Fahim Anwar | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #656

I want to let you know that I'll be. doing a podcast taping this podcast. before a live audience. Um it's the only time I've ever done. that. And it may be the only time I ever. do, I don't know. Uh but that will be. with the champ, Iron Mike Tyson, on May 5th in Los Angeles at the Wiltern. Theater. as part of the Netflix Is a Joke Fest. Uh and after that it'll be on our. channel so you can see it there. You can. get tickets at theovon.com/tour.

Today's guest is a stand-up comedian. He's an actor. And he's a dancer. Um he's a dancer. Uh we've been friends for a long time. and I it's great to finally have him in. His new special Intrusive Thoughts is. right now available on YouTube. Uh we've. got a link in the description. Today's. guest is my friend, Mr. Fahim Anwar.

>> [music and singing]. >> I'm saying over there it didn't even. happen. Somebody just said there were. some fires going on. Are there? >> Remember when everyone had that fire app. for like 3 weeks and then we deleted it? >> Yeah, I did. >> Right? Like we just we're all about that. fire app but like I deleted it. >> Yeah. >> Or you still trying to find out like. what fires are going on in Oregon or. something? >> Oh bro, when people had that app bring.

up that app. What was that? >> Was it called fire? >> [laughter]. >> I think it was called Something's. Burning, wasn't it? It was just an. advertisement for Bert Kreischer's. podcast. >> It was cross-pollination. >> What was that app? Watch Duty, that was. the app, bro. Yeah, remember? It was like, "Oh, there. it is. Oh, it's on the fire." It's like, "Oh, it's on Venice Boulevard." You. know? >> Well, it was like you thought you were. going to die so you just like, "Am I by. the flames?". >> [laughter]. >> Do I have to outrun it? It just says. run? Just pops up?

>> Dude, that that was it right there. Remember in the flames they get bigger. and stuff. They had airplanes going by. And every now and then they would have. this like like a burning emoji would. just run across the screen. >> They would have an icon of a guy setting. fires. You're like, "Somebody take care. of him. Why is he". Cops get on it. >> Yeah, dude, that app was crazy. And it. was like, "Oh, leave your popcorn. kernels out on your. uh veranda.". >> to be a hot one. >> Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. They're like, "Oh, it's going to be. Yeah, definitely. It's a great day to. make some It's a great day to get some.

popcorn going.". >> Yeah, they're probably I mean, it was. bittersweet. Like the developers were. probably stoked. >> Yeah. >> That you know, everyone's downloading. the app. But it's a shame that like this. has to happen for the the downloads to. go through the roof. Maybe they're starting it. >> Dude, I That's what I was saying. I. wonder if they could find Knowing what. we know now, like I wonder if they could. find like a connection between the. developers were the ones starting the. fires. Cuz that's what you start to. realize in the world. It's like Yeah, if. there's a crazy app that comes out that. helps solve a problem, the other side of.

the makers of the app sometimes are. they're in conjunction with the people. making the problem. >> You got to create the need. >> Yeah. You got to create the need, dude. Faheem, man, we're good to see you, dude. >> Thanks for having me, man. Oh, man. Same. Thank you. This is great. >> Yeah, it's been awesome, man. Thanks for. your patience, too. >> Of course. >> Um yeah, I know you got you have a new. special that's coming out, right? >> Yeah. And what's the name of it? >> It's called uh I'm blanking on it. >> I'll help here. And this will help the. name of it. >> like I should know what it's called. >> Intrusive Thoughts.

>> Bro, there you go. I need some of them. right now, yeah. >> It's almost like Yeah, yeah, you could. use one. >> I'm doing a promo run. This is a good to. get the kinks out. What's the name of. the special? Let me just do the biggest podcast and. go, "What's the name of the special?". Should I look I want to hit every camera. where I have a brain [snorts] fart. Intrusive Thoughts. >> Yeah, there you go. >> I was thinking of my last special and I. yeah. >> And it's and it's out now? >> It's out now, yeah, yeah. >> Oh, nice, man. Congratulations. >> Thank you, man. >> Um and you're also what's the show that.

you do? It's the fixing. >> Oh, the the working the working on. stuff? Yeah. So, it's in the belly room. at the comedy store. That one's called. Fahim works on stuff and it's a weekly. series I do. I I work on material and. then eventually sometimes it makes it. into the set. So, like this hour I did a. lot of those jokes ended up making it. But if you like stand up and how it's. crafted and stuff that's a fun one to. check out. >> Oh, so it so like from the stage all the. way and then they how they ended up in. in. >> just me trying jokes out like I have. paper and stuff and there's you know the. way you write material. You know, you. get ideas and you try it out. I just I.

film it and then I put it up and I'd. love to have you do it sometime, too. I'd love to have you on the show. >> Yeah, man. If I'm in town, I'd love to. do it, dude. Thank you. >> Of course. >> I thought it was like Fahim works on. stuff. It was like you fixing like a. motor or something. >> Yeah, there's that's bad branding, I. guess. Some people in the comments are. like, I thought there'd be a carburetor. >> [laughter]. >> And that's on me. But I'm on the thumbnail I have a I'm. doing this. >> go, right there. Fahim works on stuff. and his friends drop by. That's great. >> So, it's yeah, it's a nice. >> It's so you, dude. Nobody works on stuff. more than you, bro. You are like you're.

the guy that's always done like to me. that's always done it like a comedian. like a true comedian is does it. If they. if people have an idea of what that is. and everybody's ideas can be different. >> Mhm. >> But if you had like this idea of like. >> Well, it's very flattering, man. Thank. you, man. >> Um but yeah, I was expecting something. like a car but I was expecting something. different or I just thought it was like. one of like Bert's Kreischer shows or. whatever. He like every other you know, he always has something like Bert fights. a mole or whatever, you know. >> [laughter]. >> It's like you know. >> I mean I'm working on a different thing. every show like it's a skateboard one. show, a BMX.

>> Yeah. >> And then maybe an Impala. >> [clears throat]. >> He's give it he's building. >> In the comments, what do you want me to. work on next? >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. And then your your wife's like, "Why don't you work on this marriage or. whatever, dude? Are you married?". >> I got I don't none. >> Okay, never mind. >> I got I don't work on that. I only work. on jokes and. >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz. >> Whoa, was that all You guys whipped that. up just now? >> AI. [laughter]. >> Wow. >> Um Fahim and I were working under the. hood, always greasing, bro. That shit's. dope, dude.

You're kind of black arming there, but. >> me bigger forearms. I kind of like that. >> Yeah, you look. >> me beefier. >> Off, dude. But that chest is grease. right there, that can of it. >> how they kept the Apple Watch. [laughter] That's that's not. Uh AI's not cutting me a break at all. >> Bro, you got to have You got to have. something on you to let you know when. lunch is, bro. That's the thing. >> Should I do this? I look way happier. doing this. I I haven't smiled this much. ever on stage, but I'm just looking It's.

like my child. >> Aw, with that pride, that's great, dude. Um. >> The Oh, what was I going to ask you. about? Oh, did you see that guy hit the. Jumbotron or something that. >> No, I missed it. What was it? >> this is way less important than your. special, but let's let's veer off. Yeah, uh another view of the parachuter who. hits the Jumbotron at the Virginia Tech. game. This is the problem now with DEI, dude. It's like they can't even get a. good parachuter. [laughter]. >> Do we know the race of the guy who was. parachuting, though?

He survived? >> I mean, but that's crazy, bro. Just another gooner getting too close to. the screen, huh? >> Dude, you would think. What if the whole stadium just saw a guy. die before a game? Do they continue the. game? >> That's a great question. >> Like I you do a half at least, right? You do a half and then out of respect. you don't play the rest of the half. You. play half a game. >> When a guy dies. >> Yeah, that'd be crazy. What would happen. say that guy.

who obviously was What was he doing. where he got too occupied? >> Yeah. >> He was on his phone? >> Yeah. >> He was just [laughter] like this. >> He was watching footage of him. He's. like, "Well, I'm getting pretty close to. that thing.". >> Oh, man. It's just sad, bro. That. gooning dude, they those guys want to. get so close to the screen, dude. They. want to be. >> Right there. [snorts]. >> It's not enough. We used to masturbate. like in. like almost what is considered now kind. of archaic.

>> Like pages. >> Yes. >> A 2D image. >> Yeah. >> Like kids don't know what that's like to. That's like jerking off to a shadow at. this point. You know what I mean? >> Yeah, the only volume was you had to. quietly turn the page. Remember that? >> Yeah, sometimes you would like move it. around to make it dance. Make it seem. like she's really there. >> Yeah. >> Now they're like Apple Vision Pro. They're like load me up. They're loading. up different chicks. They're having. threesomes. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, they're having eightsomes. They're. having freaking other like there's they. have one where an octopus will jerk you. off and if you guess the arm he's going.

to do it with, like you win more coins. or whatever. I'm like, "What is it?". >> That'd be cool if there was an orgy. where like everyone's wearing an Apple. Vision Pro, but it's just like 12 people naked in a. room. Like y'all could be each other. And they're like, "The environment's better in this one. We're on the pyramids.". >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, dude. What are you talking about? We're on the Mayflower. Why would I. in my living room like some like. some senior citizen when I could on.

the Challenger, but you only have 40. seconds to. >> [laughter]. >> The Challenger? >> Yeah. >> So it's like sort of like a bust. contest. You have to do it under the. clock or you blow up. You have to bust before you bust. >> Yeah. >> That's [laughter] the name of the game. And they go, "You died without busting.". Yo, what game is this? >> Oh, damn. Dude, it's definitely getting. >> [laughter]. >> They go, "It's free." But then you have. to pay for the tokens. That's where they. get you. >> The game's free. >> The game is free, but yeah, you get.

different coins, too. I know there's. like the There's that one I know virtual. reality sex thing where they could. they're having sex on like. um. uh. famous like sad times that happened. I. think there's one they're doing now. Palantir is doing one where you can just. do it right in the Gaza rubble. They're offering that. >> That's a new service? >> Yeah. >> They're pivoting? >> Yeah. >> It's sort of like Allbirds, the shoe. company, went AI. And everyone's like, "Okay.". Yeah, that's like Crocs getting into.

like biotech. >> [laughter]. >> You know? And that's just a laugh. >> Dude, that's so funny, bro. Imagine Palantir. actually They would come out with. something like that, dude. That's. soulless group. Um yeah, but there's. That's where it's going to get to. It's. like, "Oh, well, oh, sorry. I I would love to work out. today, but I'm like, I'm banging a. couple chicks on the Trail of Tears. [clears throat] later this afternoon.". Like, "I'm meeting up with a couple of. friends. And we have We're meeting up in an. opioid crisis basement from like 2022.".

>> Yeah. >> You know, it's just going to get weirder. and weirder. >> I. Why does it have to be like busting to. sad stuff? It's just It's [laughter] a. funny. Those are the only levels? It. can't be a meadow? It has to be like the. worst. >> What do you mean like a meadow like a a. meadow from like um the hills like uh. >> Like the Sound of Music or something? Yeah, that'd be nice. >> Ooh, that'd be beautiful. Like in. Stockholm? >> Sure. >> [laughter]. >> Is that where it was? >> Bring up a Stockholm. meadow, please. What is it like there? >> Oh, that's nice.

>> Oh god, look at that. >> It's like [clears throat] a XP. screensaver right there. >> And where Yeah, that is. Remember that. when the nicest thing in your house was. your screensaver? >> But you looked out of your real windows. and it was just like a bunch of like It. was like two black dudes fighting like a. like a crow in Baltimore or whatever. >> What if that was the screensaver they. sent to the hood? Like you couldn't even. have the rolling It had to be like. what's outside your window. Yeah, so it. couldn't even be that. It was just like. dilapidated cars. >> What is that place? Oh oh, go back to.

the previous one, Nick. Yeah, whatever you clicked on. Right. here. Green Meadow. at Arison. Johagen. But yeah, dude. You're right. I'm I'm thinking of like negative. things. >> But it is funny. I do like that. constraint that it's a pretty awesome. video game. But it has to be in terrible places. >> Yeah. >> That's just the deal. >> Yeah. >> Maybe the patch will let you do nice. places, but until then, we're beta. testing the terrible places. >> Right. In the beginning, it's like a.

virtual reality sex thing. >> Yeah. >> Okay? >> Yeah. >> But in the beginning, you only get to. like like do like You can have orgies. and meet-ups. You're allowed to have. like six or seven friends, but you can't. have like 40 friends join you. >> Yeah, then you have to pay. That's like. a paid tier. >> Yes. And. you get like you unlock better places to. be able to kind of basically jerk off in. hypothetically that you would never be. able to go to because. >> What What do you think the ultimate. unlock is? >> Ooh. Well, what are some second tiers even? Let's If you don't mind. >> movie theater, let's say, if you want to.

throw back, you know? >> Yeah, movie theater, maybe um. >> Like a porn theater back in the day. >> Yeah, Jets game or whatever. >> Sure. >> [laughter]. >> You know, that's Do you think there's a. guy I mean, that's terrible, right? But. kudos to the guy who can do that. >> Oh. >> Who can bang it out to a Jets game, you. know? >> Yeah. >> Like football's going on, there's. peanuts and popcorn, and he can he can. still. >> [laughter]. >> Like if there was a like a talent scout. for adult films, he'd be like, "That. guy, he's going to do it on cue.". >> Yeah. He'd be looking at him for the.

second round. Yeah, we're drafting. today. >> Most people can't with like a few people. watching. This guy does like a whole. stadium. >> Yeah, that's scary, dude. Imagine I would have dreams where I had. to imagine like it was like a big thing. and you had to jerk off a mountain or. whatever or like a village couldn't eat. or whatever, and everybody's there. cheering and. >> of pressure. Yeah. >> And then it's like eight more weeks of. winter for your stomachs, bro. Y'all. ain't eating dude, cuz y'all made. me too nervous up here. >> You blame it on them? >> Yeah, we have [laughter] to. They're. cheering.

Don't cheer. It's like golf. I need. silence. I can't do this with you laughing in my. I have to start over. I had it and then I lost it. >> Yeah, yeah, [laughter] that's it. >> Just can you get in the other room? >> Uh, but yeah, that's just sad. Some guy. jumps out of. I guess he jumped out of a rocket or. something. I mean, what was he even. doing? >> Yeah. >> And then um yeah, what would some of the. Yeah, what would some of the highest. tears be like, okay. And you can't. really tell your parents unless they're. like also. >> Unless they play the game, then they. already know, right? Then they see you.

like cuz you're cuz your. gamer tag is on there. >> Yes. And your dad sees that and you go, you play too? >> Yeah, that's. That's sad, dude. >> Yeah. >> And when the power goes out of your. place and both you and your dad, you. just hear EACH OTHER LIKE, DANG. GOD. CUZ both y'all just got shut down and. you're freaking from the goona sphere or. whatever. What did bring up Let's I want to learn. more about gooning. Do you know a lot. about it? >> I don't know. These young kids, you. know, they have all these terms and then. I learn about it way too late. So,

gooning Is that just like pining? Is. that the new version of pining? >> I um I'm not good I think it's just like. >> You're into something. Let's bring it up here on Perplexity. They help us. >> I feel like this is overkill for AI. >> [laughter]. >> This is like shooting a fly with a. cannon. AI, what is gooning? >> [laughter]. >> You have like Tony Stark just to. explain. AI, what's 2 + 2? Perplexity is a sponsor. We're going to. pull up 2 + 2.

>> [laughter]. >> Perplexity, what color is the sky? >> My Perplexity must think I am a the. dumbest guy in the world, dude. We ask the most basic cuz we don't. know it. >> This is the most Theo thing though ever. This is like quintessential Theo like. >> [laughter]. >> Pull up AI, pull up gooning. Just the most robust infrastructure for. [laughter] the The. thing. >> We built all of this just to look that. up. Dude, they need to do a remake of. Goonies, but it's goo- [laughter] but. it's gooning. >> Bro. You sold it in the room. >> Yeah, yeah.

