World Cup Pregame Special: Breaking Down the 2026 World Cup

I was trying to think of how we can how. [music] we can frame this. >> If you're listening or or watching this, uh you're about to you're about to. embark on what I what I like to think of. as the most adversarial. friendship you've ever experienced. >> I think they call it friendnemy. >> in America. Yes. >> No. So, are we frenemies in football? >> Kind of. Uh. >> we're friends in life. >> Yeah. Brahmas in life. But when it comes. to football, Oh, no. No. We never see. eye to eye. We'll never see it.

>> I wonder if it'll change with the World. Cup. >> It should cuz the World Cup for me, oh. man, I'm so excited. You know me, the. World Cup is like the pinnacle. It's. like, >> man, the World Cup is, >> how do I explain it? It's funny cuz. Americans don't get it. It's like for me. as a football fan, it's like it's like. going to prom, but also like an Avengers. movie premiere, but also like the Super. Bowl. It's like everything, man. I'm so. excited. [laughter] I'm. >> I'm very excited, man. Thank you for. joining me.

>> I should thank you for letting me join. you on this football journey. Uh thank. you to everyone who's joining us. >> This is the first of many episodes where. we're going to be delving into the FIFA. World Cup 2026. That's its full name. I. like that some people want to call it by. its government name, the FIFA World Cup. Cuz we just say the World Cup and then. other people are like, "Which World. Cup?". >> You know what I found funny? In South. America, they don't even call it the. World Cup. They just say Munda, the. World. They don't even say copper. They. just eat. >> That's how familiar it is.

>> They just say that's that's what we. need. Cup. >> just world or world. That's And everyone. understands what you're talking about. >> Damn. >> But boy am I excited. Let's delve into. this roller coaster ride. >> It's also It's also the biggest World. Cup basically that's ever happened, right? First World Cup to be in three. countries. >> Yes. >> Right. So it's Canada, the US, Mexico. Uh it's the first World Cup that is. going to have how many teams? >> 48 teams. 48 years. >> I think I think of it as a typically. American World Cup. It's super sized.

[laughter] Like they they took it to. McDonald's. or they took it to one of their GMO. farms and just pumping it with. [laughter] those, you know, you've seen. those like American chickens where you. go like, "Wow, [laughter]. >> it's a superized. American World Cup. >> 48 teams.". >> And it is, you know what? Actually, it. makes it the perfect American World Cup. because what is America without Canada. and Mexico? If you think about it, if. you think about honestly, I know a lot. of people listening to this or watching. this will be like, "Wait, wait, wait. What did you say?".

>> First of all, for the world, Canada is. America. Yes, I know that's not correct, but for the world, it is. >> We don't have time to. >> And what is America without Mexico? >> Think of all the food people are going. to be eating while watching the games, most of it will be Mexican food. >> Mexican food. Yes. >> You know what I mean? What you take it. out of what is the Super Bowl without. Mexican food? What is like a you know. >> it's very interesting because the thing. you said about Canada and America. because Canadians like no we're not. Americans but where we come from we have.

like we're like no we don't have time to. >> dice you and splice you all Americans. it's the same way Africa is a continent. for them. >> Yes. >> It's like it's the same vibe. >> It's it's it's pretty much the same vibe. and they've got a half this will be the. first World Cup with a halftime show. >> I think that's the thing that's pissing. off most soccer fans. I know that's the. thing that's exciting most American. fans, but most soccer or football fans, they are pissed off. They are mad about. the after time show. I don't know what. you think about it, but they are mad. >> Doing it or not? >> No, no, no. It's going to be Shakira.

It's going to be Madona. It's going to. be BTS. >> I thought they said Drake was doing it. What happened? >> No, Drake isn't doing it. I think it's. going to be No, no, no. But when did. that change? Because I remember an. announcement where they said Drake will. be doing the halftime show. >> But then Kendrick happened. You're. telling me that Kendrick lost to Drake. so badly? I think no that FIFA came and. said, "Drake, you are in." But uh after. we saw what happened. >> Yes. Kifa doesn't like losers. But I. think what happened was No, no, no, no, no. Cuz you are right. Actually, Drake.

was very involved. He was like an. ambassador for Canada. Yeah, you're. right. >> I thought Drake was doing it. >> No, it's going to be created by Cold. Play, which means Well, if you're if. there any. >> any what CEOs in the audience, they need. to hide themselves. I'm just saying away. from the screens, but it's going to be. But the thing. >> you make it sound like Cold Play, >> set that up as part of their show. >> Well, this worked, didn't it? >> It would be an amazing It would be. amazing PR if they just did that at. every show. >> Can Can you imagine if you did at the. World Cup cuz then it would blow up even. larger than. >> That is probably my favorite thing at.

the World Cup is them cutting to the. fans. >> Oh, the producers. No, but think about. >> not the producers, the cameramen. Like, let me tell you something. If anyone who. works as a cameraman, their ability to. find two things in a crowd of 50,000. people, they will find the most. beautiful woman and they will find the. strangest looking fan. I don't know how. they do it. I don't know how they find. them. I don't know. Like, there's not a. single match I've watched where I've. gone, "Huh, everyone here is just. normal.". >> No, it's funny because when you watch. European games, they don't cut to the.

beautiful women as much as when you. watch African Cup of Nations games. >> Oh, or Copa Libertador. Yes. Cuz like I. think it's also like a very cultural. thing cuz I think in America and in the. west if you keep cutting to beautiful. women then it's seen as maybe sexist or. maybe quite in Africa and South America. seen as just appreciation of the. beautiful game. >> Yes. The beautiful game. >> and in America I think like cutting to. kids crying but to go back to the. halftime show. >> Yeah. >> The reason I think fans are very pissed. is. >> you imagine you're watching the World.

Cup. in the last World Cup. Yeah, >> you're a France, you're a France fan. You're 2-0 down at halftime. >> and then you have to watch Madona and. Shakira dancing. when all you need is just like the. players to come back. So that's why most. fans are like we don't need [laughter]. cuz American American fans don't care. They'll watch a halftime show when their. team is losing. But football fans I. think there's too much investment. >> when it when it comes to the Super Bowl. The halftime show is oftent times more.

popular than the Super like you'll see. the ratings spike. Yes. >> During the the halftime show, but for. the World Cup, it's going to be. interesting to see cuz a World Cup half. like a normal halftime is 15 minutes. >> Yes. >> And now this one they say is going to be. 30 minutes. >> It's going to be I think it's going to. be 11, but the whole halfime is going to. be 30 minutes cuz normally it's 15. minutes. The halftime. >> Wait, so they're going to make it 11. from 15? >> No, they're going to make 11. They're. going to add 11. So your add 11 minutes. time is going [clears throat] to be 30. minutes. Normally it's 15 minutes, but. then they're going to add 11 minutes.

>> of show time and dancing. which will make it like 26 30 minutes. So the teams are going to be out there. in the dressing rooms for 30 minutes. But what I'm saying is. >> do you think do you think that's going. to do you think that's going to help the. teams or do you think that'll hurt the. teams? Like what what would you what. would you rather have if you're a if. you're a winning team or a losing team? Would you rather have more time or less. time? >> No. So I think like both sets of fans if. you're winning you just want the game to. be over so that you can get to the you. just want you want a short half time.

>> Yes. >> And if you're losing you just want you. don't want to like linger in that state. of losing. You want your team to come. back out maybe mount a comeback. So no. one is going to be happy about the. halftime. >> Well it depends on how the halftime is. Maybe it's a boring game and then the. halftime saves it. Before game is never. boring. You've spoken like a true. American. You never know. It's never. it's a final but finals near but finals. can be look finals can be ky that's the. problem finals you can find everyone's a. little tense everyone's a little nervous.

>> right now we're not even thinking about. that though cuz right now it's all just. about like who's going to be in the. world cup. >> who's making it to the. >> yeah like the selections of the teams yo. bro have you seen have you been watching. the Brazil reaction videos to the. players being called up to the world cup. >> I was watching them with my American. friends and they thought they were over. the top and I told them no they're after. the course if you get called up. >> What do you mean they thought it was. over the top? >> No, because like you know again when you. watch American sports when they call up. the dream team. >> Yeah. >> You know LeBron is like okay we're going.

to go mess up some Angorans but he's not. like losing his mind [laughter]. and then like we watch Neymar. >> Oh yeah. Let me show you. Let me show. you and running around and this was like. one of my favorite videos here. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me see if I can. get this thing going. This was Yeah. This was the name I want. Look at this. >> Look at the tension. and they're calling them up. in. >> alphabetical order. Yes.

