HARDY | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #433

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day before the Miami UFC fights we will. be in Uncasville Connecticut July 21st. Bethlehem PA July 22nd and Atlantic City. New Jersey on July 23rd all tickets are. available at theovan.com t-o-u-r. today's guest is an award-winning singer. and songwriter he's written for some of. the greats like Morgan Wallen and Blake.

Shelton. he has a new solo album the Mockingbird. and the crow which he's out touring with. right now uh I've gotten to know him. over the past few years and there is no. one. just more down to earth and enjoyable to. be around than this man today's guest is. Hardy. [Music].

[Music]. [Applause]. I live like I could walk here I would be. tired but I could walk here could you. really yeah I mean I would be tired it.

would take me. all right so it would take you so it. would take you how long to walk here I. mean maybe 30 minutes but it was like. two miles it's like a mile and a half. but that's not walking somewhere that's. your at that point you're you're. hitchhiking yeah kind of I could bum a. rod here yeah yeah there you go for sure. yeah I could bum a ride here that's I. feel like that feels like a better. statement yeah that's I don't know why. people don't use that like because. because technically you know how they're. like you could walk there and like. technically you could pretty much walk.

any like you could walk anywhere yeah. and so you had to swim or whatever but. yeah you could walk almost like it's. crazy it's crazy to think of the old. days when people were like. I'll head over and they get out there. like four hours oh yeah anything. Anything could happen between them like. you wouldn't know yeah like you'd have. to be like you'd have to call somebody. on a pay phone and be like I'll see you. on Saturday. and before payphones it was like by. letter it was like I'll be there next. month and then they never showed up and. they just like got killed by a bear or. something.

or people like like a parent showed up. and they're like where's our daughter. and the guy's like us you know she. [ __ ] died she went to get some water. and I haven't seen her he's lying I took. her he took her life yeah exactly that's. like some Game of Thrones [ __ ] dude oh. it's heartbreaking man yeah we live in a. we live in a more convenient time than. than ever yeah it's pretty wild it's so. yeah things are almost too convenient. now it is dude we I've I've somebody. needs to do a study on this but I get I. think that like do you remember like in.

the 90s 80s whenever but that when you. heard a song on the radio that you loved. and you the next time you got to hear. that song was on the radio yeah so and. that was so euphoric to hear that song. again because you didn't have access to. it where now it's like if you like one. song you can go listen to every single. thing that artist or whatever has ever. done yeah and back then you had the the. luxury of having that euphoric moment of. like oh having that to yourself you know. and then having to like record it on the. on the [ __ ] on the cassette yeah yeah.

yeah well it almost felt magical too. like if it came on at a certain moment. it was like that world that was like the. gods telling you this is it you know. yeah like oh I was driving by and this. played and there he was yeah and you had. no control over it it just had to happen. to you yeah now you can sit outside of. somebody's house for like seven hours. and play the same song over and over. again you know until the cops show up. and take you somewhere yeah exactly but. it's like you couldn't have before you. couldn't yeah you couldn't build up that. dirty momentum like you can now uh.

dang dude that is so crazy things see. but then think of how much power the DJ. had back then yeah because he's like you. know what right now I feel things out. there kind of slipping slipping out of. our grasp when we put you guys on. something and he put out a love tune. yeah yeah or like we are the world you. know what I mean like oh he controlled. The Narrative of people's lives back in. the day. it's pretty crazy DJ was powerful wasn't. he. it was always like the DJ had a dance it.

was like that but for the whole city or. a nation it was like when that song came. on it was like this is what everybody's. gonna feel if somebody right now is like. if two spouses are fighting or whatever. the casserole went good I'm about to hit. him with this love ballad and. everything's gonna change yeah and. that's the only way that they could hear. it they couldn't do it themselves let's. see how to a violin or something yeah or. a capability yeah you know yeah yeah. yeah you had to have a real capability. yeah something like that. um.

Hardy good to see you man happy to be. here man I know I'm stoked yeah thank. you so much for your time man you guys. are I know you were uh or post your. flight or let or leaving tomorrow now I. really appreciate you making the time. dude I am a lot I'm glad to make it man. um I'm so happy for your career dude. thank you it's been awesome past couple. years has been incredible bro I didn't. know you are such a it's almost like. going to a. Fitness him it is like going to a dang.

show yes when you go see Hardy if you. have not if you haven't gone to see. Hardy then you you need to go see him. um you're going to be touring with. Morgan and doing what do you what do you. have right now I'm on I have my first. like real Live Nation like headliner. tour Mockingbird and the crow tour and. we're like. a quarter of the way through it now it's. only like 20 shows so uh like five. weekends but uh yeah this summer I'm. doing the uh uh I guess it's called one. night at a time tour with Morgan I.

should know I should be more confident. with that but I think that's what it's. called when Morgan uh Ernest. uh and Bailey Zimmerman and then Parker. McCollum is going to when I there's some. shows that I can't do because I had. other shows booked so he's he's doing. filling my spot when when I'm gone or. whatever nice and that's dude. like two nights at the biggest venues in. the world is like the craziest thing to. me uh it just like what do you mean when. you say when you're saying that you're. like like well just Morgan like I've. known him for so long now and like he.

you know he's always just been Morgan. and and it's just it's so hard to. process that one of my friends is. literally quite literally the one of the. biggest artists on the planet like yeah. college football stadiums are the. biggest. [Music]. yeah dude yeah maybe even White Michael. Jack the Yeah well yeah yeah he's like I. don't know he's the Michael hat he's a. country yeah yeah yeah exactly dude but.

no he's like Elvis Presley. kinda dude it's crazy yeah and like I. just I don't know I came up with him and. like. I I I like toured with him like he. brought me on my first tour as an opener. and we were doing like rooms of like 800. maybe to 2000 you know and just to know. that he's doing which is still like 80. 000 people and [ __ ] is [ __ ]. unbelievable so proud of him man yeah oh. it's I mean it's I mean I've only known. you guys for maybe a couple years and.

I went I got to go to some of his shows. last tour yeah but and it was amazing I. mean when Morgan goes on you know you've. heard I never realized that I could sing. for two hours straight like everybody. you know every single word everybody in. the whole place is singing it too which. is awesome yeah it's awesome but. watching you man it is like a fit it's. like. I'm like dang if that guy's wearing his. I just said that on an interview like an.

hour ago that dude is he gonna step out. he's gonna beat his year somehow I get. fat when I go on tour dude I have no. idea how dude bro cause it yeah it's. just incredible man it's such a show bro. it's so powerful yeah I'm just it's I. don't know I just have the I feel like. I grew up like watching Rock shows and. then like I. FGL had me out a lot like early and I. got to watch their show and how active. they were and like I don't know I just. feel like I learned from that and that's. just kind of the only way I know how to. you know translate all that into mine or.

whatever. yeah it feel and it just feels like it. fits you it feels like just like oh. you're just getting who Hardy is that's. what I'm feeling like oh wow yeah this. is who this guy is this is real exciting. yeah man it matches the music too. especially with like we're doing the. rock stuff now and and so it's the music. itself is really high energy so I feel. like I'm just having to keep up with my. the mute the songs you know oh damn. portray all that at the same time I. guess are there ones where you got to. take a couple breaths before you start. the bro yeah there's dude I there are.

some songs that I am like suffocating. dude and I literally I'll just like hold. the mic out and be like you guys come on. but really I'm like just [ __ ] dying. dude just trying to catch my breath and. have your fans are probably smokers dude. like no no you yeah you do it no you no. you and I'm like no [ __ ] seriously. dude uh yeah there's times for sure man. like the first right now our set the. first six songs is like a ball buster. dude and it's awesome but there's like. no break and they're the first.

five songs especially are like all the. the biggest like the heaviest like rock. songs and the biggest singing and. screaming songs so there's like no break. it's crazy that's fine exhausted but. it's fun yeah the new album's so. Mockingbird of the crow it's like um it. reminds me some of Kid Rock in a way. that's a yeah it reminds me of Kid Rock. and and then obviously country music. yeah you know so it's that's uh and. people see you look like Kid Rock too.

dude do you remember. we were somewhere when you met Kid Rock. weren't we in the same place we were. dude it was uh Miranda Lambert opened. her bar yes the uh um oh man Casa Casa. Rosa or something like that yeah like a. Spanish bar yeah yeah yeah in downtown. and uh yeah she had a big big. star-studded thing there we go yeah and. people and people had always told you. you guys look like each other well damn. yeah dude I get it I'm seeing more memes. and stuff now yeah and I like that night.

when we met like he already knew about. it apparently so like he made a joke he. like was like my long lost brother which. kind of that because because I I was a. huge fan of Kid Rock back in the day. like massive and still am and I know him. now which is crazy but I love him and. and um. yeah so heathel's in on the joke and. like the first thing he did is like took. my hat off and put his hat I was like. let's take a picture you know Twins or. whatever it was cool yeah but yeah that. was that night I was I forgot about that. that was really cool yeah I think I.

honestly I think I might have taken one. of those pictures I don't have to look. through my pictures and see. um yeah so where did some of that that. come from for you so because some guys. don't have that both sides of that thing. they're really they're in one world kind. of but you don't you really want that's. you have a foot in both yeah in both. boots man I tell everybody like I grew. up in a small town and you know country. you know I grew up 8 000 people and uh. probably real similar to Covington right. yeah yeah similar just just small small.

ass town and so. like growing up that's everything. lifestyle wise I absorbed so that's like. that's where all the country comes from. and the lyrics and all that stuff that's. how I grew up but like I did not listen. to country music at all who listened to. music in your house everybody my music. other than like God you know like music. was number two behind you know religion. in my in my house like like uh. there was always music playing my sister. was a really good singer. uh my dad didn't play or sing but he was.

like obsessed with rock and roll and my. mom played piano so I mean music was you. know it was huge in my house so I had no. choice but to be obsessed with it. growing up do you remember like the. first song you ever heard kind of yeah. really I I have a vivid memory dude it. was uh Alive by Pearl Jam oh dude I know. where we were in Philadelphia in. Philadelphia Mississippi yeah we were in. my dad's truck and he had a cassette and. he said listen to this this is a band. called Pearl Jam and he put the cassette. in and that riff from a live started. playing it was like something out of a.

movie dude my brain chemistry just. changed and I was like what the [ __ ] is. this and I was like four but I remember. it's one of my first dude amazing it. changed my life forever. did you and was it just you and your dad. in that in that moment yeah yeah. yeah and he he saw it like then like he. he was like okay this you know thank God. like my son loves rock and roll or. whatever and so. from then until I could like drive. basically every time we got in the truck. it was something new Aerosmith was easy. top you know and but it was never.

country he he liked a little bit of like. Merle Haggard and like I guess if you. call John Prine country like but he knew. he never played it was always rock and. roll so I owe all of my and then I found. you know then I got into like by the my. like Prime setting like teen you know. angst or music influence years was like. Linkin Park and like puddle of Mud and. all that new metal Limp Biscuit and all. that [ __ ] so I've kind of discovered. that on my own but I owe all of my. childhood like music. taste or whatever to my dad it was all. classic rock yeah there's something.

interesting um because Lainey Wilson was. just on here yeah listen to it yeah. she's great yeah awesome yeah dude she. like. I mean yeah she's magical and you guys. have that great song together man. um wait in the truck yeah and uh so but. I was thinking like and I was talking on. there about the first time that I heard. a song I was with my babysitter and I. wonder sometimes if there's like. something about just you and your dad. together like sometimes it takes like a. certain like uh.

