Paris Burns as the Great Replacement Reaches Its Inevitable Conclusion

Well, good evening and welcome. If. you've got internet access, you may have. spent part of the weekend looking at. horrifying violent images from Europe, particularly from France and its capital. city, Paris, where protests turned, as. they so often do, into riots, and then. chaos and stores burning and people. assaulted and mobs of blackclad, apparently young people with face masks. running through the streets setting. things on fire. basically just hellish. chaos that you wouldn't want in your.

hometown. And in the days since, there's been a. lot of analysis over what this is and. what it means for France and Europe and. honestly for the United States and the. rest of the West. And it does mean. something. And we'll tell you what we. think it means in just a minute. But. before we get to that, before we get to. the analysis and superimposing our. worldview on a world event, just to the. facts of it, because those are real, too. So the riots you're watching in. France were originally organized and.

maybe even conceived as protests. And the organizers were not just fringe. groups, but they were all kinds of. different groups, including the. country's largest labor union, which is. hardly fringe. In France, labor unions. are still powerful. So they are. stakeholders. They may be crazy, but. they're not nihilistic. They don't want. to burn it all down because well, they. live off GDP like everybody else in the. nation of France. And so they began as. protests specifically uh about France's.

education system and the lack of funding. and the poor state of its schools. supposedly which honestly not having. checked we can believe but really they. were protests against the nature of the. French economy and we know this. because that's what they said they were. but also because almost simultaneously. protests of a similar nature broke out. across Europe in a whole bunch of. different countries. Italy and Belgium and Serbia, even. Albania had similar protests. And all of.

them, though they call themselves. different things, were basically. expressions of outrage against the one. thing that unifies all of those. countries and maybe every western. country, which is the boomer economy. These are all economies in which the. majority of wealth is held by people who. are much older. and a vanishingly small and in fact. diminishing percentage of wealth, household wealth is held by young. people. And that's not necessarily.

natural. Hasn't always been that way, but it is that way now. And a big. percentage of these economies, particularly the French economy, is. absorbed by payments to retirees. So. something like 30% of the entire French. education budget goes not to teaching or. schools or lunches but to the retirement. of retired teachers, teachers who no. longer teach there. Now they signed up. and signed on the dotted line to terms. that you know are still in place like no.

one's arguing that their pension should. be taken away from them. On the other. hand, when you get to a system where 30%. of your education expenditure is really. retirement. fees, that's not working correctly. That's. dysfunctional. That can't last. In fact, what you're really doing is shafting the. next generation. And they are. And. again, not just in France, all through. Europe. And by the way, all through the. West, including in this country.

So in the United States, we have a. boomer economy, too. The majority of. household wealth is held by boomers, people born between 46 and 65. The. post-war generation, the generation of. Woodstock, the generation of the civil. rights movement, the generation of. basically every defining fact of modern. life, those people, the ones who can't. stop talking about themselves, celebrating themselves. And in the end, we shouldn't be surprised to learn that. they turned out to be on average, not. all of them, but as a group, the.

greediest and selfish, most selfish. generation really in American history. So, they own the majority of household. wealth. And no one's saying it's ill. gotten or they stole it or anything, but. it's just a fact. They have the. majority. And people under 40 have about. 6.5% of total household wealth in the. United States. Not under 20. These. aren't kids. These are under 40. So, these are almost middle-aged adults. themselves. And so, it shouldn't. surprise you that the media named for. first-time home buying in this country.

is 40. And that's because, not that houses have. gone out of style or people don't want. to own their own place. They do as much. as they ever have, which is a lot. That's because they can't afford it. because all the money is tied up in an. older generation or a couple generation, the Fox News viewer generation, the. boomers. And it's also probably not a surprise. that every president we've had since. 1992,

with one exception, Joe Biden, they've all been boomers. All. of them. So, we live in a boomer. culture. It's going away not quickly. enough, but we definitely live in a. boomer economy. And when you have an. economy like that, of course, people who. are left out of it, who feel unfairly. excluded by it, are going to be mad. And. in the current world, they have even. more reason to be mad. Not simply. because they don't have the money that. older people do, but because older.

people just don't care. And that's. obvious in every public opinion poll on. the subject. If you were to ask boomers, and this has happened a lot, in a public. opinion poll, "What do you think of this. arrangement?" They will tell you, well, this is money that we deserved. In fact, there was a recent poll in the. United States of Boomers who again hold. the majority of the household wealth in. the country, and they were asked, would. you support higher taxes on young. people, people under 40, the ones who.

own 6.5% of household wealth in America, in order to keep your social security. benefits going? Now keep in mind this is. the richest segment of the population. talking about the poorest segment of the. population and 89% of them said, "Oh. yeah, of course I would. Yeah, this is. our money. We deserve it." The Woodstock. generation deserves it social security. And if that means, I don't know, moving. the median home buying age to 50, well, sorry. And again, it probably shouldn't. surprise you that the generation that.

has never stopped talking about itself. would have these attitudes, but they're. ugly attitudes. And again, they're on. display everywhere. You see them in our. ruling class. You see elderly. billionaires whose motivating impulse is. to make more money. Well, if you're a. billionaire, particularly a billionaire, say over 60, let's say you're an. 80-year-old billionaire, and your main goal is to make more. money, you have to ask like what is that? Make. more money for what? You're a. billionaire. Why do you care about.

making money in your 80s? Maybe you. think you're going to live forever. thanks to Neuralink or something, but. probably not. Maybe it's just a disease. Maybe it's something called greed. Maybe. it's an unfillable void. like lust or gluttony. Maybe it's just a. very recognizable character defect. In. fact, a sin. And maybe it's infected. everybody in charge in the West. possible. In any case, that's the. perception and young people are mad. about it. And so, again, you probably.

shouldn't be surprised if that's the. system you have that at some point. you're going to get protests. And. whenever you have lots of young people. gathered, those protests are apt to. become violent. And they did across. Europe, but particularly in France for. reasons that we'll describe in a minute. But first, to video of the protests. we're talking about. Here's a montage. Heat.

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If you haven't seen that tape, you may. have thought to yourself when you heard. there were riots in France or big. demonstrations in France that got out of. control. You may have dismissed it in. your own mind as something you have.

heard before because of course you have. heard it before. The French are always. protesting. The French love to protest. often for reasons the non-French mind. can barely comprehend. There's some sort. of theoretical reason we need to take to. the streets. And they've been doing this. for a very long time. Well, hundreds of. years of course the French Revolution. began this way. But there's something a. little different about these protests. One, they were legitimately chaotic. These were not yellow vests on tractors. going down the shs le demanding more.

attention to French agriculture or. something that seemed fine and very. French. These seem like protests that were from. the beginning riots which is to say they. were not organized. They were chaotic. and they were violent and they were. taking place in central Paris which is. not only the capital of the country and. has been for more than a thousand years. but is really the center of the country. in a way Americans may find hard to. understand. There's no American city. that represents to France what Paris. does to France. You wouldn't want New.

York to go away, but if it did, it. wouldn't take with it the soul of. America. It would be our biggest city. And that's sad in some ways. It's. already gone. And that is sad. But it's. not like America ceases to exist. Paris. is really the core of France. It's in. the center of France and it's in the. center of the French mind. But it's also. or was for centuries anyway the center. of Western culture. France. I mean. fashion week in Paris. Everybody goes to.

Paris. It's another way of saying that. the scenes you're watching are unfolding. in places you probably have been. personally. Many Americans have. even. ones who don't travel very much. They. want to go to Paris. And of course, the. French authorities know that. Of course, they know that because France doesn't. really have much of an economy anymore. They make weapons and they make high-end. consumer goods. France itself is a. high-end consumer good, really, if you. think about it. And so to allow that kind of chaos and.

violence in recognizable places in front. of landmarks in downtown Paris, pretty wild thing to allow if you think. about it. Where were the French. authorities? Well, this is something. else you should know about France. The. French authorities are not maybe quite. as incompetent as you may assume they. are. If you get your news about France. from the Simpsons and imagine the French. are fundamentally cheese eating. surrender monkeys kind of buffoonish and. absurd and full of themselves and. baguettes and gwis and and all the rest.

and of course all of that's true and. they work about 20 hours a week and. cliche cliche cliche cliche. You may not. know that there are parts of the French. French state which are ruthlessly and. famously efficient and that would. include their internal security. services. French intelligence is not a. joke. And anyone familiar with the topic. will tell you that French intelligence. assassinates as many people as any other. intelligence service. Maybe more, probably more. France has nuclear. weapons. And if you talk to anyone in.

the nuclear weapons business, they will. tell you that of all nations in Europe, France is by far considered the most. likely to use those nuclear weapons. Lots of countries have been protested by. say Greenpeace, but it was only France. that blew up a Greenpeace ship in. Auckland Harbor in 1985 called the. Rainbow Warrior. They sunk it right to. the bottom of the harbor with limpit. mines and killed a guy on board. Britain. didn't do that. Spain didn't do that. France is kind of a serious place. It. was only a couple of years ago that.

France grabbed Pavle Durov, the guy who. owns Telegram, the social media app, the. messaging app. And they were mad that. they didn't have a back door. into Telegram. And so they just arrested. him at an airport where he was refueling. and they held him for over a year in. France. They didn't ask anybody's. permission. They just did it. Well, that's disgusting, of course, authoritarian, obviously, but that's the. way they are. And if you doubt that, read any account. of the Algerian wars of the 1950s where.

the French colonial authorities tried to. crack down on separatist independence. movements in North Africa. They were. tough and brutal and decisive. And so it's only worth noting that to. say that if the French authorities. wanted to crack down on these protests. at the very beginning, well, they. certainly could have. They have the. technology for sure. They have the will. and they have the personnel. It's like. the most functional part of the French. state is its internal security services.

But they didn't. In fact, the French. president, Emanuel Mccron, was at a it's. hard to believe we're not making this. up, but we're not. He was at a Selen. Dion concert when this all happened. Literally, I mean, like that just that. had to be scripted. That can't be real. speaking of the Simpsons, but he was he. was a Selen Dion concert as a half a. million people and they knew this was. going to happen gathered in central. Paris in anger. So what is that? Why would they allow? Of course, we don't have an answer for.

that other than to note the obvious, which is they've been allowing this kind. of thing for 40 or 50 years, probably. since de Gaul. And we know that because we've been to. Paris recently, and it's filthy and it's. full of people from other countries. making a mess. It's covered in graffiti. and everyone can see that. So what. you're watching now probably is just the. most obvious expression of what has been. happening for decades, which is the. implosion of a nation overseen by its.

own authorities. They know what's. happening. You can't allow graffiti in. your downtown for decades without having. the whole thing fall apart. The broken. windows theory is real. Minor displays. of disorder lead to greater displays of. disorder which leads to chaos and. collapse. That's just the nature of life. in this world and everybody knows it. intuitively and that's why functional. cities like Tokyo or Moscow or Abu Dhabi. or pick one there are a lot Singapore. they don't allow that but France does.

and serially does which is to say lots. of French leaders over many many years. have allowed their country to degrade. which suggests over time that that's. kind of what they wanted or being paid. to allow or whatever but it's not an. accident so we probably shouldn't be. surprised that the French authorities. sat back and watched their own capital. city burn, which they have. So, those were kind of the newsre. clips just to give you an overview. Here. is a much tighter shot on an individual.

facing the mob. This is the street level. view of the riots in Paris this weekend. Watch. Wow. Welcome.

>> Well, what is that? That doesn't look. like a protest against education funding. or a boomer economy, both of which seem. pretty legitimate. Actually, the economy. is ridiculous in the way that it's. structured and everybody knows that. And. if young people are poor, it doesn't. work by definition. So, it's okay to. protest it. But that wasn't protest. That was looting. And that was roughing. up some woman. Now, apparently that. woman, we have read, is some sort of.

left-wing activist or fashion icon or. something. And people are saying that. she deserved to get roughed up by the. mob. Okay. No, she didn't. Actually, no. matter what her views are, no one. deserves that. No one deserves to be. intimidated by people in black masks in. their own city. That's awful. And more. than awful, of course, you're watching. the collapse of a civilization, of civil. society. That's what that is. Even. people with stupid political views are. allowed to have the expectation they can. walk down the street without being. tossed around by rioters.

You can never allow that. Okay, so. that's the first thing you notice. This. is really bad. No matter how you feel. about the protest or the politics of it. or whatever, that's the first thing. The. second thing you notice is not many. people in that video seem to be very. French at all. The girl who's getting. roughed up is obviously French, kind of. pretty French. you know, their women. famously are, but most other people seem to be. non-French, non-European,

and no one really wants to say that. It's considered bad to say that. But why. is it bad to say that? It's obvious and. it's meaningful and it also reflects a. reality that cannot be avoided by anyone. who visits Paris or any other European. capital these days, which is these. cities don't seem very European because. the majority of the people you see in. the street are not from Europe. And you. know that sorry by looking at them. So people in the United States have. noticed this and because we're in such a. politically polarized time and because. there's so much lying and everyone's.

working out some agenda usually has to. do with the farway Middle Eastern. conflict people are motivated to make. pmical points on the basis of clips like. that. And the one that you're hearing a. lot is that well the Muslims took over. Paris. And there's definitely some truth. in that. France had a bunch of different. colonies in North Africa, which are. Muslim countries. And after they gave up. those colonies, as a lot of colonial. powers did, they allowed people from. those countries to move to France for. the cheap labor. And that turned out to. be a pretty bad deal over time, both for.

the French economy and for France. itself, for the culture, for everything. about France. But it's also true that that's not the. whole story. So people are using this to. tell you that Muslims are bad. Well, of. course, any Muslim who's behaving like. that is bad. But if you look carefully, it's not just Muslims. Actually, Paris. is a little different from other. European cities in that there is a huge. population of subsaharan Africans, not. North Africans, subsaharan Africans. And.

they're there for a simple reason, which. is that they speak French. There are. more than 20 countries in Africa that. are Frenchspeaking. A lot of them are. former French colonies. And the people. there speak French. when they show up in. mainland Europe and speak French and no. one else does, if you're in Frankfurt. and you speak French, you probably want. to get to Paris where other people speak. French. And so France has an awful lot. of subsaharan Africans living in it, particularly in Paris. And it's very. noticeable, not noticeable in a bigoted way, but. there is a difference. And anyone who. tells you there's no difference between.

people from different countries hasn't. been to other countries. There's a. massive difference. And so you hear on American television, this is a Muslim invasion. Okay? But. it's also a little more simple than. that. It is the result of mass migration in. this case from subsaharan Africa. And if. you don't think that matters, ask. yourself, would you be willing to take. your family on vacation in Marrakesh, Morocco? Probably. A lot of people do. spend a lot of money doing it. Would you.

bring your family on vacation to. Wagadugu Bkina Fasa? Probably not. And. you probably wouldn't because it's a. dangerous place like almost every single. city in subsaharan Africa outside of. Cape Town. That's just a fact. Now why. that's a fact, why that is a consistent. fact across the continent, unknown, and. we're not going to speculate, but it is. a fact. And so when you import a lot of. people from dangerous, chaotic places. that have always been dangerous and. always chaotic, that have no history of.

stability, you're probably going to replicate the. conditions they left over time if it's a. big enough group of people. And that's. exactly what has happened in Paris. Now, the extent to which it's happened, we. don't know because in 1978, the French. government banned counting people within. the borders of France by race. That was. 1978, which kind of happened to be the. beginning of a massive ramp up in. immigration into France. Kind of weird. There were something like 11,000. immigrants admitted that year. There are.

now millions and millions and millions. and hundreds of thousands admitted every. year still into France and a lot of them. from subsaharan Africa. So again, it's not to say that there. aren't troublesome Muslim immigrants in. France. Well, of course there are. Those. no-go zones you keep hearing about. But. to make a clean and fast political point. about it, h. and then it also raised the question, how did these people get there? How did. they make it to France in the first. place or any other European country or. for that matter the United States? Was.

it the Muslim lobby that got them here. or there? In the United States in 2001. on the eve of 911, there were about a. million Muslims in the entire country. 320 million people probably in the US. then and there were about a million. Muslims. There are now about six million. Muslims after 911. And the lesson of. 911, we're told, is that 19 Arabs with. box cutters committed the greatest act. of terrorism in American history. Muslims are bad. And yet somehow we got. an extra 5 million Muslims in 25 years.

