Professor Jiang | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #675

Today's guest is a teacher, geopolitics. expert, and YouTuber known for his. popular channel Predictive History, where he breaks down why global events. happen, and what could come next. We. covered a lot of ground here. Uh, war in. the Middle East, China verse America, secret societies. Uh, I had a fascinating chat with. today's guest, Professor Xang. Shine. on [music] me.

and I will find a song I've been. singing. >> Professor Jang. >> Hey Theo. >> Is that is that correct? >> That's correct. Yeah. >> Professor Jang, thank you so much for. coming by today. >> Well, thank thanks so much for inviting. me. >> Yeah, I'm very happy to have you. Is. this your first time in Los Angeles? >> It's my first time in Los Angeles. Yeah. And how's how's the experience been so. far? >> It's been surreal. Um, so your producers.

have been wonderful. Uh, they put me in. this fantastic hotel. >> and, uh, I went for a walk around the. neighborhood, um, West Hollywood. Um, so. I went down San Monica Boulevard. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's just gorgeous. Yeah. >> Just um, the streets are so illuminated. and the build are so beautiful. But. then, you know, as I'm walking, there's. in the middle of the of the sidewalk a. pile of dog. >> Yeah. >> So, I walk past it and it takes me a.

couple minutes to realize that didn't. come from a dog, actually. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, yeah, it's been surreal. >> Yeah. We got a lot of tall dogs in this. [laughter] area, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That's just a little decoration, brother. That's how it goes here. And if. you're lucky, it'll have a needle in it. in the middle. >> It's freedom, man. >> Yeah, it is freedom, man. Uh, Professor. Jeang, thank you so much for just making. the trip, uh, for coming and joining us. I know you're from your channel, your. YouTube channel, Predictive History. Um, can you tell us a little bit about your.

channel for people that don't know about. it? >> Yeah, so um, I'm a high school teacher. and what I try to do is try to explain. geopolitics in a way that students can. appreciate. And what I try to do is with. my with my analysis, I try to make. predictions and that's a really um good. way to engage students as well as to. test my own worldview, my own. hypothesis. And so two years ago while I. was teaching this class, I made three. predictions. The first is that Trump.

would win in 2024 and uh that he would. launch this war against Iran and that he. would lose this war. And uh I blew up on. online because it turns out that all. three predictions should not be. accurate. >> Well, I the first two for sure and. that's how you came on my radar was with. those two predictions. That's how I. learned about you at first. >> And um before we move on with it, do you. teach at high school? >> That's right. I I teach a high school. level. >> What's something that's kind of unique. about a school in China maybe that we. wouldn't know? >> Well, there are no guns. Uh.

>> okay. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Good. You win. You win. >> Sorry. I I'm sorry. I didn't. So, so. I've been in China and we're just. brainwashed all the time of American. schools, American culture. >> But at least you're brainwashed not to. have guns in school. That's that's some. of the positive brainwashing at least. >> Um yeah, you came on my radar whenever. uh I saw the videos about your um your. predicting your Trump win and predicting. uh the war in Iran. Um I I noticed that. you use something called game theory. >> Yes.

>> Um can you explain uh game theory just. so people know? >> Yeah. So the idea of game theory is that. um if you want to analyze someone's. behavior, you have to look at three. things. Um first of all, you have to. look at the structure of the game. Uh. how do you win the game? What are the. rules? What are the incentives? Um and. once you figure that out, then uh you. can figure out his or her optimal. behavior in this game. So in terms in. terms of geopolitics just imagine the.

United States uh Iran, Israel, Saudi. Arabia as distinct players in the game. where they're trying to maximize the. outcome against each other and they will. use their own unique strategies in order. to achieve so and that's how I'm able to. make some amazing predictions. >> Yeah, I know. I know the game theory. I. remember first hearing about it in that. film Beautiful Mind. >> Oh, yes. Yes. >> Who was the what was the guy's name, Nick? Uh John Nash. >> John Nash. Yeah, he uses that like. whenever the whenever he's examining.

things or trying to figure things out, he uses that in there um in there. >> And he went crazy, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. And he went crazy. So, best. of luck, >> right? Thank you. >> Best of luck, professor. Um yeah, let's. talk about the war in Iran. Let's start. there because that's fresh. That's on. everybody's mind right now. Do you think. it could be our new Vietnam or what do. you what like h how are you viewing the. war in Iran right now? Yeah. The best. case scenario is that becomes um uh. America's Vietnam. But I think the. problem is that. >> that's best case scenario. >> That's best case scenario. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think the problem is that this war. is expanding very rapidly. So before a. few months ago, it was limited to uh a. war between Israel, United States and. Iran. And now it's brought in Saudi. Arabia against the Houthies uh which is. in Yemen. Um there's a credible uh. threat that the war in Ukraine might. merge with the war in Iran because Yes. Because what's happened um a couple. weeks ago is that a Iranian cargo ship.

that was transporting supplies from. Russia to Iran uh through the Caspian. Sea. it was hit by a Ukrainian drone. >> and um since then the Ukrainians have. apologized but um the according to game. theory right now the Ukrainians aren't. doing so well uh in Ukraine and uh right. now Russia is fighting a war of. attrition and because Russia is such a. much bigger power than Ukraine [snorts]. in the long term Ukraine will ultimately. lose this war. So to change that.

dynamic, what Zilinsky wants to do is. lure America into the war. And the best. way he can do that is to combine the two. fronts. Um so um if Zilinski shows that. Russia can supply Iran through the. Caspian Sea, then uh America needs to. stop this trade and Ukraine can help. America by sending in drones to attack. uh Iranian shipping. So there's a real.

threat that these two fronts merge in. which case all bets are off in which. case it's World War II and you can also. um see the possibility of systems. collapse civilization collap as well. >> all of that from that. >> from that and the reason why is that. area Ukraine the Middle East it's really. the nexus or the heart of the global. economy because that's where the world. gets. >> but Ukraine and the Middle East are. pretty far from each other. Can you even. show me on this globe actually how far. away from each other are they? >> Right. Right. So this is really. interesting. Okay. So this is UK. This. is Iran.

>> And you can move that close. >> Okay. Sure. Yeah. So what I want to show. you is how far these fronts are. Okay. So this war in Ukraine has been going on. since 2022, right? It's been 4 years. >> and most of the funding is going on in. eastern Ukraine right over here. Um and. fortunately the war has been limited to. this front. Now, as of um late February, uh Iran, this war in Iran has broken out. and what's been happening is that at.

first the main conflict was over the. street of Hamus, which is right here. >> But the problem is the entire Middle. East depends on the strip of Hamuz for. trade. So Saudi Arabia, um, Bahan, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, what they do is they. take their oil and then they transport. it all the way for the Malaka uh to East. Asia. um and to India and Pakistan. So really.

the oil from the Middle East feeds the. economies of Asia. Uh you look at a. place like Japan, it depends on 3/4 of. its oil from over here. >> Wow. >> Um in China depends on 40%, India it's. like 50 to 60%. In return uh these. places will send food over back to the. Middle East as well as water because. this place is a desert. They don't have. their own uh food and water. But now.

what people don't appreciate is that. there are lots of byproducts of oil. production. Um and one of these. byproducts is fertilizer for food and. this fertilizer also transits through. the sha moose to Africa and this. fertilizer feeds their population. So. imagine what happens if this entire air. shuts down, right? You can have famine. in Africa and you can have a collapse in. East Asia which would then um cause a.

domino effect where uh Africa breaks. down. you have civil war, revolution, Africa. Then what happens? These. migrants shift over to Europe. We've. already seen that uh last week when you. have this 50,000. essentially invasion in Spain. >> That's right. Uh a place called CO2 uh. Spain. Yeah. >> Right. And that's a small part of Spain. that's actually connected to Morocco. Right. >> That's right. That's right. Um we we we. can see how volatile the situation is.

>> Wow. So it's really a domino effect. >> Right. Now, Ukraine um is very important. because Ukraine and Russia together. supplies the world with onethird of its. carbohydrates. So, Ukraine. >> Ukraine say that again. Ukraine and. Russia together supply the world with a. third of their carbohydrates. >> So, so yeah. So, so what I'm saying is. um a third of the world's carbohydrates. comes from Ukraine and Russia together. >> Wow. Is that true? >> Yeah. So, um Ukraine is cons basket of.

Europe. >> Wow. The claim is not accurate, but it. means that one-third of all carbohydrate. carbohydrates eaten or produced globally. come from Russia and Ukraine. A more. accurate version is Russia and Ukraine. have supplied roughly 12% of. internationally traded food calories in. a very large share of specific grain. export markets, about 28 to 30% of. globally traded wheat. So there's a. there is a huge amount of um of food. calories that comes out of there. >> That's right. That's right. >> So that is true.

>> That's right. Yeah. Okay. >> So, thanks so much for facteing me. Um, but but yeah, but you can you can. appreciate how the world depends on. food, fertilizer, and energy from this. area. And so, um, the great threat is. that because, uh, Russia can supply Iran. through the Caspian Sea, the war extends. to the northern caucuses, which brings. in Armenia, Georgia, and Arjan.

And then if that would happen, you can. see this entire area is now engulfed in. war. Another really critical uh thing. that's been happening these past few. weeks is that more and more nations are. being brought into this war. So. >> into which war into the one in the. Middle East. >> in in the Middle East. And the reason. why is that for Iran to pressure the. United States, what Iran can do is. threaten the energy infrastructure of. American allies in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, uh,

Bahan. What Iran can do is hold the. energy infrastructure of the Middle East. hostage. Imagine Saudi Arabia as just. this huge oil field. >> Okay? >> Right? And it's great in a time of peace. because you can take this huge oil field. and sell it to Japan, China, uh, South. Korea, India. But the problem is that a. huge oil field means it's a lake of. gasoline. So all I have to do is take a. match, light it on fire, and then. everything blows up. And Iran can do.

that with its drone and ballistic. missile uh capabilities. >> And so um um Iran is always threat. threatening this. The other issue is. that Iran has proxies meaning allies in. uh the Middle East and there are three. major allies. The first are a people. called the Houthies um uh who are these. religious fanatic people who live in. mountains and they occupy a very. strategic area called the Bal Landab. Strait.

