Lainey Wilson | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #430

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tonsils baby she's just. I mean shh. she has a Timeless voice. it sounds like it just comes out of the. core of the Earth. and just pumping it. it's just like a beautiful train just. rolling three years she's got it. she won the female vocalist of the year. at the 2022 Country Music Awards. she's also an actress you may have seen. her on the show Yellowstone her new.

album bell bottom country is out now and. uh I'm just. I'm grateful to be spending some time. with her getting to know her. today's guest is Laney Wilson. [Music]. tell you my story. [Music].

[Applause]. yeah when things get busy it's. interesting how they get you don't know. who you're talking to you don't know. what you just did a line or for you. don't know what's going on it's crazy. and I'll I'll like thought people were. kind of full of it when they're like I. don't I didn't know what city I was in I. didn't know what day it was yeah it's. true. oh sometimes I'll be halfway through the. statement uh what's up and I will have.

to check in my head do you know what. this is there's times where I all day. long I'm like all right I'm in Salt Lake. I'm in Salt Lake I get up there and I'm. like. where am I you know. yep yeah it's kind of it definitely gets. it can be kind of challenging I think. just because of how quick things how. quick things happen and how busy you can. get. um can you move this a little bit in and. down. yeah but you can also move it if you. feel like I want you to feel okay yeah.

oh look if you want to let loose. something I can unscrew oh I love it I. love your voice. thank you yeah it's really nice thank. you very much um it's a gift I feel like. to the whole world I'm sure a lot of. people feel that way I feel like when. you're singing like somebody's singing. from like. I feel like somebody's singing from the. past I mean I feel like it's coming from. like yeah I just feel like they're it's. like coming from another. I'll take that thank you like plain or.

something I'm like it's almost like. sometimes I feel like I was born in the. wrong decade really yeah I mean who. knows what I was doing in a in a. previous life but I yeah I've kind of. have some weird feelings like that too. so yeah yeah like do you think of a time. like do you feel like there's a time. like. do you get a sense of what is going on. around you at that time if it was a past. I mean. I don't know what it was. um. but I do feel I do feel like a little. bit of an old soul. I don't know I don't know if it's which.

I have some family members and stuff who. I think kind of feel the same way so. maybe it's just something like a little. thing kind of passed down but yeah I. wonder who I was who was that yeah who. were you who were you oh I know who you. could have been you could have been like. a trained conductor but before they had. a whistle so you had to also be the. whistle so you had to be like uh-huh. like you had to really belt it out you. know I'm just trying to think of. something where you'd also have to be. like real verbose and like let them know.

you know yeah. and what if people would have come or. what if somebody else was a conductor. and you just were you were the horn like. they didn't no I was a caboose don't. even play I was I was the Caboose I have. seen some videos on tick tock. without. people really coming for that romp huh. coming for The Romp I'm like I've been. in Nashville for 12 years trying to do. music and here we are the butt goes.

viral and I mean they they find the. music through the butt and they plan on. sticking around but. it's uh yeah I'm trying to embrace it. yeah nothing will keep a man around like. some bud I think that's right that's. right I'm like whatever whatever makes. them listen to the music yeah hey look. sometimes they start with the bass. section you know before they get to the. trouble you know that's yeah that's. exactly it I think that's all it is I. think that's all it is too I mean I. didn't know how to feel about it in the. beginning I was like. I thought it was gonna be just this. little little tiny viral thing and next.

thing I know weeks later I'm still. seeing. big old butts yeah what was that can you. pull that up uh Ben. if you find that Tick Tock I don't even. know I just remember seeing that it was. like um. some yeah it was like a side angle if. you want to stage and and then with the. leopard pants yeah now that'll probably. be it was like an optical illusion I. don't think my butt's really that big I. think it was the leopard I mean maybe. the leopard had a big butt oh my God. that is see wow that was that was a good.

day. also this is a wide screen let's be. honest I mean look I'm just saying y'all. doing me dirty this is 16.9 baby I think. whatever that is. you got that Silver Screen rear dang. that thing is uh it's out there yeah. that cheetah must have been strong. what's what's weird is people like. where'd you get that from and I say I. get the the width from my mama and the. depth from my Daddy really my Daddy's. got a he got a little booty on it does.

he yeah yeah. I used to date a girl actually and she. had her father's butt oh my God yep and. it was always like I don't know it was. so hard for me sometimes to. like want to mate with her sometimes. because you're just thinking about her. father's day I wasn't thinking about her. father but it was like a very distinct. looking buttocks you know I gotta say. this girl's butt I mean she was. beautiful but she had she had her. father's butt kind of I think I mean I.

don't know I shouldn't even say that I. don't know what was going on she. listened to this too and she knows. exactly She's like Yeah he talking about. me I hope not. um. congratulations on on your uh two top. you have two songs in the top ten right. now right which is crazy but it's about. trucks yeah both about trucks like a. truck I know so so uh. yeah I mean it's just amazing and you're. I just want to start like because some. some audience might not know you right. so I want to start well let's look at. this Tick Tock let's look at it real.

fast all right because there's a bunch. of them I want to see it again and who. is that guy I don't know but there's a. lot of different versions. oh yeah. yeah this was opening for Morgan this. past summer I had been eating real good. this summer you know hey come on. yeah they look like frog legs almost. right there with those pants in a way I. don't know if you know what I'm saying. well you look lovely that's awesome oh.

my gosh that's the security guard down. there in the corner he like oh he's. still writing letters to you oh yeah. he's probably in a minimum security. facility right now. um you are originally we're both from. Louisiana I know that's cool different. parts of Louisiana but yeah you're up. from you're from I'm from Northeast so. like about 30 miles south of Monroe okay. a little town called Baskin of like 200. people oh wow you're from Covington area. yeah I'm from Covington so and Baskin is.

that near because I used to work up near. Natchez I worked on a farm in outside of. Natchez up near like not today matches. and Vidalia and inferiority yeah we had. a good time over there Alexandria yeah. we go to like where is it okay there we. go Baskin dang that's it my God yup yup. there it is you blink and miss it we. have a a caution light and what's the. caution for is what if somebody is there. a miss somebody who missed it is a speed. trap when I tell you if you go through. Baskin you better slow down oh God I got.

my first speeding ticket. at 15 years old and Baskin I had to go. to court of course there's nothing for. them to do they have to give you. attention well we got to do we go gotta. pay the bills. but yeah I've been in Nashville for. almost 12 years. um got here August 1st 2011. in a little camper trailer did you yep I. lived in a camper the first three years. I was here. and uh I'm just too hard-headed to leave.

honestly I don't know how to do anything. else this is it yeah is singing now do. you sing do you also play and you play. instruments yeah yeah I play the guitar. I can play a little bit of piano by ear. but um. yeah I love it my daddy taught me a few. chords on the guitar and wrote my first. song at nine years old. I knew I mean my family took me on a. trip when I was nine it was like a. couple weeks after I had written my. first song and we were driving back home. to Louisiana and we drove through. Nashville I remember where I was on the.

interstate I was looking at the Batman. building and I told my mom and daddy I. said this is home I just knew it really. I knew it I knew that I was going to be. a part of of this industry I just didn't. know when or what that was going to look. like and yeah this is that has always. been a plan wow. um and so when you're starting so you're. a child and how do you get into music I. mean obviously Louisiana there's a lot. of like music passing through there. that's right you could have a you know a. sip of of a local hose and you'll you.

know you you might have a couple notes. just get laws genuine it's definitely. it's in the world there what uh how did. that kind of start for you I mean did. your mother or father play Daddy played. a little mama bless her heart she can't. carry a tune in a bucket I'm talking. about like she sings the loudest in. church like even Jesus getting mad about. that he's like looking down like that's. of the devil that's up the devil. um but she loves music she loves to.

dance. um on both sides of my family I have. people who play like musical instruments. and stuff but in Baskin I mean country. music is more than just a genre it is. truly a way of life and so growing up. you know listening to a lot of 90s. country I just we eat sleep and breathe. it yeah we talk about music we'd sit. around if I was riding the tractor with. daddy like that's what we were listening. to and it was really a soundtrack. to our lives. and so I I didn't even realize as a. little girl that country music was like.

a genre of music I thought it was just. you know best music I should see it yeah. wow. that's interesting and what about for. you down there. well what I'm trying to think of the. first song I ever even heard I think was. Bon Jovi. yeah and I was lit like uh this. babysitter was giving me a ride to YMCA. Camp and she played it and I'd never. been like in a car like with a woman. before that wasn't my mother and so I. think it like everything seemed so like.

real yeah yeah yeah so my memories were. like very alive you know and so I just. remember being there and. she let me put her seat belt on or I. remember it oh my gosh because I think I. was like a I was like you know we got to. be safe we gotta be safe let me buckle. you up yeah so I think she put mine on. and I was like oh let me put yours on. you know and then when I put hers on I. was like kind of close to like her body. and so I remember like oh man so then I. was like let's put yours on again right. I just remember I kept like let's. unbuckle we didn't do this the right way.

