Diplo | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #284

today's episode is brought to you by. gray block pizza for all of your pizza. needs if you need it they got it if. you're in Los Angeles you could stop. over there get that taste get that vibe. get your mouth full. 18:11 Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles on. the way to the beach gray block get that. hit or baby. today's guest is one of the most. successful and one of the most musically.

maybe provocative or I don't know unique. men that there is in the music market he. has a new album out which is a kind of a. country well I don't know what to. classify we'll get into it a little bit. but it is Diplo presents Thomas Wesley. chapter one snake-oil is the new album I. suggest you check it out it's got some.

real bangers on it. today's guest is none other than Diplo. [Music]. [Music]. [Applause].

I mean you did it we didn't even want. riffraff here right was it here okay so. like he helped kind of yeah I mean I was. I remember he was living in Baltimore. and I just was watching videos and I had. a label. I saw the label called Madison now just. like man this guy something special. about him and I linked him and had him. come up to LA and we worked a little bit. and we made his I signed him to his. first album on my label which for me in.

retrospect I think it was one of the. most groundbreaking hip-hop albums it's. like new generation and people don't. believe me but every time I work with a. young rapper they always brought him up. like cuz they're like 14 15 they watch. him on YouTube and he's like doing lines. of coke or like acting crazy or just. being unabashedly himself right yeah. yeah everybody is they had this free. Lycia and they see like this idea of. like the freedom that he did because he. was like and he was like the people on. worldstar would comment just he would. blow up on Wall Street was like [ __ ]. this like you know you're like what the. [ __ ] is this [ __ ] but it's like.

drove the the videos up to were like so. confused and if you're like an older. person like I don't get that hip hop but. if you're like 14 15 like oh I love this. lovely honey aspect of this so like. that's a good word he's like punk hip. hop yeah he was Punk and he was just. everything was freestyle - I mean he was. so same with him I bet the podcast is. just so good cuz the guy's so fast like. he just oh he's a theory can everything. see freakin comes up with pools out of. space is just like what the [ __ ] bro. Iranian Lamborghini dude he has uh what. was the alcohol I want to give him I. know he has a new album out right now.

going oh yeah vanilla gorilla so. everybody go and get that and support. riffraff man yeah I love him dude when I. so I went to his place in the water. field and yeah up in Deerfield so we get. there we go to the front door right and. I'm kind of nervous because it's almost. like meeting like an endangered species. yeah you don't know for the first time. you must be pretty daunting and creature. remember in Jurassic Park when they kind. of hurt milling around and they know. that their sores out there I made to see. the big old brontosaurus and it's kind. of like that yeah he's like that when.

you're riding along you don't know where. the animals gonna kill ya. and then we get to the front door and it. has been welded shut. there is no way actual door yes it's. just a huge piece of metal. why do you get in row that's fine so I. start just saying things that I'd seen. on Harry Potter you know like still. trying to open the try open the door and. then he takes us it that he comes out. his ass isn't coming out through the. garage and he met us in there insistent. he had no if it's got Maserati Micah oh.

yeah always has people around they're. just like crazy people I don't know. crazy but also slash Barber and Maserati. might give me some stripes in my head. too they were really really dope and I. felt like when he did that that I was. did he have the mullet when you. interview yeah he just got in it he has. a good mother. yeah oh he's got beautiful hair I cut. his brothers hair Victor is that he. don't know it's a grand Instagram mmm. and he has good yeah he has a good uh. yeah yeah. that's a young mo now your mullet slow. fuller punk you shade the insides a.

little bit more yeah it's getting a. little more I have I had the straightest. hair that like my mullet I'm gonna get. him out soon because my last thing. before I just shave the head off because. are you going all the way back to that. brought 41 I mean like this is my last. chance to grow my hair long I don't. think this is like it was like an. accident I started doing it I'm just. like I can't turn back now it's like a. one-way street and I'm so scared I'd do. it I just give up on the dream of having. long hair Yeah right someone go to mow. it and I but have to straight ass hair. so it's gonna look like oh yeah it's.

gonna yeah like a Joe Dirt like but I. don't I don't even I don't even have the. hair that sticks up there like how those. guys like the 80s guys had the [ __ ]. things that pop up it's nothing like. that's gonna look like I mean people of. any like I don't know if you can pull up. any Mullis eye or straight hair mullet. it's pretty yeah let's go straight yeah. I think his hair was bleached you so. much you got like fluffy but it's kind. of hard to do the straight hair mullet. man or straight it almost ring I didn't. want to say you said stream here I've. been here I'll be honest man it's like.

and someone my last leg over here and. these are like these are like a lot of. women coming everyone that good a second. one that's what it's gonna look like a. prison I like that's what I'm gonna look. like bro and I think it's it's blond so. you're gonna think I'm bald really it's. gonna be pretty dude if you go full with. the front really really low-cut that's. gonna be a brave move but you're gonna. feel like a stallion yeah I mean who's. good Matt mullet is a diet. we're had good had a good mother died. from ninja die Antwoord he has a good. mother who totally uh he's a south.

african rapper mmm and his girlfriend he. was always talking about him yeah oh. yeah oh wow he does his girl has a. really good mullet - oh yeah I'd watch. their heads you never see never seen. them uh-huh they're they're a rappers. from South Africa that like he's an. old-school hip-hop rapper yeah like from. that era from South Africa but he like. thinks Afrikaans like the wackest. culture in the world so he kind of like. made a fake version of Afrikaans rapper. as I kind of a joke but it was amazing.

like this culture of like these kind of. like Cape Town like yeah been there a. couple times yeah they made fun of the. whole culture of like being like white. South African Afrikaans rapping and I. just made it actually cool he made his. amazing videos like super cutting-edge I. produce some of the music for them and. they made a movie about robots inside. that way they actually did amazing. things like fool artists I love the guy. neces that's hit the girl in the band. SiC rapper too and they both were like. they had a child together and they're. just like an awesome power cloud and.

they're doing like cool things for in. South Africa I mean II they're yeah I. think so I think they they represent. like Cape Town like kind of like this. kind of hybrid of like I mean South. Africa me one of the most amazing places. like culturally favourite country man. yeah I love it I mean like I go there I. work a lot in Africa with like mother. project Major Lazer and like I do shows. like Nigeria we go to Uganda Kenya and. South Africa it's like a bubble like. there's it really it exists on its own. cuz it's so diverse with laughs people. music and even the scene that is like. techno music they're like African techno.

African houses like African hip-hop you. know they speak and cos'è they speak. four different language they have hold. it for music sings in there Afrikaans. they like you know rock and roll it's. just the craziest most vibrant place. right hey us there I love that place so. much then if you see Cape Town they have. like these amazing communities there. they like doing like drifting and like. they're doing like these crazy it's just. it's just such a hop is our place I. wonder why well I guess because I mean. obviously they have so much African. culture they're like any time I've been.

there we even went up into like into the. country like away from some of the. coastal areas and went to like some. black colleges like the. first black college ever in like some. places so I could see how they just have. their influences are just all over the. place because it's also real kind of. avant-garde like there yeah they had I. think there's like this it was always. the richest African country um. it's terrible because like you know it. was it was colonized and I think it was. you know it's this hybrid of European. like four different tribes that are. really big and South Africa then you.

have like Indian culture and then like a. lot of immigrants and then the like know. like the last 20 years I mean a part. that only ended like the 90s which is. crazy and then it kind of dissolved into. like there's like chaos and Paulette the. political universe there but in general. um it's very it's a first world. countries like the infrastructure was. built during apartheid and it was always. like they had like space program you. know that they had like oh yeah eighties. they're like a space program I love to. see that I mean it's like this kind of. like sense of like I mean we just watch. die Antwoord in the movies or some of. the bits like sense of like aliens in.

South Africa you know like this kind of. oh the movie he didn't believe the guys. were like at district 9 like they're. right they're part of that that. community that do that cause that's a. fool like South African film and it kind. of feels like you know a realistic. version of like how aliens it something. about refugee culture because the aliens. like refugees they're put in just like. this they're they're put in selecting. ghettos yeah. and it's like it's like if you take the. idea of race and humans out of it you. think about it from a different. perspective that's the movie it's like.

kind of like you think about it in a. different way like how you know we're. actually one species humans right and. how can you like discern like the idea. of race and speed it's just like kind of. a really strong conversation because. I've ever get such a violent history and. um you know it's kind of cool now. because I think the younger generation. of kids I see when I go and play there. they're like finally post a part I like. the way they think about people in like. but if you meet people that are over 30. they still have this they still have. this sense of inbred racism in their. minds yeah but I'd have to get Rove yeah.

it's racism is kind of fascinating man. because some of it is I think it's some. of it sadly I think just takes time to. go yeah because some of it isn't even. some people's fault it is. it's the payer it's the grain is. something that's like it's almost like. that Reaganomics it's hard it's hard to. change your parents minds you know like. it's just it's. weird and yes Africa like really when. apartheid broke I think it was like a. strong like they the the whole culture.

chain rules change laws changed and like. broke really America's had this like. sliding dealing with racism like that's. never really gone anyway we never really. I mean we had like a civil rights. movement which which was you know people. always go back to that like that was a. big movie but really nothing when you. think about what's happening now like. nothing really has changed since then. for black Americans to where it's still. like ingrained like racism in our in our. in our society and you think about. places what is amazing about it so for. Iceland because they think about place. like Brazil even like they don't have. never had that they never had place it's.

like where they had a movement right for. like black Brazilians and Brazilians of. color like change the government the way. the country is but America had it but we. just still have no we're dealing with. racism so slowly right I mean the fact. that we're still like Mississippi. I was born in Mississippi is now have. the conversation to change the. Confederate flag off their flags like. that was the Confederate flag was put on. the city's flag during like the 1890s as. like to because that was a racy time. yeah it was definitely done as like a. moment like a really racist movement and.

like there's no reason to there's no. pride or heritage in that flag like for. me right I'm born Mississippi and I you. know I'm proud of him proud I was born. there but I mean there's no reason for. that symbol to mean anything to anybody. it's literally the symbol of losers and. it offends people so I don't understand. what the Cawood argument is well I think. and I can even not I can't justify the. argument but I know that I think there's. some people who just grew up with it not. being like maybe their grandparents it. was a racist thing for you know but I.

think there's like younger people who. are looks like oh that means that I'm. southern or that yes they did there's a. lot of disinformation like what it does. mean like in people people experience. like what black lives matter means or. defund the police it's like a shocking. idea right in the beginning but if you. just read into it a little bit and kind. of understand the concepts you can kind. of be logical about the way you think. about it if you think about the reason. of that image it's kind of easy to. understand why it's on inclusive but if. you're born there and you just grew up. there you want hold on to that because. that's you like I understand a little.

bit erudition yeah but you don't know. you don't think about oh wait that. actually is something that was. extremely racist yeah it's put into the. flag whatever so then you can feel oh. yeah that's why that's why bothers. people and then you got to realize like. is it that important to you right as it. is to them because it's actually. offensive to them for you it just means. like something they don't really. understand that it means but right for. you it's maybe something that you put up. on your wall but I think um you know cuz. I agree with you wholeheartedly you know. I know exactly what you're saying the. tough part is getting people to see that. other perspectives you're really getting.

them to see it you know and also yeah I. think for a lot of people and that would. be my only argument against not against. it but for understanding like having. empathy for why some people think oh. you're taking away a piece of my. tradition you know it's just the. tradition to them not as what is the. history yeah everybody America was like. feel like the fighting the whole like. there's fighting for like hold on to. something like but it's like you gotta. understand what is it what's it really. mean if you can I wanted to find it to. yourself if you dig that deep you'll be. like oh actually you know it it's kind.

of [ __ ] but you might take you while. to scratch the surface right that's a. good there and that's the thing and. that's the that's what I think um you. know it's like having empathy for people. as they figure out what's that process. and that's sometimes I think what's hard. to do between different sides it's like. you know it's you know I've been lucky. enough and you know the comfortable. place and they kind of get to another. place where you can kind of get a. different view of things even as going. to South Africa bro I remember the first. time I went to South Africa the first. country I ever went to outside of. America why did you go there for the. first time I was working on a reality.

show when they took us there as a trip. oh yes that's right and I remember. getting there and I remember there were. so many weird like these Soweto villages. and stuff there's so many black people. yeah just so many and I grew up in. Louisiana it was really 5050 in our area. but I remember thinking holy smokes all. these people and there's a lot of. Christians too there and I remember you. know I believe in going to heaven and. stuff and so I remember thinking holy. smokes there's gonna be a lot of black. people in heaven I've never it's kind of.

