PBR's Jess Lockwood and Matt West | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #261

I am so grateful that you're here and. I'm very excited about today's guests. first I'm gonna let you know that I will. be coming to Oroville casino. this coming Saturday February 15th had. sold out Toronto Ontario. February 20th through the 22nd there are. still tickets available for the 20th. February 27th in Red Bank New Jersey the. 28th in Oxon Hill Maryland February 29th. at the Newport News Ferguson Center for.

the Arts in Virginia and now March 7th. in Maui Hawaii at the castle theater. those tickets will go on sale on Tuesday. of this week I'm so excited about. today's guests. one is the 2017 and 2019 professional. bull riding world champion he's on the. circuit right now defending his title. he's 22 years old mister Jess Lockwood.

and also joining us is the host of the. Matt West now podcast he is the voice of. professional bull riding. PBR announcer Matt West and you can see. professional bull riding this coming. weekend at AT&T Stadium in Dallas for. the global Cup and you can also find it. on CBS and CBS Sports Network very happy. to be here today with mr. Jess Lockwood.

and mr. Matt West I love physical t-bone.

shrimp broth medium what I like is a big. shrimp in the Gulf of Mexico though yeah. you'll see woman like a coffee company. the smoking cigarette the morning yeah. got a rockstar ball cap with a mullet in. the back this was like a seniority vest. don't like even worked working at. Hooters yeah yeah I need a Pensacola.

Beach man I ain't been there in a minute. dude Hooters used to be the place used. to be used to be how do you just 22 oh. yeah yes custom rods like your blood. back in college college Hooters was was. a [ __ ] it was a place on the road to. slick the sides in my head back with a. jelly package we didn't have any hair. gel yep I get off just like a light. strawberry or something go down each. side and I go to Hooters when I would.

get an appetizer yeah and just stare. straight into the eyes of every woman. till they asked me to leave that's a. good play dude I never could make eye. contact oh yeah yeah I was real shy oh. really nervous so I just sit there till. like I fell off the stool and then. security would ask me oh that same kinda. yeah see if wants to get their attention. yeah that's why I did it yeah you know. they're like oh we got to check on him. yeah it's like the kid that uh. pretended to be drowning so the.

lifeguard would come down and give you. mouth-to-mouth oh yeah yeah yeah that. move. yeah Sandlin what'd it say in LA yes. thanks oh yeah the good movie man it's a. good movie so let me so let's get you. guys as jobs clear so your Rother yep. I'm a rider not one of the best riders. yet in the 2017 and 2019 I want it run. world title and who won 2018 ke keep a. check oh oh God. it wasn't my hair it wasn't no I got my. ass kicked really yeah and do you credit. anything to like like what cost you it. or do you think it was just a bad bull.

what was it cause um she we they talk. about all the time world champion. hangover kind of just yeah I didn't go. into the season as pinpointed as I. should've and then second or even the. offseason we ride another animal riding. on other animals but I did go partying. yeah you gotta do yeah I was celebrated. yeah I wasn't twenty year old kid went. and hung out at my buddy's college for a. bit and hung out and had fun and then. pre-marriage yeah this was pre marriage.

okay so yeah I can talk about this yeah. yeah Christian funny talking waterslide. he's talking yeah yeah yeah yeah movies. just you know it's sad but that's. actually kind of true yeah he's not much. of a partier now I'm not too hard. so 2019 it was a did was that like a. comeback time for you do you feel like. yeah after that 2018 season I was pretty. pissed off and I had a chip on my. shoulder going in the new season had to.

prove something so it was it was a good. season just awkward thanks for being. here today your job with it's totally. different right I just talked for a. living yeah it's not hard so how does it. go when I'm get to the arena when you. get to the actual event so I mean it's. just like anything else like like when. you start putting your stand up together. like we'll start putting notes together. about these guys I'll talk about you. know if he broke his collarbone or. whatever storylines statistics we've got. to know know the Bulls got to know all. the guys and be able to kind of tell. that story to somebody that's never seen. it before.

yeah and find a way to make it. interesting to them like that's I I put. pressure on myself to bring in brand new. fans that have no idea what the hell's. going on and make them leave going holy. [ __ ] I'm invested in this guy or this. bowl or I just love the sport it's one. of the fat. that's growing sports in America yeah. yeah why is that you think man I think. it's like I think the intensity of it. like and the respect for what these guys. do because it's literally the only sport. in the world that a guy can lose his.

life practicing I mean because they. practice on real-life Bulls and when. you're putting that much on the line. every single time like it's not like you. show up in half-ass a game like these. guys got to show up and and give it a. thousand percent every time so how could. you not be invested in something like. that yeah yeah you can't get up in you. can't spray paint a sheep in a lot of. the audience and get out there take it. easy if you don't stay on you don't get. paid that's another thing a lot of guys. have contract salaries you buck off and. you go on a streak where you fall off a.

lot you're probably either getting. kicked off the tour and not paid or. you're losing sponsors all sorts of. stuff so yeah nobody's sitting in a. control room punching a button telling. them that hey this Bulls going to turn. left. giving them a little the old Astros turn. to the left or anything like that yeah. you don't get to Omaha Omaha when you're. up no right yeah there's no timeout hey. stop this ain't comfortable it's it's. when you're going you're you're in for. it so the size of these bulls what is it.

like what are we talking I'd say an. average 116 1,700 but [ __ ] there'll be. ones up to 2,200 pounds there are some. big bastards out there and you don't get. to meet them before you don't get to. like say anything to them hey buddy I. mean you can but most of the time they. don't care about your opinion they want. to get in there buck you off go back to. their feeding their cows and why do they. hate having something on their back they. just don't like it it's just that it's. bred into him at this point you know. back in the day it was kind of hit and.

miss bull dude buck hard bulls wouldn't. but nowadays they're bred to do this and. they know their job so it's to get you. off as soon as they can and go back to. the back pens and as if you're like so. the different rounds you guys get into a. bull riding event right so you start. there's how many competitors are gonna. be in an event how does it how does the. event go throughout the evening or. sounds like it starts with 35 every. weekend the best 35 guys in the world. show up and typically on like a two-day. weekend. all 35 will get on two bulls they'll get.

on a boat like Friday night and then. another bull on Saturday night and then. the top 15 guys after those two rounds. will get on a third bull. they're like the best bulls in the world. so you know you it's like you're playing. in the major leagues and then you got to. step it up a notch in that final 15 and. those are the guys that really get paid. that's how you win so that's when you. get that money round a Sunday oh yeah. that's championship round you go and. lead in that sucker pick a good bull do. your job most likely gonna win it and. did you ever bull ride man I tried it. one time.

why'd it was the dumbest thing I've ever. done and I enrolled in the same College. three times that's no bull [ __ ] I've. done some stupid stuff but I tried it. man because like I was so invested in. what the guys were doing and I was I was. friends with all them I had so much. respect for him I was like I can't get. up there and talk about it and not know. what it feels like I still don't know. what it feels like cuz it knocked me. smooth the hell out I have no idea what. happened but really yeah it was dumb it. was so dumb and I got on a bull that. like legit couldn't have jumped over. that Cup it was so bad man I was the.

worst bull attempter ever why it sucked. and so you get into the event you get on. top of the bull you're in the it's a pen. what do they call it button shoes. [ __ ] shoot in the chute mm-hmm okay. now once you sit on it do they let like. how long do you get to be on it before. that gate opens so you're you just kind. of go through the motions your routine. but once the judge think I have a judge. sitting up on top of there and once he. feels like you're taking too long he'll. put you on a clock and you got 30.

