“We Were Used,” Gold Star Father Reveals the Biden Administration’s Shameful Behavior

by August of 2021 Kabal Afghanistan. looked a lot like well zigon Vietnam. looked in April of. 1975 chaotic dangerous and humiliating. to the United States after 20 years in. Afghanistan the Biden administration had. just pulled American troops out the city. immediately fell to the Taliban. president got on a private plane with. millions of American dollars and ran. away like the coward he is and thousands. of Afghan civilians are rushing to. hammed Karai Airport in a desperate.

attempt to flee the country sort of like. those helicopters taking off from the. roof of the embassy in. 1975 so US service members were deployed. to the scene to help keep the peace but. it was an impossible task mobs of. Afghans running on the runway trying to. board flights some clinging to the. landing gear you remember the pictures. and in the middle of that scene that. total chaos created by the Biden. Administration a suicide bomber arrived. carrying 20 PBS of explosives and made. his way to a place called the abig gate.

the entrance to the airport and then. detonated the device and in so doing. murdered 13 American Service members. along with 170 Afghans men women and. children one of the Americans murdered. that day was a Marine Lance corporal. called kareim nikui he was just 20 20. years old he is now credited with saving. the lives of at least three Afghan. families and helped getting them out of. that. country fast forward to 2024 and Joe. Biden is hoping as he stands for.

re-election at the advanced age of 81. you've completely forgotten what he did. in Afghanistan and the humiliating and. deadly way he withdrew American forces. from that country but not everyone has. forgotten in fact those touched by the. tragedy of that day in the preceding 20. years will never forget now if you. watched Biden's State of the Union. Address earlier this month you heard a. man in the audience yell out to Biden. reminding him of the killings that took. place at the Abbey gate at the airport.

in Cabell here's that scene all. Americans deserve the freedom to be safe. and America is safer today than when I. took. office year before I took office murder. rates went up. 30% 30% they went. [Music]. up the biggest increase in. history but the soulless monster keeps. talking that would be Joe Biden the. soulless monster the man you heard. screaming has a soul and he has a reason.

for sadness and outrage he is called. Steve nikui he is the father of that. murdered Lance corporal Kareem Niki. killed in the bombing at Abby gate so. for saying that out loud for trying to. remind Joe Biden of what he did Steve. ncui was arrested at the capital earlier. this month he now joins us in studio Mr. K thank you very much for coming on. thank you Tucker so uh let's just let's. just start with the clip we just played. why did you yell out abig gate and your. son's name at the president okay so um.

yeah we we had an opportunity to. um go to this state of the union this. time we two families were invited by. Mike Johnson yep and so those families. were picked by a hat so there's a a. coalition of families uh which is six of. us and we can get in later why we had to. start a coalition so we all signed a. contract and you know our fighting.

for to get the information of the. withdrawal out but two two there were. two tickets and we we drew hat we drew. names for those and and and hey these. are the ones that are going and so there. was a a a chance. that they might address he might address. and finally say the kids' names because. the thing is he's never he's never. recognized the kids's names he's never. accepted any kind of responsibility for.

the withdrawal Biden Biden has never. said Your son's name never never not. once none of the kids and so we were. hoping that all right well these two. family members you know they're going to. be able to go and and he might you know. bring up. Afghanistan and um say their names now. for me um I had never done any. interviews the only interview that I. really did was an interview I done with. you at the very beginning and after. after his first state of the union for.

whatever reason I I was at work and I. got a call from some some young man hey. look we're trying to fill in a a a spot. in our in. our news thing at 2 o00 or whatever time. was would you come on and I'm like well. I don't do interviews know well look I. need to have someone please and he kept. begging and was persistent and he was. all you know we want to ask you about. Joe Biden's state of the union now this. is the first one that he had done after. the withdrawal and I was like well I.

didn't even watch it you know I mean I. don't do interviews. and somehow I agreed I'm sorry I just. want to be totally clear on this so a. year at or the next year after your son. was murdered yeah so this is in January. probably of. 2022 but you'd never met President Biden. or been to the White House no so we met. him at Dover when we did the dignified. transfer but that was anything but. dignified I mean you know he. um.

it's kind of the same like if you do you. have kids yeah four okay like if I was. drunk and then I killed your kid in a. drunk driving accident and then I went. to you and said well you know what I. know how you feel I lost my son and this. is how he was at do so he talked about. himself he talked about his son so even. in do when we had first met you know. when we had met him in the dignified. transfer he said hey look you know I I. um I understand understand what you're.

going through we lost our son Bo as well. now in there I wasn't I so people had a. chance to whether or not they wanted to. to meet with the president and if some. people didn't want to meet with them. they could go to another room I wasn't. going to be bullied and go to another. room but you know I turned my back to. him so when he walked in I turned my. back to him my. um sorry it's all right my uh daughter. came and stood next to me so we just.

