Duncan Trussell | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #667

This episode is sponsored by Mountain. Dew. Look for American DeW limited time. packaging or find it in stores near you. at Mountaind.com. Today's guest is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and just a downright uh. cosmic. adventurer. Adventurer. He's got his own show, The Duncan. Trussell Family Hour, and his new. podcast, Mystery Boys, with Kurt Mezer.

Always a blast. The one and only Mr. Duncan Trussell. and I will find a song. [music]. >> Whoa. Look at that. What kind of cameras are. you guys? Jesus Christ, he's so. inspirational. >> These are FLOCK CAMERAS WE'RE USING. [laughter].

>> YEAH, PALUNTEER, BABY. PALUNTEER. >> We now work for Palunteer. These are. We're using flock cameras. >> It's incredible. >> This can see this can see right all the. way through my eyes, through my past, my. history, >> all the way into my mother's body. >> Past lives. >> Yes. >> Get into your past incarnations, too. It's pretty cool. Tech is amazing these. days. >> We good. Look at. >> the lighting. You guys are good. Look at. this [ __ ]. >> What do you mean you have a podcast? You. have. >> [ __ ] dude. This is next level. You like. I love Josh in my studio is great, but I.

don't have this kind. Like I look at me. I look good in this light. >> Dude, [clears throat] you definitely. Bro, you look I will say this. >> It's the lighting. >> It's KNOSA wagon times, right? Like it's. the old days and it's like, you know. >> Yes. >> It's there's a Kosoga wagon. >> Yes. >> And it stalled out on the side of the. road, right? >> Yes. Cuz anything could have happened. when you had a Konosoga wagon because. you had wooden wheels. Remember? >> Yeah, I do. >> And dude, you could have gotten termites. overnight. >> Many things. Termites. I mean, just. think of wooden wheels on some old.

[ __ ] up. Nobody's paving roads back. then. You're going through forest, creeks. Your wife is guessing where a. road could be. >> If she's still alive, she doesn't have. an arrow through her throat. If she's. not choking on her own blood spray, your. wagon's stained with blood. >> Yeah. You had 11 kids. Your wife has had. kids this week. >> This week? >> Like that's It was like that. People. don't realize what it was like. >> Oh, no. No. People don't. >> We know cuz we've had past lives. >> Yeah, I remember. >> Oh, dude. I remember sitting on like a.

um. like a hillside or whatever cuz. everything back then was a hillside. >> Yeah. All hills. >> Remember that? >> All hills. >> Remember everything was a hillside. It's. like now there's like a lot of pavement. There's flattened areas. >> Thank you, CERN. The [ __ ] particle. accelerator [ __ ] everything up. Now. there's flat places. It used to just be. a series of hills. >> Everything was a hillside. >> I know. >> Everything, dude. Even people's bodies. You'd have one like you'd have the. strong side of your father and the. weaker side because of how he walked to. work. >> That's right. >> You know, cuz you'd have to walk at an. angle. Everybody was.

>> diagonal. >> Yes. >> Everybody walked diagonally. >> It was so different. But dude, in the. like e your wagon could easily you wake. up in the morning, some termites had. showed up, right? Like a gang of. termites or Italians some people called. them, right? showed up. >> Yep. >> And ate a spoke off your wagon wheel. >> That's right. >> And you got a flat. >> Well, Italians used to eat wood. >> So, you would literally You wouldn't. even know what it was. Was it like a. wild ravaging group of Italians or was. it termites? >> Yeah. You'd have no idea.

>> Yeah. Knesogga wagonwood was like the. precursor to pizza apparently. >> Oh, it's called the first pasta in some. cultures, dude. That's the craziest. thing. >> Doesn't Knis Stoogga mean pasta? It. means pasta wagon. >> Well, dude, it's just of course like you. could see like some strong jawed Italian. showing up, right? >> I mean, >> jaw. >> Well, he's so strong jaw just because, you know, his neck and everything is. strong from wearing all of his chains. They wore like all the chains.

>> Yep. >> And he's so jacked and he. [clears throat] just sees a [ __ ] warm. wagon wheel. It's warm cuz it's been. rolling all day. >> Yeah. Plus the stink of birth of wagon. birth. >> Yeah. And then yeah, you'd hear them. come slithering out of the woods down. the hill. You're lucky if you were on. top of a hill cuz if you're at the. bottom, they just sled on down. >> Dude, you'd be standing at the bottom of. a hill and an Italian would just roll. right up against your leg. >> Yep. >> They just That's how it It's gravity in. Italians, >> dude. Back then, their stomachs were.

just like like calloused underneath the. hair. It was just from sliding down. those hills, attacking the wagons. It's. a thick [ __ ] callous that helped them. slide. >> Yeah. >> Terrifying times. People are ahistoric. these days and and you know if we don't. remember history we're [ __ ] Like you. got to know what actually happened, what. this country was founded on. >> And I want you to say that word again. People are ahistoric. And what does that. mean, Duncan? When you say. >> it means they people don't give a [ __ ]. about history. They don't care. No one's.

looking back. Nobody No, most people. don't. And not just like with like US. history, world history, but like musical. lineages and stuff. People just don't. really care. >> Well, reparations people are looking. back. >> Yeah. But. >> they've got a that's the that's the. ultimate rearview mirror is people. >> Like you if you ride in a car with. somebody who's like big on reparations, there like seven rearview mirrors in. their car. You notice that? >> That's a lot. Like but you have to stop. like with that kind of thinking, you do. have to stop at a certain place. You. can't you have to like stop in a certain.

frame. You can't keep going back, >> right? >> You have to stop there is where you But. come on, man. Wouldn't you like if there. was some way for you to get reparations, wouldn't that be amazing? Like people. start that's that's an incredible income. source, you know, >> if they can tap it. I think one of the. biggest groups um or some of the biggest. groups that probably have at least uh. called out to the gods of reparations. probably in our time would probably be. black or I don't know if it's. African-Americans. I don't know if it's.

black people in general, but I think it. would be some African-Americans, people. that came from Africa. Yeah. into. slavery or their ancestors did. And then. Native Americans like what about we that. tab was never paid. >> Listen, this is why we got to invent a. time machine because once we get that. [ __ ] time machine, we could go back. in time to the actual colonizers and. slaveholders and take their [ __ ]. [ __ ] That's true reparations cuz. they're the ones who did it, right?

>> You know what I I mean, the idea with. the reparations is like we I mean, I'm. not trying to call you out. >> Everybody knows you have slaves now, >> but uh I I I am not a slave owner. Come. on. We all know what's going on in. Nashville. Come on. I'm sorry. I don't. mean to. You guys can cut this out. You. guys can cut this out. >> No. >> But I, on the other hand, don't. I I. not doing as good. I DON'T GET THE. NUMBERS YOU'RE GETTING. SO, so you know, you do you should pay.

reparations, but otherwise we got to get. a time machine. Man, >> what would we do though? Here's the. thing. I'm saying this and I'm going to. be honest with you. We get a time. machine. >> Yes. >> We go back first of all in time. >> Mhm. >> Right. [gasps]. And we get there, the colonizers. I just. don't how what is our strategy going to. be when we get there? >> We've got guns. What do they have? >> They have guns. That's how they did it. >> Yeah, but not not like AR-15s. They've. got like shitty musketss and stuff. It's. going to be very easy to colonize the.

colonizers. >> Nope. What if there is a metal detector. when you get into the time machine? >> Disable it. Like it's my time machine. You don't think you What? You think. that's just part of the build? Like. >> you think a time machine is going to. come without TSA, dude? You think that. the government in Israel is going to let. us have a time machine without TSA? [laughter]. >> You're right. They ruin everything, man. They ruin everything. You're going to. have like offmarket underground time. machines that are going to spaghettify. your ass when you travel through time. It's not going to be safe.

>> I will say this, bro. They will have. like [laughter]. there's no way you're getting a TSA free. time machine, dude. You're going to have. like some lady over there who's like, "Oh, you got a baby milk in there or. something." They always like they the. first the thing I hate is the baby milk. Or if you're even a woman with full tits. like, "Yeah, what's in your tit?". They'll be like, "Oh, what's in your. tits? Is it baby milk?" Dude, I feel so. bad for old people, pregnant, and new. parents going through TSA cuz like they.

get [ __ ] up. They're aggressive with. them. They like make you disassemble the. baby carriage. They scan the baby. It's. like, what the [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Like, you going to need to open. his diaper up. And I'm like, [laughter]. I'm opening. >> What are you doing? What do you think's. in there? >> It's crazy. >> Now I'm a [ __ ] peeping Tom just cuz. I'm second in line now. It's like I'm. getting drawn into crimes. >> Uh we're about to travel with a whole. family, Theo. And like are you and you. and we got a new baby. We got a. 5-month-old. And you just I just got to.

prep because they do not treat you. kindly. God help you. If you're a. breeder and trying to travel on the 4th. of [ __ ] July, you are my wife. I'm. fine. You just have to stand on the. other side and you just watch it happen. The pat down, the disassembly, the the. scrutinizing of the tits. Oh yeah. Oh, that's the worst. And the worst is if. that they look at your wife's tits like. they wouldn't have any milk in them, >> right? Like what do you think's in. there? There's a baby right there. What. do you think? She's got nitroglycerin in.

her tits. [laughter]. >> What do you think? She's [ __ ] Yeah. >> Why? Why are you doing this to us? The. kids are screaming. >> What do you think? We're trying to get. food into Gaza or something like what do. you think? What's happening here? >> Bringing my dad's ashes, too, to scatter. them. So, it's like going to be double. It's going to be the most dramatic TSA. of all time cuz I just am so worried. about like what are they going to do. with my dad's ashes? >> Yeah. >> Are they going to search him? What's in. there? >> Yeah. >> What's in my dad's ashes? I have no. idea. >> Oh, what could be? >> Sometimes it's a moler. I know there has. been a look. What is that? What's the.

most common thing found in human rem uh. in dad's ashes [laughter]. and Duncan? Uh good to see you, dude. Good to see you, Theo. >> Thank you for just making. >> uh the most common thing found in your. dad's ashes. >> This is actually interesting. Take us. through this if you don't mind, Duncan. >> Oh, I'd love to. Uh calcium carbonate, of course, that's some bone stuff. Trace. minerals such as sodium, potassium, and. magnesium. Trace metals, implants like.

surgical screws, pins, or dental. fillings after processing. Oh, that's. pretty cool. Bourbon crystals. If you. had a southern dad. >> Oh, I see. Yeah. Oh, just from like uh. like salt buildup or something. He'd. have bourbon crystals build up around. his bones. >> Crystallized bourbon whiskey. >> I could see that. A little bit of uh. probably some racial jokes. [laughter]. A lot of dads would have like you're. just sifting through the sand of your.

father and like a [laughter]. >> just like. >> an n-word flies out of. >> at least 30 pock jokes. who like no one even understood why your. dad was always making you didn't you. didn't even know what a pullock was when. you were a kid but like [laughter] they. were apparently really dumb based on. your dad's shitty pullog jokes. >> Oh man, dude. Duncan Trussell, thanks. for being here today, dude. >> Happy to be here. >> Um and dude, I want to say also. congratulations. You and Kurt Mask have.

a new podcast, The Mystery Boys. >> That's right. Yeah. Dude, it feels like. our producer Trev and I were He was. talking. Oh, is that a bug? >> Mosquitoes. >> or a spy. >> Could be a spy drone. It could be a. drone. >> Dude, if the drones get that small, we. are. >> They are. They already are. >> Well, let's If we start there, it's. going to. Every podcast now starts there. >> By the way, whoever's surveying us with. your mechanical mosquitoes, you're an. idiot. It's a [ __ ] podcast. You can. just watch the podcast. You don't have. to double film the podcast. Dude, we.

have we've we've had people on that had. their room searched afterwards to make. sure that they didn't leave like a a. listening device or something like that. >> Oh yeah. You're getting that level of. guests who are living in like it's so. crazy how like the more powerful you. get, the more you live in a surveillance. state. Like you know what I mean? Like. the the Trump, he's the most surveiled. person on the planet, right? Like he. lives in the most high security place of. all time. He must God like and it's not. just like Secret Service monitoring him,

>> right? It's people that he thinks are. his friends that he I bet he doesn't. even know. I bet he doesn't even care. >> I bet he does. >> You think he does? >> You got to feel that. You've got remote. viewers from like various countries, trained psychic spies. You've got. ghosts. You've got, you know, a variety. >> eavesdropping ghosts. >> Eavesdropping ghosts. Malevolent. entities. Time travelers. You've got. witches actively cursing you at every.

hour of the [ __ ] day. Think of the. way. That's why any president, look at. them. Look what happens to them. They. melt down. They're crushed by just the. sheer weight of a cult energy being. leveled at them by all variety of. sorcerers, necromancers, garden variety witches, like hardcore. mountain wizards. You just don't even. know what's coming. >> Susayers, REI counter employees. >> Yes. evil eye in you. Just like you've. got the evil eye on you at all time and. so you just get all [ __ ] up and you.

like look at Trump. He's got those. splotches now. He's like he's like. falling asleep. Obama. Look at Obama. He. looked like a ring wraith when he came. out. >> Oh, he was white by the time he got out. >> He [laughter] was He's totally like just. withered. All of them. >> Obama. Look at this. >> Look at 2009. Hope, joy. 2016, you've blown up. countless innocent families with drones. You know what I mean? You. >> just doing Clinton's work. Still doing.

Clinton's work. >> Look at [ __ ] Lincoln. >> I know. >> All of them. It does it to all of them. Look at that. >> Well, first of all, there were only two. photos ever of Lincoln taken. [laughter]. >> So, there's all we have is a before and. after of him, dude. >> Yeah, it's true. >> That's true. And also, people looked. like he was probably 23 in both of those. pictures. Dude, you know what's pretty. wild? I was thinking about this the. other day. There's not another famous. person with the last name Lincoln. >> Whoa.

I don't know any Lincoln. >> Like there's him. There's him. Abraham, was that his name? Or Abram? Abram. >> Abra. >> Abraham Lincoln. >> And then Mary Todd Lincoln was his wife. Yep. >> Who was kind of like And then his son. Tad Lincoln, I think, who died. >> Oh [ __ ] at a young age. Um, what did. Tad die of, but no other famous Lincoln? Think of one. >> I don't know any. >> That's pretty unbelievable. >> I know like a lot of people whose first. name is Lincoln. I don't know any famous. Oh, there you go. Edward Baker Lincoln.

He died on February 1st at age three. Tuberculosis. >> These are the kids. These are his. children. >> William Wallace Lincoln. >> Wow. >> Cool name. Died at the age of 11. Uh, typhoid fever. Thomas Lincoln, known as. Tad. His cause of death is tuberculosis, pneumonia, or heart failure. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> But people don't people do not. understand and we do not understand that. this was the president of the United.

