Timothée Chalamet | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #551

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willly Wonka a beautiful boy and now his. new movie a complete unknown where he. plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas. day you can check it out uh I had a. great time getting to know him um he's. an. enthralling dang human today's guest is. Timothy shalam. [Applause].

we were just in. Nashville let's start there we good Zach. yeah cool beans yeah yeah yeah I saw you. were just in Nashville yeah had you been. there before yeah once kind of exploring. I was doing a movie called Bones and all. I was trying to do research yeah it's my. producer favorite no way yeah I haven't. seen yep that guy Zach is his name and. he loves it yeah he really loves it no. way so I i' had wandered there um and uh. this time got a better sense of it but. it's a great City huh yeah it's a good. place it's like a little City it's like.

a little City kind of like a fancy. little city it's almost like the Jean. banet of cities kind like d you know. look at this outfit kind of you know um. but dangerous at the same but has like. kind of like an element of like mystery. kind of that's a kind of a weird example. no but you're not are you from there no. I'm from Louisiana but but Nashville. here's what it is it's safe it's nice. people are friendly um you can't cheat. on your wife there so it's not cuz the. city's too small too small okay you. couldn't take your wife or spouse or.

significant other um you couldn't even. yeah like and you couldn't take them to. dinner or something and not see somebody. that would know yeah one of you or them. so it's there's like 14 people yeah well. there's just there's enough people but. there's a it's a the house a little. gossipy uhhuh okay so there's a lot of. like it's not a really an adultery City. it's not a city that's adultery is not. like a trademark of the city probably is. it how is it different from New Orleans. New Orleans is a little bit more. dangerous I think you know and better. probably better food to be honest okay I.

think you have to have crime to have. good food that's kind of how I feel. that's that's I've never heard thato. really yeah that's interesting you ever. had um you ever had that uh that yakum. in New Orleans that yakum is it not. drugs is it okay cuz I've had I haven't. had I haven't had the edible version no. oh this thing yeah yeah yeah exactly oh. this Vietnamese food I don't think so I. was watching top five um like top five. New Orleans Street Foods yakum homie.

yeah yeah wow that's a deep cut right. there it is a very deep cut I thought it. came in a small baggie yeah I haven't. had this bro I have not had this but you. know New Orleans has one of the largest. uh Vietnamese populations really in the. country I did not know I've never been. in Nola I think so you haven't never oh. man a lot of stuff shoots there for some. reason I just haven't haven't been there. before um yeah mythical you know. Nashville reminded me of Austin a little. bit you know Sixth Street that promade a. little bit yeah yeah for sure sort of.

yeah but yeah yeah that Broadway that. area that area is really interesting. down there what else about Nashville. that I really like um you go to the. soccer games ever Nashville SC I haven't. been to that I go to watch lipsum. college they play soccer there what at. lipom college no way it's a college and. uh they have soccer and so I'll go watch. some of their games what's their student. body population it's a good question. pull it up lipom College let's see it's. one of those colleges that right next to. it has the high school also and then the. children's school or whatever so it's. like you can go there from K to senior.

year of college yeah you could go from. from like K to 40 4,800 students okay. but there their soccer team was ranked. um has been ranked in the top 25 the. past few years so you love like you're. di hard you know season ticket holder. you're there all the time no I'll text. my neighbor who as a coach like hey you. might have pop by might pop by and. you're and they're cool and he'll be on. the field like yeah sure pull up you get. like the mcah UT pass you can go. wherever you want um it's there's not a. lot of bleachers so it's pretty so. you're basically on.

I was amazed I was at that that UT. Georgia game MCC gets full he gets full. license he could do whatever he wants. cuz I already had a field pass I thought. I was pretty right you know high level. in some way he's like with the coach. he's he's calling play he's coaching. he's taping a guy up taping a guy up. he's like you're GNA be all right all. he's living the experience you know I. got a buddy who's on the nationville. soccer team his name is Alex mule oh. really pull him up let's give him some. shine cuz I need to go watch them you. think if I hit him up he would invite me. to a game absolutely and the the games.

are often sold out you know I grew up. with this guy um Alex mule yeah but he. was always um M mu L that's the bane of. his life man oh yeah people that can't. spell mule yeah this is amazing man I. wish this is like this is what AI is. going to be in 20 years just say it and. it pops up oh as we're talking the. computer follows yeah oh yeah oh yeah. have never thought about that have you. tried um do you use the V the vision. Oculus that kind of thing no no the the. well Oculus too I guess but the airpod. VIS what do you mean like blue BLX Vis.

Pro The Vision Pro Vision Pro what is it. the Apple helmet but tell me about mule. I just wanted yeah my bad so you played. ball with him growing up I played ball. with him growing up and he was just. gifted you know it's tough you know you. could play like it's like that last. dance Chicago Bulls documentary some of. those guys will be partying all night. and then they'll then they'll drop like. Dennis robman will drop 40 you know it's. like I could work my ass off and if you. don't have the gift of physical Talent. of athleticism you're cooked yeah you're. done dude yeah some people got that damn. you got a damn foot Moes art out there I. don't yeah yeah Alex mu is a foot mot.

really I got to go check him out man I. haven't been to see a game it's. unfortunate I did get to go see um. Vanderbilt which is the college that's. that's the SEC College that's actually. in Nashville that's what I visited yeah. I was at Vanderbilt yeah I saw a video. of you out there you know I never had. that American college experience you. know I went to Columbia for a second I. went to NYU so I'm jealous of that um. but vanderbild respect of vanderbild it. didn't feel like UT or it didn't feel. like it had a huge campus or a huge no. it's a smaller it's a smaller energy but.

we went to one game this year they. played Alabama and and they beat they. upset Alabama so that was huge it was. crazy because usually their football. program is not that good right it's not. yeah and they know that yeah we're not. tell a secret no no you know you got to. keep keeping their place but that was. the game they won and look they didn't. even it was like all these lawyers and. attorneys like tearing down the goalpost. they even had they had a um there we are. after the game we actually we uh is it a. big law program Carl Lee is their coach. and he's an awesome guy I mean he's a.

Class Act but we got to yeah you are dud. what are you doing on the field D what. are you doing on the field dude you. almost you almost ran that person over. hey bro that's amazing put on the helmet. girl that was a girl that should not. have been yeah yeah you almost you. almost ran her over yeah she shouldn't. be playing wide out at you know it's. just different um but no it's a uh. what's it like there it's a um oh after. the game so they had like Engineers like. how should we take this down and then. there's just drunk kids like just rip it. down and Then They carried it down.

Broadway which is like the street you. were talking about the goalpost cuz they. never had it happen those kids had never. broken a law in their life yeah they. even tried to valet park the goalpost at. like a restaurant yeah is it a fan is it. like an expensive fancy type school I. mean I don't think it's a lot of it's a. lot of kids that have never played. probably dice in an alley I would say. that so I would say it's you know. probably pretty decent you know man. that's pretty crazy huh but it's a it is. a really cool it's a cool program man I. feel like I could see three stadiums. from my hotel I feel like I could see. the vandero one Tennessee Titans one and. and uh Nissan Stadium shout out Nissan.

yeah is Nissan a big Tennessee car. manufacturer that's a good question I. don't think so it sounds uh Nissan it's. Japan Japanese it's Japanese huh huh um. dude thanks for coming in timy I. appreciate it man man thank you you know. um I uh not with the Shameless plug but. I got this movie a complete unknown. coming out Christmas Day yeah did you. actually see it fantastic man so I'm. excited that that we can actually talk. about it and I was uh very much in the.

time period of the movie the whole time. and trying to stay without being a dick. you know within the bounds of the. character but somebody in the hair. makeup trailer at the end of the day. they would play this podcast you know. which is how I discovered it and. particularly the uh the episodes with. the garbage man and sort like the real. life episodes the lunch lady the coroner. Wayne yeah Wayne the garbage man he's. doing good those were those were like. awesome episodes you know and sort of. like worldviews that I wouldn't get. otherwise you know and uh yeah and. you're from New York right I'm from New. York so garbage man he he totally.

recontextualized that for me bro he did. a great job cuz they used to have um. they used to have they used to hate them. you know yeah yeah cuz you think they're. taking their time oh yeah oh yeah and I. realized how tough that job is I he was. like throwing throwing dogs in the back. of the I mean that story is do you. remember that there's a lot of yeah a. lot of a lot of yeah missing yeah. formerly living things started to dis in. the back of the back of the well they. used to have incinerators in the. buildings that's what was crazy right. right so that the people would put their.

trash it would hit the incinerator and. then they would just have I mean this is. like six years seven years ago I think. but they would just have um soot in. barrels you know or in uh cans on the. side of the street and then they started. getting bags but he said yeah there's. been times where a lot of things have. shown up but thank you man for checking. it out yeah for just hearing it on. accident no hearing it on accident. loving it and um I'm so happy you saw. this movie and this is like um you know. I hope this isn't like a Shameless self. plug but no it's not at all man that. we're happy that you're here and it's. interesting appreciate it get to do a. biopic or biopic how they say I still.