turned our back to her and then uh. Kareem's mom was talking to him so I was. listening to what she was saying and. that you that's what he had said like. you know I understand your loss you know. we lost his son and that just you know. infuriated her even more. um but he he was like this with everyone. and. then everything up in and since we're on. that point I mean we were we were used. that's whole thing was us being used I.

mean we were you know I wanted to wear a. suit when I went to this dignified. transfer for my son and I don't know if. you remember in like the 70 those yellow. school buses that had the like Tijana. tuck and roll you know you're you're. going up and down there's no shocks you. can't put down the windows yeah um it's. in do which is like the most humid place. you've ever been in your life they. transferred Us in these like buses like. all the families they put us up in a. Motel 6 had feal matter on the walls had.

cockroaches. everywhere um all right now we all got. into these buses and we're all sweating. they drove us to do the the place that. they do this at do so the message is. really clear like they don't care at all. yeah but at the time we didn't I didn't. realize that you know at the time I. think well you know I'm doing this for. my country you know I mean I I felt like. almost obligated that I had to do this. yes you know and like here this is but. like oh they're honoring us like a state.

side honoring when when in retrospect. you know it was just trying to show like. oh we're honoring these parents and. that's the end of it do you kind of. understand what I'm saying it's like the. Optics like here look what we're doing. and um it was it was very this is the. first time we I'd seen all the other. parents and remind you this is two days. after it happened so the next day after. this all happens you don't have time to. grieve you have the military telling you. you have to sign these papers we got to. go over here to do Delaware and I'm like.

what's in do Delaware I have no idea. what they're talking in any of this I. have to Google everything I have to. research what a dignified transfer is. you know I'm I have no idea and they're. telling you you know you just lost your. kid now they're saying you have to go to. Delaware and and uh etc etc so when we. go over there it's already and and and. what I noticed the first thing that I. noticed when I went. there. um from being like a boss or a business.

owner I I was able to see a different. perspective is that they had. no they didn't really know what they. were doing they were reacting to how we. were react and I found that to be. shocking you know it's like whoa what is. going on here like there's no. protocol um they're seeing how we would. react if we'd get physical if we'd get. violent if we'd yell you understand what. I'm saying um it could there was that. you know there was a lot of people yell.

I was yelling I was yelling at the. general you know and and I was upset. what did you say to the. general uh so I I I he was pretty much. the only one that I that I yelled at and. and I just said you know you should have. been planning this evacuation you know. you should have taken time you know at. the time I just remember him promoting. his book and then some of the stuff that. had happened with the his counterpart. was you know at the beginning of the you. remember the name of the general yeah. General Miley Millie yeah yeah and I.

just met him last week and he remembered. that he remembered that altercation that. we had and uh um you know I spotted him. um in one of the other room and that do. Delaware let me let me so you said to. I'm sorry just to clear up exactly what. happened so you see Millie at do and you. and two days before your son was killed. and you say to him you should have no. after two days after so this all. happened after right it was but two days. before when when you first met him your.

son had just been killed is it yeah. that's right that's right so you say to. him effectively this is your fault like. you're in charge of this you didn't do a. good job what did he say he said I had. been planning for this you know we did. plan for it. um you know it was a mistake I don't. even I don't know if he said a mistake. but he had said that um and I kept. telling them well you know you don't. care I mean you know I mean you weren't. looking like you were planning for it.

from what I've seen from January until. now um it looked like you're doing. everything else you know it looked like. you were on a book tour and it looked. like you were Co cohering with you know. the Chinese government yeah and you know. he said I think he said I've lost 47. men or 67 men one of the two and then I. said I lost my son and uh so you. confront him and he made it about. himself just like Joe Biden I've. suffered too is what he said you know.

what I now that I've known more about. like the military and. people you. know I wouldn't say so with him I would. say you know what I've noticed with. people in the military and I just. realized this in the last month is that. they look at us. like sorry so people that have served it. appears that they they treat us like. they would want their folks treated if.

they had lost their lives good you. understand what I'm saying good I do and. now in retrospect you know his anger I. think was more along the lines. of his guilt I feel he really felt. guilty you know and he. didn't and he's just mad you know he's a. he's and and and and what I had told him. a couple weeks ago is because I had an. an immense respect for him to me he was. the guy you know he was the face of our. mil milary yes and um more so than.

pretty much anywhere else I mean you. know you you know who Mark Millie is I. mean he's he's a dominating Force at the. you know prior to that even the Donald. Trump had had him. so. um and I think you know that rage was. that was that here he found himself in a. position that you know this stuff. happened and and I I I feel like he felt. some guilt to be honest with you at that.

time seems like an appropriate emotion. yeah but at the time I didn't I didn't I. didn't think that it's taken several. years and me to understand the military. and and that that's I. believe what what he was feeling is that. he was he was upset with how everything. happened and he wanted to convey that. look you know I love you and I've lost. people too and I know what you're going. to and you know and so that was that was.

