Casey Rocket | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #671

Today's guest is a stand-up comedian. His uh his origins are mysterious. Yes. But you'll know him from his wildly. popular Kill Tony appearances. Uh he's on the road now. You can see him. live. Um there's no one like him. There's no one like him. Uh I had a. great time with today's guest, the. sultan of riff, Mr. Casey Rocket. [music].

>> [music]. >> Sometimes I can't tell if I'm having. like male hot flashes or whatever. >> Sure. Men of a certain age, every age. >> Every age, maybe. >> [laughter]. >> Men of a certain age being the spectrum. of all ages, yeah. >> Good. I think these days things have. gotten crazy. You'll see a little kid. having a hot flash or whatever. He'll be.

like, you know, you'll see a little kid. just like go like just looking for a. like a. >> a faucet. >> People are like [laughter] they're. people are trying to do anything they. can. >> to cool these kids off. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> To help to help themselves. >> Sure. Yeah, a spicket. >> You'll see people doing like the the. level we've gotten to in a society of. trying to help ourselves is crazy. It's. like people are playing like a lot of. like certain hurts of sounds that are. supposed to like. you know, help you pass old uh trauma or.

help you uh. you know, uh win the lottery. Like. there's a lot like there's a lot of. megahertz that's. variable for different options, you. know. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's all kinds of sounds. that can help you win the lottery. Um. >> [laughter]. >> I'm the first to admit that. Yeah, so. certain like tonal. certain certain like tonal shifts. So if. you go like low, like you'll win what is. it? Like 10 to 20 grand. >> Yes. >> So but the higher ones they get. dangerous for your like what do they. call it? Like um terminal mental. velocity. Uh.

>> Yeah, well when people win too much. money it induces a lot I think it's. called high dollar trauma or something. HDT and you you will see people with. that like rich people or whatever and. they're suddenly eating like rare. cheeses cheeses made from you know. obviously that you know cultivated or. pasteurized in the tears of the poor and. young. >> Yes. Well, what did they say? It's like. old money at the poverty line. So, it's. like LA with LA by way of New York. So,

the lower the cheese is on like a. vibrational frequency the higher the. dollar amount you don't have to pay it's. like a tax write off. Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh, definitely if you get the cuz. there's somebody running around with a. 425 MHz queso dip right now. I know there's a truck that just stalled. out on the way to the Hamptons that was. full of it. And uh. >> The engine just could not function like. that. >> Yeah. I think well when you're when. you're pushing that much. >> [laughter]. >> high dollar dairy and you're pulling it. behind you and you have a [ __ ]. probably a seventh or eighth grade.

reading level driver, you. >> [laughter]. >> The yeah, the polarity there is just not. healthy. And it's like where does the. buck stop? The buck stops The buck stops. when the truck stops as they say. >> Yeah, dude. That's how it works. God, if queso made. us freaking smarter God, can you even. imagine? >> Can you imagine the mental bandwidth I. would have right now? Cuz I had a all. queso breakfast. >> Did you? >> Yeah. So, frozen solid liquid. Yeah. >> Oh, wow. >> So, you get like um what is it? Like a. fudge pop of like frozen queso fresco.

And then you go like Okay, you go chili. con carne. >> Mhm. >> Um pure liquids you leave that on the. dashboard. >> Mhm. >> And then you go with the gas which is um. just like a handful of like Ritz. >> And those are so good. And what I've. also heard is that they have those new. queso whip its or whatever. Like a whip. it like pimento cheese whip its. So you. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, galaxy guys, yeah. >> Yeah, you hit a couple of those, brother. >> Ooh, I got a stomach ache. >> Oh, you'll get sick. Yeah, you'll have.

to [ __ ]. >> You'll have to poop. Yeah, it's bad for. your appendix, yeah. >> Oh, your These days your appendix will. burst or a rich person will hire you to. burst your appendix so they don't have. to. >> Sure. Yeah, they'll tether you up. That's what happened to Duff McKagan. from Guns N' Roses. >> [laughter]. >> He He accidentally tethered to himself. >> We've been dancing with Mr. Brownstone. God, dude. >> Too much of a good thing. >> Too [laughter] much dashboard queso.

>> Yum. >> That's our band name. >> It's too like the string cheese. incident. >> Oh god, dude. I used to follow. Widespread Panic, did you? >> Really? >> Yeah. >> I think I know Well, not Widespread, but. I know someone in the Tuskegee Truckers. band. >> Do you? >> Dwayne. >> Johnson? >> Allman? >> Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson? >> Dwayne Allman? >> Yeah. >> I've always wanted a last name that was. a nut. Bring him up, Dwayne Allman. >> Peter Pistachio? >> [laughter]. >> Or a pea. Or like Ronnie Garbanzo or.

whatever. Like a bean, maybe. >> Yeah. Wait, is Dwayne Allman dead? Oh, no. He died in 1971. Who Who have I been. talking to? >> [laughter]. >> Oh, dude. It's probably one of those. Nigerian scammers. >> He's like, "Hey, I want to teach you. steel guitar." And I'm like, "Great. That. sounds great.". >> Melissa. >> Melissa [laughter]. What's the catch? I'm going to teach you. how to play Southbound. All right. >> Kasey Rocket, good to see you, man. >> Good to see you. Happy to be here.

Thanks for talking, Kasey. >> Oh, yeah, dude. It's almost Well, I I. misread your name earlier, and [snorts]. that's what even had me thinking about. it. I thought it was Kasey Rocket. >> Sure. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Kasey Object Permanence Rocket. >> Yeah. should. >> a like a Latino version of you that. comes out. >> [laughter]. >> Named queso rocket. >> And I go, "This person's an impostor.". >> And he's like, "No, I'm not.". >> Home? He's all liquid.

So sick. >> god, I hope we're okay. Um. >> Me too. A riff like that will make you. start questioning like your your purpose. in the world. >> Yeah, things get rough, dude. Well, I. was out it reminded me it took me to a. place when I went to see um. I went and we watched it was at a. music festival one weekend. It was in. New Orleans. It's called a Jazz and. Heritage Festival. It's every year. And. it's. uh they had. Who was playing? The guy.

uh. [ __ ] Some guy that was going to die. soon. >> [laughter]. >> And was that. So was that the general consensus or did. you like retroactively you were like he. was about to die? >> [laughter]. >> He would have like he was out there but. his kid was singing with him kind of. You know, like when they get the kids. out there. >> Yeah. >> And he's sitting over there and somebody. just kind of spraying water on him. Almost like he's like a like a like one. of those Indian plants or whatever that. help that really. >> David Allan Coe. That happened with. Ozzy, too. They like hooked him up to a.

life support machine. I was there. I was. in Birmingham. I saw Ozzy's last. concert. >> Were you really? >> Yeah. >> And did they like was he on an IV and. stuff while he was up there? >> Um yeah, he was in like a UV light. >> [laughter]. >> Really? >> Yeah, they had him in like it was like a. makeshift like Final Destination tanning. machine. So it was like. >> Oh, yeah. >> pointed outwards so he wouldn't didn't. have to be laying down. But. >> Oh. >> See, so that is a tanning bed. You can. see. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you can see. >> The blue yeah, helped him like he had. like photosynthesis. It made him like.

effervesce. >> I mean, that's the darkest tanning bed. you can get. They're like, "How dark do. you want to go?" It's like, "We offer. like uh. you know, Pensacola, Alabama, Tri Delta, Pensacola. Beach. Or we also can go all the way we. can do Aussie last show dark. >> [laughter]. >> We could do South Padre Island or you in. a casket. >> So that they're actually pointing an EMP. at him. That's a sound weapon. So. he has Havana syndrome.

>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. [laughter]. Oh, yeah, dude. And he's just singing. that song. Uh San Juan. >> [laughter]. >> mijo. Have you seen those freaking Tik. Toks, dude? It's like. >> Oh. >> It's a bunch of people that can't read. and they're going to Puerto Rico or. whatever. And so they made a song about. it. Have you seen that, Trev? >> I have not. What was the song? San Juan? >> It's like. It's a lot of people that are having. trouble reading and writing who refuse. to teach their kids how to read and. write cuz they can't, right? >> Sure. [laughter] So there's like Well,

that's a good reason for not doing it. Yeah. >> I agree, but for years people have been. pretending they can and then they show. the kid. And that's like trickle down. ignoramics, right? Sure. It's Reagan. started it. And that's the kind of [ __ ]. that we don't need in the community. So. a lot of them are going to San Juan and. they're doing this song on the way there. to gain points with their lord. >> Okay. And then when they land, hopefully. they have enough like spiritual. savings account to not go bankrupt.

>> Yeah. >> To get a Carlos and Charlie shirt on the. way home. Can you bring it up? You. haven't seen this thing, dude? >> No. >> I don't [snorts] even know if he can. play this or not. >> Hopefully it's not copyrighted. >> I think it was oh AI made the song. That. was the craziest thing about it. This is it. >> Okay. So I am into stuff like this. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> It's basically for the learning. disabled, okay? Which is where we are. There's a whole new genre of music for.

the learning disabled. >> Sure. It helps with like shapes and. colors. >> Well, we thought for years they were. listening to what we were listening to, right? And finally people are like, "No, they need their own music." Play a. little more. Play a little. Just keep. going. >> [laughter]. >> It's in the boot scootin' boogie. Yeah, so it's like spiritual dyslexia. >> Yes. Well, that's exactly what it is. And I think it's I want to say it's. Baptist based. I'm not sure. >> [laughter]. >> But it is There's some. >> Well, you can see kind of like.

the proving ground of like the. Pentecostal religion as well. You can. see some of that seeping into the ground. water. >> Oh, it's you know, sometimes you wake up. and your legs are all soggy and you're. like, >> How do I dry these puppies out? >> Who did this? Who did this and why? Who. did this and why? Cuz I used to always. know someone would pee in my bed every. night and it wasn't me. Mhm. >> How could it be? >> Dude, it couldn't have been that many. times. >> Mhm. No, once or twice you go, "All. right, I've been making some mistakes.".

