Jake Paul | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #650

Uh just a reminder that um tickets for. Bus Boys the movie uh with myself and. David Spade um are on sale right now. Pre-sale tickets you can get them. Um. it's in theaters April 17th, but if you. get tickets now, it'll show the movie. theaters that we're going to sell them. uh or that they are selling and then we. can expand to more theaters. So if you. know when you're going to go and um and. you can support that would be great and. no pressure if you can't. Uh again, the.

pre-sale tickets are available uh. busoysmov.com. Um I'm excited. Thank you. Today's guest. is a Renaissance man. He's a content. creator, uh an entrepreneur. Um he's a. professional boxer and he has political. aspirations possibly. Uh we'll find out. Uh this is my first time getting to sit. down with him and really uh have a talk. So I'm grateful for that. Today's guest. is the problem child, Jake Paul.

>> And I [music] will find a song. [music]. >> It's Procreate name for everybody. >> Can you believe they let anybody make a. kid? That's wild. I I think it's a massive problem. [laughter]. just like anyone could have a kid. It is.

crazy, bro. >> Bro, like. when I look at people, I'm like, yo, what the [ __ ] is this guy doing? [laughter] He's got a kid. He's going to. raise this kid. It the kids going to be. worse? Like, well, we'll talk about. Logan after a while, dude. But. [laughter]. I'm talking about just in general. I'm. just joking, Logan. Uh but [laughter] uh. I'm talking just about in general, dude. Yeah. The fact that they don't put birth. control in the suboxin first of all or.

something like like methadone with birth. control. You think there just and if you. don't finish school, you shouldn't get. more than one kid. I don't think there. should be like a certificate that you. got to you got to fill out some. paperwork for to [laughter] get a kid, bro. To be honest, you got to pass the. IQ test, honestly, or some [ __ ] like. that. Even a low IQ [laughter] test. would feel bad. like ah these these. people and and and by the way it's like. the movie Idiocracy which by the way is. like fully coming to life. >> Yeah. >> You mean the historical drama Idiocracy?

Yeah. I mean yeah I agree. It was like a. it used to be a comedy movie but now. it's like. >> it's art now. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> It's like oh my god we're here. >> Yeah. >> Like and by the way [laughter]. >> Brondo like the electrolyte drink in it. is like prime. >> [laughter]. >> Bring it up as electrolytes. Bring up Brondo. That's hilarious. [laughter]. >> Bro, bring up a clip from that. Yes, >> bro. Look at the president with the.

machine gun. [laughter]. This looks [ __ ] good. >> Yeah, this is where we are. And yeah, that's a prime uh business meeting right. there. [laughter]. >> Or that's No, I'm joking. But that Yeah, it's where we are. >> And by the way, we're Celsius partners. Yeah, >> we love Celsius. >> Are you Celsius partner? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Me and you both.

>> I'll have a little I gave a little to my. buddy's cat the other day. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> How did it do? >> He likes kind of the cherry cola flavor. He didn't have a lot. >> Did I like do something cooler or No, >> I mean, we haven't seen him. So, this. cat is really It's a wild cat. He's a. BLM activist. >> That cat was living fit, bro. Like, he. just disappeared. [laughter]. >> He hit a gym like 30 miles away. So, >> he turned into a [ __ ] iron. marathoner, >> dude. He's dating a dog now. He's. [ __ ] [laughter] He's crushing it, dude.

>> Yeah, it's changing it's changing the uh. animeic sex order, dude. Um, dude, good. to see you, dude. I saw this picture of. you the the other day. Um, see if you. can pull this up or there was a picture. of a of a pet that we saved. Speaking of. pets, that one of them looked like you. and tell me if you think it's fair or. not. And this is I'm not. >> That's pretty good. >> Got one. Yeah. >> I would say that's a that's that's a. that's a great compliment.

>> Yeah, that's. >> I thought it was going to be much worse. Oh, dude. [laughter]. >> I thought you were going to show like a. [ __ ] lemur or. >> something on his leg or something. [laughter]. I was like, I'm honored that this is he. thought of me, bro. [laughter] Yeah, >> bro. Cuz every time I look at you, I. just see Joe Dirt. So, it's just like. >> the soil's rich. >> Uh, yeah, dude. Um, I do feel like Joe. Dirt. Me and Spade have a movie that we. made that's coming out. >> I'm so excited for it. Bus Boys.

>> Yeah, Bus Boys. So, we made it ourselves. and everything, so that's exciting. Um, >> was that hard, by the way? Did that make. it harder to like self-fund and stuff. like that? make the movie. >> like what part of making it? Getting it. done or getting it in theaters or. getting. >> all Yeah, theaters I think. Yeah, all of. it. >> Getting in theaters I think people were. some people called and were like, "Dude, how'd you guys get it into theaters?". >> You know, and so that part I think was. kind of tough. The tough parts were just. all the spaces you have to stay involved. with. You think like, "Oh, somebody else.

does that." And you're like, "Oh, no. There's no there's nobody else." And so. it just falls back on you. I'm sure it's. >> Yeah. Are you nervous like for the. outcome? Because I think you know like. you just see a lot of movies with the. biggest names these days with super big. budgets and the you know all the people. behind them and then it flops. Like are. you nervous about that? >> Yeah. >> Because it's public. >> Like even I've had a couple of fights. where it's like the pay-per-views. weren't as good but it's private info.

>> Yeah. I think there's a part of me like. I I like to be like kind of in control. of what I do, right? And so that's why I. was waiting to do something where it's. like um we wrote it, we made it's our. own thing. So at least in the end I do. feel like we did a good job and I got to. do it with somebody really like who's. amazing and est and like established in. that universe. >> Um. yeah, I think it is scary because you. don't want it to affect how people think.

about you or feel about you. They may. just not be like, "I care about seeing a. movie this weekend." And it's almost to. the weekend. Like, nobody buys a ticket. for a movie 3 weeks in advance. I. thought we'd put it out and be like, "Oh, it'll all sell out." Like a like. you like maybe with a comedy show, but. with a movie, it's like you kind of have. to wait till that weekend. And it's. probably similar with like a. pay-per-view. No, 100%. And we actually. like base our fights around making sure. there's no other big events. Um, like. the last fight on Netflix, like third.

third biggest fight ever with Joshua, 35. million viewers live, but it was the. same weekend as Avatar the same day. So, it plays into it like would we have. gotten 5 million more viewers? It's just. something interesting to think about. But, um, sometimes you can't choose. another date. So, >> yeah, we just Yeah, I think I'm. definitely a little bit spooked about. it. I'm a little uh I'm nervous about.

I'm also kind of excited about it. And. if I think if it doesn't go great, it's. okay. It's like, you know, I hope it. does because we want to be able to make. more stuff and help other people make. more stuff that don't get like like. there's no studio attached to it. It's. like nobody told us anything we could. put in or out of the script. Um, so it's. all our own thing. So. >> So it's not woke. >> Yeah, >> it's not woke, dude. We got an. 8-year-old saying [ __ ] in it, you know. [laughter]. >> And I don't, bro.

>> And he didn't mean it. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> And by the way, you paid him to say it. >> Yeah, that's true. >> So you're you're you're invoking abuse. >> Yeah, >> Theo. >> But we paid him handsomely, you know. [laughter] So it is what it is. Hey, we. didn't touch him. >> Honestly though, honestly, like. >> we're already better than half. >> This is my problem with people saying. the word [ __ ] Yeah. Is that like I would. never say it. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Like so it's just like [ __ ] up to say. fat. Oh yeah. I don't say it. [laughter].

>> So uh but yeah, let's uh what else is. going on? >> What don't you say? [laughter]. >> I don't say it. I'll say it really. I. will say it very fast because some. people are wondering what I don't say. and I'm not going to be and you won't. even know when I'm going to say it. So. [laughter]. that was it. and I didn't even say it. So, and. who knows, I might be a homosexual when. I get older after I get married and and. leave my wife. [laughter].

>> So, and that's why. >> you're [ __ ] smart [laughter]. cuz. >> you're hedging like you're saving. You're you're an investor. You're a. forward thinker. >> Yeah. You're You're literally a. Renaissance man because at least you can. [ __ ] admit that you might be a f. later in life. >> Whoa, bro. I'm not going to be some. crazy. I will be just a guy who is doing his. best who [ __ ] is pissed off at one of.

his friends and [laughter] lets him. [ __ ] jerk him off one time. I'm not. going to be some guy who's holding hands. and going to like a market or something. [laughter]. So anyway, now that our careers are both. over, uh, [laughter]. >> no, we still got Celsius, though. Oh, yeah, we do. >> They'll never leave us. >> Oh, dude, two sips of this, you'll come. on your buddy's bad, dude. [laughter]. Um, dude, you did you see that uh Did. you see that Drewuski skit? What do you. think? >> You know what's so funny.

is that I wanted to talk about this with. you. Really? >> Yeah. I mean, this [ __ ] is crazy. when she. starts doing that. >> Oh my god. >> What What What are What are your. thoughts? >> I thought um It's so bizarre. It's one. of his more bizarre videos. I mean, it's. it's hilarious, dude. She's in this. space. I wish they had gone a little. more into like the stuff with the.

husband and what could have happened, but I don't think black people like mess. with people's families and [ __ ] that. much. They don't go into that kind of. area very much. Um, yeah. I mean, Drew's. just, you never know what he's going to. do, bro. And this sets that precedent. like like nothing else. I mean, look at. this, bro. This could be [ __ ] you or. Logan in 40 years, dude. [laughter]. You know what I'm saying? [laughter]. And not in a bad way, dude. Y'all look. good. [ __ ].

>> Yeah. No, honestly, [laughter]. >> dude. This is Hulk Hogan's whole family. in one picture. >> This is Hulk Hogan. Yeah. No, honestly, it's [ __ ] hilarious. I loved it. And. I'm I'm obviously Republican and like. all the Republicans being mad about this. [ __ ] is like a [ __ ] L for Republicans. because this is [ __ ] hilarious. And. even though it's [ __ ] dark and. twisted, um, and it's and it's not maybe. the the it's this is what comedy [ __ ].

is. >> Yes. >> Like agree. >> This we are [ __ ] humans. Let's make. fun of ourselves. And there's truth in. this. Yes. >> Um, and and extreme truth. And people. weren't ready for that, but but. >> uh I I think it's [ __ ] hilarious. And. um I want to ask you something because. [clears throat]. I've been over the last couple of days.

calling um makeup artists and I was. going to do a response to this and like. go and do like the fullon darker. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> And do it and just do it back because. why not? >> Yeah. >> Like are we on the same playing field? Like I think if you if there's a way to. do it. Oh, this ain't going to end in. well this even this sentence. But if. there's a way to do it, I've been here. many times. If there's a way to do it, I.

think yeah, I think there needs to be. some black support for. the character. I think like I'm saying. like say if uh Duski or um I'm trying to. think of somebody else. Um, >> Charles Barkley. >> Charles Barkley. If you got one of those. guys to be like, "Hey, Theo, I want you. to do this skit with me. Let's do this.". >> But but still, that's that's pussying. out. >> You think it is? >> Yeah.

