh. Well, I. feel like that's almost. there's like an emotional manipulation. aspect to this, where of course his. parents support it because they're all. like going through this health crisis. together and they're probably like all.

experiencing the hardships together and. crying together and it's like, "Guys, I'm going to do this very noble thing. and make a difference in the world.". It's It's like easier for his parents to. be on board with that than like the the. who's going to take the brunt of it and. all of the housework and all of the. financial burden. Someone else comments, "Not the [ __ ]. Is anyone else reminded of Betty. Broderick on this one? She supported her. husband through first a medical degree.

and then a law degree while raising six. kids or something and at the end of it. all he left her for his secretary and. screwed her out of the money she was. entitled to?". Oh my god. Yeah, that doesn't sound that. crazy. That's horrible. >> [sighs and gasps]. >> OP responds, "New fear unlocked. I think. like a lot of people too do start. saying, 'What about other careers?'" And. OP does say, "I actually suggested. something similar. I told him maybe. starting with something like a CNA. license or eventually pursuing nursing.

could be more realistic and a way to get. into healthcare and also give him. hands-on experience caring for his. parents. Unfortunately, he was pretty. set on becoming a doctor.". It's just it's so much work. It's going. to take a lot more than like a month of. deciding you want to be a doctor to. actually. feel motivated enough to get through all. of that. It's It's very. crazy to me that this is like. I don't know. Therapy. I think he needs.

to start some therapy ASAP. Like. something I've like really struggled. with is like dealing with. just mortality and like my parents. getting older and like being so far away. from home and like Yeah. Kind of sounds. like a midlife crisis almost. And that's. where I think he's at and I I do I. >> Even though it's not midlife, but. >> No, but it's like when you're faced with. like your parents like are a big life. shock or whatever and it's just like I. understand where he's coming from in. this inspiration and motivation behind. it.

But again, at the end of the day. we have to kind of be on planet Earth. So, I really think some therapy could. help him. Even honestly, if he just like. wanted to get his undergrad degree and. spend his free time doing that even. though that would be time-consuming and. cost money, I would support that. Like I. I. I think it's just. there needs to be more proof that this. is something he's dedicated to and not. just going to throw away the second it.

gets a little bit difficult. >> Mhm. And there needs to be a plan of. action where the stuff at home is still. evenly distributed and the finances can. be evenly distributed. But like yeah, if. he wants to get a degree because he's. feeling some type of way about that, like if that's a great first step and if. he they can find the money and time for. that, sure. That is one big thing to consider in. this, time. It's time away from your. family and your children. That. Your. parents and you're worried about your. parents and the motivation is because of.

them, you will lose out on so much time. with them, with your kids. >> I mean just there's a lot to think about. here. So I really do think especially if. OP is like wants to stand by him and. kind of try to work through this right. now, therapy. Yeah. Therapy. But okay, I'm ready for. your story. Ooh, I have a story. >> I'm ready for your story. >> story. It's on my phone. I'm not being. rude, guys. It's a story. >> [laughter]. >> I feel like we've been going like.

hi-low, hi-low, [snorts]. hi-low. Cuz I'm like I feel like this. one. I'm nervous, but I'm I'm ready. I'm just. excited. It's actually it's a tough one, but it's just very unique. And the. subject matter I feel like has come up. multiple times throughout my life at. pivotal stages. So. I know. No, no, no. I'm really excited. to get into this. Okay, this is an. r/raisedbynarcissists, >> Mhm. which I've never seen before. >> crazy sub. >> Um and it's 1 day old. So I'm continuing your theme.

>> Let's go fresh. The title is My mom used. lice to control my social life. Dude, I'm already feeling itchy. From the ages of around 8 to 15, I had. lice off and on, but I think likely on. the entire time. It was just never. completely taken care of. My mom would. never buy the shampoo, saying it was too. expensive and never worked. She insisted. on combing through my hair with a comb. and individually picking out each louse.

with her hands. She wanted to keep my. hair very long, so she refused to cut it. and use that as an excuse for manually. picking out the lice. Eventually, she graduated to using. shower caps full of conditioner that I. had to wear for at least 2-hour. intervals. Obviously, I couldn't leave. the living area during my lice. quarantines. The conditioner worked to. suffocate them sometimes, but I don't. think it got all of them as after a. month or so, they'd be back. I was even instructed to sit at the. table hunched over a white piece of.

