Marlon "Chito" Vera | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #377

um i want to let you know though i got. some new tour dates that you can check. out. and i'm grateful for them uh february. 2nd i'll be in jacksonville florida. the third. st petersburg. uh the fifth i'll be in orlando the 24th. i'll be in. lafayette indiana the 25th rockford. illinois home of the rockford peaches. and that's america's team right there. female ball. february 26 chicago illinois.

uh. may 6th in tulsa may 7th in los angeles. today's guest is a wonderful man and um. and he is the number. eight ranked ufc bantamweight. uh fighter. he's a fighting man and. and a family man he's a he's a lot of. types of man. and um he is the pride of ecuador. uh the country of ecuador and of america. as well.

uh i'm very grateful for his time today. it is mr marlon cheeto vera for me to. set. [Music]. my up. shine that light on me. i'll sit and tell you my stories. [Music]. and i will find a song.

[Applause]. dude thanks for coming in man thank you. for having brother yeah bro you're so. exciting man i feel like you're like one. of the most exciting guys to be. like. whenever i watch you i almost feel like. i need to go for a run or something. because i feel like my energy gets. just watching you like my energy gets up. you know um i got pretty high energy.

dude like i when i get to the cage for. me it's not about. just winning the fight i want you. i'm a performer you know it's like a. movie for me i want to go in there and. let's just make it like. yeah like you got in there and did. enough to win i want to take your head. off clean i don't i'm not trying so hard. for that i don't i don't train for like. just get away with it i tried to like. clean cut damn boy damn you want to take.

them down like a lumberjack i i train. that's all i do you know what i'm saying. like i feel like most fighters sometimes. uh. they think they should work when they. call them to fight. i trained year round that's my job i. don't. i don't have a second job i used to have. a second job when when i didn't make. money but now that this is my life this. is everything i do for living. it's year-round like i turn monday. through monday there's no. seasons because we don't have a season. in the ufc like tomorrow they can tell.

me like hey. the top the the. from from five to number four. everybody's in your or everybody's book. i can't fight for the bell next i don't. know what's gonna happen like somebody. can get copied somebody can get hurt and. they call the guy that is below next so. you got to be ready for me it's like. just being ready like my only job is to. fight well. i'm ready to fight at any moment wow. do um you said you had another job at. one point what was that other job you. had dude it was some [ __ ] awful job.

um it was it was like like kind of like. work for the city hall it was like a. governmental stuff yeah and like chasing. was it like animal catching or something. i wish dude that would be nice my shirt. was like. sitting on a boot and. it was like a window and everybody. brings papers like legal stuff like a. bunch of lawyers coming in and now. people that put uh. i don't know let's see you stole my card. you bring the paper saying that the. the cub report and my job was to take.

the paper and and put it in specific. folders like crime i don't know a small. smaller team small crime mysteries or. whatever from from from something huge. to something small and my job was. usually grab a paper and put in a folder. and these people was like hey it's been. the third time what the [ __ ] like is. your phone like. [ __ ] my i could pay like 300 a month. like my job is to grab the paper and put. in here like if you have an issue go. inside and go talk to i don't know to.

where the [ __ ] lost here like yes. somebody i'm nobody here and. wow my job was the shitty job. i sort of got i would rather clean the. floors. than do that because. every day somebody was mad because their. their. their stuff wasn't being processed. and they would tell me to [ __ ] off or. [ __ ] you you don't do you're like. i'm using paper guys i just grab papers. and put it on and one and one day snap. and i use you did snap i and what.

happened on a man or woman. a guy i will never stop one lady well. most of them i wouldn't but once in a. while maybe i'm a lover yeah i'm like. with the ladies all respect you know i. can my dad teach me good manners but. yeah this guy was like. treating me like a piece of [ __ ]. and yeah i guess he was like a like like. a big time lawyer whatever and i just. when he dropped he just throw the. peppers and when he was leaving i was. like [ __ ] you [ __ ] and he walked. around but he didn't knew.

i was a fighter yeah i was a guy trying. to be in the ufc one day and he came. around like what you said i was like i. was just like. dude. you know it's not this is not your dad. trust me yeah and then he just walked. away basically saying i will kick your. ass. he wouldn't do [ __ ]. but then that guy was probably friends. with somebody high. in the it's not a company's uh. um just business. in a building oh fancy people like rich. people yeah i guess and then i get. kicked out in that moment you got kicked.

up but you didn't hit the guy no i i. wish i hit it because i was getting. kicked out was i was like but when they. when when they kicked me i was like. thank god i just you know i just i keep. trying. i was free but there was no money right. so i have to go back to my data. basically hey i need some help like. help me and then my dad was like okay. i'm gonna help you. this is the last year i helped you i was. like. 19. but i was already married i already. have a daughter so it's like hey this is. the last year i'm going to help you.

to to get your fantasy ufc whatever your. dream but. when this december you're done with me. and then either you work for me like no. training just work for me. or you find whatever to do with your. life. and literally. my dad put me a day like this december. you're done with me. and the ufc coming november. it was it was just meant to be yeah it's. life when you do so much for something. you will [ __ ] get it no matter what. yeah one of my friends used to say if he.

used to ask me he said have you ever. worked really hard for something and not. gotten it. and the answer was no like if it's. something i really really work for. you always get it it's impossible to if. you don't get something it thinks if it. still don't go right in life it's. because either you're not doing enough. or you're doing it wrong oh there's no. way you don't get there if you put. everything together there will be. obstacles there will be bad days there. will be. a setbacks but if you keep on going and.

and you really want to make it happen. it's just impossible not to happen facts. wow that's powerful man it is well. especially coming from a guy like you. who's who who's put that to the test in. his own life you know you've burned that. candle and lit up your own future with. uh with it you know um i heard you say. on uh on joe rogan's that um. there were times where you fought where. you didn't even want them to pay you yes. because you just wanted to get your name. out there 100. was.

is one of the like why do you think you. fight like i think some people fight for. different reasons this is just me yeah. some people fight they want to be seen. some people. they need to. win some people need to prove something. like do you do you know what it is. inside of you that makes you. yeah i. i love. crazy [ __ ] like. uh when i was a little kid. like for example let me start with this. in in my family. i would call them their normal people. like my dad have a farm he worked the.

farm he figured out how to make money. but regular guy he will work. in anywhere to provide for the family. right i saw that as a kid my mom. she she stayed home. make sure the house is clean and nice. make sure the kids me and my two my. brother my sister we're good like you're. just normal. sister and brother graduate we're in. college have normal jobs you know. and but when i was a kid i was just. trying to find my dad guns and play with.

them or. just jumping from breaking my arm i was. just looking for to do crazy [ __ ] and. when i was a little kid i was a huge fan. of like rambo or chuck norris and i was. like i want to be like a navy seal i. want to be like a real. badass but. no offense to my country you go to the. military network you're [ __ ] really we. don't even have guns out there like we. have but what they have more swords. maybe yeah a couple machetes yeah you. know we don't have the navy seals.

like in here like. here you got like and every single. division and they're all like real. killers. we have a small army it's just different. it's a third world country so i i was. smart enough to be like okay if i really. want to do this. not in my country i love my country till. then but it's just not for me the. military the military so. i will you i will get in street fights. all the time like you know my cousins or.

my brother for fun. homeless kids like hey i give you a. couple bucks and you fight my brother. and for me it was a game we would get. like it was an inspiring did you lose. sometimes yeah i get my ass kicked a. thousand times did you ever fight any. grown man or it was just children. um. most were my age but you know they live. in the street they got more experience. they got more everything i was like i. was a kid from my mom would give him my. the phone in my mouth those kids have to. hustle for real yeah those kids they got. a lot more like uh hoof to mouth.