don't know man biopic sounds like a. medical procedure yeah you know that. sounds like someone you know is. inspecting your lungs to see if you. played the role the right way I like. biopic biopic sounds fancier yeah biopic. does sound fancier I think that true. yeah biopic um was it like so let me. think about a question like that just so. people know this is about a four or five. year period in Bob Dylan's life this is. a per yeah four or five year period in. the early Bob Dylan's life and I'm sure. a lot of people listening to your. program are already fans of Bob Dillan.

but I'm sure a lot aren't CU to my. generation you know yeah people some. people don't know so don't know and he's. really one of the most fantastic. American artists of all time and has. influenced our culture in so many deep. ways and it's just you know I grew up on. on kidy and Hip Hop and that was really. my you know my my my passion and then. somewhere in my 20s because this movie I. was working on I became obsessed with. this this man Bob Dylan who's absolutely. I could just speak about him endlessly. and you.

know I would love if people saw this. movie and even if they got a passing. interest discover the world of Bob Dylan. I feel like we get to be a bridge or a. gateway to this to this guy and uh I. hope this isn't one of your episodes. where you got like someone you know like. one of the ones people skip because it's. like a a person pluging so you know what. I'm saying like a like a I don't want to. use that word celebrity but like you. know because my favorite episodes yours. are oh like a fancy like a fancier. person hypothetically fancier no I don't. mean it like that but just like I like. like I said I like the ones that we. don't have like a lot of celebrities on.

you what I'm saying yeah I never really. Ed that word but um no that's okay no no. I don't think so look man I think I feel. like this part of the job is that though. because when when I'm working I'm really. very much in it you know what I mean and. then here anyway yeah actors get kind of. a weird rap though because then they. also have to be celebrities in some way. yeah in some way and uh if you want to. if you want to get your movie out you. there's there's only a limit of. how pretentious and somewh you know priv. whatever you know I want I want this.

especially this movie I believe in this. movie and I believe in this man he's a. tremendous artist so I want to I want to. you know get it out there yeah no I. don't think that's man I think that like. you did the movie with the young man. with drug addiction with Steve Carell. son beautiful boy which was awesome man. I know you strug yeah I know you. struggle with that a little bit Yeah. Yeah man and so many people have and. it's like um so I don't think there's. any doubt in people's mind about your. ability to um. be a bridge between whether it be a sto.

you know a story or a person to uh a new. generation or to um uh new listeners or. or people kind of and I appreciate you. bringing that beautiful boy and I feel. like you're doing the exact same thing. not you just blow smoke up each other's. ass but I feel like when you oh we're a. couple of naughty Native Americans right. here come on come on yeah yeah yeah oh. yeah if you're not if you're listening. to this and not watching this we're. fully the bottom half of our bodies boof. and H it's getting spicy out here know.

what that means I don't either I don't. even know what that means but um no no. but uh but uh yeah CU I know you speak. on it too and you probably Empower. people you know that uh otherwise would. be um doing some naughty stuff yeah. people want to hear us people want to. see it people want to see like a a. little bit of a journey that they can. relate to or hear about it exactly um. what so about the character like so Bob. Dylan has like such a famous cuz yeah a. lot of younger generation might not know. about him you know and um a a lot of um.

he has such like. a um that's a good Bob D man was it yeah. that was good how did you do when you. first decided cuz I wish you had to. practice it in your room or something. like tell me about the first time that. was super gradual can't do it with. people that are fans cuz people that are. fans of Bob Dylan will go they I'll tell. you got it wrong that's the trouble with. playing someone so famous and beloved. everyone's got an opinion about him yeah. so you got to put the blinders on and. just kind of do it around people that um. you know look man I'm usually not that. prick actor who's like obliging his. friends or whatever to listen to the the.

character he working on but this is the. one time I did that oh I think you have. to do that cuz yeah you don't want to. get out there and do a bad job of it. exactly man this this would have been. Blasphemous I would have gotten killed I. mean I could still get killed yeah but. now it seems like you know get getting a. little bit of get a little bit of love. you know what I'm saying might littleit. that hey snipers down lay down snipers. yeah um but was there a moment where you. tried that where you actually tried it. yes very gradually um I I I had to. there's a great dialect coach named Tim.

monik you know you can work with people. that are like experts in this field and. they'll tell you how you how to go about. it he this man Tim monik invented. dialect coaching he came up with it Tim. monic let's bring him up Gand m m o n i. c h he's worked with lard DiCaprio he's. worked with everyone you know so he's a. famous um dialect Coach man I've never. looked him up before yeah Tim monic. there he is right there okay is that the. man yeah there there I am with him I got. in trouble anyway oh you did what. happened to you I got in trouble because. the strike had just hit and I was just. hanging out with him and and I didn't.

really get in trouble people uh people. thought I was people thought I was a. scab and I was working with him oh yeah. but um he's Crossing Lis lines or. whatever you're right dude you're right. you're right that's the only only Union. where you'd be crossing the pck line by. working on your tongue [ __ ] I'm but it. was a real thing dude a real thing scab. stop working on the accent how dare you. learn Spanish yeah exactly that's crazy. wow man next time I'll call you cuz.

actually when you put it like that it's. like what are you supposed to do you. know like and I wasn't work with him I. was hanging out you know we went to a. shitty uh super shitty um it's Bleak man. like the way Bob Dylan when he came up. there was like all these cafes in. downtown New York and the music and now. I went I was trying to find the folks. scene in modern day Manhattan it was. brutal oh I think in Manhattan probably. maybe like in the somewhere in the. village probably right yeah but it was. brutal I mean I went I went to Cafe W. where Bob Dylan came up and uh it's just. like Aerosmith covers. now so some guyo you're like oh man yeah.

this is not how it was it's just a it. has like a small air pastal in the back. kind of like exactly exactly yeah that's. kind of a bummer um did you have to meet. Bob to get into this I never got the. chance to meet him not yet at all oh. he's super reclusive yeah he's elusive. andus that reclusive yeah we I don't. know if I'll ever see the movie yeah. he's uh he did this uh X poost I've been. taught to say it's not tweet anymore I. guess [ __ ] expost but uh that he did. it like 3 days ago you know and um uh. that more than he he he uh there's a.

movie about me opening soon called a. complete unknown um Timothy shalam is. starring in the lead role Timmy's a. brilliant Timmy is a brilliant actor I. kind of respect it though nice honoring. your youth yeah Timmy's my 12-year-old. expression dude Timmy's a brilliant. actor some he's going to be a completely. believable as me or a younger me or some. other me the film's taken from Elijah. wals Dylan goes electric a book that. came out in 2015 it's a fantastic. retelling of events from the early 60s.

that led up to the Fiasco at Newport. after you seen the movie read the book. oh that's nice super sweet and then so. do you even talk to him on the phone or. anything yet no nothing I I never got. the chance to talk to him yeah I like. that you point out to Timmy I tried you. know when I was 1920 I was you know I. was evolving into Timothy shed shed some. letters shed ex shed some add some. letters add some letters from Timmy to. Timothy yeah I thought you were going. Tim sorry Tim would be you Timothy Yeah. Yeah Yeah Tim like from Timmy to Timothy. yeah 40s 50s couple x y then you go then.

you go Tim you know uh you know I'm like. you know like mowing my lawn all day. yeah hey Tim exactly missed the spot. miss the spot you know you're like yeah. there's a bird's nest there calm down. you know sort of a disgruntled. expression on my face watching my kids. sports games cuz they're not playing to. the level that I wish had a swim meat. too had a swim meat swim meat's the. worst because you can't even talk to the. person next to you cuz it echoes so much. in the room swi in my life even if you. whisper a little the people travel it.

travels oh you cannot gossip how many. swims you go to lipc college swim meets. I mean I don't go to I've been I've been. you got be careful dude yeah I do you're. right and it is and I definitely watch. from my car with binoculars so it's not. too creepy it's normal it's totally. normal You' been the fact you've been. doing it since your early 20s means that. you know yeah it's cool kind a. grandfather grandfather that guy's not a. pedophile he's a he's an artist he's an. artist and this show happened you know. this show sprouted in this period of you. doing that so how can you fault the. process the proof. yeah the guy how do you expect him not.

to rehearse his own life um but yeah um. yeah you can't that's the thing you just. can't gossip at a swim meat man what are. we talking about I don't know I've never. been to a swim meet you know that's a. very non you know like there's four. pools in New York City oh yeah you know. what I mean that's true we don't have. swim Meats but we have. um what do you guys have dice in the. alleys like you were saying before no. I'm kidding but uh you know I was think. about this the other day like my high. school they wouldn't let us out for. lunch would they let you out for lunch. or no oh yeah you could do whatever you. wanted at lunch they didn't let us out I.

like myin tone from when I into school. by the time I got out I looked sickly I. haven't reced oh it got very you got. kind of like yeah very um anemic yep. anemic I'm sure what else is it called. kind of Bo radly ask kind of exactly. exactly exactly you know yeah because. they should give you at least an hour in. the sun they give it to inmates yeah. yeah and just cuz I'm learning social. studies I don't get it I don't get it. exactly and then I'm being in the. basement doing just acting all day just. cuz I'm learning [ __ ] Vol I don't get. 40 minutes in the 40 minutes in the sun. nothing raisin got in the son oh hey I. don't hey that's a good compl was right.

