Suga Sean O'Malley | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #282

today's guest is undefeated in the MMA. fighting he is a one-of-a-kind type of. sensation he's here with his coach Tim. Welch who you'll also hear on the mic in. the back it's it's exciting to sit down. with him the sugar show himself mr. Sean. O'Malley. [Music].

[Music]. [Applause]. yeah but it started for us is happy now. you know I was a big Dustin Poirier fan. I still Emily doesn't play and so he. like he was like the first like dream. guest we ever had I was like dude what. if we could get Dustin Poirier on and. like so then went eventually he came in.

and so then that's how slowly even. started getting into UFC and then Rogan. knew I was a fan and so he took me to. win Dustin and max Holloway fought it. was a you're there live yeah bro ever. been to yeah who's the co-main remember. Israel and Gastelum that might be one of. the sickest fight ever. but Dustin burrs max might be up there. too oh it was crazy man and I was like.

bro I don't even like I don't even know. what happened to me I turn like. something came out of me I think this. inner part of me that always had been. like afraid to fight just came out of me. as like a fan and so then slowly I've. like really started to get into the. sport more to you know it's a [ __ ]. crazy sport did I used to be afraid to. watch it dude I literally told on my dad. because my mom was white or my I told on. my dad told my mom because my dad is. watching I was probably 13 14 and I like. it was a bad thing I'm like wow I.

thought it was [ __ ] up yeah how do. they take those shots to the rib. you're like mom dad look what dad's. doing I'm like dad watch out cuz I. wanted to watch them and I was like. literally disgusted by eating and stuff. I'm just like this skinny little [ __ ]. kid never thought about fighting at all. were you um what are your parents are we. going yeah oh good what are your uh what. are your parents do my mom she's retired. basically now but she was a nurse and my.

dad is a detective know so i growing up. was terrified of marijuana and we lived. in helena montana tiny [ __ ] place. yeah and so if anybody was smoking weed. i looked at it like they were doing meth. in my head right like I was like. associating it with the same same stuff. yeah plant so so that my dad was. detected obviously [ __ ] love. marijuana now but it was crazy cuz I. just looked at it so bad no when I moved. to Phoenix it kind of like seems like. come on try it right so I tried it I'm. like. your coach yeah coach coach you in the.

back but it was because he thought it. would be good for me cuz I'm a [ __ ]. spaz everyone 10 p.m. we trained twice. five hours and I was like let's go do. something hard he's like the [ __ ] up. take a hit I would just take him oh. that's pretty nice be able to chill for. a little bit so uh yeah my dad's a. detective he's retired now - he does. something I'm not sure what the [ __ ] he. does now but did he ever do any murders. and stuff like that even he he did it.

yeah he did he was in the for about 20. 20 years and he told me some [ __ ] up. stories well love murder bro murdered. like this guy got he was in a helicopter. and my dad was like him first on the. scene he like completely was splattered. all over the dash of the helicopter cuz. it ran into a mountain or some [ __ ] but. he would tell me some [ __ ] up [ __ ]. about like him having to interview guys. that were raping their daughters that. were in wheelchairs oh and that's the.

[ __ ] that he was like I [ __ ] hate. this job that's too much that's too much. and then and that wasn't just like one. time that's like numerous times just. having a bad face the devil like that. yeah you're looking right at that when. you talking to something like that. you're looking at the devil yeah sitting. there having those conversations and. then you and then think like after that. conversations later that day you're. probably running it through your mind. and thinking about like what the [ __ ]. there's people like this yeah sad ooh. and you see your mom was a nurse that's. a really loving job I feel like you have.

to be it takes a special type of person. to be a nurse yeah she was she was super. like caring and loving towards growing. up we had three there was three boys and. then my sister so yeah it was she was. super caring and loving she still is she. still treats me like I'm [ __ ] six. yeah because the other day like she. still sees me in a certain way which is. really weird because I moved to Phoenix. about six years ago and she still looks. at me as I come on that little SH I'm. her Shaunie a little boy because she I.

told her don't watch any of my podcasts. don't watch any of my vlogs and she. watched our blast vog road to USA 250 it. was like we put it out it was before I. got the call to fight Eddie and. that in the beginning episode as Tim was. pretending to stand up and give $50,000. stimulus check to everybody and I went. die [ __ ] and my mom watched the. beginning of that she called me crying I. didn't raise you like that that's evil. inside of you and I'm like she read in. the comments everyone should go Tim.

[ __ ] love you guys I'm like this is. her perspective of that like she just. sees it so much different she just still. sees me as that little boy right my. guess is just comedy that's this funny. stuff right they don't know yeah they. don't know sometimes like yeah like. things that were joking around about you. know like don't think it's super serious. I like toothache comedies fun because. you can push the buttons and make jokes. about stuff that you can't necessarily. you shouldn't almost yeah well that's. the funnest part food I'm lobbies not. comedian but when Tim and I and jxr hey.

hanging out we say some [ __ ] up [ __ ]. that's like well [ __ ] in the fat chicks. I'm not in fact you gotta have a thing. especially with the look but the end of. times coming dude I'm laying there next. to a bonebag. did you laying next to some girl that. doesn't have any skills yeah last the. end of times coming wrote and you have. to freaking hunt for to know [ __ ] eyes. look at 1 into 4 yeah we're trying to. [ __ ] see if there's any way we could.

score some chicks and down here in LA. hey I'm sure you know I've definitely. I've disappointed a lot of women in this. town I'm down at this point someone the. night yeah if you forgot to pay a. hundred but that's what say like if it. comes down to it's like okay this chick. to run for an hour not too far come core. I would hang out yeah oh yeah you could. find somebody effing Utley to hang out. for sure especially during these times. yeah I know that's extra to have the. mask off though that's the only yeah I. might keep going on just in case yeah.

it's 50 it's I know that I'm not joking. for a lot of women it's $50 more for no. mask Wow. so that's where we're at here yeah when. you look at like I was listening to one. of your interviews with uh with Ariel. Ariel Helwani and uh you talked about. instead of you said performing and in. instead of fighting just in a way in a. sentence you were using. do you think of it as performing do you. think of it as like I do.

I think of it as pure entertainment I've. never thought of fighting I've never. been able to like articulate it how to. say I never thought of fighting as. fighting I've always thought of it as a. sport plus entertainment and I'm just. gonna get really good at this skill. which happens to be fighting punching. kicking choking all the skills and then. go and perform you know and I always in. my head have a better skillset in this. guy so it's like a performance for me.

but it's still fighting it's hard it's. hard to explain it but yeah oh yeah. performing oh I could imagine it's hard. yeah but yeah because I'm watching some. of your fights and I'm like yeah it. seems like like some guys you're. watching them fight and it's it's a. fight. yours has this different element where. it's like like I always watch you. sometimes it seems like whenever you get. in the clinch like it's almost like it. bothers you a little because and there's.

just my perspective you know because. it's like oh this almost feels looks. tacky like I want to do the like it. doesn't you can't be as artistic when. you're in some of those environments. does it feel like that or is that um it. that comes down to strategy for me I'm. usually like longer almost every single. time I fight someone especially in my. weight class I'm gonna be longer I'm. gonna have the reach advantage so. getting in close and being in the clinch. is gonna be not necessarily a. disadvantage for me but it's not. necessarily where I want to be I want to. be at range right where I can hit people.

and they can't hit me if I'm keeping. somebody which is like a front kick to. their sternum if I'm landing that they. can't hit me you know if you watch my. fights I throw a lot of [ __ ] teeth. kiss Oh your legs like seem like they. got arms and yeah they don't might is my. hands are just many kicks so once we're. in the clinch it gives them an. opportunity to grab my hips get a body. lock take me down but we've been working. on so much jujitsu and I and I'm getting. called out by these wrestlers and and I. don't usually I don't read comments and. get offended they're like oh you need a.

[ __ ] fight a wrestler to prove you're. real but I do a lot of jiu-jitsu a lot. of ground training I do way more. grappling than I do anything so I'm. gonna [ __ ] choke these [ __ ]. like once I get someone that can. actually take me down like I guarantee. the hose etiquette I thought before. Eddie his goal his jiu-jitsu tattooed. across his chest his goal was to take. the time he means he was trying to take. me down but you right exactly forever. you better really mean it but the thing. is is like these guys think oh they're. just good we got to take him down grab. good luck grab and hold me my distance.

and my footwork and my speed is you know. that's something we work on and. understanding where I'm at on the cage. it's not easy to take me now it's not. easy to grab me without getting [ __ ]. punched in the jaw or need or hit in the. stomach so so these people that I think. that the way to beat me hey let's just. take him down right that's not a good. game plan right and it's cuz it's not. easy you're like a dangerous water man. when I'm watching you out there I'm like. damn this guy it's almost like somebody. like you have a puppeteer almost and the.

person who's doing it is like definitely. been on some speed balls I could've been. up for a couple days you know I feel. like when I'm in there and I've said. this in other interviews like I feel. like I just let go of all thought and. everything and I feel like my higher. self takes control of me in there so I. do I am like a [ __ ] puppet to my. Higher Self and just doing everything. that I'm just doing whatever that. puppets making me do that's right well. you feel coachable like do you feel is. it do you find it's harder to be like.

take like pointers from coaches and. stuff as you grow cuz I mean you're like. oh no you're literally on like a rocket. ship right now like this is a unique. time in your life. does it get because your own voice gets. big you know because people tell you. it's big I see your work and it's a-you. know you're you're undefeated you're. like okay I know what I'm doing and does. that make it tough to to hear coaches as. much not at all because like tankini o. gusto Mendez is our jiu-jitsu coach who. that's who Tim got his black belt under. and he's just won a TCC world's last.

year which is the biggest grappling. tournament and he's the best in that. weight class which is my weight class at. grappling I'm never gonna out learn him. there's none there's never gonna be a. time where I'm like I don't he can. always teach me forever and then for MMA. it's like Tim and I Tim knows my style. my striking my jujitsu better than. anyone he knows that like as well as I. know it so I try. when he says something like you can see. there's new I've watched all my fights. off [ __ ] thousands times there's. moments in the fight where you can hear.

Kim yell something from the cage and you. can see you'll see me do it the same. what he's yelling in because we have. code words for everything so in the. fight I'm super coach bomb soup I'm. trusting in him like he sees something. and I know I trust that that's gonna. work in there and it has so far but as. far as being outside the fighting like. okay it's time to Train I mean you could. answer that if I'm coachable I feel like. I take take it well yeah but super. [ __ ] smart you know and I don't look.

at and say hey you need to do this say. hey look at it from this perspective. what do you think he's like oh [ __ ] that. makes sense now I see that a little bit. so it's super [ __ ] coachable for sure. yeah what was it like whenever you guys. went over to Joe Rogan I know you're a. huge Joe Rogan fan you me too and I. remember the first time walking into. like his lair it's like I feel like for. me I felt like I walked into like like. where they wrote the Bible and my but. the Bible had like some crazy different. chapters like people were you know. people were [ __ ] arm wrestling and.

before you know eating [ __ ] albatross. nuggets and just doing wild [ __ ] you. know yeah that's what was y'all's. experience like when you guys went over. there I was nervous as [ __ ] me too I'm. like who in the night before I got this. Airbnb and I didn't look at it I'm like. two miles from Rogen's place I figure. it'll be a nice little place it's some. ghetto ass apartment audio studio one. bedroom one bed man it's like so Tim and. I are [ __ ] sleeping in that bed and.

