Tucker & Charlie Spiering React to the Al Smith Dinner, & Why Democrats Are Turning against Kamala

so how how long did you marinate in. Carmela Harris and how do you pronounce. her. name well as she she issued a ad when. she ran for Senate featuring children to. remind everybody exactly how she. expected her name to be pronounced and. obviously you know that if she if you. divert from that then you are. automatically accused of um all sorts of. things but most of all it's a very. racist thing to do you saw the same. accusation go when Donald Trump did his.

Al Smith dinner speech said Cala and. that made a lot of people very angry who. are still how can you be racist if you. don't know what race she is well she's C. I'm not even sure who I'm discriminated. against when I'm discriminated against. Carmela Harris or whatever name is right. I imagine that if you if somebody. mispronounced your first name then. perhaps you could say that well if I if. I pronounce my own first name at least. two different ways as she has we have it. on tape um then I think it would be a.

lot to attack other people for for. pronouncing it differently right it's. something that if you're that insecure. about how people pronounce your name you. know it shouldn't be you should just be. able to either quietly correct them or. or be completely Just Go With It yeah. but she's made it very clear and spent. money to make it clear this is how I. pronounce my name. [Music].

[Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music]. so how long did you spend like staring. at kamla Harris like how long did you. work on this book right so I started in. January 2023 just doing the research and. pulling everything together so about a. year year I spent were working on.

researching writing the book and wrapped. it up the first draft by the summer of. 23 so just to skip to the end and we'll. unpack it of course but did by the end. of your research did you like her more. or less yeah probably less but I learned. so much about her that it just seemed. you know she she frequently talks about. you know never let anyone else tell your. story you tell your story she cites this. all the time she it last night during.

the Al Smith dinner video that she did. never let anyone else tell never let. anyone else tell your story you tell the. story and that statement strikes me as. very fundamentally unamerican right. seems like if you run for office. then if you tell your story it's. probably not real there's probably a lot. more to the story than your preferred. version and so that was a huge part of. it just finding out more about her but. also just the endless talking about. about herself she and everyone in her.

social class and political party all. they do is talk about themselves right. but only in very scripted ways right but. how about at all like talking about. yourself is like and the I I would say. the main thing I mourn as I look back in. the world I grew up in that's now gone. the thing I miss most is the directive. that came very clearly from my family. and I think in most families like shut. up about yourself already stop talking. about yourself it's not about you you.

freaking narcissist well that's why so. much of her campaign depends on her. identity no but have you noticed this I. mean maybe it's just the culture the. angle culture I grew up in like you were. not welcome to talk about yourself all. the time that was considered just like. not acceptable at all not very rude and. pompous like you don't want to be that. person even politicians are kind of. encouraged to talk about other people. instead of of course don't a huge part. of it is just crafting her identity from.

the very beginning when she first. started running for national office she. was very focused on creating this image. of her as a person um really baking into. to her identity first of all that she. was the product of that she always cared. about politics she always cared about. Justice she grew up marching and. shouting with her activist parents who. pushed her in a stroller through these. protests and then you know skip a few. decades and then suddenly she's sort of. the product of uh the overarching.

Progressive Movement that somehow she. she's always been this Progressive. liberal who has always been very focused. on Justice and truth and has made it. part of her life and part of her. biography when that's not really true. well well it's demonstrably not really. true I'm not sure what is true about a. couple of episodes in her life that I've. heard really nothing about and one. is her high school years in Canada and I. think any adult looking back will.

concede that high school is the period. that forms you more than any other and. that period in her life was spent unless. I'm misremembering in Montreal Canada. right a huge part of her life was spent. in Montreal and so you're kind of. alienated from any sort of your. upbringing so she she's definitely. alienated from San Francisco and the. Berkeley environment where she was. raised kind of brought to an similar. location academic neighborhood High. middle class I believe you know it's.

was not a not a m working or middle. class neighborhood in Montreal in. Montreal yeah and she was the product. she went to a school with you know a lot. of Elites in the in the country and was. certainly aware of what was going on but. it was sort of she was sort of alienated. from the overall American Experience. right well yeah so she did spend her. high school years in Canada and she. might have gone home to California for. some of the Summers I think there's. evidence that she did so to visit her. dad on a couple occasions but I don't. think she spent much time there did she.

graduate high school in Canada I think. so and then then she's Canadian I mean. why are we play I'm serious like why are. we protect it's like Obama who grew up. in Indonesia I don't and Hawaii I don't. understand why we're ignoring everyone. seems to be ignoring the obvious you. know you are formed by your years in. high school and so she's basically was. very inspired by people in her life um. people who were in California to go to. Howard this is definitely a product of.

kamla Harris seeking to sort of seize on. an identity by going to Howard in DC as. you know this historically black. University and really sort of embracing. that identity and using that as she. moved back to California and into the. you know went to law school in. California and sort of jumped into the. legal. world yeah I mean the the Peril Obama's. a much smarter and more talented I I. think than KL Harris but there is a.

similarity in that both of them have. these rootless childhoods not their. fault of course Broken families pretty. tragic family situation for both of them. and both of them and and neither one of. them has anything to do with American. Black Culture at all either genetically. or culturally they have just nothing to. do with it and both of them decide to. become American black people right.

that's why she brings up who she calls. her second mother a lot she was raised. in a by her single mom who was always at. work and then uh in the same building. there was a person who ran a daycare. center Miss Shelton and this is the. woman who is actually from the black. South has that she referred to this is. the woman she refers to as her second. mother who's a small business owner she. okay so this is the woman she was. talking about in Her speech I was. totally confused so who is this woman. this is uh Regina Shelton she ran a.

daycare business in the same building as. as their apartment and she helps raise. the children while Mom's at work and so. she describes this woman as her second. mother and this is the mother who's. connected with the black South that took. kamla to you know kamla talks about her. taking them to a Christian black church. where and even she says they sang in the. choir at this church and so whenever. she's in a place where she's speaking to. the black church she refers to this.

experience whereas when she was running. for office in California her mother she. went to a black church once all the time. apparently according to KLA got it but. at the same time when they were doing. magazine articles with kamla Harris's. real mother she said that and they were. speaking to certain. audiences her real mother said that she. grew up in the Hindu temple and. practiced all of the traditions and uh. and believed in all the Hebrew in all. the.

Hindu uh religious practices so she was. actually a polytheist in childhood right. and when she first starts running for. office there's there's a couple. incidents where she starts referring. to um this Hindu. goddess um and using her she uses this. Hindu goddess as I think it's. pavari um who is. both she's both a vengeful Warrior and.

also someone who's very loving and so. she refers to this goddess as as someone. who inspired her care decision to get. into law enforcement and Justice so wait. what yeah so she will a. goddess yes um Hindu goddess inspired. her to get into Justice someone who can. be both a vengeful goddess but also a. caring and loving goddess was she. suggesting that this goddess was real. right this character in her in the.

mythology of the Hindu religion I don't. think it's considered mythology I think. it's considered real oh from if you. truly believe in well yeah if you're a. Hu I don't I don't think you think it's. fake I think you think it's real it's. unclear and it may be entirely Real by. the way right but from a Christian. perspective that's demonic so no I'm not. kind of taking sides though I have an. opinion but um obviously but as a as a. theological matter M those couldn't be. more more incompatible with each other.

like you can't unless you're running for. political office right then you can. right but those the Opposites that's. like saying you know it's like you know. going to a Peta conference in the. morning and you know cattle rancher. conference in the afternoon and saying I. love you both like that's just not. possible but those are the best. politicians right right okay you covered. the White House for a long time you're. more cynical that I am okay that's just. interesting so she said she was inspired. by a goddess right a Hindu goddess too. again from a Christian perspective a.

demon that that's what Christians think. um I guess in the end she also Sayang in. the black choir and about Justice and. learned about Justice and and loving thy. neighbor was she a caner in her. synagogue too do you know I don't. know maybe maybe that's Doug's role. although I don't know if he goes to. synagogue very much I don't think so um. okay amazing has she ever talked about. the kennedyan part of her childhood no. not much oh yeah um that definitely came.

from her mother and some of her earliest. profiles um back when they were just. running for her first office as district. attorney yeah and trying to make the. case that she was a a real genuine. person who really wanted the job and had. an ENT cultural identity that was close. with San Francisco and uh really made. the best case for her as she was sort of. running for office and she mentioned. Canada then no no Canada was not not in. the uh okay in the but but the goddess.

was yeah a little bit yeah for sure. amazing um. so the Howard University. years did she participate at all. politically at Howard that we know of. well she has a photo right of her. protesting at some March on Washington. but that's pretty much the extent of it. she also interned in uh in on Capitol. Hill with Senator um but other than that.

there doesn't seem to be much very much. political activity going on she's yeah a. Democratic. senator um and it's very clear that. she's really just enjoying being at. College as most of us were when we were. in college just enjoying being at. college and I don't think the activist. strect was very strong back then um so I. think the the first time that most. Americans who are not from California. notice K Harris was during the cabau. hearings. right but even before that um when she.

won in 2016 she was sort of the one of. the small victories for women at a time. when their greatest champion Hillary. Clinton was vanquished by at the time. Donald Trump right and so when she. declares victory in 2016 her her race. for Senate she tears up her speech and. delivers something entirely different um. really trying to inspire and encourage. everybody who's watching Ing and vow to.

be the next great fighter who's going to. go to Washington DC and sort of stop. Donald Trump that's kind of her her. first message and one of the very first. things she does was that election night. yeah election night in November 2016 did. she add Li that speech no I think she. and her staff went behind the scenes and. rewrote it yeah yeah very quickly. because they saw that things were not. going well for the Democratic party H. and one of her first things she did when. she got to Washington was deliver big. speech at the woman's March and.

basically saying we are here to fight. and so would that was the pink cat March. yeah I got caught in that by accident uh. most of us who were in the capital were. right yeah well I was I was just driving. um to the gym to play Squash actually. and all of a sudden it was over yeah my. car was surrounded by all these fat. ladies in pink hats and I remember. thinking I don't know what you know I'm. from DC I've been there most of my life. and I never seen these people on 17th.