a lot of disease and stuff i gotta get a. lot they gotta lie. and then i just like fighting like. and when when i get to see pride that. you've seen everything else like well. that's gonna be my my life i'm gonna. become a fighter one day yeah i heard. you talking about that like whenever you. first saw it you're like whoa this is a. real thing and then it just beckoned you. but so you think you fight because. you just ca you just like anarchy kind. of do you like the insanity of it do you.

i love i love all that i love the. process i love the even yesterday when i. was watching the fights life i was like. i was watching and i was like this is. [ __ ] crazy like. i'm an expectator. to two [ __ ] guys in a cage beating. the shade of each other. for. money. and of course you know somebody what. people want to be famous people want to. advance in life you got you want to meet. the cool people you you that you will. never met whatever. it's insane it's like the gladiators. like yeah they call it.

two guys fight until then. i'm pretty mean like i'm not i'm not in. there just to like okay i want to be. famous i want to [ __ ] you up yeah. outside the cage i will never get in the. fight unless. the the limits are like push too much. but. i'm not even thinking about it i'm. training all the time. is there fights like is there a fight. that you've that you've been in where. you didn't you still obviously wanted to. where you obviously wanted to win the. fight but the respect level was. different against the guy you were. fighting so it kind of.

it maybe wasn't the same type of like. i'm going to kill this guy as much as i. just want to win this match no it's i. keep the same energy like i thought guys. like all the frankie are like yeah yeah. yeah and you know. everybody respect them for me doesn't. matter if the guy talks [ __ ] if the guy. is a quiet guy. if they don't want to shake hands. i just keep it up and. i'm very honest i'm not in there to. shake hands and bow to each other i'm. like. yeah the catch is locked. i'm gonna make sure you're the one.

feeling bad afterwards wow and i lost. before i when i lose a father i can i. cannot sleep for months because i. all i do is put everything to win you. know it's an obsession like. because of everything that comes with it. is the money to provide for the family. my house like i'm not just fighting. because it's cool right it's [ __ ] rad. to fight you know the ufc is awesome. celebrities coming around like people. like when i was a kid. i would look up to now i'm friends with.

them is. the whole entire circle is cool yeah but. i like fighting even that's your thing i. like fighting do you think that some. fighters there's they start to lose that. focus do you think that there's guys. that it starts to get too much about the. ambiance i think that's it's definitely. gained a lot of track like there's a lot. of i mean i was at. i mean who was there last night i'm sure. there were like i like for example in. from myself like i. mike tyson was there wow like we make. eye contact and he kind of like say hi.

and i was like [ __ ] that's the tiger of. the universe right there yeah i was like. holy oh [ __ ] yeah that's a devil's. doberman. i want to give him a hug but he was. walking fast i was like i'm gonna see. him soon but whatever but like johnny. knoxville was there yeah that's a. [ __ ] lay into that you kind of remind. me of one of those guys in a wheel. because they have that same thing inside. of them when i was a kid. and i used to like i just called my hair. yesterday it was. like almost double as yours you've had a.

lot of styles bring up that photo nick. can you bring it up. the photo calling i sent you i just got. like the people changing password for. for for different accounts. dude that's what you do with your hair i. wasn't changed that password to your. brain yesterday i was like i was looking. at the mirror and i was like don't carry. you look good like that it's not about. looking good it's about being a new. person and i was like you don't like to. [ __ ] every every two weeks and she. was just laughing about it because i i. really changed my hair like every. four or six months oh you've had a lot.

of different styles do you have it colin. but going back to like what you say. about johnny knoxville. steve all. everybody used to call me stevo when i. was a kid really like she used to come. like cheeto like because i would do just. dumb [ __ ] here you go. this is definitely. you could be a lit you could be like a. criminal who goes on the run you know. you're hiding from the fbi. you know. when i was a kid. watching the guns like the guns or.

movies from like new york and i was like. oh that's a good avenue for myself. i can i can be a great hitman yeah yeah. that's why i know my wife like me he's a. new guy every two months. [Laughter]. and i can make her laugh so. yeah well that might be the funniest. thing anybody's ever said on this. podcast that's so funny oh look i. believe. look at the guy at the top right who is. that guy that's a vikings that is a. viking. dangerous if i can this guy on the top.

left maybe is also maybe. business he might be a businessman or. like a rich grandson wealthy son of like. a man. yes yes yeah i see that the guy in the. middle on the left obviously is going to. prison yeah he he was caught with some. crack and some [ __ ]. the guy on the right in the middle now. that guy is a conquistador huh. conquistador there you go yeah dude this. i'm surprised with this picture i never. saw this one and the guy on the bottom. is that you on the bottom right yeah.

that was before the elder fight below. that was before jesus christ bro that. was a long time ago. that looks like it's from like the. prehistoric times yeah i saw that the. water turned into wine yeah. i saw i saw that. like you're from the jungle man that's. wild and dude i can tell you there's. like at least. six or seven myths in here oh totally i. have like fully shaved head. with without beer even the one when.

you're on ariel helwani you look like a. guy just on a boat you know like a guy. from like a um. you're like that fist hippie kind of you. know like. you got my head. i'm not worried about like that's one. another thing about me. i. i'm not worried about the way i look i. go by feeling like he doesn't matter. like who who i'm going to see or who i'm. hanging out with i don't change that. like. that's why i i told joe i'm a hippie. have you always been like that. when i was a kid. i guess it's different you can't really.

be a kid and be a hippie of course but i. used to when i was a kid i used to be. like cowboy boots blue jeans. jean shirt but because i because you. were on the farm i was on a farm yeah. yeah like i i would be in a farm every. week and so for me was like. that was the buy for me and i love it. like i i still having cowboy boots like. i like that but it's kind of hard going. surfing in the morning on cowboy boys. it's like yeah i got them flipped for. their birthday you don't show up to the. water with your homies and you're like.

with jeans and whatever like bro are you. okay you're like good day ocean yeah you. know what i'm saying yeah so it's kind. of it's hard to keep it up in cali but. they're there they're they're safe for. me. um when you were watching last night i. know that's that stamin fight and the. nurmagomedov of that guy that's a good. fight yeah and they say he's not related. they're related let's somebody's lying. these these guys are related yeah you. can't be the same name. yeah and coming into the ufc right there. no they're they're causing somebody's.

cause there's something there's. something. somebody definitely has seen somebody. naked in the family you know yeah um. when you watch that fight do you think. that there was anything else that cody. could have done to give himself a chance. or do you think that there was i. seen because i'm i'm uh i'm a [ __ ]. nerd i'm watching i know. all these guys i i watch them fight the. last couple fights and. cody i think. he tried too hard to wrestle but it's.

also i think like he don't it's not like. you need to like to be hit but you know. some guys get hit and they turn up like. for example moreno you can crack the. [ __ ] with a baseball bat and he. will fire back at you curtis simon get. crack in the face and he's almost like. he goes into panic mode like when he. fought jimmy rivera he was doing well. and jimmy rivera landed a big right hand. and he was like oh [ __ ] let me wrestle. you and then it's almost like fighting. is energy man like as soon as i crack. you and you only [ __ ] you it's like okay. let's i'm in a real fight but if you.

crack somebody and that person is like. you know what let's not do this you can. feel the energy oh you can oh percent. i've been there. many times and i've been here that i'm. like. [ __ ] you dude i'm gonna make your mom. cry right now is it hard when you get. hit say you take a good shot right. and you've been pretty i mean dude one. thing that's amazing about you you never. the only your only losses have been by. decision yeah thanks god unbelievable. but is it i i i credit that to my work.

ethic i created to the way i eat in and. out of camp i created that to my. recovery i go to bed. at 9 30 10 like last night after the. fight it was like 11 and everybody was. like okay time to party let's go to the. club i'm like i'm not celebrating [ __ ]. tonight right like what i'm celebrating. like yeah. and even like even me and moreno share. the same manager they asked me you want. to come to after party and wing lost or. draw i like him i respect him i'm like. yeah but. he's i wouldn't even train together like.

i went with the fights with my coach. we want to we want to straight back home. and i was like on sundays i do long. distance run like 13 miles so i was like. that's what i have to do tomorrow and i. set for it. but. the reason i feel i don't get a stop or. anything like that is just because i'm. my consistency and mentally i know. if i work like that. how somebody would just come and run. through me. so i skipped the same work ethic and he. paid the price.