I'm like under the top covers he's. it's a uncomfortable just greasy just. greasy in the box. haha pictures of the apartment or of. like the lady and her family that lived. in there and it was just [ __ ] awkward. it wasn't awkward it was and it was like. weird to be in there cuz it didn't feel. clean yeah and then we so we got. caffeined up and went into Rogen's and. uh I was [ __ ] nervous I'm like I know. his podcasts are long three hours he's. [ __ ] super smart I feel like half. [ __ ] half the time yeah especially.

around you know my god but I felt like. it got it went good yet our - I feel. complete. li I feel like one of those people they. got molested in the wheelchair honestly. brah no offense but like I feel at our -. I don't know how he keeps going man yeah. it's impressive and he never has to get. up and pee I I think I remember if I got. up and peed but I remember having to pee. but you always just [ __ ] toughs it. out yeah I get afraid to pee him in. there like I was like yeah I was yeah I.

was nervous like what do I do this drink. it like what do i do like yeah we're. supposed to be yeah what would you okay. - yeah Rogen's the [ __ ] man it's. crazy how how influential he is nowadays. - yeah sweet though like all the guests. you have on there you can have funny ass. [ __ ] on there really really. smart. [ __ ] on there or high level. athletes and he can relate with all of. them and talk and have a good. conversation smart smart [ __ ]. it's sweet that we are able to listen to. him like that oh yeah man yeah he's so.

curious it's like um at a time it's. funny at a time where where people kind. of hurry to make choices and decisions. and hurry through everything it feels. like he goes long form and he's so. curious like he genuinely like wants to. know yeah and I think it helps the rest. of us that you know learned yeah for. sure I've learned a ton listening to his. podcast for though over the years yeah. even like like I know I don't know what. the [ __ ] I don't know about politics I.

don't know what a Republican I don't. know I don't know far I don't only. politics I ever [ __ ] they ever heard. of his from you know Rogen's yeah pretty. interesting listening to their. perspectives on that yeah when he had. Bernie Sanders on I thought it was real. interesting cuz I didn't know exactly. like I mean you hear all these like. little clips online and stuff but to get. like a real idea of sitting down and. listening to somebody you get to know. them a little better you know for sure I. thought I was a lot more real yeah for. sure I think that's how most those talk. should go like the important ones yeah.

long conversations like that instead of. like they say 30 seconds commercial I'm. crazy do WOM when you see this picture. yourself like we had a picture you when. you were up on Rogan that was like two. years ago. yeah is that interesting to look back at. that guy's it just seemed like the same. dude yeah I feel like for me you should. always look. a couple years a long time to be able to. grow mentally I feel like I learned. because that was right after my fight. where I broke my foot right so I was I.

was learning a lot at that time I was. kind of I was on that I was on that. [ __ ] rocket ship that I'm on now I. was blowing up my one eye I want my. debut I just won won my second fighting. UFC I broke my foot got a lot of. attention because I fought with broken. foot for three minutes ended up winning. and I don't think and your suspension. came after that yeah right right after. July [ __ ] I don't remember all that time.

feels like is so um yeah I think I got. suspended after that which was another. two years at out and it was just [ __ ]. crazy that whole that whole from the. time I broke my foot until that last. fight against Jose was it was over a. little over two years and it was just so. much I went through two surgeries was. was on the rogue and went through two. suspensions yeah yeah that was a long. two years but I feel like I learned so. much about about myself and I'm just.

like way more grateful for what I had. going through all that stuff yeah I. could imagine that sitting out and. watching everything go on and just. thinking okay where would I be in this. would I be in this fight right here like. yeah was there a fighter during that. time you're like oh that guy's taking my. place well I was supposed to fight a. supposed to fight El techo the kid I. knocked out on March 7th I supposed to. fight him got suspended and then my. suspension was up and then I'm supposed.

to fight Chito and I got suspended again. so I was like [ __ ] watching these guys. fight and I'm supposed to be fighting. you guys but I did like I said I got. those two surgeries which made me way. more of an athlete like I felt like I. needed those I had a torn labrum in my. hip button both my UFC fights both my. first and second UFC fight I had the. torn labrum so is it was affecting my. performance a lot so I was able to get. healthy and I was able to do a lot of. jiu-jitsu like really commit my entire.

life to jiu-jitsu and getting good where. I was lacking like that's where someone. was gonna beat me. years ago as if they took me down and. they could lay on me now I don't feel. like someone could do that yeah so I'm. looking back at it it was the best thing. that happened I was able to really. commit to jiu-jitsu and get a strength. and conditioning program the fight. against Andre I was walking around 149. probably like heaviest one friend the. fighting is El techo I was walk around. 157 158 so I was able to put on a lot of. muscle that was like [ __ ] not just. muscle to where I'm like God I'm jacked.

but muscle in all the right places my. legs my everything was we're we're. training lifting for MMA Brandon Harris. my strength and conditioning coaches the. [ __ ] man weight like we were lifting. for MMA so it's perfect do you feel is. there a weight that you really feel the. best that you feel like you're still. learning it because I mean even at your. age you're still kind of your body still. kind of adjusted I mean I'm 40 I'm older. so it's like you know I know that my. body kind of goes through some things. where you know sometimes it feels like. oh it's pretty hype and sometimes it.

feels like okay I'm still kind of. figuring it out yeah I hired this guy. named Dan Garner's on nutritionist we I. got my [ __ ] tested my piss tested my. saliva tested jeeps got everything. tested and figured out what causes would. you figure out your [ __ ] high as [ __ ]. [ __ ] in this little container and ship. Italy Mike it was weird. yeah but I got all that stuff tested so. I can figure out what causes. inflammation in my body and what what. foods do really well so I got my diet. dialed the [ __ ] in like perfect I'm.

eating perfect in camp and I'm feeling. like a [ __ ] machine on it's crazy. when you eat perfect those little. injuries that you have in your wrist or. your knee or your back tight those. little injuries go away they're not. there anymore there's no more. inflammation in my body cuz I'm eating. the right food so with the my food on. point like my diets [ __ ] perfect my. what my weight cut was good the strength. and conditioning and then my MMA. training I'm like I'm everything's at. such a high level as far as my coaches. mm-hmm that I'm just destined to be.

[ __ ] great with everyone around me. right being a package yeah do you feel. um do you feel like I know you just got. off of a fight do you and I heard you. talking about like you know you don't. have a manager right right and I don't. have a manager right like it's one way. that I've. my own business and there's things that. I like about it there's moments where I. get scared where it's kind of like okay. what do I do in this instance a little. bit like this is where I would have an. extra layer of protection to talk to. someone I'll have to make those calls.

and stuff what's that experience kind of. been like for you not having one yeah. for me I was like I think a lot of. fighters are fooled I'm like you guys. can't do this you guys are some fighters. give 20% of their purse they make. $100,000 they're given 20,000 asker. their manager yeah you know mine was. only 10% right but still I'm like I'm. gonna give 10% of my manager because he. signed a couple emails. it was weird negotiated my contractor do. UFC when I was the one that was sitting. there talking to the UFC and he was.

sitting next we didn't say [ __ ] didn't. say a word and I'm sitting there talking. so I had to pay him you know a lot of. money to get out of the contract but it. was worth it and as far as dealing with. those things you know my dad's helped me. out a lot nice I have a lawyer to look. over contract perfect yeah um and then I. have I have other people that I can hit. up if I need to that are in the industry. - them yeah so yeah that's a big thing. is how do I get through this moment like. what would you do here exactly so that's. that's nice.

and just not burning bridges anywhere. just always having good relationships. with so many people to be able to ask it. is nice but you know I'm getting. messages from other fighters but hey you. have a manager what's going on Mike dude. if you can sit down like i sat down with. UFC Sean Shelby and we talked he's like. I there's some fighters I can't talk to. I'd have to have that middle person. because if I tell them hey you're not. worth this this why and they get go I am. it did I'm like okay I want me and you. just sit down be fair talk to me like. I'm my my own manager don't talk to me.

like I'm the fighter right let's be. [ __ ] fair I don't see why that's so. hard but I know they're trying to pay me. the least amount of money throw out. there and fight and I'm trying to make. myself the most amount of money let's. meet in the middle and be [ __ ] fair. and I think we're getting there i sat. down with UFC after my last fight we. didn't have a written out contract in. numbers but we agreed like okay this. this should be fair so it's getting done. and it feels good to be like knowing I'm. in charge of this [ __ ]. feels good who were guys that you can.

reach out to you feel like like are. there guys out there if you need. suggestions as for negotiate in the. contract yeah or just yeah that kind of. stuff like do you have kind of mentors. within the business you feel like I feel. like um for for managing sponsorship. contracts I have a couple people that. I'm working with right now without. signing a contract with them just so I. can ask them they can help me get. conduct but when it comes to just fine I. feel like I haven't had to reach out to.

anybody but if I did I feel like I could. reach out to a couple people and even if. they're like Nam I can't help you like. even Chael Sonnen like this [ __ ]. knows a lot of [ __ ] I have his number. i've text him a couple times if i was. like i don't know what to do maybe I. asked jail yeah the [ __ ] knows a. lot I haven't reached out to him. personally for anything really yet and. if I have to some day maybe I will but. even Anthony Smith's and ufc's yeah he's. a great guy he met her I was on the. phone with him doing a pod care power. need anything or what happening.

questions reach out let me know guys. like that and then obviously I have a. bunch of friends at the UFC but I feel. like I'm doing good right now and I'm. taking care of what needs to be taken. care of and if I'm happy with my. contract right that's a big thing yeah. you know if you're happier yeah yeah so. I think and so far it's going good yeah. yeah it's nice what uh what are you been. doing in your downtown like say you get. off of a fight like you know you got. maybe do you guys take a week off what. does that look like dude. you guys go to the water slaughter so.

you guys do water slots I can take a. week off that'd be crazy my I [ __ ]. enjoy training so much it's part of it's. just part of life I quite [ __ ] love. it mom a water slide sounds pretty fun. no but I don't know it's training just. part of life and I enjoy I enjoy it so. much we train you know when I'm in camp. I don't smoke so I enjoyed smoking. outside of camp whether I'm like last. Sunday was pro I got high [ __ ] yeah.

golden have your old key in jujitsu uh. like in the butter you mean ya know in. Aggie like the looking pajamas okay. I know you're talking about yeah I got. highest [ __ ] I took a puff off the. sativa joint Sunday and we did flow I. flowed for the most part my shins. [ __ ] bruised his [ __ ] and it hurts. even touch but I did jujitsu that's part. of the most fun practice I've ever had. in my life just flowing in Agee going. from positions to positions and I just.

really enjoy training jiu-jitsu I enjoy. hitting mitts and stuff but we we. usually hit mitts and really up the. striking aim camp and we have a fight. booked and sparring I don't really I. don't spar outside outside a camp just. pretty much do Jiu Jitsu and strength. and conditioning but what's your like. finishing move do you have like a. finishing I got a [ __ ] up I have more. finishing techniques than anybody ever. because I can stand both stances and do. everything from both stances and I have. I have just as much power my left hand.

is my right hand and my like. everything's just the sugar show who. would I sway it is it's [ __ ] sweet. and I thought I've had a lot of sweet. finishes I don't know if you've seen the. one where a head kick that do it yeah. that one that one's one of my all time. for that's what I was really looking for. I thought I was gonna catch Eddie with. that because his hands were so low I. thought I didn't catch him with. something spinning but he gotta fight. suck he's from was like the 1800 or. something you know he comes in like he's. got a shankster yeah yeah he was the. nicest [ __ ] - I legitimate Lee. felt bad knocking him out as he was.

