Neil deGrasse Tyson | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #683

He's the most famous astrophysicist in. the world and maybe in some other. worlds. We don't know. You know him from. his show Star Talk. He has a new book, Lost in Space: 5,000 Facts for. Navigating the Universe. We caught up in. his hometown of New York City. I'm. grateful for his return. Today's guest. is Neil Degrass Tyson. I know me.

and I will find a song I've been. singing. >> We got to ship some of this bad ass out. into space, man. That's what I'm saying, dude. >> You know, it's expensive, though. That's. the problem. >> Yeah, >> there's a lot. There's more talk than. action. >> No time like the present, man. Neil. deGrasse Tyson, good to see you. Thanks. for having me back on. Oh my gosh, it's. been a few years.

>> Yeah, it's a pleasure, man. >> And you're in my town now. >> Yes, I was going to say. Yeah, we're. here in New York City. We had a. chauffeur on and he talked about uh he. was from the Bronx and he talked one. time about. >> the Bronx. Say right. >> The Bronx. >> There you go. >> He was from the Bronx. >> The Bronx. >> And it's I heard there's a lot of Asians. over there, too. So, from the Bronx. >> Well, not when I was growing up, but. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he said that there was. a time in the 70s when they used to. bring swimming pools over there, like a. a pool, like semitrs uh into his. neighborhood.

>> I I don't remember that, but I do know. that occasionally if you had a. charitable fire department, they would. open the the the fire hydrants and and. you can they're these sort of uh uh. covers with holes in it and it would put. spray onto the street so that you could. play in the street. So they'd crack open. the fire. >> They crack that open. But I'm looking at. your images now. No, I I I don't. remember those. Oh my gosh. And I was in. town at that time. Is this in the Bronx? >> Yeah,

>> that's cool. >> Yeah, this is the Bronx. It says this is. 1970. So that's. >> Yeah, I'm around. I'm I'm old. I'm an. old fart. So. >> But you were barely alive. >> You were barely alive. >> But yeah, I was just I didn't know if. maybe you would remember that from. growing up, you know. >> Yeah. I mean, hot times in the city, you. know, the t, you know, the street gets. hot and it's just hot in the summer and. no one's in school and so I think it. keeps keeps emotions tamped down so that. there's no unrest. >> Yeah. Last thing we want, huh, that's so.

true. Um, you have a new book, uh, Lost. in Space: 5,000 Facts for Navigating the. Universe. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's co-produced. with with between my podcast, Star Talk. podcast, and National Geographic Books. It's like our fourth collaboration. It's. gorgeous. And it's and it's it's 5,000. facts in all categories. And it's But. they're not just facts because you can. just Google facts. Yeah. They they.

they're startified. >> Oh, a starified fact. So So I'll give. you an example. All right. >> Okay. Instead, ask me how big is the. sun? >> How big is the sun? >> I could say it's 864,000 miles, but you. can Google that. Or I can say take 100. earths and line them up. That's the width of the sun. >> Wow. Really? Or if you're hungry, I can. say if the sun.

were a. sesame seed bagel. >> Mhm. >> Earth would be the size of one of the. sesame seeds. >> That big guy. >> So I'm just saying the the facts are. just a little more pop culture infused. >> I see. >> And little more pizzazz. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just just so that you will. never forget it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You're not going to forget the sun. and the earth right now. And I norally. have bagels in Nashville. >> Yeah. Well, also my brother is deathly. allergic to sesame seeds. >> Well, then there you go.

>> So, I'm not going to forget that at all. >> Don't forget that, >> dude. I actually I read in your book. that um Yeah, I was perusing through it, man. It's a it's like Yeah, it's just an. engaging book. It's like. >> Yeah, you just you pick it up and open. it and there it is. >> Open it to wherever you're and you're in. it. You're in like you're out in the. universe. Uh I mean, literally. And uh. one thing that I read in it was uh that. the human brain has 100 times more. synaptic connections than there are. stars in the Milky Way. And that I mean. and that blew my mind. >> Yeah. It's it's impressive.

>> Yeah. That. >> so is our brain more complex than like a. galaxy? >> I would say so. Why? Why can't I say so? I'm going to say so. All the stars are. interacting with each other with the. force of gravity. But in your brain, there's like chemical reactions, there's. electrical reactions, they're being. influenced by other reactions that. happen before. These are your memories, there's there's sometimes you get like. an earworm, a song gets in your head, you can't get it out, it's firing all by.

itself. Uh or you have these emotions. that make you tear up or bring joy. Yeah. The universe inside your head. is. surely more complex than the universe. itself. Which brings the question, how. is it possible that the universe can. make something more complex than itself? >> Wow. Is that possible? >> It's it has happened. So, unless you.

want to say God did it, but then that's. kind of a little bit of a copout because. then I say, "Well, who made God?" Then. you have to well God always was or God. you have to I could ask you questions. and put you in a place where you're. stuck saying something that you just. have to assert to be true. >> and so. >> but there had to be a beginning. Well, we have a big bang, but that pushes the. question earlier. But who lit the mess? >> Exactly. Who it was before the big bang? And only in the last couple of decades. did we look at our equations that give.

us the big bang. And there's data that. support it as well. But you look all the. way back and say, "Wait a minute, these. equations are popping out other. universes.". So maybe there's not just a universe, maybe there's a multiverse. M. >> if there's a multiverse then our. universe is just one of some uncountable. number of other universes. So then you. have to ask what was around before the. multiverse. And here's another one that's a little. bit mind-blowing. You go far enough back. there's Earth and then the universe.

Well then, no, Earth is just one of. eight planets. around the sun. Well, the sun. There's. something spe No no those dots of light. in the night sky are just like the sun. Damn. The Milky Way galaxy. There it is. Then Hubble discovers in 1925. 26. There are other galaxies in the. universe just like the Milky Way. So. everything we thought there was one of.

there isn't. There's countless others. among them. But we got one universe. >> Maybe not. Maybe there's a multiverse. Well, if the universe never makes. anything in ones, could there be only one multiverse? Okay. Is there is there a a network of. multiver? Is it a metaverse? You know, we're running out of adjectives there.

Yeah. But, uh, it's it's it's. >> it's to think about it is very is. humbling. And not enough people are. humbled in their life. >> Some people needs need a dose of. humbling as far as I can tell. >> I think you have to think to be humbled. and and a lot of us aren't doing that. You know, >> you think you think. >> and half the time, myself included. Um, >> or they act before they think and then. they regret it or they or they try to. justify it after the fact. Oh yeah. Look, I mean, you've been reading my.

diary, but um what makes us able to. think? >> Well, if you talk to evolutionary. biologist, they will tell, >> which I haven't, and I'll let you know. that straight up. >> I have. So, >> yeah, I've been talking to my buddy. Rick, >> right? And he's neither evolutionary nor. biologist, right? >> Uh well, honestly, he's been doing. duster. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah, he'll be fine. But back to where. we are. I'm just saying I have. >> I I value objective reality. >> Okay. Yeah.

>> And and the brain barely works as it is, >> right? >> So to start stirring in chemicals and. say let me do more do something else. with my brain. I don't want to be that. far removed from what is objectively. true in this world. >> Oh yeah. He's been he's been hitting. that keyboard cleaner. You know that. dude's got a space bar in his head now, dude. >> Right. So the question what was the. question? It was oh so evolutionary. biologists would say our thoughts. when they evolved were just sufficient.

to not die and stay alive long enough to. make babies. >> Like what do you mean by that? So the. first thoughts were just like okay I. need to stay alive. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh. >> and I need and I need to procreate. >> If I do not run away from this lion. I will die. Well, okay. Let's say you. have three kids. One of them said, "Oh, I wonder what that is." Rustling in the. brush. Let me go find out. It's a lion. They get eaten. >> Yeah. >> That curiosity is removed from the gene.

pool. Okay. >> Oh, that's a good point. >> Yeah. And the people say, "I don't know. what that is, but I'm a little bit. afraid. Let me go the opposite. direction." They live another day. They. have babies. So, curiosity is not always. a good thing for your survival. >> if you're curious about things that. could kill you. So, that's first fact. and plus you want to make more of. yourself so sex matters. Yeah. All. right. So these are simple thoughts and. you know that thing where someone throws. up and you smell their throat up and you.

want to throw up too. >> Oh yeah. What game is that called? It's. one of those challenges I think on Tik. Tok isn't it? >> Oh, is it really? Oh okay. Why wouldn't. it be? It's a Tik Tok, right? But there. there's an evolutionary reason for that. We're tribe. We're here. You ate. something before the rest of us did and. you just threw up. Mhm. >> I'm I don't I'm I don't want to eat what. you just ate. What's the my body's best. way to tell me that. I want to throw up. just the way you did. >> So that triggers that's a chain reaction. in your tribe back in the cave. So we.

all throw up and we're all better. because it happened to you. >> Okay? And so. >> it's why we react in these ways. So the. evolutionary biologists would say we. have thoughts that are for this reason. Okay? Okay, I'll give one more and I'll. bring it into the present. Um, >> but some of the first thoughts were for. to keep us uh surviving. >> Yes. Okay, got it. >> Okay, so now now watch how that unfolds. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Uh. Okay. And we we care about our tribe. >> Mhm.

>> Okay. We all kind of look the same. We. smell the same cuz we're like eating the. same things. We're wearing the same. clothing. We're hanging out in the same. place on Earth. >> We're buddies. >> We're buddies. Right. It's all of that. Okay. Here's another one. You go off and. you come back with the, you know, the food for tonight. >> The deer or the. >> deer, whatever that is. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Sack of dogs. >> I go out and I don't come back with. anything, but you come back with the. elk. Okay. >> Well, you had some abilities that I.

didn't. The women want to have babies with you. >> Let me say that more precisely. We'll. say it again. >> Let me say that more precisely. >> Those who it didn't matter who they have. babies with. If I really have some. inability to bring home the bacon and we. start having babies, my offspring. doesn't have that ability either. We. simply die off. We starve. Whereas your.

branch of the tribe thrives if it's not. enough food for everyone. Your branch. will thrive. So there is evolutionary. selection to. to favor. women who. seek out we we call it the alpha male. but it's the male who brought back the. food. >> But in the end you're saying that some. whoever could think and recognize that.

So that's. >> you wouldn't even have to think. Suppose. I I don't care who I'm going to want to. have babies with and then we all have. babies and none of us can feed. ourselves. we simply die, >> right? >> You die and your gene pool does not. propagate. So this behavior that is. survives. th this this this this very very very um. you can think of as an unfair but it's. it's favoring the fittest. >> Okay. >> Okay. That's what it does, >> right? Evolution is about not only your.

survival, about the death of everything. else that did not fulfill that moment. for its survival. Here's my point. All of these things that mattered to our. survival back then, in modern days, you. just go to the grocery store to bring. home food. >> Yeah. >> Nobody's bringing home the elk on their. back, the deer. And so, >> but if a girl sees you with a bag of. Takis, she'll pull up. So what I'm. saying is. >> I mean you're not saying. >> what I'm saying is these elements in our.

behavior have been hijacked. in modern civilization. >> Okay. So. you care not that the person brought. home the deer. but they're bigger than life. They're. bigger than the other. So what today is. bigger than life? Somebody a movie star. someone famous famous people have. hijacked that element of our tribal.

behavior. >> I see what you're saying. So it used to. be the person who was able to provide. and like the way with like actual with a. skill. >> a skill and a thing they're bigger than. life. >> and survive. >> today. You don't even need that but the. urge is still there and famous people. are doing that which which is why famous. people you know. it's. >> yeah they get Celsius deals. I mean, >> I see what you did there. >> Celsius is my word. I just want you to. know it is a temperature scale. Okay.

>> Whatever else it is on your show, I'm a. scientist. Is a temperature scale. >> So, but you're saying so that like some. of the things that were like inaugural. in our. >> Yes. >> And like our most primal sort of. abilities that helped us to survive and. advance. Yes. some of those um and that. also were mechanisms to help us to. procreate and move forward. Yes. That. those have been hijacked by these um by.

these like superficial practices. >> The urge is still there even though. society has made it irrelevant. It's. biologically there. So So, so when I. talk about these tribes back then and. you have a little watering hole, wait a. minute, somebody's coming over the. horizon. Who's that? Well, they smell. different. They look different. What? They want my watering hole? Um, not. That's not going to happen. >> And so, we're going to fight. >> Okay. That's a survival thing. >> Today, water comes out of the freaking.

faucet. >> Yeah. >> But we still have tribal urges. And the tribal urge is out of control. It's like even when people look alike, they'll still tribalize. Well, you pray. to this God instead of this God. >> You look, By the way, the two of you. look identical. Okay. Just look at. remember Ireland, we had we had Catholic. Irish and Protestant Irish. They pray to. the same God out of the same Bible, but. there's two branches and they're. fighting each other.

>> The the Shiites and the and the and the. Sunnis, they're both Muslim fighting. each other. >> So, so it is so deeply within us that. even if we were the same, we would find. ways to tribalize against it. You have. long hair instead of short hair. red. hair instead of blonde hair. You can. tall instead of short. And if you are. all of that, but you found something. else to tribalize behind like where. you're born, your skin color again or. who you worship, what what what's your.

sexual preference that becomes a thing. and then people fight over that. So I'm. surprised we have survived this long. >> Oh, you think we're hitting about to hit. a culdeac? >> I'm s I'm sad. I'm just sad. Oh, you. really? Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. people. It's like they're only. happy. when they have someone else they can be. angry with. >> How how is that? So, >> but do you think it's serving us as. humans? >> No. No. Of course, they're more humans. now than ever before. So, clearly it.

hasn't hurt us that badly, but. um as our weapons, the power of our. weapons grow and we still have tribal. feelings, um it's going to I don't think it'll end. well. The toughest part I think is that. um the people, the populace are at a. different space than the governments. now. But it feels like we're at a place. now where um it's not even the people. that want a lot of that. But it's like. you we're just sitting here almost like.

heading wherever the government's going. to take us, >> which is unfortunate because it's. supposed to be government by the people, of the people, for the people. Agree. And if it's not that then I don't know. what we mean when we say 250th. anniversary of our democracy you know. and it's. >> um people say freedom 2 it actually was. not 250 years of freedom. because women didn't vote until like. 1920 or something. So they were not. participating. in the leadership. So what it is for 250.

years, it's not a democracy and not a it. was only a recently a democracy, but. what it has been is kingless for 250. years. >> And I like that. >> Yeah. >> I don't want anyone who by birthright. claims they have power over me just. because whose vagina they came out of. I. don't I I'm sorry. You got to earn this. You got to show me that you're someone. worth following. Yeah. that you've. earned my respect and my loyalty and my. devotion. And if you haven't done that,

go home. So I I'm proudly say as an. American 250 years without a king. >> Yeah. I don't know how we'll get out of. this kind of space that we're in. I. don't want to get in like a woe is us. kind of space, but it does feel like. kind of a scary it feels like a scary. space. >> right now because everyone's fighting. all the time. But do you think they're. fighting because they want to be? Or do. you think a lot of it is that they're. being programmed to fight? >> Yeah. They're only happy if they're. fighting, right? And plus, social media. is an outrage engine.

