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Mic check down the line. Mic check. >> Check. >> Hello. Hi. Okay, I think we're ready. Finally. >> Yay. >> Here we go. Bailey, come on in. >> Are we singing happy birthday. to you? >> Oh, it's a happy birthday. Okay. [laughter]. >> Thank you. >> to you. Woo! >> That's why you asked about the cookie.

Are we singing? >> You know, you know what's funny about. this? >> Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday [singing]. to you. Happy birthday, dear Justin. [singing]. >> Happy birthday to you. >> And many more. >> Many more. Thank you guys. >> That's a Jerry. >> You want to know what's kind of funny? I. saw this in there and. >> I figured it was for Bailey. >> You saw it? [laughter].

>> Yeah, cuz Bailey's birthday's coming up, so I was like, "Oh, it's for sure for. her.". >> She'll get her kick at the bowl for. sure. >> So, this is wonderful. I'm just. >> This episode comes out on Justin's. birthday. >> Whoa. >> So, we had to make sure he felt the love. and show him some love in the comments. [laughter]. >> I had zero thought that it was for me. Not even an ounce. >> Okay. Well, [laughter] that's good. Last. year for Justin's birthday, we were. literally building our wedding venue and. so he didn't get to celebrate. Like we. didn't do we didn't do anything for his. birthday. So, got to really show him the.

love this year. >> But here we go. This episode has been on my radar for. years. I've wanted to go back and track. down all the stories we've done and see. if any of them have updates and it was. not possible until Bailey came on board. because it's a lot of work. So, we have. a Google sheet of every story we've ever. read and we've been going through and.

working with our THT task force over on. Patreon to find these updates and I'm. blown away. I don't know all of them, but I've heard a couple and they're. insane. So, this is a huge labor of love. from Bailey and I putting this together, tracking down stories, editing clips. because a lot of you guys might not. remember the original story even. Some. of them are 3 years ago, four years ago. So, what we did, we found the original.

stories, edited them out of the episode, have them in a new file. So, we're going. to play the original story and then I'll. read the update. >> So, it's going to be kind of like we've. been calling it movie night like Love. Island does. >> It's going to be good. I think some of. these updates are insane. And I'll tell. you right now, if you don't like it, don't tell me. >> Don't tell me cuz it was a lot of work. It was [laughter] so much work, you. guys. And this is just something really, really special. Like, it has been on my. radar for years. And I really I hear you.

guys. I know you love the updates. So, this is really for you guys and I hope. you enjoy it because again, labor of. love and I hope you like it because we. want it to be a recurring theme. We. actually have direct Caterpillar helping. us now on the sheets a little bit. >> DC baby's on the host. >> Yeah. So, this is going to be a. recurring thing if you like it. So, if. you like it, please let me know in the. comments. Again, if you don't, don't. tell me. >> Don't tell me. But, let's get into this,

shall we? Let's do it. >> Yes. Okay, let's dive in. [music]. >> Okay, we're all locked in. We all got. our cake. >> Oh, yeah. >> Cookie cake, whatever this is up first. for us here. And chime in if you. remember it. Okay, it's titled, "Am I. the for taking away my brother's.

plus one?" and inviting his girlfriend. myself. >> I remember. I remember. I remember. [laughter]. Okay, let's uh play the original. Am I. the for taking away my brother's. plus one and inviting his girlfriend. myself? I know I kind of am an. but I need to know how bad it was. My. [laughter and snorts] brother is 29 and. has been with Leah for about 2 years. We. all like her. She is super nice. I'm.

getting married next April and sent an. invite to my brother's apartment. We. decided to send invites to households. and not individuals. For example, our. aunt received an invite for her family. and not each individual. Last Thursday, we met at my parents place. It was just. the core family because of some tax. reasons. Lol. While there, I asked my. brother about Leah's dietary. restrictions. I know that she is a. vegetarian for health reasons and that. she cannot have certain raw vegetables. He said that she wasn't going to come.

and that he was taking his girl best. friend Amanda instead. Now, their relationship is weird as. Amanda has always been stringing. my brother along in my opinion. He. always denies having feelings for her, but let's be real here. Mhm. Amanda. would date other guys, blow off my. brother, then when things would decline. with her partners, she would be attached. to him again. Her last boyfriend broke. up with her right around the time my.

brother, his then ex-girlfriend Amanda, and her ex were supposed to travel to. Spain. What did my idiot brother do? Go. with Amanda alone because Amanda was. uncomfortable with his ex-girlfriend. >> Wait, wait. >> Obviously, he acted blindsided when his. then girlfriend broke up with him. I don't even say anything anymore. because it's all so weird. So, when he. said that, I asked if Leah already had.

other plans, but my brother said that. Amanda had asked if she could come. because it would be an opportunity to. finally see the old gang. We were in the. same friend group in high school. I told. him that I would have invited Amanda if. I wanted her there. Amanda is mean and cold. She always. makes disparaging comments about other. girls. At every event around 1 hour in, she will make some sort of scene that. either has her running away crying or. sitting mad at a table telling everyone. to quote, "Leave her alone." And then.

making a cryptic comment about something. hurting her. I told my brother I was. revoking his plus one and Amanda was not. coming to our wedding. He accused me of. being misogynistic and bigoted because I. don't understand opposite sex. friendships. H, which is My. husband has a female childhood friend. who is his best woman. I love her, too. And she has been amazing, all caps. And.

she respects boundaries. She. always includes me and made a huge. effort when I started dating my fianceé. to integrate me into the friend group. Anyways, I said my decision was final. He could take it or leave it, but I. would be inviting Leah myself because I. like her. He screamed at me and told me. to keep out of his business. I said to. get rid of his weird feelings. for Amanda. He is mad at me. My dad said. it is none of our deal. My mom is. furious with my brother. So, am I the.

No. I love it. Oh my [laughter]. god. I just remember being like, "Of. course he's in love with Amanda. What's. going to happen between them? Is she. gonna ever take like accept his feelings. or is she going to lead him on this. whole time?". >> I know. I'm like obsessed with the get. rid of your weird feelings. [laughter] of you just to the point. >> Get them out of here. >> Well, it's a it's a sort of having your. cake and eat it too where you always. have [laughter] Well, you always have. someone in reserve.

>> Yeah. >> Well, it's having your cookie and. >> Yeah. having your cookie too. >> I People have done that. Like I know. friends that have done that where it's. like you just kind of keep them in. waiting and just if things don't work. out well, you have the nice comfortable. consistent person to go back to. >> Yeah. the the emotional fluffer of it. all. Well, we didn't have an update back. then. Yeah, >> we have one today. >> Oh my god, this is electric. >> This episode is going to be like my. favorite. I'm so excited. >> So, update. I listen to two outakes.

every day on my commute. So, it was a. huge surprise when you responded to my. post. >> Thanks for your insights. >> That's awesome. Regarding the. invitation, I now realize I shouldn't. have phrased it as inviting a single. person. I thought inviting households. would be cute and less pressure for. guests. Lesson learned, lol. Here's an. update I would like to share with you. After the confrontation, I didn't hear. from Leah or my brother for about 2. days. During that time, Amanda reached. out to me upset about my Reddit post.

She called me an and insisted. that quote, "Leah is not the only. special woman in my brother's life.". Making it so much worse. that [laughter]. >> she argued neither Leah nor I have the. right to be selfish with my brother's. time, asserting she existed before Leah. and any of his girlfriends and would. outlast them all. >> Oh my Oh my god. Oh my god. >> She ended with a presumptuous statement. that she would surely see me at my.

wedding. I was fuming. >> Oh my god. I chose not to engage with. her other remarks, but instead sent her. a clear message. Quote, "Hello, Amanda. You are not invited to my wedding. If. you want to see the old gang, please. organize a coffee date when they're all. in town. Should you appear at the. wedding, you will be escorted out. peacefully by staff or with police. involvement. >> Please refrain from contacting me or my. husband." End quote.

>> Oh my gosh. Amanda responded with more emails, mostly vague threats and name calling, and turned to Instagram to indirectly. target me. She tagged me in posts, making my username small so people. wouldn't notice me tagged, but I would. see it in my notifications. She also used an ask me anything sticker. on her Instagram story where I'm pretty. sure she asked herself leading. questions. >> I'm sure she did too. >> Me in eighth grade. [laughter].

Highlights included questions like, "What's the perfect outfit for a. wedding?" with a photo of herself in a. dress captioned, "This, but sadly I'll. never get to use it and what's your pet. peeve?" Followed by a rant about nosy. people who think they have the right to. control others. She flooded her story. with sad quotes about no longer having a. girl. She tagged me in every single one. Of course, I screenshotted them all, lol. Some friends reached out when.

Amanda started spreading a different. story, claiming I originally invited her. but later disinvited her because Leah. hates her and pressured my brother to do. the same. The cool part, not one person. believed her. Many of our old high. school friends have cut ties with. Amanda, and the few guys who still talk. to her are more linked to my brother. They reached out to let me know Amanda. was spreading rumors. The girls in the. group blocked her after she vented to. them, which led Amanda to start. bombarding their phones. My brother.

panicked, thinking that I had started a. campaign against her. Speaking of my. brother, he called and texted me. multiple times, furious that I excluded. Amanda and even blamed me for any harm. she might come to. He went as far as. calling our mother, saying Amanda was. depressed and threatening never to. forgive me if something happened to her. My mom advised him to call for a welfare. check if he was genuinely concerned. because he, as an individual with no.

training, wouldn't be equipped to handle. such situations. The biggest development. is that my brother got kicked out of his. shared apartment. Leah called me to say. their relationship might not continue. and that she might not feel comfortable. coming to the wedding. I understood her. decision and opened an ear. We met for. coffee and she recounted their ugly. fight. Without going into all the. details, Leah didn't hold back. She made. my brother read every single text out. loud between him and Amanda and sent a. copy to one of her male friends who.

replied, quote, "Leah, what the. This is not okay." She used this as. evidence that their interactions were at. best inappropriate and realistically an. emotional affair. When my brother begged. her to stay, she asked him why, knowing. he would always choose Amanda. He swore. that he wouldn't, but his immediate. response to a hysterical call from. Amanda about me bullying her proved. otherwise. Leo left while he comforted.

Amanda in another room. Later, she. texted him that he needed to move out. while she was away. It's her apartment, and she didn't want to see him until. certain conditions were met. Cutting. Amanda out completely and seeking. therapy to address his unhealthy. patterns. This fight spanned two intense. days. Leah found solace in your podcast. and the comments here. She described it. as surreal but helpful. She sends her. greetings and wants people in similar.

situations to know a few things. Don't. fear being alone because being with. someone who's not good for you will make. you feel lonier than being single. And. never enter a relationship with a I can. fix him mentality as it usually ends in. heartbreak. Prioritize yourself and. while trying to work things out is. noble, don't depend on it as the. solution. That's pretty much it. It. sounds convoluted like a soap opera, but. my day-to-day life has surprisingly been. calm. I think my brother really needs to. mature and either commit to Amanda or.

realize that he's being strung along and. to Amanda. Please grow up and leave me. alone. >> Commit to Amanda? No. Don't even put. that on the table. >> Well, Amanda is crazy, but OP's brother. is down for her crazy. Like, he likes. whatever she's got going on. [laughter]. >> Well, when she said I will outlast any. girlfriend, it's true. >> Not because of her, but because of him. He likes this. He's almost playing the. same game.

>> Mhm. >> They both are doing it for each other. But they will never probably end up. together actually cuz it would never. work. >> It's probably more exciting. Yeah. Talking to her because he has a. girlfriend because there's something. else that is comfortable and safe. Then. it's like those conversations have a. little bit more of like a pizzazz to. them. >> Right. >> Wait, did she TMU this or was this. public? >> This was public on the Two Hot Takes. subreddit. So, this originally was. posted on Am I the and then she.

happened to hear us read it. >> Oh my god. >> And then gave us the update on two. That's crazy. >> But it doesn't really end here. >> Yeah. >> Unfortunately, something tragic kind of happened after. And OP posted this on her account. So, it turns out OP came back and posted. just directly on Reddit. >> I'm scared. Just say it. It's titled, "My brother is in the. hospital.". >> We got a call yesterday night. He was in. an accident abroad. My father and I are.

on the way there getting plane tickets. Was almost impossible. So, we've been. driving since 5:00 a.m. He was on a. holiday with Amanda to clear their. minds. Amanda didn't even call us. I. don't know if she's still with my. brother or if she is also hurt. My. brother's phone was shattered, so he. can't update us. The nurse, bless her. soul, has been updating us. He can't. even talk to us. I think I'm just. writing this because I don't know what. else to do. My dad doesn't want to talk. I don't know if he's mad or worried or. both. I've never seen this expression on. his face. My brother is an idiot who.

hurt a bunch of people because he is. selfish, but I still don't want him to. have anything wrong with him. He's my. brother. >> Um, and then added like another like. little edit at the bottom. Thank god. he's alive. Amanda's not there. >> Amanda's not there. >> She left him. >> That's all we get on that. And then OP. comes back, which is a little bit later, and says, "What is going on?" on another. post that they put directly on their. account. "This has been an absolutely. terrible week. My brother is alive. We're stressed out of our minds because.

of the insurance situation. He and. Amanda went to another country that's. not a part of the European Union, and of. course, he didn't book any travel. insurance. So, we have to pay upfront. and hope his insurance will refund us. But we all know how that goes. If they. owe you money, you might see it in 8 to. 18 business months. My mom and Leah are. trying to figure that out, too. Amanda. came to the hospital yesterday. She. hadn't left. She just had to go to the. police because of her car. The reason my. brother is in the hospital is not. because of the crash, but because of.

sepsis. They decided to go on vacation. to blow off steam. Around 4 days in, my. brother started feeling warm and sick. Amanda said she offered to drive him to. the ER, but he declined. I'm not sure if. she's telling the truth, but this is the. first time I've seen her being genuine. They went out drinking and when they. came home, he took something for pain. Amanda couldn't tell me what exactly, but she said it worried her because. you're not supposed to mix medication. with alcohol. They started arguing. Then. my brother passed out. I don't know why. she didn't call an ambulance. She.

couldn't explain it to me either. But. when my brother came too, she loaded him. into the car. Amanda said she panicked. And when they were arriving at the. hospital, she hit a barrier. That's when. my brother's phone, which he was. holding, flew out the window. Amanda. decided to run into the clinic to get. someone and stay with the car until. police came. After that, they didn't let. her in because she's not family. Instead. of calling us immediately, she went back. to their Airbnb and told me that she. just needed a moment to process. everything. She had to go to the police,

pay for damage, and then went to see my. brother. But here's where it gets. frustrating. Amanda decided that she. needed to clear her head and left my. brother in the hospital alone for a day. She tapped in to a nearby hotel to rest. She didn't tell any of us where she was. until she showed up at the hospital. yesterday, looking somewhat relaxed and. acting as if everything was under. control. When we confronted her about. leaving my brother alone, she said, "I. just needed some time to get myself. together. It's been overwhelming.".

Meanwhile, my brother was lying in a. hospital bed in a foreign country with. no way to contact us because his phone. was shattered in the crash. We're now. trying to navigate the logistics of. getting him home and ensuring he gets. medical care he needs. Amanda, on the. other hand, seems more concerned about. how this whole situation is affecting. her peace of mind. She even posted a. photo from her hotel room with a caption. like quote taking a much needed break. >> Oh my god, I hate her so much. >> It has been a nightmare. and Amanda's.

behavior, while not super malicious, has. added to the stress. We're doing. everything we can to support my brother. My brother, on the other hand, is. struggling physically, emotionally. He's. worried about the mounting medical. bills, his recovery, and the strain the. situation has put on our family. On top. of that, he's afraid that Amanda is. losing interest in him. [laughter]. >> Oh my gosh. >> Which only adds to his anxiety. That's. why we're playing nice with Amanda to. avoid adding any more stress for my. brother. We're focusing on getting him. the best care possible and bringing him.

home safely. >> I think Amanda avoiding this one serious. situation is the perfect analogy about. how she's fun for him in some aspects. but in a serious relationship way is not. up for it. >> But she couldn't get in. No, >> but she couldn't get in. >> I mean detrimental to him. >> What are you going to do? Sit on the. front step? >> Call his family? What are you going to. do? [laughter]. >> He is her toy. Like that's really what. it is. sees her toy when it's. convenient. >> My toy is broken. Ew. >> Yeah. >> And it stressed me out. I'm going to go.

focus on me now. Like. >> I know her Instagram stories are being. sent around her hometown friends. Like. those people. She's putting on a show. for real. >> Oh god. >> But now for the brother. Now he's like, "You saved me. >> You brought me into the hospital. You. saved my life.". >> Right. She had like a couple redeeming. things there in that early paragraph at. the end. And then of course she. immediately went back to it. I was like, "Oh, okay. She she brought him there. She, you know, did a couple things. >> Is this a Is this a character arc? Are. we.

>> I almost thought. >> Yeah, I was getting excited, too. [laughter]. >> And now they're married. >> You know, >> we don't have anything beyond that. I. mean, OP posted that last update 2 years. ago. You could be out there listening to. us tell your story yet again. And. >> are they married? [laughter]. >> If that's the case, please update us. I. that was like I feel like we could spend. like the entire two hours like breaking. this story down. I don't know how we're. going to get through all these updates. cuz I'm like. >> there's so many things that I just want.

to like comment on from this story. But. um. >> this next one you're going to have a lot. to say. The original left us enraged. I remember this next one. >> Okay, >> buckle up guys. So, this next one is. titled, "Am I the for wanting my. husband to hold my hand during birth?". No, >> let's do it. >> Is it me? >> Is that me? [laughter]. >> Just saying. It is you. So, we're moving.

on to this one that's from Am I the. It is titled, "Am I the. for wanting my husband to hold my hand. during birth? I, 35 female, am 7 months. pregnant. I am married to a family. medicine doctor, 35 male, and we've been. together for 10 years. Throwaway Reddit, because my sister-in-law follows me on. Reddit and reports everything to my. husband. I'm reaching out to all of you to ask. for your advice on a fight my husband. and I are having on our birth plan. My.

husband really wants to deliver the. baby, which I can understand. It's not. uncommon for doctors to deliver their. own kid. There is still an OB/GYN there. monitoring everything and the doctor. father steps in at the last minute as. mom is crowning to just basically catch. the baby. My husband has I guess always. dreamed of being the one to pull the. baby out while I pictured it very. differently. I thought he would be up by. my head holding my hand and helping me.

through it. He says he will do that, but. the easiest part is the very end where I. won't need him anyways. He said if I. really want someone there, his mom can. step in. I've been on my own since I was. a kid living in my car, so I don't have. anyone I'd want in there with me except. him. I don't really even want his mom in. there. She's great, but he is my person. I know it would be cool for him to. deliver our baby, but I really feel like.