weird to conceptualize it that way it is. then I'd never thought about it you know. I guess I'd only go on mostly white. churches and you know not that I thought. heaven was only for white people but. when I saw it was just I mean some of. the Soweto villages worth tens of. thousands of people out in these like Li. shus and shane towns you. and I was like holy smokes like all. these people are gonna be in heaven too. and I'd never put that other countries. also go to heaven I think I just never I. thought heaven was just for America is. crazy thing about America that's the.

most segregated place in America's. churches like literally you never see. like white and black people go to church. together yeah it's always like a defined. but Church it brings in effort yeah sure. chickens like everybody's there having a. good time but I just thought about that. it's not like a bad thing religions you. know it's organized in a certain way but. you never it's I went to church all the. time as my as the young person it was. just like our neighborhood down in. Florida or Mississippi was like like a. white church yeah and the black church. was on another side of the street or. whatever and there never was like the. black churches [ __ ] highway way more.

of our life gonna go the black church. you know every once in a while. did I ever go to a black funeral and be. here like damn I want to be black man. but cuz it will do in Louisiana you have. like the most amazing funeral culture. it's like created the second line and. like jazz funerals and like wow it's. like just definitely going to heaven are. you going Sun percent you're going. somewhere way better than we are. okay I don't wanna go there and just. like a guy like going oh dude I want the. top of this I want the top of the casket. to be wet that's how I am.

we had a question that came in for you. actually right here there's questions I. should not sure if our audio up or now. mm-hmm. it looks like my my nephew my feet man. what up the what up Diplo a legend man. Diplo I just wanted oh man what made you. want to drop the country album oh [ __ ]. thanks laughs yeah bump it every day. other than that may keep doing what you.

do in Gang Gang. it was just I was just talking to uh to. my book to the to earnest who worked in. Morgan wall and in the car on the way. here. and we were talking about it like. growing up I lived in Nashville or a. couple years at Hendersonville and I. didn't consider myself part of like. country or now I was in the hip-hop. scene there doing stuff but um when you. grew up there's like the channels are. like 31 is CMT and then 33 is B et and. remember I gotta have school I would. watch the CMT counter country countdown. and I would watch the rap city rap.

towards and I was always like the fusion. of that between commercial breaks I. switched channels I'll watch like you. know I'd see like Alan Jackson videos. and then I watched like Karis 1 or like. wu-tang and I just was like grew up with. that music everywhere and you know kids. in their trucks riding around doing the. same thing listen to the country hip-hop. and um my album isn't really a fusion of. that but I grew the last couple years. I've been like getting more and more in. the country because the artists are so. awesome and like so much good stuff. coming out of Nashville Songwriters you. know from Morgan like Chris Stapleton to.

my guy startled Simpson yeah and there's. just I was like Dan this stuff's like. awesome like Maren Morris you know Kacey. Musgraves I was like getting into the. vibe a little bit and I was thinking. like what this this shouldn't be a taboo. thing to do is like work on country and. when we three made the first song Morgan. it was like very controversial for. Nashville even for him like it was a. trap record kind of night I don't even. think about that is but the drums that. fit on the record right um but it was.

like never got played on country radio. we had to get it on healy yeah I got a. highway on the and still not playing a. country radio cuz they don't they think. it's to you guys is remake you mean the. one year there's a new album yeah but. it's more it's called heartless and. Morgan Wallen it's like kind of like got. a toe weights and stuff in it yeah so. yeah so it's just. but it's dream like crazy so like all. these kids are listening to it and. people are doing a tick-tock on like. this you kind of don't need the national. scene to do the country music like you. have to like a order to get in there I. felt like and I just felt like me and me.

and Morgan we did this record and he. believed in me I'm so glad he gave me. this record and we did it separately we. did we stream the record and kids liked. and I think like kids are that guy's age. like high school kids and older kids are. just this this music this fusion of a. kind of like Club and hip hop and. country. which is enforced just we worked hard on. making it make sense yeah it really is a. time for that right now where people can. like I said no country is playing and we. almost having like half a million. streams and album already but it's also. interesting too because I think that. younger generations you see them they.

want it to be they want to find it in an. alternative way yeah. and it's weird we get stuck in all in. ways that we kind of grew up with yeah. like you want to get it on this like I. said like we do some of the churches I. mean when you go to high school you're. like you get in with the art kids you. get in with like the the jocks you get. them like the goth kids I mean if you're. a black kid you're gonna do a certain. thing like you're gonna live with your. experiences in a neighborhood like you. might get into hip-hop it's gonna be. hard for you to get into goth music. alright metal music but some kids do it.

nowadays kids don't have only the. information in their neighborhoods they. have YouTube they have tick-tock and. they're getting exposed to everything. and they make this choices about what. they want to be what they want to do. really really early like used to be kind. of like you know you have these genres. and you kind of as people you get put. into them too because of the amount of. information you get and think the last. couple years it's just there's no genres. we're like we broke that down I think. that's why it's a time or record like. this can exist you know and like you. aren't you know her you know rapper like. I think Outkast is a good example when. they came out they just broke down all.

barriers and they made quality musically. made funk they made rock they made hip. hop to me like you know trap music and. they just like crush it internationally. I think that was like a good example of. what you could do you can mix everything. up together and I think that from then. on they open the door for a lot of music. just be like genre this and I've always. been a mmm like a sponsor of that you. know yeah you seem really kind of genre. list especially I feel like as you get. more into like kind of learning about. you know what you've done and where. you've gone through and like even just. of the locations that you've done a lot. of your shows like you'll do some I mean. even just saying that you've done shows. in Nigeria Tunis time if you said to.

knees or not but Uganda we play like you. play like Uganda Independence Day cuz. the price I gotta do another project. called Major Lazer is just yeah we it. doesn't really it's not like a big. project in America we had a huge record. called lean on that was here a couple. years ago and like lighted up but never. really like the brand never worked it's. like Cooper guys like me my friend is. Jamaican my friend Mexican ape drums and. wall street fire we're just like this. diverse group we have dancers and we do. a show but it didn't really fit into the. trend in America where we like were able. to tour.

whatever but in Africa just took off. like that project cuz I think Africa is. just a also place where you see the. fusion like you seen South Africa's like. that diverse place and like Uganda Kenya. especially we were we had these big. shows there were more people come to our. shows in Kenya than I could get in like. New York we have like 15,000 kids and. like in Nairobi our shows and we got. paid really well and then Africa's. difficult to because you have a couple. markets where you can make but Nigeria I. always go there and play for free like. the first couple times I went there. because they don't give a [ __ ] they were. just like that like the Nigeria music.

scene is so enormous and it's so big and. right now it's so influential that we. had to like actually chip our way into. that and then finally had some fans. coming then we had a couple records over. that did well there and for a couple. years I just cost around like Africa and. like you know Europe for touring for. that project cuz it was those what money. was yeah and then um you know being here. quarantine and the working on the. country I was the first time where I've. had like a record connect in America. actually so I've been just pushing that. on making videos and marketing it's. really good we have a guy who works on a.

different podcast called king of the. sting and he is the only black Henry. Rollins fan yeah but it's interesting to. see like that a younger generation is. not things aren't as linear you know. like we talked a lot about beige power. here that one day like we're all. hurtling towards this beige skin tone. eventually where it's like we have one. we're gonna be one person. yes globalization it's like just you. know it might be slower than you think. but it might be faster at the grow and. work towards you know one culture I mean. people we have only one YouTube right.

and then today so you have a records. that can go anywhere they can get big in. Africa they can get big in China Japan. and you have like its lock it also. equalizes anybody can just upload a song. to SoundCloud or YouTube and it can go. you don't need a label you don't need. you see me because that changes the. there's not as much of that the the the. glass ceiling that your keeper you don't. need you don't need a to break through. all these doors to get to where you were. like if you're in a band back in the 60s. you first have to save up money to get a. guitar whatever learn it find people who. like guitar to become a band then your.

energy. leave your song yeah divorce your wife. whatever go to Sons yeah yeah find some. money to go to studio recorded demos. it's already three years into your. project then maybe find someone to send. your demo to and then maybe. sucks almost dick at a label to get in. the door whatever that's like three and. then you need a woman in the band I just. got a it's it was so rough and it the. process took so [ __ ] long and then. maybe they'll give you a deal what's. gonna suck obviously yeah then you've.

gotta force them to market your music. and maybe make it what video it's going. tour we're talking a five year process. to get your one [ __ ] song out right. now kids are like seventeen suburbs of. Fort Lauderdale have a buckin crazy-ass. haircut and a face that bang drop a. record in their [ __ ] little teeth. yeah just got to be a [ __ ] but it's. got to be a movement like for me peep. was like amazing you know I took me a. while to like get into music I became a. huge fan and like xxx notation other guy. was just like I was like these guys are. like doing it from the heart really like.

even with riffraff in beginning you just. feel like it's really raw and real. because they didn't have any it's almost. like folk music they had no background. to do it they just dropped what they. feel like they could do and it was like. people and kids connected with it like. wow yeah they would even be fun like. really [ __ ] up making the music. sometimes I mean riff raff I couldn't. [ __ ] make it longer than without a. bag cocaine it was a [ __ ] we had a. studio and there was a painting I got. like a gold record on the wall he he. [ __ ] dug a hole behind the painting. and hid cocaine this I was like where's. the coke coming from my you always had a. bad cocaine hidden in a wall socket.

somewhere and I was like and without the. cocaine he would be like trying to write. lyrics like what the [ __ ] and then with. a coke go in the booth 16 [ __ ] verses. just drop it on like left and right so. not to say you should do cocaine but for. some people it just helped a little bit. look it's Florida look that's considered. a hobby in Florida and it's a little wet. that's the thing about that Florida. cocaine man it's how they got a little. damp on the top it's crazy the different. places where drugs are so accessible. like Florida yeah Cook was like people. in high school were just doing it me now. and you know it's the kids are doing. nowadays but I don't know if kids are.

doing as much I wanted to I want to tell. the refresh story too because it is so. much fun there's something about him. it's like seeing the only it's like. somebody knows where there's like a. frickin like hippopotamus and they're. not telling anybody else you know he's. like he's just like and if you get its. he not a career long career nama he's. been like doing this like 10 years and. you going that you tube down the hole. Donal would go over there for like a. week yeah. is crazy XD if we cut up a mango for me. man he said he was changing his diet.

mangos only he told me I've seen him go. through a lot of different diets man he. was on a drug bending WWF diet once oh. yeah he's I think he's vegan though he's. last couple years I mean he's in sugar. so I think he's doing good for him yeah. last time I saw him he was getting more. and that was more the the vibe he was. going for I took him to the premiere of. that movie um game changers which is a. movie about Arnold Schwarzenegger. produced in the James Cameron it's a. movie about likes at the how you don't. know this but the best athletes in the.

world are vegan and they have been for a. while i colitis wait let the guy was. like the strong man of the world like. the biggest weightlifter this guy. Armenian guy he's vegan the best female. like bike riders being in the best track. runners are vegan and I don't suggest. ivory be vegan cuz I think it's just you. know you got I know that's interesting. though that's interesting but when. you're doing when you're doing yeah that. guy is vegan here I got that bomb you. can actually get big Iranian song but. he's he looks awesome got the sickest I. mean if you get the mullet and those. sideburns no the Icelandic guy gots a.

beast he's like seven foot tall the. other guy but that guy he's apparently. the biggest weightlifter and he's vegan. huh yeah the Chris Paul was they were. talking about a new diet that Chris Paul. was doing I think it was vegan in. Houston and Chris was at the time of the. battle player yeah he was the premier so. is DeAndre Jordan who also he's. hilarious he's big. yay Texas he actually was the high. school of it with the riffraff did he. really I think the biggest ones they. recognized you know what riffraff has. the best reason so I'll pull I'll get.

there so I go into the garage he shows. me all the clothes that I owned from. 1991 right there his but yeah actually. they could have been my child of the. clothes he just happen to have him in a. box at his house right he probably could. still wear him it makes sense of Elkins. bro he had all just every anything that. ever color yeah anything anything with. the Air Jordan like more colors and like. totally all of that in the box then he's. like let's go for a ride so he give me. this pretty cool Bice was it a bicycle. yes like a motorized bike and he got on. a four-wheeler and we literally went.

through his neighbor's they gave me a. bison and I wrote it right I was like we. do some coke. the body some went and bought a couple. grams while I was on it that's a big. bankroll that body said yeah like I. don't know Joe nobody miss me. brotherbrother coke to bear yeah there's. a there's a bunch of coke maybe you look. up the cokes up bears another good story. a guy was like drug dealing and like. pain crashed and he was like the drug.

trafficking in Kentucky and a bear found. all this coke and ate all of it and he. was like he ate like a pound of cocaine. but and then they found this bear and. they found he was like just raging and. coke in the forest and he died within. like 20 minutes yeah but they've. taxidermy he's like in a state hall or. something like the craziest coke bear. there is Pablo Escobar. what he died he did the most coke of any. animal of all time. disappear uh does Nic Cage now open this. back I feel like he would buy you.

