Dana White | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #470

today's guest is an entrepreneur he's a. renegade he's a business moggle and he. is the head of the. UFC um he's from Massachusetts and I. couldn't be more excited to go a couple. rounds with someone uh today's guest is. Mr Dana. [Music]. White I'll sit and tell you my. stories.

shine on. me and I will find a song. [Applause]. I do you feel handsomer as you've gotten. more in. shape you you guys got to deal with. Celsius yeah it's pretty good yeah it's. awesome man so um it's good man we've. had a really great year we've um it's. been fascinating man all types of just.

interesting people rappers Robert F. Kennedy um we just had Wayne. Gretzky um I don't know who else we. gotta do Trump yeah we get closer I'll. get you Trump if you want to do them. yeah well we had sexy red on and she's. from the hood right she has some pretty. ratchet stuff she sings about like her. vagina stuff but people love her right. that's her yeah sexy red is wild she. yeah uh and she is actually pregnant as. well the best part of it was that the.

end I was like Hey I'm going to invite. you to UFC fight sometimes she's like. I'd love to go that would be awesome so. the hood would really show up for that. what did you think about slap well it's. a great question brother um first of all. I didn't know I didn't know what being. there makes it you're like oh my God. this is amazing I like how it's bite. siiz in the way that if you want to like. hang out with friends and chat you can. be talking to your buddy and you know. exactly when the action is going to. happen.

so where UFC you don't want. to good so I loved how it was like very. diges like okay it's like hold on dude. chill let's focus this is it um I like. the people that were there I thought was. really interesting I can't tell when I'm. there there's moments where I'm. supporting and then there's moments. where I'm heckling almost right there's. respect for sure but I could like I. don't know it was weird like cow like. cowboy Cerrone is there and he's like. knock him out them slides like one guys.

wearing sandals you know so I think. there's a little bit of a peanut gallery. aspect there is um but there is at UFC. too though I mean there there's a lot of. lot of yelling and [ __ ] talking at UFC I. think UFC has become a lot more. sophisticated over the like the last 10. years yeah but before that it was was it. really quite a slap crowd yeah oh well. dude I remember when I first heard about. UFC it was like the kids who were not. going to finish School were watching it.

right it was like they had a VHS it. would like come in the mail that dude. exactly yeah dude that dude yeah that. dude talk about a guy that's become. famous just off [ __ ] one picture of. sitting in the crowd um just bleed he. works with blood drives now too which is. crazy huh no are you serious no I'm not. but that would be yeah but that would be. actually it's not a bad partnership dude. I'd [ __ ] I'd pour a 12 oz O Negative. for that guy if you asked me to that an. animal tell you something fascinating.

about the slap content so there's a. there's a woman named Amy Kaplan and. she's she's a media member right and I. don't know who she writes for but she. comes to everything UFC slap she. supports whatever right so when she. showed up to slap on um on Wednesday she. had 20 followers on Tik Tok so she. posted the the the the video of Sheena. the women's one knocking her out right. now it's at 1.6 million views and she. has 36 00 followers off one post from.

slab how crazy is that this is the one. right here yeah you should you should. have cut that up and put it out that's. all all the all the influencers that. come they love it because the content's. so powerful. oh listen to me if you take the NFL the. NBA Major League Baseball the NHL UFC. WWE NASCAR Formula 1 PGA and a couple. other ones you combine all their numbers. together on social multiply them by four. they don't do what power slap does no.

way [ __ ] fact and when when you post. this content it is unbelievably powerful. man yeah other things that I thought. really about it I liked how I wish I. knew some of the fighters better I know. some of that takes time and get you know. him right 100% this is only our fifth. ever event it's been around for eight. months and yeah no this thing's a. [ __ ] Juggernaut though man but I dug. it dude I'm sitting there with my buddy. Sheldon Sor and uh we're like holy [ __ ]. dude this is so much fun fun like I I.

was like I was excited to come back it. it I'm not going to say it surprised me. but it did when the guy like almost got. a haircut off of his yeah he has that. beard you don't even know if he has a. chin you're like what if that dude. doesn't even have a chin and he's just. [ __ ] out here that's one of the. things we've been talking about you know. it's some of these beards are so big. tell where the hell their face is I I. agree that's hilarious but I kind of. love that aspect of it it's a little bit. of camouflage dude where some guy rolls. out there with a naked chin some little. [ __ ] nudist you know you're like this.

guy's got to calm down this pervert puts. him grow a beard man did you did you. make it up to Red Rock after no I didn't. it was [ __ ] Mayhem up there yeah we. go to the high limit room after and big. party up there at Red Rock after the. thing and everybody's gambling and all. this [ __ ] but we had done this thing we. did a sweep Stakes where somebody would. get the opportunity to come and and. gamble with me and Steve will do it. right so we sit down at the table you. couldn't [ __ ] write this you couldn't. write this sit down at the table I give.

the guy five grand we start gambling and. he just leaves with it we start gambling. and uh me me and Hunter were just. talking about Hunter was his coach. Hunter was kind of coaching him over. there on the side and Hunter said the. guy was so nervous he's like you know at. one point he got up to what Hunter eight. grand wow he was up to $8,000 he had won. he was in the [ __ ] perfect seat at. the table up to eight grand he's up to. nine grand now and and and I said listen.

you don't have to stay here you can you. can leave whenever you want whatever. he's asking Hunter questions Hunter's. like Dana doesn't care if you want to. leave you you can quit when you want to. so he says okay this is my last bet then. Win Lose or Draw this is my last bet he. puts it up Steve will do it throws a. thousand up on it underneath the guy put. up like four or 500 Steve puts a. thousand under it he hits a [ __ ]. Blackjack and wins I mean you couldn't. write a better [ __ ] story than that. so the kid leaves there with almost 10. G's and uh you know won the sweep Stakes.

come gamble with us and actually got the. experience slap got to go to the party. after and actually won 10 grand and win. wow yeah that's incredible I love doing. fun [ __ ] like that yeah dude you know. what you do a great job of that I'll say. like I tune like and even now just being. in the facility and seeing like the. kitchen where you guys shoot the uh [ __ ]. it Fridays and stuff I'm like man that's. pretty brave were you concerned about it. at all at first like just putting. yourself out there like that because I. think there's always this wall between. like is it you know when people step. into like putting themselves out in a. social media yeah no I I don't care I've.

been doing it for so long I mean uh I. mean I was doing these video blogs. before this whole influencing thing was. a thing you know what I mean I used to. do video blogs on YouTube they would. follow us around in the plane going to. events and all the behind the scenes. type stuff so I I've been doing this for. a long time it doesn't bother me yeah. what um what kind of tunes do you listen. to what kind of music do you listen to. I'm into I'm into. so many different types of music I like.

uh I mean my my all-time favorite bands. are Rage Against the Machine the Beasty. Boys and the Red Hot Chili Peppers um. but I listen to Everything I listen to. 80s music listen to 70s music I listen. to uh rap I listen to you remember your. first concert you ever went to first. concert I ever went to is kind of weird. it was Berlin I went to Berlin it's a. band yeah oh yeah familiar with them. okay no more words you know oh yeah wait. no more words play A Beat of it.

no more words no more words I'm thinking. of More Than Words I'm actually going to. the cult tonight Cults in town I'm going. to the cult and they're British huh yeah. oh. yeah you know the. C yeah kind of you know who I. [Music]. know who'd you go with I okay I get a. little bit of an energy now for what's. going on there will you stop it was. Michael bising the D you know he used to. be a DJ I didn't know that dude he has a.

great story about uh somebody um stole. his records one night isn't this right. is Michael bisbing somebody stole his. records right he's the [ __ ] DJ right. like the last guy you want to steal from. right some one guy some oneeyed [ __ ]. you know Music Maniac running Skrillex. you know so he [ __ ] F he F he finds. out who the dude is right the guy denies. it he pops the trunk and the records are. in the [ __ ] tr dude and I think he.

put the dude in the trunk did he really. I think that's how it ended but yeah uh. anyway he was a DJ but um no I wasn't. familiar with them my first I I I did. see Duran Duran recently though I did. too they were great yeah I thought it. was pretty good man they were great yeah. I I was very impressed with how good. they were I love live music so I go to. lots of concerts there's this there's. this kid so funny you say the cult I'm. going to the cult tonight I see the cult. all the time big cult fan too cult's one. of my favorite fans of all time so I uh.

