Yannis Pappas | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #394

all right i want to let you know that i. got some tour dates coming up savannah. georgia. june 2nd. augusta georgia june 3rd. montgomery alabama june 4. and columbus georgia june 5. as well i'll be in florida. hollywood fort myers daytona beach and. lakeland. june 23rd through june 26th. today's guest is here for the first time. he's a comedian and he's an entertaining.

man. and he is out of new york. and um you're going to learn about him. as i do he and i have actually never met. but he has a new special on youtube. called mom love. and his own podcast called long days. i'm grateful to get to spend some time. with him. uh ladies and gentlemen mr yanus papas. [Music].

i'll sit and tell you my story. [Music]. and i will find a song. [Applause]. yeah you know what i've been realizing. is uh.

what's dicey to me is if they get those. little. sandwiches you know the ones um the. little. man uh cut sandwiches. yeah. you know what i'm saying somebody wrote. cut up. no no but more like just like the square. ones and then somebody cuts it up like. that you know what i'm talking about. like the triangle piece conceptually i. know i'm trying to picture it though so. yeah it just says meat cheese man and. mustard or mayonnaise in it yeah it just. like is a little triangle yeah you know.

somebody gets a little round tray of a. bunch of those little triangles yes now. i got you yeah. but then the weird part is when they. start to sit there for a while and it. gets hard on the side and people still. eat them yeah. that's why you got to get to that plate. early but it's some guys prefer air. damage yes some guys prefer to go into. the tray. late in the game bro. yeah that's not the way you got to get. there before the air damage brightens it. up yeah yeah that is air damage man yeah. there's a triangular yeah you know what.

i'm talking about those triangular ones. are you talking about they come in like. a plastic plate you pull it off yes. i know exactly what you're talking about. yeah they got the top on it yeah um. convenient way to throw a party. yeah yeah you don't got to make. sandwiches if you if you know it's just. yeah better that way yeah i think having. it like that is probably makes things uh. yeah somebody cracks open and thinking. of those as a kid i hate this i was like. oh those things look like they're for. adults or something. but as an adult i'm like i'll have a one.

or two of those yeah. they're nice yeah it's a perfect you. can't go back you can't go wrong with. meat and cheese at an adult party meat. and cheese is always a hit salami and. cheese yeah that's always that's gonna. go first yeah people aren't gonna touch. the salad people aren't gonna touch if. you got the carrots and the ranch out. those will be there tomorrow the whole. plate will be there but yeah the salami. and cheese is gone yeah yeah it's the. beyonce of that spread. man. um. is janice's mic in his face guys do you.

guys want it somewhere different i. always have mic problems i apologize do. you i do it's something like even on my. own podcast or like. uh like i just can't i have no i i might. be challenged in that way like a. learning disability with like where the. mic is supposed to be yeah. yeah i think it does get to be like uh. um i'm either too low too high yeah. but you've been uh you've been. podcasting for a long time um so a lot. of my listeners might not even know you. and you and i have just met we just met.

yeah yeah and that's crazy yeah well i. know you you know yeah. yeah like i know you've comedy but yeah. it's the first time we've been in the. flesh yeah yeah it feels good it's. interesting yeah you got a cozy warm. kind of vibe yeah energy oh thanks yeah. i feel i feel right like in the womb i'm. i feel in a womb you're good yeah i like. it man yeah yeah well thanks for coming. man so i want to just like kind of just. so my listeners know like how you even. got started like in the comedy just take. me through a little bit of that man.

because you are from. another country. i'm from another country are you from. another country i'm uh america oh. yeah i thought you were well it would. technically be right if you were from. if you weren't from here right and i. would be from another country but were. you born in another country no i was. born here oh i thought you were born in. another country i dude i look at you and. i i say i can see why he would assume. that because you're [ __ ] american. yeah you're american-american like if.

there can be. more of a way to be american yeah it's. on you so i know just hearing my name. you're like i guess he's from he must. have been born in romania or something i. got an immigrant name. yeah i would i mean i don't know if i. would i remember um. i said to one of my friends yesterday i. was like oh uh giannis pappas is coming. on and they're like oh i thought. um. oh who's the they're like oh that. reminds me of that guy who has the other. name that's kind of like a double oh um.

who's the russian guy the older russian. jewish comedian. uh zielinski he's fighting a war right. now no i'm not that guy. oh he's ukrainian same [ __ ] he's doing. cameos somebody said that's crazy yeah i. mean for 600 to raise money for ukraine. that's crazy that is crazy and he's got. time. where do they have that guy that he's. got a camera set up and i tell you one i. don't know who his barber is but he's on. call the dude is always crisp in the. middle of a war i mean he's got like a.

fade every three days oh yeah he's like. the dj khaled i feel like of like. bombings yeah i think he just travels. with his barber. he's got a barber in the bomb shelter he. really values whoever cuts his hair and. dude will somebody win this [ __ ] war. already like jesus. what. it feels like they just nobody will win. it or they don't care or they taking. days off it feels like they're like hey. let's do it on tuesday i'll meet you. guys on friday we'll do another round on. friday it is hard to understand right.

because like. if there's a war going on how is he safe. to. give talks and you know do a video zoom. for the oscars and then biden goes there. he's walking around no problem i think. nancy pelosi yeah was wheeled out there. so like where's the war. yeah i don't know what's happening yeah. and i don't know i think it's like a i. think they got to go to court like maybe. johnny and amber to solve it figure it. out yeah cause i'm [ __ ] who's bad. son yeah i feel like johnny is russia in. this scenario. and amber uh no i'm sorry johnny yeah.

johnny's johnny's ukraine i'm sorry and. amber's russia. and uh no. yeah who's the best there's only two. ways to do it i don't know it's only two. the good guys are ukraine i'm trying to. depend on it depends on which side of. the political aisle you i guess you fall. on to consider who's the bad guy yeah. but i think. johnny yeah is ukraine johnny because he. got invaded by amber. so we need to figure out ways to funnel.

weapons to johnny yeah that's what we. got to do to help out johnny. yeah i saw johnny depp one night at the. comedy store it was pretty crazy that is. a crazy sighting to see johnny because i. went up and. dug stand up as friends when they. introduced me to him and then i realized. i didn't know what to say and then i. realized i didn't have anything to say. to johnny that right. that's almost the worst but like when. you're like oh there's not even there's. not even a 30th degree of separation. like. there's nothing to even say here it's. like literally shook hands and then.

i had nothing. yeah. i it would kind it's kind of similar to. meeting you because what i wanted to say. i held it maybe what you wanted to say. you held it because you felt like he's. he's over it like i would have opened. with a 21 jump street thing because. that's my closest emotional tie to. johnny okay was his hair back then with. the earring he kind of said that that my. generation pull that picture up with. johnny depp 21 jump street let's get an. image of that i think he was like the. that hairstyle with the earring was like. every white guy in america did that.

middle part with the earring and so i. would open with a 21 jump street like. with you i wrote rules but i didn't want. to say it i know you're from road rules. i remember oh that's interesting yeah. and you're as big as i thought you were. like tall you're a tall drink of water. uh you know it's really funny people say. that i'm tall and i don't i don't i've. always just been. i mean i've been this hype for probably. 21 years now and it's like. i don't think anything i never thought i. was tall but people constantly say that. yeah you're six months man bro you're. taller than i thought. so it's always mexican you comment on it.

you know i'm not gonna say that. but it's a lot of like uh latinos you. know or recent americans. who are like. i thought. recent american is a better way than to. call mexican it's a way to scoot around. it well not even mexican but just i feel. like if we're gonna be. because people remember that people used. to say illegal immigrants right yeah. because i'll meet a lot of mexican guys. and be like uh. you know where did you come or how did.

you you know and they were like uh just. don't tell anybody i'm here you know. what i'm saying they all joke about it. yeah yeah yeah you know yeah but it's. like so i think recent americans yeah it. at least gives both sides of the net. likes a little bit of like. okay. they're new and then other people like. yeah let's you know you're running cover. for them because you're not lying right. but you're also not telling them they. may not have their papers they're recent. americans interpret that the way you. wanted to.

we got a couple recent americans here. god johnny depp was just man yeah oh. yeah he'd be a hot chick now even he. yeah if he went trans he would look good. some guys you can tell if they. transition they would flawlessly. transition usually they don't have the. like the neo underthrow brow that's a. real impediment to like a smooth. transition but he got a real nice girl. guy face oh yeah god man yeah if he put. some makeup on and grew the hair a. little longer i don't even think he'd. need estrogen.

well he's a handsome kid he's handsome. guy yeah and he used to definitely be. more i mean look he's getting older you. know and i think he's partied pretty. hard he's probably going pretty hard. yeah. yeah for a guy who did the amount of. drugs he did yeah he looks good that's a. good point he looks real good that's a. good point i mean i don't know how much. la has to do with that hollywood people. with uh who are stars tend to age very. well because i guess when your job is. just staying in shape every day in. between scripts yeah you dedicate a lot. of time to it there's like a team of.

people who keep johnny tap like camera. ready well you can also get flu you got. fluffers that's a big thing yeah like a. guy that's going to do work at dunkin. donuts or whatever he ain't got that. fluffy you know what i'm saying he don't. have somebody meeting him in the parking. lot an hour early yeah to polish him up. and trim off all the loose ends and take. his up his dirty appendix out or. whatever is going on you know. but he's got those people where every. day before he you know those people like. just really shining them up you think. like if there was a competitor to come.

out that would compete against dunkin. donuts and starbucks if they use the. strategy of like you know what. we're gonna up the game of the people. who work here and make them all. beautiful with fluffers will hire. fluffers too that they'll that'll even. if the coffee's not as good it'll give. them the edge like how come nobody's. thinking outside the box like that. well so you're saying if they beautified. the um. the staff the staff yeah with fluff with. the help of fluffers if they got the. corporate money right they can create.

extra jobs we don't have to live in this. world where coffee shops have like ugly. untaken care of i don't know if that's. the way you say it unquaffed unkempt. yeah unkept unkept people maybe we need. to create jobs how about how about a. couple fluffers for these dunkin donuts. employees yeah cinderella's sisters are. you who you're talking about yeah that's. exactly what it is um well look at this. you know i was at the starbucks the. other day and a guy runs in homeless guy. right yeah. i'm not gonna say homeless but the guy.

was. the guy hadn't heard a doorbell ring in. a while i bet right recently unhomed i. would say that yeah i would say recently. the american recently. so this boy he was out there and uh he. came in he had no pants on right. and he walked past these two chicks. outside and they got a little scared you. know and i was like scat scat like i did. like that you know cause like uh we had. a lot of stray animals in our. neighborhood growing up and if they came. by my sisters i would be like that did. he respond did he eat scat or what kind.

of did he get working on it yeah yeah. yeah he kind of did and then he went. inside and stole all of the. money right out of the tip thing he did. yeah and um so the scat. you were like an accessory to the crime. then we didn't tell him to scout he. would have bothered the girls and. may not have he could have done a rape. and burgle oh yeah it's hard to know. what would have happened right that. could have been the lesser of the two. evils. well then i go in and there's a guy in. there who's like.

very who's like probably about 11. different genders right this dude was. coming in you know he had anchovies he. had all of it. and he um. he was like oh my god i don't know what. just happened right. and i was like y'all got [ __ ] robbed. that's what just happened bro and nobody. in here they had 11 of them and how is. it they have 11 starbuck employees they. all have on walkie-talkies talking to. each other right next to each other yeah. it doesn't seem like they need that yeah. you could just go like this it's like.

ordering a sandwich at wawa's you're. like why can't i just give it the order. to you why do i gotta become a computer. programmer back here yeah it's. unnecessary technology oh a lot of. unnecessary technology and so. then uh yeah but it was just crazy they. were everybody was just so like. like nobody there could have saved the. day right you know because actually they. had this one little mighty mouse [ __ ]. you know i think if she'd have seen it. go down she wouldn't she was dealing. with an egg mc you know day breakfast or. something but the moment when that thing.

when the guy hit but if she'd have. freaking turned around she was a little. less hungry she might have. took her focus off the order and helped. well she you could just tell she had a. little bit more nuts in her than any of. the uh fellas that were working in right. right they don't care right they don't. care but it was the tips though. uh oh they care about that. but i woulda yeah yeah that's my money. like you know nobody stopped them no the. guy was just like one guy this is the. best one dude. who probably was at least you know.