probably I'd say snort some of the Bears. hair probably God yeah what about. Swilley I saw you had him on at Mon no. he's from Tupelo as well yes Whaley. actually my only show ever did in. Mississippi was in Tupelo they just do. this they used to do that Christmas at. the casino where now how was it it was. in a um it was in a like there must be a. basketball arena for there's a. university around there or something it. was like ten thousand capacity maybe. northwestern Louisiana or so it was no. it wasn't it was in Tupelo like there's. like a little tiny arena there they had. myself country shows and things like.

that to show there and honestly bro that. show gave me a lot of faith in. Mississippi because I mean I'm from. Mississippi they're both from Tupelo the. brothers and then you know Elvis was. born and oh yeah hello. we went to his childhood home on our. last tour we stopped over there the home. he was born in Memphis I think they they. they the the guys who sold him his first. guitar can in my show they had like. another museum there and they he's the. bike hardware stores just used to so. musicians instruments back in the 50s I. guess that's where you buy in a music. shop so you'd go to a hardware store and.

have a guitar up there and they had a. his hardware store came and gave me like. a bunch of memorabilia and stuff but. that crowd was like I mean he was weirdo. segregated like there was the groups of. kids in there for high schools but it. was like the first thought thing this. would be ever had a show that was like. equally wide Atlantic kids are just knew. every lyric to every song and you know. I'm glad to. kids even knew the [ __ ] I was I was like. up there DJing with them but it was the. the mayor came out and gave me the key. to say that's awesome and raise rumors. come at me never skids are amazing. they're like I'll cast to me like.

they're they're also like a like I said. kids I don't they don't have her [ __ ]. rules. like they grew up like probably listened. to everything in sways voice is amazing. we did a bunch of right we did a record. with a ellie goulding called close to me. that went yeah yeah yeah I heard that. man yeah there we were right there yeah. that was in Tupelo actually so that was. the home that yeah that Elvis was born. and we just stopped there on the last. tour man yeah I'm a big guy was fan yeah. man attention but then they also say. that nine that we brought the gob last. time some of his to some of his songs. were bought off of a black back then I.

think a lot of times they were he was. definitely ripped everything off of yeah. black rockabilly you know like early. rock artist name sure the johner was. back then but I mean he was he had like. 5,000 songs like some amazing I'm in the. beginning I'm sure he had black. songwriters he wrote some stuff at Sun. Studios would like you know Johnny Cash. even and um most other guy used to write. was his records uh another another East. Tennessee guy wailing yeah but I mean he. was I mean everybody knows that Elvis. story I mean he was definitely uh no it.

was it was in Sun Studios there's a. picture of Johnny Cash Elvis and Carl. Carl Perkins. and there's like the four of these guys. it was like an amazing vibe in that. studio but um you said you want me. Johnny I mean Elvis has a oh he still. look very people loved this picture sick. look at this guy Million Dollar Quartet. it's Carl Perkins yes right and Elvis. got them baby cheeks almost a kiss but. skin on his face. it's a beautiful face nice this early.

looks like I got Botox back in. Mississippi style Jerry Lee Lewis really. Louis yeah that guy was a freaking well. he's from Louisiana. he wouldn't that guy would have made it. these days marrying a 13 sister in. Hollywood he's still my baby no he. actually it ruin his career he actually. flew to Europe and it just became like a. it was like a early like tabloid thing. and he couldn't really get past it. Wow yeah he was him and uh him and. Richard Richard a little richer had this. crazy [ __ ] beef like they were like.

they were like they were like always. like asking. good headline the shows and I remember. like it was always like play shows again. I was like who's gonna who's the. headliner and at one point either he or. Richard just set the whole panel on fire. yeah and I walked offstage because they. open for one of them and then I think. they became friends in the end like in. the eighties they did a song together. but there was like a beef that's. gangster breath because they were both. like this piano rocking southern dudes I. mean oh yeah man he's from 30 Louisiana. I think I saw him about five years ago. actually at his daughter sang a couple.

of the songs but he would come out for. like every other one that would kind of. wheel him out you know fire and play so. it story Jerry that was set piano fire. yeah that's like the good old days and. when you do a show and you're so mad. probably [ __ ] drunk as [ __ ] and your. [ __ ] you I don't know kind of drugs you. doing but then quaaludes or something. right no you see you see walk hard that. movie with john c reilly yeah Oh Mike. you gotta watch it it's one of the. [ __ ] best music documentaries about. it's fake but basically john c reilly.

does everything like invents country. events like palm convent's like he just. he's brian wilson and a lot of yeah. force companies like he kind of dude the. Johnny Cash saw the Train cash movie car. I walked all walked all and they called. isn't it make fun of that but john c. reilly does every genre and like is this. crazy country guy and have like 100 kids. by the end of the movie does every drug. yeah by the movie those days you were. pulling up in talent somebody literally. somebody to say hey these are drugs and. it would just be like almost it'll be so. funny cuz it was like he walks into the.

back room in his home what's that what's. the black comedian at SNL guy like Tim. Meadows. Cyn Meadows every time he walks in the. backstage Tim I was like smoking weed. he's like what are you doing Tim I was. like it's marijuana man you don't want. to do this yeah like what he's like what. does it do it makes you feel happy and. you melt you out you feel great you. don't want to do this he's like I think. I want this marijuana and he does that. and then the next like 10 years ladies. like what we do and he's like it's. called cocaine but what does it do it. was like oh no man it's do you want this. it makes you feel great and excited I'll. try to cocaine this is like heroin that. like three years later it's like.

addictive it already looks like it looks. like Jim Morrison in the pictures look. at that I'll bring you gotta watch the. movie it's my favorite movie of all time. Wow dude now gotta watch I just watch. uncut Jim's last night that's dark bro. it was good though. I wanted the guy to die so bad man. because he just wanted to pain this yeah. he just never had it and everything's no. way there's no way this is gonna end. well you just know like you wanted to. get back with his wife then you but the. side girl was hot and then you wanted to. win but you know you're never gonna win. and then anything you wanted didn't then.

he does in any way oh [ __ ] this came. together and he dies oh yeah the last. Jim gets cut but there was awesome by. the movie bro is the [ __ ] soundtrack. is phenomenal and I think it was a. unique way to do a soundtrack it wasn't. it was sound that I felt like there's my. perception it was sound that made me. feel comfortable yes and it made me it. was like sound that tried to get me just. through small sounds repetitive beats to. get me feel a certain way one of my. favorite musicians of all time is Hans.

Zimmer and I love Blade Runner and the. new Blade Runner I loved even more and. the soundtrack was so [ __ ] amazing I. loved ambient music I loved that kind of. like futuristic music and the guy who. did the soundtrack I think his name is. 100 point tricks this is ambient guy and. he just the fact that the director went. with that guy to make a movie and he. just it's so it felt so wrong that when. he when it's in the movie this is the. weird like since but then he just yeah. it really puts you on edge on the on the. right level for you to be uncomfortable. watching them yeah yeah I never felt. like that I never felt like what's I'm. watching the movie I'm enjoying it but.

also something else is happening to me. and what is it what is causing that and. yeah it was just it was because. soundtracks are really difficult to do. and like to make you have to watch the. film and like put it in you know you. gotta kind of close get closure with the. whole film coming together with the. sound and that guy he crushed and I'd. love that although that I love the. soundtrack more than the film actually. listened back to it. have you been pushed to do soundtrack. you'd be done him before nah but that. made that movie made me want to do it. because I am during quarantine I haven't. really worked on a lot of new music.

I've been putting out this comes from. their country stuff and working on some. house music but I just don't don't first. you don't wanna do sessions because this. isn't really do you don't really want to. get anybody you know sick or whatever. you don't get sick but then I don't feel. like you can't really sit down during. this weird time it feels a little more. like less heavy than it did in March and. April now even though slightly worse I. guess but there's other cases but yeah. the vibe is a little different now it is. I feel there's a anxiety attack feeling. you know like you don't feel like you. feel like there's some and they're gonna. be end. right like simply film people getting.

out of it like New York City for. instance beat this thing you know so we. can do it but in the beginning I was. like I had like a lot anxiety attacks. and just fell like weird you don't wanna. like write a song about like a love song. you don't feel you can't write a pop. song during all that vibes the energy is. not right so I was writing a lot of. ambient music I was just like doing. stuff with sand sand making these. records that are just like Spacey and. like no drums and I did a whole EP then. I'll drop at some point that just made a. slow thing I've done during quarantine. is like that kind of music just sounds. yeah sounds like kind of but you got it.

it's like kind of classical music but. with since like I mean that's kind of. what neoclassical music and ambient. music is it's like you you put chords. together and you kind of build things up. with like arpeggiators and then you you. know Brian Eno it all knew him he. produced on u2's Joshua Tree and he's. like an ami an artist but he kind of. combined these new ideas of sound with. pop records back in the 80s and it's. amazing I wouldn't consider him a. composer but it's like yeah it's like. being composed and I guess doing this. kind of music rather than that do you. get like a little bit jealous whenever.

you see somebody like do something like. a loophole or something or crowd of let. me start to see the new thing you're. like oh yeah and that's how you work on. music I just been I'm a producer more. than an artist you know I think with. this with the country album is the first. time I've done like a full artist record. on a major label but before that I've. always been like Beyonce want a record. uh sure wants a record you know a rock. band wants a record or I work in the. studio with different writers and. propose ideas and I come up with. concepts that's what a producer does it. kind of like you work with the artist. and you think like google riff raff you.

like how can I make what I like about. this guy how can I make the best version. of him that's what you do with anybody. maybe it's Madonna maybe it's a Adele. whatever it is you know you aim for the. biggest records the big artists then you. work with something like riff raff to. just like this is it [ __ ] awesome. like this is something really cool when. that lovely does or sway Lee and you you. know you can find new artists too but as. a producer your job is to create. concepts and you know and I maybe not. even writing the piano like you can be. like Rick Rubin and just sit back and. just like just fine-tune that idea with. the Chili Peppers but is it hard to.

figure out though like sometimes I find. even for myself from doing comedy and. doing just different types of things. within the world is it hard to figure. out what what some of your real strong. suits. and then to focus on those even if those. went against like yeah like sometimes. somebody you know I mean I was gonna be. the star sometimes but then you're like. oh man but I'm so good at this but the. this weird idea of a star always I've. never been really good at anything even. playing music I mean I've always been. like like I said I would come up with.

like we're I find the the loopholes. where the no one was doing stuff like. Major Lazer started cuz like no one was. making this like reggae and dancehall. music you know and I had done stuff with. this girl in MI a was like my girlfriend. a time I made amazing records oh damn. dude and I went to a mic this is cuz. it's full circle really quick i defer i. saw john c reilly a dan in my a concert. in New Orleans at the it was it started. like a House of Blues no this was in. like a warehouse or something it was. like 4:00 a.m. I started but anyway DJ.

for a lot of shows back in those days. but we did this fusion she was an artist. that really put me on to like how far. you could go with just ideas and she had. these ideas and she [ __ ] crushed it. and I I learned a lot from her and I. think we started like this major laser. thing cause I was like no one's doing. this we could do it in a different way. like dancehall records in reggae because. no one's doing it and it took a while we. made some big records and and then they. grew it just but it wasn't something no. one was doing yeah and then back then no. one was even streaming music you know as. we worked really hard in the streaming. services because a lot of the majors.

were not really pushing streaming. they're still fighting to sell physical. copies and I didn't all independently we. did it on our own and I learned a lot. from there but I think you find little. projects like that people don't do is. sometimes you take risks and they don't. work I had my first album I producers a. band called on Rollo Tomassi and it was. a fully metal math rock band I didn't. know what I was doing but his Didache. says the guy that does my first job and. then the next day I was working with. Bruno Mars I'm feeling like he was a. songwriter back then when I first moved. to LA I just did whatever jobs I had you. just make your way up to where you could. hopefully place a big record with.

somebody need to learn a lot like I. learned everything from coming to LA and. leaving behind the idea of being artists. and being like a producer in the game. here and then and then as I got better. at that I kind of got sick of that like. I don't know why records other people. right and I started doing my own little. projects and then and just being. creative yeah because you know doing a. project writing the music is for me I. think it's like 20% of the project the. other 80% is coming up with the concept. in the marketing and like what it is. video things like you think. the name of the style the way you can. address this project you kind of come up. with these you create the artists and.