>> So now they know woman next to Neymar. She's like feeling it. Look. [screaming]. >> so they thought that was over the top. >> Bro, you know what's wild is [cheering]. >> it's like he won the World Cup. >> No, just make. >> Look at this. Look at this. >> And this is Neymar. He's not like some. scrub player. He's not like some This is. Neymar. Probably the greatest talent. Brazil has produced in the last 20. years. And that's how much it means to. him. He's crying. He got emotional. And.

so when Americans watch that, they went. like he's just getting called up. And I. tried to explain to them that it's like, you know, you know, >> but wait, but the the thing the thing. for me is like. >> he's hugging everyone, his family, his. physio. The No, no. You know, you know. what it is for me is. >> I like that people were filming their. own potential pain cuz this is this is. essentially like. >> He doesn't know. Yes. >> No, but I'm saying it's.

>> first of all, I don't know why they have. to do it like this. You could just put. it out on the internet immediately. They make it like the Oscars cuz you. have to sit there and then like wait for. your name. He could also phone the. players ahead of time and be like, "Yo, you're in the squad.". >> No, but in Brazil, it's like the Oscars. >> Yeah, but but I'm saying like, why do. they have to do it like that? I'm just. feeling it's supposed to be an event. >> I'm feeling for the fans is what I'm. saying. >> So, this is what happens in Brazil. The. whole country or like in football loving.

countries, the whole country comes to a. standill. It's an event. >> Everyone waits for the Yeah, they wait. for the announcement. >> It's almost like, think of it as. the night of the presidential election. in the US. That's how it is. Everyone is waiting on. tent hooks. It's like there has to be. surprise. It has to be a surprise. So. the players are watching and my American. my American friends went like, "Oh, but. this is over the top." Then I told them, "No, this is how it feels when you guys. get your college admission letters.". >> I like how you're throwing in that you. have American friends. I have.

>> You're really making sure that we know. You're making sure that we know. >> You're like, "Let me tell you about my. American friends. >> I'm I'm like a white guy in the south. Let me tell you about my black friends. [laughter]. I've collected a bunch of. >> You make it seem like you make it seem. like we don't have the So my American. friends uh to those of you. >> No. What are you trying to like shine on. your back? >> No. No. Because if I was watching this. trying to be like this my uh my American. friends, why are your American friends. more special than your other friends, Joe? >> If I'm watching this, if I'm watching. this with my Ugandan friends, they get.

it. Totally get it. They like, "Oh, we. understand the reaction.". >> Do your Do your American friends know. who is or isn't your American friend? You should do these announcement videos. for them. You should announce like who's in your. American welcome to Joe's American. friends list. Uh [snorts] and then. people are surprised. These are the. people who have made it. >> These are the top five. >> Uh John B. John B. Congratulations. You. are my friend. [clears throat] Yeah. My. American friend. >> Uh look at this. Yeah. This was this was. crazy. This was one of my favorites, bro. Like this is where you go. >> Yeah. This is the one where.

>> this is the Brazil goalkeeper. Look at. this. >> Third pierce goalkeeper. >> Third. Yes. Look. Look at this. >> He gets called up. >> He's not even going to play. Yes, he's. the guy. So, he's the guy on the ground. and he totally passes out. He blacked. out out of excitement and no one in his. family notice cuz they're busy doing. laps around the couch. If you if you. pass out from an announcement, I'm going. to take you out of the team if I'm the. coach. >> No, but that's the passion you need. No, >> that's someone who's willing to put. their. >> Hey, man. Let me tell you something. If. you lose consciousness because of an.

exciting moment, I'm not taking you to. the World Cup, my brother. >> You don't need You don't need players. fainting before he has to save a. penalty. Imagine, bro. The guy the guy's. so excited or he saves a penalty and. then he faints because of his. excitement. This for me. >> No, you need a player. >> Yo, Trevor, you're going to let me tell. you something. >> You are out. If I'm the coach and you. faint. because I've selected you, you're out. You know why? >> If you're on a dating app, do you want a. girl who passes out in excitement when.

you swipe right? No. >> Or do you want a girl? >> No, you don't. I want a girl who passes. out an excitement when I swipe right. >> My man, first of all, I don't know what. app you're on. If somebody faints. because you've selected them on a dating. app, you. >> I feel chosen. They feel you need to run. in the opposite direction because this. person. >> is this is this is psychopathic. behavior. >> Exactly. Trevor spoken like a man who. has options. [laughter] I'm speaking I'm. speaking like a normal man. You know, you know, so you know what this this.

this got me thinking about like with the. selection now the big news is like who. was left out. I mean this this happens. to every team. >> The funny thing about the keeper before. you get out we get to the person who was. left out. Funny thing about the keeper. he got called up for kata 2022 and he. played only 10 minutes. So he knows he's. not going to get like a full game. >> Yeah. But it's but it's being chosen as. you know what I mean. It's it's it's the. Brazil national team and you're 38. I. get it. The the the surprising thing to. me is like who coaches choose to leave.

out sometimes. >> Yes. Because when they call up someone, they have sacrifice another. >> Yeah. >> I was surprised that Pedro didn't get. selected for for the Brazil national. team. >> I was surprised as. >> I know Chelsea hasn't I know Chelsea. hasn't done well, but. >> he was their player of the season. >> I if you watch every single minute that. J Pedro has been on a pitch this season. and in previous seasons, >> he's been a differencemaker. Yeah, >> there are few players. who make more of an impact and also few.

players who are as dynamic and versatile. as he is. Pedro can hold up the game for. and if you look at his size and stature, you don't think he can hold up the game. the way he does, but he does. >> Ja Pedro can spur an attack on the wing. >> J Pedro can play like an like an. advanced forward position where he's. just waiting for a through ball and he's. going to finish it. He can cut back. He. can dribble. He can trap the ball. You. like look like he's got Yes. No, you're. right. >> I was surprised that they left him.

behind. >> The irony is. >> they took they took Ryan, >> by the way. And can I just say Ryan is. Yo, shout out to Ryan. Ryan is one of my. favorite like you know in our football. group. I talked about him long ago. I. love Ryan from Bournemouth in the in the. English Premier League. >> He's one of my They had a better season. than yours. But the thing is the thing. with Yao. >> he's one of my he's one of my favorite. favorite players. The irony was Yao. Pedro actually was interviewed short I. think three or four weeks before the. call up and he went I want Neymar to. come. He was pro Neyar coming because he.

didn't think that Neymar coming to the. World Cup would affect his place. You're. lying. >> No, he did. >> J Pedro in an interview said I hope. Neymar comes. >> Yeah, of course. >> But you you see that they didn't listen. to him. He said I hope he comes. >> Yes. >> As in he was assuming he's already on. the trip. >> Yeah. No, no, he Yeah. He didn't say I. hope he goes. >> Yes. >> He said I hope I hope Neymar comes to. the World Cup. >> Yeah. And then also the crazy thing is. Yao Pedro also had a collab party watch. party with his family and unlike. Neymar's his was. >> Did we see the video? >> Yeah, I saw Yeah, you can. Yeah.

>> Can we try find that video? I want to. see. >> It's right there. You know you. >> Let's see. Okay, we got this. Hold on. Let's see. >> And it turned into a wake. >> Oh man, >> it was. >> Oh, man. Let's see here. >> It's crazy to see turn into a funeral. Let's see. >> Let's see. I want to see. Okay. >> Yeah. So, this is the family waiting and.

>> this is his whole family. >> Yeah. So, the moment they call up cuz. they're calling them in alphabetical. order. >> Yeah. [screaming]. So, you can see them realizing that he's. not making the plane. >> So, this. >> Okay. Can I Can I just say Can I just. say a few joke? Can I just say a few. things? [laughter]. >> Number one,

why do you put the video out? >> They were live streaming. >> They were live streaming. >> Yeah. All the videos were being live. streamed. >> Oh my goodness. So they didn't even have. the option of recording. >> What has happened? >> You're so sure you're going to get. called out. >> Yeah. But what has happened in the. world? I you know I I'll see videos on. the internet all the time where. people broadcast their shame and pain. and I'm like what do you what have you. ever seen these videos of people who are. like this was the moment I found out.

that I got fired and it's just them like. in a meeting and it's like. I'm like what? What? You know why you. got fired? Because you film yourself in. meetings, bro. >> The whole time. >> That's why you got fired. Why? Like, why? >> But I think he was so sure he was going. to He was so. >> No, but yo, why not record it. >> and then put it out afterwards? >> You You can You can also do that. No, but. >> also also I love how can I just say cuz. I'm a draw Pedro fan, but I do think. it's funny how.

