Exposing the Globalist Agenda to Destroy the Family, Sterilize Humanity, and How to Escape It

Terry, thanks for doing this. What do you know about fatherhood? Well, my wife and I just had number. eight, right? So I look, I will tell you. this. When you say just. We might go more- No, no-. But I mean, when did you have number. 8? I died last week. Uh, and you know, she, I was like- I just want to convey. the eminence. To be fair to me, I'm a good husband and father. I did ask her if she. wanted us to reschedule this and. she's such a huge fan of your show.

and everything you do, she was. like, no, you. You have to do it. Don't miss out on. this. Well, that's. that's amazing. So as the father of. eight, yes Why. are you the father? Well, I would say that, you know, I'm the else of 10 kids. Uh, I grew up, uh, working with my dad in our pizza. shop. I had an amazing. relationship with him and. I got to see what being a father is. firsthand. And I had amazing. grandparents and amazing great. grandparents. Um, but even more.

so I just, I love. my wife. Uh, I met her when I. was 20, 20 years old. Uh, we started dating, uh, that's. when we were in a presidential campaign. out in Iowa and I fell. madly in love with her and it hasn't. stopped. And so, uh. you know, I love being a. dad because these kids are. all unique and different, they make the world more beautiful. They're funny. They're bad. Uh, it strengthens me. as a person, but I just,

I love my wife. I love my kids. Uh, I love finding out who. they are, right? Cause when you're raising them, you learn who your children are and. who they're going to become in each. one of them is so different. It's funny, you said in. that, I agree with everything that. you said, but the one thing you said. twice was, I love my wife. So it sounds like your marriage is. at the center. of your thinking of yourself as a. father. Yeah. And I look back at, at, you know, cause marriage is ups.

and downs, right? And you fight and you have. disagreements and you move forward. But any time the only. regrets that I'm going to have on my. deathbed is when I wasn't. as charitable to my wife or I wasn't. as kind and caring. to her or patient. Um, or dismissive, right? Those are the embarrassing moments. of my life and I, I, the only thing I'm going to. regret is not spending more time. with her, not getting to know her. better, but I can fix that I think. over the next 40 years. So I have a million questions for.

you, just based on this two minute. exchange, but can we just go back. to the beginning, if you don't mind. just summarizing your life, you. said, I'm one of 10, I work. with my dad at our pizza shop. So already I know you had an unusual. childhood, can you just explain. that? Uh, well, I grew up in a, uh, the quad cities. It's a Western Illinois and Eastern. Iowa. It's on the Mississippi river, hometown of John Deere tractors. We have our own pizza. styles called quad city style pizza. And, uh. How was it different? Uh, okay. So it's a barley malt crust,

uh which is the number one most. different thing about it and it. gives it a more caramelization. So it was a little bit, I don't. know. It's, it's, uh complex flavor, but then. Than a normal. It's crisper and. it's a medium. crust. So the inside is kind of thinner and. on the outside, the crust is. thicker. It's cut into strips. So if you like crust, you get the corner pieces. If you don't like crust you get the. middle pieces cause they're thinner. But the, the sauce is more.

robust. You know, I, I like. all different types of pizzas. I don't sweet pizza. sauce for some reason, but it's. got red pepper in it. So it's a little bit spicy. The sausage is actually the. most important thing that we have. The thing that makes it most unique. is it's fennel sausage. It's spicier. So if don't want spicy food, you. wouldn't like it. The toppings are. underneath the cheese. So it gives it a steamed effect. instead of a fried effect. It's the best thing ever. I miss it every day. You're making me hungry.

It's like I've never heard pizza. described so precisely or lovingly. Yeah, well, it's a passion of mine. and I am not a believer in. there being just one pizza place. or one pizza that is better than. everything else. There are all these. different types of pizza flavors. There's New Haven style, there's New. York style, St. Louis, Chicago. There's two types of Chicago style. pizza. There's a tavern style. that's also cut into strips, but it's thinner crust and then. there's obviously the Lou Malnati. types, which is my favorite Chicago. style pizza, but.

There's a, there's Neapolitan pizza. I know a lot about pizza. It's one of my passions. It's interesting, I've eaten a lot. of pizza, more than my share, but I. don't know as much, so I need to. bone up. But your family owned a. pizza place. Yeah. And that was where all of. us kids, uh, started, uh. working. Uh, we started working and. I started working at 10, 1996. is when we opened. I was the head dishwasher. What was it called? Uh, St. Giuseppe's heavenly pizza. Um, and there's an interesting. story about my. dad in this in that it's.

called Saint Giuseppi's heavenly. pizzas. Gioseppi is Joseph in Italian and. St. Joseph is the patron saint of. our family. He's the He's. the foster father of Jesus, right? So he's the patron saint of fathers, he's a patron saint of workers. He's an amazing, he is the greatest. non-divine figure. that ever existed, I would say, besides Virgin Mary, obviously. But my dad started this pizza place. to make more money to provide for. the family. I think they had just had number. five at the time, which,

you know, when you become a father, you really feel the economic. pressures and the stress. But before he. opened the pizza restaurant, he was. an insurance salesman. And he worked at Prudential. Insurance and in. the 80s, his parents got. divorced. He was a senior in high. school and he became. a party guy. His dad was a bartender. His mom also worked at bars. They got divorced and it. really adversely impacted his. life. And he experienced terrible. things. I don't want to get into.

that stuff because it's just, it's, it's actually kind of painful. But he got way off track. He got way out of track. And this is during the 80's at the. height of the crack epidemic. Yeah. And you know, they didn't. They didn't nearly have to sell. crack that much. They basically just said, you know, he smoked pot, right? And so he was leaving a liquor. store. This is when you could buy. alcohol at 18, but he's leaving a. liquor store and the crack dealer. said, Hey, you guys smoke weed. And they're like, yeah, thinking. he's going to sell him weed. He goes, you want something better. And he gave him crack and.

crack is obviously one of the worst. substances you can get addicted to. People ruin their lives over it. Only 5% of people that get. addicted, the crack ended up ever. getting clean. So, my dad developed a crack. addiction at the height of the crack. epidemic and he was able to. keep it at bay, or at least keep it. under control. But as part of the filming of this, I sat down with my mom to talk about. her experience as the. wife of a crack addict. One thing that blew me away that I.

didn't remember from my childhood. really, I knew he had a drug. addiction when I was a kid and I. knew it was a problem, I know he. clean. She told me that there were days. where he would go three days. without ever coming home. He would go to work, they'd. go out drinking afterwards, and then. they'd smoke crack and do drugs and. they'd stay out all night. And then he knew he was in trouble, so he wouldn't go home. And he'd go right into work and. he'd work and by the way, he was. very successful at selling. insurance. He, I think he.

was ranked 225. out of 5,000 prudential agents. nationwide. So he's very effective, very. productive, but he'd keep going out. and drinking and he wouldn't come. home until the third night. It really made me think about how. these corporations in America, like. my mom noticed when he wasn't. home for three nights, but Prudential Insurance didn't. care. Why would they care? They don't because he's selling. their product. He's producing value for them and. they probably were okay with him.

