Col. Doug Macgregor: Mexican Cartels’ Advanced Weaponry, and Why They’re a Bigger Threat Than Russia

It feels like we're on the. brink of something. really. catastrophic. I kind of can't shake that feeling. And by catastrophic, I mean some. kind of global war. Hope that's not true. But let's just start with what. just happened, which is a. drone attack on Moscow by the. Ukrainians that killed a number of. Russians in Moscow. Who did that, why, and what. are its effects?

Well, that's that's an important. question. I think the Russians were. disappointed in us Because.

they detected were sincere. in terms of wanting to end this. conflict. Trump is sincere. I mean, that's true. But they don't understand why he. does not act to remove this regime, remove this man Zelensky and put a. stop to it. There's this constant drumbeat about. a ceasefire. Well, the Russians are highly. organized and disciplined. They can stop whenever it. makes sense to do so. The Ukrainians are not in the same. category. They seem to be a rogue organization. now. We've got, what, 200 ,000.

of them here in the United States, and I don't know how many thousands. of them. are working for the SBU, the. Ukrainian secret police, that are now running around. threatening everyone that has. criticized Ukraine or. opposed support. for Ukraine. And Alex Jones Stafford was just. murdered two days ago, who was. on some list put. together by the Ukrainian government. or its supporters of critics. He was murdered outside of his. house. I mean, I don't think it's. crazy to think, given the number of. assassinations they've pulled off or. attempted, that he was killed by.

them. You think that's possible? Well, I would be very worried about. our president. I think the president is very much. at risk and these people seem to. know no sense. of limitation. They're capable of anything. So I hope the Secret Service is on. its toes. I'm sure Cash Patel is well aware of. this in the FBI. I just don't have any good feelings. right now about the Ukrainians. I think they're done, they're. finished, they've lost the war. So all of these are sort of. acts of vengeance, If you.

will, last. resort. Hurl whatever you have. as deep as you can into Russia and. just kill, murder, maim as many. Russians as possible. But to what end? Well, to harm Russians and then try. to create the illusion that there is. some hope for them, that they. can somehow or another mobilize more. manpower and put more. forces into the field. They can't. They're really scraping the bottom. of the.

going. The Russians have the initiative, strategic initiative. This war is. effectively at an end as far as. they're concerned in terms of having. won it. They now have to make some. decisions. So you have to put yourself not so. much in the place of Zelensky. He's irrelevant. The Russians are not surprised by. what he's done. I think they're surprised that we. haven't intervened to try and stop. it. That's what I think they're. surprised about. So what they want now, the Russians, is an end to this nonsense.

They have several options. They now have concentrations of. forces in the. northeastern part of Ukraine and. down in the southeastern part. They can move at will at any time. They have enough force they can. cross in Kherson. They can take Odessa. They can move forward and straight. into Kiev. Whatever they do, they have to ask. themselves, how far do we want. to go to guarantee our. security as Russians? and they have never really wanted to.

go very far. That's never been the intent, but. over time they've been pushed more. and more and more to secure. more territory to protect. themselves. This latest act is probably. convincing Russians that. they should go straight to the. Dnieper River, cross into. Kiev, root out this regime, root in branch, cross down south. and take Odessa, and turn. rump Ukraine into a landlocked. country. I'm sure there are people. who are arguing for that. There are other Russians who are.

saying the hell with this. Let's just crush Ukraine once. and for all. This is a permanent cancer. It's not going to go away. People from the West are always. going to try and go in and incite. them. So let's march to the Romanian and. Polish borders, right to Moldova. and be done with this. In the middle of this sits President. Putin. And President Putin is nothing if. not a very judicious. person. He's a very thoughtful. person. This is someone who does not act. impulsively. I'm sure you saw that.

I have. Everything is calculated. So he's going to sit there and say, what do I want to do? What makes the most sense for. Russia? Set aside the emotion. And he also knows President. Trump. And he says, President Trump. wants an end to this. So do I. How do I nudge President. Trump and say, help us? We want to end this just as much as. you do. Help us a little bit. Can't you? rid us of this man Zelensky. and this little MI6.

CIA -supported. cabal that surrounds him. Can't you help us with this? But on the other hand, he's looking. at his people, and they're saying, don't depend on anything the West. promises. Don't believe anything the West. says. So march to the Neapur, cross. the river, end this once and for. all. This is the decision point. It's a strategic inflection point in. the history of Europe. because you now have a Russian. leader with the power, with the. capability to do anything he wants. But this is a Russian who doesn't.

want to march west. He doesn't want to rule Ukrainians. He's not a fool. He knows those people don't want to. be ruled by Russians. So it's a difficult position, but he. has to end it. And there's the other dangers. Who knows what comes. next? They killed this Russian general. who had a very prominent role, and his name escapes me right now, but he was killed recently. He had a very prominent role in. identifying the attempts by the. Ukrainians to build a dirty bomb and.

also to launch attacks on the. nuclear power plants. He knows there are people over there. capable of that kind of lunacy. So that also has to figure into. his calculus. It's got to be one of the most evil. governments in the world. It is. well, look at what they've. done to their own people. I mean, how many of these Ukrainians. have died needlessly? The handwriting was on the wall two. years ago. Why would you drag this thing out? And Putin has not wanted to. drag it out, but he has also not.

wanted to give people in. the West the impression that he's. interested in doing anything. more than removing the Ukrainian. menace. In other words, he's not interested. in conquest, doesn't wanna march. West. I mean, how many times can he. and Lavrov say this nonsense and. shut up and Applebaum. and the rest of these uh... why isn't an apple bomb crazy. Have any effect on anything. I mean, this is like one of the. dumbest people in the United States. I don't understand. she's also married to the Polish. foreign minister. And right now, the latest poll says.

that 86 percent of the Polish. population opposes. any Polish participation in a. war against Russia. So, and even Tusk has said, if you. think we're joining some sort of. contingent to go into Western. Ukraine, forget it, we're not. going. So I think this whole facade is. crumbling. Is there any European population, so. there are many European leaders who. have suggested, some have said out. loud, others have hinted, that. they're going to send troops to. fight Putin? It's absurd. Is there any European.

population that wants that? No. Not a chance. I mean, the British are probably the. furthest from Russia. and they all know what their. army consists of today. It's a bad facsimile. of what was there 200 years ago. It goes back to Bismarck's. famous remark in 1879. He was asked by a British. journalist, what would you do if the. British army landed on the North. German coast? He said, well, I'd have it arrested.

And everyone was upset, but. he was right. The British Army was about the size. that it is now. And the German Army at that point. numbered what? Four, 600 ,000 with. a capacity to mobilize millions. So this is all nonsense. The same thing is nonsensical in. France. All my friends in the French. military, and I've got several, have. told me, Douglas, this is absurd. The only thing the French Army is. prepared for is to go on safari in. Africa. And they're pulling out of there?