>> his videos you bring your whole family, you bring everyone and then like your. family's basically [ __ ] on other. players now. >> Yes. No, >> cuz you heard like what some of the. names are called. >> This is like that loser, that idiot. >> Okay, I'll say this. You know, I feel. like that's what would happen if we had. like live streams of families of Oscar. contenders actually watching the Oscars. We need to pitch that. >> Yes. Cuz you know, >> that's a great idea. We need to pitch. that. >> What happens is the Oscar losers.

normally, you know, react. >> In fact, we should trademark that. We'll. do it. We'll do it when I host the. Oscars. We'll do that. We're [laughter]. going to. >> You should have the. >> We're going to have the families live. streamed at home just so that they can. scream out things. >> Michael B. JORDAN WAS TRASH. [laughter]. THAT'LL BE SO DOPE, BRO. Nobody. >> Oh, that would be so much fun. No, but. you you were laughing at me. >> It's just a vampire movie. [laughter]. >> You know, nobody deserves anything. >> You were laughing at me for saying swipe. right now. You see what happens when you. swipe right on a girl and she ghosts. you. That's what happened with your.

opedro. >> Yeah, but this But again, why you don't. have to tell You know, you know what's. nice about a dating app? It's between. you and the app. >> Yeah, but when if you're social it's. between you. >> if you're social, the guy is going to. say yes. >> Yes. Why are you live streaming you. swiping on a dating app? >> Because I'm so sure the guy is going to. >> Well, then then you know what? This is a. lesson in humility, my friend. [music]. Don't press anything. We've got more. What now? After this.

The Spanish [music] team was the same. This was um I mean these are your boy. Who are you supporting for the World. Cup? I'm supporting Messi because I would. want Messi to do I'm a huge Messi fan. I. mean, you don't have to tell. >> I think I think he has given so much to. football. >> It's crazy that you don't even say I'm. supporting Argentina. >> No, I'm supporting Messi. I don't care. about Argentina. I want Messi to do a. repeat. But while my heart says. Argentina, I think my brain says France. or Spain.

My mind's telling me Messi, but my body. my body wants France or Spain. [laughter and gasps]. That song didn't do as well on the. charts, but now there's a gap. There's a. I think you can get the the remix rights. to that song very cheap, Joe. I know. you've always been wanting to make it. and it's been it's been very expensive. for you to get the rights. I think you. can get them now. You can. >> I think Spain is to start. And I think. even the fact that Gabi. >> Why was Gabby so surprised though, didn't he? >> No, because he just came off an injury. He was injured. He was injured for a. year and a half.

>> No, again, it shows that this is not. just a Brazilian phenomenon. >> It's like, >> wait, wait, wait. Is is is. >> Gabby the same as Gabby? >> No. >> Is Gabby another player? >> Gabi is another player. Gabby used to. play for Atéico. >> Okay. I thought Gabby and Gabi were the. same, but depending on how you. >> No, Gab is a new young I wouldn't call. him new. He's 19 now. He's a player for. Barcelona. Got injured. >> No, no, I know. I always I called him. Gabi though. >> No, he's Gabi. >> So, he's Gabi. >> Yes, Gabi. >> Oh, okay. All right. I got it. >> Gavia. Mhm.

>> That's your boy. >> Like Pablo Gavia Escobar. >> Look at you getting excited, my man. Huh? Is there enough space in Is there. enough space in those pants? [laughter]. >> You know, I love talking about Barcelona. players. >> I LOVE THESE YOUNG TALKING ABOUT. Barcelona players. We got to get Joe. into some sweats. Get out of those. jeans. >> You know, I love these young boys of. Barcelona. >> Yeah. Relax yourself here. I [laughter]. relax yourself, Jeffrey. Hey, busy out. here talking about young boys. [laughter] Hey, people will clip that, my man. You want to relax? Hey yo, hey, as the streets would say, there many of.

us though. Hey yo, when it comes to. football, there are many Jeffrey, many. Barcelona fans. >> Joe does not care about being clipped. >> Oh, we love them young. [laughter]. Oh, the younger the better. You know, I. don't know what's worse. The fact that. you're saying it like that or the fact. that you're so good at rubbing your. hands like [laughter] a villain cuz like. your technique is flawless. You have. flawless rubbing hand villain. Oh man. Yo, you know what? We have to talk about. >> England. Oh, that's Yeah. I know that's I I don't. even know what to talk like is.

>> No. Okay, let's Okay, let's break it. down. Let's set the stage. So, uh. um for those who don't know, England is. probably the. How, how can I phrase this? I would. argue England is probably the most. talented team. to not do as well as they should at. World Cups. >> The most hyped team. >> No, look, no, no, look, look. They're. definitely hyped, but if we're honest, if we're honored, let's be fair to them.

I know it's easy to hate on the English, >> and we should because of our history. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have We have scars. of colonization. >> We we Yeah. We We owe it to our. ancestors. >> Of course. Of course. Of course. I mean, the language we're speaking right now is. a gift from them. How can we not use it. to slander them back? Do you know what I. mean? What a waste of language that they. brought it on themselves. >> You No, we g they gave it to us. Before. they wouldn't have heard these things we. were saying. Now they be like, "Why are. you talking [ __ ] about us? Why you. talking?" Cuz you gave it to us. So you could hear before it would just. it would just be sounds. >> So what I'm.

>> God don't save the queen. [laughter]. >> But wow, this guy shots fired. No, me. I'll always say I'll always say it. Um. well now it's God save the king. I guess. the um It's amazing how they just. switched that up. I always thought that. was weird. Like literally overnight. they're like, "All right, all right, all. right, God save the queen now. >> We've changed our pronouns. >> Yeah, we've changed. We've changed now.". Um go back. No, let's be fair. talent talent. Just talentwise, England. has always had extremely talented. players. >> I beg to differ, but okay.

>> Wow. >> I think they've always had a pretty good. league that's made up of players from. other countries. >> Joe Joe, let's let's pause for a moment. and let's. >> How many English? >> Okay, I think it's I think it's fair to. explain to people if anyone is going to. if anyone is watching this or listening. to this, >> I think it is good for them to know. >> that you are biased. I think it's good. for them to know that you are a hater. I. think it's good for them to know that. you don't rate English football at all. >> I think it's hoof and hope. >> There we go.

>> I think. >> and in case you don't know what that is, a hoof is something you find on an. animal, not on a human being. And so. hoof and hope is Joe basically saying. that English football is a bunch of cows. or as we call it these days, hoof and. inshallah. [laughter]. >> Yes. No, >> basically. No, no, Joe. Let me set the. stage. Don't defend yourself at all. I. first need to explain this. You're a. hater, which is good for the game. Haters are good in in certain aspects.

You keep people honest. You're a hater. of uh of the English players. You don't. rate them at all. And so for you, for. you, you're not shocked when England. ever quote unquote under Don't say. anything. I'll let you know when it's. time for you to respond. [laughter]. You don't think it's ever England. underperforming. You think that they're. lucky to be there like Make a Wish kids. or something. Right now, I'm saying. >> England has always had some of the most. talented players in the world.

>> We can go back decades, you know, we can. go back to like the generations of. Skulls and and then you can jump forward. to like the Lampods and the Gerards and. the Beckhams and you can like you can. keep skipping. This current crop as well. is one of the most talented group of. English players we've seen. >> I'll let you know when. Cone silence. >> Cone of silence. >> All right. >> Well, not cone of vow of silence. Vow of. silence. I don't want to be in a cone.

with you. Um. the current English squad though has. created. a bunch of waves because. the coach is it it's not the first time. but it's like it's one of the few times. that England hasn't had an English. coach. >> Yes. The last one they had was uh Fabio. Capello. >> Uh the last time they had a non-English. man. >> Didn't they have like the the the guy. from Scandinavia? I feel like for a.

moment. >> Sven you're on. but came after. >> he was after Capello. No, he was before. Capello before. right. So they but generally they have. English coaches. Now they went with um. >> Thomas Tucho because because things were. not going right for them. That's how. badly things were going. >> I mean if you want to get things done. you go with the Germans. >> Yes. But English tablets didn't receive. that very well. >> Yeah my man. My man my man. Hey you go. with what? >> No. No, because especially when. >> made in Germany.

>> So they could they could they could. allow a Swede, they could allow an. Italian, but England and Germany have. such a rival in soccer. It's almost like. if Americans named. Wow, should I say an Iranian now as the. coach of the American team. That's how. badly they hate each other. >> Damn, that's another great pitch. We. should do that. >> So yes, so England and Germany, >> you're just coming up with some great. ideas here. Everything that you think is. wrong and crazy, I want to live in that. world. >> They hate each other so much. And by the. to go back to the vehment argument, I. think England has modestly talented.

players who normally get way more hype. than they deserve. There's a reason why. no English player has won the balloon. since Michael Owen. >> Can we throw internet sounds on some of. THESE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING? >> NO, IT'S. England has always had modestly talented. players, but yeah, they've never had. like the most talented player of their. generation. >> Sure. You talked about Beckham scores. that was a generation of Zidan and. Aleandro de Pierro and Raul and all. these other countries had way better.

players. Ronaldo Ronald said England has. never had a generation where you go like. oh. >> yo are the cameras rolling on this trash. or we just is this just me is this just. me talking to a mad man in a corner? >> No these are facts. So every time. England has had a player who is good. other countries have had way more. players who are way way better. When you. talk about the current generation, they. have who's the most signed player, Harry. Kane. Still not the best striker in the. world. Who's a better striker? Who's a. better striker than Harry Kane right. now? >> I would say.

elevator music. Look, what would you like, sir? No, no, no. Listen, there's a there's a death. There's a death of proper number N. My. friend, my friend, your fancy English is. not going to save you here talking about. a a death a death of. >> No, I'm saying I'm saying still not the. maybe maybe I shouldn't have said I.

should have kept it moving. >> I should have said, >> tell me a better striker than Harry Kane. right now. >> I should have said better striker. I. should have said they're still not the. best player. >> Tell me a best player. >> Tell me a better striker than Harry Kane. right now. Good goal scorer. >> H. tell me. >> Great goal scorer. >> Say me, but still not the best. Not the. best player in his own team. >> Great goal scorer. Is he from Peru? Who's No, I'm saying I don't I'm not. familiar with that name. >> Har. Who's great goal scorer? >> Hurricane. >> Maybe the way you're pronouncing it is. great goal scorer. Is he Greek?

