Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #464

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[Music]. [Applause]. thanks man yeah I feel pretty good I got. some vitamin D today I went for a run. you know I think I was feeling like. overwhelmed so sometimes when I feel. like. even if I feel anything too much it's.

like I feel like if I do something in. motion it helps me you know and getting. some vitamin D helps me too yeah move a. muscle change of thought yeah. but I had the same experience yesterday. where I you know they had me scheduled. like back to back all day and I said I. just need to get I I and I I just. canceled one of my appointments and I. went out in the sun. for an hour and I just it was. transformative. yeah it's interesting I think we forget. that we're supposed to beat Plants like. that you know or that were part because.

our humans part plants too do you think. no I know although the microbiome has a. lot of. plants and it's I guess it's part of our. body and it's a plant I suppose but. um we are definitely uh. or a zoonotic species rather than a. plant species dang. yeah sometimes I guess I feel like a. plant. um or I don't know if I sit by a window. I feel good you know if somebody comes.

up and smells me if I smell good I feel. good I guess so that's kind of like a. flower maybe I don't know maybe I'm. losing my mind. um good to see you man you too yeah you. look great. you didn't you look amazing well I feel. pretty good man I'm just I've been. staying pretty busy I'm trying to think. of what's been going on have you been in. Nashville yeah I've been over there a. decent amount you know um I couldn't. believe how that is growing there yeah. there's like 20 cranes above that's the. thing they must have all the Crayons.

from everywhere in the United States. there yeah it's been it's been busy I. mean even since I just moved there like. three years ago it's like I'll go down. streets now and everything's. everything's changing it's really nice. one of the things that I like best there. I have the best neighbors there my. neighbors are really nice. um and it still has a really small. it has a small town Vibe like you. couldn't cheat on your wife there that's. what I tell people. you could not do it I mean you could I. think a lot of people have tried but you. could it's just there's too much it. still has like that a little bit of that.

southern gossip Vibe you know uh do you. have like like a a little house or yeah. I got me a little house in a. neighborhood it's pretty normal nothing. too fancy I mean it's a nice home but. um it's nothing like I don't have like a. uh water slide or anything you know or. anything like that or like a. um part of an ax yeah I don't know yeah. I don't know. um but it's been good man it's been a. nice change of pace I feel a little bit. more connected to just like regular.

Society because I think in La it's like. a it's just a different Universe out. here than like regular cities or towns. in America for sure. um and there's so many people here you. know I think people start to feel a. little bit I don't want to say. Expendable but it's like some people you. know you're you're not going to see them. ever again so it there's like. a different amount of um value sometimes. to the interaction that you have to put. into it you know like in a smaller. Community you have to have you have to. create a level of probably more respect. for people and stuff and like um.

whereas in a city you're just gonna does. that make any sense yeah I remember it. was as a writer for the New Yorker I'm. trying to remember his name but he's. kind of a philosopher. and he was talking about the um that. there's a formula actually that you know. people are rude and in big cities. because the chance of them ever running. into you again is is more remote whereas. if you live in a small town I've lived.

in. Montgomery Alabama which is really a. small town and uh hayneville Alabama and. then I lived in Deadwood South Dakota uh. you know a couple of other small towns. in my life and everybody's nice and when. you're driving down the road and you're. pickup truck. everybody who has you on the road waves. their hand like that yeah. he was saying uh he was telling the. story that um. uh that Mother Teresa when she came to.

New York. she tried to start one of her little you. know con monasteries to take care of the. poor in New York and that um they. eventually ended up closing it because. they didn't want to put an elevator in. the place and they said no we'll just. carry the sick people. up the stairs ourselves I love that idea. yeah but in New York the public health. agencies wouldn't let them do it so they. said okay we're leaving. a g at one point mayor Koch had a uh had.

a heart attack mayor Koch yeah okay and. gosh was uh he was uh the mayor of New. York. for long long-term mayor and he had a. heart attack and he nearly died and she. went to visit him in his hospital bed. and what she thought was a great. kindness because you know she's. a Catholic and he's a Jewish mayor and. it just was a you know it was kind of a. spiritual act but when she was up there. she asked him can he give me a parking.

place in front of my uh in front of my. building. and uh. as a joke no she wanted a parking place. but it kind of I saw his Mother Teresa. well of course you would give her a. parking place if you got on their issue. there he is with the Mother Teresa. that's hilarious. but she you know it's just the idea that. she had an angle you know once you go to. New York you always got to have an angle. yeah and maybe it is you're just like.

and I always feel like La is kind of. like an air it always feels like the. whole city feels like a little bit like. an airport to me it's like I feel like I. never leave the airport here like it. just the whole it just it feels like. this thoroughfare of just people going. in and out you know yeah. um I sometimes I start to feel like. America starts to feel like that. sometimes I think it starts to feel to a. lot of people like. um it almost feels like a shell company. sometimes like a shopping mall yeah or. like it feels like an LLC for like big.

bit it starts to sometimes feel like an. LLC for like big business yeah does that. make any sense that makes a lot of sense. I mean I think that's what it's becoming. and one of the things that like I I'm. talking about a lot now is is um you. know they it's a housing price I housing. prices yourself yeah you know what I was. um I tried the Monsanto case in San. Francisco. with a big team of attorneys and we. tried three cases in a row so we had.

about 20 000 cases. and the way that you know this kind of. uh uh multi-state litigation and the. case was that they were it was poisonous. right yeah it was it was causing. Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma okay so we had. enough science to prove that it could. cause on it did a good cause on a. Hodgkin's lymphoma and then we had. we ended up having 50 000 people who had. gotten on the Hodgkin's lymphoma. and but the way that you try the case.

you try them one at a time until if you. win three or four in a row then the. company says and Monsanto says okay now. we know what the value of the case so. the first case we got 289 million yeah I. just saw this brought that up wow the. second case we got. um and so that was one client and there. that was one that was uh Dwayne Johnson. who who's not the rock you're not. talking about him not the rock this was. African-American. school superintendent you know his job.

was to spray the Weeds on the property. and keep the mow the lawn and do that on. a school public school. and he was he had a backpack on a. sprayer and it leaked all the time and. he began getting lesions on his back and. he called up Monsanto he called him. three times and said could this be from. uh because it says safe as Asbury. nothing could happen to you and it has.

pictures it had pictures on the label of. people spraying their weeds wearing like. Bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt so. it was implying that you don't have to. take any protection with this stuff. because it's so safe wow oh he thought. he felt like it was coming from that. from the and it turned out to be not. lymphoma. it was precancerous lesions and but they. would never return his phone call and. they knew it and they just didn't want. to you know so they they uh they.

sandbagged them. and he um and and he he was the sweetest. guy when we got him on the stand he was. married to this beautiful uh Hispanic. woman they had fallen in love the first. time they saw each other at Community. College and they had this wonderful. marriage. and he couldn't sleep in the bed with. her anymore because. he had so many lesions on his body and. you know he wouldn't go in the swimming. pool because he you know if anybody saw. him in the pool they would think they.

were going to get a disease so his life. was it was just so miserable and. the jury loved him that gave him 280. million 289 million and then the next. one I forgot we got I I think we got. around 300 million the second the third. one we asked for it was a couple. who were both gardeners home gardeners. and they brought their dog with them. they had a Labrador retriever the. labrador died on hydrogen diphoma what. he got at the same time they did the.

couple both gone to the same Retreat and. the dog got it the dog died first and. then. um the uh you know then they were they. were really sick. we asked the jury for a billion dollar. and we had a big argument about it you. know what do you ask Jerry because you. don't want to ask them for too much. because then they think you're. overreaching and they may punish you. okay uh the one guy was arguing doing. the closing argument a lawyer called. Brent Wisner very young lawyer um but.

really brilliant and he uh and we were. all saying you should ask them for 300. million that's what the other juries. were paying us. and he said I'm going to ask him for a. billion I feel like the jury likes us. they came back with 2.2 billion but we. asked him for a billion yeah and uh so. they were pissed him on Santa they were. so angry because we also showed that. that's the lawyer right there I would. just walk by Brent listener wow.

um God I got to pick up some Monsanto on. the way home yeah you got to go to law. school too yeah one or the other man. yeah I got to get a case like this but. anyway I I didn't mean to go off on this. but what I was saying is. when we were trying these cases we were. trying one after the other so I ended up. spending like the better part of a year. in San Francisco and every morning when. I was in San Francisco before court I. would go down to the courthouse to the. uh to the gym.

in Union Square. Union Square is the center of San. Francisco and it's the center of. Commerce it has all the big uh um you. know American iconic American stores. like uh Macy's and Bloomingdale's and uh. Nordstrom and GAP and the Old Navy and. Levi and then it has all the foreign. stores like Prada and Dela Valley and. odd Gucci and Ferragamo and Hermes yeah. Ferragamo and uh Burberry and all of.

those so it's like Fifth Avenue is the. Fifth Avenue and people come from Asia. all over to do their shopping there. so you know I went back three weeks ago. and it was astonishing those houses are. or those stores are all boarded up. they're every one of them is closed wow. and. they're closed because all of them. homeless on the street making the chaos. that's going on in the street in San. Francisco makes people feel unsafe yes.

some guys instead of started a pop-up. bar do you see that a guy started a bar. where oh one was bar see if you can. bring that up okay. yep I got it. yeah look at this I mean I think you're. starting to see. yeah people are like well I'm so. homeless there's obviously no zoning. going on so why don't I open up a Dave. and Buster's type of Place Denver. homeless Camp features pop-up bar.

um yeah it's wacky. let's see a Decked Out open there there. you go see look you can see the bottles. right there they have a kind of V I'm. going to call it VIP but I would call it. maybe h-i-v-i-p it looks a little dicey. over there sorry and I should have said. that man but yeah but you know it's it's. a lot of people have been ill and. um but yeah this is I mean I think. people are going to start starting. businesses you know.