that's that's 80% of what artists are. nowadays oh four in my opinion you have. to come up with like a real brand right. now and that's what people get first the. music comes secondly like if you see. someone like this fascinating like what. is this and you dig into it you're like. oh that's a great example yeah he's all. brand I mean he was just like his music. is great too but it was all brand but. another like marshmallow another guy you. know like he's a DJ and I think oh yeah. he's yeah they might be like 90% brand. cuz he's just like the concept is so. strong what he does it's so easy to.

identify with and then he puts our. quality music as well like it's ease pop. artists but I mean he no other DJ could. do that because they're just another guy. yes a marshmallow right kids can. gravitate to that really easy and I. think what he did is a great marketing. campaign from the jump his manager and. him really crushed that you him he came. run have that great uh yeah their. country record that great song yeah um. you know I had that record originally. that he sent it to me like I actually. was like Texan canes like man it was. like me and marshmallow fighting for.

that record actually in the beginning so. it's gonna be something for my project. and then um I lost the battle oh that's. whatever came Brown he stole me record. bro yeah man I love came Brown yeah um. you know New Orleans when I was growing. up a lot of the artists over there were. like the big timers and uh you know. little white dwarfs that hip-hop. revolution the New Orleans episode uh uh. I need a great this whole I'm gonna. agree watch this whole episode and write. down all the things I don't want anyone. starts with like Master P and M in New. Orleans for me bro it's the first black.

thing Memphis it has the longest. cultural significance in hip-hop right. people can argue me but like when you. think about what music sounds like now. hip-hop it all comes back to this. Memphis sound like this aggressive this. dark and the trap beats and like it's. just lasted forever and it was a small. flash tin pan with three six and like. 8ball & MJG were doing it and the New. Orleans was like the same kind of sound. and it's an electronic drum sound they. like blood the electro they loved like. many freshers and they can you know like. these kind of like 808 sounds and they. mix it with the second lion jazz and.

then Big Tymers and then Master P came. up with the idea of independent label. and he [ __ ] crushed in and it's cash. money came out and then and had this. amazing bounced. I love someone mad so I was gonna get to. it about scene because uh yeah like Big. Freedia like some of the Artemis she's. the most popular but the bounce scene. there has been probably the biggest. thing it's come out and it's never. laughs and it's the same Rio Frieda I. was I worked with this um I worked a. couple bounce artists there's flyboy ki. know there's Cissy know be it's it's.

very gay. it's crazy people realize how gay the. hip-hop scene in New Orleans is a lot of. the rappers and labels you know you talk. to like mr. cool or like these guys I. was with I was a mystic on the studio. know and after got at jail and I had. just on this record called express. yourself with um Nicki to be who was. another gay bounce artist from New. Orleans and um it's like my fusion of. like dance music in New Orleans bounce. back then and I'm never playing it from. mystical in the studio I was like man. can you jump on a super game the video.

was gay too and I was like can you jump. on this record and you know mystical. said to me was like bro that's hard. that's actually New Orleans music and he. knew that's like that's acts at the. scene he wasn't like homophobic or. anybody's like man I just can't come out. of jail and do it like this record right. now I can't really like do a verse on a. gay bowser Eckerd but um I'll be right. but but at the same time he had respect. and like knew that that's like real New. Orleans music cuz if you don't realize. like even the you know big Frida's in. that record with Drake that came out.

last year because of Drake's last album. had a lot of bounce influences all New. Orleans records on it but there's not. there hasn't been a that there hasn't. been a strong hip hop's been the only. our bounces been the only real music to. come out of that area kind of I feel. like there's that one interesting. nineties. oh you mean not third a third I've three. goes down something like that Reaser. studio when I worked on music with them. oh I don't you talking about they're. nice guys - yeah that's my other thing I. was really I remember wrong there's.

nothing there's a jam man from New. Orleans oh dude. one of them owns a freaking restaurant. where I'll take my stepdad all the time. and I mean if you get if you want to. learn for me meters is Funk and country. completely mastered majesty their font. but they're like country road. and they're instrumental like meters are. like wife they're like one of my biggest. influences of all time like they're so. dope like a New Orleans funk is just.

like gonna learn about music New Orleans. is the birth of all American music in my. opinion Wow like everything comes from. New Orleans you know from the history of. like it's the perfect combination of. African music and European music and go. bat no that's not dog something look at. indie band New Orleans maybe an indie. band indie rock New Orleans but there.

hasn't been a reason why there hasn't. been a strong hip-hop artists that's. come out of there in a while I mean you. think there would be so well there's. like others in the NBA young boy from. Baton Rouge dad's name was that sure. he's might be the biggest oh there's. also there's Kevin gates yeah and be. young boys from that is he from Baton. Rouge I mean he's like one of the. biggest like low-key yeah yeah he like. low-key he's one of the biggest figures.

and hip hop around even no one named a. young boy song but like he just every. girl knows him it was music he just is. always loving and booty but he lives in. Atlanta yeah boo see is that guy just. came out of jail like he was like he. missed all technology and then just came. what is it so great he and he denied it. I asked him we cause he came and I asked. him I said do you think that because you. were in jail you missed kind of like the. evolution of Technology so you came into. Instagram we're just way too real I was. so ready. it didn't register for him but I thought.

that's exactly that he got out and his. like friends gave us iPhones like what. is this like he was like it was like. literally came out of jail like went for. it was he missed the the clutch parts of. technology yep and just came back like. insane like he's a legend now anybody. you come back to him a lot of people. like if you do like that dirty hip-hop. he he's the guy and that's I don't know. much about Baton Rouge I know I only. went there wants to actually went to. little boo see I did a uh I was in Baton. Rouge for like my birthday I had nothing. I go on I was in New Orleans for my. birthday when I like turn like 24 I just.

went by myself to like read and just I. loved Louisiana I just like go to bars. and stuff and I had a friend there and. we went to see [ __ ] did a concert at a. mall in Baton Rouge night when Thomas. before he went to jail and that's the. only time we were in Baton Rouge was go. see boo see an awesome dude when he left. it was one of the first times I ever. felt like man I wish he was still here. like I'd be scared as [ __ ] they have. told you before he came be so scared.

Glenn Davis was on he's a basketball. player big baby he played for the. Celtics and he came on he's like you. guys big baby please pay for the. Clippers a while yeah any play for 14. Dorsey Florida all he played at LSU LSU. yeah there's like a Demetrius Demetrius. something's not a big giant Center like. fat passel player it was called the. meathook oh yeah big baby was a was not. he didn't look out letting but he was a. clipper we loved him he when he scored. points we were just the crowd went crazy. for love.

oh he's extremely lovable he has such a. good he's not look like a Mousehole. player honestly nobody he's 75 percent. heart you know. Dimitri Hill is a oh he was big too I. member watching him play but he loves me. and he lives in Las Vegas now he loves. being actually he just hit me up after. Dustin Poirier won that fight and they. ended up connecting man oh there you go. oh that's them is that that's me just if. they forgot your Gators remember that. yeah yeah here's a big boy dang it's. always fun when you see them big do it.

huh it's always fun man Jack was big too. but he ended up he wasn't really that. must he was he's built like a big giant. human being a lot of the stairs are not. like that not was yeah they really don't. had that center position anymore Shaq in. college jacket LSU he was leaning like. you man he was long me who uh who's that. Lakers player sits like cut you say. please don't like him or maybe Rockets. Dwight Howard he just like oh here's. like buff basketball player he's a model. I feel like I felt like he's more of a.

model look at the baby Shaq um you look. at young man I deejay with Shaq. sometimes he's like really yeah he's. played his podcast this week on he did. like a stream and he just. this guy's [ __ ] dedicated to DJ him. bro and he [ __ ] loves it he's a. dubstep DJ nice most aggressive DJ I've. ever seen my life he just goes. Betances in it before quarantine every. show he did he would go out in the. audience to hang out everybody in the. audience and he just Kassim he's like. towers of everybody but he's just like. what is it you think that he that he. that he just he really loves doing it or.

he he loves the vibe remember her talk. to them because he's just happiness bro. he just loves he just found a lot of. like contentment and like happiness. after the game I think he became you. know he's a sports commentator and just. he just smart and awesome look at this. guy bro crowd Jesus I love it so crazy. outside lands like he's one of the most. aggressive deejays ever look at him you. came with Fitness dude so that's what it. looks like when you're in there huh yeah.

I like that. looks does it always feel like sometimes. like like I noticed on stage if I'm. doing stand-up off I can feel a crowd I. can feel what's going on it's almost. like at some points it took a long time. but I feel like it's like that's when. you get in the pocket like I'm an. orchestra I am when you're good too at. that point you can just like you say it. like then you just flow right yeah just. feel right that yeah yeah well I can. there's a can. energy connection there's a in the.

beginning it's this nervous other energy. works like I'm trying to make sure I'm. doing my job. yeah and then later it becomes this. energy where it's like oh I'm. orchestrating the the feeling of this. environment yeah is it what is it what. does that feeling like when you guys are. doing your job I think when you DJ it's. always it's it's even more. understandable have to really feel the. rhythm of the crowd I've even picked the. records you're playing me I'm a more of. a I'm more of an open format DJ so I can. kind of do it whatever I kind of. improvise a lot of people just go there. concerts and it kind of the setlist you.

know what I do that when I'm headlining. some work stuff to program my lights but. mostly I'm in Vegas I'm like doing three. hours I'm just like looking at the crowd. and playing records I want to play and. then go I'm like trying to go they're. like you know what the jokes maybe you. go maybe it's not funny but you want to. push even controversy which is probably. hard really hard for comedians and me to. us walk the line now but you want to go. as contra so then you pull back whatever. so I think with me as DJ you still you. want to like sneak things in and like. okay that's wrong that's what that's. what DJ's that's what we've always been.

we've always. the people to push the boundaries where. the where the where the where the the. purest form of the distribution chain. like music happens and we're the ones. that give to people in the nightclub or. somewhere where they can feel the music. for real like because you can't really. feel it in your car on the radio you. might get pop records we we make dance. music and hip-hop to where we are our. job is to is to push it as far as we can. to be the best DJs. well it's interesting it makes me think. almost like if I'm in a supermarket you. got the area where everything is like in. the boxes and it's all boxed and pack is. perfectly for you then you got that.

produce area that's less you might find. an orange in a [ __ ] area that's the. real food yeah but you know I grew up my. sister I'm never going to eat at her. house like when I was back in town and. she only eats canned vegetables till we. grew up like that and she has it's and I. don't it's always like the public's cans. are like [ __ ] what's the other shitty. yes Albertsons or Piggly Wiggly and she. just doesn't ever been in the produce. section you know what it is you know. what a green bean looks like it was like. oh that's wet in a [ __ ] can what is.

that thing I was like she's like green. beans look like this and I'm like okay. my family would just only eight caddy. cans I don't know what and my mom well I. think it was just that time period - it. was okay I think it poses and yeah you. know what produce section didn't really. exist in like the 80s you might get some. app bag apples or whatever bag apples. you want to select your own apples no. that's no the government's gonna select. those apples for you and I'm sorry yeah.

knew each other for they guys you know. you gonna feel those apples here's your. bag [ __ ] growing cropping I'm. like I want to go to produce in like. buying [ __ ] but when I was younger you. never. mom didn't let you go over there yeah. that's for the liberal sorry shopping. producer doesn't you have a white nobody.

needs to pick their own pineapple that's. good government does that for you let's. get a question right here. I was just got talking about he's. driving the demo shaman does go now. you're a remix of projects hope you guys.

are doing great in real quickly I'm. sporting my Wow throw down baby. bear down dip oh I just had a question. for you would you ever consider doing a. fresh banger with our boy - conscious. six nine now that he's out of out of. jail at all. I know that you would love that I much. huge six my fan honestly his music bro. he puts the music out and I wait for it. I even show up at the time yeah he's.

having a lot of Instagram live I got to. stop the car. and why should I mean honestly he's the. first just the fact that he broke down I. mean I just love him just from being. just a [ __ ] biggest punk ass there is. oh she's like I'd love all that I love. that hip hop had this like kind of its. kind of boring now it's kind of like. there's the older guy they don't go away. and they kind of like talk about the. same [ __ ] I think beef and yeah they're. all [ __ ] beef and he's actually just. [ __ ] you yeah [ __ ] you here's your beers. there's a picture you being a [ __ ] and. like yeah he's not scared to anybody and.

