Erik Prince: NATO vs. Russia, the Secrets of Drone Warfare, and CIA Corruption

we had this pattern for years of taking. of hoarding tape like you do ammo yeah. like I don't even shoot 762 x 39 really. it's just not I'm not that interested. but I have you know like I it's it's. unimaginable how many steel case rounds. I have like why do I have those because. I'm crazy just in case it's like so the. the preper you have and not need then. need and not have I totally agree with. that but I'm not rational about it like. I'm sure you who's like equipped an. entire private Army is you're pretty.

rational about it I'm not I'm like I'm. not exactly sure I need I don't give a. [ __ ] gold ammo you know whatever I just. want to hoard it and um cuz I feel you. know I can feel all this. stuff and tape is the same way but dudes. with guns yeah are not a match for dudes. with. drones so if you're if you're the kind. of person I'm not you know naming names. or identifying Myself by name but if.

you're the kind of person who sees a. deal on steel case 762 x 39 you're like. I need another 10,000 rounds because in. your gut you feel like something you. know volatility is coming how point is. that. pointless I've just been uh reading a. book called Firepower which is a history. of basically a history of gunpowder and. you track the change of warfare going. from Spears and longbows to the wheel. locks match lock muskets Flint locks. artillery with bursting rounds and I.

read that to Trish try to understand. we're now through a massive step. change because you know um despite all. the Techno Wizardry of the US military. the best weapon the enemy had was an IED. yes I noticed and now the and the IEDs. would be positioned along the road and. clacked off remotely now the enemy can. fly the IED at you at 120 miles an hour. low to the ground even in a highly. jammed environment so the threat highly.

jamming there's there's no way to stop. the signal highly highly Jam right even. because the Russians are really good at. jamming yes and the ukrainians yeah. they've developed they've innovated. taking a cheap racing drone like with. the goggles that somebody wears fpv. drone and you put a a beer can size. charge that you can 3D print the casing. for it in the field with a little copper. disc on the front of it and drive that. into the back of a tank and for $1,500. you destroy a $2 million tank so that is.

like having a sniper rifle versus a guy. with a longbow a step change in Warfare. and we we're there right now and the. longer this combat goes in Ukraine the. Russians are getting a lot better. ukrainians have too but they're just. trying to you know the the battle is the. ultimate cold of learning yes and bad. ideas are quickly destroyed and. discarded and and so the proliferation.

of that knowledge is staggering so what. are we learning from watching I don't. think the US military is learning much. oh good no learning well no the problem. is the the US weapon systems aren't even. that high demand because they're not. that effective in that highly jammed. environment for 20 years of global war. on terror you were fighting against a. very comparatively unsophisticated enemy. now in a big state on state type War the.

US systems are not holding up you know. the javelin missile which jav which. rathon sells to the taxpayers for. $200,000 a shot with a $300,000 command. launch unit the ukrainians can only use. that for the first shot in a uh in an. ambush because their IR. detector if they shoot the first tank. the tank is very hot it's burning if. they try to shoot a second and third. missile the other missiles go for the. very hot spot on the battlefield they. can't even discern.

so then the Ukrainian shift from a. $200,000 missile from the Americans to. one that they build themselves for. $29,000 and it works just as well and. it's delivered on a drone delivered on a. drone or from an anti-tank missil yeah. so there the the the super high dollar. American stuff is not doing so well in. that battle space so I would assume I. mean the world is watching this. potential future adversaries are seeing. on display American Military capability.

and we should be concerned as taxpayers. and as Citizens that all this money. we've spent we have not gotten very good. value for in the same way but doesn't it. doesn't it display our our vulnerability. too if our weapon systems aren't working. in Ukraine why would they work in other. parts of the right aren't we sort of. showing our hand look some of the stuff. works well but at what cost right cuz. you know the hoties are using a 20 to. $50,000 drone to attack commercial.

shipping or us shipping in the Red Sea. Gulf of Aiden uh and the US has to shoot. that down with not one but two missiles. that cost $2 million a piece so you're. costing us $4 million to shoot down a. $50,000 drone bad math even in. Washington DC why wouldn't because this. is on display and the world is sort of. watching why wouldn't military planners. in the United States be taking notes and. adjusting accordingly because the money. keeps on going the same way with no.

accountability and. no uh no self introspection no learning. look who who got fired who got punished. for a complete debacle in Afghanistan. where over 20 years we replac the. Taliban with the. Taliban yeah that and nobody's been. fired the only guy that got fired was. Stu sheller what a good man he is the. young Marine who stood up and said. enough that's right cuz if cuz if one of. his to jail I know cuz if he said look.

if a couple of my young marines lost a. rifle on the rifle range they would be. punished we lost we left 80 some billion. dollars worth of military equipment and. turned over the country to a terror. organization and everybody's been. promoted and everybody is just it's. business as usual that's a problem this. kind of incompetence is not going to end. well so I mean I I have too many. questions and I do want to Circle back. to your initial point that Warfare is.

completely different a step changes you. said but how on this thread how does the. US Congress how do people who claim to. support our troops back the military. strong defense the the Liz Cheney wing. of the of the Congress like how do they. keep sending money to an organization. that's increasingly incapable of. defending the country I spoke to a bunch. of members yesterday morning uh in. Congress and they were at the point of. Despair because they're trying to. restrict the money and to bring some.

accountability and they said the the. money is the the the the amount of money. that is sprinkled around the capital by. the defense contractors by the. effectively the brigades worth of. lobbyists thousands of lobbyists. spreading tens of millions of dollars. around politicians and they just keep. the money train going it's it's really. disgusting and the and the big thing I. in the article I wrote recently it said. um you know in Rome like when the Romans.

lost a whole bunch of people at the. Battle of K yes when their Senate met a. couple weeks later it was 40%. undermanned why because the Roman Elites. actually served in the military and bore. the. consequences of failure our Elites don't. serve in the military they have very. little skin in the game or no skin and. so for them it's about it's it's about. money and grift or they're children. serving foreign militaries um so just. back back to the technology itself which. you've been watching all your life CU.

you've been around it all your life um I. think you had the world's largest. private Air Force at one point is that. true uh we had 73. aircraft that uh we owned and operated. and flew into Garden spots for for the. US it was fun um so what I I I I was. just at a Blackwater. reunion uh last weekend um and uh we had. it at the Alamo uh and it was just it. was really cool standing there on.

ground um because I didn't realize that. across the street from the Alamo is the. manger bar and that's actually where. Teddy. Roosevelt started the Rough Riders so. there's all kinds of Rough Rider. memorabilia in this bar raising a glass. to a great. American um and if I'd convinced Trump. to change policy in Afghanistan to. prevent the debacle which ended up. happening I was going to call that unit. the second us volunteer Cavalry the. first Vol us volunteer Cavalry was the. Rough Rider Sam on Hill exactly this was.

going to be two USV it would have worked. Afghanistan would be stable we would. have we would have saved America the. embarrassment yes uh and and really that. I'd say a a uh a pivotal moment for a. massive collapse in American credibility. and deterrence and it would have cost 5%. of what the US was already spending so. why couldn't I remember that very well. and in my memory you were not making the. case for a forever occupation you were.

making the case for a sensible draw down. that didn't destroy the all the. conventional forces could have left. right 90% of the contractors could have. left there would have been a small stay. behind Special Operations Force 6,000. contractors that's it um and and would. have kept accountability for the tens of. billions of dollars of us equipment that. was already there and would have kept. the government upright and you know. there's. now every Al-Qaeda every every crazy.

terrorist organization has set up shop. there in Afghanistan again where we've. not heard the last of Afghanistan it's. really sad why and I remember again I. remember that in fact I think we talked. and I know we talked about it at the. time and it seemed it seemed sensible it. seemed kind of non- ideological. practical how do we get this is kind of. a cluster [ __ ] how do we get out in the. best way possible preserving our own. interest to the extent that we can why. didn't the administration the Trump. Administration take you up on that I. would say the same neocon Perpetual War. presence in Washington that wants to do.

it the same way um that we've been doing. for decades and I would argue losing. doing that yes and it's about it's about. money and power and perpetuation not. about actually having a putting a bow on. a bad situation but how do those people. as they inevitably do seize the moral. High Ground in the in the opening. moments of the ideological battle and. position themselves as like the. champions of freedom and human rights. when in fact their monsters like how do.

they how do they get away with that. every single time I think it's a direct. result of the all volunteer Force which. seems a good idea I'm still supportive. of it but it means it's a very um the. people that actually serve that bear the. cost of these overseas efforts is maybe. one half of 1% of the population serving. 3 or 4% know that 1% and then 95% of. America has no clue and no skin in the. game and so they're easily bullshitted. by the uh the posturing jackasses in.

Washington that's yeah that's why Dan. crenchaw has a job um so I just want to. get back to to the technology because. I'm just I'm interested on behalf of all. people who sense turmoil ahead and are. say stockpiling. ammo right I think there are people like. that um is that fruitless given the. Technologies. um I would argue for Taiwan for example. face faing a possible Invasion or issue.

from coming from mainland China the best. thing they could do is Build a Home. Guard because a well-armed well. motivated people I mean as we showed in. Afghanistan as the Taliban showed the US. military yeah well motivated people even. using weapons that are 70 years old can. still beat a superpower with all the. Techno gimmickry yes uh it's not the. steel in the ships that make a great. Navy it's the steel in the men right the. steel in the crew.

but are you ever going to see another. war between states that's won or lost on. the basis of artillery. tanks I mean is that have we are those. the Cavalry Charges of today Cav. artillery is still the king of battle as. ukrainians are learning the hard way and. the Russians have gone from you know if. you shot at the Russians a year and a. half ago it would take him about an hour. and a half to shoot back accurately yes. to GE. locate um and to coordinate with their.

fire you know uh Fire Control centers to. shoot back now they're down to about two. or three minutes so they've learned and. they're coordinating and they've gotten. a lot better and it is wrong for us to. assume that our kung fu is all that good. right. now and what role did drones play going. forward to the extent You can predict. and imagine it very significant um you. know people say the tank is dead it's. gone forever h it will go just like.

