Tim Dillon | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #288

now today's guest is a host of the tim. dillon. show he's one of my favorites to follow. on social media at tim j dillon. on twitter he will re-configure. any stress it is caused to you by social. media. he can do it uh he is a comedian or a. comedian. and he is a man and he is here today. for the second time mr tim dillon.

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dude i love you man i wanted to start by. telling you this oh. i love you bro. [Music]. uh your tweets are some of the best. things that. [Music]. i even it's like literally i'll be just. lying on my sofa and my sofa is getting. bad like myself is starting to really. get that dent yeah it's gotten bad that. crevice i've never had that before yeah. i've had that. yeah well you're a fat guy whatever you. lay on for more than a few months is.

just destroyed. yeah it just becomes like it just. becomes you know i've had beds where. they just they just become problems. yeah i've slept on couches yeah it's. problems yeah wow yeah. and what are you is there a way to. refluff them is there a company you guys. use. no you just got to get super firm right. like the mat like. this is my mattress now it's like okay. super firm. cedar so that you get about a year. before you've destroyed it. and then uh and then you gotta get.

something new. but yeah i tried to tweet yesterday this. is the closest that i could get to. trying to like kind of imitate you. and it was when this is all over the. dollar will be worth nothing we'll be. using them as taco shells. salsa will be on the black market yeah. that's it's a little bit in your vehicle. you're in the. vicinity yeah of what i did yeah i mean. i started to realize i can't take it if. you get serious too serious in it. it's then you play into the whole like.

anarchy of it whereas if you're just. above it and. yeah and it's ridiculous that's amazing. i try to. like i i try to be funny but. every now and then i'm an impulsive. person yeah yeah. so yeah i just don't have a lot of. control. over what happens. so the problem is like i've gotten to. twitter wars with like the ceo of red. mango frozen yogurt. dan kim and i just i'll i'll be laying. there realizing i'm attacking.

the ceo of red mango for no reason. really yeah. um it's kind of like your call of duty. almost yeah. yeah it's kind of what it is i just i. just there are some times when i i'll. tweet something and i hit send. and a lot of times i go yeah i should. have done that. shouldn't have done that shouldn't have. said that but it's so great you're like. almost awol can we bring up tim's. twitter. uh yeah it's almost like you've just. gone so awol that it's like. inspiring it's like oh this is what it's. supposed to be yeah. a not real field that like news sources.

sight from. it's supposed to be erroneous well. that's the thing like tick-tock like. what's interesting about tick-tock which. i'm not on but like. what's interesting about it is it's just. like people dancing people being silly. there's money to be made but it's like. that even though it's kind of crazy. it makes a lot more sense to me than. like. the social media on facebook where. people have a 300 comment like they're. trying to make a point yeah. they're trying to say something they're. arguing with their uncle.

about something and i'm like no this. probably wasn't what it was meant to be. it's supposed to be like dumb i'm online. at chipotle. right somebody's dancing or crazy like. so it feels like maybe social media is. kind of. winding back to a place of absurdity. well i feel like you're. you're kind of leading it but i mean. that's what i feel like when i i'm like. oh. this is what i need to recognize is that. i. is that it's okay like you're like. leading it back to that place of.

ridiculousness i mean this is the. stupidest thing. have you seen this floating cinema in. los angeles. with socially distanced boats how much. work is it going to take to deal with it. imagine all the stoned morons crashing. boats. now to see a movie we're all like just. stay home yeah if that's the other. option i'll just stay home. i don't want to get in a boat to go. watch [ __ ] avengers. yeah this is the craziest thing i've. ever seen well someone would dre here's.

the thing someone would get out of their. boat to go pee. and drown like the first one yeah i mean. it's just we're going so crazy with this. where we're like inventing things that. there's no need yeah there's no need for. this. nobody needs to see a movie that badly. they go you know what let's just get in. the boat. yeah let's just go to a movie theater in. the ocean. with socially distanced boats i would. almost rather. get the disease and die and go to heaven. yeah or be reincarnated right like take.

that chance. be reincarnated and still not get in a. boat to see a movie yes you're like [ __ ]. yes. like yeah this yeah it's almost god it's. so [ __ ] ridiculous. man yeah i mean it's it's bananas i'm. definitely gonna have to go with my. girlfriend. now that's a good point see a lot of. guys and nick is a very susceptible man. yeah i'm gonna say that. i love nick he's got a lady hard worker. you know very inspiring story but. yes he's the kind of guy you know he's. very japanese like if there's a puddle.

he'll stab himself and. bleed out like so his woman can walk. over his back i respect that. he has that very korean style i just. imagine because chicks are going to want. to go to this. yeah and now with everything going on. every time i see a new idea like this i. go. how do rioters burn that down you know. what i mean. yeah like how exactly will that get. torched you know. yeah like every new idea i'm like how. easy is that to just. yeah light that up or what about when. the angry like what about if the gay. fleet from uh. um what's that disney world rider a lot.

of like uh um. that disney world ride pirates yeah what. about when they get. because it's a lot of young gay men and. women that work there yeah when they say. we're going to attack yeah we've had. enough of this where do they go yeah. they go to the. the the boat movie theater yeah they're. going to pull up in their boats they're. gonna pull up. yeah if if pirates of the caribbean. disgruntled people. attacked that that would be the only. reason i'd want that to exist. just so it could get invaded and. attacked by angry gay.

pirates of the caribbean because you. gotta you gotta be angry that that's. your gig. yeah yeah oh yeah you got it you can't. be thrilled about that. now what about i saw recently um. but yeah if you don't follow tin dylan. what is your what is your twitter tim j. dillon it is. it's the it's like this weird canal. through all of the [ __ ] that is. some moments it's so left some moments. it's so right yeah it's just. yeah god it is good man it's a little. ridiculous. yeah and but just you have to stick with.

it man because. you have to believe like i was just. talking to an agent just put up cat like. i just put up the photo of the cat. this is a cat that's not my cat but the. the running joke is that this cat is a. uh is a is a. is like a um a radical. and uh he constantly threatens like. nancy pelosi and he's constantly. impressed. like they constantly keep putting him in. jail and he keeps claiming that they're. jokes. so i just keep putting them up and then. like people will comment like some guy.

will be like what's with its teeth and. then. some personal comment under that like. why are you talking [ __ ] about a cat's. looks and i'm like we're off to the. races like already we're off to the. races. it's just a fun my mother's. schizophrenic and i imagine my twitter. is her brain. oh it's beautiful yeah that's kind of. what i imagine my twitter is is like my. mom yeah yeah and this is dubbed in this. cat this isn't a real cat no he's real. he's oscar. okay he lives in west hollywood he's my. friend's cat oh yeah i just go over and. i grab them and they photoshop.

these pictures yeah so they just. photoshop them into like. so like yeah it's just oh do the brad. pitt one that's a fun one. he's real he's a demon of a cat but. i love it yeah and he's so like he's. almost so you like he's there. he's disinterested but he's also willing. to. just like get wild in a moment's notice. yeah i mean that's kind of what he's. about. yeah but that's what i that's how i use. twitter is just like.

um to just kind of be sometimes i make a. good point but. most of the time i don't yeah and most. of the time it's just me being. ridiculous. but you're so without what i like i. guess is you you're fearless about it. yeah like something happened to me where. i got f i guess i don't know if i got. fearful or i just. i think sometimes i get too like i'm i'm. too real about stuff sometimes so it's. like. right i'm gonna just end up like just in. a bad space you know i'm gonna end up. fighting with jamily hill you know. yeah yeah right i look at it as like.

if if i said something and then jamelli. hill said something to me. you win i would tweet her the photo of. the cat. right like i would be like it's like oh. if you want to come into this world. right if you want to take this willy. wonka boat ride yeah through the. craziness. because i'm like this is not a good. place to have a conversation right. and anyone should know that everybody. should know that and everyone should. treat it accordingly. and just be ridiculous i get it.

people are trying to hustle make money. and whatever but i'm like if you get mad. at me i mean i put a. mega mccain wig on i dress up like a. chronicle i saw that crazy thing that. was good and it's like if you. get mad at that guy you're you're you're. at fault. yeah yeah what um what about the. hollywood sign getting taken down you. see can you pull that up do you mind. nick. did you see uh people talking about that. because obviously you know there's a lot. of been a lot of stuff people taking. down monuments you know. yeah yeah confederate flag people are. taking down you know i think the.

cleveland indians just announced today. they're going to change their name. um do you want me to look that up yeah. maybe both of you can i know you only. have two hands but uh. but i thought about so then part of me. like because i get a little bit angry. sometimes about like because confederate. flag i learned it from. dukes of hazard right right and that's. you like you have a whole different uh. understanding of it because you're a. southern guy. right i would just see it like now if. somebody rode by with a corr. like if somebody yelled the n word right. and was waving it right i'm like.

wrong yeah that's a bad guy but. but i just start to worry just when does. it end you know like when does it well. i think a lot of people think that. because a lot of people are like. at a certain point if you go through. history. oh yeah nobody's clean no nobody. nobody's clean so do you just. i mean every movie everything so do you. just get rid of everything do you. destroy everything and then you start. burning books and then you start. you're just heading that stage like i.

don't really care about confederate. monuments but it's like. then it's like well let's get rid of uh. you know washington. right lincoln let's get rid of mount. rushmore it's like where does it end. and the other question nobody asks what. do you replace that with. right what are we replacing it with. right because you're going to lose a lot. of branding like even like the. university george washington university. right. like they've been thinking like okay do. we have to change has been like. yeah they just change it to gw and. nobody it's enough they'll be like yeah. it's gw. it's like kfc when they were like not.