let's do it again so I put a receiver on. like seven times and then finally she um. we start driving and she put on Bon Jovi. and I just remembered hearing that was. like the first song I ever heard really. um. the first time I ever heard a woman sing. that I remember I was in high school and. they had I'm sure I heard stuff on the. radio but. um some girl in our talent show at. school played like a jewel song Oh yeah. and it was like.

dude I like didn't even know what was. going on like I was like mesmerized oh. mesmerized. it was just like because I never it just. was so beautiful it was like it was like. a woman just sitting there playing the. piano and singing and it was oh yeah I. fell in that feeling yeah did you play. in like talent shows and stuff at school. was that I mean what was school I mean. if 200 people are in town how many were. in school I had to go over to the town. next to me okay um there was a. elementary school in Baskin and my mama.

taught there my granny was a principal. and. um but even going over to the town next. to me I mean I still I only graduated. with 24 kids and that was one of the. biggest classes they've ever had wow so. you know everybody everybody knows you. and it's like the the best thing and the. worst thing you know yeah. they'll be there no matter what but. they'll be there no matter what right. right yeah it's so small I guess huh yep. like did you so was was I guess it was. the kind of town you probably had to. have like a boyfriend from like a young.

age was it like that kind of town yes I. mean I dated the same boy for seven. years wow that's so popular in those. type of communities I know it really is. and now like when I see like if I have a. songwriter buddy or whatever if he's got. like a daughter and and I've realized. they've been in this relationship for a. long time I'm like tell her not to do. that yeah like Let Go sew some Wild Oats. you know like at the end of the day you. might end up together right but there's. a big old possibility that you were. gonna change you're gonna be a. completely different person I mean I'm a.

different person than I was five years. ago so. you just change yeah 100 and so did you. go to like prom was it like all of that. like it was like all the same boyfriend. huh yeah wow well there was one year. where uh we had broke up for a couple. months and I went to five proms that. year at that point I was just asking I. was like anybody need a prom date I'll. go with you but. um so I want to go back a little bit to. like just like when you were growing up. like what was it like like was it uh so. your mom worked at the school yep and.

what'd she teach over there um well she. taught second grade for a while and then. she taught the gifted and talented. program she did and so she loved that. um and my daddy he's a a banker and a. farmer he does like crop loans for. farmers and. um Farms corn wheat soybeans oats. I mean they had us doing stuff all the. time. it's crazy how much like growing up on a. farm taught me just about life yeah in. general I mean you get up every day I.

mean even when it comes to you know what. you do you get up every day you. roll your sleeves up you have good years. you have bad years oh they have several. it's a tough that is a tough business I. mean some a tornado could roll through a. flood a locust anything out the second. half of the Bible all of that comes. through it does and then you gotta worry. about the the all the loan side of it. the financial side of it that's right. yeah I remember when I would work on a. farm we would get up yeah we'd roll out. at like 6 30.

and people were like yeah you just eat. like gas station food until you got to. lunch and then lunch was kind of a big. if you had a nice deal unless like you. were planning then you had a pretty. decent lunch oh yeah and when I got home. I literally I remember laying down was. the first time I ever just and then just. woke up the next day it was like oh you. were tired I was tired yeah yeah it was. nice I know we used to like during the. Summers when I was too little to. actually help do anything daddy would. never let me plant because he knew I'd. mess that up but he would let me disc up.

the fields and stuff like that but we. would take food out to the field and let. the tailgate down and kind of that would. be our little picnic table and have all. the farmers come out and. it's it's a a good childhood memory yeah. I bet yep. do you remember. um. like having like a real. like like connection to any female. singers when you were young like was. there anybody that really was like I.

mean Dolly Parton oh yeah everything. about the woman I mean. just the way that she carries herself I. feel like she don't let anybody run over. her. um she kind of tells it how it is with a. like a little bow wrapped on top you. know yeah she's just incredible. singer-songwriter I've actually never. even met her really but um I think I. could I've learned a lot from her by not. meeting her so I can't imagine how much. I would actually learn from her if I sat. down with her and. yeah some advice I mean that would be.

absolutely insane but yeah her. um and I love Leanne Womack I love I. just love 90s country. um everybody from. Shania to Reba to Trisha Yearwood like I. feel like those Faith Hill those were. the voices that. were around yeah. what did Leanne Womack sing I Hope You. Dance oh yeah the fool I remember the. first time I heard I hope you dance I. was in sixth grade and.

my teacher came in with a little Boombox. on her shoulder and she played it and. even in the sixth grade I remember how. that song made me feel and I was like. whatever this feeling is like I want to. make other people feel that way wow. that song yeah music's so wild like that. I I realized that in the past year that. a lot of music it's like. you sometimes you can't put into words. what you're trying to say right and a. song will do that it's like it it's like.

uh it's just such a gift because it'll. do that for you it's crazy yeah I mean I. have a hard time completing you know. full sentences but I can write a dang. song like but I bet I don't know if out. of bask and if y'all could if everybody. would have got together in a meeting if. y'all could have put a sentence together. no no no but I don't know I'm just. saying Louisiana dude you know how it is. oh bro you will see it I mean there were. I remember one kid turned in a paper and. had no punctuation in it one time in our. class that sounds about right and the. teacher even showed it to everybody.

she's like I've just never seen anything. like this I mean that's how we talk yeah. right how we talk. but I love how I mean there's so many. different like dialects and stuff in. Louisiana I feel like from where where. you're at it's way different than where. I'm from oh yeah where you guys it's a. lot more farming up there yes it's a lot. more I feel like. young gestation I want to kind of say. like you know a lot more youthful people. get you know pregnant and blaming it on.

God but really they're seeing somebody. that's right you know I feel like. there's a lot more. um just kind of secret like I don't know. what I'm trying to say no I agree I feel. like south Louisiana folks kind of just. leave it out there yeah what you see is. what you get and for some of the north. Louisiana folks too it's that way but. there's also a little bit of that like. we're gonna act like it ain't happening. kind of thing. yeah I act like the Lord's and really oh. yeah. the Lord made me cheat he he asked me to.

you know. and the Lord bought me another drink. because Lord he did it he spoke to me. yep I've been there. yeah I'm trying to think of um do you. remember going so if you went to like a. high school dance where'd you go to that. at. um at the school at the I mean we got. that like Winnsboro or something where. were you guys in Winnsboro winsboro. Winnsboro that's where I went to school. yeah we used to go I think to a grain. elevator there I'm trying to think what.

did we do there we went oh yeah there. was grain elevators was there oh yep. yeah when I was working on that farm we. would go up there to drive maybe it was. to work uh something like that yeah we. go to Winnsboro there's a big old grain. elevator right there in the middle of. town across from the Walmart. yep Deer Park where else would we go to. I don't remember. um not many people know winsboro so I'm. surprised that that's why I didn't even. say oh yeah. yeah that's wild. um well we go up there yeah sometimes. they're like I feel like that was it I.

don't remember that well. but it was fun man yep I enjoyed it one. time I was because it always I was just. like a a hand you know on the farm so I. would just do whatever yeah and uh one. time I had to paint this house and I was. worried about the bees getting me right. because they had a lot of bees out there. so uh yeah there you go right there. green elevator baby that's it put that. grain away boy. [Music].

um. and so I put I made this visqueen suit. right out of like this queen and duct. tape right yeah so I got on the slider. and I'm painting and these bees are like. hitting me and I'm just like Invincible. right but what I don't realize is the. heat it was probably maybe 94 or. something oh shoot so suddenly I start. to see like at the bottom of my like. these like feet I made on the suit. because I went really in on this suit it. was pretty nice there's just like water. kind of pouring out of it like where. where does water and and then I just. realized I was just losing water yeah. and uh and it was bad man they put me in.

a tub of ice at launch and oh my gosh. people were scared yeah and you guys. praying I'm like dude call the police. pray bro you don't say like I respect. the prayer but also text 9-1-1 this. guy's lighting candles and stuff call. 911 yeah. so we had a little bit of a different. plan. you know I like keeping my hair you know. that I'm a hair boy. and I'm a hair man.

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more information. um do you remember like going to like a. high school dancer like being in love. when you were young like what was that. kind of like a [ __ ] show yeah yeah it's. like a drama like I thought that's how. it was supposed to be you know like you. fight for each other no you don't oh. yeah yeah you don't have to fight for. each other really you really don't. and it took me a long time to to realize. that but uh that's kind of the mentality.

in some of those you know small towns oh. yeah I think there's so much like. um. I'm losing all my words today but. there's like a lot of stuff that's kind. of romanticized so it's like you know we. gotta do this I got a tiger by the tail. let's go you know. so yeah. um it was but high school for me was. it was fun. um I will say that I'm not friends with. hardly any of the people that I. graduated with just because we're living. completely different lives I might there.

might be another person out of my. graduating class that's not married with. kids. um right were you a loner. no I wasn't a loner like I had like. girlfriends and stuff like that and. um but man just like we were talking. about earlier like people change things. change and sometimes you figure out who. people really are. and it sucks yeah. um. but I will say looking back on it now.

um I wouldn't change it for anything if. anything it kind of gave me that boost I. needed to be here in Nashville because I. might still have you know oh man I need. to go I need to go back there and and. hang out with my with my girls and you. know having those ties or still dating. that same old boy yeah it kind of gave. me that push of like no you get out. there and you and you start your own. life like I spent a handful of nights in. my bed last year here in Nashville wow. so so you're on the road that much then. every between that and filming.