chariots were the attack helicopter of. 2,000 years ago uh they'll still be a. role for tanks but people are going to. have to figure out how to knock down the. Swarms of incoming drones with hard kill. and soft kill Etc um it is always going. to you know Warfare is going to e and. flow but the ability to program very. sophisticated devices that fly very fast. that are very hard to kill you know the. the first strategic offset after World. War II was nuclear weapons yes we had.

nukes then the Russians did and then it. was about tonnage then the second offset. was Precision Weaponry now everybody has. Precision Weaponry so I would argue that. the third offset that the US should try. to. pursue uh dominance and we're far from. it is in an AI drone Innovation. application and I would say the most. Innovation that's happened has been in. Ukraine and Russia right now and we are. way behind because again Washington.

procurement people the the appr propes. people in Congress keep spending money. in the same way on the same stupid. cartel of Defense. contractors uh with the same failing. result when at the bleeding edge of. battle actual Innovation is happening by. dudes in their garage in Ukraine that. are fighting for their lives and they. they've innovated but um and we we. ignore that to our to our detriment so. these are countries with fewer marketing. majors and more Engineers coming out of.

there right marketing ma bad at creating. drones they've done well at stem yeah. they have done well and they're smart. people which no one wants to say but. it's true you may have come to the. obvious conclusion that the real debate. is not between Republican and Democrat. or socialist and capitalist right left. the real battle is between people who. are lying on purpose and people who are. trying to tell you the truth it's. between good and evil it's between. honesty and falsehood and we hope we are. on the former side that's why we created.

this network the Tucker Carlson Network. and we invite you to subscribe to it you. go to tuckercarlson.com. podcast our entire archive is there a. lot of behind the scenes footage of what. actually happens in this Barn uh when. only an iPhone is running Tucker. carlson.com. podcast you will not regret it what can. what will drones be able to do do you. think going in in 10 years what will. that look. like you could load a. face and between Network surveillance.

and the the facial recognition on that. drone find one person and fly into that. person's head that fast seriously yeah. so identity management privacy will. become even more uh essential you think. about how many cameras how much data is. being constantly collected everywhere. from street cameras from door knock from. doorbell cameras from facial recognition. at the.

airport. um privacy is really under attack oh. yeah well I've noticed and and now TSA. has decided to take your photograph. every time you walk through I went. through yesterday and they had to you. know stare into the screen and we'll. assess your face I said to the guy is. this mandatory and he said no it's not. and I said [ __ ] that I'm not doing that. and he goes I agree with. you like okay I mean but like what is. that why are they doing.

that uh data aggregation because they. can so it's not a good sign when your. own government is gathering data on you. is. it um like why would they possibly need. that why think about what what what what. chipped our founding fathers off right. paying some taxes on tea and land taxes. and I mean I guess our idea of um uh of. what we were resis over in terms of.

Liberty and government intrusion has. been very steadily eroding and now it's. I would say increasingly a steep curve. of descent yeah and it does seem like. the purpose of politicizing the military. and making it left-wing anti-white. protrans all this stuff which I think. the right just sort of says well that's. going to be a less effective military. it's bad they make fun of it but that. seems way darker to me I mean it does. seem like it's being we weaponized. against descent in the United.

States I I think you know the military. was one of the most trusted institutions. for sure and and I saw already even in. the 80s Ian look I went to the Naval. Academy in. 1987 and I left after a year and a half. because I found the political. correctness and the nonsense already. then. on the double standards that were. pursued by the by Academy leadership. while saying there are no double. standards I just found ridiculous what.

were the double. standards I remember going to the uh the. oour the first time and they said. there's this is one height of a of a. wall to get over for one gender and one. height for the other one and they said. oh the standards are all the same but. wait a minute they're Liars so yeah so. just let's if you're going to if you're. going to call it the same then be the. same but at least let's be consistent. and so the and the amount of recruiting. for specific Sports teams of people that. were completely unqualified to be there.

or to be naval officers was staggering I. love the Navy I just didn't like. the a school run by the federal. government so so you I didn't fully. realize it so you made it through the. first year where people drop out yeah no. I I I left halfway through my sophomore. year I finished my finals so you did the. hard stuff and you still dropped out. yeah it's not that hard it's just you. have to have a a high tolerance high. tolerance for [ __ ] that's all get.

yeah that's dropped in you I notice yeah. yeah but I I I rolled to Hill still so. you know went quite the opposite to one. run by the federal government to one. that accepted no federal funding at all. interesting so even in 1987 why didn't. anyone say anything about it because. women don't fight different Wars. presumably it would be the same War so. that's like very obviously insane look I. had no issue with women being at theem. but at least make equal enforcement.

that's all if it's going to you're going. to call it the same then be the same. that's fine and but I what I also found. I went to Hillsdale and I joined the. fire department of the local town and I. learned more about small unit leadership. there than I did in the very artificial. learning lab that was the academy why'd. you join the Fire Department in college. because it was cool because it was fun. come on I I got to do a lot of things in. life but driving a fir Tru to a fire. lights and sirens is definitely in the. top. how many kids in your class were in the.

fire department none not since then it's. been more of a thing but I was the first. one ever at Hillsdale to join the fire. department and it. was convincing the gruff firefighters. and it was a full-time part-time so. there's a couple of full-time guys but. the rest were like a butcher and a trash. truck driver and building contractor so. convincing them that this snot-nosed. college kid was okay to go through a. burning building with them was there was. no small uh admissions process one of.

the things I think is most interesting. about you which I know you hate to talk. about but um is the fact that you were. from an affluent family and so you. didn't actually need to do any of that. at all why did you do. that uh sense of mission sense of. service and mostly a sense of. adventure so you never thought like you. know we're rich I don't need to this is. just nonsense I'm going to no that was. never bummer on Europe for the summer. never part of the equation. why no I did no I did I got married uh.

between my Junior and Senior year and I. took a long honeymoon and we went. through Eastern Europe but the funny. thing is we uh through Eastern Europe. what year was that that was 91 that was. as the whole Soviet Union was c yeah I. got married that year I remember and we. went to um we went on the Baltic. Liberation tour with Pat Buchanan and. Lou Rockwell from the vesus Institute. and we went to uh Lithuania Latvia. Estonia. uh and we visited the government.

buildings which were still surrounded. and occupied by Soviet interior Ministry. troops but they'd had free elections so. it was fascinating to see a place. literally at the inflection point of. embracing what month in 91 was this that. was May okay so I got married that. summer also and I went to the mid ocean. Club in tuckerstown. Bermuda um it seemed more romantic than. Estonia what did your wife think your. Young Bride think when you're like we're. getting married but actually the. honeymoon is in eastern you're in this. like the hellscape of Eastern Europe.

honey do you know anything about. stalinist architecture I'm going to show. you we road trip through but it was it. was really funny I I'll never forget um. babe Buchanan bought an entire uniform. off of a Soviet Border guard a captain. for 20 bucks and we were at a restaurant. and comes back with a whole uniform on. the hanger and 20 bucks and as we're. leaving the country another one of our. group had a uh luggage that you have to. put through the scanner and. uh you can see in the scanner it looks. like there's a manhole cover in his.

suitcase there's this huge disc the. Soviet Border guard opens a thing this. is a very big. problem how much to make the problem go. away $50 it was an entire bronze bust of. Lenin that have been yanked off a. building and my our friend was exporting. it so I thought you know if they're. selling Lenin for $50 off a government. building this is not long for Comm oh in. fact it was I think it was in August of. that year two months later it was done. that's incredible um so my final.

question about the drones I mean is it I. is it a crazy thing to consider the. possibility that the government might. employ this technology against its own. citizens deploy it against its own. citizens if they're putting people if. people are still rotting in prison for. protesting at the capital on January 6th. if they're putting a woman got four. years in prison yesterday for protesting. outside an abortion clinic it's a. government at war with its own citizens. so why wouldn't drones be part of that.

um entirely possible how hard are they. to shoot down with say a 12 gauge uh. that's actually one of the uh it's a big. problem for the small fpv drones they're. so small and small hard so hard to hit. it's almost like hitting a uh a Tagan. very hard to hit that bird very fast. very fast I know you love bird hunting. so I try to correlate it to you know or. maybe a very like a quail on cocaine oh. it's that tough yeah it sounds kind of. sporty so what is the defense so if Nets. net Nets Nets are Nets are a cheap.

simple defense for small fpv drones. because it's a small charge if you can. keep the charge away from the target the. the small charge doesn't have that much. effect but you know P for plenty you can. always increase the the poundage my. sense is that police departments and. State Police have drones now for. surveillance yes for surveillance how. hard is it to to alter a surveillance. drone to become an offensive weapon. well the ukrainians and the Russians.

have done that in their garages or in a. tent on the edge of battle pretty easily. okay so why wouldn't I mean if you care. about living in a non totalitarian. country if you care about America why. wouldn't someone say and say actually no. we're not you know we're just going to. pass a federal law that no law. enforcement or Intel agency or the US. military these things cannot be used. domestically against Americans period. under any circumstances or certainly not. armed or surveillance like why do you. need you know what it mean look for.

for stopping a mass shooter or some. actual terrorism event it provides good. situation awareness and it protects the. cops who are trying to do an honest job. um but the the the the leakage in the. same way that the forever Wars of Iraq. or Afghanistan and all those. surveillance tools that the government. tells us they need to protect us the the. danger is certainly some of that Tech on. the arm side leaking back to be used.

domestically that's a I don't see any. effort by the US government to stop mass. shootings in fact they seem to be. abetting them and time and time again. you find in the small print in the right. up after the shooting that the person. has been detained repeatedly by some. branch of government you saw a new valdi. the cops refused to go in and save the. kids as they were being executed etc etc. there just doesn't seem any will to stop. mass shootings there seems to be instead. yeah but I don't see that I I don't the. Uvaldi one was not a I I wouldn't say. that's not a top- down Federal.

conspiracy that was individual. inadequacy of training because there's. because there's dozens of other ones. where the cops have just been. spectacular like in Nashville yes but. then you see the political correctness. of them being reluctant to release the. the the the writings of this trans. shooter who was out to kill Christians. right so great individual Valor by those. cops bad by by the cop leadership or the. law enforcement leadership by not.

releasing the truth let's have a massive. disinfecting effect of Truth on this. situation so for sure but there's no. will obviously in the media to get to. that information so it's left to like. people on X to do it but I mean you've. been in and around the government since. you were 18 and shipped off to Annapolis. so do you think it's fair for the rest. of us who haven't to be skeptical of. massive increases in government power. military and law enforcement power that.