>> You go anywhere on, hey, what are they. doing? I hate that. And it's just it. feeds it. And then you come back for. more and advertisers love it. >> Yeah. >> They love it. So it's it's feeding your. tribal urges. >> We're a little trapped. And and and. think about advertisers. What do they put in an ad? Okay. They. put in someone you want to have sex with. and then you'll do whatever they say. because you want to procreate and make. more babies. Yeah. >> Okay. And you're doing it because it.

feels good, but evolutionarily. it kind of had to feel good to make more. of you. I mean, otherwise we'd go. extinct pretty quickly. >> What are you saying? >> What? >> What are you talking about? >> What? >> What are you saying right now? Um, what. am I saying right now? >> Mhm. >> I'm saying that we are being. manipulated. >> Oh yes. >> By advertisers and they know these. primal evolutionary urges and they. exploit them. >> Yes. They've got this spear to a sharp. tip, Neil, you know, and that is spooky.

because it's this new sort of survival. in a way where it's like it used to be. the lion in the woods that you were and. now it's sort of this like. it's this algorithm. It's this black. hole for your attention. And once your. attention is gone and it's not on you. and your wellbeing, >> someone else is manipulating it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, I worry. So, so if. aliens arrived. >> Mhm. >> I would ask I wrote a book about aliens.

too a few months ago. >> Yeah. >> Like if you your first encounter with an. alien, it sets you up for that. >> Okay. >> What is it like a how to do like. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a complete. >> like a first date type of. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like So, for. example, if an alien Oh, yeah. Um, you. know, lands and walks up to you and. there happens to be some appendage. sticking out, don't grab it and shake. it. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you don't know what part of the. alien that is. >> Oh, yeah. And you probably don't want to. find out. I'm guessing. >> that's a space branch. >> Um, if an alien came down and they had.

technology that got them here, my one of. my first questions would be how did you. survive yourselves? >> Like what do you mean yourselves? >> Yourselves how. >> oh. >> will their own technology, >> right? Cuz we may not. >> we may not we may not survive our own. technology and maybe they're all just. peace, love, and aliens. Peace, love, and you know make love not war. Well, I. mean, >> you know, the evil alien trope is so. common. Evil aliens is just want to. >> Well, that's because I think that that's. been how they've been I don't want to.

say aliens have been been pigeonholed, but I do feel like they have been. >> Yes, they have. But what do you think we. get that? I think we get it because they. have a a more advanced technology. obviously cuz they got here and we. haven't visited them. And anytime humans. with more advanced technology have. encountered other humans with less. technology, it has never boded well. Yeah, >> for the they've been enslaved, killed, tortured, ex uh uh molested.

>> And so I think the evil alien. concept. is our own fears placed upon them in our. storytelling. It's a mirror to how we. know we would behave in that situation. And that's unfair to the aliens. >> because they could just be peace loving. aliens for all we know. >> Yes. I'll tell you what I think the. aliens are. I think we end up in this. space where um you you don't use your.

body as much anymore, right? You're uh. you're you're on screen, you're digital, things get technological, maybe they put. a chip in your whatever and your body. after just like like eons of nonuse and. thousands of years of non-use just. starts to like turn into just sort of. this shape and your eyes which are the. things that like you still are pulling. information in from and maybe they put a. contact lens in that then expands over. time. >> and then I believe that we just become.

the aliens. So all we're seeing the. aliens are just us in the like coming to. visit. >> Interesting. Because. >> like an older us, you know, >> because the aliens are hardly ever. jacked when they come down the they're. usually thin. >> Yeah. Well, they quit lifting weights. centuries ago. >> And here's the crazy part. I think. aliens that come here, like if you see. an alien like ship in like in uh on. Earth, I think it's almost like a like. an alien family somewhere else like the. like the parents took them on like a. shitty trip for like summer or whatever.

And it's like they could go to anywhere. else in the galaxy and they're like. mom we gotta go to Earth, you. know. And so that's why we don't even. see a lot of them because it is like. some jacked up alien tourist. destination. >> So this is a low attraction point in in. in the book. Right. Okay. >> Unfortunately, I think that that's a. possibility. Prize Pick is America's number one. sports pick app. The app is really easy. to use. That's the truth. For player.

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>> Monday, those who hunt and fish in the. area shared complicated feelings. >> Wow. >> Construction on what is slated to be the. world's largest rocket launch site is. expected to begin in rural Vermillion. Parish next year. Those who live, visit, and play nearby have mixed feelings. about the development. Um, Peon Island. is the closest residential area to the. proposed site of Starbase, Louisiana. M. >> it is made up of it's just it's such a. crazy dichotomy. >> It's such a.

>> Well, Texas was in the running for this. and. >> but we got that big. >> So So apparently you it landed there. So. what's important is that east of the. island. I I don't know the map, but it's. important that there's water east of the. launch pad. >> Really? Why is that? >> Because as it launches it wants to orbit. the Earth. Typically it goes east. If. something bad happens and it blows up, it then falls in the water. >> Not on residential property. >> Oh yeah, bro. They got a lot of like. boats. They got people sleeping on each.

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>> Well, I mean, so right now, I mean, Starship carries people. Um he's got his. Falcon launch, you know, hundreds a. year. So, every few days there's a. launch. >> and it's going to be people on it. Uh, Starship is designed for people, but um, so it that could be where he launches. people to go to the moon. Who knows what. the future of that's going to look like, >> bro. >> So, here's what happened in Huntsville, Alabama. >> Mhm. >> When the government says, "We got to. compete with the Ruskies because they're.

going to they they got German rocket. engineers. We got Warner Von Brawn. Let's build a rocket, dude." They put. him in Huntsville, Alabama. >> Rocket City. >> That's well, not yet. It's some. backwoods place in the south and he. says, "I need engineers. I need. mathematicians." And so people moved. there and they didn't want to send their. kids to the local schools. They built. new schools. Industries followed it. And. that section of Alabama is like it. landed from space. It's a it's a high. tech corridor in Alabama, unlike other.

areas of Alabama. So that would. completely change the economy of. southern Louisiana. Oh, it's gonna be. wild down there, man. They'll have. definitely unique style rockets. You. probably have a peacon crusted rocket, you know, a little bit of a little bit. of crawfish ammon rocket. They're going. to have it all down. I. >> haven't had crawfish in a long time. >> It's going to be beautiful. But I'll say. this, if they just let strangers jump on. them rockets, bro, you going to have. >> There won't be strangers after they pay. $10 million. I mean, if it's tourists,

it's still really expensive if you want, >> but they're gonna have like a, you know, something for lower income. And they'll. probably have like a. >> Oh, no. No. See here's how you do lower. income. >> They going to have a EBT seat on that. You know that. >> Here's what you do when for low income. You just have a lottery. >> and everybody pays 10 bucks for a. ticket. You sell enough tickets. Somebody wins that lottery and they go. up and they don't have to be rich for. that. That work. >> Oh Robbo show going to be on that. rocket. Sherman gonna be on that rocket.

>> That'll work. >> That's going to be amazing, dude. Um, >> by the way, I I don't mind going to. rocket, but it depends on where where. it's headed. >> Okay. >> I don't want to boldly go where hundreds. have gone before. Send me somewhere. Moon, Mars, beyond. I'm signed up. >> Have you ever been offered to go to. space? >> Uh, I was. No, actually, no. But, and. space, what people say space is, you. know, they got the Bezos Branson. billionaire boys space race, but they. just go up and and fall back to Earth.

The whole trip is is within 30 minutes. They don't go into orbit, but they go. above this magical place called the. Karman line where if you go above that. level of the atmosphere, then daytime. sky turns dark because there's not. enough air to turn blue. And so they. call that the Karman line. So if you go. above that, you're classified as an. astronaut. And I'm just saying I'm an. astrophysicist. If you're going to send me into space, send me somewhere. And if I don't know. if you knew that, take Earth and shrink. it down a school room globe. You can.

ask, "How high up did they go. >> down to the school room globe?". >> Yeah. So, here's Earth, a school room. globe. How high up is the space station? >> Okay. >> Space station is less than a half an. inch above the surface. >> Okay. >> And then the Bezos Branson trip, they're. the thickness of two dimes above Earth's. surface. >> You remember that crazy dude that jumped. out of a balloon for Red Bull? Uh, Felix. Bumgardner. >> Yes. >> Okay. Few years back. His balloon. He. died recently, by the way, doing one of.

these stunts. Damn stuff. >> Yeah, he jumped the thickness of one. dime above the Earth. So, none of this. is really going anywhere. >> for me, an astrophysicist. Send me. somewhere, Moon, Mars, and Beyond, and. I'm good. And if Elon says, "Ride one of. my rockets," I'll say, "Elon, I want you to fly your mother first. and bring her back safely.". >> Yeah. >> Then I'll go. >> That's fair. >> Yeah, that's fair. That's totally fair. >> I think that's very fair. You got to mom. test it. >> Um, but surely someone's reached out and.

offered you said uh. >> Oh, no. So, I I was once given a. opportunity to ride in the vomit comet. You know, there's a plane that goes up. and falls back down and you're. weightless for a little bit of time. Pepsi was going to offer me a spot, but. I had to wear a Pepsi jumpsuit. and because they were advertising zero. calorie Pepsi and this was a zero. gravity ride and I could be photographed. and end up in an ad. and I say it ain't. worth that much to me. I ain't giving my.

So, so no. So, I haven't. >> But have Katy Perry and those people. have they actually been in space or. they've just been above the Carmen line? >> Well, well, that's. >> and so technically they have. >> technically they've been in space. Katie's been in space and I thought they. got a bad rap on that. People cached on. that launch and well Katie, she's got a. new album out and they all want to make. sure they're pretty with their makeup. and everything. And I'm think chill. First of all, when planes were invented, the first people to go were famous and. rich people. >> Yeah. >> And the press wrote about it. So, this.

is kind of interesting. Let's keep doing. this. And the industry grew till it. became its own thing. And so, the. aviation industry was birthed in exactly. the same way. >> I see. So, you got to use celebrities to. advertise it. But, but I think here's. the thing. Like you're saying, it didn't. make sense in anybody's mind. Like I. can't even get from uh here to uh. Hoboken, >> right, >> in a half hour, dude. That' be hard, right? I'm not going to think they can. get to space and come right back. And.

then it kind of looked bizarre and then. they were like over there like the door. was kind of open. There was a lot of. stuff that didn't. >> they didn't help their own cause. >> Oh, okay. Well, I'm just saying. celebrities in space. I that's where I. drew the line and that there they are. >> Yeah. >> And the fact that we're talking about it. now is evidence. >> That's good point. Even if you're, you. know, >> Yeah. If it's just an advertising thing, then yes. >> Yeah. Right. >> Even if you're going to be a dick about. it, you're still talking about it. >> But that's brave of those people to just. be like, I'm going to trust this thing. is going to make it into space and come.

back. >> and then come back and land safely. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, if I'm going to. put my life at risk in that way, I want. to go farther. >> Give me some place to go. >> Who would you take into space with you? You got to bring. >> I bring family if they agree. I don't. know if they'd agree. >> You bring family for two days. Oh. Oh, okay. I see what your point. Okay. >> Ain't nobody bringing family to space, bro. Hey, bro. You don't bring Sy into. the solar system, Cub. You feel me? >> Okay, I get it. Okay, but so you want to.

bring like, >> you know, your who your boys you hang. out with, you know? >> Yeah. Just Yeah. Who would you bring? Like if you had to bring kind of like a. little gang up to space, who do you go? Would you give them? >> I don't I hadn't thought about that. Okay. >> I hadn't thought cuz that would mean I'd. be focusing on them when I'm really. focusing on the universe. >> That's fair. Yeah, that's what I'm. saying. >> So, maybe bring Yeah, I'm trying to. think. Yeah, it's a good actually a good. question because you might it might take. your energy away. >> You know what I'd want to bring? >> H. >> a poet and a comedian. >> H. >> I bring you. >> cuz cuz you you look around and you say.

some funny. There's some there's there's some funny. stuff to be experienced. >> Oh yeah. Saturn looking thing. >> Yeah. Yeah, dude. No, I highly value the. lens through which comedians observe the. world, especially. >> if it's a world you have not seen. before. So, you know what happens? Everything up there comes through your. lens and you're going to think about it. in the context of all of your life and.

all the crazy people you grew up with. and all the stories you tell. That's. going to happen through this lens and. that'll keep me entertained the whole. way. >> Oh, thanks, bro. Yeah, that'd be cool to. be up there. Then I will bring um Duncan. Trussell. Do you know him? >> No. >> He's an amazing comedian. Um so I would. bring him and he has a great mind that. loves to think about like unique stuff. >> Okay. Weird stuff. Yeah. You need. >> you need a mind like that that thinks. thinks outside of any other parameters.

