The Pursuit | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #629

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worry about it. And um thank you guys so. much. Uh happy holidays. Lord, I got some things I need to say. Lord, I got some things I need to say. The studs, man, everybody saw that. beautiful. They had a lesbian lady and. it was kind of a little kind of a little. chocolaty lesbian out there and she was. helping people get to heaven. She is that Willy Wonka. She's that kind. of lesbian Willy Wonka and she's helping.

people get to heaven, baby. Praise God. I loved seeing that. Play it up a little bit if we can show. that. I got some. girl. >> You can't win.

Yeah, a truck went by right there. That's nothing, twin. [crying]. >> 2. >> That's what's up, baby. And that's. what's beautiful about the world. That's. beautiful. Look at that.

lesbians helping people get to heaven. That's where we are. It's a lesbian. heaven, baby. That's what it is. A thug. holiday. It's um it's December 2025. And. I'm grateful to sit here with you today. and to uh have a moment of each other's. time. I really am. And yeah, back in the day, a lesbian were were lesbians allowed to. help people get to heaven? I would say. no. You would see lesbians high-fiving each. other. You would see lesbians, they were.

untickable. That was a thing you could. tell if you tickled a woman and they. didn't. and they didn't laugh. But they had just. gotten like a a fade, a booy fade. Those were kind of giveaways at the. time, but now things are different. Yeah. Just Yeah. It just feels like. there's things you want to yell at the. heavens. And I'll expound on that. I'll get into. that a little bit. Let me u we're going. to get to some of you guys' calls. Um.

I'm happy to have this time. Um. and yeah, I I know people uh. congratulations to anybody who's coming. off um like a sober October, you know. I. know there's that. There's um No Nut. November. Um 40 fart March if anybody did that. this year. Um which is pretty fun. People don't do. it much, but it's, you know, trying to. fart just 40 times in March.

and nighttime doesn't count. Nighttime. doesn't count. So, yeah, that's uh that. you don't tally those, but um what else? There's Yeah, Movember where you don't. shave or whatever for HIV or whatever. There's um what? 11 [ __ ] June is another. one. If you've never you want to make. your own Vietnam baby, you try an 11. [ __ ] June. Try an 11 [ __ ] June.

Um and do not try do not try. Do not. This is not advice. We're just saying. these are things people do. I'm not. telling anybody to go do it. Now, if you do do uh an 11SJ and you uh. do do duties in the middle of the night, that counts. If you're, you know, if. you're night [ __ ] or whatever, that. that counts. Those count. Um. but yeah, people are are challenging. themselves in the world, you know. So,

it's good to know that we are still out. there challenging ourselves uh as. humans, as humans that exist. Um, so. congratulations to anybody that's going. through that's been through any of those. things this year. Um, and you start to you start to wonder. you start to wonder like why why does it. feel like maybe our country is like. we're losing or we're falling behind or. as humans that uh we might be overtaken. by robots and then you realize oh I I.

know why because we're doing an 11 [ __ ]. June like we're doing no nut um November. you know that's what we're focusing on. or like a 2000 step. uh timber you know some people do did uh. I know 2000 step timber And that's kind. of crazy. We only do 2,000 steps in that. month. That's pretty cool. Um, there's. different ones out there. I'd love to. know more of them. If you know some, uh, drop those off in the hotline 985664953.

Let me know some of the challenges that, uh, you and your friends have been. putting yourselves through over time. Um, but yeah, happy to be alive here still. in America. And one thing that I learned. this year that was that I thought was. interesting or that I uh that I um. listened about was uh. Ken Burns when he came on and he was. talking about the Declaration of. Independence and he was talking about. the American Revolution.

and he said that like the Declaration of. Independence was it's just a it's like. it's not it's def it's definitive but. only as long as it's taken care of, right? It's like it's not guaranteed. throughout time that there's going to be. an America or that these are the the. laws and the ways that things are going. to be. So, yeah, it's like I think I've. just all always thought that America was. guaranteed.

That's what I thought. I thought, "Oh, well, America, yeah, it's guaranteed, right? this will always be here. Whether we say it's good things are are. good in America or things are bad in. America, that it'll it will always be. there. And then you start to realize, well, that's not the truth. There's nothing. that says America has to be there. forever. you know, as much as it would be hard. for us to conceptualize that that's that.

that America disappearing or being taken. over or um renamed basically uh like or. having a merger um is far-fetched. It's. not it's not impossible because it's not. a guaranteed thing, [snorts] right? The. Declaration of Independence, it's a it's. a hopeful letter to the future. It's a. um it's almost like we we look at the. Declaration of Independence more like a. receipt than like a um like a worksheet. That's what I think of or just as.

America that way. Um and I'm not trying. to get real highbrow like I know that. like uh this is how we need to be or. anything like that. I'm just I'm kind of. thinking of just how I have taken it for. granted. Just how it's like this thing. won't always be here unless we protect. it. Um, now what gets scary is when the. America that we believe is one way. starts to change. and then you're like, well, what am I.

protecting? And I think that's also some of the. place where we are right now. Um, but yeah, I I just was like, yeah, I've. always kind of just assumed America. would be here, that it would be this. steadfast thing, but that's not the. truth. It's, you know, throughout time, places have changed and they've been. overtaken and they've um had different. rulers from different places come in. Um, I'm sure there's been a lot of.

places that have been sold out from. under their feet. So, I don't know, just thinking about. that, not trying to get into like a. negative space about it, but just like. that having an America is an active. thing. It's not a. passive thing and that's scary. And then. also though it's exciting. because there is some challenge like. okay how do I.

contribute instead of just um. assume. So, those are just some some stuff I'm. thinking about. And uh yeah, I've had a. tough time like keeping some of my. thoughts organized. >> [snorts]. >> um recently. Uh. and so I'm just doing my best. Um. what else have I been thinking about? Uh.