are justified by some. threat like we should be highly. skeptical yeah Mass Shooters child. molesters human traffickers Islamic. terrorists like I I don't think the. government does a good job of protecting. us from any of those things but they've. certainly increased their power and. their power to kill me and my family on. the basis of those threats more on. poverty more poverty War on Drugs more. drugs war on terrorism didn't go so well. right. um and and just to that I know we're.

jumping around but I I have too many. questions but um maybe we both suffer. from a little add well I mean there's. just a lot to go through so you were at. the center of the war on terror um more. than any other American I would say no. well I mean we had a we had our our. shoulder to the wheel pushing like. everybody else I but the the scale was. you know I don't think there's ever been. a more effective military contractor in. a in a war that I'm aware of in the. United States then than blackw which you. started and ran so but you know you were.

subject to the policy makers as well and. as in the Afghanistan withdrawal not one. of them Not only was not like indicted. or punished but not a single one of them. sort of lost a step in career. advancement they all kind of went on to. the Atlantic Council or whatever or. their board seats or their board seats. on the big defense contractors so how so. since you watch that how did that happen. like how did Tori and nulan go from Dick. Cheney's office to being like the number. two person in the state department. overseeing the war in Ukraine like.

that's just crazy to. me uh because it's at that it's almost a. uni party it is the party of big. government and big Washington and more. spending and more Warfare and 100%. wrong the guys that you serve with um on. in the SEAL Teams and that you know who. you've been around in the subsequent 30. years like how do they feel about that. like guys who did you know three or four.

deployments or more the guys that. actually paid the cost of EX of bad. policymaker decisions yeah were their. friends commit suicide and they didn't. see their kids grow up or they got. killed or lost a limb like those guys. yep what do they think they're disgusted. they're. angry they're righteously angry because. it it they believe in the Republic when. you when you join the military you swear. to defend the Constitution against all. enemies foreign and domestic and you. kind of join thinking all those enemies. are going to be abroad but some of the. enemies of Liberty are probably here and.

and when when a elite enriches. themselves and separates them from the. realities of consequences of. accountability that's a that's a. pendulum that swings out far but nature. has a way of swinging the pendulum back. to the middle and so that either gets. done in within the rule of law and. accountability or things can come apart. very quickly frighteningly it it's part. of the accountability is in informal. it's social pressure which is very.

effective shame exactly and humor we. need first of all we need to just laugh. at the freaking incompetence I'd say. when you when you. track. um I made the last deployment on the USS. America an old uh it was a fuel fired. aircraft carrier and they used. to uh everything is measured on an. aircraft carrier especially The Landings. cuz it's all about the aviators and who. has the best launch and Recovery.

especially the you know the Trap so they. measure which which wire you catch and. everything so once a month there's a. thing called the folkal Foles which is. the front of the ship below the flight. deck where the the chains come out of. the belly. Y and so all the airwing and the the. senior ship's crew would muster there. and they'd go through all the scores but. then it would go through the most. merciful merciless roasting of anybody. it was the most. vicious humor I've ever seen in my life.

like guys who screwed up The Landings. screwed up The Landings the EXO the co. it was no holds bar it was fantastic it. was hilarious and very healthy and but. now that you've you have a much more. politically correct military you can't. do that at all they don't do that. anymore nope no but I mean if if you. can't. land an aircraft on a pitching deck of. an aircraft carrier I mean you put your.

own life the hardware and the lives of. the sailors at risk correct right right. so the stakes could not be higher high. stakes very important. Mission literally lives on the line and. it's good to to reinforce good behavior. and to punish bad. behavior and and and shame and derision. of your. peers matters so looking back since. again you you were so close to what was.

happening during that whole period or at. least until maybe 2012 but for the. critical years you were like right there. who who do you blame. most for the mistakes made in. Afghanistan and Iraq and the subsequent. Wars who are the villains who shouldn't. get board. seats look any we went through like 18. different commanders 18 different. fourstar generals over the course of. Afghanistan got a lot of fourstar. generals we have as many generals now as.

we did in World War II when we had 14. million men under arms so now you have. 10% of that so you have basically 1.4. million underarms versus 14 and we have. the same amount of flag officers so yeah. we are massively. overstaffed and you think about all the. and this I mean they have no Indians. each fourstar General has a personal. Butler and a valet and a driver and a. cook and all those kind of uh quaint.

18th century habits of staff that they. surrounded military generals with we. have that yet for our generals back when. generals were Brave though generals got. killed in the Civil War yes and not so. much. now so it's just it's just enormous the. the the there there can be a massive. winnowing of of headcount across the. board in Generals in staffs. and in civilians the tooth to tail ratio.

of the military of like how many when. you say teeth people that put Warheads. on foreheads versus tail has gotten way. out of whack we have way too much tail. like an alligator sized tail with a. salamander size. bite it's it's just it's so unbelievably. corrupt so but but again the but again. no it's it's it's corrupt because we. just keep throwing money at it and no. one ever calls [ __ ] a business. business that goes through a massive.

growth. cycle everybody can get fat and sloppy. and lazy cuz you just there's always. more money and there we never have to. tighten a belt and so the the US. military has been on like a a um Crispy. Cream Bender of. donuts compounding amount of doughnuts. consumed every day and no one's ever. tightened them up and saying all right. today we're just ping and we're not. eating Donuts that's across our entire. government but especially in the.

military which is supposed to exist. constitutionally to defend and deter and. and I don't think we're we're not. getting the money that we're spend we're. not getting the value that we're. spending money on right now no it seems. we're at a point where it's dangerous. yep um and it does seem I just want to. restate I don't know this as a dead. certain fact but I can feel it very. strongly I think the purpose of it is to. keep you know I think I think the enemy. that they're seeking to fight lives here. I mean I think this is a political. I think the policy makers feel that way.

they're very anxious to control any. instrument of force I would. argue it's about for for the defense. contractors they just want to keep. selling expensive weapons right and they. will keep paying politicians to keep. buying the expensive. weapons I almost feel I don't feel sad. for the for the White House as they deal. with a problem like in Yemen where the. hoties have become long-range Pirates. and have shut off the entire Red Sea.

like 50% of global container traffic. flowed through the Red Sea now it. doesn't Egypt is losing $800 million a. month in Lost toll fees from from. container traffic and all those ships. have to go all the way around South. Africa now to make it to Europe coming. out of Asia it's a big problem and I'm. sure the Navy the or the the the the dod. policy makers only provide the. administration. with the 50 and hundred billion solution.

to go beat down the hoties to make them. behave and and in that article I wrote I. just come back to there's such a. constant rejection of market-based. private sector. Solutions because the Saudis and the. Israelis actually had this problem back. in the 60s when uh there was a war in. Yemen and they hired David Sterling the. founder of the SAS he went there with 30. guys and they kicked ass and it worked.

and it was cheap and simple and. practical and in in this article I wrote. uh just is a is a Litany of those kind. of rejections and that's my frustration. because I provided a lot of those. options even to deter the Ukraine war in. the first place you know um when. um pretty I I my internal Intel sources. gave me pretty good idea that already in. December of 21 3 months before The. Invasion that the Russians were going to.

invade that it was not a it was not a. song and dance and so I wrote a paper. proposing a combination of lend lease. and Flying Tigers to deter the war. because in 1940 when Britain was really. in it the US gave 50 destroyers bunch of. aircraft guns gave it to the Brits we. also provided aircraft and allowed us. Pilots to take lead and go to work for. the Nationalist Chinese to stop the.

Japanese from bombing cities called The. Flying Tigers yeah in this case and we. aring yeah and made it possible to go. from Moscow to to Berlin to to stop the. Nazis. but Biden could have done one very. simple thing he could have. announced okay no war necessary in. Ukraine they're never going to join part. of NATO but they're at least going to. have an Air Force because there was. already 200 aircraft set to retire from. the US Air Force to be flown to the.

desert in. 2022 50 F5s 50 f16s some a10s already. written down to zero value to the. taxpayer they're going to be flown to. the desert to the Boneyard and parked. for eternity transfer those to. ukrainians would have been less than a. billion dollars prevent the. war and the discussion of NATO done but. they wanted the war. obviously apparently why or they or they. believe their own [ __ ] that they.

that their power points and their. posturing would dissuade look I I I I. understand why the Russians get orary. about it because if if the the Russians. the Chinese were looking to make uh the. northern provinces of Mexico into active. parts of a Chinese or Russian Alliance. we'd get or about that well obviously. right they're putting if they put you. know look at what happened when they put. missiles Cuba in 1962 but missiles in. Tijana that would be unacceptable right.

so my question is and this is is all. complex and delicate and you know I. understand to some extent but what I. don't understand is sending kamla Harris. to the Munich security conference and. saying at a press briefing with cameras. rolling to zalinsky we want you to join. NATO you only say that if you want a war. you want the Russians to invade like why. would they want. that I I. maybe maybe they're just that.

dumb I don't think and I think they are. dumb I mean they're well they're. definitely Tony blinkin I mean really. dumb having a rock concert in. Kiev during massive combat operations. while the Ukrainian Army is getting. crushed he just he just visited and he's. up there on stage he's up there on stage. with his guitar it's like that is Nero. fiddling while Rome Burns here it is. [Music].

[Music]. so yeah I mean he's a child obviously um. and and like an angry destructive child. but what happens like where does this go. we send another $60 billion to. Ukraine most of that money goes to five. major US defense contractors yes to. replace at five times the cost with the. weapons cost that we already sent the. ukrainians meaning you know if we send.

them something that was built 10 years. ago well now it's going to cost four and. five times as much so again it's a. massive grift paid by a pentagon that. doesn't know how to buy stuff cost. effectively it doesn't change the. outcome on the battle the the as t as. the fields. dry it's may now coming up on Tank. season the was it Tank season. again weather still matters in Warfare. and um you know if you have a a wet snow.

covered Farm field it's very muddy very. gooey not great for tanks mud season mud. season I think the Russians call it the. great rasputitsa the great slush yeah. that's done now and uh as June comes. it'll be game on and I think the Russian. bear is hungry and uh and they're going. to have a time so the war should have. been ended never should have started it. they should have made a deal froze the. lines. six months into it but the Biden.

