John Rich on Diddy, Demons, the Antichrist, How to Hear God, and His War on Child Predators

So John, you seem to be evolving. as a man. And this is my outside. observation, but as a man and. an artist, you want you grew up. and you've said in our last. interview you wanted to be a country. music star, you want to write a lot. of songs, you wanted to chart, sell a lot of records, you did all. that. But you seem to. be, I don't know, on some. kind of new mission. Am I imagining that? And if I'm not, what is it? No, you're not imagining it. Few years ago I started to. contemplate the difference between.

success and significance. And they are different. Sometimes they intersect where. something significant or something. successful, they they interact. But I spent three decades. of my adult life. in self-service. competing in the music. industry to be successful. And so to me, success in the music. industry, I had really high bars. I I had set like I want to be.

songwriter of the year, for. instance, in Nashville. That's something I that's like the. coveted award because there's. thousands of songwriters in. Nashville. And I was songwriter of. the year for three years in a row. Wanted to sell millions of records. Well, all told, you know, we. sell close to 15 million records. Wanted to write hit songs. for other people too. And I've had I don't know how. many, I don't I don't even know the. number of how many top 10 songs. I've written. It's a lot.

So you hit Okay. How were those victories? Were they as great as you thought. they'd be? At the time, yeah, because you know, it was my that's my American dream. That's what I wanted to do. You know, I didn't go to college. I had a four year ride to a school. called Belmont University in. Nashville on a vocal. scholarship. And my plan was to go. there and go to college. And I'm in Nashville and I'll try to. get a record deal, you know, and go. to college. If I don't get a record. deal, well, I got went to college. and I got a degree, maybe I go do. something. I don't know.

But instead of going to college, I went out on the road with. some guys I literally barely. knew from Texas who were. older than me. I was eighteen, going. on nineteen, and. instead of going to college, I went. out and played about two hundred. nights a year in a van pulling a. trailer all over the US, playing. holiday in lounges and county. rodeos and off brand casinos. and basically anybody that would. hire us because. I wanted to be on the radio, I.

wanted to play the grand old opery, and I wanted to write number one. songs. And I couldn't understand how. college was gonna make that happen. Fair. It can't. Yeah. I mean, it just can't. So I said, I'm gonna just go do it. And so that band became. a band called Lone Star, which we. got a record deal a couple of years. after we started, sold four or five. million records with them, wrote my. first number ones with them. So in those moments where. you you you gambled. to that level and then you win, and then everybody loves it,

it is just a constant. high five. I mean, it's just a. constant celebration because that. is so hard to do. Yes. It's like an Olympian winning a gold. medal. That that's what it's like to. write a number one song or to step. out on a stage and there's thirty. thousand people that know the words. to your music and you've never met. any of 'em. And it's that way all over the US. You can imagine that feeling, especially in your twenties. Yeah. I mean, it there's no. no better physical feeling, I. don't think you can have than just.

it's just massive adrenaline. And so. throughout the course of the next. years, here comes Big and Rich, which is, you know, my singing. partner Big Kenny, and we. sold millions of records, and we. have 20, 30,000 people a night. And here's a whole nother rack of. hit songs coming. And now I'm finding people, you know, bartenders who I. who I hear sing one night, and I. talk to this girl, and I go, You're. one of the best singers I've ever. heard. We got to get you in the. studio. We got to write some songs. She goes, All right. And so we do.

She gets a record deal. Her name's Gretchen Wilson, and. Gretchen Wilson sold about 13. million records. Damn. You following this trade? Yeah. So I mean, just home run. after home run, grand slam, grand. slam, which puts a. lot of plaques on your wall. You make a lot of money doing that. Get a lot of praise, a lot of. applause. And that's success. That is success. And in that world, that's it. That is success. But is it significant?

Meaning, what did it do other than. make me feel great and accomplish. things that were on my personal. list? Nothing. And then I thought about, well, when. I die and I go. stand in front of the boss, is he. gonna pat me on the back and say, good job on all those hit songs, man? You were great. Good job. You played 4,000. concerts, man. We're all so happy for you. You think he really cares about. that?

He could not. He doesn't. The answer is he does not care. How that come to you? Seeing the things. that go on in our country, see the. th seeing things that go on in our. culture, seeing things that happen. to people who cannot defend. themselves. Whether it be kids, whether. it be, you. know, poor people, whoever, that just. gets steamrolled every single day,

taken advantage of, targeted, used, abused. And I thought, I'm. wasting my heartbeats. right now because I am. capable of taking. a simple idea, a simple. line, and turning it into a piece. of music that can. penetrate tens of millions. of people. And I can make them, I can make them cry, I can make them. jump up and down and scream and. holler and and and party. I can make them think, I can make.

them not think. I can do all kinds. of things. I mean, music is. is it's the ultimate X factor. Like you can't touch it. It it music. seeps in between the cracks and. crevices of a person's body, mind, and soul. Like everybody's got defenses up, everybody. You do, I do. Music goes right. through it. It just gets through it. How? I don't know. Music is it's like magic. I mean, Psalms, the entire. book of Psalms is means. songs, basically, that.

David wrote. And David was King David was a. musician and a songwriter. And so he there was melodies. to all those song psalms. Someday I can't wait to hear him. sing what that I wonder what melody. he put to that. Like I've had that. thought before. But he probably put it to music. because he knew what I know, which is you can give a. speech or you can make a statement. to somebody and. you can say the exact same thing. with a melody wrapped around it. and have two completely different.

outcomes. One thing music does is once it goes. into you, it stays there. Yeah. You'll forget a speech. You'll forget this podcast down the. road. You'll forget about it. But like an Eddie Rabbit tune from. nineteen seventy eight never goes. away. That's exactly right. Exactly right. The the the earworm. factor, you know? Yes. It goes deep down into your. subconscious. I don't know where it goes. I have thousands of them in. my head. But it goes deep down in. there. And I just.

decided that I was, I was. disappointing the man, disappointing the Lord, that. he gave me this ability and. then gave me a massive platform. of people. I mean, tens of millions. of people know my music. So I already have their attention. So what am I gonna what am I gonna. feed them next? What am how am I. gonna, what am I gonna give them? Am I gonna give them another party. song? Am I give give them another. love song? To what end? Like what does that accomplish?

Nothing. It might it might give me another. plaque on the wall. And I need another plaque on the. wall, like I need a hole in the. head. I walk past those plaques and. go. Like today I do. Or I'll see pictures of me back in. the day, winning an award or. whatever, and I'll remember how I. felt back then. It seems so. insignificant to me now. Like shallow, insignificant. Like, what does that even mean? It it doesn't mean anything to. me now. So success. versus significance. How how do I be significant.

with my music and with my talent? It's writing songs, Revelation. was a great example. You were the first guy to put a. spotlight on that song. I flew up and saw you. We did a podcast on on that. song. It resulted in millions and. tens of millions, actually, of. views and consumption on that. song. And when I go to a big and rich. concert now, they don't. generally walk up and say, Man, I'm. a big fan of your music. If they have enough.

guts to walk up to me and say. something, which I'm always glad. when they do, they say, that song Revelation, he said, pull pulled the Bible off. the shelf for the first time in 20. years after I heard that song, made. the hair on my arm stand up. I had three sorority girls down in. Fort Worth, Texas. We had a concert down there. Like 19, 20 year old girls. come walking up to me. And I'm like, first of all, I'm glad. to still have people 19 and 20 that. like my music. Yay, good for me.

But they came up and they said, Mr. Rich, we heard your. song Revelation, and our. sorority started a Bible. study on Second. Thessalonians, Mark 20. Matthew 24, Revelation, and Daniel. All the things that you mentioned in. your Tucker interview. And we've done a month-long deep. dive on that. And they said everything you said in. that interview is correct. Like that's what it says. But we didn't hear that in church.