>> Still not the best player in his own. team. >> Great goal scorer. He scored a heart. full of goals. But when it came to. choosing the. >> See what you've just done here, [clears throat] what you've just done. here is something that I'm glad we do. not see in football. You have just moved. the goalposts. That's what you've done, Joe. >> All I'm saying, >> that is what you have done, Joe. >> No, all I'm saying is. >> Harry Kane. >> Yes. >> I asked you the question. Respond to me. >> Yes. >> Who is a better striker than Harry Kane. right now? >> He's right now. I struggle to I struggle. to think of a better striker, but he's. still not the best player in the world. [laughter] Not even top three. No, not.

even top three. He's not the best player. at Bayern Munich. >> Oh, my man. >> In his own club. And that's what I keep. talking about. So, Michael voted. Bundesga player of the year. >> Yo, my man. My man. My man Joe, if. you're a better player than Harry, >> Joe, wait, wait, Joe. I see that you're. spiraling and I understand why. >> Okay, I understand it. >> As a hater, as a hater, I understand. haters. I understand haters. >> I'm saying this team in every position, >> okay, >> has somebody who can hurt you.

>> Do not sleep on Bukaya Saka. >> Still not anywhere near the best winger. in the game. >> Hey, my friend, my friend, do not sleep. on that boy, >> okay? >> He will hurt you. >> Okay. >> Okay. Do not sleep on that boy. >> Struggles to beat his man every time. [gasps]. >> He's not. >> He's not. He's not dead. >> By the way, how do we say that guy's. name? >> Try again. >> That is the right joke. >> Kascaria. >> Try it again. >> I think you said it three. [laughter] I.

THINK YOU SAID IT THREE DIFFERENT WAYS. >> LET HIM LET him try saying my name. He's. from Georgia. [laughter] In fairness, let him try saying my What I'm saying is. like, no, I'm saying every single. commentator says his name differently. I've heard some commentators say Kavaria. and then I've heard some commentators. say Kavcaria and then I've heard some. commentators say like Kavkeia. >> Yes. >> So I don't know how anyone says his. name. I've never heard but he's not in. the World Cup so it doesn't matter. The. point is England. Let's go back to. England. England. So England has um put. forward their team. Um, one of the. biggest things that's come out is people.

saying, especially the English press. saying that this was a terrible. selection because some of the most. prominent English players were omitted. So, off the top of my head, players that. they feel were omitted. Um, Phil Foden. from Manchester City. >> Yes. >> Um, >> Cole Palmer. >> Cole Palmer from Chelsea. >> and Trent Alexander. >> Meuire from Manchester United. Harry. Magguire. >> Uh, Luke Shaw from Manchester United. Wait, wait, who else? Who else left out? Alexander Arnold. >> Trent Alexander Arnold from Real Madrid. >> Can I just say if as a nation you're.

lamenting Maguire not making the team, you're already not in a good starting. place. Let me just say that if as a. nation. you're beming and making noise because. Maguire isn't on the [laughter] plane, you're already starting from a losing. position. And I'll say I'll say this. here. [laughter]. this guy. Yo, man. >> I I I I'll say this. The selection very. controversial. Actually, so many in the. English press, especially the tabloids,

think Thomas Tuko is a German double. agent sent to sabotaging and from Yes. Cuz I think you left out the best. players we have. I think the selection. made sense. >> Okay. Here's the thing. I don't. understand. So, here's Let's go through. this. Let's go through this ourselves, right? Because I mean if we're honest, >> we are probably the foremost experts in. football in the world, right? We don't. we don't like to toot our own horn. Beautiful game. We are. >> So. >> let's talk about the players who who are.

left out. >> and agree or disagree about why they. should have been left out. So Phil. Foden, I love Phil Fodin. I think he's. one of the most talented players in the. world. But we cannot deny that Phil. Foden has had a wishy-washy season. Far. from his best. Yes. Right. And and I'm. going to go on the record and say I. blame the Manchester City system. My. opinion is because Manchester City has. so many players and so many options. When you experience a dip, you're just. on the bench immediately, right? Pep.

Guardiola can just put you on because he. can afford to put you on a bench. >> Other teams can't afford that, right? So. if you're playing for, you know, Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, any of them, if you're having a bad. game, you're having a bad game. And then. if you have another bad game, you have. another bad game because they don't they. don't have a whole first team sitting on. the bench like Manchester City does. >> So Pep benches US Foden. I think it does. two things to you. One, mentally it. messes with you because you go, "My. mistakes are punishable in in a really.

big way. Number two, it also means you. don't get to rectify the mistake. So in. the next game, you're not there. And. then if they win, you don't play again. If they win, you don't play again.". >> It's like if you swipe right on a girl, >> you're already swiping right. What's. happened to your dating? What's going. on? What's everything about? I've. >> discovered this thing called apps and. then you go on this date, you know, and. then you mess up. >> This guy's like a It's like we found. some guy like it's like some guy just. came to America and the first thing they. introduced him to was dating apps. >> Oh, I'm loving the. >> Everything is swiping right here. >> In fact, I had to walk 5 miles to find.

and now. >> you have to swipe five miles and then. you swipe right. >> Swipe. Yes. Physically. Oh, I'm loving. the. >> So, so what I'm saying is this. >> I think I think even beyond Pep. Guardiola for me, even if. >> Phil Foden had not had a wishy-washy. season, >> he still he has never delivered in an. English shot. He has. >> Yeah, but that's not the point. But. that's not the point though. I think I. think the point is. >> should he I I think we we're both. agreeing that it. >> when you look at the other players, it. doesn't make it does make sense that. Phil get left behind, unfortunately. >> Um Cole Palmer, yo, man. Yeah. He's one.

of the most I mean he's he's just he's a. game changer. >> Yes. >> You know. >> he can turn it on anytime. >> Cole Palmer is one of those players who. can create everything out of nothing. [clears throat]. >> Every time he touches a ball you don't. know what will happen. He's. unpredictable. But. >> ever since the injury he hasn't been the. same and he's been struggling. >> I think it's just a case of like. >> injury at the wrong time. That that's. all it is. So, it makes sense that he.

>> Okay, let's talk about Harry Maguire. >> Who did they pick instead of Harry. Magguire? >> I think they're going to go with uh. Magi. They're going to go with Dan Ban. from Newcastle. When you look at the. they have in defense, I think Maguire. was harshly done by. >> He was harshly done. >> I think he should have made he has if if. you're using form as the metric. Yeah. >> Maguire should have been on. >> Yeah. Because okay, look, I can see why. Mark Gayhei and um. >> Dan Burn. >> and Dan Burn will get in ahead of him,

>> but I don't get why he's not in the. squad. >> That's that's that's the argument. >> because because who else is there in the. squad? Surely you can take more than two. center backs with you. >> Yeah. No, no, they have there way more. center backs. I But the thing is, >> who else? Yo, Ryan, who else is in the. is is in the squad? >> Gerald Quansa. >> Yeah, Geralda. >> The Liverpool player who went on who. went on to buy. >> Yeah, but Jed Spence is a is a fullback. Yeah, [clears throat] he's a fullback. But I'm saying the fact that Joel Kuansa. made it on the team and Magguire didn't. That's why I think okay now's name was.

used also to keep Trent out of the. equation by Thomas Tuchel. >> He said we don't need Trent because we. had people like Jerel Kwans who play. both. >> Yeah. Who are versatile who can play. both. But but also now this takes me to. the point I wanted to make about this. England team. The players who bet on. themselves, the players who stepped out. of the comfort zone that's England in a. way. >> Yeah. >> Ended up benefiting. So I'll start with. Marcus Rashford. He went to Barcelona, ended up getting on the play. >> I knew you were going to bring him up. because of Barcelona. >> I'll start I I'll give you another one.

Jerka left England, went to Bay Lakusen, ended up playing, ended up getting on. the plane. Uh who player? Non Mu left. Chelsea, went to Arsenal, ended up going. on the plane while Kopad didn't. Another. player, Ivan Tony, left the continent, went to Saudi. Arabia, gambled big on himself. >> Did you include non Mario? He went from. London to London. >> Yeah, but he went from a team where, you. know, this is his boyhood.

