RFK Jr: Teaming up With Trump, Pavel Durov’s Arrest, CIA, and the Fall of the Democrat Party

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So people were shocked. I know a lot of people you know. well, we're shocked when you endorse. Trump. I was not shocked because. for all the areas where you disagree. on specific issues, there's. a consistent theme that I've noticed. in both of your lives, which is. you've both spent the majority of. your life, well, in your case, your. whole life in the American ruling.

class. And both of you decided. that it was corrupt and that you. were going to say so out loud at. great risk, at great risk. to both of you. And so it was. probably just a matter of time. before you aligned in some way. Is that how you see it? Yeah. I mean, I. you know, I think there's been a. bunch of realignments about. political realignments by about 4 or. 5 throughout American history. And I think we're going through one. right now with the Democratic Party.

and with both political parties. really changing in a very dramatic. way. And you and I talked, earlier about. the transformation of a Republican. Party into the party of. environmentalism. Yeah. And, you know, the Democratic. Party has one out, one environmental. issue, which is carbon orthodoxy, which ends up benefiting, you know, the oil companies and. Blackrock and, Goldman. Sachs with offshore. wind and carbon capture,

you know, $100 billion carbon. capture projects, which is just a strip mining. in the middle class. And that's the only issue you can. talk about in the Democratic Party. I got into the environmental. movement to do habitat protection. and to do wildlife conservation, to get toxics out of our kids. Amen. And none of these are issues. that Democrats. It's a party itself. Democrats care about them, but the. party itself doesn't. There's been these big, profound. realignments. And it's not only on. that issue. It's really.

the, you know, the domination. of, this, this corrupt merger of. state corporate power. And it's happening in Washington, DC. now, where, our democracy has really been. subverted by. the industries that have taken over. the regulatory agencies and they. and transform them into sock. puppets or. corporate profit taking and, and basically wholly owned.

subsidiaries of the industries. they're supposed to regulate. And the Democrats, for. a variety of reasons. And I watch it happen over many, many years, have, have clung. to this. illusion of these democratic. institutions that they're still. democratic and they have a we. all have the capacity. to judge ourselves on our intentions. rather than our actions. Right. And I've been there.

So and the Democratic. Party judged itself. It sees itself, my friends. who are Democrats see. themselves as part of the. the good guys, the white hats. and that, you know, it's kind of like the, the. good guys who are in Fort Apache. surrounded by, you know, the, the. forces of barbarism that are about. to storm the gate. And they're the only ones the only. way to keep it at bay.

is to elect a president. who, has dementia. And because you're voting for the. apparatus. Yes. And you're not voting for, you. know, even or another, than to handpick a presidential. candidate without any elections, to basically get rid of democracy. in order to save it and. handpick a candidate. who in 40. days now has not given. a single interview.

on any media outlet. And I think about one my uncle and. father would think about that. You know, they prided themselves on. on being able to go on and. debate was the centerpiece. You know, that a whole, you know, function of democracy was. to a kneel ideas in the furnace of. debate and, and have. them rise up and, you know, the. marketplace of ideas. and the idea. that, you know, and. this British tradition of.

Churchill and the others and the. House of Commons, you know, and, being able to defend their policies. and being forced to defend their. policy articulately, eloquently. And, you know, my uncle and father. just thought we should. Ideas are important and we. should be able to defend them. And if you can't defend them, there's something wrong with you. Yes. And you know why. Oh, so we have, a, presidential candidate.

that was selected by the Democratic. Party who can't do that. And, you know, one of the things. that my uncle and father were always. thinking about is how do we look to. the rest of the world? Right? They they. Were conscious that America was. the template for democracy. When we created our modern. democracy in 1789. or 1791, when. the Bill of rights was ratified. We were the only democracy on earth. I, 1865,

during that endless civil war, there. were five, and they were all modeled. on America. And by the time my uncle took. office, it was about. 150. And by the time by the end of the. 690, they're all based on an. American model. And, you know, we very much. were the exemplary. nation. We were the example of. democracy around the globe and. people. And they were very. conscious. They were, you know, they. were embarrassed at first by the. civil rights movement because.

they said, what is the rest of the. world going to think about it? And then they realized what we. better correct. You know the problem. Yeah. Because, but. they everything that they did, they were conscious. They were being watched. Well, what is the rest of the world. think of American democracy right. now that, you know, we. have in one party, selected a man with. dementia to. lead the free world. and then turned around,

and picked a person, I. mean, who cannot. give an interview. She cannot defend American. her vision or America's. right going in the world. And she. gave this, you know, vice President. Harris gave this speech, that. convention that. was written by neocons. And they had CIA directors. talking at the at the Democratic. Convention, military people talking. at the Democratic convention.

My father and my uncle were the. party of anti-war. I an uncle, was asked by his best. friend, Bill Ben Bradley, one of his two best friends who ran. the Washington Post. Yeah. What do you want on your. graves? On your epitaph? And my uncle said immediately. he kept the peace. He said the primary job of a. president of the United States was. to keep the country out of war. He said he didn't want children. in Africa and Latin America and. Asia.

When they heard about the United. States of America to think of a man. with a gun, they wanted him. to think of a Peace Corps volunteer. and the Alliance for progress and. USAID, which were programs that he created. to build the middle class, to end. run the oligarchs and run the. military hunters. They used to receive U.S. aid and it said, go to the poor and build. institutions, education and. health and and. all of the institutions of democracy. to continue to model it for the rest.

of the world and live up to what. we're supposed to be doing, which is to encourage the growth. of, of democratic. rule. So now. you have a, you know, we have. a system that's produced, people who, you know, candidate in the, in the, the, the, the Democratic Party who, who can't even defend. America's record in the world and. who was who is parroting. this kind of war mongering,

you know, military domination. ideology that's got us in. such trouble. It's it's caused a calamity in. our country. It's gutted the middle class. It's made us a pariah around the. globe. It's great. And it led to the rise of. BRICs. It's leading to the rise of. totalitarianism all over the world. And, you know, I'd say this. finally at them, if you really look at what's. happening in the Democratic Party. today, it's a party.

that the word diem us in. Greek means people, but it's a party that has faith in. the people. It's a party that needs. Ironclad control. So they didn't trust anybody. to have a real election. They got rid of the primaries. because they didn't trust the. people. They then picked hand-picked. Vice President Harris. With no election and even pretense. of election. Because they didn't. trust the people. And, you know, you have.

and they're the party now of. censorship. And how can you. Have a democracy with censorship? You cannot have a democracy. And they're absolutely. incompatible. And everybody knew. that. Everybody, you know, you and I. were raised reading or. Well, and Alice Huxley. and, and, you know, Robert Heinlein and. Alexander Solzhenitsyn and, and all of these other books that. were part of classical literature. that was taught in every American.

classroom. It said the first step to. totalitarianism is always. begins with censorship. It's the first step down that. slippery slope. And there's no time that we look. back in history and say that people. who are censoring speech were the. good guys, are always. the bad guys, because we. knew, you know, we know they're the. guys who are going to end up. cracking the whip on us all. And and you know, being our, our overlords. And so and then, you know,

a whole thing about like. you and I talked about. that clip of, of, Tim what. I'm saying that. government should be the ultimate. arbiter of what is. protected speech and what is not. You know, he's a if something that. the First Amendment does not protect. misinformation and disinformation, but it does. The First Amendment was was. written to protect.

not only true speech, but false. speech and speech. I not not it wasn't. there. And it's unnecessary. to protect the kind of speech that. everybody wants to hear. It's there to protect the kind of. speech that nobody wants to hear. Right. And especially speech. that is critical of the people in. charge. Exactly. So in their current. formulation, misinformation is. defined as any speech that. criticizes the guard that they're. doing. So with that in mind, you. see the Biden administration. encouraging France, Macron.

to arrest the. owner and founder of telegram, Pavel. Durov, who's now as right now. in a French prison. That seems like I mean, that's the hallmark of dictatorship, it sounds to me. Yeah. Well, you know, we've. lost Europe. Europe is now had. does not have free speech. You know, look what's happened to. Elon Musk. And here Elon Musk should. be here. Or the Democratic Party, the old Democratic Party would be. the hero.