>> B El Mandab Straight. >> Yes. So, so here is a Hummus. Yes. >> Yes. >> This is the Bal Land Straight. And as. you can see, these are the two most. critical maritime choke points in the. Middle East. >> Wow. >> And the problem is that the Houthis are. live in mountains. So it's almost. impossible to dislodge them. And because. so much of maritime um shipping requires. insurance, any threat of destruction means that the.

insurance companies don't want um to. insure these ships. And that puts a hold. on global trade. So the real fear is. that Saudi Arabia will launch a ground. invasion to dislodge the Houthis and. control this. >> wow. >> choke point. Okay. So you can imagine a. massive alliance being um um formed to. go against the Houthis. Another major. proxy is called Hespala which is in. Lebanon. And uh these past few few.

weeks, Israel has been trying to to uh. attack Hezbollah. And there's a real. threat that this era, Lebanon, breaks. out into total war. And right now, what. Israel is trying to do is assemble an. alliance to destroy Hezbollah. And this. alliance includes Israel, but it also. includes Syria. >> and also includes the uh Lebanese army. And uh Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran. So. Iran if it sees Hezbollah under threat.

then Iran would extend the war in order. to uh help out uh uh Hezbollah. >> But why would the Lebanese army support. Israel if hasn't there been issues. between Israel and Lebanon recently? >> Right. So um. >> like hasn't there been attacks in. Lebanon from Israel? >> Right. So, Israel is attacking Lebanon. because it sees Hesbah as a threat. because Hesblah can launch rocket.

attacks against uh Israel and Lebanon. can threaten uh sorry, Hesbah can. threaten the Suez Canal. >> cuz wait, Israel has been attacking. Lebanon, right? >> That's right. >> Okay, great. >> That's right. So, um Lebanon uh. Hezbollah is not part of the Lebanese. government. Got it. And so imagine there. are different sectarian groups in Leb in. Lebanon and they share power together. And one of these groups is Hezbollah and. Hezbollah is aligned with Iran and they. are committed to uh protecting. themselves from from Israel and Israel.

sees them as a bunch of terrorists that. need to be removed. And um so um Hespa. the problem with Hespa is that it's. extremely popular in Lebanon among the. Lebanese people because unlike the. Lebanese government, they're not corrupt. >> and they provide good services to the. people. Understood. So yes, sometimes we. hear about these groups. You hear about. Hamas, you hear about Hezbollah, but the. people there in some of these countries. actually prefer some of these groups or.

actually do support some of these groups. because they're kind of an outlier. government that's more supportive to the. people than the actual government. >> That's right. So they're popular because. they are able to provide basic community. services to the local population. And. unfortunately. um these governments in the Middle East. a lot of them have proved to be very. corrupt and um a lot of their leaders. seem to be um sympathetic towards. Israeli interest and people suspect that.

they've been blackmailed by Mossad. because Mossad's very good at that. >> Yeah. >> What kind of blackmail could MSAD be. doing do you feel like in these spaces? Like you talk about blackmail and you. hear about blackmail a lot. you hear. about massage, you hear about blackmail. in America a lot like um. >> with the Epstein files and different. places holding things potentially over. like American politicians heads. >> So I think that rather than use the word. blackmail, I think we we can use the. word influence. >> How how are they have able to have so. much influence in the area?

>> Well, I mean the um easiest way is. become friends with these people, right? So uh let's just say you're leader of. Lebanon. Well, you have children. Don't. you want your children to go to the best. schools? Mhm. >> Don't you want your children to get good. jobs? Maybe working for like Goldman. Sachs, maybe working for um a university. as a professor. Well, we can help you. because we have all these friends in the. United States and we can arrange visas. for your kids to go study at elite.

universities. We can ensure that they. get good jobs. Right. >> Right. >> I mean, it's that simple. Right. It's. that simple. Let's just be friends. Right. >> Right. And so if you're a leader of a. place like Lebanon and the entire place. is rife with sectarian violence, there's. not much you can do. Entire place is. rife with what? >> Um, sectarian violence. >> Sectarian violence. >> Sectarian violence. >> Social sectarian. >> Okay. Sectarian. >> violence. >> S e c a r i a n. And sectarian violence.

is physical conflict and harm between. different religious or political groups. within a community or nation. That's. there's a lot of that in Lebanon. >> Yeah. Because you have a lot of. different religious groups in Lebanon. You have the Christians, you have the. Muslims, and then they're also broken up. in like different groups, and they're. also like these tribal loyalties. throughout the Middle East. So, if. you're a leader um of Lebanon or Iraq um. or um any place in the Middle East,

>> uh you're dealing with a very volatile. political situation. And do you really. want to deal with these people or would. you rather use your position to ensure. that your children have a better future? >> Right. To help out your relatives, help. out your friends and and that's why they. go into this these political uh. positions. So, and that's the and that's. the main way that the Mossad is able to. exert influence over the um Middle East. because they can help these leaders send. their money and their children to a safe.

place in Europe or the United States. And if and and that is just um being. being friendly. >> Yeah. That's human survival, too. It's. like where you want to survive. You want. to be well enough to take care of. yourselves. That's right. >> So, it's not always like a level of. blackmail that's violence. It's. sometimes it's a level of uh. it's a level of assistance. >> That's right. I'm just helping you out. We're helping each other out. Right. Right. >> I help out your children and you help me. kill people who are doing nasty things. like Hzbollah. Right. We both hate.

Hzbollah because they're terrorists. So. we're we're and we're just like rubbing. each other's back. >> Yeah. You mentioned the uh the straight. of hormuz a few minutes ago. >> Yes. >> Um why is that place so important? >> Yeah. So that place. >> cuz you you hear it all the time. Can. you explain it kind of in basic terms. and why it's so important? >> Right. Okay. The ship who moves is the. lynch pin of the Middle East economy. because like um if you just look at this. globe, okay, there are certain countries. that are within the Persian Gulf, right?

Kuwait, Qatar, uh the United Arab. Emirates, basically Dubai. Now, it's. important because there's only one way. for the for them to transport uh their. oil. >> Okay, got it. >> Right. Okay. Do do you see how um. there's only one. passageway? It's like a one-way street. >> Got it. >> Right. So, they're going to take their. oil and then transport it to East Asia.

>> Mhm. >> And then um they're and then what they. get in return is water and food because. it's a desert. They can't grow their own. food. Got it. >> They don't have their own water. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, that is crucial to their. survival. If that were to be eliminated, like suddenly closed off, then UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Ban, all these places. would be dead in the water. Recently, Trump had spoken up. I think it was even. just the other day where he said, uh, he.

said, um, that Iran will be hit very. hard. You know, he's always like, we're. going to hit, you know, we're going to. hit them in the you know, in the. head nuts or whatever. We're. going to hit them in the, you. know, the mittens they wear around their. head. He's always doing so but it's like. he said they're going to be hit very. hard if the straight of Hormuz doesn't. open very soon. >> Yes. >> How is I how is Iran like controlling. that effectively right now for. themselves right? Yes. Um and how. successful are they being with their. management of the straight of Hormuz. right now? >> Yes. Okay. So to answer this question I.

have to explain a concept to you called. the escalation ladder. >> Okay. >> Okay. So what is the escalation ladder? It's a very simple idea which is in a. fight um. emotions. create momentum. >> Okay. >> Okay. So for example, let's just say you. and I uh we have a fight. Um I tell a. joke. You you think it sucks. I get. pissed off you so I punch you. Right. So. So what? Then you punch me back. Then I. I'm like, "Okay." Then I take out a. knife and I stab you. Then you get a.

knife and then you stab me. Then I take. out a gun. I shoot you. Take out a gun. Then you shoot me. then I take out that. bazooka and I hit you. Okay. Okay. So, so but you can see how it's a ladder and. and how um emotions create momentum but. there's a logic to the escalation. Okay. So, understand the escalation ladder. Now, I'll explain to you how the war in. Iran has been escalating. >> Okay. >> And how it should continue to escalate. if the war continues. So, >> so this is so this is an escalation. ladder you're showing involving.

involving Iran in the straight of. Hormuz. >> Yes. So, this is United States and this. is Iran. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, um we start the war with United. States using something called a. decapitation strategy meaning that um if. the what the United States believes that. if I take out your leader now you're. leaderless and therefore you must. surrender to me. So in the first day uh. February 28th they killed the alatollah. uh kame the supreme leader of Iran.

>> the Ayatollah committee. Yeah. >> that's right. And they killed also a lot. of the senior leadership. And this this. what we call a decapitation strike. And. the assumption is that if you kill the. leader then Iran would break out into. civil war and they surrendered to you. And this exactly what happened in. Venezuela uh a few months back. Right. So this what call decapitation strike. >> when they got Maduro. >> That's right. >> Yeah. And he was in jail with 69 which. is crazy. Um Okay. Yes. So but but it. didn't happen here. >> But it didn't happen here. Okay. So that. that's a first strike. Okay. So.

>> they tried it in Iran. They tried to the. decapitation strategy. Yes. But it. didn't break out in civil war. >> That's right. That's right. So now what. the UN does is it strikes back by. closing off the shumoose. >> Right. >> And but that's because they made a new. Ayatollah who took over. Who was that? >> The son. >> The son, >> right? So they. >> so many son. >> That's right. They replaced the kame. with the kam. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then what Iran did um close up. the first thing they did was close up.

sort of moves. and they start to attack. America's allies in the Middle East, including Qatar, uh, Dubai, Bahan, Kuwait. >> America did. >> No, Iran did. >> Okay. So, take me back a step. >> Okay. All right. So, the United States. does a decapitation strike. >> Got it. >> And then Iran punches back. How? By. putting pressure on America's allies. Right. They attacked Israel. They. attacked Dubai. They attack Qatar. The.

reason why they did that was the theory. that um these places give a lot of money. to the United States. They invest a lot. in the US economy. So therefore, they. have a lot of leverage over the United. States. If they're being attacked, they. would pressure Trump to end the war. >> Okay? And so once Iran did that, then. that forces the United States to. basically. have a ceasefire because if the war.

continues, then what would happen is the. entire world would lose at least 20% of. the global oil supply and this could. possibly create economic collapse. >> So So you're saying America had to take. a break then and rethink about what's. going on. >> Yeah. because the first strategy didn't. work. Got it. And the United States. didn't have a second strategy. >> and the straight of horm is closed at. this point. They closed it. >> The straight of whom moves is. >> I know at this point in the in the. latter. >> Okay. So throughout this entire process.

uh there's been a lot on on on and off. So sometimes it's open, sometimes it's. closed. >> Okay. So now what what the American. response is now to put more pressure on. Iran by trying to strangle the economy. Okay. So how the United States does that. is Iran ships 90% of its oil to China. Right? So what America did was impose a.

naval blockade. um in the Arabian Sea to prevent Chinese. tankers from reaching Iran and prevent. Iranian tankers from uh reaching China. >> So they wanted to stop the flow of oil. from Iran to China. That's right. And. that's how China gets most of its oil. >> Uh well well no that's China gets uh its. oil from a diverse um from many. different countries but Iran will export. 90% of its oil to China. And the theory. is that if you stop that trade, then.