>> He is a poet of sorts as well. And then. low key, I bring a couple. >> little space candy. You feel me, bro? >> Okay. >> And you know, that's between us. But. >> well, something you need to know. >> Yeah. >> I'm duty bound to alert you of this. >> Um. >> I bring a couple ladies. That's what I'm. saying. >> I get that. I think it was drugs. >> I totally understood. Okay. And which. leads me to say.

>> I bring a little bit of drugs. >> that. in space you might not need them cuz you. was high as in space. >> You're lying. >> No, no. I'm just saying you are in. space. Oh yeah. >> Usually you on Earth you say I want to. escape my moment here and float. somewhere else. You are literally. floating in space and you're going to. say I need drugs to now transcend that. That's a waste of drugs. Leave the drugs. for people still on Earth. A B if you. bring in some arm candy.

>> Mhm. >> I I just I'm duty bound as a physicist. to tell you that sex in space is very. different to execute. >> I'm into some. >> No, I'm just I'm just saying most things. you do in on Earth Yeah. while having. sex Yeah. >> would you would carine and bounce off. the back walls of the spaceship if. you're in zero G. Would even like what. about even oral sex? Is that possible in. space? >> Um yeah.

>> Okay. >> But I'm saying but you're floating and. so you know on Earth you're in the same. place at the same time. In space you. have to be strapped down is my point. >> So you have to bring kind of straps with. you. >> You have to. the way you said that. >> Or you have to bring something. >> Oh I have to bring straps. Yeah. I would. have done that anyway. >> You got to I mean I'm just saying like. >> Yeah. Yeah. You have to strap because. you're on Earth, you're assuming the. person is there every time you're in.

body contact. But in space in zero G, body contact sends someone careening off. the wall. >> So you So say if you were engaging in. some type of sexual activity and you and. one person was to kind of like pressure. their body or thrust their body against. someone else's body, >> they're going to bounce off and hit the. wall. It's just you have to rethink all. the moves and all the motion and all the. positions. That's all I'm saying. If. you're going to if you're going to. >> bring the candy, there it is. >> I'm bringing you a piece.

>> But it's good, dog. Ah, dude. Yeah. Thanks for thinking about this with me, man. Um, >> it's just physics at that level. That's. all it But also it takes you, you know, it makes you I'll just tell you this. immediately right now. We just had a lot. of people who aren't going to want to be. astronauts. I'll tell you that. >> Um, >> also if you get like st if you're sick. to the stomach, >> you know, okay, you ever either been in.

a roller coaster or driving on a country. road and there's like a a short hill and. you come down off it, you feel you feel. a little thing in there. Well, that's. cuz you're sort of weightless going over. the hill because you go up and then it. falls right back down and your organs. are not accustomed to that. >> So, that happens a lot there. >> in space. It's the entire feeling. >> Nuh-uh. >> Yes. And you have to just get used to. that. And until you get used to that, you are throwing up. And so, the last. thing you want to do is vomit in zero g.

It's bad enough when you see the. splatter pattern on the outside of bars. >> You know, that's bad enough. You say I. you know who. >> Oh yeah, that little bush like. Roarshack, >> right? Yeah. It's a roar shack. The. vomit roar shock outside of bars. So in. space there's no roar shack because it. doesn't fall down. It just goes. everywhere and it gets in your hair and. in the vents and everything unless you. unless you got a bag right to barf into. >> and you have to make sure that it has. forward velocity so that it gets into.

the bag. It can't just come up into your. mouth cuz then it wouldn't know where. else to go. So it could hypothetically. be pumped like your stomach pump. >> Oh yeah. Your your your stomach pumps. >> can convulse it enough to get it to your. mouth and then you would have to spit it. out or. >> they call reverse paristalsis they call. it where all your your digestive organs. it says I got to get this out of here. And by the way think about it when. you're throwing up it's going against. gravity to begin with. It was in your. stomach and now it's here. >> So you already working against gra. So.

in zero g you would have no trouble. doing that. I'm just saying you want it. to have some projectile velocity to get. into the bag. >> Oh, for sure. >> Otherwise, it'll just kind of hang out. all around your face. >> Just things to think about cuz cuz. you're thinking about going into space, dude. >> Well, you're thinking you're making me. think about it. >> That's what I said I would take you. That's why. >> you think I'm not going to think about. it when you walk in the room, >> dude. What are you talking about? >> Let me reassert. >> They're comedians I love, but they come. more from my life experience. And it's.

fun if they say something that I might. have thought of. But I'm going to tell. you, you have a completely different. life experience than I ever had or. dreamt of. And I value that. >> A thank you, Neil. Well, I appreciate. it. Same about you, dude. I feel lucky. to be able to talk with you today. >> No. Well, you're in my town. I can't let. you come through town without me finding. you. And. >> And that's the truth. I appreciate it, man. I really do. Yeah. This is fun, dude. I'll say this. You make. communicating fun. >> Oh, well, thank you. Yeah. You know, I. thought about it. Uh if there's a.

professor at the front of a class and. they're like writing on the chalkboard. or whatever the board is made of these. days, they're expecting you to meet them. at the chalkboard. They don't care how. you learn. They're they're just putting. it out there. So they're being a. professor, but they're not being an. educator. >> Okay? They're not being a communicator. or communicator turns around, looks at. their audience, and wonders, "How is. your brain wired for thought, for. learning? And I'm going to shape my.

information to reach in there so I can. access everybody in the room. >> And I'm going to meet you 90% of the way. to where you are. And that's more. effort. >> Otherwise, you're just putting stuff up. and leaving. No, it's it's more effort. So, thank you for noticing that. >> Yeah, I see the shapes you making, Daddy. I see it. I love it. I love it, man. I I read actually in your book, it's I said I read somewhere that you. can't even smell in space. Is that true? >> Yeah. So space. >> tell me a little bit more about space. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Space there's no you.

know the the molecules are very sparse. >> Okay. >> It's it's the world's best vacuum. Okay. And so when you smell you are inhaling. molecules that connect to your olfactory. glands and they connect in ways that. give you a taste, give you a smell. I. mean they're all related. >> So if I smell something, it's actually a. molecule that lands inside. Yes. >> And that sets off the sens. If you taste. something, it's a molecule that attaches. to your taste buds. Same phenomenon. >> Got it. >> Now, here's something interesting.

>> Mhm. >> Some molecules twist this way. >> Mhm. >> And other molecules twist the other way. >> I know which ones twist the other way. cuz you know what I'm talking about. >> So, watch. >> I know a couple of them boys. >> So, the molecule that gives you the. flavor of mint. >> twists. It's exactly the same molecule. except in space it twists the opposite. way from the molecule that gives you the.

flavor of carowway. >> What is carowway? >> Carowway. That's the seed that's in rye. bread. >> Okay. >> So carowway and mint, if you write down. the chemical equation, it's identical. But if you build them, they they turn in. opposite directions. And so that tells. you that it's not just the chemical, it's how it's configured so that it. attaches to your taste buds. And in one. way you taste mint, the other way you. taste this car it's a carowway seed. thing. Yeah, it's it's I think it's. carowway. >> So it's just because of the way that it.

moves at the taste. >> The way that it attaches the. configuration of the molecule to the. configuration of your taste buds. >> Wow. >> It if it can lock in, then you'll taste. it. Otherwise, it goes right on by. Do. you remember? You're old enough to. remember. Uh there was this. this thing that lays potato chip. Did. they invent it? It's called Ostra. >> Oh, I remember that. >> Do you remember Ostra, >> bro? Remember that? >> Do you remember Ostra? >> Booty chips. >> Exactly. So they It's booty chips.

>> It's oil and they fry the chips in this. oil. But that oil, we don't have. >> We don't have enzymes to digest that. molecule. man. >> And so it so it has. >> people couldn't handle it. >> the flavor of the oil, but you you can't. digest it. So it it does not get pulled. into your body. It moves through your. intestine. >> Man, people was doodoo and everywhere. >> So So on the on the bag of chips, it.

said uh one, don't eat too much. It may. cause anal leakage. >> Yep. >> First time ever those words were on a. bag of potato chips. And the FDA. approved it. >> Yeah. Well, hey, so is anal leakage. So, so the point my my point is that is. something that did not configure to our. ability to digest it. We didn't have the. enzymes for, so it just went right on. through.

>> I just want to see. Yeah. Alstra may. cause abdominal cramping and loose. stools. Alstra inhibits the absorption. of some vitamins and other nutrients. Um, >> abdominal cramping. Yeah. >> Yeah. You may remember them as Wow. Chips, Fredo Lelay. They used them in. there. Lays used Alra in versions of. Lays, Ruffles, Doritos, and Tostitos. Pringles also had light fat-free version. using the ingredient. A serving of Wow. Chips was marketed as having about half. the calorie of standard chips and no. fat. But it didn't have fat because I. think it just ran right through your.

body. So, it didn't even. >> Well, but it's fat that you could not. digest, right? So, it normally What. happens if you eat fat and you eat it? it becomes fat. You're fat, right? Or a. source of energy for you. We We could. not interact with it chemically. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, we are a sack of chemicals that. either do or do not interact with what. we put in in our mouth. >> or what we smell. >> Mhm. >> Or what we taste. So, I'm I'm just. saying there people say, "I don't like. food that has chemicals in it.".

Everything is chemicals. You are. chemicals. Have you ever seen like the list of. medicines at a pharmacy? There's a book. called the the PDR, Physicians Desk Re. is it's this thick. Okay. It's 4 in. thick. It's filled with all the. medicines that exist that we take. Yeah. >> Why do they work at all? Because we are. sacks of chemistry and so are these. medicines. There it is. >> Got it. >> And we didn't start living longer until. we figured that out. >> Do you know? >> Well, but we don't know that. >> No. No. I'm going to tell you. I'm going. to tell you.

>> We don't know if that's true now. >> I'm going to tell. >> Sorry. No, it's fine. >> It was fun doing that. I don't know. >> No, it's good. We're having a good time. >> Amen. >> We don't know that because there is. there's stories in the Bible where they. say people lived a thousand years. >> No. Um um not a thousand. The oldest was. uh who was it? Lived 969 years. >> Well, come on, MAN. >> You know what I'm saying, bro? >> Yeah. Uh Methusela lived 969 years. >> Methusela. Dang. Shorty was trying to.

meet somebody. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, and Noah was I think 700. something. Yeah. Everybody back then. Yeah. Look at those ages. >> So, they were living. >> Well, Noah 950. Yeah. So, they. >> But also, they only had a few people. So, they had to stay alive. Oh, >> is that how they were? >> I would guess, right? >> So, I think people started living normal. quote normal age, biblical normal ages. after Noah. Yeah. >> That's when the ages came back down. >> Yeah. Once the pets showed up, people. are like we can chill, you know. But if.

you look at like the the archaeological. records, which are not what's in the. Bible, um, half of everyone born. >> in caveman days were dead before they. were 30. >> Okay. Fast forward to 1840. >> Mhm. >> 1850. Half of everyone born in the world. was dead before they were 35. >> That's 10, 20,000 years. And you know, everyone over that time. drank clear water, breathe pure air.

They ate organic, >> right? Cuz sometimes we romanticize the idea. >> They romanticize I do not want to go. back to that time. Plus, I'd be. someone's slave anyway, right? So, no, I. don't want to go back to that time. >> Not at my place. You wouldn't. >> Oh, thank you, sir. Love you. So, so. >> now you'd have to do something. We all. I'm just saying we all got to help out. You know what I'm saying? You'll have to. do the dishes once in a while, but we. all will have our our day to do them.

>> Anyway, sorry, I shouldn't have said. anything. I'm just saying I got you, bro. Anywhere we go in time, I got you, dog. >> Thank you. Thank you. So, uh, so what. happened between 1850 and like 1950? >> And that's the truth. So, it was 30. maybe 34, you said, until like 1850. >> Well, for 30,000 years, >> it's cavemen through the middle of the. 19th century. >> That's how long people live. We. increased the life expectancy by 5. years. Okay, half of everyone born in. 1840 was dead by before they were 35. A.

lot of that was infant deaths as well. We just gotten way better at that. But. also, there are three things. Vaccines, antibiotics, and. sanitation. Those three things doubled our life. expectancy within decades. And now we're. damn near triple that when you have. other medicines and anti-cancer. treatments and this sort of thing. It's. not odd to have someone live to be 90. something. Yeah, >> that's not even weird. >> But now we're also I think it seems like. we've gotten into a place where some of.

these things have become compromised or. got like greed has become such a big. thing. Corporate involvement has been. become. >> well it's always been but. >> right but I think it's big. It seems. like across. >> greed over your health. >> Yes. Yeah. Sure. that can h and whatever. that is, it's not as big an impact as. the positive impact realizing that we. are sacks of chemistry and we can. interact with us chemically to to get. rid of ailments to cure disease for sure. to you know so I'm just saying I'm.

giving a shout out to modern medicine. and science because that's what people. take science for granted because it's. kind of hidden you know. >> well I think more more recently what has. given it a bad rap. >> um probably are uh during co and we. don't have to go into any of this but. I'm just saying some of the things that. have I think have given it a bad rap. even more specifically probably during. co I think to me anyway uh the like the. whenever they had the opioid epidemic. and those people didn't get held liable.

that was like a big thing not about. science in general but just about uh. >> that was a medicine that a medical. company made I mean right right a. pharmaceutical company. >> that stuff and then like now there's a. lot of like skepticism because there's a. lot of ownership by like the of news and. media know there's a lot of entanglement. so I think. >> yeah yeah it's it's it's a problem and I. think life expecties have stalled a. little bit and the opioid the opioid. epidemic actually impacted that so did. co by the way our life expectancy. stalled during co uh but I'm saying.

overall are you living a life with. science or without science I'm picking. science okay and we got to you know make. sure it's working for us and not against. us. >> I think that's where we are in a space. now hopefully is that there's going to. be some purification of a lot of. processes that maybe have probably. gotten compromised in different places. and some that haven't and have been. accused of being compromised. >> Yeah. All I'm saying is people say I'm. just science science this you realize we. can we we landed a rover an SUVsized. rover on Mars that carried a helicopter. with it that that flew around the.

surface of Mars. >> But they lost it. >> No, it died. The the helicopter died. >> But that rover that thing is missing. >> Oh, is it? I haven't checked that. >> I think it is, isn't it? >> Is that right? Did they ever get that. rover back? >> You can't lose that rover. >> I'm not calling you out on it, Neil. I'm. just saying. >> You can call me out. I I don't claim. full knowledge of everything in the. whole. >> fact that they got it there. >> That's what I'm saying. >> This is what I'm saying. >> Yeah. >> So, and. >> most people can't get their kid to pick. up their toys from the living room and. science is putting one onto Mars. >> No. NASA main ro have not gone missing.