I just love that he just kind of. deconstructed hip-hopping away and. people are like then one can kill him. it's like impossible I don't know you. came and bothered the guy I just was. wearing the brightest in the whole world. and he just has all he's like yeah the. other side but I'm rainbow hair guy and. you what the [ __ ] were you mad at me I. mean I just love that he any any and he. didn't have the number one with that. with this for the first thing I'll out. of jail and then he learned how to do it. and he did the you know tied in with the. sales of the clothes and the physical. and just it's all big [ __ ] hack at. this point yeah hacked it and he like he. learned from it and got the number one.

and everybody. [ __ ] everybody I love the actual [ __ ]. you that everybody that he did and he. came and did it yeah so I love him and I. would I'd love to work in my nose I know. him his his uh his label head really. well we worked on ideas back before he. went to jail and I'm having connected. with him since then but uh I last felt. not really doing hip hop right now but I. would do something with him just cuz I. love him as an artist yeah and that's. controversial people very like something. that that sucks but I just I [ __ ]. [ __ ] with him hard yeah yeah no I feel. you man I do - dude I'm like and I love.

how there's all these haters that he's a. guest it's almost like this invisible. world you know that he's created is real. renegade okay well even when you said. deconstructed I'd know I'd always heard. people say I'm a deconstruct something. but I never kind of knew what they were. talking about but just now when you said. that it there yeah because hip-hop has. this sort of like you think about these. rules needs little thing and you just. gotta like embarrass this buddy to like. kind of like people had people actually. don't be for them they're scared of him. now because you can't win because he'll. just do whatever you can there's no.

rules for him you know he's got and then. he gets Nicki Minaj in which is crazy. cuz they're always fighting over who's. Nicki Minaj's boyfriend but she she was. with him on the record Fifi you back in. the day I think she does also loves his. she's very controversial too you know. she'll say whatever the [ __ ] she wants. and I got a record coming out with her. real and Major Lazer this month and I. love her and I honestly I worked to her. a couple times and she is a [ __ ] hard. worker bro. he will E yeah we're never really been a.

fan she as a rapper lyrically I mean. she's like no one's don't get touch her. I feel like and then at the same time. like I we did the song together and she. went back and forth like I'm just like. small song you know maybe it'll be big. she's like like the record she did it. for me she likes me I think. but she just went back in the studio. like four times I could I didn't ask her. to say I won't change this part when. she's just part and she went like a. bunch of times asked me my my advice on. it and I'm real proud she's a real. collaborator and she does it like her. and Madonna or two women that were just. like they work harder than me and that's. hard I feel like I work pretty hard so.

they both like it sounds like a man I. wish that they could take your brain. whenever you pass and just splice it in. like they're literally hallways of a. library where people could walk through. and see what you might be some stuff in. there man I don't know if you want to. open that up define where you can some. double doors remember at the back in the. day they used to have a video store and. they would have the double doors where. the code I would sneak in there growing. up in Florida like I was gonna my. grandma's house my parents are just drop. me off there like [ __ ] that can't afford.

summer camp or nothing I had nothing to. do they were just driving four hours of. new smartness little small-town drop me. Graham. and I could only walk in my little Santa. live dirt roads in Florida we have sand. roads Wow I would walk [ __ ] mile to. the video store my grandma gave me like. five dollars I would just rent every WWF. video I watch every wrestle me because I. never paid for the pay-per-views I'll. watch like the last five years old I. watch like one summer watch like 500. Wessling contests and in every kung fu. movie there was I just that found the. porn area. oh yeah couldn't rent those without go.

I'd go back I go right I go see those. boxes right I mean just awkward it's. like going to the point. renting Eminem and stand in front of. somebody and have like a stack of like. these dirty pornos like but dude there's. almost more of a respect there there's a. line in the sand where you're like okay. am i me doing this or not doing this or. not yeah now it's too easy access oh. yeah like you can be it's too much. privacy back in there you're freaking. pervert we're gonna see ya outside. there's always a sex shop too that has.

like the pornos and like in Philly. there's like this one little area they. probably cleaned it up since I was. living there but there was one little. area where they had like this shops. where you just go and you could just. jerk off and like watch a girl behind a. glass and they would do things yeah. there's like this is like shops and then. you go there's video stores there's the. photos for me in New York had that [ __ ]. - I don't see idea of the sex the sex. shops doesn't even like thing anymore. not pool on hookers I'm talking about. like you were just like and I see a real. woman through glass yeah yeah did that. in one episode I never seen that. anywhere else though she would just do.

things kinda like what it I guess what a. a chat was called now the camera would. do yeah I'm real but they're the next. ones over there in Philly were probably. pretty dude I remember this now you made. me think of it this one time I was in. Amsterdam and so they had a thing you go. in this little cage kind of in. everybody's glass opens up and they. there's a wheel there's like a lazy. susan in there and it has people and. there's like a man and a woman having. sex and everybody's then you can see. everybody you see everybody else how. about there it would be a mirror to see. awkward that's the mirror you guys.

already like so you realize you go you. got to look right at the cup you can't. be spraying visually and then the crazy. part was everybody else's slides went. down after they were done after yeah. fifteen minutes whatever mine wooden. didn't go down or something so I had. watching the couple who are now dizzy. from the things spin and help each other. it's like when you keeping your kid on a. little their little face with the park. and you let your kid walk away kind of.

drunk one of his ears eyes forty rounds. do you know you've done so much with. music over the years and especially so. much I think with diverse let's get a. question right here this guy actually. looks diverse let's get him in all right. whatever kept here from Toronto dimple. Oh where'd you rather party Trinidad or. Jamaica so good answer that's a tough. one what's he gonna be I'm gonna say.

Trinidad. he's probably trainee looks like he's. from Toronto has a big like Trini vs. Laura but I just had a baby in Trinidad. with my ex-girlfriend and uh well she's. like my no she's an awesome girl and I. haven't seen the baby because I I was. gonna go there in March for a show and. stay there for a month and then I've. been we try to travel man I have to. quarantine in Trinidad and so I would go. to Trinidad I I need to go there as soon. as possible but the city itself Port of. Spain China is like people don't know.

this but it's kind of like this kind of. problem with the wealthiest Caribbean. countries has good surf has this amazing. music culture but it has this crazy. mash-up of like you know European. African Indian just kind of all like. living there and little working in this. crazy music scene of course soca. they have reggae dancehall I used to do. parties there Major Lazer had to show. there every December and it was at this. water park and it was like the crazy. show we'd had like people on shoulders. like water flowing everywhere like crowd.

doing all the different dances together. and I mean turned out of just legend day. and I miss going there to do shows but. um to get a chance to check out Trinidad. man a place for Carnival I think it's. like in the end of February same time. right before Mardi Gras so you can. actually I did a tour last year I did I. did I did um or two years ago I did I. did carnival in Brazil had a show and. sure I went to turned out to see that. see the carnet do a show there and then. went straight to Mardi Gras. and did all the the circuit basically. because it's all around the same right. holiday so what was that vibe like was.

there like that obviously they must have. different from each one percent the the. the the carnival in in Brazil is just. like the Super Bowl I mean there's like. a Samba drum they have their own stadium. just for the carnival floats and it's. just the music is insane it's like the. whole country parties at once it's just. so sexualized and beautiful at the same. time everybody's so [ __ ] happy and. then Mardi Gras we've been in New. Orleans just like just [ __ ] trash. like in the next level. [ __ ] but we had this really awesome.

pop off from one of the other I love it. so much so I'd love I actually went to. see some of the floats a car at Mardi. Gras for the first time cuz I've been. there for parties and I was like Danny's. floats are awesome like all the. different yeah they're really cool it. was such a lower level but I'm like you. see like the black community floats and. like the second line they say the white. people are doing that the things and. they just it's it's like the one thing. everybody's kind of is together yeah on. the side of the roads and seeing. everything and I played a party with a. good friends of mine band called Arcade. Fire you know those guys yeah when. Butler is the the lead band guy and he's.

he also bass low player and he has a. party there called carnival crew and it. was amazing it was like drag queens and. like we had um choppa played with me and. Aleya he DJ there's our Haitian band. playing Haitian music and it was like. just like this really like multi quote. it was like amazing party and just like. the most inclusive party you could have. a New Orleans like there's a lot of that. there that's what that's that place is. kind of anything that's why I'm saying. like the bounciness is gay the city. itself is so DIY like kids go there like.

punk kids a lot of punk bands like in. New Orleans and like punk kids they go. there and they bring in a warehouse. space and they have a little commune and. they build they make their own little. restaurants or whatever and it's like. you don't have myself [ __ ] up I think. Katrina might have done the most work to. preserve the culture of of New Orleans. because right before Katrina happen it. really felt like no one was was destined. to be this big destination and like. people buying property and hotels were. coming in their restaurants and the. Katrina just wiped out all the. investment like in a way and people left.

there's like like 400,000 people in. before Katrina 200,000 left yeah and and. the city had to start over again but. what didn't stop what didn't stop was. that all. cultural movement didn't really end and. it just got bigger and more it's. isolated you know and you might the. isolation in China to build sometimes I. think Isis think New Orleans for me is. is like the my favorite place in the. world to go all over the world cuz it's. a spontaneous and crazy and you don't. know what's gonna happen. yeah I love that I love that well you. know it's so interesting he's talked you. talked about the the investment side of.

it it's funny like you know something. really unique and special can start. somewhere. be it a festival will be it like a vibe. anything but then eventually money comes. in because they want to own it stuff in. the area they want to make it bigger. yeah and then it kind of like it it. weakens stuff over time you know but. it's so funny because if you but if you. didn't have money in the area but then. it's it's funny because it's like we. want money in areas to help to help yeah. but then it's from no money that usually.

really beautifully else can come from. our art comes from like you know. desperation a lot of times so it's so. funny to just have that dichotomy it's. like you need be like when I was young. man Tati given anything to be able to. offer us to have some money for my. mother not to walk her you know to just. to have a little bit of time where we. could have I don't know just felt like. not ashamed of who I was or you know. just I don't know you know what I wish. we'd had some money a little more. comfort yeah but then it's like but you. had to work harder to do what you do. right anything from me like I moved to. Philly to go to university and I had.

like nothing it do temples [ __ ] wild. if you go to visit me it's on us [ __ ]. burger market and see so be more it's. somebody trying to crow to drop off. [ __ ] cocaine form of hate yeah yeah. the drug they did they'd run they run. they run drugs on birds up there I just. would park in the middle of [ __ ]. Street and go do it but if you just go. if you just go temple is like a little. bubble of like you know University but. any outside of that area in North. Philadelphia it just looks like.

Apocalypse Now like it's burned out. buildings and like it's just it's. [ __ ] street by street just crazy. ghetto from like this will be more all. the way like 40 blocks up kind of. endless like and it's it's I worked up. there well it's a temple I ended up. graduating I didn't even graduate. my fourth year I left cause it's like. [ __ ] this [ __ ] school and I just got a. job as a social worker and I worked up. in these high schools up there and I'm.

pretty gangster huh it was [ __ ] up man. I mean like back to the drugs we're. talking about we weren't talking about. job I was talking about. I'm always the kids the kids I was. working with or just so geeked up on. ritalin like they weren't even they. didn't even when the kids could even. read well my kids and they didn't care. it wasn't like let's teach the kid Reid. is like getting rid of and so it doesn't. bother any other kid in school was like. [ __ ] up and these kids are just like. building these the government was. actually building these drug addictions. for these kids from like ten years old. already that's how you put this how you.

this just there was no there's no. there's no idea to fix this [ __ ]. place they lived at and like helped with. their parents who were you know dealing. crack on the side there's never like how. do we fix the situation kid lives and so. I just throw him some drugs so we can. move on yeah that was like the way that. the government in the city dealt with it. and I did that for the one I just. [ __ ] quit Wow honestly I learned a. lot from that was my hardest job I've. ever had was doing that doing that it. was called TSS it was like there's two. to staff support I went to schools with. the kids and like helps like wrote notes.

about the kids and helped him with. whatever he needed and stuff like that. like one on one with a kid for a few. weeks and it was rough to see like that. that I was like literally shadowing this. kid every day helping him doing reports. somebody was doing you know it's funny I. remember growing up like one of the. hardest things was like just the amount. of poverty that there really isn't a lot. of the black community you know and in. the white community too it's just a. little bit different I feel like but I. mean but this there's so much poverty in. in America still like and it's gonna get.

worse and worse for what we have right. now I mean just living in LA you see the. homeless situation how insane that. rolling and to see when you move here. the person I actually take people skid. rotors would be like who were from. Europe like have you ever seen this son. like this because like block by block. and it's like a little community there. and you know a lot people are homeless. in California or like have mental health. problems where they have backs it can't. exists in a normal way and that's like. the last resort for them to survive is. lit be homeless but I've noticed during. this pandemic. there's a lot there's a little I live in.