that between um the time you spent in do. receiving your son's remains staying in. the motel sex with human feces on the. wall um between that and this state of. the union earlier this month had you had. any contact with Biden or the White. House never we've never had any contact. with the White House or Biden and we. have reached out or or um Mcall and and. several people several families have.

reached out to you know maybe have a. round table with them see what their. what their thinking was anything you. know honor us or not honor us honor our. children yes um something and they just. refuse I don't know why they hate us so. much to be honest with you I have no. idea I mean because you're a living. reminder of their failure but but in. America we're supposed to you know. address those failures I mean he had an. opportunity that he could have really.

rallied the country behind him yes very. easily you know by by assuming any kind. of responsibility hell you know I know. people that business owners that assume. more responsibility for someone that. gets hurt on their job than than what. he's done for for these people people. are held more accountable in drunk. driving cases than this and. um man yeah after three years this guy. he just doesn't want to say anything. about any of these kids so how much.

contact have you had with the families. of the other servicemen killed the thir. the 12 other families um so yeah there's. uh well since we've started um trying to. Lobby to get answers which was started. last June yeah um these six families we. talk every week in on in the capacity. that we do for getting these answers. that do you think they have the same. feelings that you. do well I can't I would say on some. things yeah as regard to Millie I.

couldn't I couldn't what about the B. Administration oh yeah 100% 100% we're. we're United on that and so you said at. the outset that you wanted more. information about what happened right. the events that led up to your son's. death right what what do you wish you. knew but don't Okay so we've made a lot. of progress so what happened was when. this all happened we you know there we. didn't have the house so any of the. hearings if you look at any of the the. Senate hearings that were there they.

were all kind of biased like they all. said oh no this was great you know we. did a good job of course we're GNA it. wasn't until um uh McCarthy became. speaker that we actually had an. opportunity to to get the answers that. we needed so last June. um we got an opportunity from darl Isa. to do like a public we went you know we. went to Washington and the premise was.

like look we don't know what's going to. happen but we're going to introduce you. to McCarthy we're going to introduce you. to scalise um Mcall and we're going to. get you to know because no nobody knew. our our story nobody you know it wasn't. um really out there maybe it wasn't to. some degree in like maybe social media. or something um because that's probably. the only outlet that the parents had. like their Facebook or or whatever but. there's a good portion of Americans that.

don't even pay attention to that so um. and I being one of them I'm I'm not on. any of those that I could Channel any. anything and um so when this opportunity. came you know they're like look we don't. know what's going to happen we don't. know if there's anything but we're going. to go down there and you know and every. family of the 13 was was. was invited to this like here's what. we're doing um it's said it was set up.

by Sha Reyes from Utah and um kind of. connected us with these people and then. it kind of from there went with Daryl. Isa he was the one that you know had. been Champion everything at that point. and um so you know they they even had. funding for it like we're going to take. the mom and the dad of each. um each child each service member. whoever wants to come and uh we're going. to go down to Washington and see if.

there's any any anybody that's. interested in anything so we went down. there we met um these different offices. we told them our stories because nobody. knew really our stories um you know what. had happened to us in do and then really. like the the stuff that we were being. told so they had given us a whole bunch. of Lies you know we're we're people are. talking to the kids people are talking. to everyone that's coming back and what. the government is telling us is. different from what these people that.

were actually there are saying and so. we're like well they're like oh there. was no gunfire one of the Marines. actually killed one of his aggressors. you know he like shot him and and killed. them or I don't know if he killed him so. to say that there was no gunfire is. absurd now my son before I sent. him or before he went to Afghanistan I. bought him a uh when I was a kid when we. were kids there was that buck 110 knife.

that the Duke the Duke boys had they had. that that with the uh with the bolster. on it so I bought my son one of those. but a switchblade and I said you know. this is good for fast uh you know if you. need a knife you know you can it's a. switch blade I bought him this and he. carried it on him I have pictures of him. in Afghanistan with it well when the uh. when the Koo which is the casually. assisted Coordinating Officer so every. time that something something happens in.

the military to your loved ones you get. assigned to Koo and he's basically the. Le liaison between the military and your. family I mean everything from A to Z you. know he's like your best friend and so. when he had come that night to my house. I had said to him hey look you know. nothing else I nothing else I wanted um. except for that knife you know I told. him hey I gave my kid this this knife. and uh I want that I want that. back and you know he can't he didn't I.

just met him like two minutes ago and um. he's all you know he listened to me well. on September 17th is when they brought. my son his body back and uh so we you. know it was a very nice another kind of. dignified transfer from Ontario Airport. to where we live in Norco he's buried um. like literally less than a mile from my. house and that whole way you know the. streets are lined American flags and.