>> Okay. Wait, wait, okay. So, let's amend. your statement then. So, you're saying. all the players, okay, the players who. moved and bet on themselves to try. something different. >> to get more minutes to. >> Yeah. Yeah. They they have all. succeeded. >> Yeah. They all benefited. Ivan Tony. people thought his career was over. >> Wait, Ivan Tony's in the squad. >> He's on the squad. Yes. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> People thought his career was over. He. made a big bet. Moved. >> He's made definitely made big bet. >> Some saying he can even bet on his game. [laughter]. By the way, I want to go on the record. and say, as you know, I'm not a fan of. sports betting. However, I think players.

should be allowed to bet on themselves. I see no reason that a player shouldn't. be allowed to bet on themselves winning. I see no reason. I see a conflict, though. >> No, bro. What's the conflict? What's the conflict? I'm going into a. match. >> Okay. >> I go to the bookies and I say, "I bet. you I'm going to win this match." What's. the conflict? You shouldn't be allowed. to bet against yourself. >> Against yourself? Yes. And you shouldn't. be allowed to bet on other teams because. you may have information. >> I think it's a slippery slope argument.

>> People always talk about slippery slopes. like we're in Diddy's parties here. Hey. guys, guys. >> You make it seem like Diddy actually had. a literal slope with like baby oil. did. my friend my I'm saying this I'm saying. >> the thing is the thing is if you keep if. you allow players to bet on games. whether for or against themselves then. it's just going to sp because betting by. it very nature no betting by its very. nature. >> means you get more addicted to winning. so how are we going to control you might.

start out betting on yourself and maybe. you don't score the goals you wanted to. score and then you end up betting it's. guys we make a simple system where. players can bet publicly on themselves. >> and then privately. >> You're not allowed to bet privately. the same way it is now. >> But then why not just. >> because in my world I think a player. >> who goes my salary is not that high. Maybe I'm not one of the top earning. players in the world. No, no, no, no,

no. They go like I I want to bet on. myself. I'm I bet that I'm going to do. it this game. Why aren't they allowed to. do that? >> Because what if they don't score? If he. says I'm going to score a hat trick and. doesn't score a hattick, that's then. he's lost his money. >> But come on, then the repercussions, mental health, and then. he's going to recoup that. He's going to. try to recoup that money somehow. >> Yo, why why can they not bet on. themselves? >> I like how you make it seem. >> Why can the team take sports bets and. >> I like how Trevor makes it seem like. sports bers actually have control. Most.

of them have no control. That's why. they're betting in the first place. So. they'll start out good faith betting on. themselves and then if they lose enough. times, you know. >> Okay. So what you're saying is you're. saying we're doing this to protect them. Yes. >> I can accept that argument cuz I'm. against sports betting. So I can accept. that. >> You didn't sound like you against sports. betting. >> No, no, no. >> It sounded like a mouthpiece for fun duo. and draft king at the same time. >> No, what I'm saying is this. I don't. understand how you can have a system. that then excludes one part because I'm.

accept the reason you've beaten me in. this and the reason I'm accepting defeat. in this argument is because you used the. elements of sports betting that I'm. against. >> Yes. >> It's addictive. It's a spiral. It takes. you down a rabbit hole. That's that's. why you've won. Do you get what I'm. saying? But I'm saying if we are going. to allow sports betting to exist, why. don't we let the players bet on them? That's all I was saying. If human if. human beings are robots without. emotions. >> Yeah. But I'm saying so I'm saying if. it's not good for the players, why is it.

good for the people? >> Cuz then that's one way for the people. to be invested. They can't play. They. can't get the rush from playing. >> So they must get it by being broke and. losing their houses. >> by trying to win something. >> See you. It sounds like you are lobbyers. for DraftKings and FanDuel and all of. them. >> Before we even move on, you know, the. funny thing about England, the funny. thing, the thing I love about England as. it is now, as you said, I'm a hater. thing I love about England is the. English media who are notorious by the. way for always picking a scape goat. who's always black every time they don't.

perform are caught in a very interesting. sport because they don't want they want. to succeed because he's coaching the. English team. >> but. >> but then if he succeeds he'll get a. knighthood. and there's nothing worse for an English. man than to feel like they owe something. to a German so I I just want to see how. that will play out cuz if Tuko doesn't. succeed, then they're going to frog. match him out of. >> of course, >> yes, they're going to Brexit him. >> They would love that, but then they also. love him to win, but then that comes.

with such a huge payoff and such a huge. debt. >> What do you What do you think their. chances are? How far do you think How. far do you see them getting in this. tournament? >> I think England are going to struggle in. the opening games. They always do lose. >> Wait, wait. Okay, so who are the games. we have? >> They always know. I I I always know. I. don't whether they're playing Uganda or. whether they're playing the US or. whether they're playing they'll always. struggle in the opening games but then. they'll make it deep. They'll make a. deep run and I think then Ryan who's the. who are the um who's England playing.

against in their in their opening games. What's the group stages? I'll have a. look for you. >> cuz I depending on who it is cuz one. thing England does really well is they. thresh small teams. >> No, they don't actually. World Cup they. always in the World Cup they struggle. always. >> England, Croatia, >> they always struggle. Yeah, that's. tough. England, Ghana, >> didn't Wait, wait, wait. England, Croatia. Didn't Croatia beat England in. Qatar? >> No, in Qatar they were beaten by uh. France. Hurricane missed the penalty. last minute. >> No. No. What do you mean? >> In Kata. Yeah. Hurricane missed the. penalty last minute and France dumped.

them out. Crochia was beaten by Argentina 3-0. >> Oh, >> yes. The thing is England. >> did beat a big team though. I can't. remember. >> England always struggled. >> Wait, wait, wait. What game? We were at. a game where England was up 1 nil was a. knockout game. Who were they playing? >> They were playing France or Jiru. equalized. >> and then they tried to. >> Yes. And then. >> was that was that a France game? >> Yeah, France. France took a two a two-1. lead. Hurricane missed the penalty. That. famous English. >> mentality falling and folding when the.

pressure is on. >> Okay. So, who else? Uh, England. Who? >> I feel like England. >> Ghana. Yes. >> The second match. >> Okay. So, England, Ghana, that's the. second match. That can also be a. anything can happen game two games in. that would be a dream scenario for me. But no, but England always England. always struggle but they always make it. through. >> Okay, wait. Those are two games they. could easily lose. They could they could. lose or. >> final games against Panama that they. should win. >> They will struggle. England always.

struggle when they are the favorites. cuz they don't. >> but they're always the favorites but. they're not favorites this year. >> They don't know how to No. when they're. playing against a team which is another. dog cuz they don't know how to break. down. >> low blocks. When a team sits back and. defends, England always struggles cuz. they don't have the tools to break down. a low block team. >> Damn. >> So, I think I think they'll make it to. the knockout rounds. But there's always. going to be with England there's always. drama cuz there was the opening game to. Croatia. Then the tablets are going to. fire up. You know what? There's going to. be crisis all hands on deck. The the.

English media takes for granted how. detrimental they are to the English. game. >> Incredibly detriment. >> Like I don't understand how they think. the team will win. when they are constantly bombarded with. some of the most negative rhetoric. >> They do what tabloids do. They build you. up. So pre- tournament they go like. we're going to win. It's coming home in. your favorite. We have the best team, the most talented team. Then the moment. there's a setback. >> they jump onto the team. And I think. that's going to happen. It happens every.

World Cup. But I think this time England. are going to make it. They always make. it deep. >> into the knockouts. But then they always. always struggle. They always always. struggle when the pressure is on. >> Okay. >> It's been the English cast like since. 1966. >> I mean, you know, there there's players. that are loving the team, so I I hope. they at least do well. But I mean, >> I want Ghana to go through. I like it. I. like it when they win enough games that.

have just enough hope and then it almost. crashing down and then you watch the. media melt down. >> Shame, man. >> I love it. >> It's a big one. I. >> almost love it more than the World Cup. >> You know what you probably love is how. the Spanish team snubbed all the Real. Madrid players. >> They had a terrible season. They none of. them deserve to make it. Which Madrid. player? Also, Also, I like how. >> I love I love how See, let's just pause. for a second there, Joe, >> and look at how look at how your face. changed. You got you you you tried to. fake it and you were like you're like.

[clears throat]. you're like oh they had a terrible. season and they yeah you don't think a. single Real Madrid player. >> none of them. >> deserve to be called up team. >> The thing people forget is that Real. Madrid doesn't have those many Spanish. players. >> Okay. Actually no that's a good. argument. Yeah because you've got Mbappe. you've got Venicius who plays on the. right these days. >> the team is filled it was Rodrigo got. injured then they tried I think Adagula. there. They don't. >> and career career play. >> career had a terrible season. Argentinian boy mascano.

