Mid-Sized Animal Control Man | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #330

today's guest is a uh is an outdoorsman. and indoors many hell if the animals. have gotten indoors. and he is um he's well he's a mid-sized. animal control man and he can handle. anything from you know i'm going to go. on from mouse to bobcat style. that includes woodpecker flying squirrel. deer hornet beaver coyote. skunk bats and more. that's this man his company is titled.

hawk predator and wildlife control. he has been in the game for a while. since he was a child and animals were. bothering him. and now he bothers them he's the dog the. bounty hunter. of mid-sized animal. za animals ladies and gentlemen mr. marty voyers.

i'll sit and tell you my stories. [Applause]. if you're hunting um if you're hunting. like vermin do you need.

energy drink i drink a lot of coffee. do you i drink mountain dew dot mountain. dew okay yeah. i'm on a no card kick i've lost i went. from 260 down to. 238 two days ago so i'm trying to get. some weight back off. oh really yeah and what are you leaning. up for the hunt animal. oh just to i don't to get rid of that. oh see oh it's kind of hard to get. through a crawl space and through an. attic door if you're. big as hell every space the damn crawl. space when you're big i guess. um do we um is this i mean do you cut.

are you cussing out i don't know we can. say whatever you want okay yeah no. i don't want to no i appreciate it man i. don't want to say something i shouldn't. say. oh yeah the only things i don't say in. here usually are. i don't say i guess. i don't say the n word i don't say like. uh f-a-g-g-o-t i don't say that. and i don't say i don't say like a lot. of british curse words like c-u-n-t. i don't say that i don't say p-u-s-s-y. i don't say all right like lady i don't.

say stuff. i don't i don't okay yeah but anything. else is good. um or it's fine you know it's not good. but it is whatever you want it to be. i've watched some of your i've tried to. study some of your talk. well i don't know if that's good or not. man i mean all of it's a little bit. different you know i think. you know first of all i appreciate you. coming in how do you say your name so i. know what i'm saying marty. okay voyeurs voyeurs thank you this. is more than one peeping tom oh yeah.

voyeurs. you have a warrior or you have a voyeurs. oh yeah we had voyagers usually where. i'm from we had uh. i remember we had to if you wanted to if. you wanted to go out tom and her p. time and they called it you had to get a. ladder from a guy because. nobody around us had a ladder so we go. over there and say look wednesday. you know about 4 35 p.m we want that. ladder. you know and uh and we get out there and. peeping time and i actually. i enjoy i mean as a kid it was you know. what is that you're doing this. this i'm from louisiana louisiana okay.

so it reminded me of uh. we didn't have cable for a while so i. know you'd go over to some people's. house and it was like watching. it was like watching television almost. you know the windows even shaped like a. dang television. so i remember sitting out there and just. you know you know. the show isn't that good this is a. family eating damn you know tv dinners. and stuff but it was still. local programming i guess but that's. just a way to i mean i don't like to say. that my dad cringes when i do that but. for somebody didn't know how to. pronounce my name it's. warriors voyeurs it's french so there. you go yeah.

and now that's the only thing i just i. mean on the youth is i mean. i just don't like because some people. don't want to talk about i say oh yeah. if they're like are you going to. relocate them like well i'm going to. take care of them that's yeah no i i. make the customer feel good. well some animals you gotta have to you. relocate them to the lord. you know what i'm saying like that's how. i kind of see it you know some of them. it's. that's life you know well i mean look. it's an interesting job you have so. friend your name is french i guess and. the french are notorious. fur trappers aren't they is that true or. not i guess they're fur trappers there.

do you feel that in your genetics ever. well i'm a fur i'm out trap. oh you do oh yeah now i sent i sent them. guys a ton of picks i run a winter. trap line predator trap line this year i. ended up with 66 coyotes. and four bobcats and a lot of other. miscellaneous animals foxes. and raccoons but i do that every year in. the wintertime starting in november. to february 28th it's it's for i'm slow. my business is slow in the winter. and my farming is none in the winter.

just the fact of feeding cattle. and a fur trap and i go and that helps. my business and i do a lot in the winter. time i'll do it for free you know i tell. if you've got coyote problems i'll come. take care of your coyotes and i'll do it. for. free okay so when you're dealing with a. coyote. get take me through that process so. somebody calls you and says hey bucko we. got a coyote out here we got something. what's the usual complaint if they don't. know that it's a coyote that it's. getting their uh they have something. killing their calves okay.

which more than likely it's usually. something the calf dies and the coyote. is seen eating on it or tracks and he. gets to blame. oh damn but i mean they will they'll get. a newborn they'll get a calf like. al's having it like that she's. defenseless i didn't mean to. she's defenseless when it's coming out. of her uh-huh and they'll. sometimes they'll grab it then she can't. she can't. fight defend them and they'll eat that. after birth but they'll come after a. sick no nature they'll come after. something sick. you know if it's injured or sick they'll. come after it. but uh you know i get a lot of calls for.

that raid chicken houses chicken coops. or their ducks missing. oh yeah that's just like on that cartoon. remember that um. was in that cartoon where it was always. in the hen house i'm trying to think of. what it was that one with the big. rooster all right you know what i'm. talking about a little bit yeah the. the big had the little trick he had to. bit the i said. yeah yeah that guy had a little the. little yeah yeah yeah. you're running around a little little. itty bitty chicken these fellas right. here. yeah fall corn leg horns dude and.

falcorn lego and i think that's dutch. that name. but yeah he was in new uh yeah he always. had something right here. yeah with something breaking in so for. cayo so so. that's fascinating so we're talking to. mr voyeurs here and you deal with all. types of basically animalia that are. problems right. yes sir okay and so i want to get. immediately back into that coyote. question because that's just. so is it kind of crazy to think that. they'll attack during the birth huh.

yeah they'll they'll go after a cow or. an animal deer. cow they're having they're young they're. defenseless and they'll. they'll try to go after them the ending. cases um deer. the fawn that's one of their main. predators is coyote one of. the for the mortality rate for a baby. deer it's upon. his coyotes um they'll get the animals. when they're weak. sick and just kind of mother nature help. help them clean up. no they'll get one when it's sick sick. take it out. and do you see that as like it's almost.

like that's like mother nature doing or. do you feel like that that's like damn. it's kind of cheating or do you feel. like that's kind of just the way that. mother nature works. i mean you have something that's like. i'm not gonna make it through the winter. it's gonna starve to death mother. nature's taking out something to feed. the other and it's not going to suffer. it's it's mother nature. yeah but i mean it's sometimes mother. nature's cruel. she's very cruel sometimes but she is. she's really stepmother nature almost. yeah you know there you go i feel like. you know i mean. i love my stepmoms i got a great stamp.

mom so. yeah i mean i've got a great mother and. a great stepmom oh you do oh yeah oh you. oh your dad picked some good ones huh oh. yeah i love my parents they're the best. they raised me up good they're the best. so now did you were you into dealing. with animals at. a young age because if you're a real. animal man then you. i'm guessing you really got into animal. you're pretty young huh. my grandfather got me into trapping when. i grew up on grew up going over the farm. every weekend when i was a youngster and. he got me in a trap in groundhogs. getting rid of the groundhogs. and started trapping there and just.

worked my way up over the years and he. bought me my first traps at the feed. store and. it just worked up over time and what. kind of traps were those first traps. uh my first traps were one and a half um. leg holes. like foot traps bring that up sean. i want to see what that looks like so we. got an idea of it. so now tell me how this thing works here. how does this kind of trap work. uh [ __ ] it's a spring trap you when. you compress the sides of whichever one.

you're look we're looking at you can. press the sides of it and it's got a. latch at a pan. and when you get when you latch the pan. and then you'll cover it up by bed the. track you bed the trap down cover it up. sometimes i. make a bait hole sometimes i don't or. it's a walk-through set. and or if it's groundhog you know i. place it down in the in the den for the. groundhog when i don't use that method. in my business but growing up trapping. that's how i got rid of the groundhogs. and now why would you do uh so so when. you say bedding you put like a leaves. and stuff over some kind of camera.

and in essence i i bed to trap down to. where they don't see it okay kind of dig. out you kind of dig out a hole you. and you place the trap down covered up. to where they walk in they don't see it. but they step on it and they're going. after like if. it's a coyote or a predator i use a bait. hole which i'll. make a dig a little hole in the ground. and put a lure or commercial lure bait. in it so. the coyote's concentrating on that and. we'll dig it out. and then get the trap while he's working. the set going after the bait. okay so what kind of bait do you use for.

so for groundhog you won't use a bait. you'll kind of just wait for their. weight to hit it well i mean if you. loot now i don't in my younger when i. was a kid i'd use a leg hole trap but if. i'm at a customer's house. can't really use a a foothold trap in. somebody's front yard y'all i have a. we use a good cage as i use as a. comstock. uh cage a double door cage and i'll set. it. bet it and set it in front of the hole. and make a deposit to where when the. groundhog comes out he has to go in that. trap. he has no option but to go in there to.

get outside so that way. i can say i catch three groundhogs and. we don't catch anything for a week. i can say there's no more groundhogs in. that hole and then we can seal the hole. up. and we're done so this trap right here. this is a single door trap you said yes. sir. well it's double door single to orbit. comstock it's one of my favorite traps. one of the. most popular traps with the white. nuisance wildlife operator. so that's just pretty basic it looks. like it has like kind of this uh like. almost a teeter-totter door where once. you go through it it just closes back.

and you yeah. it's spring loaded door on it and it's. got the triggers in the middle so when. raccoon groundhog comes through he bit. he hits those triggers in the middle and. it's a spring-loaded door. and it's not like a tractor supply cage. trap it's spring loaded it goes down it. goes down. hard enough to worry if one gets caught. in it could kill it underneath of it it. could. it could get it wow okay and so what. animal honestly when you see an. animal that and you trap one which one. is seem like the happiest to get trapped. is there any that's like thank god for. getting me out of this thing oh no never.

very happy. really no um because someone i wonder. sometimes if there's animals out there. that are ready to be domesticated. they're just like please. god come and somebody take me out of. this damn. food chain you know because i'm sure for. some animals it is just. it's a it's a dirty world out there. probably the most laid-back creature. that we trap the dye trap is probably. opossum. wise i mean it'll you come up to it if. it's in a cage it'll be. curled up asleep usually playing possum. or if it's any. i'll have them get into my uh trap when.

i'm predator trapping though. and you can catch anything in these. traps no anything um. a possum's a scavenger them ground. buzzards what i call they. they'll eat anything dead or whatever on. the ground oh yeah forest shrimp they. call them sometimes. yeah and they'll i mean i've had them i. mean it sounds nasty. the dead cow i'll set sometimes around. it and i've seen them cut they'll go in. they'll eat their way inside of the cow. and how do they get in through like the. butt. really yeah through the through the rear. end yeah they eat their way right in i.

mean it's kind of gross but. damn when you deal with i mean when you. deal with the i mean do it it doesn't. really bother you but that's i raise. cattle too i've been around cattle all. my life that's. that's just part of mother nature when. you my the old way we did it you know. you dragged a cow to the holler and let. mother nature. consume it yeah get back give back to. her let her consume you. know now you should take it you know. really to the landfill but. we usually have a holler or dig a hole. with loader maybe. tractor loader and bury it cover it up.

wow but they're one. back to opossum when you get them. they're the most docile i mean. i can you can catch them i can pick them. up and hold them they're mainly. their main defense is they they snarl. which um. they show those teeth don't they yeah. it's a lot of them call them grinners. so right before you hit them right. before they get run over they grin real. big at you because that's their main. defense and they just grin and hiss at. you. to scare you away oh damn next girl. can't fight or dude. but they can't defend themselves anyway. and that's what and they are actually.

marsupial. marsupial they're i mean they're rather. cool they have the pouch like a kangaroo. i mean they're a really neat. animal wow so so uh uh they have. the pouch can you bring up that pouch. sean so they have the pouch it's uh. i didn't know that um that they had that. yeah yes sir. yep they carry their they carry their. young in the pouch and now can you. get like is there like uh do you know. how many they could fit in there. no i i mean i did litter probably five. or six about an average litter.

okay but i mean they they'll stay in. there whether so till they get so big. nate you know. it's obviously too big then they'll stay. with her right on her back like you got. the pictures. okay but they're i mean they're the mo. they're a pretty gentle creature. other than no raccoon not happy to see. you. coyote's not very happy even the. groundhog's not happy no really they'll. they'll chatter their teeth they'll grab. they'll bite their teeth at you dude. i know just like a little noise try to. scare you that's their defense that's. everything the skunk sprays uh.