fluttering down yeah yeah does that. happen sometimes is there times where. you get in there and because sometimes. like I'll even notice like just talking. to friends of mine who were in the sport. even just talking to friends money were. in the sport a while yeah I dropped him. with my left hand. [ __ ] yeah and now that was a couple. years ago but another walk off you think. you could have got you how you think if. they would have given him you know. left-handed think you see how guys ever.

pretend to be out I bet they do this. dink oh yeah no I killed him basically. no yeah they that I on kuta lava fight. verse Megaman he was kind of acting like. he was yeah and then they they stopped. the fight I believe that I believe that. it's probably scary getting rocked and. you're like I just get me out of here. yeah and you can't climb out of the top. right that'd be sweet if someone did. that me. [ __ ] sweet but you can't do don't put. a top on it no they they probably you.

know dqu or whatever but you ever. getting [ __ ] up dipping take cabbage I. am dipping now can you legally climb on. to the top and jump off a ladder you can. see I don't know if you can't grab. inside the fence but you could kind of. run up the cage probably but I see. that's another finish we got somewhere. locked in like is a cage kick like I. don't know Anthony Pettis hit that on. Benson but he didn't finish him there's.

not really been any sweet finishes. jumping off the cage right and and we. definitely could could land something. like that soon yeah because I want to. know how sweet the sugar show can get. yeah I wanna see much disappear no I. can't do that we're just getting started. like I'm 25 and and I gotta easily. another 10 years yeah you know but the. way I eat and the way I train and the. way I take care of my body I'm still. gonna be I think 36 37 38 I'm still. gonna be [ __ ] good yeah so I plan on.

being in this sport for a long time and. getting a lot of [ __ ] sweet finishes. so when you're out there we know. whenever you whenever you get in into. the end of the Octagon do you think. about like are you already kind of. thinking about the finish as the fight. goes on if it starts to feel comfortable. to you start to think like oh I can. finish this right now but I'm gonna wait. a minute does that ever kind of happen. or it's not like there's too much. intensity in that last fight when I hit. him with that body kick the spinning.

body kick I've dropped a lot of people. with that and that [ __ ] was so. tough he tried toughing it out if you. get have you been hitting a liver hard. he just paralyzed and bro I still. [ __ ] every time I eat a snicker my. [ __ ] body hurts eluded but he still. tried like after I landed that I'm. taking this dude out I knew I was gonna. take him out um because of that just. hitting someone that that shot is so. dangerous and so powerful and I've. landed it so many times and at that. point you start to feel like a hunter at.

that point yeah I felt like okay I'm. getting this dude out of here but I. wanted that spin kick I missed it barely. because I hit him with the left body. kick deep. and I threw a right right hook and it. landed hard and then I switched stances. and threw a spinning kick that's what I. wanted for the finish but that's in that. moment I knew I was about to get him out. of there that's why I spun know what I. tried to take his [ __ ] head off you. spun myself around but I knew I had him. hurt and I did think okay how am I gonna. finish this dude and that's why I wanted. that spin kick bad but then it missed. and I was like I don't want to gas.

myself out just dinked him yeah do you. um do you feel like like what do you. think there's something unique about. your body type or just like you did. you're some gift that makes it how. you're able to kind of flow the way that. you do like where do you think it comes. from do you think that it just comes. from training do you think like what do. you really feel like yeah I feel like I. was definitely gifted athletically just. being an athlete and being able to move.

the way I do um I played basketball. football soccer baseball growing up till. I was about 16 that's when I started. kickboxing but I think playing all those. sports made me like a pretty good. athlete and then once I started. kickboxing I would never really taught. hands up left in it like how to throw. properly yeah because we just go in spar. and I would yeah I think I would just. flow switch stances throw [ __ ] and it. would that just became my style just. switching stances and doing stuff like. that and then slowly kind of building on.

that but you know a lot of coaches were. like not listen you can't do that you're. gonna you're gonna get beat up you're. getting knocked out put your hands up. I've been told that literally since I. started fighting right like some people. get mad at me put your [ __ ] hands up. while I'm sparring but you like to do it. your way but I'm like my hand getting. hit right hands out that these 16-ounce. gloves are too [ __ ] heavy for my. little ass arms to pull up I'm gonna. keep him down low and that's just kind. of how I've developed my style and it's. worked out and then I think the work I.

put in is not just [ __ ] hard work but. I work smart yeah I have a hot tube at. home a cold plunge at home a sauna at. home a mat room where I can stretch a. foam roll I have all these tools to. where I can recover and in eat perfect. and then I go train hard the next day. and if I don't if I don't feel like I. can train hard I'll take that day off. and and I think Michael Bisping coach. said it takes confidence. to take a day off because when you have. a fight coming up that you're thinking. [ __ ] I gotta get in shape for that fight. I can't take today off right and I swear. a lot of people get hurt but I feel like.

there's no way to properly rest I'm so. in tune with my body and know what it. needs to do I know if I need a rest I. know if I can push so I think that that. helps me I get that confidence to get in. the cage and get into that flow state. where I'm just purely confident do you. feel like in y'all's aah I know we're. talking about kind of like moving weight. and stuff is there anybody that's kind. of like retired or anything to you. whenever you over the past few years. like oh [ __ ] I always hoping maybe.

somewhere in the back of my head one day. to get to fight that guy I think I think. Henry will uh I think that'll be a fight. someday could be a big fight so who did. the Cabaye arrow on hey I think that. could be a big fight some day and he got. really offended I don't know if you seen. my comment after my fight they asked me. about him retiring about his girlfriend. you mean I said he's 30 you got his. first girlfriend he got it really that. stung him really he posted on his. Instagram he went on Joe bro let's talk. about Sean O'Malley. I got a so on that poked at him so if.

someone's that insecure and easy to poke. at he's gonna want to fight me right but. if he's smart he probably won't because. he said well he needs to work on his. wrestling and juju I guess is getting. pretty good that's what I said on Rogan. but like I'm telling you people think oh. let's just take him down I'm gonna choke. them or I'm gonna I'm gonna do I'm gonna. submit him or I'm gonna get back up it's. not gonna be it's not gonna be like they. grab me take me down and fights over. Romney to get back up I'm gonna choke. him off my back elbow him it's not gonna. it's um I can I can scrap I can get.

scrappy down there so that could be a. big fight someday I don't think he's. done I think he's you know if you're in. your prime for I don't know it's for me. if I'm in my prime it's hard to put. yourself in that position because Nick. don't you retire as the king or do you. cuz I heard you talk about this like. you'd like to just keep going eat almost. rather lose Nick I try I gave him my. everything instead of no I'm too. insecure my egos too big to lose what do. you think is a weakness in his game I. mean I mean his that's him he's the. highest level you get that's a high.

level black belt MMA fighter he can box. he can wrestle I don't know about his. but when you're wrestling that. high-level he does almost need that much. jujitsu if he gets the takedown he can. control on the top posture up. ground-and-pound. he's [ __ ] really really good you. definitely the best bantamweight and. then he retired obvious was Cruz's last. fighter he had one yeah after that no. Christmas do you think that would be a. fight for United me what do you think. that I think I'd knock Cruz out - I. think his style just it I feel like I'd.

knock them all out so it's hard to say. but but if you had your choice like say. it's you know you get up in the morning. you have a full day of knocking people. out okay. who do you knock out for breakfast who. do you knock out for lunch and who do. you knock out for that tasty. okay late meal right throw a 4th one in. there - because I get snack you want to. get high knock out Cody for breakfast. okay my blood moving okay I'd probably. knock out TJ after that just brunch yeah. then I'd knock out Dominic and then I'd. me Henry in the face while he's shooting.

so I probably do those four and then. call it and then probably call out Conor. Wow yeah just fried midnight just for. fun and I hope you know [ __ ] that would. be [ __ ] that he's crazy huh oh I'm none. of that now when you see a guy like a. beat fight I mean he's aw you know one. thing that you know whenever he was. fighting whenever him and dust and. fought no I almost wished that and this. is look I admit I'm a newcomer to the. sport but almost wished that for a. certain amount of the fight they had to.

be on their feet and then a certain. amount of the fight that they didn't. have to be they couldn't be right that. one resting no yeah because that that. changes the whole game Dustin could. definitely got some of the best boxing. in the USC he's got really good [ __ ]. hands he's got a sweet fight coming up. first and hooker yeah that's gonna be a. great man but yeah and then when you. fight hubby bits it's just such a it's. like wearing like you know that blanket. they sell you on the internet all the. time it weighs like 80 pounds or. something yeah and it will wave you. alone yeah it's like somebody bought you. seven of those for Christmas dude yeah.

that would be a yeah that would be a. tough fight to even prepare for and just. yeah it's almost like you do have to. hide yourself under a bunch of rocks and. then just [ __ ] yeah just yeah that's. good that'd be a good way to train for. land or a bunch of rock getting up. [ __ ] dude yeah that's a tough fight I. was he almost had that guillotine that. guillotine was tight Habibi even said. that was [ __ ] tight yeah could you. imagine if you were to finish that that. would have been legendary that I've been. insane but I do think Justin gay Chi. does have a has a pretty good chance.

yeah compared to the you know the rest. of guys Habib's fought as far as their. wrestling accolades like Justin could. definitely give him a [ __ ] fight yeah. have you watched much of him I haven't. watched a ton of him I've watched maybe. three the recent ones yeah I guess let. me think um the one with Tony you. probably watch yep I definitely watch. that one that was unbelievable dude. that's all only fight you gotta watch. then [ __ ] love Justin gate see and I. looked you know what I actually looked. and made me really love both of him. really yeah because it made me respect.

Tony at like a just watching these guys. like you're talking to a guy like my big. thing when I was young was kind of. getting my ass beat yeah that's so cool. dude it is pretty cool like so dude like. I almost even when you when when you. were coming today I was like man I. almost want him to [ __ ] knock me out. yeah I saw I could like be a part of. that would be fun we could spar because. I sparred this kid from Canada I flew. him down he was one of my twitch. subscribers and we sparred we did three. threes Tim was the ref and it something. really cool I might you two it's [ __ ].

hilarious because he would never he. always talk [ __ ] to me about like in a. friendly way but right and it was just. fun as [ __ ] but he started jiu-jitsu. after that and he stayed consistent. which is cool awesome but it was a. perfect like I obviously know Mike no. Mike control and hey yeah we did at the. lab I saw I didn't beat him up bad to. where he left like hurt right like he. was puking tired and just like wow it. was it was one of the it was my favorite. fight I've ever been and it was so. [ __ ] funny I think deal might catch. you like with you sleeve yeah do might.

come in the right hand yeah I would. probably use my legs more we sure that. would be [ __ ] good ass video and it. would be fun it's good for I would like. to learn that because it yeah feels. almost to see what that's like like um. one thing that out that was awesome the. first time that Dustin came on he was. talking about like whenever you go. through a fight like whenever you get. through a fight like win or lose like. you learn there's like you learn. something about yourself at like a at a. level that we can't really duplicate. less it's that and.

2/3 I agree 100% that in weight cuts I. think everyone should go through a. weight cut in a fist fight like. kickboxing fight yeah the weight cuts. are so it's crazy what goes through your. mind when your does last a couple days. because kind of Native American doesn't. it what do you mean I got feel like the. weight cuts like I feel like when you. get to those last couple pounds I mean. dude I almost I didn't eat for six days. once and almost [ __ ] eat a dude at. Best Buy yeah almost [ __ ] business. fasting oh yeah I almost bit into a.