paper and to scratch my scalp to let the. bugs fall down as well as nits and to. circle them on the paper. Question mark, question mark, question mark. My mom. also sprayed Pam cooking spray all over. my scalp after finding out that Pam. kills lice. My scalp burned so bad, like. all the bites from the lice were on. fire. One time, we were going out to a. drive-in theater and my mom made me go. out with the shower cap. She put a. beanie on my head, but I still cried and. cried in shame. She showed me my head.

with a big beanie covering the shower. cap. I assumed to show me it wasn't that. bad, but what girl doesn't want to look. cute when they go out? I felt so ugly. and I looked silly. You couldn't tell if. I was bald or not under the cap and it. was huge. It made me cry even more, which both my parents laughed at. [ __ ]. them. I had lice for years and at times, I remember them crawling in my eyebrows, all over my head. They were as big as. fingernails and so painful. I had marks. around my hairline that showed how bad.

it had been getting. My mom didn't fix. it at its worst when I was 15 because. she was ashamed of her boyfriend finding. out I had lice. My dad ended up coming. to the house even though they separated. to finally fix my hair. He hadn't done. it before because he was scared of her. and she always said it was her job. I. think she kept not finishing removing. them because that way I couldn't stay at. other people's houses. It was so bad. Child abuse. Child abuse. Child abuse. Child abuse. Child abuse. Mhm. I'm like. so sad for OP. From the ages of I think.

8 to 15? >> I was like, what's that? 7 years? 7. years. 7 years to deal with an itchy. scalp with animals, little gremlin lice. biting your head. Yeah, there's like the. physical pain and then also I think. always being insecure about it. Always. kind of going to school probably being. known as the lice kid. >> Going to school, not being allowed to. have sleepovers. Like obviously they. weren't ever allowed to go sleep at.

other people's houses and I think now. they're trying to work through that and. be like was it really about the shampoo. or did my mom like having an excuse that. I couldn't go places? >> control and. again, like feel like Munchausen's. Yeah. I think that's why that was on my. mind earlier. >> and it keeps coming up in like episodes. for me and I'm like, this feels like it. where she's purposefully keeping her. sick because I'm sorry. Just use the shampoo. >> Afford lice shampoo?

Lice shampoo. Um $15. $17. $26. >> The shower caps, all of the conditioner. you're using. You're spending way more. money. >> 7 years worth? No, it's abuse. Yeah. It's literally what a freak. >> I know. And also that's like a very. it's a very uh unique method of control. Like no one I feel like people would. struggle to even take that seriously. right off the bat. Like, "Oh, I think my.

mom is purposely letting my lice stay.". >> No, it's kind of one of those like. things where it's almost that plausible. deniability where it's like, "Oh, oops, I just didn't get them all. Oops, I. couldn't afford the shampoo.". >> Yeah. And the dad, he's not off the. hook, either. Also abuse. You're not stepping in. "Oh, I'm scared of her.". >> No, just that one sentence to be like, "Well, my dad didn't do anything cuz she. said it was her job." Like, okay. You guys Both of you Both of you step on. a Lego.

It's crazy. It's It's very sad. And I. also like really related to the little. thing about being a teenage girl and. going to the movies and having to be in. the shower cap and like just feeling. embarrassed to be out. I mean, 15, you're like. insecure about everything. Sophomore in. high school, like yeah. Boys are. starting to look at you. You might be. interested in getting a boyfriend. You. might have your first kiss. And you're being forced to go out with a.

a mask. Also, the mom conditioner said, "Not only is it too expensive, but it. doesn't work." as the excuse. Like, what you're doing is work Why not. try it? Let's try it. Let's just try it. then. It doesn't work. Let's just try it. once. Like, how do you know? Does OP say how old they are now? I. actually was just wondering that. I. wonder if they. come back to it in the comments. They do. have like responses on this thread. God, I'm so angry. The top comment is.

kind of shocking. It's someone saying, "Dude, I thought I was the only one.". What? I had lice between the ages of 11. to 16. You got into No! >> My mom expected me to take care of it. myself, but I didn't know how and was. never taught. But I didn't know it was. abnormal or child neglect to be treated. like this. So, I internalized everything. as if it was my fault and that I was. disgusting. The constant paranoia of. others finding out drove me crazy. because the only person I had as a. friend eventually when I was 12 did find.

