Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #370
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much for supporting my career. I'm. excited to get over there and bring the. new tour to you. Let's go. Today's guest. is returning to the show. Uh he is an. attorney, an environmentalist. Uh his new book, The Real Anthony. Fouchy, is an Amazon, New York Times, and USA Today uh number one bestseller. Uh he's my friend. and I'm happy to. spend time with him always. Uh, Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr. [Music].
myself. on me. I'll sit and tell you my stories. Shine. on me. and I will find a song. just. [Applause].
Yeah. Thanks for coming in, man. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. again. Yeah, it's really good to see you. Uh. the book, man, I've I've read as much as. I can and listened to as much as I can. so far, just because it's a lot of. information, you know, especially um. information probably isn't probably my. top strong suit, but I think it's. getting better. But um what was like the. research process like for putting. together a book like this?
Um, a lot of it was just like reading my. emails because I have a list serve. with uh almost 300 doctors and PhDs and. PhD scientists on it. And so a lot of. the. um. a lot of the kind of the current science. if there's a new study that comes out in. Lancer Jamma or any of the 4,000.
journals that are out there I see it. almost immediately. Okay. And then I see it discussed. um by people who are highly critical and. know how to read science critically. So, I can see them arguing with each. other and criticizing the study and. finding its weaknesses and all that kind. of stuff and it allows me to kind of. make better evaluations of it. But, you. know, I've known Fouchy for a long time.
Okay. And I um and I also have a. peculiar insight. into the phenomena of agency capture. And that is the dynamic by which. environmental agencies and public health. agencies. become sock puppets of the industries. they're supposed to regulate. And it. happens with every agency. So I. everything. It happens with all of them, whether it's the SEC or the FDA or, you.
know, yeah, any of the threeletter agencies. Ultimately, over time, the industry figures out how. to infiltrate them, how to control the. senators and the congressmen that write. their budgets, how to get control of. that agency because it's so important. for their profit ambitions, right? And so I probably brought over. 500 lawsuits as an environmental lawyer,
mainly against polluters who are. discharging into the environment, into. the air, water, whatever. But probably. during the 38 years that I was doing. that, probably 20% of my lawsuits were. against the EPA or the state. environmental agencies for. issuing these kind of sweetheart illegal. permits. because they get compromised also. You're saying. because they get compromised. So I was. used to that dynamic, right?
Hard to navigate. Yeah. of seeing the agency that's. supposed to be my friend but is actually. my enemy, you know, on these. environmental issues. Oh, I was accustomed to that. But that. dynamic is particularly acute. It's. really on steroids in the public health. agencies because there are these. unprecedented entanglements, financial. entanglements. For example, FDA gets 45% of its annual budget from. pharmaceutical companies. Oh, they're.
really, you know, there's really no, it's kind of a seamless subsidiary of. the industry and it's really it's agency. capture on steroids. So, the FDA is funded mostly by. pharmaceutical companies. About half of their money comes from. pharmaceutical companies. And that's. because. we passed a law in the um in the '9s. that allow actually in the in the early.
2000s that allows it's called fasttrack. approval. So the drug companies were. complaining that you know these drugs. take 10 years to get approved. and a lot of the particularly the. Republicans on Capitol Hill who want the. agencies to be more industry friendly. They said there ought to be a process. where the where the industry can come in. and pay to get a very very quick. approval. And so now. that seems dirty business.
It is dirty business. It's there's a. kind of a rational reason for it is the. agency which said we simply don't have. enough personnel to quickly process. these applications. So, Congress said, "Okay, well, we're. going to get the industry to give you. the money to eye of the people to. process it." But really, what happens is. the agency is now being paid to do its. job by the industry and they become. partners and they're no longer a.
regulatory agency. They're really, you. know, their their regulatory mission. gets subsumed by these commercial and. mercantile, you know, forces. Yeah. business. Big business. Yeah, that's big business. And like you're. saying, it happens in every aspect. Yeah. And you know, once advertising and everything comes. into anything, it gets uh it gets a. little bit polluted. Yeah. And with the COVID, you know, crisis, um it's it from the beginning, it really.
the the the response to the public. health agencies. was not a public health response. It was. a Merkantile response. It was how do we. get money to these vaccine companies? It. wasn't how do we save lives and. particularly with our country and that's. why you know our country we have the. worst track records we have the highest. with what. well we have 4.2% 2% of the world's. population, but we had 20% of the COVID.
deaths. And that's all on Anthony. Fouchy, right? The the mismanagement. that took place. He basically got rid of. early treatment. So 80% of the people. who went to hospital should never have. gone to a hospital. Yeah. It felt like that. This is a. regular person. It felt like something. strange here that all these people are. just hooked up to this thing. They're. being hooked up to machines. Um. if you went to let's say if you went to. your doctor. Yeah. and you and you have maybe a. headache or you lost your sense of. taste. It's an early symptom that's not.
debilitating. and he gives you a PCR test and the PCR. test say you have COVID. What does that doctor now do? Here's. what he does under Tony Fouch's regimen. He tells you, "Go home till you're so. sick that your lips turn blue because. you can't breathe and go to the hospital. and we're going to put you on a. ventilator which is going to probably. kill you, right?". And we're going to give you Remmes. desave which is going to probably kill.
you. But did they know in the beginning that. the that they cuz it felt like um it. felt like they didn't know like no one. knew how severe it was. So at first. maybe they don't know what to do the. doctors, right? The thing is. at the very beginning you can say that. but by April they knew that. hydroxychloricquin worked. right and they actually knew much. earlier because in 2005 NIH. did studies on corona virus that showed.
hydroxychloricquin obliterated it and. then in 2013 2014 Fouchy funded studies. on MS and SARS which are corona viruses. that again showed that. hydroxychloricquin completely destroyed. it. Okay. So what was the difference this. time whenever they did trials? Well, they what they the problem was and. see the Chinese it the pandemic only. lasted for two months. Why? Because they. were doing early treatment. They were. also doing a lot of other stuff really. aggressively locking people up.
who had COVID. But they were treating. them they were treating them with. chloricquin which is hydroxychloricquin. plus they were treating with antibiotics. anti-inflammatories. um anticoagulants steroids monoconal. antibodies and vitamins all the things. that we know work that. we we weren't treating we weren't doing. a lot of treat. we were not doing any early treatment. and the reason for that is this. the Fouchi was focused on the vaccines.
was $98 billion ion dollar enterprise. Wow. And he had to get for that enterprise to. work, he had to get them emergency use. authorization because the otherwise the. the pandemic would be over by the time. they got their real, you know, permits, their licenses. You had to get them an. emergency use authorization. It is. illegal. under federal law to give emergency use. authorization for any vaccine.
if there is an existing drug that has. been approved for any purpose that is. demonstrated effective against the. target disease. Right. And hydroxal green you said had. been had been demonstrated effective. it. was. And now there's 285 peer-reviewed. studies that show that 80% of the people. who went to the hospital should not have. gone. If they had gotten. hydroxychloricquin or ivormectin early, they would never not have gone to the. hospital and they would not have died.
But if Tony Fouchy recognized that, the. entire vaccine enterprise would have. collapsed because he could not have. given that it would have been illegal. for him to give emergency use. authorization to any vaccine. He had to. kill those drugs up front. Who who. controls the emergency use. authorization? He really he does because he was in. charge of the COVID response and he's. the one who decided move this back. He's. the one who decided we're not going to.
do early treatment. We're going to wait. Make sure everybody has to go to the. hospital. and we're going to tell everybody, "Lock. yourself up. Put the whole country under. house arrest and um and wait there till. we get our vaccines ready. Don't do. anything else that helps you." And you. never knew he never did what what you. would want a America's doctor to do, which is to give a speech to the. American public and say,
"You need to take vitamin D. You need to. take zinc. You need to lose some weight, right? Because they it's the obese people who. are going to die. You need to get. outside and get exercise. You need to build your immune system.". When he was at 80% of the people who. died from COVID were vitamin D. deficient. Wow. We know that vitamin D completely. it it destroys COVID. There's a study. that came out three weeks ago that said. if people anybody who had 50.
nan um 50 what they call I use it nano. liters per deciliter. of of vitamin D in their blood did not. get CO and it said theoretic. hypothetically. you could have completely eliminated CO. by making sure people had had adequate. vitamin D. Yeah, we never heard that. sunshine. And people have known that for years. We.
know zinc works against common cold. It did seem interesting. There was no. like, okay, these are things you can do. to help prevent yourself from COVID. Everything was just. wait till you got the vaccine. Put a. mask on. That's a good point. Social distance. Lock yourself in the house. Well, even. also the weird thing of if people got it. that they sent them back home, like just. go home and be in a room at your house. That was weird to me. It's like, well, if this is so deadly, then why is my. friend Brendan you just told him to go.
home and be in a separate room than his. family who's in this but not to like be. in different buildings? Well, that but and that's the thing. Or. they're sending sick people to nursing. homes where they're going to kill. everybody in the nursing home. Yeah. It's the inverse of everything that you. that we knew that you're supposed to do. in the pandmic. It's the inverse of. everything the Chinese did. The Chinese, if you were sick, they grabbed you. They. brought you to a hospital and they gave. you early treatment. They would not let. you go home. What Americans were told to.
do, go home till you get so sick that. you're going to die. Oh yeah. Then go to the hospital. Well, every one. of those hospital visits was a super. spreader event because that person now. is infecting they're they're putting. maximum viral loads out into the. environment. They're infecting their. whole family. They're they're infecting. the Uber driver, the Door Dash. They're. infecting the people in the hospital, the people in the ambulance, and. dry cleaner. It's not what it's not what you would. want to do if you wanted to stop the.
pandemic, right? So then my question this there. would be like um do you feel like but. did Fouchy know this? Did you do you so. like with the book are you saying that. they knew this in advance. like they knew that hydroxychloroquin. would help? So they the book kind of. alleges that they shut down a lot of. like the I think it's I don't know if. it's over the counter or undercounter. hydroxychloroquin like there's places. where. it was it was allowed over the counter. Canada, France, many other countries,
they hydroxychloricquin is available or. was available over the counter. And at. the beginning of January, as soon as. they heard corona virus was circulating, they they those countries reclassified. it as a poison that you can only get it. by prescription. No, but did Fouchy have anything to do. with that? Look, the countries that. didn't do that, the African countries where. hydroxychloricquin is taken every. Sunday. It's called Sunday Sunday in. Africa because everybody takes it on.