I don't know that could be the pop-up. Speakeasy which features lounge chairs. umbrellas and astro turf has taken over. the sidewalk at 23rd and champ uh Champa. streets which the city's growing. homeless population has turned into an. encampment I love this kind of stuff so. um so I we're hearing there was an open. bar that's where the Denver Police. Patrol Division Chief said. um anyway yeah I think but at least it's. evolving it's not just. homeless people just being homeless at.

least I think you're going to start to. see mom and pop businesses out there you. know here's what you know my son. actually because I I had a lot of um I. have a lot of assumptions about why. people are homeless. and it it's you know there's 525 000. homeless people in this country. and but. 50 of the unsheltered homeless are in. California. okay but California only has 12 percent.

of the population but it's 50 percent of. the of the unsheltered homeless and. unsheltered homeless means homeless that. don't have a place to sleep yeah it's. okay it's people who are you know on the. sidewalks like freelance yeah right or. they're in shelter you know they're yeah. like free range yeah. so. um here's my assumptions that. homelessness is linked to drug addiction. it's linked to mental illness. um it's linked to you know poverty.

and that people are in one of the. reasons there's somebody homeless in. California is that everybody knows that. San Francisco. as this very generous kind of giving. attitude towards social services and so. if you're homeless anywhere else in the. country you you know you you'd like to. move the good weather yeah you know you. don't want to be in New York sleeping on. a great in the middle of winter when. it's snowing.

get on a Greyhound and come out to San. Francisco and you know. um and. celebrate yeah and I also had heard this. which turns out not to be true that that. in some cities like Dallas. or Nashville if you are homeless at a uh. instead of putting you in jail. they give you a bus ticket to San. Francisco oh wow so I don't know if it's. true or not anyway somebody's son. turned me on to this writer called my.

son Connor and who you know. Matthew Desmond and Matthew Desmond has. written these books on homelessness and. he's done these studies on homelessness. and what and they in in San Francisco. they actually went around and. interviewed thousands and thousands of. office people. and what they found is. that um. that the people who are homeless in San. Francisco are from San Francisco and. they're from California and they weren't.

they didn't come from somewhere so it's. not a lot of people yeah Boston or. transplants or whatever right. he also says that. it it has it it has very little to do. with drug addiction that you know the. states like West Virginia. as much more drug addiction than San. Francisco and yet it doesn't have a. homeless problems West Virginia has much. worse poverty problem than San Francisco. San Francisco actually I think it's the. richest city in the country it may be. wrong but I think it's the riches and.

um and it doesn't so. and in terms of mental illness you have. to assume they're the same yeah you know. there's a reason but but also Detroit. Detroit has much higher drug addiction. much higher poverty and it doesn't have. a homeless problem. and what Matthew Desmond says is the. reason for almost one reason one reason. is housing prices it all has to do with. with housing prices in California you. know we have the highest housing prices.

in the country. um here in La Where We Are. the average home cost eight hundred and. fifteen thousand dollars which means you. have to earn 250 000 to be able to pay. to be able to pay for that and why do. they get so high like is it demand that. makes them so high I'm going to tell you. this the average home in our country. two years ago was two hundred and. fifteen thousand. the today is 400 000. and the interest.

rates have gone from three to seven. percent so kids today like your kids and. my kids are never going to buy a home. you know it used to be but if so if. they're not going to buy a home yeah and. the median price of home sold by. Realtors is risen sharply since the. beginning of the pan yeah and and here's. why this is happening. if there's three big companies BlackRock. State Street yeah these the biggest. companies you know and they have a. monopoly on a lot of the housing market. right well what they do they own.

everything okay including they on each. other so it's really just one big. company and and BlackRock that it has 10. trillion dollars under management. the GDP of California is three or ten. trillion the GDP of California is three. trillion dollars. and so they're three times the size of. California California economy is the. fifth largest in the world of all. Nations so when you have that much. control can't you just make your own. universe.

so they own. those three companies own 88 of the s p. 500. so they basically just own. everything and now what they've decided. is they want to own every single family. home in our country so they're that and. and they're now on track there's now on. trajectory if we continue it on this. trajectory they will own the. corporations. will own 60 of the uh single family. homes in our country and they're you.

know they they pay nothing for money so. they're like if you're the richest. person in the country. their blackrock's cost of money is 30. lower than you so you you know when so. they're competing against our kids and. your kids why is it so different they. want it now they want to own everything. so why is the percentage of the cost of. the value of of borrowing oh because. they are that their credit is so. impeccable oh I see they have like a. 900. yeah so they they got the better.

than the best credit rating I got 670 or. something I don't know what's okay I. don't know yeah but isn't that like. privatized communism or something that's. what it feels like oh yeah it's like. socialism for the rich and you know this. is barbaric merciless. ruthless Savage can you listen for the. poor yeah do you think it did some. trickle-down effect of that that makes. people feel like. yeah I don't know I mean I I was talking. we had this guy John vervacion and he. talks a lot about meaning and stuff like. that you know and he said that people.

feeling like they're part of a country. or they're they have like a part of a. home you know part of a group it it. creates a lot of meaning for them you. know just in their life yeah and I think. I noticed even with my own like probably. like our parents and stuff I think a lot. of them were very like pro-america and. like you know they had family members. that died for our country and they you. know it meant something to them to be. part of America and then now I think a. lot of them see this kind of unfolding. or like kind of the flag kind of like. fraying at the stitching you know and I.

think it's very scary because if you. don't if you start to feel like you. don't have your country. then I think then you start to feel like. okay it's every man for himself in a way. does that make any sense yeah and you. know. and you're absolutely right there's a. poll that came out three weeks ago that. showed that in 2013. kids between 18 and 35 years old that 85. of Young Americans. um said they were proud of the United. States and then another poll that Saint.

Paul came out three weeks ago that. showed that only 17 percent of kids say. that they're proud to be and I said. really you know devastating but one of. the things that you are saying I think. is true that. if you own a home. you care more about your community you. care about the schools you know you care. about the police oh that's a great point. the hospitals you take care of your. garden you know you make it look nice. you might be more likely to help your.

neighbor exactly because you're there. you're part of the community. and turning us all into you know and you. it you also are a participant in the. capitalist system because. if you own a home you have Equity yeah. which means let's say you want to start. a business even like a tiny business. like buying you know buying a sewing. machine yeah doing sewing what else can. we do you can do or you know if you want. to start at restaurants popcorn like a. caramel corn exactly something like that.

yeah thanks and um but you could get a. loan you can get alone right on your. house and so you you have an entree and. a capitalist system yeah and you make it. because then you're always pop. everything's possible you could sit down. with your family at night and be like. hey Mom and Dad are thinking about doing. this business what do you guys think and. maybe your son's proud of you and it. creates excitement in your house you. know and even if like I remember my mom. went to law school and she couldn't do. it because she had too many kids and it. was too much work but I was still always. proud of her that she tried to do it you. know like I think yeah having the the.

financial ability to do stuff like that. is just so important man and then. otherwise you feel yeah if you're just a. renter if everybody's a renter you don't. nobody you just feel like you're like a. renter by force like you don't even have. a choice to be a renter you know yeah. um yeah that's kind of scary how do we. battle against that and is it something. that a president can do or a political. official can do or it's something that. how do you how do we turn reverse that.

um well I don't know I mean there. there's parts of their. um of of what they're doing that yeah a. president can do it for example they own. all the packing companies so there's. only four meat packing companies and and. those companies have a Stranglehold on. farmers and consumers. and they should have been prosecuted a. long time ago for antitrust but because. BlackRock is so powerful nobody will.

touch them wow and so that's a dark arts. huh yeah I mean they're just you know. what they're doing is they're just. they're just strip mining the wealth and. Equity from the American middle class. and you see that you know um yeah it's. sad and how do we how do who is it who. is Blackrock. the head of it is uh as the CEO as I. call Larry Fink. he's also on the board of directors of. the world economic Forum so in the world.

economic Forum you know is meets in to. have a it's a billionaires Boys Club. a meeting to have us every year and they. try to figure out what. um their plans are for the rest of. humanity are they greedy I would say. they're they're they they have a bad. reputation for a very self-serving. policies their big policy is called the. Great reset. and what here's Cloud Schwab says. famously he says under the great reset.

you will have not you will own nothing. but you will be happy. so that's what that's what they believe. yeah so they do have a belief their. belief is that you will own nothing but. you'll be happy all of us will own. nothing but they will work because they. will own everything. and they may be a little happier who. knows wow today's episode is brought to. you by betterhelp. if you um if you need therapy or you've. considered therapy it's. it's okay to try it out I've tried so.

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that's out of what Everything feels like. could be possible right. um do you uh well do you let me ask you. this. do you consider yourself a conspiracy. theorist no. but I consider myself open to curiosity. you know. um I think. yeah I consider myself open to curiosity. I think it'd be silly not to listen to. possibility. and I think some of the it's sometimes.

it's the Curious guy who at first people. are like this guy's bought bananas who. ends up being. Bananas Foster you know which is good if. you've had it or not yeah I haven't yeah. it's pretty good I'll say that dude one. of my I used to work at this at this. restaurant and one of my co-workers he's. like man I hate seeing Bananas Foster on. the menu because I was raised in a. foster home and it makes me sad not. ridiculous.

well yeah like just to equate Like. Bananas Foster and being raised in a. foster home but I was like but I bet he. still had some every now and then I. think it made him feel pretty good but. um but yeah I think would you ask me. about it oh it is I was just asking. about conspiracy theory yeah I don't. think well I think since to me since the. new like the news started to get. compromised it feels like a few years. ago and I'll one thing I do like using. is that word compromise that's kind of. like a conspiracy there is a word you. know but I feel like when I was when I.

was a child it felt like the news was. real and it and it was like this is the. news and it was honest I don't know if. it was that could have been me Romancing. it too but it felt like that and then at. a certain point which feels like about. maybe 10 years ago the news started to. become more yeah different did you. notice that in your life. yeah I did it on I watched it happen. because. originally the like the the news. um you know they they going back to when.

they invented radio in 1928. they passed a law that was called the. fairness document was called you know. Community Communications act and they. said. um you that all. they did a bunch of things they said. nobody could monopolize the news so now. there's five companies that on all the. TV all the radio all the newspapers and. most the internet content providers. and they didn't want that to happen. because they thought then you know these. large corporations will control what.