States and three of his kids. >> Yeah. >> died by the age of 18 of tuberculosis. >> Um whatever the other one was, I think. just and one of them probably was gay. and they killed him. That's always. happened. That was one out of three. kids. >> Yeah. And then they say they say that. they give it a bigger name. Yeah. Like. pneumonia. >> Heart failure. >> Yeah. Heart. Yeah. Heart failure. >> Oh, we know what happened. >> But dude, isn't that the craziest way to. describe G? It's like he should love a. woman, but.

>> he had heart fail heart. His heart was. failing, >> but his heart failed and liked men. >> and he fell into the pigs. Fell into a. pig pin and was devoured. >> Yeah, >> dude. I'll tell you. It really it looked. like he was like planning for a. beautiful day at a picnic basket. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, he. >> he had a letter to uh Randall in it, you. know. [laughter]. >> Dale Randall, I know that you're but a. peasant, my father's president. But, you. know, I'll tell you. >> that's wild. Think of how wild that is. You have three children. >> Four. >> You have four [ __ ] children. Four.

children. >> Yeah. You just had another child while. we were finishing this sentence. >> Yep. >> But just imagine that. Go on. Anyway, what were you saying? >> No, you didn't finish your point. Imagine like when you have kids, you you can no longer watch Dine. I used. to be able when I was single, I could. watch Dine. Some murderer came in, killed a bunch of kids, exploded a house. with kids in it, killed a mom, and the. kids watched. And you know, it sucks. It's It's sad, but whatever. >> When you have [ __ ] kids,

>> anything about a kid dying, any It's. like your DNA changes for real. Even. dads. Wow. So, it hit so hard losing. three of your children. Like, I can't. even imagine. I can't even imagine. You're You're not sleeping anymore. You're You can't You're just a walking. corpse. You're You're gone. Your heart. is never going to be better after that. So, that might explain why Lincoln. looked like [ __ ] before he got. assassinated. No offense, but this is. what it's like. You know, this is human.

existence. That's how you know having. becoming a breeder really teaches you. >> when you choose to have something when. you choose to create more. And then. we're all we're all victim. of. like at that time everyone was a slave. to the lack of knowledge maybe. >> Oh yeah. >> Is that is that a realistic thing? >> Oh, I think so. I think like back then. you get an infection, you're dead. They're sawing your arm off. >> I don't even think they had like they. had ether. They didn't have like the. incredible anesthesia that we have right.

now where they can dial in just the. dose. They know the exact amount of time. before you wake up. Back then, I think. they were just like putting a rag on. your face if you were lucky. >> Or somebody sometimes would just whisper. in your ear like this. You're not. feeling anything. You're not feeling. anything. You're not feeling anything. >> You don't feel this. You're dreaming. You're dreaming. They're just sawing. your [ __ ] arm off. That was what it. was like back. Look. >> Yeah. You're dreaming, dude. >> This is actually great. You guys are. good. 1850s average cause of death, tuberculosis. >> And what was tuberculosis? Let me say. real quick, the single biggest killer in. many places, especially among adults and.

children, which is everyone. It's a. weird thing to say. In one 1867 Kentucky. sample, 18 of a 100 deaths were from. consumption. Similar patterns held in. 1850s. What is consumption? Can you give. me some Can you also be looking up what. tuberculosis is? >> I think that's what they called it. Consumption, right? Like that was the. that's was the name for consumption. >> But dude, imagine you get invited. probably one weekend at school. You're a. school kid, right? consumption is an. archaic historical term for. tuberculosis. A highly contagious. bacterial infection primarily attacking.

the lungs. >> Coughing up blood happened to Edgar Alan. Poe's wife. She died of tuberculosis. Like just everybody you would have. little This is I think where the. handkerchief in the pocket came from is. like if you wanted to politely cough up. blood in front of people at dinner. parties and stuff. So. >> yeah, cuz if you were poor, you just. coughed it in your hand or whatever. What's up, dude? That was what it was. like back then. >> But dude, imagine one weekend as a kid. This is This could be a real life of a.

child back in the days. >> Yeah. >> You go to a kid's party. One weekend. Some kid is having his fifth birthday. party, which at this point is probably. one quarter of his life, >> right? He's about to go to work in the. factories. Like, >> yeah. Be at war in two years. >> Two years. He's going to be fighting. Yeah. He's getting ready to go to work. So, this is like almost working age. You. go to his birthday and the next weekend. you could conceivably go to a funeral of. another of another child or adult. >> Every I guarantee that like every Sunday. you're going to a funeral back then. Like you like you a Sunday you're not.

going to a funeral is a good Sunday, right? >> Just go to any like any old graveyard. Look at all those little graves. Dude, kids were dying left and right. It was a. miracle for a kid to survive. >> Sometimes it'll be like Rick and it was. like he's 11 years or something. >> Oh yeah. yellow fever. You know, where. where I come from in Georgia, uh the. cemetery where my my family's buried, it's just like filled with these old. graves and it's all yellow fever. It's.

all just weird old diseases just. >> and some yellow fever. Some people think. it's cuz you people hate Asians so much. that they die that their heart snaps. That's not it. >> Right. Yeah. >> We're talking about the original one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Actually, Yellow Fever is my. favorite K-pop band. Like, they're. [laughter] I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I do. have. >> I'm sorry. It's hilarious, dude. >> Um, >> they know what's going on, dude. >> Dude, you have you ever heard of Peter. Diamandez? >> No, I haven't. >> So, he's like, it's interesting because.

there's like a group of people who are. who who look at the world right now. >> from a historic perspective, >> okay? >> And they're like, "Shit is really good. right now, and it's going to get. better.". >> That's what Rogan always says. the. shit's the best it's ever been. >> Well, and and and people hear that if. you don't if you don't know this sort of. thing, and some people don't if you. don't realize that like. [sighs and gasps]. if you have electricity, you're doing. pretty good. Like if. >> you're a w you're a modern day wizard. >> Wizard. Yeah. Exactly. Like you could.

just flip a switch and lights come on. and you could take a [ __ ] and flush it. and it goes bye-bye. >> and it goes to a poor neighborhood. [laughter]. >> Well, that used to go out the window. You'd [ __ ] you know you you'd [ __ ] in. a chamber pot, throw it out the window. where it would land in in in puddles of. like blood from people with consumption. horseshit and just. >> or just some kids playing. And I bet it. was honestly probably like good luck. It's almost like, you know, when like a. butterfly lands on your shoulder or.

something now, it's like good luck. Um, or if you see a clock, it says 11:11. But like if you were taking a walk and. you and you just got hit by a bit of the. king [ __ ] you know, >> SURROUNDED BY [ __ ] TODAY, THINGS ARE. LOOKING UP. >> YEAH. OH, a bit of a king [ __ ] on me. >> Yeah, man. And. >> Oh, thick [ __ ] FROM THE KING. >> AH, NOTHING BETTER THAN A KING'S thick. [ __ ]. >> Cuz no one else had thick [ __ ] back. then. >> Only the Kings. >> Who else would have a thick [ __ ]. >> Everyone's [ __ ] was watery. Watery [ __ ]. A king [ __ ] It was Memphis coffee,

dude. >> Yeah, Memphis coffee. >> But the king [ __ ] he was [ __ ]. serving plaster of Paris, brother. >> Powerful, charismatic, probably smelled. good, >> aluvial. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was, you know, royal. [ __ ]. >> Medieval kings ate a diet that was far. more varied and depending on period and. region, often less dominated by meat. than the roasted turkey leg stereotypes. Uh, roasted meat. Yeah, that seems like. normal stuff. But um but yeah, dude, if.

you God and I bet some people and I bet. there were some people almost like. they're down on their luck and they. would just hang out outside of like a to. like a cuz the king's toilets were up. like in the air. They were built like. you know on the second floor, third. floor of the castle. >> and just a hole would come out of the. wall. >> that Well, back then you would the Now I. happen to be an expert on um sewage. systems in castles. >> Oh, good. No, I want to know. studied it. all through school. The you'll see here.

that now that's nice, but some castles. you would [ __ ] down into a pit. >> Mhm. >> And then the way that you would get lice. off your clothes cuz everyone was. covered in lice back then is you would. put your clothes out over an open. toilet, a medieval toilet, and all the. ammonia from the [ __ ] would kill the. lice. So you were wearing clothes that. had been lice free, right?

>> But you know, like. >> [ __ ] scented. >> Smelled like a portaotti. Smelled like a. Coachella portaotty. And that was a. clean shirt back then. >> Yeah. Medieval toilets commonly known as. garter robes were built over waist. shafts or pits that discharge directly. into moes. Uh they featured a surprising. dual purpose nobles used the ammonia. heavy air from the toilet pits to store. and delouse clothing. God as the fumes. were believed to kill clothes lice and. fleas. Dude, that's unbelievable. Like, God, you smell like [ __ ] but God, >> no lice. >> No lice. Come on over.

>> No lice. You get to pick. >> Yeah. Come on over and touch this puss. >> Come on over. >> Touch his wiener if you were dead. >> Just delouse my underwear. >> Yeah. [sighs]. >> Oh, liceree [ __ ] back then. >> God, >> can you imagine going finally you don't. have lice crawling all over your face. >> or your vagina or your or your the end. of your wiener if you're a man? dude, the end the very end of your. wiener almost looks like a little bit of. like a vagina. You notice that? >> Are you kidding? It's all I think about.

>> Yeah, [laughter]. >> it does though. >> Oh, it does. >> Mine is special. >> Well, yeah. >> It's amazing. You could ex you can Oh, it's another pocket. >> Well, when I was a child, they had I had. a I was born with a very small wiener. hole, so I could pee like 15 feet. >> Did it expand? I had to go get a. surgery. >> You really did? >> Yeah. >> So, you're It was fused a little bit. >> Yeah, it was a little fused, dude. And I. mean, I could piss, dude. I could wash a.

cat's eye from 15 ft away. [laughter]. >> So, good. Did you ever wash a cat's eye? >> I mean, I could have, >> dude. You could have. That's must have. been painful, though. >> Oh, I'd surprise a [ __ ] And it's. Nobody knew it was urine cuz it just. came at such a a rip. >> A [ __ ] rip of [ __ ] yellow piss. >> Oh, it was like uh. >> probably loud. Oh, and it had a Roger. Clemens sort of. It was a. >> That's painful. It's like pissing on. ecstasy. >> It hurt. Oh. Oh, it started to burn me. At a certain age, I didn't mind it. But.

once you're getting to that age where. you want to piss fast, dude. >> Yes. >> Cuz we had a time in our town, everybody. was pissing real fast. >> And I remember like it's just when kids. are like, "How [ __ ] fast can you. piss, you little faggot?" or whatever, you know, and you're like, "I'll piss. fast. >> You got to piss fast.". >> And you're straining, but it hurts. >> It [ __ ] hurts. But that's when I was. Dude. Oh, I was wa Yeah. I would wash a. a bottle of whiskey that was sitting on. a power washer. >> Yeah, it was. >> You could clean off graffiti with your. piss. >> Yeah, dude. I could definitely I could.

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about? I think. >> Oh, it's just how it's been bad. >> It's been bad for a long time. >> And in some ways, this may be the best. that it's ever been. I do want to talk. though that you guys do have um Mystery. Boys podcast because do you feel like. Cuz you and I have both had a series of. podcasts over the years. Do you still. have your own podcast? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. This is the newest This is my. newest podcast with the brilliant Kurt. Mezer, the Mystery Boys. >> He's on my prayer list. I know that. He's awesome and he's just man his brain. just absorbs esoteric information. He.

remembers like names of ancient. grimmooars that are hard to pronounce. His knowledge of occult history is. amazing. It's like he's just a brilliant. dude. >> Oh dude, his knowledge of Charizards. from another realm [laughter]. >> is something we can't fathom. >> I also one thing I love about Kurt is I. love his voice. He has a great. [clears throat] voice. >> Oh yeah. >> It's fun to listen to. It's this kind of. futuristic but but ancient sort of.

hodgepodge of soundery, you know. >> Oh, and he's like connected to some of. the most interesting people. The guests. he's been getting. We've had somebody. who was on who who claims to be in a. secret space program. I think that's. this week's episode. No, it's last. It's. a two-parter. But this dude claims that. in the military he was essentially. inducted into this top secret program.

where I mean most people don't know this. but the United States has been engaged. in a kind of galactic war. We're being. run by reptilians, gray aliens or. essentially like IT workers. People. don't realize that this one of the. stories he told and what's so. interesting about his stories are the. details. >> They take him into this office. They're. about to introduce him to this program. He's passed an IQ test. Apparently, you. have to have a very high IQ to get into.

this program. >> very high. And it's not a normal like. written IQ test. They have some. futuristic thing that just can tell if. you're a dumbass or not. And he passes. this. They bring him into a office. A. gray alien waddles out. >> No. From what? Behind a curtain or a. door? >> A door. Like a little I guess a cat door. or something. Like it just comes. >> alien uses a door. That's the part I. don't get. >> I wish I'd asked cuz he would have an. answer. He would have a great answer for. that. I in my view it's like a cat door.

