Georges St-Pierre | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #523

sitting down today to talk about. dinosaurs and fears with one of the. greatest mix martial artists uh of our. time of any time uh he won UFC belts in. two different weight classes and you. can't even talk about the sport without. mentioning him uh I'm really honored to. be in his presence today and I mean that. today's guest is Mr George St Pierre. [Music].

I'll sit and tell you my. stories and I will find a song I will. [Applause]. sing this is your country man yes sir. and so what it's um yeah because it's. French Canadian so which one is the real.

one or which you know what I'm saying. like who's really the boss or whatever. well there's no really I mean who's the. bus I don't know if there's really a bus. uh like if you had to pick one do you. get to pick one or every day it's the. same yeah you mean the. bus talk about the the leader yeah most. people will tend to say oh it's the you. know the political leader the the of. Canada or the prime minister the the.

president but I'm I'm I think I mean you. can call me conspir conspiration. thinking that but I don't think he's the. one that really control everything I. think he's the there's people behind. that yeah maybe I mean that's what I. believe I could be wrong but that's what. I think that's what I think too yeah I. think the president is the face it's a. face it's the puppet but but but like. our prime minister is the face but I. think there's people behind that there's. certain things that he he cannot do that.

that's what I I believe did you always. believe that you think or that you think. that's grown over the years kind of it's. a good. question I think it grown over the years. especially because there's a lot of. sometime sometimes there's a lot of. conspiracy that turns out to be true. yeah and. um and there's so much stuff on on. internet nowadays that you can try to. search any anything and they will give. you something to read about yeah a. certain subject even if it's comp ly.

Preposterous yeah so it's hard to to to. know what is real and what is not yeah. but maybe that's the reason why because. of that it makes me realize that oh what. I'm seeing is maybe not really what it. is yeah oh yeah yeah I think it's. fascinating because yeah say if like a. lot of media was like kind of all. controlled right then of course they're. going to not want you to know some. things yeah and eventually people are. going to kind of figure those things out.

people figure things out I think it's. it's always about money and power I know. people that has money and power what. they want is they want more money and. more power I tend to believe that most. of people are mostly in the middle and. in like if you look at politics you have. the extreme right extreme left and but. most people are I think mostly in the. middle you know that they're not to one. side or the other and and and the way. it's portrayed is that you have to pick.

one side or the other side and you're. like [ __ ] I don't know what to do you. know what I mean because I'm you know. I'm stuck in the middle yeah I think. Stuck in the Middle is probably the best. spot you know and I think most people. are probably pretty logical you would. think but then maybe sometimes I start. to wonder do I give people too much. credit you know like or a lot of people. just bat [ __ ] crazy you know and then I. wonder sometimes am I just bat [ __ ]. crazy you know yeah it's true we have to. look at ourselves in the mirror. sometimes it's hard yeah but wonder.

sometimes like um yeah I'm amazed I. guess that power and money drive so many. people like I get it being like an. influence you know but I think there's a. part of. me I guess I'm shocked that it has that. much control what do you think um I mean. you you're kind of one of one uh George. you've had such a I mean you got to. almost have kind of a perfect career in. a lot of ways you know I made tons of. mistake looking at it and I wish I could. do better better because I'm very.

critics crit critic CR critics about. myself but yeah I'm I'm I'm happy what I. I have accomplished yeah and did you. think uh was it power success driving. you like what you what was kind of your. driving force do you feel like I'll be. honest with you 100% I I never like to. fight I love the. sport I love the science of it I like. the camarad Dre that I have with my. friend you know before like a training. camp you know it's like you're going to.

war uh I. despise fight day it's unbearable for me. I'm extremely. uncomfortable and not knowing if I will. be hurt uh humiliated or winning the. ultimate price is unbearable for me it's. it's it's very hard to deal with but. it's a price that you have to pay if you. want want to.

achieve Freedom like for me I I first. started doing it because I had had a a. certain uh natural talent I would say. you know if I would be born with an anap. I would probably not be able to to do. what I did so I was a gifted athlete and. uh I wor I also work really hard but I. also I consider myself extremely lucky. the stars were all align because there. was guys that I've met through my.

journey that were probably more talented. than I was uh there's guys that I met. that probably worked harder than I than. I. did but I think what made the difference. is the fact that I met the right people. at the right time had the sometime life. gave me certain opportunity that I did. not shy away I was always willing to get. out of my comfort zone in order to. improve which is not the case for a lot.

of athletes and not only athlet like. entrepreneur humans for a human for for. all of us it's hard to get out of our. comfort zone but sometime it's necessary. it's a necessary evil in order to to. improve yeah yeah well I think like what. you said like cuz you can control how. much you how hard you work you can. control those are a lot of control. factors but that is that's a risk when. you get out there and you get on the. fight day yeah some of it's out of your. control I remember did it feel like that.

is that what it felt like kind of it's. it's it's always a question of risk and. reward you know it's calculated risk um. I remember if if I go back uh more than. like almost 30 years. ago uh I couldn't really speak English. very well I learned it at school but I. grew up in a French environment so my. English was really bad it's hard yeah. and the first time I I I remember I was. already at black belt in karate and I.

wanted to go to the Gracie Academy in. New York because that's where the best. Jiu-Jitsu athlete were were training at. the time. so I knew that I needed to go there in. order to train with the best to learn. from the best so I'm about at that time. I'm about like 16 17 years old and uh. I'm planning to go there with two of my. friend two of profession that are. professional athletes at the time and uh. one of them only one of them speak. perfect. English so he's the he's the yeah and it.

was not like it is today there were. there were not like ways so we have to. go on map quest and it was a pain in a. in a butt to find your way so so I'm. driving I got a shitty Ford temple with. a hole in in in I remember where I I. used to put the the brake pedal so. people used to make fun of me it was. like the Flintstone you know I could. yeah I could almost put my foot on the. floor you know so the plan was to go in. New York to to go to go there and we. share uh we share the hotel together so.

we save money and we we we share the gas. and everything but the day. before B the day before the trip they. one of them called me and he's the one. it's the one that speak English he's. like hey George I cannot make it I'm. like are you kidding me and I'm talking. to the other one who's supposed to come. with me he's like oh if he's not going. I'm not going either I'm like man well. you know what I said I said to my son. effort I'm going by myself and that's it. so I went there and I remember man.

I got my ass. whoop by a guy who. weighs maybe 30bs lighter than me wow I. I got I got tapped out like in Jitsu. when you're stuck in an arar or a choke. you have to tap otherwise your arm bre. break or or you get choked out so and I. remember at the time I was like man I. was I was getting mold I was a black. belt and car right I was good a good. Striker but in grappling I didn't have a. lot of knowledge and I knew I needed to. learn in order to become a mixed martial.

art fighter but man I got beat up so bad. and I and I remember driving back I was. I was that close to to to give up and I. I told myself say you know what I need. to go back out there and learn and every. time I was going back there it was tough. for me because guys a lot of them were. trying to bully me a few of them were. very nice to me but it was a constant. grind and I remember the two guys that. were supposed to come with me they asked. me hey how how was it I'm like man get. my ass kicked so bad man they never came.

back with me they were like they wanted. to stay in their comfort zone so that's. the difference you know if you want to. succeed sometime it's a necessary evil. you're going to go through pain you're. going to might be humiliated you're. going to you're going to fail but then. have to go through that man in order to. improve you know and that's that's what. I was ready to do which is probably the. case of other guys so that the reason. why I was successful it's not because I. think I was more gifted or you know I I. work harder it's just because I was.

ready to do that sacrifice you know yeah. what do you think kind of made you in in. that space to take that sacrifice cuz I. guess it's. like yeah I mean it's well giving up is. easy. yeah it's uh I think saying something is. better saying something's too hard it's. kind of easy you know I think unless. you're different I think some people. look at that as a challenge and some. people look at it as an uh just a. reality yeah I think I think I think if. you want to be the best at something I'm.

not talking being good I'm talking about. you want to be the best at something and. in every field I think you need to be a. little bit obsessed I I was never. diagnosed I never saw a Psy a. psychologist for it but I think I'm I. I'm obsessive compulsive and I think did. you notice it when you were young like. what kind of things did you see like you. would do well one thing I would do um. that is completely crazy. um uh uh it's very stupid but I I used.

to do like when I when I walk on the. sidewalk mhm for example I remember in. New York going to train I walk on a. sidewalk and there's line on the. sidewalk and I notice that I step over. one line with my right foot but I have. to. step over with the left to make it an. equal number and it sometime these. things are so stupid but it drive you. nuts when I drill techniques in. Jiu-Jitsu I have to do this in or. wrestling or any combat sport I have to.

do the same amount on each side even. though in a fight I will most likely do. one side my best side but I have to do. the other side and I think these things. as crazy as it sound are probably some. of the the things that made me perform. well you know right cuz you need things. to be even you need things to be. calculated maybe or even the fact that. you're even calculating things is kind. of it sounds crazy it sounds obsessive. but it also is kind of magnificent in a.

way because to be great at something. you're going to have to be someone who's. calculating things even when you're not. uh even in your subconscious it also I. think it's good for an athlete for. performance but you need to learn how to. let go yeah you need to. learn to punch punch in and punch out. and sometime it's hard I see in the news. Sometimes some Fighters they can't do it. you know they they they go crazy or they. keep going yeah like Tony Ferguson he. keeps going do you think it's a tough.

space that he's in like cuz it's weird. people love watching him fight right and. it feels like he loves like giving. himself to the people he like it almost. like he shows up just because he knows. we're going to love him so much yeah but. you start to think that it's painful for. him I mean he's had a tough run recently. yeah I I love to to to see him fight. it's uh it's just unfortunate because. the Tony Ferguson that you see nowadays. is it's. not the the Tony Ferguson that he was. when he he was in his prime and uh it.

depends what he's trying to accomplish. you know. I I prioritize my health you know first. and and that's my priority but some guys. they they have a kick of it they they. they don't care they they prioritize. having I don't know some of them they. love to fight you know for them it's. it's it's a it's an adrenaline they love. it I never liked it I mean I did it. because I wanted to have the the freedom. you know the the life that I have so I I.