I I I go to the cult and some band. called Dez rocks is is opening for him I. never heard of them and uh so I said ah. let's just go walk around we'll come. back later I come back and they have a. couple songs left I was Blown Away. really by how good they were Rock I was. so blown away that I jumped on on a. plane the next day and saw him again in. San Diego yeah and I saw him in Utah now. most of the music that you see for UFC. and power slab is Dez rocks no way when. do the commercials like the commercials.

and all the hype pieces I use his music. oh it's amazing man yeah he's he's. incredible he's playing the trador in La. uh next Sunday oh sweet I think I'll be. out there then let's go you're gonna go. I'm gonna fly in for it you are yeah you. want to go yeah I have to go now but. yeah I'll go [ __ ] yeah let's do it um. yeah I'll go and uh I'm going I think. you guys are going to the Motocross on. Sunday yeah no uh with John shahii are. you guys doing that thing I'm doing. Nitro Circus I'm Nitro Circus tomorrow.

I'm going to go oh it's tomorrow it's. tomorrow in Anaheim yeah yeah I actually. I'm meeting Trump tomorrow morning for. breakfast on his plane wow his plane is. landing here we're gonna have breakfast. on his plane then I'm jumping on our. plane and going to uh to Nitro Circus oh. that's going to be fun yeah I wanted to. be over there what does Trump have for. breakfast you think have you had. breakfast I'll tell you tomorrow okay. okay tell you tomorrow all right what uh. what would your walkout song Be You. think if you were a fighter oh [ __ ].

there's so many good ones to choose from. I sort of lived vicariously through the. through the athletes over the last you. know however many years cuz I picked a. lot of the songs for a lot of these guys. to walk out to yeah do some of them just. not want to pick it some of them don't. even give a [ __ ] what could care less. like they could die they're not even. going to know what music's on the way. there nope oh damn yeah most most of. them didn't even care in the early days. and yeah you can't die on it with. Hillary Duff when you're going to the. [ __ ] War yeah no most of the music. that that was picked back in the day was.

done by me and um but the but the. walkout song's important it's a big deal. it's one of the things that if if you're. not a big star already and the song. comes on and people connect with the. song and like it they're like oh who is. this guy it's a big deal yeah Bobby. green I think does it pretty well I. noticed he'll kind of change his up and. he brings so much energy you know but I. think you can feel his energy when he's. coming in uh porier has that James. Brown you know some of these Fighters. come up with songs that I would never. dream of could be a cool. walk-in song and yeah the walk-in song.

is is a fun but very important part of. the the live event yeah I think so man I. want to yeah and I want to say too man. just your bravery and doing and keeping. things going during the pandemic it. changed everything it gave a lot of. people a feeling like that there was. still somebody that could do something. different it gave a lot of people a. feeling that like um Everybody wasn't. subject to uh kind of like the. privatized tyranny that's kind of gone. on yeah you know and um I agree with you.

and man it made it made me so much more. of an involved fan dude that's awesome. well I appreciate it it listen the. pandemic never made sense to me and and. again because of my close relationship. with Abu Dhabi you know I knew over. there they they were doing testing and. they were doing all this stuff I'm like. if they can do it why can't we do it. over here yeah and why couldn't we. create you know this space you know they. ended up calling them the bubble but. this space where you know everybody was. tested you knew everybody was clean and. we couldn't put on an event we did it in.

Jacksonville we did it in Abu Dhabi and. you know I'm one of these guys I love. this country I I I love America uh this. country's obviously been very good to me. my family and uh a lot of my friends and. employees we don't just [ __ ] roll. over and hide in this country man this. whole pussification of America and. everybody you know [ __ ] scared of. everything and whatever I was like if. this is as bad as they think it is. or they're saying it is [ __ ] dead.

anyway yeah we're going to die you don't. want to die yeah just wearing a mask. they can't even see your face yeah dying. a mask hiding in your house oh hell no. so what do you think your walkout song. would be look can it just be the cult. sure I do the cult I do the cult uh I do. the cult sheel. Sanctuary um or listen you know when you. can never go wrong with the walkout song. ACDC yeah you never go wrong with. ACDC I'm trying to think of an ACDC song. I'm a little bit Back in Black yeah back.

for those about the rock For Those About. to Rock oh that's the [ __ ] my brother. used to beat the [ __ ] out of need all. that music exactly some good ass. whooping music oh I still I have a. floating rib that was originally not. floating uh because of half of aliceon. Chain's second. album. CH ohud G and chaines fan bro we would. lose bro one time I go over to Perry. frell's house right I relapsed first of. all I relap laughs at a one-year-olds. birthday party so obviously I've had.

some tough times but um I A friend of. mine who's in jail now I think but at. the time he had a child a friend of mine. had a party at Perry frell's house CU he. had a nice home and it was a. one-year-old birthday and I go in and I. didn't know who Perry farell was I'd. listen to him you know I just couldn't. recognize him right and then I'm just. there's this dude kind of just mumbling. around by this big bookcase and I go. over there I'm [ __ ] talking to the. dude about these different books and. ended up being him anyway the story is. anticlimactic but yeah I met him at a.

one-year-old birthday party and neither. one of us knew the child which I think. also made it weird and we talked about. that a. little it's weird to be at a really. small kid's birthday and pretend that. that he's bigger or something right you. know um what is that Nick chenade oh. that's chenade yeah yeah yeah that that. that's that that's a good one you know. it was fascinating too because a big. chenade big chenade fan and uh I. actually didn't go to my high School. 10-year reunion because sheno Conor was.

playing at the Hard Rock I went to see. sheno Connor instead and um then to meet. her and go through this whole thing with. Connor and she was such a incredible. performer and had such a great voice and. I think this kind of goes to what you. were talking about about putting. yourself out there you know she ripped. up that picture of the Pope on Saturday. Night Live that night and she got. [ __ ] just attacked by everybody I. mean everybody just started coming after. her and she got beat on for so long that.

she actually got to the point where she. would have terrible anxiety when she. would go out and try to perform wow so. leading up to that Connor walk out it. was uh we didn't know if it was going to. happen or not happen live even though. she was there and we had done the deal. with her to come but um yeah I adored. her she was a really good person I liked. her a lot and uh sad to see her go but I. was a huge nade fan did you like give.

her a pep talk before is there any kind. of communication like that 100% I. absolutely did yeah I can imagine I can. totally relate to what you're saying is. if if the you think the media especially. or people some people are on your side. and how they would be so scary. especially if you're a singer to go out. there yeah it's it's listen when when. you're out in the public and whatever. the thing is with me is I don't give a. [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] give a [ __ ]. what anybody says or what anybody thinks. I have this mindset I know exactly who. the [ __ ] I am I have my circle of people.