Four, five, 10 times you get up to. double digits you go like, "I'm being. persecuted.". >> [laughter]. >> I'm being gangstalked by a bunch of. pissers. >> Yeah, dude. It's obvious that they're. sneaking in through our broken window. downstairs near the kitchen. Yeah. They're coming up. They're pissing on. your boy. >> [laughter]. >> I've talked to the landlord. He won't. answer It goes to Malort and on. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, dude. Every time I call the. landlord, it goes to a front desk of. Christian Dior somewhere. So, >> [laughter]. >> they have no clue what we're talking.

about. >> No, they go how They go first of all, how can you smell through the phone? >> [laughter]. >> I don't know. You tell me who's pissing. in my bed and I'll answer your little. inquiry. >> They're like, "We could replace the. sheets. That'll be $1,100." AND YOU'RE. LIKE, "GOD DAMN! I'LL JUST SIT HERE IN poverty and piss.". >> I'll sit here in the potty bed I made. A. water bed full of piss. >> Oh, dude, that. that is what we need is This is what. we're going to get to cuz this society. is getting weird. Can we agree?

>> Sure. I'm the first I'm the second to. admit that you were the first, yeah. >> Okay. And I'm glad we're here and I'm glad. we're here. And society is getting. weird. People are not wearing gloves. anymore when they drive. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I saw an animal the other day no. hoofs on his feet. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, what happened to the nuclear. family? >> It's a big question, dude. I saw two gay. men, they were wearing dog collars, dog, sitting there smoking in the car by. himself. Okay. >> Windows up. Ruins the resale value.

>> It's [laughter] just nobody. I don't know if people don't care or if. they've taken our ability to care away. >> Hm. Yeah, if it is endemic of a greater. social, socio-political problem or if. it's engendered upon the human race in. general. >> Yeah. Well, cuz that's a big question because. the first thing you would take away from. somebody is their ability to care. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Cuz it leaves you in a spot, you know? >> Yeah, well, the one true export of all. of the maleficence of consciousness is.

hope without faith. God, that gives me the that gives me the. shivers. That's so scary. So, people are now dogs. without nails. >> God. And they still think they're scratching. each other's backs. >> No, they were born on third base and. they thought they hit a triple. >> Yeah. It's a different time, man. The zygotes. are different. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I'll say that. >> Sure. >> You seen a Have you seen a.

uh cat scan of a woman's belly recently? >> [laughter]. >> Like a recent, like an up-to-date cat. scan? I've been looking at like old ones. to see how the technology's progressed. >> [laughter]. >> One woman had a Frisbee and an eight. ball in there. That was [laughter] it. >> Yeah. >> So, whatever is living in there are. part-time or whatever is keeping its. luggage there. Okay, obviously. >> [laughter]. >> Likes to party at the park, you know. >> Party at the That was a great WCW.

pay-per-view, the Party at the Park. >> Was that Was that one? >> I know they did the Bash at the Beach, so I can only hope that they did the. Party at the Park. >> Oh, I hope they did, too. And it was. like kind of a It was a beautiful day. It was by a river, right? They hung like. a briefcase full of the world's like the. finest charcuterie board in the world, right? They hung the finest charcuterie. board in the world up, and you had to. climb up a ladder, right? And then you had to get three strong. kids to And you had to climb up one of. their backs, right? And you didn't know. which one, and the winner got.

>> know which one had the best back. >> Yeah. Cuz they kept their shirts on. >> [laughter]. >> So, it's purely intuition. >> Which And also, if you're standing there. intuitioning which kid has a nice back, dude, if you do it too strongly, you go. to jail, right? So, it would take you longer to get to the. charcuterie. >> Yeah. And if you do it too long, also, Booker T is going to hit you with a. chair. So, [laughter]. it's Yeah, that was like a good thought. experiment. That was like the Stanford. Prison Experiment in action. >> Oh, it's where we are.

Um Casey Rocket, dude, good to see you, man. >> Good to see you. Happy to be here. >> It's awesome, dude. You're such a. talent, and it's great to just see you. like in the wild. >> [laughter]. >> You were in Huntington last night, I. saw? >> Yeah, I was in Huntsville. >> Or Huntsville, yeah. They keep changing. the [ __ ] name. >> I know. >> Because they're trying to avoid the IRS. or whatever. >> Yeah. I actually It's funny. Uh before I. came here, I I took a shower a Gregorian. Gregor Roman shower, and uh. which is of course a cheese a cheese. Danish that I put in a bunch of socks.

that I kind of strain it out over my. head. But, I wrote on my hand. >> [laughter]. >> I wrote on my hand last night. I don't. know why, but I wrote Santa Cruz or. Santa Fe, one of the Santas. So, that. doesn't really answer your question, but. I did just look at my. >> [laughter]. >> But, if the question was, "Did you just. look at your hand?" the answer is, "Yes.". >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I was in Huntsville at Levity. [snorts] Live. That was great. >> Oh, yeah. The stage the the location.

from the stage to the audience, it has a. unique ratio there. Do you feel that. there? >> I do. >> Like the height of the stage and the. ratio of the audience is very rare. there. >> It is. It is quite unusual actually. The. Helium's aren't set up like that. Even. you know, Zanies Nashville, Zanies. Chicago. Zanies Rosemont's kind of like that. >> Is it? >> S- slower to the ground. >> I haven't spent time out there. I would. love to get out there. Or um I'm not. allowed to go I. I shouldn't be there, I don't think. But.

>> Okay. >> one day I will go when my mom passes. >> Sure. Yeah. >> I'm going to get out there cuz she would. want me to see it, you. >> [laughter]. >> She'd want you yeah, to see how they. make the spaceships. They do the. spaceships there. >> She would want me to see it, man. >> Lockheed Martin? >> Oh, is that where they're based? >> Yeah, Lockheed Martin there. That's. where they reverse engineer the. anti-gravity technology. So. >> Uh-uh. >> Apparently, that's where some of the. scientists are going missing. You know. those scientists. >> Oh, is that where that's happening. really? In Rosemont?

>> of them went the way of the dodo. Not. not not Rosemont at uh Huntsville. >> Oh, in That's where those scientists. have gone missing down in Huntsville? [laughter]. >> So one of them in particular, she did go. the way of the dodo. She did take an. early exit. Um. but yeah, they're being missing all over. that place. >> It's crazy, dude. From MIT to MIA, bro. That's the craziest. At least 10. individuals connected to sensitive US. aerospace nuclear and defense research. have died or disappeared recently.

That's two different things though. Disappearing. >> Yeah. That gives me more pause that we're a. part of some like greater like neo-noir. detective thing. Yeah. Them just. just dying, I mean people die every day. >> People die every day. Yeah, William Neil McCasland, a retired. US Air Force Major General. He vanished from his New Mexico home in. February 2026, leaving his phone and. identification behind. Well, Santa Claus or Santa Fe, dude?

That takes you back to that question, man. That's a tough one. >> Sure. Yeah, well, somebody let the door. open and the wrong dogs came home. >> I know who it was. It was some of those. pissed warriors from freaking Christian. Dior probably pulled up and wet that. dude down a little. >> [laughter]. >> You create enough of a of a. you know, of a of a stream in the. kitchen, a senior is going to [ __ ]. Yeah. >> Flash flood. >> Oh, a senior does not stand a chance. against a flash flood and I'll say that.

out loud, brother. I'll run into a damn. vineyard vines and scream that. >> Sure, and I'll be receptive to it the. whole time. >> Yeah, yeah. [laughter]. >> I'll be sitting there back there with a. good book just going, "God [gasps] damn. He's right. He's right.". >> You'll poke your head out of a changing. room, be like, >> All right. Never had a chance. >> [laughter]. >> That old [ __ ] never had a chance, bro. >> Yeah, if you slick somebody up like. >> [laughter]. >> and [snorts] I've said this for for.

months. >> there when you said it. >> Yeah, if you slick somebody up good. enough, as anything can be a slip and. slide. So, a staircase, most homes have. a staircase. So, if they're slick. enough, bye. Bye-bye. >> Bye. Grandpa! And he's gone. You can barely. even [ __ ] you know. Or you try to use. his real name then, "Henry!" You know, like that's the craziest thing. Now, a. black grandpa, they'll they'll mill. around a little, but even that the the. stream's even going to get them, you. know? You would think.

>> [laughter]. >> Well, yeah, they you know, they're. probably more worldly and. they'll they'll see the stream. >> [laughter]. >> see the stream maybe before the white. grandpa, but. either way, when the flood comes, come on, man. >> You don't stand a chance, baby. That's. the Bible working. >> Yeah, that's Noah. The pest flood. >> That's it, brother. >> Drip, drip. >> It's scary to think about. >> It's scary to think about, dude. Aw. You're living. uh.

