Chris Moritz: How Kamala Gave California to the Cartels, & the Psychopaths Ruling the Democrat Party

I got to say, it is. a little bit astounding to those of. us from California to see. a politician from that state run. for president, because you in the. back of your mind, you you. wonder like when someone going to. ask her about the state she's from, which is like the greatest. disaster in the history of the. United States, probably Greece, disastrous since the fall of Rome, I. would say went from the greatest. place, I think it's fair to say, on. planet Earth. Yes, When I grew up in. the 70s and 80s, 6070s. and 80s to a place.

that people are fleeing. And so without, you know, blaming. Kamala Harris for all of it, it's. not all her fault. But someone's. have to answer for that. You've just written a book on this. Bless you for doing that.

Why don't we tape Aaron? Yeah, we're. We're live, baby. Yeah. My gosh. I know. Don't worry. Barry demoed. Fuck you, San Diego. Excuse me. So, as. a San Diego. I've never forgotten. that. So what? What happened to California? Well, you know, there's a lot of. there's a lot of reasons as to how. we ended up in a one party state, how we ended up in.

a state of decrepitude. and, frankly, with elements of. criminality that are so. depraved and. savage and dark. that they are really unseen. outside of the worst conflict. zones in the world. And that is characterized. by, let's say, for instance, the rise of child. soldiers, juveniles. committing a lot of crime, in fact, maybe driving.

the crime surge in the state. And certainly in Los Angeles, children, children as young. as ten being recruited by gangs. to commit armed robbery, hijackings. and even murder. Okay. So now we're just in Mexico. You're basically doing worse. Than Mexican. Worse than Mexico. So there. are a million authors of this. tragedy. But if you were to. point to 2 or. 3 big facts, big. changes, big trends that created.

the dystopia you're describing, what. would they be? Well, so there's a legislative angle. to this. And I think that's a. really, really important part of. the history. and the pathway. to destruction. And that started. well, that was influenced by a. number of factors. Principally, there was a there was an important. Supreme Court case in 2011. called Brown v Plata. And in this decision, which was A54 split, Kennedy.

was the deciding factor on the. liberal side, wrote the opinion. It was determined that the. California state prison system. was in violation of the Eighth. Amendment, which is cruel and. unusual punishment. And this was owing to the fact that. prisons were operating at 200%. capacity at that time. And according to this ruling, California had to conform. to a very arbitrary. capacity ratio,

or that was established by. a federal bureaucracy. of 137.5%. So, okay, so if you were at. 137.5%, you were no longer in violation of. the Eighth Amendment. So as a result of this. ruling, California did have. to find ways to comply. and took a number of steps. to do so. A number of laws that are. discussed, but coinciding. with with this ruling.

and going back further, is the emergence of. the criminal justice reform. movement, principally coming. out of places like Stanford Law. School and some. particular individuals, like. a gentleman named Mike Romano, who. was able to influence. the legislature and. executive level officers. in the state to embrace. policies that were.

part of the criminal justice reform. movement and principally. dedicated to the idea of reducing. the so-called crisis of mass. incarceration. So this meant that there. was a force coming from the. Supreme Court that was motivating. this and also ideological. activist elements. that pushed for these same reforms. at the same time. So as we face ourselves, it's. the formulation that we should never. thought about till now mass.

incarceration, which. I don't think any normal person. would be in favor of mass. incarceration. But that's you're only describing. one side of the coin. The other way. to describe the, you know, the crime. wave that we're living through, the. results, I mean, that. results in people going to prison. Yeah. No one thought to address. crime. Well. So California. had up until, let's say, 2011, one of the most stringent. criminal justice systems in.

the entire country. We, of course, were. the. the the force behind the three. strikes law. Yeah. And three strikes. put a lot of bad people away. for forever. But it had problems, too. To be to be honest like there. were there were problems and there. were reforms applied to it. to reduce, you know, potential. injustices. Right. And I. I support those But.

nevertheless three strikes. and it's. and also the introduction. of what are called enhancements. So special circumstance enhancements. in which, let's say you use a. gun in a crime, you use a gun that adds ten years. additionally to your conviction. If you use a gun and you. shoot someone that's 20. years, if you use a gun and. kill someone, it's life. So that's an enhancement.

If you're a gang member and. engage in, you know, whatever crime, gang enhancements would apply. and those would add to the. sentencing. These things were all eliminated. and obliterated. in big parts by. directives that came from. the so-called Soros Diaz, a progressive Diaz in 2020. But the dismantling, you know, started really.

following this Supreme Court case. So the first law. there was a big problem. and put us on this path was called. AB 109. It's called the Public Safety. Realignment Act. And the idea was to reduce. the the the. number of prisoners in the state. system. You would transfer so-called. nonviolent, non-sexual, low risk offenders.

to county jails. There's a problem, though. And the problem and the. sort of poison pill within it. was the issue of what. classified, nonviolent, nonsexual, low risk offenders. Because under a B, 1 or 9, the only offense. that would be considered. was the last offense for which you. were convicted. So in other words, inmates with long and.

violent criminal histories. who happen to be in jail. in state prison because of. a nonviolent offense, were eligible for this system. and they were transferred out. 27,000. It didn't even. Even with that, we still didn't meet. the capacity threshold. of 137.5. But this was one of the steps to do. so. Here's the other issue. Think of building more prisons. Well, you know, we don't have the.

money. You can't build. California was bankrupt at that. time. Yeah, right. And actually, like Jerry Brown, to his credit, like did. did a lot and like earnestly. to try and like. straighten the you know that. Right. The ship of California's. fiscal situation. But these kinds of policies. specific to jailing. were totally. ill conceived. And so with maybe 1. or 9, all these prisoners get.

go into county jails, but the county. jails are of the resources to to. to house them. They don't have the funds. to staff them. And so the. outcome is that many are. just released into the communities. Kamala Harris is elected. attorney general in 2010, narrowly beating. Steve Cooley, who is. the probably the last great.

district attorney of Los Angeles, a. Republican, by the way. He's the only he's. the only Republican she's ever run. against other than Trump. And she lost to him. He he lost to her by. just a few thousand votes, which just this is kind of an. interesting coda, is that there. were also kind of odd circumstances. around that election. Steve was ahead. And then, you know, kind of in 2020. fashion, there was a surge of her votes.

But anyway, she's elected. to California attorney general in. 2010, and. her first big. task is administering. AB 109, because as the head. of the California Justice. Department, she. really has the most, you know, highest. level of presence in. for sure understanding. the budgetary constraints of the. counties and and what. everyone was warning her, including.

the California District Attorney's. Association, police unions, that this law. was going to be a big problem. and she supported it. She did nothing to try and like. bring more resources to these county. jails. And this is a theme we'll see. over and over again in California, where the state has. some failures, some bureaucratic, you know, incompetency. or shortfall in the budget or some.

issue. And the and the the. the the strategy. in Sacramento is to simply move. that problem shifted to. localities, to counties to. manage, which are also struggling. So it's kind of robbing Peter to. pay Paul. And nothing changes. So after AB 109 went to. fact, the next year, property. crimes went up 9%. And moreover,

61%. of those offenders who were eligible. for this program and by the way, it's retroactive. 61% are arrested. within a year. and 41%. are convicted again. So clearly, the recidivism rate. created by this law was a major. problem. Fast forward to 2014. and the worst of them all.

comes out of. strategy. Political strategy Consultant firms. in San Francisco who, by the way, backs Kamala Harris and to. create trade stand. And this is called Prop 47. Yes. So Prop 47 was. Marketed to Californians. And I should say for people don't. understand California politics, we. have this, you. know, a system that allows for, you.

know, really important legislation. to be put forward directly to the. voters. And. that's how a lot of very, very. big laws in California have like. initiative system. Yeah. Like Prop 13. For cyclone Prop 27. Exactly. Well we can talk about but. prop form excuse me, 47. This was the stealing legalization. it's called. It was called just, you know, euphemistically the.

Safe Neighborhoods and Schools. Act. And the idea behind it was we. would again address. the mass incarceration problem, reduce the prison. capacity by shifting, again, nonviolent offenders, you know, out of state prisons. and treating. thefts under $950. as misdemeanors.

Prior to this law, thefts. at $400 would. be felony grand larceny. And this law changed it. such that it would have to be above. $950 to become a felony. So as as. a consequence of this. There was also as a as. another another factor. of 47 was that. drug possession. would would. would no longer be a.

felony. It would be treated as a. misdemeanor. And this has also exacerbated. the drug and homeless problem. In fact, I think in the years after. right after Prop 47. went into effect, the number. of E.R. overdose cases was up 25%. So this is the law that legalized. stealing and drug use effectively. So I remember this very well. And I think I remember Rob Reiner, who's an enemy of civilization, being one of the many celebrity.

backers of this. But it was quite popular. I mean, like a lot of famous people. were behind this. Yeah. Well, Kamala Harris. wrote the wrote. the law that appear on the ballot. And Kamala Harris did. Yes. Because in California, the attorney general of the state. will write the language and the. title for every proposition. Harris is the one who wrote the. Legalized Stealing Act. Yes. And I will tell you, Steve. Cooley calls it fraud. by misrepresentation.

And there is a poison pill within. Prop 47 that is. quite shocking. And she was actually called out for. it by the Sacramento Bee, and that is that these. reclassified offenders. would no longer be subject. to mandatory and standard. DNA testing. as a result of DNA. testing for across the. state went from 15,000. a month to 5000 a month. And DNA testing is super,

super critical for. the solving of. cold case homicides, rapes. and other violent crimes that, you know, are typically. associated with people with track. records of crimes. So these nonviolent, you know, the larceny. type offenders. are, you know, are very. likely are, you know, or at least, you know, it should be investigated. whether they have some.

kind of connection to other crimes. As we've seen, you know, everywhere. So small number of people commit the. overwhelming majority of crime. In every society. So Kamala Harris's. description in the ballot. for 47, basically offshore skated. this issue of the DNA. testing. And the Sacramento Bee. called her out on it and said that. this was effectively. a misrepresentation. or failure on her part to omit. this information from the. Shooters or the authors.

of this are. like taking the side of rapists over. the population. Yeah. And and well, I'll tell you. also, she was not alone in writing this. The language. I mean, Kamala Harris doesn't do. anything right? She does. She she is a. facilitator and. an opportunist. And everything every action. really, she has taken in California. has been on the basis of what is. good for Kamala Harris. Right. But what I have heard from.

from my sources, who are certainly would know. with Prop 47, it was significantly. influence in terms of the language. by prominent. figures from the criminal justice. reform movement. and even entities affiliated. with George Soros, who has always. been a funder of criminal justice. reform. So they sold this as. like, good for the California. budget, good for the safety. of your neighborhood, sort of the.

opposite of the truth or literally. opposite of the truth. And people bought it. What what was the market? 60%. 60%? Yes. Committed civilizational suicide. without knowing it? Yes. They we sowed. our own demise. Yes. And we did so because. our leaders. manipulate language. Nonviolent offender. For instance, is not known violent. offender. In fact, in the next law that came. about, that was, again,

on our pathway to destruction, Prop. 57, which passed in 2016, that law, again, which Kamala. Harris wrote the language for. and which she was excoriated. by other Democrats. when she was running for higher. office, particularly Loretta. Sanchez. Prop 57. was again to address. mass incarceration. and would offer additional. parole opportunities.

for offenders that were deemed. to be, quote, nonviolent. But under what is nonviolent. under 57, it is anything that is not. one of 23 specific. crimes that is in a obscure. section of the penal code. So nonviolent could be. drug trafficking, human trafficking, rape by intoxication, some forms of assault. Financial crimes, serious.

financial crimes. And basically, these these offenders. under this provision would. would have opportunities for parole. and also parole. administration, which. was also passed down to the county. levels, who, again, didn't. have the resources to handle. this new. burden. So there's a striking. example of this. Was a ballot initiative.