we're thinking because they're going to. control the information flow and that's. bad for democracy they said you you know. you can own no more than eight radio. stations and you couldn't own a. newspaper and a radio station or. television station the same that sounds. like a good choice that sounds like very. that seems fair to me yeah they wanted. it for the quality of ownership it was. called the fairness Doctrine but they. also said. if you if you if you're using the public. Airwaves which means radio or television. that if you make a statement you need to.

give the other side a chance to respond. and you also need to put the news on. every day at times when Americans are. likely to be at home to say it so they. have that in order to. oh like NBC did not own that airwave it. all it had a license to use it and it. could only use it if it benefited the. public interest. the way that it did that is it said okay.

you're going to create a news division. the news divisions were always lost. money but they were willing to pour. money in because it was the only way. they could hold on to their license and. they made a guy. wait explain that part to me sorry um. that's right see what they can say is. you can you can use a uh the airwave to. make money by entertaining people right. but you have to tell the real news the. authentic news the important news that. affects policy decisions that Americans.

have to make about their government okay. and you have to do it every day at a. time when all Americans are going to be. home are likely to be home so that's why. we had a six o'clock news hour it's also. radio stations if you probably I don't. know if you remember this or not but it. used to be even the top 40 music. stations. had a news break like every 15 minutes. there was a short in his break when they. would tell you the nurse Hall Harvey. remember him exactly good day yeah.

yeah exactly well they had to do that. that was a legal obligation. and the wow and the News divisions were. separate from the rest of the operations. and they were Untouchable so they'd. bring some you know really a credible. figure like Newton minnow or we had. Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley. and John Chester these guys. who were you know total Integrity people. and everybody the most incredible man. the most the most believed credible man.

in America was Walter yeah and so and. all of those newscasters were people of. extraordinary integrity. then what happened is Ronald Reagan when. he ran for president in 1980 he had the. support of the uh big Studio heads in. California because he'd been the. California governor. they wanted to abolish the fairness. Doctrine so they could get their hands. it was like it's consolidate the entire. media in under Monopoly control and he. had the Christian right.

and the Christian broadcasting stations. did not want to do you know the fairness. they didn't want to show the other side. because they didn't want to show Satan's. side of the argument right so they all. wanted to get rid of the fairness. Doctrine. and So Reagan came in and uh and. appointed a guy I think his name was Tom. wheeler to run. um. the FCC the Federal Communication and. they threw out the fairness document at. that point you saw this huge.

consolidation where they started buying. up everything. you also saw the news divisions were. told okay. you know we don't we don't really need. you to have integrity anymore we need. you to make money so the news divisions. became profit centers and so you saw. more and more news that was not really. news it was you know about Brad and JLo. and it was entertainment yeah it was. tough to get eyeballs to make people and. violence and War and you know.

um and so you saw this deterioration. where from a highly credible people on. the news to people that you have today. who are just you know propagandists for. the government and for the. pharmaceutical companies Muppets man. yeah the people people are turned into. Muppets did um but so. so whenever they so the CR it was. Christian activism that made them end up. making them repeal that it was a. combination of things the great the. Christian broadcasters.

for good reason you know they had good. reason they didn't want to tell because. like for example yeah give me an example. I'll give you an example of that that. um NBC I think it was either NBC or ABC. he was having advertisements we're. selling advertisements for Mustang which. is the automobile oh yeah that Stang. Abby at that point it was the biggest. gas guzzling automobile and so the the. uh an asthma Society of America they.

hated Mustangs yeah they didn't like. Mustangs because come on dude you have. asthma if you get a Mustang you got a. chance with the ladies I feel like but. if you just show up with asthma dude. yeah yeah it's not a good seller yeah it. has has one speed dude. you know sorry go on. so they they wanted to do an ad saying. Mustangs are bad because they're making. us you know they're making us have. asthma attacks. and the and the network didn't want to.

do it they said no you know because they. right we want to sell Mustangs we want. to sell Mustangs. so they they told the the asthma Society. you can't you know we're not gonna let. you we're not going to sell you ad space. so they soon they went to the Supreme. Court Supreme Court said you gotta you. gotta allow them to stop both sides. and they upheld the fairness Doctrine so. you if you applied that Christian. broadcasting and said you got you're. using a public airwave right you know if.

there's atheists out there who want to. give their side of the story right maybe. you'll have to do that so they didn't. want to wow they didn't want to do that. so they were uh you know you can see the. rationale yeah and then also that leans. into more like towards yeah things being. able to create monopolies then it seems. like you know yeah well the Monopoly. exactly and now we are where we are. today what was your sad every city you. go to like I go to a city if you you go. as a comedian you go to do radio. sometimes before and you know uh it used.

to be you had kind of a local radio. station and now all of them or most of. them are kind of Clear Channel you know. and I'm not denouncing Clear Channel I. don't but they're all like usually like. part of a bigger group you know and you. can't find like a local newspaper. anymore like that used to be like part. of the community like getting yourself. in the newspaper you would get like a. little trophy for it's not you know you. didn't do nothing really maybe you found. a missing person or something and they. would put you in the newspaper or. something you know but it was like you. kind of got to see like everything that.

was going on in your community like. baseball scores for Little League games. I think things that made you feel. attached to your environment you know. and uh they don't have that anymore it's. like everything's just too big now to. get it to fit in like smaller. communities you know or maybe you'll get. a paper like once a week now or. something you know it's just different. no I you know I agree 100 sound like. that I think that's. you know and I think there's a real. appetite for local news people want to. know what the you know what happened in. the baseball I mean like you know I grew.

up reading about you know kids who I was. playing you know sports with yeah right. and um and you'd read about them in the. local papers they were Heroes to you. yeah I would say you had Local Heroes. you know it's like yeah now it just. feels like they want all your Heroes to. be like from the Marvel universe or. you're not even allowed to have a hero. anymore you know. um and I don't know maybe I'm maybe I'm. Romancing that a little bit but I. definitely notice it when I go home I. can't find like the local news and see. kind of what's going on and then so.

you're not attached to it you don't. really where do you you consider home. Nashville I'm from uh Louisiana from. Covington Louisiana. so but um this Covington is that is that. in the delta or something no Covington. is south of the dead it's kind of like. uh let me see south west of the uh Delta. yeah Covington is over there we had I'll. tell you something neat about Covington. well we have the tallest statue of. Ronald Reagan and you're welcome to come. see it whenever you want really yeah and.

Michael Lane was supposed to come there. one time but he couldn't make it Michael. Landon he was supposed to stop in he. didn't make it though that's a big. selling point for the yeah Michael. Landon was almost here I guess it's a. pretty big look at that statue though. buddy oh I can't tell how big it is. bigger than the trees though yeah it's. 10 feet tall or it could be somebody. said it's even 12 feet tall but I think. that somebody had a bad ruler on them. but. um also Lee Harvey Oswald went to our. Middle School there. uh for a little bit yeah and what else.

um the Tulane primate facility is there. and they tested the uh polio vaccine. they actually made the polio vaccine. that ended up giving cancer to a lot of. women to like cervical cancer. it had a virus then a monkey virus and. it called sv40 yeah that's where they. tested it at yeah and some of the. monkeys got out when I was a kid and we. got to get out of YMCA summer camp top. and look for him which is pretty crazy. when you think about it is that true. yeah. they had a Kenny Rogers Roasters and.

we're out there wrangling chimps with a. couple of local police. oh pretty cool huh. um but anyway there's actually you know. there's a book you go the Escape right. there. oh wow there's a book called Mary's. monkey yeah and it's about uh you know. the uh Dr Mary's monkey is that it. maybe it's just Mary's monkey doctor. Mary's monkey yeah Mary's monkey. and it's about the uh the secret life. it's about the Kennedy assassination but. it's about the two-lane lab and uh there.

were people involved in that lab who. were you know who were involved with Lee. Harvey Oswald and did you go down a lot. of rabbit holes ever like kind of. searching like just about information. about you know I I feel like. assassinations and stuff I'm really. evidence-based. oh I don't make any presumptions but I I. read everything yeah but and if it's. that book is actually very very well. researched and very interesting yeah.

yeah I think I don't know if I've read. all of it but I've definitely read a. decent amount of it. um. man yeah congratulations since I saw you. last you were running for. election yeah. that's cool man uh you didn't see that. coming yeah I don't know because I think. I almost think I asked you about it I'll. have to go back and see if there was a. clip where I asked you if you would at. some point. I didn't have any intention. um was it hard to did you have to. convince your family that it was okay.

for you to run well the one one person I. had to convince was my wife my kids were. like uh. I actually went up to Boston and they I. had three boys who were in Boston at. that point. and I went out and took him out to lunch. and they were like. they weren't like okay go get them Dad. they were like okay this is what you you. know buy the ticket take the ride you. know and they they were not.

um you know that I think now they're. much happier about it yeah because the. way it's kind of turned out. but they didn't know what was going to. happen at that point and then Cheryl. who you know. um uh. it took she took a lot of convincing but. what happened is I was you know I. thought at one point because they were. censoring me in fact you got you know. yeah we got sensors our episode got. taken down that's right and then. miraculously got put up again how did.

that happen. like a month ago oh it came back up on. YouTube one of the episodes that have. been taken down came back up on YouTube. I mean it had been gone Bobby it had. been gone and then it just showed back. up. that's weird well you sit with them. and I doubt if that's the reason because. there's YouTube yeah they're still. taking our stuff down wow good for you. that's cool in your lawyer because then. you can sue somebody if you need to. that's a great idea you guys actually.

made a wager whether or not that episode. would be taken down RFK uh he said it. would be and Theo bet him that it. wouldn't. oh dang how much is it for yeah how much. was that for we have the clip one sec. all right it's gonna get interesting. we'll see if anybody's getting paid this. week right here brother. God this could be bad well whatever it. is Bobby we'll donate to your campaign. okay. um how have campaign donations been oh. you have this you know we were Eric.

Clapton concert last night let's play a. question that came in actually right. here from a guy uh for you Bobby that's. right is this live this is not live none. of this is live and this question isn't. live this is because I want to make sure. you have an option of not playing this. podcast video no I don't I think we're. okay. yeah I mean we you know I'm generally. curious and I think I'm worried about. your career oh thanks well the good I. feel like I own my own career until like.

