Sophie Cunningham | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #692

She's number eight for the Indiana Fever. and a cornerstone for that locker room. She's one of the most talked about. players in the WNBA and uh and she's. absolutely hilarious. Uh I'm thankful. that I got to sit down with Miss Sophie. Cunningham.

Oh, so are you going to be touring like. just working with Tokova the whole time? Oh, sweet. Dude, I wish I would have. known because Yeah, Tokoba sponsors our. podcast, too. >> Dude, you need to get some [ __ ] kickers, man. >> I don't know what happened. I have some. I don't know who took them. >> Um, Sophie Cunningham, what's up? >> Nothing. >> Let's start there. How about that? There. you go. >> Okay. >> It's good. It's nice outside. >> Oh, it's good weather here, right? Oh, I. feel honestly almost feel bad being in. here. >> Why? >> Just because it's cuz you just said cuz.

it's nice. >> Well, we should have done this out by. the pool like. >> Yeah, but I don't know cuz sometimes. there's wind conditions and we tried one. time and they had like um a there was. like some night and gales or something. or uh sparrows or something and it was. like problematic. >> Well, yeah, I was kidding, but I could. see. Yeah, I would want a bird to [ __ ]. on me so it's fine. >> Yeah. I mean, and it's good luck in some. countries. I think where is that if an. animal Don't even look it up. Let's keep it moving, dude. Um, thanks. for hanging out.

>> Yeah, thanks for. >> Um, you're here for the race. >> Nice. >> What are your plans with the race? >> Um, probably watch some cars. Okay. >> Um, meet some drivers. Uh, meet some. teams. I think that'd be fun. Uh, I have. a couple girlfriends coming down. Really? Yeah. And so we're just going to. kick it. Like this is like my first. weekend that I can just like relax and. kind of have some fun. So why not? >> Cuz your season ended what, like two two. or three weeks ago. Ours was kind of. like a month ago. >> Was it? >> I watched the final game. >> Yeah. Not not great. Wasn't our best. >> Yeah. What's it like right when it ends?

Like right when the right when the. season ends it like cuz you guys were in. the best of three with the aces and you. you guys lost. >> Yeah. So, um it's like a I mean it. sucks. Like I I hate to lose and so um I. don't know when you feel like you have. the potential you have the potential of. like your team like you know what you're. made of and you can do it. But we just. didn't get it done and so it sucks. But. then like after a couple weeks it's like. ding. It's kind of nice to like relax. and I don't know get back home and get. around your people. So. >> what did you think y'all were missing?

Like did it come to a. >> shots? Duh. >> Bro, you're so right, dude. >> Like that that's a big problem. >> You didn't take that many shots in the. last game. >> No, it's okay. Maybe next year. Like. what do you want me to say? I don't. know. >> That's so true, though. >> No, I first game we got blown out so not. great. um had a pretty good game. individually, but. >> you know, that doesn't matter. Um second. game we won nice at home and then went. back out to Vegas. Uh great environment.

I'll give them that. But some tough. calls. We didn't make our shots. Um just. didn't play great. Yeah. So. >> it just felt kind of Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It was kind of a It wasn't fun to watch. You know, that's probably my favorite. team, I think. So. >> us or Vegas? >> Y'all's team? >> No. I was like, which one? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, no, you did come to a regular. season game. >> Oh, yeah. We came. I've come Let me see. I think I've been like the past two. seasons I've been to a game. >> Yeah, we went with um. >> Patrick and Connor. >> Yeah, he was in town. He's playing in.

like Poland now or something. Um but. yeah, it was a good time. I love it over. there. I love I mean I love watching the. team. It's a good time. But like I guess. when I'm sitting there as a as a fan, when I'm watching a game, there's so. many other things that I'm wondering if. they're going on on the court, right? Like is there cuz a lot of times y'all. sport is one of the few sports where you. can see where you know some of the. people been dating or been in love or. studing around or whatever it's called. or being buddies or whatever. Um you. know so you're always wondering like how. much like of that sort of like lesbian.

espionage is going on out there you. know. >> I mean that's a valid point and like. each their own. Like I love our league. is fun. It truly is. Like the girls are. great. Um, I do feel like sometimes. there's like a lot of tea and drama. going on, but like for us that kind of. makes it better because like you know. what's going on. I don't know if the. fans do. I think like the hardcore fans. do, but at the end of the day, like when. it's time to play, people like forget. about that. Like we're professional. basketball players. You show up, you do. your job. Um, I'm sure the guys have. drama with the same girls that they're. messing with. Like it's the same thing, but ours is just either teammates with.

the person they're messing with or going. against. So I can see where from the. outside it could be weird, but like it I. don't know. I think I'm just like used. to it, >> right? Yeah. I guess as a fan you're. just wondering, man, is this like if if. they're two exes and they're right. there, they're playing against each. other or now they're on the same team or. sometimes it seems like they're trading. people to other teams that are like now. lovers or what you're like, what is even. going on? >> Oh, there is a web. There's a web, but. it's like fascinating. I'm on the. outside of that web. Um, so like I just. kind of sit back and eat my popcorn and. and watch it all unfold and it's.

entertaining. It's fun. >> Is there like is there like a lesbian. mafia in the league? Like is there is. there any like animosity if people are. between if somebody is straight or by or. gay? Is there any animosity between. those people? >> Dude, honestly, I'm like strictly. dickly. So I have no idea. Like I don't. know who the mock is. >> And what does that mean? Wiener only or. for wieners or whatever? >> No, like guys only. >> Men? Yeah. >> Yeah. Just men. Yeah. But like to each. their own. Do go do what you want. Like. I don't care. >> Yeah. Who car? I don't give a dang if. somebody's, you know, being like.

whatever they're doing or whatever. I don't care at all. I could in fact if. I did care it would be crazy. Like if I. went home and I was like. >> angry about it. Like why? Who gives a. flying [ __ ] Like I don't. >> Could you even imagine if I was just. drawing pictures if I was get ordering. like lesbian voodoo dolls or something? Like that would be the most obscene. thing I could ever even fathom. Um but. yeah, I guess I just wonder how much. like as somebody watching the game, you. just wonder, oh, how much extra lore is.

going on out there? And are people using. that like like is somebody ever posting. you up and they're just like they're. flirting at the same time, you know? >> No. Like I No. No. >> Okay. That's what I wonder. I think is. so is going on sometimes. It feels like. somebody's like, you know, >> but I again I don't know like I'm not. Oh, right. >> I'm not in it. But like you know your. teammates and like people that they've. kind of been with or have not been with. You know the team what's going on, right? So like. >> when you're playing those people it's. not like you're focused on that. You're.

literally trying to [ __ ] win a game, you know? Like that's just like not even. >> out there and somebody's like, "Hey, pass a note to that other girl over. whatever.". >> No. >> Okay. >> When would you been to a game? When. would we have time to do that? >> I don't know. >> exactly. >> Okay, that's a good point. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. It just seems like. there's so you guys' league always it. seems like has the wildest [ __ ] like. when people were throwing those wieners. on the court and all that. >> Well, yeah. I got hit by one of them. >> No way. >> Yeah. In LA. Yeah. Yeah. hit me in the. left foot.

>> Did it? >> Mhm. >> Did anybody take one home or was that. like taboo or whatever? >> Do you do you know about it? >> NO. NO ONE'S taking that home. I lowkey. kind of wanted to take it home though. just to be like I was probably the first. person to get hit by a dildo while. playing a in a WNBA game. >> Yeah. Or in a sport at all. Look that. up. >> Actually, valid point. Okay. So, I was. on the free throw line here. >> I bet somebody's hummed one at uh. >> and it scared me. >> at a ball boy. Wait, hold on. Let me. see. Go ahead. Let's Yeah, let's play. out that when that wiener hit her.

All right. Whatever. You know what I'm. saying? But let's play it out. And where. was This was in LA. >> So, this is in LA and like I think the. clip kind of cut before, but like we. were on the free throw line. She shot it. and I went to go like box her out. >> Okay. >> And all of a sudden something like hit. my foot and I looked down and that's. when I jumped cuz I like you're in a. game. Like you're trying to compete and. win. Like we're down. I'm if I'm focused. on. >> and slow it down so we can see that. >> like right. you kind of get in the way but right.

there. >> Oh, there you go. That's a wiener. >> I actually got made fun of in the locker. room cuz they're like, "Have you never. seen a dildo before?" And I was like, "Dude, I'm like playing a basketball. game. I wasn't expecting one to be. thrown at me." So, it was fun. >> And did they find out who threw it even? Because. >> Oh, yeah. They have cameras like. everywhere in those arenas. So, they. like narrow it down to the person. They. get like banned for life. >> Damn. But if you really think about. this, >> Yeah. >> if you got hit by one and like it didn't. hit your foot and legit like hit your. face or something, that could hurt. >> from that far.

>> And if it had batteries in it or. whatever. >> Yeah. >> Or if it was weighted or whatever. Like. >> that's what I'm saying. Could have broke. my schnoz. >> Oh, if somebody would have [ __ ] hed, think about that though. >> I've already thought about it cuz I was. like that year that was last year. I was. like, someone's going to get hit like. someone's legit going to get hit in the. face by a dildo. And then, you know, that's going to be all over the. internet. >> Yeah. >> So, I was just hoping it wasn't me. >> I don't know. >> Yeah. Um, anyway, Sophie Cunningham. Good to see. you.

>> Nice seeing you. >> Um, you're So, you're from Missouri, right? That's where you grew up. >> And were your parents athletes or what. was there? >> Yeah, our whole like family played. sports actually at the University of. Missouri. So, like grandpa, aunts, uncles, mom, dad, cousins, sister, like. it was in the bloodline to go there. So, >> was it just one sport? Or was it all. hoops or was it. >> for like our whole family? Yeah. >> Um the men were pretty much football and. then like all the women were basketball. and track and field. >> More the field portion than the track, but. >> still successful. >> What does the field mean? Like shot put.

>> Yeah. Like shot put, javelin, throwing. those events. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. >> I never I don't know if I ever really. even seen that that much. You don't see. like I don't know. >> Did you play sports? >> I play basketball. Bring it up. Oh god, why did I ask? >> I know it's not even worth talking to. me, but we'll keep this going for. another few years. Uh, we got one good. pick. That's me right there. >> Bottom left.

>> We had a couple. >> I don't know why I was looking at top. right. I was like, that is not you. But uh also some of these pictures I. mean some of these people look like they. like. this looks like it's from like the. 1800s. Bro, what filter is this? >> Whoever uploaded that is a messed up. person. >> Do they not have like p like colored. pictures back then? >> Yeah. Well, obviously they did. >> Where? >> Look at six of my teammates, bro.

>> No. No. like like colored pictures like. like when you take a picture and Oh my. god. >> Yeah, bro. We had color photography. dudes. >> Yeah, that's what I was getting at. >> Yeah, but we just didn't I think they. didn't pay for it in our town. >> and so this is what we got. But yeah, bro, I was I was pretty good actually, but I just don't know. I like to smoke. and stuff. I was enjoying I liked I was. a childhood smoker or whatever. >> and that was something that I also. enjoyed. >> Like sigs or blunts? >> Cigarettes.

>> Oh. >> And so the coaches kind of frowned on. that. Well, were you like 13? Like how. old are you? Yeah. I mean, >> but they didn't want you smoking after. practice or whatever. It was like it. gives a team a bad name. It gives the. town a bad name. So, we had differences. of opinion on that. Are there any um. >> So, did you quit the team or quit the. sigs? >> I quit the team, but I'm fine. Okay. >> You Yeah, that's I don't know. I would I. think I always some see those people. that have like that the TRA thing.

