If I Ruled The World: Careful What You Think | What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast

I just because I do want. to vote yes for one of your ideas because I don't think I ever had. Yeah. Oh sorry I do I really do like I don't want it. I cause you know, people hit me up, they're like, stop bullying Trevor. I don't feel like I'm bleeding. I mean, just like he says crazy stuff, like. So and so. My friend and my brother, I want to support you and your ideas and.

This is what now. with Trevor Noah. Are you ready to rule the world? Yes. Always am living. Welcome to my favorite game. If I ruled the world. As I tell both of you and anyone who listen, my dream. is to be a dictator of a very small nation. Of a group of people who.

not wanted me to be a dictator. But they were like, yeah, that sounds like a cool idea. So I didn't like take power from them, which is just was the way it was. Okay. And yeah, I always think of what I would do to make my world perfect. And that's why I play this game. I feel like Josh has come in. because last time you, you weren't happy with how we ran. If I ruled the world you felt a bit. I gave up on. Yeah. What was that. No, no. You know I think I was more like I always come to. if I rule the world like I rule the world like, this should work. So then would y'all hit me with things I didn't think about?

I feel like I'm not really rule that the world. I feel like I feel like my plans are falling apart. So I get a little vindictive because I'm like, I, I you ask me, what do I rule the world? You didn't tell me to plug up all the holes in my life. But remember, you have to vote. That's the game. Yeah. If I ruled the world. Each of us takes the role of magnanimous dictator, slash world leader, slash king slash God person.

We change the world in any way that we want. However, you have to win the votes of the other two people. We also ask everyone who listens to the show. if they want to submit ideas, and then we vote on them. So let's go through some of the suggestions. Now, I haven't seen any of these so I don't know okay. All right. Let's see if I rule the world. Listen to suggestions. Here we go. This is from Rebecca. Rebecca says if I ruled the world, I would make it mandatory for world leaders to spend an hour creating art. And it can be anything drawing, painting, ceramics, glass blowing. before they make any critical decisions on important matters.

such as military action, immigration, environmental policies, etc.. Absolutely not. No, just what George W Bush is doing now is making art. That means. some really dark stuff is going down. If you have to make art. But I feel like he do that in reverse. He already killed all the people I know and now he's doing okay. Like that's true. I think I would vote for this because I think that one. of the most humbling things of the world is like doing an art that you don't do,

and then try to look like an expert in the same day. Yeah. Like if you're like, hey y'all, we have to invade. But then the people just saw you and they were like, bitch, you can't draw. How are you going to let us get killed and you can't draw? Yeah. Me like you have this. So the failure. Yeah. Okay, I like this a closet. So yours is a, I am a yes for this Cristiana. No. I'm your. No. Yeah, I'm I I like it, but I'm a no.

And I was a yes until Josh said his. I'll tell you why, Rebecca. No, because now I actually agree with Josh. But like, I think men of we have like the most sensitive egos. Oh, yeah. So if you like, fail at the pottery, you might invade a country. to show how good you actually are. Oh, yeah. So I agree with you, Josh. Yeah, but I think that so it's a no for me. Sorry, Rebecca. Fabian says if I ruled the world, I would prohibit political careers. Everyone should have an occupation outside of politics. Government positions are one time thing and temporary.

These positions should be considered a rare occasion to serve the nation. I vote yes immediately. I also vote yes because you really want to go out like an all star. Yeah, I bet some of these people. start their political career and say it all the right stuff. But then you could tell after like three years. they're like beat down and they tried to pass you same bagel. Yeah, yeah. You have to be, I guess cynical. Yeah. They get second and then 50 years later they're like, so it's like, what do you mean? So you don't even have to be there. Yeah. No career politics. It's a I agree. Well done Fabian. You just got three yeses. Wow. That's a good one.

All Rights Center says if I rule the world, I would change the curtains. in fitting rooms at stores to something that provides a little more coverage. Because they always remains a very peek through a ball gap. And those two curtains have never fully met. It's very specific. This is super specific. Says this Senate due to someone spy on you. This is why I feel like this is a complaint for a department store. Not like a suggestion 45 it's also like if you ruled the world.

Yeah, imagine you have all the power in the world. and you use it to make the curtains in dressing rooms. Can I tell you right now, this person is having a good life. because they were like, if I ruled the world, I really would change it. Hey, except for this one thing. I mean. Yes. Yeah, because it's not a big deal. Yeah, I vote yeah. I'm not against it. I don't see any. Yeah, honestly, to vote against it. Low key makes it seem like you like peeking. So I think I know. Yes.

All right. So, Senate, you got three yeses. Julie says if I rule the world, I would have government funded monthly. barbecues in every neighborhood. I don't trust the government to buy my meat. Well, they defunded, it's just funded. I is funded, so I guess they just pay for. You can go and buy your meat wherever you like. I've got so many questions. Like, do we have to show up to the barbecues? Not just grilling. Using the grilling, there's always someone to do the grilling. The neighborhood I live in, I don't know if I'd want the people to make me me. Can I tell you right now this feels like a bureaucratic way.

to get at the cookout? Yeah, I need you. I mean, I know infiltration. What? I see. this some coed tell pro Trump buddy. Yeah, yeah, I like the sentiment though, because she's trying to get people together. Yes. Julie's trying to I, I vote yes because the heart is in the right place. Okay. I also vote yes. The con tell pro was a joke. I do think that there's, there's a world where. using government funds to build community is what government should be for. Yes.

Okay, I like that. I. I do like the idea. Okay. I'm going to go. No, because I think people eat too much meat already. All right. Ben comes in and says if I ruled the world, there should be fast lanes and slow lanes on the sidewalk. I'm just going to go no, because that doesn't work on the highway. People are just going to walk where they walk anyway. And then who decides what fast is? What is? Because you don't have a speed. You don't have a speedometer on you as a person. What is fast? What is slow?

I think that fast and slow is dictated by the local community, like, because then they, they, they measure it. The steps of people in New York versus people in Portland. Yes. And it's like, by and large, all New Yorkers walk faster. way for people, way faster. So it's like I think the I think everyone starts to figure it out. once you set those lanes up, the real problem is there's actually not enough sidewalk to go around. because you got to go this way, in this way, and you have to do it. fast and slow. I don't know, that's four lanes aside,

and then you've got someone, like screaming at you. It is the fast lane, buddy. Like, how fast are you walk. What is I don't know I'm sorry Ben. For me it's a no yes and no for me getting real ableist, right? Yeah. Just like walks over. Yeah. No. Ben, I will tell you, though, if you try to make your own fast. lane, just walk with your fists out, people get out the way. All right? And then the last one comes from Charles, who says cars should have more than just a turn signal. There should be a little LED. sign where you can send a short message to another driver like, my bad,

I didn't mean to cut you off, or your wipers are on or move over. Wow, Charles, you are setting yourself up for mad Max levels of fury on the road. Yeah, you're going to write messages on people's lights. See, I would be like, sometimes I'm in the like, oh my God, I like a hairstyle. And I'd love to be able to say it, but they can't hear me. If I could say what my lights at be amazing, you realize people are now calling from their cars? Yeah, yeah, I think that didn't even cross my mind. Oh yeah. That's there's going to be guys were like, I like your hair. It's nice. Yeah. Nice hair. Nice.