smoking crack because it probably. made him more effective and. efficient. And he could get back on. the job. And so I've had this revelation. over the last few years, uh, that. the government's. bad now it's corrupted, but also the industries are bad. The industries will chew you up and. spit you out. And the irony is that there's this. false notion of a. work life balance. It's total garbage. It's a total lie. And it's meant the. entire framing of the work life.

balance is meant to. go to war with life. It is a false dichotomy. set up by industries and. corporations so that you. have to make a choice between your. work and your private life. We'll let you take more vacation. time, we'll let some paternity. leave, but you've got to come back. to work and produce value for the. company, otherwise you're of no. value to us. And it is a way that. they have monopolized. our actual lives. And in my opinion,

based on the experience with my dad, His life turned around when. he integrated his work. in his life. When the pizza shop. came around, he was working with his. sons. He was working his wife. That was the center of our life, was. the pizza shops. And my dad absolutely got. clean. I want to be very clear about. that. So the breaking point was. when my mom was pregnant with number. four, right? And Joseph is his name. Uh, he's the one that runs the.

pizza restaurants now. But she filed for divorce when. she was pregnant with number four. after another three day bender. And there was something really. beautiful in all this that happened, which is if you go back. I quit drinking during my. wife's fourth pregnancy, two. weeks before the end. I think that's when God's like, all. right now. Well, 2026 is likely to be the year. that some companies will find. patriotism. They'll discover it. During the Biden years, corporate. America thought hating our country. was the thing to do, so they did it.

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and get a device. My grandmother finds out that. my mom's divorcing him. She calls my mom and confronts. her, which is interesting, right? Because this is a woman who. absolutely participated in the no. fault divorce culture. Yes. But she said, why are you divorcing. my son? And my mom. said Her name was Pat. and she said, Pat, uh, he's not getting clean. He doesn't want to be married to me. He doesn' want a family. And grandma Pat hung up the phone. She was, she said I'll handle this.

And she sat down with my. dad and said, I just want you to. know, I'll always love you, always. support you. But I never. would have divorced her father if he. asked me not to. And that was the moment where my. dad called my mom and said. I don't want get divorced. I want to get clean. And I think at a deep level, he knew that his problems. weren't just because he was a wild. and crazy guy, he was filling a. major hole in his heart from his. parents' divorce.

And so I, you know, I'm actually grateful that he. developed that crack addiction. because it made him a better person. I totally agree with that. And he chose us, right? He chose us over the. crack addiction. He chose to break. the cycle and the dysfunction and. the chaos that result from. He didn't want that to happen to us. And you can trust a man who's had to. face that about himself. He's not lying to himself. It's so humiliating. It's humbling, right? You have to admit, you know, when. you go through these narcotics, anonymous programs, or any anonymous.

programs, you have to say, I'm helpless against this. I rely on a power greater than. myself. You have, to accuse yourself, right. You have go and apologize to. everyone that you cause damage to. It's, it's such a beautiful program. And, um, the people that. really take it seriously and go. through it end up absolutely. transforming. Well, that's like the, humiliating. a man can break him or make. him. I mean, Jesus humiliates Peter right. at the end. He's like, I'll never leave you. Yeah. You're going to deny me three.

times. Humiliates him and then builds. the church on him because he's been. humiliated. Yeah. I mean I feel like that's, those are the people I trust. Don't you? People who face that? The people that are. They reflect on. their own behavior, activity. Those are the best people in the. world. I totally agree. Rather than the people that blame. everyone else for their problems, like I think a major problem. in our world is that.

There's obviously narcissism and. people obsessed with themselves. There's narcissism. But they blame everyone else for. their problems. And the reality is you have no. control over, Oh, this is an. interesting, you have no, control. over what other people do. So a lot of people don't know this. unless you've been in these. anonymous programs. But my dad was in Narcotics. Anonymous, my mom, so there's a. whole support system for the. families of these people. It's called Al-Anon. And my mom told this story about. how her first meeting, she comes.

in and there's all these experienced. women that have been dealing with. alcoholic husbands or drug addict, addicted husbands. She comes in, they go around the. room, it's just like an anonymous. meeting. And she's like, I just want. to get my husband clean, I'm willing. to do whatever I have to do to get. him clean. And they kind of like. pattern on the head. Uh, Oh, that's very cute that. you think you can change your. husband. You can't, he's not going to get. clean unless he wants to get clean. and that. was, when I learned that from my. mom, it was a major life lesson that.

you're better off doing. self-reflection about where you come. short. And if you really want to. change things and make the world a. better place, you, you have to start. with yourself. I think it's all you can do. Is, you know, take the. plank out of your own eye. I totally agree with that. What's interesting though, is that. for a man with four kids to. admit that he's addicted. to crack, I. do think for most men that kind of. breaks them at that point. It's too much. They can't sort of pick up the.

mantle of father, head. of household again. But your dad goes on to be. successful and have six. more kids. Six more kids. And I served a term in Congress. That's unbelievable. Well, and there was something really. beautiful about my dad's. life. First of all, he got. cancer in 2020. And- At what age? He was 57. No, 56 when he was diagnosed. He passed away the next year when. he was 57 and it was.

advanced stage intestinal. cancer. And they wouldn't have been. able to pick it up even if they did. colonoscopies or endoscopys or. anything like that, because it on. The outside of his. intestines. But the. thing that was beautiful about it. was I went out, I have. a great organization, great chairman. and a great president at the time, and they let me go take care of him. in the last month and a half. So I'm out there and I'm with all my. siblings and you. just want to get out of the house. and clean your head.

from everything that's going on. So I took them all to Target and. we're just getting snacks and stuff. And I tell him like, you know, you guys should just be really. grateful. That he, he's even alive. now because he was, he had a real bad drug addiction. And my younger siblings, and these. are numbers five, six, seven, and eight. And they're like, what are you. talking about? I'm like, that was. addicted crack. They had no clue because. he had transformed his life so. much.

And the thing is, he was a public. figure, right? So he's a member of. Congress. I started speaking about. his crack addiction. As a way to bring people over. and he gave me permission on his. deathbed to talk about it. at the funeral And the. political reporters from back home. were astounded and. there's actually a really. interesting article where they're. trying to call Bs on me saying. that he had a crack addiction. because they had never heard of. anything like this about him. Um, but that's how much. Fatherhood and faith Transformed.

his life was my siblings didn't. even know about it. I mean I knew There would be times. I have very vague memories of my mom. when I'm three, putting me in the. back of the car and going and. driving to the different bars in our. area to try and find him. But it's very vague. My siblings have no recollections. Where are you in birth order? I'm the oldest. How old's your youngest? My youngest sibling is, he just. turned 16. Wow. My mom was pregnant as she. walked down the aisle with me. I had my wife and I was sweating.

