Everything You Should Know About Dan Crenshaw, How He Got Rich & Why He’s So in Love With Ukraine

I'm so grateful that you're here and that you're  running against Dan Krenshaw. I don't just because. I don't think Dan Crenshaw um is the worst person  in the world or anything like that. I feel sorry. for Dan Crenshaw. He's clearly a very troubled  guy, but it just does seem like the Republican. party shouldn't have to have a Dan Krenshaw  in it. And I think you're going to beat Dan. Crenshaw. And I just I just want to say thank  you for doing that. I'm honored to be here with. you. I really am. So, uh, I've been jealous of  you because my wife loves you so much.

So, you rep, you're in the Texas House. Um, you  represent an area that overlaps with Crenshaw's.

district. Obviously, you live there. It's one  of the most conservative districts in Texas, I think it's fair to say. Oh, yeah. Montgomery County is  absolutely the reddest of red counties. Yes. Um, Tarrant County is bigger, but it's purple. We are  the biggest red county left in Texas and 100%. of my district is inside congressional district  2. So, that would mean it's probably the biggest. by population red county in the United States.  Absolutely. Absolutely. Once we lost Harris County. to voter fraud. Um. Yes. So, how does that the  biggest I'm I'm just kind of guessing. One of the.

biggest Republican counties in the United States  get Dan Crenshaw as a member of Congress. Like, how does that happen? So, this is my mea culpa.  Is that how you say it? mea culpa Yeah. You're. admitting fault. in 2018 when Dan Crenshaw came  around. Uh it was kind of a man crush for me. Yeah. Yeah. Navy Seal war hero. Yeah. And I only  knew one person there like eight people in that.

race and there was only one person that was kind  of emerging as as the person that was going to. win. And he was kind of a rhino. He was he was  very weak. And this guy comes along that says, "Look, I'm going to upend the apple cart. I'm  going to be a disruptive influence. I am going. to absolutely stand against the swamp." or as Ted  Cruz called it, the Washington cartel. Yeah, I'm. going to stop it. I'm going to fight it. And so  we got behind him and damn, I would have voted for. him too if he said that. Um so um I encouraged our  local Tea Party to mail into the district to spend.

money into the district and help them raise money  to move move mountains to get Dan Crunch elected. So I feel a sense of responsibility for this major  screw up because no sooner did he get there than. he became part of the problem. Oh, he became a  leader of the problem. And I and I have to say, what year was that? 2018. I'm I'm sure he has  official opinions on issues related to Texas or. the United States, but it's also very obvious to  me watching him carefully that his real interest,

all his main interests are outside this country.  So, it doesn't seem like his agenda really has. anything to do with America. It's self-interest  more than anything. you you see this revolving. door on the part of people in Congress that line  themselves up for lobbying positions as soon as. they leave Congress. And so in order to get those  kind of cushy jobs, you've got to do the lobby's. bidding up front early on. He's a young guy,  right? Yeah. And um he's not the kind of person.

that's going to be there for 20 or 30 years. He  is the kind of person though that's going to line. himself up for a cushy lobbying position once he  gets out. And so you've got to go along. cannot. you cannot ruffle feathers. You can't go against  leadership and you can't go against the lobby. Well, not only does he not go against the lobby,  I mean, his campaigns are the most we pulled. the numbers. The most recent um one that I saw  suggested that his two biggest donors are giving.

him money because of his foreign policy views. One  is a foreign lobby, I think, is his biggest donor. One of them literally a foreign lobby. And the  other is a hedge fund guy called Clifford Aznes. who's, you know, I would say one of the sleazier  people in American business. There's that, but also is not paying Dan Krenshaw for anything  related to the United States. It's only has to do. with influencing his vote on questions pertaining  to other countries. I mean, it's the opposite of. America first. It's America last. Yeah. It's been  my greatest heartburn is his total disregard for.

the border and what we've been dealing with at the  Texas border and yet his obsession with Ukraine's. border. Yes. What is that? I I mean I can't get  my arms around it. So 3 years ago we went down. to the border and um pretty much all of the Texas  delegation was there. Um Mike Johnson came from. Alabama or from Louisiana. Yep. Um the southern  state congressional members came down to be with.

us and we interviewed ICE agents, we interviewed  US border patrol. We we interviewed US Border. Patrol uh union. We interviewed ranchers. The  only person from the congressional delegation. that was not there, Dan Krenshaw. It's like why  don't you want to know about what's going on down. here? This is not about working with the Mexican  government. This is about on on boots on the.

ground right down on the border understanding what  we're dealing with down here. So you understand. firsthand what's really truly going on because he  has no clue what's really going on. But you're in. Houston. I mean it's not that far. Houston has  been completely I have family there and I so I. go completely transformed by illegal immigration  completely. It's unrecognizable and it hasn't. gotten better. It's gotten much worse. That's my  read as a visitor. But how could he ignore that? 58% of the births in Texas are Medicaid births.  58% 58%. So, think about this a second, Tucker.

20 years ago, Medicaid was 3% of the Texas budget.  Now, it's the number two driver of the budget. And. it's due in large part to illegal immigration.  People come across the border, have their babies, sometimes they go back, sometimes they don't. So,  that's like collapse. I mean, that's that's not. sustainable. Not even in the short term is that  sustainable. Good-hearted people want to say,

"Well, we should do this." And to which I say, I  think God would say, "We should do it. We should. do it." Not the government. Exactly. We should  do it. The church, you care so much. Use your. own money. The church should do it. We used to  We used to go down to the Mexican border. I mean, to the border towns in northern Mexico and build  churches. We would build schools. We would build. homes. Um, we would go down there and do medical  missions work. we can't go down there anymore. because Mexico, for all intents purposes, is a  failed state. I mean, it really truly is. It's.

a failed state. And so, you can't go down there  anymore. And so, people say, "Well, we can't go. down there anymore. Therefore, the United States  government needs to bail this all out." No, it's it we're we are destroying our children and  grandchildren's ability to have any kind of future. whatsoever. We're we're drilling holes in the  bottom of the lifeboat. What I mean, Krenshaw. doesn't know this. I mean, his constituents, I  know, are upset about it because I know a lot. of them. Tucker, he came to a town hall meeting um  three years ago when the Senate bipartisan, which.

anytime you hear a Senate bipartisan border bill  run, run fast, right? Um Democrats are not looking. for any kind of solution on the border. Democrats  are not looking to close the border. They created. this. They completely created this. And so they  have this whackadoodle bill that allows 5,000. people into the country a day, 8 1.8 million a  year. And if you look at the bones of the bill,

yes, the bones of the bill say did call for more  ICE agents, but it wasn't to close the border, Tucker. It was to process people coming in  to the country. So alls it did was it just. streamlined their ability to come into the  country and be lost into the system. Okay, show up for your court date in a year and  a half, two years, which they don't show up. for. They're gone. They're lost into the fabric of  the nation. And you know, they're a drain on our.

schools. They're a drain on our infrastructure.  They're a drain really huge drain on our criminal. uh criminal justice system in Texas and across  the United States. It's killing us. Well, they also make it impossible to have a cohesive  country. I mean, if a huge percentage of the. population just got here, then what is it to be  American? No one is pausing to ask that question. And when there is a financial downturn or a  natural disaster or we're tested as a nation, how do we hold together? Yeah. 20 years ago, a  friend of mine that grew up in Toronto said, "The.

great thing about America is that you're a melting  pot where Canada's more like a quilt and we're. tearing apart at it seams." Yes. Um, y'all have a  common language. Did I Did I just say y'all? Yes, I did. It's okay. Um, you have a common language.  We don't have a common language in Canada. Um, we have French and we have English. And, um, in  America now, we have English and we have Spanish. And we are becoming a quilt that is tearing apart  at the seams. Yes. And do you feel that where you.

live? Oh, terribly. Yeah. Terribly. You you see  it especially see it in the classroom right now. We keep hearing the left say we're losing teachers  in public education because they're not being paid. enough money. Well, it's not what the polling is  telling us. I sat down with te Texas classroom. teachers association in 2019 and I said quality  of life, violence in the classroom, teacher pay,

what's the most important issue? quality of life  and and violence in the classroom. Violence in the. classroom. Violence in the classroom. Teachers are  being assaulted like you have never seen before. I. mean, there was one school in the state of Texas  and I think it was on Tik Tok, 72 assaults or I'm. I'm sorry, 72 fights on that were recorded.  So that's basically two fights a week in the. school that were recorded and that were on TikTok.  And those are just the ones that they've caught.