used that to propel myself where I. wanted to be in life but some guys they. they just love to fight and I and it's. funny because when I was. young I was looking. around and I I never felt I was at the. right place I I I remember I I seek the. help of sport psychologists and a lot of. them they told me you know like they. were trying to brainwash me they were. like ah George stop saying you're afraid. you're not afraid you're excited I'm. like I'm like bro I'm excited if I I.

don't know if I see a beautiful woman or. you know like like or you know what I. mean I'm not I'm not excited to go fight. in a in a in a cage you know what I mean. so I'm afraid then I realize that you. should not be afraid I should not be. afraid to admit that I'm afraid you know. there's no courage without fear and when. I made peace with it I knew it was a. normal thing and I learned how to. control it but it's uh that's why. there's some guys I think they fake it. so hard and they don't make peace with.

it and when the light is on is on and. it's time to perform they crumble you. see that very often in combat sport guys. that are very good in the gym but then. when it's time to go they they don't. perform as well you're like what's going. on you know that's why because they. don't know how to deal with they don't. know how to domesticate Their Fear they. don't know how to they don't how to. manage their fear they don't know how to. manage it they don't how to control. their stress um I remember I think it's. KAS to the Mike Tyson coach he says fear. is like fire it can help you cook your.

food but it can also burn you if you. don't know how to control it you know. and and one of my psych psychologist. used to sport psychologist used to say. to me he like you have butterflies you. have to make them fly in formation. that's one thing you used to tell me all. the time I'm like that was a good. analogy that's crazy man and I'm sure. for you same thing I mean when you do a. a. show I mean I don't know are you afraid. to to to mess up being humiliated did it.

ever happen to you that like you you. you're you screwed up you're like [ __ ]. this thing doesn't work the way I want. and I mean I'm sure it happened like it. happened to me I I get hit or you know. what I mean I lose a fight yeah it. wasn't my plan my Strat yeah I didn't I. ran out of bullets I ran out of like. moves I tried some jokes it didn't work. oh the beginning you almost go out there. cuz you you just want I think you know. it's going to [ __ ] hurt you know and. you just want to I think a lot of comics. kind of hate them themselves a little. bit to be honest and so they go out.

there cuz they know the feeling that the. EMB the pain the the embarrassment and. pain they're going to feel finally it'll. match how they feel on the inside so. there's a little weirdness in that that. like some things are going to feel a. little even in a way um and also a lot. of comedians hate themselves so much. that the people could never hate them as. much as they [ __ ] hate themselves so. or they've talked so badly about. themselves like in their own head you.

know you need you mean you need to be. willing to make fun of yourself if you. want to do do that yeah I think that. helps because then it certainly at that. point it's like you're using all the. tools you already you make fun of others. but you make fun of you need to be ready. to make fun of yourself as well right. yeah and in your head like I think a lot. of comedians are like um you know they. have a lot of fear they have a lot of uh. inferiority and so when they're when. they're growing up they probably talk. badly to themselves in their head and so. then when they're able to joke about. themselves it's almost a way of.

releasing some of that it's like they're. making fun of themselves but it's in a. way that is making bringing joy to. people yeah so it almost kind of like. alleviates some of that if that makes. any sense over the year did did that. feeling of it goes away it goes away for. you yeah yeah that was my it goes away. it didn't it didn't go away from me. really yeah it got worse because every. fight is bigger than that but just the. fight so the fight itself so the. training and all of that you're train no. training makes me no I'm I'm nervous. before training because when you train.

for a fight you want to perform when. you're in between fight off season now. you want to have fun that's when. training is fun but when you're training. for a fight it's about performance it's. not that fun it's not fun uh winning is. fun but you know like like like one the. fight day would be tough I'm sorry the. fight day would be the toughest it's. terrible I I well to give you an example. fight day it's every fight day is the. worst day of my life you you you wake up. after shitty night of sleep and and when.

you wake up you're like because yeah you. don't sleep well because you make so I. make so much scenario in my mind if you. do this I'm going to do this and try to. cover every possible scenario that can. happen and and sometime you close your. eyes you try to see you try to be. positive but sometime you don't see. yourself winning sometime there's. certain imagery that pops up in your. head that you see yourself losing but I. develop a a trick I'm a firm believer of. the power of of thinking you know of the.

the power of the Mind visualization yes. so when you have a negative imag read. that pops up in your head it's a sign of. intelligence you know it's it's normal. it will happen because you're smart you. can you can uh you can for foresee. certain bad outcome so you need to be. prepared so so it forces you to you. don't want to finish your visualization. on a negative note because it would. leave a scar up up here so I always. force myself when I see myself getting.

dropped by a punch then I I don't let go. I just force myself okay I'm going to. I'm going to scramble back up and get. back in control of the fight and then oh. I can go on with my life do whatever I. need I need to do so I think if you. only finish on the negative it could. leave a scar that's one of the thing. that over the year I I I tried to do and. it helped me a lot that's powerful it. reminds me of the fight the first Sarah. fight I think you know and I I know you. didn't get the outcome that you wanted.

but you stayed alive I mean you you know. that was a yeah I I I got hit so many. time I I I was like gez I felt like we. were getting hit at home I remember and. and mat SAR really surprised me because. going into that fight was my first title. defense Matt sah was known for his. grappling prowess you know he. was very one of the most decorated Jitsu. at the time and and I was more more. worried about his ground game than his.

standup but he worked a lot on his stand. up game and he cut me with a punch that. I never saw coming on behind the here. and when he caught me I remember I got. emotional because I wanted to give it. back to him right away you know like. this was not supposed to happen the odds. were were favoring me like something. like 10 to one or something crazy so I. wanted to give it back to him right away. and like an idiot I fall into a slug. Fist and when you're a stun. you're not accurate cuz you're dizzy he.

was accurate and he hits very hard so I. got like a I don't I can't remember how. many punches I I I got hit with alive. though oh I I but you know what I did so. because I I didn't know where I was I. was so dizzy I tapped out and I got I. got a lot of critics because oh he's a. quitter he Tapped Out on strike and. everything and it affect me at the time. because I was like man you know like. maybe I'm not as good as I think and a. lot of people were like oh he's maybe.

not not as good as as people think and. um I needed to build myself mentally. from that and it was very very hard. because I lost the confidence and. confidence for a fire is the most. important thing because you can have all. the skills in the world but if you don't. have the confidence if I can make an. analogy it's it's like someone who has a. lot of money in his bank account but no. way of accessing it so I needed to build. myself back up and it was it was a tough. time I remember I it's funny you see it. that way because I saw it as wow I.

cannot believe how I think it it for me. it goes back to what you were saying. that like to visual like if you. visualize yourself getting hit to then. finish on a visualization of yourself. you know returning back to form and like. still being in the bout cuz that's what. it seemed like to me I mean I know he. got the victory on that one but um I I I. I I tapped out on strike and I'm not. ashamed to say it a lot of guys that. would say because there there's this. thing in our sport that oh he Tapped Out. on strike you you quit but man it's a.

sport we're not in a war and I rather. save myself for another another day all. right you always seem like that guy you. always seem like the you always a. perfect strategist I'm never going to. give up until it's finished but that. fight was finished I was gone I I it was. a matter of time that I was probably. going to fall unconscious so I decided. to tap and to save some of my brain. cells and come back another day and and. yeah and I think there's no shame about. it when when that happened at the time I.

was ashamed a little bit and I didn't. want to talk about it but you know I'm. glad I did it I'm glad I did it yeah. well I think it's easier probably to. look in back in the p and see the long. you know to see the whole like all the. work you know yeah to see it as a whole. as like a whole piece there um yeah what. was what was kind of one of the toughest. times you felt like in your career was. that probably it you think because you. had just gotten the title it's your. first title defense it that that was. that was bad mentally uh the first loss.

before that I lost to Matt yeah it was. more of a learn learning experience this. was different because it really brought. my. confidence down and I remember at the. time I one of I had a sport psychologist. he he's awesome I shout out to Brian. Kane and Brian or Ryan Bri Brian Kane he. was amazing and he he and he's deceased. no no no no no no no he's still he's. still around good good he work he works. with pro athlete and he says to.

me he says to me because after that. fight I immediately the only thing I was. thinking about is to to get back out. there and get my get my my revenge you. know because I was not proud of my. performance I was like man I'm better. than this I'm better than this guy I. want to I want to go back out there and. show the world and you know my ego. wanted to show the world that I I'm. better than this but the the fight that. I had were was not against Sarah my my. other I needed to build like to win have.

a few more wins before I to to return. for a title shot so I was not focusing. on the right thing I was focusing on. Matt sah instead of focusing on my next. opponent and that could have been very. bad so what my sport psychologist did to. me he said said George you're carrying a. lot of brick and I didn't know what mean. at the time so he made me carry a brick. and he made me write the name of Sarah. with Clay on it and he made me carry. that brick in my training bag and every.

day I was going to train with that. freaking brick and in TriStar you had to. go up the stairs and it's a it's not a. pleasant walk to go to the gym it's it's. kind of a training of itself of itself. and at one point like after a week I. call him like Hey can I get rid of that. brick he's like no you keep it you keep. it I'm like man this guy is completely. insane you know like he's he was you. know I thought that he was crazy he. probably need a psychologist himself so. I kept carrying carrying the brick. carrying and right the like the week. before my my fight with with I think it.

was Josh kek that I was trying to get. back to a title shot I was like man I. can't deal with this [ __ ] anymore can I. throw throw that break out he's like. okay I'm coming wait so I went to where. the s laen River is I threw it I grab it. and I threw it in the water and I know. it sounds coo to say but it was. something physical that I did that had a. profound. uh change on my mental it it kind of.

free me from that uh that that needs to. prove to the world that that I want to. beat him again you know so I was able to. focus on the immediate task ahead right. yeah because sometimes that desire I. just it's a blind desire almost like I. need to prove and it's not uh it's. powerful but it's not effective because. it's not calculated yeah you know and it. can be even more dangerous sometimes. anything yeah so so so I was not I was.

going in a dangerous path because I was. not focusing on the on the important on. the most important thing that was my the. the the fight like I was focusing on the. other fight be after but yeah I was. about to to to screw it up bad I know. whenever you retired HRI what was your. no your last fight was Bisping Bisping. was my last fight after I took a I took. a break after enricks yeah first of all. I'd like to say thank you to Dan Morgan. and everyone over at Morgan and Morgan.