And of course they're pulling out. This is a waste of time, money, and. resources, all of it. The issue for Donald Trump. is as follows. And I think this is what's most. important for him to keep in mind. And his instincts are good. If he follows his instincts, he'll. be fine. He needs to stop listening. to the people around him. Number one, any war. that breaks out today involving. the United States and Russia, and whether or not Russia, we. want it to be involved, Russia is. involved in the Middle East. Russia's involved in Eastern Europe.

Whatever happens, the war will. expand. We will end up with multiple enemies. arrayed against us. China, bricks in. general, and certainly Iran. and other states in the Middle East. So the first thing is all. wars will expand. So don't start one under any. circumstances. It will expand out of control. The second thing is he's going to. discover the hard way that we are. grossly overstretched. and overextended. The American military establishment.

is in no position to fight any. kind of long war. Remember we used to talk about the. long war that we were supposed to. fight? That was all nonsense. If you look at all of the. simulations that involve us against. Iran or us against any number of. great powers, they all end. in two weeks. Why does the war end in two weeks? Because in two weeks, we've. exhausted everything that we've got. There's no more ammunition. There are no more missiles, no more. rockets.

I would say in truth right now, it's. closer to one week, maybe 10. days. And we don't have this. scientific industrial base with. manufacturing capability that is. humming along 24 hours a day, seven. days a week. We can't match Russia, the. nation of what, 140 million? Imagine that economic base. producing in China. China is in a position today that we. were in during World War II and in. the aftermath. We were the productivity giant. across the world.

That's China. So you can't go to war with these. people. You'll be buried by them. with conventional weapons and. ammunition. And anyone who thinks a. nuclear exchange makes sense. deserves to be shipped off to. the nearest asylum. And I think Trump understands that. So those first two things. anything that we do expands out. of control. Secondly, we're overstretched, overextended. Our forces are tired, they're very. exhausted. The naval forces. in particular have a lot of.

problems, not just them, but. they're the ones that are sitting. out there on the front line right. now. And then on top of that, you have. the Air Force. And the Air Force cannot field. thousands and thousands of fighters. and bombers. We lost 18 ,000 bombers. trying to penetrate. German air defenses during World War. II, we and the Royal Air Force, 18 ,000 bombers. Air defenses today in Iran. are substantial and. they are capable.

This is the S -400. They are layered with multiple kinds. of missiles over a vast area. and radars. We are going to lose aircraft. No one knows how many because we've. never fought our way through it. But we don't have thousands. to lose. So, in a. nutrition setting... We can't win. And unfortunately, when you're 6. ,000 miles away from home, it's attrition. You can't replace rapidly. You can't reload rapidly. You can't resupply rapidly, logistically as a disaster.

Then finally, you see what's. happened in the market recently, dropped 900 points. What do you think happens if there's. a war in the Middle East or in. Eastern Europe? It'll just intensify the sell. -off. Everything tanks. All confidence will be lost. No one in their right mind at this. point should be talking about a war. We should be talking about. disengagement. And Zelensky, frankly, the way he. was treated, I think President. Trump was far too gentle.

I'm surprised that two giant. secret service agents. did not come in, pick him up, and. remove him from the office. But the way he handled Zelensky. is the way he's got to handle. Netanyahu, because if he. doesn't, Netanyahu will. drag him into the abyss. because he wants this war. in the Middle East come hell or high. water, and it's not in their. interest. What war? The war with Iran, the war with. everybody. I mean, you've seen these settings.

where Netanyahu sits at the. table and he's got everybody around. him in his cabinet, and he says, this is our opportunity to settle. with everyone. We're fighting on five fronts. No, we're fighting on seven fronts, and he starts ticking off, you know, everyone from the hoodies. to. the militias in Iraq and Syria. and now Iran. and so forth. If you look at the map today, he's trying to occupy Syria. all the way up to the edge of. Damascus.

And Erdogan, who is a very clever. but slippery character, has already. said, forget it, we're not gonna. tolerate that in southern Syria. So he's pushing the. envelope to the very edge. In Damascus, there are three great. Islamic cities in the region. One is Cairo. The other is Jerusalem and then. Damascus. They're not going to surrender. Damascus to the Israelis. So whatever happens, the Turks. will eventually become involved. They'll march in. So, I mean, that creates a.

kind of structural problem because. Turkey is a member of NATO. I don't think so. Because I don't think, I don't think. NATO matters. Maybe right. I don't think it has for a long. time. Well, it matters in. a material sense, we just use the. name NATO to. wage a war against Russia for three. years that we lost, but that would be the. end of NATO, right? Well, what we're talking about will. end everything that we're accustomed. to, the rules -based order, which just means our.

global hegemony in military and. economic terms. Everyone in BRICS is now. being forced together. We're forcing cohesion on BRICS. as an alternative to our financial. system, which we use to. bully everybody. So that's all that BRICS is about, but now BRICS is going to become. increasingly militarized because. we're seen as this rogue state. that is willing to put everything at. risk in order to retain its position. of dominance. That's catastrophic for us.

We don't wanna go down that road. And that's why I think most of us. voted for President Trump. We saw him as someone who would say. no and diverge from that path. But we don't know right now. It's not clear. He has not made it clear what he. wants. He has said he wants a settlement. with Russia. He wants normalization. with Russia. Okay, if you really want that, you've got to act in a way that. demonstrates conclusively that you. support that. That means end.

all the military aid right now. to the Ukrainians. Period. Done. Number two, get all of the Americans. out of Ukraine immediately. Everybody. Intelligence, civilians, contractors, I mean, this has been. another contracting bonanza. in Ukraine. Just a sec -. Just as Afghanistan was. In Iraq. In that. So the people who built this country. built it because they wanted. freedom. One word, freedom. They wanted freedom from oppressors. who forced them to buy overpriced. tea, then blockaded them when. they tried to dump it into the.