Anyway, you're living in Chicago now, huh? >> Yeah, I I moved from Austin in December. and I lived in St. Louis for 6 months. and now I've been settling in Chicago, yeah. >> How's it been there? >> It's been good. They have a hot dog. culture that is out of this world. Um. relish, mustard, the works. >> Oh, yeah. >> And the people have been treating me. with grace and kindness. >> Mhm. >> And I, in turn, have been uh passing on. to them a smile.

>> Very fair. >> Yeah. >> Did you miss Austin when you left? What. what what what was the reason of leaving. Austin? Cuz you were things were going. good there, right? >> Sure, yeah. Yeah, I worked at uh. Mothership for a year and I. I won uh. the equivalent. I won the Austin's not the funniest. person, but the Austin comedy. competition. So, yeah, I was really. ingrained in the scene there. >> And that was 2021, was it or no? >> When I won that, I moved there in 2021. I think I won that in 2023, maybe.

>> Okay. >> Um but yeah, I have a lot of really. great friends there. I felt like. maybe um it was time for me to do. something else. I'm going to grad. school, so um you wrote me a letter of. recommendation for that. And I'm going to DePaul to do. screenwriting. So, I just wanted to make. some changes in my life, yeah. >> That's wild, dude. Congratulations, man. >> Thanks. >> On getting in over there. You excited. about it? >> I am. It starts in September and then. I'm going to write my great American. novel. >> Dude.

>> Yep. >> Is there a novel that you kind of were. inspired by? Um like was there a novel. that you kind of read that led you to. even kind of spark that in your head? Or. a book that you read that kind of spark. that in your head? Cuz I think like I. like to write so I think there's things. in in like there was one book I read and. I was like, huh? >> Yeah, there's some good like memoir type. books that I really liked. One of them. is. a book called Permanent Midnight by a. guy named Jerry Stahl that they made. into a movie with Ben Stiller. Um, another great one is Sing Backwards.

and Weep by Mark Lanegan who used to be. the lead singer of The Screaming Trees. >> Oh, wow. >> Um, so yeah, some memoirs and then a lot. of like screenplays like obviously I'm a. big fan as most people are of Paul. Thomas Anderson who did. Magnolia and one battle after another. and. >> PTA. >> PTA, yeah. So yeah, I love movies and. >> [laughter]. >> I like movies and I'm just as happy with. a good book. I can't stress that enough. But yeah, I want to learn how to like. write screenplays and stuff like that.

and. I want to be a multi-hyphenate. I want. to be a bad boy and I want to be a. sweetie. >> Mhm. How do you do that I wonder? I'm trying. to think of like a candy that really. presents itself like that. >> Patch Kids. >> You think? Oh, cuz they're kids. >> [laughter]. >> And there's nothing more rotten than a. kid. >> Right, but they're but but they're also. very cherubian. Kids are very. cherubescent. >> Sure. >> They're very much like the angels. They're God's little wiggers or. whatever, right? And so when you add.

that sourness to them you're saying this. is another thing about them and you. might not like it, white boy. >> Right. You might not like it, little piglet. >> Yeah, so I think [laughter] there's a. lot of that that goes on when you. combine stuff like that. There's also. some candies that some people can't even. get through like we had kids that. couldn't handle Gobstoppers or whatever. and they had to move to another school. We'd have you know, and people were. like, you know what I'm saying? Like. they just couldn't they couldn't figure. it out. >> Sure. Well, they it's a lesson in.

patience. It's for me when I think of. Gobstoppers, I think that the line of. demarcation is only visible to those. outside the cultural means of. production. And [laughter]. so. So, it really is Leninism at its most. Stalin gradient, but it's it's. beautiful. So, you can see that's. actually a model of the universe. >> Oh, they call them the Berlin Ball, you. know? That's why, cuz you just you could. There's so much to go through. >> There's so much. >> Which you have to be willing to do it. >> You have to be If you want to get to. that center, which is just plutonium. It.

is um. a yellowcake uranium. Um. so, it'll make you sick as a dog, but. it'll make you grow in ways you should. not. >> Oh, dude, [laughter] I saw a kid who had. to take his shoes off in the middle of. one, cuz they just they were his feet. were popping right out of them. This is. Forever Chemicals. These is I And a lot. of rumors is that that Wonka was working. early with Forever Chemicals. That's. rumor. >> Yeah. >> But, there's a lot of PFAs in there. I. saw a video the other day that people's. grandparents now have PFAs in them, so. they're suggesting like shutting down.

hugs, shutting down. >> [snorts]. >> Yeah, well, the original recipe was. Zyklon B, so it does make people like. It'll make you happy in the moment, but. sad for a lifetime, so. >> Yeah, so it's your choice, bucko. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> You know? You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch, you know? That's what's going on. Short. answer, yes, several popular candies. formerly marketed under the Wonka brand, like Nerds and Laffy Taffy, have. recently tested positive for very high. levels of arsenic. >> [laughter].

>> Thank you, Perplexity, which is a. persistent forever contaminant in the. environment and can accumulate in the. body over time. >> It's not good. >> It's not good. It's not. Is it worth it, though? >> Sure. Yeah. >> They make the candies good. When you're. a kid. and you get the Nerds, or what was it. for you? Was there a candy that you were. like, yeah? >> Um maybe like a Charleston Chew. >> Oh. >> Inside the freezer in a fridge that's. unplugged. So, it's planting this seed.

of like this is getting [laughter]. So, it's like So, like my body's telling. me this is getting colder, but my heart. of hearts is like brother, you know this. is room temp. >> [laughter]. >> Here was an old trick we would use if we. were driving around and doing coke, right? >> Sure. >> We'd fill the glove box with jolly. ranchers, right? So, when the cop pulled. [clears throat] you over, you open that, he sees them all fall out. >> And he goes, uh-oh, sorry fellas. >> [laughter]. >> Be on your way. Sorry, boys. >> Yeah, it was just like it changed the. level of anger and and.

curiosity of the cops. >> Sure. >> It put in a little bit more of a joy. >> Yeah. >> It was a little bit more oh wow, there's. piñatas in here. >> Yeah, these are just a couple of the. candy guys out for a midnight stroll. Well, the the original tagline for Sour. Patch Kids was there is no greater sin. than the sin of being born. So, that is. powerful. >> Well, it's something. I remember. uh sugar honkies unite had that's Well, who had that slogan? Okay?

>> [laughter]. >> Cuz that was a big one. >> Isn't there a candy called Sugar. Daddies? >> Oh, there was. And there's then a. website bought it out. But there was. also sugar ain't got nothing on this. clan. Who had that? Who had [laughter] that, dude? >> The sugar union? Yeah. Oh, no, they're like the Pinkertons. >> Sugar Daddies, that was it, man. >> Oh, they were a thing. And then you eat. a couple of them and you go, I shouldn't. be eating this. >> Yeah. >> You have You have one Sugar Daddy, you. go, I shouldn't be eating this. >> You're right. And then they gave the.

babies away. There was Here's the. craziest part. And this is you going. back to the nuclear family breaking. down. There's never a mother involved, you know? >> [laughter]. >> No. >> Sugar Daddy, Sugar Babies. >> Sure. It was like yeah, the pursuit of. happiness. It was like gorgeous, but. tragic. >> Oh, yeah. It was like I Am Legend or. whatever. It was. >> It's like I, Robot. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> It's very similar to of that, dude. It. was kind of like her with Joaquin. Phoenix. It was just a. just a challenged man dancing around in. a mall.

>> [laughter]. >> Willing to dry hump the air to get a. little sugar in his system. >> The old reboot. Yeah, they called that. the old Milwaukee handshake. Yum. >> Oh god, there's nothing that'll make you. leave your family faster. >> [laughter]. >> than a good bit of sugar. Um. >> I thought, and I hate to default to. riff, I thought surely you were talking. about Wonka being a.

uh progenitor of Forever Chemicals. I. was like, "Oh, surely this is just a. Christmas riff." And then you. >> [laughter]. >> pulled up the paper trail, which. engendered this idea [laughter] that was. very much factual, where the yeah, it is. bad. It's giving people bone stuff. >> [laughter]. >> That's not good. >> Yeah, and the saddest part is the. injuries our grandfathers had real. injuries, like missing a limb from like, you know, he was you know, got drunk and. he was petting a land mine or something.

in Iwo Jima, right? Right? >> Sure. >> Missing his wife, maybe put some of his. wife's clothes on a land mine, got a. little crazy, whatever, lost a limb, lost half of it, you know, lost. something important that had semen. hiding in it. But now it's just some. guy, you know, you see some guy in a. wheelchair and you're like, "What. happened?" He's like, "You know, I you. know, I I I I I had too many Nerd Ropes, you know?" That was something like just. the the the the turnover, the embarrassment of our injuries is. going to start to get real and it's. going to start to get real fast.

>> Oh, yeah. It well, it's already they. call it it's at the event horizon. So, like we can't stop what's coming. We can. only hope to like build a fallout. shelter. But it yeah, I've met some older guys. who thought that like Nerd Clusters were. like basically like a. like a tasty hydrogen bomb. So, it like. looks [laughter]. It looks like the atom like the the base. molecules of human life, but they eat. them and they like [ __ ] their pants and. scream at their family or whatever. >> [laughter]. >> But then the crazy part is they start to.

choose that. >> Yes. >> They choose that behavior. >> Yeah. They don't know any better. >> But it's going to get weird when our. what you know, what happened to you, you. know, and you're like, yeah, I hurt my. back, you know, like I was after years. of plowing or working or whatever doing. trade work or whatever and now it's just. going to be like, you know, after years. of hiding from my wife in the other room. eating whatchamacallits or whatever. Now, you know, I I have a [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> I have a pH balance of a [ __ ]. fluorescent light bulb in a mall, you. know.