I need him there. I personally didn't. want our doctors to know he was a doctor. because as soon as any of my doctors or. even our vet finds out he's a doctor, they talk exclusively to him. I. [clears throat] don't even want him to. go to the prenatal appointments anymore. because no one talks to me. They all. talk to him and I can't ask my questions. to anyone but my husband at home, but. he's already told everyone he'll be. delivering his first baby. I guess I.

don't want this because I wanted him to. be there as a husband and a father and. not a doctor. I see him as a doctor 95%. of the time. And I wanted to experience. this with my husband and not my husband. the doctor. I wanted him to be there for. me as this is my first birth and I'm. terrified. He just keeps telling me I'll. be fine. He pulled in friends and family. who also don't understand my point of. view. They said this is his first child,

too, and to just let him have this since. I had the honor of being pregnant. I. just really wanted him to hold my hand. all the way through it and to be able to. share this experience as parents and. people instead of a medical. professional. I was hoping we could see. the baby at the same time and just be. equals in this. Am I being selfish for. wanting this to be my way? There's one comment before the update. I. can't see the comments on Am I the.

anymore? And I'm pouring through. comments to muster the courage to stand. up to him. Everyone keeps saying to show. him the comments, but I lost all of. those comments. I'm still considering. that approach, so I thought it wouldn't. hurt to repost it if I decide to take. that approach. I apologize for any. confusion. I think OP posted on. relationship advice that got removed, so. then they posted on Am I the. Update. I'm going to confront him. tonight when he gets home. He's already. going to be upset because we both have. restrictions on how much time we spend.

on social media sites and I have. significantly surpassed that today and. yesterday, which he'll know as soon as. he reviews the router logs. Uh, >> what. >> I'm hopeful I can catch him before that. makes him too upset. I did reach out to. some of our mutual friends just to see. what he has told them for why this is so. important to him only to learn he never. discussed this with them. I think he. made up what he has been saying. They.

said they were really shocked to learn. we've been having this disagreement and. were actually quite supportive of an. expectant mother controlling her birth. plan. I'm quite nervous about his. reaction to this as well and I'd like to. get ahead of this. Wish me luck and. cross your fingers for me. >> Why? Why are we wishing luck, >> dude? That was posted six hours ago. There's no update since. >> It's an honor to give birth. You already. get that honor. And checking the Wi-Fi.

routers. >> Yeah. And saying it so casually. >> Mhm. >> Scary. That's so scary. >> That's an like controlling. abusive relationship. >> Yeah. and fo we had alarm bells ringing. when we heard it the first time and. we were distraught. So then we get this. what she's calling her second and final. update. Hello all. I first want to say. thank you. Thank you to every single one. of you who took the time to reply, send.

messages, check up on me, and share your. stories. I've read so much more than. I'll ever be able to respond to. Thank. you those who took the time to share. resources and volunteer your own time. You are angels in the flesh. Thank you. I'm so incredibly touched by this. overwhelming outpour of love and. support. Also, thank you to even the. people who told me I was selfish or. crazy, or any other derogative you chose. to use. I'm not sure what helped me. more. The people posing such great. questions about if I felt safe,

comfortable, loved, or the people. telling me I was a terrible person. Something about attempting to reread my. story as an outsider and seeing the. comments where Redditors told me that I. was in fact the problem broke something. in me and I finally saw through the. haze. >> Mhm. >> But hey, maybe try to be nicer to. strangers on the internet and consider. your words more carefully. We're all. people just trying to get through life. So many of you are kind, caring, and. loving individuals. Thank you for caring. about some random on the internet. I.

don't even have words. I can't say a. whole lot about these last few days. So. much has happened that I will be. processing for years to come. All I can. say is that I am safe and I am free. Read into that as you will. My next. steps are leaving this chapter of my. life behind. I'm moving out of this city. and I'm going to try starting again. somewhere new, somewhere beautiful where. every time I look outside it's hard to. believe it's real life. I've always felt. drawn to the mountains with all their. beauty and might. I don't plan to ever.

log into this account or even Reddit. ever again. I did the same thing at 16. and I'm hopeful that these last few. decades have set me up for more success. than I had the first time chasing a new. start. If you read my story and you. relate to it in any way or you feel too. smothered, voiceless, and alone every. single day locked in the house with. someone who is supposed to love you. I. just want you to know what I now know. that it isn't normal. That isn't what. life is supposed to be. There are people.

you can rely on, and strangers can be. your best friend. The cost may be steep, but the cost to stay is so much more. Farm this post for all the comments and. support available. I pass it on to you. and beg you to use what resources you. can find. The sheer volume of personal. messages I received from people in the. same boat, people sharing support, people checking in to make sure if I was. okay, there's such a community here. V. And they will be here to help you before.

you even realize you need it. Okay, that's V. There's one more line. >> You got it. >> I'm not sure what's next, and that's. terrifying, but also refreshing. I. haven't had that in so many years. Thank. you. >> Jeez, I'm so happy for her. I do want an update, though. I'm like, how's [laughter] the mountain? Like, how's the view, babe? I mean there is no. better way to do that. There is no.

refresh like a completely new place, a. new routine, a new commute to work, a new job, a new. grocery store. I mean, every little. piece of it makes a difference. >> versus like if we split up right now, everything in LA, it's like, well, was. there with Morgan on a date? Oh, we did. that once. [laughter] Oh, we were just. there. Like it's just. >> you would never get out of it. If you're. really heartbroken, stuck in something,

which I know can still happen after. abusive relationships, after any type of. relationship, the best thing you can do to recover is. to get away. And I know that's not. always possible, but in my experience, it is the best. >> Yeah, it sounds like with her, no good, no news is good news. But also, I love. this as an update because it's kind of. like the best and the worst of comments. I think like earlier in the update, she. mentioned how the negative comments. affected her. Yeah. But then also how.

profoundly the supportive comments. affected her. And I think it's important. to remember that for us and for. commenters of like these are real people. and not only are they like reading your. comments, but they're taking them in. They're like affected by them. And I. don't know, I just I think that it was a. really beautiful update both in always. >> Absolutely. And you do get so many. resources on those posts. I actually. want to give our moderators on Two Hot. Takes a shout out because there was a.

post the other day that was in this same. vein. And I saw it and literally the top. comment was already from a mod of mine. sharing resources to the listener. And I. immediately went and messaged. But I was. like, I just want to check in, make sure. you're okay, cuz like I don't. necessarily need my comment to be public. facing, but if you're coming to my sub, I want you to know like, hey, I see you. We got you. And she messaged me back and. she's like, >> yes, I'm good. The advice, the support I. got on the sub was amazing. And that.

really can make a huge difference. >> for someone and be that. >> rosecolored glasses come off moment to. where they're like, I deserve more. I. don't deserve this. I'm going to make a. change. I'm getting out. >> Yeah. And correct me if I'm wrong, but. the way that I actually read the. negative comments was that she was. actually it made her so confident in the. fact that she wasn't crazy. >> Like hearing these people be like, "Oh, you're selfish.".

>> Or whatever they said. All of a sudden, she was like, "Wait, >> no, I'm not." And now and like I know. that for a fact and I'm so confident in. that because now that I'm hearing so and. like that actually happened to me not. too long ago where I was like is this. dramatic of me and somebody was like. yeah a little. And I was like I'm so. glad you gave me your honest. [clears throat] opinion because now I. can take that and actually decide. what I think instead of just having you. be like no whatever. And then me still. be kind of like is she just trying to be. nice to me? And like I genuinely like.

looked at it and I was like no it's not. dramatic. And the reason why I don't. think it's dramatic is because there's. like XYZ like all these other like. aspects that like maybe she didn't. understand whatever. Anyway, my my point. is is that like I I think that like. there's power in sometimes having. somebody say something so opposite of. what you're feeling because then it puts. you in this like. >> it doesn't feel right. You're like why. doesn't that feel right? >> Yeah. Exactly. And it like puts you in. this like place of confidence in like.

what your emotions actually are. >> Kind of like when somebody asks you like. or like what's your opinion? Do you want. to do this or that? And someone says you. should do this and then you're like I'm. going to do the opposite because I. didn't like how that felt. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> You immediately know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So happy happy update. Yeah. That's awesome. >> She's looking at the mountains. >> Does it make you guys think of the end. of Stranger Things? >> I didn't see it. >> So sorry. >> Okay. That was that was my vision. [laughter]. That will hit for a lot of people. >> Yeah, a lot of people be like, "Yes,

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me to bring a plus one?" This is coming. from our That's unfair episode featuring. Angela Gueritana. Let's get into it. This is coming from AITA, 28 days old. Am I the for not letting my. friends use my backyard for their. wedding because they do not want me to. bring a plus one? >> Mhm. >> Oh, damn. >> Here's the situation. Last summer, I. bought my grandparents house. This house. was the hangout spot for my friends and.

I throughout our childhood. This. includes my friend Dave. The house has a. sizable amount of land, which includes a. lake and a gazebo. I was supposed to buy. the house with my now ex-girlfriend. Lesie, but going through the process of. getting approved to buy, I found out. that she had massive amounts of credit. card debt and personal debt that she hid. from me throughout our 4 years together. I decided to break up as a result. That.

was about 6 months ago. I met Lesie. because Dave's long-term girlfriend. Kim. is Leslie's cousin. Dave and Kim are. engaged and set to get married in April. When I was buying the house, they asked. if they could have the ceremony at the. gazebo, which I agreed to do. In. December, I started dating again. Lesie. has not taken this well at all. She. thinks we are going to get back together. and has tried multiple times to make. that happen. I have told her in no.

uncertain terms that isn't happening. Dave and Kim have asked me to not bring. a plus one to the wedding for Lesie's. sake. I have told them that this request. is ridiculous. This wedding is happening. at my house using my land and I'm not. allowed to bring a date because of a. crazy ex. If that is the case, then they. need to find a new venue for the. wedding. They are pissed about this. given the short time frame of when the.

wedding is supposed to happen. So, we. are at an impass. Am I the. [gasps and sighs]. We do have some edits from OP. >> Thank God. >> We have some edits. >> Um, I've seen a few things brought up a. number of times in the comments, so I. quickly address them here. >> Okay. One, I am fully aware of the. liability issues which is why I. purchased and they reimbursed me for a. special event insurance policy which. will provide 100% coverage for any. damages, claims, injuries, etc. to any.

of the property or persons up to $2. million. What it is one of the first. things we did after I agreed to have the. event in my home. Number two, the. wedding will have a maximum, if everyone. comes, of 75 guests, five catering. staff, and five security staff. The. security is because this is an open area. that anyone walking past could access. >> The house has hosted events twice the. size, and logistically, it'll all be. fine. On the property are two cottages,

one with one bathroom and the other with. two bathrooms. The only portion of my. house that will not be locked during the. wedding is the finished basement. The. basement has two bathrooms. Three, every. person who is single, i.e. not in an. established relationship, received an. invitation with a plus one, including me. and Lesie. This talk came after I sent. in my return card and indicated I was. bringing a plus one. Now, they are. saying they do not want me to have a. plus one because Leslie blew up about it.

and they are afraid of a blowup at the. wedding. Number four, Leslie indicated. she intends to bring someone on her. card. I do not know if she will actually. bring someone. I went to look at the. post to see if there's any other. comments from please. >> We have an official update. >> Thank God. >> So, I met with Dave this morning. We. talked for almost 2 hours about. everything. I laid it out that I thought. he was at best a shitty friend. I went. through our long history of various.

things over the years that has me. questioning our friendship. >> And they grew up at this house. Holy. smokes. That was the bulk of our conversation. We then turned to the breakup with Lesie. and the show of the last 6 months. Throughout the last 6 months, despite. Leslie's craziness, I have bent over. backwards to try and accommodate her. feelings. She has shown up to my house. in the middle of the night. I did not go. for a restraining order. When I go out, I do not go to places that I know her.

and her family like to go. She has. implied to her family and mutual friends. at various times that I cheated and/or. that I took advantage of her. financially, neither of which is true at. all. I've held my tongue to not. embarrass her about these things in. front of her friends and family. Dave. knows all of that and yet is demanding. once again that I put Leslie's feelings. before my own. I said, quote, "You and. everyone need to stop coddling her like. she is a child.".

>> Dave conceds that Leslie has been crazy. and ridiculous since the breakup, but he. says, quote, "She feels she did not get. closure after the relationship. She. wants to have an evening where she can. talk to you to get that closure. Not not. at the wedding. Not a closure talk at. the wedding that you're hosting at your. house.". >> [gasps]. >> He also told me that Leslie has been. very vigilant about paying off her debt. and paid off almost $10,000 of the. credit card debt. She wants to talk to. me about her progress. Okay, not our.

problem. >> To see if that might cause me to change. my mind. It will not. [laughter]. I asked him, quote, "So, do you expect. me to go to the wedding and talk to her? Because I have her blocked everywhere. and date or not, I do not plan to say a. single mumbling word to her." He said, quote, "I fully expect she would lose it. if y'all do not talk at the wedding." I. told him, "If that is the case, then for. the good of my property, I can't have. Lesie come. If she is so unstable that I.

need to be coerced into a conversation. with her, she is too unsafe to be a. guest in any capacity in my home." So, I. have told him based on what he has told. me, Leslie cannot come to my house or on. my land. I'm willing to still have the. wedding at my place, but I cannot trust. Leslie won't do something given all that. you're telling me. Dave lost it at this. point. Now, he said, quote, "Fuck you. and your I don't need it." So, I.

said, "Then the wedding is off." He. left. So, that is the state of things. [gasps]. [laughter]. Sorry, it's paused on her face. Um, Angela has the best reactions. She's so. expressive. >> Yeah. >> How much is the debt? This is where I. feel like I may be too nosy cuz I want. to know, first of all, how much money. does OP have? And second of all, how. much debt does Leslie have? That was the. sole reason for the breakup. >> A lot of debt.

>> I think it's also debt. It's also got to. be the the lying. Like I don't know if. you're right. If you're with somebody. for four years, like it's kind of from. my take maybe I'm misunderstanding. I. feel like it's more of the fact that. it's like you hid a part of you and it's. that is. >> that is a really big part of growing. together and like having a family. together or being a family together and. it's just it's like a mistrust thing. >> What do you think? Do you think No, >> you think it's a debt thing? >> Go back to the that's unfair episode and.

see my initial take. [laughter]. >> Damn it. I just want to go through them. all. >> So the update the update comes almost. three months later. People have asked for an update. Now. that the original date of the wedding. has passed, I do think it's appropriate. In the weeks following the discussion. with Dave from my last update, a number. of our mutual friends reached out to me. and asked if everything was okay. I. ignored those messages and went about. living my life. Dave reached out to my. grandparents. My grandparents said that.

I need to talk to Dave and figure this. out. I ignored them. About a month after. my last update, Dave's mom reached out. She said, "OP, I hope you are doing. well. Can I come and listen to you? I. know a number of people want to tell you. what they think, but I just want to hear. from you. I will say as few or as many. words as you want. If you do not want. them, I completely understand." Her tone. and tenor was different than everyone. else. So, I decided to meet up. We went.

on the back porch of my house. I told. her everything. the breakup with Lesie, including why we broke up, getting the. invitation with the plus one, the. subsequent meeting with Dave and Kim, rescending the plus one because Lesie. was upset, and then meeting up with Dave. and everything discussed with him, and. my decision to say they cannot use my. property for the wedding. After I. explained everything, I was pretty. upset. She asked, "Can I give you a. hug?" I said, "Yes." She gave me a hug. while I cried for a bit. She asked if. there was anything I wanted to say to. her. I asked her for her perspective on.

everything. She talked about how she did. not really know about why Leslie and I. broke up. She had heard rumors about me. cheating and the like, but she didn't. believe them, but she didn't know why we. broke up because she thought we were. happy and had a good relationship. She. admitted she was upset by it because she. was looking forward to coming to our. future wedding. Dave and I having kids. around the same age and those kids. spending time together at her house like. Dave and I used to do. But ultimately, she felt like it was not her place to. say anything since I'm a grown man.

entitled to live my life how I see fit. She said Dave can be a jackass and was. being one here. She told me Leslie's. behavior was out of line, but she did. deeply empathize with Leslie. Dave's mom. told me things that I did not know about. her breakup with a long-term boyfriend. before she met Dave's dad and how for a. year and a half she was an absolute. wreck of a person. During that time, she. said she did a lot of things she's not. proud of and were out of character for. her. She told me that she dreamed about.

a certain life she was going to have and. that dream was shattered and for a year. and a half she would have done anything. to get that dream back. So, she cannot. judge Lesie but thinks Lesie needs. therapy. We shot this for a bit and. then she left. For the next couple of. weeks, I kept getting calls and texts. about what is going on from various. people involved. I decided to just in a. rather factual way lay everything out. I. drafted a mass text message and laid out.

exactly why the wedding was not. happening at my home. I went through. everything I had shared with Dave's mom. I also sent an email. I let it be known. that if anyone showed up to my house on. the original wedding date, I would call. the police. After I sent the message in. the email, a number of mutual. acquaintances and friends apologized to. me for how they contributed to the. situation. Also, apparently hit the. fan on the wedding. Dave had lied about. our conversation to Kim. He apparently. told her he begged and pleaded with me.

to let them have the wedding on my. property. Dave reached out to me to. apologize and see if I would be willing. to talk. I told him I thought it was. best that we do not talk for a while. A. lot of people are mad at Lesie and her. family is blaming her for the wedding. situation. No one showed up to the house. on the original day of the wedding. As. far as I know, the wedding date is in. limbo. >> Oh. >> So, they never got married at the end of. all this. >> Oh my god. Good.