Hollywood there's like one overpass and. it just keeps growing small little. community there. and the people are younger and younger. Wow and they're not even like maybe they. have mental health problems but their. kids are like the well-put-together you. have like some of this girls like punk. rock girl is that everyday she's up in. like seven putting her mohawk in but she. just lives in this tent because she you. know when it was a stay on water she had. nowhere to go. right right live did the parents or. whatever and I had to leave so I think a. lot of kids we're seeing a lot more of. this poverty situation happening with. young people that never happent before. and I think that's not being addressed.

in LA it's just it's a [ __ ] a lot of. homeless going on here and I think it's. a lot a lot of money or two which is. shocking you know it's really. interesting I mean even hearing you say. about when you were doing the TSS stuff. and and that water bottle might be. uneven on the bottom of it I saw her. fall yeah just gotta wait you too good I. don't know why we did actually have the. whole in spring sponsorship I think cuz. it was poor I think cuz we were giving. up poor water we're gonna do Dasani for. now I invested in core water yeah in the. beginning I made a lot of money out of.

core water I love core water I sold it. dr. pepper and I got dr. pepper stock up. in how do wait a year to sell and I. finally I was like alright no dude dr. pepper was one of the only beverages. when I was growing up there was like. five beverages and one of them was dr. pepper. so like it's interesting cuz throughout. time it's like yeah they try to put. different things into communities it's. like like you were saying they try to uh. you know they'll try to diversify. communities like oh let's bus him kids. from different places. let's but let's try and flood it with um. drugs let's use Oh drugs will be the.

solution you know I think we're starting. to realize over time that or money let's. trust try and pump money and I think. money definitely helps you know uh you. know a lot of people talk about white. privilege and I think a lot about green. privilege I think there is some white. privilege yeah but I don't know if but I. know that money like you go to you look. at a place like Atlanta I was talking on. busi about it and just when you see that. wealth when you go to Atlanta and you. see for the first time remember the. first one went there it was just it. seemed like just like a the place where. the Braves play right and then over time. it's become you see wealthy black people.

and you see oh this is what happens when. a community of people has money they are. they live more I don't want to say. comfortably like in their assets but. comfortably inside of themselves as a. human you know like their you don't see. I mean I think the kid. that I grew up around where it was like. yeah you know kids it just were just you. know some of them didn't have parents. kids like 15 20 years old couldn't even. read you know I mean even even the music. scene I think coming in from Atlanta. recently a lot of these kids you know.

buddy grew up hip-hop you know rappers. came from like the lowest parts of a. city or it was like they had to call. their way out to make music and I think. the last 10 years you have kids from the. suburbs yeah actually you're like. changing the game a little now sex. example he's like I think I'm not gonna. speak on his family I think he might be. a middle-class kid but he's like he had. a opportunity to put his energy in. something that maybe he was gonna be. wrapped right right but it was a little. class yeah I've been able to have that. ability and he changed the game he like. the biggest record of all time actually.

I think that's something that happened. because of you know putting people in a. position where they can have a little. more opportunities because at some point. I'm a firm believer that anybody in. America can honestly make their way up. to to where they can I know that I'm. gonna have a lot more opportunities. being a white guy right my parents put. me in a place that was made it helped. they're my father you know he was dirt. poor he had no opportunities he had a. good at the Vietnam War just to get it. he was like not even have a job just to. get a GI bill to go to college and go to.

college he's like late 20s and he's the. only person to go to college out of like. whole generation his family like hundred. years and he and he made it and like. went to college graduate like in the. like when he's thirty or something and. got a job at a hospital worked his way. up to have a great job at a hospital and. put me to college like gave me the funds. to go to university Central Florida so. he didn't spend that much money but but. I would have never done it I wouldn't I. wouldn't I mean I can get a I can get a. student loan now which I suggest never. doing like to anybody cuz I think it's. the biggest shame there is but I my dad.

was able to do that and I think anyhow. so maybe being white you know in down. south also probably helped him secure a. job in different places like Mississippi. or Alabama but at the same time I think. it's possible for anybody but work it's. different like the road is gonna be a. lot flatter from for me to climb then. it's gonna be for a young black guy who. has to go up you know high but if you're. in the middle class that's you know I. think the the economy doesn't really see. race it's like an algorithm just you. zeroes in number it's these numbers. right you know like I think tech phones.

all these things like that doesn't. like they're not rate inherently racist. our our political social economic system. in America is inherently racist not it's. probably by default because it's been. built that way and you can't you could. you know you can't deconstruct it that. easily but right it takes time it does. take time but I think yeah you said like. money is gonna give people more. experiences that they can that they can. take I mean having disposable income is. you're gonna spend money on music you're. gonna go to concerts and when we're when. the economy is good exit the music scene. grows a lot more and I mean right now.

you're not gonna have a lot of new music. in 2020 because no one's to ring people. are scared put out the records no one's. writing you know spending money at shows. surviving I mean even as you said you. know it's like not a time it's a you. know when people are it hadn't really. been the time really to make maybe new. music yeah you know it's funny yeah I. think you know piggyback on what you're. saying it's like yeah when you're. survive and we have to spend expend. energy surviving you don't it's hard to. fantasize yeah imagine or you dream oh. yeah you know it you can't it's really. hard to do both like me I never had.

opportunity I didn't start making music. Todd was like 20 like really pretty. managing to it was like nineteen twenty. most kids like this starting like Billy. ilex I got eleven twelve you know like I. was as even as a DJ and peppers red. girls like 26 and that's like my grandpa. you know a rapper if you're if you're. not coming out at 16 years old now. you're like yeah your grandma yes who. who's your oldest pug so this is Dada. but I think um I think now kids have. that that opportunity like they have a. little like I said like SoundCloud they.

don't need that they don't need that. [ __ ] the ceiling they can they can. break through yeah you have a good idea. good concepts but right now there's not. a lot of we're like a tick-tock. generation like musics kind of we're. only digesting 15 seconds of songs right. now yeah it's all you have to have that. hook yeah which is not a lot of tick. tock burgers don't don't make artists. though so if I hope is a phase I don't. I'm not mad at tick tock and I've had. I've used my to talk to my advantage. sometimes but I think a lot of the songs. that come out you get this guy has a. song a tick tock that's like human lucky.

examples like might be have like become. a number-one record and still has like. you know 30,000 followers on Instagram. because no one's actually checking for. the artists there right looping this. moment writes about the influencer. that's that's doing it yeah I think tick. tock is just like it's this weird yeah I. don't know if. people become real artists off of there. yeah they don't I think it's a trend. thing but I think hopefully there might. be someone that comes out of it that. you're like oh you know SoundCloud rap. came out I thought it was all kind of. garbage and then X X X X temptation came. out like this guy the real artist came. out of it yeah and like had like like.

kind of put the whole thing on his. shoulder even at 16 I never think it. came out I was like he survived it and. lasted so but all those other rappers I. had like songs out there gone you know. it's like they had like one month people. played records it was hype and then wow. do you feel like cuz you you know you do. I mean you know you really love to. experience different cultures it seems. like and and I mean you talk about it's. at the forefront of your communication. you know like do you feel you know a lot. of people get accused of cultural. appropriation and stuff these days which.

you know it's it's a huge discussion. topic really but I feel do you but. sometimes it's you're more of a liaison. for cultures i 100% I'm a cultural. appropriator I mean I got Big Ben steel. that I think I just don't think there's. anything wrong with it like even if even. just me doing country music I wasn't. like I know I'm starting to doing. [ __ ] Rodya yeah like I was super. boring like I don't belong so it's not. like yeah but like I think anything you.

do culturally like I don't think what. what am I supposed to do like what. defines Mississippi Mike I Florida. muscles like right alligator or you know. just like work Walgreens I don't know. there's not any I don't think anybody. should be defined and if you if you put. rules on culture and music you're. setting yourself up for like. constricting anything any ideas that I. mean like someone just said little no. sex you're not gonna allow to do this. not let him make country music I'm. actually I started doing like more. random music earlier in my career too.

way if I started doing like Major Lazer. now what probably would never flown you. know like or if I did like I look back I. like my video in my bounce video for. express yourself this New Orleans I I. couldn't make a video like that now that. girls twerking I'm like only a white guy. in the video and like I'm DJ am I. getting downtown New Orleans I mean like. I look back and like that was a moment. that couldn't happen now because there's. like rules and regulation to that is. there I think yeah malaise I'm as a. producer I'm just that's always been my. job I've been fascinated by music right. the people that. inspired me something like David Bowie.

you know he did funk he did you know he. did glam he did like folk music his big. estate was like let's dance in the house. Rogers I mean I was like full-on like. the guy did she come in he just ain't no. one ever said like he's you know. culturally appropriating something he. just was an artist writing art is art. yeah and you have to be influenced like. you have to be influenced about things I. mean my favorite Richard Pryor is my. favorite comedian Chris Rock's my second. favorite comedian and my others is guy. named Jerry clower actually was out of. Yazoo City Mississippi up to sing you.

smell his stuff man you've literally. said she was sat here with maybe wonder. [ __ ] once more music I mean I think. with music also we owe a lot like man. like The Clash is might be like my. biggest influence because I start with. punk they did reggae did hip-hop and. they had a record my favorite record of. all time might be watt rock the casbah. was like political was a dance record. it's beautifully done it's produced. really well and if they came out today's. people been like what do you what are. you doing that for you know like what. are you doing but I think that argument. I've been hearing that argument about. culturally appropriate music for like 20.

years I just don't go away people listen. my music if they like it they like it I. hope that my music affects you to where. you want to listen to and you're like oh. I love this I love this country even. with the country stuff I mean Nashville. is not [ __ ] with my country music. sometimes I think you listen to they're. like but if a kid like I'm making it for. that fourteen-year-old kid driving. around like I know he doesn't he doesn't. think about like the rules when I since. I'm using sound like listen to that you. know and in fact he probably doesn't. want to listen I think you should I. think you shouldn't but I think he. should have a lot of education on music. because I am as a DJ I've been in I know.

so much about music I think that's my. only that's the only thing I've done so. I know where I came from I know that um. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for. black music even like black and gay. music when it comes to house records I. know where the roots come from and I. know to show support and love when I can. those people because that's actually my. that's what I can do for those people. who are in the scene like if it's like. I'm a young black DJ I'm gonna [ __ ]. book him over another young white DJ. just because or if it's young woman. because that's something I can do right. and that's actually important if I can. make music and get to a position where I.

can help other people make more music. well that's the best that I mean it. seems like you tell you that with your. label yeah is it but it does get hard to. juggle though doing your own and then. also being a producer does it hard to. get. not really I think that I used to just. always good the example like Beyonce I. always read mark a record for Beyonce. Rihanna and if they wouldn't take it I. make it my record you know I worked to. make it for them because of the two. artists I was like I was constantly you. know they manage like can we hear some. ideas and I would focus on that and then. I would never get the record done for. them but I would just be like hey I made.

this great record that didn't take like. good stories like lean on my biggest. probably record ever made with major. lazer it was written for for Rihanna. originally and the story is I played in. the studio she just was like not a. partner with it and um but blessing. because I owned the Rhett master that. record you know I'm like I made like. shitload of money and the record reached. a lot of people and I was proud of it. and we made a video in India actually. damn we're like stuck with like no money. like say 5,000 and if I met that video. today people would have [ __ ] it would. make canceled you know cause like we're.

just like we're just chilling India had. to show their play for all these kids. like let me just spend the money I made. at the show on the video in the in you. know here and we had the girl came out. and in the video it's actually nice and. awesome you know it's a vibe people are. gonna criticize it I mean you're gonna. get Chris is amol time you're gonna get. haters was so long it's art man it's. hard not to and especially these days I. even worried more about comedy it's like. how can I talk about stuff how can I try. and share you know my truth or share. like you know what my story is or even. what my thoughts are. yeah without being sarcastic his loss.

that sucks for comedy because yeah. sarcasm is a [ __ ] art form right I. think and people don't [ __ ] get they. don't they don't they don't gonna take a. time to like realize it then you get. stuck on like the quotable or whatever. and then you're you get [ __ ] on. something that you don't you're not even. listen to the context of my joke or. whatever and I think that's comedy. should be indifferent to that but it's. never how it how it gets back to that. because yeah it's like my first my first. Netflix special is a lot of his real. tongue in cheek it's almost like a. character you know in a weird way and.

yes some people take it verbatim and. it's like oh you don't see what I'm. doing you can see what's going on here. you know but yes our chasm is really. it's hard you have to be you're gonna. sit goes to your community you have to. give him artistic license I think it was. a fan you should and if something. happens and you in the person in the car. taken out of context dig into it and a. person could defend themselves to I. think it's fair enough but um you should. be careful because you if nothing else I. think cancel culture is pretty. can whack but if nothing else it does. help to take away some of the things.

that shouldn't be done right so but I. think we're gonna survive this and. people gonna like what they like this. something's funny and they know it's you. know at the end of day be a good person. be kind know be informed about things I. think well you know when it comes to D. from the police or black lives matter. things like that I'm gonna talk about. politics in the show but I think if you. get into it and you kind of just read a. little bit you can understand a little. bit more about what these ideas what the. curb is the words themselves are really. scary well yeah you think of me neither. yeah if you stay on Twitter you're just. gonna get in fights but I think if you. you know it made me think you know and I.