that I hang around with who know me and. know what I'm about and whatever and uh. anybody else who doesn't like it or. doesn't want to too [ __ ]. bad okay were you always like that do. you think always like that wow I was. always like that CU that's the part that. I think these days it gets a little bit. harder to create like I mean I I I work. for myself right and so um it's nice to. have your own space where you don't have. to answer anybody you have to answer to. advertisers sometimes but at this point. you can also sell direct to Consumers.

you can say [ __ ] card advertisers if. you need to I will never ever answer to. a [ __ ] Advertiser never yeah I've. been through it yeah believe me yeah. listen this is really easy [ __ ]. solution pay me what you owe me and you. go your way and I'll go mine pretty easy. [ __ ] Solution that's it yeah yeah. don't you can't ever let these these. [ __ ] people hold you hostage or to. you know try to change who you are or.

what you stand for or um try to try to. uh determine how you're going to run. your business yeah [ __ ] that [ __ ] do you. think that that is becoming more the. common place or that it got to be the. common place and now we're getting out. of that I think it it needs to be the. common place you. cannot you cannot be held hostage by. advertisers I mean uh Dave Chappelle has. this great um. comedy thing that he was doing and he.

says uh you know everybody asked me why. I don't have a tennis shoe and you know. I've been offered tennis shoe deals you. know I don't have a tennis shoe because. as soon as you do something they don't. like they take the tennis shoe away you. it's gone and all that [ __ ] and you know. what I mean he's right yeah that's why I. don't [ __ ] with Hollywood a lot man I. don't do a lot of [ __ ] they say come do. this come be in the movie The guy calls. me [ __ ] Ricky Furley or whatever. calls me hey you want to be in the you. know dopesick 11 or whatever the [ __ ]. movie is I don't give a dude no I don't.

want to [ __ ] I don't want if they I. don't want them to be able to write an. article to be say hey we took this away. from this guy because he said this yeah. I don't [ __ ] need any of that [ __ ]. 100% and they only came to ask me once I. started doing my own thing anyway so. [ __ ] them sorry man I'm obviously angry. about that but um but thanks for some of. the yeah you're not wrong you're right. yeah there's a lot of that energy in the. world that way it's got to be 100% man. you let these people come in and and and. you know these people are paying to be a. partner with you to to to put their.

logos with you and be with you until. something go you find out who's with you. and who's not when the [ __ ] hits the fan. yeah you know what I mean I say this all. the time it happened with me and my my. employees during coid right during Co. they're laying people off and whatever. we didn't [ __ ] lay anybody. off didn't you didn't you negate some of. your salary or something what did you. guys do no I said I would but okay I. said we're going to go through this. we're not laying anybody off we're going. through this yeah and um you know every. Christmas party I get up on stage and. tell my [ __ ] team how much I love.

them and how important they are to me. and then the scariest Time In Our. Lifetime uh hits and I'm like hey yeah I. love you guys so much I'm G to [ __ ]. lay you off some of you have been with. me 10 15 20 years th I'm one of these. guys the whole [ __ ] ship goes down. together or not at all we're all [ __ ]. sinking me included or we don't at all. you know and and uh you know that. doesn't exist in in this world that we. live in today everybody's just so so. easy to pull the trigger and let go of.

some of their people and no it's. something good I need to hear that too. you know I'm just as my business grows. I'm become more of a boss I never wanted. to be a boss how how do you do this how. do you do this without these two I don't. right but I yeah and now that you said. how Christmas how do these two do this. appreciate without you right you're a. [ __ ] team I think we've realized that. more this year I think but it's become a. Learning lesson for me as a ball you. know it's like you think like I need to. just hold on but you really need to let. go and let others help you're a you're a. team you what you do is when you run a.

successful [ __ ] business you do it by. building a really good team around you. you know and uh I I have you're Lu you. have a lot of great employees man I got. the best team in the world man 350. unfuckingbelievable people when I said. we're [ __ ] storm of the beach we're. going definitely dude nobody [ __ ]. said no there is no experience man when. I go to the UFC fights it's like the. whether it's the assistants or your. directors or um the guys who are opening.

the cage door you look over and there's. like some hero years there's David Spade. or there's Mel Gibson or there's Joe. burrow it's like you have all of just. like and it just feels like you're in. this fun [ __ ] family that's a little. bit mentally unhinged right I'm not GNA. say that okay no you're not wrong yeah. this yeah this family's had some [ __ ]. domestic disputes all right but they uh. but it just dude it feels so much fun.

when I leave the event I miss that I. miss the people that you work with just. as much as I miss the action that's. awesome I I I love hearing that and and. thank you and and you're not the first. one to tell me that everybody tells me. that anybody who interacts with anyone. on my team and and everybody here is is. smart hardworking the best at what they. do and there's no none of that [ __ ]. you know at the office where there's all. this backstabbing and [ __ ] all this. [ __ ] those type of people we get rid.

of immediately yeah you you you don't. last here being that kind of a person. this is a team this is a family and uh. we throw parties here all the time for. all of our employees we we throw. different types of parties like parties. for the for the employees where they can. bring their their spouse or their wife. or whatever then we throw parties where. you can bring your kids because we want. their kids to come and see the place. where their parents work and they want. them to feel you know your parents are. gone at work all the time we want the. kids to look at where they go to work as. a fun place as as a place that's that.

that's cool oh Mom and Dad are at work. we love going to their work yeah you. know what I mean oh [ __ ] start a 37. PB weight class dude you know what I'm. saying yeah I mean that's that's out of. line because that's children fighting. but um was it hard for you to learn to. be a boss as your business crew like. what was some of the cuz man even you. just saying this in front of us man it's. important for us to hear because I I I. need to do a better job of it you know. and some of that is just stuff I'm. learning as my business has grown and my. responsibilities and not feeling like I. need to really try to do everything.

myself you know I can be a better uh. boss and employ and and cooworker a lot. of times um it's just powerful you're. saying that in front of us delegating. it's and respecting. people's ability to do stuff sometimes. I'm just I was always so used to doing. things myself growing up 100% you no I. get listen I'm still as successful as. this thing has been and all the stuff. that we do I get here every day at 9:00. and and I'm one of the last guys leave. this building every night still um was.

it hard to learn to be a boss like how. did you like have like a role model with. that or did you well I I I had my own. business before this but you know I. obviously wasn't the difference the only. difference in in coming to the UFC was. you. know the size you know being a global. company and obviously the finance side I. mean you know I went from dealing with. hundreds of thousands of dollars to deal. in with hundreds of millions of dollars. so that that's the the difference um but.

you know Finance is not my [ __ ] thing. we have a very strong Finance team and. you know one of the things I hated the. most in in being in this business was. [ __ ] budget meetings man yeah we used. to be in budget meetings you know when. we were getting murdered and we were. losing money we were in budget meetings. for [ __ ] it felt like days and uh. that was the only not fun part of the. business for me and uh now where we are. now I only do the fun [ __ ] I only do the. [ __ ] that I really love to do and and I.

stay completely focused on which is. making sure the production the live and. in house production is [ __ ] perfect. um uh finding new. Talent uh putting on the best fights we. can possibly put on and start building. those are those are the things that I. really focus on um so more more. marketing I don't [ __ ] with finances at. all yeah good yeah I mean just because. you like to gamble you know know and. because [ __ ] I I do too man so you.

know I [ __ ] I'm on some site now I. can't even get my money out of the. [ __ ] thing like Jesus dude online. gaming is is a little is a little it's a. little strange isn't it I respect them. and we're happy that they advertise but. it's also it's a little obtuse sometimes. I'm an old school Brick and Mortar uh. you know sit at the table and play kind. of guy oh yeah I'd rather not be able to. pay my tab and have two [ __ ] Italians. beat the [ __ ] out of me you. know cuz at least it [ __ ] evens out. you know at least in the morning I wake.