Administration believed. that uh all this American Weaponry would. have saved the day it hasn't and it's. ugly and you know the Russian the. Russian commanders are not idiots they. know their history the Battle of KK. which happened just north of where the. fighting is now was the largest tank. battle in history it was the last. offensive effort of the of the ger Army. against the the. Soviets and they tried to push from the.

north and south on this Salient it was a. bulge and the Russians knew they were. coming and so they built lots of lines. of defenses the same thing they've done. now that they did last summer which ate. up all that equipment and now the. ukrainians are very thin they've had a. lot of corruption issues all the. defenses that were supposed to be built. by the ukrainians are much smaller or. non-existent and so now it's allowing. maneuver and especially as the tanks is. the fields dry and you can maneuver it's. going to be a very ugly summer very ugly.

summer what do you think the Russians. want uh I'd say now they want to. absolutely humiliate the. west and make sure that they never have. a problem with Ukraine. again that seems. achievable I'm afraid so what happens to. Ukraine I don't know if it survives as. an independent country if they take. Odessa if they take the ability for. Ukraine to export its grain. um that really threatens the long-term.

economic viability maybe maybe it goes. back to look Western Ukraine used to be. part of Poland right eastern Ukraine. used to be part of Russia so you know. maps maps move depending on um you know. military victories Drive diplomatic. breakthroughs so you think and right now. the Russians are winning and they're. going to have a very good summer is. there anybody who's knowledgeable on. this subject who believes Ukraine can. quote win which is to say push Russian. troops all the way back to the to the.

old Russian border well I didn't really. believe it ever um oh I know that but I. I I don't um I don't know who's advising. the White House at this point or who. they're listening to but um they. probably need to change out their. advisor list but so but then you have. the Secretary of State our buffoonish. secretary of state Tony blinkin um. Boomer parody uh showing up and telling. the ukrainians during his Rock concert. that you know we're with you forever.

like how could you say something like. that when I've never met a single person. who knows anything about the region who. thinks ukrainians will achieve Victory. no matter how much money we send them. how could you say something like that. it's good money after bad and all we're. all we're doing now is facilitating the. demise of of Ukrainian men and. destroying them for future Generations. so how many have died I I I've asked. members of Congress who are funding this. stuff hundreds of thousands but but why. I here's what I understand if you're. paying for this war which the United. States is the US Congress is Mike.

Johnson is don't you have a moral. obligation to know its consequences like. how can you just how can you get up. there with a Ukrainian lapel pin and. talk about the brave Ukrainian people. who are being killed by the hundreds of. thousands and you don't even keep track. of the casualties like aren't you kind. of a monster for doing that I don't. understand and you look at if you if you. made the pictures of the modern battle. space on the front a little grainy in. black and white yeah it's. indistinguishable from the Battle of the. s or World War I well that's what.

exactly right artillery a grinding. crushing pointless loss of. humanity but it's being embedded by our. policy makers like they they they're. responsible for this to some extent like. what and and it it's it's shocking how. unip party government has become you. don't seem shocked that they don't care. about how many ukrainians have died they. don't care about how many US troops die. really good point no it's totally for. Point too because they because they'll. send they'll send US troops to war with.

a whole bunch of cockamamy Rules of. Engagement and policies and it's just. not a serious way to wage Warfare the. the the the whole premise of gwatt was. that we could by surgic by American. magic and precision we could always just. clip off the head of the snake and the. whole body would die of the snake and. that's just that flies in the face of. every kind of Warfare when you look back. to. World War II we killed off 30% of the.

German male population World War I same. American Civil War same uh the the the. Continental Wars in Europe in the 17. 1800s back to the Punic and pelian Wars. you destroy their Manpower the logistics. and their Finance this cutting off the. head of the snake is a Fool's. errand is there any precedent for it in. history no so I thought a sort of a key. component of education at the military. cies was military. history no I'm I'm serious and you I.

mean you're a living example of it you. you went to one and you know an awful. lot about your business I didn't read I. didn't learn that at the Academy really. no no that's a lifetime of curiosity I I. was a military history geek as a kid. when we my family went to Normandy when. I was 11 and uh you know I was the tour. guide sword gold Juno Beach Pegasus. Bridge all that yeah I was I was that. but I mean nerdy geeky kid so do you. think your average like modern flag.

officer is just sort of not aware of the. history of warfare I'm sure they get. some level of it but they have not made. it a career I I would say the best book. I read on General officers was a one it. was a British military study it's called. the psychology of military. incompetence and it and it went through. five of the biggest disasters in British. military history like the surrender at. Singapore yeah cartoon yeah cartoon. Baghdad in World War I of course the.

Afghan withdrawal yes um into P yes and. and it went and it compare literally. looked through the guy's childhood where. he went to school his relationship with. his father all the rest and very. consistent themes and uh what were they. um they were very bookish very geeky not. uh not self. um no. introspection yeah so they're Tony.

blinking basically just not not a people. able to say okay this is not working. we're going to we're going to attack. we're going to attack the boat because. the this is not working in this. direction and so the they're weak men in. other. words yeah look the the the anomaly of. Patton is doesn't occur very. often Patton who's been minded since his. death um remarkable human being um and.

of course you know Hollywood is I don't. know how many movies they've done. telling us Patton was bad um but you. know there are some suggestion that. Patton was also murdered do you think. that that's. possible it'd be a hell of a difficult. well I don't know if the traffic. accident the Jeep rollover yeah was an. accident but then but he survived it and. then died. later I I man I don't know but he hated. the Soviets he hated communism oh I know. so what I don't want to get too far a. field here but I I that does seem like a.

pivot point in world history where that. war you know April. 1945 Hitler kills himself Berlin is. occupied by the Russians etc etc we we. win in Europe and then we sort of like. kind of pivot toward the Soviet Union. for a few years till maybe the. rosenbergs Orly before well and even the. amount of Communists agents that were. surrounding Roosevelt oh well Hopkin. Harry opkins is literally Soviet agent. yeah right so um but like why did that.

happen like how do we fight this war for. freedom and then wind up S handing. Poland to Stalin for example or on the. side of the totalitarian handing all of. those countries the war of course yeah. it it showed uh so how is this a war for. Freedom if we're handing an exhaustion. of moral leadership yeah I think who was. that who do you think if we could hold. one person responsible Truman was. President yeah Roosevelt was dead so as.

Churchill said he died in the traces but. I think. um I I think when you look at history. the the LIE of socialism communism it is. such a it's it's easy for elitists to. love that Paradigm because it's because. the because the rightwing Austrian. school economics approach is massive. decentralization yeah decision making at. the micro level a farmer knows what.

prices are has a good idea what demand. is going to be decides whether he's. going to plant more Acres that that year. or not and takes that risk himself the. Soviet planner says I need everyone to. plant this many acres and we're going to. do it at this price and it's it's the. LIE of individual incentive versus. massive Central planning to the. betterment of elite thinking right with. with the grift that goes with it and. that's just a that's like a mindworm.

disease that so many people continue. generation after generation continue to. fall for yeah it's a mom based system. whereas the let the farmer figure it out. it's a dad based. system yeah it's true yeah what are you. a farmer like how do you know like. that's what your dad says your mom's. like no let's let's get it. all sorry but that's why I'm I I I'm so. excited to see melee having success in. Argentina. for a guy and maybe it's analogy to to.

America because he got sick of I mean. you know at the end of World War II cap. per capita living standards in Argentina. were higher than Switzerland yes. panistas socialists take over they run. the company they were in the country. basically off the cliff. hyperinflation e economic wreckage. terrible melee gets sick of not only the. panistas but the pathetic so-called. right-wing opposition which is not. opposition he starts his own political. party and he wins I mean I like any guy.

that'll campaign with a chainsaw I agree. with that you think that'll happen. here I don't think the Republican party. is really that salvageable anymore no of. course because it's been gobbled up by. corporatists yes and the you know the. defense industry now spreads money. equally right and left not even really. right just across the Washington. Insiders. uh so yeah maybe an entirely new. political movement that's why Trump is.

transformational because he kind of came. outside the Republican party right and. did it and um I hope he can I hope he. can move the needle somewhere in the. right direction because it's it's. teetering so I got to ask you personal. question we were in the Middle East. together not that long ago and I noticed. two things one um you flew coach to the. Middle. East um which obviously you don't need. to do but you did it on purpose I think. you that is your custom um were the same. age 3 weeks apart and I think most like.

why would you do that and the second. thing I noticed is you went from there. to some far more obscure part of the. world um so like explain those things if. you. would I. um when I I got out of the SEAL Teams. earlier than I wanted to I loved being a. seal I was pretty good at it I think and. um I would have had nice career going. there for those who don't know the story. if you could explain why you got out oh.

my dad died um and when I was 25 and my. wife got cancer no I was 26 she was 29. and she got cancer so I got out to sort. out the home front and that's really why. I started Blackwater just as a way to. stay connected to the SEAL Teams um I. knew nothing of business nothing of Land. Development nothing of Government. Contracting but I kind of knew what the. Special Operations Community needed and. building that business was um was a. really great experience it was it was.

family policy for my dad to not come and. work in the family business after. college you had to go do your own thing. I had no I I I didn't want anything to. do with this business I was not I don't. think I was really suited for it and um. but I was going to come and work with. him after 12 years or so of being a. seal starting Blackwater building it was. one of the most satisfying things I've. ever done in my life cuz bringing. together. people with great talents that were. really good that they'd gained in the.

military and they'd retired or or gotten. out and having it smashed the way it was. really left a bad taste in my mouth and. I'll be honest I carry a big chip on my. shoulder yet for and I try to keep it in. perspective so look I had a business. that was crushed and lost thousands of. guys lost their lives their limbs their. mental health their spouses over a badly. run war in two theaters by by idiot. Washington Elites same idiots that. smashed my.

business um so yeah I got a chip on my. shoulder to do. something big and effective and. spectacular again and run hard until. that happens or or I die trying but I. mean you know 54 55y Old guys who've. been successful which you have been. despite having your business smashed. they don't fight coach like what is that. is that like a just a Spartan impulse or. you just don't want to get soft you get. there at the same. time yeah but it's I could I fly so much. that anyway look just weird I know we're.

the same age I know how this work look. I'm not I'm not an AB I'm not a purist I. do fly business class 10% of the. time I mean that's that's fine if you're. flying to Fort Lauderdale from DC or. something but you know Dubai's a long. way I just think it's very very. interesting learn to sleep in any. position so that's what it that's what. it is yeah yeah I like that what's the. weirdest place you've been. recently why are you always in.