Yellowstone and. um. yeah we are on the we're on the road a. lot but we're trying to you know burn up. the road strike when the Iron's hot and. go take advantage of this viral. Tick-Tock ass thing going on is that. really what you feel like is kind of I'm. just fighting okay but it's a little bit. it's interesting how you get onto. people's Radars it's so hard to get onto. people's Radars I know I know what kind. of stuff do you follow on tick tock oh. my gosh.

um I followed like a few of my friends. like my songwriting friends Mega McCree. been Chapman I love looking at their. stuff. um but I follow like stupid stuff I love. like watching people fall down I love. um I love watching like little puppy. videos you know it depends on what kind. of mood I'm in and every now and then. I'll be scrolling I'll get some you know. like somebody preaching at me and then. I'll get into that and I'll be like you. know if you watch the whole thing you're. gonna get another one I'm like oh the. Lord he trying to. he getting me oh yeah I thought of God.

is my girlfriend's sweatshirt the other. day off of somebody that I ended up on. some link and now I got that coming I. just hope it's not too small because I. feel like that's not the sweatshirt no. no no no. absolutely not yeah that needs to be a. big one. um yeah I'm trying to think what I watch. I follow a couple of like like uh people. that have like disabilities for somehow. a lot of people like if like now it used. to like now people kind of champion if. somebody in their family has a. disability you know.

um so I follow a couple of folks like. that I follow this little baby named. samaj this little black child who is so. just adorable with his mother yeah. they're all he's always he always says. he has to go to work and then he has to. go to his second job. um what else do I follow yeah I get it. sometimes the Lord will yeah the Lord. yeah he'll stop you dead and you try. you'll be like watching something you. ain't supposed to be watching and then. the next one will be like. stop this one's for you don't scroll you. know.

oh. um I don't know so then what is uh. what has what was like a first job that. you had growing up did you have a job. you said oh yeah I impersonated Hannah. Montana oh you did really I really did. for five years no way I started in the. eighth grade I would do like three or. four parties a weekend. but whose parties were if there's only. 200 people in town oh no I went. everywhere it's so the first party I did.

was uh for my eighth grade teacher and. she had just bought me a little Hannah. Montana wig and she's like will you just. show up to my little girl's party and. pretend to be Hannah and I just took it. too far and went and bought the karaoke. track I already had a portable sound. system and so I put on a show on a. flatbed trailer and when I tell you it. spread like wildfire wow next thing I. know I mean I'm playing in Mississippi. and Arkansas Texas the last place I did. it was at St Jude. um like I would open up the show or I.

would at least ask like I can't Laney. open up the show and they're like who's. that and I'm like person you hired to do. this job. so oh so you would do both characters. yeah. I would try to because I'm like let me. take advantage of this. um let me just get up there with my. guitar and see if they like my stuff. yeah that's a great idea. so yeah I did that for five years I. played with did you ever get to perform. it for Miley or no I've never met Molly. you haven't but we got to do something.

together at some point because I mean I. can't get away from the cyruses the. first song I learned on guitar was Achy. Breaky Heart oh so. yeah it's Gotta happen. I might as well be Osiris at this point. my egg yeah I met some guy that day I. think dated one uh that dated Molly for. a while the other day at a party. somewhere but uh I don't know if I've. ever met her no maybe I met one of her. sisters. um she's got a lot of siblings huh yeah. there's a lot of Cyrus's keep popping. yeah.

okay like okay Ricky Cyrus yeah all. right I don't know about that you know. like okay Deontay Cyrus I don't that. sounds Deontay yeah everybody's trying. to be a sign yeah I feel like a lot of. this it could be a lot of FO Cyrus's. going. um. I did a lot of like I'll say whenever I. first moved to Nashville yeah um when I. was living in my camper trailer. um I'm living there with a man you're. living here by yourself by myself oh. dang yeah yeah yeah yeah you have a. security item yeah ah so long story.

short. um there was a guy from Baskin who. wanted to move to Nashville and do music. and he ended up becoming a songwriter. producer and had some success like. in the 90s okay but he wanted to move in. the late 70s and uh my grandfather on my. daddy side he gave him just like a few. hundred dollars to kind of help him move. to Nashville and get started so as a. favor in return well he was my mentor. kind of growing up he'd stop by my house.

whenever he came home to Baskin and. stuff and okay. um. he let me live in his Studio parking lot. out in Bellevue. for free for three years so I hooked up. the trailer to the water the Wi-Fi the. electricity I mean I flooded the thing I. was having uh. Plumbing issues and nobody wanted to. help me work on the thing so you know. I've got my daddy on the other line and. he's like we'll do this close off your. valves fill up your tank then you know. let it run for a while undo it and let.

it kind of flush out while I fell asleep. and. the entire dining camper trailer flooded. it's uh I mean the floor eventually. started rotting out you know you just. had to be careful where you were. stepping yeah jump over the other part. to get to the bathroom you know oh yeah. it's like Dance Dance Revolution kind of. in there at a certain point you know. especially in a bad trailer don't when. they start to go they start that's right. yeah I mean the whole thing needed to be. redone and. um I remember one time I was I was.

taking a shower and um I had just. started these like. kickboxing lessons or it was some. something called hot box here in town. where it's like super hot but you're. boxing and um. you know what it is you've been there I. mean I used to I've been super high in a. very small yeah yeah yeah you know what. hot boxing is like the other hot box. yeah and I've not been able to get out. so yeah I've freaked out before one time. in a truck and yeah almost kicked my way. out of a window of a well yeah well. that's the way I felt because how a. camper trailer.

um shower doors are they've got the. little latch on it so you can close it. when you're traveling it's not like. flinging open and I remember I was. sitting there showering and it was ankle. deep water my propane was running out so. the water was cold my shower head fell. off I'm showering with a water hose and. then I'm like you know what this is some. [ __ ] but whatever so. I try to you know I'm just like I'm. gonna get out of the shower and it's. gonna be a better day I get to go you. know push on that door that dang latch.

it closed no I was stuck in there but. you know what them kickboxing lessons. came in handy because I wow right out. wow God dang. oh put that cheek in there Boo get that. leopard leg I did I sure did uh-huh. don't mess with me. dang dude I'm trying to think of uh yeah. my sister I live in a trailer for a long. time and she was so funny because like a. branch fell in their trailer right in. Louisiana she live out in Gonzales and.

she had such a positive attitude like. one day she sends me a picture there's a. branch through their kitchen right. through the kitchen. and like one of her kids is like sitting. on the other side of the counter eating. cereal like they're just so like kind of. not just like right and there's a bird. on the branch and she goes look Theo. look how beautiful right and like I like. I wish my perception of the world was. like how beautiful right look at this. bird in our home right like look how. cool wow honestly I feel like I just. learned a lot from that story right.

there yeah I mean seeing the good you. got to see the good and everything yeah. she had the good going on. um. so what else can I ask you about I mean. obviously you're with your career. growing it's quickly it's crazy how. quick you can get to places where you're. like okay I could maybe work with Miley. Cyrus or I could maybe work with Dolly. Parton like it's probably like it's kind. of like it's crazy wild it is wild and. mandolin and I I mean we've been working. together which is my manager for. everybody listening.

um we've been working together for. eight years. oh my gosh we have yeah and um I mean. she was setting me up co-writes and. stuff when I mean nobody would give me. the time of day she's like y'all gotta. listen to her and everybody's like oh no. sorry but um we have we've been like I. mean we're best friends we work very. closely together and we've dreamed up a. lot of these things I mean everything we. put on our list for last year we've. accomplished that and then then some so.

we were talking the other day it's. really cool to be able to to dream a. little bit bigger it's like my gosh like. it's really not that far-fetched I mean. we got on a tour bus last June I've been. traveling in a flatbed truck for 10. years you know and. that seemed far-fetched and now here we. are I mean the wheels are turning and. um we gonna do it we're going to. accomplish everything on our list this. year wow yeah I love that I don't even. think we've made a list but we're gonna. make a list she's made the list well.

it's scary yeah she probably has that's. good it's scary like yeah making a list. and realizing you can actually like when. you start to achieve some of your dreams. it's kind of scary kind of it is and. I'll say you know. I will I think I'm prepared for what's. going on but there's absolutely another. level of pressure. to look good sound good be good be on be. prepared for everything yeah be fancy. enough yeah yeah I mean the right way. but some of that I think is also a trap.