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free 60-day trial that's shipstation.com. code Theo make ship happen is it hard. for you guys to pick sponsors I know you. guys have a new sponsorship you guys. have new sponsorship with Bud Light. right yep but is it do people like do. companies come and do like shark tank. for you kind of to present the brand. yeah kind of so um you know the UFC is. at a point now where you know guys come. to us and and and want to pitch their.

their brands or whatever it is to to uh. advertise with us. and recently you know I I've become very. involved in the uh on the sponsorship. side so you know I I meet with these. guys and and uh you know I just did a an. interview the other day with with the. media at the scrummed lap and it's just. I'm at a point now where in my life in. my career I want to be with people that. I'm aligned with people that you know. yeah it's it's not it's not just about.

the money it is about the money because. it's a sponsorship deal but it's not. just the money not going to go for not. going to take a a bigger offer if it. isn't something that I am aligned with. and don't 100% believe in [ __ ] yeah dude. good for you it's nice to be in that. space you know and I bet we can probably. all be there but I think some of it's. fear but um yeah I had a business guy. you're just talking about this were. y'all about in life you have to have no. fear you have to have no fear you have.

to you have to believe in who you are. and what you do and just go [ __ ] get. it yeah don't be afraid to tell somebody. no [ __ ] water guy wants to you know. wants to do a deal with you and the. money looks good but there's certain. things about that you're not into [ __ ]. them [ __ ] don't do it the right thing. there will be another one exactly and. and somebody that you're more aligned. with when you look at at these type of. things no different than a relationship. if you're going to get into a. relationship with somebody right imagine.

if you had to had to drop a contract. yeah with some woman Aqua he say we're. gonna no some woman we're going to be in. a relationship six years yeah oh yeah. you got to you you you have to be. aligned and you have to it has to be. somebody that you can be in a. relationship with for six years yeah you. don't want to be three years in and be. like Oh I'm still drinking Rhonda you. know or or you don't you don't want to. be three years in and be like Oh I'm. still drinking Britney you well what. happens too is I didn't mean to say. Rhonda so cuz I know she's a fighter.

here I just don't want there to be any. weird energy okay there won't be anyway. good Ronda was amazing actually one of. the greatest one your favor I know. that's what Nicole said she said that. all time she named somebody else. favorites but go on I'm sorry um I. [ __ ] this up [ __ ] man sorry no you you. you don't want to be in a relationship. with for a long time the co thing it's. like you know you you think you're in. this business with with uh you know. whatever uh product it is is and the. [ __ ] hits the fan like that that's when.

you find out who everybody really is. including some of your sponsors oh yeah. do you know what I mean so you get you. know you're in the the sponsorship deal. and the phone's ringing every day you're. picking it up and and and you know they. don't like that you're doing this they. don't like that you're going through. coid this is irresponsible you man get. the [ __ ] out of here get the [ __ ] out of. here you know what I mean you just it's. just when you do a sponsorship deal with. somebody you have to look deep into who. they are and you know who's running the.

company who's making the decisions and. are you aligned yeah I love that man. yeah because we had Robert Kennedy Jr on. and we had a company call or a couple. companies call after that and say yeah. just stuff about him we're not. advertising on this episode my. advertisers like you guys need to take. the episode Down you know and uh and and. we ended up and what's wrong with him. nothing nothing guy's [ __ ] brilliant. are smart [ __ ] for seven years great. guy I mean a neat man right I I've never.

met him yeah I've only watched his stuff. and and you got this whole Democrat. Republican [ __ ] all this crazy. [ __ ] he's a [ __ ] Democrat yeah. right but now they hate him just because. he doesn't believe like he's a Democrat. with common sense right yeah right he's. like an old school Democrat yeah and. smart guy whatever let me tell you this. let me [ __ ] tell you this. this is. America you can [ __ ] have whoever you.

want on your podcast you can do whatever. the [ __ ] you want to do imagine a. sponsor that's sponsoring you calling. you and telling you that you can't have. this guy what sponsor did it. um I let me think and I'm not afraid to. name him I don't know if I remember I. really don't right I don't know if I. believe you but okay that's fair um but. I really don't know if I remember. imagine and this happened to me too this. this happened to me I posted a video for.

Trump right on my personal social media. and one of our big sponsors called and. said take that down you know what I said. go [ __ ] yourself yeah you vote for. whoever you want to vote for and I'll. vote for whoever I want to vote for. that's how this works I don't even care. who you're voting for it's none of my. [ __ ] business but [ __ ] you yeah don't. ever [ __ ] call me and tell me who to. vote for yeah yeah yeah I think a lot of. people feel in fear these days you know. a lot of people feel in fear that if. they don't vote for certain people.

they're going to lose their jobs I mean. it's Hollywood for example think about. how [ __ ] crazy that is it sounds. insane it sounds just like well it'll. keep happening unless more people stand. up for themselves and give them the [ __ ]. you response well I'm GNA tell my. sponsors right now if you don't if you. don't like what I [ __ ] have on I'll. tell you exactly what I'll do I'll end. my deals and I'll just sell direct to. Consumer for a lower price because the. people will support you you know that. well listen man you can't it's like this. whole BD light deal you know people are. talking [ __ ] now sellout and all the.

[ __ ] that that they'll [ __ ] say. believe me I'm the furthest [ __ ]. thing from a sellout yeah budlight is. the right move for me they're exactly. who I want to be with right now and uh. we are very aligned as far as core. values go you know what I mean 65,000. Americans they employ yeah that right. there should be enough 65,000 Americans. are employed there why you want to put a. bullet in that brand off of one [ __ ]. thing how about you go back and look at.

all the good things they've done yeah. right a good point and where they really. stand and what they really believe in. they take care of veterans they they. they take care of veterans families and. First Responders families who have. fallen and the list just goes on and on. almost a billion dollars a year with us. Farmers wow that alone is the reason you. should be drinking [ __ ] budlight yeah. so [ __ ] I I look deeper than just. [ __ ] you know oh they did this. [ __ ] can with whoever I don't give a. [ __ ] about that. it's they've already they're showing.

right now that they're coming with me. and they want to be aligned with me. those of you that are hardcores some of. you guys are fanatical on this [ __ ] that. should be your you know you guys think. you're all looking for an apology I. ain't going to [ __ ] apologize to you. yeah [ __ ] that just cuz some risky fella. you know just cuz some you know and they. had 2500 influencers that day they gave. everybody their own can I know they did. I knew that [ __ ] I'm like they just gave. a can everybody nobody's paying. attention if if I don't know where I'm. at sexually I could probably use a drink.

you. know that's honestly how I feel dude. that guy's having that guy's having the. toughest day that's [ __ ] you can't. decide what union to [ __ ] be in bro. that's a [ __ ] issue dude that's a big. issue to me but um no I think look man I. think it's important and you know what. it makes me think I don't look and see. who cuz we're in a place now where I can. choose the advertisers that I want and I. never thought about that before I never. have until just now and I could I can. look at advertisers and see if they have.