>> Oh, freaks me out. like on the. commercials and stuff. >> and they'll still smoke some of them. >> I know. >> they'll just put that they'll put like. um bring up that people who still smoke. with the tracheotomy. >> and that's probably and you could put. Indiana after it if you want cuz we we. know where it happens. No, this is diagrams, bro. Do not take. me to eighth grade. Put me in the real I. want to see boots on the ground. Okay, I. want to see boots on the ground. There. we go.

And is she hitting it? >> Oh. Oh, the the TRA has a hole for the. cigarette. >> Yeah, there's people that will smoke. right through that TRA hole. >> Oh, I have never seen that. >> Yeah, that was a big thing when people. were tra smoking for a while. Um, >> I don't think that was a thing. >> Yeah. All right. >> Got a weird kink going on over there. What's going on? >> You guys are the ones [ __ ] throwing. wieners at each other. >> We were not. The the random fans. They. weren't even our fans, you know. Is this.

>> Oh, this is just somebody trying to. >> Oh, he does. >> Ew. That just grosses me out. >> What? >> That like is. >> What? >> You like that? I can't even look at that. again. >> What do you mean like it? >> Like you have a hole in your throat for. a reason and that's what you're doing? >> No. Look, I I'm not saying I support it. >> I know. I can't watch it again. >> I think it's very n I will say this. It's cultural appropriate of of Native. Americans. Play it again. >> Yeah, these are white folks. I know, but. that guy's using smoke signals to order.

>> Oh, what else? What else can you put in. there? Not in a weird way, like uh like. can people eat through that? >> Yeah, you could probably put use berries. or something up to maybe pecans or. something. >> If you put a blueberry and it like it. got stuck into Are you choked? >> That's horrible, >> dude. The most horrible thing is when. you freaking you take a sip of water and. it it goes down. People are like it goes. down the wrong pipe. Like suddenly. they're a plumber or whatever. And then. you're just like and you. >> you can't breathe. Everyone thinks it's.

funny but like you're dying. >> but you try to pretend like you're fine. like and you know you have to like be. like you know what I'm talking about or. not. >> Yeah. Cuz you're like trying to not. cough or like do it politely. >> Yeah. Is there a term for that? There's. got to be a term for that cuz people. suffer from it all the time. >> Anyway, let's get into this episode. Sophie Cunningham. Uh this is just how. it is today. Sophie, did your um did was. there a lot of expectations on you to. play sports when you were a kid or just. something you wanted to do? No. Like if. your family does it that much? Would it. be weird if you were like a gamer or if.

you were like um you know if you were. doing something that wasn't like if you. weren't an athlete? >> There you go. Um. no, like we have I mean I feel like. everyone in our family actually did play. sports. So at least like. >> look have some support. Okay. If I ca if. every time you guys went up for a layup. >> and you smoked it and we smoked it out. our little pipe hole. >> Yeah. >> Just support me when I can't get through. a sentence. Okay. If every time you guys. went for a layup and it didn't I still.

si sat there. >> You're right. >> Okay. How many layups were missed in the. W last year? Let's put that up. >> A lot. Oh my god. I I will say I mean. our our my family and friend group say. the same thing. They're like, "How the. hell does a league that is like the pro, you know, like and and we have some. phenomenal athletes. Like we're we could. kill people, right? Like we're good at. it, but we do smoke a lot of layups.". >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Sometimes it just happens. It could be. nerves. It could be.

>> No, not my teammates. >> The WNBA does not officially track or. publish an aggregate leaguewide total. for missed layups. Official league. statistics track overall missed field. goals. That's not really fair. No, field. goals doesn't count cuz like Kel, she. shoots the [ __ ] out of the like the. three-point line, the three ball. Same. as Caitlyn. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that doesn't really track then. Um, >> looks like we make all our layups. >> Yeah. >> No stat doesn't count. >> Did you uh did you were you one of those.

kids that's that got into basketball. early because they got tall? >> Great question, actually. Um, >> thanks. >> No. Yeah, because that's a valid. question. A lot of kids do that, right? Like, oh, you're tall. go play. basketball or you know. >> is there anything yeah once somebody. gets tall they have to be the modeler. have to play basketball. >> no just go be a normal human but um. >> I can I'm tall. say something glad I didn't um. >> really that doesn't seem like you. >> know look at me having restraint so um.

we grew up playing everything and when I. say we it's like me and my sister we. best friends and so we did every sport. together and I knew from like a young. age. You know how like kids who are. doctors, they like were naturally really. good at school from a really young age. Like same with like a lot of musicians. and singers, like you're just have a. natural talent. Yeah. >> That's how I was with sports. And so I. knew from a young age like I was going. to be a pro athlete one way or another. I didn't know if it was going to be. basketball, volleyball, or soccer. Like. those were my three. Um and like I just.

naturally loved basketball more. So I. knew like and when I say young, I'm. talking about like three, four, five. years old. What? >> Like I I just knew that like. >> so young. >> Well, I knew I wasn't like. >> how do you even know? Do you have a. diary or something? >> I know. No, I just like that's always. been my mindset. Like I was just good at. it and like I had so much fun doing it. I loved it. So I was just like this is. where I belong. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's your sister right there? >> Yeah. That's Lindsay. She's the best. Like she's the the best sister out of. all of us. >> Is she a better person than you? You.

think? >> Probably 100%. >> Yeah. >> And anyone who like knows us would say. the same thing. >> That's fair. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. My brother's the same way. >> Older or younger? >> He's older than me. He's just better. than me. But I'll catch up. >> Um Oh, that's nice. And is Lindsay Hoop. still? >> We played at Missou together. >> Oh, did. >> Yeah, it was fun. >> No way. >> We had two years together. It was so. much fun. A glory days. Do you guys. really have to bring that up? >> We can sub it in with a different. picture. >> Yeah, that'd be great. >> But we won't look. I'll tell you this, a. lot of dudes would throw a wiener at.

that one. Okay. Honestly, I don't even. care because like nowadays. >> people in college have are like doing. Pilates and drinking green juice and. like and like back then Missou was. making us eat and lift like football. players. >> Really? >> So when I like look back I'm like. honestly not mad about it cuz I was. doing what I was supposed to. >> Oh, it sounds like you have some. aggression towards them. >> No. No, I'm just kidding. No, I just. feel like that's like what was the. >> Were any y'all have any smokers on the. team?

>> No. like sigs. Yeah. >> Like maybe a drunk sig here and there. Yeah. And that was me. >> Yeah. >> But you know, everyone else know like. everyone. >> you're like I don't think we had any I. don't think we had any smokers on the. team. You're not a smoker. >> No. I No, I'm not actually a smoker, but. I will have a good drunk sig. I love. him. >> Did you smoke a lot of weed growing up. or not? >> No. Like I'm really not I I don't know. why I think my family just beaten like.

drugs are bad and I know like weed. people are like it's not a drug what. like whatever growing up we considered. it a drug. >> Um but I like we've I mean we we drank. >> but. >> that was kind of hard. We did it like we. we did alcohol. That's what I was about. to say. >> We drank alcohol but we didn't we didn't. get into drugs. So. >> which I'm not mad about. Like I'm so. glad they beat that into us. >> Yeah. Don't feel bad about yourself. because you didn't do drugs. >> Like I'm proud. >> Sophie. That's crazy. >> No, I don't feel bad. Like I'm proud.

that I don't I'm not a druggie. >> Okay. Yeah. Good. >> Like I I think that's a good thing. >> It is kind of weird though. You'll meet. people now and they're like, "Yeah, man. I'm sorry I never did any drugs or. whatever.". >> But that's kind of sad, isn't it? >> It's so sad. >> Like it that's a good thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. All right. Moving. on. Uh, you know that Prize Picks is America's. number one sports picks app. The app is. really easy to use. That's what I like.

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traveling with kind of like fans in the. public. We didn't have private flights. >> Y'all didn't have any fans either to be. honest. I mean. >> that one really just bit me in the ass. >> Sorry. Sorry. >> Yep. >> Maybe that was kind of rude. >> No, it's not. I do. I literally don't. care. >> Well, was there fan? Was there more? I. mean, there's more fans now. >> Well, yeah. Like, there's definitely no. way we could do it now, but I think you. have a good point. >> That was rude. Actually, I'm joking. That was just me joking. >> Dude, I don't like I. >> I care though. >> Okay, but I don't. Okay. >> And like here's my thing is. >> hold on. I need you to care a little.

bit. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. >> Somebody has to apologize and it's going. to be me. I'm sorry. >> Thanks. But I will say from like your. point of view on that, we weren't on TV. Like how were people going to know who. we were? Like that's not anyone's fault. It's not your fault. It's not our fault. >> Yeah. People Some people. >> How did you know who we were then? >> Because I saw some of y'all's gear and I. I know that um. >> Terasi was playing with you guys. So I. saw her. Yeah. That was that was the. main one that I saw. And I saw um and I. saw you, I remember. And I saw um.

>> Well, we had we had uh you' probably. know BG Britney Grinder. >> And y'all had Britney Grinder, too. >> Yeah. And Diana. Those are like the two. stars, >> right? And so I kind of was like milling. around. It was like baggage claim and I. was like milling around. Anyway, I. actually almost came up to get a photo. Uh but I think I was like, what am I. doing now? I'm just standing around and. somebody had children. And one of the. women had children that were their wife. and children were with them. I think. >> it was probably Diana. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, >> it might have been. Um, but how much has. the league changed from whenever you got.

in to where it's at now? >> Dude, night and day. Yeah. You can't. even compare the two. And. >> so it's incomparable. >> I mean, I think the talent you can. because like the talent has always been. there. Like there has been some. phenomenal phenomenal people go through. the WNBA. Yeah. >> But we just didn't have the um the. platform that we do now. Like we didn't. have the TV deals. We didn't have we we. just weren't exposed. Like people. couldn't watch games. I remember like my. first three or four years like my. parents had to like download some weird. app and like even then it was like a.

black screen the entire time. Like it. was just you could not watch games. And. so um I definitely think like the last I. don't know three, four, three years. pretty much that you know that class of. Caitlyn Cameron Brink Haye Vanlith um. Angel like that class they just had the. platform they had the eyes. They had the. audience from college. Um, and they. brought it into the W and now it's just. exploded like and people love us. Like. if you put it us if you put really any. women's sports on TV, people are going. to fall in love with it. And my biggest. thing that I love about it is like.

little girls, they can find someone our. our league is so diverse that they can. find someone on TV that like looks like. them or comes from where they come from. and then we're inspiring them to be the. next us someday. And so I think that's. the coolest part about having this. platform is like it's accessible and. people can watch it and you inspire the. the youth. So I love that. Yeah. Oh, it's crazy to think that you that your. parents had to do that. Like, how do we. watch it? Like, we have to go under a. bridge. Like, we have to meet somebody. or something. Like, we have to like. That's unbelievable. >> I mean, I'm like not I'm happy of where.

we're at now, but I also like love those. times, too, cuz I'm like in the perfect. spot of uh I saw where the W is at, but. I'm also like reaping the benefits of. the people who came before me even of. like leading us to where we're at now. And so, I didn't get all this right. away. And so I had a I saw kind of the. bad parts of it, if that makes sense. But now I'm reaping the good parts of. being in the WNBA. Does that make any. sense? >> Um yeah, I think it has it makes sense. in the way that it feels like you were. there like um it almost feels a little. bit more like you at least were there in.

some of the years where it was tougher. >> Yes. Exactly. Cuz like some of these and. it's not their fault. It's just like how. old they are. Like they come in and they. they. >> they just think it's hype. >> Yes. And they like they don't they all. they know is private flights. All they. know is the nicest hotels. All they know. is like you have security. My first five. years we had zero security. Yeah. And. like there's an in. >> Oh, I was loitering around y'all at the. airport. >> Yeah. Stalker. Like where's our. security? And so No. Like so. >> the first thing a stalker says when he. gets busted is like actually I was just. here doing security.