using chicken. yeah it's kfc you're like yeah but what. does that c stand for. they're like i don't know something. crunchy we don't know what it is. yeah it's just like i can't imagine. that anyone really cares cares that's. the thing that anybody. really cares because we grew up going. like we would go from mardi gras we. would go by the um. we would go by the everybody would meet. at the robert e lee statue in new. orleans right right. and everybody would meet there black. white right that's all we had we had a.

little bit of like. i guess maybe mexican or chinese like. kind of like one person might have been. a pacific islander. yeah something yeah gotcha like like i. grew up in a town we had a group called. wham whites against mexicans right. yeah and we didn't have any mexicans so. they would always is that a musical. group. no this is not okay this is more of like. get the torch. yeah yeah just like a budget antifa you. know like antifa but that had to be home. by 6 p.m for dinner. gotcha okay and then and it was only. three guys in it. right and um and then they like kind of. attacked a chinese like semi-chinese kid.

once like there was no. real follow-through you know but is it. because they couldn't find a mexican. yeah there was no let's just get let's. just get this guy he's. semi-changed totally yeah yeah oh my. brother it's the best we're gonna do we. just gotta. we gotta show people about it and. there's no mexicans around. but this guy looked half chinese yeah so. he's getting it yeah look. we drew it on our binders during lunch. this [ __ ] is real now yeah we gotta move. forward. yeah wow but yeah just start so then i. start to think okay well.

yeah you tear it down but then here's. what i start to worry about is. say in certain uh in certain cities and. whether they be southern really or. anywhere because some of it starts to. branch out now to like oh well thomas. jefferson had slaves and. this person dated a black woman who was. underage and just different things where. it just keeps escalating. and it's like when does like at a. certain point. um yeah like you're saying it's going to. hit everybody but then the people who. live in those places. right who associate with that history. and don't associate it with it racially.

right like and i know this is just a. white perspective but those people are. going to be like i don't want to live in. a place where. now the street that i'm on has been. changed like it's also like why are we. ignoring history why are we trying to. get rid of it. right why not just learn from it why not. appreciate it why not look at the statue. and go. yeah that guy did some [ __ ] like why. are statues only of good people. number one like the idea that every. statue it doesn't mean that i never look. at a statue and go that was a great guy.

that guy was great i bet he was great i. never have ever looked at his stature. and went. i should think like him yeah yeah i look. at his statue and go that guy did. something maybe good maybe very bad. he might have been very bad but it was. significant. that's what a statue is it's about. significance it's not about moral purity. right that was a guy was a role player. he like throw up a carmelo anthony. somewhere yeah you know what i'm saying. like. right he kind of he like people are 50. 50 on if he's really that helpful to a. team. right you know right right but i i've.

never looked at a statue. i don't know who we're infantilizing. people. yeah we're treating them like children. we're telling them oh if you walk by a. statue. you're going to automatically uh look at. that statue or that person in reverence. yeah that's not what does anyone care. you know they go let's take down the. christopher columbus statue in the. middle of columbus circle new york city. no one knows who that is right the kids. don't know who it is they don't give a. [ __ ] they don't give up they're on their. phone they don't even look at the statue.

so the idea that like columbus uh it's. about. you know columbus is reinforcing. imperialism and genocide. no one cares nobody knows who he is. well then it's like should you take down. like because there's you know a lot of. artwork and i'm. i don't know if there's monuments but of. like slave. probably like arriving in like. charleston like slave ships and stuff. that did. so then it's like well if you're a white. person you don't want to remember that. all the time. so it's like but you should have to look. at it you should have to be like man.

wow a lot of this town was built by. slave labor. right that to me makes sense like you. have those monuments. and you're like i can't forget this. history. right you know but if i i feel like if. you're going to apply apply it to. everything it's just like. you know because some people might think. man i didn't do this. right why do i have to be reminded of it. all the time yeah but. yeah because that's applying the same. psychology i feel like to the ones where. you're applying it to. you know like george washington or. robert e lee you know like yeah.

or just put on robert lee's thing this. guy got second place in the civil war. that's right this guy was [ __ ] up. yeah this guy is [ __ ] up and aren't we. all and aren't we all. um or yeah i think it's it the people. that really are advocating. that they take down everything are. people that just. want to completely remake or reimagine. america. yeah so they start with the iconography. of it and they start with like. the statues and everything and it's like. we can all agree that america has some.

deep deep flaws it should be corrected. but. i don't think anybody's or a lot of. people are not going to be on board. for the new version of america that a. lot of these people want. right nobody wants that where you don't. have any freedom. well nobody really wants that and i. think that's what. this kind of america that they envision. is an america where. everybody is constantly policing. themselves and their speech and your.

being. their surveillance uh of everything you. write. and say and it's just weird like you. want to rat on people and if. i remember when gronin started people. were like yo. go go call this number if these kids. don't have masks i'm like what. yeah i don't want to be a rat dude. there's a kid skateboarding i'm. supposed to call a number and be like. yeah i see a kid without a mess go get. him. yeah todd has it yeah yeah i don't want. to inform on people. i just that to me that whole world is.

not. i don't like that world i don't want to. live in that world i'd rather live in. the world. with some of the problems in this. orwellian. nightmarish world where like people are. like i can't say anything. i'm afraid to have an opinion i'm afraid. to meet somebody at this corner because. both of the people it's named after were. racist yeah it's just like what are we. doing. because then it's just people wandering. around yeah unable to meet at certain. intersections they don't know what it. means or the weird guy who will only. meet in front of the robert e lee statue.

he's like we're meeting in front of lee. you want to date me we meet in front of. lee. and that's it we always meet in front of. a confederate monument. yeah yeah it's weird man or just yeah or. maybe like you add. to them now i think that would be even a. better idea yeah. add to the monuments yeah you know yeah. how are you kicking them in the face yes. dude how are you telling me doing a. scissor kick right something sitting on. the front of the horse. why not it's funny i think it's like in.

the absence of real solutions people are. like hey let's just take the statue down. yeah you know it's like how about. stopping police shooting black people. yeah uh let's take the statue down let's. just. how about stopping uh some of the the. issues in hollywood people getting. abused or whatever. let's just take the sign down yeah let's. just take the sign down. that'll cure everything but see that's. where it's like that to me would really. make hollywood i think if you took the. sign down yeah. then hollywood's going to be like well. what do we have then right. what what was the movement to take the.

hollywood sign down i haven't heard. about that well. i'm sorry nick headed up a second ago. and i uh. wait a minute can you go back to indiana. governor wait a minute hold on go back. to the. indiana governor says all people over. the age of aids will face wait a minute. class this is great. what was that indiana governor says all. people over the age of eight. will face a face mask there are some. nine year olds that are gonna get thrown. into paddy wagons and that in indiana. oh what are you ten yeah get your mask. on. yeah i love kids learning about.

government at nine. you know being like oh i lose my. freedoms at nine. so different dude damn and are these. kids. and i just wonder if the masks. how are they gonna develop their. their world it's going to be. underdeveloped yeah i mean. we're heading under yeah developed. i mean we're heading to a scary place. i'm all for like yeah where the mask. keeps. people safe whatever but i just think.

there's something hilarious. about the the like this weird age of. like eight. yeah this like meaningless distance. that's when they know eight. yeah it's like if you're nine you better. have your [ __ ] together yeah. you better have your [ __ ] together at. nine it's almost like the eighteen huh. it's like the freaking age. yeah yeah you're gonna serve in a war uh. the hollywood sign it says right here. the hollywood sign. um has been through some stuff it said. on there. did you have an art was there something. i have there was one tweet it.

it that's it thirty three likes you the. blue checkmark. people that are on the right they're. going if you're gonna take down. jefferson washington we're gonna take. down a hollywood site so this is what. happens. it just becomes and that makes sure. i get it and that's when you start to. look because that's what i feel like. it's like. you have to that's smart ball to me. yeah if you are on the right or if you. are. it's like well what about the the you.

know the obvious. you know the the me too so what about. all the [ __ ] that goes on in hollywood. 100 percent. deviant place 100 it's awesome 100 yeah. but it's risque. yeah there's lots of long. established problems yeah power dynamic. issues here oh yeah um. but the whole thing is like i when jenny. slate uh apologized for doing the voice. of a mixed race character on big mouth. yeah i saw that i did this whole thing. on my podcast as a joke where i was like. it's not enough that she's stepping down.

because her apology is very creepy right. people i was like why why does she jenny. slate from everything i know about her. is probably not like a racist right. why is she coming out to like confess. she's like i've erased black people. i cannot believe and it was very weird. like she felt she had to come out and. give this. big explanation it was very weird so i. just said. you know to counter the insanity of that. i said that's not enough she should go. to jail yeah. she should be in jail you know i think. she should go to jail. i saw this every day jenny slate is not.

in jail i will speak out. yeah and that's the whole thing because. i said it's not enough so this. is what you kind of do when people go. woke you just. go further right you go you go wide. awoke. yeah yeah you go real yeah wide awake. you go to insomnia yeah you go put her. in jail. yeah put her in check not enough and who. are her parents where they live at where. are they let's share this we're burning. that house down. you raised a racist yeah get them let's. share their information. and what that's supposed to do is make.

people go oh yeah this is stupid. but as a matter of fact you get people. on twitter going i don't think she. should go to jail and then some people. go. maybe like a re-education. if you're like yeah maybe like some type. of re-education or something but not. jail next you know she has to take 40. hours of. driving from an african-american. instructor yeah what's great is like i'm. like oh you're almost there like you're. almost at my crazy example. right you're almost at let's put her in. jail yeah that's what you see when you. tweet something crazy.

and the responses are like yeah that. might make some sense you're like what. yeah i tweeted the other day and i said. i walked into a grocery store. and i uh they told me to wear a mask i. took it off uh i i didn't have a mask on. i faked a seizure. and then i ran around the store uh uh. called this uh screaming the storm is. coming. and a lot of people on twitter were like. good for you man i wish i could have. seen that. like dead serious like yeah you show. them i'm like yeah i was. i didn't do any of that right but people. are like yeah you show them. people are ready well people are looking.