Africa um what do you do for a living. Eric I feel like I knew you pretty well. not really sure I would say there are. lots of countries that um need help. organizing with the basics of tax. collection and security assistance and. border security and uh police advisement.

because what we take for granted in. America if you want to start a business. in. America you can call a law office in. Delaware get a business in two hours for. 200 bucks it's simple and you can get. title to your land here you can get a. bank account you get a business license. you can you can do all those things that. make Capital formation possible there. are so many parts of the world where. that's not possible and so providing. them the very basic means of a reliable. Police Department or the means to.

stop gangs Jihadi gangs criminal gangs. whatever so I do provide some advice to. countries how to do that from time to. time I I judging by what little I know. of your travel schedule it seems pretty. frequent that's interesting so since you. are everywhere all the time um and most. Americans are including me sort of only. dimly aware of what's happening around. the world name three places we should be. paying more attention to now than we.

are the Chinese Communist party has been. very active in. Mexico um the fentel crisis is very much. you know last year fentel in America. killed like 109,000 people. yes um it is funded organized. logistically facilitated by the Chinese. Communist party to to move the precursor. chemicals that are actually made near. Wuhan China shipped to either Venezuela.

or Mexico fabricated in Fentanyl and. basically blended with other common. drugs that people are taking and it. doesn't make any sense to do so because. why would a drug dealer want to kill his. customers that's what's happening and it. is an absolute it's a [ __ ] you from the. CCP against the West for the Opium Wars. of the 1840s. and it's done to to murder American. children 100% yes and just to be clear.

these are not junkies who like took too. much these are kids who ordered off. Instagram yes or a a a a a bootleg peret. or something yeah exactly exactly and so. they're people dying and that is you. trace that and I can show all that going. right back to Mainland China why. wouldn't why are we sending all these. armaments to Ukraine and we could bomb. those facilities in Mexico if they're if. killing excuse me 100,000 Americans you.

don't you don't need to bomb fire is an. underutilized. tool that's true well it's happening. here I I noce there quite a few. manufacturing and agricultural. facilities that seem to be going up in. smoke in this country yeah and so look. at the same and and and on. that the last time blinkin was in. Beijing he didn't even call him on it to. say stop he said well no it's yeah maybe. some of the stuff is coming from China. but it's really just a shipping. accidental shipping problem I mean it's.

it is such a denial of reality it's it's. hard I mean you're so I guess what. you're saying is you're not speculating. about this this is known. 100% do the intell agencies I assume. know this yeah but nobody wants to do. anything. why I think the um you have an agency. that doesn't want to do their job which. agency the CIA because I think and I. know you have rightly very mixed.

feelings on the CIA. H however the mission of the CIA if you. think about the state department can. handle 5% of issues diplomats and. embassies you want your military over. here your conventional military it's a. big Angry Dog waiting to be let off. leash that hopefully never. is the middle of the world those those. problems. you think about how the Soviet Union was. really undermined in the 80s there was n.

there was 20 covert action findings that. were signed couple by Carter mostly by. Ragan done to undermine the Soviet Union. economically politically culturally. socially and that was done under title. 50 authorities and that worked without. having to involve big military. expenditure there are if you want to. stop like how we know we know fentel is. a problem we know the Chinese are a. problem doing it. that's specifically what the title 50. authorities are for to say to six guys.

go make that problem. stop I I and if you have an agency that. doesn't want to do their job that's why. it's not happening but they seem to be. doing so many other things I mean I. apped to C my dad worked with CIA I'm. not I was never against CIA I thought. only like dumb liberals were against CIA. you know and Traders or whatever so my. views on CIA have evolved based on. things that I have seen and personally. experienced. and my conclusion is not that everyone. there particularly you the.

paramilitaries I know a million of them. seem like great guys whatever but on. some like basic level it seems totally. out of control to me I it is I mean when. you have the leadership of the. CIA this Havana syndrome is a real thing. what does that mean it's a um it's. effectively a microwave weapon that's. been used. to effectively uh blast the brains of. Americans working out of embassies first. in Havana Colombia.

Delhi Hanoi. Vienna Washington. DC lots of places okay hurting severely. hurting Americans serving abroad and the. CIA director. says it's all in their minds it's Bia. yeah it's that that's wrong when your. people are getting screwed by a so so. you think that's it's I don't have a. view on that I mean I'm sort of I I. don't know the answer but I'm. sympathetic to open to both.

possibilities being true but you think. based on evidence that this is. absolutely real yes I know it to be real. wow who's doing this and why it was a it. was a it was a uh a device that was. developed in the Soviet Union in the uh. early 70s actually in Ukraine so and the. I think the K uh development plant not. that it had nothing to do with your now. but it's a. um uh it's about the size of a um uh.

like a beverage cart on an aircraft that. size device uh and it's very damaging. and and the fact that the Russians can. do that to us without. consequences it it shows how how. pathetic they view the CIA and the US. government to not push back on. consequences so CIA it what motive would. they have to pretend this wasn't real. cuz it would require push back somewhere. somehow but they're literally fighting. Russia in Ukraine CIA is all over. Ukraine fighting.

Russia good question I mean put it this. way they don't like me enough that I was. uninvited from a dear friend's. retirement 10 days ago oh I bet I bet. they don't like you and you've obviously. worked with them most of your life right. I we did a lot of great work for. them 100% success rate but yeah look. people the wrong people being in charge. the agency has also gotten hyper bloated. basically the same number of case. officers that there's always been for 25.

years but the place has grown tenfold of. all the wrong kind of people under you. know the decision making of a guy like. Brennan yes and why does Brennan hate. the actual do the director of operations. because he's a failed case officer he he. flunked out of school I mean how did a. guy that voted for Gus Hall in 1976 who. was Gus Hall Gustavo Hallberg he was the. Finnish American head of the American. Communist party in New York City exactly. how does a guy vote for the head of the. Communist party in 1976 at the height of.

the Cold War and then pass whatever. background check the agency is doing and. have a security clearance I find that. stunning he retains his security. clearance because the last. Administration refused to strip him of. his security clearance despite the fact. he was actively working to undermine a. democratically elected president yeah no. I know the the the levels of betrayal. and self- betrayal are just almost. mindboggling let me ask you specifically. about what the CIA does in Ukraine. so I think it's fair to say based on. what even the New York Times has.

reported that the uh the CIA is is. running effectively the Ukrainian Intel. services I don't know I honestly don't. know that I'm certainly they have theyve. been there advising and supporting but I. think the. ukrainians probably grew frustrated at. um uh will you know lack of uh lack of. willingness to do certain things so I I. I don't know where the US support ends. and where the Ukrainian unilateral stuff. begins so but they I asked because.

they've assassinated people I think they. tried to assassinate me for example but. they definitely killed Alexander duan's. daughter um they you know allowed an. American critic of the Ukrainian. government to die in prison lra Gonzalo. lra and you're sort of like well wait a. second if this is a proxy war and we're. overseeing it then is the US government. aware of this responsible for it like. what US government should protect.

American citizens but clearly and and if. you had a honest look Deon Nunes did a. good job as the chairman of the hipy of. trying to dig into the nonsense and he. obviously met all kinds of resistance. but he had fight in him now the. Republican oversight of the Intel. committee or of of the Intel agencies. completely inadequate but even then and. I I I like to have a lot um but they're. those guys are all afraid of the CIA as. you know they're afraid of them they.

know they're being spied on by CIA or. NSA or or any you know FBI they know. they're being members of Congress that. are supposed to be in charge of. overseeing these agencies are being. spied on by them they're fully aware of. that I know because they've told me to. my face I'm not guessing and that's just. that's not democracy that's like totally. crazy yeah that's that's like Marcus. wolf and the stazzy that's EXA that's. exactly right the East German referee. the most because the stazi was way more. effective than any other Intel service.

even the KGB yes it was the embodiment. of German efficiency Innovation and was. like the only effective institution in. the entire country. Al what does that mean everything was in. order yeah nice so and then I know that. CIA runs businesses like runs businesses. outside the country and those are. sources of income for the agency that. like how can a government agency run. businesses I don't understand that and.

profit from them I am I am truly not. aware of any of that okay um but how do. you rein it in I mean because it of. course could be an essential tool of. diplomacy statecraft of you know the. projection of power I mean you could see. how CIA could be helpful to your country. the agency is the most easy to reform of. all federal. agencies Civil Service rules don't apply. yes you can fire anyone for any reason. that fact you could clean house have. have a all hands meeting at the bubble. on a Friday yeah and send 50% of them.

home send them out to send them out to. their cars and tell them we'll ship your. stuff from your desk you could clean it. out that fast but why does no one do. that maybe no one's had the balls as the. Director or the deputy director to do. that do you believe CIA has in the last. 25 years use violence against any. American citizen. uh yeah Barack Obama killed a American. citizen and his 16-year-old son correct.

alak in uh in. Yemen right and that's publicly known. but there you know there all sorts. of you know there's evidence that. there're that's not an isolated maybe. there's more but I know that one y so. you don't think it's crazy to assume. that um entirely possible I well there's. a lot of there's a lot of people that. are considered American citizens that. prob shouldn't be considered American I. agree with that but an actual America. some here yeah yeah fair but the left.

has so devalued citizenship right it. should mean something to be an American. I mean a Roman citizen it meant. something oh some a Venezuelan gang. member who's here illegally is every bit. as American as you who born in western. Michigan so yes I'm quite quite aware of. that um anchor babies Birthright. citizenship all of that must go. yeah you wonder you know if we've. reached a point where that it's.

impossible for the country to act in its. own interest just because of the changes. due to immigration I I read a lot of. history and I know that things have been. a lot worse in certain. societies and um corrective events can. be shocking and traumatic to people but. it's still. possible um CIA and not just CIA but FBI. and other agencies. supposed to be enforcing the law and. Gathering intelligence have this has. been shown withheld information from.