And you see this in classroom after classroom  after classroom. So you bring you bring children. together that can't speak the language and then  you poison them with critical race theory to tell. them that the children of color are oppressed  and the white kids are oppressors. What could. go wrong, right? I mean, it's just you got a  lot of attacks on whites as a result of that. You have and a lot of attacks on white teachers  as as well. And um again, a lot of this it stems.

from what we've done with the border and our our  unwillingness to close the border. This is not. about understanding better understanding what's  going on in Mexico. Mexico is a failed state and. um we've got to treat it like a failed state.  We've got to close the border. Where do you keep. your most valuable possessions? Not your neck tie  or a pair of socks, but things you wouldn't want. to replace or maybe couldn't. Heirlooms from your  parents, your birth certificate, your firearms,

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that you customize. You're going to dig it. We  definitely Plus, they're good-looking, I will say. And yet Krenshaw, every time I've seen him speak,  um it's about Ukraine's sacred borders, its. territorial integrity, standing up for democracy,  fighting Putin, Hitler, whatever. Um what is why. the emphasis? I mean, I I think it's fair to have  views on all kinds of foreign questions, but in. his case, it's so much the center of his focus.  Why? I you know and I get that you you can go from.

Trump was you know Russia went into Crimea right  under under Barack Obama in his silly line in the. sand and Trump came in and where Obama had given  them blankets and band-aids Trump came in and gave. them you know anti-tank missiles and he gave them  serious weaponry to stall the the Russians and And.

Biden comes in and does the exact opposite, right?  But starts talking tough. And I I so I guess I can. get initially saying, "Okay, I want to get back  to doing what Trump did." But the obsession that. he that he displayed in the midst of it was was  sickening. Was absolutely sickening. Especially. again when you call into account the fact that  we have an open border in the south and he was. doing nothing to help us. In fact, when the Senate  deal came about, he held a town hall for elected.

officials in our district and I put my hand up  and I said, "Dan, you're allowing 5,000 people. into the country a day." And he he just absolutely  was totally pissed really that that I was bringing. this up. And I'm not the only one. Senator Kraton  also was like, "We cannot do this." And he said, "You guys should be absolutely thankful that  we're doing something now to close the border. because you can't do it." I'm like, "We have done  it. We just need you guys to stay the hell out.

of the way. We could clo Texas on its own could  close the border. We just need you to keep out of. our business. If you're not going to help us, get  out of the way." And he was just emphatic that we. couldn't do it. We needed we needed um to pass  this legislation. Meanwhile, Trump was saying, "You don't need any legislation. You just need  to close the border. You just need to show some. some stones, some backbone, and close the border."  Well, you don't have a national guard in Texas. I. never understood that. But um but I'm interested  in his reaction. I've seen this with him a lot,

and it suggests that there's something I think  he's mentally ill. I'm just going to say that. I'm not saying that it's an attack. I'm saying  that with sympathy. There's something really wrong. with him. I think he was damaged by his service.  I think it's partly our fault as a country for. sending these guys into these horrible positions  and then not helping them when they come home. I. know that you help run Mighty Oaks, which is  a group dedicated to helping servicemen when. they come back so they don't kill themselves.  So, I know you spent a lot of time on this. So, I don't want to attack him too much personally  because I want to be compassionate, but boy,

I've never seen any elected official respond  to criticism the way he does. I mean, it's like. anyone who asks him a question, it's like, you're  evil. I saw him recently say, "If you don't agree. with me on this foreign policy issue, you're  evil." It's like, "What is that?" You you you. can't enter into any kind of dialogue with him. He  just takes it personally. He gets offended. He's. completely thin skinned over it. I just can't.  And attacks you for asking. Then attacks you and.

attacks your integrity, your character, and your  and your intellectual capacity. I can't I can't. put words to it. So, who's for him? I I think the  lobby is absolutely for him. I think establishment. Republicans and you know the Carl Rove, the  Associated Republicans of Texas are for him. That it should be called the Associated Rhinos of  Texas. But, um it's so sick. These guys Associated. Republicans. Associated Republicans of Texas.  So, they come after conservative Republicans.

every two years. I've got one of the most  conservative voting records in the Texas House, like in the top five, top four. Um, my last four  sessions. Um, I've passed some really important, critically important, comprehensive legislation  that's part of the Republican priorities, banning critical race theory in the classroom,  banning the social transitioning of children. Um, and yet this group comes after me every two  years. two two election cycles ago, they spent.

three $400,000 against me and um were able to  get 36% of the vote. This last election cycle, the Associated Republicans of Texas spent $700,000  against me and got 34% of the vote. Really? But. Dan Krenshaw helps fund him. Why? So he takes  his lobbying money and he writes checks, tens of. thousands of dollars to the Associated Republicans  of Texas that isn't doing anything to help us. expand the majority in the Texas House. Oh, they  just come after the conservatives. It's trying.

to make you more like Democrats completely. Yeah.  So, what is it and who runs it and where does its. money come from? It's Carl Rove. Um, and it's it's  just kind of big establishment money, lobby money. Carl Rove. Every time I ask someone involved  in Texas politics, how does this conservative, this great state get such horrible, like how  does a John Cornin or Dan Krenshaw get elected. in Texas? They always mention Carl Rove. You car  Texas is the eighth largest economy in the world.

Our economy is bigger than Russia. Our economy is  bigger than Australia. It's bigger than Canada. It's bigger than Mexico. It's a huge economy.  We we have a 300 plus billion dollar budget, right? And so when you're talking state budget,  state budget over 300 billion dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. per benium. And so when you're talking about  that kind of money, it attracts a lot of bottom. dwellers. So you hear about the Washington cartel.  Well, it's pretty much the same thing in Austin,

Texas. It um there's just a lot of money, just a  ton of money. and they will get fixated on things. like bringing gambling to Texas, as an example.  Um, the neocons desperately want to bring gambling. to Texas. Why? I'm very libertarian on this issue.  Like, if you want to have a card game and you want. to gamble, what you do in your in your house is  is up to you. It's none. It's none of my business.

But at the end of the day, if you're going  to say this is state sponsored and we're only. going to give out two or three licenses and we're  going to give them out to our friends that have. given tons of campaign money, right? Then it's  corrupt. It's it's crony capitalism to the max, right? Does it improve people's lives? Does it  improve people's lives? And at the end of the day, you look at any you look at any of the states that  have implemented it. Oh, yeah. And we have we have. a national treasurer in Houston by the name of  Jim Mackenal. His name is Mattress Mack and he.

owns Gallery Furniture. He's the most amazing  man in the whole world and he's a gambler and and. uh he would say the worst thing that Texas could  possibly do would be to bring gambling to Texas. Why? You they build these billion dollar resorts,  right, with cash, these multi- multinational. corporations. What happens to that money? People  go and gamble and that money leaves our economy, of course. So, you have less money moving  within the economy. And they'll say, "Well,

yeah, but it's a it's a great uh tax revenue.  It's a there's great tax revenue from it." Yeah, but eventually the pool in which you're drawing  from dries up. Well, where's it worked? I mean, it was going to save the state of Maine, for  example. No. It was going to save East St. Louis, Illinois? No. It was going to save Mississippi GF  Coast? No. So, is there a place where gambling has. actually made people's lives better? just enrich  like some of the worst people in the world. It's.

it's it's all it is. And this past session, the  past two sessions, they've been trying to do it. and they um I got a call from the lobbyists, which  they assigned two lobbyists to me. So, there are. 150 House members. Each of us had two lobbyists  assigned to them for gambling. And it became the. no lobbyists left behind session when it came  to gambling. and and um they're like, "Hey, we want to write you a $25,000 check for your your  re-election campaign." I'm like, "I I don't want.

it. We're not asking for your guaranteed vote  in favor of it." No. And I'm like, I I don't. want it. If Planned Parenthood wanted to give me  money so I could vote against Planned Par uh vote. against abortion, I I would take that money so  I could vote against abortion. But I'm not going. to take your dirty money that came at the hands  of somebody that lost their house or lost their. marriage or lost their business as a result of  it. Just dirty money. What What were the gambling. lobbyists like? Some of the nicest guys. Charming,  I bet. Very wonderful people. Did they call it.