also for. anything that's against the norm so. that's why another reason why i think a. lot of what you say really kind of. stands out like a lot of times because. it's like. also i think you're finding like a seam. of humor in this yeah where sometimes i. forget to like. just be light about like just like joke. around about stuff. well because like you watch these shows. now that are like you know ellen and. fallon they're all at their kitchen. tables. yeah like jimmy kimmel's in his living. room and you're like what's going on. it's weird and then they're interviewing.

people. and they're interviewing celebrities and. they're talking about movies coming out. and you're like this is so dystopian. yeah like it's so disconnected from the. reality. that i think people just want anybody. whether you're crazy or not yeah. to talk about something that's actually. going on right. the reality something that's actually. happening. um. do you think that uh would this be a. tough.

time you think like because you're. you're a gay man right yeah. so if you're a gay man would it be what. if i said no what if i denied it just. went back. dude she's like absolutely no i'll tell. you this we've been praying i sue. you i sue you i get lawyers i'm like. this is crazy. you know i go to jail i do have new. insurance. i do have new insurance i'd love to use. but is this uh. yeah we've been praying you'll yeah make. it back we're trying. yeah we're trying if hollywood offers me. enough money. i'll do it i'll get a wife i'll get a.

fake wife that's a better life. is to have like a fake wife because it's. kind of fun i know dudes who are mad we. all know dudes who are married to. oh yeah and you're like all right but. it's fun because you got a partner in. being a in deceptive. right like i think that's kind of fun. like you and the wife wake up every day. and you're like all right let's go. [ __ ] the world over again yeah let's go. convince the world this thing's real. yeah let's rock that kind of fun that is. that's kind of like mr mrs smith. yeah yeah you're like cia agents you. know and you just got to go out there. and like.

hey we got this pretend life let's go. and rock with it. oh yeah i got to be at uh libby's. kindergarten play. love you hun yeah love you come in for. the kiss. do you ever think that there do you ever. meet women that are. close on a like there's almost like a. because sometimes i almost wonder if at. a certain point that gay and straight. will almost be primitive. description might be yeah like i know. some of there's a lot of force stuff. and like you know and people like in. this place now where they don't know or.

they. you know and people are just i think sex. will be primitive i think people are on. so many ssris that can't even come and. i mean it can't get dicks hard i mean. just crazy you look at a lot of these. relationships you're like. there's no sex happening these people. just hold each other's hands they softly. cry. they tweet about racism uh they adopt a. dog together. uh but you it's a lot of sexual a lot of. these relationships are. you like a lot of this is probably just. people that have. massive anxiety laying next to each. other having multiple panic attacks.

and then someone's strong enough to go. make a cup of. like non-caffeinated tea but if you ever. yeah um during a. tough panic attack but it's almost not. to move yeah okay. it's not the move but no i think you're. right i think but i'm just wondering. if at some point do you think that we. will get. like like i guess there's two things so. one do you ever. meet a woman you're like oh she's almost. there's some b there's something in her. where it's like oh i could almost. date that woman yes because i'm just.

curious as to like the. so it's not as a hundred percent like. bla like there's a being inside of. people yeah there are women that i see. that i'm i i'm like maybe i could date. that woman oh that's interesting you. know whitney cummings is a. multi-millionaire i know maybe i could. date her oh yeah you know what i mean. that's there's something there how. do you think she'll ever take her like. just get to the point where she's gotta. she's like i'm taking my tits off this. is. too much you know and i'm i don't know. if she'll do the tits off. that's i think she likes her tits but oh.

i know she's like i see her evolving. into a suit. like i could see her she just went. shorter hair yeah i could see her. evolving into somewhat like an. androgynous. power suit where you see her and you're. just kind of afraid. you don't know what's going to happen i. could see her eventually being the. husband of. the doll of herself that she has yes. [Laughter]. you know what i'm saying whitney but you. had that yeah no i'm mad like her. marrying the dog yes. marrying the robot as the husband yeah. yeah it could happen.

and i can almost see then and that is. when she will sell her greatest show. ever which will be. a new i love lucy yes where she is. is is now kind of identifying as male. and she's. married her robot yeah and if you feel. something they go out into. what do you mean hollywood [ __ ] what is. everyone talking about. and to feel something they go out in her. yard and watch. a couple of her two million dollar. giraffes yeah. you know she will she'll have a safari. before that.

yeah i'm waiting for her to go full. surprise because she hated tiger king. she was mad at tiger king. it's like whitney enough but she's gonna. go full safari and then just be like. [ __ ] it. the animals are happier in captivity. yeah and that's. it i want to work at this so far yeah i. want to watch her walk around with a gun. and just like just putting the gun on. the tiger and then he just like. cowers and go man you've made a full 180. yeah from. animal rights advocate to just having. your own safari. she'll become carol baskin yeah she'll.

be like these examples. yeah basking right here yeah i mean this. is wild. you know she's got a ranch with with. animals i mean it's wild yeah it's wild. bro it's very yeah it's very white. africa that she's running. in a weird way she told me a story she. kept bringing back this cat. to this animal hospital and she's like. you gotta fix his cat they're like this. cat's trying to die. like he's trying to run away they run. away to die yeah you keep bringing them. in you're [ __ ] them up. right like this poor cat would just.

leave someone's house at west hollywood. trying to die. yeah she's driving home by the comedy. store she's picking him up scooping this. [ __ ] up. and bringing him to the animal hospital. they keep going let him die why are you. getting involved. he imagines poor catchers like i just. want to die and this crazy [ __ ] keeps. picking me up in her tesla. yeah and driving me to some hospital. haven't you read the cat's tweet. yeah she's bringing him in she's like. make a robot version of this cat. right now so that he can live forever. the animals was like what she's like. here's a hundred grand i want a robot.

cat. in an hour god she's hot though i will. say that. she's genesis that's. [Laughter]. she's an attractive woman. and this is why yeah and this is why i. need help whitney yeah. this is why i need help but i will say. this any time i talk to her she tries to. get me to adopt like a. very rare animal yeah like i don't think. i'm ready for like a. owl or like a shetland pony you know. what i'm saying she's like why don't you. adopt him yeah. wow i live in a one-bedroom apartment i.

don't think she's like you know what you. need you. need an owl she's like do you have a. stand-up shower you're not using. yeah yeah i love that she goes to war. with like the animal rights like the. those tiger king people on instagram all. the time yeah. like i'll look at one of their. instagrams there'll be some guy with a. tiger and there's like three comments. down as woody coming like. you know what this is doing to the. animal you know i'm like ah. she's very she's probably making a. statue of her put it up in kalamazoo. she's very she has that ulysses s. grant of animalia kind of yeah she.

really wants them to be saved yeah. here's the thing with animals i respect. them i've never given a [ __ ]. right like i've never been like that. deeply. well we used to watch them [ __ ] i. don't want them being tortured but buddy. of mine had a dog he'd take it at the. dog park and he would [ __ ] every dog. and we used to get high when we were. young and go over there and watch it oh. that's fun. do work that's fun yeah that's and then. it was easier to talk to women because. the your dogs. of course they're like oh this guy's. getting into it yeah like look at that. like if this dog can do that what can. this guy do yeah yeah.

then you roll up with the erectile. dysfunction which is my big get out of. jail free card. but uh that's why it's hard to meet to a. guy with e.d you know. yeah it's very tough that's tough yet. they're like theo do this i'm like oh. wow i would. love to have done yeah yeah yeah that's. uh not medically possible you have a. doctor. you have a doctor writing you a letter. like like a kid showing up to school. with a doctor's note. you're like yeah i've a doctor's note. that's not even possible. i couldn't have even done that yes sorry. i wish i could have.

yeah um but no i just thought that was. interesting yeah if there's like a time. where you can like sometimes even with. women you're like oh that woman i could. there's women out there that i go sure i. think there's certain people that are so. good-looking you're like why not. yeah you know what i mean i'm sure that. happens i'm sure that's. somewhat common is a straight man i. thought about this. is a straight man yeah like. is that the hottest chick that a gay guy. could get. i guess so yeah i mean it depends.

because to straight guys there's like. hot there's always like chicks you're. like oh i'm never. i think getting that chick the idea of. anything that's like. you know you're turning a straight guy. yeah people. peop that's like a fantasy that people. have but here's the thing. if you do that are they straight right. that's the other thing. like there's a lot of people out there. they're like yeah i [ __ ] your straight. guy it's like. yeah maybe not maybe not right maybe. they weren't being honest with you. yeah you [ __ ] a liar yeah yeah you.