Also balanced, should also passed, again, I think by a pretty good. margin and not. as not as famous. or infamous as 47, but, you know, very destructive. There's a case of a of a. offender released under this. who went on to. kill like 4 or 5 people. in a mass shooting gang related. like within two years of. of release, because, of course,

when they go into the parole system, the parole system is is completely. incompetent at the local levels. They and they do not have the. resources. And there was a participation rate. of offenders of 9% in. rehabilitation programs. And the in the cornerstone. of 57 was we are taking. these, you know, people that, you know, they they are nonviolent. and they can be redeemed. Right. But it's.

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What would be the motive of. a so-called criminal. justice reformer. of George Soros? Kamala Harris His motives are always. political. So we worry. Answer that question. But but of the. other sincere believers in this. stuff, the idea that the criminals. are the real victims, free them, stealing should be legal, etc., etc.. Like why? What's driving them? Well, I think there's there's. there are those who are pushed for. these initiatives who are just. pure sociopaths and they are not.

really committed ideologically. They they get they galvanize. around it because it's in. vogue and it allows them access. to money like Soros money. George Gascon is probably the. greatest example of this. I'm not an ideologue. ideologue, by the way, a very bad, stupid lawyer from. what everyone says, but not an. ideologue. A sociopath is how he's been. described to me as have some. of these other rogue prosecutors. But then there's the true believers. And within criminal justice.

reform, I think it's fair to say. there is a spectrum of. of radicalism. You know, some initiatives. I think. have like good intentions. You know, we we do want. rehabilitation in society. We do want the. opportunity to. build one's life back by a bad. choice. Like that's like that's a. Christian value, of course, but.

It goes much, much deeper than that. And I think that as you as you peel. back the layers of criminal justice. reform and look at what they're. specifically advocating for, a range is not only from mass. incarceration. solutions, but also, frankly, defunding the police, pacifying the police. through, you know, ideas like. community policing, in which police. are sort of characterized now.

as social workers rather than. in law. Enforcement, emasculating them. Turning or smashing into one. literally emasculated. Yeah, literally. I mean, women now make a. huge portion of overall cops. And, you know, there's. the cops I've talked to. who are like, you know, serious, serious, like. threatening figures. But but good guys. They if they see the police. today as absolute a joke. And I can tell you and.

I'll get into it about how bad. it's getting at the LAPD. and other law enforcement agencies. But through erosion because of these. policies and morale erosion. But back to criminal justice reform, I think that it's really important. to strip away euphemisms. And when I was. evaluating, you know, the tenets of this. of this movement, it became. apparent to me that. not only did it place.

the offender above. victim. It it fundamentally. resulted in. The the diffusion of crime. and the spreading of suffering. as a policy choice. So as laws like. Trying to wreck other. people's neighborhoods, safe. neighborhoods, affluent. neighborhoods, white neighborhoods. crash with crime on purpose. because they were orderly,

affluent and white. That's right. And I can tell you, like, for instance, the. So that's not a figment of the. imagination. That's a that's an. actual choice. You think? Well, I get for sure. BLM activists say that. stealing, mass stealing of. retail stores. is a form of reparation. This is a crime. I call this crime equity, this concept. And it's not even. something said like in jest or.

flippantly. It's actually a very deep. and dark idea. with historical analogs. I think particularly. pertinent would be what happened. in Rhodesia, where criminals are released from. prisons in mass and sent. on essentially. government sanctioned. theft of. white farmers land and. other property. And this is a form of, you know, kind of anarchic.

tyranny, right? So this is crime. as a means. of totalitarian control. and as a tool. of racial grievance. It is a it is a crime. as a means to. redress historical. grievances through collective. punishment. So we're mad about what your. ancestors did. So we hope your daughter gets raped, correct? Yeah. That's about as evil as it gets.

Yeah. And I will give you. some example. The second in charge. at the L.A. County District Attorney's office, the chief of staff, a woman named. Tiffany Black, now. who, you know, is proud to have been a rioter. and looter in the 1992. Rodney King was a prosecutor. She came from the public defender's. office. Gascon is filled the. Way, but she is currently a.

prosecutor. She is Gascon's chief of. staff. Wow. She was a rioter. Yeah. She she's written about the. Race riots of 92 track. where people were murdered for their. skin color. Yeah. Asians in particular. Yeah. But in whites. Yeah. Yeah. But lots of Koreans. Yeah. Yeah. Well there. we'll, we'll get to the. issue of Asians being targeted. because that's another, that's. another phenomenon that's taking. place. But Tiffany Black now.

is a avowed. racist. She wears a t shirts. that she's posted on. Instagram that says like. police are trained to kill us. Right. And she is effectively. number two at the DA's office. when Santa Monica and the west. side of Los Angeles was being. firebombed during the George Floyd. riots and. citizens were bemoaning this. That's the white part of town just. for those who went from town.

Tiffany Black now said, go cry me a river. Allowed. She put she posted on on like. Twitter or Facebook. That's really scary. Well, I mean, this is this is who. Gascon has surrounded himself with. So Tiffany Black. And it's a great example of. like, a true believer. Gascon No, he's too. stupid to be a believer like Kamala. Harris. I find it very ridiculous when. people say Kamala Harris is a.

Bolshevik because she'd be a. Bolshevik. You actually have to know. about philosophy or you have to know. about dialectics. She'd have to make it through Das. Kapital. Kamala Harris only knows Kamala. Harris, although she doesn't even. know that because we can't figure. out what her name is. She's a child, obviously. She's a tool of greater. power. Obviously, I mean, she went. out there by accident because of her. skin color. So the laws continue to get. worse from there. And in 2020, that was the catalyst. So the George Floyd well. Just to be sure, linger on this for.

one second. Just to be clear, you. Believe that. Crime is not an accident. Crime is a result of intentional. policy. Crime is the point of the. policy. And part of the aim is to. punish people for their skin. color with crime. Of course. Not. Of course. That's the sickest. thing I've heard this year. Well, it it's extremely. evil. And it is it is. demonstrably the case because. these laws were so. they they were.

so obviously negligent. and reckless. Everyone knew. All the law enforcement agencies, all the district attorneys. came out against these kinds of. initiatives saying that. these the result is going to be. dangerous criminals on the street, dangerous criminals on the street. This is our future. And they passed it anyway. The voters passed it. Kamala Harris wrote the language, you know, and again, Prop 47 is. called the Safe Schools and.

Neighborhoods Act. Right. So the idea is that the. funding say budget savings. from moving for not. classifying these larcenies as. felonies and. end and thereby being. misdemeanors which are not ever, ever enforced or prosecuted, would save millions of dollars that. would then be redirected to schools. Well, do the schools get great in. California? The schools are worse than ever.

Are the neighborhoods safer? No, of course not. Like the the L.A. is as as. L.A. is not as quite as violent. as it was. during the 1990s, which was at the. peak of the the drug war between. the Bloods and the Crips. However, we're getting. there. And the difference. between now and then. is that back then, gangsters. were killing each other. They were killing each other for,

ah, you know, who owned what. street corner to sell drugs. Right now, the violence. is turned against all of us. The tax payers, the people who. created the society and sustain it. with their labor. Yeah. So that's that is how. I think, because the the gangs did. not create Los Angeles. or the United States or anything of. value in this country at all. They create nothing. They only destroy. Just to be clear. And so while all of us are equal in. the eyes of God and all of us are. equal as American citizens, we're.

not all equal in our effects. Some of us are creators and others. are destroyers. And you're saying. that the destroyers are now killing. the creators? I'm saying that destroyers run. California man. And I can tell you, that's. not hyperbole. And. Really in many ways, California. is actually under the. southern tier of the Mexican drug. cartels. And this happened. primarily.

California is under the sovereignty. of the Mexican sovereignty. Sovereignty is this idea. that a one power. exerts influence on another. and allows some autonomy. of the subordinate. power. It's often been used in like. geopolitical analysis to. like, for instance, describe how. Rome a Roman Empire. administered Gaul. Right, exactly. So so there's a semblance. of autonomy, but.

there is still ultimately a power. that is answer to. And the reason that the Mexican drug. cartels, I think, qualify. for that is because sometime. around 2010, all this bad stuff happened. 2010. And if I may even say, like, you know, when we last spoke about. the trans issue that. also really got into effect in 2010, it's peak Obama ism. So what it is. But in any event. So I think in retrospect, we can say. that Obama was a destroyer, that the.

intent was to subvert and destroy. the United States and that some. people call that early they were. derided as crazy or racist. They weren't either one of those. things that were prescient. I always took him completely deadly. serious when he said he was going to. change America. And he did? Yes. Maybe forever. But in any. event, around 2010, there was a hostile takeover. of the narcotics distribution.

market in California, which had been otherwise the domain. of black gangs. Native born, black. People, legacy black gangs. had run our colleagues. and dope trade. Can I just say at least, you know, even if they're drug dealers or gang. members, they're still Americans. And let me tell you. To share a common history. And actually, actually, there they. have they have principles. That's kind of the point. I was making. At least they're part. of this country for sure.

I'll tell you in a minute how. principled they are. Maybe we even agree with them on. some things because. I suspect reverting the same way. this November. Well, on that out there. Well. So when the cartels when. the cartels moved into California, they said to all the black gangs, if you sell dope without our. permission, we will, quote, cut your. head off. And they meant that. literally. They meant that literally. So every black gang. had to then find an alternative. revenue stream or get their. dope supply from the drug, from the.

cartels, from Hispanic gangs, because all Hispanic gangs. in California kind of operate. as a as a. extension of of. gangs above them, which is. that which are based in prison. And and that's another issue. But the. you know, the highest level gang. in California is called the Mexican. Mafia. And it's a prison. It's a prison gang. But this and this gang. is the ultimate authority, really,

on all Latino. gangs in the state. Are 2 to 300,000 gang. members in California. 63% to 300,000. Yes. The first for reference, the U.S. National Guard has 250,000. members. There's 1.2 million gang members in. the United States. And in California, 63. Much bigger than the active duty. U.S. military. Yeah. Thanks. I think so.

And 63%. are Latino. So as a result of this. volume and numerical. advantage, they control the prisons. So the Mexican mafia, which is. actually like, you. know, a legacy organization, it has. a long history. How. Long history for 50 years. Anyway. And they are incredibly powerful. And and as as it was told. to me by this incredible.