raccoons just mean they'll just come. after you. now tell me this sir is the um. what is a vermin how do you get upgraded. to vermin. you know what i'm saying is they're like. a is there like a. you know some rural kind of courtroom or. like you're a damn vermin now buck. like do they if something causes enough. problems is it then a vermin when does. it go from pest to vermin to. when did it swamp thing or whatever. house when you know raccoons are. i mean they don't bother you in in.

nature you know you you see raccoons all. the time in the road or running around. they're not a pest until they make their. way in your house they get in your attic. to go through your soffit or chimney or. whatever and get into your attic your. house. have their babies um they. you know the feces everywhere uh. raccoons use a toy. use a toy they make they use the. bathroom like a cat in the same place. oh really so if you've got raccoons have. been in there for quite a while. you have quite a mess so if you see a. bunch of [ __ ] duty somewhere that's. really.

you that's a giveaway real science yeah. oh yeah new oh i'll open up i had. i've opened up attic doors and had it. dumped right on me before the doors. swing down and it's. you're always opening your duck like. real easy to make sure. there's not going to be because that's. usually you know the bat guano or. raccoon feast is going to be right there. on top attic door also. like a surprise party yeah oh yeah. definitely be surprised you get that. dumped out too not what you want to do. i had a bad attack me i was trying to. make out with a girl i was about 14 in. an addict. and uh and i don't know if this bat knew.

her or what but that thing like came. after me. boy i think it came out that might have. been. you know if her dad had passed and this. was it was a spirit. yeah or something yeah come back as a. damn bad boy. but this thing did not want me putting. my fangs in her neck that's for sure. you were just in his house you were. invading his area i probably was yeah. you know we wandered up into an attic of. a semi uh not abandoned house but a. house that hadn't even been built yet so. pre-abandonment um. now raccoons though get the they really.

i feel like kind of get the. they get looked at i feel like as mother. nature's kind of hit man a little bit. they really have come into their own as. being just. burglars you know like i think every. time you see them they look so. guilty they look like they they're they. call them a banter abandons they that. kind of a mask on them. i mean they when they see our houses or. your house they just see a tree. they see you know every you know the. neighborhoods and subdivisions are. tearing down more woods and more.

environment to. build the houses so they're running out. of places and they don't have really. their. main predators man wow and so they they. when they look at your house just like. any of these animals they just see a. they just see a big tree a funny looking. tree you know they can climb right up. the siding right up a down spout. and they'll find a way in and they'll. make they'll make your home their home. so they just see their how your house is. a tree really that's yeah i mean that's. what they see it is you know just. just a different type of structure they. want to be the.

the female raccoons they want to be up. high they want you know. if they're not like a cavity of a tree. it's where they know would be in the. nature. because they want it they want to be up. high so when they have their young. they're away from predators. they're away from things that could hurt. their babies one of their main. one their main concerns when they're. having their babies is male raccoons. another one of mother nature's things. is a male raccoon will search out to. female and kill those babies. to make her come into heat again which. is mother nature.

another cruel way of mother nature it's. it's just a cycle just it's just mother. nature. and so the mama raccoons or sow raccoons. that we come they'll they'll go. they get hide up in the attics and. that's they'll make their dens trying to. keep away from everything else. and the male raccoons so even there. could it even be the own male that. knocked them up. i mean it could be i don't know my god. dude. just sound like a damn john grisham i. mean it it's possible some of the.

one technique that we use um eviction. fluid. which is mainly raccoon piss and. you can take it i'm not a big fan of it. because i like to catch the raccoon and. remove it no i've removed it out of your. house. but you can take eviction fluid and put. around their entry hole and in the attic. and the female raccoon will think. there's a male present. and take her babies and shy down there. okay so you mean if you want to get her. out of that yeah some some places they. if you use like all humane you know no. trapping.

they can use eviction fluid and that. that some that can make the female think. there's a male present and she'll get. her babies and get out. but you still have there's a raccoon. there right it's going to go somewhere. else it's going to be somebody else's. problem. i mean i like to trap them and get rid. of it that way i can tell the customer. hey we got. i've got mama i got five kits out of. your attic and. sealed up and we're good to go then we. got yeah we got the problem solved. otherwise you just. once you put that piss down there you. they're just looking they're you just. you're scaring them off you don't know.

where you're scaring them to. yeah they haven't really solved the. problem they can they'll either leave or. they'll just go even deeper. you just carrying the one yeah you. haven't really solved the problem now. what about this uh. i want to get back a little bit to this. i mean it's almost like a. shakespeare story that the so the the. female. can have children have babies raccoon. can have babies and a man raccoon. will come and kill the babies while. they're being born.

well after she has after she has them. will the male raccoon eat them or just. kill them. he usually just kills them okay kill him. and then kill him just so the female. will go back in the heat so then he can. get laid basically. yeah i mean yeah you could put it that i. mean it's not the only all. a lot of animals do it uh lions you know. the they'll kill the cubs. you know the other animals like it'll. kill their offspring or. the offspring it just hurts me man to. make her to make him come back in the. heat so that's. it just hurts my feelings i mean that.

that's not i i don't come across it very. often but i mean. i've found it where i'll come do an. attic inspection. and just find a bloodbath you know just. a little young. i mean they'll catch i mean size of the. the popcan. and just be ripped open just no horrible. where the male raccoons come in and kill. them all. right i mean it happens you don't see it. very often which i don't see it very. often. it's like the people may it's like the. first forest eight kind of. yeah you know it's something like i said. mother nature's cool sometimes it's just.

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love with perks from grubhub grub. what you love now here's a question that. came in from some fellow right here. who's probably out of work. but also uh seemed like a decent fella. right here here we go. hey theo i'm noah coming at you from. london england. huge fan uh i've got a question for the. real life wildlife control man. which is a question that theo actually. brought up on one of the joe rogan. episodes was that. how are these raccoons not a bigger. problem i mean you.

you must deal with that you're on the. front line of this stuff so. tell us what's going on with these. raccoons. gang brother yeah yeah how are they not. a bigger problem it seems like they're. after sex you're saying they're doing. sex in the attic and they're. um you know they're willing to kill. children that get sex. and they're you know they're obviously. breaking into people's homes like. i see them in the recycling bin. constantly or i see music in the trash. and i'll see. you ever see that one weird raccoon. that's in the recycling bin it's like. what is he he's like he's reading in. there or something you know. but i'll see the ones that you know it's.

like you'll go out at night here's what. i find fascinating you'll go out to a. rat you'll drive to a neighborhood. in a peaceful regular looking. neighborhood everything seems normal. and it's only three or four trees in the. dang neighborhood it wouldn't. if if you if you asked everybody all day. is there any raccoons in this. neighborhood. people put zero on the form and you come. by at about dang. 12 40 i feel like or 11 15 p.m. and you'll see them in little groups of. three just cruising along man.

it's like they they can hide so i mean. they hide right before your damn eyes it. seems like. so how are they not a bigger problem and. what kind of problem are they these. raccoons and you can be honest with me i. mean they're. they're my raccoon my raccoons every. year. through my business it's getting bigger. and bigger yeah i mean more it's getting. to be more and more of a problem. i knew it like the more we build and go. into the. farmland we're taking out their habitat. they're like i said. the only natural real predator is man is.

a car. and disease which they get overcrowded. like anything they'll get disease will. get in them. distemper or they get rabies and they'll. kill some of them off. but they are i mean a lot of people have. them and don't know they have them. really you know you might you know if. you're in a house you might hear. something every once in a while and. they're like oh that's just. raccoon no big deal they don't come in. here and bother me in my living room. because i'll be in houses it'll in. addicts oh we just started hearing it. last week and it's obvious they've had. it for years. wow just some people just don't know it.

i mean they're sneaky. they're sometimes quiet you got the. insulation in your attic and. they don't make a whole lot of noise you. know or you overlook it as something. else or. just don't want to know what just don't. want to know what it is. and are they flame retardant raccoons. can they are they are flammable animals. you know what i'm saying like they. they're their skin is so thick it seems. like they wouldn't be. in an attic it just seemed like a good. place for fire you know or something. like that i mean.

they're actually they're very tough. creatures i've had um. i did had a one particular job this. spring early spring. or late winter and it took as a month. and three days before i caught four. raccoons have an attic. in a month and three days the final. raccoon came out. and what was he doing just hands up and. denying yeah they were juvenile. young raccoons last year's raccoons just. denning. and just they're trap shy and won't you. know. they won't they won't come out i mean in. the summertime it's not unusual to have.

a raccoon go. a week maybe two weeks in the summer and. an attic could be 140 degrees. i mean they're tough creatures stay in. there no food or water. no sometimes they can get water your air. conditioning will have condensation pan. they'll sip off that bastard they can. get a little bit of water off that snake. they're just so damn sneaky that's what. gets me you know they're just the damn. they're the real andy dew friends of the. damn animal kingdom. you know what i'm saying they're wild. man is there any animal as. sneaky as a raccoon i mean let's put the.

crown on the prince brother is there any. animal. as sneaky as a dang raccoon um. i gotta say bobcats there you go that's. i mean it's i don't get the calls no. for you know like they don't invade your. homes like a raccoon does but they're. they got to be pretty sneaky i mean i. would they're pretty sneaky um. rats i do a lot of rat work oh yeah they. can be a pretty sneaky so do i brother. they they're hard to get and they're. they're sometimes they're pretty big. challenge to get the rats they're pretty. sneaky they'll.

they don't like change and you know you. mess with them they'll change their. routes and. where they come in and they're a sneaky. animal they're all kind of sneaky. but those come to mind as being the most. sneaky to me. i mean do you look at it as a. competition when you wake up in the. morning do you kind of look at it as. like you. like i kind of wonder how you envision. your position in the world i mean. do you look at it as like you're. kind of like the like that your help.

that you're against the animals it's you. against them do you look at it as you're. just helping people. like just kind of what's the vibe that. you have to take on each day to really. get out there and. and solve some of these animal issues. that are in the world i love animals. oh you love them we i mean i love you. guys i love my work i love animals. you know i love working with them. getting to handle them we've got lots of. pets i mean i'm an animal lover. but i like helping people and. satisfaction. you know somebody's got somebody has a.

house and they have a large. colony of bats and when i can go in and. seal that house up and. evict those bats get rid of them and do. and clean up their attic. like it was brand new i mean that's. that's some satisfaction yeah i could. see that back and say hey. i took care of this i mean it's it's. different than saying like well. you know you sold a new album or you. sold a new car. or signed a new deal said yeah i got rid. of those bats yeah i mean it's. it's satisfactory it's kind of a. different and it's each his own. it's kind of a different satisfaction.

but i mean. it's very satisfying if i didn't love it. i wouldn't do it yeah i mean. i love them i love getting every morning. to something different it's something. new ever. it may be the same thing but it's. something. no raccoon job no bat job nothing is the. same it's always a little bit different. a little bit different scenario or what. how you have to set up on it or what. happens or. it's all a little bit there it's all a. challenge sometimes it's very. challenging. tell me about it take me on a call for. something where you.

like i just had a vision of you like. walking through the zoo just kind of. looking at the animals being like i. could do all of this you know. kind of that's kind of clint eastwood if. you would you know i mean we. um you ever we go through the cincinnati. zoo. a couple years back and i was you know. like that the raccoons or something i'm. like oh yeah like the river riders i'm. like yeah i've done. i like otter jobs you know those are. those are everybody seasoned with loving. crap i mean they are loving creatures. very neat and pretty but they'll uh.

come in if they can find your pond or. lake they'll wipe out your fish. no water oh yeah and so but they do the. tricks they do the tricks that make you. think they're being good. yeah they're cute but they're just there. for your fish oh i mean they're they're. you know they can be. that's what they're cute until they. start taking away. something and then they're a pest like. you said then they're cute. oh they're cute and cuddly then they. start until the tuna's gone in there. yeah. the tuna's gone and then they they gotta. go you know then they're then they're a. pass then the people don't like and they.

gotta go. now why does an otter look so cute you. think to us because they do those tricks. i've seen them do the tricks in the zoo. you know you get by the zoo cage or the. water zoo. and you'll see them do those tricks and. it makes me feel like oh man they're. yeah. they're lovely they're this and that but. you don't notice the two otters in the. back. beating the [ __ ] out of a carp you know. what i'm saying like you know what i'm. saying you don't notice the hit you know. what i'm saying you don't notice the. other side. of the uh of the aluminum you know i. mean. they look cute they're mercury yeah they. look so they groom themselves.