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everyone's aware of this, it's true, a large percentage of these weapons. onto international arms markets. and they've wound up with some of. the worst people in the world and. destabilized the world. But there's been no attempt by. any agency in the US government that. I'm aware of. to keep track of where they are. And moreover, the CIA has. lied about. that. Well, Tucker, let's face it, the CIA. is a black hole. We don't really know what goes into.

it, and we're not really sure what. comes out of it, other than. destruction. Wherever the CIA dabbles and. moves in, we end up. with subversion, revolution, disintegration. That's everything we touch, literally. That's why it was such. a stroke of genius to get rid of. USAID. USAID was helping to fund all the. nonsense along with - National. Endowment for Democracy. Thank God for those things. But I, you know, I don't. know about the gentleman, Radcliffe,

who is in charge of the CIA. I don't know what his march orders. are. But we have a very serious problem. over there. This has been operating. for a very long time. in isolation from any accountability. and any real oversight. So that needs to be stripped. down to the bare bolts and find out. what's really happening over there. Everyone talks about the Epstein. files and all these kinds of things. I'm sure it would be nice to know. the truth about all of that, but. there's much worse going on in the. CIA globally, and we.

need to put a stop to it. But these are actions that we have. to take not just for ourselves, but to demonstrate to the rest of. the world that we're serious. We want an end to these conflicts. We're not interested in waging war. in everybody else's country. We're not interested in planting. new governments that are puppet. regimes in other people's. countries. That's what it's about. That's what we've got to do. If we don't do that, we're going. to eventually be dragged into a.

confrontation with a substantial. portion of the world. and then we don't prevail. Of course not. Of course not. But keep in mind, what about the. American people? There's nobody here. We walk outside, find. anybody who says, well, you know, there's a train leaving, you know, for Ukraine. You can get all your equipment, draw. it right there in the train station, get on and go and fight in Ukraine. See how many people show up. Oh, well, why don't we bomb. Iran? Would you like to be part of.

the strike package? We have a seat for you on a B2 and. you can watch the bombs go off. Would you like to do that? Nobody wants to do that. There's no interest in this country. and any of that crap. But people in this country are damn. well interested in what's happening. on the Mexican border and I just. spent three days down there. And they're damn well interested in. what's happening in Mexico because. they know that that is. a cesspool of barbarism, savagery, criminality. And that's our existential. threat. Not China, not Russia,

not Iran, not anywhere. We can manage those things. President Trump can manage those. things. This thing down on the Mexican. border is. really at a boiling point. We need to understand that. Tell me, what does that mean? Well, what it means is that the. cartels run everything. I mean, we hear about this president. shine bomb in Mexico, forget it. She controls what, 40 square. kilometers in Mexico City. This whole thing is an organized. crime state. Everyone in Mexico knows the truth.

If you go to Mexico City, my oldest. son was just down there for a month. and he speaks very fluent Spanish. and he was talking to lots of people. and he loved the place, loved Mexico. City, loves Mexicans. But they'll tell you flat out, well, don't go there and don't go here and. don't go there and don't ride in. this cab and don't take this. automobile. Don't go to that airport. Everybody knows the truth. Everybody knows who operates what, who controls what. And if you navigate through this.

maze, of invested power of. the cartels, you can survive. But if you accidentally cross into. their territory and are seen. as a potential problem. in any way, shape or form, you're. dead. But at the same time, you've got. whole families of. these cartels, people that work for. them that are being treated for. dental needs, medical. problems, whatever it else. I mean, you join the cartel, you get. free healthcare.

You get all of this. It's bizarre, but it's. real. And you pointed out the weapons. going down there are serious. I was down there and we talked to. several people who were border. patrolmen, also talked to some Texas. Guard people and said, we just go. 100 yards on. the other side into Mexico and. behind the ridge line over there, you'll see all the weapons, all the. RPGs, the Javelin. missile systems. that have found their way to Mexico. Javelin missile system? Oh yeah, yeah, we've got it.

They've got those things over there. From Ukraine. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure. Well, we sent over, I. don't know how many, what, a. thousand of them? And several hundred were captured by. the Russians. And then I'm sure several were sold. on the black market. I mean, about 50 % of everything. that showed up there ended up. somewhere that didn't belong. It's just one huge. corrupt industry in Ukraine. And the longer we feed it cash, the worse it will get. So you've got a starved of cash,

Starved of Amination. and end it. Ukrainian people will ultimately. thank you for it. They've had enough. I don't care what various. people say. They're tired of it. What do you think the actual losses. are on both sides in that war? I think the Russians have lost, well, when they say Russians, let's. put it this way, the Russians, 90 to. 100 ,000 dead. They may have lost another 10 to. 20 ,000 non -Russians. from within the. military establishment, and that's.

one of the great achievements, by. the way, of President Putin, has been to weld this force together. that includes large numbers of. Muslim Turks who are. extremely competent fighters, very. tough. in fact. The Chechen fighters are. cleaning out Kursk right now, Kursk. Oblast, because the Ukrainians made. a mistake. They hurled large numbers of. drones down into Chechnya and. killed a number of people, and that. just lit a fuse that is. now exploding. Who'd wanna fight with Chechnya?

I certainly don't. No normal man wants to fight the. Trump experience. Right. I mean, there's two wars. I mean, not an expert, but I sort of. followed it in the news. Maybe not want to mess. with the Chechens at all. never ever absolutely. not and there's there's. a good healthy relationship right. now between the muslims and the. orthodox christians. Yes, I've noticed. It's a very positive thing. He's done that very well. There's a lot to be learned from. that. I think we could do something. similar in some respects, but having. said that, the problem is right now,

100 ,000 plus 10 to 20. ,000 of the others, that's. about it. But on the Ukrainian side, I can certainly account through the. various sources I trust for 1 .2. million dead Ukrainian soldiers. Those 10 to 1. Those out there. Oh, easily. And that's because over the last. year... Well, that is just. shocking. Yeah, but over the last year, it's. grown. In other words, the losses. have just tripled.

and quadrupled every day. You know, you can watch people. like Larry Johnson and Scott Ritter. and others. They all have different numbers and. different sources, but they all. agree. 1 .2 million is about right. There are some who think 1 .5. million is closer. And what happens at the end. of war? In a country of under 50 million, so about 25 million in the country. now, I think, is. there's nothing left. That's why the notion that.

they can build anything now is. ridiculous. And how many millions. are overseas? What, 15 to 20 million have left the. country? There are 2 million -plus Ukrainians. in Russia and probably. 15 -plus million in. the West. And most of them have made it clear. they have no intention of ever going. back. So this is killed, for all intents and purposes, for the foreseeable future, the. Ukrainian nation. But these things happen at the end. of wars. Most of the Germans.

killed in the military. towards the end of the Second World. War were killed in the last nine. months. Max Hastings wrote a book about it. I can't remember the exact title. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't a. bad illustration. of what was going on. When armies are retreating. and they've lost their air and. missile defense, they've lost their. logistics, in other words, units are breaking down because. They can't feed themselves. They can't protect themselves.