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i live like that and i'm i'm always. thinking. i i sort of got to wake up every morning. thinking i'm gonna have a tough fight. coming up i don't i don't let none of. this. uh cloud or every fight you get to get. more known by the world i don't let none. of that come to me like i enjoyed school. i make money i i get bigger fights i get. a recognition i get to hang out with. people i i love but. fighters i think is the only sport. there's other ones but i think it's the.

only one that you cannot [ __ ] around. i know surfers that parry go hard the. next day they win a hit i know guys i. know soccer players they're [ __ ]. going crazy. doing coke doing whatever everything's. particularly sparring. they look [ __ ] bad diet whatever. sugar they look [ __ ] great. basketball i don't know no one there but. i'm sure you can drink a little bit. before the game oh i think a lot of. those guys i'm friends with blake. griffin and he said they had a guy on. his team used to smoke cigarettes before.

the game man see. fighting is too gnarly to [ __ ] around. fighting is too crazy. you're in a cage the energy is only one. against one like. it's too much. to risk. is there an animal that you ever see. that reminds you of you like a fight. like that reminds you of fighters or. that like i'm a monkey yeah a crazy. energetic monkey you've always felt like. that my whole life. when i was a kid i was really good. climbing trees like i would love to get.

in the top of the mango trees and just. chill that i would like sit on like on. the top of a route for like hours and. you just chill there like yeah dude the. abuse of [ __ ]. it's beautiful oh do they have and they. have do people do is monkey like a food. even in ecuador or no they know we just. eat cows and [ __ ] pork we don't. [ __ ] wrong we don't eat dogs we don't. need nothing nothing wild no. like if like if you go to the i heard. like a guy that used to work for me that.

they used to eat a snakes but. [ __ ] i think that's just more for fun in. one town in ecuador they eat something. called koi. it's basically it's red oh it's rat it's. like looks like a ride to me i am and. i've been in that town and they're like. you wanna i'm like no. oh it's delicious i don't give a [ __ ]. right a steak takes a leisure student. i'm sticking to that. i. i leave the kuya side i don't [ __ ]. around there yeah yeah you never seen a. cow in a in a dumpster you know so. that's the thing you know that's true.

too um. what were we talking about oh we're. talking about that fight do you think. that there was anything that stamin. could have done to get out to get in a. better situation i think when he hit the. single. it was almost like he don't hit the. single to take him down he was more to. don't get hit and that's why probably it. was just so easy to sing the choke and. let's be also honest those russians guys. came pretty prepared. he like a necktie right this this. nurmagomedov in a specific have a really. good spinning wheel kick so like he hit.

him he started fighting with two hard. ones like the moment somebody did that. to you. i saw he get hurt a little bit and he. kind of like was like [ __ ]. you throw that two to me i'm in your. face i'm like i'm gonna try to take your. head off right away because it's energy. like if somebody hit you that hard and. you kind of like. don't do nothing about it you let them. get a step ahead let them get a step. ahead. so no i do see what you're saying like i. mean i don't know i mean you know like. uh. but i know what you're saying like i.

always wonder yeah what the energy is. like in there because we just see the. fight you know it's hard to get a an. idea of what that mono-imano like it's a. conditioning you have to pretend. sometimes do you have to almost like you. have to keep this force field up even if. there's something that hurt do you have. to like keep an energy right there i'm. gonna say it's okay to be here like. we're not invisible we got. we're not meant for fighting but. once you decide that you're gonna be. your life the moment you get hurt you.

gotta either go for a walk you gotta. either step on the gas but you cannot. just try to avoid the fight because. your opponent will notice that no it's. you can't you can see the collars like. like like mortal kombat you know when. you get hit goes down it's almost like. you can sense that and. wow i'm really good at least with that i. can i can tell when my opponent. it's ready to die like he's a hard. [ __ ] guy or it's a guy that is kind. of like you know what.

you can take me out today i'm going to. live another day wow you do can tell. that because. you can be winning in a fight and the. other guy. lands one and then the guy that is. winning kind of wobble. you can see how that thing shifts like. whoop completely moving and. that's when you have to like even when. you hurt you you have to. learn how to fight the worst thing is. when somebody get hurt and start. swinging i'm like oh protect yourself. before you start swinging yeah but um. you know not everybody gotta. get the brain pretty focused at the. moment most people is fit but.

how many people is actually training. their minds to be ready ready especially. when they're in. real turmoil when they're really pained. out yeah like i've been heard before. i've i've been here like. in the head in the body i've been like. somebody threw a log and i feel my knees. like. completely dead and i'm like you gotta. figure it out you gotta make sure. you figure it out and. you can only do that if you're prepared. to be there like.

some people i see some people don't. really train him for a family why are. you doing this yeah go do something else. right why get your ass kicked in front. of the whole world. just because you're a [ __ ] lazy [ __ ]. who is the best fighter you ever trained. with that didn't train that hard do you. think cause you trained with some. interesting cats man yeah i i've been i. shared much with. really high level people. i think um. all the good guys i train with they ho. they. they all have a pretty sad mentality of.

like this is it for me like i'm not. i'm not going to in and out after. inspiring me right. and honestly with me. if you are a person that you're not. trying. to be on top of your game. it's almost like i stopped hanging out. with you like. i don't i don't i don't do it in a mean. way but i'm like if you're not. willing to be better and. leave the people around you. i'm just not interested in you like i. just literally i just want to get back i. just want to get better and everything.

in life like just be be a better person. be nice to people be kind you know you. can be a world champion and if you treat. like [ __ ] everybody i don't want to hang. out with you i don't want to be around. that [ __ ] because it's like. even if i'm not like that and i let you. be like that. i'm part of it so. in mo in all senses like i just want to. be around people that is happy and he's. just doing something to be better like. that because yeah because that is all. that'll only help you wow that's fine.

i don't i don't want to waste my time. like even if you are a famous person and. you're a piece of [ __ ] i'm like. i don't want to be part of that yeah. it's not worth it there's no reward on. that so. for me it's it's more about that than. anything else. when you look at like where you're at. now with fighting and you look at um. your division is there. is there a fight that kind of tempts you. as their fight like i know people talk. about cruz people talk about o'malley. people talk about um.

who's up there san hagen's in your. division isn't he yeah. i think. i think that was a fight to make i get. offered send hug in february 19 really. mainly ben and it never happened i. definitely don't think. he. run away from the fight he's a he's a. solid fighter but i think he's hurt or. something like that. so he may need more time he just had. that big he had a big fight against yon. yeah that was a great fight that was a. great fight but maybe he needed surgery. i don't know but.

when they offered me that. it didn't took me like a minute to say. like you send the contract. and then that never happened so. i don't want to waste time i'm ready to. go right do you feel like you get enough. fights and. yeah i fight three three times a year. normally this past year i did twice but. when you get to the point like you're. fighting like edgar all those guys. you can fight six times a year you're. fighting the top guys you have to use. way for the top guys right because.