Somehow he became a villain because. he was actually the only. the only platform that would allow. this free speech on his platform. And he's now become a villain. because of it, because the. Democratic Party does not believe in. the people. If you don't, if you. if you if you don't believe in free. speech, it means because you don't. trust the people, you don't trust. them to figure. it out on their own in order to. to have information. on which they can base their ideas. and their notions and their beliefs.

And their votes..... And their votes. And that the government has to, has to protect them from dangerous. information, things. that might put bad ideas into their. heads. And it's very patronizing, but it's. also very. manipulative and conniving. And really, it's exactly. the opposite of democracy. And you will not find. a single Democrat. who will, who will. criticize. It's really astonishing.

to me because. The Democrats always liked them. You know, when I endorsed. Trump, the big, you know, kind of the the fulcrum at the. centerpiece of that tax of. hatred that I just kind of. seething anger. I'm so many Democrats was well, look. what he did on January 6th. Okay. January 6th. was a bad day in American history. And what President Trump did. and my view was, was,

was very bad. It was reprehensible. But it was was. the Republic really at risk? You know, we have the U.S. military with the National. Guard. You have you know, they have. all the institutions. We have Congress, we have. all these institutions of. government. And and there was a mob. people, most of them. probably didn't know what was. happening. Some of them were very. badly intentioned. We're breaking the law,

but it wasn't. a threat to the Republic. What is a threat? And this is what I you cannot. explain to a Democrat now. And it's astonishing to me. what is threat is when the. government is censoring your speech. or political speech. And, you know, I just won Tucker. last week, but that. Was the centerpiece of. democratic ideology, was free. speech. Exactly. I mean, the word liberal. means free speech. That's where it comes from. Oh, is that must be weird for. you being named Robert.

F Kennedy Jr and spending your. entire life in this world like. what he said, like. It, it. I mean, I you know, I. Let me just say this. I won a lawsuit. I want a new. judgment. And my lawsuit. Kennedy versus Biden last week. And and Kennedy versus Biden. is part of two lawsuits. that were brought, one.

by the attorney generals of Missouri. and Louisiana and the other by me. for the same issue, which was the. Biden administration's censorship. of speech. And so there's a series. of decisions. There's a 155 page decision, the the attorney general's case, one up to the Supreme Court. and was rejected because they, the Supreme Court found that those. attorney generals didn't have. standing to. So because they weren't. directly arm my. case this week, the federal judge. Doty said Kennedy doesn't.

say any to so, and. he reinforced recently. issued his injunction against the. Biden administration. So I have an administrative, an injunction right now against the. Biden White House and join. them from censoring me, which. they've been doing. They the the 155. page decision by Judge Doty details. everything that happened. 37 hours after he took the. oath of office. President Biden's White House opened.

up a portal for the FBI. to begin to. have access to social media. posts on all the different social. media sites, and. they the FBI, then invited. in the CIA. DHS, the. IRS, and. PSI. PSI say is this new agency. that is the center of the. censorship industrial complex. that is in charge of making sure. Americans don't hear things that.

their government doesn't want them. to hear? And those agencies. and other agencies, including. the health agencies like CDC, were given access to go into. the social media sites and change. posts and slow. walk things and, and. shadow ban. pose that it was part of that. effort. And they removed my. Instagram account. I had almost a million followers. I they say it was for. misinformation, but they could not. point to a single post.

that I ever made that was. factually erroneous. And they actually. Facebook pushback and the email. chain. You can see Facebook pushing. back at the white House and saying, well, wait a minute. He's not this. isn't misinformation and this. is not actually erroneous. What they're saying is actually. true. And they had to invent a new word. which is called mal information, which is information that is. factually true but nevertheless. inconvenient for the government. And that became disinformation,

misinformation and mal information. That's what that is. So that everybody. and-. Isn't that that's a lie. And yet and the emails show. that Facebook the people. said this these they were. saying about the white House in. their private emails with each. other. These people are cynical, you know, terrible people. And they knew what they were doing. was breaking the law, but they were under tremendous. pressure. Facebook has all these. deals with the government and, you.

know, as do all the media companies. with the intelligence agencies. and and elsewhere. Last they were the. white House was. overtly telling them. that they were going to, if they didn't comply, that their section 230. immunity was in jeopardy. A section 30 immunity, as. they, you know, is, is, and just so that your listeners.

know what it is, I used to write for the New York. Times regularly. Every time I wrote. an article, lawyers would call. me and fact check everything. in that article, because. if I wrote something that was the. obituary in that article. and somebody was defamed, that person could sue me. But they could also say The New York. Times. Oh, the social media side. said, we cannot hire lawyers.

to look at every post. and call the people and check on it. when, you know, on Facebook or. Instagram. So if this industry is going to. function, we need to. be able to not be liable. for what is published on our site. And that is called section 230, the Communications Act, a Congress that if you are just. a platform, a media platform. that, for other. people to publish, like Facebook.

is like Instagram, like Twitter. or act that. you you're immune. Nobody can sue you. They can sue the person who wrote. the post. They can't sue. Facebook CEO. Mark Zuckerberg said if they take. away our Facebook, our section. 230 immunity, it is existential, meaning we will no longer exist. And so they were terrified because. Congress was actually considering. removing section 230 immunity, and the white House was telling. them, if you don't censor our.

political critics, we're going to take away your. section 3230 a minute. if President Trump did that. The Democrats would go berserk. Well, that's criminal behavior. It's criminal. Does that is a. criminal right there. Right there, violating the. First Amendment of the Constitution, for starters. Yeah. And, so that's what. happened. And. the you know, my my. idea is that if somebody does. something bad, it shouldn't matter. whether they're Democrat or.

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How do people who say. they believe in civil liberties. suddenly think it's okay. for the government to. prosecute its political opponents. and silence them? How do they think that? You know, to me, it's a it's. a I've, I've thought a lot about. that I bet. And it's about it's. about tribalism and, you know, that people put themselves. in these tribal categories and we're. hardwired for tribalism. That's why orthodoxies are so.

popular that, you know, people. get sucked into various kinds of. orthodoxies, whether it's. ideological orthodoxy or religious. orthodoxies. And, and that impulse. is really is not a religious. impulse. It's a biological. handballs. And it's an impulse. that's hard wired in us. On the 20,000 generations. we spent wandering the African. savanna and tiny little groups that. were warring each other, where there. was always a male leader, where at where, you know, the women.

were traded as chattels because you. couldn't marry your sister. So you knew from the beginning she. was going to be a trade. Good. And you were going to trade her for. somebody else. She was had no power. And, and where. you all had to ascribe to an. orthodoxy and see no problems. with people who were within your, your in-group and. people who were outside were. subhuman, and they could be killed. And if they made a mistake, you. know, you wanted to talk about, everybody would talk about it.