I think I've been thinking about like. how much [sighs and gasps]. you know, the person I would like to be. and the person that I am. and the distance between those two. and how much do I. how much do I really how much do I. really want to be the the best version.

of myself? I think I want to, but I. guess how much work do I want to put in? Like here I am with all this gift of of. just of being alive, right? Of being. alive, of being able to like exist in. the universe. I can smell things. If. somebody's cooking muffins, I can um. smell it. I can make macaroni. I can go. for a walk. I can look at my neighbor. Um. yeah, there's all these little things. you can do for that are like make you.

alive. And then it's like, yeah, some of that just I just get. comfortable. So yeah, I think I'm just been thinking. about, well, how how much more uncom. like. am I willing to get more uncomfortable. to see if I can be more. and just yeah, to get to know myself. more. Um.

yeah and then what am I afraid of. something if I don't do that. you know there's practices in like just. like um my dating life or my like time. scheduling or uh my organization all. those types of things where I could be. doing. you know [gasps and sighs]. um where I could be. doing better you know to have just like. better sense of integrity with myself.

Um. and yeah though it's like. but sometimes I want to take the easy. way out or I just want to uh. do what feels good or. Yeah. And and I'm not being super hard. on myself. I'm just thinking like I. guess how many times do I want to go in. some of these patterns where I don't get. a different outcome.

Um. yeah. So I guess I'm just thinking about. that as the year ends and we're coming. into a new year and uh and then like. realistically challenging myself. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I don't want to set. myself up for just for failure and then. I don't want to be too hard on myself. Um, so what are some realistic ways to. challenge myself? Um, [snorts]. so yeah, I'm not looking for any. self-pity or anything like that. I'm.

just thinking out loud. You know, I fell. into a weird spot in this show over the. past few years where I used to just. think out loud and then uh. and then I started fearing that a lot of. it was self-pity. So yeah, just I'm just. grateful to be thinking out loud. I'm. grateful to have some time to think out. loud and I'm going to try to meditate. more in the coming month and that's. going to help me have some more peace of. mind. Um, and that will give my brain a. little bit more time uh to uh feel. relaxed and to um be able to have.

thoughts in uh be less reactive and more. um. more uh responsive but not reactive. Um so I'm looking forward to that. Um, is any of this any of this uh this. communication making sense, Trevan, today? >> Yeah, for sure. And I mean, it even ties. back to uh the Ken Burns episode. I. mean, it's a like in the Declaration,

it's the pursuit of happiness. It's a. pursuit, you know. >> Oh, that's what they say in it. Yeah. It's the pursuit of happiness, right? It's like like Yeah. America wasn't. guaranteed, right? Um and it's the. pursuit of happiness and it it but it's. Yeah. something that it it's not. guaranteed. It's like it has to. continually be achieved. Um, and in the. end the revolution was by the people and. it was it has to be achieved by like.

it's like never before in America has I. felt like that we have to be the ones to. uh pick ourselves up, pick our neighbors. up and our friends up and um. and. and do better. uh by ourselves and by each other and. just or just continue to do, right? Um, yeah, just continue to do that. This is. a doing.

Um, so yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm. seeming crazy, but I just that's some. stuff that's been on my mind. Do Do you. think anybody else thinks about that, Trevan? >> Definitely. I do every day. >> Thanks, man. Yeah, thanks for helping me. today, dude. I just feel like Yeah, it's. just a lot, man. It's a lot. Um, [snorts]. yeah, man. Sometimes it's just a lot. And then it's also kind of scary when. you realize, [ __ ] this [ __ ] isn't.

guaranteed. You're like, you know, we've been. walking around kind of big backing with. the American flag in my generation, in. my lifetime. Like, damn, we've been. we've been out there big backing, you. know? We had Michael Jordan and them. went over there and beat the chopsticks. off them dogs over there, you know, like. it in the uh dream team. You know what. I'm saying? We've had, you know what I'm. saying? We've always been like America. But then you start to realize that a lot.

of the sports, all that's just that's. just uh that's the fun. That's the. comfort food. The truth is just like, you know, is this going to continue? Is. this still going to be who's this going. to be owned by? What's this? How is this. going to be operated? Anyway, grateful. to be able to think out loud. Thank you. guys for listening to me. Thanks for. being a part of um uh this podcast. We. got to be um and thanks Trevan. I. appreciate it, man.