That's actually yes. Yeah, it's very beautiful. I love it. I absolutely love it. Yeah, I actually uh. two of my well my oldest daughter, uh, grace who just got engaged. It's wonderful Uh, she is. older than uh, the. youngest youngest brother of mine. our youngest two siblings of mine. That's amazing. So the nightmare I think for any. child and maybe especially. the oldest son is his father's. death. I mean, I think it's something in the back. of your head. You always worry about. it or I always did.

How did it? How do you view it now? Death. It's always going. to be painful, but. there was this moment when he's. literally taking his last breaths. And you know, before, let me go back. actually, earlier in the day, you could tell there was a, when. someone's about to die that day, there's always like a big shift in. them. They actually kind of get anxious. They want to get up and move around. I don't know what it is, but he.

started doing that. And we got him back into bed. He was in a lot of pain. And my mom asked him. Oh, gosh. What can we do? What can you do to help? And he said, I just want my. family and I want Jesus. And that was his call to. us to say, I want last rites. And he wanted to receive communion. And so we got that. And we got the whole family in. there. And He died with. all ten of us.

At his side. That's incredible. Praying for him, thanking, thank you. God for Bobby, you know, and like, that is a beautiful. life and it wouldn't have. happened if. he hadn't gotten clean. If he had stayed a crack. addict and allowed the divorce. to go on, what a max out of four. kids. You know, maybe he got, you, know, add some other woman on the side or. whatever, but he. died with all 10 of us grateful. to God. For his existence and for what he.

did in our life. And it was a beautiful death, right? And I mentioned earlier that St. Joseph is the patron saint of. fathers and workers. He's also the patron Saint of. a happy death. And the story is that he's. the first guy to have a happy because. he died in the arms of Jesus and. Mary. I can't help but get that image out. of my head. I don't think the. concept of happy death even exists. in the West at this point. Hopefully we'll bring it back,

but I feel like. what you're describing. so unfortunately is not even. comprehensible to a lot of people. They don't even know what that means. They're very fearful of death and. it's because we've lost faith. I think in our society, I think. that, um, we rely. on ourselves a lot. I think, um. A lot of those. That's the irony is. human beings are so flawed, right? And you've got, you've. basically got a really corrupt.

system in America, which. is on the left. you have people that just want to. want anarchy. They want to give kids sex changes. They want the government to pay for. it. They want put you. in prison for having the. wrong political beliefs. They want you canceled. But then on the right, you have some of that stuff, actually. Um, but even worse, they're slaves to corporate America. They're slaves of the industries and. the institutions. Um, and it needs to change. And one thing I wanted to share with.

you, I was a 2021. Lincoln fellow at Claremont with. Charlie Kirk, and, uh, I got to know him a little bit. You know, there was, it's like 12. people total. It's 10 days we're in Las Vegas. Uh, Charlie didn't gamble or drink. and I lost all my money on the first. day. So I got the talk to him quite. a bit, but, um, There. was a fascinating discussion where. he was debating with another girl, a woman named Robbie Smith, who's. one of the best people I've ever. met. They were arguing about the. lack of marriage and family. formation in America. Who was to.

blame? Men or women? And Robbie was saying, it's. obviously the men. They're smoking pot. They're watching porn. They're all distracted. They don't want to get married. I've got all these good girlfriends. that want to marry. They can't find. a guy. Charlie said, no, no it's the girl. bosses. It's, it's women wanting to get. college degrees and putting off. getting married, they don't want to. get married. And Charlie turns to me and he says, Terry, you're the guy that works on. family policy. What do you think? And I had a bad answer and. I hate the answer I gave them. But I said, you know, I think it's,

the men because, you know, biblically men are the head of the. household. So it's our job to win. women over and to form our. households. The reality Tucker is that. who's the blame in our society is. our elites. It's all of them. I mean, it's the elites in corporate. America that set the HR policies. that, you know, after Dobbs. passed, or after Dobbs, the decision. came down, corporate America was. tripping over itself for abortion. tourism. We'll pay for you. You're in flight to go and your. accommodations to go to California. and secure abortion.

We'll freeze your eggs. What is that? Well, I'll tell you what it is. It is corporate America saying, if these women have babies, they'll leave the workforce and. there will be fewer people. We'll have to pay people more money. because there are fewer workers in. the workforce because these women. have babies, they'll become moms and. then they'll maybe have another one. They'll have less time to be. efficient and effective. And it's so depressing. It's so sad. But I do feel like capitalism, I.

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once again make more than women and. then people will get married. And the cycle will harden because. when women make more then men, they don't get married because women. don't want to marry men who make. less than they do, sorry. That's not an attack on women. And that's what women self-report. In survey after survey after survey. So when women make more than men, the marriage rate collapses. Duh. That's what happened in black. America. Now it's happened in rural. white America, but it's the same. thing. Well, there's this interesting thing. where you.

look at communist China, right? In the 1950s, they institute. the one child policy and a bunch of. different programs that incentivize. sterilization. Their birth rate in 1960, I think. was 4.45 per. woman. By 1997, they got it. down to 1.53 after. coercive and harsh, tyrannical policies that. really hurt and killed a lot of. people. When the Brits gave up. control of Hong Kong in 1997,

the same year, their. fertility rate under the. loving, gazing eyes. of the Western world, Hong Kong's birthrate was at 1.13, with all the prosperity. Even lower. Over that time, we have. increased efficiency by 90%. across our industries. We're almost double as. effective and efficient as we are as. we were back in 1960. But more of our money goes towards.

the existential level. It was 50% of your income in the. 1960s went to your mortgage, your car, your insurance, all the. things you need to live. Today, it's 80%. So we're more efficient. We're producing way more goods than. we've ever produced ever. But we're making less money. We need two incomes to make it. in America today. And people are buying homes with two. incomes. So when you lose your job, You go into foreclosure. This is all industry driven. Well, why is it, why, why do we. allow people to buy homes with two, with two incomes?

Why are you going to get a mortgage. with two incomes? I don't, all. that's done is it's jacked up the, the price of housing in the. good school district, because. there's only a few good school. districts in the country. And if, if the incomes have doubled, you're in a bidding war now. And we have sacrificed. our lives for. business, for industry, for. efficiency. And we're, we're more miserable than. ever. But they love us back. You know, we were talking about. in the car. I admit it is Apple to. you and your family.

Oh, they hate you. First of all, oh my gosh, the iPhone should be. free. The iPhone should absolutely, they. need the iPhone to deliver all of. their ads and their propaganda to. you and to subvert. everything you believe in. Why do we have to pay $2,000 for an. iPhone? That doesn't make any sense to me. Too humilious, I'm just. guessing. Yes. Is that what it costs? That's $1,500, $1 600 or something. For an iPhone? For the highest. level one. Yeah, I think so.