that does and when they do that you know. it looks cute oh look at you know if. he's. they're grooming themselves and they're. always where their hair they're oily to. where it helps them shed the water oh. yeah i think they just make them look so. cute. oh yeah they got this summer they look. like they got their hair dyed for the. summer they're ready to kind of you know. like they're going to the beach like. they're going to be in damn destiny. all summer i mean it's like a baby. raccoon i mean i handle lots of babies. and they're so cute and cuddly but they. grow up to be big raccoons. and then they can be very destructive. same way as a little baby groundhog's.

cute and cuddly looking. but they're gonna grow up to dig. underneath their house and you know dig. underneath your foundation cause it to. settle and crack. i mean they're all cut they're all cute. until they. destroy something and then they're a. pest i got it and then there's guys like. me that got to come in and take care of. them okay so now that's it so now we're. seeing kind of the evolution from. them just being an animal to them. becoming a past they become a pest when. they. are bothering you yeah when they're. bothering something. when they're causing some disruption in.

our world now. is it kind of weird because we're really. causing a disruption in their world. we're the one invading their territory. yeah like you buy a piece of land it's. like. you know it's not like you get to go to. the courthouse and nine groundhogs get. to show up and be like yeah what's the. deal i mean. you buy a farm they level it out and. build subdivisions those groundhogs are. still there. right and they're gonna come up to your. front porch under your bushes. up against your barn or your garage and. they're going to dig their holes. because you're in their world that's.

their area. and then that and then they're cute and. cuddly and not really a big harm when. they're out in nature other than the cow. or horse. you know stepping in a hole maybe. breaking their leg something or. you know something like that but then. when they invade your house. then they're a pest and then they got to. go most people don't ever encounter. something like that until they become at. best. right right yeah cause you don't notice. it really yeah they're neat oh look at. the groundhog in the neighbor's yard. over there. and then next summer when that groundhog. had babies and some of their babies come.

to your house. or grown start digging then it's not. cute anymore then they then they call us. it is interesting how animals go from. that there's that real fine line from. cute to pests didn't there yeah. is that real fine line baby raccoons. they're adorable i mean they're. well they're so cute my grandmother. didn't really like me and uh whenever. she. died or uh she was still alive but. we we didn't get along well but um the. lady i remember this lady told me one. time my grandma didn't like me this is.

her friend. her friend told me that and her friend. had a raccoon on him which told me. her friend kept a raccoon as a pet do. you see a lot of people. keeping animals and i remember thinking. well sh. oh yeah anyway i don't know i told you. that but i remember just thinking well. what now why did my grandmother even. have this lady as a friend who has a. damn raccoon why is this lady her friend. but she doesn't like me that's what i'm. thinking. okay but anyway um you see people. starting to take on. animals where it seems a little bit like.

it's more about them than it is about. the animal. you know it's a little bit more status. yeah there's something going on. sometimes they're trying to have a. little bootleg. ass noah's ark in their bathtub or. something have you run into some stuff. like that where somebody calls you is. like hey look buddy you know like. i had a small you know like i had a. small dream of doing a little bit of. doctor doolittle [ __ ] in the garage. and suddenly things have gotten out of. control had a couple. it mainly happens on like a rental. property where somebody's had a. pet raccoon okay so it starts with right.

so it's usually raccoons yeah. it's usually a raccoon sometimes. squirrels they know somebody finds a. young. raccoon oh yeah no kid something happens. they find a little young raccoon not. scared of humans and they take it and. they try to make it a pet which i mean. is what do they do. i don't know about tennessee's laws. because i'm not licensed here but. in in kentucky it's it's against the law. to keep to have a pet any. animal it's indigenous to the state deer. raccoon dirt no. okay so take me back home and let's. let's slow that down for me and for our.

listeners but so what does that mean any. animal that's indigenous well i mean. anything. any animal it's it's a common animal in. the state. no raccoon possum fox squirrel. you cannot have those as pets yeah. you're not allowed do you're not allowed. to keep the wildlife as a pet. even it's like rehabilitating even if. you think you're doing you're not. you're not supposed to not saying. they're going to come get you right but. but there's some laws i mean they do you. know i'm i'm i have some. conservation officer friends and they do. receive calls and complaints about. people. pet deer pet raccoons and you i mean.

they're still. a wild animal damn the raccoons they can. be. i mean you can have a raccoon and if you. if you google it. they'll they'll turn you know a raccoon. might be fine for a couple years. and then they've turned and attacked. children toddlers babies in their sleep. i mean they. they're still a wild animal just you. know so what usually like how do people. first let me get into. if people have a raccoon what do they. try to do to have it really be part of. their little life like i see sometimes. they'll put a little diaper on it or. they'll put a damn little.

uh necklace on it or something you see. them maybe get a little bit of a. you know i've seen one had a little even. somebody made it a little damn. amulet thing for its wrist you know i'm. saying like you see people really try. and. make them human in some way have you. come into somebody. ever you know if you had to go and if. you find something that's wearing a damn. you know uh. izzod shirt or something you know have. you ever found anything like that where. somebody's got a damn homemade outfit. you know got some. you know little baby uh birkenstocks on.

a damn uh. on a raccoon or anything like that no i. mean i've run across people with pet. raccoons. that's cool i mean they that's their. prerogative they got them dressed up or. not. no they i mean they'll have i've seen. them with collars on them you know. little decorative collars but not. dressed i mean if you put something on a. raccoon this is gonna pull it off. i mean they're they're pretty they're. pretty they're very smart animals. they're gonna pull it off i mean. i've seen people pet squirrels you get. them as a baby. i mean they're but they're still a wild. animal and do any so is there a is there. something you can do.

to keep it domesticated so it doesn't. turn wild again. i mean everything can turn i mean i. don't personally know i've known i've. raised a few deer up for a. spot a little bit of time as. i had one that we that would that got on. the job and i kept it for a while. and then it turned well i took it to the. rehabilitator. you know i get doe or a phone call baby. deer get abandoned. i mean like on a deer i'm we're getting. off the subject here. the the worst thing like people say i. found a baby deer.

is mama when she takes her when she has. her baby she'll place it away from her. to keep she keeps away from it as much. as she can not to put any scent on it. that way the predator won't find it so. when she beds the baby deer down. she'll put it down and she'll leave and. go away from him and she's just a couple. hundred yards away. but that way if something comes it don't. get her baby and people. oh here's an abandoned deer oh i'm gonna. help it i'm gonna say once you touch it. it's done she's not gonna take that. baby back that's got your human scent on. it and then they'll call they'll.

try to raise it themselves or they'll. call me or call a game warden. and then we take them you know i've kept. them for several weeks you know just. getting them back on their feet bottle. feeding them and then take them to a. rehabber. in which they're a licensed rehabber and. they raise them up they'll raise them up. to where they can survive on their own. and release them back in the wild. okay and they do that of all i mean they. do it with all animals. i mean baby raccoons we can take them to. a rehabber. and they can rate they'll bottle feed. them raise them up and release them back. into the wild. okay okay uh let's get a question that.

came in from. one of our uh listeners here we got a. lot of great listeners. on this podcast and real grateful for. that and uh here's a man right here that. had a question about something. decent man what up theo what up nick. what up animal police man i got a. question for you guys. what's hair what's harder to catch in. the streets one of these. young cats or one of them dog dogs out. there. it's harder to catch out on the streets. when you're working by the way theo.

thank you for that gang merch just came. in oh man. official that new addition. with the hit her in the front baby. people make a lot of bootleg merchandise. and sell it and that's bootleg brother. sorry that's unbelievably bootleg dear. god. uh so that's a good question man. that that is a that's a good question um. a lot of.

wildlife operators will not touch a cat. okay we. don't normally ever fourth in a canine. because you have dog pound. uh dog warden but there's no cat warden. oh okay and i i myself i do cat work i. do feral cat work. oh you do cat work oh you do wear some. cat work be honest you do cat work yeah. i do feral cat work. okay i'm just saying now hold on who's. feral cat. just a while not not a domesticated. domesticated it's just a cat that's. running wild. that you can't get close to um i'm sure.

if you drive around i mean. most towns and cities you're driving. you'll see cats running everywhere oh. yeah those are. just they just scavenge off whatever. they can find. you can't touch them they're just wild. oh dude i grew up in the stray animal. belt man we had cats everywhere we had. animals passing through town we had damn. parakeet i mean everything came through. town. groups of them you know i remember one. summer seen about 40 cats out there. well that's i mean you get a oh for. instance like a townhome. community and they'll go from one or two. cats and you know.

little old ladies feeding them she feels. sorry for him to 60 70 cats and they. attack her while she sleeps well. well a couple of female cats they get. bred they have kittens within you know. less than a year. those kittens will breed and then. another year those kittens from those. kittens will breed. so it's like this story you can go. really then you got all these cats that. are living they're going to get diseased. because there's so many of them. they get all over your cars crap all and. pee all around your bushes and stinks. and then but you can't get close to them.

so that's when they they get up you know. i'll do. fair i'm not going to turn down work i. try to help my community. you know sometimes it's hard you know. trying to find homes for them. some you know have to struggle sometimes. to find shelters that'll take the cat. and when you pick them up you put them. in the back seat or front seat where do. you put them in the back of the truck. oh really oh yeah i don't know a feral. cat can be very mean. because they i mean they'll they'll. reach right through that cage you know. if it's big enough they'll try to. reach through there a scratch from a cat. can.

get very i mean can get infected because. all all that dirt. and stuff on their nails when they. scratch you and you. some of them caught uh cats cats cat. scratch. fever yeah we should play that at the. library i i've had scratch been. scratched by cats trying to handle them. with my big gloves on. and they'll get real infected i mean. they'll get you got it that was a song. too. whose song was that bring that up. yeah play a little bit of that man. that's ted nugget. so when you hear this i bet this you. should play this this should be your. dang alarm.

when you wake up yeah huh but they can. i mean i i could go to a job like that. and maybe capture 30 cats. i mean no. with any wildlife you got to be careful. wear proper ppe. right you know when i full with the cats. i wear bike proof gloves that come up to. about my elbows that way they can't. scratch me i don't. you know i don't want to get full of. getting infected and have to nurse the. wound you know it's hard enough doing my. work anyway.

but we don't do any dogs no i just. that's getting too. i'll do cats you know if i do a cat job. you know it has to be a certain. you know just i won't like if you just. pissed at the neighbor's cat i'm not. gonna come do that oh i wouldn't do that. yeah i mean i. used to piss around my bed when i was. growing up though dude i'll tell you. this this is a true story. so growing up i was real scared right we. grew up in a pretty scary area. and uh i remember hearing when i was. young and i've talked about this a bunch. on this podcast but. i remember hearing when i was young if. if animals smell urine they won't come.

by. you know that's what i remember hearing. so i was so scared i would pee or i. would stand on my bed at night and pee. around it in like a semi circle. so that no animals came to get me. because i was so scared of like. huh yeah i never got attacked by. anything you know or anything uh. indoors but yeah it's just crazy to. think that as a kid you know that you. have uh. you know just that you hear stuff like. that and and how to heart you can take. it as a child. when you say that there's no dog um. police i start to see that there's. probably some jurisdiction issues do you.

ever run into jurisdiction issues where. the dog catcher. has got issues with you because you're. trying to. you know you're i don't do i don't do. any dogs and why not you can be honest. with me. i mean i just because it means. somebody's pet i mean there's not that. many so there's more emotion involved. in dogs i mean i'm just you're getting. too much even with the cats you know. i'll do a job and i'm like. you know this gonna be neighbors cats. yeah i can't know. usually a cat problem is it like a. shopping. or a restaurant you know the employees.

are getting bombarded by all these stray. cats that are around the dumpsters. oh i'll tell you stuff like that now i. don't go into you know. betty betty in the neighborhood's got a. cat and she wants you to get rid of it. because she's pissed at the neighbor in. a turcat now i mean it's too much legal. issue there and. bad publicity right now that's a good. point too that's why you don't want to. get in there i mean. a lot of my friends they won't touch a. cat job just for that fact. i'm picky about my i get a lot like. factories. uh power plants will get no cats will.