Um and congratulations, dude. We got to. be on the podcast charts for Spotify. Uh, so I want to thank everybody that. helped us make the charts just by paying. attention at all or listening or even. looking at a um social media thing or um. calling in uh letting us be a part of. your life let and letting us be a part. of our lives. Uh and um.

yeah, I don't know. I feel sad all of a. sudden for some reason kind of. Trying to think of why a little bit. Let. me think. Um. [sighs] I think it feels a little bit. scary. That's what I think it feels like. to me. It feels a little scary. thinking about like what's going to. happen, what could happen. And man,

maybe I am getting paranoid. I agree. Also just got a new tooth put in. my. tooth broke out eating some popcorn on a. Southwest flight. Um but uh yeah, I. think I'm feeling like. like just unsure. That's that's a lot of it. I think I'm. feeling unsure about what the future. looks like and it used to feel more. certain. and that's kind of spooky. It's kind of spooky to feel some of. that. Um, so anyway, not trying to be a downer.

And uh, Booby, I'm wearing this shirt. today. Thank god I wore it. That just. made me smile. Um, and yeah, thank everybody that that that. that uh enjoyed the podcast or paid. attention. And yeah, I I can't believe. that we did u that people um absorbed so. many different episodes. And I'm. thankful to Joe Rogan who who helped. give me some suggestions. uh over the. past couple years about podcasting and.

um and just to be able to operate in a. world where we get to talk. You know, when I was a kid, I never had a voice. I. didn't have a voice for myself. I didn't. have anybody uh teaching me how to have. a voice or how to speak up for myself. Um I lived in a lot of fear and stuff. like that. And so to just be in a place. even where even if. even if it's just like, damn, this [ __ ]. this honky is loud. I got some things I need to [crying] say. >> that just to I can't even believe that.

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we have. There's a lot. We posted them. on to Facebook. Um, we'll run their. names at the end of this episode today. Thank you to our producers currently, Trevan, uh, Nick, Zack, uh, P, our lead. producer, uh, Andrew Baxter, um, Nick. Davis, Trevan Stegagel. Is that how you. say your last name? Trevan. >> Steagle. >> Damn. [ __ ] dude. So, we still have a. lot to learn here, guys. That's what I'm. saying. Trevan Steaggle, thank you so. much, dude. And, uh, yeah, I can't even. believe that. Can you believe that?

>> That's crazy. I can't. >> I mean that's kind of crazy. Like I'm. not saying next year we'll be back into. you know we'll be the 11,000th podcast. and in two years we'll be out of. business but um but just it's just funny. man. I just cannot even believe that. That is crazy to me. Uh. [snorts] but. yeah but just thanks for paying. attention or not for pay just [ __ ] I. don't know. Thanks for [ __ ] around. with us. Thanks for letting us just. bother you. That's what I mean. Yeah. I.

honestly mean that. That's what I mean. Thanks for letting us bother you a. little bit. Um, all right. Let's get. into some calls here. Um, here we go. Yep. And it's a different time now. We. need lesbians to get into heaven, man. And that's the thing. Everybody now, we. got all got to pull our weight. We all. need uh. even lesbians are we we all need. lesbians to get into heaven. You know,

lesbians are helping people get into. heaven. So obviously, you know, >> hey Theo, I just wanted to call I wanted to ask. you, man. I I got a best friend. He has. a problem. He's in love with lesbians. all of his girls that he falls in love. with turn out to be lesbians. And I'm just we need some advice of how. he can break through, how he can convert.

these girls. And I just want to know if you got any. advice on that, brother. >> Wow. How to bring a lesbian back, huh? How to bring a stud back out of the. solar system. and get him right here. Boots on the. ground. H. I think your buddy and I've seen this. before and it's the only reason I'm. saying this.

I I had a friend uh and I think we could. still be friends. We haven't seen each. other in a long time. So, but um anyway, he he really was uh he really was. homosexual. He was homosexual and he um. but he would try to date uh gay women. because he was afraid to just date. homosexual men. So it kind of wasn't cool. It's like if.

you were just trying to get these cuz. the truth is he's trying to get these. women that are kind of like men. and. he's trying to get them to be full men, you know, and he would try to make them. get jobs with like UPS or whatever, do. that kind of [ __ ] to try to get them all. the way over there, you know. But now, no matter how many hours you work for. UPS. or um or you work at the post office or. whatever, you ain't going to sprout a. wiener, you know? That [ __ ] is just that's. facts. So, that was the kind of [ __ ].

that he was trying to do. And we didn't. realize it at first. We're just like, damn, he likes these tough women. You. know, he likes these women. Like, one of. his chicks would wear a [ __ ] neck. brace for no reason. You know what I'm saying? That [ __ ] was. a she, you know? She would just, she looked like a damn. Pez dispenser over there. And she did. drywall, you know. Um, and but anyway, uh, but anyway, the. truth was he was trying to convert these.

women over to men. So, I think your. buddy could be homosexual, buddy. So, I. would sit your buddy down. and I'd see if he's gay. Is he gay? Is. your buddy gay? Um, but after he's done deciding if he likes. men or women, tell him to [ __ ] get. his [ __ ] together and help this country. out. Okay, that's all I'm telling him. after he's done deciding. if he likes these le cuz a lot of these.