Street it was one of those days that was. very big like some protests you have to. really try to sell it as a as a big. protest no no that was that was a big. March yeah and as someone who's really. from the bottom of my heart Pro women I. just have always really liked women um I. started to rethink my position on women. just watching the people at that speech. they were the most physically. unattractive. unhappy people I think I'd ever seen in. my life I mean they were just really a. gruesome a bunch was like sad there was.

also a lot of like really like. intelligent feminists from Washington. liberal intelligent feminists who are. out in the street so unhappy it was like. every unhappy chick from Bethesda was. there MH you know what I mean like the. moms you see at the grocery store who. just like hate their weak husbands and I. just didn't realize that there were a. half a million of those people in the. area but there were mhm yeah it was very. uh so she spoke at that what did she say. right she um well it's very interesting. because part of her was still kind of.

clinging to this idea that uh an a. regular agenda was a female agenda she. talks about how you want to talk about. women's issues I will talk to you about. Finance I will talk to you about. education I'm really trying to separate. do women have something special to add. to in those areas right it was like she. was just trying to say that during the. speech she makes the case that you know. all issues are women's issues there's. what feminist economics look like yeah. that was kind of whole point right it's. just like uh okay but eventually I think.

because of the woman's Mark she kind of. does sort of slip into this agenda and. certainly with the uh the the issue of. abortion she really kind of embraced. that but yeah her first idea is that the. that women should not have kids women. should have the freedom to kill their. children in utero right makes them more. powerful right does what did she mention. the goddess when she said that no this. is the new Comm Harris this ising I. somehow feel like the goddess may be. inspiring that position but I can't.

prove it right um okay so she gave a. talk at the women's March was um jog by. memory was that a big deal was she a. major speaker that day she was one of. many yeah okay you know they get all the. Senators up on the stage at the same. time right they each get a couple. minutes MH so yeah as soon as she got to. the Senate she spent a lot of time just. you know clashing with Trump appointees. right because that's what you do when. you first get to the sen they get they. pick their cabinet and they go through. the the hearings and if you can make a.

splash then you can make a name for. yourself and so one of her first things. she torments uh General Kelly who was. widely respected by. partisan uh majority of senators who. viewed General Kelly is a true public. servant and she was she was one of the. ones that clapped with him and um. prosecuted him and and basically made a. name for herself on all the different. appointees and then yes then after that. it was the whole.

um Jeff sessions Russia thing she made a. big name of herself then you know. grilling Jeff sessions and getting him. to admit that if he's rushed then he. gets nervous and that was a whole big. viral moment you know with the with the. dawn of C-SPAN every every Senator every. congressman is looking for these sort of. viral moments yeah to you know. springboard them in the future and so. she really got this reputation as being. a fighter someone who could. take on the Trump people and make them.

look. foolish. H what happened with. Kau right with Kavanaugh it was a time. of desperation for the left and for many. senators who were thinking about running. for president it was your chance I call. it like the kavanau primary whoever does. the best against com again against. Kavanagh is going to earn the respect. from the left as you prepare your run. for president yep so this is creepy but.

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aggressively pursuing Kavanagh and. trying to get him to trip up if if you. remember the famous moment when she kind. of made up this story when she's asking. about whether or not he ever discussed. the Russia case with any lawyer from. this cawit firm in. Washington and cabanon is being very. careful because he doesn't want to be. pushed into a perjury. trap but he says you know I can't think. of any is there a moment that you're. thinking about and she's indicating that. yes there is a moment she's thinking.

about and she's like but you're not. going to tell me are you and kavana is. still being very. careful and it turns out like she never. had any evidence of this ever happening. but she wanted to get. him wanted to catch him in this moment. and ultimately reporters were kind of. surprised by the end of this great. exercise that oh wow she has no evidence. that he ever met or spoke about the case. with the lawyer from this firm um but. yeah it was back in the days when. anything Russia Russia Russia related.

was. hot political news right if you could. ever just smear anybody with the very. whiff of Russia um it was always like a. considered a great Victory which kind of. pales in comparison. now yeah looking back like the stupidity. of that is just on. inspiring one of the no of the Russia. stuff like there was it was the idea. that the Trump campaign was colluding. with.

anybody you know to to actually believe. that you would have to know nothing. about what the Trump campaign was really. like where they were you know it was a. little disorganized they were not even. cluding with each other as you know and. um there was NE never I mean that was. like. insane it it was evidence free Russia. was not a threat to the United States. there were a couple of other countries. that were playing in a huge way in our. elections and still are no one will ever. mention them it's not Russia. to put it mildly everyone in DC knows.

that Russia had no role whatsoever in. our domestic politics and they had no. sort of agenda that would affect our. core interests so like the whole thing. was just nuts and everybody went along. with it everybody went along with it. right like everybody just like the from. the force of repetition just because you. know every channel every newspaper every. day was talking about Russia people were. like you know I really think there's. something there what it just showed how. dumb everybody was or all just herd.

animals including friends of mine for. whom I lost a lot of respect I was okay. I'm open-minded I'm kind of agnostic on. Russia and I'm willing to believe. anything so where's the evidence yeah. did you know do you remember this yeah I. do and it it was it's always very. puzzling because it started from this. dossier right that they always had in. their back pocket but didn't use it. during 2016 because they didn't think. they had to right but once Trump won it. was the first thing that they pulled out.

of their pockets they're like wow we can. actually use this was Harris big on the. Russia thing not too much um she she. prosecuted uh different Trump officials. she did get Bill bar one time you know. asking him if Trump had ever asked him. to sort of stop the. investigation and he he found himself. sort of fumbling for words and couldn't. really answer the question so she did. have some good moments there but yeah I. think a lot of it was was just she was. seen as somebody who was fighting she.

had this opposing you know she was. fighting something else right and then. people place that excitement because she. was the one doing the fighting against. this force that they were very unhappy. about H so how did if you were to. summarize how she behaved during the. cavna hearings um I mean I think I. remember her going all in on the rape. stuff or sexual assault stuff right. right right she was very very adamant.

about supporting Christine Bazi Ford and. was also around the me too movement. right she was very she very she honed in. on that as a political force that would. help her so when it came to that she was. just very intent on pushing her. Christine blo Ford as this as this hero. as this Patriot you know she repeatedly. claimed that she believed her when she. first spoke before she even met her um. she repeatedly said that you know she.

was a patriot and a hero for coming. forward and she really thought that this. was the moment that she could really. push through and stop Kavanagh you know. Democrats didn't have much to go on but. when when they found out that Diane. Feinstein had this letter from Christine. Ford who wished to remain. anonymous um different you know she. confronted Feinstein about the letter. like you better address this once. reports started leaking out about the. existence of this letter she confronted. Feinstein and said you better address.

this or it's going to look real ugly for. you so Feinstein was eventually forced. out to make this letter public to bring. them and to bring her into the. conversation even though she wanted to. remain. anonymous and so this woman was. ultimately pulled into the fight and. Senator senators and Senate staff who. were went through that it was a very. tough time for a lot of people in the. Senate whatever happened so Christine. bazzy forward this is all coming back to. me it was there was a high school party. in Bethesda it always starts in Bethesda.

doesn't it and um which is a suburb of. DC right of course in Maryland. Montgomery County. and the and cabau supposedly at this. high school party 40 35 years before had. acted badly and sexually assaulted. Christine blazy for is that that was the. cor allegation right that was her uh so. then blazzy Ford basically destroyed her. life correct. right I you know maybe she's still a.

progressive hero among some but you. certainly we've seen this story before. where the Democrats will pull a. unsuspecting character to weaponize. against the Republican party and just. sort of cast them aside when it's all. over well exactly nicely put that's. exactly right like whatever happened. Christine blazzy Ford is no longer a. hero right right like George Floyd it's. like she was useful for a news cycle. they upended her life and then I don't I.

don't think they've like named any. chairs after her makes me think of all. the moms who lost their sons in Iraq how. they were weaponized and held up as. Paragons of you know this is why the. Bush Administration is evil because we. have this poor woman who's suffering the. loss of her son they would hoist them up. and bring them to all the speeches and. then yeah and now all those moms are. against the moms who have hostages is in. in you know Israel no it's totally. brought them on stage and then it turns. out oh we can't help your child who's.

being held hostage able to help them. either but we were able to use them. politically to it's funny all those Iraq. moms who were marching against Trump I. mean rather against Bush right they all. have my sympathy speaking for myself but. they. um you know now the Democratic party. that. once you know promoted them and called. them Heroes is aligned with dick and his. repulsive little.

daughter right you still have you know. like whatever happened still have. remnants of the code pink out there they. certainly aren't the Champions that they. I'm side media we're no longer healing. them as the Champions truth and just. sorry to digress TR but it's just it's. just interesting you're bring things i'. forgotten about it is a an interesting. time to revisit for sure so but K Harris. becomes more a national figure after. falsely. accusing right Brett Cav of sexual. assault 40 years ago is that that cling.

I believe the believe all women believe. the victims right this whole me too. movement that was kind of around 2018 I. believe the 17 right around this time. the Kavanagh was sort of brought up and. right like the entire movement was kind. of leveraged in this whole thing where. it's like believe all. women and that's our new platform for. the Democratic party do so women don't. lie ever no especially about this. because they're Hindu goddesses or. something they're incapable of lying I.

don't know I don't know about that it's. funny to find out that 51% of the. population just doesn't lie everything. they say is just gospel it's just true. well you're supposed to because you know. that's the those are the new marching. orders only it turns out that it didn't. go so well does that apply to Candace. Owens or just just Christine bloy Ford. um right just I it's all it's just funny. to look back I'm sorry I keep it up to. you but it's just funny to. it's a capsu remember these moment and.

in retrospect they're so completely. absur it's hard to believe that Martha. Raditz and Joe Scaro and all these other. supposedly educated people are saying. this stuff with a straight face on. television well especially the me too. movement women are you joking. no and K Harris was one of the first to. see this as like a politically. advantageous position to take the me too. movement so there's video of her um. marching in San Francisco at a parade.

championing the me too movement and. who's who's along with her um noted. celebrity Jesse smallet not really he is. also right beside her in a me too juicy. smle was a meour a meour back in 2018. and they're both chanting you know up up. with education down down with. deportation so they're also protesting. know you're making this up Charlie. they're also protesting immigration.

wearing me too movement gear but what's. interesting about that and if you look. at the me too movement as a political. force look at what they did to Al to uh. Al Franken oh yeah he was one of the. first Democratic victims of me to I. defended him right he wouldn't defend. himself he's such a cuck he wouldn't. even defend himself he did nothing wrong. oh right so he was he was a rising. political star yeah people were actively. he just published a book people were. actively talking about him as maybe he's.

the answer to Donald Trump he found this. populist movement in Minnesota that. pretty much vanquished the Republican. Party in the state yeah and was this. like awkward weird anti-trump right and. so people were actively talking about. him as a possible presidential. candidate but then when you know these. allegations start coming out about his. behavior who were the first ones to. seize on it all the Democratic women. sent senors who were also interested in. running a presidential.

campaign I think it's was I think it was. Christian jbrand that fired the first. shot she's the worst not her real name. by the way I can't remember her real. name no it's all fake um I wish I could. remember her real name but it it's not. even close to Kirsten jbrand but. um anyway Amy kachar K Harris they're. all kachar did that they all Bann. together and March to Schumer's office. and say he's got to go. and and he actually obeyed them right.

well him and all his colleagues were you. know when Schumer pulls him into the. office and says I can't defend you I. can't fight for you what are you gonna. do are you GNA fight for yourself and go. be raked over the coals for the rest of. your life or do you just go away quietly. it seems in franken's case he didn't. want to fight the I I know Franken well. and have known him 25 years yeah's.