there's guys that they're not ranked. like when i wasn't ranked the guys in. the top 10 don't want to fight me. there's no reward right and i get it. it's a business so i don't. i don't cry about it. it near end even when i when i was low. or when i'm high so now i just gotta. wait for a top five guy. or something that that makes sense and. what fight is ah what fight is still ha. because i don't even know if there's any. band and weight fights on the docket. right now are there no not right now. like i think uh. jaddong is fighting mariah's but they're.

below me anyway. uh. the only guys ahead of me is mirab font. sun hagen. aldo and cruz yeah and cruzy crying like. three four times already. he's. he you you guys aren't gonna fight you. don't think oh they call me they offer. us to fight multiple times he's an. interesting guy he's kind of like um he. reminds me of like uh he almost reminds. me of tom cruise the actor. because he like he's had a great career. you know he's had all these he's had a.

really illustrious career long career. and he's also this kind of like unique. mysterious kind of dude you know he. when i hear him talk he sounds. he sounds too smart like he tried to. like say. perfect things and be perfect and he. took his time. but um i don't know him personally like. we do the commentary he does in english. i got in spanish so we cross path often. and i call him out all the time but. i just keep it real when i see him i say. i say what's up you know if he said [ __ ].

you then i guess we're fighting right. he's not like that anyway but do you. think he wants that fight maybe there's. because it hit for him at this point. it's kind of what does he want to do. really for honestly a guy like that i'm. guessing he's just he's just one big. fight right but. you know. he he's coming off a win i'm coming off. a win i think makes sense because it's. just i think his number is six or. something like that he's not too high up. there. but they offer us to fight three times. already and he just declined it.

so when somebody declared that much i'm. not losing my time right you can't keep. calling it maybe it's just not what they. want no especially if maybe yeah you. know sometimes you don't know i guess. maybe what the fighter's plan is or what. their path is yeah that's why like i'm. i tell them like just just send me the. contract with anybody higher than me and. on its own like it's a striker or. wrestler and i'm training everything so. i'm not worried about. specific things. we had a question that came in here. right here um. [Music].

here we go. you can see it that good but you'll be. able to see it enough i think. oh we're gonna need the headphones for. this yes sir we can hear him for sure. what's up cheeto um. oh and theo cheeto theo dio chito i. don't know. uh i just wanted to ask this that fight. against sean o'malley every single time. i just keep talk not talking but hearing. about it and i have to keep talking. about how.

honestly you won the fight. so my question is. when are you gonna get the ballot when. are you gonna go for the belt to be. honest that's the real question. but uh no yeah honestly cheeto i'm a. huge fan um i think you just kind of. answered that really too i think even. just. like you were saying the only yeah what. would the path for you to get to the. belt be like i wonder. i i believe at the moment. if i get a fight with somebody in the.

top five i'ma fight away from there. because. either my fight with aldo even if i lost. that fight by decision. coming coming to the third round he was. pretty defeat he was very tired and. after that i get i get too cocky i get. too excited and i pay the price of that. i went too hard too fast he took my back. and he hold me there so. i will never sit down and it was um i'm. putting excuses like oh he just hold me. down no i'm right it's your. responsibility i'm the idiot that.

couldn't get out yeah and i put myself. in that position so i i just take it. like a man. and i definitely work on that i've been. uh. i took like six months working on don't. get hold in that specific position and i. i believe i figured it out even when. frankie took my back i was like out. quick. so. that was. something that i'm glad i i fixed and an. improvement yeah and after that aldo. went and kicked uh funds us. he beat up munoz pretty well so that.

just put me in a good position because. he couldn't do none of that to me. against you yeah so. that can set on set us up for a rematch. easily i feel. i can do a fight for tower elimination. with him or i can just fight somebody. like marab that is a a tough wrestler. nobody can beat him lately and he can. take you down and hold you down so if i. go in there and i just. put him out. like simple because no one called him.

out right for reasons. he's not popular. he's boring but he's effective he wins. right he don't talk [ __ ] but he wins. right so if i go in there and just. clean cut. put him out. stomp him yeah okay that that's how you. that's a crazy [ __ ] that you do and. people is like [ __ ] this guy's real. right because i'm not worried about. anybody it's not like some fighters are. like they have a path to the title. that is very well done like okay fight.

this guy he's a heavy puncher okay you. clinch him okay now you're fighting a. good grappler don't go to the ground. right i'm willing to fight. good or bad fights because i know one. thing if you're ready you have a chance. to put him on you have a chance to. get away with something i'm not worried. about the striker or the wrestler. because i i i do it all. do you ever sometimes you're in there do. you ever forget that you do you like. kicking or punching more that's when. sometimes i'm always wondering do these.

guys like to kick more or punch more do. you ever forget that. we'll answer that first you like to kick. or punch more. i like both like i don't like now that. i'm with perillo um he's a great boxer. i feel my punches are getting pretty. crisp and that just helps my kicks to be. better because if i can punch you i can. click. some people have no punching and just. kick right yeah but then when somebody. put a good comb on them they get clipped. so i feel like now that i've i get my. boxing my bass pretty good i can kick.

better than before just because i fix. little mechanics with him and. i feel like. i'm very complete now i feel like there. are things like people who want to take. me down now which. i train with one of the best people in. the world on the ground anyway so i'm. not even. i'm just not worried right like i'm and. there are things like some people is. very talented but then you can get them. tired. good luck trying to get me tired like. yeah just good luck with that yeah that. never happened it's not gonna happen. he's never happened before it's never.

happened probably since you were born. man i think. yeah because. yeah. i'm a very active person so i'm like. if you want to get me tired i can. guarantee you will get tired in the. process and it's just a mindset like. yeah i'm willing to get a heart attack. that's what i think when i'm running. when i'm sprinting when i'm sparring. like i'm just pushing the pace you're. willing to have a heart attack all the. time that's what i told myself when i'm. doing a sprint when i'm sparring. i'm a human i feel the same [ __ ] you. feeling. but i can control that feeling i can.

tell myself it's okay to feel like that. i just make friends with. with those demons and he's like wow i. just keep them close because. i can tell you. all the crazy [ __ ] in the world i can. lie to you i can tell you. [ __ ]. that my dick is bigger four inches more. than normal is but i will never lie to. myself so you gotta keep it real i have. the same feeling my chest is burning my. legs are tired my forearm are gas. but it's okay. it's just okay i like that idea of.

making friends with those things you. know you have to of keeping those demons. close yeah when i get to the part where. my heart's beating i'm just like damn i. might die but you say hey. i say that it's cool to feel dead and. just keep going wow what's gonna happen. have a heart attack that's not losing. you know what i'm saying yeah that's not. losing no no that's just one round is. when you break your leg right i'm not. saying i want that to happen to me but. if you kick somebody in your leg. snapping twice. you're not getting i they say tko but.

it's not like somebody right it's not. like somebody kicked your ass some. something really bad happened to you in. the process so when i'm throwing a kick. or a punch. that's a mindset i have i'm like i'm. gonna break myself through you yeah and. it works pretty good when you um. when. when you were in the o'malley fight did. you feel like. at the end of that fight that he had. given. when you got him on the ground you're on. top of did you feel like he'd given up.

at that point did it feel like that. because obviously he was injured like he. was injured and that happened the same. to uh cejuro happened to chandler right. before so. it happened to me but in my arm like. young lineker punched like a truck and. he punched me in the elbow and my arm. will numb. it's at this like i'm not a doctor but i. think like this if a nerve get affected. and you start like panicking your nerve. your season goes firing up so i was just.

telling myself like my arm was numb just. take my time just run around a little. bit clench him whatever my arm going. back to normal so i was just like it is. okay to have something like that right. to have that happen we actually sean. actually sent this question in and let's. see. is it okay if we play it i don't want. you to feel like we have to oh bro come. on okay cool let me see what he's doing. saying and look he's literally we just. put it he just sent it in through like. the regular channel he didn't send it to. me he just sent it i believe that. through the dropbox let's see what he.