Iran cannot pay its soldiers. Then the. soldiers would rebel. The government. would collapse. Okay. So that's the. second step. Okay. I I tried the. capation strike. Didn't work. So now. I'll try to strangle your economy. >> Got it. >> And that doesn't work either. >> Right. And so what happens now is that. >> why didn't that work? >> Because. um the Iranians have been under sections. for the past uh 30 years. So they are. used to being poor. Ah, >> right. Right. So, in Los Angeles, if um you.

know, we made gas $10 a day, well, there'll be riots. But in Iran, you. know, if you take take away half their. calories, well, they're used to being. poor. So, >> they're used to the sanctions. They're. used to living with a with a government. that's like manipulating them and taking. advantage of them. >> That's right. That's right. So. therefore, the Iranians are much more. able to bear pain than the American, right? And and so the American American. government now under Trump is under a.

lot more pressure to end this war than. the Iranians. >> Understood? >> Okay. So that's a second step and that. doesn't work either. >> So now you move to a third step which is. you destroy the state's capacity to. deliver basic services which means. water, food and electricity. So when. Trump says I will destroy their. civilization, what he's really saying is. I will destroy their power plants. >> Right? Because energy is a source of. civilization. Right? So the next step. that we can expect, which has not.

happened yet, uh but there are signs. that it will happen is the United States. will target its missiles at Iranian. power plants and deny electricity to the. local population. And the theory is that. if you do that, then people will not be. able to bear the pain and they will. revolt. revolt. Exactly. >> Wow. Yes. So that's man. >> that's a lot going on and you believe. that that's where we could be headed. there. >> We are very much heading in that. direction. Okay. So now what the. Iranians do in response is they activate.

their proxies. Okay. Why? Because the. proxies are now able to exert a lot more. pain on the global economy. Right? So. the arenas are able to close out the. moves. And their proxies who are they. say who their proxies are. >> in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and. then you have the militias, the Shia. militias in Iraq. >> Okay. >> Right. So the the the logic of this is. by closing off um the Hummus, Iran is.

denying the world the world 20% of the. global supply of oil. But now if the. Hooies are able to close off the uh back. El Manat straight, then that's another. 7%. So that's putting more pressure on. um the global economy. And now if. Lebanon is able to close off the uh Suez. Canal or put pressure on the on trade. over here, that's even more pressure. Right. >> That's a lot. >> Yeah. But but but as we can see this.

escalation ladder, it's coming up really. fast. >> Right. >> Right. And the real fear is that um the. Americans will be under so much pressure. that they use tact tactical nuclear. weapons against Iran. And then we could. be looking at nuclear war and. civilizational collapse. >> And that's World War II for sure. >> Uh no, it's end of civilization for. sure. >> Oh. >> yeah. >> Professor Jeang, what are we going to. do? >> Um do you believe in God?

>> Yeah, >> we're good then. [laughter]. That's a good point. Yeah. >> All right. Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. I'll see you on the other. side. See you in the big H. >> That's right. >> Dude, I heard that if you go to heaven, this is something I heard that's kind of. cool. Just to take a break from the war. stuff for a second. If you go to heaven, and thank you for explaining this and. thank you for discussing the escalation. ladder with us. Um, if you go to heaven. that when you get there, your friends. are there. Yeah. Right. All your friends. that you knew from here and your family, but they all like work in different.

places. So, you might go to like a. Jersey Mike's in heaven and your brother. or your ex-girlfriend could be working. there and once you lock eyes with each. other, you have memories of like things. that you knew from this period here. Yeah. >> But but it's brand new there. So, it's. like you get to go everywhere and find. your old friends and stuff. So, it' be. pretty cool. Like you could be somewhere. and like Frederick Douglas or whatever. could be a park ranger or Xihinping or. something could be he could be working. at an ice cream stand, you know? Yeah.

>> So, it could be kind of cool. Anyway, >> it sounds pretty cool. >> Yeah. So, just letting you in on a. little bit of uh BTS heaven lore. >> Great. >> Um it it would be impractical for. America to end up in a nuclear war. though. >> Yeah. I don't think it will happen. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, you don't think that will happen? >> I don't think it will happen. No. >> What stops that escalation ladder from. going uh forward? >> Yeah. Okay. So, again, we want to use. game theory and step back and ask. ourselves why this war is happening. Okay. >> Okay. Because once you figure out what. the motivations of the players are, then.

you can figure out how far this goes, right? Because the players are trying to. win and they're they're going to try to. win in a way that um is at least harmful. or the easiest way to win, if that makes. sense. >> Yeah, it does. Cuz it's kind of like. poker. So, say if I got an okay hand, I. might bluff a little in the beginning or. go in on a few blinds or something, but. I'm not going to probably raise it to. the end of the line because I know what. I have, right? Right? >> I'm going to wait for another hand. >> Right? So, so let's look at game theory.

and ask ourselves who are the major. players in this game and what do they. want? >> Okay. So, you have the United States, of. course, you have Iran, you have Israel, and I would say the fourth major country. is Saudi Arabia. >> Okay. And why are we even in this. conflict? >> That's right. And so, so we're trying to. figure this out. >> because that's been a big question in. America, especially amongst a lot of my. peers. Um, why are we there? Why are we. putting our troops there? doesn't seem. like we have a real interest. I know. there's the rumors of weapons of mass. destruction again. There's rumors of.

nuclear weapons held by by Iran. But uh. but I think people a lot of people um. feel like we've fallen for that trap. before. >> Yes. >> Uh in Iraq. >> Yes. >> Um and in Kuwait. >> Yes. >> And that that it could just be the same. sort of uh fool's errand again. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, it's a great question. like why did America um attack Iran. after the failures of Afghanistan and. Iraq?

>> Well, and also Trump, our president, said that we would not go to war with. Iran. >> That's right. That's right. So, >> yeah. What do you think's happening? >> Yeah. So, I want to refer you to you to. something called a clean break memo. Okay. >> Clean break memo. >> Yes. It's really important we understand. this if we understand what's going on. The clean break memo. Uh maybe your. producer can bring it up. The clean. break memo. uh written in 1996. Okay. >> Okay. >> And what and so let me give you some. background. So um Bill Clinton is on in. office and Bill Clinton is obsessed with.

peace in the Middle East and. >> because it rhymes probably. >> Probably. Yeah. Yeah. And the Israelis. have decided that now is a good time for. a two-state solution. And the reason why. is that throughout its history, um, Israel was always in conflict with the. other Arab nations around it because of. the Palestinian issue, >> right? >> And the idea is that if Israel is to. have security, it needs to resolve the. Palestinian issue, it needs to give the.

Palestinians its own state. And then and. then once that happens, then uh the Arab. nations can uh uh resume diplomatic. relations with Israel. they can trade. peacefully and the Middle East will be. prosperous and peaceful. Right. But you. first have to resolve the Palestinian. issue. >> because a lot of the Palestinians were. Muslim, right? >> That's right. >> And a lot of the surrounding areas are. also. >> Muslim around Israel are also Muslim. >> That's right. So they're sympathetic. towards the uh. >> they're kind Muslims. Right. So for. example, Saudi Arabia uh the royal.

family said that as long as the. Palestinian issue is not resolved, we. will never ever have peace with Israel. Okay. So this what we call the Oslo. peace process. >> Yeah. Yeah, the Oslo Accords, right? >> That's right. That's right. And um and. the majority of the Israeli population. was in favor of this. And the major. leader uh who are spearheading this. movement in Israel is uh Exac. >> What's the name? >> Uh Isak Ribbin. I'll spell it for you. Okay.

>> Isac Isaac. >> Isak Rebin. >> Rabbine. Isak Rabin. Yezak Rabbine. >> Yes. Okay. >> Rabbine. and he was determined to. um have eternal peace with the. Palestinians. So he resolved this issue. once and for all by giving them a state. >> Okay. >> So he and Clinton were aligned with. figuring this out. >> That's right. That's right. And they. also had Arafat to help them out as. well. And the and the Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were very. supportive of this process.

But there was one person who was opposed. to the peace process. His name is. Benjamin Netanyahu. and he assembled a team of people mainly. Americans. um who developed a new policy for him. called the clean break memo. >> Okay. >> And what the clean break memo says it's. a very short document only about one. page. What it says is screw peace. because our neighbors.

are Arabs and they only understand. power. So you want peace. You don't. negotiate. You don't compromise. You hit. them hard. You keep on hitting them hard. until they respect you. Okay. So there. are three major pillars to the strategy. called the clean break. The first is go. after pass. Don't give them land. Don't compromise. them. Teach them to respect you. Okay? Show power.

>> Make them afraid of you. Okay? That's. number one. Number two is you have to. rejuvenate the Israeli economy by. adopting neoliberalism. Forget socialism, let's go with. capitalism because at this time. socialism was very popular in Israel. And um the third thing is to establish. balance of power in the Middle East. >> Balance of power in the Middle East. And.

the way you do that is you destroy. regimes that could pos potentially. threaten you. This includes Syria and. this includes Iraq. And so the strategy. calls for working with Turkey and Jordan. to destabilize Syria and it calls for. for regime change in Iraq. Okay. >> Okay. It's called a clean break memo. >> Okay. A clean break, a new strategy for. securing the realm, commonly common. commonly known as a clean break report, is a policy document that was prepared. in 1996 by a study group led by Richard.

Pearl for Benjamin Netanyahu, then prime. minister of Israel. The report explained. a new approach to solving Israel's. security problems in the Middle East. with an emphasis on Western values, which that means I guess more of like a. capitalistic. >> That's right. That's right. >> It has since been criticized for. advocating a policy of removing Saddam. Hussein from power in Iraq. That's. right. and the containment of Syria by. engaging in proxy warfare and. highlighting its possession of weapons. of mass destruction. Certain parts of. the policies set forth in the paper were. rejected by Netanyahu. However, the.

report was ultimately adopted and serves. as a foundation for modern-day Israeli. global affairs. Is that true? >> Well, well, well, yeah. The the so so. something really important for us to. appreciate is. >> the study group. There were two major uh. participants in the study group. Richard. Pearl and al also Douglas Faith. Okay. >> Okay. Got it. >> Right. [clears throat] And this is. important because these two are. Americans. >> Mhm. >> And a few years later they will work for. the Pentagon. And uh Douglas uh Thief.

and Richard Pearl work with Paul. Wolfitz. And these three become the. architects of the Iraq war. >> Paul Wolfitz. >> Yes. >> Okay. So you're saying two of the people. that came up with the clean break memo. >> Yes. then went on to work for the. Pentagon. >> Yes. And they're the architects of the. Iraq War. >> Okay. So, they were architects of the. Iraq war. Here we go. Douglas J. Faith, an American lawyer who served as. Secretary of Defense for policy. Faith. has been described as an architect of. the Iraq war. In the leadup to the war, he played a key role in promoting the.

false claim that the Saddam Hussein. regime had an operational relationship. with al-Qaeda. um a Pentagon and. inspector general report found that. faith office had developed, produced and. then disseminated alternative. intelligent assessments on the Iraq and. al-Qaeda relationship um which included. some conclusions that were inconsistent. with the consensus of the intelligence. community uh to senior decision makers. Huh. The other thing about Douglas uh uh.

five is um he has been sus suspected for. a long time of being an Israeli asset. >> Okay. >> Uh but despite that, he was still able. to climb the hierarchy, which is very. weird because the FBI and the CIA uh. determined 1970s that he could possibly. be an Israeli asset. >> Wow. So that's interesting that he would. be that they thought that and then he. was still able to climb the ranks. >> Very interesting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> H. >> Yeah. But not not only him, but Richard. Pearl was also suspected of being an.