Like maybe a midsize cat door. Okay. He. comes waddling out long fingers and he. starts working on a Dell computer. He. just they use him as it. They He just. starts unscrewing a Dell computer. I. guess they put more memory in it or. something. >> And they were looking to see how he. would react to the fact that a gray. alien was working on a [ __ ] computer. And it's the story is amazing. He gets. [snorts] in trouble. >> Bring it up. Can we show the episode.

just what it is? >> Yeah. He uh he he got in trouble. So he. got in trouble because the first time he. met a reptilian, he poked the reptilian. in the eye. >> And reptilians see humans is essentially. just like below snails. Like we are look. very we're just hideous foul animals. And to poke one of these things in the. eye means you are going to be tortured. When you poke it in the eye, did he say. if it feels like an like as if you poked. one of us in the eye or is it almost. just like putting your finger into like.

a gelatin or like a water like a pool of. water? >> You're going to have to come, dude. We're going to have to have you on the. show cuz that is the level of. interviewing skills I don't have. Why. didn't I ask? What does a reptilian's. eyeball feel like? I didn't ask. It's a. I missed it. >> They obviously have cuz their eyes are. just these [ __ ] bird baths into. another realm. >> Oh, dude. They're evil. They're [ __ ]. up. The reptilians are really [ __ ] up. They tort they took him. >> We have Did he Now did he get tortured, >> dude? >> Okay, hold on,

>> dude. >> I I do want to hear, but I also have to. laugh because it always makes me laugh, dude. Because here's the crazy thing, and I'm going to be right back to it. We're going right back, >> please. >> Rep aliens, they're [ __ ] bullies. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm so glad you're. saying it out loud. >> Nobody ever says it, dude. All they do, they take somebody away. They like kind. of put their knuckle in their butt or. something or they'll [ __ ] like, you. know, [ __ ] them in the mouth or they. just they're dirty. >> Dude, I wouldn't be surprised if you. were in the secret space program based.

on what you're saying. It's almost a. direct account of how they torture you. >> What did he say? He knows what happened. Let me try to kill this fly dude. Actually, maybe. Let's Let's let science. have its way. >> Let's see who it goes for. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Let's see who it ends up Let's see who. it drains. >> at the end. It's going to drain one of. us. This is a new game show with the end. the fly. There's a fly that's flying. around. Whoever it doesn't like or. whatever or whoever it does like really. is the one whose blood it takes. >> Yeah. Let's see. I think there's two. That's a problem. >> Oh yeah, they're probably a couple of.

guys. It's probably Tad Lincoln and his. buddy. >> Come on, take the blood. Yeah, they in. they use your. >> Yeah. Did Yeah. Sorry. Did they say So. did they say what happened? Did he say. what happened? How did the Oh, >> the torture go. They first of all they. didn't torture him on Earth. As it turns. out on the moon there are these like. government facilities where they are. mining helium. >> Oh we so they did it at their place or. whatever. >> they took No the the US military cuz the. US military is in control of the. reptilians. They transported him to a.

moon prison where. >> this guy you interviewed. >> Yeah. He was on a prison on the moon. >> And how did he get to the how how did he. get to the interview to send an Uber or. whatever? >> What? I don't know how they get them to. the moon. It's. >> No. How do you get to the your. interview? >> Call in. >> Oh [laughter] god. Yeah. >> He called in from Florida. [laughter]. >> He called in from Florida, dude. >> Which is basically our version of like.

that's our [laughter] version of like. alienism these days. It's a call in from. Florida. >> He called in from Florida. He's a He's a. very sweet guy, by the way. Really good. storyteller. And here's where it gets. really weird. So, you know, they're. torturing you up there on the moon. And. but also, as it turns out, >> was he Mexican guy? Sorry to interrupt. you. Was he Mexican guy? >> I don't know his ethnicity. It was a It. was a call-in, so I didn't get to see. him. Why do you ask?

>> Just because all Mexican dudes want to. go to want to go to space, you know? They don't act like it. None of them act. like it. But I got like a couple of. close uh Mexican and friends. They all. want to go to space. >> Well, don't you want to go to space? >> Yeah, kind of. Not that much anymore. Like I don't know. Like I I if I want to. like if I'm going I'm going to leave. I'm not going to go out there and come. back. I'm not going to be some little. [ __ ] that like I'll be back. >> You're not going to Bezos. You're not. going to go up in a little [ __ ] dick. rocket and float around up there. I. don't even think Bezos went up there, did he? I think did he go up there? >> He just sent up like five or six people.

that I think that I heard that he wants. to smash or whatever and then brought. him back down. And it was like one it's. like some one of his little flying smash. buckets. >> Yeah, he's been he he flew on a. suborbital suborbital. I don't know if that counts, man. >> [ __ ] no. >> Aboard the New Shepard rocket. I want to. go out of orbit. I want to go to like. somewhere in between Earth and the moon. >> Dude, you can hit suborbital just taking. a direct flight up to Calgary, dude. >> Oh, wait. He did do a 10-minute flight. cross the car the Carmon line, the. recognized boundary of space, and reach.

an apogee. But, you know, Bezos sending. a bunch of hotties up in his rocket is. the modern-day equivalent of like. driving ladies around in your Corvette. It's like what oligarchs do to get laid. It's just like, I'm going to send you up. to space. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, I you know, >> that's true. So, the guy who's been to. space and was molested in a moon prison. gets Ubered over to you. Oh, he's a call. in. >> He was molested in a moon. You're right. This is But how? See, >> and I'm sorry it's not funny. >> Let me know. First of all, whether or. not it's funny or not, I need to point. out something. The I did not say he got.

molested in the moon prison. You knew. it. Why? Why do you know that? Were you. in the gate program? >> Yes, >> dude. Guys, oh my god. You were in. Gifted and Talented. >> Yes, I was. >> You know what that was? >> Yeah. It was easy to get into in our. town. >> Okay. But do you know what it was? >> Yes. Oh, I I've heard there's that. there's possibilities that they were uh. it was like a CIA, like a scop. not a.

possibility. Like that is you can look. that up. That like. >> No way. Are you serious, >> dude? You can look it up. It was so like. the the idea was it it kind of makes. sense like if you're running a country. who are the smart kids, right? You want. to find out like this the super smart. kids? You create a program. Yeah. that. separates those kids from the rabble. And then via that in that program, you. can start assessing them to see whether. or not they'd be good to work in. intelligence, CIA, covert programs, or.

just like any like federal job. And then. you start grooming those kids. You start. and and where it gets like into the deep. conspiracy stuff is you they were. looking for kids who had like, you know, telepathic ability. >> Oh, I thought nice legs or something. You're going to say it wasn't like that, too. It wasn't like that. It wasn't like. a pedophilic thing. So, so go ahead. They were looking for kids that had. what? >> Yeah. The secret look uh because Gayway. uh public school operated by local.

school districts, blah blah blah, to. provide military intelligence. The. secret military unit focused on psychic. espionage and remote viewing. Al often. called the Stargate Project. Was that. >> What's that? That's not our thing. >> Yeah, it is. >> We were in military intelligence, dude. We weren't doing [ __ ] We read My Side. of the Mountain. >> Well, right. That's That's what you. remember. But do you remember the Did. you get the weird headphone test? >> Yeah. >> What the [ __ ] was that? >> Do you remember the weird [ __ ] they made. you drink? >> It kind of is true, dude. They had this. [ __ ] headphone test we take like once. every quarter. Yeah. What the [ __ ] was.

that? >> What was that? What does that have to do. with being gifted and talented? Testing. your hearing? What is that? Why' they. put that on us? Why' they make us drink. that weird pink [ __ ] What were they. doing to us? Why do most people don't. remember it as well as you do? most. people it's a foggy weird memory. The. whole thing was some kind of bizarre. federal program. >> You think that that's true? >> Look, I look there's a now I mean this. is one of the many like conspiracy. theories that is not so much a.

conspiracy theory anymore that you could. look it up. You could see some of it is. obviously speculation, some of it's. real. So, we don't know. But. >> yeah, what were they doing? >> They wanted to find kids who would be. great assassins. >> [ __ ] dude. We didn't none of our kids. made it then. >> I didn't make it. Did you make it. through? Did they kick you out of the. gate program? >> No, I stayed in and then. >> Wow. >> It got a little too homeworky for me at. one point. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. >> I wasn't a company man. That's what it. was. At a certain point, >> I think I wasn't a company man.

>> So funny. I've never thought about this. in years, dude. But yeah, we had to go. off in this special building and learn. out there or whatever. >> Yeah, they separate you. They separate. you. And it was very strange. I think I. made it like 2 weeks before they kicked. me out. But yeah, I just think they were. the test didn't work. He's a [ __ ]. idiot. Like I don't I don't think it had. anything to do with like compliance or. non-complian. >> You seem like they would have you would. have been their target. >> Well, I didn't make it. I didn't make it. in. I didn't get to be in the secret. space program. And maybe that's a good. thing. But yeah, according to this guy,

there's brothel on the moon. It'll. change the way you look at the moon. There's brothel. The miners on the moon. are geniuses. It's like, >> well, who brought the [ __ ] miners up. there? [ __ ] It's like a Is it Lutnik. and them or whatever, >> dude? I [clears throat] don't know. I. You know what? You don't want to get. lost in the weeds when a dude is telling. you about [ __ ] on the moon. You're. right. Cuz he was banging on the moon. >> You're lying, >> dude. They have said he was [ __ ] on. the moon. >> He was [ __ ] on the moon. Like, god, >> they have brothel. They for the like for.

in between getting tortured, you get to. go to the moon brothel. And. >> Okay, hold [laughter] on. It's the best. It's the best. >> What? [laughter] Hold on a second, dude. You got to just listen to the episode. Like, I'm not even doing it justice. because there's so much more detail. There's kind of a love story. He kind of. like fell in love with a nurse. Like, it. it's kind of romantic. And, you know, he. talks about all these densities like the. way they shift you to get to the moon is.

like like like the reptilians are on the. fourth density, we're on the third. density. Aliens function like at a. different vibrational frequency. They. have devices that shift your frequency. and can reverse age you. So. >> I could see that being possible some of. it. >> I you just who knows? >> Well, because you know what you start to. see that frequency stuff. You've seen. that frequency when people put the sand. on certain things and frequency. >> simatics. >> It's called simatics. >> Yes. >> Yes. Bring up some simatics if you can. just so we can see what we're talking. about. >> I love simatics. >> If you haven't seen this, it's basically.

they put sand and correct me if I'm. wrong, Duncan. put sand on a p on like a. flat plane and then they play music. through it and the sand forms certain. like kind of like snowflakes or text. like figures or textures or designs. >> That's right. Predictable uh geometries. from various frequencies. They it. produces these like interesting um. patterns that sometimes kind of look. like crop circles. And that's ketamine. on that plate. >> Is it really? It works way better with. K. I would always do this before I.

snorted ketamine and put it on a simatic. plate. Set it to Yep. 47. >> Dude, what if you crunched up a bunch of. Fritos on there? >> It would work. >> It'd probably be like you're fat. [laughter]. >> You'll die. Yo, >> turns into a scale. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It. >> But this is real stuff. So this is 42. >> Yeah. >> So these are the hertz. Different hertz. they put through. And if you've never. seen this, it's unbelievable that. So. this makes me think that we could just. like this some way that if you put a.

different frequency through us, you. could then transfer us from one place to. another because you could shape us in a. different way to be able to be. transported. >> Exactly. And you know what is like where. I think of this [ __ ] I just think of. like, oh, right. Like when people get. into conspiracy theories and stuff, inevitably there's like this hierarchy. where there's someone controlling. someone else who's controlling someone. else and it's like it's it's reptiles. all the way down. Like where does it. stop? Like who's like ultimately in. control? But I think of simatics where.

it's like well maybe maybe like the way. things keep repeating throughout history. in sort of the same way because there's. these various frequencies that exist on. planet earth. There's frequencies that. create power dynamics that create. authoritarianism, tyranny, fascism like cruelty, war. And. you can tune into that frequency. And. the more you tune into that frequency, the more you like your your your shape.

changes. >> Why would that not be? Dude, that's such. a that's simatics, a study of visible. sound and vibration, demonstrating how. acoustic frequencies organize physical. matter in a geometric pattern. But. because the human body is largely water, sound waves travel rapidly through us, making it possible to use frequency and. vibration for various wellness, therapeutic, and clinical applications. Dude, this is one of the most. unbelievable things that I've really I. think that I've thought about in a while. because if you see that do that to that. sand, right? >> Yeah. >> And if you know Yeah. What if you put a.

frequency on that's like I'm going to. feel this way or this is the frequency. that's tuned into this almost like a new. radio station for yourself. Like instead. of tuning into like no frequency where. I'm just at the whims of the [ __ ] at. the uh byproduct and like exhaust of. corporate the corporate universe we live. in. I'm just wandering through that. frequency all day. What if I spent time. tapping into a frequency. >> that actually brought me some peace or. frequency that brought like maybe exude.

like love or possibility or um hope or. power or protection. >> Yeah. That well I mean this is a choice. You know you're sitting on the toilet. taking a [ __ ] looking at whatever the. algorithm is feeding you. You'll notice. the algorith. >> and I'll throw the [ __ ] out the window. Hopefully it hits someone so it. >> I Well, you can aim, >> right? But also so it hits someone and. boost their spirits. >> I know, but what I'm saying is you don't. have to just randomly throw it. You can. aim. You can slingshot it. >> But go on. So you're sitting on the. toilet going. >> Well, but you're ever all of us are like.

staring into these hypno rectangles. The. algorithm, >> at least my algorithm, oh my god, it's. [ __ ] up. It's just showing me like. horrible things or people in the midst. of psychotic episodes or people in the. forest drinking their period blood or. you know just a it's [clears throat]. wild chaos and. >> it's witchcraft, new beverages. [laughter]. >> Yeah, but it's crazy, dude. You'll go. from like It is crazy, [laughter] dude. You're right. >> They're they're definitely scrambling. our brains and they're we're starting to. like with the things you see cuz you'll.

see like uh genocidal killings of. children, right? children looking kid. looking for his mother for 70 days. finally finds landmine in Palestine, you. know, like a landmine wearing his. mother's dress and they and they killed. the child or whatever. Horrible. You'll. see that, but then immediately it's like. 40% off these AS6, you know, and you're. like, >> that's right. That's right. >> But it starts to confuse your brain. because your brain, it takes the depth. of one that's so deep and one that means.

nothing really at all. >> And then it puts them kind of all in the. same plane. you're you better watch out. cuz you just articulated something that. I've learned from Mezer which is really. like it's it's for me like it's believe. it or not I'm kind of skeptical about. stuff but this one like it's hard for me. to dispute. So he he says that uh. assassinations. >> public assassinations. create trauma cultural trauma. Charlie. Kirk did you notice the Charlie Kirk.

assassination? Everyone saw it. Yes. before they shut it down. All of us had. to watch that [ __ ] happen, right? So, this produces trauma. The trauma. response opens you up to conditioning. It's the same [ __ ] kidnappers use. It's. the same [ __ ] people who torture you use. it. They freak you the [ __ ] out so that. you kind of disassociate. You don't want. to be there. You you you you go into a. kind of sad, foggy place. And then in. that place, they show you the AS6. commercial. In that place, they give you.

some propaganda. In that place, they. give you a solution so this will never. happen again. This is a known technique. for mind controlling people. So, anytime. there's assassinations, it's not just. like power dynamic shift, it's cultural. dynamic shift because they inject that. moment with however they want to shift. the the tide, right? So, so Instagram is. or any social media is kind of doing. this but like low level, right? So you. look you, you know, suddenly you're.

