Tim Dillon: Disney, Boomers, and the Creepy Corporations That Pretend to Love You

do you have strong feelings about. Disney yeah I. do it's terrible you think Disney is. terrible I think it's become terrible I. kind of agree with that but I can't. quite articulate why well it's lazy. Disney's lazy it's the only it's the you. know it's like you know when people take. their kids to vacation there it's like I. understand it but there's other places. to go that are real that have actual. history you could teach your kids about. the country you could teach them about.

anything you can teach them about things. that have actually happened I don't. think Disney World is a terrible place. to go but you shouldn't be doing it. every year there's people that go every. year there's people that go without. children there's people that go without. CH why would without children because. people are sick I mean there's this. whole you know there's this whole uh. group of Disney adults people that. really enjoy Disney World they meet. their wives at Disney World they meet. their husbands at Disney World and that. yet somehow then not procreate uh and.

they love it and they say they remain. children forever and which I don't think. is the goal of life um and yeah I just. think it's uh you know it's it's uh. upsetting when I see it so it's like. it's like an emotional retardation the. kids yeah you you're looking at people. that are. stunted um they're they're unable for. whatever reason to access other there's. a lot of Art in America there's you know. a lot of literature there's a lot of. film it's not all cartoons it's not all. Disney not to take anything away from.

you know a lot of the great Disney. Classics but it's supposed to be the. beginning of your journey and not the. whole thing you know what I mean like. the little mermaid is supposed to start. you off but then you go and find other. things and what's terribly uh depressing. to me or disturbing or both is that you. have people that are still as into it as. they were when they were five except. they're 40 I think that's a big problem. and it's not cheap either I mean I'm.

been it's no it's hot it's very hot and. it's not cheap and it's um they have all. these meal plans now that they offer. people which is like these terrible you. know kind of gross food that they'll. give you throughout the day you know if. you pay like an all-inclusive Feast. someone will go and put a churro in your. mouth every half hour uh and then you. have you know you know it's there's a. lot of there's a lot of Disney uh like. people out there talking about how to do. the parks there are these people um uh.

plus-size people that are now trying to. review Disney rides to see if they fit. in them uh there are people that have. YouTube videos dedicated to the type of. shoes you have to wear at Disney world. because there's a lot of walking there's. people that go I love Disney World but I. refuse to walk is there a way can I get. so I mean it's um it it's become very. big with the maybe voluntarily disabled. community.

where you. have is anyone voluntarily disabled it. seems to be we have a few people I mean. I'm not an Olympic swimmer I'm not I'm. not going out there and you know. [ __ ] on people but I'm saying there. are people that seem more excited about. the uh the uh scooters and the. Wheelchairs and everything like that and. a lot of them love Disney World what's. the connection just societal collapse. well societal collapse is is I think the. big connection but there's something.

about um being a child forever and a. place that tells you you should be a. child forever and that it is good to. have the qualities of a child forever s. like a diaper fetish it's kind of a. diaper fetish it's kind of like there. was a woman who in New Hampshire wanted. to open a diaper Spa where adults would. wear diapers because they have a some. type of fetish where they like to be in. diapers and this woman was trying to. open it in this tiny New Hampshire town. and many people in the town got mad at.

her you know it's very hard to open a. small business and nobody really wanted. that and it was a a a diaper Spa I was. for it because I said if you make the. migrants that are coming into this. country work at the diaper Spa they'll. just go to. Europe so I said we don't need a wall we. just need to like kind of you know get. everyone over to the diaper Spa but I. put the kind of. modern uh a lot of the modern Disney. World world uh cultural stuff kind of.

just above the diaper Spa where you have. people that are going to this place. where they feel like children I don't. know what it is I I think you should go. for your children it's an experience for. them when it becomes about you in any. way I think it's. sick but it also seems like kind of. important like this is a measure of. something yes I do I mean I I I think. that this is a. weird there's a weird Obsession uh with.

um you know this idea that you're like. this is me I have no shame and I'm you. know there should be things I think that. people are ashamed of or they like. quietly maybe if you love Disney World. and you're an adult you shouldn't. announce it to the world I don't need. sweatshirts and t-shirts and tank tops. and Mickey hats and I don't need to see. on your social media how much you adore. Disney World you know and if you can't.

fit in a ride at Disney World just I. don't need you to review that on YouTube. for everyone like there is something. about keeping some close to the vest. because they're shameful well because. they're certainly not ideal and the idea. that it's you know this is not your best. self that you're putting out there and I. understand as a comedian there's a lot. of things that we do where we don't put. out our best self you know but then. there are you know but we always try to. make that funny we make it fun and we.

make a joke out of it but there are a. lot of people out there now I feel like. that are forcing the world to accept. them in their worst uh iteration if that. makes any sense without admitting that. that iteration sucks yeah without. admitting that that iteration at the. very least needs some work and I think. there's a lot of people out there that. are just like hey this is me this is it. that sounds like giving up there's a lot. of giving up I think do you feel that. around us people are giving up I think.

there's a lot of people that don't see a. future and. technology has made the world pretty. isolating and I think uh which is the. exact opposite of what it was intended. to yes I remember that you're old enough. to remember the promise of Technology. was to bring us together connection. going to be together but it seems pretty. isolating and I think a lot of people. are out there and they're not they don't. see any future that they are excited. about and they don't think they can you.

know have a family or afford the. standard of living that they would want. a family to have and yes so I think. there are a lot of people out there that. that struggle with that for sure and. technolog is related to that well I. think technology has has has certainly. it's lessened community and I think. physical communities have suffered a. little bit because all of the the way. that everyone grows up now is pretty is. pretty you know flattened everybody's. been flattened by technology meaning. everybody's looking at the same things.

the same algorithms they're being fed. the same stimuli you the same inputs. whereas when I grew up you would meet. people from different regions of the. country and they grew up completely. different yes and they had different. musical tastes and they had uh. completely different uh you know. histories and cultural influences and. accents accents and everything and. everybody came together uh and and you. know there was this really interesting. cultural diffusion that happened when. you met someone from Louisiana and. someone from scatt Washington now I got. to be honest with you I feel like that's.

less true yeah I feel like it's less. true because I think everybody's kind of. growing up with these same algorithms. they're being fed the same things and. when you meet people they're not as. interesting as they once were because. you've all kind of had a similar. childhood whether you know it or not. because you've been fed the exact same. stimuli over and over again every day on. your. phone which I mean even leaving aside. the potential for like controlling. people's brains and Mak them obedient.

surfs which does seem like the point to. me yeah it homogenizes everything and. makes everyone just sort of flat and. boring it makes everybody boring and. it's one of the things that again you. would think that the great promise of. Technology would be the exact opposite. which is that everybody was going to be. more unique or more interesting uh but. that hasn't happened you know well I. sort of noticed this with the early. Apple ads yeah and the idea behind the. personal computer was this is your you. know window into the world but it's also. a way to broadcast your own unique.

qualities and you're you you're distinct. from everyone else and then you look at. the Apple Store and everyone's dressed. exactly the same they have the same nose. wearing the same t-shirt yeah the the. store store to me just screamed obey. right well that's what it seems like. yeah there seems to be a comfort in that. type of making everything very clean and. homogenized yes where everybody is kind. of you know expected to have the same.

value system and that value system is. kind of being given to them I was really. struck last night at the dinner that we. had Yeah by how many people you know and. by how many places you are yeah well all. the time like all the time not just on. tour but like you seem to be talking to. people yeah and that was the opposite of. the life I thought comedians lived where. you're sort of alone online in your. hotel room well why do you do that yeah. well I'm I can't speak for all comedians. but I know a l of us do travel a lot a.

lot of us talk to I've always just been. very curious about the world so I'm. incredibly curious about why things are. the way they are why certain people and. certain ideas become popular why certain. things seem to be inevitable um how the. society is set up the things we know the. things we don't know the kind of hidden. you know power structures that we start. to realize how enduring they are as you. get older um you don't realize that when. you're young everything when you're. young seems to be you know I remember.

watching Saturday Night lives a kid. which was a hilarious show that I loved. and it was Bush and Gore and it was very. funny and it was these two guys uh and. you know we had Will Farrell I forgot I. think Daryl Hammond did Al Gore it was. really funny and you thought that was. what the world was it was these just we. have two people they have opposing ideas. yes we all go vote and then one of those. people becomes the president for four. years and then that person enacts an. agenda that people either. disagree with or agree with to you know.

and that person has varying degrees of. success and then they're judged four. years. later thought that's what everyone. thought I think my understanding now. this country is so much deeper and more. complex and more interesting than it it. uh you know originally was because now I. I believe that those things are only. part of the larger story of of how the. country actually operates what what. changed your view like when was the. moment when you realized. that's not actually what's happening I.

was I read a book called family of. Secrets which was an interesting book by. a guy named Russ Baker and he wrote it. about the Bush family and it was about. uh you know basically a lot of these. events from from JFK to Watergate that. he had kind of this alternate. understanding of how these events had. happened and he had gone and interviewed. lots of people and he had researched I. think the book took him about 5 years. and I it was came out in I think 200 7. or 2009 maybe and I was reading it I was.

in the mortgage business and it had. fallen apart and there was nothing to do. so we'd all sit in our offices and kind. of [ __ ] off because it was nothing to do. so I was reading this book and um it. where did you get it of Barnes & Noble. you know it was just a it was a yeah it. was just a book on your own with yeah. just on just on my own and me and a. friend were reading it and we each got. them and I was reading it and I I. started to analyze things in a way that. I never had before and basically I was. it was It was kind of this light that.

went off my head I'm like well what if. everyone's lying you know what if. everyone's not telling the truth what. would it look like then what would it. look like if everyone was just making. things up or telling you what you wanted. to hear and I mean it was like you know. it really is an interesting way to look. at things it's a bit cynical but when. you start looking at all these things. you go it doesn't even make sense it. doesn't make sense that you'd have a. country where out of all these. billionaires and then they would be told.

what to do by these people in Congress. that have no money and some of them are. are you know relatively uneducated you. have all these billionaires that are you. know controlling large sectors of the. economy but they're just going to take. edicts from like the guy the local. Milkman that ran for Congress and. Georgia and that he's going to tell. those guys what to do that never made. sense to me and it also never made sense. to me that when I watched us and I was a. kid you know I'd watch these debates and. they were almost identical to the ones.

on uh TV they were kind of silly and. they were you know you have these two. guys Bush wasn't a great speaker and. Gore was kind of insufferable and they. did these characters really well but I'm. like it's so weird that a comedy show is. almost identical to the actual world. that we live in I'm like there's no way. that that's the only level of power in. the country there's very little chance. that that's how it is and then you know. you start reading you read books like. the devil's chessboard by David toet.

about the creation of the National. Security State about the dullas brothers. and how influential they were and you. you read all these books he founded. salon.com and stuff like that and then. wrote that book it was completely uh you. know removed from polite Society but you. read all these books you get interested. in it it was just very interesting to me. you know I was an actor as a little kid. and I you know what kind of actor you. know not a successful one but my parents. would like you know take me into the. city for auditions I wouldn't get. anything because I was you know I was a.

cute little kid but I had like a grally. voice and I it just didn't work right oh. you didn't even smoke and you talk like. that they knew it was coming my body. knew I was going to start so they. prepared but I realized how acting was. interesting because in Hollywood you. know I was really close to getting a job. once but I was 4 inches too tall and the. kid that got it was 4 inches shorter and. he looked better next to the star of the. show was Grace Under Fire Brett Butler. was a sitcom and you realized how how.

arbitrary a lot of these decisions are. that are made and when you're a little. kid you become a little cynical because. you're you're you're you're auditioning. for all this stuff and you're looking at. the way the and sometimes like the. director's son gets the job and. sometimes like you don't even know why. you know you you didn't get the job you. did a great job and you you're basically. as a as a young person you're you're. aware of the you know the limits of like. certain types of meritocracy where it's. like there's stuff behind the scenes.

happening and I think you know I started. to think about politics in that way and. it was funny to me it was much funnier. did you have anyone to talk to about. this friends people that I grew up with. that you know might have been into it. too you know but it wasn't it was kind. of this was pre. 2016 oh yeah this was like. 2009 10 you know and it would just. seemed very funny to me what did you. make of 9/11 through that lens well when. I was young I was very supportive of. like Iraq war and George W bush you know.

