Patrick Bet-David on Trump, Iran, and What Chris Cuomo Should Do with the Rest of His Life
but backham and like life is like 30%. luck so it's like a metaphor because. there is a lot of luck out of five out. of five anybody could win yeah exactly. thank you but he played three out of. five of five the better player is going. to win of. course Patrick Bet David May 22nd oh my. gosh so it's he just said it's May 22nd. I don't know when this is going to air. so who who's going to win the.
presidential race and why who's going to. win the presidential race and why. um I think right now if it ended today. right if it ended today and you looked. at the states Wisconsin Biden has you. can go through the others Trump has a. big lead I believe in Arizona and. another state by 11 points 50 to 39 he's. got a three to and 11-point lead on the. six states that matter they're not even. looking at North Carolina right now. they're like no it's going to be his. it's red we don't even want to report it. as a Battleground no not even reporting.
it so if it ends today it's him that's. going to win it however it's not ending. today the amount of uh gamification that. could happen between now and November. 5th it's it's endless gamification. gamification manipulation you call it. there's a lot of things you can do so. for me there's a part of me where on the. left side of my shoulder it's it's a guy. that his future looks bright it's going. to be great we're going to take over. it's going to be awesome America is. going to be the greatest country in the. world and everything's going to be okay. right then there's another guy on this.
side that's super paranoid but what if. but why would they be paranoid it's not. like they're going to like unleash a lab. grown virus virus on the world or like. they would never do that Noble race. riots and burn down your cities like I. don't think they wouldn't go that far. why would they do such a thing they're. unifiers they're not trying to divide. you know that Tucker You' being a little. bit too speculative I get cynical um so. so I think what you're saying is you. know if it plays out as elections are. supposed to play out on the basis of. what the population wants then Trump has. a big Advantage but you are open to the.
possibility that there will be some sort. of manipulation of the country oh. there's no question only the paranoid. survive and there's never been a time. where we need to be paranoid about what. could happen the next few months never. all of a sudden you show up saying you. want to debate June 27th I debated him. two times and I beat him two times you. want it come on tough guy June 27th and. you read the details.
Mike's going to go off the moment time's. up two zero audience why are we doing. zero audience well you know we're just. going back to the way it was with Nixon. and Kennedy and then the next day 50. articles come out that were we becoming. traditional on how this whole thing. about TV debate on TV started with Nixon. and Kennedy with no audience that's the. right way to do it so the audience can. decide for themselves who the better. debater is but listen the last time we. did without an audience was it 1960 19. whatever the timeline was with those two. we've always had an audience the.
audience are oh you guys got to keep it. down but they know what's going to. happen where he's going to have his. moments where he says because you'd be. in jail and they're worried about those. things however here's what's going to. happen I think as much as they try to. protect him as much as they try to. protect them to kind of see what's going. to happen with that what percentage of. people do you think that consume the. debate are the type that consume. highlight reels like a game I don't. watch full games but I'll watch a. highlight reel right I'll watch sports.
center I'll watch some of the clips on. Twitter to see oh look at this oh wow. good for these guys they. won what percentage you think of Voters. are going to watch the entire thing on. TV on CNN versus what percentage you. think are going to get the highlight. reels on Instagram and Twitter what do. you think I mean I think it's. overwhelming the percentage who will. watch portions of it rather than the. whole thing you think it's 8020 at least. okay so who cares so part of me is like. okay go ahead do what you want to do.
with this right uh because the clips on. this side that they're going to cut it. edit it put it out there the audience is. going to go at it you're going to see. the polls you're going to see the. reactions you're going to see who's. going to be better editors nowadays the. better editing team creating better. Clips in a fast manner with the right. music with the right creative you know. b-roll and things you add to it uh. trumps camps a better marketer they've. always been better marketers the other. side has no clue how to do marketing but. maybe the bar is lower for Biden I mean.
you see these clips of him daily. drooling and mangling names and. identifying his sister as his wife and. he's just so out of it and then they. juice him up on something to the point. where as at the state of the union he. seems sort of non- scile so maybe if he. pulls that off why doesn't Trump just. say like what drugs are you on why don't. you disclose that maybe he will maybe. he'll ask it and you know saying the. things about calling his sister's wife. that's his personal business it's not. your business T I mean you know I don't. know why you're getting.
would I don't know if you've ever been. to West Virginia people live in. different ways there's different. standards we have and I don't think we. should judge that totally totally fair. and by the way compared to the trans. stuff that's not that weird um so how do. you rate the Peril to Trump personally. physical Peril Oh you mean the two of. them going up against no two Trump now. so Trump's way ahead actually farther. ahead than a candidate typically is in. May of an election year mhm and we sort. of know that that's the red line it. can't have Trump so I've asked him this.
directly didn't get an answer but do you. worry that he could be harmed between. now and then well I mean saki briefly. said you know the risk that he stands in. a most indirect way and Jen [ __ ] yes and. I don't know if you've seen the movie. Civil War that just came out if you've. seen the movie Civil War it's about a. it's a commercial for roers of left-wing. journalist and depicting the president. of the time during the Civil War of an.
identical character played as Donald. Trump and the hero of the movie to my. knowledge the way I saw the movie was. the person that assassinates the. president last minute in the last minute. of the movie the president playing the. role of trump gets assassinated in the. movie how many people does that movie. need to inspire for somebody to become. so I haven't seen it but if so the. Assassin the Lee Harvey Oswald or is the.
hero at the end probably not actually. the Assassin but whatever it he's the. hero the guy who murders the president. is the hero in the movie the way they. sell it is that the the the president. playing the character of trump is an. evil man who made this movie uh uh there. you know it's very different than the. other movie that was made Leave the. World Behind by Obama and Julia Roberts. uh this actually had a decent cast for. the movie uh it's a very hard movie to. watch Leave the World Behind was. actually a better produced movie more.
dark more. deceptive uh extremely divisive a lot of. messaging in there predictive. programming stuff that you can watch and. say this can actually happen one day um. but yeah I mean look a lot of like you I. don't know if you've seen the movie John. Q first time I watch John Q Denzel. Washington do you know the story about. John Q okay so it's a story about a. father whose son is a fan of flex. wheeler he wants to be a bodybuilder and. a son all of a sudden heart collapses. and I think it's in the middle of a. baseball game they take him to the. hospital H it's going to cost $250,000.
to do a surgery and the company doesn't. offer uh uh you know allowing him to get. the insurance because he doesn't have. the best insurance and he's trying to go. raise the money he can't raise the money. it's pointing a a a a picture of a. father about to lose a son because the. hospital is not willing to spend. $250,000 to save this kid's life right. and you are going through this emotional. roller coaster ride with the father how. many fathers are going to sit there and. say holy [ __ ] what is this all about.
right and then eventually there's a. scene where he tells Kevin Conelly the. actor from uh um Entourage and he says. listen guys just take it out of my heart. and give it to him it's this unique. scene it's like I'm not going to do that. if you're not going to do it I'm going. to kill myself you're going to take it. out of my heart and you're going to give. it to my son intense intense movie then. while they're there he's talking to his. son son is laying on the bed at the. hospital and he says look here's what I. want you to think about he says my son.
buries me I don't bury my son that's. right my son buries me that's how it. needs to be so you're you're like yeah. and as a father you're feeling it well. that was right before. Obamacare how many people did that movie. influence to say you know what we do. need affordable care you know so movies. have a lot of power I mean if you go. back in the days do you know who. produced the first uh Titanic the movie. no it's a guy named Adolf Hitler you. know who the hero was in the movie The. First the Titanic the iceberg the the.
first the hero in the movie is the Nazi. Soldier if you go and pull up first. Titanic produced by Germany Adolf Hitler. the hero is painted as the Nazi Soldier. the way you confuse propaganda. storytelling is movies docs music you. know what this I mean this is how you. get the audience and the younger. audience to buy in so you mean to tell. me the movie Civil War cannot inspire. one kid to want to be a hero and being.
written about for the rest of his life. in history books you mean to tell me one. kid is not going to be inspired by so I. worry about some of this predictive. programming they're putting because. they're they're going to say well you. can't just say it was a movie that did. it doesn't take a lot of stuff to get a. young kid to be inspired to do something. so that's my part that's a little bit. worrisome uh about what could happen in. the future but uh yeah I I think they're. willing to do anything and anything. everything and anything to not get him. in the white house cuz they worry if. they do they're going to lose their. membership out I don't know you saw what.
James Comey said yesterday he got. emotional if he gets in there he's going. to completely change everything with our. justice system he's going to do. everything with FBI and he's going to. put some bad people in there and I'm. telling you guys this is the we you. cannot you cannot vote for Trump you. have to support I've never seen Comey be. this animated about Biden being a. president this just happened yesterday. so there's a lot of people that are. worried about you got to wonder is you. listen to Comey talk or Brennan or all. these former agency heads of the most.
powerful agencies in the world these. guys still have security. clearances of course they do for sure. they use them for their jobs right. that's a privilege not a right and those. should be revoked immediately by Donald. Trump day [ __ ] one why do those guys. still have security clearances I mean if. you're if you believe in democracy if. you think that people who live in the. country own the country it's their. government and they have a say in how. it's run and that that government should. reflect their priorities over time and I. think we all claim to believe that then. you can't have unelected agency heads or.
retired unelected agency heads running. everything behind the scenes that is. just absolutely antithetical to. democracy so why do these guys. continue to be allowed legally to run. the government from outside the. government right so but that's not hard. is it no it's not but everybody. everybody is ambitious in their own way. some more some less but if you look at. the profile of the top ambitious people. that they go on different routes okay. one is going to be Fame I want to be a.
celebrity I want people to stop me and. say can I take a picture with you Tucker. I want to do a selfie wow I'm famous did. you see this that's ambitious I'm gonna. be famous one day right okay great then. the other one is ambitious we're GNA be. millionaires we going to be billionaires. we GNA have all the money in the world. okay great so one is Fame the other one. is money the other one is power to tell. you what to do the money guys it's a. number you can measure it it and you can. see this guy's winning because his net.
worth is $200 billion his name is Elam. mus this guy's number two at $180. billion this guy's number three 165. billion you know Zuck there's a leader. bulletin for it Fame Kim Kardashians got. 400 million followers on Instagram this. person's got 500 million Ronaldo's got. 600 million you can measure Fame right. how do you measure politics how do you. measure what's the resume of measuring. success in politics and somebody working. for the federal government working for. you know a an FBI or CIA and you know uh.
and I know you're not very familiar with. this organization called CIA but it's. it's a rough organization it's very. interesting organization could you. should look into them uh some. interesting people have gone through. there but so you see what do they want. what are they driven by what do they. want to do is their ambition what is it. money no is it Fame no Fame is actually. straight up okay cool you want to be. famous go do XYZ you want to make money. go do XYZ but the power people oof you. got to be very careful with them a lot. of times like the way so how do you. measure power so so the way you see and.
this is it's it's easy in the business. World say a guy I had Michael Fran on. years ago when he he and I started doing. podcasts did a couple interviews with. him good guy and the mob world right and. I he's a good guy yeah I want to know. what the so he took me we went to New. York because I was going to interview. his father Sunny. Frances and sunny is a guy that comes. from the era of Lucky luchano Myer. Lansky Frank Castello Ben seag comes. from that era one of the most you call.
Ben Ben seagull you can't say bu right. you got to say Ben let me tell you how I. met the guy who murdered him any he K. his Aro when I was a kid no [ __ ] yeah. killed 1947 he's a friend of my dad's. we' go have dinner at his house and uh. yeah he he murdered bugy seagull yeah. shot him in the face with a 30 caliber. wow big round what was it like face uh. he never married never had kids he was a. cat guy he collected stray cats and my. father uh loved animals and was good. friends with Eddie K my brother and I.
take us over for dinner make canalone. live with his parents it was all very. weird anyway but he killed Bugsy seagull. but I remember hearing the conversation. yeah don't call him Bugsy he wasn't so. so here's the thing so so we go out and. I'm like I'm trying to convince Sunny. let me interview you he says for 55. years I've never I went to jail for 55. years the only thing I can take to my. grave is I never snitched on anybody. this is not a lie this guy did 55 years. in jail out of 103 Years of Living okay. never said anything to nobody.
right I get him in the car taking him to. his favorite Italian restaurant okay we. pick him up from the old folks home and. I'm driving so shny what can you tell me. about Myer Linsky great guy I heard he. made a lot of money in a many different. ways phenomenal guy what what can you. say about Bugsy seagull don't don't say. that you can't say that you call him Ben. well what can you tell me about Ben very. good guy really how about Frank Castello. fantastic guy how about everybody's a. good gun like Sunny come on Sunny I mean.
just no these are standup guys I don't. know what you're talking about stand-up. guys Sunny eventually doesn't agree to. do the interview that interview never. happens okay but Sunny told his son he. said be very careful of the people that. are lower power people in the mob family. cuz one day they could be a boss and. when they do become a boss they're going. to remember every way you disrespected. them they're going to seek their. Vengeance on you in their own way so be. very careful to the lower level people. that are coming up one day they could be.
your boss okay all right. so you're running a company you see a. guy that's been with you for 5 years. he's doing a good job he's a work he. does 60 hours a week standup guy effort. attitude teamwork Innovation results. competency specialized skill he's got. all that stuff then all of a sudden he. goes from being a performer maybe he's. got one or two people reporting to him. you make him a VP and that's got 35. people under his Division and then all. of a sudden you see him. become a tyrant and a dictator like wait.
a. minute did it just happen overnight or. was that always in there but you were. hiding it and boom now that you have the. power now you're abusing it right A lot. of these people in the political side. deep down inside someone offended them a. mom a dad a cousin an ex a friend a. professor a teacher somebody and their. way of seeking vengeance is to have. control over for other people Lincoln.
said you want to find out test someone's. character give them power these guys not. have power and they're showing what. they're all about and they fear somebody. coming in that's a non-establishment guy. coming in they could lose that and be. exposed they are not willing to give. that up they're not willing to give that. up it's going to take everything they. can to take that privilege away from. them and that's not going to be an easy. thing for Trump to do you may have come. to the obvious conclusion that the real. debate is not between Republican and. Democrat or socialist and capitalist. right. left the real battle is between people.
who are lying on purpose and people who. are trying to tell you the truth it's. between good and evil it's between. honesty and falsehood and we hope we are. on the former side that's why we created. this network the Tucker Carlson Network. and we invite you to subscribe to it you. go to tuckercarlson.com. podcast our entire archive is there a. lot of behind the scenes footage of what. actually happens in this Barn uh when. only an iPhone is running Tucker Carl. say.