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appreciate Dan Patrick over in the Senate because  he pretty much guaranteed that as long as he's. going to be the like like of um and hopefully  um Brandon Kraton will will come in after him. will do the same thing. I think he will. But I  don't think it has a future in Texas thankfully. Gambling. Gambling. Um and I want to be clear on  this. Casino gambling. Again, you want to have. card games at your house, invite people over and g  I don't care. Bringing in casinos. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, wow. That's So, where was Stan Patrick on this?  Did he He killed it over in the Senate. Okay. So,

he's lieutenant governor. And where was Krenshaw?  Silent. Really? And that's the that's the problem. is that, you know, there's so many there's so many  things that are threatening Texas right now. And. Dan Krenshaw has been absolutely silent. So in  200, it was 2014 when Abbott became governor and. when Ken Cen Paxton became the attorney general,  those guys won with 23 and 24 point margins over.

the Democrats. We're winning now with eight point  margins. Where did where did the margin go? Where. did where where did these huge wins go evaporate  to? And it's not people moving into Texas. Seven. out of 10 of them. Tucker, Texas is still red  from people moving into it. Republicans that. um are refugees, if you will. Where we're losing  is our children. Our our kids, our our kids are.

being absolutely indoctrinated in the classroom  and immigration. I grew up in California. I was. at Reagan's last rally in California in 1980 and  it was a right-wing state. It was California was a. I mean Bill Clinton lost California in 1992 and  won West Virginia in 1992. So like PE and now. California is of course bright blue and West  Virginia is bright red. Why is that? Because. California is a completely different state due to  immigration and West Virginia had less immigration.

than any other state. Yeah. The the the pro  the the big problem though is that politicians. like Dan Krenshaw refuse to take on the teachers  unions. They refuse to stand up to the teachers. unions. Why? They're afraid of them. They spend  tons of money and Randy Wegartner and her ilk um. scare the heck out of these people. So Crenshaw is  afraid. So he's like I mean that's the only thing. I get. You can't I I there's been zero activism  on his part whatsoever um at at standing up to.

these people. H you hate ever to suggest that  someone's doing something for the money, right? But in Crenshaw's case, like his position on  Ukraine is so far out that it's obvious to me he's. being paid to have that position. But you tell  me is sending a h 100red billion more to Ukraine. Are Ukraine's borders are these like really huge  issues in your district? It's the border is the.

biggest issue. The US border. The US border. And  when you ask people, and this is not anecdotal, this empirical. Um there have been plenty of  people polling in Congressional District 2 in. Montgomery County. Why? Because it's the biggest  red county left in Texas. The governor polls it. We poll it, other people are polling it. And it's  people see the contrast between the way Ukraine is.

being taken care of and the Texas border is not.  And they draw a contrast and they should. It's. kind of that simple, isn't it? Yeah. Where's Carl  Rove on this question? You know, I think a lot of. these guys are just big government neocons that  don't care. They don't see it as a threat at all. at all. Do you ever see Rove around? Never. But  he still has a hand in Texas politics completely.

Huh. Do you ever talk to Krenshaw? The last time  I talked to him, the last time I talked to him. was at at that town hall three years ago when  he dismissed myself and Senator Kraton for not. accepting and not, you know, wholeheartedly  buying into this crappy Senate bipartisan. um bill that they wanted to push through. And  and again, they blamed President Trump was out. of office at the time, saying, you know, Trump  is just torpedoing this thing. And they're all.

angry about it. And Trump was just saying, you  don't need legislation to close the border, right? You just need to have the will to  do it. And no, Dan Krenshaw and 100% of. the Republicans or Democrats in Congress  said, "No, we need this legislation." No, you don't. Close the freaking border. who um who  among Texas elected officials supports Contra. You know what's funny is when the day we announced  we had I think 30 of the most conservative members.

of the Texas legislature that endorsed me and he  came out with a list of people to endorse him. Not. one single member of Congress was behind him.  Not one really not one active congressman came. out to endorse him. Do you ever talk to members of  Congress about him who work with him? What do they. say? Um I'm I'm not going to comment on that. I  just I can't I just can't. Okay, I understand. But.

it sounds like he's not a favorite among his  colleagues. Yeah, I so a lot of you know I I. came in when I came into the legislature I came in  with one of the biggest classes in in in since the. Sharpstown scandal in the 70s and I think there  were 42 people in our class and many of them have. gone on to serve in in Congress in Washington and  I have a good relationship with all of them. Yeah, but Cshaw doesn't sound like he does. Is he close  to Cornin? You know, I don't know if they have.

a relationship or not. I know that Cornin is  supporting him for obvious reasons, but that's. what are those reasons? Well, just they're they're  both donor class lobbyist centric people. Um, we're called representatives because we're  actually supposed to represent the people that. vote us into office and they're just some that  just don't give a flying flip about those. That's. obvious. Well, in in Krenshaw's case, it's clearly  he's hostile to them. Yeah. So, it's not just you. that he's uh snapped at for asking a question. And  I want to play a video and maybe you can explain.

what we're watching. A young girl comes up to  him. She looks very young in the video and asks. him about comments that he made about Jesus during  a podcast. Can before we play this, can you tell. us the backstory? So he was on a podcast and Dan  wants to show himself off as this intellectual. Dan Dan is dumb. No offense. No, I'm not being  mean. By the way, my dogs are dumb and I and I.

think they're going to have it. I have no I don't  think that's a moral category. I'm not attacking. him, but he is dumb. Like head injury dumb. And I  don't Anyway, sorry. Sorry to be mean. No, I I I I. think I actually think he's I'm going to disagree  with you. I think he's incredibly smart. I think. he's vacuous when it comes to wisdom, though.  Maybe that's what I'm referring to. Yeah. So, I think he knows a lot. And when I've sat and  listened to some of his podcasts and some of.

the different things, he's a really smart guy, but  he completely lacks the wisdom to know what to do. with all those smarts. Yeah. And so he's doing  this podcast with this guy and they're talking. about he brings up, well, the American people  need archetypes, Spider-Man, Superman, and Jesus. Christ. And he says, and then real ones, too, like  Rosa Parks and Abraham Lincoln. And they're like, "What? You just you just actually said Rosa Parks  is real. Jesus is not. Jesus is not. And so this.

that's a Carl Rove position. I think I probably I  saw it on Wikipedia. Must be real. So this young. woman um at the Montgomery County Tea Party  on a Monday night asks Dan Krenshaw. She said, "I'm trying to get my arms around this." And  then she read the statement verbatim of what. he had said on this podcast and he said, "I  can't get my arms around that." And he said,

"You put a period after Jesus and don't question  my faith." And the whole place just lost it. So. let's play that. You not only lied about Jesus not  being real, but you lied about being a Christian. To give context to anyone who hasn't heard, Prince  Shaw said, quote, "The most important thing here. is that we have important hero archetypes that we  look up to. Jesus is a hero archetype. Superman is. a hero archetype. Real characters to two. I could  name a thousand. Rosa Parks, Ronald Reagan." End.

quote. I can't wrap my head around this. Well,  I'll help you put a period after the word Jesus. and don't question my faith. Wow. Wow. To a  10year-old girl. So, I think it's it's fair to, you know, to to not want to be attacked for your  faith. Okay. I I I'm with Crunch on that. But. she wasn't really attacking him on his face. She  was asking like, "What do you think?" She wanted. clarity. What do you mean? Yeah. Clarity. Exactly.  Like, if you ever said anything, you're like, I could have positioned that differently. Have  I ever said anything? I mean, I get asked that.

all the time, especially I'll come home, my wife  will be like, did you mean to say that? I'm like, okay, what should I have said? Right. I've lived.  I'm like, "Okay, yes, honey, that makes sense, right?" Like, but and so you just say, "Wow,  I guess I could have handled that differently. I that's not what I meant. You I would have put  a period after Jesus and then I would have shut. my mouth and laughed and laughed it off."  Totally. But instead, he got all defensive. at this young woman and tried to ridicule her.  Oh, he attacked her like instantly. Yeah. So,

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You just are. You um of course you're going to  take some hard positions and you're going to get. shot at. Of course. Um so how did that video go  over in Texas? It went viral like overnight and. the next morning it was on all the different  radio talk shows and um yeah went over like a. lead balloon. But and at not at no time did  he ever say, "Wow, I handled that. It was a.

bad night for me. probably shouldn't have said  that. That was silly on my part. Right. I mean, there's just no ability to be gracious and kind to  that young woman even in the absence of in seeing. whatever what happened. Nothing. It was just  bizarre. I want to play one other clip um that. I think reveals a lot not just about his about  his temperament, but about his agenda. So he was. asked by a reporter um whom I respect called  Liam Cosgrove uh well coming out of Congress,

this was earlier, this was this spring, early  summer, and he was asked about legislation that. he had voted for. Um and basically his position  was the intel agencies are not in any way playing. in American politics. Here's the exchange.  with data and with access to your, you know, app that you're addicted to, you can vastly  manipulate um an entire population, which Chinese. have done. Are you worried that our intelligence  agencies are doing the same thing domestically? Am.

