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Okay, we ready? >> Yes. >> We are wrapping up the spooky season. >> with the OG spooky. >> With the OG's. Woo. Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode. of Two Out Takes. I'm Otha. Hi Morgan. You know, just in case you don't know, we've got. >> the claw. >> Justin, and. Lauren. Brownie points for who knows.

what this is. You've become obsessed. with them lately. >> Well, no. I've always loved axelottals. It's just that nobody seems to know. about them and I think it's so crazy cuz. they could literally change humanity. one day. Like the whole world could. change because of axelottals and the. research that they're doing. >> I absolutely love that. >> That was motivational. >> Yeah. I like now I'm like I need to. learn more about axelottles. I'm like. what am I missing out on? Well, I can. tell you. You're like, "Shut up. [laughter]. Grab it up." I Yeah. Give me a couple of.

quick facts. >> Well, the the coolest thing is that they. regrow not only their limbs, but heart, eyes, brain. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. I feel like I've seen some. research on them to like help humans. regrow stuff. >> It's like jellyfish. >> So, that's what they're doing research. on is to see if it can be replicated, if. it can be mimicked. And there is a. possibility within our lifetime that we. see that. And obviously we still don't. know. But the fact that it's a. possibility is so cool to me.

>> Would you live forever if you could? >> No. >> It would make everything meaningless. >> Quite a while though. Maybe take I'd. take a solid 200. But I would want to. age from my 25 to like 40. I would like. that to span 60 years. >> Would you ever start over or No. >> Yeah. You would start from like tomorrow. you're going to preschool. >> I'd start over from uh senior year of. high school. >> That's fair. I like that. >> So, you know what's cool about.

axelottals is they actually stay in. their juvenile state, which is also. really interesting. See, I just want to. be an axelottle. They're so cool. >> Guys, the only thing in life that. matters is the claw. [laughter]. >> Okay. Um, Toy Story 5 or whatever the. last one that just came out was actually. so good. It was like so good. I cried again. I. love Bullseye so much. But let's get. into today's episode because it's been a. crazy month already. We had a.

unexplainable stories episode with. Damian who was our healthy skeptic. I. hope to get him back for more. relationship type drama because he's so. good. And then we had a true crime. crimes from Reddit episode with Angela. and Amanda. That would be last week. And. then we have this. So this is going to. be nightmare fuel 2.0. These are stories.

that are some real stories, relationship. drama that again feel like crimes where. you're just like, "Holy crap, how is. that happening in that person's real. life?" And then we're going to close it. off with some spooky paranormal, the woo. woo vibes. So depending on what you. want, choose your own, you know, little. path, your adventure, and you can stay. for the real stuff at the beginning or. just skip to the end and get to the woo. woo if you really want to get spooky. >> This is smart,

>> you know, cuz then I'm like, some people. are skeptics and they're like, >> get out of here with the woo woo. And. I'm like, that's that's fine. I like to. be a little scared around the Halloween. season. >> Yeah. No, this this this is a great mix. >> You know, who doesn't like a little. haunted hay ride every now and again? Just hop on the buggy, guys. You got. Oaka as your tour guide and we're going. to have a good time. >> And if it makes you guys feel better, I'm a big baby to this stuff. So, I. think Morgan I think I think she takes. that into consideration. So, if you.

think you can handle it, >> I try. But Bailey also did help make. some stories. >> Oh, no. [laughter]. But I think we're okay. I think we're. okay. Um it's so funny. I've seen so. many people comment lately and they're. like, "Great job picking stories." I'm. like, "It is such a team effort now. It's so so so fun." So. >> Oh, yeah. >> Keep sending us stories. I love when you. guys send stories you see and get. excited about. But if you again want. more spooky after this, if this spooky. season wasn't enough, the three of us. are tackling a Patreon episode of the.

same vibe, real and paranormal. So, head. on over to Patreon. I think that's it. Any other updates we want to share with. the people? Justin's musical is less. than a month away. >> It's called The Claw. >> Lauren. Um, it's my mom's birthday. today. Wow. Happy birthday, Jan. [laughter]. Okay, guys. Thank you for being here. Without further ado, let's dive in. Let's do it.

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dive in officially, can we just give. Justin a final round of applause for the. spooky intro song? Woo! >> Yeah, people love that. >> It was so good. It was so so so good. It. >> was fun to make. >> It was incredible. >> Mix it up. >> Yeah. >> Change it up. >> You did so good. We're going to be. coming out with a holiday jingle very. soon. That'll kick off December 1st, whatever episode comes after that. >> What about November? >> November just gets regular. Okay. >> It's kind of an in between. Like it's,

you know, it still feels like fall. So. the pumpkins that don't have faces on. them might stay. >> Okay. >> But other than that, I'm like, it's not. very. >> It's an in between. >> It is. >> It's not spooky. No. >> And it's not holiday. >> What would the song sound like? Leaves. and wind. >> You would find a way. So this first. story I have, this is a bit of a heavy. one. It is true crime feeling. So just. take that into consideration. Okay. Trigger warning for this first one. It.

does contain discussions of abuse, domestic violence, conspiracy to harm. someone. So please listen with care and. if you can't skip ahead. Thank you. It. is coming from r/true off my chest. Again, a subreddit that is meant for. just sharing anything, but it is real. It's titled, "My boyfriend's co-workers. joked about killing me in their work. chat." Yeah, I know. Nope. My boyfriend and I got into a.

fight about his job yet again. I noticed. he was texting a lot after the fight, so. once he went to sleep, I went through. his phone. I saw the first few texts of. them calling me names and saying I'm. self-sabotaging things, but then it. turned dark. One coworker said he should. roofy me so I just sleep and leave him. alone. The next one said she knows how. to place a catheter, a feeding tube, and. an IV so they could knock me out and not. kill me. But then her next text made my.

heart stop. She said they could just. chloroform me, pull all my teeth out, and feed me to pigs, so nothing was. left. The next coworker said her. grandparents do have a pig farm. My. boyfriend said, quote, "Laughing my ass. off, no, that's great." And of course, they all immediately said they were all. joking. I packed quickly and quietly, grabbed my daughter, and I left. Now my.

entire life, as I knew it, is over. I. feel like I'm overreacting. I know the. police can't actually do anything, so I. can't even report it because they never. said my name or anything like that. I'm. just scared and sad. This is awful. I'll. be attaching the pics to my profile if. anyone wants to see the actual messages. I'm mortified. I actually feel sick to. my stomach. >> That's all we got. That's it. >> That's the original post. Wow. Yeah. So unfortunately at this.

point the pictures have been deleted. So. that that's the original post. >> of the text the pictures. Is that what. Okay. >> Yeah. >> You know if I were to see something like. this in any relationship not not like. you and I but a friendship or or any. sort you know I feel like okay I know. these people. They're not actually going. to kill me even though this is really. bizarre and taken way too far. But what. it makes me feel like is okay, everyone.

around me dislikes me. So why am I even. a part of this circle at all? >> Yeah. >> And then, you know, we can go further to. say any threat is should be considered. real in today's times because you don't. know because look at all the true crime. happening right now. >> People are sick. >> What you're like I don't know. So it's. very hard to just dismiss it. But at the. least, I would feel like, why am I even. a part of this group if nobody likes me?

>> Well, and this is your partner. Like, what is your partner telling to these. co-workers that would have them start. insinuating about ways to knock you out, drug you, assault you, murder you? Like, I I then started going down the rabbit. hole. I'm like, she said, "I don't have. enough to go to the police." And it's. like, I would at least want to go and. like make a paper trail. I know. >> I know. I agree. I know some people. [clears throat] are like, "They're not. going to do anything. They'll be. unhelpful." I would at least then be. like, "Okay, well, I'm documenting that.

I was here, so if anything happens to. me, like that's on you." And I don't. even know if that's the right way to go. about it, but like I then was like, "Would this qualify as conspiracy to. commit murder?" And I was looking up. California penal codes and I don't know. where she is but based on California. penal codes and talking to a lawyer. friend. They didn't actually take any. steps. Like they made this plan but no. one in the party took any steps. So I.

don't even think you could get them. charged with conspiracy to commit. murder. I don't even but for me like I. just think that having it down on record. >> would give me peace of mind because. yeah in a lot of stalking cases it takes. a lot of recording each attempt. >> and so I just think that it's better to. be safe than sorry because it it just. gives you more peace of mind is all I. think. I don't think that they'll go. forward and press charges or whatever,

but um I I do think she should give that. to the police. It's really messed up, especially the drugging. Like that's. it's almost like if they would have said. the pig thing only, it's so far-fetched. that maybe that would be looked at as. like a little bit more, but the way that. they start with the drugging Ruby hair. so she leaves you alone. That's too real. and that's too creepy and it's so messed. up and like you said, it's also assault. They're also talking about like they. said the catheter. >> and like that's now it's just all of it.

is is so not funny that I. >> I don't know. >> It's not like when someone gets upset. and they're like, "Oh, I'm going to kill. her. I'm going to kill him." Like when. you you know. >> that though I'm like. >> But people do that. You see that in. shows and movies and everything. It's. like it's. >> it's not real. These are very specific. >> I'm going to kill him. These are very. like we should do this and then we'll do. like. >> and then the one person chiming in, my. uncle's got a pig farm. >> No, it's so creepy. No one in this chat.

is like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, guys. Okay, let's take it easy." Like, they're all. just feeding off each other. >> Do this. Like, is this just their thing? >> I don't know. But again, it's like, what. is he saying to them? >> And you have a daughter. >> Mhm. >> So, you instantly go into protection. mode. >> Yeah. >> I would I would do the same. I think you. think a lot differently when you have a. child in something like this than you. would without. It's like you go. hyperprotective. >> Well, and she did. She's like, she saw. these text messages and she's like, I'm. out. Grab the kid and she [ __ ] left. Like just and amazing. Like amazing.

>> Honestly, this is one of those things. where I don't think it would matter how. good of the relationship was. >> I honestly think that I would I would. dip. But it would also it would be so. disturbing in my brain to think that. they were giving a colorful idea of a. gruesome way of my death. And so he's. visualizing it. He's visualizing each of. those steps of my body being torn apart. and he laughed laughing my ass off. No,

that's great. >> That's great. >> That I couldn't I don't think I'd be. able to look at him again. I would just. be like, "You're sick. >> You're not touching me ever again.". >> No. Yeah. I would shudder at every. touch. I I like even. >> he's done. He's done. >> And he'd probably be like, "Well, I. don't know. They were just being weird. and so I was just trying to like don't. >> I don't want to date someone like that. Nope. You need to stand up for me. >> You should stand up for me. Like, you. should absolutely stand up for me. And. if you can't stand up for me, you're a. weak person and I don't want to be with. you.". >> Yeah. >> You little [ __ ]. >> Yeah. The comments are rightfully as.

concerned, angry as us sitting here. One. of the comments said, "Even if they. don't mention you by name, I would go to. the police because they are speaking. about killing someone." Next comment, I. don't even think killing is the word for. this [ __ ] The things they described. were so grotesque, intricate, and. disturbing. >> Another comment, "You may not be able to. get legal help, but you could at least. drop into your local police station and. just make note of these messages. It may. not go anywhere, but none of that was a. joke. Ensure they are blocked.

everywhere. You made a good choice in. leaving. If you left anything behind, request the police assist in a civil. capacity to help you get anything you. left. Agreed. And OP does respond, I. did. I got all the screenshots sent to. me and have sent them to other people, so they are safe. Yeah, that's good. OP. does have an edit on the original post. Edit: I have actually talked with him. after unblocking him. I didn't tell him. anything, but he claims it was a joke.

No one actually threatened me. They were. all just venting and I'm overreacting. like always. Oh, >> and isn't going to argue with the voices. in my head. Still not going back, but. I'm letting him incriminate himself. more. He also claims I was never. supposed to see the messages anyways. Those messages are his safe place, and I. ruined that for him. [laughter]. What? What is wrong with this creature?

What psychopath? >> Yeah, like that was my safe space. Talking about killing you with my. colleagues from work was my safe space. Pulling out your teeth and dropping you. in a pig pen was my safe space. How dare. you take that from me. Now it's tainted. Now every time I go there, I think about. you be mad. You suck. You're. overreacting. >> Now I want to feed you the pigs twice. I. picture it twice. >> Yeah, you guys. Oh my god. >> You know, we joked about feeding her to. the pigs. Well, now. [laughter]. just a loser. What a loser.