>> You sold it on name alone. >> Bro, you telling me and they all have to. get to one magic spot and they all jerk. off in like a cup from like a senior. citizen from like 2,000 years ago. >> I just picture you in a suit at. Paramount. pitching this. Like you're saying all. the same things. >> Mhm. >> And you pitch it in a suit. >> What does it say? Quick definition, modern sexual meaning in current. internet slang, gooning, is a form of. marathon masturbation and porn. consumption where someone stays aroused. for a long time. So, it's basically like.

trying to. um. >> Keep the party going. >> You And also, I think it's trying to. keep your weiner up. So, it's try-. There's like a level of like You know. what the I like at the fish thing when. they try to get the dolphin like stay on. its tail for a little while? >> So, gooning is the human equivalent of a. dolphin staying on the water? >> Yeah, when they Yes. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you have to make that sound when. you're gooning. >> Mine sounds like a broke down. gay dude. Mine is Hold on. >> [laughter]. >> That's pretty good. Yours is like half and half human, half. dolphin, like the blade.

>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Mine sounds like an Asian car that won't. start, dude. Just. >> [laughter]. >> So, that's gooning pretty much, huh? >> Um let's get a little more sorry. >> Is it Edging? Didn't Wasn't that a thing. before? >> Well, someone stays aroused for a long. time, often hours, edging themselves. into a trance-like zoned out state. rather than just quickly getting off. That's crazy, bro. So, I didn't know. that. I thought it was just I mean, I. guess I mean, I knew that it was.

somebody like that was really locked in. on seeing their their penis and wanting. to come or just being involved with. pornographia, you know, or porno or whatever. I knew. it was a lot of that, but I didn't know. >> that this exists? >> Well, just the levels they're going to. for it. Um. Solo means non-partnered, porn-driven. off of multiple tabs, niche content, things on loop. What are you doing? Are you like. Reggie Watts or whatever? Like.

>> You have a loop machine? [laughter]. You're playing this You're like a DJ? What if this is the birth of hip-hop? It's a new genre of porn where like. people would just play the whole thing, but I started chopping it up. And now people come to my porn DJ sets. all the time. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone. Yeah. The Coachella main stage. >> And the beat drop. Dude, and just. like fake like. >> That's when the fog comes in. Or the foam like in Ibiza. >> Uh that's gooning, man. Dang it. Long.

Long before it had anything to do with. porn, goon meant things like fool, thug, or a henchman. The history roughly looks. like older English roots goony, goon. >> Do you think old-fashioned goons are. upset that it's like their word has been. taken away? They go, "No, I don't do. that. I'm a goon.". >> Yeah. >> I'm a real I'm a muscle. I'm I'm a goon. for the mob. >> [laughter]. >> I'm not These Gen Z. Yeah, these Gen Z are. I'm an OG goon. >> I'm a real goon, brother. >> I'm a real goon. >> Yeah, I'm not just jerking off or. whatever somewhere. But it's just sad.

that like. this is kind of like our military now. It's like there's enough of them doing. it now where it's like they have like. meet-ups and they have like you know, they have almost like those. dance-a-thons or whatever where it's. like. >> Like it's like. What is it? Fonzie? Like a sock hop or. something? >> Yeah, it's like we're raising money for. testicular cancer whatever. And how many. kids are in the. Like what's it called if people goon. together? Is there a. There's got to be something. >> That actually sounds like good for the.

community. Quit gooning by yourself. Goon together. >> Yeah. >> goon-off. >> Yeah. >> Down at the local gymnasium. Winner of the Winner of the goon-off. gets a Hyundai Elantra. >> When people say goon together, it's. typically referred to as a group gooning. or participating in a goon session, communal gooning, often organized via. online communities like Discord, Reddit, and adult platforms. Wow. Huh. >> Oh, group sessions, okay. >> I don't This must be a I think this is a. younger person's thing, too. Like a. teenager or adult, I mean like our.

college age I don't really I don't think. I have the time to devote to that. >> Yeah, it seems like a lot of time. I. wonder if we're just out of touch, like. do you think parents are like. I don't understand your gooning. He's. like, "You don't get me, Dad. Yeah, me. and my friends are doing it." If we're. just too old. >> Richard, he's in there gooning right. now. >> there gooning. It's like that that uh. weed commercial, like "Where did you. learn to goon?" "I learned it from you. From watching you.". >> Yeah. >> Oh, that hit me, dude. I didn't. even have a kid. I was a I was a kid. I was [laughter] a kid and I just felt. all the pain of it, like, God.

Oh, man. That's wild, dude. Anyway, bro, good to see you, dude. >> Same, man. Thank you for having me. And. then I don't know if I told you. officially, but thank you for having me. on tour with you with those dates. Like. that was so fun to do. I'd never done. something like that. So, like I've been. doing stand-up a long time, but I. haven't played venues like that before. >> Where did we play in Seattle now? >> No, no. We did the Midwest run. So, we. did Iowa, we did Minnesota, we did North. Dakota, South Dakota. >> Ooh, yeah.

>> But I've just never played venues that. large before. So, I mean, the largest I've done before I. came out with you was. 7,000 at the Dolby, 7,000 people. And. then we did Some of these were like. 18,000. I just wanted to do that for me, just. like, what is that like? It's like big. wave surfing, you know? >> Yeah. >> For real. It's scary, man, cuz I met up. with you guys. in Iowa, I think at first, like tour. buses the venue and all that. And then. you look at the seats in the daytime and. it's. It's like that scene in in uh. Interstellar, where they they see that.

giant wave. You know what I mean? The like you're. like your heart kind of sinks a bit. You're like, "Oh, man, these are going. to be filled with people?". >> Yeah. >> But then you do one and you're like, "Ah, I know what this is.". >> Yeah, it takes some It's like I mean, definitely navigating some of that is. different. The. And And thanks for coming, dude. I. appreciate it, bro. Thank you so much, dude. A lot of times it's like tough to. get a lot of headliners to come out on. the road cuz a lot of them are working. different weekends or something like. that. And. I know that was an off weekend for you, so thanks for coming out.

>> Um. Yeah, dude. Were we at the place where. that That place in North Dakota was I. think the biggest. >> Was that the Fargo Dome? >> Yes. >> That was insane. >> The buses were like inside and they were. And then there was a whole 'nother. inside where they had like a basketball. court. >> Yeah, we were playing basketball before. the show behind a curtain. It was like. two stadiums almost. The place was. divided in half and it was. even with it divided in half, it was. huge. >> It was unbelievable. And there was like. yeah, they're like they They have They. sell animals in here. They do everything. in here.

They churn it, they earn it, whatever. Like they had a whole shirt like. churn and yearn whatever. It was like. there. It was like kind of a Amish thing and. then like. like defeating like sexual sin or. whatever. >> Right. >> They do that. >> But do you remember I don't know if we. told the story. My favorite There's like. two moments from the tour that I like. were my favorite. The The guy's hat. blowing off. Have you told that on here? >> No, no, I haven't told that, dude. >> right? >> Yeah, it was like wizard work. >> Well, we were in Clear Lake, right? >> Yes. >> So what's cool about you like you want. to do stuff in the town. Back in the day.

I would tour with Bobby and he just He's. like a vampire. He just closes and he's. in the darkness until it's time for the. show. >> Yeah. >> actually want to hang out and So we got. lunch. We're in the tour bus, right? >> He's like a Chinese vampire. >> [laughter]. >> He just He does Xbox or PlayStation till. the show. >> He's goony. He's really goony. He started it, dude. He's Data from. Goonies, too. Like. >> He's patient zero for gooning. >> Yeah, yeah. Okay. >> So we we get lunch in it before the. shows and we parked on the outskirts.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. And then So right before. this even happened, we're going to walk. to the sandwich shop cuz you're like oh. it's rated pretty high on Yelp. So we're in the middle of nowhere pretty. much. It's a beautiful town, right? That. >> Unbelievable. >> Like a Spielberg movie or something. Small town USA. We're just walking down. the thoroughfare. And it's blowing like you're not. supposed to be there. It's so weird to. these people. They're like and there's. this guy, this heavy set guy, you know? He's like. What the what the Theo Von? Oh man, can I get a picture? And then he. came up but we were kind of running late.

and he's like you're like sure thing, man. Just. we're running a little late. If you can. like, you know, keep up with us and. we'll get we'll get that selfie. He's. like you got it. And then it was really. it was like really windy so he like he. he gets up to you and the wind just. blows his hat off. >> Yeah, right when he got up. >> Right when he got up to you. He's like oh oh so that and it was it. was like bad wind. It went like a block. away. >> It was bad wind. Like it was like that's. one of the reasons why we were trying to. get like it was like dude, we're going. to be late where we're going. We would. have been on time but the wind was like. it was up hill when you were just flat.

It was the worst wind that I'd ever been. in and it it was beautiful day insane. winds cloud seeding Israel. Go on. >> So the hat blows off. The guy gets it. He puts it on. He catches up to you. >> And it blew far. >> It blew far. >> It blew probably. >> He's probably in zone two trying to. catch it. Like his heart his heart rate. was up. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, it blew. Yeah. It blew maybe like. probably 60 ft which is far on a windy. day and it kind of went around the edge. of a truck. Like it blew far.

>> Yeah. >> We were like holy. >> it down, put it on. Man, what are you doing here? I'm a huge. Blows again. He runs. He repeats. He. goes he gets it. We're still walking. >> And my feelings started to get hurt a. little bit at this point cuz it's like. dude, look. that hat's going to be here all the. time. >> That's what we were thinking. >> Well, like like yo. >> How often are you in Clear Lake? This. guy's going he's a bigger fan of this. hat. >> That's what it was. >> than he is of you, I guess. >> Right. And he kept kind of he's like. just wait, just wait." And we're kind of. waiting, but getting hit by the wind and.

like. >> Okay, go on. >> time So, it happens three times. He. catches it finally catches up with us, but it was just so funny. Like that. whole day we were just laughing about. the wind blowing that guy's hat and then. like how absurd. >> It was like one of those moments you're. like, "This cannot be real." Right? Like. it was just. Hold on, you know? >> It was a cartoon. >> Yeah, yeah. It's literally like a Looney. Tune. And we'd have to sit there One. point we sat on a bench for like a. little bit and waited for him to go get. his hat again. We're like Cuz the hat. like he just I don't know. I think he. also wore the lightest hat. It's like,

"Dude, >> it was like paper mache. It was made out. of Kleenex and it would just blow off. It [laughter] was made out of Kleenex. and he just sharpied New York on it. >> It's like a repurposed kite. that Toms has made and now they're. making hats, you know? >> Yes, designed to blow off your head. And. then. >> we walked over to the Surf Ballroom. Remember that? >> Oh, yeah. >> Where. uh. >> The Ritchie Valens. >> Where Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper. uh where they played their last show, dude, before that plane crash. And it.

was still as intact as ever. It was like. going back in the past. They were so. happy we were there. They like gave us a. tour of everything. You got to see the. phone where they called like where he. called his mom and he's like, "Don't. worry, Mom, I'll be home.". >> Yeah, so much history there. And then we. got shirts. We got matching shirts. >> We did. I I wore mine. >> I've worn mine, too. >> It's a good shirt. >> We should wear it on the same show. sometime. >> Yeah. >> Like yeah, we've been there. >> We'll go there. You know what we'll do, dude? We will go there and we got to go. there and do some shows. >> It was so like it was so nice, I filed.

it away. I'm like, "I should vacation. here one time.". >> what I thought. >> a cool vacation spot. >> And I wish we honestly kind of wish we. weren't even talking about it because I. don't want other people to know how. great it is. But every yard there, everything, it was just kind of perfect. >> Picturesque. >> Yes. >> And then I forgot what city this was in, but after the shows you do meet and. greet sometimes, you know, you're really. good about that. And so you're meeting. your fans and then talking to them and. all that. And and then there's this this. girl in a wheelchair, very sweet. You're. talking to her. And then. And then you have this rapport with her, and then you very you go You know, if.

you don't mind me asking, like may may I. ask what happened? And then. >> Yeah, how'd you get all wheeled out? That's my big question. [laughter]. Because we don't know. >> Right. We got we got to know. And then. she's like, "Oh, yeah, yeah. I uh you. know, I was in a car accident. My car. spun around, and I got flung out of the. car.". And then and then you go. Now now what kind of car was it? >> You got to ask that? >> And I just like like no other person on. earth would drill down on what type of. car it was? And then she's like, "Oh, I think I.

think it was like a Oldsmobile or. something." And then you're like Now is. that a nice vehicle? >> What? [laughter] I don't Can I really. Oh, I'd like to try to add context. just so I know. It's hard. >> I know. It's like so you though. You. know what I mean? >> imagination work if I don't know. >> Yeah. You wanted to paint the story, you. know. >> Yeah. And different cars I could see. your body leaving out of it a different. way. Like. >> That's a good point. >> If it's like a heavy older model car, you probably slip out the window, side. window. If it's one of these new cars, these little bouncing baby buggies or. whatever, you'd fly right out of.

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outside of the clubs is a different. thing because everyone is kind of famous. at the club because those are comedy. nerds and everyone knows someone. But. then you're like famous famous. And I. just had an experience that first hand. cuz I would see you at the store or I'd. see you at the Improv, you know? So we. were. It would happen everywhere like that. sandwich shop and then I remember DQ. especially where the Dairy Queen place. I wanted to get like a blizzard. >> Oh yeah. >> like I'll I'll come cuz you we saw Mount. Rushmore or whatever. >> Oh yeah, we went to freaking Mount. Rushmore. >> It's tinier than you think it'd be.

>> We did We did like a whole family worth. of vacationing in one week. >> We were basically in an RV. It's like. we're doing a family vacation and happen. to do these shows. >> Dude, you guys went on a helicopter, didn't you? >> cuz I'm afraid of that. >> Oh yeah. >> You didn't. >> I didn't cuz I I I didn't pay I I got a. deal out of those people so I was like. they're they're definitely. >> But Bizzle went, Lee went. I'm trying to. think who else. >> Yeah, Lee Kembell and. Yeah, there we are, dude. >> I always I mean it was cool. It was. definitely cool and impressive, but I. thought it would be bigger.

>> There's a lot of like a kind of there's. like you park, you walk and they do a. good job of making it so you can't see. it till you get there. >> Mhm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> There is kind of the big reveal. They. have all the flags along the side of. different countries which I don't even. know why they have that. And then the. craziest part about Mount Rushmore is. there's another side to it where they. were they're making the face of a Native. American, right? I think originally it was public and. then it got um.

kind of privatized and there was a man. who was trying to do it with his sons. >> Just with a hammer by himself? >> And an X-ACTO knife. >> And a sonic hair. >> He's [laughter] just out there. >> With a sonic hair. >> Um. >> [clears throat]. >> Do you think that's how they sold it to. them? Like, all right, we're going to do. the president, and then we'll get to the. Like, ah, we ran out of dynamite. >> Yeah. >> They just bait and switched them. >> You're like, you mean the stuff you you. used to blow up all of our villages and. lives in history? You didn't have just a. little left over? >> it all, ironically, yeah.