I think especially I feel like with. country music I feel like people come. there because they want I love stories. right and so that's why I think I love a. lot of country and singer songwriter. stuff is because I want to know the. start I just want to hear the story a. lot of times you know that's right. um so I feel like it's at least a genre. where and a universe where you can be a. little bit more you can normal yeah you. don't have to look like you got it all. together yeah I don't I'll tell you that. I do not and yeah the less you have it.

together the better I mean look at. Morgan's an example right you know what. I'm saying Morgan is like he's a. relatable one yeah he stays I mean hell. he lived he lived in like a like a dupe. I was like how do you live here like you. can't yeah you're too popular to live. here yeah right yeah but um he tries to. stay as relatable as possible yeah he. does a good job with that a lot of those. guys do now you know already John. party's kind of the same way he's out. there feeding his animals I know turn.

around I think you got to do things like. that to I mean if we're gonna write. about it we got to do it yeah I've had. some experience with it I think you know. that's right but that gets scary as your. life gets bigger and busier it's like. you don't have some of those same exact. moments you know for sure. um I did just buy me some land here. around Nashville that I'm excited to you. know kind of get back to some of that. because. when I first got here I mean. you just can't afford to to have animals.

and you can't afford to oh yeah it's. expensive. yeah having an animal. yeah I'm trying to think of what kind of. animal you would get and we'll get me. some horses you do I grew up on a horse. and can you be on a horse easily oh yeah. oh really oh yeah. I definitely I mean we rodeoed a little. bit me and my sister we were PRCA Rodeo. flag girls oh what is it that big old. bullet State isn't a saddle you know. what I'm talking about really. not as your sister pretty cheap though.

oh she's pretty cheeked up it ain't as. far out but it's definitely as far this. way okay okay yeah I like yeah yeah yeah. so she ain't going nowhere in the saddle. either she got that J in the tray baby. yep and her name is Jana so is it yeah. Janna Janna and does she have a couple. children or not she does oh yeah she got. two little boys Knox and Ledger oh wow. and they are bad yeah they're cute but. they're bad they live in Louisiana they. live in Louisiana God they sound like. damn train robbers they probably will be.

I know they probably will be not I love. them to death and they um they got to. come to a show I was doing with Luke. Combs out in Oklahoma city that was the. first show that the boys got to see I. think they were like they had a little. bit of an idea what Aunt Wayne he does. but not really until they got to see it. and I think they were a little bit like. oh okay and now there's dancing around. the house singing in the broomsticks and. yeah like uh oh maybe they got bit by.

the bug that's how it starts I think you. know you have to be influenced by. something something kind of has to like. like physically connect you to things. sometimes to know it even exists yep I. remember the first time that I saw a. comedy I didn't know comedy really. existed I mean I'd seen it on television. and stuff but that wasn't enough for me. to really get an idea of it yeah and. then somebody took me to a comedy show. in college and I was like oh my God yeah. like this is a real thing I was watching. this guy. and I was like this is a real thing that. people do wow you know.

did you guys have like a big Festival in. y'all's Town to what did because in. Louisiana like I've known for the. festival. for everything yeah I mean literally I I. went down to uh went down over wherever. you want I want to say it's at uh we did. the Rose Bowl Parade in L.A and I got to. be um I got to be on the Louisiana float. and represent Louisiana you did so and. there were lots of queens and I mean. there was the Crawfish Queen there was a. catfish Queen there was a frog Queen.

Turtle Queen duck Queen Locust frog I. mean yeah Queens everywhere but baby. yeah raccoon you're like the raccoon. yeah I'm like okay that's all right it's. just some guy up there like with a this. like with us with one of those tank top. sunburns on you like that's my uh one of. my favorite stories about my sister is. she was she was trying to do a pageant. for the um what was it the Watermelon. Festival and she gets out there and. she's you know trying to change her.

accent and stuff and she's like. I'm Jana Wilson concasket Kent number. three and then she goes [ __ ] in the. microphone. concasket. she didn't win she didn't win but we had. the catfish Festival was in Winnsboro. yeah yeah yeah yeah. that's crazy you know you're under. pressure sometimes you just if she says. [ __ ] I'd give her a 10. yeah yeah you. should have been the judge because I. think they were like no she ain't no.

Queen. concussion she was in another pageant. too. um it was like junior miss or something. and they were like what does what does. going green mean to you and she goes. don't pollute. and then walks up she didn't win that. one either. she didn't win that one either. I won Franklin Parish Farm Bureau Queen. did you. I mean yeah that was just like the thing. you're just like.

I did I really am I mean I bet but there. was some but there's a couple couple. broads that lost that are still a little. bit Teo they probably are yeah no you. probably are my question was like. you know what is agriculture mean to you. or something like that and I think the. line that like really got him was I was. like agriculture is the backbone of. America and then they were like oh yeah. we're giving her the crown. dude I lost a spelling bee in fifth.

grade I'm not even joking to a girl. who after who was who was the same year. got pregnant and was and quit school. really yeah she was older so she wasn't. you know fifth grade she was probably. eighth grade age what was the uh word. that you didn't know her name was Helena. I remember and I couldn't do uh. inconvenience well I wouldn't be able to. do that anyway either I'm like I. couldn't handle it ma'am I couldn't. handle that pressure. my god dude I still feel every time it.

comes up I just it just takes you back. God yeah and then I started thinking. about her and her child every time I. hear that word I need to go down rabbit. holes I know yeah it's really. inconvenient so yeah so it gets a little. wild. um that was funny I'm going to uh. Louisiana this week actually I got shows. in Shreveport in Baton Rouge you gonna. get you some crawfish maybe some oysters. I guess okay. apparently a neighbor is we're in Gaza I.

think we're like literally in Baghdad I. feel like something going on over there. only two times have we ever had like. real issues here in this with when jelly. roll was here well and then today I saw. jelly roll last night you did I must be. bringing in the juju. I love jelly I just I worry about his. health though did he look pretty good he. looked good he looked like he was. feeling good I mean he yeah he's he's. one of my favorites we're on the same. label oh y'all are yep he said the. reason he knew he wanted to be a part of.

that life he said because I I got on the. website and I looked to see you know the. roster he said I saw Laney's Old redneck. hippie ass weren't trying to wear bell. bottom stuff and then I saw you know. Jimmy Allen and then I saw uh Frank Ray. he's a ex Mexican cop and then I saw. um who else was it he said it just. looked like a halfway house he said and. I said this is the place for me. I'm like perfect I'll take that he's the. best man a bunch of Misfits people love.

him he's so I mean there ain't nobody. like him nope he is just him. yeah he's like a uh yeah there's nobody. like him and just as his stories. yeah and you you get you wanna and you. love him like the music obviously is. great and he's had a yes even had a. number one I mean how far did his son of. a center go it's so good it did go. number one. it's so good. yep so um.

but yeah there's just something about. him and he's got so many great stories. he just just everything about him I know. it's like even if the music wasn't good. you'd still want to root for him but. it's just a plus that the music is good. right. um. yeah I think there's just yeah you just. love him so much I think that's that's. the there's I feel like there's two. types of artists in in almost any genre. I think you're or in any. like template of art you're either like. people are there for you or they're. there for the art that's right and.

sometimes it's both and sometimes yeah. you're right but some guys it's like you. get are you or your reason you get into. them is one or the other yeah I know I. mean it's just Yeah because sometimes. it's like I like the person so much I. almost don't care what they make I agree. I mean I got some buddies so I'm like oh. that is but I love you. but I love you. um yeah but I'm gonna get some oysters. actually so I'm excited about that I. think.

but oysters are so weird oysters are. like I think they're supposed to not be. eaten. uh here's the thing for me it like. depends on the day and I'm kind of the. same way with sushi too it just depends. on the day whether I can actually do. them raw or not yeah. um I will say if you haven't been in. Hendersonville there's a place called. Moby Dickies it's on the water and I. wouldn't normally like eat oysters. around here but um they have some really. good but why wouldn't you eat them.

around here I don't know I mean I just. feel like eating them in south Louisiana. is probably a little bit better that's. true yeah it seemed like they how they. get up here you know did they Uber yeah. I think they opened all right they might. have left they use lips for sure yeah. oysters yeah they definitely because. oysters aren't supposed to be eaten. first of all who would eat if you. I can't imagine. but you'd have to be I feel like some. type of pedophile or something to open. something that small and put your dang. tongue in no you're right it's a little.

bit. it's a little bit weird yeah I think we. all might be a little weird it's a. little I mean it's like because it's. just so small I just I don't know every. time I open them I feel bad but I tell. you what I feel like I'm from Louisiana. every time I do it I'm like I'm doing. this because I'm from Louisiana you know. yeah crawfish though I mean I could I'll. make a special trip home just to go get. me some crawfish yeah. yeah but that always every time I open. it I feel like it's parents aren't home. you know yeah yeah yeah I just feel like.

sneaky I just feel bad just nasty I mean. like I don't want to say it's nasty I. feel a little bit like a creep kind of. um. so you got into some acting right yep uh. how has that been like and what was it. like because also the main character in. um oh no not Yellowstone I'm thinking of. that show 1942 Have You Seen Her 1732. what is it called 16 oh there's a you. don't talk about yeah yeah there's. several of them 1922 23 1923.

the first time you met jelly roll was. your first acting gig really oh it's. true yeah let's talk about that real. quick okay the first time you met jelly. roll. um and mandolin is her manager she's. here and she just said the first time. she met jelly roll was uh you guys acted. together no I was pretty much an extra. in a music video that he was doing with. Uncle Kracker no and they told me. earlier that day. um they were like we'll pay you a.

hundred dollars if you come out here for. the day and act like a drunk person. passed out on the ground I did it and I. never got my hundred dollars yeah I. don't even know if I've told jelly that. I didn't get my hundred dollars dude I'm. gonna tell him he better venomy. but uh Uncle Kracker passed away didn't. he I don't City. I don't know I don't think he did he. might have people don't know. [Laughter]. I feel like he's one of those people. that just could have passed away you.

don't know you know. yep yep yep yeah I don't know everybody. I feel like who spent time with Kid Rock. ends up dying so I better not hang out. with him then. no I'm joking I love Bob Bob is a nice. guy. um. but okay so tell me about so oh no but. the man I'm thinking of is from. Louisiana he's an actor on that show. 1940 us uh. um uh. Faith uh talking about Tim McGraw Tim.