seconds and regardless if that Bulls. going crazy in there you got 30 seconds. so it's best to get in there and go as. fast you possibly can. which we want to because it's sometimes. more dangerous in that steel metal chute. than it is out in the arena so can you. do you make that call when you're in. there do you say hey I'm ready now just. do you have a coach that's right guys it. says hey look this is the time is right. now let's open the gate now how does. that work know if you kind of like I. said go through your routine and then. once you're ready you slide up on them. and you nod your head or you can just.

tell them like okay open the gate. but most of us nod our head like that no. you feel you ready Indian zucchini. because the only thing I could equate it. to is being you know and non rider I. mean I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee. but that's about as wild as I did so the. only thing I could equate it to is being. on like I would think being on like a. thing at an amusement park or something. does it have that kind of feel like when. you're getting to the time you you know. you're about to you know Joe drops out. from under oh yeah it's one that.

rollercoasters climbing and you can feel. your body kind of start to get that. adrenaline going it's like oh [ __ ] it's. coming it's coming that's what it's like. when you're in the chute doing your. routine and then when you get up a nod. it's kind of after when you nod it's. like when that roller coaster drop it. just goes black you know what you're. doing but it's all reaction you don't. have time to think you don't have time. to do anything it's just hold on for. dear life is there a place where your. head goes I can imagine if you start to. get to mental about it then you're you. probably gonna it's gonna be a loss like. I can imagine if to stay in like a flow.

almost oh yeah if you're if you're in. the chute and you're thinking all right. I know this bull he's gonna turn out of. here and go left if you start thinking. that when you're in the chute you. screwed yourself because that bowl has a. mind of its own. you make a move right out of there to go. left he's gonna go straight or he's. gonna go the opposite way just to dump. you damn is there a feeling you get some. time when you're on it like man this. thing is not it's not a good day for. this mister that time of the month for. this when it's there's there anything. you get this one's had a tough week or. something you get any that is there any.

vibe coming up for the bull or not. really not really when he when he rolls. into that chute usually you can tell. kind of you can get a little vibe off of. him not by feel just by looking at him. if he's kind of droopy eared or if he. looks real skinny than normal you can. kind of tell well he doesn't look like. he's gonna have his day but then they. can surprise you and they can rock your. house off quick yeah that's what's funny. about it because you see guys that like. like me I always try to match him up and. I'm like okay he's definitely gonna ride. that one he's definitely gonna ride that.

one that one's gonna be tough for him. and you see somebody get on one there. should be a quote-unquote gimme and they. slam their ass in like less than a. second it's unreal man have you ever. seen one yeah you've been 100 bucks off. why I've never been I might go Saturday. sweet yes I'm gonna get really looking. forward to going with Saturday well much. different work yeah so much different I. want to get that ambiance we got you I. have a brother-in-law that did a lot of. the. Broncos for a while yeah I wrote the. horses right oh yeah bucking horses and. did you start with that so we grew up on.

a ranch and that's kind of the first. thing you get on as a kid is horses. because we have cattle cattle need to be. worked move to different pastures so I. started out on a little tiny mini pony. yeah add wood I wouldn't have my own. reins how you control them dad would. just take them and time to his saddle in. a way we'd go I just hold on I was two. three years old yeah yeah a lot of guys. start on sheep oh yeah yeah yeah believe. it or not a lot a lot of guys that's. what that's it sounds like right but. like little kids riding sheep you know.

does that pay seventy dollars to watch. on a hardcore sheep seven so I mean yeah. I go 80 man if it's Sunday only the. Lord's there yeah we have a question. that came in right here from somebody. let's get to it here. hey Jeff say Theo drew from central. Indiana here I grew up idolizing bull.

riders in the early and mid 90s guys. like Tuffy Thurman Cody Lambert Laney. Frost. Ty Murray you know all the guys from the. eight seconds movie questions for you. Jess I got a three parter here bodacious. is obviously one of the most famous. Bulls ever on the circuit just curious. if there is a bull today that you think. compares to him secondly follow up with. that is is there a favorite bull name. that you have that you've come across.

over the years and thirdly my question. is the stature become a factor in bull. riding or is it just the size of the. cojones that you have good luck this. year on the circuit man defending that. strap go get him gang gang good question. I nailed it. yeah he's into it man that's beautiful. yeah that uh Ty Murray is that the guy. yeah yeah that's the only bull rider. that I've ever heard of and I think I.

really country songs actually I heard. some reference in a couple of songs see. that's like me like I like I grew up. idolizing those guys. I knew I didn't have the cojones to be. one of them it was like how do how do I. stay involved I talk about yeah I know. my butt that's great though and I love. the way you say you want to introduce. people to it because yeah if I'm for the. first time it's almost like even one in. this podcast like I want our listeners. to know right what it's like you know. and what's going on what do you think. about his question there they were good. what did you ask about bodacious right. at first I Vulcan like a bowl like right.

now yeah shoot. smooth operator and a Heartbreak Kid. those are the top two bulls in the world. right now but a bowl that kind of. reminds me of bodacious is a bull called. High Chaparral and that's a bull that. nobody wants to get on like bodacious. back in the day he was notorious for. hitting guys in the face and I can't. imagine when you drew him you were happy. about it it's kind of like this bull. he's just kind of gross he's huge he's. about 20 100 pounds and he's just when. you see your name by him or you see got. him you're just like [ __ ] me.

just a big scary monster he's a bad boy. huh yeah and do they breed him like do. you know who their parents are do you. get the lineage on him or anything like. that yeah they have a they have a I. guess a website and paperwork on them. and all sorts of things you can see. their granddaddy their great great yet. they're more custom the DNA tests these. Bulls so to make sure because High. Chaparral if somebody's trying to sell. you a son of bodacious you want to be. able to DNA test and make sure that you. can go back and actually confirm that.

that really is a son of that bowl or. whatever so look at that thing man and. that's he's miserable look at the thighs. on that thing at Romney this girl I went. to school with that really yeah yeah. yeah it's gonna be Jessica she brought a. lasso to school every day really yeah. yeah it's ad hoc like what grade was. this rope somebody up dude. great it was time for a dance bro you. never change that's right you wasn't. asking her is it country girl she'd. bring you right here and that was it. dude sometimes it's got to be that way. though oh yeah cuz I was shy well yeah I. looked for girls like that like I'd be. in the corner like at the wall while.

everybody else was dancing like just. open she would show up because I'm the. only guy here by myself so why not oh. dude you talking to a guy I used to go. eight seconds on the chaperone oh sorry. are there so other rumors of bulls that. are out there that are coming up that. you're like oh man that's. big you know yeah there's they have a. competition for little Bulls they put a. dummy on them it's like a 30 pound dummy. and they can click it off with a button. and they let those Bulls buck and they.

mark them and they have their own. competition so you see a lot coming up. from there and those are bucking dudes. man they are when they're that young. that little and have that much athletic. ability to them they're freaking. incredible so this whole like there's a. lot of respect for the animal huh oh. yeah if we didn't have those bulls we. wouldn't have a job yeah what would we. ride sheep on Sundays yeah that'd be a. little bit I mean I'd watch it but you. know gosh 80 bucks dude. they measure the big sheep people start. grooming sheep breeding would be a big.