I don't know what I'm thinking exactly. like because I remember it was that I. was alone with I'd never been in a car. with somebody that wasn't like probably. all my brothers and sisters at the same. time or all of us I was like my. babysitter was taking me somewhere so it. was me and her right it was just like. this moment and then she put in a. cassette and so my senses were already. real alert yeah yeah yeah that's. interesting I never really thought about. it like that but I'm sure you and your. dad are probably going different places. together but that's cool that he put. that in dude imagine if there's like a. dad and he puts like a good song on for. the kid and the kid doesn't give a [ __ ].

dude. they're coming from a music family like. it would have broken my dad's heart if I. would have just looked and said like I. don't I don't like this can you just. turn it can we sit in silence a. four-year-old just asking if he could. turn it off this hurts my ears or. something dude bro that would be so. crazy he would have he would have died. he would have hated that or the dad even. puts on something that's kind of like. just not even that great and the kids. like this is trash yeah because Dad like. loves his favorite song it's just the. kids like this [ __ ] sucks. that would have been horrible dude I.

hope that does not happen to me dude. that would break my heart if I have a. kid one day I know that would have to be. such a heartbreaker you know I think. about that a lot like imagine if your. kid isn't smart and you have to like. wish him good luck on a test or. something when he leaves for school. and you know like the luck isn't. Nothing's Gonna help I I feel like. parents probably go through that though. you know what I mean like your kid sucks. that [ __ ] volleyball out of soccer I. don't know but you go out you just have. like your kid likes it for whatever. reason and you just have to go watch him.

like fail until they lose interest in it. oh that's crazy though if you have a kid. who like. he loves like just not even being good. at it kind of but he still wants to go. because usually kids want to stop going. if they're not good yeah but I guess. when you're like a young kid I don't. know that's I I don't know what would go. on in a kid's mind but like t-ball you. know like if they're horrible. like does the kid is the kid old enough. to be like I'm not very good I don't. feel like a kid would say I'm not very. good at this I don't want to do it. anymore maybe maybe like seven or eight.

but when they're real little maybe not. and then you have to have that talk like. you know like if especially parents that. grew up like you know middle class or. whatever you want to call it and like. they're spending money you know on this. thing and they're you know the kid's. terrible like does the parents sit them. down and say like look maybe you should. find something that's you're gonna. actually be better at so we don't we're. not spending our money on this wasteful. [ __ ] I don't know yeah that's wild I. think that's kind of. yeah I'm trying to think of what I. played I think I play Oh our team was uh. did you play baseball oh dude I was bad.

I was under I couldn't even believe I. was so bad at baseball dude yeah in the. field we played on was like slanted. right we had a bed so slanted down so. what so would a home run be easier to. hit though like. because you know in golf like if it's. downhill it's technically shorter oh no. that would have been great ours was just. slanted over to the side to right field. so every like kind of if you hit it to. third it ended up like out in center. field. so it was what was the name of your part. um. oh we played out at uh Cordell furniture.

an American Legion okay American Legion. yeah that's everybody use a plated. American League yeah yeah yeah ours was. Northside Park but then I'm pretty sure. the American Legion was like right. behind the Park yeah it's like that. comes as a package deal it's like the. National Guard the fire station and the. Americans yeah right yeah especially. like in a smaller community that stuff. is awesome yeah. um so what was Philadelphia like you're. from Philadelphia Mississippi what was. it kind of like man I loved it dude it. sounds like a perfect size eight.

thousands it's the most cliche in a way. the most cliche in the best way like. small town dude like when you hear like. a cliche ass country song about the. courthouse square and the whole deal. yeah it's it is the definition of a. small town but dude it you know I hear a. lot of people I meet a lot of people. that are like talk about where they're. from and they're like I'm glad I got out. of that [ __ ] and like I had never. felt that way I absolutely loved my. hometown yeah it was really cool and. there was obviously you know like drama.

and everything it was all there was just. as much that is the good but I was just. very. thankful for my time there and I still. love to go we had it dude the coolest. thing about my hometown is we have a. county fair and this is worth a Google. called the Nashoba n-e-s-h-o-b-a Nashoba. County Fair okay Neshoba County Fair so. that's see all's County was in Neshoba. County Mississippi I think it means like. uh it's. Choctaw yeah and it's I think it means. like wolf or something like that I'm not. sure I could be wrong or I could be.

completely wrong about that but dude so. this fare is everything else about it is. just like a county fair you have horse. races all the whole thing but you but. you have like 800 of these cabins and. they're all family owned and you you. move out there. uh for an entire week and it's the heat. of the summer it's hot as [ __ ] and you. being from Louisiana in the like the end. of July dude it's brutal but and you. live out there and if they air. conditioning like you know AC units and. all that kind of stuff or window units.

and stuff but dude it's it's the most. fun it's the most unique thing ever. because the town literally shuts down. and everybody in the little Quadra. County area just goes to the fair and. you you people take off work like and. you stay out there and just kind of. party and hang out for a week and it's. amazing and the the houses and stuff. they're around a lake or they're around. oh it's around the around the. fairgrounds picture it like a giant like. Cookie Cutter neighborhood somewhere. okay there's like 10 rows here and then. you kind of go over and there's a little. section here with a long row and then.

back over here but the the the like. Cornerstone of it is around there's. cabins that wrap around the racetrack. and that's like the cool picture-esque. but there there's 800 of them and they. dude it's it's like 200 years old or. something crazy like that they're. family-owned dude they get broken up in. divorces and wills you there if somebody. sells one you can sell them for like. half a million dollars it's a really. cool. little piece of like Americana South. that's like kind of still undiscovered I. can't believe like Barstool Sports or.

somebody hasn't gone out and like kind. of blown it up yet but it's a really. cool Little Gym of the South wow you've. never can you zoom in on one of those. please uh Ben I've never even seen I've. never even heard of this. the Neshoba County Fair yeah man have. you played it yet I did I got to play it. uh I was supposed to play it 2020 I got. first year got canceled since the Civil. War not since the Civil War World War II. um since the depression I believe and. um but so it got canceled so I played it. in 2021 and it was like it's like three.

top three like bucket list places that. you know and I got to play it and it was. incredible wow it's really really cool. and do people come in from around to see. it or is more just the locals kind of go. well the locals it's the locals like. have the cabins right okay and then like. you'll have a you'll have a crew like. from Jackson That's had a cabin for. forever or maybe from Louisiana or like. a town we know family from Texas that. somehow has a cabin that come every year. but like a lot of people from around the. state will come for like a night like. the first weekend and the last weekend.

it starts on a Friday ends on Friday you. know and like so people from all over. will take off work and like crash with a. friend or go and come or whatever but uh. for the most part the people that live. around there are the ones that have the. cabins wow you guys can't see it I mean. if you see it on YouTube maybe you can. see some of these pictures but it's. beautiful I mean yeah they have all. these homes are beautifully colored and. yeah it's like a Bourbon Street kind of. vibe honestly and then it mixed with. like college football every a lot of. cabins are like Ole Miss or Mississippi. State Southern Miss like decorated yeah. kind of thing ours is a big Mississippi. State cabin gang baby yeah wow that's.

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bluechew.com promo code Theo to receive. your first month free and would your. folks do in town like for a living my. dad was a chicken farmer. um and my mom was a food service manager. for Philadelphia High School I went to. Nashoba Central County school but my mom. was the food service manager so she like. was the lunch lady's boss and like oh. damn deals and you know like she had a. big spatula yeah yeah but my dad was a. chicken farmer was he really yeah wow so.

did y'all have extra chickens at the. house as pets and stuff no way he didn't. bring anything this was like this was. like. Tyson chicken dude like oh he's working. out there one of the 100 yard long. houses with 27 500 chickens in a house. and they're violent aren't they those. animals yeah like game roosters are. these chickens were like. I don't know politically correct they. were not Specialists it's fine I was in. special ed yeah they were they were they.

were that kind of deal like they're yeah. but they challenged chickens yeah look. let's be honest what they're giving. people look you ain't get if you getting. a McNugget you ain't getting the best. chicken no you're not and these things. man you ain't getting a Harvard bird you. ain't getting a [ __ ] yeah exactly. you're not getting the ones that are. like on pictures on websites yeah yeah. these were like different they would. start like this big and in seven weeks. they'd be a seven pound chicken they. were pumping them things full of I don't.

even know what I did and were they sit. on like a little gym I mean what do they. do and then they don't move huh no. they're just packed in a house that the. floor is literally chicken [ __ ] oh man. and uh and uh it's just it's crazy it's. the way it is man and and uh there's a. feed line and there's tons of like it's. just a long feed line and it has a. little Reservoir and they eat and. there's water and uh my dad had this. thing called a cake machine scene and it. literally it was designed for chicken. houses that you would go in after they. catch all the chickens because the [ __ ].

would be so compacted after they you. know the people and all the chickens. have been in there and it would break up. the chicken [ __ ] and lay it back out. like dry and like soft for those. chickens cake machine wow. and is that a real machine that they. have yeah I mean it was it breaks up. chicken [ __ ] and then what lays it back. out like almost killing the soil yeah. it's literally it's kind of like that. but it pro it like goes into this it's. like a big machine and you would scoop. it up and it would go through the.

machine somehow and I I think it would. like dry it and just it turns it into. powder again and lays it back down every. time they would catch you'd have to go. back to there it's like mowing grass but. it's like scooping up chicken [ __ ] yeah. wow we had a turkey Farmer on really. yeah it was real interesting just. learning about how quick they get them. ready for Thanksgiving really you know. and how they like change the lights in. there and stuff to make them think that. it's day and night and stuff like that. yeah I think maybe my dad did some of. that too it's kind of like that saw like. saw the movie you know big saw Vibes.

dude for sure like if I. if I if reincarnation is a thing that's. one of the last things if not the last. thing I'd want to come back it would be. one of those chickens dude it's a really. shitty life man. yeah we're doing better than them yeah. um what uh I'm trying to think there's a. bunch of stuff that I wanna that I want. to talk to you about what was it what. was I looking at earlier that I was. thinking about. um whenever you whenever you start. getting into Tunes like what is the.

first instruments that you get like who. gets you keyed into music like obviously. your stuff your dad was listening to you. liked it yeah your mom's playing music. around the house yes right so you're. hearing a lot of good Tunes when do you. start to really get like an ear like oh. this is something that I'm kind of good. at I got I got a guitar when I was. little. um I got like my parents got me like a. little Fender Squier like 100 guitar and. a little guitar amp when I was like. probably fifth or sixth grade and I. picked it up I learned like the bar. chord like the easiest [ __ ] like Smoke.

on the Water and crap like you know what. I mean like oh yeah Alabama and just all. the [ __ ] that everybody learns The. Stairway to Heaven no not even bro I. couldn't that was that was like expert. level compared to the [ __ ] I was. learning yeah damn but um. yeah and I picked that up and then like. I got I I went into my teen years and I. kind of put it back down and then I. picked it up again when I was like 16 or. 17 and that's when I like started to. really I like figured out like right. songwriting and like all that kind of. stuff and like actually learning a. little bit more about the guitar and.