I've been following you for a few blocks. Hey, hey what's your number? I don't I don't see a baby. See that backseat? Hahaha. You know, I know, I think I think it would be a bit rough. because they would all have to be pre-planned, so we'd have to figure out like 4 or 5 messages. You know, you could have a dynamic one. You could just have like a, like a dot matrix that that displays. that you could just you could like say it and I would just show it. I just don't think that's a good idea. It's bad enough that we already have like, I don't see. And how would people, like, read the light?

That's what this is what? I'm just saying. This is trouble. I mean, we're getting towards a. self-driving, so you're going to have to do something. I hear you, but it's a no for me. Yes or no for me? I mean, probably a no because I don't understand it, but yeah. Yeah, I, I feel like that's what people in Congress say every week. Yeah. I'm going to vote no on this. because I don't understand it, but I don't really get it. But yeah. All right. Now for the big rounds. So who wants to go first?

Josh? Christiana I'm willing to go as well. Can we like, do a coin toss to pull? Oh, just paper scissors. Okay. That's not enough. Oh. So Christiana, I beat Josh Yang to beat that. You beat me? If someone just beat me. Yeah, and you beat Josh? Yeah. So I go fast. Okay, fine. Then. Oh, okay. Okay. Let's go. Christiana. Okay. I didn't think I'd lose the game of random noise. I don't do loss. Okay? Okay. Yeah, okay.

If I ruled the world, I would designate mandatory reality-TV. for everyone over 18 for one hour a week. You can pick whichever show you like, but you have to watch a reality TV show. You have to watch it. You have to watch a reality TV show. Okay. Now you you've roped me in. Why? Because I actually think reality TV is where so much of real life. is playing out that actually, like, narrative TV doesn't have at the moment.

Like reality TV, you see lots of older women grappling with things. like alcoholism or divorce or cancer. and all you see couples going through. nursing somebody who's ill, or then you see somebody. that, like, just killed their wife, or I made like different. races, different classes, socio economic groups. It's like a very good picture into the country you live in, in a way. that often people are very siloed in their like media consumption, whether, you know, Fox News. Yeah, yeah.

MSNBC's another thing. You can watch, The Real Housewives of New York, Atlanta, Beverly Hills, you don't know who is a Republican. You don't. I fell in love with a woman. And I turns out she's a big Trump. But now I'm in love with her. So it's like I there's no going back. And it helps you see the humanity in people that you would otherwise not see. and get to know people that you probably don't come across in real life. It could be like you're watching a show about the Duggar family, that it's not on air anymore, and you're like, oh, I'm learning about like evangelical Christians. You have all of these children,

or The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is set in Mormon. But wait, wait, wait. But people can choose the reality show. So what if everyone's just, you know, randomly assigned the show? Okay, so you don't know what show, you don't know a show, and you have to watch it? Yeah, you have to do it. It's like you have to be engaged. You can't be on your phone. You like, you're like. I mean, you can be on your phone. I think a great thing about the reality show experience. is that a lot of people tweet, live tweet. when they're watching it, and they're covering on Instagram and stuff. Okay. If you want to connect with other viewers via social media, that's great. And you wouldn't just make people watch a documentary once a week.

No way. Because documentaries are so boring. You go, they're talking heads. They were like, oh my God, I miss statistics, I hate documentaries, oh my God. And especially the vanity documentaries. When you like basically got access to the person so nothing bad comes up. So no, no, no, no documentary. Let me tell you right now, documentaries have that thing. They're starting to get that thing where there's a real wrestling match. going on with, like, we want to tell your story, but also don't make me look bad, but also you have to give us a lot of stuff.

I'll tell you right now, there's, one of the most incredible, soccer players, female soccer players of all time. Hope solo has an incredible documentary out. And I really love the doc because I felt like it. gave me everything while still like, not protecting her, but like, like. shielding us a little bit from things that make us judge her harshly. Yeah, but there is one point in it that I really liked where they had her. talking about being like the real, like, rabbit.

We need to get up to this level type. person on the team, like the Jordan of the team. Yeah. And they use the B-roll. And you could tell the B-roll she was cursed. The shit happens. But they didn't play that B-roll because they probably knew it would make her. It will make it. Yeah. And she was already telling us that's what she was doing without saying the words. So she's like, I could be tough on my teammates. Right? But in the B-roll is her be like. It's like like coaching while she's playing.

And so I get what you're saying. It's like the documentary has a filtered nature that reality TV doesn't have. And people on reality TV are, by and large, the most shameless human beings on the planet. They are. So you you think reality TV has become more genuine than documentaries? It's more. It is the it shows so much truth like. But for instance, if you watched The Real Housewives of Potomac right. now, Karen, who is in prison for a DUI, this is a black woman. She called herself the Grand Dame, very sophisticated upper crust black woman.

Yeah, you you you. you didn't even believe was capable of getting drunk and being sloppy. That's the image she put out there and in my personal life, I've been talking about black women and alcoholism. I'm like, I know a lot of black women who drink a lot, right? But it's not something that we talk about publicly in, group chats or whatever is was seeing it play out at brunch. And Karen is like showing this mirror to like these experiences. And then you get there's a lot of people that go to prison for like stuff like,

a lot of fraud, like insurance fraud and like boot time, a grifter, things. that you have these people in these affluent suburbs. that do to get their money, I think is a very American story. But you don't necessarily talk about. So, yeah, you get kind of these shameless people who are a bit narcissistic. who, craving fame or attention when I think a lot of people. want attention in this country, and it makes me fall in love with people. that you never thought you'd fall in love with, who are very different from you. And shameless people are sometimes the most honest, shameless people do the same shit.

Yeah, they do things for the same reasons that we do them, but we either. rationalize or like, like rationalization and sort of lying to yourself about it. But then there's also the lying to the world about it, like, no, no, no, I, I did for this. where shameless person is like, I was trying to get the money and try to. I got a plug. Yeah. Why would I not get the money? And it will help you understand Trump. Oh okay. Yeah. Because people have never understood Trump. But you think reality TV helps people understand Trump more. Yeah. Because is he is a product.