>> To me, there's a level of like, doesn't. that make. us. more um. like prejudice? >> Oh, like more prejudice. That that makes. us if we have to partner with someone. Duski just dropped this. >> and he's done it a couple of times. actually. >> Exactly. >> I [clears throat] [ __ ] love it. >> This is great. This is how humans should. be. >> I agree. >> We should [ __ ] make fun of each. other. And I don't see in color, I see.

in truth and comedy. So like. >> what are we talking about? >> So you're saying what what era are we. living in? You know, dude, >> Justin Trudeau did and he's he's. freaking dating Katy Perry. You see that Justin Trudeau the mayor of. freaking. >> I was just with him. I was just with. them. >> No, you were not. >> Yeah. At the at the JP Morgan summit. >> He was beef facing. Look at him right. there in the middle. Look at the one in. the hat. >> He got caught for this before. >> Yeah. Look how dark he went. >> I mean he went but but to be fair that.

picture is in black and white so we. can't tell how how dark he [laughter]. went. But that's fair. That's kind of. fair. >> [laughter]. >> What about Jimmy Kimmel when he was. blacking around over there? Bring that. up. Huh? Hey, hey, hey. Look at him just. blacking. I mean, look at that. Even the. cross eyes. That's Jimmy Kimmel. >> Yeah, that's not Shaq. That ain't [ __ ] Shaq, dude. That. looks healthier than Shaq, >> dude. There's [laughter] no way that's.

Jimmy Kimmel, >> bro. And look, bro. And look, by the. way, >> that is Jimmy Kimmel. Look at [ __ ]. Jimmy Kimmel [ __ ] on the left. Untouchable. Yeah. >> What the [ __ ] bro? >> Yeah. >> Why? How can they get get away with this. [ __ ] The [ __ ] that pisses me off, it's. like like kids can't be black for. Halloween, dude. You know, like a kid is. his favorite athlete. He never grew up. with anything racist in his heart or. anything. >> Yeah. And he wants to he wants to be. LeBron the [sighs] Halloween. This kid.

is just like [ __ ] getting penetrated. by haters. That's the problem. There's. too many haters out there. But look, Drewki's doing this [ __ ] Craziest one. he did was the one where he spit on a. black guy out of a car dressed as a. white guy. [laughter] You see that one? Bring up that country when we. >> I didn't see that one. >> He drives up. But bro, honestly, bro. >> Nuhuh. No more. This is insane. [laughter]. >> No more honesty from you, dude. Right. now. No, I got a lot more. [laughter].

Oh, hold on. There's another Look at. this part right here. Yeah. after this. >> Bro, how many? >> Right here. Watch this. >> You lost, bos. >> No, I'm going to the race. >> What race? >> NASCAR race. >> You going to NASCAR? Yes, sir. Hello, [ __ ]. >> You ain't lost, did you? >> What the [ __ ] is going on? >> Sure about that? >> Yes, sir. Okay, so this brings up the. actual point of like. >> it's TIME [groaning and screaming].

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responsibly. Thank you, Moonpay. I you know what? I think you're right. I. think it's a good discussion and I'm. glad that you brought it up cuz. sometimes Yeah. It's like I don't even. have anybody that's even semi you're. like the kind of the blackest guy we've. had in here in a while and. >> people tell me that a lot. [laughter]. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah. >> You're blacker than Logan. >> That guy is white. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> I mean, but he's basically Hulk Hogan. Oh, dude. He is probably I went to Hulk.

Hogan's funeral, which was pretty crazy. But anyway, did. you uh Oh, dude. At his funeral, nobody. knew Jim McMahon was there. And uh who's Jim McMahon? >> Vince McMahon. >> Vince McMahon. Jim McMahon showed me his. [ __ ] one night. He used to play for. the Bears. He showed me his [ __ ] one. night at a uh Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And shout out Jim. He showed me his.

[ __ ] and I didn't even ask about it. and he. >> What? What? So, how did he show you his. ass? >> It was outdoors. He was reenacting. something and uh and he showed me his. [ __ ] But he's awesome. >> Honestly, the the the more people I meet. in life and like. >> he showed me as Richard Dent, you know, that's just an old Bears player who. played at the same time and that's just. such a crazy statement. Okay, go on. The. more people. >> No. Yeah. The more the more people I. meet, the more weird. Like I think Yeah. Like people are [ __ ] weird, bro. >> Yeah. And they want to show [ __ ].

[laughter]. >> People do, bro. >> It's the 11th finger. >> So this is the problem is like I was. raised right in a sense. But like. >> what, bro? I'm saying I'm saying like. the the richer you get, the less um. normal experiences become for you. So. you have to do something different. Yeah. >> To feel something. M. >> and I don't fall under that category, >> but a lot of these people do.

>> Oh, you seem like you're trying to like. take yourself out of the files right now. or something. [laughter]. >> But dude, you got to I'm sure you've run. into some wild [ __ ] dude. [laughter]. >> I'm just saying you caught me. [laughter]. >> You [ __ ] caught me, bro. You're good. You're good. You're good. [laughter]. >> [ __ ] It's a mullet. I think it makes. you smarter. >> [ __ ] bro. You caught me. >> That's my new character. It's a black.

detective. [laughter]. He He figures it out. >> Yeah. Encyclopedia Brown as [ __ ] dude. [laughter] That's who he is, bro. >> You're a [ __ ] genius, bro. >> No, >> you caught me, bro. >> Dude, you and I should not be declaring. anybody a genius, [laughter]. bro. We are [ __ ]. >> wrong. >> No, you're just saying something loud. You're just saying something. defensively. Hey, bring up that fish. that's in a wheelchair. Have you. [laughter] seen that? Bring up that wheelchair fist. Somebody. build up, >> bro. The yo, if you don't think you're a. genius, then you should like have some.

self-reflection. Do Do you actually not. think you're a genius? >> No, not at all. >> Not at all. >> That's a big problem for yourself. >> Look at this. Look at this [ __ ] they. got. You don't think anything's. possible, dude? [laughter]. >> Look at this [ __ ] You trying to fight. that thing next, dude? Look at that. [ __ ]. >> This is a perfect opponent for me. [laughter]. wheelchair and two IQ is is who I'm. looking to fight. He still has a one. fight deal with the UFC, but you got to.

[ __ ] We'll get him out. We'll face. him. We'll get [laughter]. But this is what we're [ __ ] living. in, dude. People can't eat and we're. [ __ ] building fish. Wheelchairs, bro. [laughter]. >> So anyway, and that's also. >> I'm not going to lie though. >> Like, and you know what the fish's name. is, dude? Joe Biden. That's the craziest. part. That [laughter] makes sense. Why he's in. a [ __ ] wheelchair? I know. >> This is This is comedy gold. Like, oh,

it's comedy gold fish, dude. We're. [ __ ] [laughter] We're [ __ ] dude. This is horrible. All we've done is is. lobby for [ __ ] blackface [laughter]. this whole pod. >> and nothing else, dude. But we're going. to keep it moving, man. Do you think. [laughter] um. Okay, let's let's start over. Okay. Do. you think Erica Kirk had anything to do. with the husband's death? Let's switch. it up. >> Let's switch it up. And that's. mouthwash, you know. But yeah, keep. having some. [laughter] Do.

>> I love Listerine, bro? >> It's a [ __ ] good stuff. That's a new. listing green apple. >> Bro, you. >> You're funny. >> I don't know if you I don't know if you. can ask that question. >> You're pretty funny. >> Okay. [sighs]. I don't know. I'll talk about a lot of. things, but I I I don't think I'll talk. about Charlie Kirk and his. assassination. Okay. >> The sensitive details around it. >> Oh, dude. I don't even want to [ __ ]. talk about it. It's just on a list of. stuff. So, [laughter].

>> I'll keep it moving. >> Some some AI you chat GBT what to ask. Jake Paul [laughter] and it told you. this. >> It was like. >> what will go most viral. >> It said things Jake Paul could handle. And yeah, one of them was frigolf. One. of them was oh, the Tiger Woods DUI. That was kind of crazy. Let's talk let's. let's let's brush on that because people. deal with addiction, people deal with. that stuff. It's something I've dealt. with. Um that was kind of a surprise to. me. I was kind of surprised to see that, you know. Have you ever played golf with.

Tiger? [laughter]. >> No. Um I don't No, I don't play golf. I. I mean, bro, like it's a second time. thing for him, right? Yeah. But it's. been like a decade since the last time. So, it just seems like maybe he was. going through a tough patch. Yeah, it's. tough, bro. It's tough. Did you ever. struggle with anything like that? >> Yeah, for sure. For sure. Like, um. especially when I was younger, there was. a phase where um I was just like going.

through a really rough time in a lot of. ways in life. um suicidal. um lost a lot of money and. had terrible people around me. And so. that was a that was a time that you were. what were drinking or was like a thing. cuz I've been in you know like I've been. in sobriety in and out of sobriety over. the past like 10 years. It's a [ __ ]. tough road you know and you try your. best. I've been in like [ __ ] for like uh. sex, love addiction, intimacy disorder,

all of that [ __ ] you know? I should. probably be in like a [ __ ] wheelchair. or whatever, you know. [laughter]. And that's real talk, man. Praise God. >> You praise God. No. >> Damn. >> It It's But but see how you're healing. with it and you're sitting here today. doing great things in life and people. love you and I love you and you're a. genius and you're an amazing guy and you. just like worked through it, but you're. like honestly healing with it. It goes.

back to like comedy. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's why you're funny as. [ __ ] And m you're making fun of. yourself and it makes it acceptable to. your uh traumatized. version of yourself. So yeah, but um I I've been in dark. places as a kid. Like it's the funny. like Disney star, crash out, bankrupt, money, money, money, bad people around you, drugs, alcohol,

party, LA, girls, girls, girls. T Yeah. >> And it just like it's like a [ __ ]. cycle out there. So my my biggest advice. to people is don't [ __ ] live in LA. and like go into that ecosystem. Um. because I'm a product of it, but it's. not me. I I had to. um [clears throat] heal from it and like. but it it it's just was going to happen. that way. So um no matter who goes out.

there, no matter who they are, it's not. their fault, but like they become looped. into that system and will end up unhappy. and most likely addicted to a bunch of. [ __ ] And um. yeah, it's it's a it's a sad thing. chasing validation. >> I met this person at this party. I want. to be famous. I met this guy. I took a. photo with him. It's just like a [ __ ]. dead end. Um so, um yeah, I think that.

energy overall in society is starting to. change a little bit. I think we're. starting to realize that there's not. like all this like collection of moments. and even items and even finances while. we're here. There's not a really the. depth of value to it isn't uh it's a. kiddie pool, you know. So, so yes, I I. was at the um this summit this past. weekend in Montana and I I was taking a.

piss next to Jeff Bezos and my my uh my. dad always said to me like since I was a. kid, famous people put their pants on. the same way, >> one leg at a time. >> Yeah. And so I realized like, bro, he's. >> I love him, by the way. >> Really? >> Is he a neat guy? I can't even imagine. what his voice sounds like. He he's just [ __ ] he's he's awesome, bro. He like shaped. the world and he's going to continue to.

do that. But um. >> I just realized when we were peeing next. to each other, like bro, we're just. peeing next to each other. >> Just my [ __ ] just my homie. essentially. >> But your [ __ ] piss pot, bro. Yeah. >> Like we're just like Jeffrey Jeffrey. Bezos. I was going to start singing it. out loud, but I didn't have the. confidence. I was about to start singing. his song and then I texted my friends. like, "Yeah, I just pissed next to. Jeffrey." And they were like, "Did you. grab his dick?" Like, it's just all that.

friend [ __ ] huh? >> It's just all a joke. >> Did you [ __ ] same day deliver that. [ __ ] You feel [laughter] me? That's. what I'm saying, bro. >> How prime was it? [laughter]. >> Like, bro, bro, like at the end of the. day, >> was it Logan or was it KSI? [laughter]. So that's just a further on the prime. joke, but um I got it. Thanks, dude. Dude, I remember one time I pissed next. to [ __ ] Kid Rock, dude. >> And I was like, "Fuck, I thought I'd. made it, dude." That That's what I mean.

