Parker McCollum | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #397
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and um. the acs are something. you know coils or whatever. um. yeah i mean it's like somebody just damn. put a bunch of heat in here. like somebody just damn back the damn. truck of sunlight up into this [ __ ]. today's guest uh. fortunately he rolls with the punches. because. hey boy. because we in here um. i'm i'm grateful to have him he has uh.
hit singles in country music he's a. music man. and he has hit singles uh pretty hard. and to be loved by you. uh i think if you if you like if you. like this podcast i believe you'll like. some of his tunes um. yeah i'm grateful that he's here uh he. was just voted best new uh male country. male. and that's. i mean that's you know. that's unbelievable. so um. he is extremely talented he's out of.
texas. uh. and um. yeah i don't know why i'm rambling but. uh. i i think i i need i i needed him to be. here today and so i'm very grateful uh. enjoy the episode with mr parker. mccollum. [Music]. i'll sit and tell you my stories.
[Music]. [Applause]. it's time to sweat. i know dude it's time to sweat. it's sweaty in here today it is sweaty. do you feel like it's sweaty in here not. yet i don't really sweat a whole lot. really yeah. oh dang do you think you might have uh.
because i guess you're from kind of a. desert area is that right no not at all. oh really from like the sprawling. metropolis of north houston. oh really yeah man i mean i grew up you. know out in the country but very very. close to. a lot of [ __ ]. okay very humid very hot is it i think. i'm just immune to it dang yeah you. might be man built up an immunity um. because you grew up out in uh i know. you're in texas and is that west texas. considered no no i grew up in southeast.
texas just north of houston um and then. i lived in austin ten days after i. graduated high school i moved to austin. and. i was like i'm gonna be a [ __ ]. country singer really yeah. sorry nerd i got in late last night. that's good though do you have a good. time. no man i did not i had a i think well i. mean. i don't know if i did or not. parker mccallum ladies and gentlemen. uh thanks for being here man man thanks. for having me i appreciate it yeah it's. nice to get to meet you um. yeah i had i had my i we had to go do an.
intervention on a family member. yesterday so it was like damn you know. have you you know shane gillis is yeah. yeah have you seen his live in austin. stand up. um is that his special yeah where he. talks about taking his sister that was. doing heroin and her intervention they. took her to six flags i haven't seen. that part uh-oh it's rich. gold dude then that's what we should. have done yeah because we took her yeah. we just wanted one flag it was like the. flag of surrender and cheated and you. know and um. and we didn't see it.
so it was just a long day man you had a. better day than me you played nissan. stadium yesterday i did yeah last night. that was good crazy man yeah it was good. dude it was uh. my mom was there so i think that's kind. of cool you know we're not. so. she probably didn't i probably didn't. look like the most promising prospect 10. years ago to play country music. successfully so i think that's. probably helps her sleep a little bit at. night to see it going well like that oh. really do you think that so 10 years ago. you think she didn't have probably as.
much confidence in you no i mean i just. i don't think i was you know if you'd. look at it from like a scout evaluating. a ball okay you say all right. he's never gonna make it. you know and then he makes it to the. league so. um did it feel like that last night. coming out there like with that i'm. making it to the league i mean that must. have felt like something unique i mean. not many people get to play a stadium uh. no matter how well they're doing man it. was cool i was so tired. and so hungry um.
that i was really excited to get done. with it and go home yeah but it was dope. certainly a lot of people. when was it the kind of the thing where. i am swa am i on dang drugs yeah but. it's kind of shiny and it looks good. it's bouncing yeah that's good. come get it yeah if there's anybody out. there with dry skin cold spice. commercial coming in. come give me a hug honey i will. definitely moisten you up um. yeah did it feel like so you're walking. out in front of that many people. uh can you feel does your body start to.
not because i mean i have feelings i'll. walk out in front of a few thousand and. there's moments where like i think. especially the first time where it's. like. okay are my legs still moving forward. like it's almost you disconnect a little. bit from yourself man that that's only. happened to me one time when we played. the houston rodeo at the beginning of. this year it's like the only time that i. was like gummy worm legs out there. you know i'd had like i tried to have a. couple cocktails take the edge off 71. 000 people sold out the houston texans. stadium we were headlining.
and the stage is rotating and i was the. whole like 60-minute show i'm out there. and i was just. it was just like a mess dude like i ate. [ __ ] on stage i've never fallen on stage. really i fell. it was great oh it was just yeah it was. the full the full experience. and when you were saying do you feel. like as you were singing that you also. like had control over what you were. saying because i would i'm trying to. wonder if because physically i could. understand maybe it's like oh man it's. overwhelming right it's like usually if. i'm nervous like one or two songs in.
you're back to it's probably the same. thing with doing stand-up like you know. even if you are nervous like once you. get into your jokes you're rolling right. you've done it a thousand times but that. was like the one night that i was like. the whole entire show i was just like. googly-eyed up there i could not gather. myself wow yeah so last night when i. walked out there i was just. i just i don't know you're kind of just. normal you've done it yeah yeah. dang it isn't it kind of interesting how. things that would seem like a dream. start to feel kind of normal.
yeah well that that like kind of messes. with me with crowds man when we go. somewhere we'll only sell like three or. four thousand tickets which is a lot of. people it's a lot it used to be like. huge for us and now when we only saw. three or four thousand i'm like. we peaked right over and the next night. we'll sell ten thousand but it's like. it's that perspective thing man you get. it's crazy what you can get used to yeah. very quickly yeah yeah how quick it. happens yeah that's really what's wild. um. so you started i know you started out. over there in texas man and uh tell me a.
little bit about like do you remember. like the first like song or anything you. ever heard do you remember anything like. that yeah the first like song i ever. fell in love with was amarillo by. morning by george. yeah which was a good one yeah yeah i. didn't even know what amarillo was man. and i remember i just played there on. saturday night wow yeah i called it. their national anthem on stage and i got. a real good reaction they liked that a. lot. um. yeah i remember hearing. i'm trying to think of the first oh i.
heard bon jovi was the first song that i. ever heard they're gonna be a big deal. yeah yeah the first time i remember. hearing a song bon jovi and i was with. like a babysitter i've told the story. before but i was with a babysitter and. so i think like there was also like a. woman there my mom wasn't there was she. hot yeah uh i mean she was yeah i feel. like all babysitters are hot when you're. the baby they're sitting dude yeah you. know oh i was like dang yeah i wanted. her clothes kendra scott actually used. to be my babysitter really kid yeah true. story she's dave scott who is it bring.
her bring her up trevin she was the she. was dating my uncle back in the day. kendra scott she's like the big jewelry. maker. all the girls wear all her stuff let's. get an image of her and that used to be. her babysitter huh yeah she watched me. when i was a little kid. and now she's like a billionaire oh she. is dang she's done very well. and uh do you have any recollections of. the babysitting going on no dude i don't. remember it at all i would not have. known had my mom not told me she's like. oh yeah she used to date your uncle and. she used to watch you guys dang and your.
uncle must have really he what happened. with him he couldn't he couldn't hang on. huh dude i think. i don't know i've never really heard the. full story but he uh it's my uncle chris. my dad's little brother and he was just. like a future hall of famer in the game. of life. was he true og oh is he and it does not. surprise me that he was pulling that. back in the day wow. he's been he's a real aficionado when it. comes to the gals there is no question. damn yes. i think i said i didn't get that part of. that that gene in the family you didn't.
no i don't think so dude i'm sure you i. mean you can't feel like you kind of. look like i mean you look like you play. like you would play center on like uh. on justin bieber's like fan on fantasy. basketball team i feel like i feel like. if he had a fan league basketball team. you'd play center i think you're you. seem like you're doing fine i would love. to play center on justin bieber's family. basketball team and may have missed my. calling. um. but you're locked down i know you. recently got engaged you recently got. married yeah yeah i got married i'm like. two months in was it uh.