I think he is a product of reality. He is he the type of person that would go on. We had a lot of his a lot of his facade comes from The Apprentice. Yeah. Like if you watch Trump Pre Apprentice, watch him in interviews, watch him as a person. He doesn't have the exact same vibe to him once you know like post Apprentice. Yeah I think because that the only apprentice. they were like oh you got to do this and you got to you're fired. And they gave him the catchphrases and like the and the look and. I think he just sort of adopted that character and he. Yeah, I can see that, you know, when you when you first said that I was firmly a.

no, I was like, this is a crazy idea, but I think you've warned me, I think one, because you I think you've given a good justification. But two, I just think we need to share more experiences as people. So if everyone is watching a show weekly, everywhere in the world, I do like that everyone tomorrow has something to connect around in the office. Yeah, yeah, I think we need more collective. to have a collective, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm going to vote yes to reality TV.

one hour every week, forced upon you. Yeah. And I think it sparks conversation. You you would normally have to go to a very serious place to have. Like I find that like watching like this blind or watching Love Island gets like, Sally and I. talking about relationships in a, in a in a way that's like fun. because of what they are doing that has nothing to do with us. Because if I okay, if I just walk in the apartment cold and I'm like, what do you think about, like when people don't know.

how to talk about cheating in their past? It's like having a very different conversation. because then now you can't convince a person you don't mean you. But then when we watch someone on Love Island, it is a nice. like to be like kind of that, that like it's a, it's a great catalyst. Yeah. Yeah. And it helps yield moments like, like Trevor was saying where it's like what. very quickly one of my favorite reality TV moments of all time is on Love. and Hip Hop Hollywood. Yeah.

When these two women were arguing and you know how they get them drunk, they get them from and and they go to an event. But no one at the event but them, there's no event. And then they get to the event and they're drunk and they're arguing. And there was this one woman who had slept with this other woman's friends. Man. Yeah. And so she was trying to tell her, like you, Chevalier subways, like, don't tell me to value myself about myself. Just like he's hitting my phone, blah, blah. And they're going back and forth, back and forth. Then the woman whose event it was, she, like, clearly has been drinking too much all day, and she throws up. and the other woman go, they're about to fight.

And the other woman goes, did you just throw up? And that is the realest moment I think I've ever say, like, forget the cameras for a second. Forget everything. Cause everything. Did you just throw up and like she almost as are you. Okay. But then the other girl who just threw up was try to say basically like, yeah, you got so much plastic surgery. Makes me sick to my stomach. So baby, throw up. She was like, oh, okay. But that's what we're doing. All right. Fine. But like that moment I was like, that's a real person. Yeah. So I vote yes. Yeah. And also I was going to say, I know you both like dress.

I should mention 90 Day Fiancé. Fascinating look into immigration. Oh yeah. No they all these you know wrong. Yeah. Like really. Yeah. You're not wrong. It is. It is a crude look into many issues that as Josh says so. eloquently, we, we wouldn't get into otherwise I like it. It's a yes. Well done guys. Wow. Yeah. You just kicked it off with a double. Yes. Yeah. Wow. That's great. I think this is my first time. Yeah. I feel like you're the only person I voted for though. I feel like I definitely vote against Trevor every time everyone goes against.

Yeah. Everyone against me. Yeah. We're going to continue this conversation right after this short break. Okay. So I'll go and, this is more playing God a bit than just like, a government mandate. If I rule the world, I can play God. Yes, the god. God. If I ruled the world. Josh, I would make it, actually hurt to be stupid.

So, like, if somebody. Man. Oh, yo, somebody is willfully ignorant, yo, was because. Let me pitch you this, right? Let me pitch you this. Get ready because I think I think you're against me now. And you'll be. I'll let you land. I'm. I'm absorbing this. I'm not against you. I'm. I'm in shock right now. Because if you are, if you are someone who, in spite of everything that you know. and everything you've been told is like, you know what? I'm gonna stick a fork in the socket and you stick the fork in the socket.

It hurts you because your dumb idea ended up getting you hurt. Yeah, it cost you nothing to tell everyone else in the room. who was impressionable to put a fork in the socket. Okay, so if you just by saying and knowing it's wrong, put a fork in the socket. It's essentially Pinocchio, but with pain, you know, you know that. you're being willfully ignored, You know that you're lying. You know that. And so I wouldn't put my hand on the lever. I wouldn't be controlling. Yeah, but you would have to have some actual barrier.

because it costs people nothing to spread misinformation. And it costs people nothing to, like, lead people for the sake of manipulation. in a way that is, like, willfully dumb. I mean, I don't mean people who don't know things yet. So, okay, this is the this is the clarification I think I'm getting. So you're not saying people who quote unquote are stupid. You're not saying that you don't mean somebody who's aptitude may not be at the. No, that no, that's not what you're saying. You're saying if somebody does or says something that they know is stupid.

Yeah. And they're just doing it to either act the fool or. Yeah, all those people in the wrong direction. Yeah. But you know, now, can you give me, like, more concrete examples? Alex Jones will be in constant pain. Hahahahahahahaha. That's that's what I mean. Someone who, like, like, forever. Because what Alex Jones does that's particularly insidious is that he, he plays on things where whenever it's the right time and he's on the right. podcast, he's an entertainer and he's somebody who's just like, who's just like, taking the piss out of the whole thing,

even though he's taking the piss out of playing a character. But then, then when when it's just you and Alex and you, I mean, an impressionable person who really feels like downtrodden. and you don't know who's to blame. or if it's your fault or whatever, Alex is taking advantage of those people. He's catering to people who need something to to blame. That's like physical. And they can get out there and they can, like, attack that person, which is why you. you have like Alex Jones fans, like spitting on and following and harassing.

people who who are families of victims of, school shootings. Right. Yeah. But it's like Alex now. And look, if he doesn't know, then it actually wouldn't hurt that much. But he knows. He knows what he's doing, and he knows when he's lying. Okay? I used to wonder if Alex was, like, this crazy person. or if he genuinely is this grifter who knows what he's saying is is false. Because what he. The two things that made me feel like, oh, no, he knows what he's doing. is anytime on the rare occasions that he is like right about something,

he then uses that to leverage 19 other things that happen. But that's the classic conspiracy theorist move. Then when the lawyer for the families who are suing Alex Jones over Sandy hook, when that lawyer said, you have such an incompetent, counsel. that they accidentally sent me your text messages, I sent that to the court saying, hey, I don't think they meant to send me this. Yeah. So it entered into discovery.