Sundays for for malaria prevention. And those countries. those countries the death rate per. million population was two, one, two, three, four, five. In our country 2,200. per million population died from COVID. in a in Tanzania less than one per 2200. So we had 2,200. times the rate of death as the. Tanzanians had. We had a thousand times. the rate of death as the Chinese did.
You look at the African countries and. nobody's dying because and one of the. reasons for that is probably that. they're all on ivormectin and. hydroxychloricquin. Do you think they could be under. reportporting over there too because. there's less like information? Yes, that could be happening. But we're. also over reporting here. Yeah. And but everybody agrees that those. countries have done better than us. We. don't, you know, you make a good point. We don't know the there's been such.
sloppy haphazard reporting that we. really don't know what happened in our. country. I mean even CDC says. that only 6% of the Americans who died. from COVID had only COVID that the. average number of coorbidities in the. other people who died and 94% was uh 3.8. coorbidities potentially fatal. coorbidities. So we don't know whether. they died with COVID or whether they.
died of COVID and we'll never know that. Do you do do you believe that they knew. before. like did they know like that the virus. was coming or did was this a s like a. surprise thing that happened and then. they I say they but like the. you know I guess who am I even trying to. say like because I know the book kind of. the book talks about how like big pharma. basically pharmaceutical companies um. and like.
like fancy rich people basically I guess. or powerful people kind of like. cannibalized the hydroxychloricquin. thing. I don't know if cannibalized is. the word but like tried to sink it like. there was a test that they did like. European test studies or something where. they used too much. um yeah to show the trials that it. didn't work. Yes. So what happened. like how' they get us to believe that. hydroxychloricquin didn't work? They. what they did was Bill Gates funded. these three studies. Uh the solidarity.
study which each groups of studies with. thousands of people. solidarity study, recovery study and. remap study and in those studies they. studied hydroxychloricquin supposedly. but what they really did. hydroxychloricquin only works if you. give it to people in the first 10 days. after infections or first symptoms. Okay? If you could give it to them once. in their hospital, the disease has. changed at that point and it and it's. not very effective.
shifter. So they only gave it to people who were. hospitalized in order to discredit it. And then they gave people three or four. or five times the normal dose. So they. were giving them lethal doses and they. were killing people. And in fact, the researchers that did the studies in. Brazil killed I think 29 out of 41. people who are in the study. They're. elderly people. Oh, they currently they're currently.
being prosecuted for homicide. really. by the Brazilian prosecutors. But that's. how they were able to persuade the world. that hydroxychloricquin is dangerous. They were giving them doses of. hydroxychloricquin that they knew were. going to kill people. So, but then well, wouldn't they be brought up on charges? Wouldn't they be like um. in Brazil? They are being brought up on. charges. So, just the just just the testing. facility, but not it wouldn't go up to.
Gates. In fact, it wouldn't go up higher. than that. Well, if you you know, if you. read in my book, there's an interview. with one of the researchers who was. being funded by Gates. and he's talking to a very famous. scientist called Tess Lori and this in. the first chapter of the book. She's a. researcher for the WHO. She's a contract. scientist who does clinical trials for. the WHO. And she was doing a meta review. which is a review of all the literature.
on hydroxychloricquin and ivormectin. And she was talking to a scientist who. was clearly on the take. and she was saying to him we are looking. at the same studies and you know this. drug works so why are you not telling. the truth about it? And he's saying I'm. being pressured not to. Three days. before he'd issued his study, Gates. donated $40 million to his university.
and the and it was Gates U organization. that was funding that study and clearly. Gates. had a strong interest in killing. Ivormect hydroxychloricquin. because Gates has invested in all these. you know Gates had invested billions and. billions of dollars in these vaccines. hydroxychloricquin and Ivormectton. worked, his enterprise would have been. torpedo, been spoiled. Yeah. Because the the HQL.
or whatever. Is that HQL? Is that what. they call it? HCQ. Hydroxychloricquin. Yeah. Hydroxychloricquin. It's like 10 bucks a dose or something, right? It's not super expensive put. together. 30 cents a dose. Oh, damn. They cheap. It's 30 cents a pill. I got screwed then. I freaking paid. Yeah, the batch I bought is a little. spicier than that. But um but so but so. so. but why would why would they do it? It. was just to they. and the rem desir. $3,000 dose.
and then of course the vaccines which. don't work you know are making even more. than that. I mean not more per dose but. they're making you know huge amounts of. money. Well, let's stick in the space. right now where it's like uh so the so. they they tried to create articles and. stuff that just and trials that. dissuaded people from using. hydroxychloricquin. There's a lot of. that about that in the book. Yeah. Um and the information. because I would see stuff like you would.
see stuff come up sometimes on social. media like this and you know, oh what if. this works you know or people are having. effect effectiveness with this and it. would always be shut down, right? It. would be like um either just lambasted. by just the the masses uh or it would be. like um uh scrapped from platforms like. scrubbed out of platforms, right? Like. you saw this sometimes with information. um how do they h how would the people. who are creating this this plan.
basically. uh to get the this vaccine through? How. would they also be able to get people to. then halt any information that's coming. out that's contradictory because there's. just so many people that can put out. information? You know, Yeah. And you know what I would say is. we ought to have free speech. is that you know if there if somebody's. telling lie on the social media. if somebody's um saying something that.
is not true that the remedy for that is. not shutting them down. Right. The. remedy that is more speech is being able. to show people totally different. It's. is you know let ideas triumph in the. marketplace. Yeah. and not somebody be in charge of. of shutting them down. But very early on. in the pandemic, the media and the. social the media is funded by pharma and. they have been doing censorship on. pharmaceutical issues for decades. But.
the social media really for the first. time started acting as sensors and you. know many of these companies are deeply. tied in with the pharmaceutical. industry. Wow. Google has three vaccine companies. Um. Google makes one of those companies. It owns three vaccine companies. Well, Google's uh parent company is. called Verily or Alphabet and that. companies. So, it it Google has sister. companies.
Yeah. That are making vaccines. They make flu. vaccines. They make. Women are always up to something. Yeah. Um Zuckerberg has about a billion. dollars invested in vaccines of you know. from his private his foundation. So a lot of the big money that are tied. into these uh that are tied into um tech. companies. They also own pharmaceutical. companies. and they're ti they have deals with. pharmaceutical companies like Google has. a 70 I think a 76 um million dollar deal.
with Glacos Smith Klein and they and you. know they the um they they have all. kinds of deals with the pharmaceutical. company to mine information health. information from their databases and so. they're really kind of part of the. pharmaceutical industry. right and why Is it that that industry. has gotten so how did we let this. industry the pharmaceutical business get. so big? I mean I see it all the time.
like in recovery places and stuff like. that. People just I see some people that. I feel like are alcoholics and I see. some people that are victims of just. insane medications. It's like you see. people whose lives have just been. wrecked by pills that they couldn't. combat if they had a million weapons. You know the power of some of the. oxycodons and all of that stuff. Um, how. did we let these pharmaceutical. companies start to na like control the. way um how do we let them like bypass. whatever.
government we had looking out for us or. something and and. how do we let this happen? Does that. make sense? One of the issues. Yeah. Okay. Good. One of the issues is pharmaceutical. advertising. What they call direct to. consumer advertising. So there's only. two countries in the world that allow. pharmaceutical companies to advertise to. the consumers. Other companies say, "No, you can't do advertising. If you want a. drug, go to your doctor and he will tell. you." In our country in 1997, we changed.
the rule so that allow pharmaceutical. companies to advertise on TV. Oh. So, in. 2017, I went to the um to the uh. president of Fox News, who was a guy. called Roger Als. Oh, yeah. I remember him. A very famous guy. And he's dead, huh? He Yeah, he died. But when I was 19. years old, I spent three months with him in a tent.
in East Africa. And I had this weird relationship. because he was like, for me, you know, politically he was like Darth Vader. We had a personal friendship and we both. enjoyed each other and he was very very. kind to me. You know, I was doing. environmental stuff and Fox News doesn't. like the environment too much, but he. would make sure that his that the shows. on Fox News would always let me on to at. least talk about my side of the story.