>> Curiosity and perseverance. Um. >> where they remain operating. Yeah. Those. are the cars. Those are their names. Spirit. Yes. They get named by by middle. schools. Uh, NASA. >> Well, I'm just going to say they were. named by urban middle schools. I think. cur curiosity and perseverance remain. operating on Mars. Older rovers such as. Spirit. >> Were those words too big for you or what. are you saying? >> I'm just saying. that those names have more uh ambiance. to them. >> Oh, so they're more abstract. >> Yes. Than like Matthew and Susan.

>> Gotcha. >> That's what I am saying. And that is the. truth. Curiosity and perseverance remain. operating on Mars. older rovers such as. Spirit and Opportunity ended after NASA. lost contact with them. >> Yeah, because their batteries die. That. that that's fine. So, no, we're still in. contact. All I'm saying is. >> you know, as a matter of fact, it is. rocket science. As a matter of fact, yeah, you got to work hard to get the. right answers. Science is done. >> And you know, last year, this year, and. next year, there's a total solar. eclipse. I can tell you the exact second.

it will begin and where you need to. stand to see it. M. >> this is an event in the future of the. moon moving through space coming between. earth and the sun. We know what's going. on. We if I didn't tell you how we. figure this out. The scientist would be the gods of this. earth. >> If you don't behave I'm going to get rid. of the sun tomorrow at 12:35. >> Yeah. >> And you and I sun starts disappearing. You'll be graveling at my feet. Try to.

get the sun back. >> Dang. >> And I'll say, "Yeah, okay. I'll I'll. bring it back just this one time and it. comes back. >> I bet there was a lot of perverted. action going on. >> But we tell you how we know this. We. write books. You can learn to do that, too. >> The old missing son trick, huh? I bet a. lot of ladies and some dudes fell for. that. >> I bet they fell for that. But you're. right. >> You know, if you needed another reason. to think Columbus was a dick, >> okay, on his third voyage or might might.

have been fourth. Um, >> how many voyages did he get? >> Huh? >> He got more than one. >> Oh, yeah. Multiple voyages. >> Oh, I thought he did it on. >> He came back multiple times. No. >> Oh, I thought he did it on the first. try. >> No, no, no, no, no. On the third or. fourth. Um, there's I is he in Jamaica. or Hispanola, one of the larger. Caribbean islands. And he's ready to to. go back to Spain. And Oh, he's got four. voyages. Good. Uh, so. >> between 1492 and 1504, he made four.

voyages across the Atlantic. Yeah, there. you go. So, on his fourth voyage, it was. uh he was headed back to Spain and he. didn't have enough food for his crew. >> And so, he went to the locals, I need. can you spare me some food for this trip. back? He says, "No, we only grow exactly. what we need for to get through the. winter, so we can't do this.". >> You know what he did? He went looked up. his tables, science tables, and said, "If you do not give my crew food,

my Christian God," because they're all. heathens, right? Cuz they're running. around. They're not Christian, right? >> My Christian God will make the moon. disappear six days hence if you do not. obey. >> Wow. >> And some were rightly skeptical, but. others were kind of spooked. And six. days comes, the moon starts. disappearing. cuz he knew there was a. total lunar eclipse happening and they. just brought on the food. >> Dang. >> And I don't know. We didn't check back.

to see if they survived the winter. But. >> but they definitely. >> Yeah. If you needed another reason to. think Columbus was a dick that there. goes one. >> But if you. >> using the laws of physics known to the. Europeans, >> was he a dick or was he a scientist? You. know what I'm saying? But I'm just. saying he used trickery. >> He used knowledge of the rhythms of the. heavens as trickery. Yes. And I'm. saying, so that's the case. If. scientists did that today, we would rule. the world. But no, we let politicians. rule the world for reasons that remain.

mysterious to scientists. But we tell you how it's all done. >> Mysterious to everybody, I think. >> Oh, yeah. Okay, there you go. >> It's a mysterious place that we're in. You know, that's why I'm here today. I. >> I'm telling you that comedians make it. bearable. >> Thank you for existing in this world. >> Well, that's nice of you to say, Neil. I. think you guys carry the soul of a of a. society of civilization cuz you cuz you. you have to be smart enough to know. what's there to make fun of. Make fun of.

it and hand it back to the people who. who would otherwise get angry cuz you're. making fun of them. But say, "Hey, that's kind of oh, you you shed some. light on something I didn't even know I. was doing or I was thinking or I was. saying.". >> And so, yes, you make the world. bearable. Let's take a break right there. for a second. >> You got to pee or anything? You. >> Today's episode is in partnership with. Manscaped, the men's grooming brand trusted by over.

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>> Well, this is a portable urinal. >> Stadium pal. There it is. >> That's a portable urinal, though. I'm. talking about pants where it just fills. up in the legs and then. >> you don't want to fill it up like dump. the stuff, dude. >> I don't want to be caught dumping it or. whatever. And what if you get caught by. the city or whatever? >> I want to just fill it up and then drop. it like Yeah. Put it at home or put your. leg over the toilet. This is for people. who are drinking beer at a ball game and. are too freaking lazy to get off their. ass and go to the bathroom.

>> Yeah, they have Yeah, this is Yeah, this. is. >> You're looking at it here. >> This is just some dude who's taped a. bunch of plastic to his leg and he's. literally just. >> with pee in it in this commercial. >> in that ad. There's pee going in it. >> That that No, that's that ain't right. >> Yeah, of course it's not. >> Show be discreet. Of course, be. discreet. And look at the guy. >> You know that, dude. >> No, I I don't mind getting up, moving my. muscles every, you know, however couple.

hours. >> If I have pee in my body, I wanted to. get out. Um, >> you said you a bed wetter as a kid. Yeah, it was. Yeah, >> I wet. I was just. >> When did it go away? Is it still is it. still a thing? >> I'm non-practicing. >> Non-practicing bedw. >> Um, but yeah, but I'm not currently. active. So, so I I was not a bed weter, but it's not like I never did wet the. bed. And. >> the the times that I did wet the bed, I. I can count them. >> I was dreaming that I was in the. bathroom peeing. >> Oh, wow. Yeah. Sometimes that would. happen to me. Yeah.

>> But other times I would just pee all. over. >> Yeah. Can you No, wait. In your dream, you're just peeing every wherever you. are. >> Oh, dude. I would remember. Yeah. a lot. of cuz I would have dreams and for some. reason I was sometimes I was like a like. a it wasn't like a detective or whatever. but it was like somebody who like had to. have information or something and people. would ask me the information and my. answer was always just to pee all over. in the dream like it would be like. >> it was a response. >> Yes, it was a response. >> Wow. >> And so then I would pee in real life. Look up what what type of child is there.

like a is there a um like a demographic. or a gender like what type of kids wet. the bed like the most or for the. longest? I wonder. >> I don't know if they've got that figured. out, but they they later found some. medicine that I heard. >> Oh, I took it. >> Oh, you did? Okay. >> Oh, dude. I'll tell you about something. else that they got. What? So, I took. finally got a pill and they you get a. pill and you don't wet the bed, but you. got to take the pill and sometimes you. forget or whatever and you just wet the. bed. But the other thing that can happen. is my mother.

>> that pill somebody invented that pill. Okay. I mean, before that there was no. pill and then. >> and then there's a pill. So, I'm just. saying that's a um Oh, here's the. statistics. Yeah. So the the bedwedding. drops, you know, as you get into your teens. that it's hard to. >> Yeah. At age five, it's 15 to 20% of. kids and then it drops a couple of. percent here and there until age 10 is 5. to 6%. In adulthood, about 2% in some.

estimates. >> Um, scroll back up a little bit. >> Mhm. >> Bedwetting clinically called nocturnal. in. >> in uresis. >> Inesis after age five, is about two to. three times more common in boys than. girls. In one US sample of 8 to 11 year. olds, it affected 6.21% of boys versus. 2.15%. >> Yeah. More than twice. Uhhuh. >> Race itself is not a useful standalone. explanation for why an individual child. bed wets or will wet the longest. Um. >> Yeah. So it's I mean I'm just saying.

we're a sack of chemicals. We give you a. pill that goes away. >> Well, listen to what happened to me, dude. So my mother for my birthday one. time um saved up a little bit of money. and she got me these electric a buzzer. underwear, right? And it was an. underweares that had a buzzer in the. front and when the uh. >> when P hits it. >> when the P pee hits it, it makes a like. >> so it wakes you up. >> Wakes you up, right? But dude, uh I. ended up so I would go over to my. grandparents, right? to go stay there.

when I was really when I was really like. probably four or five and they let me. drink as much apple juice as I could, right? And you and I would piss big on. apple juice, right? If I was drinking. apple juice, I knew I was wet in the. bed, >> okay? >> And the second it hit my lips, I. couldn't stop drinking it. So I would. drink like one of the big ones at night, >> dude. And then my grandparents didn't. know I had these underweares. And so in. the middle of the night, I'm laying. there buzzing. I'm dead asleep. My. grandfather. >> has no idea what's going on, dude. I. wake up, he's on a chair, >> coin is buzzing. He thought I was. getting electrocuted. He's on a chair.

with a broomstick pushing it against my. body like that trying to get me to be be. awake. Scared, crying. Yeah. >> What? A broomstick? >> Yeah. Cuz I guess he thought wood. wouldn't travel um energy. >> Unless he thought you the devil was in. you trying to exercise you. >> I mean, look, he might have been trying. to touch me with a stick. Who knows? >> Maybe the person who invented pervert. >> Maybe the person who invented the pill. was given that gift as his grandma said, "I'm not doing this." And it changed it. and then science helped them figure it. out. >> There you go. Yeah. Yeah. >> What What about this dude? Can you.

ejaculate in space? Would that be the. same as vomiting kind of like is it the. same like can you ejaculate? >> Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean the muscles do. that all by themselves. So the way to. test it Yeah. >> here's how to test it. >> is cuz when they first sent astronauts. in space they there was the question, can you swallow in space? >> Yeah. >> What will will fle just gather in your. throat? But there all these questions. and it never been tested but you could. sort of test it. Yeah, >> you can say. Okay.

On Earth, can you ejaculate standing up? Clearly. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, can you ejaculate horizontally? >> Mhm. >> Clearly. Can you ejaculate upside down? Now, that's harder to test, but there's no. reason why you think that wouldn't. happen. Well, if you can ejaculate. vertical to gravity, horizontal to. gravity, and opposite gravity, then no gravity should be no problem for. that action. And sure enough, yeah, you.

can ejaculate in space. Uh women ovulate. in space. Um all the normal things. because the body doesn't know if you're. horizontal or vertical. It's got to be. able to do it all by itself. veins. sending um uh blood. Uh you know, why. doesn't blood collect in your down here? Because you have veins and arteries that. help move the blood through your system, get it back to the heart. So. >> because otherwise blood would just.

gather all in your feet, >> you know. Correct. Without that gravity. >> Now, here's what happens. Yes. Here's. what happens in space. Your brain doesn't know how to get rid. of the blood. as. efficiently as other parts of your body. So people their heads can swell up a bit. >> really. >> in zero G. Yeah. And it puts there's. pressure on the eyeballs. So it's not a. it's not a picnic. >> How do they relieve that in there? >> I don't know all the ways that they they. figured this out. So you know the the.

solution? >> Rotate the space station. like any. sci-fi movie you've ever seen, it. rotates and it creates an artificial. gravity and then you don't have to worry. about it. >> Get on with your life. So NASA still. hasn't gone there, >> even though all of science fiction has. >> So I'm very disappointed. >> That's fascinating, man. >> Oh, by the way, in Lost in Space, there. are chapters on every one of these. subjects. >> Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah. Yeah. There's every there's on. space exploration. What What you know, >> like half of the stuff we've been. talking about are things out of there,

but also it's like That's right. That's. right. It's all a bunch of like it's so. many different facts and things that are. kind of conversation starters, man. Um I. read one thing I read in there was that. uh that you you you'll be younger in. space. >> or that spa does space make you younger? >> Yeah, it doesn't make you younger. You. Well, okay. It depends how fast you're. moving. >> Okay. >> If you're moving really fast, you will. age more slowly than people back on. Earth. >> Okay. >> And so it's just Einstein's relativity.

So you don't reverse so much as. everything ticks slower. Your heart. rate, your watch, everything is normal. to you and you look to Earth and. everybody's kind of moving faster. It's. a relativity problem. It's not. So it's. a fascinating fact. And. >> wait, explain it to me a little bit. better if you. >> Well, it's not it's it's just is I mean, >> but like if you come back, will you have. aged as much? >> That's the famous twin paradox, right? So you send off your twin and they go. and travel at the speed of light or.

half. >> What they did though was it Mark and. Scott Kelly are the twins, right? Yeah. >> They're twin astronauts and they sent. they're identical twins and they sent. one into into the space station for like. a year or so and then the other one. stayed here on Earth and when they came. back then they tested their DNA. They. looked at their health. There they go. We got good pictures of them. >> What' they learn? >> I think I had Scott Kelly on my podcast. and I said, "So which twin are you?" He. said, "I'm the good-looking one. That. was a It was a fun reply. He's probably. been asked that a h 100 times. >> Oh, yeah. I don't even believe in twins,

but I believe that they that people love. them. >> So So I have no idea what you meant by. that. That you don't believe in. >> It just makes me very nervous. >> Okay. >> And I don't I don't have I don't hold. any edge against people that are twins. I love them, >> but. >> but it makes me very skeptical. >> You're creeped out. >> No, skeptical. >> of. >> the reality of it. >> Okay. >> And maybe the science. >> So here's what I said. The good thing. about science is. >> Yeah. >> It's true whether or not you believe in. it. >> Right.