I don't know. Wow. I don't buy them. I don't t either. They sent them to me. I didn't know that. My office, I didn't t. Wow. Is that really what they cost? Yeah. I'm so out of it. Gosh. I wish I didn't have one. So, you're one of ten. You now are the father of eight. So, I think you're in a pretty good. spot to describe what. makes a good father. I think if you boil what becoming. a father is and what it. means, it's self-sacrifice, which is love.

Right? Victor Hugo, author of. Les Mis, he said that. you can give without loving, but you. can't love without giving, right? And I think the ultimate example of. what a man is, is. Christ on the cross, right. Like here's a guy that. is literally giving up everything. And if you actually read the. passion, he's fighting. all the way up until the final. moment. These people are kicking. him, he's falling, he has been.

beaten and scorched, he is bleeding. profusely. They ripped out. I mean, I saw the episode where you. were talking about that and it was. way more impactful than the passion, I'll tell you that. But you look at the passion of. Christ, he was fighting and. struggling to get to Calvary. the whole time. It was a submission to God's will, but he had to work for it. He had to push himself. to get up every time and he did. it for us. That is what we're called to be. as fathers, self-sacrificial.

I also think the fathers are. merciful, but they're just, right? Someone described this to me, Pat. Fagan, amazing guy who does. a lot of pro-family policy. But he told me the difference. between the devil and Jesus, which. is amazing. He said, you know, the devil always. deviates from the law, but he. shows no mercy when you break the. law. Christ never. deviates from the law, but shows. infinite mercy when you apologize. And I think that's the rule of a. father is to not stray from the law, not stray from the rules, but be.

merciful to your children, right? I think you hear. horror stories about how some. fathers behave, but I. think if you're really doing it. right, you're spending a lot of. one-on-one time with each of your. kids. Believe it or not, even though I. have eight kids, I make time for. each one of them individually. And it doesn't have to be hours at. a time. You can do a five, 10 minute trip to. 7-Eleven, get some snacks. Your kids will open up to you. You get the- You have to have that. one-on-one time with your kids. But I would say that if you were to. boil it all down, it's.

sacrificing yourself for your. children and your wife. It is being merciful and. it's also making sure your kids know. the rules and don't make these. mistakes. Discipline, right? These are the things that are the. most important thing when it comes. to being a father. Well, you often hear people. compare the West, America, Europe, to. Rome. Clearly, Western civilization. is in decline, and at. the same time, you hear another.

set of people tell you that. masculinity is the problem, toxic. masculinity. And young people hear both of these. things, and a lot of them become. consumed by despair. Men are not irredeemable. Men can be stronger, but you gotta. fix one thing before that happens, and that's fatherhood. No society without fathers can. continue. And that's why he made a. new documentary on the topic. It's called Fathers Wanted. What the country needs isn't less. masculinity, it's more steady,

responsible, self-sacrificing male. leadership in a word, fatherhood. Strong fathers build strong families. and strong families build strong. nations which amount to a. strong civilization. Fathers wanted is available right. now for a limited time only on. tuckercarlson.com. How do you keep fathers from. not breaking? I've seen it many, many times where. a father loses his job, he feels like a loser, and then he. starts behaving like a looser.

And then his wife and children are. unimpressed. And so he becomes even. less impressive and just like cycles. out of life, either. literally or just falls apart with. booze or. other assorted self-destructive. activities. Well, I think we're seeing more. and more of that today. Yeah. at an embarrassing level, actually. But the point of a system is what it. produces, not what it says it. produces. And our system today is attacking. men.

You know, I work all the time in DC. We all, all we do is pass laws. and get people elected to help. protect the family. That's what we. do. And you talk to people on Capitol. Hill. You can't bring up all. of the attacks on young boys. in schools. You can bring up the attacks on. young men and how difficult it is. because women have it worse. Still they say that? They all, well, it's starting to. change. No, it is absolutely. starting to change, but you're not, you really can't. There's no, the irony is, is that there's a huge constituency.

with the American people on. this. But when you go to Washington, DC, the. politicians don't want to hear about. it. They definitely don't wanna talk. about it Is that true? Even now? Name, name. Well, they used to say that women. were discriminated, girls are. discriminated against in schools. Well, of course, women dominate. schools completely from top to. bottom. They graduated a far higher. rate at every level than boys do. They used to say, well, women are. paid a percentage of the male wage. Well, women make more than men now, nationally adjusted,

as you know. And like, so the data are in, like, this is not an argument we have to. have. Boys are falling behind, not. girls. And I've just been amazed that. people in D.C. Won't admit that. It's um, it's one of the last. acceptable bigotries is against men. and it's because the news. politicians everywhere in our. culture the the movies we. just saw Paul Ehrlich just died, right? I was actually in the. delivery room. It was a lot of fun. Oh, actually, I was in the delirium. with the eighth child.

Erlich when he passed. yet. And you explain who Paul Ehrlich was. for those who don't know. So Paul Ehrlich wrote this. book in 1968 called The Population. Bomb, and he basically said. that the whole world was going to. collapse if we didn't stop people. from having kids. He was incredibly evil. China's one-child policies, he. didn't go over and advise them, but. they read his books. They used his scores. He wanted to sterilize people. forcibly. He wanted have paid tax. incentives for people that did. sterilize themselves. He wanted it.

to have limits on how many kids. He supported forcing. people to get licenses before. they could have children, right? These are crazy ideas that. I don't know why they took off. But the irony about Paul Ehrlich is. that he made all these predictions. about devastation and chaos in the. world if we didn't address the. population bomb, none of them came true. Literally none of his ideas came. true. The only one that got close to. coming true actually was he. predicted that in 2000, the year.

2000 that the UK would fall. That's like the closest he's gotten. The UK is falling by the way. But not because Britons are having. too many kids. No, it's the opposite. They're not having any kids, right, of course. But Paul Ehrlich was. an atrocious man. But one of the things that. he was very passionate about was. His guidance for television and. movies, if you depict a. family, they should be small. No big families in movies.

How did Paul Ehrlich have the right. to advise filmmakers and TV. producers on what their art should. be? Everyone, everyone was. scared to death. They really, they bought it hook. line and sinker and, um, It's not new Tucker, it's. all so old. The idea that people. are pollution is so old, it's like kind of boring if you look. through. That you sacrifice your children. to the gods in. order to become happy and. prosperous. That's a pretty old. concept.

Well, there's one group, I. actually, I have a joke for you, I'll try it out anyway, is two priests walk into a bar, one's a Jesuit, the other's a. Dominican, they're debating. about who the best order. is in terms of Catholic priests. And the Jesuit says, well, we were. founded by St. Ignatius of Loyola, and we're the most academic, we're. smartest, and were. founded to combat the. Protestants. And saying, sorry, the Dominican priest says, well, I think we have you beat.

We were founded by St. Dominic, who. founded us to. destroy the Albigensians. Who are the Albigencians? When's the last time you've heard of. an Albigiencian? And- They're like the Houthis. They've. never personally threatened me. Well, you would think so. because you haven't heard of them, but their ideas are everywhere. The Albigiensians were a 12th. century heretical. cult of Christianity. They basically believe that.