getting a little bit better and stuff. was like like later in high school. and do you feel more like a performer. did you feel like a writer like when you. when you think about what you felt like. that Drew you to something you know like. like sometimes with comedy like I don't. know if I think of myself as a writer I. think of myself as a performer right. it's like me right and yeah like a. performer sure did you have one or did. you have a man it was writing for me. dude it was riding for me until five. years ago like I moved to town to be a.

songwriter and um my goal was to write. hits for people. and then. um so that I always had that I mean like. in like in my favorite class in school I. liked like biology because I loved. animals and like being outside and all. that kind of stuff but I I was not a. very good student but I excelled. randomly in writing I was I always had a. really good knack for whether it was. like essay you know like short story. whatever you had to write in school. and uh I just had a knack for it and I. was obsessed with it like knowing that I.

had the ability to create a story or. make something up or say something in. writing was always like really important. to me for whatever reason and now I know. why like that was just a like that was. the gift that God gave me I guess was my. interest in writing or whatever and um. but so I I that's it was always riding. and then. um the record like the the artist thing. you know people say doing the artist. thing that came around the time like. Morgan's up down was a hit like because.

that was my first number one as a writer. and it was his first number one as an. artist and he was at big loud and I was. writing other songs for other people at. big loud and that's when they kind of. came to me and and they were just like. if you know do you want to do the artist. thing. wow yeah and that was 20 it was 2018. damn so that's not that long no it dude. it feels like a time has flown by but it. also feels like forever ago but like I. didn't I was super apprehensive about it. like well most of that was covered. yeah what a lot of it yeah I mean when I.

really my [ __ ] finally kind of started. going is when 2020 happened. um but I was I saw like what Morgan was. going through and it's not a bad thing. it's it's great but like you if you're. if your [ __ ] like pops off like it. that your life changes you you. understand I mean like your life changes. forever and and I just didn't know like. I had an offer on the table and I sat. with it for months because I didn't know. if I wanted to to do it I was I'd had. some success as a writer and I was like. man this you get to go write a [ __ ]. song and then go play golf every day or.

something and and uh I just got done. reading The Alchemist and that book it. talks about opportunities and Omens and. stuff like that a lot and so I had that. in my head because it it kept kind of. getting brought up of like you know like. are you gonna sign this record deal and. blah blah blah and then I finally just. said I I'm gonna do it because I didn't. want to regret it later you know having. you turned it down or whatever. I think it's awesome that you that you. did choose that I mean you know like. Mississippi has a lot of great writers. yeah you know I mean over time some of. the greatest writers are from.

Mississippi and uh yeah Eudora Welty I. think he's from Mississippi right yeah I. think so. um dude and then you've got Elvis oh. yeah Robert Johnson who arguably created. rock and roll with the blues. um this is is does he have us does his. son did his son play music too I think. so I should know that but I don't. um. but yeah and it's it's nice to see Mrs. kind of like you know because people a. lot of times especially in the South. they put an artist onto a state you know. it's good to see Louisiana getting a guy. it's good to see Mississippi yeah you.

know have a musician you know like that. uh people can get behind and a guy that. has his own point of view and stuff like. that I think it's because also a place. needs that you know there needs to be a. young man in Mississippi right now who. loves your music and then he's gonna. learn he might not even realize right. now you're from Mississippi and then in. five years he will have no way he's for. I could do that yeah so because that's. how things happen absolutely man we had. are you familiar with Marty Stewart uh. he's a big Bluegrass guy pull him up.

please and he had he had a uh he had a. couple of hits in just a regular country. format in the 90s but he's a really. famous Roots like Bluegrass guy and uh. he there he is he is from Philadelphia. Mississippi and so when I was a kid he. was the [ __ ] and so exactly what you're. saying like I always had that in my mind. of like well somebody from Philly went. and did it you know and he really made. it I mean he's very very respected in. the country he's really big in the Opry. and like all that you know and I've.

certainly heard his name before so it. was inspiring man that was like uh I. knew it was like exactly what you said. like it can be done and that gave me the. courage to move up here and give it a. shot well there's a part of your brain. that you don't even know that's working. that it's like okay that's in my head. that that's possible yeah and until that. little thing until that little coin gets. put in your bank yeah your brain doesn't. really have that as a as as part of its. account yeah you're not like hyper. focused on that it's just you're. something no it's just yeah your.

subconscious like oh this can happen in. your subconscious that you know it just. starts to be part of the uh your assets. you know in the background you're like. oh then eventually it can happen my. favorite comedian one of the reasons I. believe that I got into comedy and. storytelling myself um. my best friend Scott he's a uh his dad. is from Jax and his family's from. Jackson Mississippi yeah cool and. I would go up there and he would play. Jerry Clower for me oh come on dude. speaking my language bro he would play.

Jerry Cloud knock him out John dude. like from Yazoo City in Mississippi. that's it and and I was like oh my God. like this guy like. he's a it just it's amazing what he's. doing and like that that this is a. possible thing and I think hearing that. to this day has had a big effect on the. fact that um that I got into. storytelling and then I like it or that. I believed maybe that I could do it. um do you think like was he kind of the. first guy that really.

based his comedy around southern. ideals and stuff. I think he was a really. well he sounded very Southern right but. I think he was probably just a good. Storyteller and he had a lot of that. like um the lead betters you know like. he named people in his neighborhood and. characters so when you were listening to. him you start he had this world was. being real yeah yeah yeah and so I think. I I that was fascinating to me because. I'm seriously because you talk a lot.

about people from your hometown so yeah. that was an influence or whatever yeah. no I think it probably had a lot to do. with it you know but it was funny. because yeah my best friend's dad he. said yeah you got to listen to this guy. you'll love him and he put him on I just. I couldn't believe it was a thing you. know. and then man that's awesome dude I. haven't really heard Jerry Clower in a. long time that I remember my childhood. been playing him too everybody knew his. bits right oh yeah it was really cool. yeah and you got and there's there's. video you see him performing he always.

wore this kind of like loud red outfit. right he was a big dude too right yeah. and he was a Dr he had a cocaine problem. for a while and he ended up being a. pastor I think towards the end of it I. didn't know that his wife still lives in. Mississippi but he passed not like that. long ago right 10 15 years ago or. something like that. yeah I'm not sure when he passed I would. say 10 yeah it sounded like about 10 or. 15 years ago yeah. um but one day I was getting out of my. car at the mall and this guy comes. running up and he goes hey man uh I've.

heard you say that my grandfather is. your favorite comedian and it was his. grandson here Jonathan Clower yeah here. here no way dude do you look like him. that's pretty cool is he a big dude I. mean he was young so it's hard to be. like I didn't want to [ __ ] you know. dude that's really cool Nashville. put him in old clothes and see how he. looked you know he didn't have like the. old like puffed up it would have been. crazy. he was born like that. um so how did you get over to so at that. point so you're starting to write you're.

in school. um how do you get over to Mississippi. State that's where you went right no I. didn't do that dude this is my biggest. and I understand like if I didn't move. up here when I did like my life would be. completely different but that's like my. biggest life regret is that both my. parents went to State we were a. Mississippi State family but I moved to. Nashville when I was 19. I went to one. semester at a junior college called East. Central Community College in Decatur. Mississippi but uh no I didn't go to. state I actually went to uh Middle. Tennessee down here in Murfreesboro.

and you got your degree from there yeah. I did yeah wow commercial songwriting. dang really yeah so you just went and. took a class on it yeah I mean it's like. a poor man's Belmont you know what I. mean yeah um like all the kids all the. belt the kids that didn't get into. Belmont which is like you know the big. music I mean it literally sits at the. end of Music Row down here. um but yeah I mean and the songwriting. class was like whatever and I've said. this before and I feel kind of. uncomfortable because I know there's. people watching it probably that go to. MTSU there but like when I was there it.

was like there was no filter so it was. like a bunch of people that just weren't. very good and so like it was like okay. today we're going to learn about writing. a verse and it's there's got to be. structure and each line has to rhyme. it's just stuff that you like most. people knew but there were a couple kids. in there that like got it you know what. I mean like you were you like you had to. play a song you wrote every week and. they'd critique it and talk about it and. this and that the other yeah and and. there was some people in there were. horrible and but there were some kids in. there that were really good but you. could tell like that was what I took. away was like the people that had it had.

it but you can't like learn it like you. can't in my opinion like I don't know if. you could like say man I owe all of my. songwriting success to the songwriting. class at MTSU because it's like. songwriters it's like any other form of. writing it's like everybody has that. weird internal voice and that's how they. write and stuff and I feel like people. are just born with that. yeah I think you can hone things yeah. and you can like fine-tune them you can. Whittle them right you know you could. put a little bit of you know you could. put something in a crust you know you. could put a icing on something yeah but.

you got to have something you gotta have. the the natural kind of thing I think. but I learned a lot about the industry. there like record deals and Publishing I. mean I learned a ton about all that. stuff and like even recording studio. stuff like I got all of that all of that. stuff from MTSU yeah and then the first. time you hear those things in business. it's not the first time you've ever. heard them you know so it's interesting. how like some people know I took a. comedy class right so I went to I was in. uh I was out in Los Angeles you know and.

everybody was just you know it was when. you first get out there that's a lot of. like kind of per like every. people like don't have agents and. managers will sign you but just because. they're damn pedophiles or something you. know it's like they'll try to get you. out to dinner and they they give you a. ride home and they're squeezing on your. leg or something you know yeah asking if. you got any leftovers on you or. something like you know just some slimy. [ __ ] what are you even talking about you. know I don't have any leftovers but it's. like yeah it's just a lot of pervs out.

there but um eventually I found you know. I said no to all that and then I got. into a comedy class and the best thing. about it was I thought I was probably in. my head I thought it was better than the. class maybe in a weird way or I didn't. but it made you at the end of the class. you had to get on stage after six you. know and then I realized as a class one. some people were better joke writers and. they were better like organ they're. keeping their stuff or I just came in. with a little bit of an attitude I think. but at the end you got on stage so how.

long was it how long do you have to go. for it was six weeks and it was probably. the actual performance oh three minutes. okay damn so they didn't give you you. had to like you had to give it. everything you got then oh yeah dude and. it was like and the first week like at. the end we're gonna do a three minute. format you're like I got that and then. like the day of I mean you're you know. you're losing it yeah you know people. are just damn you know. just losing it jumping off of really. small buildings not hurting themselves. but just you know yeah just practicing.

it because they can't handle it exactly. but. um it got yeah but then we got on stage. and that was the thing that was the. breaker it was like for you guys having. to have a song at the end of the week. it's like yeah that's the thing where. it's like okay. because if I don't get on stage then I. don't know if I ever get on stage can. you do it right can you actually do it. right yeah and once you get that first. can you do it once you get that first. like Open Mic or I'm gonna write a song. and play it in front of other people. right once you get through that first.

time. everything changes yeah because then you. have a real clear idea on if you're. capable of it or what part of it you're. capable of the most yeah and that's all. contingent on your audience too right in. a way because you don't know if you. killed it or if you did a good job. unless somebody tells you people that. you know you can trust that's a good. point but I think you get a feeling as. to okay maybe I loved writing it maybe I. didn't love being up there maybe I mean. you're just getting more information. yeah you know it's crazy that the the.