out and I couldn't see her again until. it was taken care of. It didn't go away. until eventually I was hospitalized in. the mental hospital after threatening to. kill my family after breaking down and. only then did the hospital staff finally. take care of it. I wish I told them I. had it for years and that my mom refused. to take care of it. Like I had told. >> Yeah. was also stuck living in my own filth. yet my mom knew to clean up my room upon. CPS coming over and I was too scared to. say anything. Having lice that long it's.

a unique experience. Even now if I feel. my head is itchy I get paranoid. I still. remember the sensation of crawling in my. hair. I remember scratching it raw. I. remember how the lice looked when. pulling them out. Look. And then OP replied, I still get. paranoid too and the evil thing is we. were expected to magically rid ourselves. of literal parasites without access to. medicine or help on the back of our. head. What? There's a reason other kids. would have it for a couple days and be. rid of it. Yeah. Other kids in my class.

even went to the doctor and had it taken. care of there. I just had to dot dot dot. scratch my head over a paper. >> Encircle them? Yeah. For what? Yeah. >> That's like such psychological. torture. Scratch your head. and then when they fall out circle them. It's crazy because there's actually a. lot of comments of people kind of. relating to this. >> Damn. I if you are out there, if you are out. there listening.

I'm like I know we have an audience. under 18. which hi, you're kind of crazy for. listening, but like this is not okay. If. you live in an unsafe home it's not. okay. You. are a kid. Like you deserve to be taken. care of and have basic access to medical. stuff and. there's insurance programs in this. country from when I was working at least. again. this country and everything's changing. rapidly. Yeah. But there used to be. child health insurance protection and it.

was like chip and anyone under 18 even. if your parents couldn't afford it you. would have health care. Yeah and it's. like. you could go in and get access to that. Like it's just like but it's like. these schools these schools are also. supposed to be mandated reporters and. it's like how do we even There was a. comment about that too. >> educate on such a niche little issue. Like do we need to go I know we have so. many teachers out there and I know so. many teachers are going to be like I've. dealt with this. Please chime in in the.

comments. I'm like if anyone needs it I. will buy you lice shampoo. Like please. anyone out there listening like do not. go through this. >> Well I can't imagine having this trauma. for 7 years and then being like this is. something that everyone else that I know. was able to solve in two days. I've yeah. so this just came up on Patreon. We. talked about lice on Patreon. Really? >> Yeah that's why I was like when you I'm. just so I know some of the I know some. of those comments were like and I can't. imagine actually being traumatized by. that and then and then reading that.

because I was like. uh Yeah no I I got lice in kindergarten. I think it was like a really common. thing in northern Minnesota to get lice. during the winter with kids mixing up. hats and sharing hats sharing brushes. whatever. So I got lice in like. kindergarten and. my mom I mean everything all of our. stuffed animals went into a plastic bag. for months everything got washed we had. lice shampoo. She picked it out with the. comb. She made me sleep in mayo.

overnight like a shower mask with mayo. >> taking any chances. >> everything and like I spent hours with. my head down on the kitchen table. >> picking out the lice and. so like I have that experience of like. truly like that is the level of care a. parent should give their child. And to. hear this. >> Yeah. >> I'm like I'm physically disturbed. It. also another reason it feels purposeful. and like a method of control is that for. any other parent you'd think they.

wouldn't even want the headache of. dealing with this for 7 years. >> Lice spreads. >> Yeah, and like not having a a home where. you can have people over and not be. worried about lice and like be picking. them out of your child's head every. night. Like this isn't a desirable. situation. So like it's beyond just. neglect and not caring because there was. an involvement. You're watching your kid basically every. day for 7 years scratch their head. >> Yeah. >> Cry. Yeah. >> Be in emotional physical turmoil.