>> Um dude, this is so great. While you. while they're while they're checking it. out, thank you guys for checking. Um. it's fun to see this pitch cuz I just. sometimes that you just forget like I. feel like you just go through so many. places sometimes and it's almost like. it bumps you out in a way because you I. think it bumps anybody out when you're. traveling or anything you're doing. It's. like you can only hold on to it so much, right? And then life gets going and. life's so busy now for everybody, the. way we interact and the way there's like. always entertainment, always something. to keep us like there's always like a a.

seal with a ball on its nose, hypothetically, you know? >> And it's we forget sometimes or just. like the moments that we've had. >> I'm trying to be better about taking. pictures. We have a phone in our pocket. all times and I forget to You know, I'll. be at the store, there'll be some great. moments or I'll be on tour with you and. I I got to capture these moments or you. you kind of forget about them. It's nice. to go through your phone, go through. your Instagram, be like, oh, that was a. fun time. >> Going through this is the best. >> Yeah, I think this is a right Yeah, the. the Crazy Horse Memorial is a mountain. monument under construction on privately.

held land in the Black Hills in Custer. County, South Dakota. >> So, that's a different mountain or. whatever, right? It's not on the same. >> there. Um Henry Standing Bear um. a a Lakota chief and well-known. statesman and elder in the Native. American community recruited and. commissioned Polish-American sculptor. Korczak Ziolkowski to build the Crazy. Horse Memorial. Um. in 1939, November 7th, Henry Standing. Bear wrote to the Polish-American. sculptor who worked on Mount Rushmore. under Gutzon Borglum. Um he informed the.

sculptor, "My fellow chiefs and I would. like the white man to know that the red. man has great heroes, too." Wow. So, that's putting like that tweet out. there. That's like tweeting back then. >> Uh-huh. >> Sending a letter, just talking. Just being the Draymond Green of like. the Lakota Nation. Um In June 3rd, 1948, uh Ziolkowski detonated the first blast. on the mountain, and the memorial was. dedicated to the Native American people. Work continued slowly over the next few. decades, since Ziolkowski refused to. accept government grants. Ah.

So, he probably didn't want to accept. them, I'm assuming, because it was like. this is the government trying to put. money in to pay, like just to make it. look a little bit better for what they. did. Instead, as he stated on a 1961. guest appearance on a TV show, to tell. the truth, he raised money for the. project by charging 75 cents admission. to the monument work area. Hm. The memorial celebrated 75th anniversary. in 2023. Crazy Horse's left hand was. finished by 2024. Um. I wonder when it'll be done. >> I don't know. >> Well, note here that the land is run by.

the US Forest Service, and they were. just defunded, so it's probably going to. I think that affects how long it takes. Well, we got the hand, though. It's kind. of nice. Yeah, I mean, it's like. at this point, I would pivot. Yeah. To. To what? >> [laughter]. >> And I hate to say that, but. but you have the hand, right? >> Do they have an updated what it looks. like? Here we go. Looks like Bill Maher a little. >> [laughter].

>> And maybe that's the pivot. >> Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah. >> Just real time shoots there. >> Okay. >> [laughter]. >> Ah. That's wild, dude. >> What if there's a huge mistake? They go, "Oh, we thought you wanted Bill Maher.". >> Yeah. >> They go, "No, it was it was this Native. American.". "Oh. Well, I opened up this attachment. It. was I thought it was Bill Maher. Yeah, I. must have had my tabs messed up. Yeah, I. must have Oh, I must have had a. different window open on my browser, Well, what do we do now? Well, I. mean we've blasted a lot of the.

mountain. Whose hand is it? I think I think it's. Bill Maher's. It might be the other. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, maybe you go like Bill Maher. with a Native American hand. That's a That's a good compromise. Cuz. you got to do something or you just open. up a ring shop and chisel out the inside. of the hand. I don't know what you do. >> That'd be kind of cool. Like all they do. is rings? >> Yeah. >> And it's inside of a hand. >> Yeah. I've thought about that before, dude. I Somebody had a great name for a ring. shop, dude. Every day I think about what.

it was and I can't remember what it was. But. >> It'll It'll come back to you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, dude. >> Of course. >> Um. But yeah, the Crazy Horse Memorial. started in 1948, still not finished. Oh, there's a good video about it right. there, huh? >> He's ripped. Look at that. The horse and. him are ripped. >> That's pretty wild. >> It's kind of centaurish a little though, the art. >> Yeah. >> Dude, sometimes when you look at stuff. that's like going on in the world today, like it's kind of crazy like you kind of. look at things like you're like, "Oh, where there's like. people being abused, taken advantage of. here, right? Like there's a genocide.

here. There's this this like. uh. senseless like propaganda-ridden bombing. and attacking over here, right? But then. you look at also like. that people like with that that that. that happened to Native Americans, too. It's just like it's kind of like. um. >> A tale as old as time, which is so sad. >> I know. You think like. >> Yeah. >> Who opens for Spade right now? Matt. >> Matt Kirschen? >> No, I love that guy, though. Oh, Patrick. Keane. And he has this joke, it's like he goes,

"Well, at one time there was like um. Joseph, Mary, Cain, and Abel.". You know, and then Cain killed Abel. Did. Cain kill Abel? >> Perplexity. Load up. >> [laughter]. >> Perplexity. Who killed It's like a It's. like the religious Clue, the board game. That one always has [laughter] it. >> Um but he goes, "At one point in. history, 25% of the population were. murderers, which is just it for me that. was always like one of the best jokes. Dude, he's like there were four people. and they couldn't figure it out and one.

of them killed one of the other ones. >> It's a high percentage. >> Just heartbreaking. Yeah. But it's just. crazy. It's like sometimes you want to. get at like that's one part where I like. I'll get agitated about things, but then. I'm like. but the you know. I don't know. Life a lot of life is suffering. Do you. think that's true? >> Yeah. Yeah. And you're trying to make. the best of what's in front of you and. do what you can do and but it's almost I. mean I realized this later in life that. a lot of life is like SimCity. It'll. never be perfect, but you can get it as.

close to optimal as you can. >> Yeah. >> But nothing will be perfect. You do. something, then drug abuse goes up. You. know, then you do this other thing, then. the wait for the bathroom and the roller. coaster line goes up. >> [laughter]. >> You know? Just life is SimCity. And there's not a perfect system, but. like we're all striving to get there. And that's kind of hard to come to terms. with when you're young. You just think. everything should be candy popper or you. know, rate you know, gumdrops and. lollipops, but it's so hard to. maximize utility for everyone cuz some.

something's got to give eventually. But we can do our best, you know? And I. I it's nice that we have that drive to. do so as as humans. >> Yeah, maybe we'll enter a new phase too. where we realize like oh all this. capitalism all that bull it's like it's. not nobody's winning with it, you know? All this like conquering. You would. think that like I kind of thought we. were over like some of the colonialism. >> Mhm. Well, even just like. untethered [clears throat]. capitalism, we're seeing the cracks in. it right now. We're like late stage capitalism right. now, which is interesting.

Like it's just kind of funny. Like oh. Mr. Beast has a chocolate, The Rock has. a tequila, you know, uh Beyoncé has a toothpaste. >> [laughter]. >> You know, like you have to be now all. our products are just faces. It's. interesting. >> cavities. Yeah like somebody the other day offered. to come was like going with door to door. was like we'll come and spray your bugs. You don't You have any bugs? You're like. I don't know. You're like. bugs always attack people who don't know. if they have them and I'm like they're. just using like they use like reverse. psychology and stuff and they'll be like. oh be quiet be quiet and they'll be like.

oh do you hear that? That's and they'll. make up like a bug or something you. know? Like that's like a wasp or whatever you. know or some bug that's like and I'll. believe that outside. But yeah, you're. like that's like a. you know they make something up like oh. that's a wasp from Tijuana or. something you know? Or are those worse. than regular wasps? Yes. They are south of the border they. they're smarter than. oh yeah they're lost from home they're. angry. If they made it all the way up here. they're angry.

>> [laughter]. >> They want to go they're lost. The guy's. like we have to come and just spray. tequila in your yard and you're like. what? >> [laughter]. >> It's got to be top shelf they know. They. know the difference. Oh they know if they're getting the bunk. But yeah they're just like anyway. so that and then that dude had merch. he's like you want to get some of my. merch and I'm like. the exterminator had merch? Yeah I'm. like. and that's when I was like oh my god. we've hit this crazy. place where it's like you know you could. have like an like somebody's bleeding to. death an EMT shows up and neither one of.

them will have like. like an EMT won't help until you buy his. merch like he or as he's setting up. doing CPR he sets up a little merch. thing buy it. Right or like a wrist band. like Coachella like what tier coverage. do you want? Then the paddles are in this tent. Yeah. like how do you want to yeah yeah do you. want the full paddles you just want to. breathe in your and you just want the. hand you want the hopeful hands they. call them. Breathe breathe is extra. We don't we don't you know do you want. one paddle or two? We give you a like. half a zap. But if you want the full zap.

it'll cost you. And what's the voltage? It's a tiered program. Yeah this is tier. man we'll give you a trial zap. That's. first yeah. Just give your your heart a taste. Like. it liked that. I would upgrade. Seems like your heart wants that. Hey, the heart wants what the heart. [laughter] wants, you know? And that's. what is Merz said on it. I'm like, that's crazy. It's just like, man, it's. just gotten to be a crazy world, dude. Um. Dude, you're so funny, man. You're one. of the funniest guys. >> the fact. >> existed, dude. >> I I mean, I don't know about that, but.

>> You Dude, you are You're the guy that. everybody goes to see. That's kind of. weird. I wonder if that feels Does that. feel like pressure because that's a real. thing. People be like. >> Maybe at the Comedy Store or whatever. I'm I'm kind of like in the middle. >> but like, oh, Faheem's on, right? And. you'll go watch cuz the rest of us are. kind of like slithering go hopeful. like humor grifters, I think. No, but you're like, you always bring. something new to the table every time. >> I guess I just I like new bits. Maybe. that's a detriment. I remember when I. was a young comic, I just I loved new. material more than crushing. So, there.

were certain shows where maybe I should. have been trying to impress agents or. managers or execs, but I had a new joke. that I wanted I was just I'm always. itching to like. throw out a new idea. And when you're. young, you don't really know how to. navigate that as well, so. I've just always been wired that way. I. just love new material. So, it's kind of. nice that now it's caught up with me and. it's it's an asset now where I know how. to write a little faster. But yeah, I've just always been that. way. I just like new ideas. Do you think.

like a lot of your ideas cuz you all. like I'll say something to you like, man, I'm not feeling well and you're. like. >> [laughter]. >> You make You make it sound like What if. you were like I have some superpower. like I go in some fugue state when you. mention something and I go. and the paper start turning and. >> What if. >> I'm perplexity. I should I should. mention the guys I've I've been. perplexity the whole time. >> Dude, you're like, yeah, I'm not feeling. well and you're like, dude, what if you. weren't feeling well, but like. there was like a bunch of bad guys. chasing you, but you have to not feel. well and still get away from them, you. know? That's kind of That's kind of a.

horrible example, I think. >> No, but you capture the energy and I. guess I'm kind of reserved generally if. I don't know you, but like when. something tickles me or I feel like I. have a good idea or like we have a. rapport I've I've known you forever and. we're just having fun and there's I just. love a good idea. So I get excited and. then I'm like doing it and I don't even. know that I'm doing it. You know what I. mean? Like. >> Yo, that's what it seems like. It seems. like this thing it's almost like when. you pour a beer and it's somebody like. pours it too fast and it's just going to. come out of the glass no matter what, right? That's how it seems like with you.

whenever there's like some like It's. like it it's almost like watching like. an animal get excited kind of it's like. this what what what about this? And then it's like you try to slot it in. and you always slot it in like the best. places and then you're and you're not. afraid to do act outs on stage either. Like you are not like I mean. >> [clears throat]. >> I know for a while you were doing um. Lance Can't Stop. >> Oh yeah. >> Can't Stop the dance like the dancing. [laughter] was was. crazy, bro. The the the the rat tail all. that was great, dude.

>> had this weave. I did it the mothership. maybe like 2 years ago, but I don't do. it as much anymore. What's funny is I. booked this I did a video game. >> Adam Ray's doing it now though. Not not Lance. He's doing a different. thing. Oh, I'm joking. I thought. wouldn't it be great if now he's doing. Lance Can't Stop. >> You're doing Dr. Phil as Lance? Like, "Hey, what's your name? Are you are you. two dating? Check out these dance. moves.". Dude, that's so great. But yeah, bro, just your your ability to like not be. like. I've always been physically fearful,

right? >> Yeah. Like I don't mind like kind of. like. >> You move? >> Yeah, move around. You know, like taking. like. ownership of the space, but to act out. like something physically that like. scares me, bro. >> I guess when I was a kid, I like dancing. was my first thing. So when I would do. talent shows and. >> What do you mean dancing? Like who was I. just loved dancing. Who was funding it, you mean? Hezbollah or whatever? Like. what even. >> Their dance wing? No, it was just uh I mean I I grew up. with Michael Jackson. I'm the generation. that just like he was king. And he was.

at his peak. Like the dancing and the. singing and all the music videos. So I. would try to mimic it. And that was my. first kind of like entry into This is so. old. >> It is. >> when I was working at Boeing in at Long. Beach. Look at those pants. It's so old. those are in again. >> [laughter]. >> You look a little like Ari Shaffir. Bro, your vibes are up, homie. >> I mean, this dancing is not that great. I wouldn't I wouldn't have this as. >> We're keeping the wasps. They want to. stay in the party, [laughter] homie. Your popping.

>> I downloaded Sony Vegas and I'm just. like putting all these filters on it cuz. it's free. I think it's like Industrial Light &. Magic. Like check this out, George. Lucas. >> When was this? All the filters just look. like some hunter like looking through a. scope, really. That's the [laughter] crazy part. >> Now he has glaucoma, the hunter. >> Now he's envious. >> This this song is a bop, though. If you. watch it on real YouTube, that song's a. bop. >> When was that? How many years ago? >> I don't know. So many years ago. >> 18, bro. That's crazy, dude. >> Yeah. >> That's wild. Um.

>> And then I would go to a cubicle and and. do engineering. Thank god they didn't. see my YouTube channel. How embarrassing would that be? >> So you were actually in organized dance? >> Not No. [laughter]. That sounds so funny. Uh I would just do it by myself. I'd be. I'd goon. I would dance goon. >> Oh, [snorts] yeah. >> I would do it alone. I would just like. close the door, turn on Michael Jackson. or any dance music, and I would I would. just dance in my room. I would dance in. front of a mirror. And that there was a currency to that. when I was a kid. Like to be the best. dancer at school, you would have school.

dances and then everyone knew who the. good dancers were and then you would. kind of like battle. And there was. social currency to dancing. I'm sure. there still is. >> That's a good point, but there was a lot. of clout to that. It was like, "Oh, that. guy's the dancer.". >> It's like being the fastest kid at. school. Remember how that was such a. thing? Like the hottest girl would be. with the fastest kid in school. >> Oh, Yeah, but like, "Oh, Damian fast, bro.". >> Right. And then he loses one race and. she's like, "I'm It's not working out.". >> Yeah, or Damian gets got. or whatever and he can't run as much. That's going to affect his. >> his 50 time, right? >> Yeah, the sugar got him coming up short.

>> So I was just into dance, so I guess. that's my foundation. So I'm comfortable. moving my body. >> Yeah. >> And then when I got into stand-up when I. was like 18 and when I'm on stage, like. if I have the idea, I just I just do it. I don't even think about it. I don't. have a fear of moving. >> Wow, that's crazy. >> And also it's an extension of the idea. If I have a bit and I'm in it, I don't. even know that I'm doing it, honestly. Like it's second nature. >> Dude, that's pretty great. >> Cuz it kind of gives you two. instruments. It gives you the verbal. instrument and then it gives you this. whole other instrument. I do notice if I.

do yoga a good bit and the more that I. do it, the more my body shows up in. certain bits and it's like sometimes. your brain will be like, oh, you can do. this because you've been flexible, you've been you've been keeping active, like your shit's like you're keeping. your like your blood up, your vibes up. Do this, you know what I'm saying? And. you're like, oh, that fits and it like. it is interesting when you can. your ideas can use your whole. instrument. >> For sure and then you realize how much. of comedy is non-verbal even. It's. really cool to have a great joke and. people are laughing and then you can get.

another laugh on a movement. >> Yeah. >> You haven't even opened your mouth. It's. just a look. or a walk. And that's kind of exciting. Then it feels like, oh, I have new. colors to to paint with with comedy, you. know? >> Yeah, dude, that's I mean that's I don't. know it as well. I know what you're. talking about and there's moments like. there's some moments in my comedy where. I'll I feel that way. >> I've seen it. Um. I'm trying to think of this older bit. you used to do, the meeting Brad Pitt. >> Oh, yeah. >> you would do it with that. I mean you. still do you still do it. There are. bits. >> act out the thing, but I'll be a like I.

don't get into like I don't know. You. get into this space where it's like. yeah, you're just this kind of thing. that's kind of happening. Um. >> I would love that as an intro. Like this. next guy. is he's a he's kind of a thing that's. happening. Not like in the trades or like. right now. >> Yeah. >> Energetically. Ladies and gentlemen, He-Man or. >> Yeah, that's kind of I just come out. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, it definitely did. For one of your. specials, you have to do somebody comes. out, rubs a lamp three times.