>> Yeah. Masttoano. >> Yes. He's Argentinian. >> They never have the Real Madrid team. When you look at it, it's always like it. feels lucky when they have two Spanish. players in there. >> Yeah. You know, >> cuz they had Dean Hen. >> Yeah. >> Who then had a deep in form which means. now he was replaced by Milit and Rudiga. So they don't even have any Danny Kabah. is too old and he was replaced by Trent. Alexander Arnold in the team. So I don't. know why Madrid fans are saying. >> yeah those don't sound I don't know why. they're surprised they had a terrible.

>> Those don't seem like snubs for me. actually. >> So they don't seem like snubs at all. >> I think the thing Madrid fans don't like. is the fact that. >> way too many Barcelona players ended up. making it. But then Barcelona had the. best season and Barca plays way more. Spanish players. So, >> no, it makes sense. >> It makes complete sense. >> But it's the first time in decades that. Madrid hasn't had a representative to. the Spanish team. And that I think is a. damning indictment. [music]. >> Don't go anywhere cuz we got more what. now after this.

[music] But I think that's the funny. thing about this World Cup is almost. every call up, every selection has had. so much drama. You know, you have. England, you have Spain, you have. Germany. You know what's happening in. Germany? >> Well, I mean, German drama. >> goalkeeping situation. Yes. >> With Neua. >> Yes. >> I don't get why that's a drama. I'll be. honest. >> He retired, settled the qualifiers.

Another goalkeeper had to actually go. through the qualifiers. So what. >> did a good game did did a good job. And. now Neya comes back and he's going to. play in the World Cup. And the keeper. who helped them qualify Noi was. fantastic with Bayern Munich. >> Yes. But I'm saying. >> the keeper, let me ask you that. The. keeper who helped them qualify, is he in. the squad? >> Yes. >> Then that's fine. >> But he was supposed to be guaranteed. starting royal. >> Joe, it's fine. >> Trevor. >> Joe. >> Think of it this way. >> Joe. Joe. Joe. If you bring another. Tinder analogy here, my man, I'm going. to swipe I'm going to swipe left on you.

If I swipe right on this girl and then I. take her on a date and I treat her very. very well and she says I have an amazing. time and then she goes like your place. or mine and I go like oh my place and. then you go back to my place and then my. friend who was discouraging me from. actually swiping right on this girl goes. like now it's my time to shine. as you sit in the [ __ ] chair. It just. feels unfair. >> So let's let's the goalkeeper let's. improve on this analogy. Let's make it. better. Your friend said that he's out of the.

dating pool. >> Yes. >> Okay. You went on a date. Your friend. said, "I'm out of the date. I'm not. dating anymore.". >> But. outside the restaurant window, >> your friend was break dancing. >> Yes. >> Your friend was doing things. Your. friend was cooking. >> Your friend was singing. Your friend was. juggling. Man, your friend was putting. on a show. >> Yes. >> And outside the window, your date sees. your friend. >> Yes. I was also putting on a semi show. >> Fine. >> Yes. >> But as we know, semiis are not exactly.

the best. >> They don't count. Okay. >> And then your date saw your friend and. went, you know what? I would like to. date that guy. Would that guy like to date me? And then. your friend goes, you know what? I'm. back in the mix. That's exact. That's. more what happened. >> Yes. But I'm saying so I mean I guess. the moral of the lesson is if I ever. take a girl on a date I don't want. Trevor break dancing outside the window. >> Hey my friend, choose your restaurants.

wisely. >> I I just don't think there's this. there's no You know what? I'll tell you. what I'll tell you what's more dramatic. >> Yes. >> I'll tell you what's more exciting. This is the final World Cup where we get. to see it's it's the changing of a god. in one of the biggest ways possible. I. think before you move I think before you. move on to that the fact that Germany is. having mini drama for me tells me a lot. about this World Cup and I think I told. you this I think this World Cup has so. much drama it should be airing on Bravo. because Germans normally are very like. matter of fact teams are chosen.

>> you think it's it's it's that traumatic. >> this is huge it's like causing waves in. Germany cuz they think it's very unfair. to the keeper who led them they they. said no is amazing everyone wants him on. the team. >> I mean now you now you just you just. sold me another brilliant idea we should. go to Bravo. and sell them the the real housewives of. the World Cup. >> and it's just the players and then like. cuz now they'd be in a confessional and. then the other goalkeeper be like so you. know I don't even understand what. happened here because you know the whole. time I was playing for the national team.

and I was the main player 10 games and I. took the team to the World Cup. We. qualified with these hands in these. gloves and then all of a sudden that. [ __ ] Noya comes out of nowhere and. takes the spot. I mean, what are we. doing here, guys? And then they cut to. Noah. Then Noah's like. >> I like I like I like the fact that your. dramatic German is still not dramatic at. all. >> Yeah. I mean that's that was very. dramatic. >> Like he's being he's being sassy, but. it's not like dramatic dramatic house. >> Yeah. But this is like this is like for.

a German. This is. >> it's like big sus. Germans who watch. what I just did now are going to be. like, "Damn, that was in that was. intense.". >> That's Oh, they'll be like, "That German. needs to control their emotions.". >> You know what I mean? Like the scale for. Germans. Um, no. The thing I'm most. excited for, it's the changing of an. era, my friend. >> Last World Cup where we get to see. Messi, Ronaldo, and Neymar. >> Yeah, the last. >> these were. >> and Neyer. >> As I said, last World Cup where we get. to see Messi, Ronaldo, and Neymar. This.

guy just threw in. >> a goalkeeper. >> A goalkeeper who Yes. He is one of the. greatest goalkeepers of all time. >> Top three. Yes. But but he's not. Yes. >> Come on. >> Come on. H. >> He shouldn't be in the same We're. talking about players. >> who who made you sit at on the edge of. your seat. Yes. >> Who made you want to play like them? >> Neymar. Arguably the greatest talent. that again didn't achieve the heights. that he was supposed to. arguably.

because he didn't like want to. >> Neymar never seemed to enjoy the. pressure nor the lifestyle. >> He was Brazilian. >> But [snorts] no, but other Brazilians, they reached their peak. Brazilian. >> Ronaldo did it. >> No, he didn't. >> What do you mean? Ronaldo could have had. >> Does Ronaldo have a bolor? >> Yeah, but he could have he should have. five. >> Yeah, but he could but he should have. had two if we're honest. >> Yes, at least two. Yes, >> he should have had two. I think he was a. little bit robbed of one. He should have. had two. >> Yes, >> he did his Champions League. He did his. leagues. He did his World Cups. He did. amazing things. No, no, no. You want.

Brazilians always shine brightly for. such a short period of. >> time. But you want Brazilians to not be. Brazilian. That's your problem. >> No, that's why I said Neymar is. Brazilian. >> No Brazilian Brazilian. Neymar. underperformed for Brazilian even. >> How many World Cups does Neymar have? >> None. >> Okay. How many champions? >> Yeah, but he was he was also cast with. the worst team in Brazilian history. >> Answer my questions. >> How many World Cups does Neymo have? >> He has none. >> How many Champions leagues does he have? >> He has one. How many leagues does he. have? >> He has like three, four.

>> In a career of how long? >> A career that's been cut short because. of injuries. >> How many doors does he have? >> None. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> When you look, >> it's a travesty. >> When you look at what Neymar is capable. of. >> Yes. >> There is no person in this world who can. dispute. >> Even Messi has said, let's use your Lord. and Savior Messi. >> Okay. Even Messi has said, >> okay, >> when they've asked Messi, who are some. of your favorite players? He says, when.

I watch Neymar play the game, >> I beautiful Yoga Bonito as you. >> Messi says that. >> Yes, >> Neymar. So, I'm excited that we get to. see it's like one last chance for Neymar. to come out and just like just even if. it's like for two games, just just. remind everybody why he was supposed to. be that thing. In fact, I would even. hope that Neymar wins a World Cup just. because man, >> it would be amazing. >> Yeah, it would be good for him to win,

>> but it would be great for Brazil, >> but. in his cast, his generation cuz Ronaldo. for all his talents, he still played. >> alongside Ronaldo. >> He played against Neymar has been. carrying this team on his back. >> That's true. And when you look at. players like Rafa, players like. Venicious, they're great at their clubs. They still don't perform when they put. on the golden shirt. So. >> I don't hold the ball against him. because he was competing in the same. same era as Ronaldo and Messi. It was a.

bit tough for him to break through. H. but I also think I don't think he think. he didn't have the discipline. >> Yeah. But and he talks about it. You. see, he likes playing video games. He. likes living a different kind of life. And I think his dad puts too much. pressure on him, but that's just from. what I've seen. I mean, that's, you. know, um, >> his dad is like any sports dad, >> he's like Michael Jackson's dad, he's. like any sports, like, you know, Serena. Williams dad, he's like any any sports. dad who is invested in their kids. becoming the next big thing will always.

put them under. >> immense amounts of pressure. Yeah, that's true. Messi is just Messi. He he. can do anything. What do you think of. the What do you think of the Argentina. squad for this one? >> I think it's better than the squad in. 2022. Agree. I think it's more balanced. I think the fact that Messi is four. years older might count against them, but he's Messi. >> He's messy. >> All he needs is a moment of brilliance. >> He's messy. >> I think Ronaldo, the Portugal team, fun. enough, the most stable team. >> It's a good team. >> No drama. >> It's a good team. >> No selection drama.