But that you were right. That's what it said. I said, that is unbelievable. I said, Well, congratulations. Keep going, you know. So it makes me think. I wonder how many times that has. happened and I'll never know about. it because that song. was significant. It wasn't about success. It was I don't even have a record. deal. I really can't make money on. my songs anymore. There's no money to really be made. on music. Everybody streams. everything. There's there's it's not. about any money. And because I'm not a part of the.

industry, nobody's gonna call me up. and say, congratulations, here's a. big number one. What do you mean you're not part of. the industry? I mean, I don't have a contract with. anybody in the industry. I regularly attack the industry. I call 'em out for for how they. treat artists and. we're not friends. We're excited to announce a new. partner of our show, Poncho. Outdoors. Poncho specializes in men's shirts. designed for the great outdoors. Their flannels are excellent. They're not bulky or stiff,

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I don't know. I don't have one. I'm sure you'd be appalled. Exactly. Exactly. So it's No, they they look at it. and go I. and at this point they. just go, keep swinging. the bat. I mean, because. it turns up opportunities that. I never thought possible. Like I'll get a call and they'll. say, Hey, we want you to come speak. for an hour and yeah, bring your. guitar. And we want you to play. Revelation and Earth to. God. Those are the two songs we want. to hear you play.

Okay. Not the not the big. country hits. And I'll walk into these massive. places and be able to. say things to these crowds that. they're not gonna hear in church. They're not gonna read it on social. media. And then there's the music. factor also that comes in, which is. what I love to do. And that that did not exist before. I started focusing more on being. significant instead of successful. Did you play gospel in public before. this turned? No. You grew up with it, obviously. I grew up with it. My dad's a. preacher, sang and played in.

church. But no, I mean, gospel. music's never been a part of my set. because when big and rich hit. the stage, it's come into your city. and save a horse ride a cowboy and. it's all these crazy songs. You know, and that's what they come. to hear, and that's what we give. them. But on my own, outside of Big and Rich, I have I have my own trajectory, my own homework assignment from. him. And when he lays something. on me to say in. my music, I'm going to. say it. I'm going to write it.

at the top of my ability. I'm going to sing it at the top of. my ability, produce a video as. as well as I can possibly do. And I'm just going to stick it out. there. And if it's significant, it will grow its legs and it will. run faster than anything I could. ever do in the music industry. Revelation's the perfect example. Yeah, I mean that that was not the. kind of song your manager would tell. you to write. No. How do you communicate with God?

We're told in the Bible. to pray without ceasing. Mean continually pray. It doesn't mean continually be. down on your knees praying, but. it means that your head space, and we're human, so we're not very. good at this, but you you're. supposed to attempt. to stay in a headspace. where it's an open channel. So you're an old school guy like me, you know the old C B radios. in your truck. Yeah. And if you just put it on channel 19.

and turn the volume all the way. up and just start driving, and. you're not talking to anybody, you're just driving. Every now and then you'll hear a. trucker or a conversation start. happening coming through that C B. and you're listening to it. It's like old, it's like. entertainment. You know, wonder what. wonder where they are, wonder what. they're talking about. I view praying without ceasing. like your mind is like a. C B radio that you just turn it all. the way on and just leave it there. That way, if he wants to tell. you something, the channel is open. and the volume's all the way up and.

you can't miss it. Like he'll tell you something, make. you feel something, make put a. thought in your head and you don't. miss it. Because that's tough to do. in life because we're running a. million miles an hour and. everybody's coming at us from every. direction all the time. Yeah, there's a lot of distraction. It's just bop ba it's like wasps. It's like it's like it's like. hornets in your face. Yeah. And that's not going to change. because that's the way things are. But if you can manage to discipline. yourself to keep that channel open, you will hear things. You will learn things.

He'll direct you to do things, make. you, he'll, he'll. put it in your mind to call. a particular person. Or you'll meet somebody. that you would not have met had you. not gone to that place that for some. weird reason just felt compelled to. go to this event or this little. meeting or whatever. And you wind up meeting somebody. that can really, really. change your life in a dramatic way. And you can't believe you didn't. know them your whole life. I'm sure that's happened to you. It has. So leaving that channel open, praying without ceasing is a huge.

thing. So. So listen, obey, but it begins with prayer. How do you pray? So most. Christians. think that. because they are a Christian, that all of God's guarantees. and blessings and promises. are delivered to them by default. Now, it is their inheritance. by default because they are a child.

of God. They have they have claim. to the inheritance of what he's. promised us. However, there's o there's only. one way you actually get what it. is you want. Number one, you have to belong to. him for real. You can't be a cultural Christian. You can't say, well, I go to church. every Sunday, I'm a Christian. That does not count. It doesn't mean it's bad to go to. church. It means you. have to be, you. have to look at yourself. as a piece of property.

And Paul wrote, which I know you. love Paul, we're. supposed to be bond servants. to Christ. Bond slaves like. a mule or a. or a cow or a tractor or. whatever. Like we don't have our own. will, we don't have our own. ambition, we don't have anything. We are worthless. But we devote our, we turn. ourselves over to him and he makes. you valuable. And then now he can do things with.

you because your entire ego. and everything has been sacrificed, put put to the side. And he can do something with you at. that point. So that's number one. You got to be an actual real. Christian. Number two, you have to pray for what you. want specifically for. that. So let's say. you want discernment. You can't make sense of what's going. on. You don't know if that's a good. guy or a bad guy. Can't make up your mind. He's too, I don't know what I'm. looking at. And you want.

discernment. God is not just gonna look down and. go, John needs discernment right. now. He can't figure out what's. going on. Boom, John's got. discernment. That's not how it. works. I have to ask. him to give me discernment. I have to say, you promise. me that you will give me. discernment. I'm asking you to now give it to. me. That's step two. And then step three is he. will give you what you're asking for. if it serves his will.

And that's totally up to him. So for instance, let's say, let's say I'm in a really. bad state of mind and I need. peace. Like I don't have peace. I'm I'm unsettled. And I belong to Jesus. I ask him to give me peace. Now he's got to give me peace if. it serves his will. Well, if he doesn't give me peace, which has happened, I. go, why are you not. giving me that? Because I don't, I don't feel. peaceful.

Sometimes he wants you to be. in this mode. He wants you to be in that mode. because he's got something that's. going to require that. element of you to accomplish. whatever it is he's trying to get. What's that mode? That's fight mode. That's offense. That's offense mode. That is there's the target, hit the target. That's what that is. It could be a subject, it could be a. situation that's going on, whatever. it is. It's offense. Christians, in large part.

remain on defense, defense, defense, defense all the time. They don't want to engage. And I guess they they they forget. about the story of Jesus walking. into the temple that was completely. overrun by hypocrites and. people doing business and changing. money, and I mean just turned it. into a bank, basically. Jesus walked in there and sees this. going on. And if Jesus was a modern day. cultural Christian, you know what he. would have done? Turned around and walked out.

Because he'd have said, Well, that place has gone straight. to hell, right? Okay. I don't want it. I don't want. to deal with that. That's what he would have done, but. that's not what he did. He walked on in there. It says he took, he fashioned. a whip with rope. He braided a whip together, called them sons of vipers, which I would guess in Hebrew. was probably cuss words back in the. day. It sounds like Jesus probably. ripped a few cuss words on these. guys and then flipped the tables. over and started whipping them and.

ran them out of the temple. That's pretty serious offense, don't you think? Yeah, I'd say. And he's the son of God and. he's the example that we are. supposed to live up to. Now it doesn't mean you stay in that. mode all the time, but there is. there are situations that arise. where Christians have got to. put their dukes up and. you don't hunt us. We're coming for you now. No, you run. We're not running. You run.

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bits in the streets and they kill. their families and burn their houses. down and you we all know what. happens. They're they're Christians. too. All right? Yeah. Right. Well, we haven't gone through. anything like that in America. And I think Christians have been, I think, I think the Joel Osteens. of the world have created. in their ministries this lukewarm. Pablum baby. food that they serve up to. their congregations week in and week. out. They grow up eating baby.

food. They have no muscle. They have no backbone. They have no, they have. no constitution. They have no fight in them. whatsoever. None. Because they don't understand the. Bible well enough and have. and have digested it and given. themselves over to it. because their preacher never talks. about it. He won't bring it up. And why not? Because it's uncomfortable to hear. those things. Christians don't want. to hear that they will. be persecuted at some point if they.

do it correctly. Jesus said basically, they if they hate you, just. remember they hated me first. I mean, they crucified me. What are they gonna do to you? Get ready. If you're the real McCoy, get ready. And Christians don't want to hear. that. That doesn't keep the church. full, that doesn't keep the o the. offering plates full, that doesn't. keep the donations and the estate. plans that go to these churches. That doesn't keep that going. They want the easy message because. it allows them in their mind.

a way to not have to engage. the devil and his people and. his armies. And so what you have is. A whole rack of of weak. Christians that are. constantly being attacked. by a totally dedicated. force of wickedness. Totally dedicated. What you mean, dedicated? I mean they pray to their they pray. to their daddy for real. I mean they are dedicated. They dedicate their lives to him. and they do what he says and they. look look the way it's deserved.