>> Gone with you. >> A sick, twisted, deranged loser. >> Like genuinely concerned. >> It's so deranged and you just like, >> you know how you just you start to feel. so crazy? You can't help but laugh. because you're like, "This is so. absolutely insane." But the reality is. there's a man Caleb Flynn just convicted. for killing his wife, making his kids. motherless so he could be with his. mistress. And. >> yeah, >> you have all of this stuff going on and.

it's like divorce is an option. Like I'm. literally going to when I get back into. true crime, like I'm going to have a sub. series that's like, "Hey, divorce is an. option." Like what what was your [ __ ]. problem? Because it's like people are so. deranged where it's like, "Oh, this. starts as a joke. him and his mistress. were in their text messages being like, "I'll kill her for you." And the. mistress is like, "I want her dead. >> It's not funny." It goes from that joke. to, "You have now kids without a mom and. someone got killed. >> Like, this isn't funny." And his.

rebuttal like, "You're overreacting like. always." Terrifying. I really thought he. was going to be like, "Oh my god, I'm. I'm mortified." I honestly shame. >> Yeah. I thought he was going to be like. I was I was so uncomfortable by what. they were saying and I just like I froze. and just laughed but I was incredibly. freaked out and mortified and I'm I feel. horrible that you saw that cuz I felt. sick to my stomach reading it. Like I. thought he was going to like actually. pull out like the normal human stops but. he was like nope I'm I'm a psychopath. >> and you wrecked my safe space.

>> Yeah. >> Like come on. >> Yeah. >> You did something wrong. You did. >> my safe space. But no, I do think that. this is a good moment to say too cuz you. brought up like having the police come. That is something that I think people. should take so seriously because that is. such a dangerous window that people. overlook. But when you're moving out and. those heightened emotions, it's like it. always makes more sense to have someone. there. Even if you've been married to. this person, if you trust this person, if you have kids with somebody, like do.

everything. Don't go back. Send family, bring police, whatever you have to do. or just leave your [ __ ] because your. [ __ ] is replaceable. I know it's like. >> it's expensive and whatever, but like. your life is worth so much more and like. it on average takes people seven. attempts to leave an abusive. relationship. Seven. And. >> a lot of times they don't have the. resources to do so or they're fearful of. what happens to kids or pets. It's. >> it's absolutely so sad. And I'll make. sure resources are in the description of. this episode for anyone that might need.

it. Sometimes the safest way to leave is to. do it quietly when they're at work and. you don't say anything and you just go. But the resources will be linked and. there's way better advocates and people. out there than you know anything I that. we can say. So, >> and it's not up to seven. It's an. average of seven. So many of those are. way more. >> I know it's hard. It's so incredibly. hard and scary and. tragic. So, just, you know, be safe and.

everyone deserves to be happy and. healthy and loved and this OP. got out and it's just it's so it's so. good. And we do, you guys, we do get an. update. >> Okay, there we go. >> Let's do it. >> We get an update. >> First, I never expected my post to take. off and I'm really appreciative of all. the advice and support. It really. helped. Here's my update. My daughter. and I are safe. We left that night and. got to our safe spot and haven't looked. back. I didn't realize just how bad the. mental and emotional abuse was until it.

was pointed out in a lot of the. comments. I really appreciate that. >> Mhm. >> I did report it to the police. I was. able to gather enough proof that they. were talking about me and they decided. to charge them with assault by threat. >> Oh, hell yeah. Which won't keep them in. jail for long, but long enough to maybe. scare them into leaving me alone. That's. amazing. >> Doesn't say not in jail at all. That's. crazy. >> That's good. The three of them did lose. their jobs. While it was a localowned.

business, I didn't realize it was a. franchise. I reported all of the. messages to corporate as well as some. more that I found about shady things. So, I don't have to worry about them. messing with anyone's food after the. awful things that they planned for me. I'm working on filing for full custody. of my daughter. I did meet with an. attorney for a consultation and got some. sound advice on what to do until I can. actually file and get the ball rolling. My ex has been blowing up my phone, rotating between begging me to come back.

and then attacking me about ruining his. life over a joke and calling me every. name under the sun. I did find out the. coworker in the chat wasn't the only. girl he was sleeping with. Oh, that was. just a bomb that was dropped. Do we know. that? No, that's the first. >> Okay. Wow. Nope. >> My friend went and packed up the rest of. my stuff and grabbed one of his old. phones by mistake. His Apple ID and most. things were still logged in when I. powered it on. Multiple dating apps and. profiles. Thousands of messages between.

him and different women. He slept with a. lot of them. >> But OP ruined it all. >> OP took everything away. >> That's a scary scary birth. That's why. you take those those moments when you. find something very serious because. there's a good chance that there's a lot. hiding under that hood, iceberg, whatever analogy. No protection or birth. control either since apparently one of. the girls was pregnant. Wow. Great. This. is Yeah, this is great. Lots of lies. from him about being at work when he.

wasn't and lots of lies about times he. worked and things like that. It went. back to at least November of last year. So, who knows how long that's really. been going on. So, yes, my life is all. flipped upside down. And I'm obviously. heartbroken and angry, but my daughter. and I will be okay. And I'm okay with. that. We aren't ever going back. And I'm. just ready to move on, get settled. again, and also get every STD test. available. Thank you to everyone who. offered support and messaged me. I.

really do appreciate all of it. I might. post an update once everything is truly. settled, but for now, this is it. That. is a sick, sick, man. >> And I think it goes to show that you. really got to recognize and realize that. red flags can be just cracks that are, you know, opening into something a lot. bigger, revealing something a lot bigger. that's going on. So trust your gut and. make the right decision at the right. time like you did and then you can.

figure all this out later. And then. look, aren't aren't you thankful you. made the decision to leave? Like it just. wow. >> I know. You only know what you know. I. mean we talk about this so much in. stories where people get married, then. get pregnant, have a baby, and all of a. sudden their partner switches. You only. know what you know in that moment. You. can only act as the information presents. itself. This post is now two years old. OP has since deleted their account. We. don't have any updates beyond our last.

one. But I know she's out there living. her best life. And hey, maybe this comes. across her page and we get another. update soon. But very happy for her and. how she left us. >> Yeah. And I also just think too, like. what Justin was saying, when people are. abusive, right, they don't enter the. first date saying the things that. they're going to say to you on year two, right? Like absolutely. So I think it is. really good for us to take it seriously.

when there those little comments. I had. somebody that was on went on a first. date and then the guy me was messaging. her and she was like, "I don't. understand." And he says like, "WTF? How. do you not get it?" like just like. really and like that's early on and. you're already showing these colors and. I think that those type of moments are. good for us to clock and to not. necessarily make excuses for and of. course there's we don't want to be super. harsh like you know people are people.

but there's some things where you can. kind of feel it in your gut and you're. just like that doesn't feel right and. just to give more trust into that. because it is really once you fall in. love with somebody and you're so. intertwined it's It's incredibly hard to. leave even though you know that it's. really abusive and not healthy, but you. love them. So, I liked what you had to. say is all I'm trying to say. Again, those resources will be in the. description. If you need them, please. use them. And sending you all so much. love if you do. Trigger warning on this.

next one, friends. It does contain. discussions of murder and a drug. overdose. So, if you can't handle that. today, please skip ahead. So, this is. coming from. the craziest subreddit. It's r/advice. animals. This is perfect for us. Yeah, salamanders. Yeah, you would think. Um, this is Reddit's gold mine. Axelottals.

Um, this is just a subreddit where they. share anything and everything under the. sun. It is a lot of memes, I will say. Okay, I think I'd like this one. Okay, so the post that was shared on r/advice. animals is titled finally have the guts. to say it. And they share a meme of the. honest bear, I think is what it was. going around being called. And it's.

titled, "My sister had an abusive meth. addict boyfriend. I killed him with his. own drugs while he was unconscious and. they ruled it as an overdose. Holy. what? Oh, what? Um, that is the entirety of the post. The top comment. The funny thing is that. if he gets caught, they'll use. Confession Bear as evidence.

>> Yeah, that is pretty crazy. Next. comment. The moment when a lawyer. introduces exhibit A known to the. internet community as confession bear. lols. No, that's what I'm picturing. Like going up into a courtroom and. having that picture. It's like. >> it's like on an easel. >> Yeah. Yeah. So this created such a stir. I mean this person is admitting to. murder. >> Yeah. >> If what they're confessing on that's. confession bear is true. >> and there's a comment here. You should.

do an AMA at your local police station, but they cross out local police station. and then add on Reddit. Next comment, please include your physical appearance. and address. >> Yeah, >> OP does come back and comment. First and. only comment to be made here by me. I. posted this wondering what would happen. There is some truth behind it, but I'm. not saying what was true and what. wasn't. If I had a dollar for every time. someone took me seriously on the. internet, I would be able to retire from.

today alone. That sounds like you need. to stop commenting on the internet. I'm. sorry to anyone that I've offended to. the point of ruining their lives. To. everyone else, get [ __ ] It's the damn. internet. All caps. If you want to catch. a murderer, get out of your house, put. on some [ __ ] tights, and go fight. crime. I'm quite done with Reddit for. tonight. Back to the shadows of lurking. The world isn't quite ready for me. Oh, this is like the guy from the last. story.

Edit: The reason for this post and the. admittance it was a joke is because. people started posting my own personal. information on there, not [ __ ] that was. in my post history. Sure, you can find. out information about me, but linking me. to something that happened is completely. different. I made a meme about something. and it was turned into people revealing. my personal information. All caps. It. was quite rude and very uncalled for. again. It feels too specific to just put. on the confession bearer.

>> Yeah, bro. >> What? Sorry. Sorry, Justin. You go. ahead. >> No, I mean it's just it's too specific. >> Who the [ __ ] would say something like. that on Confession Bear. >> and just be like, "Oh, I got something I. I made up.". >> Also, if it's a joke, it's supposed to. be funny. We're supposed to laugh. Haha, it's not funny. Like, what? How the the. audacity for him to turn around and be. like, "Are you guys okay?" Like what. what do you mean? Like go put on some. [ __ ] tights and go fight crime. >> Creating an album.

>> You You're insane. Back to the shadows. of lurking. The world isn't quite ready. for me. >> Okay, Dexter. >> Yeah, it's. >> What are you going to do that has an. impact on the whole world? >> So, in real life, the police start. getting involved. >> Yeah, of course. And the FBI. >> Good. Like people basically found out. his information and a lot of people were. joking like I hope you're posting this. on a VPN from an IP far away like but.

people clearly found him found his real. information and it's also something that. could so likely happen. Yeah. I'm. actually more annoyed that this guy is. like takenback by us. Like Yeah. No. buddy. Like you're nuts. If you say. stuff like that it's going to cause a. stir potentially a murderer. And now. backtracking because people doxed you. >> Well, that's why I'm like, we don't even. know that you were not a murderer. >> Yeah. So, the police and the FBI do get.

involved. I have a quote here from an. article. The San Diego Police Department. is picking up where users of the popular. website reddit.com left off. Working to. confirm if indeed a murder actually took. place, and if so, who is responsible, said police spokesperson Lieutenant. Kevin Mayer. Quote, "This may be a hoax. and it may be real," said Mayor. We. received a tip and our cold case unit is. investigating it like any other tip. It. may be a hoax, but it's always a good. idea to report this kind of information. Sometimes it's the one thing that breaks. open a case.

>> The confession came in an unlikely. place, a caption on a photograph of a. bear. Reddit users typically admit to. innocuous mistakes or misdeeds, adding. text to the bear picture to create a. meme called Confession Bear. Users. believe the clues point to a 24-year-old. San Diego man and have posted his name. and photograph online. Police said there. are currently no suspects because they. do not even know if a crime has taken. place and therefore won't name anyone as. the subject of an investigation. That's it.

>> FBI then gets involved. The FBI has now. been contacted about a possible murder. after Redditors reported the posting to. the FBI's tip website. Quote, "At least. one user copy pasted what was in the. deleted comment into tips.fbi.gov. User 0818 said, "If his personal. information links to somebody whose. sister did have a boyfriend who. overdosed, it is likely that an. investigation will ensue.". >> Yeah. >> And that is all we have. >> Yeah. >> For now or you got more?

>> Has not been solved yet. >> Wow. >> Has not been solved yet. I mean, this. post is. >> incredibly old at this point. It is 14. years old. >> Oh, so we have no updates. >> as of yet. >> But then again, just like the first. story, how is this stuff going through. your mind? How do you just come up with. this? >> Oh, I've got an idea for the confession. bear. I'll put this on there. >> when it doesn't have any truth to it.

>> It just feels again, it feels too. specific. >> Yeah, I know. It does kind of remind me. though of uh I thought of the Breaking. Bad scene. Did you guys I could I. watched the first I think one or two. seasons of Breaking Bad and then it just. got too heavy for me. Do you know what. scene we're talking about? Um. >> regardless probably don't admit to. things online if you didn't do them. And. if you did do it then okay. I hope you. get caught. >> Yeah. And I love how you're being so. smartass after like oh yeah well I just.