but I was you know on cocaine and that. really that helps it really did um it's. a patriotic drug um to be honest but I. was believing everything that everyone. said we were invaded by these people and. they we were invaded because they don't. have shopping malls in Afghanistan and. they don't have McDonald's and they. can't get chicken nuggets like I do with. my friends they can't smoke pot in the. mall so they all decided to kill us well. that's terrible so we have to go over. there and build shopping malls so that. these guys can go hang out and you know. uh get uh you know whatever you know uh.

they need so that they're not miserable. and all that stuff and I believed it I. believed all of it and I was a fervent. advocate of that because it made a lot. of sense I'm like we've got a good thing. they've got a thing that's not too good. we have to go and help them and it was. this uh this thing where I just believed. that and I believed in it and I voted. for Bush and I thought uh that you know. my first vote was for Bush was his. second term and I had friends that went.

off to Iraq I'm like we got to do this. we have to you know we can't dishonor. their memory by by pulling out and doing. all this stuff I really believe that. I've now completely you know switched I. now see it as a complete disaster a huge. mistake and error and as far as 911 at. that point I was you know believ that it. was exactly how they said it happened. and now you know quite frankly I don't. know I mean I it it it seems improbable. that all of these things happened. the way that they said that they.

happened um I don't know what exactly. happened and people have attacked me for. saying that you know because I just I. question now more than I did you may. have come to the obvious conclusion that. the real debate is not between. Republican and Democrat or socialist and. capitalist right left the real battle is. between people who are lying on purpose. and people who are trying to tell you. the truth it's between good and evil. it's between honesty and falsehood and. we hope we are on the former side that's.

why we created this network the Tucker. Carlson Network and we invite you to. subscribe to it you go to. tuckercarlson.com. podcast our entire archive is there a. lot of behind the-scenes footage of what. actually happens in this Barn uh when. only an iPhone is running Tucker. carlson.com. podcast you will not regret it wellit. you've been attacked for admitting that. you're agnostic on it yeah people will. will call you names and you know try to. use that as some type of and you know.

about this people calling you names when. you say yeah I don't really know what. happened on 9/11 they go they try to use. that as a pejorative against you and say. you're a conspiracy theorist you're a. nut job you're whatever and you go okay. I mean it's those things don't mean but. do you ever think to yourself like. anyone who believes like the story at. the White House Press briefing is a. [ __ ] [ __ ] yes I think that and it's. funny to me how wrong we are it being. wrong is funny so that's one of the. reason I became interested in this.

dimension of power in America is because. I I actually you either you laugh or you. cry and I started to laugh and I think. how wrong everybody is so how do you I. mean your Insight which is really smart. that you know the former Milkman from. Georgia is probably not giving orders to. the gigar like that doesn't actually. make any sense that makes no sense right. um how do you think things really work. well I mean I think that you have. um a group of people. that have a lot of power and a lot of.

influence and they probably have. different ideas they're probably not a. monolith they probably are different. religions and races and they have to but. they they're interested in preserving. their level of power I think that. becomes their main their main um you. know objective and I think this is the. thing that they all kind of relate on. whether they sue each other or dislike. each other or have wars with each other. in the press and we tend to think that. these are blood feuds and these are and. probably some of them are but at the end. of the day they are all interested in.

retaining their level of power in. American society and all over the world. and I think those people operate uh in. in a lot of different ways but a huge. way I believe that they operate is. subverting uh the Democratic process. here and all over the world meaning like. the will of the people cannot get in the. way of whatever they want to do so I. think they have to disguise that agenda. in any way that they can you know the.

new thing now for example is um which I. you know this is very you know you know. what today I'm I'm I'm in a diner and. I'm watching I'm having breakfast and. I'm watching you know this terrible air. strike in in Rafa this this you know. this place I didn't even know existed a. month ago right I'm not like a and this. guy's holding up this headless child. it's it's it's horrific and we're. watching it in the diner and and um you. you're watching it listen listen I think. Israel should exist I believe they have.

a right to exist anti-Semitism exists. blah blah blah I know that it's not all. great over there but you're watching. this and then you go this seems unreal. it seems very extreme and then the. position of people on the. internet uh that will are supporting. this no matter what without any is well. do you know the how Hamas treats gay. people and. women and you go how dumb do I look how. stupid do I how stupid do I look that.

this is the argument how dumb do I look. that you expecting me to believe that. American foreign policy has been about. the rights of women or and is that why. we were in Afghanistan it had nothing to. do with Mining rights or lithium ion or. any of that stuff it has nothing to do. with the Strategic importance of certain. locations it all has to do with teaching. girls prot gay and protecting gay people. and teaching women to read it's crazy. it's crazy but that emotional appeal.

works on people and they go well I guess. we have to kill children then that baby. is homophobic kill it and you start. going it doesn't make any sense it. doesn't make any sense from a logical. standpoint it makes absolutely no sense. people can debate about Israel or what. we should be doing or giving them or. funding right but so again it's like. you're taking this you're shoehorning. this narrative into this conflict and. it's it's it's I think the way a lot of.

these people that have an agenda operate. where they go we need to present this. Ukraine war as a way that we are. fighting a murderous dictator who's. going to take over all of Europe and. even though there's not there hasn't was. an Evidence of that no no evidence. there's really not a ton of evidence. right there's almost none you have to. believe that now I live in you know. Beverly Hill California I live outside. of the the city limits but I say I do.

and um the worst people in the world you. know in Beverly Hills right I mean. Monster people like they make valet cry. get my eing car you know what I mean. like people jump out of Windows and they. walk over their bodies to get in their. Porsche it's crazy and that happened in. the building I lived in but so these. someone jumped out the window yeah this. Hollywood producer Steve Bing he killed. himself I knew Steve and he jumped out. of the window and then you think Steve. killed himself I don't know I don't know. but I did Steve was a great guy it's sad. I have no idea what happened but Steve.

was the biggest donor to the Democratic. party under Clinton that's a deadly move. huh well it's a little deadly and then. Steve began I know because he told me. began changing his views on things oh. and then the next thing you know Steve. Bing has committed suicide and I don't. know but a friend of mine who's very. close to Steve Bing and I was friends. with Steve Bing said that was not no. that's not what happened that's very. possible that's your building I know. where that is so I used to live there. and I moved out of there cuz it has a. dark energy can you imagine did did you.

really move cuz it had a dark energy. yeah yeah yeah I couldn't really sleep. and friends would come over and we'd sit. in the living room one of these. apartments and they' go what's this and. we're not those people we're not like. crystals people we're not you know but. you sound spiritually sensitive yeah I. guess I'm sensitive enough to realize it. was just something and then there was. like a lot of like junkies but you know. beating each other up and beating up. their girlfriends and stuff and the cops. would have to come all the time not a. great building I won't say which one it. is I don't want to be sued but because I. did trash him on the podcast and they.

did they were upset um but it was not a. great building but the same people who. would walk over and you know I I talked. to the valet you know the morning after. that happened there were people going oh. that's terrible anyway it's the blue. Porsche let's go so this is the type of. person that we're dealing with in. Beverly Hills and you need people that. are kind of like that to a degree I mean. you know you do need people that are not. you know singing Kumbaya all the time. but let's just say these are not. incredible sensitive Souls that are.

living in Beverly Hills right I remember. everyone had a Ukrainian flag. immediately after the war started like. they had been shipped well because they. care yeah unlike you they care they care. about democracy right so all these. people who like you know kick their maid. down the. stairs I'm laughing cuz I gr up around. people like that in Southern California. so I know you're right there people that. like scream and yell at people and. restaurants when something's not.

macrobiotic or veg they apparently. became all humanitarians in uh uh the. span of one night and then the Ukraine. Flags roll over the place and if you. asked any question about the Ukraine or. what was going on or why Russia went in. or why they would be in NATO because. they hate our freedoms yeah right so it. was the same kind of argument it's the. same very strange manne and right evil. argument totally right and and would. just. say you know I I had dinner with RFK and.

his wife who I adore and his son was ear. his son served in Ukraine kid Conor He's. a brave kid God bless him you know um I. mean hey God you know everyone does. something right of course and he was. talking about it and and he said you. know and everyone at the table was you. know saying you know how hard it is to. to um you know we were sitting in Malibu. to dinner they go you know hard you know. that's serving the Ukraine I go yeah but. I'm defending Vladimir Putin in malibo. at a dinner party that's actually. tougher be honest very it's actually.

you're the one who needs the medal I. actually need the medal and I no but. it's so to me I just thought this is. very funny what shuts down comedy is. fundamentalism of course and so when. people say to you you can't ask. questions you can't know things uh it's. you know it's why every dictator in the. world hates comedians they don't want. anybody asking any questions about. anything and they shut everything down. and that's why people get that get. offended very easily usually have. something to hide the coolest people in. the world are the people people will. poke fun out on the show and they don't. care and they think it's fun and they.

don't think go this guy's a buffoon and. who cares you know or maybe there's some. truth in it that I should learn from or. whatever or that perhaps but like when. you make fun of people and they lose. their mind it always suggests something. right so every time that I would ask. about the Ukraine I go why exactly uh. we've never heard of the Ukraine and. every Vice documentary about the Ukraine. was that they were white supremacist. Neo-Nazi countri every Vice documentary. was like a bunch of people in ukra. walking around you with SS tattoos and.

Shields and I go and and these people. just overnight became like great allies. and like brave people that we loved so. it was like okay listen I'm I feel bad. their country got invaded and they're. doing what they have to do and whatever. but I just don't know you know it's just. very interesting to hear people that. have never thought I mean these people. that I live around have never had a. thought about another human being in. their life they've never had a thought. and in fact they wouldn't even be. effective at what they do if they did. the agents and managers they can't see. as a human being they have to see as a.

product and that's what makes them good. at what they do of course they have to. see as a product you can't work in a. slaughter house if you love cows that's. correct you can't you can't pet the cow. and go are you tired do you need some. time off how's your wife you have to. look at the cow and go it's 100 Grand. get on the plane and if you don't like. it do drugs do drugs. um so what happens is they're the worst. people I've ever known they're the worst. the agents and they're always this like.

the black sheep of a very wealthy family. who everyone else is successful so it's. always like you have a guy when you have. an agent they go my brother works at. Goldman Sachs my sister is a. neurosurgeon and I do this because I. have no Talent OR skills except I was. born rich and I'm a sociopath and I. don't have any educational background. but I was never going to work at Popeyes. making chicken sandwiches so I sit here. at a desk and that's who most of them. can I just ask you something it's funny. in the last couple years I've you know.

obviously I know a lot of people have. been cancelled you know had these fake. scandals yes wherever they came come. from um and then every one of them has. been dropped by his agent and in a. couple cases that agent has been J sures. I think and but other agents too and a. buddy of mine said to me well I'm I. can't believe this happened like I I was. really close to my agent like I know his. kids yeah I went to his house all the. time and the second person any problem. at all the agent issues a statement like.

distancing himself from his own client. adding to the dog pile well this is what. happens this is kind of what they what. they have to do because shouldn't that. be a death penalty offense the agent. like how can who would hire an agent who. did that everyone why because what. happens is everybody in that town is. full of [ __ ] okay everybody and and. everybody kind of goes on that like. everybody. like it's the type of town where if. someone calls you up and goes so and so.

died you go yeah okay No One Believes. anything you goes sure they did like. it's a. complete uh you know it's a fun house. it's a Hall of Mirrors it's a it's a. place so the agent that drops you in. many cases will call you and go hey I'm. really sorry the higher ups or will drop. me if I don't drop you everyone's on the. chopping block there from the CEO of. Paramount to the person who's working. making uh you know a salad for their. boss at CIA or UT or WME everyone's on.

the chopping block there's nobody there. that really uh everybody just goes with. the wind so if somebody doesn't like a. comedian uh if like the consensus is. that that comedian's bad everyone's like. they're bad they're a demon from hell. and then if it swings the other way and. that comedian starts doing really well. they're like they've had a great year. there's nothing behind their eyes. there's nothing there and and that's. just the accepted reality of the town so. that's why. like no hard feeling you're right you're.