[ __ ] someone who's. claiming to be straight but it's like. yeah i know like i've met guys and. they've been like yeah i've never been. on a date with a guy before i'm like. that's a lie yeah i'm not the guy that. brings you into homosexuality. yeah you've been here yeah i'm not the. gateway drug the guy yeah i'm not. like taylor lautner who's like you're. like let's give it a shot i'm like. you've been down the road a little bit. here. if you're going out with me you've been. down the road you've had some. experiences. you don't go straight to like math you.

know. you hung out in some college party. smoked a little weed then lost your job. and decided you know what i want to. taste glass in my lunch. uh yeah dude no there's there's yeah i'm. not the gateway drug. i'm not like the fun party drug yeah no. so i i think that the people. a lot yeah obviously if it's a legit. straight guy where you're like whoa this. guy's legit straight. i think a lot of people are fibbing. right especially in hollywood i think. they're. lying yeah yeah now do you think there's. also now we talk about drug-induced. homosexuality a lot on this podcast sure.

okay and do you believe in that um. that is a certain i believe in drug. induced drug addiction. right so i believe that you will do that. i believe that. you will do things to get drugs right. but do you think though that people will. get. [ __ ] up enough that at a certain point. like at 10 o'clock. everybody's having beers and nobody's. gay at. 1am when you know somebody has an eight. ball of coke in them. suddenly two guys are gay out of the. group and you're like oh this is.

it might be that or it might be two guys. love coke right like. i like in that tiger king thing those. guys weren't gay right. they they went with women right after. that. that was their right yeah he was their. supplier of drugs i see and then after. that they were like i want to [ __ ] women. so they engaged in gay activities to get. drugs. um i don't know i'm not a doctor is it. possible that if you're. doing drugs you start to be like it's. easier to be gay yeah. prop but it's easier to be anything. right when you're on drugs it's easier. to be anything.

yeah i used to drink i thought i had. money i didn't have any money. but i was drunk so i thought i was like. oh it's easier to be rich. i'm rich here's money dinner's on me. i was like it's so easy to be rich i. don't have any money then you show up. you go i don't actually have money but. when i'm drunk i. feel like i have money yeah so you act. like you have money. i say yeah so yeah so yeah drug-induced. anything could happen. anything could happen yeah yeah. especially the drugs that they have now. you know like it's like the argument.

it's like bath salts. it's like is it easier to fight a pit. bull. when you're on bath salts the answer is. yes. you know it's like would that but that. person probably wasn't. a complete stranger to that type of. behavior right that person's probably. choked a [ __ ] uh jack castle before. yeah that person's probably. dropped kicked a cat or something yeah. and they just got really into like. fighting pits. yeah so maybe for some people it's them. taking on a fear that they didn't know.

that they had that might be. it yeah do you think some people view. homosexuality as a fear. yeah sure i think anybody any time you. lose control of your image you're scared. so it when you say uh you're a gay. person when you say. you're a political like if somebody says. i'm a conservative or i'm a liberal or. i'm a socialist or i'm gay. or i'm uh a vegan all of a sudden you. lose control of your image. you lose all of your individuality. because that group is associated with. all kinds of things some of them are. great some of them aren't so the minute.

that people view you. as a member of a group ah scary and if. people lose their ability. to like manage their their own image and. then people like oh well you're gay are. you like this. are you gonna act like this or whatever. you you know so i think the fear. is the stigma that's attached to that. group okay so for a while there's a. stigma attached to homosexuality. and and i'm sure there still is in many. parts of the kind and everywhere. so the stigma people fear that.

do um are more met do you feel like you. get hit on by more mexican men or. probably on the apps i don't really. answer a lot of the app things but you. can see that though yeah i go like. there's i i do well with like mexicans i. don't go out. with max against that white delight i. bet they hit on yeah. and i'm not racist but i just don't ever. like i never oh really yeah no i just. you know whatever mexican man would be. easy to date kind of you know especially. because there's a language barrier. i've gone out with spanish guys i don't. know actually like like when you say.

mexican i think of like a like. some guy like a 5'4 just a guy in a. truck. okay a dude in a truck who doesn't speak. english no i know that's. that's a racist thing but i've never. been out with i think with an official. 100 mexican guy. right but i've gone out with guys that. were hispanic but a lot of guys hit on. me that are like. from other parts of the world wow yeah. white people don't are not into it. interesting interesting yeah i think i'm. the symbol of. i think a bigger white guy is a symbol. of prosperity.

two other races oh i could see that yeah. so i think i think. uh cause you come yeah they're used to. seeing you come to their country to like. get to date. to date and yeah for sex yeah they're. like oh this. is the guy who comes down for sex. tourism. let's just get him now let's just steal. his wallet now. this is the guy who shows up on the. train and looks around a little bit and. nods and yeah. and taps his cane on the ground i go to. the philippines for the food. so let's just rob him now let's just.

take his money now. and he doesn't have to buy the flight. dude that's crazy yeah you almost. you look like yeah like i look like a. guy who. looks like fdr's grandson look like a. guy that would go you know the the eli. roth the hostile that movie. i look like a guy who goes to bratislava. and who wants to just saw people in half. and then just goes back to his bank job. and just sit back on the golf course. just hitting balls. just like yeah i went away there's a. great little spot you can go and just. swap people's limbs off.

great tacos yeah good tacos a lot of fun. so i think those people see me and. they're like oh good you know. fat white guy may be prosperous yeah. yeah. that's totally wild yeah you seem like. the guy who made like the monopoly that. old guy like his son like kind of one of. his sons that wants. like a nice guy that didn't earn the. money but somehow i have it. yeah like i didn't earn it i didn't come. up with the thing yeah but like i'm. orville redenbacher's great grandson. and we just made lonnie redenbach lonnie. redenbacher i just made my living. popping corn.

and i just sit at the local bar and i'm. real free with my opinions. and i've never earned a dollar in my. life i've never earned an. honest dollar in my life and i'm just. living off popcorn money. from like four generations again oh man. yeah it's great. it's like being on your twitter dude. yeah that's so good that's what i that's. what i look like. yeah but again you can't control your. image right i just look racist. i look like uh you think so yeah i look. like a cop who shot a toddler. oh yeah you know but you look like the. cop they're like whoa how'd this guy get.

like this guy he'd get on the force yeah. how do you like if you've been on the. force for eight years it's like oh yeah. he's been on the force for eight years. but if he just got on the force how did. it even happen yeah. how did it even who did he bribe to get. here. listen up guess what we are in times of. disease. times of it's definitely it's that time. during corvid when you'll see somebody. pushing their family down a hill. or across a desert in a in a uh.

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free trial make things easier on. yourself. ship station make ship happen we've got. a question that came in right here for. you. hey tim how's the dieting going. oh that's the question okay it's a. struggle. it's a challenge you diet i go on and.

off it's a struggle and a challenge. because i saw you at a restaurant the. other day remember i saw you. yeah yeah yeah i shouldn't have said. that but no but that's okay i would that. was not a diet. day yeah i try it's hard because guys. like joe rogan have all this discipline. and it's just hard well jaco willing has. a book yeah he's he's got a lot of. discipline too. discipline equals freedom discipline. equals freedom yeah that's what nick. always says to me and i don't do it. but i get it i get it i but also. freedom equals freedom yeah yeah yeah.

hey jocko. counterpoint i know that somebody came. up with that title for you at your. publishing company. but counterpoint freedom is also freedom. yeah. what do you do you find sorry what's the. title i have a better argument than that. choco what's the toughest part of. dieting you think for you. not eating yeah. is it a certain time of day i mean. because at eight o'clock i get into this. thing like i deserve a treat. correct that's how i get there's here's. the real problem.

there's not too many things in the world. that make you happy right that's just. really what it is. there's not that many things in the. world that make you happy yeah guns. mysteries whatever it is what else. there's not a ton out there. so food is a thing that it just triggers. my response. it's like a drug and it's like my. parents when i was young they just set. me on that course of like oh you did. something good here's ice cream oh wow. you did something good we're going to go. to them and maybe just put it in your. hand or something or what would they do. yeah they would just put a scoop of ice. cream in my hand while i laid in bed.

and i would just eat it as i fell asleep. no. they would just take me to eat because. we didn't have that much money. and the only luxury was like let's get a. fun food let's go to pizza it wasn't. like let's take a vacation. right it wasn't like we're buying you a. car oh that's exciting let's go to a. nice dinner. food is the only luxury for people that. don't have a lot of money that's a good. point it's a reality. let's go get pizzas yeah let's go yeah. we couldn't go to like the big water. park let's go to the. yeah yeah let's go cook over by the. river it's cool. your family and i was like let's deep.

fry a dog or something you know but like. let's just get a good. let's grill something let's have a. little bit of swan yeah. i had a cousin that ended up working by. the damn golf course and so dude one. time he comes home with two [ __ ]. swans. were they good uh yeah that's not great. they weren't bad. interesting i was young though swan. isn't for a kid schwann's not for. everyone. no it's a majestic creature well it's an. adult something like eating a swan. it's an adult meat yeah it's an adult.

meat uh here's a guy obviously he's. looking to date. this guy looks like he's in trouble it. kind of looks like he didn't answer a. contact racing call. he's infected 38 people hey uh mr dillon. uh huge fan mr vaughn. long time long time listener watcher. first time caller and communicator. pardon my back mullet i don't have a top. mullet but i got a little back hair i'm. going to let that heat go. anyway i got a crazy question for mr. dylan what do you think about the.

assassin killing himself. that shot the judge's son this just lane. maxwell shit's getting a little trash. yeah it's real creepy yeah so let's get. into this. first let's just establish that epstein. you believe epstein was a pedophile. i'm just saying let's just establish. some great what are you working for. wait a minute hold on what. yes i will take a controversial stance. because i believe epstein is a pedophile.

okay you heard it here okay. and you think gees lane was his little. his uh. his his r his runner yeah i think that's. pretty well established i think miss. maxwell was involved in some alert and. inappropriate activities. but as trump would say i wish her well. yeah because that's the way rich people. talk. rich people every now and then rich. people just. become rich and they forget that they. have a job he forgot he was the. president yeah he was. at a golf tee on mar-a-lago in his mind. and he he said what he would have said.

to some ceo that was next to me yeah i. wish her well. because that's when you're like yeah my. son he got into it underage real big. problem because i wish him well i wish. him well yeah. just you know watch this drive it's so. different people don't understand also. yeah that rich mindset of it i don't get. it like it's just niceties and. politeness like gizlane got busted. having a couple of chocolates she. shouldn't have had you know yeah they're. just they're just like yeah i wish her. well hey man just. get out of my get out of my world. with your problems i'm rich i want to be.

rich jaslane is rich. so i wish her well if just lane wasn't. rich it would be like yeah. burner i don't care put her in a room. and light her up but. cause she's rich i don't want to see a. member of my own class. really bite the bullet so i wish her. well i hope she has to write a long. apology letter to the girls. and they put her back on a boat but yeah. this assassin was super weird. um the judge it was assigned to look. into the money laundering at deutsche. bank so a bunch of investors at george. bank were like hey why are you letting.