Was it the Muslim lobby that did that? How did that happen? It might be worth. finding out. In fact, we definitely. should find out. And we need to find out. what happened to Europe because this is. the effect of it. Not because all the. people who came are bad. A lot of them. aren't bad, doubtless, because most. people aren't bad. But if you move a huge population of. completely different people into your. ancient country, you are going to have. conflict. And it almost doesn't matter. what the population is.

What matters most is its size. But that is always and everywhere a. recipe for disunion. And if you're. bringing people in from violent. countries where they express. disagreements with say machetes, you're. going to get machete attacks. And of. course all these European capitals have. So this was never the plan. And if you. raise this question, which you're not. invited to ever, but if you dare to, you. will hear that the people who are you're. watching on the screen are every bit as.

French as anybody else. But of course. that's demonstrabably untrue. It's not. true in any sense. They are not the. historic French population. They don't. share a common history with the rest of. the French nation. And there was a time. not that long ago when people could just. say that out loud that there was a. balance in any society between the. willingness to welcome. people from the outside and the. obligation to keep a stable population. An obligation not simply to your. ancestors but to your grandchildren.

Don't change the country overnight. It's. not your right to do that. And in fact, it was Charles de Gaulle, who was not. any kind of lunatic or whatever. He was. in fact the founder of the modern French. state, the fifth republic, who made that. point in 1959. In fact, we have the. quote, and it might be worth reading it. because when you first hear this, it. might be sort of titillatingly fringe, but if you think about it, it's entirely. reasonable and decent, and it. represented the majority public opinion. in 1959. And we would bet, though no one.

would ever pull it, it represents the. majority opinion in every country on the. globe at this point in history. Here's. the quote. It is very good that there. are yellow Frenchmen, black Frenchmen, brown Frenchmen. They prove that France. is open to all races and that she is a. universal mission. All right. But it is. good on condition that they remain a. small minority. Otherwise, France would. no longer be France. We are after all. primarily a European people of the white.

race, Greek and Latin culture and the. Christian religion. So if you find yourself in a place where. saying something like that is. controversial or hateful, and by the. way, if you do say something like that, if you ever dared to, you'd be. immediately attacked by the. Anti-Defamation League as a supremacist. of some kind. Evil. But if you come to a place where that. happens and people take the attack. seriously, where you're not allowed to. acknowledge that different people behave.

at least on the margins differently, they may have identical value in the. eyes of God and we believe they do, each. imbued with a soul. You can't kill them. or mistreat them. But you also are under. no obligation to mix them all up and. pretend that it's a coherent country. because that's not how things work or. ever have. And in fact, it's an act of. great hostility to do that to a nation. And as we'll show you in a minute, it. has been done to the nation of France. and to the surrounding nations and to. every country in the west, but no other.

country, which is kind of interesting. Well, in any case, at this point, we're. not exactly sure what percentage of the. French population or the population of. Paris is non-white, but it's huge. It's. obviously huge. In fact, it's so big, and this is also part of an inevitable. process, that there are elements of the. French political system who are no. longer complaining about it, but instead. embracing it. In fact, the leader of the. French left, who will be facing off to. in the coming elections in France to. vive for the presidency, he'll likely.

lose, but said recently that he doesn't want. France to be French. He would rather it. be Creole. And he described this process. of changing historic France into. something new and different and less. white as, and we're quoting now, the. great replacement, which made us laugh. Only the French dare say the obvious out. loud because of course the term the. great replacement is totally verboten in. the United States. It's considered a.

racist or somehow anti-semitic. conspiracy theory. The idea that the. populations of white countries are being. intentionally turned non-white. that. countries when you were a kid that had. white majorities no longer do. And that. that's not organic. It's not an. accident. Someone decided to do that, which is of course true. Obviously, none of this happens by accident. Nobody. actually wants this, but it happens. nonetheless. And you're not allowed to. note it or else you're the criminal, which is a kind of consistent theme in. the modern world. You catch someone.

doing something wrong, committing. genocide in Gaza, for example, and. noting that they're committing a crime. makes you the criminal. Shut up. You're. a hater. No, I'm not the one who's. killing people. I'm not the one who's. replacing historic indigenous. populations with foreigners against the. will of the population, which is to say. in violation of the precepts of. democracy and decency. I'm not the one. committing war crimes in Europe. But. that's not kind of how it works right. now. You say it, you're the bad guy. But. at this point, it's so obvious and it's.

so obviously non-hateful. to note what is right in front of your. face or to cite census numbers that why. not just say it? And why not also. straighten out the kind of moral. hierarchy here? The people who note. what's happening are not the bad guys. The people who are doing it are the bad. guys. The people who commit the crimes. are the ones who should hang their heads. in shame, not the ones who object to. those crimes. And make no mistake, this. is a crime. And one of the reasons it's a crime, and.

this is really no one's fault. It's just. kind of the nature of it, is that once. you change the population of a country, the new population will want that. country. It will believe and have reason. to believe, by the way, that this is. their country, too. And by country, we. mean not simply the infrastructure of. the country or the economic machinery of. the country. We mean the culture of the. country. And that would include the. history of the country. So people want to look out their door. and say, you know, my ancestors had a.

role in building all of this. There's a. continuity to my life which is limited. I was preceded by my parents and. grandparents and unback to the. generations and I will be followed by my. children and grandchildren etc. I am. part of a continuum. That's the most. human desire to want that. This is why. people visit or used to visit their. ancestors graves before somehow we were. all convinced to incinerate them and. toss them into the wind and pretend they. never existed in the first place. That's. called cremation, which is now the. overwhelming choice of white Americans.

But most cultures, even in the United. States, still stick to the old ways. And. they do it for a really obvious reason. This is my country, and I want my people. buried in its earth. And I want to visit. them. And in so doing, I establish a. connection between my life and theirs. and the lives to follow. History not. simply matters because we can learn. lessons from it. Though of course it. does because the cliche is true. It. repeats itself. But history is important. because it roots us in something larger.

than ourselves which is the whole scope. of time and the human experience. It. adds significance to our lives. It adds. form to our lives, meaning to our lives. And so we want it. And any group that. has a majority in a country will demand. it and we'll take it and we'll rewrite. the history of course to reflect our own. beliefs and our own aspirations. to highlight our own wounds. If you want to know who runs a country, it's often said ask who you can't.

criticize. But a maybe more accurate way. to measure who's in charge is to ask. who's in charge of history. Who gets to make sense of the past? An. endless number of details. who gets to. assemble them into recognizable form and. draw lessons from it. Those who control history control the. present obviously. And so the mark that you have reached a. point where you no longer have the same. culture is when history starts to be. destroyed. when mobs say, I don't know,

tear down the statues to your ancestors. or your ancestors heroes, or when, as. just happened in France, the mob in the. name of protesting school funding starts. torching old buildings. Watch this. >> I've been based in France quite a long. time, and this is the first time I've. seen a town hall deliberately set a. light. This is a very beautiful. building. Dates back to the 1800s, and. the people of Limar are very proud of. this building. They say it's one of the.

most attractive. And all day, fire. crews, there's still some smoldering. here. Fire crews have been going inside, checking out what the conditions are of. the walls, whether there's a chance that. they might actually collapse. And at the. moment, they just don't know. What you. need to know is that there were actually. some police cars just next to the. building. When the mob came in, the. police cars were set a light and there. were some police officers right there in. front and they were overwhelmed as the. mob came in and set a light to this. building. There was even marriages being. celebrated in this building on the first. floor just a few hours before the.

arsonist struck. You need to know that. there are hundreds of people here on the. walls behind me who've been watching all. day and they've been telling me they're. shocked, scared, and don't understand. why this happened. >> So to any normal person, certainly any. normal European, that is more than an. act of vandalism. It's an atrocity and. it's intentional. Torching a building. like that, of course, doesn't raise. school funding, doesn't change the. economy to the advantage of young. people. It's an act of desecration meant.

to erase the past in order to build a. new future along lines that immigrants. decide. So that's exactly what that is. And in that sense, it's an act of war. But more even than an act of war, it's a. kind of foreshadowing of the future. A. future in which Europe does not at all. belong to the people you thought live. there, the people whose ancestors built. it, everything about it, including that.

building. It will belong to a new set of. people who will be by definition, and. it's not their fault. It's just the. truth, totally disconnected from the. history of Europe. The history you grew. up reading about, the history that in. fact defines our lives. Even here in the. United States to this day, the history. of Europe is central to the history of. the United States and New Zealand and. Australia and Canada and the entire. Western world. Of course, that's our. history. But when the population. changes, that history will be replaced. in the same way that Lakota or Hopi or.

any other Native American history was. completely erased. Of course. Do you know anything about. Pasamquati history? No. Do you care? Of course not. Why not? Because you don't have to because the. past muadies have been replaced. That's. not self flagagillation. That's not, oh, we committed genocide. Though there's a. case for that. It's merely a. straightforward observation about the. nature of replacement.

And when the old is replaced over time, it's not mourned any more than people. are. In the end, no one visits their. grave. And in the end, no one remembers. their history. Why would they any more. than we celebrate the milestones of. Assyrian history? We don't. The reason. it's worth noting all of this is because. it's happening right in front of us. And. it's again not the product of a. conventional war. Europe didn't get. invaded and conquered. In fact, we're. still told Europe was somehow liberated. back 80 years ago. Hard to see how. that's true now. In any case, it is no.

less an act of war simply because it. happened over time in much more subtle. and hidden ways. And it did happen. And. we're going to read some of the numbers. Now, not to be pedantic or boring, but. just to show you kind of the scope of. this. So, here's a list of European. cities. And as we said, the numbers in. France are a little bit hard to guess at. because they're not officially. available, having been banned in 1978. when immigration really started in. earnest. But they are available in other.

countries. So here's I think the second. biggest French-speaking city in Europe, which would be Brussels, Belgium, 1955. So 10 years after the end of the war, Brussels was 95% European. 95% which. shouldn't surprise you. It's a European. city. It's a ancient European city. Brussels is now 21% European. 21% 95 to. 21%. Well, that's pretty amazing. London. 1955 97% English European white today.

36%. 97 to 36% Amsterdam 98% now 40% minority. Berlin 98% 1955. 10 years after losing the war today 57%. Vienna 95% 55 today 51% barely a. majority Stockholm Sweden a little kind. of out of the fray up in Scandinavia. that big peninsula up there to the west, Scandinavia kind of not in the heart of.

things, right? Even Stockholm, big city. 1955, not surprisingly, Stockholm, Sweden, was 97% Swedish. Today, it's. 65%. In other cities in Sweden, Melmo, most famously, are minority Swedish. So, you may think that's great. You may. think it's terrible. It almost kind of. doesn't matter what you think. You will. spend all day, in fact, you'll spend the. rest of your life trying to find a. correlary in world history. Nothing like. this has ever happened before that we.

know of. Certainly since the pyramids, you have never seen a replacement. on this scale and this precisely. targeted. It is only, and we would dare. anybody to refute this with numbers and. not just hysteria about white supremacy. It is only the majority white cities and. countries that have turned over in. population. Nothing like this has. happened in Africa or Asia or the Middle. East. It has happened only in nations.

with a white majority. And they no. longer are a white majority. And at this. pace, very soon, in fact, within our. lifetimes, there will not be a single. white majority nation in the world other. than Russia. And that's of course. assuming that Russia isn't destroyed in. the current war. And it raises the. question about the motives behind this. current work. Is it possible that the. fact that Russia is the last big. majority white country in the world, does that play a role in the hatred that. many feel for it? We don't know. Just. throwing that out there. But it's not a. crazy thing to ask given that this is a.

universal fact across the globe from. Australia to Ottawa, from Canra to. Ottawa that majority white nations. either are no longer majority white or. are moving. so quickly to minority white. status that there will be none left in. 20 years. And that would include, by the. way, even Iceland, the the tiny frozen country settled by. Vikings a thousand years ago, which.

until recently had one of the most. homogeneous. populations in the world. In fact, so. homogeneous that Icelanders famously did. a lot of genealogy before getting. married because the chances your. neighbor was your cousin were pretty. darn high. Even Iceland all of a sudden is. struggling with immigration, unwanted. immigration. There's never been evidence. that the majority of Icelanders wanted. immigration, but they were bullied from. the outside. And you can read about it. in some detail if you're interested how.

exactly that happened. But it did happen. to the point that immigration is if you. talk to anyone who lives in Iceland one. of the big issues in that country and. its jail population reflects that. What. was an orderly homogeneous prosperous. country still is in a lot of ways but. becoming much less so very quickly. thanks to mass migration that they. didn't want. It's almost like in fact. it's not almost like it is a fact that. they were targeted because they were too. white. Now, what is that? Well, it's not.

an act of love. It's the opposite. It's. an act of hate. And if it was an act of. love, if the principle held universally. that diversity is our strength, that. it's good for you to have a country that. has no working majority of anybody, certainly not a white majority. But if. it was just always good to be diverse, then there would be wellconsistent, in fact, equal and consistent pressure. on every nation in the world to adopt. the same standard. and the United. Nations and the Soros organizations and.

the Democratic Party of the United. States and every green party on the. planet would be working in concert to do. to the rest of the world what they have. done to the white world and that is to. mix it up a little bit. Why is China 99%. Honchinese? Why is India all Indian? Why. is Bkina Fasa all African? Those countries must be weak. But of. course, that hasn't happened. It is only. white countries that have been targeted. And so the onus is not on the people who. notice it to explain what that is. The.

onus is on the people who did it to. explain why they did it and to tell the. rest of us why this isn't hate. Because. it so clearly is. You don't act this way. to people you love. And of course, countries that are cherished and loved. by their leaders and their supporters. don't have this. That would include. China. It would include Israel, which. has fought many wars over demographics. In fact, is fighting currently on seven. fronts over the question of. demographics.