four or five different genders right. this dude coming in bruh you know this. was a non-binary establishment. this dude had his hands up like this. like what the [ __ ]. and the guy didn't have a gun but he did. have his pants off well he had i'll say. this bro he was short and he it looked. like he had a little bit of dick hanging. out the bottom of his shirt and that is. a that's a weapon too.

it could be a weapon especially if you. don't know what gender you are yeah bro. you don't know how that thing is going. to end up in you would you be more. scared if a guy with a gun or a guy a. naked guy is kind of. you don't know what to do with a naked. guy easy oh if i had to i'd get the. bullets out of them you know what i'm. saying. i'd handle them down to keep the. pressure out of them if i had to. you ever seen those videos where like. the like those prank shows in the hood. where the guys talk [ __ ] to like tough. dudes in the hood and the guy's like. what and he's about to and then they.

just strip naked and the guy runs for. some reason. because i guess it's so jarring you. don't know what to do when somebody's. missing. a piece of their uh outfit it's just. kind of a weird thing i guess shirt off. is more socially. well shirt off we're gonna fight yeah. sheriff's we're gonna fight pants off or. we we're gonna we may i might [ __ ] you. so that gets a little. that's probably what makes you nervous. it's a novelty of it no frame of. reference like when the indians first. saw the boats they couldn't tell what. they were really yeah they said they. didn't they had no frame of reference.

for the conquistador boat so they just. couldn't almost see them they couldn't. see them they couldn't understand it it. was like an object they'd never seen so. if you get into a situation when a guy. with no pants and he's threatening you. you might not even understand it and. just free maybe put maybe that's why she. put her hands up yeah maybe she didn't. know she was like is this what you're. supposed to do yeah when a guy has no. pants on a little bit of dick hanging. out under the shirt he had a short shirt. on too. he was a black guy too which is an. unusual shirt yeah because usually they. got long shirts on if you go to a black. barbecue they down to their knees oh.

yeah yeah black guys like long shirts. yeah black guys look good and stuff they. look good in everything anything yeah. you know uh black guys look good and. a black guy could walk around literally. just with with shopping tags hang that's. why i think a lot of black guys keep the. tags on things because i think. other people will literally come up and. shop off of them. you know. yeah. damn let me scan this up right now bro. that's not a bad idea bruh it's not a. bad if you got a percentage of the sale. yeah it's like damn let me scan two of.

those off of my boy and then he makes a. little bit of bread yeah i i had a black. friend who used to wear his hat like. that with the stickers and tags and we. were having a conversation once and he. was like you know his cops got to stop. profiling me i'm like well maybe if it. looks if you make it look a little less. like you just stole the hat out of the. store yeah you're wearing it like you. just ran out past the sensors. i mean maybe that'll help. yeah they had a blanket i saw with a. chain made out of sensors. that's not gonna that's not helpful.

that's actually a good move if you want. to steal a store if you come in with. the sensors on and they're going off. you're going no that's just my necklace. yeah don't look through my don't don't. profile me that's my necklace going off. these are sensors. that's pretty cool. i think i think if someone was cool. enough they could make sensors cool. yeah like you know like because fashion. gets pretty ridiculous. like if you look back in like the 1700s. guys were wearing other dudes [ __ ]. hair and stockings wow and candy corn.

shoes so that and that just objectively. looks ridiculous but that means at some. point there was some dude who was so. cool who was wearing it that everyone. was like i want to be like him so they. started wearing [ __ ] ridiculous. stockings candy corn shoes and somebody. else's hair which is some real serial. killer [ __ ] and then the whole continent. of europe started doing it so if there. was a cool enough dude who started. wearing sensors and gave it value like. bitcoin which we all buy which we know. is stupid then i think people would. follow it depends on how [ __ ] cool. the person is wearing it.

fashion is completely subjective. yeah i never thought about that that. much i mean. yeah i think if you see somebody with. something and you feel like it looks. good. then if somebody else does it you'll. you'll kind of get into it you know yeah. like i'm not even lying this is a true. story i saw a dude the other day he had. a mullet and somebody else said you're. going with the theo vaughn and he was. like damn everyone keep saying that i'm. like maybe you are consciously or. unconsciously there's very few dudes in.

this country. who have a mullet still right that. aren't at a state fair right right you. know what i mean. who are visible yeah yeah like visible. beyond the local. word of mouth right right you're. physical with you're you're visible with. a mullet past word of mouth yeah yeah. and so if somebody has a mall now you're. going like you're you're theo what are. you doing here yeah yeah you're a theo. fan yeah i got into it man i had it. growing up and then i got out of it. trying to fit in hollywood and then i. got back into it it's the best choice. i've ever made have you ever had long.

hair i have had long hair but more of. the johnny depp 21 jump street [ __ ] but. you never read the back go huh nah dude. i grew up in brooklyn you can't you. could. you can't i don't have the balls yeah i. was like that was it's well dude it's. like having balls. it's your ball it's like your hair has. balls it's exactly what it's like yeah. have you ever said that before. no but that is the funny let the. funniest way to describe a mullet. because yeah it's like your hair it's. like there's balls here and they're kind. of they're dangling around you can move. them a little bit and there's power in. it yeah well that's the thing there's.

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theo. so i just want to get where you started. man yeah and i didn't mean to offend you. if i said that you're from another. country man no i didn't i thought that. you were from another country no did you. think i was offended i wasn't offended. at all okay good yeah yeah i was i was. wrong with it yeah because i get it um. no i was i was i'm from new york my. parents are from another country okay. there so yeah i'm i'm kind of recently. american okay as well i fit into that. category if we open up the bubble a. little bit. cause uh my mom had to get her papers oh. she did yeah my mom had to get her.

papers and where did she come from she. came from greece. yeah really grace did you have greeks. down there's no greeks down louis we. never had a greek here. we never on the show never yeah never. dude we've had a we got a charter who. you know. other people we have put pens and. replaced from a different country people. come from. well i'm glad to diversify that yeah i'm. glad yeah man represent for a whole. nation there's not uh. so your mother came from greece my. mother came here uh she was like kind of. a refugee after world war ii my mother.

was old she had me when she was in her. 40s which is a real today [ __ ] thing to. do she did it back then and uh so she. just recently passed away but she yeah. she was there during the nazi occupation. and. she was there uh yeah for world war ii. and then she immigrated here so my. mother was born there my father was born. in brooklyn but his parents were born. over there in the old world as we call. it wow as white people call it the old. world yeah yeah europe you know. so i'm a one and a half. a first generation i'm a recent i'm a.

recent i'm recently american damn so you. weren't you weren't a hundred percent. wrong you weren't 100 right you were. more right than wrong oh thanks yeah. yeah i mean you you you smelled. something. well i just and i think it's probably. yeah just the name people are like oh. what's going on here yeah you know. i don't know you i'm thinking black guy. yeah linebacker. something. cause vaughn. boom and then i see you theo vaughn your. name doesn't seem very.

doesn't match you either where does your. name come from well my father's from. nicaragua my mother's from actually um. illinois. so. your mother's wow nicaragua was in there. so we got um. and yeah and then my father was part i. think pontiac indian as well so we had. some good you know something a little. bit here and there kind of you know. should we the pontiac car is catching no. heat. i mean it's like the cleveland indians. are catching heat.

the washington redskins are catching. heat yeah the pontiac car is still. floating bring up a pontiac if you can. brother yeah i mean. is cancer culture going to get to that. it should when you think of how many. things are named after native american. stuff it's like you really and i can't. think of them right now. steak oh yeah it's a lot brother let me. ask you this question as far as the. cleveland indians what's worse sounding. to you the cleveland indians or the. cleveland browns cleveland browns sounds. a lot more like a slur to me.

oh that's hate these browns oh he's. [ __ ] browns i hate the browns every. year sounds a lot worse than i hate the. cleveland indians just yeah look at. these indians look at these indians. where they look at these browns are. these indias these indias um. yeah i mean look i love a racial slur. honestly and uh who doesn't. if it's set in just. yeah bro even if here's the best if. you're walking down the street somebody. yells it you don't see who yells it.

it's [ __ ] great yeah if somebody like. is point blank like ripping me that's. [ __ ] up dude but somebody's using. somebody you know drives by and they. yell it bruh [ __ ] new you know yeah. it's a that that enhances your day oh. kurt metzger has the best slur i've. heard for greeks ever is that my phone i. apologize jesus christ special needs. brother time for your daughter to wake. up. um kurt metzger has the best slur for. greeks that i've ever heard because. there's it's there's not many. and he just uh one time he was doing the.

stand-up set it's online somewhere but. he just goes he was dating a greek girl. and her dad didn't approve as greek dads. usually don't of anyone greeks hate. everybody and he just goes can you. believe that dude. a diner monkey from ass [ __ ] island. i was like. that's the best that's the best slur. diner monkey from ass [ __ ] island. doesn't get better than that so that's. what i am i like that yeah man. because we do diners is like the that's. like the greek passport into america and.

why is it because of all the dishes and. stuff because y'all guys are like dishes. is a big party house culture huh yeah. maybe that's why i never thought of it. maybe it's because access to dishes. that's the first time i've heard that. theory huh you came up with that in a. split second too. well it's i guess we throw them we throw. them right it's part of the it's like a. tradition yeah so yeah i don't know that. much about greeks man um. is that. we got a healthy history man oh well i. know i've seen a lot of the artwork and. stuff like that yeah now that's.

beautiful little penises though a lot of. statues little pieces oh they didn't. really they saved cement huh yeah. yeah. you got around there yeah i don't know. why they did that but all the penises. are really small in the old statues well. do greek girls have big butts i think a. lot of the penis size of the males of a. culture has to do with the size if you. have to reach the vagina of the woman. you know. you're coming up with some theories that. i haven't thought about you so you're. saying you were saying without saying.

correct me if i'm wrong yeah you're. saying without saying black dudes got. big dicks because black girls got big. asses. and to be able to reach the vagina they. have to so it kind of evolved that way i. think so i mean it makes sense. yeah i mean when i think about a lot of. times if i think about having sex with a. black girl it's like well i mean all. this certainly depends but it's like. i couldn't do it you got your dick has. to wear lifts yeah to get there yeah. yeah. like you gotta get to do all the dick's.

shoulders. yoga yeah my dick's gonna need to be. like one of the ones with the like two. kids in a like top coat. like oh i'm here to let my kid go on the. field trip yeah yeah oh my god and. chinese asian. no butts no butts and also. corresponding correlated yeah. hypothetically hypothetically but we all. know it's true littler penises yeah. holy [ __ ] maybe. because yeah i mean that's just like. about nature like a hummingbird. has to have that beat because it has to.

be able to um. this. you know what i'm saying but it's not. right. so i think you might have just lost. confidence in it you might yeah i mean. you might you might have been going. somewhere yeah hummingbird has to have a. beak because it just you know it gets in. a certain type of flowers and it's like. the deep ones was that the moment when. you realize you didn't know that much. about hummingbirds i think it's the. moment i realized i didn't know that. much yeah you had you had enough. knowledge to get you to that point yeah. and then you're like what else did they. do yeah i'm done yeah i'm done with that.

okay so you guys started in new york i. just wanna i know a lot of people know. you but i want to make sure that my. audience knows i appreciate that i. forget that sometimes like even though. like i have some knowledge of of someone. or you know i know that they're a great. comedian or um but my audience doesn't. know so you started out in new york. started out new york grew up there i. grew up in brooklyn new york. greek american uh grew up i started. there um long time ago. quit for a while uh had some things. happen and uh you know trauma and things.

like that my head's all messed up which. is a constant challenge and then uh i. got back into it and um i started doing. stand-up consistently donald rawlings. was really the guy who got me into. comedy like stand-up got me back in. after i quit and i was doing sketch 2. and i did some viral characters on. youtube early and early in youtube. and uh started touring doing those but. always was a stand-up i started as a. stand-up and i've been doing it you know.

on and off because i took some time off. you know of like. i'd say close to 20 years man 15 20. years i've been around i'm like the bull. durham yeah even when i did new faces in. montreal which is like comics that's. like when the industry takes a look at. your whatever i was like i was like the. dude i mean i was in what was i i was in. my late 30s i felt like bull durham yeah. everybody else was these young prospects. and i'm like i was like an old catcher. been around you know yeah you got icy. hot on before. yeah i had like i have little tricks oil.

here like the dude from major league the. old reliever. yeah you're like oh the guy after he's. like oh why does this mic have sap on it. yeah like i said that's an old-timer. trick you know. wow so um when you took time off what. did you think because i had a i had a. spot where i think for probably about. seven months i took off i just felt like. i wasn't maybe i didn't know what i was. doing. was there a reason that you took some. time off what was it yeah so i uh i got. shot early on i started doing comedy in.