jeffrey epstein and all these people why. are you tolerating all these high-risk. clients right so a bunch of investors at. deutsche bank got mad at this and. deutsche bank should have just sent out. a letter when shut the [ __ ] up. right we do what we want we're criminals. dummy what do you think goes on here. we launder drug money and everything. else we got narco traffickers human. traffickers shut the [ __ ] up. you didn't care when you returned you. only care because it's the goddamn news. cliff they should like they should like. like hit him with a first name. first name you know listen vance you.

know what's going on. shut the [ __ ] up um so. but so there were some banks so there's. some investors i don't know all about it. so there's some investors. yeah and they were all working with the. same a lot of shady people working from. the same bank yeah deutsche bank okay. and they're. deutsche bank's like a lot of their. executives end up killing themselves in. malibu it's super suspect because. people malibu don't kill themselves. they're happy right like they killed. themselves right. so this idea that all these people in. malibu were like i just can't do another. day in the sun. i gotta kill myself deutsche bank is.

involved in some weird stuff. so deutsche bank and what is the deutsch. it's what. german okay yeah so they uh. are handling high-risk clients like. jeffrey epstein okay. and a bunch of investors like hey why. are you what are you doing here. why are you tolerating this level of. risk blah blah blah so they bring a. class action suit against twitch bank. a judge gets assigned that suit four. days later. her son and her husband a guy shows up. in a fedex suit her son and her husband. end up getting killed or. her husband's not dead he's critically. wounded her son is dead and then the guy.

who does this goes and kills himself. about an hour and a half later. now supposedly this guy this guy named. roy hollander was a men's rights. activist who had actually called an. opiate anthony and like argued with jim. norton. he's like a weird guy and he was the. fedex driver he was just yeah. dressed up in a fedex outfit who's fake. fedex fake fat actor was he interests a. regular vehicle. i imagine yeah oh my god so then he just. didn't give away. himself so what people are what i am a. little suspicious about is i'm like. is this guy actually the guy who did it.

is this guy. did he do it but did somebody like put. him up to it right because this. you know this is a crazy coincidence. that. this woman's child is now dead because. that is a crazy way to send a message. right like because you're telling all. the old judges like hey you might want. to gamble with your life we'll kill your. kids. right like we'll just kill everyone you. know like it is a crazy message. um and it makes you think about anytime. somebody kills themselves they can't be. asked any questions. i get real like wait a minute hold on. what happened.

so it's entirely possible that this was. some type of threat or. you know a way to intimidate or scare. people that are in the case i don't know. it's also possible that this guy's just. a crazy guy that killed the judge i. don't know but. it's worth looking into have has the. judge responded after the killing. has the judge spoken man suspected. i mean he's tragic 20 year old kid oh. it's heartbreaking. and he was just at home doing what it's. weird that guy's a men's rights activist. he killed two men.

i'm like that's makes me start thinking. like wait a minute what. that's odd but it's also interesting a. good place to go look for someone who. would do something like this. is someone who repeatedly calls into a. radio show but here's the thing the. people that want this done know that. right they know that of course they're. like this is where we find crazy people. they know where to get to fund people. yeah. this guy also 20 years ago worked for. crawl securities which is like an. intelligent corporate espionage. intelligence gathering.

uh major corporation he worked for a. year in russia. handling uh intelligence gathering for. kroll so it's just odd. very lee harvey oswald yeah it's a very. weird like background for the guy to. have you know. here's a guy right here who has an issue. and this guy. i have a few issues yeah what's going on. my name is miles. tim i saw you at the stress factory in. bridgeport connecticut. and you said that i look like i traffic. children because i was wearing a suit. so two questions one would you like to.

retract that statement. and two do you think glenn is going to. make it to trial. i don't yeah number one let me retract. that statement because now you look like. a dirtbag who can't afford anything. uh you should have kept the suit on well. he does have a frisbee collection behind. him yeah. now you look like you now you look like. you traffic pizzas to people's homes for. a living. so that's what you look like now you. look like you're trafficking for papa. john's. trafficking bread sticks to poor people. um uh it will glaine make it to trial i. mean.

i mean not if a lot of powerful people. have something to say about it. do you think i mean do you think a lot. of people. really were into this type of thing like. they would fly over there to have sex. i think enough yeah i think enough. people yeah i think it was a way to. blackmail people so powerful people go. over there they do this stuff you get. them on camera. you own them and control them forever. yeah so if you're an intelligence agency. or whatever even you know a billionaire. that wants to control. senators or congressmen or whatever. because you don't want the passing laws.

that [ __ ] with your money. it's just it's a foolproof way to be. like yeah oh you're gonna vote that way. how about this and then they go. yeah i guess you're right so in the end. do you think that epstein's biggest. problem was. or not obviously he had a lot of. problems but do you think that one of. the underlying issues of all of his. problems was. more like control it was like how do i. yes it was all about like manipulating. people you're absolutely right it was. how do we control people and epstein was. just. a facilitator for bigger forces that are. looking to control people. wow and that's part of what happens you.

know i mean i'm sure listen. there's reasons in hollywood that the. same actors get the same roles. all the time and a lot of them are very. talented but i think a lot of it is that. they have very powerful agents and. people that are able to like. get make things happen right how do you. make things happen you need leverage how. do you get leverage well leverage is. information yeah right it's information. that's. technically kind of what leverage is. it's like i know that's a prime. ingredient yeah. so i mean it's it's it's entirely.

possible that like this is just the way. things have been run for so long. and now it's coming to light because you. have the internet and you. have people back then victims couldn't. talk to each other. so one girl that had crazy experience. couldn't email another girl and go hey. did this happen to you. right yeah that's like the only positive. thing from it um. here's a young man right here that has a. question who may have been trafficked. sorry man i should have said tim dillon. theo bond you guys are two of my.

all-time favorites i love all your stuff. i check out your podcast. pretty much any chance i get uh i was. gonna ask. uh this can be for both of y'all with. all the craziness going. on uh in hollywood right now. would you guys consider getting a. stunning estate. in the stunning state of kentucky we'd. love to have you. ooh ky famous for his jelly honey ky. would. consider moving anyways you guys keep. rocking. is that an offer yeah i'll move in with.

you gang bro your folks feel about that. now this is a very handsome young man. does it make you feel a certain way when. you see this guy. i said i'll move in with him in kentucky. if he wants. that's what he's offering i imagine. that's what this is about uh he also. looks a little bit i want to say. like um kylie jenner here's what's great. about him. he's anonymous looking yeah he has this. weird like. you could just imagine him as kind of. anything david arquette's son. yeah like maybe he's a good-looking. pilot yeah but maybe he's. 10 other things so he's got this weird.

kind of like. there's nothing distinct about him he's. just a weird like. model type of like look but but kentucky. like a model for kentucky. oh increase kentucky most people have no. face yeah. in kentucky this guy is a damn i mean he. is a. look he's a nine male or female in. kentucky kentucky yeah. kentucky's uh he's a nine yeah uh would. i consider moving. hockey no the answer is the answer is no. when you're not going to get tired. you're going to go to kentucky. no no i'm going to go look past i'm.

going to go like yeah i'm going to. respectfully pass. uh but are you thinking of going. anywhere i am. i'm thinking of going i'm going to go. look in nashville i'm uh wow. i just got a plane ticket do you think. everybody's just leaving. you know i don't know man i my biggest. thing starts to be state taxes that's my. biggest. honestly it's money 100 you know nick. this chair squeaks. too um but. um yeah money starts to be the one of. the promises and then also what's.

what are you paying towards it's like. yeah if i'm paying taxes. like what is it going towards and then. if everything's shut down dude should i. get my taxes back. good point yeah i don't know i only. moved here but a year ago i've been. coming out here for. two years but i moved here about a year. ago and i'm like. i know i have friends leaving and going. other places but i don't know i feel. i feel kind of like ellie's gonna i. think we're all like thinking that this. is gonna be forever. ah and every decision we're making and. every thought in our mind. is based on the idea that this doesn't.

end which could happen and. would be terrifying and probably a whole. host of other problems but doesn't this. end yeah that's true doesn't this end. yeah that's it. doesn't it end and then doesn't things. go back to something resembling what. we're used to and maybe it doesn't but i. mean. if it ends are we going to want to be. somewhere else i don't know maybe we. will. yeah i don't know it's a good question. man that's what yeah yeah. because i start to think yeah i would. like to get in a place that has.

probably i mean i'd love to get in a. place where i could save tax money but. then also. there's strength in numbers like it's. nice to be around like people you know. and like. yeah you know to be able to meet up and. chat about stuff so i'll start to wonder. well. what's it it feels like a different life. like it feels like one of those netflix. series where like some somebody moves to. like a small town. yeah you know and they're like i gotta. now meet everybody and like. i don't know i just feel like i just. feel like i don't think anyone has to do. anything drastic just yet. right let's just wait out the year see. if you feel this way in january and you.

might. right but i feel like i feel like that's. a good point yeah just wait out the year. it's a bad year. as soon as this all started to happen in. march i said this year's shot. right i just knew it in my head i. mentally said it i'm like this here's. done. we're just losing a year i think it's. going to turn around. in 2021. what are things it might turn. around right after trump loses. immediately. everyone's cured yeah shockingly there's. no new cases and you're like. like yeah every everybody's great do you. think.

uh do you think trump will win or lose i. probably lose at the moment. it's he's got it's tough and it goes. moment to moment doesn't it it's moment. to moment it really is debates could. could could make him the favorite again. because biden is not a good debater and. he's kind of mentally not there but i. think trump's fighting a lot of battles. that are losing battles yeah like the. economy is collapsing. this coronavirus was not really handled. well um. he pours like forget politics so i keep. explaining my friends like super pro. trump. i'm like if there was a ceo of a company.