I don't need a Hollywood career you know. but it's definitely I worry about like. my career of like I guess maybe like. YouTube canceling us or people saying. that we can't do this anymore you know. yeah that's the scary part is this on. YouTube yeah this will be on YouTube. so with our last one state up. okay well let's make a bet. five bucks. inflation's happening a lot let's make. it 10. we were ahead of the curve big. question right here. but anyway last night you asked about.

donations we got uh yeah we're at the. Eric Eric Clapton. and there's Steve Stills Eric Clapton. and we met and did that at a private. home in Brentwood and uh we got 2.2. million dollars in that way. um we're you know we're doing well on. donations. um how is it because you were kind of. like looked at as like a guy that was. like. a nut case by some people right yeah not. by me I thought you were definitely.

curious and active you know and I knew. you as a person so I knew that like you. seem like a like as normal as a guy. could be to me you know were you. surprised when people started to get on. board though with you like because I. remember I listened to you I mean I I. listened to you on Rogan and I thought. it was one of his best episodes I. thought it was just I remember you. thanking him for letting him letting you. speak right and it was like you know I. remember this listing and I just got a. clear layout of exactly kind of where.

you'd been and how you ended up where. you were you know. um and I thought it was just awesome and. I thought that was such a great. interview did things start to turn after. that or when did things kind of start to. turn do you feel like the big turn for. me was a podcast I did before that. called all in you know that podcast it's. David sacks and it's a bunch of. um tech people. uh who are you know leaders in the in. the kind of attack Bitcoin uh.

uh Community or San Francisco based okay. David Friedberg okay. and it's very very popular I mean I I. cannot I I can't tell you how popular. the reason I know how popular it is is I. almost every day somebody comes up to me. and says I saw you on that wow no matter. where I am in the country and it's a. very weird demographic because it's not. it's all kinds of people like it'll be.

like an old lady and you know young. college kids and. um that's amazing I'm not going to check. this out all in with shamok Jason sax. and friedberger Freiburg. [Music]. um. and so they you know I went on there and. there's four guys and they all kind of. grilled me yeah and uh and then you know. then. uh Rogan brought me on Megyn Kelly was. really good with me she she had me on.

about three times when you know nobody. would let me on. and then Fox started letting me on a lot. and so I I could go on my you know the. thing is that my I get a lot of eyeballs. when I go on so they I think they. this is what they told me because I went. and met with their editorial board. um that you know it was uh that I was. getting more eyeballs than any other. guests wow. on Fox yeah on Fox and um and I think.

the same as CNN but CNN won't let me on. the only guy who's let me on CNN was. Michael mcconish and he was a very short. uh interview but. um. he got a lot of trouble for it wow. um so you're running for you're running. right now you're running for president. yeah with the Democratic under the. Democratic party right at the moment. okay and so the is it usual is it normal.

that someone is able to run against the. incumbent just I want to make this clear. from audience because some audience I. hear words a lot of times and I don't. know what they mean right so like the. incumbent is the guy who's already in. office right yeah so if a president has. already done one term then he's the. incumbent as he goes up to do the second. term right yeah and he has to run. against someone who's submitted by the. other party well well he he ultimately. has around about the other party you. know is going to nominate somebody to.

run against them so the Republicans will. nominate somebody to run again but if. you're a Democrat. if you're popular within your own party. a lot of times you won't have a. challenger from when within your own. party so you'll only have to go to the. prize fight you don't have to. you know fight all the palookas who are. coming after you but and who determines. if they have to fight all the balloons. well it would be you know me I I like I. would run against my father ran against. Linda Johnson when you know Linda John. in 68.

Lyndon Johnson was an incumbent. Democratic president and my father. challenged him and and ultimately. um Johnson withdrew. uh and. he pulled out of the way it raised and. then my father won the primaries I mean. he was killed my father was killed on. the night at the last night of the. primaries so June 6th. um he won you know the last primaries. California and South Dakota and a couple.

of others and he was killed that night. my uncle Ted Kennedy ran in 1980 against. Jimmy Carter who was a president of his. own party. um so yeah it's not uncommon for for. people to run against uh president their. own party and you know I uh I've had a. long friendship with Biden. I've known President Biden for at least. 40 years oh wow and uh and you know he. has a statue a bus my father on the.

behind him in the Oval Office any. picture that you haven't Biden there's a. a bust of my father you can call him. now. um and there's five members of my family. who are working in the administration in. the Biden Administration yeah wow at. different you know different ways yeah. yeah and so uh do you think he'll get. the nomination from his party for the. 2024. well I think I could beat him in the uh. and yeah that you can see in that middle.

one the second one from the right up. there that one there's a there's a. possible life out there behind him wow. that's awesome. that's so cool man that would be cool if. I were my dad. yeah it's wonderful. um do you think that he will get the. yeah so I guess I have two questions. because some of the problems if they. give me a fair fight right bro okay but. before that do you think that they will. he'll get the nomination well I I think. I could get the nomination okay if they.

gave me a fair fight I see do you think. that you're currently getting a fair. fight no why well because they're. they're doing you know the Democratic. party is supposed to be neutral they're. not supposed to choose favorites but. they actually endorse them a week after. he declared. and his campaign is being run out of the. democratic party office which seems like. convoluted huh well it's not it's a. conflict and you know because the party. should be separate from the president. even if they're of the same yeah they're.

supposed to be even if they're both. democratic yeah the party should be. neutral and say look we're going to be. the referees in this fight it's like. okay it's like if you went to a football. game and the referee in the game was. wearing the same uniform as your the. guys you were playing against right you. say hey hey yeah yeah so that's what. they're doing and what they've done is. they've taken the states. that voted most strongly against by the. last time around and they've said if.

anybody visits those if I visit those. States and no vote in that state will. count in the election. so if I go to New Hampshire which I did. any vote that I get in New Hampshire. will not count and if you get to what. for me so if I beat Biden in New. Hampshire and I win all the delegates. those delegates will not be allowed into. the convention but how can they just say. that isn't there like a democratic. process that that overrides that you. would think but actually it the party. makes its own rules and there was a you.

know Bernie Sanders they did the same. thing to Bernie Sanders. and he sued them. and said you know you guys were fit. rigged the game against me you fixed it. and the court said yes they did fix it. but actually it's a private club and. they're allowed to fix it it can make up. any rules they want they can do anything. they want so. see this just leans so much more into. like this stuff that like people feel. like they're voting there you go core. can see DNC had the right to rig.

primaries against Sanders and that. and that's Debbie Wasserman Schultz who. you know who cared Debbie Wasserman. Schultz for violating the DNC chart. about rigging the Democratic. presidential primaries for Hillary. Clinton against Bernie Sanders and she's. the one who tried to silence me when I. testified before Congress a couple of. weeks ago wow. so anyway it feels like so it feels so. dirty at every turn cold turkey it may.

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yeah I mean it's bad to me it's bad for. the country right now because. so many people think the whole system is. rigged yeah that's what it feels like. man and um if my vote doesn't matter and. we should be I think we should the both. parties should be conducting elections. that are incredibly fair and everybody. looks something that says okay this is a. model the America's the exemplary. democracy for the world should be and. one thing you can say about America is.

it has Fair elections and every vote has. counted and you know it's starting to. remind me the articles I would read in. the papers of like Venezuela a lot of. the Central American countries where. they would be. um there would be coups and stuff and. they would be overriding the process. because they thought the elections. weren't fair you know or you know this. will be in the Soviet Union. Communist party they said we're a. democracy but the party would pick the. candidate and that'd be the only guy you. could vote for and that is exactly what. they're doing here they're saying. they're you know they're good they're.

saying. the good and the Badness we have a. democracy but there's only one guy and. everybody's got a vote for him but do. they have the right to do that because. he's the incumbent I understand you have. the right to do it within the Democratic. party process okay and then so they you. know they're gonna. you know uh it's weird what's happening. now Theo because. the Press is now turning against. President Biden so it has been.

interesting to see some of that huh yeah. it's the first time ever I've seen some. of the headlines that are you know. either bringing like his son's issues. into it or. um discussing impeachment I've never. seen that before you know. yeah and the Washington Post it uh. there's a very famous. journalist called David Ignatius who is. uh linked to the intelligence community. and he kind of speaks if you if you you. know if you if you want to talk about. the Deep State yeah David ignaces the.

voice of the deep State and he came out. and said bites got to step down and then. immediately CNN. um published a when uh did a stories. about all Biden's lies and then I think. today either Washington Post or New York. Times oh Maureen Dowd. today about all of uh his lives so that. you see these attacks on Biden I don't. know that were not happening before. right and well you know and you wonder.

what what's going on well if he does. step down I hope it's not a far step to. be honest with you because I don't know. if he can handle it you know I think the. sad the saddest thing to me is I feel. like I feel like Mr Biden just isn't. healthy he doesn't seem like mentally. healthy. right to me and I don't know it could be. that they edit Clips to look a certain. way he just seems like he's. he doesn't seem as healthy as he once. was right and so it I feel like to me. it's like a bad example that we this is.

what we do with our old people we put. them out it's like this is like a you. know somebody we're just using it just I. don't know it just seems like a bad. example of how to treat other people you. know like this for my father and he were. to me what would seem like ailing like. mentally just kind of either losing his. uh composure that he probably once had. and it could be dementia his cognitive. that's what I'm saying if he were losing. it it would just hurt my feelings if. they kept Wheeling him out there you. know but I don't know maybe that's what.

he wants and we just don't hear that. part of it. um. but how so what is your path and to. really get to the presidential. nomination for 2024 is there a path for. you do you feel like. well if President Biden steps out. brother you know the decision kind of. has to be made by October 15th because. there that soon yeah because you'll know. before Halloween yeah the uh October. 15th. um you have to start.

a qualifying in certain States so that. you you have to declare whether you're a. Democrat or an independent or republican. yeah. and you can't a lot of people think well. you can run as a Democrat and then if. you lose everything then you can just. switch to independent and run on. Independent but you can't do that. because a lot of states have sore loser. laws that make it so that you have to. choose early and you can't go you can't. come in you know once you've chosen. Democrat you can't switch independent.