having a human reaction yeah loyalty is. so important to a video. game that's what's happening you're. having a human reaction to a video game. which is what it is it's just. everybody's plugged into this Matrix. nothing's real what people do is real. like the comedy and the movies and the. art and the whatever and the books and. all the things that people create but. how people in the business handle them. and respond to them is dictated 100% by.

the winds that blow in so if the woke. Wind Blows in they go we're doing woke. get every fat woman get every minority. they're on television I want women so. fat they can't breathe on their own I. want them in wheelchairs I want them to. have one leg and I want them to be. indigenous go and then when that makes. no money they go great white guys let's. do that white guys are back and then if. that if if people get mad again and they. want the they don't believe the people. there don't really believe in anything.

it's just like they're just waiting to. see which way they can. go some of them like some of them like. comedy like some of them like kind of. like comedy and that's the best you. could say for some of them is have you. ever in all your time in LA experienced. an authentic human. emotion one time I went to a Thai. restaurant it was closed and I was very. sad it was usually you have to look at. other for human emotions like Mexicans.

you know what I mean like who are like. going like usually coming out of a. church or doing something like that um. uh it's a very weird place I've learned. to love parts of it and hate parts of it. it's very different from where I lived. it's these vast canyons and this you. know mountains very empty and it's very. Hollow and people are very passive. aggressive and kind of laidback and. they're not as intense I grew up in New. York and Long Island with a lot of. intense people and there's a lot of like. uh you you know and it's just a town. that functions primarily with with the.

the Only Rule there is that everything's. always great so everybody is always like. things are great how are you oh good. like no matter what's going on in their. lives they want to present this thing. everything's great because you want to. be near winners you want to be near good. people and people that are doing well. and everybody just has to present that. side of themselves at all times which is. why say oh it's fake um and that it's.

you know it's not real but it it is it. is that's kind of the the the guiding. principle get too dark but what if. things aren't great like things aren't. great for a lot of people things are not. great who do you talk. to great question I mean I think there. are like little groups of people that. have honest moments I've had honest. moments there with people but the people. that I've had honest moments with you. know it's it's very funny because it's. the only place where some meet up with. you um and like look around and you.

think they're selling you heroin but. then they're just going to say something. remotely conservative you know it's very. yeah you know people kind of just like. go like you know the border is it. doesn't look good somebody be like B is. a little old but it it is a weird. because everybody's like terrified of. like you know but that's changing now. because I think the institutions have. less power and the internet has grown. and people are more free so I think it.

is changing and there are definitely. opportunities for people to kind of. connect with an audience outside of that. system and I think that system is now. also responding very positively for the. first time to people that have gained an. audience on the internet I think they're. starting to understand the the value of. that and that it isn't this world in. which everybody's good or bad or perfect. or not there are people that make. mistakes and there's people that also. are you know really good people that are. not. reflected by uh a certain action you.

know what I mean like there's this idea. that like people are entire people. they're not just one thing you didn't. like that's exactly right and I think. that's going to be I think that's what's. the future hopefully is is nuance and. complexity whereas we went through a. period where it was very simple and. everybody was like bad good Ally not. enemy you know now I think we're going. to go oh that guy and like take a beat. and be like what about and take a breath. and I do it all the time with people. treating people as human beings treating.

them with human beings and I do it all. the time with people that I completely. disagree with on everything person is a. psychotic but I take a step back and I. go let me look at them as a human being. and not just a collection of tweets that. make me want to. vomit I I want to ask you about that but. before we pass on from La I just I. haven't lived there in many years but I. visit overrun with homeless people. addicts mostly but also non- addicts. just a lot of people living Outdoors. really sad visible sign of collapse in.

my view but it's all black and all white. yeah pretty much and La I think is. majority Hispanic City it's a wide. Hispanic City primar but I don't see any. or many Hispanics living on the street. what is that almost none almost none so. in a city that's majority Mexican origin. yeah and there's nobody like that living. on the street like what why well I think. if you look at because they're rich no I. think this this this a lot of these. homeless encampments are open air drug.

markets yes people don't want to talk. about it people don't want to of course. you know malign people that are homeless. that aren't on drugs and of course there. are people that are homeless that aren't. on drugs but I will tell you this. everybody in La has observed people that. are homeless that have mental issues and. some of those mental issues are brought. on or exacerbated by drug use this is. just plain and simple this doesn't say. that all poor people are drug addicts no. one's saying that no one's saying that. you have to be a drug addict to end up.

homeless what people are saying let me. just say since both of us are sober for. long that's correct and off drugs and. alcohol I think we have the right. actually to assess this and stop let's. stop the [ __ ] that's right and and. all of the people that are struggling. with addiction have not been helped by. the people whose job it is to help them. and the government's job right is to. provide a safe environment for every one. for people that are addicted to drugs. people that aren't addicted to drugs so.

the way to provide a safe environment. for people that are addicted to drugs is. not permit them to live on the street. and use drugs in a tent exactly it is. not to permit uh people to use uh fenol. on the street and to uh overdose on the. street and die and this is not a. compassionate thing and this is not a. good policy um if you had a n or nephew. who is addicted to drugs and you may. yeah would you give them money for drugs. and let them live on the street no I've. had members of my own family that that's. what I'm saying we all have can't do it.

there's a lot of excitement there's. something weird I remember when they. broke up this homeless encampment in. Echo Park. yeah a lot of people were protesting. very excited and they were like and. there's like psych you know people are. nuts there so then people go well I go. buy things there this to help I buy. little lanyards and stuff that they're. selling I go do you think this is a. long-term solution when you have this. homeless encampment in a park and then. people treating it like a farmer Market. all these like wealthy white people that. want to help are going there giving them.

money for heroin and buying an avocado. or some crazy thing and I don't even. know what's what people were selling. there but when the comps broke it up. there was a lot of uh tension in the. community because the community was. against it they didn't want the homeless. encampment broken up they were very. angry they were like how dare these. fascists break up this homeless. encampment again where people were. overdose their own neighborhood yes they. want it that's the thing I was standing. the other day in San Francisco and this. woman said to me I said she was you know.

I go yeah the city is you know falling. apart and I go the mayor you London. breed I don't know what she's really. doing she goes she goes yep she's trying. to criminalize addiction we went down. that road and I'm like wait a minute so. you're your take is that the mayor of. San Francisco is too conservative. because trying to criminalize a dict I'm. like you got to criminalize the. behaviors that are often inherent with. addiction yes you know robbing people. yes selling drugs you know uh crimes.

that involve procuring drugs trafficking. people like there's all these things. that happen and you know you just. there's something that goes on and it's. on the west coast more than the East. Coast for sure where. people. don't. understand the. value of of of of. standards being enforced they don't see.

it they don't get it they think that. it's a. completely uh you know uh. insensitive uh way to look at the. situation and saying like we have a. standard you don't sleep in a tent you. don't camp on the street there are. homeless shelters you got to go we have. project room key you got to go to a. hotel room but if you're going to. participate not program you have to. submit to drug testing and counseling. because we can't have people using drugs. in that program and providing drugs to. other people we're not going to pay. people to commit suicide we're not going.

to pay people to kill themselves on the. street and that's a standard and we're. forcing that standard and that's people. for whatever reason don't seem to. believe that that is but maybe they're. the ones who lack compassion like again. would you treat a loved one the way they. treat the so-called Hom no no it's very. interesting I don't know what it is. maybe they have this freak weird fetish. with people dying all around them I. don't know what it's very sick I very. honest why know Hispanic why know. Mexicans in a city that meican I think. so and there are all kinds of problems. in Mexican neighborhoods a lot of.

poverty gangs you know that come to. California to be homeless in California. maybe that's it because of the the the. weather and then there's programs should. someone study what the Mexicans are. doing and like maybe do that yes I mean. our governor lives on a Vineyard so good. luck but um you know good luck about the. studying happening um yeah you do not. see a ton of you really don't you don't. way disproportionate to the population. way way dis well it's also you don't see. a lot of Mexican people not working.

that's what I'm saying so maybe the. solution is not working is not is not. actually having effect a lot of the. white people no one has a job even the. ones that have money they sit around. they kind of have smoothies they what is. that they float around I don't know but. no one really works float around for. cafes they have like kind of fake. meetings they take meetings all the time. talk to another person and that's a. meeting and they they go what about you. know what about this and what do you. think's going on and have coffee and. they go this coffee is not as good as. the last and you know it's no one seems.

to be working where's all the money come. from I don't know I have no idea the CCP. I know I don't know for real though I. don't know who's floating it I mean. usually when I have a lazy friend you go. back in their family lineage someone got. a bag of money somewhere yeah the dad. the grandpa the great grandpa someone's. got money somewhere I don't know I mean. with LA you meet a lot of people that. are drifting around and they have. they're aimless and but but anness is. very expensive especially it's very.

expensive and I don't think the Mexican. culture is a is is a Catholic culture. it's a religious culture it's a culture. of of working it's culture of of of. parties and food and like enjoying life. and getting the most out of life but it. doesn't seem to be a culture that I. would associate with aimlessness no. doesn't seem aimless at all it seems to. be pretty you know and I mean I'm sure. there are problems in every Community. but there's a lot of aimlessness it's. like you know that's a thing of people. people talk about people talk about race. and all this stuff but it's like you. know the white people in the west coast.

are maybe the most damaging group of. people to Civil Society I've ever seen. in my life I mean when you talk about. the people that live in Seattle and. Portland the things that laws that they. pass and favor and I I've never seen a. group of people wreak more havoc on a. civil society in my life than the west. coast of the United States why what's. the motive there do you think I don't. know I don't know if it's no sun I don't. know what it is I I I don't know what it. is I I just know that they're trying to. destroy things they're trying to destroy.

things in Portland there was like a van. this woman like driving at a van and. just shooting people up it was called a. stabbing wagon where they're just. shooting up drug addicts on the street. and it was crazy it was like insane and. this was like and then they just. reversed it Portland's like you know hey. they were like this is actually you. don't have to be for the drug war which. I wasn't really for sure you know. hassling people for partying at home. even though I'm sober against that sure. but if you get to a place where some. girl is shooting people up with. narcotics like she should be in prison.

right there's always a limit right cuz. these people that have all these ideas. and then what happens is like a few. people die in front of them in Whole. Foods yeah and they start going well. maybe maybe like it is f they. go and when someone dies in a Whole. Foods in front of them they start going. you know what may because the. consequences for a lot of these people. are just so far removed that they're. just not present they're just not. they're behind a gate they're some you. know the 40 minutes out of the city. whatever it is and they just kind of.

don't care but then people start you. dying in Whole Foods and then they start. going yeah maybe this isn't ideal this. might not be great so it takes that. though it takes something extreme like. that for these people to kind of wake up. so obviously I'm a bad person but I I. don't want the pivot to happen without. someone being punished for this yeah and. there someone who grew up out there when. it was really idyllic it was sort of. peak human civilization in 1975 in. Laurel Canyon right um and now it's. dystopian it's like someone should have.

to be held to account for this pay the. price for that they W they'll be like. actually like I was never for that it's. like the co V I was well I always had. conc starts no you didn't yeah I mean. it's interesting do you think they would. treat the internet the way they treat. the real world like all these people who. they love how functional their sites are. anyone that says anything it's banned. immediately everything's very clean they. work very well you access them pretty. easily they work a lot on the user.

experience how's the user experience. walking down the street yeah how's the. 405 in the Castro how's the 405 how's. your user experience there how are you. interfacing with the person who just. ODed in Whole Foods like apply all of. the same things uh to the real world. they just don't seem to care that's a. brilliant observation they seem not to. give a [ __ ] they seem to care mainly. about the digital world in which they're. creating an ushering people into at a. very rapid pace and they don't seem to.

care about the real world and if I was a. conspiracy nut I might. say that the worse the real world is the. more people are dependent on the digital. world and the quicker you can get them. all there that might be if I was you. know having fun I might you might like. shut down the entire US economy and. force everyone to stay indoors for a. year seems like it might be a decent. plan but would that actually work would. people choose Amazon over like local. retailers do you think tried that yeah.

you know you could transfer you could. cancel rent and then transfer all that. wealth from local landlords and demonize. them to corporate landlords oh who now. own a lot of the United States and if. you've ever had a local landlord which I. have you're much better off I've been. broke for years I was a comedian you're. much better off sitting down with. someone face to face like this and going. I can get it Thursday then you are. dealing with black rock so they're not. as compassionate seem not to be they. seem not to be so this idea that we we.