So it becomes not immediately every. man for himself, but the. units try to fight their way through. to get back home. And that's what the Ukrainians have. done. But as they're doing that, the problem today is with all of. these unmanned systems and. the surveillance that the Russians. have, they can be killed in. great numbers as they're running. away, as they're leaving. And they're not running away because. they're cowards. Nobody will tell you the Ukrainians. are cowards. It's absolutely. unacceptable, these are very brave, courageous people, just like the. Russians, but.

they have no chance. And so they're being driven in. front of the advancing Russians. And people say, well, why are the. Russians advancing so slowly? Because from the very beginning, Putin has not wanted to kill. large numbers of Orthodox. Christian Slavs. It's not been his aim. Yeah, was definitely the aim of the. West. Oh my, look at these, look. at these biolabs. Isn't that pretty clear from what. we've seen? It's pretty clear, and if you take.

three steps back, I mean, Ukraine is. not even the. point. The point is. destroying Putin. And killing Russia and breaking. it up. and killing Russia and breaking it up. And if you kill large. numbers of Ukrainians, I think for. many of the people behind this, that. was seen as collateral damage or. even a bonus. I hate to make that point, but -. Well, I agree completely. I mean killing killing Christians. around the world is the actual. subtext to our foreign policy I mean. Someone just handed me this. This is just out.

Ukraine backs US proposal for 30. day ceasefire with Russia. I'm gonna read this to you if you don't. mind. Ukraine, quote, expressed readiness. to accept a US proposal for an. immediate 30 day ceasefire with. Russia. The two countries said in a joint. statement after a key meeting. between US and Ukrainian officials. in Saudi Arabia. A ceasefire implemented would be a. major diplomatic breakthrough, dah, dah, dah, dah. This is Rubio, quote, the Secretary of State. The ball is now in their court. We hope the Russians will. reciprocate. The U .S. agreed to lift its suspension on.

intelligence sharing with Ukraine. and resume weapons. shipments to the country, which were. paused 10 days ago. That makes no sense. After weak suppression, the. Ukrainians, the US side signaled the. pressure is now on Russia. Quote, if the Russians say no, we. will know what the impediment is. here, said Marco Rubio. National Security Advisor Mike Waltz. said Ukraine not only accepted the. US proposal, but also presented. its principles for a comprehensive. peace deal, which includes security. guarantees that it requires. Waltz also made clear to his team.

that all fighting needs. to stop, not just air and missile. strikes. Before we negotiate, we. need to stop shooting at each other. That's what the president wanted to. see," said Marco Rubio. The U .S. and Ukraine also agreed to conclude. as soon as possible, quote, a. comprehensive agreement for. developing Ukraine's critical. mineral resources. It wasn't clear if this meant that. they would sign the deal that they'd. been talking about. Steve Witkoff, President Trump's. envoy, global envoy, is visiting.

Moscow on Thursday to meet with. President Putin and discuss. this. What's your response to that? Well, I think there's some positive. things in there, but we're missing. the boat with the Russians again. We don't understand that if. Ukraine is going to be neutral, why. are we continuing to supply it with. weapons at this stage? It's the Ukrainians that have to. stop fighting. The Russians will. stop when they see. evidence that the Ukrainian force is. defeated or quits. That hasn't happened yet.

Not with these attacks that just. occurred over Moscow. So the Russians are asking the. question, You're the ones keeping. this. monster alive. You created the monster, the. monster is fatally wounded, and. you keep putting it on life support. Do you really want an end to this. war? Imagine if we were. dealing with a similar enemy in. Mexico, and we found out that. the Russians and the Chinese had. provided vast quantities. of equipment and assistance to the. Mexicans who were trying to fight us.

and regain control of. the Southwest, and we'd. defeated them and driven them back. out of the country. they refuse to stop, they continue. to fight. We say, well, if you want this war. to end, tell them to stop. fighting, put down their weapons. and back out. And if they won't do that, then we. have to do what? March into Mexico and crush them. I mean, this is the best analogy. that I can come up with to make. people understand what we're dealing. with. So if you want normalized.

relations with Russia, go back to what we said at the. beginning, end the. military support for this heinous. regime. is guilty of all sorts of. terrible war crimes anyway. All the things that Russia was. accused of are things that the. Ukrainians have done. So let's get out of this. Well, they tried to, you know, and. the assassinating people, they tried. to assassinate a couple people I. know personally as well. Fact, not guessing. So you know, I consider that.

government, not the Ukrainians, I. think the Ukrainians, as you said, are valiant and decent, an awful lot of them are Christians, I know a lot of Ukrainians, and I couldn't think more highly of. them, but I think that their. government is totally. evil. Completely and so here's the. thinking as far as I understand it. What do I know? But my strong sense. is that the. Trump White House wants to end to. this war the president campaigned on. it. He thinks it's within. his grasp He also wants. a more normalized relationship with.

Russia He's he grieves. over Russia's now permanent. alliance with China. He sees how bad that is. It's not fixable But. bringing Russia a little bit closer. back to the West is a good thing. I think I'm describing his thinking. fairly. For the purposes of making a deal, the thought is that you can't. make a deal from a position of. weakness. And so you have to show your. teeth in order to get the other side. to come to better terms.

That's the idea behind throwing. more weapons to Ukraine. How do you assess that? It's delusional, it's. leading down the wrong path. If you want this to end, then stop. it. You stop supplying it and get our. people out of Ukraine. Make it very clear, we're out of. this. No more weapons, no more cash, we're finished. The British and the French can't. come in and make up for that, neither can the Germans. So that's all nonsense. You saw this Euros Summit, they're gonna assemble what, almost.

a trillion dollars to beef up. defense in these countries. Good luck. I don't see that occurring in Europe. at all, because the average. Europeans are saying, for what? They look at what's happening and. they no longer believe this myth. The Russians are coming, the. Russians are coming, the Russians. are coming. They're gonna be on I -95 in. Northern Jersey tomorrow night, come. on, the Russians are coming. We have to kill them here you hear. Republicans say this all the time. Republican senators really the worst. group in the country I'll say this all the time. in my opinion, short of Antifa, but. it's a really good deal.

for us because we're killing all. these European Christians. there so. we don't have to kill them here. And they say that out loud. Well, they said that Lyndon Johnson. was a wolf. We don't kill them here now. in Vietnam. We're gonna be fighting them in Los. Angeles. So we gotta get them now. Come on, that was ridiculous. I heard General Abizade make the. same stupid statement in 2004, wow, we have to kill these.

Islamist terrorists here in Iraq. or we'll be fighting them in our own. country. It's all crap, it's the same old. set of lies. It's sort of like the perpetual. neocon narrative. It's 1936, we all have to band together, there's another Hitlerite on the. horizon. You know, this is. a standard sort of. gruel that is pitched to the. American people over and. over and over again in the. anglosphere in general, whether it's. Great Britain. Not true, Australia. to Australia, it's all nonsense.

We gotta get past this and once. and for all, bury it. If we really want this to stop, this is not about winning or losing. I think that's another problem. You know, we gotta make sure this is. a win for the president. A win for the president is. an end to this war, period. Number two, what are our interests. in Ukraine? Tell me what they are. What are the strategic interests? that justify intervention in that. country.