The soul was perfect and. pure, but that the body and. the physical world were corrupted. And so they started punishing people. for getting married. They started encouraging people not. to have children. The worst thing, anything. pleasurable, if you've enjoyed good. food, that was a sin for. the Albigensians. If you had sex. with your wife, having. a baby was the. biggest sin you could. commit for the. I bet they were against Marlborals. and SUVs too. I'm just guessing. I'm guessing. I know these people.

They're worried about climate. Yes, yes, but they thought the worst thing you. can do is trap a pure soul into a. corrupted body like you're actually. doing this. And those ideas are still here. I see Albigensians everywhere in our. society. Their ideas have not died out. They've just taken different shapes. It's why these corporations. are promoting abortion and egg. freezing. It's way states like. California will take children from. their parents if the parents and. affirm their gender identity. The family precedes the state.

The family is the original. community. It's the original. society. There is no right to take children. away from their parents unless. there's actual serious abuse. But we see these ideas everywhere. and they've taken hold and you've. got obviously Thomas Malthus who. believed that people were pollution, Paul Ehrlich. These guys, their policies. have been. failures. They've caused misery and. chaos and suffering, but they've. taken hold. All of our elite institutions, all.

of our elite institutions have been. pushing these these policies on us. These ideas shape shift, this is my read, all of these. anti-human, anti-god ideas like. Manifest is some slightly. different ideology depending on the. period, whether it's the. Albigensians or the Marxists. or the Green Party. All of those look antique kind of. now, especially even the climate. people sort of gave up on. that. In exchange for.

building data centers, So data centers are incompatible. with green politics because they're. such a massive energy draw. So you need all forms of electrical. generation in order to power these. data centers. But what's the point. of the data centers? It's to create something called. artificial intelligence, which I'm beginning to wonder, I'm. not against all AI, I guess, but I'm. getting to wonder if the agenda. there is very different. I mean, it does seem like replacing. thinking with the judgment of. a machine. How is that different from what. you're describing?

I think it's very similar. At the heart of the entire AI. industry is the. belief that human beings. need AI, that they need some type of overlord. above them that's way smarter, that. can process data. Tucker, that is, that's the worst. thing. So Francis Bacon was. another guy that we've discovered. and he basically. believed he was the art of. modern science or the father of.

modern Science. But he basically believe that human. beings could solve anything. that nature was actually meant. for us to completely. alter and mess with. I think you're with me. I think nature exists. I think it should be respected. There are rules. You shouldn't have sex outside of. marriage. You should be open to. life. You shouldn't steal. You shouldn't cheat. You shouldn's. lie. But these guys want to change. You can't kill the innocent. You can't sterilize the innocent, right?

They believe that they are. their own gods. I had a Dominican priest, I had to. go back to the Dominicans. When the whole sex changes for kids. thing took off, I went to a very. dark place. I just couldn't believe that it was. happening and I kept seeing these. pictures and these The stories are. all horrific. So I call my friend Tim from. Franciscan University, he's a. Dominican priest now, and I'm. lamenting all this. I can't believe they're sterilizing. kids and they're mutilating their. bodies. And he broke it down. He said, what we're dealing with. right now with this issue is two.

things. One, it's very, very old, and two, it is very,very new. The old is the garden. of Eden. It is us trying to become our own. gods and shape all. of everything about us. Even reject the the. Biological sex that God assigned. to you, you know, that God gave. you. But he said that the new is the. technology, you know, previous. societies did not even understand. hormone levels. So we have these new technologies. And that is the Francis Bacon effect.

is the new technologies and. conquering. nature and. reshaping it to. something darker, something that. they can control and manipulate. I don't think you can beat nature, can you? No, nature always wins. That's because God is real, right? There was a designer for. our universe and for our world and. for humanity. And he made these rules. And if you reject them,

you're going to have... BAD TIME. Yeah, that's why I like bad weather. because it reminds you of that. Really? Yes. I mean, it sort of doesn't matter. what your ideology is. If you go out naked in. a snowstorm, you're gonna die. because nature is more powerful than. you. That's just a fact. Yes. And you can change. your sex, I guess, but you can't. change the need to be at 98.6. at all times before you die. So it's like, it's such a great. reminder.

I wonder though, as it relates to fatherhood, like the description of a good. father, because. fatherhood is part of nature, can't be that different from era to. era, right? No matter what we, in the moment. we're living in, describe as a good. Father, there is a kind of absolute. standard for good fatherhood. There has to be, because there is in. the natural world. Yeah. And it hasn't changed.

I mean, there are eternal truths. A good father has always provided. for his family. He's always. protected them. And he's procreated. That's like, you have to procreate. to become a father. Procreate. And procreate. And discipline and teach rules, be merciful, teach your kids, you know, there's a lot of new. studies that have been coming out. over the last 10 years about. fatherhood and how it impacts and. shapes the individual and how it. impacts the shapes of kids. One thing that was very interesting. to me was, I think it was. in Reason magazine of all places,

they wrote about how fathers. are actually the ones that instill. empathy and their children. And how they explained it was that. fathers and men are naturally. Concerned about themselves like. we're kind of in our own heads and. we're always thinking about what we. need to do for our lives And. so like when your kid breaks your. four hundred dollar drill you're. going down and lecturing them and. saying you know hard I had to work. for that four hundred-dollar drill. I can't believe you use it without. my permission I you know, you're not. supposed to do this We get.

kids to think about other people. where it's like the moms are always. gonna be like, oh don't worry about. it Your dad won't just get another. one. Don't feel that bad. So mom's now. mom's build self-esteem. Moms still play a pivotal role. There's a there's a use to teaching. your kids not to be suicidal over. breaking a drill, right? But dads are the ones that instill. empathy. It's so obvious. Women are more empathetic, of. course, or we think of them that. way, but societies in which. there are very few fathers, matriarchal societies are far less.

empathetic. Far less empathic than patriarchal. societies. And you know that, because there are. like massively high crime rates in. all societies run by women. And those are way less empathitic. societies. Like that's the proof. Yes. And, you know, I think largely. I have a friend that. we lament women because. they're hard to understand. They're complicated. And he tells this funny joke. He said, you know what the. difference between complex and. complicated is? And complex, a jet engine.

is complex. There's all these intricate parts. that all logically make sense and. then work together, but it's. complex. So Rube Goldberg machine is complex? Yes, yes. Women are complicated. Yes, that's right. They're hard to. understand, especially if you're a. guy. But there's a whole nature. of that. And I think. that one of the ways that our elites. have really screwed us over is. convincing women that having. a career, having a good job. is the basis of a good. life. And not becoming a mother.