demonized anybody that owned a two. family house and we said look at this. scumbag landlord and they own a three-. family house where they live in one of. the units and the other two units are. people that they rent to and we said. look at these people their pieces you. know what happened all the corporate. landlords bought everything own. everything and are raising the price of. residential real estate for everybody. that you know is trying to buy a house. so it's it's weird where we because. we've got this I never hear anyone talk. about that no one talks about it no one.

cares no one talks about the fact that. most of the new constructions um in. London at one point it was 60% it might. be more now or less but at one point it. was about 60% of all new constructions I. bet it's high now are being bought by. Foreign Nationals uh with llc's they're. not living there it's doing in New York. I mean they're doing it in all of these. cities uh most of these buildings you. look at New York billionaires row. there's four lights on this huge. skyscraper who's there no one's home. there's no school bus no one's taking. their kids to school it's you know a guy.

that comes in and is laundering money. through real estate uh in uh cities like. New York and London and places that so. that's why as the economy craters yeah. and people are just poor because of. inflation yeah housing prices don't drop. rents don't drop that's right it's being. artificially propped up and that's why. these cities are really rich wealthy. City you go who the has all this money. who has this money to buy these. apartments and then you go oh it's.

criminals from all over the world that. are washing a lot of dirty money in real. estate and I'm sure maybe just rich. people that aren't criminals but a lot. of them a lot of them are guys if you. look it up there's like a guy there's. like a it'll be like a guy who poisoned. a river in Zambia and then is now and. it's like that's why all these real. estate shows are fake they're all not. true they're all these with these. attractive women they walk around they. find these like they find like a guy. who's a basketball player or a guy who's.

like an actor none of them are even. buying the houses by the way I know the. people that work on these real estate. shows you know they really sell the. houses to a lot of people that just come. in speaking complete Mandarin and I have. a friend who's a real estate agent and. they they come in speak complete. mandering to a translator he just points. you he's Beverly Hill isn't pointing. there you go they stand outside they. look at the view and they're the ones. who are actually buying houses or. Russian Nationals oligarchs or people. from the United Arab Emirates or people. for Brazilian mining magnets or people. from India it's it's very it's not.

really a lot of domestic buyers in La. it's in New York it's a it's a ton of. foreign Nationals you know and that's. why these real estate shows this aren't. true if they were true it would be a. real estate agent um greeting someone at. the door and going this is a beautiful. house how did things go at the hag are. you okay everything was good at the heg. great we saw that take a look at the. veranda they have a great that would be. the real show but it's not the real show. you know what about the people who live. here they can't afford housing they. can't afford housing and no one cares no.

one cares because they the whole game. now is people just say rent rent take. Ubers you don't need a car you don't. need to own anything doesn't matter what. you moved personally yeah in the. opposite direction yeah so you made. money after years of being poor yes it. sounds like you didn't put as much in. the market as you did into real estate. why um real estate to me is something I. understand I I I I would probably get. richer if I knew more about stock or if. I knew you know I was caught up in that. Bitcoin craziness where I still have a.

good amount of crypto and I you know I. remember you know we talked last night I. remember sitting at a table with like. Jake Paul and a few of these guys and. Jake Paul's like are you investing in. Crocket I said what is that and he's. like well it's a it's a coin you know. it's a it's a shitcoin but it was going. up he's like I've made all this money. and I called my business manager like 2. am. in Miami and I'm a sober guy but I. feel high because I'm calling my. business manager at 2 a going should I. invest in Crocket and he goes I think so. I think probably so this is how nuts. everyone got did you invest in C I.

didn't I was I was at the end of the day. I pulled out and I'm like nah let's just. stick with Bitcoin and ethereum you. pulled out of Crocket I pulled out of. Crocket I said you know what this is too. volatile yeah but you went with the. withdrawal method I with the withdrawal. method of Crocket I said we don't want. it all over the place but it was a crazy. time it was an insane time nfts people. were making millions of dollars people. were making all this money uh with. Bitcoin it was a complete House of Cards. it was crazy and I think Bitcoin is a. good thing I think having this.

decentralized currency is actually a. really cool thing but like everything. else the world that grew around it was a. world of criminals and con artists and. Flim Flam artists and people that were. full of [ __ ] and people that were just. taking all this money and pumping all. these things up and just all these were. stock scams and Ponzi schemes and stuff. like that real estate to me seemed the. most safe because I understood it I get. it I understand people always need. houses want houses they give you Joy. they make you happy they're things that. promote other things in society that I. think are good like having a family and.

keeping a family and having I have a. house on Long Island where I can have my. family come and visit and like I'm an. hour from my father and I'm only a few. hours from family that lives in Rhode. Island like I think having places for. people to gather is very important was. part of my childhood and those things. are huge you I don't think you get as. much joy from Crocket you know as an. investment you might get more money so I. I understand that but I've also watched. Friends not be able to and I got lucky. because I was a comedian I got started a. podcast Joe Rogan helped me out a lot by. putting me on a bunch and I got really.

lucky but I have friends that are. hardworking people firefighters teachers. nurses the people that actually do the. jobs that make Society work and run and. they're having a tough time now because. the interest rates are 7% and the how. the house values and with the rates I. think it's the most time most expensive. time to buy in like 40 years or yes it's. crazy so how closely do you follow. residential real estate markets very are. they going to come. down yes the answer eventually yes. there's more inventory coming in 2025 I.

think that rates dropping will get. people off the sidelines right now it's. an inventory problem where there's just. not a lot of houses there's not a lot of. houses on the market Boomers don't want. to die and they don't want to sell their. homes Boomers used to sell their homes. go to Florida get a condo Boomers don't. want to do that they're actually. retiring in some cases bigger homes it's. it's kind of hilarious and somewhat. satanic just because this the. selfishness is so ingrained them it's so. ingrained in them that their whole the.

the thing about the Boomers is they've. been alive for a very long time many of. them have attained absolutely no wisdom. so what they've done that's not easy by. the way it's not easy it's actually. impressive and what they've done is. everything's material so this big house. that they lured around I mean some of my. friends parents I mean I'm writing a. book about them they're hilarious they. know nothing I mean nothing but they. lured around these big Suburban castles. and their whole sense of self worth. comes from this it comes from. materialism so the idea that they would.

leave this big house which is every. argument that a boomer ever tries to win. they just point at their house I mean. they don't know anything they have zero. idea they've read no books about. anything uh they're a very funny they. less really truly funny generation I. think because everyone has becoming. flattened but they are just very funny. and deeply selfish I mean it's you know. uh it's funny to watch them and you know. it is funny but they're never going to. get rid of these houses so their their.

kids are kind of you know they're being. held hostage I mean the whole economy. you know I mean Pelosi uh Biden these. very old people Mitch McConnell they. won't retire none of them have any plans. on retiring they want to die in office. and that's very much like across the. board nobody will sell their house. nobody will step down at their job it's. just a generation of people that don't. want to stop because they're afraid of. what's I mean they know they'll be. punished to the next life I don't even.

know they seem to be very ambivalent. about that they they seem to face death. and kind of the very like H um they. don't seem to be do I'm kind of. impressed they don't seem appropriately. afraid yeah someone impressed by them. actually they're they're they're s of C. they're very casual about it I think. because it it it you know they're. they're main fears are. discomfort and I think if they're gone. there won't be any more discomfort. there's no more traffic what so you're. writing a book about the Boomers yeah.

they were my teachers growing up yeah. and um and it's not all bad but it's. they're they're all bad I hated them. from first grade when I realized who. they were they're they're funny though. so to me the thing that I I say when I. say they're not all bad they're terrible. at all the things you would you would. say that they're but they make me laugh. they're very fun Trend over the last 70. years they've driven and fallen for. completely whatever dumb trend from the. pet rock to feminism [ __ ] Co like.

they're all in on every Trend the thing. with the Boomers is they they their. lives started and they're Woodstock. people right so 100% they all went to. Wood we all believe my parents didn't. because it was traffic I could do not. they turned around cuz there was too. much traffic can you imagine they were. Boomers even then and they literally. turned their car around I mean it's it's. unforgivable it's unforgivable behavior. um what happens is we are led to believe. they're this very Progressive uh. generation of very interesting uh agents.

people agents of change and spiritual. people right and then we we we see of. course that they're just selfish drug. addicts that want to just do drugs in a. field which has its benefits but let's. not pretend it's a a grand life strategy. right and and then they just kind of you. know buy into the they're the most. propagandized generation in terms of. advertising yes I mean the Edward beray. stuff I mean like they fell forever they. fed us all poison growing up they fell. for everything they fell for every.

corporate slogan my father who I love. but will cry at commercials he would cry. at the Budweiser Clydesdale as to do the. 911 thing he loved the Budweiser frogs. like he loved Comm they loved Comm. Boomers adored commercials they liked. Comm a good folders commercial when the. family sitting together and they're. drinking coffee Boomers loved. commercials they thought uh that all of. these things that that corporations. really cared about them and they kind of. they were very somewhat naive and I. think. they're they're kind of like spinning.

out a little bit now because they've. realized a little bit to some degree how. wrong they were about everything and and. it was kind of now it's kind of becoming. you know apparent but they like being. lied to is what you're saying well they. they liked it because it was all about. Comfort the idea of moving into the. suburbs and getting this house and. having all these things the mark of. success became comfort you know for. years in America the mark of success was. like conquest or going and you know.

settling something whatever achievement. or coming up with a company or an. advancement make people's lives better. you know then it became about Comfort. it's where do you live and how leafy. green is the suburb and where's the pool. and and it was just like let's relax. let's Grill and I think what happened. was a lot of these people just became. kind of creatures of this environment. where everybody was one-upping each. other with cars and you know you know. like but they still had that like hippie. thing in them so they would still do.

weird stuff like my friend's dad has. like a band and it's like he'll go and. you know play in this band it's like. terrible band but they'll they'll have. fun like you know there were just these. things that they like keep from that era. even though they you know have you know. gone fully down the road of like just. materialism and they didn't really liked. their children that's the other thing I. find funny they view their children was. like obstacles to their own success and.

fulfillment the Boomers really didn't. like their children was the first. generation people that didn't really. want their children to have it too much. better than they did if they wanted them. to have it better at all it was kind of. a weird disgusting I know but it was. just a very weird adversarial. relationship my friend's mother just. like faked she didn't go to his wedding. she like faked some injuries she said. she was attacked in. a said she was like attacked in a. supermarket it's blatantly untrue what. blly untr she made up the story that she. was like attacked at a supermarket. parking lot she just was like I'm.

attacked and I can't go and she just. miss his wedding she didn't go to his. wedding why they're crazy these people I. don't know these Boomers I don't know. why they do what they do but they're. just it's just very funny it's like so. one very funny thing was after my mother. died I swear to God I was on the phone. my aunt which is her sister and I go I. go what do we think about a funeral. everything like that you maybe Thursday. she goes I know she goes we've got a. boat thing not. really is her sister yeah she goes we're. going to go on the boat with some. friends but she goes we could get it we. maybe we do it next we figure it out.

next week. so but that's why there're so that's why. I do love them I don't hate like I love. them because it's like they're horrible. but they make me laugh so much and I was. able to you know just fuse the stuff. together to make it the Millennials suck. too and there's other Generations that. are problem but um they just they make. me laugh but they are terrible they are. really terrible and that's what makes. them what's so funny is they're getting. credit for it though finally. someone who's disliked them since like. 1977 I really have too yeah cuz they.

spoke entirely in cliches they're just. so benal it's very it's very it's very. benal shallow and the materialist you're. exactly right but now it seems like. they're just reviled by everyone is that. true yes they're kind of revolved by. everyone and they're they just I. remember growing up all my friends. parents they all they all spoke in like. sayings totally and none of it meant. anything and uh you know they would. demonize perfectly good jobs like union. jobs like you want to be like that guy. you want to be like that guy and they.

had these empty corporate hellscape jobs. that turn they all turn them into. alcoholics and everything but they like. you want to be like that guy and it was. usually like an in shaped guy like. working construction like you want to be. a scumbag like cam or do you want to sit. in an office like me and cheat on your. mother um so you so is this they always. demonized other people you were always. in a rat race with other kids they. always talked about these other kids. doing better than you it was like you. know kind of a weird like a weird but. nothing was nothing was really focused.