>> micro doing it. >> Yeah. Exactly. Opening like freaking you. out. And then what do you know? You're. And then where it gets really creepy is. the commercial you're getting. >> isn't just from the algorithm. It's cuz. your phone. >> heard you talking about wanting to like. what's the best fishing rod to catch. catfish? Yeah. >> And then so right after you watch a. furry eat a hot dog with a human turd in. it and YOU'RE LIKE, "WHAT WHAT'S. HAPPENED TO THE WORLD?" LIKE a an ad for. like fishing rods comes up. You're like,

"Oh, cool. I should get that fishing. rod.". >> And dude, speaking of hot dogs, dude, foot long hot dogs, that should count as. white people eating foot long hot dogs. should count as reparations, [laughter]. dude. I. >> Oh my god. Disaster. >> I'm just saying like. >> disaster. >> at a [laughter] baseball game or. whatever. Having to eat them in public, dude. It's so [ __ ] scary. >> It's crazy that that's accepted, that. that's not studied. >> Yeah. And that's the kind of thing that. they're getting us to do. It's like. these little they're and they're sitting. in a [ __ ] like globe like they're.

sitting in a snow globe on the moon at a. at a you know outside of a brothel on. the moon that they own you know probably. just like uh descaling their skin with. their like reptilian brush and then. they're watching us eat like just like. streaming like countless hours of us. eating foot long uh hot dogs, you know, and like and then they say then they hit. you with the reparations thing, you. know, like will you sign for. reparations, you know, it's a like. >> Yeah. Whatever it is, it's like, you.

know, it's but the reality of it is. you're, you know, a vampire only goes. where they're invited. That's a vampire. rule for some reason. Never understood. it, but a vampire only goes. So, if a. vampire comes to your door, they'll. always ask like, "Can I come in?". >> And if you say no, >> they won't come in. I don't get it, but. that's vampire mythology. So, your phone is the [ __ ] vampire, and. you're inviting it in every time you. stare at it. You're saying please. contaminate me with a a combination.

state propaganda, propaganda from other. countries, corporate propaganda, and. like just weird [ __ ] Like you're invi. we're all inviting this in you. All you. got to do is stop, which I can't. It's. hard. It's almost impossible. >> You can do I think there's ways to do. better. The ways that I found that help. me are one, some meditation helps. >> I do meditation every day now. It's not. a ton. 10 minutes, but it helps. Some. days I'll get in two sessions, but it's. not a ton, but it gives me a little bit.

more space sometimes. Like, I don't need. that. It' be times like, let me look at. my phone now. I don't need that. And. then the other thing I think is. different types of plant medicine can. help you can help give a little bit that. more you to connect you back to nature. Those are the two that I know. >> Well, but it's too much, man. >> I think 10 minutes of meditation a day. is actually pretty admirable, man. A lot. of people can't do that. That's You. shouldn't beat yourself up about that. I. mean, like, how long were you told to. meditate? >> I don't know. I just feel like the good. people do it for such a long time. >> 20 minutes, maybe?

>> Like, yeah, that like 20 minutes seems. good. Um, but they did have those monks. Who were those? Don't monks meditate? >> Yeah, man. >> Yeah. Well, dude, but then they found. those monks with meth or whatever. Can. you look that up? >> What? >> Those meth monks? >> Meth monks? Oh, yeah. They were they. smuggling dope? No. >> What was it? >> A third of monks at a temple in. Thailand. [laughter]. That's got to be hard to meditate. A. >> third of the Buddhist monks at a temple. in northern Thailand have tested. positive for meth. Six out of 18 monks. at what [music] problem in Pit Province.

were disroed after failing surprise drug. tests during a police raid on Monday. Officers also found meth pills, a. homemade gun and bullets. Monks were kicked out of the monk. hunters. God. >> a gun, dude. A gun is the total opposite. of being a monk. >> That is a crazy temple. And that is I. just do you think meth would help you. meditate? >> Meth would help you meditate. No. You. would be like dude you would be doing. all the prayers like as fast as you.

could. It would be like our father who. amen. >> I don't think those monks are doing the. Lord's prayer. >> But that's what they're I think they're. probably in a crazy contest online to do. the Lord's Prayer as fast as they can. That's 11 seconds. [laughter]. >> HELL YEAH, >> BRO. New record. [ __ ] yeah, dude. That's. what they're doing. That's how But dude, that's how distracted we've gotten.

Monks are doing math and and they're. having contests to read the Lord's. Prayer as fast as they can. >> Probably. I mean, >> and they had a gun. The guy had a gun. [laughter]. >> You're You're paranoid. You're [ __ ]. paranoid. You're on meth. It's the next. step. You get a gun, dude. Maybe you have a copy of the. Shantam under your pillow. Maybe that's. the most risque thing you're supposed to. have as a monk. >> Yeah, dude. That's wild. That's just It. just was I guess that's what's happening. right now, man. People are.

>> People are [ __ ] snorting meth and. temples. They disroed them. >> I know. >> Which is wild. >> But I bet you're hot. If you're all meth. out, I bet you want your robe off. >> You're not really a monk. >> Yeah, dude. My buddy was a monk for like. almost I think almost six months. >> What kind of monk? Um, I'm not sure. It was in Oregon. >> What color were his robes? >> I think his robes was just orange kind. of. >> Probably a Buddhist monk. >> Yeah. Yeah. Buddhist monk. And he said. that they would sit around and this is. kind of crazy, but he said sometimes. they would sit around and draw hair on.

each other cuz they all had their head. shaved and they would sit around for fun. and draw and draw hair on each other. And it was kind of like the like kind of. the low-key like, you know, or whatever. Like kind of a sweet thing that I heard, you know. >> It's weird. I don't know, man. I don't. want it. That creeps me out, >> bro. The other guys are doing. methamphetamine. [laughter]. >> I don't know what it's worse. >> They They were probably drawing hair on. each other, too.

>> There should be a contest to see how. fast can someone say the Lord's Prayer. Dude, >> you want to do a You want to do a race? >> You think you can do it? >> Do you know it? >> Yeah, I know it. >> Okay, then let's try. You go first. All. right, Zach, will you time us? >> So, are you going to tell me when to. start or should I just. >> Yeah. How does it work? >> Uh, I'm going to count you down. Ready? Three, two, one. >> Our father who art in heaven, hallowed. be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will. be done on earth as in heaven. Give us. this day our daily bread and forgive. those trespasses. For those who trespass.

against us, and lead us not into. temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and. the glory forever and ever. Amen. >> Oh, that was good. >> But I kind of slurred. >> 9.87. Under 10's great, dude. Especially this. time of year. All right. Um, [laughter]. >> you mean the summer heat? >> Let me think. Uh, all right. Do me. >> three, two, one. >> Our father name kingdom come on earth is. in heaven. Give us the day our daily. bread. GIVE US AND FOR A GOOD ANOTHER. CHANCE. GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE. You.

>> I missed some words. Give us. >> this day our daily bread. >> Give bread and forgive us our trespasses. for we. >> as we forgive those who trespass. All. right, let me try one more time. Three, two, one. Go. >> What did it start again? Sorry. >> Our father. >> Okay. Our father. It's called [laughter]. Okay. Cuz we only had a stepdad. Go on. >> Three, two, one. >> Our father who art in heaven, hallowed. be thy name. The kingdom come. Th will. be on earth is in. Give us the day our. daily bread. Forgive and forgive. Give. it forgive us this day our daily bread.

and forgive those who trespass against. us. No, >> that's the devil getting in you there. making you stutter. Oh, >> that's the mosquitoes. THAT'S THE TEXAS. DEVIL FLIES. GOT YOUR TONGUE. >> THAT'S A TONGUE BERCULOSIS. >> YES. We got THE CONSUMPTION, SPIRITUAL. CONSUMPTION. YOU GOT TO let the Holy. Spirit flow through you. The. >> pretty lady, won't you give her a sign? I GIVE ANYTHING. >> PRAISE GOD. [screaming]. >> GOD, you know that Mountain Dew, you know it, it makes me think about summertime.

That hot part of the calendar. You know. how it works. You know when the calendar. just gets hot? It gets so hot. Sometimes I I'll call. the government and I'll say turn can you. turn it down? We can't handle it. It. would get so hot. and then you'd have to open up the. windows and but then the hot would come. in, you know. And then you but they get. so hot inside you have to open up the. doors and and the hot would go out and.

in and out. It was just a lot of hot. Thankfully, I. had me some Mountain Dew. Just a refreshing. It was like the heavens cut the faucet. down. and I could just enjoy myself. Just just doing just doing myself with. that Mountain Dew. I liked it. If I had. me a can of two of Mountain Dew, I'd go. out I'd pet every dog in town. That's.

how I I just became like that neighborly. American, you know. That's how I became. I'd be shaking the hands of local. raccoons and politicians and. all of them. You know, I'd watch as I'd. watch the wind go by, maybe whistle at. it, let it know I had a way of making my. own little breeze right there. Something about that summertime and and. just having a little bit of Mountain Dew.

and you made you just want to get out. there and just kiss a bald eagle, you know, and sometimes you'd settle for. your grandmother or whatever, you know, little kiss on the cheek, whatever. You. know, pop didn't mind. What I'm saying. is this. Mountain Dew. It's just it's an. alternative to the heat, but it's also. part of. it's part of summer. But dude, you win first of all. Congratulations.

>> Thank you so much. >> 9.8 seconds. That was really good. >> Yeah, I actually I can't believe I you. know that's wild. Like. >> for our father in under 10 seconds, that's that's I think it's good. And I. would love to see other people if they. want to challenge Duncan on that. >> They will crush me. There's going to be. critiques, too. There's different ways. to say it depending on what denomination. you are. I think that was what I learned. as an Episcopalian, but I think there's. My wife's Catholic. I think they say. they parts of it are different, but I. don't know if that's going to add or. subtract seconds. >> Dude, my girl Catholic, but that. Baptist, you feel me? Let's [screaming].

go. YEAH, I I hear you. >> I'm just making up. I don't have a girl. But if I did, >> you don't have a girl? >> No, but she'd be cute if I did. >> Wow. It must be tough to find a. girlfriend for you, huh? Just a handsome. dude with a super successful podcast. >> One day I'm going to get one. I mean, it'll happen. comedian. >> I think you know what? There's like an. age where I think it gets a little bit. weird and then. >> What do you mean? >> Maybe I'm just You know what? I think. some of the stories I tell in my head I. got to change a little bit. >> Yes, dude. There's. >> And you know what's funny? I never said. that. I've never said that before.

>> You've never said that? Come on. There's. a book. >> Not really. No, but the the ones I'm. telling myself cuz I don't even realize. they're being told. They've just been. written on this wall like these old like. this is the way it is or whatever. It's. like dude, I'm going to find somebody. great. Of course, it takes time. everything in my life is taking time and. um I don't want to get somebody that's. just like um you know like I want to. have some fun but at the same time like. yeah I want I want somebody that's gonna. be a a as perfect a fit as I can get. >> Dude, if there's this book and it sounds.

like [ __ ] and I actually got the. book because I was watching that. documentary on Nexium. You know Nexium. cult Keith Reneer? You know about that? >> Yeah. We had a guy on here from Nexium, didn't we? Oh no. We had a guy who got. bit by a dog at a nexium event. >> What? >> I'm not even joking. Who was that guy? >> That sucks. >> He was fine. >> He was like at a cult event and a dog. bitten by a dog. But that's how he got. involved with the cult. >> Whoa. >> Oh, that was it. Oh, no. Michael Rosen's. mom. No, not him.

>> That's Yeah. >> Oh, he was talking about Alison Maxx. cult. Yeah. There was another guy who'd. been uh cured of Oh, he got cured by of. um. >> OCD. >> Yeah. Cured or not? Um. >> cured by Novex. Yeah. Cured by Novex. Mark Elliott. >> Yeah, >> bro. Look at me right there. As young as. AI. >> You look younger now. >> Well, I'm older now, but also not if I. if I'm definitely older if I keep. telling myself that. I'm a [ __ ] boss. I'm a [ __ ] nineyear-old. You little.

Mark Elliot. I'm for motivational. speaker and loyal follower of Keith. Rener and his organization of XM, a. purported self-improvement company. I. believe he got bit by a dog. I could be. wrong, but I thought the dog something. happened. He got cured. He was diagnosed. with HSR's disease, >> a rare intestinal disease at birth. >> Um Elliot was returning home from a camp. via Greyhound bus when he repeatedly. shouted an antilack racial slur at black. passengers. That's called riding.

greyhound, first of all. Uh I think and. I think some of that comes with the. price of your ticket, I believe. Also, okay, I rode Ghound for a long time. Shout out Hound. Uh, oh, cuz he had. Tourette's though. That's why. Did he. ever cure it? Did they say. >> he he claims they cured it? >> He cured it. >> It's in the documentary. Like, it shows. people being like, um, >> it did not cure my Tourette's in any. way. >> Oh, then why did we have him on the. podcast? He said he did. >> In the documentary that I saw, it was.

Well, I mean, it was claiming that they. cured it, but. >> Oh, well, so maybe it says it didn't he. it didn't cure his Tourette's, but I. thought I can't remember exactly what. happened on the episode. But it was just. like it was like seven years ago. >> on the documentary I saw it was you know. some people it seemed like it was. helping but. I heard about this book on this. documentary. I was fascinated by this. Reneer guy cuz it's like you see him and. he doesn't really seem like somebody who. would successfully start a sex cult. bringing him up. You know what I mean?

No judgment or anything but it it. wouldn't be like the first person I. would guess. You look at like put put. pull up a picture of like young Charles. Manson, >> right? >> And Keith Reeri Manson you look at and. you're like, "Okay, there he is.". >> Right. >> This dude was getting ladies to brand. his name into their [ __ ] bodies. >> No way. >> Yes. Yes. Now, now you look at him and. you wouldn't guess that, but pull up. like a picture of Manson. >> That's a Montana [ __ ]. >> Young Manson. >> Ring Young Manson. >> I'm not that young, but you know that.