some of the same beliefs and values that. I do 100% you know and it's important. and that is how you start to build back. things the other way I wish and it makes. it fun whoever you are and whatever you. believe in when you align yourself with. people not just the people that work for. you and around you but the sponsors that. you're with yeah it just makes. everything so much more fun you enjoy. your job you love what you do every day. and there's no [ __ ] nobody's [ __ ]. calling you going you know hey don't. have [ __ ] Kennedy on your show hey go. [ __ ] yourself [ __ ] tell me who I'm.

going to have on my show yeah go John F. [ __ ] yourself that's what I'll tell ex. there you go exactly dude it's crazy. because Lee Harvey Oswald went to the. same middle school as me which is pretty. wild but um anyway I don't know why I. told you robt Kennedy's a smart guy and. he's you know he's a great man he's an. environmentalist first of all and he. helped clean up our environment right. he's he grew up raising homing pigeons. and he has this great story about him. and his friends when they were kids they. would put they would give the Homing. pigeons to a to the train conductor. right and they would be like okay take.

these to Virginia or whatever and let. them off at the same time you have to. promise us and whoever gets back to the. roost first that's who wins right so. imagine that game with your buddy you're. just [ __ ] sitting there waiting for a. pigeon to come in you know just the. guy's fascinating right that's some rich. people [ __ ] right there oh dude that is. [ __ ] Rich bro something flies by us. dude somebody's [ __ ] gunning it down. bro you know um but uh we actually had a. couple Brothers bu us grilling up a dove. one time our neighbors and uh and I.

never eaten Dove but it was pretty good. but um but Robert's a fascinating guy. but that's how he started caring up. caring about vaccinations was he's an he. cared about the environment outside of. us so then he started care about the. environment inside of us right um so it. all makes perfect sense but um but yeah. I love the guy um what about so when you. deal with like how has it been harder. because you guys are part of William. Morris right I work with them right they. pretty woke company right is it woke is. woke can be yeah yeah I think it's woke.

Morris entertainment or something you. know it should be anyway but um yeah. they're [ __ ] woke they're always. crazy we had Tucker Carlson on the other. day and they're all [ __ ] I'm sure you. know or whatever putting on their maxi. pads but um I love Tucker too yeah. Tucker's [ __ ] fascinating is dude. awesome I'm actually going to dinner. with him here in the next uh next few. weeks yeah he's it was interesting I. didn't know what it would be like you. know he looks like a guy that you know. uh gets dressed at Johnston and Murphy. in the airport every day you know but um.

he was really really cool yeah he's a. great dude smart guy too really smart. yeah it was fun I I don't judge people. by their politics or or their race or. their religions or any of that [ __ ]. there's uh you're either a douchebag or. you're not a douchebag and and if you're. a douchebag I want nothing to do with. you if you're a good person I don't care. who you vote for what who you sleep with. or what religion you are I don't care. about any of that [ __ ] sh is it um how. much have you learned about different. cultures and ethnic ethnicities just.

having your cuz dude you bring in. there's people with flag sometimes and I. got to look them up you know yeah no. it's true that's funny it's amazing. though it's like I learned about uh. Ecuador from um Cheeto Vera right I. didn't know about it but next thing you. know I know about it I get to talk with. him it's like from. eador yeah yeah thank God I got that. right too because that [ __ ] Flag I. got it wrong I questioned it um Cheo ver. is a great dude um fasc but it is it's. it's it's it's. there will be nights that we'll be. sitting there by the octagon and I trip.

out I grew up a big Bruce Lee fan right. and when you watch Enter the Dragon it's. basically the premise is this this. fanatical guy got all these people from. around the world who were supposed to be. the best martial artists in the world he. brings them to one place to fight um. that's a movie yeah Enter the Dragon. with Enter the Dragon I've heard of it. you never saw Enter the Dragon I never. saw. it you need to watch that tonight when. you go home all right yes sir Enter the.

Dragon so this guy brings them all to. this island the guy ends up being you. know bad guy he's corrupt or whatever. and Bruce Lee kills him sorry to ruin. the movie for you but uh I'll still. watch it some nights I'll sit there and. I'll think about it I got I got this guy. from China fighting a guy from. Kazakhstan I got this guy from Brazil. fighting a guy from France you know what. I mean and it's like it is it's like I. grew up loving Enter the Dragon in that. whole concept now here you are doing it.

doing it it's yeah it's pretty [ __ ]. cool dude laughter and left hooks says a. universal languages I think it's true I. agree because it's crazy imagine two. guys that can't even speak to each other. then you put Keith Peterson in between. him as the mediator and no offense I. love Keith he came to a show in New. Jersey he knows I love him and uh but if. that's the [ __ ] moderator and then. they can't even speak but they're. fighting it's really it's kind of a. beautiful dance the whole thing is a. beautiful day have these people from. different parts of the world right and.

they're training and they're trying to. become the best mixed Mar martial arts. they can be and somebody on the other. side of the planet is doing the same and. we can actually put them together to see. who is the best it's [ __ ] awesome. dude that's got to be so high man it's. awesome have you had trouble do you ever. have trouble like I have trouble A lot. of times feeling proud of myself is. something I've had trouble withes has. that ever been something you've dealt. with does that make any sense when I ask. you that I'm never proud of myself I I I. always look at things like we're not.

even close people ask me all the time do. you ever look around and say oh wow look. at I'm always like what's next what's. next what's next yeah why do you think. that is do you think because I'm I'm. that way too it's hard for me to feel. kind of where I'm at sometimes because I. always have some Vision or something you. know that needs to be done yeah do you. think that comes because I noticed it's. a commonality amongst some some folks do. you think there's any have you able to. get in touch with any of that and think. about that at all no I don't give a [ __ ]. yeah I just keep [ __ ] I just keep.

plugging I just keep plugging man. there's just so much more work to be. done I just want to do as much as I can. do yeah until I can't do it anymore yeah. dude I I'm so thankful that you said. that about the advertisers because I. don't even think about it we advertise. for a lot of companies right and we can. have an effect on how well they do we've. helped build some big Brands and to. think that I should know who what their. some of their thoughts are and their. beliefs are so that I can align them. with mine [ __ ] that's cool that's. something that's a way that I can help. contribute towards in the world and have.

fun doing it you know you help build. their business they help build yours. it's a really it should be a great. relationship and it should be a good. experience for everybody involved yeah. um but I can tell you from experience if. you end up with the wrong one there's. nothing fun about it and actually you. you end up in a in a bad relationship. it's like any other bad relationship. between you and a woman or whatever it. could be. a bad relationship yeah have yall. struggled with I mean it happens I guess. it's happened a couple times but yeah um.

oh pelaton was the we just got an update. um P was the B was the people who wanted. an ad out pelaton and meanwhile you have. RFK so pelaton yeah what do they sell. [ __ ] bik the stationary bikes yeah. dude pelaton sell stationary bikes and. they got a problem with Robert [ __ ]. Kennedy [ __ ] you pelaton what who the. [ __ ] are they yeah first of right are. you [ __ ] kidding me yeah yeah [ __ ].

pelaton calling bitching about Robert. Kennedy yeah dude you want to go nowhere. who who's the CEO of. pelaton I want to see this [ __ ] guy I. want to see this [ __ ] lamb dude hey. you know what gets you further than. pelaton hitchhiking okay how about that. dude Barry mcth this [ __ ] weener. snitel huh let's see Barry McCarthy oh. my. god oh oh yeah oh [ __ ] yeah Barry.