>> come out. It's called my the special's called. career suicide. >> [laughter]. >> Or. you're just like the janitor that comes. at night and cleans up around the lamp, but then you start to create this energy. in this dream. That's That would be more. like you. >> Bro, we have two movie ideas this pod. We got the Goonies idea and then we got. this. >> Yeah. Dude, there it is. Gooners, dude. That's so great. That's awesome. Yeah, dude. Um. Yeah, man.

Do you feel like uh. cuz you've had I mean like. Yeah, I think if people picked out like. some of their favorite comedians, especially at the Comedy Store cuz. that's really kind of your home base, would you say? >> Yeah, yeah. Cuz I'm an LA comic and. that's sort of like the place to be. There's three showrooms. I like working. out there, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, it really is. There's no barrier. If. you can go to one spot in a night and. especially once you're allowed to park. in the back. >> Oh, it's the best. >> Oh, that changes everything, partner. >> It's like I got in the stand-up just for. the parking on Sunset Strip. >> Um.

how would get You always hear like. people say comedy in LA has changed, LA's like the the scene is dead, the. scene is different, right? Maybe not. dead. I think you just hear different. Um how how have you seen it change like. probably since COVID into now and like. what do you think of like just where. things are? >> Uh I mean, we were in the heyday of the. Comedy Store and we didn't even know it. before COVID happened, you know? Like. Rogan was there. Uh just yeah. >> Yeah, it was just juggernaut after. juggernaut. These lineups were insane.

>> Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, I mean we. had Neal Brennan, Ali Wong, Iliza. Shlesinger. Um I mean, and that was it That was just. like kind of people that were just. there. You and then you'd have uh. >> But I was I was Smith. I was like middle. of the pack. Like these guys are. like titans. I was just kind of It was. kind of cool just to share that space. I'm still an unknown, but. comedically and artistically, it's cool. to be in the mix. Like Louis drops in or. or Burr, and then I go up after him. That's That's the thrill of the store. That like at the end of the day, it. still is It's like being good at.

something like a really good saxophone. player. It's like jazz. You'll see somebody. who's just like huge, and then you get. to take the stage, and. you're there for a reason, and you have. to like survive. You have You have to. learn how to survive when you're. younger, but then you get to hold your. own, and that's cool cuz like audience. members get to be hip to you. They're. like, "I came for Burr, but then I. discovered these other comics.". >> That guy. >> And that happens now at the store, too. There's like young guys who are super. funny, and then they they come cuz like. They come to see you, and then they get.

to see everybody else on the lineup. So, we were in the heyday back then. COVID happened. People go to Austin. Some people go to. New York. Some people just like go to. Vegas or or Nashville, even, you know. So, it's not as big as it used to be. It's paired down a bit, but it's still. an amazing club, and the shows are are. still really good. >> It's just that was insanity, and we. didn't even know it at the time. >> Right, we didn't know it. Do you think. What things do you feel like cuz you. always hear like people denouncing it. kind of. Not denouncing, that's not the term, but. you you hear like. >> Like it's over. LA's over. >> Right, do you hear Is that okay to say.

that we hear that? >> We do hear it. >> Okay. But what do you But it's also. every time something's over, whatever. that is, there's always something new. that's starting, too. So, like what do. you see that's like kind of the new. things? Because I'm sure for like a lot. of guys that couldn't get uh stage time, like um. it was probably a hectic time for them. Guys and girls that couldn't get stage. time, like, "Fuck, you know, it's like. Yeah, you have all these guys who are. able to sell tickets, and they get all. the all the like the top eight spots or. whatever, and and it's I'm sure that was. kind of like a clog in the system.". >> Yeah. >> know if that's the right term.

>> but I think there's a life cycle for. everything. It's It's nature. >> I mean. >> These guys I even saw it with you and. some of like my other peers, like. we're kind of middling comics or. whatever, and then you see everybody get. really big, and then they're on the road. and that's awesome because they're. they're getting popular, they're making. money on the road, they're becoming more. famous and then that just naturally. clears up stage time for this top tier. at the Comedy Store. Cuz like you're on. the road so like so-and-so's on the road. like Segura whatever. So now now these. guys get to get those reps in and then.

they get [clears throat] really good and. then they blast off. So there's this. natural order of things. So when. everybody went to like Austin and all. that it just kind of cleared space for. the next tier and now they're getting. really good and stuff. and then hopefully they will flourish. >> Yeah, I'm sure. >> Yeah, it's yeah, it's just like. Yeah, I think there's always something. new that's starting. So I guess yeah, that's how I was kind of wondering since. I I since cuz I moved away I was. wondering yeah, what what what kind of. like do you feel like there's like a new. thing that's happened there over the. past few years? >> Just new shots for like younger guys and.

and also LA will always be LA. New York. will always be New York. It'll ebb and. flow from like how popping it is but. like. you know, Doja Cat is in the crowd. >> Right. >> or you know, Sabrina Carpenter's in the. you know, like these things happen. It's. still LA. >> Yeah. >> Same thing with New York. So you like. can't take that away from it. Um. and yeah, it's everything's cyclical. But then I also the recent development I. think is just as cool as that is. digital's the most important place to. be. Before you had to be in New York and.

LA, now you just got to be on phones. So it's it's kind of cool how it's it's. democratized comedy. >> Mhm. >> Now you can be a funny kid in Clear. Lake, Iowa or or anywhere and just talk. in the camera and you have just as much. of a shot. as like me at the Comedy Store or some. other person at the at the mothership or. So it's really even the playing field. which is which is kind of cool. The most. important place is digital. >> Mhm. >> But if you talk about just stand up the. craft, I think LA, New York, Austin are. still great.

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Who's one of your favorite people that. you've seen just being at the comedy. store and sometimes you get to get to. see like celebrities or something will. come in there? >> Yeah, I saw. >> Tarantino night you were there, remember? You got to talk to him, didn't. you? >> He's he's in. I shot that special hat trick at the. comedy store and then the person who's. shooting me had the cameras rolling, so. I have it on film, me and Tarantino. talking. >> Mhm. >> And then I was going to clear it with. him, but I go, I don't want him to say. no, so I'll just put it out there. >> [laughter]. >> What if he was saying bad stuff like,

you know, I'm eating babies, right? I'm. eating them. I'm getting their life. force. And I'm like, this is great, give. her a light. >> No, just super nice, super. complimentary. It might have been the. night you were there, too. >> I think I was there. I tried to go up. and I kept getting pushed to a different. room. >> Ah. So, I think you brought me up in the. OR and had a good set. And it was just so surreal. Tarantino. comes out and he's like, I want to talk. to the cool guy and he points to me. >> What? >> And then we're just talking and all. these other comedians come and he's. holding court. He's talking about.

Pam Grier and Jackie Brown cuz he's just. a fan. He's a fan of comedy. He's a fan. of cinema. He just has this childlike. exuberance to him. So, we're just talking and he's in the. thing and we ended up keeping it in, but. it was so surreal. That was probably one. of the bigger ones. Tarantino. >> Yeah, I just remember even the wake of. that night, he's here. Oh, when Jim. Carrey was here, that was a crazy night. >> when they were trying to cast for I'm. dying up here? And and that's how. Santino got cast and Eric Griffin, he. saw he saw them that day. >> Yeah.

It's kind of crazy. Somebody could just. see you and then something like that. happens and they end up on the. There you go, dude. Yeah. Those were great. If I ever have Chris. Rock is ever coming in I remember when. Louie came in years ago and he was like. in the hallway and he was wearing he was. like after like the Am Am the Academy. Awards or whatever and he had on a. uh suit and I was like, "Dang, Louie.". >> That's so crazy. >> And it was like. >> I saw Travolta one time in the parking. lot. >> Really, dude? >> hanging with Tommy Lee, you know. Tommy. Lee I I I've seen him a few times, you. know. So, it's cool.

But I've been accustomed to it, so I'm. jaded with Tommy Lee. Uh but. >> [laughter]. >> but every now and then Tommy Lee will. like a a reel of mine and it's just so. surreal. I'm like, "Woah, what the. >> That's dope, dude. >> What world is this?". >> He and I were just texting the other. day. He's doing real well and he's like. so we were talking about our recovery. programs. He's off. What a life some. people or what a just interesting. existence. But the highs and lows of it all, too. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> Dray, I saw Dray one time in the parking. lot. Dr. Dray. >> Dray?

>> Who's the biggest you saw? >> Uh or you saw Andre Iguodala. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, that's that's what I tell people. I go, "I saw Dray.". They go, "Holy shit.". Iguodala. >> I'm the only person who calls him Dray. other than his mom, maybe. I call him Dr. Dray just cuz I think. he's a doctor of basketball. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Who Who's the biggest person you saw at. the store? >> I mean John Mayer when I would see him.

someone. That was always interesting cuz. I've always like had such an esteem for. his like word. Like the way he does. words like, you know. >> I saw him walking down one time cuz he. would go to roast battle a lot. >> Yeah, and he'd be like him and Jeff Ross. are close and stuff and so I know I'd. see him over there. >> Oh, I ate in front of John Stamos. one time. >> Ooh, that would hurt. >> Yeah, it was late at night. It was when. I first got passed so I'm getting super. late spots at the comedy store. I'd. probably be going up at 1:30 a.m. I think Jeff Ross is hanging so he comes. with Jeff Ross sometimes. Jeff Ross and.

then Stamos. And maybe they tied one on. I think. they'd been like. >> [laughter]. >> Maybe they came from Yeah, yeah. So he's. eating chicken fingers and he. It's his back. So I'm not even I'm not. even getting full Stamos. I'm getting. I'm getting back Stamos. >> Ah. >> And then I would get this every now and. then. And then back to the fingers. And I'm like. "Hey guys. Uh you ever notice notice. this?". >> Bro, that's crazy.

Damn, at least he checked back in. though. >> That is nice. >> Sometimes they'll sit a blind guy to. save money. They'll sit a blind guy by. the side of the stage just facing away. from the stage and like sometimes. they do that and like. >> him towards you. Let me Let me believe. >> Yeah, [laughter] dude. >> Let me believe he's checking me out. he's just sitting over here like a. broken compass over here, dude. Um I'm. trying to think of who else that I saw. there. Oh, dude, I remember they said. the guy Remember that show uh Family. Matters? >> Yeah.

>> Remember the cop? >> Oh, Winslow. >> Yeah. >> Carl Winslow. That's not his real name, right? That's his character name. >> Carl Winslow. They said that his uh. grandson like his Reg Reginald. VelJohnson. Uh they said his grandson was in the. audience one time and people were like. losing their like. And I was so nervous. I hadn't I had. like not. >> That's so funny. I had not been. >> over the Family Matters cop being in the. crowd? >> His grandson. >> Oh, his grandson. >> And so but it was like the first time I. was in LA and I was like, "Dude,

RVJ's grandson is in the crowd." And I. was like, "At first I was like, who the. Yeah, I couldn't figure out RVJ, you. know? I thought it was just somebody who. was dumb who was trying to trying to. talk about a politician or whatever. And. then they're like, "No, Reginald Vel. Johnson, dude. The the cop from Family. Matters, his grandson is here." And I. was like, I'm going to And I was really. pacing backstage being so just like I. just couldn't handle that there was like. somebody who like knew somebody from TV. that was in the crowd. And I. >> You blew it? You go, "Oh, no.". >> Oh, I bombed, dude. My favorite moment.

that ever happened though, one of. anyway, Spade telling me that he thought it was. something was really funny one time was. awesome. Um. but one time Damon Wayans was there. >> Oh, wow. >> And senior. >> Yeah. >> from In Living Color and I grew up. listening to him. Like, "Oh!". >> Just like he has this one like it's a. laugh sound that he makes. It's like. only he makes it. And it's not even a. laugh. It's just like a. "Oh! Oh!". "Oh!" Something like that, dude. It.

sounds like a. a bird that's like semi-interested, right? Like a beautiful bird that's. semi-interested. But um during my set I heard him make. that laugh that I had I'd heard him use. as a character from when I was a kid. And bro, it's just so It was crazy to. me. Like at one thing I said. >> Yeah. >> he laughed at he made that sound at it. And that was enough. I was. >> It's such validation. >> Yeah. >> Cuz we grew up with these guys and they. were everything to us. Even even just. being on a show with Spade or just. talking to Spade.

That was my era of SNL. Spade, Sandler, Farley. That's why I got into stand-up comedy. For real. I love that show so much, SNL. Everyone can make it on social media. now. Everything's fractured so much. But. back in the day, if you wanted to do. anything in comedy, you had to touch. SNL. >> Yeah. >> So. that was everything. That was TikTok, that was Instagram, that was anything. comedy was SNL. That was Mount Rushmore. And I go, I want to do this. I want to. work in the space. How do you get on. SNL?

I fired up my modem. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And and. I unspooled it like dynamite to. plug into the wall, you know? It was a controlled demolition to get on. the internet. >> And you applied to Boeing. >> Right. [laughter] You're like, I'll show. them. >> Pretty much though, because I researched. I go, how do people get on SNL? And I. saw that they came from one of two. camps. They came from improv comedy, so. Second City, UCB, Groundlings, you know, yes and and creating these scenes, or.

they were stand-up comedians. Like Kevin. Nealon, uh. Sandler, Schneider, uh Spade, Eddie. Murphy. They're all stand-ups. So then I. researched all the improv schools like. UCB and Second City. I'm some kid in. Seattle. I'm like, what are these. schools? Okay, they're all in LA, New. York, Chicago. I'm not there. I can't do that. You have to pay money to do it. My. parents already don't want me to be. doing comedy. It's like clown college. They're already against it. I can't say. I'm going to pay money to go to clown. college. And then stand-up I go, "Oh, I'll do.

that." Cuz I just got to show up. And I. get as much as I get out of it or I get. as much as I put into it. And I can. count on me. I don't need improv. partners. I can just. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, you you get everything as a. stand-up. Whatever you put in, you get. out if you have the aptitude for it. So. that's why I got into stand-up cuz I. wanted to get on SNL. So it's so crazy to be at the store and. then just talking to Spade. >> I know. >> being a little kid sitting cross-legged. watching the TV and thinking. Spade lived in a box. Spade lived in a. magic box.