people and everything and then when we. get to the cemetery um he pulls me in. the back room and he and he pulls out. that knife oh you know in in the case. and I'm like just happy and for me it. was like I put so much value in that. knife you. know like for some reason I felt like if. I had that knife it would it would. eliminate some of my pain that it had. you know that that's something that we.

and I got my dial calipers and I started.

measuring the depth of the hole and then. put that depth in relation to the. boattail of the bullet and then measured. the diameter I mean I got real. scientific and you could just pull the. bullet right out of the 556 casing and. put it fits perfect in there it was a. five it's a. 5.56 and. uh you know that's that's proof and and. if it's on the front of his thing it it. came from a crossed it didn't come from.

behind it's not friendly fire cuz he. didn't put it in his back it was right. on his front they also they gave you. pictures of like where your kid is now. every you know Maps so when they gave. you the um the uh the briefing when they. first briefed the families they had maps. and said okay your kid is here x marks. the spot and then you'd ask him well. who's this guy and there well we can't. tell you but then after that they told. the public then these then now all of a.

sudden everybody is out there but the. maps that they gave us were all. different like there's three of them. there's three there's three different. ones but one thing I can't say and and. and and and the other family's kids are. in different locations in those three. different Maps but my son's always on. that wall like my son's always in every. map right across from the bomber like. right across there's three kids on that. wall and he was one of them so there's. no he wasn't turned around there's no. way it could have been Friendly Fire you.

understand what I'm saying and that was. like one of the things is like well here. I've got proof you know I've got proof. that my kid was you're going to tell us. that you know they weren't shot at. everybody can hear it on the videos but. and here's physical proof that I have. and it's not an AK round you know it's. not a it's not an AK size hole it's it's. a perfect like literally that bullet was. probably stuck in there and someone had. to like pull it out. like that's that's how it was and um so.

fast forward to when we met um darl Lia. and them in June I brought that up and. and showed them that and these were some. of the things that that they used to get. the ball rolling to get interest in it. so you know we've since June we've been. going to Congress for no other reason. but to lobby for our kids they give. information that these congressmen don't. have so they can bring in different. people and do hearings and get the.

information that we need and we've made. like enormous traction I mean just the. answers that we've gotten um with the. hearings that they've had have. been good that we have them that we. didn't you know we didn't have them. before but is a testament to what a. failure this was and we've pretty much. gone in all avenues we've exhausted the. military I believe at this point that. you know the well you know there the.

part that they were in charge of was a. retrograde so there's two parts to it. there was a retrograde and then the. evacuation and the retrograde went off. unhitched you know no problem the. problem was was that when you hear. people say well you should have taken. the people out before you take out the. military they should have done the Neo. before they did the retrograde and and. that's where the point comes is that the. state department and the administration. was in charge of the Neo and the. retrograde and the only reason why they.

did the Neo now they did the Neo the Neo. was implemented by uh Ross Wilson who's. that's another guy he's he's the guy you. know after all these nine months of. going back and forth uh it's not you. know I don't see it's the generals I. don't see it's the military it's this. guy he's a guy that initiated the the. Neo and he did it on August 14th now who. is Ross Wilson and if you could just. explain what a Neo is I just I just I. I'm not he's the Ambassador so he was.

the Ambassador for Afghanistan that's. about all I know about him uh we just we. just kind of stumbled on to him a couple. weeks ago in that hearing that the two. generals had um a Neo is a non-combatant. evacuation and those are you know. planned by the state department so every. Embassy has a. Neo um the problem that they did is they. didn't implement the the Neo soon enough. so he implemented it on August 14th.

because the Taliban was he could see the. Taliban coming so he sees him and he's. like uh oh I'm going to implement the. Neo and then on the 15th they come in. and they take the embassy I don't. remember if you remember those pictures. where they're over there and that was. all because the day before and even even. the generals were kind of like well we. and I said no you you guys did the ne. because you saw the Taliban right there. it wasn't you know for any other reason. that they he was scared and that's why. he did it and if it had been done months.

earlier I mean actually the whole thing. should have been done at the beginning. per the do Doha agreement I mean all the. Liberals say oh well don't forget the. Doha agreement it's so frustrating and. I'm glad this last time we went to um. and we heard these Senate hearings with. uh the two generals you know Mall uh um. McKenzie and and Miley finally Meeks. because every time that guy's like well.

don't forget you know yeah we we we. appreciate the service and the sacrifice. and and not pointing CL but don't forget. who initiated the Doha agreement they. always have to do that little jab and. I'm here to tell you I don't think. anyone knows anything about Afghanistan. better than any of these parents you're. right he should have followed the Doha. agreement that would have been that we. wouldn't have had this catastrophe. so you show up at the State of the Union. a couple weeks ago do you plan to yell.

out your son's. name I wouldn't say really planned um I. you know we we got the opportunity that. there were other tickets other other. members had given it to us and um I. wouldn't you know I'm I'm sure I had. said this some people yeah I'm would I'm. going to say something if this guy. doesn't say anything but when you're. there in the greatest country of the. world with the most powerful people I. was scared like I was scared you know am.