Then I let your counsel know that they had sent me this thing. and they didn't respond. So now I have all your text messages where you're saying that you know. that these things aren't true. And Alex's face, a crazy person would be like, that didn't happen or whatever. Yeah. It's just like the reaction, oh, no. Yeah, yeah. So now I know that you're like, oh, that's why he lost the case, right? That's why you have that no judgment against. And so that's what I mean, I like it's one of those things where it kind of okay, but this. Oh before you go in the paint. I think I get what you're going this and I may be able to follow.

I think it needs a bit of refinement. Are you open to refinement. Yeah. Open to refine. All right. Let's go. So I'd be in pain. So I feel like you may be. conflating being willfully dumb. and maybe being malicious or maybe being opportunistic. I think we're talking about different things. I see what you're saying. Do you know what I mean? Because. Yeah. Yeah, some people are willfully ignorant, but not necessarily malicious intent.

Like, you can be willfully ignorant and you can share. You can be like, you don't need vaccines, drink celery juice. But that's not coming from a malicious place. I think Josh wants pain for those people. Yeah. That's bad. I would think that being helpful. But you think that being helpful. Yeah, well, you just get what I would. The pain would clear it up for the. This is what you're saying because this is, this is my only pitch where I'm like, you can vote with me or against me. I won't hold it against you. Past today. Yeah.

The world that I'm. proposing, sans the actual pain, is the world that we live in. So you can go and tell people to do all these things and, like, you know that they're not true and you're not actually helping anybody, or you think it's true. And then you see people hurt and but but that is the world we live in. It just takes longer. And it depends on if you see the pain or not. You don't. Yeah. Guess that's right. You you become president and you fear for your life every day. because every shot at you wants like I think that like, in my opinion,

most people really aren't getting away with anything in the long run of things. This is a very comic view of the universe. It really is actually really like really like Buddhist principle. I just feel like since we're already not getting away with anything, it might as well be a medium to be your own version of correction. Because if I'm if I'm the guy holding the fork. and I put it in there, I'm like, oh, it's immediate, it's not worth it. I'm not going to do it again. How would they feel the pain? Who administers it like, this is what I think. I want to know more about the pain I think it would be. It brings the pain. Josh.

I think it would be as different as the person. So, for instance, I think that like if I'm sitting down with Christiane and I'm like, look, let me tell you what the third trimester is like, I might slow down if my nose just starts bleed a little bit. too heavy. Like, this is so dystopian. It really is. Josh is we we send Josh away. We were like, Josh, you two nice. And Josh went away and he read every, like, Orwellian novel he could. And Josh was like, oh, I will show you because this is Dan.

Okay, another question. If somebody is like determined in their willful stupidity. and they're constantly feeling pain, does it get to a point where they die? No, I don't think so, because you still have the same life expectancy. You still have the same life expectancy. I think a physical representation of the thing now is there are those people. that are like very like crunchy hippie and everything, and they drink silver. because they're like, no, Jake Silver.

Yeah, I have no. And so they're like, no, if I drink the silver, I won't need like. a list of things that are actually like, not that invasive. And just like medically because of its antibacterial qualities. I know that stuff is great, but I don't know, drinking. It's like it's like they will turn a little bit blue. You'll see it on them. Yes. And then they look like what they're going through. Yeah. They'll look like what they're going through. and they'll still be sick because you just drank a silver you didn't like. Go to the hospital. Yeah. And I think that that version is like kind of.

almost the thing that I'm proposing now where it's like you're not walking around. But I. do think if you're if you're sitting there and, you know, you, you, you know, but because of, like, whatever biases you have, like, I watched this documentary. with someone who had left the neo-Nazi movement, and he said that the entire time I was in there, the entire 20 to 20 years. that I was a neo-Nazi, I spent all of my days and most of my life. rationalizing because I was constantly being bombarded with things that showed me.

the world was not the way that I had both been told it. was, and was telling myself that it was. And so I'm like, yeah, you're already in. pain to a certain degree, because now this, this like black neighbor. that you have has been incredibly nice to you and mow your lawn and. Okay. And now you feel like they should have gotten that pain earlier 100% physically. Yeah. Yeah. Because now he's over here, he's this neo-Nazi was whoop it ass for 20 years. And I was like, But I've changed. Just like, that's great. I'm glad. But there maybe if your head hurt a little bit while you were,

like, rationalizing what age does the pain things start. I think it starts with your brain stops developing that way. Everybody gets, you know, okay. They're like, all fair. So you were like, if you're a kid, like, you wouldn't even understand the pain. if they gave you the pain. Like, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah. You wouldn't you wouldn't even know it was happening. Okay. You know, I think I'm ready to vote. Okay, Trevor, you go first. I'm going to vote no.

Only because I don't think. we have a clear idea of. who is or isn't being stupid in society and in life. And I know it's a bit of a cop out, but it's I think it's true. And I think. while like Alex Jones is like an almost easy example, I think there's some examples where people will feel pain. for the wrong reason at the wrong time, and then it might shut down. something that's a smart idea. Like maybe there's someone who's like, hey, the earth is round,

we need to sail the other way long before everyone else is saying it. And then they're like, then they don't do it. Well, someone doesn't invent electricity, or I just, I just I'm worried about that. Yeah. Stop. But I will say this. I love the as Christian said, I love the comic side of what you're saying. I do think it would be great. if people experienced the ramifications of their actions a lot sooner. However, I just worry that even in our finite. understanding of what is and isn't stupid at the time that we're processing it,

we might put a lot of good people in pain. who might not do something that was necessary for us. because they would like, I don't want the pain. And I think pain pain also stops people from exploring something. that might seem stupid. at the time that they're going to say it, but then isn't later. And, you know, I do love the idea, but, I'm going to vote no, unfortunately, before you vote, okay, I will say I'm not talking about imagination, and I'm not talking. I'm talking about I'm not even having my hand on the lever.

Okay, you know what's a lie? And you keep telling it to people, and that gives you a headache, I think is I, I and so I get everything that you're saying, okay? I don't expect you to change your. So now. But now let me ask you one question. What if somebody is lying to, like, let's say there's. this there's a there's a government out there that's a dictatorship. And then the police come knocking on the door trying to take your family. And then you lie to the, the, the military police. Do you feel pain. Oh no a lie I'm talking about a lie that is like willful ignorance.

I'm still not talking about having an imagination or a lie to like, protecting. No lie. Yeah, yeah. I mean, okay, like if somebody says it's only something where you believe. the opposite completely and you are doing it, it's really only this. Yeah, it's really only like the slightly, slightly. to very malicious spread of, misinformation or I'll change my vote. Yes. Wow. Oh, I did not see that call. Change my vote to Josh. Yeah. Wow.