McCarthy looks like that guy 100% and. look if you're just listening at home. and you're thinking of what he looks. like you're right he looks like a. douchebag yeah dude 100% where's he from. oh yeah he looks like somebody that eats. his own skin a little bit at a time yeah. he is he is. a where is he [ __ ] from he called me. up and said this guy was complaining. about something I'd say oh. [ __ ] San Francisco California there we.

go my boy ring a ling dude they've been. giving patons to [ __ ] vagrant that's. why they're not leaving yeah [ __ ] you. pellaton yeah do we have pelons in the. gym are those. pelaton asport no no there's bikes next. to it asport as yeah we're getting rid. of them y we're getting rid of the. pelons yeah and if they ever ma we sorry. he's going to kill himself but we're. getting rid of the pelons look pelons.

are out of the gym whoever uses the most. can [ __ ] have them at home but they. can't use them here brother that's what. you do that that's what you do you stop. [ __ ] using their products and you. [ __ ] them yeah and tell them to go [ __ ]. themselves and that's the same thing for. me like if somebody's telling you that. you can't vote a certain way if. somebody's telling you that if your boss. is make a video in [ __ ] blast imagine. that [ __ ] dork yeah [ __ ] picking. up the phone calling you and telling you. that you can't have Robert Kennedy who. is a Democrat by the way you know that.

guy's a [ __ ] Democrat right telling. you that you can't [ __ ] have him on. your show who the [ __ ] are you Barry. McCarthy yeah to think you can pick up. the phone and call anybody you sell. [ __ ] stationary bikes for a living. you [ __ ] clown [ __ ] you yeah [ __ ]. them dude god dude and what is he. [ __ ] what is he he's probably. middleweight I'll [ __ ] cut 40 pounds. in [ __ ] that guy is the typical. [ __ ] pompus arrogant [ __ ]. douchebag that I cannot stomach it's.

people who don't know yeah it's people. that think they know what it's like. somewhere and they've never even been. there it's a story of a lot of our. country these days but I like this it. gives me it gives me an Avenue to feel. like I can fight back so I appreciate. that you have to fight back yeah you. gonna let that [ __ ] guy tell you what. to do [ __ ] no dude I will cook that. dude's [ __ ] look at this there he is. that that right there tells you exactly. what [ __ ] Barry McCarthy is all about. pellaton just laid off 500 their. employees in their fourth round of cuts. this year y you know what everybody.

listening [ __ ] [ __ ] Barry McCarthy. and pelaton okay that that's what a. standup guy Barry is yeah dude and. that's why he a yeah [ __ ] SL off let. off 500 more of his [ __ ] employees. out in his fourth round of cuts yeah and. what's Lamer than watching your husband. get on a bike that doesn't go anywhere. huh what wife is like oh oh I'm so proud. of this guy that's like my dad man right.

my uh get borsari in here right now I. need borsari in here yeah get him yeah. is he a bicyclist he has to be if he. isn't why does he look exactly not he's. just he's a workout freak I'm I'm not. bullshitting you you can film us yeah my. my guys are going to take the pelons out. of the gym today I love that dude we're. getting rid of them we're going to go. throw them in the [ __ ] garbage today. I'll be happy to toss him in we're. throwing the patons in the garbage we're. throwing him out of the UFC gym I I'll. be happy to toss him in um what about.

when you talk about Star Building you. mentioned earlier and we'll do it we'll. do it I know you're amped and I. appreciate it um do what we're gonna. throw those pelons out oh yeah yeah no. that that's a fact yeah [ __ ] I'm almost. excited now yeah [ __ ] that guy man he. ruin you know what he did he ruin they. ruined my day the advertisers calling. they want it down they want it down they. want there's advertisers are upset they. ruined my [ __ ] day and I was already. having a shitty day that day and they. [ __ ] made it just a nightmare it was. like 7 o'clock at night you got to take. it down and the episode had been up it's.

a it's just [ __ ] show but yeah screw. them um you talked about Star Building a. little bit ago right you mentioned it. what is it is there a toughest class or. even gender is it tough to build like. female stars like what is that kind of. like Star. Building so if you look at the contender. Series right I I create lots of. different content to build Stars you got. the contender series you have looking.

for a fight The Ultimate Fighter which. was the greatest Star Building uh show. in format of all time and I'm I'm. literally doing that same format right. now with power slab we we bring guys. into a house you find these guys you. bring them into a house they live eat. and sleep and train together and then. compete against each other and what it. does is it it does a few. things while you're you're you know. showing the world who they are on on on. television or online or whatever it is. you're it's also a pressure cooker they.

have to deal with pressure and competing. over and over and cutting weight then. there's a camera in their face seven. days a week 24 hours a day it's like. media training at the same time it is. and and what always happens is no matter. what the best always rise to the top it. is fascinating all right so this is. Craig borsari he's my head of I know. Craig he's friends with my my I know his. neighbors yep there you go oh he's Craig. Craig is very friendly with all his an. exceptional guy so uh he was in a.

situation where he had Robert Kennedy uh. Jr on his show and an Advertiser called. and told him get rid of that you're not. posting that podcast take it down blah. blah blah because he had Robert Kennedy. on right um it was. pelaton okay do you know who Barry. McCarthy is no Barry McCarthy is the CEO. of pelaton yeah let us see Barry. McCarthy again can we see him again. please we got pictures of you and Barry. McCarthy together actually Craig is that.

is that pelons that we have in the gym. we have pelons yeah they're going we're. throwing them out yeah we're getting rid. of them that's Barry McCarthy be on a. treadmill this is the [ __ ] guy that. called and told them to take down the. the the [ __ ] we had an episode does. that look like the guy that would call. him [ __ ] about Robert Kennedy Jr he. does doesn't he who is that [ __ ] a. little like Tim Cook yeah he does huh a. little I don't know who Tim Cook I'm. just agreeing with you um I don't know. him either who's look oh oh Apple okay.

are gone they're gone they're going out. today I got to go bike on the road now. yeah y something no you just got to use. the assault bikes now instead yeah huh. those are tougher anyway really tough. Pon it's time to step up if I if I asked. you to guess so he called and he wanted. Robert Kennedy Jr taken down right. threatening him uh on his podcast right. yeah they were about to go public I. think their company was about to go. public or something they're like this. could ruin everything that's what our Ad.

Agency said to us they're worried this. could ruin everything it's [ __ ] 8 o00. at night on a Friday or something you. [ __ ] imagine that and uh and they. made us go take an older episode down. because of something he said in recently. in the news or this was like a year and. two years ago maybe where where do you. think Barry lives where do you think. he's from just look at him guess huh and. and listen to the conversation and see. if you can tell me where Barry lives. yeah he probably lives. Craig San Francisco oh [ __ ] ding ding.

ding ding ding dude hey you just bar. lives in San Francisco hold on you just. won four. pelons congrats you just won a whole. [ __ ] line of you can line them right. up in your house can't set them up here. in the office so I might as well put. them on my home those are going right in. your house congrats I'll put him in my. you G have a flock of pelons dude isn't. that a band you're G have a flock of. pelons dude that's classic man oh man.

all right anyway just had to share that. with you yeah I'm go figure out my new. work go get those bikes sent over to. your house yeah dude and send Barry a. text and tell him thanks thanks dude. that makes you feel empowered honestly. no this is what I do I I like do more of. this bro what I do every day and no bike. helmets either anybody wearing a [ __ ]. bike helmet out there I bet a Barry. wears a helmet when he rides his oh I. bet he wears when he rides his wife.