/p podcast you will not regret it I. guess the the difficulty for um the. power worshipping Community is that they. already did this in 2020 and now that. you know tempers have cooled and people. can think clearly they stole the. election nobody actually thinks that was. a free and fair election it wasn't and. so the bar is a lot higher like how do. you do that again and if you do it again. everyone's going to know you did it. again and then what kind of of country. do you have in January of 2025 steady.
Trends Trends if you a a great stock. broker is somebody that looks at Trends. Seasons months days announcements. quarterly calls you know industry Market. election you have to look at everything. on a board to say according to this and. XYZ and what's going on right now this. should happen next in the next quarter. go to the history books and look at well. when we raised the interest rate this. many times here's what happened next. when we were going through inflation you. look at all the case that is like when.
Co first happened Jennifer and I are in. uh Beverly Hills we're about to have a. board meeting and then last meeting. everybody that's supposed to Flying. cancels I'm like what the hell is going. on we brought the kids we're about to go. to Universal that's the day Rudy Gober. gave Donovan Mitchell from the Utah Jazz. covid and you know NHL shuts down NBA. shuts down that's the day Disney shuts. down univ what the hell is going on we. got a fly back we fly back to Dallas I. take the family to the house I come back. to the office and I'm studying all the.
different pandemics that we've had and. you'll see out of all the pandemics. we've had how the market has reacted 90%. of the top 10 pandemics we've had. massive Market drop off but every one of. them six months later it came back to. exactly what it used to be if not higher. there's only one that didn't recover for. 12 months and that's AIDS everything. else six-month recovery right so I could. sit there and say well this could be. fear porn Market's going to go down to. to 18,000 177,000 D whatever could.
happen but it's fear it's going to come. back up 6 months later that's exactly. what happened right boom boom came back. up okay so Trends things to study. patterns on what's going on with today. if we go to 2016 election the mistake. mainstream Media made was what CNN kept. inviting Trump he said yes they kept. inviting him yes MSNBC yes we're getting. all these crazy ratings we're killing at. MSNBC no he's bringing you ratings and. and then all of a sudden they're like. guys we created a monster it's too late.
we've done a half a billion dollars of. free media advertisement for this guy oh. yeah and he didn't even need to spend. the money on it holy [ __ ] he just. won are you kidding me this didn't work. the defamation and you know all this. stuff damn guys this is not going to. work in 2020 so go to 2020 what did they. do in 2020 we got to find a different. Playbook 2016 they used me too backfired.
on them when Trump brought the. candidates Shan and all this other stuff. right and he's likew let me tell you who. we have here Paul of this and know you. see Clinton looking like this that. famous picture oh I was there for that. so 2020 all Bill Clinton's girlfriends a. pretty impressive right was amazing yeah. yeah yeah. 2020 May 25th you need chaos May 25th. what happens George Floyd gets. assassinated now George Floyd dies now. gets assassinated the word they wanted. to kind of use obviously bger thing but.
George. Floyd the number of minutes that it took. place KN all that stuff next day riots. protesting Insanity what do Republicans. start saying look man I like him but I. don't know why maybe they're right the. more he's in there the more chaos. happens in the streets and I just want. the chaos to slow down that's what I. want of course that strategy worked very. effectively here's what they're doing. 2024 that you can see some case studies. of what they're doing what's not going. to work what are they doing in 2024 that.
they haven't learned their lesson. they're making a mistake that they made. in 2016 but they're doing it in a. different way 2016 all CNN MSNBC AB ABC. CBS ever talked about was what Trump. Trump trump Trump trump but they invited. him well they're not inviting him now. but what are they doing because he's in. court and all these different cases they. have to keep talking about him over and. over thinking that strategy is going to. work for them because they're getting. ratings what they're not realizing again. they're coming the best publicist PR for.
this guy and now it's like oh my God. it's backfiring on us again all we're. talk look at the black vote in 2020 he. only had 9% in. 2024 he's got 22 22% of the. africanamerican vote and what's even. worse than this the people that are. above 65 81% of them are for democra and. you know most of these guys go but the. younger audience were losing this is not. good if we're losing younger audience if.
we lose the younger audience could this. be a bury gold water will the. African-American vote flips for the next. three decades they're now seeing that. this strategy is not working however the. part that you have to see the case study. is the. following so pinning Muslims against. Jews against Christians against Pro. Palestine against Gaza Hamas pro-israel. all this stuff you can have your own. position we can all have our own. position we don't need to go there if. you don't want to go there but here's. the part. where they're winning is what kids in.
schools riots protesting you know and. they're doing what they're doing all. they're waiting for is the next George. Floyd that's all they need they need. their next George Floyd and what month. are we in right now today's what May. 22nd okay May 25th is coming up in three. days May 26th is in a few days they need. chaos back again except they're going to. do it in a different way I keep thinking. that about the Israel Palestine thing. I'm probably the only person in the. world who doesn't have very strong. feelings on it like Israel not against. the palestin I'm just kind of agnostic.
I'm just too American for this whole. conversation but when that becomes the. biggest news story in the United States. a conflict across the. globe and when these protests are blown. so out of proportion by all news media. you have to think like maybe this is not. a reflection of reality like maybe I'm. being played here a little bit right or. maybe I'm being played a lot well maybe. you are but I I I I want to apologize. cuz I didn't uh uh start off by. congratulating you on your on your uh uh.
one of the most honest Outlets out there. Newsweek reporting your massive contract. you signed with Russian TV. congratulations on that part of my. ongoing business relationship with. Vladimir Putin no they of course I never. even contemplated I I have no idea what. they're talking about I have nothing to. do with Russian media I couldn't even. identify three Russian media well that's. of course I don't speak Russian um but. that's a pretext for a fisa warrant so. you put that out there and you know. Newsweek knows this and and they're mad. at me for other reasons of course and um.
they put this out there and all of a. sudden it gives the B Administration you. know an excuse to spy on me which they. already are but um and have been over. the last several years uh but what's. crazy is you can live in a country where. that's completely illegal and everyone. knows it's happening and nobody says. anything about it and the only people. who do say anything about it like Julie. Assange or Ed Snowden like they're the. ones facing life in prison it's. like you know it's a little bit upside.
down I would say no but that story look. the media don't just mislead you they're. not just you. know worker bees for the Democratic. party they're you know they'll they want. to hurt you like actually hurt you like. put you in prison or kill you like. that's they're that um involved in the. Machinery of internal repression in this. country so you're not saying like you're. not saying that the doj would ever. uh give permission to use deadly force.
when they're invading a former when. they're going through melan's underwear. drawers that would never happen shows up. and says why you going through my night. gowns bam deadly force deadly force so I. I I would say that the problem that we. have as non you know as people are not. part of the machine um you don't need to. it's not even a right or left question. it's are you on the side of lies or or. you not is we don't understand just how. serious they are MH I mean if you were. running doj and you saw a search warrant.
that said yes the use of deadly for. supplies in a documents case a. classified documents Case by the way the. documents were meaningless no one's ever. shown otherwise doesn't matter you could. put them on the internet now it just. doesn't matter actually um and if you. were the attorney general and you were. looking through the warrant and said use. of deadly forces is allowed you'd say. whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa we're we're. literally rooting through melan's. dresser we don't need to use deadly. wouldn't you say that just as a the fact.
who believes in fairness and Sanity the. fact that you're putting that in there. to give. permission and it's just kind of you. know water under yeah no worries Next. News cycle it's not a big story Next. News cycle it's not a big story but what. does it say it says that that they're. serious enough to kill you absolutely. they are Gonzalo lra got murdered in. Ukrainian prison that's of course run by. the state department and CIA basically. killed by the Biden Administration yeah. no big deal well I mean at least an.
American citizen but at least the. confidence comes the fact that never in. the history of us has the government. ever assassinated a president so it's. not like that kind of a person who's a. very ambitious vice president would. never do that to become a president. historically and within minutes want to. be sworn in that that you know sounds. like a dangerous conspiracy theory to me. so let me ask you though that it's. pretty clear to me that two summers ago. so August 2022 when that deadly force. raid on MAR Lago took place and they. rooted through the former first ladyes.
underwear um that was the moment when. Trump kind of came back like disantis. was done this is my read on it the more. they persecute Trump. unfairly um the more transparently. grotesque and corrupt it is the stronger. Trump becomes I mean I think that seems. pretty obvious there's been polling on. this do you think the people who did it. knew that would happen like how. much like how much of like this did they. think through no I don't I don't I. actually don't think they thought it.
would happen I think they think it's. working I think they think it's working. and now it's too late Michael Cohen did. you steal from the Trump organization. yes sir I did what yeah I did holy [ __ ]. so now CNN has to somebody on CNN has to. say it's over for this guy right yeah so. this. is this is another reason why sometimes. when people are we're going to sue those. guys go ahead and do D then comes. Discovery you got to also give me your.
Discovery right meaning so when you're. suing I want to see your Discovery give. me your disc let's go through it you're. sue me great let's go through I want to. see discovery on text exchange email. exchange oh [ __ ] no no we don't want to. do that but that's how lost its work I. want also Discovery right so now it's. backfiring now they have to sit there I. mean if we really play this thing God. I'd be curious with you why do you think. they chose to all of a sudden flip June. 27. debate and then the next one's going to.
be you know in September and first one I. think is CNN second one I think it's ABC. if I'm not mistaken why do you think all. of a sudden they flip so quickly are you. part of the camp that thinks maybe. they're trying to see how good he's. going to be to kind of replace him or. what is the motive of trying to I mean. there are many levels I and I don't know. the answer um I think it's getting a. little late to try and replace him. honestly and I think that'd be a pretty. hard sell and with whom and what do you. do with comma this is the problem with. Dei with elevating people beyond their. capacity taking like a true mouth.
breathing [ __ ] like KLA Harrison making. her vice president like they are these. are the wages of sin that they're. dealing with now and I'm really glad to. see it so I don't know that they replace. them I don't know how they can maybe. they're more clever than I am and have a. plan I think it's as simple as the guy. who's down wants a debate he needs to. change the storyline you know if the. trend is hurting Joe Biden it's not his. friend and so they got to do something. like why not a debate you know and again. it comes back.
to to pharmacology like they're. injecting him with drugs and so for a. short period of time he can seem. sentient and aware and semi- capable old. but not a vegetable the rest timing is a. vegetable and I think they can get away. with that for an hour and a half or two. hours and I think that's I mean again I. don't know but my guess is they think. they just have to show that he's not as. scile as you think he is and that's. going to be. enough it was at the at did you watch. State of the Union I did he didn't seem.
quite as [ __ ] as he normally does no. he didn't and that's drugs I mean I I. know someone a makeup artist who worked. on Joe Biden um during the 2020 campaign. who was there when he got the drugs like. in the room with the doctor what kind of. drugs presumably amphetamines okay you. know Aderall some version of that right. and um so who watched it and over a. series of days and told me all about it. so that's absolutely real. and we've never gotten a readout on what.
drugs he's taking by the way he's the. president of United States he is a. nuclear Arsenal at his command he has. the briefcase I mean he should be. required to disclose what drugs he's. taking no yeah I mean we would want to. know but you know that's never going to. happen I mean that that's never well. then who's in control of the government. he's our employee if your housekeeper. shows up and she seems drunk you get to. say are you drunk prove you're not drunk. or go home H how how much do you love. America a lot what is is America to you. America is my family my neighbors my.
ancestors um America is the. grandchildren I don't yet have America. is also a physical place it's the water. it's the trees especially it's the. mountains it's the coast it's the. physical beauty of the country it's a. physical place to me it is absolutely. not an idea I don't even know what that. means and it's it's a physical reality. to me America has a smell America has a. Vibe and America is Americans and so. it's the people live here by the way if. America is filled with people who aren't.