how much how little information you have. before that first step. almost with anything yeah that's really. true man you know it's like very true. especially for getting on any type of. stage it's like you just don't you know. yes he's gonna throw into the wolves in. that moment right yeah but but right. after that you're like all right you. know. yeah and then you get into like. immediately I I feel that like you can. immediately be like your brain starts. ticking on like what you could have done. better and like how to make it better. but you don't know that until you do it.

right yeah and it's so crazy the. difference between I didn't do it yet. until I just did it yeah you'll come off. be like and suddenly you'll be like next. time I'm gonna do it this way and you're. like what am I saying next time that. means I want to do it again it's like. just the little information that you get. from taking that first step dude that's. such a cool Snowball Effect too because. it just it gets better and better and. like you're constantly critiquing. yourself and telling yourself next time. which is manifesting that you're gonna. it's gonna get bigger and better and all. that yes true yeah that's interesting it.

is man. um when you write a song like so you. guys write you and Laney wrote wait in. the truck no so I so she she did not she. did not did not write it okay yes so you. write the song with other writers right. okay yep um. just it's like going to work and you. just you know go in a room and throw out. your ideas and sit around and write a. song now say you walk in a room right. and you see the other writers in there. is there sometimes you're like all right. I'm gonna put a certain ideas and.

sometimes I'm keeping some in totally oh. yeah oh dude like if you're this is like. if you have a like ball and ass badass. idea like I'll sit on that until I know. I'm in a room because if you throw it. out especially in Nashville like La it. can be a little greasier where like. people will take back ideas but you just. don't do that really in Nashville and. like like uh it's not his dog eat dog. let's just put it that way as it is in. L.A and. but like I'll wait until I'm with some. of my buddies or people that will.

completely grasp a cool idea so you know. you're gonna nail it because I've made. the mistake of throwing out a really. good title with some people that could. that just couldn't latch onto it as well. as maybe other people could and you just. kind of ruined the idea and then you. can't really write it again or you're an. [ __ ] right at least other people are. attached to it and that sort of thing. and you get then then that's when like. you'll you know then if you did write it. 10 years later then you got to add these. people because they were there when you. know and they're like well I said that. line and you used that in this song too. but yeah there's definitely times like.

waiting the truck's a perfect example so. Hunter Phelps is like one of my best. friends and I wrote that with him and. Jordan Schmidt who's also one of my best. friends I'm pointing that way because. Jordan lives right down the road okay. um and Hunter and I kind of came up with. that idea together and we knew Jordan. was a really incredible writer and that. that was the time to bring that idea out. and ride it with somebody definitely. that's wild man that's cool yeah. interesting because I guess in the. beginning you might go in and just put. all your eggs out there and the other.

two people one of them shows up hung. over one of them you know is pre you. know not prep could be I just found out. they're pregnant right yeah [ __ ]. ruined yeah their day is wrecked yeah. exactly. uh and then you're like damn man you. just don't get it to fruition yeah and. it dude it breaks my heart when I have a. great idea and you. because then you're just like. [ __ ] like that that that I mean really. if to get into the technical or the not. to be vain or not vain but materialistic.

but you're like I just missed out on. like two hundred thousand dollars. because I had a hit idea and I just. ruined it on on these people it happens. dude you just kind of beat yourself up. about it and like. this and that some people even go home. and completely rewrite the idea and make. it better and be like send it back to. the people you wrote it with and you're. like I like this you guys can be on the. song but I completely rewrote the song. or whatever does that happen sometimes. where somebody will write it to other. people are in the room and they get a. part of the credit and that's that. yeah the rule in Nashville is drop a.

word or say a word take a third you know. like. it doesn't matter if you're having a bad. day and that there's like. it always evens itself out because like. you go into a room with two other people. and one of the guys sits over there and. doesn't say a word he's still on the. song he still has a third of the song. like freaking boo Wordly over there yeah. right Bradley yeah like uh sitting over. there like [ __ ] yeah I'm just not. saying a damn word just staring up or. something but then there's times where. you might not be on your A-game and. somebody else two of the other guys are.

guys or girls are killing it and yeah. you know you it's just like a Nashville. rule I know in La like they have lawyers. they have people like sitting in on. rights like paying attention to who said. what and then they like get in and they. try to like negotiate who contributed. the most and that's like the percentage. they get that hasn't made it here yet I. hope it doesn't miss sounds stressful. ah it ruins everything La will ruin. anything. are you still out there do you still. haven't you still live out there at all. yeah I probably spent about almost three. I would say almost four months maybe all.

right out of the year out there because. I have to practice out there I can't. really practice comedy in Nashville yeah. so zany's is that the only spot here. yeah that's kind of surprising I mean. it's good for them I guess because they. have like uh they if I mean it's like. that until you until you you're bigger. than that right and then you do like the. rhyming or something right yeah. so we could do other places yeah it's. like but if I want to practice you know. like in LA you can probably do three. spots a night. is that like Comedy Store and stuff like. Improv Comedy Store there's a place.

called The Bourbon Room that's really. popping. um West Side comedy there's a I mean you. could do five in a night if you wanted. to but at a certain point just driving. around like perform you're not really. learning anything you know you just like. show up and and see the guy that runs. the thing and you're like y'all got a. spot for me or do you schedule an. advance no on Mondays usually putting. your avails ah so that I mean you can. someplace you could stop in and they'll. let you get up if you have a certain. level of I guess. he probably is a better term.

but I don't know that always feels. uncomfortable to me like I always say. you're crash in a party yeah a little. bit and it feels like it's not your you. know somebody else drove up there yeah. they might have a couple children they. might be expecting to get home I don't. want to wreck that guys yeah or you know. I don't want to have him get home 30. minutes later yeah it's you know that's. nice it's like just out of respect right. it's like showing up to somebody's show. and then somebody pointing you out and. then you get up there and play for an. hour and steal the show or something. right like if you want to do one so you. know but but but yeah I think yeah so.

that kind of thing is a little bit. uncomfortable kind of uh so I would. rather I like to and I like to know in. advance when I'm gonna have to go go to. work yeah you know because now it's it. is more like going to work. um is it interesting does that start to. feel like that for you like in the. beginning that. it was a lot more of like this is fun. and it's still fun yeah but one it once. it becomes your work it becomes your. work yeah yeah definitely I mean. man I would almost argue and say that.

the the more into it I get like the the. the more the years have gone by the the. more fun it feels and the less because. when you're if you just start out man. and you're like you've got a new brand. new single you're doing like radio tour. and I mean you're grinding so hard and. you're playing shitty shows for people. that don't you're either opening for. somebody and the crowd is not there for. you so they have no [ __ ] idea who you. are. so but then the more you're established. I feel like I mean it it still feels.

like work it's just a crazy job but it's. it's I think it's more fun the more like. you know success you have which I guess. that that makes you know that's obvious. but no it's not obvious really I don't. think. I think it's interesting because it's. like. yeah I don't know if I I guess there's. different ways to look at it or. different ways that it kind of happened. in the way you perceived it yeah. because I think some people would. say that it was more fun.

in those other moments yeah and I guess. in some ways it is more it's like. you don't know what's gonna happen yeah. that's true well that's true like it. there's so much left to wonder like. what's going to come of that you mean. right or what the other side of the coin. can look like a little yeah so I guess. maybe fun isn't the overall word that. we're kind of. looking at it's like it's all fun but. some of it's. thrilling more thrilling in a way or. yeah I don't know I mean I'm just trying.

to figure it out and today's one of. those days where I'm not figuring it out. that good you know but that's okay man. um. but yeah it definitely there's things. that are more. well there's more Intrigue I feel like. but I don't know because then you get. different opportunities you're like oh. God this is what this feels like you. know it's like yeah I think it's all it. kind of comes in like not waves but even. levels right like that's a good word you.

know because then you have a you have. like a big record and then then you're. kind of like new to a newer scene of. more of a higher level you know and and. then there's more wonder and all that. and then like you blow up again or have. another big moment and I don't know I. feel like it could be kind of tiered but. it's all relative it's all the same. situation but just at different levels. of success maybe I think that's a good. way to say it I remember uh going to you. guys's show at the. in Nashville Redstone at Bridgestone.

yeah and I remember seeing the uh arrows. on the flutter taped on the floor where. the where the artists go and go up and. like you know because it's dark back. there yeah yeah everything really dark. and I remember thinking oh man how cool. you know I've always wanted to be like. see what the rock star sees you know. like stage and all that kind of stuff. yeah it was just like and I have my own. backstage at shows and they're it's. different you know it's just with comedy. it's a lot different it's really subdued. it's just you're sitting back there yeah.

I was gonna say there's probably not. it's not all hustle and bustle because. there's not it's like the production's. not like a country like or any like a. concert oh there's nobody in a damn bum. a vape off of you yeah yeah yeah like. you and your do you have a tour manager. yeah you got a tour manager a couple. other comedians yeah yeah and it's wild. it's like quiet and more chill it's dead. quiet yeah that's kind of crazy yeah and. so so it's totally different to be back. there in you guys environment is like. people walking around oh yeah especially. like you call it like a Nashville show. it's like [ __ ] chaos back there it's. just but in the best way like there's.

it's just exciting and there's people. everywhere and like other country stars. and [ __ ] walking around yeah it was cool. that's when Ronnie Dunn came out and. played yes that's right God he can I. didn't realize he could oh dude he's a. legend I mean I knew he could sing but I. just didn't know it was like that yeah. uh dude he's a people a lot of people. say that he's like the his the most the. most or one of the most iconic voices in. the country he's a damn wind instrument. dude he's like damn my God this [ __ ]. man flew hang him outside on your.

grandmother's porch yeah. that's what the damn birds eat off of. him did you imagine dude a [ __ ]. Ronnie Dunn wind chime dude just every. time it was like every time it's. actually a great idea that'd be [ __ ]. awesome if we can make it so that when. the wind went through it it sounded just. like him yeah and then have three notes. in harmony you know like wind chimes do. yeah. you know I'm trying to keep it I'm. trying to stay wigged up baby keep that. hair going and keep it tight. that's what keeps helps me do that's.

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over here and she's like oh I love him. because I forgot y'all had met there. y'all met right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. I got to meet your folks there and um. and who will yeah like oh Baker Mayfield. was there yeah he was there and like. yeah that was so random dude it was. random Jason Jason worth uh uh um uh I. think it's Jason worth baseball player. there was a bunch of like athletes there. it was yeah it was a bizarre group of. people man it was an interesting group. that was fun though Ernest was on yep. yeah that was great man was that there.

was three nights one of them I came the. first night Thursday night to me I. thought Thursday and Friday were the. best it was Thursday night St Patty's or. was that Friday I can't remember one of. them was St Patty's Day and I just. remember how drunk the whole crowd was. it was like I could see it from all the. way at the top like people were falling. over and stuff oh that might have been. sad I don't oh yeah I don't think when I. left I remember seeing people doing St. Patty's stuff it might have been it. might have been might have been Saturday. yeah.

um. is there a night that you guys like to. is there a night when you feel like the. shows are better a day is there a show. that give me that day and time okay that. a country for show or that that a. performance a musical performance is the. best. Friday nights. usually in the summer. because Thursday night a lot of people. have to go to work so they're there and. they'll stay up late but they're not. gonna they're not gonna party and then. Saturday night a lot of people have to. go to church especially in the country. crowd Friday night it's like I just got.

off of work and I don't have [ __ ] to do. tomorrow that's like that's the one. every time even if you do you can feel. it especially when you if you do three. nights at one venue uh-huh you you can. see the difference between Thursday. Friday and Saturday it's pretty crazy. and the Saturday crowd's like more tired. and hungover you know what I mean. they're all good but like Friday night. nothing ever beats Friday night it's the. best damn yeah because for comedy it's. different Friday night is the toughest. night really why do you think so I think. it's because people have been working.

they get off and I don't think they want. to be kind of still in a space where. they have to sit and kind of listen and. pay attention yes I think their. attention is a little burned out they. either want to [ __ ] rip their dick oh. you know or not they're somebody's there. yeah yeah yeah they want to rip a tit. off or whatever and get a damn Michelob. in them or they want to. um. or they want to uh chill out yeah but I. don't think they want that middle ground. well I wonder why that's. but it's notoriously the word Steve.