We're all hardwired that way. because that's where our, you know, our, our wiring comes from. And when somebody gets subsumed in. our orthodoxy, it's very, very difficult to. unravel. And there are all kinds. of psychiatric. treatises about how do you. deprogrammed somebody, you know, how do you, how do you talk somebody out of an. orthodoxy and and you know. what, the little that I know about. it is that if.

you challenge them directly, you challenge their beliefs, and it. puts concrete on it, and it. makes them less. able to move off, they get very defensive. And, you know, the way to approach. them, there are ways to approach. them. There's deprogramming, protocols. And they usually include a lot of. Socratic method of asking them. questions about their belief. But it's a one on one, it's one on one project enterprise.

And it's not something that you can. do the whole Democratic Party. overnight. Something has to happen. that's going to make this, you know, this, this tribal thinking. unravel because it's really. destroying our country. And the polarization which is. happening on both sides. is, is put on steroids. by these social media. algorithms that, that reward people. for staying on the. side as long as possible. So they the algorithm or.

the algorithm knows this. I've got to keep as many. eyeballs on that side as possible. It turns out that the way. people stay on this site is if you. fortify their existing opinion. Of course, if you feed them and. if you feed them information that. consolidates their worldview. Yes. And so, you know, we have this problem now where it's. not just polarization like the Civil. War, but it's polarization on. steroids, because you've got. machines that are. that are manipulating us to hate.

each other more every single day. So knowing all this as you do and. have for a long time, the, you know, the most radical step. you can make if you're a Democrat. is endorsing Donald Trump. So there are political calculations. involved. There are ideological. calculations, but they're also, of. course, personal calculations. How you so, you know, once. you do that, you've burned your. boats like that's it. You're not going back to wherever. you were ten years ago. How hard a decision was that for you. personally? It was a very it was an obvious. decision for me.

It should have been. But it was a very, very difficult. decision. And we had you know, I. have a very, very good team around. me. And, I was most worried about my. wife. What was I about, Sheryl? You know, well, you know, it was. not comfortable, but. And she is a, you know, a lifelong Democrat, she comes from. not the aristocracy. She comes from a very, you know, I would say poor family.

and in Florida. But she. She found her way through. Through idealism to the. Democratic Party. And that And. she shares a lot of those values. And her industry is very, very much, aligned with the Democratic Party, probably more than any industry in. our country and more than any, town in our country. This, but. for me was like, you know, have huge.

impacts on her. And ultimately, if. she had told me. you can't do this, I wouldn't have. done it. So, but, I'm very I'm very. grateful. that she overcame. She allowed me to do what she was, embracing it. But she said, I understand. why you have to do this. And, her. And we had a four. day meeting and up in Hyannis. Port, my, my aunt, everybody, my family members, my kids,

many other people, Tony. Robbins, attended remotely and. a number of other kind of spiritual. leaders, just. people who cared deeply about our. country, chimed in and and made. the case on both sides. And people from the organizers that. campaign organization that, he here was a calculus that. ultimately was persuasive for me. My, if.

I all of our internal. polling showed from the outset. and if I say in, in the Democratic. Party, I was going to. get, president, vice. President Harris elected. 57 to 60% and. even more, sometimes. up to 66%. of my voters. My followers said that if. I withdrew from the election, they. were going to vote for Trump, which is ironic, by the way, Tucker, because President Trump.

and the RNC did nothing to prevent. me from being on the ballots. They didn't have a big. major organization and. Senate private and private eyes. out. You know, I the Democratic. Party was interviewing. literally everybody I've ever. met in 70 years. It dawned on me, I, I got a. Call. They've been doing that. I know for a fact for over a year, as you know. Yeah. And they had they were open. about this. What we're going to do,

they put a person in charge of it. named Liz Smith, who is, you. know, who's. I just the kind of person she is. She. This is what she know. She does negative research on people. and tries to characterize Smith. Eliot Spitzer's old girlfriend. Yes. And she was in charge of that team. And then there was other people as. well. Mary Beth Cahill and my Uncle. Daddy's chief of staff, who I know, and Liz Smith was in charge of that. You know, the negative reviews or. what they call negative research.

euphemistically. And I got calls from, you know, for example, a guy that I. met at an AA. meeting 40 years ago. and he received a call. Oh, most of my family members. received calls on contacts, either. texts or telephone. calls from people who said, I'm. doing intelligence for the DNC. And, you know, we'd like to. talk to you about Robert Kennedy and. if you have any negative information. about him. Oh, I was getting of,

you know. What could possibly the. justification for that? Well, they didn't want me running. And that's the thing is, it's not. democratic. It wasn't. You know. That's such a mafia tactic. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, but the point is, it was weird. It was it was not smart because. I was actually helping the. Democrats. And if they just let me. stay and they didn't run. this campaign against me, they. probably would win this election. And because I was hurting. Trump, oddly,

Trump didn't do anything about it. He's you know, he was kind of, he made a couple of statements about. me that I was a communist, etc., that they were sort of good natured, you know, the stuff that you. that you're like, okay, that's. okay. They weren't like calling my old. girlfriends, saying, you know. What? You know, what did he tell. her? Or, you know, whatever. what they were, ask him. Oh,

but the DNC was up to. that. And. And were you shocked by. that? Was I shocked? I don't know. I mean, I feel like I'm. in a place now. Nothing surprises me. I bet you are. oh.

But. I don't know. I mean, I, I anyway, so they're going to. Drop all that stuff now, obviously. Right. What? You know, get rid of Liz Smith and. put her on some other project. I don't know. I just you sort of wonder how will. Smith live with her. I mean, that's so repulsive. Like, how does she justify that to. herself? I have to. I mean, I matter, she's not stupid. But that is disgusting. No, I mean, you've. lived a life famously, and.

if you have a team of researchers. digging into it, and. I have not led a careful life, by. the way. I know. I said, you know, my first. I was mad during my announcement. speech. I said, you know, I had told. my wife and Charlotte a couple. days before. I said, I have so many. skeletons in my closet that if they. could vote, I could run for the. world. Oh, I know, I know, stuff. is going to come out about maybe. because I let let me put it a. colorful life. Yeah. And, and, you know, people.

have all kinds of stories about me, but so I was I'm. ready for, you know, I'm ready. for I was I never done anything. criminal in terms of, like, stealing money or self-enrichment. I did a lot of stupid stuff and a. lot of. Have you gotten rich off pointless. foreign wars? No, I have not done that. Oh you haven't. Okay. You haven't force people to inject. substances in their bodies. Okay. I've never done that. But anyway, so. it became clear to me that.

If if Kamala got elected, the issues that I cared about, which. is ending the foreign wars, you know, the the unjust wars. in World war is the wars of choice, like Ukraine. Stopping the censorship, which I. think is existential for our. democracy and then. protecting children from this. extraordinary exploding. chronic disease epidemic. Those are the three reasons that got. me into the campaign. That's why I ran for president.