pretty clever guy um has good qualities. people in the Senate always had good. things to say yeah I mean I never hated. Al Franken but he was ultimately all he. really cared about was leftwing ideology. and just such a sad and being liked. broken. guyed um but again you know Charming guy. talented guy more talented than most US. senators for sure but so weak inside. sure I think bosted around by his wife. that was always my impression Franny. from Portland Main as as I recall but. um but the point is he didn't do.

anything wrong and if he had. just ridden it out for a week and just. let it P just hunker down you know go to. Barbados for a week come back he'd be. fine he was an elected United States. Center and he gave up his seat. voluntarily because four ambitious girls. didn't like him I mean wow what a. loser are you serious right you would. certainly expect and more people started. fighting back ultimately but at the time.

they were very afraid of the movement it. if you were Al Franken and you just. dishonor yourself and your family your. kids are ashamed you go down in history. as some sort of sexual assaulter right. some sort of crypto rapist you give up. your own senate seat that you really. fought hard for just because Kirsten. Gill brand or whatever her real name is. Right wants what you have can you. imagine the regret he must feel right. I and I think a lot of democratic donors.

were not happy with that certainly with. Jill brand a lot of democratic donors. were not happy when she ran for. president in Iowa kind of ended very. shortly afterwards because Democratic. donors were still furious at her taking. Franken off the table completely false. person I'd take Carmela Harris any day. over christien jell brand oh really I. think there's something about jell brand. that's just really um she's just New. Yorker so ruthless oh my gosh you have. to be that's fascinating so yeah so. Harris joined the chorus.

against against uh Al Franken right at. the same time she has somebody in her. office that is. also. under investigation for his own me too. stuff when he was back in California so. someone in her close. Circle uh I don't want to get his name. wrong but it was somebody very close who. was being investigated by you know the. justice. system in California they ultimately had.

she was he was sued by a woman for. inappropriate behavior and they. eventually had to award this woman a big. payout because of things that he had. done to her in her in his office in his. previous job yeah um when K Harris is. informed about it she has no idea she's. shocked I had no idea that this was even. happening well if he was currently. having this case being. taken that was already underway by all.

the rules of the met too movement you're. supposed to get rid of this person as. soon as you hear about it execute him. yeah of course but to have someone on. his sta on her staff who was involved in. this whole. situation and then suddenly claim. ignorance when the ruling is issued. really doesn't pass a smell test well. also I mean k Harris got her job because. she was having sex with a married older. man Willie Brown and then she was Montel. williams' side piece so it's like I'd.

love to know her actual perspective on. sexual politics is a little bit. different from maybe what she's saying. in public you know what I mean right. right I mean if there's one. anti-feminist in the state of California. it's Willie Brown right think although. he' very much loved to see himself as a. feminist no but me real life but he. would bring he would host these events. that featured only women and he would. talk about how these were great woman. empowerment summons I think they're.

known as ladies for one thing and second. like look I I like Willie Brown I'm not. attacking Brown I think he's hilarious. cuz I think he's a little bit more. honest but like very honest if there's. anybody whose life violates the. principles of second wave feminism it's. Willie Brown I mean hon honest I mean. really Willie Brown yeah right I think. that's even even Bill Clinton described. him the real slick. willly did he really say that yeah yeah.

oh that's so good now you're making me. like them both cuz I you know you just. like flashes of honesty wherever you. find them right Willie Brown was this. character in California politics that. couldn't be brought down by corruption. but he always he was always teasing and. joking about corruption yeah if you're. having sex with Willie Brown in order to. get a job you know whatever you can deal. with your own conscience and with your. own Hindu goddess on that you know but. you definitely can't lecture me on. feminism if you've done that I think. it's fair to say right I think so I.

think when you talk to women they would. they would agree with that statement. right you you you know you give up your. right you gain a lot you get to be. Attorney General of the State of. California and the US senator and vice. president but you you do give up your. right to lecture me about feminism right. is that fair I think a lot of women. would agree with that I think that's. right I'm just being I'm not judging I'm. sure but she she's not allowed to judge. either I guess that's what I'm saying. it's certainly not without evidence. right like that was the whole s you had. sex with Willie Brown to get a job so.

why don't you cool it on the feminism. stuff as you discussed with a previous. guess like it kicked off her entire. career course it did it wasn't just that. it was he you know Willie Brown gave her. positions of power on state boards gave. her that paid handsomely you know she. made up to $400,000 back in the 90s from. this say think about which positions uh. un now I'm being vulgar again. oh I yeah well yeah and then she made so.

she made about $400,000 over a couple. years just from these once a month state. board positions and that's like you. adjust that for today's dollars that's. like almost a million dollars oh yeah. and then bought her the key you know. bought her a BMW helped pay for her. wardrobe um really turned her into K. Harris so there are two ways to look at. this and as a charitable man who. instinctively likes women and likes kind. of Plucky up from the bootstrap stories.

I think you could tell that story in an. honest way that might make you admire KL. Harris here's this woman who doesn't. know anybody she's from. Canada you know she doesn't she's not. from the area really she's I think from. she was working at the Alam County. prosecut exactly right in in the East. Bay right and she winds up becoming. Attorney General of the bigest state and. she's willing to do whatever it takes to. get that including have sex with wiie. brown Monto Williams if you told the. story that way I'd say well you know.

morally it's. obviously Mal malodorous but on the. other hand this woman has a lot of um a. lot of energy she's focused she does. what it takes to get what she wants. exactly right and she's totally. self-made and I think Willie Brown. really opened her up to this world of. the possibilities for sure if you're a. young prosecutor at the age of 29 see. what's possible but being on the arm of.

Willie Brown you have sex with Willie. Brown why wouldn't you look at that and. say I can seiz this for myself as long. as I show up and demand it and Willie. Brown taught her how to do that he talks. about in his book like in order to get. into wealthy white worlds you force your. way into these positions of influence. like on museum boards and the Arts and. you know the Charities and you present. yourself as the this figure then they'll. welcome you into these worlds and.

they'll hoist you up onto these. political platforms but okay that's all. fine I get it I mean it's a form of. prostitution but I you know I try not to. judge all I'm saying is why would you be. self-righteous and scolding if like she. has no right to be self-righteous about. anything or scold anyone and she doesn't. need to by the way she could just I. don't know tell her story honestly and. people might say I would say I kind of. get it you know she made something out. of not much and I admire that why does.

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Bridge like you got nothing to do with. that right no right she's not from. Alabama right no no she definitely. uh embraced this agenda as her own and. embra embraced her her identity if. anybody questions her identity she's. just like I'm not even going to take the. time to discuss this with you with you. um if you have a problem with me being. black that's your problem being black oh. so black oh it's hilarious right and.

when you talk to black women in in. politics like they know but they also. see her as someone who could do the job. it's just so fake so she did uh Brett. Bear show the other night right it's the. first interview I've ever seen where. after the interview everyone tells you. ignore all the substance of everything. she said and focus only on the style all. of her Defenders are like focusing on. the style like wow just the fact she.

that she did this interview she won. whereas what do an interview with Brett. bear that's a wi I mean it's all so. stupid but what I I didn't read any of. the coverage of it because it you know. the lesson was obvious for me I didn't. need to be told what the lesson was but. I I was really struck by how angry and. touchy she was Defensive she was nasty. she was skilless she was you've seen a. million of her interviews is she always. is that a theme that you've noticed in. the past this is something that was very.

much a product that sort of boost her on. the public stage which is why she's. trying to repeat it you know she had a. better than expected debate against. Donald Trump because she was able to. tangle with him and demonstrate that. thought she did toe toe pretty good job. not bad right she she needed that the. opposition Force to campaign against. like she needs Trump if she doesn't have. Trump what does she have and so I think. that that was part of the calculus of. doing the Fox news interview is like if.

I can just go against something and if I. can just stand tall and get in a fight. with Brett Bear then I look better by. comparison look like a total I. mean that was just my view I mean I. don't know maybe I'm completely out of. it I you know nothing to do with her. gender she just was like screechy and. defensive and. mad is she you seen other interviews. like that with her is that how she. always is it's very interesting because. and I talk about this in the book a lot. is this when she was sort of this like.

Democratic champion in the Senate where. she was known for repeatedly fighting. and getting angry and and doing her. utmost to you know Crush Kavanagh I. think she realized at some point that if. I'm going to run for president I need to. like be sort of a little more than just. this opposing Force I need to have an. idea an identity that. attracts Americans to vote for me for. president and so that's when she. introduces this concept of a joyful. Warrior she makes a hard pivot away from.

the fighter and goes on Ellen and. delivers this elegant Soliloquy about. the importance of being a joyful Warrior. about loving your country and fighting. for your country and not being angry all. the time she had multiple interviews. where she's like I'm tired of being mad. all the time and I want to be a joyful. Warrior did she use the phrase joyful. Warrior repeatedly repeatedly um on. Ellen and magazine profiles she. completely and this is this is actually.

before Kavanagh because she has this. reputation of being a fighter in the. Senate then she pivots to be a joyful. Warrior around. 2018 then she pivots back to the. vengeful Warrior when she's fighting. Kavanagh and then by the time she's. ready to announce her campaign for. president in 2019 early 2019 she sort of. pivots back to this idea that I'm a. joyful Warrior and all I care about is. speaking TR joyful did so you've looked. pretty closely at her life you just. wrote a book about her how many.

instances did you stumble across of Joy. true genuine Joy very hard to find very. hard to find she's very guarded she's. very guarded she's a very private person. and she's uncomfortable talking about. herself she talks about it all the time. she's like I'm just not comfortable. talking about myself but she never stops. talking about herself I notice except in. the specific ways like being raised in a. middle class family being the product of. her community being what community is. she talking about right the San.