Mhm. And. I went to him, I think around 2018, I. went to him with a movie that we had. just made about mercury and vaccines. And he had a child who had been that he. suspected was vaccine injured. He was very sympathetic to this movie. and he saw it, he watched it, he. believed it, but he said, "I cannot let. you go onto my network to talk about. it." and he said, "If any of my.
hosts allowed you onto their show, I. would have to fire them. And if I didn't, I would hurry hear from. Rupert, meaning Rupert Murdoch, within. 10 minutes." And he said to me, "During. non-election years, we get Fox News for its evening news, that's up to 70% of its revenues from. from pharmaceutical companies. Oh, and. if you look and he said. that's the banker.
Typically there's 22 ads on a on an. evening news show and typically about 17. of those are pharmaceutical ads. So. those companies are not just. using that as a platform to promote. their products. They are dictating. content on that news show. And that's. why, you know, Anderson Cooper makes $12. million a year, but $10 million of that. is coming from Fizer typically.
Yeah. So, and he knows who he's working for. And that's why, you know, he's always. promoting flu shots and vaccines and. medications and all this and telling. you, you need to lock down. You need to. do what the pharma tells you to do. And. meanwhile, they locked us all down. They. put us, you know, they induced this. This is condition called Stockholm. syndrome where Americans are living in. terror. They become grateful to their. captors and they believe that the only. way to return to normal and to you know.
to survive is to is total compliance to. the you know to their captors and that's. what we're kind of dealing with now in. our country. Why aren't there more. people who try to stay or who are trying. to speak out against this? I what's. what's interesting so much about about. the book so far that I've read is um. just how many it resonates with like. these really like fears and kind of. questions I've had about this whole. thing like a lot of it hasn't passed. like some of the smell test for me.
ironically just I've just never felt. comfortable with some of the ways some. of this has been handled like I've. witnessed friends like I've had six. friends that overdosed in the past two. years and are dead. well you and I both know a lot of people. and. yeah and just and are dead like and you. know like they didn't die of co they. because they couldn't get into rec there. no recovery rooms, there's no meetings, there's no connection of humanity, you. know, it's like people they don't know. that somebody cares about them because. they're not seeing other humans every. day. They're locked away um because of. the mass and stuff. It just seems like.
how would there not be more of a just re. revolt coming out of more people uh to. question this? It feels like. because because fear. disables the part of your brain that. does critical thinking. and if you can you know this is a a m. this is at least it is one of the. alchemies of tyranny if you if you are. if you want a totalitarian regime and.
you know Garing said this at um at. Nerburgg he said it's an easy thing for. any government to manipulate its people. You just have to get them scared. Tell. them there's an enemy. And what better. enemy than a germ that can get into. everybody's house and kill them. And. that you're the only one that compliance. if only doing what you're told. is going to allow you know you to. survive. And one of the, you know, one. of the things that I don't know if. you've seen this, but.
in December, in October of 2019, there was there was a pandemic. simulation called event 2011. And I. write about it in the last chapter of. the book. And event 2011 was a group of. people who simulated a corona virus. pandemic. Now remember this is in. October of 2019 in New York City. the. Pierre Hotel. and there are a lot of big shots there. The And we now know according to the.
National Security Agency that CO 19. began circulating on September 12th. Damn. Oh, in Wuhan. That's a rough month for us across the. board historically then. Well, September. 12th, um, what happened is the the NSA. the satellite and there was chatter all. over the internet coming out of Wuhan. of people talking about symptoms that. were very much and also cures from those.
symptoms. The hospital parking lot, the. aerial photographs show that it it was. full. There were three people in the lab. who ended up going to the hospital with. COVID symptoms. the the Chinese. government that night at midnight. went into the lab. They. removed 22,000 samples of corona virus. that were public in the lab and they've. never been seen again. They also took. all of the public facing.
um web pages and they removed. documents and papers about gain of. function studies. And we know this is a fact. This is a. fact. Uh this is what the National. Security Agency is saying that they. believe that September 12th was the day. that it actually began circulating. Okay. A month later. you have in New York City these Bill. Gates hosting a Corona virus pandemic. simulation.
at that his co-host is Averil Haynes the. deputy director of the CIA. What is the CIA doing at a public health. forum? They don't do public health. They. do coup d'eta. But now April Haynes is. the top spy in America. She is the and. she is the one. who hid the torture me the torture tapes. from Abu Grae, you know, during that CIA.
scandal. So that she now is the head of. the National Security Agency, top spy in. the country. She's also in charge of the. Corona virus response. at the simulation. You have Averil. Haynes. You have people from all the. social media companies. You have people. from the pharmaceutical companies, mainly Johnson and Johnson, the biggest. one they do. And you have another guy, peculiar guy, George Go, who's the head. of the Chinese CDC.
Oh man, he sounds sneaky. Anybody? So, George Gale must have. known, yeah, that this was circulating at that point. By the way, any of your listeners who. does not believe what I'm saying can go. and look up event 2011. It's still on. YouTube. And this was before the. It was after it started circulating, but. none of us knew about it till January. This was before the this is after the. NSA had said that this had occurred. The NSA now says looking back when it.
occurs and at that time they didn't. know. So then. the world did not know until around. January 3rd. So then there was a big get together of. some. So then they're all together planning. what are here's how we're going to. handle a corona virus pandemic if it. happens. Was Fouchy there or no? Fouchi was not there but there were. people from his agency there. So and the. interesting thing is there was no. discussion of public health. They weren't saying how are we going to. get repurposed medications? How are we.
going to link. 11 million doctors, frontline physicians. around the world on a communication grid. so that we can quickly figure out what's. working, you know, what's working in. Bangladesh, what's working in Argentina, what are the best protocols, what are. the best repurposed medications that. seem effective against, right? Like what's already working. against this type of thing that we could. ask people to get prepared and get on. now to help themselves. Well, no, but. even when it starts, if a corona virus. pandemic starts, you want to be able to.
talk to all the doctors who are treating. it around the world and find out because. there may be a guy in Argentina, which. there was Dr. Carllo, who's got good intel, who f who was giving ivormectin to. people. He gave it to 700 frontline. healthare workers and he gave a placebo. to 458. And of the 700 who got it, not one of. them got COVID. Of the 400 who didn't. got it, 53% got COVID. So he knew that. very early on,
but that wasn't being communicated. And. if you were Fouchy and really wanted to. do a public health response, you'd be. connecting all these doctors and mining. what is the best intelligence, what's. the best way to treat people, how do we. avoid hospitalizations, how do we avoid. deaths. And you're saying they were just. connecting more of the business side of. it. They weren't the only thing they. were doing was they were saying how do. we use a pandemic. to clamp down totalitarian controls to.
essentially. execute a coup d'eta against democracy? How do we get rid of the bill of rights? Oh, you think that they brought that up in. this meeting? Listen, I'm not saying nobody could. should believe me on anything. They. should go and do the research. themselves. And you go to event 2011 and. here's what you'll see. The fourth simulation that day, they. took breaks. There was a total of four. Fourth one is the longest one. That. whole simulation is how do you get the.
social media companies to censor descent. and how specifically. do you get them to not talk about the. fact that this was a lab generated. virus? They the George Go says that and. this is what they're talking about for. two hours. This is in October. What was their fear that if people. thought it was a lab generated vi virus. that then they would start pointing. fingers blaming not only the Chinese but. blaming public health officials who were.
all funding, you know, those studies in. Wuhan. Oh, I see. It was not just Fouchi who was funding. the gain of function studies. It was the. um USAD which is a CIA conduit. It was. DRA, the defense threat uh reaction. reduction agency and it was the Pentagon. through DARPA and BART. So they were. giving hundreds of millions of dollars. to develop corona virus superbugs that. could cause pandemics and they were.
doing it with the Chinese. So you're saying that you you believe. that the whole thing was even planned. ahead that. No, I I'm not saying it was planned. ahead. I'm saying and this is not. controversial. We know this was. happening. It's well documented. They. were publishing about it. Okay. So you publishing they were doing. this research there. They were doing research to develop. bioweapons, right? And they were saying we're doing the. research because the same research that. we need to do to develop bioweapons. We. can also develop vaccines. It was. illegal for them to develop bioweapons.
I see. Because it's. so they were saying we're doing. bioweapons research. But it's clear they. were doing. it's weird to create a murder to test a. prison. That's a weird thing. It's like. why would you, you know, train murderers. just to test out a prison facility you. built? But is it the same people paying. to to do the trials that were that own. the vaccine? Well, the thing is Tony. there was an anthrax attack. Oh, damn. on our country in 2001 after 911.
I remember. So, and in 1972 or 69, we. signed a treaty that said you can't. develop bioweapons anymore. And so, nobody touched them. The CIA was. secretly doing it, but the Pentagon was. not in 2001 after the anthrax attacks. And the anthrax attacks. were blamed on Sadd Hussein and they. were used as a justification to. Oh, he's a fat Nazi. That guy's a fat.
They they You know what I'm saying? They. put anything. You. later turned out the FBI's investigation. showed that the anthrax had not come. from Saddam Hussein. It had come from. one of three US army laboratories. Who is somebody in the military had. something to do in the US military with. those anthrax attacks. And what happened. is after the anthrax attacks, they use that as an excuse to start. developing bioweapons again. Ah,
the Pentagon did not want to do it. within the Pentagon because they said. because there was a loophole in the. treaty that said you can't develop. bioweapons but you can do dual use. research. Dual use means. research that is bioweapons research but. it also is useful for developing. vaccines. Okay. So they began funneling $1.6 6 billion. dollars a year to Tony Fouchy to do. weapons research because he would be the.