Israeli asset. >> Richard Norman Pearl is an American. political adviser who served as the. assistant secretary of defense for. global strategic affairs under Ronald. Reagan. Pearl was an architect of the. Iraq war. >> Yeah. >> Um he claimed that Saddam Hussein regime. possessed weapons of mass destruction. Okay. >> So, so we need to understand what the. clean break memo really is. Okay. And. what it really is is a blueprint for the. Greater Israel Project. And the Greater Israel Project is a. belief among um certain Zionists.

that the entire Middle East belongs to. Israel. >> And just to be clear, this isn't Jewish. people. This is we're talking about um. the Israeli government and extremist. views, right? >> That's right. It's not it's not. necessarily a Jew Jewish person. A. Zionist is someone who believes in. supremacy of Israel. >> Okay. So, a Zionist is someone who. believes in supremacy of Israel. Look it. up, Nick, because I hear the term. We. might have talked about it before. I.

We've probably talked about it before. some, but I don't know if you've ever. looked it up. Zionism is an. ethnocultural nationalist movement that. emerged in late 19th century Europe to. establish and support a Jewish homeland. What does ethnocultural nationalist. mean, Nick? Can you click on that? >> Um, it it it. Ethnocultural na ethnic nationalism is a. form of nationalism in which the nation. and nationality are defined in terms of. ethnicity. Uh. yeah what what does that mean? ethnic.

cultural nationalism. >> What what it really means is um there. are certain people Zionists who believe. that God promised this land to the Jews. and only the Jews and therefore only the. Jews should be in this land and. therefore the Palestinians have no right. to be there. Therefore, two-state. solution goes against the will of God. >> Got it. >> That's what it really means. >> Okay. Wow. But what about people who. just believe that Jew that that Jewish. people deserve to have their own place.

as well? Is that Zionism? >> So there are different forms of Zionism. Okay? >> And what I'm referring to an extreme. form of Zionism that has taken hold over. Israel. Okay? Because remember in the. 1990s everyone, the majority of people. were supportive of a two-state solution. They wanted peace with the Arabs. >> in 1990s. Is that true? Let's bring that. up. >> Let me see. In the 1990s, the Israeli. public was deeply divided rather than in. full agreement regarding a two-state. solution. While the signing of the Oslo.

Accords in 93 generated strong initial. hope and fluctuating majority support. for the peace process at various points, substantial portions of the population, including right-wing political factions, and the settler movement uh opposed. partitioning the land. Um so there was. some support for it. Um okay. Okay. So. you have this extreme so you have an. extreme group. Yeah. The the settlers. basically. >> Okay. So So the group you're talking. about is an extreme group that wanted. that want that that's supporting this.

clean break. >> That's right. >> Right. That was that wanted a greater. Israel. That's right. >> That's an extreme group. >> That's right. And they were led by. Netanyahu. Okay. >> Who became prime minister in 96. >> to implement the Greater Israel project. He's been in power for the past 20. years. And if you look at what's been. happening in the Middle East, >> right? um the Iraq war and then after. that the invasion uh and regime change. in Libya in Syria and now this attack. against Iran. It is consistent with the. clean break memo.

>> Got it. >> And what is amazing is that this. transcends. politics. Both the Democrats and. Republicans are participating in the. implementation of the clean brick memo. >> You mean American Democrats and American. Republicans are. >> right. That's right. So um it was George. W. Bush which launched the war against. Iraq, but it was Obama Obama who uh. supported regime change in Syria and in. Libya which is also part of the clean. clean memo. What what I want to do now. is show you a video. This this important.

we watch this video together. Okay. And. so um um the the the video is General. Wesley Clark and he's talking to Amy. Goodman. This is after 911. And so 9/11. was a traumatic event for Americans and. the assumption was that. uh the US military would seek vengeance. against the Taliban and al-Qaeda by. attacking um Afghanistan. But what. Wesley Clark says is no no.

we're not only going we're not just. going after Afghanistan, we're going. after seven countries. and let's listen to what he says. So, and so this is a but this how do we know. this isn't a consu is this a theory or. is this facts? That's what I'm. wondering. >> Oh, it's all facts. The clean memo is is. a fact. Um and Wesley Clark saying this. to Emmy Goodman. I mean, it it's on. YouTube. >> Okay. And this is US Army General uh. Wesley Clark, right? >> That's right. He's retired now. He's. talking to Emmy Goodman about what.

happens after 911. >> Okay. About 10 days after 911, I went. through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary. Rumsfeld and and Deputy Secretary. Wolawitz. I went downstairs just to say. hello to some of the people on the joint. staff who had used used to work for me. And one of the generals called me in. He. said, "Sir, you got to come in. You got. to come in and talk to me a second." I. said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "You've made the. decision. We're going to war with Iraq.". This was on or about the 20th of. September. I said, "We're going to war. with Iraq? Why?

He said, "I don't know." [laughter]. He said, "I guess they don't know what. else to do.". So, uh, I said, "Well, did they find. some information collect connecting. Saddam to Al Qaeda?" He said, "No, no.". He says, "There's nothing new that way. They've just made the decision to go to. war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's. like we don't know what to do about. terrorists, but we've got a good. military and we can take down. governments." And um he said, "I guess. if if the only tool you have is a.

hammer, every problem has to look like a. nail.". So I came back to see him a few weeks. later and by that time we were bombing. in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still. going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He said, he. reached over on his desk, he picked up a. piece of paper. He said, "I just" He. said, "I just got this down from. upstairs," meaning the Secretary of. Defense's office today. and he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're. going to take out seven countries in 5. years, starting with Iraq and then.

Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.". >> I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, I said, "Well, don't. show it to me.". >> So, you're saying that this is part of. the clean break memo? >> That's right. That's right. Because how. else can you explain what's going on? And again, this is um General Wesley. Clark has access to confidential. Pentagon information and he's saying. that right after 911, they've already. decided to go to war against the entire.

Middle East, finishing with Iran. >> And did we end up doing those things. right there? >> Yes, we did. Well, not not me. Not us. >> Yeah. No, not us. >> Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't involved, right? >> I'm chill. Yeah. >> I definitely Yeah. I mean, I have issues. with my neighbors sometimes because of. their dog or whatever, but. >> Yeah. Wasn't me, man. >> Yeah. Um, so but we've gone but but have. we done those things that they said in. that video and that that have we. attacked? Have we gone to war with those. places? >> Yeah. >> What was the places he listed?

>> So um Syria, >> right? That's done. Um Libya, um Iraq, um. >> was Somalia one of them? >> Yeah. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. >> So, Iran's the last on the list. It's his final boss. >> Final boss. >> That's right. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> A final boss. >> Oh, that's the Mike Tyson right there.

>> Yeah. >> Um, so and but why why do you feel like. so you you feel like America's working. at the behest of the Israeli government. of Netanyahu's choices? Well, >> like what do you think that relationship. is there? >> Well, it seems. >> Yeah, because because if this is true, then it would then it would say that. that that America's working at the. behest of of Netanyahu and some of these. other people who this is the what they. want, right? >> Or is this what we want? >> Yeah. So, again, there's a pattern here,

right? So, I I I'm not trying to make a. judgment. All I'm trying to do is point. out a pattern that's emerging where in. 96. >> um they they write the clean break memo. encouraging Netanyahu to choose a path. of war and dominance in the Middle East. and to clean break away from the Oslo. peace process and that's exactly what. he's been doing for the past 20 years. >> Okay. Um then these people spec. specifically Richard Pearl and Douglas F.

they go work for the Pentagon and they. help implement a lot of the clean memo. policies by starting a war against Iraq. for no particular reason and then for no. particular reason what happens Americans. attack Libya Sarah destabilize the. regime cost millions of refugees to flow. into Europe. >> and now we have this war in Iran and we. don't even know why Trump attacked Iran. even and you point this out like he. never he's been saying for a long time. that he would not do so. >> Yeah. >> So what's going on here? Right. Like if.

the United States was not doing this at. the behest of Israel, then how how can. we explain what's going on? >> Right. >> Right. Now what what I'll do now is use. game theory to explain why Israel would. want this. >> Okay. >> Right. Because so this is this this this. will be hard uh for Americans to. understand. All right. right for. Americans to understand. >> But like Wesley Clark says we need to. remove seven nations uh in 5 years and. they're doing that, right? Iran is the. final boss. >> and um the idea is there are Zionists.

who want to achieve the greater Israel. project and the idea of the general. project is that Israel will dominate the. Middle East and only if Israel does that. will Jews um have security in the Middle. East. >> Okay. >> Okay. But weren't they weren't they. secure before? Like I don't understand. why they weren't secure, >> right? So they weren't secure because. the Palestinians were in revolt against. them. The Palestinians felt that they.

were being oppressed, that their land. was stolen from them. And so they were. engaging in terrorist activities against. the Israelis, including bus bombings, including airplane hijackings. >> But why wouldn't Israel just figure that. out instead of go this other big route? It seems like, you know what I'm saying? It seems like if it's me figuring out. something with a neighbor as opposed to. battling the whole town, it would seem. like more at my behest, like a wiser. choice to just figure out something with. my neighbor. >> Right. Because you have a brother who's.

kind of crazy and your brother believes. that this house is not their house, it's. our house, >> okay? >> Uh which was stolen by by this other. family and so we have a right to go take. it back from them. >> Okay? And there's nothing you can do. about your brother. Netanyahu is the. crazy brother. >> basically. Yes. >> Okay. Got it. >> Right. And and and these are people what. we call the settlers, right? Okay. >> These are people who um go against. Israeli national law and go and. forcefully evict Palestinians from their.

homes. Even though this is against. Israeli national law. >> Yeah, there was I know there's a lot of. cases of that. You can see them on. YouTube too of people getting evicted. from their homes for no reason. People. taking people's land. Um, a lot of. heartbreaking stuff out there. Um, okay. So, now you're showing me what is this. you're looking at here. >> So, so let's just take what we know and. draw things to the logical conclusion. >> So, this is game theory. >> This is game theory. Okay. If you. believe that this land was given to you. by God and says says so, it says so in.

the Bible. Okay? And you believe that it. is Israel's destiny to dominate the. Middle East. Your real enemy is not. Iran, right? Who's your real enemy? >> The United States of America. >> Oh, the United States. >> Right. Because United States provides. security guarantees to many Arab. nations. Saudi Arabia is protected by. the United States. Um, and Saudi Arabia. is part of the Greater Israel Project. Egypt is protected by the United States. Israel, Egypt is also part of the.

Greater Israel Project. Right? So, what. you need to do is remove both Iran and. the United States from the equation. And. the best way to do that is to have them. go to war against each other, >> right? And then Israel is the last. nation standing. And then and then they. they achieved the greater Israel. project. But. >> that's this is game theory, by the way. >> This is game theory. >> Yeah. But how would you h like how would. America I mean our country is way over. here and I know that's like I know that.

doesn't mean everything that we have. this geographical space but how would we. like how would we be defeated in it? Well, we would be like the United States. would be defeated if this war becomes so. unpopular at home that the people revolt. and that's forces the American military. to retreat back to American uh borders. >> Okay. So then we would lose that war but. we wouldn't lose our country though. >> Uh no wait. Yeah. I mean the United.