lesbian women, they got that long [ __ ]. on them. You know what I'm saying, boy? A lot of them, they just they'll stand. there just at night just just straining. as hard as they can just trying to. launch that that uh just trying to. launch that clam, just trying to. elongate that sea lamb, baby. You know, a lot of them just trying to strain so. much they just sprout a heck. But who. knows? And I think I wish him well out. there, brother. Praise God. Um,

let's hear more. What do you think, Trevan? Is that fair to say to those. guys? >> I think definitely if he wants a real. challenge, there's bigger fish to fry. >> Yeah. You're trying to convert a. lesbian. Don't me don't mess that lady. up like that. Don't just go either get either get a. straight woman or get a gay man, but. don't sit here standing on both sides of. the fence. You ruining other people's. [ __ ]. You out here, you talk, you talking to a. girl with a booy fade and a ball cap.

over there and a Texas Rangers hat and a. wife beater or whatever and she's taped. her nipples down or whatever. Chill out, man. She drew hair on her chest between. her tits and you're, you know, you. trying to say, "Ooh, you know, let me buy you a uh let me buy. you some oven mitts or something." Don't. do that [ __ ] Get out there and get what. you really want, which is a man. Get. that little Christmas waner, baby. Get. that baby antler. You know what I'm. saying? That can't.

you out here pretending wasting these. lesbians times. Don't waste these. lesbians times because we need them. right now. They're helping us get into. heaven. It's all hands on deck, baby. It's. blacks verse drones, baby. Let's go. What else do we have? We got another uh. call that came in right here. >> Yo, Von, my name is My name is Patrick. >> What's up, Patrick? Uh, good to hear. from you, brother. Thank you for.

calling, Homer. >> I live in Washington, Illinois. >> Oh, you live in Washington, Illinois. Dude, my friend Corey used to live. there. He was in the pipe fitters union. Dude, he might still be in it. I'm not. going to text him. Okay, onward. I kind. of need some advice, bro. I like I want. to ask this girl for her number, but. like, you know, like I ain't ever really. talked to her that much. Like, we talked. a little bit, but like not that much. And low key, we got three lunch hours at.

our school and we I don't know what one. she's switching to next semester after. Christmas break. So, like, can you like. give me some advice to like, you know, uh get her number before Christmas. break? I mean, dude, I if you trying to get I. remember that stuff where you trying to. get a girl's number at school, that's. hard, bro. God, cuz the nerves, dude, my nerves. were so high during school, I couldn't. even do anything, dude. Every time I.

even saw a girl, I had to go to the. office and get ice on my head, dude. If. I tried to ask a girl to a dance or. whatever, I I would just wake up in the. lobby or whatever, covered in ice or. whatever, eight bags of ice. They'd have. me [ __ ] just iced out, bro. I look. like damn two chains out there running a. fever, though. Dude, it was just Dude, I. didn't They Yeah, if I even Dude, if I. even wrote check yes or no on a piece of. paper, I'd [ __ ] I'd fall out my chair. like like one of those little Joe Rogan.

baby videos, you know? So, dude, I don't. have any advice. Are you kidding, bro? What are you even talking about, dude? You know, I couldn't do [ __ ] You. haven't heard any of these podcasts, bro? I got nothing, dog. You think I got. advice for you, dude? I don't have a woman. You think I. can help you get somebody? And I will say this though, dude. There's nothing better than talking to. the girl and do and win or lose, cuz you.

walk off and you're like, "Yep, at least I tried, bro." That's American. [ __ ]. That's American [ __ ] bro. Dude, just. say, "Hey, give me half your number.". Don't even put it all on her. Give me half your number. Cuz that's. even easier. Cuz here's the thing. If. she wants you to have all of it, she'll. make sure you get the rest of it. Say, "Hey, give me half your number." And. then give her a s an an envelope or.

something with your address on it for. the mail. Put the stamps on it and say, "Look, if you want me to have the other. half, send me that bitch.". you know, then at least you got some. excitement coming. You got Santa sending. you something. Christmas means something. right there. [snorts] So, that's kind of something, dude. But yeah, dude, I remember I asked. some girl to a dance one time. She said. yes. I was high on mushrooms. I will. admit that. But I got so excited right. when she said yes. I ran through this. party of children outdoors.

Ran, jumped over a chainlink fence, uh, cut my hand and stomach open. had to go. to emergency room, ambulance, everything. So, yeah, dude, you got the. wrong [laughter] guy, bro. But I love that, bro. And yeah, you. [ __ ] dude. You get over there and you. say, "Look, I would love to have one number of your. phone number. [snorts] Just start there. Don't ask for. the whole number, bro. Don't be greedy, bro. Get one number.

See what happened, bro. You know what. I'm saying? Leave room for God to work. Praise God, brother. Good luck out. there. What do you think, Trevan? That's. fair. >> He's got to pursue it, bro. Pursue the. happiness. >> Yeah, you got to pursue. That's true. It's the pursuit of happiness. Not. guaranteed, bro. That's true. It's the pursuit. You're. right, bro. Yeah, you got to get over. there, [snorts] dude. I'm trying to think of. what you could do. But you can't be. crazy, dude. Look, if she's not.

interested, you can't make somebody. interested. But you can just have a. little bit of energy about you. Uh [snorts]. here we go. Right here. And happy. holidays to everybody and merry. Christmas. The hotline is always. 985-664-9503. >> Hey Theo, my name's Casey. Um. >> what's up Casey? Thanks for calling. I'm. drinking a little Celsius. >> I'm a fan. I've been listening for a.