>> How do you know that? >> Huh? I just there's different I've. interviewed some of these people um at. home by myself. So yeah. Um anyway, what. are we talking about, dude? Somebody. help me out. God, what is wrong with me. today? Uh, so here's some information. right here. It says regular season, same. method for both leagues, playby-play. Um, >> oh, wait, that's damn near the same. thing. >> Wow. So, this says miss layups per team. per game. The NBA,

>> don't mind don't mind how many games. they play compared to us. >> Okay, hold on. The. >> I just called us out. Sorry, girls. >> So, per team in the NBA, the men miss. 7.6 layups per 40 minutes and the women. miss 9.6. seven. >> Okay, I'm just going to talk a little. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, >> because I understand that we miss a lot. of layups. >> Um, we also can't really majority of us. can't dunk the ball. And if I was a man. and I was able to dunk, I'd be dunking. that thing every single time. >> Yeah. What are you even doing, dude? >> Like, you're that high up there. Like,

just [ __ ] [ __ ] dunk it. >> Yeah. What are you doing, guy? Mister, here's what you That that should have an. asterk by it. That's like, also, these. dudes are [ __ ] [ __ ] for not. dunking the ball. >> I'm just making myself feel better. Okay. >> No, but you did a really good job of. actually reframing that. And I'll say. this, um, I think that's one thing that. I can relate to about the WNBA is can't. dunk, right? Sometimes miss layups. And, um, yeah, and some and your like I can't.

remember what the third one is. But anyway, Taccoas, guys, when. when you're stuck in a shitty. conversation, >> just switch the subject all together. >> These nice boots will get you on your. way. Uh, you were saying that um there. was an incident when you guys didn't. have security and it was like So, yeah. Tell me about a time when it was when it. was more hectic. >> When we weren't secure. >> Yeah. When you were in Yeah. >> When I was a little insecure. >> Yeah. Yeah. When you didn't have a.

firewall. >> Yeah. Literally. Um, no. We were going. through the airport and um you know. stuff has like had happened that year. and whatnot. Um but Britney Grinder gets. like the worst rap. She is like the. coolest person you will ever meet. Swear. to God. Yes. Like you would you and her. would be best friends. She's down to. earth. She's country. Like just chill. Super chill. >> And um so I I want to shout that out. before I even tell the story. >> Okay. Yeah. She does get a the rat the. or the energy you feel for some reason. is different about her. >> Yeah. No, she's the best. And so.

something happened at the airport and we. literally had zero security and we got. like swarmed and they were all kind of. going like after her a little bit and so. we all kind of like us as players like. put a circle around her and like there. was one guy who I guess he was kind of. our security I I don't I don't know. And. like he was carrying um her actually. Louis Vuitton bags. >> Okay, that's. >> No, listen to this. No, listen to this. This is funny. Hold on. And I I was like.

I was the caboose and like he saw it was. happening. So he ran and to like push. those people away, but when he did it, he threw the bags and it came back and. cracked me right in the nose. And I was. like, damn. I was like I was trying to. help, but I just get cracked by like a. $5,000 bag right in my schnoz black eye. the next day. It was great. >> People were like, all I'm saying is the. WNBA is crazy and we tried to talk to. Britney Griner and some gay guy hit one. of their own players. Oh, he wasn't gay. >> I know he wasn't, but he was also. carrying a Louis Vuitton bag for a WNBA.

player. So, I'm just saying. >> it comes across unique, but anyway. So, but yeah, that's dangerous. And you're. the one that got you the victim. >> Like I Yeah, >> you were the victim. >> I was the victim. >> You end up in a lot of kind of spaces. like that. I feel like. >> I'm the victim. >> Yeah. >> Or like you just end up in the scuffle. >> I don't mean to. I I literally don't. mean to. Really? I don't I mean like. you're really telling me that I planned. for someone to come like I was trying to. get the caboose of her so they didn't. come behind and all a sudden someone.

comes and throws a bag and I'm the one. who has broken your friend. It's your. friend. >> No, but I'm saying like the guy came up. and just threw the bag. Like how was I. going to know that going to hit me in. the face? >> You're right. >> You know. >> you're right about that. [ __ ] smoke through my neck. >> Can you see my napkins? >> No. >> No. >> Is napkins a euphemism for something? That's all. >> No. No. >> Oh, okay. I didn't know what you're. talking about. >> You gave me napkins. >> My bad. I don't know if there's like I. just didn't know if there's like I I.

just I didn't know. Yeah. I just didn't. know if there's like a lot of like. >> Wait, that's actually hilarious. >> A lot. Yeah. I didn't know if there's. like a lot of sexual euphemisms out. there or whatever. >> Never heard that one. >> And somebody's like, "Hey." Yeah. Anyway, moving on. Uh I can't see your. napkins. I haven't looked either. I'm a. gentleman. >> Thank Thank you. >> Okay. Um, how much did things change. kind of when that class came in with. like um Angel Reese, Caitlyn Clark, uh, Cameron Brink, um, Bukers was the year. after her, I think. >> Um, but how much when this new energies.

come in, like how much did things change. and how and how quickly did you notice. it as a player? Yeah, I think like night. and day and immediately like you just. have Now I will say like being drafted. out to Phoenix because I had Diana. Terasi who's the goat of our game. because of BG like I our games were. always sold out. So like the soldout. crowds were nothing new to me now like. >> being in Indiana. >> Oh, you guys were always sold out at the. >> Yeah. Like we are I've been very blessed. with where I've played truly because you. would go like when I got drafted Indiana.

I think they only had like 200 fans like. it was I mean it was nap town like. people went there to catch up on sleep. you play a game and you wanted to get. out but like now it's like the place you. want to play people that's like people's. Super Bowl coming into gamebridge Arena. like it's I mean you've been in it the. energy yeah like it's fun and so now. every arena is like that and so I think. since that new class Um, you you truly. do you have the the private flights, you. have security. Um, I know some teams are.

still kind of working on making sure. everyone gets to a certain level, but I. know that the fever are there. Like. we're we're at the highest level you can. get at, right? And so like operationally. >> Yeah. operationally um our security and. I know like we keep saying that, but. like it's a huge it's a big deal. Like. the more um that people the more you're. visible on TV um you're going to get. more fans. Like people are going to know. who you are and that's a really great. thing. But there's also a lot of like. kind of crazy people too that like we do. have a lot of stalkers. I know I do. And. like that's a negative side of things.

that people don't think about. Um and so. you you do want to feel secure. But. >> have you received like have you had. stalkers like. >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. Like I we'll have to. check if I'm even allowed to say this, but like I like have I think 20 I think. people kind of that the FBI are watching. for me. Me alone. >> really. What are some of those names? I. mean, I don't know. I know. Yeah. I I'm. definitely not allowed to say that. I. know one of them. You do? >> Yeah. I mean, he's locked away now. >> What? They locked him up because he was.

talking to you. >> Actually, this is public knowledge. Yeah. His name's Kevin. And the worst. part about that is like my I have a. miniature donkey named Kevin. And now. I'm like, well, [ __ ] Do I need to. rename Kevin? >> Oh, sometimes when he looks at you, too. >> And I wonder if he's an if he's working. for that guy somehow if he could be. channeling visual like. >> you. >> You don't think that's possible? I mean, I don't know. [ __ ] I don't know. But. no. >> Yeah, you're right. You're ass stupid. >> This was two hours ago. Um, >> judge denies bail reduction for Sophie.

Cunningham's alleged stalker. The man. accused of stalking Indiana fever regard. Sophie Cunningham, that's you, was. denied a bail reduction at Marian County. Superior Court hearing October 23rd. >> Good work, judge. >> Good job. >> Thanks for clapping everybody. >> Uh, that made me feel good. >> So, that's got to be crazy then. Did did. you have soccer before? >> No. Why would I? >> Well, I mean just if you're you still. playing. >> Well, yeah. But. >> but since it's gotten different. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I will say. like even just the I don't know the.

skill level of our game is always. getting better. The athleticism of these. young Bucks are I mean so many people in. our league can dunk now. That's insane. Really? >> Yeah. And like the the younger classes. even who are like in high school and. college like people are just getting. more and more athletic. So I'm just like. >> rattle off. So you guys have the one I. know you have one girl on your team that. can dunk. >> Yeah, KK definitely can. She hasn't done. in a game. We have another girl named. Shel who she's like a player development. player. Um she can dunk. >> Yeah. >> But like. >> I I went up to KK one time when I. started walking in the casino. >> She's the best. >> I was like you play for the Fever, don't.

you? She's like, "Yeah, >> she is the best. Just chill.". >> That's cool. Yeah. >> I was kind of excited. Aaliyah Boston's. probably my favorite player. >> Really? >> Yeah, I think so. >> That's Ballsy of me sitting right here. But you're also. >> also. >> a good player. >> Thanks. Thanks. >> No, I mean. >> I'm literally kidding. >> I mean, yeah. Uh I'm a Fever fan, >> dude. I'm kidding. No, I love being a. Fever fan, dude. It's been good. >> No, but Aaliyah Boston just got Just. watching her get better is so much. It's. like amazing. >> Oh, I was mean. I thought it was like.

200. It's It was actually 6,000. >> Yeah. Actually, you know what? Here's a. stat right here. It says here the uh. here are the Fevers regular season home. game averages. Average per home game. Uh. oh. In 2018, the average was 6,300. And. then in 2026, the average is 16. >> Look at 2022 though. Like that's the one. I remember. >> In 2022, the average was 1,700 fans. >> We were also in like a coliseum that. they do the state fair at. But even. then, >> still that was co times though.

>> Was it still co. >> I mean it was like coming back from CO. Either way is Yeah, that was a rough. year. >> I love how people just use that term. Like people today also like well co I'm. like. >> yeah they're like my husband left or. whatever. like, "Yeah, he got I got co. >> I've never heard that one.". >> But people were using it for everything. Yeah, >> I got busted for pedophilia, but it was. COVID times, you know? You're like, "That's that doesn't matter." You know. what I'm saying? Like, that's still a. crime. Okay. Still a bad deal, buddy.

Um, oh, have uh have the halftime shows. gotten better like as well with success? Like what were some of the early. halftime shows? >> Uh, well, I mean, I was in the locker room, so I don't necessarily. >> That's true. That's true. >> Hey, can you wait? I'm going to go check. out what the halftime shows are quick. I. don't know. Like. >> Well, what I really want to know is how. did you end up with a miniature pony? That's what I want to know. >> Dude, I don't know. Where was that? >> You was in Indie. No, you said you had a. small horse. That's all I'm saying. Oh,

I mean we I mean we have like horses, donkeys, mules, and like we just thought. a men would be kind of fun. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. It's not. something you have in the house. >> No, that'd be gross. >> Would it? I have no idea. >> I mean, do you want horseshit stepping. out of the shower? >> No, I didn't know if people have those. I don't know if they put diapers on. them. I don't know what that's like. >> I mean, you do see that like on I guess. social media of like the pigs and like. the I guess there are like goats and. stuff that are I don't know. >> Oh, dude. Some freaking lady had a uh.

kangaroo on an airplane and had had a. diaper on it. Bring it up. >> Bring up that rue they found on that. plane. >> Oh, you weren't on it. >> No, that it was diapered though. >> Wait, but if you were on it, then what? >> Then I would have like I don't know. I. probably would have rung that buzzer, you know. Dude, when they hear that. buzzer, they get so pissed. Here you go. Look at this. >> What? >> Yeah. >> An emotional support kangaroo. I think they did ban them. I mean, it's. kind of cute. No, I know it's cute, but. look at him. First of all, he's mixed.