see you as a big proponent of it and you. know being out and involved I saw you. and I don't involved in the protests and. stuff when you're on your Instagram and. it makes it's made me think as a person. and then also as a white person what do. I have differences when I look at a. black person do I have you know do I. have different behavior you know just it. started it's definitely made me think. that and that's and that's the best. thing of it yeah home used to make me. think what you know like am i driving.

past impoverished neighborhoods whether. they're black or white or any color it. makes me think like in in thinking oh. man those people don't have anything. right but then thinking well what am i. doing anything in my life to help be a. part of you know the solution like yeah. and even as you said like you were. working as the TSS and you know and then. they tried drugs to help with the kids. and then they try like well let's bus. kids from different areas that'll change. it I think in the end it's human. connection really a hundred percent that. that's good together I think you see. South Africa I was bringing that back up. again these young people like like these.

kids are like like a young black I was. talking to and he's like hi his. girlfriend's white and I'm he didn't. ever he's like never thought it was. weird. but of course his parents and her. parents probably were like scared yeah I. think for them and those are kids are. gonna change the world like those kids. that have this new definition of what it. means to be. oh yeah white a young person you bring a. black hero and I pass the red and like. dad will be like you want me to bounce. pass it like you can't make a funny joke. you're like oh my god I mean my dad and.

parents like they're still but they're. crying I tried root for them but yeah. like honestly what's happened all this. attention on. non-information is turned a lot of like. my nephews and stuff you were like. actually probably borderline racist. about two years ago are a lot smarter. and they live in a diverse neighborhood. like the high schools probably have like. half white but they headed like psych. jail you know like kind of like go you. have to like [ __ ] find or click and. live with it like you know yeah pure. white person go to jail you get to join. are you guys doing a white supremacist. only way to survive I mean it's like.

kind of sucks but it's like that's the. [ __ ] definition we have and I get a. high schooler germ so I think like we. have we had that's gonna be hard to get. past that you know but I think um at the. same time I think my my nephews like I. talked to him a little bit like why do. you write something down on Twitter. because I I was like that's like kind of. concerned about him and then like I kind. of explained to him like not in a. attacking way but I'm like you know. think about things and you know I think. um it helps just like conversate like.

literally it's hard because there's so. much misinformation like honestly cuz we. just it's it's an it's not really in our. face when we see the problems that we. just kind of cover them up so right it's. up to everybody you just gotta learn I. mean yeah you gotta learn and it's but. yeah and I think sometimes I even feel. like attacked as a white person's like. well is it you know some people don't. want to talk about you know equality or. talk about some people also or they just. want to be controlling and they you know. so you have to it's hard to like kind of.

you know it's just it's tough it's a. tough balance because it's just it's. tribal you know that people feel like. this is my tribe I'm white and I have to. fight for this or whatever they don't. realize like that's in black too. yeah same thing if people think and I. think that's what you know we're in this. position you know and when Trump his. whole campaign is like based on division. he doesn't have a campaign stance you. know I'm not gonna endorse anybody but I. think that it's so easy for him to do. that because that that disinformation.

that tribalism is what creates any. energy frame because he has no energy. otherwise he has no stance than anything. is like no peers like no purpose as a. president he's like no I've always seen. as a shady businessman kind of which. sometimes in some aspects of a you know. it's what a lot of America has become. yeah. so I'm not shocked that he's the reason. he doesn't have to he doesn't appear to. have that ability to connect on an. emotional level or under emotionally I. love I love him someone asking like his. favorite Bible chapter he's like I'm not.

gonna answer that I love the whole book. Old Testament have some he's like I love. them equally but looks like he has no. idea do you read they didn't read the. Bible's whole life but dude it's almost. you know it's so funny to talk about. resting earlier everything is turned. really into the WWE it's all about 15. second bit it's all about [ __ ] wiU. though goddamn the racial stereotypes. and how crazy it was but it defined me.

as I learned about everything like I. love them it was like there was like the. [ __ ] there's like sergeant slaughter. there's the junkyard dog. there was the [ __ ] Australian dudes. there was a [ __ ] Chinese guy that. Iranian terrorists but even some thought. it wasn't a good guy he was a bad guy. was like there's no rules it was like. Hulk Hogan became a bad guy for a while. I was like Huckabee where I came that. bird on his chain it was like the most. they just built the stereotype so crazy. as a kid you like learned about learn. about we were like Tatanka that's how a.

lot of us learned about dude the only. Asian you've got be a hero it's a talker. right you probably love your bike yeah. that's my guy I had a hatchet yeah we. come up with a there was no definitions. no good or bad like after a while like. everybody was bad or the good I hit. parts her into a heel if he's there long. enough you become the heel right because. a guy that's like the evil guy totally. they got to spin it around I got one. last question I want to ask you no I'm. just trying to remember what it is in my. head real quick Tatanka. and and I could talk to you forever but. I just you know review dragon steamboat. - oh dude that was the only person that.

I knew Yokozuna came in and he was he. was a sumo guy Iron Sheik Iron Sheik hey. remember he got begun Twitter cuz he. yeah he he did the enemy sometime he had. this amazing Iron Sheik and hacksaw jim. duggan story where they were like on a. coke bender together they got arrested. in like alabama or something and they're. supposed to be like arch rivals like. hacksaw jim duggan like the pro mero. yeah Iron Sheik was like the like. Iranian terrorists and they were like. they've partied together and in the.

animated the story once they got caught. by the police and. get they had to go to jail together and. they got caught like other friends and. it kind of ruin their whole [ __ ]. story do you see the documentary that. Jake this uh you see the jake the snake'. document now I gotta watch that and it's. so good no is he become governor no Jake. is taking his best thing was though. sometimes he had to check the snake and. they would put it down below in the. plane and the cold air would kill the.

snake new snake all the time or. sometimes he'd bring out his bag with a. dead snake in and it just could have. been a emotional support snake nowadays. there's a woman that had a kangaroo on a. plane you had a horse leg reason they. took the horses out those two crazy I. love these and also you can be a [ __ ]. rest and be like 45 and just still be. like a sex symbol yeah I'm either I'm 41. so I need to like figure out my next. move is man and wear those tights man do.

you have the uh you know I look at John. Mayer sometimes fit either and no you. just had to be a [ __ ] man they're not. some real gay relatives to come out oh. there was gold dust oh I didn't even. know gold dust was the gateway he was. like borderline gay don't know but you. didn't even even like a controversial. thing racism I was like no there's no. rules man don't you find how interesting. it is dusty rose son mm-hmm don't you. find it interesting how online people. are one way in in real life they're.

different they're different yeah I mean. I'll also be on lines anonymous you. don't have to be anything you just be. fake people are inherently like racist. is because they want to do that I mean. talk that's what the kind of the online. world kind of sucks yeah cuz you don't. really get a real person out there. anymore you know yeah it's funny cuz you. would argue with someone but if you met. with them and disent I had the same. conversation you would not it probably. wouldn't be an argument also people like. you know they wanna they want to stroke. controversy and they like just they'll. do it for weeks and just to get a little.

hype on things like some guys some other. DJ's right like called me out during. this whole process moment and I'm like I. know the people and I'm like bro you're. gonna get a couple retweets for this and. I'm TM like you know are you gonna dyke. this fourth like not have your. friendship with me anymore for this and. some numbers like you know how to cut. people off sometimes like this. like yeah the gates just to get a little. height be a little retweet is like talk. to me doing a problem you know like. let's do something let's hash it out. yeah yeah yeah let's discuss it and. here's here's post Malone son Gang Gang.

wassup Co what's up Diplo I got a. question for Diplo if you weren't making. electronic music what do you think you'd. be doing like if that just wasn't an. option what do you think you'd be doing. right now. much love guys take care it's funny cuz. I was gonna ask you know Johnny I've. seen him do comedy before yeah. and he's I thought he was extremely. funny for a guy who doesn't get to get. reps like everyone else because and the. reason he says he doesn't is because I. can't get up there at a blank slate.

anymore. it's just they won't it's not how it's. gonna interact with society you know you. people get to get up and practice the. blank slate yeah so and I think he would. have been a great comedian is there is. there something else you like but he. doesn't have enough time it's funny with. life you only get really so much time I. mean he he I saw him once do at the. peppermint lounge with Dave Chapelle as. well as long as we lock your phone up. and I think it was a lot of the stuff. that was on Dave's like we didn't f they. didn't f look special or something like. tears ago yeah yeah so he did a lot of. that a lot of that material and it was. pretty controversial and I think he kept. some about something I get me repeat.

something but he had like Eddie Murphy. there I was like all it was a go and it. was awesome because it was like that was. like a no [ __ ] holes bar like do. whatever he wanted without the phones. cuz you can't really yeah word of mouth. he did some controversial no one cares. write a video of it yeah it's like it's. it's evidence or whatever right clubs. have started doing that lock in your. phone yeah which is kind of I guess it's. kind of the only way to keep keep people. like that's it's your experiences here. you're not gonna take this and go get a. gotcha moment or not comedian or. something yeah but he did with John. Mayer was awesome to be like the mean it.

was very improvised Mitchell I think the. whole thing was improvising that that's. scary to me but they have reports like a. podcast I guess right you just kind of I. mean we wouldn't be very good maybe you. are the person practice a little bit but. uh they had it they had like they had a. chemistry it just works. I think job but I just thought I feel. like John is just a genius and in almost. could have gotten into a couple. different things you know but he got. into music and so that's where his. creativity his his current mood is. awesome though his little TV show you oh. yeah it's great.

Instagram live and he's the first guy to. do before all these before there was. like pornos on Instagram live which took. over he was like had the first poppin. Instagram live and it was really funny. and very clever and he's [ __ ] smart. guy he's really smart guy do you but do. you see but is there something else do. you feel like man if I had a head more. but do you think you could have been you. know you're a great producer do you. think you know an entertainer I'm always. been something else I'm always I'm like. a cultural agitator you know you might. say like cult-like you know whatever it.

is I think that you can go in and read a. lot about what cultural appropriation. means but I was always felt like a. cultural agitator to where I'd like I. went to school the reason I went to. temples cuz I went to school for. anthropology because I was obsessed with. culture like literally I was obsessed. with like what it means to be human. being like what what it isn't to be. creative and what do you what is it what. defines you from who you are to create. what you are and I was obsessed with. like the history of people in like. different places like why do Japanese. people dress like this and where they. make music like this and what's Hindu. religion about and like what does it.

mean to be like you know maybe if what's. it like to be living in Texas and like. work out of cement factory like what is. this like this is what I was always. obsessed with and I went to school for. anthropology and documentary filmmaking. and I was like I really wanted to bring. people and culture to life in an in a. clinic clever way in a new way and I've. worked on some documentaries even made. one a couple years ago before I started. making music about Brazil because I was. like obsessed with like the music there. and the culture and the weirdness of it. it's just [ __ ] weird like yes. Salvador wanted it was wild no cuz that.

place is just defined by it's a [ __ ]. mess there's no it's like it's European. it's Portuguese African it's Japanese. it's like all those things create. something and that's what that's why. I've kind of like always shy away from. like discussing like what it means to. create culture cuz new cultures. mutations and it hurts a movement for. things to be created you have to put two. things together that this shouldn't. belong or better random like you know a. Japanese like the go-to in Sawle Paulo. there's a neighborhood called Liberace. and it's 1 million Japanese Brazilians. live in this neighborhood and you walk. around see like Japanese guy his name.

like you know Miguel Carvalho kawasaki. and you've got like long hair and he's. [ __ ] walk around like a [ __ ] G and. you're like that's not a bad. but that's like that's a real [ __ ]. right that's a thing that's like I'm. like I love that that is this and like. what what's like what's comes from that. and I go what why is there Samba music. or bossa nova and it comes from these. things that just explosions right and. that's what culture is to me and I. always want to be part of that I love. that so you love culture man so even. it's not just the music music just seems. to be the easiest way for people to 2x.

to digest cultures like music because. that's like gonna be your introduction. to country music your inductors are like. African music this the music is it. you're not to read about the history of. Africa to like understand a Nigerian. record it just affects you right that's. why I love music and the idea of culture. but um I would love to work back in film. and documentary yeah that would be cool. if I get older because I mean you know. my days are numbered as a DJ I hope that. I want to be like a 55 year old DJ if I. if I can make it that long I'll do it if. it pays the bills but I'm being at the. end of day I want to I want to age.