American it's no longer America and. that's what's happening of course it was. not the country I grew up in therefore. it's not I mean then what's my. attachment to the country a place is the. people who occupy the place and it's the. physical surroundings we're in a room. we're in a barn right now and it's you. know the wood beams holding up the hay. loft but it's also you and your wife one. of my you know what I mean so it's it's. real things that you can touch and smell. and taste it's not there's nothing. abstract about it just like there's. nothing abstract about my wife like I.
like the way she smells right she's not. an idea is your wife an ideah mhm. no she's a physical. presence right so um that's what America. is to me yes so and and how worried are. you about that. America uh being at risk or collapsing. or losing some of its mock seed that. it's had for two and a half centuries. how worried are you about that well I've. accepted the reality at least in the. second part of your question question. that it's already happened it's lost its. Moxy and men are.
in terminal Decline and you I see it all. around me particularly young men they're. defeated they're defeated by A system. that set out to defeat them and and. succeeded and um there are a lot of. reasons for that but in a lot of ways. that they were defeated but they have. been not all but the the broad middle. has been defeated and um so I'm. incredibly sad about that but I think. about America the way that I think. about you you know a ship that's leaking. it's like one thing I know is I'm.
staying on it whether it you know I'll. ride it to the bottom or not but I'm. here so okay so at what. capacity are you willing to contribute. for it not to leak is it at any capacity. or is it limited capacity that you're. willing to person well I don't have any. options and and by the way if I were in. charge you know if I were some sort of. benign Monarch hopefully benign uh you. know no dual passports in my country. sorry I mean because that that really is. the measure of commitment you know are. you Allin or not like do you have.
options you know have you burned the. boats as they say and I think you should. be required to burn the boats no you. can't go back what you're here and once. you are this is what marriage is this is. why you treat your wife better than you. treat your girlfriend because you're. married to her and it's very hard to get. out of and you got children together and. so in a normal marriage the person's. like well one thing I know I'm not doing. is divorcing so I'm gonna actually try. I'm G to suck it up and try and that. works sucking it up and trying works. I feel the same way about my country I'm. not going anywhere I don't have another.
passport I wouldn't get another passport. how many people do I know with dual. passports like a million and they tend. to be the richest people and the people. who've gotten the most from the country. who've really benefited from our systems. which they've then destroyed and I think. that should be illegal like pick a. country and pick a military no you can't. serve in a foreign military what and no. we're not going to pay you to serve in a. foreign I don't care what the country I. don't care if it's England or Sweden. where my ancestors came from I don't. care if it's Burkina FASA where yours. came from or or Ron where yours came. from it's like no and you should be all.
in I I just the whole idea of it it's. like an Airbnb they're using the country. is like a [ __ ] Airbnb to them and. it's not an Airbnb it's my house that's. how I feel okay so let's stay on that. when whenry no this is this is very this. is very helpful serving in a foreign. military when when you talking about the. uh any milit I mean but I know what. you're talking about cuz I read the read. the uh notes on if you're able to serve. in Israel that's going to count as you. ha I do not hate I like Israel how does.
that but what is a I don't I don't even. want to get sidetracked how is that even. the logic to say like you serve in. another military council is the same as. I don't care what I don't care if it's. my name is Carlson I'm Swedish if you. serve in the Swedish military get out. what's the you're not Sweden I mean what. how is their argument to us though how. are they saying there's no argument. there's just like you hate this or that. no I don't hate anybody and actually in. the case of that specific country I've. been there a number of times I could. describe it in detail because it's one. of my favorite places in the world I'm.
just saying I do not just the you know. the ancient city that defines the. country in my opinion not the modern. Miami knockoff that everyone loves but. the real Jerusalem it's unbelievable and. the people and the food and like I just. like it so I'm not going to fall for. that you hate it no I don't hate it I. just love my country and I think you can. only have one country at a time I don't. believe in polygamy either you got one. wife and by the way if you have two. wives I know people who are polygamous. and I you know with respect you're not. all in on any one wife so it's like well.
she's acting crazy see you and you go. deal with the other wife right and it. your commitment is less when it's diffus. when you've got more than one you cannot. serve two masters I I believe I'm. quoting someone in that it's just true. it's factually true well if you got four. wives and you're running a podcast you. immediately have a couple sponsors seis. diag like hey uh I'm here with my four. wives this is uh brought you by do you. know anyone who's polygamous have you. known polygamous people yes of course I. had a guy that came interviewed for a. job and he came from Africa and he had.
32 kids I said how how do you have I'd. love to have 20 kids how do you have 32. kids but he's got eight wives so. mathematically math is in his it's a lot. is he Muslim uh I I don't remember. because that's that's double the allowed. amount the problem with polygamy in. Islam um which is actually a lot more. I'm not flacking for Islam I'm a. Christian but it's it's a lot more. Humane Than People Say and a lot less. common than people imagine because the. rules are pretty tough on polygamy in. Islam you have to treat each wife the.
same and that means spend the same. amount of money spend the same amount of. time so if you take one wife to Disney. World with her kids you got to take the. next wife to Disney World with her kids. for the same amount of time so you know. it takes a lot of money and a lot of. effort to make it right are you. suggesting for term limits in marriage. like is that kind of what you're saying. I'm suggesting actually that that. monogamy works really well I'm just. trying but um specify because sometimes. you know there could be a gray area but. let me go to my question so obviously. this is the first time you and I have.
ever met okay the last we had last night. of course but what I'm saying is we've. never met prior to this we've never. spoken this is the first interaction. we've had the last 24 hours great time. last night uh that was the real podcast. that that you know that. was a real podcast but anyways we won't. go there but but the but the convers the. question I got for you is when I was. watching you and I'm trying to see you. know the the evolution of Youth from. where you're at your background what. you've done sit saying okay is this oh.
he's leaving because he's going to build. news Court too because he wants to be. the next you know rubert Murdoch like I. don't know if that's what he wants to do. he's going to be Roger alss and he's. going to produce a hundred other talents. maybe I don't know no no he wants to be. the rush Limar you know the number one. for the next two decades and he wants to. be a so okay he is already that guy I. don't think he needs to do that no then. there's a part of me that says okay I.
really think this guy loves America in a. very sincere clear conviction type of. way okay and I think he's willing to do. anything for. that this is not a conversation for 2024. do you at all like internally think and. you know you're very well- read guy. there's books here there's plenty of. books over there um do you look at. Churchill and you say this guy was a. journalist controversial figure the feud. with him and Chamberlain and all these. other guys and EV is like listen man we. got to need somebody like this that's. got the brass to come and do something.
do you have is there any limit of where. you're willing to go to fight for what. America uh the idea of America where you. grew up your story your family all of. that are you willing to go all the way. to the point where you would consider a. 2028 run as a president well I you know. I I believe in using the gifts that God. gave you and I I think putting people in. the wrong jobs or the wrong marriages or. the wrong schools is counterproductive. in fact it's a sin think we're all born. for something and you should figure out.
what that is and you should do it my my. dogs two of my dogs can find any bird on. any path in any field or Forest in. America they will find the bird they do. not do my taxes because they're not born. to do my taxes they're born to find. birds and I feel that way about myself. and everyone around me do what you're. born to do and I just don't see myself. as a political person my only goal is to. be free personally free I really believe. in personal Liberation like tell the. truth that that's Liberation about. yourself primarily but also about the.
world around you and my second goal is. to. preserve you know the the country that I. grew up in to the extent that I can I. mean recognizing that my powers are. really limited and that my vision is. blurry and I'm a human being not God and. but yeah that's absolutely my goal I. have never been that interested in money. and at all and I'm not interested in. building large organizations or. administering them I I'm not good at. that and I just wanted tell the truth. and I'm absolutely willing especially.
now that I'm 55 like who cares you know. you're looking at a future of what like. Parkinson's like really a certain age. you're like what do you I see these old. people including a lot of old people. inow who were like trying to squeeze out. another year it's. like accept your mortality please spend. some time with the people you love and. who love you your children your. grandchildren your wife none of them. want to accept the the finite nature of. life so I do accept that and so I just.
want to do whatever I can to achieve. those two goals to remain free and. honest inside and to preserve the. country that I really love like I loved. growing up here and um and so have. previous generations in my family and I. hope subsequent Generations so that's. that's kind of it I have always had low. boore goals I don't have any grand plan. for world domination I can I can't even. dominate my town you know but um but I. would do anything to do that anything. anything so you would consider 2028 run.
yeah I don't think I'd be very good at. it but I would do whatever I could to. help I want to be helpful right and that. is the motto of my family actually. inside my wedding ring it says forever. your helper and my wife says that too. because I believe in helping I think. that's that's our duty as Christians. it's our duty as people it's the most. fulfilling thing you can do is just to. help in some small way you're never. going to figure it out you're never. going to fix everything because you're. not God to repeat you're not God but you. can make incremental progress and you. should never stop trying so I would I.
mean would you oh no question about it. this country has changed my life yeah. there's uh uh absolutely but do you. think there's a political I mean this is. such a cliche at this point but is there. a political solution to the problems. that beset us what are you going to do. if you're not involved how are you going. to be able to make direct impact you can. talk about all this stuff all you want. if you're not on the inside to see. what's really going on then what are you. going to do because I think we're I. think articulating things out loud makes. all the.
difference policy change policy change. for sure but those follow typically. follow changes of heart I mean there are. some policies that nobody wants and they. change everything because they're. imposed by Fiat that's real on the other. hand look at what triggers the Liars. it's not policy changes it's some guy. standing up and saying wait that's not. true the CIA knew about Oswalt like shut. up you know it's like or whatever it is. like why don't you declassify the 911. document shut up conspiracy theorist.
it's like why is that so threatening and. it's so threatening because it's getting. closer to the truth so saying the truth. out loud I mean they spend all of their. time trying to censor people why do they. do that because that's the greatest. threat to them it's not some Bill in. Congress that can be undone what can't. be un if you get in an argument with. your wife and you say something truly. horrible to her like vicious and you. know true MH kind of hard to fix that. like it' be many years before you fix. that because you've articulated. something those words have hung in the.
air as a kind of independent entity like. words have their own being MH in the. beginning was the word. and that had that does more damage than. punching somebody it's true so I don't. know I think telling the truth out loud. um is like the most powerful and. revolutionary thing that you can do yeah. but you need you so so what'll happen is. here's what I no that's going on um so. we're at a family uh Goldman Sachs event.
in Chicago last week and they bring. these 60 billionaire families and it's. about family uh Family Forum Family uh. uh founder Family Forum something like. that right it was actually very. interesting thing thing to go because. it's generational wealth to see how. other families have done it so you saw. all the owners of the different sports. teams Rin dorf you know they own the. Bulls you got the Cubs you got the. Blackhawk you got the crown family. General Dynamics 30 billion family and. they're kind of going through it and.
then you have the Walsh family very very. interesting to listen to these. guys one of the parts when they're the. the crown Family Guy keing is talking he. says you know in our family I'm fourth. generation I'm the oldest G4 and G4. means fourth generation kid he's a. 47-year-old G4. okay his daughter is a 12-year-old who's. the oldest G5 out of.
150 okay so you got a oldest G4 oldest. G5 now G5 is 150 kids grandkids so. imagine 150 kids that are coming from a. billionaire family like uh how much of. that is coming to me what do I it's kind. of complicated to how to use that right. okay so watch this so then the next guy. comes up and is breaking down the. numbers saying do you know what. percentage of wealthy families money. makes it to Second Generation G2 31% do. you know what percentage makes it to G3. 12% do you know what percentage makes it.
to G4 3% so wow 31 123 to G4 what is it. to G5 G6 G7 okay so where am I going. with this America is a family is a. company right and it started off with. the wealth that's been created and now. we got G1 G2 G3 G4 whatever it is today. G20 G30 G40 we're on a different G right. and except now it's like a super wealthy.
family let's put a net worth of 32. trillion or $30 trillion minus all the. credit card debt that we have that's. another $32 trillion and we got a. Topline revenue of say $4 trillion. whatever our GDP that we're doing per. year no problem so you break this down. and you're trying to get that money was. like hey what am I going to get how' you. forget about me I did this you owe me. this much money oh [ __ ] we got to make. this guy we got to make that guy got to. make this guy the way it's going it's.
catastrophic on what's going to happen. MoneyWise here very soon with the Next. Generation that are entitled on what. you're going to give to them next. okay. so many times just like when you look at. people that should have more kids don't. the people that don't have the resources. are not teaching the values are not that. responsible or not the examples of a. good citizen to duplicate other kids. they're having 7 eight n kids and so. we're duplicating the wrong habits at a. pace faster than duplicating the right.
habits eventually what ends up happening. is people that are not qualified to run. a job do so and they have control over. you and I I think it was Plato that said. it I've noticed those who think it's. foolish to study politics will be. governed by fools who do that's right. those who think it's foolish to study. politics will be governed by full sudo. okay if if guys who have the mouthpiece. debate history argument if those guys.
who should consider running don't run. fools will and now we're going to be. governed by it's the story of KL Harris. I mean when I was a child I got my first. driver's license in 1985 or something is. 1985 KLA Harris would be working at the. DMV and you'd think like how did someone. like this get a job at the DMV like. she's dumb prestigious job she's. annoying she clearly hates me for. reasons I can't control um and then you. wake up in a country where she's a US. senator then vice president United. States it's like no I completely agree. with you the problem is it's hard to fix.
that the generational I mean I actually. you know grew up in a family like this. you know G5 or whatever and like you. look around and everybody's kind of not. impressive and self-hating and not. productive and increasingly not rich at. all and drinking too much and decadent. and filled with all kinds of unst and. all that like generational wealth does. not I've almost never seen it work. so what's the answer to that well I.
don't think the answer is sitting on the. sidelines and having them keep getting. more and more you just describe the. problem of the country right I'm not. attacking the crown family or the. Goldman Sachs family so I wonder how. screwed up the G5 is and all those. families pretty screwed up of course it. is like big time uh no question about it. so what happens in families happens at. scale it happens in countries for sure. but also at the same time you know when. when uh uh you go and study Lawrence. Miller's book barbarians to bureaucrats. he talks about every civilization every. society every country company goes.
through these phases first you have the. prophet he's the founder you have the. founding father right hey we're going to. go out there and there's no way we're. going to pay taxes on taxation without. represent [ __ ] okay these guys are not. wanting to pay taxes yeah we're not. going to they can't do that to us all. right then they Inspire. barbarians okay so jobs inspired. barbarians musk inspires barbarians. sometimes the prophet is a barbarian. musk is both right jobs is both our. founding fathers many of them were both.
so you got profit Barbarian Builders. explorers then you have administrators. oh yes then you have Aristocrats. bureaucrats then comes the downfall. company family Legacy G4 G5 it's done. and the only way at this point that you. can save that Civilization that society. that company is for a synergist that. comes in and is able to rally enough of. the people to say here's what we're. going to be doing he's not trying to.
