Jameis Winston | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #492

we're coming to you today from bar. Marilu in New Orleans Louisiana s and. we're grateful to sit down today with uh. NFL quarterback Heisman Trophy winner. and uh one of the most charismatic guys. in the league today's guest is Mr jamus. [Music]. Winston I'll sit and tell you my story.

shine on. me and I will find a. [Applause]. song yeah cuz I met somebody where I was. at the grocery yesterday and I met a guy. he said you you he always sees you in. there getting a lot of juices where you. at Whole Foods or Fresh Market yeah I'm. in there man are you yeah I'm in there.

like I get the the watermelon juice oh. like I got a watermelon juice right here. oh you do huh do I do all right I keep. it man okay good good for circulation. you know what I'm saying good for the. body I'm just saying he keeps that thing. on in my her I keep it that watermelon. juice bro that's yeah you got look if. you can't get to one in real time keep. the juice out of it I feel that yeah man. uh thanks for coming in bro no thank you.

you I'm thankful for this man I admire. you your story you know what I'm saying. appreciate it yeah no doubt yeah I've. been a lifelong Saints fan too so uh. yeah this is really it's just a nice. opportunity man to get to sit down with. you today yeah we we we uh we went to. the basketball game last night P yeah. you been yeah I've been to some PS games. yeah I enjoy it yeah I enjoy the city. man Smoothie King yeah actually uh we. went to uh one of uh one of my old. recruits back in Florida Malachi depri.

went to LSU we went to his little sushi. spot me and cam join and a good friend. Stone my wife his wife and we met a. couple that just came from the game they. were celebrating their second year. anniversary last night yeah she had like. on her pills like chain and everything. and I was like hey man y'all celebrating. did the pills win last night you know. you celebrate your anniversary going to. a pills game and they talking about yeah. we came all the way from Mississippi I. said okay that's not that far but to. celebrate anniversary.

oh yeah I think anniversary is important. man no doubt I celebrated mine uh. Wednesday oh you did yeah no doubt nice. what' y'all do Man Four Seasons after. four seasons really yeah your four at. Four Seasons oh that's how you do it no. doubt we did it right wow so I guess you. got to find something that rhymes huh. each time you think or like for fifth. what do you have to do then CCO de Mayo. CCO Deo that's my grandma birthday oh it. is yeah oh you can't mix them then yeah. no yeah what else yeah I grew up not far.

across the lake man uh so I'm from this. area Covington right yeah yeah you been. over there well I've drove driven over. there to go to Alabama like I'm I'm from. Birmingham B oh yeah yeah yeah what was. it like in your town growing a pretty. small area yeah pretty small uh intimate. but we had like a lot of celebrity not. celebrities but some of the greatest. athletes there like Bo Jackson like Deo. Ry who coached for uh huh Texans yeah.

yeah so like Carrie rhods Cory white. like we we had a lot of like sports. figures that Willie ma was right down. like about 15 minutes yeah from farfield. ma will ma man did you ever get to see. him when you were a child well no he's. he's a little older than me right but. even when you were a oh he was already. deceased or no no he wasn't deceased but. like I I never got to meet him you think. he drive down there and meet him well I. I played it like his baseball field I. did that have yeah oh nice no doubt it's. been it was cool uh and yeah what was it.

like did you have any pets growing up. yeah I had I had two pets I had two pit. bulls um one name was uh his name was. Baghdad oh damn huh yeah I mean I think. he was a service dog he was he was. definitely a service dog uh but he was. baddad because of I guess the time that. everything was going on and like and. like when we first got him he was a uh. he was really a rescue like he was into. fighting and stuff and like he was all. ate up and everything oh damn and um and. he really just like he became my best.

friend really you know what I'm saying. because you know like a lot of people. are scared of pit bulls yeah and he was. a little timid at first just because of. what he went through and and me and my. dad was like man you know he went. through War you know and uh at that time. you know we were uh like it was during. like the early 2000s when a lot of. things a lot of events had happened in. the Middle East yeah in the Middle East. yeah so uh we named him Baghdad you know. damn yeah and another one was Ice oh now. ice seemed like he been into some other. stuff it wasn't she it wasn't she okay. I'm just saying ice seem like she might.

have got off into the drug game we got. her from a from a kit from a is it is it. l or a k Kitty I think it's one of them. we got her from like a kennel oh yeah so. so she was a puppy and uh we had her up. and she was just she was feisty really. yeah she was feisty a lot of these yeah. a lot of women females are overall and. that's fine it look they got own yeah. they got to be feisty man yeah it seemed. like you might have did y'all have a cat. or not you don't see a lot of uh did. y'all ever own a cat no I'm not I'm not.

a cat guy one of my best friends on like. he he's a cat guy uhuh yeah you don't. see I'm me I I I think you don't see a. lot of brothers with cats either to be. honest a like honestly growing up I used. to see a lot of straight cats because. like in the house I grew in we had a lot. of lot of rats like in the bottom of the. house so like them cats there come and. get them rats like it was really like I. was a big fan of Tom and Jerry yeah like. that show like it's like I had real life. Tom and Jerry moments the cats like we. had pit bulls chained up in the back we. had the cats running through like the. they was Alley Cats too like they was.

some bad because them rats they was big. they was SW damn you D living on Noah's. Ark. bro man it was a lot of it was a lot of. species multiplying I'm trying to say. you croach everything oh at night you've. turn it yeah you turn the lights off you. hear some romantic music going you know. what I'm saying them animals are. figuring it out baby I one of the most. memorable things was the light bugs do. you remember light bugs that y have. light bugs I feel like they're extinct. bro I haven't seen any light bugs I. think there's so much light now it's in. the cities cuz in the day they didn't.

have as much you know like especially if. you're in the country you're in a. smaller environment there's not you're. not people aren't running around with so. much lights every where you might have a. porch light maybe like a flood light by. the garage yeah so right off in the. distance you would see them but now I. think also when you're in a city you if. you see a light bug in a city he lost he. got to be lost yeah you know I mean he. ain't he probably de he probably got hit. by a windshield or something like it's. tough got knocked off and now he lost in. the city that'd be a good movie wouldn't. it a lost light bul but they call them.

fireflies like I never knew understood. the Lost fly but I think fireflies are. maybe the ones that are out there. popping off they shooting bro I think. light bugs are the ones that's out there. really spreading the word I feel like. yeah cuz a light bug was amazing when. you were a kid and you saw a light bug. yeah it was cuz you didn't think it was. anything in the dark and then you see. him like literally and they they like. glow and they come back they go dark and. glow and like it's like you end up. following it's like you know it's like. at a at a kid you know how you practice. slow motion stuff it's like you would.

mimic the light bulb just going slowly. just seeing them just fly and they move. like so subtle it was and then they. disappear and you run back and tell your. parents and that's when your mom usually. like say to the dad I think he's been. smoking. dope well it was so many like we used. get fled with light bugs you know what. I'm saying we had to watch for the rats. and the cats but get fled with light. bugs yeah I remember they had cuz we. would try to catch him in a jar if my. grandmother would let would give us like. a little jar like a mason jar whatever. we try to catch him in yeah but then.