long time. I'm a little drunk right now, which is. the only reason I called in. Um, just. want to let you know I just listened to. your episode where you were talking. about garlic bread. It's the best. I. love garlic bread. so much. I can't even tell you how much. I freaking love garlic bread. But even. more than that, I love you. I love. garlic bread and I love you. Just wanted. to let you know you're the best. Keep.

doing what you're doing. Don't ever. stop. Love you. I love garlic bread and I love. you. Dang, that girl's Italian, boy. Wow. That garlic, bro. That [ __ ] is good, bro. When that [ __ ] gets hard at the. edges, bro, and it turns up a little, cuz you start that biz flat, right? That. garlic bread, man. You know what I'm.

saying? Like, and you put that in the at. the end, it turns up like. like the edges are trying to get into. the middle. That's what's up. I'm like, damn. Maybe girl, let's like that. I'mma. leave the window open for you. So, but. yeah, that woman's Italian. Uh, all. right. Thank you for calling. And yeah, thank you for liking garlic bread. I. like it and I'm glad that I like it. So,

all right. What else we got here? >> Hey, Theo, it's Colin. Hey, Mana. It's. uh December 1st right now. And you know, it's it's supposed to be the holidays. where everyone's all happy and [ __ ] but. man, every year, this time of year is. the worst for me. Like, everyone's. supposed to be happy during Christmas, and I'm just sitting there trying to. just pretend to be happy, but it's. tough. I don't know. And I got my. birthday this month, too. And like.

everything is supposed to be good, but. it's always just a rough time of year. I. was curious if you ever dealt with that. or had any advice. Appreciate you. Gang. gang. >> Yeah, man. Thanks for the call. Uh, was. it Dylan? Was it him on. >> a It's Colin. >> Colin, sorry. Um, yeah, dude. Dude, there's sometimes when I get on. here to do this uh podcast where I am. not as happy as I. uh you know this is the like this is me.

like kind of not maximum happiness but. there's times where I sit down and I. think about stuff and sometimes I want. to like I I don't want to be happy. Um, you know, I want to either be more. earnest or I want to be more like share. things that I'm scared of or fear. You. know, I I think there's times like that. Um, there's times where I feel some. responsibility like, oh well, I can't I. can't have people listen in and then. then they're listening to some guy be.

sad. That's shitty. You know, what's. even going on then? Um, and not not in a. heavy way, but yeah, it's like uh. yeah, I mean, yeah, sometimes I'm scared. I'm scared. about stuff, you know, I'm scared what, you know, if everything's going to be okay. That's. like a big fear that's always with me, you know, and I don't even know where it. came from. It it's been there my whole.

life. Is everything going to be okay? Think about that fear, right? I'm just. thinking about it out loud. I've never. really even thought about it. What an. insane fear. I've had it since I was a. kid. Is everything going to be okay? I've never said it vocally out like this. before. That's an impossible thing for. somebody to carry around. That's. realistic, right? Of course, everything. isn't going to be okay. But to think that there's some kid that. is like, you know, that as a kid or as a.

young man, I was walking with that all. the time and then it still sometimes is. like a um it's like a bead of sweat. that, you know, uh kind of shows up on. the on the shower door of my brain. sometimes, you know. Um. yeah, is everything going to be? [ __ ]. [ __ ] no it's not. Some things will, some. things, but it just, you know, that weird feeling,

you know, that's something that's like. um. oh, I have to do something. What do I. need to do? That's always been something. that's a thing that's one of my. repetitive things. What do I have to do? You know, like if people are over, I'm. always like, is too hot? It's too cold. I'm st like I can't. There's no like, are you hot or cold? 50 seconds later, I'm like, "Hey, I know we've been. talking for another minute or two. You. getting any hotter or colder?" It's like. I can't, you know, it's tough for me to let things be.

It's tough for me to let things be. It's. tough for me not to take an action to do. something. because that's scary. It's scary for me. If I let things be, then it's out of my control. And that's scary. And the truth is though, a lot of it's. so much of it's out of my control. anyway.

So much of it's out of my control. Um, [sighs]. yeah. And I think it's turning that over. that if I can if I can. And I'm not pestering myself, but if I. could get more comfortable. with when that feeling comes up of like, okay, I need to do something. I need to. say I need to I need to ask somebody if. they're hot or cold. If I got to be. like, you know, just God's got this. I'm.

just going to have faith that. everything's okay. I'm just going to have faith that. everything's okay. Yeah, if I could just lean into some. more of those moments of just I don't. have to affect this. Anyway, I'm talking about me, man. Let. me listen to your uh question again so I. can try to uh talk about you and I'm. sorry I'm sitting there talking about. myself. Jesus.