I going to get killed am I going to. commit suicide tomorrow because of this. you know who knows right and uh so no at. that time I was just in in serious. prayer you know I was like praying to. the Lord you know humble me soften my. heart you know let let your will be done. you know and to be honest with you when. I stood up when I just heard him say. something about kids at some point he. was talking about kids and then he said. something about being safe and I just. stood up and I didn't even I didn't even.

like the Holy Spirit like got in me and. stood up and I don't know if you ever. had anything like that happen but like. the effects of that had had affected me. for weeks afterwards you know like what. what really happened there and when I. stood up and I said the the first thing. I said I kind of realized I had said it. and I paused I was like uhoh what did I. do you know and then I said you know. United States Marines and I said his. name and I said you know second. Battalion first Marines but I don't even.

remember saying any of that like I don't. even remember saying any of that you. know it just kind of came out and if I. could back up to why I had went earlier. I was talking about that first state of. the union I got these reporter you know. and I felt bad for him and I wanted to. help and I said all right well look what. I'll do it's my lunch break I got an. hour lunch break on my lunch break I'm. going to watch a state of the union so. that I'll be able to. answer appropriately for your interview. that that you want me to do he's all.

right so I watched his interview or I. watched his State of the Union the first. one and at like 56 minutes he he brings. up. Afghanistan and he did the exact same. thing that he always does he says okay. you know we're never going to you know. the the heroes that we they didn't even. say 13 and then one lady in the audience. she's like 13 of them I think it was. bobit or bobit or yes and she said. something and I was I got goosebumps but. he then did the same thing he went right.

into bow he went right into his son and. he said the existential threat to the. military is the burning of diesel fuel. in pits because that's I think how Bo. got his cancer and I was just like. crying I was so devastated like once. I I I was for more than the fact that. like when this happens like like I said. like all these cockroaches come out of. the Woodworks like every media you know. they want you know people. I'm selling this oh we love you and this.

I didn't get involved in any of it but I. had seen that this was happening all. over yes with a lot of people and um so. so a part of me was upset that I had. watched this all right so I'm devastated. I'm devastated like like this what this. president had just done and how he had. turned it again I mean can't even say. the kids' names if he would have said 13. names at that State of the Union we. wouldn't even be here right now all. right but he didn't and so I call this.

uh I call this um I call this reporter. Guy back to tell him you know I'm like I. watch it I'm devastated well when I call. him back he's like oh hey Mr n yeah. we're not going to do the interview. because we got Mark Schmidts to do. it and I was just like wow like in my. heart you know here I watched the I. didn't want to do it I did it because I. wanted to help him because he said we we. have to fill in a slot um and none of. the other parents can do it then I agree.

to it I watch this I get affected by it. the only the only saving grace I have is. like all right I'll get be able to vent. something in this interview yes and then. the guy's like no we ain't going to do. it because we have one of the other. parents and I was like crying even. harder and and so I've had to deal with. that for three years with you know my. God with my Lord. um praying you know like hey Lord you. know.

humble me from this soften my heart from. it you know like whatever so when the. opportunity came to go to the State of. the. Union I'll be honest with. you there is no way I was going to leave. that State of the Union without my kid's. name being said you know and and I feel. like and and but at first I thought that. they would say something so I felt like. it was the Lord telling me like here you. know your reward for being patient and. faithful for 3 years I'm going to I'm.

going to bless you with this you. understand what I'm saying and then it. didn't happen you know it it's like it. didn't happen and I was I was able to. see my other the other parents I was I. found them in the crowds you know where. they were at and just the way that they. were looking the Despair and the the. sadness that they had at that State of. the Union everyone was slumped over just. kind of devastated you know and uh. another thing I was like concerned like.

like the state you would think that the. speaker of the house would have the best. seats right like all right well these. two families are getting the speaker of. the house and I was I remember praying. to Lord like Lord you know why don't I. have those seats you know why don't I. have the best seats I'm thinking I don't. know that they are and then McCall gives. up one of his seats you know and he's. the head of the chairman right so um. whoever got that SE I'm oh Lord why. didn't I get that seat you know and.

that's all right thank you for the seats. that you give I don't even know where my. seats are but I'm just assuming you know. that's how people they do you know we do. this we we do our own assumptions as it. turns out the seats I got were like. right directly like I was watching the. President like you. know um right in front of him like right. where he comes out of that tunnel I was. sitting right above there so the Lord. had given me like the best seats in the. whole world and like for the last two. weeks I'm like oh Lord you didn't give.

me you know I don't even know what the. seats are but I'm assuming that they're. the worst and and a lot of this has. happened me in in the course of of of. this you know by being patient I feel. like the Lord has blessed me and these. These are the little blessings that I. need I don't need any praise I don't I. don't want to put anything on Facebook. and then read those comment oh God bless. you you're so awesome and um none of. that so what happened after so you. called out your son's name and said at. Abby gate and then what happened yeah so.