they die if you don't put the air in it. yeah they die yeah we just catch them in. our hands and let them go and we end up. squishing them and it' be sad but some. of my younger cousins they would just. take the light out of there like like. just kill just pull it out just oh dang. somebody and grew up to be electrician. probably most likely cuz that's I mean. that is intense Behavior to pull the. light out of it I I don't think they had. a lot of electricity I mean okay I think. they pulling their soul out it was the. light if something's flying around and.

they just got about half a w on them. yeah come you got take it like put it on. top of your head like ding I got had. idea to take this from. you oh that's wild man yeah I love stuff. like that I loved being like a child and. like cuz every experience was so new. everything when I was a kid was new man. that's one thing that I really miss no. like you're just so innocent yeah as a. kid like not much heartbreak not much. real failure you you know everything is.

just a new experience to you like you. always know like if I fall down I'm. getting right back up I'm contining to. play I feel like when we were young like. everyone was outside you know it wasn't. like a a video game time or anything. like that like we was outside playing we. getting to know other people we getting. into fights you know what I'm saying. yeah looking looking who who stole my. cousin bike like we going on on real. like search hunts like who stole my. cousin bike and stuff like that and then. it was your other cousin yeah that's. what I'm saying your other cousin like. who who was actually like your True. Blood cousin I know bro you know what.

I'm saying cuz cuz cuz your uncle had. another lady up the street that you a. know about and that was what it was man. they met through choir and that's what. it was man singing will bring people. together it does um yeah I loved like. little neighborhood stuff when you had. your friends and you would go outside. and see them um I loved stuff like that. we played a lot of football outside we. play in the street even too yeah you. know uh y this y'all play like throw. them up bust them up like what did yall.

play twoand Touch we would play the game. where somebody throws it up and then you. just run and hit them yeah yeah throw. them up bust them up bro yeah yeah. different yeah they and we lost some. people did you have the same hair like. cuz I feel like your hair is built for. like that type of game oh yeah but my. hair would stand out it stand out yeah. my hair catch an out rout bro I got to. raise my hands BR man it look it look. solid you know what I'm saying thanks. bro yeah you can't throw nothing through. that oh yeah I got yeah this is really. some jayen ramsy hair I feel.

like it's a real this I got some shut. down corners on this thing oh you do. lock down and that's and that he. is um you have a lot going on man in. your life right now huh I do I do bless. man uh you're going to be moving man. yeah no I am I am and uh I'm I'm happy. I'm happy for for increase I think like. that's the biggest part you know how it. is like any part of your life like you. get the TRU or how you view it you know.

and obviously you being from this city. you know how much this city is how this. city rock with like their football team. man I'm I'm excited for Cleveland bro. like I'm excited to to get to work I'm. excited to have an opportunity to to be. at you know a story franchise and and uh. and and bring them hope yeah yeah how do. you what is like the process as that. happens like like how do you find out uh. that you're going to go somewhere else. what's that process like it's like a do. hear about it first or it really is a.

surprise it's like a vetting process. well you you know you got you got some. type of inclination like when you've. been in a place for four years and you. haven't like moved up in like look at as. a company if you haven't moved up in a. company and year by year like you moving. down like eventually like they you about. to get replaced or you about to be out. of there or like they're not going to. invest invest in you or they don't think. that that you worthy of an investment. you know so you go and look for uh other. opportunities and uh the best thing is. when an opportunity presents itself to. you because then you can grasp it you.

know what I'm saying when you are in a. position where like you are starving for. opportunities like that's a little bit. more challenging you know so this one in. this case man it was a it was a great. opportunity with with Cleveland uh and. uh you know you got agents and you have. uh relationship that you build with. these coaches and GMS general managers. of the team yeah and uh and that you. feel good about it there yeah I feel I. feel good about it because how I view it. like bro it's the opportunity it's the. opportunity to impact it's the. opportunity to increase it's opportunity. to of myself right you know and I I know.

I'm a strong component of like like. change is what you make it bro yeah you. know what I'm saying sometimes we need. that that shift that par that paradigm. shift to like challenge us to put us in. a new environment you know yeah I feel. that a lot man I feel that even as like. there are moments in my own life and. career where things have been going well. and then there's moments uh where things. feel like they haven't my perception of. things is that they haven't been going. well and uh uh man sometimes I get.

scared of how I behave when things. aren't going well yeah or the feelings. that come up the fears that like take. over how I operate or um yeah I'll get. into like not as much a desperation mode. because I've had some experience with. some of it now but I do get into a uh. yeah the first thing to leave is my. faith or confidence that things are. going to be okay A lot of times yeah you. know cuz it feels scary well I think. like The Fear The Fear Part is that's.

what um that's what grabs you you know. that's what puts you in that that fight. or flight stage but when you you said. Faith Like faith is the first thing that. you should hold on to because faith is. really the things that you believe in. that you have not seen like typically. when you experience pain is something. that you have experienced you've seen it. is happened to you and I think that's. why I'm always in this position because. my faith allows me to hope for more to. want more right and like and to dig in. even deeper you know I feel like when.

you are like when you think of a seed. right everybody look at a seed like. let's let's let's do it let's do a acorn. s like you look at an acorn but a seed. it's a seed good seed too and acorn is. turn to oak trees you know what I'm. saying did you know that that's a good. point right so that seed but for that. seed to to grow into what it needs to. become it has to it has one it has to. break like that seed has to be broken. right and then it has to get rooted so. before it sprouts up has to go down into.

the Earth and and establish a foundation. so when you think about challenges right. it's telling you like it's it's the Lord. telling you like hey man like we're. going to have to have a shift you got to. get rooted in the real Foundation which. is me right which is the Lord which is. Jesus oh yeah right that's your. foundation yeah and before you can grow. up right you going to have some little. seedlings like you going to have a. little cracks in here you might have a. little little bird try to come come and. snatch you out yeah but through that. trial right you're going to be able to. turn to this beautiful oak tree and.

you're going to be able to be fruitful. and give to others through your. testimony through your experiences and. when you view when you view it from that. perspective now that fear isn't as. frightening yeah yeah no I feel that and. when we talk about like like as kids the. reason we're feel is that as kids. because we know we going to get another. opportunity we know okay if we get. scrubed on the football field okay we. got tomorrow right you know what I'm. saying but as adults those little that. we get you know those little failures.

they eat at us and we start we start. questioning ourselves like like wow like. is are they better than me or like am I. am I missing something that I that I. used to have but as a kid just like man. I'm I'm proud of the moment like we out. here again y we you know what I'm saying. I'm here but as adults it's those. conditions man like yeah the conditions. change because when you're a child you. really have so much Blind Faith don't. you even if you don't even if as a kid. you don't perceive it as faith and a.

higher power you just feel it as faith. that you're going to have another. opportunity that you got the next day MH. wow it's really crazy how much that. changes over time because yeah it's the. conditions that change yeah and then. it's um it's choices it's decisions yeah. especially as an adult as a as a kid you. don't like you making decisions but. you're making decisions off of default. right as you get older and as you get. more intentional with your work you like. like you work your tail off and you got. a strategic plan to what you're doing.

like it's some people that think they're. working but they don't they're they're. just working off default like off of. every day like I'm waking up I'm going. to work they're not designing nothing. throughout their day to actually have an. impact on their life yeah that they've. been given yeah that's kind of. interesting huh some people don't have. the opportunity some people they just. don't want to accept the challenge. probably either sometimes you need a. little bit more little bit more. gravitas and that's what you can have.