deal nowadays if that was the case open. hordes on to putting Viking helmets tie. them to their head paying them different. colors put numbers on them like racecars. why wouldn't you oh that Tony Stewart. sure that thing's day smoke smoke it's. got kind of a gray color to it I think. yeah that's a bad ramp that's a bad room. right there bad room um so you're in. there now what do you do with your hand. a lot of time I see the guys have taught. you tie your hand in or what goes on. there yeah it's a rope and it's pretty. much tree sap we put on the rope to help.

us hang on to them okay so you're not. tired really yo we're tied in there and. it's I mean that's the scariest thing is. that you are tied in there and you are. in there for the long haul it's it's a. rope it just goes around kind of their. brisket area and you put it across your. hand and then you wrap it around your. hand so you're like locked in there and. and your legs or what yeah they're in. there in chaps but those shafts really. do nothing for you. they might protect you from a little. skiff but they're just there for show. really they're loose they're not.

strapped to anything okay so how do I be. able to move their legs now the only. thing you're tied in with is your hands. so the rest your body's free to move and. that's when you see guys they're hanging. by their hand once they get bucked off. is and I hang up we call it oh and. that's bad news baby yes I get it all. and is there a type of body type. sometimes I'll look at these guys body. tight front on a bull and it's like okay. that guy looks like you know everything. kind of like he's his height like that. is there a body type that does best in.

the sport yeah. order yours a little better you want to. be skinny but you want to be as strong. possible as you can be and then that's. pretty much it really you don't want to. be overweight and you don't want to be. too tall makes it tougher yeah so yeah I. couldn't do it I'm overweight I can't do. it I waited out of the deal that was my. problem so when a guy likes a just gets. on a bull what are some things you're. talking about like from the announce. honestly like for him it's pretty simple. you know here's a two-time world champ.

like last year when he when he came back. cuz that's what people don't realize is. like this is a guy that missed what nine. events last year nine out of our 26 27. events that we have so he misses. essentially you know a big chunk of the. season broke his collarbone when he. comes back you know he's got to fight. his way back up. so he's climbing the ranks and it's like. okay this guy won two events he's now. won three events you know he missed all. this season so when we got to the world. finals in Vegas I mean it was it was the. best race ever because it was him and a.

Brazilian kid josée and it literally. came down to the last day it came down. to Sunday which you know a lot of sports. will fabricate that you know it's gonna. be tough it's gonna come down to the. final shot and we know it's not because. somebody's gonna pull away. I didn't happen last year so it's such a. fun story to tell but like we talked. about some of the injuries that they've. dealt with you know how good they've. done everybody's got a different story. you know like if a guy just had a baby. two weeks ago he's had to leave home. right you know he's had to leave that.

baby at home get on the road go put his. life on the line to buy diapers for that. baby there's no guaranteed contracts in. this sport it's so different than. everything else man because you know. these guys they have to be successful. they have to ride they have to win to. make any money it's so different than. every other sport in the world so. there's no like oh we're gonna pay for. this whole season no matter what nope if. you do good enough you'll get sponsors. that'll pay yeah but that contracts. based on your performance at the events. and how many you go to so if you get. hurt the first event of the year and.

you're out for the year. there's in the contract there's a little. money you'll get but you're not getting. paid that well that's why like when you. see a guy he and he's riding with a. broken leg you know or he's got a broken. collarbone and just gonna throw some. tape on that [ __ ] and go try it again. like they do it because that's. the only way they get paid wow they're. the toughest in the world man. and a collarbone sounds like is that one. of the premier injuries is that. something you really don't want to get. like what's what are some of the. injuries that are that you'll face and. what are something that can really take. you out you know of course broken bones.

but groins a lot of time old bull riders. and bull riders nowadays it's so common. torn groins torn knees stuff like that. it really sucks cuz you can't just go in. and with the broken leg you could plate. it and you could probably ride in two. weeks but torn groin I've sat out three. months before with the torn groin just. waiting on it to heal because you can't. squeeze your bowl if you don't got a. torn groin and that's your bread and. butter right there so that's what you're. doing some when you're on there you're. squeezing your legs in oh yeah you're.

trying to stay on you've got your hand. locked in down tight them in your crotch. it's yeah you slide up so it's right. right there you're kind of up on your. legs right there yeah yeah crazy. we got a question that came in right. here let's get to this one right here. yep oh no that's probably that's about. the longest I've stayed out but in 20. growing that pretty common 2017 at New. York I got stepped on I broke four ribs.

collapsed my lung and lacerated my liver. and it was about three weeks out from. World Finals so I had to ride at the. World Finals that year with with broke. ribs and that stuff so you know what I. just realized like both of your world. title seasons were like when you got. really really hurt mm-hmm now I know. what this is well I have yet wood in all. my it's a nice table I'm nice I love. this place my four years of the PBR I've.

never won a full season healthy which is. expected as a bull rider but there's. guys that'll go to they might miss one. event a year but over the course of four. years they one of the other broadcasters. on CBS that does PBR he totaled it up. and I've missed a total of one year I've. sat out three months my first year three. four months my next year three months in. 2018 and three months last year all. sorts of so it's is so it's pretty kind. is it pretty common at some doesn't make.

it through the end. our season doesn't make every race in. your heart to find somebody that's gonna. stay healthy and make it to every single. event because I mean it's just you. you're the little things like he was. talking about in a shoot you're. surrounded by solid steel and you know. you're getting banging around ACLs MCLs. are pretty common groins are pretty. common and when you're doing this three. four five times a week in every single. weekend even when the televised tour is. not on like when they're not going to a. place like LA or Anaheim they're going. somewhere and they're getting on. practice bulls you get hurt in a.

practice band too so I don't know III. think it's impossible for a guy to stay. 100% healthy all year long. is there a practice that they've made. like a mechanical practice that's that's. actually helpful that works. yeah there's mechanical barrels that go. up and down kind of give you the feeling. of one there's mechanical bulls that. spin all that sorts of stuff I don't. usually ride the mechanical ones there's. a barrel made that's on Springs that. goes up and down to kind of give you the. rhythm feeling I got one of those at.

both my places and I'll get on that a. couple times during the week just to. give myself to feel and kind of do that. and what uh we got a question that came. around here let's get to this one right. here that's what up feel my question for. Jess is what kind of training regimen do. you have to follow to be a bull rider. are you out at bars riding mechanical. bulls or you lifting weights every day. Gang Gang question right here what is it.

man what do you guys what do you do I. just kind of work out there's there's. guys that can drink beer during the week. and not work out at all and it works for. them what so many guys different things. work for them but what works for me is I. got a little sweat shop it's a twelve by. twenty building I got one in Montana one. in Texas at our places and I get in. there crank that sucker up to 110. degrees get in there and lift weights. work out and so I'm grinding all week. long to come here there's one guy that. that works for I don't work for anybody.

else when you think about it there's one. guy that can get away with with drinking. and not working out like everybody else. is pretty regimen right now too - oh. okay yeah maybe two - Alta and has it. changed a lot because in stand-up comedy. it used to be that you had to have yet. it'd be out doing drugs you had to be. partying you had there was a lifestyle. that kind of went associated with. getting up on the stage at night and now. it's changed like a lot of the. comedian's an hour sober a lot of them I. mean Joe Rogan is a fitness guru I mean.