and half the people in it thought he was. trying to kill them. even if they were wrong you can't get. rid of half of them. right you got to get rid of him like he. pours gasoline. and like every day whether he's he might. not be trying to kill them but every day. gets in the elevator and he's like. maybe i'll kill you like like. wait he's doing it again he's doing it. and then the other people the company. like. that's the way he is yeah he's joking. that's what he does. yeah it's a joke and they're like no he.

said there was poise in the pen he's. gonna stab me they go. will you stop it's amazing how we can't. live in this schizophrenia forever. so many people take everything he says. so so seriously yeah. it's like um and also i think a lot of. people want him to be something that he. isn't a lot of time yeah it's like. a lot of people elected him knowing he. was a cr like. crazy wild odd businessman yeah he's a. con. artist yeah he's the most successful con. artist of all time. which is why there's part of me that.

likes him i know he's full of [ __ ] the. people on the right think he was chosen. by jesus. to free every child that's being. trafficked or whatever. the people on the left think he's adolf. hitler the reality is. he's a riverboat casino hustler he's a. huckster. and he's just been able to bluff because. he knows social media. and he knows and i think that's the real. story. that's what makes him more interesting. to me yeah he's the most successful. [ __ ] card shark three-card monty.

dealer [ __ ]. slum lord that you've ever known like. he's doing it on the world stage he. doesn't have a clue what he's gonna say. right he just lets it fly yeah he lets. it rip and that character to me. not that he's this omnipotent force of. evil. or that he's uh this amazing angel. the idea that he's just kind of a. regular guy. who's a con makes him more impressive to. me. and it makes the story actually a lot. more interesting oh this.

vote if you want a good show if you. don't have cable anymore but you still. want to be a part like if you're able to. have the. separatist and not get it like sometimes. i get my boots in the mud. yeah if you're able to keep your boots. out of the mud there's no greater. show than the show we're watching than. the show we're watching yeah. it's obvious you're gonna be fun i mean. america is gonna give you money. you know like um but i i also think. well i don't know. right now people are getting mailed.

money and can't handle it. yeah some people are getting guardian. mailed money home. yeah once a month and they're just and. they just. cannot hack it you. um they gotta go to applebee's it just. licked the floor well there's a thing. i remember when he won which i thought. he was gonna win. yeah to me it became really obvious yeah. i thought so but. when he won i was like holy [ __ ] the. next day and i. i think everybody had this moment. they're like. i could be president yeah well i think.

everybody had that moment and then. everybody had. this this very interesting moment too. and it happens. in every thriller in every thriller of. most thrillers there's a scene where the. car is dangling. off the off the mountain right. and everybody's you're kind of in that. moment of being like. what's gonna happen now yeah when's it. gonna fall it's gotta fall right. or does it get pulled back does it get. you know how does it work just did the. mercedes-benz back up in jurassic park. and. you know somehow and the problem is.

we've been living in that moment. for four years like that moment of like. tension and anxiety and what happens and. some people are like oh this is fun it's. a movie. and then some people are like no but. they could die and some people like yeah. but they're not real and. some people like no but they are. actually real some of them are real and. you're like good points some of them are. real. so it's just i look at it so differently. everybody's so invested in one side of. the other side. i look at the guy and i'm like nobody's. had a wilder life than this guy. yeah nobody like he might have has one.

of the most crazy lives in history. i can't believe that more black men. don't lowkey. think that donald trump is oh they do. because he's like. some people complete like he's a. the g he's like yeah in that regard of. like. money cash hoes men in general i think. because we tend to like. just we're not like i think women might. think about things a little more. right but men might just take something. at face value.

and sometimes the stuff he says you just. got [ __ ] hilarious. yeah and you just move on about your day. whereas a woman will be like uh that was. horrible. like he said a horrible thing and he's. our president you're like yeah but he's. it's just funny but also when you grow. up poor especially i mean growing up. poor and white like you never have. any i never thought any politicians were. really much but cl like it always seemed. like. like they never came to our neighborhood. and did anything you know. i remember the richest guy i knew would. drive by our neighborhood he was a. veterinarian and he would throw.

dead animals into the ditch outside of. our apartment complex. and i remember we would throw like. carcass that like caught like cossackses. and like. you know goat occipitals and [ __ ] at. each other just you know. and just rattle off you know if you got. a rib cage you would just have unlimited. bullets. from true detective this entire child. but just like. and that was like kind of like he was a. city councilman or something i think and. that was the closest. we ever got to play there was a senator. lived in my account. clearly a mob guy all right his name was.

like al d'amato he's like a respected. guy people know he is but he clearly has. a local. goon and he was just like he would just. walk around the san gennaro festival. just like eating this little custard and. like just. drinking booze i'm like this dude. doesn't give a [ __ ] drinking the blood. of his. yeah of his grandparents he doesn't give. a [ __ ] about any of this now he's a nice. guy and my family liked him but it's. like. they don't care he had a poker alliance. let's look at him right here there he is. alfonse. alfonse d'amato yeah he would just walk.

around and like you know he'd have like. a little eggplant parmesan he'd be. twirling linguine. yeah and a little uh like a little paper. a little uh plastic cup yeah maybe twirl. the linguine and just walk around eating. it like. you know they'd be playing like when the. moon hits. and i'm like what are the chances this. guy's uh i bet he's pretty swayable. yeah yeah i bet you could put him in a. room hand a little money and. d'amato is chairman of the poker players. alliance. a non-profit organization set up to help. protect and fight for the rights of. poker players in the united states.

that's long island that's where it came. from. we protected the pokemon and look at his. dimey. dimes yeah sound like brennan's child. right now but his diamond. dime of a wife yeah look how. he won her in a game yeah. he could have won her from trump here's. here's the interesting thing i think. about trump. i think he's he's a reflection of what. we have become. a country that does shady business right. that we're all on our third wife.

right we have a semi-autistic child. everybody has a semi-autistic child. and i don't mean this in any negative. way i just to me he's like. he's the mirror we don't want to see. like yeah. in a lot of ways you know what bothers. him. about really rich people is like what. they will say to country club to each. other privately he'll just go out and. say that to the united nations. and they're like whoa whoa you guys are. trash. you're like you know he's the he's the. dad in your neighborhood who's like this.

neighborhood's changing and you're like. shut up dad imagine he now he's the. president. now that guy's a prince now the guy who. sits on his patio. smoking a cigar saying veiled racist. things is now the president of the. united states. it's a problem but it's also the most. predictable thing ever yeah. because we love celebrity we're obsessed. we love the idea of somebody that we. know. he got in the game we know him he has. name recognition we followed him forever. he was a reality tv he was off script. also he came in at a time like. yeah he came in at a time where things.

were getting all like everyone is so. tired of this they were boring and they. were good. things were kind of good like even. though things weren't good for. millions of people all we really look at. is like media and everything and obama. was in and everybody was like yeah. things are kind of good. and then we were like wait a minute what. if we just throw this wrecking ball. at like it might just be interesting. again and then we didn't know now we're. just living in the time when we're like. oh we didn't know how interesting it was. gonna get.

yeah like we didn't realize how house. fragile i didn't realize. i didn't realize how fragile society was. i didn't realize how many people. were interested ready to just burn down. to trader joe's it's interesting i. didn't realize how many people were like. you know i'm mad about that. let's go burn down to trader joe's well. i had no idea we're going to start to. see. like people putting antifa on their. resumes right. yeah like i was a colonel in antifa you. may remember me. i put it down to trader joe's fairfax i. was look out at that foot locker that. went down. outside of tempe you guys may remember.

that but i i get it because. i was under the uh i wasn't the rightful. watch. of zodiac 47 yeah people are. are desperate and people are pissed yeah. and they're just like [ __ ]. it and i get it and like we can work. from home we've got this unique you know. we worked our ass off to get here but. it's just like. i get it because i i have friends that. are like man i don't know what i'm going. to do now. you know like they're like i worked at a. restaurant and made good money work at a. steakhouse. it's shut down and when it's open we can. only fill 30 of the tables i don't know.

what i'm going to do and i'm not getting. unemployment anymore because i'm working. but people those people saying people. are still ejaculating. into their girlfriend yeah it's stupid. that's stupid no i'm saying it's just. like. they're still doing that yeah it just we. don't. we don't get it we don't get it we don't. get it yeah and we maybe we never do. how do you think the whole the book the. storybook of humanity kind of ends. do you think we get it look at it you're. looking at i think it ends in a. dystopian. place and what is this it ends like what.

does that mean dystopian. utopians like a perfect world dystopians. like a [ __ ] up future. like yeah i think it ends mad max here's. how i kind of internalize it thanks nick. um. i think it's like here's what i think it. is. i think outside there's going to be like. fights and and people be fighting each. other. hopefully they'll be fist fighting each. other inside of an olive garden olive. garden will become. it'll be a place for fighting. government's gonna be like snatching. people off. it's gonna be crazy right and then.

you'll be inside your house. with like vr goggles on like doing. tick-tock dances. and outside there's gonna be explosions. and you're just gonna hear gunshots and. then. you just can't hear it because you're in. like this augmented reality world of. like. the whole thing is we just climbed into. the computer yeah when. when this started everybody was just. like well the outside's a problem you're. gonna get sick. somebody's gonna you know oh that's true. now we've all climbed into the computer. i'm in the computer we're just gonna. live there forever. so humanity will it'll just get weirder. and weirder and weirder.

to the point where if you're like hey. you wanna go to the park somebody's. gonna be looking you go are you [ __ ]. sick are you a [ __ ] sicko do you know. what's out there. marauding gangs coronaviruses diseases. government agents like it's going to get. pedophilia. yeah but god like like public school. teachers the worst. the lowest of the low and i think tick. tock is a great way to take a glimpse. into the future. because the news will be like. everybody's dying. and then the kids on tick tock are just.