[ __ ] guy you know beautiful yeah I. mean I looked [ __ ] yeah like you. start to think of it dude like if the. power went out this dude yeah dad. especially you know some jujitsu I think. it that real kill you into you that's. what's so powerful about jujitsu really. know you're in the if you know you're in. a [ __ ] place and you got to eat right. you kill them eat them right yeah you. have that inner skill yes otherwise I. gotta like come here with a [ __ ] bat. or something yeah I got a sneak up I. gotta poison them as long as just learn.

a rear-naked choke a good clean one you. can sneak up on anybody and eat them. yeah but but those last few days through. a weight cut like Thursday morning and I. wake up like all right today's gonna. suck yeah. damn you're no water and hardly any food. but then you also what goes through my. mind also is like there's like the. people who suffer way worse and other. countries like that don't have food or. water like I can go shower. a clean water and people don't have that. so I it's always a good perspective to.

remind yourself like oh yeah life still. [ __ ] good you can you could look at. pictures of food on your phone yeah. you'll be great just being grateful for. the things that you yeah that we still. have but that's what's so good about. those weight cuts it can really show you. like teach you a lot and it's approach. and it's also like it's really never. thought about this but it's kind of like. a it's like I'm almost a red carpet up. to the fight it almost it's like a. respect because they're doing it as well. yeah so it's like both you guys are kind. of like yeah we're gonna condition. ourselves for this war we're about to go.

in [ __ ] yeah and the thing about weight. cutting too is like if this guy doesn't. know if he's not eating perfect like I. am and he's not doing exactly what he. needs to do like I got that [ __ ] down to. a sigh. I'm doing everything perfect and this. guy's not that's an advantage for me. going into the fight yeah and I feel. like if I feel like whoever I'm. Fighting's not gonna be doing the exact. thing that I'm doing and I feel like I'm. always gonna have a little advantage. there so it's good mentally going to the. fight too especially some guys like will.

weigh in before that fight when I felt. Jose. we weighed in Quinn Quinn garrison. genius yeah Jose Quinonez we walked. walked past the buffet or whatever and. these fighters just weighed in like an. hour ago and they're eating french toast. and syrup and just a bunch of [ __ ] I'm. gonna just. [ __ ] you all we [ __ ] Brendan he. probably did that [ __ ] oh really. definitely way dude at least one time he. [ __ ] showed me a rare stick of butter.

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the podcast we had a question that came. in here we got a young fella right here. that sent in a question for us let's get. into it right here this beautiful white. right here o bunch of beautiful whites. yeah. sup boys Brady from Asheville North. Carolina originally from Montana four of. six Sean my question for you is with Tim. being your best friend and your head. coach do you ever find it difficult. knowing when to turn off one of those.

relationships and have him be just your. coach or just your best friend so I got. Gang Gang buzzbuzz gang bruh Gang Gang. yeah that's a good question I get i. actually get asked that quite a bit on I. feel like even when it's coaching we're. still [ __ ] around. right but we know when it's when it's a. serious and hey this I don't know I feel. like we've never had an issue with that. to where it's like hey I'm coaching. right now we always know like the goals. world champ I want to be the best ever.

so both you guys have the same goal and. we have that goal in mind so we know. when when when to [ __ ] around and when. to turn it off and train and we've never. had an issue with that Tim now let's. hear your side of it yeah same [ __ ] as. soon as we get in the gym and it's time. to work it that were there to [ __ ]. work we still [ __ ] around but like said. that's the main goals be world champ. so once though once it's time to get. that session done we get it done yeah. recently like obviously you know like I. was watching some of your interviews and. stuff and there's times in it where I'm.

like oh Sean's very confident and then. I'm like Sean is very Flambeau you know. he's like he's a show you know they call. it the sugar show you know and I start. to get like okay I kind of see what's. going on here sometimes you say. something I'm like Jesus I can't believe. your buckets said that like I go through. all these range of emotions when I'm. watching your interviews right do you. know like um like do you start to and. and I noticed this myself as I started. to get more popularity like your ego is. a thing that lives inside and it's kind. of scary sometimes because it's like.

okay what's confidence. what's ego when when do I kind of turn. on one on in turn you know do you notice. some of that inside of yourself yeah. when I wear my sugar chain mm-hmm sugars. out that's my ego I know I know I know. when I need to do well I got the gym I. want people to treat me as Shawn I got. this and I feel like I do a really good. job about turning that off and being and. not being in my head like I'm I'm sugar. I'm the man the [ __ ] I knock people. out when I do interviews I kind of just.

I just I feel like when the confidence. the confidence is real it's true I think. people can tell when someone's really. confident when they're trying to fake it. um. that's probably my ego too but almost in. a healthy way. you know Unni I feel like you need that. if you want to get to the level that you. want to get to because it seems like you. not only want to be a champion you want. to be a I want to be one of the best to. ever fight like I think and I think with. my athletic ability and my skill set.

that's constantly improving I'm gonna be. I can definitely get there I think yeah. and it's always a battle ego in your. true self and in being like when I'm at. home with Danny my girl our relationship. is so good and it's like it's me it's. Shawn and Danny and if it's sugar and. Danny it collides almost in a way it's. hard to it's hard to talk about the ego. too you know it's hard to talk about. look it's interesting yeah it is. interesting but and then we listen to.

guys like Eckhart Tolle and in [ __ ]. holiday right yeah Ryan holiday the the. stoic books and who's the awareness guy. oh I think de Melo Anthony de Mello and. just listening to [ __ ] these smart. guys talked about and talked about. happiness and what's true happiness and. and stuff like that it's a trip to think. about my ego and then my my real self my. true self almost an understanding that I. have an ego and I can't beast I can't.

get stuck in that ego right after the. fight I gotta come back to show and when. I'm home right. at home and it's been with my dogs and. Danny I'm I gotta be Shawn I can't. constantly be that ego you get lost in. that [ __ ] world I lost in your ego and. then you're never yourself and then it's. like harder to bring back hard to come. back to your true self so I feel like I. do good about mixing it up and no one. when to be sugar and knowing when to be. Shawn Sugar's next so sugars obviously. you know like um there's a couple of.

ways you could kind of do the next. couple years of your life you know and. you know you could go kind of I bet if. they wanted to they would offer you yeah. you want to fight you know you know once. you guys might be pissed yeah but if you. want to fight straight up you know if. you want to go you know and get closer. to the top and have us chance at the at. the strap now or it's like you want to. take your way up like what do you what. do you feel like it's truly gonna be. best for you there's you know UFC is a. business a really really smart.

intelligent business and I'm a [ __ ]. star in the making like it's clear the. audience is attracted to what I have to. put out and I'm a high-level performer. so they got to build me like a business. owner but me as a fighter I'm like I can. like fight I feel like I'm the best I. can fight anybody and beat them so we. got to just kind of figure out what's. next take smart fights but also like I. found Eddie Wineland he's not an easy.

fight and like some people say oh. they're giving you bums. Eddie wine there's not a [ __ ] bomb at. all Eddie wildin will beat all of our. [ __ ] dad's ass exactly Eddie the. wines a bad [ __ ] so they're not. giving me fight Jose Quinonez was like. six and one in the UFC he wasn't an easy. fight right um so I see people on there. saying that give me these fights and. stuff but I think the us he's gonna. build me smart and in my next fight it's. gonna be another tough tougher fight. than Eddie but not super because. realistically fighting anybody in the.

top ten is a tough [ __ ] fight for me. I'm not gonna go out there smoking yeah. this is the top ten in the world in the. way house so no fights easy especially. when you know what those [ __ ] little. gloves and people throw bombs yeah so. any fights not a gimme fight but I think. they're gonna try to do it smart build. me up smart that's what they're gonna. try to do what would you try to do I. think. like a businessman - I know I'm only in. the sport for you know ten years can. sound like a long time but once I'm once. it's over I'm like [ __ ] did I do that. right I want to look back and go I did. that right I'm getting called out by a.

lot of a lot of wrestlers and I feel I'm. like God I want to fight these. [ __ ] like Cooper like what do. you mean like wrestlers like you mean. like guys that literally want to grab my. legs hold me down and not fight like. merabh that kids I saw last last weekend. all I think man like [ __ ] wrestlers. do from the WWE I don't know real. wrestling Oh guys oh wow okay like. scared to fight right but love to. grapple and wrestle just a thermic crab. kind of dude yeah. and it's a risky fight for me to take. because it doesn't cater to your strong.

suits doesn't know what you like to do. yeah I like knock people out but I'd. like I'm when I think of myself as a I. feel like I'm really good at Jiu Jitsu. but it's a risky fight taken against. someone that literally will take it on. I'll hold you there so yeah it's not. what they're lonely calm yeah it's not. what the people want to see it's not you. know but once I'm champ I'll take all. those motherf like it doesn't matter I'm. champ I had to fight who's next. but to get to the champ let's take the. smarter fights and I know a lot of. people ask [ __ ] up your [ __ ] but. definitely you know but it's a business.

and everybody it gets to do the business. it's not like they don't like everybody. like like you have some different paths. in it like you have it your own path but. yeah everybody's in the same business. till fighting these guys in the UFC. they're like so and and I think a lot of. the people get jealous like the guys all. your picking fights we're not picking. fights there's I'm not gonna fight. someone that's boring then no one gives. a [ __ ] about no one wants to see me. fight right we're gonna you know what it. means I'm gonna make a smart choice yeah.

we got to make a smart choice at the. business what do you think Tim yeah same. thing dude it's like you want to fight a. guy who literally just finally wanted to. dry-hump on you and pump on you and try. to win the rounds by ten nine or do you. want to fight a guy if we fight a. wrestler who comes in there wants to. take him down and beat the [ __ ] out of. them hell you're like a hubby let's do. that ground pound like but some of these. guys literally lay on people oh yeah. and if perverts almost yeah it's they. should get charged you know I mean yes. gay you know.

be game over Brown exactly let's meet up. after we have to but don't waste art. that the clock time we got a gentleman. right here who's obviously interested in. it has a question for us. um sugar Sean O'Malley I got a question. what do you think about six nine nine I. want to know I wanna I want to know. about about your head to my [ __ ] love. you I'm a fan I saw you talk about this.

before but I want fan-dude. I think it's almost fascinating and I. know the question for you but but I just. stole it but um I think it's just the. dudes fascinating broad like when he. said he's gonna be on @midnight. I [ __ ] showed up I was there I love. that too but then people like all he's. just I don't give a I don't pay. attention to who he snitched on what he. was in jail I don't I don't give a [ __ ]. it I just think his music - we're going. to the gym or before [ __ ] where we're. getting hype I'm throwing on some 6:9. you be' yeah and if I gotta watch the.

music video and Nicki Minaj watch that a. couple times I read you see that yes. yeah so I stood let's talk to us but. yeah I'm a fan of his he's a character. yes that is his character is working and. about the hair before we even knew 6:9. like that my debut did we talked about. hey let's do my hair like rain look. crazy and I kind of wanted to establish. my name and UFC get it you know show. that I'm for real and so the hair was. definitely a little bit inspired by like. dude that his hair looks sick it looks. [ __ ] crazy yeah and he's a [ __ ].

character I want to be a character I. want people to be like what the if they. never seen fighting I want them to look. at this screaming oh I want to watch. this guy right you got crazy areas. tallest [ __ ] skinny will you have to. stand out especially if you want to I. mean it's interesting to watch what you. guys do in y'all's business like it's. definitely changed over the past few. years I think with guys calling each. other out more like becoming characters. like everything in the world has kind of. become you know we talked about it a lot. that everything's kind of become like. the WWE a little bit like every like. politicians everybody it's all about.

just sound bites and how can i how can I. rise out of whatever's going on and be. seen really absolutely and it definitely. seems like you do that do you think. you'll have a different hairstyle like. do you have other plans for like for. future bounce. yeah. think we're gonna continue with the like. doings different colors my hair Danny my. girl does hair so she did all this so. and she we got a bunch of different. colors so we'll play around with it. maybe I was thinking like uh whoever I. fight next wearing their flag color hair.

all if he does just a peck at him like. when I fought Jose I like to say things. that are gonna nudge at him when I. fought Jose I said we'll see who's more. Mexican yeah and he got off yes but then. I get people saying you're racist but my. girls [ __ ] Mexican yeah but just. saying little things that are gonna fire. people up because if I can get someone. emotional to fight me right they're. gonna come forward like Jose today. they're gonna come forward like Eddie. didn't want to take my head off and. that's not a good game playing it. knocked out doing that so if I can get. someone emotional wanna really just hit.

me that's good because you you respond. like say if somebody did that to you you. don't respond to it the same how do I. take anything personally right like I. know I understand that you could say I. [ __ ] your mom a big cool like you'd. sell it somebody but my mom yeah my mom. [ __ ] at least probably five people. everybody's mom exactly but it's not. taking anything personally right and. because it's interesting cuz she's so. that's what okay so to you it's like the. game it's a get to show it's a show it's. a [ __ ] it's sugar yeah but I'm I'm. Sean in a way where I'm always kind of.