there man Denzel Washington AC that I. will Wast I heard your big um play guy. really no oh thanks I was like God I. don't want that going. around hey man that would listen that's. the subversive no one would no one would. expect it that's that's very low key. dude um is there a theater in Nashville. yeah got to be there is a theater. program that's a good question I grew up. in Louisiana we didn't we had some. theater we just did like did you ever do. theater growing up yeah I did I did well. it was just called drama club or.

whatever and it was a lot of people who. was it was a lot of people I think that. were wanted to be actors and then a lot. of people that just were kind of like. The Outsiders yeah Outsiders I went to. the high school the opposite the drama. kids were the oh the cool kids yeah and. the and the basketball kids were like no. there's like four of them bro that's got. to be interesting a lot of people don't. get that opportunity no it skewed my. perception of the real world because. then I got to Columbia and I was like oh. [ __ ] the value system is totally. different you know but actually in a. serious way kind of motivated me to go. pursue my acting even harder but did you. ever think about acting or you're like. what's the exchange rate on this Hamlet.

scene I have no exactly exactly exactly. uh yeah I did just some stuff at school. but I would always mess it up like we. did like Sherlock Holmes or something. and I was like Watson or whatever his. buddy or whatever it's like his Sherlock. his man crush whatever and our our guy. was very like Progressive so he tried to. make it there to be like this small like. lover scene or or just like some. Ambiance between Sherlock and watts and. were you didn't go for it I don't know. if I went for it or not I was like go. out there man. you be you would have earned the respect.

of all your classmates or actually I. don't know where you're from maybe who. knows who knows could have gone either. way but um but yeah there was this. definitely kind of romantic where. they're looking for the clues and they. end up kind of finding each other that's. what the guy said and I was like this. seems like insane but um do it I I tried. my best but then I remember I got the. first night I got out there on stage I. took on this Latino accent for some. reason it's a strong Choice man it's all. nobody knew it was coming perfect and I. was like what's up homes you know and. then um so yeah that was just and that's. when I realized I it was tough for me to.

be in some Ensemble things I just wanted. to be by myself you know like that kind. of thing you found this I mean this for. right yeah would you do would you do a. movie uh uh if it came came your way um. if I've got to make it yeah myself I. think okay all right you you don't want. to be sloted into something I don't. think so I just am super protective. about myself for some reason which may. seem kind of weird I don't know for some. reason for some reason you had me on was. a bad. choice no a good choice dude um who so. in New York York when you were a kid. like who's your best friend best friend.

growing. up nobody always pursuing acting dude I. was born I was bred at Warner Brothers. Studios in a in a little embryo fluid um. it was just like that yeah no man you. know probably Brett Goldstein you know a. guy kid in your building or something no. he was a kid on the upper west side and. my older sister was friends with with. his older sister Brena and uh just I. think they still live there Greg and. Bess those are his parents and Brett you. know that was my whole friend group then. they all my whole friend group went to. this school called computer school and.

then I went to a school called Booker T. Washington so I lost my I lost my friend. group there but um and you have a. roommate now no you don't thank God man. that's like more than sorry no I mean. but [ __ ] that's more than anything. that's what jezel Nick says on on. Netflix he says you really made it when. you don't have a roommate anymore oh. yeah New York in life you know oh yeah. yeah well yeah I think in well. especially in New York because it's so. expensive in other places some people. get a roommate because they just get. maybe Lonesome or whatever do you do you. have a roommate I don't have a roommate.

you know I would like to get one or I'd. like to get a wife maybe this year where. where uh next year how do you go how 202. W that's what I'm call how do you go. about that I think getting out there and. meeting people do you have friends that. you trust um that you would trust like. set you up some but sometimes you're. shocked at who they'll set you up with. really like you're insulted I mean. you're just like well we must think you. think differ a me how so give me an. example uh just like no names but just. somebody put me all with like a you know.

just a um a woman that had like you know. any way I say this I lose here okay. right all right upet just people that. there was no how do you do this format. like you're never nervous that people. are going to watch that you're that. you're talking about yeah but I just. make sure that I just try and uh don't. say anything that would be really mean. about somebody so right there it could. have got weird right and you send you'll. send scary people after people you know. oh well I mean we send guys in suits. outside people's house make sure they. don't there's a podcast feere out there. that things you know get handled or.

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no you know because I I become such a. fan of his that um it's not like I feel. like I'm a blemish on the Legacy but I. no not at all that's not what I mean. people are going to think when they some. people are going to think you are but. they're going to that when they think of. him in the future your face will come. I'm just saying that even if I have like. you know a healthy amount of. self-respect it's never going to come. close to who he is so I like the idea. that I could be a bridge but like I had. a buddy that said um the Johnny Cash. movie Wen Phoenix who was the same. director walked the line he said you. know I actually like w keen's versions.

of Johnny Cash's songs better than. Johnny Cash's songs but I never wanted. that sincerely I don't want that to. happen here because and I wanted to. protect against it because Bob's got. this raw voice he's got this like iron. voice and uh I don't want I never wanted. these songs to be sort of like more. gentle than his songs you know and had. to fight against that because the the. recordings we made a lot of them were. super it's hard man he was playing on a. beat up guitar with shitty recorders he. had a bronchitis in his early 20s his. voice was all [ __ ] up. and uh and I didn't want it to be like.

watered down you know cuz he very. purposefully was he liked Jack kowak and. Mori arti he you know a lot of the books. I read so he didn't have great hygiene. you know stuff like that so I didn't. want the movie to be watered down all of. a sudden you know right you wanted to. honor him as much as you could yeah. exactly but also without being him as. much like you not do this Hollywood. version basically right this because. these biopics it's a fine line man it's. a and I've never done anything like this. I usually play role actually Wonka you. did kind of yeah Wonka I did yeah and. but that's maybe not real no but yeah. yeah thank god well don't tell the. children thank God thank God no but also.

I you know probably have to get. psychiatric help but um but uh no but. and there's a certain pressure with that. Wonka too people are like very. protective of characters they love you. know they don't want and there's sort of. like a cynicism about Hollywood you know. about like why are they keep revisiting. um the Wonka thing I felt was justified. because it's a new story we weren't. doing Charlie in the Chocolate Factory. we were doing sort of an origin and uh. by the way I don't know if you've seen. Wonka have you yeah which one have I. seen um yeah I've seen all of them you. watched it while you were in the are. spying on the on the on the lifts.

call you had it playing on the audio but. U if you first of all if you've never. seen the walk mie you just listen to the. audio that's a little bit that's already. weird too it's kind of yeah it's. interesting they had Stevie Wonder at. the movie last night oh really. interesting Bridge right there no but. same thing man I was like it is right. you're like just yeah yeah yeah no. disrespect but I was just like the. Godfather of surround sound basically. yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's. what I heard the premiere was uh pretty. interesting so last night was your. Premiere it was premere in LA man it was.

great you know um oh dude thanks for. coming the day after your Premiere that. Wasa I apologize man were you we were up. late and I basically I shot this movie. Marty Supreme all the fall these crazy. directors you or crazy director Josh saf. do you ever see uncut gems oh yeah so. good that director so it's kind of that. energy that chaotic thing so it wasn't. like a low energy shoot this was like 16. hour days for three months then I went. right into this so I haven't been like. drinking at all never not that I ever. really had a problem with it but just. you know because these days and I. actually find my mind is so much sharper.

I've amazed I haven't gotten sick. through this whole like last couple. months but last night I did have a. couple drinks kind of fried today man. yeah I'm sorry my voice is a little no. you got to celebrate did you have to get. up and make a speech what's it like at. something like that I oh man great. question it's like oh here we are right. here oh man I don't do I don't do the um. I call it instant Nostalgia you know oh. seeing these pictures like this yeah. yeah I mean it's kind of bizarre isn't. it yeah it's kind of bizarre man. this is good because this is I'll say.

this it's a great cast and a great uh a. great uh director so we all have fun. Edward Norton man Edward Norton should. come on this podcast man he's a legend. absolute Legend oh yeah he's a super. legend he was in the um he was in heever. see rounders yeah you play do you play. Texas Hold him yeah I play it sometimes. um he's good and the both of the. actresses were great the ladies in it oh. and his wife was in it what's her name. uh Erico ero Erico yeah yeah they got a. a beautiful group of ladies in there and.

men too yeah look at Boyd H Brook man. with the blue suit on oh that's a. handsome man is he real handsome yeah. he's a he's a stud well dude you're kind. of a handsome dude like a lot of dud you. are man look at that people I've seen. calm down brother I've seen so many. people ape your haircut really yeah oh. these are yeah there's a lot of freaking. thieves out there how long have you had. it this haircut I've had for probably. it's a little dicey today I've had it. for probably well I had it as a child oh. no way this goes back oh yeah and then I. tried to like blend in like whenever I.