he's shredded yeah sure sure David I'd. love to see you do four seconds on Joe. Rogan oh my god man that dudes a monster. yeah he's a beast I wonder if anybody. would ever have a bully Joe Rogan bro. that would be amazing. we'll make it happen yeah it happens. just Jo ro GaN just tell me he's cool oh. he's really cool man he's just he's also. inspiring that's the thing like I think. five years ago people thought a lot of. people thought oh he's just this. meathead guy yes just you know doing a. podcast but he's such a good he. remembers everything and he's so curious.

man like he always he really wants to. know yeah and then he retains the. information he's so he's so intelligent. and I love the fact that like he does. the podcast and he doesn't care who's on. there. he doesn't care for democrat-republican. where you come from yeah like he's. invested yeah he is and he really is. it's not like I cook with him yet really. is just trying to genuine yeah genuine. he's really trying to learn which is. cool like I struggle with a lot of times. I'll bring my own thoughts and. perspective anything but he really does.

a good job of just staying trying to. learn yeah that's cool um so is it is it. different now though like where a lot of. guys are working out more it's a lot. more like okay we're in this this is a. sport we're in this to make money this. is my livelihood it's not like you know. I'm drinking I'm sad at the bar like you. know the kind of the country song vibe. that used to go along with it yeah. today's borders are a lot of athletes. back in the day. PBR used to be sponsored by Bud Light. and they'd bring Bud Light in after the. blow rottens and everyone just kind of. would drink and just hang out not very.

many people worked out and they loved. going to the bars not that we don't. still but back in the day it was kind of. just a routine and ritual after the. boride and everyone goes to the bars we. have fun ride bulls the next day dude. I've been around for like a dozen years. or so and the two might be seen in two. generations I've seen it's it's nine-day. different when I first came in it was. like man how do you keep up with these. guys because it was the Wild West and. those guys they'll tell stories now. and like say most of those guys are. sober now and they're like holy crap how.

did we live through that now it's like. you see the guys and you know they're. waking up in the morning they're having. breakfast they're going to the gym. they're doing yoga and whatever they do. during the day and then they're showing. up in they're treating it like a sport. because they've realized that the Bulls. are getting better the holes are getting. better and better and more athletic and. so they have to they have to step their. game up you know he's you're hard though. cuz sometimes it's tough as a convenient. to let go of that old lifestyle it's. tough like I'll feel like a wimp. sometimes you know in like a. psychological way sometimes like oh I'm.

you know on the side you know hanging. out with the guys afterwards staying up. all night and yes smoke is he just. partying all night you know. oh yeah like I would love to just I. would love if I could be as successful. as I am with not working out at all. drinking beer just eating [ __ ] food. because I love candy and stuff but I I. hold my back self back from eating it. all because it ain't gonna help with my. riding so everybody though like like. everybody wants to be successful and not. work and like oh I get a little light. out full of nerds right you know I put.

two star veneers on get on that bastard. gobstoppers toppers is more of a lot I. don't know about gobstoppers man do when. you got on a Gobstopper dude and you. really went in on that vest and the ones. that changed like flavor halfway through. yeah good old days. damn is like a threesome for your tongue. ah like everything it was did uh how. much how much money does a rider make. you know you don't have to exaggerate it. I'm not trying to pick into your life. but ya know it's uh it's just it's so.

different those lower end riders if. you're at the bottom of the top 35. you're still making 100 200 thousand a. year just because there's so much money. in the PBR whereas if you win the World. title it's a million dollar bonus Wow. and when in the World Finals it's a. three hundred thousand dollar bonus. there's so many incentives and with. winning an event when in the World. Finals everything that if you have a. really good year you can make 1.8. million. see that's where I get mad because they.

start talking about you know the world. champ gets a million dollar bonus. there's a guy sitting on the bench for. the Knicks that sucks that's making a. million dollars and these guys are way. too uh fur way. better you know I think the sports way. more interesting you know it's way more. intense and like that bothers me I want. all these guys to make millions is it. growing the one he's got a hormone he's. got to start coming into it oh yes all. eyeballs. yeah eyeballs um is there another. country that's coming along with bull. ride and that's like that Pete you don't. you don't think about you know you think.

of it as I mean especially growing up in. America I think of it as an American. kind of sport is that true is that no. shoot we got Canada Australia Brazil. Mexico everyone has the PBR Association. there and they ride in it but the. toughest ones are the Brazilians they're. unbelievable they have to man it's their. life like they leave everything you know. you think about it Brazil's not a really. they're not a really rich country yeah. and a lot of these guys have grown up. with nothing and so they leave home they.

come over here and it's like this is all. they do so you see a bunch of Brazilians. living in the same little circle they. get up they worked out they practice. they they eat together they do. everything together they don't have all. the distractions of the rest of the. world that you know like just seeing our. families and everything that we do. normally oh yeah they don't have it so. they're laser focused they're so good. man there's something there's a there's. a special value in having that struggle. and having that extra chip that you. can't you can't imitate it like even as. I find as I get a little more. comfortable like started making some.

money this past year it's hard to go. back to it's hard to get that same. mentality of when you have nothing yeah. when everything is on the line you know. when you have to stay like it's like a. chip inside of yourself that you can't. it's hard to replicate it yeah you know. I think it's that way with anything. though like like once you see a certain. level like even day-to-day like if I. have a really good Monday I don't want. to x' day to suck you know because then. I feel like the week's wasted so it's. like you got to maintain this level. that's why they always say like you know.

people that our superstars are usually. the loneliest people because they push. their self to this level and it's so. hard to come back down you know what I. mean yeah and so I see that with these. guys like they're constantly pushing. themselves and if they buck off one bull. it like ruins their week I am and they. got to forget about it and turn around. because they got to do it again tomorrow. if you have a shitty rod in the first. rod right so Friday you don't have a. good rod they call it a rod what are. they. yep Oh God you have a tough ride at the. first the first go do you have a chance. in that Saturday to make it back up and.

to get into Sunday yep. so this events a little different from. normal they take the top 25 into the day. too so if you're outside of the top 25. and you buck off your weekends done. whereas I'm second right now and I'm. almost guaranteed to ride tomorrow but. on a regular weekend you're guaranteed. to so if you suck Friday you better. forget that [ __ ] and just push it aside. because you got another one Saturday and. you got to make the most of it and what. does it do to your mentality if you have. a tough Friday does it affect it or are.

you able to kind of scrap and just get. right in that's the thing it's everyone. it's 90% mental and Bloor and you can. put in all that work and it's not going. to matter if you get to the boride and. you see your bowl you're like oh man I. don't like the looks of him then you're. screwed you just got to be positive. about everything even if you buck off. you got to be like well I got tomorrow I. got a good bowl even if he's not good. I'm gonna make him good and I'm gonna. stay on him sorry to interrupt this. episode one of my favorite episodes. actually I want to let you know that. support for this past weekend comes from.