dude you [ __ ] come around me with a. bike helmet dude I would rather get a. concussion and die and be seen in a. [ __ ] bike helmet so that is awesome. anyway um what's it like uh we'll switch. out of the out of this world a little. bit what's it like being a dad you have. a couple children right yeah I got three. I got two boys and a girl was that scary. when you first thought about being a dad. yes very wow what was and you already. having success at that point in your. life because I don't know a ton about.

when I bought uh right when we bought. the UFC I had my first son my oldest son. he's 22 now and uh Dana Jun no yeah Dana. Jun yeah andet kid then uh a year as. soon as as soon as uh you could be with. your wife again after being pregnant she. got pregnant again so my boys my boys. are are are uh less than a year apart so. I had two kids right out the. gates yeah it was uh two kids right out.

of the gate then then they said after my. wife had a a tubular pregnancy where the. baby gets caught in the tube and the. tube bursts and uh they said she. couldn't have kids anymore so oh we we. we were like whatever and then five. years later she got pregnant with my. daughter just miraculously yeah wow. that's what I call her the miracle baby. yeah and what's something that you like. about each one of your children just. individually or that you admire about. each one of them um. my oldest one is uh is funloving and and.

uh you know a great kid that you know. he's like a meat head he plays football. he loves to work out he hangs around. he's in a frat you know at USD and all. of his buddies are fun guys and uh. they're actually having a uh this uh. fraternity uh uh auction you know. they're raising money for the fraternity. next week so I'm going down there and. going to their auction and all that [ __ ]. a beautiful school too then my younger. son is very artistic very talented he. could play any sport he wants to play. he's really good at anything but all.

three of my kids are really good Surfers. snowboarders um and and my younger son. loves the skateboard and all that stuff. so he's actually working for a company. that Lorenzo fertita and I own called. thrill one which is thrill one thrill. one we own Ridiculousness on MTV y'all. own that yeah that's our only show yeah. it's basically the Ridiculousness. Network exactly Ridiculousness we own uh. LS skate League uh we own Nitro Circus. and uh Travis pastrano nitr cross oh.

nice yeah so he my son works for them oh. he does and then my daughter is 17 so. he's the artistic one that one yeah yeah. yeah and and they're all athletic he's. the artistic one and what about your. daughter what's my cheer she's a. cheerleader oh she is yeah she she's. still in high school she's a junior and. uh just getting her ready to figure out. which college she wants to go to and all. that good [ __ ] is it tougher being a. girl did for you was it easier being a. girl or boy dad did you have any it's. tougher being a girl dad because I. didn't really give a [ __ ] what the boys. did you know they could do whatever they.

want she can't do whatever she wants so. you know as a dad you have to sort of. oversee and protect your daughter more. than you did your sons ah interesting. and do that naturally I don't have any. kids but I would like to you know and so. does that naturally just happen in a man. you think if you have a daughter it just. kind of shows up more 100% wow dude I. dated a girl I remember in high school. and her dad was a fireman right and I. broke up with her and he [ __ ] made me. eat like. like probably five hot dogs I remember. he was [ __ ] mad at me because I went. to another event with her and it was.

like this weird energy and he [ __ ]. sat there and made me eat as many as I. could it was just hot dogs yeah just. like unlimited Franks man I was I'm I'm. I'm trying to figure this one out so he. just wanted to [ __ ] put me through. something you know and I think putting. somebody through bad [ __ ] pork while. they're sitting there you know it's just. a lot for a you know for for me when I. was a kid you know I didn't have a lot. of Role Models so I think it was a lot. um big Holidays baby. that means big family get together baby. you know that somebody's going to be.

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thr1 stuff that I'm doing love it uh you. know we're having a blast doing that um. you know holler head my whiskey yeah. having fun with that you know I like uh. I like building Brands and I I love. running businesses and more importantly. I'm like addicted to winning I love to. win I love to to get out there and take. um these. Niche uh you know Brands and and and. blow them up and make them big yeah I.

know I'm friends with John shahii right. and you are too man he's I love Shahi a. love love the both the brothers the ne. boys uh that's that's my it's your squad. that's my it's my squad they keep you. young I bet they keep you connected to. stuff probably well you know how I got. turned on to them was from my oldest son. Dana during Co he says D dad I want to. show you something he took me down the. movie room and showed me elk boys oh. yeah and I said yeah I get it I get it. and then crazy enough organically they.

reached out to me during Co and wanted. to go to fight Island so that was how we. met and we became super tight I'm I do. anything for them yeah yeah John's been. an exceptional uh new friend to me in. the past year and a half he's a neat guy. he's inspiring he's fun he's creative he. works hard 100% um do you is there any. new places you're looking to [ __ ] get. this thing to happen like you thinking. about do doing like you know UFC on top. of killamanjaro UFC you know the. Thriller in Manila do you guys think of.

redoing anything like that my next big. project that I'm working on right now is. the sphere I want to do the sphere on on. Mexican Independence Day and literally. create and put on the greatest live. sporting event anyone has ever seen yeah. that's my next big project how much fun. is it when Brandon Moreno comes into the. ring it's fun isn't it it's awesome yeah. him and uh it's so fun the the the whole. uh Mexico thing and these Mexican. talented kids yeah I've been working on. this for for 22 years wow that's finally.

starting to come to fruition it's so. cool man it's I just yeah I love it when. he comes to the ring um yeah I've met so. many neat people and been inspired by so. many people from your sport Dustin. porier and I are close friends you know. and it's been special like he's like a. real friend to me he's inspired me so. many times when I want to give up I. remember things that he says or other. Fighters say it's it's interesting the. amount of inspiration that that a lot of. people get from your sport um. oh do you ever think about yeah how is. the relationship with WME is it good. very good yeah yeah very good you know.

Ari is uh Ari's a maniac man a maniac in. in a good way he he is like a [ __ ]. serial entrepreneur and do you guys have. that in common he's super [ __ ] smart. and the in the fact that you know when. we sold one of his big things was that I. couldn't go so at one point the fatita. sat down with me and they were like cuz. I thought we were just going to move on. and go we were going to go do whatever. next and they were just like listen this.

is really good for all of us and this. and that you know you got to stay. nobody's going to buy this thing unless. you stay yeah so you know in the. beginning I I had a hard time with it uh. because I you know I didn't want to sell. selling not Lorenzo was done Lorenzo was. ready to move on and walk and uh I. didn't want to so we got in with Ari. Ari lets me run the businessman and just. you know if I need help on on something. like hey I I need this connection or I.

need this or that he can make all that. [ __ ] happen or's that guy like you want. to meet the [ __ ] I want to talk to. the to the [ __ ] uh Ronnie president. of [ __ ] India or whatever the [ __ ] he. can get that guy on the phone and and. get the ball rolling um dang yeah no. AR's awesome he's been a other than. being in business with the fertitas I. couldn't have landed with a with another. better partner than [ __ ] Ari he. really is uh awesome I love him is it. hard to fend off because I know you I.

know so you like to gamble is it hard to. keep gambling out of and I bet on on. fights uh on UFC fights online is it how. is there a point where gambling or the. the the odds makers try to come and. infiltrate the actual outcome of sports. no does that make any sense that. question yeah yeah I get it talking. about like Point shaving and [ __ ] like. that happens which would be hard in your. sport I think cuz these guys have so. much individual pride and it would be so. obvious 100% we just had an we we the.

problem that we have it just happened. recently is Insider information is the. is the bigger problem these guys inside. these camps oh yeah the guy gets hurt. like Chase Sherman as a list or whatever. no defitely do I love Chase Sherman and. that was just joke chase you know um oh. suspend ma coach James Krauss worked. with offshore Sports B ah so he knows. what's going on so he's trying to bet oh. so. he knows what's going on so he lets. these offshore guys know yeah this guy's. goingon to fight and he tore his ACL or.