>> Yeah. >> And now he's writing down notes before. going on stage and then bringing me up. in the OR and it's not lost on me. It's. it's it's crazy this timeline that we're. on. >> Yeah. [sighs] I know it's hard to It's. hard to like. It's such a just a good reminder to. think about Yeah, like um. just to also that all the humor that's. come before you, all the what or. whatever line of work are you in, all. the things that have come before you, like. like whether you're a mechanic or you're. using like a new type of like wrench or. some sort of new piece of equipment or.

something like piece people were. mechanics for years doing that and got. to that place or like some machine that. makes your job easier or some new way of. doing it or like. I don't know. Yeah, it's just you forget that like all. these people have gone up over time on. stage to try and say something or. whatever, to try and feed get somebody. to feel something or you or them to feel. something or you to feel something. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if any of that makes sense. >> No, that you're all part of this. timeline. You're all part of this. and they happen to be a generation or so. above and then.

you don't know at the time when you're a. kid, but then you do the same thing for. long enough and then you become a part. of that fabric. And they were just. people like you were at the beginning, but at a different phase of their. uh becoming a butterfly or whatever it. is. And what's mind-blowing, too, is these. guys that I just thought were titans of. comedy. and could do no wrong and and were. blowing my mind, to learn as you get. older that they were afraid of being. fired week to week on SNL. To hear Spade. talk about that or or Norm would talk. about Oh, yeah, we thought we were going. to Or even Sandler, they thought about.

firing Sandler? You go, "What?". >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, or Chris Farley, I mean. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, or just that any of them have sat. in that place like. >> that they were having self-doubt like. that during what I thought was just the. pinnacle and peak of comedy. I thought. they were crushing it so hard and and. they were worried. >> Yeah. >> That's mind-blowing. And then almost. validating for the feelings you have, cuz I have that sometimes. And I go, "Oh, that's just a human. experience." Sometimes you think that. they're celebrities and.

everything's gravy because that's the. packaging, that's what you portray. That. gets jobs. But then everyone is having a human. experience inside of it and it makes you. feel less alone. Like, oh, okay. Even Spade and Sandler felt what I'm. feeling right now. >> Right. Even they were taking a breath. like what do I do next or what's going. to happen now? >> Yeah. Am I going to get fired? Was that. good? I hope people will like it. >> Oh. >> Yeah. >> Same exact three things. It's like, yeah. Those are questions I've asked myself.

since I really joined the workforce at. 14. >> Really? What was your first job? >> Um my first job I used to sell hamsters. but but my adult first job was working. in um. in Italian pizza. >> Uh. >> Worked at pizza Worked in pizza for a. while. >> the name of it? >> Huh? >> Do you know the name of it? >> BJ's. >> BJ's? >> Yeah. >> Wait, the chain? >> No. >> Is it a different BJ's? >> [laughter]. >> That's the crazy part. We were like an outlier BJ's and it's. supposed to It's supposed to stand for.

blackjacks but people would get drunk in. there and just start yelling at. us kids who were working the counter, right? And we'd make up fake orders for pizza. deliveries like Danny Glover wants a. pizza cuz our our guy who delivered was. a born-again Christian. He didn't watch. television or any movies. So, he didn't. know any celebrities at all. So, we'd. make up like Danny Glover wants a pizza. at an old military [snorts] road. So, he'd deliver that while he was. gone. Just try this No way for him to. connect to this while he's gone. So, for 30 minutes he's gone, we'd be. deep frying beer, dude. We would. pour beer, deep fry it, eat it.

We'd get hammered, dude. And he'd come. back and be like, "Couldn't find the. address, you know?". >> Mhm. >> Oh well. >> Oh well. >> Um. But anyway, we're rambling. Um. >> Um here's an old lineup from the Comedy. Store. Uh. >> Oh, yeah. Here's just a great lineup. right here. Thank you. There's Fang Chao, Adam Ray, Argus Hamilton, Owen Smith, Jeff Ross. Who's who is. >> Well, should we be giving We maybe. should black that out because she.

It's a super famous person who doesn't. use their real name. So, let's maybe. black that out when we. >> Yeah. >> air it. >> And if you black it out and if you if. you if you do black it out. and uh want to put a name over it, you could put um. Ali Wong. >> [laughter]. >> Who else we got? Rick Ingram, Andrew. Santino, uh you and me right there, bro. >> Dude, is there anything like kind of. scary or funny or like just all of it.

whenever like you get to bring you like. like when your set's over, it's kind of. like a relief moment and then you get to. bring somebody else up. It's like It's. like getting out of the pool and drying. off and knowing you peed in it. >> Uh-huh. >> You know? >> Well, [laughter] that's a skill you have. to learn because not a lot of places do. tag team like this. So, when you first. when you get past there, you have to get. used to it cuz most shows have an MC and. you do your time and the MC comes up and. then brings up the next person. This is. all you go up, bring somebody else up. They bring the next person up. So, you.

have to get in that mode of like my. set's over, now I've got to turn into. host mode. It's like Agent Smith. Like. All right, this next guy. You know, you. do your you do your last joke and you. go, "How's everybody doing? Fantastic. The show keeps getting better." And you. don't know how to do that when you're. young. But then you you've been there so. long now. You finish your set, you're. like, "All right, this next guy is. hilarious. You're going to love him for. He-Man war.". And then it's just very cool to go up. after each other. >> Yeah. Yeah, dude. It is magic. And just to get. to be in a place where you see other. people and stuff like that, you know?

Where you see a lot of people and see. what's going on. >> Yeah. >> It was like a place to be too at night. It was like It was like, "Okay, I don't. I don't need to be at a night club." I. never knew any of the night clubs that. were popping or any of that stuff cuz I. just didn't know. It was like, "Anav, that that's where I'll be.". >> You know what's so weird? I know, like. the night club scene, I never went and. it's weird cuz I dance. So, people think. like, "You must go to night clubs all. the time." Like I don't. It's so weird. being good at dancing and then hating. going to a night club. I have a private relationship with. dance. I want to I want to dance in my. room. I don't want to go to some like.

laser place. >> Yeah. >> And and like dance. That's not fun for. me. >> Yeah. >> I like dancing by myself. >> Yeah, while some trans mailman's over. there trying to [laughter]. drop something in your drink, you know, he's like, "Oh, I got an overnight for. you.". >> You don't know. >> Yeah, I mean, that looks like fun, but I. don't I don't want to do that. >> Yeah. >> Good for Jon Hamm. But that's not really my speed. >> Dude. So I don't forget. How much how great. was it though? Michael Jackson, bro. Growing up during the Michael Jackson. area.

>> Yeah. >> Oh, Billie Jean. >> It took me a while to realize what song. you were singing. I'm like, this is a. Theo remix. >> Me, too. Because I don't remember. I. remember like a little bit of all of. them though. It's like. >> Yeah. Black or White. >> Yeah. >> Bro, when Black or White came out. >> like early AI. >> Bro, that was so good, dude. >> I remember those videos coming out, too.

It would it would be like a a movie. coming out. The world premiere of Black. or White. Sitting down in front of the. TV. Wasn't Macaulay Culkin he like got it. going? Like yeah. >> Yeah, bro. Black or White. When did it premiere? Let's look at it. Michael Jackson biopic Michael first. reactions. That's Oh, that's coming out. on April 22nd? >> Yeah, that just came out. >> Oh, it just came out? Did we do better than it at the movie. theater this week? >> It wasn't for this week. >> It says Buzz Boys crushes Michael.

>> though. >> Respect. [laughter]. We did best for like for. I think it's. >> congrats, man. I saw the the weekend. >> Do you think it's weird to there to. people or is that kind of like put out. like this is how much we did for the. week or whatever? >> I think just showing. what it is and being like blessed like I. mean, it is really cool that the fans. showed up like that. >> Oh, we'll never make our money back. >> No, I think you will on streaming and. stuff cuz pretty good. I read it was. pretty good for an independent like. >> Per screen it was fourth highest of all. movies last last weekend per screen.

>> Let's go, dude. I didn't even know that. Um Michael Jackson's Black or White. music video premiered November 14th, 1991 as a massive global event. Directed. by John Landis, the 11-minute short film. aired simultaneously in 27 to 69. countries with an estimated 500 million. viewers. Bro, man. People forget that. was when. >> 500. >> we were all like it felt like every you. could meet somebody from another. language, even somebody that was in a.

coma, and you could at least. both knew. >> Yeah, you knew Michael. Like you. couldn't speak the language, but then. you like grab your dick and he goes, "Ah, me me too." "Me me too. You me.". And then he would lean. >> Yeah. "You you too.". >> I I love watching old Michael Jackson. tour footage. Cuz it's just so fun to watch and cuz he. was the biggest thing on Earth. And. you'll see like European 35-year-old men. fainting. Like. >> Yeah. >> Michael.

Michael. >> [laughter]. >> Literally getting gurneyed out. Did this guy this guy went by himself? He went with his bro like I would have. to get a new job or something. >> His brother's waiting in the car. probably. >> Yeah. Like. Yes. >> Yeah, there it is right there. >> Who's doing this to people. today? >> Nobody. Maybe Bieber. >> Yeah, but. >> But I mean not to this degree. >> Not like that. >> No one's doing that. And look how old. they are. Bieber's they're younger. These are like 40-year-old they have a. family. >> Yeah, this [laughter] is someone.

This is someone's grandpa. >> And he's just standing there. He's just. standing there and they're fainting. >> God. >> Like they Imagine paying all this money. to go see Michael Jackson and he's just. standing like a statue and you you wake. up in the hospital. >> [laughter]. >> You spent you spent all that money. And they go, "Where's Michael?" They go, "Michael left. He's in Barcelona now.". >> [laughter]. >> I saw him remove his glasses. And that's. all I remember. >> Yeah. >> Well, he he did all his songs and he. glided. I miss it.

>> Yeah, you missed it again. >> Every time. He's like, "I swear I won't. faint this time.". >> Yeah, he promises his whole family won't. faint. He wears something like a like. >> A neck brace. >> Yeah, something just to keep his blood. like. >> And the like Clockwork Orange. >> He he tapes his eyes open. He's like, "Not this time.". >> He has to like three mortgages to pay. for these Michael Jackson tickets that. he always faints through. >> Dude, God, Michael Jackson was a thing. And that was one thing at school that. all the kids could do like You know,

"Hee hee." Yeah. >> It was. It was more about the dancing. Kids. weren't trying to like out-Michael sing. each other. We weren't like. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> It was more about the moonwalk. >> Yeah. >> We didn't come to like recess. >> Dude, you had the moonwalk. My was. a little bit more like the Pluto. shuffle, boy. My [laughter] was. My had a limp and had a bit of swag. in it. I got to remember this story I. just heard this story actually today. It. was like a second-hand story that one.

time Mike Tyson and Michael Jackson. they went out together. Like just all. they were going out on the town. And. Michael had a bunch of chicks with him. Michael Jackson had a bunch of chicks. with him. And Tyson was like, "Hey, which one of these girls is with you? Just so case I'm flirting with one or. whatever." And Michael Jackson told him. "They're all with me. Get your own. bitches." That's what he told him. >> For real? >> That's what I heard. And I really heard. that. >> Wow. >> I heard that. I actually heard it today. >> I just love hearing that story like. through the filter of his voice.

>> Yeah. >> They're all with me. Get your own. >> [laughter]. >> And it's funny they both kind of have. similar falsetto voices. >> Oh, yeah. Hey Michael, how many of these. can I I don't want to step on any toes. They're all my. >> [laughter]. >> Get your own, Iron Mike. That's on call for Mike. That's on call. for Mike. Whatever, Mike. >> This is the battle of two falsetto. Mikes. Bro, you didn't even have to have any. friends, I bet, when you were a kid, dude. You're just doing your own.

thing. [laughter]. >> Well, if I get the idea, but I mean I. don't I don't eat I don't eat breakfast. and I'm just like talking to myself in. the like this is fun. Cuz we're just like riffing and. but I'm not eating Cheerios and I'm. like, "What if. What if instead of Cheerios I'm eating. >> Do you notice so you like so you so your. imagination must be pretty active. You. probably have an active imagination. I. think that's a safe thing to say. Do you. notice there's things that kind of dim. it kind of or do you notice you've ever. noticed certain times or in your life or. like kind of periods like that you've. gone through or even like things you've.

like or activities something you've. engaged in every time where you're like, "That I noticed that that takes away. like it kind of dims like my brain's. ability or medication even." I'm just. asking just curious. Because we never. think about like what we do and how it. affects our imagination. >> Yeah, yeah. I mean I'm I'm very. personality and energy-based. Like if I. feel comfortable and safe, I can have. fun and be. these ideas will come to me and I feel. comfortable sharing them, but if I if I. don't know someone as well, I'm I just.

find it's happened enough times where. I'm like kind of reserved and I I go in. and I'm not. I'm not so forthcoming with ideas or. whatever. I'm just kind of like in in. myself. So, I have to have cuz I think at the. end of the day I am an introvert even. though I do stand up. So, it's kind of weird if you're at a. party and they're like, "You're you're. stand up?" And I don't I'm not really. talking or anything. >> Yeah. >> But in my mind I'm like I I don't I. don't know you. >> [laughter]. >> You know? It's just I Maybe some people. have a stereotype of what a stand-up. comedian is where they're at a party and. they're like, "How much does a polar.

bear weigh? Wait, enough to break the. ice.". I'm being I do a got your nose. >> [laughter]. >> You know? I just kind of lay in the cut. cuz I don't know anybody. >> Yeah. >> And I'll latch on to whoever I know, but. I'm not like a social butterfly and I'll. observe and all that, but. I can't have real fun unless I I'm. accustomed to you and I know you and we. have history. >> Yeah, there's some comfortability. >> then my creativity can think can come. out. Um so. I just noticed that. Yeah, so it's kind of like energy based.

Even doing Rogan, like Rogan's so. awesome. He's afforded me a career like. you a career. >> So many of our peers owe so much to him. Like I'm able to tour and like you make. a living and stuff and it's awesome. But I I I just. I don't know him as well as I know you. and that show is so big and stuff and. I feel like I can't be as me as as I can. with you, you know what I mean? Cuz he's. also an elder. He's uh. he's a few generations above me in. stand-up. So I feel like I can't be as. silly as maybe But then you're a silly.

guy, too. >> Well, yeah, and I mean Joe's probably. he's probably only one generation ahead. of us and maybe that. >> Yeah. >> But he likes information and he's like. >> wants to figure things out. >> like a learner. >> Yeah. >> You know, like the rest of us are. [laughter] out here. The rest of us are most of the time out. here kind of gooning around and. >> South American wasps? >> Yeah. >> What's your take on that? >> And but Joe's like he's generally like a. curious dude. Like he's like super. curious and he really is. And it's got. he remembers everything. That's got to. be almost I wonder if that's almost.

hectic sometimes. >> It's to retain all that information. I'm. so envious of guys like like Rogan who. knows so much or Dave Smith or Tim. Dillon. They're so well-read and. worldly. >> And I'm like, "It'd be funny if some guy. fainted under Michael Jackson." It's. just I feel so dumb. >> But it's just different, you know? We. need Joe to like You need somebody that. was just going to interview everybody. Like I'm going to talk to every single. person. I'm not going to have too much. say-so in it or anything, you know? Um I. don't always think he's done a pretty. good job of staying unbiased about. stuff. Like And And sometimes he steps.

in when he feel like, you know, he tries. to like like we all do like say this is. really how I feel about something. Um. I was on a show a couple weeks ago when. people were giving him a hard time. online about him like not being. supportive like about antidepressants or. something or something. And um. and people will take a clip and make it. like a big deal, but I didn't feel that. way at all like in our conversation, you. know? So sometimes it's so weird the the. things that people clip. >> I think it's so big and it's so singular. that people like adding their spin to.

whatever it is. You can take any clip. and add text to it and then you're. funneling people's viewpoint into that. So much of what we do is just the. clipped version of it. >> Yeah, that's a good point. >> much agendas. I think that's great about the show is. that it breathes for 3 hours and then. have all these different people and then. people kind of decide for themselves. But the whole clipping on X is kind of. it's like a game genie. It's cheating. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, it feels a little cheating. sometimes. >> [clears throat]. >> Yeah, but people are like, yeah, he's. not supportive and stuff and I've never. felt anything. In fact, as I've gotten.

to know him better over the years, which. is which is he's such a busy dude, I. think like imagine like I look at my. phone it's like my mom is texting me, you know, she's she's like also send me. some emojis that aren't always most. positive and some of them I think means. things that she doesn't even know they. mean. So a couple of veggies she sent. me. I'm like, this is yeah. >> Eggplants, Mom, you should never be. Don't tell me you're making eggplant. Just say eggplant. >> Yeah, just make it, dude. You just make. it. Don't even bring it up. >> Or she uses like that open mouth emoji.

all the time and I'm like, what are the. tongue out? She's like, it's kind of. crazy. She's like, it's so hot today. She'll squirt squirt. It's so. hot today. Squirt squirt. So hot today. I'm going to make a couple eggplants. And I'm like, dude, what are you? Gosh, she's just she loves gardening. So it's. just like, you know, it's just. navigating like that. But imagine. you're Joe Rogan you open your phone up. It's like Elon Musk has probably texted. you, you know, like the some guy like. some guy whose name you can't even read. from like another country who wants to. come on your podcast. They'll like beg, you know, and then your wife also wants.

stuff. Your kids are asking. Just like. he's like a thoroughfare for humanity. >> You know. >> He'll still text us back. It's crazy. Like I'll text him and then even to book. his show, he's like, "How does He does. it?". >> I know. >> He doesn't I mean, not to call you out. I mean, you have a producer. I love you, but like it's fine to get everybody else. that's producers. Rogan is like, "Hey, how's how's this day sound?". >> I know. >> That's bananas. >> Yeah, dude. But sometimes it's like we. don't watch the whole episode and people. don't know things. >> Yeah, well, we live in a hot take. society, too.