>> But hey, OP stood fast in their. boundaries and that's a win. >> I mean, he was doing a massive favor. I. feel like the least that could be done. in response is let him have a plus one. or like I don't know, just like do a. little bit something. It's his house. >> Yeah, >> I I was thinking about like the farm. where we had our wedding and it's just. like. >> imagine someone it could be one of you. guys saying hey. >> we would love to do that same thing we'd. love to do what you guys did just feels.

right but. >> don't bring it. >> rather you guys not be here like that's. almost kind it's not far off the. equivalent [laughter]. >> we'd love to use your place and. everything but can you just not show up. cuz you have beef with some some. >> people Morgan Uh, don't bring Justin. He's annoying me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, it's crazy. It's like this is. >> my house and I'm doing you a massive. favor and saving you tens of thousands. of dollars and I can't have a plus one.

because you're more concerned about my. ex's feelings. >> Right. Right. Weird. You know, and. that's the thing is like it's it's. really frustrating when people bend over. backwards to appease the person who is. the problem. >> and makes it all the people who are. accommodating and not the problem and. easygoing and makes it their problem. It's like actually so frustrating and. that happens so often. Oh my god, I'm. like realizing this so much lately. Like. the bigger person. usually gets burned. Yeah. Because.

because people are like, "Oh, well, they're easygoing. They're not going to. make my life hell if I make an. inconvenience to them. So, I'm gonna. make their life really inconvenient. They're so nice. Well, the person who is. a train wreck just gets to run. the show. >> And yeah, it's it's like we need to stop. feeding into that. And like we're all. we're all guilty of it. Like we all just. like want to have moments where we're. like, let's just. >> it'll be a person. Yeah. Don't want to. deal with it. Like sorry that this is. inconvenient. Like but like let's just. try to get smoothly. But like we need to.

stop feeding into that and just like be. like, "Nope, no more.". >> I mean, that is the good guys finish. last thing. It's like because you're the. easier one to steamroll. >> Good women, too. Like in general, doesn't that mean that like finish last. as in like you're the one who gets the. girl? >> Yeah. Oh, is that a positive statement? [laughter] Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. It. means the guy who's nice doesn't get the. girl usually is the statement. >> Oh, I thought it was like [laughter]. >> like you you're the last one there. Like.

we're going to grow all together. Hey, [laughter] rebrand. >> Rebrand. >> Rebrand. >> Oh, that was cute. >> It's powerful. [laughter]. >> It is. It is though. It's just good. people, easier people to deal with, like. you say. >> They're the ones who will get trampled. first because it's easy. And then you. don't need to deal with the chaos, you. know? Yeah. >> The problem that's making. everyone Yeah. And what's crazy is time. and time again, weddings. will expose whatever issues are going on. within a group of people, within a.

family. >> Everything comes to a head because you. can stay far apart, >> but the wedding pulls everyone right to. the same place. >> And finally, there are stakes to the. dynamics at play in the relationships. going on. So, it actually like people. will hit their breaking point. >> Yeah. M you know what else can really. bring out emotions and. >> Here comes a segway. Here comes a. segway. She's [laughter] getting so good. at them. >> She's one of them. >> Marrying a widowerower. >> and feeling the need to compete with a.

ghost. >> Is this me? >> This is not you. But you have gotten one. of those. [laughter]. >> Oh, this is me, isn't it? No. Oh, >> wait. What the hell? There's so many of. them. >> You both have gotten It's It's a common. trope. It's a common thing we come. across. This next one is also Angela. very familiar face as you just saw her. And this one is titled, "Am I the. for ignoring my wife for. throwing away my late wife's video. tapes?" [gasps]. >> Oh, this is worse than the one. >> I think we've all had one of these.

>> Actually, every. angel, of course. But. >> yeah, no, it's again, it pops up. I love. this episode. [laughter]. >> Let's do it. So, this is coming from ah. 6 days old titled, "Am I the for. ignoring my wife for throwing away my. late wife's videotapes?". [sighs]. I'm writing this because I don't know. what to do. I have a daughter with my. late wife and her name is Eleanor. Her. birthday is coming up in 2 weeks and. she's turning 18. Background: Me and my.

late wife Chloe had been dating since. college. We got older and ended up. getting married. And after our wedding, she shared news to me that she was. pregnant. I was excited that we were. expecting our first child. Since it was. our first child, we bought a video. camera and made little tapes and. snippets of her whole pregnancy. Wholesome things such as us just joking. around or having lunch or talking to our. unborn child through the camera. We made. a promise to only show Eleanor the tapes.

at her 18th birthday. Fast forward 2 years after her birth, Khloe passed away due to a drunk driver. crashing into her car as she was coming. home from her mother's house. I was. devastated of her passing and went into. a deep depression and having to raise. our 2-year-old daughter by myself. My. friends tried to get me to go out again. and start back up dating, but every time. I did, I felt like I was betraying her. Years later, when Eleanor was 13, I met.

Wendy. We met at a gathering for my. sister's birthday and we instantly hit. it off. She didn't mind that I had a. daughter because she had two kids. herself and just went through a divorce. 2 years after we got married. Now, back. to the present. Eleanor's 18th birthday. is coming up and I kept all of the tapes. for me to show her. Mind you, her mother. died when she was just two, so Eleanor. doesn't remember her touch or her voice. I was excited to show her the tapes. And. a week ago, I was talking to Wendy about.

it, and I noticed her expression going. from happy to looking a bit. uncomfortable. Wendy would always get uncomfortable. when I talked about my late wife. I. don't say things like, "Why can't you be. like Chloe?" or "Khloe was only supposed. to be my first love," but I talk about. her in a way to give my daughter a. mental picture of how her mother was. Wendy has always talked to me about. Chloe and how it made her sad that she. can never be like her. Chloe was a. model, then started working on her. fashion career, and don't get me wrong,

she was a really beautiful woman, while. Wendy had two kids in college and is not. in the best shape. I love both women how. they are, and I've never had a. preference, but I feel like Wendy is. gaining some jealousy towards Chloe. I. told Wendy that I love her just the way. she is, and she broke down crying. The. next day after that incident, she came. up to me and apologized for the way she. acted last night. I told her it was okay. and it's good that she felt comfortable. enough to share her feelings. I gave her. a tight hug and a kiss on the forehead.

She asked to see where the tapes were at. and I showed her the box of videotapes. of my late wife in the closet. Things. were going fine until yesterday morning. I was looking for the tapes because I. wanted to put them in a prettier box for. my daughter. And when I went to go find. them, the box wasn't in my closet. I. looked everywhere to the point I walked. downstairs to see my wife laying on the. couch watching TV. I asked her about the. box and she told me she threw it away,

all with a neutral expression. My heart dropped and I asked her what. did she mean and she told me that I talk. about her too much and that I need to. move on with my life. So, she threw them. away as a head start. I was fuming with. anger because not only she threw away. what I had left of her, she threw away. my daughter's big surprise. We quickly. got into an argument and she noticed how. angry I was, so she started apologizing.

It got to the point I started crying and. locked myself in our bedroom. It's the. morning and I'm writing this in my. office going through my computer trying. to find old files or any type of video. of my late wife to give it to my. daughter because sometimes my daughter. still cries that she never got to meet. her mother and I really thought it would. bring her closer to her. I've been. ignoring my wife for the past day and. she's been texting me non-stop about how. sorry she is, but I really just can't. even look at her right now. It's getting.

to the point our mutual friends are. texting me to accept her apology and get. over it since Kloe died over 10 years. ago. >> Uh-uh. no. Right. >> I'm trying to ignore them all because. they never had someone so close to them. die. I'm working on finding these files. and I'm starting to think I was. overreacting. I don't know what to do. and I really need help. [sighs]. And then here's the first update we get. I like need to process. I'm so pissed.

>> Small update coming from 5 days ago. I. didn't expect this to blow up. I came. here to look for general advice. Now I. have a thousand people in my DMs. I'm. going to be answering questions and I'm. getting about them in the most. I was. thinking about asking Wendy about the. tapes and where she threw them out. But. I saw a comment that told me to not ask. her because it might give her some time. to hide it or lie. Instead, when I went. back home, I checked in the outside. trash cans and the kitchen one, and I. still couldn't find them. Trash day. isn't until Thursday, so I was confused. I finally went up to ask her and at.

first she wasn't going to tell me. I. threatened with divorce like one of you. guys said and she gave in. It turns out. she kept the videootapes in her car. until trash day arrived because she knew. I would look through the trash. >> Shut the up. >> So now I have the tapes. Thank god. >> Thank god. >> Another question asked was, did Eleanor. know about the tapes? No. I didn't want. to ruin the surprise until if I'd known. that I had a backup. She didn't know. about them now, and I'm not planning on. telling her until her birthday. The only.

problem is that I'm afraid that Wendy. might tell her. One more question is. people are asking if I'm considering. divorce. Wendy never did anything like. this before, and I don't want to ruin a. 6-year relationship, >> but at the same time, I really do think. she needs some type of help. I'm. considering asking her to go to therapy, and I'm really considering our. relationship. Wendy is really good with. my daughter and my daughter loves her. and her children like family. I think. Wendy is just trying to take Khloe's. place with being Eleanor's mother. I'm.

really starting to think she has issues. starting. [laughter]. >> That was so innocent. Starting. >> A lot of people also said that if I. don't divorce her, I will betray my. daughter. My daughter is my number one. And I think I should find someone better. that can respect not only me but my. daughter and her mother. [sighs]. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. At least he got the tapes back. >> I'm so happy. Like this one was actually. going to keep me up at night if he.

didn't get those tapes back. >> Yeah. >> How do you come back from that? I I just. don't know if he ever could. >> I don't I mean it's Is there any bigger. betrayal of trust? I would rather. someone cheat than that. Yeah, but it's. for it's for his daughter, too. Like. it's so pivotal. Imagine the daughter. ever found that out like later on in. life, too. >> That my mom left me those tapes. >> Yeah. And she never got to see them. >> Yeah. >> Just scary. >> Well, and the way that she was like.

hiding them in her car, knowing that OP. would look before trash day, and she was. going to make extra certain that those. tapes got tossed. I don't know why she. didn't drive them out to some public. garbage. That's what I was expecting. when they were. >> I did not think they'd be in the car, but. >> still, >> she's acting like he's an addict. Like, I have to get this out of his life. because he can't handle it. It's like, no, that's actually not what's. happening. And it's also not your. decision to make. >> Just give me a jump start.

>> Projecting. That's the thing is like I. don't think it's crazy that people get. really jealous of somebody who they. didn't want to leave. They didn't break. up because they wanted to leave. like. this this is heartbroken like he'll. always have love for this person. I. don't think it's crazy that people get. idealized as well forever. >> Right. Exactly. But like then don't. don't get in a relationship with. somebody if you can't handle that. Like. you have to really do some like selft. talk and be like can I handle the fact. that there's always going to be this.

person who means a lot to them and their. daughter and if if the answer is no. don't try to make it work. Get out of. there. It's not fair to everyone. Bingo. So, we do get obviously another update. It's been a month now. Things have been. definitely dot dot dot changing. For. anyone wondering, Eleanor's birthday. went great, especially without Wendy. there to ruin it. Basically, what. happened was Wendy found my post and.

went crazy about it. She started. accusing me of trying to ruin her life. over something so little. and the way. she only found out because her older. sister saw the story on Tik Tok. [gasps]. >> Hi. [laughter]. We got into an argument and she tried to. gaslight me into being the crazy one and. threatened me to leave and take all I. own and whatever else she said. She then. proceeded to go into our room and start. tearing things down, trying to look for.

the tapes again. >> Oh my god. I pulled her wrist trying to. get her to calm down, but she took it as. an opportunity to start breaking down, crying, saying that I hit her, which I. backed off. And I just watched her as. she tried to throw things at me. And now. I reached my breaking point because it's. the day of my daughter's birthday and I. had little time to get to dinner because. we had reservations. I was already ready. and I had to go pick Eleanor up from a. friend's house. So, I grabbed my keys.

and left her there, not having time for. her to act like a child. And by the way, the tapes were at my mother's house as. we were all going to go there after. dinner. Thank God. The night went great. after that, and me and Eleanor came home. to a messy house with furniture and. pictures torn up. It looked like a bunch. of three-year-olds went wild in there. Wendy and her children weren't anywhere. to be found. Neither was her car. I. already assumed it was Wendy that did. all of this. Plus, I had proof because I.

keep security cameras in the house. I. tell Eleanor about everything that went. down before her birthday, and she was. shocked, at least to know that the woman. she thought was an angel was actually a. Long [snorts] story short, we. call the cops. Wendy gets arrested. She. gets out after 2 days. Now, I'm almost. done with the divorce process. Also, Wendy, if you're reading this, have fun. living at your mother's house and having. a criminal record. I hope it was worth. it. >> Hell yeah. >> Oh my god.

>> Mhm. I can't believe I I really can't. believe we ended up there from the first. update where he's like, "She's never. done anything like this. I was so. shocked by it. I think she maybe just. needs therapy." Like for that to end up. this way and for her to snap like that. >> Yeah, >> that's crazy. >> That's always how I feel with these. Whatever the equivalent was for the one. we did, >> it's the one word that comes to mind is. scary. It just scares me that someone. can hide that about themselves. >> and then you know cracks but then it.

just. >> Yeah, >> cuz this is after a while. >> Yeah. 6 years I think. Six year. relationship. >> Can you imagine? >> Oh my god. >> Crazy. I'm like I'm really paranoid. about even people that are very very. nice. Like if relationships coming to an. end and losing your job, those are. moments and people that like scary sides. of them come out. Yeah. And so it's like. she may never have had it in her before.

to like rip everything up and tear. everything up, but like. >> now that her relationship's crumbling, like it's you see that you see it on. full blast this other side. I and the. thing that also I want to say about. these the moral of these stories for me. is people are crazy. You can't control. them. What you can control is if you. have sensitive items, files, hard. drives, anything, >> make sure you know where they are right. now because security and also if there's. a fire, you know, that kind of thing.

But if you have a hard drive and there's. special stuff on it, back it up right. now. Go buy another hard drive. It's. expensive, but. >> way less expensive than the pain of. losing all that. So, it just it's always. a reality check for me. >> Like, >> back your stuff up. Make sure your. sentimental items are safe. And. >> yeah, >> good moral of the story. Yeah. It could. literally be like somebody who is a. genuinely good person that just has a. really bad moment and throws something. away and destroys something of yours. that's so meaningful. So, I agree with.

you. Like, back it up. Back it up. Yes. >> Back it up. >> Okay. Moving on to number five for us. here. This is coming from the putting I love. you in family episode. I y putting I y. in family. You were on it. That was a different. Lauren. [laughter]. It is titled I caught my husband with. his best friend, but I won't tell them I. know.

>> Wait, what year was it? We know. >> the putting I love you. >> I was just curious what Lauren it was. I don't remember that title at all. >> She's old. >> It is from November 24th, 2022. >> Oh my god. I thought you were going to. say ago. [gasps]. >> That's four years ago. >> Four years ago. >> Oh my god. >> I was like, "Oh, it was only last year.". >> So, it was a different Lauren. >> 2026 Lauren now. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Let's see what you said back then.

What you thought? Another one from true. off my chest. I caught my husband with. his best friend, but I won't tell them I. know. My husband, male, 28, is wealthy. and he is providing me, female 30, a. great life while I'm studying. I would. never have afforded it otherwise. As a. matter of fact, I was a barista before I. met him and didn't even dare dreaming. about starting college. Now I'm in. engineering school. He pays for. everything. We have a great house. I. don't need to do anything but study and.

have fun. His best friend, female 27, from college, separated from her. commonlaw husband after he cheated on. her. She had no place to go and we have. a guest house. I never had anything to. worry about with them because they have. known each other for ages. I always. thought if they wanted it would have. happened already. I was mistaken. I. started having a hunch because of. nothing in particular, just felt that. they changed with each other. So, I. snuck on them after pretending to go to. my mom's. Nobody knows that I know. I.

couldn't let him touch me for 2 months, blaming it on stress from school. starting. Now we do have sex because I. don't want him to suspect me or get. tired of me. I cried the first time he. touched me after I found out and wanted. to vomit, but I blamed it on stress. Now. I just let him. I try to think about. other things and try to convince myself. that it's just sex. I fake it sometimes. when he notices me being absent- minded. and start saying, quote, "Baby, come. back to me." I'm in a race with time to. finish school before he throws me aside.

for her. I also had an IUD put in. without telling him. Nobody knows, not. even my closest friends. Everyone thinks. I'm the luckiest woman on earth, so. loved and cherished by an amazing, successful husband. Nobody knows that I. cry myself to sleep every night. Oh my. god. Wow. So OP responds and goes, "Yes, he. still calls me baby. tells me love you. every morning when I go to college and. he's off to work. Texts me I miss you.

from his morning meeting. Calls during. lunch and texts what I want for dinner. before coming home like nothing has. changed. I can't believe how he can be. so two-faced. Someone asks is she still. in the guest house and OP goes yes. I. don't think she's going to leave anytime. soon. She's talking about getting back. with her husband if he proposed. Oh my god, >> you were bewildered by this one. >> I'm scared that I don't remember any of. this.

>> She's bewildered [laughter]. again. >> Bewildered again. >> But we do get an update. Hi everyone. I'm overwhelmed by the people who. reached out to me and thank you for all. the advice. I might have done something. very petty last Tuesday and I still. don't know how to feel about what I did. and what good it did. Actually, no good. at all. But I think the comments here. triggered something inside of me that. told me to stop hiding. It will have to. wait and see if I blew up my future. God, I hope I did not. As I said before,

maybe not in the post, but in the. comments, that my husband's friend was. trying to reconcile with her husband. She invited him for dinner in her guest. house, and after dinner, they asked if. they could join us for wine, and my. husband was happy to invite them. They. stayed for about 2 hours, and I had a. lot to drink, and I wasn't talking a. lot. When they came to the subject of. reconciliation, I don't know what came over me, but I. just mumbled, quote, "Good. I'm happy. you two are getting back together, so. she stops my husband.".