and what does that feel like does it. feel different being married does it. feel. no i've been home like three nights. since we got married. so. it's uh is no different. at all dang other than now when i come. off stage i just get on my bus and go to. bed yeah so that's about the only thing. that's changed yeah so take me out of. them so take me where you start music. you start the first song you hear or. that you remember hearing is george. strait amarillo by morning that's the. first song you remember hearing yeah the.
first one i can remember being like. i like that that sounds good. i want to do that. and i was probably like. i don't know seven. maybe six years old something like that. but my older brother tyler he's like. phenomenal songwriter he was the one. that when i was a kid. you know he's big brother i just wanted. to do whatever like he could have been. [ __ ] ice skating and i would probably. be professional ice skater right now. like whatever big brother was doing is. what i wanted to do but he happened to. play guitar and want to write songs and.
i was like all right i'm going to do. that. so that's do you have no doubt that. that's kind of where you're where your. passion for it came from no question no. and i just i don't know i remember being. like a little kid and i would. hear that song or any song and i would. sing it and all the time but i don't. think anybody ever thought that i would. sing it for. or be singing 20 years later. so. and at what point did it start to turn. into kind of a job for you because or. even like a like how did it evolve then. into a hobby did somebody get into an.
instrument did you like were you like. dialed in at school and music no i was. like sweating so bad dude i think it's. good for a. i was just i just went for a run so the. lights look so good on the sweat dude i. would just own it. i'm opening it but i just i think it's. sharp dude i think it's kind of set in. the vibe. there's no question with the time of. year that we did this interview yeah. there's no doubt about that yeah it's. [ __ ] summertime the good thing is. summer's almost over though so not a. whole lot of heat left you know only.
about four months well at least two. months of her sitting right over here on. my forehead that's for sure baby dang i. feel lit up man it's wet i feel like the. lord is just. god washing me with his tongue. um. so i'm try dude i am so sleeky i can't. even like i feel like get my thoughts. together at all dude that's good man. that's what i feel like you're making me. feel better i was debating hitting the. pen before i came were you really yeah. yeah damn but it's kind of hit or miss.
yeah because sometimes you hit the pin. and like you're real funny and you're. witty and and it goes well and other. times you hit the pen and you're like. i mean just as worthless as could ever. be yeah i was like man i think i'll just. no pen this morning yeah i think that's. probably a good choice i mean it's yeah. i think that's that risk because you. can't tell exactly how much you're gonna. get yes you know and this my driver. shout out flex always gives me these. pins he always like sneaks them you know. when i'm getting out i'll like give him. a hundred dollar bill and he's a little. he's like the cr the pins nowadays look.
like they come from target anything in. the candy section yeah and they'll hand. me one and sometimes they're. i mean it's like you know doing crack or. something i mean you hit it and you're. like i don't dick what is weed nowadays. man back when i was in high school like. it was dirty and had seeds and stems you. know and nowadays it's like like you may. end up literally like dead it's so. powerful oh i feel yeah some of the. stuff man i remember hitting something. one time and i felt like they were just. like somebody had done construction in.
my head yeah you know does it make you. think a lot. hmm. well that's a good word like it made me. think i didn't want to hit it because i. would come in here and i would look you. dead in the eye. and you'll be talking yeah and then i'll. you get done talking i don't have to go. theo what did you just say because i'm. out there thinking about the fact that. we're on a rock floating around a ball. of fire in the void you know instead of. having the conversation that i'm a part. of and so i was like. we'll just we'll hit it after we don't. know where we go on the way home i feel.
like it gives my mind a vacation. sometimes if when i used to smoke it. would get my mind a vacation but somehow. i'd get too paranoid and then one of the. first times i ever got high was at this. girl's house and everybody had left we. all smoked weed and everybody else left. the room and then uh. i remember her dead i kind of like. her dad had been like sitting there. watching me be stoned like i was just. like laying on the couch being stoned. and it scared me so bad i thought i had. been in this room for like 15 minutes by. myself i was like talking out loud and.
kind of like. saying positive things to myself and. [ __ ] and then i look over. and her dad who is one of our teachers. at our school was [ __ ] standing there. dude oh no. and man i think at that point it made me. feel so in like kind of introverted. about. when i was stoned you know. and then i used to get um when i was. young me and my buddy would uh we ate a. bunch of no-does one time we were.
supposed to go pick these girls up nodos. yeah it was like caffeine pills you know. and this before we could get any weed. you know this is like we're just like. what can we do at the convenience store. to make us feel different than we do. right now yeah 100 baby. so. uh. yeah i took we took a pack man and um or. we took we split a pack or something we. were supposed to pick these girls up for. this date and we parked like by the. street and. we were so hot we just.
i don't know we could feel our hair. growing and [ __ ] and. and we literally we couldn't we couldn't. move and get out of the vehicle so we. just looked over at these. we could see them on the porch waiting. for us and [ __ ] and. and we just sat we just just sat in that. car for a long time. it's it's uh. like it's a hit or miss thing man. sometimes i hit it and i'm like. you know i've written some of some of my. biggest songs. yeah some of the biggest songs i've ever. written. or right after coming off of them yeah.
oh no it just makes me we think weird. and then. but it's so funny like. i hit that pin all the time way too much. and. every single time i take a rip of it for. 20 minutes i'm like i need to get my. life together i'm a failure this isn't. going well and then after 20 minutes i'm. like. damn i wanna hit that pen again that was. great you know but it's the paranoid. thing you're talking about. it's like every time well it's. interesting though because then why. would our brains be like hey i want to. hit it again yeah well it's because. after the the paranoid goes away you're.
like. oh this is great now remember like it's. like wolf of wall street when they take. the quaaludes. yeah you know and like you have to get. through the phase of like where they're. moving like snails like you have to. [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah you know that. it's like once they get past that it's. like pure euphoria. yeah that's a good point man it's like a. like a lesser example. of that. i'm trying to think i remember like yeah. i i if i smoked weed like i remember if. i was with a chick i felt like it made.
your girlfriend feel like a new. girlfriend. that was one thing that was great about. it dude if you if your girlfriend. doesn't it seems like the same old. girlfriend. and you hit a little bit of weed bro. yeah surprise you i remember one point. sitting there having to guess my. girlfriend's name bro yeah because i. didn't know you know that's a lot a lot. of options too it's hard to get it right. you only got one you know. and you can't ask her i was looking. around the house for clues and [ __ ] yeah. reading old valentine's day you gotta. take them to starbucks right.
and let them order a coffee and then. they put their name on the cup and. that's the old trick. that's a great idea if you wake up you. don't know who she is you take them to. starbucks praise god baby that [ __ ]. vintay for vanessa yeah. oh is that what it is that's it dude. that's classic man i never tried that. that's a great trick man. we had a question come up with uh well. i'm just. this this today's just been a [ __ ]. day bro uh i'm glad to be a small part. of it yeah yeah dude thanks for coming.
man i appreciate it i'm sorry you catch. me on such a weird time i almost. i was like should i even cancel. yesterday i didn't want to cancel. because i'm happy that you're here you. know dude i'm like the king of canceling. so hadn't you canceled it i've been like. hell yeah let's do it another day i love. canceling plans i don't think there's. anything there's no better relief you. feel like when you have something yeah. you know like last night had you had a. dinner you had to go through after. everything. that you went through yesterday if you. had something you had to go to. you would have been there the point. comes like an hour before.
we're like dude. i don't want to go actually stay home. yeah and like the greatest relief in the. world. is when you make up your mind that you. don't give a [ __ ] you're canceling oh. yeah like after that then you're just. like oh we're not going oh you know but. it's like that when you're stressing. about having to go. and you decide to cancel it's like it's. better than any drug in the world dude. damn that is interesting that is a real. high canceling no question because. especially if you have a good excuse. especially if you do yeah i had a great.