But it's also funny to like these people. like that are so um. in the media and I like find myself in. this in this category often like people. think they know me. They. have so many ideas about who I am or. what I am. But like bro, at the end of. the day we're all [ __ ] humans. And. like seeing these people like eat like. even just seeing Jeff Bezos eat was just. like funny. It's like, yeah, okay. He. has.

>> Or watching him whisper to somebody. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like he has to. whisper. He has to eat, >> bro. He's just one of us. Like he's just. a guy's guy. >> Yeah. >> Does he seem like a guy's guy kind of. >> for sure? Yeah. He seems super cool. >> Somebody said he seems kind of Asian. One of my buddies met him a couple. times. They said he seems kind of Asian. Did he seem like that to you [laughter]. at all? Not fully or not. Yeah. Yeah. So, I couldn't tell when he was peeing.

like how tight he had to grip it. >> Oh, [laughter] yeah. >> If he had a head lamp on. >> So, yeah. I [laughter] don't know, dude. That's. crazy, bro. >> I don't know. >> That's the only way I could tell if he. was. >> Is he tall? >> He's like He's like 5'8, 5'9. >> Okay. So, he's what? probably also his. his wife like I think has a weird like. public persona. >> Mhm. >> Um and their whole relationship, bro, it.

just goes back to [ __ ] media, but she. was awesome and smart and nice. [clears throat] and. >> um very intelligent and um. >> I don't know. It's just weird how the. media paints everyone. And. >> it's it's actually sad because I even. had a preconceived notion of these. people because it's just like. indoctrination. and you see enough things where you just. like start to conform to that idea. >> Mhm. >> But then you could just be so wrong.

Yeah. Oh, I I think that that happens a. lot. You know, it's easy to get addicted. to that, too. One of the things that I. think is most important right now is um. the the value of our own attention. What. do we put our attention on? You know, because it's easy to sit there and just. absorb all the [ __ ] and be like. here's a picture of Lauren Bezos or Jeff. Bezos and you know there's just an. article and there's no even. repercussions for anything more. It's. like she just got her tits done, he just.

got his head done or whatever and you're. just like [laughter] okay. But you you. know what I'm saying? But most people. just we believe it. It's like I've found. myself believing stuff and it's like. this is, you know, I'm sure you've read. things about yourself that are. astronomically outrageous. No, >> 100%. This is I think the word you said. that is key is like repercussions. Like. there needs to be some form of. punishment for invalid commentary on. anything. >> Yeah. Um, and this is why I started.

suing people cuz um, >> have you had a lot of NIL type like that. sort of issues or just people saying. stuff? >> People mo mostly like rigged fights and. and steroids and fake fights and like. this type of thing. It's like, bro, do I. look like I'm on steroids? Like, >> no. I'm a chubby kid. Like, >> do do you know how legal it is within. all of these commissions to rig fights? like you guys are actually [ __ ].

stupid, but I can't say that to them. And then even when I'm like sitting here. now defending myself, it it feels like. they're going to look at it and be like, "Of course he would say that.". >> Right. >> Um so I'm I'm just suing people because. that's when the truth comes out is like. let's let's go to court. >> Yeah. Let let's actually look at the. documents and see if my fights were. rigged and get to the bottom of it. And. I know I'll come out on top because.

they're not. And so. >> and this I'm going to go delete an old. tweet as well as you're saying this. But. uh [laughter] yeah, cuz I. >> Oh yeah, you you did say that thing. I. was like for a second, bro. Yeah, I was. actually [ __ ] I was upset. >> I was mad at you. But I was mad at you. for saying that. >> Yeah. I can't remember if I did. >> Why though? Because I think Yeah, I. think it's exactly what you're saying. It was like, um, well, let me think. about it. I don't know exactly what I. said, but it was something like, yeah, I. don't or yeah, some. >> I actually remember this. >> It was a jab like that.

>> Yeah, you did. >> It was a verbal jab like that. I'm. sorry, man. >> Don't sue me also, please. And I. [laughter] will take it down. But like, um, >> but what what it's by the way, it's. fine. It's fine. But why? Like what was. the cuz cuz I I look at it to be honest. as another male who's insecure about me. being successful. trying to take me down. H let me think. about that for just a second. Let me. really think about it. >> Yeah.

>> Um yeah. Why would I say it was probably. it was like um it felt like probably a. bandwagony type of thing, you know. Um. I'm not using that as an excuse. I'm. just saying that was probably part of. it. >> Um let me think. Uh, oh yeah, it's easy. for me now in hindsight. Yeah, it's easy. for me to like um just say something. from from here where I'm sitting here. I. don't have to say it to his face. I. don't have to be around him and say it. because I wouldn't I probably I wouldn't. do that unless I felt like it was a. joking environment that was like safe.

Um, yeah. So, those are probably the things. to be honest with you. >> and and. >> um and I think it would take us longer. for me to sit here and or you know it. would take me longer to really probably. sit and like kind of think out what all. the small parts were, but those honestly. are the things that I'm thinking of off. the bat. >> Yep. No, and and then uh like appreciate. your honesty and and candidness around. that. Like and and it's it is annoying. for me because I [ __ ] work my ass off.

in the gym. >> like all the [ __ ] a lot. I think I. mean you came I mean like. >> there was a there was a time where it. was like yeah this this guy isn't a real. fighter. These are things that people. would say and then there's no there's no. person now like you disproved but but. that's the thing is I could handle the. not a real fighter because I'm like [ __ ]. you. Haha. Right. >> I could handle the um like most of the.

things that people said, but then when I. got so good that people couldn't believe. what I was doing that it turned to fake. fights steroids, >> that really bothered me to be honest. Um. I don't know why. Like it just like. seemed like the polar opposite. >> thing that people could say that would. disprove it all. Mhm. >> Um, so it was so far from truth and I. think that's why I'm blessed by God and.

like such a uh pivotal person in today's. society is because I live by truth. >> And I think that when you do that, God. continues to bless you. And I think the. the fake fights thing like is so far. from the truth that it really bothered. me. >> Yeah. I could see that. I could see that it. would Well, yeah, man. I'm sorry if I. could to that way, you know.

>> No problem. >> But I'm glad that we're talking about. this cuz I do think that it's. interesting. I think that um. yeah, I think there's something like uh. yeah, why like yeah, why does that kind. of [ __ ] like why do we or why have I. acted that way? Why do we act? Like why. is you know sometimes it's in just it's. getting involved in the conversation but. yeah to think that there's not like um. real repercussions or real like just. things that happen feelings that happen.

Do you I think sometimes people you guys. are such good promoters over the years. right and you guys have done a good job. of continuing to evolve in uh. entertainment and society. Like there's. not a lot of people that have a 17-year. lifespan in entertainment. And it may be. longer. I don't I'm not even sure how. old you are. >> It's Yeah, it's been like 13 years. >> Yeah. I mean, to keep that and have a. level that is like.

>> one of the highest levels in different. mediums and then also I think people. don't know like um I don't know if. people don't know but it's tough to get. people to reframe you into something. that's different. I'm not [clears throat] using those as. excuses. I'm just saying that there. could be some of that in there. >> Bro, I'm not going to lie. Like if. I might have a little. >> If I um. like saw me as another like young and. upand cominging male, I would like have.

jealousy of myself and be like, "Fuck. this guy. He's got a jet and a gold. medal fiance and the perfect life and. 6,000 acre ranch." I I would have. jealousy. that it's human nature, >> right? >> So, I like get it like it just is what. it is. Um I just think there could be. some of that in there. Yeah. And yeah, I. mean it's like um it's weird and and. also like does it help you keep going.

though? >> Is there some of it that keeps a chip on. your shoulder? Um. cuz I got an. >> I'm not I don't know what I'm motivated. by anymore to be honest. Yeah, >> that's interesting. I feel that. sometimes. >> I think it's I think it goes back to. like. helping others and like community. I'm a. I'm a big fan of Marcus Aurelius and. I mean the biggest thing he just says is.

like your duty to society is the most. important thing and so I think that's. where I've landed recently. >> because I have like everything and um. >> like you have enough for yourself. You. mean you have what you need? >> Yeah. And and and my family and all of. that. So, like I I just go back to like. the leader of the Roman Empire should. probably listen to what he had to say. And one of his biggest sayings is I.

should, you know, your biggest thing is. to be uh a part of society and make it a. better place. >> So, I think that's that's maybe where. I'm at um these days. One thing that really um kind of like. touched me was the way your reaction and. involvement with your uh fiance at the. Olympics. I thought that was really. cool, man. I think there was something. like. >> just as a guy like you a lot of guys I.

think don't probably do a lot of. supporting of their girlfriends or. spouses in certain ways and uh I thought. something like that was really beautiful. to see. I think we have Do you have. anything of it? His wife won a gold. and they're cruising out there. Are they. cruising? [screaming]. Bro, they're cooking. Um, this was awesome, bro. >> How are you feeling? What was. >> Bro, so yeah. So, like, honestly, um,

yeah, it it it's uh the greatest moment. I've ever witnessed as a human. Just. like everything. that happened and the way it played out. was just nuts. And I know how hard she. works and like how dedicated she is and. how much every single day she's. putting so much detail into her work and. um.

the girl right before her like two races. before. set sorry set the Olympic record. So, we were all like looking at each. other like, "Oh my god, that was a fast time. She. she might not win right now." Like, what. the [ __ ] Um, and then she just [ __ ]. comes out. and sets the new Olympic record and.

[ __ ] wins. Um, >> let's go. And I could I could tell that. she was. going to win like before everyone else. because I like see her times and so. that's why I was like already crying and. I was like I I don't cry. >> So there was some more buildup to it. It. wasn't like just that exact moment. You. could feel it coming on. >> Yeah. No, I could you could see the the. speed and the times on the on the you. know digital board. So,

I knew maybe before anyone else. And um. bro, like I'm I'm the one that has to. like deal with her stress and problems. and thoughts around the whole sport on a. daily basis. So, I knew how much it. meant to her. And yeah, it was just like. witnessing [ __ ] greatness at the. highest level in the coolest thing. representing her country. The Dutch. people were all there screaming like all. of it was just beautiful. Um.

>> the Dutch are [ __ ] aerodynamic, dude. I've always said that. >> Yeah, [laughter]. >> they're very aerodynamic. >> You you've been you've been long on on. the Dutch. >> They're taller than A lot of them are. very aerodynamic. Pull up a Dutch, man. >> Bro, just No, my. >> pull up a Dutch. >> Honestly, you're just very aerodynamic. I'm not going to lie. >> Look at this pass. Hold on. That's just. a random [laughter] Dutch. Zoom in on. that guy on the right. [ __ ] Mr. Dutch. right there.

>> And [ __ ] his little Dutch dime right. there, boy. Dunk a Shane, homie. Dunk a. Shane. That guy will [ __ ] take on a. wind right there. That dude will take on. a [ __ ] a headwind in a heartbeat. You'll be back to Puerto Rico 10 minutes. sooner if that guy was [ __ ] attached. to the front of your bird. That's for. sure. Um, I think there was something. [laughter]. >> it was it that was. >> you're right, bro. >> Bro, they I've known that since I was. young. My mother told me that. >> the the dust dynamic. She said it.

>> What else did your mom teach you? >> What did she tell me? I don't know. She. was always working. She would [ __ ]. drive by and yell at us. She like, "Go. brush your teeth." She'd [ __ ] be. zooming by in her car [ __ ] yelling, "Dude, brush your [ __ ] teeth." We. just in the yard. hard like we're not. even inside right now. [laughter] But. she tried to parent the best she could, you know? She was just always like. delivering stuff. >> No, I thought it was awesome, too, that. you're like working on your um. [laughter].

foundation. What is it with um Cat. Williams or. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that that's what I was saying. like I'm just. >> happy for your mother that she's going. to benefit. [laughter]. Yeah. I'm glad to see mom, you're going. to get an afternoon off, dude. Yeah. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> So, what's the foundation again? >> Put that clip in. The foundation doesn't. have a name yet. Nobody even knows those. are coming out, but it people are going. to be um. >> it's benefiting the parents of autistic. kids, right?