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people.com this past weekend or dial. pound law pound 529 from your sell this. is a paid. advertisement um yeah whenever you took. a break after Hendrick you talked about. like you were going through a tough time. or something what was that about it was. was it stuff you couldn't talk about. before yeah it was I had a lot of issue. a lot of family issue and problem and. and the thing is when you're uh I was a. very active fighter and and when you say.

active what do you mean fighting often. yeah fighting often and and also you. have to consider that you do a lot of. promotion tours and and stuff it takes a. lot out of you and also the stress on on. always you always have someone that that. is threatening you cuz when you're the. contender you don't have as much stress. because you have one target you want to. be Champion you want to go there that's. the Benchmark you know that's the best. isn't it yes it's hard to be to become. Champion but it's even harder to stay.

Champion there's not a lot of guy that. stay Champion for a long time it's very. hard because when you're Champion you're. the target when you're the contender you. have you have you know one one guy is. starting it's nobody really targets you. but if you get to the title shot is you. have only one guy that targets you when. you're the champion everyone targets you. so you're the Target and you don't have. much time to prepare for your. your opponent and your opponent is been.

looking at you for years because he's. climbing the rank and he's studying you. is's trying to find a shake in your. armor and every time they interview any. of those guys they all call your name. because you're the guy of course so. that's why it is much different it's. much more difficult to stay Champion. than than becoming champion and and when. you're. Champion it's hard because your life. change you have more. responsibility and more uh. there's a lot of more requests and stuff.

and and man it's and that's what. happened to me at the time I I was you. know I was doing it for so long and I. had so much pressure for so long and I. remember at the time I was I didn't want. I was shy to talk about it because I was. like if I talk about it before the fight. and I was fighting against they they. used to have big problem with. performance enhancing drug in in mixed. martial art it was it was a a big big. problem oh they got big problems with. know at a damn 7eleven dude people are.

shooting up everywhere. now I I I I never wanted to like to. accuse one individual but I wanted to. change the system and the UFC at the. time didn't really add my back they. didn't really helped me on that and I it. was I was fighting against that behind. closed door and it you were saying some. of these guys could be using we have to. test stronger oh 100% that's why I did. the test when I when I fought andrix. when I fought also bjen we did the test. uh because I was I wanted to implement.

this it's crazy because you play. basketball you play soccer play football. but you don't play fighting can lose. your your brain cells out there it's. different and it makes some people like. yeah but it doesn't make that SM. [ __ ] it makes such a huge it's a. tons of difference man I I've trained. with guys that are openly like they're. saying to me like when they are on on on. cycle it's not even the same person no. yeah guys like it it changes you not. only stamina strength. recovery but also your your your brain.

your your reaction time you're more. creative there there's thing that you. would do when you're on it that that you. wouldn't that maybe do when you're not. you know so so oh you'll start [ __ ]. the air when you're on you're on test. 700 or whatever dude I saw a guy one. time just yeah he just he had so you. know he just he turned into an animal. yeah 100% 100% so so in fighting so. that's a risk then because you're at the. top obviously everybody's focused on you. and if you don't know if some of the if. you're staying clean and you don't know. if some of the some of the um testing is.

up to your what you believe is a fair. code yeah then [ __ ] that would be really. scary well the the the martial art I. think the one of the thing in martial. art is the respect and and being just. being fair and and I mean the the these. are the tra traditional value of of. martial art and I I always try to carry. that with me and um I felt like I was in. some way you know not betrayed but I I. felt a little bit let go and I was just.

fed up I was just I just needed to take. a time off you know I was that's why I I. left for more than four years you know. and I'm I'm glad I did it because uh. maybe I should have done it maybe a. fight be one one fight before you know. it would a you can burn out man yeah. it's so much PR people don't I don't. think realize that I can't even imagine. the responsibilities and then yeah. especially while the sport is still. building so much at that time like that. was a huge building period perod for UFC. and So like um to have so just to have.

like interview requests I want you to be. here and you want to do all the things. you can do you know because you feel. like you're physically capable but yeah. part of you starts to get burned down. it's like a I don't know it's almost. like when you light a candle and there's. nothing left in it yeah that's how I. feel sometimes I I remember you you just. finish a fight and immediately after. there's another guy called you calling. you out and being myself I'm I'm sort of. a obsessive compulsive guy so as soon as. another guy calling me out I'm start to.

make scenario in my mind I'm like okay. this I'm like it drive you nuts it drive. you and when you're the contender you. come you're on your way up you don't. have that problem yeah you know yeah of. course when maybe you get to the top. five you know but but before that nobody. notice you nobody care about you you. care about them but they don't care. about you that's so funny I when you're. on top now you're the target everybody. talk [ __ ] about you they they they. disrespect you and if you want you want. it or not it touches you you know. because you say oh you don't bother.

watching these thing but you know it. touches you and and you see sometime. things get bad you see the people they. insult each other and and people always. ask me sometime oh do you think they. went too far I mean this is the fight. game man they you can die out there or. you can have certain damage that will. make you die in the near future oh yeah. wheelchairing or whatever anything The. Art of War man they're going to try. everything to try to make you lose your. mind and we saw many many fights that.

guys lose their mind and that's one of. the reason why like everybody knows. Conor McGregor yeah he his first title. fight against Jose Aldo he knock knock. him out in like something like s second. he pissed off Jose Aldo so much Jose. Aldo lost his money went out of his game. plan and tried to rush to him to give it. to him Conor MRE is an incredible. counter puncher he just slipped boom. that was it that was a I mean it was.

very smart from his part to he taunt. Jose Aldo it it. was it was emotional it was I believe it. was prepared I believe he he put Jose. Alo exactly where he wanted to be he set. it up by all the interview all the. things he said all the thing he done. right he started the fight months before. in away yeah so when you're in that. fight G fight game another thing that. people don't talk about. you'd never want to show your your.

private life right because people will. talk will use that against you talk. about people me I can put a shield if. you can insult me you can say whatever. you want I I'm very good at putting a. shield and it's not going to bother me. but you talk about someone I love. someone I care about now it's going to. get me you know yeah so and we saw that. another time with with Connor and and. kabib norov the the the famous fight. after yeah that was crazy yes so that. that's the reason why it it went crazy.

after because they were they they cross. the line but it's the fight game that's. a fight game I don't think it's right. but a lot of guys will do that to make. you the real of course do you respect. guys just as much that do that I mean. it's just it's another facet to war in a. way right it's the Art of War man they. they it's combat sport man it's it's. kill or be kill man they they're going. to do it you think it's evolved more as. since like in the past like 15 years. have you noticed it evolved more over. time like that it's more of a strategy. now or do you think more people see it.

coming now like what do you think the. evolution of that's been of trash. talking it's a good question I think. what changes is the fact that now we. have social media and we're in touch. with the world I can be at home in. Montreal and insulting you when you're. in Tennessee in two second and you will. notice it in in Real Time Boom before. that was not really the case we didn't. have that that that power you know now. you can say something the old sees it. and oh did you heard what he said oh so.

that's I think what made makes the. difference you know it's different now. yes um do you feel like the testing has. gotten better over time in the sport. well now I think it got a little bit. worse because one company quit right or. they when company got laid off usid. right and I interrupted you I. interrupted youor George no no no no. pleas please it's true uh what happened. is they didn't have any testing first. then they h I think you usada so it got.

much better they test beef and stuff. don't they is it the same. group they. they USA I don't think oh my God bro if. the same person testing my pork chops is. testing Mike Perry then I think we got. we got to [ __ ] figure something out I. mean I think both of them are clean but. I'm just saying but well you saw when I. when when USA just just arrived on the. scene a lot of the Champion I F I felt. you know and and they made a they lost a.

lot of money but I give them props. because they they took the lead they. they had to do it they had to clear they. had to make sure and I'm happy they and. that's one of the reason I came back and. I and I fought Bisping because they if. they would not have made drug test I. would never have come back wow I was. like no way I'm I'm like this is I don't. I don't like that but now I think it was. too it just wasn't fair it just wasn't. it's not fair it was insane it was like. too much like I'm never gonna say he. this guy this guy but when you're in. you're in the the industry you know.

who's who you know who do what it's a. small world we we all know and uh oh. it's like when you're in ninth grade and. some kid shows up like that with pimples. everywhere you know what's going on you. know what Ricky's been doing you know. what I'm saying you just know yeah but. sometime it's not even you cannot even. notice it physically because certain. drug like like for example like EPO will. give you a crazy stemo but might not. really changes you uh physically there's. stuff that that you people talks you. know who's who and I mean it was just at.

the time it was in it was insane and I'm. glad that UFC did this I didn't want to. bring UFC down that was not my intent. when I did this I wanted to elevate the. sport and I'm glad they did it I think. it elevated the sport and now yeah. they're not with usada anymore but I. think they hire another organization to. to do the test uh now but I do believe. that if you want to avoid corruption it. needs to be a separated entity that do. the test than the the organization.

itself and is that what they have now. right now it says I am not sure but if. the organization has power in order like. in in in their testing it's corrupted it. cannot be corrupted it needs to be a a. different. entity where the the organization does. not have any power right right because. they can't be able to control and say. hey let's make this okay and this course. imagine you have a big fight coming up. and the two the two guys that headline. the cars like one of them test positive. just screwed up the card you know and.

they lose a lot of money so they have a. a they they have an interest in in this. yeah this is drug free sport. International will be in charge of the. collection process under the new program. that begins in January when UFC's deal. with usada ends this was last. year former FBI special agent George Pio. best known for interrogating former. Iraqi dictator Sam Saddam Hussein will. be in charge of the new program huh. that's interesting you identify people. and entities in the space that can make. something that is already working well. and you make them better UFC vice. president Jeff nitzki said um you.

learned that usada is not the only. player in the space and that a. combination of other entities and. individuals can actually make your. program stronger and better and that's. exactly what's happening right now with. our program it it's I believe they want. clean guys fighting in there no doubt I. believe they want. money I think that's what they believe I. think that their number one interest is. the money which is normal they they they. run a business they're a business and. after after the security of the Fator. but I I I it's it's not to to bash them.

and and I think it's every company want. to make money that's the goal right like. that's the number one priority and after. if we can make it fair and clean okay. but money I I think is always the number. one I think and I well that's a good. point that's business and you know what. business sometimes business is. inherently has some evil edges to it or. not evil but it's like business gets. kind of dirty sometimes I'm not saying. this but I remember like I went and saw. uh Pier's last f. and I remember waiting outside the the.

people came and took him in there to. test him but are those tests are they. able to keep those tests. like legitim are they like well the the. the problem I I believe. is well just to give you an example when. I was training to fight Michael Bisping. you had to fill the a. whereabout to tell to let them know okay. I have training at this time uh this. time to this time at at this place. oh next week I'm in uh I'm in.