>> No, like everyone's supposed to be happy. during Christmas and I'm just sitting. there trying to just pretend to be. happy, but it's tough. I don't. you know, and I got my birthday this. month, too. And like everything is. supposed to be good, but it's always. just a rough time of year. I was curious. if you ever dealt with that or have any. advice. Appreciate you, Gang. >> Um, yeah, I think it's it's an okay time to. take a nap. First of all, let me say.

that. It's an okay time not to fight the. wars that are out there. It's an okay. time not to hit some man or woman who's. dressed up like an elf on a lime scooter. or whatever who's been drinking. It's an. okay not to to hit them with your car. [snorts] It's an okay time not to engage. in too much of the crazy stuff. I mean, this is a time of year when a lot of. animals go hibernate. You know, a lot of animals go hibernate. Even the sun isn't even out that long. So, for us to be like, "Hey,

it's kind of a lot. It's kind of going. against nature. So, I think it's okay to take some time. for yourself and like not feel the. overwhelming sense of I have to do. everything. Like earlier today, I was. like, "Oh, well, people are probably. going to Christmas parties. Nobody's. invited me to any Christmas parties, right?" I was thinking of that and my. mom invited me to a Christmas party at. her house and my friend Bo invited me to. a Christmas party with his family around. Christmas, but I hadn't gotten invited. to anything like, you know, I'm home.

it's before Christmas, blah blah blah. So, and that's okay. But I I I I I I. need to just be like, "Hey, this is a. great time for me to read, to work on um. you know, my step work that I'm going. through again." um to uh. to enjoy some time with myself, not you. know not to feel that FOMO, not to feel. this overwhelming sense of like well let. me have a let me control let me you know.

um. I wonder why I don't feel at peace very. much because I don't let myself be at. peace very much. Um, but for your. instance, sorry, I'm still [ __ ]. talking about me, dude. Bro, stop. Um, but I think there's two sides to this. I. was talking to my friend Chris today and. he was saying he was feeling kind of. down. And I noticed this. If I do those. things, like I can isolate during the. holidays as well, and that's not good. Um during Thanksgiving, I kind of showed.

up to my family and I didn't have the. best attitude and uh. and and I I I knew in my head what was. going on. and there were moments I was able to. work through it and show [snorts] up and. do okay. Um I think I wanted to spend. some alone time with my mom. I didn't. get that. Um, and so when things weren't. going kind of exactly the way I wanted. them, I turn, you know, this side of me. comes out that's, um, uh,

you know what, I I'll cut myself off. from people. It'll be like, oh, things aren't kind of. perfect here right now. Then I'm not. going to apply myself to this situation. I'm going to cut my like my emotions, my. feeling. I'm like, I'm going to kind of. keep everything away from you. you know, things aren't exactly the way I want. them. I'm going to I'm going to keep. myself from you, right? And really, I'm just hurting. myself, but also I'm kind of in I I can. be kind of like not helping the. environment around me. Um,

but that's been a thing of mine over the. years. I realized like uh. a way that um. that I'll try to hurt somebody's. feelings is I'll try to keep I'll keep. my I'll keep my love away from them, which is kind of crazy to say out loud, I think. And I don't know exactly what I. mean by it, but I've noticed it at. times, like, oh, this isn't kind of the way I. want it, then uh then you're not going.

to get any of me. Um, I I can kind of know what I'm saying, but part of me doesn't know exactly what. I'm saying. But, uh, does that make any. sense, Trevan, you think? >> Yeah. It's just like you close close. off, you know? >> Yeah. I'll close off. And sometimes it's. there's only I'll only be home for a. certain amount of time or I'll only be. around family a certain amount of time. So, there's not a ton of time for really. us to have time together. And even in. those moments, it's like, I'll shut down.

here, you know? Uh, so yeah, I can tend to kind of get. that way. But brother, I think, yeah, don't expect too much out of the. holidays. Try not to put too much. pressure on yourself. Um, but try to. bring some joy to yourself. Go do. something that finds you some joy. Do. not isolate too much. because you also can bring joy to other. people. You know, that's the worst part. about when I shut down is what I'm. really missing out on. It's not really. me. Like, it's just like if I show up in.

a good mood, I can help somebody else. have a nice time. You know, maybe I can play with the baby. or I can see my friend's dog or I can, you know, tell my sister she has a nice. shirt or that she looks pretty or, you. know, I can do little things. I can sit. and play a game. I can do something. I. can talk to someone else at the family. get together that I don't know. It's. like it's like if I don't shut down. If. I don't get in that selfish way, then I. can do I can just be a part of what is.

of the best situation. Not for me, but. just what's the best possible outcome is. that I just try to show up with a smile. on my face. How can I help? Um. and uh but yeah, sometimes you have to. pretend to be happy, man. Here's the. thing. You pretend to be happy, eventually you will be. That's the. craziest part. You pretend to be happy, you will. eventually you will be. Um yeah, I think.

I I I think you know I think anything if. you do it, you will you're like um. actions first. People think you have to. like uh think it first. No. Um. you can't think yourself into right. actions, but you can act yourself into. right thinkings. Can you look that up. for me on on uh Perplexity, please? Who is one of our sponsors? Thank you, Perplexity, for helping us figure stuff. out. Yeah, many people can act themselves.

into good thinking because behavior. often reshapes beliefs, emotions, and. self-image over time. So, yeah, I think. it's like, yeah, you don't have to. pretend that everybody's happy. Maybe. you're not the happiest guy. You don't. have to be Santa. You could be one of. his elves that smokes behind the wood. shop. You don't have to be the best guy. You know what about go watch Bad Santa. Just do a gateway package into some sort. of holiday vibes. You know, watch Miracle on 34th Street, but then watch Nightmare on Elm Street.