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show when you win the shoot when they. open the gate this n is hitting me man. good stuff yeah dude I remember the. first time I ever did - in tobacco it's. like cherry Scholl or something and I. did like a half a can I was trying to. show my buddy up right I didn't know. anything about it dude and I had like. I'm a whole mouth was full of it how old. were you it's probably about fourteen. really and my buddies took his mom's car. we were going out we were partying you. know we weren't really were just driving. around but and I vomited out of the.

front window out of the passenger side. yeah and he's like dude you can't sit up. there anymore but you got to sit in the. back. I vomited out of both of the back. windows oh yeah and so on the side of. the car we went and hung out at night. and then we went and parked the car in. the morning his mom thought he'd been. partying with the whole group of people. vomit on every window and they didn't. believe it I was just deal man he just. thought he wasn't do it real well yeah. got my first still don't believe to this. day she's like there's no way one child. vomited out of three windows my first.

tobacco I was to my dad left it laying. there and I thought it would be a good. idea to just put it in my mouth take a. drink whatever it was not a good idea. puked came out both ends dad took me. outside garden hosed me off ran around. naked the rest of the day pretty. successful day mom still hates were you. 2 or 22 yeah. anyways it was in college when you leave. this shoot right what do you look at.

what do you look are you looking like is. your because sometimes I say like if. you're in the gym you're doing squats I. say look at the ceiling or something you. know there's like a place for your focus. what is it like yes they're at their. neck muscle that big hump they got on. them. you pretty much stare at that because. their shoulders is what you follow if. you look at their head they're some. bowls sling their head everywhere so if. you get too focused on that you're. you're gonna go cross-eyed during the. damn ride so if you look at their. shoulders you and you don't even really. go off of what you see it's all feel but. that's the best focus point just look at.

their shoulders yet stay right down in. there yep it's pretty much just you. don't even know what's going on but. that's where you look and at a certain. point can you hear the crowd can you. hear when it's going good. I just I don't hear much when I'm riding. you know it's kind of and you want to. say you hear the whistle but you Daniel. don't even hear that and it's just. become a routine that when it gets. around to that eight second o'clock you. know it's time to get off and at eight. seconds what happens in a buzzer sounds. a whistle what goes on buzzer sounds in.

the arena and then then it's your job to. get off them without getting killed so. it it almost gets harder than crazy. because you think like you just did your. job and like okay good job nobody still. got to get off get away not get hooked. ran over the worst part of the job is. before and after you get to work yeah. for these guys well we're lucky like. we've got bullfighters out there there. are there to try to distract the bull. make sure they get away but it's not. always that easy. what's the pot what's the way to. dismount so what how do you do that what.

you pretty much if you whatever hand. your ID with you go away from it and you. well you go into it I guess you go. towards it and you kind of wait for that. bull to kick and you kind of lean back. and throw your leg over his back at the. same time and kind of let them throw you. out there and ideally you land on your. feet but it's kind of rare if you land. on your feet really yeah and the second. you hit the ground you're scurry and off. you have a lot of time you see that just. kind of right yeah yeah move yeah that's. wild and so when the bull step then you.

got stepped on last year you said 2017. 2017 yeah I got stepped on and it. I mean of course it took my breath away. and it was like oh [ __ ]. did you know what had happened oh yeah. when it happened I was like oh I just. broke everything in there and that's the. scariest part getting stepped on it you. don't know if it just punctured. something what that's the scariest damn. thing and I rolled over and that bowl. was right there and that bullfighter. went in and took it took him away but. then I had to get up and run out of the. arena essentially with four broke ribs.

collapsed lung and lacerated liver yeah. so if you laying that you're screwed you. if you got a broke leg you got to get. the hell out of there it is the most. common thing when they when they stepped. Lee is it usually I guess you don't know. where they're gonna step is no yeah it's. usually broke ribs. yeah broke ribs she can guarantee every. time you get stepped on pretty much you. know Wow. I don't see NFL guys running around. these planes you don't see it you don't. see it anywhere else. and I think that that's kind of the the. intrigue like say you know that brings.

new people and that's why it's the. fastest growing sport because you don't. see that you don't see guys getting. carted off in in our arena rarely do you. see a stretcher because the guys want to. walk out yeah if they've got busted ribs. they've got a busted spleen like they. still want to walk out they don't want. to help yeah yeah I mean and I don't. know if that's an old-school kind of. sign of weakness or if it's just hurry. up cuz we got to keep the show going or. what it is but it's crazy I've seen guys. get up and walk out with broken necks. like insane insane injuries if probably.

that adrenaline rushing so much too. still huh oh yeah yeah the only time. I've been carted off I got knocked out. actually and when I came to I really. didn't come to until I got me back to. the sports med room but I guess I woke. up out in the arena and when I hit the. ground he kind of he bent me weird so I. woke up out in the arena and I didn't. know what the hell I was saying but I. was saying oh my [ __ ] back hurts and. they're like what where and I'm like I. don't know I was just I didn't know what.

the hell I was saying because I was. still knocked out essentially and. they're like oh god well we got a card. him out his back might be broke and then. they get me in the sports med room and I. really come to and I'm like what the. [ __ ] am i doing on a stretcher like well. you said your your back hurt it's like. [ __ ] I don't know what I was saying and. I. now realize what's really going on so. that's the only time I've been card away. cuz essentially I was just speaking. mumbo-jumbo because I was still out I. guess like being drunk he can't hold me. accountable yeah you know when you've. been stepped on yeah. do they have two routers or one bull at.

the same time do you ever do that how to. seen it before yeah not at our events. but when you're going around in the. practice pen anything goes is so is that. like is that a sport you think that'll. grow in a song like is that impossible. man I hope so Oh like a tag-team kind of. thing you imagine you just start putting. teams together my brother nice to sit on. the toilet at the same time we're kids. sometimes facing each other. no no no you couldn't back do you have. to go back-to-back like where did like. told us not that big notice had that big.

when you gotta have good name. do we see over the kid Roy's house and. he would play all these games he was. kind of a now in hindsight I think he. was kind of a homoerotic kind of. judgment or he preferred men as lovers. you know but we were kids we didn't know. right he would make us get in his. bathtub and like he would play. battleship or whatever and he would get. in his toilet and be like the captain. from the really like hat and everything. no he might I don't know feeling like a. captain's hat or something but he was. just getting their bark orders at us. would you say his name was Roy don't you.

think like everybody has a Roy in their. life and sometimes though like somehow. someway somewhere yeah this dude I mean. he yeah he would say oh the seas are. getting high and stuff and like we'd. have to turn on the water and make it. all like crazy you never have to like. stick your face in the water and like. blow bubbles did you pretend you're out. like the motorboat never got in the. toilet is yellow stuff he was kind of a. mystery it was like he was the captain. you were the seamen yeah yeah he was a.

wild cat ended up going into the. military dude really yeah so he got in. there man that's good so now he's legit. captain yeah now he has mindset he was. going for it you were basically his. little plastic green army he was just. practicing for the real thing. you contributed basically you were in. the service. yeah. and help prep him for a career that's.

good [ __ ] man thank you for your service. because yeah he really went into. military man oh we got a question from a. guy right here here we go yo what up. video mr. Lockwood. I see boy blight from Nebraska um my. question is what's the craziest [ __ ]. y'all ever wrote do you said you're from. the stray animal belt. there's wonder if you ever wrote.

anything or anything crazy you know um. you know no including big gals or. anything like that but yeah Gang Gang. howhow do you think that guy is right. now uh uh he could be pretty hot he's. pretty hot he could be pretty I let me. think uh what you got I mean I guess. it's a bowl probably the craziest thing. no I got so at home during the winter. when I was still living up at home. everyone around the place traps you know. traps animals coyotes for fur foxes well.