Florida but let's say you really want to. cheat for example okay you just tell. them you're going to I don't know. freaking Antarctica or somewhere where. they're not going to spend money to send. an investigator to test you oh yeah but. you go there you you you get your stuff. and then you know how long it stays in. your system and then after you got the. you surf on on the uh on on it for for. weeks you know what I mean so so oh I. see so you could use it to enhance and. then be clean when it's time for show or. another thing that guys do they have a a.

sponsors okay so they prepare their. their their excuse so let's say I'm. sponsored by a certain uh food. supplement company okay and um I'm I'm. taking for example a certain substance. that is. illegal I know that my the the food. supplement that the protein company that. sponsor me is Tainted by that certain. substance so I'm I'm sponsored by them. so when I get cut as oh it's not my. fault it's the company that sponsors me.

so that's another way so you prepare. your your your you know that that's. that's one of the way I would think they. they would do you yeah no I think that. makes sense did you feel like most of. the fights you fought people your. opponent was clean I I don't have the. evidence and and it's uh it's uh it's. wrong to accuse someone if you don't. have the evidence but uh I know for a. fact that there was a lot of guys a lot. a lot of guys that were using. performance anouncing drug and it was it.

was a big problem yeah and the same. thing in the Olympic where you have. money you will always have corruption. it's impossible to to to catch everyone. because the the technology to cheat will. always be one step ahead of the. technology to catch the I know crazy. it's like a cat and a mouse yeah well. you were fortunate man you got in and. you kind of got out at the time where. you wanted I mean you you'd achieved. everything you wanted I mean you're one. of the rare people that it's like it's. almost like if you look at your career. and stuff you're like dang man he made.

All the Right Moves you know um iic. about it I I was strategic but I have. the chance to have real friends a lot of. the people I I I hang out with that I'm. that I'm friend with they were friend. with me in the beginning and for me it's. very important because they don't tell. me what I want to hear they tell me the. truth what you need and even when I. wanted to come back and fight Michael. Bisping they a lot of my good friend. that were like George you're 36 years. old man your best years are maybe behind.

you what what are you trying to prove. and my my my AR my argument was like man. I I don't want to live with regret I. just want to do one more or you know. depend how how it's going to go you know. and if I fail I fail and I and I leave. and if I keep going I keep going but at. least give me one one shot and and if I. succeed we'll we'll see after you know. what I mean and um I didn't want to. leave with regret you know because let's. say let's say I would not have done it I.

was I would have grow up now I'm I'm 43. it's too late you know I passed my Prime. I would I would live with regrets I. should have done it and I would regret. it so I I I always believe that you. never want to live with regrets that's. the worst thing is there has there been. moments since then where like you're. just on the couch or something you've. had a couple beers and you're like I'm. [ __ ] getting back in there tomorrow. and it's just like you're just kind of. fired up. after after when i r I I I retired. because I had um when I I won the title.

but people don't know this but I I was. very heill like I I had a uler colitis. because I I was trying to to gain weight. colitis yes I I was trying to gain. weight because I was fighting in. swelling of the large intestine yes okay. I I was trying to put on weight Crone. disease you have Crone disease no no. it's uh it's ultr colitis it's not Crone. Crone is different but very often UL. circoli is transform into Crone and. Crown transform into cancer a lot of. time you know you see that progression.

so when that like when I when I had. those crazy crap it was during my. training camp with Bisping and I didn't. know what it was because it was blood. when I was going to bathroom and I told. myself I said whatever it is I'm going. to do the fight and I'm going to have. because no no but to to know what it is. you need to do what they call a. colonoscopy so they go with a camera you. need to yeah you need to take lative and. all that like it it you and I was trying. to put on weight so you know what I.

couldn't do it it was a few weeks before. and I said you know what whatever it is. I'll do the fight and I'll deal with it. after and after the fight I went to do. the test and I I got diagnosed with uh. UL colitis and I was on heavy heavy. medication like to for for. anti-inflammatory and I relinquish the. title I could have kept the title for. one year and like parade with the. sponsorship and but want to do that. because of the for the respect you know. so I I relinquish it cuz I didn't know.

what was going to happen I I I said man. I I don't know what's going to happen. you know so I tried to get better and. after a few few week it didn't really. work and I discover fasting. and what happened is pretty incredible I. I met a doctor Dr Jason fun in in uh. Toronto Jason fun Fu n g yes he's uh. he's Japanese huh yeah neph nephologist. he's I think it's Chinese or Canadian. Chinese yeah that's him exactly he gave.

me a a fasting program he treat a. patient that has certain type of. diabetes and he gave me certain program. of fasting and what happened after the. next few weeks I all my symptoms. disappeared wow and I I diminished the. dose of my medication until I no longer. need it and what type of fasting like. what exactly were you doing I did two. types I did a what we call Tim. restricted eating where you eat in a c.

you eat all your calorie in a certain. window okay like intermittent fasting. yeah like you eat your calor in in 8. hour and you you fast on like you only. drink water in the 16 hour and I do also. prolong fasting so what I do when I do. prolong fasting I do four days only. water and when I train I take salt in my. in my hand I put a little bit and and I. lick like a. pervert it's okay or pervert Yeah perver. but but you take salt because you don't. want to deplete your mineral when you. and this over time because Ultra colitis.

you're supposed to be stuck with that. for Life wow it's a condition you have. for life when you got it you finish you. know you got it and all my symptoms are. gone now I can drink I can eat whatever. I want and I'm I mean I I realize that. you know we talk about conspiracy and. stuff the reason why you don't hear. about fasting is because nobody makes. money with it it's not no pills yeah but. it's really worth investigating of. course ask your doctor but man it. changes my life and I just wish I would.

have known this before really it really. did so you've used it in other facets. too it you know when you need it it it. works for everything like sometime you. have an injury like say tendonitis and. tendonitis often it's related to. inflammation you know all inflammation. disease when you fast it take away the. inflammation and and and if all the. stuff that I that I had regarding. inflammation like a toe one of my toes I. had a problem with one of my toes to it. was hurting me for years when I started. doing my fasting it kind of disappeared.

yeah yeah it we don't think about that. we always think more more more like a. more medicine more anything more more of. this diet I thought the same thing. before I was like oh protein shake this. because I was trying to gain weight when. I fought Bisping and and I realized man. I was doing the everything wrong and and. we always think about the punch in we. don't think about the punch out like we. were saying we don't think about the. inverse of it it's insane and and I. remember I I had a chance to go to uh. Kenya. uh.

tanzia Kenya Masai Mar I met a tribe of. uh of uh Hunter getter oh yeah those. Brothers can jump huh yeah but these. guys man sometime they they spend three. four days without eating and it's normal. they're used to it and if you see their. old people compared to our old people. they're much more he healthier they they. look much more much better and the. reason why people people will tell me. now oh yeah but they have a shorter life. expect expectancy than us yes it's.

because of the a lot of the child die. before the age of adulthood oh I see so. the numbers they die when they're young. yeah child child child how do you say in. English the starvation or neglect no no. no no they got they got like disease or. then the hospital is too far away you. have to you have to drive like 5 Hour. you know well that right there if. something once they pass a certain point. if you look at their their old people. and are old people they they much they. look much better oh our old people look. like [ __ ] A lot of them to be honest no.

offense but a lot of them you know I've. had a couple of grandparents and they. were mid I thought but uh but what makes. us live that long it's not because of. our healthy lifestyle it's because of. our technology or most of us right. that's true huh that's what's saving us. most of the time it's not us doing. anything yeah when I was a kid for. example I had like a uh it's called in. French convulsion fibril it's a when. you're a baby you're you have a rise of. temp. so what your body does it shut shut. itself down and it it go into a coma.

like this and it happened to me when I. was young my mom told me if I would not. have technology I was brought back. brought to the hospital and they put me. on a artificial coma and everything on. plugs and and if I would not have have. that technology I would have not been. here with you today so I'm I'm I'm alive. today because of our technology. technology but what do you but how you. treat the life you have is up to you as. well if if you don't have technology. Maybe 50% of us would not [ __ ] cook. dude I'd be out probably a lot of my.

family would be gone um oh yeah like. infant mortality rates that's you're. talking because they have Hunter tribe. in in uh in Africa they have a much. higher infant mortality rate than than. us and that's what lowered their their. life expectancy you know um when you. look at some of the fights did you watch. the Bal fight the other night did you. watch the fights I did yeah man you. think it was fair to make them fight it. at that hour in the morning over there. or is that just fighting well it's fair. it's it's it's it's fair or unfair for.

both of them equally good point if it's. equal it's equal you know like like I. don't care you know if you have to make. them cross the desert before or swim or. doing a tri they both do it they have to. do it it's fair uh it's not the best. condition in terms of performance but if. both guys do it it's a fair it was 6. a.m. there when they when they started. that main event but man I was I was. surprised he he he performed very well. I'm friend with uh Leon Edwards and he's.

so he's such a nice guy I when I went in. to England uh a few like like a year and. a half ago I remember I I went out with. him and uh Usain Bo we had a great. [Applause]. time man he's such a he's such a nice. guy I I really like him he's he's great. athlete but he's got a great great. personality too and man I'm sure he's. going to come back and it'd be. interesting to see I think it's it. really sets up for a nice surprise like. you I don't think a lot of people. expected it what were the odds on it.