McGraw oh 1883 you're talking about okay. okay sorry I thought you were talking. about 19 something and thank you yeah. Tim McGraw he's actually uh from like. start Louisiana but. um I had some grandparents that lived in. ward 3 Louisiana and he got brought home. from the hospital to like a little house. that was in ward 3 and my step. grandmother used to babysit him really. I've never met Tim either wow but we. know a lot of the same people I've been. here that's a town Ward three yeah you.

know some small towns we had wow so your. grandmother used to babysit him my step. grandma and what did she say about him. anything I mean he was like a tiny tiny. baby like but still you can I think even. look at an a baby she said I knew he was. a star and is this it right here let me. see Third Ward no that's Third Ward of. New Orleans dude yeah yeah yeah Ward. three it's just like yeah the third word. I think is that's where Little Wayne is. Ward 3 Louisiana who knows it's even. like an actual official name of a town.

but that's what they call it wow it's. like Provo Louisiana and then right. outside of it is Ward three. dude I met a girl one time we had like. the student council thing and like all. the rappers it was at our school in high. school right and so I think I was on the. student council I don't even know what I. was doing but I was there and they had. like all these kids came from other. places and I met some girl from rain. Louisiana where is that I don't know I'd. never heard of it right but I was like. oh my God sounds pretty magical you are.

beautiful I remember right and I just. wrote a big piece of poster board and. said you are beautiful no you did not I. did and I gave it to her I gave it to. her as you're sitting there opening up. an oyster. yeah you're beautiful I got a warm. oyster for you oh but I remember yeah. and she said you should come to the Frog. Festival something oh and I was like I'm. in I'll start jumping to get there. because it was far away they it was like. kind of it was farther than it was far.

away and. and uh I never I think we called each. other one time at night and that was it. that was it I remember I used to write. down things on a notepad of what to talk. about when I was like talking on the. phone in high school or Junior High. whatever it was I'd be like ask him if. he caught any frogs when he was frog ask. him how many frogs did he gig ask him. did he have fun. I'm like do you not know how to have a. conversation. Lord.

but sometimes you don't I think. sometimes you don't know how to have a. conversation especially when you're. young and you're like talking to the. opposite sex and that's right mom would. get on and she would always be like you. need to go clean something and it would. always be like what when you were just. getting to the good part oh there was. never a good part but I was just being. alive on the phone with a woman I know. and then oh she always ruined it every. time I remember being so nervous yeah it. was crazy like why. because I think it's just your first.

time doing it like you can't even. replicate those nerves as you get it's. like I mean you're you're like hard you. don't even know what's going on yeah. you're like embarrassed also you're it. is it's embarrassing yes. you're almost embarrassed of who you are. like how uncomfortable you are yes. that's very embarrassing. I remember that. like who am I I don't know how am I dude. what do I do I know and then seeing a.

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seventh grade I believe I just switched. schools and um this boy I don't know if. I don't know if he had a crush on me but. this ain't the way to let me know if it. did but it was Valentine's Day and he. goes. Lainey Wilson. uh you know everybody kind of turns. around and he goes roses are red violets. are black why is your chest as flat as. your back. and I was like yep that's honestly. pretty good I'm gonna write that one. down I couldn't help you know being a. songwriter I was like that's pretty good.

you're like that's copyright that's it. yeah. shouting stuff down the halls I remember. those days oh yeah and I would always. lie to my friends and I would say that I. had a girlfriend that lived in another. town and. I remember doing that and then my first. girlfriend she played softball and she. was strong God she was strong whoop that. butt and I think she was a woman you.

know and she I remember the bus would. come by she would pick me up. and like kiss me when the bus pick you. up yeah she was strong and literally I. wonder where she's at nowadays oh I'm. sure she is uh you think she's coaching. I don't know oh yeah you should look her. up she's coaching some man. um yeah yeah she wolfing somebody but. yeah she's yeah yeah this kid she could.

be doing chocolate body contest who. knows that's her but she remember and I. remember she would even wrap my legs. around her waist she was like a she was. and he loved it I didn't have I was. scared. I was scared man and then the worst part. was the bus would be there and my. brother and his friends. and they would yell stuff at us out of. the box. when you were just sitting there and. just own her like a baby had you on her. hip I didn't want to be I just yeah I.

just didn't have any other choice she. was so strong yeah she played second. base and mid middle feet and just. Outfield yeah God she was strong drove. I'm like how do you drive like we don't. even yeah but she was just so strong me. and my sister used to drive to school. when we were wow. oh yeah it was such a big adventure. wasn't it oh it was and we stopped by. the convenience store and basket and get.

them crispitos or one of them deep fried. hot pockets and oh they deep-fried a Hot. Pocket yes God they ain't doing that in. south Louisiana I don't think so I feel. like if you went to the gas station it. was a lot more like chicken tenders. and like I remember that like a homemade. root beer somebody did for a while but. it was bad oh and people were getting. sick. it won't stop me from getting it oh yeah. I mean we drank it for months but yeah. but we were sick. people's hair was falling out it was a.

bad but it's still good I think it had. like Monsanto in it or something it was. bad it was a bad batch. um what was that article oh a couple. monkeys guy they got uh two monkeys that. been taken from a zoo uh-oh did y'all. have a zoo and Baskin no we did a Monroe. and did y'all have an animal padding. facility because we didn't have a zoo. but we had an animal petting facility. that was nearby where you could go and. pet them you know things I ended up. getting one of those after I had already.

gone not in Winnsboro but kind of like. on outskirts kind of like a little. Safari like Drive Through Safari thing. yeah. um it's like a petting zoo kind of yeah. which I've never been you never been to. a petting zoo no. I feel like my house was a little bit of. a petting zoo. really but I mean I mean we had horses. and. um a lot of like family members and. stuff would have other. goats and sheep and you'll have like a. cook shed in the back and stuff did you. guys like. um. because some people have that in.

Louisiana they have like a cook shed you. know I mean there we would honestly we'd. go to the Tractor shed at my Granny's. house and we'd um yeah that's they would. fry up some stuff I feel like somebody. was always cooking something yeah you. know yeah it's popular. people like to grill cook and kill. something and then just cook it yep did. your uh or your grandparents still marry. or your are your parents still married. yep oh wow they are they are they've. been married. 36 years oh dang I believe yep my mom.

and daddy met she was 19 years old and. no they got married when she was 19. I. think she met him when she was like 17. or something like that yeah he was going. to college and. yep he swept her right off her feet they. crazy made a good kind of crazy but they. crazy. um yeah I remember like in even in like. Junior High they'd have like older men. or like guys would come and like bring. like. McDonald's to like the girls at our.

school wouldn't put it over the fence. and that was I know I'm like I'm falling. in love for real that's like Dude get me. a McMuffin that's all that's it the. second we saw like a girl from our. school walk over to the fence to get. fast food from an adult. we knew we lost her. she gone oh. my God I just remember because you'd see. the car pull up and you'd see him get. out you know you'd hear his boots. hitting around like I can't do that like.

I can't offer her that oh I have nothing. you know it's over yeah I'm over here. yeah just having me a little handful of. runts that I bombed off a buddy and. she's over there and then she'd Wahoo. whoever it was and walk out like God no. they got Amber I think she kind of. showing it off a little bit you know. like everybody's like how did you get. that yeah. it was just the biggest deal yeah God if. you had food from somewhere else at. lunch it was cool. you were like a son you were like. someone that had gone to outer space.

truly and everybody's looking at you. like you're the center of attention for. the meal it was good stuff yeah. um that is so true it was just like yeah. it was just little things like that man. do you remember. um the first date that you ever went on. like where you went on an actual date. yep. um went Red Lobster I ate some of them. cheesy have you had the cheesy biscuits. from cheesy biscuits yes someone killed. their spouse over a batch of them can. you look that up well I can understand. why.