>> Right. >> So whether or not you believe in it has. no effect. >> Oh, let them cook. But I'm just saying. if they show up like that, >> you're a little creeped out. >> No, I'm just. >> You don't believe this can happen? >> I want to see the paperwork. That's what. I'm saying. I want to see the VIN. numbers. >> You want to see. >> I want to see the car facts. Okay, that's. >> Show me the carpets. >> That's what I want to see, Neil. Um, >> by the way, by the way, by the way.

Okay. >> Mhm. >> Twins. have different fingerprints. >> There's their VIN. >> That's fair. >> I refuse to say VIN number because the N. in VIN stands for number. So, I refuse. to say that. Okay. Okay. It's like people said, "Where's the. nearest ATM machine?" The M in ATM. stands for machine. I respect that. >> Okay. So So the VIN is is their. fingerprint. Got it. >> There you go. It's two different two. different fingerprints.

>> Huh. Do they have the same DNA? >> Identical DNA. >> What? So one of them could do a murder. and you could think it's either one. >> Uh depending on the Yes. Yes. You. wouldn't know. Yes. It could be the twin. who did it. But you know what's crazier. than that? >> There's some people who are what's the. word? Um the chimeas. M. >> there's some people. >> they can see at night. >> No, that that'd be good if you could. Uh. there's some people where the zygote. something in their in their.

fertilization. merge two different DNAs. into one life form. I think it's start I. I I don't don't quote me on this. I. think it has to do with um two that. might have been fraternal twins, but the. the yolks merged. So when you come out. as an adult, if I take a DNA sample of. your arm, I'll get a different DNA and I. get a DNA sample from some other part of. your body and they're called chimeas.

>> Let me see that. A chimera is a single. organism, object or concept made up of. completely different parts, genotypes or. origins. Mhm. >> Um a single organism whose body contains. cells from two or more distinct zygot. Yes. >> It can happen when two fertilized eggs. fuse together early in the womb or. through cell exchange into. >> right. It's two separately fertilized. eggs. So they would be it's not a twin. It's not an identical twin. So but it. can show up in the same body. Ooh. >> So, it means if I do commit a crime and.

I leave Deanna on the scene and then. they get DNA off my cheek or something. and it's not the DNA that I left, they. they wouldn't implicate me. >> Yeah, it's pretty wild. That is wild. It. >> be a good murder mystery if you want to. just throw in some chimeas. They're very. rare people. >> Just throw a couple in. Um well well we've been talking about um. people going to space right and space. travel and what's going on and um and it. it's kind of become this privatized. thing now it seems like in a way with. like you know Elon's trying to get there. Bezos is running it. Um.

>> do are what are your fears about uh. about like space and like do you think. it's going to get gentrified? Like I. know in your book you you talk about how. much stuff is getting left in space. What are your fears about like the. privatization of space? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's the space debris is. a whole separate issue. There's not only. all the satellites. As I said earlier, Elon is now rising through his 12,000th. satellite. >> Wait, wait, tell me about that again. >> Well, no, he's launched 12,000. He has. 80% of all satellites orbiting the Earth.

were launched by SpaceX. Okay. So aliens. coming to Earth and they see not only. how many satellites are orbiting it, but. the level of debris that's left over. from destroyed satellites and paint. chips and rocket boosters and things. I. think that's why we haven't been visited. by aliens. What the hell are you doing. down there? And they just move on. because it's a trash heap. >> And it doesn't become a trash heap until. it's.

>> every trip you take, you encounter. trash. You know, you go in the. wilderness, you toss a candy candy. wrapper over, no one's ever going to see. that again. They're not going to come. arrest you. But if a thousand people do. that and the candy wrappers everywhere, you've destroyed the wilderness. Oh. yeah. So So space is kind of approaching. that. Really? >> So dude, check this out. So this is a. video. of debris. orbiting the Earth.

>> And this is real. >> Earth. Yes. And NASA tracks this. This. is just what NASA tracks. The the the. military tracks even more. Earth is in. the center of that. And the low earth. orbiting debris looks is what's directly. on the surface. The rest of that are, like I said, satellite. This is just the. debris. Not even the satellites we care. about. >> How are we going to fix it? >> Yeah. Look at We're zooming in. Look at. this. >> Nuh-uh. >> Yeah. Huh. >> Well, how can planes even be out there? What is this?

>> Well, cuz that's orbiting in space. planes are much much lower than that. >> What dude? How do you know it? >> How do I know what? >> This is real. >> Yes. It's as real as twins. >> This is this is the debris that we are. actively tracking. >> Damn. >> Okay, bro. Look, if you and some of. y'all cannot see this at home. It is. >> Some of your people just listen to the. podcast. About half. >> About half. We're looking at a NASA. video of all of the um.

>> this looks like a snow globe inside out. >> Snow globe. I love that. >> You have to go look at this. But do we. know that this is factual, Neil? How how. do they get this information? >> We're tracking it. You can track the. debris. Oh, yeah. In fact, sometimes launch. windows are affected by whether there's. a hunk of debris that might collide with. the thing you're trying to launch. Well, at this rate, how could they launch. anything with this much debris going on? >> It's dangerous and you're taking a risk. Space is very empty. You're looking at.

this compressed onto a screen. >> Got it? >> So, usually you don't hit any of it. >> But if this gets worse, which it will, there's something called a Kesler. effect. Let me hear go. Okay. The Kesler effect. It's where. there's so many satellites These are. going 18,000 miles an hour, multiple. times the speed of a rifle bullet. Okay. >> Okay. >> And if you're hit by one of those bits.

and pieces, they're small. >> Mhm. >> It'll destroy your your you can you. break into pieces if you're another. satellite. So one piece can break a. satellite into let's say 10 pieces. >> So they're hitting each other all the. time. >> Well, not yet. at the Kesler effect is. there's a threshold above which if a. single satellite gets destroyed. >> there are enough other satellites. ready to be destroyed by its debris that. it systematically destroys 100% of the.

satellites in orbit that's called the. the Kesler effect and you don't want to. ever get near that. >> really. >> yes and in fact the movie the movie. >> Armageddon. >> no gravity was basically the Kesler. Do you remember that where the debris. just started taking everything out? >> It says number of rocket launches since. the start of the space age in 1957 about. >> 7,300. >> 7,320. >> Number of satellites these rocket. launches have placed into Earth orbit, 27,490.

Wow. >> Number of these still in space, 18,84. >> Of those 18,000, about 12 to 14,000. are are SpaceX. >> Wow. Mhm. And uh about 2500 of those or. 2,800 of those are not even functioning. anymore, but they are still out there. >> Now, here's the next one. Space objects. regularly tracked and maintained in. their catalog, 46,000. Okay. >> Wow. And then this is wild. Total mass.

of all space objects in Earth's orbit, >> 17,000 tons. >> God. Yes. >> I'm not going out there. >> I'm not going out there. >> Stay here on Earth. Oh yeah. >> Unless it gets weird, man. >> Isn't it already weird? What is your. threshold for weird if it hasn't gotten. weird enough for you yet? >> We're there. >> Thank you. We're I think we're even past there. Um. yeah. Do you start to think about that? Like what do you think's going on? What. do you think that these elites are.

trying to do? Cuz obviously going into. space is Elon's big thing, right? Like. is it just him show like having a blast. because he has unlimited ideas? Like. it's like a kid who can the money, >> right? He can do whatever he wants. Like, or do you think we will need. colonization? Like, do you think there's. something coming that they're not. letting the rest of us know about? >> I'm not authorized to comment. >> If you make it in and I don't, DUDE, >> I SAID I'm taking you with me. Didn't I. already say that? >> My boy, >> you you're my first call.

>> Okay, >> I'm coming. >> Thank you, dude. Thank you, bro. And I'm. gonna hold you to that. >> Yeah, I know. I will be there. banging on the window. Hey Neil, uh. >> I got you on tape saying, >> did didn't they have that space treaty? What was. >> Well, there's the original outer space. treaty from 1967. >> Yeah. What was that about? >> And that was peaceful cooperation in. space. >> amongst different countries. >> All the space because it came out 1967. We're about to land on the moon. We're.

trying to beat Russia and it says we're. all going into space and that's the next. frontier. We should do it together. peacefully. >> Now, here's my rebuttal to that. >> Okay. >> Okay. If you can go into space with all these. countries and be peaceful and kind to. one another, then don't go ahead and do that on. Earth. What? What do you mean you can't do that. on Earth, but a treaty is going to make. us do that in space? >> I know. >> Show me that you can do it on Earth.

Then I'll have evidence that this will. work in space because I don't believe. you. >> type. >> I don't believe you for a minute. >> Space don't want us, dude. If this how. we're acting. >> Well, plus it's very hostile to human. physiology. >> Space is. >> space. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You there 100 ways you can die. People say, "Oh, going to Mars, that's. like Columbus going to the new world.". No, it's not. You know why? Because when. Columbus came to the new world, the trees where he landed are made of. wood, just like the trees in Spain where.

he built his ship. >> So he can repair his ship. Oh, what. else? He steps off the ship, he can. breathe the air. He steps off the ship. There are other human beings there to. greet him and to feed him. >> Yeah. >> On Mars, no such luxuries. >> If you crash on Mars, you deadhead. >> Dang. you something breaks on your ship, you dare it. Unless you have like a 3D. printer. >> Okay. >> And what you could just print you up a. little something. >> Yeah. Print up a nut or a bolt or. something, you know. >> Oh, that's a good idea to bring.

>> I know. I. >> From now on when people say, "What are. you bringing to an island?". >> I got to know. >> So, so what you do is you preload the. Martian surface with these things you. might need. >> Understood. The Outer Space Treaty. These are the rules. This is hilarious. No weapons of mass destruction. >> are allowed in space, >> right? Um, >> no ownership. >> Yeah, no ownership. No nation can claim. sovereignty or ownership of outer space, the moon or other planets. Um, peaceful. use. Celestial bodies must be used only.

for. >> peaceful goals. Military base as and. weapons are banned there. Space is open. for exploration and used by every. country equally, >> right? >> Um, >> so there's a later version of this. called the Artemis Accords where in the. Artemis Accords, we wrote it. It's It's. same as this. >> Okay. >> It's the It's the same, but it allows. you to maybe make a business case for. mining an asteroid. >> Nuh-uh. >> Okay. >> The Artemis Accords.

>> Yeah. Artemis Accords. >> A non-binding set of principles. established by NASA and the US. Department of State in 2020 to guide. civil space exploration and cooperation. on the moon, Mars, and other celestial. >> It leaves open business cases. Okay. Now, here's the thing. I've something hundred some odd. countries have signed it. You know who. hasn't signed it? Russia, China, North. Korea, and Venezuela. >> Wow. >> So that's the treaty in progress right. now. India's not space fairing. They. have a rover on on the moon.

>> Oh, they do. >> Well, let me But. >> I bet it's picking up other people and. driving them somewhere. >> Is that crazy, dude? >> I'm just joking. India, >> can you still tell jokes like that? >> Oh, yeah. We can. Yeah, you can. >> We can. And I'm just joking. >> On the side of the tracks, you can tell. those jokes. >> And my Indian friends will love that. joke. >> Okay, that's that. Okay, >> cuz I love them. >> Okay, so here's something. >> that. >> that's wild though. >> Here was such a dick move that I only. thought Americans would have done.

>> But the Indians did it and I was just so. sad. Okay, because you know India and. Pakistan have got this thing, right? They don't get along. >> They don't get along. They're right. there. They don't get along. Okay, be. buddies. Okay, watch. India on their rover. on the rover tracks. They imprinted. their flag. >> Mhm. >> With the Indian Space Research. Organization, ISRO, they have a little. logo, their flag, and that logo is on. the tracks of the rover. So, as the.

rover moves along the the the the. surface of the moon, the Indian flag. gets repeated there. >> and it'll stay there for a thousand. years because there's no weather, there's no wind, nothing's going to. erode it. Now, here's the dick move. You. ready? >> Mhm. >> Someone on social media, I can't blame. the whole country for this. Some dick on. social media. >> Yeah. said. Pakistan.

has the moon on its flag because it's. got the the moon and the star Islamic. symbol. >> whereas India. >> has its flag on the moon. >> really did you need to do that you're. already ahead of them in all these ways. and you got to like cachade really. >> that's a cheap dig. >> that's a cheap dig I thought it was. punching down. >> yeah and also Indian. >> I mean, it was clever. >> Yeah, I agree. >> It was a clever joke, but it was like. >> But it's like you are the meditation.

guys like and you're saying. >> Good point. >> You know, >> good point. You're the ones that. supposed to be cool and copathetic, >> but at least they're not attacking other. people with missiles. So, I think I. would take the first, >> you know what I'm saying? I would take. that over. >> But it's still not conducive to peaceful. cooperation in space. >> Well, I'll say this. It does. It does. break the outer space treaty. >> Don't be a dick in space. >> I think that's kind of what the treaty. said. >> It does.