Francisco Community but she's from. Canada right like what the hell is talk. as a politician when she's talking about. the community she's talking about her. childhood community that she grew up in. leaving the Canada part out entirely and. then just pretending she's always been. from Oakland which she's actually from. Berkeley but she doesn't like to talk. about. it yeah I mean what yeah I am from that. area so so I know it well and there are. like no black people there I don't even.

know what she's talking about in in San. Francisco no there's like one and a half. black neighborhoods tiny percentage of. the population I think she is the. daughter of an academic Elite right her. father and mother too right right her. father and mother were sort of hard-left. academics they were not necessarily the. marching and shouters I mean I'm sure. they went to a few protests but they. were very much intellectual IST they're. very can I ask is um her father attacked.

her at one point didn't he right and. this is for using her Jamaican identity. to sort of defend the idea of smoking. weed legalizing weed yeah he was. horrified by that it's the rare occasion. where he just without permission went. out and wrote an angry ESS essay you. know explicitly saying I wish I wish I. wish to categor you know categor Ally. disassociate myself from this brand that.

she's selling of her Jamaican Heritage. being the reason why she supports. legalized. marijuana yeah because I mean if you. actually are Jamaican the idea that. everyone in Jamaica's you know Peter TSH. is offensive offensive right he was very. angry by that so she doesn't get along. with him then clearly no no and he is he. forced to take that actually he lives in. Washington DC what yeah Harris's father. lives in Washington DC the father who. denounced her right what does he do.

what's this tell me that story why. haven't I heard that yeah um we had some. reporters from The Daily Mail which is. where I work and uh they sort of tracked. him down and he does actually live in a. house not too far away from KLA Harris. and it does not look like they spend a. lot of time together if at all I think. the last time he posted photos of an. adult KLA Harris and him together were. from many years ago before she came to. Washington and he does a lot of work. with uh economics and Jamaica and the. World Bank I don't but he's also.

semi-retired at this point so yeah he's. just kind of this figure that exists in. DC but has no close connection with his. daughter has he ever talked about her. other than to write an OP at attacking. her he wrote in a a brief piece about. his Jamaican Heritage and how conell. Harris was connected to that uh he wrote. that for a Jamaican newspaper where he. talks about his life and you know having. KLA at a young age and then you know. becoming distance and it eventually.

estranged entirely from. her um yeah it's a very sad story he. talks he writes in his book his book. about you know Marxist economics he. talks about you know this book is. dedicated to my daughters K and Maya and. I from whatever relationship we have. like it's a little bit of a sad story. because it seems like he was kind of. pushed out of the family's life entirely. after after quite some time. yeah um I mean he wasn't at any of her.

Victory parties for her political races. he did not attend her inauguration kamla. never personally invited him to an. inauguration I think the times did a. story a couple weeks ago that said. somehow he got an invitation through an. intermediary but he was never asked. personally to come by his daughter ouch. yeah yeah women who are mad at their. dads you know tend to um not all but a. lot of them end up at wearing pink hats. at Women's marches and in general if.

you're a father and your daughter grows. up to be a manher it's probably kind of. your fault I think right fair you sort. of take on that responsibility you know. well yeah kind you know that it's your. your fault right if you don't have a. relationship with your daughter then. that's kind of your fault yeah if she's. running around promoting abortion right. should occasion some soul searching on. your part I would say but um as as a. father of daughter I can say that but um. so anyway as she comes to DC speaking of.

relationships how and she's chosen by. Joe Biden who was promised America to. give us what we really want which was a. female black vice president well they. totally rejected it during the campaign. when her failed presidential campaign. when she thought she she was launching. this. historic future forward looking campaign. in 2019 in January of 2019 when she. announces her run for. president um um it doesn't go well and. it and it it goes really badly and I'm.

sorry to elide right right over that so. she announces how long does she run for. president I can't she's one of the first. out of the gate she has all the support. from many of the donors many of the. major media Elites you know she has this. moment with people like Rachel mat who. says you know I do think that you are. one of our strongest candidates and I do. think that you're going to make it to. the final finishing line it's really an. an impressive effort by the elite in the. entire party. they want to see con Harris succeed and. they're very bullish about her chances.

when she gets into the race it's such a. funny funny race so the the the. candidate the Democrats really want is. the Socialists but he criticizes the. banks so he cannot be allowed to be the. nominee because you can't criticize. Banks right that's immoral criticizing. Banking and we're a little squeamish. about you Universal healthc care right. but K Harris we don't actually want to. give Democratic voters anything they. really want right so when she runs as. this uh you know she moves herself so.

far to the left right before she runs. for president she's become this like. radical leftist candidate even more. radical than Bernie Sanders himself she. endorses Medicare for all but when she's. up on the debate stage and they're like. but if you have Medicare for all and. this means getting rid of private. healthare and she's like that's right I. agree and then when she gets enormous. push back media. coverage the health insurance. industry uh then she walks it back and. says well actually I don't mean that um.

I'm sure private insurance will still be. around and I want it to be around even. though there is socialized Healthcare. well that's not really how it works but. if you if you you know can pivot quickly. to say that and then she makes the same. mistake again and this is when you know. you obviously have a Core Democratic. party that wants to see you as like this. leftist Champion Like Bernie Sanders is. right right con Harris really wants to. be that figure and is doing her most.

desperate attempt to win sort of the. Bernie Sanders mantle but the Bernie. Sanders supporters are very angry with. her for even pretending to be a. socialist Democratic Socialist right. because she's not and so I think that. there was a very well she's a tool of. the banks right and the neocons and. every other sort of evil institution and. Democratic Party Land well she's willing. to do the bidding of anybody who can get. her in power she's not she was never. known in California as someone who was. you know she talks about this we keep.

going back I'm sorry but uh she talks. how much about how she fought the big. Banks to win this massive mortgage. settlement after after the disastrous. 2008 crash yeah um but yeah it what she. didn't lead the charge it was led by. Eric Schneiderman from New York who sort. of rallied any Progressive Attorney. General of a state many who have gone on. to have successful political careers and. be like this is our moment if we fight. the big Banks and earn a bigger.

settlement then we are automatically. seen as Champions and so she fought the. big Banks and got a bigger settlement. but she still settled and well she's a. tool of the rich I me has been always. the the banking industry the abortion. industry the War Industry it she's she's. a little foot soldier for industry I. mean that's she always has been right. right an activists have all been very. frust with her unwillingness to take. risks until she's running for president. and then she's suddenly for.

everything she's for reducing red meat. consumption she's for banning plastic. straws she's for decriminalizing. prostitution despite her mixed record on. that she's for legalizing. marijuana um she just totally pivots and. becomes this this figure who supports. every single radical agenda item during. the Democratic primary and yet well that. makes sense as a feminist cuz if. obviously if you're for women you want.

to encourage them to sell their bodies. like slaves right right yeah and. apparently this is you go on you know. black media to sell this as as something. you want something about Freedom we need. we need what you need is. decriminalization of prostitution and. and abortion to make weed kill your. children and smoke more weed and that's. about Freedom that's about success. that's that's the that's the opp. opportunity economy that we want to sell. yeah that's the agenda of the Goddess.

um so her her presidential campaign. despite a vigorous. endorsement from white ladies like. Rachel mattow crashes and burns like. right the dogs won't eat the dog food. correct right she goes to Iowa once she. hits Iowa her whole life she's lived in. a in a one party state California and. the idea there is to get the backing of. the elites the donors. and then raise enough money to just. plaster the air with advertising right.

then you win and as long as you have the. blasing of the elites then you can. pretty much win in California you don't. have to necessarily go on the ground and. convince voters um you just need those. three things and so she goes into this. Primary in Iowa with sort of the the. same Focus right win the blessing of the. elites raise a bunch of money run all. the advertisements and then when she. hits the ground in Iowa she suddenly. finds that Democrats are not they're.

they're willing to listen but when they. listen to her they're not satisfied with. what they're hearing they see her on the. debate stages making the case for all. these Progressive policies but then when. she's asked to defend them she's either. walking back or changing her mind on. these issues on top of it all in the. beginning very beginning of her campaign. is when the Jesse the Jesse smallet. stuff breaks and that's when she sort of. rushes to his defense and is is the. first candidate sort of leading the. March for justice for. Jesse so she sends out a tweet wait hold.

on stop stop stop Jo so here you are. making fun of her she's totally fake but. in one sense she is a legitimate Pioneer. she was the first across the not the. Edmund Pettis bridge but the Jesse. smallet Bridge like she was there facing. off the guard dogs and fire hoses on. behalf of Jesse Smet right right she was. lead she led the entire democratic. primary field to defend Jesse small and.

then she still hasn't apologized for. that by the way still hasn't taken down. the she is in some sense a civil rights. hero if you Define civil rights as like. fake hate crimes right yeah right so uh. and she's never apologized for that no. she's never apologized for it she. expressed regret that it happened but. she never apologized for was it passive. constructive construction like that it. happened yeah yeah this is not. com this is not good for people who have. real hate crimes so but she still has.

the Tweet defending him as one of the. smartest that's still up just like her. you know the the famous Minnesota. bailout of the protesters in Minneapolis. yeah yeah that's still alive too so. she's not she's not one to apologize. very much I don't know happens with a. lot of politicians certainly Joe Biden. doesn't like to apologize for anything. yeah it's it's so telling whereas you. know if you want to be strong apology is. the only way right and people saw her as. like the anti-biden so when she first.

goes out on the debate stage and. basically calls him a racist when they. ask him about the accusations of women. of unwanted touching and groping she. says I believe all women and they have. the right to say that so she's one of. the first ones to sort of tackle Biden. as this outof touch dinosaur who no. longer belongs on the national stage she. said as much during the debate you know. trying to be nice not calling you a. racist but let me call you a racist. that's if essentially what she said.

because he wasn't enthusiastic enough. about. busing yeah they she pulled that from. Biden's past but at the same time he's. out there talking about the good old. days when he worked with segregationists. and everybody got along and certainly. the modern lefts was like well you can't. do that we don't want that we don't want. Joe Biden busing was a disaster it. didn't help anybody it crushed white. kids it crushed black kids it destroyed. public schools in the United States. I'd love to hear someone explain why. busing was a good idea right in what.

sense was it a good idea like how where. did that work exactly and give me the. numbers to show that it worked it didn't. work it was horrible and the people who. promoted it sent their own children to. private school so like I I don't know. the fact that she got up there on stage. and yelled at Biden who's a pig I'm not. defending Biden but like the one place. he's been writing in his career was to. oppose busing busing was immoral as hell. and nobody called her on it it was weird. what was weird is that she was. projecting herself as somehow this.

victim of segregation and and suffrage. growing up in Berkeley California and. growing up in Montreal I mean that's. where she went to high school that's. where she went to high school was there. a lot of segregation that little girl. was me you know talking about riding the. bus from one wealthy California Enclave. to another right it's and trying to. embrace this idea that she was somehow. this great civil rights figure it was. rather offensive to a lot of black. people who were just like it's just. insane what about white people I mean. the whole thing is nuts the idea that.

whatever without even getting into. busing but I would just love to hear. someone defend busing on its own terms. like where was busing a success who. benefited from it exactly right and when. they asked her well what's your position. on busing she she found herself unable. to explain yeah and they really like. well what why are we talking about. busing anyway right it was just it was. it was an attempt to just find any cudle. at all to hit Joe bid no it's totally. right it made a big. did she really say that why are we. talking about it in the first place no. that's what I'm saying but she did when.

they asked her for her position on. busing she's like well I don't know like. she didn't have a good answer of what. how whether or not she would support. Federal. busing gosh this is really you don't. have to it was such an obvious political. attack well but you don't even need to. try that hard to expose her she exposes. herself it's also fake a lot of bad. things going on in the world that. honestly not many of us can have an. effect on Rising crime failing schools a. tanking economy what can you do about.