moved to Hollywood and stuff and it. didn't work for me and so then I tried. to blend out oh so you started in La. before Nashville yeah yeah I lived out. here for 12 years I was doing standup. comedy here this is where I started. doing standup comedy oh yeah where the. comedy store and stuff like that yeah. yeah yeah Comedy Store it was awesome. man I really enjoyed it and a whole like. sort of generation of comedians came out. there of there then huh yeah and that. was like um yeah all types they had like. uh Chris deia Tom seura is that a bigger. uh bigger comedy base here than New York. you think that's a good question you. know what's so funny they're totally.

different from each other and some. people in one don't even know the people. in the other because the audience is. different you think just just it's just. a total different group of people like. you go there and it's almost like it. feels like you have to start all over. it's it's just a total different like. you I'll go into a club there and it. feels like a whole different thing I'm. walking into a club for the first time. in New York you don't think you get the. love you get out here I think you you'll. get the you'll get a lot of respect but. you just feel that way it's not your. territory you know so it's and you want. to give respect to the guys that that's. their ground that they walk on every. dayes interesting interesting cuz that's.

where they live like if somebody came. out and was like being real flashy but. they're not in your thing in in in your. kind of Club here it would be the same. way I think interesting so there's a lot. of code of conduct like that would you. ever do Saturday Night. Live I don't know man you know it's so. funny I went and saw it recently and. it's crazy right it's a crazy setup it. is crazy you did it yeah I've done it. twice it's super dialed in right I. should have known that oh yeah dude I. went with Chris Farley's brother it was. the first time that he been back to go. brother.

hey that like for him he was he dude he. told so many great stories I wish they'd. have put him out on stage I was like. have him go out there right tell his. stories it was just classic man but I. went to watch Bill bur I'm a big Bill. bur fan so I went to watch him did you. see the last Sandler special on Netflix. McGee performed that night too sick that. was dop wow yeah and then um he he he. there we are right there with Chris. Farley's brother right there I thought. that was. micke dude you look like you're 23 man. dud it's true did take your haircut or.

HGH dude no no I got to get some HGH do. you work out yeah I do work out dude. yeah I do God yeah I went today I mean. that's what I mean um but once works out. [Laughter]. once um what else do I want to know. about this film so you didn't hear. anything from Bob what about like his. wife or his kid or something no his kids. uh you know almost towards the start the. Monica who plays Joan bayz in the movie.

she was in touch with Joan the whole. time and I thought about reaching out to. his kids but the thing is when somebody. gets revered like Bob at some point he. becomes this Legend you. know people can sanitize the past you. know what do you mean by that when you. say that they could present the best. version of someone you know uh and not. present their flaws you know even a lot. of the documentaries about Bob they just. paint him as a genius there's one. documentary called Don't Look Back this. ta da pennybaker one where you actually. see him raw it just captures his. behavior and it was sort of right before. he got too famous where he turned his.

back you know on letting himself be. filmed and so that was like the biggest. help for me cuz and I thought about. talking to his kids or as grandkids but. um actually was at the University of. Minnesota like three days ago we're. doing a doing a sort of a screening for. the students there and then someone said. this is Milo Dylan this is his Grand. nephew and he looked like kind of looked. like Bob and he he said can we get a. picture and then he put his finger on he. said you. FaZe and then I said what like the like. the video game he said no never mind. H so the new Dy so even all the dyons.

are unique yeah I don't know what that. means you fa I Faz with the finger like. that I don't know I mean I know FaZe. Banks I don't know a lot of the FaZe. guys I know the one of them gave CPR to. sketch one night or something when he. wasn't doing good whoa um but anyway. shouldn't have said that out loud who. sketch I don't know who sketch what's up. brother that guy did you see him no oh. my gosh wow it's crazy how different. worlds are so different.

dude sketch him no oh my God no oh oh. yes I have I have I have yeah yeah up. brother yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's. been on this oh yeah he's been on this. he's a great he is so creative he has. one of the most creative minds I've been. around y just like to he has his own. pentameter of making jokes and stuff. it's pretty fasc is he stand up nope. he's not a standup I think there's this. new thing that goes on now where as if. somebody's it's interesting what's going. going happen with standup cuz standup. was this been this thing that people. always go practice and then they go do.

but now a lot of people build so much. traction from social media yeah they pop. off like that right so then how do you. but then how do you take that and. perform it is there a performance. element a whole different thing yeah. some people on their podcasts are Grand. than the standup is different right yeah. it's different do you feel like standups. in a golden area I feel like it's like. boxing I feel like now I feel like. Netflix kind of made it you know sexy. again in some way yeah I think well the. news got like very um all the same I. feel like and it got very I what a lot.

of people believe maybe um command. deared by advertising in a way right. right right right some of that happens. it's capitalism so I think podcasting. was just this like became this open. format yes yeah yeah yeah where it was. like okay also you know that you're. really resonating in some way yeah right. because it's not dollars that or it's. not like well especially in the. beginning for the first like four or. five years you're not really making any. money so it's like um you're just doing. your best you're just keeping it and. then at a certain point like people say. well if you're not going to let me say. what I want then get your advertising.

off of my network yeah but that's a. that's a risk man yeah a risk dollars. wise right oh it's a RIS dollars wise. yeah I mean Dana White was on here one. time and one of our episodes got pulled. down because of um we had uh Bobby. Kennedy on this political friend a buddy. of mine but um who also ended up going. into politics but they didn't want to be. associated with it or whatever and uh. anyway Dana was on and he said what what. who called and said they and we were. like it was this um Kelloggs it was. biking company or something no it was.

like proton or whatever it's called Pon. Pelon Pon interesting and next thing you. know people all across the country were. throwing pelons into the Boston River. yeah well they give you heart attacks. too do they really oh well that's not. going to help them no no based on that. sex in the city um you know Mr Bigs. that's how he died you see that he died. on the pelaton in the episode he he dies. in the episode and then their their. stock crashed cuz people thought it was. killing it's like and they obviously had. to sign off on that I guess that wasn't. a good idea that's a real thing right Mr. Big uh I think can we see we're pulling. it up.

anyway oh there he is oh yeah that's. what happens when you he married. Samantha. huh I don't know about this child yeah. um what else was I going to think about. oh when you think about so I just want. to make sure that we get a lot about. this film and what I thought that was. yeah what did you like about and you. don't have to you don't have to you. don't have to like the movie but were. you did you know anything about Bob. Dylan before or no nope I have well yeah. I know some of his music you know I know. he your mom listen to it oh yeah my mom. listen to it my bet this kid I grew up.

with he would play it in his room every. night he had the harmonica and. everything was a big my my um my friend. Tai who I used to live with uh who uh. yeah I mean Bob Dyan was the first. Mumble rapper I mean yeah yeah no man. absolutely yeah whining with a back beat. absolutely everybody's like you know. thinking that it was some of these other. guys like Uzi ver or maybe Kodak Black. but that who's just a mumbler I mean at. a certain point can we just say that. great yeah he was a mum I mean uh at. some point he enunciated better yeah but.

um definitely early on yeah it's got a. little rocky I feel like it's got rocky. which is cool man he might be going. through some stuff too who knows. sometimes it's so hard to know you know. what people are going he definitely. keeps it behind a he does screen we. don't know what's going on yeah I. probably said more in this interview. than he said his whole life it's. mythical. probably that'd be great if we had a. word like it's like word counter for you. and Kodak yeah you're like just miles. ahead of yeah yeah yeah yeah literally. dude you could sneeze and be like seven. words ahead of I feel like you said it. you said it um what about some other.

well I just want to think anything else. about the film that was was it hard to. learn the music did you did you have any. issues with that or how did you guys. make not really mean I had five years to. work on it so I took guitar lessons with. a great wait you had five years to work. on this wait because you auditioned for. it yeah over a long period time 20 well. 2018 we're supposed to do it summer of. 2020 then the pandemic hit then uh I. just kept working on it kept working on. I was supposed to do the summer of 2023. then the strike hit which is when I was. coach still getting in trouble for doing. my my uh you know getting rid of my lisp.

I'm just kidding and oh when you're. meeting with that guy and the dark alley. to freaking to work on the accent yeah. to work on your uh keeping your tongue. down when you say certain. vowels down with the pallet hey man you. know do you work you know I years ago I. went to you talk like this huh yeah your. your voice is actually super high when I. walked in here today Theo's voice was. super high. yeah he was I'm a Disney character guys.

dude and he kept doing this weird thing. he'd Rock back and. forth that's how he welcomed me. and he insisted that I jump on his back. and get brought in here and he put me on. the couch and then he then he assumed. the character we all know that is Theo. Von but I actually wanted even jump on. my front dude when people do front side. piggybacks that's kind of like I've. never heard of that in my life and. that's when I quit hey that's when I. quit playing tennis in junior high. school I'll tell you listen you got to. be strong enough to do that that's good. point probably I could probably do it to.

you I'm getting you out your comfort. zone man you canot do a front side piggy. back with me when we finish this when we. finish this you know I'm I'm jumping on. the front and anybody that can draw a. picture of Timothy and me and involved. in front side piggybacking let me know. um I'll buy it from you and we'll donate. $1,000 to a charity of your choice and. you know um can I Fu you after this like. a little John Cena thing. just for promo just for promo oh yeah. click click I'll do it on this okay all.

right at this and you land on that oh. man just lay somebody lay no I'm going. to be like that and and then I'll suplex. you on that right through there I yeah I. think we should get that yeah it's that. time of year man it's the holidays come. on it's the holidays you know this is. this is the holidays in America in. 2024 are you a big holidays guy you know. what I think I it does remind me a. little bit to slow down kind of you know. which is nice cuz life gets going pretty. pretty fast a lot of times do you think. you're more elfish or.