Rally the aristocrats he's not trying to. Rally the bureaucrats you're not going. to get those guys those guys got to get. fired he's trying to Rally the builders. the Explorers the guys that are saying. hey man I just want to kind of go out. there and build my. business we I feel we're at an era right. now we're at a phase right now where the. synergists need to say you know what I. feel like I can play the role for this. great let's roll I think these. guys need to right now I to be recruited. they need to be inspired they need to. have people that come to them and have a.
conversation saying hey I think you need. to consider we got five of us here we. came here for one reason we're thinking. about talking to you about 2028 not. interested not this not not saying these. conversations are not happening of. course they're happening behind closed. doors regularly but I think these guys. if America's worth saving if the concept. of saving America is something that we. value we need to either choose if we can. contribute kind of like you or we need. to inspire and recruit and you know get. others to say I think you ought to.
consider doing this I mean I think you. you need a whole class of people I mean. I I feel like I'm unusual statistically. unusual in that I'm a white American. Born man who's not like suicidal on some. level I don't I don't think there's a. virtue in destroying things including. myself not just not into it I I just. don't feel that way at all I'm sort of. you know what I mean have a lot to. appreciate in everything and I love my. family but there aren't that many people. like that and it is it is the product of. generational wealth I mean there are a.
lot but statistically there are a lot of. people who I mean what's. transgenderism it's it's a form of. suicide of course what's drug addiction. a form of suicide what's chronic obesity. form of suicide it's all kind of. branches from the same tree and um so. it's really about the spirit and that's. why you know if you did immigration. right which we're not doing at all we're. using immigration as another tool to. destroy the country but you could. conceivably um you know add the energy.
and the non-suicidal impulses into your. country or gene pool that would be good. um but I don't kind of see a way out. like the people who were born in. 1969 um as I was you know just a lot of. them are just given up so what would you. say as a employer and as as an immigrant. who made it here what would you say to. like a 22-year-old man who can't get a. job go to some stupid College gets a. meaningless marketing degree and you. can't get a job you're a white man you. can't get a job what would you and and.
then they're on the internet all upset. they're not dating it's like it's a it's. a disaster I'm seeing all around me yeah. what would you say to that kid uh go. instead of pursuing a career pursue a. doer and someone to Shadow I don't think. it's about you going and saying I'm. going to go be a realtor I'm going to go. be a business analytic I'm going to go. be a predictive an I'm going to go be a. VP of this why don't you go work for a. person that's a prolific at what they do. and go model them go Shadow them that's. going to be a better University for you. than anything else we're sitting here.
last night who learned the most the guys. that were here that are watching The. Exchange the questioning hey what do you. think about this what about that going. back and forth to somebody that's 22. years old yesterday was 6 months worth. of media lessons last night what we just. went through right think about what that. happened those three hours last night. what would a 22y old gain from that what. would you and I gain at 22 if we were at. that room people like oh my God it's. crazy okay I get this makes sense so I. think to me it's more or go find the. right people to duplicate and Shadow and.
support them and if you can work under. them as closely as possible that'll be a. better degree for you than anything else. but let me go back to kind of what you. were saying saying I'm I'm 55 years old. the guys that were born in 1969 they're. kind of like like I'm just like you know. but that's they've given up but that's. exactly what they want you to do that's. exactly what doing no not you meaning. that's exactly what if the person's. that's exactly what they want you to do. they want you to be sitting there saying. yeah I mean what can I do you know I'm. just like I can't do anything about it. in in every organization in every great.
movie every great story every great book. the hero's journey you go through it's. typically the guy that doesn't want to. do it people are trying to encourage him. and then finally one day clicks boom and. then boom you know something happens. spirit opens up they go in intentional. or certain level of conviction deep down. aside where you're saying there's. something different about the way this. guy's selling it to me than others I. don't know why I like this guy I trust. this guy he seems reasonable I can.
listen to this guy I think those guys. are out there and the idea years. ago you know they asked Castro hey if. you had to do it all over again how many. thousands of people would you need to be. able to pursue your vision of Communism. and all this other would it be 10,000. would it be 100,000 would it be a. thousand he says I need one person who's. a 100% True Believer that's all I need. with one one we would have done it all. over again right there's this idea that. we think we need 70 80 a th000 10,000 we.
need one person who we can rally behind. and by the way the other thing I would. also say is you know the founding. fathers 1776 they did what they did. Benjamin Rush you got all these guys. Smith Jefferson you know Washington of. course Franklin all these names. right where are those guys. today who are getting together once a. month once a quarter once every six. months to talk. where are those guys today where are. those guys today do we not need those.
guys today and I'm not talking about. congress senate I'm talking about guys. that can hold those guys accountable. where are those guys today I don't know. but I think uh uh you know the great. thing about what's been going on the. last four years specifically maybe start. at 16 got pretty bad in covid 2020 2021. the one thing that's been very weird the. last four years the right people are. finding each other I totally agree it's. a beautiful thing do you feel the spirit. of the country changing do you feel that. people well I have noticed in my tiny.
weird little world that people do seem. Freer about what they say and think I. agree you you you feel that I fully. agree absolutely I agree and and by the. way I think a couple of it also we got. to give credit to the right people you. got to give credit to capitalism because. I think what Danny elect did with. Spotify defending Rogan was Monumental I. agree with that I think that was a very. very big move on what he did I think. musk buying Twitter and X Monumental if. Act doesn't do what he does he fires. Rogan if Elon never buys Twitter this is.
not the same America so there's been. also good moves behind closed doors. where people are sitting there and. saying okay all right [ __ ] if we act up. and we give strikes for everything and. we lose these guys they got a place to. go Spotify and they got a place to go. Twitter and X that is problem we can't. lose that guy because if we do then. people going to be like this is the. censorship crowd that oh what so what do. we got to do to get rid of Ilan. defamation we got to do we got to find. everything and anything we can on him.
right or what do we got to do with. Spotify he doesn't give a [ __ ] he's. living in a different country you can't. do anything to him and by the way. Spotify numbers came out right now I. don't know if you saw the reports from. this morning saying. 64% of fans of the podcast they follow. they rely on them for their political. views than what they get from mainstream. media and their numbers has grown 38. it's a beautiful thing it's a beautiful. thing and by the way just to show a a. rare flash of racial Pride go Sweden. Daniel go Sweden Sweden hasn't added a.
lot actually to the world in the last. 100 years this is one thing ever since. sa went out of business I kind of lost. faith but Spotify beautiful car yes sa. very sporty so what is I am really I'm. struck by so many things meia that's how. I spent my life but um one. like how is this shaking out like there. are a lot of conservative media Outlets. that I sort of took semi-seriously that. now I don't take seriously at all. they're obviously fake um and the news.
outlets I worked for for the past 30. years they're either they're all gone or. they're about to be gone NBC News is. going they're all going away obviously. so how does what does the landscape look. in five years in the media space. specific to conservative just broadly. okay so uh cable is dropping but not at. the pace people thought uh what peacock. did paying 110 ion for the Dolphins game. against the Chiefs and had 23 million.
people watching that they had to pay. what $4.99 or $999 that changed the game. with sports so cable CER saying holy. [ __ ] what are we going to do now I think. they just signed two NFL games that. either Amazon or Netflix one of those. guys paid some $100 million $120 million. so you're seeing Sports make the. transition out of cable TV because cable. TV has been saved by three communities. you got the Boomers you got the sports. community and you got big Pharma you. take those three out there is no cable. it's gone big Pharma gets their. advertising dollars through there so you.
need one president to come in and say. hey we're not going to be one of two. like New Zealand allowing you guys to. advertise on TV you're gone do it. elsewhere you're not going to advertise. anymore you know who goes out of. business if they do that 80% of these. guys if not more Boomers it's just a. matter of time I mean I don't think that. would that would just to pause for one. second I don't think that would save. America but I think it would improve. America a lot. tremendously tremendously people do you. take any head drugs are you in Xanax or. adero no no but I think everybody is.
right right and those drugs kill you and. destroy your brain and no one ever says. anything about it how many people do you. know are addicted to Xanax or atal I. know a lot personally I've lost friends. all that personally a number of them. yeah so Xanax and Aderall which are. considered like totally normal it's just. Xanax and Aderall like that's completely. evil I mean that's meth and um a. physically addictive benzo to aspan I. mean it's like really crazy and I can't. remember the last time I remember ever. seeing a story on either have you ever. seen a story on that the only one you.
would think about is when Tom Cruz went. on Matt laau and it pushed the envelope. and you know going at him I don't know. if you remember that where he's saying. why are we taking all these do I. remember it yes I remember I remember. thinking the Tom Cruz saying I don't. watch movies so I was like Tom Cruz is. like an actor he seems a little feminite. and weird he's in this cult Scientology. by the end of that I was like you know. what I I don't know Tom Cruz but I'm. kind of pro Tom Cruz cuz that guy is. telling the truth I don't care if it's. because of his weird religion or. whatever that's the truth oh that was. fascinating right or or even when uh uh.
uh Robert D DeNiro when he's at a film. festival and a documentary was coming. out about vaccine by I think Del big. tree and he's talking about the. documentary because he's got an autistic. son I think he's like 22 or 23 years old. that's one area where like we have to. look into this what's going on with this. and he's kept account of to at the time. the kid was 16 years old but I think. there's some moments and they suggested. there's a link between vaccines and O. seen this interview I have to show it to. you afterwards okay so he's talking. about it and the host is trying to shut.
him up he you guys got to see this. documentary and he's not one that uses. his kids as a we know where he's at with. Trump we know he's got TVs we know he. loses mind but when it comes down to. vaccine and autism that is a very. personal thing to him but can you. imagine not being allowed to ask yeah. that's a problem I mean I don't know if. that's true or not there's some evidence. that it is true and we do know um that. they took the additive out of the. vaccine but it of course had nothing to. do with autism but like in what world.
can't you ask that question or demand. like a straight forward answer they're. forcing your kids to take this stuff no. I mean listen if you think about. business models Tucker and I'll go back. to the question about the media. landscape kind I'll say this I'll say. this and I'll go back to the media. landscape if you think about business. models okay if if you and I go to a. hotel how do hotels make money let's. just say you and I own a hotel with 200. you know with 2,000 beds right. okay when we get our report from the guy. that's running the hotel what number do.
we want at the end of the month we want. to know out of the 31 days this month. times 2,000 beds that's. 60,000 times that these beds could have. been rented how many times were they. rented okay and say well you know we. were at 89% can we get it to 92% so what. do we need we need people staying in our. hotel to make money that's our business. model the business model of a hotel. isn't to have only 10% of the room is. being used you need people to St out. okay so what's the business model of.
hospitals uh it must be totally. different right right so we need those. beds to be filled and by the way do you. know the kind of numbers when it do you. know what is a number one industry for. the number one industry if you ask right. now what's the number one industry of. the most money they did last year you. know what most people would say would. they say energy oil you know that's only. half a trillion you know what's number. one hospitals 1 and A2 trillion. and when they ask him on how much you. charge for a basic surgery Bypass or.
whatever it is their rang is from you. know $44,000 up to 580,000 why is that R. such a big range and by the way who. controls your pricing and do you guys. have to report on what it really cost. you to do this and I think under Trump I. don't know if you remember this in 2020. 2021 he kind of came out with a law. forcing hospitals to report honestly. like here's what you're doing I think. out of 500 hospitals they audited 471. never even completed their numbers on. what they're so they're charging people. so most people think it's providers. making a lot of money providers are not.
making a lot of money they're losing. money the people that are making money. is hospital so Hospital models I need. sick people big Pharma models I need new. diagnosis the more new diagnosis I have. the more new drugs I can sell so I need. new drug diagnosis what is the you know. contractor's model military contractor I. need War if we don't have War how the. hell are we going to make money if I go. to mainstream media what do I need. controversy confli chaos that's how I. make my money when you actually look at. the business model of what these guys.
