Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern) | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #658

Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Let me. praise God. Good to see you guys. tonight. Thank you for coming out and. um. >> [cheering]. >> you know, this podcast has given me like. just so many uh little moments in my. life that have been so special and. um. and tonight is certainly no different. like uh. you know, it's rare that you get a get. to sit across from one of the most.

recognizable people in in human history. Um this is a man who's been the. heavyweight champion of the world, okay? The entire world. >> [applause]. >> He's been everything. He's been a. father. He's been a dang. uh inmate. He's been a drug dealer. He's. been a. But I'm just saying this is a man who. has done I mean that admirationally, honestly. Uh. He's been a father. He's just done so. many things. Um life has put so much on.

his shoulders and uh and I'm curious to. know what that's what it's like um to be. him, you know? And I'm grateful to get. to spend time with him today. Uh I I. feel very fortunate to announce today's. guest is Mr. Mike Tyson. >> [cheering]. [applause]. [applause].

[cheering]. [applause]. >> Woo! >> [cheering]. >> You look sharp, Mike. Uh thank you. Thank you very much. I. went to Stefano Ricci because I knew I.

was coming here. I wasn't going to wear. a suit. I was going to be casual, but I. had to be casually sharp. Yeah, yeah. I. think you did it, man. Thank you. >> Uh, do you like dressing up or not? I love it. >> You do? I do it just for no reason. I'm. in my closet just trying on clothes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like a little like kind of a. like a little mannequin kind of like a. very tough mannequin? No, it's like a a real life stud. [snorts] just trying on his clothes.

Do you like putting on stuff? Have you. always been like that or was that kind. of. >> You know, let me tell you a story. One. day um. these guys um they pretty much bullied. me to help them That's how I fell in. love with pigeons. They helped me build. their pigeon coop. And so I started coming there often, but. I I was like 11 years old. I didn't know. about washing and changing clothes. My. mother would take a hot washing cloth. put a soap on the towel just washed me. I never washed myself. So after being on.

the pigeon coop I have tar from building. the pigeon coop. I got [ __ ] on me. Yeah. >> Some guys some guys took me to this. neighborhood dance and everybody said, "Yo, John, hey Winky, this your friend? He got [ __ ] on him in there." Everybody. started laughing at me. I started. laughing. I was crying. They were. talking about me. And ever since that um. I became a criminal. I only bought nice. clothes. There's [clears throat] this What. happened? Isn't that crazy? I became a criminal to. buy nice clothes from the way they were.

laughing at me. Now now when they try to play they say, "Wow, you look nice.". >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you're under arrest, but you look. great. >> Yeah, oh, I love those pictures. Oh, those are the great ones. Yeah, there's. something more respectable about a. criminal that is well dressed, isn't. there? Um he become the rogue that we. love. It becomes a what is it? >> The rogue that we love. >> The rogue that we love. >> R O G U E? Yes, sir. >> Yes. Thank you for joining me today, Mike. I. appreciate you, man. And thank you for.

just You've You've shared a lot of your. life with the world. Is it sometimes. scary how much you've shared? Like when. you Or some of it is. >> correct you. You. You made one mistake calling me a drug. dealer. I don't have the discipline to. be a drug dealer cuz I keep getting high. on my own supply. I wish I had the discipline to be a drug. dealer, I would be rich. >> [laughter]. >> Like everybody wants to buy the cops. Everybody want to buy from me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn I Oh, hold on. I. was a Oh, man. I was I'd have bought. coke from you. Oh.

Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. You were going to say what I interrupted. you. That I enjoyed getting high. Getting high was my life. Alcohol, too, but both of it was my. life. It would uh I love, man. Oh, I was. sober I'm sober for 9 years. Believe. that? Sober for 9 years, congratulations. Sober for 9 years. On the count of three, can we both say. our favorite drug? You want to say it at. the same time or is that weird? Hey, man. I'm a I'm a.

equal opportunity. Oh, so. >> have no favorite drug. You didn't have a. favorite, huh? No. Mhm. Anything that got me out of me I like. Anything that got you out of you. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's something about being. yourself that just gets to be too much, doesn't it? >> power, man. God gave you more than you. can handle. You think that God put too. much power in your hands? No, no way. God broke me before he crowned me. Of. course I am I'm going to be able to. handle it.

And then they say, "Hey, you're a cool kid. Take that." Boom. And then they do that. You know, I've said some like different. folks and. but nobody I think has had like like on. their own face has so many like you you. You a lot of scars on you that are just. built into you from like wars, right? Do. you ever look at your own face and you. can know Do you know like which ones are. from which fights and stuff? I think you know listen that's. interesting that you say that. I think. it I think it comes from accumulation of. fighting.

You know, you don't wake up overnight. and you got a uh a line on your face. It. comes after years and years of waking up. and you say, "Oh, I got a line on my. face." Which was there which was the. start which you started 10 years ago but. you didn't you just haven't seen it yet. Oh, so you kind of gets. worn in sort of. Well, absolutely. Yeah, pretty much. >> Yeah. You You have a a documentary that you're. starting that's coming out this year on. Netflix. Is that right? >> I believe so. I don't know when it's. coming out but I believe it's coming out. soon.

Okay. You've done a lot of documentaries. Did. you feel different about this one? Like. what do you feel like there's something. different to offer now to. uh people that are going to consume it? That's interesting that you say that. I'm going to give you all the answers. There's things that people believe that. other people want to hear from me that. I've been saying constantly since the. beginning of interviews. So, it's more. to. more their perspective than it is my. perspective. I may think it's [ __ ].

Yeah. They might think it's a. masterpiece. So, no I'm serious. Yeah, no. I hear. you. >> you know. Most of us don't like. ourselves on you know, we don't like. ourselves up there that much, you know. But you know, the people the people do, I guess. Right? You can't help but that you're very that. everybody came to see you and you're. very popular. You can't help that. Not. your fault. Not your fault. >> [cheering]. >> You think it's your fault really that. you're like this? No, I don't think so. No, I think it's interesting. >> Yeah. It's me, too. Yeah. Yeah. I can. tell that you feel that way. If you If.

you had a If there was a time in your. life that you could go back to and had a. um. a documentary crew. uh that just in your own life like your. childhood or anything that you could. just have that footage, what would it. be? Would it be when I first met my. mentor, Cus D'Amato? I mean, first when. I met when I first. >> Like even the first day? No, when I. first got in trouble and I was in that. juvenile detention and I was doing stuff. there and then I started boxing and. started changing my life. Then I met. him. That's the part I wish could come. back. Yeah? I miss that.

What was it about it that. >> I don't know. I had somebody I loved and. they loved me. How'd you know that he loved you? Oh, [ __ ] Let me tell you. He um. If uh. If anybody say something to them. If anybody say something. No, it's okay. Look, if it's hard to. know. Sometimes it's hard to know. No, if. anybody say something negative about me, he would attack them. If anybody fight, he would attack.

So, he protected you? Yeah. Then why you have me talking about this. [ __ ] Then stop. Stop. Stop, [ __ ] Stop. Stop. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Stop. Shouldn't the bell Shouldn't we go back. to our corners for a minute? Um. No, I think it's just interesting like. there's times in your life where people. come along and they kind of like hold.

you up by the neck and like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like. that and. and give you a place to be. Everyone. needs a mentor in their life. Everybody. Even you got a bad mentor, that's better. than having no mentor. Mhm. What was it like. with Cus outside of the ring? What was. that like? Like what was that energy. like? Cuz their family adopted you or. no? >> Yeah. He did? >> Yeah. Did you have your own room? Well, I had to earn that. You did? You. had to earn it? >> to earn that, yeah. >> And how did you earn it? Like what was. that like, you mean? Um I had to do my. chores. I had to, you know, build get my.

grades up, you know, I'm getting my C. minuses. So, I'm getting I'm getting D's. now. I'm getting B's. I'm coming up. Teachers are writing nice letters back. at home about how I'm improving all that. crap. So, yeah, he loved that stuff. And was there stuff around the house. that you had to do? Like what kind of. chores? >> Oh, I I took I cleaned the dishes. I. took out the garbage. I mopped and sweep. the floor. Yeah, I did the whole thing, man. Like what was the different feeling. that you got there, I guess? >> Well, I felt that at home I had and that. was a structure I had doing my chores.

was me building my discipline up. After. every training time I I finished. training I had to mop and sweep the gym. Sweep and mop the gym. Even while the. big shot I'm [clears throat] being front. cover of Sports Illustrated. I'm taking. all the pictures. Boom. All day the. cameras, everybody looking at me. At the. end of the day, the broom and the mop. Yeah. Do the Do the gym. Amen. Whenever Cus cuz he passed away how how. long was he in your life for? Um.

since I was 12 till I was 19. And when your career grew, did you guys. did it put any like was it harder to be. close to him? Like did you get like so. kind of like busy that you that it was. tougher to You know, let me explain. something. He was like my father. He was. my adopted father, my legally adopted. father. I wasn't out of his sight much. Mhm. He didn't let me out of his sight much. He He watched who I hung out with. He. was my He was my everything. If anybody.

said something negative about me or. asked to he had to duck least I'm going. to punch. >> Yeah. He was just like that. And had you felt that you before in your. life you think or no? >> No, but never. If he told me to kill somebody I would. No, I'm telling that's how it was. That's how deep it was. He'd say kill. that but he's dead. Yeah, tight [ __ ]. man. People hey. people got to go. Yeah, no, but that's. the I'm just keeping it real. That's. real talk. That's real talk. So, the. connection was that it was just that. much? Yeah, he's cool.