>> Yeah. Sick. It's awful. It's awful. And that's. I think that that's. >> in jail. an interesting thing about this. sub like raised by narcissists It's a. crazy sub. >> Yeah. Um OP has. 43 contributions um a month old account. but they've made some other posts as. well. They had one in like. r/vent like a month ago like 37 days ago. um some other stuff. They replied to a.

lot of comments. I don't know how old. they are now but they have one comment. 20 days ago. about when they first went to college. So they are Out of the house. >> the house a little bit older. I would. assume like 20s or something. They have. a comment like when I was in college I. would vent or share my experience. growing up. So they've got yeah. >> Yeah. >> a little bit separation from there which. I can't imagine like. the mental process you'd have to go. through to come to terms with this.

situation and like how you were living. in that situation. But that's why I guess subs like that. are so great to have. >> important. So important for people to be. able to like share and. bond over this trauma they've gone. through. I'm Like the fact people were. in the comments being like, "I thought I. was alone. I went through this." It's. like, I'm I'm shocked. I'm genuinely. like shocked. But, like to have that camaraderie. cuz it sounds like both of them are also.

dealing with like PTSD from this. >> Yeah, absolutely. They're both like. living with paranoia about any itchiness. they experience. But, it's also like, "Well, now you. could get the shampoo at least. if it happened again." If anyone is out. there. create an Amazon wish list for your lice. shampoo and I will. literally get it for you. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm sure for other. situations it is just neglect, but. this one does sound like a method of. control and like a purposeful choice.

I'm [ __ ] shell-shocked. >> I know. That's scary. We were either going to do for this. episode like a like rare situation or. like worst person situation. I was like, "This works for both of them.". >> [laughter]. >> literally both. No, it could be both. Like another theme I'm working on is. worst of the worst and these are just. stories that are These people are such. despicable. creatures. >> Well, parent stuff hits so hard, too. Like that's just. >> Cuz it's so out of your control as a. kid. >> Yeah. You're They're so vulnerable.

>> You're vulnerable. You're at their. mercy. Oh, [sighs]. man. >> [gasps]. >> Okay, well, let's get into a goofy one. [ __ ]. This is titled, "My 20 female boyfriend, 30 male, pranked me by saving up his. turds in the litter box.". >> God. No. This morning my boyfriend did this.

[ __ ] up prank on me and I don't even. want to come home. I moved in with him a. few months ago because his roommate of a. few years moved out. I've been wanting. to move out of my parents' house since I. graduated and work a job where I can. afford to pay the roommate's rent, so. yeah. My boyfriend is a total. sweetheart, but sends me kind of mean. prank TikToks sometimes. Stuff I'm not. really a fan of, but whatever. I warned. him if he ever did anything really. mean-spirited to me as a joke, I would. just leave because why would you treat.

someone you love like that? He has two. cats and usually cleans the litter box. every day. But, he's been sick lately, so I've done it the last couple of days. I hate cleaning the litter box, and I'm. not a fan of his cats, but I love him, so of course I'm going to do that for. him even if it makes me gag or whatever. He reminded me to clean it today as I. was putting my scrubs on, and I told him. I would after work as I have been. But, he said one of his cats had a really.

gnarly one, and he could smell it. through his vapor rub on his chest when. he passed the kitchen, and to pretty. please bring him a bowl of cereal, lol. So, yeah, title. I went downstairs and I. smell nothing, but I check inside the. litter box. It's in a cubby with a hole. cut out, and god, all caps, there's multiple huge turds in there. No.

It's funny saying that now, but it was. [ __ ] nasty. >> Is it funny saying that now? One poking. right out barely covered by the sand, and I can see more like kind of buried. in there a little, and I start gagging. like crazy and get up. I really, really. already knew this did not come from a. cat, but wanted to be wrong, and no. He. asked me where his cereal was and. started laughing. I was still gagging and kind of tearing.

up and I asked him, "What. the [ __ ] was that?" Because I still. wanted to believe it just came from our. neighbor's dog or something. But he told. me laughing through tears that he has. been collecting his own turds for like a. week now just to prank me. He really is sick though and he was. trying to find an excuse for me to clean. the litter box because he read about. someone doing this prank before and. thought I'd find it funny. But I thought.

he knew me better. Guess not. Anyways, I'm at work now on break and I. told him I'm moving back in with my. parents. I don't really have many problems with. him besides the fact that I feel like. I'm doing most of the housework. sometimes, but this was just too much. and I don't want to be bluffing by. saying I would leave him if he did. something mean-spirited. So, that's what. happened today. By the way, no, I did. not clean it. He can clean up his own. [ __ ] He said because I already work in. an elderly care home, I should be used.

to it already. Now, he's apologizing. No, thank God she left that house. Absolutely not. Also, like how could she. ever be attracted to him again? I don't. I don't understand this. This is so. disgusting. What is the humor? There's. there's no joke here. There's no. originality. There's no like, "Ooh, that. that was so clever what you did.". I he needs to marry like he needs to.