>> Yep. We're going to the [laughter]. >> Your your family is going to be up. [laughter]. >> Yeah, they are, dude. And there's other. autistic people in my [ __ ] family. And we're calling those [ __ ]. out, dude. There should be. >> All of them are going to make hella. bread based off of your organization. It it is lowkey insider trading. [laughter]. I [ __ ] give you that one, dude. [laughter] [ __ ] bro. Dude, you're.

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meaningful thing that you could do. Um, words. I think are the most important thing in. love and yeah, I would just write her a. letter. >> Yeah. >> Oh. Uh, yeah. I saw that you sat with. Vance at the Olympics. Vance is cool, huh? >> Yeah. Ohio guy. >> He's neat to be around. >> Yeah. No, he's super normal, bro. Um, god damn. He's pulling up the photos. like. >> it's his [ __ ] job.

>> He He He's just um. >> Just joking, Trevan. Sorry. Um, yeah, I. like being around Vance. He's been on. here a couple times. Do you think he's. trying to position himself to be that. next dog or what do you think? I think I think Yeah, of course. Like. that's the nature of the game. Um. and [gasps]. yeah, like. he's uh.

yeah, if you're going to if you're the. vice president, you're you're already. playing the game. That's a dangerous. game. So like. >> it is. >> and and and I like dabble in it which. >> it's it's scary cuz I don't want to get. [ __ ]. popped but like and and and beyond that. like there's so many things behind the. scenes brands. people won't even associate with you. because of your political stance. Um.

>> so it's a really interesting game to. like play in. But he's already balls. deep. So yeah, I think he's going to. jockey for president for sure. >> It's scary when you're that deep in. >> it. Yeah, it it makes it easier when you. have like 15 security. around you and people have to get wanded. just to talk to you. But like. >> Yeah, it's still weird. It's still. weird, bro. Like it's the weirdest thing. in the world. Um do you Yeah. Have you.

ever. >> You're playing the You're playing the. biggest game of life. >> That's [ __ ] true, dude. And And it's. gotten dangerous. >> Yeah. And And do you want to play that? And like, can you um It's It's just. really interesting. Like, is there room for you in that space? I. saw something recently with you and. Trump where you guys were like uh kind. of flirting or whatever, just ping. around or whatever. >> Yeah, we were we were flirting. He's cute. [laughter].

No, I saw a thing where you guys and he. was giving you a lot of credit. >> Yeah, I I was nervous like I was. sweating hella and [ __ ] Yeah. Is it's. got to be a moment like that where. you're like, "Okay, this is kind of. wild.". No. Yeah. Like at at that point, like. life didn't make sense. I had to like. call my dad to um for him to ground me a. little bit, but even he was like, "Bro, what the [ __ ] This is the coolest thing. in the world.". Um, yeah, I've been like flirting with the.

idea of politics just cuz I think it. goes back to Marcus Aurelius of like. helping society and like what that's the. number one thing you can do. Um, and [sighs]. it's become a joke. Like my my business. partner Jeff Woo, we have a venture. capital fund together. Um, >> bring up Jeff. Bring up Woo. >> [laughter]. >> And let's get a gander at him. >> G. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There he is. There.

he is. >> G Woo. G W it. >> So six years ago he was like, "You're. going to become the president." No way. he said that. >> Yeah. And then it became less and less. of a joke. [gasps and sighs]. And then I started to realize like, oh. my god. Um. if if if I'm the best person to do it. and can actually win um then like I. might need to do it. I'm already playing. the biggest games of life. Yeah.

>> So we'll dabble in that if it makes. sense. And if there's like a Camala. running on the Democratic party like. [ __ ]. dumbass. uh running and opposing um I will enter. the game and. >> and risk getting assassinated, but I. don't want to. >> So, >> um and what would you wear like a You. couldn't wear like a helmet or.

something. You'd have to have shields. and stuff around you probably or just. [laughter]. you'd have to How crazy would it be if. to protect yourself to run you literally. had to like almost like I wonder if. people running in the future have to. like live stream from a bunker or do you. know what I'm saying? Do their things. from like a protected space because it's. going to get dangerous out there. >> Yeah. No, you're a thousand% right. Like. there they actually probably will like I. Yeah. Like I'm even scared just talking.

about this [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Um but I think we're getting to a place. where I could see something like that. happening. I could see you running. I. could see something like that. I could. see like it does take something inside. of people. I feel like that they feel a. sense of a purpose and a calling to. something. And if they can make sure. that that's not just attached to their. own ego and they can make sure that. there is a sense of like I can do. something better and I'm willing to put. myself out there to do that. A and yes. and sign up for the hardest job in the.

world. Yeah. Where. >> you're [ __ ]. 14 hours a day just cranking it. I've. seen Trump his energy is why he's there. Like he's a [ __ ] legend in that in. that sense. And it demands so much of. you and will take away. >> not only your life but everyone that. you're affiliated with. So, you're also. like signing your kids up for it. So, like I really don't want to do it, but.

like. it it's become like a funny joke that I. would and then randomly Trump endorses. me fully. >> Um, which someone texted me, they said. like you'd have to pay him a billion. dollars to get that endorsement. Um, >> and you got it for free right there. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Pull it up. Let me say a little. endorsement. >> This is pretty good.

>> God is with us. I know he wants us on. the right side of history. and everyone here has to do their part. and God's got us. Trump's got us. God. bless. Love you, Kentucky. >> You did a good job there, man. That's a. [ __ ] tough environment to be in that. kind of space. I mean, would it be. something like you would run with Vance? I mean, do you think it's something like. that or would you start as mayor of like. like northern Puerto Rico or something. or do you is there any talks or what is.

the concept I guess? Sorry. Yeah. So, you actually are like super um. perceptive because Yeah. I that was my. plan was to start in northern Puerto. Rico. >> in PR, dude. >> Which just got defunded. [laughter]. put it back on the map. >> I uh I don't know. I honestly don't. know. >> But it's just something like it's like a. poor It's like kind of like a light in. the distance right now. >> Yeah. And it just seems like we need.

heroes out there. >> Yeah. And and like Charlie would have. been the guy. >> Yeah. >> So, um it's [ __ ] sad, bro. He's [ __ ]. awesome. Um. >> did you spend time with him? >> No. No. just followed all of his stuff. But. >> like, [sighs and gasps]. >> you know what? >> He he was like aiming for it though. That I think that's the problem is like.

I'm just a [ __ ] kid from Ohio that's. a high school dropout. Like. if it makes sense at some point, then it. makes sense. And that that that was like. his job and his purpose and all of that. >> Yeah. [clears throat] Um, and I loved. that. But like it, you know, it if someone was like this. was like me becoming a world champion in. boxing, like it makes more sense than.

Jake Paul becoming president. Charlie. Kirk was clearly going to be the the. next president. So I think that's part. of the whole. thing that happened, >> right? The new energy that's out there. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a good point that somebody. did. They they there was probably people. that didn't want to see that possibly. occur. They didn't want to see that get. to the next level or Yeah. There's a lot. of uh investigatorial stuff about that.

You know, some people say that it was. like a a microphone on his lapel that. blew up and that that's what killed him. Um and then that microphone was made. here in Tennessee. And then 2 weeks. after that, the factory was made at blew. to smitherines and like 16 people died, which is just a kind of a crazy like. that's one of the wildest kind of like. that's one of the most interesting. theories that I've heard. Yeah, the. there's a lot of conspiracy theories out. there these days and I was just with.

some like bros in Minnesota. >> and they were kind of asking me about. these conspiracy theories cuz they were. like, "Oh, he knows more than than I. do." Um, I think that a lot of it is. [ __ ] [ __ ] and people just want. something to like hang on to. Um, I I don't disagree on like certain. points, but you have to be really smart. and selective to.

decipher the conspiracy theories that. are out there and like realize which. ones have like even a little bit of. truth. But why as a society like do we. hang on to these so much? Like. >> conspiracy theories? >> Yeah, because it's like. >> bro, we love drama as humans basically. Like we just love [ __ ] bad news and. we love to like. >> we have Yes, >> this is the [ __ ] problem. >> It is a problem. >> And so conspiracy theories give people a.

reason to [ __ ] gossip and like just. it's just like something to do, bro. People are bored. Like, I've I've never. met a. rich person who's doing dope [ __ ] in. life that. gives a [ __ ] about any of this [ __ ]. because they're just have better [ __ ] to. do. That That's the problem is like. people need to go get a job and have a. purpose. And um. we're at a point though, I think, where.

people can't trust mainstream media. They don't trust it. it's it's heavily. owned by a couple of corporations. And. so I think that created a lot of this. space for. um like just outlier investigators, outlier people asking questions when. every you know there's that famous thing. during he this is the problem is all of. it has become an entertainment product. >> It's all the WWE. I've been saying this. everything is the WWE. So, so.

this person who's claiming to tell the. truth. starts to dabble in like a little bit of. like. fun fun cuz it's going to get more. views. I mean, it goes back to um a lot. of these people and. >> but you understand that. I mean, you. guys have done it. >> This is why I understand it. >> Got it. I see what. >> is cuz I do this. But but the difference.

is I'm not doing it on things that like. affect the world. And I'm not talking. about missiles and Iran and [ __ ]. Israel and Charlie Kirk. I'm I'm like. talking [ __ ] to Conor McGregor, >> right? >> So I'm down to like. entertain. when it's in the entertainment world. Got it. When it's in politics, you like people shouldn't [ __ ] around. And so like who is telling the truth.

these days? Yeah. And I wish you'd think. with all this technology or something. there would be able to be like a truth. filter you could put over something on. your phone, but then I guess it would be. like the what is the arbiter of the. truth? Like it's like a lot of these. like um AI models now. It's like they. have information that's put into them. So they're only going to spit out. whatever's whatever you know like the. the information is controlled. So, you're only going to get answers that. are based on it. Um, one thing you said. that I did want to say that I thought.

was interesting was during the Roman. Empire, a lot of the um the politicians. also had to fight on the battlefield. So, that was one thing that I thought. was really amazing about those times was. like if they were going to make choices. that affected the lives of of like the. citizens of the military, of like the. farmer who was putting down his. pitchfork and picking up a sword, like. they had to be out there as leaders as. well. Um, and I feel like that's where. some of your energy comes from. And so I. think I uh I admire that concept.

>> I think it's I think it's dope. And I. agree. Like if I ever was running for. office, I would also be like super down. to have a AR-15 and [ __ ] shoot these. [ __ ]. >> out of a [ __ ] gun and a shield. >> Yeah, bro. Like, >> who has that, dude? >> I'm down to die, bro. I think I put that. on the line with Anthony Joshua. Like, I'm down for this [ __ ] bro. But like, you're I think you're right. It's a. That's a really good point actually. Like Trump should be on the front lines. or Baron.

I don't know if he's old enough yet. >> He might be too tall to be out there, too. [laughter]. >> Get his head clipped out, dude. Bro's. Bro's a big target. [laughter]. >> He would just be. >> He's got to stand out, bro. And he's. good-looking. And so like he's they're. going to be like, "Oh, yeah, that guy. [ __ ] get him." I I if if if this is a. funny question. If um if aliens came to. Earth, which human would you want them.

to meet? Only could meet one human. What. human? Oh, I think. I don't know. If you send like a brother. over there, probably NBA Young Boy maybe, dude. [laughter] I think. because. I think that would just be. Yeah. Yeah. Well, have you seen the uh that who.