say. cheetah what up bro it's your friend. chickashawn i'm just wondering if uh you. actually thought you won that one fight. uh let me know your thoughts i will theo. says he doesn't think it counted no no. got it. i did not say that it's cool like that's. another thing about me i won't get. offended by that [ __ ] oh i didn't say. but i i know you didn't okay but if you. were if you told me bro i don't think. you want to fight i'm like cool no i. just i was re-watching it the other day. and i was just i don't know what it's.

like to be in a fight like that right so. i was wondering if. if i'm. you know if i'm something happens to me. where i feel impaired right do i then. get into a situation where i. give where i'm just like it's i'm out. i'm going to live to fight another day. right or and then if you're in the ring. with them do you are you able to know. that you know when. when i when the fight started and i. started walking towards him like most. guys kind of like running away from him.

he's rendy and he can be clowney he come. like i dyed my hair colorful. many times too. we look funky and people sometimes like. because you have pink in your hair. you're not. tough or something that's your looks. like. um most people think. he's not training he's [ __ ] around. he's. just another fighter doing his job doing. whatever right people get full by the. way we act if you hear all the [ __ ] i.

say sometimes you would think i'm not. this person but it's just the easy way. i'm talking [ __ ]. 99 of the day yeah and most of the time. i don't mean none of that i'm just. talking [ __ ] right. people. get fooled by that like when i was when. i was fighting him and he was talking. i don't have one day that i sit down and. pay attention to anything i was like i'm. gonna [ __ ] see in the cage bro yeah. and i am the type of person that let's. see he pop up right now and he says. something i don't like.

i'm not sitting down i'm gonna [ __ ]. go and throw at him yeah like right away. yeah i don't have those issues so that's. why. this [ __ ] talking or promise. he don't give me or take nothing away. from me right it's just normal and. shawn's a real master of communication. he's a great like uh he's doing a good. job he's doing a good job he's a great. character he's a great character good. for him um like i'm not and fighter and. he's a great and he's a great fighter he. can fight but yeah did you feel like you. won at the end that was yeah i i wasn't.

mad or bog aboard the way he went i. kicked him in the leg. he should give up that wasn't an injury. during his angle that wasn't the same. thing that happened when he fought. sukanta. which. zukunta. if you're [ __ ] upon half a broken. foot why you take him down bro like why. you don't let him stand up and just kick. his ass. but. that's also what they call. being a little smart in the fight like. my opponent break his feet while you. take him down you're making him a favor. right just just just let him yeah.

and the referee will stop it. when i was walking him down. i found his energy. he don't he don't like pressure and most. guys. want to go too crazy at him i took my. time yeah like he throw punches but i. saw them coming he's very he's very. sharp with his hands but if you're calm. and cool you can see them coming you. know i don't close my eyes in there well. i don't think you close your eyes to. anything in the world it doesn't seem. like um. do you. have they pitched you that fight again.

yeah they offered me to fight him uh. when he fought in the mcgregor car. oh yeah i was at that fight oh against. that the the green hair boy yeah the. green airport man he never fought again. wow yeah that guy. he's still getting hit somewhere that. guy took a lot of hits yeah he can take. punches in the face yeah but that also. say. like if you punch somebody that many. times. you don't punch it at her right he he or. miley snappy i give him that but if you. punch somebody that many times.

that's a good point though yeah bro that. guy guy he punched him as many times as. you could punch somebody i don't think. you could punch somebody any more times. i don't know even if you knew somebody. their whole life and you didn't like. them i don't think you could punch them. no no no. that was awful that was an awful fight. i'm like. like what type of competition is that. and i think that's also why people talk. [ __ ] on him which i don't give a [ __ ]. what people say or not about him but. going back.

i think i won yeah um. i was happy with it but i also leave it. in the past i don't leave off that [ __ ]. right i don't give a [ __ ] who he is or. what he does for living. i move on they call me in. last last year you want to fight him in. july i was like. this is what this is what i did and this. is what my coach advised it was a good. point she's like chito you know you. fight. anybody like no problem. told ufc. to call him first. and see what happened.

they never call that game. so. and do you feel like um. do you feel like there's anybody else in. that. that's go like do you ever feel like. like because you kind of came in as. cejudo was kind of leaving out right. like yeah do you ever wish that you that. that would be a cool fight is there. anybody that's kind of like that was. right before your time or somebody that. you're like man that would have been. some not really not really like i don't. you just kind of live in the present. sort of yeah like i'm not thinking like. i we sometimes i wish i got to met guys.

that retired things like that in other. way classes but people that i could. fight i don't i don't really give a [ __ ]. like. favor at some point was trying to fight. me. and then kind of like. uriah yeah because you guys fought a few. times right three couple times no don't. fight y'all never fought i i fought at. his guy i [ __ ] up all of his guys but. he at some point he was like i want to. make a comeback and fight you who did he. fight a few times cruz now yeah cruz.

they fought three times didn't they now. yeah yeah he lost the person and. he won the first one. yeah one was in l.a when rocco fought. bisping. and their one was with the green muscle. fight with the the the second fight was. in the in the ufc with the green muscle. firing cage. um. yeah that's uh. you're right has that [ __ ] that dude. is his hands are so crazy um yeah he. broke both of his hands against mike. brown and now lizzy.

dude his hands are so his hands as they. they they. they're like the biggest thing i've ever. seen you almost got to use two hands. yeah but he's also four feet tall so. he's not gonna look bigger yes you know. what i'm saying maybe it's proportional. he's got some real mitts on him though. yeah he can play catcher without a. freaking without a mitt man he's got. some real mitts on him um. yeah so i guess it's kind of interesting. because it's like in your division it's. like how do you. because there's not even any fights. coming up so. do you feel like you're gonna have to.

sit and wait do you feel like you're. going to have to fight somebody that's. lower rank than you or what do you think. you're going to have to do because. there's not even any i don't think in. the next four or five cards there's even. a bantamweight fight on the uh on the. horizons. no. he's used them. he's just jam fighting starling in. april i believe yeah in florida. and then that's about it. i've been i i saw sean last night and i. was like hey man i want to [ __ ] i. know everybody break your balls before. they ask you for anything let me say hi.

shake his hand give him a hug i was like. did you have a date and don't give me. don't give me a name he's like you. fighting soon i'm like cool wow that's. all i need to know. because everybody wanna [ __ ]. bug his eyes like you're like. i don't have time for [ __ ] cry to. nobody i'm like hey just just say a date. he's like you're fighting soon. we cool. um. when you like what would you have think. of been if you hadn't been a fighter. when you think back on like what are you. really because you if you were working.

in that place doing the papers right. that's a pretty. i would i tell you this right now i will. never have a shitty job like that i will. have something cooler like that i. wouldn't mind being a farmer dude like. the daily work the fastest farmer you. would be the fastest [ __ ] farmer. yeah your work would be done i could see. like the ox would be out there and you. would be out there next to him you know. yeah yeah. i think i could work with my dad that. would be easy but i just like i i i oh. when i was a kid i always thought like.