>> And what was that second one that. allowed the business, the Artemis. Accord? Can you just show me that one. more time? >> It's it's worded in a The way I should. say it, it's worded in a way that does. not preclude business interests. >> Yeah, that's what I wanted to just read. Um, >> so there it goes. And look at all the. countries that have signed it. There it is. That's huge. Half these. countries never GETTING INTO SPACE. >> NO, BUT THEY MIGHT. It's Would you let. them be ambitious, dude? Give them a let. give them a dream. >> You're right. >> Please. Go back to go back to the If you.

go back to the table of contents, registration of space objects, scientific data, space heritage, space. resources, space resources. How's that for a code word? >> Let's go to page four. utilization that can benefit humankind. by providing critical support for safe. and sustainable operations. The extraction and utilization of space. resources recovery from moon, Mars, comets, asteroids should be executed in. a matter that complies with the treaty,

>> safe, sustainable activities. They. affirm that the extraction of resources. do not inherently constitute national. appropriation. See, it's it's very. loosey goosey there. Uh but it it it opens the door because. we have a lot of space enterprise ready. to space industry ready to just jump. jump on all. >> Do we have that? >> Yeah. >> I mean is there a lot of things that are. like kind of like in the hop or that if. we. >> Yeah. When we land when Artemis lands on. the moon it'll be supported by three or.

four or five different large space. industry comp space industrial complex. Right. So. >> we talked about that last time, didn't. we? >> What was it? >> Oh yeah. No. Yeah. We talked about. generational uh. >> Yeah, that that an interesting subject. because if the destination is too far. and it takes longer than your lifetime, then you just they have what's called. generational ships in science fiction. >> Well, we talked about them last time we. were on. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> And you thought maybe you weren't really. sure about it. Do you. >> I don't want to be born on a ship that's. predestined to go somewhere with because.

someone three generations before me. mandated that. >> But what if we need you. >> when we land? We need me when I. >> What if we need you? What if you're out. there for a purpose? Cuz somebody's going to be born on a. ship in space and have to save us. >> You think that'll be how that goes? That's a good science fiction story, right? Someone. So, they are the chosen. one. They are the savior. They're the. one. They're Neo in the Matrix. >> It's got to happen,

>> don't you think? >> That's a modern day Jesus. Jesus was the. savior. >> You know, the story of a hero always. repeats itself. It feels like And it. feels like we we need one. a savior. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, uh all these private companies are. participating. >> and they'll each do what they do best. and you bring it all together and you. get the best of private enterprise which. runs efficiently. >> and uh they'll bring the cost down. So, >> but if they have a damn Jenny's ice. cream on the moon or whatever, I'm going. to. >> What's Why you got a problem with that?

>> I don't know. In our town where I live. at, they took a lot of the um like mom. and pop stuff and they put in the bigger. stuff. It's okay. >> Oh. Oh, you want Okay. Well, if it's a. frontier, maybe mom and pops will be the. ones who do it. I mean, >> you're right. That's a good point. >> That's It usually starts that way. >> That's true. Right. >> Right. Because it's not a big enough. industry yet for the big companies to. buy everybody out. >> That's true. >> And I joke about this, you know, on the. moon if they have they might have a. colony on the moon have restaurants. >> Right. But you have to cook a little. differently because the gravity is. different and the air is, you know, and.

>> Yeah. You have that whole chapter on. gravity and uh. >> Yes. Yes. A whole thing. A whole thing. But but here's here's my bad dad joke. Okay. >> Uh but you have to promise to laugh. >> Okay. >> That wasn't very confident. That was. like really. >> No, I got you. >> Okay. You got my back on this one? Okay. So, restaurants on the moon would surely. have an interesting menu. >> They just won't have any atmosphere. >> Is that an authentic laugh or is it.

>> I thought it was pretty good. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'll tell that to someone. >> Okay. The restaurant with no atmosphere. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell that to someone. >> So, uh, a lot of what Elon Musk, you. know, people, you know, he's sometimes he goes off the. rails and off the chain, but. >> I think he literally goes off the rails. sometimes. >> What he has done through his efforts is. reduce the cost of access to space and. that enables whole industries to jump in. and play. >> How has he done that? >> Well, so one for one, he's reusing his.

rockets. Okay, he has boosters that go. up and there's he leaves a little bit of. extra fuel in the booster. >> and then the computers take over and the. boosters fall back to Earth and they. land on pads. >> Damn, they going to hit a shrimp boat. down there. >> Well, actually, so depending on the the. trajectory, they'll either come all the. way back to Cape Canaveral. >> or they have a landing pad out in the. ocean and they'll land on the land. >> Oh, they going to miss that bit. They. going to miss that bit. >> That'll be bad. Yeah, but I'm telling.

you, you know how many shrimp boats are. going to be out there suddenly? You know. how many new LLC's are going to be. formed in Louisiana? People waiting. >> They want to be hit by They want No, I. don't know. >> Waiting for that booster to hit them, bro. >> Waiting for that rocket, bro. >> So, it's gorgeous. It comes down and. then the legs come out and then it lands. sticks to the landing. >> Oh, Larry got hit by that rocket, huh? Larry got hit by that rocket. >> So, think about it. If if you flew to. Europe and every time you did that they. pushed the plane off a cliff and rolled.

out a new one, your ticket would be very. expensive, >> right? >> But they reused the planes and if you. reuse the rockets that that's one way to. cut it down. >> among others that they're working on. >> So, >> um, we talked about we we mentioned. gravity just a second ago. Is gravity. changing at all? Like over time? No. >> At all? >> Well, if you go to a mountaintop, >> you will weigh less on the mountain than. at sea level. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Cuz you're farther away from the. center of the Earth. But if you're just. sitting here, gravity is not changing. >> Okay. >> No. >> Um, all right. Let's get into Let's. Let's chat a little bit more. Um, and I.

do want to say, too, I know the holidays. are kind of coming up. They're not here. yet, but uh I think your book's a good. holiday gift. >> Oh, thank you for saying that. >> I had thought about that. >> Yeah, just cuz it's so beautiful. >> It's nice. It's like a nice It's like. something you can get. You could tap in. at any moment. >> and you'd gift it and it's, you know, most coffee table books you open as a. pretty picture. You might read the. caption, you close it. This one you open. it and it pulls you in. I think I wrote. it. So should I be saying that? I don't. know. Yeah. But every next fact because.

it's been startoified. The fact has been. brought to life. >> with another way to think about that. information then it it means more to. you. And there's a whole chapter on. stuff that people hope they would never. have seen again. There's a whole chapter. on the periodic table of elements. M. >> So, so for example, okay, uh, do you. know the symbol for lead on the periodic. table? Do you know what that is?

>> Na. >> That's sodium. >> Damn. White lead they call it. >> Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, PB. >> PB. >> PB. Well, PB. Where do you get that? How. do you get that from lead? Well, PB is. plumbum, which is lead in Latin. Plumbum. Plumber. Plumbers used to work in lead. All pipes. used to be lead. >> Ah,

>> that's how plumbers get their name. >> Plum. PB on the periodic table. That's. There you go. I got another one. >> There's an element we discovered on the. sun before we discovered it here on. Earth. I think it's called. uh what is it? >> We uh we named it after the Greek sun. god. >> radon.

>> Helios. >> Is the Greek sun god and that element is. helium. >> There it is. >> Helium's good. >> Yeah. Radon that was discovered by Marie. Cury. First radioactive element. She. died of cancer. It was sad. >> She didn't discover Mercury. >> No, Mercury's been around forever. >> You'd think she would have. >> Why? >> Marie Cury. >> Maybe not. >> So, I have to laugh at that joke. >> Maybe not. Maybe I'm off.

>> Okay. >> Um, >> okay. You laughed at my joke. I'll laugh. at that one. Okay. Fair. >> Okay. Then we cut to me. Okay. That was. good. That I see what you did there. Okay. >> Okay. We're even, dude. Um, let's talk. about just a couple more like little. things and then I want to I want to get. a few more things about your book and. then um we'll get you on your way and. thanks so much for hanging out Neil. >> Sure. I appreciate it. Um, but I'm. saying I think it's a good holiday gift. and it's not a lot of pressure. Some. books you pick it up, it's a ton of. pressure like but this is. >> Yeah, that's good. And personally I'm. not a big reader. If someone hands me a. you know 500page book, you know, when do.

you start it? When do you stop? What? And we're all busy. >> Where do you hide it? >> No, but this is not that. It's it's. biscuits of information that just just. rise up. >> and then you can't not reach for. another. >> It's galactic biscuits, man. Starbohydrates. >> Okay, that's bad. >> That's a good one. No, that's good. I. damn well. >> Starbohydrates. >> Yeah, >> good. Good one. >> Thanks. Thanks. Um, what are what are. you going to be for Halloween? Let's get. into that. >> I was never a Halloween person.

>> Come on, Neil. >> You know why? What? Once I learned. >> why people dress up, >> I said that's why I don't dress up. >> Why do you think it's sacrilegious kind. of? >> No, no, no, no, no. People dress up. because it's the one day where they can. be something in their fantasies. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> And I never had fantasies. I never had I. I was a very literal kid. I. >> just just a reality based. >> Yeah. I was completely reality based.

And so to dress up like something and. pretend to be that I was just myself. I. didn't need to pretend. So I I was a. literal kid. And it was I was much later. before I would. >> really. >> appreciate. what it was what it is to be fully. human, which is you have feelings, emotions, you cry, you. >> That came later in life for you. >> Later in life. Later in life. >> Wow. >> In my life, I have never We used to have. telephones with handsets. Mhm. >> I've never slammed down the handset.

>> That's an emotion that I've never I've. never slammed a door. >> out of anger. I just never had that. Which is weird cuz I used to wrestle. I. spent eight I was captain of my high. school wrestling team. So, >> but it was I if someone beat me, it was. like good, now I know I need to get. better. It wasn't I'm angry. Let me No, I never had emotions like that. So, I'm. I'm enchanted by Halloween, but I never. had the urge to dress up. >> Now, you can say if I did dress up, what.

would it be? I'll tell you. >> That's fair. >> I'll tell you. I would be. uh. nerd savior man. >> Okay. I don't have I don't have a word. for it because in high school, cuz like. I said, I used to wrestle. I was 190. pounds in high school, captain and. undefeated, >> but I went to a geeky high school. >> Everybody's a geek. And there's a high. school across the way that would take. our lunch money every time. Okay? And I. wanted to fight against that. So I had.

this fantasy that first I could fly and. that if there's a geek in trouble, they'd beam like digits of pi on the. sky. And the more digits of pie, the. more serious the situation was. and I. see it in sky and I fly and it come down. and you know the the kid would be. wedgied or something on the hook or you. know something that cool kids did to. geeky kids. >> Yeah. >> And I would just pummel the out of. them.

>> Yeah. >> And I'd say I and I'd say go forth in. freedom and but I'm a geek, too. So I'm. a geek protector. >> But you a boss geek. >> Yes. I I could I was a kick-ass geek. protector. Yeah. And to this day, if I. see geeks getting, you know, abused in. the street or because they're not as. cool, they're not dressed as nice, I I. will intervene. >> and cuz I know I can kick some ass if I. have to. Plus, I used to study martial. arts, >> but more as a curiosity thing, but and I. wanted to be Bruce Lee, you know. Um,

>> not for Halloween, but. >> you'd have been good. Hey. >> Yeah. So, um, the moral to that for me. is just I I don't like seeing people. harmed or abused just for being who they. are. >> Amen. Yeah, I agree with you. Right. Right. On that. >> Yeah. And. >> it's not good. >> Yeah. It's just. >> it's Well, what I mean it's not good. Of. course, it's not. But yeah, I agree with. you that. Yeah. There's something about. like um. >> they didn't do anything to you. They.

didn't. >> And they're already the underdog. >> Right. Right. Sometimes. >> Yeah. Right. Now, you know, a lot of. that changed in my life. I'm a little. older than. >> a lot of changed in our life. >> Yeah. Yes, it has. Because the the. bullies learned that. the geeks know how to program their. computer and could help them with the. math homework. And and now the world is. run by geeks. >> Run by geeks. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to just I. >> In other words, the most powerful people. in the world are geeks on the spectrum. Half of them. >> Yeah. I think half them are on the. spectrum. Do you believe that?

>> I one out of six. I I'm not clinically. authorized to make this diagnosis, but. based on being around my colleagues my. whole life, I would say one in six, one. in five is on the spectrum in some way. >> Perfectly happy in the lab, eye contact. is a little difficult. >> But do you think that that's why we're. starting like we create more stuff that. like is tech, but there's not that we're. losing the connection because. >> Oh, interesting point. because they. they're very focused and they can.

>> but they but they sometimes lack an. element of being able to read certain. like. >> that's deep and I I'd have to do the. research to conclude that. But let me. restate what I think you just said. >> Okay. >> If geeks on the spectrum are inventing. the next wave technology, >> should we be surprised that that next. wave technology. >> has no understanding or sensitivity to. the human element, the interpersonal. human element, right? because that. wasn't in the people who invented it in. the first place.

>> Yeah, >> that's that's deep. I wonder if that's true. >> Because here we are and we're letting. these guys do some stuff, >> right? >> And we're all It's hurting. >> It's It's hurting. And And they they. didn't want it to hurt on purpose. No, >> they just didn't have the need for. themselves, >> right? They didn't understand, right? So. why would they incorporate it, >> right? Why would they even know. that you would become so addicted to. your social media and how you look to. other people? What's it called? The your.

your self-image. >> It's you don't you enter a depressed. state because you're not as beautiful as. other people who are online curating. their their presence, >> right? >> You don't even know that that they're. not even real. >> Yeah. Or not they're not authentic, I. should say. Yeah. So, >> the creators don't understand that. because they don't have that software. >> Maybe that's intriguing. I'd be curious. to see what research says about that. >> And I'm not saying all people that are. on.

>> No, but it's a hypothesis worth testing. >> Oo, I like that, dude. Now we're doing. something together. That's exciting. Yeah. I was trying to think of some good. What is this one right here? >> Oh, pie in the sky. There. That's a That. would be a serious. >> Bro, you look tough, Neil. Oh, >> I didn't create that. That's somebody. I. don't know who did that. >> But still, that looks good. What about. uh Michael? >> We are now looking at AI rendered. version of me with a pie superhero. outfit with a cape, stars on it, and. there must be 500 digits of pie in the.

sky. >> That'd be terrible. >> That means the world is about to end. >> And I think that's uh current. Okay. >> What about a Halloween costume? Mike. Degrasse Tyson. See if you can put that. in AI. See what happens next. >> No. Well, the thing about science is, you. know, >> and then there's the supermodel Tyson. Beckford. >> Oh, here you go. >> OH. >> OH, LET'S GO. >> OH. OH, >> DUDE. Let me say that. >> What does it say on my arm there? >> Freick or knock out?