are doing they need chaos in problems to. keep making money okay so that part is a. very concerning thing so going back to. mainstream media three things keeping. them in Boomers big far Boomers and. sports so now what sports is happening. is a lot of these Sports guys are. realizing cable's not paying well I'm. going to go sign a contract with peacock. with Netflix with Amazon with all these. guys they're paying good money they got. a lot of money these are guys are dying. some of these smaller Sports Market are. saying I don't want you to play it on TV. forget about it means nothing to me what.
you're paying me you know what I'm going. to do I'm going to go out and put it on. my own Ott I'm going to put on my over. the top you want to watch the game you. can only see it on the Phoenix Suns over. the top so holy [ __ ] Cable's like no no. no no no don't do that that's. problematic now a small Market TV is. getting crushed so cable problematic. they got to figure out a solution there. let's go to conservative side on the. conservative side you got daily wire. that they're dealing with with you know. whatever happened between Candace and. Ben which has been a a problem that.
they've been trying to clean up whatever. the reasons are behind it that's you. know the landscape of what they the. decision-making process you kind of saw. a few different things everybody whether. it's from October 7th specifically from. October 7th is a as a place to go. everybody you can tell like if we're. living in LA and we're trying to find. out what gang everybody is in okay those. guys are MS13 these guys are blood. they're crib they're this they're that. you all of a sudden saw okay these guys.
are Israel above all these guys are. conservative above all these guys are. debate above all these guys are. discourse above all this is curiosity. this is built on pure money and profit. and wanting to sell and be a spa and go. on the stock market and sell and I'm a. billionaire no problem but what you did. filter out in the last spec it was. accelerate was like ah boom we learn. about everybody in 6 months yeah from. October 7th it was everybody got exposed.
and now they're trying to backtrack well. no not really well no not really well no. not really and that well no not really. is going to be tough because you have to. maneuver through a lot of the stuff that. you said in the last 67 months and the. Market's going to hold everybody. accountable for what you said those. clips are not going away. right so what so what's their future. look like who specifically daily wire. daily wire what's their future look like. I don't know I I I don't know they. boarded I know they have the the. factoring fracking guys the oil. billionaire guys that based on what I.
hear from people they're Jews for Jesus. and good guys uh you have to sit there. and ask yourself okay if you make this. decision the way you did no problem. we'll support your decision is there a. board in Daily wire I don't know do. Jeremy boring and Ben Shapiro have a. board to process when they're making a. big decision maybe maybe not if they do. board is held accountable was it a good. decision or was it not if they don't. then the money people have to say well.
you give a lot of you know freedom to. these guys to make the decision so then. the money people are going to go out. there to want to raise more money and. who can you now go to raise money uh you. can definitely go to every single. billionaire that's Jewish and say hey. look what we did you should be proud of. us here's a position we took no problem. we'll give you $200 million and there's. a lot of money there that money is not. going away and that money's all over the. place so if somebody is pro-israel and. there's a lot of money there that's an. unlimited access to money so I don't. think that's going to go away people.
like oh my God daily wire is going to go. no they're not they got money and. there's plenty of people that are going. to back them up then you have to see who. backs them up what media organizations. behind closed doors what institutions. organizations will go after anybody that. says anything bad about them in what way. defamation digging up stories articles. is that what they're going to do who. knows character assassination nobody. knows that's speculative to see what. they're going to be doing so so it. sounds like you're saying that October. 7th split the.
right in a big way in a big way in a big. way in a big way massive way and like. imagine what Lincoln project did to. 2020 where you know we had all these. guys on it and the reports came out this. guy's pedophile that guy a complete mess. when we you know when we had this. conversation one of the most Fest one we. had Schmidt and Vinnie went at it it was. viral all over the place you had Steve. Schmidt on oh yeah yeah we've had a lot.
of weird people on we've had he's really. I know him well I've known him for 25. years literally 25 almost 30 he's uh. really a damaged character whoa um but. not stupid yeah definitely not stupid uh. but damaged makes sense because you feel. his rage like he's really got some I. don't know if it's anger issues or true. hatred for certain people so now imagine. Lincoln project now you got multiple of. them that's going through it yeah and by.
the way part of the STIs Trump was also. not a a good thing I think we'll recover. from that no problem I think the Santa. is making the Right Moves right now. getting closer to Trump building that. relationship I'm here to support you I. think that's the right move for him to. make I wish he would have done it. earlier but never too late for him to. take that route but uh I think why. didn't he get the. nomination for for VP or for for what. for for president I think he ran for the. Republican nomination I listen I I think. there was a is that a dumb question I no. listen I said this to me he's not a.
alpha to be a one he's a flag carrier. yep and and sometimes flag carriers that. like he needs to go read the book 48. Laws of Power I don't know if you read. the book 48 Laws of Power he needs to go. read 48 Laws of Power by himself don't. tell anybody about it if he sees this. okay he needs to go read 40 Laws of. Power and realize the number one mistake. the santis mate is law number one it's. all he needs to do it's all I'm going to. say what's law number one law number one.
is never outshine your master and that's. what he did you don't ever do that okay. and in this case Master is a bad word to. use but you can replace masters with the. guy that helped you become a governor. yeah you never outshine that guy that is. the kiss of death when you do that you. cannot do that because that person. forever is going to know that secretly. you always want to take him out to have. his throne and once that's out there. that guy cannot in the back of his mind. ever take that away from his brain it's. always going to be here it's going to be.
like oh I know where you're at okay no. problem Oh No but no no I know what you. want I know deep down inside you want my. Throne no problem versus a role he could. have played like a uh uh Godfather what. is it that Robert Deval plays always. butcher ism is Tom hagna what's the. guy's name consiliary to to the boss you. obviously watch many movies from just. seeing all these question not too many. movies like none obviously you're a big. movie guy here but no I I think that's. the part I think once he did that it was.
bad for him but he's 45 he's got plenty. of run rate he just needs to be a. phenomenal flag carrier and if but can a. flag carrier ever Ascend to the alpha. position for sure Biden was a flag. carrier yeah for sure George bu Senor is. a flag carrier uh Nixon was a flag. carrier you know there there's uh uh the. model of flag here is actually very easy. to be a president ulys srant was a flag. carrier right and then boom he became. two-term not necessarily the best. president but they did become a. president so if he's solving for being a.
president you can do it but you got to. be a great flag carrier uh most of the. time flag carriers are not the best. communicators most of the time flag. carriers are not the best to get up. there and do what they do they need. somebody to edify them so if you're not. the best orator speaker uh you're a very. good day-to-day getting policies and. stuff done which he can do he's a very. smart guy you need a big orator with a. big mic to defend you and back you up he. lost that mic and he's got to figure out. he would have gained that mic back for. 2028 fascinating I I I think correct.
yeah I want to go back to something you. said a second ago you said that um in. fact you even looked at me like it was a. dumb question which it probably was. October 7th was a pivot point in. conservative media and it divided it um. how and why and is it. permanent ah man I mean listen anybody. that's a big Talent it deep down inside. there's probably some ego some a lot of. ego like I'm better than you ego I'm.
smarter than that guy and you know it's. it's tough to admit to a mistake while. you're going through it some of these. guys made massive mistakes right now the. problem like. what the position you take with Candice. that's a problematic position now to. give him credit he came out and said uh. you know daily wire is not a platform. we're a publisher as a publisher we. can't let go of anybody body you're. right yeah totally fine you can do that. for sure and then the argument is well. you know we had Dave ruin on and and.
Ruben says well you know you don't know. the whole story and you know what's. going on there and she had said. something and da d d okay yeah she. questions certain questions now you may. say we're not comfortable with this no. problem um but your position when you. know you knock off you you go after you. know Candace talking about Christ as. king and then you're playing the games. and then if the story comes out the fact. that they use Candace asking Ben for a. debate as a form of getting the gag.
order if that story comes out let's just. say that story is true I think Glenn. Greenwall reported on it if that is true. if it's not true well then Glen. Greenwall has got to go through it and. say what he's got to say but if that. story is true that they use the tweet. from Candace to almost lower in and then. call the lawyers to if that story ever. comes out in the next year two years. three years if that comes out that's uh. that's very problematic because Talent. is going to have to feel comfortable. going somewhere great talent is going to.
uh uh great talent is going to have to. go somewhere that they feel safe they. feel protected ad Dana White is a great. case study for this Conor McGregor ad. Diva loud problematic sometimes. chaotic Dana knows how to work with them. okay Phil Jackson nobody wanted Dennis. Rodman Phil knows how to work with. Dennis Rodman come here we'll win he. goes to the Lakers come here we'll win. they did right and before Chuck uh Dy. who was a coach of the Pistons you know.
Draymond Green Steve Kirk can handle him. right sometimes Talent if you look at. how they are there needs to be somebody. that knows how to work with them as well. you have to show as a publisher as a. media company that you know how to get. talent build them up and also you know. how to behind closed doors to massage. and work with them while they're going. through their CH changes as a talent if. you don't know how to manage ego and. manage Divas. uh you're eventually going to you lose. your best talent who elsewhere that. knows how to do that and number two the.
Divas are always going to be scared of. someone like you because that's the one. thing they don't want they don't want to. go to a place to be like hey here's what. I need you to do and then what. eventually ends up happening is the. following. eventually look at Fox's reputation you. got Bill O'Reilly you got Beck you got. Megan you got you okay what do all four. of you guys have in common I know them. all of course you do you guys R all. number one you. guys crushed it on cable TV for God.
knows how many years and you guys all. had a ugly fallen out at the end fox has. to rebuild that reputation if they want. to attract Talent like that if not what. they're going to end up catching. themselves doing is especially at a time. where more people are realizing I don't. need you this is very problematic like. it's not like the Leverage is on them. they can the way the way some of these. media companies are acting today they. could have gotten away with that 20. years ago you can't. today because Talent has a choice they.
didn't have a choice 20 years ago where. am I going to go 20 years ago think. about it 20 years ago if I'm working for. CNN or MSNBC and I got a show and Rachel. mattow and whatever Brian stelter and. you know all the guys that you and all. of a sudden they go super left and. you're in between the madow show boom. you know what I just don't think they. have a place for me this guys's done. wait that actually happened to me I know. that's what I'm saying that's what I'm. reading and so I was like that sounds so. familiar well you know and then John. Stewart you know well let me tell you. you just got to stop by the way that. would be a very good interesting uh uh.
podcast if you ever do with John Stewart. I don't know um yeah it would I mean I. it would be interesting I want to be a. good sport about it I think the world. would watch. it yeah I mean the world would watch all. kinds of ugly things I but I just try to. think I have such contempt for him I. guess maybe that would make it hard I. like interviewing people I disagree with. Chris cromo I interviewed and you know I. totally disagree with Chris cromo and so. much and I made fun of him so much I've. been really mean to him but I I don't.
have contempt for Chris cromo at all. actually uh but John Stewart I have. total contempt for him I don't I think. he's like I just I don't have no respect. at all and I never have and that hasn't. changed in the 20 years since I last saw. him so it's it's hard to interview have. you ever interviewed someone you have no. respect for at all of course it's hard. of course it is I don't like it it's not. easy I like I don't give a [ __ ] what you. say I mean you're pathetic yeah it's not. even your real name like everything. about you is fake you're just fake and.
you're kind of a dumb person posing as a. smart person like everything about it. barf so I don't know if I can do that no. I listen I I understand and I can only. imagine because I'm the viewer I'm not. even you to know what you know what the. real context is when I interviewed the. creepy porn lawyer Michael avanatti. there what I mean he's a very menacing. person and you know not a great person. obviously and I totally disagree with. him on the other hand he had kind of an. an energy that I didn't disrespect I. mean he's just like a very energetic guy.
right right but John Stewart's like a. like freaking NPR listener who takes it. seriously he's just like I'm just so. over that it's so mediocre you know what. would be interesting about it because. from the scene of him coming in trying. to bully you guys to where you are today. you won that's the point well I thought. I won. then just shows I'm a little out of it I. um but but you may have won. oh I lost in the court of public opinion. for sure right that's the part but today.
it's not even a conversation yeah so you. were talking about the media business. and I had asked you you said October 7th. really split conservative media yes it. did permanently no not at all no people. going to have their certain people yes. but for the most part you know uh look. at Marco Rubio oh he's considered a vice. presidential potential what after what. happened happen hands yeah and people. move on people you know this is a very. media politics sport you talk [ __ ] you.
get pissed cannot believe it clickish. all this stuff and then eventually. somebody typically behind closed door. says what matters more your ego or. America while can I have both not all. the time okay then America you going to. raise your kids here yes all right let's. figure this thing out and we move on. right I well I agree with that. completely I'm shed by people who I once. hated so yes I strong feel that way. really really strongly Chris Cuomo. though who I've already said I like and. I mean it and I think is talented um is. having trouble from my read re-entering.
the convers people are still mad at. Chris cromo about Co that's my is that. your take on it oh absolutely and by the. way even more now by the way more now I. think it's more now and here's why it's. more now because at least four years ago. one side loved him and the other side. hated him four years ago now both sides. hate him you may say why very simple so.