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best of my ability. I have to remain. somewhat vague in some of the details in. order to protect my anonymity. However, I will do my best to be as clear as. possible about the series of events. Okay. Few. In September of 2015, my. dad's girlfriend, Sherry, started an. affair with one of his friends, Billy. Billy and my dad had been friends since. high school, and I knew him well. He was. nerdy and kind of weird, but he was nice. enough. My dad, not surprisingly, was. pretty upset about the affair, but he.

and Sherry were already having. relationship issues, and I think he was. happy to find a reason to leave her. officially. I know he had had a few. relatively cordial run-ins with Sherry. and Billy as they all lived in the same. town, but he had mostly cut them both. off entirely. During this time, Sherry. moved to a new house only a few streets. from my dad. By Thanksgiving of 2015, my. dad was roughing it a little. I think he. was still kind of bummed about the. affair, but he had also recently been in. a car accident resulting in him losing.

his job due to a back injury. So, additionally, he was having some money. issues pending a lawsuit settlement that. he was waiting on. By December, he was. back on the mend and in pretty good. spirits. We were very close and spent a. lot of time together hanging out or. going to bars and concerts. At the. beginning of December, at 8:00 a.m., my. dad called me at work. We only spoke for. about 10 minutes, but he was in a great. mood. We had some laughs and made plans. to hang out for the weekend. He.

mentioned very briefly that Sherry had. called him about an hour earlier, but he. ignored the call. I barely even remember. him saying it. I got home from work that. night and my phone rang. It was a family. friend calling to tell me that my dad. was dead. >> Oh my god. >> But she didn't have any other details. I. was totally shocked. I had no idea what. was going on and I was in instant denial. because all caps, we just made plans. I. had a million things running through my.

head. Car accident, heart attack, etc. A. few moments later, my dad's two brothers. and my grandmother knock on my door. It. was true, and my dad was dead. However, the biggest shock was that Sherry was. also dead. A murder suicide. I could. hardly believe what I was hearing. To. add insult to injury, Billy was the one. who found their bodies at Sherry's house. and was currently being interviewed by. police. I took a call from one of the. investigators on the scene. He mentioned.

that it was a cut and dry case. Two. adults deceased, each with a gunshot. wound to their head. My dad was still. clutching the gun. My dad was a hunter, so I was curious about the murder. weapon. To my surprise, it was a small. gauge handgun, but it wasn't my dad. It. was Sherry's. Odd, but okay. During this. call, parenthesis, and I will never. understand why he found these details. necessary, but he told me that my dad.

and Sherry had consensual sex prior to. their deaths. He also told me that there. was a gap in time between the deaths, that likely my dad had killed Sherry, had instant regret, paced, and. considered his options, and then. ultimately decided to also kill himself. As I'm listening to this, I just cannot. wrap my mind around any of it because it. was just so out of character for my dad. And not in a I don't believe my dad. could do something like this kind of. way, like a real sincere confusion.

First off, he wasn't even that depressed. about the affair. They had already been. split up for 3 months at this point, and. he was seemingly pretty happy in the. wake of it all. Secondly, as I mentioned. before, Sherry was living in a new. house. My dad didn't know this house at. all. So why slash how would he have. ended up with her gun in her house? He. had his own guns. Thirdly, I knew that.

she had called him that morning and he. ignored her call. It doesn't feel like. someone desperate to kill another person. would pass up an opportunity for an. interaction with that person. None of it. made sense. But I had to come to terms. with the information I was given and to. trust that the police department knew. what they were doing. Not to mention, I. had a funeral to plan and some deep. grieving to do. A few days later, I made. the trip over to my dad's house to. collect his belongings and settle his. affairs. His house was shockingly fully.

on, like lights on, TV on, cat not fed, morning coffee, and weed still on the. coffee table, back door unlocked, etc. It was like he raced out of the door. really quick with full intentions of. being right back. This was not the home. of someone who left with the intention. of never returning. I know mental. illness can and will do strange things. to people, but if nothing else, he would. have never let his cat go hungry. Yet. another red flag in my mind, but I. continued forth. Eventually, I was given.

some of his belongings from the scene of. the crime by police, and my boyfriend. decided to go through his phone to see. if there were any signs of what might. have occurred. We found that after I. spoke with him, he did end up answering. a call from Sherry, which was around 11. seconds long. But we also found a slew. of really weird text messages. None of. the texts appeared to have been from my. dad because one, he had terrible. grammar, and two, he didn't even know.

how to text. I never received a text. from my dad my entire life. He had a. flip phone with T9 in 2015. For God's. sakes, all caps. So many people reached. out to me saying, "This doesn't feel. right." And I agreed. I didn't feel like. any of it felt right. But I had nothing. of any real substance other than gut. instinct to guide me, which is not. enough when dealing with police or. investigators. At one point, I literally. had to ask people to just stop telling.

me that they thought this was somehow a. setup because I couldn't do anything. about it. And I was starting to lose. sleep over it. I was scared to death of. turning into one of those people who. obsess over something out of sheer. denial. No one was going to take my. plate seriously. and I already knew that. I would be overlooked and disregarded. So, for the last 5 years, I've done. nothing but stress in silence until now. This past Friday, I took a call from. someone very close to my dad's friend. group, urging me to push harder into.

reopening my dad's case. Recently, it. has come to light that Billy is. apparently a master con artist and a. fraud. I guess Sherry is one of three. girlfriends that Billy has found dead. since 2010. Oh, hell no. Isn't that being tracked. and recorded? Like, don't on the third. time when they bring him into question. him, aren't they like, yo, >> what is this, >> dude? There's a there's a new doc that.

just dropped on Netflix that this guy. had six wives and the five of them were. dead. Five out of six. So, haven't. watched it yet. We'll report back. But. like, is it like different area codes? So, they can't they don't like connect. or like I just wouldn't that be on file? Is it not on file? This is where I need your help. Reddit. Here is the information I was given. At. some point, prior to my dad and Sherry's. death, Billy was dating a woman who had. recently come into money. Shortly after,

this woman was found dead at the bottom. of her stairs. Around the time that. Billy started having his affair with. Sherry, she had recently inherited. between 500,000 and 800,000 from her. father passing away. >> Wow. Billy's current girlfriend has had. organ failure since last year. She. recently inherited a large sum of money. and Billy found her dead last Tuesday. Now, I know she was already sick, but. the rumor is that she pleaded for. medical help for days and I guess he.

just basically let her suffer. >> Wow. I also found out that Billy took. photos of my dad and Sherry's bodies. before he bothered to call police. Why? He later showed these photos to his. young daughter. Double Y. He has also told the story of. how he found their bodies numerous times. to the same person. Yet, the story has. been told in three different ways. >> Of course. Did he take the photos as.

some sick trophy or did he take the. photos to be able to maintain his. narrative? Upon learning this. information, I kept thinking, quote, "But why would he have had to kill my. dad in order to steal Sherry's money?". And then it finally dawned on me today. that it was so my dad could be the. scapegoat. He had to use my dad to. portray a crime of passion scene so he. could pretend to be a victim in the. whole thing. Even though he was. interviewed by police, it was just an. interview, not an interrogation.

>> Wow. >> The investigator said it was a cut and. dry scene. They would have had no motive. to interrogate him because as far as. they could tell, the murderer was dead. already. However, I do know there was. about an hour in his timeline that day. that went unaccounted for. Billy has a. very high IQ. I don't think he would. have been strong enough to fight my dad. in hand-to-hand combat, but I very much. believe he could have easily outsmarted. him. My current conspiracy theory is. that Billy went to Sherry's house that.

morning before work, had consensual sex. with her, killed her, and then used her. phone to call my dad, which was the 7. a.m. call. My dad didn't answer the. call, and then Billy went to work to. maintain his story. I think Billy then. used his lunch break, the unaccounted 4. hour and also the almost identical time. to my dad's death to go back to Sherry's. house where he used her phone to call my. dad again. This is the 11-second call. that my dad did answer that caused him. to race over to Sherry's house, leaving.

his house in the state I found it 2 days. later. I think he tricked my dad into. coming to Sherry's where he would then. be caught off guard and out of his. element for an attack. I also think this. could be where the gap in their desks. could be. I think Billy went back to. work for the rest of the day and then. found my dad and Sherry, where he then. took the photos and then called the. police. Here is my problem. I have no. idea what to do. I don't know how to. reopen a closed case. I don't have any. direction on who to speak with. I've.

tried the police department who handled. my dad's case, the local FBI, and the. state attorney general, and no one can. even tell me who could help me with. this. Do I need a private investigator? Do I need an attorney? Is this worth. looking into at all? I would love to. clear my dad's name and take this. horrible weight off of my family's. shoulders once and for all. I am also. fully prepared to accept that I could be. wrong, but now I have to know. Any help. is greatly appreciated. I feel like I.

have to know. >> Yeah, there's no way you're wrong. >> No, >> I mean, it's oddly suspicious that Billy. would have three girlfriends that have. passed and he is always the one to find. them or like he's also benefiting from. their deaths every time. It's very very. strange to. >> a serial killer. Well, and the way the. dad rushed out, like I can imagine a. frantic call like, "Oh my god, like I. need you over here. I need help." Like, or maybe he said, "If you don't get here.

right now," like maybe he even. threatened on I don't know. No, he. probably would have called the police. >> You never You never know. You never. know. People who are close to. >> an 11second call is like nothing. >> People who are close to a victim will. always know better than police who know. nothing about these people. Yeah. Of. course, police are going to come in. It's like, "Oh, yeah. Simple. seen this. 100 thousand times. Easy done. But like. everyone who's close to that person. would be like, "No [ __ ] way. That's. not how this happened.".

>> Yeah. >> So 100% you have to do something. I. don't know what it is. I know Reddit's. going to have the answer, but my gut. would be attorney. I need someone on my. side. I need to be able to tell this. story and get it to the right place. because holy [ __ ] is it convincing. And. not just like you're trying to convince. me, just matter of fact convincing like. you know your dad best. >> I think this Billy guy is probably very. smart. It's it's weird to say, but it's. orchestrated in a way where it was done. where it's so like mysterious to where.

everyone else of course you know what. the cops are going to think. So it's. like you are the one person who can push. this forward and potentially make. something happen. I think you would. regret forever if you didn't at least. try. >> and like save lives too because clearly. like this this guy Yeah. He's out there. He's not stopping. So if it's not even. for you, your family, your dad, it's. like it's for the future victims. >> and don't let him catch wind that you're.

doing this. >> Uhoh. >> Like in any sense, >> we're like talking about a very public. podcast. [laughter]. So the story. did do some some numbers. It did gain. traction. 8.5K up votes on the RBI. subreddit, but we don't know what. details have been changed. Fake names, obviously. Is Billy on Reddit? We don't. know. So, there's a chance. But I will. note, I think this is what's so hard. looking at a lot of true crime,

horrible, horrible cases and victims and. things that happen out there. I think. this could be very like front of mind. for a lot of people right now because. obviously there's been a very public. case Lindsay Clancy's trial I was. thinking about too. >> and the internet has gone two polar ends. of the spectrum on it. >> she's guilty. >> Patrick the husband why aren't we. looking at him there was no. investigation and I think that's what's. hard is like when you have something.

that to investigators they walk in and. it looks quote cut and dry as OP said. >> and they just take it at the face value. There's not any digging that goes on. further. So, it's like the police said. they had consensual sex earlier that. morning. Well, did you test DNA? Like, is it the same DNA? How do you know they. had consensual sex? >> Were they the text messages? >> Or the text messages? Like, that seems. odd. Like, there's so many oddities and. inconsistencies here. And it's like I.

find it hard to believe that like Sherry. and OP's dad would be together, then. Sher has an affair. She's now with. Billy. I find it kind of confusing that. Sherry would then have sex with him. again. I don't think that would be the. case. And so I'm just very confused. I'm. like, was there any DNA tested? Like or. was it just nah, it looks like they had. sex and cut and dry. And even if they. did and Billy came home and then freaked. out and. >> because he discovered them. >> and then like sure but where's the.

tracking on Billy's phone? Where was he? >> These days all the cases your phone can. pinpoint you more than you think it can. >> I mean Google has your data down to the. foot of where you are basically every. minute of the day. Like it's it's. insane. Ways has background tracking on. you. >> Even your car. >> There's there's so many things. So, it's. like, is there any data? Was there. anything pulled? Or truly, was this just. cut and dry? And I think that's what's. frustrating. It's like, why not spend a.

little bit of resources, a little bit of. time just covering your bases? Just look. at all the options. I know A might seem. the most straightforward and plausible, but did we look at B and did we look at. C? And if it's not going to cost a lot. of resources and time and energy, why. not look? >> And I feel like a simple DNA test. I. feel like that's probably why that. there's these cases that happen where. it's like they just want it to be that. way because they're like there's. probably other cases that are more. complicated that they're dealing with. and so when they see something that's.

like oh this this is what it shows let's. just not go any further because it is a. lot of time and resources cuz like now. if now you have to try to prove that. this guy did it and that takes a lot of. I don't know I feel like that probably. happens which is sad to think but if. everything that OP said in this story is. true. There's no doubt in my mind. >> If you heard what OP said and you were. an investigator, would you not be like. chomping at the bit, working outside of.

work hours just to figure this thing. out? I feel like if I went into that. field of work, I was passionate about. it. I wouldn't be able to sleep until I. started looking at where was he, where's. the tracking, what is this just it it. would drive me insane. I do have. questions and I know we have. investigators, police that do listen. with their partners or listen. themselves. I've gotten messages on it. in the past when we've talked about a. story from a an officer like and his. pregnant wife. It was really bad, but I. know they're out there and I'd be.

curious to know if you just become I. don't know the burnout. I imagine with a. job like that the burnout is really. severe and I wonder if like your. confirmation bias where it's just like. you're biased, you've seen it. it's this. again. Like I wonder if it's just like. almost that where it's just like I've. seen this before. This is how it was. last time so this is what it probably is. this time and then it's just you know. maybe there aren't resources or. >> who knowsensitiz. no different than us to Reddit stories. You get a little desensitized to like. the poop and all the stuff. [laughter].