Time's up. There are none. We've never had any interest in. Ukraine whatsoever. We wish them well. We want them to be happy and. prosperous, but. we have never had any interest in. defending them against anybody. under any circumstances. We've got to get back to what's. rational, not what's emotional. The president just needs to look at. this and say, We immediately. stopped this. and he can be a. world historical figure.

if he ends the carnage. in Ukraine by simply saying, that's. it, we're out, and. then turns around to the Middle East. and say, stop now. No more mass murder and expulsion. of human beings from Gaza or. the West Bank or anywhere else. If he's willing to do those things, he's a world historical figure. That's a dramatic sea change in the. history, I would say. of the West and probably of the. world. But instead what we get is, oh, we can't do that.

We'll look weak. Sort of the argument that Kissinger. made to Nixon. Well, we can't just leave Vietnam. Well, that's exactly what the hell. we did, right? We left. So, no, we got to go into Cambodia. to show them that we're strong. How many people did we lose in. Cambodia needlessly? It's the same mentality. Just be honest. This is over. And then tell the Europeans, these. are people that we're supposedly. allied with, that they need to. sit down at the table with Moscow.

And we're happy to be there. We'll sponsor it. We'll set them up and they can sort. it out. But they've gone so far in the other. direction, like in the UK. right now, even Nigel Farage. head of the Reform Party, which I. think is the biggest party, doesn't. have power, but it's by. registration the biggest party in. Britain, and it's the counterbalance. both to the, you know, the crazed. labor rights and the pathetic. castrated Tories. They won't, say.

we should end the war in Ukraine. Even they won't. I mean, it's like there's nobody, there's no party that I'm. aware of in all of Europe with. power that will say that. Well, you said with power. There are plenty of parties out. there advocating. There are, there. are. There are AFD, the Alternative. für Deutschland, is not. a far -right party. I hear that all the time. Anything that challenges the. status quo is also far -right. Anything an apple bomb doesn't want. it's a but. It's a bunch of nonsense yeah, they.

want an end to this. There's no question about it None of. this ever made sense for Germany. under any circumstance. Well, it destroyed Germany. Yeah, the Germans have destroyed. Germany. Oh I know, oh I know. Not the Russians. Oh, I know. And the Russians have no. interest in destroying Germany. It's the ruling classes in these. countries, they're globalist and. they need to be removed and they. will be removed. I'm confident that it will happen. The British have not had a real. revolution since Cromwell, but. I think they've reached the point. now where they very much need a. Cromwellian figure to clean.

house because the people ruling them. are weak and inept. Do you see any paths to that. happening? I don't know. I don't know. I haven't been to. Britain for many years, you. know. Really? No, I have not. I think the last time I was in. Britain was. 2005. It'll make you too sad. Yeah, I mean, you're talking to. somebody who worships. at the altar of English -speaking. civilization.

Me too. And I don't even want to think about. it. But I think there are still. enough Scots, Welsh, English, and Irish there who will stand up. and be counted. I'm cheered up by somebody like. Conor McGregor that stands up. and defends Irish national culture, identity, language, everything. All of the Europeans need to come to. Jesus on this one. They need to come very, very soon. And that doesn't mean they're evil. It means that they're defending the. one thing that is worth defending,

which is their own country, their. own nation, their own society. So I hope that that will happen. We need to do the same thing. And that's why I went down to. the border. Not because, and again, this has. nothing to do with whether you. love or dislike Mexicans. I'm sorry, Mexicans are fine. That's not the issue. Well, everyone likes Mexicans, I. mean, no one's against Mexicans. I mean, no one's against Mexicans. The bottom line though is that. our border is the soft underbelly. of the country. It's a strategic vulnerability. And what exists in.

Latin America, in Central America, in Mexico is very dangerous to us. And if we don't wake up and start. focusing on it, it will. ultimately destroy us. How many hundreds of thousands have. we lost? 500 ,000 people? to sentinel poisoning. And somebody says, whoa, Chinese, wait a minute. The Chinese ship ingredients, they're mixed down in Mexico. You don't like the fact that Chinese. sold the ingredients? Fine, you can ban the.

Chinese from exporting to the United. States. I don't care what you do. Don't go to war with China. The people that are mixing the. poison and then mainlining it into. the country, they're the cartels. in Mexico. And by the way, they have a lot of. support here. Their influence reaches right up. into DHS. all the way to Congress. There are so many people on the. payroll, I'm told after my. visit down to the border, it's. frightening. American officials on the payroll of. Mexican drug cartels.

The other thing, as an example, I said, well, have we stopped. everything? And you know, you talk. to sheriffs and I went down. there and talked to really a great. man and he's a huge. supporter of President Trump as I. am. And I walked into his. office, this building, and. here's this life -size. photograph of Donald Trump pointing. at you. I thought it was Trump. I mean, I really did. I said, my God, how'd the president. get here ahead of all of us? It was about the same time that.

Vance and Tulsi and. Hegseth went to Eagle Pass. And this was Kinney County and this. was Sheriff Coe. And Sheriff Coe says, oh, things. have gotten so much better. That's right, the optics are much. better. There are no longer. thousands of people marching over. the border anymore. What about the legal ports of entry? The border patrol has nothing to do. with the legal ports of entry. Those are controlled by police. authorities, customs police, and others. And I said, well, what's the problem.

with the legal ports of entry? Well, most of the drugs and. a lot of the human trafficking comes. through the legal ports. I said, well, how does that happen? They said, well, if somebody comes. up to you and you make normally. three or 4 ,000 a month, and they say, here's 20 ,000. let us through, you get through. And that's part of the problem on. the border. So I said, what do you think needs. to happen? And people told me. privately, you need to get the US.

Army on the border. Bring back the regular army and then. rotate them. and the Army's down on the border. No, they just sent a brigade and. that's fine. But we have, I think, six or seven. of these brigades of motorized. infantry, these light armored. vehicles, put them on the border. We need 40, 50, 60 ,000. troops down there. We need some aviation brigades down. there. Now they don't all have to. stay there forever, but they need to. stay there until the barriers are. built and the border is secure. And then we need to come up with a. system where we periodically rotate.

units down there to back up. the police, back up the. border patrol. because the cartels are infinitely. better armed than the police and. the border patrol. They have javelin missile. systems. Yes, yes. They've got unmanned systems. For ISR, for intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, they've got armed unmanned systems. And the thing that nobody seems to. understand is what happens when. we finally stop it?

You stop the drugs, you. stop the human trafficking along the. border. Now, they're gonna try and. go around you. They'll try to use. the coastal waters. I think the Coast Guard belongs in. the United States, not in the. South China Sea, not in the Persian. Gulf. They belong here and. they're not. They need to bring them back and get. them in the coast. We have the Coast Guard and the. Persian Gulf. Yes, yes, absolutely. We gotta get them back into the. coastal waters. Whose coast are we. guarding? Well, not ours. Let's be frank, that's the problem.