then. um those there was these two young men. and they came and kind of grabbed me and. uh escorted me up who were they so I. guess they were the Capitol Police but. they were in like suits so they weren't. they weren't. dressed in police uniforms or anything. like that and you know they escorted me. into the hallway and then at that time. the guy that I was telling you that's. been with us from the beginning Marlin.

he came he ran he was sitting at the. other side and he ran to me and I wasn't. scared until I seen his. face um and I was like when I seen him. turn the. corner like around Gallery 6 and I saw. his expression then I was nervous you. know I was like uhoh you know I'm in. trouble and uh yeah so they they fris me. uh he tried to say he release them to me. you know releasee them they're like no.

you know you're ain't getting them and I. had my Bible with me but it was locked. in one of the things and I had they give. you a ticket and I kept telling him hey. Marlon get my Bible get my Bible I want. him to grab my ticket out of my pocket. to go and get my Bible but he doesn't he. doesn't want to touch me because I'm. detained right now were you being held. by the oh yeah they had me back here and. and they cuff you not yet they they you. know what yeah they cuffed me they. cuffed me right there in the hallway and. they knew I was a gold star Dad too. because he had told him he's all hey.

he's a gold star dad you know and there. was a reporter who after she said that. after he said that she said sir why did. you do what you did and Marlon was all. please please ma'am you know he's a gold. star dad can and told her whatever so. they had known at first I thought they. didn't know I thought that they I was. just you know a guy that talks out but. they knew and so then they took me down. to the basement and they did how did. they treat you I would that pretty good. yeah very nice yeah were you handcuffed.

as they LED you to the basement yeah. yeah they handcuffed me so I knew I was. going to to jail because they handcuffed. me and then then they took me downstairs. they did an extensive um search and then. they had their uh some new kids that had. never done searches so they used me to. to practice their searches so I got. searched by like three different people. did anyone explain why you were being. handcuffed in arrested in search for. saying your son's name no no no that.

wasn't until I got back to the Capitol. Police but. um at the Capitol Police they asked uh. you know they I turn in all my stuff. they they take it and um the two the one. of the boys that was just in his his his. suit was asking me questions like you. know my my name and everything and then. afterwards Secret Service and another. guy from Capital police come in and then. they read me my Miranda rights and asked.

me if I wanted to talk to them and and. let me know that look you know you'll. probably be out of here in an hour um. it's. $50 and you know do you want to talk to. us and I said yeah I I'll talk to you. what did they ask you so he asked me so. the one gentleman that wasn't that. worked for Capital police asked me why I. had done what I did and so I'm crying. you know I'm telling them and both of. the these. kids um were service members ex-service.

members I think he was a soldier and the. Secret Service guy I think he was in the. Air Force and uh so I was telling him. you know my story you know like hey this. guy's never said my kid's name I lost my. kid in Afghanistan and you know I'm. really emotional you. know but that Capital policeman he kept. every five minutes he would say Kore. would just look at me and say my kid's.

name and he would tell me I'll never. forget you know like every five minutes. he would just say this to me and uh to. comfort you yeah good man yeah I was a. great man and you know asked me hey have. you gotten any help like no I don't need. any help I'm just just right now you. know I'm feeling this way and. then. um he had told me that uh he had told me. that.

um well we you know if you say something. and then we tell you to be quiet then. you don't then we arrest you again then. we arrest you and I said well nobody. ever told me to be quiet you know I. never I never was afforded that. opportunity and then he left and then. they asked me more questions the other. kid in the suit you know just basic. questions um sex weit and stuff like. this and then he came back and he said. that again. and then he said well there's two ways.

like if we can ask. you and then ask you again in the rest. you or we can just arrest you and he's. all you don't want to be that because. that's a felony so I felt like he was. kind of throwing me a bone you know like. and I kind of picked up on that and I. was all all right you know I I. appreciate that yeah I guess um they did. tell me when did they let you go so what. happened was was that you know as we're. talking and he's telling me this stuff. he says the congressman is outside so we.

I was invited by Congressman Brian mass. and Brian Mass bailed me out of jail. like was there and he's all the. congressman's right outside the door and. I felt. like like a million dollars because I. knew like all right I'm all right now. you know I mean I've got the congressman. you know to help me um and so yeah he he. got me out and walked me and. had met you know had met him we've met.

him several times he's there's only you. know there's there's four congressmen. that I call the four horsemen and. they're military men so they understand. it's Isa Mills Mast and Waltz and then. they're all led by um um the the. chairman Michael McCall so he he's he's. the chair of the House of Foreign. Affairs and he's the one that's able to. bring these hearings and then these guys. are just you know they're the ones that.

we're telling our stories to and they're. helping do whatever they do in. Washington to get get the message out so. the fact that he was there meant a lot. to me like like all right you know I'm. not so because to be honest with you. from what I see on TV yeah hey sh yeah. we love you but the next day I'll be on. my own this is my I'm thinking you know. I'm like yeah I'm GNA be all by myself. you know this is great for tonight but. come the 28th when I've got to go to. court I'm gonna be by myself but the.

fact that he was there and you know he's. a man of God and we prayed before I. don't know if we prayed before but we. talked about like what we're talking. about in our in our the the. spiritual you. know road that that I've taken with my. son and. uh it was I was just really blessed that. he was there there and he got me out and. then when I got out um you know Isa.