2000. i got shot in 2001 by a gun buy a gun. yeah no way yeah yeah wow and what did. it feel like it burns it's hot. it's just hot think about that yeah it's. hot you don't you know your body takes. care of you like chemicals whatever that. is for the pain and like. your body releases [ __ ] that kind of. bites dmt daddy yeah it's dmt. i guess but then afterwards when all. that adrenaline adrenaline and also. adrenaline when adrenaline dies down. it's just heat it's hot you could.

actually see smoke coming out of the. hole like a little bit of smoke yeah. yeah damn. and uh so that was fun though when night. in the hospital i got shot like close to. you know my dick and ass did you really. yeah like right here yeah ooh and you. could see smoke coming out so for a. second yeah you could see a little smoke. coming out when they cut my plastic. pants off of me jogging pants or. whatever you call them like your femur. is [ __ ] vaping in there. yeah that's what it looked like. and um and then you feel the heat and. then a little sting when all the. chemical when all the whatever.

adrenaline rushes uh comes down and i. just got lucky it didn't hit an artery. or anything like that but you know the. the that wasn't the the problem was was. the panic attacks that started. afterwards like sort of the ptsd that. i didn't know what it was and so i. started having like these panic attacks. and i it was related to the trauma from. that like just walking around being. scared like oh [ __ ] that happened to me. it could happen any moment and i didn't. know what it was so i just dealt with it. for a while i didn't know what trauma. was or what was going on i would just. get on a train in new york and i would. just start bugging out and like. hyperventilating wow and then not.

knowing why is like my subconscious so. i'm going what the [ __ ] is going on and. i just live like that for a while and so. i quit comedy because i i get up on. stage and i'd have these massive panic. attacks. you're making me pain yeah right now it. was weird time and then i i just kind of. quit started doing social work i did 9. 11 disaster relief for a while. and uh donald wrongs like i said was the. guy who kind of pulled me in he saw me. once. uh thought i was funny and then he uh he. had a room on the upper east side of new. york city every tuesday wednesday uh.

called marion square and i would get up. there once a week and then chappelle. show this about 2005-6 your peloso took. off he took me on the road with him. charlie uh it was bill burr for a little. bit then uh christian finnegan from the. show yeah and uh that was real nice of. him so i always uh i i always owe him. for that i always like. you know it was a real nice thing for. like you know a comic to be like hey. you're funny and then like try to help. me which i did i yeah i'd sell his. posters and i'd do five minutes and it. was nice to also go on the road and see.

success because i had never seen anyone. like make it and i knew dino before he. made it and then like i saw his outfit. change yeah and i some go from timbo's. to like. a higher priced. higher priced shoe yeah like the outfit. change that's where you can tell money. and comedy i've seen i've seen a lot of. my friends now you know yeah even tim. dillon's gone from like. bin basket polo yeah to like balanciago. or some italian name i can't even. pronounce wow without sounding like i'm. from new york too much. yeah it's just a it's an outfit change.

now did you i'm gonna go through a. little bit of that so yeah with the. trauma stuff did you know that it was. part of um. [Music]. like did you see you felt a lot of. anxiety i'm guessing like uncovered but. were you able to relate immediately that. that it was because of the gunshot thing. no it took me i had to go to therapy. finally i went to therapy i just was. like muscling through it. not knowing like i i it was kind of. emasculating for it to happen be like. why am i so scared i would i would. freeze up i would like i wouldn't be. there was one time i thought i was.

having a heart attack and i couldn't. move and my whole body just kind of. froze i couldn't move i guess that's. what they call scared stiff. and uh i told my friend i was with my. friend on the train i was like call. ambulance i'm having a heart attack and. they came and they're like you're fine. like what they took all my vitals and i. was like. i was like because you don't feel fine. so you're going like you must be wrong. you must be wrong i'm dying and i wasn't. and it was just these panic attacks that. would happen and i i really didn't. have a reprieve from them i didn't. really get away from them until i.

started going to therapy therapy works. you got issues i recommend therapy yeah. yeah i recommend therapy um and what. were you able so how did they what was. the process kind of of relating. of figuring out that that was it it was. uh sitting with a therapist being she. was a female therapist i was attracted. to her. so did you tell her that i didn't tell. her that which felt like i wasn't being. open in therapy. you know because that must have been a. thing like a mommy issue or something.

but because of that i was just more. i don't know i was more vulnerable open. like guys you always a little. standoffish when you sit with a guy. you're like [ __ ] you're a guy like i. don't i gotta i can't be vulnerable. around a guy you always gotta be a guy. but a woman you just kind of you can act. a little more like a woman and talk. about your feelings right so i was able. to something about her. opened me up and i was able to talk. about it and uh. and i got over the fact that i wanted to. sleep with her maybe it's because of the. connection you know we're comics we're.

all [ __ ] up we got walls up there's. reasons why we stand on wood planks for. chicken fingers for 10 years to have. strangers give us. uh. you know it's because we didn't get. something else. so there's walls up but she was able to. take those down she was beautiful too. god her legs was the problem if she wore. pants more. but maybe that's what opened me up i was. always distracted with her legs oh yeah. yeah they were just nice oh i noticed. i'll be involved in anything do not hear. a set of high heels in the distance and. i have no control over my ability to.

zone out of whatever. [Music]. um. is going on so the the sound of high. heels. yeah and it's not even about sex it's. just the idea. that a woman could be around you know i. think when i was young i didn't get that. care and so it was like the simple idea. that a woman could be coming around to. give me some type of care affection oh. like. it's like there's a part of me that just. cannot help but. go and listen for that listen to that i.

read it the wrong way i like i was. reading it like a like a predator. hearing pray like you know oh no like a. coyote hearing like movement in the. brush. no you were yours was more of like a. nurturing thing you needed yeah yeah i. think that's where that kind of yeah. with chicks it for me is that's the. first part of it do you like to suck to. did you were you breast fed. by a small breast. so. you do you like when you get a big one. do you just. oh i. definitely.

i have i've overstayed my welcome yeah. on a big tit this is like the second or. third time already in this podcast. you've said something without saying. something and i picked up on it the. first one was but now i know you were. basically saying your mom had small. breasts oh my mom knows it yeah is if. she the one who breastfed was your mom. who breastfed you i i i sometimes. another woman will get in there in. african villages yeah no my sister's. aunts my sister's cousin-in-law brett. they would breastfeed each other's. children the um but i believe that my. mother did it as far as i know right but.

yeah small breasts you never shake the. trauma from be. breastfeeding out of a small breast you. never the [ __ ] just the rattle just. trying to rattle a drop of milk out of. something so small it's insane it's. insane that we let a child do it. what's insane when you sit think about. right now a kid. unlike a lowercase a cup i just imagine. you not being able to get find anything. you're trying to grab you just you know. you're just hitting the bag you just you. know and there's just nothing in there.

like a wall climber looking for. somewhere to put your fingers and. there's just nothing it's just a flat. wall. it's not it's traumatic it's definitely. exactly what you said it's traumatic. crazy that you remember that too even. though there was no video evidence. well i do believe that when i start to i. can feel the desperation of it and the. why isn't there something there so you. remember the feeling not necessarily the. facts well i think i always have that. feeling right something i'm missing.

something something isn't available. right something isn't. complete right so i just take it back to. usually things like that probably and. not specifically breastfeeding but. just the feminine connect me to a you. know connecting to a feminine a feminine. across the board yeah you know but. do you want things to be complete. like. being alive is kind of incomplete we're. only complete when we die and we you. know. god willing we go we go to the party you.

know yeah. yeah i just think if your foundation has. a you know if you got all the stair. steps and you can get onto the porch you. know yeah and so i always feel like we. [ __ ] just had a pile of wood right. there. no nails. i like it no plan that analogy was very. like. that was like your background you're. like you saw a porch you went the stairs. i would have gone like elevator push the. button oh wow yeah were you guys pretty. well off growing up we were okay we were. okay yeah i was my friends had less.

money my parents were both lawyers oh. wow really yeah but they made like a. hundred thousand dollars which back then. was like a lot of money still a lot. still a lot i guess it's still but back. then i guess it was a lot a lot. yeah yeah a hundred thousand back then. man that was almost as much as you could. have it seemed like i don't even think. it was possible to have more than a. hundred thousand right somebody had a. hundred thousand dollars yeah i don't. you never heard of anyone if someone had. more than a hundred thousand dollars. back then they hit it they did not talk. about it they were yeah they were they. were doing something real illegal yeah.

i felt the only way to get more than a. hundred thousand was illegal i felt like. back then. there was like a cap back then it seemed. like it yeah you know um. so we were we were okay we were pretty. well off like i went to private school. oh so they had enough to send me to. private school yeah but back then. private school was like you know 10. grand a year 15 grand a year something. like that it wasn't like now which is. like. it's a lot you got to re you have to. have a lot more than a hundred thousand. dollars to go to private school now. um but all my friends went to public.

school so they would just they would oh. that's good yeah they would always steal. money out of my dad's pocket when he. left his pants up on the and do greeks. oh yeah do greeks carry a lot i feel. like greeks carry like a lot of cash on. them always cash apparently white people. are they very paranoid defensive people. yeah. they're uh we were formerly enslaved by. the turks so i think all people. who are like uh you know i think the. irish have it a little because the. english [ __ ] them it is heartbreaking. right like lauren think about it yeah. because then all that trauma gets stuck.

in people then it's coming out in crazy. ways you know it's coming out and some. guy [ __ ] you know beating somebody's. face in with a hard hero over here you. know. common crime in the greek community it. never ends. that's when the air damage we were. talking about can happen to a hero too. yeah. um okay so now you've been in new york. for a long time you've done comedy over. the years you got shot you took a break. who shot you do you know i do know who. shot me yeah well i know i don't know. him he's not like i didn't know him.

personally but we had to go to trial and. everything he pled not guilty oh yeah so. i had to sit there and. testify and uh. yeah. it was just it was an attempted robbery. because i was with the the friend i was. with was a promoter so he carried a lot. of cash with him so i assume it was an. attempted robbery or carjacking or both. you know and i was just wrong place. wrong time and i made the. i maybe the wrong decision or right i. mean. in that moment you know you're either.

like free like i just grabbed his arm. and tried to get it away and fired and i. just. point blank range. i got shot maybe it would have been. worse if he was farther away so the. bullet had a little chance to i don't. know how fast i don't know which. bullet goes faster i'm not i'm not a. ballistics expert like if a bullet picks. up steam or loses yeah does it pick up. steam i guess at a certain point it. would pick up steam right certain. distance there must be an apex. if you're a certain distance away where. it's the fastest where you could do the. most damage i don't know.

thank god it was a little fatter then. because it got caught in my butt cheek. and the bullet stayed in there is it. still in there no i took it out a couple. of years later that was a wild moment. when they took it out because. uh they put you under. and. the way i came to. and they had me up in stirrups like i. was at a gynecologist because they the. surgery happened right here so i came to. like this with my legs up and i came to. when i farted. and i farted with the doctor and and the. nurse down there and they were like.

laughing because i farted but like i. didn't know where i was and i had to. pass gas. and then they took it out. and it was that's that's all i remember. about that surgery and that put an end. to that trauma. really right when the bullet came out do. you feel like it was just having the. bullet in you still like yeah carrot was. in there it like totally yeah the spirit. of it was in there yeah the spirit of it. was like an invasion like the bullet was. like. you know it was it was my it wasn't. paying rent yeah part of my buy all the. rest of my organs pay rent yeah and.

there was this thing and i was just. freeloading damn and i was like i got to. get this freeloader so finally. we evicted that we evicted that bad. tenant that was in my leg and uh that's. unbelievable man i didn't even know that. that happened to you yeah. yeah i've spoken about a few times. um i never really joked about it or made. jokes out of it uh because it was i it. wasn't funny to me it was like that. would make me sad and i didn't know what. was funny about it now i feel a lot. better about it it happened a long time.