States would wouldn't lose their country. but they would lose the empire. >> Yeah. >> Oh so we would we would completely. remove oursel from the Middle East. You're saying remove ourselves from all. of our allies and then Israel would have. the ability to control them. >> That's right. >> But why doesn't Israel just go control. them and not even involve us? >> Because um Saudi Arabia. um and the other nations of the Middle. East, they have a lot of money and they. invest trillions of dollars in the US. economy in exchange for US protection.

>> Got it. >> Yeah. >> Wow. H you know one thing that has scared me. and I've heard people a lot of people. talk about it was is like a lot of like. the technology and stuff that they that. that that was used in Palestine like. during a lot of the genocide over there. It's like drones being used to kill. people being used to kill children. We. had a doctor on who who was talking. about children getting shot just right. down through their bodies you know like. in a way that was like. it it seemed very logical that drones.

were the ones that were doing it. all. the reporters being killed there so that. nobody could transfer any real. information out of the out of the uh. world over there. Um one of those things. especially with the technology and then. you start to see the surveillance stuff. happening in America, it starts to make. you think well why wouldn't that why. wouldn't it come here? like if you know. like that's certainly a fear that I hear. a lot is that um that we're going to. become in this surveillance state and. then the same thing could happen to us.

over here if we're out of line with who. with um if Israel were to gain control. of America and then we're out of line. with something that they see or some. behavior or something um or they want to. move people here off of their land, you. know, it's it's that that's something. that's very scary. >> Yeah. As we look at Gaza, I I think Gaza. um is the uh pilot for a civilian state. >> You you think it's a pilot for what? >> For a surveillance state. >> Yeah. As a testing ground. >> That's a testing ground for for southern. state because like the theory is that.

once Israel achieves the greater Israel. project, it now needs to um control this. entire area and there aren't that many. Jews. Uh so it needs certain technology. in order to control the local. population. What what I think will. happen and this is going to shock a lot. of people is right now Israel is very. close with India and India the. population is booming and there's a lot. of young people and if you let if you. just let them stay in India they're. going to revolt against you because the.

economy is not doing so well but so what. if Israel and India were to get together. and says hey let's bring in millions of. Indians to work now in the Middle East. because war has destroyed the population. of the Middle East And now you can use. surv technology to control these Indians. and these the Indian people are used to. a cast system anyway. So the idea that. the Jews at the very top right and the. Indians are a working class like the. like um doing the labor and it's all. being controlled by technology. Well,

you would achieve the greater project. >> Wow. And do you think that's what's going on? >> I think that's the direction we're. moving towards. Whether or not they will. succeed, I can't really say, but I think. that's the plan. >> But the people certainly the people of. of Israel don't want to see all that. like. like they don't want to see so many. people get killed and that sort of stuff. happen. You think they want to? >> I think Israel may be heading towards a. civil war between two places. You have. Tel Aviv, which is the gayest city in.

the world. Very liberal, uh, very. cosmopolitan. >> You mean gays like people being gay? >> Like I mean like real gays, >> like men that hug each other like. >> Yeah. And and women can hug each other, too. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't know what you're. talking I if you using it like. hypothetical homosexuals. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Gays. Yeah. >> Sorry. >> Yeah. Just regular gays. Yeah. >> I didn't know if we were talking about. different, you know, a different branch. of gays or I didn't know what was going. on. >> Yeah. Like Yeah. Like just gays. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then you have Jerusalem. >> Yeah. >> Which is very conservative, very. religious. So these are two competing.

visions of um Israel. And unfortunately. the people in Jerusalem are the ones. with the power and they are extreme in. their religious vision. Okay. >> Yeah. I just Well, I know they have an. election coming up over there. >> That's right. They. >> And so that's I I I just feel like. is that going to determine a lot cuz. like I mean I feel bad for a lot of my. Jewish friends here who do not want to. be associated like you know it's. heartbreaking to them. You know my. friend Michael's always talking to me. It's like, you know, to make sure like.

to let like just because Israel doesn't. mean Jewish people. It doesn't mean like. it's the it's the government. >> That's right. >> It's so I want to use religion to show. you how extreme these people are. Okay. >> Right. So, um the Holocaust was a. traumatic event and 6 million Jews died. Let me ask you this question. Okay. Um. why did the Holocaust happen? The Holocaust happened I guess because. of an ideology that was created by. Hitler and his regime.

>> Yeah, it was Hitler's fault, right? Okay. So, the extremist Jews uh are called. capitalists. Okay. The Cabala. And um. they have an extreme vision of how the. universe works. And the deep dark secret. um that they have about the Holocaust is. the Jews deserved it. Okay, so let me. explain why. If you read the Bible, the. Bible uh the Old Testament basically is.

fundamentally about the relationship. between God and the historic people, the. Jews. And problems arise when the Jews. turn away from God. Um, so for example, when Moses was. leading uh the people from exile in. Egypt to the promised land, the people. chose to worship an idol and the first. commandment is do not worship false. idols. >> So God had to punish them by making them.

wander the desert for 40 years. Okay? And this is a consistent theme. throughout the Old Testament where Jews. suffer because they turn away from God. So the most most traumatic event in the. Bible is the destruction of the first. temple where the Babylonians come in and. they destroy the first temple. Now if. you read the Bible, the book is is. Jeremiah. What Jeremiah the prophet says. is the Babylonians are not the enemy of.

God. They are the tool of God to punish. the Israelites for turning away from. God. >> Okay? >> Right? So if you just extend the logic, then the logic is this. Why did the. Holocaust happen? Not because of Hitler, but because the Jews turned away from. God. >> And so there's groups that believe that. >> That's right. So um at this point in. history, the year is 1900 when Zionism. comes into being. Most Jews think Zionism is I'm.

a Jewish person living in Germany, living in United States, living in. England. I've assimilated into society. I'm I'm a professor. I'm a doctor. I'm. doing well for myself. I'm secular. Uh I. have lots of friends who are Christians. >> And what does secular mean? >> Secular means non-religious. >> Okay. >> Right. So it's like why would I go to a. desert. called Palestine? It's not even called. Israel. It's called Palestine where. there was already people living there. and it's like it's like literally a.

desert, right? So only about 3% of the. global Jewish population at this point. in history, the years 1900, actually. support the idea of Zionism. >> Okay? >> Right? So the Holocaust had to happen in. order to force the Jews to uh hold their. covenant with God because the Jews were. created as God's chosen people. They are. the light of nations. They are meant to. show uh true faith in God and therefore.

um uh be virtuous and be the the moral. uh guidance for the world. >> Okay. So they were chosen to be an. example of God. >> They're chosen to be the light of. nations. They're chosen to to be the. best representatives of humanity. >> Okay. Yes. Um so some so you're saying. that some like devout Jewish people. religious or an extreme this is an. extreme group believe that the Holocaust. was supposed to happen because um the. people in the Bible had turned away from.

uh had turned away from God. >> right? Is that what you're saying? >> So um. >> yes or no you're saying. >> um okay so let me clarify what they. believe the mission of the Jewish people. is. Okay. The mission of the Jewish. people is to return to Israel, create the greater Israel project, uh, which is the promised land, and then. build the third temple, um, which will be the house of God. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, the purpose of history is to.

force a reunion between the Jewish. people and God. And once that happens. then the world will end and we will be. in paradise forever. So there must be. three there must three things must. happen for this world to end. Okay. The. first thing that must happen is the. greater Israel project has to be. achieved and therefore we have these. wars in the Middle East. >> But why would that have to be achieved. if that was something that was just. developed 30 years ago?

Because according to these people, the. original covenant between the Jewish. people and God is that God promised them. the land stretching from the Nile in. Egypt to Euphrates in Iraq. >> Okay? As the covenant, okay? And the. Jewish people once they receive this. land, they must be loyal to uh God. So. for God to return uh first of all his. promise must be kept. Okay. >> Okay. So the first thing is the greater.

Israel project must be achieved. Second. thing that must happen is all Jewish. people must return to Israel and repent. Meaning if you don't believe in God, you. have to believe in God if you're Jewish. Meaning if you're homosexual, >> if you're Jewish, >> better tighten it up. >> You better you better like learn how to. like, you know, better figure it out. >> Yeah. You you know. >> Dang. >> Yeah. >> That's going to be a long day. >> Yeah. Yeah. uh start liking this man. So.

that's the third third second thing and. the third thing uh is the third temple. must be built because that's where God. will live. >> Okay, got it. >> But the problem is the site of the third. temple is now where the Alex mosque is. The mosque is the third holiest site in. the Muslim world. So if they destroy the. alic moss in order to build a third. temple, this would trigger a religious. war between Jews and the Muslims. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. So the these are three things that.

must happen according to the. esquetology. >> Okay. So but you're not saying that's. going to happen. You're just saying that. that if you look at that that's. according to what is that according to. >> that's according to um their esquetology. which is what they believe um how the. world ends and how we achieve heaven on. earth. >> But who believes that? Like my Jewish. friends, I don't think believe that. >> That's right. That's right. >> Wait, wait. What's right? They do. believe it or they don't believe it. >> They don't believe this. Um, this. theory. Okay. What I just told you, the. vast majority of Jewish people who are.

religious think this is heresy. >> Okay. >> This is madness. It's insane. Okay. The. problem is that this ideology. is promoted by secret societies around. the world. >> Okay? >> And secret societies control the world. And that's why we're seeing a lot of. things happen because how else can you. explain why the United States is. attacking Iran for no particular reason. >> I mean it's definitely look I think a. lot of people believe it. It's at the. behest of Israel. There's some. involvement there. But I think uh yeah I.

but after that it's like yeah you kind. of don't know why. A lot of it's just. like questions and you don't get a lot. of information sometimes like you know. you'll ask political figures and stuff. why are we so embedded here? And a lot. of them don't have an answer. Um, and so. I think that's the part that seems kind. of alarming. And I think that's also the. part when you don't get a lot of clear. information, >> that's when a lot of like conspiracy. theories, different ideas, um, uncertainties, ideas like this even.

start to take even more shape because. >> you don't know. You're not and you're. not getting information from people who. should know. So, I think it's like I do. understand how people can start to uh I. I I Yeah, it makes perfect sense how. people can start to believe things and. how people can start to look into things. because there's no place to get real. news anymore. There's no place to get. the information. >> Yeah. And you know, a lot of things that. are happening right now just defy human. logic. So, um everyone's looking at.

Donald Trump is like the war is lost. already. Just make peace with Iran. Just. get out of there. And what Trump is. doing is doing he's doing taco. Like one. day he's like, "We're going to end your. civilization." And the other day is. like, "Let's make peace, guys. Let's. just be friends." And the next day he's. like, "No, I'm going to nuke you now.". And next day he's like, "Oh, you know. what? Um, I didn't really mean that.". It's just weird. >> Yeah. It feels bizarre. It feels. pointless, but it matches with. everything feels bizarre right now. And.