Shonda but I'm not gonna take it. personally right it's gonna be if I take. it personally that's gonna affect how I. fight I might fight emotional right when. I don't fight emotion I fight calm yeah. very calm and I feel like the more calm. I can be the more dangerous I am so if. someone says something and I get. personal about it I think it could. change how I fight it definitely changes. how people fight me know for sure they. get what's how most fights start like if. you're just in regular human interaction. like at a bar post office or whatever. most people fight because somebody gets. [ __ ] pissed. emotional guys like Cody gar Brant who. get mad if you sneeze next to him yeah.

it's like holy [ __ ] that's too easy. yeah like I'm sure he's already just. that Holmes wanna fight me do you think. that for him it might be the fight to. take do you feel like meta no I don't. think that's a good fight for him he. needs another fight he needs he's still. on his comeback he's he I'm ranked. number 15 the rankings are pretty much. pretty stupid like as far as who gets. title fights and stuff I'm ranked number. 15. just be number two or three or whatever.

so he's probably gonna fight me. it's a lose-lose he beats me people I. all you be the number 15 he gets knocked. out obviously it's not a win for him so. I think that's gonna be a big. pay-per-view fight someday right like I. think that's gonna be a big big fight. someday if you're to jump out at like. you know say you're able to get out like. if you were out of the weight class if. you would get into another class who's. somebody you would really love to go at. who the higher up you get the more scary. those [ __ ] get it gets scary. dude I get scared even read a lot of.

these charts yeah I can't read them for. I'm trying to go to sleep like the 55. division right there in 77 even 85 or 70. and 85 though those divisions are so. scary those humans are so athletic and. powerful and their skill levels you know. they're high level MMA fighters too so I. definitely wouldn't want to fight any of. them I love when guys like Henry sudo. I'm the baddest [ __ ] on the. world I'm like your 5/3 do we do you. think that bad you're good for your. weight class but dude you're not you. know you're [ __ ] up Francis do you uh.

press it will [ __ ] you like smack will. nugget do you think do you think [ __ ] do. you think that um like your confidence. comes from a certain place did you. always have that I think the confidence. that I have carrying into the cage comes. from know when I know I have that foot. that fight booked to the fight day I'm. doing everything right right from like I. talked about my nutrition my sleeps.

aren't my sleeps on point you're locked. in my train I'm locked the [ __ ] in so. I'm doing everything right so when I'm. in that backstage I'm not nervous I. don't feel any nerves yeah I'm calm I'm. chilling I'm ready to go out there and. perform because I knew no I did. everything right but there's times where. you know like my last you fight today. really have any injuries which was very. important going into a fight with an. injury could definitely [ __ ] with that. confident right ah like hard I don't. know I haven't really had to go into it. a fight with an injury yet yeah but I.

had a torn labrum when I fought those. two guys but I was still able to train. it didn't affect me as much till after. cuz labrum tear they tear tear tear tear. tore to the point where. needed surgery so yeah going to the. fights knowing I'm doing everything. right but even when I was 16 when I. first started for some reason a thousand. go knock these guys out Wow and I was. just a little skinny kid like yeah. that's a different where you I think. good people that don't like to fight. like if I've ever gotten a fight it's. been like [ __ ] I'm not gonna knock this.

guy out like Jesus how do i how do I. make this end I don't think you just. flinched and I might not know she that's. a good point brother fighting with that. hard [ __ ] dirty flinch dude that's. true that [ __ ] hide somebody up on. magic imagine if you just rolled out one. day deal with your hair rainbow colored. house just free we're gonna do something. special around the holidays I thought. about doing something seasonal maybe. Thanksgiving a kind of a kind of motif. or we got a question right here from a.

young man who took his shirt off yeah. thank you I appreciate you okaythen. accent I see I understand you from money. guys I've got a question here for sugar. if you had a choice what would you be. the best UFC fighter in the world or the. best for tonight player in the world. okay good question yeah I used to play a. lot of [ __ ] fortnight you ever play. that or no huh next play gap seen him. play I don't play it too much anymore I. play more call of duty now or an only. cold you know but definitely I get asked.

that like if you could stream and make. more money would you do that Mike. Fighting's my Fighting's what I truly. truly love to do and performing just. being on that fight if I could [ __ ]. this sing or rap or do anything and. perform I [ __ ] want to do it I crave. that yeah so I so definitely fighting. it's fun huh I love performing it's it's. sweet because and when I was like when I. was growing up I didn't literally. remember telling my friends I'm gonna be. famous they're like what how I don't. know I don't know I'm gonna be famous I.

don't know why I wanted to be probably. because I was insecure that's probably. what it came from like I want people to. like me. right yeah yeah I always want a studio. so yeah hey watch my fight oh yeah Danny. but uh lower as I said oh yeah. performing. love performing in its I remember. doesn't say something sick though.

philosophy for whatever do uh we got a. question right here from a guy open your. eyes fellow Asian a fear my question is. we've seen a lot of buyers struggle in. the day-to-day basis in terms of Finance. you know the cost of living going up by. here food medical petrol training. housing my question to you is should. there be a Fire's Union to help with the. financial side of it you know healthy. low tier fighters we've seen a few weeks. ago brennan royal saying he has to work.

a second job a second job and he's in. the UFC should a UFC fighter be having a. second job my question is what the [ __ ]. sides of that bed and how do they really. sleep on it is a is it a toy yeah look. how there's only eight little bars going. across looks like the pen baby yeah that. is a very lean bed this could be a. oldest baby I've ever seen yeah fighters. pay it's weird we look at other sports.

making how much money compared to. professionals fighters I mean I don't. obviously know the how much UFC is. making how much Dana making and how much. you know how much we're making and it's. not that much for compared to other. athletes but like guys like Brandon. Royal just won his fight you know that's. at least twenty thousand dollars and he. has to go work a second job it's like. that's his choice. you can quit twenty thousand dollars. will last you a couple months get really. good get another fight booking our fight. perform make another win and and you.

don't have to work unless you know maybe. as kids and [ __ ] and I don't know about. but it depends how bad you want it right. at the end of the day I don't even like. talking about the money when I I did. talk about I bring it up because I. wanted the UFC to know I'm I need to. renegotiate that's right I'm gonna bring. it up unless we get to yeah and but I. even if you don't compare it to the. who's the other athletes that are making. so much money and make damn I made 80. G's last fight yeah that's a lot of.

[ __ ] money maybe not compared to the. 100 mil of that the MLB guys just got. four [ __ ] swinging a baseball bat but. it's still like. we make a lot of money compared to. people that work nine to five s and. write it like that so and it's more. dangerous so I don't know it's tough to. say it's really dangerous I mean I feel. like it's about to change hopefully you. get that feeling Nick that it's about to. change that you guys are about to start. getting paid more you guys I'm not not. one of them but I just know Nick loves.

this for yeah but yeah yeah I I just. don't see a union ever happening because. for guys the most influential guys in. the sport like Shawn and Connor and John. it doesn't make sense it kind of puts a. cap on what they can make it really only. helps those lower to your guys and say. it's easy for me to say but yeah. Fighting's have a choice no one's. guaranteeing you a living the. pay-per-view the way it works is like. the champ and the whoever they're. fighting get the pay-per-view right so. people ask me all you can be on a Conner.

pay-per-view you're gonna get that money. I don't get any extra if I'm on a corner. pay-per-view or any pay-per-view for. that matter unless I'm the champ right. here unless I'm the main event in the. main event so it and I in in my position. I think I'm gonna do fine I'm never. really enough to worry about. pay me more because I think I'm gonna be. able to once I'm in that main main event. spot that's where I'm gonna fight I'm. never gonna go from the main event down. to not main event right with with the. the hype that might I'm gonna bring to. these fights and I want to sell these. fights these pay-per-view say the right. it's fun as [ __ ] Chael Sonnen was the.

man that Connor was the man on it and. it's it's doable so I think when I do. get no spots I think we're gonna be able. to sell good paper using specially. fighting like Cody Garber who's another. star ish like it takes two people to. build a big pay-per-view yeah and I. think I'm gonna get there and and it'll. be good the money will be good. are there guys of that are below you and. the rank and stuff that you look at and. you're like damn this guys are straight. up or anybody you're even hearing about. like this guy's a like that you know.

you're like this guy's a real [ __ ]. problem yeah yeah there's definitely. guys like in the division bantamweight. division is the most stacked division in. the UFC right now I feel like from 1 to. 10 it's so [ __ ] stacked well. confident I am it doesn't mean I'm gonna. I don't see them as they suck like I'm. not like this gonna be easy. right I feel like I'm gonna be able to. show up that night and outperform them. yeah like that's how I feel about. everybody but none of those guys are. easy fights at all I didn't think Eddie.

was necessarily an easy fight I was just. super confident that I'm gonna show up. that night and perform better than him. so looking at the division there's a ton. of guys Mike who. that's a tough fight yeah but I'll. probably still knock him out that's. what's going through my mind you have to. think that I mean that's the only thing. you really can think is that you're. gonna win so sometimes it's like if four. people that come on you about your ego. and stuff like that or come on you would. say man he sounds really confident or. trash-talk what else I mean I guess. there's maybe ways to phrase things but. if I'm walking into a fight I'm not.

thinking [ __ ] I hope we both do well a. lot of guys aren't a lot of guys you. know I feel like I built this skill set. of working my mind to thinking that way. and I don't think a lot of people can a. lot of fighters can go into fights. thinking the way I think it's a skill. that I've built up and I've practiced. about over 30 fights too and I've done a. lot of mental work you know even just. meditation and stuff like that. and and my breath work and stuff like.

that I can kind of make my thoughts like. that right some fighters are in the back. you heard down adults they're only. talking about he's [ __ ] terrified you. hear Chael Sonnen saying he's not the. only one I think well I think 95% of the. guys that are going into fights are. terrified and you aren't thinking I'm. gonna [ __ ] this dude up I think I think. like that because I know how to work my. mind and know how to have those thoughts. pop up and navigate where my thoughts go. so I think it's a skill set it's.

interesting you say that man yeah. because then you get into the fight and. you're like okay how am I going to it's. more like how am I going to do this then. what's going to happen right if you fall. walk into the fight like [ __ ] I don't. know what's gonna happen here that's a. different approach to something then man. I know what's gonna happen here I just. have to find exactly how I'm gonna get. it done yeah and like I said I kind of. let my boss I let go of all thought when.