find another guy maybe. I think like I. think that's the only person who would. maybe find this funny. Find another guy. and that does prank videos and they. could be roommates and like have a. lovely time together maybe. I don't. think any woman is going to like this. I understand everyone poops. I find some poop stories funny. Poop. knife, Reddit Hall of Fame, okay, crazy. But, if I. saw that much of Justin's [ __ ].

and also you knew he collected it and. put it there. And where was he keeping. it? How was he collecting this [ __ ]. Where was he storing this [ __ ] It. crossed my mind, but I was scared to. post the question. If I saw that, I. would be so repulsed by him. >> Yes. It would be hard to come back from. that. Yes, I don't want to touch him. Like and I get, hey, sometimes the. toilet doesn't flush perfectly. Okay, I'm going to whoop, flush. Whatever. >> Yeah, very different. Different thing. >> But the fact you went through this.

effort and these lengths, nobody. No, sir. No. >> you. No, thank you. Devil be gone. That's just I you just wouldn't be able. to look at them the same. And also, it's. just. weird to do to somebody. And I don't. like the prank thing in general, but. this has to be one of the grossest. >> This is crazy. >> Yeah. This is crazy. And the age gap, too. 20.

30. He's 30? >> Mhm. Oh my god. >> I will say, I'm so so so impressed with. the fact that she just stuck to her. guns. >> Yeah, thank god. Especially as a. 20-year-old. >> Oh my god. >> excuses I made for people younger dating. them? Oh my god, I'm so impressed. >> living with him long before he pulled. this [ __ ] I can't imagine. >> A few months. And then he started no. self-control. >> Get out, get out quick. Get out quick. So top comment, not only was he cruel to.

you, he was cruel to his pets. Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think about. that. >> So I just went on Miles's podcast. >> Yes. >> It was so good. It literally such a fun podcast. And we. had a caller on it that said that their. roommates were peeing in the cat's. litter box. Oh, I saw I saw that this. was a thing. And now their apartment. smells because the cats aren't going in. the litter box. >> Yeah. And a bunch of people on the.

perfect person like YouTube like in the. comments were like, "Cats will not use. litter boxes if they're dirty or if like. it doesn't even smell like them." And I. was like, "Oh my god." And this. >> here it is. >> Yeah. Like. And now he has to go in there. Now he. has to deal with that because she's. gone. So, good luck with that. >> [sighs]. >> OP responded, "Not even a fan of cats, but that is very sad. I think he placed. them there yesterday or or this morning. after I scooped it yesterday. I didn't.

even think of that." Oh my god. Someone. else. >> placed them there. "If you don't leave, then you are setting yourself up for a. lifetime of cruel pranks.". I've talked about this with people. before how. women can get into this like mommy role. in their relationship and how even just. like that can sometimes negatively. affect the sexual chemistry and like the. romantic chemistry. This kind of takes that to like the 10th. degree. It's like.

"This is a child and it's a disgusting. baby child that I have to literally. clean the [ __ ] up of. No, thank you. That that is not appealing to anybody.". No. So, we do get an update. >> Ooh. "I realized I'm still logged into this. account instead of my main, so I thought. I'd give an update before logging out. forever. I have officially moved back. out back to my parents' house and. they're very, very glad I'm back. >> Yeah. I haven't told them why we broke.

up, but they think he cheated and that's. fine by me because the truth. >> embarrassing. is honestly more. embarrassing. >> [laughter]. >> He kept texting me all day while I was. at work and I ignored him the whole time. until I went home. When he was texting. me, that's when I learned he kept them. in the mini fridge in his room because. he said, "Quote, that's why I told you. so angrily not to take my Red Bull from. there." He usually doesn't care.

When I got home, I saw that it was. stored in a Tupperware container because. it was in the sink along with an. assortment of other dishes he left for. me with like assorted brown streaks. inside it. >> stop it. Oh my god. I didn't clean it and I think that's. when he realized I was actually so. pissed. I slept in my own room instead of his. and when I woke up, all the dishes were. done and he bought me flowers. I packed.

up for a couple of days and he knew I. was leaving. He was really sad and. helped me pack one day and broke down. crying. He said that he made his old. roommate leave too with his antics. And. I didn't push further though. Now I. really do have to wonder. I understand why some would find it. funny because this is something I'd. laugh at in a sitcom or something but. not in real life. It just felt. disrespectful and disgusting and while. at work, I just kept thinking about how. honestly, how often he made me feel that. way.