L.A. County sheriff, sergeant who and. I'm not going to mention the names. of any my sources. for their protection and safety, but. this gentleman. said to me that he was. head of Major crimes bureau for the. L.A. County Sheriffs. And 25 year veteran. of the force now in private. security. And he said to me that. The prisons rule the street. So effectively the criminal.

economy of California, which is in the tens. of billions, maybe 100 billion, passes through California's. state prisons. So that is. a prima facie indictment. of the failure of our prisons, because from prison, the Mexican. mafia is ordering. hits, running drug trades, human trafficking, you name. it. And they do.

so as proxies of. the Mexican drug cartels in. Mexico. Yes. So this is they're. Not in Mexico. They're in California. But this is exactly what destroyed. or Salvador and has wrecked. Mexico. And Guatemala is. drug gangs operating. their leaders operating from prison. With impunity. With impunity. So let's ask you to decide. No, because I can't resist. So in those in Mexico, Guatemala. and Salvador and probably other. countries as well, the drug gangs. are effectively religious.

organizations based on Satanism. Is that true in California as well? Well, I will tell you that the. the law enforcement and prosecutors. that I talked to would say that. the illegal alien gang. element is characterized by extreme. violence. Right? Like extreme. Like like ice violence. Right. Unnecessary violence. Not just shooting people to death as. the black gangs. Historically. There's a lot of. Reasons for that. I mean, I in my. in my research, I.

couldn't help but sort of trace. like the anthropological and. historical basis. for this extreme violence. And we're back to the Aztecs, aren't. we? Well, of course. Yeah, of course, of course. Because you have to consider. the fact that we've seen. so-called narco terrorists, narco. empires many, many times. since the 70s. Yeah. And, yeah, they killed. a lot of people, but they shot them. Or they used car bombs. or basic kind.

of mafia style hits. And that is also the case for. the Italian mafia. The Genovese who sold heroin. They didn't behead. Anyone. And that's the case for. the Triads. Exactly. The case for the Russians, even. Yes. But in Mexico and in. Central America, what we. see is what. I call cultural atavism. And it's the notion that. there are certain cultural. traits and. practices that survive.

the generations and are amalgamated. into a new society. And Mexico is a very. I mean, it's a wonderful place in. many, many ways. I agree. I love it. But. It is a fusion of indigenous, you know, indigenous people and. Spanish, Catholic and. European. Right. And many of. those traits. from that survived. the Aztec period. And I will tell you, the the level.

of brutality of the Aztecs. is is beyond belief. Yes. They killed 200,000. people a year at least. The sacrifice. Yes. Tex were so committed to. human sacrifice and not just. sacrifice, but the but the torture. of living people and to. Death and children, by the. Way. Of course. And not just the Aztecs, but the. Maya and the Inca. Also that it does in. the end, as much as you sort of hate. the conquistadors because they were. brutal and all that, you root for. the conquistadors with everything.

you have. I will tell you, the Aztecs. worshiped a lightning. and rain God called flower. And when there were droughts, they would. they would sacrifice their children. And they believed that the tears. of their children as they. walked up the steps of the pyramid. to have their hearts ripped out. would be taken by the gods. and transformed transmogrified. into rain.

Yeah. So this is the culture. You see this with with in some. Native American cultures in North. America as well, where it's not. simply a matter of killing people, but of prolonging their suffering. Yes. As an offering to to. the spirit world. Well, the the. So this is not a guess. By the way. What's been written foretells emerge. from this from this kind of. amalgamation culture. And they. they have altars. They have ulcers of with. human skulls and other. kind of icons that are indigenous.

to major America. There's even a cartel. icon or idol, I should say, called Santa muerte, which is, you know, you see a lot of cartel. tattoos and so forth. And, you know, Ms13. is even more demonic, although that was born in. California. In West Angeles. Yes. The way like it came from. Los Angeles and El Salvador and. destroyed El Salvador. Exactly. So but witchcraft is at the heart of.

this. And I don't think that's. incidental. It's not. Animism. Yeah, that's right. Or exactly. But it's a religious cult. as well as a business organization. Exactly. And that's why I feel. it's so critical to understand this. dynamic. It's not just a. historically interesting facet, but the fact is that we. have brought in. millions, 12 million. migrants, many of them coming from. this this triangle right. in Central America.

And it's really important to. understand. what who are these people? And especially, let's say. the 2 million got away's, which is often cited as the. pure criminal element amongst. the migrant invasion. And because. there was all migrants, you know, that are looking for economic. benefits or whatever, they turn. themselves into ice. And Tom Homan told me this.

directly. They turned themselves. into ice. And under the Biden. administration, ice as. home input, it has been reduced to. instead of enforcement changing. diapers and making sandwiches. But for those 2 million that. that evade ice, they are doing so so. that they are not put into the. system and they are pure gangsters. and they're coming from. cultures that display. heads on bridges and.

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where people fretted about for years. is like not a thing. Anymore. No. It went somewhere else. They had to find other alternative. revenue streams, other verticals. And what was the well, what was the safest alternative? And also highly lucrative. residential burglaries and retail. theft. So all of the retail theft that you. see that we see in the media. of these, you know, Nordstrom's. being. Right. Looted. Yeah. By hordes of thieves. That's not just like incidental.

individual acts. of like larceny. Right. That is all organized. by gangs And. the market for the. resell. The fencing is called for. in California. Maybe just even Los Angeles. is like $10 billion. Nationwide retail thefts. are $100 billion. Where's it resold?

It's resold through. Fencers. And eBay? Yeah, eBay. It's, you know, like. pawn shops like. But I think primarily on the. Internet or to, you know, even perhaps other. companies. You know, it's it's it's it's. it passes through multiple. layers. Right. And, you know, these. fencing operations. are extremely lucrative. So so there's that angle to it.

And it's resulted. in the emergence of trends. within these kinds of. burglaries. called flocking or jogging. or knock knock burglaries. or follow home burglaries. And basically it. it's, you know, flocking. is a term that refers. to. penetrating like a safe. neighborhood, blending into. that neighborhood, targeting.

a particular person. that they've perhaps. through social media, identified as. potentially wealthy, and then. going on missions into these. neighborhoods to. to rob them, tie them up, home invasions, whatever. But what's quite interesting is that. there are some gangs that. have become so good at it. that they now actually act as. consultants to other gangs. to teach them how to flock.

So what does that look like from the. victim's perspective? Well, it could look like getting. tied up. It could look like you're. not home and everything's you come. home and everything is gone. A knock, knock burglary is. just like what it sounds like. Criminals will, you know, knock, knock on a door. If someone's home, maybe they. don't proceed with the crime, but. sometimes they do. And I can tell you a story that I. heard. that really, truly shocked me.

It took place also in Santa Monica, which is where I'm from, that there was a. case of a single woman. in her home. It's in a nice part of. Santa Monica, and. age is two guys. Gangsters attempt to knock, knock. on her and they. breach the door and. her dogs attack. these guys so badly. that they. the altercation moves into. the street and they are.

wounded by the dogs. She calls the police. Police show up and. the gangsters claim that. their dogs attacked. them and the cops call. animal control. And she moved. out to Texas after that. That's crazy. But it's also. kind of in miniature. The bigger problem, which is in. California, the state is on the side.

of the criminal against the wolves. So if I if I can turn it to like. a personal anecdote, about a year ago, my. home in Santa Monica, which it's an affluent. neighborhood, but like my house is. for sure the most dilapidated. on on the block it's been. in my family, you know, through my. great grandparents. My brother and I lived there. and own it. And. in September of last year,

we were subject to. two home invasion robberies in a. row. Although I should say technically, these are what's called a high. profile burglary, which means. that residents are in. the in the property when. the burglary takes place, but don't. necessarily confront the burglar. If if they confront them, it's like. a home invasion. So there's a little distinction. where there was. Someone home when the. My brother and I were home asleep in. the house when when the burglar.

came in and through. brazenly through, you know, we. were kind of naive because we. thought, you know, Santa Monica is. the greatest place in the world, right? So like, we had. a our alarm system was out. was not like on in the back, you know, back patio doors unlocked. So how he knew that, I. don't know. But it was a well-lit house. You know, there's there's houses. on either side. signs indicating like an. alarm system.

and yet that did not. stop him. And so. we woke up the next day. and my brother was in the main. house. We have a little casita, a. kind of converted garage where. I happened to be during. when this took place. And I came into the house and. the door back door was wide open and. I went up to my room and. my my entire room was destroyed. Every every valuable item. I've ever had in my life.

was taken heirlooms from my. grandparents, gifts. from my parents for graduation. It's. really just like really. like token memories, you know? And so it was pretty. devastating. And we call the police and. riot police. They showed up 12 hours. later. They said that when they finally. came that the delay was due to the. fact that they're dealing with so. many homeless overdoses.

So they just. for fingerprints and say this. is going to be this is a serious. crime and we will take it seriously. and don't worry. Well, the next night. it happens again. The next. Night. The next night? Yeah, the next night he dismantles. a window in our dining room, which is also my office. And he. he took whatever was left, which was. nothing. There's nothing left. I mean, the guy would steal things.

like Easter eggs, like sunglasses, like a letter opener. in addition to really valuable. stuff. And I believe. he came back a third night. because I. saw a car lurking. in the middle of the night outside. of our house. And I saw a figure in this vehicle. that ultimately matched the. description of of the perpetrator. who was caught.

about a about a month later. And the story behind. this is, I think, really. quite interesting and was the reason. why I undertook the research that I. have done, because. the guy who did this to us was. an illegal alien, a dreamer, actually an Ms. 13 gang member. with a a convicted felon. with seven years in prison. in California state prison for. violent crimes. He was deported by Trump.

administration, Homeland security. immediately after. after getting out of prison. In fact, he notes, I. read the whole police report of this. in the course of like my trying to. understand what took place. And it's it's. funny, he comments to the to the. cops during his interrogation that. as soon as he was released from. state prison, Ice immediately. picked him up and deported him back. to El Salvador immediately.

And while he was in El Salvador, he had his. Ms13 face tattoo removed. And he was in El Salvador for about. a year or so and then went. back, then traveled to France. And for whatever reason, the guy had a that his his his. day job was as a carpenter. And, you know, actually his. primary language was English. So I guess we can be thankful for. that. Thank you, Lindsey Graham and the.

Dream Act. But he he. sneaks back into the US. in 2021. under during the Biden wave. of of migration. and he proceeds to go. on a rampage. He he does have a kid too at. this time so we now have a. US citizen to deal with. And he he robs. a dozen houses in the same. manner all over L.A. County, but also in Ventura. County. He robs the home of a judge,

a very well-respected. criminal judge who presided. over the Michael Jackson death. trial. It's funny, the police report notes. that he took the judge's. small wristed. Seiko watch. and just like the guy would. took anything and everything. he took. You know, I saw the police reports. that he was taking wedding rings. He took a Catholic rosary. box.

Like there was nothing. that was above. limit. He, you know, again, like he stole memories. from people and he. did so callously and with. impunity. And he was eventually. arrested. In Simi Valley, which is in Ventura County, which is. tougher on crime overall. than in L.A. County, but not by. much. And when he was arrested.

by a joint task force. in the middle of the day, he was. in his vehicle with his wife. and child in the backseat. The police found on him a loaded, stolen Kimber handgun. with hollow point bullets. They found body armor, which, by the. way, is a federal crime. because he's a convicted felon. You cannot have body armors, convicted felons for federal crime. They found they found strange.

things like a. bachelor's degree diploma from. Armenia. Currency. Foreign currency, knives. Like it went on and on and on and. on. He was clearly, clearly. a violent person. And when he was brought into. interrogation, the officer. assigned to him started. by saying thank you for not opening. fire on us. We really appreciate that. And he said, Don't thank me because. I was planning on killing.

you and for sure going, Erik's on you, whatever that means, and taking my last stand. Had it not been for the fact that my. wife and kids were in the car. because he said I'm never going back. to jail. So fast forward to his. his arraignment in Ventura County. He was convicted on one count of. one of these charges, maybe two. counts. But in any event, he's sentenced to. two years in jail and a $300. fine, and he'll probably serve less.

than that. $300 fine. Yeah. Did you get any of your stolen. goods back? No. No. The way I was notified was because. he had my. My driver's license and credit. cards. And so as part of. the investigation, they called all. the other victims. They also relayed this information. to Santa Monica police, Santa Monica police. Despite the fact that they had a. forensic team come in and. swab and, you know, take this really. seriously, like CSI style. stuff.