on on Excellence as much as it was. focused on. winning to make them look good so like. you know if you had Boomer parents in. sports they were always kind of like. they weren't getting you up and making. you train but they would go to the games. and yell like they would go like there. was this woman this woman her daughter. was a swimmer my mother was a swim coach. and this woman would get up and scream. go you know she'd be like totally in her.

daughter's corner there just screaming. and yelling but you'd never see her at. any of the practices at 8: a.m. when the. kids in a pool you know they wanted the. end result this was the whole thing so. they're the ones who push the college. lie need to go to Princeton and I'm so. proud they have to go to college our. kids went to college and they they. pushed that lie because again all they. wanted to do was get their kids away. from them so that's why there were 80. activities every week you could martial. arts soccer dance class whatever it was. that they could put you in a car and put. you away they drop you off somewhere.

good luck um so College was like great. here we go we're done they went to. college you know did you go to college. no I went to a community college for two. years and dropped out I won a debate. Championship gold medal and debate and I. just dropped out of college and I went. into Finance cuz I didn't like I didn't. like what did your parents say your. Boomer. parents they were disappointed they were. thinking I would. fail they knew you well I mean so there.

two options for Bo a boomer kid a. millennial or whatever you want to call. me a Gen X or whatever uh succeeding. which they would be happy about because. they would claim total credit for it. yeah and then failing and then they. would go um well you didn't listen to us. of course you failed and I think with me. they were very much like he's going to. be a big mess and we're going to get to. tell people all the time how how you. didn't listen to anything we said and. this is what but then it it ended up it. looked like it was going one way it went.

the other way so they're fine now. they're cool with it but it's just it is. it was they didn't expect it they didn't. expect it would you re they said to me. my father's wife said to me who I do. like a lot but she said she goes how. does someone like you who made every. wrong decision in their life end up with. a house like this so but that is the way. that they that is the way they made the. right decisions does that occur to them. never never it's interesting but that is. kind of the way day you know the way. they speak the the results do sort of. tell the story right you would think.

which is why you would think you know. but um yeah they they were interesting. their their their spiritual life was. materialism yes and their um their lives. were really um about themselves more. than anyone else there's never been a. generation where it's been about them as. much as it is uh you know my aunt said. to me during Co it made me laugh she. goes we're on the phone and they I do. they just made me laugh so much she goes. she goes I hope everybody gets this.

vaccine and I said yeah she goes I hope. everyone gets this vaccine I said yeah. she goes because I want to travel and I. worked my whole life she goes I've. worked my whole life and by the way. everyone's worked their whole life of. course it's the funniest thing to say. everyone's worked their whole life like. what are you talking like okay 20 people. didn't work and they you know grew up. with whatever but like she goes. everybody better get this vaccine cuz I.

want to travel I want to go on cruises. and because I've worked my whole life. and I believe she's been retired for. about 30. years with full dental maybe 25 years. but like it is just a f it's very funny. the way that they are you know they just. it's they're perfect so you said a. minute ago that um the internet has. decentralized power and EMP powered all. these institutions and those are the. institutions that kind of decided who. was successful and who wasn't.

particularly in the entertainment. business news sports even yeah um what. does this mean for like their ability to. crush people they don't like to cancel. people they'll have to find new ways to. do it and I think they're they're. they're a little. panicked um I think it hurts their. ability to do it substantially. dramatically that way yeah I think. dramatically you said you're friends. with Louis C K yeah um who I don't know. I'm not defending Louis CK but I. remember reading the details of that and.

thinking you know okay maybe. unattractive Lou been able to have a. great career is that a crime like what. was that no not at all and he's been. able to have a phenomenal career why did. they do that to him well I mean it was a. moment in which and I don't know the. details of every single accusation in. that piece but I do know that it was a. moment where people weren't thinking. even if they were all even if everything. written about the guy that I read was. true you'd be like all right that's. embarrassing well that was a time when. it wasn't enough that someone uh admit.

to a mistake or admit it was about. destroying people it's about ending. their lives why I just think if people. get caught up in these moral panics and. they want to hurt people and this is. something deeply innate in our uh beings. that have to be uh dealt with we have to. figure out you know why we do this but. this is something that people like mobs. and they like getting right you know. their pitchforks out and I think you. know he's been able to have a phenomenal. career and he's you know made movies. he's sold that Madison score Garden he's. done all these things his fans love him.

and he's one of the greatest comedians. that's ever lived so you you have that. um but yeah it was a time when people. just wanted other people to be hurt it. wasn't enough to say I [ __ ] up no. matter who it was or what they did and I. think now I think people are people are. looking at the full the full picture of. a human being and going like you know. what I think we're all over that I'm. hoping we're all over that but there are. forces out there that um are gonna have. to adjust you know so I don't know what. they do so Lou CK was they may go back.

to killing people that's what they did. for a long that's what they did for a. long time and then they now they then. they started destroying their. reputations but before that they killed. them if you remember that yes they. people would die in all these weird ways. and cars would go off things and people. get shot in the middle of hotels and. then it just started to be like we're. just going to take out people's. reputations does seem like people a lot. of people are dying have you noticed. this and it does not not just Bing right. yeah yeah yeah it's it's yeah there's a.

lot of problems not good okay but just. back to Cas to it turns out that he not. only survived this yeah this character. assassination attempt but thrived he. thrived because his talent spoke for. itself and people know is anyone keeping. track of all the other guys who were. destroyed um I think I I I think a lot. of them are doing great I think a lot of. them are doing fine because I think as. we talked. about it's not the worst thing to have. people turn on you because it it makes. you it builds resilience you know who.

your real friends are you fall back on. your talent you lean on your talent you. lean on the things that you can do. better than anyone else and you try to. make those even better you have to be. more effective in a way yes you can't. Coast the tide will not carry you so you. have to find ways to you know create. your. own uh environment and create your own. uh inertia to move the things you're. doing forward because you don't you.

won't be carried. anymore um by the mainstream so you have. to just go and I think that's ultimately. a good thing well Sue it's bad that. people kiss your ass it's bad for your. soul do you I mean you must deal with. that no I think I deal with people that. lie to me all the time so like that is a. version of kissing your ass of course. people lie so it's it people make thing. you know they just they if they you. don't get a lot of good feedback all the. time but then there are people that I. trust to give me real feedback and.

they're not people that I'm usually. paying you start paying people that can. get complicated but there are some. people that I pay that I do trust to. give me real feedback but then there. also a lot of people that earn money off. when I earn money that tell me. everything's great all the time and and. I go I don't know if that was great they. go no it was great like their job is to. just keep you in a positive mind frame. so that you keep earning money their job. is not to bring any negative or real. things to the. Forefront I mean don't you think it's. good for you to be attacked and.

confronted and belittled and humiliated. think brought to who you really are once. again I think it's it's certainly good. if you're a creative person and you have. to create and you have to shake yourself. out of a comfort zone for sure yeah do. you get enough hate that it keeps you. human I think so I think I get enough. hate you got enough today I think I get. enough of people that don't like what I. do or say for sure I think things are. appropriately difficult meaning like I.

have friction and that's good I think. that you know people I'm not I'm not a. person who you know is uh. beloved with a lot of what I say but my. fans of people that like what I do like. me but then there are people that need. some convincing I think that's good I. think that's good I don't mind that when. I sit down with people and you know my. manager people like that will tell me. they go yeah they you know they they. like you but they don't they don't know. really who you are I think you get a lot. of similar stuff where people go well.

they have ideas about you that are not. from you they are just out there so well. I agree and I don't think there's. anything wrong with being attacked for. your actual crimes there's nothing wrong. with that and I welcome it it's being. called names that actually aren't. accurate yeah you know I once was. talking to a New York Times Reporter who. was telling me what a racist I was yeah. and and I said I'm actually I first of. all I would tell you if I was a racist. I'm really not a racist I'm I'm actually. a sexist right and which I thought was.

hilarious sort of true and I thought. what if that's a good line yeah didn't. print it no they won't print it if. someone said that to me in an interview. I would print that yeah I participated. once I I don't know a ton of I know some. people in journalism but I participated. once in this thing where like there's a. few journalists that like wanted to talk. to a comedian cuz they they were like we. want to start using more comedy and our. pieces and I was like wait what and they. they were just these these totally. unfunny like people it was just tough I.

was like guys just write the [ __ ]. news but they wanted like you know they. wanted like what did you tell them I. just said you know I don't know I think. people that are good at this stuff are. good at it you know and I I just I can't. tell you how to make something funny you. know because they were basically saying. like we think that our reach will grow. dramatically if we're funny and I go it. might grow dramatically if you reported. facts. you know that might did they laugh no. they didn't they were like well so.

that's all are there any journalists you. like or read or trust sure I mean. there's people that I read all the time. like who um I read Andrew Sullivan a lot. I don't know who agree with him but I I. think he's well worth a read I I've read. Seymour hirs every article that he. writes I you know I read uh I read um. Barry Wise I'll read the Free Press. whether I agree or. not I'll read taibi I'll read your stuff. Daily Caller people that have written. there I've I've read like you know and. then I'll read Thomas fredman I'll read.

Nicholas Crystal I'll read the Times. editor I read Washington Post I'll read. an apple bomb in the Atlantic and I. disagree with her I don't want to go to. Russia tomorrow I have an engagement. thank you I have a lunch um she's very. hyped about the Russia thing God Bless. but I have things why is she so mad at. Russia I don't know they all want to go. to war with Russia I have things what is. that I have a kitchen renovation. um and do you think by the way it's a. little weird as you're an adult man yeah. with a job it's a little weird to have. someone like an apple bam or any of.

these people like tell you what your. opinion should be yeah it's very strange. I mean she's very aggressive on this. Russia issue. and there's this. idea that I think we we have this. purpose we have a deficit of purpose in. the country yes this is what I think I. think we have a deficit of purpose I. think the elites feel it the people that. have lots and lots of uh you know time. to think about these things feel the.

deficit of purpose I think if you're. working 20 hours a day to feed your. family you don't have a deficit of. purpose but I think if you're lounging. around in a DC townhouse trying to. figure out what problems that you need. to go out and desperately solve you have. a deficit of purpose and I think this uh. idea gives them the the sense that now. we're back in World War II and there's. good and there's evil and this is the. purpose this is why we've all been on. the plan planet to uh confront the. country with the most nuclear weapons of.

any other country over two regions of. the two Northern provinces in Ukraine. which if you Google image them I mean. take it I mean truly truly and I'll give. him part of this country too there's a. lot of this country which parts uh a lot. um there's parts of it that we don't. need I'll give him part if Putin wants. it we'll give him parts of California. North Jersey yeah we'll give him some. parts of that we'll give it I I think we. should actually. let's really [ __ ] him let's give him. Upstate New York let's give him a lot of.

Michigan let's give him stuff where he. goes hey man I'm good could he fix. connecti do you think I don't know if. anyone could I was just in connecti and. I like the people there but I don't know. if anyone could I actually sat on stage. it would be nice if Putin invaded this. um what kind of response did you get. they all laugh they're great they're. great comedy they get it but yeah I mean. I think there's deficit of purpose I. think people like an apple I'm sure. she's lovely lady or whatever I I don't. think so she's a little vicious in the. the the way she writes loome yeah never. met her but she it's very aggressive. it's very like we got to go to we got to.

go to Russia and we got to fight Putin. and I I'm like is it weird some rich. girl in DC is telling other people to. fight War that's weird to me I go are. you is this a bad day thing are. you I you know I I wake up and I go I. should jog I should work I should do. better things that I don't end up doing. and I go I should you know I should have. a breakfast of just uh you know some. macrobiotic La sludge that it's more.

healthier I never think I should go to. war with Russia no I know I've never. thought of that I've never thought of. that you know I I go I should take a. road trip I should connect with an old. friend I've never. thought that I should go to war with. Russia I've never believed I never. thought that was a good way think there. aasm that they don't want you to go to. Russia um I don't know I don't know I. don't I I I think that they like. we need enemies we have a huge National. Security apparatus that relies on.

conflicts we sell a lot of weapons yes. we have a huge uh investment in that and. you know we're arming the Ukraine in. kind of an unwinable war that everybody. knew was unwinable it was incredibly. bloody and it didn't have to be and you. know this is something where the. Secretary of State Anthony blinkin went. and per performed rocket in the Free. World I don't know if you saw that I did. see it yeah mean did that Inspire. confidence it's disturbing it's crazy if. my child died in a war and then the.

secretary of state of the country that. supposedly backing us showed up to play. music I would kind of be in the middle. of the war by the way the war's not over. it would be a little disturbing to me so. it's just very strange and then you know. the Kamala Harris thing of like well. this was a bigger country that they had. a smaller country and that was her I. mean Kamal Harris is like a Brentwood. mom you know she's like a wine drunk. kind of Brentwood mom and so that's the. way a mom would explain that that's like. a Brentwood California Pacific.