it comes down to how the fights gonna. play out I just trust my higher self. that I'm gonna go in. and do what I need to do but a lot of. Fighters even myself before pre like. before I even really gotten you see you. would how's the fight gonna go out oh. [ __ ]. like what if he [ __ ] drops me what. this what of that I don't let myself. even get there. Wow I'm like okay we're gonna go in. there I'm healthy I'm in shape and my. skill sets high my skill set verse Hill. skill set like for when I fight a I knew. my striking was high more high-level if.

you just watch it from not thinking. about okay I'm me just watching it like. this skill verse it I'm better right and. I knew I was gonna show up so if my. skill sets better and I know I'm gonna. show up you can't beat me but there's. always that one punch and I always say. that because I know I'm not stupid I'm. still realistic there's that one shot. right he'd put your lights out but I. would not if I take myself out of it. just look at the skill set or skill set. even like if you want to use Cody for. example I feel like his skill set was my. skills that I'm better yeah he's my. strikings better and I [ __ ] show up.

yeah he seems to show up sometimes shows. up emotional last fight he looked better. than he did ever and he got the job done. still he has that [ __ ] right hand. that he dips into and throws um but when. you when I take myself out of it and. look at skillset versus to go set that's. it makes it easier because I truly. believe my skill sets so high to where I. can make oh okay. if I show up I'm gonna be I'm gonna be. good so I'm not gonna overthink the. fight I'm not gonna say oh I need. hopefully this lands this lands I'm just. gonna let myself to do whatever my body.

needs to do in there. do you practice uh we got a question. right here from APO it's a Big Sean. it's a shiloh out of Missoula Montana. just quick question for Sean just. wondering how does it feel to be a. fighter coming out of Helena and these. two come back here at all yeah Montana. is an interesting place you know Daniel. Cormier said it best he felt like when. he went to Great Falls which were woods. where Tim's from our from where I'm from. it feels like you're going back 20 years. in the past. Wow and it's honestly and I don't want.

to say it they get had people in Montana. get mad at you it's depressing there I. don't like going back it's a weird. feeling. I think the suicide rates one of the. highest there is it's a depressing place. and I don't know what why it's beautiful. yeah it's beautiful. I've been in Deer Lodge before now. okay yeah it they got a prison there. yeah - that's where Tim's from but yeah. Montana school I'm from Helena what. there was no there's not a mall there. like growing up there was an I'm [ __ ].

mall to go to there was nowhere to go. hang out but my parents had a dope-ass. house out in the mountains like [ __ ]. right next to Lakes it was nice but I. don't go back to Montana much and I. think the best thing I ever did was move. out of Montana but I'm super grateful. that I'm from Montana because it made me. the person I am like what for whatever. reason it made me the person and gave me. that confidence being a Montana fighting. other guys from Montana beating him up. and just being in Montana I felt like. dev obviously is the reason I was the. person I was before I left but moving.

out of there was the best thing yeah. most people think I'm gonna go to. Montana I probably to get my ass kicked. by some guy you thought you were like oh. I kicked everybody's ass in Montana I'm. gonna head on out but the reason I was. beating up people in Montana too is. because it was they didn't have good. training yeah heard you talk about this. that the training where you're at now. you talked about it on rogue and even. just the level of training it's like one. of the three or four hot spots that you. guys spoke about where it's just like. one of the best places to train your. penis yeah Montana was not good and when. I came down from on the reason I came to. Phoenix is because Tim was watching one. of my fights in Great Falls he was.

commentating cuz he was are even. Bellator at the time and he was like hey. if you want to come down to a real gym I. see potential in you and you could so I. came down shortly after a couple weeks. after and I was 18 years old came to the. lab literally every single I was there. for 10 days every practice I left crying. a pretty shirt ham like it was bad I. realized I'm not good at fighting like. I'm athletic and I and I just don't the. skills like a people would take me down. and beat me up but you learned it and I. and I'm like but always I'm back of my. head I'm like if I can learn these.

skills. I'll beat these guys but I'm more. athletic and for whatever reason I felt. like I had a pretty good IQ of fighting. and I was like I need to learn the. skills I learn skills so from when I was. 19 when I moved to Phoenix still even. today I'm training pretty much twice a. day I'm still getting really good I'm. getting better in those two years that I. was out I think I improved more in those. two years than I did in the previous. four years that I was training because I. was training smarter and I'm just. training with such high level people.

and retaining the knowledge and and it's. just and I've still feel like I've so. much to learn which is why I think I'm. so dangerous and it gives me that. confidence because I'm like I'm really. [ __ ] good right now but I can get I'm. just I'm just getting started. imagine in my head I'm like imagine in a. couple years if you keep training the. way you're doing it's scary to think. about my strength and strength and. conditioning Brandon Harris when he says. like we're just scratching the surface. with your [ __ ] abilities and I'm. already feeling like a [ __ ] machine.

I'm like if we're just getting going and. I'm gonna be a dangerous [ __ ]. for the rest of the time I'm in the UFC. do you is there anybody when it comes to. like talking trash and like kind of you. know like you know and you have to these. days you have to be your own PR person. really I mean yeah one percent you know. uh what's that a quiet go don't get. [ __ ] that's what they used to say back. in the day you know and it's like yeah. well [ __ ] it. is there anybody we've all done some.

things you know is there uh is there. anybody you you you you check in and. look at him like oh that you followed. their way of talking [ __ ] I definitely. watch I've said Chael Sonnen the number. one I think I think he was better than. calling her and I didn't get a watch it. while it's happening I better go back on. the YouTube videos click like Chael. Sonnen best trash talk and watch out. like [ __ ] I've watched every single I.

watched Connors betcha and it's I watch. it like it's comedy and they're funny is. funny and that's pretty great and I feel. like I've always been you know I've. always been the goofy kid that kind of. funny guy and I'm like if I just be. myself and then learn like everything. like these guys um I think I'm gonna be. able to be pretty good at talking [ __ ]. yeah in my own way and and it's gonna be. authentic because then you. there's people can tell when you're. being real your true self and like being. funny and then people can tell when.

you're being like you know Henry cejudo. who just he's with Olympic gold medalist. he's you know two-time world champ he. hasn't he's following Sox yeah he's just. not funny. and it's there's no that off stage his. personality is it is for beau. really Austin yeah and he's just so I. think but yeah chill and in Connor I. definitely watched a lot of a lot of. their interviews and probably. subconsciously learned a lot to where I. can kind of put it in my own ways yeah. it's fun man and it makes it fun dude I.

love that part of it I remember after my. broke my foot I told Joe Rogan I said I. love what did I say I said I [ __ ]. love Joe but I said I love everything. about the sports the trash talk that the. build ups to the fights dude those press. conferences with that Conor have been in. with with they were so ghetto Floyd with. Floyd with with Aldo with when they're. all sitting up there he's talking about. hey dude I can't wait for those I'm. gonna give me a [ __ ] a quad shop chug.

it and just get goofy on the mic and. started saying [ __ ] up [ __ ] that. people and like pushing the bound and. the funny thing is is already I want to. watch that you know I'm saying like I. want to watch it's interesting it's like. what makes people want to watch it's. that it thing but no one really kind of. knows what that it thing is but I said. up on The Contender series when I was. seven and OH or whatever I was before I. fought Alfred I said I have that it. thing I'm gonna knock out Alfred and. everyone's gonna want to watch me fight. and it just happened like that and it's. funny that was a great fight - I thought.

man that was [ __ ] that was okay I was a. wild one to watch yeah it was it was. high paced and it was but I was had that. was the worst fight camp I've ever had. in my life and it was the biggest. opportunity I needed to go out there and. perform and that's what really you know. probably a lot of confidence so I'm like. I I had a bad concussion this is the. reason I don't spar too much I had a bad. concussion couple weeks before the fight. waking up in the middle of the night. puking not able to train couldn't eat. hardly so I weighed in at 136 I got in.

the cage at 138 and that's [ __ ]. insane like you don't get in the you. don't weigh in at 136 getting on 138 and. I just had such a bad camp I was. completely gassed out in that fight you. can see a minute in I'm huffing and. puffing and I still dropped him so that. made me really that pride built a lot of. my just GoPro batteries getting the [ __ ]. out of me um that private gave me a lot. of confidence knowing I can still show. up when I feel like that. yeah let's look at that picture a Tim -.

let's bring that back up I don't want to. that was yeah he had a cameo on uh rip. my trip who sent that in sorry we have. this boy we have this guy on a that's. been following Tim and I for a long time. names our point oh he's an OG joban of. ours and uh he sent it in like four. weeks in a row he said and he finally. got it on and it was legendary it's. funny Thea was when I had hair like you. I used to have and I had like a little. bit of frosted tips I got more puss and. I've ever got in my life oh praise God. and brother amen to that.

yeah you show up looking like you can do. something and people think you can this. is when you got your first [ __ ] right. took out your shiny entender oh man. don't oh yes what's in that fanny pack. we had again hopefully more Fanny Lamar. bustles on this dude no bottoms and lube. any bro a little vibrator an idea let's. get that other question that came in. do I want to kind of hear what you guys.

said about him back in a day oh yeah. let's play this yeah didn't even know. thanks God look at them [ __ ] George. Brown he kind of has that Joe Rogan of. the of the West vibe that Joe Rogan of. the future ha done me. yeah those [ __ ] bow lays it looks. like Joe Rogan if he if he was in that. movie um what's that movie were they. were those things climbing underground. and they try to pop out and see Rimmer's. tremors yeah that's old movie he looks.

like Joe Rogan if he's in taxicab. confessions porn up oh yeah it looks. like Joe Rogan and Hulk oh he looks like. Hulk Hogan get his kicks know when Hulk. Hogan's son killed somebody by car yeah. man yeah I'm Nick Hogan. yeah racism he's over driving now oh. yeah you know look at the. so if somebody doesn't ejaculate under.

that guy yeah we ain't this ain't. America what do you guys do whenever you. guys go out around the town man do you. guys ever go out. really we don't go out dude we train we. get high we chill that's it is it too. dangerous going out whenever you can. fight like jizzy cuz I like you know I. can do comedy so I like to go out and do. comedy you know like is it dangerous. like I might [ __ ] you up ya know I don't. look at fighting like that at all I'm. never confrontational and I don't get in. fights outside of it I know I don't I'm.

never even in that situation right if we. go out it's - we'll get [ __ ] high. [ __ ] go over eat and regret it that's. pretty much like what we do. yeah we don't we did go to a comedy. place down in Phoenix I'd like to go. down there more cuz being around the. comedy club that was pretty [ __ ] fun. we never really know I only hear Rogan. talk about and you guys talk about being. on the club comedy club like damn that. sounds [ __ ] that sounds fun yeah. yeah that stand-up live Club is that the. one yeah what's it called you members in. Scottsdale. is that what it is it's a couple good.

one it's not in Scottsdale some Phoenix. right is it done yeah downtown yeah yeah. stand-up live that's a good one yeah. Brendon and them were just over there. actually oh is that where they perform. yeah I think they were there actually a. good weekend last night I think or two. nights ago yeah yeah yeah. that's what they were let's get this. question in big fan of the podcast in. general all [ __ ] ten of them that you.

do and just wanted to got a quick. question for Sean on that some after you. get that Bell. what are you telling Joe and now. post-fight interview what are you gonna. tell them I don't I really still don't. know what podcast is for so gangrene but. [ __ ] whatever not even sure half the. words in Louisiana said so it's limited. for a limited word ship down there yeah. after he had his buddy with him.

an extra work will decide after my fight. with honor I remember saying I [ __ ]. love you Joe Rogan and then I fought. with Jose I was on ESPN that I don't. cause I freakin love you Joe Rogan and. then after that pay-per-view fo so I. think that's kind of became a thing just. a [ __ ] such a huge fan of Joe Rogan. it's [ __ ] it's so sweet that he's a. commentator there like in the UFC they. said hey how are you gonna how are you. gonna how's it gonna affect you fight. with no crowd I said Joe Rogan and is. there and Dana White say I don't give a.