democratically elected presidents a. number of them certainly Trump that's a. crime is it not yeah and and and it. should be met with immediate discipline. and and that's a matter of having people. that will follow through and Wade. through the bureaucratic process and and. exercise The Authority that they're. charged with doing right if you when you. join the military you swear to the. Constitution against all enemies foreign. domestic we should probably do something.

similar for any civilian employee of the. federal government that they swear to. defend the Constitution not swear. allegiance to a political leader of. course not. Constitution right but it's not a. constitutional republic if you know. unelected employees of the federal. government ignore the elected employees. yeah well that's something uh love it or. hated at Blackwater every contractor. that worked for us swore to defend the. Constitution the same oath they swore. when they joined the military or law. enforcement they swore it again in our.

presence as a reminder that we're here. to. serve so um I want to ask you about. spying uh on American citizens so we. know that it's widespread it's. accelerating data is being collected. about every single one of us and the. vector for a lot of that is the. phone so it's it's like super useful of. course um but it's also the main. vulnerability if you care about privacy. and freedom so you've created a phone. that allows people to to some extent to.

opt out of the current spying regime let. me let me back up to where I guess where. this started you know if you think about. after. 911 suddenly holy [ __ ] all these federal. agencies are waking up and how do we. prevent this kind of conspiracy and. attack against this again and so they. start looking at data but of course in. 911 we didn't have smartphones. but as smartphones become. available and the uh technology that.

goes around a smartphone because what is. a smartphone it's basically a highly. capable personal computer in your hand. yeah that's constantly linked to a. network yes and so as ad data and the. private sector always innovates much. faster than governments do and so as. Apple and Google mobile. services um start developing phones they. put ad ID and tracking information on. those phones why to to microt Target you.

to sell. advertising they they they gather and. collect micro information about you so. that they can sell Precision information. to advertisers who want to sell you. stuff can you give us a sense of what. that what that information is what what. do they know about you well an. advertising ID is a it's like a 25. digigit alpha numeric code that sits on. your phone and it enables to collect. where you go what you buy who you call.

and what you browse it even works with. the apps sitting on your phone which are. also built with a software developer kit. come that comes from Google and they. they pay you more to put the Google. hooks in so that those apps can also. turn on the microphone on your phone or. the camera or the GPS so that your phone. yes it's a computer computer but. effectively becomes a mobile microphone. collection listening device that's fits.

in your pocket or sits in your. nightstand and it collects anything and. everything about what you do and so it's. been it's almost been like a slow. boiling of a frog because. we as smartphones become common it. becomes very convenient and it's. wonderful and it becomes more and more. uh pervasive in our lives providing us. music and news and Communications and. and um pictures and videos of our.

family every bit of that data is. collected analyzed parsed and resold to. advertisers that's the five leading big. tech companies have a combined market. cap that's like the third or fourth. largest nation in the world off of that. surveillance capitalism model so as. smartphones have become available. it slow boiled all of us into a point of.

holy [ __ ] and I guess for me the oh [ __ ]. moment was after the 2020 election and. seeing the power that big Tech had to. sway that. election and to then coordinate to to. control. who um who could speak who could speak. on certain platforms and zering out. certain people and I actually had a tech. team together at the time doing a. forensics thing and in a rage phone call.

I said [ __ ] it we're going to build a. phone and we pivoted and that. team uh then started working and uh yeah. we we built a phone um as a as an answer. because we're never going to make big. Tech change by whining about it they way. too much money and way too much power we. have to provide a means for people. to communic at. freely securely and most importantly. that they can control their data I think.

it's inherently American that we accept. we we expect privacy As Americans if you. think about the Constitution first. amendment is free speech freedom of. religion freedom of assembly second we. know what that guarantees the first. what's the third amendment what's what. was most important for the founding. fathers privacy get get these damn. British troops out of my house of course. no quartering act cuz there was actually. British soldiers being put into people's.

houses privacy Fourth Amendment the. right to privacy in our in in the. searches of our personal data yes what. big Tech has created in surveillance. capitalism is more pervasive and more. intrusive than anything you could ever. possibly it's more it's more pervasive. than Marcus wolf of the stazzy or Bara. of the KGB of the nkvd could ever.

possibly imag anything that happens in. contemporary North Korea yes exactly and. we give it away and we give it away. freely and so people still close the. bathroom stall when you go into the. toilet you still close the shower. curtain we still do lots of things that. we expect to have a a privacy but yet. people with a regular phone put on their. nightstand and are surprised that the. microphone is listening I've had so many.

people I've talked to. about they said I was talking to my wife. about needing a new mattress in our. bedroom and the next day they're getting. advertising for mattresses which means. the camera or the phone was listening to. them in their bedroom with all the. follow-on conclusions to be drawn from. that yeah given what happens in healthy. bedrooms that's a I mean so what happens. to those recordings well we've been. doing a study following our device a.

Google mobile services phone any Android. running Google mobile services which is. all of them or an iPhone and about 3. a.m. we're seeing a spike of data. leaving the phone about 50 megabytes. that is basically that phone dialing. home to the Mother Ship exporting all of. your goings on all your pillow talk is. going to talk whatever right so. Zuckerberg paid $20 billion for WhatsApp.

why because every message call video. picture voice note everything that goes. through there they say well it's end end. encrypted yeah it's end to end until it. passes through their server where it's. sliced and diced and analyzed and used. to push used to sell advertising to that. customer if you're not paying for. something you're not the customer you. are the product so if you want to get.

well I think people people right now are. used to Mark Zuckerberg listening from. their nightstand every night because. that's effectively what what your phone. he like the creepiest person in world. history if he's listening to what's. going on in your bedroom because they're. able as big Tech to shape that message. that's that's the frightening thing. about the power of big Tech and their. ability to to influence what you watch. what you think about candidates if you. search something how they how they score.

those rankings it's uh it is shocking we. have an antitrust problem here in. America vastly worse than in the early. 19 late 1800s early 1900s with oil and. Railways this is not sugar trust this is. more. important yeah this is literally how we. communicate and interact with other. human beings in our lives how we. and and and share information about the. realities of Life of food of Medicine of.

vaccines of healthc care issues of of. Truth and so it's in especially in an. era of. AI it's scary stuff the average kid in. America by the time they reach the age. of 13 has had 72 million data points. collected on them by big. Tech so. so it's almost like uh that that much. collection allows digital.

Grooming by big Tech to to share and to. shape your preferences how you interact. ET including your sexual preferences I. mean if you're being honest here yeah. exactly considering that young people. are introduced to sexuality through. pornography yep yeah um given that. there's no privacy it's probably pretty. dumb to watch. porn yeah nothing's private right. so um what happens to all this data well.

now obviously that's it's used and. stored I mean if you it's it's the the. uh the bloom of data centers surrounding. all these Tech hubs around America. is horrific and all that data is being. collected and stored and and can I ask. you just a far a field question might. interested so given that those data. centers are some of the biggest users of. electricity they're like a steel plant. okay yeah massive electricity draw and.

using electricity is of course. destroying the planet and accelerating. climate. change why are the climate change. zombies defacing paintings in museums. and not protesting data. centers it's a I would say. they're if if they were coming after. data centers then they would be getting. a Non-Stop stream of of social media. messages of why they should be attacking. art instead of data well exactly but. like why why are the AI ghouls why is.

Mark Zuckerberg why are they not climate. criminals why am I a climate criminal. for having a wood stove in a Silverado. but but the people who run data centers. which literally draw more power than. with 100% back with 100% backup as well. right so I'm not against using energy. I'm Pro energy actually and cheap energy. but but by the current. rules they're criminals. so why does no one call them. criminals um because big Tech has.

shockingly uh complete control over how. that messaging is yes over our minds and. what we. think sorry sorry but that you brought. it right back to the point which is and. and so. now Congress including a lot of. Republicans in their. idiocy have not only extended fisa right. fisa started as the foreign intelligence. surveillance act 1977 is yeah supposed.

to be measuring monitoring how you. collect intelligence uh Communications. going to. foreigners now FIS is really all about. Americans um I guess we're treated as. foreigners by our own. government uh and and so the federal. agencies got sick of getting beat up. when they'd come before Congress for. millions of times. illegally accessing what was supposed to. be fisa. unauthorized Communications.

information and for. buying all this commercial data that's. that's collected and held and. disseminated by big Tech to facilitate. advertising and typing and measuring. where you go what you buy who you call. what you browse everything about you in. a way that any any previous intellig. Ence boss would have salivated. over so now the new fisa it's not an.

extension it's a massive enlargement. says that any federal agent for any. reason without probable cause or a. warrant can compel any company that. holds any of that personal data to turn. it. over. allowing a massive fishing Expedition on. anybody that's considered a an opponent. of that off the reservation federal. agent it's really disgusting really I if.

it's not a a um stampa tea party uh 1775. moment I don't know what is but it is. ultimately your government having cart. blanch to do a digital proctology exam. on you with no questions asked well. considering that these companies Hold. You Know audio of you having sex with. your wife video of you watching. pornography like stuff that you know. audio of you telling racial jokes or.

whatever like your most. intimate moments the ones that could be. used to Blackmail and destroy you doing. things you would not do in public and. shouldn't do in public like that's just. that's the ultimate power isn't. it yeah I guess um you either have to. not give a [ __ ] and fight anyway yeah or. try to live virtuously too helps that. always helps yep so how does your phone.

protect people against again this like I. said this uh this era started three and. a half years ago and we came at it from. a completely contrarian view yeah this. phone uh it's our Hardware made in. Indonesia at a Singaporean. facility um our operating system all our. code and we are solely focused fed on. data sovereignty that you control it's. pretty cool just that I am kind of.

impressed that you made Hardware you. didn't just build an app like you. actually because you have to control it. down to the root level of of the. hardware and the software so that our we. don't have an advertising ID and our. operating system blocks any any attempt. by any app to turn on your camera or. your Wi-Fi or your microphone or your. GPS or anything we don't allow any of. that leakage in fact we have a privacy.