But second of all, look at this, bro. I mean, it's just like, what a world are. we living in? >> Is it strapped in? >> Huh? >> Like, is it belted in? >> He's carrying his own ticket. How are. you missing the obvious things? You. can't even. >> I just can I just. >> just give him some credit. So, >> Dude, I I I didn't even notice he was. holding his own ticket. >> And he knows CPR. The craziest thing is. those animals know CPR. Actually, a. kangaroo would be good at CPR. They have. very powerful uh hind they if they use.

their if they were able to use their. legs and stuff to push forward. >> I think kangaroos get their power from. their tail. >> Well, dude, if that thing beat the. [ __ ] air back into my lungs, that'd. be sick. You're just And then you're. like, "Come back.". Drew Drewuski and I were talking about. getting a W. Oh, there he is right. there. And that one. >> Oh my gosh. >> All I'm going to say is that one's from. Sacramento. If you know, you know. Um, >> what were you about to say? You and.

Drewie were about to what? >> Oh, me and Drewie thought about starting. a We talked about starting a WNBA team. We're trying to um. >> in Nashville. >> Yeah. Or try to get one somewhere. >> Do it. >> Does Austin? Um, no. >> We thought about doing it, but we. couldn't. We're trying to think of like. a good team name. One that's real. You. know, >> this should be good. >> Yeah. We didn't know what to do. The. studs maybe. We were thinking or the. Nashville licks maybe like a like a. guitar lick. You think that'd be viable. or not? Or is that too.

You think it's too crazy or whatever? Or. do you think I think it would be good? >> I mean, >> I mean, yeah, we were talking about. trying to trying to maybe be a part of a. team somehow. It'd be pretty cool, I. think. >> Dude, I think you guys would thrive. >> You do? >> Yeah. I mean, already the team name. I. think that is like a marketing genius. idea. >> Do you think people would come and play. for it? >> I mean, yeah. I mean, the shoe fits. Yeah, you're right about that. If the. Timberland fits, you know, >> it is what it is. But yeah, I'll have to. see if he's still interested in that.

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think would be better to like that you. can talk about that you think would be. better to help the league? >> I mean I think first of all that is a. very hard position to be in and like. give her a little bit of credit. when. she started the league is not what it. was now and so we're we're in the. process of getting a new commissioner. I. don't know if you know that. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yeah. So, she this is her last. >> I guess kind of like couple weeks or I. don't I don't know when when she's. stepping down. >> Mhm. >> So, we'll see here. Honestly, I have no.

idea. >> Oh, December. >> she's retiring. >> I mean, that's one way to put it. Um I. would say I think. >> retiring by force they call it sometimes. as well. I think that's more like it. Um, I think Adam Silver does a. phenomenal job of having a relationship. with his NBA players. Um, and so I just. think that's what we need on the W side, like where we're at as a league. Like we. need someone to come in here who has a. backbone, um, who's going to stick to, you know, what they do, um, and hold the.

standard, but also like we do have a lot. of people who come from a lot of. different backgrounds. Um, it's a very. diverse a diverse league which I think. is awesome but you also need someone who. uh has a common goal like a goal and. bringing everyone together to like try. to get that goal. And so um I think it. needs to be a player and owners league. first. And so like that's like having a. relationship like you don't have a boss, you are the boss. >> But say you had a boss. >> God is my real boss. >> There you go. I like that. Well, it's.

like honestly him walking in here and. him not even saying hi to you. And so. like it's like no, like we're in the. Yeah. Like say hi, be human, be nice. And I think that's all we're really. asking for is a little bit of respect. and just like be a normal human. Like. we're all trying to work for the same. goal. We all want to make the WNBA the. best it can be, right? >> So I think in order to do that, you need. great communication. You need to be. open. You need to have our backs. Um you. need to have the owner's backs. We're. not always going to get along. We're not. always going to agree and the majority. of the time we're not going to get what. we want as players. Mhm. >> Uh but just having that open line of. communication and respect I think is.

huge and I think we deserve that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So you think that there's more potential. for that forthcoming? >> 100%. Like there has to be. There has to. be. And I think she she did a lot of. good things, but again like you've got. to be willing to have a growth mindset. You have to be willing to to grow and um. want to grow our league, want this to be. the best league and have this be the the. standard of all female sports leagues, right? And so in order to do that, you. have to have someone who's, you know, willing to stick to their guns a little. bit, push the limits a little bit, but. also like I don't know, be normal at the.

same time. Like I I don't think that's. really that hard. Yeah. >> To do. >> Do you think she was just too business. focused or too or just like. >> Dude, I don't know. Like I don't I don't. I don't know her. Like I don't talk to. She doesn't talk to any of us. So how. would how would we know? >> Right. Here's Dan Patrick right here on. WBA Commissioner Kathy Ingleberg. canceling her appearance on the show. If. you want to be treated as a serious. league, this is what happens. These are. tough questions, but this is a fair. Should we just play it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> This was a couple weeks after this is. when she stepped down. It was like when.

there was a lot of pressure on her, but. this is really funny. >> Yesterday, we were hoping to do an. interview with Kathy Engelberg. She's. the WNBA commissioner. >> Todd uh spoke to her a couple of nights. ago and we had a pairings party. Todd. went up to her. She's been very friendly. to the show. last year at this event was. friendly to us and Todd said, "Hey, we'd. love to have you on. There's a lot of. questions. People have not heard answers. from the commissioner and she said yes.". So yesterday after the show, we waited.

almost 2 hours for her. This was. scheduled and she's 50 yards away. She's. getting practice shots out of the. bunker. So that's what's disappointing. We. deserve more respect than what she gave. us yesterday. We want to cover the WNBA. >> The PR staff. Somebody did a disservice. to this. >> I love how they picked somebody. >> She kind of see she gives some Biden. energy too there. >> Just dis like there's a little Biden.

energy from me in that. >> But he's saying they felt disrespected. Why? >> She bailed on the last at the last. second for the the meeting. So. >> I see. And they were looking forward to. it. >> Well, like here's our thing. >> You need you need a you need a. spokesperson. Well, and also like we. have been screaming from the rooftops. since this league started that like we. want respect. We want uh to be on. mainstream TV. We don't want to people. have to go to weird websites to watch. us. Like we have been asking for. equality and now that we have it like.

pressure is a privilege. Like you got to. step up to the plate and that doesn't. mean it's always going to be easy. Like. that is a very tough job. You're going. to have to answer really tough. questions. You're going to have to um. maybe not always know the answer. But. it's okay to admit when you don't know. and and say that that's why you have a. whole staff around you so you can be. your best self and and lean on them. Like no one's great by themselves. That's why everyone has a village. And. so I just think we need someone. representing the WNBA um who's who's. willing to do the hard, who's embracing. the hard. And also like that's a really. cool freaking job too. Like I mean.

that's a badass job. And so like be. proud of that. Want want to be. interviewed, want to promote your. product. Like I just don't understand. that point of you're denying an. interview, but people are wanting to. talk to us finally, so why are we. denying it, >> right? >> I don't get that. >> Yeah, maybe she's shy. >> You know what? Maybe she is. We'll We'll. give her that. We'll give her a little. bit of grace. She's shy. >> The shy commissioner, they'll call her. >> Yeah, >> some people are shy, but sometimes you. can't wait forever for them to figure it.

out. >> Well, also, that's not the job. If. you're shy, then. >> Yeah. Why did Why was she picked in the. first place? >> Yeah, do something different. Just work. indoors or something. Um or do something. calmer. Work at a like a trying to think. of somewhere I would work if I was real. shy. I guess maybe um library or movie. work in the movie projector at a. theater. Um toll booth, but now people. get chatty with those people. >> My buddy was trying to flirt with this. toll booth lady for like two years cuz. every time he'd go by he'd get like one. word into her, you know?

>> Oh god. And so finally he got her. number, but it took like he would she. would yell the number like each time he. came through, dude. He communicated with. her for like two years and finally he. kind of got her number and [ __ ] and they. went out one time. >> No way. >> Yeah. Swear to God. But it didn't it. didn't work out. But. >> cuz they only know how to say one word. when they were on the date. >> Well, he'd be going No. He be going on. that date. They're like. >> what? Yeah. >> Or Yeah. That'd be so stupid, dude. I. got to get some help for myself. But I'm.

going to be fine. Uh anyway, >> were you the friend? >> No. I don't know if I've ever been like. somebody like that. Oh, dude. I'll tell. you one time I left um. >> I was at the bank and I've been trying. to flirt with this teller, right? And so. I finally get up the courage and I'm. like, "Oh, I'm going to write her a. note." But then I'm at the bank writing. a note on a thing and then as I'm. slipping it through the thing, you can. see her face like, >> "Uhoh.". >> Yeah. I think she thought it was going. to be a crime. >> Oh. cuz I was like putting a note. through the thing. >> and um and she just kind of went like.

this. So she might have been married or. she might have just like been like the. alarms are going to go off, you know. >> Feel that? >> Weirdly. I don't When's the last time. you've been to a bank to do that? >> Um this was probably 3 years ago. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Oh wow. >> Well, I was living in LA and it's I just. like it was more fun going on errands. there because the weather's always nice. So it's just like you get out and it's. so great. >> I feel that actually. >> You know, it's like okay, I'm going to. go to the bank. >> Yeah. like get outside and actually do. something. >> Yeah. You're like, "Hey, I'm at the. bank. Who works at the bank?" Dude, when.

I was a kid, if you went to the bank, bro, they had like candy. It was good. >> Suckers. >> Yeah. And they had that uh You remember. that that thing that would go up through. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You could watch it. You could watch your. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I like that. >> And you'd be like, "Oh, that's our. money.". >> You know, and then um in high school, we. would get those things and we would like. fill them with weed. We'd like turn them. into like for smoking dope or whatever. >> Dope. stole it. >> Well, no. We would use it in the car and. then we would send it back into the. people and they would. >> and it have smoke in it. Oh, you.

[ __ ] Or did they like it? >> Well, one or the other. >> They never complained about it. >> I don't even know what we're talking. about, dude. How do you think How many. points do you think I. >> Oh, God. How many points do you think I. could score in a WNBA game? >> Dude, I All I've seen is a picture of. you in. When was that? How old were you? All I. know is you were ripping sigs and you. chose Sigs over basketball. So,

honestly, I'd say you wouldn't score a. point. >> Whoa, Sophie, that's not even that fair. >> Is that too harsh? >> I think I would score eight points. if you let me play for three quarters. I'm going to need a little bit of rest. >> Like, what did you what did you do. >> like when you when you took a break from. Sigs and you came back to the game? Were. you like a point guard? Were you a. shooter? Were you smoking lays? >> I was I was a power forward probably. I.

was a slight forward. >> Something slight. Uh yeah, nothing. I. was good for. >> left bench. >> I was good. I was good for six points, I. think, >> back then. >> Yeah, but that's cuz they didn't give me. a lot of playing time. Dude, >> dude, if you're not getting playing time. then, >> they had racial b they had a big racial. >> You're not even That's all I'm saying. there was a big racial barrier in our. league. Okay. >> And we were not getting a lot of playing. time.