Santa oh it's a good question oh I wish. I could be a little more Santa you think. you're right I'm more sometimes a little. more misses CL like I'll start bitching. about a lot of [ __ ] about nothing yeah. about nothing I'll just get a lated but. I just got to slow down it's just been. like a a long year yeah you've been busy. what are you going to do for you to go. away or anything yeah I'm going to go to. Louisiana and see some family then I. might try to take a vacation for a few. days we'll see little Baton Rouge yeah. my family lives right down there so what. about you I'm to be here cuz I've been. all over the place I'm going to New York. tonight then I go to London and then uh.

do all this promo for the movie oh you. have to promo for this movie for how. long does promo take well it's coming. out on Christmas so I'm going every day. you know but I love the movie that's why. that's why you know that's why [ __ ] man. I'm trying to go as hard as possible and. uh and you know and then [ __ ] uh come. back here and be with my family be with. my new little niece oh you got a new. niece first one first one let's go dude. what's her name can you bring a picture. of her show a picture of it I don't even. think I think my sister's kept her. offline you know my sister lives in a um.

sort of like um she's with a group of. people in like a forest type thing in. France um no way where near an yeah near. near n yep and yeah yeah yeah in in a. forest no no in [ __ ] with you I'm sorry. bro I'm sorry I'm sorry no no she's dude. let's check in on your sister you know. let's email her a. meal let's give her a French French. coupon French Groupon no but she's. uh yeah yeah yeah yeah no Groupons in. France man no Groupons in France no.

Groupons in a high property tax they. have high property tax over there abely. beautiful property beautiful property. and they don't want people just coming. and you know not you know just Milling. around for 40 bucks a month property tax. I'm in that age now where I'll chat gbt. like what are the most attractive low. property tax places yeah in America. around the world oh yeah one of them was. my neighborhood growing up dude I. remember our property tax was $8 one. year my mom paid in cash dude right out. of her purse I was like where do we live. at wa who' she give it to huh the guy.

they came by was it a legit guy you. think he looked pretty legit he at his. all of his buttons on his head he had a. hoodie that said government he had a. couple of yeah she just gave eight bucks. oh man same thing man I grew up in like. a Mitchel Lama you know about Mitchel. Lama MIT oh yeah the the restaurant. stars or whatever no no no no no the. Mitchell Lama is like uh there's like. two ver to my understand there two. versions of like good arts hous in here. you got Section 8 that means you're. paying like under 800 bucks Mitchell. llama. yep oh that damn Mitchell llama brother. absolutely oh that's me baby moderate.

Mitchell llama program fries affordable. rental and Cooperative housing to. moderate and middle income families. you're just talking about Alphabet City. basically dude wow so how do you know. your you know New York man I like New. York I like I mean yeah it's definitely. fascinating you ever Liv there no I I. I've just stayed there for like maybe. three months of the most I would live. there if if I get a wife and she lives. there I'll stay I'll go live there. what's the ideal you know what do she. look like both inside. out um well she looks like probably.

looks like a nice lady I think let me. think about the rest of it probably. maybe played volleyball maybe didn't. maybe likes. to be a mom maybe I don't know dude. she's looking for to likes to laugh has. a good sense of humor okay because. people that laugh get jokes usually like. you can't yeah you know unless you're. just something's wrong with you and you. just laugh every now and then right. right so like could she do sumers Sals o.

I hope she can but I'm not trying to be. some kind of pervert or whatever you. know but I wouldn't mind seeing one. every now and then especially if it's. holidays or whatever and she wants to. you know pop off a damn bee handspring. or something for everybody cuts into. some Lis or whatever I'm down for it um. so yeah I think I'm open to a lot of. different things I think yeah you know. yeah and like handstands and [ __ ] I mean. okay I don't know what you're kind of. get here. blue Che baby it's that holiday season.

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brother yeah you got to set the you got. to set your life up yeah and and how are. you going to get divorced if you don't. get married you know what I'm saying. absolutely and those are two crucial. chapters of life is is is your is your. home you know wifeable not current oh is. there like [ __ ] everywhere when you walk. in no no my's organized I got my tree up. right now nice you got a tree M I got a. box of gifts there's a lady that I don't. even know who has sent me a or Christmas. ornament for the past four years sweet. it comes every year I put them up on the.

TR got a little mic and a camera in. there there's. yeah yeah she's just bro that's such a. good idea yeah she's just watching you. watch every Christmas it's called It's A. Murder movie it's a Mur yeah or it's. just some movie about it's about. somebody who used to love somebody and. they're watching their family now and. they send them this random box and. people put it on their tree they don't. know and has a camera in it have the. camera in it yeah write it baby I'm not. going to but we did that's it what do. you watch on Christmas m i watch what. would what would the camera see you. doing um well we're supposed to do.

Christmas caroling this year with a. couple fellas from the gym actually and. so we're supposed to practice on Friday. and we just hired a cool brother over. there in Nashville to help us learn some. of the lyrics you say brother dude and. then uh love you say that oh yeah we're. excited about it there's all Brothers. going so you got to respect the culture. man you know what I'm saying oh man or. uh but yeah and then what are we going. to go uh oh I watch Family Man you ever. seen that one no never seen family man. with Nicholas Cage cage it's a great.

movie one of the great have you ever met. him no man but uh match dick men is one. of my favorite movies ever yeah you know. you know Nicholas Cage man um what a. life but yeah I'd like to get a wife. maybe what about uh there's kind of a. love triangle in the movie yeah yeah. yeah there's a so the the women's Joan. bayz Joan bayz and Sylvia Russo is. Sylvia Russo was she an artist I. couldn't tell yeah she she's her real. name Su Rolo in real life but the real. Bob Dylan was still very protective over. she was never really famous so he that. was one of his big script notes he said.

change that name and uh you know just I. think he felt protective over her Legacy. in some way so he had some notes about. the script yeah exactly the love. triangle is is sort of uh one of the big. you know like we do these Q&A for the. movie now people will say was Bob was. his behavior towards the the people that. he was in relationship with in his life. you know was it's definitely complicated. but my answer is always he was he was. focus on his art first and foremost also. this movie is about people in their. early 20s so you don't really have life.

figured out especially in relationship. then [ __ ] stuff is a mess at that age so. he was kind of between the these these. two women in the movie and Joan bayz is. a a musician and artist ambitious the. way Bob would have been and Sil is. really the more grounded character I. think what elf Fanning does in the movie. is incredible you kind of see the movie. through her eyes because she's not she's. not one of these famous musicians she's. really just a real person and uh is you. know deeply affected yes she was very. affected by Dylan in the M or character. was that was interesting to see yeah and. the things that well she was she's the.

only person in the movie that doesn't. have a transactional relationship with. him really loves him for who he is and. uh um you know that was our Theory you. know I never talked about but I feel. like that's why I think he's still fond. to that relationship and private about. it cuz if maybe the rest of his life. could be confusing I don't want to speak. for him but confusing about like who's. being genuine with me and who's not she. was always the clear day one clear. candidate yeah wow that's interesting. yeah yeah yeah I found like um when I.

was watching it yeah you're kind of. rooting it's weird because who you're. rooting for changes almost from scene to. scene in the movie yeah you know yeah no. one's like a great uh besides elf. Fanning everyone comes off a little real. yeah yeah hopefully fla you know flawed. like in a human way flawed in a human. way in a little especially in your early. 20s man you're trying to figure out your. life oh dude they don't even yeah were. you a saint in your early 20s dude no I. was I I mean I was a Saints fan I'm a. New Orleans Saints fan but I was not uh.