And you can revile that in the behavior. of the Israeli military. And of course, we have, but it doesn't change the fact that at. its root, Israel's struggle is over. demographics. They would like their. country to be filled with people like. them, and they're willing to fight for. it, and or at least they're willing to. use the US military to fight for it. And. that's not an attack. It's just an. observation, but it's almost never made. because of course the obligation is for. white countries to diversify, but. everyone else to do exactly what they. want. And why is that? And why does no.

one ask that question? But even if you're in favor of that, you. would have to look at what is happening. in Paris, even if you hated the French, even if you hated whites, you would have. to look at that as sad. Is rioting ever good? Is chaos ever. good? You see the video of the blonde. girl getting hassled by men in masks. pushed around. A normal person would feel sympathy. A. normal person look at that and say, "Ah, I may not like the French or or what I.

don't hate Europe, but gee, that's. tough. I wouldn't want that in my town.". But that's not how people looked on it. at all, actually. And here's one. example. Here's the prime minister of. Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, asked in a. recent interview in just the last few. days, you saw what's happening in. France, what do you make of it? And. here's his response. >> Mcronone called me on October 7th. >> What did he say? >> He said, "You know, we have to work to. for an immediate ceasefire and to solve. this by diplomacy.".

And I said, "No, no, Emanuel, it's not. going to be solved by diplomacy. These. are monsters. These are these are. neo-Nazis. You don't solve a problem of. the SS.". as I told the German chancellor who came. here um with diplomacy, you destroy. them. And I I said to him this, I said, you know, kamas is like ISIS. In fact, it's worse in some respects than ISIS, even worse than ISIS. And let me tell. you, if we don't stop Kamas here, you'll.

see them on the streets of Paris. And. that's exactly what is happening right. now. >> Do you think Emanuel Mcronone has. learned his lesson today, seeing what's. happening in France? Well, I think the French people see. what's happening in the streets of. France and probably will, as it looks. like, it will could foster a change in. in the political makeup of France. It's an amazing clip that should be. saved for future generations to savor.

and learn from. So, the first thing you. notice is how the prime minister of. Israel immediately makes about himself. So, France is literally burning. Paris. is burning. doubles. He's he's an. international person. He's been to Paris. and it's a city that the world has loved. for hundreds of years, maybe more than. it deserves. But in any case, it is. Paris. It's not your average city. It's. not Tucson or Tel Aviv for that matter. It's a great global city and it's on. fire. And so rather than extend any. sympathy at all, you have the Israeli. prime minister making it immediately.

about himself. Oh, Mcronone called me. about Hamas. Hamas. Hamas. And Hamas is. on the street. Hamas is not on the. streets. What? It had nothing at all to. do with Israel, we think. But here the. guy is talking about himself. And then. he is expressing something. You watch. the tape again if you're checking this. out on your phone. Rewind that. It's. pretty obvious that he's taking some. satisfaction in the fact that Paris is. burning. And it's not the first time. that the Israeli prime minister or other.

leaders, including in the United States, certainly in our neocon community, have. taken pleasure in the destruction of. Europe. When the invasion of Spain from. North Africa accelerated a few weeks. ago, you saw the same reaction. Well, they deserve it. They criticize what. we're doing in Gaza. They deserve it. They deserve it. Your average Spaniard. deserves to have his country destroyed. That chick outside the store in Paris. deserves to get roughed up by a mob. because Mcronone wanted a negotiated.

settlement to the Gaza conflict. Really? Are you saying that? He is saying that. And as he says it, you can feel what is. absolutely real. What he has expressed. in public before, which is hostility to. Europe and Europeans. Now, where does. that come from? We're not even going to. speculate. We don't know. We don't have. to say where it comes from, by the way. We don't have to guess. All we have to. do is show that it's real. That hatred, that coldness, that contempt, that. delight in the suffering of Europeans is.

everywhere. It's everywhere, including. in our country. Ask yourself in this moment of resurgent. tribalism in the United States. And we. should note parathetically that mass. migration causes tribalism. If you're. over 50 and you grew up in the United. States, unless you grew up in some inner. city scenario like Philadelphia or New. York or something, you probably didn't. think of yourself in terms of your. ethnicity. You were just like an. American. Most Americans actually had. that experience. Believe it or not, yeah, I'm an American. In fact, people.

were hesitant even to name their. ancestry. Again, if you're in some big. eastern city, yeah, the Italians and the. Pocks and you know, famously Westside. Story stuff, but most Americans, certainly in the Sunb Belt, in the. emerging states, the growing states, did. not identify themselves by their race or. their ethnicity. because tribalism, despite the. propaganda you doubt was heard, was not. the defining fact of American life. But. it is becoming the defining fact of. American life, as it always does through.

mass migration. When there's no working. majority of anything, people retreat to. their tribes and their compassion. evaporates. Their suspicion grows always. and everywhere. But in the United. States, it is also true that one form of. tribalism is not only banned, legally banned, probably. Is it a crime. to be a white supremacist? whatever that. is to be aware of your whiteness.

Probably talk about it enough and you're. definitely going to get surveiled by the. federal government. But more than that, more than that, it is the one ethnicity. that is not only okay to discriminate it. against, but to openly hate and to call. for genocide against. Now, how do we. know that? Well, just from the reading. lists at our leading universities. and every single one of them has a. roster of books dedicated to calling for. killing white people. Oh, that's an.

overstatement. Is it? Is it. white fragility, white rage? These are books about how the concept of. whiteness when they've sort of tried to. allied the genocide accusation by making. about whiteness inventing a new term. But basically these are attacks on white. people. If they were attacks on. Jewishness or blackness, chineseess, they would be called rightly what they. are, which is attacks on a people for. characteristics they were born with.

And they're everywhere. Here's our. favorite just because it's hilarious. ever. This is like the most amusing. thing ever. is a book by professor. professor Jonathan Metzel of Vanderbilt. University called Dying of Whiteness: How the Politics of Racial Resentment is. Killing America's Heartland. And what's hilarious about it. is that the American Heartland is dying, of course, but probably not because it's. too white or too aware of being white.

It's also possible the Sackler family. pumping opioids into Appalachia, killing. hundreds of thousands of Americans in. the heartland had some role in its dying. or the guys who offshored all the jobs. to Asia in order to take a quick hit. That may have had some role in it maybe. But according to Professor Jonathan. Metzel of Vanderbilt University in. Nashville, Tennessee, it's their. whiteness that too much whiteness. Now again, you don't have to be white or.

love whites or it doesn't even matter. who treats another group like that. Who. talks like that about other human. beings? Well, only people with genocidal intent. That's the language of hate. And of course, they've constructed this. kind of amazing system where pointing. out the hate is itself hate. And there. are a lot of nonprofits dedicated to. enforcing these absurd completely. 180°ree inverted rules. And one of them, of course, is the ADL,

the Anti-Defamation League, which would. defend Professor Metsel to the end and. attack anyone who criticizes Professor. Metsel's obviously genocidal intent. Whiteness is killing people. Being white. is a crime, would attack those people as the. criminals and the haters. But no, this. is silly. It's obvious now that this kind of. language, that this ideology is the. actual threat. How would you rate them? The shred of.

Sharia law, which we're not for, by the. way, as an Episcopalian, not for Sharia. law. Okay. But to the average American, the threat of anti-white hysteria and. hate that results in your kid not. getting into college or getting a job or. the threat of Sharia law, which is I. don't know. Are we in the verge of. getting Sharia law? Probably not. Don't. want it. Hope we don't get it. But that's not coming anytime soon. The.

anti-white stuff is already here and yet. no one ever mentions it. Why is that? It's almost like there's a conspiracy of. silence to prevent us from noticing the. most obvious thing around us, which is that our country has totally. changed in the same way the rest of the. previously white world has changed. And. it's not an accident. It's on purpose. And it is somehow a crime to talk about. it. No thanks. Because clearly we can. see where it winds up, which is with.

conflict. And it would wind up that way in any. country in which the demographics. changed this dramatically against the. will of the population obviously. So. you have to kind of wonder. how this happened in this country and. this hate posing as concern. has been allowed to kind of continue for. all these years specifically since 1965.

when the immigration law changed and. those changes were specifically designed. to make the country less white. How has this been allowed to continue. without anybody saying anything about. it? How is, for example, Chuck Schumer, who is the head Democrat in the Senate, allowed to say things like this without. being challenged. Watch. Now more than ever, we're short of. workers. Uh we have a population that is. not reproducing it on its own with the.

same level that it used to. The only way. we're going to have a great future in. America is if we welcome and embrace. immigrants, the dreamers and all of. them. cuz our ultimate goal is to help. the dreamers but get a path to. citizenship for all 11 million or. however many undocumented there are. here. Okay. I mean it just says it. So he. correctly identifies the problems. The. birth rate is falling off a cliff. That's like not a surprise to anybody.

If you create a system in which the. majority of the wealth is held by people. who are beyond their reproductive years. and people 40 and under have 6.5% of the. wealth, it's going to be a lot harder to. start families and have kids, right? So, and there are a lot of other problems. The education system is terrible and. drugs are rampant and there a lot of. problems in the United States. Instead. of fixing any of them or even mentioning. them, Chuck Schumer says, "Our goal, you. can replay it. Our goal is to help the. dreamers and all other undocumented." In.

other words, the people we care about. are not the people who live here because. they're white. The people we care about. are the people we're importing who are. not. So, he was cheered by all the people. around him, the emerging coalition. But that's an expression of deep. hostility toward the people who live. here. Not just a lack of caring, not. just ignoring. This is mocking them as. they die. using their money.

And it's had a huge effect. So, we're. going to do something that you're. definitely not allowed to do, which is. read the census numbers. Now, the census. numbers are a product of the census, which is taken every 10 years, and it's. taken because it's mandated in the. Constitution. Now, why is that? Because. the framers understood, as anybody who. runs a country understands, that who. lives within your borders is the single. most important fact about your country. Who lives there is the most important. fact because people are always the most.

important variable. in any equation. So, in order to find. out who lives here, they mandated, and. we still do it, a census, a nationwide. census. Find out who lives here in the. census every 10 years. And those. numbers, which are federal numbers. available on the internet, tell an amazing story. But an even. greater story is that no one feels free. to read those numbers. So again, if you. reach a place where the ADL slanders you.

and you may get debanked by JP Morgan. Chase for reading federal census. numbers, then you know that something. unhealthy is going on here. That's not. good at all, but whatever. Here are the. numbers. So, in 1955, New York City, believe it or. not, was 90% white. New York City, our. biggest city, 10 million people, 90%. white. Today, it's 31% white. Chicago. was 85% white. Today, it's 32% white.

Los Angeles in 1955 was 93% white. Today, it's 28% white. So, what do you get when you add all. that up? You get a non-white country, which is, despite what you may hear, what we already have. The three biggest. cities. in the United States are overwhelmingly. non-white. In fact, there is not a. single city in the United States of that.

is majority white anymore. Now again, you could say that's great or it's. terrible, but you first have to answer the. question, how did that happen? Nothing. like that has ever happened to any. country ever. How did that happen? Our three biggest states are in order by. population, California, Texas, and. Florida. All of them are majority. non-white. California is like 32% white.

Texas is in the 40s. So, and those three states together, just those three states, not including. the other 47, are about 100 million. people all told out of a country of 350. So, that's the country right there. Of our cities, and cities define a. nation of our cities, and look this up. if you don't believe it. There is not a. single city in the United States of. that has a white majority. Not one. Not. one out of all of our cities. There's.

not one city over a million for sure. In. fact, our biggest city, I think this is. right, the biggest city in the United. States that's still majority white is. Boise, Idaho, which is about what, 280,000, something like that. It's under. 300,000. That's our biggest majority. white city. And in 1955, Los Angeles was 93% white. Doesn't make you a white supremacist to. note that. All demographers know it. They probably. talk about it in private like what the. hell is that? And it's our turn to ask.

what the hell is that? Because is it. better? First of all, even if it is. better, it wasn't wanted. There was never a. referendum on this. And whenever people. have been allowed to vote on. immigration, and the last couple of presidential. campaigns they have been because Trump. ran on immigration, they overwhelmingly. vote, the majority votes against it. They don't want this. And by the way, not just white people. There are a lot. of non-white people who don't want new. waves of immigrants. But all of this,

the point is, was imposed on the. American population against its will. But not just the American population. That's the amazing thing. So France, we're all like France has been taken. over by immigrants. Well, France is. about, we think, about 13% foreignb. born. That's not as high as the United States. Not even close. Now, our official number. is 16%. could be way higher than that. because we don't know who lives here. because despite all our advanced. technology and flock cameras, the. federal government hasn't gotten around. to figuring out how many people live. here. Well, they probably know, but they.

won't tell us. And it seems very clear. there are tens of millions, tens and tens and tens of millions of. people here illegally, mostly from third. world countries. So that's the United. States. But that's also true in. Australia, which is about 32% foreignb. born. 32% Have you been to Australia. recently? We have. Doesn't look like the. Australia that Outback Steakhouse told. you about. It's completely It's a. completely different country. Maybe. it'll be way better. Or maybe not. But.

how did that happen? How'd that happen. to New Zealand? How that happened to. Canada, which will soon be nonwhite in. its majority? We need to find out how that happened. One thing we know for certain is that it. happened with the complicity of those. governments. None of this was imposed on. any of these governments by force. The leaders of every one of those. countries, every white country in the. world other than Russia played along. with this. But what was the motive?