Nick Leon was minus 300 yeah so I think. a lot of people didn't expect it so I. think it adds just yeah it adds to the. sport you know makes it exciting I was. very surprised by belal like like his. transition the way because he doesn't. fight like that all the time sometime. just is mostly a striker or you know. what I mean like for that man he was on. point like for that fight he was like. really on point it was like wow it was. yeah I thought it was super impressive. it was really cool to watch um it made.

me just kind of realize even yeah I. didn't expect that much diversity from. him um is this what he said Bal wants to. be greater than GSP for his. legacy all definit definitely can if he. you know you keep working hard and uh. you. know all records are made to be broken. you know and uh do you look back at the. times when you like the era or it's not. really an era I mean it wasn't long that. long ago but when you look at the time. when you were fighting right would you.

rather be fighting in this era do you. love the era you were fighting in do you. ever think about it in spaces like. that I think I was extremely lucky to. fight in my era it could have been. better if I would have fought today it. would have made maybe more money because. of the social media and all that but it. could have been way worse if I look at. uh like in the time of ho Gracie Dan. Mark Coleman Don fry these guys were the.

real guys man they were fighting two. three time a. night no rules no weight class man that. was insane Ken Shamrock um for me I I I. I I respect these guys a lot because. they they paved their way for all of us. and they they didn't make money man it's. sad they didn't make money man were. tough as hell is there a um like a union. or something something that pays for. stuff for the pioneers of it no there's.

not wow I think it's a question of time. I mean yeah cuz we say that question of. time some some guys they trying to to do. it it got close but then they always. fighting for power they want to be in. control certain group want to be in. control and others are wants to take. more power than I mean we all wants the. same we all want the same thing you know. at the end of the day and and I think. it's like every sport in hockey baseball. it's it's a matter of time things were. the same if you look at other sport they. were the same guys were underpaid they.

their condition were not good they. didn't have any Assurance nothing like. that and you know over time it got. better I think it's only a matter of. time the only difference in um in mixed. martial art UFC as the mon the Monopoly. it's it's a monopoly they it's right. there's one show really well they have. PB uh well yeah but it's the most the. most uh pfl yeah pfl is there gr which. is very good pfl is good because it's a. competition to UFC but. UFC is the most prestigious organization.

and and pfl start to gain a lot of. momentum but which is good for Fighters. because it gives them the ability to. negotiate but when you have only one. organization that has the all the. monopole all the control it's hard for. Fighters you know to understood is. pornography causing a problem in your. life that's a good question it's a real. question it has in mind it has at. certain periods in my life. uh watching porno and everything and. watching porno was making me it was.

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another fight that's so great that you. and Bisping got to fight that must been. V's a fun dude huh yeah he's crazy he's. crazy dude he's such a good villain it's. it's ins yes he is because he knows what. he's doing it's like he's really kind of. uh he seems to be a guy that's enjoyed. enjoyed it along the way yeah he's got a. he's got a mouth that can decimate all. all his. opponent yeah that's a lot of fun man. I'm not going to get into a trash talk. battle with this guy he's an English man.

we speak English perfectly I'm like my. English suck I'm like what am I going to. do with this I'm just not also not good. at at you know like insulting but also. knowing that that's not your strength I. think was one of your strengths you know. knowing where to. like I don't know you always really had. kind of a Precision it seemed like for. the choices you made um did you you. looked at it as a business I've heard. you talk about it before you know you. looked at it really as a business. especially if it wasn't something that. you even enjoyed on the fight nights um.

were you able to pull any like real joy. out of it over time like or was it all. when when you finally got done was it. just like oh thank God like it was a. release when I got done but but. but I I had great moment a great memory. of it like I I it it was a lot of fun. when you. win when you win a fight man you look. back at it and you're thinking like man. everything is worth it you know it was. all worth it but when you lose man oh.

God it's ah it's a crazy downfall it's. that's what makes it so so so hard it's. the the risk bigger the risk bigger the. reward right you a perfectionist do you. think then kind of yeah I I I I was. crazy I I was obsessed everything I did. was always oriented to trying to make me. the best fighter everything everything I. did it was it the best fighter or the. best person or the best like best. fighter best fighter F person I I I just.

you know like I was not trying to make. make a be being a character I was like. some guy they tried to be sort of some. sort of a character you know like some. some good guy tried to be bad guy you. see that very often or some you know. some bad guy sort of try to be nice in. front of the camera but when the camera. doesn't roll they they they become some. douchebag you you see that a lot and and. when you meet celebr it is but but uh I. always try to be true to to myself and.

focus on on performance you know because. at the end of the day I never hate I. never had any personal beef with any of. my opponent he's a human being and when. I when I look across the Octagon before. I. fight I sort of feel like I Look to. myself in a mirror because that guy. maybe did the similar sacrifice that I. did so if I disrespect him it's sort in. in the same in a way it's like I'm. disrespect respecting myself so for me. it was just I was just extremely lucky.

even the guy was talking a lot of trash. and stuff I was lucky to have sort of. that moment to shine and and you know to. to to that people were aware and I make. money with it and and you know for me. after when it's finished it's finished. it's not personal and there's none of. the guy the guy that I thought that if. they would be in trouble today I would. not hesitate one second to help them. like if if I if they are my reach I. would not hesitate one second to help. any of them and I this I I mean it yeah.

that's fascinating to look at your. opponent and think that what if they. made the same sacrifices as I did then. what what else can I even do that's a. dude that's such an intense way to look. at at the other side of the per at the. other person across from you well but. it's not only like they make the same. sacrifice but maybe they didn't have the. the same opportunities that opens to. them maybe they were not as lucky as I. was yeah I think the Stars need to be. Aly I think some life sometimes opens. certain opportunities to you that if you.

wait too much the door will close and. it's gone forever and uh yeah I think. it's some of that's true I mean you look. at the Diaz brothers I mean if you look. you know Nick took a time off of. fighting for years well they made him. quit though didn't they make him yeah he. got suspended. forh and he refused to pay the fine and. couldn't fight for 5 years exactly yeah. and that's one of the that's what a. waste he was in his prime I think he. could have maybe beat Champion like when.

I retired I was telling people I was. like man if he doesn't he should P push. on the gas right now and go man that's. his time he should he should do it was. there a time when has there been a like. a fighter or something since then you. look you're like man it would have been. fun to fight them or do you have like. moments like that there's a lot of guys. that I wish we would have fight you know. and and and that would be big fight it. would have made a story but but. you know like it takes three entity to. make a fight it takes one Fighter the.

other fighter it takes the the promoter. as well and. um very often the the the promoter. didn't reach our demands you know what I. mean and uh it everything needs to be. align for for the the tree the tree. entities yeah I know people always talk. about you and khabib fighting you know. did that interest you kind of so it was. the fight that I would have come back. for uh at the time not now now time I've. passed but but uh after I retired it was.

one fight I would have you know I would. have had to go I would have been kib and. what was the most what Challen what. excited you about that the most I mean. obviously he was undefeated so he's. undefeated he's got a perfect career. he's the the competit the competitor. inside of me would have done would have. take the the fight you know yeah. uh you know and that's one of the fact I. would have I would have done it you know. like like but but it needed to be a at. the right time and and and when it was. time to do it UFC didn't want to do it.

yeah so they wait a few years after when. we were both. retired and the train was was passed. yeah the moment was gone and when they. asked when Dana called. me I said I thought it was weird I was. like are you like is kabib want to fight. want to fight he said because he said no. in all interview said no no he's he's. he's down he's down I'm like okay let me. think about it I'll get back to you and.

I thought it was weird so I called his. manager Ali AB as is and Ali said hey. man the timing is not good it's [ __ ]. it's not true and after I I I've said. I've told the media what happened and. then I went I don't do Tre Tre three. people calls when I and I thought it was. hilarious but because he's right you. know he's not going to call a guy and. say hey no the other guy doesn't want no. that's not business exactly he's a. promoter he's going to say this guy said. this this this about you would do you.

want to fight him and you want to take. you want to use the emotions to to make. you tune in and it's like you it's like. playing your mom against your dad it's. like hey Dad mom said I can do this and. then you go to hey Mom Dad said I can do. this neither one of them said they could. but now you're outside playing exactly. it's all a game it's all a freaking game. and and it's a lot of pressure I think. on Dana probably I bet it's a lot of. pressure because not only is he the. promoter but he's also you have to. answer all the questions and in business. he's in control of a business yeah it's.

not up to him if someone sign a contract. that suck he's not going to say Hey you. worth more money you should have you. know what I mean man man he's a. businessman he's going to take it and. take advantage of you so it's it's not. because what I'm saying is it's not he's. a aded is a good guy I I've I've met him. and when you met him of course met him. many times but I met him while I was. competing so I when I was competing and. then I called me I always before I hang.

up the phone I was like. [ __ ] take a hit Hill try to think of. what is the possible thing that he's. going to ask me because you need to be. quick when he call you you don't want to. say something or you just you don't you. don't answer or you you you're like. you're always like because this is a. game it's a chess game man with a fight. game everything you say everything you. do is going to have a an outcome so. you're like okay what he's going to say. this is it then you prepare if you're. ready you take the call if you're not. ready you let okay I'm going to prepare.