one day we go out in the pasture where. we had a trap set a foot trap and an. antelope was stuck in it we're like aw. [ __ ] now we got to get this thing out of. there and so we get it out I'm like [ __ ]. it get your snapchat out I'm gonna ride. it up Saro I let this antelope get up. and I wrote it off no well it didn't. have the same kind of feel that doesn't. same kind of vibe of what was going on. now it was freaking the hell out I mean. kind of sort of the same thing but a lot. smaller than a bowl it was fun.

did we had a boy I talked about this we. had a kid with no legs on our basketball. team at one time so we had a big black. guy named Terrence who was like our. center on the team and he had to carry. him for like half the game and we carry. him around and try to get him to get. buckets you know so that's about the. craziest riding I've ever seen because. he would kind of wear him on his back a. little bit backpacks yeah like if you. had to play defenders would hold both of. his arms down and then he would just. play defense with the other arm you know. but uh the craziest thing I ever been on.

probably a strong woman one time in. Indiana really yeah because it gets cold. and they like lift weights that kind of. I'm like some women have that they're. kind of thick but they it's like it's. kind of like strong fat honey you know. like the in-between like powerlifter. strong yeah yeah like they don't look. like big veiny muscles but like yeah. they know yeah tell you don't want to. [ __ ] with it and the fat it's kind of. tight you know they get that tight fat. which I really like man cuz it's not. really fat yeah it's not really not. really muscle yeah what is it's like.

Wagyu I yeah it's good yeah which is. more lesser there's a reason it's more. expensive yeah so you get it yeah this. girl was really Wagyu man and uh I. remember that being one kind of the. largest thing that I've ever really kind. of I guess ridden really I got on a. camel one time in a County Fair. no [ __ ] that's where because they. started doing it for a photo shoot we. were doing a rodeo and they're like hey. we got to get a picture of you on this. camel and I'm scared of heights. and then the camel like started kind of. just jumping and I've never been so.

scared in my life. never like I I flew on a and through a. snowstorm on the way here and the planes. started doing this wasn't as scary is. being on the back of a camel that just. started like popping up and down. terrifying man. can you imagine telling people you got. bucked off a camel like that's the worst. thing you could ever do in your life I. could imagine in some countries it's uh. it's happening it's probably like a like. a pride thing yeah like you're not. somebody until you get bucked off yeah. yeah but camel yeah are there new. animals that people are starting to ride. besides Bulls is there anything else.

that's coming up like you're seeing like. in the in the world not really you know. you just got your common bucking horses. bucking bulls but that's that's it and. is there a difference when you're on the. bors's they call them Broncos right yep. so if you're a Bronco is there a big. difference between that kind of rod and. the bull riding it's definitely. different you don't hang on by a rope. you got a you kind of got uh praying. it's it's kind of connected to their. face and it clips on it's like a like a. holder goes around them uh-huh and you.

hold on by that and then you're in a. saddle instead of a rope around them and. you got to keep yourself in that saddle. so it's a lot different is it tougher is. one tougher than the other. I'd have to say Bora and just because. you don't have a saddle that you can. actually sit in and keep yourself in. you're just hanging on by that rope so. in the bull you're sitting on their back. ear really it's not a saddle that you're. sitting in nope it's just a pretty much. a 20. nope just stuck around them and your. hands in it and that's all you got to. keep yourself on so you're not so but.

you're sitting you're putting your legs. into something on there no nope just. around there around their back and their. sides that's it like there is nothing. that is keeping you in there but your. hand and your balance and do people. because you're a young guy you're 22 you. said yep three do people do older guys. like did they get upset like how does. that kind of go that you're eat is it a. young guys sport yeah 100% like you know. you've got to be able to not only bounce.

back from injury but you've got to be so. quick and like you see guys that have. been around for ten years or so they. start to get those injuries start to. pile up and it starts to slow them down. just like with anything else you know. like you start to compound all those. injuries and you know your body doesn't. react the way it used to and so it's. definitely a young guys sport you know. you hit probably hit prime what like. mid-20s yep you know I have 26 if a. guy's 30 he's an old man in this sport. and we got some like we're lucky right.

now we've got a couple of guys that are. like 36 37 I don't know how they do it. yeah but yeah they're different they are. so tough and they stay in such great. shape it's different than any of us. being 36 37 Red Bulls is their. discrepancy between like the American. and the Brazilian riders like is there. any like country beef a little bit or. not really no we have won nicest guys. ever you have one event it's called the. global Cup and we do it at AT&T Stadium. where the Cowboys play and there's yeah.

it's crazy man thanks we can think about. that yes you're gonna be there next. weekend yep yep and that's it you'll see. it on the big screens when you're there. and everything they take the football. field out they put arena down there and. every country has a team and so that's. the only time all year long that you'll. see guys like really raised in that. Brazilian flag or the USA flag it's. pretty cool because I feel like you know. everybody wants something here yeah it. is it's our Olympics you know. essentially so has it ever been an. Olympic sport bull rod there when was it.

back early thousands late 90s had been. too terribly long ago they had. like Idaho or something they had a. Olympic rodeo yeah I got my dad home. made that [ __ ] up no dad I'm serious. yeah I don't know and they gave me you. know that like it like at one time they. were they were testing it out trying to. make it but mmm I don't know man. curling's only epic sport why didn't. boil ride I watched curling the other. night for about an hour right it's like. a corn hole from Italia Italy really.

yeah they they grow in a town in Italy. oh really yeah I thought it was like all. Canadian I do the word they might have. been playing Canada I think at the time. but these girls they were doing well. real I thought I don't know what was. going there but it sounded exciting late. night I gotta clear my thought I was so. much [ __ ] nicotine in my throat as I. say I'm feeling left out like I'm the. only one not spitting here maybe I just. spend the foreword that six for about 35.

minutes live we got a guy right here in. a photo lab who has a question and this. bull rider how many times this man. listen to that Tim McGraw hitter before. he gets on that bull going three point. seven seconds Gang Gang you thought that. last guy was high madness I think what a. shame I think yeah this is coming in red. this guy was living enough yeah this is.

buck developed like his eyes are so. close he doesn't even know the camera is. not on his fan I like to see him go. eight seconds with his eyes open I'd. like to see him go to lunch like outside. of his apartment that's awesome. is that a Nickelback record on the wall. explains so much is there a song is. there hype music what are people. listening to Travis Scott what are you. guys doing my song has dire straits. money for nothing Oh what they play when. I start going and dude so when do they. start the intro music is it like UFC.

they do when they come out of the when. they come out you know when we get in. that bucking shoe that's when they start. it okay. pretty much I need to play the whole. time you were rotten yeah they they got. a Music Mixer at the events each weekend. so they'll play that and then when I nod. he'll mix up something different and. it'll play a freaking Jam up song when. I'm going hey you should switch it up. and play a genuine. my pony oh that's not a bad idea that's. their blood they play baby shark before. they have done that I I introduced him. last week after he wrote his bull I. introduced him as mr. Halley Kenzel.

because his wife's a world champion. barrel racer - and so we kind of changed. up his name a little bit less last week. - and did you meet her on the circuit. yeah not on this but we have a couple. different events each year that kind of. collide with PBR we get invited to some. and I met her at one of those nice man. and did you know immediate was there do. you I mean how did that break down with. you and the lady it was good I I knew. she was gonna marry her before I even. met her yeah and I just know that's NOLA.