And instinct tells you it has something. to do with the post-war consensus after. World War II, which really is our. secular religion. Good defeated evil. Order was restored. And by the way, good. did defeat evil. Britain was and the US. are a lot better than Nazi Germany for. sure. Hitler was bad. Of course, but the consensus is a little bit deeper. than that. And part of the consensus. appears to be that majority white. countries are a threat to the world and.

inherently immoral. Therefore, we have. to get rid of them. And the result is that we have. and the result of that is Paris. And so before we take a single further. step down this road, it might be nice to. get a clear accounting of the mechanism. by which something that none of these. populations wanted was imposed on them. And it would be especially gratifying to. see the perpetrators of this crime. held to account for it, punished for it,

because it is a crime, one of the. greatest crimes ever committed. But in the meantime, a lot of people, certainly our leadership class, has no. idea that it happened or unwilling to. acknowledge it, don't care. There's a kind of boomer mindlessness. about it, a kind of everything will be. fine because it always is about it. And. that would extend unfortunately to our. current president here in the United. States, the man who was elected twice on. the promise to shut the borders and. deport the people who are not Americans. who are living here. Even that guy.

somehow all of a sudden is telling us we. need more foreigners in a country that. has changed beyond recognition in the. past 50 years. So here's Donald Trump. excitedly chattering about changing the. population still more. >> Look, I've always been in favor of. students coming in from other countries. That includes China and uh we have. 500,000 Chinese students coming in. I've. always been in favor of it. Uh, does it. mean you uh that you have to watch.

people? Yeah, you have to watch. students, but you have to watch other. people also. I've always been strongly. in favor of it. I think it's a great. thing. It's also It's good for our. schools. It's good for I think it's good. for our country. I I'm also in favor of. having them stay. I'm in favor of having. them stay. Now, just again with the. caveat that applies to all people since. people are fundamentally just people, good and bad. probably tons of great people in the. hundreds of thousands of Chinese. students that he's talking about. But.

that's not really the point. Whether. they're great people, they're not. American people. And America has too. many people here who are not American. people. And as a result, the country is. becoming fragile and disunified and. volatile. And its history is being. rewritten. And all of that will continue. at accelerating pace unless we slow it. way down. But in the mindless boomer. mind, it's fine. It's fine. They're. great people. This is not what the population of these. countries want. They have never wanted. it. They've gotten it anyway.

and it needs to stop. And if there's one. thing we can learn from what's happening. in France right now, it's that if you. marry the economic stagnation of the. boomer economy, where only the people at. the very top seem to be getting along. well and are hoarding the money because. they're greed heads. If you marry that. and the inevitable frustration that it. engenders among young people with. mass migration, which causes your.

society to be inherently chaotic, the. churn. prevents any kind of national identity. from jelling. If you combine those two things, then. people are going to start burning things. down. Things will get super super crazy. You will destroy your country if you do. that. And that's why smart countries don't do. that. And for all the lecturing that. we've received over the past 20 years. about how diversity is our strength and. immigrants built this country and if we. didn't have immigration, we'd be.

nothing. And then windy lectures from. some person my parents came. Okay, stop. Stop. Stop. For all of that, no one has. asked the obvious question, which is, is. it true? And if it is true, then what. does China's immigration policy look. like? And that's especially relevant now. because thanks to a totally deranged. policy put in place by previous. generations of Chinese leaders called. the one child policy, China has. demographic problems. China was always, you know, sort of had an abundance of. people. Maybe they would argue too many.

people, too many mouths to feed. China. now has the opposite problem. It has, and much has been written about this, an. aging population. And they're worried about that because. Chinese leadership, whatever you think. of them, does think long term. and. they're serious people unlike the. mindless boomers who run our society. And so you would think just logically if. we don't have enough people, we need. more young people that China would be. importing people. But China is doing. exactly the opposite. And you can't argue with its success.

because China has the largest economy in. the world and over the past 30 years. the fastest growth rate. Of course, China dominates global commerce. So what. they're doing is working. But what. they're not doing is importing a lot of. new workers despite the fact they might. be able to use some. So the chi and you. should look this up because it'll make. you laugh. The Chinese immigration rate. is zero. China gives out a thousand or. two green cards, permanent resident. status cards per year. And no one is.

naturalized. into Chinese citizenship ever. China is Chinese and weirdly the ADL. does not have a problem with that. Nobody has a problem with that. Chuck. Schumer does not have a problem with. that. He's not threatened by Chinese. supremacism. He doesn't think that's. inherently racist for the Chinese or the. Indians who have exactly the same. policies or the Israelis for that. matter. He's not threatened by those. countries which are all to some extent. ethnostates.

It's only when white countries. think about returning to the status quo. of 60 years ago that the alarms go off. and people start getting surveiled and. arrested. So the onus is on Chuck. Schumer to explain what that is. What it is, of course, is insane and an. act of warfare and cruelty against. people who did nothing wrong. And this. has all been predictable for, well, we'll just say thousands of years. You.

want to exit this on a quote from. Aristotle. Never quote Aristotle, but. this quote is so amazing. And this was. written 2,300 years ago in his famous. treatis politics. And it's just so clear. and sensible that you sort of wonder. what the rebuttal from the ADL might be. Here's Aristotle, who by the way was not. American. He was Greek. And his view was this. A lack of common disscent is also a. cause of revolution as long as the.

citizens do not share a similar outlook. For a state does not emerge out of a. random population nor from a chance. period of time. It's not organic. It. doesn't just it doesn't just happen by. accident. People come together with. people with whom they share. fundamental characteristics and beliefs. Hence, those states who have admitted. resident aliens and settlers from abroad. have mostly succumbed to factional. strife. Yeah, that's what's happening to France. And.

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what to do about it so that we don't. become France. Here's that conversation. >> Thanks a lot for doing this, Jason. Um, so when people think of immigration, I. think they think of unwanted. people coming over their borders into. their country, taking American jobs, changing the complexion of the country, whatever. That's that's how people. envision immigration. So, you just close. the borders and it's done. But there's a. whole separate variety. of legal immigration. And one of the.

forms of it is called the H1B visa. program. And it turns out that's a. really significant part of immigration, the immigration picture and a part of. the problem. So would you just describe. what it is? What is the H-1B program? >> Yeah. So H-1B was I mean is something H1. visas uh existed as early as the 1950s. They were for supposedly special or or. in particularly meritorious immigrants. to come over to the country. >> Okay. >> 1990. >> we don't have any of this category of.

workers. We need them more important. >> That's exactly right. And so and then in. 1990 they signed something or split it. out in law. Bush signed it called the. H-1B. So the idea was for specialty. occupations, right? To your point, apparently the American market cannot. produce this very particular skill set. in enough uh and we're supposed to. believe right in enough volume or it. doesn't exist. And so it was both. temporary tied to a specific individual. and for what what they called specialty. occupations. >> And what kind of occupations would those.

be? So it might have been anything from. someone with tech skills uh right and. and like uh a lot of it was like about. mechanical or other engineering skills. and then IT or other development skills. and so out of the gate. >> okay hey we're moving into the digital. world everybody's in kind of that '9s. mindset and those were the types of. roles originally envisioned. >> learn to code and these are people who. already knew how to code so we need to. import them. >> exactly. >> huh how big a program was it at the. beginning. >> so when it started out the caps were.

much smaller. The caps are how many that. uh the government shall issue on an. annual basis. Um and I think it started. out at only 20,000 or so out of the gate. >> and then and I may have this wrong. I. think then expanded to 40,000. Right now. we are at 85,000 a year and we are at um. another there's a group that's called. capexempt universities, nonprofit. research institutions, government. affiliated research institutes. That. might be another 45, 55, 60,000.

every year. So the overall population. right now of people who are here on an. H1 visa, the visa, the government hasn't. done a total count in a while, but it's. estimated to be north of 700,000 people. >> The government hasn't done a count. So. they they run the program, they bring. people in, and then they don't keep. track of how many there are. >> Correct. Or like what I'll say running. total of those. And so what I what I. tell people is is if this was originally. a specific human being certified to do a.

specific job for this skill set that. apparently the American PE system does. not produce. What it has now become is. essentially just a foreign mobile labor. workforce. Right? And the output of that. very very clearly is the depression of. of of wages for for Americans. So over. the history of that program, let's just. say from 1990 when the H-1B was created, the estimate is it's above 3 million. people overall have been on those visas. over the history of that program. And so.

that impact on all the things that right. uh. we think about family formation for. Americans, right? The ability to um uh. grow your way up, right? So, not just. here's the 700,000 people who are. displacing Americans right now, but what. about 10 years ago? That person would be. moving into middle management, right? That is uh uh a good salary. Let's say. let's stay with computer uh development, right? Or or or computer science. That's.

a house in the suburbs for an American. That is kids in soccer. So like when I. think about the program, I don't just. think about the individual numbers, but. I think about the effect of now a. generation of of displacement. So. the conversation about immigration has. changed dramatically. So in 1924, the. United States basically ended. immigration into the country after. decades of historically high levels of. immigration, mostly from Eastern and.

Southern Europe. And there was a sense. that the country is getting volatile and. we need just a holding pattern for a. minute for things to settle, people to. assimilate, the country to become united. again. And that lasted until 1965. when Emanuel Seller, you know, passed. his famous heart seller act and the. country changed completely. But the. point is the pressure to stop. immigration in 1924 came from whom? Labor unions. Because immigration was. understood as a tool that employers used.

to depress the value of labor because if. you've got more of something, it's worth. less, right? Supply and demand. >> Then the conversation. became, and it kind of still is, about. race. And it was like, well, if you're. against immigration, you're a racist. And that was used, that slur was used as. cover by employers to continue doing. what they've always done, which is to. disempower labor, right? >> But there's nothing you could kind of. say because you were a racist and the.

labor unions, which are irrelevant now. and also complicit in this, went along. with it. >> Yeah. >> Am I missing it? >> No. Oh, and I and I and the evidence of. that is in a system that started again. for this this temporary uh uh supposed. need for individual position A or B, right? And the vice president talked. about this. He said all of these H-1B, all these other programs are just a. pathway to permanent residence. That's. all that they are, right? And so if the. answer was, hey, I had this individual. finite need as a company because I can't.

find it here and I'm willing to maybe. down the road invest in growing. Americans who can do that. That would be. one thing. But the reality of the. program is you get here, there are. student visa uh uh statuses that allow. people to work. You've got the H-1B and. they all flow into that eventual. permanent status. What is the evidence. of that? Uh about a year ago, they took. a survey of uh FHA back mortgages, right? And this is people think about. this in terms of North Texas where we've. seen this dramatic change. One in every. 17 FHA backed mortgages issued in this.

country two years ago was to someone. here on a temporary status. Was to a. foreigner here on a temporary status. >> Why would FHA federally backed be giving. taxpayer guaranteed mortgages to. foreigners? >> Because they knew that they were going. to be here because they knew the program. right was never really temporary. But. why would for sure Yeah. But why would. the other side of the federal government.

FHA be. >> doing this for people who are not. American citizens when American citizens. can't buy homes? >> Yeah. Uh there I don't think there is. any good reason and but fortunately this. administration has stopped that and. taken that down to zero as of I think uh. May or March 2025. Um and so the the way. that I look at that too, right? So if. you think about FHA in particular, it's. insidious because I mean that is how you. get your starter. home. Uh and so every time we we think. about this now, and this is to your. point, right, 1924, we came to this.

realization as a country. It is where I. think we're at the beginning of that. move movement. Maybe we're 100 years, right? Maybe we're two years behind. schedule, but what the American people, I think, are waking up to is that term. racist doesn't keep them quiet as much. anymore, right? that the great well of. um the great well of of well-being for. foreigners uh is running out. understanding that the asylum program. has been completely run through with. fraud and is illegitimate. Like we are.

catching up to. um the moment in terms of recognizing. that we're going to have to put. Americans first in some realistic. capacity. And so like when you think. about right all of the places that the. business community is is going to push. for these things. They they here's a. lobby that doesn't want to curb illegal. immigration. Here's another lobby that. just wants the agricultural workers, right? Uh here are the tech guys that. don't want to curb H-1B. I just think that like what they have to.

recognize is or let me put that more. simply, they just need to read the room. Like this movement is coming. um the restrictionist movement I think. is is going to continue to. >> there's a new justification for. continuing it. So I do think there's a. recognition that people are just the. idea that I complain about being. mistreated and I'm the bad guy for. complaining about being mistreated. My. kids can't get into college. My kids. can't get jobs. Shut up racist. Like I. think that's kind of over shut up. anti-semite or whatever they're calling. you. >> Y. >> now the justification is well it's of.

course we need it for tech and that's a. national security question. like we're. literally gonna get nuked unless we keep. Silicon Valley supplied with H-1Bs from. India. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they're kind of making that. case, right? Yeah. But I I think there's. been enough progress like the way that I. would suggest it is uh what we've seen. is moving against the program. I mean, they just suspended Microsoft from uh. the PERM program, right, which is the.

ability to recommend for green cards as. well as Adobe. Um, and you know, there's. been these what I'll call like other. investigations that are coming forward. um, under something called Project. Firewall that was announced by the. Department of Labor. Like for an. administration that is, you know, big. tech was part of that coalition coming. in in 2024. These are real moves that. are happening um, in terms of reigning. in this program or at least pushing it. back towards what it was originally. meant to be in statute. I might frame it. that way instead. Owning a home has.

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administered, there are levels um within. any occupation. So we'll just stick with. software developer because we've been. using that, right? So there's levels 1 2. 3 and four um and four being the highest. and it's theoretically tied to uh. different occupation skill and amount of. responsibility, one being the lowest. Uh. and then those are tied to a prevailing. wage. It's a percentile thing. um the. vast majority of the H-1B applications. are at those bottom two layers of the. experience route. Right? So everything. we hear the example I think the vice. president used this example of.

>> you know it's uh it's an American. accountant being replaced uh making 60k. a year being replaced by an Indian. accountant making 45k a year like the. program was largely concentrated at. those lower ends of the wage scale. >> and so the the idea that those were. skill sets that could not re be. replicated here in my opinion that. fiction has revealed itself as as no. longer ex right? Being the case and and. the reality of it is that's every.

program that eventually uh uh succumbs. to institutional capture over time. The. idea that you know, hey, a program that. was originally meant to be for. specific specialty field is now a a. function of labor depression. It's a way. to keep wages low. Um let me suggest. too, right? So there's the the program. perm, which is where you get move over. to get the green cards. Um the answer. there is you're supposed to have you're. supposed to prove that you tried to hire. Americans and everybody knows that.

that's been it's not really happening. right and they put ads these companies. will put ads in ethnic newspapers and. all these things but people are shocked. that that's happening and my point is no. the purpose of the system is to get. foreign labor over here uh uh to service. cheap labor for these companies. Of. course that that check is not well. manufactured. it would defeat the. purpose of the program which was to. bring people over here to do these jobs. And so when I think about like H1B as a. labor depression mechanism, there have.

been a variety of studies, right? And. and and to be fair, some studies say, hey, the overall boon to economic growth. uh balances itself out in some other. way. Maybe that exists, but the average. H-1B worker, I saw a recent statistic. that was makes $19,000 less than an. American doing a comparable job. Um, and. there are others that say it's about. $10,000 less. So, you have two things. happening. You have a program that is. now concentrated at the lower end of the.

labor scale for jobs that are clearly by. no real stretch of the imagination um, specialty. And then you also have um. them being paid less despite the. prevailing wage rules and that undercuts. the ability of Americans in those same. jobs to advocate more effectively for. for increases. So these are not like we're not. importing nuclear engineers. Correct.