he was there to the left to the. establishment he was a hero yes you. should take the vaccine what is all this. horse you know Ivor meing stuff what's. this all. about you're being irresponsible Byron. Donald yes what a great citizen Cuomo is. Right face of CNN big farmon all these. guys we like what he's doing right and. the Writ is like why are you making me. take it I don't want to take it let it. be my choice now you mean to tell me.
you're going from that position to on. the podcast saying I'm taking Ivor. mechon now and yeah I guess Joe Rogan. was right you're saying that now and I'm. VX injured and I'm not only VX injured. and then when I ask him if covid comes. back in. 2026 and they're forcing everybody to. take the vaccine would you take it he. says absolutely not so you wouldn't take. it I wouldn't take it okay. so obviously when he says that you have. to keep in mind.
that how is fouchy feel about that. probably not good how is people from CDC. the doctors how do they feel about it. probably not good how about some of the. people from his side that were all on a. show and he was taking care of him. defending him they can't stand him right. now because what he's doing is he's. bringing back something that's been. under the rug and almost dis. appeared cuz everybody's now talking. about what immigration everybody's. talking about all these other issues.
immigration you know election 2024 yeah. what happen what what about the gain of. function yeah but forget about it but. let's focus on all this stuff what about. what China let's talk about October 7th. exactly so I think what he's doing is a. massive risk but wait a sec it doesn't. okay so what you're saying makes sense. on one side clearly his former allies. are mad they feel betrayed he's exposing. the lies MH but does doesn't that give. him new allies I mean I'm having dinner. tonight for example with Glenn Greenwald. who I love and consider a friend of mine.
sure and Glenn Greenwall must have. written 50 pieces attacking me 20 years. ago right but then we aligned on a. couple of big issues real issues and I'm. like I'm happy to be friends with with. Glenn Greenwald I've changed my views on. a lot of issues I believe in Repentance. I think change is essential as the facts. change so your conclusions like this is. all good and so normally the once was. lost now I'm found. find a new home but he doesn't seem to. have found a new home no because he. hasn't uh uh repented and ask for.
forgiveness and that's not easy to do so. it's so easy to do it's the easiest. thing there is I [ __ ] up I'm sorry. like that's the most simple liberating. act in life yeah but let me ask your. question so here's a question for you. you're married right your family you. have your kids you know you you got your. thing you got your community imagine all. of a sudden you get so close to fouchy.
and you're all of a sudden hanging out. with Rachel mat you guys are best. friends and you're hanging out with all. these guys on the left and suddenly you. sit there and say no the right was wrong. everybody should take the vaccine. everybody should go through it okay so. imagine you take a position like that. suddenly how's your wife feel about it. it how's your family feel about it how. do your lineage of what you've done your.
history where you come from how do they. feel about it all the all the Rel so me. you're you you have to sleep next to. your wife now you know so for Chris as. he's going through this process and. you're talking to the guy off camera my. kids absolutely love this guy when he. comes in he wrestles does Jiu-Jitsu with. my kids they're doing this they're doing. that off camera we have the most fous. arguments Hour 2 Hour 3 hour just.
absolute like bom bom bom and then hey. okay man I'll talk to you next week done. right. and a part of me I'm not speaking on his. behalf this is something he needs to. make a decision for himself is when I go. through it and I process it he he gives. me zero Vibes of somebody's on the left. zero Chris Cuomo no he's not he's not. some not even a little bit let me. explain what I it's almost like being. around someone who like is not in touch. with himself and he he doesn't know what. everyone else knows about him and Chris.
CUO you look at Chris was like you are. no sense a liberal temperamentally at. all no he's not he's not a liberal now. he may be a center left guy okay fine he. may be a center maybe a center right guy. economically right vaccine not for it. now doesn't like what happened with it. you know when he thinks about certain. things with milit there's so many things. that you can go on but the guys you know. he has risen you know who's the only. person that texts me when it's Easter or. any of these first guy that text me it's. him so spiritually what he's going.
through all these are all stuff that you. look at like okay maybe he's going. through it maybe he's going through what. he's doing right now but for him to come. out he's afraid of the feminists that's. part of it I can feel that I said that. to him right to him he's afraid you if. you care what the feminist think and. obviously you shouldn't because it's so. degrading to care what they think but. then you have to mouth certain lies and. you're like required because you're. afraid of the screeching yeah. but they don't respect you more for. repeating their lies they actually see. you as a [ __ ] when you do that they. want you to be strong they're feminist.
in the first place because they haven't. been around men who are just honest and. direct and strong so you cannot be. afraid of them and I really get the. feeling like he he can't say certain. things because he's afraid of the I put. something above that though I put his. last name and his family above yeah well. I get that though I have total sympy. that's number one his father his brother. I put that as number one and I feel like. if he comes out and fully flips he gets. that and the other part for me is a well. can I say I respect that I do that's. that's the one thing you're not being a. [ __ ] for respecting your father's.
Legacy or remaining close to your. brother like you should do that so I I. feel for him right and then there. there's the other part of you know the. school of thought of when you apologize. they will forever come after you you. should be careful to apologize never. apologize there's that Community as well. who are those people that's the dumbest. thing I've ever heard whoever's in your. ear whoever never apologize you look. like a fool if you don't apologize if. they do they will come after you for the. rest of your life no you should. apologize only when you mean it that's. the rule don't lie so of course you.
never a you know if you get caught up in. some fake me too thing and you're like I. should have been more sensitive to. unhappy 39y old unmarried women no what. mistakes did you make that you apologize. on oh my God me give three of them uh. well being drunk a lot you know I'm. sorry um and I mean that supporting the. Iraq War working for Bill Crystal being. used to attack Papu Canan basically. being used butc when I was younger as a. writer because I was just not aware of.
the larger crosscurrents and I didn't. follow my own instincts I followed. orders you know those are the marks of a. weak man and I and I was and I'm. embarrassed of that and I Would by the. way I apologize all the time if as long. as it's sincere yeah then you win lying. makes you weak telling the truth makes. you strong it's super simple you know. what's crazy check this out so one day. where this is when all my content was on. entrepreneurship and we were running the. top channel on YouTube for. entrepreneurship if you would have typed.
an entrepreneur 50 V 50 videos pulls up. on the search half of them were ours we. just own the word entrepreneur okay and. that led into the Consulting from bid. Consulting you go to bid.com or man all. that stuff that's the entrepreneur side. we would look at what words in the. titles would do best words okay so let's. go through a couple of them rules very. good word for YouTube 20 rules of. whatever 10 rules of whatever so rules.
for whatever reason great word for. YouTube people want to get rules 12. rules for life Jordan Peterson 20 rules. for money 7 million views on YouTube. that I did 10 years ago and people want. to learn the rules of money basic video. it's nothing crazy about it 20 rules for. money okay another word and I'm kind of. going through this thing as an Entre r. preneur as a whatever so you know uh. seven keys to success as a parent as an.
entrepreneur as a journalist as a doctor. as a student a as a whatever at the end. of the title okay so that end of the. title triggers back as a student I'm a. student boom that audience it's an. evergreen title people keep coming back. and watching it right these are words. you know what's one of the most powerful. words uh that we would put on titles. absolutely crush it. mistakes yeah 10 mistakes I made okay so. now running an insurance company anytime.
you and I would go up and we would only. talk about the things we did right one. of the worst speeches you give of course. nobody feels they can do it so what I. would do is sometimes I would get my. best guys and some guys that have gone. through some stuff and let's just say. their ego is not allowing it and I'm. picking the topics for my guys and all. our guys already know what this is all. about I would say hey uh you have 20. minutes at MGM Grand Arina I want you to. talk about uh the 10 biggest mistakes. you made in your. career and they knew they would give me.
the smirk oh [ __ ] I'm going through it. right so then we'd go to the event and. then there's ways you spin mistakes. while the mistakes I made is trusting. people too much and it's always likeing. too much I don't know if you care like. too good a person the mistake is always. on the other person like you know. Diddy's apology hey I I I I I never. mentioned Cassie never did. but but I think it's disgusting to watch. that it's disgusting to watch that but.
one of the most attractive qualities of. a human. being there's a lot of qualities you. look at like I just don't like that guy. man I want to like you I can't like you. you're annoying one of the most. attractive qualities of a human being is. self-deprecation of course when you can. sit there and self-deprecate laugh at. yourself make fun of yourself the. audience is like can't but why is that. so appealing think it through because. none of us walk on water we all make. mistakes we're all it telegraphs. strength yeah that's what strong people. do who refuses to apologize who refuses.
to admit fault who refuses to be admit. Being Human making a mistake people who. are so fragile they can't admit it weak. people hide their weaknesses strong. people are happy to admit them because. they're transparent they've got nothing. to hide that's a sign of strength it's. the shest sign of strength in fact it's. the only sign of strength so not. apologizing. diminishes you dramatically you're. fearful that's why you can't apologize. right yeah but he's got to you know.
again and I'm not talking about Chris. specifically who I again I really like. and and I will say just to just to be. very clear again if he can't. fully apologize for things he said that. were demonstrably wrong because he. doesn't want to dishonor the memory of. his father right or alienate his brother. I respect that I do yeah it's worth. wrecking your career to remain loyal to. your family you you you know you know.
what I learn I we're on the same page. there here's what I learned. whoever you speak to the last three. people you speak to before you go to. sleep have the most influence over you. the last three people you speak to. before you go to sleep what if it's a. dog well that's good influence then. because very good listen one of mine is. one of mind is a is a very intimidating. massive uh I don't know if you're into. big dogs I have a 15b shsu extremely. intimidating but uh this guy loves me. and he makes me feel very confident by. the way what matters he believes in me.
and and that's where I get myself no. matter how embarrassing the dog as long. as he loves amazing to me he's been my. number one therapist for 15 years but so. you know when you look at the last three. people you speak to I can't take. inventory of that but who you talking. what do you think what do you think. sometimes you want to go through. somebody and ask what do you think maybe. it's your wife maybe it's your brother. maybe it's a former Mentor maybe it's a. father Maybe Who whoever your what do. you think Community is is the reason why. you're making the decision the way that. you are that's for sure the better to.
what do you think Community you have the. better way you handle conflicts I don't. know the what do you think Community is. for. Chris that's a really smart Point what's. your relationship with him now you're in. a business relationship right there uh. uh we're doing a debate next um Dave. Smith called him out and I know you're a. Dave guy I like Dave a lot Dave's a. talent I love Dave yeah Dave's a uh I. think he's a he's a star that can be a. superstar in the right environment that. guy has what it takes to really strive. um anybody that gets a chance to sign.
him they should and if he kind of signs. with somebody long-term five years he. finds a way should he be a comedian or a. political. commentator I I I think he cares about. policies more than comedy I think uh um. you know he likes comedy I think that's. his creative side but he has a serious. side that he needs to find a way to tap. into it I don't know what his vision is. he knows what he wants to do with his. life but Dave and Chris will be having a. Friday night debate at our Comedy Club.
Cigar Lounge in for laudo May 31st 6: to. 9 p.m. live audience who's going to. win whoever is straight up and doesn't. play. politics it's asymmetrical though. because Chris has um and I like him both. but first of all Dave is a formidable. debate opponent fantastic yeah fantastic. real and very smart as a debater I can. say that guy is good and but second Dave. can say whatever he wants you know he's.
not you know what I mean he's already. made his break with that's right you. know family members who disagree with. him or whatever but he's totally. unencumbered and Chris is from a very. famous family brother and dad who are. governor of the state of New York it's. like it's hard I can tell you every. day I visualize people calling him. telling him not to do it every single. day every day someone s them don't do. the podcast in their own creative way. and I said this when I announced it okay.
so when it happens the side of the. establishment that doesn't want all this. the CDC guy comes out and you saw what. he said here did you guys do any kind of. gain on function you know uh uh Rand. Paul is asking uh uh uh fouchy 2021 no. we didn't do any there was no such thing. of G and then they asked the new guy the. CDC guy that I don't know if you saw. this or not this was is there any such a. well in the general you know way of.
looking at this yes there was gain of. function no no it's not general or not. was there or was there not yes there you. think that Community wants more eyeballs. going to this no so why is no one in. prison I mean if you're doing gain of. function research in other words if. you're trying to make dangerous viruses. more infectious and more dangerous in a. world with a demonstrated history of lab. leaks you know thank you Lyme disease. and and all the rest that we know covid. have come from Labs like you're you're.
gambling with the lives of millions of. people like why should you be allowed to. do that they're trying to put Trump in. prison for the rest of his life on a. documents charge you brought home. documents that are technically. classified but the guys doing gain of. [ __ ] function research are walking. free like what how bad do you want to. know to investigate those people. investigate I mean I think we know oh. but but but the point is to hold them. accountable to it right how bad well. it's just absolutely crazy we're mad at. you know guys with nose rings protesting. outside Columbia I mean whatever I'm not. on their side but like who cares.
actually but but the point the reason. why I'm asking you the question is the. point why I'm asking you this question. is in order for that to happen if the. establishment from the left or the right. is in office you will never find out. ever find out this is why we need more. guys from the anti-establishment side to. say I'm really curious to the point. where I'm going to go in there and find. well how would you assess pby Kennedy. what's. I think Bobby. Kennedy is a form of anti-establishment.