>> mitosis. >> [laughter]. >> If you eat What is There's a limit on. the on the package. If you eat more than. five, you get Osmosis Jones. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, so you get like a little guy like. fighting slime crime. >> Ooh, I love that. And I'm guessing that's happening in a. Aussie concerts? >> [laughter]. >> Yes. Yeah, like young blood doing Aussie. covers and then yeah, the whole crowd. it's like Astroworld. They just start. dropping like flies. >> That's hilarious, dude. >> But that's the world we live in. >> [sighs]. >> I guess, if we're really here.

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Fiona. >> She's so funny. >> And um. >> And Matt is her husband. >> Yes. I don't know if I've met him, but I. guess I'll meet him tonight, probably. That's at Zanies. And then Dylan. Carlino, do you know Dylan Carlino? >> Yes, I do know him. He He He's in. Austin. >> Yeah. He is so funny. So, yeah, I like kind of. stopped headlining for a bit and then. got back to doing like some local stuff. I got involved in the St. Louis scene. and I like featured again and. yeah, just kind of started over a little. bit. I'm running a new hour and. it's been good to enjoy doing it, you.

know, when it feels like a job, you get. kind of jaded and it's like I just ever. wanted All I ever wanted was to riff. So, it just things got complicated. >> Yeah. >> Um were you happy with like cuz Kill. Tony was was and is kind of like the. Tonight Show in a way, right? People. would call it that. Kind of like the. Tonight Show, but. you know, a different. like amalgamation of it, right? Or like. a present semi-present day. >> Yeah. >> You know, there's also dark sorcerers. that are involved with it, but it it's.

exactly where we are in the world and. it's great. It's a great show. Did you. feel like being attached to that became. too much or like how did you handle like. the popularity and celebrity because I. would say you were one of the most. popular guys that kind of came through. that system. Um did it feel like that because. um even in my own life and recently like. I've you know, like in the past year. I've thought a lot about like ego and. what is popularity or mean and the value. of it and stuff like that, you know? >> Yeah, well, I think I started to assign. some of myself worth some of myself.

worth in the opinions of others. Not. that I. I would never look at stuff online, but I guess I got too wrapped up in. my sense of self, like the poltergeist. of self. Like what what all of this. meant cuz all I ever did was stand up. for years and years and years. All I did. seven days a week. And then if it wasn't. going well, then I didn't know who I. was, you know? So, yeah, more so than. the Kill Tony thing, um that you know, it gave me a platform and it allowed me.

to do all this stuff. I just tried to take um um. take the good and and not think about. anything else, but. um yeah, I was just really wrapped up in. all this pressure that I was either. misinterpreting or putting on myself and. I didn't. like it. I didn't enjoy doing it. anymore. >> Yeah, and and as you say like when it. wasn't going well, I didn't like myself. kind of. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, dude. I can relate to some of.

that, man. >> Yeah, I felt like and you know, I try to. improvise so much riff um some have. said, many have said, and. if I wasn't able to catch my thoughts. perfectly and that opens the door for so. much pressure on myself. >> Oh. >> Where I was thinking of myself. maybe rightfully so, maybe not, duality, yes, laws of polarity, that I had so. much potential. And so every night I. would go out and I would try to use 100%. of my potential on stage. And I set.

myself up for that, there's no way I can. possibly reach that, which makes it fun. to keep going, makes it always exciting, but I will never be satisfied with it. >> Right. And always set you up for a. little bit of failure in a way. >> Yeah, which a little bit of that is. good. It's good to strive and you know, comedy is a. it's a lifelong thing. um. if that's what you choose to do with. your life. But I came to realize. and in probably in December that there. has to be more to life than this. There.

has to be more than a performative. affect. Um I have to be worth more than what I. think I'm worth to my friends. just as a performer and if my whole. world is wrapped up in the business of. show business then I am doomed to go. spiritually bankrupt. There's nothing. that will ever be enough, you know. So. yeah, I just try it was really nice, you. know, I made a lot of friends that. weren't comedians for the first time in. a long time. >> Wow. >> Um and it was just great, you know,

people who didn't know who I was to know. that I have worth to people like not. being funny. Like I can just go to the. movies and I can talk about movies or we. can kick a soccer ball around, which I. never did. But I could have. >> Yeah. >> And if we had found a soccer ball at any. point in the beginning of the year, I. could have kicked it around. >> [laughter]. >> And it's And it's And that got me going. So, I would wake up every day and I and. I would make myself a promise and it was. firm. And it was if I run into an. unattended soccer ball today.

>> [laughter]. >> or one I could borrow just for the time. being, I will kick it back and forth. with whoever's around. >> Oh, yeah. >> Um. >> I know exactly who you'll kick it back. and forth with. Some victim of who had. too many of those little crackle bars or. whatever and is now in a wheelchair. And the last limb he can move is just. soccer him back and forth with a. stranger passing through. >> And he's to do one of those muscle tests. so he has to hit his knee at the exact. right time. >> And. >> it. >> And he does it himself now. Yeah,

because it's that's his insurance. provider. They mail you the little. hammer with the little triangle and you. do it yourself at home. >> Oh, yeah. That's um. Moderna. Yeah, that's That's Moderna or. Pfizer, I think. >> I mean, I just got a kit the other day. to take a couple cysts off my own body. They'll mail you the scalpel now and all. of the stuff. They mail you a picture of. a nurse, you put that up in the corner. [laughter]. And you do it, man. It's pretty cool. And it. >> And the picture um not to cut you off, but I think that it's one of those. pictures where you look at it one way. and she's beautiful and then you look at.

it the other way and it's a witch. >> Yeah, dude. [laughter]. Yeah, her name's Ramona Lisa's her name. It's an Italian nurse and you can pick. what ethnicity you want the nurse to be. >> Oh, good. >> And it comes with a chocolate, which is. ironic [laughter]. because. that's what got us into this position. >> Exactly, dude. >> And I'm like, okay, I feel like this is. cyclical. >> Yeah, yeah. [laughter]. >> Great. This is what happens when there's. no free healthcare. >> Exactly. >> That's where we are right there. Two. different women. Um and both of those were drawn by.

Christina Mariani as well. Want to let. everybody [laughter] know that. >> On an Etch A Sketch, which is. unbelievable. I've seen Christina do. freehand, which is if you've never seen. someone freehand draw, I highly. recommend it. But [laughter]. >> Well, she's in that she's in that new. musical. It's a one-person musical. >> Yeah, it's a one-woman show she's doing. in Edinburgh. >> I've seen her. >> Yeah, it's it's yeah. >> Yeah, it's by Statesboro, yeah. >> It's in the Delta, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> It's the male version of Statesboro. >> Sure, yeah. It's Statesboro what by way.

of Valdosta. >> Yeah, yeah, [laughter] yeah. >> Yeah, I get That's where I went to. college. I went to college at Georgia. Southern. >> Did you go over there? >> Yes, by Savannah. >> Oh, wow. Were you jealous that you. weren't at Savannah because like you. just being like an like I think you're a. creative and artistic guy. I think. you're one of the most unique guys um. in comedy or I think I don't know if. that's the best thing to say to. somebody. I think it's true, but I think. you just have a unique way of being. alive, which I think is pretty cool. because it's hard to figure that out in. the world. Um.

but did you ever want to be over there. at at Savannah um a SCAD, I think it. was? Yeah. Oh, you'd always hear about. that place in the South. I went to. college in Charleston for a little bit. and you'd always hear about SCAD, like. the people at SCAD, you know. >> Yeah, it was like um ground zero for. guys in scarves. >> Yes, summer scarves too, which is a. rare. >> Oh my god. >> You know what they say, summer scarves. spring winter tears. Um. >> And that's George Orwell as well. >> Yes, that's 1984. That's. so Orwellian, truly a demiurge of.

uh existential pessimism. But that No, I. never I didn't. >> [laughter]. >> And I'm happy that we are bringing up. the tenets of uh the Hermetic Order of. the Golden Dawn, but it has been. [laughter]. It's been a crazy summer. No, I wish I. went to SCAD. I didn't have artistic. inclinations. until I was probably 20. That's when I. um started doing stand-up, but no, I. didn't know. I was more into boozing. So, it was the only school I applied to. And they call it State's Vegas.

>> Mhm. >> And it had some great bars out there. >> Good bar scene. >> Good bar scene. >> Lot of field parties, parties in the. woods, mudding. >> Oh, yeah, a lot of that. So, you got. into that culture. >> Yeah, my mom's a horse trainer. So, I. grew up in North Georgia. Um sort of by the the foothills of. Appalachia, I think. >> Is that like near. uh. LaGrange? No, it starts with an L or a. different letter. >> [laughter]. >> It's Toccoa. That's what I'm thinking of. with a T. Beautiful area.