Right. >> Yep. So once people are here, so let's. say I own a business in the United. States and I'm importing people on. visas, foreigners um on visas. How many of those visas do I get? Well, if you are there's a couple different. types. So if you are looking at H-1B, you can apply for as many as as as you. want. Um and and again, they issue. 85,000 or so a year. And then there's a. bunch of existing ones where if someone.

is here on an H-1B status, they can. transfer to a new employer. So you can. collect another one that way and it. doesn't count against your your cap. Um, but the way to think about what you were. talking about is the employers want to. bring these folks on. It's really just a. supply chain of of cheap foreign labor. It starts at the university level. There's something called the curricular. uh practical training. It is the right. for a student here on an F1 visa to work. uh uh in the United States while they.

are an undergrad, while they are a. student. Right? And the program we can. talk about is is is. extremely corrupt, but here's an easy. way to think about it. You are a. university. You advertise this ability. to eventually work as as as part of the. way you get students here. That employer. hires that foreign student. It's no. visa. It's just a status that exists as. a subunction of your F1. That employer. gets to hire that student and not pay. FICA taxes on that student, 7.65%. So.

they are immediately cheaper than hiring. an American student for that job. The. foreign student themselves does not pay. FICA taxes. So they are taking home more. of their paycheck than the American. student working directly next to them. >> What? Yeah. And then you're the. university. you get to charge that full. freight tuition to that foreign student. that our universities have become so. addicted to. And so that is the. beginning of a supply chain of foreign.

labor. >> Why does the That is totally crazy. They. don't have to pay FICA, which for people. at the low end of the labor scale is. often higher than your income taxes. >> Correct. >> Your FICA taxes are higher than your. federal taxes. >> Yep. And so the idea is they're here. temporarily so they don't have to in in. those student. >> But why would you give an advantage to. non-citizens in the labor market? >> Yeah. Well, well, every because. everybody involved in two answers. The. easier one is because our Congress is is. is and even though that program is not. in statute, but our Congress is is uh.

addict, you know, bought by interests. who are addicted to cheap labor. But the. easier answer, why does that program. exist the way it does? Is because every. incentive points at it continuing. The. university benefits, the foreign student. benefits, and the company benefits. >> There's no institution in American life. that's more corrupt than the. universities. Correct. It's the medieval. church. >> Yeah. Sodomy in the pews, you know, it's. like totally corrupt. >> Yeah. They Well, and not only that, the. universities get the J1 visas, which I. think Vance called out, which is which. is uh exchange visas that are issued.

>> And so then they employ these these. posttock and these researchers. And so. they can have those individuals. Then. they have the curricular training. program. I'm sorry, the curricular. practical training, all that they're. finding is ways to not employ Americans. And everybody you talk to who works at a. university over the past 15 or 20 years. has talked about the cultural change. just within the actual um working for. the administration because they've been. able to so successfully depress wages. here. >> Um so then there's another program, if I.

can keep going, called the optional. practical training. This is generally. for people who have now graduated. So. you come over here, you're on CPT. Now. you graduate. You again, no visa issued. yet. This is preH1B, can work for 12 months. If you're STEM, you get a you can have a 24-month. extension. So you graduate from college, you get that first job. Let's say it's a. great paying job. It's a hundred $1,000.

a year. You're still not paying FICA. So. to an employer who's picking from. college graduates, right? There are. about 2 million of those every year. We. issued 290,000. of these OPT uh um uh registrations this. year. So, of our 2 million graduates, and there's another maybe 800 or or a. million of associate degrees, but let's. just say the pool is 2 million, 290,000. foreign graduates authorized to work in.

the United States just last calendar. year competing against our American. graduates. You could take a mad. scientist a and tell them, "Come up with. a program to maximally disadvantage. American students who you mentioned. earlier. We told go learn the code, move. your way up this economic value chain. This is like this is what they would. come up with. So that company is again. saving 7.65% out of the gate. The. foreign student is taking home more of. their paycheck than the American. student. And the university has gotten.

to advertise this as part of their. package to attract again additional. foreign students at four full freight. So the whole point of the universities I. thought was to exist as the engine of. advancement for ambitious smart. Americans. That was I thought that was. the whole point of the GI Bill and the. whole point of the meritocracy that we. built post war. >> was we use standardized testing to. identify the smart ambitious people. We. funnel them into these universities and. they work their way up the ladder to.

manage our country and our empire. >> Yep. >> And that was all a lie. Turns out people. feel this intuitively by the way. I. think they do, but you're describing the. mechanics of it, which are really dark. >> Yeah. >> So, how hard would it be to end that? >> So, that program, as as a lot of folks. know who who have been keyed in, and I. think Senator Eric Smith's been involved. here, that program is not prescribed in. statute. Uh, it is something that exists via DHS. regulation. So what the administration has done is.

uh and I follow this stuff not because. I'm affiliated with them but just. because I I am just a restrictionist. immigration sort of fan and and there's. been a lot of movement. uh what they. have done is is uh announced. uh as a regulation. uh a fee and a lot of folks may be. familiar there's a $100,000 fee and we. can talk about that imposed last year. via presidential proclamation for H1B. and it got struck down it was in effect. last cap season the OPT fee is being.

proposed now through like the formal. notice and comment program etc etc and. uh they're proposing that for Every. single one of those issued, the. university, not the employer, the. university will have to pay $70,000. And then for anybody where they want to. exercise the 24-month extension for the. graduate, I'm sorry, for the STEM. graduate, it's another $30,000. And so the idea here is to say to the. universities, you no longer have a.

chance to um if you're going to use this. as a recruiting mechanism, which is. really what it is. And again, everybody. in that little circle benefits. That investment needs to be worth you. paying $70,000, whether you pass that on. to the employer or you find another way. to recoup it. And then what I think the. administration probably learned from is. what happens if they can't collect that. fee. And so essentially in the. regulation what they wrote is if you if. we are unable to collect this fee due to.

lawsuit or injunction or any other court. action it will harm our ability to um. effectively administer the program given. the risk of fraud that that has been. discovered at various points in the. program and then the administration will. retain the right to kill the entire OPT. program. Um, and so it's a smart way. that they've written it to kind of last. When you look at some of the term one. stuff that got struck down kind of at. the end of of Trump's term one, a lot of. what they're building now around uh um.

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country at all and people said wait a. second this is a public university that. we support with our tax dollars state. and federal. >> and why is it filled with people who. aren't from the United States and the. answer as always was shut up racist. including from all the Republicans in. the Texas delegation who I hope all lose. soon along with their Democratic. friends. But anyway, I think that's a real question. These. are for us. These universities, we pay. for them. We built them. They're ours.

Why are they being maintained for the. rest of the world? Like, how did that. happen? >> Yeah. Well, I mean, I I. >> Your kids can't get in, >> correct? >> But people from other countries can. Like, what is that? >> Yeah. I I look at it as is is in two. different lenses. And I'll answer that a. little more specifically. So one, I I I. see the universities as black rockck as. these other they are they are entirely. institutionally captured. Half of them. not the public ones as much but have. endowments that insulate them from any. real pressure. >> which are not taxed.

>> You're correct. Right. So they get. >> How are their endowments not taxed? I. >> I don't know. Think about that. Non- tax. endowments J1 visa so that they can have. you. >> get taxed. >> Uh I sure do. Okay. uh uh J1 visas so. that they can bring over these posttock. researchers, underpay them. No, no. pretense even of a prevailing wage of. pretending to hire an American. None of. that exists in the J1 program. And then. the CPT program, curricular uh uh. practical training for undergrad labor. Um no pretense that they had to hire an. American, no prevailing wage, like none.

of these controls are built into a lot. of these other visas. And so the. universities are are are as ruthless as. any right caricature we have of a. private equity firm or any of these. other things. And and they have moved. away from serving uh uh the American. people. And what I sense like so last. week I went and talked to um uh the. Texas Young Republicans group and they. were fired up and and and the week. before I was in Knoxville I talked to a. group of young Republicans there. They. understand very intuitively and are.

speaking explicitly about the fact that. these institutions are no longer for. them. They understand entirely that. they're going to have to build from. scratch, right? And so there is both. that what I'll call the tech bro model. I got to go start my own thing, but that. feels devoid of meaning to to a lot of. them. And so what I what I see is there. is a need. the young men understand that the. universities uh uh have no stake in. their future will hate them. Exactly.

And and teach people that that hate is. the right thing. I remember that when I. was in in in undergrad and and hearing. from people. Uh I remember literally uh. I was on a college I was in I went to. Penn State and um I didn't know uh about. all of that antagonism necessarily. And. somebody I knew for a very long time. said, "Well, of course you would think. that way. You're a white male." And I I. like blanched. I I didn't know that that. was I didn't know that we were dividing. ourselves that way. And so I I I.

remember the beginning of that culture. sort of right back then. But so what. what I've learned from these young men. that I've been looking. >> and it's not just an attitude. It's it's. encoded in admission standards. >> Correct. >> Like people are it's Jim Crow at scale. >> But with the federal government backing. at this time, not just the government of. Mississippi and Georgia. >> That is correct. >> Yeah. Know I'm ve highly aware it's. still in place by the way amazingly. But. um I don't understand why that's allowed.

to continue. >> Yeah. I don't have a good answer for. that. I here's the way that I look at. it. Right. I believe that we are at the. beginning of this kind of realignment or. or or awakening that we have. And and I. mean that like let me see if I can. express this outside of the partisan. binary because I'm still I was in DC and. I'm plugged into X and I drink the. Kool-Aid sometimes. we are in the be we. are at the beginning of a realignment. where I in my brain these things seem. obvious to me but I realized that like.

we haven't actually won the argument yet. um and so all of the things where we go. wait a second why did we just tolerate. that for 30 years you kind of shake. yourself out of that stuper but we're at. the very beginning of that and so the. realignment that I have when you when. you notice something like that that is. obviously corrupt and obviously why. would we permit that the old incentive. structures that were there are still. exerting influence right there or or. from a pure electoral perspective 2024. it was a big tent that got the president.

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multi-racial, even multi. multi-religious. That's all possible. Multicultural is. not possible. There's a dominant culture. and every other culture is subsumed into. it or destroyed. Period. That's just the. way people are. So, you know, someone's in a culture is in. charge. You have a culture. >> And uh so you either assert yours. because you think it's worth saving or. you lose it. Period. >> And it's not the same as race, but. whatever. No, I I strongly agree with.

you. I also wonder like can I just ask. you about AI really because I think it's. connected to service. >> So AI is you know the the hope of the. American economy. and the biggest companies in the country. are all in. They're leveraged for I mean. they just put everything into AI. AI. doesn't produce a ton of revenue but the. hope is that it'll be the great driver. of revenue in the American economy. Where's that money coming from? That. money is effectively the future of.

American young people. They won't have. jobs and that savings is the revenue. that these companies are banking on, right? It's a laborsaving. >> technology. That's what it is. >> So, I don't understand how you could. import anybody into your country on an. H-1B or any other kind of visa, legal or. illegal, with that looming on the. horizon. Like what the hell is going no. one noticing this? Yeah. And nobody's. going to have a job, but we're still. importing people. Like what are they.

going to do? >> Yeah. And I think that that is when you. look at some of the actions that have. been taken uh by the administration. Uh. and and I'll name a couple here in a. second. The goal right now, what they've. achieved is to move at least that visa. program in particular H-1B back up the. labor chain, right? And away from the. the jobs that let's say let's suggest. are more likely to be swept away by. that. But let me answer that more. broadly because I don't want to cheat on. my answer is. what we're seeing right now is I think. the American people are waking up to. that and to my point recognizing that.

nobody will advocate for it and my like. right politicians are are a function of. the Overton window that the culture. presents for them and so uh like if you. look at what Brandon Gil is introducing. in Congress what what Crane or Self or. Chip Roy there is an H-1B reform bill it. doesn't go far enough but it's the first. major thing in many years. I think we're. at the beginning of a realignment where. the American people are saying like this. you you will either put us first or we. will be displaced. There's no longer an. in between or or I use a phrase we will.

have mass deportation or we will have. mass importation. There's no longer a. third option available to us. Right? Uh. uh um our our our political opponents. and by that I'm not presum I say our. typically I'm talking to to Republican. groups. They say our political opponents. have decided that for us because they. are committed to the wholesale. industrial importation of of people into. this country. So we will have one of. those two. So when I think about like AI. if it's going to start to move its way. up that value chain with these. replicable tasks etc. Right? I think.

about what the administration did in in. I'll call it the first year. Uh so H-1B. you have all of these uh uh lottery. tickets, right? And so and then that's. how they pull to get to the uh the. 85,000 cap. So there there is a a system. in place where you submit that and it it. used to be more robust, but essentially. what you do is you put in someone's. name, their passport information. We. need this employee because they have. this irreplicable skill set, you know, all out of the same country, right? Uh.

and then we put a $100,000 fee. It was. via presidential pro proclamation. currently blocked by the courts. So. $100,000. for any of these to be awarded to a. company. So that company now has to. decide am I willing to spend uh $100,000. to have this person for three years. And. by the way, H-1B is for three years. It. always gets extended for the next three. and then most of the time then it gets. turned into what's called PERM. And so a. green card application. So you get.

essentially it's till infinity is what. it really means. But the company has to. decide that. Um, and what we found is. that and and that was for new, it was. for a company to bring over somebody new. into the country to have an H-1B uh um. uh visa issued to them. Uh, and what we. found is that nobody was really willing. to pay that. 700 companies uh 700. positions overall. That's all that. that's all that were filled under this. new $100,000 fee that was in effect in.

the last what's called cap season or. lottery season. Um so so and I'll talk. in a minute about where all those folks. went to but there was a second thing. that was initiated right and it was. called the wage weighted lottery system. So if you are a level one which is let's. say within that uh software developer. skill set you are someone towards the. lower end of that experience level and. skill set etc. you have to be paid 17 at. the 17th percentile uh uh um of that. entire occupation and then there's. different prevailing wage levels. Well,

that's where all the outsourcers were. coming in. They were sweeping up at. level one and level two and displacing. again Americans for jobs that were. clearly in no way specialized. Uh. Vance's accountant example. >> Yeah. >> So, what the administration did is said, "Well, level one is now worth one. lottery entry. A level two is worth two. A level three is worth three. A level. four is worth four." So they drastically. changed the scale of how these will be. awarded saying if right if you have a. level three or a level four.

theoretically work that you could argue. is more specialized or at least is not. displacing people who are on a on a on a. more vulnerable end of the labor scale. Um and and it worked but not maybe as. much as we wanted to but it it drove the. percentage of those up towards those. level three and four by 20 or 30%. So, so not a perfect fix, but but real. progress. And then what happened? I. mentioned the $100,000 fee because that. one got some media attention. Uh.

companies weren't willing to pay to. bring somebody new in at that cost. because it defeats the entire purpose of. the outsourcers whose job it is is just. to traffic in these these lower-end. jobs. So, uh, one that's that's become. somewhat infamous, they're based in New. Jersey, is called Cognizant. Cognizance. number of H-1B applications that cap. season declined 100%. Uh TCS I think it was Tata Consultancy. Services 97%. Like it just it. discouraged them from trying to take. advantage of that lower end of the labor.

market. And uh but these things got. filled right. We still filled 85,000. So. where did they come from? They came from. largely the existing um uh student. population that I mentioned earlier. OPT, those graduates who are already. here on an F1 visa, they can transfer to. an H-1B. And so that's how they filled all those. jobs, the the the majority of them. And. so what the administration is now doing. so, but I would argue, by the way, that. that in itself was still a public good.