What what signs do you see of that? Well watch what's going on in the. world. Does it seem like sane people. No. Would do a lot of the stuff that we. see going on these days. No, right. So they are being. controlled and carrying out the will. of their father, the father of lies. And we're supposed to carry out the. will of our father who created. their father. And that's not even. a fair fight. So the Christians are standing on. the side of an insurmountable, undefeatable God, the Lord, who could.

wipe out the universe. with a blink. That's who we serve. Yet we stand out here. and run and hide. and go, please don't come to my. house. Please don't attack me, Mr. Bad Guy, Mr. Wicked Man, Mr. Mr. You belong to the devil. Oh no, no, I don't want I don't want. to hear it. I don't want to see it. And because of that attitude, our country. is completely compromised. at this point because of. weak Christians.

What are the signs that someone is. dedicated to. dark forces? Yeah. Not just mis not just mistaken, misguided. Like who is who is actually. an agent of evil? How do you know that? That their that their every thought. and action is completely. counter to what God created. them to be. Completely counter. That they are. So they're at war with God's. creation, with nature. Why do you think they come after.

kids? I mean, in the New Testament, it says. that children have. angels that. report back to. God on behalf of the kids. Like they have their own protection. And probably the most hardcore thing. Jesus ever said was. you'd be better off to have a. millstone tied around your neck and. cast into the sea than to ever cause. one of these little ones to stumble. Not to rape them, not.

to murder them, not to traffic. them, not to slap them around, to cause them to stumble, meaning. to mess with them at all, to mess with their innocence in. any way, shape, or form. You'd be better off dead. than for that to happen. The Son of God said. that.

Under this just. total fabrication. God loves everybody. Well, God loves everybody. But does not say that anywhere. in the Bible that God loves. everybody. Matter of fact, when you go to. Proverbs 6, it says these. things doth the Lord. all caps hate. Use the word hate. And the first thing it lists is.

those whose feet are swift. to shed innocent blood. He hates them. And then you've got the the issue. of, well, but the Bible says we're. supposed to pray for our enemies. And it does say that. Oh yeah. It says, pray for your enemies, not. pray for God's enemies. Two different enemies. You don't pray for pedophiles, for instance. Those are God's enemies. Their feet are swift to shed. innocent blood. He's who they were talking about, who we talked about in the New.

Testament. You don't pray for those. people. You go to war against. those people. You come straight at them. You do what Jesus would do to. them. You see the difference? This is not preached in churches. Maybe there's a few that preachers. actually talk like this. But Americans want. a Jesus made in their. image, not actually who. he actually was, because who he. actually was and is, and what he told us to do.

are very difficult things that put. you in compromise positions every. single day if you do. what he actually told you to do. And most people are not willing to. do that. Because it's just counter to what. the world demands. Just. Yeah, I mean they're gonna get. attacked, they're gonna get. persecuted, they're gonna all kinds. of things is gonna happen. Why the you. said people who destroy innocence? People whose feet people whose. feet are swift to shed innocent. blood doth the Lord hate?

Why the impulse to. shed innocent blood? Like what is that? I I think that. the wicked people of this earth. believe that they. can inflict the most pain. on the father and the. son by hurting. the thing that they love the. most, which is the innocent child. Yes. And so in their minds,

that's how we hurt him the most. That's how we get the most tears out. of his face. That's how we get him to weep. That's how we torture him. and bring anguish to God. is by hurting the kids. because we know that's who he loves. the most because we know what he. said about it. He said we'd be. better off dead than to do that. That's how we felt about it. So that's who we're going to go. after. How I mean, how.

demented is that? How how how purposefully. wicked is that tactic? Think about that. Yeah, I mean the explanation that we. get is that it's like some kind of. clinical disorder. Most people are not you know, have. no desire to do that. The average person has no desire to. hurt a child be. sexual in any way. Do. Well that's it. But then we're told, well, the the. the psychological explanation, well. it really isn't one, but they're. like disordered. But you're saying it's a kind of.

ritual. I'm saying that they're possessed. by they're. possessed by spirits that want. that are have waged war against God. since day one, and that the. way that they can cause him the most. pain is by. inhabiting human beings and turning. and twisting them into such a knot. that that they are that much of a. degenerate now, that much of a. reprobate now, that they will carry. out that mission. That's what I'm saying. Just like on the other side, when.

you see a real Christian come. straight at you with something, like Charlie Kirk, for instance, okay, that's not normal either. That's outside the capacity of a. human being to do what he was. doing. That nobody's. built for that. That requires being possessed, Christians are possessed. by the Holy Spirit. We are possessed by. that. And so if you're possessed by that, it's no longer Tucker making. a move or John Rich making a move.

or whatever. When you really walk in on something. and you claim the Holy Spirit and. you claim, you claim what. you're promised, the armor. of God, for instance, which. there's only one offensive weapon. in the armor of God. Everything is defensive. Oh, by the way, nothing guards your. back. There's nothing, there's. nothing in the armor of God that. goes on the back. It's all in the front. It's the helmet, it's the it's the. shield, it's the it's the girding. of the legs, it's the it's the. shoes. It's all that, but the offensive.

weapon is the sword. And it says that. the sword is the word of God. That's the word. That's the. scripture. And that it's sharper than any. two-edged sword dividing even. between the spirit and the soul and. the joints and the bones. And that it divides. And that's another misconception. that a lot of Christians have that. Jesus wants everybody to get to get. along. He did not say that. Jesus said, I came to. not to bring peace, but to bring a. sword, to divide mother.

against father, father against son, brother against brother. Because when the truth really drops, there is no middle anymore. It's a clean cut, and it's this and. that, and that is it. That is it. This is all in there, but Christians just. can't seem to get their head wrapped. around it to a large degree. And I believe that stems. from the churches in general. just refuse to go there. And so if you're a Christian. watching this interview and.

you're starting to get keyed up. about what I'm saying, good. I'm glad you're getting keyed up. Why don't you pick up the Bible and. read exactly what it says without. your preacher, without your Bible. group, without anybody, and just. read what it says. That's good advice right there. It's good advice. Yes. Have it have it speak to you. directly and just see what it says. Read what it says and go, wow, okay. Read the examples that are laid. out by the people God thought the. most of. Go read about Stephen, who was stoned to death in the New. Testament, as Paul, who was.

then Saul, is holding the coats of. the men who were stoning Stephen. again to death. And not long after that, Paul had. his road to Damascus event, and then. he went on and all these churches. popped up and he wrote half the New. Testament. Nobody wants to get stoned to death. Nobody wants to get shot in the. throat with a 30-odd six. Do they? No, we do not want that as human. beings. We do not want. that. But it tells us to go. forward, not backward,

forward. We don't retreat from the. devil. He is so weak, and. his people are so weak. in the face of who God really is. and who God's real people are, he has no chance. at all to succeed. The only way he succeeds is that. those people won't engage. It's a one-way fight. And I'm just not going to be a part. of that. Christmas season is here. And although it's a bit of a cliche, it really is important to keep. Christ in Christmas. Should we focus on cookies and.

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Greater Peace and Stillness this. Christmas. In the New Testament, I think all. the disciples are certainly the. majority, or the ones whose fates. we know, none of them wound. up on Corfu in retirement. And no. They all got killed. They all got killed or exiled or. imprisoned for life or yeah. Yeah. So what does that tell us? I mean you just said that God always. wins, but it sounds like his. his you know, arms. and legs, the the people who are. representing him. Well, what God considers a win and.

what we consider a win might be two. different things. Right? Yeah. What God considers a win is that. people convert and repent. and give their lives to him. That's a win. That's the real win. That's the win. That's the biggest win. It says the Lord, the Lord wishes that no one go. to hell. No one. He doesn't want anybody to be. separated from him. It's his creation. He wishes that no one has. that fate.