and if I'm able to give people a score. of Reason okay and a True Believer so. meaning can this guy truly reason so you. got family pride and stuff that's you. know part of your legacy and he's got. what the most powerful last name on the. left I think that's way ahead of cuos. it's Kennedy there is no level of. Kennedy right okay cream of the crop at. that level so what's score for being. able to reason I think it's pretty high. I give him a high score for reasoning uh. on the the the podcast that we did.
together was like a a town hall people. are asking questions I ask him I said so. what do you stand with you know puberty. blockers and transgender and all this. stuff honestly I haven't done enough. research to uh be for or against I said. I said Bobby you can't say. that because it's not true and but by. the way you know what he said though if. you posted the video which went viral. this two weeks ago people were sharing. it all over the place on Twitter on the. bottom he said he changed his position. on this four months ago and no longer. supports it great guess what that's a.
form of progress reason you're making. that you could say I was wrong here's. where I stand with this now okay all. right no problem vaccine I'm sure you. read the fouchy book he wrote an an. absolute Masterpiece of a book he writes. okay so he's got the co. Community the vaccine community that. didn't want to be forced to take it who. doesn't who don't like fouchy he's got. that side um I put him as an. anti-establishment but I still think. he's got a lot of stuff that's on the. left as a Democrat even though he's an.
independent but I think he's a necessary. voice I do think he's going to get in. the way though of trump so the Trump. people I I was talking to someone in his. orbit several months ago and my instinct. was exactly what you just said if you're. against the status. quo you know you're by definition not. voting for Joe Biden so Kennedy takes in. other words there's nobody who's. choosing between Joe Biden and Bobby. Kennedy it's just that person doesn't. exist and so by definition it's going to. take from Trump and the response that.
guy was oh he was really liberal on this. that and the other thing or Israel. liberal and okay but big picture it. seemed obvious to me he was going to. hurt Trump there's no question about it. right there's no question so so the part. which is kind of weird is when Biden's. Camp doesn't want to give him protection. doesn't want to put him on the stage I. again this goes back to me wondering. either you have something up your. sleeves or you really think you have. such an October surprise that you're.
going to leak to the world that Bobby's. GNA step out like the way they did with. Herman Kane nah n n oh uh I'm GNA have. to pause my campaign so maybe there is. something that you and I don't know. about what's going to come out the guy's. been on for a long time 69 70 year old. guy Family Girls good-look accolades. background what are they hanging on to. that they're not leaking yet I don't. know so why are they not afraid of a guy. and why are they these are all things. that I wonder on what the left has the. establishment has that they know they're.
going to they're just dumb they're. dumber than we think I think they're. more deceptive than you think well. they're definitely more deceptive I I. think they're very maybe they believe. their own [ __ ] I mean that you know. the Peril of huffing your own fumes like. convincing yourself that KLA Harris is. like impressive or something or that. Biden's not seen now like I think people. are capable of you think that's what it. is though or you think it's more like. it's an easier person to control I mean. if you look at people who raise money. right if you go do a case case study of. people that ran for PR who are our top. four non-establishment candidates of the.
last 70 years okay. Kennedy uh partially Reagan Trump and. then who else you got that's not an. establishment last six years okay Ros. Pro that's right Ros Pro got to what 19. points uh Reagan I think 99.6% of the. funding for him running for office was. his own money I think it was that number. Hillary Clinton 100% donor funded uh. Biden pretty much 100% uh uh johnf. Kennedy's Father Joseph I think put 40.
or 50% of it Trump we know how much of. it was hurt is his in 2016 Obama needed. other people's everybody needed other. people's money so whoever that needs. other people's money is controlled by. the other people which is the ideal. candidate so Kamala for for them is like. that is the ideal person for them cuz. they can control and say hey check mark. for the your life your Wikipedia is. going to say Vice President. congratulations to you Legacy cemented. we'll make a documentary for you give.
you Metal of Honor you're good to go. amazing go make some documentaries and. go to you know whatever the shows are on. and you're going to be famous good for. you right that's gone uh but to me a. part of it you know when they're looking. at Cala or Biden that's their favorite. types of candidates they don't like rfks. are you kidding but she's not I mean I. think it's fair to say she's not. electable on her own no she's not. so if you had to get her out of the way. Biden obviously incapacitated by mental. decline kamla repugnant as a person what.
how do you fix that for this or 2028 for. for what there's there's only one person. he can do with only one person who it's. only Michelle there's nobody else he can. do it let's play it out okay let's play. it out you don't think she's more. disgusting no to the left she is the. number one uh person on the leaders. bulletin she's the number one draft pick. for the left Maybe ahead of Nome. Michelle but let me again my opinion I. could be wrong I'm just giving you my. POV on this so okay so let's play uh you.
get rid of uh uh you get rid of uh um. Kamala and you put in Nome which they. would love to have Nome as a VP and then. you transition I well Biden's going to. be stepping down June of 2025 nome's now. the president what an easy way of. getting Newsome elected the easiest way. of getting Nome elected is bring him in. but okay you announce camalo is stepping. down great what ammunition do you give. to the greatest troll of all time on the. other side to call you racist it's done. what's Trump going to do if you get rid.
of Kamala and put Nome in look what they. did all they talk about is female power. and blacks and all this stuff they put. her back on the bus and they replace her. with Nome shame on the Democrats they're. the most racist I mean don't you can't. you already see it easy Playbook form. right so but if they bring in instead of. Kamala uh Kamala comes in. and there's not enough time for a. Supreme Court Justice type of a position. but say Kamala comes in behind closed.
doors say. Kamala you come out and you say. something's going on with the family. something happen I don't think she has a. family does she cancer scare whatever. some's going on cancer scare is the. easiest one okay cuz cancer everyone's. going like oh my God you know and hey. God willing we were able to avoid a. chemotherapy and she didn't have to go. through it and this is so thank you for. all your prayers that none of this stuff. happened and and you know they came to. me and we were talking and as a. collective I think Nome is the most.
qualify that's going to be problematic. but if you bring Michelle in that's easy. it's a very easy fit to bring her in the. question that becomes does Michelle want. to be a VP is her ego a VP person does. she want to come out of life can. I intercede for one second so she's. never had a real job in her life she's. who sorry this is Michelle or yeah. Michelle okay um she's like has nothing. in common with any. American um she's nasty she's a hater.
clearly. she's utterly ungrateful for every. special Advantage he's been given her. entirely she went to Princeton on a free. ride and she's mad at Princeton really I. mean everything about her is like. mediocre mean. dumb and not a single achievement in her. entire life other than marrying this guy. in a fake marriage so like what grounds. could that person run the country don't. don't be naive Tucker you're talking. about wom being super naive are you. kidding me do you know which one of.
these political figures sold 36 million. copies of her book one person her book. about what it doesn't matter more. whining from a rich lady 36 million. people bought her book bro that do you. realize like the amount of influence. this this let's let's just pause and. consider that decision you're walking. through Barnes & Noble or Walmart and. you see Michelle Obama's book for sale. yep what causes you to buy something. like that you're talking from your.
perspective or any person like this is a. book that she not only didn't write but. probably hasn't. read like why would you buy something. and then you have Michelle Obama's name. like in your house yeah like what signal. are you sending like what could possibly. compel you to do something like that. yeah you can say all that you want no. but it's true like what is that but that. that's not the point though the point is. she is a rockar for the left she is a. rock star for the left she'll be edified. and glorified by.
everybody they love anything that's ugly. and and bad and mediocre don't they. people have different tastes man no but. that's not even a taste it's like look. you could say of Al Sharpton who I you. know vehemently disagree with but there. you know like Al Sharpton's a. self-created person actually and Al. Sharpton's pretty smart and Al Sharon's. got a lot of things about Al Sharpton. that are bad for sure but at least Al. Sharpton's like kind of lived a life mhm. Michelle Obama same with Trump maybe you. hate Trump okay you think he's vulgar. you think but you know he's like a.
self-created guy number one TV show in. the country like Michelle Obama has. literally done nothing except whine. about the white man for 60 years like. what that's not a qualification you're. you're making you're assuming that doing. anything is a qualification to run on. the left I know but I'm just saying like. they zero in on the most repulsive. images and people it's like they're. they're kind of an x-ray sort of a. reverse image of everything that's. beautiful and dignified and virtuous if.
she runs you have no idea how formidable. she would be but it's like the uglier. something is the more they love it well. maybe that is again maybe physically and. spiritually let me ask you a question. who who is more formidable her or Joe. Biden I mean I I I probably Michelle I. would think so then then the other. question becomes for you as it's Al but. then you wonder is there like a bottom. to white guilt cuz Michelle Obama's fake. husband got him elected cuz white white. people got him elected that wasn't black.
people didn't do that yeah is that kind. of played out like you're electing we're. going to say that a woman who lives in. Hawaii compounds in Hawaii and Martha's. Vineyard is somehow like it's a victory. for civil rights or something like what. what would be the rationale like are we. at the end of that cycle where people. have to vote for someone like that so. try to Devil's Advocate okay let's play. Devil's Advocate you're on the left yeah. okay who are your top five candidates. most qualified that you can help as the. establishment you get everybody behind.
this person who's your top five Draft. pick on the left to be a president a. Jimmy. door that would never happen on the left. are you kidding like the actual left I'd. vote for Jimmy door Jimmy door's a stud. he's phenomenal what he does honest man. to think about you're them you are them. you're in the room with them who's their. top five I mean I guess I would I I I. don't know who's like mentally [ __ ]. and transgender I guess that's that's. sort you know but I'm serious like. that's how they think like what's the.
most repulsive thing we can do what's. what's the opposite of the what's the. farthest from the actual truth who's the. least competent you know what's the. ugliest building we can build what's the. most putrid painting we can create and. call it art you wouldn't say Nome number. one Michelle two you wouldn't go to some. of those you wouldn't go M you know. Gretchen you wouldn't put that as a top. five that's their profile of candidates. that's the people are jokes I mean it's. not about being a joke it's about who. they can control and get the job done. through them so so so but what's the job.
well are you kidding me establish. certain controls that nobody can touch. just steal [ __ ] just steal [ __ ] that's. basically what it is like let the. stealing proceed well I mean without. getting caught and you create the law I. mean if you create the law you're. protecting yourself I mean that's I've. noticed yeah so are by the way are you. following closely what's going on with. Iran with r did you well I mean to the. extent you can know yeah I mean I've. certainly follow it are you are you. seeing like a uh just another just. another aircraft crash just kind of.
tragic accident it happens all the time. to presidents of the different counts. what do you think it is what do you. think it is behind I have some thoughts. but what do you think it is I mean it's. you know it's either um an internal. power struggle um we talked about this. last night and um within Iran or. it's the us or Israel or a combination. of of those two Ian those are the. obvious suspects I don't I don't know. the answer so do you know who much tapa. K is sort of yeah we talked about last. night so he's a second oldest son of the.
supreme leader do you know what his net. worth is his the just the son's netw. worth hundreds of millions I would think. $3 billion billion type it in you'll see. it it's $3 billion now this is reports. that are coming in what he's wor now how. has he wor $3 billion because he started. Twitter well because he's of course he's. just an energetic Innovative man. unbelievable entrepreneur very innov. created the Facebook of Iran right but. so this guy is in the running to be the.
next supreme leader of Iran there's two. candidates there is ibraim RI and there. is K's son now K's family has been. estimated to have a net worth of roughly. $200 billion K's family how they. accumulated that who knows some of the. most Innovative people in the world. apparently to get to $200 billion. innovatively stealing money from. taxpayers innovatively getting money. from different places but regardless. it's Innovative on what they've done.
right why would this family ultimate. nepotism why would they want RI to. become the Supreme fair fair so you have. to give a little bit of credibility. because in the past rafan johani which. we kind of talked about last night rafan. johnni was a guy that died at 82 years. old as the president and well he died. from a heart attack that's not what his. family believes on what happened to him. so there is it's very easy for us right. off the bat to say oh it's Israel oh.
it's us oh you know what if us wouldn't. have put the sanctions on us we would. had better helicopters where this. wouldn't happen whatever city was in tab. you so but but Iran going through that. with some of their power plays they're. going to be going through today with K. it's going to be interesting to see I. mean assassinating what you know a. sovereign state assassinating the leader. of another sovereign state not a good. precedent to set not a good idea almost. no matter who it is we didn't try to we. didn't assassinate Hitler we didn't. assassinate Stalin we didn't assassinate. Ma I mean there's there's a reason that.
you probably don't want to get into the. assassinations game because you don't. know where it's going to wind up and. it's uh it's Reckless super Reckless. Behavior so I like to believe I want to. believe what you just said that does. sound like a absolute possibility and. but I don't want to believe that states. are knocking off one another's. leaders because you know again you don't. know where that winds up maybe maybe. there should be a kind of informal. agreement not to assassinate each other.
oh and and yeah for sure and not to do. it internally but again you go back and. play a totally different game this this. could be a game of ambition of who wants. to control the Iran's the resources for. many many years to come and this the. this guy was only 63 years old oh yeah. RI when he passed away this is not a six. other guys too right so uh does the US. wind up in a war with Iran it's looking. like it it does look like it it's. looking like it that we're about to go. there what do you think of that um I'm.
not as worried about it with. Iran uh uh for a couple different. reasons Iran now here's the thing I'll. give you both uh uh uh sides of it the. part that I'm not worried about it. Iran's always been when when Trump took. out gasam. solmani uh who was the number two guy at. the time this is the guy that was. leading pretty much all the proxy war. proxy war and all the proxy military. Hezbollah HTI this is a very very legit. Power Player solmani so you take him out. and you say I took him out I did it my.
name is Trump I took him out in your. face right there's no way we're gonna. let Trump and America get away with it. watch what we're going to be doing they. intentionally you know threw some. missiles in an area where there was no. soldiers so nothing happened but then. they're like look at us we showed. strength no you really didn't now what's. changed from solman till today a lot a. lot World 25 year $400 billion contract. from Us's number one you know enemy.
called China I it's during the same time. Russia had an okay relationship with us. now we are in a proxy war with Russia. through Ukraine that were funding left. and right War I mean they're US military. personnel fighting Russia from Ukraine. well I you know I I want to be more. diplom diplomatic it's so I don't think. the average person understands just how. crazy this has gotten on how deep we are. there right okay so so then Russia is.
going to side with who with us or Iran. their neighbor Caspian Sea that's who. are they going to side with so so this. the part where you're kind of like you. know so so Iran is no longer Iran Iran. is essentially one of the eyes in bricks. exactly okay India Iran so yeah I don't. know so so going up going. remember the story I told you about so. then it escalates from regional conflict. to World War conceivably very fast I. think we're already in World War just. like nobody wants to say it we were.
already in a recession a year and a half. how unnecessary is all this how insane. is all this how does this help my family. my country doesn't help your family your. country but you have to go back to who. the customer is in order for the. military contractors to make money they. need Wars in order for many of these. other business models to make money they. need crisis in order for a Vanguard or a. black rock to get a $400 billion I think. it's Vanguard but I do know it's Black.