ago you know i feel like i'm solidly a. man now you know as a comic i don't. think i became solidly a man until like. two years ago really yeah we're all yeah. don't you feel like are you growing you. have grandkids no i don't have anything. like that i don't know i don't even have. original children yeah. do you have uh. fake ones or imaginary replica ones no i. don't have any wife or nothing like that. yet i plan on getting it though you do i. know i learned a lot about it yeah. you're special yeah i watched let me see. 34 minutes of your special that's about. that's right that's probably more than.

what the algorithm is telling me that. people watch so it was cool farther than. most people yeah it's really really cool. um. what's the name of it i i don't oh wait. i do know what it is it's called um. something mom mom love mom love sorry. mom love no that. um anything in the area of mom it's like. pronouncing my name i'll respond to. yannis giannis giannis yeah and i could. i mean i could have looked at the. wikipedia page before i just forgot what. it was named i'm not trying to say that. i don't care no i know okay cool yeah.

yeah totally um. yes you got the new special this is on. youtube it's on youtube yeah it's on. youtube it's cool man you shot over. there madison which was nice really cool. spot yeah and when i shot it i just. decided to shoot it that night i had no. plans to say i did my album a couple. years ago that's comedy on stage too. which is like it's a great club it's. just. run well and the audience is always. great and you know who runs it greeks. yeah great crazy two greek young ladies. and their greek father who's. really killed it i mean he came to this.

country like with like five bucks now he. owns he owns like the whole state street. they should rename it to like state. docky street it's like greek yeah greeks. conquered we came and we like. like alexander he came and he just took. over all the restaurants there alexander. the greek right alexander the greek yeah. he was alexander the great but yeah he. was great. macedonians will say he's macedonian. greeks will say he's greek they fight. about it and it's like guys who cares. it's like one of those. inter-fighting things where you're like.

dude like it's like between like serbs. and croats you're like guys i can't. [ __ ] tell the difference like the ira. the northern irish and southern they're. [ __ ] fighting the ukrainians and. russians if i put a ukrainian russian. here right now do you think. one out of ten people from any country. will be able to tell me what the. difference is when they start [ __ ]. talking between ukraine and russia what. are they fighting over aren't they the. same kind of like northern i think a. syllable probably i think there's a. couple syllables still on the board for. or like a vowel maybe probably if.

they're fighting over anything it's. probably a vowel over there because if. you hear those people talk you don't. there's zero vowels involved. yeah oh stop all these and l's now. yeah then the norwegians and swedes they. have their hate for each other like. people just hate each humans like to. hate yeah we'll hate whatever's closest. it's just well i think what do you what. do you think that is i think part of it. is because you just want to there's some. need to feel what.

why do people want to hate. i think part of it is uh it gives you a. feeling of feeling okay. if i can think this is worse yeah if i. can think that that person is. is not as good. it's easier i think it's scary like what. i think eye contact is scary i think. making strong eye contact if you keep. making it for a long time i think two. people are either going to fight or [ __ ]. okay like okay you have to look away at. some point whereas it gets too powerful. or like fall in love like eye contact.

it's a good point ever thought about. that there was like a spectrum of eye. contact yeah you got at some point you. got to like look away you're like are we. going to [ __ ] you know like i can't i. mean or somebody's going to see. something in you that you don't want. them to see or that it's going to be. you're going to be too. you're too insecure you know you don't. want the person to know you're lying or. whatever it is or you're hiding. something so i think that's the thing. that is a barrier always with people and. i [ __ ] you i don't want you yeah i'm. hiding something i'm not comfortable. with who i am so. it just turns into like hey yeah it's. got to be that.

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that's why i almost became a quaker. you didn't almost became a quaker i. almost chose to become a quaker were you. gonna marry into it or no no i was just. gonna show up one day and be like i'm. down with what you guys are doing what's. the deal do i gotta do paperwork or do i. you got to dunk me in water i want to do. what you're doing. because the way they get married. i went to a quaker school for a little. while brooklyn friends right because. like these quaker schools and their. thing is real beautiful man it's about. silence really so like every day they. have a silent meeting and everyone just.

sits in silence and nobody speaks unless. they're moved to speak and then the. weddings. the the. bride and groom to be or whatever. they're called i don't know what the. quakers call them yeah you know whatever. they may have some like allegories from. quakers or they call the weddings what. i don't know but at a quaker wedding. yeah i don't know the way they get. married is a guy and the guy and girl. who are getting married yeah just and. all their friends gather around the guy. and girl just sit for about an hour and. stare at each other and everyone sits in. silence and then after about an hour or.

so they're just married and nobody. speaks unless god moves them to speak. and that's it and i just thought that. was so beautiful because if you're. sitting with the person you're going to. spend the rest of your life with and. you're sitting there for an hour you're. probably having every fear every hope. every insecurity. everything transpire in your head yeah. and you're just like. it must be a real. like just. roller coaster of emotions and if you. feel good about it after that hour you. know you're probably doing the right. thing but if you start feeling some.

bad feelings you probably know you're. gonna have to. cheat wow yeah i guess at that point you. really all you're left with sitting. there after an hour probably is some. pure ass honesty probably that's right. yeah i you said it a lot. better than i that's what i was trying. to say yeah and then i guess some of. your friends do they speak up in those. instances or not if god moves them. supposedly but can you bring that up. here what do we have like a quaker. wedding sit in or is it like a um. [Music]. yeah i wonder what they would call it.

i don't know yeah maybe they just call. it a quaker wedding. yeah that's a good question man what do. they call it. do quakers make. often referred to as the silent ceremony. quaker weddings. differ. from the traditional protestant ceremony. in four significant ways there is no. efficient. no giving away the bride. a wedding certificate is signed and. there's a long period of silent open. worship after which those attending may. speak on the.

couple's behalf. and you know the quakers were against. slavery too early on they're pretty. they're pretty like clean dude i like. that religion man it's just kind of. quiet and like. no mantra no dogma. bring up some images of these folks huh. do you mind so we know who we're. actually considering here. well they they look like the dude on the. quake quaker oats box they all look like. that oh god really still yeah they still. kind of roll like that hmm get some vans.

or something at least. they got it gotta they gotta change a. little bit throw on some damn quick. silver or something you know yeah some a. little more weather appropriate at least. yeah orthodox jews the same thing they. wear the same wool. like black suits even like in the middle. of july oh dude i was at this halfway. hour like not a halfway house but like a. recovery house or whatever and this. orthodox jewish dude had to roll in. right and this and it's just like you. know different guys staying in there and. stuff. and. this guy rolls up dude he was dressed.

like biggie smalls right it was last. summer. bro it was this was in arizona it was. 104 degrees this dude rolls out just. like bakey smalls and had a grill that. he would cook his food on in his room at. night really just grilling this like. kind of shady fish kind of like this. [ __ ] you know. i don't know what type of fish it was. but i i it just it was unveiled the dude. is pouring sweat his hands were all. sweaty every time you shook his hand it. felt like you were like babysitting one.

of those uh. like one of those oil spill animals you. know it was just. disgusting bro. i'm like oh my i was like if you were. like. get this will kill you you can't this. can't be like a. heavenly choice or whatever you'll die. in this yeah they. i guess when their. mantra or whatever their dogma says this. is how you dress wow it doesn't change. there's no update yeah like there's no. there's got to be jesus like whoever. their jesus is has to come back and be.

like. dude thank god i came back to tell you. this because i can't watch you guys. suffer anymore yeah you don't have to. you can take a couple layers off when. it's hot oh we need tank tops yeah fam i. like to call this shady fish was it a. shady fish because you just couldn't. identify it i mean anybody that's. grilling room a fish in their room on a. little grill like that at night trying. to and he was trying to secretly do it i. think because one of the rules was you. couldn't cook in your room because a lot. of people are drug users in there ah so. one dude's cooking a fish one dude's. cooking up a batch of whatever you know.

some fireball for his arm you know so. it's like the guys will cheat they're. like oh he cooking i'm a cook so it. wasn't the fish that was shady it was. the whole. situation what was going on though he. was more shady it was breaking the rules. oh okay so the fish was just a fish yeah. all right cause i was trying to picture. of shady fish being like and he kept. wanting like gum or something from me i. think he couldn't have gum so he was. like break it was like i had some kind. of candy or something he kept one oh it. was nerd ropes so this dude [ __ ] kept. every time i get my nerd ropes open.

he could hear the bag from the distance. bro from across the desert dude like we. with high heels and you oh. yeah he'd come around. and then watch him just nibble on this. nerd rope this dude oh. goimel or someone's name i don't know. that dude was oh have you ever uh like. this is what i like in my background in. new york there's a lot of like irish. catholic girls like catholic puerto. ricans catholic was a big religion it's. very repressive. sexually.

i almost felt like when you hooked up. with one of those girls. that the repression was worth it for. their. energy they were so. happy like you know like a religious. dude with nerd rope or whatever little. thing he can get that's not allowed it's. almost worth it like sexually it's. almost worth it for us all to be. repressed to give it a little something. extra oh i i i think that's what some of. the value in the having the repression. in religion for sex is yeah it's like to.

keep some energy in it to keep some fuel. in the tank yeah and yeah there's. definitely been a gal when she gets a. hold of your. nerd rope if you will even which is. still i don't even think about that a. great term for a wiener it is a really. good way uh. yeah they're definitely more keyed up. about it. like there's some. girls that'll damn floss their teeth. with it you know if you let them because. it's just like so forbidden yeah it's. just that forbidden you know it's a real. dessert yeah but if you just all day. you're just over there with your legs. open at the bakery then you definitely.

becomes tried it becomes there's no. value in it yeah. it's kind of a lot of our society we. burnt out a lot of the value of things i. think that's where we're at right now me. too we're almost like freedom's gotten. too free well pornographies burn down. like any like a lot of sexual energy so. i think you have a lot of marriages that. probably are. i wonder if you could calculate how much. pornography has killed marriages it's. probably killed a lot. not even marriage is just sex drive and. like imagination and.

you know like uh it's bad pornography is. bad and like it's bad because there's no. smells in it there's no people's. feelings in it. you're just it's something got to be. very unnatural about just staring at his. modern screen. moving pictures of something else that. you can't smell it's just like visual. and you're it that's got to be something. bad for your brain there. oh dude i remember biking across town. i'd bike over there i knew a buddy had a. couple titty mags over there his daddy. hit him right.

and uh. we'd bike kept him in the bathroom and. i'd bike over to his house it was like. seven miles from my house dude it took. me half of a sunday to get over there. and i'd bike over there and then just. use their [ __ ] all afternoon and i'd. just be in there playing with myself. they must have thought i was insane dude. i would come over there on the weekends. and be all sweaty. go in there just use a can for a while. touch myself and then drink a bunch of.

water take a nap and then bike back home. hydrate you have to hide because you. thank god you must you you that means. you had a vigorous masturbation. it was everything you had was in there. yeah yeah you really back then you. really yeah it was unionized yeah i was. saying the [ __ ] we got now. you're lucky if you get ladder 14 out. there yeah yeah. the um the mags because i i'm from that. generation too. so i used to put them out like that i. used to put them out yeah and then like. we would we would share them one person.

would be one friend would be done with. them pass them off to you and there'd be. a circle i would put the mags out like. that like four of them and make my own. moving picture just by looking at all oh. just real fast yeah just real fast i. would go like counter clockwise too and. i would just try you know yeah yeah so i. was kind of ahead of the game when it. like you know oh yeah yeah a little bit. i was making it yeah yeah i did my i. used my imagination in some way to make. this situation a little more valuable. yeah because it's hard to just look at a.

calvin klein ad and just. it's tough kate moss only lasts you know. it's just like. you know you need movement you need. something else yeah i need more yeah i'm. a guy who needs a little more you know i. need love i need a woman you know to be. distant i need her to be adopted like. that's what i need yeah in order for me. to feel something i need her to have. some real big issue that i'm trying to. solve that'll never be solved that i can. chase hmm like um adoption's a good one. adopted women are. like a nicholas cage movie almost that's.

a whole you can never feel the rejection. from the mother. so is amber heard adopted i would have. like if she i would not be surprised she. was adopted she has that vibe to her. she adopted. let's look it up i'm taking i'm taking a. guess. because adopted adopted people just that. the rejection from the mom is just. on that level you know a lot of us don't. get the nurture and all that but like. to just say he i don't want it that's.

something you can't fill. but so there's something alluring to it. amber heard. i can't see those are do you find her. attractive amber. her was born. she not adopted. yeah i don't think she was adopted. she's a younger sister named whitney. um. do i i actually a buddy of mine had a.