But he gives you free will. You're not a robot. You can pick whichever side. you want to go. You can follow the. route you're going to follow. And you're going to wind up in. eternity with whoever it is you. followed. It's as simple as that. You're going to live in your daddy's. house, whoever that is. Where do you think the country's. going? Well, there are some positive signs. For instance, my two sons, they're. 14 and almost 16,

and there. is a resurgence of. interest and and true. passion about. learning who God is. What does God want me to do. with my life? Reading their Bibles, having their. own Bible studies. I mean, teenagers having their own. Bible studies. That's happening all over the US. right now. I mean, that's a big. deal. That's a big deal.

And and they are they are very wise. for their age because they have been. through so many lies and. seen the lies debunked, yeah, and. realized oh, they're not. telling me the truth on television. No, they're not. Oh, that politician, that that was. not true. Oh, they they took two. years away from us in school and. made us all wear masks and told us. told our parents if they didn't get. vaccines that they would lose their. jobs. And so my parents took the. vaccine and now one of them's got. myocarditis and the other one can't. breathe.

Or my parents didn't take the. vaccine and they both lost their. jobs. Like they watched the US. government brutalize. their families and them. They watched it, they lived through. it, and it imprinted on them in. a major way. And so now they're. coming out of that and they're. starting to get older and they're. gonna be moving out of the house. this generation I'm talking about. And they want to know. what the real truth is. They know they've been lied to. for pretty much their whole lives, and they're sick of it, and they. want to know what the truth is. And thank goodness they're realizing.

the only infallible truth. is in the pages of the Bible. That's it. Not what the preacher. says, not what I say or you say, or the president says. What's in this book, that. is my life plan. This is my blueprint. They really do feel that way about. it. And that's that's a very. encouraging thing to me. I think a lot of people have a gut. level sense that trouble's coming. A hundred percent. It's gonna have to. Trouble has to come.

Why? Because. if you if you look back over. the history of the written word of. of God, let's let's call it what. what's what's the Lord's MO? What's his modus operandi? How has he done it in the past? That's really important to know. Because he says, I am the same. yesterday, today, and forever. My word does not change. He does not change. We change, culture changes. He does not. So if you look at, for. instance,

this stat. So I started working. with DHS. with their cyber. predator sting units. Oof. Okay? Because I saw a. little presentation was done with my. wife and my older son with like 30, 30 boys, and a DHS agent. came in. And he's telling these. boys how. these predators can get them on. their phones, like how they can. track them, how they talk to them,

how they present themselves. as a I'm a I'm a 15-year-old. girl, I'm a cheerleader. I go to school right down the road. from you. And here's a picture of. this pretty girl. Here, I'll send you a picture of me. and a bikini. You send me a picture, blah, blah, blah. And they start this whole. thing. And then once they've got. them, then they say, Yeah, I'm not a. 14-year-old girl. I'm a 55-year-old man in Cleveland, Ohio. And here's here's your. dad's name, your mom's name, here's. all your siblings' names, here's. your home address, here's where you. go to school. And if you don't do X, Y, Z, I'm gonna show up there.

tomorrow. And kill everybody in your family. Or show 'em the pictures. Yeah. Yes. And then the kid is in this position. of what do I do? What do I do? And then sometimes they'll go and. they're told to meet this guy at a. park or meet him at a store at a gas. station or whatever, and you never. see him again. So my wife and. son saw this one. hour little seminar from this guy. and came home and my son pulls his. phone out and starts changing the.

settings on his phone, deleting apps, certain apps that. he had gone. That one's gone. No, that one's. gone, because this guy's telling. him, get this stuff off your phones. So I'm like, what in the world did. this guy say? And so my wife starts telling me. what all he said, and I said, My. God, that needs to be heard by every. parent in America. I said, What was the agent's name? And she actually had a business card. on this guy. And so I emailed. him and I said, Hey, agent so and so. This is John Rich.

You just had this seminar with my. wife and son, and that message. needs to be heard by every parent in. America. How can we make that. happen? And he goes, Hey, John, nice. to meet you. That's above my pay. grade. I said, Well, send me up to. somebody that it ain't above their. pay grade. So he goes, Okay. So he sends me to their regional. director, a guy named Dennis. Fetting, agent fetting. And I told him, I. said, You guys are doing a horrible. job marketing this message. I'm glad that you go to the school. I'm glad that you'll go to the. church. I'm glad that you'll go to.

the to the youth group. That is admirable and great. But you're throwing a snowball at a. brick wall. I said, Why don't you work. with me? And let's put you on live stream. live on X and promote it for. two or three weeks and do the exact. same thing you just did there, but. let's do it in front of millions of. people. Great idea. That's what he said. He goes, Well, we never thought of. that. Well, of course not. They're not marketers. You know, I mean, that's what I do. So we shook hands, civilian. and federal government shook.

hands, got all the way. up to Secretary Gnome, and she. said, Do it. Great. Green light. So we did that sit down. And to date, it's somewhere around. nine million views, has been. seen now for parents. And I get it all the time. Parents hitting me up going, We. changed everything on our kids'. phones after we saw that. We made their accounts private. We got rid of these apps. We got rid of blah, blah, blah, blah, because you. would literally do anything as a. parent to keep a bad guy, a. predator, from coming into your.

house at night and stealing your. kids out of their bedroom, wouldn't. you, Tucker? Yes, I would. You'd rip their throat out with your. bare teeth if that's all you had. Sleep for eight hours. They would die. Yeah. They would die. They just would. But they're getting. to your kids as you're sitting there. watching the news or football, and. your kids back there on their iPhone. on some app talking to somebody they. think is one person, but it's. somebody else, and they're getting. them right there inside your house, and you don't even know it.

You're derelict on your duty. as the parent because you're just. ignorant of the fact that this is. what's going on. So that started me. down a road of significance. in that in that sector. of educating parents. and blowing the whistle on what the. bad guys do. The DHS told me. that last year there. were 36 million. reports that came into.

them on kids that had been. targeted online. 36 million in one. year. So averaging three. million a month in the United. States. In the United States. That's like every child. Three million a month. And they said, We don't have. there's there's no way we can come. combat that. We go get as many of them as we can. But I mean, it's literally. that's how big the problem is. So back to your question, why.

does trouble have to come to this. country? Because God is not going to put up. with that. And he doesn't bring trouble. on a country because the devil's. people are being devilish. Second Chronicle says, If. my people who are called. by my name will. humble themselves and turn. from their wicked ways,

I will come and heal their land. He didn't say if the devil's people. are. Right. He said, if my people. There's not a lot of emphasis on. that. There's a lot of emphasis. on what other people are doing. wrong. I emphasis on the bad people, on the existence of evil. I've certainly spent a lot of time. thinking and talking about that, but very little conversation about. how we're part of the problem. Mm-hmm. Christians don't want to. hear that. You think they'd come back to church. next Sunday if you if you impugned.

the entire congreg congregation, including your. Including yourself? I do. I do. You think they'd come back? Yeah, I mean that was that that's I. would come back. That's the biblical. message, right? Isn't that what John. the Baptist said as he wandered. around the desert, repent? And Jesus to repent. Yes. And it worked. Maybe the churches will turn back to. that. But if they don't, he. is he is going to h if we. won't humble ourselves, then he is. going to humble us. He will do it. For our own good.

How does that Work. Go ask Moses how it worked. out for him when he got humbled. I mean, ask David how it worked. out when he got humbled. King David went out there and. yay, kill Goliath. Man, that was awesome. He was doing good. And then he becomes king and. he sees this gorgeous woman taking a. bath on her rooftop, and he goes, Wow, who's that? They go, Oh, that's that's. Bathsheba. He goes, Who's she married. to?

She's married to one of your one of. your main generals in the. army, Uriah. He goes, She's married to Uriah. Yeah. He goes, tell you. what, when we take the Philistines. on here in the next couple of weeks, they had a battle coming up. Put Uriah on the front line. So he'll die. And then withdraw support from him. so he's alone. He got killed. Yeah. And then David took his wife. David took his wife after he. had him basically murdered. And Bathsheba got pregnant.