[laughter]. you know what I was thinking to say? Let's go, [laughter] dude. and welcome to America's Last Brain. Cell. [laughter] Well, I'm Theo and this. is Jake Paul. >> Oh, dude. What about your freaking mom. was trying to freaking holler at me? [laughter]. >> Is that true? What was happening? >> Yeah, my mom. >> She was married. >> She is. Uh, they're in a great. relationship. I love um I love my mom.

[laughter]. and and stepdad. Um. Oh, damn. Am I only going to get in. trouble? Is this bad? >> And Derek, is that your stepdad? Rick. Derek. >> David. >> David. >> I was wondering the other day. I was. like, "What is his stepdad's name?" Um, >> um, okay. So this I mean philosophically. what [laughter]. >> philosophically. if. a woman is in a relationship for 30.

years with a normal guy. >> for sure. >> and then the [ __ ] mohawk comes out. with the ovan. she might start flirting bro when. [snorts] you see the lord's parakeet. >> [laughter]. >> Exactly my point, dog. >> You got to [ __ ]. >> And my mom is a [ __ ] is the goat. She's. a life maxer. So, she's going to life. max. And um. >> she's pulling up pictures. >> Oh, yeah. That's who she is right there.

That's Pam I am. Boy, >> bro. [laughter]. Pam I am. >> Would you have done it though? >> And by done it, what do you mean? Take. her out for ice cream or a film? Yes. Are you talking about like What are you. talking about? I would have taken her for ice cream out. of her room early. [laughter]. >> And that's why I approve of your guys. >> Dude, I. >> Good answer. Political answer. >> I'd be a good stepdad though, dude.

>> Bro, if you were my stepdad, I'd be so. happy, bro. >> Bro, I would. >> That's all I need in life, honestly. >> I would let y'all smoke. Not in the. house or something, but I would let. y'all smoke. Um, >> which kind of smoke? Huh? You can smoke. dope. Smoke it outside. I don't give a. [ __ ] As long as you don't smoke outside. of our bedroom window or something. We're trying to rest. >> I think my mom's hot. >> Huh? I think she's a beautiful lady. I. like her. She's hot. >> I don't know. I'd have to see her again in person. She did the splits for you, bro. Oh my.

god. She did. I think [laughter] I have. some photos of that. Dude, your dad was. right there. I was like, what are we. doing here? You know, >> that's my No, they're they're divorced. That was the. That was That Yeah, that's not her. husband. That was there. >> Oh, >> that was my dad and mom, but their. divorce came. Got it. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I think he. even was like, you know, you know, I'll. tell you what not to do. You know, I. think he said some stuff like that to. me. So, I think there was like a mix of. like energy there. But, yeah, I know.

And she's an author. I admire that. I. know she just came out with a book, right? Yeah. >> [ __ ] the police. >> Literally. [ __ ] the Pauls. >> [ __ ] the Pauls. >> Yeah. Great book by the way for um. >> [ __ ] the Poles. >> I would say like mostly um. I if people have an interest in like. fame and navigating it, I think it's a. good book. What effect do you think she. had over the years on like did she kind. of was she ever like an orchestrator of. things or was she just kind of like. somebody who was just supporting in the.

distance? like because it's interesting. how a mom reacts to like I think their. son's journey through uh popularity and. like because for a while they're just. their son and then they're kind of like. a a pseudo sibling or something to. everybody um in in a way you know. Yeah. I um definitely like supporting from. afar. Um, but. like more recently she's gotten more.

involved in like. knowing who she is. >> and being like [ __ ] you to these certain. people in my life that aren't good. So, she's become a more of a protector. I. think at first I was me and my brother. were like teaching her. um and she's very smart lady but I think. it was such a new world for her of. social media and so I think uh she she. always was giving her 100% best effort.

to help in any way possible. >> and that came across in different ways. but I think more recently she's she's. become um more of a protector and more. opinion opinion at she know she has more. confidence in her opinions and I I think. that's been good for both Logan and I. >> Do you think that you guys as careers. have allowed you to see a new side of. your mom that you are really that makes. you.

like have even some more unique thoughts. about her. Does that make any sense? >> No, 100%. Um, yeah, >> admire her more or Yeah, that's what it. was is admiring her more because. >> like I was built for this and destined. for it. >> and. you don't know if your parents are. always on that same wavelength and I. think a lot of celebrities. and their parents probably don't even. get along or talk or are involved. Like.

I see a lot of that. Um, and it turns. out that she was [ __ ] built for this. and she's ready for the fire, which is. gangster. And I was like, "That's my. [ __ ] mom.". >> And that's my freaking wife. >> Yeah. Sorry. [laughter]. No, >> that's my first date. >> Dude, I'm just saying. Take us to an. award show. Um, but yeah, I would take. her somewhere nice. I Yeah. >> Like what restaurant you think? Or. >> Oh, I know where I would take her. A. place that has a golf course, but we.

don't play golf. We're just going to go. eat there. Nice. Watch the rich people. come in. [laughter]. >> Oh, there's Tom. You know, [ __ ] like. that. >> Leonard. [laughter]. >> Oh, yes. He has an institutional. financial estate. >> Yeah, there he is. Leonard. >> Yeah, >> he has a [ __ ] stamp on his back, too. Don't tell anybody. [laughter]. >> He got kind of crazy one month in the. [ __ ] Hamptons. Oh, [ __ ] Leonard's crazy. Yeah. And I.

would just let her drink wine and I. wouldn't drink any, but I would smell. her breath every now and then to get a. hit of it, you know, just to get the. [ __ ] grapes in my nose. Boy, >> how h how much would you like huff it? >> Oh, I take a good [laughter]. whiff, dude. I would reverse boof it. I. would put a straw in her mouth. [laughter] and just sucked a [ __ ]. wine smoke out of her [ __ ] throat. This is getting bad. Dear God, I just. ordered a [ __ ] What am I? Some kind. of [ __ ] smut? I need another whiskey.

blue raspberry. Can one of you [ __ ]. get it for me? >> Yeah, go get him one. >> It's in the [ __ ] refrigerator. So, >> yeah. So, there's ice in the fridge. >> So, so Oh. Um, but no. Uh, no, I think. it's I've gotten to know her a little. bit over the years just by seeing her. here and there. And I think her I think. her energy and I think it's something. nice when you get a chance in your life. to see your mom in a different way. >> And I think that's what happened. >> Yeah. And I think that that's it's. almost like a beautiful thing in a way.

You almost get to see just to see. somebody grow into something different. at some point in their life is really. special whether that's and it can be in. any way. But I think so so yeah, I could. really imagine that that's nice. >> No, exactly. and and like a lot I I've. noticed uh a lot of people don't change. or don't know how to and um evolve. >> and they just like get stuck in their. same patterns and especially when. they're older because if you've been. doing something for 40 or 50 years,

you're going to like get stuck in that. rut. Um, and so to like see her change. and actually be able to like evolve is. is beautiful. And I I noticed it with my. dad as well. He's a little bit more. behind. Um, >> but he's doing it and he's doing the. work. >> Um, and that's beautiful. That's. awesome, man. I think it's cool like. whenever like um as a child you get to. be a part of something like that and see.

that and like I think there's a lot of. like kind of like growth and moments. there for ourselves and our parents you. know uh. yeah being a son is an interesting. responsibility when you realize that. it's um [clears throat] not just like. one of taking in a way and I don't mean. that it's just because that's how it is. when you're you think it's just like. this one way sort of thing. Um, it it is. like you're you're. like until you're like conscious enough. to. not take from your parents, it really is.

a oneway relationship and it's the first. one one way relationship in your life. Do you do you have do you have kids or. like what's going on? No. No wife, no? >> I don't have many kids. I'm not dating. right now. I'm just working on myself. and uh so it's been like the last year. has been kind of tough with just like um. just staying on track and then I. realized I was just kind of putting. myself like in situ like just things. that uh I wasn't like they weren't like.

all like rungs on the ladder towards my. goal. You know, some of them were fun. rungs and things like that, but it just. wasn't where I needed to be. And like. some of the sobriety has been a little. bit tough over the past year or so. Um, but right now I'm doing better than I've. done in a long time. And uh, and so. yeah, I feel good about that. Um, I need. >> hard. >> It is. I need to go die. >> Especially for you in like your position. and all of those things. Like people you. It's hard to find the right person that. doesn't have the wrong intentions.

>> Yeah. I feel like I'm a decent judge of. that kind of stuff. I think um I'm. enjoying kind of not having to date and. do things like that. The the problem is. is you can't judge it until. it's like time cuz people are good. actors these days. >> So, how did you know your girl was the right. one for you? I think um was there like. an experience y'all had together or like. a thing being at just being at the same.

level like in terms of. wealth or fame or stature. because then you know there's like not. games. So yeah, you might have to like find a. famous girl. I don't know. >> I don't know. But they also could like. understand like. >> Yeah. I. >> what right like like you you go to like.

a waitress girl today and you're like. Theo is like oh I uh had a podcast with. Jake Paul and we talked about blackface. and [laughter] it was [ __ ] insane and. it's going to break the internet and. let's see what happens. And then she's. just like yeah I'm a waitress like do. you want a shot? like she's not going to. understand. the importance of that or you. >> or like what you did. >> I think yeah, there could be some that, but if she goes, "Well, I know what.

you're going to have. The black and. salmon." If she said that as a joke, then I would know, okay, maybe this. [ __ ] is [ __ ] she has at least has a. sense of humor. So, a sense of humor is. big for me. I do think like, yeah, there's some things it's like um you. also don't want to add discomfort to. someone's life. I don't want to add like. if some of my like [ __ ] or the. little things that I'm involved in, I. don't want that to mess up somebody's. life if you know like um but but that's. that's that that's also why. the like famous girl would be good.

because. I got to meet. >> she's already like balls deep. I got to. meet one there. I will one of these days. when I get back out there. Um I saw that. you and your Did you and your father do. Iaska? Who did it? >> Yes. Yeah. I've been there a few times, man. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And thank God. >> I mean, dude, I'll even [ __ ] talk to. this [ __ ] every now and then. Once. [laughter] you dude, you look at a house. plant way different. You're like, "How. are you boys this morning?" You know, huh? 10 and two, you know?

>> Bro, I'm not going to lie, bro. I've talked this. >> Have you talked about this at Nauseium? I didn't know if you have. >> Well, about what? >> Hey, have you talked about this so much? I didn't even know if you. >> No, no, no, no. I t No. I'm saying. after doing Iawasa I like grab steel. sometimes or like aluminum and metal and. be like talk to it. >> because it's a living object. >> People don't understand that metal is a. living object.

So that sounds [ __ ] insane, but like. it's no different than a plant. >> Yeah. >> They're they're atoms moving around. And. so I I actually talk to the items in my. house to like give them better energy. >> Like let me let me boost your spirits. today, guys. I know you're a bookshelf, but you don't know what you're holding. on to. You know what I'm [laughter]. saying? >> You've got everything. You've got uh the. crucible right here on your back. You. got all these freaking. >> You've got Moby Dick, the Bible, >> the seven Bibles. Bridges of Madison,

bro. My bookshelf is tired, bro. >> Yeah, you got Dunkirk on you. >> Got to talk to it. You have no clue what. you're doing. I like that. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. But to boost up your [ __ ] boys. who were [ __ ] carrying all your words. around. >> I like that. >> I boost up everything in my house, bro. >> Where'd you guys Where did you guys do. it at? >> Did somebody come to you? I've done it. like a bunch of times. Okay. Um, >> mostly Costa Rica. >> And did your wife go too?