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backup quarterback like what is what do. people not know about being a backup. that's some of the tougher things. probably I think the one of the most. challenging things like you have to. prepare as if you're the starter because. the thing about the quarterback is it's. it's only one person they get every. other position has depth like they have. someone else that's align with them. that's doing essentially the same thing. that they're doing there's only one. person on the field playing quarterback. right and there's three people maybe. four in a room so all those people in.

the room are PR are preparing for that. specific role right that's wild cuz yeah. other other jobs don't have a backup. like you don't have like a backup mayor. yeah he's sitting in the Next Room he's. in there signing documents and it's like. cutting ribbons you know practicing. cutting ribbons with big scissors you. know or you don't have a backup waiter. you know like if your waiter doing you. know and he's in the parking lot he's. just running fake food out to people and. just you know yeah so that pressure. isn't right there with other jobs no.

it's it's not but it's it's uh you know. pressure is for the unprepared and. that's why you got to stay prepared like. in any role that you is but specifically. as the backup you got to prepare like. you the starter you know what I'm saying. that's why like I'm always going to view. myself as a starter because I know like. it happened to me it happened to some of. the greatest like it you are one play in. the sport that we play from your career. being over from you losing your job or. you becoming irrelevant oh Lord baby you. know what I'm saying like that's like. that is the sport that that's the.

business that we in that's the sport. that we play so I approach all that with. gratitude bro like I'm grateful for each. day I'm grateful to prepare right like. I'm going to support whoever is in front. of me I'm going support all my teammates. but brother I know what's real and what. real is any moment anytime any place. Anything Can Happen dang you know what. I'm saying y Any. Time come on man yeah I guess that's so. true I so do you see other people don't.

keep that same energy like is it a. because perspective is so much of life I. learned is about perspective man if you. could show up really with a gratitude. and really with the perspective that. there's possibility at any moment that. changes everything you become a beacon. you become a light bug for other people. at that point no well what we call to be. you know the the the the light of the. light of the earth you know uh so I. think when you in that role. it's not your job to see like are they.

doing what I'm doing or am I doing what. they doing it's your job to see man how. can I perfect what I'm doing to. encourage somebody else to perfect what. they doing so they can be their best. self wow you know like and I think that. we get so much like because we all. competing right we all we all chasing. this this rap race we all chasing. something that's greater than us right. but a lot of times we we're so busy. looking at other people yeah running. their race instead of focusing on the. race that you got to run yeah and I. think one thing I've learned through.

experience because experience like. experience is through like certain. conditions circumstances and facts like. that's what creates perspective you know. that's what gives people that wisdom you. know because they they went through. something you know yeah uh and and and. that's why you know I I always I'm. always hanging around you know like you. saw you saw I call my granddad I'm. always hanging around people that are. that are wise that are older because. their experiences are is freaking gold. bro oh yeah like they've been through so. stuff and they overcome so many.

different things like oh yeah bro the. the the the slowest way to learn is. through your experience so why not pick. somebody else's brain why not learn or. hang around somebody that's old old. senior citizen yeah bring a couple hours. with you senior citizen yeah that's. person you know what I'm saying I use. that all the time yeah get you a couple. owls baby that's what you need you know. my wife she a rice owl oh she went to. Rice yeah she went to Rice yeah oh wow I. saw oh yeah Alice you beat them the. other day I saw the women's in the. women's they did but for Rice though I. think rice just happy that they got to.

play LSU you know I mean look they're a. starch yeah that that's true you know. what I'm saying a lot of people they. used to be in a recipe and you know what. I'm saying that's what I'm saying they. actually in the mix you know when you. get Gumball you ain't thinking about the. rice you think about the the game has. changed that's a that's the uh Super. Bowl for them if they end up in a. gumball it is um you got to play with. Drew Brees for a season right and Drew I. got to meet Drew one time right so Drew.

Brees is an intense dude man he's locked. in bro you know you could see that he. you know it was at a dinner party and. you could see while he's talking to me. behind me he sees the whole dinner. scenario you know like he sees like you. know uh the waiter is in the flat you. know the bus boy gave up on his route. early the strong safeties rolling. silverware the matro D is out of. position you could see he's got a lot. going on. what do you get to learn from like.

somebody that's that like a Hall of Fame. like what is the difference in being. around somebody like that I think one. thing about Drew is like he was very. observant he very detailed and he was. very intentional with everything that he. did like so he had a mission for. everything that he was doing it was on. purpose and so real purposeful yeah so I. so I I knew what his intent was for each. day cuz he knew what his he was that's. how that's how he led he led by example. he led by you know showing you like this.

is what I'm about either you going to. join or or you going to get left behind. right and I think that's why people. follow follow him because they knew his. Direction uh but I think just s back. from afar uh learning just the X and O's. being able to see the relationship with. him in his longtime head coach Shawn. Peyton but also reading books about Drew. Brees understanding the perspective. understanding that he went through one. of his most challenging times you you. know when they won the Super Bowl you.

know uh uh I I'll let you look look up. what happened but uh he he had certain. circumstances conditions and facts that. happened in his life even in his NFL. career early on in his career uh a team. didn't believe in him yeah so he. continued to grow he didn't point. fingers blame anybody else he continued. to overcome the naysayers you know and. he set that standard every single day. and like and when you around someone.

like that like you gain that perspective. and like and that was a year that. actually like I was so grateful for that. year to sit behind a Hall of Fame. quarterback learn how he moved and. everything because me me and Drew Rees. are too like we are two separate like he. is from one side of the block I'm from. the other side of the block yeah so. being able to be around him every single. day and and just be in his presence you. know what I'm saying see how see see how. he living you know saying what you. eating over the Drew Brees you know what.

you snacking on say drew got him a Rice. Krispy treat over what you having and. one one of the greatest things like that. I learned by Drew Brees is like he. helped me with food. because his meals used to look so bad I. used to question like are we in New. Orleans like we don't got no Chef that. can cook Drew Brees some that look. better than this you know what I'm. saying like but he was so strict the way. he ate you know he was so intentional. with everything that he did wow and uh.

and I was like okay that's that's the. sacrifice that's allowing you to be the. elite of the elite you know what I'm. saying those are the those are the. disciplines that you willing to take to. be in the city like New Orleans and not. eat the stuff you know what I'm saying. not put that stuff in your body s on. there you know what I'm saying like bro. no seasoning like at all I don't even. think he probably used salt and pepper. once oh Lord thata on Christmas Eve you. know what I'm saying they they come with. everything you know what I'm saying I. know imagine yeah not even oh but no he.

was or something get him a spice rack. for Christmas yeah for real changes life. up a little doubt but you're right that. level of commitment though cuz also a. lot of salt gets into your joints and. stuff like that especially as you get. older it gets that that's a thing that. happens to people you know I think but. yeah I guess interesting to see that. just that level of. commitment and the amount of commitment. we feel like we have to make to. ourselves cuz some people hold. themselves to such a high standard. that if they don't make a certain amount.

of level of commitment to themselves. then they don't feel um. complete some people may hold themselves. to a different standard and it's fine. whatever your standard is but we all. have this level I think of where if we. hold ourselves there then and we meet. ourselves there then we feel complete. you know yeah I think it's I I know it. is uh it's great to challenge yourself. and to push new limits and go to. different heights you know what I'm. saying and be tough on on yourself but. you also got to give yourself some some.