myself that's how it is let me call Mike. Brown let me get a somebody to massage. me during the during the off rounds but. but but the the thing the thing with. Dana is my relation has changed over the. year because now it's more friendly he. calls me I'm not even gonna hesitate to. say hey D what's up like whatever I'm. ready for any anything but when I was. fighting it's normal to have that. reaction be like because he's the boss. and you know whatever you he going to. ask you whatever you say it's going to. be the whole world going to know so you. cannot retract what you said so when he.

calls you when I was fighting I was like. [ __ ] some i s certain instance I was. like man I'm not thinking the call right. now or I'm gonna call him back think. about what it could strategy yeah yes. yeah yeah exactly it's almost like when. your boss says what are you up to this. weekend right. you now if your boss but your boss they. want you to work at 4:30 on Saturday. right and you do not want to but if you. tell them that you're oh nothing much. then you're halfway to working right.

yeah so yeah it's interesting when. you're the owner it's also hard to be I. bet at times it's probably maybe not I'm. not putting words in his mouth or. anything but I bet it's tough for him to. also be a person yeah you know and maybe. it's easier after the fact because. running a business is totally different. than um being a human being sometimes he. he he takes a lot of eat sometime and he. does a lot of stuff that he needs to do. for the best of of the business of best. of the UFC interest and it's normal that. he's running a business and it's worked.

out because look at the UFC is created. opportunity opportunities for so many. guys we I had a lot of clash with Dana. when I was uh you did I didn't even I. didn't even know that no no we we did we. did had a lot of clash clashes when when. I was fighting because I I attained a. certain level of of power that he. couldn't control me as much all the. other some of the guys he could say he. you do this oh yeah yes sir like me it's. like no it's not going to work because I. I was I was making him a lot of profit a.

lot of uh a lot of money so when you you. know there's a lot of things that they. ask me and I and I said hell no I'm not. doing because it's not for the best of. my interest right so when the same thing. when you NE get negotiate for a fight my. my thing was like if I'm negotiate for a. big fight why am I going to do all the. interviews all the the promotion if I. don't touch a piece of the pie you know. what I mean so give me a piece of the. pie so it will encourage me to do more. promotion yeah because if you don't.

touch any piece of piece of the pie if. you don't have nothing why am I going to. do this gonna I'm just GNA waste my time. while I'm supposed to train and rest I'm. going to do inter like and your time has. become more valuable because uh you're. the champion you know yeah there's I. think there's it's interesting when you. get to a certain level how um the. negotiations kind of change you know. fascinating you have to be uh to to to. look at it and that way and were you. able to get like pay-per-view points and. stuff back then in your fights yeah I'm.

very like congratulations man yeah thank. you but the thing is there's a lot of. guys in the business that in this. industry that are not well uh managed. you know they they they they they don't. ask for what they worth and and they. they're kind of afraid or or you know. they don't take right decision and it's. not Dana's job to say hey I think you. should ask for a raise or it's he's not. going to do that he's the bus he he he's. on the other side of the so the the. fight game you're fighting for a.

contract this should be your manager's. fight you have someone that look for the. best of your interest and that's one one. fight and the F the other fight is in. the Octagon yeah so well it's. fascinating you know I think that a lot. of that happens with art when art or. Talent turns into business there's this. other element that comes on you know and. sometimes you have to trust your. instincts and sometimes they're right. and sometimes they're wrong but that's. how you hone your instincts to be. sharper too is by using them you know. and um and yeah I bet It's Tricky. probably for Dana because I bet there's.

a lot of guys that he super cares about. and and but he also has to run a. business you know so I can't imagine. that's got to be um it's got to be. tricky you know and I think also you. hear the nicest stuff like you'll hear. like all the stuff he does from his. employees or places that he tries to. help out during Co he didn't he didn't. lay off and nobody it's amazing oh he's. I called him the other day asking him. for some help with something you know I. know that um so you know he's a great. guy I think he's also a great. businessman 100% great person he's a.

great guy and and Fighters like I mean. guys that are listening to us now they. when they're they're in middle of a. competition you know like like when. they're they're competing they might be. they might not have that relationship. with Dana because Dana is on the other. side so it's always like a fight. relationship but once they're going to. retire they're going to see a total. different person you know like and same. thing with the F brother like uh these. guy they all great guys you know and and. and um every time I meet them you know. it's hey what's up big they know brother.

all these yeah we're all friend here. everything we did the clashes that we. had it was because we were fighting for. the best of our interest and it's normal. it's just business and I think if you. want to be successful in in especially. as an athlete in mix Mar you need to. build a team yeah you can't do all that. by yourself because you don't you don't. have all the the the the the the. credential to do all the jobs you need. to to have lawyers you need to find a.

team of people that you can trust and. people that have competence because. sometime people they hire people who. trust but they turned out to be. incompetent it's bad because it's going. to make you buy it's going to make you. do like a uh how do you say like air air. bike you know they're not going to. you're GNA be you're not gonna go. forward you're gonna SP spin yeah and if. you have someone who's competent but. someone that you cannot trust maybe he. going to he's going to he's going to.

screw screw you in down the road you. know it's tough man run starting to run. a business work with people it's it's. hard but then you also like I mean I one. thing is like people criticize Dana in. the UFC but no other promotion has been. able to sustain itself and establish. itself and make it go that you know and. flourish um so I think it's um it's. fascinating and I think it is I think. he'll be studied one day in the sense by. business people of I mean I can't even. imagine cuz you have so many guys that.

are really putting their lives on the. line and then you have you know I I just. can't imagine it's got to be a lot you. know um what what keeps you busy these. days dude do you still get those. dinosaur updates remember you were. always uh yeah I love uh paleontology. yeah what is it about it you think that. you love I was thinking about this the. other day I um when I was young I was. always fascinated by uh by dinosaurs and. actually when I took my my time off. after my fight with Johnny andricks I.

spent four years like I was always. training but I spent time I went on. different uh sites no way yeah I I I you. know I I I'm very lucky because a lot of. the it turns out that a lot of the big. pelles that I've met they're fan of. mixed martial art really yeah so I was. able to have special access on different. different prob most of joh Bones Jones. you would think you know I'm just. guessing. that's no it was incredible I I I. traveled across the world I went on.

different sites but I realized also. something as much as I love paleontology. I realized that I would never be I would. never be able to do this because I. thought that if I would not be a fighter. I would have maybe be a paleontologist. and no that's not true I would not never. be able to be on a dig site for hours. like like meticulous it ain't me no I. can't I love to acquire the knowledge. but would not have the patience to to go. out there I I saw some incredible sites. I I went in man I went in a in a in a.

place in an area in in Argentina in. pentagonia it was in the morning the sun. rises and I could see I'm not kidding. you like thousands of dinosaurs eggshell. they were eggshell of titanosaurs the. long neck dinosaurs oh yeah man it was. insane and you had to watch to not step. on it like fossilized eggshells some of. them were broken so that means the the. animal was about to to to get out it was.

insane like I I saw some of the crazy. just sight and that was a dig that they. were doing they were digging they were. inating like egg shell I saw like I I. went on a place and I think it was in in. dakot it was um it was with a professor. I think it was Professor Pearson it was. a they they don't know what it was but. they found a a sort of a graveyard of. tricerat. Dakota I think it was South Dakota or. Wyoming yeah try Triceratops it was from.

the late Cretaceous and you could see. that the some of the leg bone of. Triceratops that were sliced because of. Tyrannosaurus Rex yeah so they found. Tyrannosaurus rex teeth there it was. just insane so you were a promoter. really when you goes back to the to the. pan theological ages dude you were a. damn promoter bro you'd have put some of. those things in the ring bro I think man. maybe one day we'll be able to I think. they want to resurrect the the mammoth. now I think to put it back in si yeah.

they they didn't they say they can. recreate a Willie Mammoth did I read. that somewhere I think they're going to. use Asian elephant uh a wig or whatever. put a mammoth inside and uh yeah try to. recreate it yeah put it in put put put. it in Siberia well what weight class is. that going to be well there there's. different species of mammut there's. Willie mammut Master uh Colombian mammut. so depend which which species want to I. think it's a willly m they want to bring. back let me see a biotech company that. hopes to resurrect extinct species said.

Wednesday that it has reached an. important Milestone the creations of a. long-sought kind of stem cell for the. closest living relative of the woolly. mammoth um and now the company says. scientists have For the First Time. created induced plur poent stem cells. for the mammoth's closest living. relative Asian elephants oh. damn um it says scientists can now you. try to use cloning techniques and Gene. editing to manipulate manipulate the. cells in hopes of someday creating.

elephants with key traits of mammoths. wow so kind of like a uh a bit of a. remix kind of such as their heavy coats. and their layers of fat that enable them. to survive in cold climates dude that's. what the zoo needs cuz honestly dude the. zoo some of the animals are [ __ ] not. even in America some of the animals are. smoking they don't even care you know. they're not even it's sad when you you. don't see them in their natural. environment yeah. in a way they do it of course because. it's not accessible to everyone for. example if you want to see a lion you go.

to Africa it costs a lot of money but to. see you know you know I've been in zoos. before and I like to see animals in. their natural environment you know you. could to take any take any animals are. there any animals you think you could. take man we're so weak man and nature. it's crazy apparently they say that even. a chimp would would kill you yeah that's. what they say I can just pull your. [ __ ] balls yeah pulls your ball break. break your fingers and and and uh rip. your face you know that when they go on.

crime scenes uh where chimps turns turns. against the human that's what happened. it's crazy man I would hate that because. you cannot reproduce you cannot climb. away and they take away your. identity I went in Rwanda I had a chance. to do a gorilla tricking and you see. them like I'm seeing you so nuh this. close yeah yeah that close so when you. go there it's like Randa yeah in Rwanda. in Africa it's in East Africa and you.

take a you take a car it's about 2 hours. away from Kali which is I think the. capital you go there and they give you a. course they tell you don't eat don't. don't if the gorilla look at you don't. look him in the eyes if he if he comes. towards you don't run away just get out. of the way and put your knee on the. floor in a submissive pause uh don't. talk loud don't ever touch the the. female and the you the the the kid and. when I went there it was amazing I oh. yeah is this it nck yeah yeah that's.

what it is yeah yeah oh my God yeah. that's okay so this guy let me tell you. about this one why did you dress for a. funeral too listen to guys guys this is. very interesting so you see what. happened okay so at during one instant. during my my my adventure there I was. with I was with I was with with. different people that were older than me. and I don't know what happened at one. point the gorilla because what happened. is you hang out with the the kids and.

the the female and you know the young. and once once every 20 or 15 minute the. the big silver back comes and he make a. noise and the the guy that is with you. every day he sees the same the same. family so he's used to see the same. guide but the the tourists change so the. the guide always answer back to tell hey. we're here so he comes and sometime he. look around to see everything is okay. and then he goes back in the fors every.