Waltz all of them we're not going to let. anything happen you you know we we're. going to stand by and even they telling. me this I still felt like oh a week from. now I'm going to be by myself you know I. never really had. any you know true belief like hey these. guys are going to be here till the end. but they were I mean every couple days. they would they would do what they have. to do and and from what I understand um. they found out that because the gavel. wasn't hit that I didn't I didn't.

obstruct Congress so the fact that and. Mike Johnson helped that so Ken Calver. Mike Johnson um Waltz and um Daryl Isa. and to some extent Mast and Mills they. you know helped to get this out like hey. he didn't he didn't obstruct anything. because the gavel wasn't hit what's your. life been like at home since your son. died yeah so yeah the my personal life. has. been very bad it's better now but you.

know at the. beginning when this first happened was. was just devastating I didn't really. have a home where I. could recuperate from this you know my. son and I you know Kareem's real best. friend was his little brother Stephen. and he was like 15 when this. happened and uh so I just said Focus I'm. focusing on him like you know he's and. he's so strong and so brave you know.

he's uh he was 15 when his brother was. killed he's 15 and they were best. friends and. um man he's a rock you know you know. kareim was a a Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Champion Stephen is one they. they wanted to be in MMA and and. fighting so they're not they're not. um they're not weak in that aspect but. you know they're very compassionate to. the underdog they're very quiet um you.

know Kareem was a little guy growing up. so he sometimes would be. bullied and that that was one of my. concern when he started to learn how to. fight you know I was like hey you. know I don't ever want to hear that. you're bullying anyone or you're doing. any of this and and luckily that never. happened you know um he was always. compassionate to the underdog and and. and the people that couldn't speak for. themselves so you know our home life was.

just it was just chaotic for the first. year and but but I think maybe the Lord. had that happen to keep me. from ruining myself to you understand. what I'm saying like all that probably. happened just so I. wouldn't ruin whatever you know I just I. just went in my room and and just. focused on the little things you know my.

son and and whatever I could and because. there's a there's a lot of oh we want to. do this for your kid and we want this. interview and and this and. that and for me to mitigate like how. could how could these parents not like. feel some sort of like Pride or. something after all this right and I. remember telling my kids look you know. be careful. how you deal with this because it won't. always be there and then you're going to.

resent the fact that it's not there. that's right and don't forget there's. tens of thousands of service members who. died that don't have you know shootery. boards at their front doorstep with a. knock I mean there it was just it insane. stuff at your front door cards we love. you money um checks you understand and. and every check every cash I ever got I. still have it so I never spent any of. that I and every card that we got I not.

probably every one of them because it. was just too much but I wrote you know. back to them but I remember telling my. kids hey you know watch out how you how. you process this and what you do with it. because um it's going to ruin you in. your faith um another thing um that that. two other things today is our. anniversary where my sons and I got a. baptized. we got baptized on.

uh March 26 2017 and we got baptized. together in the same pool and. uh in the year so the other thing is is. that like when you lose someone like. when I lost my mom I lost my dad within. a week like if they died on a Thursday. next Thursday you'd bury them and and. that was it you know I mean you start. trying to put your life together and. this situation didn't really happen I. mean it was like five weeks they brought.

back his body. and you know things come up certain. little things would come up like I know. that they had the uh. um and when these things come up you. kind of focus towards that so you. repress your feelings and everything for. this one event right and you're like. okay well this events coming up and I'm. going to I'm focusing on that and one of. the events we had in November was the um. the memorial at Camp Pendleton now since.

he was he live we live like 45 minutes. from Camp Pelton he came home every. weekend so the only time I never seen. him was when he actually deployed you. know and he'd bring his Marine friends. home with them and I felt bad because. some of them lived in Iowa there was no. way they could see their family so if we. could give them a weekend where they. felt at home then I was all for that you. know it was kind of like around covid so. we were cooking breakfast and we.

couldn't really go to church and I had. to. uh sometimes I'd have the TV on uh. with our preacher our pastor and they'd. play games and they do whatever you know. and my son would take them on Hikes and. they would drink on Fridays you know. what whatever they however they had. their own mind you know they were able. to do it at our house and I was I was. blessed that that we could provide that. for them and so we had this memorial for.