No no no no, you can you clear? I'll change my vote to. Yes. Okay, so as somebody who recently gave birth, and has given birth without drugs. and has a very high pain threshold. Like I 3D printed a human through my vagina. Josh. So like. and I was nine months pregnant. I think you underestimate how it's made. And then there's people that live with chronic pain. How pain can kind of just become Ambien. I think you're describing very damaged people right now.

I think Alex Jones sure needs to do a lot of like spiritual work. not to like psychology as in, but like this is a very damaged person. And there are certain types of people that I have a high pain threshold. I used to chronic pain. Pain is always Ambien. And there are some people who thrive off pain. I forgot about the boners. There are people die of pain. Yeah, yeah. No. You're right. I know this woman called Laura Cecconi. She made this great documentary called lucky. about this girl who I think lives in the Bronx.

And she's, like, really charismatic and beautiful, and she's covered in tattoos, right? Yeah. And, she says in the documentary, see, I show it on documentary, but that's actually a really good documentary. She says they were like, why do you have all these tattoos on your face? And she'd had a really tough life. And she says, I can't really locate the pain I feel emotionally. So every time I get a tattoo, I can feel the pain physically. Damn. I'm paraphrasing it. now, and I it made me look at like, you know, psychic pain a bit different.

I mean, yeah, I look at people that have lots of. piercings and people that have lots of tattoos, like they're actually trying to physically experience. something that they only experience emotionally and can't often locate. And I think that we're talking about very emotionally damaged people. If you're, like, willfully putting bad information in the world. for your own gain. And I think you underestimate how many people, for whatever reasons, maybe they've had really tough lives, or maybe they're sociopathic. Who would actually enjoy that sensation of pain?

It's making them feel something. She's. Right. That is I'm, I see I feel like Trump is in that category because of his own damage. He likes to feel like the thing that we're like everyone thinks you're awful. Your nasty person. He gets a rush from that pain and that criticism. And I do feel you would create a world where people would seek out that pain. You basically saying we'd create like super villains, the Joker.

Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Yeah. Like, you know, damn look like we were already. in a world where people like self-harm for various reasons. And I'm just like, that's part of the human experience where pain can be very validating. And offers release my worry is that some of these bad actors feeling the pain. I'll just going to do more bad things and that's why it's a no, not because I don't think it's a good idea. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. No, no those, those people will probably have to be tackled.

Damn. Josh, you know, I, I do like the underlying. Yeah. You were close and there's something. No. Keep working on it. Yeah, I can't work environment. Yeah. I mean you I've actually never done. And if I ruled the world, that was a revised idea of an old idea. That's true, you know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's true. Yeah. Okay. So are you going to come back to workshop it? I might and it might be through if I ruled the worlds later. This got caught up. because now I forgot about a whole demographic of people and everything. Super villains. Yeah. Don't forget the super villains.

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Thanks to Amazon, health care just got less. painful. All right, so Christiana has her two votes. Josh only got one. Let's see if I can get anything out of this one. So if I ruled the world, I would make it so that every thoughts.

people are having during sex. Or intimacy. Comes out of them verbally whether they like it or not. This is insane man. This man trying to get in. What the. That. Let me finish I'll let me finish. Yep yep yep. You will be making out with somebody. And like in my world it's like comes out of everyone. Don't worry. Don't worry about like oh but I'm kissing them. No it will, it might come up in my player of your ears. This is the world I'm creating. Yeah. Think of it as like having a little speaker on you.

Not visible. But you're making out with somebody and whatever you're thinking. comes out of you. Me? Oh, I need to do the washing. Oh, I need it's fine. Whatever it is comes out of you. And if you're having sex with somebody what have you thinking. Whatever they're thinking it comes out of them. and the other person is able to hear it while this is happening. Okay. This is the whole idea. This is the complete idea Josh okay. All right. Now I will tell you why. Yeah okay. Okay. Tell you why. So the reason I think this would be a great idea is for a few reasons. One,

because we live in a world where. nobody teaches us about sex. Nobody. We go to school, we learn about different types of clouds. I know about cumulonimbus. I know about stratus. I know about different types of rivers. Perennial. Non perennial. Nobody taught me about sex at school like nothing. It taught you about like the genitalia.

That's not sex. They did not teach you about sex. There's a reason you can't like demonstrate sex to children. But you talk about sex. and this is, this is the thing that the best way to learn about sex is sometimes experiential. No no no no no. I think there's ways you can learn about a thing without doing it. So here's the thing I think of. sometimes we'll make these arguments, but then like go watch a cartoon. They showed things like this. Cartoons. Were they shooting each other's heads off. and getting blown up and all kinds of things? You know, many times bugs Bunny blew off Elmer Fudd head with a gun,

but nobody said, you can't show kids somebody shooting someone's head off. I mean, someone probably should have said that. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, like, we we will say, I'm. I'm saying sex is a good, a natural part of life. Okay? And I'm saying in our lives, no one teaches it to us now. I'm not saying. I'm not even saying when you brought children. And by the way, let the record show I said nothing about children. and then all of a sudden threw children at me. As if now I would say, I just said, we don't get taught about sex. Yeah. I'm saying even when we're 21, there's no sex school.

You know what I mean? When we're 18, there's no sex school. So this is the first part no one teaches us about sex. Secondly, we have done a terrible job. at working in and around consent. Just let's be honest. We've made we've done a terrible job. The MeToo movement came and went. And what do we actually learn from it. Right. Well almost nothing. Half of the people are like, well, this is why I'm not going to have a woman in my office. That doesn't seem like the lesson we're trying to learn. Do you get? I'm saying, but also, we didn't dive into the nuances. We didn't talk about how consent is fluid and is always moving.

and is sometimes verbal, sometimes nonverbal, sometimes culturally defined. It's complicated. It's difficult. That's what I'm saying in my world. When you are being intimate with somebody. Every thought you are having. would be loudly and clearly projected to the other person. Okay. But Trevor. Yeah. Why not just do the school of sex first before you have to do the thought. Yes. Okay. Another reason for this is because I think.

a lot of couples out there. have sex lives that diminish over time. because they're not sharing what's in their mind. And they can't like tap into it. So you hear many stories of women who are not being pleasured. And they don't say it to their partner. And then like 15 years down the line they're like. yeah. It wasn't working for me. The sex wasn't great. And you like this poor guy. He didn't know. He never got a chance in the school of sex.

Help. No, no. But the school remember people people fail in school all the time. That's okay. Fail is okay. No, no, no, no. People fail at sex. Yeah, but you see, in my world, it's not about the failure, not the success. It's just about the raw honesty that the thing would provide. Okay, okay. Yeah, think of it the other way as well. Like, there are men out there who might have, like, a fantasy or something. they want to think about and they want to share. They can't share. And then it blocks them off from their partner both ways. It can go, by the way, I don't think it's gendered. I'm just saying these are examples. And so I'm saying you'd be having the sex. And to your point you might go, oh, I have to do the washing.