And they're gonna try and find other. ways. Say we'll fly people up to. North America. You know, Michael. Yan, he studied all of this. I know, I'm well, yeah. He's done great work down there at. all these camps that we, the American federal government has. actually helped to fund these. non -governmental organizations. in order to sponsor millions. of people to invade our country. and give them phones. You know the routine. I do. They're still there. Those camps are still there. Somebody needs to go down and torch. those things. In other words, it needs to be.

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the the party that ruled. Mexico from the revolution. up until Vicente Fox. They had deals with, you know, they. had sort of had a. stasis. And the second that. arrangement collapsed, the country fell. And I mean, they had a more reform. -minded government, but the country. fell into basically a civil war. that it's been in ever since, right? I mean, the cartels are,

and now they run the country. They were on the country, yeah. And of course we have the problem. with arguably. 50 million illegals inside. the United States. 30 million is what. most of the people watching the. borders and watching the camps down. in Darien in Panama. say have come into the country. And we want to deport these people. Absolutely, we need to. It will help us enormously. I mean, how are we paying for their. healthcare? How are we paying for. all the things that they want and.

need? Well, we're printing money. You know, this is a burden on our. society, not a benefit. Everybody says, well, that's not. true. Their immigrants are a. benefit. Legal immigrants can be a benefit. Not these people. They're not a benefit, and they need. to go. Well, how do you do that? And historically, when. Herbert Hoover directed. the removal of nine million. Mexicans after the stock market. crashed, to open up jobs for. Americans. remember?

Americans won't do those jobs. Guess what? When there was no work, they were. gonna do all of those jobs. He said, I've got to get these. people out before Americans. take shots at them because they want. their jobs. Okay, he moved nine million out. FDR moved three and a half million. Truman moved out over two million. Eisenhower moved out another 1 .5. How did this happen? Put the army in charge. United States Army, supplemented. by the police and the National. Guard.

and they organized it and executed. it. We've got to do that. How many of those people are. sleeper cells for various terrorist. organizations around the world that. wanna do us harm? Well, I'm sure Tulsi Gabbard. can come on here and talk about it. She knows more about it than. probably any of us at this point. But I don't know how many, but I. know there are a lot. and we should be very concerned. about that. And I don't see anybody expressing. that concern anywhere.

And which is one of the reasons I. went down there with some really. great people to show me around and. explain these things. Now I want everybody to. understand the people that you've. got on the border with very few. exceptions are trying very hard to. do the right thing, all these. sheriffs are. But they all admit privately that. the problem is bigger than they are. And that's why the federal. government has to have a role. The federal government also has to. have a zone where it can operate. You need at least a mile, mile and a. half, two miles into the United. States where you can.

you can take over and arrest. people that get through. Right now, you know, we have this. big problem with you get into the. United States and everything. changes. That's got to stop. Excuse me, all. of these things are far more. important than what is happening. today in the Middle East. When I say far more important, I'm. saying for us as Americans. I'm not saying that what happens in. Gaza is irrelevant. It isn't. It's terrible. What's happening on the West Bank is. terrible.

We should be doing everything in our. power to stop this mass murder. The American people don't see it. They don't hear about it. They don't even hear about what. happens to Christians. all over the Middle East that are. being killed. I mean, the photographs that come to. me in a steady stream from people. over there are frightening. They're murdering Alawites, they're. murdering Orthodox Christians, they're murdering Roman Catholics in. Syria. You know, we helped to create this. chaos in Syria. So did Netanyahu. At some point, our friend Erdogan.

needs to come down and restore some. measure of order. I think that's inevitable. Somebody's gotta take control of. that place and run it. It's not going to run itself. But these things are not our things. Does that make sense? Of course it does, of course it. does. No, our priorities have been. hijacked by other countries. and it's. distressing because it does seem. like the problems that we face. now.

you know, will determine whether the. United States, you know, remains. Makes it. Makes it. Thank you. Nicely put. Makes it. So just to bottom line on. a couple of issues. Do you, how would. you rate the likelihood? I mean, it does seem like the. president, having run on the promise. of peace in Eastern Europe and. inserted himself right into the. middle of it, being the only. person who can bring peace, you know, he kind of has to see this. through. and likely will, do you,

how hard will it be to get some sort. of settlement between Ukraine and. Russia? Well, he has to keep something in. mind. You cannot turn around after the. American government and. all of its agencies have worked. tirelessly to. kill, maim, murder, harm as many Russians as. possible. including Putin himself. Yeah, over the last, what, three and. a half years. So we have to understand that. You just can't, you can't just. flip the switch and say,

sorry, we wanna. be friends now. However much you may wanna do that, you can't. You've got to admit this is a. catastrophe and we are mightily. responsible. And that's why I would urge the. president to do exactly what I. said. End all aid to Ukraine. Stop pretending. that that government and anything. we've done in that country is a. positive thing. It's not. Has nothing to do with liberal. democracy, has nothing. to do with goodness in any.

form. What we've done there is. terrible. What we need to do is stop it. So stop sending any aid and. then get everybody out. Everybody. And then offer to host a. conference between, and I would. not argue everybody in Europe, but I. would certainly argue, all of. the states that border Russia. and Germany, because Germany may. not border Russia, but Germany. has long -term strategic interests. in Russia, as Russia has in. Germany. They should all meet in a.

conference room and agree to a new. map with new borders. We don't need to draw those. They need to draw those, and. Europeans can do that. They have been around forever. How many times have European. borders changed in the last thousand. years? They've redrawn some maps over time. I can't even keep up. Of course. I mean, try to find, like, the. map of what's now called. Ukraine. How many iterations in the past? Just 100 years.

Too many, too many do even count. You can't even keep up. And you stop this nonsense about, well, you can't trust the Russians. They're gonna do, they'll take. advantage of that. Come on, this is nonsense. They've lost 120 ,000. human lives. You really think they wanna. continue? There's no interest in that at all. And you know, what's really. distinguished President Putin from. all of his predecessors, I would argue is his concern. for the lives of Russian.

soldiers. None of his predecessors were ever. that concerned about how many lives. they lost. You go back to the First World. War and Nicholas II was a good man, but he was willing to accept. tremendous losses if he thought he. was going to pave the road to. victory with Russian dead. That's not Putin. That's not what he wants. Lavrov doesn't want it. The general staff doesn't want it. The population doesn't want it. So we need to stop that nonsense. And that's about as much as we can.

do. We're not going to overnight. cultivate new friendship with. them. It's gonna take at least. a decade, probably two decades, to restore some sort of normalcy to. our relationship. Mineral deal in Ukraine wise. I don't understand what this. is. I've looked, I'm interested in rare. earths, okay? And I've done some work in that area. and rare earths can be. found anywhere on the planet. However, not in high. concentrations. We just found the highest. concentration of rare earths in.