Grace like that's where that that's. where that balance come in you know what. I'm saying like you you can't be you. can't be your worst enemy and your. biggest fan you know what I'm saying. like I that's how I get you know what. I'm saying I turn into my worst yeah. it's like I'm trying so much I end up. being my worst enemy bro but but you. being two different people you know I. feel like we talk to ourselves more than. anybody else talked to us yeah so you. got to give yourself that Grace man you. got to speak life into you more than any. else going to be speaking life into you. because I guarantee you somebody else.

they they care about their s more than. they care about you yeah so if you down. and you all the time how does how's that. going to make you feel down depressed oh. my goodness now I got to do this now I. got to do that now I got to revert to. this versus like man like if I'm like. okay I didn't fail okay I'm not the only. person to fail you know what I'm saying. okay how how I get up out of this you. know what I'm saying who I need to talk. to to get up out of this you know what. I'm saying like a lawyer usually but. hopefully we w't have to get to no legal.

that's what we trying to stay out of. some legal man you got to stay up out of. them I'm just talking about. selfesteem what what Cat Williams said. it's called self esteem you know what. I'm saying like come on you got to lift. yourself up man you got to give yourself. life that's a good point huh yeah I. think I I I wonder yeah sometimes it's. hard for me to see what the conversation. I'm having with myself is does that make. any sense yeah that makes a lot of sense. because we like I I I I'll say like this.

why do we give other people better. advice than we give ourselves I know. it's like we we counsel ourself out. because we don't listen to ourself so. when we not listen to ourselves how do. we expect to hear oursel we in this in. this funk or we in this like this this. this this mode where we like we about to. turn up we about to go go in somebody. here we mad you know what I'm saying we. not hearing ourself we just reacting in. a default we not being on purpose we're. not being intentional you know what I'm. saying we just like a little kid we.

having a anxiety attack or we spazzing. out you know all of us have those. moments but the ones are that are that. are able to you know look at those at. those moments reflect on those moments. and build off those moments and not let. those moments destroy them like them the. ones that end up being successful it's. interesting huh so much of that war is. really it's a peace talk but you have to. bring yourself to the table that's the. tough I just have sometimes I have tough. times in that moment of like this is how.

I feel right now and instead of bringing. myself to the table I'll just walk out. and start you know executing a plan you. know what I'm saying and it's not really. I haven't really brought myself into a. place of like okay how do I do this best. for me and for others and for you know. yeah yeah sometimes that's that's a. thing that I struggle with a lot. sometimes yeah man sometimes you just. got to be led by the spirit man like one. of my favorite verses is trusting the. Lord with your whole heart and lean. outto your own understandings.

acknowledge the Lord in all your ways. and he shall direct your paths you know. what I'm saying sometimes you got to. really let go and let God oh yeah the. Lord is my GPS for real like you have. but you have to be you have to humble. yourself right and just be like look I. really don't got no control of what just. happened and let me give it up let me. give it up man I know and sit there and. do nothing I should be your therapist. man I feel like I got you over here man. you ready to lay down you know what I'm. saying I can sit here Speak Life un you. brother what you need oh yeah brother.

bring it on me. brother yeah a him you. mindful play a himym mama pray for me. what's that one you ever hear. that I can still hear Mama's prayers you. ever hear that song Mama prayer that's. an old. one see if you can look that up Mama's. prayers I used to love this song. man yeah that maybe that's it at the top. let me see what is that one.

I love. it back. in street come. on at my grandmother's. house it got to be at Grandma house. always. huh and I can remember on Sunday morning. if you were in M's house. you had to get up for Sunday morning.

pray yeah he's a little chatty mve. forward yeah yeah great guy but it ain't. nothing like a good gospel song with. somebody not talking at at the very. beginning you know what I'm saying we go. there. go still hear. M Mama. pray. okay she pray.

[Music]. still me I love that one man that's I. like no doubt that's how do you like if. you're going to Cleveland how do you. guys find a new church what's that. opportunity like well first I just. called it opportunity cuz you showed me. that well you you connect you connect. with one if you know somebody on the. team that that goes to a specific Church. uh but I like this Cleveland was. actually even uh it was it was easy like.

literally when I signed with Cleveland. my dad had sent me like a YouTube of. Pastor Vernon like at the word church. and he has a huge Church in Cleveland. and I reached out to a couple friends. and like they connected me with him. instantly right so I was like okay well. I got Pastor Vernon already like so when. you in that when you getting fed like. from other people and you being led and. you walking with the Lord like it's like. the spirit find a way to connect you. like with the right people yeah so does. and and what about like your family and.

stuff was it tough to like did you find. out you have you're going to go to. Cleveland and you have to go home and. tell your wife about it or did y'all so. it's a process it's a process of like. and it was a very tough process uh you. know because my wife is like that. Comfort when you get that Comfort bug. like it's like it's tough to get anybody. off their pivot foot when they. comfortable when they good with where. they at oh yeah it's very challenging. that's me too man if I got me a like a. you give a Power Aid and sit me down. somewhere I'm leave me be for a little.

bit right well well I think uh and and. it's kind of like a especially with it. with this city because my wife her. family is from the West Bank from oh. they from the West Bank from yeah I used. to like so her dad her dad from the West. Bank and like and she was so rooted she. was so rooted here had family here and. uh and it was just tough transition is. always tough you know but you know we're. one and I want her to go with me you. know she was like hey can I stay here. like yeah baby you can stay here if you. want to whatever you want but in my back.

of my mind like I don't need you to stay. here I need to be with me I got my. babies you know what I'm saying I need. to see you and my babies you my primary. baby yeah you know so yeah you're the. tallest baby yeah don't. doubt you're the first baby you is but. uh it it's it's tough man it's tough. having to move uh but uh whether it's. tough man like it's opportunity you know. it's a it's a chance to grow you know. you got to be comfortable being. uncomfortable yeah yeah that's true man. comfort really can be your coughing you.

know I know that mhm it can get real. easy yeah no doubt challenges. challenging yourself accepting. challenges but then there is that fear. that comes with it and it's like how do. I manage the fear while I'm doing this. new thing while I'm going this way right. yeah um but Joe Joe he was telling me. something because I'm I'm talking about. like communicating with people and he. was like man when you had that fear it's. better to do than be scared. cuz you scared you just sitting there. yeah you just sitting there you just.

thinking and like he he told me I was. like I was like dang Joe like what you. doing giving me advice for man like just. do and uh and once you start doing like. eventually that fear start being in that. rearview mirror and you just leave it. you leave it there yeah cuz a lot of. times man there will be opportunities. and I get so fearful I stand there like. this like Barry Sanders and then I don't. pick nothing he went he went standing he. was he was cut and moving and getting. North and South but I wasn't I was just.