one yeah. i was like dude i've been in a. yeah i've been in an intervention i. would say that yeah that's a gravy one. usually i'm like hey i'm tired. yeah you know and you just sound like a. [ __ ] like it's not. yeah i never have a soul was tired we're. in there like pleading you know and they. said it was like three hours. and it was um. it was good but it just and then when. you come up with the l and an. intervention you're like damn you want. to get the squad together how do we. regroup who do we send in next time. should we have done matching outfits.
like how do we get this right you know. do we need a baritone like what do we. need. to pull off the solid intervention and. then had you had a dinner last night and. you'd been able to cancel or cancel this. podcast today you've been like [ __ ] yeah. i'm chilling i got the whole day to just. screw off now which are the others those. are the best days that's my weed pin. dude. yeah dude it's a it's a hidden gem among. people who are very busy bro that's a. great you should do like sometimes one. of your buddies is flipping out about.
something you have to do take his phone. and be like hey i'm not coming we're not. [ __ ] going yeah dude i i look forward. to it all the time and then you know. like it's it's a blessing and a curse. right it's good to be busy yeah it means. you got some [ __ ] going on some people. are expecting you to be somewhere it's a. good thing right. but sometimes i'm just like. [ __ ] dude i'm not going yeah i don't. even have an excuse yeah i'm just not. [ __ ] going dang i can't make it. mm-hmm sorry about it oh that's. beautiful sorry about it it's my dad's. birthday.
i want to make that a license plate on a. car i'm like a cool corvette yeah make. it my dad's birthday so. just see you always be like why did. what's what does that mean oh it's my. dad's birthday sorry yeah. it's the greatest excuse. dude that is a great excuse man wow. thanks bro yeah now i feel much more. relaxed honestly. yeah because and then the planes got. delayed and i'm like how do i thought. about just driving or just getting a. driver that was just like what are we. even doing and i was in baton rouge so. it was just like.
you know just like it was just a lot and. it was just like. family people had been crying it was. just like jesus you know yeah somebody i. thought that was going to get high. because of the intervention i'm like. yeah i'm going to need. i'm going to need to uh what is the drug. of choice in this intervention i don't. know we didn't know what they were on oh. that makes it super that's a way that's. a whole other. ballgame that's like a guessing. intervention it was a lot that's like. yeah it's like if the members of the. game clue. had to have an intervention like mr plum.
or something. he'd be like i think she's doing heroin. with a needle in the laboratory you know. i think so. yeah i think she's doing opium with a. curling iron. in the trap house in the trap house yeah. dude you're saving my day today man. thank you bro thank you for making me. laugh man i'm glad dude you uh you may. you have made me. literally cry laughing staring at my. phone oh thanks multiple times so i'm. glad i could turn the favor i appreciate.
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so yeah i i want to know a little bit so. like you kind of have been picked as the. guy like you get these they get these. accolades in the business side of music. right. and you've had a lot of those right like. this is the guy that you know the pick. to click little things that rhyme you. know like click or whatever you know. what i'm saying like the uh. the uh. you know like the. uh. i don't want to say like the key. i'm trying to think of a good one like.
you know the next guy to shine you know. what i'm talking about and a lot of them. are great like you know from. i don't know if it was the country music. awards that gave you like the top new. mail artist of the year right. yeah right congratulations thanks man. yeah it's amazing what i'm trying to get. to is. how do you get like is there then some. type of formula is there's and what. pressure comes with how to. fulfill that because really it's kind of. like saying hey bruh here's a bunch of. pressure. yeah no man no is that what it feels. like maybe that's my interpretation not.
at all dude uh the awards are cool you. know like i watched the award shows as a. kid. so yeah it's cool to be on them you know. it's just kind of like kind of like the. stadium thing last night you know you're. like. damn i used to sit out there now it's. kind of the same concept which is really. cool but. man and i don't know if it's if it's a. blessing or a curse but i just don't. give a [ __ ]. yeah you know i really don't i just want. to. be as successful doing this.
with as much integrity and respect. as i possibly can trying to do i've done. it the hard way you know like started. from the very very very bottom in my. pickup truck got a van got a trailer got. a nicer van got a tour bus then signed a. record deal now we have like three tour. buses 18 wheeler the whole deal. did it the long hard way. how i wanted to do it and so the awards. are great man the the number one song is. great double platinum song awesome. but. it just doesn't like that's not what.
makes me feel successful you know it's. uh they're they're like just little. bonuses i guess um but there's no really. pressure i mean. you know whether you win that award or. you don't you still gotta put out. another record and you still gotta go on. the road next weekend you know so it's. they're great but. um i don't know if you're not doing it. if you're not relevant in like twenty. you look like george strait dude he's. like say he just turned 70 and he's. still selling out like us bank stadium. yeah. you know i'm 29 i just played at send.
amphitheater in nashville yeah i had a. long [ __ ] way to go dude so the. awards are good but. very hopefully the very very beginning. of the road. and what gets you to that next like is. there a thing is it more. you know because i wonder i i don't know. if it translates with comedy but it's. just like is there some i guess is it a. certain type of song that kind of. like what do you feel like you have to. have then to continue to keep a. a trajectory then or even a.
a. continuation of man i think i think it's. the songs and that's what i tell all. like you know the it's weird now that. there's like young guys asking me stuff. because i was always the young guy. asking the stuff and now i got these. younger kids asking me. for advice and stuff and i'm like dude. if you don't have the songs. you're [ __ ] yeah like you may have a. good you may have a big single on. country radio. maybe i mean if you have songs you can. sell tickets and that's how you tour and. have a career right so.
that's like the biggest thing man you. got to have you got to have you got to. write and have the best songs like garth. brooks. i mean mega hits george strait mega hits. you look at tim mcgraw any genre and. that you know country music really. probably has the most longevity of any. genre it seems like it looks like rap. and pop music like you don't see a lot. of 50 year olds still killing the game. and popping rap but there's people. getting murdered all the time yeah a lot. a lot of dying a lot you know it's like. yeah it's not like every couple of weeks. uh you know a young tim mcgraw gets.
gunned down somewhere no you know dude. he probably you've seen him. have you seen him agrawal lately i just. the bullet would show 1830 too the. bullet would probably bounce off and. dude he's nasty ripped really yeah dude. go look at his instagram. he's like 50. god and would just piece. me up bring him up there let me see that. man. he is a seriously god. i wish i was uh. tim mcgraw's name tim mcgraw dude.
uh og also a future hall of famer in the. game of life probably oh this guy. yeah i saw him in 1832. he's um. there was a good there was a good. picture just but can you just go to his. instagram brother. he's nasty rip though dude like nobody's. gunning him down you know. yeah i feel like they could gun me down. pretty easy really especially if i was. if i'd hit the pin already.
probably easy target moving slow when. you if you get off stage here he is. right here dude. yeah but we use it on the road quite a. bit too it's called the bar complex and. all into it and it's a combination of 10. or 12 exercises for the purposes of time. and so many people out of work we do six. and we have two each round we'll do our. i mean he's making a million dollars on. stage that night. and he's out there working out at 11 a.m. oh wow he's doing that look at that.
oh look at that i mean what a g dude. and you're going home to faith hill and. you look like that come on dude you. gotta really care i would have mirrors. all over that's good. i'd have just mirrors in my house i'd. get rid of the damn wallpaper yeah. nothing but mirrors i want to look at me. baby oh yeah. i want to look at a little bit of extra. time sit down for dinner dear lord i'd. like to say grace and letting everybody. thank you for me amen. [Laughter]. take the a and the n out of it baby me.