[ __ ] about Joe Rogan listening to him. commentate and in his podcast I'll. probably say I [ __ ] love you Joe. Rogan don't forget that though I'd be a. great t-shirt if you made that - you. mind if I use that like give me 10 bucks. little wife beater so Mike yeah he made. that Spotify money if your ex wife. beater did meter. ya future wife beater yeah you too right. the other great like a rash card cut off. what else we got Nick anything you want.

to ask man this guy's go he's got a good. question okay here we go a lot of our. questions they have their shirts off I. don't know what it is but people are. fired up yeah they do it you got. push-ups. Sean what is your favorite tattoo um and. prize of price time on my face I. remember when I want to get face tattoo. Danny my girl she's like nah don't do it. and it was the star in it I said I'm. stupid enough to get a face tattoo but I.

was smart enough to get a fake one first. right so I got the fake star tattoo. before my fight with Andre and it was. I'm like damn I'd like that. so so I wouldn't got the star I was. feeling like a [ __ ] superstar yeah I. was on pay-per-view I'm in the UFC is 22. years old I'm like [ __ ] I'm getting a. star on my face I ain't gonna ever work. a [ __ ] job again. so probably the star that's what started. the face tattoos and then I got and I. got sugar and then I got breathe oh it. says breathe when you look in the mirror. uh-huh that one was pretty cool because.

I was going to like all that you saw the. stuff I was really learning more about. my breath and meditation and stoicism. and it all comes back to just taking. that just breathing and feeling that. breath so I got that one and I like that. one a lot. I got the heart the heart was just kind. of like I don't I just want something on. my face yeah man that's feeling hard. yeah do what you got to do yeah it's. interesting because I mean back in there. like I mean tattoos and stuff I don't. have any but it's all you know I can. stick with a little faced at tribal. thing really yeah I know but something.

some small would be sick yeah I think. you gotta even if you get like a little. fake one first just to check it out yeah. you'd like it you look in the mirror you. scream I do every morning. do you yeah feel hard because you're. like [ __ ] I have to show up now that I. have face tattoos well after that and. not show up for my fight before my fight. like I got [ __ ] crazy hair I get. knocked out that's gonna be [ __ ] a. meme forever lay there my hair flopping.

around yeah colorful has kind of reached. out to you know I feel like no I I'm a. huge fan of Conor obviously but I feel. like he I feel like he might be a little. bit of a drunk now yeah I'm not who. knows maybe not but I feel like he. probably looked at me like this little. [ __ ] about to steal all my shine yeah. because I'm um I heard Brendan to talk. what was it saying about the new super. the new pay-per-view model he doesn't. think anybody's gonna be like that big. superstar that Conor that Rhonda that I. think he's wrong I think I'm gonna be.

the next big [ __ ] superstar but I. just have to make sure I'm continuing to. show up in the gym and get better so I. go out there and perform but if I keep. going out there and doing what I know. I'm capable of doing like a lot of. people don't think in their mind like. I'm gonna go knock this dude out in a. [ __ ] flashy way I said before that. fight I'm gonna knock this dude out in a. viral way and I did and I feel like I. can do that to everybody it doesn't. matter what style if I'm longer than you. and faster than you I can knock you out. in a crazy fashion its artistic it's. like Pablo like kick ass Oh or something.

yeah exactly. cast so I might get that tide on my face. [Laughter]. column we just hired Colin maybe we'll. make him get it but no I wouldn't be so. gangster one day to have somebody who. you have to like you don't want to have. the tattoos where you make them that. would be sweet yeah that would be cool J. that's you. this is my tattoo donkey right here it. says menthol across his back tats do you.

get buzz that much uh get [ __ ] up your. mating buds yeah every night not. recently I got quickly one drug that's. now call a while back but I'll probably. do it at some point just not right now. yeah I don't. what about DMT have you ever done that I. haven't but I'm definitely I definitely. like to I like how it's a quick kind of. I've been told yes you just walk through. it easier I definitely would would be. interested in doing that but uh getting. buzzed though it's so fun when you do it.

but we don't do it very often couple. times a year three four maybe I drunk. yeah yeah but it like when we did buzzed. with the boys it's so much [ __ ] fun. it's just hard to like I don't want to. wake up next morning with a [ __ ]. headache yeah it was kind of become an. old-fashioned - I think like when I was. in college like everybody got drunk. right it was like how drunk can you get. Zach's dead yeah you know it'd be like. it was like oh man like who cares if. he's dead he can still drink you know it.

just now you see people using more. psychedelics you see people use it more. like things that they want to have like. an actual experience yeah then they want. to just kind of pollute themselves you. know okay it's just like everything. every diet changes I think the diet of. how we get wasted. yeah is evolving as well you know [ __ ]. yeah this was kind of related this. question gang gang brother. my name is tor from Sydney Australia I.

just have a question for Sean I just. wondering a few microdose anything I. don't know if you're allowed to talk. about it at all but um there are huge. benefits with it and I know that you. just saw you on drug events put costs. speaking about mushrooms so just want. any few micro dose at all thanks guys. have a good day it's cool how many. different people around the world and it. amazing they're under the podcast and. stuff like when I go on Twitch people. like hey from Germany hey from Russia. it's [ __ ] crazy thank you pretty. dude's fat it's really fascinating isn't. it it is micro dosing I feel like for me.

when I use a psychedelic I feel like I. have to almost be kind of called to UM. I'm going through something any need to. figure it out lately lifespan so just. going so well right now hmm that I. haven't really felt like I needed to use. mushrooms or any psychedelics really but. I have micro dosed and it does it makes. its life more vibrant almost and if. you're in a you got to be careful if.

you're in what kind of mindset you're in. but if I'm going through someone I need. to have [ __ ] figure something out. I feel like and dig deep where it's like. okay this is coming from my childhood. and this is coming from this insecurity. or you're attached to your significant. other and you get jealous in a certain. way like that's when I feel like those. mushrooms are so beneficial and so. powerful they can really help you dig. deeper into those situations and figure. out what's the next step. because mushrooms aren't gonna fix. nothing they're not you don't take. mushrooms back hello I feel better now.

yeah it's gonna give you the right idea. to bake oh [ __ ] this is where I'm going. wrong this is what I need to change. right yeah yeah it helps you get out of. there some of those bad loops you can. get in exactly yeah so I think mushrooms. are so [ __ ] powerful crazy huh it's. crazy that very little Miller Lite look. like a little post exactly I think you. know Tim so it should be a national. mushroom day where everybody just kind. of trips and realizes we're all [ __ ]. one like at the end of the day we're all.

one [ __ ] yeah bro everybody's. gets in a big pile in the park yeah. protest but dude how crazy do divita do. him like with your mom or something I've. always thought about that my mom's. starting to get a little weird bro I. think she was in a couple of years dude. I take a weekend off of partying and I. just go do him with my mom dude I think. that would be an emotional such a. positive thing for for me and my mom to. but my mom is so again she's religious -. where is she wouldn't do it right.

because the Bible and all that but I'm. like if you'd read the Bible doesn't it. say stuff about plants and medicine and. stuff but she thinks she literally told. me the other day marijuana no twenty. cigarettes is worse than one joint on. the internet I've heard that my mom you. smoked 20 cigarettes I'll smoke a joint. let's get on the treadmill and see you. fall. let's do anything anything and uh but. she's just so cut off at that religious. block there's I just don't see her but. she used to say she's she's such a good.

[ __ ] person and I love her to death. but I think she just had stuck on that. block that will marijuana so bad for you. yeah but I don't know why I'm like you. I've seen you drunk like I've seen you. drink caffeine coffees literally. opposite of weed in a sense like yeah I. don't get it has she you think she's. ever tried it I don't think she's ever. tried it no see that's the thing I think. is if getting someone and have the. experience because I think they feel. like you smoke a joint you lose your job. you get like a shitty car your air.

conditioner doesn't work you cry in your. yard you know what I'm saying you. suddenly have two kids in the backyard. and the [ __ ] there's a shitty pool. that they're in like I think people. that's what people think like oh that's. happened Cosima I don't think they. realize oh it just kind of makes you a. little different you know it makes the. whole way you interact with the world it. puts a different fill yeah I think what. and I think coffee is the same thing. caffeine is a drug that makes you. [ __ ] before I had caffeine and I look.

like it changes your mind it's all. mind-altering just like weed isn't let's. call it deer until a piece of [ __ ] I. don't like when littler guys talk [ __ ]. to the big UFC the big guys like I'm a. 35 I'm not a big guy I'm a little guy. I'm not talking [ __ ] to these big ass. [ __ ] I'm smart enough to know. that these guys can still whip my every. night that's why I don't like when the. little guys act like they're the king of. the world even Connors like there's not. a man but that might be him playing that. up like that thing where people are.

gonna wash out but it's gotten so much. easier for him to play it up it's almost. like that's become his only element. since he doesn't fight anymore yeah I. don't like it sucks because you almost. get put in this position to where it's. like for Connors like I need big [ __ ]. fights I'm not gonna fight anyone else. and he seems like like he's getting. frustrated he wants to fight but he only. has so many options right and that's the. thing with getting up in the rankings. like so your anchor 5 it's like ok I can. fight number 4 3 2 1 or the champ.

but these guys are fighting each other. this guy's injured this guys [ __ ]. mom has cancer this guy you know he's. just like there's Gant you can't fight. certain time goes fast and before you. know it it's been a year it's been a. year and a half so it's like almost the. rank it's like [ __ ] once you get up. there so you can only fight a certain. amount of guy right cuz you don't want. to fight backwards it's just it doesn't. it's not it doesn't make sense but you. got to enjoy the right so you have to. plan the ride you do and I went and for. me it's like I love fighting if they get. if it was my choice I'd fight next. weekend yeah I would have had a fight.

booked and we're fighting but it like I. said it's a business and I gotta do it. right. but yeah Fighting's [ __ ] and it's a. dangerous sport like I'm lucky I got out. of the last two fights no injury that's. rare yeah super rare to get out of. fights with no injuries back to back. like that have you ever fought Sammael. may as one eye or not I wanna I'm like. are somebody that only had like one. something no I remember there was this. guy that I sent the Tim they I got off. for a fight remember that yeah here's.

one leg dude in Montana you can [ __ ]. fly every weekend that's the thing. that's how I used to love that sugar. used to say as a when he was amateur. he's like man I don't even give a [ __ ]. if I lose I just want to do some sweet. [ __ ] like if I can make a highlight if I. can go into a fight and get like a good. solid bunch of sweet [ __ ] like that I. did in the fight and then lose like I. always got sweet vids true bro the. highlights bro it's all MaxPreps it's. like as long as you have a couple of. good highlights right it doesn't matter.

this guy's 74 hear that buddy shows up. watch him do this back think about. having being undefeated - I'm 12 I know. it's like [ __ ] that. oh is so important in the business -. it's like so I was like okay if I lose. then it's like okay now we're free to. find whoever [ __ ] it but you got to keep. that oh you got to keep the undefeated. record yeah does that did you think. about that a lot for me I think another. thing that's super that I have an. advantage of in the mental Department is. I'm not afraid to lose when I look at.