Martin quit performing touring on Friday. nights because that totally I think but. because if you go out and you're just. waiting Thursday to Saturday I think. it's just kind of a low but he said he. quit performing because Friday night. really it's that big of it's that big of. a difference. I wonder why I mean I guess. I don't know it's crazy because I guess. you don't have to pay attention at a. concert this is super rt4 I guess you. feel music more than like you actually. pay attention to yeah you know so maybe.

that's a little bit more of a release. than feeling like having to sit and. focus on something maybe I don't know. yeah I don't know it's interesting that. is interesting sometimes it stands up I. think in the in the end it gets it gets. in your head that Friday's gonna be you. know might not be but then I don't know. half the time I feel like I can't really. tell the difference so dude what other. if you take Louisiana out of the. equation what's your favorite City to. play in oh dang dude anywhere in Texas. is good really Texas is [ __ ] good. dude but then Portland some of my. biggest Crowds Are like Portland.

um Australia oh dude I'm going in like a. month I've never been oh bro I'm so. excited it's like you know they started. it it was all criminals dude yeah they. sent them down there that's right from. from like the UK area right so it's. awesome yeah dude you know that Georgia. our Georgia uh was the same thing thing. really was like Australia for Americans. and they would send uh and you can fact. check me but I'm because I could be. wrong but I'm pretty sure it was a place.

where if you went bankrupt or committed. a crime they would send you down to. Georgia because Georgia is one of the I. think one of the 13 colonies it's one of. the original if not it's like it was. very early and they would send it down. there to uh send you down there to like. restart down there from jail to Georgia. let's see that hey I think you had it. there bub. zoom in on that if you don't mind please. 18th century Georgia was really just. King George's penal colony right can you.

zoom in a little bit more. um. as conceived by its founder James. Oglethorpe and his trustees in London. Georgia was expressly built on the. theory of work release. um and it's. they convinced King George. the overcrowding in prisons. uh it's fair to say that scores are. recently released. people of the king's House of.

Corrections were among the colonists huh. there you go damn is that crazy. well the years. this might go for the whole STC because. Louisiana they said it if um it was like. criminals and prostitutes from France. really it settled like in New Orleans no. in France or like if you want to marry a. prostitute we'll give you oh [ __ ] land. in Louisiana. I just tweeted something about it or no. I saw I just saw something the original.

colony of Georgia for example was. founded by James Oglethorpe who. originally intended to use prisoners. taken largely from debtors prisons. creating a debtors colony where the. prisoners could learn trades and work. off their debts wow dude isn't that. crazy she had people over there that. were just work doing a trade to work off. a debt that was in England that's crazy. yeah isn't that wild. but then the craziest part would be. after the American Revolution or after. we've won the beat England and I guess. right in the war that those people were. just like oh I don't know anybody. anything yeah.

so then they were just free that's. correct they were just there. huh that seems like Georgia a little. yeah dude. um what is something I was thinking. about this what is something that. uh had you met Laney before you guys got. together to make that song oh yeah I I. uh so that tour I was talking about. Morgan brought me on that tour I said. 800 to 2000 people Laney was first of. three uh just acoustic so she was the.

acoustic uh opener and then I was second. and Morgan was third and so I met her. then we did that was like. 39 shows or something so we she was and. that's I really got to know her then she. was on the first half of that tour and. got to really know her then yeah she's I. love she's like a sister to me dude she. is salt of the earth yeah oh she seems. really really I mean she's interesting. beautiful exciting just authentic man. just a real deal yeah she just yeah she.

sounds like. I mean you just want to climb down her. throat and just damn just being just. ready to live in it yeah yeah just get a. damn you know get you a little oven or. something in there and just stay in. there yeah make sure triple chairs yeah. dude yeah it's like she just she sounds. like a home yeah that's a good way to. put it wow. um. and she sounds yeah she just sounds. really this is so powerful I really. enjoy getting to spend time with her I. was thinking what is something that.

people wait in the truck for. um. their sonic order. okay definitely Sonic uh they're like. they're drug dealers show up maybe okay. drugs and Sonic yeah. um. oh their wife anywhere their wife oh. yeah especially if you're like if you're. like the kind that's like I'm gonna go. wait in the truck sorry you know and. they're honking kind of doing which was. every dad I feel like oh yeah when we. were like and even like I mean you're.

young and people when we were growing up. it was like every day I was like I'm. gonna wait yeah I'm gonna be out of here. I heard a story about George Jones and. he like got tired of waiting on. um his current the wife that he died. with I can't remember her name uh I. should know that but at that one time. he he wouldn't wait on her so he went. and sat in the car and laid on the horn. and she came out in her underwear and. got in the car and he was so fixated on. going wherever they were going he drove. all the way down the road and didn't. realize she was she was pulling one on. him because she was like well [ __ ] you.

then well I'll go wherever we're going. I'm going in my underwear if you can't. wait and even went like five miles down. the road until he realized that she was. in her underwear and turned around and. came back. yeah that was always a thing I'm gonna. wait in the truck and you would just see. dads out there just. shaking their head what about like. you're like a little brother when your. Big Brother's like at baseball practice. you know like that type of deal oh yeah. I'm a Sit you would see that brother's. always just leaning yeah open on the. open window yep and then somebody would. come up and just like bang on the window.

scare the [ __ ] out of them yeah yeah. um what else do people wait for yeah. drugs for sure dude I uh waiting for. drugs is always scary it was always like. dude always always I always had to wait. what was the [ __ ] deal why don't drug. yeah drug dealers are not punctual. no they're not dude even like weed. before weed was legal like I would have. panic attacks dude like he'd be like. show up here at three and I'd be like. all right cool and then and then like. dude it would be like 305 and I'm like. but you're like I don't want to piss my.

drug dealer you know what I mean like I. don't want to piss my guy off but you're. like where the [ __ ] are you at did you. get arrested like. are they are like in my mind it was like. okay the cops got him and they're like. all right go do the drug deal so we can. bust the guy like I have all right you. know dude I remember this guy I told us. one time he's like yeah meet me at this. time so we get there it's like a huge in. the middle of this Kmart parking lot. right so we're like we'll [ __ ] pick. up Corners they're behind it it was just. the worst idea right so we so we don't.

we're like I remember we drove around. like just around the middle for a while. like I guess we might want to go in it. was like if we went into the middle we. were in trouble but it was like we were. just scoping I thought it'd be less. suspicious to just make like a bunch of. laps around the parking lot oh dude the. worst yeah I remember one time we got. some weed to sell it right and it was. like we're so excited right we get this. weed and the second we got it we're like. oh we're going to [ __ ] jail dude. right so we're so scared we're in the.

driveway we finally ended up just giving. the [ __ ] away to a guy down the street. dude and just ended up working the uh. the payment off. was it like a cop or was it like was it. like teenager a lot of like an ounce or. something no no I would say it was. probably yeah maybe a QP I think yeah. damn good hahaha damn dude gave it away. that was a good day for the guy you gave.

it to though. and maybe he saw that in us maybe said. oh these fear babies over here and we'll. [ __ ] get that yeah he might have was. it a stranger or somebody you knew. somebody we knew okay. it was fun though. um. all right so you get in attuned you get. out here yeah how do you get that first. hit you think dude it's I have it's a. crazy story I got my first publishing. deal. and what is a publishing deal for people. that don't know so it's so if you're. just a songwriter in Nashville you sign.

there's time if you drive up down music. Road there's like 50 or probably more. publishing companies and they sign. songwriters and the the point is they. pay songwriters a salary to write for. that company and they also they have. people that work for the company that. schedule the rights for the songwriter. they pitch the songs to artists that the. songwriters turn in you know that type. of thing oh so you get a deal with a. Publishing House. or a publishing company company and then.

you're kind of like one of their batters. in their box yeah exactly wow yeah and. and like you know. a lot of times. I've seen like you know [ __ ] Joe Blow. nobody signs with a pub deal and then he. blows up or signs with the publisher. company and then he blows up and has a. bunch of hits as a rider well then. suddenly that publishing company is on. the map because people are going to want. to sign there so they can write with. this dude you know what I mean and. that's how people that's how big loud. you know big loud started as a. Publishing Company Craig Wiseman signed.

like four writers and it was like Rodney. Clawson Sarah Buxton Chris Tompkins uh. and a few others and they all blew the. [ __ ] up and they and so that just boomed. big loud and then and with along with. Craig who also was a big hit Rider and. so then they were able to really have a. legit publishing company and sign a. bunch of writers because people wanted. to be in that camp because they were the. guys writing all the hits okay so then. how does a big loud get guys like Morgan. and you and Ernest so once they you know.

so they're doing well people know their. name right as just as a publishing. company and so then Craig Wiseman and uh. I think at that point Seth England and. them decided to start a record label uh. and so that's you know when they started. big loud records and then they. said well let's go find an artist to try. to develop and then they went and found. Chris Lane and they had a hit on Chris. Lane and FGL was in that because because. they signed FGL to a publishing company.

but they also managed them but but their. record label is a big machine but they. had Chris Lane and then you know they. broke Chris Lane and then they went and. they've got. um. I don't even know who like the next. would have been but anyway then they. found they found Morgan and they just. like catch word like Morgan was on The. Voice and then he had you know worried. had gotten out that he had been coming. into town and doing stuff and so they. were like let's let's have a meeting. with this Morgan Wallen kid and they. reach out to Morgan and Morgan plays. them a couple songs. they're like we like your voice seem. like you know we could work well with.

you they sign into a recording you know. it's just constantly growing in that. whole deal and then guys like you at. that point are friends already with. Morgan you see that he's there and that. excites you guys yeah yeah I mean like I. met Morgan part of it yeah yes exactly. and and like uh and especially like uh. Florida Georgia Line and those guys like. they were all in that big loud camp and. so that draws people into that and but. uh I met Morgan when the way I talk was. like at I think it died at like number. 30 which is crazy to think about because.

it's such a still like a big hit for him. but it it died at like number 30 at. radio and I wrote with him around that. time and uh for the first time and I was. just a big fan of that song and his. voice and I was just like this kid's. really good and so he came over to the. house but I've lived in an apartment. over here and and we wrote and hit it. instantly hit it off and you know the. rest is history bam but with my I so my. publisher to this day his name is Dennis. McCoskey. and he grew up in Philadelphia.