>> Yes. >> Wow. Oh yeah, there's the video. >> And Oh yeah. Oh yeah, dude. You got the. fancy one. I did it right outside of a. Popeye's over there off the 101. [laughter]. >> You just did it here. >> No, off the 101 in LA. I did it. near a neighborhood. >> You can't do that, bro. You got to like. >> Dude, the [ __ ] was popping. >> But it was good. It was good. >> It was popping. >> Okay. Okay. What was like the biggest. thing you took away from it then? Like. Oh, dude. I like.

I remember I mean you went like a deep. thing. >> Yeah. >> I there was a point like um. I remember this feeling that I had when. I was a kid that maybe if I was a like. um. if I was a girl that uh I would my. parents would love me more that that so. I was like there was like this weird. like like just questioning of who I was. or something. Um, I remember that that.

was like a crazy thought that I had when. I was a kid. Um, I mean that that's like. a comparable thing which goes back to. like. then that they probably probably made. you feel compared or some weird [ __ ]. like I don't know how to psychoanalyze. all of that. >> No, but [clears throat] it was. something. Yeah, I just thought like. maybe uh like they don't see me as I am. So maybe it was just a thought that as a. kid well maybe if I was a girl they. would see me. It was just But that's. kind of a crazy thought that a kid would.

have. >> and it sucks. >> Yeah. So things like that and you kind. of process those like you know you. process for like a kid feeling those. things. >> Yep. Um I think the biggest one for me. was. uh selflove. It was like. just like putting the mirror up of like. look at yourself. >> Mhm. >> And how come you don't love yourself. sometimes? And in a lot of moments I do.

>> Mhm. >> Um but I think that trickles out into a. lot of other areas of life where um. it can not be good. Um. >> like where it turns into like like. between where it turns into ego or where. it turns into that kind of stuff. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. It's scary. >> Yep. And just like. Yeah. Just like even insecurity is a. part of.

selflove. >> And so I've actually like really worked. on it and gotten so much better at it. and I I feel secure now. Um, but I came. from a place of of insecurity, but it. takes practice to to get there. Um, and to find that confidence and that. love and to know who you are and not. give a [ __ ] what anyone thinks cuz I I. also was like judged and in public.

scrutiny and all of these things since I. was like 19. So, I think that was the. biggest thing was was selflove. Yeah, dude. I It's funny. We were We. were talking about this the other day in. a meeting and thanks for sharing that. with me. Um, we're talking about Did. your dad say any wild [ __ ] while he was. in there? Was he in there [ __ ]. capping? [laughter]. Bro, >> he's like, "HER NAME WAS JANET. Was he. just yelling [ __ ] in [laughter] there or. whatever?" Bro, I literally had to cuz. that's cra, bro. To sit there with your.

with a one of the people that created. you and to be on that journey. That. seems wild to me. Was it like that or. was it not like that? It just seemed. like two buddies. It wasn't I had to um. I realized the the like sweetest thing. about my father is that he's a protector. >> and he's a [ __ ] warrior. And he was. so high off [laughter]. that he was like. trying to like figure out where his um. fiance was.

>> and like protect her. and he thought. that like people were like trying to. attack her. and there was no one there and he was. just like I need to get I need to. protect I I need to do this I need to do. this. So um I. >> he's like installing [ __ ] security. system [laughter]. he was he turned into [ __ ] secret. service. Um but [laughter] there he is. right there. >> There he is drinking soup through his. head. That guy's walking out of his.

dome, bro. >> So, it's really interesting though. Like, >> get a spoon, honky. Sorry, that's my mom. driving by just telling me to brush my. teeth. >> Um, so, so was his mind blown if he'd. never done anything like that. >> All right. So, um, he had a stroke. before this and, um, before I, um, [gasps]. I've always been into psychedelics. because I'm in the sport where you get.

[ __ ] hit in the head. And there's. science around mushrooms creating. neurogenesis as as well as uh, Toad five. 5 MO DMT. And I'm friends with Brian. Johnson. I was just looking. >> You just did it. Yeah, I I like. relate to him in that sense. I've done. it like 10 times. Um, and so, uh, I basically like told him at some point.

to do it. as. a science thing. Um, and. the these things are like actual magic. in the world. And um people don't. understand their significance and how. profound they are and how much healing. can be done. And. when you talk to these people from the. Saran tribe who are like masters in the.

toad and that's where they like. originated it. [clears throat] Um. >> it cures Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, all of these things. The list goes on. and on and on. Um, and [clears throat]. it's actually like shielded from. there. There there's a reason why it's. illegal in the United States. >> because of big pharma.

>> Yeah. >> And etc. >> Big pharma sucks, dude. We can go down. that rabbit hole, but. >> well, there's a law go they're trying to. pass a law right now in uh that they're. allowing IBA gain in um in Tennessee and. uh and they need to pass it. They It's. something all these all these plant. medicines need to be they need to be. approved. 100%. Now, people don't need to be. buying them out of a [ __ ] like a one. of those like skill crane machines or. something like that at a Pizza Hut or. whatever, you know? >> But but but but it's [ __ ] wild that.

You could just go to any local place. here five minutes away and get [ __ ]. double Moscow mule. >> Yeah, but you can't do something that's. actually good for you. What does that. say about our leaders, >> about pharma, about insurance, all of. these things? So, and there's there's. no one's ever [ __ ] done toad or.

mushrooms and like done something bad. >> Yeah. >> But you've seen hundreds of times where. the alcoholic is. shooting up a place and killing people. and beating his wife. So, like, what the. [ __ ] are we doing as a society? It's. it's ass backwards. It's sad. Um, >> and I agree. I mean, I just Yeah, I. think it's awesome that you are such a. proponent of that, man, because that's a. big thing that's going on right now. I. think when is that bill? Can you look it. up for me?

The Helping Open Pathways to Effective. Treatment Act, HB 2075, is under. consideration in the 2025 2026. legislative session. The bill would not. legalize Abigain for general use. Instead, it would create a state. framework for FDA supervised clinical. trials targeting opioid use disorder, co-occurring substance disorders, PTSD, and related brain injury conditions. funded via a public private matching. grant structure. I'm a proponent of. that. Are you. >> thousand%. Amen. There you heard that.

Um, >> let's [ __ ] vote. >> Let's [ __ ] vote. Vote for toad, [laughter]. >> dude. That's it, bro. >> We love frogs. >> Um, and toads. Did your relationship. with your dad change after or no? Or was. it just kind of another. >> Okay. So that I mean so um there's like. a really interesting thing that happened. to him. >> Mhm. >> Um when you know the like IA experts, they've like seen everything. >> Mhm. And my dad had a stroke and you.

could viscerally see a difference in he. how he talked and acted. He like wasn't. there. It was like lights on no one's. home. >> like 60% not full on but it was sad. And. I was like yo like. talk to a bunch of people blah blah. blah. Let's do Iaska. So, um, he. basically.

did it and what the shamans were saying. was the and what they could feel. They're experts at this [ __ ] by the. way. And it's not [ __ ] They don't. give a [ __ ] bro. Like, they live in the. middle of the [ __ ] jungle in [ __ ]. Peru. There were just like I could tell. his spirit was cut and. his during this experience his spirit. came back to him. and hell yeah.

like since that day he's just been. normal again. >> No way. >> Yeah. So, no, noticeably, everyone notices it and everyone was. worried before it like. they were like, "Yo, like he's got I. don't want to use the R word, right? >> Cuz I would never say read or fat, but. like. >> I don't say it.". >> No, me either. >> I'll I'll spray paint it on your wall. >> I'll never say it.

>> Yeah, but I'm not saying it. But he was. like lowkey [ __ ] and. >> Well, that's not even Yeah, that's fine. >> It brought him back. >> So, >> damn. >> And imagine that, dude. Imagine you just. somebody rolls into like a learning. disabled class, which I was in. And I. was in Yeah, I was in there for not a. long time, but I did a little bit of. time in there. And imagine somebody. rolls in there one day and the next day. that classroom opens up and kids could.

be healed. But I think there's a lot of. healing in this stuff. Related. psychedelic evidence right there on this. is on perplexity. Uh DMT Iawaska's key. active component is under phase one. trials for stroke safety and recovery. potential with pre-clinical data. indicating brain healing via. neuroplasticity. Wow. >> So so this is science, right? Mhm. >> And there's a big problem with science. and yes, it's that. everything is like documented and like.

experiment and like measure, measure, measure and there's a good side of that, but. bro, these [ __ ] people have been. doing psychedelics for thousands of. years and have reported studies. human to human. They're not [ __ ]. scientists, but they have. >> the humanto human conversation of like, yo, this actually worked, >> right? >> Um, and so that's not going to be on. [ __ ] perplexity.

>> Well, it's not some gooner in a lab. wearing [ __ ] kids who's [ __ ] doing. all this [ __ ] you know? We're talking. about real Yeah. people that are in the. woods who have been doing they know. what's going on. Exactly. It's it's. crazy how we've gotten so far away from. like all this [ __ ] like how we got. so far away from all these like real. healing methods that have been alive for. thousands of years and then we got into. this just like bare monsanto [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] where we're all just addicted. to stuff and it's ruining people's lives. and then now we're getting back out of. that. I feel like we're getting back out. of that faster than ever though.

>> Do you feel that? Yeah, I think I think. >> I do. I do. I do. And. >> cuz we trusted our government. We. trusted that these that the EPA and FDA. all these things were taking care of us. We tr but now it's like [ __ ] they're. making us sick. There's a healthcare. that doesn't want to take care of it's. like it's a it's been a it's been a. road. Yes. And like the best thing is that um. social media removed the.

barriers for information knowledge. Um, and anyone can say whatever they want. And. I find that the truth. is like. it I I don't find I know that the truth. is like resonating more. So people like. understand more about health, psychedelics. Yeah. >> Peptides, love, relationships, authenticity. There's a reason why like.

certain celebrities are like falling off. is because they're just like, "Oh, you're fake as [ __ ] We don't like you.". Um, so [gasps] I think it's a good. thing. It's a great thing. Um, and it it. almost goes back to like freedom of. speech, but like imagine freedom of. speech with. marketing behind it. >> Yeah. I think it's like um I do I you. can hope that we're in a new revolution.

of some sort, you know? That's always a. nice hope to have, I find. Um dude, let's talk about some of these fights, dude. Uh. who had the dumbest trunks on that you. fought? You thought you were like, "This. [ __ ] I'm knocking this guy out just. because of the trunks." [laughter]. Was there anybody who's just like I. can't. [sighs and gasps]. I'm not going to lie, bro. Like Ben. Ascrin,

I [ __ ] love the guy. I donated to his. double lung surgery, but like bro, he. just doesn't have any stees. >> Like he's the most like vanilla like. dumbass white guy who just like got told. what to wear. Bro, it's [laughter]. I don't even remember it until you. pulled up this photo, >> but like bro, he looks like a [ __ ]. idiot. >> He just wore kind of like um trunks from. the um like you literally just like.

found him at a local store. >> Yeah, it's he always had this there was. always an energy during that where it. seemed like he just kind of woken up. earlier, you know. Um and blessings to him. He's. doing much better now. Um, dude, so what. about uh MVP? You guys have host you. guys have um pro promoted like 30 fights. now. >> Okay, you're you're teaching me this. information, so thank you.