>> Um and that's when the Yeah. So I've had. a different W that's kept me on the. bench. Okay. >> Dude, you're an idiot. >> I know, but I'm good at it. >> You are. >> Thank you. >> You're a pro at it. Um, oh, h how much. um how how much of uh cuz for some. reason you guys' league creates a lot. like for some reason there's like so. much energy coming out of it. Do you. feel like that? >> Yeah, I do. >> And maybe it's cuz it's women and that's. where like the world like the the that's. like the creation of like life, you.

know? I don't know. >> So, it's like that creates like a lot of. like different energy. But do you feel. like the media makes way more [ __ ]. than. >> Dude, yes. Like that is actually part of. our problem. is like the media around. the W and. >> it's gross. It it really is because like. you are stirring stuff up that doesn't. even exist and then like we all see it. and it's like wait is there. >> like no there's not and like a lot of. the beef in between players on social. media like they don't even talk they've. never even really had a real. relationship so like it's strictly media.

and honestly I just started a podcast. myself and yeah it's called no hezy and. I me and Drew Hanlin do it and it's like. strictly basketball and it's like where. you can like all we do is actually talk. about what real and good basketball. looks And it's just an outlet for WNBA, NBA, because there's not on the WNBA. side, like all these people covering us. I wouldn't say all because I don't want. to discredit the people who do do a good. job, but like the majority, they just. want the clickbait. Like they just want. um the drama because that's where the.

attention pulls, but like there's so. much like so many great things going on. in our league that like that needs to be. highlighted, the people playing at an. elite elite level. Like why are we not. highlighting highlighting and breaking. down those people's film? Like that. makes no sense to me. And so that's kind. of why we started this because I. personally have seen the awesome things. that you know social media can give you. But I've also seen the real negative. like bad stuff that it also brings. And. it's like okay, it's never as good as it. seems. It's never as bad as it seems. So.

like why can't we just have like real. basketball journalism? So that's what. I'm here for. >> Nice. Well, yeah. I don't I just don't. know if real journalism even exists. anymore. >> I don't know. Well, I would say like the. NBA and like I would say like NBA, NFL, MLB, they don't have the the drama and. like their people are actually covering. stats in sports and like good stories. where ours it's like barely any of the. real basketball. Like it's all about and. I think it's cool that people are. wanting to know who we are and like yes,

write stories on how we were raised and. X Y and Z, but also like cover what we. do for a living. We're we have this. platform for a reason. that's the only. reason why you know us is because of. basketball. So like that should be the. majority of it and it's not. >> Yeah. I I agree and it's I mean I do. think the media creates they that that's. part of it. Right. It is they want to. create. >> they're doing their job. >> Right. Right. >> But that doesn't always mean like you. can you can do your job. It depends. actually what your end goal is. Like. what's your intent? Are you just trying. to be drama and be a diva and stir up.

[ __ ] Or are you actually going to be. like. >> someone who is respectable and who does. a great job and people learn from you. but also have fun while doing it? Like. what's your end goal? >> Yeah, >> I don't know. That was actually a really. good answer by me. >> That was good. >> Yeah. Thanks, >> dude. Isn't it cool when you have a good. answer? >> Yeah. It makes me feel good about. myself, >> dude. When you get to the end of a cool. couple of sentences in a row. >> Nailed it. >> Yeah. You're like, Yeah. It's like that lady that lands. like after the flips or whatever in the. Olympics or whatever. >> Gymnast. >> Yes.

>> Yeah. >> Thanks. Yeah. You're like, "Dad, I told you mom, >> look at me now." It's just a [ __ ]. three sentence thought. Yeah, dude. That. is pretty good, though. I like that. Um, yeah. What's one of the bigger things. you feel like that the media stirred up. that um that maybe it wasn't even a. thing? Um, I mean there like I would say. 90 90% of the drama that you hear about. in the WBA is madeup drama. Like it's.

not. >> I don't know like you and another thing. is like you go from I get this a lot and. I and I've learned to be a pro to like. not judge people when you're competing. against them all the time. >> where it's like if they were on my team. I'd probably absolutely love them. And. so I I don't know. It's it's us as the. women in the league to like, you know, you're going to compete, you know, you're not always going to get along, like why would you be best friends with, I don't know, people you're trying to. not like, >> I don't know, try to win against. Yeah.

And so, if you're always competing and. like never on their side, then you're. probably going to create some rivalries. You're going to create some tension. And. I think that's natural. That's what. happens when you're a competitor, when. you're at the highest level. But also I. think I don't know just like I don't. know people just run with [ __ ] that is. just not I just don't get it. Like I'm. like now. I'm not going to give you details. details but like I'm telling you 90% of. WNBA drama is made up [ __ ]. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I think we really do have like a.

solid cool league. Like I think when. people get to know the women in our. league like people like oh y'all are. y'all are great. You guys are awesome. It's like yeah like actually have a. conversation with us. do, which is what. we're trying to do here. >> Yeah. >> Um, okay. Sorry. I don't know why I. sounded kind of gruff, but I was just. practicing a new voice. >> But sometimes it feels like the teams in. the W actually don't like each other as. much, which I kind of think is better. cuz sometimes the NBA just feels like it. like a lot of the NBA just feels like. everybody's just buddies now. It's just. a bunch of millionaire buddies. M.

>> So, I think sometimes the thing that's. interesting about the W is that like, you know, like some of these women. probably have a second job, right? You. know, some of these women out here. grinding and so they got to beat the. other team. Whereas a lot of like I. think some pro levels of sports, it. starts to feel like, oh, these guys are. all just rich friends who are just like. passing around a lot of the same women. or whatever and knocking and just like. getting a lot of the same wombs filled.

up type of energy, baby mama [ __ ] or. whatever type [ __ ] But it's like uh. y'all stuff feels like I don't know. It. just feels like okay, let's see what's. popping out here. >> No, I think there's some like real truth. to this. I mean, there's definitely. players that. >> And here's a clip of you right now. hugging a woman, which first of all, >> you're just trying to show love, >> but that's a little So, you did not like. that girl. >> Um, no, I don't have a problem with her. >> Really? Let's watch this one more time.

>> Why are you guys laughing? I I really. don't. >> No, I'm not saying you do. >> You want me to break it down? >> Yeah, break it down. >> I know you want me to break it down. So, I will. >> break it down for us. >> So, how many That was 15 seconds. >> Mhm. So, the other like. 38. minutes in that whole game, I'm a queen for blaming who I'm about to. blame. The refs. Our refs are horrible. And so, >> are they real refs? Like, are they.

licensed or whatever? >> I mean, yeah. >> Okay. No one knows. >> You know what? Actually, I've never seen. any of their license, so I don't know. They keep showing up. They have some. type of credential. I've never seen it. >> They should have to wear it around their. neck or at least have a QR code on their. chest or whatever. >> Yeah. I mean, I think that's a great. idea. Maybe we'll add that in. Um, this game was just crazy. Like, they. were just getting away with stuff that. should not like if that was any of us, they would have called it tech. People. would have been already ejected by this.

game if they called it correctly. And it. was just too much, right? >> Like like this game was just too much. It was just like petty [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] had gone way overboard. >> And like I can deal with that for a. little bit, but then like this is at the. end of the game. I'm a little tired. I'm. hungry. Horrible combination. And. honestly, when she stole this ball, I. was like, I was back there. So, I was. like, okay. I literally in my head was. like, you know, you don't have to foul. Like, you don't like you're you're up by. 15. There's x amount of minutes or. seconds left. Who cares? >> You kind of wrapped your arms around it. Almost like you were trying to get just. a little bit of rest, like a little.

second of rest. >> Well, this is where no one really. believes me, but actually, I guess you. can't really tell in that. I would look. like a liar if I was about to say what I. was going to say. >> What were you going to say then? Well, what I was gonna say is I was I was. literally just gonna go straight up. Yeah. But at the last second, I really. was like I was like, "Fuck it.". >> And so I did that. >> Let me hug a [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Well, I didn't mean to like get. her there. But I mean, I did get her, but [ __ ] if you're going to do that, buck up. And I I mean, I'm not ever. going to. >> I mean, >> and then you got Yeah. It just didn't. >> I mean, but you just get tired of. people's [ __ ] I'm sure people in our.

league. >> I'm sure. >> get tired of my [ __ ] And I know that. And that's fine. And like that's part of. pro sports. And I think rivalries are. fun. I think when I think when teams or. like players don't like each other like. you know it's about to be a good ass. game. >> I agree. >> Like and like why don't people want. that? Like be like I get it. Like you. can be cool and as a pro you have to you. have to there's a fine line still trying. to figure that out. The fine line of. like being a competitor but you might be. teammates with them down the road. But. like at the end of the day I'm sometimes. going to be too good at being where my.

two feet are at where I'm like this is. this is my team. I'm going to go to war. with them. I'm if they need something. I'm going to be there. Like that's just. who I am as a person, as a player, all. that. And so in that instance, like that. game was too much. I was over their. [ __ ] And so I was like, why not? >> This is what's up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just going to inject here myself a. little bit. Um, one of the many things. that stood out for people was your. famous point, right? >> Oh, >> and it was um and how do you take me. through? So, how do you actually do it? >> Well, >> is there a strategy to it? >> No. No. I think that I'm People say.

pointing is rude. Um, >> but how are you gonna give somebody. directions if you don't like if they. don't have a uh GPS or whatever? >> Well, that's what I'm saying. And like I. >> you know what I'm saying? >> Yes. >> Say if you drove up to somebody, right? You're with your grandpa or whatever and. you drive up and your grandpa's like, "How do I get to. >> Johnson's farm or whatever?" And the guy. just said, "Well, you go and didn't. [ __ ] point.". >> I would be like, "I don't know where to. go." Like, "Go that way." Like we were. like, "I just don't I don't know. I. think everyone's got so soft. Everyone.

see something in the sky." I think I. maybe have a pointing problem. I don't. know because like I growing up it's like. oh yeah it's over there or like hey or. like what's going on like I'm a like I. use my hands when I talk. Like that's. just who I am. >> It's not a pointing problem, dude. Pointing. It's just saying hey there. >> Yeah, it makes sense. >> And it's not like I walked out there. >> God gave us 10 abilities to point. >> Yeah. So maybe I should have pointed. with this finger. >> Oh yeah, I point with that middle one a. lot. Boy. >> Yeah. See, and I don't. So. >> anyway, what happened was I, you know, I.

need to stop singing it for my. teammates. I think that's what it is. That's where I get that's where I get. caught. >> really. But that's fun though. >> And it seems like it gives you a role. too, more even more of a role than just. um. >> smoking lays. Just. >> Yeah. >> Just shooting threes and being a boss. >> Yeah. I mean, >> dude, the game I was at, I think he hit. six threes. >> Yeah. I mean, that's what I get paid to. do. I should be able to do that. >> type [ __ ] Look at this again. Okay. And. bro, this point was up. And what were.

you actually doing? And what were you. >> thinking? >> The point was up for 22 seconds. Were. you just making sure they knew who did. it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> No, really was I just got in her head. like look like here's the thing. Something happened and I was talking to. uh the ref 41. >> Yeah. >> Um I'm blanking on his name. >> It's like the Pointer Sisters. Wasn't. that an old band or whatever? >> But what happened was I was like. >> find one of their hit songs. Go. But all. I was saying, I was like, "Um, if if. she's gonna get a tea, shouldn't she?" I. literally just went like this. And then. she got she just got mad at me. She's.

like, "Don't youing point at me." And I. was like, "Oh, shouldn't have said. that." Boom. Yeah. >> And that's when like she was just going. I mean, look at her. Like she was just. going crazy. And so I just held I just. held it. I didn't say a word. Didn't say. a word. I got my nails done that day. So. happy I did that. >> Oh. So you definitely had to put them. out on the front porch. >> I mean, no, but. >> put them [ __ ] on the front porch. >> I did not even knowing. So, >> and you pointed for 22 seconds it said. >> Well, she just kept going crazy. Like. the thing is don't don't react. Like. don't like don't care. Who cares? Yeah.