Europe right off the coast of. Norway. I love the Norwegians, I'm very. happy for them. Although they're a bit lunatic when. it comes to understanding what's. happening in Ukraine. They have enough natural resources. already in Norway, it seems that. they're overblast. But I mean, they have it and that's. good. I don't know what he's talking. about. I don't know what the. president is talking about in. Ukraine because all of those. rare earths and any kind of. concentration are in Eastern. Ukraine under Russian feet. right now or in Crimea.

Well, so maybe that is kind of the. point. And I, you know, look, if that's the. case, pack up, get out, and at some point let's do. business with the Russians because. the Ukrainians are not gonna have. those concentrations. So I'm aware, I knew, that's. why I asked you the question, because I knew that and I'm, or I think I know that. And so it makes me wonder, like, if Zelensky is, you know, now. anxious to sign this deal, was. anxious before to sign the deal, before his arrogance and bad advice. got in the way, maybe what this really is,

is a way to. change US policy. have us try and force the Russians. to withdraw from Crimea and eastern. Ukraine, which of course is not. going to happen. Well, yeah, there's how. many, how many. Rs are there in fat chance? That's not going to happen. By the way, there are marvelous. concentrations of rare earths in. Canada. Yeah. You know, historically we've. been friends. Come on.

What are we doing over there with. rare earths? This is nuts. Let's do business with the. Canadians. They've got rich deposits. of rare earths. We have some here in the United. States. And since we have the opportunity to. talk about this a little bit, I'd. like to help out my friends in. Southern Kentucky because you. have coal seams in Southern. Kentucky, finest coal in the world, by the way, very high. BTUs, very low phosphorus, burns clean, very hot. And in the coal seams, there are. rare earths in abundance. And in all the old slag.

heaps and all the containment pools. from many, many decades of. mining, there are rare earths. So Kentucky, Southern Kentucky should be a boom. economy in the future. If anybody has any brains, go down there and start. mining for rare earths. You don't even have to dig it up. It's in the slag heaps and in the. pools. Yeah, now we don't have a refinery. I don't know if we have a refinery.

here in the United States. The biggest refineries that do the. best job are in Kazakhstan, outer Mongolia, and in. China, inner Mongolia. So we ship this stuff over. there. Wouldn't it make sense to. pass a bill and build. refinery so we refine our own. rare earths here inside the United. States? And this is the sort of thing. President Trump talks about all the. time. absolutely dead right.

That's what we should be doing. Forget this business in Ukraine. It's a waste of time. We don't need to do that. We need to search for opportunities. right under our noses right. now in this hemisphere. This is where we live. You might as well do it here. A lot's gonna, a lot's gonna. need to change. Oh, and listen, he's done so. many good things with his executive. orders here at home. Now, I don't know about the depth of. planning. I don't know about the strategy. It'll take time to see what's.

there. But he set the forces in. motion in the right direction. All of that, all of that. could be lost by. bad decisions in the Middle East or. Eastern Europe. Do you know, I mean, I know. the head of CENTCOM, I. think is very anxious to have new. wars in the Middle East. Um, who is the Senkom commander. right now? Is it Karilla? I think. Oh, no, really? You have that impression.

Well, then it's time to. ask for his papers and send him on. his way. We don't, it's. like saying, I think it's a great. time to contract syphilis. Let's go get it. You know, the hell with that. Do you think at the Pentagon, you no. longer work at the Pentagon, but if. you were to spend. a week there talking to people off. the record, like what would be the. level of support for new wars? Well, first of all, remember that. your general officer corps is.

different from the rest of the. officer corps. That was -. That was worse. That doesn't mean there aren't lots. of full colonels out there who are. desperate to be generals. And so they'll try to provide you. with the answer they think is most. likely to get them promoted. Okay. Uh, but when you go into the general. officer court, the three and four. star level, they have been. conditioned for decades. to look for trouble. Literally. In other words, go out. and find a reason why. we need central command.

We need Africa command. we need. European command, we need Pacific. command. Now we call it Indo. -Pacific, insane. When I was sitting. over at the National Defense. University before I retired, they. came over and said, well, we're gonna have Africa command. And I looked at, and Abizade at the. time was the J5. I said, why? I mean, how would you feel if you're. an African? Well, the United States military has. now created the command and calls it.

Africa Command. How's that good for Africa? Are you planning on invading? You know, I mean, having. been to Africa, the last thing. Africans need is a. column of U .S. or British or French troops marching. through the neighborhood. It's a disaster. They have enough violence and. problems there we don't need to add. to it. I think President Trump wants to get. rid of Africa Command. We don't need most of these. We should have four. We should have Northern Command,

Pacific Command, Southern Command, and Atlantic Command. That's it. You know why? Because that's all we. need. You know why we have all these. commands? This all emerged as a. result of the Second World War. Because you needed layered commands. over distance to communicate. I mean, if you take a drive out to. Kansas, one of my favorite states, and I was stationed at both. Leavenworth and Fort Riley, Why. is Fort Riley where. it is from Fort Leavenworth because.

it takes exactly one day. on horseback to ride from. Fort Leavenworth to Fort Riley. And that was important 130, 140 years ago because you. had Arapahos and Comanches. and other people that could. interfere with you. So you had to be able to get. somewhere to reinforce or support. someone else. That's gone. We don't have to do that now. You can have instantaneous. communications almost anywhere in. the world if you want it. immediately.

You can have visibility of. everything thanks to the satellite. arrays that we have of everything. You don't have to have commands for. every region in the world. And we don't have to strive. for global military hegemony. What we need to do is be. resolute in the defense of our. country here in the Western. hemisphere. So those four commands make sense. They make sense because we are also. primarily a maritime and. an aerospace power. We're not a land power except in.

the United States. And that's why the United States. Army for over 100 years was. always on the Mexican border. because that's where the hotspots. were. We forget that Mexico. was the one that the Germans. approached in 1917 as. a potential ally against us. and the Mexicans were only too. happy. After they left, you got the. communists and they moved into. Mexico. and the Mexicans were very pro. -communist all up through the Second. World War and beyond.

the largest KGB operation. in North America was in. Mexico, Mexico City. Of course, Oswald went there, Leon. Trotsky lived in Mexico City. Of course. And of course, our friend Castro. and Che Guevara. Che was always special to me, he's a. Bosque, but that's another story. Anyway, the point is, good Lord, what are. we doing? We should be concerned. about Mexico. It's a permanent issue for. us. It's as important to us as. Ukraine is to Russia.

So let me ask you a last question in. an area that I know you know a lot. about, Germany. Yeah. So I thought you were gonna be the. ambassador to Germany. I think you should have been. I know, sorry to break. I think it should have been, I know, sorry. It's back to ours with fat chance. Sorry to bring up a sore subject, but the reason that Germany matters, I mean, there are many reasons it. matters, but it is basically, it's. Europe, and without Germany, it's. kind of hard to be Europe, except. it's like some sad museum. It's the only really living part of.