>> I also think that it's um OP was just. presented these things as a fact. And I. think that that's also why it was hard. for OP to come in and be able to present. all of what she knows because they were. like this is what happened as if it just. was the truth. And so I think for OP. it's like she kind of had to come at it. from behind because she's she's like. this doesn't feel right but everyone. around me is just telling me that this. is this is a fact. It's so tough, too. And it's like you went through.

this horrible situation of like your dad. potentially did do this and you're. grappling with that as well as the. grief. And it's just like. >> to be in that situation. I I. >> I can't even imagine. >> the war and the utter like shock and. turmoil your body and brain and. everything is in. >> Yeah, >> it's it's insane. But OP does get a lot. of comments. Okay, so the top comment on. the post with 1.6K up votes is this.

Your best bet here may be piggybacking. on the current situation with the newly. dead woman where $10,000 is missing. If. I was a grieving or angry relative of. the woman who died with organ failure, who pleaded for help with $10,000. missing, and you somehow made contact. with me saying, quote, "I'm so sorry to. bother you, but there's something fishy. about this man, and I want to tell you. more." Yeah, >> you bet your ass on your bottom dollar. that I would track you down immediately. to find out everything you could tell.

me. Ditto. Likewise, if I'm an. investigator and there is any kind of. actual investigation whatsoever going on. into Billy now, finally, in this new. situation, I'm an investigator and you. contact me saying you know something. about this man and his history with. women that you think might be relevant. to this case and you want to be helpful. Focus on helpful. [ __ ] yes. I'm gonna. call you. Piggybacking onto the current. case, use it to get law enforcement and. investigators to listen to the.

information about your situation and for. it to be reactivated or at least. significantly looked into based on that. Law enforcement and investigators listen. to other law enforcement and. investigators. If someone from. jurisdiction XYZ, where the poor organ. failure lady died, calls up the law. enforcement in your area and says, "Hey, I need to ask you some questions. Let's. look into this. They'll listen. I'm not. saying that will be the open sesame to. magically get all of your painful. questions finally answered and resolved.

Only that it might be your best bet at. this point in shoehorning your way back. into your dad's closed case. The. opportunity just fell right into your. lap and someone notified you of it. because this is what they want you to. do. >> Do it. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> OP responds, "You are exactly right.". Why did I get chills? Yeah, it's very. smart. >> I also It's very John Tucker must die. Like, get the gang together. Bring him down. >> Yeah, that's what's amazing about.

Reddit. >> I mean, there's another case, too. It's. on this woman named Kathleen Peterson. Very, very suspicious story. People. still fall on opposite sides of it. But. her husband was actually convicted of. killing her, pushing her down a. staircase. He was then let go by taking. an Alfred plea, which it's this weird. legal loophole. >> So, there's a whole story about it. It's. called the staircase, but her body was. like exumed. And so, if Billy has an ex.

that was found deceased at the bottom of. a staircase, like this could open up a. case and these people's bodies could be. exumed. >> Yeah, >> it happens. It happens. So, OP could. could get some answers. Um, a lot of. people just sharing their support of. like. >> upvote for intense story. Holy [ __ ]. something similar happened to a distant. family member. Nothing could be done. about it so far and it's been a few. years. I hope your look is better. OP. responds, thanks. It's definitely been a.

roller coaster. I go through phases. where I try to avoid thinking about it. entirely and then I go through phases. where I obsess over it. The unfortunate. thing about time passing with no answers. is that I seem to find out more. incriminating wild [ __ ] as the years go. by. I feel for OP so much. I just. imagining what OP has gone through with. the obsessive thoughts and then trying. to just convince herself that nope. Like. I just I don't When you don't know, it's. like you almost want that closure. So.

then she has to go back to just be like. nope that is what happened. And I'm sure. it's just this painful loop that she's. gone through for years. >> Yeah, it's insane. So we do get an edit. from OP. We actually get two edits here. edit. Some have asked how Billy would. have been able to financially gain from. any of these women considering he wasn't. married to any of them. I do not know. any intimate details of the woman who. was found at the bottom of the stairs. other than that she had recently come in. money and that he was the one who found. her. I don't know her name or how he.

would have benefited from her monetarily. dead or alive. However, even though. there is no current confirmation of. whether he did or didn't gain from her, she is still one of three women he is. found dead. In regards to Sherry, she. was never married and never had any. children, so there was no one to account. for her finances other than her. She was. also a little flighty, and I can see him. being able to easily manipulate her or. just flat out steal from her openly. without her noticing right away. In.

regards to the most recent dead. girlfriend, there is actual proof that. he stole at least $10,000 from her. leading up to her death. >> Yeah. >> And with that, you don't have to be. married to put someone on your bank. account. If he had access to the bank. account and it was just Sherry and then. she's gone, >> he's on the account. Like, we don't know. the dynamics. >> Con artist, so he'll figure out. something. And and even if money wasn't. involved, three people, three. girlfriends. Yeah, >> that's enough. >> It's not a coincidence.

>> No. Yeah. Update two. After the. recommendations of everyone, which by. the way, thank you all. I've taken a few. additional measures since yesterday. I. have filed for a Freedom of Information. Act regarding all documents that I'm. able to obtain. And I've also reached. out via email personally to the chief. and deputy chief of the police. department who handled the case. And. that. >> that's all we got. >> is all we have. How long ago was that. update?

>> We're never going to know, are we? >> No, wait. So, you guys, I just I just. found this. So, Bailey put the. screenshots in our doc for me, >> but these are not included at the. bottom. I'm like in OP's account right. now, and this was not included. So, no, I I do have a little bit more. So, OP. does share that they've been working. with police. There's some additional. information on Sherry. Sherry and her. brother both inherited just shy of a. million dollars each when their father. died. like again more more money more more.

probable cause. >> but OP does share they're a journalism. major um they're very descriptive I. think people were like this is fake and. it's like no I'm I'm a journalism major. op got a lot of comments about I work at. Netflix and things like that of people. wanting to make a dock out of this. OP has updated as of 10 months ago and. said hi it's me there were a few updates. but the most recent was about 3 years. ago, I took some time off. Today is. actually the 10th anniversary, and I.

think I might dive back into this at the. beginning of the year. >> Wow. >> Which will be 2027. >> Wow. >> It's go time. >> There are no updates since the last, but. I'm going to see what else I can dig. into. >> From what I see right now, I mean, there's there's a lot of comments that. OP's responding to people. >> Mhm. >> I'm not seeing any major updates. Okay. So, I will sleuth through them and if. anything else needs to be added in, I'll.

record it. I'll pop it into this episode. >> and then give me a call and then Yeah. >> Tell me when I get home. >> Yeah. >> A lot of people questioning the time of. death. The coroner and detective. determined by the scene that they died. at different times. >> Yeah. >> Which again is really interesting. I. think the one thing that stood out to me. is the gun that was used was Sherry's. >> How did Opie's dad even know Sherry had. that gun? Well, that's the thing, too. It like normally they're in a safe. Maybe not, but. >> they're concealed, right? Like they're.

put somewhere where an intruder wouldn't. be like, "Oh, there's the gun right on. the kitchen counter.". >> Right. Right. >> So, it's like. >> So, it's like even if it was between. those two, that my first thought was. that like Sherry brought it out first. and then they were struggling to, you. know, like like that was when before we. had all the extra contacts. I was like, "Well, >> yeah. >> Why is it her gun? How did he know how. to find it? like where did he Yeah. And. OP does answer questions about like. gunshot residue where they'll test the. person's hand. They say my state does.

not test for it in the event of a. suicide. In this case especially, the. gun was literally in my dad's hand. Again, there was no gunshot residue to. be like, was he the one that actually. fired or was it just placed there? I'm. not sure if even scientifically if you. fire a gun and then place it in. someone's hand if there's still trace. amounts like that would then register. Again, no mention of DNA. >> You still wouldn't know where it was. >> Well, and even if he did know where it. was, why would he run over to her place. >> without and grab her? Yeah, it's that's.

what's weird to me. It's like you're. planning to do this. >> typically. I mean, something like this. seems like you'd plan. Why wouldn't you. ensure you had a weapon and bring your. own? Even if he didn't plan it though, it's like why was it out? >> You know, like that's how you find it. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, okay, they. had consensual sex, but then it turned. into that and he just casually found her. gun in her new house. It's It's fishy. It's It's definitely fishy. OP is.

getting bombarded with, "I work for. Dine. I work for 2020." OP says here in. like in regards to people questioning. me, I'm just a 33year-old woman from the. Midwest, like looking for answers about. what happened. I I wouldn't make this. up. Like, what do I have to gain from. this? And honestly, the docs, like if. you get to a point where people aren't. listening to you and you're hitting. another dead end, like it's going to. close forever, I would go to the. Netflix. I would go to the different. docks because. >> that opens Look at the firestorm that.

happens when these docks hit. >> and everyone's talking about it. >> That gets some [ __ ] moving, >> especially when it's that convincing. >> True. >> It It could really put pressure to open. the case again. I mean, I look at Crime. Junkie and what Ashley and Brit have. been able to do. They had a case they. highlighted on their live show and were. like, "Hey, please reach out to this. township." So, they reopen this case and. I think because of that pressure, the.

case was reopened. I mean, it's it's. kind of twofold. Like, sometimes Reddit. and like the internet sleuths can cause. harm. There's a case with the Boston. bombings where Reddit went a little too. hard on someone they thought was the. person involved. They were not. And that. person did take their own life because. of it. >> But that's why you just need to be so. careful with how you engage with this. and what you share and what content you. make. And.

>> I hope OP gets answers. I am going to. reach out and just. >> OP could use some other resources and I. hope this story gets more traction. And. I I know she's very vague and doesn't. share, but maybe if it was more public, maybe there could be pressure put on for. a proper investigation. It just feels. like it makes way too much sense to not. pursue. At least investigate further. And you know, maybe the science now. because of not having an investigation.

then isn't even going to help. like is. there going to be any DNA evidence still. this many years later after you know. they've been buried? Like we don't know. but at least you could give it a shot. I. also just think for tracking this person. like now this person should be on a. watch list. >> Yeah. I mean it has been over 10 years. like I I would be curious. >> where's Billy at now? It's like even if.

they don't reopen the case and you know. clear the name if they can catch that. that's what this person is doing. it clears the name on its own. >> That's true. >> Right. And like unfortunately the dad is. gone. He's not in jail. So it's like it. really is not it's about clearing the. name. >> Well and the closure. >> and getting answers and. >> closure is invaluable. Like you're going. to wonder forever. >> It'll be ups and downs forever with. this. And at least if you try, whichever.

way it goes, you'll either I mean, you'll just know. And that's closure. regardless of of the outcome. >> Yeah. And I and I hope that OP does find. closure. And if OP, if you're listening. to this, I believe you. >> I know. I would love to see a formal. investigation done. And then there's no. doubt. I mean, hopefully answers would. come from it at least. >> Yeah. Okay, let's get into the paranormal.