Do women believe that, do you think? Yes, and actually just. recently- You know people who. believe that? I do, yes, oh, I mean, ask any woman. Who actually believe. that though? That think that a. career is the. most important thing for a good. life? Yes, 100%. They don't-. You've met a woman who believes. that. Who believes a career working. at the bank, working at an. AI startup, is actually preferable to having. a husband who loves you, takes care. of you, and provides you children. I don't think there's a woman alive.

who actually believes that. Well, a lot of people that there's a. lot of lies in our society and. people will say the lies. Well, the lies we tell ourselves are the most powerful, aren't they? Right, and women today, I think they all know deep down, they really would do better with a. husband. They really would be. happier with a kid, right? I think, you know, biologically, obviously, with a husband that could. provide, why do you want to go help. Jeff Bezos make more money? Why do you wanna go help Bill Gates. make more money? Why do want to help. all these super wealthy, white billionaires?

Make more money. So you can be quote independent. as you become totally dependent on. a company that has no regard for you. at all as a person. Exactly. I'm so independent. I work at JP Morgan. I'm independent. Yes. Tucker, the thing is. so sad because these women are. missing out. No, I don't know why I'm laughing. I'm at the irony because everything. is irony, but yeah, no, it's the tragedy of America. And the egg. freezing and the abortion tourism,

it's so evil because these. women, my dad. died with 10 of us surrounding him. That's beautiful. That's you don't you're gonna have a. lonely death and how things are. heading. I don't think they tell you that at. your orientation in investment. banking though, do they? I don't think there's any. encouragement to think through to. the end. How does this end exactly? Exactly. By myself? No. In an assisted living community. where there's some, you know, foreign born nurse who doesn't know. my name. That's the end? That is the end actually for a. lot of people.

And we should tell them that at the. start. Like how do you want this to end? That's a totally fair question, whether you're talking about war or. your own life. Like, what does this. look like in the final stage? I think if you go back to the AI. situation, a lot of speculation. that AI is going to eliminate every. single job and we'll all be. prosperous. That's the lie they're. telling us. We won't need to make. money. We won't t need to work. Machines will run our lives. Okay. Fine. Won't need work. Oh, that sounds fun. But let's imagine a scenario though.

where you don't have to work, where. you are living in heaven. You're going to have a family. You're gonna have children. That is the ideal. If you don't have all this noise. around. Well, I don't have to imagine how it. works because I grew up in a trust. fund world. So I know exactly how it. work. And it works where. you become an alcoholic, sleep with. the au pair, you're reviled by your. children, then you shoot yourself. That's what a life of no working. looks like. And then on the bottom end, the. welfare world, which is the mirror. image of the trust fund, it's. the same. It's true despair because.

a man needs work for meaning in his. life. Heat protects and provides. That's where his sense of himself. comes. That's his duty, and if he. doesn't achieve it, he hates. himself. So like a world without. work is hell. It's not it's not. advisable. I've seen it. But the people. that put their careers first and. that, you know, are going along with. this lie, because like, look, they. might not believe it, but they're. doing it, right? And they're living it. And what they're missing out on,

the work is the. what, right? It's what you do. The family is the why you. get a job and you. work hard at it so that you can. provide for your family that. the idea that you have a job. so that you can build a legacy for. yourself is not. right. Not correct. It's not going to happen. No one will remember you, especially. the company you work for the company. that you work for. If you're a woman that is planning. to never get married, that company. is the day you die. The day you leave the company, they.

are going to immediately start. preparing to replace you. Your children can't do that, your. children won't do that unless you're. a bad mom or a bad dad. No, but you're right. But you, you're missing out. on the eternal. You're missing on the why. When you say I need to get a college. degree, an advanced college degree. or I need to get job, I need to put. everything in my life, uh, ahead of my family. Family's not even advisable. Um, it's a disaster. It's an absolute disaster. Yeah, I mean, first of all, you. work, so your wife will be proud of.

you, just to put it in one. You know, your father works so hard. That's right. That's why I say grace at the table. Because I work so hard, no, I'm. mean, that's like, this is actually. nature. And I just feel like the program. that we have sold to. young people in our country is so. unnatural, and like bizarre, and would make no sense to any. so called backward country. They'd look at this and be like, what? And they spend a lot of time. in backward countries, and they do. look at it like, what? That it can't persist, like you. can't, I mean, we're fighting. gravity here, kind of, like this is.

not the. natural order at all. Well, so it's doomed. Well, I don't think it's doomed. I don't think anything's ever. doomed. No, but I mean the. lies that we're telling ourselves. currently, men and women are exactly. the same. They occupy no unique role in. the universe. They just can sort of. choose it, working for. You know, Microsoft is more. meaningful than having five. children. Like these are such. obvious lies that don't they. have to just crumble at some point?

And I do think they're going to be. crumbling here. It can't go on and much. like it now even that you're saying. this out loud. You couldn't if you. send this ten years ago. Right. Yeah. You weren't really, I don't think. the crisis was as big of a deal or. it wasn't as apparent at how urgent. the family formation crisis was or. that we were prioritizing. putting women in the workforce over. family. I mean, I was in high school. from 2001 to 2005. and family was the center of.

everyone's life. And maybe it was. the part of the country I grew up. in. Maybe the Quad Cities is just. better than all these major cities. or East Coast or West Coast stuff. But family was very much the center. everyone's life. Like you. And you learn that from talking to. people at the pizza shop. And, but one thing, one big. change that I've noticed, um, in our society is public. parks. Um, public parks are interesting. because they're in major cities, uh, and space is finite. So when you decide to. put an area up as a public park,

you're basically telling people what. your top priorities are. 50S, 60s, all that. When we had the massive expansion of. parks throughout our country over. the last century, up until recently, they were all. kids' parks. When you say, I'm going to go to the. park, you immediately envision. playgrounds and swings. and merry-go-rounds, all of. that. But today, if you go to inner cities, dog parks. are outranking. kid parks. The kid parks are empty.

Uh, I went to a dog park and I. talked to some of the people there. and one girl, I asked. her, uh, you know, how many dogs she. has. She had two, but she's a dog. walker. I love dogs by the way. I don't want to attack dogs, but the, I talked with another. guy. He said, I ask him if. he was ever planning to get married. and having kids. He said well, I've got all these. international weddings I have to go. to. And that's not the main point we're. developed. We're directing all of. these resources to dog runs and. dog parks. And not kid parks.