And then a prophet came to. David and he said, God knows what you've done. He knows what you've done. And he sent me to tell you that. that child will not be born alive. He's taking your child from you. That's your punishment. And that and David just went. into an absolute tailspin. I mean, it said covered himself in. sackcloth and ashes, ripped his. beard out. I mean, he was just. writhing around in the street. as the king of Israel at that.

point, because he realized. the the. immense nature of. sin that he had committed. His sin. Yes. Yes. And God loved him. David is the only man in the Bible. that God says is a man after my own. heart. I mean, the greatest. compliment you could get from God. Yes. But David still did that. And God brought him low. He humbled him in a. major way. And so if we look at the history of. God and what his MO has always.

been, when his people. refuse to do what he's telling. them to do, and they stand back and. let the devil just run right over. them over and over. And by and by doing so, allow tens of millions. of kids to be. harmed or worse, because Christians, God, God's. people refuse to. To engage the situation, you. damn right he's gonna humble us. And I can't wait. Can we? For the country to be humbled.

Because I don't want to live in a. country that allows that kind of. thing to happen. I don't want to live in a place like. that. That that is the most. abhorrent thing you can possibly. imagine. But there's a lot of suffering on. the way from here to humility. A hundred percent. Pain. Pain is the greatest teacher. Pain pain is, I mean, he made the. Israelites wander around out in the. wilderness for 40 years. Moses didn't even get to go into the. promised land because he sinned. And that was his punishment. You can go down the list. All of them did something. I mean, they're just humans.

But he gives you, he, I've said this before. If God really loves you, he'll only. slap your teeth out instead. of your brains. If he really cares about you. And you're a dad, I'm a dad. If our kids, when they're little, they're playing out in the road, going to baseball around or. whatever, and you go out there and. they're like, boys, you can't be. playing in the street. Come on back in the yard. Okay, dad. And the very next day they're back. out in the street throwing the.

baseball again. Are you going to. have the same demeanor at this time? No. No. You're going to intensify and you're. going to go, boys, I told you, and. you're going to grab one of them by. the shirt and you're going to march. them back into the yard. And then the next week they're out. in the street throwing the baseball. around again. And cars are zipping by. Now what are you going to do? Now we're going to enter the phase. of pain. The spanking zone. Something's gonna happen that. they're not gonna want it to happen. again. And why are you doing. that? You're doing that so they.

don't get hit by a car and. die. You're doing it to. protect them from themselves. because they're not listening and. they're not doing what it is you're. telling them to do. And it's not an ego trip that you're. punishing them. It's for their own good. You can tell the kid his whole life, don't put your hand on that stove, son, or it will burn your hand. He will not believe you until one. day he lays his hand on that stove. and takes the skin off his face. That is correct. And he'll never. touch it again. Will he?

He'll ne or like a go-kart, you know, the exhaust on a go-kart. sitting out there. Yeah. Yeah, and you tell your kids, don't. touch, don't touch that. That thing is blazing hot. You can fry an egg on that. My son, he. was about nine, laid. his hand in on that and I had to go. to the hospital and scrape all the. skin off. It was horrible. He never did that again. Right. So that's what. Christians, I believe, can expect. in the future. Have you experienced have you been. humbled? Oh, good grief.

Yes. Tremendously. Many times because I'm a very. stiff-necked. I would say i it's. a battle for me to sacrifice. my self confidence and arrogance. and my alpha. male attitude. That that is my biggest thing. is I've gotta kill it every single. day. Every day I gotta just. tie that up in a knot and throw it. over my shoulder. You do that.

By. realizing who's. watching you. Knowing he's looking at you going, you're going, sorry. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that, shouldn't have had that thought, shouldn't have got that mad, shouldn't have done whatever. You go, I'm sorry, and then stop doing that. He'll go, Thank you. He's your dad. He treats us like kids. because we are the same way.

you would discipline your kids and. care about your kids, and I do, is the same way he feels about us, except he's just perfect at it, whereas we're totally imperfect. with it. But the same emotion and. the same point of it is there. Whether it's Tucker Carlson talking. to your kids or God's talking to. Tucker Carlson, it's the same. relationship. Isn't that an interesting thing to. think about? It is interesting. And one of the. things I I mean, aside from the fact. that the unhappiest people in the. world I've ever met hate their. dads. There's something about that.

dynamic that doesn't work at. all for people. But I noticed that most people in. positions of leadership, temporal leadership, will. never admit fault ever. Ever. That's the one thing that sets. them apart. Whether they're competent or. incompetent, they all fail at some. point, and leaders tend. to deny it. Yep. They fail to yield. to him, number one, but. they they even fail to yield.

to their fellow. citizens to say, I'm sorry, that was. a huge mistake. And why, why do they fail to do. that? Because they feel like if I. admit that I really made that. horrible mistake, they won't. re-elect me. Or I'll lose my job at the big. company or whatever it is. So that is more important to them. than owning. up to whatever they did. that was wrong. It's more important to keep myself.

intact. Well, what is that? That's that's back to success and. significance. They're only concerned about. success, their success. That's it. And I'm telling you right now, man, he does not care about your. personal success. He may give you a lot of success. But that's not the point. And I really think that he gives. he gives guys like me success and. you success and other people. success, so that some point back. to your original question, it seems. like John, you've changed.

gears here. Yes, I have changed gears here, because the. fuse is burning down on whatever. this situation's gonna wind up. being. And I want to be on record. that I said true things. that that are backed up by. the word. I want to write music. that backs it up. I want to do podcasts. That people can watch and think. about it and go pick it up and read. it for themselves, that is. significant to me. That is significant.

But it's also unpredictable. You don't know where that goes. Are you worried? I have concern about it. I've had death threats in the past. two weeks. That's not fun. What's your attitude. toward that? Pray for protection. So we talked about earlier when you. pray for things, you have to be. specific about what it is you're. asking for. And then he has to give it to you if. it serves his will. Well, I would hope protecting me. serves his will. I hope he hope he wants me around a. long time.

There's there's one. verse in Zachariah in the old. testament, and this prophet, he was being hunted basically, and like all of them were, and he asked God for protection, and God responded to him, the Lord. responded to him and said, I. will be a wall of fire. around you. I personally will. Not I'm gonna send down the angels. I, the creator, will be. a wall of fire around you, and they.

will not be able to get to you. Granted. Job is another example. Job had a hedge built around him and. his family that God built around him. because God loved him and protected. him. And the devil went to God. and said, Take that hedge. off from around Job, and I bet I can. get him to curse you. Like this is the devil up there, this Lucifer up there talking to. talking to God. God goes, No, he won't. He goes, Well, you'll never know. because I can't get to him.

Because you built this hedge around. him, I can't get to him. But if you take it down, he'll curse. you. He will. He'll turn his back on you and he. goes, No, he won't. He goes, All right, fine. And so God took the hedge away from. Job. And it says a storm blew. through, killed his entire family, took all of his crops, all of his. land, his animals, everything. And then Job got struck with a. disease, and he went from being. a wealthy, successful guy with. a nice family and all that, to. sitting outside the walls of the.

city covered in sores, scraping. himself with pieces of broken. pottery, begging for people to. give him food. And his fa his family and friends. are walking past him, going, Job, just curse God and die. Just curse God and die. Job, this is horrible. We can't. Then his friends show up and blame. it all on him. We can't stand seeing what's. happening to you. God has abandoned. you. Just curse him and die and get. this over with. And Job's response is this. Though he slay me,

yet will I trust him. Though he slay me, yet will I still trust him. And when he made that statement, God replenished him with everything. he had lost, times seven, and. put the hedge back around him and. told the devil, said, I told you. so. I told you he wouldn't curse. me. Get the hell out of my. face. Go read that story. Right? Yes. So you're.

changing your orientation. away from just amusing people. in bars and stadiums. to trying to use the authority. that you have, you've been given, you've earned, to teach and to shine. light on evil. and to help the weak. Defenseless. The defenseless. I think I'm summarizing broadly. what you just said. You've written a new song, which. I think it's fair to say is not a. top forty hit. Is this fair?

It just came out and it will. not be on the radio. Why won't it be on the radio? If a radio station plays this song, I will go there personally and. buy a mistake dinner. It would take a lot for them to put. this on the air. About a year ago, I saw a. a clip of Sean Combs, and he was standing on a stage at. an award show. Puff Daddy. Yeah, that's right. I I won't call him that. But whatever. That guy.

And Sean Combs standing up. there, and he's looking into the. cameras, and he says, I own your kids. I own their souls. I determine what they wear. I determine what they listen. to. He's looking right in the camera. saying this. Meaning he's looking at me. And I'm thinking, Oh, is. that right, Sean Combs? You own my sons? You own the souls of my. sons.