>> Oh, what about uh Tyson chicken nugget? That. would be good if he was a little If he. was a little nugget, >> that'd be good. You'd eat yourself, too, probably. You know, who wouldn't? >> That works until you die. Yes. Okay. >> Out of all. That's true. But hey, if. you're starving, that'd be a risky. moment, wouldn't it be? >> That'd be a risky moment. >> Oh, that's cute, Neil. You do not look. happy about it. >> No, >> but you would definitely probably have a. little bit of yourself. >> Chicken tender.

>> Chicken tender is good. Um, >> no. Let me see with Tyson Beckford cuz. he's a supermodel. >> Yeah, let's see if Let's at least. >> see if I look hot. >> at the very least, man. He's not going. to look hot with Tyson Beckford. >> or Neil Degrassi Tyson too. Put that in. there. That's a um. >> you know mean Degrassi High. >> Yeah, remember that. >> That'd be weird. How are they going to. They can't They can't mash that. That. doesn't. >> you know it's science. >> There you go. >> Why am I in a wheelchair? >> Because that character was in a.

wheelchair. Drake's character. >> But Tyson Beckford. >> No, no, this is Degrassi. Neil Degrass. Degrassi. Oh. Oh, got you. Got you. Neil. stepped ahead of me there. >> Yeah, this was Neil innocent enough, doesn't it? >> Yeah, it looks good. >> Yeah. >> Oh, let's go. >> Oh, >> let's go. >> Oh, >> dude. That's awesome, man. Well, look, there you go. Look, I'll say this. You. got some great costumes that come that. just because you exist, some cool new. universes can show up in the world.

>> I officially give you my permission to. post these that you just created. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Of me in there. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. >> Um. >> Oh, there he goes. Yeah, that was Drake. I forgot that was Drake. >> Yeah, that was him, man. >> Yeah, >> he's talented. >> Um, let me see. Where can we Uh, >> did you ever want to be. abducted by aliens? Do you fear them or. do you. >> I more than ever. would like them to come get me.

>> Really? >> Yeah. And that's the truth, I think. And. I don't mean that in any like I'm scared. for my life way or anything like that or. I'm gonna. >> Yeah. But so my same sentiment is maybe. for a different reason. I I want to be. abducted ever since a child I've been. ever since I was 10 years old. I wanted. to be abducted. Not cuz I wanted to. leave Earth, >> but that I wanted to see what the rest. of the universe was like. And if they. could abduct me, they should clearly. have access to the universe in ways that. I don't. So it was because I've been I. was a curious cosmically curious kid.

>> Wow. Oh, that's pretty cool, man. >> Yeah. >> Did you ever feel like they might not. abduct you because of your skin color? >> Never. Never. They're aliens for goodness sake. >> I didn't mean that in a bad way. >> No, no, I know. No. I I had no such. thoughts because. >> cuz I've had black friends that are. like, "Aliens don't abduct us." And this. type of. >> Oh, there was the the Key and Peel skit. >> Huh? >> You know the Key and Peel skit? >> This was hilarious. It's a suburb. suburbia, right? >> It was so funny. and and there's zombies.

coming up the street and. and they turn to this home where black. people live and it goes around back and. they're barbecuing and then the zombie. just like recoils and it goes back to. the street and chases the white people. So these are like racist zombies. It's it's a whole skit. It's an entire. skit. And so all the black people just. sell just hanging out on lawn chairs and. the white people are just going crazy. Oh dude. So I had no such thoughts that.

alien would somehow see me as a black. human just as a human. But I knew cuz. I'm old enough to remember the Apollo. program, the Mercury 7 astronauts and. all these guys. None of them look like me. >> in the slightest. Not only that, on. Broadway was the number one hit musical, Hair, and none of these guys had hair longer. than an inch an inch on their head. All. these crew cuts. So, I was interested in.

space, not because of the Apollo. program, because there it looked like. there was nothing in there for me. >> Wow. >> And it was more pure curiosity with the. universe and me and the aliens, we'll. take it. Yeah. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> If you got in there, right, say they. come and get you. Okay. They're doing a. special, right? And they want to get. different types of folks up there. >> Uhhuh. >> You know, the whites aren't cutting it. anymore. >> Well, no. Just think about it. Ask. yourself this, okay?

When you look at pigeons. >> Mhm. >> Are you grouping them into kinds of. pigeons? No, you're not. Because they're. just pigeons to you. >> But if you really did it, some surface. patterns of their feathers are. different. >> Okay? And when you look at an alligator, do you even know who's a female and. who's a male alligator? No. >> No. >> You don't. And do you know what the P? You don't even care because you were so. different from the alligator. You're not. focused on how alligators differ from.

each other. You're focused on the fact. that it's a freaking alligator. >> Yeah. So, if you're an octopus. and you look at humans, >> are you saying, "Oh, this human has a. different color skin than this human.". No. You're a creature that swims in the. ocean with eight legs. >> Okay? All you're going to see are these. humanoid things that have a head, only. four limbs and not eight. >> Okay? And you're living in the air, not.

in the water. that will preoccupy your. awareness of them. If humanoid aliens. came, which is all Hollywood can think. of creating. >> The octopus will not distinguish between. us and them. >> Yeah. >> Because they always have two eyes, a. nose, a mouth, a head, shoulders, neck, arms, legs, torso, feet, arms, hands, and fingers. >> And that's it. >> That's what we do. You know, do you. realize. that all life on Earth has common DNA?

And that bananas have 25% identical. genes to human beings. >> Nuh-uh. >> And because of that, if you get an alien. from another planet that has no DNA at. all or has DNA, but none of it is in. common with us, it should look at least. as different from humans as bananas at. humans look from each other. >> And all Hollywood depictions are they're. walking and talking and walking, coming. down, whistling. Well, you know, so so I.

had no such thoughts that aliens will. notice my skin color. >> And I'm pretty sure any future aliens. would feel the same. >> I just didn't know because a lot of. abductions seem like it's a lot of times. often a guy that is seems kind of white. >> Yeah. Well, actually, one of the first. and most famous abductions, you can look. this one up, is the Betty and Barney. Hill case. >> Barney Hill was a black man. >> Was he? Betty Hill was a white woman.

>> Let me see him. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. He looks kind of black. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Barney and Betty Hill were American. couple and civil rights activists who. claimed they were abducted by. extraterrestrials in a rural portion of. the state of New Hampshire from. September 19th to 20th, 1961. The. incident came to be called the Hill. abduction and the Zeta Reticuli incident. because two ufologists connected the. star map allegedly shown to Betty Hill. with the Zeta Reticuli system. The story.

was adapted in the bestselling 1966 book. The Interrupted Journey and the. television film The UFO Incident. >> And that television film uh James Jones. played. Barney Hill. >> Did he really? >> Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Very. cool. But so anyhow, so so. >> and you obviously played James Earl. Jones. >> This is CNN. Uh so so uh so anyhow, so aliens early.

on have been abducting. black people, but not in the numbers. that they do of white people. >> But this is an early mixed couple. That. might have been why they got them. Oh, >> you know what I'm saying? It might have. been. Who knows? >> And they look like a beautiful couple, too. Yes, they're very well-groomed, I. think, is the way you say. >> They look like a beautiful couple and. I'm glad they got brought back. Did they. get brought back? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay, good. >> Yeah. And so it's So, I'm just saying. there's precedent for at least some. black people to be abducted, but you are. correct. The overwhelming majority are.

white people and. >> English- speakaking people. M if you. look at a map of all reported UFO. incidents in the world, they uh go muon. mu fo n they'll have a map mapped there. UFO sighting maps. That's it. Whoa. Okay. Notice hardly any in Mexico. Every. dot there on this map, >> wow, >> is a reported UFO sighting. Now, it. could be that if you don't speak. English, you don't know where to report.

it. That could be so. I get it. But the. >> but you could just tell your friend. >> difference here is. >> you know now rotate the map or go to. some other place. Can you rotate the. map? There you go. Rotate it around. Look at. that. Okay. Little bit in India. Keep. turning. >> England. There you go. >> And then right across the the the. channel. >> Okay. Now come down to Australia. Okay. Well, Australia doesn't have many. people to begin with, but in all the.

major cities sightings, correct? >> And what about China? Are they reporting. them? >> They're not allowed to, are they? >> I you know, it's I'm just saying this. UFO thing is such an American. phenomenon. And so either the the aliens. just like English-speaking people. >> or. or no one else gives a or. it's just it's the English people know. better how to report their sightings. than other people do or we're more. gullible in thinking that something is.

aliens when it's just some natural. phenomenon. So this this this map is. staggering I think. >> And and dude, I'll tell you this. honestly. I think that um. >> the final war on the planet is gonna be. blacks versus aliens. >> Black black humans versus aliens. Yeah. >> Really? So that's that's a movie that. looks like it's going to be in the. sequence with predator versus aliens. >> I mean. >> predator v aliens. Uh humans vi black.

people v aliens. Okay. >> Because. somebody going to have to battle them. Oh, I know. Let me let me cut you off. here. It's Is it like Wasn't there some. movie called Jason Takes Manhattan? And. someone did a parody on that? Jason. tries to take Harlem. Jason comes up with this mask and A. HATCHET. BOOM. GET OUT OF MY GET OUT OF. MY BACK.

Cuz black people are not going to stand. for this. >> They're not Black people at a certain. point are not going to stand for aliens. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I think more of a white uh society. will just fall into it too easy. At a. certain point, black people are going to. detect this. >> We've all seen the videos of people. trying to to scare black people with. Halloween tricks. Like someone pops out. of the can, get punched. Yeah. It's just. >> Yeah. Stay in the can. >> Stay in the can. >> Yeah. >> I So I see. That's interesting. So all. the white people of the world would have.

acquiesced to the demands of the aliens. and would have just gotten absorbed and. black people holding out. >> Yeah. >> And it'll be the final battle. >> Yeah. I think that they're they end up. being the savers of the world. >> Wow. Wow. >> Cuz I think it's just. >> that's a movie. >> cuz every great story is the arc, you. know. >> No, that that missed its time that. should have come out like 1973. that. movie. >> with black exploitation films where. black people are kicking ass and it was. okay for everybody to do. Even white. people said, "Okay, we'll give it to you.

because we've been so hard on you all. these years. We'll you kick our ass for. a few for a few years in the movies.". That would have been the good time. Black people versus. >> But I'm talking that that one had the. movie Blackula. You ever. >> did they have that? >> Yes. Blackula. >> Oh, damn. >> Yeah. Yeah. So that that was the era. where this movie should. >> Who is that? It's not Richard Prior, is. it? >> No, no, no, no, no. It was a serious. movie. It looks like it would be a joke. But no, >> I would love to see that. And look,

there he is biting some white chick. >> I've seen that before. >> But no, I think I'm not even joking, Neil. I believe that that is going to be. the that's going to be the battle. And I. believe that uh that they saved the. planet. That's what I believe. Somebody. is going to hear this podcast and is. going to write that script. >> We need it. We need it. I mean, I'm I'm. at a point like we need that's what. because I don't know what else can save. save everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um. >> another thing they come down to these.

badass spaceships and here we are. getting our guns out of the cabinet and. shooting at Really? Like re Don't you. just see what has happened here? >> The bullet will like absorb into their. ship and it will become part of their. ship. >> Yeah. For example, right? Yeah. >> Can you just extrapolate what's. happening here? So, that's right. So, the black, we don't have as many guns as. the white people do, but we would know. the guns would be pointless. We'd have. to find some other way to get them. >> They'll figure it out.

>> Yeah. Maybe barbecue. >> You think? >> That seems racial. >> That seems racial to me, dude. After all. the stuff we've said. >> I know. They'll listen to our m They'll. listen to jazz. Jazz will Oh, >> now we're talking. >> Yeah. And then the aliens just be. chilling, smoking. >> Oh, >> dude. That's how they'll that there'll.

be some way, but that's how that's how. >> that'll be it'll be their muse. >> I believe that. >> It'll be their. >> That's I've always believed that. How. long have I said that for, Nick? >> That which calms. >> 26 years ago. How long ago? >> Two to six years. >> Two to six years ago. Sorry. >> That which calms the inner beast of the. alien. >> is some smooth jazz. >> Um your book before you go uh yeah. anything else about aliens or we can go. in your book has a chapter on the. zodiac.

>> So thanks for giving my alien book a. shout out. It came out earlier this year. back in May. >> Take me to your Yeah. Yeah. That it's a. small book very fits in your pocket kind. of thing. And that book is like. everything you need to know for your. alien encounter. And it's grounded in. physics. I mean, so it's not it's to try. to anchor the conversations people are. having about what they see, what they. think they see, what they want to see. It's in there. There's a chapter on. alien intelligence, alien technology, alien powers.

Um, what powers do aliens show in a. movie that might be possible on Earth. even if it's beyond our current. technologies? So, it's a it's a very. serious but fun exploration in that. So, thanks for giving that a shout out and. and but the Lost in Space, like I said, that's a big fat old 5,000 fact book. >> Yeah. >> Uh National Geographic, they don't they. don't do ugly. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Oh, yeah. Some of the images and just. like Yeah, it's a nice journey of like.

kind of information and uh. >> Yeah. >> enjoying yourself. You're laying on the. couch. You're enjoying something. You're. sitting there. >> You got to dip dip in. >> Yeah. put a dip in. >> Yeah. Yeah. And you know, for my. podcast, I wanted it to have a tagline, but our marketing person nixed it. >> I wanted because you come and you have. fun and you learn something. So the. tagline was. >> learn something for a change. That's. what I was going to say. And they said, "No, that's too offput." It was too And.

so in this book, it's like learn. something for a change. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Last question before you go, I guess. All right. Um, could aliens bring new. elements and stuff and new science here. that we haven't seen? Like would it. alter the fabric of our science? Does. that make sense? >> Yeah, it's a great question. So, in the. chapter alien powers and alien science. and technology, I explore the science. that we have discovered on Earth that. applies across the universe and across.

time. They are beholden to that. But. then there are there's other things. about the universe that are mysteries to. us that they might have harnessed. >> like dark matter, dark energy, wormholes. >> You know how to make a wormhole? You you. need a negative gravity material. It would be a substance. Normal things. have gravity. This is negative gravity. >> Like what? Mud or something? >> No, no, no. It's just it doesn't exist.