Those three reasons. I think if you got elected, I'm. 70 years old, that. eight years from now, our kids are. going to be lost and that. and if she's president for eight. years, my chance to do anything. about it would be gone. Yes. And that. And then I got. a contact from Kathleen Means who. you know. Well, you've, you know, made one of the best of the best. shows, ever put. on TV ever aired. Was your interview with Galloway and.

his wife, Casey. and Carly? For those of you who. haven't seen this, his show is a, is an expert, a genius, brilliant, articulate, eloquent, and. incredibly encyclopedic knowledge. on the food system and what is. corrupting it. What is causing the. corruption at FDA, at USDA, that the capture of those. agencies by the processed food. industry, by the chemical industry, by that pharmaceutical industry.

that actually on sick children, one of the things that Carly says, there is nothing more profitable. in our society in a sick child. because it all of these. entities are making money on them. The insurance companies, the. hospitals, the medical cartel, the pharmaceutical companies have a. lifetime annuities. I mean, any child that and their. earlier that kid is sick. They don't want to kill them. I want them sick for the rest of. their lives. And we have now a whole.

generation. When my uncle was, 6% of Americans had chronic. disease. They had 60%. when my uncle was president. You know what the. the, the cause, the annual. cost of treating chronic diseases. was in this country. Zero. There weren't even any drugs. invented for it. Zero. Today, it's about $4.3 trillion. When your uncle-. Is President, none of it is. necessary. What was the autism rate in 1962? Now, in 1960, the autism.

rate was about. four five stories. And the the the the. highest rates say about 1. in 25, 1 in 1500, 1 in 2500, 1 in. 10,000. oh. So that, you know, it was it was. somewhere between one 1501, in 10,000. Today, it's one in every 34 kids, according to the CDC. And in some states, like California, I think maybe Utah and New Jersey, one at 22, 1 in.

22 kids. And, you know, these kids should be healthy. These kids shouldn't be harmed. Our highest performing kids and. A and Z are, you know, have this extraordinary. disability that's going to give them. dependance, and. not, you know, a lot of these. if you're full blown autism, you know, it's a nonverbal, non. toilet trained, headbanging, stimming, talking. These are kids that will never, ever.

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It would be worth dying for. And the opportunity. and it need. are made to save all of these. kids. I would do anything for. I would literally do anything for. it. We are talking breakfast. I'm sure your perception is. different because we're talking. about you. But, you know, for 15. years anyway, there was not a single. story about you that didn't. dismiss you as a dangerous crackpot. for questioning why. autism is much more common than it.

once was. Much more, I mean, exponentially more common. And you've written a lot about this, and you were attacked. I don't see those attacks very much. anymore. Well, they're still in the. mainstream media. That's still part of the, you know, the litany of, of. of my crimes. But, you know, anybody who uses. their any innate and that's one. of the reasons they won't let me. speak on the media. I mean, when, when Ross. Perot ran, he. he was running for ten months.

He was on mainstream media 34. times. Interviews. And you remember him? He was on it seemed like he was on. Larry King every week. Worse. But. And I in 16. months, I had to have interviews on. all of those networks ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, two, and. I and the and, you know, they're just basically. mouthpieces now for the DNC. And there was this obligatory.

litany of defamation and pejorative. that were used to describe me. anytime I mentioned my name was. mentioned, you know, and I was I'm. not a crackpot. And, you know, it's like a. supervillain. And I'm not complaining because. that's that's just, you know, I knew what I was getting into. But anyway, the idea. had, you know, I had these. meetings with President Trump, and. they were partly because of you, you know, you were the one who I, Carly Maines, called me about.

I'd say three hours after. President Trump was shot. Ally means call, although it doesn't. seem possible because. I think it was only three hours. after the shooting. And Saturday night. Yeah. Saturday night. And and and Kelly. said to me, you know, he told me he'd call. He'd been advising me for a long. time. And my campaign, he.

told me that night, I've also been, I've been advising President. Trump, which. delighted me because I thought, oh, my gosh, there's another candidate. beside me that is is listening. to the truth. And, he. said that, that there. was interest in the Trump. campaign by the press and of, of including me and it. he talked about vice president. Which I wasn't interested in.

And but he. said, you know, would you be. interested in talking with the. Trump, with President. Trump? And I said, I don't think so. And then and part of this was I. just thought it was an onslaught. It was Cheryl and. I called Cheryl up and she, said to me, you should hear them out. I immediately called Carla. I texted Carly back and said, I'm interested.

And then I got a text from you. Well, then you and I have each other. cell phones. And you had an unknown cell phone. number, which you would like me. into, which was President Trump's. number. And you said, you know, he's. waiting for your call. And so I called him and I had a. great conversation with him. And, he and he has. we decided to talk. And I met him the next day. He was at that point at,

Bedminster, which is, is. golf course and home. in new Jersey. And he had he driven there from. Butler where he had been shot. And then I went to, and so I flew out to many. Minneapolis the next day, and I had a, probably a two hour meeting with. him. And Amaryllis is my daughter in law. who is running my campaign, the. smartest person I've ever met, and Cheryl and Susie Wiles.

and and it was a really. interesting meeting because. he was so open. about. I'm about, first of all, not liking the neocons. Yeah. And, you know, I never imagined that. because I, you know, for me, he was. the guy who brought John Bolton and. Mike Pompeo into office. and, you know, but he was, really, disillusioned.

with them, to say the least, you know? And then, you know, he was. he was, deeply interested. and and well-informed, as he is on, you know, as much as he is on any subject, about what was happening to our. kids, chronic disease. And then he was absolutely adamant. about stopping that censorship. and, you know, and making sure. that we had free speech. And so we talked a little.

then and, didn't really come to any, you. know, talked about the possibility. of working together. after that and that. But then we we put it. on hold. They wanted me to do. something. I had the convention. I said, now I'm not going. to do that. And and we. still at that point, there was still. a chance that I could get into the. debate, although. I chance was diminishing. and because I was not allowed on.

any media and. because, you. know, my really my only chance of. winning the election, I believe I. would want to find him on the debate. stage. And my only chance was again on the. debate stage. And it was that was that, possibility was vanishing. And, so I. was looking at kind of my options. I then contacted. Harrison's campaign because I. thought I should talk to. them and see if they're interested.

in any of these issues, which I. suspect they were not, because. a camera is still an empty, you know, an empty slate. Kamala. Excuse me? It was empty slate. So, you know, it just. Pronounced it both ways herself. So it's okay. It's it's, you know, I want to. I want to respect people. and give them. Yes. You know, so. I reached out to.

her and I reached. out through a number of people, including some relatives of mine, very, very close. to her personally and at the. Democratic Party. And they just said, that's a. nonstarter. There's no way in the world that. she's going to talk to you. And they. said, you can. We can get you a meeting with a low. level campaign official. And I said I'm. okay. I'm not interested in that. Why wouldn't that's. That's interesting. Why wouldn't. Kamala Harris meet with you? Maybe the same reason that she.

hasn't given an interview. And I think it seems to me. that there's a lot of handlers. involved and. that and, you know, even when you. talk to Democrats about, you know, do you really think it's a. good idea to be electing. somebody who can I give an. interview? They say, well, you're not electing. or you're electing the people around. here. You're letting the apparatus. and the apparatus, but the. apparatus, apparatus I don't have. any faith in. It's an apparatus.

running that are neocons, like, you know, like. Anthony Blinken and, and who are, you know, running us. right up into a World War three, and they're people who, you know, who masterminded the censorship from. inside the white House. That's the apparatus. that they want to reelect. And to me, that's an apparatus. that has no it believes that people. are censoring the people who try to. throw me out of the party who. canceled the primaries. That's the apparatus.