so I'm doing interviews for like this. little digital network we had here and I. asked him I said describe the perfect. woman because he's what 19 at the time. someone 18 19 yeah we know either and. it's like you know all these teenage. girls are flocking over these guys and. like young Cowboys described the perfect. girl and he looks the camera dead in the. eye and he goes hailey Kenzel and gives. it this week and he had never even met. her never there we go he met her right. there to put it out in the universe.

happened yeah man that's beautiful dude. thank you and so her sport her when she. does its barrel racing yep and so that's. on a horse yeah and it's only pattern. three barrels okay and so when you say. that cloverleaf pattern what is that you. just you go around there's sort of. right-hand turn okay they're both on the. triangle yeah and they start at one of. the barrels yeah you go you start. probably a hundred feet out from the. barrel and then you run at the barrel go. around it then go to the next one go.

around it go to the third one go around. it and haul ass home that's crazy. that's Wow yeah and uh do you did you. have parents that Road. yeah my mom competed in the barrel race. and then my dad wrote the bucking horses. so went from the time I was little up. until I think mom quit going when I was. probably around six seven I was getting. hauled to all those rodeos and. that's kind of how I took a liking to. the bull ride and I would see those. bulls go with rodeos and big scary. baseball bats on their heads and I just. took a liking to him for some reason now. he's got a 19 year old brother that's in.

the same league he is now then. just got into the major leagues that's. trying to beat that ass dang any of some. people is that starting to become a. thing oh yeah they're they're loving it. that me and him are on at the same time. it's kind of cool that the Lockwood. brothers are competing at this highest. level of bull riding dude that's. beautiful mood oh she wrote this back is. he single I'm 19 that's perfect for. people just listening there was someone. sent in just a snapchat photo and it's a.

girl hitting on Jesse's brother oh nice. get that tag I'll get it to him yeah. there we go love connection it starts. here there will be a Beretta. it all starts on the Internet these days. man you can officiate it damn right I. can do people get you at you get asked. to officiate a lie man we actually had a. bull rider here a couple of years ago. that asked me to and I kind of laughed. it off and and didn't really think much. about it but yeah we've had some weird. requests like not Bruce Buffer making. videos to walk people down the aisle.

with my voice kind of things but yeah. like I've been asked I've done some. funerals that weren't fun obviously but. it's part of life you know oh yeah but. I've never done one yet I want to do one. I want to do I want to I want to do the. wildest wedding ever. yeah just mess it up yeah make it. something they can remain a kit right. yeah it's got to be life's got to be fun. man I'm sure man that's great I love. that Nick made any other good questions. that came in we had another one from the.

guy in the photo lab ah this ought to be. interesting. I got another one for you man. lost a tooth or something out of his. pockets on that book let me know gang. gay gang well you ever lost your phone. or anything do you think your phone oh. did he say lose a tooth out of your. pocket said this guy's on a whole nother. planet right now have your methadone is.

he from Oklahoma cuz I live next to a. lot of people that act like that. yeah the grill piece if you lost. something we don't know I can't even no. I haven't lost a tooth I haven't lost. nothing really when I'm riding maybe my. necklace broke off once that's all I can. think do you. wear a helmet sometimes you see guys. with a helmet on yeah yeah I know I've. never lost that I'd keep that sucker. strapped on tight that's my lifeline. everybody wear that is that mandatory. mandatory now you know for the younger. guys I think it's like 93 or 94 if you.

were born or after if you're born after. 94 it's mandatory it's so dangerous you. have to you have to protect the noggin. yeah we're finding out more and more you. know in all major sports with with so. much CTE and somebody had trauma so much. research we're starting to learn that. like you've got to find a way to protect. that dome and so all of our guys are. wearing helmets now is it harder to. defend do you find because you're right. now the year the champion yep. is it harder to defend that do you feel. it was it was it tougher in 2018 or 2019. when you were making that comeback I.

think it was the first year it was. harder to defend whereas this year I'm. more experienced got more Bulls under my. belt at the top level I just feel it. it's just normal now that everyone talks. about though after you win your first. world title it's a world champion slump. the next year and I felt it it was true. but yeah you get you get put through so. much media at that point everyone wants. to talk to you use you for stuff but now. I'm just it's become normal to me and I. just deal with it and it doesn't affect. my riding no more did you notice like it.

did your ego ever get involved because. egos a dangerous thing sometimes. something we don't even control you know. it'll grow inside of us without us. really wanting it to we don't realize it. yeah we'll think we're the most humble. guy and you can have this like you know. the dark edge of you kind of growing up. did you notice any of that no it never. happened my parents raised me pretty. good if it ever got to that they would. whoop me when I was little so I knew. when I got older it wasn't gonna happen. but that ego thing comes on those. championship Sundays it comes into play. there I think when when you go up and. you get to pick your Bowl in that top 15.

oh really yeah so sometimes you get up. there and you feel that big energy. you're like yeah give me that one you. want to go with the biggest bad oh yeah. you're like you know let's run I'm the. man let's try them out hey here's a move. on dude and that's got a mentally affect. the other guys - were the like oh [ __ ]. he's out and big yep exactly your ego. gets ahold of it hold of you when you're. picking them bulls and make them other. guys take notice I think it's it's cool. when you see a guy that can have you.

Boal he wants to and he steps up and he. picks the one that he knows is gonna be. the most difficult one and like he's. done that a couple of times you know and. and it's cool somebody will get it in. hit me that six brushes started a three. like my childhood I can't feel my ears. anymore. we got a question I'm a white kid right. here this guy looks a lot more domestic. gorillas in the background it probably. is day yeah of course it is yeah I was.

wondering what your thought process was. going in to riding Heartbreak Kid Ganga. Ganga see he paid attention yeah that's. that bull we were just talking about. like that you got old me yeah I went to. the event and I'd ridden both my bulls. actually but I was really low on my. second one score wise and I was like. fifth in the event or something and I. was like well [ __ ] I gotta be a lot of. points if I'm gonna win it [ __ ] it give. me the hardest ride one he's net he'd. never been rode at that point he was he.

was the bull that got left at the end of. the draft every weekend because everyone. was so scared of him didn't like him I. was like [ __ ] it give him to me and I. rode him and broke his streak and it was. awesome and then with you next week in. it then the next weekend I did it again. and I was kind of behind an event I'm. like [ __ ] it I did it once let's do it. again and I got him road again so really. oh yeah I'm one both of is know I ended. up second on second and both of them. because I was he made up those points. for me but that guy went in leading it.

he just had so many points on me and so. the judges what are the judges for their. there they're scoring the guys and. they're scoring the animal so that's. like the thing that a lot of people. don't realize is like every one of these. Bulls is getting judged so that's why. the guys want there they want these. animals to be as well taken care of as. athletic as they possibly can because. they're watching to see how far the. question how difficult they are to ride. back and so they're marking them one two. fifty and then they're marking these. guys one two fifty on how easy they can.

make it look or how stylish they can be. or if they're just floating by and just. barely getting by so you know they're. they're they're looking at the animal. and the rider and putting the scores. together and so when so when you go into. the. event when you go towards the end you. want to get your thinking okay I have. this many points right now yeah this. bull is like sometimes you have to pick. the best well you have to really get out. there on the best one oh yeah I kind of. evaluated okay I might be able to take a. mid-range bull right now because I'm. doing I'm up by so much right now yep.