something like that this happened it did. yeah this just happened recently and uh. that's the closest thing to you know. right but there's no more about Insider. information but these guys the thing. that's so [ __ ] stupid is when you. start when money starts coming in on a. guy these these these these guys know. they they know man they they they know. the uh the gambling world inside and out. so if anything's fishy then they end up. launching an investigation yeah and. they're going to get you and guess what.

whatever you made on that bet is not. [ __ ] worth going to you've seen me. say this before it's out the federal. [ __ ]. prison you ain't going to the [ __ ]. white collar crime place over here. you're going to [ __ ] federal prison. yeah you can't people have people be. like what are you in for you know and. you're like Paulo Costa in the third. round right you know it would just be it. wouldn't be as like you know and I love. pooc Costa that's no but it's like you. can't have that be what you're in for in.

a [ __ ] serious there's a big. difference when you talk about certain. crimes but this one is is a federal. [ __ ] crime oh because it's gambling. and you go to federal prison that's. that's some real [ __ ] yeah oh yeah I. wouldn't like it um what about uh and. just one more question so but it does. that happen to sports where they get. compromised you think like does that. make any sense when I'm trying and I'm. not saying that no I mean it's a great. question it's it's something that how. many people have ever said to you oh my. god the NFL's so shady this Happ you.

hear that because you hear that a lot. more now the Patriots just beat the. bills right and the and the bills were. 10 and a half Point favorites you know. it's stuff like that that makes people. go crazy Detroit just got killed you. know one of the best they were five- one. or Five-0 I don't know what they were. but it's just all that type of [ __ ] is. what made me stop you know you know I'm. a [ __ ] Gambler I love to play. Blackjack yeah I don't Sports bet I do. not Sports oh was there a bet that took. you out of it or just that kind of stuff. you know how people say I threw a little. money on the on the game for fun there's.

nothing [ __ ] fun about betting on a. game it is the the biggest sweat roller. coaster of all [ __ ] time man and and. it it won't be fun or make you happy it. makes you [ __ ] miserable so you like. to know that the so with Blackjack you. know the outcome pretty quick so you. don't like that long waiting there's no. doubt about it and you. know you get in there and and and uh. it's just more fun I'm actually hands on. and actually playing the [ __ ] game. you know when you sit there and just. watch a [ __ ] game and watch this. whole thing unfold and and lose your.

money there's absolutely nothing fun. about or these guys that will do these. parlays yeah I got an 18 parlay and. every [ __ ] team wins and then you. lose the last the last [ __ ] game on. the parlay right yeah and you bet $10. and it would have paid you $10 million. if you [ __ ] won the thing and now you. spent two days watching it too now your. kids are eating [ __ ]. coffee yeah that [ __ ] is [ __ ] heing. dude um what about like uh was there a. fighter that retired and it just kind of. broke your heart because you just or and.

it could be more than one maybe I mean I. I know you have probably have great. relationships and unique relationships. with all of them um but was there one. that like is it hard not to get attached. to some of them 100% especially in the. early days we were like a big family I. mean it was like everybody knew. everybody I mean back when you go back. to Chuck Liddell Matt Hughes Rich. Franklin you know I mean that whole. group back then I mean these people. would come to my house for Christmas and. Thanksgiving and you know holidays and.

things like that and then you had to go. up there and watch them fight and and it. was tough and and Ronda Rousey Ronda and. I are super close and um that was a. tough one I would say the toughest. retirement for me because usually when. it's time for them to retire I'm happy. for them to retire it's it's over you've. accomplished everything that you could. possibly accomplish why keep doing this. um khabib was a tough retirement yeah. you know cuz I think khabib had so much. more to offer and and so much more to.

accomplish um but I think when his dad. passed away it kind of sucked the the. fun out of it for him and and he was. done plus he made so much [ __ ] money. he never has to do anything ever again. oh yeah he could buy his own rock quarry. over there where you know and no offense. I don't know where they're at but I know. and it gets pretty you know um you know. uh Paleolithic and some of those areas. um I don't know if we have anything else. to talk about man yeah one thing you. said that kind of reminded me was I. remember when when Trump was running for.

office and Bill bich that asked him. about him and he said that's my friend I. support my [ __ ] friend you know like. whatever you guys think about it is fine. like because he wrote a letter to him. telling him congratulations for running. I think was that is that what happened. and um what are you talking about uh it. was when Donald Trump was running for. office right and they and Bill bich had. written him a letter that just said hey. congrats on running for president right. and I think Trump mentioned it and then. the media attacked bich about it but he. said hey that's my friend I support my.

friend yeah yeah and people need to be. able to stand up I think it's yeah I. think people a lot of people are in fear. because I'm having breakfast with him. tomorrow on his plane he's my friend. right we talk all the time we talk about. fights he he called me up uh right after. Abu Dhabi and said those rides are great. oh my God the vul uh you know um is yeah. I met him twice at your events man. exactly he's a great guy he's you know. it this is politics are dirty man it's.

nasty it's ugly you know and uh like all. the [ __ ] that's going on right with him. right now if he wasn't running they. wouldn't be doing any of this stuff to. him none of this would be happening and. if he wasn't in the lead like he's going. to win the election none of this would. be happening to him right now so yeah it. just it is what it is and and the guy's. always been an amazing friend to me he. and I will be friends for the rest of. our lives yeah yeah I'm I'm glad I got. to meet him that's first president ever. got to meet you know I would support any. of our presidents you know yeah I always. you well I'm that guy too you know I'm I.

I'm I'm not volatile over politics man. this is America you can vote for whoever. you want you could be on either side of. the of the political Spectrum I don't. care I don't judge you by your politics. I judge what type of a person you are. yeah yeah and if you think the. government's going to save your life. dude I've always said this me to the. government you they're just a f these. people that want go you want less. government you want them out of your. life you do not want the government and. the government's never going to take. care of you yeah never going to get rich.

off the government dude no dude stamp. collections get [ __ ] homie right the. post office is almost out of business. dude have you been to the post office. recently um it's they just tell you how. to get to wherever you want your mail to. go dude I'll say this it's uh yeah. there's nothing tougher than uh there's. nothing more ridiculous than expecting. the government but I think we're in a. weird space now where we're between. the government that we've been used to. and a new kind of privatized communism. almost so I think we're in this weird.

space of almost two governments where. one is like a almost a sh like a shadow. well there's a battle going on right now. there's there there's a there's a war. there is going on uh in the government. one that wants to go one way that most. of us don't want to go and one that. wants to keep things the way they are. yeah it might be broken and [ __ ] up. and needs to be fixed but um we're. definitely in that weird place right now. I agree so get off your pelons boys and. let's [ __ ] go to war uh Dan white man.

thanks so much dude and just thanks for. uh yeah David Spade got to bring me to a. fight and and you you let me come and. just I appreciate it man your friends. with a lot of my friends and um I'm just. grateful it's been a joy to get to know. people that work in your office and just. everything it's made it's added a lot of. joy to my life well congrats on all your. success man we're happy for you and uh. yeah I'll see you I'll see you at the. next one I'll see you at next power FL. man there you go boom now I'm just. floating on the breeze and I feel I'm. falling like these leaves I'm must be.

Cornerstone oh but when I reach that. ground I'll share this piece of mind I. found I can feel it in my. bones but it's going to. take.