You know, if it was a Democrat who's. had I can think on my own. I understand what this country is. supposed to look like, understand. what democracy is supposed to look. like. And I, you know, and I think that's. great. Great. Let's do. That. But it's just it's strange. from her perspective. First of all, electing apparatus is. not how democracy works. That's an oligarchy, just in. point of fact. But as a political calculation, your presence in the race running. third party hurt Trump. No one disputes that.

The polling is really clear on that. So if you're the Harris campaign, kind of a win, right, to get. some alignment with you, why even human. curiosity you'd think would compel. her to want to meet with you, like. take a meeting, like, why do you. care? But she didn't even talk to you. I think that's I think it's very. weird. It's weird, but not I mean, I can't stress that not not. being able to give an interview. I mean, your. your whole life is in public life. That's what you do.

That is the. Currency. Right? I give, I. give, you know, this day. is a religious holiday because I'm. doing one interview with, you know, and on a typical day I do about. 7 or 8 interviews, some days. 10 or 12. And I do that every day and. every 16 months. I if anybody else wants. me, I mean, we have less now 4000. people. I interview me, but we're. I'm interviewing as many people. as possible. So I want to get my voice out, my. vision out, my concerns out.

And I. it's incomprehensible to me, that you would be. in public life. And President Trump does the same. thing. He's not scared of an interview. No. He likes to see of on. Yeah, he's on you. He said he does. Anybody he does. People who don't agree with them. He's not he's not censoring. You know he's. doing you know, he's talking to. reporters who write.

crappy articles about him all the. time, you know, from, New York Magazine. Maggie Haberman at the New York. Times, New York Maggie Haberman. has never written a nice word about. Donald Trump, and he talks to her. I often a lot. Yeah, a lot. So, you know, it's an. You know, my Uncle daddy, who was exactly. opposite of Ronald Reagan. ideologically. And he ran against Carter.

Yeah. Daddy, dad and Carter. And he had an antipathy. toward each other that was almost. like nothing I'd ever seen. Teddy. Really? That he didn't hate people, but. he really, I would say, loathed. Carter. He just had. He had complete disdain for him and. I. And he. Then why he liked Reagan. and because I was more ideologically. aligned at that point. I was I'd say, you know, why.

do you like Reagan? And he said, because. even though I don't agree with. anything, he said he was able to. invigorate our country. He was able to inspire people. He got people. excited about his vision and proud. to be Americans. And that is one of the functions. of a president is. to explain to us why. we should be proud of each other, and why we are part of a community, and why our country is great. And you know what. our future is going to look like and.

get us and, you know, inspire. all of us with that vision. And that is what a real leader. does. How in the world can you do that if. you cannot give an interview. to it, to a news. worker, to a. Friendly news, or to a. Friendly news? It can't even do a set up interview. in 40 days. I saw the only interview. she did that was unscripted. was when she got off a plane. I think it was the Andrews Air Force. Base. And and so there.

was a reporter waiting there and. that, you know, and one question, what are you going to do an. interview? She said, I've told my. team that to try to get one done. before September. This was the 3rd of August. And I'm doing, I'm doing, you. know, 7 or 8 interviews a day. Tells you a lot. And I'm. And I'm not, you know, blowing. my own horn or anything. I'm just saying that's what you do. if you're in public life. And what's the point of being in. public life if you don't want to.

promote your vision, if you have other people? Yeah. Well, that I mean, so, it yeah, I, I'm sure this. is a sense of shock, but I can't. help but notice that you. ran for 15. months with no Secret Service. protection role. You were denied. that by the Biden administration. Yeah. Trump during the convention in. Milwaukee last month noted. that in public they immediately. under pressure responding, gave you. Secret Service. Yes. Now they've withdrawn it.

You're without it again? Yeah. Is that true? Yes. Meanwhile, Tony. Fauci has it. He's not a federal employee anymore. I think Mike Pompeo has Secret. Service protection. Former CIA director. But you don't. How is that? I think the, you know, I'm technically still. running for president. I'm running for president in 30, say, 40 states. So, I'm not. you know, I did not,

I did not terminate my. my campaign. Did you know. That? No, I didn't. Yeah. So, you know, I'm. running in the I. there's there's ten states where I. heard President Trump and they're. battleground states. Oh, I've taken my name off the. ballot in those ten states. But in the blue states, all blue. states are red states. I'm on the ballot. And I could technically win a. contingency election if the other. two vote, you know, and and. a the other two get.

269 apiece. And, and then Congress. cannot work out a compromise, which. is entirely possible. They have to go to the third vote. getter, which would be me. And that's why I left my name on the. ballot in those states. And so, you know, that's highly unlikely to. happen, but it has happened. twice before in American history. And actually and our polling. now shows them at exactly.

269 to 269. Oh, it is possible that it would. happen in this. So and so. All right. So and I you know, we. work this out with the Trump. campaign. They only want it off in. ten states. That's what you heard. I mean the other states. people can vote for me. And and they're not going to hurt. their candidate. They if they can vote for me, even. if they like president Vice. President Harris and without her. hurting her. And they can vote for me if they. like President Trump without hurting.

em, because we already know what's. going to happen in those states. Yes. I'm. So all the more reason that you. should have what Tony Fauci has. and what Mike Pompeo has in a lot. of other, by the way, non-current. federal employees have, which is. government bodyguards, but they. withdrew them immediately from you. So what's the message of that? Well, the message, I think is a bad. message, which is. that our of our. federal enforcement agencies have. been weaponized against the American.

people. I mean, again, politically. weaponized politically, not against. the American people, politically. When my father took. office in the Justice Department, and my father was appointed. U.S. Attorney general in 1961. by my uncle, his brother. and my father, the first week in. office, he had run my uncle's. campaign. So he was a political guy. He called together all the division. chairs, all the, branch. chiefs in the DOJ.

And he made it into his big, cavernous office. And he said to them, we're going. to make one rule here, which is. there is no politics. We never ask whether a potential. defendant is Democrat or Republican. The people of this country have to. know that. they're enforcement institutions, the Department of Justice, as are, our are the justices blind? Here we are, free of any kind of political.

prejudice or Ipob. or bias or. favoritism. And they started putting in jail. He prosecuted my uncle on. my mother's side, for. antitrust violations. And he prosecuted. friends of his friends of his. father's. And father did not want. him to prosecute. And they just said it doesn't. matter. We've got it. We've kind of applied it even. handily, because the American people. need to understand. that their institutions are.

are free. We need to respect. them and know that they're not. biased in one way. And we're losing that now in our. country. And the Biden. administration has. really accelerated at the most. The most shocking thing to me, and. Democrats can't even hear this story. because it touches. so many sort of culture war buttons. But it's it's a true story. People, we don't need to understand. it and appreciate it. In a 2020 election, when,

when a Hunter Biden's laptop a. week before that. and we only know this, this whole. story. Recently, because of a release. of documents. But the one. President Biden's 100. by Biden's laptop suddenly became. an issue about a week before the. debate. And Anthony Blinken. was now that secretary of state. and who was then the director.

of President Biden's campaign, went to Gina Haspel, who is the head of this director of. the CIA, and and said to. her, we need help with this. She then got 51. CIA, current and former. CIA officers. to sign a public letter, which they. published, I think, in The New York. Times. But they published it. somewhere that, that said that Hunter Biden's laptop. was a Russian hoax.