Europe, and it seems to be dying. What happens to Germany? That's going to depend a great deal. on the emergence of real leadership. in Germany that is clear. -eyed and focused on what's. important to Germany. I think the last time they had that. kind of capable leadership was. really with Bismarck. I think Wilhelm I was. a good man, but he wasn't strong. enough to resist the dumb. ideas that came his way. And Hitler obviously overreached.

and destroyed everything, put. everything at risk. I don't see any evidence that the. Germans are interested in. overreaching or conquering anybody, but they do have an interest in. restoring their productivity, their scientific industrial base. They've thrown the baby out with the. bathwater. You know, when I went to school over. there, and I went to a good school, and I was at a good school in the. United States, I was the oldest. Quaker private school in the United. States, founded in 1681, the same year that my maternal. ancestors arrived in United States.

And I was sent there because my. maternal ancestors were all Quakers, and many of them had gone through. all these friends' school systems, very good. And I went from that school for. one year to Germany, to. Braunschweig, in northern. central Germany. We call it Brunswick in English, Braunschweig. And I went back to see the school in. 2015, and I saw it in 2011, briefly, and then again in 2015. And it was all male.

and. When I got into the 11th grade, they were studying differential. calculus and preparing to move into. integral calculus. Well, that was a bit advanced for. me. You know, I'd gone through algebra. and trigonometry and so forth, but differential and integral. calculus in the 11th grade, this. was a real problem. And I struggled mightily. And this was a school with 13. grades. And by the time you finished, if you. completed your obitur,

You were qualified to go to any. university in the country. You were stamped. You got the stamp of approval. They did look at your performance on. your final exams. But this was very, very rigorous. I mean, I was dealing with. classmates who were on the. humanities side. I was stuck on the. math science side, which is the. wrong place for me at the time. But, you know, I survived. Lots of beer. Anyway, on the other. side, they were studying Greek and. Latin, uh, along. with French and other,

and English. It was very rigorous. This was a university prep school. because the Germans had a system. where at the fifth grade and. the ninth grade, people were. separated and were sent off. to what we would. call trade schools. You could learn to be a hotel. manager. You could learn to be any number of. different trades or whatever skills. were needed, from electrician to. plumber or something else. Only about 15 %. went through this university. prep system which was designed.

to send you to a university where. you would go on to do great things. So I got back there and we were all. male. And the first thing that I saw on. the first day, I came in there and. everybody was fairly nice to me. They thought I was strange and I. thought they were strange, but you. know, whatever. Germans are. different, you know? I said, geez, these Germans are very. different. And they gave me a seat, told me. where to sit. And the instructor walked into the. classroom and the instructor. said, Good morning, my lords!

and everybody stood up at attention. Said, Good morning, Mr. Student Council. And he would say, Please, gentlemen, sit down. And we all sat down. Let me tell you, what happened after. that was serious. We sat down and we focused. nonstop for an hour, hour and 20 minutes on. whatever the subject matter was. And the instructor was very well. trained, very well educated, and he. would turn around and he would say. to one of the students at the top of. the class. in the front row, I.

sort of sat in the back. And this guy was. the individual that recorded. whatever was taught in the class. that day. And he would say, what did we. discuss the last time? And he would open the book and he. said, the last time we discussed the. following things. Exactly, this time we are going to. do the following. Let me tell you, it was one of the. best educations I've ever gotten in. my life. But what really struck me was. focus.

School was not about anything. else other than. infusing minds. with understanding and knowledge. It was very effective. So when I went back in 2015, I looked around, suddenly. there were all these girls. There were no women with us, we were. all male. Suddenly we have all these girls in. the hallways. And I peeked in and I saw and the. teacher walked in and said, okay, students, please take your seats. and we'll get going.

And I was shocked. So I spoke to the man who ran the. school and said, oh, we've adopted. the American model. We've done everything that you do in. America now. I said, you've lost your mind. just like lowered the standards. dramatically. What you had here worked. It was brilliant. And I was so grateful that I was. exposed to it. And you ruined it. Of course, they say, well, this. man's a neanderthal. He's an idiot. He doesn't understand. what he's talking about.

Germany has to get back to basics. Go back to being German and. stop apologizing for being German. Do what Germans do best. I'm not saying Germans are perfect, but every nationality. has a certain area. of expertise, a certain specialty. that they do very, very well. The Germans need to get back to that. and stop apologizing for events. that happened long before any of. these people were born. That doesn't mean that you're.

denying something that happened, absolutely not. No one denies anything in Germany. In fact, when they started. showing these Nazi symbols in. Ukraine, people in Germany. were horrified. saying, my God, what is going on in. that country? And they should have been horrified. We should have been horrified, and we weren't. We subsidized it, we pushed it. Well, some Nazis are okay as long. as, you know, they're doing the.

bidding of the. CIA and the Biden administration, you know, as long. as Toria Nuland thinks they're okay. Yeah, well, I don't subscribe. to that view. I'm pretty anti -Nazi across. the board. Yeah. And there's so many good things. about Germany that that's the last. thing in the world you want to. resurrect. And I think that will happen. But it's not going to happen under. Metz. He's another semi -globalist. with connections to Black Rock and. others. He's going to stagger forward and.

eventually the Germans will get rid. of him. And eventually I think the AFD. will come to power. In fact, they've done the AFD a. great favor by refusing to. cooperate with them. because that will draw more people. into the AFD so that when they do. get power, they will have an. ironclad majority and. they can do the things that are. needed to save. Um, so you don't think Germany's. dead? Oh, absolutely not. No one in Europe is dead. Nobody in Europe is dead.

But they have to - Even the Brits? No, absolutely, oh come on. They're so degraded, it just. breaks my heart. We're just pretty. Listen, I think if. you spend time over. there, I think you'll find there's. a lot left. I do talk to people. on the phone, I have done some. podcasts with Englishmen and. Scotsmen and so forth, but they have been through this. systematic brainwashing to be. turned into self -loathing. Europeans,

apologizing for things they never. did and that they shouldn't. apologize for. I agree. You know, I mean. this is just crazy. It's like saying You're evil, you were in the Second Cavalry, McGregor, and you know what they did. to the Indians? Come on, I wasn't there, you know? And I'm sure it was terrible, and I'm sorry we did that, and it's. regrettable, but I wasn't there, and. I'm not gonna compensate. anybody for anything. You know, my grandfather used to. say, none of us is responsible. for the people our parents slept.

with. That's exactly right. The hell was that? You know, we don't believe in. collective punishment here in the. Christian West. Doug McGregor, thank you for. your bracing, but very. insightful analysis. Good to see you again, Tucker. Nice to see you.