>> It's kind of crazy. >> Well, there's money in it. So, there's. money, there's attention, there's views. So, >> Yeah. >> you just have to pull back. and try not to be so susceptible to it. Like as you get older, you just realize, "Okay, this is. >> Yeah, I think sometimes it's like, I. don't know. But yeah, I felt I yeah, I mean, in that. instance or with that specific thing. with Joe, it just felt like, "Man, I. wish. this isn't what I felt like happened.". You know? >> Yeah. >> And yeah, and he's just he's been super. supportive. He always kind of checks in. over the years. Like it's gotten a. little bit more real check in or invite.

me out to dinner with his wife and his. kids. Like little things like that. It's. like where I know it's hard It's. probably hard for him to even be around. a lot of people a lot cuz it's just a. lot of energy you give out. >> I remember we went to. dinner in Austin one time. It was. It was him, Tony, Lex Friedman. I'm. trying to think who else. Who else? It. was like a bizarre. You're like, "What is this life?" you. know? We're at some Italian restaurant. And then he changes the gravity of a. He's so big. You forget it's Again, it's. one of those things of like I see him at. the Comedy Store all the time and I just.

see him as a a comedian. I know him as. that. But then you enter the real world. and you kind of see how everyone else. reacts to the same person. >> Yeah. >> So, we're just eating dinner and then. this pasta would hit the table every now. and then. And then we look up and. there's like a 45-year-old woman just. like throwing pasta to get his. attention. She's like, "Hi.". And he's like, Yeah? >> Yeah, I just, you know, I just wanted to. say hello. And he's like, Why don't you come downstairs and say hi. like a normal person? And I'm like,

Okay. I didn't want to bother you or. If [laughter] you're going to throw in. pasta, it's it's way worse than just. I don't know what was going through this. lady's head, but she was just throwing. pasta on the table the whole time. >> emails, brother. That's all. >> [laughter]. >> That's all it is, bro. Just humming warm. pasta at Joe Rogan's table. That's. crazy. >> emails? >> Um. But yeah, anyway, I think it Yeah, I. think it's got to be I don't know. Sometimes you think of what is it like. to be him cuz he's he's an interesting. guy.

>> Um There's a question I want to ask you. Can I do that? [clears throat]. >> sure. >> So, okay, we were doing one of the shows. and then I don't know if you even heard. it. You're on stage. And then some. random person was like, Talk about road rules. >> Oh, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> And to me, it's just so absurd cuz. you've done so much past beyond that. You're kind of like you're like, Does. anybody even remember that? How did you take it, that part of your. life? And then what was that kind of. fame? Cuz that was MTV was huge. That's. sort of like what TikTok is now or being. a streamer. >> That's a good point. I never thought.

about it in a correlation like what. That's what TikTok is now. >> Yeah, think about any young person. who's famous. MTV was that for us. That. was like the vessel. >> Well, it's probably where Michael. Jackson premiered on, I'm guessing that. it. one of the networks that it premiered on. cuz I think MTV was semi-universal at. the time. >> Yeah, that was our TikTok pretty much. Like if you wanted anything young, it. was. >> that. >> And I also have to stop too, like young. people today have it so nice that the. entertainment they watch is made by. young people. When we were growing up, we were watching like balding.

30-year-olds try to be in high school on. TV shows. >> And some of them were probably touching. the kids they were working with. >> Maybe. Maybe. >> We don't know, but all the. >> There's a pretty good chance that that. was happening. But we were watching an approximation of. youth. >> Yeah. >> You know? Like that's cuz that's all we. had. We're watching Yo Mama. We were. watching Wilmer Valderrama host. different factions of Yo Mama groups. >> Yeah, now if you're 10, you can find a. 10-year-old like or now if you're 20, you can find a you can find like. >> Somebody who speaks to you. >> Right. That's a good point. I never.

thought about that exactly. >> Cuz even um. Like I'm trying to think. Like yeah, MTV, there was like older people that. were people who were watching that were. 12 or 13. It slanted younger, but you. had to watch. Like these are the youngest people I see. on TV, but they happen to be. 20 or 25. Like 90210, how old were they. during shooting that? >> They were probably 26-ish, I would bet. Maybe. >> Like one of them was full-on like. balding. >> Yeah, [laughter] that's a good point. He. was in high school. >> I'm like, this isn't the teacher? They gave a teacher a backpack?

>> Bro, remember that? Yeah, those were the. shows we would sit and watch. Oh dude, 90210 was like it was the show with with. for my family and then I'll get back. into your question too cuz I don't want. you to think I was trying not to answer. it. Um it was that was the show for my. family where like we were all uh. at a Shannen Doherty, Jennie Garth, Tori. Spelling, Brian Austin Green, Jason. Priestley, Luke Perry, Ian Ziering, Gabrielle Carteris. Uh 29 years old. >> Yeah, I mean I mean some of them are.

young. Yeah, some of them make sense, but some of them are a stretch. >> And this is when it started too. So by. the end, they were all mid-20s. Right. But dude, yeah, that I like that. show was a show where like like. probably I'd watch with three of my. siblings and we were all like two years. apart. So we all had like different like. one of us was watching it was like cool. about school and one of us cuz it was. cool it was at a high school and one of. us was watching cuz like you know, we. hadn't gotten to hear about things that. like older kids do or anything like. that. And then um one of us was just.

watching to see like if there was any. leg showing or anything like that or a. little bit of. sexy time or something, you know? But yeah, dude, that was a. juggernaut. How many people watch that show, I. wonder. So, so many, I'm sure. >> unbelievable. Luke Perry passed away a few years ago, didn't he? >> Yeah. >> And Shannen Doherty. >> Ugh. Yeah, that show was wild, dude. Uh, yeah, for the Road Rules stuff, the. crazy thing for me was. sometimes I can't even remember it. >> It's that long ago.

>> It's that long ago, I think. And I think. I've just had like, you know, we get. busier and like with comedy, you're. doing a lot of stuff. Like you're. performing in a lot of like, you know, you get up almost every night. And so. so I think that starts to take, you. know, uh, that starts to take over a lot of. space. Um. one thing that was, I think in in. hindsight a blessing about that. experience was that I kind of got to be. like you got a level of popularity. there, but you didn't like with doing. Road Rules being on MTV, but you didn't. have any money, right?

>> Mhm. >> So, you had no and you had no, uh, the. only way you could get like any like. kind of. you had to keep going back to them to if. you wanted something else, you know, you. just had to be in their world. And And. part of it was a blessing and stuff like. that. You got to do cool stuff. I'm not. complaining. But, um. but. but one thing was I I realized at that. time that like. there wasn't a like being popular was. cool, but there wasn't like a ton of. value to it. Like for years I kind of. thought like, oh, it was this cool.

thing. But then I was like, well, what. is it for? >> Mhm. >> Like where does it really, you know, like. you know, I'd end up having a long. conversation with drunk dudes at a bar. or something with some monster. that corners you and you're like trying. to look over his shoulder for like. hopefully hopefully some woman's giving. you eye contact. You're sitting there. just. just stuck inches away from some. dude's non-deodorant. >> Uh-huh. >> You know, but yeah, I think I realized. that there was wasn't a lot of. that fame had like there wasn't a ton of. value to it. >> Well, especially monetarily it wasn't.

there, right? So, you just had fame, but. you didn't have you didn't really own. your fans kind of, right? >> had everybody like, oh, look Look that. Damn, he's up, you. know, or he's at the you know, he'd be. at the bus stop at school. Just normal. that's totally normal. You're in. college. >> Yeah. So, it just gave you a bunch of. conversations you didn't want to have to. be in or. >> Yeah, well, it maybe look at the values. of popularity. Like, what value is this? Like, yeah, it's valuable to me in the sense of. like, if I'm going to be out and uh or. if I want to get help getting into a. nightclub or something, but I don't. really have a voice for myself. I didn't. really have.

um anything to show for it. You didn't. make any money. So, it was um. You get some fun experiences, but then. you were also left with a lot of people. who knew you who you were. and no way to hide from it. You know, like I remember I was even after that I. was sleeping on my buddy's floor for. like probably a year, you know, uh. So, I don't know. It just It almost felt. like I don't know. It just gave you a. look at what popularity was and the. values of it and the non-values of it, I. think. So, then. like I started coming in and then you 10. years later I had this whole other.

experience. And most people don't even. know about the first one or they just. didn't put it together. I don't know. what happened. >> Cuz I so rarely hear about it. >> a deep cut. >> Yeah, sometimes I wish I reme- like I. think I was just at a young play- like I. was just at a place where you just. energetic and frenetic and You're. just trying to get laid and trying to. just jerk yourself off or whatever and. tell and lie to people say you got laid. or something. >> Uh-huh. >> Um. >> Well, I guess now people cuz you were. glomming onto this other thing that was. kind of bigger than the pieces who were.

part of that show. So, it almost feels. like you're renting that fame or you're. just a part of the assembly line. >> Yeah, I felt like I didn't have any It. didn't represent me. Like, it none of it. I and it felt like I didn't They can. edit things the way they want, which are. fine, but it's not my I don't get to be. the I don't get to be. the be-all end-all of me, right? Like, I. I don't get to say exactly how this is. this is for me. >> Right. >> Um. But, I don't know. It was cool that I. got this. One thing I think I'm It's almost kind. of grateful to God about it is that I. got this like trial run at what it was.

like to have some popularity. And so, then whenever it happened again, I think. I've been able to navigate it. differently. >> Mhm. >> For myself. >> Yeah. >> Um not always great, but I've definitely. had a different perception of it. And uh. and a different understanding of the. potential values of it in some spaces. >> Right. >> Maybe. Does that make any sense? >> No, it does cuz even. to People have an idea of what fame is. and but there's like levels to it as. well and you think you want it. I think. especially when you're young just. because the things that you want fame. will unlock immediately. Yeah. But those.

are kind of. primal wants. Once you get past it you. realize okay, it's not as great, but. it's great when you're 18 or 20. >> Yeah, if you're just trying to become in. or whatever or getting meals or. whatever. Yeah. It's. >> and meals is great, you know? Coming or. meals famous great for that. >> I mean that's all. >> But like why am I here? That's harder. >> [laughter]. >> If you want to bust and have like pad. thai. it's. fame is awesome. >> [laughter]. >> You'll do those for free. But if you.

like you know, what are these. relationships? Are they built on lies? It's harder for that. >> Yeah, it's harder. >> [laughter]. >> So I don't know, but um. but yeah, sometime we'll have to Next. time we do an episode we'll have to go. down some of those roads roads or even. just roads of like shows that we used to. watch and Thinking about some of. that's fun. Um so you started out in. business you worked at Boeing. What were. you doing over there? >> I was doing engineering. So I was doing. stress analysis at Long Beach. So the. Boeing out in Long Beach. That's what I went to school for. I did.

mechanical engineering. And but I knew I. wanted to do stand up when I was 18. I. was very young and and then I just. applied to jobs in SoCal and then I got. a job at Boeing in Long Beach. So. >> And what is a mechanical engineer just. so people know? >> There's different facets of it you can. go into. You can do like HVAC. That's. that's. an industry you can go into just like. heating and cooling. You can go into. Some people work at Toyota or with cars. and then aerospace is a big employer of. mechanical. Um just think about anything mechanical. There's going to be mechanical engineers.

like Tesla. Just, you know, any anything mechanical. Um, so then yeah, I I got my degree and then. I knew I wanted to do stand-up and as a. stand-up back then there was no internet. really or I mean or social media. You. had to go to New York or LA. And then I'm like, "Eh, my parents are. in Seattle. I. I kind of want to do entertainment as. well, TV, movies.". So I chose LA. So then I that's I used. to apply to jobs in LA and then I got a. job at Boeing in Long Beach. >> And you hadn't started doing stand-up. yet? >> No, I did. I was the summer after I. graduated high school,

I was 18 and then I just started going. to the comedy clubs in Seattle. >> Did you see Adam Ray? Was he there? >> He didn't start yet. >> Oh. >> So I think I met Adam Ray. >> Moote? >> Yeah, Moote Moote was there. Jeff Dye. actually started a few years after me, maybe like two two or three years after. me. Um, so there was this some funny. people coming out of Seattle. Um, but Adam. Adam didn't uh, I met him bef- but he. didn't start in the scene there. He. started out here in LA. He went to USC. But he wasn't at the mics or anything. like that. >> Oh, got it. Adam Ray.

>> Yeah, Adam Ray. Um, yeah, so that's how I ended up in LA and. working at Boeing. I was there I was. there for like four years and then I. quit. >> Was it cooler over there? Like is there. like a nice space you guys have like a. lounge or like a community area? Like. what's that? >> It was so quintessential like Office. Space-y. At least I was envious cuz tech was. having this boom with Microsoft, Google. People are on Razor scooters, jumping in. a ball pits and You know what I. mean? Like tech looked so fun. And then. >> That's crazy. [laughter]. >> But just to hear somebody say that it.

just shows you how people are so. different in different places where they. grow up. >> Yeah, yeah. I mean tech looked so. >> ever where I'm from has ever said tech. >> [laughter]. >> tech looked so fun, dude. >> You're saying no one in Louisiana said. tech looked so fun to you? >> I don't think so. >> You were getting a lot of kids saying. that? >> No. It's okay though, but it's cool. though. It's just cool how. places are different. Um, it's and did. was your parents like a lot of pressure? Did you have a lot of pressure? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. is your What ethnicity. What are your parents from? >> Afghanistan. >> From Afghanistan? >> So, they came here from there and. So, yeah, there is that stereotype.

that's. >> that stereotype? Like, is it a real. stereotype? And is it just for. Afghanistan or is it for a lot of Is it. similar? >> Just like uh um. >> You know. Oh, it's immigrants. >> It's an immigrant thing. If you leave. your country and you come to America, you don't want to hear your kid is. hitting the mic. >> [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? Like, we evaded. the Russians for you to try this new. bit. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you know. >> That's true. >> I'm like, you don't understand. This. joke has legs. Just let me do it three times. And if if. it bombs, I won't do it anymore.

>> Yeah, Mom, it's about Waymos, dude. >> Waymos. >> We just got Waymos in Nashville, too. >> Yeah. >> And people are You can see. people out there. >> like them. >> Well, they're called I'm not saying. they're out there yelling you know, at them. >> all right. They call them Momos. >> Or just We're all like, you Momos. Get the out of here. >> Or Wagers, they're calling them. >> Wagers. >> I'm like, that's insane to be What's. happening, you know? >> Yeah. It doesn't even know a slur is. being thrown at it. It's just It's just. trying to get. its people to where it's got to go.