>> Um, how has that been as a promoter? How. has it been different than you thought. it would be? What's been like what is. what is some of the energy going on with. that? Um. yeah, like we came into the game and um. this was like. I saw boxing as like taxi and we were. Uber. Um and it was just like so obvious. and we operate as like a startup and me.

and my business partner don't need. money. >> [laughter]. >> I just think it's funny. No, >> Nikisa. >> Okay. Sorry. >> He's from Iran. Um, [laughter]. >> Jeff's going to love this [ __ ] He's. going to watch it and be like, "Oh, [ __ ] Yeah, >> it [laughter]. [clears throat]. >> Jeff, I think you should change your. Instagram to G [laughter] it." Um, so me.

and Nikisa have money from other [ __ ]. and don't need to do it. And that's why. our motto is always like fighter first. And um, [sighs and gasps]. that's that's actually like very. important. So when you start there where. you like fighter first and operate as a. startup, we like instantly. took over and resonated with fighters. and are clearly the best to work with.

and make our fighters the most amount of. money and give them the highest. percentage of the fights, etc. Um, but. on top of that, if you like just want to. talk analytics, like coming into the. game, I have 100 million followers or. something like that. >> Wow. >> And the second biggest promoter is Dana. White with like 30. So, I'm like three. times bigger than him. Is that y'all's.

biggest competition then? Is it uh. is there another boxing? Well, I guess. there's Zufa. There's Zufa's new. >> Yeah, they just started and they're. already making like a lot of mistakes. and are are quite quite basic. Um, and. yeah, like you don't want to pay Connor. Ben $15 million to do a easy ass fight. against Regis. um.

right off rip because. your whole UFC model. is paying fighters like onethird of that. max and. >> do you think it sets a tough precedent. for them? >> Exactly. They already [ __ ] up like. bad. Um, maybe if they were to like buy us or. partner with us, they would like have. such a better outcome, which I truly.

believe. And. >> could you see a world where you partner? >> I'm I'm open to it. Yeah. Bu by us. Like, we'll help you guys not be idiots. Um, you you you would the [snorts]. amount of money you would spend. Like, I. don't have an ego, bro. I'll work with. anybody. >> But Dane is [clears throat] a very smart. guy. I mean, he's. >> not smart enough. What makes you say that? Just look at what he's doing. Like you. don't you don't. not pay your fighters,

bro. Like you don't get Jon Jones on the. White House card. First of all, Justin Gai is going to lose to Ilia on. the White House card. So you have a Spaniard beating a white. American on the patriotic White House. card. Like, okay, big mistake, first of. all. Second of all, why are you not. going to pay Jon Jones?

Do you think it was a financial thing. with him or. >> No, this is like one of the most. profitable sports organizations in. history. Their their investors have. gotten greedy. They're in control. they. um. they are looking at the P&Ls and being. like, yo, like we can just keep pumping. this [ __ ] And they're not they're not. they forgot their heart as a company. That's the problem. >> And so,

um. it's it's dying. And also MMA is not. like a. I'm always going to speak the truth and. I'm I'm I'm partners with Netflix on MMA. event. So. >> well I know you guys have that you guys. have that event coming up. >> but MMA hasn't stood the test of time. because the best people in the sport. become wrestlers and they just like hold.

on. What do you mean like CM Punk? You. mean. >> there's a lot of great fighters in the. >> No, Khabib, Cosma, like. >> Oh, they become wrestlers. I've seen. like ground game guys, not like WWE. guys. >> This is boring. No one wants to watch. that. >> There is a level of. >> So, so it hasn't stood the test of time. Boxing has been around since the 1500s. MMA is 30 years. and it's declining. And also because. it's not.

ran properly and they're becoming greedy. and it's like a super corporate. organization. uh where they're signed with Paramount. They have stockholders. It's a part of. the WWE Arian public company blah blah. blah. So, when they're paying fighters. like 15% of the revenue, by the way, down to 10%. Uh, the investors are going to be like, "Yeah, we're going to make more money.".

>> Is it down to 10% and they change it? >> It's It's going down. >> So, you're just You're assuming that it. is going. >> The NFL pays their athletes 50% of the. revenue. >> Got it. >> So, if the NFL makes a billion dollars, the athletes make 500 million. Got it. In [snorts] the UFC, it's 150 million out of a billion. But when you exclude Conor McGregor and. Jon Jones from that, it becomes like.

five zero, like 5%, 50 million out of a. billion. >> because they make less. You mean the. overall gross is less. So then the. percentage is less. >> Yeah. because that number factors in the. super fights where um I am a UFC fan and. I've just enjoyed being associated over. there. I have so much fun over there. It's such an interesting thing. Um you. know some of the business side I don't. know about but I it does feel like. here's what I hear people say the cards. have gotten uh not as interesting, right? Because there's more cards. But.

you also hear people say that um like my. sponsor was saying this morning he's. saying, "Dude, I love that I can just. turn on Paramount and that the UFC is on. there every week." So, I think there's. like, you know, there's different. avenues to go down with it. And I think. that sports. >> is paramount. Like, who has that? Do you. have one? >> I don't know. Exactly. >> Yes. I don't know if I do. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah, I might. I probably do. I don't. >> I think I think I have one, but like I. don't know. That's how it is. >> That's what I mean. >> So, but I didn't do. >> like if they were like gun to head,

gonna shoot you log in probably going to. figure [laughter] out the login. >> Hilarious, dude. That's true. >> So. >> that's [ __ ] Bro, that's a great game. show, dude. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Loganddeath.com. >> All right. Today we [ __ ] some dude. You pull him in blindfolded. He's like, "Motherfucker, you got 30 seconds to get. into Spotify [laughter]. Premium." Everyone would die. He gets to. call his wife. You get one call, but.

that person can't look it up. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Um, [clears throat]. >> you [ __ ]. >> I We just. >> I thought you knew this, honey. >> Damn it, Stephanie. >> You're the one that What is it? >> You're the one. [laughter]. >> Wizard 60. What is it? You guys are co-promoting the new MMA. card that's on Netflix. >> Yeah. So, that's the whole thing is. like, >> bro, why are you laughing? >> Bro, look at this. Is this is crazy. though, bro. Was there another.

opportunity for Enanu to fight someone. else? I mean, I know that Linds is kind. of a new uh name to a lot of people. Yeah, but he he's he's um uh very. [ __ ] good. It's it's a more dangerous. fight for him than um who do we have. as the other opponent? >> It should be in Gunover Damn Bigfoot. If. y'all could find him, [snorts]. >> people would watch that [ __ ].

We had a we had a I forget who the [ __ ]. it was. We had a different name. Um. who was a bigger name and easier fight. for him. So as Francis is, you know, we. joke around and fight blah blah blah. marketing, but like respect to him for. for doing this. And um. >> it's a very challenging fight. So uh. it's going to be fun. and and Diaz. versus Perry like. >> it just gangster gangster bro.

>> We just had uh actually Nate Diaz on. this is before we knew that you were. coming on and he was on like it hasn't. even come out yet but he did talk about. this something um pull up the clip that. he had talked about. He talked about. some of the fight fights between us. >> Yeah, he talked about a couple of things. here. Let me see what we got in here. >> I'm not fighting for MVP. I'm fighting. for Netflix and I'm fighting from Real. Fight Incorporated, which I'll probably be. doing next with Netflix anyway. Real.

Fight Entertainment on a thing and show. you how to throw real. [clears throat]. uh MMA fight show. I've been in the UFC. for 20 years now. So, I'm like, yo, I'm. going to do that from real fighting. with, you know, I'm not working for. [ __ ] MVP like all these other. [ __ ] are. I'm a UFC fighter. I'm working for me. for real fighting and I'm hunting Jake. Paul's [ __ ] ass, not taking a.

fight with a guy who's on the comeback. Me and [ __ ] Connor will fight again when. the time is right and it's time to. fight, but it's going to be when we both. on the uprise, not not when someone's. dying out the whole fighting. Even like. Paul, I feel like I beat Paul. A lot of. people felt that way. >> But it was his like big show, so it's. like okay, all right. But I know I know. from experience I ain't winning no. decisions even if I do. So watch that. fight over and don't read the punch. count in your own count without somebody. else's. I won that fight too.

>> What do you think there Jake? And that was Nate. [sighs]. >> Um. yeah. No, I I I never say the word. I. think it's like super offensive. Um, I. would never say it. Um, when when you see someone that's like. it's just hard to like.

comprehend what they're saying. And um. I'm going to take like a business higher. level. I'm going to take the high road. >> Okay. because he technically is. working for my company and he's trying. to deny it in that clip. Um, and I'll just leave it there because I. don't care about that. I want MMA to. grow.

But yes, technically, like he's he's. literally lying. I don't work for Okay, that that's fine, bro. Like, whatever your ego wants, >> I'll bend down to it for now because MMA. is going to prosper and you Nate should. just not lie. Um, and. yeah, [ __ ] Like, do you think he's.

lying about the part about him thinking. that he won? Oh, that that's that's that's that's. I I I don't address stupidity. like that. That's the most bizarre part. about it. But like I don't have time to. address stupidity. >> Do you cuz then you give it more. momentum. Um, and maybe I'll do it just. just this one time, but like the judges.

said I won every single round. So, if it. was like a close fight, that would be a different combo. But. this guy was like easy work. Lightest. puncher I've ever fought. Um, >> is that true or you just saying that? >> On my mom's life, rest in peace, striker. down god. Nate Diaz is is the is the. lightest and worst puncher I've ever. fought. He's the toughest.

>> and he took the most damage, but in a. sport. that's it's not something to brag about. Like I'm the tough, bro. People People. come up to me and they're like, "You're. so tough. You took shots from Joshua." I. was like, "This I don't want to be. complimented like this, right? I don't want to be tough. That means you're just getting beat up. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. >> Like the [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point, dude. I.

don't want to be tough, >> bro. Any boxer is tough sucks. No, I'm. joking. But like, my coaches told me. this early on. They're like, "This is not a tough sport. This is a. mental sport.". Um, do you feel like you owe. Nate or one of the other UFC guys an MMA. bout? Does that does any of that weigh. on you sometimes? >> Yeah. Yeah. I I I want Nate in MMA. >> and and a good bout.

>> Yeah. I think I think it's it's high on. my list of priorities to do that. >> And what's the toughest like kind of uh. like barrier to entry to getting that. done? Is it just the time it would take. to get more prolific in some of that. ground game and some of in in in. jiu-jitsu? No, no, it's ju it's just the. business side. Got it. Um. he probably wants a certain amount of. money to take the risk in losing to me.