After he passed away, did you try to. find like another cus- like Cus D'Amato. in your. >> else like him. But was there a part of. you that was looking for something like. that? >> Not like that. No, it doesn't exist. That part was filled in? Yeah. He He was. born only for me. He was what? He was. born only for me. Oh, you feel like he. was made for you. Aw, that's That's. awesome. And he probably felt that about you, I. bet. >> Well, I hope so. I hope so. Have you had the opportunity. to try and be that for somebody else in.

your life or like. do you feel like you have some of the. same like. like capabilities he that he had? It. takes a special person to be that type. of person, and we're all special in. different ways. I'm nowhere near the. person that he was. No, we're born from. two different structures and fibers. He's just a total disciplinarian and you. go hard He's just He He almost wants to. be perfect. He hardly makes any mistakes. around people. He won't do any He's just. wants to be right at every moment. You.

know, he puts himself in position to be. right. He's just. I could say megalomaniac, but he was. just a. disciplinarian person. Sometimes he'd go. a week without eating. He just It's hard. to have a sub eating for a week. Sometimes he'd what? I'm sorry. I'm. going to mute my I'm going. >> He just may start stop. He just may stop. eating for a week. He. Just stop. He just stop. Wait, he just. >> did the same [ __ ] You got to tell her. to stop. And Mike, she was flagging me to come. back. I wasn't really? She was. Oh,

that's some [ __ ]. I said I knew that, right? You see, I. knew that [ __ ] I knew that [ __ ] huh? Kiki, do you love me? She loves you. >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> That's what it's like. If you love. somebody, you got to keep them clean, you know? >> I hear you. Um can you say that last part though? He. was such a disciplinarian. Was he Was he. disciplined in his own life? Like did he. like Did he ever. >> the army. He was in World War II. >> Okay, so he was very he almost had an. institutionalized disciplinarian. Like. if I'm going to the school dance and.

it's like what, 3 miles away and the. taxi's a little late. I said, "The. taxi's going to be a little late. I. can't stay up for you. Run home now.". I went to girls went to wait for the cab. but I said, "Baby, you got to wait for. the cab. I got my shoes on. I'm running. home." Did you run 3 miles? I got to run. home, yeah. >> And in dress shoes probably from the. dance? I got to run. I got to run home. Get home now. Run. >> [laughter]. >> Quick quick quick quick quick quick. It's hard to keep a girl when you acting.

like that. >> I was I was too chill. I was extreme. It was hard to have a. girl. I was too extreme with training. What was your relationship like. Was it easy for you to relate to girls. when you were young, like to date and. that kind of stuff? >> It was Listen, it was all about fighting. It was all about fighting. Oh, so you. really set you weren't even trying to. date or anything as a as a youngster? Yeah, I dated kind of late in life, yeah, cuz I was I was I used to fall in.

love with fighting. I I talked to a girl I'm talking about. fighting. She talking about what? Yeah, they don't want to see you shadow. boxing, yeah. Cuz they want to hug. I mean, they like. the part when the ref tries to separate. >> No, no. They don't mind seeing me shadow. boxing but they wanted to talk deep. I. wanted to talk about fighting. >> You loved it that much? When you What. made you. >> it. I loved it. Why why was it such a. magnet for you, do you think, fighting? I think because when I was young and I.

watched some of the big time fights, I. think it was just the way the crowd. rooted for people's names. I wanted them. to root my name one day. Yeah. That's cool, huh? Did you feel. Like you Why did you Like it's it's. interesting some people had this feeling. they need they want somebody to. see them, right? Or Or they want to have. they want to have a say in the world. Like did you feel like you like were. missing part of that? Like, were you not. being seen or do you. >> No, I just when the custom owner told me. I'm the greatest fighter of the you. know, of my life.

I was I was 12. He told me that 12. And. you believed him? Yes. Cuz you trusted. him. Yes. Wow. That's pretty powerful that it would. just be able to that you'd be able to. envelop that that much. >> No, um. How can you pick a kid 12 years old. tell him you're the greatest fighter in. the world. You looking at him like he's. some old pervert guy trying to do. something. You know, I'm trying you. know, I'm really me. I'm a I'm a thief. I'm a crook. How am I some [ __ ] world. greatest fighter of all times? I thought.

this is some kind of trick the Jews the. the youth center they're trying to pull. on me. Oh, yeah, yeah, those youth. centers. So, um this guy turned out to be the. real deal and I turned out to be Mike I. am like whatever the [ __ ] people think I. am. Yeah, so he was the real deal. Do you think if you hadn't had like cuz. you know, I've I've heard you talk about. being scared as a kid and having like um. you know, your mother passed away when. you were young and um and we're not. talking about some of that. I'm just. saying things that I. >> You can talk about anything. Okay.

I Those are just some things that I know. about you, right? I don't know you, but. those are things that I know about you. You may think you know about me. You're. figuring out now. >> OKAY, LET'S SEE. OH! OH, all right. All right. All right. Thank you, Mike. Thank you for spending time with us um. and with me. Thank you. I didn't think I. was going to like you. You really good. brother. Really? Thanks, bro. I appreciate that. My wife told me, "Don't judge him. Don't. judge him." I was feeling all weird and. all that. I said, "Don't judge him.

Don't judge him." She's got a very uh. you could tell she's a very she's a. she's a good soul, your wife. >> Yeah, she did. She believed in you. >> [laughter]. >> Do you think that you if you'd have been. if you'd have had the things you needed. as a child, right? Like the things that. every child needs, right? Like the. >> I don't want that. Stay away from me. Keep that [ __ ] away from me. I like I like to suffer. You like the. way it went? >> to suffer. I don't want no good time. Right. >> Yeah. Oh, you like the discomfort.

>> Oh, yes. I like being I like being out. of me. You know, getting out of my comfort. zone. But if you'd have had the like if. you'd have had the stereotypical things. that people I would be a [ __ ]. Would you have been the heavyweight. champ of the world? No. Wow. >> The heavyweight [ __ ] of the world. >> [laughter]. >> I know. I'd be wearing slippers during. the day, probably. >> Yeah. I would be wearing I'd be wearing dang. slippers during the day. >> yeah. My mother would My mother would. baby me, wouldn't allow me to fight and.

all that stuff, dog. It wasn't meant for. me to have my mother. Did she baby you. as a kid? Like, what was she like? Um. she was a drunk. She was a prostitute, but um she was who she was. You know, my mom uh. My [snorts] mom had like an issue when I. was a kid, like she couldn't look at me. Uh-huh. Because Why? What's wrong with. you? I [laughter] know. I don't know. what he do. He know something that we. don't know. I don't know [ __ ] Uh. But something was wrong with her. She.

like she just couldn't. Like something that like when my mom was. growing up, like her dad like um would. make him would make them like put his. food under their under the door. He he. He would not talk to my mom for like for. months at a time, and he would go in and. out of their house through the window. >> Sounds like a mental illness. >> Yeah. Right. A mental illness, for sure. >> What they call him now? A mental. illness. Right right at the time, yeah. It was just like kind of a reverse. drive-thru. >> Yeah. dinner. I would have got a lawyer. to sue his dad, I swear.

But anyway, I'm just saying like there. was just like So, early on I realized I. got to take care of myself, right? Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself I made that. decision. Like, I I probably was a kid. for maybe 45 seconds, and since then I. was an adult. I don't care if I was 2. months old. Does that make any sense to. you? >> Exactly. You know, my my my my. my wife is kind of. Shamanistic, and she believes that we. ask for our parents. And then when I. started believing, I said, "If I didn't.

have the parents I had, I would never be. me." I feel she might got something. I. never tell her. I'm saying it now. I. feel she may have something there. I did. pick those parents. If I didn't have. those parents, I would be [ __ ] up. Yeah, she might be right. Like, what's a. nice memory that you have with your mom. that was like something you think about. that was like kind of like a moment that. you kind of cherish? It was one. Christmas day, and my birthday was on. Christmas. Your mother's birthday was on.

Christmas? I don't know how we got some. money. I believe it was just. a festival her and her friends. They had. food there, and then we was eating food, and we had never had that much food. before. And I don't know how they got the money. I know it was something skulduggerous, you see, but I'm sure. um Skulduggery? A little bit of. skulduggery? >> Yeah. So, I'm sure um. something that broke the law, but it was. just a great moment, you know. And. >> why all the cousins all cousins to the.

pimp, the criminals, the stick up guys, the robbers, all being over my mother's. house and stuff cuz that we were the. house of crime. I lived in a house of. crime. Where did you sleep? Did you have your. own room? No, come on. We all slept on. the floor on a blanket somewhere. The bed The bed was for the for the the. For the johns? For the johns, yeah, exactly. I was everything but the. tricks, but yeah, the john. The bed. belonged to We had a bed. Are you for. real? I don't know if my brother or. sisters heard me, they'd bring back.

memories to me. I bet. Trip. You slept on each other's backs. One. person had to lay down flat and the. other person got to sleep and then No, we didn't do that. We didn't sleep on. different parts of the floor, but you. know, you had the the. heat and you had the air conditioner and. you turn the big fan. Oh, dude, I remember our mom My mom. would only let it be 80° in the house, right? And I'm like, well, that And at. the time when I was a kid, I didn't know. that that's pretty warm, right? And so.

we would go get the cold water and we. would just put it all over the sheet and. then we would lay on it like that. Make. a little beach, go to Florida. >> [laughter]. >> Uh and then. >> was fun. It was. >> Listen, right? Poverty is just so beautiful sometimes. Uh If you can laugh at it, it's. hilarious. Oh, it is. We had some fun. >> Nothing more funny than poverty. Oh, dude, we It doesn't matter It doesn't.

care how rich or famous you get, it. still affects you. >> [laughter]. >> Look at how big you get. Remember this? It comes out. Remember this? >> [laughter]. >> Bro, I'll tell you something. This is a. little racial, but let's do it because. Go for it. We used to live like People would burn. their trash in the ditch, right? And so. me and my buddy William, we would get. out there and my buddy Larry and we. would get all wet and we would run and. jump through the smoke in the ditch. until we were pretty darkerish, right?

And then, bro, people would kind of wait until somebody. drove by and yelled the N-word at us. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, the N-word. I hate it when they say. [ __ ] Huh? They say [ __ ]. You know they say N-word and forbid they. [ __ ] All these mother They all these. people drove by called us [ __ ] Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Do you need me to say If you need I'm.

just I don't want to do something I. can't tell what's going on here to be. honest with you guys. I mean I'll jump through some. I need that you say one thing I'd be. ashamed. All right. Yeah. >> Say I'm a [ __ ] lover. You need me to say it? >> Yeah. Say I'm a [ __ ] lover. Go ahead, man. But does it mean all of them? Kind of a little bit. Even a rotten one. >> [laughter].