Manson. I could see you look at him, you're like, "Yeah, I could I could see. you starting some kind of sex cult. I. could see your members cutting swastikas. into their foreheads, but this dude. looks like like somebody your mom dates. before she marries your stepdad.". >> But this dude does look like he has a. dark side to him, dude. Now, this is. just all based off of one photo, but. that guy looks like Yeah. He dates your. mom. You think he's nice. He comes in. the house and says cool stuff, >> but he doesn't come through with kind of. his promises. And then you see him. yelling at your mom outside of the.

apartment window. >> Yeah, man. Yeah, that's that [ __ ]. >> That's That's what it is. >> Keith Rineer, could we get him on here? >> He's in jail. >> He is. >> Maybe you could call him from jail, >> dude. Jail. That's the most sex. trafficking you could ever do. It's. bumper to bumper in there, dude. >> I know. He And this guy, he like it it's. the documentary is incredible. And you. know, obviously like it's horrible. like. doing this shit's horrible, but when you. when you just watch it in terms of like. whoa, like the ambition like oh my god,

how did you pull that off? And so they. mentioned this book, Psycho Cybernetics, which sounds like horseshit. Yeah, >> the name sounds stupid, but I I got this. book and started listening to it and. it's this plastic surgeon wrote the book. and he noticed that you would give. plastic surgery to people and their. personalities would change, fix their. nose and they would ch turn into these. different people. And so his premise is. that there's sort of an internal visual.

image of yourself inside of you. And so, >> oh, >> so basically like if you look at what. you think about throughout the day and a. lot of people worry, ruminate, they are. constantly bringing up things they're. afraid of in the future or [ __ ] they. wish they didn't do in the past. Yeah. And this is what's creating the you. It's you you're habitually running. through a a rolodex of bad memories and.

internal fears and stuff. And so he's. saying that what's really cool about. that is it shows you how disciplined you. are. You think you have no control over. that, but you do. It's just habit. And. so what he says is all you there's a lot. of techniques in there, but one of them. is what happens if you in you start. habituating yourself to remembering. good moments in your life instead of bad. moments in your life. And it sounds so. obvious, but when you every time you.

find yourself getting freaked out over. that [ __ ] memory, the thing what. you're worried about the thing, you. replace it. And he and he says it. doesn't have to be a big thing like. winning a marathon. He's like he uses. the example of when you learn to tie. your shoes. >> Yeah. >> You know, some just enough. >> when somebody smiled at you. >> Yes. >> When you smiled at someone. >> Yeah. That that's enough. and you start. replacing this habitual. rumination with good memories, even if. they're from the distant past, it.

doesn't matter. All of a sudden, your. life starts changing because your. >> the your inner identity will begin to. conform to. >> it. It'll begin to lead your outer. identity. >> That's right. Yeah. You start making. different choices. All this stuff. changes in your life. So he his point is. you don't really need to get plastic. surgery. He was he was saying that some. people get a scar on their face. >> and it makes them more powerful. Like he.

was uh I think the the Nazis in the. fencing Nazis if you got a scar on your. face it means you were like a a great. fencer. >> Yeah. >> And and so but some people get a scar on. their face ruins their life, >> right? You know, so obviously what's. going on there is not the external. appearance. >> Wow. It's how your brain, it's how. you're wearing it. >> You got it. >> Dang. And I wonder if what if we all. just don't even I've long thought this. What if we all don't realize there's so. much more capability that we have that.

we just don't know? I believe that. that's such a truth. Like what if you. could think your way into looking. somehow different? Like that's almost. that's almost it's interesting for a. plastic surgeon to say that cuz it's. like. >> what if people could think or believe. themselves into actually that you're. that you would then visually somehow. look different like I know it probably. would be tough to really unstructure. your like it wouldn't skeletally that. would be probably impossible but on a. but on a different type of level or.

could your skeleton morph over time it's. interesting to think that wow if I had. enough of belief or if I if I pervey. this type of energy or I just envisioned. it enough that I would actually become. the thing that I envisioned. >> Well, pull up pull up like an early. picture of Marilyn Monroe before she got. famous. >> I go visit her grave sometimes. >> You really do. Is she in Nashville? >> She lives or she's she d she dies. I. guess she lives in a coffin around the.

corner from where I live. >> She lives in a coffin. >> in in Westwood. I mean, >> craziest way to say that she Yeah, she's. deceased. Sorry. >> She's living in a coffin now. >> Yeah, but she's Yeah. >> So, >> that's her. >> Yeah. So, that's Marilyn Monroe. >> Oh, bro. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Now, I will say this. She's an. attractive young lady. She's not the. Marilyn Monroe that we envision when. >> she's so beautiful. >> That's You sure that's her? >> Yeah. Like, find some other like early. pictures of Marilyn Monroe before she. was famous. I don't know how you find.

that cuz like a lot of these are like. modeling pictures but when when you look. at them it's like there you go and like. you know obviously you could say I'd. suck her feet still but you could say. that that this was you know lighting. makeup and stuff like that but there's a. story I heard I don't know if it's true. or not. >> Marilyn Row is at a diner she's uh with. one of her like I think childhood. friends and like you know no one even. knows it's Marilyn Row and Marilyn Rose. says to her friend, "Do you want to see.

what happens when I become her?" And her. friend's like, "Yeah." And so all of a. sudden, she does something and turns. like essentially shapeshifts. Like she. embodies Maril Monroe and everyone in. the cafe starts looking at her like, "Oh. my god, that's Marilyn Monroe." So this. is what this dude is talking about that. And you know, how many times have you. been with a person who maybe isn't like. classically beautiful, but their. personality is so amazing that you you.

start falling in love with you realize. the physical appearance, it's nothing. compared to this spirit inside of them. And the cover sadly happens where you're. around a beautiful person and you. realize, oh my god, >> this is a a monster. And it's so. fascinating. It's just the shell. It's. It's like a lampshade or something. It's. like what kind of light is shining. through? >> Dude, that's a great way to say that, man. It's like a lampshade. >> There it is. >> The Marilyn Monroe shape shifter story. refers to a famous anecdote where she.

could alter her appearance simply by. changing her posture and energy. When. walking down a busy street unnoticed as. Norma Jean, she would turn to a. companion asked, "Do you want to see. her?" And instantly transform into the. iconic Marilyn. People who were with. Maryland during these moments, such as. her friend Eli Wallock. or the actress Susan Strawber, noted. that she changed nothing about her. clothes or makeup. Instead, the. transformation was a masterclass in. embodiment. Wow. >> It's wild. That stuff is wild that you. could do that. >> But it is interesting. Yeah. How I feel,

what do I carry, what am I going to take. outside with me today, what am I going. to take inside with me today, you know? And I I I you know I applaud like. parents because I know their lives get. so busy and the time that they have to. even take for themselves and the time. that one of them's like, "Hey, will you. keep watch for a little bit while I just. go meditate for 10 minutes or brush my. teeth or pat myself on the back or cry. in the bathroom?". >> Yeah. Yeah. You know. >> Yeah. It gets wild. >> Like I think that's a real war. It's a. real tandem. It's a real If it's working.

well, I bet it's a real tandem thing. And sometimes it's painful and sometimes. it's beautiful and sometimes it's. probably a lot of things. But I applaud. that the amount of time parents has has. to be like, >> "Oh my god." Well, you know, but the. thing is um and you're right and you're. totally right. The. amount of free time I have now compared. to the free time I used to have. Like I. could spend days. alone in my house.

blasting Rails Academy completely alone. Happily alone playing video games alone. And I would get bummed out if I had. something to do like two days two days. away. [laughter] I'd be stressed out. Yeah. >> But but. >> bro, that's when you know you're going. to be doing some drugs. >> Oh yeah, man. and and and but now um I. have I have no very what what people. would call free time. Yeah. >> But what is free time? The real question.

is like the the example that that I've. been taught in Buddhism is we all have a. version. of a place where this is where I'm going. to feel all right. And for like a lot of. people, maybe not touring standup. comics, but for a lot of people that. could be a hotel room, a nice hotel. room. You can order room service, the. TV, the soft bed, no disturbances. Phone. is off. [sighs and gasps]. >> Now I will relax. So this creates a.

terrible tension between every other. moment. Like everyone has their place. What that the place where everything. this is where I'm going to be. For some. people it's just coming home after a. hard day's work, sit on the couch, whatever it is. For some people, everyone has their little oasis in their. mind. This is the place. But the idea is. this is an illusion. The oasis is an. illusion. You go into that place. The. place isn't giving you relaxation. The. place isn't giving you peace. You're. deciding this is where I will be at.

peace. Theoretically, you could do that. through the whole [ __ ] day. Your. whole day could theoretically become. that place that you're hoping to get to. when you have enough money, when you. finally get a vacation, when you finally. get some a a moment to yourself. And. this is what I have read as one of the. definitions of enlightenment. Enlightenment, this is a definition I. heard. Um because it's even defining it. is is difficult and who the [ __ ] knows.

But the idea is. >> what if every place you were at was free. time. Even though it was filled up with. all kinds of activity, even though there. were things you had to do, what if you. were maintaining this sense of like, yeah, this is where I belong. This is. good. This is the vacation. >> No. And this is in in in the third. patriarch of Zen. Um. wrote this great book. >> in Buddhism. You learned this. Uh yeah,

the first line and I wish I could the. name is like I think Japanese. Can you. look up the third patriarch of Zen and. yeah that's it. And and and he wrote the. great way is not difficult for those who. have no preferences. >> Your preferences are tormenting your. >> you want to be there. You don't want to. be here. You want to be somewhere else. And when you're a parent, your preferences will destroy you. Wow.

>> Cuz you obviously there's moments I just. want to play Diablo 4, dude. I just want. to sit on the [ __ ] couch and play. Diablo I. I just want to be alone. I. don't want to be around anybody for a. second. That's a preference. And the. more you cling to that, the more you'll. suffer. The part of the soul that burns. in hell. >> Yeah. >> is the part that clings to life. >> Wow. >> That might thart. But dude, for sure. >> Dude, I think about that stuff a lot, dude. with like uh sometimes with like. reliving old parts of my past or old.

stories or just like yeah old things. that happened. It's like how long do I. want to think I have to figure this out. before I just want to set up some. barricades for myself now that's like. hey we're not going to go try to figure. that out anymore. We're just going to. move on, right? and we're gonna move on. and we're going to put boundaries in. place so that when this thing or the or. certain types of people or this energy. comes around that this is how we're. going to behave towards it. Yeah. >> And we're not going to be like mean to. it or but this is how we're going to. operate now instead of like I get stuck.

in this place of like well I'll figure. this out or a little more therapy and. this and that. And the therapy and stuff. it's all good right? It's all helpful. It's all like puts a magnifying glass on. things that are cool. But um but to at. some point be like, you know, this path, it's a lot. I don't know. I've been on. this this path for a while. Let me try. to do something else. Let me try to move. forward. Let me try to not even let this. be a like. >> let let me really let this be part of.

the past. >> instead of going back to the past to. solve something. Like that's the thing. Sometimes I keep going back to the past. to solve the present. >> where it's like let me try and do this. maybe a little bit different. And um so. I've just been thinking about that. recently. Um thanks so much for some of. the chats, dude. I want to find out. what's what's a rabbit hole or like. something that you guys have learned um. on mystery on [clears throat] Mystery. Boys. Um but I just want to get this. update. The guest Mark Elliot clarifies. that he does not claim to have been. cured of Tourette's syndrome. Instead, he describes his experience as a journey.

where he found a way to master the. condition, noting that while the. symptoms have drastically reduced, he. still feels the urge occasionally and. works to change his relationship with. it. >> Interesting. Yeah, >> write it down. That's what I do, dude. Write it down. um with Mystery Boys, what is a rabbit. hole kind of that you or something new. that you guys have like latched on to. that's been like really interesting to. go down that you and Mezer have uh have. >> I got to give full credit to Mezer for. most of the rabbit holes. Like I'm.

telling you this guy, he like it's. >> Do you think he's good or evil when you. think about him? >> He's good. Okay. >> Very good. >> This a pop quiz, man. >> Do you Why do you think he's evil? >> No, I don't. I was asking you. He. actually texted me and told me to ask. you that. >> Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding. you at all. So, it's just a good. >> Oh, he's the sweetest. >> I know him. I'm I've I've already. decided how I feel about him. >> He's good. Really good. I wouldn't do a. [ __ ] podcast with an evil person. Why. would you do that to yourself? >> That's horrible,

>> dude. Do you ever think what if one day. you got home years from now and you. started to notice like something like. the ed like your skin around your chin. or something and you started peeling it. and then you took it off and what if we. were the aliens, dude? >> Oh my god. Oh my god. >> Like this whole time we've been trying. to hunt the aliens and then you peel. You're like, "What is that, >> dude?". >> You think it's acne and it's just. [ __ ] abracadabra. You're an alien. >> Oh my god. And then you peel the alien. mask off and you're human. >> Yeah. And you're a cool black guy.

>> So what the [ __ ] are you, man? >> Yeah. What are you. >> to turn it up, [laughter]. bro? [gasps]. >> Yeah. You know, >> spin that [ __ ] Uh, how about this, dude? >> I'll give you a quick one. >> Yeah, take me down. But I want to go. down a rabbit hole. And that was uh And. no, Kurt didn't ask that either. I. [laughter] was just joking around, dude. >> He's far from evil. But um Mezzer did uh. give me a little bit of trivia, which. I'd never heard before, which is the.

most batshit thing ever. So John Wayne. Gasey, the famous serial killer. >> from Illinois. Yeah. >> Horrible [ __ ] The clown. Yeah. Pedophile. >> Gayy pedophile [ __ ] clown. Just. horrible human being. He you. >> lazy too. Lazy. Killed people. Put him. under his house. >> Oh yeah. He said that if he was guilty. of anything, it was running a funeral. home without a license because he had. rotting child corpses under his [ __ ]. house. Also weirdly political. And um so.

John W Gayy was executed. on. a solar eclipse which is already weird. like what you know you know there's. going to be a eclipse that day right. >> why are you executing one of the most. notorious serial killers like on the day. that like in a horror movie that's how. you get a zombie a Freddy Krueger that's. how you get a a demon or something. execute the person it's a solar eclipse.

they come back to life or they haunt. your dream. So that's just weird by. itself. But coincidentally, Jeffrey. Dawnmer. was baptized and I'm not sure into what. denomination of Christianity. on the same day. Another [ __ ] serial. killer baptized. while during the execution of like So. >> So a spiritual realm is open. >> Yes. and a uh and a calendar, a.

seasonal, a what realm would that be? >> What do you mean? >> Like the the the. spiritual realm is open with the. baptism. Like there's a spiritual. >> right. >> like embodiment happening. >> and in in eclipses just so like in the. west we think they're cool. Everyone. goes out you get your eclipse glass. eclipse glasses. Everyone goes out to. look. They are [ __ ] cool. I've been. there. They're amazing. It's amazing to. to witness the temperature drops, shadows get weird. But like you know one.

of my friends who's like a shyite for. real who who like you know Hindu. follower of Shiva um you know he was. explaining to me like in India eclipses. are not something you want to go out. under like it's it's represents an. opening. >> where a lot of weird [ __ ] can come into. this realm. So, you know, his advice is. don't um don't go outside during an. eclipse. Like, it's you don't understand.

the energies that are out there. This is. a one of this is in their cosmology. So, it's a very powerful even if you're not. into the woo stuff. It's a very crazy. thing that happens and and it birds stop. singing, you know, they think it's. nighttime all of a sudden, like it's. just a very deep spiritual moment. So. why why do you execute this monster. during an eclipse? And why do you. baptize another monster during the.

eclipse? And why why on the same day? And how is that accidental? >> And and maybe that's simatics. I don't. know. Maybe that's just part of what of. like the weird secret gears in the. universe we don't know about. But to me, it's very fascinating when moments like. that emerge, >> right? when it's when when when the. curtains are open a little bit into the. ethereal into the next realm when. somebody spiritually you're kind of. you're when there's an anointment and a. and a an embodiment putting the you know.

blessing somebody with the the. embodiment of God like bringing God into. their into their heart you know like. >> right. >> that's that's risky behavior dude I I. yeah I wonder if um do you know if. it's kind Weird that we get people to go. outside and look up into the eclipse. then. Yeah. >> Was that always a practice? >> Or did people used to not stare into the. eclipse? >> Oh no, dude. People went blind for sure.