I mean. but really are you you're for real that. really happened oh yeah oh you can. Google someone killed spouse over any. food and there's something. now that's crazy. keep looking. so y'all went there and what was it did. the guy pick you up oh no we were like. real young it was like we went. this is the guy that I dated pretty much.

my whole life he was like my childhood. sweetheart so it's like his parents were. sitting at another little booth kind of. like watching us. um but I remember he ordered. crab legs and I remember he he like was. he a damn mayor. oh. he cracked it and a piece of crab flew. right in my hair and I was so. embarrassed I was mortified I was over. there just enjoying my cheesy biscuit. and that dang crab landed in my hair and. I'm like oh he's and I don't know why.

but at 13 years old or however old I was. I was like oh he's not gonna like me. anymore even though he did it to me and. suddenly that's like catching the. bouquet at a wedding you're right you're. right if you get a piece of crab stuck. in your hair yeah that is dang good luck. I know I think you're right I didn't. know to appreciate it then but I do now. that's hot magic yep so that was my. first date. and I think we got that um. yes they have like this big old. chocolate chip cookie Skillet yeah.

yeah now that right there I could just. eat that for my meal oh yeah. well some places you know in the midwest. they'll have pie first they'll be like. you want your pie first really or dinner. so you don't so to make sure you have. room for it. it's real common you walk into like a. lot of diners there and said you want. your pie first wow. and I get it I mean I'd rather have the. pie too but yeah. but to say for yeah but I it's just. interesting I sing that over there.

um but speaking of like like real. official dates and stuff I did not have. like a real official date until a few. years ago when when somebody actually. mandolin manager she was setting up my. dates too we're sitting on my co-wright. setting up my dates she literally told. her friend from school she was like. Laney has never been on like an official. like you know somebody asked you to go. somewhere like like a first date right. like an official date because it's.

always been like I hung out with a dude. or whatever and then we would go get. some food yeah but it was nice he showed. me what it was supposed to be like and. and did he pick you up. when you meet him there I met him there. okay because it was a first date yeah I. met him that's kind of that makes sense. Kinda Yeah I met him there but it was he. was a gentleman and did he. um and did y'all did he um open the door. oh yeah like he walked me to my car and.

then then we went and kind of it was one. of those things where we knew neither. one of us we weren't going to date he. was kind of just doing me a favor okay. okay he's like I'm gonna take this girl. out like he knows that I was just too. much for him I mean really oh really. yeah I mean he's just wow what happened. I mean was he small no no no no not. small but like I'm just I'm pretty sassy. are you and spicy yeah I can't help it. really it's just that Louisiana thing.

yeah I mean you know were you violent. too or no no okay no he fed me good oh. that's good yeah you gotta sedate him a. little bit we knew like after we hung. out I was like yeah we'll be friends. it'll be you know when we see each other. we'll catch back up and a good boy who. showed me what it was supposed to be. like oh he showed me that like yeah it's. it's okay to still be traditional I like. being traditional you do yeah I do yeah. I like tradition I think I like a lot of.

traditions in uh in our country I think. you know I just think tradition is good. stuff I I think it's like it's nice to. have like patterns and stuff you know I. agree. I mean at the end of the day like I can. I can tend to myself and and take care. of you know like I don't need somebody. to open up a door for me whatever but. every now and then it's nice to feel. like yeah that's that's very nice yeah I. got it for you yeah yeah um do you. remember the first time you ever had a. kiss do you remember it yep I had braces.

oh we went in kissed somebody with. braces on me. oh yeah that's pretty sick I was pretty. sick bro hey bro yeah but oh if I'm. kissing somebody with braces on bro take. me to jail yeah yeah yeah. we were out in a little shop they were. like and what do you mean there's like. machines and stuff like Hammers and you. know wrenches and stuff hanging a while. I was at my friend Katie's house and her. boyfriend had just left and I thought.

tonight's the night I'm I'm going in and. you planned it well I knew it was. happening okay I could just tell how he. was acting like he gonna try to kiss me. tonight so I need to be prepared. but I was a little too prepared because. when I tell you I just opened my mouth. up wide and did this me too. I literally was like trying to eat his. face or something I don't know what like. what made me think that I needed to just. do this. [Laughter]. that ain't how it goes it took me a. minute.

but it didn't run him off. he liked it well yeah look if some chick. comes at me with an open mouth I think. I'm gonna figure it out you know but you. would terrify me oh that was that's. spooky that happened to me I was playing. we played spin the bottle in this girl I. loved oh my God and he messed that up. with that kiss. I'm like there's no way she might really. like me and it was like yeah I had the. chance to kiss her and I was like I. remember like leaning forward into the. group and I couldn't even feel my arms.

they were like they felt like they. belonged to somebody else and somebody. like who was like like somebody I didn't. even trust it was oh yeah you were just. like rattling dude and I felt like you. could hear my freaking bones rambling. and I'm like oh my God and then I just. and he went in my mouth I'd seen that on. TV I think like open mouth yeah yeah. and everybody was laughing and then I. remember I almost like. I didn't go in like a closet or anything.

to no I'm just gonna do it right out. there and that's that's terrible they. shouldn't have done you dirty like that. God it was horrible man and then I knew. I felt like a fish trying to eat. something and then I felt so sad and. then I remember thinking oh man that's. it. that's it you know and then I saw this. other real creepy dude later that night. brushing that girl's hair by the fire. and I'm like at least I'm not that dead. yeah no that's. yeah that guy's a real creep uh-huh I.

wonder what he's doing now I don't know. I could imagine time. yep. um what uh so tell me about acting some. so I know some about your career right. and I know General stuff but. um and I know some specifics but I like. to just yeah you know see what you think. about stuff so was that scary was it. like I mean obviously it's exciting. because Yellowstone's a big show yeah. but was it. would you think of that it's a big time. commitment with that for sure it is so.

Yellowstone I mean they've been great to. me they put several of my songs on the. show which really just introduced me to. a crowd of people who might not listen. to radio or strain music I mean I have. people still you know come to the shows. and they're like before your acting gig. like I found your music through. Yellowstone so it's crazy to think that. a Show's soundtrack is really like that. helpful but for Yellowstone it is it. truly is and. Taylor Sheridan.

um the writer and producer he's just. been good to me I mean he called me last. February and he's like. he said I got this idea he said I want. to create a character specifically for. you and he said wear your bell bottoms. sing your songs pretty much be you but. um go buy a musician named Abby. and I mean this is my first acting gig. I've been acting to fool my whole life. but this was like you know the real. thing and this was like a a huge thing. concerning it was my first too.

um but I had so much fun I didn't know. what to expect I will say there are a. lot of similarities like with what I. normally do on a on a daily basis and. that I mean like it's a lot of hurry up. and wait you get ready for the scene you. you're waiting for your you know your. moment to shine and you got like a few. minutes to show them what you can do you. know or even when it comes to like. learning the lines it's like learning a. song that I didn't write. um but everybody made me feel so. comfortable I mean I became great.

friends with a lot of them Beth I mean. she is Kelly Riley she is so badass and. she's actually really kind uh when when. we first met because my very first scene. was with her. bring her up there buddy Kelly Riley. bring her up on there Kelly Riley you. know she's British oh yeah I know about. him yep she British so you should have. heard mine in her conversation we needed. a dank translator. yeah. but she's great she's still you can tell. that she's still got that Spitfire.

Spirit about her. um but she is a a good human I mean she. made me buy assaults and oh dang I was. like okay I thought you gonna put me in. a headlock you making me bath salts bath. salts are. people die from them. yeah well we're gonna do the right thing. with the bath salts. I'm gonna call her yeah man that's.

swimmer's myth. it but I [ __ ] that's some hardcore stuff. um. wow so but tell me your first scene when. you got to get out there and do it. because that's when it's scary when. they're like. at when the when you know when they say. action and it's on like you got to get. that line out and your brain is like. listening to you say it yeah it's like. you get stuck in that space kind of I. mean what was any of that like was it. I'll tell you I was I was real nervous. um that day but.