>> I don't know. I don't know if people. think I should do it or not. Do it. Do. it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Please. Please. Please. Please. Come on, man. Stop [ __ ] the show up, man. You're [ __ ] the show up, man. You're right, bro. Don't Yeah, [ __ ]. [ __ ] [ __ ] I'll just. What can I say, bro? I'm a [ __ ] lover, bro. God is great, brother. God is great. God. is great. >> [cheering]. >> Now, hold on.

No. Who is cheering for this? I love this show. I love this [ __ ] show. [ __ ] Are we. going to jail or not? Are we okay? >> [laughter]. >> Another knockout for Mike. Here comes the podcast. It's cuz he's got a new podcast. He's. trying to get me off the chart. That's.

why. Mike, people are going to be listening. He's scared and he's scared to say. [ __ ] lover. I don't know if if those are the. [laughter] same. Oh. He ain't a [ __ ] lover. That [ __ ]. [ __ ] the [ __ ]. I'm sorry. Forgive me, God. Hold on. I'm sorry. I mean I don't know. I've had. a little I don't you know, I don't A. little of what? Huh? You have a little I.

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uh the actor from Good Times, right? One. of the a great comedian. He's walking in. the airport, somebody starts yelling. "Dynamite!" at him. The police thought. it was like a. terrorist. >> Yeah, they didn't see him. Oh, they They just see a couple uh a. couple of [ __ ] yelling "Dynamite!". and they just jumped on them right and I. laughed. I didn't I could have helped. and told people what was going on but I. had a I was in a hurry. You know I had to get to Cincinnati. Yeah, good time. That was a good show. Do Janet Jackson was on there? Yes.

Did you ever get to meet Janet? Yes, I. have. I did have a chance to meet Janet. Jackson. And you someone said this is a. rumor that I heard that you and Michael. Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night. and had a party there. Is that true? This is not true at all. It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar. I'm joking. He didn't tell me that but. but we we knew if he did he'd lie about. it. He tells the truth by accident. Yeah.

>> [laughter]. >> I was going to say He tells the truth by. accident. Hey man, yeah, it is what it is, dude. But no, did you actually get to spend. time with Michael Jackson cuz he's such. a. >> Yeah. What was he like as a person? A. splendid, beautiful person. He'd behind all that stuff. He was a. beautiful, calm, humble person. And I. didn't like him for a long time cuz my. friend had called me. He said, "Hey. Mike, I'm over cuz one of Mike's. producers he said, "Hey man, I'm over. Mike's house and one thing led to that. [ __ ] that dude. He disrespected me. He.

did that. No, man, [ __ ] that dude. Michael Jackson said all that? I said. that. Okay. And then my friend went like this. He said, "Really? He asked for me to. call you." I said, "I'll be right. there.". What was he like? Was he just like a He. was very shy. He was very humble. He was. at the the end of his No, he was dealing. with that bad stuff. That child stuff. He was dealing with that. He was really. had no only was four people at the.

house, no friends, whole kind and it was. just him I got to know him. Ask about. Tupac. But. I'm I'm doing fine. Um. >> [laughter]. >> I love you, man. You're beautiful. Uh I. thought you was going to be some mullet, redneck. You're beautiful, girl. You're. beautiful. I'm doing all right. I just I. feel lucky to be here with you today, man. >> Beautiful. Um do you think Michael was. Would that he Do you think he was. involved in that kind of stuff when you. got to know him? Would you ever feel. that about him or no? >> I had a different opinion about him once. I got to know him. Yeah. >> Totally different opinion. Dude, I read.

somewhere Actually, I didn't read it out. loud online to you. One of my friends. told me that like he had some girls with. him and you was like in choir and he's. these your girlfriends and he said, "Get. your own bitches." to you. >> Oh, he did? Now, I'm not I'm saying that. >> to tell you what happened. >> Please do. I went to a Michael Jackson concert with. Don King. He had said, "Come come come. come clean and meet my babies." And we. go see Michael. I said, "He calling me. I want to see." So, I we walking to the. show. It's the last song. We walking to. the arena. We walk down the middle of. the aisle. He goes like this to Don.

King. Don King puts his hand up. I go. like this. And he puts his hand down. I. say to myself, "I know Michael Jackson. is this much." I said, "No, he don't. know. He is He's the big performer. He. can't be thinking about me. Of course. not me." So, I go in the back. I'm in. the back. This whole staff is just. loving me. Loving the the band guy gave. me a stick. Everybody going over me. Mike's at the corner chilling like this. with with the door open. I guess he's. waiting for a car. He's going to jump in. the car. And they waving all me. I say I. think let me go over there and say hi to. Mike, you know, because I want to go see.

with a good night. I go over there. Before I say anything, he goes, "Hey, where did I know you from?". This is the biggest moment in my life. I. just beat Mike. Excuse me. The whole. world's talking about nothing but me. He. looks at me, "Where did I know you from? You look familiar. Where did I know you. from?" I said, "Nowhere, Mr. Jackson. I'm just a fan." I said, "You. motherfucker." [laughter] I know that. was a good one. I [ __ ] I hate him ever since. I hated him ever since. If my friend. there didn't call me to come over the.

house and say Mike called you, I would. have never I would have been hating him. now. >> Wow. I couldn't believe he said that. I was. just a little He said that to me. You. think he was joking and he. >> Oh, he was dead serious. Wow. He was dead serious. You think he was. very competitive? He was. >> too competitive. He was not friendly. with nobody. Yeah. >> Especially not in the music business if. you don't bend the knee. You got to bend. the knee for Mike. Well, yeah, he didn't. even he wasn't friendly even with black. folks. He freaking ended up white. You got to be on You know what I'm.

saying? You got to have an issue if you. want. >> Hey, but listen, everybody is going that. route now. Seen a bunch of athletes and. singers go that route. Yeah. The black. turn white route. >> Yep, that's. Hey. Red rover, red rover, come on, you know. Send them over, brother. >> Fastest fastest. What if like and some of this is just. like lore stuff. What about Whitney. Houston? Did you ever get to meet her? I. knew Whitney very well. >> No way. >> Yeah, very well. Was she so cute? She came to.

visit me in prison. When I was in. prison, she came to visit me. She did? Yeah, one of my good friends. And when. was that? When you were in prison in New. York? Uh no, [ __ ] I'm up in. Indianapolis. It's close. I was just. checking to see if you remember where. you were in prison at. Yeah, yeah, I had a lot of Listen, um. I I had I had a lot of um really. interesting visitors. A lot of really. interesting people. Whitney came to. visit you. Did she sing for you or. anything like that or did she just come. and spend time? >> came and uh she brought her family. Her. and her family came and they hung out. with me.

Who else came to visit you? I don't know. Quite a few people. Yes, names and names and stuff. >> What about Michael Landon? He was dead, man. God. Was he dead? >> dead then. I don't see he had cancer. back then, too. Listen. Patrick Swayze. He was dead, too, I think. To what? Why. all the white people die in your. stories? I'm starting to notice this, Smiley. Hey, um. Florence Henderson came. No way. >> yes. But listen to this, she came to. visit me, but I'm locked in the hole. I. had to fight with one of the guards. So,

I'm not going to come out. If you come. out, they will have to come out chained. I said, "I'm not going to come out like. that. Fast and they forgive me. I didn't. want to do that.". >> Cuz you would have It would just You. didn't want her to see you like that. >> to see me in shackles and my feet all. like crap. It looks crazy. Yeah. What And when they put you into the. hole, so I know it was like 23 hours of. darkness, right? And then 1 hour of. light? Or vice versa, the other way? No, they. at least the light on all night. Oh, the. light's on all night? >> Light's on all night. Oh, that's good. I. mean, at least you can case you get up. or whatever, you can You get a [ __ ].

headache. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, 24 hours a day for like what? 10. weeks. Nah-uh. Yeah. [clears throat]. What starts to happen to somebody in. there? Like do does it Is it anything. helpful? Yeah. The peace of solitude is healthy. Very healthy, the solitude. And what's. >> of us most of us, believe it or not, not. able to be by ourselves for a long. period of time. You know, we haven't developed a. relationship with ourselves where we. adore ourselves. We can't stop up being.

a Stop being in our own presence. And I guess that's the way to be, constant happiness and love. Even though even though we go to the bad. [ __ ] make that beautiful, too. Yeah, I think um. I don't know. In my life, like. I feel like in my life, my whole life I. was waiting for somebody to show up, right? I don't even really exactly know. who it was. But then like recently, I'm realizing. that I think I'm just waiting for me to. show up. Does that make any sense to. you? I. >> I don't know what that has to do with my.

existence. And you got to get You know what I mean? That's your narrative. How does that guy. appear? How do you make that guy appear? Right. The first thing that I'm that I'm. learning for myself, and some of this is. pretty recent, is just like having some. integrity. Like, you know, if I say I'm. going to like Cuz if I say I'm going to. do something and I don't, I hear myself. do that, right? And so after a while, I. don't even believe myself. I think after. a while, I quit even listening to myself. cuz it's like. well, how many times am I going to lead. myself on, you know? Um I don't know if. that's exactly true, but I think that's.

the best answer I have for that. It's always the higher power. It's always the higher power cuz I'm. from the I'm from the um. the world um that you come from as well, you know, the recovery world. And it's a battle. It's a battle Some. guys sober for 20 years and all of a. sudden, boom, they took they go to drugs. and kill themselves. It's a constant. battle. You no one's ever a winner till. the end of the day, till the. over and with that, then you won. If you. ever do any drugs and you beat the. system that was killing you, you going.