Palisades you know tuna tartar chard mom. explains that she goes it's a bigger. country and they've invaded a smaller um. so that's the level of uh understanding. they want us to have of of any conflict. but maybe so maybe that's not the truth. is what you're suggesting yeah but. imagine it's not I imagine it's not. everybody that I've spoken to respect. people like RFK and everything there's a. whole narrative that nobody's read about. nobody understands the war was ongoing.

since. 2014 because we weren't paying attention. doesn't why did these Minsk Accords not. get. signed why I mean like you know what do. you think it's really about actually I. think it's about you know I I think you. know when when when people like an apple. bum write that Russia is a failed State. and we need to westernize it this is in. the Atlantic it's a failed State she's. written these things and this is a. common maybe a state you don't like it's. the opposite of a failed State it's a. coherent State yeah you cannot like it.

it's been around for a thousand years. it's not my I remember when it was my. job to give shopping malls to. Afghanistan to Afghan I remember that oh. you do I remember when I was a senior. year in high school and everybody goes. here's what we're doing we're going to. Afghanistan and Iraq we're going to. democratize the Middle East this was the. project yeah now these Psychopaths want. to democratize Russia back then they. were Republicans now they're calling. themselves Democrats it doesn't seem to. matter they float between the two. parties on MSNBC now all the time and I. remember I'm old enough to remember that. what I mean how did we leave Afghanistan.

20 years later does it seem democratized. the taliban's in power we should have. had a 5year moratorium on any conflicts. after that after 20 years and the. Taliban goes back in power it should be. like it's like if you have a party armed. by us yeah if you have a party at your. house and it burns down your parents. should go you're done now you're done in. our new house you don't have any parties. un you got a really established that. you've grown and learned from this uh. that was crazy to me so when all these. people make these arguments I go doesn't.

really make sense that we would be doing. this again do you feel that changing. like to the extent that you're with. Brentwood wine moms now they are they. less enthusiastic about the brave. Ukrainian people they don't care they. don't care one cares no one really care. it's just fun to pretend to care no one. cares no one no one unless you're from. the Ukraine or or you live in the. Ukraine no one cares at all it is not. even a real thing you know if it comes.

up at a dinner people go terrible. terrible. horrible do they have the sticky toffee. pudding no it's not real it's not on our. shore it's doesn't affect us it is no we. don't fight we just arm people we send. money we don't care it's not it's the. Israel Gaza thing it's not real people. get very upset. but none of these things affect us. because we can watch them but they're. not impacting our daily lives they're.

not impacting our daily lives and so the. government now if the government said to. us now they they're starting to do these. really interesting things they're going. we need the draft we want that we want. to do that again Germany's thinking. about that we're thinking military times. TR an article where they're like. Selective Service uh we should we should. reinstate the draft um there so now. people how about you go [ __ ] yourself. how's that sound that's right go ahead. do that and then we can talk people are. starting to perk their ears up now that. changes everything people start to go.

wait a minute what's going on because. they're. clearly preparing for something huge. this is in the cards you can feel it. it's you talk to military people about. it they're kind of um they kind of go. well that it's there's a I don't even. know if they know but there's something. om that they're preparing for just you. can feel it that they're preparing for. something big they're floating all these. ideas about drafts we haven't heard.

these for 20 30 years not even when. supposed to remember terrorists were. going to blow up every city in America. we didn't hear about the draft we didn't. hear about the draft when terrorists. were going to blow up everything you're. going to be sitting at a lunch table is. going to blow up we didn't hear about. the draft now we're hearing about the. draft something's coming I don't know. what's coming but something ominous. they're planning for something and if. you can kind of feel it I mean I don't. know if that's something you've picked. up or you you think cly maybe you think. maybe I'm being dramatic I you're not. being dramatic and I mean it's as simple.

as they can't lose the war against. Russia that we're waging we're waging a. war against Russia it's not Ukraine. Ukraine Macon and France going NATO. troops in Ukraine remember when they. were trying to enforce a no fly zone I. remember doing a show in the Warner. Theater in DC was a great theater and. I'm like what the I mean I'm like you. know a no-fly zone enforcing that. guarantees a hot War an actual war with. Russia immediately overnight that's. right immediately as soon as they and. they were s they were they were two. years ago and they were saying let's do.

it I remember very well you know and I. was like I was going withit minut guys. what the [ __ ] we're going to war with. Russia tomorrow I was like what's going. on I said we've done enough with the. sanctions what did we take out of we. took out Taco Bell there you go you we. said no McDonald's dramatically improved. the country no McDonald's we took out. all the poison food and I said. listen we've done enough I remember. talking to Louis about it I was like. making Lou like put it's just so crazy. like there's just something about all. these celebrities clamoring for a war.

with Russia I go there's something. strange about this there's something. weird and I I don't know what it comes. from this need to and I but they are. preparing you can feel it you can feel. it when macron goes maybe we should have. NATO trips in France and when Germany. goes maybe we should have a draft and. you go what's wait a minute what's. happening what is happening something so. but I mean you said a minute ago that. there's no chance Ukraine quote Ukraine. which is really NATO which is really the. United States can win against a nation. with 100 million more people in deeper.

industrial capacity like the whole thing. was stupid from day one when it's not. winnable right yeah but what which is. true but what if we quite obviously lose. then it means after years of well we've. already almost lost in the way if you. think about this Russia Putin has purged. um this people that were disloyal in the. the government he's Consolidated power. he's open into bigger trading. relationship with China India uh. Pakistan Brazil I believe um economic.

production and the companies up uh you. know the industrial Productions up uh he. evaded all these sanctions pretty much. they were wages have gone up wages have. gone he's in a stronger position now. than he's ever been of course after this. policy this country is thriving ours is. not yeah like it's a weird thing to look. at that situation and go. he kind of has already won in that sense. if the goal was to strengthen him which. it clearly wasn't the goal is to bleed.

out the Russian military it hasn't. worked but I do think they're trying. there's something else is going to. happen I don't know what they're going. to do but they're so but if if it. becomes really obvious like with the. Afghan pull out that like we lost that's. right all the those words that we've. been throwing at you for the last two. and a half years they were fake we are. powerless we are weak and now we have no. credibility it's totally discrediting. right for Tony blinkin Hillary Clinton. all these right all the monsters in. charge of wrecking our country are. humiliated you can't have that right cuz. it's about them it's not about us it's.

about them yeah it's and you know we. we're going to probably commit more. money to that situation and I could even. see a situation where and I hope we're. not stupid enough to do this but they. are starting to float this idea of like. the money's not. enough and I I don't know what's next. but we know what's next we don't want. what's next you know when when people go. well we might need truth troops we. should have NATO troops well this is. what they're doing they're going we. should have NATO peacekeeping force it's. very interesting recently they've gone.

what about some NATO peacekeeping forces. there let's just put some I mean this is. like what does it mean to drop a quote. peacekeeping Force into a war where are. the NATO peacekeeping forces in Gaza. where are the NATO peacekeeping forces. are they not on the way in Rafa are they. not there where is that NATO. peacekeeping force in Ukraine we know. what's we know what happens next and. it's a full-blown war and that's. terrible it's World War I but it sounds. like that's accelerating it seems to be. I mean again I'm no genius but I pick up.

on little clues that are out there and I. go huh it seems and Mike Johnson the new. speaker is not going to stop it you. think I don't think he's gonna stop it. no I don't think anyone's gonna stop I. don't think anyone what's your read on. him I need more evidence I mean he seems. sort of like an you like an empty suit a. little bit I mean that seems to be my. vague or reflection generic. understanding of him as sort of like an. empty suit controlled yeah I feel like.

he's you know there is and it's not. party specific but there are interests. that are just bigger than the parties. and it is a lot of you know that we have. 22 intelligence agencies most people can. name three yes four um we have a a. pentagon that's incredibly you know well. fun I'm not saying we shouldn't have a. mil milary or intelligence agencies but. none of these people are elected we. don't really know what any of them are. doing and we don't really know the.

rationale for why they're doing certain. things um and those things never come up. to a vote you know nobody votes on even. like our immigration policy nobody ever. voted on that nobody ever said well. here's what I think should no they've. refused to have a vote on yeah they. haven't had a vote on it how can people. I mean so we're mad that you know about. invasions around the world and we're. spending Untold billions to stop. invasions but at the same time we've had. millions of military AG men come into. our country because there's no border no. one's ignoring that as they're staring.

so intently at these foreign conflicts. what is that well the most compassionate. thing to do is invade countries make. them unlivable and then have their. people come over here and cut your grass. but clearly that's what's going on. that's all that's going on yeah it's. we're we're destabilizing whole regions. of the world a lot of those regions you. know are are coming into America and. there's just no plan I mean obviously. there should be something type of uh you. know I I just don't think that all these. people that uh you know in Greenwich.

Connecticut for example you know I I I. don't know I can't imagine just from. knowing some of them they barely like. each other in the house right there's no. way they love El salvadorians there's. just no way that they want and it's not. because they're El Salvador it's just. like they don't even like each other. they don't like the neighbor there's no. way that they love the the nation of. Guatemala they want people to work for. less money than they can pay Americans I.

mean this is just truth and they want. nobody wants to talk about it but you. look at La La is there tons of that. gardeners people building houses people. you know and you know you have it all. over the place rich people get a lot out. of having people come to this country. and they don't have to pay them so how. is it different from. feudalism having a lot of surfs not too. different it's not too different I'm. sure there's a lot of people come to the. country they good people they want to.

feed their families and work and you. know they end up being abused and they. end up in a situation that isn't good. and this is you know like you know this. is like this kind of idea that we can. just. import um. all of these people everybody and then. there's not going to be significant. growing pains and how many people we can. assimilate into a physical space and a. cultural space and a financial space and.

nobody's being honest about any of those. Growing Pains nobody's even saying it's. a mixed bag nobody's even saying it's. good and bad everyone's going no it's. great and if you don't like it you're a. Nazi that is why you see all over Europe. and and a lot of people electing leaders. that are anti-immigration anti-migration. because they themselves understand that. there are downsides significance Sweden. is now you know the most dangerous one. of the most dangerous countries there's.

all kinds of Articles being written. about Sweden that the crime rates have. gone up dramatically over the last 10. years well what's happened over the last. 10 years right so people why do the. swedes put up with it or why do why do. Americans put up with it what what is it. about people in the west I'll just say. it white people who like they just feel. like they can't complain or something. well I think there's there's there's. twofold number one certain people. benefit from so certain people go well. the maid The Nanny I'm getting my nails. done uh we've got cheaper help at the.

beach club or whatever it is there are. people that have a direct benefit from. it there are people that you know feel. like um they ignore any potential. negative or downside because they feel. like um they have a lot of guilt for. whatever reason maybe it's the colonial. period of the 17 18th centuries or they. feel like like uh that the right thing. to do is just to ignore any potential. downside to immigration because they.

feel guilty about how the country was. established or how people were treated. or any of that that feeds into that. mindset even though if you go back. obviously before the 17th and 18th. century slavery was all over the world. Conquest was all over the world people. were killing each other different races. were subjugating and killing other races. people fought over land religion the way. I mean it was it was mad house it was. plunder it was violence this was the way. of the world if you but most people. don't have any knowledge of like the. ancient world they don't have any.

knowledge of of anything past that. period of colonialism is where most. people start their knowledge of history. and in that period the West is seen as. the you know the enemy of anything that. is good and so the guilt that gets uh. embedded into people is then I think. manifested in these conversations about. immigration where it's like listen it's. to me it's very economic there's times. when the country will need more. immigrants and there's times when the.