You know what I'm saying? Do both. You. can do, you know what I'm saying? There's a mix of everything out there. But I do believe that if you show up. and you find a place to show up that. feels kind of comfortable to you to your. birthday, whoever invites you over for. your birthday or if somebody calls you, if you try to show up with the best. parts of you, even if you have to. pretend that um I think the best parts. of you uh. will meet those pretendings halfway. I.

believe that. I don't that makes any. sense, but but yeah, I think you can act. your way into feeling better, but you. don't have to, dude. Yeah, Christmas. gets on a lot of people's nerves, especially this time of year. It's. hectic. There's so many things to do. So, don't be hard on yourself. Don't. over isolate. It's a balance. I think. everything is. Um, but yeah, I. appreciate you calling, dude. I. appreciate you because yeah, it's like. [ __ ] sometimes we all have to pretend. to be happy. Um, but I think that's a lot of things.

You know, I have friends in marriages. that tell me, it's like, dude, every day. you wake up, you don't want to be. married, but on some of those days, you. just pretend that you want to be. married, you know, and then you get to. the days where you do want to be. So, I. don't know. I know I've just rambled a. lot about me and I didn't help you at. all or not that I was trying to help you. or that I don't I don't know [ __ ] Look. at me. But [ __ ] dude. What are we going. to do about America? That's really. that's a big question, you know. Um, but. blessings to you, dude. Happy holidays.

and uh yeah, thanks for just being here. and letting me think with you out loud. Love you, brother. Um, and I'm going to. send you a Christmas a birthday present. So, we'll uh reach out and send you a. birthday present. And um. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I hope if you don't have. if you don't join a bunch of other. people and feel great there that we can. find ways to feel great with ourselves. good enough. You know, that's the even. crazier trick.

It's like cuz sometimes I'm using going. out to see people and do things just to. get away from myself, which is crazy. Just to get away from those moments. where it's me and me. standing there in the living room of my. head. Um, this episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. The holidays are a time of traditions. Some people have many in their family. and some have none or they're just. beginning their own. Now's the time to.

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That's betterhp.com. What's another call? You want to pick. one off here, Trevan, that you like? There's a couple. We get a list usually. of calls here. And so, >> what about a follow up on twins advice. for twins from the uh Baby Me episode? >> Oh, that's a great call. That's a great. call. Good call. Um, yeah, that's a. great idea because we just had somebody. call in uh who was having twins and I. don't believe in them, but this uh.

person has some twin advice. Here we go. Yeah, my name is Michael from. Indianapolis. I'm calling in hopes to. respond to Cage. He called in on your. last fellow episode about having twins. and needing some advice. And uh. I guess now you know this can go to Cage. and uh and Riley now. Uh congratulations. to all y'all, man. Kids are rough, man. They're the best hell that you could. ever willingly put yourself through. >> Wow. The best hell you could willingly.

put yourself through. That's a beautiful. statement. Let's hear more. Thank you so. much. >> And I mean that. uh they're also the most rewarding thing. that you could ever do. And you just got. to if I could ever give anybody some. advice, man, it is just to you got to. take care of yourself. The old lady has. to take care of herself. You guys got to. take care of each other. Can't pour from. an empty cup. So if you don't take care. of yourself, you can't take care of her. She don't take care of herself, she. can't take care of you. You got to take. care of yourselves. You can't take care. of each other. In turn, you can't take.

care of your kids. But I'm I am serious. It's like you guys have to take care of. yourselves. That's the main thing, man. You got to take some adult time. Be. there, be a dad, be a mom, be active, be. present. But man, if you got parents. that won't mind, you know, watching the. kid overnight one time, take advantage. of that, man. Go party, go make some. crazy decisions. As long as you can go. to work Monday, clock in and be a dad. again, then, man, take care of yourself, man. That's my biggest advice. >> Amen.

Yeah, that's true. on. We're like, "Yeah, how much how can I do all these. things?" And I'm Yeah, I show up, you know, I show up to fix a. car with no tools. cuz I ain't take care of my own [ __ ]. I'm over there pretending, just making a. no using my hand, just making a wrench. noise while I use it. Um, take care of yourself first and you. can take care of those twins. I love. that. Uh, here's another one right here. Let's see what came in.

>> Hey Theo, this is Cody from Florida. >> Hey Cody, thanks for calling brother. How are you today? Onward. >> And uh. I just heard you you're big on the. topics with having a porn addiction and. being an alcoholic. I know you did that. 12step program and honestly man those. two things are the biggest problems of.

my life. I just had my girlfriend of over a year. break up with me because of a porn. addiction which that is just so. embarrassing. And I I I can't even like. think of myself like as a normal person. anymore. I think I I feel so. embarrassed. I I just I feel such like a. like a weak man. and. the alcohol problem and that.

I want to know what you did to to help. yourself with both of those addictions. mainly mainly the porn addiction to be. honest and that's that's just that's so. embarrassing to say but. >> hey brother thanks uh for ringing us up. here and um yeah the only things I know. that have helped me with any type of. addiction are uh 12step recovery. programs. Um, I know some people use different. programs or different things. Um, people.

have used rehab, detox. I know that some. people need those sorts of things. Um, I. haven't used I've used like some. short-term rehab. Um, I've not had to use long-term rehab or. detox in my life yet. Um, and yeah, those are the things that I. know. There's SLAA meetings, sex and. love addiction online that you can find. that you can just attend on Zoom.