I have I had a lot of family members. praying for me that day for me to not be. nervous and for me to just kind of be in. my body and people were sending me Good. Vibes and. um I really think that helped because. when I got out there to do it for some. crazy reason I was not nervous at all. it was like I have been doing it my. whole life. and I'm like. kind of freaked out that I wasn't. nervous you know wow I was nervous for. the kissing scene my first kissing scene. oh y'all were kissing on there dude.

yes I said I'm gonna be on the name. church prayer list back at home. I didn't know what to expect with all. that either I'm like and who was the man. um he goes by Ryan on the show his name. is Ian Bowen he's become a dear friend. of mine too he's actually one of my. biggest Champions I mean he just he. shows up to shows he knows all the words. to my songs better than I do well heck. you kissed him I'd freaking Polly follow. you yeah yeah he's following me.

um bring up that man if we can huh. and Bowen Ian Bowen and he's out there. lip locking out there that's right and. it wasn't his first rodeo dang he's. handsome huh I mean he's all right I. mean all the Cowboys on that show they. yeah it's a real it's a lot of. handsomers on there huh a lot of. handsomers because I've seen the other. one I haven't seen this show yep. I know the some of the chaos but I've. not seen this show but yeah he looks. like a handsome guy.

oh look at that huh oh yeah I mean we. got down to it that was the first our. first little interaction and. so did you guys talk before it yeah huh. yeah we did we uh we actually had a a. few days of working together before we. actually had to you know. do the do the thing. um but. yeah we just got to know each other and. I mean I did like I said I didn't know I. didn't know if like we really needed to.

go in or like go in or whatever I mean. y'all made on there too or is just. kissing it's just kissing. I mean I wake up in a tent in one scene. um so it's kind of up to your. imagination oh damn but you know that's. that's as as risque as it got well my. imagination uh it has yeah yeah it's. it is not allowed around me anymore. uh-huh put that thing away oh yeah yeah.

better take the batteries out of that. thing that's right. um wow that's so wild so isn't it isn't. it interestingly to feel like your. dreams coming true what is that kind of. like oh you're ever able to get in any. moments like that because that's kind of. interesting like. you know a lot so many people have. dreams in the world and it's hard to you. know not all of us get to have them come. true it's that is very true I feel very. lucky I feel like. we talk about this all the time but it. seems like the stars have to align over. and over and over and over again and.

they gotta align again you know and I. mean you can work hard and keep your. head down and and do your thing or. whatever but it's still it's Gotta Have. a little bit to do with luck too. um. I feel I feel like I've been because. I've been here for so long and working. at this ever since I was nine years old. I'm 30 years old you know I feel like. I've been like preparing for the race. like I finally entered it and just now. I'm about to run it I mean it feels like.

it's just beginning now so I don't think. I haven't had a moment where I'm like oh. I've made it. I feel like we're doing it you know I. feel like things are coming to fruition. but I also feel like there's a lot more. [ __ ] to be done. yeah it's really interesting yeah it's. almost like when you've because there's. times there's times when you're going. through your career you're like I should. be having this opportunity right yeah. but then you realize later that if you'd. have gotten those opportunities at that. point you wouldn't have even been ready.

nope you're right I'm glad it's taking. me a long time I mean and not that long. you look lovely by the way and I don't. think you look. probably 20. ah I like you or 20 and a. half maybe oh okay I'll take it or 22. sorry and I'll keep going until we get. you know until everything seems okay. no. I will say for the longest time people. made me feel like like don't talk about. your age in this town yeah it's going to.

date you you know but at the end of the. day I'm I'm proud to be 30 I'm proud you. know that it has taken me this long. because I feel like time is a part of my. story and I feel like it's I don't know. you know I wanna I wanna show little. girls and boys that. sometimes it's going to take you a. little longer than some folks I mean I. moved to this town and people were. passing me up left and right getting. publishing deals getting record deals. and. at the end of the day sometimes slow and. steady you know is better and I feel.

like I've been trying to do Brick by. Brick just one thing at a time because I. want longevity I don't want to just be a. flash in the pan and I'm not I'm not. doing that so you couldn't be I don't. think. um. I don't see how it would even be. possible and it's funny because if I. listen to Heart Like a truck right but. you're 24 years old I it's not it I. don't believe that yep no I've been. through some stuff. yep and I'm proud of it it's been hard I.

mean there's definitely times where I. wish it wouldn't have been that way I. mean. I mean even it's weird because like I. I'm experiencing like really great. things with my career right now even. when I was filming Yellowstone I was. going through like we were losing my. daddy. um he ended up Surviving but like he was. spent two months in ICU and I was having. to actually a few of those scenes right. there. um I would go over to the corner and cry. and then come back and then shoot it. again and. it just seems sometimes I'm like man.

am I supposed to go through these things. so I can be more relatable to people and. and be more understanding and be able to. write the kind of music that people are. really gonna connect to and listen to. and that's kind of what I chalk it up to. sometimes because I mean life ain't easy. yeah it is what it is you just gotta. keep rolling yeah and sometimes it's. like I don't know I feel like sometimes. like God has a way of reaching people. right and not to make it religious or. anything but it's like sometimes you're.

just part of that way that's right you. know and it's not even. yet you have talents and stuff but it's. like sometimes some things they're so. especially with music it's like man this. thing is and so many people have written. and you know there's other people. playing and it's like really to make. this thing it's like it takes a a. village it does take a village you know. I like the best way for me to explain it. to people who ask about the industry I. just say it's like the artist is like at. the center of the wheel and there's a. million different spokes I mean you got.

your label you got your management you. got your business manager you got your. tour manager you got your bands you got. publicity you got publishing so many. different spokes of the wheel and all of. them have to be turning. fluid you know they all have to be. lining up and if one little thing is off. you in a ditch yeah you're in a ditch. you're on a unicycle in a dang ditch. that is it yeah that is that's the best. way to explain it the crab in your hair. boom.

um what happened with your father he was. sick yes it was actually a fungal. infection oh dang that um kind of took. out the left side of the inside of his. face so anything that this fungus. touched just it turned to dirt it's like. the most like aggressive type of fungus. there is how do you get it. um I mean it could have been from the. farm it could have been from the barn. anything like that super rare super rare. and he's actually the.

with the people who were kind of like. leading the case and stuff he's a second. person to ever survive it that they've. worked with and with few of the doctors. he's the first one to ever survive it. but he had nine surgeries in a month and. a half they kept going in to remove the. fungus and then he had a stroke on top. of all that so oh man that must have. been heartbreaking it it was and it's he. still got a little ways to go but. actually. this this past week a big old praise. report he went back to work several like.

just for like a couple hours just to go. up there and kind of [ __ ] with some. of his friends but that right there. that's work in Louisiana that's work and. that's also just that's a big old step. so wow I must have been that must have. felt awesome for him yep I'm ready for. him to be able to I mean he's still. driving the tractor and he's doing stuff. like that but. ready for him to start having some more. interactions with people because I think. just interacting with with people is. healing in general yeah you've healed me. today. [Music]. oh thanks back at you yeah I've just.

felt so off my I don't even know what's. going on today I get it you do I get it. I'm moving right now. no I trust me for me it's like. it's just like that Mojo that that you. find right before you go on stage. sometimes it's hard to find that like. impossible. impossible yeah. is it is are there are there shows and. obviously I'm sure all your shows are. great are there shows and moments where. it's like. or there's some shows where for some.

reason you're eight you're able to hit. another gear I find that without me I. don't know if it's like that with music. at all oh it absolutely is. um I feed off the crowd. and you probably do the same exact thing. I feel like it's like an energy exchange. like if their energy is up here yeah. that's where I'm at if they're energy is. down here that's that's kind of where. I'm at too. um I mean one little thing can throw the. show all off like the other night I had. somebody spit at me yeah yeah I'm like. why are you gonna pay for a ticket then.

spit at me like I ain't trying to fight. nobody tonight and I had that in my. brain the whole night you know yeah and. then it kind of you then go down rabbit. holes why are they spitting at me yeah. you see somebody just spitting like dip. and you're like [ __ ] him you just start. losing somebody is that's him right. there get him out some guy's drooling. some guys like he has like a Bell's. palsy but yeah yeah yeah that's him he. did it yeah oh we had a show the other. night some girl was just what and.

usually for comedy you want people to be. quiet yeah so oddly it's kind of the. opposite you want it to be silenced. because you'll use the silence to kind. of create the next moment for the yeah. yeah you know so you want them to laugh. when they're you know when it's funny. but you want them to otherwise kind of. and people want to yell out stuff you. know and just yell out cocaine yeah no. [ __ ] sometimes you know everybody on the. crowd saying Free Bird yeah and I'm like. the amount of times I've heard that. yeah so yeah it's like the other night. the show is just it threw everything off.

so much in the beginning that it was. just kind of a bad show I felt like you. know I know I get that it happened and. it's hard to kind of come back from it. yeah it's hard about yeah sometimes it's. hard to bounce back it's just. and sometimes you just gotta chalk it up. to that's just how the night went the. crowd someone doesn't even know I know. yeah they have no clue because there's. times where I'll get off stage and I'll. tell my band like oh my gosh I was like. struggling tonight I could not find that. that thing or I was like I was searching. for that certain feeling you know yeah.

and um and I didn't get that feeling so. therefore I feel like I like let myself. down or let everybody else down and the. band was like oh my gosh to me that was. one of the best shows that we played yet. and I'm like is something wrong with me. yeah and then there's times where. they're like I did terrible tonight and. I'm like that's the best show we've ever. played because of that feeling yeah. that's exactly what it is I'm looking. it's almost selfish man I'm looking for. some feeling that I think that that I. usually get when the show feels good to. me yes and they might not have any clue.

no they're they're thinking that is the. best thing I've ever seen yeah that is. the funniest thing I've ever seen. it's interesting we had a yeah usually. it's a woman that gets crazy at a comedy. show sometimes it's like a a lot of. times it's a woman that'll get. outrageous kind of like a drunk woman or. something yeah yeah a real drunk lady. he'll get drunk how do you deal with. that we end up usually tossing them out. yeah yeah because then it just. satisfactions. and he's like you know. muffin never gets drunk and I'm like.