I There's a famous. >> people went blind just cuz they were. eight years old back in the day. >> Yeah. You would just go blind from. drinking water. >> I mean, dude, imagine how scary, dude. Everything was a game show like 200. years ago, dude. a cup of water. You. could get undehydrated or tuberculosis. >> What do you want? Explosive diarrhea. >> Yeah. >> You want to die of thirst or die of. dysentery? Pick. >> It's one or the other. One or the other. >> No. People have not always looked at. eclipses. Historically, witnessing an.

eclipse was often met with fear, awe, or. strict avoidance rather than direct. observation. Because ancient. civilizations lacked scientific. explanations, many cultures considered. the darkening of the sun to be a bad. omen or a disruption of the natural. order. >> That makes sense. >> for sure. Many cultures believed a. celestial creature was attempting to. devour the sun. The Norse blamed. skywolves. The Chinese told tales of a. celestial dragon and Aztecs believed a. jaguar was eating the sun. People would. often bang pots, scream, or shoot arrows. into the air to frighten the monster.

away. >> And it worked. >> Yeah. But it is when did we start in. when when did we start seeing eclipses. and going and watching? >> I mean forever. >> But did when did it become a practice? Like was there something that happened. like it was a big thing on television. like go see the eclipse or whatever? >> It was always significant. I mean it's. just like no matter what period in human. history like can you [ __ ] imagine. like not knowing what was going on? Why? >> But how much fun would we have had back. then? First of all, you get to make up.

what's going on, right? or you just get. to believe what's h like you get to. believe what's happening. But I just. think [clears throat] the the imag. imagine everybody's imagination back. then. >> in everybody's like storytelling like. you had to have a piece of information. to even you had to like. >> life was probably scary. You had to seem. viable. You had to fight for your. existence probably. >> Well, I mean this is what I think is. interesting. like you valued your life. more because you [ __ ] your sibling.

was dying at home. It was like let let. this day mean let this day mean. something to me. Let this information. that I'm reading through let it let the. fact that I can absorb information let. it mean something to me. >> Right. You you're saying that now maybe. we've lost that that people have become. sort of numb niilistic husks who don't. value their own existence like they did. when you watched your friend get eaten. by a wolf. >> Right. I think we're it's a tough I. think we we are deeper in it than we. know. I think we are up to our waist.

right now in it. >> In what? >> In um. in the suction of of of the devil. >> Oh, right. >> In the suction of something deviant. In. the suction of the dark arts. Man, I. believe that it is we think we just have. nice pants on, but we don't realize that. we've invited these skins of like, you. know, we've invited something. There's. something very demonic going on. Do you. think technology is inherently demonic? >> Oh my god. I mean you it Okay, so first.

like let's define demonic. >> Okay, >> so what is your definition of demonic? >> Uh with intent to harm. to. let me see demonic. I would say of. Satan's will. Yeah. >> With intent to. be a succubus to. the godliness that to the uh nature and. morality and godliness that may ex that.

that exists inside of us as a group and. as individuals. >> Okay. So, >> does that make sense or not? >> Did Did you have Bishop Robert Baron on. your show yet? Cool guy. You got to have. him on. >> BRB. >> Yes. >> Damn, dude. You guys crazy though. initials to have. >> Yeah, he's he's really cool. He was he. was a. >> Sign him up. All right, Zach. >> I I had him on my podcast and uh what's. really interesting is actually having on. my podcast got me more interested in.

Christianity than any other any other. time in my life. And the reason was not. necessarily what he told me though. I. you know, he's a really cool guy and. like obviously he's like brilliant. He's. a bishop and he's obviously a theologian. and. >> he's Orthodox, Greek Orthodox. >> He's Catholic. Okay. I don't. Yeah. So, but. what was really weird is, you know, I've. had so many guests of all kinds of I've. had Satanists on the podcast. I've had. witches on the podcast. I've had Hindus,

Buddhists, new age people, LSD chemists. I've had all kinds of, you know, generally. >> wiggas, god's dalmatations. >> Never and not yet, >> bro. That's a road to go down. That's. the eclipse, dude. That's the eclipse. [laughter]. NO, I I PROBABLY HAVE. I HAVE TO GO BACK. AND LOOK AT the catalog. >> That's what that's a human eclipse. >> But dude, I get I have one Catholic. bishop on and man, >> people got so mad at me. And it was.

really interesting cuz it's like, wait a. minute, what the [ __ ] Like you guys. didn't care when I had like people who. >> Were you trying to demonize the guy? Why' they get mad? Well, because like. the basically what started uh bubbling. up was that I I've moved to Texas. I'm. having a bunch of [ __ ] kids. I've. become some kind of fundamentalist. Christian. I all this like I love. religion and I I love Christianity. I. love like I I I'm fascinated by it and.

and and the New Testament is so. beautiful and so different from what. most people think it is. is like when. you sit down and actually read it. yourself, if you've have an idea of what. Christianity is, you'll realize what. whatever that was is not what this is, which is to me a really sort of. thrilling moment. And studying any. religion, like if you're if you're going. to critique. >> a religion or a philosophy, you really, I think, need to study it deeply. Amen. That's a good point. >> And then you can then go for it. Right. >> We got to start doing that more, I.

think, on here is learning about some of. the depths of different religions. because you see a lot of stuff online. that can lead you in certain ways. Um, >> but demons. >> Yeah, >> Satan. >> Satan and demons. I believe that Satan. is way more active than we think. I. think we got into this lush period of. like um of self believing that something. was taking care of us. Not that. something doesn't love us. I believe. that. But we believe that something was. taking care of us that we didn't have to. show up for our own like salvation. not.

just uh religiously but for our own. salvation as human beings as well for. our own day-to-day salvation. Do you. think that um do you think that we are. [sighs and gasps]. strong enough or care enough to save. ourselves? Well, I mean, I I I hear what you're saying. and that's a really good question. because I think you're pointing towards. a misconception or in in Buddhism, what.

would be considered a distortion when it. comes to what people think they are. So, in Buddhism, this shows up as something. called. interdependency or. dependent co-orination, which means that. we're all connected. that the clothes. that you're wearing, everything that you are, every. everything around you, everything is is. there because of uh causes and. conditions that created the situation. that we're in. So, in other words, when.

you ask, are we enough to to save. ourselves, it points to a distortion, which is we think we are an individual. self disconnected from the system, >> right? And of course we're not enough to. save ourselves. And and I don't just. mean in a spiritual sense. I mean. everything that we consider that that we. need for survival around us right now is. there because of the labor and work and. energy of people you're never going to.

meet. The food was hauled in on trucks. The plastic in the Fiji bottle. Your. clothes. Everything. Your books. the the. trees that grew to make the wood for. your son. All of these things are point. to a complete tapestry of existence, [clears throat] meaning there isn't such. a self anyway. But if you think that. you're a self, then you if you're. foolish enough to think you're all you. need, it's like look around you,

>> right? But no, but I mean I I agree. But. do you think we as a do you think we are. strong enough to show up and save. ourselves? >> You mean as a as a species? >> As a species? Because I feel like we're. kind of on the brink of this place where. something could happen or like we're. this like like they're like I don't. know. It seems like darkness is trying. to defeat us. >> Oh yeah. >> And and it feels like are we strong. enough to save ourselves? Cuz some days. it feels like maybe and some days it. feels like maybe not. real honest.

>> I don't think I think that I I think. that the. I think a lot of people's suffering. is related to self-cherishing. A lot of. people's suffering is is related to I. being misdirected. There is a. misdirective force in the universe. Now, Bishop Baron uh he was telling me well. what what is the definition of Satan? like what is it the actual definition of. the of Satan? What is it? What is it.

described as? And he said it is the. accuser, the scatterer, that which scatters. >> So, if we're going to come up with a a. definition of the demonic and and the. question is is like this technology. demonic. >> and let's just throw the word Satan out. for a second because that does create a. knee-jerk reaction in people. >> A lot of people do have like religious. trauma for real. And I know that word. gets thrown around a lot, but some. people are born into highly abusive.

households where religion is used as an. excuse to [ __ ] with the rational mind or. people. It's not when. >> Right. I'm being a little bit flippant. about it. >> No, I don't think you're being flippant. I think you're I'm just I'm. >> But you're just clarifying. >> I'm Yeah. And but but so for some people. it's useful to throw out words like that. and just you don't have to use that word. if you I think it's a useful word but um. >> I can mean the devil the dark energy. >> whatever you want to you know but Satan. does have like some specific definitions. the scatterer and the accuser.

>> that's exactly what's going on right. now. >> WHAT IS TECHNOLOGY DOING? >> It's accusing one group or another group. of being the source of all the suffering. in the world. the accuser. I've seen. you, Theo, accused of, you know, because. of the people you have in your podcast. It's all your [ __ ] fault, dude. LOOK. WHAT YOU'VE DONE. RIGHT. BUT IT'S NOT. just you. It's not just you. It's what. what what technology is doing, what the. algorithm seems to be doing.

>> is creating these very clear. distorted distinctions between groups of. people, >> right? which is anytime you have direct. one-on-one contact with most people. They're awesome. They might be annoying. They might disagree with you. >> Might be chatty or whatever. >> Chatty, but in general, they all. >> they're good. >> PEOPLE WANT TO HELP. >> YEAH. >> People actually really want to help. It's very sweet. >> But I agree. You get behind these phones. and it's like I mean there's so much.

racial like I have like black friends. that'll just be like they act like they. were slaves sometimes because of the. fodder they get fed. They'll get stuff. like remember when you were a slave and. it's like. >> and I'm like dude Ronnie what are you. talking about? I'm like your dad worked. at Chase Bank dude. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> When were you a [ __ ] slave dude? You. were the best player on our team dude. You got all the girls. You got all the. white girls too. >> Yeah. Well look at all the stories. Look. at all the stories. Remember when you. were a slave? Chew some of this slave. gum and it'll sell you slave. It'll be. like, "Oh, remember this Richmond,

Virginia gum." You know, now it's tastes. like the 1870s, you know? >> Dude, they're trying to replace you. If. you're white, they're trying to replace. You better watch out. YOU'RE GOING TO BE. REPLACED OR. >> BUT THERE'S SOME GROUPS that never get. pointed at. Well, the what I'm saying is. if you look at the the emergent. reli like you could call the the co. culture war stuff I think you could. actually identify this as a a kind of. religion or a lar even it's it's people.

are laring because the first thing. that's happening is you're being invited. to take a a side. You know, if you're uh. if you're a black person, okay, you you. need to be on the side of what like if. you want to get slave or whatever. If. you're gay now, you need to join the. LGBT. You you're part of this movement. If you're white, you're being replaced. If you're Jewish, they're going to the. concentration camps are about to start. up again. You can look and see that. every single person on the planet, if.

you want to attach to a terrifying, horrible story, you can find it. And the. moment you subscribe to it, you invite. it in, your algorithm will be flooded. with things to confirm your worst fears, giving you a sense that this is real. Crystallizing the distortion. This this. is all happening in 2D space on your. [ __ ] phone. Yeah, mostly. I'm not. saying that there isn't obviously real. evil happening in the world right now,

but this moment right now, wherever you. may be, this moment right now, it's. pretty good, >> right? >> This is the kingdom of God. This is what. I think Jesus was talking about. The. kingdom of God is here, right now. This. is why the symbol of blindness appears. again and again. Uh Saul of Tarsus. Saul. of Tarsus stoning [ __ ] Christians, which to this day is very popular. You. know, they're one of the most. persecuted. It's one of the most. persecuted religions to this day. And. people get mad at me for saying that,

but you can look it up, dude. >> Oh, who? Christianity. Yes. Oh, for sure. it is. There's some There's a lot of. videos recently that you'll see it's. still happening in a lot of places. Very. popular. >> Can you bring up the Saul of Tarsus. story, please? >> Yeah. Saul of Tarsus. It's a great. story. He became Paul. >> Saul of Tarsus. Thank you. Solitarsus. was a key observer and approving. bystander at the execution of Steven, the first Christian martyr, rather than. casting stones himself. Saul guarded the. heavy cloaks of the witnesses while they. carried out the stoning. Wow. >> And then who did he become?

>> Saul of Tarsus, the road to Damascus. He's walking, has a vision of Christ. Jesus says, "Saul, Saul, why do you. persecute me?" Is that had a conversion. experience? The story of Saul on the. road to Damascus is a pivotal event in. Christian history describing Saul of. Tarsus of Tarsus dramatic conversion in. the Apostle Paul traveling to Damascus. to arrest and persecute Christians. He. was blinded by a divine light and heard. the voice of Jesus. Wow. >> Yeah. Yeah. Now, now there's a lot of.

interpretations of this this event. Who. knows? But this idea of of blind of. blindness, Jesus curing the blind man, all this stuff, the blind the blindness. This to me is the situation. We're kind. of in a situation of of blindness. An. interesting kind of blindness because. the modern mind thinks that they're very. clear. They think that they're seeing. things very clearly. They know a. sophisticated person. It should be. worried about, you know, there's a list. of things you should be worried about. This means you're on the right side and.

you're sophisticated if you're worried. about the right things. Certain things, if you're worried about them, mean. you're a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] Racist, bigoted piece of [ __ ] You got to be. worried about the right things. But what. do they all have in common? Worry. You. need to be freaked out. You need to be. worried, scared. That bumper sticker. IF. YOU'RE NOT ANGRY, YOU'RE NOT LISTENING. NOW, >> that's one of the most satanic bumper. stickers I've ever seen in my [ __ ]. life. I think the devil himself printed. that [ __ ] out. It's It's basically like. I if you aren't angry, something's wrong.

with you. You need to be angry, scared, pissed off, judgmental. Don't talk to. those people. Don't look at those. people. Don't think those thoughts. Everything about you is [ __ ] wrong. Everything about them is wrong. You got. to be in a constant contorted state of. deep anxiety, fear, and worry or you are. not okay. You are not a good person. unless you're scared. >> And we should there should be a score. now that you get to see when you meet. someone. How much time have they spent.

on their phone? What what what apps have. they been on? What's you know what I'm. saying? like because it's kind of not. even fair that these algorithms there. recent there was just an the algorithm. act what was that they've been trying to. get it passed for years now but um and. they've had some cases recently where. Meta has been held liable there was a. girl that had a lot of suicidal thoughts. and um was I believe had an eating. disorder I could be wrong with that but. or was dealing with um. >> uh algorithm accountability act of 2025. focused on automated decision systems in. critical areas jobs credit housing.

health education and this is according. to perplexity. But yeah, it's like these algorithms. should be held accountable. We are. letting these that's where the devil. it's like we're letting these things. control cuz I'll watch stuff. I'll see. some clips and if you look at one then. something else comes up and now you're. down a rabbit hole. Then you see. somebody from that group, whatever that. is in real life and you could have an. energy towards them. >> That's right. I mean they got you. thinking about reparations. >> Yeah. >> You're thinking about reparations a lot.