[laughter]. >> Yes. It didn't go well afterwards. My husband. looked at me in shock, and I asked him. if he thought I didn't know. I've known. for months. The friend's husband kept. asking, "Is this true? Are you serious? I can't believe you." My husband started. crying and the friend started shouting, "You bitch!" and apologizing to her. husband. When her husband left in anger, she rounded on me to yell at me some. more. I told my husband that I was going.

to bed and when I wake up tomorrow, I. want her to be gone or I'm gone. And. then I left them in the kitchen. I heard. them yelling. Yesterday, she was gone. My husband wanted to talk and explain. that it was nothing. He never meant to. hurt me. He was so stupid not connecting. the dots when my mental health was. deteriorating. She meant nothing and he. regrets it. He told me that he wanted to. make it up to me and start couples. therapy because we love each other and. we can overcome this with some help. So.

now he thinks we are going to work on. our marriage. I don't know when he is. going to call my bluff or what happens. when his friend is officially single. I. heard that her husband has asked for. separation of assets. I hope I didn't. ruin everything because of one drunken. mistake. What? >> Wait, I'm confused. I feel like that. last sentence is a different vibe than. the rest of. >> It kind of was. >> I think I think she's in this point and. we talked about it a lot in the original. episode of like it's kind of this weird. problem of like she's faking this.

relationship now going forward to get. that means to an end, which is her. schooling paid for. >> That's right. This is now coming back to. me. >> Her plan was like, I'm going to suck it. up. I'm going to ignore whatever he does. and then I'm going to get through. school, have him pay for it, and I'm. going to be done. But I'm not some. horrible person because at the end of. the day, like I will actually like once. I start making my own money, I'll pay. him back for school. Like I'll pay him. back. Like I'm I'm a good person. >> I don't think it would make her a. horrible person either way. It's like So.

she is now in this position though. She's just like, I hope me blowing up. doesn't, you know, end with us in. divorced and then I can't afford school. >> Interesting. >> Had to have been real satisfying in the. moment, though. >> I know. I felt good as hell to put under. your breath. Yeah. >> Well, and you've been holding it in for. so long to finally just say it. And what. a moment to wait for. >> Yeah, it was it was a good like drop, too. >> I would love to have been there. >> I'm so glad because then she can stop.

my husband. [laughter]. And then to just like it's literally. like setting a fire and then just kind. of like walking away watching [laughter]. it burn. >> Well, it's amazing cuz her guy was there. too. So it's like all of a sudden you. just see the three of them just like. >> scrambling. >> Yeah. You literally just want like Homer. Simpson in the bush off the room. [laughter] like just want to be a fly on. the wall. You guys do your thing here. >> That makes sense though cuz I think if. she had wanted to fix it, she probably. would have brought it to him immediately. and been like, "Hey, what the hell's.

going on? Can we fix this?" But she's. more like, I this is over for me, but I. don't want to be and not be able. to finish school, so. >> whatever. >> I think I remember being like, I respect. the hustle. [laughter] Like he like he. screwed you over and so you might as. well get you might as well get your, you. know, your education. And he wasted your. time. Waste some of his. Whatever. >> Screw it. It's therapist advice. post uh.

is four years old now. No updates since, but you know, we're getting the word. out, so maybe maybe she'll come back. around. Hey, >> she's graduated. >> Four years. I mean, that's the perfect. amount of time. >> Congratulations. Iconically four years. >> Yeah, exactly. But okay, on to this next. one. This is a doozy. And I read the. update and I was screaming. >> Oh, no. So, this is coming from the Odd Layers. episode featuring the Basement Yard. Boys. It is titled, "My fiance is a.

homicide detective, and I'm starting to. feel like he treats me more like a. suspect than a partner.". >> Oh, no. >> Oh, that is unique. >> Mhm. >> I'm excited. >> Coming from our/ relationship advice. >> Nice. titled My 32 female fiance 37 male. is a homicide detective and I'm starting. to feel like he treats me more like a. suspect than a partner. My fiance and I have been together for.

almost 4 years. He's a homicide. detective. My friends immediately. started side eyeing me. They said, "Don't date a cop. It's not worth it. They're all bad, etc." None of them have. ever actually dated a cop, so I found. their opinions more annoying than. anything else. I just felt like they. were basing their judgment off of a. stereotype. My mom said similar things, but she dated a cop who was a former. military guy with PTSD like 49 years ago. and based everything off that. Lately, though, a few things have started to.

bother me. I don't know if it's just. that these incidents seem to be more. frequent or if I was just willfully. blind to it before. I'm just bothered by. these things now. He records our. arguments. I've known about that for a. while. He told me it was quote to make. sure we remember things correctly and. communicate better. And I believed him. at first. I didn't like it and I thought. it was petty and stupid. I asked him if. he saved the recordings and he said he.

deletes them once the argument was. resolved. I have since found a folder on. his computer labeled with dates and. times and their recordings of arguments. or other conversations we've had going. back over a year. He notices tiny. changes in my behavior and asks. questions in a way that feels more like. an interrogation than concern. I also. recently discovered he's done background. checks on some of my friends and. co-workers. Sometimes his phone buzzes. and he steps out for hours without.

explanation, but he just says he's. handling work stuff whenever I ask. He. makes cryptic comments like, "You know, I only trust what I can verify or I like. to know everything that might matter. when it comes to things just between us, even not strictly talking about work.". And then he laughs it off, but the words. stick. It's hard to tell when he's. joking and when he's serious. I love. him, but it's sometimes I feel like he's.

treating me like I'm some sort of. suspect. He doesn't seem to trust. anyone, including me. Every little. disagreement feels like it could be. evidence. Recently, he's made some. comments related to having kids, about. having a tracker on them at all times. He said he'll never let his kids spend. the night at somebody else's house and. that he'll do background checks on every. parent of our kids' friends and. teachers. I feel like those sort of. comments are becoming more frequent and. it's just escalating. How do I handle.

this with him? How do I discuss this in. a way that won't jump into a dumb. argument that he inevitably records for. no good reason? I honestly don't know. how to bring this up to him. I've. considered telling him he needs therapy. because he cannot continue to live life. so suspicious and paranoid about. everything and everyone. I'm pretty sure. he'll refuse that. >> Boy, >> so we get an update on this one. >> Oh boy. I mean, we've been getting. updates the whole time. How bad how much. worse can it get? It can get worse, right? >> He killed her. Don't do that.

>> I think a good starting point would be. for me to admit that I do believe my. fianceé is a good man. He's not cruel. He's not aggressive or violent. and he. believes with all of his heart that he's. right most of the time. Of course, I. realize a lot of people were pretty. negative in their comments towards me in. response to my original post, and a part. of me wants to thank you all for your. concern, but another part of me wonders. if part of this negative response is. simply because of the nature of his job. After sitting on all of this for a few.

days, I decided I couldn't put off this. conversation anymore. I told him that we. have to talk and this isn't about. winning an argument. I began with the. recordings. I told him I knew he had. been stockpiling arguments with our. friends going all the way back a year. ago and how it makes me feel violated. and threatened. He did not deny this. He. explained to me why he holds them in. case things ever get twisted and for. protecting himself. To hear my fiance. speak of our relationship in a way that.

implies he considers our life a. potential lawsuit threatened me. When I. mentioned this style of questioning me. and observing small shifts in my. behavior, he explained that this is. simply how his brain works and that. given all he's observed in his work, he. simply can't shut it off. He explained. to me that pointing out details doesn't. mean that he believes I'm doing anything. incorrect. It's simply that he likes to. verify rather than assume. He told me. most detectives girlfriends simply get. used to it, leaving me to wonder if this.

is a common fact or simply a defense. people make when they're in fact. engaging in poor behavior. The. background checks on my friends and. colleagues escalated into a bigger. problem. He confessed to doing them and. stated definitely he would do the same. on people in relation to our future. kids. He did not think it was an. invasion of privacy, but rather just. being informed. The talk of children was. most sobering. He doubled down on. trackers, no sleepovers, and careful. screening of every adult in their life. When I called this controlling, he said,

"Healthy doesn't matter if they're. safe." That phrase stuck in my head. since. I asked him if he trusted me. He. paused for a very long time before. answering me. He finally said that he. trusts me as much as he trusts anyone. else. I think he did not realize how. unnerving that answer was. I just want. to know where his limits are. I asked. him what would happen if we broke up. He. said he would never do anything illegal, but that he thinks a man must take care. of himself all the time. What's that. supposed to even mean? I've asked for.

some space and I'm currently staying. with family. He didn't appear angry and. I really thought he would get an. attitude about it and accuse me of being. dramatic. He acted very coldly and. matterof fact about it. While I am not. putting an end to our engagement just. yet, I'm definitely considering. everything. As much as I love him and. think he genuinely wants to do good in. our relationship, I don't want a life. where I am observed, recorded, and. assessed rather than being in a. relationship where I have someone's. support. It's it's like I I don't blame.

this guy for operating this way because. it's like it's such heavy stuff. How do. you go and turn it off? How. >> it sounds like PTSD with the children. stuff like the tracker and the no. sleepovers especially, >> right? >> But. >> it's not farfetched. Like it's crazy. I. get it on a baseline, but coming from. the context, it's like. it's not far. I'm not shocked. >> Right. >> Right. But then to. >> But it's not but it's not okay. >> Well, correct. No, I I agree. But like. >> get used to it. No.

>> And I trust you as much as anyone else. Like no, that line should be very That's. the main thing I think is that there's a. difference between me and the guys that. you're per like are pers I guess. I. don't know. It's like you. [clears throat] are a suspect too. >> Yeah. It's giving Jack from Meet the. Parents, the circle of trust. [laughter]. >> Oh, yeah. >> Like, and he has things on everyone. >> Yeah. You don't It's I don't blame him. for it being really hard to turn off. >> He needs to go to some trauma, >> but you got to do something. You can't. You can't run your relationship, personal life like that and have.

healthy. >> Where do you guys think this update's. going to go? >> I mean, >> he thinks she committed some murder. >> No, he either goes to counseling or it. gets worse, I feel. Okay, >> I think it gets worse. So, the update. >> is coming five months from her last. post. So, original post November 7th, 2025. and the last update that we have May.

8th, 2026. >> Wa. >> So, just a couple months ago. >> Wow. >> About 6 months ago, I posted here. because I felt like my fiance treated me. more like a suspect than a partner. because of how much his job affected. him. We got married in midappril as. planned. So, he's my husband now. [gasps]. Sometime in January, I finally told him. very directly that things could not. continue the way they were. I told him. he needed to either seriously address. how much his job was affecting him or. reconsider the kind of work he was.

doing. I actually took my engagement. ring off and gave it back to him and. said I wouldn't put it back on until he. figured out what he was going to do. It. wasn't a screaming fight or a dramatic. scene or anything like that. I was calm. He wasn't calm at first, but eventually. we had a real conversation where he. admitted he didn't actually like living. this way. >> Mhm. >> He admitted he felt constantly worried. something bad is going to happen to the. people he loves and he was depressed and. anxious all the time and he knew it was. affecting him too. He decided to start.

therapy in February and has been going. consistently every week ever since. He's. doing the assignments and homework they. give him and putting in effort. I. genuinely started seeing a difference in. him. He seemed lighter, in a better. mood, more positive about things. I. really thought we were getting better. [snorts]. >> Yeah. Where's the butt? >> Yeah, [laughter] we're squinting at you. >> Yeah. [gasps]. >> I found out that I was pregnant a week. before our wedding. It was very early as. I took a test within a few days of. missing my period. Pregnancy wasn't.

exactly as planned to happen right now, but it also wasn't a huge accident. We. had planned to casually start trying as. soon as we were married by just no. longer using any forms of birth control. or prevention and seeing what naturally. happened. So, I stopped taking birth. control a few months before our wedding. since I've known several women who have. had trouble getting pregnant immediately. after going off birth control. I just. wanted to give my body some time to. regulate itself. We were both in. agreement on this and plan to use. condoms for a few months before the.

wedding. It turns out I'm one, not one. of those women who needs a break from. birth control before successfully. conceiving, and two, we don't really. like the feel of condoms, and we both. enjoyed the risk of what could happen a. little too much. So, we ended up. forgoing the condom half the time. I. would have preferred for it to happen. after we were married, but I was still. elated about it. When I told him, he was. incredibly happy. His reaction was. great. He smiled non-stop for days. He. was excited, affectionate, supportive,

talked about our future. I'm only 9. weeks pregnant now. The pregnancy is. very early. I found out when I was 5. weeks. I just had my first appointment. yesterday. Our honeymoon was only a week. long. I wish it could have been longer, but just not really good timing for my. job right now. He was so positive about. the pregnancy and having a baby during. that week. There was no talk about being. paranoid about our future child's. safety. no worries, none of that stuff. about tracking our kids that he had. mentioned before. He seemed more relaxed. about it than me, whereas I had started.

to worry about every little thing. He. was the one having to make me relax and. not worry about it. Now that the wedding. and honeymoon are over and we're back to. real life, he seems to be having. reservations about having a kid now. Oh, he says he got back to work and started. thinking about all the things he's seen. involving children and he remembers why. he had previously decided that he didn't. want kids. He's back to saying he's. sorry, but he will be tracking our child.

at all times. They will not go over to. friends houses and if they are allowed, it will not be overnight and only after. he's fully vetted them. he doesn't know. how he'll trust anyone around our child. That he doesn't even think daycare is a. good idea and that daycare staff can't. be trusted and so on and so on. He said. he doesn't know if he can do this and. that if we feel two totally different. ways about all of this stuff that maybe. we shouldn't have this baby right now. >> No, no, no, no. That last comment.

absolutely devastated me because this. pregnancy is very wanted by me. And up. until recently, I truly believed it was. wanted by him, too. >> I don't think he's saying these things. because he doesn't love the baby. already. I think he's terrified. I think. his job has shown him the absolute worst. things that can happen to children, and. now he's panicking about becoming a. father. I just don't know where the line. is between understandable fear and. anxiety and behavior that could become. unhealthy for both me and our child long.

term. I don't know what more to require. of him, though. He's going to weekly. therapy sessions. I'm sure he'll be. talking about this, but what if it. doesn't help? How do I support someone. who is genuinely trying and in therapy. while also protecting myself and my. future child from becoming consumed by. his fears? Justin was so right with this. being like, "Meet the parents, Dad. it. I mean, he's got some secret lab. somewhere with all the all the stuff, but. >> honestly, he's giving Dexter and I don't.

know why. I'm not an expert on, you. know, >> people in this line of work, but I feel. like this even his mindset about it. can't be good for his work because he's. so paranoid, >> so biased, too. >> Negatively biased that I'm like, I don't. even know if in a work sense this is. healthy for him. >> I think you got to take the desk job, my. guy. Yeah, it's affecting out of this. detective work because this is just. >> it's psychologically torturing him at. this point. >> It's tricky because there's no.

guarantee. I mean, you have to go off of. what we've seen. We've seen that, yeah, improvement can be made, but it all. collapses very easily. >> You have to assume that's what's going. to happen going forward. Did he say it. was like he then he went back to work. >> like after the improvement was made then. he went back to work and got paranoid. again? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Sounds like he was good during the. wedding and the honeymoon. It was kind. of like a. >> detox for him. You know. >> who isn't having a good time maybe on a.

beach honeymoon. It's like you forget. about all that crazy stuff. >> But. >> to me I'm just like why like why are you. being so risky? Hey, why not just like. get married and then make sure you guys. are good after having this huge [snorts]. conflict of like I don't know, I'm. writing in a Reddit because my partner. and I'm thinking about calling off the. wedding is treating me like I'm a. suspect. It's it's just kind of crazy. and a lot of people talk about it on the. the now best of Redditor updates post on.

it. People are like. >> at the bottom of the post someone adds. what we are all thinking. You posted in. November about how abusive your husband. was and yet you still decided to. actively have a baby with him. And then. there's a top comment on the best of. Redditor updates post. Wisdom was. chasing OP, but she was unfortunately. doing Usain Bolt numbers. >> I think that's kind of mean, but. >> I Yeah, [laughter] I'm not really like. >> you're not you're not on the same side. >> No, I mean Oh, I get where they're. coming from, but like I also just think.

it's more complicated than that and. >> very nuanced, of course. And when I hear. though her writing, it's like she's. still in love with him and she still. thinks he's a good person. >> She still wants to build a life with. him. She's not like he's an abusive. psychopath who is like trying to hurt. me. She's like he has problems that are. affecting me, but he's a good person. So. it's like not crazy that this. >> No, I think it's obnoxious for a. stranger to be like, why aren't you. being objective and logical about this. person you're in love with? Like of.

course you can. Of course you can. Yeah, >> but come on. >> The thing is unfortunately the worlds. are not separate anymore. You can't. focus on working on your relationship. >> and simultaneously separate having a. child together. So now the reality is. we're not debating whether or not we're. having this child. >> Yeah. >> Now it shifts to whether or not this is. the person I want to raise this child. with going forward. It becomes a. relationship issue all of a sudden.

>> And I don't blame her for getting there. No, >> because you know what it's like to be in. something. Everyone outside has all. their opinions, but. >> they'll never understand it from you. >> So, you can only make your best choice. for yourself at that time. >> And you know what? It didn't turn out. the way you wanted. So, >> it's like going to be one of the hardest. things, but you just need to decide now. Baby's coming. Are we going to do it. with with him or. >> by myself? Yeah, we don't have any.

updates beyond this last update. obviously coming 3 months ago when she. was 9 weeks pregnant. >> Yeah, I kind of feel like we might get. another. >> I think we will. >> I have like a feeling that there will be. another. >> I 100% think we will after the baby's. born. I mean, she's what, like second. trimester right now. >> Like, but you know what's interesting? >> About to be the third or is the third? I'm bad at math. I don't know. I sorry I. can't stop thinking about this, but I'm. like this is actually going to be.

really, dare I say, good for him if they. separate because he's going to have to. be forced to have joint custody and let. go of that control. >> Yeah, that's true. Or or he goes full. >> full on crazy mode and is spying on them. and then he has to go to jail and then. he will be forced to confront that and. work on it. Like I think that like if. they do separate like he's going to have. to like shake it out of here. >> It's scary. Again, >> it is. Especially with someone like him. who does have resources like access to.

the flock cameras. Like. >> oh god, >> there's multiple police right now that. are being let go or charged because. they've been stalking women on flock. cameras. >> I don't want to know any of this. >> They don't even have to put a reason in. for why they're wanting access to the. cameras. >> It's like we need to like really. restrict stuff right now. put no reason. and still like. >> Yeah, there was one I saw this guy like. tracked a woman across like 83,000. different flock cameras because she was.

crossing state lines for an abortion. >> Oh, I saw that. >> And it's just it's we need like I get. safety, but there's got to be restrictions on. this. Like this is just. >> so terrifying. >> But that's a That's a side note. That's that's a whole another story that. We'll get it there. >> If there's an Amber Alert, you can go on. my camera. Anything else? Maybe not. >> Right. Right. [laughter] That's how I. feel. >> A purple alert for the seniors. >> Yeah, sure. >> Or just like be a good person. If you're.

going to be trying to be a good person, help the people. Be good people. I just. want to I want to trust everyone. It. sucks that there's bad apples in the. places that we go to trust. >> Yeah. You know what they say about a bad. apple doesn't fall far from the tree. They do say that about it, too. But what. do they say about it? We'll get there. someday. Horses love them. [laughter]. That, too. Okay, the next one might. sound familiar. It's coming from our. step on a rake episode. >> It is titled My 27 female.

[gasps]. roommate 25 non-binary keeps. masturbating with their door open. >> You're lying. We got an update for this. one. >> So, remember how I messaged her? >> Yes. Yes. She DM'd me back on Reddit. >> Yeah. >> Hell yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Hi, thank you for checking. Yes, I'm. okay. And I worked it out with them. I. was going to update soon, but I have a. lot going on. It turns out they really.

didn't know they were being so loud and. I'm inclined to believe them. >> What? >> They were really apologetic and. embarrassed. They never made me. uncomfortable in any other way before. and are usually very respectful. So, I. truly don't think they were doing it. maliciously now that I've talked with. them. And let's play the original story. now. And let's. >> let's see what in mind. Let's see what. we think about this update. [sighs].