Pentagon didn't want to do it in the. Pentagon because they said nobody's. going to believe that we're doing. vaccine research. I see. It would just be too erroneous. Yeah. So they farmed it out to Fouchy. and they gave him a 68% raise. And where was he at? The WHO at that. time? No, he was at NIDA. Did he ever work for the WHO? No. Oh, yeah. He worked for 50 years at NIH. But that year his salary went up 68%. from the Pentagon. and today he's the highest paid person. in the federal. government. That's insane to me.
Yeah. But his 70% of his budget is for. doing this bioweapons research. That's. why he had to keep doing it. Even when. Obama ordered him to stop in 2014. Wow. That's when he moved it offshore to. Wuhan. And they all moved to Wuhan because. So Obama tried to shut him down. What. happened is in 2014, four of his bugs. escaped or three of his bugs escaped. from different labs and 300 scientists. petitioned Obama and said, "You got to.
shut down Fouchy because he's doing this. research. He's going to release a bug. that is going to cause a global. pandemic.". Obama ordered him to stop. He illegally continued to do the worst. of these studies at the University of. North Carolina with a scientist called. Ralph Barrick. And then but he began. funneling huge amounts of money, laundering it through this, you know, this. sketchy. cotton man called Peter Dezac who's a.
zoologologist who was working for the. CIA. And he began and the CIA and DARPA began. funding all of this money, hund00. million dollars through de hack to. distribute to Chinese military. scientists at the Wuhan lab. Okay. To do the studies there. to do the studies. And the purpose of. doing the studies is. they say it's for vaccines, but it was. really the Chinese were really open say. they said we're doing bioweapons. research. They didn't care. Yeah. Chinese or whatever. The Americans.
were all saying this is vaccine. research, but the Chinese were saying. this is weapons research. They'll flick a cigarette right into a. damn baby. One of the really telling studies at. Fouchi funded at the University of North. Carolina. was a study that. called a seam to develop what they. called a seamless legation process. which was a way of hiding the human. tampering. So what they were doing is. they were taking corona viruses that.
infected bats. Mhm. They were removing the spike po protein. that could only infect bats and they. were building inserting a spike protein. that was designed to infect humans. They. they you tested this they they had. humanized mice with human lungs. So they had bred mice with human lungs. and they were testing these microbes on. those mice and if the mice got sick they. knew humans would get sick because they. had an age, right? They had a human.
lungs. and how do you even get a human lung in. a mouse? With a little tiny tweezers. they they bred them. But so they're over. there doing so. So so what what Fouchi. funded. not only was he funding them to switch. up the spike protein that only infected. bats and switch it for ones that would. only infect humans, but then he was developing process for. hiding the evidence of human tampering.
That's the last thing that you would. want to do if you cared about public. health, right? which allows, you know, malevolent people to conceal the fact. that this virus was human-made. Wow. And so it had nothing to do with. vaccines. It was about and he funded it. Ralph Barrick who he gave he gave 57. grants to this one scientist. He called it Barrett calls it his noium. process. It's a it's a process where you.
can alter it and then nobody can see it. He then taught that process to the. Chinese military scientist Xi Shingley. She was the bat lady. Damn. And he taught her how to do it. And then. for two years the Chinese went dark. and then we had COVID 19. So do you think that that they that it. was created on purpose then and then it. got out? Like what was the do you think.
that it was created on purpose and then. it because they knew that they would be. able to because I don't know if it's. Fouchy but they knew that they would be. able to then use the. Well, here's the thing in my book. I. don't do any of that kind of. speculation, right? What I show is the facts and then people. I think if you read the facts, you can. make up your own mind about. there's a lot of facts in there. I mean, look, and there's so many cited sources. I honestly felt like you were like a.
guy. Like we were playing the game Clue. and you're like in the room. You're like. you're like I'm in the library with the. candlestick, you know? It's exactly kind. of what it really felt like. The energy. coming out of it. There's so much. information. Tell you one of the revelations in the. book. Okay. Fouchi gave $2.2 million billion. dollars to this little Cambridge company. called Merna to and Gates did Gates was. pouring money into him to develop an. mRNA vaccine. The head of that company. is a guy, a French guy called Steven.
Banzel. The company that built the Wuhan lab was. a French company called Bomiro. Part of their contract was to develop. what they call a negative air system. that keeps air flow from flowing. outward. It's a very sophisticated and. you need it in these BSL 4 labs. These. biocurity four labs are the most uh. protected lab protective labs in the. world secure labs in the world and it's.
where they you need those labs to do. these studies. you need a negative airflow system. because some of these bugs are going to. get into the air and they could go out. to keep it indoors. So they so he was contracted be the. French company. was contracted to build the negative. airflow system but they didn't do it. The head of that company was Steven. Bansel. He then goes without building that.
system. So he has a good idea. that these bugs are going to escape. Damn, that's a dark arc. He then goes and he becomes the head of. uh of. Mona. and which Fouchi is funding. And in. March of 2019, so this is five months. before the, you know, the escape, he. goes back, he's been denied a patent for. his mRNA vaccine, he goes back and. reapplies to the US patent office for.
the patent. And he in the patent. application he says there is an urgency. that you give this patent to me and. process this immediately. because of the chance of an accidental. or deliberate release of a laboratory. generated virus. that this vaccine is the only thing that. will cure it. Wouldn't the researcher know that he has. the ability to. Well, we you know we have his patent. application and it says that in there.
Wow. Damn. Oh man, it's a lot to digest. I'm very impressed that you made an. effort at least to read it. Yeah, I think I'm I'm maybe I think I'm. maybe almost I could possibly be halfway. through. Um there's parts where you talk. about uh and this was something that I. heard spoken about a lot that there were. uh that doctors or facilities got more. money if there was a COVID death than if. it was a regular death. Yeah. Is that true or not?
Yes. Okay. And you know the the hospital systems. were heavily incentivized to classify. um every death they could as a COVID. death. So even people who came in with. car accidents we know this from a lot of. whistleblowers. were if they could get a positive PCR. test they were given rem desave. were. put often times on intubation because. they got $39,000. for doing those procedures on it and if.
it was a COVID death and they coded it. COVID, even if the person didn't die of. COVID, he just had CO in his blood, they. got a lot more money. So, that was is. one of the things that really. confuses the data that we have. And you. know, we don't have any good data and. that's one of the problems. Let me let me just talk just talk for a. second about the Fiser study because. everybody is taking the Fiser vaccine. It's the only one that has approval. Okay. The Fiser vaccine study, the trial from.
the beginning, we knew it was going to. be rushed. Tony Fouchi promised us it's. going to be completely transparent and. we're going to get fouryear studies. So, we're going to know you need long. studies when you study medication. Anything, dude. It takes four years to. get to college. You got to be four years. to be a ba, you know, a banker. Yeah. I mean, because there's a lot of. injuries that come from medications, but. particularly from vaccines. Yeah. That have long diagnostic horizons or.
they have no long incubation period. So, you won't see them for in six months. You they're cancers, autoimmune. diseases, seizures, neurodedevelopmental. diseases. You will not see for in a. six-month period. and also. what they call antibbody dependent. enhancement which corona virus are. notorious about the if you get a vaccine. in all the previous experiments with. corona virus vaccines the people who got. the vaccine and the animals who got. vaccine actually got sicker.
when the corona virus came back around. when they were exposed to wild corona. virus and you won't know that until you. have a long-term study. what did he. Six months into this study, he declared. it over. Who did Fouchy? Yeah. He unblinded it, which means he. told all the people in the placebo. group, you're in the placebo group. Oh, yeah. It's like that. And he gave the vaccine to everybody in. the placebo group. So, he erased the. placebo group, which means we have no.
way ever to have long-term. ideas about. Oh, based on that study, there's no way. to know long-term. No, because it it was. unblinded and everybody in the placebo. group was given the vaccine. That's. true. Yes. Then they took. That's crazy. Let me let me tell you the rest of this. Then they took the data from that six. months. This sounds like clown past. shooting into people, man. I mean, it's. just that sounds crazy. Then they took the data for that six. months and they brought it to FDA and.