Center this is called the unplugg this. is an unplugged phone and this is a. effectivity a firewall which prevents. apps from doing all the things they used. to doing on all the other phones so. you're in control of what of your data. goes out which is. effectively zero this is like a this is. like a safe comes in doesn't come out. so I'm just to bottom line it I'm. protected from what am I protected from.

if I use that here's the. thing the the uh if you're using apps. and some federal agency goes to that app. Pryor and says uh give me everything you. have on Tucker that he's been using on. that app there'll be nothing because. there's no data leaking from you from. your device to that to that app if um if. you call somebody we have our own secure. messenger for example you want to call. and make a secure call and you call me. it takes about 5 Seconds to connect.

because it's literally creating a. encrypted tunnel between you and me. generates a new encryption key every. call it's completely different so the. government hates that and there have. been all kinds of legal battles over. this question they don't want secure. communication between citizens because. all of a sudden they care about human. trafficking or something yes and their. their latest excuse. for this uh massive F enlargement was. drug trafficking drug trafficking right.

cuz they've been failing for 40 freaking. years at that well they just opened the. southern border to Fentanyl and human. trafficking so these exact same people. are suddenly really worried about human. trafficking and drugs yeah it's just. it's a it's a joke so we've. um we uh we produced 500 units fielded. them last fall we did a big data big. beta test and now we have 10,000 units. so people can order and and deliver and. look it's uh it is our effort to uh to. fight the power of what can't I do I.

mean I'll just confess that I use an. iPhone made by a company I actually kind. of hate and that hates my country and me. and I use it anyway because it's and we. figured there's a lot of people like you. that would want to digitally opt out of. the LIE of big Tech and so what you. can't do obviously we don't have the. Apple Store uh we don't have apple music. but you can use Spotify you can use um a. lot of the other streaming services on. here we just prevent them from. collecting your data as to what you're. listening to or or where you are when.

you do it what about pictures of course. you can take. pictures and you can share pictures you. can send pictures we have a lot of the. other privacy related apps whether it's. signal or threa or proton or telegram we. have nobody done this so everyone. complaints about this everyone who pays. any attention at all understands plus. the iPhone's incredibly expensive um um. but they have a hammer lock on your life. and so this seems like a pretty obvious.

other people have tried it before and. they they burn through a lot of money. and I don't think the timing is right. they're not flying coach to Dubai are. they we we we did this man you are Dutch. I love that like coach to. theie for ex this phone also has a kill. switch an. actual uh switch which separates the the. battery from the electronics you can't. shut your iPhone off oh I know it's. always listening it's always pinging. Towers it's always pinging Wi-Fi.

building a digital breadcrumb trail of. where you go and what you do this even. if I turn the iPhone off it's not off. correct this you turn that off it's off. because it physically separates battery. from Electronics it's just like pulling. the battery out of an old uh Nokia phone. so I'm sorry I interrupted you so this I. I love this of course it's incredibly. ambitious but also on some level it's. kind of obvious why haven't we had this. before so you said people have tried. they spent too much money and then I. interrupted you and they tried maybe. just with an app and just with an app.

doesn't work and and people have tried. to do it with a reskinned Google phone. we have this this phone is incapable of. running Google mobile services so you're. not going to get Google Maps we have a. way to navigate that works well but. again so many of the the fremium. approaches where they've been boiling. the Frog of the American of the people. of the. world um we provide them a digital. alternative to that where you are in. control of your first amendment rights. and your Fourth Amendment rights how how.

amen how hard is it to text people who. don't have that. phone um it's just we look it emits. electrons so ultimately you can see if. it's on a tower or not but we even. provide it with a with a Sim uh with a a. Sim provider a data. provider uh a network airtime provider. that um collects the minimum amount. basically all they need needed your ZIP. code of where you're buying it that's it. no but what I'm saying is if I am using. an unplugged phone and my wife has an. iPhone I can text her.

yes sure and she can even put unplugged. Messenger on her iPhone as well how much. more expensive is that than an iPhone. this is. $989 so it's cheaper about $500 cheaper. and it's comparable in speed storage. camera quality can you actually get one. yeah you can order it at uh unplug. uh we will look we're we're big. Believers we're big believer in your. audience I'm a art long Ardent fan and.

uh we think uh your fans are our people. and so we are happy to. compensate them and uh and you guys and. we want to we want to win in this. together and give people a digital. alternative to Big Tech owning their. lives man I I so if I mean it's not a. threat to Apple right now but if if. there's big up it could be so what how. do you expect them to try and stifle. competition it's Monopoly sure they want. to retain Monopoly status look if you.

search for if you do a Google search for. unplugged phone or things like that they. tend to stack every negative article. possible written about it first oh there. have been bad pieces written of course. of course of course the the left will. always uh come after me and and hate on. me for anything thing is is it a racist. phone the left used to be about free. speech and now they're really about kind. of State control but um does the phone. deny the election in 2020.

just I would argue that um the the phone. cares about your first and Fourth. Amendment rights and and and since um. the erosion of that privacy I just want. to encourage everyone to use cash yet as. well don't don't go to these you know. anyone that says that goes to these. these woke coffee shops and they say we. don't accept cash anymore. look on the front of a dollar bill it. says this note is legal tender for all. debts public and private no one has the.

ability to deny you using cash so leave. them the right change on the table and. tell them to have a nice day they cannot. make you pay with a credit card that's. that is that is actually insurrectionist. if these businesses are denying you the. ability to use legal tender of the. United States government I I had never. thought of that has anyone tried that oh. yeah I make an issue of it all the time. to my kids. um uh embarrassment but yeah I'm a big. ad cash is freedom with the amount of.

data that is collected on you. everywhere you want to buy gas buy gas. pay cash whatever but the the what what. what we see in. China where they really don't accept. cash anymore and it should become the. ultimate surveillance State that's where. we're heading unless Free People unite. and resist that kind of totalitarian. impulse of big government and big Tech. working together in China they you have.

to pay with a with a WeChat app so you. do your banking through that you acquire. tickets for a bus an airplane a train. through that you pay road tolls through. that everything is through this app. controlled by the state and so before. they even go to a central bank digital. currency they literally have you by the. s and they can zerial at that point. instantly correct and so we did this as.

because for free people to be able to. live in a free Society they have to. communicate they have to be able to hold. and store data um and and and be able to. gather that data without someone else. filtering it through an App Store that. the bad guys control that the that the. big government guys. control um you know the the where do you. get cat. from a bank so do you it sounds like a. stupid question but there seem to be.

fewer. ATMs I don't think that's my imagination. in fact it's not sure yeah they don't. want you to use cash there's a d. emphasis on cash right so if cash equals. freedom I could not agree with you more. and there's something kind of old school. and cool about it anyway um but I still. remember my dad having $500. bills yeah why don't we have those. anymore we on drugs. really yeah that would be a great thing. for the next president of the United. States what does that mean War on Drugs. so they just they stopped was a war on.

cash to to cut out illegal activity that. was paid for in cash William McKinley is. on the $500 bill I think they should. bring it back and put Donald J Trump on. it can you imagine the heads exploding. yeah that'd be pretty wild you know so. much of this explosion of government. Perpetual Wars and Perpetual govern. stupidity comes back to very unsound. money and when we went off the gold. standard when Nixon did how was it done.

was it a vote through Congress no was it. debated it was an executive order which. means you can go back on with executive. order as well where are you on gold I'm. very Pro gold it is for Millenia been a. store of value and I'd. say uh digital blockchain currencies. also interesting it's hard look anything. is of value if someone recognizes it as.

a medium of exchange right right I mean. there was a there was a tulip inflation. in the Netherlands in like 500 years ago. yes but tulips were currency tulip bulbs. um so lots of things can become if if. things currency ever created if things. get really. scary ammunition will be currency yes. always has been yes I I I've had that. thought personally you you're St up I.

mean it's should dogs I have a lot of. dogs too um so I feel like dogs will be. more valuable at some point um but uh so. you so are you a gold buyer without. getting too specific about it some yeah. but I. mean for heaven sakes started a company. which took on not one but two multi-. trillion dollar. companies because you know that was a. dumb crazy idea you know three and a. half years ago so that's that's I've. been investing in this capability for. people to communicate securely and.

freely and I hope it works what are the. and it will never be a public company. we've taken no institutional money it. will be a private company not subject to. the SEC and all the other nonsense it's. not even an it's not even a American. registered company because I didn't want. the US government to be able to shut it. down yeah it's interesting again we. haven't done uh had a conversation. really about your personal story which. is one of the most amazing personal. stories of anyone I've ever met but um.

among the many twists and turns and. ironies of your life is that someone as. patriotic as you was basically at one. point forced to flee to a foreign. country well I didn't flee I went there. for a job opportunity but I'd been uh. attacked. unbelievably oh I remember talking about. putting you in jail I remember that. every Federal agency in the world was. coming after us and I paid paid about. $2.5 million a month for 2 years. straight in legal fees I paid the.

highest per capita fine in State. Department history it was the only. Federal agency that actually stuck us. with something because we had no means. to contest it because they at that point. we were working for the state department. doing Diplomatic Security protecting. Americans something we did more than a. 100,000. times with no state department or Us. official ever killed or injured on our. watch. and sometimes the state department would. be demanding I need 50 more men here I. need 30 more men there go immediately.

but another part of the state department. the licensing department of the. directorate of Defense trade controls. moving at the speed of p uh at the speed. of Peace. time would be slow rolling on the. licenses the export license for like. body armor or helmets right or guns used. by our people working for the state. department and yeah I'm not going to. send a guy naked to a war zone so we'd. send stuff to do that mission for the. state department in Iraq or Afghanistan. or whatever and so yeah that was what.

they had us over the barrel so they. finded me $42 million for that did you. pay had. to yeah Hillary Clinton why didn't she. like you I don't know didn't like your. Vibe I guess not that so. much she doesn't fly coach um once again. where did where do people watching get. that so I've been very active in the. media but they can go to unplugged. comom Tucker simp very active in the.

media in other words you're out there. talking about this yeah I'm for for lack. of a better spokesman I'm kind of it for. now but we're we're looking for more if. you'd like to be. it um but yeah no people can order and. they'll get it uh within uh 36 hours. usually how hard is it to operate it's. very simple look so it's it's based on. the Android kernel so any body any of. the apps built for Android almost 95% of. them work on on this phone but they look. a little different because they're not.

blasting all the personal ads at you. right for using the app so again it's a. way for people to be in the world. digitally but not of the world and not. have all your stuff collected stored and. disseminated to all kinds of people that. hate. you oh yeah and then it's available of. course to the US government which and. and another important feature I think. you appreciate on our messenger we even. have a dump feature so if you're using. unplugged messenger and someone comes uh. and says uh Tucker give me your phone.