me um there's no i and amen but there's. me you. [Laughter]. thank you lord for me yeah. yeah man um. do you have a a a a routine when you're. out there on the road what's that like. for you nah man super lame yeah super. bummer i either wake up and play golf or. i try to go to a gym and work out not. like all timmy over there. um i like to go. i like to go and put a lot of weight on.
either side of the bar. and sit there for like 20 minutes on my. phone. and then i'll just take the weight off. and go back to the bus but i play a lot. of golf on the road dude oh really yeah. nate bargatz is a comedian uh who plays. golf he is. phenomenally funny yeah very funny yeah. unbelievably hilarious but. that's kind of the cool thing about. touring is i mean you're in a different. city every day right so you can play a. different golf course every day now some. days. you're playing like these really nice. country clubs that you're not even good.
enough to be playing at and then the. next day you'll be like albuquerque new. mexico playing like antler hole yeah. community golf course and it's solid. dirt oh yeah it's a halfway house. there's meetings and stuff going on. there's 12 step meetings on the fairway. yes do you have you played albuquerque. uh yeah we just played there. a couple weeks ago maybe we were in las. cruces or albuquerque something like. that let's discuss it. there's not a lot going on albuquerque. is. unbelievable bruh dude everybody at the. gas station had a parole officer with.
them yeah. with them dude it was like it's like the. wild wild west out there dude. yeah like will smith and whoever was in. that movie with him is going to roll up. on that little spider leg deal any. minute. yeah it's almost like if i saw a drug. dealer i would be at least happy to be. seeing a business person yeah yeah a. hustler yeah like oh man glad to meet. somebody with an llc here. it is uh. drugs incorporated bro.
i just never been to anything like that. i didn't know what was going on you know. and they were uh and uh i was talking. about this the other day but. they're always like talking about the. aliens and stuff i was just about to say. that it's like the drugs got to be good. out there because they're seeing ufos. we're not seeing anywhere else. and you don't have any video footage of. them it's like all of a sudden everybody. has a camera in their pocket and we're. not seeing any videos of these ufos. because the aliens are the people. they are we may be the aliens. it's not us bro we're passing do you. think only the citizens of albuquerque.
we're we're coming to the zoo to visit. you know and it's not i'm not saying. it's the citizens but it's there is. there are. easily aliens or. you know um. bots or what i don't know what they're. called drug bots i don't know what you'd. call them in albuquerque but they are. woven into the fabric of. the heat the species there maybe that's. how they're getting that stuff into the. united states i mean there is uh it's. definitely. some there's fentanyl in the dna over. there they're sucking people up into.
that ufo and they're dropping down. kilos of. coke and all kinds of stuff maybe that's. how it rolls out there. i wouldn't there's uh i wouldn't be. surprised if they are um it's like a you. it's like a greyhound station for ufos i. think that's a great i mean i'll tell. you this it's not somewhere it wouldn't. be on the top of the list of places to. retire yeah yeah. you know if someone told me that they. were retiring. and headed to albuquerque to live out. their days i'd be like. are you in prison yeah yeah you know. yeah did you just catch a large sentence.
and that's what you mean by julia yeah. this is my federal retirement yeah. because i think uh. yeah dude it just blew my mind because. we went to the gas station there was a. lot going on you know a guy in there is. like promising the lady he's like hold. my cell phone. and let me pump as much gas and i'll. come back and get my cell phone from you. and she's like that's not a deal for us. she's like i have to give your cell. phone back and you get gas but he like. didn't understand the deal and then this. is all just at a gag where i got a pilot. or a loves or something you know and.
then there's this other guy walking. around like this like with his arms like. above his head you know like that. and uh. and he had a parole officer with him. and it was just like i've seen the. backstroke and i've seeing the front. stroke but this was just. this guy was like don't don't don't. don't don't yeah. that's all he said bro he was like i. think he worked for peter or something. you know it was good alien drugs oh dude. i'm like this dude is definitely.
this guy's. like they they gotta start putting uh. birth control in the heroin i think. that's what they got they may not you. may be on to something there because i. feel like that's getting out of hand. there's a lot of people nowadays yeah. there's a lot going on um i haven't. considered taking it. really no oh. did it ever i always wanted to smoke. crack honestly that's an honest thing. and after seeing wolf of wall street i. did want to did you [ __ ] smoke crack. with me bro lions and you know that. yeah i never wanted a smoke crack until.
i saw that video so i saw that movie. man they look man they make it look. great god they do yeah and they're just. super rich and they're dressed really. nice smoking crack i'm like. i know for you know the long game yeah. that's probably not the play yeah but. for the immediate like 24 to 48 hours if. you had 100 million dollars in a nice. suit. like let's say you had like 48 hours to. live i'm smoking crack. when you gonna do it though in the. beginning or at the end of the 48 hours. uh maybe like the last six hours i heard.
it last a long time so yeah. you know go go like skydive. and then maybe smoke crack on the way. down. before you land. it'd be so hard you'd have to get in. like a little box or something to be. able to probably light it in there. i do they have to have pens by nowadays. that's true huh crack pen crack pen dude. i got i was at a smoothie place in maui. this dude's like hey you want to do some. dmt right i've never done it. did you do it yeah and and uh it's.
incredible. yeah it was crazy well this guy takes me. back to his house with his wife and. there's children running around and then. that is not ideal yeah that was a bit. much sure this is the place to do it. it's not good and they're like sure you. know. and uh they had like this little dish of. macadamia nuts i remember and i love. those and so i took that as like a sign. like i'm you know. you know everything probably going. pretty good. and uh. and i hit it man and it was. yeah. it was definitely i mean i went out. there you know i was like.
i remember feeling like i was at like. i kind of went into the speaker at like. a drive through like a like a. like a drive-through food place like a. sonic or something i went into the. speaker and then i [ __ ] worked at a. foot locker i remember. i remember getting it didn't last very. long no it lasted me i don't know maybe. six seven minutes yeah what was your. experience like man um and where were. you i was in austin texas i was living. on ut's west campus university of texas. west camps at the time i was not.
enrolled in school not enrolled i was. writing that first record the limestone. kid i put out. and uh. there was actually um this kid from. india. who was a chemist that we had gone to. high school with that was was majoring. in chemistry at uh university of texas. and uh he had like ordered the bark from. like the amazon rainforest or whatever. that whatever chemical that they get for. the dmt yeah. and uh. and. mark came in he made it like in his and. now looking back i'm like.
that like our thought my thought process. that day probably should have taken a. little longer. um but my buddy mom was in town and he. was like hey let's go over to this house. and then this he's like he's incredibly. smart this kid that we went to high. school with and he's chemistry major and. he made this [ __ ] in his dorm room. and everybody took a little hit and i. crawled out on the fire escapes like a. monday morning at 8 am and i like saw. myself as a kid. like i saw a little like five-year-old.
me running across our front yard and the. house i grew up in. and then all of a sudden it was back and. i felt amazing afterwards like just. complete did you feel that way. afterwards i felt a little spooked out. for all that don't know what dmt is it's. the chemical in your brain that makes. you dream like we talked about smoking. crack dmt is not crack yeah i know just. for the listeners yeah it's like the. opposite of it yeah it's like can't harm. you. i would recommend everybody one time in. their life does that because it's like. is very. i think it's a good thing. yeah it gave me it's not like a hardcore.
drug no right yeah yeah you're probably. not going to see somebody like you know. you're not going to get in like a back. alley or no you know there's not going. to be a shooting over dmt. but it's a crazy it was wild dude and. then like a few minutes and you're out. of it and i was and felt totally normal. felt great dude just. like on cloud nine anyway. yeah i think i don't remember well i did. it then later because then i got i was. like i want to do it again. because i thought i could get to the. next level it was like a video game or. something suddenly i'm like oh i want to. beat that level see i've been different.