Like why if someone point at me I'm like. all right cool. Like who gives a [ __ ] I. don't know. I just maybe I'm different. I don't know. >> That should be the W logo. Did people. There was a bunch of Didn't people sell. merch and everything about this, >> dude? Yes. It was honestly the the. internet's undefeated. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's funny. It was a good moment. And how did was there a certain way that. you did it? How do you even unleash it? Did. >> Dude, I don't know. It was just natural. Like my like natural sash just kind of. got got me. >> Okay. >> I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> But like last year cuz the clip you guys.

played like last year fans would come up. and they're like, >> "Can you put me in a headlock?" And I'm. like like that's not because of the clip. before that we just showed. And like now. it's like oh point and I'm like gh I'm. like let's just take a normal photo. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, I was I was joking a little. bit ago about uh people having other. jobs. Do people in the league have other. jobs? Do you know? >> Honestly, this is a great point because. you were talking about like the NBA. getting along. It's because they all. make a [ __ ] ton of money. Yeah.

>> So, like no one I mean they care, right? And they they love ball, but like. they're all getting paid millions of. dollars where. >> Well, all of them might not be, but not. a lot of them. I mean, >> and I agree they all they all are. friends. So it is it definitely. >> but it's because of the money. Think. about this like what is the minimum in. in the NBA salary? I have no idea. >> One year of service first of all calling. it a year of service is an insane. statement. >> and that is actually. >> when there are people who are actually. >> serving. >> Yeah. One year of service dude.

>> Okay. But look my point exactly is like. >> it's 2.1 million. >> Yes. >> And a rookie is making 1.3. It says the. NBA league minimum salary for a rookie. for the 2026 27 season is 1.3 while a. veteran with 10 point while a veteran. with 10 or more years of service earns a. minimum of 3.8. >> So everyone's at least making a million, >> right? So that might that might be a. part of why they can get along easier. just because they're. >> Yeah, because everyone Yes. Everyone's. comfortable. My rookie year after tax. and everything, I think I made like. $28,000.

>> So yeah, and I'm not like back then I. was not a very scholarly person. Like I. went to high school, I went to college. because that was the steps to become a. professional athlete. And I wish I would. have been better in school. Like I wish. I would have done like finances or. business or something like that. I. didn't. And. >> that's okay. >> Yeah, it's fine. But what I'm getting at. is like I was making 28,000. and I was like I was like I need to get. a job. Like I need to actually do. something to make money. >> So you were playing in the W and you. have another job. >> Yes. And like there's a girl, she just. came out. Um she plays for Seattle. >> Okay. >> She actually was working at like a.

grocery store and playing in the WNBA. So, like people actually had two jobs, but now because of our new CBA. agreement, which is great. Um, it's. going to continue to get better. Like, we're all making good money now, so we. don't need to. >> The median salary um is 350,000 is a. base pay. What does that say? Let me. see. The average WNBA base salary in. 2026 is about 518,000, but most players. earn far less with the median at 350 and. 45% making 300,000 or less. Wow, that's. a great deal of money. Um, 31 players earn 1 million or more.

led by Kelsey Mitchell, Asia Asia. Wilson, and Nefisa Collier. Nefia. >> Nafisa. >> Nafisa Collier at 1.4 million each. Caitlin Clark earned 528,000 in 2026 and. is set to earn 597. >> She's still on her like rookie contract. >> in 2027 with a potential max deal. Um, wow. So, it's gotten a lot better, >> dude. Yeah. Like, >> so that was the only case that So, that's the only case you know of a woman. that had another job. I mean, I know a. lot of people who are doing like side. gigs and like I. >> Are people Are people doing Only Fans or. are any players doing Only Fans?

>> I don't think so. I don't know. >> I don't know. I'm asking you. >> I mean, I don't know. I I wouldn't know, I guess. >> Have you ever thought about it or not? >> No. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Not up not up. my alley. >> I keep my privacy to myself. >> Well, actually, I guess her. WNBA. affiliated figures who have only fans. include veteran er veteran guard Erica. Wheeler and former all-star Liz Camage. >> Camage who launched an account after. stepping away from the league.

>> So Erica's is with only fans trying to. show that they have other content on. there. >> I was about to say I've never heard of. it of training family. You know this. just doesn't make sense to me because. that's like McDonald's trying to serve. enchiladas. Like that's never going to. be. >> right. If you Yeah. Don't Yeah. >> You get what I'm saying? Like no one I. promise you no one is going or thinking. of that and thinking, "Oh, family health. content, >> right? Let me go to Only Fans to see. Yeah. this cool recipe or someone.

building a birdhouse with their son.". >> No. Yeah. That's just not it. >> Yeah. And like really if she would have. stuck it out a little bit, 1.5 I'm sure. sounds nice, but she would have been. making way more if she would have just. stuck in the league. But. >> if she'd have stayed in, what are some. things that take women out of the league. that maybe we don't see? >> Actually, that that's good. Um, I'm going to hit on this point too that. I think a lot of people, we actually. used to have to go overseas because. that's where we made the majority of our. money. So like now because of this new.

CBA and even the last CBA, you saw less. and less players going overseas. So like. people would go to China, Russia, um. Turkey, Spain, like they would make. >> hundreds of thousands or millions of. dollars over there. So they had to. >> Okay. >> But if you have that WNBA like title. within like who you are, you're going to. automatically make more money. Like. that's we were the most elite level that. you could get at, but back then we were. making kind of like the minimum almost. And so now it's like flipping. So now. we're starting to get paid for, you.

know, who we are and what we represent. and all of that. And so it's good. So, you see less and less people going. overseas, but there's um a new um. offseason league um that there's one in. Miami and then there's one this year. It's actually called Project B. Um and. I'm I'm doing it. It's like the first. year. >> Project B like the pill or whatever. >> That's plan B. >> Oh, my bad. Oops. >> I mean, I could see how you get it. confused. You know, >> I don't take them. >> I'd be concerned if you did. >> Yeah. And would they let me play in the.

league? I mean, hey, if you're having to. take that after some stuff, maybe you do. belong in our league. I don't know. >> That's all I'm saying. >> It's all We can all find common ground. >> That's true. >> Yeah. >> It's all perspective. >> We got to get some help. Um, did So, we. finish up what you saying. I think I. stepped on you. >> No, you're fine. So, like we um like. some of us too, like I stopped going and. playing overseas because I was making. more money in uh marketing agreements. So, I was uh endorsers, partners. I was. doing uh broadcast for NBA. Was that. before you played in uh for the Mercury?

>> No, that was like um during So like our. season is from. >> Oh, you would finish your season with. the W and then go play. >> Yes. So like So our season is from like. mid April is when training camp starts. and then we would typically in like. beginning of October. >> and so then from October to like. beginning of April, a lot of people will. go play in different leagues to like. continue to make more money, >> right? But I there's a lot of people. including myself that like we made more. money not doing that and we made it more. off of like. >> brand deals, different types of things,

all that type of stuff. Yeah. >> So you were able to have those. opportunities you didn't have to. >> Exactly. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Um a lot of people's argument with I. mean you guys are getting paid better. now. You guys have t television deals. and things like that. Um. >> I do just even by watching y'all I start. to get to know other players. >> Yes. >> Dude, there was a freaking dime that. played on the tempo. >> You know who I'm talking about. Um, white, mix, black, >> mixed kind of. >> Um, Izzy Harrison post player. She's. beautiful. >> Yeah. >> But they they have they have a lot of.

pretty players though. >> Oh, dude. The point guard that they had, I saw her in the freaking pool at the. freaking hotel in Las Vegas. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Bryce, I think, is her last name. >> She was tough. >> Yeah, she's a rookie. Yeah, she's good. >> Oh, no. This lady had been Oh, Toronto. The Toronto team. Are they the Maroon. team? >> Yeah, they're new this year. >> Is that the Tempo? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Who is that? Can you look up? Yeah, just. look it up. >> Sorry. I should probably know that. >> No, it's cool. >> Oh, Mabberry. >> Oh, yeah. Marina. Yeah, >> love her. You know what I love is like.

>> tough, dude. Yeah, that. >> she's good. 20 points per game. >> Marina Mabry, that's who I saw play um I. saw her in the pool, >> dude. I was sc I was like I saw her in. the pool in Las Vegas. It was during. summer league. >> Oh, yeah. >> There was a You guys had a game I think. >> a couple days like towards the end of. summer league, but I was leaving that. day. But anyway, um, and I think I saw. her in the pool with like her family or. something, >> but she's a bucket though. She's good. >> She's so good, dude. I think it's so. funny though that like normally females. are going to like NBA rosters and seeing.

like, "Oh, where's the hot one?" And now. here you are going to a WNBA roster. Where's the hot one? >> No, I didn't say that, bro. I said I saw. >> You're not saying it. You're literally. doing it. >> Oh, yeah. [ __ ]. >> And you did say it. >> But I. >> I think it's fun. But that's what you're. saying is like the attention now you. know other people like it brings fans to. everybody. I know she's a badass. Like. she's freaking good. >> Yeah, she was tough. >> Yeah. >> Um Oh, you know where I saw you? I saw. you at UFC in Vegas. >> That was my first UFC event. >> Really? >> It was awesome.

>> I remember Dana saying right after I was. talking to her, we just like. >> I love Dana. >> Oh, he loves you. He's like, "Oh, that's. Sophie took great.". >> No, I Well, what happened? I was just. kidding. Like clearly I don't look like. a green girl. And so Wow, you said that. a little too fast. relax. >> Well, some of them are professional. >> No, like they're like real ring girls. and so, >> which is a crazy term, too. Let's just. >> Well, sorry. I don't know like I don't. know anything about about UFC fighting. >> Oh, no. Some of them are freaking war. I. mean, they are number warriors. >> What's What are we talking about?

>> Ring girls. And there's freaking Patty. right behind you, >> dude. I know. Oh, that was the best. energy fight. I feel like like the. McGregor one. Oh my god. Yeah. What's. the What's the song? Yeah. Yeah. It was. [ __ ] awesome. Cuz here's what. happened. Usually they just come out and. then they start to fight. But this time, since they have a new deal with. Paramount, they had. >> Oh, they were going to say because they. have a new ring girl. >> Oh, all right. Whatever. Paramount. >> But I love how I love I was about It was. about you though. They're like, "Oh, this ring girl is so good. Let's just. keep having her do live.".

>> But they had um they went to a They have. to do they had more commercial breaks. They had to go to a commercial. So they. just let him basically have this DJ. moment in the middle of the ring. >> Oh yeah, dude. It was awesome. And so it. was great. >> What? But the McGregor like Yeah, that's. me. >> At least you shaved under your arms. >> Yeah, >> that's good. >> Thanks. But what I was going to say is I. >> And you're number one. >> Um I was talking to Dana and I was like. literally kidding. That was the first. time I met him. >> and you said, "Let me go.