well first of all muffin gets drunk. that's right and muffin is drunk tonight. muffin gotta go yeah yeah. we need to put muffin in the damn to-go. box I want a meat muffin though she does. sound like a good time. um. um I'm trying to think of what else I. mean obviously your career just really. speaks for itself you know I'm uh I'm. grateful that we get to sit and chat a. little bit anything band that you wanted. to bring up. for you do you have little pieces of the. puzzle that help you start writing a. song or finish a song like what do you.

tell those writers listening to you. right now yeah I like that. what is it. what did he say and that is a big old. question you're gonna have to repeat it. again because I barely know okay. basically like no here's the the easy. version. um what is like my songwriting process. like because it's probably pretty dang. similar to like the way that you write. you know. um for me the cool thing about. songwriting is it's different every. single time I sit down I mean I feel. like some people you know they start.

with one thing pretty much all the time. but for me it could start with a Melody. it could start with a guitar riff. um but no matter what it always starts. with an idea for me I keep this little. list in my phone called my hook book and. that's where I just you know probably. you probably did the same thing you jot. down that's kind of. seedy women yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. so then I'll look through there but at. the end of the day I feel like I've been.

given the opportunity to write with so. many incredible writers here in. Nashville that they've kind of taught me. how to put myself into the shoes of. whatever it is that we're writing about. I mean if we wanted to write about this. thing right here you know then they've. kind of taught me how to like feel that. for everything that it is and right from. that perspective which is pretty dang. therapeutic. um oh that's interesting so you find. there's a lot of therapy in it really it. is and sometimes I mean of course a lot. of my songs I have and most of the songs.

that I end up cutting are songs that are. super personal to me but there is. something really cool about kind of just. stepping outside of your shoes for a. minute and put your putting yourself. into somebody else's and that is. very freeing. I love it I love song I mean songwriting. was my number one. I mean like I said I wrote my first song. at nine years old and when I moved here. in to Nashville that's that's what's. songwriting was the foot that I led with. yeah I figured that was my strength and.

that's the only way that I could you. know maybe get my foot in the door was. through my songwriting so. is it serves a very it's. a special thing in my life. wow that's interesting yeah I used to. love to write music I used to love to. write country songs I used to look yeah. sometimes when I was working on that. tractor I would stop it and I would. stand out on it and listen to like top. 40 country and it was like Clay Walker. was. he had this Uncle she's always right and.

uh I would like sing that at the top of. my lungs and I used to love to write. country music um. did you uh was there a point where you. thought you would just be a songwriter. um I always knew that. like does that happen in artists like I. just wonder like because sometimes with. comedians right there's you do comedy. and then sometimes you're like oh I'm. just going to be a writer and I'm gonna. write for like a late night show or like. a Fallon or like which you were just on. or like uh you know or I'm gonna write.

for a comedian yeah but I don't know if. the dream ever goes away to just do. comedy but sometimes life gets in the. way you'll get a family or something. yeah and things kind of have to shift. I'll say. I didn't want to have to choose I was. like I can do both I'm going to be a. songwriter I'm going to be an artist I'm. gonna do it all but I had somebody who. was who I was working with at the time. who made me believe you can't be both he. was like really you got to choose are.

you a songwriter are you an artist and. I'm like I'm both he's like no no but. you gotta like you gotta really and I'm. like no. look around at some of the most. successful artists I mean decades and. deca for decades you know. they write their own stuff and they sing. their own stuff and it doesn't mean that. I'm opposed to you know cutting outside. songs at the end of the day like I said. the best idea and the best song wins. um. but you can do both. look at Morgan look at Hardy look at.

look at all the guys and look at Ernest. he's the pitch for Lipscomb that's what. I'm saying like. you can do it you shouldn't being. creative you shouldn't. be scared to step outside of the box and. in my opinion that's not even really. stepping outside of the box it's just. singing the stuff that you wrote yeah. and he was going to sing it better than. you he was so wrong that really seems to. yeah that amps you up I'm ready to fight. dude I thought yeah you can beat the. [ __ ] out of me if you want I've been I. mean by women I might.

put it on on the camera we're gonna do. it afterwards. other people want. look well I'll open a Bible he can beat. the damn devil out of them that's gonna. be hard to do that's gonna take a few. Bibles yeah yeah we're gonna give man a. little bible too we're gonna beat the. [ __ ] out of you. dude Bibles should come with a little. bat when I feel like some of them you. know because some people really need to. be beaten about that's right. um okay so what's coming up then you. just have two you have a lot of touring.

I mean how does that end yeah this was. my song she's always right did you ever. hear that song oh God I fell in love. every time I heard this dang song. yeah I used to love that one love it. it's a good one oh Clay Walker. um. all right we'll talk your ears off yeah. it's okay it's been nice thanks for your. patience thank you thank you for having. me this is have fun I knew we get along. you did yeah. yeah I thought I mean I feel like you. get along with everybody but yeah yeah I. don't know a lot of female singers.

really yep you know I don't think anyway. I might. you might I can't remember but. um. but anyway. um congratulations on all your success. you'll just be touring a lot then is. that what's going on yep we are doing my. first headlining tour right now called. country with a flare okay we got my. friends May McCree Ben Chapman and Leah. Blevins out with us and. um love them believe in them so much. it's nice to feel like I'm finally able. to like I'm in a position where I could.

help somebody else because I had so many. people help me along the way it just. that it feels good to be able to do that. just even inviting them on on the road. you know oh yeah I can help them so. um doing that we are going out with Luke. combs for the stadium tour really which. is a full circle thing for me because he. used to come over to my camper and we'd. write and so we're doing that we've got. I mean so many things exciting things. this year and. um hopefully be filming some more. Yellowstone we'll see dang it's a lot.

it's a lot so people can just go well. obviously they can get tickets to the. Luke comb show and then. yeah my tour is completely sold out yeah. we're even moving to some bigger venue. so it's exciting stuff considering. I mean so last year looked different I'm. not gonna lie it's crazy really yeah I. mean I played. Yeah March of last year in Tuscaloosa. um we had had a hit with things a man.

ought to know and never say never what. Cole Swindell was. just it was killing it at that time too. I see like there were so many things. that we had done but I still could. barely sell a ticket wow I sold like was. it 100 or like 91 tickets or something. like that. and a lot of people there were family. and it was like where like where is this. not connecting you know like I feel like. we we won some awards we got some number. ones but still at that time I was pretty.

faceless I think that's what happens. with a lot of artists so explain that to. me when you say faceless because this. isn't yeah I think a lot of people know. songs on the radio I think during that. time if you would have asked anybody who. listens to country music like you know. that song things a man ought to know. they all would have said yes but they. did not. know me. and that's where the disconnect is and I. think that's really where Yellowstone. has been. so beneficial because.

you know they see your name up on the. screen and and stuff and then they. finally just like see your face and. they're like oh okay and then I have to. see it a million other times for it to. really really connect yeah how many. times they say you got a. yeah you have to have like 12 to 15. impressions for people to even like. remember or be like oh that's who that. is let me go check it out dang because. there's just so much out there in the. world I mean people just oh yeah well.

it's crazy I mean I spent half my day. watching mentally unwell people do you. know go to the mailbox and do regular. stuff I know and so it's like yeah it's. crazy because like you said Lucas Nelson. right with somebody who had done a. collab with is somebody yep uh Willie. Nelson's son okay he is and Ray Lynn he. has a daughter too right. um I haven't met I actually have not. even met Lucas in person yet either we. uh. but you guys did a collab together we. did a collab together. um so you go in at separate times and do.

it yeah he actually he lives in Hawaii. half the year yep he lives out there and. uh we facetimed and and got it done but. I mean he's such a cool dude is he he. don't even know how cool he is oh man. he's that kind of cool that's the best. kind of cool yeah that's cool that's. cool bro. yeah I think um but yeah like um oh dang. what was I saying oh. he's talking about like the faceless. like the disconnect well yeah so to get.

people to see you right it's funny. because you could say his name I've. heard his name before right but it's. like yeah I wouldn't be able to put his. face it's hard you gotta get sent you. have to there's just so much but this. you know some of these like I could pick. out this one dude who has like. you know there's like a guy who's kind. of mentally handicapped and he opens. baseball cards all day and I if I saw. that dude I would lose my mind yeah it's. just crazy how you have you know. different things you're into or there's.

a baby there's actually two babies if I. saw one of those babies you'd be like. I would dude you're gonna get arrested. yeah he would have to call me cops like. the baby's dad would be like hey you. gotta stop yeah yeah you gotta stop that. baby's real young but it's true but it's. like just the thing to take your in take. your attention well I think you've got. everybody's attention now I don't know. how you could ever get rid of it I mean. once I heard your voice I don't think I. could ever thank you man I could just. it's in my ears forever thanks you know.

it is very powerful thank you very much. and uh thank you so much for uh just. spending time with us absolutely I'm. gonna do this again. [Music]. [Music]. gonna take.