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required. one per customer restrictions apply see. draftkings.com. sportsbook for details gambling problem. called 1-800 gambler does something. start to pop in your head as sometimes i. notice as i get older like something. kind of comes in my head like oh this. might be a peaceful thing to do later. down the line do you start thinking. about that like after fighting i mean. i feel like you still have a long career. um but yeah i'm i'm i'm just 29 so. there's for sure like i have at least. five gears that i can make myself a lot.

of fights i can make myself um. put in a good legacy make history and. just keep kicking ass but. i think about sometimes like what you. want for afterwards and i'm like. you know probably i'm gonna start. collecting. businesses or whatever me and my wife we. thought about it we wanted like at some. point when i'm opening like a like a. small cute coffee shop let's make it all. pretty put some art around. sell some some some some accessories.

whatever cool. we live in college so there's a bunch of. cool coffee shops and uh we've been. thinking for years like maybe one day we. open up one and we use chill that'd be. cool that'd be cool. i'm or you never know did you win a. fight and then somebody called you for a. movie somebody called you for a. something crazy. with life you you never know i always. tell myself just just keep being you. keep doing cool [ __ ] and things will. come up your way so. i'm not i'm not really too worried about.

it like i i feel some people is too. worried about. where where they want to go wow they. they're nerve focusing right now you. know what i'm saying that's me you're. talking to that guy really yeah a lot of. times yeah i just get caught like in. just worrying a lot that's why it's. really nice to be around you because. just like it's inspiring man to like. be seem so to meet someone who seems so. comfortable in the space that they're in. uh. it's in it's it's it's it's inspiring i. think it's uh i and i get this from you.

know there's a lot of people around like. joe rowan is a. perfect example like i've been listening. to him since before i moved to the u.s. and that's like. seven years ago. and you know seven years ago he wasn't. the [ __ ] guy that is now yeah but he. he always talk about it. you know it's almost when your boxing. coach told you back to basic work in the. job the job cross in life is also the. same thing like you can be.

desperate for what's coming or you can. be like thinking like oh i want to be. this i want to be this yes we got it we. all want to do something in life unless. you're a [ __ ] lazy piece of [ __ ]. but. but if you're really putting your energy. in something. it's just you know get the lessons from. the past. and [ __ ] enjoy today because. most. most people or some people they don't. have a tomorrow you know they're sick. with cancer. they. lost everything we don't know so i.

always tell myself if i if i have if i'm. alive i have a chance yeah and then. it's weird like i think that mentality. definitely was what took me here but. even when i was a kid. and i was having a problem at issue or i. wasn't getting something done. i just told myself there's always a way. there's always a chance just figure it. out like. when you do you miss being a child you. talk about being a kid a lot i talk. about being a kid a lot on on on this. show uh.

do you miss it like do you think it was. fun like do you have a lot of great. memories from being a kid i have yeah i. do have great memories i don't but i. don't want to be back i remember when i. used i was in high school and i was like. [ __ ] this [ __ ] i hate to be sitting here. to listen a [ __ ] person to telling me. two plus two is four. [ __ ] that [ __ ]. teacher and then everybody was like bro. when. when high school is done you're gonna. miss it so much. the day i graduated from high school i.

say [ __ ]. you and until today i'm like i don't. want to go back to that i was just not. made to be sitting down. and learning a [ __ ] equation yeah. which. that thing will do nothing for you like. they don't teach nothing. in a school. not for you not for a guy like you yeah. yeah yeah specifically i don't i'm not. talking normal people but but yeah i had. to do i do i remember doing steroids to. do math how to do steroids bro i'm not. even joking we used to do steroids just. to do you know and i would do math real.

good that year and. um but it's just like it just wasn't for. me like i was like. teach me something about life like teach. me how to. handle. what's out there in the jungle like. right this [ __ ] equation is not these. these not books are not gonna take me. out of problems like oh yeah i don't see. when i look at you i don't think i think. if i see a book and i see a jungle yeah. you're like the jungle you're the guy. looking at the kid looking out the. window being like i want to take on the. jungle most people don't think that way.

yeah well that's true too but they don't. but in any snr in life in any profession. you pick. you can keep the energy of like. don't get desperate on the goal. right be. beyond the process take care of the. process like it's all about the process. like if you do the process wrong. the recipe whatever. the end will be bad the taste of the. food will be but. your whatever your your goal was you. won't you won't get it done just because.

you were. you were thinking in something else yeah. like you cannot be thinking on on the. finish line if you're not doing nothing. in the starland yeah yeah that's true. huh. did you all have halloween growing up. over there did you guys have halloween. yeah. we don't it's not as hardcore as the u.s. like. you know every house is packed we got a. we definitely got a halloween party but. we don't have like the whole city giving. convention but we got some. you know some places uh-huh that some um. communities that does it but it's not.

like the u.s like. it's almost like christmas. did they have what's like a unique. ecuador holiday that they have that we. don't have is there something kind of. well new years and christmas for us it's. a full-on party really it's like music. whiskey and good food it's full on power. like christmas for and christmas for us. is we open the presents on the 24. night time when everybody's drunk the. 25th is just. play with the toys already open.

and mom and dad is hungover yeah it's a. little different there but it's fun dude. the food is great. similar food just with a different. little different stuff. like you know the turkey everything but. great food do you miss it do you miss. ecuador a lot you have i love awkward. dude like. i haven't been able to go since 2019 wow. because of covet i was going after each. fight to do. either a commercial or a picture for a. brand whatever.

because of coffee it's just you know we. haven't been able to go back was it. awesome to see that guy last night. morales i think his name a michael. morales michael morales wow dude he's an. athlete dude. like. he went and just threw a hate maker oh. wow he's a welterweight he's a big boy. but he's 22 years old like i remember. when i married to the ufc 21. so i cannot i can't i can relate it in. mind how he feels. you feel like. you're on top of the world we came from. a small country and i'm in the ufc since.

2014 yeah. 2022 we got the second one. so it's been a long time wow so. but that kid whatever he's doing. keep it up because he's doing well did. he reach out to you for any suggestions. or. he's. before the ufc. uh i think kind of like he the the. person now we have the same monitor but. like the manager whatever he have an. ecuador or his team they were like. tagging me every day on sunday trying to.

get you to see him and i was like i know. who he is. but there's nothing i can do like like. what do you want me to do like. you don't worry that but people. sometimes don't know right right yeah. they don't know they don't yeah i mean. why you want me to call dana and he. fights next week you don't work like. that right but. i the only thing i say is like just keep. it up like if you if you're doing right. by yourself you you will get there. and what i've been saying since. four three years ago is like if you want. to be in the ufc we don't have the.

sources in ecuador we don't have the. teammates we don't have. a solid team so. once you figure it out you win like. three fights. get the [ __ ] out go if you don't have a. visa go to brazil or go to mexico he. went to mexico with brandon and there's. like four other ecuadorians within. brandon's team i'm like. finally i remember people will talk [ __ ]. like what the [ __ ] you say echo or suck. i'm not saying that but we don't have. nothing there for us you don't have the. infrastructure they don't even really.

have it we don't have it do they have. gems now mma gyms it's get they have to. be getting a little bit better yeah this. is the thing we have good wrestling we. have good boxing we have. pretty good jiu-jitsu like. after brazil it's a quarter in south. america introduced. put it together good luck doing that. it's just it's a different game like i. can be due to world champion and still. getting choked down in the ufc it. happened to roll for vietnam yeah you. know what i'm saying like.

you have to put it together so if you're. a good wrestler. and you have a couple of fights. migrate go go and train with real. fighters we don't have that and. it's not like i'm happy that what i say. works but. all of the guys that left right they're. doing well one already made it and. there's there's a pair of twins that. they're [ __ ] good that. this kid i don't know him like i see him. last night i say good luck blah blah but. i don't i don't know him personally.

there are the twin kids they trade with. me before i left ecuador i know them and. they're close to make it. so i'm like. if you are. if you left the country and you make it. now. now i don't say [ __ ] you right you were. saying no no literally oh man i think. you were right well and also we're. talking about ecwid it's like the only. way to get people to talk about where. you're from if it's not extremely. popular is to get. to a place where people can see. you talking about that place right you.