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California did you ever find evidence. that she was like had majority widely. accepted she won her elections pretty. handily except for the the One race she. had problems with was running through um. the district the Attorney General's race. there was a formidable Republican still. in the state Steve yeah who posed. a pretty big threat but did she when. I've often heard people say but I've. never checked it myself. that when she ran for president she did. not have anywhere near majority support.

in her own state right is that correct. that was the big problem is that she. thought she could use California as a. springboard like obviously they will. rally around me in California and pushed. me forward as the next great leader of. the of the democratic party but people. in California did not she was so low in. the polls in California she had to quit. before she got to the California primary. because they obviously favored Bernie. yeah well Bernie's not allowed because. the donors didn't like Bernie right. there there was that well and then the.

biggest I think the the moment that was. critical for her campaign she was still. kind of limping along even after the. Biden attack some people liked it some. people didn't and most you know more. more importantly the the people who are. really in charge of the party and who. was going to win were not happy with the. and I think that's kind of why she. pulled back like with Biden's record and. if you're a Democrat a young Rising. Democrat and if you really want to take. out Joe Biden if you go at him hard for.

about four or five months on his record. you can pretty much turn the entire I. think you could have turned the entire. party against him but because he was. sort of seen as maybe the only one who. could defeat Donald Trump I think that. there was a lot of force from The. Establishment Democratic party that's. like look just leave him alone he might. be what we need it's just crazy that the. anti-white party in the end nominated an. old straight white guy right blowing.

past a position of fear right the fake. black lady the gay guy who may not even. really be gay I don't really know but. the guy who claims he's gay anyway and. they pick you know a. 76y old straight white guy really with. all this baggage and history of. Democrats past right it's like yeah it's. just interesting so oh the moment that. if effectively ends her campaign as I. was saying is the moment that Tulsi. gabard had the courage to get on stage.

and call her out as a fake Progressive. yeah as a warmonger right and uh I think. that really deep sixed her campaign and. crushed her she was never able to. recover from that she there was several. attempts at reboots um you know at one. point standing for censorship of. President Trump on Twitter that somehow. she was GNA leverage her entire. political reboot on this idea of. censoring president Donald Trump or even. progressives Elizabeth Warren like what. are you doing how is that even legal. this doesn't even make any sense aren't.

she weren't she the Attorney General. you're supposed to be a I think you're. supposed to support Free Speech as part. of the Constitution yeah but at the same. time she she delivered a speech to the. NAACP that said I will increase the. number. of Attorneys at the Department of. Justice to go after hate speech and. misinformation on social media and these. social media companies better be very. afraid for what I want to do yeah don't. give up your we need to hold them. responsible for everything that's posted.

on their yeah for criticizing us it. shouldn't be allowed how do people like. that who weren't even meaningfully. attached to this country in any way or. understand what it is how do they get. positions of power I don't understand. like how could someone like KL Harris. who obviously doesn't like the United. States but doesn't even really. understand it like she gets to. administer our laws there's something. wrong with our system don't you think. right I think it's very much focused on. how can we find a willing participant to.

do everything we say and say and be. willing to be flexible on a number of. different issues someone who doesn't. have any core values is easier to manip. easier to manipulate yeah and I think. that they saw her as somebody which is. part of the reason why they chose her as. vice president this is someone who. obviously has the support of the biggest. donors who also has been out in the. streets during the George Floyd protests. um you know backing the idea of these. protests and what better person to be.

President Biden's running mate than the. person who accused him of being a racist. than the lady from the HR department. which is what she really is bring her. into and that's sort of what she that. was sort of how she leveraged her way. into the front of the pack right it was. during the entire black lives matter. George Floyd protests of 2020 that tore. up the entire country and and I think. that many in the Democratic party. thought that she was necessary to tack. on to Biden who clearly had his problems.

during the debates on is on black issues. you know suggesting to to black families. that if they didn't play the record. player at night they're raising their. children wrong and telling all these. bizarre stories of you know. relationships with black people and were. just totally out of touch so I I do. think they felt that they needed to put. the Obama Coalition back together in if. he was going to have a chance of winning. and in order to do that you need a. person of color on the ticket yeah I.

think that's like the um rich white. liberal way of understanding black. people and I bet you money that Biden in. the end will wind up doing better with. black voters than K Harris I bet you I. bet you money I mean I'm off it clearly. was in South Carolina right when he won. all the black vote in South Carolina. well yeah because of Jim. curn. he became the nominee after South. Carolina and they found out that you. know black people actually like him and.

will vote for him then it was like time. to clear the field and I get that and I. bet you he was the vice president for. the first black president and well yeah. but he's just also he he's a little bit. slightly more authentic than her like. she's so obviously fake right but what. do I know. um I do know that she's Rachel. maddow's version of a black candidate. you know what I mean but anyway um so. okay so she gets chosen by Biden was.

there any J my memory real contest where. there are other people under. consideration right because he famously. came out when he's trying to seal the. deal with Bernie he comes out during a. debate in the spring saying I will. choose a woman vice president and got a. little splash nobody remembers the. substance of the debate just that. headline right yeah and then it became. you know as he's exploring the idea like. who that there's a number of women he. really liked but certainly um on the top. of the list were some of these sort.

of um these figures like ketchen Whitmer. of Michigan who he felt was kind of this. this fun Rising power in Michigan who. was kind of populist when she ran for. office and kind of had this idea of. fixing the damn roads you know that's. just music to the ears of this this. future president that just wants to fix. in infrastructure that's one of his. biggest issues so he's certainly. attracted by her Amy kachar was also. someone else that he was interested in. bringing on board someone who he thought.

would be good but it became very clear. that and in certainly his campaign. advisers as well um believe that no it's. not just enough to have a woman on the. ticket we need a woman of color on the. ticket because if you look back at. Hillary Clinton she lost a lot of the. black vote because she CH of color by. the way right it's uh dependent on the. people that vote for Democrats right a. big part of their so I feel like he.

really wanted to pick a Gretchen Whitmer. or an Amy. kajar and certainly the Biden family was. not happy with the idea of kamla Harris. as vice president he's the she's the one. that actually came out and attacked him. for being a racist so when it became. clear if you remember Hillary Clinton. she chose Tim Kaine who one of the most. vable people in the Senate as her. running mate and she also lost a lot of. the black votes so the smart people. consultants in Washington are saying the.

times demand that we choose a woman of. color a black woman they are the dumbest. people I've ever met um so Biden looks. at. this these options and he. has on his top of the list as he's. heading into it it's KLA Harris Susan. Rice who he has a good relationship with. from his time in the Biden. Administration or in the Obama. Administration. and. um so those are sort of his top two. picks and the fact that Susan Rice is.

even being considered seriously shows. that she was that you know they do not. want KLA Susan Rice was Jill's favorite. but ultimately between his conversations. with his donors with his advisers and. certainly with Obama himself he was. urged to sort of put the past behind him. and choose KLA Harrison so it's I know. Susan race pretty well and I think she's. a scary person who who's motivated. basically by hate but she's capable.

she's a real person right Comm is not a. real person it's totally fraudulent just. Dei pick but Susan Rice is not and Susan. Rice is a pretty serious person and like. if you had it might have been difficult. to run a campaign with Susan Rice right. I she may I've always been kind of. impressed by Susan Rice even though I. fear Susan Rice and I think I don't. think she's a particularly good person. but I I definitely have some respect for. Susan Rice um she was my neighbor for.

years oh really yeah I you know for for. any conservative they would see Susan. Rice as the face of Benghazi and why. would you ever want that well the whole. Benghazi story was in the first. place and the amount of Lying by. conservative media about Benghazi. enrages me the point of Benghazi was. they were moving weapons from qaddafi's. weapon stockpiles to Syria to fight an. undeclared war that only hurt the United. States and those a lot of those weapons.

are going to Islamic extremist groups. and that was the actual story and that. was suppressed because the neocons. didn't want to talk about that wow and I. just sat in in Rage for years watching. this Beng I mean the Benghazi story was. real right people died the reason true. tragedy but no one was allowed to ask. like what were all those CI officers. doing in Benghazi in the first place. there was I think it was Rand Paul who. was sort of the only one who did you. ever hear anyone ask like what was that. wait wait a second okay yeah fascinating.

just as someone from DC I'm like wait a. second why were there that many CIA. Personnel in this one town huh and I. remember asking that myself on. television and having a producer say to. me that's not really the story and I was. like well actually think it is the story. it's part of the story anyway it's the. context of the story right sorry I've. been mad about this for a decade no I'm. I'm only saying that I'm not Susan Rice. right I'm not endorsing anything that. Susan Rice has ever done I think Susan. Rice is one of the reasons that the.

country is so screwed up right now all. I'm saying is if your job is to run the. government you don't want to pick. someone. who's like pathetic like KL Harris who's. not done a single thing in her entire. life right and is just clearly not a. capable person can't make a decision. doesn't have a Clear Vision doesn't have. much experience had never done anything. like even Obama delivered a great speech. that everybody thought was. the the nation Talent he was a figure.

right Comm Harris was never a figure. exactly and uh I mean Susan they really. wanted her to be they they started by. calling her the it's just your classic. rich white liberal view of the world it. only all that matters is your skin color. right it's not so different from the. segregationist view of the world which. they also supported you know their. parents supported in the Democratic. party it's just like all it matters is. what color you are anyway whatever don't. get me going but um okay so they pick. her what's her relation you say Jill.

Biden was actually for Susan Rice right. what is the relationship between K and. the bidens when she gets chosen so I. really think that Joe Biden felt that he. could that kamla would be his buddy he. really wanted a buddy vice president and. he really thought KLA could rise to the. occasion and learn how to be a good vice. president because he had a vice. president he knew what it took for. everything you can say about Joe Biden.

he was very deferential to the president. and he was very loyal to him and worked. very hard like Obama's not sort of uh a. warm glowing figure that wants to be. friends with everybody and but Biden. sort of wormed his way into a buddy type. relationship with Obama and they. actually got along pretty well when they. were in office despite you know obvious. frictions between the two camps that. always happens but I think that he. thought that KLA Harris would sort of.

drop everything and become wholly United. to his vision and his campaign but they. found out very soon after they took. office that no Comm Harris had no. interest in being Joe Biden's buddy had. no interest in taking hard issues off. his plate or defending him I think it. was very clear from the moment she got. into office she was here for the next. step in her career and she was going. going to do everything possible to sort. of preserve her political future and not. waste it on this aging Joe Biden who is.

clearly on his way out niely put Char. wait so you're saying that Joe Biden. picked a ruthless careerist loyal to no. one but herself and was shocked to. discover that she was a ruthless. careerist loyal to no one but herself. and someone who was not. competent and she's. dumb wow do you think they were really. surprised by that I think so I think I. think Biden really thought that she. would rise to the occasion and and. realize the nature of the job well he.

was seeni then huh yeah I guess so um. but yeah it became very clear that she. was not there to help him she was there. to the next step in her career and she. kind of has this kind of has this. this this kind of aspect goes back. throughout her entire career right she. she Rises with Willie Brown and then. when brown leaves office she kicks him. under the bus um basically saying if he. commits any crimes I'm going to throw.

him in jail and sort of kicks him under. the bus as someone that's no longer. politically relevant right she said that. yeah when she's running for district. attorney everyone that's all people. wanted to talk about this is this is the. woman who dated Willie Brown she's. obviously corrupt and she's like no. Willie Brown I'm done with him he has no. influence on me even though he's behind. the scenes raising money for her she. essentially throws Willie Brown under. the bus I don't think it's a good idea. to date KL Harris that's that's the. picture that's emerging right right do.

you agree with that certainly not in her. early career no and she didn't. eventually I just want people listening. to this to remember do not date KLA. Harris unless you're Doug mhof and then. perhaps you can get remarried to a. 50-year-old woman and uh who's has a. career path into National politics he's. pretty tough on the Le though I mean he. he runs a tight ship he he'll smack. he'll smack you in the valet line if you. get M there's been some great reporting.

at the Daily Mail about that s I'm. getting ahead of the St so so so Joe. Biden right thinks that KLA Harris is. going to be his little friend right his. little black friend actually his cool. black friend certainly a supportive. supportive a supportive Force to sort of. ease up all the attention he's getting. from women and and black people maybe. will help. yeah yeah so um he really cuz Obama did.

this to Biden right he anytime he had a. thorny issue' be like I'm gonna put. Sheriff Joe in charge of this and he's. gonna take care of it and Biden realized. what Obama was doing but he just sort of. grin and be like yep I'm the vice. president this is what we do um. so right away the first thing for KLA. Harris it's like we need you to take a. thorny issue off our plate we're going. to put you in charge of. immigration and we all saw how that went. right and yeah she was very adamant. about I'm not in charge of immigration.