>> Yo, >> I think Ronaldo I think Ronaldo might. might hold them back. >> It is a good team. >> I think accommodating Ronaldo in that. team might hold them back. It will. Ronaldo again. You can't like count him. out. >> You shouldn't count him out, but I but I. think. >> he'll do more. >> So, here's my opinion. Might be. controversial if you're a Ronaldo fan, but I think the greatest thing Ronaldo. can do is use. >> We're going to get We're going to get. banned at the stake. >> That's fine. Yes. >> The greatest thing Ronaldo can do at.

this World Cup. >> is be a cheerleader. >> Yes. Is is allow his team to do things. without him. If you look at what what. Portugal did at the Euros without him, I'm not saying that he's not good, and. I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the. team, but I'm saying like if Ronaldo is. able. to lessen his gravitational pull, both. in terms of being on the pitch, >> Yes. >> and in terms of like wanting the ball. and and man, that Portugal team, >> guys, we're talking about like you've. got Vitinia,

>> Yo Neves, >> Nez, Nuno Mendes, you've got Bruno. Fernandez, the whole team. Yes. who just. kick the ball wrong. Bernardo Silva, you've got like decent defenders at the. back as well. >> Yes, it's frankly between them France. >> The weakest play is probably the weakest. player is probably the goalkeeper. >> So, >> who saves penalties for fun? >> True. But beyond penalties though, he's. not the greatest. The weakest player is. by far Ronaldo. And again, we're going. as well. >> Rafael Yao is in there. Big difference. maker. I think for me the thing you say.

about Ronaldo and that's what makes this. team a Greek tragedy is the thing you're. saying is the exact thing Ronaldo can't. do naturally that's why I'm saying. Ronaldo. >> he can't step away. >> Cristiano Ronaldo. >> for the benefit of. >> if you are out there. >> this could be the moment where you shock. the world. >> no he can't it it goes against. everything in his DNA. >> yes but this is the moment. >> we love movies. >> what do we love about great movies the. unexpected happens if Cristiano Ronaldo.

If Cristiano Ronaldo comes out with that. team and at a moment where we don't. expect it, takes a back seat, Portugal. can win the world. But what also makes. great movies is the fact that normally. the character or the protagonist or even. the antagonist, they have a character. flaw that they can't quite overcome. And Ronaldo has that as a character. flaw. He has to be the main character. He can't step away, >> man. But if he does it at the right. moment, >> he won't step away. I watched I watched.

his team play in the Saudi league. He. can't step away. He can't help himself. >> Yeah. But that's the Saudi league. You. can't tell Ronaldo to step away at the. Saudi league. He was costing them more. than he was helping them. That's what. I'm saying. So that's what I worry. about. >> So for me, that's the funny thing. They. have to accommodate him. >> That's And as I've said, Ronaldo can put. the chances away, but then when he's not. putting the chances away, he can't. press. He can't hold up play. So you're. basically playing with 10. It's going to. be interesting. I mean, not as. interesting as as Iran playing in the. World Cup.

A lot of people have been shocked by. this because I guess they don't. understand how. special is the wrong word. Come on. You're you're a dictionary. What's. what's a better word to describe Iran or. or rather like how the World Cup creates. >> this bubble of. >> It's a world Oh, I didn't know you were. going to use bubble. I also have bubble. in my vocabulary. I thought you were. going to give us something magical, but. bubble I could have said as well. >> No, I also want I want to show that I. have the common touch. You know, I speak.

the language of the. >> common bubble. We'll go with bubble. there. Damn. >> I'm glad I I I'm glad I deferred to you, Joe. >> No, the World Cup. I was I was trying to. explain um to my American friends. >> Uh. >> Oh, you have some as well. [laughter]. >> I didn't want to mention it, but I was. trying to explain to my American friends. why Iran is playing in the World Cup. They were like, "But America's at war. with Iran. How can you How can Then I. was like, "Guys, >> the World Cup. is.

something that goes beyond your petty. grievances.". >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> And these ideas you have of world. leaders and political affiliations and. yo, >> everything stops. >> Yes. During the World Cup in South Africa in. 2010, do you know how much crime we had? >> None. >> Plummeted. Yes. >> None. Joe was just sh. >> When FIFA comes to your country,

>> FIFA takes over the country. >> It is like being invaded. >> Yes. Yes. >> By a very polite, benevolent force. >> It's a benevolent. >> occupying force. >> Yes. M. >> they come in they bring festivity and. joy and immen financial pressure if. we're honest to your country. >> What people forget FIFA actually enacts. its own laws to come and take over the. legal system because when someone. violates any copyright they want to try. them immediately prosecute them. Yes.

Your your your legal system. >> it just pauses. So, Iran playing in the. World Cup is not as crazy as people. think because Iran made it into the. World Cup. But I do want to see what. it'll be like when Iran is on the pitch. >> It will be interesting because there's a. huge Iranian diaspora in America. >> Yeah, but like. >> so I'm with you there. I'm with you. there. But you know, >> they won't be wanting for fans like. they'll have enough fans like people.

will show up. Yeah, that's true. actually. Uh but it's going to be very. interesting because they were initially. based in America and then the Iranian. the the the delegation demanded that. they be moved out of America. So they're. going to be flying into America playing. the games and then going back to to. Mexico. >> Why would they do that? >> They move their base to Mexico. >> Why would they do that? >> They didn't want to be in America. >> Man, now you're hurting. Now you're. cutting off your noses by that's. >> No, they they went like would rather. train in Mexico. Come cuz they're. playing all their games in America. Yeah, but that's you see you've hurt. your [clears throat] that to me like.

you've now your team is tired. They you. don't you don't want to you don't want. to do that. I mean we'll see what I I I. predict I predict that that won't go. >> No, no, but you're right. I mean South. Africa again. I was I was explaining to. my South African friends uh during 2010. You have me? >> Yes. No, I have some. Uh I have some. besides. >> When were you explaining to me? [laughter]. >> You meant South Africa when North Korea. played in South in South and people like. oh we didn't know North Korea is even. allowed to play in the World Cup. But. that's the thing, that's the special. thing about the World Cup. England. played Argentina in ' 86.

>> Yeah. >> Just I think two three years after they. had fought over the Falcons, that's the. special thing about the World Cup. Once. the World Cup starts, >> forget your wars, forget your Easter. game. >> They should include a new rule. If two. countries. >> are fighting. >> are fighting and play against each other. in the World Cup, whoever wins that game. wins the dispute. You know that's funny. because in 1998 Iran played cuz Iran and. the US have been. >> mortal enemies forever. They played in.

98 Iran won 2-1. >> They played in Qatar which was supposed. to be like the revenge game and it. turned out to be because the US won 2-1. So fingers crossed. Yeah. Fingers. crossed. Yeah. They they meet in the. knockouts and then whoever wins that. should be the rule. Whoever wins, we open up the straight of Hummus. Whoever wins wins the straight of. >> Yes. Yes. It should be the. >> Now, this is this is sports betting now. >> That's high stakes. >> This is ultimate sports betting now.

>> That should be. >> Put your money where your mouth is. Who. do you think would win, Iran or USA? Cuz. Team USA, if we're honest, is not. looking that great. >> I think Iran, >> like the tools that they have. >> I I think Iran would win simply because. of the stakes. like when I feel like the. US when they are playing. the few times I've seen them play. against just two times it feels like the. Iranians know that there's more at stake. than just the result. >> Oh, they're playing for their family. >> Yeah, they're playing for everything. They're playing for national pride and. also they're smaller country. geopolitically. So, this means.

everything to them. The Americans are. playing Yeah. You know, but they're not. playing the way they don't play with the. same passion they play against Mexico. If you've watch. American players are really locked in. their fights happening when they play. against Iran they. >> it's not their. problem. They don't see them. Okay. So. what are your predictions? >> Who do you think is going to win the. World Cup? >> Let's start with the easy ones. My. prediction is France. I say France is. going to win the World Cup. I would love. to say France but I think history forces.

me not to because no team has because no. team has made three World Cup finals and. won two out of them. So France made you. going to let history [ __ ]. >> yes cuz France France France made the. final in 2018 won it made the final in. the last World Cup. >> History has shown that no one has. responded to you swiping right but that. doesn't stop you. >> We can change that right now. Where's my. stop you? >> We can change that. Now you forget one. thing. I'm on a podcast. Exactly, Joe. Anything love guys on a podcast.