10 minutes approximately but one once he. came and he looked at me did you have. your belt with you no no man he looked. at me and when he looked at me I look I. look at him just very fast and he start. walking towards me like he was pissed. man I got out of the way and I put my. knees down and I'm not a religious guy. at all but I became religious at that so. I was like please please please please. and then I open my eyes he's not in. front of me I look behind I see his back.

he he put his backs against me he. explained to me the the reason why the. gorilla he turned his back to me is. because he wanted to show me how much. I'm not of a threat for him wow to show. you like he turned his back and he. looked underneath his arm so when I look. back I was like man I saw his back it. was just a treat a test I was like man. he would have even with all my years of. training he would have ripped me apart. man did you feel like you stood any. chance even you think he could have got. it to two rounds or no I I read a a. document uh apparently it's a report in.

I think it's in Uganda I read there's a. military guy that a gorilla grab and he. he pull he rip his head off like this. like it straight up from a horror movie. you grab him and it's that strong so. there's nothing you can do man but what. would you have done you think I I think. I would have tried to play it there. there's nothing you can do if he wants. to to kill you the the the guy the guy. the guy has two guy with him with the. AK-47 so they help no no but you know he.

told me it's not because of the gorilla. it's in case we we see an elephant or a. c Buffalo apparently there is it's so. dense I don't understand apparently. sometime we you could run run through a. c Buffalo and they they're extremely. territorial was that scarier than Bea in. the cage well it it happens so fast it's. very different because it happens so. fast that you don't have time to prepare. so you just. go with the flow so I didn't even have. time to be scared that much I was just I.

was trying I was like man please please. please then I. look [ __ ] he's in the back and I see his. back and I could see the muscle through. the f I was like man it's so massive. it's insane ke Peterson's just standing. there that' be crazy man it was one of. the most incredible adventure of my life. uh I recommend it to everyone and the. money that you pay for that that. Adventure is given to the the gorilla. and now the gorilla in in Rwanda in that. part of the world are are flourishing.

again oh it's beautiful so it's it's a. beautiful thing yeah it is awesome to. take care of our planet and to give back. to it you know because it's funny CU. somebody probably saw a gorilla one day. and even thought about getting in shape. for the first time you know what I'm. saying you just don't know what we learn. from animals you know um what what keeps. you busy these days man well I'm in I'm. involved with uh I have a a home fitness. equipment brand called Bas block Pro uh. it's a oh really all kinds of apparel. that you can use and train at home is. Canada or us as well can Aesthetics all.

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especially kinesthetics is what yeah. gymnastics uh your own body weight yes. exactly so you you have less risk of. injuries and I think it's more efficient. in base blocks yes oh sweet man I got to. get something else for my home I'm just. getting a um treadmill so I got to have. something else for when uh I can't go. down to the gym I'll send you some I. tell my guy I'll hook you I'll. yeah tell me which one you like I I. recommend you the big bar Pro this one. you put if you have a backyard put in. your backyard it's it's outdoor friendly.

and if you want like for your legs this. one is very good you you for Ram string. oh I don't care about the legs homie I'm. up top only no I'll send you some stuff. I'll tell tell the guy to send you some. so you'll be more than happy um are. there some Fighters right now that you. love to watch you kind of cheer on do. you find yourself being a fan of MMA. still I mean oh yeah I mean I know it's. obviously been such a huge part of your. life I don't know if it's something you. just kind of close or if it's something. that always in you kind of one thing. that has changed and now there's so many. fights there's almost every weekend so I.

I can't watch it all I can't watch all. the shows but but but I I I love to. watch some of the guys that I I can. learn from I like to watch Tom aspel oh. yeah he's fun the F the fight of of last. weekend balal Mohamed Leon Edwards I. watch it um I like Kamar rman ad Desa. wowski makev I like to to watch the best. best so I can learn from them is it. weird to look at them and be like that. was me like cuz I think even as a. comedian I'll watch Comedy sometimes and.

I'll be like it doesn't seem like like I. know it's different person but it. doesn't even seem like that's my job. does that ever happen to you do you ever. have like like this Clark Kent feeling. when you're walking down the street that. you're also Superman I mean no I think. uh what made me good is because I. possess certain set of skills that made. me unique but some of the guys that are. competing now they have their own set of. skills yeah and I think I can learn from. them you know by watching them I'm.

learning from them and you know of. course maybe they can learn from me or. or so it's impossible to be. completely 100% well-rounded you always. have certain things that you do better. than than than others and that's why I. like the sport so much some guys are. better for example at at grapplings one. guy is his strength might be uh is. ground and pound one guy might be his. submission skills one guy might be his. you know like Perera he's got an. incredible left hook un we all know he's.

got a left hook but nobody they all know. the left hook is coming but they don't. know how to stop it yeah it's crazy and. left H is one of the most fundamental. punch that you learn in day one and it. works it's one of the most basic weapon. but he does it so well he hides it he. hides it so well and the the way he does. it even though it's so basic nobody can. stop it it's crazy that's that's. fascinating almost isn't it how.

something simple can be and so obvious. in a way can be so surprising he use. different diversion different uh. distraction to to get it on it's it's. crazy and that's what I like about the. sport it's like a chess game you know. yeah oh it's fascinating too I think as. uh you know I've been a fan now like a. big fan for probably maybe almost six or. seven years now um and you get to know. the fighters more a little bit too on a.

personal you know like because there's. so much social media you get to know. more about them and kind of cheer from. them in different ways and stuff um but. there's all types there guys who were. outspoken there's guys who were kind of. reserved there's guys who are playing. cat and mouse and there's guys who were. just about getting in the ring um have. do you have you gotten into anything. else. competitive uh is there something else. that you do I I used to when I was young. I used to play chess you really yeah I. growing up I was more of a more of a. nerd you know at school and uh I was I I.

was victim of bullying at school so. that's why I F I start uh martial art I. start karate at a young age as a. self-defense yeah yeah then later on it. develop into a passion passion to. transform into a way I make a living you. should pull up on those guys right. now awesome dude but I used to I. remember in order to to miss school I. was I was I was enrolling into chess. comption because I was I was. representing my school and then once you. win the school you go to re how do you.

say like the regional and then once you. I go to Regional you go to Montreal. where it's the provincial and I never I. never made it past that oh I I won the. school I won the regional but when I. went to monal I I never even won a match. in in the the preventure because these. guy that they that's what they do you. know that's their you know me just doing. that for fun and I was a kid back then. so it was fun yeah well you found other. ways to win man um oh yeah the Olympics.

are going on oh that's a yeah the the. Olympic man it's crazy the this big like. people like now they talk about the the. what happened in the the controversy the. the with the woman and fighter you mean. yeah no they they talk about the the the. the ceremony the opening ceremony oh. yeah they thought it was anti- Catholic. yes like I I I I. I was in Miami uh when that happened and. I saw in the news I was I was like man. I'm going to try to watch it but now.

they took out they took it out of. YouTube so you can't I don't think you. can see it anymore that's crazy so I um. I tried to I tried to find a way but I. just saw some part of it and I speak. French I was like God damn I was like oh. yeah I mean it's weird I try to not be. politic but there are certain things. that man it's like is there keep it at. home you know like don't have to to show. the world you know I don't care who you. sleep with what you do I mean I I like. you as a person if you know what I mean. yeah this seems a little crazy for the. Olympics I think yeah yeah it changes.

that that's one thing that changed over. the year like we didn't have that before. you know what this is kind of it seems. crazy like maybe the world is so crazy. that I don't even know the world anymore. that's what I start to wonder too. sometimes yeah but yeah this stuff seems. like what are we do what sport is this. yeah it's that's what I don't know it's. just what sport is it but I mean I. probably you know I don't know it's a. different time I mean I don't know what. to make of it I mean it's dark Forces at. play it feels like sometimes I I I I am.

not you like going down the conspiracy. Rabbit Hole though it's fun and and also. the crazy part about the conspiracies is. remember during like pandemic like they. said all these things and and they half. of them were true and it was like well. [ __ ] I I uh I was very angry about. what was going on in in uh in Canada I. didn't like the way it was uh it was uh. run uh during the pandemic I was very. pissed off I I didn't like it I I I.

think it was an attack on our freedom uh. we had curfew and this and this I'm Not. Afraid some people like oh you shouldn't. become a political this this is not. right this this this is about I think is. about freedom I I was I was not happy. about what the decision that were made I. think it was an attack on the freedom. and and I think everybody should have. had the the decision of choosing. the right to make the decision do I want. to be vaccinated or not and but if. you're not vaccinated you're not allowed.

to do this do this like man life this. this was wrong I I I don't agree with. that decision yeah it feel it started to. feel like privatized communism to me in. a way it's like you know they it's like. the bait of the government but really. it's like private entities doing it and. I wish I'd spoken up more I think there. were times for me you know I just felt. like kind of scared or I didn't feel. Brave or I didn't know some things they. would have canceled you but that's crazy. cancel you that's that's a thing that's. that's a thing about it it's I mean it. depend in Nashville I don't know.