I'm not the immigrations are I'm only in. charge of root causes in the northern. triangle they very adamant about that. even correcting Joe Biden behind the. scenes when he's in Congress he's like. and commin is going to take care of the. immigration problem and she would be. like actually no Mr President I am only. handling the root causes of. immigration maybe it's my orcus or or. somebody else that's actually going to. handle the immigration problem for you. because that's not my job but you know.

now we have this whole thing like she. was never the borders are but she was in. charge of the messaging on. immigration when she made her trip to. Guatemala and told migrants do not come. if if you come I believe you will be. sent away well we all saw how effective. that messaging was so it's very clear. that the the administration really. wanted to take her to take this issue. off the plate to be the messenger on.

immigration and she sort of wriggled out. of that assignment ultimately you know. did she succeed any aspect of the root. causes I think they might have some. metrics to say she did but did she fix. Mexico she certainly didn't fix any root. causes as we know of it's also absurd um. and root causes is always a Dodge not. that there aren't root causes there are. but whenever you see a politician pivot. from well let's get to the the problem. to its root causes you realize that.

politician is just punting right yeah so. what was um in the. end Joe and Jill Biden's view of KLA. Harris disappointment I think I think. they really hoped she would rise to the. occasion well there's reporting done. that you know Joe Biden said that she. was work in progress just a two months. ago M he still believes that she. was making her way but probably hadn't.

risen and seized the the imaginations of. the American public as well as they had. hoped as being this sort of. transformational figure historic figure. right like how can you not just. instantly become an American icon yeah. but with k Harris it was a very big. struggle American. Icon certainly Obama was an American. icon right yeah but she's a member of. the master race so we have to worship. her but no that's not how it really. works and in the end if I can just.

restate the obvious Obama who I think. was evil and bad for America but he was. really talented MH and I don't think it. was cuz he was black he's just talented. no it was he was very talented and very. but it was people like Joe Biden who's. like wow you know he was the one on the. record you know it C him for being an. articulate black guy it just show. exactly it just shows how racist the the. rich white liberal is because all they. see in Obama is black and they're like.

oh we just get some black person in here. someone we can call Black that person. will become an American icon and it's. like no that's right you kind of have to. earn it right and imagine if you're Comm. Harris right you're brought into the. Democratic party as this as this this. transformational figure as this icon. you're they view you as the female Obama. it's very insulting right cuz I don't. it's so insulting it's insane but this. and this happened with tulsy too because. if you remember and I she's done a. number of great interviews with Rogan. with you um where she talks about how.

when she first got when she was first. elected to congress the Democratic party. immediately brings her into the higher. echelons of power not the important ones. right but the one Vice chair of the DNC. yeah bring her into these positions. because she's seen as this. obvious person that we need to Center. our agenda on to show how diverse and. how open we are to new personalities and. new people and how fresh and young and. interesting we are and the minute she.

diverts from the you know she talked. about this how she was celebrated by all. of course Democrats and the minute she. diverts from the agenda to warn about. war in Syria which is something she. profoundly believes in war she's been to. war she does not like War but the minute. she diverts from the agenda everyone's. like oh I'm so sorry your political. career is over over and now we're going. to ostra they never listened to what she. said I mean her views didn't change no.

she believed that when she got elected. from Hawaii but all they saw was the way. she looked right because they're racist. and they judge people on the basis of. their race that's the definition of. racist and they saw her and they're like. oh she's not white therefore she's great. and they never heard a word she uttered. even when she ran for president they. just ignored her they didn't well by. that they hated her because they they. finally picked up on the fact that she. was against their whole agenda. right but and she took out one of their.

star their star people well she's tough. and she's great she's genuinely shees in. things she's not fake tough Harris right. he's like on the verge of tears when. Brett Bayer asks her a question it's. like oh my gosh um so Jill Biden is very. famous in DC this is a product of my. reporting from living down the street. from her um as like a real is. someone who's you know tough and nasty. and I always had tough girl from Philly.

and she's on the record saying I am. willing to forget the attacks I will. never. forgive yeah I mean she's that I mean. that's certainly you know her reputation. in DC over the 35 years I lived in the. same city as her she was definitely. regarded as a so I always wondered. how did she get along with Comm Harris. now I don't think they ever got along I. think and it was very clear in events. they they say the things like we're so.

proud of you thank you K we love you. right uh when she was selected you know. Joe Biden was there to offer cookies and. pretend that everything's normal but. yeah you don't forget those kinds of. attacks against your husband and but. good for her by the way I'm on I'm on Dr. Jill's side on that one right like. you're obviously part of have been in. politics for a very long time so you're. used to people. attacking your husband and certainly. with Joe Biden he was attacked for he. always wanted to be president and he was.

always pushed aside by the elites so she. did have a chip on her shoulder yeah. Fair yeah and even Joe Biden himself I. mean when they finally reached this. position they are people who were. repeatedly Thrust out of the. conversation and pushed aside and mocked. and belittled until they needed him and. so oh but wait you get four years and. then it's time for you to go we're done. with you. so what h i mean this just happened this. summer yeah but it's maybe because it. did just happen it's hard to understand.

exactly what that was um what like what. do you think that was and did KLA Harris. have a role I assume she had a role in. pushing Biden out of course right the. official narrative is that you know she. woke up one morning and had pancakes and. bacon with her nieces and was working on. a puzzle and Joe Biden called her out of. the blue and said I'm getting out of the. race and and I'm going to endorse you. for president and then she jumped and. got on the phone and within 12 hours on.

the phone she wrapped up the entire. nomination that's the story that's the. official story is it actually yeah so. this is she single-handedly got on the. phone eating an chovi pizza and sweats. wearing her sweats and made enough phone. calls to where she could wrap up the. entire nomination in in a day so this is. the Soviet un offal they just tell lies. that are so absurd they know we're not. going to believe them but they don't. care they've actually I missed all this.

they that was a story they told sort of. the official. story well that's just Soviet I mean. that's just absolutely crazy yeah so but. we know for three weeks maybe four from. from after the debate in June to the day. that Joe Biden announced that he was. stepping down there was a furious amount. of activity behind the scenes Pelosi. Schumer and. and you know that K Harris has to. publicly backing Joe the whole way but.

what are her people doing behind the. scenes like is there no effort to sort. of make sure that you're being. considered come on to be the his Heir. which is your rightful position these. are politicians politics is what they do. right I mean that's why they got into. this that's how their brains work. there's people behind you who are. working of course like of course you can. claim to iability I was doing nothing. yeah there's people who support you who. T who will get power from you if you are. elected that are working on your behalf.

that just happens organically out out of. our political system right it's been. going on for. Generations so you have to imagine that. there was always going to be this this. idea that there might be an actual. convention where we go and choose the. candidate that we want there might be a. democratic process it's like a yeah like. a democratic process what do they call. it a brokered convention yeah or. democracy I think they call it I think. yeah something like that cuz it's so. fragile so very fragile but so very.

strong well it obviously doesn't exist. if your presidential candidate gets the. job without anyone voting on it then. that you don't have democracy right so I. think that Pelosi and people did want to. see a choice because they had hoped that. the strongest candidate would emerge I. think a lot of the reason why Biden ran. for re-election in the first place is. because he and many in the Democratic. party and certainly in. 2023 nobody thought that cona Harris. could.

win a race for president against Donald. Trump not even win a primary they just. didn't think she was ready right and. that's what's so fascinating like when I. published the. book a lot of what I was you know. reporting and researching was 23 and in. DC when they when was Washington DC had. thoroughly rejected her and we're even. having conversations of why not get rid. of her entirely on the ticket we need. somebody else if Joe Biden's going to. win again so that we went from there I.

mean Washington's cruel right you you. show up and you are not ready and you. make mistakes as she clearly did during. her first three three years and that's. pretty well chronicled then they turn on. you they don't see you as valuable and. they had officially most of Washington. thought she was a complete joke she. didn't have you know there's not like. these these Defenders or people who. actually want to see you succeed in. Washington they're all rooting for your. failure and they only respect you if you. prove them wrong and con Harris clearly.

wasn't proving them wrong at this point. in. 23 so when she's ultimately kept on the. ticket it's for obvious reasons like we. can't just kick her aside and and bring. Gretchen Whitmer in to save the day to. run with Joe Biden right it's tough yeah. it's tough you're you're beheld by the. same identity politics that you embraced. to get her to this position. oh. yes hung by your own petard yes that is. um I mean it was it was obvious this was.

going to happen I wasn't surprised at. all I was a little surprised um that she. picked Tim Walls if you want a gay guy. want to just go with Pete Buddha judge. what what was the thinking. there. um I don't know too much other than. what's been reported right it's just. that ultimately she selected Tim while. she had a prior relation ship in fact. Tim Walls first appeared on the campaign. Trail when she went to Minnesota to. visit a Planned Parenthood clinic for.

being the historic first vice president. to actually campaign at a planned. paranoid clinic at an abortion CL s. walls was right there cheering her on. kind of wholesome uplifting deal right. like this is what we're for these are. totally normal people right and so I. think that she met him there and at. various points in her career and found. him to be an entertaining figure what. able figure irating figure you know we. met at an abortion clinic and uh well. he's kind of fussy and bubbly and so I.

thought I would pick him yeah they. actually met at an abortion clinic I. don't know if that's the first time but. that was definitely a pivotal moment. right it was like this is don't know. what okay um wow I didn't know that. that's it's one of the first times you. see Tim Walls on camera which I didn't. recognize him at the time but going back. and looking at her speeches there he's. right behind her CL the whole time so I. you know you assess people by what they. do but also by their relationships who. are they close to mhm and in her case.