country will need less but there's. probably um a way to kind of decide who. comes into the country we should be able. to check their background to make sure. that they are not terrorist they're not. dangerous they're not doing these things. I don't think that's an unreasonable ass. well if you're importing millions of. people over 10 million people um with no. education and no skills Hightech skills. at exactly the moment when technology AI. is going to eliminate millions of jobs.

especially low-end jobs yeah what is. that that it seems crazy what seems like. int intentional harm yeah well it. certainly seems that that the people. don't really care I don't think people. care I think that's you know you drive. through I think a lot of people have. just written off large swats of the. country I travel around doing comedy all. over the country you see places where. people go they've given up on this. they've given up they don't care I. remember Detroit when people just went. oh that's bankrupt there it's done you. know it's coming back now but it was in. American city people just went we don't.

care and people gave up um you know this. is this happens all over the place and I. think so you're an real estate investor. and a Non-Stop traveler I travel a lot. yeah so where are the places that you. think are promising over the next 20. years South Florida uh anywhere south of. Jupiter I mean I think East Coast yeah. East Coast there there there's a. business climate there that people like. people just like people like the the.

thing that's happened with California. which was a beautiful and amazing and a. great state it's. like there's this idea that you you. can't do it in California it's so hard. there's so many regulations everything. costs so much money the houses cost so. much money it really is a dream and it's. kind of a pipe dream and New York is. becoming like that too there are these. places that have become so unattained. able for people that they're going. elsewhere and and they're going to Texas. they're going to Florida and it's not.

always political either it's some of it. is but some of it is economic do sound. political yeah no it's people that are. like sounds way deeper I can't afford to. live here and then the value of what I'm. getting for my money is not worth it. anymore you know if I'm living in Venice. Beach California but somebody climbs. over my wall and decapitates my wife I. don't care that the Mexican food is. better right there is something you know. there's a tradeoff yeah so I think. that's happening but South Florida is is. good I think that um you know there's.

Texas I think central Texas is still. going to grow I think it's slowed down. Austin was like a boom during the. pandemic Central Texas I think will grow. I think like Idaho I think any of those. areas obviously Montana all those areas. are getting very expensive um but you. know Idaho I think you know climate wise. is going to be pretty good any of those. mountainous regions that are incredibly. pretty and you know I think they're. they're not going to be 115° and stuff.

so I think a lot of people will probably. migrate in that area I think Hudson New. York that area anywhere that's an hour. and a half two hours out of a city. because people are working remote or. they're they're working two or three. days a week areas like that I think that. Hudson Valley is going to be big you. know what about the West Coast you know. I mean listen Arizona certainly if you. could take the heat not a not a coast. you know no no I mean I mean Washington. Oregon I think Washington state of all.

of those Washington State um has is the. most resilient I think Portland is tough. I think that unless they reverse a lot. of their policies it's going to be tough. but I think the lifestyle of the West. Coast Washington State's a beautiful. state Seattle's a little bit of a mess. but most people live there not to live. in Seattle they live there to live the. mountains and the lakes it's beautiful I. think Washington State I think their tax. system is a little better and I think. that there's a lot of people I I would. say that that area holds and builds in.

the west coast you know and I think in. you know I think Orange County. California which is about an hour and a. half south of La where the da actually. prosecutes crime and people feel better. raising their families there and they. get that you know lifestyle of being by. the beach and things like that I think. that holds um and hopefully San. Francisco's get reversed and gets better. and I don't know I I I tend to think. that it may come back I don't know but. you know that would be a hope to what.

about home ownership like you grew up in. a world you're not even that old where. people own their homes like middle class. people owned homes is that. over it seems to. be over in the sense that it's becoming. more and more difficult I think for. people. now to there's tradeoff owning a home. owning a home is not perfect for. everybody it's not right for everybody. it's not you know always ideal it is. ideal for people that have the finances.

to do it and to to live you know and to. um I think it's be I think people are. looking at their lives now and they're. going the amount of money and work and. all the things that we're going to have. to do to own this home just make kill us. and that it shouldn't be that way but I. think that's what's happening so I think. the trade-offs now are much higher why. is anyone running on home ownership that. was like a pillar of American soci you. got to shut down the real real estate. Lobby you got to shut down all these. people you have to stop you know but. they're like the worst people in the. world I know they're the worst but.

people won't tell you know there's this. idea that and I think again it's like we. are a capitalist country I'm a. capitalist I think it's great to make. money but I do think that there is a. point where consolidation you have all. these companies you have three or four. companies running everything doing. everything you're preventing the spirit. of capitalism you're preventing small. businesses you're preventing competition. you're preventing all these things and. you become like kind of a you know you. have this conglomerate of all of these. different um multinational corporations.

that just are these nameless faceless. blobs that own the government I mean. it's just hard to imagine you know. people opening a restaurant starting a. bed and breakfast uh you know opening a. hardware store opening a business they. can't do it and I think that now owning. a home is the new opening a business. where it's like I remember like 20 years. ago people like we can't open a business. would you nuts now it's like people. going oh I can't own a home so cuz I. remember people in this country used to. open businesses that was also a thing. people used to actually have a business.

and work for themselves that has all. been put out I mean there's still people. doing that but it's very few and. corporations run everything you go to. New York City everything's a Chase Bank. everything's a steakhouse that has 15. locations everything is a you know and. it used to be like Mom and Pop diners. and stuff that had great food and it. weren't that expensive ensive and like. you maybe you waited a little longer. maybe there was an attitude maybe. there's a crazy person there who ran the. place who was kind of an eccentric but.

it was fun now everything is Corporate I. mean every sushi restaurant looks like. every Steakhouse and they all look like. hedge funds you know what I mean like. you go in every place and you're like. what do the hedge fund look like just. kind of marble and and like a neurology. clinic right so everything and I know. you're big on architecture so that's one. of my things too is it's like the. sameness of everything how hollow and. corporate it is um it's designed to just. you know exist primarily on a screen um.

and you know it's like you know you lost. a lot that's the thing people people go. oh who cares people small businesses. like no but the country you live in. fundamentally different you see. different things physically different. physically different why does nobody. notice that nobody notices nobody cares. people are just they're just being. ushered into this new thing and nobody's. asking everything is the same 10. corporations it's the same 20. restaurants you know you go to you go to. any town and you have the football. stadium the baseball stadium you have uh. the two two chain steakhouses everyone's.

heard of a Cheesecake Factory a mall a. bad area uh some some like. historic place no one goes you know and. uh a Marriott a Hilton a nice old hotel. that's kind of broken down but is kind. of like charming and it has a brunch on. a Sunday and then it's surrounded by 45. minutes to an hour of Urban Decay that's. every city in America outside of 10. where's the resistance like when I was a. kid there was a group called Earth First. which I made fun of cuz they were like. liberals or whatever right now I sort of.

love them but there's nothing like it. left and they would just go put sugar in. the gas tank of bulldozers you know were. trying to clearcut Woods to build a. development and their point they were. kind of kazinsky ites well corporations. have done a great job of going we love. you we like you we actually think you're. great we we think it's great um we're. Progressive we we everything you're into. we're into uh everything that you know. the internet says is good we're kind of. We Vibe with uh we totally are we're.

open everything we're going to do. everything you want if you want a black. female CEO you're G to get one you're. not gonna we're not stopping the sweat. shops but you're going to get you're. going to get a black female CEO you. might you know you we can get anything. you want we will do anything you want. you want a polyamorous orgy here at. Chase we'll do it we'll do it we're. going to for close on everyone's house. but we'll do that and they keep moving. the goalpost around where you're kind of. confused you go what exactly is. happening and that's why I'm amazed at.

their ability to do that when we grew up. we always looked at these corporate Wall. Street guys oh you're all [ __ ]. criminals yes and you know we're. watching our own backs even though we. know you need to make money and maybe. there's a way for us to make money. together but we always got to watch our. backs the tech people are now very much. like we're utopians we're great we're. good everything's good good we drink. green juices we ride bikes we care about. the environment we care about you um and. that's it and you know all the.

14-year-olds are killing themselves. because of our product but we're good. people and there's something really. scary about people that come to you it's. always very and I'm just the type of guy. where if somebody comes to me out of. nowhere and goes hi I care about you I. love you and I care about you and I want. you to have the best life ever and I go. cool what what's this about so I know. what's coming next. which is rape yeah what's coming next is. just getting his.

van so I think we have a situation where. the tech people kind of saying get in. the. [Laughter]. van I hate this is I can't believe I'm. saying this but that's like a brilliant. analysis yeah really smart I'm not I'm. not inviting you into the van yeah. that's a sincere praise uh so that's. like um a much more effective but also a. much more sort of female approach yeah. rather than just like you know just do.

oldfashioned fascism or oldfashioned. feudalism like I'm the Lord You're the. surf if you don't like it I'm going to. flog you yeah there's something kind of. straightforward and less threatening. about that right yes I mean there's. something straightforward about knowing. people's. intentions intentions are big and if. they're out in the open I'm much more. comfortable if I know why if I walk. into uh if you walk on a car lot and. somebody comes up to you to sell you a.

car it's completely understandable. whether that person's honest or not. whether they're going to give you a good. deal or not you know exactly what. they're trying to do and you know what. their end goal is they want to sell you. a car so they can money. their when someone's trying to remake. the world you live in for your. benefit and you have no idea why they're. trying to do it and you have no idea. what it will look like you have no. concept of what this world is going to. look like we were all promis this world.

is this Tech world going to connect. everybody everybody all this stuff and. the free and open exchange of ideas and. information what has kind of become is. this lonely isolating thing where. everybody you know teenagers are being. severely damaged by uh these products. that are out there it's it's not good. there are people that are their mental. health has deteriorated on these. platforms right um and you know there. doesn't seem to be any accountability. nobody cares there's a few books about. it and there's a few people that are.

upset about it it's also very co-opted. by you know you also have the political. angle too where it's like everybody's. talking about banning Tik Tok and I'm. sure Tik Tok has spyware andone else but. everyone's talking about it because kids. are now sitting down at the table with. their family and watching the Gaza stuff. they're going why are we shooting this. baby in the face and their family is. going well you know I don't know there's. a very good reason there's a good reason. for it and I want you to focus on your. driving test and you go yeah but they're. lighting these people on fire and so now.

all these kids are getting information. from Tik Tok and nobody likes it nobody. likes it so now it's going now it's. gonna go oh so it's not Banning Tik Tok. is not an effort a last ditch effort to. save us from China I don't think they. yeah no they don't care about your kids'. mental health I don't think they ever. have I don't think they're interested in. your kids' mental health they're not. interested in your mental health they're. not interested in the mental health of. uh anybody so they're certainly not. interested in your kids mental health. and they're not Banning Tik Tok because. they care about your kids mental health. that's just completely untrue now you.

know I I'm not saying that Tik tok's an. innocuous thing I'm sure there's things. in Tik Tok that I'm unaware of but their. reasons for it are. not the ones you're saying what's your. relationship with technology I use it. for work I have to use it um but like be. specific go. through enabled me to make uh a career. out of what I do so I'm very excited. about it I think we have to live with it.

it's not something we could become Lites. and just you know I I go on my you know. I I have you know. I'll post clips of things I've done I. will read a lot so I read I go to Drudge. I read all these things y every day I. read a lot and then I go to Instagram. and you know things like that and I post. where I'm going to be and sell you know. here I'm going to be here if you want to. come see me or if I'm going to do. whatever and then you know I go in and. record a podcast usually once or twice a. week twice a week every week and then.

you know the clips are cut I post the. clips and everything like that it's a. relatively healthy relationship you. can't start reading about your I don't. read about myself Rogan taught me that. he's like don't read about yourself and. he's right um good or bad he's right to. just ignore it and do what you're going. to do so smart he's right about 100% of. that so I don't really read about it but. you know I don't I I didn't grow up I. remember growing up without it I. remember not having uh access to a. smartphone until I was probably in you.

know Blackberry was uh I was in college. you're not even 40 though right yeah I'm. 39 but I was kind of late to the game. you so it sounds like you um probably in. the last year of American children not. to marinate in technology from birth. yeah we were the last year we were half. in half out like we were certainly not. marinating it from birth we we we were a. generation of people that started and. some of us were more savvy than others. but it started in middle school but no.

it didn't come on anywhere nearly as. strong as it comes on for kids now. because we didn't have smartphones. attached to us you know I mean I had a. flip phone in high school it was like. who care you could call your friends. exact text but it wasn't you weren't. inundated all day with these things but. do you make an it sounds like you make. an effort just to answer your question. for you yeah to connect with people. directly rather than just yes I love. going and seeing people I I believe in. that I'll go out I'll leave the Earth.

doing that meaning like I don't want to. be a part of the I mean I might have to. to some degree to be for my career but I. don't want to be in a metaverse I don't. want to be in a virtual world I don't. that that has no appeal to me it sounds. like you literally fly around to see. people I do yeah I do yeah no one does. that yeah I know it's interesting I know. it's important to see people stay in. their bubbles I like to see people all. the time I like to talk to people but. physically yeah yeah you got to be in. there's something about a friendship. that I believe needs a physical.