that's fair because every year they let. Odell Beckham Jr join another team right. before the Super Bowl and I feel like. it's the same fair to anybody just I get. that he's good but it doesn't seem that. fair. um so when do you have to so but you've. already chosen that you're a Democrat. right I mean you've been a lifelong. Democrat is there a chance that you. would run as an independent do you look. at that ever like and how do you even. evaluate that yeah I mean I I you know. if they really shut down the process. we're right now you know we're grappling.

with the DNC. trying to get them to do the right thing. but if they rig the process so that I. can't possibly win which is how it's. rigged right now. then I would have to look at other. options I would have to look at running. as you know maybe outside of the party. or something I don't know exactly what I. do I'm hoping that they'll open up the. process and let me run. um you know we pulled this week and I if. if I if President Biden steps down.

um I I have a pretty clear path to the. nomination my numbers are better than. any other Democrats including the vice. president Kamala Harris. um so and then if he stays in and they. give me a you know a fair fight I think. I can beat him yeah. um so wow so it's kind of it's tough to. figure out kind of you're kind of just. navigating the space huh who's ahead in. the National polls well he beats me.

among Democrats in the National polls. but if you could get a third of people. to switch that were Republicans yeah. that's the thing is that those polls. aren't looking at the Republicans who. want to vote for me or The Independents. okay. um if you can't get it run this year. would you run in the next next one no. I'm are you thinking that far ahead okay. no I'm not thinking all about that okay. uh um some people say that you are that.

the Republican party like set you up to. take do you ever hear Do you hear about. this yeah I hear that and I'm like a. stalking horse for Trump and all I can. say is you know I don't believe that I'm. just asking you I don't believe it well. you should ask me. I mean you shouldn't do it publicly like. you just did really no no I'm just. kidding okay now you should ask me yeah. yeah but here's the thing here's the. problem with that first of all. if the Democrats make rules that say I.

cannot win you know and then they. complain about me running somewhere else. it's like it's like the you know it's. like a guy who murders his parents and. then throws himself on the mercy of the. court because he's an orphan yeah you. know they're they're they're they're. trying to get public sympathy for a. problem that they created I hate when I. see Bananas Foster on the menu. but no I see what you're saying it's. almost like they're playing two cards. that are trying to do two different. things but one of them kind of concedes. that there's some truth in the other one.

yeah but and then the other thing is. that I take more votes from president. Trump than I do from President Biden. right so why would that help them yeah. it's not helping them yeah. yeah I thought about that. um. when you look at uh. do you feel like there's. do you feel like that the Democratic. National party has treated you fairly. like they do every other candidate do. they always try to like. how does that usually work I think what.

they do you know the DNC has a lot of. donors okay the DNC yeah the Democratic. National Committee you know and the. donors are BlackRock State Street. Vanguard really yeah the big. pharmaceutical company all the people. that I assume Monsanto Etc. they've got two billion dollars in their. bank accounts and it comes from those. donors and they don't those donors do. not want to see me. you know running as the Democratic yeah. yeah and spending their money. environmentalists for sure right and.

spending their money then you know to. dismantle their. uh they're very exploited business. models and so Progressive candidates. like me who challenged you know the. corporate control of our country. even like Bernie Sanders Tulsi gambard. and me are are you know told we don't. want you in the party so that's you know. and who do you get an email do you get a. loan it's not a tax time we just watch. what they do with the rules you know how. can they change the rules so that votes.

for me in New Hampshire don't count see. it's taking so it's like. you know Dennis kucinich who's running. my campaign who's ran for president. twice himself and Dennis kucinich yeah. he was a. he was the youngest mayor in the country. he was the boy mayor of Cleveland uh you. know they tried the mafia tried to kill. him when he was shot at him and stuff. when he was mayor of Cleveland he's a. very very Progressive. uh and you know man of utter complete.

Integrity. but he you know he's been around Paula. he served I think I don't know six or. eight maybe 10 or 12 terms in Congress. he was and he ran for president twice. and. um. he uh he got bullet through his through. his uh I think it was living. um wow. um it's a party. Dennis kucenic yeah anyway he said to me. you know when I was saying uh you know.

when we were talking about the. Democratic party he said to me what part. of fu. do you not understand you know they're. not they don't have to write you a. letter and say right you know go jump in. the lake there. they're just saying they're they're. changing the rules so that you know. they're rigging the game against against. the Democratic process does that inspire. you what does that inspire you a little. bit that that's what's going on like you. know I I have the same program you do.

yeah just live one day at a time yeah. keep doing the next right thing yeah and. you know trying to maintain kind of my. intercom and not. um and uh you know if God wants me. right to win. I'm gonna I just gotta keep doing the. right thing and I think it's in that. case. that's a great Point man so I I feel. like I mean I go to a meeting every day. I'm in a different city every day and.

that's the one thing I always wow. and I I'm been in some good ones. recently anywhere particular that kind. of stood out. I went to one in Maine that was pretty. cool a few months back I got an hour and. a guys was like this and our no I yeah I. went to one the other day where uh. it was a guy and first of all I went to. one in Barbados one time they were. talking no beer for me man they were. talking about it was like a nine-step. meeting and they were talking about how. to take curses off of people.

and I went to one in Belfast during the. war there which was really interesting. oh wow yeah but I went to one the other. day and they were um it was uh and I. went to this it was in New Hampshire and. they were they were um. uh and that the people I had been a. couple times and they and the people in. that meeting recognized me they know who. I am most of them. and it's it's a very supportive. atmosphere for me you know I don't know.

whether Republicans are Democrats but. anyway it's very not it's a very warm. safe kind of place. and I'm. I heard a guy there was a break they. take those meetings up in New England. they took a five minute cigarette break. halfway through the meeting yeah and uh. it's from like the old old days yeah. and they uh this guy. was sitting like four or five seats. behind me and he he's you know one of.

these old people. who talks really loud because he's going. deaf yeah and he's uh you know they. compensate by talking super loud yeah. yeah and he was saying uh. he was saying RFK Jr. and he had three or four of his cronies. around him talking and they were. whispering to him you know that's RFK Jr. and he said he's the antifaxa and I you. know I was just listen I was like you. know I can hear what you're saying. anyway yeah well some senior citizens.

are Whispering it's a little a little. high a little high on the whisper and. then he when he did speak at that. meeting and he spoke about. you know how important it was to get. your jab and stuff and um and I could. tell it was directed sort of you know. clearly it was erected with me. but I'm you know I feel like peaceful. and uh afterward I went up and you know. talked to him said hi and and uh and.

smile but I I you know it makes me I my. job is. the state sort of peaceful and Serene. and um and not and anything that I've. ever done in my life that is enduring. that is important. um has come out of you know that. spiritual place and anything that I do. that comes from frenetic activity. is uh you know it's just wormwood and. bile I know I I remember reading about.

Abraham Lincoln where he you know he was. the rail splitter and everything I had a. bunch of cats too he had cats yeah he's. a big cat owner really I know that he. I know that he loved animals I I did not. know about the cat some man gave him two. hat two some man gave him two cats. William Seward right there oh he was. giving a second gift of two kittens from. Secretary of State he's a real catboy. I've been to his home they you know his.

home in Springfield yeah and they one. that one cool thing that's really neat. about Springfield bring it up if you can. Nick they have like the whole. neighborhood they turned into a museum. so you can go to his neighbor's house. you can go down the street it's really. cool yeah like you literally feel like. you're in the past yeah I um so he also. on the same subject of him and animals. he was he killed a turkey when he was. like 12 years old he shot it from his. cabin in Kentucky and gobblers yeah and.

he he went out. and he saw it and it's it's final. suffering and he found that he would. never kill an animal again. he was probably the only person in this. generation that when if his wagon was. going down the road it was going to run. over his snake he'd stop and get out and. pick the snake up and move it he was you. know which is ironic because. you know he he had uh he ran a war that. killed 659.

000 people but Grant Ulysses Grant who. did a lot of the killing you know hand. to hand. hear the same thing he he never lost. this time the only time that he was ever. seen to lose his temper was when he saw. a man beating a horse hmm some real. animal lovers you know hooker there was. a colonel hooker or general General. hooker that's how they got the term. hookers because he brought ladies in oh. really to spend time with his troops you. know a lot of history of interesting.

history I don't know about that but. that's I know about hookers buddy I mean. unfortunately. anyway but I do know that Civil War yeah. they brought in hookers first but. um American Civil War he was popularly. with his men because he didn't crack the. whip. um in terms of discipline it said uh. after a hard day on the battlefield. he would bring in prostitutes but they. eventually a lot of his men got diseases.

from unprotected sex and killed a lot of. them anyway moving on I was saying about. Lincoln Lincoln said and he was asked. how do you um. what would you do if you had to cut down. a like a really big oak tree and you had. five hours to do it. he said I'd spend four hours sharpening. the ax you know which is good yeah. because it it's like it's um it's a. metaphor for you know keeping yourself. in kind of a good spiritual space you. know that if it's like it's you're more.

efficient you're more effective you. expend less energy yeah yeah man I I. definitely that's been a probably a. struggle for me this year is trying to. do too much getting frenetic and then. acting I'm getting a little better I'm. getting better at it but acting from a. place of like frenetic you know it's. just man sometimes it just gets tough. it's tough you know but every time I. slow it down every time I kind of do my. morning routine well and do my practices.

everything's way different. um what was what was one thing that. sobriety we're both sober so what was. one thing that um sobriety kind of. adjusted or changed in your for you in. your life that you didn't expect Maybe. what was something that came out of it. or being a part of it or around it. well it changed everything in my life. because I think before I came in I was. just like a bundle of appetites you know. and that's when you're you're kind of. living.

uh according to self-will and you know. it's like whether it's you know drugs or. alcohol or sex or extreme Behavior or. just you know. I was always just filling that empty. hole inside of me with with things. trying to fix that by reaching for. things outside of myself and my mind is. like a formulation Pharmacy I can turn. anything into a drug and. um you know uh.