Really? And I thought, the this. guy has no fear whatsoever. of a mom or a dad. and what they would do to him. if he came and tried to take. one of their kids. No understanding whatsoever. And basically what you're seeing. there is a is a demon-possessed. man. And don't forget this, Tucker. The devil and his minions are the. most arrogant creatures in the. universe. They are so arrogant. I've noticed. With their wickedness. They don't care what you think.

about it. I mean, they're just gonna say it. right to your face. And so I saw him say that. and I went, This guy, music for Sean Combs. is like a weapon. He uses his music. to indoctrinate. to we talked. about music earlier, how it can go. in between all the defenses. you have, it can get through your. soul and your spirit and all the way. down into you and get stuck in your. head for the rest of your life. And he knows that too.

He uses it for wicked purposes. So it's a weapon for him. It's it's something that's his main. go-to. And I and I was thinking about. that, and I said, Yeah, me too. Music is my weapon of choice. And is anybody gonna rebut. this devil and what he just. said about our kids? Nobody did. Nobody said boo about it. Well, there's Sean Combs up there. just declaring that he owns the. souls of our children in America.

I said, Yeah, I don't think so. And I got. really. intense with that thought process. And I thought there needs to. be a song that. talks about what a. what a mom or a dad. would be willing to do. to keep a Sean Combs. style person, and there's millions. of them in our country. As we discussed earlier, there's. literally nothing they wouldn't do.

to protect their kids. And I really don't think that the. people on the other side of the. table, the predator class out. there, don't really have an. understanding of that. It's almost as if they have no fear. of the American parent, of the. dad, the regular guy, the guy that. that keeps to himself, works. hard every day, just leave me alone, guy. I think they don't. really understand what that person. would turn into if you put your. hands on one of their kids. Because they would rip you limb from.

limb. They would become the most primal. beast you've ever met in your life. They would lose all inhibition. You lose, they win. All they would care about is that. they live long enough to kill. you. That would be the dad's. only concern. Just let me live long enough to take. him out. He hurt my kid. That's how a parent really feels, right? Without question. Okay. A lot of parents watching this. podcast right now are going, yep.

So I wrote this song. called The Righteous Hunter. Because predators hunt. They hunt. They hunt our kids. So they're the wicked hunters, right? Well, as as. everything is in nature, if you've. got darkness, you've also got light. There's a flip side to everything. And I thought, who. are the righteous hunters? How about we hunt them?

How about we put them on the run? How about how about the predators. out there who are so arrogant. that they'll stand on television and. tell us what they're going to do to. our kids? How about we put a little. fear of God into them for a minute? How about we remind them who. it is that they're really dealing. with? And so I wrote this song, The. Righteous Hunter. It just came out. The video to this song, which I. would urge people to go watch, is disturbing. It is a it is a.

recreation, and we actually. used adults. who had been trafficked and who now. go out and sting. traffickers. One lady in particular named Brooke, who you'll see in the video, she made sure that we shot. this accurately. So basically you see these two bad. guys making a deal on. buying some kids and. where they're gonna meet. And then you see 'em meeting there. and then you see the kids walk out. that are for sale.

And meanwhile I'm singing. in this little girl's bedroom. and she's not there because she's. been taken. And and her dad is played by Sean. Ryan. What a good man. Man. In the video. And you talk about a righteous. hunter, that's him. Cause I promise you, he's a hunter. on many levels. But as a dad, that is. the last human being you. would want to see coming for you. The last human being. And so I asked Sean, I said, I know.

this is way outside, man, of. what you normally do or. have ever done. But would you play the dad. in this video, The Righteous. Hunter? And I sang the Righteous. Hunter on his podcast about two. months ago. And he looked at me and he said, That's gonna be the biggest song you. have ever put out. I'm gonna make a prediction. That is gonna be the biggest song. you've ever put out. Tears in his eyes, the whole. thing. So I brought my guitar. up here because we're not gonna. show the video on the podcast,

but you can get the song. You can go watch it. Just look up John Rich, the. Righteous Hunter, and you'll find. it. But I brought the old Martin. there. That's actually my son's. name, Colt, my younger son, and his. birthday, September twenty-nint, twenty eleven. And I memorialized. my kids on my guitars. I love my kids more than life, more than anything. And there's literally nothing I. would not do to protect. one of my kids. Literally nothing. Literally.

I don't care if 20 of them are. coming. We'll pile them up out by the fence. If you come from my kids. As a wind break. If you come from my kids, all bets. are off, you lose. I win. We don't run. We do not run, and we're gonna. have to stop running in this. country. We should not have the. posture of, oh, I just hope they. don't come get my kid. That's not the posture, man. The posture is you come. on and try it one time, big. boy. Come on into my yard.

and try it one time and see how you. wind up. You freak sitting behind your. computer acting like you're a kid. and trapping these kids, stealing. these kids, pimping them, prostituting them, harvesting. their organs, all the horrible. demonic stuff you're doing to our. kids. Why don't you step in my yard. one time and try it and see what. happens to you? You degenerate demoniac. Call them what they are. So that's what this song does. Can I hear it? Absolutely.

I know I always bring songs to you. that you go, I can't believe you. could write a song about that. No, I love it. Evil runs around. this town undercover, looking for a soul to. take, but they. better stay away from. the righteous honor,

or hell is all they'll. pay. Cause I can see around. the corner, and I know you're. coming. If you had any sense, you'd run, but you ain't got a clue. what a daddy will do. Better give your soul to. Jesus while I get my. gun. You better give your soul. to Jesus while I get my.

gun. Our sons and daughters, shrouded in the shadow. of night. But we fight with protection. of the heavenly father, and we ain't scared to. die. Then I can sing around. the corner, and I know you're. coming. If you had any sense. you'd run,

but you ain't got a clue. what a daddy will do. Better give your soul to. Jesus while I get my. gun. Recall the words that Jesus. said better off when. millstones around. their necks and we pray.

not I will but thine. be done bringing in. to the reign of the wicked. oneness we claim. in your name. and I can see you around. the corner and I know. you're comin' if you. had any sense you'd. run. but you ain't got a clue.

what a Danny will do. better give your soul to Jesus. while I get my gun. Yeah you better give. your soul to Jesus while. I get my gun. Evil runs around. this town undercover. looking for a soul to. take but.

they better stay away. from the righteous honor. for hell is all they'll. pay. Amazing. I love it. Thanks for letting me play it. You saying there, I'm not afraid to. die, are you not afraid to die? Not for my kids. Yeah. It'd be an honor to die. for my kids. I agree with that.

Why are you the first person. to articulate this in the way. that you did? Because it is the most grotesque, uncomfortable, wicked. thing that exists in my. mind. And it is. so bad that. really good people with really. good intentions, strong. people. just want to go like that. Yep, that's where I am. That's exactly where I am. I cannot bring myself.

to come to grips with what is going. on. It's so evil. It is so against. the DNA of a unpossessed. person that they can't even fathom. it. That's very wise. You don't want it in your mind. That's right. In fact, I've always wondered, I'm. so grateful that there are people in. trapping job monsters. on the internet. I'm grateful for that. But I always wonder what does it do. to them to marinate it?

It's like watching ICE's videos. all day. You don't. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. That they have PTS like you can. on a map. Is that true? Oh, Lord have mercy. I mean, the jobs these people do, the stuff they have to see. is. it it never leaves them. And they have all kinds of problems. that they have to deal with. And a lot of them can. only do those jobs for a period of. time and they gotta get out. They just cannot deal.

with it. And it. that that goes to the point of. how unbelievably horrible. it really is. And the fact. that 36 million reports. got called in last year to DHS. about kids being targeted, 36. million unique reports. That's how big it is in our country. America is the number one consumer. of child exploitation. Number one is America. You know the country that's founded. on God.

That country, the country that. says founded by our creator. It's just a little weird because if. you go online, even in your private. conversations, which are not private. at all, they're all monitored, as I. know you know, that's a fact. And start talking about overthrowing. the government or killing. your leaders or whatever, boy, they. they come to your house. That happens a lot. A lot. So how are people consuming child. exploitation pornography? Like how are they engaging in this.

digitally and the government just. kind of isn't picking up on it or. something? What is that? It could be that could be part. of it, but the sheer volume, Tucker, how do you deal. with thirty-six million. reports? How do you do that? I don't know. So the only way I have thought. of of how to start knocking. these numbers back, which by the way, less than 1%. of kids that are trafficked. and taken are ever returned.

to their parents. Less than 1%. The only way I have. determined, and at the end of the. video, and I really hope people go. look this video up, The Righteous. Hunter. At the end of the video, my friend Tim Tebow saw. the video. Tim's organization, they hire former. police, detectives, former military, intelligence people, and they. go out and they find these. guys and they rescue kids.