I was not you're you're at the game like. [ __ ] I mean I had on maybe a you know. I might have had on a Drew Brees Jersey. Drew Brees Jersey on your 16th Miller. Light dude yeah that's for sure that was. um but no yeah it's like yeah how do you. even get start to get things figured out. um but that's one thing that I liked. about it I like seeing the different and. I like that there was like okay what's. this relationship like over here going. to happen what's this relationship like. over here going to happen.

was kind of likeed dude that he kind of. was maybe better than he thought he was. or or he was actually so great and they. tried to manipulate him it was just all. so confusing you know like and I think. it was confusing to him and it was like. exactly it was it was it was just a lot. going on and he seemed like a unique. person and probably like a secretly. sensitive guy and so for all those. things to happen you know so quick to. him and then for him to try to figure it. out and navigate what was real I don't.

know man exactly and that's something I. could relate to not not in the. relationships necessarily in my life but. you know you feel like your career gets. going I don't know how you feel about. that and you want to protect your energy. and and but you you still want to have. close you know friendships and. relationships and but at first it's very. it's a hard thing to navigate. particularly if you want to keep writing. you keep want like Bob Dylan you know. and like you said he was genuinely. greated he had a gift from God at that. point in his career he said it in Ed. Bradley interview in 2004 he's like I. feel like God was writing through me and.

he says in the interview I can't do it. anymore he almost says it like like he. misses it like he misses it yeah it's a. beautiful moment in this Ed Bradley. interview he just uh he says I can't do. it anymore I don't know how those words. were coming to me and wow and I feel. like musicians even more than actors I. feel like an actor like into your 30s. and 40s and 50s as your face ages you. can keep doing great work and the the. gravitas of your life lives on your face. you know what I mean right and so the. more you learn in life the more. abilities you're going to have Yeah the. more traum you go through whatever and I.

feel like as a musician you can still do. still do great [ __ ] but it's really like. a young man's game you know yeah cuz you. have to do all that touring and stuff as. well beats you up for you the movie kind. of Tours for you exactly you know I love. you know it's funny we do these q&as. which so I get the backstage experience. holy [ __ ] I'm coming out man like [ __ ]. they're going to say my name out loud. I'm all excited I come out and then as. opposed to a rockstar I [ __ ] sit in a. chair oh yeah and I watch this and then. I sit down and I try to give poised. answers and just make sure your posture. is okay the whole time dude it's. humiliating posture rocking in the house.

tonight that [ __ ] is so hard to deal. with dude I'll be backstage and it's you. hear the crowd like Timothy sh yeah and. then I [ __ ] take my seat yeah and. then I'm poised you're like let's go you. sit down and I sit down dude it's. humiliating it's like it's very anti uh. I don't know what the word is but. somebody else probably knows it but yeah. I don't know it but um yeah dude I you. know what though I think it was I do. think that it was interesting if you. frame it up like this is what it is it's.

a it's a it's a mo it's a few years in a. man's life that was a very interesting. man who's probably written so many songs. that some young people don't even know. that he wrote yeah exactly I was. listening I was like no way he wrote. that and like um just some relationships. that he had with other artists that you. may not even know about and sort of the. first guy for me in American pop culture. that said I'm going to do whatever the. [ __ ] I want and yeah and that was like. sort of Blasphemous like every artist. through the last 30 40 50 years that uh. a lot of whom you can't shout out cuz. they they've basic they've basically. burned so many bridges but um Bob Dylan.

was the first he just wouldn't take no. for an answer he just was fired up about. his art and I hope that perception no I. don't think it sounds like anything yeah. I hope it doesn't sound corny because he. really didn't give a [ __ ] and it's uh. that to me was really refreshing to work. on you know now we live in a time where. it's not only not only is it hard to be. rebellious about your art but it's as. much about the coliseum's reaction you. know you think about a clip you like. online or or something you like or don't. like the first thing you do is you go to. the com it's as much about how people. are reacting you know what I'm saying as. it is about the the actual thing um so.

in some it's harder now it's kind of. harder now because not only do you have. to manage what you present but you have. to manage also how what I don't know or. you got no no but yeah I was trying to. say and also to avoid that that's kind. of what I'm doing these days man I'm you. just got to like you have to bury your. head so far even like the pictures from. the premiere I'm just like you know I. just try to put the shutters on cuz it's. not healthy man you know oh looking at. all your stuff and looking at that you. it's weird no it's [ __ ] weird and. then you know you're not supposed to do. it no we're supposed to be you know like.

Gathering nuts and berries no that's not. like we know they had that first guy. narcissus or whatever looked in the. river and saw himself you know and then. he's like hey where the ladies at or. whatever you're like whoa dude what are. you talking what are you talking about. dude you're not even that good-looking. yeah kill a rabbit dude we yeah we our. tribe needs to eat dude make a salad bro. yeah we got yeah yeah we got people to. feed we have 17 people and our our Elder. is [ __ ] suffering like over here like. trying to start CL clarol or whatever. yeah exactly [ __ ] working on your you.

know um yeah it's like just a bunch of. Dior moisturizer talking about lip. filler to everybody like what are you. even talking about dude it's 300 BC what. does that even mean stop working on your. Ria profile and [ __ ] help us with the. fire we need to put out in the forest. you narcissistic prick yeah dude what. are you talking about no [ __ ] clue no. clue um what about other um um because. you can only do so many biopics too yeah. yeah that's kind of weird you kind of.

you burned a biopic I burned a biop is. biopic we don't know I don't know I. burned a biopic and I got to go back in. three months and they got to check if. it's still there and um no you're right. I can only do so many especially like. music ones I'll be honest what are some. other ones you think I have a couple. list man I oh ideas no wa you go first. okay like that I could do or you could. do I don't know if I keep talking people. like why' you say with Timmy and just. talk the whole time so we got to get you. to say something bro no I mean well I'm. trying to think one you could do um you. could do. um I know I could do maybe you could do.

a Brad Pit biopic you know what right. there come on put a little sprinkle on. it put a little sprinkle on it no maybe. if like uh maybe if Brad pick like was. stranded somewhere like you know maybe. like a. hitchhiker something no but you could um. you could do would you ever do Mau you. think little Mau oh my god dude that is. [ __ ] funny that's an alternate time. I'm him in an alternate timeline yeah. cuz you know I used to I used to well. you know there's two ways you could have. gone that's what we like to say a lot of. times yeah that's me and an alternate.

timeline I love him bro I don't know. enough about him I know he's from New. York though you're right you know it's a. great point I don't [ __ ] know if I. like him dud could be a dirt Ball but I. like uh I like some of his energy dude. some of his [ __ ] is pretty H it's very. Bob Dylan man just be who you want to be. that's a good point that's that's how I. do feel about him it's like oh I feel. like it's I feel like he's kind of. unique he he kind of reminds me of like. an Eminem like when Eminem kind of like. he he reminds me like how unique Eminem. was just unique in his time period just. did I maybe I'll do a little Mao by I. don't know what it's about I wonder what. the tragedy of his life is that's a good. point it could be some crypto failure.

yeah he launched Mau coin oh he's going. to be so fiss us dude man bro sorry no. dude no I don't know I don't know him I. mean he's clearly killing it yeah if he. wasn't killing it we weren't talk we. would be talking about him that's a good. point oh I think he's just he's he's. definitely super entertaining yeah and. I'm we're just joking around and he. started that um conf uh conservation. fund did he really for the for that uh. then I'm sorry you're good bro dude you. should be a politician dude you're good. ah was acting um but what or that or.

maybe Abraham Lincoln's son or whatever. that could be Abraham L me or you you. what about if LOL son who was Abraham. Lincoln's son Dave Lincoln a ridiculous. idea it was Dave Lincoln was it Dave. Lincoln is it really or Ricky Lincoln. bring it who is his. son Tad Lincoln oh my God yeah oh yeah. go to his information let's see him wow. that's dude you could be T. Lincoln the four son of Abraham Lincoln. what was his uh born with a cleft.

lipping pallet I'll work with we were. talking about earlier I work with Tim. monik on it you know and hopefully. there's no strike imagine his father. gave some of the greatest speeches and. here he is and he has this kind of like. a little bit of a um like a. disfigurement or some impairment and. he's like how do I overcome this to say. something as important that my father. said did he ever did he ever um we could. change it we could just give him a. speech they were considered notorious. Helens him Brother Willie he was sick a. lot he got um typhoid a lot of people. were getting sick back then yeah oh.

easily you caught a frisbee that was. dirty and you were down for two months. he went he went to see Aladdin in the. wonderful lamp oh wow on April 14th 1865. Tad went to Grover theater to play. Aladdin and the wonderful lamp while his. parents attended the performance of Tom. Taylor's play our American cousin at. Ford Theater that night his father was. assassinated wow so he was at that be uh. that could be my big scene yeah and you. finally run up to him as he's yeah and. you say something super important who's. playing Abraham Lincoln huh who's. playing Lincoln I don't know we got to.

get somebody good P's dead I can hardly. believe that I shall never see him this. is this is some heavy [ __ ] after the. assassination Mary Robert and Tad live. together in Chicago we died at 18 dude I. can't come on oh holy [ __ ] tuberculosis. this was a. was right here and congestive heart. failure you could do it man I think you. could do it age me down a little bit or. Jim Carrey I think I could see playing. at Jim Carrey one day too I was thinking. about that he's brilliant dude I mean he. so brilliant yeah he uh have you seen.

his um have you seen his uh he went to. some Fashion Event like 2018 2019 you. see this red carpet interview it's it's. the biggest not give a [ __ ] interview of. all time yeah if we have enough time we. should add 20 minutes to this anyway if. we can't this is this is the greatest he. looks so dropped into being himself yeah. yes I've covered a lot of fashion weeks. this is the first time I run in to Jim. Carrey wait room is it true you're. wandering the streets you need a date to. the party what's up no no no I'm I'm I'm. doing just fine uh I just uh you know.