like yeah. you know just like this right. just just unbothered just completely. like. like they're teletubbies yeah just like. some kids getting molested and they're. teletubbies they're just dancing on the. screen and they're just like. mouthing the words to songs they didn't. write yeah and they're just. dancing and then and that's kind of the. beginning. of of and then you have this girl who. mouths trump like sarah cooper whatever. her name is. who's whatever talented i'm not cheating. on her but like she just.

like trump she like lip syncs trump so. he'll say something and she goes on tick. tock and she's got this massive. following just like lip-syncing trump. so it's gonna be weird it's just like. it's gonna be like. people lip-syncing music or the words of. other people and people can be like. that's funny it's kind of it's starting. to feel strange out there and i think it. just gets weirder and weirder. to the point where we all just want to. live in a video game. because it's more comforting than real. life and what about if semen comes out. of our bodies we just throw it away we. just.

it'll come out of your body you'll just. throw it away but i think a lot of it'll. be like. somebody come to collect it it'll be. it'll be sex robots it'll be stim. it'll be weird stimuli it'll be they'll. still be [ __ ] and everything but. it'll be just a weird. it's going to go into you know the way. that these augmented reality games or. virtual reality feels. i think that it's very possible that. like porn gets so [ __ ] powerful and. crazy. way powerful that who knows it's. destroying people's real sex drives. it's destroying people yeah i'm one of. those people yeah it's wild.

yeah i'm one of those people man i'm. thinking of yeah. here's a young man that's obviously had. some issues hopefully. i got a quick quandary for you boys. uh for a long time now i've said that uh. timmy dillon. is a top five homosexual man of all time. and i stand by that that's awesome. can either of you name five cooler gay. dudes.

than timmy dillon and look first of all. i don't want to say there's a lot of. them i wouldn't want. any of them i'd put you in top 40 men. overall i don't want us to. well that's very i don't want to make. you think that like there's identity. politics within the comedy world. yeah i think it's just fascinating that. you know that i don't know a lot of gay. men that i. that i talk to on a semi-regular basis. right that are out. yeah that's true that's a great question. i would say probably kevin spacey. okay for one well um.

what was the question top five top five. guys i think right oh no. gay guys i'll cooler gay guys okay so. you have thrown out kevin's basic. well i here's what i'll say phenomenal. actor okay and they're much more. successful than i am. yeah yeah but when there are issues. oh yeah no he's definitely had some. issues no doubt yeah yeah so. one way to say it but he um but still. one of the most talented actors ever. absolutely just certainly this guy lists.

some examples. do we want to we don't yeah let's hear. something sorry that's all good. maybe leonardo da vinci. maybe freddie mercury. but it gets pretty hard after that yeah. i think he's saying because you're so. cool not because gay guys aren't cool no. no. this guy is very sweet um da vinci. mercury dylan. yeah i didn't know leonardo da vinci was. gay but uh i think he was just like. abraham lincoln slept with dude for like.

three years that was weird did he yeah. i've been to his childhood home amy. sherman i went to his childhood home. oh my god that's a fun date yeah what a. wild what a wild day that is. when amy and lincoln's childhood home i. take people on pretty bad dates. yeah i really do yeah um let me think of. some really. admirable gay males out there harvey. miller hinchcliffe. okay um brandon chapman i'm kidding i. don't i'm trying to think of like. i don't know like the ones that are. important in history like harvey milk.

and people like that. yeah yeah paula poundson almost a pound. stone is it is. is a gay dude that i respect um. uh who's one of my favorite. gay people i don't know if i ever really. think about it like that exactly roy. cohn. trump mentor lawyer for joe mccarthy and. is he a gay man. yeah horrible guy but oh really very. successful and do you know him. no he's died he was like a very. cutthroat. operator of a you know i don't really i.

know. enough about him but i don't know too. much about him but he was one of the. first gay guys to be like. i'm also evil are some guests important. do you think that there are i saw i. guess again because gay always. you think happy when you think of gay. you think like oh yeah yeah but it's. there's just as many evil people in the. gay community as there are in the. straight community. sure wow yeah yeah i think it's such a. the distinction is almost i think as we. grow up. it's not going to be like the.

distinction of sexuality is going to be. somewhat less oh i feel it i feel it. going there even by one generation it's. almost. insane i mean look at bravo there's a. ton of evil people on bravo. yeah andy cohen like he gets the whole. shows he's like. all right well we're going to put you. all under tremendous emotional financial. strain and maybe someone jumps off a. roof. yeah these people's husbands kill. themselves they i mean. yeah no the dark arts it's definitely. dark arts over there.

there's a level of manipulation of thing. like when people when people start to. see other people as just. contestants correct on their in their. life. yeah that's what the real housewives are. be a contestant in your life. sick so yeah you know andy cohen and roy. cohn are two evil. there has to be a dark side to that. there has to be a downside where's the. light side to it. yeah the dark side is the only side that. i see. i mean the light i mean the idea and. those shows are entertaining don't get.

me wrong. but that is what why we have trump. right so if you hate trump and you're. watching the real housewives. you are being inconsistent right because. that type of perversion of reality where. we know it's fake but we watch it anyway. that gave us trump that ability. to manipulate situations manufacture. them. uh things that we know are [ __ ] but.

we don't care because they're. entertaining. right that's the beginning of trump. well it's interesting too that hollywood. there's not a lot of like hollywood. never stands up and says oh. like they made him a celebrity like i. think trump was always a businessman. people always knew he was this. long-coded businessman and that's why. the people on the right are like [ __ ]. hollywood i'm like your boy. is a hollywood guy he's a uh 15 years he. had one of the top rated shows on tv. he's a hollywood dude but hollywood. never takes any credit for creating them.

you know what they refer to as the. monster they never will. it's not interesting bro it's almost. he's just such a successful con. you just got to look back and go this. guy has just. every single opportunity this guy's. ever had to just leverage himself. yeah bite off something more than he. could chew. he figures out a way to make it happen. it's wild. it's insane and he's been able to do it. at the highest level humanly possible.

and that's the interesting story but is. there any here's one thing i think we. that we that we romanticize is the. different levels. like there are different levels but i. wonder if the get if that ability ever. maybe it is like poker when you're in. the bigger games it seems. you faded some people fade under that. pressure but some people who. aren't have have very probably not much. empathy here's the thing about trump. there's nothing in that guy's life he. said i can't do. right or i can't be right now that's a.

con art i mean that's not. like if you think of the most successful. guy you know you. you know he would still say hey man that. that's not for me. this guy didn't think anything was. beyond the realm of his doing. yeah including leading the free world um. and. part of that is this just the idea that. like no matter what situation i'm in. i'll come out clean. i'll figure it out it's amazing how. it's amazing in some ways it's freaking.

admirable yeah the journey of there's a. lot of. to fearlessness yeah the fearlessness is. admirable. there's a lot to look at him and aspire. to in a weird way right. and and and that if we don't have that. conversation we'll never understand why. he's so popular. and if you don't admit that a lot of. what he does and a lot of the people he. calls out whether it's the media. or things that are equally [ __ ] up um. if you don't admit that he's right about. some of that you'll never beat him. right the the reason that he wins is.

because you keep saying he's wrong about. everything. right but if you if you seed some ground. to him and go yeah. he made a few good points but. it doesn't matter because he's not. he just can't do the job yeah he's. incapable of doing the actual job. and everyone's forgot that being the. president is a job. like nobody forgets it it's like. managing people inspiring people. taking responsibility not i mean this is. imagine if your. your life was falling apart and you went.

your family's life is falling apart. and your father instead of like going. out there trying to get another job is. like blaming your little brother. complaining about you the food your. mother was making being like he's a. scumbag. you know that you know any any anything. i mean this guy's. been outsourcing his room cleaning right. just. he trump is you'd never want a guy like. that as a leader he doesn't take any. responsibility. he's petty he's vindictive he just pits. people against each other. he pours gasoline like if somebody comes.

in i've worked in offices somebody comes. in they have a bad day. you try to get them on the right track. yeah you don't. turn around the whole office and go look. at mary she's weak. yeah you can't do that as a leader she. can marry over using her bathroom. privileges. mary's weak she can't handle it you. can't do that as. a lee unless you are and rumor hasn't. she duplicated the key to the battery. you duplicate it but if you're a. fly-by-night con artist you can do that. because. what you're really doing trump just.

licenses his name. the only value is in his name and then. people buy he's not this amazing. business guy. i mean what he what he is good at is is. being famous. right and if you're famous you could. just treat people like [ __ ] it doesn't. matter. but i also think though there that he. wants to. be even if the business is if the. business is shady and other people don't. like it. that he applies those same concepts to. a lot of like um things that in america.

would seem more like traditional stances. like. okay let's stay a part of the world. health organization and the cdc. because of just how it looks how it. makes the rest of the countries feel. yeah but he's like this organization. hasn't done you know if you look at the. pluses and minuses it hasn't done [ __ ]. they haven't made it and it's not that. everything he does is wrong it's just a. way to do it. right and there's a way to do it that. doesn't feel like we're heading towards. civil war yeah. there's a way you know what i mean like. but he also right i agree. and i'm i'm with you right i think.

there's no it's all interesting he's. multinational these these institutions. like the un. the cdc the who they're all corrupt. they're all they all have a litany of. problems. and america does foot the bill for a lot. of things and not get any benefit out of. it right. but there's a way to disentangle. yourself from those systems without. it's just the way you do it oh yeah yeah. it's the way you do it. yeah he his he just doesn't have in his. bedside manner. it's it's for funerals only it's for.