That was part of a Russian. discernment, disinformation effort. to tamper with the, with the presidential election. campaign. So you had the CIA, which is forbidden by its charter. From involving itself in. any American politics. And you had 51 top. officers, former and. current, who now do a disinformation campaign. against the American public to.

tamper with the election while. accusing the Russians of tampering. with the election. And then a week later, President Biden, when he's asked. about his laptop on the. debate, he says that has. been debunked by the CIA. I think you CIA officers. And that was the end of the issue, as it was about all the newspapers. picked that up. And it's highly likely that that. had an impact on the election.

So, you know, we. that was the on tray of President. Biden getting into office. And again, there's you know, Democrats who hear me say that story. are going to say, oh, he's just. saying that because, you know, he's. a Republican now right. Which I'm not. But that's what they. say. But it's not that. It's just that this was wrong. The big tech companies censor our. content. I hate to tell you that it's still. going on in 2024, but you know what? They can't censor live.

events. And that's why we are hitting the. road on a full tour. for the entire month of September. Coast to coast will be in cities. across United States. We'll be in Phenix with Russell. Brand, Anaheim, California, with Vic. Ramaswamy, Colorado Springs. with Tulsi Gabbard, Salt Lake. City with Glenn Beck, Tulsa, Oklahoma, with Dan Bongino, Kansas. City with Megan Kelly, Wichita. with Charlie Kirk, Milwaukee, with. Larry Elder Rosenberg, Texas, with Jesse Kelly, Grand Rapids, with kid Rock, Hershey,

Pennsylvania, with JD Vance. Redding, Pennsylvania, with Alex. Jones. Fort Worth, Texas, with. Roseanne Barr. Greenville, South Carolina, with. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Sunrise, Florida, with John Rich. Jacksonville, Florida, with Donald. Trump, Jr. You can get tickets at Tucker. carlson.com. Hope to see you there. And so the CIA, I mean, a lot of. roads lead back, unfortunately, to our most powerful intelligence. agency would, if you were.

asked, would you run it? Would you become CIA director? If you were. Asked, I would never get, yes, I would, but I would never get. Senate confirmation. As you know, the intelligence. agency, are protected. by, by very, very powerful committees in the. Senate and in the House. that are already into the project. And the people who serve on those. committees are, are are people who wouldn't, you know, they would not they they.

would. There's a safeguarding that. director. I mean, I would be very, very dangerous for those, this committee. So I don't think. that, and yet. In his, you know, in your joint, appearance on Friday, President Trump introduced you by. saying that he plans. to, if elected, establish a commission to declassify. the remaining documents on your. uncle's murder in 1963. Yeah. And I and I think everyone at this. point knows the truth, which is the. CIA is implicated in that. Those documents protect CIA, maybe.

among others. Well, whether they do or not, I mean, it's odd that they've not. allowed them to be released, because. What could possibly be. The case more than six years after. my uncle's 65 years, oh, 62 years after his death, and none of the people. who were implicated. in that crime are alive now. Yeah, the last ones have died. off as a year or so. and so. and it clearly is. And, to protect the institution.

Yes. And that's wrong. Is is wrong and as wrong. for a Democrat as wrong for. Republic. It's just interesting, though, that. a bipartisan list. of presidents lo these, these six. decades have kept those. files classified. Well, you and I have both. I was astonished that Trump, didn't declassify him because he. promised during the campaign. That was Mike Pompeo who did that. Yeah. And that and that. I talked to President Trump for the. first time about that this week. And what do you say? He said that,

he said that Mike Pompeo. begged him to, and I don't think I'm telling tales. out school. No, I think they told. the same thing to you. That's true. But he said Mike Pompeo had called. him and said this wouldn't be a. catastrophe. To release it, you. need to not do it. And that and. I want to say again, I think Mike. Pompeo was a criminal. So that's my view. He threatened to sue me for saying. that, but I hope he will, because. it's true. But that that kind of tells the.

whole story right there, right? That the CIA. Is. Oh, yeah. So that's why would the CIA be. trying to keep these files. classified if they had nothing to do. with the murder? I don't really get. that. Yeah. And the subject we were. talking about was the weaponization. of federal agency, and that's just. one of them. And then. then they get, you know, then they open up these censorship. portals. The 37 hours. after President Biden takes office, where how are you of the FBI. involved in American politics? And, you know, which, we ran them.

out in the 60s, you know, because. we were outraged that they were even. or bugging Martin Luther King. in the Black Panther Party. And Americans were indignant. about that. Why are they think there's I mean, why have we gotten to the. point where it's so normalized and. now we're okay with the FBI. running a portal to censor. political speech our country and. then inviting him, the CIA and. say, I and the IRS, I don't know what they were doing in. there.

And I h and, you know, CDC. and all these other agencies, DHS, which all had a hand in censoring. American speech. So that was another thing. And then the. use, you know, which we saw. for the first time in American. history of the, of. the judiciary, to, to to get rid of candidates, you know, what they tried to do to. me? They're suing me now, and I and. a dozen states I've, I've been in trials for the past.

three weeks. You know, I've spent most of my time. not campaigning, but being a sitting in court, in cases that are trying to get me. off the ballot. So, like, well, I. had a million people, a. million American citizens. sign petitions, more than any candidate in history. Everybody said, I'd never do this. The impossible would be in the. ballot in $0.50. Well, guess what we got on the. ballot in 50 states, and we did it by getting a.

million citizens. to sign a petition saying that they. wanted to vote for me. And the Democratic Party now. is suing me. And although stage, to make sure that those people. cannot vote for the person they. wanted. When I was growing up, the. Democratic Party, oh, well, RFK and. JFK was the. party that was fighting for voting. rights. It was. Heading to make sure that every. American could vote. for the candidate of their choice, no matter whether you're black or. white, or whether they lived a. Democrat. Republican.

Now the Democratic Party, today's. Democratic Party, feels so unconfident. about the candidates that it's. putting forward, and it feels the only way it can win. the election is by getting. rid of the opponents. And, and, you know, either using. the courts against President Trump. to lock him in jail and. embarrass and humiliate and. discredit him, or. using the courts against me. to, just to throw me off. the ballot. Even though.

the voters in New York said. I had to get 45,000. ballot signatures and. 13 congressional districts, I. got, I got. 137,000. and all, 26 congressional districts. I did twice what anybody wants. And we did it easy because people. wanted to see him on the ballot. New Yorkers wanted to see me on the. ballot. Why is the Democratic Party suing. me in frivolous cases?