I have to do the dishes, I have to. And then your husband could say to you, baby, you don't worry about the dishes. right now. I got you, babe. You don't need to worry about those dishes, okay, okay, I have, I've got a couple of you can ask as many questions. So there's this guy I follow on Tik Tok. I forget his name. I think we should have him on the show. Yeah, he's a PhD. He's a professor who studies like boyhood and manhood. And one of the studies I did was about what men think about during sex. Okay. And they got these men to speak to.

You know, I don't know how they conduct this experiment, but probably all lies. But, you know, and it was very revealing. Men said they think about other men. in the sense they think about what they're going to tell their friend about men. Who are these guys anyway? He goes through all, don't, man. You see, this is what I don't like it. Wait, wait, wait, these are lies. Oh, wait. Sorry. Carry on. These are lies. Now he's become anti-intellectual because this isn't like. Well, these are lies, you know? Okay, this is going to say, like, these are the. Okay, okay. Josh. Josh, what what what what he was just saying it was just the men.

think about their insecurities. Men think, what does she think about my body? It was, like, very vulnerable. Oh, yeah, but that's everyone, right? That part is everyone. And my thing is, I don't know if men are ready for what women think. about them during sex, because some of it is not very nice, and you come away with a lasting scar about what she thinks. about your physical appearance. This is great. And I think there's a reason, thoughts are private. I was gonna say privates are private, but I'm not surprised.

No, but these privates are thoughts that are going to not be present. Like, here's a counterargument to what you're saying, and I'm with you. completely. Remember, in my world you will not know the before. Remember, these are the rules of if I rule the world, the people are not going to. Now, it's not a new thing for them. I'm just saying for all of us, it switches tomorrow. We will not remember what it was okay. So everyone will be experiencing this. At some point you will become immunized to it. No I think people just won't have sex. You think people. You think you can stop people from having sex? I think I think I could stop I would not want people,

you know, that in refugee camps people have sex. I'm with you. I'm just letting you know now. Yeah, but those dudes are pretty quiet. Just like the sex. But, man, people have sex everywhere. I'm with you. People in jail have sex because there are no thoughts. Yeah, and you don't? Because this. Because this is what I'm. This is. I want you to win here. I want to see you succeed. So these are my questions, all right. Do you know how good the sex can be if people reveal the intimate secrets? No, it. No, because they can't. That's what I'm saying. In my world, they are just saying it.

That's when I say you take. You're forcing their thoughts. I'm not forcing it. It just happens to you. But no, because you. It's like a thought that you can't block. Because in your mind. Have you smelled farts? Yes, but that's not okay. Now, actually, this is a great point. If you hang out with your friends, your closest friends, people who you really love and vibe. your kids, even you tell me that farts haven't brought you closer together. People love to intellectualize so many things in this world. But let's be honest, Josh, you're hanging out with somebody close to you. You're a couple. Any couple who's listening to this right now, you think to yourself,

you're a couple, you're in bed together. One of you farts tell me that that moment doesn't bring joy into your life. Because when you have kids, you just tell one of the. Yeah, but it's funny, but it's funny. Yeah, it's a joy. It brings you something. Yeah. It's fart with your friends. When do you not fart? When you do not fart with people that you are not comfortable with? Environments that you are not comfortable in, right? In environments. So what I'm saying is. the fart is a great measure for where you are most comfortable. Let it loose, let it rip. But you're doing it.

You're consenting to the thought coming out. Yes, it's. You're comfortable. Yes, but I'm not consenting to the thought coming out. And if I consent to the thought coming out, I just say it. That's why we have mouth. No no no no no no no. But what I'm saying is here I'm helping people. Just letting it come out. Okay, so I have three questions because I once again, I think this is a very interesting idea when when your thought comes out. Yes. Can you talk while your thought comes out? You can't talk at the same time. You can't talk at the same time as your thought comes out, you can't think a different thing to what you're saying, okay?

Because you can think so fast, because you can think, faster than you can speak. You could speak and then think. And then the thought comes out right after that's true. That's true. Right. So you could say, you could say, oh, this is the best sex I ever had. And then, you know, it's not. Yeah. Yes. And that's wonderful. Yeah. You can you can do that. Yes. Then the other two things which I feel like are the sticking points for, can I say you why can I let me. Okay. So I'll tell you why. Because I think in my world I think there could be something beautiful. on the other side of the friction that we would experience initially.

Because, yes, I understand where you're coming from. Please don't get me wrong. Even me, myself. When I came up with this idea, I was like, Trevor, this is crazy to me, myself. Yeah, right. Because I challenged myself as well. And then I thought, but think about how beautiful this moment could be. You're having sex with somebody, right? They go, this is the best sex I ever had. Then their brain voice comes out and goes, no, it's not. I've had much better sex. Now I want to end. No, no no no. Now they you can. You wouldn't even think about what is is marriage. the first time you guys are having sex? No. But what if somebody is thinking about an ex or thinking about it?

This is fine. I think that this opens us up. To the world of intimacy that we often act like isn't happening already. And I think so. For instance somebody says this is the best sex. No it's not. Then you could say oh why did you lie to me now. your brain might even say people are going to get shot. Trevor Christiana, why are you going to shoot their wives and wives? Look at it. Stop. Okay, Christiana, you understand that people are not having sex. for the first time when they're married. You jumping straight to that? People who have had sex along the way. Relationship? Sure.

But like you've had sex along the way. You the thought you see here a thought and someone just like, oh, her titties are lopsided. Oh. Shot them. Yeah. Oh my God, I think you just I and I love I love what I love. Why the intention behind it. Like I'm not hitting on that for real. You want like this radical transparency and honesty and freedom and intimacy. Liberation. Yeah. I just think it could be. And it could be fun to five men in the emotional. And what I'm saying that could happen only because now you we're in it.

Remember, we've become a little more robust as people. This is like how we arrived. I don't think this is just how we are. Don't go anywhere because we got more. What now? After this? And this. These are the sticking points I have. Right? Okay. Is that one? We know this from comedy. All three of us know this from comedy. that sometimes you have a comedic thought, which is a joke. Yes.