I and and like the way that Trump is. behaving right now goes against his. character because in the 80s and 90s he. was a real estate developer. He was a. business person, right? He he understood. like if you do business you need to have. credibility. You can't flip-flop because. like everyone will be scared of you. >> I agree. That's actually a really good. point. I mean even when he was running. for office, it seemed like every other. thing it seems like he knows exactly. what he's talking about. It seems like. he knows exactly where he stands. So, it's this really weird situation where.

um how the United States is behaving in. uh the Middle East, it goes against. American interests and the way that. Donald Trump is behaving, it goes. against his character. He's never. behaved like this before. >> Um you you you spoke of you you. mentioned a little bit ago about secret. societies, right? Um can you take me. into some of that and how that and you. said that you believe that that's some. of what is controlling some of this. >> secret societies rule the world. Okay. So let me. >> you believe secret societies rule the. world. >> Yes. Okay. So let me explain why that's. the case. Okay.

>> All right. So the power in the world is. what we call transnational capital. Right. And transial capital all it means. is money that is able to move freely. around the world and invest where it. wants and extract profit from these. places. And so transial capital would. include pension funds. It would include. sovereign wealth funds. You want to. include uh private capital such as like. State Street, Vanguard, Wall Street, city of London.

>> China has a huge sovereign wealth fund. >> That's right. That's right. So Sovereign. So Capital is a huge entity and you know. they say money makes the world go. around. Okay. So Treasure controls the. um uh world and. >> so money controls the world you're. saying. >> basically. Okay. So um but but the. problem is that um treasure capital is a. game and. >> it's a game. >> It's a game game, right? Because you're.

trying to maximize your profit. You're. trying to beat others in the stock. market. >> And. in any game, there's a certain way to. win, right? And the answer and so like. how do you win every single game? Like. no matter what game you play, what's the. secret to winning every game? >> Get to the end. Uh the answer is you. cheat. >> Okay, you play by the rules. If you work. hard and you play fair, you're a sucker. Okay, to win the game, you have to. cheat. And the best way to cheat is to.

secretly conspire with others to wake. the game in your favor. >> Okay, and that's why we have secret. societies, right? Because to win the. game of capital, you need three things. First of all, you need access to secret. information. You need to know more. things than other people know. Second. thing you need is infiltration. You need. your people to go in the government in. order to create policies that favor you. The third thing is you need coronation, conspiracy between these different. groups in order to uh create an outcome.

that you want. >> Right? So um an example um is the. Rothschild family. And the Rothschild. family became one of the most powerful. banking families in the world because. they had a secret uh network of agents. scattered throughout Europe. So in 1815. Napoleon fights the battle of Waterloo. and um obviously he loses and the. Rothschild has an agent who witnessed. the battle. Then he sends this. information to back to England on a.

corvette which is a fast ship. Then what. happens is rumors spread that the. English lost the war and now there's. tremendous fear and. >> that wasn't true. It was not true that. they they won but but the first rumor. >> the agent got there and spread a rumor. >> Well well we don't know. Okay. But but. but but there were rumors that they lost. the war which created a panic and the. Rothschild were able to make a lot of. money doing that. Okay. And that's and. like this is very common and and so this. shows you an example of how information.

is crucial if you want to win the game. of trust capital. >> Got it. >> Right. And. >> so but but so the corvette got there but. the fast ship got there and and knew in. advance that. >> the Roth house knew in advance. >> the Rothsell knew in advance. >> the war that the battle had been won and. 3 days later official news came to the. British public tell them that the battle. had been won but during these three days. there's mass panic because rumors are. spreading that the battle has been lost. >> I see. So the Ross was able to.

capitalize on that panic financially. That's right. And so that's when people. started realizing oh we can do this. >> Right. Right. And so think about our the. world that we live in today, right? Where if you're if you have like one. minute of um confidential information, you're able to make millions, billions, right? So the question then is like how. do you access this information? Well, you do so through transnational. networks. And throughout history, there. have been three major transnational. networks in Europe. The first is uh the.

Freemasons. The second are the Jesuits. and the third are the Jewish diaspora. And at some point they figured out, why. don't we just work together? >> Oh, and what they call themselves. >> The Illuminati. >> Damn. >> Yeah, >> I heard about it. My black friends are. always talking about them, man. >> Yeah, the the Illuminati. >> Dang, they got us. The Illuminati. And. it is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name usually refers to the Bavarian.

Illuminati, an enlightenment era secret. society founded on May 1st, 1776 in the. electorate of Bavaria. Um, the. Illuminati along with Freemasonry and. other secret societies were outlawed. through edict by Charles Theodore. Uh, in the subsequent use, Illuminati has. been used when referring to various. organizations alleged to be a. continuation of the original Illuminati. These organizations have often been. accused of conspiring to control world. affairs by masterminding events and. planting agents in governments and.

corporations in order to gain political. power, influence, and establish a new. world order. Dun. >> I mean at the end of the day, if you if. Trev controls the world, you need. societies to win the game. >> Got it. So there's so so in addition to. there being countries, there's these. different countries. >> They're above countries, >> but they're above countries. Wow. And so. they'll have members of different. countries that are in partner that are. part of them. >> So think of Jeffrey Epstein, right? So. everyone's thought that Jeffrey Epstein. was a Mossad agent. He was above Mossad.

>> Wow. >> Dang. >> Yeah. >> Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein is. still alive? >> Um I don't think he's alive. >> Yeah. Because. >> do you think he died in the jail cell? >> I Yes. Yes. Yes. Because he he's. expandable. >> Yeah. >> What is the basic code do you think of. the Illuminati? Do you think they have a. code? Um that's a great question. Okay. So once you have these secret societies, you have to remember like secret. societies are just a natural outcome of. the game of transial capital. So you.

have like many many different secret. societies in in place. And so which. societies have the most have the. greatest advantage? And the answer is. uh those who practice esquetology have. the greatest advantage? >> Esquetology, >> right? Estology is the belief. uh in that God will end the world at. some point. >> Okay. And so why are you so why is it. that esquetological societies are.

superior to other societies? And the. reason why is they're able to channel. the religious energy of millions of. people. So look at so why we're having this war. in the um Middle East. It's not just. secret societies. It's also the fact. that you have tens of millions of. Christian um Zionists, Christian. evangelicals who support Israel, >> right? So if you're you're an investor, there are three ways to make the most.

money. The first is war, second is. revolution, and the third is religion. So these two studies through the. esquetology always supporting war, revolution and religion because if. you're if you're millionaire well you. invest your money in stock market but if. you're a trillionaire you invest your. money in war, revolution and religion. >> Wow. >> But don't you do do you have do you. think that sometimes it's kind of a d. like is it like if you if you think of.

it all like that, right? Doesn't it feel. pretty dark? It is uh dark. But once you actually. study the esquetology, once you study. the religion, it actually gives you. hope. Um because what motivates uh these. people is not greed. Um it's not um. power, it's faith, it's they're. accelerationists. They believe that God. has a divine plan and all I'm doing is.

helping God accelerate this plan. >> Wow. Oh my gosh, dude. What the heck? So, this is so that's part of some people's. faith. They believe they have a strong. enough faith that they believe that what. they're doing is helping to accelerate. it. >> That's right. [sighs]. >> Oh my gosh. I don't even know what to. think anymore. >> And that's why things are happening so. fast, >> dude. It does. It does. It Yeah, it. feels like things are happening so fast. >> Yeah,

>> that's it's just like what is h it's. happening so fast. >> Yeah. So, how does this end? [laughter]. >> I mean, that's kind of dark. But, um, >> maybe we just leave it to be continued, you think? >> Yeah. >> Well, we can pray that that doesn't. happen because we don't know that. That's We don't know that's going to. happen, right? >> They put their faith in God. We should. put our faith in God. >> Amen. >> Yeah. That's where my faith is. >> Yep. >> In Jesus name, man. Amen, brother. We. just have to keep our faith where we. can. And we can we control what we can.

control. And it's always if if that's. the case and it's always been part of. something. >> Yes. >> You know, and it's like all we can do is. do just do what we can and try our best. by our own compass, right? >> That's right. >> Amen. That's right. Amen. >> Yeah. [snorts] Jesus. Believe in Jesus. >> Yeah. Amen. >> Um you are you're Chinese? >> I Yes. Thank you. I asked. >> Okay. Sorry. I just making sure I didn't. know. I don't know for sure if you are. or not. Um what what's what's ch some. people have has anybody ever said they. thought you were a plant that you they.

thought you. >> Oh yeah yeah absolutely what do you get. okay so now and then. >> because you'd be a good Chinese asset. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well there are people who. believe I'm the antichrist. >> There are people who believe that I'm in. my Chinese classroom with my whiteboard. and my my my whiteboard is magical. So I. can actually like direct the course of. human events with my with my whiteboard. I'm just there and I'm just like I want. war and I want you know and I'm like. like I'm not the antichrist. Okay. All. right. I swear to you I'm not the. antichrist. Okay. I might be a Chinese. spy but I'm not the but I'm not the.

antichrist. >> Okay. >> Speaking of that, speaking of China, what is China's relationship right now? Where do they play a role? Cuz you. didn't factor them into this at all. >> Yeah. China China looks at what's. happening and they're like, "What the. is going on? What the hell are you. guys doing?". That's that's China. >> Do you think that they're hyper worried? Do they have a lot of like um do they. have a lot of intelligence assets that. are over here working in that are. working in the Middle East? What do you. think's going on? I'm sure cuz they. obviously they're a world power. They're.

going to have they're they're going to. be concerned and involved. >> Yeah. So, the problem with China is that. Chinese are non-religious. So, it's. almost impossible for Chinese to. appreciate what's happening in the uh. Middle East. >> But they're capitalists though. uh. they're they're capitalists and they. want this war to end as soon as possible. because they want people to trade with. each other. Uh. Chinese don't go to war, they they. trade. Um and so everyone in China is.

just completely confused, >> but historically China they've been. they've there's been war in China. >> Well, there's war um within China, but. China doesn't really go out and invade. other countries um the way that you know. the United States does. So, what is. America's current relationship with. China? Do you feel like I've I've had. friends recently say that they think the. safest place to move in the world right. now is China? >> Yeah, I think I think that what's. happening is a domino effect where the.

war in the Middle East spirs out of. control and it engulfves everyone. So, um. >> like a World War II. >> Yeah. And it's like total war. >> And what would the sides be? um it'll be complete chaos. Um so the. idea is that the war the world will. break out into into regional wars. So. imagine in uh Europe NATO is fighting. Russia in Ukraine, right? And uh there's.

a possibility that Russia may take over. the Baltic countries, Latvia, uh Luania, Estonia, and maybe even. attack Poland. Okay. So, imagine all of. Europe is now in flames. You move over. to the Middle East and everyone's at. each other's throat, right? You move. over to East Asia. What the most likely. scenario is that China is in conflict.

with Japan and North Korea is in. conflict with South Korea. The real danger in East Asia is not. China. It's actually North Korea because. North Koreans have abely nothing to. lose. They're kind of crazy and they're. brave. So North Koreans have been. sending soldiers to fight in Ukraine and. they fight to the death. >> Is that true? >> Yeah. 10,000 North Korean troops in. >> 10,000 North Korean troops in Ukraine. right now. >> Uh yeah, in Ukraine. That's right. And. they fight to the death. And the reason.

why is they're captured. Their family. members back in North Korea. >> get killed. Yeah. >> No way. >> Welcome to a dictatorship. >> North Korea continues to expand its. military support for Russia in the war. against Ukraine. In addition to sending. troops and weaponry, Pyongyang is now. said to have deployed a missile unit to. western Russia. Wow. By the end of 2024, Ukraine, the United States, and the. South Korea estimated that around 10,000. to 12,000 North Korean soldiers have. been sent to Russia. And that's just.