FDA gave them a license. What did that data show? Here's what it. show. There's one graph that's called a. S4. You can see it. It's in my book in. the first chapter. And this this graph. is the most critical graph because it is. the graph for all cause mortality. In. other words, and you look at the vaccine group and. you look at the placebo group. where who which of those groups had more. people alive at the end of the study and.
more people dead at the end of the. study. And here's what it says. There. were roughly 22,000 people in the. vaccine group, 22,000 people in the placebo group. At the end of six months, this is what. their own data show. One person in the vaccine group of those. 22,000 died from COVID. In the placebo group, two people died. from COVID. that allowed Fizer to tell FDA and the. American public the vaccine is 100%.
effective because two. is 100% of one. Yeah. So most Americans when they hear the. vaccine is 100% effective. Yeah. They think if I get the vaccine I'm 100%. not going to die of COVID. Well, why wouldn't more information come. out like other people be screaming that. this seems like kind of a ridiculous. thing? Why does it seem like. Because the press is all censored. I. mean, what's when you air this show,
you're going to get killed. Yeah, we're scared. Be off the air. I. don't We could be. You might have to. take it down. But let me just finish. what happens. So So what it really mean? Most Americans think I I 100% won't die. this if I get the vaccine. But that's. not what it means. What it means is they. have to give 22,000 vaccines. to save one life from COVID. Now, if you're going to give those. 22,000 vaccines, you better make sure that the vaccine is.
not going to kill even one person. because if it does, right, it's now. cancelled the entire benefits. Well, here's what their data show. And again, this is table S4. I urge people to go to it. In the vaccine group, 20 people died of. the 22,000 over six months. In the. placebo group, only 14 people died. So. what that suggests is that if you take. the vaccine, you're 48% more likely to die over the.
next six months than if you don't. How. are they dying? Mainly heart attacks. So. in the vaccine group, five people died. of heart attacks. In the placebo group, only one. What that means if you get the. vaccine, you have a 500% greater chance of. getting a heart attack than if you don't. based on that time period of that study. Yeah. And the study is probably a crap. study that doesn't really mean anything. because there were too few people in it.
Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA. vaccine, told me this week, he said, "That study means nothing. They need it. They can't do a study with 22,000. people. It sounds like a lot. They. needed 400,000. They're going to give. this to 350 million people. Yeah, they needed 400,000 people in the study. to make any real prediction. So, these. predictions probably aren't real, but. they're stuck with them because they're. the ones who said, "We're only going to. put 22,000 people in this study." And. what they show what their study shows.
is that for every life that they save. from COVID, they killed four people from. heart attacks. Wow. We got a question that came in. actually right here from a guy uh for. you, Bobby. That's right. Is this live? This is not live. None of this is live and this question. isn't live. This is. because I want to make sure you have an. option of not playing this podcast. video. No, I don't. I think we're okay. Yeah. I mean, we you know, I'm generally. curious and I think.
I'm worried about your career. That's. why. Well, the good I feel like I own my. own career until like I don't need a. Hollywood career, you know, but it's. definitely I worry about like my career. of like I guess maybe like YouTube. canceling us or people saying that we. can't do this anymore, you know? That's. the scary part. Is this on YouTube? Yeah, this will be on YouTube. So, but our last one stayed up. Okay. Well, let's make a bet. I'll bet. you five bucks. Well, inflation's happening a lot. Let's.
make it 10. All right. We got a good question right here from. somebody that came in. Yeah. Hey Theo. Hey Mr. Kennedy. Um I'm here. with a question for y'all. Um. so I got the COVID vaccine. Uh I needed. to to in order to keep my job. I live in. the city of Philadelphia and uh is uh. they're pretty gung-ho about making sure. everybody's vaccinated. But anyway, I. got it and I ended up having uh.
myocarditis, like developing heart pain. and a serious reaction as a result of. it. Um, and I don't really know what to. do. I don't have good health insurance. or anything like that. I can't really uh. spend a lot of money to get to the. bottom of it. Um, and all we hear in the. news is like, oh, it's so rare for. people to have these effects from it, but like we don't hear much at all about. what to do if you are one of the people. that ended up having one of these uh.
side effects from the vaccine. So, I was. wondering if Mr. Kennedy here has any. advice on uh what to do if you do get. that uh that pumped up uh ticker and uh. how to help it how to help deflate that. Um, gang, baby. uh or I mean that. person, you know, I mean that guy could have also had a. freaking a strong carbonara sauce from a. cousin or something that freaking amped. his kicker up. But um but I think that's. myocarditis is a really serious disease.
I mean and I I mean really serious. 50%. of the people with who are diagnosed. with myocarditis. either die or require heart transplant. within five years. So a lot of these, you know, the the CDC is telling people, well, you know, these are mainly mild. case. There's no such thing as a mild. case. You, you know, what that means is. they discharge you from the hospital and. you go home and you have uh six months. of bed rest. And a lot the people who.
are most susceptible to it are athletes. Um there's a very very strong Hong Kong. study that came out a couple of weeks. ago that says that for young p people. one in every 2700 is getting. myocarditis. That is huge particularly. because. well we don't know if it's vaccine. related. No from the vaccine that are reporting. myocarditis from the vaccine. Kids don't. have heart attacks. Kids don't have. strokes. Yeah. You know there. myocarditis. These athletes you're.
watching every day, literally two a day. now, athletes are collapsing on playing. fields and it's from myocarditis and. it's from the vaccines and there's no. question about that and that's what this. study shows. One in 2,700 people are. getting myocarditis. of the for for kids. There are two studies out for, you know, they're now going to give this to. children. And the younger you are, the. more likely you are to get myocarditis. from the vaccine.
Jesus. What the Lancet study showed is that. they were not able to find a single. healthy child in America that died from. COVID. There's there are children who. died but there people very obese or a. lot of coorbidities. They couldn't find any healthy ch. children who died. The jury just. released a stud its database and very. very similar. They found the death rate in healthy. children was three per million.
Okay. So three per million and under five zero. literally zero. Not one kid found it who. is who died from COVID. If the death rate is three per million, one in every 2700 people are getting. myocarditis. That's different. That means you have 100 times greater. chance for every one person. that they're saving from COVID.
are 100 people getting myocarditis. What about this? Do couldn't it. but but you you're not an ant you're not. are you you're not anti you're an. antivaccination you're here. No I'm not. So the vaccination is does it help. people. or do we just not know the long term. what's going to happen? I don't think. anybody. First of all, the vaccine, what Tony Fouchy said the vaccine was. going to do and Bill Gates was that it. was going to prevent transmission and. prevent hospitalization.
and prevent you from getting the. disease. And it doesn't do any of those. It does not prevent transmission. A. vaccinated person according to the best. science we have now is and Tony Fouchy. has said this and I will if you need it, I'll send you the recording and you can. put it in here. Okay. Um he even says that you're equally. likely to transmit the disease if you. were vaccinated or unvaccinated. So. there's. Well, yeah. It feels hella confusing. I.
mean, people are still have to wear. masks. You don't have to wear masks. it's this, it's that, and people and there's no, you know, people originally were saying that. you're more likely to get a severe. disease, but when you look at the the. one database. that seems most reliable is the British, the UK databases. And what those. databases are showing is that the people. who get co who get the vaccine are more. likely to be hospitalized. That's what. their data is showing. Okay,
those data may be skewed in some way. They may not be um completely reliable, but it is the best database in the world. and it's showing it is not showing that. the vaccine will avoid hospitalization. or death. We're not seeing that. But why wouldn't like uh Fouchy and. Gates and some of these big pocketed. dogs have uh have a say so in that kind. of study coming out? Like why would. you mean of the NHS data? That's raw. data. That is data that that you know it. for many many years.
The British have been publishing their. mortality and morbidity data directly. from the hospital, directly from the. corners, directly from the health. agency. So anybody can look at that. And. when you look at that and you can you. can compare on that the hospitalized. people who were vaccinated to the. hospitalized people who are. unvaccinated. And what you will see. is that the that they in front you. you're actually more likely to end up in. a hospital un by that data.
Okay, if you got the vaccine than if you did. not, right? And that's still early in data. too. We still need a longer time. It's still early and we don't you know. and also. there may be the data could be the data. could be skewed and let me tell you how. so that people can understand. uh um you could argue is. that the people who were early. vaccinated. were less likely to get COVID early.
and when the vaccine wears off now. there's more of that subset who are. getting sick and getting hospitalized. than people who are unvaccinated. um by percentage. So so we don't know. the answer to that. I doubt that that's. really what's happening, but you know, we don't know. How did um have have there been doctors. that have come out and supported your. book as well, or is there like. I mean, there's a list of hundreds of. doctors. I know there's tons of data from doctors.
in there. Yeah. But if you look at the beginning. of the book, it's there are a couple of. pages of just very very tiny type of all. the doctors who are, you know, who are opposing the Tony. Fouchy narrative. Um, and do you feel. like ha has the book been uh have you. been supported by any mainstream media. outlets? Do you feel like it's growing. in some senses? Do you feel like. the book has been completely boycotted. by the media, but the sales have been amazing.