Dimension it doesn't mean you have to. see them all the time but like the idea. that you can have dinner with someone. even if it's once or twice a year but. the idea that you can be in their. presence is important to me and it's not. just somebody that exists uh you know. online in the digital and you don't just. do that for work reasons no I do it. socially I do it to see people yeah I. want to know what's going on I don't. think you know what's going on reading. texts I agree completely yeah is that. why you've managed to stay sane despite. being on the road all the time well I.

mean San's a relative term but I think. it helps it helps to see people and get. out of the world of the you know. whatever the entertainment business is. and just see see friends and people that. are raising kids and have businesses and. have lives and live in different parts. of the country and are excited about. different things and are have challenges. I don't have and have the aspirations. that I find very interesting and helping. them in any way that I can or or going. there to like you know just hang out. with them and their families it's. important to me to go and see the actual. people living life I'm I'm a big fan of.

that and I yeah I think people staying. in a place I understand that people have. to do it there was economic conditions. in my life where I had to do it um but. now that I have the ability to kind of. go and travel and meet people it's I. think it's a cool thing to do how do you. not go crazy on the road all the. time um it's difficult I think it's. difficult I. because I have to record the show every. I'm always somewhere where I have to do. the podcast twice a week so I try to.

like I said when I'm on the road I try. to bookend things where I can visit. friends see people old friends of mine. will come out to a show and we'll go out. and grab dinner take a walk around their. neighborhood there is something to me. about trying to connect with people that. I it wasn't as important to me now I'm. older it's become really important it. wasn't important to me you know if you. came to me even five six years go I. would go who cares you know now if. someone out of nowhere goes hey we went. to high school together uh and and I'm. like and they're even weirded out by.

they go I I saw your performing. everything and I go what are you doing. and they're like uh I don't know I'm. like I got nothing to do on Saturday and. I will go to their house we'll take. walks we'll I want to connect with. people now I think so you do not spend. 12 hours in a hotel room no no no no I. try my hardest to meet people that I. know or or go to a place I find. interesting you must have a million. people who spend their lives like you do. on the road and they all kind of go.

insane or get addicted to something. weird I don't think you can do it. forever so I think I'm 39 I think I've. got a few years left I don't think I'll. be doing this forever on the road I do. believe that I do believe that there's. an end point to it sorry agents um but I. do believe that eventually you have to. say like okay I've done enough and I've. seen enough and this has been great but. I'm going to do it a lot less frequently. so I don't think but there's lot of. people that listen everybody battles. with things on the road the road is a. difficult place to be because you're. taken out of your environment you're.

dropped in this thing and the Comforts. that people look to I mean we're all. everybody battles different things out. there you know drugs food sex uh lying. you know cheating gambling whatever it. is that you are um you have issues with. the road makes it come out so you have. to like you have to keep Vigilant about. certain things so that you're not in. like uh you know you don't get into. trouble yeah I mean that's why touring. musicians di it right 27 right that's.

right yeah for sure they live Hard how. many years have you done it I've been on. the road now probably. about consistently since about. 201 18 2017 2018 okay so we're under. it's under 10 years you know it's been. even before that I was doing stuff but. it was much less yeah I wasn't like. going all over the place I was like. staying kind of yeah I was in New York.

and I would go like to Connecticut or. Pennsylvania or Boston or DC but now I'm. doing a lot more and I'm all over the. country and then we travel. internationally too so it's definitely. what's the worst you've ever. bombed I did. um good question I did uh used to do. these fundraisers in Long Island you. would get booked and they were bad rooms. for comedy that have these circular. tables where people are eating dinner. with each other and then you would be in. the corner of the room with a microphone.

and they would bring you up and a lot of. times you'd be following a a performer. or a somebody this was a woman who was. crying her daughter died of cancer and. she was like she was a fighter and we. love her and everyone's clapping and. then the guy gets up and goes now we. have a. comedian and I went up I'm doing jokes. about like frozen yogurt and stuff and. it just didn't it was bad it was bad it. was bad because it was utter disinterest. there's bombing where people hate you. and you can almost feed off the energy. hatred and then there's utter. disinterest there's utter like God this.

was a bad idea and we're checked out and. the worst thing is you knowing it was a. bad idea it was a terrible idea I. shouldn't be there and we shouldn't have. done this what's what joke is offending. people more than any other I have a bit. about the Ukraine people don't like. really I do yeah what do you say um well. I can't say it here because then no one. will see me but no I'm kidding uh it's. it's uh what do I say I. say what do I say I say. um I describe a scene where I say this.

guy zinsky you know I said I don't like. him he's ripped he's good-looking and he. wants money there's nothing worse than a. good-look guy that can't have he doesn't. know where to get any money I go he he. pops up in the middle of the Grammy. Awards when you're just trying to watch. wet ass [ __ ] with your children yeah. and I said you called them into the room. and you bring out your pregnant. 12-year-old and she's twerking and the. living room and your other kid comes out. and they're nonverbal and they're just. in the back kind of SW then this guy. from a country you've never heard of.

wants money and I go Vladimir Putin's. maybe not a great guy but so far he's. asked me for zero dollars I agree and I. and you know people some people did not. like it they didn't like it some people. didn't like some people like it but it's. F you know to me it's F it's just funny. the idea of what a mess a lot of the. people are in this country that we're. asking for money and that makes me laugh. the idea that they're like I'm just. describing this crazy scene and then the. guy and then they're like wait the I. mean it is just funny to me it's just.

funny to me the idea that it's like this. you got to get you know these so. important it's absolutely more it's more. important than your own children yeah so. that was kind of the you've never been. to Russia right I've never been I tried. to go we went on a tour we were in. Finland which is close very close border. and I was standing in my hotel lobby. going I want to go to St Petersburg for. dinner and the woman's like we're a NATO. country I go great I would really like. to go I said I'll fly private I'll pay.

she goes no no no you can't go to Russia. so and and then I think one of your. buddies texted me one of your guys said. that uh cuz I asked I said how do I get. in because you have to go through a. non-n country you got to go through. whatever turkey or Serbia I was like Ah. that's a whole thing so but I wanted to. go I wanted to go to dinner it's a great. restaurant I wanted to go to are you. going to go I would love to go yeah I. mean I I've never. um I've never been but I like it you. know it's there's tons of beautiful. architecture and you know great rest.

yeah I want to go back you should come. let's go I'm I'm into it I'm into it. would your agent drop you if you went no. you sure no I don't think so he might. book me in Russia no my agents a real. money grubbing. monster really he's a real monster so I. might be in lvia on a corner like this. but with a a microphone but yeah what. you saying so your agent has never like. had moral qualms with anything you do my. agent wouldn't know what a moral quam. was if you ex took out a dictionary and.

explained it to him he's a good guy he. um you know I'm I'm would it be his. favorite thing that I was in Russia. perhaps not but he wouldn't drop me is. there anything you could do that would. make him drop you sure. absolutely um you know I mean I think. they drop you for all kinds of reasons. but I don't know. I I I would say the most dangerous thing. for me to do that would get my agency to. drop me would be to like like assert my.

Humanity I am not an animal I am a man. yeah that would be tough I think that. would be hard last question do you um so. of all the comedians working. today the top ones what percentage of. those are s saying exactly what they. really think most of them and I think. that. the really good ones are funny and I. think the most important thing is to be. funny and then you know a lot of times. that is comes from a place of saying.

what you feel yeah and sometimes it. comes from a place of of creating great. characters and it can come from many. different places but certainly if you. know you say what you want and you take. ownership of it and you say it in a way. that people find funny or interesting. that's the job that's the only job. that's why it's a great job is because. it's really like the second oldest job. and the oldest job I you know I don't. think I'd be great at um um I certainly. wouldn't command the prices I do in the.

second oldest job which is being kind of. a town crier just yeah it's all we do is. you know we're standing in the town. square and going hey hey what's going. you know and so I think a lot of them. are saying what and I think that that's. that's going to be the major shift I. think people that's what people are. connecting to and I think it's just. interesting like the guys who dominated. the business 10 years. ago not all but many seem to be in. terminal Decline and those yeah some of. them seem like people who are sort of. reading a script or or who approach. their job with a lot of things they were.

not allowed to say well I think it's ch. the the the the the the the platforms. change the you know what was TV is now. the internet yes what was film is now. all digital for the most part there are. films and everything um and the. platforms the internet has a lot more. freedom there are a lot of restrictions. and there are all kinds of profit models. and you know monetization issues with. all kinds of sites and whatever but in.

if you look at it overall there's a lot. more freedom on the internet than there. is in a corporate Advertiser. supported. Network so the freedom to say things now. has. increased um and I think a lot of the. people that existed 10 years ago weren't. part of that system so maybe if they. were maybe they would have had you know. maybe they would have felt more. comfortable I think they just came up at.

a time when there were censors and. everything you said had to go through. standards and practices and sales and. advertising and you know you you you had. to have all these and you can still do. really funny great stuff with all that. but on the Internet it's kind of the. Wild West so you have more freedom now. than you did it feels like a lot of. freedom it feels like people are saying. kind of exactly what they think right. now I think so I think and so how long. can that I mean that's a threat I think. it's also we all feel not to be cryptic. but I do feel like not that we're you.

know I don't want to do the whole like. we're living Our Last Days thing but it. does feel like times are too uh like I. feel like we you know things are getting. hot all over the world yes and I think. people realize the value now of being. just let's get out with it it's like. when people when they're dying they just. kind of say what they need to say. I think as our society is dying a little. bit people are saying what they need to. say I think the time for politeness has. gone out the window and niceties and I.

think people are kind of embracing just. the truth of what they have to say. because we are living you know in times. that are that are certainly you know. wild and perilous and you know you're. looking at Russia and China and all. these things North Korea and you're. looking at problems in your own country. fent and all this that and the other. thing and it's like you know the idealic. uh idea of America has kind of been. shattered and I think a lot of people. are picking up the pieces of that and. they're like listen if I'm going to live. in this country and I'm going to exist. in this time I'm going to speak and say.

what I want are we going to look back in. five years and see this as like this. sort of brief Renaissance of free speech. before the onslaught of. totalitarianism well hopefully not but. does it yeah I mean it does seem all of. a sudden like out of nowhere and even in. the past two months. yeah that there is actual Free Speech. yeah I don't I don't think I hope that. that isn't the case I don't know I I.

don't have a crystal ball but but how. can you continue to run this country in. the way that you are if you're the. people who are running it and allow. people to criticize you this. precisely you have to make it. financially beneficial you know I mean I. think that's the whole thing right like. they are going to co-opt the methods of. distribu. to a degree that you know if we call. them pedophiles they'll make money from.

it. that's wow is that dark that's like. they're not going to get cold pedophiles. for free that's the darkest thing I've. ever heard so they're not going to shut. down the speech they're just going to. monetize it monetize the attacks on. seems to be a happy. medium I'm going to stop there to give. myself time to think about what you just. said thank you very much for having me. by the way and thank you for dinner and. everything I really appreciate it I know. you hate compliments but that was that.

was there was some profound well well. that's good well thank you than much Tim. Dylan appreciate it thank you. buddy thanks for watching our YouTube. channel we hope you'll subscribe to it. and by the way you can hit the little. Bell on there and get notifications. every time we produce a video we hope. you'll do that also so.