I'm looking at the men in her life and I. see well obviously Montel Williams and. Willie. Brown by know both of them um I like. them both better than the men currently. in her life but the men now in her life. would be her dad who is not in her life. not in her life writing an opet. attacking her not invited to her own. inaugural you see Tim walls who is you. know I guess her little gay friend or. whatever but creepy guy they hanging out. at abortion clinics together and then.

you see her. husband the nanny impregnator who. smacked a woman in the face um what is. that right when I did the reporting from. the book and and I certainly did not. pick up on this but in Washington at the. time he was widely celebrated widely. liked they really people in Washington. people in Washington DC really likeed. Doug mhof they thought he was this. gregarious fun character looks like it. loved being in power and was just like.

gol doing the best he could to back up. KLA Harris and he would go do all these. panels about how his number one job was. to you know defend this idea of of. having a strong woman in office well. they love the beta male and it's always. the beta male was punching women in the. face but whatever yeah but where did she. meet him unfortunate what is that they. met but right I think it was right as. she ran right after she won her second. term no it would have been in 2014 but.

right as she's getting ready to go. National and she talks about in her book. how it it wasn't easy to be a political. figure being a single woman talks about. how she was treated differently and how. it was a struggle so I do think. ultimately she you know I'm sure they. had a great dating relationship and that. they they found enough in common to. where they felt that you know it was. worth pursuing him you think she let him. smack her around I don't see that no. yeah I think Doug's been sufficiently.

tamed kept in his place yeah he's been. tamed by the despite all the reporting. of who Doug was before like he is. definitely been put in his place and. yeah and realizes his job and he's. enjoying the benefits of being a a man. who supports strong women and I think. that's why a lot of people I think that. was a step too far for a lot of the. people that spoke to the Daily male it's. like no you are not. this but they all are any male feminist. has probably hit a woman I mean that's.

the whole point of being a male feminist. is to hide the fact that you treat women. hi the fact that you're a monster right. 100% obviously um every woman knows that. by the way if you just ask a woman who. are the men to be afraid of is the one. who's always telling you how is that. right oh of yeah any man who describ. himself as a feminist is probably a. physical danger to you yeah for sure wow. I mean I'm I'm from California so I've. seen this my whole life and lived in. Washington DC for a very long time but. mhof um were did they like publicly date.

I I missed all this were they was it. well known that they were dating was he. a big political figure in California who. is he no he's an entertainment lawyer. yep and so he was connected by one of. kl's friends and I think that they ended. up together because obviously it's very. good in this time of your life to not be. a single person I think that's. especially if you're pursuing higher. office you don't want to be a single. person and you know um then you.

shouldn't be it's right and I'm not. saying this in a mean way just honestly. that kind of job is so hard if you're. not have somebody Corner oh I agree I. I'm not I'm I'm sympathetic to KLA. Harrison that way for sure sure and they. very much talk about Doug as being this. figure someone she can come home and. vent to and talk to. and um even though she made the decision. to go basically be the president when. he's at Soul cycle exercising with. friends and he doesn't find out until he.

gets back to his car no he admitt he. admitted being at Soul cycle with his. gay friends that's what he said and he. said he didn't find this real I mean how. could it not it. just I was where else would you be how. can you you like there there has to be. obvious evidence of that you wouldn't. make up that story it's just so. unbelievable imagine your saying that. when my wife got the nod that she was. going to run for president I was at Soul. cycle with my gay friends and I think he.

said that that's what he said and then. he said when I got back to my car I. picked up my phone and called her and. she said where the F have you been man. if one of my college roommates did. something like that I would call him up. and say what are you. thinking I'm sure like wouldn't you yeah. I would say what yeah you made it and. certain yeah I mean it seems like she. very much made the decision on her own. without you know time to think about it. with friends and family maybe they had. had this discussion beforehand that if.

it if she ever got the call she could. just go for it but doesn't S is there. most politicians like well I got to. think about it with friends and family. before I make no you got to talk to your. husband right your spouse yeah or your. wife right yeah not friends and family. your spouse the person you're married. right right and then your kids they. don't have kids she doesn't have kids. but but yeah then I guess your friends. and family but your spouse is the first. person at least have a phone call before. you accept it but we both should be on.

the same page or you're not really. married right well obviously this these. are obvious things to non-political. people it's not just KLA Harris she's. not the only one with fake marriage and. politics like most of them seem to have. those but um but I just want to say that. out loud because it is really sick it's. not normal and we should just. acknowledge that so we remember what. normal is normal is when you have a. marriage it's a partnership a. partnership where if you're going to. make a major life decision you talk it. over with your spouse that's my. experience well of course or else it's. not a real marriage right I mean is that.

the whole point of marriage I think so I. thought so right it is just say I'm not. very familiar with um sort of the. marriages that you're describing well. that's just a roommate situation um so. wow these stories came out in your paper. can you just describe for maybe people. haven't been reading the Daily Mail so. what are the stories that we what have. we learned about Doug mhof right um that. he had this relationship with this. pretty professional pretty successful.

female lawyer and that he struck her in. the face when they were at a public. event together and then afterwards he. kind of forced his way into her taxi. even after the incident and basically. was like well this is just the product. of of our relationship and you know this. woman is clearly very upset very um. frightened by what he's done but he. doesn't necessarily it's not let's.

there's no attempt to heal or it just. seems like it's the product of what. happened that night and he certainly. doesn't seem to repent it from that. certainly not publicly do you okay so. but he the bottom line is he was dating. a woman there in can France south of. France at the film festival but at some. AIDS event as I remember yeah and he. hits her in the face waiting out of. jealousy she says waiting for their car. in the Valley Line MH I think that's the.

allegation is is it real I mean it's. October of an election year do you. believe that's a real story certainly. like the evidence that we've gathered. and the fact the testimony you know the. evidence from that night is certainly. more real than any other accusation. we've heard about um a lot of men. politicians recently really um Can Can. you imagine if maybe somebody accused. Mike Pence of doing that right would. they would the media actually care about.

that I don't know um that's a whole. another Mike Pence is a whole another. story man I don't know what to think. there but um or any other no no of. course no I see your point that if if. the partisan positions were switched of. course they would if Donald Trump Jr was. slapping women in the face with that be. a big story really hard spinning her. around with his hand right so but when. you say test ony can you tell us what. that is you talked to other people who. are there well it wasn't my story at the. daily mail but but yeah the reporters.

who worked on the story and the editors. who worked on the story um spoke with a. lot of witnesses about what had happened. who recall that day the day that she. called them to tell them what happened. and this you know cor corroborated. evidence with evidence of the flight. ticket there's certainly enough there. and you had a great conversation with. Megan Kelly who came away you know Megan. Kelly is pretty a sharp lawyer right she. came away saying I she's very sharp she.

it was very interesting to hear her talk. about it and say you know I believe it. all because she's a experienced these. type of men that do these things and B. um knows enough to smell whether or not. a story is fake yeah it's I guess and. who does he go to to sort of Wipe It All. Away Joe scarber this NBC that is so. funny Joe scarber Jo Scaro like well. what about all this stuff and the Tablo. and and Doug mhof just looks him. straight in the eyes like we can't get.

distracted from our mission here oh so. mhof never denied it no I think his teen. did in some passive language but he. certainly hasn't personally so but. bottom line you're convinced and again. you work at the publication that ran. this story that this is a real person. mhm and your reporters oh I've heard. people say oh we know who this woman is. like if if the if the mainstream media. was actually concerned about validating.

the story they could pursue it yeah but. as is often the case when you have an. uncomfortable narrative in last days of. an. election you know I guess we didn't get. censored right and we didn't uh they. didn't call it Russian disinformation. and ban us from social media I think. they're trying to make it go. yeah of course which it will and the. fact that you're talking about it and. Megan Kelly is talking about it is very. inconvenient for their campaign yeah it. just it's look I I just want to be.

consistent however I don't like Doug M. Hoff's politics I feel sorry for him um. just because his life seems depressing. but I don't like his politics but I also. know that there have been a lot of. people whose politics I also don't like. who've been destroyed by false. accusations of sexual harassment. physical abuse like there's a lot of. falseness around me too claims including. people I know and um had one of them on.

the other day Mark alprin and so I just. I just want to be fair right and I'm. also really uncomfortable with any. accusation from an anonymous source. against someone we name like so we we. name the person who's been accused but. we don't name the accuser I just want to. say for the record I think that's. immoral I don't think we should have. Anonymous accusations but whatever it's. seems very common now but I just want to. make sure that that. um so you believe this they know who. this is and this seems like a real thing. right I I do believe it and when you.

have multiple Witnesses they're willing. to say something means that they're. deeply upset by what happened and not. only that they're deeply upset by the. person he's being betrayed It's Like A. Champion happen Witnesses you had you. interviewed your paper interviewed. Witnesses who saw it happen I think they. were Witnesses who were there who the. woman talked to right W the woman who. you know this isn't uh this isn't you. know we can't be too Cavalier but this. isn't a Christian Christine blasy Ford. accusation this is something where. multiple people are and it was wasn't 40.

years ago right this is something that. happened very recently amazing do you. think that story has penetrated it all. well certainly you and Megan have talked. about a lot B yeah has and Donald Trump. made a joke about it well not about the. violence story but he made a joke about. the nanny story during so that story is. that mhof impregnated is Nanny right and. that that just seems like a fact he. actually addressed it and said that yes. it. happened huh.

um it has kamla resp said anything about. it no. no and it's very it's one of those. stories right you don't ask about that. if you ever want to get an interview. with KL Harris again that's not. something you bring up right so. certainly a lot of media figures aren't. interested in asking about that. story how do you assess the coverage of. her just kind of meta question here as a. reporter as someone who's really tried. to cover KLA Harris yeah that's what.