come in. people dump cats off they ride in your. vehicles up in the engine compartment. when it's cold. and then they multiply and they gotta go. i mean they're wasted you don't it's a. health risk. usually you drop them at the power plant. they're gonna go somehow yeah i'm saying. i feel like that's kind of. that you know a lot of people used to do. that they'd drop them off with the power. plant and let you know. and let you know let it happen you know. let it kind of work out that cat scratch. fever right there bro. but how about this so what i'm trying to. figure out is um.

so when it comes to the domestic animals. that's not really your line of work. no how did you get from your your. grandfather gives you the trap and. you're trapping stuff around the way. how do you then get into the echelon. where you stay in that vein for most. your youth and childhood. and uh and then you just get into it as. a profession when did that start. well i grew up hunting fish and trapping. my grandfather. taught me everything and then i get into. the. job world work couple jobs and then i.

worked for uh. my last one was for a rock mine close to. where i lit underground mine. and i still trapped you know honest you. know just little stuff. and somebody will call me hey i've got. groundhogs in my barn can you come get. rid of them. like yeah i could probably do that and i. come over and trap them they're like. well. here's 20 bucks or here's a six pack or. you know be nice no give me a little bit. of something oh yeah and. oh i've got this raccoon i heard your. you trap can you come get rid of it. then i started looking no i can make.

money at this. i could do this for real no i started. reaching out looking on. facebook find another wildlife guys. um one of them it taught me a lot of. stuff my mentor ronnie vincent which is. about. uh 150 miles away from me and. he kind of took me under told me how you. know get me started what. you know just kind of get tips where new. guys get into the business. and just evolve from there went from. trapping loving to trap this.

you got to be a trapper to do this you. just i mean you can't just go buy trash. you could go buy traps and do it but you. got to. know how to lure the animal in. what baits work best what areas they're. going to use to come. you know runways or travel away you got. to have a little bit of background in it. where it really helps. to to do that so it just evolved from. trapping as a kid. loving animals to wanting to change a. career. so i quit my other job as a minor. and was already farming so farming.

full-time and then i started my wildlife. business. and so um so ronnie was you kind of. worked as an apprentice in some way. under you know ronnie just giving you a. lot of guide. like if i had a problem i'd call it i. was on the phone with him every day. he knew what was going on and it's like. man i've got this hat what's the best. way. no i can i can catch a squirrel outside. somewhere what's the best way to catch. it on a house you know and i. got to you know i had to take i had to. study and take my tests through the. state fish and wildlife to be a nuisance. control operator and.

head to study guide and i bought a nukoa. which. is a an organization for the wildlife. operators. and some of their core online courses. and some of their books and literature. to just get more from animal trapping in. the wild to. adapt into your house okay right on the. difference from trapping a raccoon in. somebody's barn to. to making a positive set on a house and. it's in your soffit and you're. 25 30 feet off the ground with the trap.

upside down under the soffit will try to. screw it down and attach it to your. side of your house do you ever have to. like fingerprint or dust for prints or. do any kind of like. track like is there any detective type. style work you know. yeah um one thing that we use a lot now. is cameras. um i use a spy point cell cameras it. goes send the pictures through your cell. phone there's other ones uh. arlo cameras that do video and we use. that. i've got three going on jobs now i mean. we all use that to monitor.

um say uh are they coming and going here. so i'll put that camera up. and now it'll send an alert to my phone. i know when that raccoon. is coming and going and they're motion. sensing well yeah it's motion motion. sensitive. another trick that we use that i've used. um if i suspect something's coming and. going don't really know what it is i'll. take flour. yeah put some flour down on a piece of. cardboard and when they step through. that they'll leave their tracks. we do that we yeah we do that for santa. you know yeah i had to see a static come.

through yeah. and one time was my damn brother he'd. been drinking any damn came through. and he actually speaking of urinating on. stuff he urinated on something. um what type of animal has the most sex. out there i wonder when people think. there's a lot of animals you see a lot. of animals and. you'll see them with their children but. you don't hear about the sex a lot of. times. um is there a lot of animals where. animal the actual. mating becomes a problem for a homeowner. where. that is the issue a lot of times i mean.

i don't think that's really an issue i. mean i've never i've never had somebody. call and say well. these raccoons keep having sex can you. come get rid of them i've never really. yeah. had that i mean but i mean could you see. it happening possibly. well it's all in the cover of dark i. mean there are nocturnal animals they. only come out at night. and that's something they're probably. not going to do in your front yard for. you. but you know what like yeah yeah that's. true yeah. but i mean i guess would they get into. the house to mate i guess would do. people. well they'll be mating a raccoon will.

make they'll mate they won't go in the. house to mate. they made outdoors they'll mate. somewhere and you know when she comes in. the heat and she finds a suitor. and she accepts him and they mate and. then she'll seek out a den. place to have her babies which would be. your attic or under your house. okay yeah they don't they don't go in. your house to mate you know they're. gonna mate. she's going in her house to keep away. from that guy she don't want him back. she wants to keep away from him and. anything else that could hurt her babies. right it's like planned parenthood. almost a little bit kind of.

some you know or something you get a. pamphlet for there let's get another. question that came in right here what do. we have showing that really some people. are inquiring. man do you feel okay i want to make sure. you feel comfortable do you yeah okay. good i'm loving it now okay good you're. good. good man yeah no this is all really cool. information man uh. just little pieces of it are just so. fascinating it's just like. things you just wouldn't think about so. let's keep going what do we got here we. got a young fella right here who's got. an animal. what's up theo what's up animal wrangler. uh this is cody from arkansas. i was just calling to ask uh what is.

like the biggest injury. or anything that you've got from trying. to wrangle an animal. anyways uh thanks guys gang gang. yeah how violent is the game is it an. acl what happens out there is it carpal. tunnel what happens when you're dealing. with these animals my biggest injury is. i've had two ladders break on me that's. my biggest. injury wise it's put me in a hospital. for a little bit no not. nothing broke just i've had two ladders. fail when i go up and down. ladders i mean might be 30 times a day.

for me and i'm small time. you know and that and you're going to. have an end you're going to have. something happen. um actual animals uh. have one happened last summer for this. nice lady is a church parsonage. in area where i work at and had raccoons. coming in her house. then through the attic normal spots in. the soffit so i catch the right she. calls me hey you've got a raccoon so i. come over. and she's out back and she's uh. it's the personage i guess it would have.

been been the pastor's wife. or family and so i'm a talking to her. and she's asking me this question so i'm. telling her we're gonna put another trap. back up there ma'am and i have my sis. my assistant tim my one employee he was. already putting another trap back up. over the hole. and as i was talking to her i kind of. let my guard down i reached down and. grabbed the trap. i picked it up from the top i had it. sitting. horizontal up and straight up and down. and i grabbed the end of it and stuck my. finger. into the cage where for as long she.

where she could find it and she grabbed. a hold of me. and needless to say i let out pretty. good scream and a few words i shouldn't. have in front of them. felt kind of bad really bad apologize. for it i mean. bled all over everywhere i mean it was a. pretty good wound. but i mean it's that i have uh uh i've. been vaccinated for rabies oh you have. yeah. well now so so so in that instance you. had already a raccoon in the cage. and you just put your hand too close to. it well i i stuck my hand.

the so the cage is straight up and down. right and i'll put my hands through the. the end of it where the door. is there's nothing there so i'll just. put my fingers through the cage and pick. it up. right well i was talking to her and. looked away as i was reaching it. reaching for the cage and just wasn't. looking just. stupid mistakes stuck my fingers in. where she could get him she went right. after him. and didn't want to let go was to grab. and you know trying to get my finger in. me. they bare they rip their finger off i. mean really yeah they're pretty strong. you know i i've been [ __ ] hunting and.

i've talked to [ __ ] hunters before. we don't have [ __ ] kill a dog a big boar. [ __ ] kill a dog. they're a bad animal now are they i. don't you definitely don't want them. biting your finger. i mean it bit right through my finger. now i mean it was still pretty painful. you don't want that we don't want to do. it at the preacher's house yeah. that's the wrong place to well at least. look at least there they can pray for. you baby boy. she was sympathetic she understood it. because she went got me some water to. wash it off and she's really nice she. understood. let's see what that animal looks like i.

mean you can get him 25 30 pounds. wow oh look at him right there attacking. a hole gun. look at him fighting go back my god look. at them fighting. now now have you ever witnessed some. good animal fights and be honest there. i've seen i've had my dog i've been out. before my dog. get attacked by raccoon and they're. they're pretty i mean they're vicious. they won't let. a raccoon a bad raccoon will. instead of running he'll just lay up.

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it the fear of it what was going on. and then i get a text from somebody. maybe a year ago and they said rabies is. kind of making a comeback. have you heard of this yeah it's rabies. in. kentucky in my area of the state um. it's the it's gotten worse over the last. couple years. as in not i don't know of people cases. but animals. um getting tested and getting the rabies. at the. fox raccoon skunk.

and coyotes are all in the rabies vector. and we have to euthanize. those now because there's such a high. number of rabies cases with them. now you roll up on one of these right. one of these. you know something that's rabid how do. you know out of the gate. um i got a call last week from a car. dealership at home. hey we got this raccoon or excuse me. excuse me it's skunk. they're getting animals make that bill's. a skunk they say oh look if the skunk. gets its nails done it's almost a damn. raccoon i'll tell you that in the middle. of the parking lot.

at 12 o'clock in the afternoon and at. lunch time yeah. and it's walking around in circles it's. falling down. it's stumbling it's stomping which. what's that. something they do when they're. threatening they'll stomp their they'll. rear up and take their feet and stomp. the ground. it's basically like seeing like somebody. that's cracked out on drugs and it's. spraying it it's spraying some. it's spraying some scent oh yeah spray. it spraying its uh. essence which i call it it's skunk spray. and it's doing that. and i thought well it's it's it's. showing signs it's either got distemper.

or rabbit damn and so. i come out and i end up i just i put my. gloves on i brought a cage put a cage. down over next to it and i took some six. foot tongs which is. like just big grabbers and just kind of. forced it into the. pushed it into the trap shut the lid and. done deal. but that i mean you don't know if it's. right it's. it's showing signs of either being. distemper. or rabbit now a rabbit animal has to be.

euthanized or taken yes sir taking. control like they're ha there's you. can't. there's no cure for rabies i use i have. to. in my part of the state i have to. euthanize the skunks because. there's so many of them have been found. with rabies that if i capture one you. know one in the wild. is one thing but if i once i capture one. we have it. they want me to euthanize it right. because then it could really affect a. person at that point yeah i mean. it's it's not afraid of people it's. coming around your house. you don't want to let that one go so you. don't want to relocate it because.

it could have rabies it could have. another disease and then you would. transmit that to the rest of the. population. in that area yeah so i mean it's oh yeah. if it's out there stomping his feet in a. parking lot at noon i mean it'll be. washing your damn windows at [ __ ] 4. p.m. main street nocturnal animal a raccoon. you see a raccoon out in the. daytime something's wrong that's a big. sign now. so once you get that animal now to. euthanize you guys have you take it to a. certain place is it like kind of like a. bag and gas. kind of vibe or is it i mean we have the. state lets us do different.

types of euthanasia gas chambers and. most popular. which is the co and you know. it just pain you know puts them to sleep. oh yeah we used to have a carbon. monoxide leak over at my buddy. jeff's house dude and so his nobody knew. right this is in 94 or 5 baby you know. and uh and we just started smoking we. we didn't even know about doing huffing. gas you know and next thing you know man. we go over there we fall asleep on. friday wake up on sunday baby.

boy you know what i'm saying i mean dude. i woke up i felt damn nine months. old dude i felt so good man because he. had a gas leak in there you know so. every now and then a little bit isn't. it's not horrible but it's uh a lot of. failure. yeah a lot will kill you now if you have. so that's so that's a raccoon being. rabbit. well how do you know some of these other. animals are rabbits well i mean a. raccoon will act the same way. uh what what they'll like bill oh you. said it right we already said raccoon. what. are you talking about skunk oh that was.

a skunk yeah the skunks are what i. captured the parking lot oh. that was that that uh that it's showing. signs of being sick either this temper. or rabies you know you i treat i kind of. treat them all. like they got something just like in. in the fire in my em fire department. setting like on a wreck i. treat you treat everybody like they got. something that way you're always covered. you always wear ppe you always wear your. gloves you don't say well he don't have. it don't need him you. treat everything like it's got it so. whenever i handle the animals i always.