The assigned detective on my case. has still a year, more. than a year later, not even called. me or attempted to interview me. They have no interest. And I've followed up many, many, many times. They just don't care. They don't care because there's no. incentive to care. Because these crimes are considered. property crimes. In Los Angeles County. Even though you were asleep in your. home when this guy with. the history of violence enters. your home with you in it. And if if my brother had. been awake and woken up, I think.

there's a high chance of a violent. interaction that would have taken. place. I mean, I'm sure he was had. had a gun or a weapon on him when he. did this. There's no there's no reason to. doubt that. So it's a miracle, actually, that we're okay. But I was so shocked by what. happened. And, of course, after the. second night, you just lose sense. of like, reality, like how is this. happening like this? Am I being targeted? Like. And the cops really.

had no explanation for this. I think that this guy. thought we were an easy mark because. it was an old house. There's still a handicapped parking. sign in front of the house. You know, it's from my grandparents. time. So he probably presumed. that there were old people living in. the house, you know, and predators. go for the week. And. so I, in an attempt to try and like, intellectualize and frame.

this experience, which still haunts. us to this day. I mean, you never feel quite the. same in the home. You know, and it's a terrible thing. when like a home that's been in your. family for almost like four. generations. is stained and violated. It's almost feels like an assault, like a sexual assault, even like. it's it's a very, very strange. feeling. I mean, burglary. Got you. And.

and it's made all. the worse by the. fact that victims. are revictimized. by the justice system in California. And so as I started to. talk to. prosecutors and law enforcement. agents, law enforcement officers. about how. this could have happened, what is. going on in the state, is. this common? Like, how could it be common? I spoke to a.

very, very well respected. victims rights advocate and. veteran deputy district attorney. for L.A. County, a liberal, by the way, named Kathleen Kennedy. And in the course of my interview. and telling this story, she said. This was so important. about your story. Is that it's so relatable. And I said relatable. Like, how is this in any way. relatable that an Ms.

13 gang member, a convicted. felon, dreamer, illegal. alien, could break into. your house brazenly two. nights in a row, probably armed, threaten to kill police officers. and get two years in prison. And this is relatable. So if that is the case. Then the system. is fundamentally broken. And in fact, I would go so far as to. say that the entire.

civilization is based around the. social contract. And the tenets of the social. contract is that. we we we surrender. certain freedoms. To the government, to the state, which is supposed to have a monopoly. on violence. And the state in turn. provides protection to us. from the anarchic state of. nature, as Hobbes put it. Sorry. Not just in turn, but. in exchange for.

Yes, it's a transact transaction. That's a. Transaction. We're buying safety. and peace of mind in exchange. for our money and. some of our autonomy. Exactly. And went and went. And that contract has been breached. and broken in California. So at that point, it's just it's. just theft. Well, didn't engage in it. negates the entire legitimacy of the. government. That's exactly right. Well, how's this for crazy? Has there ever been a more volatile. time in American politics? Not in our lifetimes.

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overwhelmingly nonwhite. That's. not a racist statement to. acknowledge. It's a fact and. is taken by the Department of. Census every ten years. And it's a massive change. It's an incredibly abrupt change. In fact, it's a bigger change than. probably any civilization. Ever. In history has experienced except. during war, during invasion. So, like, what. is that's a meaningful fact. and have that happen?

Well, i'll give you a statistic. in the l.a. L.A. l.a. School district, LAUSD. 195,000 students. are English learners. There's 90 languages officially. spoken in LAUSD. 27% of California. is foreign born. Of the 27%. Of the entire city is foreign born. Mind you, that doesn't mean like. China. First generation, which.

adds probably makes a majority. of that point. In in 1990 it. was 20%, which is. still high. That was very much because. of the of the Reagan amnesty. from the 80s. 86. 86. But today it's 27%. And the national average, I think. is like 13%, something like that. Maybe, maybe a little higher. Much higher now. Much higher because they're. illegals. But California is by far.

has the greatest foreign presence. in the in the state. And I think that, you know, the reason for this is. that we. long ago, you know, and long before. these laws that I've been discussing. and we'll discuss. Enacted policies that incentivized. illegal aliens to come into the. state because they would get. welfare benefits, they would get. basically Right.

More rights than the citizens. In fact, I will tell you that. junior prosecutors I talked to. for this for this this research. say that under George Gascon. and this also is applied. to other, you know, other. jurisdictions, including. actually under Kamala's. policies. But in L.A. County, illegal aliens who commit certain. crimes are given special plea deals.

that would never, ever, ever be. given to a U.S. citizen for the specific person. purpose of protecting. them from ice. So to me, that's a due process. violation. So I do think anybody who advocates. for not just. illegal immigration or mass. immigration, but any immigration. of any kind has to account. first for California. Yeah. So here's the state in. which it's been tried to the. greatest possible extent, and it. went from the best state to the. worst state. Now, maybe you could say immigration.

had nothing to do with that. But you can't say immigration didn't. change California. And the fact is, California's become. a much worse place to live. And the immigration numbers from. California prove that. 6 million have left California in. the last ten years. Okay. So these are only $7,000,000 billion. in revenue this year. Losses result. Right. So these are not. like opinions. These this is not, you know, crazed right wing ideology. These are just these are just. numbers about our biggest and most. important state, the biggest economy. in the I. So.

Or was part of that. Also Tucker is the. deindustrialization of California. For sure. There are lots of factors. I'm just saying, if immigration is. good, then how about you explain. California before you impose any. more of it on me? Of course. Well, California is is. a warning not. just to the nation, but. to civilization. And what's the warning? The warning is that. oligarchy. is always at your.

doorstep and in reach, and if it's not vigilantly. guarded against, it will consume. you. It will terrorize you. It will control every aspect of. your life and reduce you to. a state of misery. Because California has now. stratified between. into something that, you know, I. think Victor Davis Hanson has very. eloquently discussed. that, you know, over. the years, which is that California. has actually regressed.

into some kind of political. economy that is. reflecting neo feudalism, even where where you have. a very small, extremely rich, the. the most powerful, super rich in the world. and an underclass of. serfs. And the middle class. have left and are leaving more. and more costs of living. Other reasons? Deindustrialization,

you know, the overall disintegration. of the of the state which the elites. are insulated from. Of course their private security. Of course. And and private schools. or tutors, everything. And so the aristocracy. rules the state. And yet in California, because language is manipulated. in almost Orwellian fashion. Oligarchy has become. to mean. Progressive. Yeah. Or quote, democracy or.

democracy. I guess what and I've. heard Victor say that thing and I've. not had a long as he said it. and not to be picayune about it, but. if I could just defend feudalism. against what we're seeing in. California right now, the idea of. feudalism, while repugnant. to the American mind and my mind, was still based on. mutual need, the guy who owned the property, the Lord. Of. The manor, was dependent.

upon his serfs. as they were dependent upon him. I mean, it was a symbiotic. relationship for sure. So if the serfs died, he became impoverished. Well, the symbiotic relationship. here is that the serfs provide. electoral hegemony. for sure. But I guess what I'm saying. is, over time, a feudal family had a built in. incentive to, at the bare. minimum, make sure that their. serfs weren't dying. of penalties.

Yeah. Whereas I don't see that. happening in California. Doesn't they have no skin in the. game? 2022 to 2023, there were 11,400. fentanyl overdose, the highest. in the country in. California, in California. So, yeah, I guess they don't. Maybe to put a finer point on it, the people who whereas the. the Lord in feudalism needed the. labor of the serfs. The Lords of California do not need. the Labor side of their state. because. The, because the industries are. service industries or they're tech.

and they require a very, very small. number of people to directly. Right. And that's part of the. deindustrialization financialization. of the state that which. provided for middle. class jobs and opportunity. that is increasingly fleeting. and fleeing in in. the state and especially. in Southern California. And as a result of that, especially the exodus of aerospace. and defense industries from the.

state, we have, you know, Republican. voters have left, and L.A. County, which used to be a. Republican stronghold, became a blue stronghold. And at that point, California. became a one party state. And one party states are. are characterized by corruption. Yes, inefficiency, psychosis, I. would argue, and all sorts. of evils.

And ultimately, it's. it is the antithesis. of democracy. And, of course, that is. exactly what these. people claim, that they are. defending. Democracy, exclamation. point. Yeah. No, the ironies are manifold, which comes back at one moment. I never thought about that. So you said one party. states about corruption. Of course. Inefficiency. All true psychosis. Yeah. Why do you say that? Well, I think because of the laws.

that we seen put into effect, the laws were so obviously. going to. engender criminality. across the state. Yeah, right. It's it's like it in law, you know, in torts, we. you know, the idea of negligence. is the for foreseeability. of harm. Right? And that is what really triggers. a liability. Well, you. Knew this could happen, but you let. it happen anyway. And and so so California's.

government and and frankly, uneducated voters have. inflicted a grievous. tort upon the state. And I think that it is so reckless. that to me, it is psychotic. It is a form of psychotic, sociopathic behavior. And certainly many of the people. implementing these policies are. raving psychopaths. A a a. really impressive.

young deputy. district attorney in Alameda County. said to me, with respect to. the kind of progressive. D.A. of that of that county. named Pamela Pryce, that. she is, quote, a raging psychopath. who wants to burn down civilization. And I will tell you that every. prosecutor that I spoke to and I. spoke to ten. over the course of. 30 hours of interviews, and I also spoke to, you know, equal.

number of cops. But the one commonality. that that every single prosecutor. I talked to you mentioned was that. there seems to be a motivation by. the true believers of burning. the system down. They are Jacobins. They are radical anarchists. They want to hurt you. They want to kill. you. I mean, I'm going right to the. spiritual explanation for that. But is there another like what. could motivate that?

I mean, look, you. know, if you're if you're asking I. mean, of course, like personal. power, right? So, like George Gascon is not. per se, you know, it's been told. to me by people who would know him. that he's not particularly. ideological. He was a he was he was a lousy. LAPD cop that apparently. everyone hated. He moved to Arizona. at some point, got a. law, a law degree at accredited, an unaccredited law school.

And through the you know, the machinations of as of. the one party state, which of course. elevates people based entirely. on do you you know, has this. identity check mark been met or. not? Carmel is the avatar. of that. But he ends up as. district attorney of San Francisco. and appointed by Gavin Newsom. and mayor succeeding Kamala. Harris. And he follows the money. You know, Steve Cooley puts this.

very eloquently follows the money of. thesaurus money down to L.A. to run to run for four for. a district attorney in 2020. And it just so happened that, you know, this was the. perfect, ripe opportunity. given the riots of. the George Floyd incident. and the mood of the nation. at the time, particularly in. California, when the. most radical policies and. people could. rise to positions that.

was otherwise, you know, unimaginable. Gascon has has. absolutely decimated Los. Angeles. He has stacked. his office with public defenders. He has he has put in directives. the first day of of of. his tenure that include, of course, no cash bail, no enhancements, no. no juveniles tried at adult. court,

obviously no death penalty. And he he. has also there's this is. particularly insidious. There is a parole committee. called Chase. What I forget exactly what that. stands for, but basically. it's an opportunity for. victims to appear. with their offenders. who are up for parole and to. make a statement. You know what? And then this committee will decide.

on whether or not to grant. parole. And under Gascon, prosecutors, who typically. would accompany. these victims for this, you know, frankly, an ordeal, they're, you know, seeing your. perpetrator again, as in a rape. case. Imagine with a trauma that. is. Well, Gascon said prosecutors. are no longer allowed to accompany. victims. And, in fact, what they are now,

the victims are now required to do. is to write a persuasive essay. submitted to the committee. And the committee is stacked. entirely of public defenders. Come on. Seriously. That's grotesque. Can I ask something that occurs as. you're speaking about gas control? You've said that. All, organized criminal activity. in the state of California is run in. effect by the Mexican drug cartels. through prisons. And I've heard. people mention.

that before. So let's just assume that's true. Sounds like it is true. You just wrote a book on it. How could Gascon not know that? I mean, Gascon, it's not clear what Gascon knows of. anything, but. I'm just saying the issue in places. where the word drug cartels. run things, which is a lot of Latin. America. They also run the politics. Well, let me put it this way. even more maybe. Relevant to the time that we're in, I would say. How did Kamala Harris.

not know that? Because Kamala Harris is as. as attorney general of California. in 2012, under the auspices of so-called. budget cutting, budget reform, eliminated a 100 year. old agency called the Bureau of. Narcotic Enforcement. And it is widely. held amongst law enforcement. officers. And and on the prosecution. side that this was a very important. task force for fighting organized. crime and had been doing so since.

prohibition and then became. a major force in disrupting. narcotics trade in the state. She disbanded it. Well, because she's for narcotics, she wants a drug addicted. population. She does whatever she's told. But I'm just saying, look, these drug cartels are powerful. because they're ruthless. They're a cult based on. witchcraft. But they're also really rich. Of course, they're their Fortune 500. company. Exactly. So at. some point, like in Mexico, they're in control still because.

they've paid off all the politicians. Well, is that happening in. California yet? No. It's not clear to me whether. that that's happening to the San. I'm certainly as expressed. by Tom Homan when I spoke. to him. You know, he says that you. it's very hard often to distinguish. the Mexican elite from the Mexican. drug cartels like they. are. This is a there's an inter. woven of access. Yeah. And of course, like in parts.

of Mexico, that the cartels. exert actual, like, authority. and governance over certain regions. Sure. Madre, for. Example. But it's it's not really clear to me. if they are influencing politicians. or, you know, through, you know, grift or through. bribes or anything. I'm not I'm not clear on that. Yeah. It may be just a matter. If not, it's just a matter of. I'll tell you that the. a director of the LAPD. union.

said to me that. the cartels are increasingly. committing ransom. attacks in San Diego. of high profile families. And this is not getting reported. Kidnaping, as is so common in Latin. America. Yeah. They take him across the. border and. so special, like security. forces made up of X. seals and whatnot have to go. into Mexico and extract them. This is now apparently rampant.