I've kind of you know because I remember. Obama and I remember how the media was. how they acted during the Obama. Administration and if they had actually. held him accountable on a few things. then it might have gone better yeah I. think as a journalist you kind of want. to just hold people accountable and. puncture through like the false. narratives reveal who they really are. kind of expose their weaknesses yeah. warn the American people like this is.

the type of person that you would vote. for yeah this is how they act behind the. scenes this is who they really are. they're we're not going to let the. politician tell their own story that's. not good for America that's not good for. democracy you have to know the full. story and you have to have impartial. people looking into it but you but kamla. Harris as a hero of the civil rights. movement has a story has exclusive. rights to her own story right you don't. get to tell her story right and you can. write your book every politician writes. a book before they run for a higher.

office look at Ronda santis he published. a book telling his whole story yeah but. we don't just take the biography and run. with it as as the next American Icon. they have to earn that and certainly. well we get to we get to ask questions. don't we that's our that's what we like. to do I. think actually uncover interesting. things about people that yeah and paint. a bigger portrait than just the one. that's on their campaign ad their. campaign slogan so I do I do find that. very rewarding I think every journalist.

should find that rewarding like who is. the real kamla Harris what does she. believe in turns out not much um if. there's any issue she's never changed. her position on or one issue she. actually cares about and can speak. passionately about its abortion I think. that's her number one why do you think. she's so this someone who never had. children I'm not attacking her I feel. sorry for her children are a source of. Joy really the only enduring source of. Joy so um speaking of Joy so I'm I'm. definitely not attacking her for that at.

all I feel really bad for her but why. but it's just interesting that someone. who never had kids would be so committed. to abortion like what do you think that. is yeah I'm not sure um it's it's. obviously something that she has dealt. with she's obviously had people in her. life and who have dealt with has she had. an abortion has anyone asked her she's. never publicly said anything about it. she's constantly talking about other. people's abortions and abortion abortion. abortion abortion why is it out of. bounds to say hey have you had an.

abortion right because if you had you. would certainly expect that you would be. this you would Champion that moment. since it's the expression of human. Freedom if if I'm running around talking. about how we need you know subsidized. appendectomies then I think it's fair to. say have you ever had an appendectomy. right if there's nothing to be ashamed. of then why does nobody ask her I don't. get the I don't you know I'm kind of. sick of playing along with all this. stuff I say all these weird tabos that. only serve one political party where. there's some things you're supposed to. talk about but only in a certain way.

other things you're never allowed to. talk about certain people have a right. to tell their own story other people who. have no right to talk at all like I'm. just who makes these rules and why are. we playing along with them right has any. pro-choice woman who is in political. office shared her experience of having. an abortion yeah I mean I really just. for the record don't want to hear about. other people's abortions or abortion at. all it's killing it's. is the act of ultimate human freedom and. you and you campaign on this they're the. ones who talking about it constantly so. maybe maybe you would consider that this.

would be but if Brett Bear had said to. her the other night um you know Madam. vice president have you you talk about. aboron have you ever had one I mean I. think he would have been fired from his. job for saying that and he certainly. would become instantly a villain and you. would wonder like why why if there's. nothing wrong with abortion if you're. supposed to shout your abortion or like. Tim Walls is very obviously gay I look. at him I'm like well you're gay and I'm. sure I'll be attacked for saying that. maybe he's not gay but he certainly.

seems gay right they immediately say. where's your evidence I don't have any. evidence I'm just saying the guy looks. super super gay to me but they're the. ones always running around being like. it's great to be gay okay if it's great. to be gay then why is it an attack on. him for me to say that and why would it. be out of bounds to be like hey Tim. Walls you seem super gay are you gay. have you ever suck with dudes like if. you ask that question you would you'd be. fir from job you're just asking that now. it's very controversial right but why. would that be controversial there's. nothing wrong with it then why is it so.

offensive to ask that question I don't. like this doesn't make any sense I think. ultimately Democrats feel like these. issues are very private which is why. they campaign so strong they're so. private really you've got a a. LGBT Q Plus parade in San Francisco New. York Seattle every big city in the. country people having sex in the street. so it's not private right they're. telling my kids constantly that it's a. good thing so there's nothing private or. forbidden or taboo about it now right. just to be clear those then you have.

wall like keep the hell out of my. bedroom we are the we party of privacy. but if there's nothing wrong with being. gay which is certainly a position in. fact it's morally Superior to being. heterosexual obviously they say that in. effect if the state Department's pushing. it on every country around the world. then why would it be somehow crazy or. out of bounds or taboo or offensive for. me to say to Tim Walls you seem gay it's. not an attack right are you. gay what but you know as well as I do.

that if I had an employer which I don't. I would immediately be fired for saying. right so like what is that that doesn't. make any sense and why are we playing. along with it that's my that's my point. yeah I'm not going to ask that. question and by the way I wouldn't. either because I don't really want to. know about Tim walls' sex life I don't. want to know about anyone's sex life I. want to stop talking about our sex lives. actually immediately and I want theate. Department to stop forcing other people. in other countries to talk about their.

sex lives I just want to declare a truce. on race and sex and abortion I don't. want to hear about your abortion all I. don't want you to talk about abortion. shut up about abortion about your sex. life about your race that's the world. that I want to live in but they're not. allowing me to live in that world so as. long as they're not allowing me to live. in that world why am I playing along. with rules that are rigged against me. right these are fair questions right so. why don't you ask Tim why don't you ask. Tim Walls that. question about abortion no no just say.

hey Tim Walls you seem gay not attacking. you but I've seen the video of you doing. jazz hands yeah are you gay have you. ever had sex with a man I don't know if. I would I don't know if I would have. enough evidence to make that question. say just like that it just seems that. way it's kind of my impression yeah are. you gay would but that would that would. go badly for you wouldn't it right I. would never I would never ask that. question not all of us have the the. freedom to ask that question or the same.

like interest in that question I don't. have any interest in it he's the one. who's constantly he's the one who ran a. gay straight Alliance where he's talking. to Children about their sex lives so. right there that's a criminal offense in. my book you don't get to talk to other. people's kids about their sex lives. period freak right but there he's. bragging about it okay you know why am I. barking at you Charlie don't mean to. bark at you just I don't know just. trying to be rational for a second yeah. it makes sense you know when you when.

you look at the what our media has. become and when you wonder when you look. at the questions that they ask when they. get the privilege you know interviewing. a presidential candidate is now a. privilege bestowed on you and you have. to demonstrate that you're worthy on a. number of issues right the first person. that got an interview with kamla Harris. was the woman from MSNBC who publicly. said she didn't need to do interviews. and then suddenly she gets an interview. so that's what our that's what our media.

has become right so you're you're. filling me in on so much that I've. missed who at MSNBC said that KL Harris. didn't need to do anything Stephanie. rule Stephanie rule she was on Bill M. and said K Harris doesn't need to do. interviews because she it's so obvious. that Donald Trump is the worst and that. she's the best I mean I'm paraphrasing. but rule the perky business reporter. from MSNBC yeah she was a business. reporter last I checked I think so yeah. yeah I mean she was the first one to ask.

she was the first one to get a major. well I guess Dana Bash got the first one. right with uh Tim Walls and K Harris but. Stephanie Ru got the first solo sitdown. with k Harris I think that's true and. yeah she publicly said on Bill Mah that. why does she even need to do media when. it's very obvious that she's the best. candidate compared to Trump. wow that's crazy right she's just so.

great we don't need to talk to her. that's our position as journalists right. that's the and she's the one who got the. first interview right I think it's. because I think Donald Trump said. something nasty about her so that. obviously about Stephanie rule right. which is why you instantly get. elevated I don't know Stephanie rule we. did not overlap I I once worked there. um MH she's got on camera but I I. haven't seen her on TV in a long time. cuz I don't have a TV but right she uh. free I well I am kind of free but I have.

some Miss stuff so I'm grateful that. you're filling me in that's amazing that. she said that yeah hm so I'm I just want. to boil it down and these are just my. perceptions and you can obviously. disagree but I don't think you're likely. to get a KL Harris interview Hope. Springs. [Music]. Eternal no that's very true she has. uh it's been reported that she has an. enemy list of reporters because she's. very thin skinned when it comes to. coverage she hates anything poorly.

written and I think one of the biggest. examples of that was when she was very. angry with the Vogue cover that came out. after she won the vice presidency she. was very displeased with this Vogue. cover of her standing there in her. Chucks you know her sneakers and uh she. was very upset by that it was one of the. first controversies of her so Vogue was. too tough on her V was ran an very. insensi racially insensitive ignorant. cover and she was very displeased by. that what was it a candid she didn't.

know she was posing for a Vogue photoo. she was posing she just didn't know that. would be the cover she got to choose the. outfits and the background but that was. supposed to be inside the magazine not. cover to put her on theover she was very. upset about it people found it very. demeaning are you serious yeah it was. one of the biggest controver before she. even took office this was one of the. biggest controversies of her. career and that was the the narcissism. of rich people in this country is just. it really does even the Biden team.

Communications team was like can we tone. it down a little bit of we don't want. this to be the first major controversy. of our administ of our we haven't even. taken office yet and this is already. what was racially insensitive about it. I'm not. sure I think portraying her in a casual. manner was uh something she did not. appreciate. but I thought she was she was a joyful. Warrior a joyful casual. Warrior so you just you just can't with.

someone like that right but the point is. is that she has an enemy's list of. reporters who don't appreciate her rise. to power and anytime that they stray. from the official Comm Harris narrative. then she's not going to do an interview. with you which is why you have um so. many reporters being very cautious very. careful and she certainly earned that. reputation throughout her whole. presidential campaign I mean reporters. and editors were very familiar with. getting angry responses from the way. they covered conell Harris as a. presidential candidate I honestly feel.

like this is like uh some kind of weird. right-wing parody meant to. discredit people like KL Harris I mean. she's she's like living down to every. stereotype like totally fragile. indecisive. narcissistic this is not the female. leadership that were promised at all. this is like right are all are all. politicians narcissistic yes pretty much. they are for sure oh definitely she's.

not the only one I just want to be clear. yeah but also you know being thin. skinned narcissistic um very adamant. about how you're. covered um and very angry with how. you're treated that's kind of if she. called a Vogue racist then we're dealing. with like I don't think she actually. said that but people close to her were. upset of it for that reason yeah okay um. last question are you going to make sure. that she sees this.

interview do you think she'll watch us. you going to send this over to her press. team yeah I think I will and see if they. have any. response but ultimately I think that's. going to affect her there's a lot of. people who are talking about KLA Harris. in a way that she would not approve of. yeah and up until this point she's. decided just to ignore it but I think. like there's enough people talking about. you've had some great people on who. including an attorney from San Francisco. what's her Dylan yeah armit very very.

she was not a source for the book but. very insightful yeah growing up in that. neighborhood and experiencing conell. Harris for who she is I mean very. insightful interview and I think there's. a lot of people talking about who the. real KLA Harris is that I think that's. why ultimately she feels like she has to. come out and do a media T her because. she has to distract from the. conversations that are actually taking. place it's not working well you'd think. she'd feel obligated just because that's. how democracy. Works voters have a right to information.

about you before they vote on you right. but she doesn't feel that way well and. obviously as these news institutions. lose the power to control the masses and. cheerlead for you even though you don't. give them. interviews then what's the. benefit yeah I mean we don't have a. working it's just North Korean press. agenc here so yeah well B bless you and. the Daily Mail and anyone else who. retains a commitment to telling the.

truth you know imperfectly CU we're. people but you know. trying um I don't think we can function. as a free country without it so I. appreciate you're doing it well thanks. sobody for having me Charlie thank you. very. [Music]. much so it turns out that YouTube is. suppressing our show I know shocking. that in an election year with everything. at stake Google would be putting its. thumb on the scale and preventing you.

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