>> Love him." I said, "Hey," I said, right. when he was leaving, I said, "Hey, if. you need another ring girl and I. literally went like that." He's like, "You want to do it in the I was like, "Yeah." He's like, "No, seriously, you're up in like five minutes." I was. like, "Oh shit.". >> Wow. >> Yeah. I actually got I don't really get. nervous for things and I don't know why. I was going to get nervous to turn left. >> Yeah. >> Like. >> Well, could you go left easily or is. that a. >> Yeah, I think I did it. I think I can. walk left. >> Yeah. Well, I would get scared, I think. >> No, it it's actually way more. nerve-wracking than what you give those. Well, I I did not give maybe those girls.

as much credit as I should, but then. once I was over there Well, like I don't. know. Like when when you're not when all. you see is like. >> them walking, but then when you have to. be the one walking, it's like a whole. different deal. >> Yeah. >> Like give them some damn respect. >> Shit's hard, >> dude. I've been supporting them, dude. I've even freaking I think I support. them for Yeah, that's what I'm say. You're supporting them for different. reasons. UFC though, as a whole, amazing. experience. >> Had you been before? >> No. >> Oh, you've never been? >> Ever?

>> It's the best. But I will say I am. definitely a newbie because on one of. the fights someone like kicked the [ __ ]. out of someone and I I heard the skin on. skin and I went, "Oh." And everyone else. is silent and I had got like no joke. like 25 people were like and I was like. sorry it's my first fight. And they were. like oh it's okay. I'm like are you not. allowed to scream here? Like they can. beat the [ __ ] out of each other but you. can't be like oh. >> it is kind of crazy. There is like this. odd silence. It's same thing happens I. feel like at a lot of sporting events at. boxing. I noticed sometimes people will. be very silent while the beating is. going on. Ooh. See, and here here's my.

thing, too, is like I'm fine. Like, yeah, you can get a hit in, but once. like they're like knocked out, I can't. watch anymore. Like I I don't know. Like, call the fight faster. >> Oh, sometimes they let them punch them. one more time after knocked out. And. sometimes two more times. >> Yeah. And just like. >> I guess if they've been really bad, >> but like choking people out scares the. [ __ ] out of me. >> I'd rather get choked out cuz then at. least you're going to go you're going to. >> No, that's like a slower That's a slower. like death. I'd rather just get knocked. out because then you're just knocked. out. You don't have to like, oh, it's.

happening, you know? It's like, oh [ __ ]. it happened. >> Haven't thought about. Actually, I have. thought about it. Yeah. I'd rather just. get choked out and then come back and. like, what? Where was I? You know? >> Yeah. >> Who am I? Or whatever. >> Yeah. H. >> um and they just had and this they had. the teams that were walking out on the. anthem the other night. >> Uh yeah. >> How do you feel about that? Or do you. have any thoughts on it or is it even. >> I mean, you know who you're talking to. Of course, I have thoughts on it. >> Yeah. That's a good ob. Yeah, I wasn't. even asking you. Of course, I knew.

>> and I think the majority of people know. my thoughts. But I will say like this is. like this has been happening throughout. the whole season. >> Oh, it has. >> Yeah. So, this isn't like anything new. People are just kind of like getting mad. about it now, but it's it's happened the. whole season. So, um I don't know. Like. I I don't know. I just feel like. personally I have um a lot of I'm. grateful and I support the people who. serve. Um we have family members who. have served and uh you know they're over.

there doing things that are imaginable. for us to be out here living our dreams. and and having the freedoms that we. live. And so anytime that I can shout. out our veterans and the the people who. are currently you know fighting for us. to to live in the best country. Yeah. >> Um you know I'm going to show that. support and I'm going to give them love. And so uh that's where I stand. Um that. doesn't mean that's where everyone. stands and if it's right wrong whatever. But um no, I take a lot of pride of. where I come from and I'm I'm I'm proud. to be an American citizen. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel. It's like. what do you mean? The least I can do is. somebody's over there doing something. I.

can have a a moment of peace or respect. or prayer or a moment to think about. them and not to think about myself. >> It's not even about like what I need or. any of my feelings or whatever. For me, I totally. >> It's like the one time where you had to. be good or like have a moment where. you're like, "Okay, this isn't about me. I need 20 seconds of your best behavior. Do it. Like, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's I mean, I definitely feel. that. Is there a lot of pressure in the. league to do to like for those kind of. wall like that kind of stuff to take.

stands or do you guys do that kind of. stuff or talk about it as a team? >> I mean, yeah. I think that's like. something that the WNBA is kind of known. for is like we um we stand for uh a lot. of things. Um, and again, we have a lot. of women in this league, and that. doesn't mean we're all going to agree, and we're It's not like we're all. aligned on some of those things. >> Oh, you guys have the diversity in there. is insane when you think about it. Y'all. got mothers, y'all got stepmothers in. there. Nobody even thinks about the. stepmother's union in the W, right?

Y'all got studs, y'all got ballers, y'all got women that can dunk, which. also should be a special group of women. that should meet every now and then just. to discuss what's going on amongst them. cuz that's a rare group, right? >> I think we Yeah. Yeah. I think we need. more like unifying than more groups. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. >> But I get where I get where you're. coming from, right? But like I think we. need more unifying. >> Yeah. But then there is also this thing. that makes it like you like it does feel. heal some like you're saying this team. probably don't like this team you know.

>> but I think that's healthy. >> I agree too. >> That is what sports is. I agree like. tell me tell me. >> I agree when you see all the players are. best friends. It definitely is kind of. like uh. >> okay but like in college SEC that's. where I went to school like not Do you. think that Missouri loved every team and. every player that we played against? >> No. >> Okay. Now take it to the men. Do you. think all the men? Like no. Like we. don't like why are we such why do we. have to be an outlier? Like it's okay to. be a female and compete and have. rivalries and it's like it's okay. That's what sports is. Like that's what.

we signed up for. >> Yeah. >> So I just I don't get that. >> I agree. Dude, I kind of wish that every. every team was their own state team and. then the states all played each other. >> That'd be badass. >> It'd be so badass. Mhm. >> I feel like that there's a new. possibility for maybe like a. >> like I know they've tried with like the. UFFL for football or. >> but I feel like I don't know you would. just have so much more pride. I mean. there is a lot of pride with certain. areas and their teams. >> Yeah. Um. >> and I do think like when you're good. like the state regardless of where. you're at rallies around that good team.

and like on any sport like that's just. natural. But I think in order to I don't. know when there when there's rivalry and. there's stuff on the line you just get. like the fans are rowdier. we're. rowdier. Like I just think that's fun. entertainment. At the end of the day, we're in an entertainment business. Like. >> I don't know. I think it's part of it. >> When you're out on the court, is there a. lot of studs out there hollering at you. or what? >> Like like the fans like or fans. hollering. >> Is there like a lot of lesbian women. trying to flirt or anything like that? Does that happen? >> I mean, I don't I don't Here we go.

again. >> Oh, sorry. I keep going down this road. I just feel for some reason I feel like. it's like. >> playing a game. I don't know who's. yelling at me. I feel like it's like a. lot of girls will be like, "Hey, let me. get you a number after the game or. something like that." Is there energy. like that ever? >> Uh, I mean, yeah, but like it's also. >> So that happens in the game sometimes. >> Oh. Oh, I'm talking about like before. and like after and stuff like that. Okay. >> But like in the game like I promise you. you don't hear people yelling like. you're that locked in. Like it's like. it's I don't hear the crowd.

>> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Like you can tell the volume if like. it's loud or if it's quiet, but you. can't hear individual people. >> Yeah. I see what I'm saying. But yeah, I'm thinking if there's like a girl. flirting with you on the court like, "Let me cross you up and then uncross. you." You know, >> God. >> or something. Is that crazy to say? I. got to get some. >> That's a great pickup line. Honestly, like Yeah, it is. But uh No. No one's. ever used that on me. So, >> okay. Well, >> what' you say? Let me I'm going to cross. you up and then cross you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Is that good?

>> I like that. >> I should have been a freaking lesbian, dude. They said I had the [ __ ] heart. of a lesbian when I was a child. Bring. up that clip. Can you bring that up? This is true. >> No way. >> There's a clip about it. Our doctor said. it. You know, I was born with a rare. body style. You know, the doctors when I said when I. was born, some of the doctors said I had. the rib cage of a large cat. And some of. the doctors said I had the heart of a. lesbian. >> Praise God. >> That, you know, I had that real that.

ticker that wants to, you know, just be. naughty and sometimes do something deed. I didn't know it said all that at the. end, but you know what it is. Um, anyway, rough transition here, but uh. let's talk about uh your faith. You got. baptized as a as an adult, right? >> I want to bring you to church with me. >> What church do you go What church do you. go to? >> I because of my lifestyle, I don't. >> It's hard. It's hard to go sometimes. >> Well, I just don't have like a home home. church, but like I'm just like I was.

raised Catholic, but now I'm just like. more Christian. Um, so I can never say. this word non- denominational. Just said. it. >> Um, and so like yeah, I just I I love. Jesus and I've actually listened to you. a little bit that you're starting to. kind of maybe get into it or intrigued. by it a little bit. >> Oh yeah. >> Or maybe that was just you not actually. I don't know. But it's okay. But all I'm. saying is I I rely a lot on my faith. because of what I do for a living. Um, you get a lot of hate. You get a lot of. praise. And I think that just like.

morally in my head, everything like it. just keeps me stable and it keeps me to. be who I am. Like I don't care what. people's opinions are about me because. I'm not living for their praise. So. >> yeah. >> Yeah. The part that I like the most or. sometimes right now in my life is just. like prayer connection with God. But. then sometimes it's like I'll get too. busy and it gets like disconnected and. then I feel scared almost get get a. little bit like ah. >> well don't be scared. Why would you be. scared? scared, but I I don't know why I. said scared, but I get like I wish I had.

I wish my connection was stronger right. now. That's what I get like. >> like I you know, it's like um it's like. if you charge your phone, but then you. see it getting low, but you feel like. dang, >> dude. I feel you. Like you need. something to to feel, but there's. nothing I'm just going to say this and. this for other people listening too, but. there's nothing that you can or can't do. that's going to separate you from God's. love and grace and forgiveness. Like. that's why Jesus came and died on the. cross because he already knew everything. you were going to do. So like I mean. that's up to you now to like kind of. educate yourself and read the Bible of.

like good bad how are you going to. represent? Um but like you're already. forgiven. So like. >> No, I think I understand that. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yes. >> Like you probably feel better when you. are. >> right if you just. >> when you are praying and you are Oh. yeah. I mean. >> Yeah. But I just feel I just feel more. of a like personal connection when it's. like. >> um I'm prayed up. >> Yeah. >> My buddy say stay prayed up. But he say that all the time. Stay. prayed up. It's almost like if you talk. to somebody every now and then you don't. have to catch up with them. >> Well, that's a thousand% what it is.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. No, 100%. >> So, it's like but sometimes I'll get. like Yeah. I'll just Yeah. I'll just get. honestly busy. >> I mean that but that's that's natural. That's what it is to be human. You just. got to prioritize the the good. >> Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like I feel like. sometimes the media doesn't it it feels. like it's the media is unfair to. Christians. Do you ever feel like that? Um, I mean, it's all all how you. perceive it and your perspective on. things, but I do love that there's more. and more people coming out that they are. Christians and that they are believers.