Why? >> It keeps coming up on my screen. The. [ __ ] algorithm is showing you this. version of reality where there's people. all over the place trying to get. reparations, which there are probably. people. There are people doing that, but. probably not as many as you think there. are because your algorithm IS JUST LIKE, "LOOK, LOOK WHAT THEY'RE DOING.". [screaming]. >> SO THEN I SEE LIKE a homeless guy and. he's like, "Hey, can I get a buck?" I'm. like, "Oh, okay. >> Oh, reparations. You want reparations?". And that's just because of the you're. get you're. contaminating yourself. We all have it. I have it, too. Everyone has it. >> Everyone has it. But that's the thing.

Are we is there enough space to rise of. Is there enough space to rise above it? I I think here's the thing. We have to. believe that there is and envision a. possibility that where there is. otherwise there isn't. So that's one. thing. Um. >> definitely is. >> But dude, even just the fake AI stuff. just to make things a little softer to. soften up the conversation. >> Soften it up. >> Um. >> what's a fake AI story? Oh, did you see. what was the one? Brain. I think I put. it on the list of it's in my It's in my. um. >> No. >> Oh yeah, there was this girl Kale. Oh.

yeah, Kaylee, this was the lawsuit. She. had she uh she argued that features like. infinite scrolling, autoplay, algorithmic recommendations, and beauty. filters were engineered to make users. engage compulsively. Um, >> true. >> What breaks my heart sometimes though, or I don't know if it breaks my heart, but it kind of makes me I don't know, it. makes me mad that I got to sit with some. of these guys and they act like there's. no crime in their algorithms. They act. like there's no like. >> um. >> like evil goals behind it. And I think.

it's obvious. >> Yeah. >> that anybody can see where we're headed. isn't a great place. So do you think. some of these technocrats just don't. have a moral compass. >> because something must be wrong. >> Oh dude, I mean that's a whole that's a. deep [ __ ] rabbit hole. Like you're. cuz you're talking about like the. Galapago. Okay. Galapagos silence, right? weird creatures there because. they're separated from everything else, right? So, when we're talking about the. Silicon Valley tech overlords, we're.

talking about a a weird kind of. Galapagos Island where where you've got. this set group of people who've been. there for a while who have been. engineering the technology that is now. being used for mass surveillance, for. blowing up Palestinians, for [ __ ]. exploding parts of the world, and for. hypnotizing children into like being. glued to the [ __ ]. technology, right? And so you're looking.

at like essentially a warlock's guild. These are the wizards of the world. They. are summoning spirits via AI. A lot of. them were into the occult. You can look. that [ __ ] up. And regardless, I I think. there's public records of some of them. saying that they used BF Skinner, the. behaviorist's. um work, and he was the guy who could. make like pigeons tap dance and [ __ ]. They coded that into the algorithm, the. same stuff they use for slot machines. and stuff in Vegas. I've seen that. >> Right. So, these are wizards, illusionists. So, dude, it's like, do.

they know what they're doing? Yes. They. were they're they're making addictive. technologies. Can they say that's what. they were doing? Hell no. >> Do you think it's a unified goal or do. you think they all just happen to each. have these things going on and that's. where we are? >> Dude, I think that. >> and I'll come on I want to come on. y'all's show and we'll go down this. rabbit hole. >> I'd love to. I listen man. I think. >> we're going to get into some softer. stuff. >> This what I do know. Uh-huh. >> Before we get into the soft stuff, I do. know this. Zuckerberg apparently doesn't.

let his kids on the [ __ ] computer. Apparently, a lot of these tech people. keep their kids off social media. >> I think I asked him about that, didn't. I? >> What did he say? >> I think I said, "Do you do your kids use. social media?". >> Regardless, they have strict [ __ ]. guard rails for their kids using social. [ __ ] media. >> And that is is interesting to me. It's. like, if this shit's so okay, >> what's going on? Yeah, I think I let's. check and see. I'm going to I'll find. out in just a second. I think we asked. him about that. Um, but yeah, this was. this was one thing I was saying about.

this. Like I remember watching this, right? >> I think [laughter] so. >> This was last year a little bit. But. this is called Brainbridge, right? Play. this clip. >> Oh my god. >> This is going to blow your mind. A. startup company called Brainbridge. announced today that they believe that. they will be able to successfully. perform a head transplant surgery in the. next 8 years. The way that this would. work is you would take a person with a. perfectly healthy and active brain, but. their body has cancer or paralysis and.

transplant it to a brain deadad donor. body. What's crazy is that they said. that by doing this, the person that's. receiving the new body would still be. able to maintain their memories, cognitive abilities, and consciousness. They say that the brain could last. several hundred years if it had a good. working body, and that that might be a. potential in the future, but that this. would also give people with different. ailments a second chance. >> Wow. >> I mean, but this came out and I remember.

uh a guy sent it to me. I'm not going to. say who it was, but like kind of like a. certain type of person. >> Yeah. sent it to me. >> Yeah. >> From um Birmingham or whatever. And he's. like, "Man, this is scary." You know, and I'm like, >> "That ain't real. >> That's not real, man." You know what I'm. saying? But it's stuff like this that we. think like, you know, and then you. probably have like like spouses, like a. woman, she's like, "Oh, you six more, you know, six more birthday cakes." And. cuz it said like six years it'll be. happening, right? >> Yeah. >> Six more birthday cakes and my, you. know, I'm going to have Denzel.

Washington in my kitchen or whatever. or. I'm going to have, you know, the ba, you. know, my husband's going to look like. the baby [laughter]. or whatever. You're going to have like a. 75year-old guy with like a body that. like looks like a [ __ ] [ __ ] up. >> like a California raisin and the baby's. head. Like it's just going to So, but. that's that's AI stuff, you know? That's. the things that people believe, you. know? >> It's not real. I've been You know what. AI has been showing me? a lot of fake. honeybger content. Videos like nature. videos looks real like honey badgers.

like fighting elephants and horses. A. lot of AI videos of like um. >> God, what are those creatures that. defend themselves with [ __ ] This is. >> you sure is are you are you talking. about those David Atenburgh fight night. videos? >> Well, yeah, but people are now. generating very good AI video of like. honey badgers fighting [ __ ] and I was. watching them for a while before I. realized that's not real. Like I love. honey badgers. It's a different subject. altogether. But um a lot of these are. fake as [ __ ] or the hippos spinning.

their tails and [ __ ] off you know. they doing that blasting tigers away and. stuff. That's a lot of those are fake. >> Are they really? >> I mean it's insidious. It's at that. level too. It's not just head trans. >> like elephant shits on birthday party or. whatever and it's like. >> go on Instagram and look up like hippo. defending itself and I'm pretty sure a. lot of these are AI. I don't want it to. be AI. I want it to be real. But if you. look up any hippo, it's a whole genre. now of hippos [ __ ] on various. predators. >> Yeah, if you guys can bring some of. those up, we'll get right back to them. Um, dude, oh yeah, I saw this thing the.

other day. Hot air balloons are being. used for sex trafficking. And that was. an AI thing. >> That's so. >> And that was an AI thing. >> [ __ ] up. It's so now it's like you. take one of the most beautiful like. people are watching a hot air balloon. race and there's some grandmother being. like you know there's a niney old you. know. >> there's a kid bound and gagged in the. basket of that balloon getting shipped. off to some [ __ ] up island that's so. everything beautiful you know brothel on. the moon kids being transported in hot.

air balloons they're ruining everything. but then they'll start but then also. what'll happen then is this is then this. this piece starts to happen. They take a. fake story like that, right? Like the. kids being sex traffic, you know, like. in hot air balloons, which is crazy, dude. Like. >> like how many people can even fit in hot. air balloon? Probably six to eight. >> A lot of kids. >> That's true. Probably four to 10. >> I don't know, but I I think I can get 20. in there. >> I don't want to know. >> We could talk after the show. >> Yeah, we'll talk after the [laughter].

show. >> Say we're joking. But dude, >> we are joking. Jesus Christ, we're. joking. >> But then here's what happens is they put. the story out, right? Then they become. then there becomes this lobbying towards. the government like now somebody's. lobbying for we need to train officers. We need specifically trained officers. who know how to fly hot air balloons so. that they can be lookouts for this. thing. And it becomes one of those. Somali welfare things where it's just a. moneyaundering thing, but it's all based. off of well, let's put the story out. first, create the fear, create the.

worry, then let's find this other big. financial solution that we and do all. the training and all the [ __ ] so we. have a something to invoice the American. government or any government for. And. then the people our tax money just goes. to another thing. Now we have 700, you know, trained like hot air balloon. surveillance technology. >> I'm sorry. I don't think you realize. what you just did, but you have come up. with like an incredible series on like. NBC. Hot air balloon like cop.

chasing sex predators through the skies. >> Dude, that's an incredible show. >> Thank you. Like that would be really. like really fun to watch. >> Dude, imagine you're ducking down in. your basket. >> Yeah. >> You get a new partner, >> you do that heat thing, you turn it up, >> dude. I I would watch that all day long. That's an incredible idea. But yeah, you're right. It creates a chain. reaction and essentially it's just [ __ ].

tons of money gets wasted on something. fabricated by like a couple of like. teenagers in Morocco and you know or. wherever. I don't know why I said you. know but then they honor him at a. football game. It's like and there's. Harold Arthur III. >> He did 17 years in the hot air balloon. surveillance squad. Let's give him A. ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [screaming]. >> YEAH. >> YEAH, MAN. It's You're right. And dude, but they used to have I remember they. had this girl in our school and her dad. and his friend, I guess they were kind. of gay men or whatever.

>> And they would uh they were hot air. balloon guys, but they would go up and. kind of kiss or whatever. Like they. would lock like. >> whatever, meet up in the like not meet. up, I guess meet up in the sky or. whatever, you know, >> how. >> or just like lock their, you know, tie. their balloons off to each other. >> How does that that wouldn't the like. it's like wouldn't the balloons. themselves bump into each other? I think. there's ways you can do that. >> because that is like if you're gonna. like create sort of a spectrum of gay. >> was to hide. They were scared to get.

seen around town. >> You level up. >> like making out with another dude in a. separate hot air balloon is that's. >> that's gay. >> Brave gays though. >> It's brave power, >> dude. Brave gays. How is that in a show? >> That's the name of the show. That's it. They're gay hot air balloon. cops. This is the next Brokeback. Mountain. >> This [laughter] is, dude. Uh, do we have. a beat of it here? Did he say anything? >> I think that that's a big part of it. I.

try to like It's important to me that. that the kids get that too and and the. kids are very active. >> Um, >> do your kids have a lot of um like. screen time? Like how much screen time. do you allow your kids? >> Yeah. Um, it's different for the. different ones. We don't just like let. them do whatever, but I actually like. want them to be fluent with this stuff. and like kind of like we talked about. earlier. Um, you know, I want them to. learn how to code, how [clears throat]. to use technology. Um, I think it's.

important, >> but he's not saying he wants them to use. it. He's saying he wants them to know. how to code and use technology. >> I want them to be able to create the. mind traps that I've created. I want. them to be able to build manipulative, seductive technology so that they can. lure other children into my trap that. will inevitably control the entire. planet. But I would never show them the. the [ __ ] hypno rectangle. I mean, dude, >> it's giving that dude a lot. Is there. any more to it or that's it? >> It's a long answer to a simple question,

right? He could just be like, "Yeah, I. put them on it all the time.". >> There's a lot of socialization obviously. like happens online at this point. like. people need to get used to the norms and. stuff around that. So, I mean, they're. not on they're still too young to be. using like social media, but uh but they. have messenger kids, you know, we we um. make it so that they can video chat and. and chat with their friends and you. know, we'll we'll obviously monitor to. make sure that they're um that they're. just connecting with the people who who. we think that they should, but like I.

think it's actually good. I think people. need to kind of grow up. Um I don't need. to is strong, but I I I think is um I. think it's good if you have an engaged. parent and and they um and and as a. child you learn up you you you kind of. grow up um learning how to use a bunch. of this stuff. So I mean that's okay and. that's all good. I I want the kids um to. the extent that they're interested in it. to learn how to code, learn how to. create stuff, whether it's in like. Horizon or VR tools or they play, you.

know, Roblox and Minecraft. >> Roblox? Did he just say [ __ ] play Roblox? Look up ro look up Roblox. Like look up. Roblox pedophilia. >> Oh, is that where they're doing it now, >> dude? >> Dude, this is like the new rest areas. Remember rest areas? >> Look Roblox? Yes, Roblox is currently. the subject of heavy scrutiny, including. investigations of lawsuits from US state. attorneys, local governments, and. reports highlighting that predators. exploit its massive demographic of young. users for grooming and sexual.

exploitation. >> Yeah. >> Don't put your [ __ ] kids on Roblox or. like, man, I'm telling you, like, people. need to understand that. Dude, do you. remember like did you ever like dig. around for your dad's porn? >> I remember digging in a hole. Well, somebody said there was porn somewhere. like not far from us and we dug. Dude, we dug. >> As kids, we probably dug [ __ ] 11 ft. into the dirt. Dude, we didn't FIND. >> A PIRATE BURIED HIS porn out there. That's what Blackbeard [laughter] find.

>> Dude, you just remember the. >> We did find like a CPAT machine though. >> But go on, dude. >> My point is we all know that kids. when they know like just based on like. the experience of anybody grew up in the. 80s at least or the ' 90s. Yeah. You. would find your dad's porn. >> Yeah. >> He could put that [ __ ] like in a sewer. He could put that stuff. He could like. hide. >> He could keep it under his hat. >> You would get it. >> Yeah. >> So the like the idea that Zuckerberg's. throwing out there, which is like you.

can like monitor your kids. Number one, dude, are you [ __ ] kidding? A lot of. people don't have time to do that. They. and they don't understand this tech. could be really dangerous for children. Oh yeah. >> They don't have time to monitor. Number. two, the fact that he's recommending. Roblox, which as you just pulled up, is. currently being investigated right now. because [laughter]. is dude, >> that's crazy. >> He just told everyone watching your. show, he's like, "Put your kids on. Roblox.". >> Like, you know how [ __ ] up that is? I. don't think he I don't think he intended. to do that.