[laughter]. >> Lawrence, >> you guys are like, "What?". >> It just it brought me back to like days. where I had a college roommate who who I. was like, "Bad news. >> Tone it down. >> You're loud.". This one is coming from our/. relationship advice titled My 27 female. roommate 25 non-binary keeps. masturbating with their door open. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, [laughter].

no. >> We share a very small apartment. I moved. in around a year and a half ago after. they posted the listing online, and we. didn't know each other beforehand. We. mostly keep to ourselves as much as two. people can in a very small space. The. issue started happening that I noticed. maybe 5 or 6 months ago while I was. sitting in the living room maybe 15 ft. away from their open bedroom door and. they were moaning very loudly.

like it was obvious and I just froze. because I didn't know what to do. Like. they obviously knew their door was open. and they were making noise. I felt like. either they must be obtuse, they aren't, or they're doing it on purpose. They. even tried to talk to me after, and I. brushed them off. I texted my boyfriend. to come and get me because I was. uncomfortable, and I went to stay with. him for the night. Since then, it's. happened at least six more times. Most.

of these times, I texted my boyfriend to. go stay at his house, but he's out of. town this weekend. They just did it. again. louder than ever before when I'm. in my bedroom directly next to them. I. don't know what to do. It feels like. harassment at this point because how. could they not know what they're doing? But I'm stuck in the lease and I can't. afford to move anyways. I don't even. know how I can bring this up with them. because one, it's awkward as hell. Two,

what if somehow they don't know they're. doing it so loudly and telling them. makes them uncomfortable or resentful? I'm not sure how to go about it in the. most respectful way. Three, they've. yelled at me for easedropping before. when I heard what show they were. watching in their room as I was in the. kitchen and said that I liked it. And I. don't want them to yell at me again, even though I can't help having. ears. And four, if they are doing it on.

purpose, then what? I'm stuck here and. don't know what to do at that point. So. my question is, how can I go about. handling this in a safe way so I can. feel comfortable in my own house while. keeping the peace and having it be the. least awkward as possible? What the hell? [laughter]. Yeah, I remember how I felt listening to. this and us being like. >> there's no way. It's hard to believe.

that they don't know. But I feel like. then my inclination was also still try. talking to them unless this is the scary. situation where it is on purpose. Yeah. >> Because I do think that there can be. this. >> this like fog that comes over you of. like I'm in my room like nobody but. didn't the doors the doors are open, right? >> Yeah. That's what that's what gets me. >> I don't know. It like felt to me like. exhibitionism. Yeah. >> Where it was just like me too.

>> And then now that they're confronted, okay, sorry, didn't know I I won't do. that anymore. >> Right. >> But like it felt like you got to know. like if your roommate is in the living. room watching TV. >> and your doors open and you're just. >> flicking the bean or jerking it. Like. you got to like. >> Yeah. You know, you shut the window, close the blinds, shut the laptop so you. don't have the computer uh camera. Like. just you got to like paranoid. What? Like, oh, you leave the door open. Like,

no. That's the easiest step. If I. >> That's the first. >> If I masturbated in college or like in a. place with roommates, door was shut, TV. cranked up loud cuz no one's hearing the. buzz of my batteries. >> Of course. >> Like, we're we're giving me some noise. >> Yeah. >> Like, no, that's just the bass. It's. just a low vibrating hum. That's the. base of the show. I'm watching. [laughter] the music on the stage. >> Yeah. I don't know. I'm like I don't. want to not trust OP's instincts on the. way the conversation went. They seem.

very sure and it's does sound like a. happy ending. >> Yeah. >> But literally. >> I know. >> Oh god. [laughter]. >> I mean, do people in hotels. have this same fog that you speak of? You think that they're just so in it. that no one could possibly hear them? They're in their own house with hundreds. of acres around them of no one else. >> No, I but I do think Yeah, I think. they'd get off on it, too. I think that. I think it's easy to get into that. mindset. Oh god, I might get in trouble.

here [laughter]. >> of like, oh wait, someone could hear me. Uh oh. But then you're like, I don't. know. I'm sorry. Never mind. Move past. it. Let's move past it. >> Wait, what? You didn't say anything. wrong. I actually don't know what you. said. >> Tame. [laughter] I'm just saying that. like I could see why someone in that. moment could be like, "Oh, someone might. hear me. That's kind of a little hot.". >> Sure. >> Wait, why would that be bad? I thought. that's the whole thing that we're. talking about. >> Well, because it's non-consensual, I. guess. I don't have that. Yeah, >> I'm shy. >> That part's bad. But like,

>> what's that? Well, little thing that. people. >> But it's okay. Everyone [laughter] hears. things from. >> Okay, I'm going to put this out there. I. get it's sexual. Okay, it's sexual and. that is definitely different. But how. different in reality is it from someone. coming and sitting in the stall next to. you and just blowing it the up and. not giving a. >> I heard that guys do that recently. >> on purpose. >> They don't care. >> Oh, don't care. >> They're like, "Let me show them.". >> No, I feel like I feel like that doesn't. happen in Yes. Do you guys know the.

lengths I will go to to not have. explosive poop sounds? >> I can wait it out. That's crazy. No, we've talked about like sometimes if. you're in the stall and you don't want. to like have that gas fart when you. start going to the bathroom, you pull. your butt cheeks apart. >> What? [laughter]. >> I thought we were going. >> We've talked about that before. >> You told me that the only reason that. that farts make sounds is cuz our butt. cheeks are together. No, we didn't talk. about explosive poops. [laughter].

I'm talking about like if you sit on the. toilet and you're like even if you're. just going to pee, you know how. sometimes you'll just toot a little? If. you pull your, you know, just a little. spread, you won't do that. I I didn't. know that that was a Okay, this is. making sense. I think I missed the. >> Yeah. And then if you feel like you're. going to have a bad tummy, if you take a. big watt of toilet paper and just kind. of hold it by your back door, that helps. damper the sound. >> Wow. You're really you're [laughter]. really making sure. >> I'm so. >> You've got paranoia in the public.

bathroom. >> She's hid from everyone for so long. So, she knows all of the. >> You guys just talked about this cuz I. just edited that episode. >> Yeah, it's so funny. Well, you've been. hearing them though. >> Oh, yeah. [laughter]. >> I don't know. I still feel conflicted on. this one. I think I want to believe this. positive ending for it. It's hard to. believe. >> that there was no idea, but it's. possible. And if it just moves smoothly. from now on, I guess it's like, all.

right, that was a thing that happened in. the past. But. >> yeah, >> but if it happens again, >> I think then they know for sure. No, the. door was left open. It was on purpose. And I think that they just are like, "Oh. I'm going to do this until. somebody gets mad about it." They might. have thought the other person was into. it, too. >> They were like having this in their head. double-sided relationship about the. masturbation. Stand inside the doorway. Listen from there. >> Maybe. >> listen and watch. >> Okay, >> we're moving on to number eight here.

>> This is a a vintage one. It feels. vintage. It's not that old. It's. actually. >> I'm wearing the same shirt. [laughter]. I was also wearing a similar one. Not. that old. It's from April 10th, 2025. So this is a story that I thought about. constantly after we read it and it is. titled hair stylist has been taking. slashkeeping my hair.

>> love [sighs] sat. >> I completely forgot about that I I kept. that story there [laughter]. >> this is coming from true off my chest. titled hair stylist has been taking. slash keeping my hair. I'm weirded out. I'm going to be vague because obvious. reasons. I'm 30s female and my stylist. is 40s. I got my haircut today at a. stylist I've been using for about 9.

months now. I think this is my sixth. appointment with them. I usually do a. trim or cut and style. Today, I went. from long hair, high lower back to an. A-line bob. Again, since I started. seeing this person, I usually get. current style or maintenance and trims. This time was a dramatic length. adjustment. So, they took a picture of. the cut length on the floor to add to. their social media. Then, intending to. add before and after of ours, too.

That's all totally fine and normal. They. go grab a broom, sweep up the hair, and. place the dustpan on the counter for a. bit. Again, normal. They grab the broom. and pan and head to the back of the. shop. They're gone a few minutes. No. biggie. Then they go out to smoke. But. here's where it gets weird. The bathroom. is in the back of the shop, too. I need. to go and I step into the back. I go and. I start to head back out, but I notice. my name on a small cleared tote on the.

table. It has no lid and it has my hair. in it. At first, I didn't really think. much of it, but I looked closer and see. it's not just today's discarded hair, but looks like at least a few of my trim. sessions mixed with it looks like pot. pirie and a little sand or something and. printed pictures of the cut hair with.

dates. Oh, no. Ooh, I don't like that. The printer is sitting right next to it. with today's discarded hair pick in the. tray. There didn't seem to be any other. containers like this when I looked. around. It was weird. So, I took. a picture on my phone. I honestly didn't. know what to think or do and went back. out into the salon. They came back in. and I mentioned that I went to the. restroom and they seemed to freak out a. little bit but didn't mention it. I.

didn't really know what to say, so I. just let them finish styling my hair, paid, and left. As a socially anxious. introvert, this was my nightmare. I got. home, and the more I looked at the. picture, the more ick I got. I ended up. texting them an hour ago, sending the. picture, and requesting they remove the. weird box of me and asking for an. explanation. I said, quote, "Hey, so I. saw this and didn't know what to make of. it. Can you help me understand what this.

is and why you have it? I'm not. comfortable with you having this and. request you please discard the contents. Also, even though I loved my cut, I. believe it's best if I find a different. stylist.". They haven't responded. Lol. What the. [sighs and gasps]. What? Why' you have to put it all out. there? You should have We need answers. You should have been more sneaky about. it. [laughter]. >> Lauren, what? We have answers. Do we.

have an answer? What's [laughter] the. answer? >> We have an update. I just totally hurt. my elbow. [laughter]. Update. It's been about a week and with. the holiday, I've been all over the. place, but I ended up going to law. enforcement to make a report last. Monday. I'll likely end up going back if. this person keeps contacting me like. they have been. What? I'll give a little. timeline. Last Saturday, haircut and.

discovered the weird tub full of my. hair. Texted stylist about weird tub and. said I'll be finding a new stylist. Hair. stylist didn't respond. This is where I. left off in my last post. A lot has. happened since then. Sunday, I woke up. to a bunch of texts from the stylist. It. woke me up because even though I have do. not disturb on on my phone, I have a. setting that overrides that if there are. repeated contact attempts over three in. case of emergencies. >> Here's what I got. Copied and pasted.

3:49 a.m. I don't recommend going to a. different stylist because of this. It's. not a big deal. Small town and people. talk and you may not find anyone that. will take you after this. So, I'd. reconsider. I don't like threats. What? >> [gasps]. >> 3:51 a.m. So, I have your biological. material and it's my property now. >> What? >> I can do what I want with it. I kept it. because I can, and it means a lot to me. [gasps].

>> You're kidding me. 3:54 a.m. Why you send the pick? I know. what it looks like. It's mine. I'm freaking [snorts and laughter] out. 4:00 a.m. You need to respond to me. because I think it's a misunderstanding. about what this is and it's no big deal. And you saying you're switching stylus. has me triggered. I do good work. Clap. emoji. You said so. [gasps]. 404 a.m. I also charge a $350 client.

separation fee. [laughter]. So yeah, you can't just say you're. switching stylists. kidding me? With. more consequences. And no, you said you. already tried a few people before me and. there are not as many beauty people in. the area. 4:11 a.m. Asking for an. explanation for a stylist having hair in. a salon is crazy. Where else would you find hair? And I. didn't do anything wrong. But I will get.

rid of it if you are gonna cry about it. But only if you say you won't be. switching anyone else for your hair. care. You mean a lot as a client and. always tip well and I do good work so it. doesn't make sense and you know that. So. maybe don't threaten someone who does. your hair or hurt their heart by making. accusatory statements. I didn't respond to any of those that. morning because it was so insane to me. I need to process things fully before I.

make a decision on how to deal with it. So I just didn't respond. Sunday. afternoon I started getting phone calls. Oh my god, this person called me 14. times that afternoon. About every other. call, they left a voicemail. Most of the. voicemails just said, "Call me back or. text me back." But two of them were. unhinged. I'm going to paraphrase, but the gist of. the first one was, "It sounds like. they're crying. Call me back. I'm. getting scared you won't come back to me.

for your hair. For real. I just like how. your hair feels. That's why I kept it. Call me." Oh my god. [sighs]. The second unhinged message was left. late Sunday night at 11:38 p.m. and it. said, "I got rid of it except for one. lock. I found out I like watching your. hair burn more than I liked keeping it.". >> Oh. I didn't respond to any of those. messages, calls, or texts. The whole. thing had me freaked out now. I'd. decided by that time I was taking Monday. off of work to go to the police. Even if.

they couldn't do anything, I wanted to. file a report of this weirdness. I woke. up Monday to an email from the stylist. with an invoice of $375. for client breach of contract fee as the. chargeable line item. Again, copy and. pasting here. The email body was quote. for being a. It goes on to say it was sent from their. business email, too. So, they're really. doing everything they can to ruin.

themselves. Even if I had a contract. with this nutter, which I don't. The. original amount was for 350. They can't. even get their extortion fees right. [laughter]. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I did. email them back stating we had no. contract and to cease all further. communication with me from this point. forward. I got ready and started heading. to the police station around 9:45 Monday. morning. I live in a rural area, so. there are portions of my drive to and. from our main town that doesn't really. have cell reception. When I finally got.

to town, I had four voicemails. I knew. immediately who they were from. I talked. to one of the officers on staff. They. took my statement, a copy of the email, asked me to forward all texts and. screenshots of the numbers and of the. calls. They said at the least the calls. and texts could be considered menacing. and harassment, but the voicemail where. they mentioned how they liked burning my. hair was potentially concerning. The. officer advised I contact a legal.

representative in case this person tries. to take the bogus invoice to a civil. suit court, and they said, "I'm welcome. to change my number, but have the filing. evidence if they continue to contact me. after I explicitly told them not to in. the email." and this would only help me. >> Mhm. I reached out to a lawyer Tuesday. and left a detailed message regarding. the situation. They are apparently out. of the office until next Wednesday for. the holiday, so we'll see if they have. any advice. I have since received many.

texts and calls from the stylist. They. sent a happy Thanksgiving text on. Thursday morning as well. >> Happy turkey day. [laughter] What. are you kidding me? >> [gasps]. >> Regardless, they're giving me [laughter]. a lot of evidence to work with. But I'm so unsettled. I can't wait to. hear from my lawyer this week. [sighs and gasps].

Oh my god. We have one last final. update. >> Okay, not to be dramatic, but I would. change my name. I would literally. >> I go with triangle. >> [laughter]. >> You like watching my hair burn? Last final update here. I woke up to new. comments and requests for updates. First, I am okay and safe for now. The. person has continued to contact me on a. regular basis via phone and email. I do. have personal protection that I'm.

comfortable with and can wield with. accuracy, but I'm nearly certain this. person does not know where I live, so I. don't anticipate any type of. confrontation here. Our house and. property has complete camera coverage as. well. If anyone anything shows up, we're. well aware. I will be posting a more. in-depth update with more text and. emails up to this point and regarding a. specific incident that happened on. Friday. On Tuesday, I have an. appointment to speak with another.

officer, then to discuss the potential. of criminal action and legal. consequences for the stylist as a. result. Thank you all for your concern. and the validation that this is. absolutely insane. Yeah, >> I'll leave you with a text from this. past week. One I think you'll all enjoy. Question use for a model of how not to. make friends. Once again, this is copy and pasted. 512. a.m. Don't never say never. You're never.

coming back. Don't make me laugh. I. don't want your ass back. You can beg me. though. might help. >> Got her. I think we have the final. update. >> Oh, no. [laughter]. We do. We got it. Oh, man. I didn't. expect the amount of people following. this. Here's a long- aaited post. The. situation update may not be as. satisfying as many would have hoped for, but here it goes. I met with law. enforcement again this past Tuesday. My. husband and I drove over early that. morning because I was also meeting up.

with the lawyer I'm working with. Aside. from the near constant texts, calls, and. emails, I wanted to pursue legal action. for a specific issue. Allegedly, the. stylist had tried to have my credit card. cancelled. Apparently, they used the. last four digits of my card, called the. customer service line for the card, and. tried to cancel it. I got a call from. the fraud department shortly after this. person attempted to do this, trying to. verify everything to see if I actually.

wanted to close my account. and dissolve. my credit line with them. To be clear, the stylist was not successful in their. alleged attempt. They couldn't provide. the basic info they needed for such. things like my actual last name. It's. unusual and they gave a name that was. almost similar, date of birth, address, etc. Apparently, they thought they could. accomplish this with just my name, phone. number, and the last four digits of the. card. I didn't cancel the card, but did. request a new one for obvious reasons. I.

had no clue why they would want to. cancel my card. To inconvenience me. Yep, that's exactly why. Allegedly, when. I spoke with the credit card company, they agreed to send over the recording. of the person that called. >> No way. >> As well as the phone number the call. originated from as long as the request. came from law enforcement with a. warrant. They gave me a phone number and. reference number for the police to call. and reach out directly. The officer. began working on that immediately. So, it's in progress. >> Yeah, he's curious, too. I went to the phone company over the.

weekend. I had my phone number. transferred to an old phone so I could. still receive calls and texts there, but. I got a new phone number for my actual. phone. The old phone and number has been. turned over to the police assigned to my. case. They did go and speak with this. person yesterday. Apparently, they are. horrified that I went to the police and. had no idea any of their crazy could be. chargeable offenses.

According to the officer, there have. been no further communications via texts. or calls since their visit, and I. haven't received any other emails. Oh, good. A temporary protection and no. contact order has been issued against. them until the first court date. I've. also reached out to the state board of. licensing with all this information and. my complaints. All I can say is they are. investigating. Outside of all of that information, I'm. limited on any other information I can. share since a legal process against this.

person has officially begun. We're just. waiting to see how this all plays out. It's been a long few weeks. I'm hoping. for the best here. I'm already so. relieved to no longer be getting calls, texts, or emails constantly. Yeah. >> Thank you all for the concern, advice, and good wishes. This was meant to be an. outlet for me to vent and process, and. I'm so grateful that you have all. allowed me to do that with a huge amount. of support. Wild ride, wasn't it?