It's insane, but it shouldn't. surprise us. That's a fact of life. in Mexico City. Human trafficking is also. a very, like. serious problem in the state. And it's, of course, more lucrative. in some ways than the drugs, because. they can be used as over and over. and over again as sex slaves. Right. So it's like it's like a. recurring revenue stream. Although fentanyl should not be. under my under, you know, underplayed in any way.

Fentanyl produces like 200,000%. margin. Yeah. And fentanyl, according. to the. top one of the top gang enforcement. detectives in. L.A. County based out of Compton. Ex-Special Forces guy, black guy. Incredible man. He said to me, Fentanyl, it's so ubiquitous. It's like salt. And if you buy a pill off the. street, it has fencing all in.

it. And that's why, you know, in fact, it's so deadly and so. dangerous that even the cartels. are thinking that maybe we need to. come up with something not quite as. lethal because we're killing our. customers. Curse has since you mentioned. Compton. So Compton was the largest. black population. west of the Mississippi since. the Second World War. I was just there. It's Spanish speaking. So you've had, you know, the black population of huge parts. of L.A. moved east.

in the Inland Empire, murdered. in huge numbers by. newcomers. And I've never heard and. Maxine Waters supposedly represents. Compton or she doesn't live there. But I've never heard a single black. politician in California mention the. fact that illegal immigration has, like, completely overturned life. for a lot of black people in. California. Not one time I've heard. anybody say that. Why? What about your corrupt picks? Yeah, I mean, obviously. But I think it's I think. it's due to the fact that.

the power is now. the locus of power is with. the newcomers. Of course. It's just so it's not in their. interest to ever comment on these. things. But if your job is to represent your. your constituents or your people. When have Democrats ever represented. black people? Fair. Fair. I know. It's just I'm it it's, like. shocking. This could happen and. everyone's watching it or people are. paying attention or seeing it, especially if you're from California. like, well, this is very different. from what it was ten years ago and. nobody says a word.

You know, it's interesting. So in in prison, the prison. system, the black gangs, every it's all obviously racially. segregated. But the black gang. is called the. Black Guerilla Family. And again, according to this gang enforcement. specialist that I spoke to, he said like, well, for the. Mexicans, it's about money, money. in power for the Black Guerilla. family, their enemies, the government. And like their political.

And I thought you said, well, at. least they have an ethos. No, I agree. It's just interesting. You know, California state prisons. are totally racially segregated. In fact, they were ordered. desegregated at one point. And then the prisoners complained. The black prisoners complain because. there's so many. They were getting killed. Yeah. I mean, look, the fact that this. sort of level of criminality can. exist within the prisons, it's such. an indictment of. of the system overall. I mean, it's it's a joke. And, in fact, all these cops I talk. to say the gangsters laugh.

at us. They have no fear. of us. They do not fear the state. Then how are the prison guards, the. highest paid state employees in. California? Because public sector unions have. enormous power in Sacramento. But I mean, if I. think that that was always true, prison guards were always the. highest paid. I mean, it's a dangerous job. I agree. I'm not I know prison guards. I've always liked them. But on the other hand, if your job. is to guard the prison and you're. getting paid more than anybody else. working for the state in California.

and the gangs run. the prisons, and that's like, there's something wrong with that. look. Obviously, there's enormous. corruption such that phones. are smuggled in. A communication network obviously. exists because how are you able to. manage a criminal empire from within. jail? How are you able to order executions. and hits within jail? So there it's porous. But I think the bigger issue. ultimately and this is why I don't. think it's the prison guards fault. It's the state's fault. We, the.

Gangsters, do not fear. the law. They do not fear the law. And they they commit crimes with. impunity. They're committing increasingly gun. crimes within with impunity. because gun enhancements, as we talked about, no longer apply. in many cases. So gun violence has gone way up. like number of I think gun. victims in the last three years. has shot up in L.A. County like 63%. But you've got very strict gun.

control. And you're exactly right. So how hard is it for you to own a. gun in California? So I don't own a gun. I should. at this point. But. I. I understand. Like it's quite it's quite, you. know, a difficult process. And a lot of the guns. that the criminals are using are all. stolen. They're not like going to, you know, a sports shop. And by buying a. rifle. That you can get a 12 gauge for like. 400 bucks. Yeah. Mossberg But like of, like.

We thought about that. I mean, I'd love, like, one of your, like, beautiful hunting rifles. I think you're better off with a 12. gauge. Hard to miss in close. quarters. Yeah. Yeah. Easy to operate. Well, you. Know, actually, they say the cops. say the best defense against. these kinds of crimes is as a. big dog. I have a cat. Yeah, I think. I think the cops lie a lot about. guns. So with respect to Chris, they don't. want any competition. They want to be the only armed.

people on the ship. Well, they're getting competition. Well, I'm very aware of that. Cops tend in general to be against. an armed citizenry. I like cops. I always defend cops. But on this one question, you know, there are employees that can keep. their dumb opinions about guns to. themselves, as far as I'm concerned. And you have a right to have a gun. And and I have a lot of dogs. I love dogs. But a 12. gauge is more effective than a dog, I'm just telling you. For sure. Yeah, for sure. I will tell you, you know, on the. cop issue, another. factor of this story.

is the erosion of the quality. of cops. Yeah. So what about that? Who would be a cop in LA? Well, right now, we're recruiting. darker, you know, illegal aliens into the LAPD. Actually, yes. There's been five so far. And a scandal, actually. Legal aliens. Yeah. They're not allowed to own. firearms, right? They cannot have a firearm. when they're off duty. You're. You have illegal alien. cops. Yes. So if we import 7 million.

military age men into. the United States illegally, which. the Biden administration has done, it does raise the obvious question, what is this exactly? Is this a mercenary army. for the ruling class? It certainly seems like one. And if they're making them cops, then it kind of. Well. Let me tell you a. story that's not been reported. as a cover up. And it was conveyed to me by. a senior director. of the LAPD union.

It's called the L.A. Police. Protective League. And this is also a. 25 plus year veteran. of the LAPD. And detective, both his daughters. are in the LAPD is like. he he is as. plugged in to this world as anyone. In fact, he said to me. in our in our interview, he says, I. tell everyone, don't come. to L.A. We cannot protect you. But on the darker issue,

apparently in February of. of this last February, a off duty LAPD detective. encountered two members of. the Serrano gang, which. is a very violent, powerful. Latino gang in Southern California. They were attempting to. rob Still's car. So there was an exchange of gunfire. and the gangsters. got away. And in their getaway car,

they were they were apprehended. the next day. And it turns out that the car. was registered to. a darker cadet in. the LAPD. And the LAPD. quietly shuffled her either. out of the program or. just covered up entirely. But the L.A. Times did report on. this incident. Said they're hiring illegal. female illegal aliens. with kids in car with gangs. So at that point, it's just there.

I mean. It's not a legitimate I mean, at. that point, you're just like you're. begging to be overthrown, of course. Right. Do you know I mean, they have no. legitimacy. Cops are increasingly. finding alternative revenue streams. of becoming private security. officers for the elite. And a lot of the officers that I. talked to are doing that because. it's so lucrative. California has the highest. pay rates for for private security. and the highest man for private. security in the nation.

And in fact, I'll just tell you. and it's it's this is a difficult. thing to substantiate. for a variety of reasons. But I think it's it's interesting, which is that I heard from, you. know, this this L.A. County sheriff, a. former like Major crimes bureau. lead and now in private security. that he. he believe it was quite, you know, well known but quietly. known in in this. secure private security industry.

that George Soros or or. his proxies. were investing significantly in. private security businesses. This was also confirmed to me by. a former head of federal. security for LAX. and one of the top traders. on Wall Street. So, you know, again, George Soros is portfolio. and transactions are are private. It's a family office. We really don't know where the. investments are going.

But I think it's it's quite. it's quite. striking to think that there may be. other incentives beyond. simply undermining. the law for some kind of. sake of, you know, creating. a new a new world, a dystopia, of course. But nevertheless. I don't think a trader, a. financial trader, maybe one of the. greatest in the world, stops. becoming a traitor. Right now, the worship of money is.

a disease. And it's. Yeah. So I guess you go back just. a couple minutes or so. You said that Kamala. Harris dismantled the anti. narcotics task force that had been. around since Prohibition. I'm wondering, though, she has. bragged publicly about dismantling. the cartels, that doesn't seem like. the behavior of someone who's. dismantling cartel. How can she dismantle the cartels? I just I just explained that the. cartels run the state. So when she says that, I mean,

there's no truth in that at all. There's no truth in anything she. says. I mean, she is a. she is the avatar of moral. bankruptcy there represents the. state of California. You know, hollow, superficial, stupid, sociopathic. And I will tell you, everyone that I. know, Democrats who have. worked with her, including like a. very elite consulting firm that. tried to manage her campaign at one. point, they say that she is lazy. Steve Cooley also says that, by the. way, she was a lazy prosecutor.

and she is vicious. And when she doesn't. do her homework and gets. caught in, you know, word salads. because she doesn't know what she's. talking about, she then lashes. out on her staff. So she's kind of like a. even dumber version of Hillary. Clinton. And I think. fortunately, like, she's so inept. that the country is starting to. see that I pray to God because. if if Kamala Harris rises. to the level of the presidency, we.

now have basically exported. California now. nationwide. And and and as I told. you, in name of my book, it. is called Failed State. A Portrait of California in. the Twilight of Empire. I can't think of a sadder title or. more accurate one, and I'd just. refer back to my own childhood in. that state. I mean, the distressing thing is. it's not like wrecking. You know? I don't know. I don't we. mean, I could think of a couple of. states that, you know, whatever, who.

cares? California was the greatest place on. planet Earth. Horse. Yeah. So but, you. Know, it's interesting that Kamala, she actually did go after, you know, drug crimes, but. she went after people who were. smoking weed. Yeah, the easy ones. The easy ones. Right. A lot of black people. Yeah, but she did not go after. the cartels bringing in. the drugs? No. So let's talk for a minute about. who runs California. So you're from Southern California?