a side to side you know I just feel like. this and then the opportunities will. disappear because I didn't make a choice. yeah that happens that's happened to me. before in life you know where it's like. I just yeah instead of just going. because if you go you might realize one. is wrong and you could get both of them. right and see and find the right one um. when you were growing up I know I've. heard you talk about your dad was your a. coach you know yeah um and you guys all. lived at y'all's house y'all's family. yeah cuz yeah when I was growing up a. lot of black a lot of my black friends. didn't have families like that you know.

they didn't have that family community. yeah you know um was that like was it. popular in your area that a lot of guys. did a lot of young black men had that no. it wasn't it wasn't uh and does it make. you feel almost like would other kids. clown you because you had that cuz like. when I was growing up like in our. neighborhood if you if you made some. grades good grades a lot of kid would. clown you they would just uh just cook.

you you know for trying to do better. well I was clown more for being a nerd. making good gr oh seriously then like. having a dad in my life uh I'm very. grateful to have my father in my life. the sacrifices that he made for me has. definitely allowed me to be where I'm at. right now uh but even my dad like he. love he loved his mom he didn't have his. dad in his life yeah but the women in my. life my grandmother well my mother my. grandmothers my grandmothers my aunts U.

they were the inspiration like because. when you are in an environment and I I. had my uncles and stuff my mom was the. youngest 11 and I grew up I grew up in. in a home where you know my uncles and. aunts they all in the house and my. cousins everybody it like 20 of us you. know but it was it was perspective you. know because like it's levels to it like. you got people that are 50 you got kids. that are two you got teenagers and you. got like people that's going through a m. like Crisis yeah you know so you. learning you learning from everybody and.

you picking from like okay I probably. shouldn't be doing that you know what. I'm saying oh Grandma really don't. condone that but I kind of like that you. know so it's it's a different variety of. of things a lot of education at once. it's a lot of Education a lot of stuff. for you to learn but when you don't have. guidance when you don't have a father. who who is even if they're not perfect I. think a lot of people get caught up and. like oh like I expected you to be. perfect but you realize like ain't. nobody really perfect even if your. father or if you don't have fa even the. people around you the men in your life. the women in your life aren't perfect.

you know what I'm saying they human and. you going to go through the same human. experiences that they're going through. yeah you know so uh I never got picked. on for having a daddy uh but I. definitely got picked on for being a. nerd yeah I never got to ask somebody. you know because in yeah and I think a. lot of people look at people like like. the reason you successful because you. had a dad in your life I'm like man do. you not know who LeBron James is like he. is known for not having a dad in his. life and he LeBron James like but like a.

lot of people use that because of the. honestly the built up emotion or the. built up uh anger that they have against. another man right you know like that's. true huh like like I think that that. kind of overshadows like their. experience every I think every kid. deserves to have a daddy you know I'm. saying but it is hard out here in these. streets you know what I'm saying like. people have different personalities that. don't condone on the father might be in. the house the Daddy might want to be in.

the baby life and the mama probably. don't want him in the life or the mama. not in the baby life you know it's been. it's been I was talking to a man in the. SAA today you know and he was talking. about how his dad went his life and his. mama died when he was 10 I was like. brother that's that's tough that's. challenging and he's still he's still. doing well for himself he was talking. about we were talking about uh our kids. like like how are we supposed to speak. life into our kids he was telling me. that he had a a son that was 10 and he. loved video Gam GES and social media. yeah you know he said he had another son.

that had that was 14 had Down syndrome. he had a a step a stepdaughter I want to. get on into this man business but it was. a a true direct correlation with he a. have his dad in his life he a have his. mom in his life but he still found a way. to make something out of nothing and I. think we get so caught up in the uh oh. pity part it's like yo you ain't have a. dad in your life oh yeah bro I'm with. you like my dad wasn't in my life either. you know I'm saying oh your mama your. mama used to abuse you oh I'm with you. my mama did like but it's now let's take.

it out on the world it's like okay what. are we going to like what do the. footprint we going to leave are we going. to say that we are who we are because we. didn't have a daddy in our life or our. mama was crazy to us or we going to say. like look my my situation was not it. wasn't ideal you know but I but I know. through those through those. circumstances through those experience. that I've grew and I've gained a lot of. uh knowledge I gained a lot I went.

through a lot of pain yeah and but at. the end of the day I'm going to be the. one to decide you know my fate ah it's. my it's my respons my emotions are my. responsibility my actions are my. responsibilities now I might have. certain conditions facts and. circumstances that may have led to some. of them decisions but at the end of the. day it's still my responsibility because. when you get out of that childhood. when you get out of that kid stage and.

you an adult ain't nobody looking at you. like oh he must had a d a father in his. life right you know what I'm saying they. looking at you like on to the next one. time to grow up for real that's what it. is yeah that's a great Point man I think. there's aspects of my life where I've. like I think I was like a late bloomer. too like realizing a lot of stuff and. getting past like a lot of childhood. stuff but I'm I certainly feel like I'm. at a point now where I want to grow up. more in some areas you know and I pray. that's what I pray about each day I pray. that God makes me more willing.

to uh advance in some of these places. and to let go of some resentments and. help like soften some of the uh. discomfort that I have in places yeah CU. sometimes there's things that are still. hooking you to your past you know right. and it's like uh sometimes it's hard to. get you know like when you have like a. you had a boat dock and you got the. things tied up MH and some drunk guy. tied the one and he tied a damn. Christmas bow on something you can't get. sometimes it's like I got those I really. believe we have certain curses that are.

on us that were put on us through our. family through generations yeah you know. of of them you know living living a life. but but I also believe in that that that. bondage that true peace and you. know again let's talk about our faith. let's talk about accepting our Lord and. Savior Jesus Christ man and being. separated from all that bondage and. realizing like it is my life to I am. free from everything that I feel like. it's holding me. back to go do what I need to do for this.

world for me yeah you know and I know. it's tough like no no I know you're not. saying it's possible for everybody. easily but it's it's something we have. to hear and that that's that's why I'm. listening to you say and I'm I'm happy. to hear it today it's a message that I. need to be reminded of and I think it's. why you're even saying it right now and. we're in the same space cuz yeah I need. to be reminded of that that how long do. I want to sit and look at the chains. instead of look out the window come on. you know like how you know like at a.

certain point even my eyes are tired of. looking at those Chains It's it's truly. perspective like we man I I uh so I I'm. I'm every every year Black History Month. like I want to learn something new about. black history and obviously being from. the south like my image on slavery and. Jim Crow laws in the Dirty South is just. this gruesome image like white versus. black like man they hated us and like I. I can't believe like they look at it. they act like it's not that far uh they.

act like it's it's it's way it's 100. years from now but it's very recent um. but I but I I got I got disrespective I. was watching this ma master class uh. about uh African-American history black. history on master class and when my. perspective was changed from all the. great things that African-Americans have. accomplished besides all the the. treacherous things that. African-Americans went through I started. to see again light that's inside like. wow like I possess this man yes my.

people were enslaved yes my people went. through some terrible circumstances they. went through a rough time but man look. at how my people overcame look at the. love look at the power look at the. victory that came from all that you come. you came to a world where you were. enslaved and now we walk around free we. walk around doing whatever we want to do. walk go down Bourbon Street oh yeah and. see and see if you could if you could if. you could sense anything you know what.