This we've been, you know, at the top of. the besteller list. I mean, the New York Times won't put us. number one even though. even if you were number one. Well, we. are number one because we know how many. For example, you know, I think in the. first week we sold 93,000 copies. Will. Smith uh sold 85,000. and he's the top. I'm number seven and I. sold more of my books than all the other. ones. But they still put me seven.
because I just think they don't, you. know, they do not want to give me the. publicity of being number one. The Wall. Street Journal put me number one. the. USA Today, which is the hardest one. because they combine all the books in. the world, including fiction and. non-fiction together. So that's the. hardest one to be number one and number. one there. Publishers weekly number one. Amazon number one, number two or number. three day after day after day and number. one for the weeks. Yeah. I mean, I've had a lot of people. since you were coming on who certainly.
reached out to me and uh applauded the. fact that we were just going to talk. about it. Um we've had another good. question that came in here. Let's get uh. let's get to one of these. What's up, Theo? This is Adam. Um hello, Mr. Kennedy. Uh congratulations. Your. book's number three on Amazon right now. I just checked it. Uh I had a question. In your book in the back, you had a list. of arbitrary decrees and I thought that. was very interesting. I was going to get. your opinion on uh New York's uh recent. decree from Delasio about vaccination.
across the whole city, even for private. businesses. Thanks. how we actually you know um well. it it I mean I've already made the case. that I if the vaccine is not preventing. transmission. what is the justification right. for mandating that somebody take it. you know I mean listen you sign the ner. I agree that's I' I've long that's my. big question why do people have it.
doesn't seem deadly enough for people to. have to. but even if it's deadly I mean it's my. choice Nobody can make me take a. medicine for my own good. Right? And you know there's a there's a. argument. if me getting the vaccine is going to. prevent other people from getting the. vaccine. There's no argument that the. state has the right to force me to take. the vaccine. But there's no that that. argument doesn't exist because if you. get the vaccine you're equally likely. transmit the disease. What and you know.
by the way. we signed the Nerburgg protocol. We a. lot of Americans died so that we could. sign the treaty at the end of the war. And the Nermberg protocol says we will. never again no country signature will. ever again. force individuals to take an. experimental product without their. informed consent. No form of co coercion is is is legal.
And the all of the vaccines that are. available in this country now are. experimental. They're all EUA. There's. not one vaccine that is now available in. the United States that's been approved. The Fiser vaccine, one version of it, the Kernady vaccine is approved, but. it's not available in the United States. Oh, Delasio is ordering people to. participate in a medical experiment. And. that, you know, is not something we do. in America.
Yeah. Why has it become that? How did we. get from the point where it it feels. like these days like the government is. more like uh Facebook and CNN and. Twitter? These are the judge and the. jury of everything as opposed to like um. you know human beings. And I mean, it's. still human beings, but as opposed to. like an actual government as opposed to. like um um it almost seems like it's a. the government's like a shell company. now for like um. for tech, you know, like I always say.
like tech is the new fossil fuel. That's. what I feel like a little bit. It's like. this it has such a power over it's like. how did we kind of let that happen? Was. it just money that did it? Yeah. I mean, am I crazy? No, I think that's right. And. you know what we've seen this year is. really pretty extraordinary to you. It's. the the it is the abolition of all of. our Bill of Rights. So they started out. with with by controlling those tech. companies, they were able to effectively.
get rid of freedom of speech and freedom. of expression. Yeah. Madison and Adams and Jefferson. said that we put freedom of speech into. the first amendment because all of the. other rights are dependent on it. If a. government. can control can stop criticism or. dissent, it has a license to commit any. kind of atrocity. So as soon as they got. rid of freedom of speech, they went. after the other half of the first.
amendment which is freedom of religion. and worship. It closed all the churches. in our country for a year with no public. hearing, no debate, no you know science. shown. They then went after property rights. They controlled they they shut down a. million businesses with no due process, no just compensation. Then they went. after jury trials. You cannot sue. The. the sixth and seventh amendment say. this. No American shall be denied the right of.
a trial of a jury of his before a jury. of his peers for any case or controversy. exceeding $25 in value. Well, that's all. it says. There's no pandemic exception, right? Today, jury trials are going in our. country for if a vaccine company or. pharmaceutical company injures you, you. cannot sue them. No matter how egregious. your. no matter how negligent they were, no. matter how reckless they are, you cannot. sue them. So if 20 million people die 15 years.
from now from the vaccine, there can't. be a class action suit. No. Wow. You can't you cannot sue them. There's. no discovery. There's no. We got to make a vaccine, bro. Yeah. So, uh, you need to make a vaccine, baby. We. need to fire up the stove. The vaccine will not give you immunity, but it gives the company that made it. immunity from liability. That's crazy. That's what's happening. And then, you know, now the the the. prohibitions against warrantless. searches and seizures are gone. And. they're, you know, they're doing you.
have to show your vaccine cards and, you. know, your private medical information. to people. There's track and trace. surveillance. Well, it's cost me my v it c it's. starting to cost me, and this is just my. feeling, and I am obviously a very. sensitive person, but it's costing me a. lot of what I feel like my whole. purposes of being human are. Um, and so. it starts to make me feel like there's. no real value in me being human. And so. I think if you are already predisposed. to ideas like that in your head and kind. of negative self-thought and.
nei. just. I might have misdone it, but I saying nih i l i. Yeah. Yeah. Neilism. I didn't know that was. it. But yeah, it's like if I'm already. predisposed, then that's where I see a. lot of my friends who are perishing. You. know, it's like uh because it's, you know, the the uh the the CDC says. that. one out of every four people under 20. contemplated suicide this year. Yeah. Suicide rates are off the chart. The.
drug overdose, the alcoholism, the child. child abuse is down. Why? Oh, because. child 90% of child abuse was reported by. the schools and the schools are closed. Those kids are now home. with their abusers. Beat them. and. not really. But yeah, it's just there's. no way to Yeah, there's no way to report. it. No. And you know, all of these other. metrics of of what you know of people's. ideas of community, their connections to.
their family, their connection to. community have been obliterated this. year. And no, there was no attention. lock down. Yeah. He didn't he didn't say. that the jail you know what there are. studies out there what happens when you. unemploy people and there is a famous. study from 1982. says and that when we had half the. population so double all these numbers. that every point in unemployment caused. 37,000 excess deaths heart attacks.
stress suicides etc. 3,300 excess imprisonments ments 4,000. excess. admissions to mental hospitals. That's. what unemployment does. And they just. went and gave us 20% unemployment. overnight. Yeah. I remember we had a rat, not a. rabbit, but we had like a m like a long. mouse when I was growing up and if we. took his wheel out of there literally. like a week later, you could see how. defunct he was, you know? Yeah. Just cuz he just had nothing to do.
Um. uh why But here's a question I have. So. if if if pharma was like being able to. manage all of this with power and money. and influence, right, you know, or manage at least like the. information that was getting out um and. suppressing other information because. they they advertised enough or were the. biggest supporter of different um. outlets. Why weren't other businesses Why weren't.
like businesses like Hilton or Hardies, Dickies, uh, you know, Carnival Cruise. Lines? How weren't there other big. businesses that were lobbying like in. the other way like against this? Like. this is, you know, other companies with. big money. Why weren't they able to. lobby and say this is ridiculous? Yeah. I think. you know what I'm saying? Like like. companies that would. It's a really That is a really good. question. But I I think one of the. things they did for those companies is. they bought them all off.
You know, they paid the airlines and. they paid the the cruise lines and um. you know, they um you know, they were. getting they printed money. They're you. know, they're billing the next 10. generations and they're they're keeping. the corporations rich. But and I think. you know a lot of those businesses. didn't want to put their heads up over. the parapit. Yeah. Anybody who sticks their head up. and says, you know, this is wrong. They're uh that, you know, what's going. to come down on them is uh makes it so.
that they're they're too too scared. So your family in the past could have. been a victim of espionage. Um do you think that that is something. that fuels your. your. I don't know if it if it motivates me. I. think I mean really I stumbled into this. issue because these you know I was suing. um cement kils and coal burning power. plants for putting mercury in fish. There was.
you're the environmentalist. The. environment was on the outside and now. they're going they've come inside of us. And there was a group of women who had. children who were had intellectual. disabilities and they believe that their. kids. talking about this. had um were vaccine injured and they. basically forced me to read a bunch of. scientific studies and when I read them. I got pissed off and that brought me. down the rabbit hole. But um you know. I've written a couple of books. and many articles about um my about what.
happened to my family and my family had. a 60-year battle with the CIA. I'm very. very familiar with um you know with all. of that uh intrigue and and the. involvement in the intelligence agencies. in my uncle's death and in my father's. death. So because I'm attuned to that, I. also am I have an open mind about, you. know, an ability kind of to to look and.
say, why are they involved with public. health, right? Why are these agencies? The CIA was involved in 73 coup d'etas. between 1947 and 2000, onethird of the. countries in the world. They've never. done public health. Yeah. You know, why are they now deeply. involved in public health? And that. event 2011. that's interesting. as I show in my book. was not one off. They were doing that. drill year after year after year and.
each one of them the CIA was involved. and they were simulating pandemics again. and again and again beginning in 2000. anthrax smallox corona virus flu. and every one of them the CIA was. involved. Why is that? Yeah. I mean it's so it's that's the. thing. It's like there's a lot of things. that I read get to certain get to the. end of certain chapters, end of certain. paragraphs, and it's like, man, why is. that? Yeah. I think that's the number one takeaway. that I have in reading as much of this.
as I have so far. Like, man, why is that? Um, yeah. Why is this. chef over here teaching rollerblading? You know what I'm saying? Like, why is. this business over here with this. business? Um, do you worry about like uh. do you feel like you have any lawsuit. worries with this book or no? Wasn't no. Yeah. I mean, truth is defense to liel and. everything in the book is true. Yeah. I mean, there may be somebody will find. them and say, but I have 2,200 footnotes.
in there with references. So, every. statement, factual statement in that. book, I have a reference for a source. for that. And and we have a QR code that. allows which never been done before in a. book that allows anybody who reads this. book to go to the references and view. them on their cell phone. Oh wow. Do you think we've become too lazy as a. population? Have we already become too. like addicted to this technology and. addicted to to just cuz we've definitely.