got my gloves on. you treat all of them like they would. have rabies just you don't so you don't. take the chance. um now. when you uh when you're going on these. house calls and stuff well. how about this what's the uh love life. like is it hard to meet a woman when. you're in the animal world do you ever. meet a woman on a call that you. ended up taking on a date sometimes i. couldn't imagine so i can't take too. many on dates oh you're married now huh. oh yeah i've been married for 23 years.

did you meet your wife through animals. no. no no no i met i met her. oddly enough cruising the parking lot. back in the good old days back in the. 90s. oh yeah we all used to cruise we got. crew sonic what they have. kmart oh damn really march yeah dude we. used to meet up at a michael they had. like michael's craft store. and we'd always meet up over by. michael's out in front of michael's on. like a. friday or saturday she don't like. telling it so i mean we met. cruz in a parking lot and it went from. told her i told her that night i was. going to marry her. and she just laughed at me and here we.

are been married 23 years and we were. together for about two years before that. so. and she she likes it she's not some of. my animals aren't her favorite. she doesn't like go on call she'll go. maybe with me to check a. trap she won't get out of the truck um. she. i'll tell you a quick little story she i. had a bunch of when we were allowed to. relocate still i relo we got a 500 acre. farm. okay and i would let now when you say. you're allowed to relocate just clarify. so i know what we're saying.

does that mean you're allowed to take. animals yeah like if i had some raccoons. i could relocate them on an approved. area they had to be. 100 plus acres and had to be landowners. permission and i could. release them and so that was something. that was allowed by the state by. my area for your job in your area it's. no longer allowed no now i don't know. certain animals or rabies vector animals. okay so i mean if i catch a groundhog i. can release it right i get your squirrel. i can release it but some animals you. cannot raccoons. i can't release them not anymore so. anyway so i had about six or seven. raccoons and i was letting.

i had my wife with me i said will you. video this and make a good video so i. said you video it and i'm gonna let him. go. and so she's oh here he is setting this. and i get the trap out and i set it down. and it. runs off and she's videoing oh it runs. off in the woods and i do two or three. like that. and then i get one up and i said this. one's for you baby i turn around let it. go. and it went right after went right next. to her feet scared her her death. screamed. that was the last time she went with me. when we let animals go. she was a little bit upset over that she.

just scared now my daughter be right. there i'll bring in kit raccoons and my. daughter you know. she'll play with them and hold them and. she's all into animals. but it's i liked letting them go. i mean that was the better alternative. yeah i had to do what they i had to do. what my. state requires me to do right so some of. it's not always good but. what's an animal in look you can also. you don't have to have you ever seen. somebody had an animal they're not. supposed to have. and you let it slide that's their. business that's their deal yeah i ca i. don't enforce.

i don't care what i mean i've been to. people's houses and. they've had pet deer and pet raccoons i. mean it's about something bigger than. that. i mean something bigger than that i'm. talking about have you ever seen. anything somebody got a damn. and you could just blink at me if you. have i mean. animals or other stuff animals or other. stuff well i've seen a lot of other. stuff oh yeah i have too many i've seen. full-fledged meth labs and oh hell yeah. you know i've. i mean i go into have you ever rescued a. rat or something out of the attic of a. meth lab. actually i did um in a in a town named.

the town. um i was doing a bat inspection on a. apartment complex it was uh low-income. housing department you're just a. government run look if i'm on math dude. i promise you. i definitely think there's bats around. baby let's go so. i go into this place and i'm looking um. he says well we got. they had a back call and so i'm certain. they had like 18 buildings two story. bins so i'm cert i'm going through the. attics of all it took all day long. to inspect all the attic so i go this. one house and i said like nobody's here.

in his apartment he said oh yeah we. hadn't got this cleared. to rent back out yet and i was like okay. and the. the guy the maintenance guy's downstairs. now i'm walking through the structure. and i get up to the attic and i get my. ladder open the door up i said. well what's up all the what's with the. white paint and all these little cards. hanging he said oh that's where they we. had a meth lab up here and they came in. decontaminated it. and they spray i don't i really don't. know it they paint they seal everything. up with type of paint. that if something's in the wood from.

that meth lab it seals it up to where. it can't harm anybody oh i see what. you're saying and so i go up and do this. adding it's all. like this just bright white in here and. he's got all these little. these little cards hanging is supposed. to detect any type of chemicals if. something's still lingering. interesting so and i was like okay it's. like a little paper almost of sorts yeah. it's just like a. it had just an indicator if it something. detected something it changed colors or. had a little gate meter on it. so that was a meth lab had been cleaned. up and that was a different one but i've. found full-fledged ones.

before i mean i go into million-dollar. homes and i go into places that ought to. be burnt to the ground. but i mean ever it's everybody's house. and if people's doing meth that's their. business. i'm not i'm there for them you know. people oh i'm sorry man out here let me. i'm like no i don't i mean i've seen you. name it i've seen it really. and i just you know you know when i go. into the house and i'm looking. for a bat yeah you know i'm not on in. your kitchen i'm going. underneath your bed right i'm going in. your closets i'm looking into places. that. usually people don't look in your house.

so you probably see some water. a lot of stuff yeah a lot of drug. paraphernalia a little bit of everything. yeah. let me use it you you see everything. some stuff you know they're like oh. they'll get. they'll be like oh my god here i'm sorry. i didn't know he's gonna look here and. i'm like dude i don't know i don't care. don't you ever see anybody hiding in. that person's house or something like. that no but i see where they've hid. stuff. you know stuff they don't want people to. know i go up in the attics and i find. you know you'll find stock's old nudie. books up and down years ago. old beer cans um uh.

sex toys oh yeah she knows hidden up in. that i mean everything over i mean. you do it long enough you find every i. mean i'm underneath the houses. i'm in the attics i'm crawling through. the closets looking for stuff. you're going to run into stuff you're in. the nooks and crannies baby and some of. it's kind of nasty. you know when you're in there i mean. do if i'm at a place doing a rat job. you know clean good houses and clean. places can get rats i mean they're there. for the food source but if you have a.

dirtier environment it's going to. attract. more bugs rats mice. and it just gets nastier have you been. in some places. that it gets pretty bad take you know. take me on a take me on a tail. oh i did a single wide trailer. several years ago way out in the country. rural setting. and the complaint was rats i said okay. and i. got my stuff so i'll come out do an. inspection and so i come out. and they got chickens chicken coop right.

in the backyard chickens running around. right next to the trailer. piles of crack corn feeding their. chickens. they got multiple dogs outside great big. bowls full of dog food. this could be my sister honestly so i. know where the rats are going to be. there oh you know already where they. going to be i know they're there because. of food source. okay right so all that crack corn dog. food crack they got to have a food. source got it. and so i go inside and as soon as i open. the door up i. seen a rat run through damn and so. here's this. man and woman in the house and had two. children.

an older child and a younger child and. it wasn't the cleanest of conditions but. i mean i can't judge. right i'm not there to judge how anybody. is you know. and i'm just there to do my job so i. talked to her and started investigating. it was so bad in one room. that i went in the room and there was a. um. the my generation know you may when you. used to take top off a soup lid. so you take the ca now they're just. peeling up you pull the paint just top. off yeah you had to cut the top off.

when i said why are there soup lids. nailed all around the walls on the base. at the baseboard oh that's where the. rats chew through and each time they. chew a new hole. we nail a soup can lid over top that. so i knew that's gonna be a bad job i. mean it was. such a bad infestation that i'd catch a. rat. and it would get eaten before i got. there. like it she get up in the morning and. check all the traps and say okay we got. some rats. and so i'd schedule it to come over.

there when i would get there i found. just like the back legs. left bones the rats are they'll. cannibalize each other. now will they only cannibalize each. other once they've been caught so they. don't like give any information well the. other one's not gonna sit still long. enough. unless it dies but what i'm saying is. like um. do the rats realize okay you know henry. or whatever. got caught we gotta kill him so he. doesn't tell anybody else wait so. of course he's already dead or here here. henry he's food we're gonna eat him now. so i don't know they i mean it like i.

said mother nature's cruel. once again you know it's cannibalize. each other the rats but i mean it's. and they're there for the food source. and left uncontrolled they'll get in. your walls and ceilings and. you know i think we end up catching 30. 40 rats out of there and got rid of all. of them. now have you ever had anybody i'll tell. you this i was at this is in new york. city i'm in new york city. and i met a man from iowa who used to. his friend sold the penis.

he sold raccoon penis. necklaces this is what the man told me. right in the street. and i thought that first man was crazy. and then i got his phone number you know. because it sounded interesting and i. haven't looked at my phone in years but. i bet it's in there and. is that a dude have you ever had anybody. call you and say hey you know. uh mr voyage will you help me collect. some of that you know i'm trying to do. something or i'm going into a business. you know rabbits feed or something when. you help me collect. an item along the way i could have. brought something for you i got a whole.

box of. [ __ ] penises yeah i save them every time. when. i don't the the fur value so bad now the. markets just. kneel and how much fur is on the raccoon. penis well i mean for the diamond. the animal the like for the like in the. winter time like if i kept for fur. trapping i catch a raccoon. and i'll ski i'll skin it out and keep. the fur. and sell it in an auction fur auction oh. okay this is this getting outside. the wildlife bit this is a trap back to. the just trapping part. and you would you scan it out dried out.

and sell it at auction where they used. to back in the 70s you might have got 30. 40. for a a raccoon belt now you this the. pelt. yeah just the pelt now you might the. last year's auction i went to. they were 50 cents up to five dollars. damn yeah so that's. that's not worth my i won't i don't. spend the time to do it right i don't i. don't go out. and specifically trap for them but when. i. do it and when i do if i catch one i'll. take it back skin it out.

and if it's a boar i'll keep i'll keep. the pecker i mean they're. they're worried i mean you can there's. guys that buy them they make toothpicks. out of them. really yep they have to make toothpicks. out of them can you pull up a picture of. that sean. raccoon penis toothpick and so is it how. much bone is on that penis brother. be honest i like a pencil i mean you'll. wow name so it's. it's i could have brought what you. should have i wish we talked about that. i brought you one. so that's raccoon penis right there damn. it's hardy yep. [ __ ] dick toothpick damn that baculum.

brother. that's i mean they're about you can sell. about every part of the animal and the. skulls were. you know in that the guys that do it the. skulls were something. the glands are worth something that you. know. actually some places i thought i think. louisiana thought they sell raccoon meat. a lot of people eat raccoons i mean i. haven't had it i've never tried i've. eaten groundhog i've eaten. uh bobcat bike straps but i've never. tried a raccoon. how's bobcat i've had pelican and i've.

had dove. well they're i mean the buy it just. tastes like meat i mean you could. i mean i know guys in trapping groups. i'm on facebook they've tried a. coyote backstrap wow but i mean a bike. strap's a box i mean it's all meat once. you get the hide off of it. but to each their own we tried bobcat. just for the hay we tried it. but that was something i wouldn't eat we. eat every day. uh my grandparents i used to hear my. grandparents talk about eating. groundhogs all the time oh get that. young groundhog oh eat that now i've.

actually had groundhog years ago. it's all right but i know i've eaten um. beaver. but the the animal. i got you yeah before we go anywhere no. i feel yeah. and it's a good dark red meat it's it's. really good you make beaver stew. yeah it's a really good meat out of. anything it that you would trap. outside i mean we do nuisance trapping. for beavers too okay but in the win. you know in uh fur trapping well no i. like beaver trapping. it's a good meat it's a dark it's a good.

red meat it's a really good meat. i haven't had that i'm sure and i'm sure. i could probably get into it in this. area. you know uh because i spent about half. the year out here now it looks like. i'm sure i'll be able to get into you. know just more option for that meat. you know the further west you get they. they don't want you having any meat. i mean you can't go to the grocery store. and buy but you can buy it out at you. know. i'm sure select places or track no it's. i mean it's not usda inspected stuff. no dude i don't want it to be you know i. mean it's good yeah. i want that bootleg stuff i want the guy.

who's got a cooler on this on his. on his passenger seat lake bieber. there you go i've had some brother. that's for sure um. so tell me about this though when you. get uh the. the bone of the raccoon the penis. do they um have anybody ever made like a. thing of necklaces or. i'm sure they have okay i mean i haven't. i mean but. i'm sure i'm sure there are people out. there have. it's amazing they have that much penis. on them they make a lot of teeth like.