>> Yes. Yes. This is why what I came for. This is why I put on the costume. >> I don't know if I can handle How bad is. it? >> We're going to start off a little light. Okay. >> Oh god. >> Ease into it and then it's like ease. into it. >> Just crazy. >> So, we're going to start with an article. from Buzzfeed because BuzzFeed loves to. be on Reddit and they they did some of. the dirty work for me. >> Some Buzzfeed stuff. [laughter] So, this. is a Buzzfeed article from Andy Golder. It is titled, "People are sharing the.

creepiest, most unexplainable things. that happened to them, and I'm never. sleeping again.". >> Oh, no. Come on, Buzzfeed. I need my. sleep. >> Over the years, Reddit users have shared. some incredibly spooky stories of. unexplained things that happened to. them. Here are some of the best and. scariest of those Reddit stories. The. mysterious baby prince. You know, on. cold days inside your car, you can. breathe on the window and draw on the. glass. I got in my car and as I look at.

the windshield, I see a few small baby. hands. I thought it was strange. Someone. would let a baby play on my car's. windshield. I had an urge to touch the. baby prints, and as I touched it, I. wiped away the handprints. The. handprints were made from inside of my. locked car. >> Yeah. Ooh. Whoa. That's coming from user Scooby. Puff. >> Let's go, Scooby Puff. >> This next one, the doppelganger. I was.

probably about 16 or 17 and had gotten. home from high school. My brother was in. the kitchen making a ruckus. So, I. started that way. As I passed by his. bedroom, I saw my mom in there sitting. on his bed with the lights off, facing. away from me and towards the wall. I. stopped and stood in the doorway and. asked if she was okay. and what she was. doing. She said really slowly, "Just. sitting, come here. I need to talk to. you." I took about a half step into the.

room when I heard my mom yelling for me. in the kitchen. And then I saw her. setting the table. I looked back to the. bedroom and there was nothing there. I. don't think I ever went back into that. room by myself again, even 10 years. later. Because a lot of times you can be. like, "Oh, I saw something.". But then when that something speaks to. you and you interact with that. something, >> do you guys know anyone personally who. has a story like this.

>> this vividangan? >> I mean I Yeah. Like I heard I saw but I. didn't actually see the person. Everything I saw was like from under the. crack of the door and I was hearing. >> I guess you didn't talk. >> I didn't talk to them like still. But. we've had listeners cuz we do spooky on. Father Knows Something too. And we have. had listeners who talk about the the. concept of a mimic. And we have a couple. stories about mimics that we're going to. get into. And it is a very I would say.

common occurrence if you do have a. serious paranormal encounter is a mimic. like this. I don't even know that word. Am I supposed to know that word? >> No, we'll get into it. You'll learn. Did. you not get chills when she was looking. away sitting in the dark? >> I mean that in itself. >> because how Yeah. Like what did the face. look like? The back of her head. >> just just sitting and then you you would. recognize the voice too. That's what's. crazy about it. >> Same voice. >> I just want them all to be little. Caspers. [laughter].

>> Okay, moving on to this one. This is. titled The Time Blip. Driving from. Northern California to Southern. California through the middle of the. night about a decade ago. I was tired. and the scenery along the freeway. through the central valley isn't very. interesting. I remember passing an old. silo, looking at my car clock and it was. 3:17 in the morning. Drove some more, past a power line, and it was 3:21. I. blinked, shuffled in my seat, and passed. the same old silo, and it was back to.

3:17. I was in disbelief. I just stared. at my clock for a few moments. I drove a. little more past the same power line, 3:21. I don't know why or how, but I. went backwards about 4 minutes. Never. experienced anything similar or since. >> See, what's weird about that? I would. feel like I'm 4 minutes behind. Like. when you're on um like a live TV and you.

accidentally get behind, you feel like. you're kind of missing out. I would feel. that way the rest of my life, but boy. would I love to experience that. >> Oh, >> that's a glitch in the matrix. Like that. is a very common. Is there anything else. additional to that or was just the. clock? >> Just just the clock. And I mean passing. the scenery. It's like it's like you. literally. >> was it in your head? Did you imagine the. future or was there truly a glitch in. the matrix and you like drove through a. portal and then it started you back? >> Have you heard about the concept of. glitch in the matrix? We've talked about.

this, right? M. So, this is one that's. actually crazy. It's got a whole. subreddit for it, too. And on the. subreddit, Glitch in the Matrix, I. witness events that cannot be explained. with critical thinking. And so, one. video that I've seen is this guy is. driving and a bird shits on his window. >> and he's like, "Oh my god, bird shit.". And he activates his windshield wipers. and they're going, but it doesn't clean. the bird [ __ ] He takes a napkin from.

inside his car and wipes the bird [ __ ]. from inside his car. Explain that. That's so weird. There's a recent video I just saw from a. tennis match where this guy hits the. ball and if you watch the slow-mo video, it looks like the ball goes through the. net, but either the camera isn't. recording fast enough to catch it or it. literally looks like it hits the net and. then appears on the other side of the.

net. >> I saw that. >> glitch in the matrix or just slow. camera. >> I mean, even in actual physics, explain. entangled particles. Two particles. can be billions of light years apart and. when a force is acted upon one of them, let's say it's on Earth, >> you push the particle, the one that is. inconceivably far away, will feel the. same force. It will react the exact same. way. They are connected instantaneously.

across unimaginable distances. speed of. light looks like it's slower than um a. sloth compared to how I mean it's. instant. >> I'm so glad that you started that you. started talking because as you were. talking about this Morgan like obviously. we're talking about scary stuff but it. brought me back to that conversation we. had in your guys' kitchen. remember when. we were talking about space and then I. was also talking about these videos I. saw of people discussing their DMT.

experiences and it's like I just find it. really fascinating because there's so. many things that we don't know. >> you know like 100 years ago. >> thousand years ago the amount of things. that humans knew compared to now what. are we going to learn inund years and a. thousand years so I find stuff like this. very fascinating these glitches. >> yes. >> it's so insane this next This one also. kind of feels like a glitch in the. Matrix and again feels very like Final. Destination at the same time. So.

Buzzfeed titled it the person who got a. redo. I died. I saw it. I lived it. Either it was another world with a. version of me that died. I saw. Or I'm. going crazy. But I died. We had a pep. rally in school and after it was. finished we had to go back to class. Well, my friend and I were not into. that, so we wanted to go across the. street to Sonic. Well, I remember. walking with him and he dropped. something, so I went across the street. first. I just saw a red Tahoe heading.

right for me and I got hit. I remember. everything. I remember gasping for air. I remember waking up and sleeping again. Then nothing. All of a sudden, I was. back in the stadium again. and the exact. same words came out of the principal's. mouth. My friend wanted to go get Sonic, but I was freaking out. I thought it had. to be a dream, so I went with him just. to see what would happen. He dropped his.

stuff again, and I waited. To my horror, that same red Tahoe showed up. I told. him that I'm going back to school. I. ain't dying again. I can still see the. other version of me on that street just. messed up, not even moving. >> That's what is that? >> I was hoping they would go and test it. >> Like, is that a psychic premonition? >> Right. >> Like, what is that? >> Yeah. Huh? >> Like, have you ever had a deja vu so.

real that you're in it and you're like, I have been here. Absolutely been here. And that's like a déja vu, but it's like. >> this one's like intensely specific. though. >> Yeah. >> Like to the, you know, to the second. A. lot of deja vu is kind of like, oh, this. feels familiar. I've been here before. But not like that same car, >> that same I drop my stuff. Like it's. like literally rewind, press play. >> Yeah, >> that is crazy. I would love to. experience that without getting hit by.

the car and dying. >> But just like I want the 321 to 317. thing. There's actually a lot of studies. on the concept of dja vu. >> And then dreams. I think dreams are also. very closely connected to that. I had. very very vivid dreams last night. That. easily could have been my exact real. life right now. >> I just saw a video about a woman who. woke up from a coma and while she was in. her coma like lived a whole another life. and had kids. >> Yeah. And for years.

>> there was another coma victim that woke. up and she goes, "Please God, don't play. music for for people in comas." She. goes, "I heard the same damn song on. repeat every day. I heard all that. music.". >> I don't know how true that is. And it's. one person's experience. I know reading. can be very good, but. >> well, mix up the playlist. You know what. I'm saying? Like, you know. >> Huh. [laughter]. >> That's crazy. >> It goes back to what you were saying. I. feel like. >> we're justing bing bing bong. >> No, I know. I'm just thinking about the fact of.

being in a coma and being like I [ __ ]. hate this song. Turn the song. >> No more Taylor Swift. >> Nope. Wouldn't say that. [laughter]. >> No, but like genuinely like like. somebody being like I'm trying to live. my best. Like I'm trying I'm thinking. about Stranger Things honestly in a way. where you keep hear like they're in a. whole new world but they're hearing this. song. It just won't stop. And that kind. of blew my mind just now. There is. another coma story I saw where this guy. woke up and he goes, "I had a itch on my. foot for a month.".

>> No. No. >> Yeah. Now I'm itching my foot. Like. brutal. >> That's probably Yeah, that's pretty bad. >> I didn't I thought I thought people woke. up from comas and were like, "What. happened?" I didn't know that they had. That's. >> No, you've been tortured. >> Wow. And also, I wonder too if it was like he. had an itch on his foot just for like 30. seconds before waking up, but like it. felt like a month eternity. Yeah. >> I wonder how time passes in a coma.

>> in some ways. Does a coma connect you? >> Yeah. I don't think it's as one to one. as what. >> does a coma connect you with your dream. world and your deja vu world? Are those. all separate worlds? Like you said, there's so much we have to learn. >> Whatever it is. >> So cool. >> It fascinates me so much. which I just I. hope I'm alive long enough to. >> same or that we can experience it in the. afterlife and see all of it. >> Yeah. In a more factual way where it's. not just, you know, people on the other. side of the camera being like, "Oh my.

gosh, it's all woo woo.". >> I don't think it is. I think the people. who don't like the woo woo probably left. by [laughter] now. >> Yeah, true. >> They're gone. >> True. >> Do you guys know about astral. projection? >> I don't think so. Elmo. I think we've. talked about this before, right? >> It does sound familiar. So astral. projection is an intentual outof body. experience OBBE where a person's. conscious or subtle astral body. separates from the physical body to. travel through a non-physical realm. known as the astral plane. So there's.

people that like there's literally. subreddits on it and they teach. themselves how to do this. I don't know. if they unlock it via drugs. >> Go to astral projection subreddit. You'll find out. >> Austin does it all. >> Don't do drugs. He does it all the time. >> What? >> Yeah. It's what's led to a lot of his. like therapy and stuff. He will. >> talk to him about this. >> He'll be like, "Yep, I walked away and. watched myself sitting in the chair. mixing or working on the song.

>> and then I walked back into my body and. I was there doing the work." But he's. stepped he's he's also like floated. above himself and watched himself. sleeping or watched himself watching TV. Yeah. 100% separation. Oh my god. I need. >> very vivid. >> And he's not a big wooower. So that is. actually that makes me 100% a believer. in astral projection cuz Austin, if you. guys met Austin, he's very analytical. >> He's just so. >> I don't know, just matter of fact,

>> he wouldn't invite that. Like it freaks. him the [ __ ] out. He would not invite. that. He would not want that. He would. choose to never have experienced that. cuz it's really. >> screwed with him. >> Yeah. So, this person shares an astral. projection story. This happened around. 1991. It's the middle of the night. I'm. standing in my sister's living room, and. it must be a full moon because even. though it's around 1:00 a.m. and the. lights are off, I can see clearly. There's a mixing bowl with popcorn. kernels in the bottom on the floor in.

front of the TV and some rental VHS in a. pile nearby. I hear a noise and turn. around to see my sisters, normally very. friendly Labrador retriever looking like. Kujo, fangs beared, snarling, hackles. raised. Suddenly, there's a bright flash. of light and I wake up like I hit the. bed from a great height. I think that. was a weird dream. Eventually, I fall. back to sleep, and in the morning, I. call my sister, planning to tell her the.

story, but she preempts me by telling me. about the weird thing that happened in. the night. Wo, >> that's wild. >> They woke up to the sound of the dog. snarling at about 1:00 a.m. Her husband. thought there was a prowler in the. house, got a gun, and went to find the. dog. She was standing in the living. room, snarling at the middle of the. room. He couldn't see anyone, so he. flipped on the light. No one was there. The dog instantly stopped snarling and.

walked back to her bed like nothing had. happened. >> That's the flash of light. >> He checked the property and then went. back to bed. >> We talked a bit and I found out that. they watched some rental movies and of. course we had popcorn. Why? >> So he asked his sister, "Did you guys. happen to have popcorn?". >> Wow. >> Cuz he saw the VHS's on the ground and. then the bowl. >> Yeah. with like popcorn kernels. So he. astral projected into his sister's. living room. This is.