like all that kind of stuff like any. kind of psychedelics or anything i just. like one or two times and i'm out. i think they're my i think that like. that's what those should be like people. who like like i had buddies that would. eat mushrooms like. all the time yeah and i'm like. i don't think those are for that right. you know like. welch's grapefruit snacks. 10 15 packs no problem. but mushrooms. probably probably don't want to buy the. box yeah of those you know just a. one-time two-time deal.
yeah yeah. that's interesting man yeah i think. everything's kind of like that you know. but yeah i remember that dmt man and. then we went outside and did it and it. was like in a park and then people were. recognizing when we were leaving and i. felt like i could see kind of skeletons. a little. and that wasn't good so i don't think i. want to do that again you know skeletons. do you want to be happy you want to be. positive i want to stay on the joyous. side of things yes um we had a question. that came in about partying and stuff on. the tour can we get to that.
yeah i'm sorry so i don't hear jesus i. don't know what happened did we at least. we need to call guinness book of world. records and so we just we just did the. hottest podcast. all time. it's got to be we should go do one in. the sahara desert and really set the. record get rufus to seoul to play mm-hmm. do it in albuquerque. you could do it in albuquerque the [ __ ]. is somebody left the oven on up and out. it's been on for 100 000 years out there. dude yeah. they don't even have like bushes and.
stuff it's so hot dude they got people. there yeah they got to do with two. tongues and he'll be he'll be standing. there talking to a dude with no tongues. and you're like this is insane do you. have his tongue or this is damn. serpentry both of those years let's play. that up buddy. theo parker huge fan of both of you guys. absolutely insane to see you doing a. podcast together very very excited for. it uh my question is for parker i'm uh. i'm a texas guy born and raised been a. huge fan of the you know the more texas.
style of country music you know and uh. you kind of hear a lot of tall tales a. lot of speculation a lot of crazy. stories about uh. you and co wetzel on these tours doing. crazy stuff doing just all kinds of. shenanigans i'm wondering if we can get. a story or two out of you some crazy. [ __ ] you and co have done that'd be. really really cool to hear coming from a. fan. uh thanks guys gang gang gang baby yeah. co is unbelievable dude co is like uh. he's like a disco ball and a cowboy boot.
kind of you know he's really um he's one. of a kind i want to to come on here i. think he's going to at some point a true. future hall of famer in the game of life. that young man. [ __ ] he's parked mcguire dude he. really does it he's great man and it. kind of bugs me sometimes because. you know people overlook how good of a. singer he is. because his show it's all about you know. so hardcore rock and roll such an. entertaining show. and no one ever talks about how just. [ __ ] good of a single like his voice. is incredible he's such a good scene the.
first time i ever met him and heard him. sing i'm like. i'm [ __ ] very unique. yeah dude and uh incredibly creative and. if i was a fan i would i would be a huge. fan if i was just a man i would be a. huge fan of his because i would he he is. like he gives those people 110 of. cowetzel oh he's tootin i mean he's. almost. the sweetest guy in the world dude he's. very he's extreme he's so generous yes i. mean he's just east texas boy dude he's. that's how that's how it rolls out there. man a lot of just very well raised uh.
but as far as oh man crazy stories um. yeah there's one in particular that. comes to mind. uh man i hadn't thought about this in a. long time. we uh we were playing in waco texas um. and uh. this place called the backyard and we we. used to do this acoustic tour during. christmas time him and i and uh even. before we had bus tour buses like first. year we did it we were just in a van. together. and uh we do like you know six nights.
the week before christmas it's acoustic. go play bars you know and it's like the. level of entertainment was just. unbelievably uh underwhelming. because we were just so messed up every. night by the time we got on stage it was. a lot of fun. and uh. the first year we ever did it we played. waco at the backyard and. uh before we even went on stage i mean. we were. floored dude like i mean i don't even. remember being on stage. and uh. after the show he wanted to go.
to. uh the titty bar. and i don't know if you've ever been to. the titty bar in waco but it's smaller. than this room uh there's like two. dancers. and uh and i've that's never been my. thing i've never been a fan of the i. never wanted to have to pay to touch you. know what i mean yeah and uh but co. loves them loves them dude and uh he may. be buried in there one in one of those. ones oh he looks like he loves it yeah. he loves good hitter and uh and i have. no disrespect i cast no judgment i i. don't know look if i've got to go into.
one to get to where i'm going i don't. mind passing through you know um. but we come off stage he wanted to go. there and and uh and so we. i don't know who drove us to uber or. somebody drove us this this it's the the. worst. it's like hall of fame. not hall of fame yeah you know worst. hall of fame ever titty bad titty bar. yeah really bad scoliosis i know that. yeah and he will so so we go in there. and we have a few shots and. we don't even we didn't even like no. girls dance or anything we're in there.
for like 30 seconds and he orders a. drink. the room's very small. and he picks the drink up in a glass and. just slams it against the mirror on the. wall and just shatters [ __ ]. everywhere and i'm like. dude we're literally either going to. jail or we're going to die. like it was it was it was a scary. situation. and he just doesn't give a [ __ ] dude. like he is just like that's his titty. bar. well so they kick us out and we have to. go into the parking lot we don't have a. ride we don't have anywhere to go it's.
like 1 30 in the morning in waco. and it's like a tuesday night you know. the first night of that tour. and dude. well dude i'm like i'm sitting there i'm. like [ __ ] up on my phone trying to. find a way to get us out of there. and i look over and he's in the road on. all fours yeah crawling at oncoming. traffic damn boy true [ __ ] story and. i'm like i'm like i'm sitting there i'm. like oh my god he's gonna hit my [ __ ]. car but i'm too [ __ ] up to do anything. yeah so. pamplona yes and so eventually he you.
know he gets up off of the road and and. somehow or another somebody came and got. us and took us back to the venue and. there the venue has like this apartment. you stay at. we go in the [ __ ] apartment he starts. kicking holes in the wall and he's like. he's like screaming at me in the face to. kick a hole in the wall i don't want to. kick a hole in the wall and he's like. he's like you're not [ __ ] going to. bed till you kick a hole in the wall so. i have to kick a hole in the wall oh. damn yeah and i get so i get real you. know even more [ __ ] up and i end up. laying on this little air mattress and. in all of my clothes and i wake up at. like 5 30 in the morning coast still.
awake and he's yanking my boots off and. he's just going i never let you sleep in. your boots pete i'll never let you sleep. and just yanking my clothes off of me. and i'm like like vietnam i'm like dude. that was like one of the first times him. and i had been on the road together and. i was like. this guy means business. crazy he's one of my best friends in the. world dude i love him i i would take a. bullet for him any day of the week um. he's a hero i mean he is like beloved by. people yeah dude he's what do when you. when you go that hard. and you give that much to yourself to. those people every night yeah you know.
you're gonna get that in return. yeah he i mean he definitely i mean like. there's something about him where he. will give uh he'd give everything he had. to give you all the blood out of his. body 100 percent he's a dude he is a. great dude and i and. everything that kind of surrounds him. and his brand and his vibe and. everything i just. i don't even think people understand or. appreciate just how like good naturally. of a [ __ ] he can just. belt yeah like we get [ __ ] up seeing. frank sinatra. and he can just rip it.
it's really impressive. yeah he's got a. i mean he yeah he'd give you the blood. right out of his body how much blood is. even in a body i wonder how much blood's. in a body in there having you pull that. up like five or six liters maybe. is it liters damn huh we've gained it. i mean i'll tell you global warming is. not affecting that [ __ ] huh how many. liters are in a gallon see that's the. problem they give you all these charts. approximately 1.2 to 1.5 gallons okay so. that's like you think about a. gallon of water.