We don't know. But maybe an alien. figured out how to make it. And if you. can make a negative gravity thing, instead of bringing things together, which gravity does, it pri things apart, which is what you need to make a. wormhole. >> Yeah. So, but here's the thing. If they. master wormholes, >> then they connect where they are to. where we are and they just step through, they wouldn't need spaceships. >> They would step through like like Rick. and Morty. You know, Rick has a he opens. a portal where who's who's this dude on. in the um Avengers, uh Doctor Strange?

You just step through. >> and they would just be here. >> Then you just be here if if it's a. proper wormhole, right? It's not a whole. tube that you pass through. You just. step through. So So if they mastered. that, then they would not be seen in. spaceships. >> Where would you go if you could. wormhole? >> Oh, center of the galaxy. That's got to be. bad. There's a super massive black hole. there. I would need radiation protection. because there's a lot of uh lethal.

electromagnetic energy coming out of. there. But yeah, center of the galaxy. feels cool to me. >> How many people have we sent there? >> Zero. >> Ever? >> To the center of the galaxy? >> What do you mean? We we we've only been. to the moon like six times. >> Oh man. >> So what do you mean go to the center of. the galaxy? Is like. it's go Yeah. >> 30,000 light years away. Nobody. >> I didn't know that. Oh, galaxy, dude. Galaxy, >> bro. I don't know. >> Okay. Well, Earth, Earth, and the.

planets and the sun, solar system. >> Okay. >> We and 400 billion other stars. >> Uh-huh. >> Milky Way galaxy. >> Okay. >> We and thousands of other galaxies. The. Virgo supercluster of galaxies. >> Other superclusters combined. The. universe. >> They keep renaming this thing and making. it bigger. >> Bigger and bigger. Yeah. As we discover. it. Yeah. >> As we discover. It's like they just kind. of give you a little more bread. You. should eat a little more breadcrumb. >> Well, yeah. Incremental disc. That's why. we make new telescopes. So, so is there. new physics? There could be, but the.

physics we know is not going to be. different for them. >> So, so our physics would have to apply. to them. >> certain aspects of our physics. Yes. Because we've tested it on Earth and. across the universe. Got it. So the. periodic table of elements which you saw. in your chemistry class. >> that is full. It used to have gaps in it and we said. wait there's a gap here. There must be. an element. Let's look for it. Let's. synthesize it. Let's create it. Bada. bing. Here's the element. The first.

element. This is in the book. The first. element that was manufactured. because it was a gap in the whole. element. We do we see this in nature? No. Nature doesn't make this element. Let's make it ourselves. That's how. badass we are. We made this element and. we named it after the prefix we use for. things that are artificially made. Do. you know that prefix? >> Tech. It's called technesium. >> Technesium. >> We invented that. And.

>> wow. >> I. >> And that's a real element. >> Yeah. In fact, it has very s important. and significant medical applications. And can you just buy it. >> or is it like a. >> I've never tried. There are labs that. can synthesize it, but. >> Wow. >> Yeah, you can't. No. What are you going. to do with I mean what what would you do. with it if you. >> I don't know. I'm just have some, I. guess. I don't even know. I mean. >> Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. >> I didn't know it existed. >> Well, right. So, there's. >> Yeah. Yes, you can buy techni. >> technesium. >> Technesium, but it is strictly regulated. and very difficult for private.

individuals to obtain in pure form. because it is radioactive. >> Yes. >> Never mind. >> Radioactive. do not want that. >> Keep your gonads. >> Yeah. >> So, so the the element is full. When the. Knicks were in the playoffs, >> they hadn't been since I was in middle. school. >> Wow. Okay. >> 52 years or something. >> Yeah. Yeah. Some Yeah. I was I'm an old. fart. And so I while they were in the. playoffs, I tweeted I said I forgot the. exact number, but it's approximate. I.

said the last time the Knicks won the. championship, the periodic table had 11 fewer elements. just just to measure time by our rate of. discovery of these elements. So we're up. to 118. Nature only makes 92 of them. >> Wow. >> We manufacture. So we got the periodic. table. That is what the universe is made. of materially. >> What I looked like last time you were at. Nixon Championship. Look at you, boy. Oh.

yeah. See, I'm very geeky. I got a. camera that that was one of the world's. first selfies. It turns out, you know. who selfied this before me? Uh is is. Colon Powell has a photo of himself in a. mirror. >> Uh so I just thought this would be a. cool thing to do when I was 14 or. something. >> Dude, that's cool. >> So that's one of several posts and I. have like a karate kimono thing. >> Yeah, I can see that. Uh so if you. >> So you had some cool hobbies. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I developed my own film. and I was a geek kid like you were.

saying. Um. >> can there be more elements though? >> So no because those elements are just. how many protons are in the nucleus? There's an element with one proton. that's hydrogen. Two protons helium. Three lithium. Four. boron. Five. Six is is carbon. Yeah. >> Seven is nitrogen. Eight is oxygen. >> Good. They all have names and they're in. sequence. There's no room to fit any.

other element because we're counting. protons. At the high end, we're up to. 118 proudly, but maybe the aliens have. 119, 20, 120. Yes. >> What about kryptonite? >> That's entirely krypton. That's a gas. >> and we have it. >> That's a gas. >> Do we have it? >> Oh, yeah. yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Krypton is a noble gas. Uh, >> good. Not that anybody asked, but in the. time that has elapsed since the Knicks. last won a championship, we've. discovered eight new subatomic.

particles. >> Dang. >> The the J Sai Maison, the Tao Leptton, the bottom quark, the Gluon, the WZ. Bzon, the top quark, the tow nutrino, and the Higs Bzon. Nobel prizes all. around. >> And they are all entering the portal as. well this week. Probably awesome. >> What's the next one? Not that anybody. asked, but the last time the New York. Knicks won a championship, Stephen. Spielberg had not yet made a. featurelength movie about aliens. That's. how long ago that was. That's all I'm.

saying. Uh, so whatever they make their craft. out of, it's got to be these. ingredients. >> Got it. >> So I can talk about these ingredients. that they have. Maybe they may have some. fancy alloy. Sure. But they're made of. these ingredients. Um, can they do they. have negative gravity substance? Maybe. I don't know. >> I'm not going to preclude that. Maybe. they figure that out. Um, can they read. your mind.

if they get close enough? Maybe. Because. you your your brain is electromagnetic. signals. >> It does. >> Yes. And that's why you can put. electrodes on your head and read your. brain waves. So, yes. In principle, yes. We don't know how to do that yet, but I. give that to them. Yeah, >> give it to them. They're more advanced. >> Sure. They came all the way here. Give. it. >> They came all the way here. Give it to. them. >> So, there's a whole conversation there. about powers they have, but I'm not. giving them the physics that we've. already established.

>> Got it. >> We We're good with that. >> Yeah. And we know that because we can. measure atomic phenomenon in other stars. and other galaxies across space and. throughout time. And so we're good. there. >> Be proud of that. >> Amen. >> What do you think's like the next. biggest realm of discovery in science? Like where where is science really going. to start to. >> I think we're going to get in our genome. and start messing. We're going to start. playing God.

>> I think. uh Oh, you want to play a piano with 12. fingers? Let's put in the gene that. gives you a sixth finger on each hand. and then compose something that'll do. that. I think. who we are and what we look like might. become boutiquey. >> Okay. >> And that's I hope that doesn't happen. >> Mhm. >> Because so much of what makes life. interesting is working with what you've. got, how inventive you need to be to.

work with how you are and what. >> right? It gives us a purpose. >> It gives you let me work with this, right? >> Let me see what I can do here. and this. urge to be normal. I think every interesting thing that's. ever happened in civilization was. created or imagined or. assembled by people who are not normal. >> If everybody were normal, nothing would.

happen. Think about that. >> Yeah. >> So, uh, in praise of. >> being abnormal, there's a famous quote. I think it was. George Bernard Shaw. Reasonable people follow rules and do. what they're told. Unreasonable people. break rules and do things that they're. not supposed to do. >> So all advances in civilization have. come about from the work of unreasonable.

people. >> Wow. >> If you only do what you're told, you. will never make a discovery. >> Amen. I mean, that goes back to even. some of the stuff. It's like the person. that's different, the person that's the. the that's going to do things at a beat. of a different drummer or whatever, right? >> That's the per like. >> celebrate that. >> Yeah, that might be the savior. >> and. >> that might be the liaison. It might be. the patriot that gets us to the next. level. >> The link there. And here's just an. interesting fact. Uh I don't know what. percentage of the public is trans.

uh some numbers put it in low single. digits and then if you're like a. normalist you would say well fix that. they're not normal they're abnormal you. go okay. do you realize that. 98%. of all atoms in the universe are. hydrogen and helium. 98%.

everything that is what we care about. and love is enabled led by what's in. that 2%. The iron, the oxygen, the silicon, the. nitrogen, the phosphorus, the everything. else. is what makes this universe what it is. And it's in that 2%. >> The variety. >> There it is. >> The cadmium. >> that's in there, too. >> Is it? >> Yes. >> Yeah, dude. Yeah, man. You got to have. variety. You got to have difference. and. and also.

>> it's the it's the it's the forces we put. on ourselves to try to make people. conform to what is normal or average. So. that that disturbs me. I I I want people. to celebrate being different. Yeah. >> Not be sad that they're not the same. Right. >> Yeah. Amen to that, too. >> Yeah. >> And a lot of it is like the is like. stuff like media, online stuff that just. it's created to create the fight. >> Oh yeah. Cuz in the end, I think people, you walk up to anybody, somebody most.

people would take care of each other. >> I'd like to think so. >> But generally, they would do so if. you're the only two in the boat. >> And all you have is each other. >> But if you're with a clan of a hundred. people and there three people who are. different out there, it's way too easy. to reject them. It almost comes naturally within us. >> to. protect what's in group and reject. what's out. >> out of group. >> Well, hopefully we don't get into a. place where people are like, you know,

things are getting that rough out there, you know? >> I hope not. I mean, it's it definitely. has happened that way in some parts of. the world. >> Oh, for sure. Definitely. >> I'm not saying that it hasn't. For sure, but I mean, I hope it doesn't get to. like we're at the like where things get. so like dystopian out there and stuff. I. don't think that's going to happen in. the end. Do you think that existence. wins like that good wins? >> Uh so in that vein there's a there's a. paragraph I want to read from Carl. Sean's Pale Blue Dot. >> Okay. >> Okay. And it encapsulates so much of. what my people feel as astrophysicists.

because we see Earth not just as living. humans on the surface. >> We think of Earth from space. >> and from deep space. Okay. >> And what does it look like? What does it. feel like? What are you thinking? >> Okay. >> And there's Earth just this orb. A. drift. What are you thinking? Earth is a very small stage in a vast. cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of.

blood spilled by all those generals and. emperors so that in glory and in triumph. they could become the momentary masters. of a fraction of a dot. Think of the. endless cruelties visited by the. inhabitants of one corner of the dot on. scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of. some other corner of the dot. How. frequent their misunderstandings. How eager they are to kill one another.

how fervent their hatreds, our. posturings, our imagined. self-importance, the delusion that we. have some privileged position in the. universe are challenged by this point of. pale light. >> So I I think about that all the time. >> You will not find legions of. astrophysicists. leading soldiers into battle. >> Yeah, >> that is not ever going to happen. >> You would think we could do better. And. I think most of us want to.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, >> I Well, you know what? You know, it has. to be it has to be what I found the most. potent way to to get someone to accept. someone else. >> is to have your kids want to marry one. of them. I mean, think about it. Historically, marriages were like packs. between countries to bring peace. Yeah. >> Among them. They marry the royalty off. and now you got to have be friends. So. >> that's the truth. >> Maybe there's deep truth in that.

>> Oh, I've always said beige power, man. >> I think it all ends it all ends really. beige, man. I've always said beige. power, dude. >> Um Neil Degrass Tyson, thank you so. much, brother. Um, >> thanks for having me back. I mean, I. enjoyed our last time together, but we I. can't I'm not leaving till we both look. at this baby version of us when you. asked me a question and I answered it. Let's take a look at this. >> That sounds fair. Let's check it out.

right here. >> This is like I think what AI was. intended for. >> Oh, yeah. Is outer space gay or straight? >> Okay, so I'm going to give you an. answer. Are you ready? >> Yeah. >> Is outer space gay or straight? Practically everything we see and. measure in space, not only objects, but. temperature, size, density, is on a. spectrum. So for you to say, is the. universe gay or straight? I'm going to. tell you whatever the universe is, it's.

on a spectrum. >> So it's by. >> that was. >> Yeah, I never even seen that, dude. >> You haven't seen that? How you don't see. your own stuff? Uh-uh. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't. My mother sends me. stuff sometimes. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> It was fun, dude. Our last our last. conversation was fun, man. I've listened. to it a couple times over the years and. um just grateful to have you back and. just grateful that you keep just. contributing to the world. Uh sharing. and opening your heart up and and. sharing things that are.

>> Whoever will listen, I'm there for. >> you've done a great job over the years, man. So, thank you so much for your. content. >> I keep laughing and I meant that in. space. >> Yeah. >> You you knock on the door, I'll let you. in. And. >> hey, and if you do that, then I won't be. Lost in Space. >> How about that? >> You'll have a guide. >> Yeah, I will. I like that. >> Lost in Space: 5,000 Facts for. Navigating the Universe. Uh, that's your. new book. Um, it's a beauty. It's a. >> Thanks for the shout out. >> Yep. You bet, man. And, uh, thank you so. much, Neil. I appreciate it, man. >> All right.

>> I feel like these. corner stone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll. share this peace of mind I found. I can. feel it in my.