Pennsylvania but his mom oh really from. Philadelphia Mississippi. and his mom is my grandfather's. aunt. so and I knew and so Dennis in the 80s. lived in L.A he's not grandfather's Aunt. so so Dennis and my grandfather are. first cousins they're they shared moms. sisters you know what I mean and when. Dennis Dennis in the 80s was a big hit. songwriter in LA and his claim to fame. he's done a bunch of other amazing. things but his biggest claim to fame is.

he wrote maniac. I'm in the 80s exactly yeah and. so growing up I knew I had this cool. cousin that was like a songwriter but I. didn't know like I knew he lived in. Nashville at this point but I didn't. know and he's an older guy he's like. late 60s maybe early 70s and um. so I was in college and I was writing. songs videoing them on my webcam dude. and putting them on like YouTube and. [ __ ] and then sharing them over but dude. yeah right I know right uh and he wrote.

on my Facebook wall and what my Facebook. wall dude and was like I like you seem. like you're doing good like come by the. house with a bigger pervert Yeah Dude. dude that was that's like back then this. was [ __ ] this was like but if a man. writes on your Facebook wall you seem. like you're doing good come by the house. sometime to anybody that didn't know the. situation I could see how that would be. yes yeah. he signed me and then I mean well he it. took like years but but it was a cool. thing because like if it was a family.

thing but I didn't really know him and. then he reached out and so we've now and. now he and I are very close so but it. felt like it was supposed to happen when. some of those other pieces are kind of. built into the background in the Stars. especially when it's family stuff yeah. you kind of put those pieces together. yeah. um what about uh. what about so tell me a little bit more. about that publishing house so how does. that work so people get some writers get. signed to a publishing house right they. start writing yeah and then they're on. salary yeah but if one of them does well.

and creates a song then they start to. make money from the song yeah but only. these days only if the song uh gets. played on the radio. um so. you have what's called mechanical. royalties. and that is royalties that are paid to. the song If it sells copies so like for. instance like on Morgan's last record. the big record that created a lot of. mechanical royalties because it sold.

really well right so but but when you. sign your first publishing deal most. first publishing deals called a baby. deal. uh. you you as a rider you don't get control. of your mechanical royalties that goes. to the publisher and the publishing. company oh wow and it's just something. that's been around for a long time so so. even if you had a song that blew up on. Tick Tock or that sold or streamed like. crazy on Apple music or Spotify or. whatever. um you wouldn't see any of that money.

the only way that young songwriters. really make money because most of their. salaries are like if you sign up first. publishing deal it's like 40 Grand. that's that's really good like you're. doing really good so it it really for a. year for usually they're like four four. years three or four yeah so 40 Grand. over three or four years no oh sorry yes. it's 40 Grand a year for the term is. like three or four years got it but you. only make money if if you have a hit on. the radio so like. anything especially for a young Rider.

top 20 and better is you'll make a. life-changing amount of money right you. know what I mean like is that the one. you were talking about early you can. make a couple hundred thousand dollars. and number one you will wow depending on. how many riders because if it's split. you know if it's a six way you're gonna. make less you're gonna make half of what. you'd make if it was a three-way and. that kind of thing but um. but uh yeah so the radio pays out a lot. of money and that's where that's where. songwriters get paid and that's through. Pros which is paid.

wait what's it what does it stand for. paid royalty organization. is that right yeah I think so and and. they they collect money from the radio. stations and then they in return pay the. writers for having hits on the radio. ah it was tricky man it's hard to get a. song on the radio like it's it's a it's. so hard it's I worked well you know one. of my jobs that I had I was a tour. manager for uh Josh Kelly I don't know. if I ever told you that or not really. yeah Georgia Clay uh just like that.

George and Clay yeah was it that time. baby dude you're amazing yeah yeah oh. Josh's man I didn't know that you tm'd. him yeah it did when was that we went. around the whole country dude we would. go to all the radio stations and I would. go in in the morning and be like. just can't leave yeah you know yeah and. get the coffee and the donuts and you. know get people fired up and stuff and. Josh would come in with his get to you. paint a picture on the wall yeah man it.

was awesome whoa this was I don't know. this is probably 17 years ago maybe or. something like that oh wow but we went. around. we went to I think every radio station I. mean we went to a lot of the bigger. radio stations that radio tour game man. so I didn't realize until you were. saying that I kind of forgot about it. but yeah yeah we would go in and you try. and agrees not grease these people you. wanted to get them excited about an. artist yeah of course you know yeah and. they see so many of them that like what. can you do you know like let's yeah. tomorrow you know Jason Mraz is bringing.

crab legs. exactly dude yeah dude man dude it's. it's hard man just sit in a room and. they're just they're looking at you like. yeah what are you doing here you know I. did not know that though that's crazy. yeah Josh Kelly is one of the most. talented guys out there and. yeah I just feel I feel grateful I got. to be just even a little bitty part of. his career that was fun man it was. interesting but that's why I learned. about kind of and that's when radio was.

still even more it was a bigger deal. yeah 20 15 years ago yeah now they've. all a lot of them have been kind of. Consolidated now yeah I mean streaming. is just streaming is like. it's taking over a lot of that market. for sure yeah. what was I thinking about uh. did I sorry do you see that thing with. the governor. the um Tennessee yeah I don't I'm not. sure it was like. the governor of Tennessee.

um. brought crab legs. no this Tennessee governor of peers have. dressed and oh there remember did you. see this thing you're trying to make it. so in Tennessee you couldn't. they don't want people performing get. into the article man if you don't mind. criminalizing drag performances in. public. yeah my dad he recently passed Bill. criminalizing drag performances in. public and in front of children so they. want to stop by guess like drag perform.

they don't want performances that could. influence I guess a child's sexuality. maybe or. um but then this is the governor right. and they found a picture of him in a. powder puff oh no way and so that's what. they're saying well they say look here. you are you dragging out oh boy you know. so they found this a picture of him in. high school man but it looks like. they're gonna try to pass this law. which is kind of wild you know yeah I. mean let's just let people do what they.

want well I think it's like it almost. seems like it's more of a parent's thing. like if you're taking your child to. something yeah where where would you. where are you going to be that your. child's gonna see a drag show right. without the parent gun like a child. child yeah you know without the parent. going dude I remember in we went to like. a prom or something dance and they had. this restaurant in the French Quarter. New Orleans and it was uh. it was all drag queens in there yeah and. dude they kept getting like they were.

getting I'm all of us I think we're. underage probably but we're in there. with fake IDs you know it's like a. teenager yeah like probably yeah we were. under 21 anyway so it could have been. caught I think it was High School. and all the like it was like the male. waiters or whatever they kept getting. people liquored up and then they would. take like this one dude Ryan I remember. they kept taking him back like into the. kitchen and I'm like damn I don't know. what's happening with Ryan bruh like. they came how long was he would they do. it like more than once oh yeah and at.

first he was like I don't want to go by. the third time he's like I'll be right. back guys like you could tell they were. like kind of like picking off young. birds who were kind of Milling around. damn really you think they had any. cocaine back there or something oh God I. hope they did I wouldn't want to get. molested if I didn't have something in. me yeah no kidding I don't feel like. Anyway [ __ ] I mean I hope not I uh I. [ __ ] love New Orleans man yeah yeah. it's like. Key West is like my number one. favorite place to go you know visit but.

New Orleans is number two I [ __ ] love. it so much man dude Nick Swardson do you. know who that is yeah he spent almost a. million dollars during code he stayed at. a hotel in Key West he went there oh. really and I was like I'm just gonna. stay I wonder which one it was. have you ever been down there. I have been one time I don't remember it. real well man what's it like it's it's. like a hot like a beachier safer New. Orleans it's very very similar man I. went for my bachelor party it was so fun.

oh my God it was so fun it's just. man I don't even know dude I that the. island time thing is such a thing down. there like nobody is worried about [ __ ]. and like you know. it depends on what you're into but. there's like the food it's just like New. Orleans man the food there's this little. hole in the walls that are like super. authentic and like I could see that. because you're in kind of like that it's. kind of got that Caribbean Vibe huh yeah. I mean [ __ ] you're you are 90 miles from. Cuba oh wow if they built a bridge you. could you could get there in like less. an hour and a half dang.

I love it but at New Orleans man the. food. and there's something there's no other. City to me. with the culture. that New Orleans has there's it's such a. fine-tuned like distinct culture and and. like every city has this thing and like. you know the Northeast and Boston is. seafood and all that but there's just. something so [ __ ] dope about New. Orleans yeah. yeah I guess you know I always I always. noticed that growing up I went to like. San Francisco I thought that was a.

really exceptional City very unique. right yeah and um I remember thinking. Charleston was kind of cool Charleston. had a job of its own definitely it was a. kind of an Old South but still pretty. neat Chicago New York City and then I. was like New Orleans because for a while. I was like New Orleans man but then I. went around a lot of American I'm like. oh wow it's really unique because you. were kind of like kind of a cut like uh. you took it for granted in a certain way. yeah you're used to it yeah but then you. go around you're like dang bro New.

Orleans is something yeah do you like. New York. I do I think there's some energy about. it I don't think I like some of the I. don't like the. like the overtly liberal [ __ ] A lot of. it yeah you know if I'm real you know. where it's like ridiculous you know. where it's like they're uh wearing masks. to the end of time like the same kind of. stuff that happens in La yeah you know. for that either there's something about. it that's cool though right like oh yeah. there's something about it that it's the.

energy that's like right no other city. has that they could build this that I. remember the first time I got out of New. York in a taxi and I was like what yeah. it looks like it's I love every time I. think I can't remember if it's JFK. LaGuardia but there's one where you can. see like a really stretched out view of. Manhattan and it's just like. so it's like breathtaking in this weird. way like there's so many [ __ ]. buildings and [ __ ] yeah it's crazy I. love it yeah it blew my mind man did you. guys tour uh internationally yet no. we're doing we're flying to Australia on.

like March. 16th Wow first time I'm so excited man. we're flying from uh uh San Francisco. too which is or San Francisco I can't. remember but uh so it's that shorter. flight it's not like I've heard there's. like a Dallas one in like a New York one. and that's like 20 hours yeah dude I'm. so stoked it's nice though dude I like. being up in the air I like if you get. yeah if you get the good if you get the. bougie like the the Pod or whatever.

sometimes yeah I think I got that one. time I don't know where I was going oh. you getting that [ __ ] you're like let's. stay up here oh yeah. you start getting angry yeah yeah the. second you get off people aren't serving. you and [ __ ] anymore dude what's. Australia like though if you had to if. you had to compare it to anything or. describe it a lot of well they don't. have a lot of religion over there really. yeah and it's a lot of dangerous animals. dude if somebody's like hey look at this. animal yeah you know where I'm from if. somebody's like look at this animal it's.

usually some type of somebody who's. trying to flash that weiner on you you. know like Sling Blade situation yeah. it's like hey you want to come see this. animal and it's just a wiener you know. with like little cat ears on or. something yeah yeah some guys like got. little in a parking lot little mouse. ears on his penis you know you're like. I'll pet it but I ain't feeding the. cheese you know what I'm saying bruh but. it's like over there it's like you know. God put nine of the most dangerous. animals ever in New York can you look it. up no in Australia I know the box.