losing I look at as a chance to go. through adversity a chance to be like. when I when the whole you sada thing. came about it's like that was so I felt. like I just took a li just lost like I. just got suspended for some I didn't. [ __ ] do right but I was able to. figure out. how to make it a positive thing training. wise my relationships wise just learning. a lot about myself so if I lose a fight. I'm okay now we just got some [ __ ] to. deal with mentally obviously I need to. go work on something did I get caught.

that I get dropped it I lose a decision. with that I guess out what happened I. gotta go work on that and then mentally. it's like okay how do I deal with this. loss and I'm gonna be able to deal with. it because I've dealt with [ __ ] before. and I know that dealing with adversity. come out more powerful on the other side. so I'm really not scared to lose I. definitely obviously don't want any but. I gotta hope I lose next fight I'll be. sick but I'm not afraid to lose and. going into a fight if I do lose my. circle so small that I'm not gonna have. people full flailing like Kim's gonna be. there Jay's gonna be there my girl is.

gonna be there my mom and dad let the. core the small group I got the guys at. the gym at TW BJJ where we trained like. those guys [ __ ] love me in there. not because I'm winning fights because. I'm they're a fan of what I do in the. and I entertain and then I go to the gym. and I'm like what's up guys like I'm so. I'm not gonna lose anybody that's. important right the only thing you're. gonna lose is just yeah just be a fight. that big deal so I think being able to. look at it with that mindset helps me go.

into not be getting nervous and fights. like it's interesting man it definitely. after watching like interviews with you. and then talking with you now it. definitely gives me a more of an. understanding of what kind of your your. overall perspective of things is. definitely a little bit different that's. good yeah it's sweet being able to do. podcast like this and get asked. different questions and reach different. audiences and I have on podcasters sweet. because you you really get an. understanding of what of who someone is. for the most part you can kind of tell. if they're bullshitting or if they're. being themselves or whatever so yeah.

it's [ __ ] podcasting so fun yeah yeah. it's been awesome and Nick what else we. got anything else I guess just more. specifically do you have a timeline and. when you're trying to fight again yeah. that I'm talking to UFC ITEX on Shelby. yesterday I said dude I'm ready to go in. August like I know I don't think I fight. Island sounds really cool I don't think. it does but when I [ __ ] hole would I get. there and I'm like this place [ __ ]. even if it is sweet it's like okay bean.

I could either. fight the thing is - is the cage size. like the cage is what was at 44 percent. smaller almost half the size oh yeah on. fight island no no in in Vegas yeah. that's what they said right this past. weekend though that cage was smaller. yeah the one I fought in was [ __ ]. tiny and I felt it but that's when I. fought in the contender search - and. it's like for me and my advantage is my. footwork and my movement so the bigger. the cage the better for me so fight. islands can have a big cage Vegas has a. smaller cage but I would way rather.

fight in Vegas but I'd rather fight in a. bigger cage so it's like okay who are we. fighting we fighting a grappler who's. gonna try to hold me down that small. cage is gonna benefit them more we. fighting a striker in a smaller cage and. still would rather have a bigger cage. but it's different it's a different game. like Eddie was a striker it wasn't it. wasn't too big of an issue um so I'd. rather fight in Vegas in a bigger cage. if I had the opportunity hopefully we're. gonna fight August a couple people like. I supposed to fight cheetah I don't know. if you know who that is yet you know his. fight was sick well he lost but it was a.

I thought he won : oh he won he lost what he wore did Louis. oh he lost he lost the decision I Vera. right there yeah yeah I thought he. wanted why do you want to that's how. crazy it let's we'll see that's what I. told do you have see two of my own I'll. fight him I know he's coming off a loss. and you're supposed to winners fight. winners UFC 31. I thought he won you know that could be. a fight to make to him yeah that'd be a. great fight might be or it gonna be. another first Raquel but no he's. definitely tough is [ __ ] he's like he's. tough he's gonna yeah and I always say.

this I plan on fighting for 15 minutes. as far as when my training is concerned. like we're training to [ __ ] fight for. 15 minutes most the time like throughout. my career it doesn't last like that yeah. and I don't you know when I close my. eyes and see the fight playing out I. knock him out in the first thing but. he's tough the skill sets pretty hot. pretty good he's a good grappler I think.

you would try to take me down not. initially I think he's like initially. will probably like strike with then hit. him with a [ __ ] sugar smack and I can. smack him in the kids means I all kind. of grab me that's what usually happens. like against Steve. am i hitting with that [ __ ] stevia. buddy I think he called me Stevie on. Twitter did oh did he really no I didn't. he said something about make an excuse. with UFC people on Twitter so [ __ ]. stupid like it it's funny I like Twitter. now I don't use it too much I use it to. talk [ __ ] like Peter I don't know if you.

saw that tweet nah didn't see peter yawn. he said uh oh yeah there's that next. time you see called donut Leif uses like. UFC called me I'm like no I can't make. it mom my grandma's couch broke and I. can't make I'm a excuse but uh I think. it What did he say he said it's my time. and I said calm down Peter or no I said. calm down you can't even spell your name. right Peter or something like that and.

it's just funny little comments like. that the right there he said my time and. I said calm down you can't even spell. your name right Peter spelled it right. and uh and then he said something he. said oh yes Conan I can't phone your. name right Peter just not funny [ __ ]. like that on Twitter makes Twitter so. [ __ ] fun because it's a game well. it's interesting too for you because you. see coming out of like this twitch world. and being in like and being of a younger. generation and some guy you know like.

just think it's it's more of a not real. world online yeah yeah yeah and it's. building potential big fights in the. future like that's building it up are. you're not working for me now kill a boy. yeah I don't know if he speaks English. or if he has some was translating I died. truly don't know but uh makes I'm. curious if he's actually him I don't. think he could speak that way yes he got. his own style man it's funny people. always try to jab at me from curly hair.

I'm like curly hair the only we gonna. get laid yeah like you guys not an. insult. you go [ __ ] your hair but yeah well I. got laid with it so yeah it's not a good. insult I think a lot of Henry cejudo. said something out curlicue or something. did EU tip or something bout my hair my. kind of kid that's not good but it's. interesting that at where you're at you. have these guys who are taught or. communicating with you saying like yeah. it's interesting it's like the top talks. a lot of guys who could tweet it Henry's. ooh. and they're not gonna get any response. but that's not where you live right now.

that's not that's not the you know the. the world you have built for yours yeah. right now and I've been I bet it is. [ __ ] exciting it's fun it's makes it. more exciting and I've been building. this up for you know I've been building. my social media up for a long time you. know ever since I guess I got it kind of. just been building up building up. building up making it like a business. yeah you know you can make like I make a. lot of [ __ ] money from my Instagram. and it's like a business there but. growing up oh if I had so many adults.

tell me don't post this don't post that. you know UFC not gonna like that me. smoking weed in my [ __ ] marijuana row. listen in a 50 cent like day I wouldn't. post out us in our literally been adults. that I'm supposed to look up to it's so. hard for me to look up to most adults. I'm like your life sucks. I don't like what you tell me doesn't. really resonate you just got fired yes. yes got fired from the fire department. yeah so it's like hard for me when I was. growing up listening to the dalts like I. don't want to be like you so that's. probably not gonna not gonna listen I've.

always kind of been a rebel in that way. but I've been like the social media way. post and [ __ ] that I think's funny yeah. I think it's [ __ ] funny I'm gonna. post it do undeniable that the show is. entertaining man a rebel with a cause. exactly anything else that's it for me. you got Tim man you got anything else. for this I want I want to see okay. besides Schwab and Joe Rogan I think. with your size you might be able to [ __ ]. up any other comedian. Oh what about Cal and you versed Callen. he foxes a little bit I see I think it.

in a little old dog that's true I'm. actually gonna stop by Tony Jeffrey's. gym on the way home he's got that box. and burn hits emits or what yeah I'm. just gonna check it out I'm gonna get a. membership over there anytime I want to. I need to fight somebody I think you. word Brian sparring three threes would. be [ __ ] epic I'd watch that I'd be in. it I mean yeah your size and intimidated. me I don't think people know yeah you're. taller you're like I can get it man I'm. already. we got a mullet so you can get yeah I'll. get [ __ ] your head yeah [ __ ] yeah.

already John a little if you could jab. Brian cuz I haven't met Brian either so. I don't know he's small he's small I was. quick in his hip so he's got this kinda. I guess that he's got that wiggle in him. yeah. but he's very small he's almost like he. is the physique of like Elf on a shelf. member alpha on a show ya know Elf on a. shelf. I can see bright yeah okay yes small. physique almost like somebody said him. somewhere up on the Shelf with trap so. he does have nice yeah but his muscle. his bone densities going down somewhat. even in the past year yeah yeah he's. heaven where do you think you'll be like. tactical or morally unjust emotions like.

I'd go in mouth first yeah I do all many. people [ __ ] yeah get emotional Oh. someone slap you in the rap this. squealing with a five my finishing move. is I can hold him down damn and I cry. straight into his mouth drown him bro. [ __ ] I think it's some crazy finishing. moves bro dude I have some I really do. like we got things that have never been. done you know I do that I do I have. moves that have never been that people. are gonna be like I think I'm not real.

yeah that's the goal people I get in. fights people a was that meal I want to. be a that big of a character and we got. the moves I have this the techniques. down like this guy's using are three. isn't it yeah yeah they're gonna be very. interesting what is a UFC gaming gonna. be able to keep up with the [ __ ] that I. actually can do so it's gonna be sweet. I'm excited it's nice to be healthy. right I really feel healthy because with. that strength and conditioning program. I'm doing I'm doing that and building. that dense bones and I just eating. healthy so I my body's so and when I'm.

healthy and athletic like this I'm a. dangerous [ __ ] and I have so. many sweet movies to finish people with. and you gotta remember I'm almost I'm. 511 and most the guys in my division or. five seven five six like little dudes ya. know you that link that almost makes me. when I'm watching you it makes me. nervous yeah for some reason cuz I'm. like oh because the visual is that oh. this guy looks you know like the who was. the good gentleman whose stamen stamin. no Cody stamen yeah yeah.

when you look at him you're like Jesus. Christ but so he's closer to five foot. than his Wow you know what I mean so. does that scare you though when you see. somebody with that body like that. physique the skin it's just like I mean. if you know it's funny funny than it is. when you see a [ __ ] you get scared. without a [ __ ] he's 5/3 not really. that's true man you're right it's not. scary no no when they're jacked like.

that it's like okay he's gonna try to. take me down and hold me it's not scary. thinking like that because I got to get. inside. gotta get need elbow kick steeped. there's a lot of weapons a lot of a lot. like it's dangerous coming in to my. range a lot of blades a lot of blades a. lot of blade just got with ya Sean. O'Malley the show thanks man yeah that. was [ __ ] awesome thanks for coming in. bro exciting man Tim thank you so much. [ __ ] yeah good to meet you guys yeah and.

of jxj x-rays as you come Jesus Jesus. and he does look good social media. stuffy. yep Jesus does our podcast vlogs runs. our patreon for the most part like. posting on stuff so agenda yeah dude. having that stuff going is so huge bro. [ __ ] yeah a lot of people don't have. that so thinking ahead like that bro. we're on top of it we got the squad on. top of every deer that's huge. [Music].

but when I reach that round I'll share. this piece of my background I can feel. it in my bones but it's gonna take. little time for me to set that parking. brake and let myself all my. [Music].

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