They're great places to start and uh. local AA meetings. And I would go to. three meetings, three different ones. until you see what you think about it. Uh, but those programs I know work. Um, there's no lifelong cure. Uh it's a. daily it's a daily uh reprieve. and it works if you work it. I believe. those things and it will get better. It. will get better if you go and uh work. work on it,

you know. Um. yeah, nothing changes if nothing. changes. We've talked about that before. Uh. and that's the truth. I thought things would change in my life. if they I'll just grow out of or this. will happen or this p someone will come. along. I'll move somewhere and this. No, it's. it doesn't. often not none of those things help. I'm. not saying never.

for me for me. Um, yeah, but I'm sorry that that you're. dealing with that loss. But also, in a. way, I'm glad that you are realizing. this and you can get a hold of it now. because there's no time like the. present, man. And what a great gift to. ourselves to try and take care of. ourselves better. So, amen to you, brother. I love you. And, uh, yeah, thanks for calling and letting us think. about that. Um, let's do this call right here. It might. be time to get on out of here.

And I know this episode maybe was a. little bit heavy. Dude, was this episode. too heavy, Trevan? >> I don't think so. We got there. >> Okay. Yeah, my my my nervous system is. getting a little bit burnt out. Um, so, uh, here we go. >> Hi, Theo. I'm calling from Ohio and I. just want to let you know I have reached. one year sober. Um, it has been the. worst ride possible, but I finally did. it. Um, and I'm just calling to let you.

know you and you have been a huge part. of my journey in every way possible. I. remember being just [ __ ] up on drugs. and alcohol watching your show and now I. watch your show sober without [ __ ]. drugs and alcohol. and I still laugh like I used [laughter]. to. It is the best thing ever. So, I. just want to say thank you. And um do. you have any advice for the other people.

that are trying to get sober? Um you. know, just spread the love and keep. going. Thank you, Theo. Bye. >> Amen. Congratulations. That's awesome. Thanks so much for sharing that message, you know. Uh. yeah, and I'm I feel lucky to be part of. a podcast that um that we're able to. even talk about that kind of stuff or. that you're able to call in and share. that message. And congratulations, one. year. That's crazy. That's beautiful. And uh [ __ ] your.

voice was so loud in the beginning. >> Hi, Theo. >> It almost got on my damn nerves. [laughter] That's how crazy it was. I'm. like, dang, she's doing so good. She's. lit up. Lit [snorts] up by the Lord and. the feelings of um of uh of selfworth. And so that's a beautiful um. that is beautiful to hear around this. time of year and anytime man you hear. somebody uh feel proud of themselves.

that's beautiful and I'm glad that this. show could just be a part of something. and that's one of the things that makes. me so lucky like just like even just. being a part of this show it's like what. could God use us to do if we put. ourselves in the best situation? Um, you know, and can I meet God halfway? Uh, and I know I know we've talked about. that a little bit before. Uh, and not that God isn't all the way. I.

know he's all the way there. It's But. I'm just saying like, yeah, just the. beauty of what God can use all of us for. if we make ourselves um. an available tool, you know, kind of. So, but man, what a time of year to um. [snorts]. I know this was a lot of thinking about. me this episode. I'm sorry about that. Look at that guy on that shirt. That. little Rick Shaw donkey right there. That little [ __ ].

lesbian school teacher. I love him, baby. Ah, yeah. Yeah. We got We're here, you know. We're. here. We're alive. We got a shot. We got a shot. We can figure it out. We. can't do it alone. And uh. yeah. And what did I start talking. about? What things do we want to what if.

I wanted to yell? If I wanted to just. say something to the heavens, maybe. that's it, you know, just like, man, what could I what could I be used for? you know, if I can, you know, just. let me be. I don't know what could I be used for if. I'm if I. maybe it's just if I just ask God, you. know, you know, and that's one of the morning.

prayers that uh is part of my routine. right now is just asking God to uh use. me and build with me as thou wilt. Um, yeah. But yeah, there's so much out there, you. know. There's so much out there. Um, anyway, I don't know if I've did we. cover everything. You think, Trevan? Are. we okay? >> Yeah, we're good. >> Okay, man. Um, thank you so much for. your help this year, Trevan.

>> Anytime. >> And, uh, yeah, we do our best. We're trying. It's. just another day, right? We don't have. to save the world today. [sighs] That feels good. Doesn't it feel. good to know that? Um, okay. Who knows? I love you guys. Thanks for being uh a part of the. podcast today. Thanks for your calls. As. always, the hotline 985-6649503. Congratulations to the young lady.

getting a year sober. To the guy whose. birthday is coming up. We love you, bro. Enjoy your holidays. make them enjoyable. for you somehow. It is in the end it's. our somewhat our responsibility to find. joy. Okay. Anyway, I'm getting chatty. Love. you guys. Um you guys be good to. yourselves. Uh you deserve it. Thank you. so much for helping with the uh jersey. auction. We raised almost $40,000 to um. go to the Cumberland Heights Recovery. Center. It's going to help subsidize uh. recovery for individuals over there. and.

um and for the um the show with Mike Row. where we we're helping people buy stuff. from their fellow Americans. Um anyway, whatever. Uh all right, you guys have a. wonderful one and um love you guys and. uh yeah, talk to you later. Bye. I must be corner stone. Oh, but when I reach that ground,

[music] I'll share this piece of mind I. found. I can feel it in my bones, but it's going to take.