know it's like yeah sometimes people are. like loyal to their town to a fault. you know you can't do that yeah because. it will only take you to failure like. like you cannot sacrifice your whole. life just because you say. my country's better than yours like. right i'm in the u.s like things will. never change i walk up to with my flag. all the time even when they say it's. fighting out it doesn't say it's. fighting out of california still said. those. small details were there forever right.

but i wouldn't be kicking frankie in the. face. turning in ecuador right i can guarantee. you that we got another question or two. that came in here let's bring up. something good here. [Music]. i um we just. oh my hair wasn't like that what's up. theo what's up cheeto in anticipation. for tonight what was your favorite. moment from ufc 271. gang gang gang baby and i think he means. 270 probably yeah you're in the future. bro yeah uh.

that was through dmt or mushrooms. like 271 who's. he's not even announced that look that. guy was there apparently it was like a. good time [ __ ] i wish we should facetime. him who wasn't very bad in that car. well for but but i can tell my favorite. moment from last night to 70. i definitely think when moreno woke out. that [ __ ] arena turn dude i've been. in many years and last night.

when he woke up it was like i thought i. was in tijuana yeah. i was like [ __ ] this is a lot of [ __ ]. mexicanos here i was like this is great. like. that you can feel like sometimes people. make noise but it almost feels like when. mcgregor workout. you know. it's just when he woke up he's huge so. he feels like. pretty dense that was one thing people. love him. and it's just you know it's like. people love him and meg i mean.

yeah mexican people don't get enough. credit in this country and mexican. people keep this country they keep this. going and. who bro every day people should start. the morning by just applauding. mexican people bro i don't know i do not. know. i don't know what would be going on if. there weren't for mexican people dude. and. that is probably. pretty up there and also. this country is made by immigrants yes. yeah people forget that over time you.

forget that it's always been that way. it's always been the way yeah like joe's. talks about like. his family came from italy like or or. stuff like that like. this country is is is it's a mix of. goods. yeah my father came from nicaragua. actually in uh. 20 no 1910. my dad was really old when i was born. but he came here in 1910 or no in 1922. he came here but he was born in 1910. but he came from central america here.

see it's all yeah the whole it's always. been that way but that's that's why. that's why they say. america yeah it's not. the usa it's. america's the [ __ ] continent like. south america central america like. these countries it got a little bit of. the best of everything yeah um yeah and. look and it's got opportunity you know. it just has opportunity um. and people will come off from anywhere. to get it what was there another great. moment from that that you enjoyed from. last night last night.

yeah what do you think of that other uh. the i'm thinking of the moreno the. outcome. i. is. i hate when i know the guys because i. want them to win and if i was so close. i think i think they could give it to. him. but also. um. what's his name figueretto was being. smart on don't throw first. because he will be counter pretty easy. so he was almost waiting for big shots.

and there was two different rounds if. i'm gonna run he'd touch him. and mourinho went down i think one of. them. wasn't a real. one one was a real knock down when he. put the choke and 10 seconds left. that choke was fully sync so that was. really scary was he saved by the bell. you think there. maybe. i we have to say yes because he was like. he couldn't scramble now but it was. fully on and then. he ran out of time so that was a good.

thing for moreno. but then there was one that he get. touched with a job and he. went to the ground but he was more like. odd balance but we don't know that it. can be a real knockdown. and then. i think the referee i think it was. three to two maybe because of that but. moreno put more and since i was there i. saw. uh figuero. pretty hurt more than once like almost. ready to go down but i.

i just feel like. mourinho was being very patient if you. if you were to step in the gas i think. he could finish him. and do you think that's something that. you learn as a fighter if you're in. there like not to like to be careful of. your counter punches like sometimes you. you learn like oh. when i counter or when i punch first. they're countering better like. especially the last fight like like uh. figure came pretty strong and mourinho. just countered him until he just took. him down and finished him and this time. he he wasn't that aggressive he was.

waiting more from ren and those low. kicks also. were pretty heavy. it was an exciting fight it was a great. last 20 seconds before they just said. let's go they went max holloway ricardo. llamas they point to the ground say [ __ ]. you. it was a great fight dude it was a great. fight. the whole crowd was bowing heavy so. if you if it will be a clean decision. there i don't think the crowd will will. boot that bad. i i felt like that i felt like if it was. a ti i feel like they may should maybe. just made it a draw.

exactly like they make the first time. like a draw would be great but. being a judge is a shitty job i i know. they sometimes like they make oh like. that wasn't. like that could go to moreno but. sometimes they make some decisions. you're like which fight you were looking. like yeah like that but like the whole. world gets crazy on it yeah and. but being a judge is a cheating job and. none of those guys. are martial artists none of those guys.

have a full background that's crazy. isn't it. most of the. there's one referee the one judge that i. got to talk to him and i asked him like. like where you came from like like right. what you know about mma he's like yeah. i'm a boxing referee i'm like. oh you're [ __ ] then who isn't a boxing. referee yeah i'm like so everybody here. yeah like you have to separate no. headbutts and i guess no not big punches. and they're not clinching of course but. but that's just like crime like i feel.

like if you go on trial for murder or. something. the people in the box should all be. murderers you know the jury. because at least then they're going to. be able to be like oh yeah he did it or. didn't if you're getting somebody that. works at a bakery or something they. don't [ __ ] you know what i'm saying. like and yeah yeah the way. love works so. it's crazy like. like just thinking about like. it's just random people saying. innocent. like. what the [ __ ] is going on like.

they're working like. the judges better is better than putting. that fake hair that they used back in. the day and make a movie about it yeah. bro it is crazy the system seems a. little crazy but i don't know what else. we would do maybe let a machine do it. you know. yeah well elon musk can figure that out. yeah maybe he will like you put it your. tom prince is guilty and then you get. your your head chopped. you know some guys would be scared to. put that down i know even the the the. lie detector nothing don't work that.

thing looks horrible it looks so rickety. it looks like you wouldn't even start. your car you know i'm like this thing. looked like a piece of [ __ ] you know. i the season is pretty [ __ ] up the way. things work but. somebody had one in our neighborhood. growing up had a lie detector test and. then we were always using it and [ __ ]. and it did it didn't do [ __ ] it didn't. work no people would be like i remember. asking they would ask one the kid like. are you smart and he said yes i'm smart. and we're like that dude's a [ __ ]. idiot. that thing doesn't work i think i think.

we can use that on the mind yeah. we'll see man. is it interesting that the guys like uh. sean creates such a um do you get is it. hard not to try and become that kind of. energy i notice it in my own world like. i noticed some guys have bigger. personalities so sometimes i'm like do i. need to get a bigger personality um. [Music]. is it does it get tempting to try and uh. well for me it's like i think also is.

where you are in life like. i. i get to the ufc. with a wife and a kid right now i have a. wife a wife and three kids so. i don't have time to go home and play. video games for five because. i got a personality i can talk to. anybody i can. you can switch up with one of those guys. and we can have a cool conversation. i can talk [ __ ] i can say. funny funky [ __ ] but when i get home. i want to play a little basket with my.

son i want to take my daughters to get. an ice cream i need to take my wife. somewhere so i don't get the time i. don't have time to twitch right i don't. have time to. to do all the [ __ ] right so yeah it's. just a different it's i'm using a. different place in my life yeah like if. i would be a single guy. i'll probably be doing every single. thing i can do because i can feel like. let's see a couple months ago my wife. took the kids to palm springs for for. two days with my mother-in-law. and i was like holy [ __ ] i didn't knew.