coyote teeth they'll make necklaces out. of them. bare teeth yeah i mean there's there's a. necklace out of one. yeah it's beautiful god it's beautiful. and once you polish it and clean it up. it's just. bone yeah just knowing where it come. from or what it is. i mean if i laid that out there you. would never know what it was i mean. unless you've studied that or looked at. it you'd never know what that was. oh hell not a stir dude i don't get on. ebay and buy them. oh i'd stir preserves with that thing. bro that wouldn't yeah you can get right. in there you can buy. i mean you can look on ebay and buy [ __ ].

packers. what's the largest uh. what is the largest uh animal penis. you've seen that's out there. and i won't tell anybody okay. i mean probably a coyote wow we don't. skin them i mean i don't. take those out but when you skin them. you got a skin around it. i mean it's it's bigger than the raccoon. the bone part is bigger than the raccoon. so some animals have bone in their penis. huh but we don't have it.

i mean it's the animals the i don't know. what all animals i'm not that. and here you go right here now let's. zoom in on that brother yeah there's the. coyote let's go down this penis bone. chart and just let's get a look at it. here. let me see what we got here damn now. otter's got that heater on him huh. otter's got that dang rudder yeah. wow badger got that interesting piece on. him. that red fox don't have much on him dude. r.i.p or the weasel.

yeah that weasel ain't got nothing boy. i'll tell you look i'll be real honest. about where i am on this chart i'm. probably about a badger. i'm i'm in between badger and otter. i'm not gonna say don't comment okay. okay no worries man no worries. i'm just trying to be you know uh you. know oh maybe i'm a little more badger. okay i'll be honest with you bro. i'm a little more bad um we got another. question that came in from one of our. listeners man we had so many questions. that came in for you um.

we won't get to all of them but some of. them we we do have here. yo tvw hi how's everyone doing. my name is pk originally from east. africa i've got two questions. for the world life control fella. um the first one is have you been on a. call where. somebody decided to keep. a wild animal as a pet and then change. their mind. something like a monkey or maybe. something crazier. uh and if so what what was that.

experience like. my second question is um what are your. thoughts on. people keeping um birds as. as pets you know things like pirates um. yeah what do you think about that my. stepdad his first wife she was really. uh i don't know what was wrong with her. but she had countless birds and then he. left her. but um what do you see a lot of that who. has. birds who has birds that's a good. question who has birds.

i have five birds okay my daughter we. all have them we're family. how big are these and how loud are they. they can we have. two parrots they're she'll kill me if i. say this wrong indian. ring necks okay parrots we have we have. two of those. and one of one of them's talking the. other one's young they hadn't talking it. uh echo he he's quite talkative we on. discuss. brenton talked about bringing a pet. bringing something with me and it said. the hotel probably wouldn't like that. and i.

asked my daughter she said only if i can. come. she wouldn't sit in the bird well maybe. next time we'll have her come too man. oh that's a beautiful bird yeah there we. have a blue and a green one. yeah oh they're beautiful and so now do. you rescue these out of people's homes. no. the these were these weren't rescues. okay now we. she does have a oh it's got a couple. parakeets. different types of parakeets and we have. a love bird which came from an animal. rescue it came from a uh. on as a bird rescue and it had been.

i think it'd been abused it was. mishandled it wasn't handled properly. and it's like seven years old and love. is a battlefield brother and then she. got. she got it um i mean there's all there's. animal rescues where parrots weren't. taken care of. no big mccall no just animals arctic. just like dogs and cats can get abused. where animals aren't taken care of. mistreated and they. they're giving up now now what about. show animals anybody you know sometimes. you see like i know they had a cat show. for a while out there near.

uh fresno they got busted and they shut. down and had a disband and get rid of a. lot of the cats and a lot of the. you know there's people you see i know. you mentioned earlier they got squirrels. i remember about it. um i don't know if it was dollywood or. someplace in arkansas they used to have. that little. you know the squirrel on the water skis. a little deal they put out there at. recess or whatever lunch you know. and you could throw a little barbecue. chips at them or whatever but have you. had any uh. animals that have have you had any shows. that have shut down in your area and he. met magicians and you had to go rescue.

the dove or anything like that or reach. into a hat. you know like anything you've had to do. like where the the performance animals. well i i did get a call about white rats. and they were obviously domesticated. rats and somebody let go. and there's quite a few of them in this. kind of neighborhood but they were. coming to one house. okay and i mean i called caught all them. just like i do. any other rats but they were all white. so what did that mean. that somebody couldn't care for and they. just released it. okay but you don't know if they were in.

shows or anything oh no no they wouldn't. in a show no. i don't not not where they were at they. weren't in the show i've never. i've never had to get anything that. somebody had in a show that were. something that was released now we i. think in ohio a couple years ago a guy. let. you know something don't know what he. was unhappy about but he had a lot of. exotic cats and he let them all. everything go and i think they ended up. having to euthanize most of them. they were just you know you let a cougar. go. you got you know the lion you can't you. know they're going to get somebody then.

i think they euthanized most of but that. was somebody that. just let pets go that they shouldn't. have had to start with okay. so what tell me take me into the big cat. game what's that like when you get some. of these big cat calls and. uh what kind of cats do you deal with i. mean the only cats i deal with are. bobcats. now are they violent oh they're out of. all the. and back goes into the trapping part of. it the. the uh i catch a coyote they try to get. away from me i mean they're. if they're caught they're going to be as.

far if there's a if it's a. if they have three foot of chain or. cable attached to that trap or a snare. they're going to be as far away as they. can get from you coward away from you. bobcat comes after you the bobcat. they'll flat come after you here's a. question right here that came in about. one video. oh there's a video you right here. dealing with one okay. wow.

and is it chained down to the ground. right now it's caught in a foot trap. okay. and i like the red fox i don't like the. so this is a red fox this isn't a bobcat. yeah that's that's a red fox i like the. red fox they. they are on the euthanasia list in the. nuisance part. now this is this is fur trapping just. regular i'm trapping under my. trapper's license and i'll release all. them when possible because they just. don't see as many of them. and i just use a choke pole and so i let. him loose and he'll.

bam he's he's all off to live the other. day. there was a girl i ran into a girl a. couple of months ago in los angeles and. she had a fox fur coat. and she was kind of wearing it laid out. she didn't want to tell everybody she. told everybody it was fake but then i i. felt like it wasn't fake you know i. touched it and i felt like. i said i don't know i felt some fake. stuff before and it feel like real stuff. oh they're very nice so she admitted to. me secretly she'd been doing drugs but. she told me secretly that it was. real so there's i mean there's a lot of. the fur industry is really gone.

you'll see more actors actors um singers. sporting fur sporting bobcat that's the. biggest thing i i have several bobcats. that i've been that i've held on to. that i want to have made into a vest or. a coat and i have some. black or black coyotes that i've helped. that i've trapped over the years. wow and i want to have a kind of like a. black. coyote backing and bobcat front i'd buy. something like that from you. i mean it's i mean there you can i mean. the fur coat the. like the bobcats i sell that all the fur.

goes to for the fur industry most of it. ships to like china and russia for no. liners for fur coats or jackets but like. the. bobcats there's a guy that would used to. buy mine into lexington kentucky. that makes custom furs coats and stuff. and he buys the bobcats for that. yes i i don't know if it's secretly. still a pretty big business or not. you know i mean it's i mean a lot of. people are down on it. i mean but a lot of people like it too. and a lot of people are down on what we. do. you know people don't like the trapping.

yeah i mean it it. injures him sometime you know it it. catches him by the foot you know. it does hurt you know um it does do more. in. the more they fight the more they might. hurt themselves but. i've actually got in places to trap. before farms a trap in the winter. by taking a trap and sticking my hand in. it and just. usually like a number two one's not real. hard powerful it don't. break the bones break it don't feel good. but that lets somebody know okay well if. a dog does get caught in it's not gonna. break its foot off right.

and if i'm willing to stick my hand in. it they're willing to let me track. because they don't fear what the cat. gets it is not going to kill the cat. right it just won't like it very well. but it'll be able to be released. unharmed i mean it's. kind of strange you know i do that but. some people do that you do. trappings getting harder and harder to. find places to trap. well it's weird that we're part of. nature but we. sometimes act like we're this. but we're this more conscious part of. nature i guess because it's not like you.

probably have. some raccoons that won't come in and. kill the babies to get the mother to go. back and you know i'm saying it's not. like you don't have these other dirty. parts of nature that run its course. um you know i have a friend who does. some big game hunting. and he talks about how a lot of times. the the conservation the place you go to. hunt whatever it is. you have to pay like half a million. dollars to do it. and the money you pay it's usually a. sick animal that you're.

killing or an old animal that's not. procreating. one out of the group yes and so the. money you're gonna pay. is gonna take care of 500 other animals. you know like um it's just interesting. sometimes like. uh how one news article. you know sometimes just won't give you. all the facts so at least you can make. um have a little bit more information a. lot they'll feed like they'll take that. animal too and they'll feed the whole. village. right oh totally yeah yeah they won't. even they might take a you they might.

get some part of the animal taxidermied. or get a photo or something like that. uh for their relic but they're gonna. yeah but that. that the food from that could feed the. entire village and also but the money. for the conservation group. is going to it's going to bring it's. going to help so many more animals. live it's almost unbelievable you know i. mean the hunters have been. that money goes for the preservation the. to keep the poachers away. totally no the fancy or whatever and you. need it look i'll tell you this i was in.

south africa this is probably. maybe eight years ago seven years ago. doing comedy shows over there. and we met a man one day and he was rich. this man was rich man he. and his wife had run a diamond mind. or mine and they. or hell who maybe was a damn diamond. mind maybe it was damn indiana jones. but they had run something where they. had made a ton of money but they owned a. nature preserve their own. i mean and this dude took us in the.

helicopter and i actually ended up. hooking up with his girlfriend one time. i still feel pretty bad about that. but uh but anyway this man took us over. to their nature preserve and. and he took us around some of the. biggest animals that he might have had. damn dinosaurs i don't remember what he. had. but i mean he had trice uh rhinoceros. everything you know jeremy just we. pulled right up next to him they were. his. in his damn yard i mean his yard i'll. admit was probably 50. 000 acres or something but it was a yard. fast forward two weeks.

he sends me a picture the two rhinoceros. we'd seen. somebody broken in and saw their horns. off with a uh. chainsaw and just left the bodies right. there to rot yeah. and he said poachers have gotten in and. gotten them and it was they're trying to. protect them and. get the people there poaching just to. sell that little bit of ivory. off of them right so it's just. interesting it's like one thing's gonna. happen. it's just nature it's like this part of. nature is gonna happen. sometimes you have to do another part of. you have to.

just it's about managing nature yeah see. that's what my. i mean it's got to get in the away from. the noose the wildlife part it. like by trapping my daughter doesn't she. doesn't like me getting all the animals. that. no but she she loves animals right but. i we keep him in check you know this. year. um i trapped 66 coyotes wow and over the. course of the four-month trapping season. you know think how many coyotes i took. out of the population. all those females which over half of. them were females. they're going to have all those young.

you know all the baby deer that i saved. all the young turkeys that i saved all. the i do a lot of work for uh. sheep farms and all the baby sheep oh. sheep will get attacked and sheep is. just a damn [ __ ] throw pillow full of. dinner dog. they'll get them [ __ ] immediately so. i just immediately we got to keep it in. check. you know everything's got to be kept in. check or if not it'll. um like the deer i mean that's why they. have deer seasons. and they keep upping the quota if they. didn't have a deers if you weren't. allowed to kill a deer.

i mean your insurance that's what makes. your insurance cost so much now is all. the wrecks. right i mean where i live that deer deer. collisions are horrible. i mean i've got friends have hit 10. different deer in their life total cars. i mean it's. they're there and if we didn't have. these seasons to keep them in check. there'd be just that much more of them. on the road crossing the roads. just like all the other animals if there. wasn't but it's all in a. balance like the groundhogs are starting. to come make a comeback. and why are they doing it what's going. on their main predator was the coyote.

oh so i'm killing them so if you take. too many it messes up the cycle. you take too many coyotes out and then. the. groundhogs are going to get. overpopulated damn so i mean. everything's got a. spot everything's got a little spot in. that food chain. but i mean they have to be kept in check. i mean people you know it's it's part of. it mother nature does it herself with. disease and stuff you know. we're just giving her a little helping. hand no look i think it makes perfect. sense like you're saying if you don't. take those coyotes out.