and then. um. and then trying to adjust your compass. so that you're you know you're not. living for self-will but you're trying. to. um do the next right thing and and you. know be of service to others. um and that you know that that is what. you know when I I was a when I I feel. like I was born an addict I feel like I. had just an empty hole inside of me from.

when I was a little kid you don't think. so you don't think it was something. really that caused it when you look at. it I don't think so but you know and you. hear in the program all the time like. half the people think. they were born within another to think. that you know trauma you know had. something to do with it but you know I. also I I there's certain races like the. Irish. that oh yeah what we know yeah there's. other ones too they're the most thirsty. yeah I mean they're good they make it.

look good I mean I mean we call it the. Irish flu yeah because it it uh. you go into a meeting and you know yeah. in any meeting any place in the country. and half the people in it or you know. Brian and oh yeah a lot of Irish yeah. um was there was there were there was. alcoholism in your family was it popular. in my mother's family it was back to the. Neanderthals wow they were all you know.

and of all of my other siblings she was. in the only one that did not get it and. uh wow that's a lot then that's pretty. strong yeah it's just it's it's good to. have a program man I think it adds a lot. I think it's definitely been a Saving. Grace for me uh. for sure just the people I get to meet. like last night a guy texted me a new a. new guy I've been texting in the in the. rooms and we're texting and he he hit me. up yesterday I was like hey you want to. go to a meeting I wasn't going to go you. know so next thing you know I go and. we're like over in Venice and it's 8 P.M.

we're sitting on a porch at some guy's. house you know listening to a guy talk. about how he was in a gang and his. brother uh got killed right next to him. you know and uh and now for years he was. using and then finally he started to get. help and got in the program and just but. to sit there and hear a story like that. was that real you know that's part of. the fun of going to the main right I. mean it just puts something real in your. life it's like I left out of there like. sure you know it was very sad but it was. like a real thing it was like I left out. of there with like I don't know it just.

people sharing makes you feel more. connected you know you know when you uh. when you got sober did you realize did. you because a lot of I know a lot of. comics feel like you know that the. alcohol and the drugs are part of what. makes them funny did you and that they. have anxiety about getting sober because. they think it might hurt. yeah I think I had some of that for sure. you know I was in and out for a long. time I had three years sober and then I.

was in and out and then. finally I just was so spiritually just. empty you know I gotten a decent amount. of popularity and I thought that that. would achieve my happiness or it would. do something for me and it just didn't. do anything it was like literally. getting to a top of a mountain and or. you know a decent ledge on a mountain. and you're like dang I'm still on a. mountain you know that's what it felt. like and so I think that just made me. realize that there was something bigger. going on inside of me that I had to get. some help for.

um and then just the gifts of it like. seeing other people get well like seeing. people's lives turn around like just. it's it's cool I can go to a place every. day I can go somewhere and witness a. miracle almost and that's unbelievable. you know people are looking for miracles. and reasons to make them feel you know. and so I think that's one of the reasons. I go to is because there it makes me. feel in there you know like regular life. it was always trying to find something. to make me feel and I could never I. couldn't do it there wasn't anything.

that was doing it enough enough but man. I go in there and I see somebody who. their life has changed and man it makes. me feel you know and that's really what. I've always been looking for I've just. been wanting to feel and that's probably. one of the most blessings of it and then. just getting to meet cool I mean like. you know you and I are friends I have so. many most of my friends are sober. yeah you know it's kind of crazy it's. just how it kind of works out and also. some of them needs to be the biggest. derelict so you get to hang out with the. craziest people in the world you know I.

mean alcoholics are generally kind of. Desperados yeah oh they're interesting. do you feel like a Desperado in this. campaign I mean one thing that I've that. I thought about was interesting about. you is that nobody was in your pocket. because nobody was getting on board with. you it you know you like yeah it seemed. like there's no choice like there's. nothing that's like this is who we this. is this guy is what he is whether you. he's not working for anybody that's what. it always was like that's the most.

admirable thing to me about anything. these days is like I just want somebody. who's not part of the status quo because. the status quo feels very dangerous or. the system feels dangerous you know yeah. does that make sense or not yeah and I. you know it's I don't know I think you. know my campaign the way it came. together it feels I don't know it just. feels like um. uh there's some. you know they're all the people are.

involved in it are people who are. you know on some kind of a spiritual. Quest you know and it's it's really. interesting. because they came from all you know. different but you know I there was a. early on in my campaign. wouldn't have any money because most. people who join who started campaign are. their Senators Governors they've been in. politics before right so they have an. email list and they have a huge War.

chest they come in with 20 or 30 million. dollars and you're not allowed to raise. any money until you register with the. FEC with federal election commissions. okay you know so you and now I announced. my campaign. and I have no money in the bank so no. you know let's say I get 5 000 calls the. next day I want to help you I got nobody. to answer the phone I don't have a phone. because I'm not allowed to spend money. until I register. and so we were really desperate for. money at the outset and a guy.

said. um contacted me and said through a. friend and said you know I wanna I can. get 10 million dollars for you fast and. oh damn nice man uh. I met him in my hotel and I was like one. of those consolidation credit card. things. no it was just a guy you know he was an. attorney who had a lot of clients. in Industries and he said um who would.

give me money. but they were industries that I really. didn't want to take money from yeah and. I um and so and he left. and I just didn't it just didn't feel it. felt like it just didn't feel right and. so I called the guy who had brought him. in and I just said I can't do it. and I immediately felt like yeah that. was the right decision yeah you know if. we're supposed to win we'll win but you.

know whatever happens. um at the end of this process I'm gonna. have my Integrity intact and that's the. only thing that really matters yeah. um wow that's cool man your wife seems. so proud of you I saw you on tigerbelly. I felt like she seems she seemed so. proud of you it seemed pretty that was. wild that show yeah I thought at first. when I was all there I was like this is. a different world but I think yeah were. you have you been on the show I've been. on the show before yeah and what did you. think of it it's Bonkers in there you. know it's like uh but it's just this.

very high energy but yeah he's so he's. such a sweet yeah Bobby's a lovable guy. I love him yeah he is and he's um. what is he like he's had a kind of a. wild life you know he's had an. interesting life and but he's beloved by. people and I think part of his podcast. is just being in his world and what it's. like you know so I thought it was Brave. for you to go but I also thought that it. was cool you know when you got to see. you and your wife and I just felt like. man I could tell your wife to seem real. proud of you maybe she's also just a. good actress but she seems yeah.

she seems to love me but you know I have. to keep saying she's an actress how do I. know that's a good point yeah one day. she could just say and scene. um there was recently there was like you. guys had a uh you guys had an issue with. the security right that that happened. this is a few days ago maybe where they. had a guy who was a like it looked like. he was uh here we go arm man arrested at. RFK Junior campaign event in Los Angeles. was this guy armed and supportive of you.

or was he armed and it seemed like he. was against you or was there did you. have any take on this. he was he showed up and he asked um. yeah he was wearing a U.S Marshal badge. you can see it in some of the he was. wearing a lanyard you can see the. lanyard around his neck there and at the. end and that is a badge and identified. him as a U.S Marshal. and then he hit a federal ID on his belt.

okay you can see there yeah right he has. some other kind of badge on his belt and. you see the badge around his neck. and um. and that was determined to be fake and. somebody from my Gavin Decker Associates. was just was doing is doing my security. they want you know the White House will. not give me sacred service protection so. I you know I've I've retained this this. group that's the premier. Security Group in the country and they.

um and one of their guys looked at that. badge and said that's too shiny it's not. it's not a real badge and so then they. he why he called somebody else who's. armed. and the two of them cornered him and. then they called the police and they. kept them in the corner they didn't want. to grab them because they didn't want to. start a shootout. and they could see that he had shoulder. holsters on eBay and so then the police.

came and arrested me he was asking for. me. oh he was looking for me and he uh he. had two shoulder holsters that were. fully loaded uh pistols and then he had. you can see that badge on his hip yeah. he's badged up huh yeah and then he uh. and he had he was also had a backpack. that had another weapon in it. another guy like a sword he also had. knives on him and he had a lot of extra.

um magazines filled with ammunition so. he said afterwards apparently his. brother said oh he heard there was a job. opening for security but you don't go to. a job opening for security. guns and knives and two three pistols. his brother who brought him there also. was like you know like an Armory right. they had all car filled with with. weapons wow I have no idea I don't know.

what he was looking for but I'll tell. you what the thing that you should do is. go on his YouTube I mean his uh Tick. Tock yeah he is a tick tock it's like. that he just opened so he only has one. really. yeah. nickel find it it is uh. yeah. at the end of that thing he says.

something to the effect of. I'm going out to do a job right now and. if I don't come back you know it's I if. I don't come back report to your. commander. Donald J Trump. your commander a chief so it's a very. kind of okay you want to watch this it's. about a minute yeah it's worth watching. let's watch it you gotta turn the sound. up. oh big homie Zorro over here I.

think this is his brother talking to him. more like God's gangster I hear. you're the man with the plan what's the. word I got it all. actually there's too much to tell you. right now. so I want you guys to go over to rumble. check out icons 2020. Sarge I will be speaking with him. and Alex Collier. you're not retiring homie you didn't.