>> They weren't there. >> Oh, they astral projected there. >> I thought they were like in the room. right next door. >> No, he was at his own house. >> Yeah. >> To see the dog. >> Mhm. >> And then the flash of light. >> Well, then he's like, "My sister's. normally friendly dog looking like. Kujo.". >> That's insane. Yeah, cuz you're probably. a floaty or. >> dogs, man. Dogs are tapped in. They are. so tapped in. >> Dogs are tapped. I think all animals. >> animals are tapped in.

>> Wait, did you guys see the video. recently about the the ghost and the. horse? >> Oh my god. We're just going to detour. real quick here. >> Like imagine I keep staring at the owl. Like imagine owls with those big eyes. and you know they're smart. >> Yeah. >> What the [ __ ] do they see? >> Everything. >> I mean how could you miss anything with. those eyes? It's so interesting because. I when I look at this stuff and I hear. this stuff, there's a lot of things that. I will think is garbage or that I think.

can be explained, but there is a lot. that I genuinely think has truth to it. And there's something that we just. haven't figured out yet. We haven't. tapped into yet. And so I just genuinely. find this stuff fascinating. >> Fascinating. And even if like you're a. skeptic, I think it's like then it's. like, well, scientifically, how did this. happen? >> Yeah. >> How did two people have the same. experience in real life? Their dog was. snarling. And this person had a even if.

you say it's a dream, cuz we know dreams. are real. They had a dream about that. same experience. >> How are they tapped that in? >> There's so much physically and in. physics and we just cannot explain. And. some of our biggest like physics have. been proven wrong recently. Like a lot. of stuff is actively changing in the. scientific community. So again, it's. like we might not just be there yet. >> The laws we know for the I'll call it. the big stuff work with just the big.

stuff, >> but they do not work with the small. stuff. I'm being very general. >> They don't work. We don't have a. universal law of physics because what we. know about here and here and try to. explain it, they completely refute each. other, >> it does not work. >> So, >> so. >> I mean there's so much and that's also. what what I love about science. >> is more about what we don't know than. what we do know because it just opens.

your mind and just the same way you're. fascinated. I fall asleep just being. fascinated and just bewildered about all. these different things that we can't. explain. Yes, it drives me crazy, but I. also love it. >> I don't know what I believe in with. space anymore. And like are we in a. Truman show and like we got plopped here. by a more superior being as penants or. punishment. >> or just like an ant farm experiment. >> But I literally I just saw this and it. was coming from I thought a scientific.

source. Didn't dig that deep. It could. be [ __ ] Don't quote me. Don't take. this at anything other than me, Gavin. But it was some recent discovery thanks. to the new telescope that we are so in. our own bubble. Like there's no other. major thing that we could ever get to. Like we are so locked in our own galaxy. And there's. >> obviously way more stuff out there, but. we will never get out of where we are.

We will never find or discover any other. being unless they come find us. >> or unless we disco figure out warp drive. then tech like. >> which they speculate like we're we're. not even close or wormholes. >> We're like yeah we're close regenerate. uh human organs from axelottals way. before that. >> That's what I'm saying. Like we're just. we're so far off scientifically from. even having space vehicles that can. travel at a rate to get us like. >> even light speed is too slow. It's just. >> we're just not there.

If you were a super advanced species, what would be a form of entertainment? Well, let's start a new planet here in. the life form. We'll start a new planet. here. And they experience maybe time. much more slowly so they can, you know, over what's been billions of years for. us. Maybe it's just a few years for. them. And they're like, "Oh, look at how. that species has evolved. They actually. traveled to their nearest celestial. body, the moon. Oh, and this species is. developing much slower, much faster.". And you do an experiment to see how life. evolves. It's almost feeling like. divergent where it's like, have they.

learned from their lesson yet? >> Will they not kill their planet this. time? >> But to learn more about the evolution. >> of life, you would study, you would. start other experiments. That's what. science is. So it'd be like a very. advanced species doing science and we. could just be blinded by this veil of. whatever. ability. >> because they're so much more advanced in. different dimensions that they could. >> I wish I could have a time portal to a.

100,000 years from now. I think about. this like I. >> I love that. >> Well, I think I told you guys this, but. my dad when I was younger, I asked him I. was just I remember so vividly. I'm in. the backseat of his car and I was like, "Dad, does it make you sad that you're. not going to live forever?" Like little. kid questions. And my dad was like, "No, I'm okay with the normal human. lifespan." And I was like, "Oh." And. then he goes, "But honestly, I would. just really, really, really love to know. all of the future discoveries." And that.

has become like a core part of my. personality. I think about all the time. It's why I like a lot of people watch. dystopians and they're like, "Oh, it's. just a bunch of garbage." And I'm like, "No, this this is a potential that we. don't know yet." Like we don't know what. the future is. And that to me makes. dystopian movies so fascinating because. they're just displaying a bunch of. possibilities that we won't get to. unfortunately. >> No, that's true. >> I just I have to cap it off. >> Unfortunately, depending on the the. novel.

>> movie. >> I just have to cap it off with the fact. that I tell a lot of people I will be. pissed when I die. Not because my life. is over, but because of how much I won't. be able to experience in in the. discoveries, in how far humans make it, in are their contact with other life. All of the above. >> That's why I'll be pissed. >> Yeah. >> Like I'm going to die really pissed. [laughter]. >> Let's get back to the ghost here. So, this is the horse video I was talking. about.

>> So, it's a horse in like a stall, a. metal like turnout corral. And you see this little It looks like a. little girl here. >> Mhm. >> But there's no little girl there. I. mean, it's late. So, it's just a little ghost girl trying. to visit a pony. >> How do you not know that this is like. edited or AI or. >> these days? You don't. That's why crimes.

are really tricky now, too, because. >> sucks. >> It's messy. It's really It's really. messy. But let's just believe there was. a little ghost girl saying hi to a horse. because I like that. >> it's a little pony. >> Weren't you Are you like a I thought you. were not I thought you were a hardcore. non- ghost believer. >> The boys evolving. >> Whoa. Okay. Well, that's that's the. thing too for me. It's like I don't know. that I believe in like ghosts the way. that people talk about them, but the. >> this energy in our world and an energy.

that's not quite put into a body like. that that concept to me existing does. not seem far-fetched at all. >> No. The more you actually dive into. science, the more you realize how much. is unknown and the more everything that. you thought was, "Oh, that doesn't work. scientifically feels that much more. plausible and that much more real." It's. very interesting. >> Yeah. >> Speaking of ghosts, let's get into this. one. >> So, this next one from Buzzfeed is.

called the attic ghost. I used to live. in a house that was built on old. farmland. I slept in a bedroom that had. no door except for the door leading up. to the attic, which had a little sliding. lock on it. Every single night, I'd. close the door and lock it. The attic. frequently had birds and such get into. it, and I didn't feel like having them. fly out, except every single morning, it. would be unlocked and slightly a jar. During the night, I'd wake up and have. sleep paralysis. It was pretty frequent,

and I got used to it. During said sleep. paralysis, a figure would open up the. closet and slip out, all black, sort of. shadowy, and wearing what I can only. describe as a farmer's hat. It would. stare at me for a moment, just stare. Sometimes it would take a step over. before turning and walking out the. entrance to my bedroom, which lacked a. door. But I had set up some beads. They. would knock together. I can still hear.

them to this day. I had always been told. that I had an overactive imagination. I. never spoke of it to my parents or. family since they'd probably make fun of. it. One summer, my cousin came to visit. She took over my room since my family. thought she deserved a larger room for. whatever reason. She came down for. breakfast in the morning, white as a. sheet, and said I could have my room. back. When my mom asked why, she told. her she had sleep paralysis and saw.

basically what I had seen. I had never. spoken to her of this. Years later, once. we had moved out of the house, my mother. told me something. Her bedroom was on. the same hallway as mine, and she always. slept with the door open. She told me. some nights that she would wake up just. to see a figure pass by the doorway. quickly. I don't really know if it was a. shared delusion or what, but it still. scares me a bit to this day.

>> I hate stuff like this. >> It feels pretty random to be a shared. delusion. >> I mean, everyone's seen the farmer's. ghost, little straw hat on his head. Everyone's seen the same sleep paralysis. farmer. >> Not me. >> I decided to just believe this one's not. true cuz it's too scary for [laughter]. me. >> Well, so do you think the ghost. >> puts you in sleep paralysis? Is that is. that the deal? That's how it works. >> Well, there's like a there's a long. history of it, too. I remember something. where they would um in one culture it.

was something about a witch. So, they. would always say that it was a witch. that was sitting on their chest and they. would all a lot of them would describe. like a similar image as well, too. So, this one I personally like to think it's. the brain doing something really weird. rather than believe that that's going on. cuz that's also scares the [ __ ] out of. me. [laughter]. >> I I feel that a lot of the ghost things. or paranormal things that happen in the. middle of the night. >> are a little more like up in the air.

just for the pure fact that dreams to me. feel so realistic sometimes and I. honestly could not tell the difference. sometimes. That makes it a little bit. like, okay, I can see the brain doing. that, especially with what your brain. actually physically does in the middle. of the night as you sleep. >> True. I live a whole other life over. there, [laughter]. >> right? No, I know. So, it's like with. your grandma, seeing the guy up in the. field during the daytime, that to me. feels a little more like, okay, you're.

awake, you're aware, you've been up, you. pinch yourself, you're not sleeping, right? >> And you have that direct experience like. the guy driving the car. Now, did the. guy driving in the car fall asleep at. the wheel, as scary as that is, and just. jolt awake? And that was a quick dream. >> It's the night time, the sleepy. That's. what gets a little bit like a. >> little dicey. >> Mhm. Okay. >> Until it happens to you, I guess. >> I know. Well, this next one is middle of. the day, not at night. >> Okay. >> It's titled The Unwanted Music. When I.

was in high school, I would always be. the first to arrive home out of my. family, having the entire house to. myself. My bedroom was upstairs. And one. day when I got home from school, I. placed my bag away and started up the. stairs. About halfway, I stopped because. I thought I heard something coming from. upstairs. So I stayed quiet and I. listened. I heard a very slow rendition. of the melody from Ring Around the. Rosie. It was crystal clear coming from. my bedroom. I was 100% sure I was the.

only one home and I had absolutely no. device that could be playing music. unprompted, especially Ring Around the. Rosie. I froze in fear and listened for. about 15 seconds to make sure I was. really hearing it, which I was. I just. turned back down the stairs and waited. around in the living room for my family. to get home before I went back upstairs. I went in my room a few hours later and. there was nothing out of the ordinary.

ring around the rosy. >> Why does it have to be aesthet. Yeah. No, I do the same thing with that. word. It's it's so weird. >> I'm so annoyed with pronouncing things. differently. I said mountains. I didn't say melons. out of moleh hills. I said mountains out. of mole hills. You know, I've never even.

heard that phrase before. So, it I just. was like, you're just talking and then. seeing the comments. But I said. mountains. Bailey listened. Bailey said. I said mountains. I think I just. slurred. >> Yeah. >> Mountains. >> Yeah. Melons. >> Mountains. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Yeah. No. Uh. >> it's a crazy song. No, it it it is kind. of a crazy song. And so the fact that. it's was made into this cute children's.

story, I've always thought that was. weird. >> But it's the horror thing, right? It's. always the slow music box. >> I know. Melody, slowed down. >> Always. >> Why do they make kids creepy? You know. >> what? >> Because it's it's not kids. It's just. like it's the song that's so sweet and. lullabi. When you slow it down and play. it on the right instrument, it just is. creepy because it's supposed to be sweet. and innocent. But then when you make it.

this dark sounding thing, >> but there's so many movies that have the. kid that have like the little kids, the. red rum and and it's like why is why cuz. kids are so innocent and they're more. perceptive. But there is some science to. the music stuff because there is a. certain beats per minute and like hurts. that is very soothing and like we vibe. with and if you go into a range that is. not good it does trigger like a stress. response in your body.

>> Justin's like I know more about this. Talk about it. >> No, >> give it a go. >> You Yes. Sure. There's certain minor. keys that like if someone like with the. intro, we change some of the chords from. being major to minor and it instantly. has this darker. >> more, you know, mysterious vibe simply. just changing chords. >> I like So yeah, >> I like that type of stuff, too. Like I. think it's I I get really like pumped. with Halloween music.

>> Yeah. I actually have this um playlist. on Spotify. It's Dangerous Woman and. it's like all of those more eerie, slowed down, mysterious, darker type of. >> Yeah. >> songs. [clears throat]. >> I mean, you could do it to a Taylor. Swift song, the happy major sounding. song. You could change it and slow it. down and play it like on a creepy music. box. I mean, you hear it really well. when people will take a song and make it. for a trailer and it's like this normal. song and then all of a sudden it's. dramatic and dark.