I worried that well, I know that they're not  they're not manipulating Americans. They're. noting a flow of information. Yeah. Did you have  some evidence otherwise that you'd like to share? I mean, okay. Any serious question? Congressman,  you asked for an example of the US intelligence. agencies meddling in our information. What about  before the 2020 election when 50 members came out. and said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian  disinformation? Does that count? No, because.

I mean they were they were retired. They were  retired because there's no program. The FBI had. the laptop for over a year. Nothing even close to  what Tik Tok did. So that I felt again, I've spent. the last half an hour sort of defending Crenshaw  in a backhanded way. I think he's a victim um. of the war on terror if I'm being honest. That's  what I think. He's clearly so damaged and screwed. up and tragic personal life and all the rest. But  when I saw that, I thought this is like not a good.

person. Actually, the the most egregious thing  about that is that as I talk to friends in DC, they see this like on a daily basis. Oh, yes. And  sweet. See what? This is the deep state. This is. the deep state at work that he's denying exists.  The intel agencies playing in American politics, right? So, what the left has done is they've  positioned this fourth branch of government.

So that even when they're not in power, they're in  power. Yes. That's what they've created. They've. created a system whereby So you lose Congress, you  lose the White House. We don't care. They don't. care because they they have the fourth branch of  government that's still running the show. It's. so blatantly honest or obvious. I I had a quick  little story. I had I had a young woman um call. me. She was referred to me by someone from Texas  for vaccine choice. She transitioned and she's.

transitioning. She they she bought into the lie  that she was a male and at 26 years of age she's. trying to transition back and she called me up and  said and she's been shot full of hormones and the. whole thing. Hyctomy. Oh, come on. Mastctomy. Um,  and when you shoot someone hysterctomy in her 20s. No, earlier than that. And the problem is when you  put people on cross- sex hormones, I'm getting way. a field here, but um it screws up their system,  right? And she's the most beautiful young woman.

And but she has a driver's license with a male  name on it. And so I just I called up um the head. of DPS and I said, "Can we take care of this  for her?" And by the next morning, she had a. new driver's license with her name on it. Brought  her to tears. Like that's her identity now, right? You can do things like that at the state of Texas  level because we haven't turned the fourth branch.

of government into anything that can hurt people.  It's been done at the federal level. There's still. democratic control, too. Like the people still  have a voice. As screwed up and corrupt as the. state may be, and it is in my opinion, there's  still like a possibility that you can make change, especially in the tax adjigation agency where  you see a lot of this stuff, but you still can. make change, right? But at the federal level, like  if you were to call immigration or something like. that, they'd laugh at you. Of course, you're  just a silly congressman. We don't care what.

you think. Why would they? Why would they? Right.  Um and they do the same thing with the executive. branch. They are just completely um aloof. Um  they don't care what we think. They don't care. what the elected officials. They don't care what  that a constitutionally elected person that holds. office. They don't care what you think. Even  though even though your your department may be. underneath an agency that you oversee is a sitting  member of Congress, they don't care. No. Well, this is why Doge was a good idea. And you know,  really no one's until people are really fired.

um people who work for us, then there's no  incentive for them. But here's the problem, Tucker, is that we've got a responsibility,  I think, as elected officials to say to the. American people, "This is going on. Yeah, I see  it with my own eyes. This is what's going on. Yes. And and guys like CRA are like, "No, I'm going  to defend it." Well, how could you defend? So, how could I mean, he was asked specifically,  the intel agencies have basically nullified.

democracy because they are playing a role in  American politics, a very big role, and that's. documented. It's not a matter of guesswork at this  point. We know that. And it's, as you just said, anyone who works in Washington sees it every  single day. So, like if he's denying that angrily, what does that say about his role? It I mean, he  was asked specifically about the R about Hunter. Biden's laptop. Yeah. And it was called Russian  disinformation by the intelligence community. Oh,

yes. And he blew it off. Completely  blew it off just like they blew off. um Biden's daughter's diary. Of course. Well, they  put the they put the people had it in jail, right, for the crime of having Ashley Biden's diary in  which she said she showered with her dad and it. screwed her up sexually. How could it? That's what  it's Well, exactly. How couldn't it? But that was. just they put the guy in jail for that. I mean,  for having it. Yeah. Or or you know the the the.

young woman in that was a staffer for Joe Biden  when he was in the Senate. Oh, I know her. Terara. Reed, I know her well. She lives in Moscow now  cuz she's basically driven out of the country. They destroyed her. Oh, I I know I know her well.  Yes. That's literally But no one cares. My heart. just breaks for her. Just sweet woman, too. Very  sweet woman. Yeah. She had to leave this country, be away from her family, her child. I mean, it's  it's uh and no one cared. The feminist said not.

one word. The same players in government don't  don't treat Republicans that way. I mean, if. it's only it's only people that say bad things  about the the power structure of Washington DC. They're the only ones that get held accountable.  I've noticed it's so sick. It's just so sick. ALP. is a pretty new company, about a year old, but we  have a surprisingly deep, and I mean subterranean.

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we sat down was I have to confess my role in Dan  Krenshaw's victory because he made this really. compelling case that he was going to fight the  corruption in DC and I understood that he knew. what we wanted to hear. But how why not like  fight corruption a little bit? Why immediately. start making excuses for the CIA controlling US  elections? Like, why would you ever make excuses.

for that? I can't I can't for the life of me get  my arms around it. Okay. Well, I have a little bit. I just have a guess. I don't know either. I don't  talk to Dan Krenshaw um you know, directly. uh but. there was this kind of amazing moment um right  after co when people started taking a look at. the performance of various members of Congress's  stock portfolios and you know I know personally.

know hedge fund managers who've underperformed  the market right people do this for a living made. billions some years they just don't you know it's  very hard to beat the market but Dan Krenshaw did. somehow he made a lot of trades including after  getting classified brief brievings on co policy. and he was called out on this and he wasn't the  only one. I mean Nancy Pelosi famously but Dan. Krenshaw did pretty well and you know I I don't  think there's any evidence to suggest he's like. a market expert. So like how exactly did that did  that work? And this was his response. He didn't.

you know he immediately started attacking anyone  who asked him and he said you don't let us trade. stocks. You don't let us make any money either. We  haven't gotten a pay raise since 2008. So, I mean, I don't think members of Congress are overpaid  exactly, but they're paid all multiples of what. the average person makes, and they get a lifetime  pension, so it's a pretty good deal. And free. healthcare and dental. So, it's like he's clearly  very focused on money. He was vicious, too,

about the way he said it. I mean, the the level  of anger in his voice that he would be questioned. about the way he's trading stock or what he gets  paid. So the average Texan is paid $76,000. Dan. Krenjo is making $174,000 of your tax dollars.  He's being paid by our tax dollars in Texas, of course. And he thinks he should make more.  Well, for a young man, too, the lifetime value.

of the package that he's which he's already gotten  because he's already served multiple terms, right? So is many millions of dollars over the course of  a life. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It is crazy. So, I mean it does like what what do you make of  the stock trading? How did Dan Krenshaw beat. the market? Well, multiple people have talked  about it and multiple people over the years. have said that we've got to stop it because we  have access they have access to information that.