>> No. Well, it was a past episode. It was. probably one years ago, but still, I. think if I don't know, do they know that. pedophiles is going on on there? Like, they have to know what's going on, dude. And for years, there wasn't even a. blockage, I don't think, between adults. and kids messaging each other, which. would be the first [ __ ] thing. So, part of me starts to question, do some. of these tech lords, do they want. pedophilia to be a thing that exists in. our universe? >> I mean, let me answer that question. I. This is the deal. If you're making.

>> We need to ask a kid. >> If you're making a a tech a plat like. how much. is money worth? In other words, let's. just say you, Theo Von, invented an app. and you found out that somehow children. were being abused through your app. >> You know what you do? >> Shut it down. >> Shut it the [ __ ] down. >> and apologize. >> on that day. And in and in and. reparations. Give them your reparations. That's what you do. You don't keep.

something going that allows children to. be abused. you. The question is how much. how how much is your mansion worth to. you? >> Well, here's the thing. Here's the. thing, Duncan. I agree with you. But. here, people keep saying it's about. money. These people, it's not about. money anymore. It couldn't be about. money. If you have a lot of money, it's. not about money anymore. It becomes. about the next currency. So, other. currencies are power. And then some of.

the currencies. it's like you get to be the king and. then the king turns into a I think after. king is a devil. >> Yeah. I think a it's right on the other. side of being a king is being a devil. because there's a there there's you know. what I'm saying? Like it's like. everything's just a circle. So if you're. at the if you're a king Yeah. >> then right after it is devil. >> Yeah. I mean, you just have to deal with. the fact that the technology you create. is being used to distribute child. pornography and and is hurting children. and then whether you the rest of your.

life should be spent stopping that from. happening, not getting taken to court to. make that happen. You should just stop. it because. >> it makes me question these guys a lot, dude. >> Well, you you know, human sacrifice, especially the sacrifice of children, is. an age-old practice. And just because. like the energy is being extracted from. children using a a brand new technology. doesn't change the fact that the the. this technology is harming children. So. >> and we're not saying that Facebook is.

doing that, but we're he's just saying. that Roblox has accusations about that. and that it's obvious that uh. >> I mean you can look I mean I again I. don't. >> there have been probably instances of. adults commandeering children's sexually. on Facebook. Obviously, I can't say with. the authority of some of the people. doing the investigations whether or. what's happening, but I will say that if. you don't think that social media and. online games is being used by predators.

to [ __ ] with your kids, you are a. [ __ ] You're out of your mind. What. are you [ __ ] doing? And also, might I. just add, and I know we're supposed to. lighten things up, when you're posting. pictures of your [ __ ] kids. >> Yeah. in bathing suits. >> In bathing suits or no shirt. >> and you look and you can look at who's. favoring those pictures. If 60% of those. are like dudes in their 40s. >> Yeah. >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING? >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING? >> WELL, that's when you start to realize.

that we've like there's this vortex that. you start to get manipulated by. >> and that we're being manipulated. It's. like watching a belly dancer dance and. next thing you know, you've given her. all your money. And after you've given. all your money, you'll give her your. kids. You'll give her your organs. You'll give her your offspring. You'll. give her whatever it is, and you don't. even notice you're giving anymore. You're not even getting anything out of. it anymore. You were just tricked into. giving everything all away. >> That's right, dude. You said it. Praise. the Lord. Throw your [ __ ] phones in a. in a Oh, yeah. This is great. Let's.

watch this. This will lighten things up. It's hippo [ __ ] on animals. >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, we all we like if we didn't. >> It's No, I don't think that's. >> And now this. And look, dude. And. they'll probably they'll accuse the. animal of doing blackface or whatever. [laughter]. >> It's AI though, right? That's not real. >> I don't know. But this is the kind of. stuff that just breaks my heart. >> cuz he poses like he sits like he wanted. to get [ __ ] on. Like it's not real, right? Breaks your heart. >> It looks real. He's pissed, bro. [gasps and laughter] And that cheetah is. pregnant, bro. He's probably like, I. know where to get some lunch. And he's.

pulls out. >> It's got to be fake. And this is a whole. genre of hippo [ __ ] on on jaguars. and tigers. >> Bro, don't come on my back and tell me. it's raining, brother. Why did he sit. there? Like why? It's like he. >> Because it's the old hey, let's go get. some lunch. I'mma [ __ ] on [laughter] you. trick. Okay, that's the old thing, bro. >> That old class. >> Um, what else do we have? What other AI. things are out there? There's some other. AI things that were fake or were there. other AI things in the news. or what else can we talk about? Is there. something else on your mind you want to. talk about?

>> On my mind, right now? >> Um, yeah, man. >> Do you feel hope as a parent? That's a. question. Is it okay if I ask you that? Do you feel hope as a parent knowing. seeing a lot of these open vortexes of. the devil that are operating around us. and how we are being like summoned to. dance for them like the brooms in. Fantasia like but do you and and none of. this is accusatory like I have the same. stuff I'm like you know I try to battle. it and it's probably easier because I. have less responsibilities than you do. as a parent but it's like um we're all.

fighting this thing you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I I I. will never stop loving existence and I. have I know that people are good. In. Buddhism it's called fundamental. goodness. That underneath the the fear. is goodness. And when you're around a. baby, when you're around your kids, you. get to see that. You get to see a brand. new human before the the windshield gets. like covered in splattered fear bugs.

that begin to define their personality. And as a parent, you can't keep those. bugs from splattering on the windshield. That's going to that's going to happen. But you also can like maybe you can at. least help them understand that love is. is eternal. That that love is eternal. that we're we're embraced by the. universe, that benevolence, kindness, all the things that are taught in. Christianity and many of the world.

religions, these ways of being will are. not affected by technology, by AI, by. all of the things that inevitably are. coming down the line. This this way, the. actual term for Hinduism I've heard is. called sonatan dharm. It means the. eternal way or the eternal path. this. path. It doesn't [ __ ] matter if the. there's cyborgs walking down the path. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And I think that's the most important. thing to remember is that this what what.

we were today were calling the Satan. >> Satan is depends on us building up that. energy. >> in making it big scary. This is. described as like it's the monster under. the bed. It's darkness. Darkness is all. you have to do is flip on the light. >> Amen. >> Gone. Instantly gone. And and so the. more I think we focus on that darkness. and all of its complexity and all of its.

seeming sophistication and all of its. tricks and deviousness and deception, the more powerful it becomes. But the. moment you just turn into the present. moment, right, >> and and your own heart and the people. you love, it's like a light turns on. Well, I think we need astronauts too. sometimes to go into the darkness, man. We need astronauts to go in there and. find the switches too, you know. I think. sometimes we need that. I think. sometimes as like we it does feel. sometimes like we are too like there's. like in you know a lot of times in. Christianity they talk about acceptance.

a lot and acceptance and acceptance and. you know in a lot of religions they talk. about acceptance. >> surrender. >> Yes. And it's like you can do that in. some ways, but also part of you is like, but when do you like really stand, you. know what I'm saying? When do we stand. up? Cuz we're creatures with legs. >> Yeah. >> You know, when do we stand up and um. and not just accept everything? And. maybe that's the phase that we're in. now. And then part of me like I was.

talking to my friend Curtis the other. day and like we talk about religion a. lot and things like that and it's and um. and he was saying that it doesn't really. matter if you win here in the world, right? If the world wins, if we win as a. society here, it matters in the in the. afterlife in the next realm in like you. know what I'm saying? Like um this is. just a practice ground for your spirit. like to see how you operate a spirit. It's almost like like u when you did. like school driving or whatever, you. know, and there was some guy who was.

like obviously a pedophile usually who. would get to teach you how to drive cuz. they wouldn't let him coach him where. they took away his whistle. >> And so he's [ __ ] sitting [laughter]. there just squeezing your thigh. >> That's horrible. >> But dude, he's in there squeezing your. thigh. He's like, "If I squeeze your. left eye means turn left. If I squeeze. your right thigh, [screaming]. >> right?". >> AND I'M LIKE, "WHY? >> [ __ ] DUDE. >> Why are you touching me, dude?" So I was. just going like in circles, dude. This. [ __ ] was just massaging me or. whatever. just [ __ ] me up, man. >> But it's [laughter] just like, yeah, but. it's like is or do you think it m cuz. sometimes I care too much. I feel like.

if we win here as a people as opposed to. like if I if my like as a as opposed to. like be best curing the meat of my soul. for the next uh like refrigerator or. meal or. >> shuderie board of existence board of. existence. It's very poetic. I know what. you mean. I I just think, you know, the. the the. move is. you look at this thing and now you're.

worrying about literally all of. humanity. How do I fix all of humanity? It's a that's a very anxious, >> right? It's an anxious place. >> It's a instead of. >> it's not fair to your it's not fair to. us. >> You can't it's not your job. And and I I. think it that doesn't mean you should be. some kind of impotent uh pseudospiritual. person who isn't actively trying to make. the world better. But since you're the. first part of the world you encounter, how much time are you spending seeing if.

you can reduce your own fear and anxiety. and increase your ability to have. compassion and love for the people that. you encounter throughout the day? And. you know if enough of us do that and. that is not easy by the way and it. >> but it's incremental. You don't have to. do it all in one day but you can do. small things. >> and you never know. I I mean it's I. think if we're going to use the Bible as. a reference for the conversation didn't. doesn't the story go when Jesus sent out.

the disciples. He said don't worry about. what you're going to say. I will speak. through you. And if your message is not. accepted, leave and knock the dust from. your feet, which is really just saying. stay in the present moment. Trust. Trust. Don't let this darkness trick you. into getting all freaked out and angry. because when you're angry, you'll say. angry words, >> but you [clears throat] know the this is. a terrible way to ruin whatever the [ __ ]. I'm saying.

>> Have you ever gotten in an argu argument. on MDMA? Have you ever said a single. shitty thing to someone when you're on. ecstasy? Now, this is I think a way. there's might be a way. I'm not saying. be on ecstasy all the time, but imagine. if somehow you could cultivate that part. of yourself that shows up on a nice. >> DMDMA tab. If you could cultivate that. in Buddhism, that's called bodhicitta. and it's the awakened heart. If you. could cultivate that, then whatever came.

out of your mouth, whatever you did. theoretically would be much better than. what you do when you're angry, freaked. out, scared, and pissed off. So maybe. the first step is to take more ecstasy, which brings me to a plug for my new. business, Trussell MDMA. Go to Trussell. [laughter] I'm just kidding. I'm just. kidding. >> Trussel MDMMA church wafers, too. That. would be the best, dude. No, I just feel. like, you know, the the idea is like as. much as you can.

cultivate compassion in your own heart. And. >> the best thing I noticed, too, I just go. on a walk with a friend. When Saul was. walking, dude, when Saul was walking, was he walking alone out there? >> That's a great question. I don't know. >> Can you look that up? When Saul was on. the road to where is it? Damascus. >> Damascus. >> I'm guessing alone. >> NO, SAUL. >> WHOA. LET GO. THIS IS AWESOME. NO, Saul. was not alone when he was traveling to. Damascus. According to the biblical. account in Acts 9, >> uh he was accompanied by a group of.

traveling companions who are rendered. speechless by the heavenly light and. sound. >> We all saw it. >> Um. >> Wow. >> So, yeah. I think I don't know. I just. there's nothing I enjoy more these days, bro, than honestly is going on a walk. with a friend or something like that. You know what I'm saying? >> Theo, you seem great. >> I do. >> You do. >> Thanks, man. >> Yeah. You your energy is really like you. got like you've got what's the word? What do they call it now? your aura. I don't know what the My kid. the other day, it's so funny when they. start saying like kid insults and it's a.

brutal insult. He was talking about. somebody's like their aura is chopped. >> Damn. >> Have you heard that? >> Yeah, someone said that. >> Chopped aura. Your aura is not chopped. right now, man. >> Someone called me chopped on one time. Someone drove by and called me one month. ago. >> What? >> For no reason, dude. Huh? >> Where? >> Cuz I had two bags of [ __ ] shopping. clothes. >> Are you kidding me? >> Yeah, I know. I bought a lot. But still, I Yeah. Yeah, dude. It was just cuz I. think. >> That's crazy. I think cuz I was like. tying my shoe but I bent over like at. the hip like at the hip instead of like. kind of squatted down.

>> That's [ __ ] up. That's crazy, dude. >> I know. That's crazy, dude. >> That's crazy. >> cuz I like bent like like fully just cuz. like Yeah, I get it. But it's like God. just say it roll the window up and just. say it to yourself or whatever. >> That's a rare experience for Right. Like. I mean when how often does that happen. to you? >> Uh I don't know, dude. [laughter] But I. put I put I put stuff out in the world. that didn't needed to be out there, dude. Dude, when we were kids, we would. write this is horrible to say and this. crazy crazy way to end this. conversation. Thank you for the. compliments, dude. I am in a space where.

I'm trying to ask myself a few more. questions instead of just take how I. feel. I'm like, what's this feeling. trying to show me? >> Like, you know, like, okay, if I'm. angry, what why? Like, okay, what do. what what do I get by being angry right. now? I'm just trying to question a. little bit more about what's going on. >> But when I Yeah, dude. When we used to. do this, this was kind of messed up. We. would like write the and we might take. this out. We used to write the N word on. a piece of paper, right, to to get it. out of our system. And we would put it. into a bottle, like a message in a. bottle. And then we throw them in this. river not far from our house. Throw them. off this bridge off into this into this.

river. And then the craziest part was. though, dude, like a couple months. later, we're over at the park, which is. like a mile from where we're throwing. them off, dude. We see a dad and his kid. find pick up a [ __ ] pick pick up one. of these bottles and he the kid opens it. up. [laughter]. >> That's so sad. >> And the dad's like, "What does it say?". And we're just like, "Oh, bro, we got to. find a better way to dispose of this. >> There's a racist dude shipwrecked around. here." [laughter].

[gasps]. >> So, dude, we live and learn, man. That's. what we do. Um, you can live and learn. uh in one of the best possible ways. Dude, this is honestly the most fun. conversation I've probably had in a year. and a half. >> A that means the world to me, Theo. I. truth I love talking with you, man. It's. such a joy. And thanks for having me on. the show. >> That's the truth. You bet, dude. I'm. going to come on mystery boys. I want to. go down a rabbit hole. So, we got to we. got to procure a nice one. Um. >> Oh, yeah. >> And uh you can check out Mystery Boys um. with the good. We know he works for good.

Kurt Mezer. >> I I would argue saintly. >> Okay. Saint St. Mezer, dude. >> St. Mezer. >> I'll go for it. Um, Duncan Trussell, thanks so much, bro. >> Thanks for having me on. I really. appreciate it, Theo. Yeah, man. >> Thanks for watching, you guys. >> Now I'm just floating on. [music and singing] the breeze and I. feel I'm falling like these leaves. I. must be corner stone. [music]. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll. share this piece of mind I found. I can.

feel it in my [music] bones. But it's going to take.