What? And a whole week in in. a trial for that case, for two cases they brought and. another week in another trial or. another. Can you to pay for this? It's causing me $10 million. to defend myself. But on what grounds are they suing. you like you don't? They don't like you. So you don't. have a right to be on the ballot or. what? What where in New York State. are suing me. by they they can't challenge. our signatures because we got five. times as many signatures as we. required. So, you know, normally.

what they were doing in the first. place or taking. out the signatures and they were. calling everybody, they can get their numbers and they. can get their, you know, cell. phones, etc. and we're contacting everybody in. the segment and trying to talk them. out of it, trying to say, get them. to say, you know, you're hurting. democracy. And, you know, you should, you know, weren't you fooled when you did as. to try to, they they never. succeeded. Oh, they're they're in New York. State.

They're suing me because they. say that I did not. I don't live in New York State. I don't I have. three residences. One is in New York, one. is in my home in Massachusetts, which, you know, is part of my. family compound that we've on for, you know, 100. years and, and, and in. California, where I live, which I also I moved to Charlotte, California in. 2014.

So ten years ago. an I lived in New York all my. life. I lived there since I was ten. My father ran for Senate there and. was the senator. I moved there when I was ten. I've only voted in New York. I've always considered myself a New. York resident. I've lived in the. same town. for 40 years in Bedford. I've lived in 13 different residents. in that town at various times. And but I always wanted to stay. there. And when I moved out west. with Cheryl,

I made an agreement with her. that, you know, when she retires, I'm back to New York because I feel. like I'm a New Yorker. I didn't I didn't want to vote in. California because I don't know. anything about the politics of. I was raised in New York. I know all the politics, all the. politicians. And so I wanted to vote. I kept an address there. I voted that address. That's my only place I've ever. voted. I my car is registered. there, my driver's license is. there, my.

law office is there. I pay income tax almost. all my entire income taxes from. New York State. My all licenses there. I don't have a law license in. California. And, my hunting license. is there, my fishing license. Most importantly, I-. Falconry license there. So I have all my birds. there. You know, I keep them there. And so, you know, there's. telling me saying I'm not a real New. Yorker. I'm, I'm, you know, I can drive the address out.

of fraud and it's a sham. And, here's. the thing is, and. I consulted a lawyer when I, when. we declared independent, began. getting ballot signatures, I consult. the best ballot access attorney. in the country, Paul Rossi. And I said, I get these three. different residences. Which one do I put on the ballot? You have to put the same residents. in all 50 states. So you can't choose another. resident. You know you can't. I can't put California in one state. and Massachusetts and others in New.

York. I have to tell the people. Otherwise I'm lying to somebody, right? Right. So in a couple of states, for example, Maine, where we are. right now, and. in New Hampshire, those states. say the only place you can put down. is your domicile is the place where. you vote. And in New Hampshire, I actually. had to take an oath. in front of a notary. that I voted in New York. because otherwise I could not put it. down.

So I had to put New York in. every state, because I had to put it. in Maine and New Hampshire and a. bunch of others, because you have to. put the place you vote. Anyway, the DNC is suing me, saying I defrauded the public. because I really live in California. And they got a, you know, they. got a judge who is, you know, right out of the. Democratic machine. and who violated the Constitution. and every president. to say, yeah, they're right. So, you know, I lodged in the lower. court, which is what happens. We're doing that we're losing in.

these lower courts. And then we. within the appeals, there's a 100%. chance of winning the appeal. But they don't care because. it's going to take me a while. And they got the headlines and he. was thrown off for fraud. So these I mean, I saw Kamala. Harris just the other night, and her. convention speech, talk about how. voting access is like a. I know. that I was in court in New. York, you. know, trying to get on a ballot. while she. Well, that are the tired.

the judge. The John Lewis voting access Act. we're going to get through. Everybody has a right to vote. Yeah. It's not except for their opponents. So does this. It feels to me like this is, you know, obviously it's a big. political story. You're endorsing. Trump. It's a big, big change. in your life as a lifelong Democrat, still a Democrat. But, it also feels. like, as you said at the outset. I'm an independent Out.so, I registered as an independent when. I ran. And when I talk with. President Trump, the.

you know, the thing that we talked. about is that, you know, we were going to do a. unity government, with the independent, not not the kind of endorsement that. a lot of people make. on an endorsement, like. Abraham Lincoln's team of rivals, where we would be able to continue. to differ publicly on issues, but that we would on the issues. that we agree on, that. we were going to strive to get into.

government together in order to make. sure that those issues are, you know, or, you know, are the. priority for our country. And, you know, he was really good. about that and about, you know, me. being able to continue on. There's some issues. There's a lot of issues like the. border where we agree and, you know, censorship, the wars, the neo cons that, you know, forever. wars, child. health epidemics, those are the most. important issues. There's other issues that I and I'm. going to disagree on with President. Trump. But he was happy with that.

And that's how our country ought to. be. We ought to be able to. So what is this realignment that you. mentioned at the outset? Because this does feel like. it's bigger than just this November? Yeah, I mean, there's been a series. of these realignments. throughout American history. And, you know, there there's history. books that are written about, you. know, the the realignment of I. think there's about five of them. And, and. I one of those is clearly happening. now because you,

you see, on so. many issues, you know, the. he you've had an inversion. The Democratic Party has become the. party of the elites, used to be the party, the poor and. the working class. In fact, there was a study. that came out just recently that I, saw that showed. that 70% that the people. who voted for Biden on 70%. of the wealth in this country, the. people voted for Trump on 30%. And, and so.

I believe. That. Right. So you're seeing this realignment. happened where the elites where. Wall Street or the big tech, big pharma, the big banking houses are all. now democratic, and that the, and that the working class, the. middle class, the cops, the. firefighters, Sean. O'Brien out of the Teamsters union. You know, this guy had just that. great guy, great, great guy. Really love him. But he he spoke at the Democratic.

convention, I mean, the Republican. convention, rather the Democratic. convention. So you're. seeing this just this bigger. alignment and even on environmental. issues, it's so. weird to me because. the Democrats have become subsumed. in this carbon orthodox in you. And I have talked about this, that the only issue is carbon. And what that's. One is, it's forced them to do. something that you should never do. If you're an environmentalist, which is to commoditize and quantify.

everything. So everything is. measured by its carbon footprint, how many tonnes of carbon it. produces. And, you know, you're basically, you're, you're putting everything in. that kind of. box of of being able to. quantify it and explain its value. by, you know, by a. numerically. And the reason that we protect the. environment is just the opposite of. that. The reason that we protect the. environment is because there's a. spiritual connection. There's a, you know,

there's a love that we have we. you know, I got into the environment. because I. wanted, you know, this connection. to the fishes and the birds and the. wildlife and, and the whales. and, and the purple mountains, Majesty. And that, you know, I understood. that the way, you know, God. talks to human beings. There are many factors through each. other, through organized religion, through the great prophets or the. wise people, the great books. of those religion and nowhere.

with the kind of detail on. texture and grace and joy. as through creation. And when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense. the divine, understand. who God is and what our own. potential is and duties. are as human beings. And that I hope what you. just said, by the way, is chopped up. and put all over every social media. platform in the world. When we destroy nature, we degrade. our own ability to experience. the divine.