birthday and she and i both like spoke. at his birthday or whatever did like a. little. i don't think it's like a eulogy i don't. know what it is but like a thing you. know. and uh. so that was kind of interesting just one. time getting like. um. [Music]. met her just briefly i don't know i i i. don't to me she's not that she's not my. type i don't think but what's your type. mmm. just probably different than her maybe. okay.

not blonde not blondier girls don't like. me really no they've never. i'm getting a lot of blonde you know. what do you get man what do you have i. know you got one you especially have. some great jokes about weddings man i. was howling thank you dude i appreciate. that i was howling dude thank you uh my. my wife she's she's greek oh wow do you. have to marry a greek i didn't have to. and i did which is weird because my. parents didn't care about that at all. and i did it which makes me.

figure why did i do that but i love her. i love my wife there you go good that's. a good thing and i didn't marry her. because she was greek i just married her. because the vibe was nice. i got i i when i met her i think i was. at a point in my life where i'd made so. many mistakes. i don't regret any of them because they. were all fun they were just meant to end. some of the fun of [ __ ] is just meant to. end. and so like you can't ever you just look. back and go like oh that was fun but it. was meant to end. you know dude that's such an interesting. statement man yeah i think so because i.

think nobody ever hears that statement. yeah and so a lot of us get stuck in. this space oh the f has to keep going or. there's. but yeah some of the fun is meant to end. wow that's also what makes it fun that's. what makes it so fun. you know this uh this is powerful dawg. yeah i mean it's like damn steve austin. that's powerful like steve austin yeah i. mean everything has a balance here. it's a finite universe you run all the. way in this direction you're gonna come. out on the other side like miss pac-man. like this is not an infinite universe so.

it's always seeking balance and like the. fun or something is. you know the more you're going to pay. for it later you're either going to pay. in life people think they're not going. to pay but that's just because you. didn't have to pay up top sometimes you. walk into a restaurant you know and you. order first get the food but the checks. coming yeah even though you ate you. think you ate and you're gonna now you. or you're gonna be washing dishes yeah. but you're gonna pay there's always a. cost it's just either you pay up front. or you pay later bam so.

yeah if it's that fun it's like the. check's coming. were you giving did you have were you. did you think you wouldn't get married. yeah i wasn't i didn't think i was. getting married i'd have kids all that. stuff frightened me because of issues. and stuff uh you know uh parents were. divorced parents had really had. animosity towards each other and uh my. mother was like a little cold. you know she wasn't very nurturing oh. yeah yeah so that makes it a little. intimacy a weird thing did you ever go. to any of the recovery meetings or are.

getting the programs they're like no no. no no no i do go to therapy though. therapy helps therapy helps if me a lot. my therapist i love i think he's great. you know i just connect with him and. it works for me it's a man now you got a. man now i'm a man i think i'm a man. enough now to be able to open up to a. man wow back then it was just like i had. to be a woman because i felt too. vulnerable now i could cry in front of a. man dude i could [ __ ] cry in front of. a man. i mean i don't cry a lot i haven't cried. a lot but i can [ __ ] yeah i can [ __ ]. do it [ __ ] you if it came to it like.

you know we got in like a serious. [ __ ] convo i wouldn't hide it oh i'll. cry against anybody yeah i'll [ __ ]. cry i'll put on [ __ ] shoulder pads. any helmet cry. cry the [ __ ] out of a [ __ ]. [ __ ] two teddies dog i'll get two. touchdowns and [ __ ] cry. [Laughter]. you're comfortable with who you are then. that means yeah oh dude yeah i'll cry. for 400 yards dog yeah and six. touchdowns dude i'm not afraid to do it. you got like a you got like a i love.

your i said it before i think i might. have said it on someone's podcast but. like you got a rhythm to you it's like. listening to comedy jazz oh thanks man. and then you imagine you're painting. these pictures and you're like wow. you're just like there you go wow the. [ __ ] is a shady fish there you start to. see it you start to see the the fish act. in shade you see the dude like you paint. a picture with your comedy it's and it's. jazz it's very very very rhythmic. thanks man. like is that maybe that's like louisiana. i mean it's that influence of kind of. just like.

yeah rhythm yeah. yeah i don't know when i'm feeling good. everything feels pretty good i always. feel rude around a southerner. i feel rude i feel like my rhythm is. rude. like i'm you know what i mean like. because i'm good friends with nate like. me and nate came up together nate bar. gatsby oh yeah yeah he's feeling rude. around like he's and he always kind of. was like like always telling his body. language is always telling me chill like. chill right like what are you and i'm. like i'm just living man and he's like. yeah but it's it you know that's living. at a high level yeah a high octane a.

level that's like not where i want to be. and i'm like i'm sorry i'm taking you. know. yeah nate has a real past he's real he. has a real not passiveness but just like. a pacifisticity to him yeah he's real. real. home he seems organized yeah like he'd. be a good general i think. like a quiet general yeah maybe maybe. things would have been different if he. was. back then maybe the south. he they lost maybe they were a little. too laid back. yeah you guys lost that well i think we. had good generals but i think we just.

didn't have uh. well i don't know if we let enough of. the. favorite if they would have used more if. they would have had more slaves fight as. well. yeah but the cause wasn't right yeah. yeah i think the whole thing was kind of. discombobulated. it was definitely discombobulated yeah. that was. a good word to say. do you think that they we could ever get. back to another civil war. yeah unfortunately yeah. i do. yeah but it wouldn't be the same states.

against each other this time. um. yeah that's an interesting thing to. think because it's different it's not. like yeah. what would it be or to be over it may. not even be geographical it may be more. uh. city versus country where like the. countries just. had enough dude i i feel like it could. be religious almost too even yeah where. people want. more religious beliefs or religious. based beliefs i don't know i think maybe.

i think maybe a religious dictator may. be the only thing that could pull us. back together like joel osteen if he got. in power at. talk i mean he's got his i was just. thinking i didn't even he's got a mullet. kind of right he's got kind of that soft. boy mo like somebody that plays second. base that kind of gets a mullet yeah you. know yeah he's not but still. no he's still trying to be handsome yeah. you got to grow it past handsome yeah. you gotta have full balls once you grow. your mullet past handsome dude that's. when you know you that's that's when it.

knows you want it. so it's comfortable you you're. comfortable with it it's a full. commitment you're married at that point. you're in a relationship with your hair. yeah once you sat there for an hour. together he's just dating his hair right. now yeah he's still it's still like yeah. yeah it's still in the dating phase yeah. what would a civil war be about. um it would probably be about abortion. uh abortion would be one of them. um. bathrooms people really upset about. bathrooms. like yo man some one group's like yo we.

got enough bathrooms and another side's. like yo we need more. bathrooms. yeah and it's ironic because. construction workers. most of the time believe in less. bathrooms but it would be good for their. business to build more. you know i mean that's a great point. even think about that yeah and i always. wanted to i always wanted to know if. there should be like. i don't. like. should there be gay and straight. bathrooms gay and straight as well. well because if i'm a gay dude yeah and.

i get to roll into a place where other. dudes has their penises out yeah. it's like a fat dude walking into a. barbecue this is great. but that's okay right well i i'm not. saying there's anything wrong with it no. but i understand what you're saying. questioning like you know. is that or if there's a. should there be hey i'm a pedophile do. can i just go pee by myself somewhere to. keep me on whatever path i'm you know to. keep me away from. you know what i'm saying like how often.

do you separate it yeah i know exactly. these are really difficult problems to. solve because what if you know you're a. pediaphile right you know it pediatric. and you don't want to go in there yeah. you don't want to go in there because. it's just pediatrics are very hydrating. better very hydrated pedophile because. you mix pedialyte. and uh and pedophile. let me just turn that's that's me on. youtube. yeah just turn it off yeah not a crazy. idea. yeah because i don't know because it's. just like we keep separating everything.

we keep separating everything you know. but we you kind of have to that's the. problem like to govern this whole thing. that's the problem with freedom it's. like the oxymoronic thing about freedom. is. uh you know. i need to be okay with you doing. something different and and you need to. be okay with me doing something. different but by virtue of the fact that. we're okay with us doing something. different because we're free we don't. want to hang out with each other so we. separate and then somehow you got to be. like world it's got to be like a detan. like hey man you're going to that club. i'm going to this club you believe in.

that i believe in that obviously we're. not going to hang out because we believe. different things but that's going to. create separation and eventually cause. a problem yeah that threatens freedom so. it's kind of like this built-in. oxymoronic tenant to [ __ ] what. freedom is it's like built to fail. and that's why authoritarians always. come in and just make everything the. same. you know. and then you're like [ __ ] that was. inevitable and then that gets stale. because you know. you need you need jewish people to. complain in order for things to get.

better. yeah you know like if hitler got what he. wanted. they wouldn't nothing would get better. because there's nobody around to be like. ah this place is a little too small it's. a little too hot we need to change this. the food's a little cold. and then nobody knows what's good or not. but then that never ends though yeah you. got to curtail it back i think at some. point you got to christian it back a. little christian because then it's like. if you get so far down that this is. wrong this is then you're just at the. point where it's like the freedom thing. it's like when is this ever right it's. like two negative two negative two. negative right well it's like we're.

never. there's always going to be a problem. right right like at some point you can't. always have a problem right at some. point things have got to be like this is. good enough right because then that's. that that fosters greed because you're. like it's not uh this is bad that's bad. maybe this will fix it this will fix it. there's a problem every way you lose. there's a problem we look at everything. it's tough the only way to have be okay. is for us to just [ __ ] die. do you think i've thought about this. sometimes like do you think that humans.

are supposed to be here. when you look at the rest of nature it's. really interesting it's like. you know it's really. fascinating to me at this point in my. life. i believe. that. we're our perspective. is as involved in what reality is. as reality is. in and of itself huh you know what i. mean like me and you could be going. through the same. town right.

and like let's say i'm hungry like what. walking through it or driving. well we're strolling okay we're. strolling or does that even matter it. doesn't even matter but i like the. visual of it we're walking hanging out. we're talking all right it's a real. mellow talk we're chilling. your mouth's moving a little bit because. it's a little breeze oh yes yeah my hair. looks stupid because my mother-in-law. cut it yeah and i got to figure out a. way to get out of that but that keeps. happening well you guys live with her. well you know i told her once i got. another haircut and she like made some. like passive aggressive comments and now.

i'm like. i'm locked into this haircut dude when i. was young this lady missed bobby's to. cut my hair right and she wasn't even i. don't know haircut or not but she had a. stroke one time and i didn't know what. had happened i didn't know if she was. doing something whatever i just met her. and so i [ __ ] sat in this room bro in. the haircutting chair while she laid on. the floor for like six minutes dude i. had no idea what was going on what was. did you ever find out or huh yeah her. daughter came in the room and was like. oh my god they're having a stroke and. they call the ambulance. but it was crazy man i just remember.

i didn't know i didn't know if she had. taken a nap or if she was just so old or. something you know that cause any trauma. for you while you're getting a haircut. are you like do you keep asking are you. okay. i i actually ended up cutting my own. hair at some point in my life for like. probably 17 15 17 years yeah but um so. we're walking in the place okay you're. hungry. i'll say you're hungry i want to [ __ ]. all right right so since we're walking. we're inhabiting the same reality but. you're you're driven by a desire to eat.

i'm driven by a desire to [ __ ] so you're. going to notice all the food places i'm. going to notice all the [ __ ] okay so. our realities are different so. our desires and our perceptions i think. create what reality is as much as what. it actually is we're walking through the. same place right but we're noticing. different things so the reality is. different for both of us even though. there's this blank slate of what it is. so. it's sort of that thing does a does a. does a tree make a sound in the forest.

if nobody's there to hear it um yes and. no. because. you need the. faculty of sound to be able to hear it. so without humans at all. um. it doesn't make a sound. but the only way. the reason why sound is a phenomenon is. because we have ears so we wouldn't even. be asking a question if there was no. people here. so you need both for even the question. to be asked so we're part of this we're. like look you built this whole [ __ ] this.

is your imagination like this is like. this is just uh this is just a. manifestation of ideas. this is part of reality now but this was. in you you're like i like this picture. here i want that thing there i want. smart waters for my guests this there's. this is all this is theo like manifested. so like you've. this is reality right but this is you've. made it and this is like you've you've. built it you built reality. you know reality wasn't here without you. it's like.