to die, boom. But sometimes these guys. stop using drugs for 30 years and go. back. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? You just. can't believe it. So, you're never safe. Until you're. never safe. Yeah, no way to get out of. here alive unless they rehab. It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't. it? It's kind of funny as you get. >> get out of here alive. As you get older, one of the things that gets a little bit. exciting is dying because it's a new. adventure. I don't listen. Does that make sense? >> That makes too much sense. I find um.

death is another part of life we just. never experienced yet. You know, if life is good, how death. could be bad? Be honest. If God loves. us, how could death really be bad? If we. look at God the way we believe him to. be, how could death be bad if he created. it? If we didn't think it was final, then we how would we behave in this time. that we're here, you know? >> Well, listen, um. God prepares us. The universe prepares. us for death. You know, little by little, we lose our. friends, we lose people we care about,

we lose our hair, we lose our teeth, we. lose our life. It's It's nothing that. happens spontaneously, you know? It's. meant to be. Yeah, we lose our ability to be around. black people safely because I said the. N-word a year ago. Yeah. So, you know. what I mean? Black people love the You. ain't You ain't no [ __ ] lover. You not. [ __ ] hater. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, that's a good point, bro. Thanks for looking out for me. I hope that I hope that I'm able to. cancel you on this show cuz [ __ ] we. talked about [ __ ] Hey. [ __ ]. always got people cancelled. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, it never fails. A [ __ ] will get.

you. The word [ __ ] the word. Oh, it's great to see some equality at. last. Are you sometimes amazed like when you. look at your life how much grace God has. had in your life? I realized that um if you don't believe. in God, look at me. Cuz I should not be right here talking. to you. people. No, you probably did not, man. Listen. Listen now, really, when I'm in my 30s, I got um.

I said yes he did. God did a really. dirty trick. He He allowed me to live to. be 60. God damn. If I had knew I was. going to live to be 60, I'd have played. the game. Yes sir, no ma'am, yes sir. [laughter] Instead of [ __ ] you, suck my. dick. [ __ ] YOU. I would have bowed instead. You [ __ ]. >> [clears throat]. >> Oh. Imagine 60 years. Yes sir, how you. doing, man? You know. Oh, I'd walk right. up to heaven like this, bro. I'd have walked right into heaven, man. Sit at my table. Yeah, if I'd have been. Yeah, I think there's something about.

like when you feel like you're doing. everything yourself. Like did you feel. like that as a kid like everything I'll. I'll figure this out. I'll handle it. Like did you have that like chip on your. shoulder? Do you feel like. >> until when I had my mentor he told me. not to ever say anything negative about. myself. Really? >> But to say beautiful things about. myself. >> Cus D'Amato told you that? >> Yes. Yeah. And what did he tell you. exactly? Always say beautiful things. about myself and never say anything. negative about myself cuz my. subconscious don't know if I'm playing. or not. Mhm. It's pretty Isn't it wild how there's.

something. >> No, but I learned that at 12 years old. I had to learn that at 12 to be the. champion at 20. You know. If I learned it at 15, 16, hey, it probably wouldn't have worked. out. Then I'd have been champion 22. probably. Yeah. So everything worked out. for the right reason. What was one of the hardest walks. uh to the ring you ever had to make? All the walks are the same. Pretty much. You know, it becomes a routine.

Was there one that like. you didn't want it or it things had. changed or you were like I don't I don't. know. I've never been a fighter. >> I always wanted it because um every time. I got in the ring when I lost my life. changed into a good perspective for my. family. Right, you got you were providing for. your family for sure. >> Yeah, that's all I know how to do. When did you um when did you become an. adult? Excuse me? Well, that happened late in. life. That happened real late in life, man. I.

can't even tell you, man. I was probably. Who what? 45 or something? >> [laughter]. >> No, dude, I freaking wet the bed when I. was 27. That's That's mental illness. That's mental illness. Mental illness. Yeah. Yeah, it is. But they don't say that. They just call. you Mr. Drippy Drop or whatever. >> call you mental illness. Pissy Pissy. cool. Hey, you ain't cool with the. house. They call you Yeah, they call you.

little yellow boy. Uh. >> Hey, yellow boy. Um. But yeah, what What do you think made you start to. turn like finally like I I have to I got. to grow up or something something. happened and I'm I'm becoming an. >> Um cuz some guys took my pigeons and. bullied me and that was the first time I. fought back and it was like love at. first fight. I never stopped fighting. ever since. Some guys They He He took. and then he pulled ripped my bird's head. off. What?

>> Yeah, he was a dirty rotten kind of guy. back then. You remember him? Yeah. >> Who was he? Gary Flowers. [ __ ] him. Never forget his name. How could he do. it? He He was a young kid back then. robbing that being a bully. I was a. little fat kid that bullied me all the. time. Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that. was kind of like had some glandular. issues or whatever, I'm not going to. break a bird's neck. >> no, no, it's just um that's all about. humiliating people. >> Oh, it was like a humiliation thing. Right, I'm going to make you feel this.

way. Oh. Did you ever get him back? Oh, I. beat the dog [ __ ] out of him. >> [cheering]. >> I And that's the best thing that. happened cuz every day I fought I was to. fight three times a day. Couldn't stop. fighting. I loved it so much. >> And were you having trouble finding. people to fight? >> Oh, no, they used to bring people for me. to fight for money. Oh, really? Yeah. And uh and so who would get the money? The guy would say, "Listen, if you win, you get this much. If you lose, you get. this much.". >> Hm, so no matter what you made some.

money. >> some money. What's the first thing you. kind of bought when you got a little. money? I don't know, some weed and some. candy. Weed and candy, bro. That's what I'm talking about, bro. That. happens. The munchies ready for the. munchies and Now and Laters. You ever. eat Now and Laters? Dude, yeah, but they. make your teeth stick together. >> but it's good when you're high. Yeah, you're right. >> you don't mind. You know, you you have. to I know your teeth fit out within the. gum. You ever see that before? Your. teeth fit out in the Now and Your teeth. came Oh, the shape of your teeth are in.

the Yeah. Yeah, that [ __ ] was cool, bro. I like that [ __ ] man. I really like. that, man. You ever had some black. [ __ ]. >> [cheering]. >> Hey, I don't I'm just I'm just asking, guys. This is between me and him. Please. don't respond. I mean, I've had Yeah, I mean, during. the holidays one time I have I had a lot. of. That's true. I'm not talking about no.

Jewish girl with a great tan. I mean a. black girl. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, I'm talking about some real Yeah, some of that freaking Yeah. I'm just saying like I'm just trying to. think I Yes, I had some I had I've had a. little. I've had a little. I have had, Mike. I have, actually. >> And then you actually put halfway in and. then. >> [laughter]. >> you put it all the way in there. It. wasn't a little. You put it in a little. Oh, you put it in a lot.

Oh, it is a little when you put it in. It doesn't go in a lot. Oh. It's more the hokey pokey. Okay. You go in, she comes out. >> [laughter]. >> But I've had a little, man. I've had a little and I Yeah, I would. have I would I would get some more. I. would. Um yeah, I'd get some more sometime. You know What black woman do you dream. about [ __ ] though? What's the body. shape? Name somebody's body shape. Well, some black women you [ __ ] them and. they're they [ __ ] back, kind of, you. know?

They got that that vagina kind of it. it'll [ __ ] you back, you know? It's. almost like when you. The last hundred years ago that I [ __ ]. the waitress, she did that, too. She did. the same thing. But I almost tried to um I was screwing. with this black lady that worked at the. airport for a while, but they said move. along eventually. >> get tickets or you get flight Do you get. free flights? I did not get free. flights. >> free flights, well, I ain't messing with. it then. I ain't going to have I'm not. going to date no girl at the airport if. I'm not getting free flights, man. Yeah, you're right. [laughter].

You're right. I I I don't know. Look, man, maybe you'll set me up with a good. gal that you know. I don't know any good. girls, but I. I know a good time. I know people good. girls that give you a good time. Did you ever have like a cuz Hollywood's. people be people steal people's spouse. or girlfriend boyfriend? Did you ever. have somebody steal a girlfriend of. yours here? I'm sure I they did, but I just don't. know about it. >> Yeah. I feel bad, actually, cuz I was saying. that question, but I knew another. question I was going to ask. >> Ask me that. Somebody said that Brad. Pitt stole a girlfriend of yours one.

time. >> No, well, that's a interesting story. Yeah, all right. Uh. No, it's. still up for me, but. me and my wife were going through a. divorce when I hit her, but we were. still [ __ ] right? Okay. We were. always [ __ ] every night. We were. still [ __ ] Then we fight in the. paper, then we [ __ ] night. But one. day. I went over her house to [ __ ] her, she. wasn't home. Nobody And then driving up. the road with the BMW that I bought her, and she had some I thought it was some.

one of her. friend from head of the class, but it. wasn't one of her friend. It was some. [ __ ]. Brad Pitt trying to get some head. That's Uh-uh. Yeah, so uh. That honky was with her? Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> White [ __ ] Damn. Damn, [laughter]. bro. That honky was trying to slide, huh? That dirty dog. >> [laughter]. >> I love you, dog. The fact that we got to. call Brad Pitt a honky is [ __ ]. hilarious.

Ain't he beautiful, brother? But you. caught him in the driveway? Yeah, he was. beautiful. I was just I I figured that. um. >> Did you punk him a little? No. I guess I'll Yeah, he is Brad Pitt. At. least if you're if you're if your girl's. going to be with somebody, it's got if. it's Brad Pitt, that's you That's okay. I I. Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't know but he wasn't Brad Pitt. yet. Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet? >> know the [ __ ] he was. He was just Brad? Yeah. And she was driving and he didn't even.

have a car. Aw. That's some Brad [ __ ] Yeah. Brad never got a car, bro. Name seven Brads that have cars, bro. None of them bastards. Yeah. Aw. Have you been good at being in love, you. think, over your life? I've gotten so much trouble being in. love in my life. And the love is um. Love is so many entities, you know what. I mean? Love has been You gotten in so. much trouble?