that's just one and a half of those. that's crazy i think that's all that's. in us huh i would have thought that was. way more i thought like a little half a. baby pool. half of a baby pool of blood. i wonder if that's ever. been a thing if that's ever. has there ever been a baby pool full of. blood i would hope not. a god i hope not. but yeah i mean i don't know if i could. yeah it's definitely we are here we come. about to find out we are on the last leg. of production staff here as they google.
baby pool full of blood baby that's. awesome um. so how do you get to that part where you. know uh. you're just learning about music and. then you get to the part where you get. you and co are going out and touring. together. just get me through some of that. timeline man. i put out my first. record the limestone kid in 2015. [Music]. and. um i had a song called meet you in the. middle that was that kind of blew up off. of it and uh.
i had a uh twitter message i had like. just gotten a twitter and it was from. this guy named cowetzel and he was like. hey man like your stuff you know let's. haul it it's right sometime or whatever. and i mentioned back i was like yeah you. know what i would love to. and it's like 2014 2015 something. and uh actually ended up meeting this. guy named jake murphy who's one of uh co. and i's greatest friends also a future. hall of famer in the game of life. um one of my favorite humans on earth. and uh he was buddies with co and and he. had started to roll on the road with me.
he was tour managing for me at the time. and he was like man you got to meet my. buddy co and i'm like dude i think he. messaged me one time on twitter i think. he's a singer too right and he's like. yeah he's really good and. um so he we the first time we ever hung. out we went fishing uh i think i want to. say it was on like the leon river or. something in stephenville whatever name. of that creek or river was and it was. like us three people in the smallest. john boat that has ever been made. and uh. and we were fishing and the river had. flooded we almost just had a great time. and um started hanging out and um.
you know i mean we just kind of ran. around with the same people and i i was. kind of rolling a little bit all at the. time i had a little bit of steam going. in texas and and uh obviously when i met. him i was like dude he's so [ __ ] good. i was like people got to know you know. so. i was trying to kind of you know. whatever i could do for them and they. didn't need my help whatsoever like they. were. they were raw they were there was no. question they were going to be big time. and uh and but me and him just became. really good friends and and uh we were. kind of the only two in our.
circle when we started to see a little. bit of success that kind of understood. you know kind of the things that were. going through our minds [ __ ] we were. dealing with and stuff and so that's. really kind of where. i think we became really good friends. was we kind of had each other to be like. yo. you know talk about your [ __ ] yeah yeah. and um. and so i mean it was i don't know. probably a year or two later i was. sitting at my house in austin um working. on that next record and he called me and. he's like hey man i wrote this song. called love. would you want to finish it write the.
last verse and and sing it and i was. like yeah do you mind if i kill her. and he's like no that'd be great so i. wrote the last verse of love like right. there i think i was still on the phone. with him i was like what do you think. about this he's like yeah it's great. let's cut it and we went and cut it and. it was a huge song for him. and did a lot for me too i got way too. much credit for that song more than i. deserved certainly um that whole that he. he really deserves all the credit for. that i just killed her in a little small. verse at the end. and uh man it was like the second that. song came out it was like all right get. ready to be a rock star because i mean.
there was no question in my mind he was. gonna be a superstar so. i love him dude he's gonna i would i'd. take a bullet for him any day of the. week people love him because i get a lot. of requests a lot of people ask me about. him just spending time with him i got to. go to the super bowl with him. and uh. dude we had such a good time yeah i mean. he's just so much. he's just so much fun yeah and he's just. so dang lovable yeah you know he's such. a good dude man i mean yeah. i think people see him and. and you know the way he looks and the. way he acts on stage and stuff and and.
they probably think that's like. you know like he wakes up in the morning. and it's just like. that away but i mean he's really just a. good dude man he's got a huge heart and. i mean just a good person i love his. family he comes from good people he's a. lot of heart i bet he has more than five. leaders in him the hundred percent way. more than a baby pool good hole i think. he got the hell yeah i think he's a six. liter man i think he has a. album cover or something a baby pool. knowing i think about it i think he is a. damn six liter man bro yeah he could. maybe that's a new nickname for co six. liter man yeah dude because he's got.
yeah you need to have him on that dude i. mean he i know i just want to have him. on just from the pure stories. um. and i've also been i mean i just went. through texas touring yeah so it kind of. was like you know. um and i i was we talked about you on. the uh on jelly roll was in here a few. months ago talking about you and i don't. know if that part made it in the episode. because there was some lighting issue. but um. we were both singing a lot of your songs. and stuff and. um and then when i was going through.
texas i was like oh man this is kind of. the perfect time you know um. because i didn't know texas was what it. was man we went through midland and. lubbock yeah and um. and that's when we went through. albuquerque. and it's i mean it's. they got some real people out there like. just people hiding out out there. there are some people hiding out there. people hiding behind cactus you'll see a. lot of dudes and they'll just be walking. around like this it's like this is great. you've been hiding behind a cactus bro. west texas west texas is its own animal.
man. yeah yeah it's just it's its own thing. it's almost like being on mars but with. ranch dressing kind of i always say it's. like corpus christi without the ocean. i've never been to corpus that's what it. reminds me yeah but i love western. school there i grew up in east texas um. and so southeast texas and so pine trees. like thick ass national forest stuff. like that yeah so west texas has always. kind of been like you said like mars to. me like there's no trees yeah there's no. bushes yeah not a lot of grass.
and then people come out to the just. like where'd they all come i know dude. and dude we'll sell eight thousand. tickets there and i'm like what are. these people doing yeah but it's great. man i love west texas midland odessa. lubbock um we've played el paso we just. played amarillo this past weekend um. that's so cool man so i love it out. there but yeah it's amazing how big it. is how many people are out there but. yeah i thoroughly enjoyed it i just. couldn't believe it like we'd pull up at. a venue. and we'd look around in the parking lot. you couldn't see anything forever yeah. you're like where how where are they but.
where's people going to come from. you know. but then people it's like you're going. to see like a mars rover pull up. 10 thousand people get out i know yeah. like an express. it's like the the last like that into. all the way out to california there's. just not a lot. going on you know there's like vegas. plopped in the middle out there it's. like the oasis but i mean it's just like. a whole stretch just like still like the. wild west man there's just no telling. like if you want to like if you're. wanted yeah by the law and you love. hardcore drugs yeah you have like a.
thousand mile stretch right there where. no one's gonna find you and you can get. great drugs yeah so that's true man you. right there you're really on the front. porch of great drugs coming up through. mexico and stuff that's beautiful. um. look i've been burnt out. for a while. i've had a lot of burnout i mean just. exhausted. you know my body's sweating. stomach growing hair falling out.
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stuff if you had any troubles with it or. whatever any point where you wanted to. kind of rein yourself back in or yeah. man i got um i i do not go near as hard. as i used to now i kind of i had to i. kind of had like a um. just a point where it was really through. covid like i hadn't been off the road. like that since i was 22. wow when i. started going on the road and uh. i mean sitting around with money in the. bank and nothing to do you know living. in downtown austin there's plenty to get. yourself into at the time and uh i just.
went. a little too far and i had a couple. nights where i was like. you know. is this it kind of thing yeah and but. well you know. next day i was like i got i got i got to. get out and i'd been dating holly ray. for a while and i was like. you know it's uh i'm if i want to see 30. 35 40. you know it's probably i just had i had. to get out dude i started you know it. all started partying and and all the fun. and games on the road and then.
um you know when you when you take that. stuff back home with you and you're by. yourself. still doing those same things. that's when i was like. i think and i had so much to lose man. like my career started to really go well. you know i had pretty heart went number. one in platinum and i had a major record. deal and all this stuff and. and i was just going down the wrong road. and nobody knew like i didn't go to. rehab i didn't go tell anybody and tell. my parents i didn't tell anybody i told. my brother a little bit um but i just. kind of was like dude you're a grown.