>> Epic, epic story. [laughter]. I just love the like, oh, I didn't know. that that was bad. [laughter]. >> Yes. >> So, the update comes 13 months later. >> Oh my god. >> It just came January 14th, 2026. So, 6ish, 7ish months ago. I'm unsure how. satisfying or inflammatory this will be, but I've received tons of comments, DMs,

and overall requests for an update. Fair. warning, this will be long. I've been. reluctant to revisit any of this for a. few reasons, all selfish. In general, none of what happened over the last year. or so was fun. There was a legal process. in which I was granted a one-year. restraining order against the stylist. This process took a while to get to. court and be heard with continuations. for various reasons, but here's the gist. of what happened. The stylist showed up. to all of the court proceedings, had a.

variety of allegedly fabricated evidence. to show the court that I was the one. harassing them. They had supposed. screenshots of texts from my number. threatening to harm them, calling them. names, threatening to show up at their. business and burn it down. The issue. with this evidence, the phone number the. texts were coming from was on a phone. that was in possession of the officer on. my case. I had already gotten a new phone number. by the time these texts were being sent. The officer had a certified readout of. the phone's activity while in his.

possession, and no calls or texts were. outgoing after I surrendered that phone. There were none. The stylist seemed very. surprised by that information. I don't. think they ever considered that I might. get a new phone or number. The stylist. implied that I had someone else do it or. that I spoofed it from my new phone. number and tried to demand my new number. as a part of the discovery of evidence. That was not granted. I did have to have. law enforcement do another certified. review of my current phone and to.

protect us further, my husband's phone. as well, showing that I or anyone I was. in contact with had not downloaded any. spoofing software to use against this. person or an attempt to contact them. that felt icky but was necessary and. also very validating. They did have a. lawyer, but the lawyer seemed very. cowed. I really believe the. representation was not confident in. their case, especially with the text and. calls this person was said to have. received. The tone, grammar, and.

language used in those communications. was not native to the way I speak or. text. I hate text speak and rarely use. it, especially with anyone I'm not. intimately familiar with. Evidence they. presented with the text was riddled with. it. I do use slang, bestie, but if I. don't know you well, you're getting my. customer service communications. All. that to say, whomever was sending these. texts was not me. I don't care to. speculate about who did send them, but. they read like bad cop dramas. Ultimately, the bench trial was in my.

favor. The stylist was given no contact. with a one-year restraining order, ordered to pay all of my legal fees and. a small monetary amount. To date, that. has not been settled. On to the. aftermath. A few weeks go by and things. took a turn. Random notes on my car. would pop up when I would go grocery. shopping about what a I am and. I'll get what's coming to me. vehicles. slowing down in front of our house and. throwing eggs or honking their horn over.

and over in the middle of the night. I'm. not stupid. I know who it is. And now. they have my home address with all the. restraining order filings. Thankfully, I. also have cameras everywhere on my. property. I would call the cops. They. say they'd look into it. It would. continue. My tire got slashed when I was. at dinner with my husband. The. restaurant didn't have any cameras at an. angle that would show us who, but I have. a good idea. Their salon location was. only 2 and a half blocks away. Small.

towns can be great until everyone in. their mama knows where you are when. you're in town. This all goes on for. months. We make a report for each and. every instance and occurrence. Finally, the cops really started looking into it. more. We gave them everything we had. The car on our footage was not. registered to stylist. When the cops. went knocking at the owner's house, they. claimed they were paid to go piss off. this by the stylist, but thought. it was a prank situation. They were. cited for vandalism and disturbing the.

piece and were trespassed from our. property. Their car was never near our. property again after that. Stylist was. brought in for violating the restraining. order. I thought it would be over. Was. essentially a slap on the wrist for. them. Cycle continues. Stylist finally. spends a few night in jail after the. fifth or sixth instance of violation. Then Stylist files a lawsuit for. defamation of character against me for, get this, $200,000.

What is wrong with this person? According to the stylist, my defamatory. remarks cost them their clientele and. license. I didn't know it, but their. license had been suspended. I guess my. report to the licensing bureau worked. >> good. >> Stylist claimed that I cost their yearly. salary of 200K. What small town stylist. makes this? And demanded reparations for. defamation, claiming that my RORO was. granted under false evidence and cost.

them their reputation and livelihood. >> It's not defamation when it's true. >> When you have a box in my hair. >> I contact my lawyer again and we start. our defense. Lawyer does all the lawyer. things. I'm advised I can counter sue at. this point, but I just want everything. to be over. The case doesn't see a judge. for a while. We go. Both sides are. heard. Case is dropped without. prejudice. At this point, we've had. enough. Once the ARO is up for renewal, we make a different choice. We moved. We.

sold our house, traded in our old cars, and dipped. I didn't want this person to. ever have access to me or mine again. It's been about 5 months in our new home. and things have been exponentially more. peaceful. But I'm also so so pissed off. that it came to us moving. I loved our. house, our community, and the area we. lived in. I'm sorry I hadn't updated. I. just really, really hate thinking about.

this one time I had a weird ass. encounter with my hair stylist that led. to nearly a year of hell. So that's it. That's the update. Had time today. It's. a new year separate from the crazy. So, here it is. And honestly, that's all I'm. giving after everything. I just want to. forget it. >> Unbelievable. >> Oh my god. insane. >> Horrible. What type of illness does this. stylist have? Like, it's so crazy. >> It almost sounds like gado mania where.

someone has like an intense like. obsession with someone else. kind of like well sometimes and they. think that they'll be like leaving them. signs with like a a song playing in the. grocery store. They'll be like, "Oh, they left that for me." Or like they see. a license plate and they're like, "Oh my. god, they left a message for me in the. license plate.". >> But it also sounds like they were doing. spells, >> right? That sounded like a spell setup. If I if this happened to me, I would. immediately get a counter witch spell. going on my behalf. >> Yeah, I still need to use my hex break.

spell. I still need to do that. And I'm. I'm in need to go back to the the. witchcraft store and like dabble in some. new stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Because this. witchcraft store like if you just want. to like cleanse like they have little. hex breakers or umbilical stuff. Like. I've got my friend Megan from Spotify. and like we were talking. I was like, "Yeah, I've got this crazy family stuff. in this." And she's like, "We should do. an umbilical candle ceremony." And I was. like, "That sounds lovely. Thank you.".

>> All you need is some locks of hair. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, >> that is. >> I know who to call scary. >> Yeah, just call up Megan. She's really. She's woo woo. She'll. >> No, no, I meant the hair stylist. She. has locks with hair. >> I'm sure. >> Still, >> that might be the craziest story I've. heard. I don't know. >> This one sucks. I think the update like. so happy that she's out and like safe. and in a good spot, but like you had to. upheave your life at no fault of your. own because this other person can't.

contain themselves and their erratic. behavior and their just absurdity and I. don't know like the way they just like. still this is done. There's a. restraining order and you are going to. have someone honk. >> Yeah. at all hours outside my house. Like. >> so scary. >> It would drive you crazy. Like any of us. would be like, I can't do this. I can't. do this. But to have to sell your house. and move, like it's horrible. I just. think somebody that unpredictable too,

like that's that's terrifying. Like you. don't know what they're capable of. Like. when they have that type of obsession, it's just like not even just the. annoyance and like the frustration and. the cost and like the like time, but. like the like being terrified of just. like. >> you can't relax. >> Yeah. Like what are they what are they. capable of? Like this person is so. unhinged that like it's just. >> it's so awful. Well, I feel so bad for. OP and I'm glad that it's finally. stopped because it also just makes me.

feel like sad that our justice system. doesn't have like a better way of. handling stuff like that. >> So ridiculous how many times she. >> like Yeah. When OP was reading all of. that and was like, I'm going to go to. the police, I was like, well, good luck. It's going to take a lot for them to do. anything whatsoever. It's really like. [sighs and gasps] I get, you know, there. are really good cops out there and like. the system can work, but a lot of times. it doesn't. And I do think overall, like. as shitty as this is, it's so smart. because you never know what people are.

capable of. I just saw a Tik Tok from. this woman who made a Tik Tok about. finding out her husband. is a pedophile. >> And she made a Tik Tok and said like, "I. have a restraining order, blah blah blah. blah blah." and he murdered her. Just happened a couple weeks ago. And. it's just like she was married to this. guy. And it's just like there's so many. of these like terrible. >> family annihilators and those are people. that are supposed to love them and.

whatever. So it's like this stranger. who's off her rocker obsessed, scary, inappropriate, horrible, repulsive, repugnant behavior. >> It's best to just get clear of them. >> Not fair, but the right choice. >> Absolutely. cuz I I've lived like that. >> once in my life where every single night. I would wonder if someone was going to. show up. >> and you double check every door and. >> the day I was no longer in that house.

>> It's this huge weight. So, it's not. fair. >> No. And it it affected you at live shows. like one of our first live shows in. Minnesota, Justin was like, "We need to. make sure security knows not to let this. person in because they said they would. kill me.". >> Oh my god. >> So like they didn't know about this. >> Yeah. Well, we're sensitive. We didn't. want to rock you. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Ser you guys kept it from me because of. that. >> Yeah. >> I didn't I didn't really tell anyone. >> He also didn't tell anyone. But like. it's also, you know, I have enough anxiety with. live shows. You have enough anxiety with.

live shows. He's got anxiety from that. person. It's just like, you know, you. just wanted to. >> just not But like the people that needed. to know knew to make sure Justin was. safe. It wasn't that situation I was. talking about. >> Oh, >> it's a different one. >> Oh, >> I was talking about this one. >> Why is this world so crazy? >> I know. >> I know. >> And it can happen anywhere. >> Anywhere to anyone. >> And no fault of your own. That's the. thing. You didn't do anything to to get. it, but you just end up in it. Unfair,

but you got to do what's best for you. >> Yeah. >> Well, let's go to this next one. This next one is titled, "Am I. overreacting? My girlfriend left me over. a cheese wheel. >> Put the price in there. Put the price of. the cheese. >> You guys ready for the cheese? Let's. hear the original real quick. Am I. overreacting? My girlfriend left me over. a cheese wheel.

Mhm. >> Okay. I, 27 male, and my girlfriend, 26. female, were saving for a house payment. I work and she is unemployed. I have. saved 32,000 and she has saved 4,000. So, I feel like I bear the brunt of the. financial decision-m here. I was doing. the Oxford County cheese trail and I. found a vault release. They were selling. 140 lb wheel of 21-year-old cheddar. It.

was aged using a traditional clothbound. method that's practically extinct here. in Canada. And with over 21 years, it is. extremely concentrated. 21-year-old cheddar often sells for. about $120 a pound. The farm was selling. the entire wheel for $18,500. If I cut it into 200 g wedges and I sell. it at $60 each, I can make 38,000.

I bought the cheese wheel and I brought. it home in my truck. When I rolled it. into our apartment, at first she was. excited. When I started to explain the. financials and investment potential, she. turned sour. She didn't yell, but. expressed she wasn't happy about how I. spent my share of our house savings. She. is now staying with her parents. I think. she's overreacting because she doesn't. understand the Canadian housing market.

Our savings is not enough for a down. payment without ridiculous mortgage. And. we need to take these opportunities. Am. I overreacting or am I the only one with. ambition in our relationship? They post. the receipt of the cheese and the fact. that it cost a printed receipt. >> $18,400. in Canadian money from the Oxford. County, Ontario, Canada cheese place.

>> I've never even seen like a store. receipt like that for that much money. Post the picture of the cheese wheel. We. do get an update. Okay. Photos in the. comments as I can't add to the post. I. have taken some of your feedback into. consideration from my last post. For. those curious, my girlfriend is no. longer in the picture. Done. She cracked due to low risk tolerance. So, I've decided to go in allin on this.

business. No. I initially tried to. return the wheel to the distributor to. recoup some capital, thinking that. they'd have some pity. They were. actually considering it until they came. out to look at the cheese in my truck. Apparently, the minor heat damage I. caused to the paraffin wax while trying. to open it last week compromised the. wheel, which was already non-refundable. in the first place. So, I'm now stuck.

with 140 lb 30,000 plus asset. I had to. pivot to asset protection and keep what. I still have. Keep the cheese. I went. out and bought a true TB2HC. 59 in solid door back bar cooler, a. professional digital temperature, humidity controller, an industrial. humidifier, a vacuum sealer, and. ripening mats. The total cost was about.

8.5K after taxes for the ripening mats. Expensive, yes, but I wasn't going to. let a $30,000 investment depreciate. value. Cheese. [laughter]. Cheese. Cheese. The delivery was. difficult. My apartment door is narrow, so I had to take the door entirely off. the hinges and shimmy the cooler into. the living room. I had maybe a. millimeter of clearance between the.

frame and the unit. I was exhausted and. excited, so I started researching. installation on my phone before putting. my front door back on. That's when my. landlord walked in. Oh no. >> Apparently, he believes my door being. off the hinges somehow removes my. reasonable right to privacy. We already. have a strained relationship because of. my own use of the unit. He still holds a. grudge because I was doing some light. metal fabrication with a consumer plasma.

cutter in my kitchen a few months ago. He saw the cooler, the vacuum sealer, and the wheel of heritage cheese and. started crying about commercial. operations and fire hazards. I told him. very clearly, "The cheese is for. personal consumption. I'm losing it. The. cheese is a fire hazard now. [laughter]. The cheese is a fire hazard." And now. it's for personal consumption. >> There is nothing in my lease that limits.

how much dairy a tenant can own. >> Where's the dairy part of the lease? >> The next morning, I found an eviction. notice in my mailbox. >> Because of cheese. This is nuts. >> It's riddled with spelling errors as if. written in haste. I'm already preparing. my defense for the landlord tenant. board. Am I overreacting? [laughter]. I'm being evicted over dietary. preferences as far as the landlord is. concerned. And I feel like this is an.

unlawful action. >> It feels like not dietary restrictions. It feels like the like industrial fridge. you bought. >> So, as I said, I messaged him and uh we. got a response. I offered to buy the. cheese, of course. That was my first. message. And then I sent another message. again because he didn't get back to me. quick enough. And I said, "Sir, the. cheese, don't leave me, parenthesis, my. people, hanging, all of you guys." And. OP responded, "Unfortunately, the cheese.

wheel endeavor has come to an end. It is. in the process of being incinerated due. to an act of sabotage.". I did not respond to your initial. message as I could not sell to the USA, but I did manage to make significant. sales before I was crushed by government. bureaucracy. I think the health. department got him. >> I I love your gentle heart. I love your. warm spirit and your kind generosity. >> The cheese boy. >> Yeah, but like Oh my god, he made his.

bed. He made his $19,000 or $18,000. whatever. $19,000 cheese bed. That is a. choice he made. actions have. consequences. >> Oh, because he did buy the cheese, but. again, he had that other investment. He. bought like 8K of like like cutting and. stuff to store the cheese and process. the cheese. So, so he thought it was an. investment. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Unless you know what you're doing. Let's. put our money in something that. >> Let's put our money in cheese. >> You could buy an [laughter] $18,000.

collectible item on, let's say, eBay. >> Buy a Birkin. >> and the value is stored in that item and. it can't spoil. It cannot go back, >> you guys. This might be the next Willy. Wonka. >> Oo, look at that. >> Imagine he makes a million. >> Everyone thinks he's crazy. >> Rivers of cheese. >> I would buy cheese and like every couple. cubes of cheese has a little golden. wrapper and then you get something. That's actually a great. >> That's a good business plan. >> Yeah, maybe his investments are going to. pay off. >> He [laughter] He was close, but he.

wasn't, you know, to that next level. yet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You're really You're thinking. outside the box. >> Thank you. [laughter] Yeah. >> The wheel. >> outside the wheel. >> Outside the circle. >> Can you imagine though, literally. spending 18k on a cheese wheel and it. just has to get burned because the. health department found you. >> Can you imagine going home to your. partner, having this like savings. account that you've both put your heart. and soul into, and they're like, "Babe, but I got a big wheel of cheese. Big. wheel." I' I would be enraged. It's also.

so funny cuz in the original story the. way he words it is he's like I rolled it. into the apartment. I can imagine. >> Wait, maybe I'm coming back around on. him. Like [laughter]. >> you might be into him. You might be into. him. >> Uh might be a soul. >> He's, you know, he's a thinker. He's out. there. He's, you know, not risk averse. He's willing to try new things. >> But don't spend your house down payment. on a business adventure that you don't.

talk to your partner about. >> Right. conversation. >> I will say after so many stories that. are so dark, I feel like sometimes I. give a take that's a little too loose, a. little too giving and people are like, "What are you talking about?" And I'm. like, "You guys, >> we just had [laughter] like a stalker.". >> What do you mean? I'm so happy about. cheese. [laughter]. >> No, [gasps] the cheese is a nice. reprieve. >> Yeah. >> Not for her, though. That is her life. savings. >> Yeah. No, that's. >> No, no. OP needs to,

>> you know, fix it. >> Fix it. But I will say I had a lot of. very kind offers from you. Uh, most of. you in Wisconsin, >> willing to send us cheese and we're in. the process of setting up a new PO box. and then I would love cheese. Me and my. family used to drive to Wisconsin to get. cheese. >> Yeah, cuz Wisconsin's got the good. stuff. >> Minnesota got that good cheese. >> I thought that was just like a. stereotype. >> No. >> No. >> Oh my god. We would cross that border. and we would get that squeaky cheese. [laughter].

>> It's really good cheese, >> guys. That is so funny. >> Yeah. >> Crossing the border to buy cheese. Like. for real. I'm not kidding. >> Cheese and fireworks. >> That Yeah, that too. >> That's incredible. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Midwest is lit. >> Yeah. >> I used to love cheese. >> Oh. Oh. >> What happened? His tummy. >> Oh. [laughter]. >> Oh god. So, I wouldn't be able to. partake. [laughter]. >> I'm kind of over the cheese talk. >> You hate Wisconsin anyway. Well, you.

hate the Packers. So, >> I like the fireworks, but [laughter]. >> you're crazy. >> No more cheese. >> You're crazy. So, cheese curds like that. are not deep fried. When you bite into. them, there's a squeak to them if. they're really good cheese curds. >> Hi, Sey. I don't even I don't even know. this. That's how, you know, far removed. I am from this life that you guys have. been living. Like you can hear it in. your in your face when you know bite. down. It like squeaks in your face. >> Oh my god. >> Sign me up.

>> Yeah, it's good. [laughter]. >> You guys are wild. >> I'd like to know that squeak. >> You sound like a. little lactose lactase and you're going. to have a couple cheese curds at the. >> tried. Trust me. >> Well, guess what? You're just going to. have to deal with the diarrhea. >> Yeah. This next one is titled, "Would I. be the for suing my friend when. she didn't come to my wedding?". This is coming from our True Colors app. with Xavier Jernigan, our good friend.

>> DJX. >> DJX. Let's get into this one. Okay, this. next one is coming from Am I the. >> Okay, >> it's only 16 hours old right now. >> Oh, fresh. >> Really fresh. Okay. >> It's titled, "Would I be the for. suing my friend when she didn't come to. my wedding?". [laughter]. >> Wait, wait. >> Suing like litigation like I'm we going. to court? >> Taking her to court? [laughter]. >> Now, was money were there monies spent.

>> on said person? Okay, let's go. >> I, 25 female, recently got married to my. 25 male husband in Bali, Indonesia in. January. It was a destination wedding, but my parents and his parents paid for. their own plane tickets and hotel, but. we paid for our friends plane tickets. and hotel stays. >> Yeah. >> Each plane ticket was about $2,000 USD. >> And hotel maybe $150 to 300 for a week.

My friend Gemma brought along her. newlywed husband, John, but paid for his. plane ticket. The problem is that Gemma. and John did not show up to my wedding. >> No, >> Gemma took the free plane ticket to Bali. and the hotel room. And when I asked her. why she didn't show up, she said since. they couldn't afford their own. honeymoon, this was the [laughter]. perfect opportunity.