Rock to get a $400 billion contract to. rebuild Ukraine you need Ukraine to be. destroyed to rebuild it if Ukraine is in. destroyed you don't need to rebuild. these are all great business models for. these folks so but you know how it. ends I mean it ends with a destruction. of everything that's worth having. actually only if they keep the power. only if they keep the power but they. can't foresee the Future these are not.
people with fine motor skills like they. overstate their own power and foresight. and once you get into something like. this you have no [ __ ] idea where it. ends you have no idea things can go. sideways so fast you can't control. events you think you can you can't. that's true in your family and it's true. geopolitically and so like you know you. think you got it all fine-tuned it's. like some rubbe Goldberg thing and then. this happens that happens and what we're. going to do is we're going to kick. Russia out of Swift and actually that.
will cause internal Revolt within Russia. and they'll depose Putin and it's like. you can't game this stuff out there too. many variables and you could easily wind. up in a nuclear exchange what do you. think their insurance policy is you. think they sit there and wor I have no. idea I hope they have submarines because. I I don't know how like I think they're. actually destroying the country that. they live in that's what I think. and that's why I think it's supernatural. it's psychotic to me it's to do that but. in their minds they're protected in.
their minds they're protected in their. minds nothing but their wealth yeah in. their mind these people are so stupid. money worshippers are so stupid Oh My. wealth will protect me okay yeah how. many people have thought that a lot. Jeffrey Epstein thought that yeah. everybody thinks that that's the LIE of. wealth it's going to protect Diddy's. like oh they're not going to do anything. to me and watch what's going to happen. to Diddy next did you see his a I. haven't been following the did well they. show the video of of of I know you. probably obviously probably listen to a. lot of hip-hop you give me The Vibes of.
it but I do so Diddy yeah I can totally. see it so Diddy uh is uh the video comes. out of him beating Cassi his. ex-girlfriend that within 24 hours they. settle for $30 million and that story. was gone like a year ago or something. like that so finally the video comes out. from. 2016 this video he's hitting her in the. head pulling her hair drag the middle of. the hotel beats women like I I don't. want to be racist or anything but like. you're not supposed to beat women right. yeah well you know Diddy a few years ago.
was commenting on Chris Brown and. Rihanna's controversy on Ellen. degenerous and he says you know let's. just pray for them because we don't know. what they're going through let's pray. for them before we assume what they're. going through let's just pray for them. so maybe that's what he's going through. right now and then they leaked the video. so all these guys that grew up with. single mothers and are really mad at. women sorry yeah have you seen the. numbers of how we went from single. mothers in 1960 to today the. matriarchy leads to wife beating I'm. just telling you that a man with a.
strong father does not beat women for. sure you can't beat women you don't send. them off to fight your Wars you don't. beat them up um you treat them with. respect that's the man who grew up in a. household with a strong father the man. who grew up in a household with a mom. you know loving but also arbitrary and. um flaky that guy hates women he becomes. a womanizer not in a fun way in a bad. way abusive exploits women and then he. beats them up and that is there is a. direct connection you're not going to.
find many wife beaters who grew up with. a strong dad at home but you'll find a. ton who grew up with Mom so that it's. one of the many. ironies uh that we don't acknowledge but. we should acknowledge it if you care. about you know preventing violence. against women encourage two parent. families with like real dads like don't. fight the patriarchy embrace the. patriarchy and you get less wife beating. so you can so so so by the way am am I. right I'm just taking a check with your. wife for sure yeah but so by the way. when you process it that way that goes.
back to me thinking we need to change. incentives because in. 1960 only 4% of kids were born to a. unwed mother like a single mother today. it's. 41% from 4% to 41% that's not Liberation. you don't think oh you kidding me that's. catastrophic yeah that's problematic but. that's what fighting the patriarchy. looks like right beating up women and. mugging them on the street sending them. off to fight your stupid Wars yeah yeah. but listen they're not they're not. selling Family Values they're not.
selling having kids they're not selling. the the value of raising a kid they're. not selling the incentive program is. created to be divorce to stay single to. keep having kids to stay on welfare the. incentive program is created for me to. stay entitled for my my entire life. relying on some kind of a welfare and by. the way you know both you and I have. four kids right we're talking about it. last Sund four kids I got four kids. crazy number wish I had eight but yeah I. wish I had 20 yeah me too we we keep. revisit the polygamy thing yeah well we.
can again new if we have new policies we. can potentially consider that right okay. I tell my wife I we I'd keep her. pregnant she'd have three-month break. every year and we'd be pregnant for 20. years she'd be pregnant for fun but can. you imagine going to dinner yeah we like. to make a reservation for dinner tonight. how big is your party partyio 24 i' love. that I'd love that you sit at the end. the. patriarch every pups lining down other. side you're assuming they don't have. girlfriends and boyfriends so maybe it's. like party of 40 yeah let's just shut. down the restaurant I want to be bin.
tribal. leader hitting the Hubbly Bubbly in my. tent oh sorry check this out watch this. crazy data yeah crazy data you ready so. in. 1960 every year. 4.3 million kids are born in. 1960 every year in. 1960 1.7 million people roughly die. every year 4.3 born 1.7 die it's a net.
positive of 2.6 million yes you're with. me so far 1960 1960 then you murder a. president that's right four years later. so come to today that number number of. kids being born. roughly uh number of PE number of kids. has been more 3.2 3.3 million number of. people dying 2.7 2.8 million we went. from 2.6 million more people being born.
than dying to only. 500,000 more people being born then. dying fertility rate lowest ever in. America. 1.6 uh we have there's this new trend I. don't know if you've considered joining. it or not uh it is little little. rebellious if if you're thinking about. it this community called the lgbtq. community they attract rebellious people. you get to do whatever you want to you. get to cut things off it's actually very. interesting what's happening with it.
it's it's a new hot thing I don't know. if you're following it or sounds like. fun obviously that's going to prevent. from having kids if because if you cut. your dangling off it's hard to have kids. but I'm sure that's not part of the plan. or anything no they would never do such. a thing it's a noble thing so but you. look at this to me there's a lot of. numbers we can look at that's concerning. 2.6 more kids being born million kids. than to 500,000 now and we're having. fewer kids we're not endorsing and. marriage family all the incentive. program is not for. that how much longer until we're sitting. here and these folks are living longer.
and we're not having enough of. replacement how much longer I mean you. saw china hit the one child policy 1.1. you know at the bottom of the list right. now I think it's South Korea at 083. we're at 1.61 well they what I mean the. obvious solution if you're South Korea. or China is just invite Haiti to move in. why aren't they doing that that's the. noble thing to do and there there's a No. it's it's absolutely NE I mean who's. going to who's going to watch over your. elders in long-term memory care yeah. they they need a are you following the. Jimmy story with barbecue the guy named.
barbecue in course in ha yeah yeah. it where do you want to be in 10 years I. think uh I'm not born here so I can't. run for president that's out okay uh I. have certain set of values and. principles that I'm not compromising and. we're going to fight for as long as we. can if God keeps me healthy there's only. one person that can fire me I'm going 40. years will end up having one of the most.
influential biggest consulting firms in. America including worldwide right now we. consult for roughly 5,000 businesses. from 60 countries that we do engagements. for okay so that's B David Consulting. can I ask a dumb question what does that. mean to consult so you come in you're. trying to raise Capital you need help. putting a pitch deck together we can. help you with that yes you're in a place. where your marketing campaign isn't. working you want to help us put a better. create a marketing campaign for you will.
help you with that your comp plan to pay. your. employees you don't know how to set up a. proper variable comp or structure the. equity or profit sharing in your sales. guys you're considering your compass. flat and you need to kind of find a way. to improve it we'll help you with that. you want to expand into a different. Market Place we'll help you with that. you want to find a seite executive and. you don't know what's the right way to. interview and what qualities to look for. or what job description to put we'll. help you with that the these are things. that we're going to focus on the small. business owner side because that's a. language that we speak comfortably I.
hosted last year I held an event called. The Vault conference Tom Brady was at. the event we're holding this one this. year at Palm Beach Convention Center. we're expecting nearly 10,000 people to. be there for three and a half days we. talk purely business strategy growth all. of that right so the consulting firm is. a big part of our pillar of what we're. going to be doing product development on. man with the man app I don't know if you. heard about. it's grown exponentially quarter to. quarter we're up 78% the whole thing. with man is 8 years ago I call a lawyer.
uh I have a seven-minute call with him. he bills me for 30 minutes I call him I. say why are you billing me for 30. minutes I have the number here you had a. seven-minute call he says minutes roll. up I said not to 30 minutes maybe to 10. minutes he says no it's 30 minutes I. said what do you charge by the minute he. says no lawyer charges by the minute I. said one day I'm going to create a. website or an app that I get to pay. people by the minute so do you have a. minute to connect let's man so whereas. most places you email somebody and the. response rate a cold email is 1% less.
than 1% that someone's going to like. somebody C respon hey Tucker I'd love to. talk to you about a job what's the. chances you're getting back to that. person an email probably slim t on right. I I don't do email so yeah pretty low. right on Instagram it's 3% response rate. on Twitter it's five on LinkedIn is 8%. on man you're paying to get a respond. back so you're paying a person $50 $100. $300 $500 and they respond back to you. because you're respecting their time our. response rate right now is.
94% they get back to you and over 50% of. the time they get back to you within 24. hours so we have the Consulting we have. the product development we have the. media side on the media side uh I think. the media landscape right now is wide. open uh it's filled with a lot of. talented people some that are driven by. money some that are driven by Fame a few. that are driven by values and principles. we're driven by values and principles. and a vision and it's pure conviction. it's not like a you know I need another.
nice car I need another nice house or I. need a lot of you know however much. money in the bank no this is we have a. real Vision a real cause that we're. going to go for 40 years and I think at. the end of the day 10 20 30 years down. the line they're going to look at this. thing and say oh wow this is one of most. influential companies in the world. that's what we're going to be doing so. just I I can't assess the rest though. congratulations. um but I can sort of assess the media. part of just having worked in it and we. are at a pivot point for sure and all of.
a sudden you have all these independent. voices some of them are bigger than the. established voices because Legacy Media. is obviously. dying but do those Independent Media. figures come together at some. point if they did are you kidding me I. mean that would be very intimidating if. that was to happen if because the market. wants everything divided that's what the. enemy wants the enemy wants everybody. divided they can bully and push around.
if you're divided because you can't. build a household influential thing if. you're divided if we can bring everybody. together and sister said one of the. problems why Empires fall is because. everybody wants to know who got the most. credit I did it no if it wasn't for me. and that's the challenge with sometimes. people on the conservative side. everybody wants credit right so. if some of these guys can unite and work. together um the enemy is not going to. like that that's going to be very very.
scary for the enemy uh because they're. not used to that they're used to. dividing and pinning everybody against. everyone it's an easy you know Art of. War sunu it's nothing new divid and. Conquer easily they do it all the time. but if some of these guys can set aside. their egos and find a way where each can. individually win and collectively win. game over it's going to be fun next 10. 20. years Patrick Bet David thank you very. much really enjoyed it I will see you. again I look forward to it thank.
you oh we're getting serious baby we're. not [ __ ] around this is no this is. Big Time this is Big Time stuff here. this is legit you know it was funny like. some of my earliest memories are my. parents playing this game and let me get. my eye glasses cuz I can't I can't see. this. H ladies and gentlemen his sister kicked. his ass so so well I just lost one of my. daughters thanks for watching our.
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