>> Yeah, dude. Well, I saw you. Dude, this reminds me now. You had. something You're like, the drive the car. started complaining. it was having a bad day. Was that you. saying that? >> Oh, yeah. It was like a Waymo. I forgot how it went. You know it's. funny. I mean, maybe I have it on my. Instagram somewhere. But, like. I think you had some tech guy on cuz one. of my buddies hit me up cuz you. mentioned me. Anytime you name-check me, I have you know, huge friends who are. huge fans of the pod. And they're like, "Oh, Theo talked about you." And And I. saw the clip and you're talking to some. tech guy. He's like, "Do you know who he is?" And.

he He has no idea. And you're telling. him the Waymo joke. And he's just like. staring at you like paint drying. But, you're just telling him my joke and he's. like, "Yeah, yeah, that's great.". >> Maybe it was Alexander Wang. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Was it? >> Uh-huh. >> Oh, that's great, dude. >> Oh, yeah. Maybe this is the one. >> Yeah, let me see this, bro. This is. good. >> it goes. >> I got to take one recently. I get in, there's no driver, and the Waymo goes, "This isn't my main thing. I rant.". And it was quiet for a while. The ride. is pretty quiet. And then out of. nowhere, the Waymo went, "We need to.

build a wall.". >> [laughter]. >> So it was like it was like a MAGA Waymo, I guess. And we hit a guy. We hit a person. Just flew over the car. And then the. Waymo went, "Oh, you got to help me.". >> [laughter]. >> What do you mean I got to help you? He's. like, "You're a part of this now.". How would I even help you? He's like, "Chop it up into smaller pieces.". "Throw the parts in the back." I go, "This has happened, [laughter] Waymo?". He goes, "You have any coke?".

I go, "I don't know. You're a car. How. do you even do coke?" He's like, "Put it. in my charge port.". I go, "Yeah.". "Let's go to the car wash.". >> [laughter]. >> That's strip clubs for Waymos. >> Strip clubs for. >> I'm just like doing a screenplay for a. picture money about a Waymo. >> Dude, that's great, bro. Everything you. But that's like I feel like you do like. a million of those every single time. It's just like, "What about this?" And. it's like some new thing, man. It's. always so novel. You're one of the. people that when I see you or like. it just makes me like, I don't know.

It's just like it's like the purest. thing. It's like, "This is something. funny. Let me see how it goes." You. know? >> cool that you like noticed that or. appreciate it because that's honestly. the whole reason I do stand-up is I. think of something and I get I I think. it's funny and I I want to share it and. I hope that people validate what I this. idea. Like, does this idea work? Does it. have legs? And when they do, it's the. best feeling in the world. Whenever I do stand-up is just I I hope. you think this is funny, too. >> Mhm.

>> Like I don't need them to laugh or. whatever, but I'm like, I thought this. was novel. Do you guys find it novel? And there's just such a joy in that. And. when it works, I'm the happiest in the. world. So I'm chasing that. >> Yeah, why is that you think? What is it? mean, obviously we want to make people. happy like it's fun to make somebody. laugh or something like that. Like. there's something so perfect about it. I. get it. It's like there was nothing here. a moment ago and now like you're. laughing or we're both laughing. Like. that shit's pretty dope really. >> For me, when I have a bit that like I. know works, I get less of a rush cuz I know it. works. >> Mhm. >> I know the joke works. So it almost.

feels like there's a it serves its. purpose like when you do the road and. you're celebrating those bits that you. got to that place. But if I'm just working out in town, I'm. like I already know I already know the. joke works. So it doesn't scratch the. comic itch in me. But if I can get something that's. mediocre or or a brand new thought to. work, that's when I get all the like dopamine. and stuff. I'm like, what a rush. That's. like catching a big wave for me. >> Mhm. >> So I'm just yeah. >> Um as a mechanical engineer, do you.

think that. cuz we've been talking about things that. are black and white. We've been talking. about Waymo's, Michael Jackson. But yeah, in the spirit of continuing to. talk about things that are black and. white, do you think that we went to the. moon? >> I just caught it right now. Jesus, that's so funny. You just like kept on. drilling down on it and I finally got. the black or white thing. >> Yeah, yeah. Do you think that we went to. the moon? You're a mechanical engineer, dude. And you left the business cuz. you're like, all these they don't Why. did you leave? >> Uh I was finally doing well enough in. comedy where I could. So that was the goal the whole time, but.

I mean. most of us had a double life it until. you got to the point where. the art was doing well enough to abandon. ship. >> Did you have a last day do you remember? >> Yeah, kind of. Oddly enough, I had. I had booked this MTV show and they. needed me for 3 months. And I I didn't even want to leave. I. didn't even want to quit. I just I. wanted to do a leave of absence cuz I. planned on returning after shooting this. MTV show. I'm like, yeah, I you know, can I come. back after 3 months? I have to take this. leave. And they're like, no, you can't.

do that. You can't take that much time. off. And then I read that. uh you can only collect unemployment if. they fire you. So, then. >> Yeah. >> So, then I just sent an email. I go, "I. will be. leaving on this day and I plan on. returning this day." Just to let them. know that I plan on returning. And then I just I just left the office, you know? And then I wouldn't answer. their calls or emails or anything. I was just waiting for them to terminate. me, right? >> Right, cuz then you can get. unemployment. >> Then I get unemployment. Yeah. Yeah, I'm.

playing 4D chess, guys. >> [laughter]. >> Dude, yeah. There's levels to this. thing. >> So, enough time I'm dodging them. I'm. dodging them. Then finally I get a. voicemail like, well, okay, well, we've. terminated you. I'm in my shitty apartment that you just. saw where I'm dancing with Jynco jeans. >> [laughter]. >> And I'm like, yes. >> Free at last. >> Free at last. So, >> Actually, you got to put on. Alister the soundtrack and just. >> Uh-huh. >> put on your favorite, uh,

ballet boots. >> Mhm. >> Um, >> So, that's why I left. I I finally was. able to It was still dicey though, even. even though I left, I wasn't making tons. of money or anything, but it was too big. of an opportunity. I'm like, oh, this is. an MTV show. I. I should do it. What show was it? >> Disaster Date, of all things. >> Oh, that show was. >> that? >> No, I remember Elimidate. Remember that? >> Elimidate. I remember that, too. Remember Third Wheel? >> Yeah. >> Remember the theme song for Elimidate? You'd be like, Elimidate. >> Yeah. >> Elimidate.

They would have time cards. I think I. was. Was that Elimidate? You'd be like, "Why don't you have a 30-minute. timeout?". >> Yeah. >> And be like, that gave me a. timeout. >> Dude. >> And then she'd be with her man. >> Yeah, the best one of them whatever one. was that they had a dude who slipped off. and did a bunch of yay and came. back. Yeah, that dude was. [clears throat] bagged up when he came. back. And that was the best, bro. And when they had like three or four. people and they had to pick who to let. go and sometimes you'd be shocked. That. was good. That was Elimidate. >> Oh, okay. Okay.

>> They like three or four of them or I. think four or three and then each time. they would let somebody go and then they. had to pick the last one or whatever. >> Then there was one called Fifth Wheel. that there was on a bus or whatever. And then. >> Did you get to be the datee? >> So the premise of the show, oh my god, I'm so young. >> Disaster Date. >> You're just you would just be a terrible. dater. So friends would set their. friends up on the date and then they. would see how long they could last on. the date and you're just acting wild. And however many minutes they last they. got a dollar a minute, which is like.

nothing. Why would anybody do this? So if they sat through. >> be Somalian and make millions, dude. You. know what I'm saying? >> Yeah, so not worth it. Remember Jeff Keith was on it? Kate. Upton was on. >> this. >> Yeah, it was like Boiling Points for. Dating. >> I remember this. Was this with. Sally uh. >> Yes. >> With that production company? >> 495 Productions and their big show was. uh Jersey Shore. >> Yes. >> And this was the red-headed stepchild. that nobody watched. >> Got it. >> Cuz Jersey Shore was like huge.

>> Yeah. >> And I remember there was a wrap party. for I did two seasons of this. Like we. did. a wrap party 495. And Jersey Shore was there. And then we. were there too. But like nobody gave a. We were like. the the Temu show. So um. >> Disaster Date. >> Snooki was there, Mike The Situation was. there in the heyday. >> Yeah. >> So I have I have an old picture of like. me and Snooki. and me with The Situation and he's doing. this like very on brand. [laughter] He's. like.

He has aviators and he's like. and I'm like. >> Bro, that shit's so great though. >> Yeah. >> Um. What was I going to ask you about? Oh, do you think my Oh, yeah, but on the. engineer side, do you think we went to. the moon? Like does it Cuz a lot of. comedians have a good sense I think. sometimes of like. >> Uh-huh. >> Because they're making a lot of. >> Right. >> So it's like they know, you know, how. much is on the scale at times. What do you think happened, man? >> I'm not as smart as people think I am.

just cuz of the title. I think we did. It's tough cuz like yeah, I worked at. Boeing and I was an engineer, but then. people think that I'm way I'm I just did. a bunch of school. I was good at these formulas and I did. it, but I really don't know a ton of. stuff, but I think we do we did go. there. >> You did? >> Well, I look at the footage of the the. iPhone. That was kind of cool. >> That just came out? >> Yeah, the astronaut was in there. It was. pretty cool. >> Let's get his Yeah, let's take a peek at. that. Who's the first wigger in space do you. think? Have they done it? >> Mhm. Like test their blood to see? >> Yeah, [laughter] no, no, we're just like.

Just like bonafide, send a real. Jason Williams up there. You know what. I'm saying? >> Just for science. Like we want to see. how their body reacts to space. So we're. sending Jason Williams up. And he's he's elbow passing to other. astronauts. Dude, imagine the passes he. could do in zero Gs. >> Bro. >> But that that looks Come on. If we get. to unlock Jason Williams on the moon, that'd be so sick. That looks like a. sperm going to an egg kind of. >> That's true. That is true. >> Dude, this is crazy. So that's a picture. some guy just took on his iPhone?

>> One of the female astronauts took that. >> Probably her man being like, "Where are. you?" And he's like, "Bullshit.". >> Yeah, she goes, "Space. I told you.". >> And [laughter] then she sends that back. >> Uh-huh. "Prove it.". It's the night club. I've been there. >> Oh, yeah, didn't speaking of space and. wiggers and everything. What that's a [laughter] crazy. statement. >> That that sounds like a Comics Unleashed. segue. >> Speaking of wiggers in space.

Dude, [laughter] that's so Byron Allen. He'd be like, "Tell me about that." He'd. be like, "Oh, sorry your mother died. What else is. going on with you, Tommy?" And he'll. just like keep it moving. >> There's an art to it. Congrats to Byron. Allen. They get they got that new time. slot. So yeah, good for Comics. Unleashed. They give a lot of, you know, screen time to younger comics and stuff. and. >> More people see. >> one, too. So yeah. They've done they've. done a lot of that for people. >> Um yeah, and since we're on the subject. of space and wiggers. let's they just had a marriage proposal.

>> It's gender reveal. >> Oh, I'm sorry. It's the Yeah, this is a. gender reveal. No matter what gender that baby's going. to be mixed. That's just wigger-nomics, homie. >> What if they do an ultrasound and the. baby's like. >> [laughter]. >> He's just like his dad. He's like. >> Pop, lock, and drop it. >> You see him walking in the womb? >> Dude, yeah, they don't.

Wiggers was everything when I was a kid, man. >> I mean. I feel like you used to be able to say. it freely. Some people get tense about. like are you allowed. >> To say wiggers? >> Is it still Can we? Is it back? >> Yeah, it's back. >> left? >> Dude, half the NBA. >> Mhm. I feel like they're euro, though. We. used to have. >> Well, bring up a couple euro wiggers if. you can. >> Is that the new term? >> I guess it is. I mean That's a great. question. Who is kind of a euro. a euro dub or a.

>> they're mostly euro dubs. >> You think? >> We used to have homegrown dubs. >> Yeah. >> Now we have these foreigners. >> Did they have a lot of dubs up there in. Seattle? >> Seattle? There's every middle school has some. dubs, but they're not real dubs. >> With all that rain up there, a lot of. damp dubs, huh? >> Damp damp dubs. There's some damp dubs. You know what's funny? The university I. went to, UDub. >> Ooh, ooh, ooh. >> Yeah, University of Washington. >> Dub nation, dude. Panics, bro. Um.

How could If you're a wigger, how can. you even get married? Like you're. already. married to the streets, I feel like. >> It's a good point. Maybe it's like. polyamory. Like are you Are you open to. an open relationship? It'll be you and. the streets. >> [laughter]. >> Will you share me with the streets? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> That's an open-minded gal. >> Oh, I left the trenches to get you and. let's go back together. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I love that idea. It's almost like. that movie with um. Robin Williams. >> Which one? >> Uh What Dreams May Come? >> You say What Dreams?

>> Oh, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> What Dreams May Come? Wet Dreams May Come, dude. As of course they may. Yeah, dude. Bro, there's nothing kind of shadier though. in like. Like that There's nothing kind of. shadier when you get wet dreamed or. whatever by God or whatever because it's. like. it's like sometimes you like if you. especially you're going through a time. period where you do not want to be. ejaculating or whatever. >> Right. >> And then God like wet dreams you or.

whatever and you're like, "Oh, damn, bro.". >> of a gift. It's like, "Thank you.". >> Kind of, dude. Oh, we had a one of our. previous producers, this kid Riley Mau, he used to pray that God would touch him. in his sleep. So he'd be able to cuz he didn't have. any He never ejaculated. >> And And would God answer? >> Yeah. He said he would. I bet that was. just damn like. >> Do you ever have it happen where you're. like not at home and like now this is. tricky? That's not ideal. Like in a way. game. >> Like when you're sleeping somewhere. away? >> Like when you're a kid and like you're. at somebody else's house like this is.

No. Now you're like Dexter. >> I only. >> [laughter]. >> Like how do I get rid of this? Or am I just crusty? Do I just have drywall? >> [laughter]. >> I don't I only come local, bro. That's. me, you know. >> You have no control over your brain. Sometimes it does it. You would never. have it happen. >> I don't think so. I wet the bed at a lot. of people's homes. >> Mhm. >> I wet the bed. >> like that's more acceptable. >> It kind of is, which is crazy. >> way more liquid. It's Yeah. >> Yeah, it's kind of crazy how if you wet.

the bed at somebody's house, they're. like, "That's fine. Let's help you out, you know.". >> Mhm. >> But you ejaculate in your sleep at. somebody's house and they're like, "Oh.". >> Get out. >> [laughter]. >> You go, "I could have wet the bed.". Damn, that's different, dude. What else. we got? What's popping, guys? >> Some of the robots. I love that robot. dog in the Atlanta apartment complex. >> Oh, yeah, let's see that, dude. Yeah, especially since you worked in tech, bro. Let's I want to get Let's get your. viewpoint on some of this tech, dude. Oh, did you ever get to meet Bill Gates?

>> No. >> What if I was like, "I was at Epstein. Island and I got to meet him briefly.". >> [laughter]. >> I was trying to ask him about Windows, but he said that he had to He had to get. to a room. I thought that was odd. I was trying to. troubleshoot my. my Dell my Dell PC. >> Do you ever hear rumors about him or. anything? Like, what was he like? >> No, I mean, I had no idea. I feel like a. lot of the with those five you're like, "What? This person?". Who would think that. Bill Gates is doing You know what I. mean? >> Yeah. >> Did you have any idea? >> Yeah, I think money, you know, you get. so much power and you get. >> understand why these people but like.

nobody would throw a dart and think it. would hit Bill Gates. >> That he would be involved in something. like that? >> Yeah, when I was a kid in the '90s, this. guy talking about. >> Windows, think he's going to be on a. Epstein Island. >> And it's crazy to think how they all. like they made everybody out there like. Michael Jackson is a pedophile or. whatever, right? And he may or may not. have been, we don't know. But there's also evidence out there that. he was getting with a lot of women. >> Right. >> Mike Tyson Mike Tyson will attest. >> Here's Bill Gates right here. Let's see. what happens. Uh this.