As am I. I spent most of my. childhood in Southern California, which was, you know, by far the most. dynamic, prosperous part of the. state by far in aerospace. You had some agg, obviously, tourism, and then you had the. creative industries, the movie. business, the record business, both headquartered there. It's all gone except the egg. Yeah, but that's. not the part of the state that runs. everything. No, no, it hasn't. for some time. We haven't really had a true. Republican governor since,

like, the mid-nineties with Pete. Wilson. Yeah, Pete Wilson put forward. a very, very famous. proposition called 187, which was vote supported by voters. by over 60%. And it effectively was. to. restrict any sort of social. services except like non-emergency. So we're still, you know, allowed. for that to illegal aliens. And you can't.

reward people who are here illegally. with your money. So. Right, exactly. So we went from that. to, let's say, like. I think a month or so ago, this the. legislature put forward a. bill that would give illegal. aliens preferential mortgages. Gavin Newsom, to his credit, vetoed. that. Preferential mortgages. They were they were very sweetheart. deals. Like can I just say because I. can't contain my resentment. So ever since Prop 187.

passed and that was invalidated by a. judge because it's a democracy where. some judge gets to override. the will of the people, it's also. fake. But ever since then, a certain kind of Republican. consultant. And that would be the. dumbest people I've ever met. And I'm speaking specifically of. Frank Luntz, the guy with the. hairpiece. But there could be many. others. They've lectured Republicans about. how won 87 lost California. It was a Republican, though. I know it's a such a lie, but it's a Republican state. And Prop 97, which did deny. welfare benefits to illegal aliens.

That was hate. That was racist Republican. consultants. And guys like Mitch. McConnell and all the dumb people in. the party bought that. Well, and of course, because they're. funded by the Koch brothers and the. Koch brothers want to bring in. cheap, illegal alien labor. Yeah, simple as that. I mean, I think was Lenin said. that the capitalists will sell. you the rope that will used to hang. you. Of course. That's right. So sorry. I just can't. But back to your question, how. reasonable that is. It's not. It's beyond reasonable. And California used to be a. reasonable, safe, secure.

state with really tough laws. that put gangsters away. And and following. the three strikes law and other. reforms that came at. the late 90s and into the early. 2000s between 2000. and 2010 roughly, it was a pretty damn good place. like Steve Cooley in Los Angeles, you know, cleaned up a lot of the. mess. Even his predecessor, Jackie. Lacey, did a relatively good job, although she was chased out of. office by BLM.

She's black. She was chased out of office by and. literally harassed her home by. BLM activists because she was not, you know, in. line with their anti-police. anti incarceration agenda enough. And so we then. have George Gascon, who received $2 million from. George Soros. That was enough. It was a four. day race That actually was. extraordinary amount of money. It's interesting because.

Soros played Moneyball with. these DEA races all over the country. because he realized that. the district attorneys have enormous. power because they can set policy. about what crimes are going to be. prosecuted, which are not. Some of these other directives that. I mentioned earlier about cash bail. and so forth. Although George Soros is actively. excuse me, George has shown is. actively in violation of. state law and just operates,

you know, nonetheless. But Soros understood. that with a few million bucks, you could change. a race. Why would you want to why would. Soros, who's a foreigner. I beg your pardon? From Hungary, Not from here. Why would I want to wreck someone. else's country? I don't understand that. Soros days have jurisdiction. over like 75 million. Americans. Like it's crazy. What's the motive?

Like, why would you want your George. Soros? You grew up in war torn. Europe. Then you go to England, you. help destroy their economy. Right. Which he did. And then you come to the United. States, which is the nicest country. in the history of the world, and you. decide you want to take your ill. gotten gains and use those. funds to wreck someone else's. country. Like, what is what's. the motive here? I talked to a lot of people about. this. And, you know, initially, again, I didn't. want to even go down the Soros, you know, rabbit hole.

because I. You're not allowed. You're not allowed. But also, like. it's cliche, It it. Is it is cliche. But but the fact is that it's real. It's real. And. it begs the question of why. is it simply he is anarchic, you know, anarchist. Is he a financial terrorist? I would say yes. But what is. the motivation? I think again, you.

know it. I do not believe a. world class. arbitrage, you know, arbitrage. The trader. ever kind of leaves that mindset. There's always it's always. money that motivates. So I think it is it's you know, again, this is entirely speculation, but I would be very interested to. see what is the portfolio of the. family office of George Soros? Is it real estate? Because certainly the crimes. surge in cities like San.

Francisco and Los Angeles. have depressed real estate. in these downtown districts, 25%. at least, and insurance premiums. have gone way up. So is there. is there a trade there? Maybe? I don't know. But as I said, there's you know, there's people. that I trust and who. would be in a position to know that. indicate that there is. potentially other motivating. factors, at least with respect to.

Soros. So that being said, you know. It's just crazy how little. defense the United States has. Like, we don't have moral defenses. We build this amazing thing, amazing, greatest things ever been. built by any people. in all of history. And then a few, I don't know, evil figures like. Soros roll in. and we're totally incapable of. saying, Hey, foreigner, go away in. order to do that, right? You can't do that to us. And by the way, we'll execute you if. you try to do that. Well, I mean, a. normal society would say, you know,

we built this, you can't wreck it, but we're totally incapable a. normal. Society. would have. And given the kind of. violent criminals that are in. Demick in California and that. run prisons. Right. And commit murders in prison. literally against guards, even a normal prison, I. think would have. capital punishment applied to these. prisoners, you know, in the prison yard. hangings. Right. Something whatever it takes.

to bring fear. of the law and of the state. to those who fear only. the justice of the Mexican mafia, that is that is who they fear when. they go to prison. It's not the state. It's a joke. Then. Then the Mexican Mafia is the. state. Then in effect. In effect? Yeah. Final word. if it is, actually. Yeah. Yeah. They are the final. arbiters. Yeah, they are the final arbiters. So there. And then they're above the. state.

Yeah, they're. So I'm sorry I keep interrupting. you just because it's. That's an emotional subject. I think it's really. Important, isn't it? Is. It's really. It's really, really. upsetting. We used to live there. Yeah. Yeah. It's deeply upsetting to see. your home vandalized. and, you know, just literally my. home, but just my my, my hometown. Yeah, but. you're saying that Los Angeles. is not where the decisions are made. Where are the decisions? The decisions?

The locus of power in. California is centers. around a very elite. and small milieu in. San Francisco, largely around an area called. Pacific Heights. That's where I'm from. All right. Yeah. Originally. That's so funny. Pacifica. Pacific Heights is the center of. evil. Well, and. Pretty neighborhood, though. Well, San Francisco is one of the. most beautiful cities in the world. It used to be,

you know, like much of California. But in any event, the oligarchy. that has been really. now in place for almost. 100 years, starting. with the Gettys involvement. with the Newsom. family and the Newsom's family. involvement with Jerry Brown, goes back to the 1940s and 50s. And the. science of each of these. these dynasties.

all, you know, inter intermarried. They were into business together. Gavin Newsom's first, you know, big kind of, you know, entrance into the scene. was forming a restaurant group. called Plump Jack, which he. was preceded by the Getty family. and was also cofounded. with Billy Getty, who is the son of Gordon Getty, who. is the son of J. Paul Getty. And the ads have funded. Gavin's entire political career,

and they have made that possible. in the the the. Winery and Restaurant group. The success of that became a. launching board into San Francisco. City politics. I think he was on the board of. supervisors then became mayor. And but always there was. this this commonality. and nexus. between Pelosi's. family, Pelosi's husband, the Gettys,

the Browns and the Newsom's. So they're the old money elite. that have been running the state. for mom, you know, on. or off since the 1940s. I mean, of course, there have been. Republican governors here and there. It used to be, as we've talked. about, like a. sort of moderate state in the. sometimes you voted for Democrat, sometime very Republican. Usually you voted for Republican. candidates, presidential candidates. Last one was George H.W. Bush. But, you know, the.

the the accumulation. of power amongst this circle. really took hold after. these changes that we've talked. about in Southern California, the deindustrialization of Southern. California, the the. exodus of. at least 6 million. middle class Californians. in the last decade and. and the end of aerospace and defense. leaving leaving Southern California. So L.A. then became a Democrat.

stronghold when it was once a. Republican stronghold and. power shifted to San Francisco. And the other reason power shift at. San Francisco is because. of the presence of tech. Big tech. Yeah, big tech is the new money. And the new money. interweaves with the old money. through VC investments. and private placements and other. sorts of, you know, kind of social circles and. Ibrahimi and Grove, like you name.

it. And. so we then have a power. structure of. an industry that that. is made up of very few people, a lot of foreigners, by the way, of course, and. these kind of dynastic, almost like ancient aristocrats. in their in the manner of patron. client relationships. that define. this paradigm.

And and they have, you know, formed an enormous, let's say, power block. with tech. And and through that. connection, California has been ruled by. this oligarchy. But it's just weird in the physical. effects. I mean, my mom's from I got to. California in the 1850s from Maine. to find their fortune, and they did. And so I've sort of gone there.

My whole life was born. They're on. And it was, you know, I thought a. nice city liberal in some ways, very traditional in other ways, but kind of the same like the city. that saw the least amount of change. And then after. during the tech boom, 99, 98, 99, all this money came in, not just the. South Bay renamed Silicon. Valley, but into the city, particularly after 2000. And I thought, well, okay, so. Cisco's really rich now. Yeah, it'll get better.

Right. It was it was pretty nice, I. thought. But it will get better. The richer the city got, the dirtier it got, the more. dangerous it got, the more chaotic. it became. Yeah. The money made it way poorer. Yeah. So what is that paradox? And it's very interesting. Well, it's. Bizarre when Twitter moved its head. because, you know, all tech was, again south of the city. But then when the tech kind of. started moving into cities like, it's this beautiful city, it's our. Cape Town. And then it became like such a rich. city. Richest city in the United.

States. It instantly became dirty. Like, what is that? This is happening in Southern. California, too. So in Venice, California, Google has has established. a big office. And Venice is. marred by. just tragic levels of homelessness. that are shocking. Shocking. And. sites that I had only seen. when traveling like to, you know, the poorest parts of. Guatemala.

Maybe worse in some ways. But right around the corner from. the Google office in. Venice is a. let's call it a shantytown, a. favela, even, maybe, but tent after 10 to 4. tent and. right next to Google. It's a fascinating dichotomy. And I was told. by someone who would know. in the private security sector and a. former former cop.

that he has observed because he has. done work for Google, that. gang members, local. gangs extract. tribute from each. homeless tent every single. day, 20 to $50. a day. And this is happening, he claims, across the city. There's 75,000 homeless. in Los Angeles. And if they cannot meet the tribute, they are forced to sell drugs.

or other crimes. And by the way, thanks to you, I believe this was. a Newsom policy. Cops require I have to get. search warrants to enter any tents. The tents have become denizens. of of dens, rather of murder, of rape, of drug. The worst kind of drug trade. and other forms of depravity. that shocked the senses. And it's right next to Google, right.

next door. So I don't know. I think obviously I'm too simple to. understand the modern world, but I. always thought that the problem was. poverty and that. people committed crimes because they. were poor. And the richer your society became, the safer and more orderly it. became. But the exact. opposite has been true. And it makes you wonder, like, is. there some evil emanating from. these tech companies? Answer Obviously, yes. That inspires chaos, depravity, crime, violence. and filth.

Well, I think that the answer is. is also structural economic, because tech is not. based upon. employing vast. numbers of people. Right. Right. It's not productive labor. Of course. No, I get it. I mean, and like. So nine guys from India writing. code. Exactly. And so when when when that. becomes the dominant economic. power in the state. and manufacturing. leaves the state.

and there's where do where. where do people where are the poor. who are working class people turn. to? Okay. Here's the housing crisis is also. I get it. I mean, it it drops the. value of labor to zero. For the rich people. I just reply. to your point about is getting. richer and yet worse. Yeah, it's getting richer. And but the areas where the rich. people live like Atherton are. looking real nice these days. I was just in Atherton Pathogens. Great. Pathan at Malibu's great. There are pockets of.