jellyfish right that's one oh they're. all bad I mean I hate to say it but it's. crazy because they put all the prisoners. in Australia and then God put all the. pretty much the most criminal animals in. Australia yeah it's kind of wild right. very wild dude yep you got box jellyfish. called the sea wasp also oh God look at. that thing so I've heard the taipan. snake it's like you you live like 15. minutes or some crazy [ __ ] yeah. saltwater crocodile salties.

that blue ringed octopus I saw a tick. tock of this kid that picked one up and. didn't know it was an octopus and then. he just like casually let it back in the. water and they were like damn if that. thing would have what does the octopus. do bite what I don't know probably just. I feel like just how does it don't. octopus have a beak or something don't. they have a little like that's a good. question can you looked at it yeah go go. to that blue octopus and let's see what. it says and can you zoom into your mind. just overall note. Dear God.

they look absolutely okay they look. absolutely amazing in a fish tank but. don't touch these ball sized creatures. bite and are highly venomous this thing. is often fatal the body shuts down. becomes increasingly paralyzed and. breathing is no longer Possible Oh damn. dude there's no known that's a scariest. part no known anti-venoms so if you're. asking people for help they can be like. oh I can't help you and they mean it so. does that mean that you die if you get. bit by one oh there it is look at that. oh damn kite chitin.

oh yeah okay there you go. man it kind of looks like a the math of. it looks like a vag a little bit oh yeah. definitely and that's probably what gets. you into it. some perv over there by the beach being. like hold on son I'm gonna go meet up. with this little thing you think do you. think that people in Australia you think. somebody like if they wanted to if they. wanted to like end it all would just go. find something like that like.

now that is kind of nice it's almost. like God saying hey you don't need to. hang yourself or you know you don't have. to get all Brooks was crazy you know. yeah you can go the way you know the. natural way I've always said I wanted to. if I if I was gonna die I like an ant. like an animal killing me it would be. kind of kind of honorable I think. yeah you feel like it's almost like. turnabout is you know it's like it's. their turn to get one yeah yeah exactly.

I don't know I've always thought that. that they were here first kind of thing. and and uh I don't know I just think. it'd be it'd be terrifying but like bit. by a rattlesnake or like. even a mountain lion or something it. would be terrifying but for yeah or just. nature dude like letting nature get you. yeah like some naked and afraid [ __ ]. dude yeah yeah back in the day like you. could you know how Jack Daniel died the. whiskey guy he [ __ ] got mad because. he couldn't open a safe or something and. he kicked it and his toe got infected.

and it went up through his body and they. chopped his leg off and it kept going. and he died because he kicked a safe or. a heater or something but like back in. the day man like if you if you fail and. like cut yourself like you could that. was you could you could die yeah like. instantly oh dude imagine how like. that's what kind of it's like we're just. living these long like crazy we don't. even yeah that's why I think it's one of. the reasons why we have so much mental. health because we don't have it at a. certain point you don't have anything.

else to do but have problems you know. it's like we've just because nature is. you're not yeah the same things aren't. happening people now they even have like. um you should be stung by a bee yeah you. were dying you know you fell off a light. you fell off like a third step three or. four yeah died yeah because you couldn't. and also. like tuberculosis. what happened to that what is it. everybody everybody died from. tuberculosis back then God it's. heartbreaking do you think that like.

I wonder if like tuberculosis was just. like cancer before they knew it was. cancer uh there you go probably. are the people like is there a VA is. there a vaccine for it tuberculosis is a. disease caused by germ germs sorry that. are spread from person to person through. the air oh dude this was yeah. can people still get it though or is it. affects the lungs it also affect other. parts of the body such as the brain oh. God. kidneys are the spine imagine that it.

literally sounds like covet dude yeah it. sounds definitely has very early coveted. Vibes but do you think uh. over to me and people get infected with. tuberculosis every year was there excuse. me in India or something dude yeah I. can't imagine I never met anybody with. it have you no I thought I mean no. absolutely but dude when I was growing. up people would have like you'd have a. dude who like if he got hit by something. that's just how he was I like polio or. something oh yeah you got a dude got hit.

right like a baseball bat in the side. real hard and he was just like that from. now on dude you had a dude if somebody. broke their collarbone they're just. their shirt never fit right you know. just that's who they were like everybody. has spaced out teeth had a bad eye you'd. always see him at church and you finally. asked like your parents and they'd be. like well when he was a kid yeah and. then like yeah and the truth would come. out yeah but now everybody's all patched. up oh yeah for sure it's different my. scoliosis like people that was that's.

such a common thing back in the day. people were just they checked at school. yeah. yeah did they do checks at your school. they would call and you'd have to bend. over and that lady would do both of them. yeah I do remember that on your back. that's right damn dude I'd forgot all. about that. they would check that damn spine boy. check that Railroad on you. school nurse dude god dude oh I we had. for one for a while we had a hot one. then we had a man dude man nurse I used.

to know God. nobody got sick for like two years dude. all the guy like just scared to death. dudes were like dude I don't want to get. sick I think they were just scared of. you know just you know it just wasn't. they didn't know what a lot of people. had never seen a man nurse yeah I didn't. think I didn't think it was allowed I. thought it was like illegal or they I. honestly I truly I thought it was like. you were gay yeah like actually gay if. you were a man right it was just part of. the practice and I think early on it. probably was you know I think now it's a. little bit more Universal yeah because. you see a lot of Latino male nurses that.

have like families and stuff but I think. in the beginning yeah it was like. it was like I think a lot of men used to. want to have kind of women jobs kind of. you know I think if they were I think a. lot of gay men because I think here's. probably why because they probably. weren't accepted in a lot of mail jobs. yeah I'm sure you know people made them. feel like they weren't capable like a. maid a mate like a man-made oh man-made. damn or a train conductor there's no way. if some guy was like yeah they're gonna.

let him run the tray even though he. would have loved it dude yeah oh bro All. Aboard bro bro I think they should only. have gay male train conductors I feel. like could you imagine dude why would. they have anybody who wants a like a. some straight dude being like bro you. want that [ __ ] party boy up 100 you. know how it's got like the little rail. that you know and they just do a little. grind on it and they pop up in there and. [ __ ] go to town dude that's what I. want man damn. um does it feel weird to consider that.

you've made you know this term that. you've made it it's a weird feeling. isn't it yeah I think so. man I don't know I don't I've never. I don't I don't see maybe there will. come a time but like I I always feel. like. there's a Next Step a Next Level you. know what I mean yeah I don't know. you're in the midst of something yeah. right like something is next always like. I'm still doing it yeah maybe I haven't. written my best song yet or yeah no I do.

100 believe that wow I always feel like. that for sure yeah. because I don't know I think can content. can can kill somebody's career I've seen. it happen to friends and stuff you know. like. that that's definitely a thing but also. you know want to learn how to. slow down or like. I don't know feel like that you know I. appreciate moments but like really try. to take time to be like man I have done. really well and like technically have. made it you know to a lot of people and.

because there are times where I'm I'm. constantly worried about the next year. and man we're gonna be in arenas next. year and the year after that we're gonna. do this and that and you know and kind. of constantly worrying about that but. it's good to check yourself for sure. what um you started a family yeah you. know that's one thing I think that kind. of starts to put down something that's. real to you yeah and you seem to really. love your wife you know I do man you. seem to really love being around her you. know I notice that when I'm around you. you guys have such a nice connection. it's admirable thank you man. um how did that kind of come to play man.

did you know she was the there was no. doubt when you matter how did it go down. first night I met her man dang it was us. boy it dude I I'm again my buddy Hunter. Phelps this is so cheesy but we I we. hung out I met her at uh I was playing. drums for Hunter opening for a guy named. Jamison Rogers at Ole Miss and uh I met. her there she went to Ole Miss she did. oh damn this girl she's from San Diego. but went on this oh okay okay Best of.

Both Worlds yeah it's interesting and we. met and then like she took us like went. to her apartment hung out with her. friends and then she took us. I always remember she drove us barefoot. to Huddle House oh God we ate huddle. houses she went she went to Huddle House. Barefoot oh which is big on its own oh. that's tuberculosis yeah exactly that's. ringworm [ __ ] [ __ ] and uh and then. like yeah if you like it put a ringworm. on. it dude exactly I'm gonna put that in a.

country song I'll give you a credit dude. it won't be a good song. um but anyway and I knew that after that. night man I was like I gotta keep in. touch with this girl because ah so that. was out to keep in touch with her. there's something about her yep and I. never really I never had that with. anybody and then we went she and I we. dated we'd been dating for. like uh three or four months not long. and then when she got out of college I. she and I took a road trip from here to. San Diego to meet her parents already I.

mean we just it was a one it just was we. just knew and so we drove all the way. across the country it's my favorite. memory I've ever had and so it's hers. too it was just everything like we were. like newly like in love and [ __ ] and but. also seeing the you know the driving. across the whole country together and. like just that whole experience but we. would hit like a middle of nowhere spot. but then go to Vegas the next night it. was unbelievable and uh but anyway uh. there was never never a doubt dude it. was awesome damn yeah and did you.

where'd you propose at did you do. something I did at the venue I met her. at a specific spot in this venue called. the lyric in Oxford okay I proposed I. faked a uh she she knew she she tells me. she don't she [ __ ] knew but I faked. that I had a private show at this venue. uh on a Sunday after our Atlanta show on. Saturday and so she rode with me to the. private show and uh we go in the venue. and then like it had been like laid out. with flowers and so I did it like at the.

exact spot that we we met it's pretty. cool man that's romantic yeah dude does. it feel hard to keep up with that amount. of romance because some dudes are like. oh dude I'm starting with low level. romance dude so you always have. something to work up to yeah yeah. there's there's no we're moving up you. know man I try dude yeah I. I don't know if I don't know if I would. consider myself romantic but uh I try. and it's tough man I think in any. relationship but it's just always some.

so much [ __ ] going on and like just try. to take a second every couple weeks and. like think of something you know to do. like out of the ordinary just and I. could be anything it could be like a. [ __ ] Chick-fil-A gift card to leave. you know and be like go get some lunch. it could be anything but I just try to. do something just to keep it to keep it. you know keep it interesting or whatever. you had to be thinking of somebody else. you know yeah because that's the thing I. think in the end we want to be thought. of you know people want to be damn. thought yeah you know yep and that's you.

know like the Love Languages thing you. ever heard of that oh yeah yeah hers is. like definitely. um. like uh acts of service and like quality. time and stuff like that you know what I. mean and I've learned that you know. throughout us dating and being married. but I always just try to think of that. like even if it's just like one little. thing or whatever you know yeah it's. hard though man like. this life you know it's just busy busy. busy and I come home and I'm tired and. stuff but I'm she's she deserves it so. like I really try to do as much as I can.

to you know out of the ordinary for. yeah I just notice that when I'm running. it's like you really put her on a you. know you you there's no doubt that you. I feel like when I'm around you and. she's around that you. present her proudly yes I do and there's. something about that that is uh. it's like oh I I would like to be like. that yeah sure man um you know in love. with with a lady so it's easy to do when. you find the one that that you want to. do it with though like I'm never I'd. never be ashamed of was there a close.