there's no meaning to any of this so I I. wanted to find the most meaningless. thing that I could come to and join and. uh and uh and here I am they're cele you. got to admit it's completely meaningless. well they say they're celebrating icons. inside celebrating icons boy that is. just the absolute lowest aiming you know. possibility that we could come up with. it's like icons what do you do you. believe in icons I don't believe in. personalities I don't believe that you.

exist but there is a a wonderful. fragrance in the air you don't believe. certain icons even when she doesn't. exist he's still trying to flirt best. others Artistry you're one of them on. the Good. Foot he's like you're invisible but. let's smash. now yeah no I uh I I don't believe in. icons that's good I don't believe in. personality that would be interesting. guy to play cuz that's really cool. that's a cool scene to play if you could. do that crazy life yeah what his life.

was like yeah I mean he was the biggest. biggest biger bigger than anything right. in the 2000s oh okay yeah and he had a. show called In Living Color before that. that was like Jamie Fox was on it he was. the only white guy on it yeah right it. was him yeah and they had a um uh now. he's now he's become an artist yeah now. he's an artist but it's just interesting. to get all the art out of your system. you know cuz some artist I think that's. kind of what he I think that's what he. feels like I saw an interview with him. today Sonic the edog they said why'd you. do this he said for the money. H what a life cuz when Bruce Almighty.

was coming out I mean really he was like. the biggest uh oh yeah wow what about do. you feel like you have to be like. because you're kind of like the the the. the IT guy like the It younger guy in. Hollywood for sure for sure you know. does. that but does that feel like I don't. know and I know it's like do you how do. you and a lot of that is a lot of times. Curt by like the industry like you're. you have a you have like I thought you'd. come with like in a tank or something.

like you drove every here by yourself. yeah yeah so definitely um kind of I. guess maybe against what I was thinking. which doesn't mean anything um but do. you worry about how do you still be. yourself and find yourself at a time. when you could be so maneuvered by um so. many bigger listen man not to bring it. back to the movie but that's where Bob. Dyan so influential no because Bob. always followed his path and what's. interesting about the movie industry. instead of like as opposed to the music. industry the music industry you write. your own music you know and it's direct.

to the consumer in some sense like you. do whatever the [ __ ] you want and if. people are vibing with it you'll know. and whatever in the movie industry you. do kind of have to there you you got to. be reliable you know a musician you show. up whenever you want they could be. Rockstar to show up four hours late if. you're three hours late to a movie they. got to call insurance you cost a million. dollars now you'll never work again so. there's a part of the job that's. obedient in a sense but the best art and. the best [ __ ] we see. is stuff that you know is people showed. up for people showed up for but but also.

where they they broke rules in a sense. you know I was just talking oh yeah and. and and and so it's a fine line and I I. look at it like this this is my inner. Tom Cruz where I want movies to be seen. and I don't want to I don't want to live. an unob life but I also want at a time. where maybe Hollywood or movie Mak got a. perception of like um. sometimes being out a touch or something. or definitely like Awards type movies I.

want especially a movie about Bob Dylan. I want in all the movies I work on. that's why I did Dune that's why I did. Wonka and I'm proud that those movies I. know I'm not supposed to Pat myself on. the back but I'm those movies were big. you know like in the movie industry or. the movie business breaking mortar. theaters they don't they don't do the. business they once did some of that's. inevitable because of streaming but I. want to put my best foot forward you got. to you got to give back to the industry. that gave to you that's really my Mo and. that's why I'm that's why I'm here that. you know you know um otherwise that's.

why you can't be the reclusive figure. that Bob Dylan or Daniel de Lewis who. these guys were because the the the it's. not about the bottom line but the the. attention isn't guaranteed the way it. used to be you know what I mean I hope. this doesn't sound like too inside. baseball I want inside baseball I just. you know you're like a real thinker you. know so it's not like you're going to. give some answer that isn't traveling. through your thoughts and you explaining. stuff so that's perfect there's no wrong. way to answer it it's a weird thing it's. like. yeah and then also I had a full ass real. life before my career took off like in. the East Village in New York so um not.

that my life isn't real now but like. obviously on these press stores and. stuff the days are micromanaged in some. way but man you here's the thing that's. another thing I say like as a musician. or as a pop star whatever your music can. be about your erosion of humanity like. it could be about hey I'm driving this. car and uh this is the crazy lifestyle. of but if you're an actor if you if you. lose your sense of humanity if you lose. your stink for lack of a better word. people will see that on screen you do. see it on screen oh you see him too.

fancy you see him out of touch but. people are going to know that's why the. safy movie I just did man he put me he. put me through the ringer really oh yeah. I I felt like he was testing me early on. what does that mean so when somebody. like so a director can kind of put you. through some [ __ ] [ __ ] he yeah look. Josh knew me since I was 21 like safy I. was 21 uncut gems that's that's that. movie right that's one of the best. movies there you go man and good and. good time you know good time Robert. patson he directed too I haven't seen. that I'm saving Robert patson for after. for later yeah yeah yeah for sure for.

sure um but um you know like early on we. had stuff that could have been stunt. guys on this movie on on Marty Supreme. and I saw him wanting me to do it Part. of Me was like this feels like a test. you know and I wanted to show him and. then I now I feel like I've emerged from. the other side with no broken bones or. whatever thank God but and and Josh I. know I'm supposed be talking about the. Bob D movie but Josh okay it's all you. acting yeah Josh is the real deal man. like and seriously like Josh Safi he's. like the modern day Scorsese dang I want. to meet that guy oh dude you would love.

him yeah yeah yeah I would like to meet. him dud he could play Abraham Lincoln he. could play Abraham Lincoln can you play. Tad Lincoln I could play Tad Lincoln. tell him right now his brother's an. actor Benny you ever see um you saw the. Nathan Fielder show with Emma Stone on. Showtime no maybe that's his brother. I've seen Nathan Felder show yeah wow. that's cool yeah yeah wow that must have. been awesome man because he's a that guy. that that uncut Jims is so good I look. forward of seeing that yeah this is a. crazy crazy [ __ ] movie so directors. can do that so sometimes it's like that.

it's going to be a journey it's going to. be a journey yeah and what was the. biggest Journey Through the um through. the um unknown I just want to get the. name of it right a complete unknown. Christmas day through um what was yeah. leave it like that what was the biggest. journey through a complete unknown on. Christmas day yeah you know the biggest. Christmas. day just only on Christmas you can see. it comes out on Christmas day yeah yeah. um biggest Journey was the music and the. voice and also I've never had my phone. off the entire movie I had three month. pH off the whole movie yeah I had three.

months to play this guy and the rest of. my life and never get to play him again. so I just I was I was locked in. also you never supposed to say you're. competitive but I want you know there's. been a lot of music biopics yeah and I. wanted to do a great [ __ ] job man I. love Bob Dylan I love this artist none. of this is for granted this little. misconception about actors too and. acting you can have a cushy job on a TV. show if you give a [ __ ] about your work. it could be a great lifestyle right. you're making like high six figures. maybe low seven figures and you're just.

showing up when you want if you give a. [ __ ] about what you're doing these are. these are long ass days you know what I. mean these are 14-hour days six days a. week sometimes you know three months. look I know I know people got it way. harder but I want to feel that grit you. know I want to feel it you know I hope. people don't laugh at it I [ __ ]. really I feel like I'm the hardest. working man um anyway maybe I shouldn't. say that but uh but no you respect what. you do yeah cuz you got got to what else. is the point I talk about this to. friends a lot like this is too weird a. lifestyle to be not shalan about yeah.

why do this yeah if you're not going to. go as hard as possible yeah imag on. Marty Supreme I'm wearing. contacts CU he wanted my eyes to be. little so he gives me real glasses that. [ __ ] my eyes up and I'm wearing contacts. underneath to offset what the glasses. are doing and my vision was my vision. was basically [ __ ] up until a day ago. every time I took these glasses off my. my vision was dude wow you know um. you're like the Forest Gump of site or. whatever yeah yeah right sort of dude.