something has happened to the human. Um. Yeah. And the problem is. I think we're cooked, man. Listen, the. the ambition of every totalitarian. regime in human history has been. complete control of the population. They've never been able to do that. before. You could always escape to the. hills. You could read books secretly. You could have a radio in your, you. know, Anne Frank um had secret books. She had a, you know, they had a radio in. the basement. All this.
today, you can't do that. Today there's. nowhere to hide. Bill Gates said his. 65,000. satellites are going to be able to. surveil every square foot of the Earth. 24 hours a day. They have track and. trace surveillance everywhere. Now they. have um in China they've already. deployed software. that can read guilt on the human face. They claim, oh, it's pre crime. If you. feel guilty about, you know, they can.
scan a football stadium and pick out the. people who look guilty. We're perverts, too. The other thing is that probably, you know, what they're doing is these. vaccine passports. That's going to completely change our. relationship with our rights because. right now, you have a whole bunch of. rights, right? You can go to the bowling. alley. You can go out to a sports game. You can hang out with whoever you want. to hang out with. You can get on a plane. and travel. You can educate educated, you can do all of these things. Now.
those are rights. Once you get that vaccine passport, that. becomes a privilege. That is conditional on your compliance. So if the vaccine passport says you got. to get four boosters a year and you. didn't do it, you now can't get in the. ball game, you can't get on the. airplane, the rights are now. conditional. They used to be. unconditional. Now they're conditional. And here's where we're going. We're going to digitalize currency. So. your, you know, social credit will be on.
that vaccine passport. Your credit. scores will be on that vaccine passport. And in Europe, this is one of the things. when I went over there, you know, two. weeks ago and gave speeches about this, about the passports, which they're now. imposing. Wow. The passports are not being issued by. the health departments, the health. ministries. They're being issued by the. financial ministry. Why is that? Yeah. Because we're going to digitalize. currency.
They're going to be able to look at. every transaction. They're going to get. rid of currency, which we're already. doing. It's already hard to find coins. Oh, yeah. You can't if you give somebody. a dollar, they don't even know what to. do. That's where we're going. We're going to. digitalize currency. They're going to be. able to to track every single. transaction that you have. They're going. to be able to tax it. the the financial. institutions are going to be able to. make money on the friction of every. transaction. But they can also do what. they call programmable money, which is if you are, for example, if you.
don't get your vaccine, if you're. disobedient. and they say to you, okay, you can't. leave your house and you can only shop. in grocery stores within one mile of. your house, your currency will now only. work in those grocery stores. It will. not work in a gas station. Wow. So if you don't have a passport, then you can't even buy certain places, right? Or or you can't travel. You can't. if they you know you if if you live in a.
Pasadena, it can say your your money will only. work in Pasadena. It won't work. You. know, it won't let you to drive to. Brenwood. They can completely control every. movement that you have. You you can't. buy gas. you can't buy anything except. what they want you to buy and that level. of control is, you know, I think really. destructive and that's where we're. going. So, what's going to are people just. going to lose like just tyrants going to. take over and just attack the Samsung.
building or like what's going to happen, you know? Well, I I how do you rebel? This is happening in every country in. the world. One place where people are standing up. is um ironically it's in the red states. in America. Yeah. You know, I was in Louisiana. yesterday and I gave a a speech, a. presentation to. um the, you know, the legislature there. and they voted against the, you know,
the mandates to children and it was. Democrats and Republicans voting against. it was a bipartisan vote. Um, but I. think in those a lot of the states, you. go to that state, there's no mass. Same. with Florida, same with Texas. People. Yeah, I live in Tennessee some and. there's no m and it's been fine. Like. that's the I just don't understand. what's going on. Like, well, Florida has the lowest infection. rate in the country and it has the. loosest rules. Yeah. So, what So, I don't understand. how none of the the reality of things.
isn't permeating. I don't Some of the. smartest people I know aren't asking. questions. Absolutely. That's what's blowing my mind. Yeah. Like one of my neighbors like the. smartest dude I know. I'm like dude you. don't think this like you you're the one. who always tells me to ask questions and. I forget and now you're like you're not. asking any qu like and you and you come. back to LA and it's like there's a lot. more mandates and stuff here in. strictness even though I feel like it's. getting a little looser though. Um but. then you go.
you still get hostility from people who. if you ask questions about it. Yeah. Hell, why is there something inside of. some people they're just afraid to. question or do you think that they just. I don't know some things for me to if I. saw more people dying around me, you. know, and I'm not saying people haven't. died, but I don't know one person that's. died, you know. Well, people did die, but people are. dying in the vaccine, too. And we're. not, you know, there's there's 19,000. people.
whose death has been reported after. vaccination. Now, during the um in 1976. when we had the vaccine, the flu. vaccine, 46 people died and they pulled the. vaccine. Wow. Now, 19,000. And what's. what HHS says. is that that system is only capturing 1%. of the vaccine injuries. It could be. much much higher than that. And you're. seeing a lot of people who are dropping.
dead of sudden death, who are young. people who should not be dying. You read. about it every day. Yesterday, the. editorial page editor of the Washington. Post, you know, died suddenly. And. you're seeing that, you know, that the. sports figures who have dropped out on. the field, you're seeing those and those. guys are not being reported as vaccine. injuries. Oh, you know, um. but why wouldn't like places that are. why wouldn't they be reported as vaccine. and like why wouldn't we get that.
information? Like, well, who's going to report it? The the. doctors, you know, first of all, it. takes a half hour to do the report. Doctors don't want to do it. and and the. doctors are telling themselves that's. not a vaccine injury. That guy just had. a heart attack. You know, they don't. want to admit to themselves that it's a. vaccine. Particularly if they gave the. vaccine to the guy, they don't want to. say it was that intervention that killed. him. That's the problem with a voluntary. system. You need a system that is a. machine counting system, one that which.
you can easily do. HHS actually developed one. a look at. all the they know who got it which. vaccine down to the batch number and. then you do a cluster analysis and. saying are those guys more likely to die. are they more likely to get diabetes uh. rheumatoid arthritis MS than the people. who weren't and you can look at that and. you can do it very quickly but none of. that is being done all of that kind of.
research gets blocked. it just blows my mind that that that. there's no liability for for the for the. companies making things because I just. feel we've had such a t it's it's become. obvious for me anyway and this is just. me that drug companies don't care about. people you know like all the people that. died of drug overdoses and oxycode all. those it's just like it it just seems. real obvious so I don't know why there's. just such an immediate tr like just an.
im it was just this immediate almost. like forced clo everything was just. closed losing and it just seemed like a. everyone was just going to trust. suddenly drug companies. That's the part. that really I guess has always just made. me uncomfortable, you know. I mean, I've. never trusted anybody. I mean, these are the same companies. that gave us the opioid epidemic, which. killed 56,000 kids a year and more. kids every year than died in the entire. Vietnam war over 20 years. And every. year, and we know they did it.
deliberately, the four big vaccine companies in this. country, Seni, Merc, Fizer, and Glaco, have paid $35 billion over the last 10. years in criminal penalties and damages. for defrauding regulators, for lying to. doctors, for killing hundreds of. thousands of Americans. Vio, which was. Merrug, it knew it was going to cause. heart attacks and kill people. But I. thought they can't be sued for Oh, they. can be sued for they can't be sued for.
vaccinations. They can be sued for medicine. But even in the plays where they can get. sued, their criminal culture is part of. who they are. And even though when they. know they're going to get caught, they. can get caught, they still do it. So. what happens to that same company when. he knows there's no way he'll ever get. caught because there's no discovery, there's no depositions, there's no. document searches. And even if you find. out that he killed you, you can't sue. him,
right? Do you think Fouchi is an evil? Do you think it's evil that's in him? I. mean, I mean, are you saying with this. book that he's just an evil guy or do. you think he's compromised? Would. anybody have been him? It's just a power. and he's just a p he's just the man in. the position. Is there darker forces at. at work? Listen, we all, as you know, think of ourselves as we we measure. ourselves by our intention rather than. by by behavior. So, I don't know whether. he um I don't know how he views himself,
but I I'm know that he must believe that. it's okay to impose collateral damage on. people in order. Maybe he's convincing. himself there's a larger cause, but you know, I've documented again and. again and again how he's with the ACT. during the AIDS epidemic, which he knew. was poisoning people, killed 330,000. people and he knew it was doing that and. that it was worthless and he let it. happen. Um Anna Arent, who wrote a lot.
about the Third Reich, and she was a, you know, philosopher and writer and. holocaust survivor. She talked about death killers during. the Third Reich. There were people who. worked in the, you know, there were. guards in the death camps that were. actually killing people, escorting them. into gas chambers. She said the worst of the people were. the people who killed from their desks. the people who made these big decisions. that involved tens of thousands,
hundreds of thousands of people and. signed it and then, you know, signed off. on it and then went home and kissed. their wife and pet the dog and hugged. their children and thought very very. highly of themselves. And I think that's. what I think um you know Dr. Fouchy is. I think he's a death killer. And do you think and how what what role. does Bill Gates play in it so much? I. know you you mention him a lot in the. book. Gates um called Fouchi to his home.
in 2000 and summoned him to his $187. million mansion on the Banks of Lake. Washington up in Seattle. And he brought. him into the den and he said, "I want to. propose a partnership with you.". Damn. It's like a damn uh what's that. movie, dude? The Mer uh with the Italian guys. You. know what I'm talking about? Godfathers. Oh yeah. God. Um, so he So you believe that they're just. in cahoots? Well, I know they are. And what they. But is it just business that they're. doing? Do they just think it's just.
business? In fact, do you think that they thinking like. Sherman or something? You know, Michael Spectre asked. um Tony Fouchy. what his favorite line from his favorite. movie was, and he said, "It's The. Godfather, and my favorite line is it's. just business." M. and I think that, you know, he really. does look at this as a um as a, you know, he's promoting pharmaceutical.
products. He does not do basic science. anymore. He doesn't do the job that he's. being hired to do. He develops. pharmaceutical products and he's turned. his agency into an incubator for the. pharmaceutical company. He creates the. products there. He sells them. He he. shares patents with the big drug. companies and with the universities and. then he gets them through the regulatory. process and promotes them. And you know during. we've gone during his 50-year period.
there we've gone from being the. healthiest population in the world to. the sickest. We are literally of the top. 79 countries in the world. Are you serious? We have the worst health. We use three. times the pharmaceutical drugs of any. other nation. We pay the highest prices and we have. the worst health outcomes of the 79 top. countries in the world. We are the. worst. And he's been in charge the whole time. Yes. And is he the one who writes the checks. for research? Is it his company?