you know so it's it's a little bit of a. symbiotic relationship happening at the. same time. so we kind of like build reality while. we're going like a dark tunnel with. nothing but do you think that we've. sometimes i wonder if years from now. we'll look back and be like holy [ __ ] we. went down a crazy uncomfortable. path of the reality we built you know. and like will we look back and like oh. man that whole path they took was wrong. and this is the correct way to go like. i i just feel like sometimes we've. gotten so far from like nature and. things that really like intrinsically.

like make us feel good maybe yeah that. we're so far from those receptors even. that it's getting like kind of not dour. cause life is you know there's a lot of. great moments but overall is it. is. and i want it could just be american. society doing well you know i don't know. comfort corrupts eventually it feels. like that a little bit it does maybe. you're right maybe like we would feel. more fulfilled if we were still hunting. and. women still had hair on their vaginas. and stuff like that there was a little.

more unpleasant trees we were used to. because when you make things pleasant. pleasant pleasant then you want more. pleasant more pleasant you're like yeah. oh there's no hair to choke on when i'm. meeting her [ __ ] but now i want her. [ __ ] tastes like honeydew and you just. keep going and you keep going yeah. till like you actually start putting. syrup in there yeah yeah which is where. we're at which is where we're at like if. there's no if it doesn't taste like. syrup then we're a little dissatisfied. yeah i mean people are selling freaking. you know uh condiments and stuff like. that for the body in the crotch. um. [Music]. yeah what else man we had some good news.

topics that came up what have what's. happening in the news guys. let me see what do we have here. is that you as abraham lincoln. i guess it is yeah. someone made that that's really a nice. thing somebody drew with all the. different faces on it. that's very cool all the podcasts and. before everything fell apart yeah. because it used to be a real. scene right and now it's like yeah it. still is it's just like more individual. scenes yeah you know yeah do you feel.

that because you guys were doing what. you guys did first you guys had history. history hyenas right yeah me and chris. and what happened was there a reason you. guys uh took it off you just run its. course yeah it kind of ran its course he. wanted to do different things and uh you. know uh i wanted to do different things. and uh you know we ended it kind of on a. high note i guess like you know. um i know there's a lot of speculation. about it and all this but you know it. was there yeah there's a lot of. speculation but in retrospect when you. look back you're like yeah i'm kind of. we're. probably both glad it ended when it did. and that fans should be happy it ended.

when it did you know it got a real cult. following people were really into it me. and chris had a real rhythm that we. built and uh it was this two-man comedy. which i love man it's like i love that i. love that i just love feeling you know. it's like me and you would be real good. friends because it's not totally smooth. but there's moments with smooth but if. we spend a lot of time together it would. get really smooth oh wow but it's real i. mean the bumpy moments are kind of real. right that's what that's how i kind of. like like my wife because i usually i.

would like if i was seduced by a girl. i'd fall in love with her and then it. would turn [ __ ] and i'm like that's not. the right way to go. and then the people who i want to be. around it's always a little there's work. because anything that's real takes work. yeah so like my wife i didn't have a. great time the first time she bored the. hell out of me i hope she doesn't watch. his podcast really yeah she bored the. hell out of me she just sat there. [ __ ] silent and i remember my friend. who unfortunately is going through a. rough time right now. but he told me i was complaining about i. was like she doesn't talk she doesn't. say anything he's been married for a. long time and he was gone he was going.

he was going like that so you're. complaining about that. and then that changed my perspective. which changed my reality i was like oh. [ __ ] maybe that is a good thing long. term that she's kind of chill. comfortable in her own skin doesn't need. to talk all the time because people need. to talk all the time are usually covered. up for the fact that they're they feel. insecure they're bored and i changed my. whole [ __ ] outlook on it wow and then. you end up marrying her and i ended up. marrying her so it's like i love i love. the two man i love like i had a. character and i had a my friend who. passed away angelo we did this live show.

and this we did this two-man comedy man. like angela bowers now uh angelo uh. lazada new york comic and uh he passed. away and um it was just there's. something magical about when you're. connecting with someone on a comedic. vibe and. the two you don't know where it's going. yeah you create something bigger than. yourself anytime you're creating. something bigger than yourself. is a beautiful thing i think a lot of. times people get depressed or anxious. because they're thinking about. themselves too much because we're boring. the thing is we may think we're great. but we're all just kind of like shitty.

humans walking around [ __ ] and. pissing and having itchy balls and like. we're dying slowly with air air. hardenings happening to us isn't that. wild that oxygen the same thing that. keeps us alive is also slowly killing us. that's what happens really just like a. fruit damn fruit the air gives the fruit. life but if you if you leave it too long. the air actually kills the fruit it rots. it that's air exposure overexposure damn. it's like aaron brockovich kind of it's. exactly like aaron brockovich [ __ ] and. um so i love that two-man thing and.

that's what me and chris had and um. and maybe it just kind of reached its. thing where it was like we did it you. know and like when you look back you're. kind of like that comedy exists for the. three years and then he's doing great. stuff i'm doing something different and. was it scary to change that would be the. part that's scary for me the scary part. to change to think like okay something. else is going to come along that's going. to fill this space. or i'm going to this is going to affect. my creativity or it's going to affect my. livelihood even like my ticket sales or. my people to be able to hear me did.

those kind of things come into your head. because that's that comes into my head. because i do another podcast you know i. think about well if i didn't do this or. or if i didn't do this or you know now. we're all our own businesses so much. that it's like if i let go of one little. segment of my business is that going to. mess everything up it gets scary yeah i. used to worry a lot more with that i. didn't worry at all and even thinking. about it when you were asking it is like. i don't i get i guess that means i. matured a little bit because it's like. maybe you believe in yourself a little.

more or you just trust something's gonna. happen you believe in your talents and. also taking. me accepting my own mortality which was. something that always scared me yeah uh. helps because it takes the pressure off. everything it's like if it's good or. it's not it doesn't matter like because. it's ephemeral it's going away anyway so. might as well try to connect to people. might as well try to have a good time. whether there's money involved or not as. long as i'm having a good time the. experience is the same like if me and he.

you were sitting here. this is a huge podcast right. um if it was a small podcast what would. be the difference in the feeling that me. and you were having there'd be no. difference yeah right it'd be no. difference between like what we're. trying to do here trying to get to know. each other which is a you know a. challenge for like we're just meeting. each other too and if it's filmed. because why not monetize that in this. era. and. it's like sometimes my wife talks i'm. like don't speak unless you [ __ ] we. got cameras wrong um. the other day i invited a friend.

that i don't know but like kind of a. buddy out for lunch and i was like [ __ ]. it feels insane inviting somebody else. but not a podcast. because it gets so busy but go on i. interrupted it yeah no but i was just. saying it it's uh that takes the. pressure off for me a lot that takes the. pressure off when i think about that i. put things into perspective and go like. when you're talking about do i get. scared like scared about like oh it's. gonna hurt my ticket sales or my. livelihood that fear always creeps in. but then i realized like. even if it does.

you know. i'm dying anyway or even if it doesn't. and i get money i'm still dying anyway. so hopefully i'm having a good time damn. and the one thing i did the silver. lining from having that moment when i. got shot and that i can share and it is. an experience that not a lot of people. have that i did have yeah where you. think you're gonna die in that moment. you think it's over and i did not like. the way i felt because you have this. moment it's like a dream. where you. it's hard to explain like you know like. a dream it's like how did that happen in.

two seconds how did i how did that whole. story happen and then scientists are. saying like it only happens in a second. your brain somehow does that thing where. you get like this recap where you look. at yourself you have this feeling about. who you are what you've done everything. and uh i was like i didn't like it and. so thankfully i was able to not die then. but i also burned with this knowledge of. like [ __ ] i don't want to feel that. again so like when i have that moment. when i'm dying i want to be chill i want. to be able to be like i like who i am i. like what i did i liked the way i lived.

i was true to whatever it is i want to. do and who i am and i tried at least or. to be brave or to be me or whatever it. is was it it felt important in that. moment and like uh wow so i guess that's. the silver lining of that moment it. sucked other than that and like knowing. like oh [ __ ] that's what you live for. you live for that moment you want that. moment to be peaceful you want that. moment because that moment is coming. there's no way to avoid it for any of us. so all this other [ __ ] comes and goes.

ups and downs but that [ __ ] is a. certainty and you have that moment of. awareness. that's interesting are you able to. recreate that moment in any other way in. your life that you've noticed since then. or the moment where are there times. you're like oh this is a little bit of a. recreation of that no wow no we could no. there's so much going on. it's so weird that [ __ ] moment man. it's a weird moment [ __ ] where were you. laying down no i was in the car you were. sitting in the car sitting dealing with. him while it was happening and also. that's why i'm saying it's so weird was.

also like having all these thoughts you. know and like feelings about people i. love bad things i've done and you're. bleeding i'm bleeding it's all happening. it happens in a second the sound i can't. remember the sequence of it it's just. kind of happening and you're in the. moment. and uh you're in two places i'm in the. moment reacting doing the things i was. doing with him like we were tussling. and uh i was also like someplace else in. this [ __ ] like last moment place. where you're something in you know is. like oh [ __ ] this is it because i didn't. think i was living i mean i'm in a car.

i know i'm shot. it feels ominous you know i don't know i. just you my mind just went i'm dying. this is it it's over the whole thing's. over you're in this effect. we you can cognitively know you can. cognitively say to yourself life is. finite but you can't really feel it no. you can't feel it unless you're in it. and then you're like oh [ __ ] and it's. all like the the reality of it being so. ephemeral and all going away is just. like it's freaky man it's like uh just.

now when i was talking about i was like. oh that's free it's a you feel like yeah. when you get that feeling sometimes like. this is all gonna disappear one day it's. [ __ ] like just now i felt translucent. i felt invisible just even was talking. about i felt like wow blurry it's like. oh [ __ ] this is all blurry. you know in its essence it's like really. like an abstract painting there's. nothing defined and we're on the way. it's weird and so. i don't know that was a good that was a. silver lining at that moment damn. but it also takes the pressure off it's.

scary but it takes a pressure off going. like oh wait you know. yeah if you're having fun. what's the difference yeah because. sometimes i'm like am i how much fun. what am i doing how much pressure am i. putting on myself you know i think about. those things all the time am i working. you know just like. it's hard sometimes to um do you have. any like hobbies you like to do outside. like something else where you're not. thinking about yeah i like doing jiu. jitsu and i like doing um. what else do i like doing playing wordle. playing scrabble on my phone. um how do you feel when you're doing.

those things you probably feel no. anxiety when you're doing those things. pretty chill yeah yeah that's why i like. talking to my. brother um. those are all chill [ __ ] dessert. dammit dessert's a great moment. that's a real good moment yeah [ __ ] that. brings a lot of good feelings i had a. couple last night boy had too many i. like going to different meetings and. [ __ ] uh. what um. let's pull that news story that came. back up let's get it one more time i'm. curious as to what happened with the. wedding and stuff like.

where you said did you have dating. issues where was just some of your stuff. there because i have a ton of that [ __ ]. man yeah well the merit the wedding. material you talking about oh the. wedding material but no just like you. had said like you know you didn't think. you were going to get married because i. worry about that sometimes i was scared. man like when it came when it comes to. commitment for me it's real hard it's. real hard and i had the same thing i i. give a lot of credit to my buddy paul. verzi who's a comic who. has been married for a long time has. kids they're kind of growing up was kind. of like married before he started making.

money as a comedian and that was like. his priority was family and that's what. he wanted and uh he just helped me he. kind of was my like he was like my. maverick he guided me in with that like. he helped me get the ring he showed me. where to go. he talked me through the feelings like. on the night i was gonna propose. this is. honest to god truth i felt everything in. my body was like i just want to leave. wow i just wanted to get in the car and. drive like thelma louise i don't even. know where i was going drive away i just.

wanted to drive away i didn't want to do. it every fear hit me. and then i did it. and it felt incredible. it was incredible. when i did it but. it was the opposite before i could. couldn't sit still in my skin like i was. just i could feel that oh god i was just. uncomfortable i wanted to leave i wanted. to get out of my body out of the. situation. but okay so you have those feelings but. was it telling you the situation is. wrong. the feeling was telling the situation is.

wrong everything's wrong i was doing. everything but it was just the fear of. commitment it was a fear of commitment. it was the fear of the choice i was. making which i knew would have. consequences that was something outside. of myself and it has to do with my. issues growing up and uh it's hard it's. hard to face that [ __ ] that's the. scariest thing i could ever think of. yeah and look marriage is like. it's it's work. but it's like stand-ups work too right. and we love stand-up we love comedy it's.