[ __ ] man you know and you got a lot. to lose and you got a lot on the line. um. and it's gonna be. a whole different ride. and probably a lot shorter ride if you. keep on the road you're on so i just. [ __ ] woke up one day and i was like. i'm done dude wow i'm out. good for you man that's powerful thank. you. that's powerful to have that ability to. have that wherewithal and then but also. to have that ability i think that's. where some people lack that. to say this is it you can get used to. anything that was really the way i. looked at it i was like dude you can you.
can it's you get used to something so. quickly yeah you know anything about. like i'm sure you're talking about. earlier you've been on a private jet. yeah how easy is that to get used to. i just applied that same. mentality to the [ __ ] that i was doing. that i wasn't supposed to be doing and i. was like i can get used to living. without this yeah and it took a little. while. um but i was like i just i had to get. out dude i didn't want to i didn't want. to live i like i love being on the road. and waking up in the morning and feeling. good yeah like i look forward to the. show.
i look forward to writing a record and. going to work and and trying hard that. was like something i didn't think was. cool for a long time yeah now i'm like. dude trying hard's dope as [ __ ] like. trying hard is a great. thing that i wish i would have. realized a long time ago i used to think. trying hard was like for losers yeah you. know this guy. [ __ ] put an effort in what a. ding-dong you know bro that's so. captivating because yeah when you're. like if you're kind of going through. school and stuff when you're in high. school and if like there's some dude.
trying real hard you're like this dude. is a nerd yeah what a loser yes yeah but. then you kind of get around in your own. living your life you're like oh man if i. took what i net some of the natural. blessings that i've had. and applied some hard work to them yeah. damn babe it could be lights out man i. was living in that condo in downtown. austin. dry wall dog i'd be hanging drunk in my. lungs and there's a bar on top of that. building that's residents only that's. open from like four to two a.m every. night. looking over the city it's a super dope.
place to live i'd never lived in the. city before i'd always live you know on. land or out in the country whatever and. um like inside the city like that i'd. never lived there and uh. and i wanted to do it and so it was a. lot of fun it really was it had a lot of. good times um but. it just and i think anything any good. advice i give to a young dude i'm like. set your time. pick your age like you're going to go as. hard as you can [ __ ] go you're going. to party until. 28 or 35 or 25 whatever it is and then.
that's your heart out and after that. it's time to try hard okay. so that's good advice man we had a. question coming here about suggestion. right here from a young fella let's get. to it real quick here. what up the uh what up parker. questions for parker so parker i'm. getting ready to move to nashville. as a songwriter and i was wondering what. advice would you have for. making those industry connections and. getting them better rooms and just what. advice would you give to somebody. getting ready to move to nashville to. try and do it. appreciate y'all ganked yeah hey baby.
man i don't know. it's kind of a general question but he. seems sincere about it yeah i mean dude. it's it's uh. it kind of goes back to the trying hard. thing man i mean you can you don't have. to live here. you really don't george strait's the. king of country music he's never lived. in nashville never moved here. uh i moved here because i had to get out. of what i was just talking about in. austin like i had to go somewhere i had. to get out and. and that was my. like the only option for me at the time. and i can't wait to move back and buy a. ranch uh and move back to texas but. man.
some other people are here there's a lot. of people trying to do it. but if you don't know what you're trying. to say. and you don't know. who you're trying to be or who you want. to be. then it's going to take a long time to. figure it out in this town um i think. you have to know like when i'm when i. started coming here randy rodgers from. the randy rogers band was managing me at. the time he's the one who told me to. come here he's like dude i think he. could be a superstar but you got to go. to this town and do it i didn't want to. go i didn't want to come here. and even when i started coming here i. would call him and i'd be like dude.
i don't want to be here anymore like i'm. i don't want to come back and he's like. you need to like just trust me and it. was the greatest decision i ever made. shout out randy rodgers um. and uh and so. to that young man right there dude i. would just say know what you're coming. here to do before. you know what i mean like what kind of. what do you really want to be you just. want to be a songwriter then you need to. have some songs. that are absolutely as stout as a song. can be as well written as they can be so. when you come here you have a little.
something to. to bargain you know you have a little. something to negotiate with it's kind of. like when i signed my record deal i was. already selling a bunch of tickets all. over right so i had all the the ball was. kind of in my court on the record i. didn't have to sign one i wanted to sign. one right so same thing as a songwriter. if you're coming here trying to get a. publishing deal. have a little something to publish going. already you know and be like hey i've. i've got these songs you know have a. little something in and you know you. don't just want to come in empty-handed. and you get signed into a bad deal. because you don't know any better and. you don't have anything to offer.
um so that's a great point man yeah and. i think knowing what you have planned i. notice at the comedy store in los. angeles that's like a popular comedy. spot right there. and uh. and there'll be people that go there. they make uh the mecca out from wherever. you know to different cities or whatever. town they're from they get you know and. i'm gonna live here and then some of. them choose to just be somebody that. sits on the porch and drinks there every. every every other night you know it's. like. okay that's fine it's definitely a way. to be you know but it's like.
are there you really living out what. your goal was you know some people yeah. they just they'll move to l.a and. they'll get invited all these parties. and stuff but then they're just up in. the hills doing coke every night and. it's like. you know five years go by it's like okay. well what were some of your goals and. aspirations did you really have any yeah. that's a you know i wish i had to set. some of those lines in my own life at. certain points same dude well dude i. just real i realized like as organically. as you can watch it unfold like the. people around me i was like. man nobody's like.
no but everybody's coming over to my. house to party but nobody's trying to. make any money nobody's trying to build. a career nobody's trying to hustle. and it just took me like going to the. bottom of that hole. to be like. the [ __ ] dude trying hard and taking. care of your business and acting like a. grown man. that's cool [ __ ] yeah like it's not for. losers right it's really [ __ ] cool. yeah and i just it took me a little. longer to realize it then. i wish and do you think that some people. never get there some people never. realize that some people realize when. they're 60 some people are born like.
that i guess like my sister she was born. like that she's just hustling out the. womb yeah um. oh yeah some little babies come out with. a watch yeah dude i like they're they're. just destined to hustle and everything's. success yeah you'll see a baby some of. them cut their own umbilical cord. absolutely dude like damn i uh um i. thought my sister made probably michael. was probably one of those people um. but yeah i don't know it's uh. i wish i would have realized that. younger but you're not you're not old no. you know you still got a lot of time and. your music is kind of like um you still.
make music that almost fee. it's funny because your music makes me. feel. [Music]. your music makes me feel i feel young. when i listen to your music that's stuff. you know so i feel i don't feel like it. has because it only can have i feel like. music can really only have as much. history as you have. if somebody's really to believe it from. it yeah you're right what you know right. and this look i don't know anything. about music i'm just a person with two. ears. but. um. but yeah your music makes me feel like i.
don't know i sing along to it you know i. feel like. my sister's it's not. you know like nowadays in country music. there's so much pop influence yeah like. a ton it's like basically rap in a way. pop music. and uh and like like wallen is like. that's the the greatest pop country i've. ever heard in my life dude yeah like he. it is the songs the production his voice. is so [ __ ] good dude but i like. that's just not like i i love that i.
have that to listen to. i love that that's what he's doing but. like i'm so boring dude i just like. writing sad country love songs about. everything going terribly wrong yeah. and yeah i did and that's what this. whole podcast is about half the time. yeah we'll do that i just that's like. what i love and i'm and i'm like. it's kind of hard to. you know it's like so so much of the of. the genre of country music especially in. nashville is so pop influenced and. mine's just mine's not and so it's like. i i really struggle all the time i learn.