I think Malibu still is great. Yeah, it is. It's so far away, you know that. it can be great. But. But I wonder if the city of San. Francisco, though, is such a great. example of the failure of leadership. and the failure of the ruling class. to be vested in the society from. which they're taking their riches. In a normal society, the. rich people would say, Hey, I live. here, my kids live here, you can't. do that shit. You know, get off the sidewalk. We're going to pay. We're going to make the San. Francisco Police Department the most. efficient and highly endowed police. department in the world. Yeah, No.

Crime. Exactly. The Saudis did that. Why can't. Why don't the tech. Well, because we became a one party. state, right? So when Steve Cooley was. D.A. of Los Angeles, you know, he was not about politics. In fact, he says the the. the job of a D.A. is not to, you. know, kind of bring politics. into the into the administration. of justice. It is to go after bad guys and. prosecute bad guys and send them.

away and make any safer. Yeah. Using the laws, the elected. legislators. Right. And in fact, at a local, you know, this was also. the case even in San Francisco back. in like the 2000. and the predecessor to Kamala. Harris, a guy named Talent. N who? Terence Hallinan. Yeah, right. And he he was a. liberal, but also like one. with a sense of like, duty to. do the job. But I think what happened is. sometime around like again around. the tutelage of thousands when.

Gavin. Newsom and Kamala Harris. really came into into. their, you know, into their. to their power structures. and especially San Francisco. It became not about. let's make this city better, let's make this safer. It's about how do I get. my next promotion. You know, term limits in California, which I supported, were supposed. to fix all this. And they seem to have made it worse. Do you understand?

Again, this is one of those. paradoxes that I don't fully. understand. I just noticed. But I don't know. I mean, they didn't work. I think we can say that, right? I mean, clearly, it's clearly. something's not working. Right? Again? Yeah. Could you remember that? Maybe you. don't remember, but maybe you're too. young. But, like, your moms came to. California and were like, okay, this. is going to make legislators much. more responsive. They can't live forever in these. dumb jobs, but it seems like. they have lived forever in these.

dumb jobs. They've just traded up. jobs. They just keep moving around. You know. I've also heard it's compared to. like the fact that we have a full. time legislature versus. Texas, that as a part time. legislature and that has. a moderating effect. I think I think that's like a good. analog for comparison. I mean, Sacramento is out of. control. There's supermajorities, Democrats, supermajorities in both houses. There's not a single Republican in. any any administrative, you know, officer level position.

in the state. I think the last one. was maybe insurance. commissioner. Right. And there are no statewide. Republican. Correct. Officeholders. That's right. Yeah, there haven't been for years. And the minority Republican. minority is so small in the. legislature legislative bodies that. they're irrelevant. And our Republicans are weak. I mean, Meg Whitman was. pathetic. She ran. She spent $150 million. of her own money to run.

for governor in 2010, and. she lost overwhelmingly to. Jerry Brown. Yeah, I went to her. I went to her house in Atherton. Speaking of Atherton, at that time, what is it you would think that the. Republican officeholders in the. state, the few who remain, would be. even clearer eyed and more. resolute, but they seemed even more. cooked. They were? Yes, I would say yes, I would say. so. I mean, the California. Republican Party basically doesn't. exist. If you want to run. as a as as you cannot run.

as a Republican. I mean, for instance, Rick Russo ran for mayor. recently. He was, you know, well known. Republican, but he had. to. Switch in Los in Los Angeles against. Karen. Bass. Yeah, against Karen Bass. And he. switched to the Democrats. party for to facilitate, you know, the run and give him a. chance. He still lost. And there's Karen Bass been a pretty. great mayor.

I mean this the board. of supervisors in L.A. have you know, a lot more power in. some ways than the. than than the mayor itself. You know, it's kind of it's the. mayor of Los Angeles does not have. the power of like the mayor of New. York City. But, you know, I mean, Karen. Bass did what. she she. she has done the job she was tasked. for, which is to have a black. woman as mayor and.

fulfill an identity politics. quota, in my opinion. Is Gavin Newsom, who survived a recall effort. Pretty serious, look like a pretty. serious recall effort. At least two terms now, Governor. Is he popular? You know, I'm not I haven't seen. like any any recent. polling on that. Have you ever been at dinner and. heard someone say, Man, I'm just. glad Gavin Newsom runs our state?

No. No. So in a one party state doesn't. really matter. Like everyone's. Brezhnev, at a certain point, it. doesn't really matter. Exactly. Whether people like what they're. getting. They're getting it. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that matters is. the Democratic primary. Of course. And there is like internecine. divisions within the party, just like in China or big time. Right. And in fact, it's kind of. interesting that, you. know, Gavin is not like on the hard. left of the Democratic Party, California.

I actually in some ways. think he's. probably much more reasonable. and moderate than than he, you know, has portrayed. himself to be. I think, as someone who knows him. I can confirm that. Yeah, it is true. Yeah. He's Gavin Newsom is, I think, responsible in large. part for what's happening in California. There's no excuse for that. He'll be held. You know, he'll be held accountable. for that on some level in some life. However, just in point of fact, he.

is not some crazy left winger. Look, I'll be honest with you. I like him personally. Yeah, everyone does. Yeah. I really do. And I really wish, you know, he was a phenomenal. governor. I think, you know, if we do have to live in a one party. state, at least our leaders should. be, you know, really competent. within the machine. And I think he had. a lot of potential. and certainly, you know, but but he's also a. slave and captured by.

by this movement and this this. leftism that. has has has cast. this Powell over California. He's weak inside, there's no doubt. Yeah. So can I ask, like. there are still very powerful. business interests, mostly the. people making AI, planning our enslavement. Why don't those people get together. and just, like, pay for a good. government? Well, I will tell you that I have. heard, at least from folks. in the VC world, that.

there is a. lot of. Quiet support even. in this cycle for for Trump. Well, that's true. There is. And there's some loud. support. I mean, Marc Andreessen. is the biggest VC in the state. has come out for Trump publicly. So that's good. But I just mean within the state of. California, why don't think. as long as you're going to have a. corrupt one party state, as long as. is going to be Guatemala? Okay, fine. That's what we are now. Why don't the oligarchs get together.

and just say we're at least going to. have, I don't know, nice roads and functional. schools and your. daughter's not going to get raped on. the way to CVS? Like, why not just do. I think it's not. It's because it's because these. nobles do not have noblesse oblige. Now we're cooking with gas. That's exact. Okay. Can you expand on that? Yeah. So. So the idea, you know, for. societies that are stratified. by class and where there.

is especially, you. know, an aristocracy that has a. political, you know, head, Germany. as well as social power, there was a sense, I think, in those kind of societies in. the past, even frankly, you know, within the United States, that there. were certain responsibilities. as a noble to. your your county, to your to your city, to your. to your, you know, land. and so forth.

To your nation, to. Your nation, of course. But today, we have a situation where. there's a disconnect from that, and. it's entirely about the self. and its nihilism. They all wear t shirts and live on. boats, right? They're totally. Completely removed from. the bad schools, from. the bad roads, from the crime. They have private police. force basically. Because they're not Christians. That's the actual difference.

If they're not Christian, they're not. believing Christians. And I believe in Christian feels. a sense of obligation to the poor. and the people over whom he. exerts authority to the people. below him. I mean, that's just part. of the religion. Well. So like when we talk about neo. feudalism and maybe how that's. not a perfect analog, I would add in. support of your approach is, well, at least in feudalism, they. believe in God. One that had certain obligations. You structured the entire society, right? Well, is a separate conversation,

but I was probably 40 years old. before. I'm interested in history. I realized that the thousand. years between the fall of Rome and. the Renaissance were referred to as, quote, the Dark Ages. And there's sort of very little. conversation about that among people. who specialize in European history. And it's like, why? Why are we dismissing a thousand. year period as the dark ages? Because actually, it wasn't that. dark. It's actually these were not. societies built on, you know, debt, slavery. These were societies built. on Christianity. And that's kind of why they've been.

dismissed as as dark and unworthy. of further study. or, you know, conversation. We have nothing to. learn from the Dark Ages. And that's all like a huge lie. Yeah. Surely they had a much more. enlightened ruling class than we. have. I would say that, you know, if you're going to make historical. comparisons, you like, let's say, are we in a new dark age? You could argue that, you know, the dark the so-called dark ages. was characterized by a.

separation from. Hellenism and classical. ideas and. and literacy. Right. And so. I think you could argue, frankly, that modern. America and modern society. as a whole. And that's especially true in. California, is also disconnected. from its history. It is forgetting its history. purposefully. I know. And we're also becoming, ironically, were we are subject.

to more information than. we can absorb. And so we absorb nothing. And maybe that's a kind of new. literacy. I think that's exactly right. And I think good weather plays a. huge role in this places with really. good weather. You see this on. Australia as well, allow people to sort. of drift along in. a state of content numbness. Yeah. And they don't ever they're sort. of content with, you. know, an ever declining. standard of living and an.

ever shrinking basket of freedoms. at this point in California of the. right to have an abortion, that's. kind of your only right. And they just they're so because. it's 75 and sunny, they don't. complain. You know what I mean? Whereas in, say, Romania. Yeah. They might, they might complain. Yeah. You know, it'll be very interesting. to see if they're ever, if things. get so bad that it catalyzes. action by the voters. One of these prosecutors I talked. to from Alameda County,

we were discussing the broader. implications of how we got. to the place that we did. And she says she said to me, she said, I blame you. And I said, what? That I blame. And when she said you, I mean, the uneducated voter. Right. The the voters that. are are. susceptible to the marketing. gimmicks of our. of our politicians.

that reframe legalizing. theft as safe neighborhoods. and schools act. And this kind of complacency. has resulted, you know, in. in a significant way. to the to the degradation of. the state. Well, it's just look that we're this. is just a dot on a continuum. This is a moment in time. And all every bad thing. that you described has been made. possible by liberal whites. Yes. And yes, they're bad. They're decadent attitudes.

And California, California's a Latin. American country, basically now with. some recognizable Latin American. country problems like rule by cartel. and corrupt politics in the rest one. party state. But at some point, it's going to be. characterized by another feature of. Latin American society, which is. fascist interludes. We're going to have like a military. junta or some strongman take. over California and all these new. immigrants. They're not rich white liberals. Actually, they probably don't think. that should be legal. Right. And you're going to get some. caudillo in charge of that state.

is going to put an end to all this. nonsense, you. Know, and maybe that will not. be so bad. I mean, it's preferable to what we. have now. I mean, would you rather. have Gavin Newsom or Kelly. or. But Kelly Exactly. That's a that's not a hard choice. Exactly. It's our hard choice. So that's very. different from the state that you. and I grew up in. Completely different, which was a. basically an egalitarian state. where even rich people, like I grew. up in a rich part of the state, and. we didn't feel like we were a class. apart, that everyone else was. a serf. You know what I mean? And drive through the Central Valley.

feeling like I have nothing in. common with these people. I feel like, well, they're Californians. just like me. That's over. You know, I wanted to mention. something. We're in. Don't you think? We're in the chaotic. middle period between one system. and a new system? Yes, for sure. In fact, Victor Davis has right. Victor Davis Hanson, who was very kind in. helping me with some of the research. for my book, made some incredible insights.

on the comparison of. the late Roman Empire, really the. period between 376 A.D. and 476 A.D. and what we're experiencing now in. California and that period. And I just say it. So thank you for saying that, because the fifth century is when we. think of the end of Rome. But we forget that there was at. least a century preceding that where. it was like on the way to the fall, of course. Yeah. And it was characterized. by things that are eerily. similar to what we're seeing in. California. So, of course,

there is the erosion of borders. There is the influx of. of migrants about, I think like. 1 or 2 million from. Germanic and Huns into. Rome, not assimilated. Breakdown of law. at the county levels. A disconnect from the. capital. And a lot of those immigrants in. Rome went into law enforcement, one of the legions. That's right. That's right.