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if I don't make it back. call the president. your commander-in-chief Donald J Trump. and where's he going I didn't see a door. over there when it was a wide shot so. that's the weird part if you just. walking just over here like find some. tool chests. wow I mean look dude just I don't know. yeah you don't have y'all don't have the. best track record with like. um you know you mean the family yeah I.

don't want to say that but yeah I mean. and yeah I shouldn't have said it like. that but you know it's like is it more. scary but you can't live in fear what. are you gonna do I'm not gonna live in. Fair yeah I I know yeah. it is what it is and. um you know but but the the White House. should definitely be giving me secret. service or can you save your receipts. and if you get in there can you get. reimbursed or not what no oh yeah oh so. and I think that's what they're up to. that they want to you know bleed me. white essentially you know from money.

perspective but I'm. a I'm the first candidate in history. that has requested Secret Service. protection they haven't given to but do. they give it to you this early because. here's what because the the Press has. been dishonest about this. you're entitled to it they have to give. it to you 120 days out from the before. the the general election if what what. circumstances to all candidates 120 days.

out okay well you have to have a certain. polling number but I've I've surpassed. all the thresholds by far okay. so. um but like my Uncle Teddy was given a. secret service protection 551 days out. but he was also Apollo he was like a. lifelong politician well he was a he was. a politician but he wasn't even running. for president he. he was talking about running for. president against a president his own.

party like me it's not harder but Carter. said. you better protect him right away right. and even though he hadn't officially. declared the Secret Service protection. Obama got it 450 days out John McCain. got it. four or five hundred days out I'm I. think I'm like 300 days out now. Jesse Jackson got it Shirley Chisholm. you go down there's probably 30 of them. who've all gotten it long before the 120.

days okay. and I get you know I mean we gave them a. 68 page. um yeah I'm reading about that yeah and. why you should have it yeah. because I get death threats all the time. and I you know I had a mentally ill. person. I break into my house a month ago and. and make it to the second floor no are. you at your house yeah so oh my God you. know I mean so I I they should you would.

think that the president would uh yeah. you don't if you know Biden can't you. just like ask him well we're not I'm. talking terms at the moment okay. damn that's a bummer yeah because you. think you'd be able to hit him up and be. like Joey you know. trade you an ice cream for a couple of. front door goons you know you know what. I'm saying a couple Sharpshooters dude I. bet you trade you sent him a box of mint. chocolate chip but he'll get whatever. you want you think yeah it could be I. mean you know I think every man loves to. have a dessert.

um do you think that Donald Trump will. will legally be allowed to run in the. election. yeah I don't think they can I'm from. running even if he was in jail yeah. he's still entitled to run because. there's only you know the the. Constitution uh. the Constitution says there's only three. things that you got to do to be you have. to be a citizen you have to be born in. here and you have to be over 35 years of. my age okay. and that's it you can be a president. there's like there's no way to block.

somebody because they got convicted uh. you know it's in the Constitution what. the criteria is for being president yeah. it's funny because I feel like some. people like Trump because they he just. wasn't a politician you know he could. have been anybody he could have been a. fraggle he could have been a a mime I. think some people just want anything. that's not they just something has to. change they feel like at the very least. I'll vote for something that's not a. politician I just feel like people start.

to feel like this the overall system is. so corrupt you know. um and I think that's something that's. been kind of harrowing just to voters. overall. um. you know people are. people are suffering in this country now. yeah we're not you know like I said. before when you know with housing. our kids are not going to get you know. the American promise the American dream. was at this promise that if you worked. hard you believe other rules you could.

afford a house you could have a summer. vacation you could take care of your. family. and you could put money aside from. retirement with one job yeah and there. you know my kids that you know I have. seven kids you know six of them are in. that 20 30 range and not none of them. and none of their friends are looking. for a house because it's so Out Of Reach. and I'm you know you have all generation. of kids who now are struggling with with.

college accidents they what they they. recall it was seven times what I paid. they're never going to pay off that. college debt and they're never going to. own a home for most of these kids and. it's like like you know the American. dream is gone right and so then if you. don't have an American dream then what. do you have you know that's I think. that's the reason it starts to get sad. that's one of the reasons that people. are so angry at both Republicans and. Democrats because there's a level of. disintegration in this country and.

deterioration I mean I. you know I do I end up talking to a lot. of people because of my job you know I I. represent a thousand families in. Columbiana County Ohio for the Norfolk. Southern spill oh yeah um and you know. all of these environmental cases I end. up talking to people at every level of. society and I see the desperation that. people are living in it's like. you know elderly people now are. splitting their prescription or their. drug prescriptions cutting pills into to.

make them. stretch out the week so they can buy. food there's these young couples who. have a crying baby you have to wonder. whether the baby is fifty dollars sick. or 100 sick or. fifteen hundred dollars sick before they. bring them to a hospital yeah there's. people you know your age and my kids age. who um who are choosing between gasoline. and food. and uh you know there it's a 57 of. people in this country cannot put their.

hands on a thousand dollars if they have. an emergency. for somebody like that if the engine. light goes on in the car it's the. apocalypse yeah because they they know. they can't afford that mechanic. they know okay now I can't get to work. I'm going to lose my job then I'm gonna. lose my house and then I'm going to be. like all those people in San Francisco. who are just regular you know Joes yeah. and they should not they weren't drug.

addicts they weren't mentally ill they. just had a string of bad luck there the. engine light went on their car and they. couldn't find the mechanic that's what I. feel like I feel like the engine lights. on in this country yeah that's what I. feel like well you know when you're you. know when you're driving around with. your engine on empty oh yeah yeah and. you yeah right and you can't think of. anything else because you're thinking. how am I going to be able to get that. gas tank and it literally makes you. stupid it makes you you lose IQ because. that's all you can think about now.

put two kids in the back of your car you. know one toddler in a baby seat and. another kid and you're now magnifying. that anxiety and now you're driving. through a bad neighborhood and you're. starting to think of all of the bad. things that well that's what it's like. living paycheck to paycheck and that's. what Americans are doing and uh. it's like most Americans wake up every. day and with that sense of impending to. them and they're it's like they're. driving around empty they don't know.

what's going to happen and they're. desperate and they and nobody is. listening to them the politicians aren't. listening to the Republican or the. Democrats. and Donald Trump comes along and says. I'm going to break things and uh and. they love him and I get it you know and. the Democrats can't understand why are. all these people liking Donald Trump. that's the reason yeah because you're. not listening to him yeah I think and. people want anything I'd have voted for. I'd vote for a literally a puppet I'd. vote for Grover I'd vote for anything.

that wasn't Apollo you know that wasn't. a career politician because I'm just so. over it and you see these shows like. painkiller and like um yeah that one on. Hulu too the one that I can't remember. yeah what was it called the one about. the sacklers yeah yeah. if that show didn't ruin your faith in. taking care of people in this country. it's unfucking real man I hate to use. that language but it made me so mad bro.

yeah it just made me so mad how. compromised we are how it feels you know. um because if we're not even out here. caring about each other then what are we. even doing you know that's what it. starts to feel like it's like if we're. not out here trying to do something like. then what are we we're just then what. you know I'm just out here to have a. nice car it's just I don't know man yeah. it's it's about is it about. we're just here to make a big pile for. ourselves and whoever dies with the most. stuff wins yeah but we've proven that.

there's no value in it it's like it's. been proven over and over again that. there's no value in it you know. um when you uh. when you come across people like that. right on your campaign Trail and you. like what do you offer them what type of. Hope do you offer them well you know I. think that's why I have because. I mean I have specific things that I'm. going to do to make well I mean like. with housing one of the things I'm gonna. do.

is I'm going to make a three percent. mortgage available to every American for. a single family home. oh if you right now you know you're. gonna pay seven or eight or nine percent. I'm going to cut that down so your. mortgage for the average home 215 or 400. 000 a thousand dollars a month. which people can afford and it's going. to allow you to compete and your kids to. compete with BlackRock. I'm going to change the tax code to make. it more difficult for them to you know.

to buy up all the single family homes. which is not good for democracy not good. for our country. you know if you have a rich uncle. you can get a uh who will Coast on your. mortgage you can get a much cheaper. mortgage rate because the bank is. looking at his credit rating you know. his perfect credit rating rather than. your nepotism kind of oh you know. they're and what I'm going to do is I'm. going to give everybody a rich Uncle.

which is Uncle Sam I'm gonna get uh the. U.S government to Coast on your mortgage. now if you default. and the government owns your house oh no. foul no loss. but it's going to allow you to stay in. that house and you know I'm going to. give the first half Mill 500 000 to. teachers because we need to start. supporting the teachers in this country. but to make them available to all. Americans who want a single family home. because we need widespread homeownership. Thomas Jefferson said American democracy. can only survive if they're if it's.

based on. on tens of thousands of independent. freeholds owned by individual Americans. and you know not big corporations the. aristocratic the feudal model. where the billionaires on the Landscapes. and we all are you know we we're no. longer Citizens We're now you know we're. now subjects or not you know we're serfs. on our in our own country yeah that's. what it feels like it feels like we're. subjects and the Lords won't even tell. us who they are yeah exactly that's the.

sickest part at least show your. face you know at least let me know who's. you know it's like that's what it feels. like a lot of times. um I know you went and visited the. Border we had a border patrol security. uh we had a gentleman on here who was. the head of the border patrol oh Chris. clam no this guy he had retired huh Roy. Villarreal okay he came on here this is. two years ago and he was talking about. one of the biggest issues that he was. noticing at the border this was in. Arizona that was his jurisdiction was. that.

um they were people were getting the the. the the legislative branches weren't. working well so like they would arrest. people but they weren't Prosecuting them. so they would get just the same people. back over and over again so it seemed. like such a goose chase. um. 100 times worse now wow is now that. people are just I mean I was there. between two and four a.m in the morning. I watched 300 people just walk across. and then the border patrol brings them. to the airport and um you know they. probably they fingerprint them but. they're criminal then they go into a.

different you know line but the rest of. them are brought to the Yuma Airport. given a um uh I took it to any place. they want to go on the United States and. then we pay for it if they don't have. the money for it and you know they've. 110 000 have landed in New York and this. is a humanitarian crisis I I talked to. the people who are coming over. they've been exploited extorted beaten. what's what's happened is the the whole. thing's run by the Mexican drug cartel. we saw the buses the AF white buses the.

cartelons. 55 people have passed they picked them. up in Mexicali and they bring them to. the border and they let them out the. people who come out are from every. country they're not you know they're. from all over and they have to pay the. cartel from Asia right they have to pay. the cartels to get through their land 50. well. right but they pay them usually up front. ten to fifteen thousand dollars to get. them across the United States and the. cartels are advertising all over the. world and they're advertising on YouTube.

they're telling you exactly what's going. to happen to you. they come across and then what happens. is they're given by the border patrol. the Border there's nine border patrol. committed suicide because what they're. being asked to do is not their job. they're just. escorting people seven million people. have come across illegally in three. years and. legal immigration during that period was. 3.1 million so the cartels are literally. controlling our immigration policy and. uh.