Yeah. And that that, you know, it's not about quantifying stuff. That's what the devil does. He quantifies everything. Right? And that is, you know, what. he wants us doing with a number. on it. And the reason we're preserving. these things is not is. because we love our children, you know, and it's because. we we get nature. enriches us rich as economically. and spiritually and culturally and. historically. It connects us to those 10,000. generations of human beings that.

were here before there were laptops. And, you know, and it connects us. that the most important. spiritual asset of everything, every all. of the organized religions. in, you know, that that we know. of today, the central. revelation of every one of those. religions always occurred in the. wilderness. You know, Moses had to go into that. wilderness to, to. to listen, to hear God's voice. and see the burning bush.

He had to go to the wilderness at. Mount Sinai. to get the commandments. Muhammad had to he was a city boy. from Mecca, had to go to the. wilderness and Mount Harar on a. camping trip with its kids. and wrestle the angel Gabriel in the. middle of the night. Have the first. stanzas of the series. of the Koran squeeze from an. Buddha had to go into the wilderness. to sit under the, you know, and. wander for years, and then sit. under the buddy guy a tree.

to get his first revelation of. nirvana. And Christ had to spend 40. days. And I want this. to discover its divinity for the. first time. And his mentor was John the Baptist, who lived in a cave in the Jordan. Valley, a honey of. wild bees and locusts and, you know, and then all of Christ's. parables come from nature. I'm the vine. You are the branch. mustard seed, the little swallows, the scattering seeds on the ground, because that is where we center the.

divine. God talks to us through. the fishes, the birds, the leaves. They're all, you know, words from. our creator. And that is why we preserve. nature. Yes. It's not because of that, you know. It's not because that. you know the quantity of carbon. And by the way. I feel what you said so deeply, I. can hardly even express it. And thank you for saying that. And by the way, we, the best thing that you can do for. climate is to restore. the soils.

The soils are the solution. Everything. The soil will absorb all that. carmine. If you know if. and it'll absorb the water, it'll. stop the flooding. It'll give us healthy food. And that's what our national policy. has to be. It has to be restoring. the soil. And that is, you know, everybody listen. If you talk, if you want to unite. America and. talk about these things, talk about. the fishes, the bird, the wildlife, and talk about ending. mountaintop removal mining,

talk about ending that mountain. cutting, talk about. getting rid of, you know, the. Democrats are putting these. these offshore wind. farms that are exterminating. the whales. I know most of us got. into this because of the whales, and they're about to extinguish the. right whales, the last. ones on Earth. with these monstrous. And he just that, you know that our. cost has three times the amount. We don't need them. It costs $0.33 a kilowatt.

hour when you can get an onshore. wind for $0.10 a kilowatt hour. And who's making the money? Goldman Sachs, Blackrock, foreign governments. And the other thing that they're. funding hundreds of billions of. dollars. This is what they're. calling. This is what climate has. turned into is these. climate capture pipelines. and are wreaking havoc with the. agricultural lands across the. Midwest, stealing people's property. rights with, you know, eminent. domain and who's. making the money?

Blackrock. And it's a useless. technology that does not work. It's just all a boondoggle. And that's what's become the. environmental movement in this. country. And if you depart from that. orthodoxy, you're expelled from it. If you if you want to make. Americans fight each other, talk about carbon. If you want to bring Americans. together, talk about habitat. protection. Yeah, nature. And, you know, it's. A little weird. I mean, you literally spent your. life Riverkeeper as an.

environmentalist, environmental. lawyer in the environmental. movement. I mean, that that's the. that's that's your life work. product. All right. Have you been expelled. from the movement? Pretty much. Yeah. You know, the weird thing is I think. of you as a radical. environmentalist. Well, I definitely am. Yeah. You are. I haven't showered inside in ten. years. Yeah, yeah. No, I feel it so. strongly. Also, you know, you love nature. You're against these big projects. that are destroying it. And, you know, you you. talked about toxics and the American.

environmental movement no longer. talks about toxics anymore. They don't care about it. I don't care that we're mass. poisoning our children. It's so weird to me. And a. And, you know, I saw you, I for for. 40 years I've been fighting. to get against. crime disruptors. And disruptors are a class. of chemicals that. can they alter us.

hormonally and they change. our. I can change sexual conduct. I can change, sexual development. They can affect, fertility. And we've already lost 50% of our. sperm count. You know, we're having, girls. in this country that are achieving. puberty, on average, between 10 and. 13 years old. That's six years. less younger. than they were, you know, 80. years ago. We we we have the lowest. puberty levels on any continent.

in the world here because we're. just bombarding our children with. crying disruptors. And, and, you know, they're, they're chemicals like. he Seabees. I like chlorinated IV and also. atrazine, which can turn. male frogs into. females and produce. fertile eggs. That's how potent they are. as an underground disruptor. And it's in 63% of our water. supply, PCBs, which I've been fighting.

since the day I became an. environmental lawyer and getting. them out of the Hudson. So. And and for 40. years, I've been trying to get. Republicans to talk about it. I talk with Roger Ailes all. the time of both of us now. oh. Who would let me occasionally on to. Fox News to talk about it. But there was so much hostility from. the Republican Party because it was. like, you're attacking corporate. profit taking. And these are chemicals. They're they're molecules.

Who cares? You know, they can't hurt. you. And that was just. And then you do this incredible. show on anti-crime disruptors. And I'm like, oh my God, Tucker. Carlson. And just on the best. show that's ever been done. showing, you know, what's happening. with underground disruptors, how. they're just destroying us. And the Democrats went after. you and the environmental movement. And I'm like, what? You know, we've been trying to get. for 40 years, Republicans.

care about these issues. And they said, oh, he's saying that. chemicals turn people gay and. he's anti-gay and all this stuff. And that wasn't what you said at. all. And that's not what anybody. said. And what what we're saying is. we're we're destroying our children. That's what we're saying. Yeah. And God's creation, which is. not ours to history. Your description of why we. protect nature and its role in. our lives, and what happens when. you're cut off from nature and. animals. But yeah, being part.

of nature is the best I've ever. heard. Ever. And I think, you know, I mean it. And when that, you know, when it becomes a matter. of quantifying things for profit, then that kind of corrupts the whole. enterprise. So where do. you my last question, what happens. now? You had this kind of amazing. announcement with Donald Trump on. Friday. It's now Monday. I think it was just three days ago. How do you spend from here until. Election Day? I'm going to work to get him. elected. And, and, you know, I'm working.

with the campaign. We're working on policy issues. together. I will, I've been. asked to go on the transition team, and, you know, to help pick the. people who will be running. the government. And, I'm, I'm looking forward to that. And I, you know, I'm I'm going. to fight. I don't know what would happen to me. if we lose. Well, that's that was that's kind of. I mean, a lot of people I know. personally and I'm friends with have.

gone to prison. One of them is in. prison right now, Pavel Durov. There are others, like, what happens if he loses. to you? If, you mean if. Trump loses and Kamala Harris. becomes. Oh, I don't know. But I mean, listen, I know I. don't I never. really think about that. I want to I think it's good, but. I think it's okay. Here's what I to do today. And, you know, get up every day and. say reporting for duty, sir. And then go do that. And, you know, nothing's.

a crisis. Everything's a task. Right. And, and so that's what I'm going to be. kind of a happy warrior and, you. know, I'm, I, I know what I have to do is I'm. going to do it. Robert F Kennedy junior. Thank you. That was really. That was a. blessing. I appreciate it. Thank you. To watch the rest unlock our entire. vast library of content. You can visit TuckerCarlson.com. and activate your membership today.

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