gracefully and do more do more things I. think music was one thing I do maybe. it's film and TV next I don't know yeah. hey I want a piece of shop or something. yeah maybe a woodworker I could see that. dude would you um I have to [ __ ] pee. so bad man I have to pee too yeah if you. wanna watch the movie it's it's an hour. it's hour and 25 minutes but it's not. that well done by funded the whole movie. by myself like I would get shows out. really Brazil have a long blast yeah I. would get money from shows and go back. to Brazil and bring a camera and like. shoot you know I've got it with you it's. a guy in Brasilia a new name Leandro is.

a filmmakers I met I worked at this. magazine called colours as a young. provide a job there and I met a bunch of. filmmakers and stuff and I just kept in. touch them before internet you know and. it's like 2007 or something no it says. it was before and I just met some. creative people and I met this guy we. made a movie together and I would never. ever suggest doing something like this. on your own like I just like the biggest. waste of money I made like and having. like the pressure of creating it and. like heaven like be stingy on the budget. like everything I made money-wise I put. like a million for that couple years so.

and yeah you go halfway down the road. you got to get all the way there yeah. yeah yeah me too if we go pee together. there's a difference also azekah oh this. one I want to ask you about so ego so. like you know in the last couple years. I've had a bigger career right and so. you know there are moments where my ego. starts to get big you know and I and I. never always you knew I had maybe some. ego we all have it yeah but I never. really thought like oh well what is you. know like and there's moments where it. started to feel really continued not out.

of control but it grows without my. consciousness of it growing do you ever. have any issues like with that or just. be ever able to see that in your own. like I think I think I think that's. people probably see it more than I do. you know when it comes to ego because. I'm just like I'm not I'm my kind of an. independent person and maybe it affects. other people's lives like they'll let my. friends are my family you know sometimes. they put me in check but for the most. part I mean being humble was where I. think I got where I'm at like you always.

gotta pay dues and just feel feel good. but if you really want to e go check. it's go on Twitter every once awhile. just see what people are talking about. [ __ ] about no break you down pretty. quick I also think I started about four. years ago I did ayahuasca for the first. time and that's a [ __ ] ego deflator. like hardcore yeah I do that and it's. like a drug that kind of puts you like. he might even poop your pants it just. kind of breaks down yeah that whatever. you feel it you become like a Mormon it. naturalizes you in a way ain't it yeah I.

can give you the shame like you're. puking and you're thinking of things and. you don't you just it's it's you're it's. dark and then just bright and you just. you go through a lot of things the best. way to explain it how it helps you is. that you have a messy closet right I. mean when you do ayahuasca it kind of. helps put everything in the drawers so. it you can like understand things a. little better because that's what your. brain probably is like a messy closet. sometimes but I've done that not the two. times I did it it really helped ground. me to where I had another outlook a. little bit and I try to use that message.

now when I you know because it is. important to not have it you go but a. same time he goes back to six nine I got. him where he's at like even if he even. if it's a whole big play he knows he's. using it towards advantage sometimes it. could work it kept good backfire. yeah if you don't have it planned out if. you're not playing chess with it if. you're playing like checkers with it you. could backfire on you but. yeah we had on you know one of my. favorite comedians has got Chris D'Elia. and he would always reference you on his. Instagram called yeah did you ever.

interact with them about that did you. think it was yeah well he was friends. with Dillon Francis early on and I I. think I met him through that and we I. never met him actually but we just. didn't understand enough he was make a. funny or not the beginning but I was. tweeting it I thought it was pretty. funny yeah it's so funny but I was like. I'm not even that special but I guess. I'm like a b-level celebrity picked up I. thought you could put could pick. somebody better or whatever but it it. was kind of cool I got a lot of like a. lot of people always tagged me when he. did that yeah because then I got to be I.

got to go to once I started getting like. nice green room and some of like what am. i Chris D'Elia it made it so it was fun. from paper cuz then I got to do it to. just make fun like make bring him into. it you know be part of his thing from it. but yeah I was just wondering how that. landed on you never I never really bad. we he always come at my Instagram and he. was like dude fucking's he's bizarre. like you know it's really cool about him. it was like real creative you scratch. your head when used to some of the stuff. he does I think Dillon Francis another. DJ was like kind of like borderline. comedy and a DJ which is kind of a cool.

space cuz no one really does that but. Dylan was really acts and his in TV. shows and stuff like that but yeah it's. to to creative man he's like he's like. riff raff sometimes you watch those. videos like what the [ __ ] in the he's. time I even land him to be funny it's. just almost like just it's just. something which is great was a real. creator can kind of not really aim for. like a success but just like a shock. value thing another guy who I love who's. kind of like half comedian half dancer.

is this guy named um [ __ ] to have to. look him up. I always forget his name he's a dancing. guy he is gonna take a second to edit. this out no worries just got cholo fake. creeper that I'll like who's Latino I. was a dark face guy to that he's like. he's like a [ __ ] kind of like dancing. yeah yeah yeah I was sending this thing. to uh. Frankie Frankie King Jonas which i think.

is the best I say if I could have any. last name it would be kinking moon is. this good one yeah it's uh this guy. Casey Frei oh yeah Casey price bro I. mean he first of all he's one of the. sickest dancers ever and he doesn't. really dance that often but his like. some of his comedy is just like so what. the [ __ ] and then the way he integrates. like dance and comedy like I don't think. think he does he doesn't on purpose he. just is like just especially - yeah yeah. yeah I play bass holder come we know. each other just from he's a friend's a.

lot of DJ's and I just love that guy. he's like so he inspires me a lot. he seems really cool people always say. you gotta talk to Casey Freyr you got to. connect to them maybe that's a good vibe. that I need to I think that's everything. that I had man I mean I could keep. talking about stuff but you know I just. wanna yeah thank you for your time and. it's interesting yeah man I do think. it's interesting how like even if I'm. talking you know it makes me want to. know a little bit more about you know. makes women know more about music but it. makes me want to also have a little bit. more respect for like the history of.

music because yeah people don't realize. like that even just like humans like. music comes from like parents yeah you. know like music like each sound has like. a couple of parents you know and. grandparents and then I mean I think you. do the same thing with that I do with. comedy like you know the history like. you said some of your favorite comedian. oh yeah I think I think it like that you. know what you're you're gonna be you. know you're you're the comedy of right. now so you have to take all the things. that happen before you understand that. twist it up and then know how far you.

can push things and I heard Kevin Hart. say at once like he has a black comedian. he always like he's gonna push it. further than he'd been and then there's. gonna be someone at five years gonna. push it further than him it's like their. job. his ideas just blaze a trail I think you. it's gonna be the same thing like you. know the history you're gonna push it as. the character that you are and the. person you are and I think it's a little. bit difficult now cuz you have to walk a. tighter line with almost like the. challenge part of me said last week I. was like you know two weeks ago I was. scared yeah and then last week I was. like you know what this is what it is.

you know and I think that I can do it. it's gonna make people be a little bit. tighter about what they do almost when. you have a set of rules and it sounds. [ __ ] up cuz we're just talking about. how there should be no rules or anything. but it also can create something special. I'm gonna be really boring metaphor you. probably edit this out but I was a film. school and I went to a class a class. called Iranian Iranian cinema but um. Iran has this amazing film industry in.

the 90s and there's a director called. Abbas Kiarostami and he made a record. movie called like water water for some. about chocolate water for chocolate. something like something for Chow maybe. look at the film cuz I don't wanna. [ __ ] butcher water from chocolate but. he is a famous director because in Iran. it's such a Muslim country in the rules. to make a film I can't show any women. without the hair mask you have to talk. about God in certain ways there's like. all these [ __ ] rules these guys made. these films where it's like such an. arrow a lion like a walk and they always. win like war it's worldwide for these. films they make this guy especially.

because it's just like he made a lot of. films but I think he having those rules. and having no I have to work inside that. came something really hit the push even. harder to get that creative juice in. people to know you're talking about him. make a message happen so yeah cuz the. rules it was almost like when the. teacher or if the government whatever it. is it tells you okay this these are the. rules it's there's something then inside. of you that's like okay okay I see your. rules yeah I'm gonna play by the rules. but watch what I'm yeah yeah final.

loophole or something yeah man that's. fair it's pretty fascinating. Thomas Leslie thank you so much for. being here do you like Diplo do you like. tells you my real name is actually. Thomas Wesley pence but just like I put. the Thomas West in my first middle name. because a lot of country guys have two. first names kind of but yeah the West is. my real name people call me Wesley do. you feel like uh do you feel like you. are still Diplo do you feel like it's. been like like you're a snake or. something ever that said it's and do you. feel like it's just something that I. mean people people when they swim with.

fans see me now they go Thomas they just. read my Wikipedia page whatever they. don't want they don't wanna say Diplo. it's also not very cool name but it's. like you know it's it's more tried. almost rival yeah there's no weird way I. kind of it isn't it never had really got. define reason to be called that but I. you know whatever it worked it worked. for me and I did a lot of different. music but at this point I have so many. different little bags like I dude like. Thomas Wesley who did like. I did this thing called Silk City with. Mark Ronson did think all LSD with a SIA.

and labyrinth and it was like. psychedelic project so I'm just like. fascinated with like you can do things. you can many different things and you. can be different people and that's kind. of like though it throws you into a. tussle if you kind of want to bring out. the cultural whatever I could do. whatever so you can't really enough I. know. no group can be mad at me for too long. so I'm gonna next thing but something. figure out what they're mad about it's. interesting the cultures that are kind. of within us even within hours here. within our types of thought you know. like sometimes were not even recognized. that repeated thoughts that we have. inside of us or even take on a culture.

of our own and if we're afraid to act on. those or we like kind of putting a damn. on like some ability of our own. creativity and stuff art is like man. that's the one theme and a boxes like. he's just you're keeping yourself from. so many experiences that could happen. you know yeah it's always about being. like opening yourself up a little bit. and you know it's all about just being a. nice good person being kind having. empathy and create but Korea you know do. things responsibly it's not that hard. you can [ __ ] up.

also you can [ __ ] up and [ __ ] fix it. and say ah [ __ ] yeah you can say you can. [ __ ] up I mean look at people always. talk about on xxx sensation I brought. them up a lot in this conversation I. know if you knows music that well but he. had a terrible as a rapper that um ya. know if just if his death and he had a. terrible history with women and violence. and women and um a lot of people you. know brought him off for that and and I. feel like they if they want to they. can't have the rights do that but he. affects a lot of people's lives where. they just let his music really touch. people in a way that rap hasn't done. that a long time and people like have.

records that had this like Kurt Cobain. feeling which is really in raw and that. people effected that way like go peep to. the same thing. and I think it's okay for him to work at. himself and be better and I think the. music like I said musics about feeling. the music is something that doesn't have. to have history sometimes right a lot. people die me and you can also define. like Michael Jackson take him off the. radio some people say like that I mean. do what you want I'm not gonna take. Michael Jackson off my myotubes I'm not. gonna stop playing his records if you. don't give people the ability to like.

recognize or learn yeah or evolve or. anything some people show me such a king. everybody should be defined by their. history look a good example like Malcolm. X you know if he had wrote him off like. you know beating women and going to. prison and doing things and with the. prison changes life and became a great. leader and an amazing you know. philosopher in a way so the people have. a lot to offer yeah I think you need to. define like what is it that's not right. and let them know that and like let them.

change and hopefully that makes it. better for other people yeah cuz cancel. culture it's easy to take down. celebrities but you're not taking down. the guy next to you at a bus whatever. that's actually doing damage or like. verbally abusing or a woman that's you. know right so we have to we have to find. the way so it changed those things like. where it words words normalized for. people in everyday culture like in a. frat or whatever it is that's gonna be. the ones to change the world not the not. just like yeah somebody you got your. moment on a it's on a Twitter or.

something but yeah yeah I agree man it's. it's definitely disheartening to see. like some of the some of that culture. you know uh but yeah but it's but to. take it into our regular lives you know. you need to recognize okay well first of. all what are my own behaviors that I. could be you know like even going back. to the black lives matter movement and. and just seeing a lot of that going on. you know like it just made me think like. okay well what let me I'm really ask. myself you know if I if I'm talking to a. black person do I have different. acting's in the back of my head yeah. while I'm talking with them you know or.

if I'm if I'm with one of my black. friends a Mamba hate you know like just. little things which some of it's okay. some of it's just nature and it's gonna. be but just make sure just to check. myself to see what's going on you know. and and we have to we have to allow. spaces where people can do that I mean. in P their life's about learning and. changing I mean if we want to say it so. no one can change [ __ ] we're not we're. [ __ ] who [ __ ] cuz that's we got to. change anybody's that change and and. that's okay. okay to do better yeah yeah it's okay to.

do better. Thomas Wesley thanks so much for being. here man yeah but next country. [Music]. [Music]. [Music].

little time for me to set that parking. brake. Oh. [Music]. [Music]. [Music].