In Hong Kong, it's actually. a bit worse in a. way. The parks are actually. for senior citizens. They're low-impact exercise. machines like hip twisters. and all of that, and they. don't have children. Their birth rate is like under, I think it's under It's like 1.09. or something. It's devastating. But these people... Either direct the money and the. resources towards dogs or.

the elderly. If you look at federal. spending on welfare and. entitlements, it's five to. one welfare benefits going. to people 65 and up. We need to start reversing. that back to young. people and families to get them. a more stable life. We're telling the world and our. citizens what our priorities are. every time we build dog park. I gotta think, so that. your breakdown of federal spending, I do think it's an indictment of a.

specific generation, I'm not gonna. name them boomers, but I think. that generation, and the last year it was 1964, the year after the Kennedy assassination, you know, they're on their way out, the youngest are 62, you know the oldest are 80. So once that generation. which has completely destroyed. America, Not all of them, but most. Don't you think there will be. change? I think there'll be a lot of change. These boomers have really screwed up.

our country and they really hurt. young people. The boomers are the most selfish. If World War II was such a massive. success, how did it give rise. to that generation? They came back from the war and had. those people. So I'm not, again, I'm totally very anti-Nazi, I want. to be clear. But if that's. the founding myth of our country, that winning that war was such a. win, then how did they produce the. baby boomers? Well, I there's probably a lot of. reasons. There's a lot reasons, but. there's something really heavy going. on there Like how could you wreck it.

all with one generation? I think that the. greatest generation, the World War II generation, they. went through the depression, they were through a world war, some. of them went through two world wars. I think they were ready for. prosperity. Right. And I think that they kind of. spoiled their children there. I sat down with Bishop Robert Barron. and he told the. story of King David. and one of his. sons. So, Absalon,

who killed his... He killed his brother, he. tried to overthrow his King David. as the king, he rose. up and that's what we're seeing. And then he got killed. He got killed by God, basically. But this. is what we are experiencing with the. Boomers, is they are Absalom, they. weren't disciplined, they didn't. have to go without... You know, my great grandmother, it. helps being from a big family. because the eldest, I got to know my. great-grandmother. She was 64 when I. was born. She lived another 31.

years. And the stories I would hear from. her, I was always grateful, right? I think that greatest generation, at least for me, instilled. gratitude. And I don't know why it. didn't translate to their children. because their children are only. entitled. And there's, and you said it. earlier, there's a lot of good ones. out there. But. The majority, I think, are very. self-centered. They were the generation that gave. us all of this nonsense. Oh, I know. I'm very aware. And they're sitting on all the.

wealth. They're sitting in multiple. homes. And here, let's go back to this. There are so many, we. give so much more resources. You know, in the big, beautiful. bill, I liked most of it. They give $6,000 checks to. senior citizens. They don't need money! They have all the money, they have. all the homes, they're not selling. them. It costs $750,000. in like to get a town. home in DC, families can't afford. Town homes. are for families. They're for new families actually.

And they're supposed to be. affordable, but now they're $750. thousand because the. boomers aren't selling their. multiple homes, you know, in. California. There's this interesting dynamic. where there was a. lawsuit that was challenging whether. or not you could do property. tax freezes for senior citizens. They were arguing, the people that. were challenging it were saying this. is age discrimination. You can't allow. them, give them a different set of. rules than the rest of us. And the courts obviously ruled in. favor of the boomers because the. judges are all boomers.

But it's insane. that we are freezing property taxes. For these boomers who got. their homes for eight. raspberries and a blueberry and. a horse. They've had so much appreciation of. the value of their properties, it's. skyrocketed. Why do they get tax relief when. working families? The burden and the tax burden and. the onus is all on young families. And we need to start reversing this. If we don't start reverses this, young people are not gonna get. married.

Well, they're also gonna get really, really dark politics. And I interviewed Nick. Fuentes, who I. disagree with on a lot, earlier this. year and was attacked for it, whatever. But one of the main reasons I wanted. to talk to him was like, this guy's. super popular. Like, what is he saying? What is this? This is a totally different kind of. politics, completely different kind. of politics than anything I've. covered at 56. Like, I'm just interested. And one of the things I learned from. the experience was younger people.

have totally different politics. And by my standards as a. middle-aged person, they're pretty. radical. Yes. And how did that happen? Well, it happened by taking away all. their opportunity and then ignoring. them when they complained about it. So of course they have, and by the. way, my sense is that Nick Fuentes. will be considered pretty moderate. very soon. So like, if you want a. stable, moderate country, you have to take. Care of people and. give them opportunity. There are massive consequences for. behaving this way.

You want more fathers, you want more. families. If you want to moderate in. politics, you want people that are. serious about solutions to. problems that actually are willing. to address problems. You want, more fathers. You want to more mothers. You want children and families. because when you become. a father, when you come a husband, you're thinking long-term. No longer thinking. It's the ballast in a ship. Yes. It keeps it steady. Yes. Like, I'm a dad. I've got kids. Can't get too crazy because I've. gotta children. I mean, that's just like a baseline. impulse, don't you think, in.

fathers? Yes, these. kids are being radicalized. because they don't, most. of them are products of the divorce. generation. So you have like. compounding dysfunction there. They're not only did their parents. divorce, but their parents' parents'. divorce. And so, you know, I went into my marriage under the. belief that this is the most. sacred of all the. agreements I'm ever going to sign in. my life, right? I can sign contracts with. corporations, I can signed business.

deals, but this is the one I can. never break. It has to come before. everything else. But this whole no fault divorce. situation basically said, no, your marriage is actually the. least important of. all the agreements. But the only thing that the only. agreement you can't break in modern. America is paying your credit card. interest And I. suggest because i'm totally for not. paying your credit card interests I. think you should stiff city bank. That's my personal view and i've. suggested that before.

I don't know, put the bank out of. business, how about don't pay? And they looked at me like I was a. freak, and that may be freaky, I'm. not actually in real life suggesting. that, though I kind of am, but the. same people are like, yeah, well, it. didn't work out, I got divorced. So that just tells you where the. priorities are. It's immoral to stiff a bank, but. it's okay to stiff your wife? How does that work? Are those values? Well, it's obviously predatory. It's obviously, you know, not. treating the human person as a child. of God, right? They're treating us like hogs in a. machine. That's what the elites in.

all the industries view us as, is pieces to play on the field. that can make our products and do. our services. They don't look at you as a dad. They don't look at as a husband. They want you back. in the workforce for maximum. efficiency. And by the way, You're reading all about these. artificial wombs and egg freezing. and IVF and all of that stuff. I don't judge or attack. anyone that's gone through IVF. except, you know, if you buy a baby.

as like a gay couple or something. I think that's really messed up. But I think that makes you a. conservative leader if you do that. Yeah, you get a podcast, you get to. yell at other people, talk about. conservatism, the Trump coalition, yeah. But the, no, those are no, I know it's sorry, sorry, but it's, it's the commodification. of the human purse. And that is ultimately, you know, you're, I love your actual, I kind. of love it. I'm not endorsing it. specifically. I need to do more. research into it, but not paying. your credit cards sounds like a. great way to get these credit card. companies to stop preying on.

Well, how about, my idea was like, let's have a, hey, let us not pay. our credit card party, where that. is the only bullet. point on the agenda, is we. all agree not to pay our, and just. to negotiate terms, like, because. Trump was always bragging about how, well, you know, if you take a big. enough loan from a bank, they have. to negotiate with you. Like, you are in charge, because. they are exposed, because it is just. too much money, which I get, I am. not criticizing it. But like, why not create a union. to do the same for the entire. public? Like stop sending credit. card solicitations to kids. Stop charging 20% interest.