We had been trying for a baby for a. month. >> What? In parentheses, dumb at my age, I know. >> Oh my god. And I was thinking about him. talking to our future son or daughter. like he'd talk to me sometimes and just. felt this full body cringe {slash}. chill. To everyone that thought this was a. prank. from me to Reddit, what would I gain from that? I have more. karma on my main just for sharing pics. of my Tamagotchi collection. I know it doesn't matter overall and.

that someone calls every story fake. I. do that, too. It's good to suspend your. belief when reading things on Reddit, etc. But, it still kind of hurt my. feelings. Like, I felt like I had to. defend myself. When I got home, by the way, it was. already cleaned up by him. Otherwise, I. would have gotten a picture. I wish I. did when I first saw it, and I regret. not doing it so much, but I wasn't. thinking in that moment. I'm glad she. didn't, personally. You would have shown. me that [ __ ] and I would have been. unhappy. Anyways, yeah, we broke up.

Wow, I'm so glad they broke up. Also, girl, you were in danger. He was trying. to They were trying for a baby? He's. trying to trap her. Also, no. Baby trap. That's a baby trap if I've ever seen. one. >> Learning more about him, it's like, no. wonder he is dating 20-year-olds. And he. can't even get like a 20-year-old to put. up his beha- with his behavior. Mhm. Insane. [clears throat]. The fact he took that shitty Tupperware. and left it in the sink for her to see, and. Colleen?

Yeah, hell isn't hot enough. >> If he actually would have like learned. and been like, "Oh, no, she's mad.". Throw it away. Oh, I Yes, that is one that you just. throw away. You don't need to save that. Tupperware. You You really don't. >> I know a lot of people were commenting. and like, he probably threw it away. after. And one of the comments in the. best of Redditor post on this, I love. how optimistic that last commenter is. about this guy throwing out the. Tupperware. I guarantee you that being.

left to his own devices, this man put. the Tupperware back in the cupboard. And. then, what did he do with the sponge. that he used to. Sorry. Nope. Sorry. >> Nope. Also, back to cats, we've had a. story where someone was using their dish. brush to clean out the cat's litter box, to scrub the cat's litter box. And it. was And then, it was back in the. And then, back to the sink? And then, back to the litter, and then back to the. sink? >> [sighs]. >> Okay.

>> [laughter]. >> Guys. People are so. silly. This has to stop. I know not a. single one of you out there listening. right now would ever do something like. that because you're all good lovely. people. >> [laughter]. >> but we as a collective have to do. something about this. How do we create a. list of like don't clean cat [ __ ] with. your dish sponges? Like how do we create. right an all encompassing list of like. PSA here's some public life advice. Love. it. Carissa follow on Instagram.

Maybe we make a Google form. Like maybe. we can put that together and like. everyone can submit their life advice. and we just keep it rolling. >> Things we shouldn't have to tell you but. maybe we do. Dude. That's yes. Yes. Terrible. It's really awful Morgan. Well, we're. not ending on that note. Thank you. >> Certainly not. This is coming from trueoffmychest. It is titled I made my brother's. girlfriend cry at dinner and he thanked. me for it.

My younger brother Ethan who's 23 got a. girlfriend Maya who's 22 in January. He met her at their university in the. biology department. She's majoring in. marine biology and he's doing general. biology. They'd been talking for a while. before she asked him out and they began. dating. I've met Maya once or twice briefly. since I sometimes get asked by Ethan to. get him lunch since my work's close. She's a very shy sweet girl. Last week.

on Saturday we had an end of the week. dinner where Ethan invited Maya for the. first time. Our family has a tradition where we. invite our partners to dinner only if. we're serious and whenever we do the. whole family has to bring a reasonably. decent welcome gift for the new person. We did it with my husband and my oldest. brother's wife. Apparently it started on. my father's side. Anyways, after we had dinner and sat on. the couch, it was time for gifts.