I'm saying it's just it's just wildness. you know and it's and it's truly when I. get jealous of black community sometimes. they got the best origin story like I. always like the uh like if you look at a. superhero or something yeah they got. that you got to have that origin story. yeah and it's easy for me to like I'm. not going to say like oh what a unique. origin story because obviously I know. that there's tons of things that I don't. even understand in it I don't even. understand like when somebody looks in a. takes a 23 and me or something they. can't even or they don't even know past.

where their grandparents are from I. don't know what that feels like you know. I don't know right what it feels like to. be in a place where you showed up as a. commodity yeah you know like I don't. have I don't know any of what that. really feels like you know but um I do. think it's uh there is something. interesting about having a An Origin. story that you can derive if you're able. to start to turn a corner in your.

perspective um while still acknowledging. the past but to have it be uh one of. looking forward right well I think you. got to ackn knowledge the pass because. that's how you learn that's how you grow. yeah um but I but I also believe that. when you when you have a knowledge to. pass you got to you got to think about. ways that you can change it right not. think of like At first I was so into. like okay this is me like you did this.

to me like this is why I'm behind and my. dad ain't living in a multi-million. dollar house like I'm behind the. eightball right right we don't have. generational wealth cuz we couldn't have. generational wealth right but now I look. at as like man like okay I got this. light I got this opportunity let me use. it because people before me sacrifice. way more than me in this in this part. right now and they still found a way to. do it mhm so it would be ignorant of me.

to think that I'm not able to do. something right just because the. limitations and the restrictions now now. it is now system systematic racism and. stuff now it is a system right but there. but there also a victory side to it. right that you can focus on that you can. like the communities that you build like. you got to surround yourself with those. people that are thinking like that oh. yeah you know what I'm saying well the. long and if you only look at yourself as. a victim then it's impossible to really.

Advance yourself for anybody like if I. only look at the parts of me. that like if I only see myself as a. victim right that's all I see myself as. it's going to be really hard for me to. have new opportunity because I don't. have any perspective I won't even see. opportunity if it shows up man I I I. learned this this uh like I was talking. to one of my mentors and he shared this. with me and uh it kind of changed my. perspective he was like you are not what.

you think you are but what you think you. are is just a perspective like we all. think like oh I'm I'm this type of. person but we're not we're not thinking. about the stuff that we put into our. mind on a daily basis like what we think. and what we set our attention to is. really what we are not not what we may. think how people view us or how we may. even view ourself but what we thinking. like like like poor like being poor like. that's a mentality being rich that's a.

mentality like these people just got. like me meal said like it's levels to it. like when you are have a poor mindset. like man that's that's that's struggle. that that that that that's hurt that's. pain but man I didn't seen people like. with no shoes toes coming out their. shoes that are happier than ever yeah I. didn't seen people with no shoes at the. beach yeah no bro I didn't see people. with no shoes man I'm talking about.

little kids oh no shoes man and enjoy. enjoy yeah because what they're thinking. right yeah yeah I remember I've gone to. some different plac like India different. places you see these kids show up and. they're just living man you're like oh I. wish I could be as happy as this kid and. he's sitting here and he got he he's. yeah and he's got nothing for. himself um speaking of me Mill man I got. to ask dude uh did.

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hire oh you know what I just saw man. they had the two girls you know there's. a pair of conjoined women oh really and. it's a double twins tese twins brother. and they married a man one of them got. married okay you see that so I just. wonder how does that yeah. because sometimes it's hard enough. you're married yes and if some of my. in-law will get involved in a discussion.

sometimes it can be challenging right so. if you got an. in-law I mean you got a dang neck. neighbor you know I mean to each his. own oh yeah I'm just saying how tough. would it be to manage a uh I'm just I'm. what what I'm really trying to. picture like is he is he dealing with. one woman or two women yeah like that's. what I'm trying to picture because if he.

dealing with two women then right on. brother yes it's that is yeah I wonder. what. he yeah does he really want to be Mormon. I'm wondering you know or does he you. know what I'm saying does he really want. to have multiple wives I I could speak. Mormon too you know I can speak Mormon. have you ever been to a Mormon church. can you I've never been to a Mormon. church but I've had had uh a lot of. Mormon teammates and they the nicest.

people oh yeah that you can ever be a. teammate with I would be Mormon I've. been before to like uh in Salt Lake you. can go see like. um Luther what was the sorry I'm my. brain is bad. today Joseph Smith yeah you can go see. like the campus the Mormon campus and. everything it's beautiful it's stunning. over there. um jamus when you look at guys like a. like Caleb Williams has caught a lot of. flack this year I think more than to me.

it feels like just as a like a just a. fan uh it feels like he's caught more. Flack than anybody a starting. quarterback in a long time yeah who's. going to come out of the draft um they. recently they're talking about him for. having a pink phone case or just his uh. or just or fingernail polish just it. seemed like a level of scrutiny that's. it's almost gone overboard man I think. like to who much is given much is.

required and when you are um when you. are in a position as he is and when you. reach a level of Excellence that he has. attained as being an excellent college. quarterback it just comes with the. territory you know and I think in like. if I was in his shoes I I know what I. know what it's like to be scrutinized. like that on a whole different Spectrum. uh and you have to you have to focus on. who you are uh you have to get closer to. the people that's around you you got to. you got to push through that now like I.

don't I don't know about the fingernail. polish and the lipstick and stuff like. that's his that's his life you know uh. oh look we've all been to yeah. we all had a moment or something like. that's his look that's his life I know. he can play football and I know that. uh character is what you do when no one. is looking so I just I pray that he is. focusing on his character and not and. football ain't everything for him right.

and I and I know he been Oklahoma I was. a Oklahoma fan I grew up Oklahoma fan. really yeah I really did bro why though. because because Oklahoma beat Florida. State in uh 2000 that's Championship oh. so you just that's how you got on Flor. state was my daddy team so I was just. like on bandwagon I just jumped on I was. like boom soona ever since then you know. so that's why I like Baker Mayfield KY. Murray like dude I love Baker bro bro is. there anybody more fun to cheer for more. than Baker I feel like man Baker is a. dog I think he is a he he is a beast man.

he will not be denied man I mean the. opposition had him at like it's a almost. a wrap it felt like but then he's like. nuh now he out he out he doing his thing. and now look at him he's doing his thing. but there so many stories like that man. there's so many stories that people just. continue to push through like you gonna. come out on the other side yeah yeah I. feel like he's one of those guys that. everybody if you don't support Baker I. don't understand where you're at then. you know yeah just that pressure but do.

you feel like the media is at a place. where it's just it's just always going. to be like that it just feels like this. year like they've gone crazy on him like. who cares like it's a young guy trying. to be a good quarterback man and like. these are. kids that they're scrutinizing but in in. in the common eye you can be a kid but. if you a celebrity you a grown man right. and like and now everyone so entitled to. say whatever they want to say you know. what I'm saying and like and as as media.