Here's why. Because we did not at least. by tens of thousands increase the size. of the foreign labor pool that's. competing with American workers, right? Um so here's what the administration. then is doing. I think this was in. September. They they are now recommending a a new. fee and this one is through the notice. and comment period. All the right. regulatory stuff boxes are being checked. and so they said okay this we estimate. that this costs federal agencies and. departments about 8 and 8.8 billion uh a. year to run the program to administer.

the program or cost to the government. whatever that was. We're going to divide. that by 85,000 and we're going to charge. companies $103,000. for every single H-1B awarded. Not just. new people coming in, but anything that. fills that cap to include people who are. on the student side. And so the idea. here is we're going to limit the amount. of new foreign labor coming in under. this mechanism which does exist in. statute and then we are going to limit. the main feeder of individuals who were.

here from students uh uh uh uh that feed. into the H1B and then companies can. decide do they have a truly special or. truly unique person shut it down. >> Well I want that too and and quite. frankly. >> what is this? >> Yeah. Well well my the argument I think. is and Vance said the same thing. He. goes, "If it was up to me, I would just. shut it down." Right now, >> right now, H-1B is is in statute and uh. and and it literally says shall issue up. to the cap. So, it's not an argument. I. I want the whole say no.

>> I mean, no one else obeys the law around. immigration. The illegal aliens don't. You try to deport them and all these. NOS's, Soros funded NOS's like stage a. riot. It's like, okay, the only people. obeying the rules are the people who are. getting shafted. >> Yeah. I And and I I explicitly make the. argument as it relates to illegal. immigration that uh we're going to have. to be willing to defy the courts. Um. because because illegal immigration is. at this point so clearly the purview of. the executive, right? Or what we'll call.

immigration enforcement. And and Barack. Obama guaranteed that with DACA and. DAPA. And we we've just seen that. demonstrated, right? I know. Um, my. argument is we are at the beginning of. the movement as it relates to legal. immigration of people waking up to what. needs to happen and that this program. you could argue is still what I would. call within the scope of our normal. politics, right? That the that that that. the legislature owns this, the. administration is working within the. boundaries that it can to to limit it. Um, let me give one quick example, but I.

I want to get back to that broader point. about legal versus illegal because I was. actually going to highlight that. disconnect that I have here. I think. it's justifiable is the other thing too. is people can hop. You get here on H1B, you can hop between employers, right? So, so uh. >> the whole thing feels like a scam set up. to screw American young people. That's. that's the way it looks to me. >> Yeah. The way to think about it, right, is the whole point is for these. companies to have a cheap foreign labor. force. It is to pay a Delhi salary in. Dallas. That's all that this is. And so. all of the mechanis fine if our young.

people were thriving, but they're. increasingly radical. All they get is. like a lecture. Stop being so radical. Yep. >> You're watching X too much. It's like, well, maybe they're radical for a. reason. Happy people are not radical. Correct. They're moderate. >> Correct. And and what I've always said, and this is about folks on the left and. the right, is when someone tells you. what they believe, just believe what. they just told you. Right. And so when I. talk to young men who are like. we're your generation needs to handle. this or we're prepared, right? Like. those things I I believe them. I.

believed Bernie Sanders when he called. for a political revolution. I believe. DSA members when they say they want to. essentially dismantle the Constitution. Um so what I tell people is what I. describe as the mechanics and each of. those individually are surprising. They. are not surprising when you realize the. whole purpose of it is just to get a. giant uh um foreign cheap labor force. here. I mentioned it's about 700,000. right now in the country overall, maybe. higher for H1B and OPT itself is. 290,000. So you're talking at least a. million people in our country who are.

here competing against Americans for. jobs, the vast majority of of which are. not specialized in any any real. capacity. Um, what I also tell people is. even if all those people were not. explicitly taking American jobs, the. point is they are depressing the wages. for everybody, not just the individual. software developer who got laid off at. 32, forced to train his replacement, and. now can't find a job, right? And that. family is destroyed. They're they're. depressing the wages uh for everybody.

Well, and they're also changing. everyone's attitudes. Like you, our. schools are terrible. Even our good. schools are absurd. They're not real and. everyone knows that and so we just rely. on other countries to invest in their. young people. >> We we think that India does a better job. with STEM than we do which probably. true. >> So we just let India educate them and. then bring them in. >> Yep. >> So okay, but there's no incentive to fix. our schools for our young people. When. was the last time you heard any rich.

liberal talk about our schools? They. don't care about our schools anymore. They used to care about remember rich. liberal ladies used to be like our. schools. Well, okay, that's a fair. point. >> They never mention our schools anymore. because they don't care because they. don't have to care. >> Does that make sense? >> No, it does. There's no investment in. our young people, even beyond just the. wages, because there doesn't need to be. >> Yeah. And and if you think about it, like the when I think about the left or. liberals, let me frame it that way. I. go, it used to at least be that there. were articulable elements of a program. that I could identify. >> Exactly.

>> Yeah. And and now the. >> whether or not they worked, we could at. least like at least they had Head Start, which like suggested Head Start was. designed to raise the IQ of urban. children. That's why it started. You can. look it up. 1965. And that was a real problem. The IQ of. urban kids was too low to participate in. our economy. That's real. It's still. true. >> But it didn't work. So they're just. like, we're just going to ignore it and. we'll import other people from South. Asia. But that's not actually an answer. to the problem that still exists. >> Yeah. and and and think about Chuck. Schumer a couple weeks ago just laid it.

out there, right? And and it's funny. because the the the liberals, they're. they're very explicit sometimes about. the fact that they just want to bring. everybody in and then other times they. realize, oh, we shouldn't say that out. loud, right? It was demographics, right? You get that. But Schumer said, "We have. to uh bring these people in because. there are communities where people. aren't having enough children and and we. need the economic, right?" And France. makes that same argument. And I say, "So. there is no proposal to give people hope. or to invest in economic policies that. would aid in family formation or to just. do any of those things." Exactly. And.

and my argument is like. >> our my political opponents have have. embraced a post nationalism that like it. is hard for us to understand that that. era is now here. I I used to um. >> hard to say what era. >> that that like that a significant. non-minor percentage of of the American. population of our fellow citizens have. embraced uh uh a globalist mindset have. explicitly cast allegiance with with. foreigners like I remember I used to um. >> which is to say they they don't care at.

all about their countrymen at all. >> Correct. I mean, they find the idea of. nationalism itself, right? Uh uh. >> yeah, but it's one of those ideas that's. impulse. It's not even an idea that's. dressed up as progressive, forward. thinking, inclusive, when in fact its. core is hate and resentment of their. fellow Americans. Like they're. disappointed in their fellow Americans. They hate them. They No one hates them. more than Chuck Schumer. Of course, no. one. And he said it many, many times. But but it's a common view. And then.

they're like, "No, no, no. this is. progressive. It's like you don't even. care about the people living down the. street from you. That's called hatred. actually. >> And and if you think about it this way, right? So we talked about here's the. tech here's here's where all the tech. money is. Here's where the here's where. the Chuck Schumers are. And I say, okay, so. you don't want to train us and you don't. have any plan at any other phase of. people's lives to make it better. And. and I just go, what is going to have to. happen when we say you just kind of have. like why aren't why aren't we enough?

Why why do you not why are you not okay. just with the people who are here? Can. we endeavor to make their lives better? And so like to me that is what the. realignment is going to be. >> No, but we can monitor them. And then. the tech that we're getting is what like. flock cameras and you can't have a wife, but you can have like an AI chatbot and. more realistic pornography and create. them at the grocery at the convenience. stores. It's like. none of this there's I don't see the. upside at all. Like where is the upside? >> Yeah. Well, and and there isn't and it's. and it's not sustainable, right? All of.

the every element of that modern life. that you talked about, right? >> It is a it is a a cope for the next. thing that you have to cope with for the. next thing you have like none of it is. sustainable. And so, >> but they're not even promising a. beautiful future. They're not even. bothering to lie to me. >> Yeah. >> Right. Promise me Eden anyway. Even if. you're going to deliver me the Bedford. Styver, at least tell me it's going to. be great. But they don't even care. enough. No, but I think for the Chuck. Schumers, what they offer is the the the. thing that they are signaling to the. thing that he is signaling to his base.

is that you can, you know, forget about. that that old school version of people. You can come up here and be one of the. shiny, right, shiny happy people if you. think about his party as a deal between. the super super elite and the dependent. class below them, right? And and and and. they've abandoned kind of everybody in. the middle. The way that I and the way. that I think about that is like. >> you think they're playing with fire with. this. They're going to make people super. radical. They are making people super I. can feel it. >> Yes. >> I mean all my Spidey senses are alert to.

this that people are getting radical. >> The risk that they are the risk is they. are by by failing to be that responsive. Right. We had we had an election in. 2024. >> Yeah. >> For the first time in a long time in. that. >> there we go. Right. There was a night of. decision that hadn't happened in a. while. Right. Um. >> and and the goal was we're going to get. rid of everybody. All legal aliens are. going home. Here's what we're going to. do. And if that if we can't deliver on. that, if if if if and and and I'll make.

an argument, right, that when we saw our. fellow citizens uh take to the streets, endeavor to physically uh obstruct. federal law enforcement from enforcing. the law at scale in different cities. Um. if that is sufficient, if the street. veto is sufficient for the federal. government not to follow through and. execute on that policy, >> you mean mob rule, >> right? Right. Is what we saw, right? We. saw we saw people abandoning essentially. rejecting the the results of the. election in any practical sense and.

saying we refuse to allow the federal. government to exercise authority here as. it relates to immigration, which was. like the key issue, right, in in the. entire election. Then the government. loses legitimacy. you forget about a. far-off census argument or a demog like. that lack of responsiveness is the. legitimacy crisis that things start to. unravel much much faster than we think. But I I mean we've lived with this for. decades. The sanctuary city is.

defiance of federal law. >> Mhm. >> Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to. Central High School in Little Rock in. 1957 because they were defying federal. law. court order, Brown versus Board of. Education three years before. >> Y. >> and on principle, you just can't allow. that or else is this really a country? No, it's not. >> right. >> But we've been allowing that for I don't. know 40 years, something like that. We're just I don't know. Tucson doesn't. want to participate in the. >> right. >> in federal law. Like what? And. everyone's allowed that. So at this.

point, can you actually enforce federal. law nationally? >> Well, and we don't know, right? The. >> doesn't seem like it. >> Yeah. where we are is at a at at a. precarious point which is right and. forget about we live in an era of. political assassinations all those other. things right I I we think our I think. our political union is straining at its. boundaries but the great test of of of. the immediate term. >> is does federal law apply across the. land or not and if you think about that. the the the need the test the the.

exercise before us is can we recapture. American sovereignty. and there there's no way to do that that. doesn't involve sacrifice or great. national effort. And and the answer is. we we just don't know yet. And and you. said so you said, well, hey, it's we let. this happen for 40 years, right? And and. and every American uh uh is in some way. implicit. We allowed uh uh this kind of. permanent underclass of people to exist. here, right? And.

but if I if us saying it isn't enough. isn't enough, I'm sorry, if us saying. it's enough isn't enough, then we have a. problem. I I I I was talking to uh a few. friends and I said, "Look, I don't need. to look down on Indians or Haitians or. Somali. The reason these people have to. go home is cuz we said so." And. if that isn't enough, then the. government Right. Exactly. and and but. very literally to your point, whose. country is it? We have a a a a the I.

think about the phrase uh replacement. theory. Okay. And and and I said some to. somebody recently, I said, um well, Republicans have to stop using the. phrase replacement theory. And they. agreed with me, but not for the reason. you said, "No, yes, of course, we can't. get tied up." And I said, "No, no, no. The Ugandanborn mayor of New York City. called for the end of federal. immigration. enforcement in the largest city in our. country. That's not theoretical anymore.

Right. Chuck Schumer is telling. >> we have census numbers every 10 years. And so anyone who calls it a theory. >> Exactly. >> is participating in a lie. It's not a. theory. >> Yes. >> Look at the numbers. I was born in 1969. Let's just plot it out from 1969. Has. the population in the country in 1969. been replaced by a new population? What. percentage of people living in the. United States say had an ancestor in the. Civil War? >> Right? So anyway, maybe you think that's great. Maybe you think it's terrible. Maybe I. don't know who whatever you think of it.

to deny that it happened is a lie. And. so like let's not participate in lies. How's that? >> Yeah. And also like you the most. important part here you said whose. country is it right? The the the reality. is. the control of it. who will end up. owning it is right now up for grabs. Let. me let me suggest why I'm arguing it. that way. Uh AOC or or some other uh you know uh. what I will call someone who is unlikely. to be more moderate than Joe Biden may. have the presidency in 26 27 months.