>> Anything can happen. Women love guys on. podcast. Women are always like, "Oh, more of this, please. Oh, please. More. guys just talking. Oh, please. We need. more of this." Women are like, "Oh, wow. You have a microphone and you're. espousing opinions that are not based in. fact nor in expertise. Please. Give me more. [laughter] Oh, you're. going to have a great time, Joe. So, forget history. What are you saying? >> I think Spain is going to win it. >> You think you think Spain will win the. World? >> I think I think Spain is Let's balance. Can we can can you do me a favor? >> Yes. >> Remove the word think. >> Yes. >> This is not about thinking.

>> I firmly believe Spain is going. >> Thank you very much. Okay. So, Spain's. winning the World Cup. I say France is. winning the World Cup. All right. Now, who do we think as a backup a darkhorse. winner of the World Cup? >> Discounting agenda because of Messi, I. think. No way. >> No, you can't discount Argentina. You. have to choose. >> No, because a team with Messi can't be a. dark horse. >> No, they are a dark horse. >> No, a dark horse is one you don't expect. to win. >> So, you expect them to win? I expect to. Yes. No way because they have they went. through their qualifiers.

>> almost unbeaten. They have. >> Erling Harland. >> Arling Holland. They have Solo. >> Yeah. >> They have like a very good uh. >> They have a solid team. >> Yeah. They have a solid team. >> Oscar Bob is isn't he? >> Yeah. Um Odigard. >> Yeah. >> They have like a solid team. Yeah. They. have a very very. >> You can get the ball from the back to. the middle to the front, you can win any. game. >> They have a very very good team. So I. think they're the team that might. surprise us the most. If you're talking. about dark horses, that's a team that. might go further than we expect. >> Which African team do you think has the. best chance?

>> Wow. [snorts]. [snorts] I I would love to be hopeful. and say maybe Ghana, but I watch their. friend against Mexico. They were not. [gasps] I I look. >> s. >> Sagal is always in there but I don't. think they have. >> discipline. >> No no I think I think money is a bit. older. I think they played well in the. African Nations Cup which they won under. you know the circumstances they won in I. feel like the North African teams never.

go far in the World Cup. They always. >> um Morocco had the darling run. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I I think I would look. at Morocco. I look at but Morocco. surprised us in Kat because they were. the surprise. I think teams are going to. be. >> prepared for them. Yes. >> So I would go and then the other team. like. Kong I think they would just. >> I think they I think I'm not thinking. I'm not think they're making up the. numbers but I'm thinking they'll just. hope that they have a better outing than.

they did the World Cup they went in. which was 1974. >> and they lost so badly that their. president almost threatened to not allow. them back into the country. So I hope. anything better than that, anything. better than your present going like oh. you're going to become persona. will be a win for. >> oh man. [laughter]. as someone said they left not with their. heads held high but at least they still. had their heads. >> So anything better than that I think I I.

think Morocco I think Moroco and Sag the. two teams that also made it to the final. of the Nations Cup. So if you're going. by the phone book, yeah, they have the. best chance. >> The best chance of the not best chance. hers. >> But I think Morocco really surprised us. because they were surprised. Our teams. are going to be ready for them. >> I'm excited, bro. This is going to be a. big one. We're going to be doing we're. going to be doing the watch party. That's going to be dope. >> But also remember there also so many. small teams. That's the thing I also. love about this World Cup. There's so. many small small teams. Cape Vad Kurakaw. use. >> Are you just making up names?

>> No, these are teams. These are teams are. going to be playing. And I think. >> I feel like now you're just like making. up words. I think it sounds [laughter]. >> first of all it's Cape Town. Okay. I. don't know why this guy just like making. up things. >> There are white people watching going. like is he casting is is a Spanish word. >> No, I don't. Yeah, but I think I think. it's going to be. >> No, I'm joking. It is it's great. It's. great for them. But. >> that's that's a great thing about. expanding the World Cup. It gives every. country a chance. Use who knew are going. to be at the World Cup. I think it also. gives Americans a chance to learn.

geography without invading countries cuz. normally [laughter]. normally the only way Americans learn. about countries is. >> you know you know I'm laughing because. you think Americans are going to be. watching the World Cup [laughter]. at home. >> You think Americans are going to watch. the Kurissau game? >> I think they're going to be watching the. Coriss game if we do it as part of our. World Cup watch party. >> I mean we'll we'll see. It's going to be. fun. It's the perfect group of Americans to. watch the game. >> It's it's it's going to be fun. As long.

as they score a lot of goals and they. make it exciting. >> Here's here's what I I pitched to FIFA. If you want as many Americans watching. this as possible, >> you should engineer a few moments. >> So. >> So you should bring the games. >> No, not the games. Engineer a few. moments. So like at the be like have a. fight break out. between two teams before a game. >> and then have it go viral. >> Oh, you mean the teams, not the fans. >> Not the fans. The teams have a few like.

moments cuz I think that's also. something that that that hampers uh. hampers soccer like soccer. The thing. that hampers soccer in America is there. aren't enough personal storylines, you. see. So in America they'll go it it's. LeBron James and the Lakers going up. against you know Gildis Alexander and. OKC. It's like they make it a personal. story. They they make it a thing that. that gets you vested. We just go like ah. Kurasa Usbekista that that doesn't get. Americans in. Americans want to know. >> you need a dramatic stakes to be.

>> they want the antag they want Luke. Skywalker and Darth Vader. So Americans. got to create that. They should also. encourage the players to like make. videos like Messi, Ronaldo. It would be. great if they made videos to each other. Like, >> let me tell you something, BROTHER. I. WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND. THIS MIGHT BE MY. LAST WORLD CUP, BUT I'M COMING FOR YOU, MESSI. I'M COMING FOR YOU, BROTHER. AND. A lot of people say that you're going to. be me, BUT YOU AIN'T GOT WHAT IT TAKES. >> SO, TURN it into a bit of wrestling WWE. >> just a little bit. >> And I think you're going to bring the. American crowd in.

>> I'm I'm I'm here's my. >> And if they don't do it, I'll I'm more. than willing to do it for them. Look, we'll use AI. I'm a huge huge World Cup. fan. But here's the thing about the. World Cup held in the US. And I was just. thinking about this when you when you're. talking about how we can quot more. American fans. You know, when the World. Cup was held in Qatar, Yeah. >> there was a huge backlash. It was a. controversial controversial project. >> and we went like, "Okay, next World Cup. the host should have a proud footballing. history. >> cuz Kata had none.". >> Yeah. >> They should have a great LGBTQ record.

cuz Kata had none. uh they should uh. have no corruption, no stench of. corruption cuz Kata had a lot of that. We went like there should be women's. rights should be respected by the next. host cuz Kata clearly didn't respect. human rights. And then like you know. what they shouldn't have like an. immigrant labor crisis. That's what that's the checklist. Oh and. also like okay there should be no gun. violence. There should be no they. shouldn't have a broken health care. system. They shouldn't have systemic.

racism. And it should be okay. The next. horse at least should not be a failed. democracy. And what did FIFA do? FIFA. chose the USA. >> I hope you have a green card. >> They had one job. >> and they somehow managed to pick a team. recording. words. I hope you you don't have any. international flights planned soon, buddy. >> But still super excited because you know. when the World Cup starts, then all that. flies out of the window the moment the.

kickoff happens. >> Hey, man. That's look one of the biggest. things about it. >> It begins. >> as soon as the FIFA World Cup kicks off. The world stops, comes together. And I. don't even say this in like a cheesy. way. >> There are few moments other than wars, >> yes, >> that bring as many people together in. one spectacle. There are few moments. that connect as many human beings as a. World Cup. There are no moments where. Kurasau is going to be having a. conversation with New Zealand, having a.

conversation with Iran, having a. conversation with South Africa, having a. conversation with Brazil, having a. conversation with the United States, having a conversation with Mexico, having there's no other event, >> forget conversation. There's no other. event where people from Usbekistan are. going to be trash talking America. >> And that's the good thing about the. World Cup like you get a chance to trash. talk. And I think our World Cup watch. party is going to. give fans who are not as. deep into the game a very good outlet. because it just. >> Well, I mean, if you're going to be.

there, >> it just won't be like. >> if you're going to be there, even if. people don't like football, if they're. fans of dating apps, they've come to the. right place. I'll tell you that. >> Maybe that's what we should call the. World Cup to America. That's that's how. that's a perfect way to describe it. It's like Coachella meets Burning Man. meets you swiping right ON DATING APPS. AND GETTING SWIPED right back. Not being. left on red. That's to me how it feels. And I'm pretty excited right now. >> You know what I'm going to do now, Joe? Really excited. >> I'm going to swipe left on this episode. and say that it's done. Uh this was.

great, man. I'll see you I'll see you. next week and we'll um. >> we'll see where we go from here. It's. going to be exciting. And uh for. everyone else who's joining us, >> welcome to the World Cup. Oh, it's going. to be a roller coaster ride of emotions. >> Or as they say in [music] South America, Munda. >> Welcome to Ma. >> Welcome. [music]. All right. Dope. Thank you so much for watching the. episode. If you enjoyed [music] it, pass. it on to a friend. If you didn't enjoy. it, pass it on to your friend still. Let.

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