>> Uh. it's by like Gainesville, by like. Forsyth County. So, like. up there on 400. >> I want to get up there one day. What's. one of the major outputs up there or. like exports? >> I don't even know what they do up there. The commerce isn't exactly bustling. >> Oh, it's not a busy area. >> Well, now it's become it has become like. nicer, like sort of towards like. Alpharetta, where they have that helium. there in Alpharetta. >> Oh, they got free helium up there? >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah, so nitrous will. cost you, but helium's a handshake, and.

that's uh. >> [laughter]. [clears throat]. >> and I do sell stickers that say that, and we're printing them right now. But, no, it's I don't know. When I lived. there, it was really rural. So, anyways, we got into mudding at an early age as. as most kids of my generation did. >> Oh, that's a good way to be it. And did. you feel like cuz you kind of have like. I don't know. You created such like a. unique you, right? And. do you do you ever think like is this. the real me or is this a me that I.

created? Does it ever come to your mind. yet? >> Oh, sure. Yeah, I mean. >> And it's no judgment against you. I've. just had that happen in my own life. recently. I quit like I took a break. from touring, and so much of my life I. didn't realize had been like attached to. well I always have somewhere to go. Well. I got to get going. There's somewhere to. be, there's somewhere I need to be, there's somewhere I'm going to be seen. that's coming up. And then now it's not. really like that and it's okay, but it's. just been interesting to be like. Okay, well say that we're going forever. then what you know who would how would I.

Yeah. What's going on with me, you know? >> Yeah, how would I cuz it is it's a. degree of show business past a certain. point is almost not even like seeking. it's like running. It's like you're. running. You think you're running towards. something but you're running like away. again from this idea that I have just. coined the Poltergeist of self about the. the visage of like who is Casey Rock who. is. this interference pattern of like where. I grew up, what my friends were like. what I like to do and then also this.

person I try to present on stage which. is. you know, it more or less is me. I'm. just having a I'm just let myself be a. goofy guy. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, I mean I have had instances of. like ego death either chemically induced. or just being in a really low period of. depression where. yeah, I I look around and I go what is. all that what is all this for, you know? Um. but if I did have any answer it would be. that the macro mirrors the micro so that. in the little victories of my life.

I figure out my greater purpose like so. it's easier for me now. because I've gotten used to it the first. 6 months of this year of not running. around so much. It's I've been so I've been so much. happier where I I'm just a really. stressed out guy. You know, I get I wear the world really. heavily. So. if I have to do anything like even just. like go to a local showcase it used to. drive me nuts. It ruined my whole day. >> Just the stress and knowing that it's. coming. It's hard to operate. Yeah, some.

people seem to be able to operate kind. of freely even if there's something. looming, you know? Like me I'm already. like, [ __ ] man, my marriage, what will. my wedding day be like? That shit's. going to [ __ ] be. It's going to be hectic. And my If my. wife's here, she's going to be pissed or. whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like. But that [ __ ] will weigh me down. It's. like on a regular Thursday afternoon, dude. [laughter] Not to mention whatever. else I have to do. Or sometimes like. Yeah, that's such a cool way to say it. that you Yeah, it's sometimes a I just. feel like I wear the world heavy. And.

some people it just seems to be like. this like summer solstice, you know? >> Yeah. >> That it's nothing. Like it seems to be. like just like a little baby kite landed. on their shoulder and they just brush it. off, you know? Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. What? Like sometimes I would do wouldn't want. to go to sleep at night because I'd be. like, [ __ ] this is just leading to. tomorrow and it already feels like so. much. >> You know? >> Yeah. >> Not to complain. I'm just I'm also okay. It's just like Yeah, you just think. about this. Sometimes that [ __ ] gets. heavy, you know? >> Yeah. Well, I think that um. professionally and.

just part of our gumption, and I am not. using the correct word when I say that, but uh. we just want You know, we have lives. that are based on creation, right? So. they're. we're engendered to create. And And I. know if I have any down period where I'm. not creating or I don't have to, I feel. like I'm not doing enough. So yeah, it. would drive me batty. I'd be running in. circles chasing my own tail. Um.

but it's nice to do just like regulars. stuff. Like I'll read for a bit and then. cuz I'll get so stressed out about like. nothing. Yeah, I'll be like, man, I got. to. I got to like knock up some barista. Like I got to have a child with like a. barista soon. And then I'll be like, well, who's the. barista? What am I going to name the. kid? >> That's beautiful. And I think it's beautiful, though. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I feel like anytime I go into a. coffee shop, I hope maybe I fall in love. or something like that. I am the kind of. guy who I do think anytime I walk into a. place could be.

gas station, coffee shop, um. you know, tire center, not tire center, but somewhere a place they're going to. have women. >> Surely like a Firestone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like a Firestone, but that's been in. business and that has a little bit of. extra loot to keep a decent looking. broad at the front, you know? >> Like a hostess? >> Yes. >> [laughter]. >> there. Yes. Is there anything more divine than. a greeter at a Firestone Tires? >> And she's standing there and there's. three tires right by her and I'm like, "Hey, baby, let's hit the road, [laughter] you know?" Like. >> I got one in the trunk.

>> Yeah. I got one in the chamber, honey. >> My car is on cinder blocks right now. You got three, I got one, let's start a. life. >> Hey, honey, I put the sin in cinder, you. feel me? Let's get out there. [laughter]. >> I got a pair of cedar tires out back. Pair of cedar Sinai's. >> Oh, dude, that has had to been the worst. tires. Back in like the wagon wheel. days, back when um Little House on the. Prairie was just starting out or. whatever. >> Yeah. >> Um which has a new season out now. Go.

watch it. My friend Crosby Fitzgerald is. in it and. um I've been watching it. Someone caught. me watching it yesterday [laughter] on. my phone at the gym. So, going to go to a different gym now. >> Yeah. >> they'll pull the lunk alarm on your ass. Like at a Planet Fitness. They'll lunk. alarm you to high hell. >> Bring up the lunk alarm cuz I got to. make sure they're still using it, you. know? >> That is one of the better I wish all. places of business had something. comparable to a lunk alarm. >> They used to just yell fatty or. whatever, you know? Or you know, or.

Yeah, they would yell something like. that, you know? >> Bad bones, bone structure. >> Yeah, they used to yell steroid boy or. whatever, but now There we go. They. still have it. >> Dude, he gets it within 20 ft of a. Planet Fitness, they're hitting the lunk. alarm. >> Planet Fitness just outside Chicago. Friday night. Just got done training. some chest, but you know what? >> Jay Cutler from the Chicago Bears. Oh my dear god. >> Wow. They hit him with it. And it's just for somebody that's being,

I guess, overtly. what? >> Strong and in good shape? >> Yeah. >> They They hit that like the Doomsday. Clock was at 1 minute to midnight. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, dude. This is some people's Y2K, dude. >> Yeah. That causes splinter of effect. that effectively ruined Reaganomics. >> [laughter]. >> Well, here's the crazy part is, dude. That guy like Now, we don't even realize. it. They're getting us to think that. being in shape is bad, right? It's all. this slow, let me turn the dial a little.

different, right? Let me just mess with. the opportunities here a little. That's how they're doing it, man. Um. >> Yeah, it's planting bad seeds. >> But cedar cyanide, dude, those. If you got cedar cyanide wheels on a. wagon. >> Yeah. >> That was the worst, dude. >> It was Yeah, it was terminal. It was. like having a fleas like within your. like roost, yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's so brilliant. It's a fox in a. chicken coop situation. So, they just go.

wild. >> But it's built in. Imagine you get fresh. cedar wagon wheels and they have cyanide. in them. And they're like People be. like, "These are cedar cyanide." You're. like, "Yeah, it's the best we have right. now.". >> It's all we have if you want to go take. the route through the Sierra Nevadas. You're going to have to get this before. the fall comes like the Donner party. >> Yeah, yeah. [laughter]. >> But you just had to do what you had to. do for your family back then. Families. were tougher. >> Well, things have just changed, man. I. mean, now you would have a Jeffrey. Dahmer whatever footwear, you know? He. would have a shoe. >> Yeah, well, Charles Bukowski should be.

sold to a rich family as a midwife. >> [laughter]. >> I've said that for Oh my god, yeah. >> Look, we are becoming new slaves. That's. what I've been I've been saying that. Get [clears throat] the F, dude. >> You're on a chain gang. Yeah, you're. making license plates. That is just what. the prison industrial complex is, so. >> [laughter]. >> I am happy that there is a problem. endemic to the state of Alabama that I'm. happy we could bring up. There's a. documentary called the Alabama problem, so. >> Is there? >> Yeah, it's on HBO Max. >> I haven't seen that one, but I have seen.

the one about the mall that's kind of. going out of business. Have you seen. that one? >> About the death of the American mall? >> Yeah. But this one is a specific mall in. Alabama. Bring that up. This is a great. documentary. If you want to if it's. raining or something and you want to. watch something. >> I think I saw the trailer for it. >> Jasper Mall. It see if it officially closed or not. >> Man, this was pretty cool, dude. That's. a it's a good documentary. It's. it's enclosed. >> Or is it closed? >> Yeah. >> It's not a lot there. Um, Rural King.

Well, that's good. They replaced it with. a Rural King, which is what they're. going to do for our nuclear families, too. >> Well, that's it's just where we're. going. It's like when uh this uh J.C. Penney closes doors there. But um. >> Right. >> But yeah, that documentary's pretty. good, man. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. We talk about mental health more openly. now. But asking for help can still feel hard. And BetterHelp's latest research. confirms that.