work sometimes. um but like flying on planes and doing. all that shit's work but then when we're. on stage that's the good part so it's. like it's real our love for stand-up is. real and i look at my love for my wife. and i'm like it's real you know we fight. uh we have different opinions. but. overall like we support each other all. the good you get out of it. is just puts everything in perspective. about everything else is not being. important and like it's family you have. a new family yeah and family never.

leaves. and. you have a womb you're like you have a. cozies place you have a cozy place where. you can she's asleep like you know i go. down in. the basement i put my hand on my balls i. watch a game and i feel i'm at home. and that's just a nice feeling even if. she's not with me which sometimes is. nice. yeah jesus more rooms that's why it's. like. [ __ ] mormons basements upper. basements yeah and then when you have a. kid it's like.

that's the thing man i mean i hate to be. so cynical about it but no this is all. interesting because i feel a lot of. these things a lot of people do i think. i mean even when i'm watching your. special and the talking about the. wedding and stuff and just a lot it's. like [ __ ]. when you have a kid. uh you realize what the meaning of life. is it's pretty. cynical it's no different than a string. bean or a cockroach it's like the. meaning of life is kind of just like to. reproduce that's what all animals are. doing and when you do it it's like.

nature you don't even have a choice you. just have these feelings of you know. you're loving something more than. yourself and then you're like everything. just feels easier because like oh you're. like oh that's that's what it's about. you're a little like oh this is [ __ ]. this isn't. this it's pretty cynical like there's no. like. great philosophy to figure out or no. apex feeling it's just like to give. to her or him or they or baby or. whatever your kid i do them yeah it's. just one but yeah yeah we only have one.

seat yeah. but uh that that takes you out of. yourself so maybe anything that takes. you out of yourself oh yeah makes you. happy. something bigger than you or outside of. you yeah that's the root of a lot of. recovery stuff too is just feeling. better is just getting out of yourself i. i respect addicts the most in fact i. tell my really good friend who's an. addict that he's my role model and i. mean that because i know what he has to. do i know what he has to go through and. he's built a family and he's sober and. just being sober and that he works out.

so much and put his addiction in another. place it's just i know how hard what he. does is i know what he's going through i. have people very close to me who have. who have. lost that battle for now. in big ways that are painful. um and then him to be able to day by day. he's just my role that strength for me. like that's who i look up to. like i look up to him really it has. nothing to do with career or anything. like that it's like you know i know he's. he's fighting that battle and i i just i.

have all the respect for people who have. to do who go through that you know i'm. lucky enough it's just lucky that you. don't have that yeah it's like my dad my. dad told me he he was very cynical but. he told me everyone. it's luck most of life is luck and that. was very disconcerting here as a young. person but the way he explained is like. even if you have your health like even. michael jordan you go oh michael jordan. that's not luck that's it yeah yeah yeah. it is but like he's lucky he didn't get. hit by a car right he's lucky we're. always lucky if we're like healthy or.

like you know nothing bads happen. because we don't control that [ __ ]. yeah right [ __ ] shooter come in here. right now and end us yeah you already. got shot yeah. so at this point. probably going to be your boy right here. yeah bro the chances happens twice i. don't want that no you don't want that. but yeah i can just totally man my whole. life i've had that commit that when it. comes to relationships and stuff like. that commitment you know like not even. never wanting to be totally attached to. somebody else you know like. even my girlfriends i would introduce.

them a lot of times by their first i. would just say this is my friend or this. is like i would never want to [ __ ]. have somebody else. have a say in who i was you know. um. that means you're independent you're. strong it does but it's also about. commitment like you know it's really. about. that's true some of it could be. independence but i think some of it's. about like um. yeah i just want to be totally stand on. my own and i don't want if somebody. thinks something of that person. i don't want to them think of it like.

it's like i have some. you don't want to. negatively reflect on you right yeah. which is kind of a crazy selfish way to. think it's not even it's not a choice i. make it's something that was baked into. me right you know it's something that i. know isn't healthy or conducive to. feeling okay. isn't it weird how we're like these. sensitive like of this all the species. we're like this. this most sensitive with feelings and. freudian issues like a turtle doesn't. think about his childhood yeah turtle's. not like my mom didn't.

but it's very valid for humans it's. weird. like they don't have issues. they don't need therapy animals don't. need therapy yeah it's that's why. sometimes i'm like are we this loose end. of existence that's not are we like the. appendix you know are we like this thing. that wasn't supposed to be there like. you know like the show lost kind of are. we like the thing that. wasn't supposed to happen if you lined. all the animals and stuff up like we. kind of fit in a little yeah but we're. definitely the outsider for sure big.

time we need pavement we need toilets. yeah that's a good question maybe this. is just an evolutionary mistake like a. you know like a byproduct of like that. uh evolutionary will that carries. species. through time and uh into survival and. maybe we're just uh yeah maybe we're. just a product of that will and then. you're like ah well. the end result of that is not supposed. to be. what it is because we've because we kind.

of mastered it all the other animals. still have some weaknesses but we're. like superman of the species. yeah we're making shows about i mean. it's like we're like we're like. yes we're like yeah like we're making. shows about life. and we're like you're living it we're. like we're doing it twice right that way. yeah we're doing holograms we're. perfecting we're making it look perfect. even though it's not it's like. it's interesting man it's interesting to. think uh. yeah but then also i can feel a god a. lot of times i can feel that there's a.

power that's greater than me you know. it's got to be so it's like. that. makes you think you're connected to. something else that there is some. purpose you know because i can i mean i. have no doubt that i feel a god you know. so i mean it's just my perception. maybe maybe that's what it's maybe we. evolved. in order to. to [ __ ] [ __ ] all the other species. who think they're the [ __ ] because they. walk around arrogant they're not humble. we're the only ones yeah right i mean.

[ __ ] lions walk around like their. [ __ ] don't stink dude and it's like look. i get it you're beautiful they're so. beautiful they're [ __ ] killing. machines and they run [ __ ] but not. anymore. not anymore dude we'll get some fat lazy. trophy hunter who's a ceo over here who. wants to feel because he's got too much. who come and just shoot you for sport. damn so don't [ __ ] walk around like. all like it's not like that anymore it's. not all like that you can't be rolling. around the jungle like that so maybe we.

like we get humbled by god maybe we're. their god and that's was our purpose. because they were [ __ ] acting up. maybe they were all sinning like why the. [ __ ] they got to be dicks like that why. does the hyena have to kill his his. brother and sister just to you know just. because he wants to be the bad one and. show his mother that he can survive more. why not why not help him why not find. out what he's good at he's your brother. yeah he's not as strong as you but maybe. he's good at puzzles or some [ __ ] yeah. yeah yeah raccoons eat their children if. they want to have more sex they they're.

probably going to hell that's bad that's. sinning they have to so maybe we were. like their god and be punishing them you. could easily if you open the door to. imagine you open the door to hell and. there aren't a million raccoons in there. you would have to be disappointed you'd. be like dude. they're allowed to do that and i'm going. to hell because i cheated on my math. test that would be that would be bad. dude there's a picture of some dogs. having sex when we're young and my. brother and i are both hugging one of. the dogs around the net.

pretty cool wait say that again there's. a picture of two dogs mating our. neighbors dogs and my brother and i are. both hugging one of the dogs around the. neck we don't know that they're mating. oh okay i just think their buddies are. you know like yeah cause you said that i. was like best friends that that was. that's a that's a moment right there. yeah well they were [ __ ] you just. guys got in. great picture probably never never. happened yeah you might that might be. one of the only times two people hug two. animals while they were mating and got a. picture out of it yeah like that that's. one of those rare things you like to is. theo and his brother the only people who.

did that who made that happen yeah you. could google that right now would not be. there that's one of those things. you could google most things that. something would come up i guarantee you. if he googles right now. two brothers hugging two animals [ __ ]. two brothers hugging two animals [ __ ]. zero comes up yeah brothers hugging uh. mating animals man mating animals. i told you. i told you. what's the closest thing we got is there. anything right there what's that picture.

with the humans in it. nope no that's autism. damn. every time they sneak that autism hug in. there baby damn every time baby damn. i love if there's anything like. human hugging [ __ ]. human hugging sex animals it's always. autism. let's hit a couple news topics and then. we'll get giannis out of here you got to. make sure to catch his special mom love. i can only vouch for the first 34. minutes of it but man it was awesome.

dude thank you and thank you for saying. that thank you for having me i really i. appreciate it this is the way to like. get the word out and like you got a big. audience so i appreciate you having me. man yeah it's cool man i'm glad to get. to meet you and spend time with you. um. yeah i can't believe we haven't over the. years kind of but then once podcast has. started people don't see each other as. much in a weird way yeah. yeah yeah i guess so and there was. always kind of the west coast east coast. thing that kind of kept people apart i. guess you guys would come in and do on a.

and that's how you'd meet some east. coast oh that's true yeah and otherwise. like yeah that there was just that. separation podcast has kind of bridged. that gap a little bit that's a good. point well we started doing podcasts. because we saw how rich you guys were. getting. oh people were thinking that yeah oh. hell yeah yeah well the ones of us who. are [ __ ]. you know. have some smarts at least you're going. jesus christ not only are they. making money but they're having a blast. yeah they're having a good [ __ ] time. like why would we. go do six sets a night you know to go.

perform on some. late night show you know and when. nobody's watching well these guys are. having a great time yeah we were like. looking at a party we were like you know. like looking at that party going on and. we're like our party sucks but we didn't. want to admit that it sucks then finally. someone's got to go dude. just because it's our party we got to. stop thinking our party's great because. we want to depend defend our party. because you know it's like that thing. we're like i can make fun of my brother. but you can't yeah kind of thing like. even though i know he's stupid but i i. only i can say it you can't and then.

you're going like dude just like join. the party man they're having a blast. they're making comedy they're having fun. they're talking to each other laughing. yeah and making a new type of comedy. this is a new thing like stand-up was a. thing that came along during vaudeville. when there was no technology we could. film anything and now it's like this is. a new thing it's like a mixture of like. improv riffing stand up uh i don't know. what it is but it's not just radio it's. not just. uh like.

jokes it's like a it's a podcast it's a. new ethos. yeah and it's so i mean there's so many. now too it's like i mean a few years ago. there was literally even three years ago. and it i feel like it like doubles the. the amount of them doubles i wonder how. often. because it's crazy like people years ago. that were like i remember crystal he was. like i'm never doing a [ __ ] podcast i. remember amy schumer was like. poo poo. you know and then now everybody's done. one. or if they can do one they do one yeah.

you know yeah even people that's damn. rich i think biden does one they don't. even know he didn't even know if he does. one. crazy if you ask him he might say yes oh. dude. that freaking child predator yeah. um let's look at this right here oh did. you see this the man what is this about. this is the guy that attacked chappelle. says he was triggered yeah yeah what is. it.

yeah which is it also says an apparent. change of an apparent change of tune. um. that seems like. attorneys probably told him to say this. huh. yeah that's a good call yeah yeah that. gives him much more of a leg to stand on. i feel like yeah it's like hey this will. get some people behind you. i thought this was fake actually when i. first heard about this. oh leah is quoted as saying i identify. as bisexual i wanted him to know what he.

said was triggering. i wanted him to the next time he should. consider first running his material by. people it could affect could you imagine. no. the arrogance of that statement. well if this guy's buyer you know the. male side of him should have freaking. attacked him. attacked himself. well it's just i don't you can't you. can't. then you don't don't need to listen to. this man. go listen to a man or woman that you. didn't really enjoy i think right uh.

i thought they hired somebody to do this. i really really did i also like thought. that with the slap you know hollywood's. 911 the will smith and chris rockslap at. first i was like that's fake i think a. lot of people thought. because i guess a lot of people you know. we stayed [ __ ] now everything everyone's. got to make a spectacle. to uh online that's what it's become you. know yeah it's like uh because we. it gets views i mean the news even does. that right they just create a spectacle. with their headlines and they're.

fear-mongering and all that because it. gets views we're all competing to get. attention so inevitably you're like did. they stage that for attention there's. always a. question in your brain. yeah and they beat the guy up pretty. good. um. but i even if i'm if i'm somebody i. don't have anything going on you're like. hey i'll give you a half a mil 200 000. some guys are going to break a couple of. your bones can you handle it. if i'm already bisexual i'll probably. buy. joints or whatever sure i could probably. take a shoulder out of socket so you say.