the average person doesn't have access to. And  it's really not a lot different in Texas. Again, we're the eighth largest economy in the United  States. I see deals that are coming our way and. I could I could own stock in those companies but  my wife and I have choose chosen to stay out of. the market and for that very simple reason even  you're not in the market at all at all at all. So. I own real estate I own um some rental houses and  that's that's my retirement but I don't want to be. I I want to avoid I want to avoid the appearance  of evil. has been an issue. This went all the way.

back. Do remember Eric Caner very well. Eric Caner  was thrown out of office and Dave I can't think of. his last name. He's a I know them both. Yeah. Um  but anyways, Caner lost because of his defense. and and voted against legislation. This is going  back 10 12 years that um would have stopped this. And the American people have just had enough with  it. They they just have absolutely had enough of. it. And I I don't blame them. It's just absolutely  stupid. You're taking advantage of the system and.

um and enriching yourselves and that creates a  perverse incentive inside you to do the wrong. thing and to vote the wrong way. Why not? I mean,  if you're Nancy Pelosi or if you're Dan Krenshaw, whose politics are very similar, by the way, Dan's  a liberal. I guess if that's not obvious, I should. just say that. Um Dan's a liberal, but you know,  both of them have taken a lot of crap for this. I. mean, it's they've really been attacked for the  appearance of insider trading. I can't call it.

that, but certainly what it looks like. Clearly,  it looks that way. Why Why wouldn't you just just. ban it and then you can get rich when you leave  and you can go lobby for Apac or whatever he's. going to do? But like I don't I don't the simplest  thing would be to file legislation and then dump. your portfolio or dump it into a blind trust. At  the very least if if if you're going to say okay. um you can't own stock at at the very least we  should be encouraging these guys to bl dump them.

into a blind trust so that they can't manipulate  the market or manipulate the their their own. portfolio as a result of what they know. Doesn't  it make people cynical about their government? That's the problem. I mean, I I think probably the  greatest threat to the United States right now is. the cynicism that we have towards our elected  officials. Yes. We're so I I think especially. conservatives, every time we hear lock her up,  they're not going to lock her up. No, they're. not. Throw them out of office. They're not going  to throw them out of office. They're not going to.

throw them out. Liars. It's just we're so sick  of it. And and this is going on here in Texas, right, as well with the quorum busters that while  we were trying to do redistricting, they went to. Illinois and they went to California and we heard  lock them up. Lock them up and we're going to lock. them up. We're throw them out. No one's going to  get thrown out of office. And it just it feeds the. cynicism that we all rightfully have right now  because it's so fake. I feel like that cynicism.

is the most intense and the most dangerous among  like patriotic normal Americans. They have really. been betrayed. Oh my gosh. Because they really  believed in it. I mean practically everyone who. got arrested on on January 6 was carrying like a  pocket constitution. Like these were people who. really believe in this system. Yeah. And yet you  see people that were were part of rael rousing in. Washington DC that day that never went to jail.  Well, they don't even they hate the system. They. want to tear it down. So, I'm talking about the  insiders, of course. No, no, I agree. But, I mean,

someone like Krenshaw or Nancy Pelosi, they don't  believe in the system. They're grifters obviously, but like the people who do believe in the system  and are the victim of this just serial decadesl. long betrayal. Those people, and I feel  like I'm one of them, being honest. I'm. just It makes me so mad. I can barely see cuz you  feel like you're betrayed by your own leaders. Do you feel that? Oh, completely. And it's harder  cuz when you're in office, you're kind of like, okay, because of what you're doing right now, I'm  going to get painted with that same brush. Oh,

so you I mean, you're in the Texas house, so Yeah.  How often do you see that? All the time. And like. I'll post something about what's going on with the  corn breakers right now. They're like, "Oh, you're. just a piece of crap. You you know, you're going  to tell us what we want to hear." And it's like, I I don't blame that guy for feeling that  way. Yes, he should feel that way because. our government has done nothing to bring the  hammer down on these people. It's just all talk.

I I I mean, it feels like we're getting to like a  dangerous level of anger. I feel it anyway. I feel. like I hate everyone. All these people, especially  the ones who claim to represent me, they're just. liars. I know. I'm less mad at Pelosi than I  am at some Republicans who I formerly believed. in. I'm more mad at us right now. I'm way more  mad at at Republicans than I am Democrats. Oh, I agree with that completely. Um, when I have  Look, Republic Democrats Democrats are like.

trail horses. Each one sticks his nose in the  ass of the horse in front of them, right? And. Republicans are like mustangs. We're biting each  other. We're kicking each other. We're fighting. Um they work in lock step together. And um they  take people out that don't believe in their.

radical views. Um, there was a woman in the Texas  legislature last session, Sean Theory, Democrat, that voted with us and against the gender  mutilation of little girls and boys. And the. Democrat party re responded by running somebody  against her and spending a million dollars to. take her out. Did they? They did. They took her  out for that. For that. We, on the other hand,

we try and take out members of our own party  that fight for our our values. I've noticed. And it's just it's so sick. Where is that? Here's  the reality is that the the modern-day Republican. party, when we win elections, we take office.  When Democrats win elections, they will power. They they fully believe in what they're fighting  for. We just have people that want power, that.

want to get elected. It's it's sad because like,  don't you care about anything? Is there no holy. discontent inside your soul that bothers you about  what's going on in our country today that you're. willing to fight for? Or are you just willing to  play it safe so you can stay in office? Democrats. fight. They believe in everything that they're  doing. What do you think the answer is? Honestly, yeah, I think we need a spiritual renewal in  America. Um, and we need to get back to our.

founding principles. And our our constitution was  meant only for a holy um um and religious people. And we're we're starting to see our our nation and  our society just fray and tear apart right now. And as a result of that, we're raising up people  that should not be in office that are serving and.

have no place in serving within the Republican  part. I'm talking about within the Republican. party. Of course you are. Oh, I believe that.  And I know so many of them. I've always felt like. the problem was the, you know, what they call  rhinos. I'm not even sure what a Republican is. now anyway. So it doesn't even I don't know if I'm  not even sure what a conservative is anymore. Not. either. When Mitt Romney says, "I'm an extreme  conservative." Like, what? What? No. You're an. extreme conservative? No. You're a you're a  you're a guilty old lady. Um, but it it now.

it feels like there are, you know, people jumping  up and down about America first who are, you know, they're biting their time until Trump's gone.  Oh, yeah. You feel that? Oh, completely. Yeah. So. among people you serve with in the in the House in  Texas, how many are really sincere, do you think? So 88 Republicans, 62 Democrats, and 67 of us got  together and selected David Cook as speaker. Mhm.

And the balance the small balance of This is the  new the new speaker. No, he should have been the. new new speaker. Okay. After all, 67 of us got  together. You had the drunk guy. Dade's gone and. um we led there are four of us. The letter revolt  against Dade and he this guy was actually hammered.

on the House floor. It would appear from it would  appear. I'm getting I'm trying I have to work with. these people. Let let me just say as a former  drunk person, I recognize that. Yeah. So 67 of. us got together. We we started cobbling together  this this coalition and we got it up to 67 people. out of 88 Republicans. So more than a majority.  Yeah. Right. A super super majority. And then.

this little group of Republicans got together with  all 62 of the Democrats and they picked Burroughs. So yeah, we have we have a speaker that was  picked by the Democrats. So the Texas House. is overwhelmingly Republican, but it's  actually run by the Democrats. Correct. They're about 40. I would I would I would put  the number at about 40 strong conservatives. out of the 88. But even a sort of tepid  conservative, even a rhino by definition,

wouldn't want the Texas House to be run by the  other party. And yet they do. Do you think the. Democrats would abide by this? Do you think  the Democrats, if they were in the majority, would include any of us on their team? No, of  course not. Elections have consequences. And also, the people should have a say. So, if the majority  of the state votes for Republican leadership, you. should have it because that's called democracy.  You It's about responding to what the citizenry, the owners of the United States want in  the administration of their government.