Everyone gave their gifts and I could. tell that she was getting a bit. emotional and I summed it up to her just. not being used to it. My turn came and I gave her a royalish. blue scarf I had made with a hand. embroidered dolphin on the end of it. What the hell? Maya stared at it for a solid five. minutes and then started crying. Like completely. sobbing. I began apologizing and asking if I did. something wrong while my mom got her.

water and my brother comforted her. After a bit, she calmed down and said. she was okay and that I did nothing. wrong, but she left a bit early from. dinner with Ethan. I was truly like so confused on what I. did that yesterday I called Ethan and. asked what was wrong. He told me that her father died three. years ago from cancer and that he, who. was also a marine biologist, the reason she wanted to be. a marine biologist, used to call her.

Dolly {slash} dolphin because it was her. favorite animal growing up and still is. And that his favorite color was also. coincidentally blue. Oh my god. Maya has been depressed ever since his. death and she was so emotional that she. ended up crying really bad that night. because she loved the scarf. Maya wanted Ethan to tell me that she. didn't dislike me or anything of the. sort and Ethan also thanked me because. the morning after she was grinning all.

day with the scarf, which hadn't. happened in the year that he's known. her. That's so like. beautiful. >> It's so. It's so cute. Like. >> [sighs and gasps]. >> the thoughtfulness and just like the. coincidence of it all, which like. probably the universe. It's just like. signs. Like everything I don't know. felt like such a sign. Yeah. >> I'm still here. Yeah. It's just so special. I don't know if. I've I've talked about it on here yet. I.

talked about it over on Clues, but after. the episode I did with Kaylin, someone. reached out um because she talked about. losing her aunt Susan. And. the person reached out and was like, "You know, as I was listening, I just. kept getting glimpses of these yellow. flowers." And they sent me this message. on Patreon. And I I sent her a. screenshot of it, and she goes, like, "Shut up. I got the chills.

Like yellow flowers were Susan's. favorite flowers." Oh my god. >> And so our listener who's over on. Patreon, who you know I'm talking about, I like sent back, and I was like, "Oh my. god." Like it was just like it was such. That's so. crazy. >> I'm like, "Some people are just so. gifted." So. this is really special. Everything is. connected. There's like little threads. that tie us all together in this world. It's a really beautiful thing. >> It really is. So be a rare breed in a good way,

not a freakish way, not a bad way. >> Way to tie that up, Morgan. This is why. you're a pro. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know what I'm doing. I feel like. I crash out every week. New New episode. drops, comments drop, and I'm like, "I'm. a failure.". But I'm just like not feeling like. myself. So this this felt good. This was. a nice distraction, and just I feel like. we had a good a good mix, a good balance. of stories, and Well, that's actually a. great tradition, too. Oh my gosh. Even. just that without the um beautiful.

coincidence that it turned into, like. >> I love a present. that was such a kind. thing, and I think even without that, like if you recently lost a parent to. then like experience such a warm, welcoming family when that's something. you've been missing, like that's already. so overwhelming and incredible. It's so. incredible. >> So that's really nice. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, that's good note end on. I like it. Thanks for ending us on that. note and not the poop story.

>> God. >> remind everyone that that happened, but. yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. I didn't do that. You all. did. >> [laughter]. >> No, it was a good balance. Good balance. and. I like the pallet cleanser. I've found a. few really good pallet cleansers lately. Yeah. So excited to keep bringing them. up, but if anyone has any new theme. ideas you want to see, drop them in the. comments. Um, there's going to be some amazing. bonus content on Patreon this month with. this theme, the worst of the worst. theme. And I'm really trying to find the.

right person to come sit with me for the. work episode. I have so many amazing. work stories now, but I want to. >> You've mentioned this. someone who's. like maybe a creator, but also still. works and or like is an HR creator. Yeah. So if you have any ideas about. creators you'd like to see on upcoming. episodes, let me know. >> there are creators who that's kind of. their niche a little bit. Yeah. >> Like job tips and like work stories and. stuff like that.

>> I know. I need I need. >> There's a perfect suggestions. Yeah, it. would be nice if like you guys let me. know and then there was like kind of a. common majority. I think that'd be. great. I'm also already thinking about a. pride episode. And I've got a few. stories that I'm like starting to tee. up. So if you see any stories that would. be good for pride or any again. people that you'd like to see come sit. with me and respond to the stories, let. me know. But other than that, thank you for being.

here another week and until next time. Bye. Bye. >> [music]. >> Fearless. Fearless.