the Marines right and um you know I. never did any interviews or anything I. didn't want to be I didn't that wasn't. right for me. and um so I focused all my heart towards. this Memorial which was in November and. surpassed all my feelings and everything. and and well I'm just going to focus on. on that part and we went to the memorial. and it was beautiful and they had the. missing man formation with the. helicopters that went over the the.

mountain where he would hike over there. in Camp. Pendleton and and that I think that was. either on a Thursday or. Friday and then on that. Sunday I just I felt like a lot of. remorse I felt like grief you know and. for me with my religion which is. Christian is you know for me to I felt. like for me to display. grief is me saying I don't believe in.

the Lord you know is that weird I don't. know and so I'd never really just had. any grief I never had any. sorrow except for that day I remember I. was in my master bedroom and it was the. Sunday and there was nothing else to. look look forward to there was no other. event that was the last. event and I remember just like. feeling you know immense grief sorrow.

and I was like Lord why and I'm looking. out at the mountains that he would put. weights in his ruck sack and. hike and I was like Lord you know why do. I have this feeling you know why do I. have this why why am I feeling this way. and then he said hey the Holy Spirit or. the Lord told me hey look at the day. that you went to Harvest Festival so. Harvest Festival so we gave our lives of. Jesus Christ together all right in this. place in in in Angel.

Stadium um by a fellow name uh Greg Lori. who does the same thing that. um. um I forgot his name but Evangelical in. the 70s U Billy gr Billy Graham would do. the same thing so they'd go to these. stadiums they'd preach the gospel and. you had an opportunity to give your life. to Jesus Christ there and a lot of. people did this in in Billy Graham. um things he's doing the same thing he's. been doing it for like 20 years so if I.

could just go back in like 2015 I. realized that my kids didn't have the. same Faith like like I did you know like. yeah I said you need to be Christian and. and once in a while would say but I. didn't lead and I didn't tell them about. so my kids were already older you know. so I didn't have a I didn't have an. opportunity to indoctrinate them when. they were younger these are teenage boys. and and I was praying you know Lord. please you know I failed you know give.

me an opportunity and he did you know uh. Kareem started asking about a church in. like um in 2015 we started going and I. knew that I could tell them hey you got. to do this but they I had to change you. know I had to make an a concerted effort. to make a change and. be sincere with the faith so that they. would follow because I can't just tell. them something you know I have to lead. by example. and so that transformation happened it. took a year or something and the the.

pastor was like Hey you know um there. you know Greg Lori is having this thing. down there and we we encourage everyone. to go so I'm thinking Lord this is our. opportunity thank you you know and. they're we're going to church every. weekend me and my sons every Sunday and. we're working through I'm working. through the different things and and. being real with them you know ties you. know how do you deal with ties right. like At first I was like I'm not giving.

them any money you know and uh my pastor. had said something at the time he was. all like well do you guys like in this. weeks later he had said well do you guys. like air conditioning and that just I. realized like my ties are for the air. conditioning and it made me so I made a. point to yeah I talked bad about the. ties before I'm going to make a point to. show my kids that look I've I've changed. I realized and we're going to start. giving time so the boys I would give. them their money so that they would know.

to give ties so every Sunday we would be. giving our ties and that's just an. example of how we work through some of. the obstacles in our faith you know and. and we're real about it you know we. weren't just saying it we were acting. upon it and um so we went to GRE. glories and we all gave our lives to. Jesus Christ you know Stephen shiler. stepen uh k Dre me and Shana we all gave. our lives to Jesus and um and I felt.

blessed you know I was like wow like. this doesn't happen you know I mean who. gets this opportunity I failed and then. but I prayed for a solid year you know. please Lord please and just such a. blessing and then from that blessing you. know we were we always went to church. you know it was it was became part of. our background and me telling and. preaching to the boys you know you know. about the gospel as well as our our.

pastor and then fast forward to that. time when I was right after the. um right after the Camp Pendleton. Memorial the Lord and I'm looking out in. the backyard and I'm feeling grief and. I'm just feeling horrible you know the. first time in like eight months or. whatever and I'm like why do I feel this. way you know I you know and the Lord. said hey Steve look at when you went.

and that was uh that's pretty powerful.

you know to let me know you know and. that was just for me like we had done. some events where you know they had. honored and Greg Lori had done um that. year had done his Harvest Festival and. honored my son and he only had one that. year it was October 3rd or 5th because. of covid and they had done a big page. thing and they honored my son and uh um. and he didn't know this otherwise he. would have been all over it you know. everyone would have been all over that. uh I would assume but that was just for.

me that was just for me you. know that the Lord told me that like to. let me know that you just got to show up. you just got to show up and I'll take. care of everything. else I appreciate you taking all this. time thank tell us this I know it's hard. but I appreciate you thank you thank you. steveni. hey it's Tucker Carlson the internet is.

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