then how many more turkeys do they get. into how many more baby deer do they. kill. how many more uh chicken houses. just different things how many more. different circles will they mess up i. mean. bobcats they'll a bobcat take down a. full-grown deer damn. i mean they a bobcat goes for the neck. well. attack no a cat goes for the neck canine. usually go for the rear they bite no. they. they type from the rear but you know a. bobcat they'll take down. and pets both of them will take down.

coyotes or big pet killers. because cats if you we got cats that are. around dogs. i have a little healer the cat's not. scared of the dog so a coyote could walk. right up to a cat. and just just take it with it because. the cat got scared of it. oh cause they're the same species well i. mean where they're they're used to. my cats used to doc no most cats are. used to cats that are outside are used. to i'm not talking about bobcats now i'm. like a domesticated house cat. okay or used to dogs and so if a coyote. walks through your yard and the cat's.

there the cat's like hey what's up oh. you see it's a dog. yeah and it thinks it's just a dog and. bam you know coyotes are starting to. come into our neighborhoods and eating. the pets because they're easy meals wow. and they'll eat they'll eat small dogs. they'll eat that bobcats. don't know if they're real they'll eat. another cat if it's out and we. know if they can get to it they're. they'll eat they're a hunter they'll eat. whatever. they can come across my god. but they they killed i mean i've seen. videos. on cameras where coyotes were attacking.

deer bobcats were attacking deer. do you feel sometimes like we're kind of. ruining the world and that we it's like. kind of a bummer that we're in it not in. a bad way like. but just do you ever like have that. moment where you're like man nature. would be so much worse. we're asking them to live in their. area that's your journey after no that. you look i think you have a good. you got a unique position because you're. that you know you're kind of that middle. man. you're that middle man where it's like. hey man whenever you know somebody. starts. you know stepping on when it's you know.

red rover red rover a coyote came over. you know i'm saying you're the guy they. call. yeah you know like you're that freaking. you're the you're the referee kinda. yeah so i think getting your perception. is interesting that. yeah we're kind of if you so you would. say it feels like we're. on their turf in the world yeah i mean. it's we're. uh bats will go into bats uh you know. they mainly they'll live in trees i mean. bats are everywhere. and they'll live in trees and the more. trees and structures that we remove to.

build houses. and whatnot they're going to come live. in your house right once again. it's just a big tree to them here's a. question we got that came oh there's. some video right here you dealing with. one of them yeah. that's a photo yeah that's one i removed. from from a house. wow i mean they they have canines if you. you see their teeth i mean they have. canine just like a. it's like a dog and they got the big. canine teeth yeah i mean they. they can inflict a pretty good bite on. you so i mean don't air you see a bat. don't just call call the professionals.

and let them. i've got i've got all protective gloves. you get bit by him and he flies off. dude you're getting rabies shots and you. don't have to go do that that's pretty. pretty nasty shots have you seen someone. die of rabies. no i haven't i know i know several. people personally have had rabies. i've done a couple jobs where the people. had such a bad bat problem. they've already had they've gotten bit. and already had to get rabies vaccinated. shot or rabies shots. and still haven't got rid of the bats. damn so just.

some people just i don't know just don't. understand aren't educated or slow. learners or. if i got rabies shots i'd probably be. getting rid of bats if i had them that. bad. yeah i think but i mean they can bite. you if you have one in your living space. i mean they could bite you and you not. know it when you're asleep. enough to know just a little prick and. you not notice it and there you go. so do um have you had uh. anybody have you had any senior citizens. living with animals they didn't know. they were living with like any crazy. instances like that.

um i had an elderly lady that. she kept hearing something and there was. possum in her house. it had come in through one of the vents. in the bedroom that she hadn't used for. a while pushed the vent up. and it was running around the house she. she actually thought it was a cat. and she just caught they always think. that glimpses of it but i mean other. you know people not i mean that was. actually living. in the house with her amen no no others. would be under the house. and and uh i mean rocco they'll i've had.

a customer sent me a they said they sent. me a message. texting me said we got a raccoon problem. can you help and i said yeah and i said. well you know it's a raccoon and they. sent me a picture. the raccoon had come through the. ductwork into the ceiling. in the kitchen knocked the register out. and were when you screw all that. ductwork together you use these big. metal sheet metal screws and it got. itself wedged up in them screws. and was hanging there and just a bloody. mess blood where he'd been trying to get.

out all over the ceiling dripped all. over the floor. and she sent me a picture said we're. pretty sure it's a raccoon. i mean picture of the damn thing still. alive bleeding all over the place so. i couldn't i had to i went over as quick. as i could and was able to put somebody. on the bottom and when it took the duct. work off and captured it and got it out. of there. unbelievable but they'll get in some. pretty predicaments bad spots. now what's animals you won't deal with. i'm guessing probably for surely you. know big. large aquatic i'm sure isn't your deal.

and uh. what else you think isn't um under my. license we can't. bear shark we can't deal in kentucky we. can't deal with deer. turkey black bear elk we're not allowed. to unless. who's that the police you call one of. the fish and wildlife. unless they give us unless the. commissioner of fish and wildlife says. okay. we'll give you permission to take care. of this animal but normally. those are certain type animals that i. can't like somebody's got a black bear.

i can't help you so you're that middle. man kind of and now what's something you. won't go down and handle either i mean. you're not handling pests really you're. not handling. you know roaches or even large roaches i. don't like but i'm scared of spiders. okay i'd rather go wrestle a bobcat. underneath the house then get a spider i. hate spiders. yeah i'm damn i hate spiders yeah okay. my wife thinks it's funny i mean i'll. han i'll grab a raccoon with my bare. hands and gloves. i won't get a spider i don't like. spiders wow each his own i don't. but you don't do pests so you don't do. so no i don't do incest no i'm not.

licensed but i'm licensed wildlife i. don't do. i don't do the bug work i mean that's. that's more com. it's it's more licensing because you're. spraying a chemical inside the. house with people do you look down on. those people at all like it's kind of. easy. i get they give their i mean the bug. guys. they call me animal guys but they're i. mean i get we get a lot of work from the. pest control because they get they get. past call somebody gets a raccoon. they look up the phone book and they. call pest control exterminator. and so then that exterminator calls me.

says hey marty we got. customers got raccoons take care of it. right or then i'll go to a house. and oh and i'll be doing a job while i. find termite damage. when i'm in uh crawl space or you know. something like that and hey. yeah i recommend this guy yeah and then. we help each other out now we pass it. back and forth. right and we just be in professional. courtesy and help each other. i scratch your badger you scratch mine. yeah there you go. and then some guys do both yeah a lot of. guys have their.

pest control license and wildlife. license okay. but i just had the one but i mean the. bigger just bigger company and then. while or pest control is a big big. business yeah yeah it's a lot of. business yeah. it seems like it um would you get calls. every day. yeah i get i mean i'm not big you know. hundreds of calls a week but i get quite. you know it varies you get slow. i might get a bunch of calls and it. might not phone might not rain for a day. or two. but i've always got jobs going on so i'm.

staying right because some of them take. a couple days a couple weeks well some. yeah some of them take a while bat jobs. i've got several bat jobs scheduled. already. for this spring you know i keep be i'd. like to be. i don't want to be big i've got one guy. i don't want to be busy or not. i want right i don't want to get i don't. want to grow. too big i mean it'd be good to grow but. then you have more people. you have more responsibilities more. responsibility more vehicles more. insurance more liability no it's a lot. yeah and then i won't. lay then i'll be home at laying awake.

worrying about i got. jobs work for this guy and this guy can. make this payment. i i'm happy with what i'm doing me and. one guy. and that's keeping me happy tim you said. his name man yeah timmy cooper he's a. he's my farm hand he's my wildlife man. he's home right now putting an engine in. one of our race cars oh really. yeah he's getting we're getting ready. for race season so he's working on that. right now. okay so the summer time is rate like so. what kind of racing you guys do. uh compacts it's cavaliers honda's. i race a uh cavalier okay so you get out.

there and ready and uh track. racing yeah so how often do you guys do. that yeah every weekend so this is a. dirt track right over here. oh there is yeah literally yeah there's. that was last year's car. hulk racing right there yeah hawk. wildlife control and that's your car. right there yep that's my car. and that's your company yeah that's my. company hock wildlife control yes sir. um and i'm the driver amen baby now i've. got another car this year. two of them this year and steve is going.

to drive it. now who is timmy the guy that works for. he's going he's going to drive the. second car okay. and is he uh and so now let me see what. kind of cage zoom in on that please. what kind of cage you got you know what. that is. that is a i bought that car already. built that is a front of a shopping cart. look at that now look after i said that. and you look at that that's the front of. the shopping cart. it is upside down i love it now my new. car. that i like this one the new car that i.

like you got pictures of it too and it's. got a custom built. roll cage i mean it's top-notch a good. friend of mine corey lewis from 1107. motor works. at home where i live at he built me a. custom yeah that car he built me. he built me a custom cage and now how. fast this thing goes. uh we'll go 70 mile an hour 60 seconds. so what are the rules in this. what is this what is this branch of. racing called again this is. compacts so hornets compacts four. cylinder class. it's a four cylinder motor so only a. four cylinder is front wheel drive.

there's four cylinder rear wheel drives. and front wheel drives so these things. you can't even get them going that fast. anyway if you wanted to know you can. you can spin you can spend a lot of. money on them i don't. um i've got a i've spent i spent way too. much this year i mean you can go out and. spend. four or five thousand dollars if you. want on having the motor built wow. just a ecotec just wants to run around. they're in cavaliers or in. those h8 during a bunch of different. chevrolet engine but they're just it's a. cheaper class i mean you get the.

cavalier it's affordable. yeah it's it's affordable class it's and. you go up late model or. modified or sport mod and you're getting. bigger motors. so what what cars so what gears and. types of cars can be in this class of. racing. the our track rules is for it's got to. be front wheel drive and four-cylinder. that's it. yeah anything else okay take me to a. race to that on youtube sean real quick. i just want to see something. we have a local dirt track right there. in my home in my home county wow there's. several around us and.

how often will you guys race i mean we. could race i mean i ra we race every. saturday night. when the season starts and then they. have other tracks that race on friday. nights and some race on a sunday so we. could go all over. there we go wow so that's dirt track huh. it's fine. is it yeah is it pretty dangerous or not. really yeah it can i mean we wear. full fire suit helmet i mean it can i've. never got i mean i've never wrecked. other than hitting cars i've never had. to roll over or gone off. i went off the bank once last year but.

they would drive right back on but. i've watched a lot of guys get hurt in. it you can get hurt in it how much does. it cost to be in it. what to to have the car or just a race. yeah just take me through the costs. i mean like i mean to race the 30. pit pass and i'm racing that night wow. just dirt just entrance fee. and usually we get like if we. if we run the feature you get a you get. a 20. start money you get 20 back out of that. if you win no. just to start just to be in the future.

yeah everybody gets say there's 15. to feature you get that start money back. even though you don't win. and then i think our club what does. feature mean you get in the top 15. the. the big race you got hot laps you got. your hot laps and. then you go you gotta you hotline. qualify yeah you're qualified. and then you then go up to get your. feature lap then you're featured. sometimes you get depends on how many. cars you have you have one feature two. features. but our our particular truck i think. they're paying out this year 800 for. first. wow five per second that's a lot of.

money for a little compact. yeah it is man and how uh how long is. the race. uh but ours is 15 laps wow. so what does that take maybe 12 12. minutes yeah. it takes i mean you're moving on versus. some tractor archer's a longer track and. some tracks are shorter. i mean it seems like it's forever when. you're out there and you have a lot of. cautions and you got sitting weight or. somebody wrecks and they got cleaned up. all the drag it off the track and you'll. be waiting i mean sometimes you might be. out there 20 minutes. but there's no pit stops or anything no.

you can't in ours there's no pitting. there's no. if you go i've i've run races with flat. tires just kept on going yeah. they till they tell me stop they they'll. rip black flag me. ready you know get off the track then. i'm done. so anybody with a four-cylinder car. could go get a pit pass and get in that. race. yeah and as long as it's got a pro you. know roll cage approved and you've got. your safety gear. they'll get in and some of them inspect. them pretty close but. i mean you got to have a helmet you got. to have safety your your clothes fire.