we have a video that I made you know an. 18-minute video that shows what happened. but but you were only down there for. what how long were you down there for I. was there for three days okay and then. um you know and then we've been feeling. you know we made the film we you know. I've been writing a lot about it and. researching it and it can totally be be. uh shut down overnight they're not and. what happens is people think what well. there there's all those people. but I just wonder is that a long enough.

like time to go see it like three days. is that a realistic I had three intense. days first of all the first night. watching all these people come and then. spending the next days with local law. enforcement local sheriff's department. the ice. a border patrol or the local medical. systems the doctors and doing you know. yeah interviews no it's good to talk. with those people that's why we wanted. the guy because we kept hearing the. Border but it gets it gets like becomes. like this political like Red Rover that. that that different parties use and you.

never know what's going on that's why we. wanted a border patrol agent in so we. could really see what happens there's a. guy called Chris clam who was the head. of the Border Patrol and Yuma. and he's fantastic and he's giving us. advice but you know what happens is if a. lot of the Democrats think oh we're. being kind to these people by letting. them in but we're not in fact. what happens is they're given a court. date for seven years in the future to go. to the Asylum court so they have seven. years in this country where there they. have no legal.

status. so they're not allowed to work so they. um they they'll work for five or six you. know you have unscrupulous employers. yeah five or six bucks an hour and then. you know they're they're employed on. construction sites in New York. the employee of the construction company. that's employing them is competing for. bids against a union labor company. because he's paying six bucks an hour. right so but just but just as guilty as.

the as the people who are undermining. the system right as they are of. undermining the system people can have. their own like uh social beliefs about. it but there is guilt of undermining. what the system is that's in place but. those the people that pay them to work. are also guilty right if they're yeah I. mean when I you know what here's what I. would do. and first of all you need you need to. hire a thousand Asylum judges and you. need to adjudicate before people come in.

once they come in they're entitled to. stay here they get a court date put them. right on the border like judge you. exactly and they adjudicate right there. and um and and then it will shut down. the border and but most of the people 99. of the people we interviewed didn't even. have an asylum claim they just said I'm. here to work I want a job right and so. they you know they are not entire they. have to come through the regular line. like everybody else legally yeah that's. what's fair is just doing it legally. because you can't keep if you don't have. Accounting in inventory of your business. then you're bound to go yeah you know.

I'll tell you how you shut it down. overnight and this is what I'm going to. do the day I get into office. I'm going to wave pass Point fees for. all any American who can't afford it now. what that means is if you can get a. passport card I don't know if you've. seen it looks like a license right it's. a federal ID with your picture on it. and the problem is it costs 65 and. there's some paperwork attached that.

makes it difficult for very poor people. to get them. and so there's a lot of people in our. country who are poor particularly in. cities who don't drive cars they don't. have a driver's license they have no. government issued ID now if you don't. have a government issued ID. you're a second class citizen you cannot. open a bank account which means you're. using you know the the uh paycheck uh. you know companies that take 10 of your. Social Security check to cash your check.

you can't get on an airplane you can't. stay at a hotel you can't visit your. kids at school and. um so what I'm going to do there's 33. 000 post office in this country I'm. going to make it very easy for any. American citizen who can't afford it to. go down to the local post office and get. a passport ID. once they do that you now tell employers. you cannot hire somebody unless they. have that passport right day I will shut. down the Border overnight because. nobody's going to come through if they.

know they cannot get a job because now. you're probably now you can prosecute. employers right now what they do the. employer construction firm in New York. they they're just they don't care if. you're legal or illegal. they just want somebody who's cheapest. possible and that they can check the box. so they asked for social security card. the Social Security card has no picture. on it they're easily fabricated and. they're handed you know passed down from. person to person oh yeah those things. are nuts right and so you can't put the.

employer in jail. because he says hey I I got a social. security card but now you're telling the. employer the employer is illegal for the. employer to do it right and now you're. saying you gotta have a passport card. where you're going to jail okay that at. that point all illegal employment dries. up overnight nobody is going to employ. somebody with the risk of going to. prison. but and one other thing it'll do is that. um it will solve a lot of the anxieties.

that people have Republicans. particularly about voting. because they say oh you know these. people are coming in and they're voting. people are voting without ID and they're. double voting they're committing voting. for well now everybody has an idea and. you can't have any of that kind of. voting fraud. and and the Democrats supported I mean. the Democrats will support it although. Biden won't sign this bill but um but. you know the big civil rights leaders. like Andy young Al Sharpton are all. behind this ID this idea so we can solve.

all these problems and the anxieties in. the debate about the voting system and. whether you need ID or not right now. Democrats oppose ID laws and the reason. they what they opposite is they say if. you get if you force people to show an. ID you're disenfranchising a lot of. students who don't have driver's license. you're disenfranchising poor people who. live in the city who don't have driver's. license. and there's other people in the country.

elderly people a lot of their license. have left so they don't have ID and you. disenfranchise all of those those are. all Democrats so the Democrats say we. shouldn't ID laws now we've got civil. rights leaders who's saying yeah let's. have IDs to vote but let's give. everybody an ID so everybody can get one. right then nobody has an excuse and. nobody has an excuse yeah. what do you say to so some people would. say that that it that takes away some of. the old like adage and the old like uh.

romantic idea of like. um you can come to America and you can. make it here does that does that do that. by making the Border because what are. you doing making the Border more. organized you're not saying there's no. country in the world that. has an insecure border yeah. we have to be able to control. we should let a lot of people in Legally. make it much easier to get citizenship.

um and make sure that there's plenty of. people to you know to uh for employers. Etc. so that we can keep our country humming. yeah right and but we should be able to. select who comes through not have the. Mexican drug cartels select I agree it's. a good point no it's I mean it's. disheartening it's very scary to think. that anybody can just come in you know I. mean I know that we're all here and. we're blessed to be here I just think it. needs to be organized. um remember when Reagan had that plan.

that couldn't you sponsor people that. were coming in well you still can you. know that people that'd be awesome bro. well but you still can do that I mean. legally 3.1 million people are coming. across and a lot of them are coming. across unvisas that require them to have. a sponsor because they're employment. visas. an employer says we need this guy we. need to bring him from Uzbekistan let's. bring him one hit or I'll sponsor Hector. to sponsor your family member submit a. U.S citizen United States citizenship.

and Immigration Services form 130 each. person you sponsor needs a separate form. 130. huh let me ask you this we should. sponsor one is a podcast. how long has your family been in this. country let me see my father came over. in. 1922. from where from Nicaragua and my. mother I don't know when she came. probably probably she's probably been. here for like 100 200 years. so and what it what like ethnic group. issues let me see polish Italian and.

Nicaraguan that's what I am. and Nicaraguan is that Hispanic or is it. Indian or um actually it's a good. question it's uh it's a little bit of. both I think it's part Aztec maybe I. gotta check and see the mosquito Indians. are down there are they oh yeah dude. that's probably me then. um I gotta see my but I remember my. father's birth certificate. um but have you ever done like 23 in May. or anything like that yeah I've done it. I don't know what they said they email.

me so much they're like guess who's. allergic to milk in your area they're. always sending like weird emails now you. know yeah I know I and I don't trust. them really yes. we got all my stuff yeah guess who it's. guess who hates cinnamon rolls on your. street you know they're like what what. does this matter is it a cousin or not I. went hiking this morning with Tulsi. gabbard you went hiking with her yeah. and I was asking her about her you know. her ethnic background and she said she. did 23. she actually did uh there's a TV.

show with a. um they they investigate your background. oh yeah they do it with celebrities I. thought I think yeah Barrymore was on it. yeah and she did that oh that's good. they said. um that she had the most ethnically. diverse background that they'd ever run. into wow she is she is uh art Samoan so. she's Polynesian yeah I like that yeah. that's fantastic and she uh but then. she's got everything else you know she's.

got the whole like every country in. Europe I wish I could be Samoa and I. wish I could be Mexican some sometimes. um maybe next life you know. um what will keep you say you get in. office Bobby right like what keeps you. right a guy that is trying to do it his. way how do you get. um sabotaged how do guys get sabotaged. once they get into office like how do. people get con like their values and. their goals and stuff get commandeered. and stuff well a lot of people you know. that happens to them but um I you know.

I've been fighting corporations for 40. years yeah and I've been suing these. agencies so probably 20 I've sued almost. every one of these agencies dot yeah. USDA Department of Agriculture EPA NIH. FDA to her yeah so I you know I feel. like I know better than anybody else. about how to unravel the corporate. capture and you know I'm not interested. in anything they got nothing they can. offer me yeah you know the only thing.

I'm concerned with is good government. and. making sure that our kids you know love. America the way that I love and have. hope for their future and that's you. know they're I mean literally I can't. think of anything. than anybody could give me to buy me off. there's nothing I want you know I have. everything that I want and I just. um you know I want to I want to do the. right thing and I you know I think. there's other people I think Tulsi is. the same way I don't think she has any.

personal ambition. um I think she just you know she loves. our country and um I think there's other. politicians out there too who can't be. bought but most of them can. do you stay with them and in fact the. entire political process has been bought. of running to office is a training. school for teaching you how to get. bought yeah you know so. it's what it seems like it's like where. the Warriors who want to die.

like for something that means something. yeah you know I I'm with you I don't. know I mean I guess I don't know we all. get it's all it's it's hard it's we live. in a place where that's what we've built. it's part of that you that things can be. compromised uh the last question I have. is um where do um. if you how do you know if you are going. to stay running with the Democratic. party if you have to make another Choice. well I have to make that choice by. October 15th okay. so I'm just gonna see what they do if.

they open up the process they'll all. stay in and then you know and then I. have to see what I have to see if they. don't close it then I don't know exactly. what I'll do. I'm proud of you man I'm just excited to. know you've always been uh you've always. just been a nice guy man you've always. been. um someone I can rely on and so I just. appreciate uh you just being willing to. come back on and spend time with us and. help us learn about. um the election process and stuff I. think even if listening you helps us you. know a lot of people like me just learn.

who aren't as up to you know skew on. politics and. um yeah man certainly uh happy to get to. spend time with you and congratulations. man I'm proud of you yo thanks for. having me back yeah. it's always a pleasure being with you. yeah thanks Bobby I'll talk to you soon. [Music]. Cornerstone.

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