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betterhelp.com/theo. That's betterhelp.com/theo. Have you Have you kept in touch with a a. lot of the people from Austin still or. did you kind of like take like a break. from the communication there? Like um. >> Um no, I still talked to I had to go. back in May and I did my last um show at. Creek and Cave and Creek's always been. really great to me. I um I'm going back on the 1st of uh. well, I'm going back soon. There's a.

special event. I don't want to spoil it, but I'm going back. Um. So, yeah, I talked to a lot of my really. good friends from Mothership. You know, we were all door guys together. So, um I. chat with them on the phone and yeah, part of like um. changing my life and I have no qualms in. saying this, but I'm sober and I and. that's a part of my life and um part of. that for me just means being um there. for my friends. So, like every day I'll. like call a friend and stuff that I. would do I guess when I was younger in. the pre-social media age. You know, so I'll call people and.

feel like all these kids are on their. [ __ ] phones now. >> Yeah, I think that's popular. >> Sure. >> Um but but not Nobody calls anymore. >> I I agree. You know what that's a good. thought. Sometimes I've I've certainly gotten. away from texting and I'd rather just. send a voice note. I think that's better. at least if you can kind of get a feel. what's going on. And even then like I. will enjoy a call and I think honestly. some people appreciate it. It's like. >> Yeah. >> And I think you just have to establish.

if you want like hey, that's where I'm. at in my life. I want to hear my. friend's voice, you know, like I want to. know I want to have some semblance just. in what they're saying or how their. energy is as to how they're really. feeling because that's what that's what. we're based on. You can't pick it up. through text. It's pretty much. impossible. So. >> No. >> And that that's just a little bit of the. tuning of the dial. It's like where. we're at, where the future's taking us. It feels kind of scary. >> Yeah, some of that is lost. Yeah. >> Yeah. I feel like I operated better too. before as a person before uh technology.

got too bonkers. Because I used to like. to daydream even though a lot of it had. dangerous Voldemortian. people in there like even though there. was like a lot of pillaging of our home. in a lot of my daydreams. It was still. like it was a chance for my mind to. rattle on a little. >> Yeah. >> So my mind didn't always feel like it. was so attached to me. I did like the. time when you had more space just to. kind of daydream and your mind got to. like.

>> [sighs]. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Exhale. >> You know, I do that a lot when I'm. driving. So you're saying you would. daydream in a way. that was like the last bastion of free. speech. um for a um mind of uh Cut this part. out. Cut this [ __ ] part out. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> My [ __ ] would be pretty lit. Frederick. Douglass would show up at some of my. daydreams like. >> Sure.

>> There was always someone at the pulpit. >> Yeah. >> To let you know the type of energy that. was there. It was life or death. There. were trials that were going on. Like it. was very [laughter]. Salem witchy-an, you know? >> Oh, sure. It's like The Crucible. Keep. that part. >> [laughter]. >> It was like The Crucible kind of meets. McDonald's kind of. >> Sure. So if Grimace was like judge, jury, and executioner, which he often is. in so many of our afterlives as I come. to understand it. Grimace is like a. tulpa and um of He's like an.

amalgamation, like a transmogrification. of St. Michael. >> So Is that what people are saying? >> Yeah, he's like a figurehead for like. this. >> [laughter]. >> for like this demigod we know as Saint. Michael when he lets you in it is just a. big pool of creamy chili sauce. >> Oh, good. I know I've prayed to him before for new. condiments. It's a. >> That's him answering prayer. >> Okay, there [laughter] you go, dude. But. dude, this is where we're heading. People don't want to look at the signs. that like there are children who go to.

bed and you will wake up in the morning. and they'll piss the perfect shape of. Grimace in their their sheets. Like moms. are like, "Oh, that's nothing. It's just. 100 nights in a row of that." Like. nobody's connecting the dots of where. we're going. >> No, like that you piss the Shroud of. Turin. Like. >> [laughter]. >> You pissed a perfect exact Gollum. of [clears throat] things come to pass. >> Dude, yeah. I know they cracked some kid. open and he had 11 scenes from The. Patriot with Mel Gibson inside of him.

It's like. >> And Heath Ledger. >> Yeah, I know. [laughter]. >> It Yeah, it was my understanding it was. just the Gibson scenes. So, there was no. Heath Ledger which is like, "Okay, what. is this? The director's cut?" So. >> is this? And then he just screamed aim. small, miss small and disappeared into. the ether. It's just where we are. Um. you mentioned What do you want to say? >> No, I'm just kind of just like coming to. terms with some of that. Cuz it is it's an absolute, you know, and my will like my will's greater than.

myself, you know, I have a higher. purpose and some of that is Grimace like. putting a kid in a wood chipper. >> Yeah. I remember when we were in school. and some kids didn't understand how the. greater than or less than signs worked. and we weren't allowed to those kids and. [laughter] that always kind of made me. upset. >> I don't know. I'm not even trying to get. into some of that stuff, but. >> Yeah, facts. >> I don't know my times tables. >> Oh, yeah. Well. >> What do we do? Where do we go from here? >> You're right, dude. And it's weird if. I'm willing to give you a pass, but I'm. not willing to give them, you know?

>> Sure. >> Well, it's not a meritocracy, you know? >> It was. >> It was in a perfect world [laughter]. when Tolstoy was kicking around with. Dostoevsky. It was doing Downton. >> Abbey was doing their [ __ ] when that. [ __ ] was popping. >> Oh, yeah. When they Oh my god, me and my. boys, we would sit down every Downton. Abbey Tuesday. >> It was good, dude. >> It was so good. >> [ __ ] season of it? >> So good. >> God, I wanted to be a butler. I'd be a. butler's son or whatever. >> Yeah, just to be grandfathered into the.

butler trade would be such a blessing. >> And the butler comes walking in, he's. like, "Gregory's gay." You know, and. you're like, "What?". >> He [snorts] told you in confidence? >> Dude, dude, just get the dishes. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Leave your son out of this. That guy was. so good, bro. >> Yeah. It's weird to see him like that, not sleeping standing up in a closet. Cuz. >> [laughter]. >> Well, he was a stunt double in a lot of. coffins. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> And people don't give him any credit,

you know? >> No. >> What was his name? That guy was a great. actor. >> He looks like the guy who did the. Wilhelm scream. You know what I'm. talking about? The Wilhelm scream. >> won the contest? >> There's something called the Wilhelm. scream, which is this scream they use in. like a million different movies. >> Mhm. >> You would recognize it if you play it. >> Jim Carter. >> I think he's the guy who does that. special special scream from the golden. age of Hollywood. >> Well, let's let's look that up, the. Wilhelm scream.

Um say it again? >> [screaming]. [laughter]. >> You sure? That sounds like Wilhelm Memphis. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Where is that from? >> Yeah, that's Beale Street. If Beale. Street could talk, >> [laughter]. >> it would sound like that. Wow. So, yeah, that guy did that, and then I. guess he had to go to court to get like. uh his residuals from it. >> You really? >> So, that scream there they're calling it.

the the scream of hope. So, it was one. of the first famous. >> of hope? Are you serious? >> So, yeah, it's like a symbol. It's. [laughter] like. >> How bad has it gotten? >> Well, it's like, you know, like South. Africa used Rodriguez and his albums to. like fight against apartheid. So, like. this is the American version of that. >> Yeah, I remember in Tyler Perry's. Mandela goes to jail, I think. >> [laughter]. >> Exactly. Exactly. So, Sheb Wooley was.

the stage name of that old old guy who. lived in the closet. And he just did. this he did this [laughter] special. scream that became like a message of. hope. >> Oh, I love hearing this. And this is. says it right here and this says the. famous Wilhelm scream was originally. voiced by actor musician Sheb Wooley in. 1951. It was recorded for the movie. Distant Drums for a scene where a man is. bitten and dragged underwater by an. alligator. Play one more time and let's. put it let's put it where it belongs in. our heads. >> [screaming].

[laughter]. >> Oh, he gay, bro. That's all I'm saying, bro. >> He's a friend of Dorothy. >> Yeah, yeah, let's just say he's a friend. of Dorothy. >> That's what they used to say. >> Or yeah, he's a Toto owner. >> Sure. >> Yeah, people would say that. Have [laughter] you seen that guy in. Austin? >> He got a Toto? >> Who goes on the streets and he's like, you think this guy's gay, man? Have you. seen those videos? >> No. >> Oh my god. >> Uh-uh. >> Pull this up. This is worth watching, dude. This is one of the best things. that's ever happened, I think.

And it just goes to show how men are. obsessed. with. um. with pointing the 11th finger at each. other. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, they're making a call to the. bullpen, but nobody's showing up. >> Yeah. >> Sure. >> You know what I'm talking about, Trev? >> Yeah, we. >> Have you ever seen Elijah Wood? Um he. rides around Austin on a little scooter. sometimes. >> No, but I would believe that. >> I know, right? >> And I hope that happens.