exactly. a lot of guys will try that strategy in. do you think I will you're on the Buller. so then are you thinking style like I'm. trying to do this with a certain Flair. or are you thinking I'm just trying to. stay on this animal so most the time. you're just you're just doing your job. doing whatever that keeps you in the. middle. staying on them but then if you're. riding and plumb easy you'll see guys. lift their leg and it's actually. spurring the bull and it's giving you. extra points essentially so it's showing. you're in domination and you're. controlling your ride and you're making.

a bowl just look easy and that's what. they just so you yeah so you're. competing so you're not just trying to. stay on for eight seconds you're also. trying to impress the judges exactly. you're trying to get as much Flair in. your ad as you can dig up your score. there's a lot more to it like like you. think about it I know that man it's a. seconds goes by so fast when you think. about it but when you're watching so. much happen so quick there's a lot going. on. it's like watching Flint and when people. start a fire you know it's like watching. that exact process right there yeah just. trying to pack it all in yep and do you.

go when so say when it's it's your. chance to go pick the bull will you go. look at them will you go down and spend. time looking at four before that Sunday. ride no you pretty much those top Bulls. you know exactly you've seen them. hundreds of times before that's and then. you get up on the cage out there and. it's with him and they got a big screen. of all the names and once you say that. they'll put your name beside him mark. him off so and on the tail the on the. action on the stuff you see on. television do you see them pick the. bulls or it's just matched up once they. show it it depends it depends on where.

we're at and like obviously you know TV. produce and stuff because a lot of times. you know if he's got the number one pick. and that heartbreak kids in there you. know our fans at home on TV they want to. see it if that's not a potential if. there's not something big right off the. gate then they might not show it on TV. but in the arena it's interesting. because he has been getting up the last. few weeks and he'll look at me and go. what do you thinking I'm like no bull. rider don't put that pressure on me. unions ya know I'm an open mind guy yeah.

you whatever he thinks I can win on I'll. take dance I'm one of those guys like I. want to see you guys be as high as they. can be every single time so that's. that's always my advice what's like kind. of the future of boron do you see a. change in do you see it is it great as. it is it's just gonna get better then. Bulls are they're producing them and. breeding them to just get better and. better so it if they don't keep doing. that with the bore out of soon there's. not gonna be a guy that rides all. weekend because the Bulls are just. getting better so and numbers have.

dropped and bore out as I think the. amount of actual riders yeah yeah it's. dropped over time and we need to breed. some men back into this world and make. some blow routers out of them because. why do you think that is I want the. truth yeah I think because society is so. scared of everything that like we're not. you know taking what what is it the hot. off the garden hose you know that hot. hose that ha hose hit yeah like we're. not literate item we're not we're. keeping kids in a bubble all the time. we're not letting them get life.

experiences we're not letting them get. their arm broke on the playground. we're so coddling yeah that we don't let. people have experiences and it's. something that you definitely have to. experience I mean and we just don't have. enough toughness in society yeah I mean. oh yeah we lose it out here I mean it's. going yeah many steps in the ocean yes I. changed out here do you think that do. you think that there will be like do you.

think there will be like a resurgence of. more men wanting a rod well here's a. better question what do you think it is. that makes like if there's a young guy. sitting out there is like I wonder if I. could do this okay perfect. what up Theo what up jazz just have a. quick question I guess it's kind of a. serious one you know I've always wanted. to to learn how to ride bulls I come.

from a long history of cowboys however. when my family moved here to the US. we moved into the city you know that. kind of part of our you know my family's. lifestyle was cut off man but I it's. it's something that nags me all the time. and it's just something that I want to. do that calls me man I wanna I want to. learn how to write some [ __ ] bulls. bro so I guess my question is what what. tips do you have man for somebody that.

wants to get started and to just [ __ ]. do it. thank you feel Gang Gang brother Ganga. that's tough you know when you get older. it just gets tougher to learn it if you. don't start out real young I mean it's. not impossible but it definitely makes. it harder when you grow up wanting to do. it and you take those steps like getting. on sheep then you work your way up to. little calves and steers you work your. way up whereas you're this age you can't.

start out on that sheet you got to go. straight into bulls it's just it's just. so hard when you get older but that. younger the younger kids that can start. out like that and get in with the right. people and make them take them. stepping-stones. really teach them correct and teach them. right it's just so much easier than. taking a full grown man and putting them. on a bowl because there's not Bulls easy. enough nowadays that you can learn on. really right there's no a lot of. beginner bulls really but I want to see. kids like from the city I want to see. kids that didn't grow up on a ranch. because we've got a couple of buddies.

like there's a guy Shaun Willingham he. grew up wakeboard you know just an. extreme sport and it was that adrenaline. rush. yeah and that's you know that's why I. keep going back to the more eyeballs you. know I want kids to try it like because. who knows you don't have to grow up on a. ranch you don't have to grow up in a. saddle to be a cowboy you know and we. say that all the time at the PBR now. it's like like cowboy is such a broad. spectrum term that like if you've got. those hardcore base values the Cowboys.

have come on you know come be part of us. come be one of us yeah this guy even. Walsh said uh that I follow on Instagram. and he's like a big surfer and he's big. into X Games and redbull type of stuff. and all of that just he's a just an. adrenaline junkie you know ya know into. and I would love to see him I would love. to see some of these guys crossover you. remember when the NFL went on strike. here like it's been. like maybe back in the early 2000s the. NFL went on strike whatever Chad. Ochocinco saw billboard that the PBR was. coming to town and he tweeted out that.

he was gonna start bull riding and he. came and tried he went to Ty Murray's. house he started working on trying it. and this is an OCO cinco's prime and he. came to one of our events and he got on. a bull and the direct quote you can. YouTube this and look it up it's it's. him saying I don't understand why these. are not the highest-paid athletes in the. world I mean that's a guy that premier. athlete tried it and sucked at it yeah. like was horrible but it's just it's so. so tough yeah yeah the funniest part. about about this whole deal is they.

didn't just put him on like a alright. bowler nerble this is the [ __ ] world. champion Bowl that year this is the. greatest Bowl in the world at this point. like let that just sink in oh my god I. would be so scared okay you can look. scary terrified but like he admitted. he's terrified and he's like okay we. good. and that's not a knock on him at all oh.

man I think it takes yeah dude's got. huge balls just to try it we're gonna. get you guys out of here just a second. you gotta ride them I didn't know that. yeah it's crazy. all right says let's do this we man who. is out Wow good for him brah in that you.

know Grady feels right now that he just. try how much respect do you have for a. guy that totally out of his element to. do that. I hope yeah it's right there in that. moment you have my whole perspective. sans changed so my perspective of him. saying yeah about most respect for that. guy yeah that's a while anybody that. tries that there's multi-million dollar. athlete and he just like I'm gonna try. Bora and just to just to see what's up. just to see Scott that million dollar. contract like yeah through it you know I. would have respect yeah that's beautiful. man thank you guys so much for being.

here today man I knew you guys got a. ride that so the reason we're gonna kind. of uh we'll step out man but yeah. there's been some educational I'd love. for you guys come back sometimes you. generally thanks for doing this awesome. well yeah that Xin has hit me in the. head as it is here then that's six bro. love it I just went about 48 minutes on. that six yeah party yeah anymore. Kingston thank you guys so much best of. luck to both of you man game. gang run we'll see you guys in the. future British fans now I'm just.

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