Yeah. And and there was also. cultural factors where. the elite. were. Hansson calls this. It's called Fluxus. And it was this notion that. that the elite at that time. were embracing. decadence, cult religions. Hello, Trends. Right. Of course. And and. other sort of. values that were antithetical.

to the martial values that built. the Roman the Roman Republic. Narcissism. And Kamala Harris, wherever. the hell she's calling herself now, is just the is the poster girl. for that. She is the personification. of everything that is bad about. California. And it's not because she did all. that awful of things. I get it for you. She actually doesn't have that much. of a track record. Right. California. But that's the point, isn't it? She is a she is just.

a husk. She is a face. Yeah. And she is the right face. that qualified for, you know, hit the the the, you know, the quotas that are. Are necessary in California to. advance. And therefore, we see in her this. shell of a person. Always talking about herself. Of course, that's all she she only. even she thinks about rape. But it's always your. Books called Smart Crime.

No. Can you please use air quotes around. the word book? Yeah. Well, it was actually was. ghostwritten. And you think and and. and and. And plagiarized. books. Ghostwritten and plagiarized. So even her ghostwriter was lazy. Yeah. A mess. No, but it's so. It's so perfect. It's just this Vesuvius. of banalities about herself. and. Yeah. Me, me, me, I. this, I that.

It's like, you know, if you're going. to talk about yourself, there should. be some requirement to be. interesting. Yeah. Yeah, but it's never. interesting. Do you know what I. mean? It's always whining about. microaggressions and I way, you know, freedom, and it's just. like. It's so banal, you can just barely stand it. I would rather have an interesting. dictator. You know. The chapter, my book on her, I call The Banality of Evil. Yeah, well, it's perfect. And it's the sense that. these like these.

actions or inactions, rather, over time that seem. incremental. lead to outcomes. that actually produce. incredible evil and violence. Exactly. And though she just not pulling. the trigger. Right. She's not even passing some of the. laws I hope I can get to, which are even more insane than what. I've already told you. But she nevertheless is part. of this machine. And she's also tied to the Gettys,

by the way. I just incidentally. They all they all are Pelosi's, Gettys, Newsome. Brown's like it's all the same. Willie Brown, too, of course. And so. there's nothing there are no. accomplishments to speak of. And nothing changed when she was. vice president. No, but this is what happens when. girls become dictators. They kill, they build nothing. They create nothing. You don't even get, like, big, pretty buildings out of it. And then they kill you by passive. aggression. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. I'd much rather. Yeah, I'm not to make a gender thing. out of it, but if we're going to. have a dictator, at least, you know, he should be wearing a cape. Yeah. And building, you know, coliseum or something. I don't know. They can't even build light rail. And I'm trying not to use the F-word. in that darn state, so. Okay, well, let's get to loss. Yeah, I've got to stop. So sidetracked. So after Prop 57, 2016, that passes. We we jump ahead to. 2020, where I think.

everything broke down across. the world, but especially in. the United States and especially in. California. And as a result of the. George Floyd. riots, which, by the way, all. of the law enforcement officers I've. talked to who were there and. were there for the 1992 riots say. these two cannot even be closely. compared. Gangsters in L.A. during the George Floyd riots were. laughing their asses off. because they didn't give a scuse me. a shit about George Floyd.

at all. They everyone knew he was. just a. Some armed robber guys who are fans. of the New Revolution. Exactly. And. by the way, the guy who robbed us. on the police report, it says, like any drugs or you're on. any drugs and he writes in like. crayon fentanyl. He's on for. Yeah yeah he's on fan Everyone's on. fentanyl. In the criminal world it's like. salt. On. Fentanyl. Yeah, it's like salts. Well he was taking it because he had. been stabbed like a.

year or two before and. so he takes over the pain and to. stay level when he's doing carpentry. and it's so soul killing. Have you ever taken opioids, like. after surgery or something? I mean, I love laughing gas. I had that once. Have laughing gas is a totally. different thing. I'm not defending nitrous, but I. will say it's a totally different. gig. But, you know, any opioid. drug has the same. It just takes your soul away. Yeah, well, that's what we see. That's why it's the zombie. apocalypse. Yeah, right. That's it. But. But so.

So after the riots. and there was a. momentous push for, again, I call it crime equity. legislation. And this took the form of. two laws that have been. absolutely devastating. And I think that they probably. will ultimately get thrown out by. the Supreme Court because they're so. egregious. The first is called the. Racial Justice Act. of 2020, and. the Racial Justice Act of 2020.

allows defendants and. it's retroactive to. challenge their convictions. based on the presence. Of bias or racial. animus by, let's say, anyone involved. in the trial or. on the police side. that doesn't have to have any. bearing on whether or not. the evidence supports their guilt. at all. These can be guilty people. The evidence proved beyond a doubt.

What if there was a white racist. involved? At any level. They can get their convictions. thrown out under the Racial Justice. Act or reduce significantly. And this happened in the city of. Antioch. It's called the Antioch Texting. scandal, which four young. black gang members were. on trial for. attempted murder and murder and. very clear that they did it. They were a gang enhancements. were applied to them, which would. mean that they were going to face a.

lot more jail time. But at the same time, it came out that the police. officers in Antioch were texting. racist, so-called racist. messages to each other in. private. Not, you know, not. as part of the job, not relating to. even their their, you know, involvement in. the case, but just about these. defendants. And when this came out, the judge presiding.

over the case utilized. the Racial Justice Act and. threw out all the gang enhancements. against so. They had known or killed anybody. because the cops were mean. Let me tell you how much worse it. gets. Defense attorneys can use. statistical evidence, nebulous statistical evidence of. racial disparity to. support the case. and satisfied their burden of proof. that there is racial injustice. So, for instance, if a jurisdiction.

is applying gang enhancements. in greater proportion. to black, you know, gang members. and to some other group. Way gang members. Yeah, whatever those are. And. the under the Racial. Justice Act, these statistical. differences can be. entered into consideration by. the judge and whether or not. to apply the. R.J..

That's just like the end of. civilization. It gets worse. The same year they the. Sacramento passed AB 3076. AB 37 the. I took away. the ability of prosecutors. to apply peremptory. challenges to. prospective jurors on. the basis of bias. So, for instance,

up until AB 3070, you could if if a juror. would say, you know, my son. was a had been. involved with. I had been arrested or I have a. negative opinion of police, so on and so forth, this would be. a cause by which a prosecutor. could use a peremptory challenge. to remove the juror. Well, under AB 37. D if this juror. is a member of a protected group,

which by the way, includes. gender identity. So, like training criminal? Yeah. Well. Well, no, no. Trainee jurors. Okay. Yeah. They can no longer use peremptory. challenges against them, even if they say I. hate cops because. they're protected group. So the result of this. is, as one of the. top prosecutors in the entire state. told me, is. the proliferation of oj OJ.

juries. And the O.J. jury, by the way, never. got the credit. We never learned a single thing from. that. We spent our entire lives. hearing about all white juries being. bad. But here we. had a jury that just let a guy get. away with murdering two people. because those people were a skin. color. That was fine. And another murdered. Another gang prosecutor in Alameda. County told me that jurors. have come up to her and. said to her face, I will not. convict a black man.

So. Okay, Well, now I'm officially. depressed and and just. And just sad about the state. So let's just. Let's just end on a. happy note, if you're possible. If it's possible. Chris. Do you see California getting. better? I mean, is this like a. low point or is this just like. is. It you know, some of the cops I. talked to say that they think this. is cyclical and things will. things will come back.

into some level of normalcy. You know, there's. Detroit never came back. Exactly. Yeah. Neither did Rome after 476. It's still a crappy place as far as. I can tell. I mean, you know, I. don't know. I think that. there are some there are some. problems that become so embedded. And given the multifaceted. nature of this dysfunction. and the complexity of the problems. and the entrenched interest groups.

that do not have any. incentive to. to modify a system. that has rich them. I don't know how you will. So I think maybe the the lesson. for me, just as a listener to this. incredible story that you've just. told, the. main lesson is that civilization is. really fragile. You don't maintain it without. continuous effort and. vigilance. And you really have to be radical. in in preserving it. Yeah. And once it goes away, it.

doesn't necessarily come back. And you should not participate at. all in unjust systems at all. And you should fight like a wombat. Yeah. I mean, like, look, if we're. talking about solutions for me, for one thing, it is. it is revoking these. terrible laws that I've talked about. like that. That's has. To happen. How about shaming the. people who support them? That's totally unacceptable. I mean. Yeah, well, I don't know. anything about Bull Connor, but, like, I'm sure his. descendants all change their names. I'm not defending Bull Connor, trust.

me. But there is a useful. thing that culture does, which is. demonizes demons. I would go further. You should do that. I would go. further. I think it's more than. simply shaming. I think I think that if there is a. way that to hold. these people liable for negligence. and grossly. Criminally liable. Criminally. So why should George Gascon be able. to, like move to Tempe and just. live out on retirement? I don't why he should be allowed. why. Why should the politicians. in Europe and in this country who. facilitated the invasion.

of their countries and displacement. and this and. diffusion of their. native indigenous populations. as a form of, let's face it, a form. of ethnic cleansing? Why should those politicians. who enacted those laws not be. subject to the same kind of. standard? That was applied in the Nuremberg. trials. Or how about as recently as the. Yugoslav wars that those. words. Slava, I think Slobodan. Milosevic died in prison. Right. For ethnic cleansing. So Angela merkel gets away with it.

How is that. The international laws related to. these issues are not robust. enough to address this. modern form of demographic. inversion, demographic. engineering. But really, when I was. thinking about this as a whole, is it really all that different from. what the Chinese are doing in. Xinjiang? Like, yes, we're not we. don't have we don't have reeducation. camps yet. Because we're not as straightforward. as that. Right. But but the idea of of. like bringing the Han Chinese into.

Xinjiang to do. effectively erase those. people. Is that really any different than. what's happening when 12 million or. 7 million people have come across. the U.S. southern border with impunity. and are going to most likely. probably become citizens unless. unless Trump, God willing, wins and and reverse. that. I mean, it's times. are very dark. Tucker And I don't know, like if. there is a positive message to.

be made, except I, I. pray that our. leadership, at least the federal. level, will. right the ship. And perhaps California over time. can come back to some semblance. of what it once was because it is. the defacement of a grand work. of art. It is a it is a work of art. In Los Angeles and San Francisco, two of the prettiest cities. In fact, I would say the prettiest. cities we have by far, both of. them in their very different ways. But it is destroying.

art and irreplaceable art. And as a birthright Californian. who's living in his great. grandparents house, you're one of the few in. L.A. who can say that. Like, what's your plan? Are you going to stay? You know, like you've you've. been asked this question, right? And you've said, like, America is my home. Like I'm not living it. I feel that way about California. They said they're not your stamp. I mean, unless I. get like another home invasion,

that that might like, catalyze it. But I. I feel very tied. to the land. Like, good, you know, should. And I don't feel like. it should be just surrender. because some. assholes in San Francisco. are have decided to. spread crime equity across the. state. You know it's like I. will defend will defend our home. will defend our castle.

And that is I think. you know what's one duty. is to your your ancestors. Who had guns. So please buy one. Yes. Good. Call me. Of course. Thank you. Of course.