And um, I feel like there's a revival. happening and um, I I love when people. um, have the confidence to be their true. selves and uh, to represent something. bigger than them. Um, and sometimes it. can be scary of, you know, you never. know how people are going to take that. because people have, you know, bad. experiences with the church or really. with the church or religious people and. that's not really what it is. And so. when you see people coming out, athletes, um, you know, it's kind of my. realm and you see more and more people. who have a huge platform, have a lot of. eyes and ears looking at them, um, it's.

cool to see them be able to be bold and. courageous and come out about Jesus. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I think a lot. of you I you know what I do notice. though? You see a lot of it amongst. athletes. There's a lot of faith in the. athlete in the athlete community. Do you. think that that's real or do you think. that that's posturing sometimes? And I. guess maybe does it even matter? >> But I just thought about it. It's like. the more like more athletes that I've. gotten to know probably in the past four. years I've known more than ever in my. whole life. Yeah. And it does seem like. there's a lot more faith-based energy in. their world. >> Really? >> Yeah. Do you think like coming from like.

is this like a comedian like the. comedian world you don't see it as much. or you're just like the because you're. kind of in a different. >> Yeah. Comedians I think you don't see it. as much because comedians are just. questioning everything and they're like. you know a lot of them probably. >> which I don't think that's a bad thing. Like I don't think questioning and. asking the why is bad either. >> Yeah. >> But no I I don't know. I think this is. all I know. Like I'm I've only ever been. an athlete. So like I've there are. athletes who aren't and that's totally. okay. And um you know it is what it is. that's that's their walk. But I know the.

majority of people that I'm around and. who I know um they are faith-based. >> Oh yeah. I mean I find more and more of. my friends are these days are trying to. and that's really the biggest thing is. just trying to have a relationship. trying to learn about it. We want to. have some more uh religious figures on. to talk about stuff on here. It's pretty. fun. >> You should. And like people who love. history, love science, like talk to. these people who are like I I don't. know. They're just um experts when it. comes to uh the Bible and that's what. they do for a living. And so people are.

like, "Oh, well history and science it. doesn't mix." Well, actually all pretty. much top scientists, they figured out. that Jesus did live and he is real and. so you should have them on because I. think it'd be a fascinating conversation. and I think you would ask some great. questions. >> Yeah. Yeah. We want to have Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. And Yeah. We want to have the. pope on but he won't I don't even know. if he has a phone. I mean, someone has a. phone around there. They're not the. Amish. And even the Amish have phones. >> There is a kid that does Amish Timothy.

He's coming back on. >> Really? Yeah. >> Did you know that people in prison have. phones now? I didn't know this. I just. found this out last week. >> Yeah. I think they're Drewuski fans. But. yeah, a lot of them are. But dude, maybe. the Popeye send him some of those smoke. signals and he would hit us back, dude. >> Maybe you should start with that if you. get him on. >> Yeah, dude. That would be good. >> Gosh. >> Uh, what about off the court? So, what's. your life like off the court? Are you. engaged? Are you What's going on? Are. you going on Love Island? >> No. Why would I go on Love Island? >> I heard a rumor that you were.

>> No. I literally like I am someone who. actually like am trying to um I was not. always like this. Like I feel like I was. one foot in one foot out with my faith. And now that I'm like two feet in, I'm. not I'm trying to not live that life. >> What is that like being in a. relationship you mean? >> Um no, the love island. >> Oh yeah. It's kind of ra Yeah. little. reckless. >> Well, also the island doesn't seem like. it has any love on it. >> I mean, >> you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. But some people but people love.

watching that. I've literally never I've. seen one episode and I felt like my. brain cells were dying, so I stopped. >> Yeah. >> Like I need all the brain cells I can. get, you know? >> Yeah. >> Got to protect them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, is it ever a common thing in the W. where women will like kind of where they. want to have a family? Does that become. a tough thing that some women start to. balance? Do you hear about that? Oh. yeah. And I think that's like a more and. more thing. And um typically, you know, it's it's people, it's doable. Like you. can be pregnant, go have your baby, and.

come back. Now, it's hard on your body. There it people have done it. Um a lot. of people um that were my teammates, this is strictly my experience, and like. teach their own on this, but their wives. are typically the carriers. And so, >> so the wife had to. >> has Yeah. has the baby. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So they're they're not the ones. having the baby. >> Okay. So they don't have the baby. The. wife have the baby. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Okay. And hold on a second. They don't. have the baby. The wife has the baby. So. the wife carries the baby. Yeah.

>> So the and the seaman or whatever they. buy it from somewhere. >> Yeah. But but I think like now this. could be totally wrong, but I think now. like you can. >> I mean know I know I'm right on this. You can have your partner carry your. egg. >> Oh. Like the assist or whatever. >> Yeah. Like the greatest. >> I mean, if we're talking basketball. terms, Yeah. the assist. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. They they they go and dunk it, you. know? >> Like the greatest assist or whatever. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Or surrogate. But like if you don't know. balls, you don't know balls. >> The surrogates could be a good WNBA. name.

>> [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> If there were like an expansion team. >> Yeah. You're you're on a roll. So, we. got the licks and the surrogates. >> Well, I'm just I'm just brainstorming. some. >> No, I like this. I don't think any idea. is a bad idea. >> Yeah. Oh, I could see it. I could see it. a little bit. Yeah, because I just. wonder like Yeah, just something I like. expansion. You got to freshen the league. up, you know? I mean, how many times can. you have young MA play at the halftime. show? You know what I'm saying? Like you. got to you got to freshen the league up. >> You got to you got to.

>> the tides are changing, you know, so you. got to continue to grow with it. >> We got to try new stuff. Um, is there. any women that you know of that ever. have ever played pregnant in the league? And are they allowed to play pregnant in. the league? Uh, yes, actually. Um, I I think one of. my teammates was like, if I'm I know she. was. I just don't know how far along. So, I think that's like. is it a I don't know. I don't know. I've. never had a kid in my life, but I feel. like you'd have to tell your doctors.

you're pregnant, right? And like. >> you could hide, you could wear like a. cumber bun or whatever. >> Well, I know, but I feel like once once. the player tells like the team doc or. like the team trainers that you're. pregnant, then like it's there. They. have to be like, "Okay, at this time you. should probably not play." You know what. I mean? But I feel like you could play. up to like three, four months. I don't. know. >> Do you guys know? >> I don't know cuz I don't. >> But but people have definitely played. pregnant. Like she's not the only one. There's like there's been multiple. people who But then you kind of see them.

taking like once they find out, I guess, >> just shooting three-pointers, whatever. >> No, they they don't play that season. like they they take a season off. Yeah. Yeah. >> So is that a part of this is their baby. season or whatever? Um, I mean. >> there's like a term for that. >> I don't know. I I literally don't know. I should probably know more. But I will. say like back when I first started like. fiveish years ago, like it did it. You. could not be pregnant and play like they. you kind of get I don't want to say in. trouble, but yes, you want to get your. salary, but now in our new CBA now you.

receive 100% of our base salary. >> Wow. So, but but before you couldn't, you had to It was like payer It was like. play or pay. Will you actually look that. up? Because I'm pretty sure that like we. there was it was like a bad thing where. like we weren't allowed to be pregnant. and play like you kind of had to pick. and choose what you wanted to do. >> WNBA players now receive 100% of their. base salary while on maternity leave. That's currently. >> Yeah. >> Let me see before that. >> Yeah. >> Under older WNBA collective bargaining.

agreements and historical team practice, pregnancy was frequently treated similar. to an injury, illness, or contractual. impairment. >> Yeah. like you could get cut, >> which that's like actually insane, right? >> Yeah. I mean, yes, it is looking at it through the. eyes of now. >> Now, but then it's like if you're if. it's like, yeah, you would think they. would keep you on, but I think who knows. if there was enough money and you know. what I'm saying? In the end, it's. unfortunate that so many things come. down to money when you're involved in a.

business, right? If it's just a group of. women traveling around playing. basketball for the completely for the. love of the game and just dating. together or having a child or some one. of them has a child. >> Yeah. >> Then yeah, you don't they're. >> but you would you would think of them. like as a if you're like trying to No, but like if you're trying to. >> like promote women and like everyone's. like, "Oh, we support you. Equality like. all that.". >> Then. >> and then the second Kha is knocked up, we're [ __ ] letting her hit. >> Psych. You're cut, [ __ ] Like what?

Like so you're you're you Yeah, that. makes no sense to me. So I'm glad we. fixed that. Good job. >> Yeah, >> that was good. >> The one thing we're learning today, it's. one step at a time. Sophie Cunningham. >> Yeah, I like it. >> That's one thing we're learning. Um. where like if say if a say a man in the. world, where does a man meet Sophie. Cunningham these days? There's a lot of. young men out there that are, >> you know, non even loiterers, good men. probably. You know, do guys like do you. like do guys hit on you in your DMs or. is it just something like you meet a man. in just regular life? Like could you.

meet a man at like a gas station or like. a Petco or anywhere or like anywhere? I'm just thinking of places out loud. >> Yeah. Uh is Petco a thing still? >> Are they? Yeah. They have one of the. largest ham They own one of the largest. hamster reserves in America. >> You kind of remind me of a hamster. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> My first job was selling hamsters. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Well, I'm sure you did a really good job. with that. Um, I don't really know. Like. I. >> It was okay. >> Oh, you didn't do a great job. >> I sold We sold them outside of raves. I.

did all right. But do basketball players. mostly date other basketball players? Is. that the biggest thing amongst the. straight players in y'all's league? >> Um, I think I don't know about. basketball players, but like typically. athletes like I'm we're tall. Like we're. >> right. You have to Yeah. You can't hug. somebody and have them not show up for. it. >> Yeah. I mean, I guess. But like you I. don't know. >> Yeah. >> I don't know about other I just don't. care enough to know about other people's. dating life. And I know like athletes. are hard though. Like we're hard. Like.

our our schedule sucks. Um you're always. on the road. But like male athletes are. scary. Like they just they're scary. >> Are they? >> I mean they they have so much money. They have they're anything's accessible. and like you you know what I mean? Like. that's kind of scary. >> Yeah. It could be dangerous. >> Dangerous. There you go. Like like if. you're not mature enough to handle all. of that, it could be scary. >> It could be fun. It could be dangerous. >> I mean, I'm sure it is fun. >> Until it's not. >> Exactly. But honestly, that's in any.

industry. Think about it. Doctors, comedians. >> Yeah. An NBA athlete is a very insider. industry right there. Is that what. you're saying? >> I don't know. I don't know what I'm. saying. >> I don't know what we're talking about. anymore. Your podcast is No Hezi. >> and that's out now. You can find it on. everywhere and it's with Sophie. Cunningham and Drew Hanlin. >> and uh congratulations. >> Thanks man. It's new. I think we're on. like week five or six and it's been fun.

We're trying to figure it out. So. >> nice. >> Yeah. >> Do you have big plans for the offseason? Is there something specific you're going. to do or learn a skill? I know that um. one of your players I know that Kelsey. Mitchell just finished school. What's. >> Yeah, she's like getting her PhD. I know. she. >> she was doing it during season. She's. the best. She's simply the best. >> She's so great. >> Um, no, I'm not going back to school. Um, >> I don't know what I'm doing this. offseason. I'm kind of just like having. fun doing Project B, which like we're. going to different countries going to. explore that and. >> Oh, you are? So, you're going to be. traveling with that? >> Yeah. So, like it's like you play 10.

days and then you're off the rest of the. month. So, that's kind of. >> You're going to be doing that league? >> Yeah. >> Oh, I didn't even realize that. >> Yeah. Project B. So, like. >> where are you guys going to be playing? We'll be um over in China, Singapore, Spain, Germany. I think that's it. I. think it's only four countries. >> Poland, too. Are you going to Poland? >> No, not Poland. >> Dang. >> But yeah, so I'll be doing that. But. otherwise, just kicking it, hanging out. >> Excellent. Uh all right, Sophie. Cunningham, thank you so much. >> Thank you. This was a blast. >> Was it? >> It was fun. I really enjoyed this. >> Oh, good. >> Yeah, it's my speed. My brain speed.

>> Okay, good. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and. I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I. must be corner stone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll. share this piece of mind I found. I can. feel it in my bones. But it's going to take.