>> Wait, can we do that? Can we do that? Can we like for Halloween just like do a. song like that? It could be a Taylor. Swift. That would be a really fun. project. >> Um, there is a lot of science on this. The brain has a natural tendency to. synchronize its electrical oscillation. patterns with external rhythmic or. acoustic frequencies. They will use this. as a viro acoustic therapy to shift the. nervous system towards relaxation. So. depending on the frequency like this is. it is actually a studied science like. pseudocience.

>> Yeah. >> So with music again slowing it down. >> making it creepy pitch like it it does. affect us. >> for sure. >> I have an unbelievable video related to. that that we should link. >> Okay. just in the description. It It'll. I'll send it to both of you. It's. >> It'll be there. >> Okay, this next one we're back on actual. Reddit. We're pulling from r/ Paranormal. now. >> It's titled Boyfriend and I just had an. encounter with a mimic. And Lauren, you.

were curious. >> I was going to say I've yet to know what. that means. >> I'm just picturing a mime. So, a. paranormal mimic is a deceptive. supernatural entity or spirit that. copies the voices, sounds, or physical. appearance of real people to trick and. lure unsuspecting victims. A lot of. different cultures have mimics. They. will imitate parents, grandparents, loved ones, draw children out, draw. people out. And I've seen a girl who.

posted a video where she was in her barn. taking care of her animals and she was. just like recording her barn and all of. a sudden she pans the camera to a. version of her. Like it's literally her. body turns around standing and staring. at a stall and she literally pans the. camera, accidentally hits it and goes, "Oh no." And just runs out cuz she goes, "It's a mimic. It's me. They're trying. to they're trying to body snatch or do. something." So there's all this like in.

every culture basically. >> the mimics I don't know who they are but. there's a lot of lore surrounding. mimics. >> So like the mom on the bed facing the. other way. >> Mimic. Mimic. >> That's why she said come here. >> Yeah. What the fudgeicles? I hate that. so much. So this one again is titled. Boyfriend and I just had an encounter. with a mimic. This happened about 20. minutes ago. My boyfriend, 29, and I, 29, had just finished having sex. He. asked if I could go grab us a drink. So,

I left the room and into the kitchen I. went. In the kitchen, I grab a glass to. start preparing our beverage. And when I. turned to face the counter, I then see. my boyfriend from the corner of my eye. He was looking confused and almost. concerned, asking me what was going on. This, in turn, made me confused. I told. him nothing was going on and that I was. just about to grab some ice for our. drink. Quote, "Oh, I thought I heard you. say something." Then back down the hall.

he went. Shrugging it off, I finished. pouring our drink and just before I. turned the corner down the hall, I. heard, "Hello.". >> In my voice, I immediately knew it was a mimic. Making my way down the hall, I sit next. to my boyfriend, handing him the glass, and I asked him what exactly he heard. He told me he heard me yell, "Hey." I. explained to him that I heard myself, too. But the voice said, "Hello.". I don't like that. He took a sip of his.

drink, shaking his head. We're not going. to talk about it. I'm not really scared. or worried. It was eerie hearing my. voice from where I was standing. seemingly come from the basement. But. this isn't my first encounter with a. mimic. Just thought I'd share since this. quite literally just happened. What? Why. are they after you? I know. What do you. got that they want? So, we did ask two. hot takes listeners for some of their.

own personal writeins. >> Oh, yay. >> And Flaky Initiative 1920 submitted. their own story that feels eerily. similar. Hi, I recently found your. podcast and I love it. I've seen some of. your spooky season episodes and I'm. really excited to share my experience. I. also have video proof of one incident. and I will end this story with a cute. pallet cleanser. So, I 28 female grew up. with my dad at his house which has. always been haunted. I've experienced.

things falling off of shelves, hearing. footsteps and whatnot, but some things. really stuck with me. One thing I got. told was when I was really young, my mom. had put me and my brother to bed and was. downstairs watching TV. She heard small. footsteps slowly walking down the. stairs. She said it sounded just like. when we knew we shouldn't be awake and. tried not to make too much noise when we. were trying to walk down the stairs. She. heard my voice whisper, "Mom, mom." And.

she answered like she always did. But. then my voice didn't say anything else. She heard it loud and clear and actually. got worried when I didn't answer. anymore. She went up to check on us to. see if anything was wrong, but both of. us were fast asleep. To this day, she. has no idea what it was, but she felt. really uneasy about it because it was so. clear, like I was right there calling. her. I had a similar experience when I. was a little older. I had just gotten.

home from school and was watching TV and. had a snack. I heard the front door. open, close, and then I heard my dad's. voice say, "I'm home." Like he always. said when he got home from work. I. answered, "Hi," and went back to. watching TV and eating my food. This was. around 2:00 p.m., which is normally too. early for my dad to come home, but I. figured he just left work early that. day. After a while, I realized I hadn't. heard from him since he got home, so I. went through the house to look for him. He wasn't there. I called him and asked.

where he went and he told me he's still. at work. I told him, quote, "But you. just came home a few minutes ago." He. said, "He has been at work the whole. time." I didn't think much about it and. went back to the couch. But just as my. mom heard my voice, I heard the door and. my dad so loud and clear. There's no. doubt about it. >> This is uh this is one side of the stuff. that I don't care to experience.

I'm [laughter] more like I like the. glitch in the Matrix. I like the time. slip. >> I I mean, I'm just imagining walking. into the house tonight and I hear you or. I I don't know. I'm just picturing all. the different scenarios. and then I see you like, "Oh, I'm going. to go out and say good night to the. horses or something." And then I walk to. the bedroom and you're laying there and. it's just like this is just one side of. it I don't care to experience. >> Now that we have opened up this area of.

things that I do like talking about now. that I'm hearing these stories through a. different lens because we just talked. about this stuff that I do like to talk. about. Now I'm looking at it thinking, well well what if it's there's just so. much energy in this one area that that. that the house is remember the area is. remembering things. So maybe it's. mimicking this because there's a memory. that was so vivid because there's so. much energy right there that the voice.

is replaying not because it's like a. mimic or someone trying to steal. somebody but because it just is. remembering something that did once. happen. >> I know. And. >> it makes it a little less scary for me. >> Well, and I think there's a lot of. stories you hear about like places the. grounds. Yeah. an area remember events. that happened there. >> Mhm. >> Typically not happy or good ones. >> But that is an interesting thought about. energy. >> My my brain also went to like dja vu.

Was it just a dja vu where you you're. like, "Oh, I'm at home." And like. >> you're excited for your dad to come home. and all of a sudden like your. imagination like takes over a detour and. you had like a diverse thought and it's. like dad walks in, door shut. Hi, I'm. home. Like was it literally in your. head? >> Is it weird to say that? That is almost. scarier that your brain could shift and. do two things at once. >> Yeah. That it could. >> definitely possible. >> But those ones like these [laughter]. >> So true sure. Definitely possible.

>> But these examples aren't so much it. doesn't feel like they're trying to reel. someone in. Whereas the voice from the. basement or vividly mom sitting on the. bed facing away saying come here feels. much more like I'm trying to do. something. Whereas the I'm home and then. nothing else happens. It's like, well, okay, then what's the actual. >> endame there? Like, what's happening? >> Yeah. I wonder if there's any stories, and I would have to do a little digging. to find these probably. But I do wonder.

if anyone has followed a mimic or. engaged with a mimic. >> We never know because they actually just. >> Yeah, they take them over. What do you. mean? >> Gone. >> Gone. The body body snatched swapped. >> freaky Friday. But like with a ghost, so. you become a mimic, I guess. >> But. >> I don't know. I I don't know. Did they. follow the mimic and never survive to. tell the tale on Reddit to us? Like.

my brain is firing right now. >> I need to find the video of the girl who. saw herself in the barn. >> Yeah, it's it's jarring when you see it. Oh, she actually she has a video. Yeah, she posted it. >> You see her? I wish people didn't post. things just to mess with people because. I would really like to know if this is. true or not. >> It was preAI. >> Um, so literally it went it went super. viral on TikTok. It was I will say it. was old. It doesn't feel like it was. People could edit long before AI though.

I know, but it also just doesn't feel. like that. >> Steely baby. >> talking about her cow. >> It's like my pony updates. >> So I fed her. I will feed the burn. >> You see the person over there in the. corner. She literally pans the camera to the. person hunch in the corner and just runs. out the [ __ ] barn. >> Can you imagine not looking back? >> She doesn't I literally just got the. chills. She doesn't say a [ __ ] word,

you guys. Gets in her truck. You're. >> not You're not safe in the truck. >> Get out of there. Get out of there. Get out of there. Okay. >> What is she doing? >> Just trying to like rationalize what. happened. >> What are the sounds though? >> Car locking. Breathing. >> Wait, why can't the.

>> We need to pause. We need to pause like. on the moment. >> Why couldn't she turn the car on? >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. [laughter]. Okay. Oh my god. >> Stop. >> Does she feel like she sees something. right now? I'm not sure. >> I think it was hitting the outside of. the car, wasn't it? That's what those. noises were. >> She's getting out. So, she gets out of. the car.

I I don't know why she got out of the. car. >> It's like what people do in horror. films. What does she see? What is it? Her car keys. >> She put the keys on the back. >> on the back of her car. That's why she. couldn't start her car. >> That's what the noises were. >> Oh, the noise. >> You got to rewind real quick cuz the the. noises were the the thing putting the. keys on the back of the car. >> But didn't she have the key? Wasn't she.

starting it? >> So, we're going to watch it one more. time. I'm going to pause with the person. in the corner so you can see it really. intensely. This is probably the scariest thing I've. come across in a long time. I don't like. it. >> And it's clear that is a person fully in. the corner of her barn. >> just like looking into. >> looking into the corner. So like again. similar to the story about the mom the. mom sitting on the bed faced away. I. feel like when you hear these stories, I.

have such deep chills right now. It's. horrible. I'm gonna be sick. But when. you when you hear these stories about. like the mimics, you never really see. their face. >> Turn that away. >> But go to where the go to the sounds in. the car. That's why she turned around. cuz there was on the back of the car. >> I don't know if I can hear it twice. >> Just. >> We just got to do it cuz we're. >> No, I can I can do it. I can do it. I. just That person I needed to get away. from. Sorry. >> Sorry. >> So, she sees it. She got some cute. little baby cow.

>> She falls cuz she's so scared. >> Okay. She's trying to start her car right. here. >> Okay.

Mhm. That's the thud of the wiper. He was so nice. He's like, "You forgot. your keys." [laughter]. >> Yeah, >> dude. No, Lord. >> What else would he be doing? I mean, that is. >> that's saying come get out of your car. >> Yeah. Taunting her. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> And then like she's hearing it. Who. knows what she's seeing cuz the camera's. not showing what she's seeing really.

either. And then she slowly gets out. >> cuz the lights went off cuz the door was. closed. And then when she opened the. door, the lights came back on. >> I I don't know if I'd been able to get. out. I like would have died of fear. right there. Like I just. >> what the [ __ ]. >> No. and then to have the keys of her. car. >> So, someone took her lanyard, like keys. are on a lanyard, and they put her. windshield wiper, pulled it out, slid. the keys on, and it almost from the. video, it sounds like they just let it. smack the car. >> That's like the most legitimate scary.

feels real video I've come across. What. the actual So, cuz then she like I think. she has a story time. I've I've never. seen it. caption. Do we have a caption? >> Long caption. >> Yeah. [laughter]. I don't know. Maybe this has since been. proven fake, but. >> when I ass like. >> No, it was bad.

>> mimics, man. If anyone has a mimic. story, please put it in the comments. >> And she thought that that looked like. her, too. >> Yeah. >> What the Literally was [ __ ] panned to. her and just staring. >> Yeah. It'd be like when we go out to. take care of the horses at night. I. mean, you know what you're wearing and. you know, you know what you look like, right, from cameras and stuff. So, it'd. be like turning and seeing the back of. yourself with this hat, this shirt, and. you're like, >> "Yep." And you. know what? >> What would you guys do? Run. How far?