That's what they do. We need, I. asked the lady. that was at the video shoot, she's overseen 14,000. kids rescued in 21 years. Wow. And she was trafficked as a. kid. So she dedicated her whole life. to it. And I asked Brooke, I said, So how many. people would we need in America. working full time. doing the job that you do or that.

Tim Tebow does and others. to get this number from 1%. or returned to 50%. are returned? She said probably. twenty thousand. somewhere in that range. And I said, what would that cost? She said about a billion. dollars a year. Yeah. And I said. Less than we give to Harvard. That's all. What would happen if you had two. billion dollars? She goes, We would. there, they would be running. They would burn.

their computers. They would get off the dark web. They would be hiding under the rocks. and in the caves. They would be hiding because there. would be an army of people. tracking them, hunting. them. The predator becomes. hunted. She said it would take that. So I wonder why I can't go to. Congress and lay these lay these. facts and figures out while we have. this current administration. and say, I want. two billion dollars peeled. off of some bullshit project you. guys are working on. And I want 20,000, 40,000.

soldiers on the ground, American. citizens with expertise. to go drain. this situation and incarcerate. as many of them as you can and. save the American child. That is what I want to see happen. Take it out of the four and aid. budget. I'm for that. Let's go. Now, if we pull something like that. off, God. may decide to hold off on turning. the table upside down on this. country. He might if you do. that.

I mean, we don't treat children well. at all. No. At all. We don't let a lot of 'em even be. born to begin with. Sixty-three million since nineteen. seventy-three. That's right. And I often think if some if. you were buying a new house. and the realtor said it. was a great house and you wanted the. house, a beautiful house, and you. got to the master bedroom and sh and. the realtor says to you, by the way, you should just know that a child. was dismembered in this bedroom. Would you buy the house? Maybe, probably not. Because there's something spooky. about that. There's something I'm.

not a theologian, I don't know much. about theology, but there's. something so dark about. that act taking place in a. place. Yep. You don't want anything to do with. it. We used to call them haunted. houses. So if you have sixty-three million. dismemberments of children in. your country, it changes. the nature of the country. It's leaving aside. you know the effects on the women, obviously the children were killed, the effects on the abortionists who. did it. It's bad for everybody, but. it's also bad for your nation. itself. Like that's happened inside.

our board. Yeah. Yes. How long do you think God's. gonna let us get away with that? I don't know, but I'm surprised he. has for this long. He he he he brought. low many other empires. for way less. Yeah. Yes. I mean I I'm. that's why I. I refuse to believe that doesn't. have consequences. That has consequences. I hope for it. If if the soul is real, and. I think that it is, I think most. people understand that it is because. they feel that it is, you can't. eliminate 63,000.

people, can't kill them. for whatever reason. Everyone always has a good reason to. kill somebody. They always justify it to. themselves. But the fact is that many number of. children were killed, and like that. has got to have a consequence. How could it not? Right. Right. So this little song I. just played you is. it's out there and the point of. it is is to is to grab. parents by the shoulders. and shake them hard enough. Yes. Because these images in this.

video, my man, will rattle. you when you see them. That it was hard to shoot, uncomfortable to shoot, but. we shot it accurately. We had we had real people that. really do this for a living. Wow. And made. it look like what it looks like. I mean, the the people in the room. were bawling their eyes out, and. these are some tough people because. the situation looked like what. they go into a lot of the times. And you see those kids come walking. in that room for sale.

Yeah. It's it's it. you you will b you will become. extremely. sad and violently. angry all at the same time. You will go, if I could. find those people right now, I'd go. get 'em. That's how it'll make you. feel. But they're everywhere. They're in every zip code in the US. There are people that you might. shake hands with every day. There are people that work in your. schools. There are people that work in. government, there are people that.

coach teams, there are all kinds of. people you would never expect. that are involved in this stuff. That's why it's so big. It's like a 220 billion. dollar a year industry, and. America's the number one customer. That's horrifying. So. No no no. No, no, no, no. I mean I think it's. if you know, you have to care about. that. You gotta write. Yeah. Writing a song like that and putting. it out is, I believe, a significant thing to do. That's not something you do for.

success. That's something you do for. significance. Back to the beginning. of our conversation. Because once I put it out there, it's out there forever. Music is permanent and it. sticks. They don't forget about. it. And I'm hoping that it. yields results on many levels. I hope that it wakes parents up. I hope that parents go on and look. at that video we did with DHS and. they go to their kids' phones and. go, we're changing all. that. They can't even get to you. now. That needs to happen. And then I hope extreme. funding starts rolling in.

that this song will start a dialog. that big. That's why I made it so jarring. And that's why I made that lyric the. way it is. The lyric is accurate. Give your soul to Jesus while I get. my gun because I know you're coming. for my kid. Yeah. You're not going to survive this, but I still hope you don't go to. hell. Like that's what the good guy says. Give your soul to Jesus on. your way over because you this is. the last stop for you. You know what I mean? I do. And I think that's how.

most Americans, especially. Christian Americans, they don't want. to ever have to be in a position. like that. No. But it's in 'em. It's just God made us that way. You threaten your children, yeah. That's a different thing. God built this. So I think this will. reverberate, and the reason I. think that is because I mean you're. the only singer I've ever. interviewed twice about something. other than singing, is because the last interview that. we did really had a lasting effect. on me. You w when. we did the interview it was about. your song Revelation. Yeah.

Which I thought was great, but I. didn't understand and still don't. fully understand a lot of the. theology around it. It's not the world that I come from, to put it mildly. But you made a point. about something called dispensational. Dispensationalism. Dispensism. Yeah. The theology of dispensation. And and you and you. criticized and you said you don't. think it's biblical. And I wasn't exactly sure what you. were talking about when we had the. conversation, but it set off a chain. reaction in me. I learned a lot much. much more about it, and it really. did change my views. But in that conversation, you.

said there are a lot of preachers. who will hate this. Then I've never met any preacher, you know, who even knows what that. is. So it's like it's again not my. world. Right. My question is, what. was the effect, the aftermath of. that interview? A lot of preachers hated what I had. to say. Yeah. Did you hear about it? Oh, I w I went on YouTube and I. couldn't watch them all. There were so many of 'em. I mean, some of 'em were ten minutes. long, some of 'em were two hours. long. Responding to your views. Oh yeah. Some of them were sermons. where they would bring it up. I know you've probably seen this.

song, Revelation, and let's. I just want to go into that. Anybody that says that, what John. Rich is saying is a heretic. Actually, that's a bad word. That's a really bad word. A heretic. Yeah. And it's false teaching. and it's false doctrine and it's. Bobby. Also a terrible word. I am anything but false. I have my faults. False is not one of them. I've noticed, yeah. And so I went, Well, we hit. the mark with that because.

their congregations are. now going, I'm gonna go read Matthew 24. John said, Go read it. I don't really know what it says, so. I'm gonna go read it. Right. And I'm telling you, man, I have had thousands. of people on online. on social media hit me up. and say, I just read Matthew 24. twice, like you said, and it. absolutely says that. That is just what it says. I can't believe I ever thought it. was different than that. I like the the whole point of it.

for people that don't know what that. is, dispensationalism. is basically saying that before. the tribulation hits, before things. get really, really bad for. Christians on the earth, that they. will be raptured out of here. They'll be pulled out before the. really bad stuff happens. And it doesn't say that. It actually Jesus lists off. all these things that are gonna. happen prior to his return. And the wrath that. that Christians will be living under. during the tribulation is the. devil's wrath. We're not spared from the devil's.

wrath. We're spared from God's wrath. And God's wrath is final. That's when whoever's. left at that point gets pulled out, and then God pours his wrath out. and the whole thing gets wiped out. And then he rebuilds it, and and. there's a that's a whole other. story. But American Christians and American. preachers don't want to have to. think about the fact that they're. going to have to go through. something difficult. Well, I'm sorry. Why don't you take a little trip. around the globe and go meet with. some Christians who are literally.

meeting in caves and under. and in basements of houses? And if they're caught, they're. murdered or in prison for the rest. of their life. Or chopped up into. pieces, like what's going on in. Syria right now. But they just hack them up. Or go down to Africa, where there's. Christians in mainly. Muslim-dominated countries and. they're actually practicing. Christians. You know what happens to. them? They steal all their kids, they hack up all the men and women, and they move on, and that village. is just gone. And you're telling me that. fat lazy American Christians.

have more of. a right to be spared. pain than. those people? Those people are worshiping Jesus. Christ, knowing it could absolutely. cost them their life, and they're. doing it anyway. That's a r they are elite. to us. They are s they are giants. of Christians in these other places. Yes, I agree with that. Yes, they are elite. They are God's elite Christians. We are not.