i write songs i'm like. who the [ __ ] is he gonna listen to this. [ __ ] you know it's not making you bob. your head it's not making you want to. dance or drink beer like it's making you. want to go [ __ ] text old gal that you. swore. you would never talk to again. kind of thing big feelings yeah dude. that's my favorite song. it's my favorite favorite kind of song. so you know lamenting thinking about. things looking back you know and i think. what's interesting about it here's what. it is for such a guy for a guy your age. to have some of that perspective you.
don't get a lot of that sometimes yeah. so i think that's what i think is really. enjoyable about it because it makes me. feel kind of young and old at the same. time that's dope um. because there's some perspective in it. you know it's a lot of looking back it's. a lot of like uh like you're driving. away from something i feel like a lot of. times yeah you know a lot of leaving. yeah a lot like this is the record i'm. writing right now like every song is. about going somewhere and leaving and. i'm like. who the [ __ ] wants to listen to this. [ __ ] you know hopefully a lot of people. but theo vaughn i'll listen baby dude i.
thought your name for i listed you for a. long time before i realized that your. name was theo vaughn. i thought it was the ovon yeah do you. ever get that oh yeah yeah okay i'm not. the only one. okay yeah because i i was i would always. be like dude you guys know this guy the. ovon yeah and like [ __ ] you dom out. there yeah. it's two names bro from albuquerque yeah. albuquerque turkey dude. uh let's get into one more question that. came from a uh. from a fan for you so i just want to. make sure so that we got so you started. out music you started out in texas yeah.
you. and where'd you get your first. instrument where'd you get into music i. just want our listeners to know. everything about you because someone. else may not know of you no 99 of them. don't um and they're probably going to. be like they're going to love you though. who's the dip [ __ ] well gold chains oh. you saved the day today thank you you. did i appreciate that for my first time. ever must be known um. blue ribbon for that man dude my i. played like orc like everybody in like. fifth and sixth grade was wanting to be. in the band and i was like [ __ ] that. dude no one's doing an orchestra i do. orchestra i just started playing the.
violin. and then can you still play that [ __ ] no. and then. um my mom bought me a guitar um just. because she had my brother wanted one. for christmas and she didn't want me to. be all upset that i didn't get one right. so she bought me one and and my brother. would never [ __ ] teach me anything. like he would never he'd like i'd be. like yo way to trying to play that and. he'd be like dude [ __ ] out of my room. and uh and so i really just had to like. yeah you know i like learned on like the. internet once the internet very first. like there was a thing called cowboy. lyrics. on the internet back in the day and you.
could look up like chords how to play. and i'll learn how to play chris knight. songs. and uh that's when i was in like seventh. grade. and i wrote this song called one man. mariachi band. and it was about like going to mexico. and running away and starting a one-man. mariachi band. and uh so that would end up in my my my. mom was like hey that's pretty good so i. like kept doing it you know and then i. wrote a song my freshman year high. school called permanent headphones it's. not on the internet or anything anymore. i think you can find it on soundcloud. and uh my brother was like dude. like he came home from college and and i.
played that song for him permanent. headphones and he was like. he's like dude you're going to be the. next george strait and i was like. damn that's a lot of pressure yeah dude. i was like like. ease up on that dude you know uh. but it was him saying [ __ ] like that and. stealing that confidence in me that i. actually might be good at it. um and so i just i fell in love with it. dude i was like i mean you know all my. buddies when i was in junior high in. high school listened to. like at the time it was like. chamillionaire and. um like flo rida and yeah all these.
rappers that were big in like the. mid-2000s yeah and i was listening to. chris knight and adam carroll and slade. cleaves and james at merchant and robert. earl o'keene and randy rodgers and pat. green and crosstainer ragweed and um i. mean just all these great songwriters i. was like obsessed with it and todd. snyder i was just completely obsessed. with it. and i had no friends that listened to. that so it was kind of like and then. once i got into high school and i was. like i was a real average athlete like i. wasn't going to play college ball. clearly and i was like hard huh no not.
at all dude and i was like. because i would like realize when i was. like a sophomore in high school i was. like. i was like i'm not faster than anybody. but i can play guitar and sing better. than every one of those son of a [ __ ]. and so my junior year of high school i. was walking out of the workout and i. told my head coach i was like i'm gonna. quit football go play guitar and he's. like that's the biggest mistake of your. life. also if he's a texas football coach he. has to say that yeah it's the only line. he has like if you pull the string on. his back like have you seen daisy.
confused yeah and you know pink and he. doesn't want to sign the contract he. doesn't want to play on the team he's a. quarterback he's real lazy okay. i was like and that's like one of my. favorite movies of all time and i was. just dead set on being. that guy. and all my buddies were like dude you're. such an idiot for quitting football what. are you doing and i was like yeah [ __ ]. that and now what are you doing. now every one of them's like. damn dude i saw you on television yeah. i'm like damn. y'all see about the limestone yeah let's. go you see me on theo vaughn.
gang baby shout out my buddy jeff bean. if he's watching this man he was super. stoked i was coming on here today he's a. big fan was he yeah well thanks jeff bro. praise god bro praise god. yeah i'm trying to think of what else to. talk about man i think we got i think we. got a good dose of of you man i don't. want to keep myself super underwhelming. dude i always apologize when people come. up and ask for pictures and stuff i'm. like i wish i was cooler to meet i was. like i'm sorry i'm super underwhelming. being met is underwhelming though yeah. being met i feel like it's like you. can't get met yeah you can't like.
compete with what you're capable of or. whatever your skill is it's like as a. human you falter to feel like. you know people be like yesterday i do. came between the airport bro i was like. it was plain delays and blah blah blah. blah like that he was like are you theo. von braun and i was like not today i'm. not yeah. i said [ __ ] not today dude the. airport the airport can be the worst. because usually like if you're on your. way it's like a thursday you're flying. somewhere to start the weekend yeah. you're like oh yeah [ __ ] out let's take. some pictures like good to see y'all too.
but if it's on sunday yeah and you're. like a connecting flight home you know. and you just feel so shitty or so. hungover and you got people mobbing in. the airport it's like. [ __ ] this yeah you know but y'all i'm. always trying to be as sweet as i can be. oh totally be patient with them take the. pictures but i'm just always like dude. i'm sorry i wish i would like i just. write sad country songs yeah there's. nothing very impressive about it yeah. i'm talking next baby i'm just i'm. basically just a musical kleenex. you know. um. parker thanks so much man honestly bro.
you really made my day man i mean i just. uh and i hate to you know make it about. me it was just a [ __ ] it was just hectic. yesterday and i was like how do i do. because i was like how do i get my. feelings and my mental back to a regular. level where i can just have a. conversation that's heavy [ __ ] dude. yesterday sounds like it was some heavy. [ __ ] so it was just like yeah it was. i've been through that with it with. someone in my family back home and uh. it's still it's he's still going through. it he's still. battling that every single day and uh. and so i've i mean i i get it dude 100.
i've been down that road with him. well thanks man thanks for being. understanding no sweat dude yeah thanks. for carrying the show today bro yeah i. really did i'm just glad to be here dude. i'm a big fan i've watched it a lot i. still think the ray charles reverse. ghost joke. is one of the greatest jokes i've ever. heard i tell it all the time and uh i. heard that and i was like i want to go. on that show oh dude well that's awesome. man yeah i appreciate it bro yeah i. didn't know what it was gonna be like. man you really saved the day today so. thank you dude yeah thanks for coming. through uh parker mccollum guys if you.
guys haven't heard him check out his. music man if you like if if you're. listening to this podcast. then a lot of his music is going to fit. right uh it's going to fit right inside. of your heart man all one point. three to five liters baby oh all three. leaders baby the baby pool yeah gang. baby.
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