Does anybody believe that. any of the 3 million or so outstanding. asylum cases will be adjudicated under. them? Of course not. they will be Biden. they were given a six-year outc court. date uh a work permit and a free ID it. wasn't it was a pretense right it was. abuse of the system uh uh for their goal. again they they've gone under the law um. so none of those people if a Democrat. comes office none of those cases will.

ever be heard and I don't think anybody. rationally thinks that they will be. they'll be mass adjudicated okay so that. happens. everybody who's here. what it means to be an illegal alien. they are deliberately blurring it, right? Kathy Hokll, the governor, said, "This is a um a working man, right, when. there was someone who was shot." All. these things. So, so all of the rights. and privileges that were unique to your. citizenship, right, are being. distributed at a stateby-state level. Um. I think the high water mark recently. because they used to talk about the.

ability for illegal aliens to vote in. municipal elections and that to me is. just so alarming. Um but and here's all. the benefits that they can sign up for. But but in Illinois, you can be a police. officer. You can even, I think, be a. deputy sheriff if you were an illegal. alien. You could get arrested by an. illegal alien right now as an American. citizen in in Illinois. Um, and the. courts have walked back some of this, but that they're not going to save us. So, my point is what it means to even be. an illegal alien, they are deliberately. blurring that, right? And so, if we have. two years, my planning horizon, that's.

why I think, right, our politics can be. handle can handle the legal immigration. issue that I've been advocating for for. a long time for for it to be seized. I. think our politics will get there. But. illegal immigration, our political. opponents have so abandoned the law that. what we will have to then resort to to. get this done will itself have to. involve those types of compromises. Yeah. I mean, I can't overstate the. bitterness I feel when I hear all of. that because, you know, we just wasted it all for war.

with Iran. It's really it's the it's the. most bitter thing I have ever seen in my. entire life. That's how I feel about it. But anyway, sorry. >> Well, can I jump in? So, what I tell. people, so I I have I'm arguing in in. reasonably public uh uh uh areas that we. need to hire 250,000 people in the next. uh uh after the midterms and build. what's called a civilian deportation. core. And and the and I'm not here to. give a full pitch on that, but what I. mean is I have to believe we can still.

do it in the next two years. I have to. believe that we will not hand the. country back over to a Democrat without. this problem acted upon significantly. because if we do it the the definition. forget about the sense the definition of. citizenship will splinter beyond repair. All of those individual rights that are. being granted to legal aliens across the. country are strengthening into a real. right now parallel rights regime. And so. to your point whose country is it? It.

might not be ours if that happens. >> Of course, if you feel that way, >> take all of that splintering and you add. uh you know a Newsome or an AOC who adds. another 10 or 15 million people back in. or or in um how do we recover that? The. unit if the unitary definite of. citizenship splinters, there is no good path forward as a. country and nor do we have really have a. model for that. Um we don't know what to. do. I think Americans don't know what to. do with that information right now. Um,

and so what I think is there is a path. forward and what I hope is it will. become more clear as the prospect of. handing that power back over comes into. sharper relief. And the answer is we. stop seeing the American people as a. political audience to be abided by or to. be placated. And we say the. reestablishment of our sovereignty is. going to be exceptionally painful. >> Um, we need you to be part of doing it. And so the linear expansion of. traditional enforcement capacity, all. the all the capacity building that was.

here is good, but the numbers were never. going to get close to where we needed. them to. It's just DHS literally it. can't do it on its own. And so what I. what I say is we bring the American. people along on this journey and we say, "Help us from a logistics capacity. Pick. up an extra shift as a nurse. Let's go. door to door. We know where these legal. aliens are. even the ones that didn't. come across. We could buy two dozen. individual commercial database. indicators and just I want to directly. communicate with these people. Shatter. the illusion to them that they've seen. the high water mark of enforcement. Text.

them. Send them DMs. We know who you. are. We're going to be at the post. office. >> Why don't go after the employers? >> Um I think we should, but I don't. actually think that will be sufficient. on its own. >> really. Uh yeah, I think I think what. right now what we're seeing uh uh are. all necessary pieces of what I think. will be an insufficient pie. Here's why. So So and by the way, work site. enforcement would be probably the. individual single biggest leverage thing. we could do. um it would it would it. would remove that incentive, but we. could remove that person's job and we.

could cut them off from certain federal. benefits, but they probably still. qualify for three other state benefits. and a county benefit and the nonprofit. down the street that's helping them. and Sierra Leone isn't going to become. that much more attractive to them just. because we've cut off some of those. things or Haiti or pick your c country. Um, so in my opinion, we're we're going. to have to and and again, you sense that. if you get through the next 27 months. and a Democrat wins, you're never you're. never going anywhere. Everybody knows.

that. And so my argument is the physical. removal of millions of people uh is is. unavoidable. And the sooner we get. serious about doing that at scale, both. in terms of building that physical. infrastructure, but also in. communicating that we're going to build. it, the more chance we have of people. voluntarily leaving and leaving in these. other ways that will be less disruptive. But um I think the if we do this the way. that I I want us to, which is to hire. all these people, it it is it is to.

bring the American people along, but. also because it won't get done any any. other way. If if there isn't enough. support for this that 250,000 Americans. sign up, we were never going to survive. it politically anyway. The model of. doing it the way that it's happening now. isn't going to isn't going to marshall. that support. There's some smart things. you could do communications wise to. sustain the Overton window, but we're. not actually asking enough of the. American people in terms of uh having. them help kind of deliver on this this. mandate.

>> Well, they tried something like that. with ICE. How'd that go? >> Uh well, I think what ICE actually. accomplished is. very few agencies have done anything at. that scale in. >> Did public support for deportation go up. or down? It went down. >> It did and and it's remained fairly. steady. But my argument is this is what. I'm saying is the DHS alone approach. is is is part of it. What I want what I. want ICE to do and there's serious. hardworking people right there working. till 10 p.m. every night um and and and.

dealing with all the threats and all the. vitrial. I want them to keep enforcing. at the scale that they are. And and and. my argument is that exact model cannot. be the only face of the effort. I'm. talking about a a civic effort, right, that enlists Americans to do this. So, did did public support go up or down? It. went down and in and then stabilized and. has remained relatively there or a. little bit higher. But, um, what I'm. saying is don't just think of the. American people from a poll numbers. perspective. Bring them into this.

physically. Bring them into so the ICE. effort I mean I think most people even. most Democrats like no a country should. have control of its borders. I mean, what's a country? It's a physical place. that has territorial integrity and. that's a non-controversial point. Now. whether you know how you go about it, whether you humane and doing it, you. know there's a lot of subjective. elements here, but conceptually people. are for this. It didn't work because there were. massive organized violent efforts to.

prevent it that were paid for not by. grassroots support from Americans but by. a small number of rich people who are. totally committed to the status quo. >> Y. >> the Soros NGO world. Okay. That's a criminal enterprise that. is thwarting federal law. And there have been no arrests of any of. those people just as there was never one. arrest of anyone who funded the. destruction of the Midwest during the. BLM riots. So like what.

why is that different from a drug cartel. or the mafia or any organized criminal. organization that's like hurting my. country? But there's been no effort to. hold any of those groups to account. >> Yeah. I I think there's two things. I. think I don't think America knows how to. what happened in Minneapolis was the. single largest um anti-federal uprising. in you know I don't know decades as long. as I've been alive right. >> let's just say since the Civil War since. Fort Sumpter because it seems that way. >> right and so my argument is we no one. knows what to do with that yet um.

>> we have RICO statutes don't we. >> yeah but but but I just mean literally. I'm talking more about people don't know. how to process that information what. here's what I here's an example I tell. people right there still a significant. number of American people think of think. that there were it was um that. Minneapolis uh that that we were treated. there because of protests. Like I and so. what I tell people is a a protester. doesn't stalk a federal agent at an. airport um feed their license plate to a. source in the local PD, I don't know, go.

to their hotel and break windows and and. then threaten their wives on Facebook. It was right. So we don't yet know. I I. what I'm saying is as a country, we are. waking up to figuring out how to deal. with that. So your name, >> but the DOJ exists to deal with that and. they haven't. They ignored it. And. that's what I find so baffling. It's. like it wasn't that a bunch of rich. white housewives like, I feel sorry for. the illegals. I'm going to go out and. stalk ICE agents at an airport Marriott. That's not what happened. It's an. organized group paid to do this from.

outside of the state flew in there to do. it. It's like who paid for that and why? And why can't we know? And why aren't. they indicted? >> But they're not. So like why? >> Yeah. I I don't know. Um I where the way. that I kind of process it and I really. mean that. I don't know. Um the way that. I kind of process this all is um there. was anti-ICE violence starting back in. 2013 2014. People forget that. And there. were exactly right. And then people. physically endeavoring to prevent.

federal law enforcement back then even. and some of them were they would just. chain themselves to the tires of a bus. taking people to a a detention facility. Um, and then and and then and we had. Occupy and all those things back then. And then, uh, BLM happened and then we. had the, uh, you know, the the the 2024. protests um, and people blocking roads. to JFK or different pieces. What we don't know how to grapple with. yet is that one of like the two major. political parts in the country has a.

street arm and and and like what the I I. just think the right doesn't understand. how to apply power in the same capacity. And so when what we have is the de facto. reality that we're not doing mass. deportation anywhere near the scale that. we need to. And a significant reason is. because there will be violence that. American citizens will physically. obstruct federal law enforcement at. scale in defense of non-citizens. I just. think like that is a hard thing for.

people to adjust to. >> I couldn't agree with you more and I'm. grateful that you're saying this out. loud. I would just add that that. violence comes from organized paid. militia. with a leadership structure and a. funding structure that is discoverable. And you know, you had the numbers in New. York for 90 years. You had heroin trade. in New York. You had prostitution in New. York. You had lone sharking in New York. And all of it was ended with the recode.

statute by the FBI. They took it down. the five mafia families in New York. like they figured out where's this. coming from. Well, there's an organized. criminal group that's doing it. Let's. just take them out. But that's what. we're seeing here, but there has been no. effort. I just think it's one of the. weirdest things I've ever seen in my. life. It's fair. I you know, one of the. things I think about too related to that. is we've got a we've got we talked about. the border a second ago and I'm saying.

this to answer what you're talking. about. Everybody agrees that we should. have a strong border. Okay. >> Yeah. The the reality is like when the. next when the next mass importation wave. happens under the next Democrat, I think. they're going to be smart enough to a uh. avoid the images of caravans, right? So, what are they going to do? They're just. going to fly everybody, >> of course, >> over. And what are we going to do? Like, I'm sorry, and I keep saying we I'm used. to addressing these right-wing. audiences. I ask people, I say, "Well, what is our model for that? How do we.

organize against that?" I remember. illegal aliens sleeping on the lenolium. floors of Logan Airport. I remember the. the the NGO volunteer NGO play word for. government contractor that happens to be. left leftwing right in the in the um the. vest escorting an illegal alien through. the line while all of us waited. So are. we going to go challenge those people. physically? Are we going to form human. change around them? um like we don't. know what to do against what I will call. kind of the the the unlawful or.

sublawful actions of the left as it. relates to these pieces. And so my. argument, what you're talking about is. is clearly something that should happen. My argument is the only approach and the. one that by the way keeps government. legitimacy is to marshall the state in. an aggressive capacity and just enforce. the law. And what I mean by that is we. hire a couple hundred thousand people. Um, we go to every all 630 commercial. way stations. We post up at post.

offices. We build the 50 city. infrastructure that Joe Biden built to. mass import people into this country at. industrial scale very successfully. Proof that the capacity can exist when. when the will is there. Um, and we start. to enforce this and there will be those. protests. There will be limited elements. of political violence. But what starts. out as outrageous, I think, can become. ordinary. And so the function of your. federal government, the legitimate state. function of your federal government, um, enforcing a mandate that it was.

delivered by the people, like if we. can't do that anymore, like I guess when. I said I have faith that this will. eventually happen, it is cuz I I'm not. willing to uh contemplate what will. happen if if the if we can't do that. anymore because it will Yeah. So the solution is to hire a quarter. million Americans to enforce immigration. law. Do you arm them? >> Not generally. So here's what I want is. it it isn't just to hire them. It is to.

say that we are either going to mobilize. as a country for this or or it's not. going to happen. Right? And and and I. think you're Europeans that I talked to. are starting to have that same. understanding. And both also the the. ability to mobilize is the evidence that. there would be the political will. those. things are are right there. So, what I. want to do is is the enforcement um. agencies keep doing what they're doing. We build a meta layer of infrastructure. to relieve and support them. Uh we have. 49,000.

commercial or charter charter buses in. the country. We have something called. the civil reserve air fleet that can be. activated. We have DoD planes. We we. have the logistics capability and we. have people around the country who can. deploy that that skill set. The tougher. part to your point though, right, isn't. just that logistics is again a function. of will and dollars and time is how do. you come in contact? Let's say ICE gets to that vaunted 3,000. arrests uh a a day that we hear about. and let's say that we even converted.

those to removals. That would still even if that was. applied for four years full would still. maybe only be 30% of who just Joe Biden. brought in. So the there has to be a way. to scale whether or not the way that I. recommend it is the right one, doing. this at scale is a new and different. thing than what's occurring right now. Um and and again despite the the the the. really significant work happening in. enforcement right now. So how do you. make contact with these people? I think. that a lot of it can be civilian.

contact. Hey, we know who you are. Hey, come exercise your right to self. removal. Hey, here's a piece of. certified mail. Sign it. Um but at some. point there will have to be a greater. force. um that comes in enforcement contact. with the illegal alien population if. we're going to do this at scale. So you. can deputize people through DOJ um and. again that of course that comes with. risk. You can DHS can deput and that.

doesn't DOJ's deputization authority. does not confer immigration enforcement. authority. Um DHS can deputize people um. but they have to be existing federal. employees. So what I'm working to do. right now is just mix and match all of. these authorities to somehow build. towards enough daily contact with. illegal aliens that that their removal. at scale is possible. And so that is. that is a a new and different. infrastructure than what exists right. now. What do you think the incoming. Democratic president assuming a Democrat. wins in 28 would think if there were a.

quarter million Americans. out there trying to enforce federal. immigration law? Like what would they. think of that? Yeah, they would say. there's an army. >> on our streets. It's not loyal to me. that I don't command. That's dangerous. >> That's how they think. I mean, look how. they treated January 6 was obviously set. up, right? Clearly, but they still put. over a thousand people in prison. They. were scared of like elderly diabetic. grandmothers. >> Yeah. >> How do you think they'd feel about a.

quarter million young people on the. street? >> Well, not good. They already tell us. that. >> They they tell ICE. They already say I. is an invading army. They they say that. they're illegitimate. They say that. they're lawless. So, we have to just. accept that we will either use the. federal government and its powers in a. way that the left is very comfortable. with and the right is still catching up. to. And by the way, to your point, employing lots of the uh uh. underemployed young men and women of our. country to a cause, which is who are we? Um we we can do that or we can accept.

that we do not have a response to to. this to the lawlessness of the other. side. And and that ties to your point, which is uh like what January 6 also did. with the thousand prosecutions is it it. killed any semblance of a of of a. right-wing street movement of of any. protests, right, of any mass gatherings. Um. >> that was the point of it, >> right? And so there is no like we do not. have any other mechanisms, which by the. way is is is okay. we can use the.

legitimate mechanisms of the federal. government and we employ a couple. hundred thousand young men and women to. a cause that is significant. We've done. this at scale before the Civilian. Conservation Corps I think in the 1930s. hired 2775,000. people in in four months and and just. say. >> do you know who ran it? >> No. >> General Douglas MacArthur ran it really. was the largest mobilization in American. history. Yeah. >> Fantastic. And so and so think about. could we be marshal to that cause? It.

seems crazy right now, but I don't think. it will. The more that we see what's. happening in Paris, the more that or in. France, the more that we see, right, the. perspective of someone who will come in. in an industrial scale move another 10. million people into the country. And so. my argument is we can either marshall. ourselves for that or we are we are out. of other options really. >> Is there any way to apply pressure to. the current government to just kind of. do what it said it was going to do? Well, in my opinion, we have there is no.

extension of current capability that. gets us there. It has to be something. this we we got two years left. It has to. be something at at much greater scale. Um, just from a raw capabilities. perspective, I'll give you an example. So, one of the the successes is the. extension of something called the 287G. program, right? It's bringing the. sheriffs on for immigration enforcement. And sheriffs are one of the greatest. tools you can have. They know their. neighborhood, right? Etc. They're all. patriotic. They take that oath. But so. they've expanded that dramatically. Um. but even that accounts for.