And they're getting once again the opposite of  what they voted for. Correct. And on every issue, they get the opposite. There's never been one  public opinion poll in the last two years said, "Number one issue for me is Ukraine." And yet,  all the money is going to Ukraine or to all these. other foreign countries. It's like, why are we  giving all this money to Egypt? Is there some. Are there a lot of people in your district who  are like, "We need to add add another billion. dollars to Egyptian foreign aid budget this  year." Like, it's a big issue. Yeah. Lemonade. stands and everything else. We're all working hard  for Egypt. I mean, what? So, um, I just feel like,

well, let me ask you. Do you feel like we're at  a point where people are becoming I'm feeling way. more radical than I've ever felt in my life?  Cuz no one's listening, right? Thank you. No. one's listening. And we just after a while,  you just get frustrated and angry over it. Yes. It's the sincere people who were the most angry,  right? Because the cynical people never expected. a real system in the first place. The only skin  that they have in the game is their patriotism.

There's nothing financially in it for him at all.  It's just love of country. It's just Tucker. It's. just love of country. Yes. So that's why I wanted  to talk to you and I and I'll just be honest. I. think you turn out to be one of the most sincere,  thoughtful politicians I've talked to in a long. time. That's cuz I'm not a politician. So I'm I'm  glad. In fact, my wife when when you hang out with. me, my bet will be like, you know, you can't hang  out with Steve if you call him representative.

Well, but the real reason I want to talk to you  is I don't want Dan Krenshaw to get reelected. Not. because I hate Dan Krenshaw or think he's actually  going to make good on his promise to kill me. I. don't think he's going to. Um, it's not personal.  It really isn't. It's just that if you keep. electing people who are transparently corrupt and  insincere like Dan Krenshaw, then after a while, like your your country falls apart. Not because  he's so bad, but because it's such an obvious lie.

I guess that's what I'm trying to express. Do you  worry about that? I I think it's I think cynicism. is is um the greatest threat to our country.  Yes. And um scripture says where where there. is no hope, people perish. Yeah. And that's where  we're at today in America. And I think one of the. things that I love about Trump and I think the  reason why people have overwhelmingly flocked to. Trump is Trump leads with actions and not words.  He he he leads with words to um um to to capture.

the news cycle, right? Yes. But he doesn't use  those words to do anything other than to throw. the mainstream media off. He leads with action.  And that's what we want out of our leaders. We. want people that are going to lead with action  and not rhetoric. We're tired of the rhetoric. Absolutely tired of the rhetoric. It's hollow.  It's empty. It's useless. Incumbents almost always.

get reelected, especially from Republican  districts. It feels maybe not especially, but they definitely Republicans, bad Republicans.  John Cornin, multiple terms in the Senate. I can. think of probably another 40 Republican office  holders. It's like, how did you get reelected? um particularly in Republican states, right?  You know, in Idaho and this all through the. the deep south, they reelect people with  literally with Alzheimer's. It's crazy. Um.

how hard will it be to unseat Dan Krenshaw?  It's going to be a lot of work. We've had a. lot of people coming to my website, Steve Toth for  Congress.com, or just Steve to.com. Both work. But. um it's been pretty cool. We've we've had people  from all over the United States um contributing. the widows might 10 bucks, 15 bucks. It's so it's  so amazing. Yeah. And um um this is doable. But. the biggest problem, Tucker, is that there  there's there's just like this belief, well,

they're they're a sitting member. They can't be  beat. Yes, they can. We've proven it. We've we've. seen it. We've shown it that when you when you  mobilize as a as a community against these guys, you can take them out. Yes. I just think it it  would be an important statement about democracy. and that it still can work. I've wanted to talk  to Krenshaw, put in a million interview requests. He will not do an interview period except with  a moderator. It's hilarious. Um, I'd love to.

talk to Clifford Aznes, his main uh fun, the guy  who's like publicly defended shortselling. Um, sleas true sleasball. Of course, he would never  talk to me, but I would like to I would just I. would like to know how someone like Krenshaw could  get reelected, like who would support him? Do you. feel support for him in the district? It's not  there. Just it's not there. So, we did uh we did.

a meet and greet in his neighborhood on Saturday  and the place was packed in his neighborhood where. he lives. His neighborhood where he lives and  um it was just I walked away so encouraged with. the support that we got and it's just it's really  exciting. It's going to be a lot of work. I mean, you know, he outspent his opponent two years ago  120 to1 and the guy got 42% against him and um so.

when that happens, there's blood in the water  and it attracts a lot of people, but we're the. only ones that have launched a really legitimate  campaign against him where we're going to be able. to raise the money necessary. We're going to be  outspent. We get that. Really? Oh, yeah. I mean, just the amount of support that he's going to  get from the lobby is just off the charts. But. I can't overthink Tucker of a time when I haven't  been outspent two or three to one um in one. So, we're we're okay with it. We're going to beat  him and um we're just going to work. When's the.

primary? March 3rd of next year. March 3rd. Yeah.  So, the district is overwhelmingly Republican. completely. Okay. So, whoever wins the primary  will win the general. Will win the general. How. many people are in the primary, do you think? Do  you expect? Um, we're we're pressing for roughly. 160,000 votes. No, I mean, how many candidates  How many people running against him? Um, I think. they're about five in right now. Five or six?  Really? Yeah. And more will get in. More will get.

in. It just It happens. And how does that work? Is  it the guy who gets the most votes or is it there? You have to get you have to get 50%. Yeah. Or or  it goes into a runoff. Oh wow. So if you're Carl. Rove or Clifford Esnes or some lobby, foreign  lobby, you have every incentive to get as many. people into this race as possible. Correct. Right.  Correct. But we're already hearing from people in. it that have come to me and said, "You've got  the best chance of winning. I'm probably going.

to drop out before the filing period." So the  filing period hasn't even opened yet. You're just. allowed to pick a treasurer and say that you're  running for Congress and make a statement. But um. the filing period hasn't even opened yet and we  think a lot of them are going to drop out. I've. got great relationships with a lot of the people  that are in it right now. Yeah. They feel like, you know, you've got the best chance to beat him  and we want to help you. So I I mean the reason I. want to talk to you is I've talked to a lot of  people in Texas about it just cuz I think it's. so important to make good on your promises.  If you say you're going to put America first,

you have to have people that are willing.  Amen. Um and we need it badly. So badly. Uh, and everybody I've spoken to has said you have  the best shot at unseating him. I, this is not. directly related to you, but since you swim in  the same pool, where is Cornin's re-election. right now? Would you say? How would you assess  that? He He's in he is in real trouble. So, we've been looking at his numbers as well. Um, his  numbers are not as bad as Dan Krenshaw's numbers, but they're bad. How bad are Krenshaw's numbers?  He's at 43% unfavorable in Harris County,

44% unfavorable in Montgomery County. 44%  44%. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's really high. That's really high. And I think Cornin's about  three points below that, but that's still bad, right? So, I mean, you typically people that have  unfavorable numbers above 40% don't even run for. reelection. Interesting. So, Cornin, who hates  Trump, obviously hates Trump, right? um has always.

hated Trump. He He's like sucking up to Trump  now, right? It's sick. Really? It's just sick. to watch it. Yeah. What's he doing? Um this is so  funny. So, a couple months ago there's a picture. in in Acts of him reading The Art of the Deal and  and just above it, it says, "What a great read.". And then and then John Cordon who's like wants  nothing more than to like be accepted into some. club. Yeah. you know what I mean? And then and  then a month or two later, he's got a picture of.

him outside. There's a there's a a restaurant in  Texas called Trump Burger. And he's outside the. restaurant with the the marquee behind him, and  he's holding an a, you know, a Trump burger in. his hand. No way. It's just so silly. Cornin, who  dresses like JP Morgan vice president, you know, he's like a big Trump guy now. Do people fall for  that? No. No, they don't. So, he's running against.

Kim Paxton is in the race. Um, are there others?  Um, that's it so far. That's it right now. You. got to think. I mean, I'm So, Carl Rove tried to  take out Ken Paxton, your attorney general, uh, in. a in a I mean, tried to put him in jail basically,  helped run this impeachment against him trial. Uh, is he involved in the Senate race, do you think?  I think he will be. He was sure involved in trying. to take Ken Paxton out. There is no doubt about  it. Not just take him out, but imprison him.