I'm here to inspect it you say sure. officer and you unlock it with a certain. code when you hand it to him it's a. brick it's a paper weight because it. wipes it's an auto dump feature which. wipes the messages or it can even dump. the entire phone dump as in zero it out. hard factory reset. unrecoverable Fu seriously yep so you're. traveling through a foreign airport. which is where the in our airports this. has happened yeah and you can yep erase. the phone instantly so one of the.

reasons that I I really passionately. dislike uh Apple and Google is because. they'll take your Communications and. give them to the government without. telling you yes in fact out of this fisa. bill just passed they're not even. allowed to tell. you that your stuff has been accessed by. this random fed agency or whatever so. it's it's just a it is a big brother. expansion bill is what that was so and. this I mean luck or timing or I don't.

know anticipating where the problem is. going to be started this journey three. years ago we're now here it's not it's. not hypothetical anymore these are. available and uh we've just shipped uh. 3500 of them and there's a few see this. in civil suits too not that I'm speaking. from experience but um you know um the. people who oppose you can wind up with. all your text messages and then it's a. it's a short trip from there to say the. New York Times exactly um and a text.

without a context is a pretext for. trouble oh I love that a text without a. context is a pretext for trouble yeah. luckily in my case I wasn't really doing. anything wrong other than using naughty. language but um all the better to have a. burn time on all those messages so it's. not looked at a year or five years later. some completely I agree with that. because right and so and again nothing. is STO it's it's either on your device. if you send me a message it's on this. device or your device and we can set a.

burn time where it's gone unrecoverable. anytime fed can never come to you and. say as the owner and spokesman for. unplug we want the text messages for. someone so we got nothing man we store. nothing it's stored on your device or. this device and you can apple if I use. iMessage which I do correct and you can. set a time on this where it disappears. to be clear so if I'm this is my grubby. iPhone if I'm but if I'm if I'm texting.

on. iMessage and um they're storing all of. it yeah I got 59 text messages while we. were talking this. morning that's why you're so slow to. respond in text text you're. deled well it's also my birthday so lots. of people are texting me but anyway the. point is and I don't have any. unauthorized birthday messages but. um but that's a lot I mean people. conduct their all to speak for myself I. conduct my life through text message.

exactly Apple has all of that for all. eternity and they will happily give that. to the government without question and. now they're compelled to turn it over. without even a. warrant or probable cause so again if. people are sick of that so users of. unplugged are protected for that. invulnerable there's no that if using. unplugged message if you send a regular. text on. unplugged it it's going to pass through. a phone carrier right they'll have that. message but if you send a message on. unplugged messenger yeah.

gone you can set a burn time on it and. it's gone and unrecoverable not stored. by us or anybody else well that seems. like freedom to. me I will always choose Freedom amen and. fight like crazy for it so let me just. end this with um kind of an apology for. interrupting you in the middle of one of. the most interesting things you were. saying so I said name three places that. Americans are not paying attention to. since you are I don't want to violate.

your privacy by saying where you are but. I just happen to know that you're like. you're in places I can't even find them. on a map and I'm pretty good at. geography so I think you are the person. to ask what are three places that we're. not paying attention to that we ought to. be and the I interrupted you after the. first one because it was so interesting. and you said Mexico Mexico fentel the. CCP very much promoting so amlo is a. super socialist president there now yeah. there's a even worse leftist female. about to take over and abs leftist.

female I love how you describe her she's. a she's very much a a Marxist Protege oh. she is no she's a leftist female for. sure um with active programs by the CCP. to support the most leftist candidates. there uh in Mexico that's a problem. um the it's become more and more of a. narco state with with cartels having. very significant influence if not. control locally or regionally throughout.

the throughout the country. um and that's literally our Southern. border and and and the amlo government. um. actively promoting um and cooperating. with that kind of CCP. nonsense positive note just a a. right-wing guy elected in Panama who. says he's going to shut the Darian gap. which is the area that moves all kinds. of people.

now um You you asked for three I I might. give you a couple more than three if you. got please do um the active spend of NOS. that the US government funds which. enables Mass migration into Latin. America to walk North to invade across. our Southern border is. massive and disgusting and illegal and. wrong I was just I remember uh three. months ago I was contacted by an NGO in.

Haiti asking if I could organize an. aircraft to fly from Port of Prince to. Managua daily I said why on Earth would. you want to do that they said well can. Haitians can fly to Nicaragua Visa free. I said ah I know why it's to facilitate. Haitians coming to Nicaragua and then. walking North to facilitate illegal. migration from there haian shortage here. I don't think so no and there is a.

um a massive network of those Nos and. some of those guys are making the the. the CEOs of these things are making a. million dollars a year taking US. taxpayer money facilitating the maneuver. entrance uh of illegal migrants in the. United States funded by the US taxpayers. it's disgusting and if Republicans. actually the power of the purse this. needs to stop and the fact that they. don't means we we have a uni party. problem so we probably need a melee type.

solution of a complete change in parties. to to fix. this but you do sort of Wonder since. there's no economic justification for. this level millions of uneducated people. from the poorest countries of the world. coming to your country there's no. especially with the AI like there are no. jobs for these people they're just but. just the fact that the Democrats were. actively seeking to register them as. voters and to make it possible to vote. you know exactly what they're doing. they're trying to stack the deck but I. mean you've been around Wars your whole. life like you tell me if you've got the.

mass movement of young military age. males into a country some of them with. prison records like what are you looking. at here yeah like does that make you. nervous at all sure but I also. know. um um Canon fod doesn't do very well. against a sophisticated capability. yeah and and the fact is the people that. actually did the fighting and the dying. and the hard combat uh in the last 20.

years they don't agree to that kind of. nonsense because they've laid their. lives and their brothers and their. health on the line for America for a. long time and they're not going to sit. quietly about that nonsense but I mean. so but there's already an effort in the. Congress to make illegal aliens citizens. if they serve in the US Military. I'm not opposed to a longer term. Legionnaire type program if someone.

comes here and actually serves and with. obviously very very strict performance. guidelines I we not not don't hire a guy. to be a truck driver in the in the Army. and get citizenship no but um I'm not so. opposed to that but but all the other. stuff they want to do around voting and. driver's licenses and all that stuff. there's a lot of actions that the next. Administration could take to make it. very difficult for those illegals to. remain here by Deb Banking and. deplatforming them what the left has.

been doing to people like us for the. last 20 years to make that difficult. okay so Latin America big problem in. Guyana country most people haven't heard. about other than where Jim Jones served. Kool-Aid uh made the largest energy. Discovery in the last in this hemisphere. in the last 50 years so it's enormous. and Venezuela has been um. now declared that 70% of guyana's. territory is theirs uh dusting off a 130. year old Border.

dispute and I think you're going to see. Venezuela Annex or sees that uh with. largely impunity uh in the coming uh. months or years certainly depend if the. if the Democrat Administration continues. they'll take it because there's no. consequences for it and so you're really. seeing a. a complete collapse a eraser of the. Monroe Doctrine this idea that what. happens in the western hemisphere is.

America's business and not the business. of Russia and. China. um the collapse of credibility of France. and of the United States in Africa is. now uh really accelerating the the Jihad. problem that was persistent in Mali and. Burkina Faso in ner and why do these. countries matter huge gold huge uranium. other minerals there and now Chad.

Sudan um the US had two big bases in nir. and they were just pushed out cost a. billion plus easily uh big air bases. drone bases that were trying to do CT. support all across Africa pushed out by. a collapse of. credibility um by the US by the the. French and the Russians have pushed in. and the Russians are using a a Vagner. capability a a hybrid private military.

company type capability to enable the. expansion of military cap capability in. those countries well at the same time a. voracious appetite for gold and other. minerals uranium of high value there and. so you're seeing to me it's a it's a. resort it's a it's a reversion to the. norm of what you saw in the 1600s I was. just thinking that exact same thing as. the dollar. declines of course gold becomes more. important yes gold and and uranium and.

actual green energy that's right which. uh uh so there's nothing really that new. in Warfare just different um maybe a. little bit of different Tech that. changes changes how things are done but. how Nations interact with each other I. think you'll see a a return to. privateers and to a lot more private. sector because our big bloated. superstate federal government government. has proven well at least now for the. last 30 years it's not very good at no. at putting the fires out civiliz. managing the conflict doesn't work.

um clearing the decks uh and and and. putting putting a turn again on some of. these things as. necessary all last question do it does. seem like civilizations in retreat in a. lot of places you know. order um free movement you know. relatively open market markets civility. self-restraint you know just all the. sort of Hallmark Hallmarks of an open uh. Society of like Western Civilization.

they all seem to be in Decline do you. see that and or are you worried about it. yeah look civilization e and flow um and. I look for pockets of. normaly of however crazy things get. people still figure out how to uh how to. get on with it and Carry On and uh. there's certainly pockets within Europe. where they still do that there's. Pockets um in parts of the Middle East. uh there's even some pockets in South.

Africa that I would consider islands of. normaly uh and in Latin America as well. I again I come back to melee what a. spectacular man who just took on his. entire political establishment and said. AA out right so I um I am I I'm still. drawn I recommend the book a lot it's. called to DARE and to conquer. and a friend gave it to me years ago and. it's a it's a history of Special. Operations throughout history all the. way from Alexander the Great and his men.

that climbed sagian Rock and to to the. present of a few picked men and women. very capable Warriors that that flew in. the face of unsurmountable odds and made. it happen in change world history so I. think there's a there's a lot of Hope in. that and um big government is really. dumb and quite plotting and um I know I. know folks that have worked in Google. and apple and they and they pull their. hair out at how innan and stupid a lot. of those things are and so I view them.

probably as dumb as the US was in. Afghanistan and an opponent that can be. defeated with Wy creative very. focused um and very my dad always told. me persistence and determination and um. I try to live by that and uh my I I come. back to um my favorite quote from. Churchill and he said um he was speaking. before the the Canadian Parliament a. year after the Battle of Britain said he. said uh a year ago her Hitler said he.

would ring the neck of the British. people like a chicken in six weeks and I. stand before you a year later and I say. some chicken some. neck Eric Prince thank you thanks Tucker.