2024. >> That's right. So they're trying turn the. number to 30,000. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Unbelievable. Um, I've heard you. talk about the grand bargain. >> Yes. [clears throat]. >> With China and that's between America. and China. >> That's right. >> Tell me a little more about that. >> Right. So, there are two nations that. currently benefit the most from the. current global economic order. They are. the United States and China. Um, the. United States obviously because it. controls the US dollar, but but China as. well because China was able to lift. millions out of poverty because of.

global trade, >> right? So both are heavily invested in. maintaining the current global order. And so the idea of a grand bargain is. that they uh resolve the Taiwan issue uh. where basically China. um and Taiwan sign an agreement. Oh. >> Where they reconcile politically and the. United States withdraws from uh East. Asia and allows China to maybe dominate.

um East Asia. Okay, understood. So that. allow so that's something that China. would want probably just a little bit. more assurance that there's that they. don't have to deal with America over. there. >> That's right. But but but also like for. China, Taiwan is a huge political issue. because uh you know there's something. called a century of humiliation where. China was carved up in the 19th century. by the Russian powers. >> and having Taiwan back uh in the fold of. the motherland would be a tremendous. political achievement because it would.

mean the reunification of the. motherland, the completion of the. motherland and that's that's something. that China would pay a huge price for. And right now, uh, the United States. needs China to buy more US treasuries. So that's the idea of the grand bargain. >> Got it. What do you think's going on with. America right now? Do you feel like. we're still, uh, the world's economic. superpower? >> Um, it's an empire in decline. Um, it's. like I'm just walking the streets of Los.

Angeles. and. um, it really seems that America is on. the brink of a civil war and. >> really you think that? >> Yeah. >> How would that happen though? >> Yeah. I I think that u the midterms will. be a major test of the cohesion of this. country. Um, and what I think um may. happen is Trump may may go for a third. term.

>> No way. How could he do it? Can't you. only go for two terms? >> So, according to the Constitution, there's something called the 22nd. Amendment, which says that um a US. president may not sit for more than two. terms. But there's a loophole. The. loophole is imagine 2028, Dawn Jr. is at the top of the ticket and. Donald Trump is the vice president. They win and then uh Don Jr. he resigns.

and then Donald Trump is now the. president again. >> No way. You think that you think that's. going to happen? >> I think there's a strong possibility. this could happen. But also there's the. War Powers Act where America's at war. and so they suspend the Constitution. which is what happened in Ukraine. >> That's why Ukraine could not have an. election, >> right? because they're at war. >> And if they could have an election, would they still elect Zalinsky, do you. think? >> Probably not. >> Got it. >> Yeah. >> There's a lot of there's a lot of. darkness out there. >> Yeah.

>> Um, what are some positives that you. see? What are things What's a positive. way that you see out of some of this? And please have an answer for me, Professor. >> Yeah. Family, love, God. I mean, that's. why we're here. We're here to experience. things that we couldn't experience. anywhere else because we're eternal. souls. Like once you appreciate that um. this is only what the thing that we're. experiencing here is only a journey in a. eternity of experiences and that we're. here to experience things that are. unique to this world. And one thing.

that's unique to this world is family. like having children. >> Um so. >> and love. >> And love. Exactly. >> Hugging somebody. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. Doing your best. Yeah. >> Being supportive. Sharing. So, so if you. just focus on what's happening. geopolitically, you go insane. You. literally go insane. >> Are you insane yet? >> Um, I have a family, >> right? So, and I I have a I have a wife. who um who who loves me. So, I I I want. to tell you.

>> um the story of how my wife and I met. and then and you can appreciate how much. we love each other. Okay. >> Okay. So, >> we met each other about 10 years ago and. I'm about 40 and this is like the. darkest moment in my life. what was. going on? >> Well, I was unemployed. Um, I had no. place to stay and I was depressed and I. felt that life was hopeless. And I I. literally believed that my wife was an. angel sent by God to redeem me, to save.

me, to show me that love is possible. So. that one day I could be sitting across. from you telling the world that love is. um possible. And if we just move towards. love, then we will redeem the world. But. but so I meet this my my wife randomly. and we go on a first date. And. >> where did you meet her at? >> Um I I met her randomly at at an event. Okay. >> And it was like love at first sight. And. I and I you know I asked for her number. I called her out. And. >> and the if you ask for it, God will give.

it to you. And I was asking for someone. uh who could be my wife. I I wanted to. start a family. And so we go on on this. date and I I took her someplace really. nice in Beijing, we go to a Japanese. restaurant. I order sake and it's a. lovely um date. Now the custom in China. is that on the first date, if you really. like someone um the woman will. will get serious suddenly. Okay, I mean.

you could be laughing throughout, but. suddenly the like the woman will get. really serious, look at you dead in the. eye and ask you. how much money do you make? Like what's. the size of your bank account? >> Really? That's a ser that's a real thing. that happens. >> Yeah, because in United States you like. like you know they'll ask you what what. your your dick size is, right? >> Yeah. >> Well, we're more advanced civilization. so we ask like how much money you have. >> Got it. Okay. So, okay. And like I'm. really afraid we reach this point, right? So, this date is going fantastic.

We're two hours and we're just laughing. We're connecting. We're some paddico and. then. the uh my date my my future wife gets. serious looks at me dead in the eye and. I'm freaking out. I'm trembling. I'm. nervous because like. >> cuz you don't have a job. >> I don't job, man. >> Yeah. >> And so she looks at me in the eye and. she asks me, "So, are you gay?" Oh, and I and I I I felt.

such relief. I knew she's the one, man. She gets me, [laughter]. >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't care if I'm. poor. She just cares if I'm gay. >> Yes. I can work with that, you know? >> Yeah, dude. Of course. >> Yeah. >> But, but it's like these moments that. make this world so wonderful and so. blessed. So, we should just focus on on. on moments like like this. >> Yeah. Yeah. moments where people are. asking if you're gay or not. >> Yeah. Well, it's better than asking for, you know, your thick size or, you know,

your bank account. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. For sure. I think Yeah, it is. better than asking what how much money. you make. >> Yeah. >> I'm so happy that you that you found. that you got somebody. >> cuz you were 40 and you didn't think you. were going to have someone. >> That's right. [clears throat] I I I. thought that I I was my life I I was a. drift. I thought that life was. pointless. >> What were you doing? Were you living at. home? >> No, I was like literally living uh from. uh place to place with my suitcase. I. had no place to live. Uh I was. unemployed. >> Don't they give you a job in China? Like. tell me a little bit more. What is it.

like in China? Like. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, so I went to China to. work as an education reformer. So I I. believe like the best way to build a. good future. >> But you were you grew up there? >> No. No. So So my background is um I was. born in China, but when I was six, I. moved over to Canada and and that's. where I grew up. Then I went to Yale. University. >> Dang. Cool. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then um I went back to. China to help reform the school system. >> I love Canada, man. Did you live in. Winnipeg?

>> No, I lived in Toronto. >> Oh, dang. Yeah. I'm hoping my friend. Diego Pave goes up there and plays for. Canada. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> like, you know, Canada's really cool, but you know, we're we're a bit slow. We. have five years of high school rather. than four. Yeah. You know, so so you. know, our IQ is a bit lower than than. the Americans, but. >> you guys have great posture up there. Can Canada has some of the best posture. in the whole world, I've noticed. Um. that's something that I've noticed. Um, okay. So, you end up back over there in. China. Um, but yeah. Is it like do you. hear a lot of stories that like people. can only have one child? Like what are. some of the policies that are true over. there that we hear about?

>> Well, you know, the one child policy was. uh true for a long time, but then um. Chinese were aging and there were not. enough children to support the elderly. So they um and then the birth rate was. declining and so they promoted policies. um to encourage more fertility and now. you can have as many children as you. want. >> Nice. >> But but but I mean the reality is like. most young people do not want to have. children. It's a situation I mean it's a. similar situation throughout the world.

like in United States young Americans. don't want to have children. Europeans. are the same same way. Right now the. fertility rate in East Asia uh in North. in South Korea I think it's 0.6. Uh in China it's 1.0. In Japan it's like. 1.2 1.3 but it's really low. >> World population prospects the United. Nations publisher. What chart is this. Nick? Can you tell me? >> Yeah it's uh I think this is world. fertility rate. >> In 1963 it was 5.3 births per woman and.

now it's 2.2 births per woman. Huh. That's wild. And China has. 1.0, one birth per woman. >> Yeah. >> And wait, who has that big? Go to the. top and hit the tops. Chad, uh, Congo, they have six births per women. Niger, uh, Mosmbique, five births for women. >> So, my wife has seven college roommates. There's eight in her dorm.

>> And, uh, we have three kids. >> Oh, you guys have three kids. We have. three kids. >> And I met your one son, Christopher. He's here today. >> That's right. That's right. Yes. >> And um so she uh they're in their 30s, which is a prime age to have um children. and collectively they have three kids. >> Yeah. >> So So it's not happening. >> No, it's not happening. Yeah. >> Um we've looked at some stuff today. that's that seems kind of der, but it's. also interesting, you know. Um do you.

think that peace is an option? And how. would we get there? Do you feel like. like what has to adjust? >> I think that for the longest time we've. trusted our leaders to um. >> I agree with you. >> and we thought they had our best. interest. >> That's right. That's right. And in fact. it's controlled by secret societies and. they're crazy people who want to achieve. their esquetology and it's time for us. to wake up and if we collectively wake. up then we will achieve peace in this. world. But waking up is a hard process.

Yes. As you know, right, it's a very. hard process. It means going against. social conventions. It means defying all. that you've been taught. It it means. losing a lot of friends and family in. the process. Have you suffered from uh even speaking. out about certain things and like have. you like had any issues like come your. way? Have you ever fear fear for your. safety? Have you had people that have. spoken up against you or like what's. that what's that been like for you? >> Yeah. So, um, one thing that I think a.

lot about is what are the consequences. for telling the truth, for speaking up, for drawing attention to societies. And. here's my logic. I think that these. people get to where they are because. they are uh they really do believe in. God. But the God they believe in may not. be the God that we believe in, right? But they really do believe in God. And. they really believe that what they're.

doing is doing God's will and they're. accelerating events that were. uh predestined by God since the. beginning of time. And so I present a paradox to them. because I seem to know their plans, right? Mhm. >> And so, um, if I don't get their plans. correct, then I'm an idiot and they can. just ignore me. But if I'm able to. articulate their plans,

then how am I able to know all this? Because I'm not part of the societies. I'm I don't know any of these people, but at the same time, I know how they. think and I know uh what their plan is. So, they can't resolve this paradox. So. they the only they can do is ignore me. I'm calling dissonance. >> Does that make sense? >> Right. If they were to come for you, then it would prove that there's. something true about their plan. Is that. what you're saying? >> No. If they So in their mindset, if the.

only way I could know their plan is if. God told me their plan, >> but they think that they're doing God's. work. So, how do they explain the fact that. >> they're God's telling them what to do, but also God's telling me to tell the. world. >> that their plan's bad, >> what what the plans are. >> So, they're like, "Well, we don't know. how to resolve this. So, let's just. ignore this guy.". >> Yeah.