No, I don't have trouble with love. I. have trouble with me. Love has nothing to do with it. Love has. trouble with you? No, it's me with the. trouble. I have no No, love has no beef. with me. Love's supposed to do what it. does. I'm supposed to do what I do. You know, and that's what we do. You think you're hard to love or not? >> Huh? You think you're hard to love? Um. I think that I'm a quiet taste.

I'm I'm I'm humble enough to know that I. could be replaced, but I'm confident to know that nobody in. the world is like me. Mhm. That's true, man. What's up, guys or ladies or fellows? I. don't even know. Who knows what? You. can't even tell who's got a weiner on. them these days, you know? You'll take a. chick's bra off and she got damn two. weiners on her chest. Who knows what's. going on? All I know is there's a lot of flat root.

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Tyson and being like um. this. when you when you become bigger than. you, how did that affect you like as a. person do you feel like? I know the truth that I'm never big I. don't never That's just a. some. form of imagination really being some. big star. I know who I am. I know. what I've accomplished in life, the. good, the bad, you know, but there's not. many people, you know, listen, I walk. with poverty and I fit with presidents,

you know, I just just it's not too many. things I haven't done in my life, you. know, so I just um. take my life day by day. I don't make. too many plans. Mhm. You know. I I met your wife now, Kiki. Yeah, very interesting person, huh? I'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice. lady. You can say she's very interesting. person. She is very interesting, I'm. sure. I don't know her well. She seems. very uh she's very kind eyes and she.

seems like she really cares about you. So, those are things that I noticed and. you guys have some beautiful children. I. saw some of one of them, I think is. here. Maybe two. Michael. Miguel He But But Miguel Miguel. Lo siento. And and Milan. And Milan. Yeah. Kiki seems to just have like uh she. wants to make sure that you're okay, right? Is there like uh what what's like. what's it like now with her with this. relationship? What's this marriage like?

I don't know. It's It's too perfect. We. need a little [ __ ] and everything. Yeah, we we're cool. We have a great. connection, you know. Um. >> [ __ ] every now and then. What's. something you really love about her? I just love her being a mother. She's a. awesome mother, awesome wife and an. all-around beautiful person. I really. hit the jackpot with this monkey. She's. a person. >> [cheering]. >> Where did you meet uh Kiki at? >> I knew her since she was like 19, 18.

Mhm. Yeah. Is she like a strong woman in. the household? Like what's that kind of. energy like? Like does she make you get up early or. anything? No, that's the whole thing. I don't have. to move. What's that? >> wife, I don't have to move. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have to move. She takes care of. me, everything. I got the real wife that, you know, cooks for me, bring my food to my plate. If I'm tired, she'll feed me. I I got it. going on. You got it going, huh? Yeah. That's nice. Um And then she's also she's also my my.

my pet and she's also my tiger, too. She's my defender. So, she has that in her, too. Mhm. No, you got to have somebody that has. that. >> Oh, you have so. There's nobody has some more fury than a. woman. And that's just in general. There's nobody that fights more fearful. than a woman. Oh, dude, they can make a. child. If you went out laid on her back. for 9 months, we couldn't make [ __ ]. >> No. No. They can listen, they they can.

they they can they can bleed 9 months. and leave you a little cut on her hand. and be in affection and die. You know? Women are special breed. Yeah, well, they're wizards. They're damn wizards. I'll say that. But they are also a great. breed. No, but that's the biggest that's. the biggest gift God could ever give us. is a woman. Yeah. The most precious gift. God could ever give us is a woman. >> [screaming]. >> Yeah, that's the truth. I agree. I agree, man.

Hey, this is our show. He mad. You heard the man. I think uh like fathering and fame would. seem like it's really hard for me, you. know? >> It's middle. How about your life? I. don't have any children yet. I'm still. >> Oh, God bless you, man. >> What? God bless you. Cuz this doesn't. work well with children. Well, I don't. want my I don't want things that I've. said or done to influence my children's. life or people to look at them a certain. way or have certain expectations out of. them. But I don't fear that that much. But your life has been at a. at an insane amount of that. Like, what.

was that did it make it hard for you? Like, what was it like fathering and. having your life? Like, and the fame. I. don't know. Um my kids have a great. life. And if they ever started. complaining, they should think about. they should have my father. Then they. would have a right to complain. They do. not have a right to complain. My kids go. to the best schools the world could. offer. They have the best. They have the best opportunities the. world could offer. It's up to them to. take advantage of it. Mhm.

W- Where was your father from? North Carolina. Oh, dude, no way. I'm. going to forget Wilmington this weekend. >> Charlotte, even Charlotte. Oh, Charlotte? Charlotte's okay. I don't I. I'm fine I've never been there. Is that. it? I'm fine with it. I will tell you this story. So, one time. I was in Charlotte, right? And I I. hadn't been there before. My friend and. I were sitting on a patio. We were just. getting something to eat. And I saw. somebody pushing a baby carriage out. there, right? [snorts]. And I thought and they were wearing like. a couple of different like.

like shawls or like rugs. Almost like a. bunch of like tapestries and stuff over. them and over the carriage. And I. thought it was a. like a homeless guy. Like almost like a. French homeless guy, right? Cuz he's. French? Well, just he was a very cold It. looked like Dude, it French? And North. Carolina? Well, just because of the the. the the the elegance of the shawls and. stuff. They seemed very Frenchish? Very. Frenchish. And. yeah. Frenchish. It was freaking Cam Newton pushing his.

newborn down the street. Are you serious? I swear that is a true. story. And that's the truth. It was him, dude. I'm keep looking. I'm. like, damn, they got the most beautiful. elegant homeless around here. They. really vibing. And then I'm like I saw people run up. and get photos and it was Cam, dude. He. just had a newborn child. And he was. taking it for a little little afternoon. stroll out there by the. McCormick and Schmick's out there. >> Do you have anybody you're in love with? Do I have anybody I'm in love with? >> Yeah. Uh.

I mean Can I ask you a crazy crazy. question? >> [cheering]. >> Nobody off the top of my head. You You. You not with a woman right now? No, I'm. not with a woman right now. You not. kicking it with no one right now? I. mean, I'm You know what I'm saying? I'm saying that yeah. >> are you? How old are you? I'm 46, dude. I'm an adult. You got to [ __ ] hear. You got that [ __ ] hair. Long as you. got that hair, you got the you got the. advantage of that [ __ ] Once the hair.

goes, gone. That hair is serious [ __ ]. advantage right there. It's the hair. It's all about the hair. If you'd had. hair, you think you'd have been you. think you'd have been even more. handsome? If I had hair, I wouldn't be. married. I'd be in lawsuits and all that. [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> I'd be in lawsuits. That's crazy, bro. Ah, that's the hair. is power. That's why. Yeah. They did. that about Samson cuz cuz really hair is. power. Well, that's what even when they. used to scalp people and stuff and take.

their hair, they was taking the you know. the name of taking the something they. took. That's why I grew my hair long. People they Hair represent power. That's. why they always trying to cut your hair. Boy, you look like a animal. Cut your. hair. Cut your hair. Keep your [ __ ]. hair. Yeah, [ __ ] I want to be an. animal. Yeah. Keep your [ __ ] hair. Cuz once you lose your hair, you go. always say God was in the back. Some. guys say, "Oh, it was in the way." No, it wasn't in the way, [ __ ] You. wish you had your hair back. It was the. only thing it was in the way of was in. the way you being a little [ __ ] That's. the only Think you run, huh? Let the. hair grow. Don't care how much it grow. Let it grow like that. Braid that [ __ ].

Let the people say, "Oh, you're an. animal. You can't get a job." You can't. get a job with a lot of hair now. Yeah, you can get a job at [ __ ] Target. You. can get a job as a mechanic's assistant. >> Anything. Anything. That makes more money than the average. person by far. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. Bro, you could just brush your. hair online and dudes will pay to watch. you do it. Yeah, listen. That online thing. it's either the the best thing a. pedophile could ever dream of or it's. just the biggest the biggest hit in the. world. One or the other. It's the worst,

bro. Do you think Have you seen times change, bro? Same. But like how bad like things. are not bad, but things have gotten so. much different. It's gotten away from. the most. >> Everything became. sexual. lately. And everybody everybody's. worried about who's sleeping with who. Everybody's worried about who genders. who and who's looks like this and it's. all about that now. Yes, it's Yes, it's. uh there used to be so much more. I. think I don't know. When you couldn't. record everything the moment was so. great but because then also if I needed.

to know a story, the only way I could. get it was from you or from somebody. that told it well and so that person had. like I don't know they had a entourage. but I mean there might be a dude in town. only all he did was tell one good story. or no. >> That's happened since the beginning of. life. Yeah, and now it's suddenly. different and now where people out here. losing their minds and [ __ ]. Killing themselves, hurting Killing. themselves, Mike. Dude, nobody killed themselves when I. was a kid. You know nobody was killing. themselves. If you were angry or. depressed, you just listened to heavy. metal and walked around town. Remember.

that? Yes. But man, that's you know it's. just it's interesting that people are. doing that now. Dude, we're sick though. There's not. There's something poisoning us. Do you agree with that? >> 100%. I. I know the government know what it is. >> Yeah, ain't telling. You know because death is profitable. You know, people cashing on your. insurance and all that [ __ ] Death is. very profitable. Even at the morgue, dude, my buddy freaking died. They put. They put new shoes on him, charged his.

family 300 bucks. I'm like, "Bitch, he's. wearing them for 50 minutes. Just get a rental." And they got a whole. fresh pair. That's crazy, man. But I agree there's. something the government knows, man. So. now people are going to have to rise up. Something's going to have to happen. Do. you believe that people have that in us. still or do you believe. >> I believe this. I believe there's some. people even there elite people they have. money and have the resources to live. longer, healthier. You know.

Imagine being 90 and living healthy. You. can still run. You can still [ __ ] You. can still do things with family. Jump. falls over. Exactly. Yeah, I feel you. Do you think that's. possible for some people right now and. they're hiding it from. >> absolutely right. Absolutely. Cuz the [ __ ] diet you use now all. this. meth all this all this [ __ ] [ __ ] dick. can't you just crazy. Yeah. Feel young. and that's all that's why I be going. fighting again doing next thing I feel. good.