Forest Gump is uh we had the forest gum. pingpong coaches same lovely couple in. La Diego and we been married 40 years we. is a Chinese pingpong Champion nuh Yeah. Yeah from the 80s she pretty cool she. was she's like we would. train yeah wee way Lee there she is. there she is mar Supreme that's my. pingpong coach you know we train for. three hours and then she say let's play. for real and she's like she's probably. like 97 PBS she's like 5'1 and she's. just like yeah unbelievable you're not. getting a point across yeah yeah that's.

a little bit of that do you um yeah did. you have to so your phone was off for. that long so you just locked in and what. would you do just go to did you sleep on. set or what do you do what's that like I. didn't sleep on set and you know method. acting that gets like a bad rap people. think it's just like a person being a. prick and obliging everyone around them. to subscribe to a reality that's not. real the the thing I came up with I call. it oh dude that's just everybody's. stepdad as well you know exactly that's. method act I need a be yeah exactly and. yeah and uh yeah damn it give me that.

goddamn Miller Light but uh but uh I. call it I call it method energy because. um you know you you know uh you could. [ __ ] on me too if I'm coming off like a. dick but um you know um I just tried to. no cell phones nothing that reminds you. of the present um and wow try to treat. it like Bob Dylan as much as possible. especially you're playing somebody that. iconic that was tough too he didn't feel. like an icon when he was himself he was. just living his [ __ ] life so you talk. to too many people that uh you got to.

avoid earworms you know like somebody. putting something in your head that that. stays in there yeah that's why Edward. Norton I love him he's great pizza in. the movie but he's like Edward Norton is. a little bit his character in the movie. Birdman if you ever saw that he's like a. very confident opinionated actor so I. would kind of have to you know and then. he caught me watching rounders one day. oh yeah and then he then then it was. over then he knew he had me that's like. yeah if you're watching another movie. that. some oh you like rounders and I was like. all right now now we're going to talk oh.

hold me for a second huh that's a lot. yeah I'm still jumping on you at the end. of this get ready long as it's on the. front brother yeah get ready get ready. calm down man get ready get ready just. get a little to Hollywood for dud I'm. getting you out your comfort zone i'. I've been out of my comfort zone since I. was born all right fair fair fair I yeah. I never subscribed to it I never or I. never got the keys whatever you know the. code they give you an school to your. locker yeah you never got that I. remember going up to my comfort zone and. being like Oh I don't think this is. what's the most comfortable youve ever.

felt in your life oh that's a great. question the most comfortable like most. in your body no drugs no alcohol um. probably after like sauna and ice bath. type type of thing oh you do ice baths. yeah yeah I'll get in there dude I'll oh. yeah I'll freaking just I'll lay in a. polar bear's ass brother I like it I. like it like that oh yeah I like it just. brisk like that you know I love that. would you go to the Arctic oh yeah I. would go up there Mr Beast just went up. there he went to. Antarctica whoa I don't know what he but. he said it was nothing up there there's. not even like you can't be like hey.

let's go somewhere and like no you can't. I don't get how that stuff works man. where does he get where does he get the. money he's just he's just huge huh I. guess he just has a lot of just. Expendable income to be that guy you. know that's the other thing like where I. want to be humble about putting movies. out there people's attention are. elsewhere is elsewhere now you got like. yeah and you got to convince someone to. see a complete unknown on Christmas Day. and take the $15 or 20 whatever the [ __ ]. it is now and instead of watching uh you. know Mr Beast in the Arctic well Mr.

Beast has a show actually that comes out. right before that like a week before but. but um he was just weing the other day. and it's interesting yeah yeah and it's. an interesting show totally different. though but one thing that's great about. your movie is that first of all you just. get you also just in addition to. whatever's going on with the movie you. get to hear like great music right it's. like it's great music great great music. it's great music you get to remember. like um Woody gut three who played Woody. gut three in it McNary he's amazing he's. amazing a picture of McNary look at him. before something happens to him yeah and.

he and he doesn't have a line in the. movie he doesn't have a line because. he's because he's so sick because he's. so sick um that was pretty awesome yeah. we had Bernie Sanders on and he was. saying that um he said Pete Seager was. one of his uh favorite music sco McNary. could play Bernie Sanders in a biop pig. oh he could right yeah totally could. dude you could play Ronald Reagan son. Ricky Reagan or whatever is that a real. guy is that a real guy probably dude. Bernie Bernie has an age. n Bernie still looks the same he's the. best dude same the. last he's like a real folk hero it's a.

great Point yeah Bernie is is he is a. folk hero yeah he's folk music yeah and. you also forget about like what yeah I. mean that's another thing about the. movie you see the challenge of Bob dyl. like take on like music and culture. there's this whole other cultural thing. that's kind of happening in the. background like on the television and. the News during the movie it was a crazy. time it was like the it was the it was a. cool piece of life it was a cool piece. of Life the 60s were a cool time when. you get out of it all and it's done I. was beat on this one were you yeah I was. what does that really look like a break. do you go to like a beach and just no.

another thing another misconception. about movies like as opposed to the. Academic Year it kind of winds down. you're never winding down on a movie. you're doing 14 hour days and you go off. a cliff then it's done you know in other. words you don't you don't you don't. relax towards the towards the end like. it's you know we were doing a very. important scene and then it was done. forever you know and uh yeah I guess I. relaxed a little bit I went on vacation. but I was beat I've been work I was. working on this for 5 years this was. like um this was like this was as. important to me as you going to the. parking lot and spying on the on the on. the swim team of lip sco College nothing.

to see here yeah. exactly I'm just recruiting guys just. recruiting production assistants but um. but uh do you uh so it was would do you. think you would have done it more. Justice five years earlier no absolutely. not also because I had the experience in. my life where I would do interviews and. you know it's a scary time to come up. with the internet and stuff you know you. want to get it right and Bob Dylan his. early conferences he was confrontational. he was basically a dick and I thought. there was something really inspiring.

about that not not that I ever wanted to. be like that but I just thought it's so. different than how people are now yeah. were you were you uh right you're just. automatically cordial you just assume. like well you got to be man a a I am I'm. notal guy yeah but B um God forbid you. know you don't to be anyway so but he's. these early press conferences I you know. if uh if you're tremendously bored and. not watching Mr B stuff watch the the. the early Bob Dy San Francisco press. conferences you know and I just thought. so anyway 5 years working on it I got a. better sense on the other side of it oh.

this is why he would have carried. himself like that you know he had some. wherewithal I didn't have in his early. 20s where somebody said how do you do it. he goes basically didn't want to tell. anyone you know me maybe because uh. whatever the acting bone somebody say. how do you do it and you you you're so. desperate for that Pat on your back and. you go this is how I did it you know. yeah yeah yeah I just wonder yeah cuz. and you get more experience that you can. put into something like you were saying. earlier about acting like you can keep. doing it for a long time you know. exactly um yo can we hear any Bob is. that a weird thing to ask you dude is.

that lame like like live right now I'll. try it go for it all. right hold on let me try one. time hey who is there hold on I Gotta. Give it get into it man get into it hey. who's at the door that's not it that's. horrible that was pretty good you got. the nasality down you got the nasality. make up a word you're verifying things. and that's what Bob Dyan did EXA he just. made [ __ ] up that was good man he.

verified things didn't he I don't think. I'm trying to think who your music. biopic would be still it might have to. be um what about chat Baker I would do. chat Baker Chad Baker or um Chad Hanks. even D you should do that Chad Hanks. biopic dude that would be unbelievable. that's a that's a glitch in the system. yeah it's all everything is yeah. everything is a glitch dude John Joby it. could be anybody Chad has a new country. album that's going to come out this year. too I think or next dude you got to play. Chad also it' be a great excuse to get.

shredded now that would be I would just. do it for the head just do it for that. they'll set you up with the best. trainers you got the. HGH I could do it man um I'm trying to. think if if there's anything else that. we want to ask or anything else that you. wanted to say Timothy ah man no just. thanks for having me on I'm trying to. think um think we kind of covered a lot. of we covered it all man yeah I got to. water my plants dude I just got home. wait you have a place in La yeah I still. have oh you do is it here over in. Westwood in Westwood all right nice I. love Westwood and so yeah I get my didy. Reese and I forget yeah I go over there.

sometimes I go walk over there and. sometimes I would go for that and I. would just end up getting a bunch of. Vapes and just sitting over my car but. um I uh yeah I would get I just. sometimes I forget to wash my plant I. forget to water my plants you know and. then I get home and it's been like a. month or something your place is ready. to be WiFi man I know and I'll always. water them I'll be like your mother your. mother left us I'll yell [ __ ] like that. I'll be like your mother left to who to. the plants I'll just make I'll like. blame it on their like imaginary mother. or whatever I like she we would have. been fine but she left and I'm just.

pouring water on the punishment is the. water no the water is there I'm I'm. giving them the water but it would have. they'd have been watered every day if. their mother oh if their mother hadn't. left you're bringing out the resentment. on the plants she left us anyway this. who's the mother poison ivy it's just. it's just a fictional woman a fical. woman yeah I feel like the next time we. talk if you have me back on I feel like. you're GNA be a year and a half into a. beautiful marriage and a recent. father and.

um and you will. have you will have. um you'll have a Subaru. o but I'll take you know what if the. family comes with that and that's what. it takes I'll do it all right you know. I'll do that and um and I appreciate it. Timothy sh thanks for all the neat. acting man thanks for that thanks for. the movie about the draug about um the. young man struggling with drugs thanks. to the movie about Bob Dylan uh and just. thanks for sharing like what it takes. the commitment that it does take cuz I. do feel that from you I do feel that the.

commitment that it really takes if you. really want to take this opportunity and. make the most of it in your life you. know exactly like you're doing I see you. doing you know you know so um you just. got to go hard Amen brother um Christmas. Day the movie comes out you can go watch. it in the theaters with your family over. the holidays perfect perfect it'll be in. theaters on Christmas day um a complete. unknown super proud of this man um you. should be man congratulations brother. thanks let me talk about it bro. yep that was fun man man thank you man.

holy [ __ ] that wasn't as ground as sorry. yeah that's front. side the breeze and I feel I'm falling. like these leaves I must be. Cornerstone oh but when I reach that. ground I'll share this piece of my life. I can feel it in my. bones but it's going to take.