even though you got beat it there is a. chance it could still be. it could still be fake oh i i i'm not. saying that it definitely isn't but i. would not have been shocked i think you. could find a guy for 200 grand yeah that. would take a take an ass weapon and go. potentially he's not going to go to jail. do you think he'll go to jail. that's i heard he's getting out but i. mean it happened in los angeles right i. feel like that's what happens in los. angeles criminals get out yeah get off. now so i mean uh especially if he says. he was triggered by jokes i feel like.

they'd go like oh we we must have had. the wrong guy. but then i guess if you're trans say if. you're trans and this guy isn't trans. well he doesn't say he says he's bi. but then this dude is like you're dang. he's like you're a. rudy rudiger kind of idiot. and you know what i'm saying like if. you're really on that side of the boat. he's like you're john brown he's uh i. don't know who john brown is john brown. was down from cleveland no john brown. was uh the dude who attacked the armory.

to protest slavery he was down for the. like he did the crazy like kind of. suicide mission oh he did he attacked. the armory and. yeah he was like down for the cause but. it's are people like heroizing this guy. are the gay and trans community hero. heroising him i don't know that's a good. question i don't know. i don't know how they. i think he just came out. saying this. so maybe they're maybe they're having. their meeting now to figure out. how to praise him.

maybe they're having their media meeting. to go like oh you know now we can. now we can like him i don't know what. they're doing oh yeah because he's. adding in also plus jokes earlier in the. night. made by an opener talking pedophilia. rocked lee as well he says he was. sexually abused as a minor. well that's one of the side effects of. being a damn minor these days i feel. like dude you got to get i mean you got. to get into a better industry if you. guys are underground somebody's going to. touch ass on the way up yeah i'm i'm.

disconcerting how much of that is going. on like how much. i love how the guy's arm is out of sock. and they still cuff him. oh my god. dude the lord already cuffed this dude. seems a little redundant yeah i mean his. arm is backwards. how did they even get his arm back. normal. i mean it looks like he's an action. figure and like you pop it out. a different way that's 200 000 man they.

spat on me and twisted me as if on. purpose. oh. yeah no they definitely they definitely. didn't do it on accident he said. no they. they didn't break your arm on accident. man. at least he's aware of that this is. interesting right here i told him my. mother and grandmother who fought for. his civil rights to be able to speak. would be upset at the things he said. this is a perfect example of what you. were talking about earlier where things. go kind of this full circle way where. it's like.

you you want. what were you saying earlier you said. it's like you want to get these freedoms. but at a certain point they kind of like. get too free yeah it gets itself there's. nowhere to go. like uh yeah you're like dude. you know. you you know how. do you know how contradictory what. you're saying. you're saying my grandparents fought for. this right like yeah that's why he's a. multi-millionaire comedian speaking. freely right who's black right exactly.

like that's the end of the right like. yeah that's at a certain point. that's you're doing you're doing what. the cops would do to him back then or. maybe sometimes now but you're doing. what like white america would have done. to him back then so what you're saying. makes no [ __ ] sense you're being the. bad person but he doesn't see that he. has an awareness of it yeah yeah he's. shutting down a black man doing comedy. getting paid millions of dollars having. being adorned by all these people who. have paid to see him you're stopping.

that because uh. you think you're doing it for civil. rights it's twisted logic well it's. interesting because it's like what's the. thing then is it the vet the fact that. you don't want him to like. if the money's not involved then. it kind of changes it what do you mean. well i guess like. man it's so hard to think and say stuff. um. like. you want him to be able to speak um i. don't know what i'm saying exactly what.

he was saying if the money's not. involved well it's like civil rights. like you want to you know freedom of. speech like you're granted he says my. grandmother fought for his freedom of. speech right right. so. now he has that freedom of speech right. but is it because he's making like why. did he do it what's his reasoning why he. did it. and what determines like is it what. determines if his speech is. free or not like at what point. is it the fact that he's making i don't.

know what i'm saying exactly well i mean. the ridiculous thing is he's making. jokes right so that's a weird it means. your society's in a weird place. when the jesters are being attacked. because right this is specifically a. place where he's making jokes he's. making jokes man i mean he says on the. sign it's like this is a comedy show. it's a comedy weekend i mean. even this guy knows that i mean dave. chappelle is a comedian. dave chappelle does not work at a auto. body shop yeah he's a comedian everyone.

knows who he is people aren't paying to. go watch him fix a car they're watching. him do jokes and so when comedians. are getting attacked you start going. like oh society may be getting a little. unhealthy because the kings. you know they would keep a gesture. around. to keep them honest to tell them the. truth with jokes that's what we do we. sugarcoat the truth a little bit so it's. like you know i just want to say like. hey maybe the gesture's right right. isn't that what we do we kind of put a. little candy over the truth like.

you know yeah if you don't want to hear. the gesture anymore then that's a little. bit strange then there's something. something strange. something's off the society's not. healthy and it's the black community. keeps attacking their own kind yeah. which is bizarre that is bizarre um. all right what else we got any other. good news story came in. sometimes it's nice to podcast because i. don't think a deal with the rest of my. life isn't that crazy even though it's a. great life it's like just have to make. choices and do things i think the same. reason why you listen to a podcast or.

watch a movie it's like sometimes it's. like. you just don't want to have to. i don't know i sound ungrateful no but i. know what you're saying is right now. you're in the moment you're not thinking. about yeah tough stuff yeah that's what. i'm saying yeah just not having to think. about tougher stuff you know my sister's. trying to buy a house i'm gonna help her. look at that it's like i'm gonna have to. make choices about. you know all cool stuff but it's like. it just feels like less responsibility. right now. well that's why the audience probably. connects with it so much because like. you said you're doing the same thing. they're doing. we're both taking a break yeah you're. taking a break the audience is taking a.

break and when it's over it's like oh. now i gotta go help my sister buy a. house gotta get back to [ __ ]. yeah. there's probably someone watching right. now who also is helping their sister buy. out yeah that's true. what do we have here. yeah here's an interesting one new york. high court to determine if bronx zoo. elephant is a person why not why not. 2022 why not. is it a person.

i mean what is going on. has it paid taxes that's what i want to. know. i mean how would they even mix those two. up how would they. if it was a person how did they get how. did it get to a point where an article. needed to be written that they were. going to investigate whether it was true. how do you mistake those two things. one's like 10 tons the other is like 300. pounds if it eats fast food. it's a big difference.

jesus christ says that uh. can she can the elephant be considered a. person a question was before new york's. highest court wednesday in a closely. watched case of whether a basic human. right can be extended to an animal oh so. it's more that okay it's more the rights. of the animal. they said it's in a one-acre prison. you know this goes back to like. black have you seen that movie black um. [Music]. black uh fish. it's about like black something happened.

to black fish even like whenever. whales or whatever. with the zoo and they put him in there. in san diego and people got upset about. it. um. but it's like. do you think if you see a. like. the animal's safer in this space but is. it getting. its true. existence. i think that's the question and it's. almost the same thing we've been talking. about with humans it's like we're safer. in this space for sure there's bumpers.

on everything there's insurance there's. lawyer there's you're as safe as you. could be you can buy braces through the. mail. a woman the other night had me sign her. little metal leg and it had like a. a little thing in it where it also sorts. coins on the side of it right like. we're living in a [ __ ] brook stone. right. but are we getting. the are we getting the most the most. natural experience that's almost what's.

happening here right right is are we not. fulfilled is it the most fulfilling. yeah it's exactly what's happening here. yeah the non-human rights project wants. to move from a one-acre prison at the. zoo to a more spacious sanctuary. because with all these things they're. like just set them free. yeah well this doesn't even sound like. they're returning them to their natural. habitat where they beat this just seems. like they're getting uh they're just. they're upgrading they're from a condo. to a mansion. to have more spacious you know. they'd still have that same safety or.

whatever yeah i'd say maybe the. more humane thing ironically would be to. put them back into the. being an elephant yeah is suited for. nature where it can look around you know. because elephants can intimidate lions. you know yeah and that probably makes. them feel good and now they don't have. that that's taken away you know. that must build an elephant self-esteem. when lions come around and be like you. know we're hungry we may take you down. yeah an elephant goes dude i'm 10 tons. you can try it.

but i may stomp one of you yeah it's. gonna be bad for somebody yeah. is something gonna come down and say hey. you guys are doing it wrong right go. back to uh. but here's the weird thing if we went. back. wouldn't we try to get back here to be. safer i don't know that's the thing and. who what or who would keep you in line. to. yeah like if someone came up like if we. had to survive against. predators that were trying to kill us.

like back in the day like hyenas. saber-toothed tigers and then there was. a dude who figured out a way to like. effectively keep them at bay who would. be would there be a. some sort of judge that came and be like. dude dude you can't advance that much. right we got to keep it like that but. then even having that judge is kind of. advanced. so it's a it's a you can't get out of. the quagmire it's a you can't escape it. we're always going to try to. find a smart way to outsmart these. predators and that makes us more human.

and softer because we use our brain. that's what we have. gorilla's got strength. right this is almost is this the best. case scenario where we are dude if we're. just left to deal with predators with. jiu-jitsu. i don't know how effective it would be. because that's essentially what we're. advocating for one more generation we'll. have some freaking gangsters out there. i think so probably yeah people are. we're they're getting some talent man. john jones could beat a lot of animals.

you think so yeah i think so for a. second yeah for for a little bit man. i think um. there's room i mean there's old stories. of dustin fourier beating you know 20. raccoons outside of a bar in uh in. lafayette he tried to get jumped by. raccoons bro it's a dangerous game down. there i'm just saying look there's a. there is. there's a lot of i think mythology out. there about humans fighting animals yeah. the greeks used to have a lot of it did. they yeah fighting animals. yeah because we tr i mean they try like.

or is this the best is this where we are. obviously this is where we are this is. we would probably just do this again i. know what you're saying you're basically. saying we overdid it where we took the. fun out of it we took like the game out. of it which makes you like think and. immerses you in the game of like. survival because now we can just nuke. predators that's too much uh it's not. fair it's not fair man i always like the. idea that people can do uh like if.

somebody wants to fight an animal with a. knife or something i think that's fair. you know i don't sometimes with the hunt. and stuff i'm not an anti-hunter at all. like. but i would love to see more. hand-to-hand combat with animals. that would be great that would be great. to see yeah it's a fair fight i feel. like we'd lose a lot though it's my only. problem hell yeah we would do this every. week there's a video some guy lose into. a goose at a damn local watering hole. yeah there's some guy's kid getting his.

one of his ears nipped off by a damn uh. gosling or whatever yeah i mean even if. the gazan cuts weight. it's still unfair. it's still [ __ ] it's got that animal. strength always got the advantage and. that's why i think like we'll always. invent a knife yeah in order to compete. or else we go extinct. like dude you know what the crazy [ __ ]. is we were not the apex predator for. most of our existence only the past. couple thousand years did we figure some. [ __ ] out but for like hundreds of. thousands of years. [ __ ].

we got eaten wow we didn't figure it out. until we teamed up with dogs. they they they they ran they did a lot. of the recon they did recon for us and. like yo bad shit's coming we hid. whatever we need and they fought off. lions for us and [ __ ] and then we were. able to they gave us some time to sit. around and think about it figure [ __ ]. out build a knife because you can't. figure out how to build a knife when. you're constantly being hunted yeah you. can't think it's not a moment to think. it's like having anxiety all the time. you can't. you know you can't do your best work. when you're anxious. so oh amen man.

amen dude i feel that yeah at a deep. level dude um janice thanks so much for. coming man thank you man cool bro i. really really appreciate it nice to meet. you on camera chat yeah nice it was a. fun ride yeah yeah it's been a lot of. fun and you can check out his special. mom love it's on youtube right now and. um he's got some amazing characters um. that you gotta watch on youtube as well. i know they're old and i mean you may. feel past those in some ways or whatever. i i but yeah man so crazy bro you gotta.

go watch uh. watch some more giannis papas if you're. not familiar with them and um. yeah man thank you so much for coming on. dude thank you i appreciate it yeah. now i'm just floating on the breeze and. i feel i'm falling like these leaves i. must be. cornerstone. oh but when i reach that ground i'll. share this piece of mind i found i can. feel it.

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