>> Me too. I hope that for the rest of the. world and the rest of today. >> Well, here's what we should do. We. should see if. >> one day in Austin that changed. everything. >> [laughter]. >> Okay. So, this is how rumors get started. here. And let's go into this. Let's click on. this. This is a picture for those at. home of Elijah Wood on a Bird scooter. >> Oh my god, he's ripping a heater. >> [ __ ] yeah, he is, dude. >> pro-union, ripping a heater. >> Bro, he saved the whole freaking world. >> The guy that changed everything. He's. got a thousand-yard stare that's staring.

into the future of American society. >> He's hunting Gollums, dude. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, he's hunting the Nephilim. He's. the watcher. >> Yeah, dude. Oh, definitely. He's got his. ball certificates out. Um. Can you What did that say? Did it say. anything else about him on that? That's. crazy. And did you see him when you were. there? >> I have never seen something like this in. person. It's by Evil Mopac. So, this is Yeah, this is spell work right here. This is. deep. [laughter]. Why'd you I spell work I told you equals.

magic. I [ __ ] told you. >> Oh. >> This is an incantation. >> Despite my joke ways online, I actually. quite miserly with my laughs. It's just. how I was paved. But when something gets. me, it really gets me. So, on the. fateful day when I saw the most. quintessential 2018 Austin photo humanly. possible pop into my Twitter timeline, I. was reduced to a queave. >> Okay, Lovecraft. What are all these. adjectives? [laughter]. >> This is just some [ __ ] Overwatch. addict putting this [ __ ] together. Can. you zoom down a little? >> [laughter]. >> Does this say anything else after that. part? Oh, that's it. Oh, they have to.

pay to read it. Come on. >> it was taken in September 2018 in. Austin, Texas while attending the. Fantastic Festival. He tried out the. app-based rental scooter Lime for the. first time while holding a cigarette. >> Oh, that's pretty cool. >> That is so cool. This is like pictures. taken moments before tragedy. >> Let's hope not. I mean, well actually it. would be he's fine, so it's not. >> He He avoided his destiny. >> Yeah, we're not casting anything. That's. the only thing I don't want to cast. anything. >> No. >> [snorts]. >> No, no, no, no, no.

>> to do any spell work. >> No, and we and we don't have to and I I. don't do talismanic magic. It's my. understanding neither does Elijah Wood, so. >> But I saw you brought something. I saw. you a little thing a bag of hair or. whatever. What's that for? >> Yeah, sure. So that's spare hair. So um. that's hair care. Um it's part of my. self-care routine. So if anyone. while I'm talking to them says like hey, a big clump of your hair just fell out. >> You're ready to go? >> Yeah, I'll be like, oh thank you. First. of all, thanks for holding space for. that. Um. >> [laughter]. >> second of all, do you have any Elmer's. glue? So yeah, it allows me to kind of.

like keep my hairline like how I want. it, so. >> Yeah, it looks great. >> Thanks, yeah. >> And I think if someone mails you their. hair and you care for it. >> It's everything. >> I mean, that's. >> [laughter]. >> crazy, dude. >> That's what fatherhood means to me. It's like having a son who's bald as a. baby like Caillou or like Franklin the. Turtle. >> [laughter]. >> and then just getting a big old glob of. mush and just. smooching it on top of that freaking. think tank. >> What? One time we were on a cruise ship.

Not one of the ones that like you've. sinking or has like [ __ ] floating on it. or whatever this Netflix keeps. advertising, but one of the regular. ones. We were on there and we had. Halloween, but we didn't have any. costume store. So some guy would sold a. bunch of his pubic hair and people were. like gluing it on with honey as mustache. and stuff. So everybody could be like. the husband from um. >> [laughter]. >> Everybody could be Sam Elliott. >> Oh, that's so cool. >> Let's play this video right here. >> [laughter].

>> Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? >> You think people going to think that? >> I think most people will, but I don't. know. >> Like he gay straight. He got a little like he gay in the. [ __ ]. He got booty parted [ __ ]. Why you say that? >> That [ __ ] got this little like gay ass. outfit on like it's Halloween and [ __ ]. Like, what the [ __ ] you try to do, [ __ ]. >> All right, you gay or straight? >> I'm straight as a [ __ ]. >> You think other people going to think. that? >> Like, they going to know that. >> Feel like he gay or straight. >> [ __ ] gay as a [ __ ]. >> Why you say that? >> Look at that dumb ass hair. [ __ ] all right.

>> You gay or straight? >> Straight, bro. What's up? >> You think other people going to think. that? >> Feel like he gay or straight. >> That's a small man. >> Why you say that? >> Because, look at him. >> You gay or straight? ALL RIGHT, [ __ ]. >> ALL RIGHT, LOOK AT HIM. >> I'M STRAIGHT. >> YOU THINK other people going to think. that? >> Hey, baby. >> [laughter]. >> They better. >> Feel like he gay or straight. >> That [ __ ] is gay as [ __ ]. >> Every time, dude. >> Why you say that? >> Look how this [ __ ] is in here. What the [ __ ] That [ __ ] popped up like. a little bad [ __ ]. >> You gay or straight? >> I'm straight as a a pencil. >> Bro, you think other people going to. think that?

>> Hell yeah. >> You feel like he gay or straight? >> He could be bisexual. >> Facts. >> Why you say that? >> Everybody bisexual. >> Nah. YOU GAY OR STRAIGHT? >> I DON'T CARE WHAT the [ __ ] they think. They should kiss my ass. >> Feel like he gay or straight. >> Gay as [ __ ]. >> Why you say that? >> What the [ __ ] is he wearing, [ __ ]. >> Who is that John Jones? Who is this? >> That's Bon's Jones. >> You think other people. >> Is that Indiana John Jones, dude? Who. the. >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ] is that? George Jones, Joe. >> That's good. Yeah. That's uh pretty.

cool. That was a cool outfit. I'd like. to get to a place. in comfortability and. metaphysical wellness where I could wear. a chain around my neck with a lock on. it. >> Yeah, I think you could [laughter] do. it, dude. >> I think I could pull it off. I used to. paint my nails and then I would go to. rehab like a week later. >> Oh, yeah. It happened. >> [laughter]. >> It happened several times in my adult. life. I would paint my nails like, you. know, twirling my hair, talking on a. corded phone, like paint my nails. And. then I'd wake up like a couple days. later and I was like, I need help. >> Yeah.

>> [laughter]. >> I was like, I'm being fashion forward, but I am turning the clock back. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, you're a [ __ ] just a little leap. year, you were. >> Yeah, I'm a leap year baby. I have. Benjamin Button's disease, but I'm right. in the middle between young and old, so. I'm normal. >> Mhm. >> Brutal. >> Oh. Um so so Brody, so you did you. uh. can I ask you something about it? >> Mhm. >> How has it been? Um was there a like a a. point that you got was it like drinking. was it or was it just like you were just.

feeling like disconnected from your own. life and and congrats on uh having the. wherewithal to like try something new. Like even just to. be like, "Okay, I've been in Austin. This is what's going on. I'm going to. try something new." It's some It's so. hard to come to that conclusion for some. of us. >> Yeah. Well, um. I struggled with those things since I. was a kid and I would have long. stretches of sobriety. Um. when I was younger, it would be alcohol. and then um where I grew up in Georgia,

um. it would has I was in high school during. like the Purdue Pharmaceuticals like. that all that stuff. >> Oh, really? >> Um so a lot of my friends um got. addicted to like OxyContin and stuff. like that. Um so yeah, so like that I. was exposed to um drug use like that. when I was younger, so um off and on and. mostly I. would sometimes go back to it when I. couldn't deal with pressure. You know, there's a lot of excuses for things like. that. Um.

but yeah, it gotten to a point where I. no longer wanted to do comedy. I no. longer wanted to really do anything. I. just felt like almost not like I had. wasted my life cuz I love what I do and. I I really like getting to meet people. and I love make people happy. But it got. to be too much when coupled with um. a habit that I had developed of various. um drugs and alcohol and things like. that. >> Yeah. >> Um where I was like something has to. change. Like something has to change. I.

I had Right, so you got to that point. something has to change. >> Yeah. I had resigned myself to the idea. of a certain death, and that did not. scare me. It would have been um I looked. at it at that point as some sort of like. welcomed relief. Like I had gone past. the point of. anyone being able to help me or me being. able to help myself. And then, when I. did reach out and I did seek some help. for that stuff, um I realized that that's not what I. wanted at all. What I really wanted was. to figure out a better way to live. >> Mhm. >> That I really just wanted to have some.

peace in my life that I knew, even in. the throws of it, was not being given to me by drugs and. alcohol. It was the opposite of that. It. was making my life a thousand times. worse. >> Ooh. >> And by um yeah, I've been able to cut so. much guff out of my life, so much guff. and slime. And. I'm able to look around today and I know. that uh I don't have any I don't live in. shame about my life. I don't do th- I. don't say things to thing.

I don't say things to people I don't. mean. >> Mhm. >> I don't hurt my friends' feelings. I can. be a better partner. I can kick a soccer. ball. I can uh. >> [laughter]. >> It's basically it was soccer ball-based. So, I looked around and I was like, "You. know what? This house is missing. a. a soccer ball." And then I caught a. glimpse of myself in the mirror and I. said, "You're in no condition to kick a. soccer ball. >> [laughter]. >> You're going to hurt somebody." Um. But it's just really basic things, you. know, I wanted to be involved again. I. wanted to be in the stream of of life.

And. >> Yeah, dude. >> It's been so beautiful. I'm just so. happy, and I don't think it's a. temporary happiness. I think it'll be. sustained if I continue to work on. myself. >> I know, huh? >> Yeah. >> Are you able to look and see uh congrats. to you, man. I know it's not like a. thing that it's like is it a congrats. thing, but it's a it when you think. about our world to take a break from. anything. >> Yeah. >> and make a commitment to take a break. from something. >> Mhm. and do it, it's tough.