funerals. it's a guy like bill burr said it's a. guy that just lived on the top of a. building. yeah his whole life and this is the way. they talk this is the way they talk i. wish her well. weak yeah you know and you that's just. not. i think ideal qualities for a president. it was fun for a while i was on board. and then. trader joe's got burnt down yeah and i. said to myself. like this will not end he won't he won't. act like. he will just keep pouring gasoline on.

this until this entire country is at war. with each other. i'm not even a political guy i don't. really give a [ __ ] but i just walk. outside i look around i go this is. probably not good. i see overturned cop cars people are. throwing molotov cocktails i'm like. what happened here we gotta change. course a little bit bring in biden let. him sleep in the chair. let that old [ __ ] die in the chair who. cares weekend at bernie's. who cares just give people health. insurance and go back to it being boring.

yeah just let people get an operation. and go back to. let's let entertainers be entertaining. we don't need the president. let's let jimmy fallon be funny again. let's not chain him to a desk and make. him apologize. he did blackface in 96. let's let people. be funny that should be funny. and let's get an old boring person as. the president. what woman is most likely to get busted. for blackface in the future and we don't. know it yet. i i hope it's a fat woman just that's.

just because it's funnier to see a fat. lady in blackface it's like oh you you. did this. i could see chelsea handler having done. something at like uh. built her entire career calling a little. mexican guy a nugget. what's nugget close to someone remind me. and he died. same page yeah i just headed up oh there. you go what word is. nugget similar to that's also a. two-syllable word that you wish to. you know and she culture of didn't she. appropriate that rapper guy. dude everything she did was cheap race. jokes and now she's walking around like. she's malcolm x.

yeah she thinks she's malcolm x it's. unbelievable i did a whole thing on my. podcast i said i hope she goes and. apologizes for everything america's done. wrong. like she goes to war zones and she goes. hello gaza it's me chelsea yeah that was. a documentary. hello iraq it's me chelsea it's just a. bunch of people sitting there chelsea. handlers walking. walking by dressed in prada why does it. end. it's sometimes it feels like a lot of. women that they have to. take on a political route heavily do you. feel that or no. i think some of it is that i think i see. a lot of guys too and i see a lot yeah.

maybe it's just everybody it's. you know what it is man nobody can. understand when it ends nobody can walk. away. nobody can walk away nobody can just say. i had a fun time i made a shitload of. money now i'm out. everybody's got to be relevant and if. politics is relevant they're political. if this went the other way and no one. cared about politics she'd be still. talking about. you know eating her out in a mexican. restaurant or whatever the hell she. wrote books about. yeah she's talking about politics. nuggets that's.

if politics wasn't relevant chelsea. would be riding seven mexican guys down. the street. on her way to a cinco de mayo. celebration the woman wants to be. relevant. she's i mean i don't know that she's. ever read a book or has any thoughts. about anything. yeah she just understands that racism is. bad congratulations. good job great job we're glad you've. come to this. and here comes someone right here a. beautiful young man right here good. looking audi i'm impressed. with the looks on the audience here.

thank you man i'll say this this is some. of the. uh my people when they call in it's all. ski masks you can't see their faces are. wanted by the feds. this is kind of a first to us too it. must be a weird venn diagram of your. guys's fans that. interesting the podcast regular. listeners. the only question i have for you is. in relation to something that i'm. dealing with right now i'm trying to. find a better place to live. but i can't because my horrible [ __ ]. credit situation i owe so much money to. creditors because of chemotherapy.

and i'm not going to [ __ ] pay even if. i do i'm just going to keep having these. delete. marks on my credit report so i'm. [Music]. number one let me say it was a little. irresponsible of you to get cancer. yeah i was a little irresponsible. especially don't see me going out and.

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about nick do you remember anything else. we wanted to talk about. i mean oh i guess the. um i don't know we covered a lot of. stuff i covered a lot i've been talking. for a while nick yeah. hour and a half wow oh you're going to. space dinner tonight aren't you. i think so yeah i think so maybe i'm i'm. going to pretty sure. is it outside his birthday is it his. birthday yeah i didn't know it was his. birthday. yeah he just he didn't say i'm getting. del taco after this though i just need a. taco.

oh just hold me over uh tucker carlson. uh new york times released his. address did they or i see i only i claim. that they were gonna i literally only. stopped from yours. they do [ __ ] like that they did it with. like i just get. you know listen man i don't watch tucker. i don't care sometimes he says something. i'm like that makes sense. sometimes he says something i'm like. that's wrong i love all these people. that are so committed to like. hating a guy or loving a guy i'm like. who. why i just watch the guy every now and. then i go yeah i don't think so. how did we get there though how do we.

get where people. because i noticed sometimes i'll notice. i'll fall into it if i really let myself. yeah but then i notice i'm not an. activist right like. people crave uh there's a few things. about people they crave. drama they crave fights it's back to the. days of the roma coliseum oh yeah they. like to see combat. now there is no real combat right now so. a lot of people are sitting on a couch. and they're on the computer so the. combat is all internet it's all digital. they love that um i also think that. people.

are just they want to be slaves people. want. to generally be in a group and to have. allies and then have another group that. they hate. yeah it's just what it is and it's like. i don't know what that is. somebody might be able to explain that. behavioral psychologist or somebody i. don't know people just. like having friends that they connect. with. and they get these friends by having the. same enemies and the same allies. so you can't look at a guy like tucker. carlson he's a human being. and then he might be wrong about things.

um you look at him as an. enemy of you he's a direct enemy of you. um uh because he espouses a different. political ideology because you think. that. he's making life unsafe for people. because of what he believes. yeah and some of that might have some. some. some some relevance you know like i get. it if you're undocumented immigrant. you know obviously your opinion of uh. trump is probably very different than a. guy like me who has a luxury of being. like. hey i'm not getting deported right right.

um. that doesn't mean every political. argument you're ever going to have. there's real. life consequences and real people are. going to be affected that doesn't mean. you can't. have a political argument about. immigration right does it mean you can't. talk about abortion. yeah some people think that the points. are in one lane that they have to. stay in that lane for everything yeah or. they think that if they can. you know yeah school shootings are. horrible i don't want them to happen i'm. for all kinds of kind of regulations. but just because people real people are.

affected by something. i mean the reason we're talking about it. is because people are affected right the. reason it's an issue in general is. because people are affected. and if you shut down dialogue then what. are people supposed to do. so these emotional appeals that a lot of. people have on the left and the right. where they're just like. but what about that kids what about that. it's like yeah but how did we get here. how do we get to the kids in the cages. it's not having an immigration policy. it's not having any agreed upon policy. that's how we got here so we need. to figure out a way to have a policy.

that makes sense yeah. yeah and there has to be it's also like. we always want everyone else to do. everything it's like. the government all of it is just society. it's just. the best we can do right right now right. it's like some people act like. every everything should be different. everything should be different if it was. supposed to be different. right now yeah it would be different. this is the best we can do. to have one of the best societies in the. world i wonder if sometimes my boomer. parents might make fun of all the time. but like sometimes my dad was right when. he was just like.

like every time somebody bring up. politics my father would just be like. i can't get involved yeah it's really. the best thing he goes i just can't get. involved like. like he just like like there's a certain. level of like if you're gonna get in it. get in it run for something. yeah really get in there but we can't. have a society where every [ __ ] human. being is a cable news anchor yeah. we can't i can't be in line at starbucks. and and people are you know in a heated. political debate at eight o'clock in the. morning. we can't do it well it's unhealthy.

there's more to life that's the other. thing about plastics dude. there's more to life go camping go fall. in love go. do something go read a book go love. someone yeah and it really. talking about it it gets so it's such an. addictive thing. and it's funny like the biggest. addiction. in the world right now really is uh. people consuming things that they like. like the news really media that they. know is bad for them. but they wake up and they go to it again. and again let's just do it. yeah let's just do it anyway and they.

know it's been and it's a bro that is an. addiction. because they do it to feed something. inside of themselves. they do it because it's easier for you. to sit there and be angry. any of us and i don't mean someone but. all of us it's easier for us to sit. there and be angry than it is to take. action and make our lives better. a 100 percent i think this is an escape. and i think people escape into this. world instead of fixing the world that. is very close to them yeah. like yeah bob you know and it's hard. it's hard to remember sometimes but.

but we try and think about that a lot in. here but yeah dude thanks so much man. thank you. tell me about your podcast too again tim. dillon's show it's on youtube and all. the other places you'll get it and uh. you know we put it out once a week that. we have a patreon if you like it so much. want an extra episode. we do an extra episode a week and that. is uh at the patreon.com. the tim dillon show yeah it's awesome. we're patreon subscribers to his aren't. we. yeah yeah so we're we have a lot of fun. and i enjoy it and uh. that's you know the future until you.

know maybe forever but. have you thought about coming out with a. a different type of show at some point. do you start to think about that. absolutely because i get bored yeah. we'll get bored we'll do something we. get good at it. then we get bored and you have a co-host. right uh well i have a producer who. he chats sometimes yeah every now and. then he chats back. in and uh he chats every now and then. but for the most part he just sits there. they they're not there to pipe down yeah. hey pipe down yeah nick will sometimes. bring up his home state you know. constantly or something.

every now and then rogue is going to. give jamie vernon death there. she shoot him a desk there like you want. to get your head kicked off. right now uh check out tim dillon's show. um i'll see you later tonight yeah thank. you so much for coming in. you bet i appreciate it now i'm just. floating. on the breeze and i feel i'm falling. like these leaves i must be. cornerstone.

oh but when i reach that ground i'll. share this piece of mind i found i. can feel it. but it's gonna take a little time. for me to set that parking brake and let. myself. that go on me. i'll sit and tell you my story.

[Music]. on the runaway train with a heavy load. of my. pants. and these wells that i've been riding on.

they want something that they're damn. they're gone. just.