under a thousand arrests a day, maybe. 500. If we're going to do mass. deportation in the millions, this is. just it is an entirely different. enterprise. And so what my. sort of going around and talking to. folks about that part is much simpler. The only thing that I want to do is. start to like kind of do that trial. balloon thing. You know what I mean? where I just go if we're not thinking. along these lines then the degree of. national mobilization required. uh um.

then we're not going to get there right. like that's that's where I'm trying to. go on on on the on the promises as it. relates to legal immigration I want H1B. cancelled I want I called for an. immigration moratorium 5 years ago is. there are real things that are happening. um you know uh some of the things we. talked about the wage way to the. lottery. There there's other stuff. coming down the pike that's been. introduced. Um uh for let me give a. quick example. I want to get back to is.

we see all those advertisements in in a. small ethnic newspaper or somewhere very. obscure when an American wants uh when a. company doesn't want to hire an American. but they have to meet that that that uh. circumstance for a green card. Um, well, there's a rule, I haven't read it, but. that is, I think, under White House. review right now that is saying, "No, you like actually have to try to have. hired an American first." Like, if you. advertise this job on LinkedIn for. foreigners, it had to have been. previously advertised for Americans. LinkedIn. Same with Indeed. Or for H1B,

there's no longer difference to. extensions. It is a brand new. investigation, and they're going to look. at whether or not you, as a company, have had recent layoffs. So there are. things happening on the on the legal. immigration side and to include the. suspensions that we talked about and. some other things. They're going to use. equal opportunity law to to sue. companies that for discriminating. against national origin if they only. have H-1B. I believe that the boundaries. of our normal politics can handle that. And I believe that Joe Biden broke them. over here and that a decade and a half.

of of of clear executive branch. sovereignty over immigration enforcement. broke that. And that the the litmus test. for 2028 is two things. If you are a. Republican anywhere, county, state, national, mass deportation is your. limous test. Real in the millions, mass. deportation. But two, the idea that we. would hand over 3 million unadjudicated. or 2 and a.5 million or 2.4 million. unadjudicated asylum cases, the majority.

of which right now were people who were. coached to do this under Joe Biden, right? um is is a non-starter. You can't. we can't do that. So So my goal is to. start to speak those things into the. ether and eventually make them, you. know, the living dust. >> Can I ask you a meta question? Um. >> sure. >> You keep referring correctly to what. happened between 2020 and 2024, which. was like one of the biggest changes in. our lifetime. Didn't get enough. attention. The total transformation of. the American population by Joe Biden and.

his cabinet secretaries. What was the motive there? >> I'm not buying that this was just like. lower wages. No, >> because a lot of people were indigent. and had no skills and actually didn't. fit into a labor market. >> Yeah. Oh, no. Uh it. >> What was the point? Why would you do. that? >> Because your entire political project uh. depends on wholescale social and. demographic engineering. And let me be. very explicit about why it is because. they believe in a different or an alien. form of government. And so the way that.

I the way that I sort of explained this. to people previously is I say, you know, uh I remember when um George W. Bush in. 2000 uh right one down floor and and the. the the thing was now all of a sudden. the electoral college was the problem, right? it was antiquated or whatever all. the problems with were and then you you. know years later some legislation didn't. pass uh uh for for liberals and the. proportional representation in the. Senate is now you know antiquated relic.

right. >> can't have a Senate we've got too few. states supreme court's too small. >> right and and the only way to save the. court is to pack it right so so what I. what I think happened is our polit our. political opponents like like the the. the the actual left the DSA left which. is ascended. What they recognized I think is that. their political program does not have. the depth and breath of support um uh. and this was I'm talking in the past did. not have the depth or breath of support. to be enacted and so what they did is. they attack the rules how here's how we. played the game right so this.

institution that's been around for. hundreds of years is now has to be. changed is antiquated etc and my. argument is that the results to that. were too slow and then our opponents. innovated and they said okay a democracy. is both the cto the rules. the state container and then it's also. the deemos who we are and I think the. innovation is they realize that then. they could just do that they change who. gets to decide in the first place and. when you recognize. that the like like you said what Joe.

Biden did is one of the most aggressive. I mean it's the most consequential. policy decision in in a very very long. time that is the reason for it was a. deliberate social and demographic. engineering move at industrial scale at. brutal scale. drowned children in the Rio Grande, handing off kids to sponsors they barely. knew. Well, what would justify that? The. goal was to move people in here as fast. as they. >> Nobody wants a white population. They're. hard to deal with. They're demanding. They have their rights. >> But but also like it is that I I think.

legitimately it's two things. They they. reject national sovereignty. And like I. I when I I used to um have that. >> they weren't moving people from South. Korea in here. They're moving people. from the poorest countries on the planet. here. >> Yeah. Well, I just think they could I. think they can get them there that. you're going to have a never- ending. well of those folks. In my in my. opinion, right, this is a if you think. about for a hundred years or however. long, the goal of international. communism, the goal of these these old. uh uh belief systems.

isn't just the economic system, it is. the global nature of it. These are. people who reject national sovereignty, right? And so if you have uh a. population here who does not subscribe. to that that again the depth and depth. and breadth of that change is not going. to take here what they've realized is. they can change the who and that's how. you get uh a New York City mayor uh who. who is explicitly DSA is explicitly. revolutionary um uh born in Uganda who.

can win and and a poll a month out shows. that um you know people who are actually. born in New York. where, you know, six were some absurd. percentage against him and he can win. anyway. And I think that they've seen. that in some UK elections where the. distinction where where the gap between. say two years previous or whatever it. was um was well within the margins of. and they would switch back over was well. within the margins of the people who had. been naturalized and able to vote in. that time. And so to me, these are these.

are the same old foes. It is it is it is. a a socialist globalism, right? And and. I remember I used to deliver pizza when. I was young driving around in a little. old car. Me too. >> And I would listen Yeah. And I would. listen to like. >> Great gig. >> Yeah. And I would listen to to And I. knew the neighborhoods where the tips. were good. So I. >> um. >> so I remember I'd listen to like Glenn. Beck and I think it was Mark Lavine back. whoever those guys were and they would. warn about the globalists this. globalism. They reject sovereignty and. and even back then. >> Mark Levine and Glenn Beck were warning.

about the globalists. >> Yeah. Way back in the day, right? And. then. >> this before they joined the team. And. then if you think about this too, like. >> they're on the globalist side now, just. so you know. >> And if you think about this too, like. the Kyoto protocols back in Nigeria, we. all rejected. And so what I what what. I'm saying is what people don't. understand is the actual manifestation. of that is now happening. >> And that there there is our politics is. now much more crude. it is going to be a. foreign tin socialism or it is going to. be federal law prevails and national. sovereignty prevails and that there's. there's uh uh going to be very painful.

choices that we have to make as a as a. country as as we as we sort that out. Uh. and the reason it's going to be painful. is because we know that people will um. you know physically endeavor to prevent. federal law from being enforced. >> Yeah. I mean you either have it or you. don't you know and um and it doesn't. seem like we have it at all. >> Yeah. Yeah, my argument is American. sovereignty has been pierced and and and. and the job of of of. us now is to figure out can it be put.

back together and to paint a realistic. path for that. And and part of the. reason I I suggest you know we we need. to bring so many people into this effort. into that type of national mobilization. is. if we just think of them as bystanders. will fail. Um, the federal government. can do communications at times. effectively, uh, see something, say. something way back in the day or those. color-coded terror things, right, from. way back in the day. That is not to. endorse or not endorse any of those.

programs. It is to say we could be. communicating much more effectively at. scale both to the American people what. the cost of this is, what's coming down. the pike, what is going to be required. if we're actually going to do. deportation or remigration, which is. going to be mainstreamed in the US and. and Europe. and uh but also to. communicate to the legal aliens. directly. We can text them like we live. in a a technological er era now where we. can communicate to them at scale. We. could have billboards that say uh hey if. let's say you're in Houston uh Guatemala.

city is Tuesdays and Thursdays at noon. just show up at the airport. We'll pro. like there are ways that we can do this. So, here's one meta concern that I have. is that you notice that under the Biden. administration, the federal agencies that flooded the. country with illegal aliens were built. not by Biden, but a lot of them were. built by Bush. >> Mhm. >> DHS specifically, um, you know, Republican president built that. And so.

because. leadership of our system changes. perennially, like what you build can be used by. people with a totally different program. So if you're building data centers, if. you're building a digital control grid, which we are, without any brakes on it. at all, why would that not be used by. the next administration to surveil and. control anyone who opposes their agenda? Uh, all of it will be all of the power. that we're talking about will be. marshaled by both sides. And and again, I'm not I'm not calling for a for a huge.

government-run uh um surveillance. program. What I'm suggesting is. >> Well, I don't think you are. >> Yeah. What? Yeah. >> I'm just saying no. No, but I don't mean. surveillance of wrongdoers. Like cameras. are great because they're to prevent. child abduction. Okay. Now, >> but why wouldn't they be used against. American citizens who just want. sovereignty in borders? >> Very very well. Maybe. Right. My my. argument is is what we need to do for. for illegal aliens who are not subject. to those same protections is use the. basic amount of information available to.

any like firm bidding on internet. advertising or to a credit agency, right? So, uh uh when they do um. background checks for tenants, right? It's three major companies that process. those like that's commercial data we can. buy and reach the vast majority of the. legal alien population who aren't uh who. what people use the phrase in the. shadows for example. Um, so, so that's. what I want to do. But, but yes, much. more broadly, what I'm asking for is us to use federal. power as aggressively as we just watched.

Democrats do when they build a 50 city. infrastructure, right? And and and but. but and to be even more explicit, like. to then be legally creative in how we do. that, too, in ways that have gone beyond. what we have. >> And so, um, there was a program called. the CHNV program, Cuba, Haiti, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela. Right. Hey, there's an emergency at the border. So. now we have to fly people in. Um at one. point they were flying in 30,000 people. a month on that program. Um that. probably gets close to or is a little.

bit under a single month of best. removals by ICE. And maybe I maybe it. was ICE was closer to 40,000. I'm just. talking in terms of scale here. Um New. York City in 2023 had about 215 quote. unquote migrant shelters operating. That's when you would see stories about. like homeless people being displaced, literally being displaced because these. these shelters were taking on illegal. aliens. Um. >> well, and hotels that tourists stayed in. were taken over. >> Exactly. 250 15 I'm sorry, at at the. peak more people at one point in New.

York City, there was at a single point. in 2023, so I'm not saying persistent. than ICE has had in its custody at one. time at any given point in the next past. two years. So the scale at which. Democrats were willing to wield this. power, right, with the courts just. rubber stamping it all and and get it, they did walk certain things back, but. like is still something we're not. approaching yet. And so what I ask is. like where is that pioneering pioneering. legal strategies relates to immigration.

that CHNV was? Where is that proposal. that bold? um where is that uh that. function of logistics at scale that will. get millions of people out? We know that. the federal government is capable of it. They just did it in the reverse. direction four years ago. >> And so what we have to figure out though. is like well no one's done it this way. before. How how does that work? And to. your point, all of these mechanisms want. built, right? All of these legal. innovations, the the when the opponents. come back in power, they will have it. But the sole metric that I believe will.

be the most impactful for the American. people at the end of all of this. discussion is did we remove millions of. people or not? That to me will impact. every other element of the quality of. life discussion that we have. And and. and that is why I think our politics are. inherently. moving in that direction. like the the. the there if there are two waves of yeah. if there are two waves of populism um. one of those the one on the right that. that has showed at times in fits and. starts that it can capture a multi-class.

you know multi-racial etc coalition um. that one versus the one on the left. which is moving into explicit socialism. and revolution um one of those involves. continuing to bring in millions of. foreigners to displace American workers. and one doesn't and that one over here. might have a chance to in um and so like. that to me this is the political program. it is we are moving towards an era in. which we need to prevent people from. coming to this country and we need to. physically remove the folks who are here. because the former I don't think.

survives without the latter last. question there as noted at the outset. the original restrictionist movement was. blueco collar democrats. >> because they were the ones hurt by it. was the factory owners who were for it. was the factory workers who opposed it. is there any such constituency in the. Democratic party left. >> Yeah. I think I think uh I think this. realignment will include bringing a. bunch of those folks over. We all. remember. >> Sanders was against it. >> Exactly. Right. And and I tell people I. uh 80% of my immigration policy is.

Barack Obama 2008 or Bernie Sanders. 2003. Right. It is so so what I think is. that is the way that we can knife. through this other emerging coalition of. of socialism. It is to peel off the. people who recognize that there is going. to be one side that will put Americans. first. And again, we're in the process. of that happening and building this out. Like I said, we're at the beginning of. this movement. But yeah, we can split. people off cuz the I mean, there's no. reason that the AOC.

mandi kind of rich kid I went to Bowden. variety of socialism, which is really. just globalism actually. >> Yep. >> Uh that that should prevail. If you're. going to have leftwing politics, at. least it should be pro-American. politics. >> Yeah. Well, we've seen that before. That. we've had that before. So why I don't. understand why they get the entire other. half of the political system. >> Yeah, I agree. Well, and I think it's. cuz they the the reason it is that. version, the globalist version, is.

because they have abandoned they they. find the working class distasteful. Right. Exactly. and and and so my. argument is a little bit simpler in that. what we can do what we're at the. beginning of doing is marshalling this. pro-American coalition and there is it. is just explicitly a pro- foreign one. why I don't know why I just know that. >> Lindsey Graham and Manny actually agre. you despite. >> right. >> a lot of pretending agree on the basic. issues. >> sorry they do.

>> yeah I understand and so here's a way to. frame that though right so that is the. the the Shaking that off, shaking that. consensus off, right, is something. everybody's talked about for 10 years. We're in the process of that happening. And and and that is work that has to be. continued. And what I tell people is it. it stinks. Like I a lot of my friends. that I talk to say when I go back to DC, we we presume we've won this argument. And I say, well, there's all this work. still to carry it forward. And the. opposite of becoming unvigilant is. literally a foreign tin socialism. But. what I tell people is like when we.

actually articulate that we're going to. put American workers first, you cannot. lose that. And so what I tell like the. business class or or the tech guys is. like just read the room. You're you've. gotten away with when when we lived in. an era where Amazon employees were. urinating in bottles at their. workstations, there was time for things. to swing back. And so in right now we. are in a pitch battle. It seems like a. pitch battle. And after the midterms, there's going to be a push for amnesty. But we're in a pitch battle between what.

I would call the business class and the. and and the base or whatever the right. the working class element of it is. The. business class is going to lose this. one. Is it is inevitable. All of our. politics are trending in this direction. The American people are are moving. towards demanding that they're put. first. Their great well of of of uh. well-being for foreigners is is running. out. And like I I just I see that we. will be victorious. Man, I hope you're right. Jason, thank. you very much. >> Thanks for having me.

>> I see that we will be victorious. >> I think so. I really believe it. I have. to. Thank you. Thanks.