Like that should be illegal. That's ridiculous, that's usury. The mafia used to go to jail and to. RICO for that, but it's okay for. Citibank? That's all I said. And it was like, what? What? I was like oh, I found the tender. spot. Well, this is what really annoys me. about Republicans, and, you. know, they're so corporate-centered, they're like free-market-centered. When Trump mandated. that credit card companies couldn't. go over 10 percent... All these libertarian right-wing.

think tanks sort of criticizing him. as an enemy of the free market. If that's an enemy in the. free-market, then consider me one, right? Because they're taking advantage of. poor people. Rich people don't really use credit. cards. They pay them off every. month. But the poor people are. the ones that pay the interest. And that's why it needs to be. broken. We still have payday loans. Weapons, dude. I mean, the only. kind of capitalism they seem to. really endorse is like sending tax. dollars to weapons companies. And I'm like, I'm a wuss or. something if I'm not for that or a.

peacenik, which I'm obviously. unlike. Yeah. Anyway, don't even. get me going. Okay. So let me just let me end on. this because I a more positive. note. It's about your sad and. because You clearly. consider him a great father and. you've become a father of eight, which is just amazing. God bless you. Thank you. What did you, trite question, but I think you probably have a real. answer. What did learn from him? Like as you go about the business of. raising eight children, what do you, when do you think about your dad?

Oh, that's a great question. I think about him a lot. I think of him every time I. hold a new baby. You know, my dad, this is actually. advice for anyone that becomes a. father or is going to have another. kid. If you're the dad, one, you got to be in the delivery. room and you got a look, right? One, you've got to watch that. kid come out. And I know- That's a. wild experience. Oh, it is incredible. It is so euphoric. But you're first guy that gets to. see that kid's face. Yeah. And, you know.

Your wife's going through all this. hell, like pushing this kid out or. getting your stomach ripped open. The least you can do to participate. is to see your child come out, right? But he advised. me on the first one, and. I haven't ever looked away since, and it's such a special experience. But I think working. hard, my goodness, sacrificing yourself, accusing. yourself, And my dad, uh, and accusing your kids. I think it's okay to accuse your. kids and my dad, because of his. addiction, he always was paranoid.

that one of us kids was. a drug addict. And it's good to be paranoid. One time, we. work in a pizza restaurant, you get. tips when you clean out the tables. and all that. Well, my brother is just weird and. he keeps his dollar bills like. rolled up. I'll never forget my dad was like, topping it down to see if there's. any coke in it and it's like, dad, I'm not doing coke, but that was. actually him loving us because he. was thinking. Well, I did crack, so it's. not impossible- I found a rolled-up. bi-. I found a rolled up bill in one of my. kid's pockets. That would be the.

first thing I would think. Yeah, yeah, obviously and. he was at the time you're offended. Like how could you ever possibly. leave? I would you know kids are so. offended, but he was a crack addict. And I think I think one of. the benefits of having a crack at it. as a father like people hear that. like oh my Gosh, that must have been. so terrible I'm grateful for it. and it prepared me for the world we. live in today Which is like Jen's. ears are all being raised by. these women on amphetamines and. SSRIs and in Xanax. and all of that so it helps me. relate to them and actually connect.

with them uh, to know what they're. going through and it helps me speak. to them. Um, Do you think they have. a sense that their parents are on. drugs? Yeah I don't think the parents. hide. I mean, it's hard to hide. these women. It's like a whole thing they. compete they brag about the the. drugs that they're on the pharmaceuticals. and You know Tucker, I just. want to say that The. the industries have monopolized our. time so much and taken over. our lives That these poor. women and men at this point have.

to take Adderall to have the energy. to do their job every day But then. they have to the anti-anxiety. medication to combat that. and then they're taking all these. other pills You take. a pill, then you have to take pills. to combat the side effects of it. all. That is what these industries have. done through this fake concept. known as the work-life balance is. they've monopolized our lives and. taken over where we need. pharmaceutical drugs just to exist. and be happy. Do you feel like change is coming? Some type of change. I don't know if. it's going to be good, but it seems.

pretty dark. It seems very dark right now. 40% of Gen Zers say. they don't want to get married, 43%. Say they don't want to have kids. That's insane. That is not a sign for. hope. Now, I do think they have those. other charts where I think there is. some hope, which. show that liberals and progressives. and these types, they're not having. kids, but the Christians are. I think that's a very good sign for. our country. I just don't know if it's in time. I hope it is.

If times are going to get bad. though, you want to. I think I think one thing that we've. really got wrong man team. That's it. That that's what matters. christ Christianity is what we're. here for right if god actually. exists then he's the full story. If you actually believe in god, you can't Not believe. that he's The main character he is. the main character and we live by. his rules But if. times are going to get bad you want. to have kids the bible is very. clear Children are a blessing.

from the lord Right, they're. a blessing for the lord Blessed is. a man whose quiver is full, he will. not be left in shame as his. enemy is at the gates. We need more kids. So I mean, we're going. to keep going. We're open to. whatever God sends us. Because I don't think I have a right. to tell God no, right? If my wife gets pregnant, I think. there was a divine hand in that. And he's saying we need, you know, there's an old proverb, I. forget who said it, But every.

new baby born is a sign from God. that he wants the world to continue. And he's sending his helpers. He's sending us people that have. different skill sets, different. dispositions. And so we're going to keep taking. them. Who wouldn't want to like sit at the. head of a big table and be the. patriarch? I don't understand that. That seems like the most basic. desire of the male heart. I thought that's what men did want. Well, I've always wanted that my. whole life. I think dogs running around, little conversations going on at the. end of the table.

It's the best, dude. It's, I mean, like what else is. there? Yes. No amount of room service or. carnival cruises or weekends in St. Barts could approach the deep. joy and satisfaction of sitting at. the head of a table of your. descendants. It's like the greatest. thing that's ever been. Doesn't, I thought... Everybody thought that. Well, I think that. the issue. is the single life, the unmarried. life, the childless life, it's very. comfortable. It is fun,

you can do whatever you want. It's innocuous. It's like weed, right? Weed seems to be like it's. not a threat, like it not a big. deal. But people will go 40, 50 years. smoking pot every day. And then by the time that time is. over, they look back at their life. They can't remember anything. They don't know what happened in. their life about aim. I've smoked a lot of weed. No, I hate drugs, but I have done it a lot and. talk about aiming low Yes, like that's what you want to not. remember or something like.

why wouldn't you want a sit at a. table with your descendants? I mean, that's just like. Well, the single life is just as. innocuous, or innocuous. It is, it doesn't. seem threatening. It actually seems, you're told by every corner. of our society, by the elites, that being single and child-free. is actually prosperity, is. actually human flourishing. So these people, these poor people. have been lied to, they've been. manipulated into serving. the state and their corporate.

masters. Man, that's the lamest thing to ever. want. It is, it is. Terry Schilling, thank you for this. Congratulations on trial number. eight. It's incredible. I know that when people, I'm sure. like they say catty things to you. when you get on airplanes, but deep. down they're envious. Thank you Dr.