And Jim decided that he didn't feel like. going. I was really hurt by this since. Gemma and I have been friends for over. 10 years. >> Stop playing. >> Would I be the if I took her to. small claims court for the money that I. spent on the plane ticket and hotel? >> Get your money. [laughter]. >> Get your money. >> Get your money. >> Get your money. No, for real. Uh-huh. Yeah. I did not at all see it going. there. I'm No, definitely. Sue,

>> you could even still do the honeymoon. and go to the wedding. >> Yeah. Like you got the you got the. flight. You'd be fighting. Best of both. worlds. >> All you got to do is show up one night. >> Stay for a week after. Change the back. Change the flight home day. >> You got to be missing something. >> These are things we said, >> right? Of course. Yeah. Of course. Listen. >> I mean, you're clocking it. You're. clocking it. >> So, update. I messaged Gemma per. multiple comments advising me to invoice. her for the plane ticket and hotel room. But I did something a little better. I. wanted to get proof so if I had to go to.

court, it would be easier to win. I. messaged her this quote, "Hey, sorry for. being so distant, but I just wanted to. talk to you about Bali. I'm hurt that. you didn't show up to the ceremony. I. pulled a lot of strings to ensure that. you could come and then you didn't show. up. Do you think I paid for the trip. just so you could honeymoon with John?". She replied, quote, "I've missed you a. lot and I know the trip was for your. wedding. John didn't want to go because. he felt like your wedding ruined the. illusion of the trip being our honeymoon.

and that you'd understand. >> I replied, "No, I don't understand. You. took advantage of me, and that's not. what real friends do. So, I'm invoicing. you $2,38753. for the cost of the plane ticket and. hotel room. I will give you 30 days, and. after that, I will be taking legal. action.". I received no response, but she's been. posting subliminal quotes on Instagram. [laughter] that are along the lines. >> of entitled friends and having snakes in.

your life. >> Oh god. >> Thank you all for your verdicts and. help. Edit update part two. I didn't. think this could get worse, but here we. are. I didn't respond to any of the. subliminal messages she posted about me. on social media, and I've been very. quiet while I've been getting my ducks. in a row for litigation. But this past Friday, she sent me a. threepage audit of financial and. emotional contributions from 2015 to. present. >> Wow.

>> I wish I was joking. The audits. She itemized every dinner or lunch we've. ever ate. She estimated $18 a meal. Gas. money for driving to and from hangouts. A birthday gift from 2017 that she now. claims she went into debt for. Time. spent emotionally supporting me after my. dad passed. She said she took on the. role of a grief counselor for me even. though I talked to her on the phone. about it once for 30 minutes. One time. she helped me move apartments. She wants. to be paid for her labor. An emotional. distress caused by me and emotional.

distress caused by me threatening. litigation. >> Her grand total $2,412. Convenient. [laughter]. >> Which is conveniently within $25 of what. I invoiced her. Oh my god. >> She then told me if we're really keeping. score that I actually owe her $24.56. Well, >> okay. It's hilarious. Actually, [laughter]. >> I think I stared at the document for 10.

minutes in silence in shock from the. audacity because this is. delusional. To clarify, I never asked. her to cook for me while I was in. college. She did pay for lunches, but I. definitely returned the favor big time. once I graduated. I've boughten her many. gifts over the years. I've let her stay. at my house several times when she and. John argued, and I've also lended a. shoulder for her to cry on when she had. difficult times in life. But apparently, being a friend is now billable. I. decided to give the message a thumbs.

down because if I responded, [laughter]. I will be extremely disrespectful with. the anger I am facing. I cannot wait for. these 30 days to be over because I will. be suing the out of her. This is. such a good update. [laughter]. >> This is a crazy update. >> There's more. >> I could Oh, shutting my mouth. [laughter]. >> There's more. >> What do you mean? >> Let's hear. >> So, this comes sometime later. Okay. OP.

starts it. Sorry that I haven't updated. in a while. I've been trying to get my. ducks in a row before I proceeded with. everything. While doing that, I was. going through photos from Bali and ended. up on the Instagram page of a local. photographer who took pictures of me and. my husband during a sailing excursion we. went on. I was scrolling through their. page and looking at random groups when I. saw a very familiar face. It was Gemma.

and a man. And it wasn't her husband, John. >> What? >> No way. It was a man that I have never. seen before. There were multiple photos. One where they were just sitting down. with drinks, one with Gemma and the guy. wrapping his arm around her, and one of. them kissing electric. [laughter]. That's when everything clicked. My. wedding was the day after everyone. landed, which is why I never saw her at.

all. Not at the hotel, not around town, nothing. I just assumed that she was. trying to lie low around town to avoid a. confrontation with me. She didn't skip. my wedding because Jon didn't feel like. going or that my wedding ruined the. illusion of the trip being a honeymoon. She skipped it because she wasn't there. with John, but with another man. After seeing this photo of her and her. affair partner, I decided to do my own. detective work. I went to her Instagram.

page and tried to see if I could find. the guy's Instagram in her following. list or follower list. Nada. I tried to. see if any guy that remotely looked like. him was in her likes or comments. Nope. I felt defeated until I remembered about. Gemma's small pottery Instagram account. And boom, I found him. Let's say his name is Ryan. Ryan had. several photos that were taken in Bali. on his page. He even had a photo of.

himself in the hotel room that I paid. for. >> Oh my god. >> I was beyond pissed and I just wanted to. get my money back and just be done with. Gemma all together. On the day of our. court date, I told my side, showed the. judge the text messages and explained. that I paid for her trip so she could. attend my wedding and she didn't show. up. Gemma claimed that the trip was a. gift for her new marriage and not. contingent on attending. I didn't even. bring up the fact that she didn't bring. John because the judge didn't buy. Gemma's story. I was awarded the full.

amount back. >> Oh wow. >> Mhm. >> Gemma. >> prevails. [laughter]. >> Gemma walked out of the courtroom. without even looking at me. I know she. was pissed and as expected went straight. to Instagram and this time she didn't. hold back at all. She started posting. about me on her story, calling me a. saying that's why I can't have. kids, posting photos of me calling me. fat, saying that she'll go spit on my.

grave of my dead grandmother. >> What the Just diabolical mean girl. stuff. The last time she brought our. drama to social media, I ignored it. But. not this time. I know what I did next. was stooping to her level, but I didn't. care. >> Let's go. Yes. >> I posted the photo of her kissing Ryan. on my story. >> Yeah. >> And I tagged her and John in it. >> Love it.

>> Oh my god. >> Gorgeous. Perfect. >> Follow this queen. >> Yes. [laughter]. >> I captioned it. Quote, "Sorry we missed. you in Bali. Hope you had fun.". Within minutes, she began spamming my. phone. She was calling, texting, leaving. voicemails, screaming at me. And before. I blocked her on everything, I messaged. her one last time. I said, quote, "You. should have just come to the wedding.".

>> Yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Perfect. >> Look at the bow on top. >> I mean, wow. I haven't heard a story. that good since I couldn't tell you it. So she [laughter] So Gemma obviously I. was like why was she acting so bold? She. didn't know that there was this proof. that like she knew about the affair. >> I mean how would you ever like I never. would have thought oh this random. photographer taking pictures of us on a. boat. >> Who's going to be able to find it? >> But you can like reverse image search.

people's faces now. Like you can like. put someone's picture into an app and. then it finds every photo of them that. exists. But when you're in a foreign. country and there's like I feel like. it's. >> the chance is very. >> very low. Of course, >> don't assume that that would. >> No. And there's so many like tourism. things and so many boat excursions. I. mean, we went on a boat excursion in. Thailand when Lauren and I went and like. it was like drunk Bill Bob's boat. cruise. Oh, there's photos of us. floating around that we probably.

[laughter] would hate. >> Oh, yeah. Us ship face falling off. paddle boards. Like they take so many. pictures. They literally act like a. paparazzi the whole time they're with. you. >> You wouldn't assume that they'd post. every single one either. It's just like. >> they do post it. We just didn't think. anything of [laughter] it. >> But like I would never be like, "Oh my. god, someone now someone out there is. going to make this their mission to. probably find it." But like no, >> I'm curious. >> But it would never cross my mind that. anyone in my real life would ever see. it. Right. And so Gemma Gemma's walking.

just like big dick energy like right. >> like you're not going to find the fact. that I. >> brought my fair partner. >> What is she telling John this whole time. like about why she's getting sued and. why she didn't go to the wedding. >> I would love to know. >> I would love to. She's like, "Oh, I felt. sick that night." Or I She was making. something up. >> See, the shitty thing is these days. someone could just be like, "Oh, they. just AIed it.". >> Which sucks. which sucks with regard to. how satisfying the send is. >> That's what AI has robbed from us.

>> I feel like there's ways to detect it. though. Like anytime there's like an AI. photo and like maybe this is just me. being ignorant, there's like six. fingers. >> Yeah, I'm trying to get better at. detecting that kind of thing. I know. that there are tells, but I'm like I. kind of fell for dogs ice skating today. So, >> I I I [laughter]. did I did fall for the the bunnies on. the trampoline. >> That one got me. >> I posted on my story. Everyone was like, "Looards. [laughter].

>> It's brutal.". >> I mean, yeah, this was. >> that one got me. >> This was such a good story. Yeah. So, I. do see a comment from OP. So, when Gemma. initially did take to social media, she. didn't state why they were fighting. And. I'm not sure what she told John, but. knowing her, she probably told him a. lie. >> That makes sense. >> What I have since found out since all of. this happened through a mutual friend, I. found out that John has filed for.

divorce. >> Well, and Gemma and her son have moved. back in with her mom after Ryan refused. to take her in. This actually makes so. much sense. There's like sometimes. there'll be an update that's obviously. shocking, but then when you hear it, you're like, but that does make sense. for the weirdness that there was in the. initial story. >> Yeah. >> Right. Well, I mean, were you guys super. confused, you and X? Like, were you guys. just like, >> "Yeah, just go to both. Just do both.". Right. I forget where we left off on.

this. I I think it was just the initial. post and we were like, "Yeah, sewer. ass." But there were comments that I. read from OP where OP did say like I. told her it was a gift like this money. is a gift so you can come and I go that. language might you know a judge might. hear gift. That's why I'm surprised that. the just or that justice prevailed. [laughter]. >> I just wish X could hear this update. because I know he would just. >> I'm going to send it to him. >> Yeah. He's got to [laughter] he's got to.

hear it. >> Yeah. No, he'll be so into this. And I. will say it is giving very real account. OP is a part of the four-year club has. commented in various other subreddits. r/n nursing r/s survivor. It's a very. like it'd have to be a very creative. story to make that up. >> I was going to say I'm like I want to. hop on this. I want to be a director. I. want to make this into a movie. >> Yes. No, this is an original thought. >> It's great. It's [laughter] really great.

in in a bad way for you guys, but like. >> Yeah. >> terms of entertainment, >> it's pretty good. >> Yeah. No. Um, >> and she was classy with it. Like sending. an invoice first, just give me the. amount back. >> Just riff reimburse me. >> Yeah. I'm not going crazy. And then the. fact that she sent an invoice for being. your friend for all these years. >> Oh [laughter] my god, I forgot about. that because even crazier stuff happened. after that. I mean, invoicing someone. for like being their support when their. dad died is like you. Honestly, I kind.

of want to just like. >> I don't know, give you a bad manicure. because like that's so mean. Or like. just like a little poke with a cattle. prod. >> I'm going to give you a bad manicure. >> Know when someone cuts your nails. horribly short after you've grown them. out, it hurts. Can't you just be like. shove your face in like cow manure? That's good. >> That's good. >> Yeah. >> Now you're thinking, Lauren. I like that. That's a good one. >> Um, no, honestly though, like. originally, if I would have heard this, I would have thought that her and her.

husband went there, got drunk, missed. it, and then tried to deflect and be. like, "Oh, well, you said it was a gift. and we needed a honeymoon." Like, like. so that they couldn't feel like bad. about it. I would have said, "I got. Bali." What's it called? Bali belly. Bali belly belly. >> Was throwing up all night. I'm so sorry. >> Gemma just handled this really badly. She acted too cocky. >> Mhm. >> She fought back too much. She got a. little weird with it. She could have. skirted this whole situation. >> Do you think this was premeditated, though? Or do you think this she just. fell into it?

>> Well, premeditated. You got those. together. Yeah. >> Yeah. And she had to lie to John. Sorry. I didn't get a plus one, babe. >> That makes more sense. I was thinking. that like her. >> she met a guy. >> Yeah. >> No. >> Like maybe had like a DM type of. situation and was like, "I'm going to. meet you crazy. I'm going there for a. wedding." No. [laughter]. >> No. They were. She played it wrong. >> Yeah, >> she around and found out. >> She did. >> Okay. How we feeling?

>> Awesome. That was I mean, wow. >> I'm going to be up all night. >> That one in the hair one like back. I. know. I can't believe it. God, [laughter]. >> check your stylist back rooms, guys. >> I forgot about that one. I forgot about. all of them until they get brought up. and then I'm like, "Oh my goodness.". [laughter]. >> Mhm. >> Okay. I hope it's one of us. Who is it? >> I see my face. >> Yes. Where are you peeking? >> He remembers you. >> You got to put horse blinders on. >> Oh, I see Justin's face, too. Yeah, me.

too. >> Oh, thank you, Michaela. >> I'm going to get a privacy screen. Lauren will do that to me at live shows. cuz she'll sometimes see my computer and. I'll see her face and I'm like, >> "You'll turn." Yes. [laughter]. >> It's hard to not I saw homicide earlier. before you had read that story. I was. like, "What is going next?". >> It's like when you're sitting in a plane. next to someone and then you're like, "What? So no. I'm so nosy. So this last. one is coming from the episode Beyond. Embarrassing with Justin.

It's titled Wife Says I need to get over. it, but I can't stop obsessing over a. prank that ruined my wedding experience. and left me furious. >> Yeah, this is this is a bad one. >> Fantastic. This is a very very. >> bad. >> Okay, let's play it. Okay, this next one. is coming from a t ah 17 days old titled. wife says I need to get over it, but I. can't stop obsessing over a prank that.

ruined my wedding experience and left me. furious. During the reception, we were all doing. the usual wedding games. Eventually, I. was told it was time to do the garter. removal. As everyone gathered around us. in the middle of the dance floor, my. wife was sitting in a chair and my. friends brought out a blindfold and told. me I would be doing the garter removal. blindfolded. I should have been. suspicious at their grins, but I'd had. some drinks, wasn't suspecting anything. I put it on and tried to be a good sport. about it, as everyone seemed like they.

were having a great time, myself. included. As soon as I was blindfolded, however, my wife slipped out of the. chair and was replaced by one of my. groomsmen. He's a friend of the family. I've grown up with, but I would not say. we're close. Now, I literally cannot. stand him. Although, he's not a bad guy. other than my anger at this prank. Sitting in the chair in place of my. wife, my groomsman was in shorts with a. guarder around his thigh. My wife stood. behind him and was talking to me as they.

walked me over to keep me fooled into. thinking it was her. On their. instructions, I got down on my knees and. began to reach for what I thought were. my wife's legs. Once I found the leg, I. found the guarder and began pulling it. down. But at that moment, I heard my. wife saying, "With your mouth. With your. mouth." So, I leaned forward and grasped. the garter belt in my mouth to the. shrieks and applause of the crowd. With. the guarder in my teeth, I pulled it.

down his leg. And then my wife actually. came around to help me get it over his. shoe because it got stuck. Once I had. the guarder, they told me to stand up. and take off my blindfold. When I did, I. was smiling because I thought I'd been a. good sport and everyone was laughing so. hard. It seemed like everyone was having. a great time. But when I took off the. blindfold, everyone burst into even. louder. For a moment, the entire energy of. everyone at the wedding was focused on. nothing besides laughing at me, at me.

being the sole butt of the joke. It felt. awful. I was furious. I wanted to say and do a. million different things, but I didn't. For some reason, I just felt that. pretending it wasn't a big deal was the. best defense. that showing anger would. be confirming how badly I'd just been. humiliated for their delight. And that. would have made my humiliation all the. worse. So, I sucked it up. I sleptwalked. through the rest of the wedding while. doing my best to keep a smile on my.

face. My wife could tell I was stunned, but she kept on going, too. She. definitely had no idea how badly I was. taking it. Everyone was standing around. us, and we couldn't talk openly about. how I felt, at least not without ruining. everything. and I didn't know whether I. wanted to go there after all the effort. and money put into the wedding. And I. kept sucking it up the next day at the. brunch and for most of the next week. through most of our honeymoon. At some. point, I told myself that my wife didn't.

mean to hurt me and there was no reason. to ruin her wedding memories by telling. her that my experience had been ruined. But then, at the end of our honeymoon, I. had had a few drinks and I just couldn't. help it. And once I started talking to. her about it, I just went off. I told. her it was trashy, that it hurt, if not. destroyed, my trust and sense of. intimacy towards her. I was harsh and. got carried away. After at first. apologizing a bit, she got upset and. left me sitting out there. I think I.

just kept going because I felt hurt and. wanted to maybe make her feel bad as. well, to be honest. Since then, it's. been a difficult subject. I've told her. I don't want to hear about the wedding. I don't want to write thank you notes, look at pictures. If it was tomorrow, I. wouldn't make plans to celebrate our. anniversary. My wife and I have a lot of. strengths in our relationship, but I. just can't stop thinking about this and. the feeling when I took off that. blindfold. I literally cannot stop my. mind from replaying it over and over,

and I get mad again every time. And. perhaps the worst part of it is that. it's all recorded. We had a professional. photographer shooting a video and in the. video I see at least four other people. recording it on their phones. Watching. the video, I find myself looking at the. laughing faces of family and friends in. the video. And there's a part of me that. I'd never act on that wants nothing more. than to punch them all in their faces. The fact I know that these videos are. out there makes it feel like it's.

constantly happening to me. My wife says. that she's sorry, that she thought I. would take it better and laugh it off. and that I need to move on. I think. maybe I am the No good is. coming from obsessing over this, but I. literally cannot let it go. I find. myself coming up with reasons to be. angry. I tell myself sometimes it was. assault because I was tricked into. putting my mouth on another man's leg. without my consent. But I think that's. just rationalizing my anger. I don't. know. Am I overreacting?