And people will see you perform. the joke in a place that's also a setting for jokes. Yes. And they'll still be like, they meant it. Okay, so now a thought that is like a sexy thought. or I'm just thinking or something. Whatever is going to now seem like. Because remember, you can't hear the thoughts when we're not being intimate. Yes. So now the only time I hear. your thoughts, it's going to be a thing that might be slightly negative. or be a thing that, like, takes the fantasy too far. Oh, because you got to remember for people who are in the like S&M. or anything like that,

there might be a moment where it's like you're consensually. choking someone who wants to be choked, but in your. in your head you're like, I'm a kill you. I know you are never going to kill them. Yeah, they're not here. Okay? So now they're like. And then they would say in their brain, please don't kill me. Yeah. They stop thinking they would be like, you're going to kill me. And then your brain would go like, no, I'm not going to kill you. No, no, we're playing, we're playing.

We just play now. Now you've distracted from the thing that they were enjoying, which was the, like, little rough, chunky thing, because now you had to think around the thing. You could have gone, I can, I can take this, I can take as well. Okay. Because like, because I'm married, I'm just in like married and couple and yes. What does this mean for casual sex? Because most sex really that people are having like, yeah, it was someone you swiped on Tinder or Grinder. Yeah. It's a stranger. It could be someone you met at Club Loving. It's. What does it mean for casual sex?

What do you mean? What does it mean for. Because then. it could be like an encounter, and I think it would be great. And the guy's like, oh my God, think about how my I, I watch my wife. I'm sorry. You're like, what a shit. But that's fantastic. You see, you just telling me a good thing. No, that's double steps. Because now now you I this you looking. But remember I said when you when you are being intimate. So I'm saying even like when you start kissing and remember. Oh I didn't just say sex I said the intimacy. As soon as you begin. Oh, you did say that then. Yeah. So like from the moment, you know, that moment where we like,

we like look at somebody and then there's the silence, then we think something. Then the voice would come out and be like, I wonder if now's a good time. to kiss them. Isn't there something, isn't there like an app that we could. I think there's just something missing in between. I think like I like the school of sex thing. that you were talking about that we don't have. Yes. I think there's lots of steps we can get to before this kind of Black. Mirror world where people know sex because you get before you kiss. This is the only other thing that I have. But I'm not saying it's a terrible. It just feels like the most extreme version of this.

I mean, we're trying to. So it does feel like radical honesty, but I think that there's there's a. world where, because you and I, Trevor, are both men. and we understand what men are like. Yes. I had to sit down a couple of my friends who did not believe me when I told them. there were there were plenty of men in this world who will act flamboyant. They'll even act gay to, like, get in with you. And now that your gay best friend.

Are y'all touchy? Y'all play or whatever? Now you're like, oh, I never thought about you this way. And I've never been with a one. All lies, all lies again. Literally that much of a long game. And I worry that you will create j'étais of men. who know their thoughts are going to be heard. So they're like, I got it. Because you got to remember. You got to remember. You need to be able to control their thoughts to that point 100%. Because because this is the thing, they know when it's going to be turned on.

So they know how they have to think for it, then they know when it's going off. So then they can be like, oh, okay, right. Right after she leaves, I'm saying already in this analogy, yes, a lot of guys during sex are trying not to end sex. They're fighting to keep the sex going. Yes. So a lot of what you'll hear are baseball statistics. A lot of it'll. a lot of it'll just be like. the great bam Boney, like.

And so now she's like, why is he why is he just doing numbers in his head? But I think you are spending you are doing what? What? I did when I first heard about Airbnb and Uber. The first time I heard about Airbnb I was like this is never going to work. I remember hearing about it as a concept. They said this is app people stay at stranger's houses. I was like this will never work. Nobody is going to allow a stranger to come into their home and live there.

sometimes. Stay with them. That'll never happen. Nobody trust each other. Uber. I remember being like, this is the craziest idea I've ever heard. You're telling me. people are going to drive their own car to pick you up, and they don't know you, and they're not a professional driver, they just a random driver. I was like, I don't know. And yet, look, we get into Ubers with strangers all the time. We go live at Airbnbs all the time. And yes, there's the occasional friction. I'm not saying it's perfect, but for the most part it works.

And I, I honestly both of you as brilliant thinkers and as my friends, I hear what you're saying, but I think you're focusing on the friction. side of it more than you are on what comes from the other side of it. So to your point, I think there would be something beautiful. in the person who's having sex with the man. going baseball stats. And then he goes, yes, I'm trying to prolong my ejaculation.

I'm trying to make sure that I don't ejaculate. Oh just did it because I mentioned it. And now where are we. See you interrupted masturbate. No, but you see. But now I think it opens up. There's an intimacy, because now she can go. Oh, why are you trying that hard not to, Jack. Later. Oh, I think there's, like, something that can open up in a way that. that right now we don't have in sex is what I'm saying. Just go to a sex therapist. Christiana. How can people just afford a sex therapist? Why didn't you rule the world?

You can give sex therapy away for free. Yes, but now that's like everyone has to go through the thing and do the thing. I'm just. instantly we're in. It's. I really need you to sell me. On what the upside of this is. I'm. I'm really. I'm not focusing on the only. The only. So the only. Okay, I'll tell you that there are three upside things to help you on the upside. So there are three upsides that I think upside number one, I think we lose a lot of intimacy in sex because we hide. numerous things. We hide the fact that we are uncomfortable.

We hide the fact that we don't know how we feel for the other person. We hide so many things that I think rob us of the intimacy. that we could be experiencing. So from fresh hookups all the way to married couples, you know how many guys out there. have no idea how quote unquote, terrible the sex was with the girl they were with? And she's like, I don't know if I can. I really like the date that we went on, but that was just horrible. And this person doesn't know they're a nice person. And then maybe they become less of a nice person. because they're like, why don't I get second hookups.

or we go on dates and they like me, but then this happens, right? And then also for a woman, it's like, imagine what it's like to be. you in a world where you're not getting great sex. because you want to hurt the person's feelings, but now it's not you. The thing is just happening. Terrible. So the first thing I'm saying is, I think it would open up. a lot of intimacy channel. These are the upsides. I understand the downsides. I think another thing it would do is it would help people voice. the moments where they're uncomfortable, where I think sometimes. the other person doesn't even know. And I think this can happen both ways. Sometimes people are uncomfortable, and it would be great if your brain could just say, I'm uncomfortable,

and then you go like, oh damn, you're uncomfortable. Okay? But don't you worry that by creating this shortcut, then people just aren't going to do what I think. is the proper way of spending time and getting to know someone, and whether it's your casual hookup. or whether it's like people have been together for a long time, if you know their thoughts are just going to be downloaded. Yeah, you're like, I'm not going to ask my wife about her day. I just know during sex I'm going to hear about all that. bitch in the office was talking about love. But that depends on what people think about during sex. I think we should give people some credits.