Next thing they go ahead give you. something they kind of got now that. thing they sniffing that makes you. smarter. What is it? >> I don't know what it but no listen you. are laughing now but when they don't. laugh when it comes out you can say. Michael was talking about. >> you'll be hitting that [ __ ] and that. yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know if you if you get tooth by. you might have a [ __ ] brain collapse. right bust a. aneurysm or something [ __ ]. >> Oh I don't want to there's a lot of [ __ ]. I don't want to know. You the smarter I get I feel like the. more I hurt bro. No but listen um they got stuff check.

this out. Imagine somebody say I have something to. listen to that will make you laugh. 30 more years strong I'll make your dick. stay hard for 24 hours or something like. that. That's what people are working at. they. kinks are. Right. It will be sex it will. be alcohol they give you a shot there's. no more alcohol in your life no more. drugs in your life. It's all about the. it's going to be all about the needles. soon and pills. Oh.

The needles and pills. Did you were you. ever a needle user or not? Well I used a lot of needles yes I have. Yeah I used a lot of needles. Just cuz. that's a different barrier when you go. into drug use like I've used a lot of. stuff I never used no needles I've used. like steroids but I never used. like in you know shooting up like. whatever it's called. Heroin. Heroin yeah. Yeah I never used it. I now. I wish I would have smoked crack I will. say that. Ooh steroids and crack.

Really? You don't normally come back. That's really once you go crack. >> You don't come back. What was it did you ever get to smoke. it? I did once and listen oh no this this is. going to be crazy. Now, I'll got to you. this. Please do. So, one day, um you. know, I do my monthly checkup. I'm still. getting high. I'm going to get my checkup with my. probation officer. And he gets my probation officer, he gets my test of blood test. I'm even. thinking. And he comes back, I come.

back, he said, um. They um I think we just tested you for. um. crack, but I could tell a. What do we What do they call them? Um. >> What do you call a crackhead? Oh, a ah. Crap. A what? Tweaker? >> He tweaker. He said, "Yeah, but I got I. got I I had I had it in me." But he. said, "I know a tweaker. You're not a. tweaker. That's a false test.". I said, "Fuck.". He knew by sight? >> Yeah, he said, "I could tell a tweaker. He said, 'You're not a tweaker.'".

Because it was by accident. I didn't. know it was the crack. Oh, it was just. in there. Yeah, I took it but after I. tell him me. Mhm. I didn't know and the. the cop said that to me. He said, "Yeah, you got a false test, but I could tell a. tweaker. You're not a tweaker.". >> Amen. I glad thank you for telling me. that. Word, tweaker. >> Thank you to the tweaker guy. That's. good stuff. I said, "Fuck that they gave. me that shit." That's the thing, you. don't know what you would get. >> Exactly. If I didn't know it was. fentanyl, I'd be dead as a [ __ ]. You got out before fentanyl, thank god, huh? My wife would tell you, right? It. came on the news that Mike died from a.

from a drug overdose and this party. And. my wife thought I was dead. It was on. the news. And the other day, I come in. the house a couple hours later, my my my. wife screaming at me, cursed at me, all. [ __ ] I'm high. I. I used to live in the house and kept. running. It was a false story? Yeah, it. was on the news, too. My wife saw me and. hit me. I got I got to hide my face. I. laugh at her face. God, she was pissed. Even if he was. alive, she would have. >> She was pissed I was alive. Her her. mother. >> [laughter]. >> And her [ __ ] Her mother was pissed, too?

Yeah, I don't play that. Crying and. everything. They think I'm dead. They. checking morgues and [ __ ] and for. hospitals and uh then I walked in the. door high. I'm. I'm coked up high and drunk. I just left out and [ __ ] this [ __ ]. These [ __ ] they can't they. don't Yeah, they don't love me. Do you Yeah, do you remember those days where you. stayed up multiple days from doing. cocaine or not? Yeah.

Absolutely. So listen, I'm I'm I got to tell this. [ __ ] this story. So I can't give it. any sleep. I'm calling the person. My. nose hurt like a [ __ ]. Right as. my nose I'm so. and so I'm calling the person and I'm. saying my nose is hurt. I'm [ __ ] I. can't sleep. Been up for 4 days. My nose. is hurting like a scab on my nose. Said, "Your nose hurt?" Said, "You got the. coke?" I said, "Yeah." He said, "Hit it. Hit it." I took a hit. I said, "Wow, that's way better.".

I never knew I had to go all the way. over there. I should have took a hit. And numb it up cuz it got um it wasn't. numb anymore. It started bleeding. It. got sore. I. had to take another hit to numb it up. Oh. Those nights are the worst, huh? Oh, man. Uh the worst, bro. Did you ever have to. sneak into a hospital or did you have a. private doctor because how Yeah, we had. this situation. Oh god, listen. I go to. my doctor, right? Your doctor, hold on. Let's Let's say.

Let's get a round of applause for Mike's. doctor, bro. I go to my doctor, right? Then I go like. that. I said, "This is I'm a I'm a I'm a. lady still in my doctor and I'm going to. quit cocaine right now." And I'm and. he's checking me, right? He's giving me. you know, checking out. And he said, "How you doing?" I said, "Doctor, I'm. feeling bad. I need to quit." And he. said, "What?" I said, "I need to quit. coke." He said, "Really?" He said, "Did. you take a lot lately?" I said, "Yeah.". He said, "You have some on you?" I said, "Yeah." He said, "Can I have some?" I.

said, "Fuck. the doctor told me this is on my. children's life. And I'm like, [ __ ]. I'M TRYING TO GET HELP WITH THE I'm. talking to the doctor, but I got a. problem with it. You have some money. now? You think I have some? And then I. took it He. Was that Blue Cross Blue Shield? Who was. that? No, I go to I go to rehab now. Like they. put me in rehab. And I This is what I. do. The guy that the the the rehab staff. like comes up here and he tells me all. the rules. And then I try to be a good. guy, give him my coke and my bastard.

coke. You know what I mean? I was doing. coke before I came. You know, when I'm. in for your little rehab, you get really. high. >> Yeah. So, I gave him the coke. I really. wanted to get full. I gave him the coke, my last coke. I said, "Yeah, I got some. coke." He said, "Oh, you have some?". Then he went. And the next time I saw. him, he started acting funny. I I didn't. think he BETTER I TOOK MY COKE. >> [laughter]. >> CUZ THAT WAS some good coke. I wanted I. wanted to be a good person and give it. up. The [ __ ] took my coke. So, I. said, "Hey, man, you took my [ __ ]. coke. You got to stop letting me have. girls come over." He said, "Let me have. girls come over." I said,

>> After rehab? Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> My right hand on my children's life, man. Oh. You listen, I can't make [ __ ]. like this up. The rehab guy said, "You. got coke?" And I said he said, "I give. you some?" No, I don't want to get high. I don't want to get high. I'm going to. try to live clean. This [ __ ] go away. for a He comes back acting weird. I. said, "I know this [ __ ] that. took my coke.". I don't got mad cuz I said I kept that. [ __ ] then. Type [ __ ] Man, I got so. [ __ ] mad. Dude, I'll tell you this. freaking story. So, one time my friend.

we're getting out of a. Uber, he dropped some coke, right? And I. didn't know he did coke. And I didn't. know I did coke, right? I'm in there. >> [laughter]. >> So, I pick his coke up. I'd never seen. it before. I just saw this little bag. and it I registered pretty quick this is. probably cocaine, right? And so, we go inside. We're staying at. my buddy Kevin's house. We go inside and he starts saying, "Hey, will you help me look for something?". But he won't he won't tell me what it is. because he doesn't want me knowing that.

he's. >> want to give me that. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> That's what it is, bro. So, I keep sneaking off and doing the. coke cuz we're looking really hard, right? Bro, after like 2 hours, he goes to. sleep. I'm still looking for the [ __ ]. and doing it, bro. And I forgot what I was even looking. for, but I kept looking, bro, cuz that's. who I am. I'm committed. I'm that [ __ ] that will ride. with you, Mike. I got to tell you this. story about cocaine, okay? Okay. I'm in.

First, I'm in Jamaica, all right? And I leave Jamaica and hang out. Jamaica, hang out there. And I go to Cuba for It's very close. About half an hour. Did you get to meet. Fidel in Cuba or not? >> No, interesting though. Check this out. So, I'm in Cuba, all right? I'm hanging out. And so, guy meets me, "Hey, you're Mike Tyson, right?". Yeah. Yeah. And he like, "Cuba's small. You never there? You had any good Yeah, Mike, I lost somebody, yeah. You need a. girl." I said, "This is a possibility.

Yes, I do.". >> [laughter and clears throat]. >> "You're [ __ ] genius.". So, he. >> [laughter]. >> takes me No, listen. But, you got He. takes me around this It's nothing but. bricks and rocks and abandoned Look like. a bomb had a visit. Disgusting. And I'm. like I'm thinking this guy is setting me. up to get mugged or something here, right? And all of a sudden, this. beautiful girl She had raggedy clothes. She comes out of this [ __ ] crapped up. dilapidated building. Look like it got. hit by a bomb. Nobody lives in there. Just all abandoned [ __ ] And she comes.

out. I said, "What the fuck?" Wow. Yeah, but this is what I'm talking about. Castro. You know, the natives there were. unable to live They can't go in the. hotels there. The people that live in. the residence. >> Mhm. Cuz they don't want them here. talking to people that are visiting? I. don't know, but they're not allowed to. go in the hotel. The Castro allowed me. to take people to my hotel. They let me. do whatever I wanted to do a while. Yeah, he was really nice. And I what? I think I had a fight there. I threw. bottles. I didn't get arrested or. nothing. They didn't tell the people to.

leave me alone. Let me do what I want. Damn. Anybody else would have been. throwing bottles and stuff in Cuba, they. would have got [ __ ] up. They would. have been in the. >> [laughter]. >> They would have been in the hospital. Then they would have been in the. infirmary. Then they would have been in jail. What made you want to go to Russia? Because that was kind of like uh. like why you know what I'm saying? Like. that I don't even know. First of all, did they even at the time have. black people in Russia? Yes. Did they. really? Cuz they never put them on like.

the websites or anything. >> Russia. They No, they came to Russia. around 1909. Black people did? >> did. Yeah. You know, um. and they've been I met black Ukrainians. I met black Russians. It's really. amazing [ __ ] Yeah. >> Wow. Cuz you probably wouldn't even think. that would have happened, right? >> No, till they start talking. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Dude, that's cool. That's one cool thing. about traveling, sometimes, bro. Uh this. is a true thing. >> You might see somebody that looks like. you and then their mother might be black. and then father might be white or.

something like African or something. Where you just realize that like oh, there's so many people out there. Like. when I was in my little town, I thought. heaven was only going to be people in. our town, right? >> Listen. I think Let me tell you. something about Russian people and. Ukrainian people, right? Listen. No, yes. Um I'm in there, right? And so we got some call girls, supposedly call girls, right? Some call. girls? Yeah, supposedly call girls. They're ex-cute They're escort. They're. call girls. Yeah.