Oh my gosh. So that impeachment was the biggest  scam. Should have been the biggest embarrassment. It is. I think it is the it will go down in  history as the biggest embarrassment of the. Texas legislature, the Texas House. And I was so  proud of the way the Texas Senate stepped up very. seriously, deliberate deliberative every single  charge against him. Um, they put it to the test. and we rushed we literally rushed it through in  24 hours. We were given we were given this 60-page.

document to read of the charges against Paxton.  No witnesses were called for their side. None. of the none of the um witnesses were sworn in,  which is a violation of the Texas Constitution. Um, this is exactly what Carl Rove and Eric Holder  did to the Alabama pro-life governor 20, 30 years. ago. They took him out, threw him in jail, and  it it was later found out to be all, you know,

all all nothing. It was a big nothing burger.  And um, he was set free, but it it destroyed him, right? It destroyed his life. It destroyed his  political career. Um, it took everything away. from the man. And they tried to do the same  thing to Ken. And it was just absolutely. And. Ken's real sin, even if you disagree with Paxton,  you have to say he's been very effective. Oh my. gosh. He's been incredibly effective. Right. So  that's that's the crime right there. That is the. crime is not just getting up and being like, "Oh,  I'm a war hero. I have an eye patch. You know,

I'm going to drain the swamp." But actually  doing something. He actually did it. And Ken, you know, like to know Ken is to know that Ken's  not like the most articulate, charismatic speaker. in the world. No, he's anything but that. And so  I like him more for that actually. I know. It just. he bleeds with his actions. H um interesting.  It sounds like how influential are the Bushes. still in Texas politics? I think they're very  influential still. Still. Yeah. But I think it.

I think it mainly it's mainly through Carl Rove.  Um they don't support the president. They refuse. to support Trump, which is an embarrassment.  Should be an embarrassment to them at their. lack of support and everything that he's doing for  our country right now. How can you look how can't. you look at everything that Trump is doing right  now and say um what he's doing with the border,

um what he's doing with Doge, what he's doing  with public education, and on and on and on. And look at how you not look at that and just say,  "Wow, this is all the crap that you guys said that. you were going to do. He just did it." Like you  said, you wanted to do away with the Department. of Education because of the way they're destroying  public education in America. He's he's doing it. You want to root out the corruption through um  um these government agencies that are blindly. giving money to other Democrats so they can they  they literally are funneling and laundering money.

through the United States government. um these  these different organizations that that Doge. has uncovered more I mean specifically US A right  US A was the piggy bank for the Democrat party in. Act blue and that's why the Democrats are angry  about it because you took their funding source. away everyone knew it. Everyone knew that that  was going on. Trump's the only one that had the. stones to get up and and just do it. Do you not  care about America? You don't care about America.

These politicians don't care about America. They  call themselves Republicans. They don't care about. the republic. They care about sustaining power  and keeping their own little click in control. That's all they care about. What's it like to go  to work in the Texas state house? Um, you know, was it Truman then said, "If you want a friend,  go buy a dog." Yeah. It's kind of like what it's. like. And it's it's hard. It's difficult. And so,  I've been I've been blessed in that I I don't go. there alone. I don't I don't live alone. I don't  go anywhere alone. Um, they'll destroy you if you.

live alone. They'll accuse you. They'll accuse you  of everything and anything. I live um this past. session with Nate Shastline. Nate's a Wait, wait,  wait. Back up just for one sec. What do you What. do you mean if you live alone? So, your session  is how how long is the session? We're in session. for 5 months every two years, January through May,  and then specials. So, you live north of Houston, but you have to go down to Austin for the session.  You got to live there. You got to live there. If. you live alone, they Why does it matter if you  live alone? Oh, they'll accuse you of something.

or they'll set you up with something. Weird  sex stuff. Yep. For real? For real. And I'm. convinced that's why a lot of guys have got into  trouble. Individuals that I know that came there. with the best intentions to do the right thing  and now are just part of the problem. Are you. serious? Completely. Of course you are. Yeah. I  yeah I guess I should I'm shouldn't be surprised. but I am also it's not it's not wise for a man to  live alone for five months. I mean it's not it's.

just it's it's stupid. It is stupid. I totally  agree with that. Um let's let's stop lying. Yeah. About the way men are. Wow. That's so Is that  widely known? Oh, I think it is. Yeah. I mean, you there's a you know, there's a lot of gossip  and stuff, but you know, and and I feel badly. because I I feel like there are some really good  people that get accused of it where it's not true.

Mhm. And um I feel badly for them, but that's,  you know, that's what you sign up for when you go, but it's a means of control. It's a leash that  someone is yanking to keep people in line. Yep. Completely. And so you think there are people who  arrived with the intent of doing good draining the. swamp representing their constituents who were  caught up in some sort of immoral behavior and. that has been used as leverage against them. Yeah.  Yes. I believe that completely. Really? I I so I.

just I make a point of just I I don't you know if  if I if I go to an event I don't I don't drink. I. quit drinking um back in 2019. It didn't serve me.  Yes. It doesn't do anything for you. I, you know, my wife and I would have a glass of wine or two  at dinner, but I just completely gave it up. Oh, you weren't like a slobbering drunk. You just  No. Um I I'm a cheap date. Yeah. So, I just No,

I just But I I I I never wanted to be seen with,  you know, with beer or wine in my hand. I just. It doesn't serve you at all in any way, shape,  or form. I agree completely. strongly. Uh yeah, good for you. So, but you but when you showed up  in Austin for your first session, you were aware. that you could be subverted. I I don't think I  was as a aware then. You know, you'd heard about. stuff. Is that really true? That can't be true.  These guys are really good. They're Republicans.

They wouldn't do that. I was completely naive  when I first came in. Like 40 of us showed up. We had this group called the no-name group. We're  like, they're gonna be so happy that we're here. They're gonna love us. Otis, he loves us. They're  gonna love us because we're true. We're fighting. Republicans. They're going to love us. No, they  scorned us. Really? They being the Republicans who.

were already there. Yeah. Yeah. And then no time  flat. In fact, I can remember one of them said, um, "We were called for such a time as this,"  quoting Esther, the book of Esther, of course, and the reason why they hate us now, this is what  we this is what one of them said. The reason why. they hate us is because they we remind them  of what they used to be. And like like I look. at most of those guys that said that and shook  their head like I am and say, "Yeah, and that's.

who you are now. You've you've gone you've turned  you're not with us anymore. How how long ago was. that? That was in 2013 when I I I came in in 2013,  served for 2 years and then I left for 4 years and. then I came back in 2019. But the guys who stayed  most all them went bad really. So what apart from. sexual blackmail which you've said is real and  I believe you. What are the other um means by.

which good people become bad people? You want You  want to be effective, don't you, Tucker? You're. here to serve your your district. You want to be  effective, don't you? Well, you're going to be in. the penalty box if you don't become part of the  speaker's team. And if you're in the penalty box, you can't pass any legislation. And I'm kind of  an outlier in that um I get really lucky. Like I. passed some legislation, as an example, I picked  up a bill to take on critical race theory and no.

one had even heard of it when I carried the bill.  And then a guy by the name of Dick Weekley from. Texans for Lawsuit Reform heard about my bill.  Heard about my bill. And Dick's daughter is is. a passionate follower of Christ. Um Allison Dick  is a good man. He and he got behind my bill. Yeah. And by God's grace and I car I I carried that  bill um in the um 87th session and we passed. it into law. It was the best one in the United  States. And so you know I got that done and it's.

like I came home and I said to Babette, I said we  didn't sell out. God proved to me that he could. still use me and I didn't have to sell out to do  it. And I it just it made me more passionate that. um with God there's a way to get things done and  he can still use you. You don't you don't have. to sell your soul to these people. These people  are evil. They don't want to do the right thing. They're not concerned about doing the right  thing. They're just concerned about holding.

on to power. But it's interesting that they they  say right to you, you want to be effective. So. they appeal really to your best instincts cuz you  do. Any good man wants to be effective, of course. So, it's they don't come to you and say, "Hey,  I've got like hookers and cash for you." They say, "No, you we can help you be the person you want to  be." Right. You want to be effective, don't you? Yeah. In fact, a couple people that were going to  vote with us left us at the last like one one guy.

um he left he was going to vote for David Cook  and um he came in with me as a freshman. David. Cook for speaker for speaker and the last second  he switched over and voted for Burroughs. I said. why'd you do that? I mean I knew and he said  he voted with the Democrats. Yeah. I wanted. to be effective for my district. And he ended up  getting a chairmanship, committee chairmanship, which these guys love getting committ committee  chairmanships. They love being called chairman.