>> Do you uh. >> Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. One more. point is the idea of um. >> um it so there's a theory out there. >> that um a lot of these societies they. reveal to you what their plan is and the. reason why is. um let's just say they screw up and they. blow up the world and we're all go to. heaven and then God asks hey so what. happened how did you blow up the earth?

Um, well, most of us would be like, "We. didn't know what was going on." Right. >> Right. So, they get all the blame. But. let's just say they tell us their entire. plan. >> Oh, right. >> Then it's all of our faults. >> Then it's our fault. We're complicit. >> in our own destruction. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, maybe I'm a useful tool. Maybe I'm a useful idiot. >> who mysteriously is able to decipher. their plans. I'm telling telling them. the world what's happening. But the. secrets are like that's cool with us. because now if everyone knows what's.

happening and they do nothing, everyone's complicit. >> Ah, >> and so. yeah, >> we've all come become very complicit. with things being okay. >> Yeah. >> Is it the same in China? >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. >> It's kind of heartbreaking sometimes. It's like. >> I don't know what happened. I don't know. if there's been like this a slow. sedation. >> Yeah. >> I can't tell what occur what has. occurred. I can't tell if you know I. don't know. It all just feels like we've. lost some of our.

>> The great truth is that we're all. spiritual beings. >> We are first and foremost spiritual. beings. That's true. >> But materialism has corrupted us. >> We should be focused on our spiritual. well-being, on our consciousness, on. elevating ourselves, on being generous, on being open, on being on being. spiritual. And now we live in a world. where money is everything. So we just. pursue. u materialism, >> right? We're so Yeah. You're so focused.

your whole life and it's all built. towards this. You got to go to school to. get a grade, to get a a college, to get. a job, to get a thing, and then get from. a and to get a house. There's everything. is like the next carrot. It's always. something. >> We are in the matrix. Yeah. >> And we have to wake up. >> Wow. Dang. We are in the matrix. Hello. We're in. here. We want out. Whoever's seeing us, we want out.

Um, we're in an interesting spot, it. feels like, with um Oh, was that CERN. accelerated? Did that have anything to. do with how time has been adjusted, do. you think, or No, do you see anything. about that? I. >> I don't know much about it either. Okay. Yeah. >> Um, >> one thing I I wanted to ask you before. you leave, uh, financially, you've. talked about um, about the transnational. >> capital. >> capital. >> Yeah. >> What would you do with money or assets. right now? Like what do you feel like. the future of that could look like? Have. you thought about that much?

>> Yeah. So, I think that the world is. heading towards financial collapse. Um, and it's pretty clear with the AI. bubble, right? where, you know, they're. building uh these data centers and it's. really uncertain how they will make. money out of these data centers and it. really seems the a a bubble is going to. burst and uh it really seems that um the. United States is heading towards. financial collapse.

and and so I think that you know trying. to figure out where to put your money. it's it's a dead end. You have you have. to think about how do I lift my. consciousness so that I'm ready to help. myself as well as others in a time of. crisis. >> Ah okay. >> Right. So what could I create right now? What could I start to have around me or. what knowledge could I start to have? >> Yes. >> Cuz if the grid goes down suddenly. you're just back to your own knowledge. >> That's right. >> And dude a lot of us if we had to go.

back to our own knowledge bro. >> Yeah. would be bunk. >> Yeah. We're we're dead. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> but it will be exciting. >> Yeah. >> But I do think you're right. It's like. what skills would you have? What can you. apply? How could you help someone? What. could you offer? >> Yeah. >> And in a weird way, man, >> I feel like it's almost what we could. use the most. Is that scary to say that? >> Look, I I think that what you do um. telling jokes is exactly what we will. need in a time of crisis. >> We we need in a time of darkness to see.

the light. And laughing is the best way. to see it to see the light. >> Yeah. Yeah, man. Telling stories, being. a part of joy, sitting around, people. laughing. That's my favorite thing. >> That's right. >> Yeah. Sometimes I got lost, I think, on. just like what was important, you know, >> the past few years. It's been fun. I've. been having a good time, but some of. it's just been like Yeah. I don't know. You get you get you get focused and you. kind of you don't lose yourself, but you.

you feel a little disconnected from. yourself, you know? Yeah. So, you know, I work in school uh reform. >> and what my theory is that a school. should be centered around laughter. because if kids come into class. laughing, >> Yeah. >> they learn the best. They're engaged. They're excited. So, uh there was a. science experiment uh many years ago uh. called. >> a scientific experiment. >> Yeah. Yeah. Called Laugh Club. Okay. And. >> so this Indian doctor all he did was.

bring in people together at a park. >> and just laugh together and laughter and. laughing is infectious right? So if. someone's laughing other people are. laughing. >> Yeah. >> And um he just asked people to pretend. to laugh like haha. But what was magical. is like once you start to pretend to. laugh and other people are laugh as. well. People start to laugh naturally. >> Yeah. And what he discovered is people. who participate in laugh club every. morning, the kids would go to school and.

pay more attention in class. >> Wow. >> The um adults would go to work and have. less stress and the um elderly would uh. be much more resilient against disease. They recover from disease faster. Yes, it's called Laugh Club. The Laughing. Club of India usually refers to Mera. Nars short documentary about Mumbai's. early laughter club movement, not a. single exclusive organization. The film. follows groups who meet often in parks. to do stretching, clapping, breathing. exercises, and deliberate group laughter.

as a social and stress relief practice. The movement was begun in Mumbai in 1995. by physician Dr. Madan Qataria. Its. earliest meetings used, but participants. quickly shifted to laughter exercises. when the jokes ran out. Huh? >> This is a movement you should start. United States. >> Amen, bro. We need some things. We need. to feel inspired. And And I don't mean I. don't even mean you, whoever's. listening. I mean me. >> I mean, yeah, there's just I don't know. I'm glad we're talking about it today. I.

do feel like there is an awakening in. some ways. And I do feel like yeah, we. have been stuck in this matrix. Um. uh I've heard you talk before you leave. and thank you so much for your time. today. >> No, it was great. Fantastic. Really. cool, man. Thank you. You know, I came. with purpose, which which is tell the. joke about my wife and like the gay. joke, and I've done that. So, I'm I'm. I'm good. [laughter]. >> Okay. Good. >> Yeah. >> Uh I've heard we a lot of what we. consume nowadays is very um there's huge. filters on it. It's like the information. that we get, what's allowed to come.

through. Um you know, I think we saw. that after like the a lot of information. came out about Gaza. It's like now I. don't see many videos about it anymore. Yeah. I think a lot of it just, you. know, um there's a lot of strongholds on. who has who who is letting information. through to us. >> That's right. >> Uh how do you I've heard you talk about. a propaganda test before. What's a. propaganda test that you use to know if. something is propaganda or not? >> Yeah. So, um I think what's really.

important is um for people to make. predictions. Um because whenever we uh say something, we're we're we're making certain. assumptions about the world. And so the. way for us to know if the way we. understand the world is correct or not. is by extending the logic and making. predictions about how the world should. turn out. And if it doesn't turn out the. way that uh we predicted then we should. just reflect on on how we think and make.

changes to ourselves. And I think the. the greatest problem in the world that. we have today is gatekeeping. There's. too much gatekeeping in media. There's. too much gatekeeping in academics. So. for example, I'm not really a professor, right? I I not I'm not a professor. >> I'm a high school teacher. >> Okay. >> I don't have a PhD, right? So, so just. for. um yeah, just be for honesty. Okay, but. that's just gatekeeping like where where. you know if you're not a college. professor, you don't you don't have a.

PhD, you're not a specialist, you're not. you don't get get to be called a. professor. Okay, so there's just too. much gatekeeping going on. I I think. that what's one way to improve our. society is if experts are forced to make. predictions because now we know. >> how good their knowledge set is. Right. >> Ah, >> right. And now it's democratic. Now, now. it's not just like you're Harvard PhD. and therefore you know what you're. doing. No, no, it's like you you are. >> show your work. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Show your work, right, >> bro? I like that. Yeah, let's be.

democratic. >> Yeah. A basketball player, it's like you. don't just believe he's good if he tells. you. That's right. Or you believe he's. good because he went to a lot of. basketball camps. He's got to go do it. >> Look, look at co, right? I mean, during. CO, they were roll out these vaccines. >> Oh, dude. Anthony Fouch is a it dude. that does it. Look, look, look. And he. and he he was like, "How dare you. question the science? We know better uh. than uh than you. We we have your best. interest at heart. Just obey us. Trust. the science, bro.".

>> Yeah. >> And that was it. And it's like, "Okay, fine. Show me the science because. [laughter]. >> you know, show me.". >> I know. >> It's the Matrix, man. >> Yeah. >> I'm glad we got to meet at least here in. the Matrix. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well Well, everything. happens for a purpose. Yeah. >> You know, and like you know, I really. respect what you do. You bring truth to. the world through through laughter and. that's really the most powerful way of. communicating. >> Well, thank you, uh, Professor Young. Um, I appreciate it. Yeah, I just.

appreciate that. Like, it's just. interesting. I think one thing that is. great about social media and, uh, and. technology is just the different, um, people that you can, uh, bear witness. to, you know, and different people that. can get their voice out there. And I. think it's great that you've developed a. voice for yourself. Um, what do you what. do your students think about it? What do. they what do they think about it in. China? >> Um, so. >> are you more popular here than in China? >> I'm way more popular here than in China. People think I'm absolutely insane in in.

China. Uh, >> why is it because you're brave? You put. yourself out there. Is that a thing that. doesn't happen very much in China where. people kind of put like. >> Yeah. Um, so I I think that a lot of. things I say are dark. >> Oh, yeah. >> And so they uh would rather be ignorant. >> Oh, I see. >> Ignorance is bliss. >> Yeah. Oh, it is, man. I used to be so. ignorant, dude. And I was doing. great. >> Yeah, >> absolutely. >> I was doing great, dude.

>> Yeah. But you know, once you achieve. full knowledge, you'll do even better. Oh, >> I don't I'll never get there. But. [gasps]. >> yeah, a little bit at a time, man. >> It's always about the journey. >> Yeah. >> It's always about the journey. Yeah. >> Yeah. And yeah, connecting with the. people that you love. That's what God. put us here for. That's why we're here. >> That's right. Family. >> We're here to have experiences that mean. something. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Um, Professor Jang, thank you so. much for your time today. Uh, travel. safe. How do you say goodbye in Chinese? >> Zen. >> Yes. Okay.

>> Zen. >> Okay. Now I'm just floating on the. breeze and I feel I'm falling like these. [music] leaves. I must be corner stone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll. share this piece of mind I [music]. found. I can feel it in my bones. But it's going to take.