And listen, I'm saying to myself, I want. to talk to my friend in um Yugoslavia. She talks Yugoslavian. She calls them. there. I want to talk to a friend in. Spain and. China. She talks to the She they The. call man The call man call girl was. spoke speak about seven languages. Yeah. You know, a call girl in America can't. even speak English. >> [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? Can't speak no. home baby. You know what I mean? Call. girl speak seven languages. I'm trying. to think how can I get this girl from.

here to America? She got This girl be a. Fortune 500 company. >> [laughter]. >> I'm telling you. She speak eight. languages and stuff. Went to the best. schools. She's a call girl? Damn. I'm like, "Whoa." And women here, they. barely will even learn even one language. or even one and a half languages. >> They not even going to learn how to. cook. >> Yeah. Language, they don't know how to cook. Dude, some women can barely use even. emojis. I don't know how to use it either. >> Yeah, but still you shouldn't have to, dude.

You're Mike Tyson, man. >> No, I'm just saying women here have it. made. They have. >> Women here have it made. >> it made. The other countries, you can't. have a. You can't have a say in nothing. Yeah, I. guess Yeah, I guess I don't realize how. bad like women have it in many bad. places. Japan, you you see mostly women. in Japan living in Japan because they. killed their husband. No-uh. Majority of. them, yeah, they just can't stand the. abuse anymore or something. >> Oh. Damn. The Japan, can you imagine? Mm-mm. Because they're so peaceful a lot of. times. We had a Jap- Japanese uh.

substitute teacher. And. he didn't even say anything to us cuz he. didn't want to bother us. That's how. nice he was. We didn't learn anything. >> scary he was. >> Yeah, that's how scary he was. But we. didn't learn anything for 4 days because. he he he was he was he didn't even want. to bother us. >> [snorts]. >> Um. you fought in Japan against Was it Who. was it? >> I had two fights in Japan, two big. fights. I fought Douglas and someone. else. Tony Tubbs. Buster Douglas, that's. when you won the championship? >> the championship.

>> Oh, damn. Sorry. Nobody said I would. have I would have got that $40 million. >> got $40 million? 35, yeah. >> Wow. Same [ __ ] though. >> Yeah, that's I ain't broke. I'm I'm. rounded even. >> [laughter]. >> Dude, that's so wild, bro. But But. before that fight, you weren't Did you. Were you training as hard, or were you. just like living the life? I was living. the life, but um he fought a great. fight. Yeah. I think that he fought a. great fight. Dude, I remember we were like I was.

living in Charleston, South Carolina at. the time, and. somebody had bought the fight with like. a projector, and they projected it on. the side of like a building, and. everybody came downtown and watched it, dude. It was awesome, bro. It was a good time, man. It was like. uh when you fought, it was like it. brought everybody It was like watching. the Challenger blow up. Everybody showed. up, you know? The Challenger did blow up. Remember that? Everybody watched the. whole town in that whole day watched it. over and over again. That's like those guys that went in the. water with the submarine, and it.

combusted from inside. Boo! Yeah. He. took his son down. He took his son down. there. But they went down there in a. [ __ ] McNugget. You know that shit's. going to happen, dude. Bro, it said. Cutlass on the side of it. It was a. Delta 88. I'm like, you got in that. [ __ ]. They just like I don't want to I. shouldn't say that. They're good people. >> got They got They got smashed. They didn't even They didn't even feel. it. Woo! They didn't feel it. That's tight, boy. They didn't feel it. Cuz I hate even. getting in a small shirt. You ever put a. small shirt on and you can't even get. out of it?

>> I like being in a small shirt and I'm. popping out. If you're Mike Tyson. >> Hulk Hogan Yeah. Dude, I went to Hulk's funeral, man. Did. you really? >> Yeah. Tell me about that. It was pretty. special, man. Like Well, there was a lot. of things. It was like. >> at? Right outside of Tampa. Right outside of Tampa. And um. Well, one thing that was interesting, Jim McMahon was there, but nobody knew. he was there. And then at one point, he. came out uh. like uh Vincent McMahon Yeah. You ever met Jim McMahon? As his father.

No, Jim McMahon was a quarterback for. the Chicago Bears. Remember him? >> Oh, he's badass. >> Yeah, he was. Funny as laughing as hell. Yeah, he had that mullet, too. He showed. me his freaking butt hole one time in. in uh Palm Springs at a casino for no. reason. No, it was a reason. >> [laughter]. >> It was a reason. He figured you out. He figured you out. He's You know, that's like a quarterback. He's a great. quarterback, great perception. >> [laughter]. >> The quarterback perception. Ooh.

But look at this receiver. >> [laughter]. >> All right, that's crazy, dude. But. anyway, you're He had his butt hole. open. >> [laughter]. >> Tell me about him showing you that butt. hole. Tell me about that. How did that. appear? What What caused it? Well, nobody was expecting it. It was just. like a regular night and um Have you. ever hung out with him before? I'd never. met him before. And he was drinking. beers and he kept he was saving all the. cans. I think he was like He's like a um.

What's it called when you care about the. nature when you're like a um [ __ ]. That's my. >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ] Mike said. He was Let me say that he had a lawsuit. He saw his [ __ ] I saw it. It was. dark. I mean, but. >> Did McMahon you welcome to come on and. have a lawsuit? This man saw your. [ __ ]. >> What? Dude, why are you. He You said you saw the [ __ ] He may. think differently.

>> [laughter]. >> He may say that was a cheek, that wasn't. an [ __ ]. Mike is working in Now you're working. for a an attorney's office. I know. >> [laughter]. >> Was it a cheek or a [ __ ] I don't. know, man. Damn, you tricked me. I just said I. don't know. Well, I knew it was a little while ago. You're right, I'm not sure. It was. shadowy out, but I do remember we were. by the pool and it was night time. But. anyway, He had thrown him open up some. cheeks, right? Spread his cheeks. Right,

but everything in my just like mind, I. guess, thought that was an [ __ ]. thing. >> say? Come get it, guys? No. Come on, guys. No, he wasn't saying anything like that. He was telling a joke about a. his ex-girlfriend or something, and then. he said. and then he said the punchline, I don't. remember it, and then he just kind of. showed his. showed his butt hole at the end. The. running back he said, "Come right up in. this dude's running back for this show.". Uh who was the running back at the time?

Um it wasn't Payton, was it? No. Sayers? No, Sayers was earlier. >> old. Was it? Wow, was it really? In '85 Bears. was Payton? Right up in here, big. Payton. Walter, come on. Come on, Walter. Get over here, Walter. >> quite the [ __ ] huh? >> I didn't mean to see it. But yeah, anyway, let's move on. But. here's what I'm saying is, so Vince. McMahon comes out there. Nobody knew he. was at the funeral. And it was wild. because they had guys like had beef to.

him in the past. Yeah, well, I think. over the years they'd had a lot of. issues, right? But all a lot of my. favorite wrestlers were there and they. were kind of broken down, you know, some. were in wheelchairs and some were like. some were some people had urns of other. like. of guys who had passed on, they had. their ashes just they brought them. But Vince McMahon got up and he did like. he played Hulk's music and he did all. like a lot of his like things, you know? And then he made like a speech and then. he disappeared, but uh. But it was it was everything. It was.

like. you know, he was so much of my. childhood. He was like one of the first. person that I ever saw like in our. neighborhood like a lot of people didn't. have anything, but when wrestling came. on it felt like you had something. I. don't know why, right? >> It's like a soap opera for kids. Yeah. >> You know, we knew the story, they. double-teamed them, they cut them up, they couldn't sleep, they jumped them. over the rope. They [ __ ] yeah. Yeah, all of that. But it But anyway, so. that was like our hero. >> a soap opera, we knew it's a storyline. But we as kids we thought it we I think. you believe it's so real. >> 100%.

>> It was so good. So, that was like one of. our that was one of our heroes. So, to. go was just yeah, I don't know, it was. pretty special. And his son like gave a. speech. It was nice, man. It was just. And but it didn't feel like he passed. away because he's was he's so much. larger than life. >> talked to Hulk on the show? Yep. And. I'll tell you this, when when I met you. downstairs and I got to shake your hand, I was like, that's the. that's the strongest person I'd ever. like Could we give us like a mini hug? I. said, that's I walked out and said, "This is the strongest person I've ever. given a mini hug to." S- the second.

strongest was Hulk Hogan. Really? Yep. Hulk was massive. But he was a big star. He's just such a big star. You could. never imagine how big he was. Who was. like a hero to you like that like in the. in Um Bruno Sammartino. Bruno. Sammartino? He was my hero, my guy. Wow. He could beat everybody. He was champion. for 12 years. Yeah, he was He could beat. everybody. He was champion. Listen, I. was seven until I was like, what? Seven. shh till like 20 almost. Yeah.