And to where? >> I mean, the car was there. Like, I I. probably would have done exactly what. she did. And that's why she like hit her. start push to start in her car like. thinking her keys were in the car where. she left them, >> right? >> And then to know someone whether it's a. real person or paranormal. >> dressed up as someone [ __ ] with you, someone's out there with you. >> There's no way that she would have put. her keys in her windshield wiper. It's. not like a It's not like a oops, I. forgot them on this counter. I must have. just done No, >> no one does that [ __ ]. >> No, no, no, >> no. I would I fear that like this to me.

only happens in Minnesota like at the. old farm in the old barn. >> If I would turn and see that I would. stop and I would stare and I would just. watch. >> really. >> because if it's like I there's no way. I'm turning around and turning my back. and walking away cuz that's when I feel. like. >> you're brave. You're very brave. >> I would stop and stare at a minimum if. I'm going to leave. I'm backing my ass. away. I am not. You're never taking your.

eyes off. >> I'm not. No, I didn't do that at Home. Depot. >> You're not supposed to like look at. mimics. There's There are rules to the. lore. I don't know them 100%. >> What happens? >> I don't know. And I don't really want to. know. I don't know if anyone wants to. know. And that's why we haven't. discovered what happens when you do. engage yet. I don't know. >> Again, this is in the category I do not. wish to experience. >> I would agree. I would agree with that. Okay, let's move on to this next one. I. don't think I can move on, Morgan. [laughter]. >> I'm so sorry, Lauren. I told you you can.

sleep over tonight. Okay, one night. What about the rest of them? [laughter]. >> Well, it it'll diminish. >> Yeah. Yeah. Gosh, that was brutal. [laughter]. >> Okay, next one. >> Yeah, continue. >> Okay, so on my first spooky season. episode, I had a story with Damian about. gnomes. >> Gnomes? Gnomes are apparently a thing. people have commonly see especially when. eating a certain mushroom but. >> like garden gnomes.

>> kind of so this is coming from our/. paranormal encounters titled husband and. I seeing little people/nomes. several months ago I started seeing. little people/nomeish people peek around. my dresser by the hallway to look into. my room at me this would usually happen. at night and occasionally I would see. two gnomes stacked on top of each other. running past the hallway. I have a. history of mental illness, no history of. psychosis, though, and I've been under a.

lot of stress this year. So, I was like, "Damn, I need to get on medication." So, I did, and the gnomes went away for a. few months. I chocked it up to mental. health, but I just started seeing the. gnomes again running past the hallway. I've also had a bunch of things go. missing in a 900 ft apartment to the. point where I feel insane. I left a. washcloth on the ledge of my couch this. week while I was changing my daughter. and when I came back 5 minutes later, it.

was gone. I still haven't found it. despite a massive hunt that involved. both me and my husband. But get this. I. finally decided to tell my husband. yesterday that I was seeing little. people and his face went absolutely. blank. He works from home during the. night and said that last night while he. was working, he saw a little gnome peek. its head over the couch at him, but he. thought he was crazy. We have a carbon. monoxide detector that hasn't indicated.

any problems, so I don't think it's a. mass psychosis thing. Thought I would. share. The gnomes aren't very tall, only. like one foot, and yes, they do wear. cute little clothes. I I was going to. say you guys literally hit like the. cutest paranormal lottery. >> Yes, [laughter]. >> I would take gnomes any day of the week. over mimic. >> I think we have gnomes. The way the. remote disappears every day. >> I literally have made this joke with. Justin for years now.

>> You guys have a leash for your remote. >> We do. We have everything. >> We do it on it. It still goes hair tag. and it like has like a neon case. >> yellow case. It still goes missing. >> No, I'll like literally leave it on the. arm of the couch and then all of a. sudden it'll be like in the kitchen by. the fridge and I'm like where's what the. leash? >> It's You guys took it off the leash. >> No, it's not. I've never had [laughter]. an actual. >> It's not a long leash. >> It's got like a little. >> handle like a wrist strap. >> like a Wii Sport like we we bracelet.

[laughter]. Wait, I wanted to make a couch leash. >> I either someone else has this or I. completely made this up in my head. >> It's a thing. Couch leash. >> Yeah, I thought you guys had it like. attached to your couch. >> I joked about it. I was going to make a. cute one with beads. >> Somehow the gnomes. never allowed for that. That's fair. >> The gnomes would still disconnected from. the leash. >> But I' I've joked for like years now. that I have a black hole following me. >> because things will go missing. >> Yeah, >> they disappear.

Do I have gnomes? Maybe. And they just. haven't showed their cute little selves. yet. >> I'm down with the gnomes. I'm cool with. that. >> Justin's like, I'm down cuz I'm. cohabiting. >> We'll make a little house for you. Like, where do you live? What? You know, >> you know, we do have a wishing well from. a listener. Her dad made it for us. She. gave it to us at the Portland. >> Oh, that was so impressive. >> Her dad made it. Her dad is actually. blind, I believe. And it's this. beautiful wishing well. We could make I.

still have it obviously. Um we could. make a little gnome garden with the. wishing well. >> I love gnome gardens. >> Then they would actually have a place to. hang out instead of steal my stuff. >> Do you think gnomes is kind of. >> steal stuff actually? So. >> do we think they're like Toy Story? Like. they just come to life when you're not. looking kind of thing. Like it's. actually the garden gnomes running. around or is there like are garden. gnomes made by people who have seen. gnomes and then recreated them to be. like this is cool in the garden? >> Are you researching it Morgan?

>> Yes. I was looking up the origin story. of gnomes. >> Mhm. >> Uh 16th century with the Swiss alchemist. Paracelus. who coined the term in his writings on. Renaissance magic and alchemy. So maybe he uh was a little little high. mixed in some potions there and saw the. people. >> Yeah. But but here's the thing with the. mushroom. So me and Damian talked about. this one mushroom that 90 to 96 I don't.

know watch the episode percent of people. that take this mushroom all see these. gnomes when they take it. So how are all. these people having the same experience? Is it truly the mushroom or is the. mushroom unlocking. >> goggles that see? >> That would be really cool. >> Right. Right. >> I [sighs] This is interesting cuz now. you're making me think, well, what if. they just moved to a house that is like. on a mushroom farm? It's mushrooms. growing underneath their home. And so. they're. >> airating. Yeah.

>> Sense. >> Cuz mushrooms, they have those porous. porous pores that [laughter]. >> Yeah. just shooting out chemicals. I don't. know, man. >> I just picture the little guy over the. couch. Yeah. With the little hat and. then back down. >> I know. It's a really It's really cute. The fact that. >> could this be a fake story? They all. could. >> They all could. But the fact that the. mushroom thing is real, like documented, very documented. >> Mhm. >> Are the mushrooms just tricking every.

single person's brain that takes them to. see the same things? Do the gnomes live. in the mushrooms? and then it intercepts. the person's brain. Like what is the. science behind that? >> It would be so crazy to think about the. fact that like how that's trippy. It's a. it's a fun thing to ponder. It is. Okay, let's move on. We're going to end on a. little light-hearted palette cleanser. here. We're done with the main up. We. got spooky Patreon.

Hopping back to the Buzzfeed article. This is a ghost story that's really. sweet. I was putting my daughter to bed. and she was talking about her godmother. because we were reading a book that her. godmother had gotten her. Her godmother. died in 2019 of breast cancer. She was. my very best friend, more like a sister, and she doted on my daughter. We are. reminiscing about her and my daughter's. twinkle lights she has on her ceiling. start going off. They have multiple. settings and they are on the rainbow.

setting. Not too weird. Maybe they have. a short or something. I go to turn them. off. They aren't plugged in. I figure. it's my friend saying hi. She loved. rainbows. I'm not superstitious, but she. promised to stick around and haunt us. I. find it comforting. Those little lights. still go off every now and then. >> Wow. >> A little guardian angel. >> That's really cool. And last but not. least, this next one has to do with a.

final visit from a feline friend. I was. living in Boston. I woke up at 3:00 a.m. or so by my cat jumping up on my bed and. curling in between my calf muscles and. going to sleep. My cat would do this. every night since I was 5 years old. That was his spot. It was something I. was very familiar with. thing is, my cat. was living with my parents on the West. Coast, so I couldn't understand what the. hell I just felt, but I knew it was my.

cat. I just figured I was dreaming. I. got a call from my parents the following. morning that my cat died around midnight. the previous night, 3 hours behind since. I was on the East Coast. >> Oh, I guess that was my cat traveling to. Boston to come see me one last time. Oh, >> not Hudson. >> It's so sweet. That is so sweet. >> Animals are tapped in.

>> The cat was the ghost. >> That's what I'm saying. They are tapped. in. [laughter] They can see the ghost. They are the ghost. They can They can go. into that realm. >> I know. >> I It's crazy. >> We don't deserve animals. They're. They're too They're just too good for. us. Too good for us. They're so They're. so far above us. Do you know how crazy it is that there's. these dogs that like like have these. teeth and faces that are so huge and. they could just jump on you and take you. out and eat you and they're just like,

>> "I love you.". >> I just think how. >> that's such a blessing. >> How much animals can sense I've found a. few stories now that I'm I'm saving for. an episode with a very special doctor. So excited. just please go off according. to plan. But people's animals can like. discover cancer. I've come across. >> dogs are finding people's breast cancer. Like if your dog or animal is like.

paying attention to a certain spot on. your body, licking you, making bread on. you, >> you literally should go get it checked. out. People says so seriously. >> No, but like if a cat is making bread on. your boobs, you better get your boob. checked. >> Yeah. I don't know if this was fake or. not, but I also saw something where if a. dog alerts on you, like in an airport or. walking into Disney or wherever they. have the the dogs sniffing, >> if you get alerted on and you obviously.

don't have any drugs or you don't have. anything, >> you should go get checked because people. have gotten checked and they have some. kind of early detected. >> um like some of the the scariest ver. like cancers that spread really. They they alert and they go in and they. say, "Why'd you come in?" And just I had. a feeling. >> something about. >> a dog alerting on you. So if a dog ever. alerts on you and it's a false alarm, >> just go. The best case is you go and you.

figure out. >> obviously nothing's wrong. You won't. regret. >> finding out what if. It's just Yeah. It's crazy you guys bring this up too. because I don't come across stuff like. that, but my algorithm is a lot of. really cute animal stuff on TikTok and. there was this guy with this his cat and. he just giving the he's the massage guy. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and. >> all of his comments are like you should. go and get checked out. >> I was looking at all those comments and. I'm just like that is. >> I don't know. I.

>> It annoys me because he didn't follow up. and he's not like I've been checked. He's like, "Yeah, >> I was looking." I'm like, "Have you. gotten looked?" Cuz the cat is only. making bread, like massaging him in that. one spot. And he jokes and he goes, "It's a bit where he like pretends like. he's a customer getting a massage, and. he'll talk to the cat as it's making. bread, and then the cat will take its. paws and put it on its mouth to be like, "Shut up." [laughter]. >> And it's such a funny video, but all the. comments are on the same boat as us.

being like, "Hey, you should get looked. at." The cat's trying to tell you. something. >> I literally love that you keep saying. making bread cuz that's what it's. called. >> No, I I only making biscuits and the. fact that [laughter] you made it bread. I'm like picturing these cats just like. blinging out. I'm making How do I botch. everything? [laughter]. >> No, people say making bread. >> Yeah. No, I'm sure I'm sure it's a. thing, too. The minute you said biscuits. like or said like I only hear and I go. biscuits. [laughter].

>> Yeah. But no, I'm sure I mean bread. biscuit is bread. So you're I I'm sure. it's definitely the dough. It's ex Yeah, it's definitely a thing. Like I just it. just like in my head I'm picturing a cat. just being like I'm getting paper. [laughter]. >> Oh my god, >> that's a good Hudson. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's all we got. If you. want more spooky paranormal crimes, Reddit crimes, head over to Patreon. We. are locking in for that one. Thank you.

guys so much for being here. Just. another reminder, we are potentially at. this point still on the road to a. million. Oh, we're going to we're. there's only like Do you think we made. it by now? We're recording this in. advance. >> I looked Oh, by now. >> Like by the time this comes out. >> I think it'll be at $9.99.9. >> I know. Like, who's going to be a. million? >> Yeah. >> If you have Can you track that? That. would be count. >> I'm going to unsubscribe so I can. >> like a gift to the millionth person. >> That'll be me.

You're not subscribed. >> What do I get? No, I'm going to. unsubscribe and wait until it gets. there. I'm. >> Everyone's going to do the Wait. Yeah. No, that's a bad idea. >> Shoot. >> If you're the one that changes it from 1. million 1,000, >> do they show that much? How does it work. after you. >> down to the one? >> I don't know. You know what's so funny? You guys saying this on my Instagram? I. had 30,000 followers and so I was like, you guys, I'm going to do 30 questions. for 30,000 followers. And then by the. time I finished it, people unfollowed.

me. So I'm back [laughter] to 29. And I just got like a memory of that. too. Like it was like a year ago or. something. And it was I looked through. them and I'm like, "Oh, like I answered. these questions so thoughtfully." Like. and then the last one I was like, "Oh. well, oops." [laughter]. >> Well, we're not doing a giveaway until. we hit 2 million. Then everyone will get. a prize. >> You get a prize. >> You get a prize. Oprah style. Yeah, everyone. >> A million followers before episode 298.

on YouTube equals a 10hour long episode. 300 that contains only updates. So. >> other than that, that's all I got. Thank. you guys so much for being here. Oaka is. out. >> The claw. >> I'm an axelottle. [laughter]. Bye, guys. >> [music].