Outside their office, you know, it says Steve Toth  um House District 15 and it shows the committees. that you serve on. Well, for those guys chairman,  that's like a big deal. And these guys love, you know, the being called chairman in the Texas  House. It's just it's it's such a you know it's. just such an ego boost. Do they end up getting  anything done once they make that deal? No. You.

pass some legislation but you sell a little bit of  your soul in the midst of it. It's a transaction. and then you just become with time more corrupt  once you've Yeah. been corrupted. It's just. it's it's such a slow Tucker. It's such a slow  process. For some guys, it happens a lot quicker. than others, but it's it's a slow process where  you just lose your soul. That's so dark. Yeah. Does anyone ever come back? No. I I can't even I  can't ever think of a time when I've seen somebody.

that's gone over and said, "Wow, um I I blew it."  I mean, I've seen I've seen guys that have had a. bad vote that have come back next session said,  "Gosh, that was a stupid vote. I was part of the. their team, but they hadn't sold their soul. They  just they made a bad vote and then they come back. the next session." Yeah, I've seen that. But none  none that have fully gone over, become chairman.

and lost their soul and come back. No. Have you  ever seen a a really honest man of integrity get. rewarded for that? Become chairman of a committee?  No, we're not. They they want you to become. they absolutely want you to go there  and lose your sense of conviction,

your holy discontent that you you come there with  to change. They don't want you to change anything. um you're willing your your desire to change  is what puts them in jeopardy of losing their. their authority and their power. They cut these  guys cut deals and if you're if you're going to. push for legislation, if you're going to push  if I want I I want to transform the way we do. elections in Texas. So, I want us to be able to  audit. Um we have to once there's an election, you have to hold on to the data for 22 months,  but unfortunately, Tucker, we don't have the.

ability to audit any of it. So why why do you  hold on to election material for 22 months if. you can't audit it to find out if there's been  corruption? So I I don't know. I'm just guessing, but I've just seen this a lot. Basically, that  was legislation. I'm guessing that was passed. to protect corruption, but it sounds in the  telling like a good government move, like it. it was designed to expose corruption. In other  words, like under my election integrity bill,

every candidate will have to hold that data  for 22 months. What they don't tell you is. they can't look at it. It remains secret for two  years. Yeah. And so myself and Paul Bettin Court, Senator Bettton Court have introduced legislation  that the president supports, fully supports. And. these guys know it. The Republicans all know it.  But what's the piece of legislation that Democrats. say when they're going to get behind a speaker?  They're like there are these things that are not.

going to pass this year to legislation on on doing  and Benton Court's legislation on on doing audits. um and the transition of kids. So like I had a I  had a bill this year, House Bill 2258, I think it. was 2258. I had like 70 piece legislation, but  they sent it to Ken King's committee where Ken. King killed the bill. I had three members of his  committee that became joint authors on the bill. to stop the social transition of children and  they never gave the bill a hearing. Why would a.

Republican want to protect like the destruction  of children through transgender ideology? Like. why would a Republican be in favor of that? The I  don't think they are. I think they basically are. against it, but they compromise and say the  only way I can do good things for my for my. people back home is if I maintain my chairmanship  and the only way I can maintain my chairmanship. is to cut a deal with Democrats. And Democrats  don't want this piece of legislation to pass. And so they kill it. They just kill it. But um  we turned it into an amendment and um we stuck.

it on Senate Bill 12 at the end of session and  now social transition of kids is illegal in the. state of Texas. Nice. So was that um distressing  to Republicans? Um here's the hard part about it. is that we knew that we were going to try and pass  it as an amendment. And so I didn't make a big. deal about it during session because I didn't want  the Democrats to blow it up. I didn't want them to.

know that we were still going to try and put it on  something. So we just stayed kind of quietly kept. looking for the right bill to put it on. Found  it in Senate Bill 12. We worked with uh with. Brandon Kraton to make sure that he positioned  12. it it's different in Texas than it is in the. United States in that if you're going to pass  legislation at the federal level on ice cream, you can't put something on it that has to do with  bicycles, right? They're not gerine. In Texas, our.

legislation um the amendment has to be absolutely  gerine to the bill. And so we worked with Senator. Kraton quietly behind the scenes to make sure  that when the bill came over from the Senate, it it would so if if that bill had come over from  the Senate with banning social transition of kids. that they would have killed his bill. They never  would have let that bill onto the House floor. Um. that because the the the Rhino Republicans and the  Democrats would have killed the bill in committee. or they would have killed it in calendars and  it never would have made it to the House floor.

So the bill came over we and I was able to put the  amendment on it and it it passed. Wow. It's crazy. that in an overwhelmingly Republican legislature  it's that hard to ban something as transparently. evil. Evil absolutely to the core evil. Destroying  children like just destroying them. Yeah. So last. question. I just want as a lover of Texas and you  know someone with a lot of family in Texas. I go.

to Texas a lot. I always wonder if the people who  run the state like drive around the state, just. look around cuz the last time I was in Texas a  couple months ago in Dallas, which a city I really. love, dirty. It's getting dirtier. I mean, it's  just noticeable. And I guess some people like, do they notice that the state needs attention?  Um, honestly don't know. I do. People talk about. that. No, not at all. Uh-uh. Not Not at It's one  of the reasons I dislike Krenshaw so intensely.

It's like, do you notice that this is degrading?  Like the the physical environment that you live in. is not as nice as it was 10 years ago. Like that's  kind of a concern. Should it not be? The hardest. part of WA of Austin, Texas, and I I believe  Washington DC is pretty much the same thing. The very first time I stepped into the Texas  House, it was about a month before I was sworn in. And I had never met any staffers, had never talked  to anybody. No one knew who I was. They said,

"Representative, so good to see you." Another  person says, "Hey, representative, great to see. you. I hear you're a pastor. I am too." Um, "Hey,  representative, you're in this business." So, and it's they start calling you representative,  right? And it's like they slowly Yeah. You know, they slowly pull you in. And I'm telling you, your  ego digs it. Totally digs it. And after a while, you don't know who you are. You don't know  where you are. You just know you want to be. part of that, right? Oh, of course. And you become  tonedeaf. But since the legislature is in Austin,

it's the prettiest legislative building in the  country by far. Oh, I know. Pink granite. Is that. right? Yeah. Um when I first went there more  than 25 years ago to for work as a reporter, I was like shocked by how beautiful it was, how  cool it was. that had just been restored. And I. was shocked by how great Austin was, the Driscoll  Hotel. And yeah, and then I went back years later.

and was like, you don't even there are like  homeless people sleeping in the vestibule of. the of the Driscoll Hotel. Sixth Street is  dangerous. The place Sixth Street is a mess. But it was so cool. So I'm not a Texan. I'm just a  perennial visitor and I noticed that. I wonder the. people who go to work at the Capitol building, do  they notice that? Do they talk about that? Yeah, we actually have Texas Austin has actually gotten  a little bit cleaner because we passed legislation. banning that. We said there are areas where you  can't camp, right? And why should you be able to.

camp on public land? It's crazy. But the problem  is that while we did that for Austin, nothing's. being done about Houston. Nothing's being done  about Dallas. Nothing's being done about El Paso. And so it's it's you know it's kind of like  putting makeup on and um but at the end of. the day there's still a lot of scars underneath  the makeup that are being hidden in Texas. But. what's more important than how your constituents  are living daytoday. It's I don't know what's more.

I don't know why Ukraine or any other country  is more important than that. I don't either. Um. it's just it's a lack of putting America first.  And I think people like to say America first. They they believe in America first, but what does  that mean? Yeah. What the hell does that mean? Just care about your own country more than any  other country. Yeah. Well, I Godspeed. I really. appreciate you're coming and I I the day that you  beat Dan Krenshaw. March 10th. March 3rd. March.

3rd. Uh well, maybe on March 10th, I'll call  you to offer congratulations. It'll just be a. good day for America. I mean, it'll just be it'll  just remind all of us that the system can still. work. It can. It absolutely can. Steve, thank  you. Thanks, Tucker. [Music] [Applause] [Music]. We've got a new website we hope you will visit.  It's called newcommissionnow.com and it refers.

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