we are attracted to those negative. things like we not attracted to like oh. Caleb Williams had a football camp with. 300 uh kids and like he gave everybody. the free Jordans you know what I'm. saying we not attracted to those yeah. Caleb Williams made a nice pasta you. know yeah I don't know I don't think he. a pasta person but I don't know it. definitely seem he I mean d who knows. he'll probably have a dang House wear's. Collection in a couple months according. to the media you know doubt he'll be.

have a flat wear line um but no I think. it's like yeah nobody wants to but yeah. we don't look at we don't gravitate. towards that man I don't think I don't. think like the world like life like. obviously we say life ain't fair but. people's opinion really not fair bro. like like what do you mean like I mean. like everyone gets this public persona. but no one really knows who that person. truly is 100% you know like and again.

let's go back to the social media thing. like social media has some great stuff. but again like I know people that are. broke as a dog and if you look at their. social media yeah they flexing they like. they got jewelry on they puppy the puppy. goddamn gold. earring I'm like what are you trying to. portray like we know you. yeah you know I'm saying like who you h. from yeah you sleeping in my back. bedroom bro I just paid your light bill.

the other day like what you doing huh. like don't don't let my my gratitude. ruin you yeah huh yeah you going to go. to the club and spend $200 you can't. spend $200 at the club you spend all the. money I G golly that is true H taking a. picture in somebody else Booth you know. what I'm saying they went to the. bathroom they standing up in the boo D. like how you get. there goly your are strong. yeah I know that is true it's. interesting um what else did I want to.

think about yeah I guess just being in a. new place have you gone to Cleveland yet. and picked out a home and everything man. I I went to Cleveland uh uh I haven't. picked out a home yet but it was like it. was really like eye opening it was like. cuz people people rip on Cleveland a lot. you know they do and it's a beautiful. city but like obviously when we talk. about Cleveland they say it's cold it's. going to be cold up there and when you. come from Tampa in New Orleans like it. don't really get cold here you know and. then it was get cold maybe in the. freezer section at Rouses that's it bro.

but it was one of the moments where like. I'm I'm getting my physical you know and. it was cold when we got. there but uh her name was Julie she say. yo it's snowing I was like it's w it's. snowing I here in March like I ain't. never seen no snow in March so I sent a. video to my wife I was like hey baby. look it's snowing and she's like I am. not a kid jamus you don't have to tell. me it's snowing I see it's snowing you. know I like I don't want to see no snow. right now I want to see the beach I was.

like right bet you got it you know but I. guess they going to talk about back to. the drawing board no for real like you. like you started all over again that's a. husband's job is just to start all over. again I'm just you know I just I hit it. with like well you know this going to be. our first Christmas where the babies get. to play in the snow you know what I'm. saying they she's like it's almost May. jamus real doing Christmas in me for. real no what's that like being a husband. man was that scary for you or it was. very scary for me man but like that's my. high school sweetheart and like man you.

talking about fear like like commitment. to one person is that is fear you know. because your life is in their hands and. their life is in in your hands so when. you're maneuvering and when you have all. these different experiences that's. coming at you you have to you have to be. strong man you have to be strong and. know like this this is my priority this. is my love like this is my first love. right whatever can be attracted to my.

eyes or anything outside of that like it. it doesn't I don't condone that you know. and and plus my girl like she a Og man. like she was like really the dream like. I was a football player and obviously I. was athlete in in high school and she. was a Hooper like you know back in the. day loving basketball that was. everything so oh yeah that was romantic. my whole my whole thing was like man. like I wish I knew how to play. basketball so I could have a loveing. basketball moment but boom like bless me. with a girl that can hoop that was. pretty had all these the the best eyes.

like her eyes I just stand her eyes and. it's just like God girl like what what. you doing what you doing with them eyes. but like when I was blessed with that. eyes I was like my heart was was took. you know what I'm saying yeah y'all are. right there yeah that's us man hey y'all. in the y'all in the water baby getting. it huh that's in our house man we did we. did the we in that house oh that's. beautiful man got my my brother in them. that ain't my brother for real but. that's like my that's my life coach ton. he right there that's your life guard.

too he a d he sh that ain't the shallow. wind I don't think hey it's a step and. look and we tried to we had him on a. brick so he'll be level and like he. slipped off the brick you know what I'm. saying doing the ceremony we was like. all right man we know you dedicated yeah. oh that's cheating at the combine if you. standing on the. brick I know that man he he like I I. don't think nobody was expecting to get. you know they they uh pants wet but I. was like we got to get in the water like. because this what it is it's water we.

got to be flowing like we got to be. water together I love it man I like that. man you just kind of make your choices. and that's it for you you know it seem. like your self-confidence is at a unique. is it is really unique compared to other. people man yeah do you were you always. like that do you feel like or was that. something that was kind of buil you. think it was just a gift that you had I. feel like it's it's it's still growing. uh I've always been confident uh in. myself but more importantly in my faith. you know what I'm saying like I was. rooted in the church like old southern b. or old southern baptist from when you.

were little from when I was little like. but when I actually started to know God. and I start to understand like that I'm. fighting from Victory not for victory. like then I I I just I took a different. approach I took a different approach to. the way that I live and and I think it's. like the accumulation of really like who. you surround yourself like seeing other. people that's like walking like firm. that are strong brothers that ain't like. Luke form like that gives you that. confidence like that gives you that. affirmation to be like okay like man I.

need to like what am I doing like you. said you question yourself it's been. some a lot of times where I've. questioned myself it's been some lot of. times in the NFL where I just like man. like like who am I like what I got going. on you know what I'm saying but at the. end of the day I had to dig deep and. just be like okay like this is who I am. right you know what I'm saying like get. back to your to your foundation what is. my Foundation if I don't if I don't. believe in this Foundation that I built. then why did I even build it then why. you have to yeah I'm not here for no.

reason right I'm here for a purpose my. own unique purpose right so I gotta live. it know what I'm say dang man I might. try out for somebody you can do it bro. yeah the Colts might need someone I. don't know who needs somebody right now. um what do you think about this new rule. with the hip drop tackle do you have any. thoughts on it yeah I think I think it. is uh they're trying to make the game. safer but as as I've been in the league. you know I've seen it Trend to be more. of a you know a player friendly league I.

think it takes an incredible amount of. discipline and uh and athletic ability. as people that are actually making those. tackles to avoid making that tackle so I. think like when you make a rule like you. say okay this is the rule we can't do. this no more but as athletes being. trained a to do a certain way like for. years for for their whole life yeah to. just get somebody on the ground any way.

possible I think is challenging man and. and I and I'm and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm. happy for player safety but at the same. time like I know like I'm from Alabama. like we love football right however if. if you get if you run across the middle. and somebody take your head off that's. football get back up are you okay your. chin strap okay what you say how many. fingers I got you know what I'm saying. okay come on we we about to do it again. you know saying I'm drop back in the. pocket somebody come slap me on my head. like okay I want that 15 but like hey.

like okay I see you came to play today. okay like it's just it's the Brotherhood. and it's the like like we Warriors out. there man like I said earlier like man. we One play away from our career being. done you know so I do respect NFL making. this player safety uh protocol and like. doing everything they can to help you. know prolong people's careers but I. think it's tough I think it's tough on. the players yeah yeah I think it's. interesting to see like and if you keep. making like I worry about if you put so.