Um. and yeah, I just don't give a [ __ ] I. have enough money. I got all my [ __ ]. So, um, that that's why these guys are actual. ducks is cuz you can't like hide behind. money anymore. Um, [sighs]. so yeah, I I think I think it's going to. happen though. And and espec if he if he. beats Perry.

then me versus Nate is probably the. number one thing on the list like above. Tommy Fury, above Francis and Ganu above. KSI. Do you think he could beat Perry? I. think he will. Yeah, I think he'll take. him down and submit him. >> What do you think? That's such a dog fight, dude. Mike. Perry, first of all, the funny they're.

two of like really the most beloved. outlier guys that like um. >> they're just such both unique guys and. they kind things. >> I mean, I'm just I'm trying to evade the. question. Uh what's the program you have. with the charity? It's the program for. the a it's for like uh parents parents. of autistic children giving them like a. day off. Yeah. So like that that's why this fight.

is awesome is like their parents are. both going to get hella days off. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean I don't see it but. yeah. Um, >> so, so you think they're smart? >> Like you, you would classify Nate Diaz. and and Mike Perry as smart. >> I think, >> and by the way, that's secluded from. autist. >> Okay. [laughter]. >> Like autistic people are the smartest.

people in the world, but like I'm just. obviously joking, but. >> you think they're [ __ ] smart. >> I think they got the toughest [ __ ]. autism that there exists. I wish I had. that touch gloves to, you know, that's. what I wanted. [laughter]. Um, >> if they were starting a company, would. you invest in it? >> Oh, come on, bro. That's crazy, bro. That's a [laughter] crazy thing to ask. somebody in during the daytime. I'm pretty sure it's like [laughter]. six. >> I think, dude. Uh, I would It depends on.

what kind of business it was. I think. >> Oh, yeah. >> If it were like a dog catching business, [laughter]. >> [ __ ] yeah, bro. >> Or brain rejuvenation business. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I But yeah, if. it's like Yeah. doing taxes and [ __ ]. No, no, no, no. [laughter]. Now, if it's just finding Yeah. If it's. just [ __ ]. If it's [ __ ] getting your money back. from somebody down the street business, [laughter].

then take my money, fellas. You got it. I'm in, dude. Um, there's a female fil. [laughter]. >> There's a I got to go. >> We got to get done. No, we don't. We. don't. We do, dude. To know, bro. You. know how much you know how many clips we. pumped out of this [laughter] [ __ ]. >> We're going to be on Twitter for like. nine days straight. >> It's [ __ ] [laughter] ridiculous, dude. God, I got to get some [ __ ]. help. That's the number one thing I say. to myself every day, dude, is I got to.

get some help. Um Rousey Corano, what do. you feel about this bout, dude? Corano's. been out for a while. >> Yeah, I I think um was it tough to make. that the lead bout? Was there a purpose. in that? Like a reason behind it? >> Yeah, we're we're we're like proponents. for for women mostly like putting them. on the forefront. Um and I genuinely. like believe that. women's boxing is so entertaining. Um,

>> they're shorter rounds and they just. like [ __ ] go at each other and I. think they have a chip on their shoulder. so it becomes more entertaining than. like a 12 round Floyd versus De La Hoya. where they're just like [ __ ] tapping. each other for 12 rounds and everyone's. disappointed. Um, so yeah, that was that was part of the. purpose and um and that's MVPW. That was. part of a group you guys launched. >> Yeah, we Yeah. So, my comedy is MVP uh.

and then and then we have MVP W, which. is like women's um that that side of. things. >> And were you searching for your. fighters? How are you going to populate. this to have good bouts? >> Like is that become a concern because a. lot of people are under UFC contract? >> No, it's the opposite. So, so, um, like. we have all the best women signed to us.

for boxing. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I mean, now MMA, I guess, as well, like starting in MMA, but mostly boxing. the the the beautiful thing about it is. that um. we can make the mega fights happen. because we know both sides of the party. and but will you will will they be able. to fight in UFC? Will will people under. your banner be able to fight in UFC or.

Netflix's thing if they keep this going. or are they separate? >> No, no, no, no. Um, yeah, we're like a. completely separate from the UFC. >> Got it. >> Um, and a competitor. So, so it's actually like. UFC's with Paramount, MVPs with Netflix. Okay, I got it now. >> Yep. >> Dang, dude. That's wild, bro.

Congratulations, man. >> Yeah, thank you. ratulations, dude. It's. in, you know, like um watching you is a. is an interesting sport, you know, and I mean that in a lot of. like really so that so it it like. increases your heart rate to watch me. probably does, [laughter] which is okay. >> It's a sport. >> I mean it just like uh you know Yeah. Like it's there's there's admiration. because you you know you kind of you.

defy the odds or you re. you you kind of like I don't know you. can I I don't know what it is. It's. interesting and it's it's fun. and it's interesting to see a guy who's. fighting and is also in the business. side. I think there's just a lot of. stuff to see you be a business guy is uh. is is it's all interesting dude. It's. judgmental. No, I I would um I would agree. And um I. think I I I wrote like a little.

stupid [ __ ] thing to put on my. Instagram. Yeah. >> That I think can like summarize me a. little bit. Um I think it's like super. [ __ ] gay to talk about it, but um you. want me to read it? like we might not. put this part in. Okay. But like. >> it it kind of summarizes what you're. saying. Okay. So, >> uh life became unrelatable so it's easy.

to become hatable. I live in truth so my. views are undebatable. Life's become. approvals and payables. Funny how I was the only one who knew I. was capable. Now anything in life is. available. only because I ca became. unbreakable. once in a generation beyond occasional. Send all the pressure, please. God is.

protecting me. I'm gravitational. I hope you don't hate and use it as. motivational, but honestly, this [ __ ] is. not sustainable or very attainable. have to manage it with Ivy League. occupational. Harvard lady over there. [snorts]. I post more content than you, but I'm. still untraceable. I hate to be cocky, but at this point, it's educational. This is who the [ __ ] I am. It's not.

recreational. You probably could, but if we're being. honest, you are not capable. So, again, that's why I'm hatable. Is he a. politician, investor, rapper, boxer? It's unexplainable. And that's why I'm. inescapable. So, I think that's like what? Dude, I. [ __ ] really like that. I. [clears throat] think And you know what? Yes. That's what I was trying to say. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> And it is.

>> And it is, man. And you know the sad. part about it is that like people are. going to like um clip that and then. >> and but but that's why I'm saying it's. like sad that they're going to clip it. and be like bro thought he cooked. >> No, we're not saying that you are um. what's that guy's called? Ghana or. whatever. We're just saying that you I. that you explained exactly what I was. thinking and that's and I agree. >> That's why that's why I brought it up. Otherwise, I wouldn't have. But but but.

the sad part is that people are going to. clip it and be like [laughter]. but people are also freaking touching. their own dicks all the time. So people. are disgusting. your own dick. >> Jerking off is gay, dude. You're jerking. a dude off. Yeah, it's you. But it's still a dude, bro. [ __ ] that. Now some chick rolls up with a [ __ ]. Maybe I'll help her out. You feel me? BLM dude. Um, so you love Thailand?

[laughter]. >> Never been. I haven't even looked at I. haven't even gone there on like one of. those like um map zoom in views like. view street views or whatever. [laughter]. >> Do uh. your brother just had a child. Do you. get competitive with him? Like do you. start to think about that yet or you. guys aren't really kicking that can. around at the moment? Because once wife got that goal, bro, you know what I'm saying? You could. hatch something. [laughter] And sorry, that's just. something I read recently on a uh on a. headstone in Memphis. So that was just.

like. >> hatch something. >> Yeah, once wife got that gold, you could. hatch something, you know. That's just. like just see. >> someone else's wife got gold. >> Pretty rare. >> No, I just mean somebody might have got. a gold grill put in or something. It. could mean anything. I've read it. Yeah, >> you're right. >> Um No, it's inspiring. Yeah, it's so. inspired. Has it been interesting to see. him be a dad? Like is that different? >> It's He's a [ __ ] loser now. [laughter] It's so funny, Logan. Bro, you go to bed at 10:00 p.m.

Like, he used to be cool and like kick. it and like drink and smoke with us and. then. he just like goes to bed at 10 p.m. But. honestly, bro, I'm so happy for him. Like, this is what's needed. Like, he's. amazing. Um, and he's a great dad. It's. just like funny because, and again, I. would never use the word the R word, but. like when when um He's walking down the. beach with his um kid and I'm like,

"Bro, this is my brother." Like he's. [ __ ] and he's like carrying the baby. [laughter] down down the [ __ ] beach. and he's like got on his shoulder. I'm. like, "Bro, what the [ __ ] is going on?". It's just It's just funny. Um but I'm. I'm so happy for him. And Esme is like. the coolest thing in the world. And. yeah, she she's like 18 months and um. I I like went to hang out with her the.

other day and like we don't see each. other a lot cuz we're always busy. Logan's traveling. We like whatever. But. um she's looking at me. and I'm like saying hi to her and she. goes, "Jake." And she says my name for the. first time. I was like, "Bro, >> game over.". >> That's cool. >> I was like I started like getting teary. eyed and like. >> it's just the craziest thing ever. Has.

it brought your family over all closer. together? >> 100%. >> Isn't that amazing? >> Yeah. >> It's crazy how something like that when. we first had my first niece, it like it. was like the first time we were a. family. It felt like in some ways. >> Yeah, I would agree. I I think. and and Nenah, by the way, is is such a. great mom. She's doing such a great job. and she um like sends videos and. pictures to us every day.

>> Oh, that's sweet of her. >> And so, like, shout out to Nina for for. [ __ ] being amazing on that side of. things. Um. >> Yeah. It's nice. It keeps you involved. Makes you feel like a part of it. That's. important. >> Yep. And they do this thing where it's. like outfit of the day and like uh Esme. like loves it and she like knows even. though she can't talk really [sighs]. she like puts on her outfit and then. Nina like films her coming out of the.

room with the outfit and like hypes her. up and then Esme like loves it and is. like [laughter]. she like knows that it's like some. important moment. Um, so it's really. [ __ ] beautiful. Like little [ __ ] like. that. >> Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, stuff like. that that makes you feel kind of. connected. That's awesome. Shout out to. Nina. That's beautiful. And. congratulations to them. It is exciting. That baby looks so happy, huh?

Happiest baby ever, I think. >> Really, bro? >> That's the blessing. I get these videos. every day and she's just like happiness. Maxine. Dude, when you get some cap ass. baby, that shit's [ __ ] [laughter]. trash. >> Honestly, like that's the problem is you. can't return it. >> I know. [laughter] You got to [ __ ]. remodel that. >> There's no coupon. >> Put some [ __ ] Fendy on that [ __ ] or. something. You got to do something, bro. Cuz they got some cap ass children out. there. Um, >> they got to redo the genetics type [ __ ].

>> Um, blessings to them, man. Jake, thanks. for coming and hanging out, dude. >> Yep. >> I appreciate it, bro. I've just enjoyed. getting to talk to Dude, this is the. most you and I've ever talked and I I. think it's like, yeah, you just get a. different concept of people. It's hard. to know people until you talk to them. Dude, Brian Johnson, I thought that that. guy was going to be like he was going to. show up like in bubble wrap or something. [laughter]. [ __ ] drinking his own [ __ ] or. something, bro. But, bro, >> sorry. [laughter]. You know, he's had a little. >> Wait, but by the way, what I'm saying.

is, dude, he was a cool He was like just. it just like it's just interesting until. you get to know somebody. You're right. We live in this place where we assume. things based on what we see. It's all. it's all uh interesting and some of it's. our some of it's our fault and some of. it is a place of where we are. Um it's. interesting though. >> You know I uh I killed him. the other day. >> Did you really? >> Yeah, I killed him. >> He'll be back. [laughter].

>> Oh, you put him asleep. >> I put him to sleep. >> Wow. He's supposed to go to bed at 4:30. p.m. Anyway, >> I killed him. [laughter] Dude. >> Hell yeah, bro. This dude is up for. anything, bro. >> No, no, no. Like he's dead. >> Oh, damn. Okay. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Well, I don't know. >> So, like I I kind of [ __ ] up the don't. die movement, but like he's he he's such. a great guy, but I had to kill him. Hey, bro. [laughter]. I kind of feel you. You know, he is that.

neighbor that's out in the front yard. [ __ ] boiling his own blood and [ __ ]. You know [laughter] that can [ __ ]. >> I love that guy. He's a genius, but like. bro I'm I'm I'm Jake Paul. I had to go. viral. >> Oh yeah, bro. >> So I had to kill him, >> dude. Yeah, sometimes. >> it's for the game. >> Yeah. [laughter] See that [ __ ] for sure, dude. >> RIP Brian Johnson, bro. Yeah. >> See you at the crossroads, homie. Gang. Thanks, Jake.

Now I'm just falling on the breeze and I. feel I'm falling like these [music]. leaves. I must be corner stone. Oh, but when I [music] reach that. ground, I'll share this piece of mind I. found. I can [music] feel it in my. bones. But it's going to take.