Yeah. He gives away uh $7.6 billion a. year. And. him personally, he gets to write the. check. He chooses who gets it. He chooses who gets it. There's not a. board that does it. No. Well, he chooses he runs that agency. with a a tight hand. uh what he does is he'll develop these. drugs within his labs. and they farm them out to you know what. they'll do is. in his lab he has thousands of vials of.
corona virus of dangi virus of hanka. virus of flu of you know all of the. different polio whatever. and they'll take different combination. of molecules and they drip them into. that lab culture and see if it kills the. virus. If it kills the virus, then they have an. antiviral. So now they have to see, does. it kill the rat? Because if it kills the virus, but it. doesn't kill the rat. Now they have a. medicine.
Then he farms it out to the university. and he gives them money. So the. university will will do animal studies. and they'll do phase one studies which. is hundred people basically. He will give that university, the dean. of that department who is called the. principal investigator. 15 to $20,000. per recruit. So that dean is a doctor. He's recruiting patients to test this. drug. He's getting, let's say, $20,000 per.
patient that he recruits to participate. in that f that trial. The university skims off 50 to 75% of. that money, keeps it. So now the. university is now partnering with. well phase two studies and phase three. where they're bringing in 10 or 20,000. people they now bring in the drug. company and the drug company gets most. of the patent Tony Fouch can keep some. for himself for his agency. or individuals right the university gets.
to keep one the university PI gets to. keep it and then Fouchi ushers it. through the regulatory process So here's. the punchline. Between 2009 and 2016, there were. 240 new drugs that were de that were. approved by FDA that came through Tony. Fouch's shop. So he is the biggest. pharmaceutical incubator in the world. He's. the CBS. He's the top CBS. He's not doing what he's supposed to do, which was.
trying to figure out where's the autism. epidemic coming from? Why do we now have. diabetes? I remember you talking about this last. time we were together. We got one. question that came in about that. actually from a young man. And thank you. for your time, Robert. What's up, Mr. Kennedy? I have a. question for you. I have a 4-year-old. autistic son. Uh I know you've done a. little research uh with vaccines and uh. how it all ties in together. Maybe you. could dive into that some. And also with. uh technology growing uh rapidly do you.
think there's a chance for uh some. normaly for my boy moving forward in his. life? Appreciate your time. Big fan Theo. gang gang. Hey baby guess you kind of answered some. of that. Yeah. Where is he calling from? Like it. was. look like Oklahoma or something. Huh? Like in an airplane or something. But. yeah, he might have been. Who knows, man. Probably trying to get off the. planet. I don't blame him, man. scary. down here. Well, I mean know here's what happened.
in my generation. One in uh 10,000. between 1 and 2500. There's a couple. different studies that look at the. prevalence of autism. Oh yeah, we have. and people are 67. So in my generation. between 1 in 2500 and one in 10,000. people have have autism. Even today my. age, I've never seen anybody with. full-blown autism my age. Oh, I know a. lot of people. You know, people who are who are like.
the quirky uncle or the person whose. asper is or can't look you in the eye. Yeah. Party autism. I'm talking about full-blown autism. People, men who are six, sevenyear-old. in diapers, wearing a football helmet, headbanging, nonverbal, non-toilet trained. Uh. Alabama fans basically is what you're. saying honestly. But no, I know what. you're saying. Sorry. you know, stmming, toe walking. They don't I've never seen. somebody like that. And I have been. around intellectual disabilities my. whole life. My family started Special.
Olympics, Best Buddies, etc. Never seen anybody my age with it. In my. my kids age group, it's one in every 22. boys according to CDC. One in every 34. kids. Oh, Tony Fouch's job. is to figure out why that's happening. it it when EPA was told, Congress said. to EPA, tell us what year the autism epidemic. began, the EPA scientists came back and. they said 1989. It's a red line.
And so Tony Fouch's got a pretty easy. job. He has to figure out a an exposure, a chemical exposure or some other. exposure. that happened beginning in 1989 that. that affected every demographic group. that from Cubans and Kiscane to Inuit. Homer, Alaska, everybody in between. and that um you know that affected boys. at a 4:1 ratio to girls there has to be. a chemical that does that. So or some.
other exposure. Now there's a scientist. called Phil Landrean. He narrowed it down to 11 things. One um. glyphosate which is Roundup. Oh yeah. Round up something that. suddenly exploded around 1989. Yeah. Um it could be PFOAs which are flame. retardants which became ubiquitous. around that same time. It could be cell. phones. It could be ultrasound. It could be.
neonicottoid pesticides. It could be. corn syrup. There's a limited number of things it. can be. Right. Right. And it's an easy thing to do the. science to figure out which one it is. And we haven't done it. And Tony Fouchy hasn't done it. But all. of these neurodedevelopmental, autoimmune, and um and allergic diseases. that suddenly exploded in 1989. are business. All of them are also. listed as side effects of vaccine on the. manufacturers's insert of the 72.
vaccine. We went. I was a kid. I got three vaccines. My. kids got 72 vaccines. and it changed in '89. Vaccines have to. be on that list for a whole lot. And. there's a lot of science that says. that's what's causing it. including. 1999 CDC study called the first Stratton. study that they never released but we. got a hold of it. They looked at the. biggest database in the country, the. vaccine safety data link. They looked at.
kids who got the hepatitis B vaccine. during the first 30 days and compared it. to kids who did not get it or got it. after 30 days. And here's what they. found. The kids who got it had an 1135%. greater chance of getting an autism ep. autism diagnosis than kids who did not. And that is pretty strong evidence. What do you think is a solution then to. kind of where we're at now? Do you feel. like Anthony Fouchy shouldn't be in his. space? No, he should he should be in prison.
But. the solution is really with all of us. We need to resist. We need, you know, nobody ever complied their way out of. totalitarian rule. We've seen our Bill of Rights. obliterated. We're seeing a level of. totalitarianism that is unprecedented. in, you know, but it's not just America. It's across all the liberal democracies. in the world. And all the powers these governments. have accumulated over the last to tell. you to not do your business, to not go.
to church, to stay in your house, to put. on a mask, to do what you're told. There's no government in history that. has ever relinquished power once it got. it. without a demand. We need to start. demanding that our government that we're. not going to comply anymore. And all of. us have to. what I tell people is you need to do. three civil disobedience a day. And that. could be just talking to your neighbor. and educating them. It could be telling.
somebody in your local store who has a. don't come in if you don't have a mass. sign. I'm not going to shop here. anymore. And um it could be uh it you. know it could be buying my book and. giving it to somebody who doesn't. And I. don't get any money off that book. It. all goes to Children's Health Defense. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow man. That's awesome. Yeah. It all goes to fund our litigation. and um. so uh but you know people need to start.
resisting. We need to start reclaiming. our rights. Look, there was a we need to. start loving our freedom more than we. fear a germ. And there was a whole um. generation of Americans who lived in. 1776. who said there's worse things than. dying. And living without these. liberties is worse than death. Yeah. And thanks to them, we have the Bill of. Rights. They put their livelihood, their. property, and their lives on the line so. that we could have these rights. And in.
20 months, we've given them away. We. need to get them back. Oh, look, man. you, you know, you're a. friend and I've long appreciated your. uh, you know, you're taking care of the. environment and looking out for the. environment outside of us and and now. inside of our bodies, man. I know it's. important to you and and uh I I enjoyed. the book, man, The Real Anthony Fouchy, uh, by Robert Kennedy Jr. You guys check. it out. Um, it's it's I mean, it's a. it's a interesting read, man. Thank you. so much for coming on. Thank you.
Now I'm just floating on the breeze and. I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I. must be corner stone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll. share this peace of mind I found. I can. feel it in my bones. But it's going to take, a little time. for me to set that parking brake and let.
myself unwind. Shine that light on me. I'll sit and tell you my story. Shine. on me. and I will find a song. I'll sing it. just. and now I've been moving way too fast on.
the runaway train with a heavy load of. my hand. And these girls that I've been riding. on, they w so thin that they're damn. near gone. I guess now they just.