>> Champion. He was a legend, man. I got to. interview one of the Von Erichs one. time, Kevin Von Erich. I don't know if. you remember They died in the floor. Yeah. Oh, I'm a listen, man. I'm a. historian. Don't play with me now. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ask me some questions. I'm a historian. Um. I have read actually that you like. studied a lot of like uh like you really. enjoy like philosophy like uh Tolstoy, um Alexander the Great. Um who were some. like famous warriors that you admire the. most kind of in history? >> Oh, all of them. Achilles, Alexander,

Hannibal. They were just El Cid. They. were just so many different concepts. You say, "Why do you want to do this?". Cuz you know why? Some of them want to. be God. They believe if I control all this world. if I control the world, I'm a God. And. they still at the end of the day. they realize they were nothing. You know? But can you even relate to that? Like. did you ever have a time in your life. where you were cuz our ego is one of the. scariest things, right?

You only play with the thought of it. It's not sincere, not real. Yeah. Only way you're a god is if you if you. live forever. You're immortal. But you know what? We have demigods now. Now we have we have authors that turn. people into gods. You know? >> Like what do you mean by that? Um some. people will never be forgotten. Napoleon, all these guys. To to know. your history, you have to know these. people. They're part of history. We We can't. know our history if we don't know these.

people. That's what makes them godly. Oh, only. if we know them. You will never get to know them unless. you read about them. They're only in. special places and know their identity. Did you like what was one of the. toughest time you ever had with your own. ego? Cuz like ego is just so scary, right? I don't know. My ego is. is so personal. You know? I don't know how to even consider I just. want to do better than before. I don't. think I have.

You know, I do think I'm Alexander the. Great sometimes. I don't know. Cuz like. I think I have And what are you talking. about? Like you do like you dressing up. in the bedroom or you doing little role. playing? I don't know. That ATG hat that says ATG. on it. >> No, it's just that the way I conduct. myself. He was a cancer, too, my. Alexander. And what his downfall was was. his moody. Who who. >> that that's where my moods control my. feelings. He's really moody. And that was his downfall. What helped you like have discipline?

Like you say say something like that you. notice about yourself. What helped you. create like some little disciplines like. that like that? >> um the best way to receive discipline is. to do what you hate to do, but to do it. like you love it. If you do that, that's. discipline. And is that something you really. practice? >> That's That's all I practiced my whole. life. Even now. Did you always love fighting or did you. hate fighting or No, I loved it. I loved. I loved the concept of fighting. I loved. the the fighters. I would feel I wanted.

the greatest fighters in the world to. know my name. I would I would, you know, I would be on my knees, kiss their. hands, kiss their feet. I loved them. I. worshipped them. I believed if they touched me, they had. they had some magic on me. So, I was. going to be around I carried their bags. for them. I gave them money when I. became a big-time fighter. I always gave. them money cuz they normally broken down. and had no money. Mhm. And they were. mostly dementia. So, I always gave them. money to care of them. Gave it and took. it away if they got that dementia, you. feel me? They'd run it right back, man.

>> But, um, I used to thought that. >> But, paying homage, you're saying. >> Yeah, I had to pay homage to the. fighters in the city. These guys I. wouldn't want to be who I am today. These guys inspired me to be a fighter. I didn't want to be nothing else. Even. though I saw that they turned out I. normally would turn out like these guys, nothing, begging. I still wanted to be a. fighter. I don't care. I didn't care. I. wanted to be in that kind of. I wanted to be in that fraternity. You That's so interesting to hear, yeah. And I I never think about that. It's. like, yeah, like. I didn't just. we didn't just come up with the idea of.

ourselves all by ourselves. Like there. was so much influence and people that. did something before us that like let. us, no matter what our job is or what. our thing is that we like to do in life. That's interesting, man. I forget about. that sometimes. Like, yeah, sometimes I. get. I don't get stuck there much, but. sometimes I'll be like oh, I'm like, yeah, I made me. You deal. Do you ever. think about who you are? How you really. got here? What you really consist of? Is there something more than you? Are we. going to see each other again at another.

time? Are we living in parallel lives? Is this right here going on somewhere. else in life? Mhm. We have so much. energy we don't even know about. ourselves. We know everything else, but. we don't about us. Oh, yeah, dude. I didn't like. most of my life I wasn't even. me. I was just I was just like some. survival mechanism that had started off. Does that make any sense to you? 100%. That's the first thing that happened. Self-preservation starts first.

And then once we get situated then we. try to figure everything else out. Yeah. Yeah, man. It took forever. Like it took. me probably 30 years just to exhale, you. know? I understand. I understand, brother. I. understand. >> And then it's scary because there's. times I thought, man, like. I don't even know if I wanted to be like. a funny guy. I might have to be wanted. somebody that worked at like a clothing. like a haberdasher or whatever or like a. singer. But I But I But that was the. first thing that I could get people to. like Get attention.

>> Yeah. I see you. And so I could like I. was just. There was I didn't have another choice. That formed everything I was, you know? I wanted to be seen so much. I was a. little baby and my mother and her friend. everybody was having fun drinking. I put. my finger in the drain and I put it in. my mouth. And I wanted them to I started. screaming and everybody grabbed me and. took me to the hospital. But I wanted. that attention at such a young age. Yeah. Oh, I love going to the hospital, dude, because They had good food back then, too. And they give you attention, bro. Yeah. Dude, they had a couple ladies.

would come in and care about you even a. gay dude. They slip in there every now. and then. But still, bro, that Jim McMahon. Love. is love, but I love you. Yeah, I see. you, bro. >> Love is love. I got a question, Mike. Did Did anybody ever. cuz I just got back from Lexington, right? Lexington, Kentucky and they they. have the the Derby race there and it's a. beautiful place. We just shot our. special for Netflix actually that's. coming out on like about 2 months. So. I'm excited about that. But did anybody. ever approach you to buy your semen?

And I mean that honestly. And I don't mean that in like a negative. word. >> [clears throat]. >> No, I mean I gave it away free. Why. would they want to buy it? Bro! Dude, we're giving our busted ass semen. away out here. You over there. Dang, bro. I'm free. What?

I had no idea they were selling they. were buying them. Dude, he I'd be a billionaire right now. You can still. Bro, long as you can still warm up a. batch, bro. You can sell it at the merch. stand over here. If I If I was single, I. would. Oh, look. I. That's true. He He might have an issue. with it. God, bro. I could get rid of a couple ounces for. you out back of this joint today, man. I'm happy with my life is now. Yeah.

What's What's a few things before we go. and like what's a few things that make. you uh that bring you some of the most. joy that you have today? And they can be. something small. It can be anything. Just my children don't have to live the. life that I lived. That's the only thing. that I feel I care about. >> Is it? That's all I care about. Yeah, is that something. >> And this might even make them strong, but I won't take the risk my children to. Wait, say that one more time for me. >> I said it might even make them strong, but it might kill them, too. Oh, they. have to go through the same stuff.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't want to take the chance. I. like the way they living now. Yeah. Well, you did it. Yeah, man. It was a. lot of help. A lot of help. A lot of. help. Yeah. Yeah, we don't do it alone. Excuse me. No. No way. No way. You realize real quick when you. have children, you need help. Yeah. You. need a lot of help. Um. Thank you so much for joining us today, Mike. I want to say that. >> got it. Um. >> [applause].

>> You have a one you have a one-man show. that's going to be try that's a live. show that your wife wrote. Is that. right? Yes, she did. Wow. And did she. have to get you to sign off? Did you all. do some teamwork or what was it? Sign. off for what matter that this is her. work and I don't get any money for it? What do you mean sign off? She's talking to you. Did she just like. say or was it like did you guys like how. do you put that together? Cuz it's. interesting that she would write it. Is. it just about. >> It's talk. It's talk. >> It's talk.

About dog [ __ ] you know, and it works. out well. Yeah. Um And you will love it when you hear. the mid the [ __ ] story. You got a good. one in it? >> Oh. And it's in the it's in the show? Oh, yeah. Save some of the Yeah, I want to You. know what? I'll come out to one. You got. to check this out, man. I'll come out. I'll even come on stage and just listen. to it. I'll put on something little for. you. Not for you for the just I'm going to. I'll just wear it. >> How do you spell little? How do you. spell little? How do you spell little? I. just I'll put on a small. >> wrong? You wear wrong. No,

>> [laughter]. >> no, bro. I'm just saying a small shirt. But you have that one-man show that's. going to be and that's going to be a. tour. We'll see. >> Okay. We'll see how much they pay me for. it. We'll see. And you have. and you have your documentary that's. coming out on Netflix. Yes, I do. You. do. Um. If uh You guys know every [ __ ] thing. about me. What the [ __ ]. >> know. We learned a lot tonight, dude.

Um if Cus if if Cus D'Amato could see. you now and see your whole life, right? If he could see your whole life, do you. know, and just get to spend some time. with you today. What. Do you think like what would be. something that you would like to like a. moment you would like to. see with him or or have him say? What do. you think it'd be something that he'd be. impressed by? I would say Cus. everybody in the world said I'm the best. ever. What do you think? >> [laughter]. >> What do we think, y'all?

You know what he would say? You know what Cus would say? You have to. hear this. >> What would he say, buddy? You didn't move your head enough. If. that guy was a little faster, he would. have hit you. >> [laughter]. >> Ah. If that guy was a little faster, he. would have hit you. >> Yeah. And that guy he said, "If he was a. little faster, he would have hit you. Had your head up.". Um man, thank you so much for sharing. your time with us today, Mike, for.

bringing your family here today, just. for the opportunity that we get to see. you. >> They all love you. I don't know who the. [ __ ] you are. My family knows who the. [ __ ] they love. My kids love you. They. know who the [ __ ]. you are. You know the truth, dude? I don't know. who the [ __ ] I am, either, bro. And. but hey, but I love you, man. >> Thank you so kindly, bro. >> the truth. And. and thank [cheering] you. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson.

>> [cheering]. >> Now I'm just floating on the breeze and. I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I. must [music] be. cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, [music] I'll share this piece of mind I. found. I can feel it. in my bones. [music and singing]. But it's going to take. a little.