much in the hands of the referees. because there's a lot of people start to. say that a lot of speculation you see of. people saying that things are fixed or. organized or you know gambling is a lot. more just in our everyday life now every. other commercial is for it you know I. mean we advertise it it's like it's. everywhere so I just wonder if when you. put stuff more in the hands of the. referees too and give them in one more. space where it could be a crucial call. in a playoff game next year right um.

what does that look like you know how. how weird is that you know when you when. you look at the field U you know a lot a. lot of times people just see the two. teams right team a team. Bay but bro you forget it's another team. out there and they got on black and. white yep right and they're working. together like a lot of these a lot of. the referees like when you get to know. them like bro like they're insurance. agents they're not even doing it year. round you know this is a hobby for them. to make you. know six for real make six figures just.

to what you. doing huh get on side you know saying a. mixtape one dude he but yeah I know they. had a one video some guy he tapped into. the make the announcement and he played. half a track off of his mixtape and. people were like what is even going on. here it is is is you got to think about. how tough it is first to make ingame. decisions oh to police grown men that. are playing at the fastest level so I. got a lot of respect for the referees. but man like it's a third Team bro like.

you playing against two teams you're not. just playing against the the other team. you playing against two teams because. you know they have the rules and. regulations and this their job but they. can dictate a game now as as a leader uh. as a coach or or a person of of. influence like you can't say we can't. we're not going to allow the refs to. dictate this game but they have a. certain level of authority that can't if. they make a call and they're human just.

like us if it's a mistake they ain't. going to say oh my bad like literally. look we write reports after the game. coaches are send sending in okay this. was a penalty this was a penalty and. you'll get a letter back this was a. penalty sorry nuh uh I don't know if. they s sorry like sorry is very polite. but they they'll literally be like this. Emoji this a there a for real yes like. that was the penalty all right move to. the next one yeah and he like what we. can't get that play back I no and it's.

crazy well yeah the was it that famous. play in New Orleans that happened too I. think this was before you were here. whenever there was a pass interference. against the Rams it took them from going. to the Super Bowl I mean that changes. Drew B from having a dynasty operation. and pton to things being you. know he still he's still challenging um. here you go right here John hussy is a. sales representative has been a referee. for n. Seasons Alex Kemp an insurance agent has. been a referee for six seasons in his.

six season Kay Martin is a high school. administrator D he a damn principal yeah. and a basketball coach he reading term. papers during on his phone probably at. halftime yeah uh Scott Novak is in his. Fifth Season as a referee Brad Rogers is. a college. professor um Ron torbert's an attorney. yeah you already know it he been a. referee for 10 season what is going on. we we got uh we got somebody in. Aerospace uh-uh uhhuh Adrian Hill he he. in Aerospace oh wow an engineer they got.

they got different careers man like. that's what I'm saying like our our. livelihood is on the game yeah it says. Craig waret is a drill. rapper but this is I mean this is. unbelievable oh my goodness but we got. get they got to get some guys that are. just referees yeah no they're not man. that thing times a change man it is um. what else we got Easter coming up man. y'all G to celebrate what you guys got. going on yeah we uh we gonna celebrate.

Easter have a beautiful parade in New. Orleans too they do it's at 2 p.m. I. think it's in the French Quarter I've. seen it a couple times when I was. younger but it's nice man I never been. to the Easter Parade it's nice what. y'all do Easter egg hunt or something go. to church and uh the boys did the Easter. egg hunt uh early this week so we don't. have to do no Easter air hunts but uh we. we going to uh it's a spring break this. year so we going get out of. town next week. yeah any other stuff you guys want to.

look at. [Music]. man where y'all going to go up to. Cleveland or no not now we gonna wait. till it's summer summer before we go up. to Cleveland okay for the family go up. there I'm GNA be up there in two. weeks um Scott Veta I think played for. yeah linebacker Cleveland as well and. the. Saints he's a really neat guy Demario. Davis he he came oh yeah deorio plays I. see him in Nashville sometimes that's. where I live at yeah no that's where he.

lives oh it is I see him sometimes we'll. he'll poop in the same we go to the same. IV place oh for real and he'll uh I I. never said Hey to him but I seen him in. there yeah he's a big guy he a great. brother is he he great bro he phenomenal. yeah like he he's one of those men that. being in the locker room with like. seeing the way that he walks seeing who. he is every single day inspire me to be. a better man you know and and inspire me. to check check my engine light and just. be like okay like what what we really. got up in here you know what I'm saying. what's really inside yeah I think uh oh.

wow this is something right here monkeys. have taken over the city of. lbri outside of Bangkok goe monke go. ahead monkeys but this Jam this seem. like a look at this man but I'm this. what I look. at they together like they they fighting. look it's a silver war it's a monkey. silver war this is real planet other the. Apes y'all like do you see how. like assembled they is that's a good. point look at the front lines they had. right there go back a little bit man.

come on bro they got a dang General out. there with them huh no really it's. planet of apes look nature bro I'm. telling you but they really tunning like. it's really like they. fine like look they ain't attacking no. civilians like they all at each other. like this is real planet of the eight. y'all thought it was a game this is real. and look then they going back to the. look retreating that's lunch time but. bro like do they live there do they live. in that Palace no they take it over like.

oh my gosh I've never seen like we don't. we don't even get that organized these. monkeys was organized like front lines. look like one of them had a whistle. saying charge like golly yeah the. monkeys is why look like Bill parcel. with their coach but they really I feel. like they put together like they got a. Rob Ryan defense going on over here they. structured Miss Easter man jamus I think. we got to eat a W for the Lord man can. we do it let's eat a W for the Lord man.

please all right brother toast it up man. he has risen brother. dang jamus Winston man thanks for uh on. behalf of New Orleans man we want to. just thank you man I think it's been so. fun to to have your energy around man. yeah just I think even just today it's. like you never know what things you're. going to hear like whenever we do a. podcast you know you never know. sometimes if it's going to be just. having fun or joking around or if you're. going to need to hear some words that. you need to hear you know so I.

appreciate it man no I appreciate you. bro uh I'm really inspired by like your. story like how you had a paradigm shift. man how you a man of increase man and. for you to be vulnerable enough to share. with me some of the stuff that you be. still going through I think like that. has a that that has a human element for. the success that you have already like. accumulated right in the work that you. put in like when Joe told me you was you. was just in Australia and then you just. took a red eye over here just to come. talk with me also and also have a show. you know just what you put in man is you.

you know you you living on purpose bro. and I'm I'm grateful to be in your. presence and and do this with you bro. gang thanks jamus Winston man best of. luck in Cleveland uh oh. yeah yeah crew gave me this new one. right here bro that's the logo that's. the Jabo wins huh yeah that's the ja WIS. you know what I'm saying that's a and. Cleveland color so dog pound go get your. t-shirts wow Theo got the first one all. right all right you can be next yeah. yeah you can be next right there awesome.

man thank you so much for your time bro. thank you brother now I'm just floating. on the breeze and I feel I'm falling. like these leaves I must be. Cornerstone oh but when I reach that. ground I'll share this piece of mind I. found I can feel it in my. bones it's going to. take.