Am I the for refusing to let it. go? So, we do have an edit. >> An edit. >> Wow. Thank you all for the responses. I'm digesting and I have to say I'm. genuinely feeling better just sharing. this. Even if some of you don't think. I'm in the right, I'm definitely not as. angry as I was when I wrote this. So, there's that. Although, it does come and. go in response to some of the questions. One, yes, I created this account to.

share this. I'm not AI or a bot. I. genuinely don't know what karma farming. is, but anyone who wants my karma can. have it. Two, it was the wedding planner. who originally proposed the idea. >> The one who knows you the least. >> Literally, she had done it at other. weddings apparently, and she coached my. wife and friends on how to do it. To. drape her dress over his lap and to. stand behind him talking to me. He was. wearing the same groomsman shirt and. coat, but had changed into shorts, a.

stocking, and flipflops. So, that's why. he didn't feel any leg hair. He had like. a full stocking on. God. >> Three. My groomsman is now my. brother-in-law because he's married to. my wife's older sister. What I meant to. say is that he's a good guy. We grew up. together and I like him, but I didn't. consider him a best friend at the time. And now I'm no longer even thinking of. him as a friend. In large part because. I'm mad at him. I don't think there was. a reason they picked him other than he's. thin like my wife. Four, I believe my.

wife when she says she thought it would. be funny and that I wouldn't mind. I. just don't think she thought of it from. my perspective when it came to. concluding this was a funny thing to do. Sometimes I tell myself this is what I'm. mad about. It keeps changing really. Five. A lot of people asked what I. expect my wife to do about it now. besides apologize. I don't have a good. answer to that and need to think about. what that means. Six. My favorite. comment thus far is the guy who told me. to wash the sand out of my vagina. Ha.

Fair play. >> That's the end. >> That's the end. Kind of a somber note to. end on. >> Wash the sand out of my vagina. >> Yeah. >> Huh. >> I feel like you guys are going to hate. me from my roots. >> Oh, do you have a hot take? >> I [gasps] just Oh, I'm a little nervous. >> Sorry. I just. I just think it's funny. [laughter]. >> Like I think it could be funny with a. different couple and that's where it. went wrong. >> Exactly. And if it had been a close.

friend of his where they had that kind. of relationship where. >> I see what you're saying. >> But I think like then again the way he. felt about it is valid and it's like. that's the complicated thing about it. >> And I think that was kind of that's. perfect with our original take. [clears throat] too. like your feelings. are so valid. Like to feel like you're. the butt of the joke in a room full of. your closest family and friends, like. that sucks. >> But to not talk with your wife, like to. not really communicate and then you.

bottle it up to where you're like, I. hated my whole honeymoon. I can't even. think about our wedding. I hate our. wedding. I told her that if her. anniversary was tomorrow, I wouldn't. even want to celebrate. >> Yeah. That's where you really like you. need to like talk to her, unpack it, and. like you got to like really start like. making plans to go to therapy, too. >> Cuz I can see this being so funny. >> Mhm. >> It's But why the wedding planner. obviously suggested it because it's. worked and been funny and fun in the. past, right?

>> Exactly. My brother would find this. hilarious if my sister-in-law did this. to him. >> Yeah. >> You got to know the people. And I feel. like she should have known him better. >> to like know whether. >> that's a big character trait being very. sensitive to being the butt of a joke or. feeling like people are laughing at you. Like that is a thing that people. struggle with and it should be, you. know, pretty clear. I think. >> Yeah. >> I will say though that I've dated. somebody who we could laugh about like.

just it was constantly humor poking fun. >> and then I said something that I. genuinely thought was going to have the. same reaction and it just hit the. trigger and then and I was so confused. cuz I was like but this is the. relationship that we've been you know. working with. But it's just like. sometimes there's something that like. and and I'm picturing I'm picturing him. feel like the Grinch, the little kid. Grinch where like they're like it's a. hack job like [laughter]. and just like everyone laughing and. that's how he's feeling. So it's like.

>> if he doesn't think it's funny, the. worst thing is to try to pretend to. laugh at a joke that's about you that. you don't find funny. >> Yeah. >> No, you. >> So that sucks, you know? So, it's like I. totally feel that but but I'm also like. it's funny. >> Yeah. And also all your friends and. family weren't laughing at you in a. humiliating way. Like it feels that way, but those people care about you. They. thought it was a fun fun moment. >> Yeah. What were you going to say? >> I I left it all in the field. [laughter].

>> Okay, let's get into this last update. So, this is actually really interesting. because when we were on our call with. Direct Caterpillar the other day, aka. Matt, you guys will have met him last. week. I said, "My favorite type of niche. Reddit story is where there's two sides. to it, where someone sees the post and. makes another post in response or hops. in the comments.".

>> I've never had that. I don't think we've. ever I've done a theme. We called it two. sides to every story. It is my one of my. favorite themes we've ever done. >> Was that in that one? >> I'm not sure. We'll have to check. But. it's something I want to continue to do. and now that Direct Caterpillar is. helping us kind of go through our dock. Thank you again, Matt, if you're. listening. Um I'm I'm assuming we're. going to get more of these eventually or. you know the power of Reddit nowadays. It's coming out. So this update is.

coming from the wife [gasps]. Sorry. [laughter]. >> No, I love it. I already did that in my. head a little bit ago, so I I love. watching. It's [laughter] Yes. >> Oh my god, I didn't even know that could. happen. >> Yeah, it could have been the groomsman. You. >> This is a dream come true. >> Okay. >> And I will say this is coming from the. same account that posted the original, so we know without a doubt it's coming. from. >> the same household.

>> Access to that computer. Hi everyone. This is the wife. If you. know us and what this is about, please. know we're very embarrassed about this. We took it down, but it's been shared so. many times. It just keeps trickling on. So, I'm writing this for both of us. This is the last thing we want to say. about this. My husband deeply regrets. some of the language he used. He. intended to write anonymously and was. letting out unfiltered emotions. Abraham. Lincoln said, "Write an angry letter and.

tear it up. My husband made the mistake. of hitting post, assuming that this was. harmless venting. He regrets it. We've. reached out to and are on good terms. with everyone involved. Everything is. fine." As regards to the wedding, I'm. the only one who messed up here. Our. planner gave us options. I watched the. videos. I thought it was funny. I messed. up. This isn't opinion. It's fact. I. messed up because it wasn't funny to the. only person who mattered to me. I want.

people to understand both of our. perspectives. All caps. Because no one. here is an What my husband. didn't make clear is that he was an. absolute sweetheart at the wedding and. afterwards. Overall, our honeymoon was. amazing. And he didn't mention at all. that he only got mad at the end because. I was teasing him about it. and I was. only teasing him because I had no idea. he was upset about it. I could tell I. was needling him, but it was meant to be.

goodnatured. Having said all of that on. my own behalf, of course, I thought he. would think it was funny. He has a great. sense of humor. We joke around a lot and. always will. This just hit different and. sometimes that happens. I feel like an. idiot taking this risk at our wedding. I. didn't exactly tell him to get over it. I couldn't talk about it anymore when it. was first brought up because I love my. husband and was upset to hear him get.

angry. Probably in large part because he. never gets angry like that. Afterwards, we decided to wait to talk about it. until we could do so calmly. At the same. time, we did need him to get over it and. move forward. We can't never mention our. wedding or anniversary again or live. with anger. To the casual eye, it looks. like this is a well-received prank in a. hundred different videos. I thought it. would go over well, and so did everyone. else. I do now wonder if there are.

videos of this prank that didn't get. posted because the husband made it clear. that he didn't like it. Bottom line, this was unfortunate and completely. unnecessary. But you live, you learn, we're doing great, and this has been. blown way out of proportion. On the. bright side, how many couples can say. their weddings were covered by the New. York Post? We're happily moving on. My. husband says he hopes everyone gets his. thank you cards. That's it. Goodbye. So, he posted not anonymously. Do people.

figure it out? >> I think like her point of like Abraham. Lincoln writes a letter and then says. tear it up. Like no one ever sees it. The internet like yes, it's anonymous. because it's on Reddit, >> but it's not private. I think she used. the wrong word. >> and it can get sent around and people. can put two and two together and figure. out that he posted that. >> Yeah. I mean, it's a story that's also. so specific like he posted just got back. from his honeymoon. You're like, "Oh, I. actually just went to a wedding where.

this happened to the groom like. >> and her skinny brother-in-law was. [laughter]. I giggled." Uh, so it's like it's it. kind of like can ding people's memories. to where like then you get a link sent. to you and it's like, "Hey, is this. about you?". >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like especially if. it's on New York. >> New York Post, >> you know, two hot takes covered it and. the post. >> Well, considering that, do we believe. the update? >> A lot of people do question it, especially since it came from that same. account. Is it the wife or is it him.

trying to do damage control because wife. is mad? Unclear. But the majority of. people on this post are pissed. And. before I read a comment, do you have a. thought? >> I'm my thought was more that it's the. wife writing it. Yes. But she's saying. we are going to go post this and make. everyone think everything's fine because. it's in the New York Post because it was. on two outtakes because it's gotten this. notoriety because the comment at the.

beginning of it was we tried to delete. it but it's been reposted a million. times. So, let's clear the air to the. public just like politicians do, just. like any influencer that messes up and. they're like, "Oh, here's the real. story.". >> Yeah. >> Is that just what this is to clear it. and then behind the scenes, what's the. real situation? >> Well, and I agree because when we read. the post, you know, we were kind of in. this boat of like what he is describing. this as like this is trauma for him and.

so when he's saying the things that like. this is going to haunt me forever. Yeah, >> she's kind of being like, "Yeah, no, he. didn't show me he was upset. We had a. great honeymoon." Blah, blah. Like, she's almost sweeping it under the rug. >> So, I do kind of understand now like, "Okay, I see why comments are mad. because even me, I'm like, I feel like. you're you guys still aren't even. talking because you don't type what he. did in the original post that was so I. went through this horrible situation. I. have these feelings. I don't want to. celebrate our anniversary. This will.

haunt me." And then all of a sudden. you're like, "My husband is very. embarrassed about this. We're on the. same page. We're okay. We're fine." It's. like, "Are we fine? I don't know. I. don't think he's fine." So the top. comment on this one with I mean at this. point 50 up votes. >> 50. >> 50. >> So not many. >> Not many. It kind of flew under the. radar [laughter]. >> like to be to basically be like to. basically be like there's it's a small. pool of people over here. But usually we.

have thousands, [laughter]. >> right? >> But the top is, "You're the I. don't feel a shred of remorse in this. post. Lucky for you that your husband. seems to have forgiven you. You may find. out later down the line that he never. actually forgot." Next comment. He will. never forget. This will haunt him the. rest of his life. Haunt is too strong of. a word, but he is likely to remember. that for a very long time. No offense, but haunt is appropriate. There's a. comment here a little bit down. That's. in response to the top one. Two words,

damage control. >> Yep. >> She has been correctly identified in the. New York Post as an I commented. on the original post and this was a. prank that embarrassed him in front of. all their family and friends. She was. extremely dismissive of his feelings and. further embarrassed him by trying to. convince him that everyone except for. him thought the prank was funny. He had. enough self-control and common sense to. not blow up the wedding reception. Where. is the original poster now? They could.

be separated and she is lying about him. coming around to forgive her. I have a. crazy take. >> Okay, my crazy take is that the update. is true and they. this was an like they had that strong. reaction at first and time passed and. they now understand each other and where. it went wrong and have come together. Is. that so crazy? >> Yeah, that's how I feel. Is it really. that insane to think that this could all. be true and like yes, it felt horrible,

but then he understood why she made that. mistake and why she thought it would be. funny and they talked about it and sense. come together on it. Like I could see it. is that. >> I mean OP does respond to the top. comment and says actually we're fine. >> We're good Shut the. up. Um no, I add someone says very. happy for you. Hope it will not. resurface years down the line as. repressed resentment. And OP goes, "What. possible reason could you have to hope. such a thing? The hate is ridiculous.". It's just like so it's so aggressive for.

the crime. I mean, again, I think that. the problem that people are having with. it is that OP came in saying that they. were so shook and deeply shook by this. and then instead of hearing from OP. themselves, she's like, "Let me come in. and do this." So, >> it would have been way better coming. from him. >> Exactly. If it came from him, great. But. like her words, the words themselves. were very respectful and kind and. understanding and like loving. So I.

don't see any problem with that. >> And it feels like it's not connecting. though. You think. >> read between the lines? >> It just feels so far off from the. original post that it's like I do want. to hear from him to believe it. Otherwise, I just see this woman who's. embarrassed. Now that I'm like, okay, I'm sitting with this. Okay. It does. feel like she's just embarrassed in. doing damage control. And she does have. another comment here. The last comment. from her actually he deleted it because. our friends and family found it and he. didn't feel it reflected how he actually.

feels. He was writing angry. We then. posted this because his post has been. shared so much people were still finding. it and we felt our only option was to. address it and set the record straight. >> Feels like a good PR response for a. celebrity. >> It feels but it feels believable. what. the PR teams do. [laughter]. >> I believe it. too. I think. >> it should have came from him, though. >> That's what I think I'm missing from. this. >> Me and my wife are writing this. together, but then people would have. been like, "Blink twice if you're okay.". Correct. >> Right. That's what I'm missing from it.

is that I don't think I I don't know. what the initial response to the first. post was. So, I think if I were coming. from this of an angle of like everyone. was so mad at the wife and then she. comes in is like, "It's okay. It's. okay." like then I understand the. reaction of oh this is a PR cover up. type thing but I think if it was sort of. more like balanced of a response then I. think it would make sense for the wife. to. >> to come in there. >> Yeah. No, I I when I hear this though, like I'm just picturing if I were to do.

that, because I have written out things. that are just full of really angry, like. over-the-top anger over something that's. >> really not that big of a deal. And then. I cool down and I'm like, "Oh, I hope. this never gets I'm" I'm like, "Delete, delete, delete." Like I just need to. like sometimes vent and get it out. And. so I'm thinking if I were to do that. post that it gets out everywhere and. then my and I'm like like hurdled and. like rocking myself back and forth and. being like, "Ah." And then like my. partner is just like, "Can I like do. some damage control?" Like, "I got this, babe." Yeah. And I'd be like, "Yeah,

please fix it. Like I'm feeling so. anxious." And who knows? Justin, I feel. like he's like, "Nah, no, that. This this girl's crazy." Maybe she is, but like I have I have some hope that. >> this is just kind of a misunderstanding. >> I hope so. I mean, I don't know what. proof they could post where people would. then believe it. I mean, there isn't. >> The fact that it came from the same. account, >> I'll never believe it. Obviously, one of. them. >> You'll never figure it out. We will. never know. Just like what's in the box?

>> Never know. >> Never. >> Maybe we need to get on a Zoom call with. them. >> Ask them to Zoom call. Use a voice. changer. >> Yes. Be like, "Are you guys over this?". But. >> it's been a year with you. I feel. >> it's been a year, so they're celebrating. their first anniversary right now. >> Allegedly. >> I think that the biggest thing here is. that maybe she fundamentally. misunderstands him. And then but I don't. think it was like a cruel joke. I don't. think it was this like cruel prank to.

hurt him. I think this is a thing that. Yeah. Other people have had a really. good time doing this on TikTok and she. got caught up in it. >> Mhm. >> I don't know. I don't I could be wrong. Moo. I've done it before and I'll do it. again. [laughter]. The reality is we could get an update, another update that says a. happily married, happily XYZ, have a. kid, blah blah blah. Everything's fine. >> You never know. >> Or you could get an update that says,

"Hey guys, >> I have my account back again. I. [laughter] want to give you the real. update. >> I am free. I am rid of this." Just like. the person who moved away from the crazy. hair stylist. >> He could have gotten out. Is fine. >> It could be either. >> Yeah. >> And we will never know. >> No, we could. We could tune in to the. next. >> Can we trust it? >> Clearly, we're here because of the. updates. >> If it were her, though, couldn't she. have been like, "Hey, it's me again.". >> You know, [laughter]. >> sure. But I think the thing for me is.

she called out the New York Post and. that for me sent an obvious sign, >> warning sign. It is interesting too. knowing that it was hit in the post. It. is interesting that like yeah, she's the. one writing it. She could have easily. posted and been like, "Hey guys, it's. me. I'm over this." You know, I realize. we talked about it. >> Yeah. So, I do think. >> it is interesting cuz she could have. faked being him. >> to make it even smoother. >> Yeah. >> If I were her, I think I would literally.

just go and be like, "All right, guys. You caught me. I'm a He left me.". [laughter]. and like go on and at the very end be. like psych that didn't happen at all. you guys. [laughter]. >> Really? Just send us. >> Leave us. [laughter]. >> Send us spiralade. Did you hear what you. wanted? >> Maybe we do a poll on this one. >> Yeah. >> Maybe we do the poll. Maybe we put Do. you guys think this reconciliation is.

real? And you know, he was overreacting. Hey, a lot of people use Reddit as their. diary. I get it. You know, we read a lot. of those. Or is this damage control? Is. she got him tied up in the back room and. she's keyboard warrioring on her own to. to, you know, make this a little better. >> But for the. >> That visual did did it for you, huh? >> Not even saying he's overreacting. I'm. just saying. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [laughter] That's my thought. >> Coming down from the. >> damage control. Damage control. Damage. control. >> No, but when you said that, I'm like,

wait, but that's not what I was taking. out of his feelings are valid. >> Yeah. >> To be clear. If you're getting laughed. at by everyone in your wedding day and. you don't think it's funny, like it's. fair that you don't feel good about it. >> Dude, I'd be pissed. I'd be so pissed. >> But let us know what you thought about. this update episode. Obviously, you guys. are missing a lot of context and. conversations we had after each one of. these stories. All of the original episodes will be. linked in the description. Very clear,

easy to find. Thanks to Bailey. and go back and listen and add to the. conversation. And are there any stories. that have stuck with you over the years. that we should see if we can track down. an update for? Let us know if you have. any. The hairdresser one was a story. that definitely stuck with me. Yeah. And. you're getting responses. It's not even. public. No, I'm messaging people. Just. the public updates. You're getting the. big bucks. >> Yeah. [laughter].

But thank you guys so much for being. here. I mean, it's been five and a half. years of this show and I really believe. that we wouldn't get a lot of these. updates without you. I mean, we create. so much virality with these stories that. like the post picks it up. Like that. was, you know what I mean? So, I'm not. saying that the post necessarily picked. it up because of us, but. >> it did. It did. >> It happened. You know what? I got. message I got message from someone that. BuzzFeed likes to scoop what we read for.

sure. >> It's not out of the realm, but. >> they probably monitor you. >> We've got some BuzzFeed workers that are. fans, I bet. Hey guys. Hey. >> But just thank you so much for being. here and being a part of this show and. this community. I mean, it is it's truly. so special. And the fact that us four. get to be on this couch now. We got. Bailey joining. Like, this is just so. special. So, I appreciate all of you. And let us know if you liked this. again. If you didn't, do not let us. know. And uh there's going to be more to. come because I have right now in the.

same dock six more stories waiting to be. updated. So I hope to see you again soon. with this theme. Until next time. Until. next time. >> Until next time. >> Until next time. Bye guys. >> Bye. >> [music].