call before that was there any. we went through a little a little where. you got married though where you almost. got married before. with me and another another no that was. it nah I had like one other maybe maybe. two in the past like serious girlfriends. like I would say. like I wouldn't count as serious. girlfriend until after you're like 18. you know what I mean so I had like maybe. two over the course of. eight years before I met her but nah not. like never really considered like going.

and buying a ring or anything like that. yeah just it was just like a year your. relationship or something like that. she was the only one for sure that's. cool man yeah damn she went to Ole Miss. she did she's from San Diego her dad. that California to Ole Miss no. she only knew she knew like one other. girl I think from San Diego but um she. wanted dude she's she wanted to. an experience outside of what she was. raised in and so she went and toured she. said she went and saw like Texas.

uh LSU maybe Alabama and then she went. to Ole Miss and she just was like this. is where I want to go she did say that. when she went she was she thought like. you know there's a lot of people I think. she was like this is South so. everybody's gonna have like cowboy hats. and [ __ ] and she shows up and it's just. a bunch of [ __ ] fat frat dudes like. you know what I mean like completely. different you know than what she thought. but well especially at Ole Miss I don't. think you get the cowboy hat at it Ole. Miss no no that's a Mississippi State. though yeah yeah the Ole Miss is all the. kids from Memphis and Jackson dude yeah.

definitely city city kids. City Country kids if that makes sense. yeah I think it does man that's. interesting. um Ben was there anything else in the. news that we wanted to look at I'm. trying to think of anything else that. was cool. oh dude what let me see people. yeah it says the average penis length is. growing according to a new study. the study was led by Michael Eisenberg a. Urology professor at Stanford medicine. and sexual function Specialists the.

compiled data from over 75 studies done. between 1942 and 2021 damn he's been. just looking at a lot of Wayne huh. uh gathered measurements of the erect. penises of over 55 000 men God this. dude's probably in the damn closet if. he's got a wife she needs a damn knock. on the door sometimes and see what's. going on in there 55 000 men and erect. dude yeah there's no way you could look.

at this many I don't want to bring up a. picture of the guy but damn dude are we. sure he's not just the findings were. astounding that's what he says dude uh. let me see zoom in on bro there's no way. that that guy wasn't born in. oh no he just looks like a dude. 1942 though. oh that's when the star that's when he's. been looking at him from then oh oh okay. so he's just been looking at pictures. from then yeah or drawing how do you. even find a picture of an erect penis. from 1942. oh you I think you can get.

that pretty easily I think it's some of. the rest of the it's like just putting. them all in a stack or whatever how many. is there go back to the information. please brother. let me see the finals penis length also. showed variation about go down. um let's get into some information. oh it locked up great. you know what's becoming interesting you. have to pay for news now do you notice. that yeah. so then if over time. whatever information is going to be only.

available to people with money um. damn that's wild it's gonna get weird. yeah you get you read I've noticed that. like I'll see a clickback thing and. you'll read like The. though just enough and then it's like. for the rest like subscribe to. Huffington Post or whatever it is. oh there you go can we get any more. Eisenberg told Stanford showed variation. back we we all knew that already by. geographic region yeah that's that's a. given right I think so. in the article Eisenberg said chemical. exposure could be interacting with our.

hormone makeup which could be one of the. many reasons that biological changes. occurring oh maybe people are living in. a place where there's more Plastics in. the water. or or could it be like uh I've heard. like kids like a 13 year old boy or girl. today looks like a like a grown-up like. has the is built like a grown-up uh. compared to like in the. 30s 40s 50s or whatever because of like. hormones in the food or something like. that that's crazy dude it's weird what. we're gonna end up as we're gonna end up.

like chickens in your dad's thing yeah. we probably kind of already are you know. it feels like it doesn't it sometimes. yeah. you know it feels like we all know the. same information and are kind of like. watching this you know it's like we all. get the same six news stories every day. yeah we're all kind of like stuck in the. same thing what about that train thing. are you keeping up with that that Ohio. derailment yeah it's supposed to make it. here but I don't oh that cloud is coming. here or something yes I am well I'm. gonna get a hot air balloon and go up. and get a hit cause if that [ __ ] comes.

over here you might grow a [ __ ] tail. or something to do that dude. third arm or something dude I'll take it. bro if I had three arms dog oh what. would I do what would you do with three. arms would you go would you fight people. oh yeah I would grapple you'd make a. hell of a prostitute I think too oh yeah. dude you'd be you could juggle oh but. you'd have to juggle like five things. right yeah that's true huh you have to. really up the Annie what would you do if.

I had three arms oh you could be a. really good like blackjack dealer oh. yeah car dealer. I got a hand job from this gal at Dell. Blackjack one time and I remember at the. end she went like that she went like. this she it was like. at the end dude like that yeah it was. awesome dude pretty cool and that was. over by uh I think by the win. is that in Louisiana y'all got Casino I. was in Las Vegas oh Vegas no we don't we. have two you guys have Tupelo right uh.

Tunica Tunica but that's another thing. about my hometown we got two big uh. Choctaw casinos oh really out in the. country like you you top over this hill. dude and it's these two like. they're like what the size of like. Tunica or somewhere like uh like. Vicksburg like they're but there's one. that's crazy it's called the Golden Moon. and it's this like Stairway to Heaven. looking [ __ ] with a with a big old moon. at the top corner of it it's pretty wild. it's in Philadelphia oh wow but I moved. here when I was 20 and when I was 19 so.

I never. got to go and do it yeah and I was. afraid of getting out there like. sneaking out there and trying to sneak. on the floor and like getting arrested. or going to like Choctaw jail or. something you know oh yeah what did we. have. do you have one in Covington or close. no what did we have we had we had like a. daiquiri place people would go drink it. that was big in Louisiana get you a dash. oh I've heard all and they put the. little straw the thing on the end yeah. if they don't take like the thing if. they don't take the paper off the straw. clothes container right so they'll give.

you that thing with that little hat on. it yeah you know dude uh it's crawfish. season oh yeah it's good I haven't I. haven't had any yet this year yeah. they're good man did you guys ever have. them up Mississippi did they get up yeah. yeah oh yeah yeah we actually just. recently in the past 10 years there's a. place in Philadelphia called Blake's. seafood and they do it there then you. can go get like a. they go you know I'm actually going to. Philadelphia tomorrow I'm playing a. little acoustic Hometown show and I'm. gonna go get some crawfish that sounds. pretty good that does sound good.

do we used to go because I used to work. on a farm in Mississippi in the Summers. so I've heard you say that I go up to. Natchez right yeah and the Farms I mean. the lane was actually right over the. Levee in uh Louisiana oh really because. Natchez is on the border right yeah so. we go by like Deer Park we'd be like in. Faraday and Vidalia like right there. um and we go across and. and we'd be in uh. in Mississippi. and yeah it was nice man what kind of. farm was it it was soybean corn okay.

cotton did you ever find arrowheads out. there Milo uh no but they had land. around where we go look for them. sometimes on the weekends I found them I. look for him out here go look for civil. war [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah well Natchez. that's right yeah apparently Natchez uh. was like. that the the union came up the river and. they fired a bunch of cannons off and. that the whole city came out and was. just like surrendered or whatever. because it gave up yeah and it kind of. opened up the gate.

oh Dave Natchez gave up Natchez to the. union go look it up Natchez surrender in. a civil war and they and I am they I. think they kind of opened up the gate to. because there's a lot of the battles I. don't know what they were doing then. but I could see everybody being on. something and just dude this is right. here is Big Civil War [ __ ] really yeah. big time there's a hill right over here. called shies Hill and there's a memorial. at the top it was a giant battle people. people find uh still to this day find.

relics and [ __ ] in the ground metal do. you know what I mean like oh yeah all. kinds of stuff I'd get up my buddy says. he saw a ghost He Lives over here says. he saw a union I mean dude and this dude. is he from Mississippi no he's from uh. he's from Minnesota oh damn I don't know. if they usually like ghosts as much dude. he was laying his hammock said he saw a. dude walking like up the side of his. Hill in like Civil War outfit I swear to. God and he was like dude he was like I. don't believe in nothing and I saw this. and I was like I think I just saw a. ghost walking upside Hill where there.

was like actual battles wow I could see. that man I could see there being so much. traffic right where a lot of deaths. happen at once yeah that a couple. Spirits get kind of logged in the eye. yeah something like that right ether. open that back up Ben please. there we go. this [ __ ] looks damn. is this a play I know.

um I'm sure that's pretty sure it was a. thing that they fired a bunch of cannons. and [ __ ]. I got a damn AA meeting do you yeah. what time. in one minute oh [ __ ]. it's at home all right word all right. cool. um. yeah will you be bummed if we and and. chat another time dude not at all okay. cool about two hours dude yeah we've. been sitting here for a while I. appreciate the time man yeah I would.

appreciate you teach me about the. Nashoba County yeah dude you gotta go. dude I can't even believe it looks. amazing I can't believe I've never heard. of it I mean you could just walk and. dude like people are so inviting like. you can walk into any cabin and say hey. I'm not from here can you guys tell me. something to do and any cabin will be. like coming here feed you like. it's just it's the coolest thing in the. world God and it's hot as [ __ ] which I. love dude yeah well you know what's. interesting man is I noticed like say if.

like there's been times where I go and. stay in a hotel somewhere and then I'll. stay like in an off the beaten path. place that doesn't have air conditioning. and there's something about when you're. in that non-ac place you like wake up in. the middle of the night you're sweating. and shit's weird and it's like but it. feels like more natural yeah it's sticky. I made it nasty but it feels a lot more. nasty yeah we did that in Thailand like. we went to Thailand for a honeymoon and. like there was a couple places that were. like that and it was just like they. still have air conditioning yeah you.

feel like you're just out you know. you're inside you feel like you're. outside or something. I don't know yeah yeah I think it was. just when you're more in taught in a. nature when that kind of stuff's going. on yeah you know. but yeah I could imagine that there's a. lot of places where people died at once. and then there's this bumper to bumper. traffic going to heaven or whatever I. think so and people's like I'm a mill. around yeah it's like that's like why. like uh um Mental Hospitals and like old. prisons and [ __ ] you know where like a. lot of people died in one place they. said that's like the most haunted places. oh yeah you know what I mean I could see.

it yeah. um. or at the Mockingbird and the crow. yeah congratulations man thank you very. much yeah please keep please keep. writing and making cool music man thank. you brother I love you know my sister. and I are one of my sister and I. remember was super close and we listened. to uh give uh Heaven some hell yeah yeah. yeah and do we we just Jam outside we've. never done that before that's awesome. dude so it's cool like you know we never. had that kind of even though that little. moment of fun we never had that that's. cool dude uh that's that makes my day.

that's the power of music man it really. is the only language we all know how to. speak dude yeah it's pretty incredible. uh thanks for all your contributions to. it all you guys can check out Hardy uh. we'll put all his links to everything. and um and you guys can catch them on. tour on his own tour and uh with more. with Morgan and Parker and bayley learn. and earn yeah oh dude so funny I can't. wait to have earn in here yeah it's a. trip yeah he is man thank you so much I. dude this is I really appreciate it yeah. it's awesome man I'm glad we got to.

spend some time yeah. [Music]. feel I'm. [Music]. I'm [ __ ] on. oh but when I reach that ground I'll. share this piece of my life. [Music]. gonna take.