We're in America. We have a constitution that protects. us from things like that happening. to us. Right? You can't do that to. Christians in the United States. Now they can come after you and call. you bad names, blah, blah. That's not real persecution. And so I take real issue with. Christians that say God would never. make us go through that. I'm like, what Bible are you. reading? The 12 disciples were pretty. tight with Jesus. Were they spared? No. I would say the 12 disciples were.

probably tighter with Jesus than any. 12 men that ever lived, more than. likely, right? He was tight with some other ones. too. Paul and Daniel. and you know, King David and all. that. But the 12 disciples. all wound up either being. hung, beheaded, imprisoned. for the rest of their lives, whatever. Impaled, really bad things, crucified. Yeah. I mean they crucified the son of. God. I mean, if anybody was going. to be spared from pain, w. don't you think it would be the. actual son of God?

Don't you think he would have been. spared? You'd think he'd get a pass. on that. Do American Christians. outrank Jesus Christ? What an arrogant attitude. that is. There's also a kind of fragile. response to all that like to. you know, so you make these points. and then they call you a heretic for. saying that? That's. Fine, call me that. The Pharisees and Sadducees called. Jesus all kinds of names. They can't stand it when you call.

them out. It really hits them the wrong. way, which is great. It should hit them the wrong way. because they are wrong and they know. that they are. And they bought, they bought into. centuries of that. spin on that particular. subject. And it's just. most Christians don't. think that there's. anything wrong with it because. they've always been taught that. They don't know that that's not. right. So it's just, it's just. ignorance on their part.

They just don't know. But the the real simple trick is, my man, pick up the Bible. and read what it says. Just read it. Just read it down and then read it. slower and then read it a third. time and sit there and think about. it. It goes, it says all. these things are going to happen. before he shows back up. And if I'm alive when those. things are happening, I'm. going to live through that. And the real problem is telling. people that they're going to be. raptured out of here before any. before, for instance, the Antichrist.

shows up or before the mark of the. beast is implemented. They think they'll be gone before. those things happen. Well, that's not true. They won't be gone before it. happens. So what danger does that. put them in? That means if they're alive on the. earth, when the mark of the beast is. implemented, and when the antichrist. shows up and makes himself known and. they're still here, they're not. going to think that's the. Antichrist. And they're not going to. think that's the mark of the beast. And I believe that's part of the. great deception that is talked. about in the New Testament. He says, be be as wise as serpents,

be as Jesus said that. Like the deception is going. to be so convincing. that even some of the elect, meaning the the the elite. Christians, the ones that really. know, even they, it's could be possible to. even deceive them. That's how close the. counterfeit move. will be made. It is going to be something else. And if you have been believing wrong. information and believing a. spin narrative that that's put.

on the end times, you. were in harm's way at that point. Yeah, that's interesting. Why do you think what was the. purpose of this deception? Like this fault what what you call. false theology? Well, what it did was is they. they figured out that if they. would if they would preach. in a way that didn't make people. uncomfortable and told it it. actually was twofold. Make 'em not feel uncomfortable. about it, they would come back to. church the following week.

Yeah. And the church would get bigger. Marketing scheme. Yeah. And the other side of it, which. actually I think had a positive. effect, was they would say. the rapture could happen before. this church service is over. So you better give your life to. Jesus right now. Because this time tomorrow, it could happen. Well, that created a sense of. immediacy for people like, well, I don't want to get left. behind. I don't want to get left. behind. And they would go down and. they would get saved. They'd give their life to Jesus. That's great.

Right. So that that was a positive. result of it. But that you're talking about. hundreds of years now. We're in 2025. We've got AI about to show. up. You know, you wonder how. my dad, he's been preaching since he. was 19 years old, said we. never could understand how. in in the book of Revelation, how they could monitor. every human being on the earth, because that's what they would have. to do to implement the mark of the. beast. We you can't buy or sell. unless you have the mark. Right. Well, he goes, Wish can urge. in how that even be how would you.

implement that? And then he goes, Well, of course, now I mean everybody's monitored. all the time, and that's not even. a question. So all the technology and the. technology that is yet to come. and that yet to be deployed anyway, it's already here, but yet to be. deployed. That's all gonna be that's all gonna. be used in the tribulation. That will be used. So it sounds like from your. perspective we're getting pretty. close. Everything that needs to exist for. it to happen exists now.

But it's up to God. He could hold it off for a thousand. years, but it sure don't look like. it. There are American Christians, including in Texas where you're. from, working very hard, raising. a lot of money to build a third. temple in Jerusalem. On the Temple Mount. What do you think of that? When. it's very important in the Bible to. go back and look up the. original language. of what was said,

because it may say something. a little different than what the. English version of it says. I think that human beings. that try to. instigate on. their own accord, instigate. bringing on what Revelation. talks about and what Daniel talked. about, they go out purposefully. to instigate it.

'Cause they're not God. They don't. get to decide. They're not God. They don't get to. decide what happens. They just don't. We we don't that's. that's up to him how. he wants to see that roll out. And so I I I find it strange. that human beings think that they. can usurp God's. planning and his authority and his. timeline. That's how it appears to me anyway. So when people say we're gonna bring. about the end of history, the end of. time by doing this and we're gonna.

We're gonna force Jesus to come back. when we want him to come back. Y y you're not on board with that. No, I'm not. No. You don't force Jesus Christ. to do anything. If you had to guess, my last. question, if you had to guess where. your life goes in the next. five or ten years, what would your. guess be? Because I've rarely met a more. intense self driven. person.

I would hope that. I continue to do. what I am told, no matter how difficult it. is. If he wants me to do it and shows. me I want you to go do that, that. I will have the fortitude, which. he also has to give you. You have to ask for that too. You don't have your own fortitude. You don't have anything, Tucker. You have literally nothing. You have nothing. You have to ask him for all.

of it. That he would grant me the fortitude. to follow through on what it is he. wants me to do. And my my real. just what I feel like my role is. right now is to. have conversations like this in. front of millions of people. because they're not going to hear. it generally in their church. They're not going to hear it. anywhere. They're just not going to hear it. And I have no agenda with this.

You know what I mean? I don't have a church. I'm not a preacher. I'm not running for politics. I'm not doing any of those things. I'm a guy with no record deal, no. publishing deal. I'm a dad. I have a guitar. I know how to write songs. I can perform them. I can I can take things that need. to be said and put it into the form. of music and put it. out there and hopefully. have serious, serious. impact in two directions. One for the good. people, the righteous people out. there to make them think. To flick light bulbs on in their.

head, go, wait, what did he just. say? What did that song do? And open them up to. receive the real truth of what's. going on. And second fold on that is. to put the most fear. humanly and spiritually. possible into the hearts of the. devil's people of his army. I want them to be, I want them to be able to not sleep. at night. I want them to run. and cower in fear.

because they know who's who. they're up against. And we have to announce ourselves. We have to tell them who we are, and. we have to call them what they. are. They're not somebody with a mental. problem. They are a servant of their. father. They are carrying out their. father's business, and that's what. they are. And guess what? They all have a chance to repent. As long as they got one breath left, they can repent and they can turn, and I pray that they do. But if they're not going to, and.

they're going to stay on the route. that they're on, and they're going. to come for our kids, then they're. going to have to deal with us. It's just who is us. Us have to make ourselves. clear. The song is meant to clarify. to them, to the Sean Combses. of the world, who you're talking. to. Because I don't think you really. understand it fully. And I like that thought. Ha ha. John Rich, thank you.

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