that they got so many hours. i would come back home and sit down for. six hours and be like what the [ __ ] i'm. not used to this i don't even feel good. about it even if i have time to rest. because i gotta we got a full schedule. drop the kids in high in in high school. in the school go to the gym come back. pick she go pick up one i go pick a door. go to my second practice of the day. put him to bed go to bed around 9 10. wake up. run early morning.

drop somebody in the schools so it keeps. going you keep going that's your world. but like guys that don't have. the responsibilities that yeah they can. they can open what they can do like. that's that's why i put everything into. training to win fights i don't got time. to be a comedian or an actor. and i know i'm a funny person i know i. can talk [ __ ] yeah i know concocts and. jokes but. there is just not the time i could see. down the line i could see you doing it. afterwards though maybe getting into. like commentating or something you know. yeah and i do the commentary already.

yeah i do for hispanics oh that's cool. man i've been doing it for like five. years oh wow that's amazing. so like i can i know i can do more [ __ ]. at the moment. it's one goal be a world champion and. just kick ass. there's. i a friend of mine used to say oh it's. like you cannot read three books in one. day so pick one. learn from it and then move into another. so like. i'm just i'm just busy.

damn man yeah well this has been quite. the novella man i'm trying to think if. there's any other uh any other question. that came on colin you want to throw up. oh i like that shirt. oh yeah this guy hey come on. theo what the [ __ ] is going on bro. um my question for uh chito is. cuales. que master. theo you should probably already know.

spanish from that one uh friend that you. had back in school so gang baby. yeah that uh that spanish question man. what did he ask yeah he asked me like. which is the fight that make me the most. proud. i or like or my i guess my biggest fight. i think when i went to london and fought. brad pitt. in 10 days notice was. pretty huge for my life. just because. how everything was planned out i was. coming off elbow surgery. i was fat.

i was. i would call depressed i wasn't able to. show up to the gym in the la in the past. eight weeks. i had. really couple grands in the bank account. i i it was the first time. it was when we just moved for network. with my family because i came for a year. alone. train win a fight. have some money to flew my whole family. and then. i brought my family in.

got the elbow surgery. and then i was sitting down in my couch. for. like seven weeks there's nothing if you. have a. elbow this big there's nothing you can. do so the moment the doctor cleared me. to start um to start running. and. basically lifting but just from my waist. down. i was i was running. every day but not not long distance i. was running heels to get my heart rate. hard like i basically become a camera.

and hence for like four weeks yeah and. then i was squatting as much as i can. and. i wasn't in fighting shape but i was in. survival shape i was like. i was i was doing every day something. really hard with my legs. and then i was like [ __ ] my bank account. it's drained i don't get nothing but you. had to take it no ah thousand percent so. my money called me is like hey bro like. uh some mexican guy got hurt is bread.

picker returned me and fight and i was. like. bro send the [ __ ] contract like. tomorrow like now. so. i was and i was heavy because i i wasn't. doing nothing so i was like waiting like. close to 160. and then. they told me 135 you have to make their. way i'm like i die making the way if i. have to so we flew to london. and i was basically eating. one egg. couple asparagus. and three gallons of water oh my gosh.

man that was it and then back then i. didn't have the nutrition i have right. now back then was using the coaches my. manager and we're like just trying to. figure it out i was like uh what should. i eat um order the neck yeah with the. sparrow okay cool. and then we started away cut i dropped. like. close to 18 pounds. i was dead i was dead but i was broke so. i knew i have to do it. and then i get to 1 40. and i was like they asked me how are you.

doing like let's just keep going. and then we gotta call hey brad takes. okay 140 because he don't want you to. pull out if you pass out and then he's. not fighting his retirement fighter. oh so they met you at 140. we met at. 140. i was like cool [ __ ] it. dude walk into the cage. i was. angry i was like a madman i was like i'm. gonna kill this guy like and could you. smell people eating stuff in the stands. or not. a little bit yeah like they were saying. networks and [ __ ] you you.

you will die but it was just like brazil. but in london yeah. you're fighting home time boy right. there yeah. and i was like. i was telling myself the only thing i. was thinking walk into a cage you lose. your fight you're going to send your. family back to our girl you win this. fight. you have. you don't you're not set for life. you got a year in the u.s to figure it. out and keep going because. i had like four grand walk into that. cage yeah.

i was telling myself. this is gonna have to kill me like. there's no [ __ ]. turn around for me i don't want to go. back yeah i don't want to be a loser and. go back home like what happened i. couldn't make it into yours yeah. can it work for you can i clean your. house bro yeah can i be over here. there's no. accepting the [ __ ] going back. and it was a hell of a fight i think. that fight. teach me a lot about yourself about life.

like what you can do when you need to do. it wow that's way now that i. i in a way have it all. like not. in. values stuff learning material [ __ ] but. i just like all my happy kids are good. wife is good. we live in cali we own houses like i'm. just i remember that. and just to keep a strong the rest of my. life like i used. i think people get. softer cocky or careless when they made.

it to some point. i keep the segmentality. just. my kids can learn that one day yeah. because if. they won't remember. that in 2017 they don't know my mind. they were babies so i need to keep that. mindset for them to learn how to live. like this when they're 15 20 because if. i become a little soft [ __ ]. they will see that yeah mindset is so. it's so key with so many fighters man. it's so interesting especially in your.

life man um this will be my last. question where did you meet your wife at. fourth grade. damn boy that's a little great little. creepy boy. that's early papa i know i know. who didn't touch each other till 14. so. it wasn't that's a little bit more legal. but damn boy fourth. yeah we made we made early we were in. this we were in separate classrooms. but. she always told me like i like using. something i'm like you should say.

something i was ready back then. but i was i was worried about this back. then. and did you go on a date or something is. that in like in ecuador would you take a. girl on it what was that kind of like. [ __ ]. when we were young it was. it was morally going to the movies or. or just visit her at the house go for a. walk or something yeah or you know i i. was a troublemaker so they wouldn't. her her mom wouldn't let her grow up. yeah a lot.

i i they put me in jail twice for. fighting in the street. so. didn't every time she was around me. their mom was like hey be careful like. like she gets you for valentine's bail. money probably. yeah every time. i'm sorry i lose it all there. yeah like i was. um i said thank god i found something. that kept me disciplined because. i only find ways to get in trouble. growing up like there. got kicked out of high school. just just looking for turn something on.

fire it was just it was just trouble or. trouble over trouble and there was no. [ __ ] stuff on that that's why. you're right where you need to be i'm. right where i need to be somebody if if. if nobody will put me in a cage. i'll be [ __ ]. i don't know where it'll be bro even my. all my friends are all dumb they're all. [ __ ]. it's all [ __ ] around. oh yeah yeah. we will [ __ ] parry. since wednesday yeah i will show up to.

high school drunk yeah it was just dumb. [ __ ] you were meant to be in a cage kind. of in a weird way huh a hundred percent. a hundred percent i know that and i love. it yeah i love it well man you have a. you have a beautiful life man it's been. really interesting to get to know you. it's amazing so many people really love. you uh. you know you're really beloved it feels. like in the sport and um i'm just. grateful for your time and it's really. inspiring to me where i'm at in my life. right now just appreciate it thanks for. having me dude i i've been following you. for a long time you're a funny cat well.

thanks man i try my best man uh and i. hope to get to check out your next fight. man um hopefully soon yeah best of luck. brother appreciate you man thanks for. having me. now i'm just floating on the breeze and. i feel i'm falling like these. [Music]. oh but when i reach that ground i'll. share this piece of mind i found i can.

feel it. [Music]. a little time. for me to set that parking brake. and let myself go. that light on me. i'll sit and tell you my story.

[Music]. [Music]. and now i've been moving way too fast on. the runaway train with a heavy load of. my. head. and these rails that i've been riding on. they want something that they're damn. they're. gum.

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