Nashville Tennessee right yeah yeah they. can't they can't really can't see that. much there yeah but in Canada that was. like it's different like people people. don't understand but it was different we. had a curfew we it was crazy like uh man. I couldn't get out of the country I I. had business to do you know my business. is international I had to travel so I. had no choice I I did it but I think it. I think I was not agree with the. decision yeah and is my right to say so. right but if I would have said it at the. time maybe they would have like put down.

my Instagram put down all my my stuff I. know that's what's it's it really feels. like big Tech is kind of the government. now you know but um man it's just an. honor to sit down with such a uh. Champion these days and uh just get to. have a chance to spend time with you uh. George and um do you you know they have. a thing in the Olympics right now they. have a boxer who they who. has like oh yeah it's a female boxer. right and but she um she was born a.

female and is a female let me say her. name Iman khif yeah Algeria fromer khif. and um and she's crushing it and she. hasn't won all of her fights and um but. there's people it's been a huge uproar. online because I guess she had higher. testosterone levels and she wasn't. allowed to compete in the world boxing. championships um do you think at some. point cuz this just appears to be. something that kind of happens more. where there's some gray area in between.

gender right do you think they should. just have a a new. division well well what what this I. don't know enough information about that. particular situation to give an opinion. on it because I'm I. might but one thing I can tell you when. a a man is born when you're born as a. man and then you change your sex and. there then after you go compete as a. woman this I think is disgusting yeah.

this I'm not afraid to say it and stand. up for for that because I love women and. I and I think I they need to be. protected especially in combat sport. this I'm not agree with this I agree I. want everybody to have equal to be to. have the equal right but when you have a. someone who's born as a man who changes. sex as a woman and then compete I think. he should have his his own category. right that would be fair because. otherwise it's unfair we're different. like I mean why okay I'm gonna I'm G to.

change my sex and go compete in the UFC. and make a comeback in the woman. division what you think going to happen. you know crazy I you know what I mean. it's it's not fair you know maybe some. of them will kick my ass but I think I. will do pretty well you know he might. yeah and might give you a run there's a. couple ladies out there that would give. you a run but I agree they and they. should solve it I think it's not fair. also if people are dealing with this. their own sexual identity they don't. know create a new division so that they. can be there and be the pioneers of a. new division you know it's like then.

that way it's like they're getting to be. a part of something new they're getting. to fight against likeminded um people I. don't know but I agree with you I agree. they they should have a their own. Division I I think uh if you're born in. in a different gender uh because man. it's really not fair people have no idea. the difference but man it's it's huge. difference I mean it's it's a huge. difference oh God it's it's a we've seen. in in in tennis you know like I think is. it uh I think it's Serena Williams she. played tennis against oh yeah she got it.

you know and it has it was done in. boxing too with um a few time with the. the she's a Dutch uh champion in. kickboxing she she fought a man in. boxing and you know and this these like. in tennis is different because it's a. game basketball it's a game but when. it's combat sport I think it we should. unbeliev should protect protect uh. protect our female woman woman and the. men should speak up for that you know. the men should speak up for that you. know that that problem sometime when you.

speak up to that you get Point by the. finger and H this is unfair but that's. the media that's [ __ ] they're sick. but here is um there's a fight in BJJ. actually in is it this a uh Craig Jones. Invitational he's doing his tournament. the same weekend as ADCC and the main. event is going to be him vers Gabby. Garcia oh so now this though they're. both. agreeing that they want to do it I'm. sorry for my ignorance is Gabby Garcia.

is is a female she she's born she's a. female female like she's is not like. she's okay okay okay but lots of help. yeah yeah of course a lot of enhancement. okay wow but is he is it like a like a. novelty fight sort of or or more like a. he's competing against the ADCC so he's. doing to get all the eyeballs on it he's. doing it the same weekend it's. interesting yeah because Craig Jones is. one of the best Grappler of the planet I.

me I wonder so he's probably gonna I. mean I don't know I I don't know enough. about Gabby so yeah I I I I I heard. about that event that it was like a. million dooll. event and in the same time as the Abu. Dhabi event but I don't know all the all. the detail on it wow oh my God okay that. that's her yeah that is her my gosh boy. I am she's bigger than him right I got.

to get to the gym. um oh but Craig Jones is one of the best. one of the best it should be interesting. can can what about just in ju-jitsu can. women compete as well in there if. there's not. striking well they can compete women. against woman but against man it's still. well look the strength the strength is. different and and there's a lot of. factor too I mean I'm not a a a. specialist in that but the the bone. density there's a lot of factors I mean.

there's things I first I think women are. better than men they can give birth and. there's we couldn't we couldn't endure. that like women are better than men you. know yeah dude this what I believe but. there's one thing that we we have better. than one we have normally we're more. physically Stronger Yeah and we have. certain advantage and that's why there. is different category there's there's. man and woman and that's why you know to. make it fair but.

uh the same thing of course if you take. a woman for example who's who has a lot. of. experience made make her fight a man who. does not have any experience the woman. can kick his ass 100% but if you go to. the elite level it will. be it would be pretty unlikely yeah yeah. it'd be interesting though yeah now that. kind of stuff I think is a little bit. more you know it's like we're both. agreeing to do this thing you know um. Rush man thanks so much dude I'm than.

you man so cool uh thank you for having. me man I'm really awesome and just just. really cool to be in the presence of um. somebody that's achieved such greatness. in their life that got in and got out. and um yeah do you have any other big. goals in your life right now do you feel. like well I you feel pretty content or. does that Evol does that does does a. person that's a perfectionist kind of. I'm kind of a. too I think do you ever get content do. you feel. like I never I'm never satisfied now I'm. more of an entrepreneur now and and.

that's my goal I'm I'm very lucky I was. able to transfer. that that hunger that I had in in mixed. martial art I wanted to be the best be. the champion now I transfer it into you. know into a business you know and or. into my person I wanted to be a better. person and you know I'm happy you know. like if things go well for me I have. enough to live for the rest of my life. and I if I don't go crazy and then you. know what I mean I'm try to be happy I.

think the ultimate goal right for. everyone is to be happy oh for sure. there's different ways that you can use. to attain that that that feeling was is. to be happy you know and I'm uh right. now I'm very happy I'm healthy I'm happy. and uh are your parents pretty proud of. you yeah they're very happy um my parent. and in the beginning they didn't want me. to fight they uh and I understand them I. it's it's not something that you want uh. that you it's not a life that you wish.

for someone you love you know most kids. you tell them not to fight man I'm I'm. going to tell you something that. happened to me all the time there is. parent that comes to me with their kids. and they're like hey George this is the. future world champion and I'm and then I. go oh hi I how old are you he's like. yeah he's 12 years old oh yeah you you. trained martial art said yeah it's good. but remember something stay at school. man and you need to be educated that's. your number one priority and the problem.

that a lot of athlete and and and not. only in in MMA in in everything in know. Canada we have a lot of that example in. hockey but it could be basketball. football a lot of athlet they put their. eggs all in the same basket oh yeah so. they all want they all dream to be a. professional athlete but something. happen they get hit by a car boom or. they get an injury like they they break. their ACL or their knee or something. happened now their career is is gone. they're never going to come back the. same and what happened if if that.

incident happen when you're like in your. late 20s there's nothing that you can. fall back into if you don't have school. there's nothing so it's an assurance I. quit I quit school when I was fighting. Matt us before my fight with Matt us so. I was my parent forced me to stay at. school to stay educated and it was one. of the best thing they they did cuz you. quit college then oh I I wanted to quit. everything I but I was studying in in. kinesiology okay and uh but I didn't.

like what I was doing at the time I. didn't know I was changing all the time. I one time I tried to be a fireman I I. had many jobs one time I was um was. working in nightclubs as a security and. I I I to pay my University fee I was a. garbage man for 7 month really yeah I. collect the garbage man that's why I. did and and I I I did. and and but I I was always forced my. parent always forced me to stay educated. and when I when I tell the kids I say.

man train you know but I wish you the. best but the Huds of success are very. low you know and even you're so talented. and you work really hard that does not. mean you're going to make it cuz that. chance of success are so low make sure. you stay educated and if something goes. wrong and you cannot achieve it at least. you have something to fall back into. and maybe you're going to change your. mind you know what I mean you're not the. same person at 15 that you will be at 20. and at 25 things changes yeah I I didn't.

know what I wanted to what I wanted to. become when I was young and I'm sure the. same for you like oh yeah like I I. wanted to be a Polish a cops at one. point then I wanted to be a fireman then. I'm like oh a I wanted to do a therapist. then a a paleontologist then I'm like ah. I'm going to be a fighter you know what. I mean but the fighter was always in my. mind since the beginning but I I needed. to have a backup plan I didn't know what. what what to do I I I I realized when I. had my first title shot that it was an.

opportunity of a lifetime and that's. when I had a talk with my parent I told. my parent I said listen I'm going to. quit the next session because I'm going. to train full-time because I have a. title shot if that doesn't work I can. always go back next season to school but. the title shot might never come present. the chance would the title might not. ever present itself again so I'm going. to take a chance and I'm going to go. full out and I went full out I lost my.

first title shot but I rebound. immediately and then I end up winning. the title and that's all everything uh. started for for me in in the UFC did. they come to your fights too your folks. I'm sorry did they come to your fights. they they came to my fight um my uh my. parent when it was local but when I my. mom came to my fight when I fought for. the title in Sacramento when I won the. title. but my dad doesn't like to fly he's. afraid of airplane it's crazy he's. afraid of airplanes you're afraid of.

nothing which is kind of ironic no no. I'm afraid of a lot of things but I'm. willing to to do it that's a difference. willing to commit um thank you so much. uh George St Pierre I appreciate your. time and uh yeah just helping us learn. more about fighting and more about the. mentality of of being a champion and um. and the ups and downs of it you know. that not everything's perfect but um but. that we keep moving forward and. challenging ourselves I appreciate it so. much much man all man thank you man. thank you for the the opportunity I. appreciate it cheers brother. now falling like these leaves I must be.

Cornerstone oh but when I reach that. ground I'll share this piece of my life. found I can feel it in my bones. [Music].