extinguisher. but i mean it's a fun dirt track has. been in my area for years and years. yeah they had bombers and stock you know. stock cars bombers and now we're getting. it's just an affordable class it's just. one that. my first car i paid 1200 for it ready to. race it borrowed a helmet and was racing. yeah and this year i built a new. bot a car bought an old car. motor blowed up and had it all fixed up. and repainted and.

new body panels put on it and then. putting in a built-in. having the motor built put in it an. all-new cage built new racing seat. and it's it's just a fun way now you're. getting into it now yeah. i mean i'm advertising it's it's. business yeah it's. right off from my business i like it i. like it wife likes that it's a ride off. it's fun. it's fun honey i gotta go do some. advertising tonight yeah. there's quite a few wildlife guys. actually i know now you know it would be. cool man. and i'm just going to give you a free.

idea here and this. is you put a cage in the back you throw. a couple animals in that [ __ ] while. you're. [Music]. they drunk frown on that well i don't. know would they. but you do you want to talk about. horsepower talk about raccoon power. there you go. put a bunch of mean pissed off right. yeah dude like damn it's got eight. raccoons. it's got it's got 280 horsepower it also. has eight raccoon power in it baby. it's not a bad idea really but they pay. for the car really. you guys like catching raccoons and. animals help pay for that car let them. enjoy it brother let them enjoy the ride.

man some people do different things for. enter you know go out clubbing. now go we go racing well then the kids. will want to come by and see your car. before the race you know what i'm saying. there would be oh well they come down in. the pits and they look at the cars and. take pictures i love the kid. we do there's a thing they call running. the track in before the race where. where they're getting the track ready. and they go it gets a little bit too wet. where they water and we go run it in. just dry it out and we're we just we. just go slow we don't go real fast and. i'll take we'll take kids we can have. somebody go with us oh that's cool. you talking about making you know a.

little 10 year old day him riding that. car. i bet oh man just they love it you know. get to ride in the race car i mean. we're not nascar but no but to them you. are yeah i mean it's. for where i'm at it's kind of like no. we're nascar or oh. race car to a 10 year old being on a. track made out of dirt which is one of. their favorite things. we have a he's i guess 11 now. last year he was racing um a compact. and he had a sport mod wow and he's 10. years old.

and he i race against a lot of kids that. are 10. 12 14 years old and here i'm 48 and i'm. racing against 10 year old. oh look man that's the world today man. it's you know we got to compete with the. young brother the competition bring it. and those are the ones that'll make it. bigger will make race car drivers. started out young yeah totally yeah yeah. maybe let's. maybe we can leave out if there's a. story that you want to tell us something. maybe some like a wild. experience that's happened over the. years um. another one out we were discussed.

get a call from a i do a lot of a lot of. local work but sheriff's departments. police department. they'll give me calls they get a deer. stuck in the fence. or now will they sometimes call you when. they just don't want to deal with. something well they're just not their. field. no they get i'll get a call like we got. this raccoon and somebody's got a pet. raccoon. mm-hmm or they'll call me or um. police i this happens a lot um. old i don't have you know a wit a person. at home. residence and they hear something and.

think somebody's breaking in. it's a raccoon and they're at it they. think it's a person up there of course. so then the cops are you know they'll be. like well we know marty let's. know here here's his number and they'll. call me and then i'll come out and try. to take care of it for him. but i get a call one night and it was. real it was i don't know. one or two o'clock in the morning i get. a call from a sheriff's department a. couple counties away. from their dispatch so we need your help. we get they're on a traffic stop and. they have an unusual occupant in the.

vehicle. and i said well what and they said well. they said it might be a deer. i said okay so i grabbed a big dog dog. crate and. my daughter wanted to go she was still. up we were night owls. and so she goes with me and so i go we. travel there took about an hour to get. there and i get there and there's. all the cops are all on the side of the. road and they got the guy out there and. they're doing the. they're still doing a sobriety test on. him where he was drunk. and i get up to the car and there's baby. deer in the front seat.

and what was he doing just sitting there. well the guy had to pet deer i mean the. guy's driving around drunk with that. deer in his car. oh hell yeah in the front seat and they. i think actually they tried i think they. got him for wanting endangerment maybe. with like a passenger for because. there's an occupant oh. but danger in that animal i guess that's. and uh it was tame. i mean it been bottle-fed and so my we. get the deer out put up my truck. now you got pictures he's got pictures. of that there they had it in my truck. bottle feeding it on the way home was it.

in the front seat or back seat. that was in the front side of the car. hell yeah they're right in the front. seat i never had seat belt david. could have been a damn date dude. honestly well not a little young. but i mean he had like you talked about. the bling it had a big fancy collar on. it they hit a collar a little duck. pretty dog collar on it and it. look it's hard to meet somebody man in. some areas you know. no judgment it is but what it found out. the guy had. just like i talked to you before he. found it on. a band and said it was orphan wow picked.

it up you know. and kept it because he didn't think. mommy's around but we kept it for a week. or so my daughter. she bottle-fed it and then we took it to. rehabber and they. about i didn't check by me they raised. they'll bottle feeding raisins and turn. them loose. take them out in the wild any wild. horses or anything ever been called or. anything. just anything like that any wild horses. no trying to think of any other animals. that really are. um it's nice to know where this middle. ground is. i get turtle calls i've done some you.

know people just what are they up to. snapping turtles in their ponds. just don't want snapping turtles in the. pond you have to go can you get in there. i just oh i don't do turtleman i don't. go in and wrestle the turtles and who. does that. well the the turtleman guy i don't do. the oh you call a reptile guy. yeah he's uh he had a show on he's in. from kentucky. turtleman oh i never saw it yeah you. said tv show on. did he yeah he don't uh it's not on. anymore he would go into ponds and. actually grab him. um yeah there you go he is actually.

a good friend of my good friend ronnie. vincent it helped me get started in the. wildlife business. and he actually is a turtle wrangler. that's what he was known for damn. he goes in there feels for him and grabs. them by the tail and pulls them out. i just use a jug and a hook and catch. them and. get rid of them for them but it's. interesting that the whole. field it seems like you know your. grandfather kind of got you into dealing. with animals and. it's just interesting that it like.

in the same way that there's kind of the. food chain and mother nature that. the way that we learn things from each. other and a lot of it is by. another human showing us something you. know it's like. anybody could give you a book or send. you a link to a video but unless you. really have somebody kind of. showing you a lot of times it's really. how you get into things well it's that. like the trapping part to dying. thing yeah i've had um. a buddy he didn't know him at the time. several years ago he messages me. hey man i like i watch your i post all.

my. catch pictures in the winter time on my. facebook page everybody wants to see my. all my everybody's fascinated with it. and loves to see all the pictures we'll. put a link to that what is it. it's just it's on my just on my facebook. page marty warriors. all right we'll put a link then i have. my business page. wildlife controls on facebook also. so he messaged me as one and said i'm. i'm i like your stuff can i get in. will you help me yeah and so for about. the next two years.

he went and we became real good friends. we trapped i showed him he didn't. know a thing i mean his name was josh. brine maybe you'll get to see this. and we became good friends and i taught. him all about trap and. everything that i've learned over the. years and went out and trapped together. for a couple years and then he went on. his own now he traps. and hopefully he'll pa he's got two. daughters and hopefully maybe he'll pass. that down to one of them or get to pass. it on. i've helped several kid no he's not a. kid but i've helped several people like. that. pass that tradition off right which is a.

dying tradition. is it yeah i mean you just don't see it. any i mean. who do you know it goes out and traps. coyotes in the winter it's just a dying. tradition nobody. i mean it's kind of a you know one year. my wife let me grow a beard. i mean i had a mountain man a pretty big. there you go big full. beard fun can't do it no more she won't. let me she won't nope. wow what happens she just don't like the. beards yeah oh i can have a beard if. it's neat and trimmed. yeah and she's going to kill me for you. i'm talking about her but i can if it's. all neat and trimmed i can have it but.

rules is rules we need rules man we need. rules happy wife happy life there you go. that's what they say i believe that man. um now but tell me this so a trapper. what does a trapper do i just want to. finish that so i know exactly clearly. what a trapper is and what it does. mean trapper versus wildlife nuisance. wildlife. right so when you say like you go. trapping coyotes like what are you like. so when. when i'm trapping i'm fur trapping there. let me put it first. nuisance wildlife um getting rid of. animals that say i can't i don't keep. those first if i catch a raccoon it's.

out of season. right i don't keep those animals right. and. fur trapping is in the winter months. from november to end of february. is fur bear season when i can go out and. trap you can go out trap. ground or go out trap coyotes raccoons. uh. fox beavers bobcats so it's just the. same as hunting season but it's first. yeah it's first it's fur bear season. first. season and you know it's a lot of young. kid you know a lot of people do it the. old timers and pass it on and just. people learning i mean there's a million.

youtube. videos about it and i mean i'm still. learning stuff every day and i watch new. new techniques and new methods you know. it everybody's got their own. method on how they trap or baits they. use or. bait and lure business is a huge. business is it trapping oh yeah they're. i mean they all make the similar baits. but everybody's got their best bait and. what's that top bait you use a lure what. do you use chicken liver. oh no it's like on my predator trapping. uh one of my favorite lures is jeff.

dunlop lures. and he's just a big hardcore trapper and. has developed his own lure baits and. lures. and now what kind of uh meat if you use. a a meat or something you use. well most lures are made with baits are. made with. like muskrat meat tainted muskrat meat. oh yeah. it's aged and got preserved or. beaver meat that's tainted a little bit. to give off that. to to give off the smell for the that. predator oh yeah. sort of like uh like bobcat you know.

they. the muskrat meat base bait they like. that scrat. pardon they like that scrap meat yeah i. mean it's one of the things they eat. right you know i mean they're beavers. bobcats love. beavers so let me name something you. tell me what eats it all right. uh groundhog. coyote okay coyote. a car damn i mean that's their they. don't have a name.

i mean mankind man's the coyotes. predator okay. so the food chain should have a damn. volvo in it huh yeah. i think that's kind of good man sean. what do you feel like any questions. today. i feel like we covered a lot of good. stuff man do you feel like you gave out. a lot of good information. i mean i had more i mean but we we kind. of got off on other. i didn't think about i didn't know we're. going to talk about predator fur trap. in the race but that's that's all good. you know that's all well it's all.

interesting stuff you know some of that. is i i think. myself and even a lot of our listeners i. would love i think 180 i didn't know. that there was access. to be able to go race cars if i wanted. to like that. so you know to know that if i were to. put together. you know you said it's about a five five. thousand dollar automobile you have to. put well i mean it's. the you can go out say you i mean. we get them i get on my i'm always. looking for cavaliers that's what i race. if you get on facebook marketplace i'll. find a. cavalier 800. runs good boom.

snatch that sucker up strip you know you. strip the whole interior out. throw your roll cage in it you know you. can use the stock tires or put racing. wheels and tires on it bead locks. you can zoop up the motor add some. modifications to it and you gotta take. all the glass. all the glass tail lights out of it bam. go racing slap yours. some guys just take a spray paint can. paint a number on them. some guys but i've got several sponsors. so i'm lucky to. me i don't have a lot but i got enough. to where i can get some grant.

some real graphics done yeah but i mean. it's a. i mean anybody can get into i mean you. got a little bit of money go out get a. car i don't know. every track's different they all have. their rules but this is. country down home country dirt track. racing yeah and saturday night yeah i. mean. just about every weekend you're going to. see a good fight usually fights break. out. people one guy's pissed at the other guy. you hit me and you. did this and getting the fights i mean. it it's pretty it's fun you know it's. all for all there's babies running.

around there. to people in wheelchairs yeah it's fun. for all it's a good. my daughter is going to go work with our. racetrack this year she's going to help. work the gate so. everybody get everybody in the family be. involved in it kind of so. i'll race she'll be helping with the. gate oh it's it's fun it's a good way to. blow off steam. yeah we don't i don't club and party do. all that scene so we go. saturday nights we go racetrack i love. that oh i love that man. no look man i think it's really. fascinating stuff. you know i appreciate you uh so much mr.

voyage for joining us today and honored. to be here. yeah man it's really really cool and uh. and we'll put links to where people can. check you out or hire you and you're. mostly in the. in the kentucky area yeah i do in ohio. too okay across the river ohio river in. ohio. okay so yeah man if you guys want to. meet the magic man. somebody's got to work somebody's got to. work the middle ground of the animal. kingdom huh. and that's who he is the middle man. himself thank you so much mr voyage all. right thank you very much now i'm just. floating. on the breeze and i feel i'm falling.

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