>> Oh, yeah, he jumped over a chair. >> Why did he do it? >> Just to show that he could do it. This. was like impressive back in the '90s. >> He's hitting on Connie Chung. >> She's married to Maury Povich, right? >> This Chung jumper. Jump for Chung, dude. That'd be a good. uh. That'd be a good Asian Olympic thing, wouldn't it be? Jump for Chung and it's. a fundraiser. >> Right, for the family. >> People jump as far as they can for. Connie Chung. >> I would Yeah, I would jump.

>> Jump for Chung. >> How much money do you think you could. raise for that? >> [laughter]. >> Um [clears throat] have you seen some of. this tech since you're the tech guy, dude, and you worked there for so long. >> I'm the resident expert and I'm just you. just anointed me as the resident expert. and I'm kind of dumb. >> Let's take a gander at this, dude. >> Now they got the robot dog. in the hood patrolling the. apartment. What the type of AI is it? What the He look like he finna.

bite your ass. >> Excuse me. Hello. >> Oh, baby, they what. >> How are you? >> Uh, where where are you at? >> I'm good. >> This is a person only y'all. >> So. What what y'all got this robot DOG IN. HERE FOR? >> To watch the people so they don't take. so. >> I'm sorry. So, we're actually like the. robotic security dog here. >> So, what y'all got to tell us?

>> [laughter]. >> Look at that alien. >> Huh? Everything is being monitored in. the building. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Dude, a lot of black people they didn't. want you to say what's up to them, bro. Once they they said hi, bro, everybody. was chill, you know. >> robot dapped them up and stuff? >> Oh, The robot's wearing like a couple chains. and next week. Dude, they're going. to fix that thing up. Popping, bro. They're going to get that thing in. a little suit. It's going to look like. LaVell Crawford in a month.

That going to be dope as hell, bro. They going to get that thing. popping, bro. It's going to be. beautiful. That's crazy. What do you think what. I don't know if I could be a cop, man. I. don't know if I could be. I could be a dog. >> Like a cop dog? Or just a dog? >> to be a dog that lives outdoors. Those. old school dogs. Like when I was growing. up they had dogs that lived outdoors. And I remember the first time I ever saw. a dog that lived indoors. I went to my. buddy's house. and a dog came around the corner, dude, and we were inside and I was like, "Whoa." And it was like a blonde dog. It. was like.

beautiful. It looked like Susan. Suzanne Somers. Remember her? >> Oh, yeah. >> Remember how beautiful. >> Thigh Master, yeah. >> I mean, just beautiful this. thing came around. And it lived inside. And I could not even believe it. I could. It blew my mind. I was like, "You got to. be kidding me.". But it was so beautiful it deserved to. live inside, right? Like I'd seen a lot. of dogs that hadn't had. missing teeth, missing eyebrows, or whatever, missing all kinds of. you know, just. dogs that We had a dog that couldn't go.

forward or whatever that was. always So he'd He was something. He His His shoulders His front shoulders. were uh. um calcified or whatever. And so he had. a. So we had to go backwards. It was like, "Damn this motherfucker." But he would. still get you, you know what I'm saying? So that'd be crazy. At first you're. like, "This ain't get me.". But then, bro, 2 minutes later, he'd. have you cornered somewhere, bro, with his He'd have you. cornered with his dang And he's. You still hear his voice, but it's going. the other way, bro. And that's the kind.

of I grew up around, bro. But yeah, what do you think, man? You. think you could be a dog? You think you. could be a cop? >> I don't I don't know if I could be a. cop. >> If you were a dancing cop though, Fefe, and. >> Well, now you've sweetened the deal. You. You buried the lead, man. Maybe that could be a way to recruit a. lot of people who normally wouldn't be. cops. You lead with dancing. You might. get some Broadway folk in there. You. might get me. >> [laughter]. >> Can I like twirl when I apprehend you?

>> You do whatever you want. I think if. there's a cool way to hit the cuffs on. hit to hit the cuffs on them, you know? >> Yeah. >> Like what song do you want to listen to. while you get arrested? That sort of. thing, you know? >> Do they choose, or do I get to choose? >> I think you guys each get one. >> It could be like Miranda rights. So you. could choose whatever song you want. played while I arrest you. And they go. to their Spotify. And then while they're slammed against. the car, it's like a Kendrick track. >> She's like, "Damn it, lion.". >> It makes the experience better, right? >> Yeah. it's just a mystical bumping me.

>> [laughter]. >> CAN'T BE WITH A KNIFE IN MY HAND. Be cool. >> What was his biggest song, Mystikal? >> Did I do that? >> No. >> That was that was Urkel. >> [laughter]. >> But Mystikal I think he sampled that in. his song. >> Shake it up. >> Yeah, shake. >> Watch yourself. Shake it up. >> He was one of a kind, bro. >> What he was. cousin with Master P? >> Yeah, they were something. Black people love to be cousins, bro.

>> This is true. [laughter]. >> You know what I'm talking about? >> They do. Brothers as well and sisters. >> White people don't love it as much to be. cousins. Black people. >> That's a good point. Yeah, cousin is is. an umbrella term. >> Yeah. >> But I feel like. even like Afghans will use cousin. loosely. >> Really? >> Cuz sometimes there's a family friend. that's so close. that just saying friend doesn't quite. describe it. And then cousin is almost. like honorary cousin. >> Yeah. That's fair. And your family changes as. you get older. It's like people will. come in your life and they really.

represent a lot like something that's. very meaningful, like a meaningful. connection, you know? >> Yeah. >> Cuz sometimes friend isn't really. doesn't really do it justice. And then. sometimes those people kind of leave, you know? >> Right. Like if you grew up with someone. from the age of four and you still know. them, I almost feel like they feel more. like a cousin than. than just a friend. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's kind of cool. Tell them. like you've been upgraded to cuz. >> Yeah. They get like a like a text an. automatic text. Um. Yeah, what was I going to ask? What is. this about?

>> Oh yeah, I was going to say the weed. thing. >> Is yours? >> No, I. >> Your mother said she found this in your. closet. >> I don't know one of the guys was. >> Lost of what? >> Look, Dad, it's not. >> Where did you get it? >> Dad, >> Answer me. Who taught you how to do this stuff? >> You all right? I learned it by watching you. >> Parents who use drugs have children who. use drugs.

>> And to think years later our own country. would be. forcing us into drug use, you know? [laughter]. And profiting off of it. Like this kind. of crazy. >> got to be in a pill form though. >> Yeah, >> [laughter]. >> it's got to you got to bottle it up. >> But dude, that was crazy. That was hard. hitting. >> Yeah, back in the day. >> Or when they had the thing in your high. school, remember when they had the. don't die like this and it'd be like. if they got like if they always did it. around Halloween cuz they had extra like. blood in the area or whatever and they.

would. they somebody would be like hanging out. of a burning car and they'd set the back. of the car on fire and it would all. happen like out on the football field. and you have to go watch it. >> Yeah, just sort of like a scared. straight. >> Yeah. They would make an accident scene. and be like. this could be you. It's kind of gruesome. >> Yeah. >> We should probably shouldn't have been. seeing that that young. Of course not. Dead people like. >> It was crazy. And then they'd always hide a bag of. coke on a kid or something let that drug. dog go find it. And then people like, "Oh William got coke on him.". And then for the rest of his life he'd.

be like, "Damn, William got coke on him, bro.". >> Yeah, just to make an example out of a. kid even though he never did it. >> [laughter]. >> Just ruin his life like, "You don't want. to be like Daniel, huh?". >> I know, Daniel got that bag. >> It's so sad watching these videos cuz. our childhood is in 360p. That was two. pixels. >> I know. >> That was just two blocks. It's so sad. If you're if you're dating. a younger chick or whatever you go, "Oh, check out these highlights of Shawn Kemp. dunking.". >> [laughter]. >> And it's 360p. It's so grainy. >> I know, she. >> Our childhood isn't in high def like.

these these kids today. >> clear to us back then. That's what's. crazy, bro. >> I feel like it was just hard to get the. fidelity of It didn't look this bad back. then, did it? >> It had to have. What do you think. happened? >> VHS isn't great, but I feel like it's. better than. I think broadcast TV is a higher. resolution and they can't they couldn't. translate it to digital. >> Yeah. >> Um your new special that's coming out. uh Intrusive Thoughts. >> Intrusive Thoughts, yeah. >> This is your third special?

>> It's my fourth, I think. Yeah, it's my. fourth special. Yeah. >> Damn. >> Well, I'm at the point now where you. kind of tour for a year and then you got. to hang the painting somewhere. You kind. of get it tight from city to city and. then. you you got to I'm done with these. jokes. >> Yeah. >> You got to film it and then put it out. there and then move on. So, it's less. about putting a special out and like, "I'm huge." That used to be the thing. back in the day. >> Yeah, means you feel some type of way. Now it's like almost just like uh like. closing the diary. >> picture. It's a stand-up picture. This.

was me for the past year when I was on. tour. Here are the jokes. Cuz everything. is so clip-based. cuz everything is Sorry, can I like fix. this? I'm like garbling my. >> you're fine. Also, everybody's. >> Thank you. >> The fact that you put together like 11. sentences is way better than most of us. in the world are doing, dude. >> Cuz everything is so clip-based and. that's great, but it's nice to show that. you can do a cohesive. 45 to an hour. It's sort of the difference between. breaking a vase into a million pieces,

but I'd like to see the whole vase. This. is what I was doing on the road. Here it. is and hopefully people like it. I want. them to watch it, but now I get to move. on and that's kind of nice. You just. dump all those jokes from your head and. then who am I now and let's talk about. that. >> Yeah, dude. Intrusive Thoughts, that's. awesome. And where can people watch it. right now? Is it is going to be on. YouTube? >> be on my YouTube channel. >> people be able to pay there for it, too? >> If they want, you know, but honestly. just a super thanks, a thumbs up, comment, share it with a friend. I just. want people to see it. That that'd be.

the best. >> Awesome, dude. Yeah, send me a few Send. me Send me a clip that you really like. or something that you want If there's. one that I can help reshare something or. if there's some stuff on TikTok, let me. know. >> Okay. Yeah, definitely. >> Don't You You will let You will let me. know? >> Yeah, I'll let you know. Yeah. And thanks for being so supportive, man. Like taking me on the road, having me on. this pod to get the word out on the. special. It It means a lot to me, man. >> Oh, thanks, dude. I appreciate it, man. I had one other question I want to ask. you. Like I feel like in my lifetime, like a lot of people that are from the.

Middle East have gotten like a bad rap. like in or or they've gotten negatively. possibly negatively. like branded by. media kind of. When I say that, does that Because you. always hear stuff like um. you know, these people are jihadists or. these people are like even the term. Muslim to some people makes it seem like. that that person is like a person with a. bomb or like um. Do you think that that's a real thing. that's happened? um.

And then. uh. And then what can you say like about. like people from that like Do you think. people from some of those areas like. hate America? Or like maybe don't have. to go that far, but just like Can you. take me out If I say that kind of stuff, does it make you think anything? >> I mean, you're not far off in terms of. the branding of Muslims over the past. couple years, especially post-9/11. You felt it if you were that. >> Yeah, y'all took the L for that, huh? >> Yeah, for a while. >> Did y'all do it? >> I think we took the L inadvertently just.

Muslims in America and. >> But did you guys do it, do you think? Or. but did [laughter] Sorry. >> That'd be funny. This whole podcast is. is leading up to Did you do 9/11? I'm like, "Yo, you know me. You brought. me up on the store. You know I didn't do 9/11, Theo.". >> You're right. My bad, dude. I just. >> This has just been like a honey trap the. whole time? Just to get to this? >> Yeah. Sorry, dude. I gave Candace I was. my like remote control. She's got me. today. No, no, but do you But do you Yeah, what. is that like like just like even having.

any like your parents are from like the. Middle East, right? Your parents are. from Afghanistan. Yeah, yeah. is it like. What is that like? I don't know. You know what it's like? It's kind of I mean, I had this joke. about it. >> Because how can we change if it's not. true? Like, if somebody that's like, "I. don't know." I feel like it's not. I don't know. >> I think it is changing. With the. internet and social media, you can't. paint people with these broad strokes. that you used to back in the day because. there was only certain channels that you. can get information from, and it could. be controlled very easily, and people. would just buy into a narrative that.

like, "Be scared of Muslims. Be scared. of Latinos. Be scared of". But then there's TikTok, and there's all. these There's so much information now. that people can form their own opinions. But. yeah, it was dicey for a while cuz every. time. there was a, you know, 9/11 the. temperature was. if you happen to be that, you you felt. it. You know, when I would fly, I would. be secondary search, and. I grew up with Boy Meets World and TGIF. I'm just as American. I watched. Saved by the Bell, but you just happen.

to look a certain way or. and there's nothing you can do about it. Um, I always say it's I used to have the. joke where it's. being a minority is kind of like having. an away jersey you can never take off. >> [laughter]. >> That's kind of what it feels like cuz. I'm sure people, Americans, you know, white Americans have been to. Say you're a Rams fan. And then you go to. I don't know who their rival is. >> Probably Seahawks. >> All right, yeah. Then you go to a. Seahawks game in your Rams jersey,

you're going to get some flak. But you're still you. You're You're. still Doug. You're a nice guy. You're. Doug from accounting. And they're. spitting on you, and you go, "Nah, I. just I like I just happen to be wearing. this I can't take it off. It's bolted. on.". >> [laughter]. >> It should be a Saw movie. Just You can't. take the Rams jersey off at your rival. team, and they just beat the out of. you. >> [laughter]. >> So, you're just a human and a a pure. soul and all that, but you happen to. have this coating that gets taken a.

certain way. So, I don't know. maybe maybe that's how. I perceive it. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm just curious. about that sometimes. And then yeah, did. them does it feel like the media like. made it like these people are bad people. kind of? >> It's definitely a tool. I think it's. leverage for some agenda sometimes. Um. but I might I don't automatically just. need your go to go to that. Yeah. I. think people have are generally pretty. nice people and but. >> Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I was just kind of curious cuz. sometimes you just like you start to.

think like I think you look back at the. world like your lifetime you're like. what things are like did we land on the. moon? What things really happened? I. think a lot of people are in like a. series the most space I've ever seen in. my life like people are coming up to me. and like movie theaters and and. like asking me about about. Nepal or like. Tibet or whatever it's like what? >> [laughter]. >> Well, we all have to be experts now. It's crazy There's just so much. information and then we're learning. we've been lied to in so many instances.

And then you go if the you'll go down. the rabbit hole. It's like if this then. if that's the thing. And then you keep. on you you hear you see this tweet, you. see this video, you see this Tik Tok and. then the Epstein stuff is still going. and then. all birds going AI and then [laughter]. this shorting the stock and all that. stuff was going on these time these time. things with the stock market. Uh. your brain gets overloaded. You There's. so much. How can I know? You just get. paralyzed but. >> Yeah. And then you try to calm down and then. you and it's hard to get away.

from from the intrusive thoughts, dude. >> It's true, man. Well, full circle. >> Full circle. >> [laughter]. >> Um Faheem, dude, thanks so much, bro. Uh yeah, I hope you just continue to. obviously do what you were obviously. built to do, bro. There's nobody that. does it like you and. um yeah, I hope people love the new. special intrusive thoughts and we'll. make sure to share stuff about it. And. yeah, dude, thanks for your patience, dude. I appreciate it. >> man. Yeah, anytime. Thank you for having. me. >> I'm glad we got to do this. This is fun, dude. Sorry if I talked about too much. serious or. >> No, not at all. >> You know, just trying to be alive.

>> For sure. Doing our best, you know. >> Yeah. While they let us, bro. >> Mhm. >> BLM, dude. >> Now I'm just floating on the breeze and. I feel I'm falling like these [music]. leaves. I must be. cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, [music] I'll share this piece of mind I. found. I can feel it. in my bones. But it's going to take.

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