Some people are able to really focus on the sex. We can't focus. We're on our phones all the time. No, I think there's a lot of times. when people are having sex going, this feels amazing. I love this person so much. I'm so lucky. What an amazing experience. I don't want it. Yeah, whatever it might be. But but I think there are I think there are those upsides okay. And so I, I'm willing to take a little bit of the friction. for what I think could be a beautiful, open, honest. and interesting conversation that we could be having during sex.

This is this is the thing I was going to say that might help you. Who knows? People probably, I'm assuming, don't quite. have some of the sensitivities that they have in our current world. That's what I mean, because, you know, it's always been like it's always been it's always been always been like this. So they just know that's what happens during sex. Yeah, yeah yeah. Okay. Gotcha, gotcha. It's the same way. you're asking me like, do, do I want to live in a world where this is true? That's what I mean, because think of it this way. Thank you. Josh, actually, because think of how crazy our current sex is.

Imagine if we lived in an alternate universe. And I had pitched this to you and I said, if I ruled the world, I would make it so that whenever people orgasm, their face goes like this. And then they go like, hey, I don't think either of you would say yes to that. Sure you would go. Why would you might even say, why would anyone have sex? Yeah, yeah. If you're going to end it with me, why would anyone have sex? So I thank you, Josh, because that is exactly what I'm saying is yes to us.

It is weird now because we think tomorrow it will be that. But for the people of this world that I rule, it will be like that. There was no other way. And so I think their journey will come with different frictions. But I think a more holistic, honest and intimate experience. Okay. I think I might be out of questions but I guess my, my other thing. is that not to lean heavily on the friction forever, but I guess there are things of like even if we're having a coffee together.

And you just keep checking your phone. You're giving me the impression you want to be somewhere else. and you want to do something else. Yes. So then when I'm like hey are you late. Do you need to go. Whatever. And you're like no, no, no I'm fine. But then you do keep doing this. Yes. That for me I think you'll have a hard time. While sex will become more honest and more like understanding. of what the experience was for both people. I wonder if you would not actually slightly. increase the amount of bad sex because of just how the brain works?

Even in your alternate universe where people know this is going to happen? Yeah, there's still a level of like, sex. Is already this the most intimate thing you can do with a person? Yeah. So if they are clearly thinking about someone else. or don't want to be there while consenting in a way, yeah. Yeah. Like don't I. would, you know, I think in this world we haven't considered sex workers. And if you're a sex. worker and it's it's your occupation,

sometimes you're at your job and you're not enjoying your job. Yeah, I'm thinking about sex workers. Yeah, because I'm going to a restaurant and then they're taking your order, but they're also like dumb ass forehead like that. Like that. Would that would be like, oh, I don't even know if I want to. Yeah. I feel like for people that do sex work in this unit. because they're going to be sex work, prostitution, it's the oldest job in the world. Yeah. There's no monkey bars. Okay. Where it doesn't, you don't have it. I feel like if you're a sex worker and you know that every client.

is going to have insight into what you're thinking, it makes the job harder, and their work is hard enough as it is. Okay. Yeah I'm ready for my vote okay. So I'm actually going to vote yes I'm I'm voting yes. Because I do think there are a lot of people. who don't deserve to be having sex. And this will ruin them. Oh man. This will. We just got done. Josh. No, we really got Josh today.

This will take them down right? Like I said before about us being men and us like knowing. what other men are like. Yes. And I'm like, if, if, if there was a thing. that was not me as your friend to like one of my female friends. Right. Who was telling on him right now if there was something. he could do that could tell on himself, maybe you'd finally see it. Yeah. And that's a good point. And I think that only in a world like this will that happen. Yeah. Yeah. And so so I would say, yeah, I do consider the sex work part.

of what you're talking about because then sex workers. would have to become Jedi experts at like, but nobody can in my world, they can't do the job. But what's in your mind? It's not really in your mind. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, then, it's worth the take it out of terrible people, I so I vote yes. Thank you so much. Yeah. No surprises. I'm going to vote no. But I actually do appreciate the problem you're trying to solve.

Okay? And I think. if the steps before getting to this, like, brain thing. are good steps, and I just worry like a Elon Musk type could hack it, you know, it's just not there's no hacking. It's in my world, it's perfect. Unhackable. The idea is not even perfect. How did you. Well, but I mean, the execution is, you know, what I think could have been Christiana over there. Yeah. Is if your world where you do this thing is like the, the,

total recall thing. So you put the thing on and then you can hear the thoughts, but it's like a thing that you have to switch on now. Okay, Trevor. Because you could sway me to it. Yes. If, if is there an opt in opt out option. Oh. Oh that's interesting. I'm in for that. So if there's opt in. Oh yeah. There's I'm definitely in. Okay. How about yes we know that I got to vote no. Oh what. How do I just lose you. Because every every dude I was trying to destroy without opt out.

Yeah, but but now he convince his girl. Nope. Out. But now, wouldn't that be okay? I hear what you're saying there, but, I mean, that would be suspicious. Imagine you gonna have sex with someone, and there's, like. So we, We both. We both. You want to do some honest sex, and they're like, nah, I don't do that. Yeah. What do you think condoms are, bro? Like, that's what. people do after, a are you on birth control or whatever? Right. Okay. Like that, like that. Okay. All right. So I would get a yes from you, but then I would flip to a no from. Yeah.

I'm sorry. Whose vote do you value more? The opt in is so much fun. Yeah. Opt in, opt out. I think opt in is so much fun. Let me do something about opt in. Opt out for couples. That can be the thing that makes it really risky. So, like, are we going to wear the headset tonight? Yeah, I actually like this a lot. Just like the idea of like, yo, you want to be in my head tonight? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something sexy. Opt in, opt out. Absolutely. But if it's like a thing that a feature or humans have in the science fiction. No, I look I like yours because it just brought more mischief into my world.

But I actually like it being everyone and everything, because I think sometimes people are tired and they don't want to have sex, and then they have sex, and then there's too many things. So I still like it. No opt in, no opt out, no manipulation, no one convincing you to opt in or telling you why you should opt out. Someone's going to make a church of up altars and be like, it's sinful to opt in. There'll be a whole thing. Okay, I'm sorry. Then it's a no. Okay. Yeah, it is a yes for me. Well, I'll take my one vote. Josh got one vote for his. If I rule the world, I got one vote for my. If I rule the world. And Christiana, once again, you are the champion of.

If I ruled the world. Thank you to everyone who submitted their, suggestions to us. By the way, for all of you who got the yeses, I envy you. And to all of you who got the nose, I feel your pain. I feel it like Josh. Like Josh sent it to me in my bones because it's fun. Thanks. So. Yeah. Thanks. What now with Trevor Noah is produced.

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