>> Oh my gosh, yeah. >> for any of us. We're all We're There's. so many ways to get addicted to distract. ourselves from us. >> Absolutely. It's a It's a diseased. thinking of I'm I'm constantly cuz you. know, I can do with all kinds of things. I I would spend too much money. I would. I would gamble. I would do these things. that on paper seem like a lesser. thing than. the usage of substances. And they are, but it's all just a symptom of a greater. I want to distract myself and I and I. want instant thrills that are followed.

by continuing to chase that thing. Yeah. >> What team were you betting on, too? Cuz. I'll tell you what I've been on it. >> I never did sports betting. I and I. didn't lose I don't think I have like a. gambling addiction, but I I would I. would go and I don't gamble anymore, I'll say that. >> I'll bet. >> do slots. >> Oh, you do slots, yeah? >> spins. $5 spin, have a slap at the pokies. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> I would love, dude, to times I like this. time I didn't I was just in Las Vegas, but I would I'd like to slip down there. at night when nobody would be around and.

I'd sit there and play some slots, just. putting in 20 bucks, 40 bucks. >> Yeah, yeah. >> You know, and just [ __ ] try to get a. little bit of money out of China. >> [laughter]. >> You know, I'd yell at the machine. I'd. be like, "We're going to [ __ ] get. your cash, you know?". >> We're coming, Beijing. >> Yeah, we're coming, dude. >> Congratulations. Poor boy. >> Yeah. >> You've popped the pig big. The The It's. It's [laughter] so funny cuz it will. give you and this is not a bit. Heaven. forbid I do a bit. But it'll be like,

"Congrajudention. Congribidibus. You've won. You've been awarded dollar.". Like you won a dollar, like a singular. Judeo-Christian dollar. >> And they sound it out. It takes for And. you're like, "Fuck, dude, if I would. have just called it a way even I could. just [ __ ] taken a call on a phone and. asked them for $2. I would have made. more money doing something else. >> You've been accepted into the winner. circle. Press B to trust.

>> And [laughter] then you. like press B and then it's $1.47. and you're like, "Okay, I'm betting $5. You just told me I lost. >> Yeah, and it's like, "Oh, you've won the. deceased sibling round. We're going to. bring back Anna Marie." And you're like, "Oh my god, my sister's back. My. sister's back.". >> [laughter]. >> But it's so funny and they're like. >> But that's how it's going to get. Don't. you see where we're going? >> That's I mean, that's going to be in our. freaking textbooks one of these days. >> You're going to have to go to the win or.

encore or you're going to have to go to. dragon's beard or whatever the casinos. will be named then, you know, or. faggot's realm or whatever they're. called, right? You're going to have to. go to some of these places. Sorry. >> Yes, go to the circus of life. >> Or Trump's nuts or whatever the whatever. the casinos are going to be called. You're going to have to go there in the. Biden's Oculus, right? You're going to. have to go there and they'll be like, you know, if get four spins and you'll. see your father, you know, and that's. really what it's going to be like. >> Yes, and you have to keep playing.

You're you will use your social credit. score to go have a round of spins at. John Carpenter's cigarette burns and you. will be lucky to walk out with a. talisman. >> [laughter]. >> Or an amulet of any repute. >> Yeah, dude. >> It's brutal and it's so I always just. think it's so funny how they'll be like, "Gar gar gar gar gar. You've awarded the. pig some hooves." And then they'll just. like print you out one US dollar. Yeah.

>> [laughter]. [snorts]. >> Yeah, dude. >> [gasps]. >> What do we I mean, where do we go from. here, you know? >> Um, what are some things that you feel. like. cuz like I'll go to meetings. I'm going. to go to a meeting probably whenever I. get done with this today. Um what are some things that the. meetings do for you? Do you notice. something like that over time? >> Yeah. Um. >> Like going to recovery meetings. There's. a lot of 12-step meetings out there, you.

know. >> Sure. I went this morning in Nashville. I like to um. at the at a very. >> go to that 7:30 meeting over there? >> No, it was at um a sober living in. Nashville at 11:30. >> But. at the at a very base level, what I can. say is that I have never ever walked out. of one feeling worse than I was walking. in. I will always, even if there's two. other people in there and I've been to. plenty of things like that, um newer.

meetings or smaller towns. Um I'll always hear something that. relates to my life or relates to how I. want to have my life be. So, it's just I. like to meet random people, too. It's. like makes me uncomfortable. And then when I leave, I feel like I did. something good cuz I know it's good for. me. >> And I know I need it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, it kind of cultivates a part. of you that you can't even access. Like. I think for me like I share in meetings. I try to share um most of the meetings. that I go to. Um and I always wonder kind of why. It's. like.

uh. And then I was like, oh well, when I was. a kid, I didn't there wasn't like a. place that was safe where I could speak. up, right? Like at our house, you. couldn't speak up. Nobody cared how you. felt. There wasn't even I didn't even. know I had any feelings except that I. wasn't feeling good. >> Sure. >> And it was like nobody and that was our. whole like system at home. >> Yeah. [snorts]. >> And so like sometimes when I go in. there, it's like. well, this is a place that's safe enough. where I can speak up even if I don't. know exactly what I'm going to say or. how exactly I feel. It gives me like a. little bit of space to explore it. So,

it's almost like sometimes I feel like. I'm it's almost like the kid me or the. younger me that's in there that's kind. of like I mean, it's an adult me, but it. kind of like um it helps me honor a. little bit of that. Like here's this. younger me that never got to speak up. So, in here today, I'm going to sit here. with you and we're going to see you I'm. saying we're going to speak up for. ourselves. >> Yeah, that that is really beautiful. I. can definitely um. identify with some of those um. sentiments from feeling like a bit. voiceless when I was younger. Yeah, it. is it's so nice to anytime I've I'll try.

to like prepare something smart to say, it'll be like you're a bum you're a. troglodyte. Like, I'm a mute. >> [laughter]. >> I'm a mute, deaf, speechless. But, I'm. like, it's summer's summer's hard. And. they're like, What the who what are you? Not even who are you, what are you and. why? The big three. Um. >> Then when somebody will share something. in there and that you've been wanting to. say your whole life or hear. >> Yes. Yeah. >> and you'll finally hear it or or and. you're like, oh, I feel like a part of. me like will almost like the locks will. like turn and a new door will open.

>> Yeah, you feel like a weight has been I. can't even describe how it feels. Like, really get involved in that stuff and. um it it's so crazy. It makes you feel. like you know, I'm of the belief that. the universe is all mental and it it. unfolds just for us, you know, how can. it not? Our life experiences are. designated and interpreted solely for us. and. when I'm in there almost every time. something will happen that's so kismet. or a synchronicity and you'll hear.

something you were just thinking about. or something that's upcoming you've been. worried about. And you're like, what are. the odds of that? And it happens almost. every day where you're like, I'm on the. right path, you know? When you do the. right things, you get the right things. It might not be the things you want, but. the things that you need at least. >> And the little things you hear in there, man. >> Yeah. >> The little things like uh contrary. action. Like, there's a lot of times I. won't won't want to if I don't want to. do something. >> Mhm. >> unless it's for like a reason where. there's like safety concern or something. like that, then I need to consider. trying to go do it. Like, I don't really.

need to do this yoga. I don't really. need to go and like walk over to from. neighbor's and drop this off. Just. little it's cuz there's a darker part of. me that wants to me to be by myself that. wants me to stay like isolated and sit. and think and ponder about everything. And and just learning those things. And. eventually, I have to learn things a. lot, >> right? >> I have to learn things a lot. It's like. my forgetter is really big. It's like. It's almost like when I wake up in the. morning, it's like. there's a part of me that's forgotten if. people care about me, that's forgotten.

if I care about me, you know, it's not. exact, but there's a lot of like. Somebody comes in almost at night and. cleans like the dry erase boards, you. know? >> I need to be reminded that. I matter. And at a bigger level, other. people matter more than me. Yeah. Other. people matters, you know, I was the. I was the main actor in my life for so. long, and it was all how things were. affecting me and what I was doing. And. it's so nice to. yeah, just genuinely give a [ __ ] about. other people.

>> Dude, some of the my best moments are. the my moments are my favorites. Or if I wake up and my first thought my. first thought about somebody else, that's almost like, God, thank you. Or. if I'm just driving and I have to. remember something somebody had said. yesterday, like, oh, I'm going to call. them and check them on them about that. Or something somebody cared about, and I. was like, oh, let me see how that played. out for them. The more those I get, like, the better it feels. >> Yeah, cuz we're meant we're meant to. have community. In my mind, it's the. same thing. It'll It's so much easier. There's a million other things I could.

be doing for an hour in a day than doing. that. But when I'm alone, if I make an excuse like that, I'll make. another excuse, you know? And I'll make. another excuse, and it may not lead to. drug use, but it definitely will lead to. me having a sadder life. And at the very. least, I don't want that. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's so. >> And it's like I just remember people. care about me. I walk into a meeting and. I'm like, oh, yeah. Dude, I remember And it's not that I. forgot them or anything, but it's just. like I have to have this thing.

replenished. That's like, yes, your. heart works, you work, you're okay, things are okay, there might be. problems, but they're not that big, and. everything's going to be okay. It's. almost like you just like. I don't know. It's like church It. definitely is like church. Some people. are like, do you go to church? And it's. like, I don't go to church every week, but in a way I go to church four or five. times a week. Yeah. You know? And you. feel it. And you feel it. >> Yeah. Like I walk out of there, I'm. like, okay, if I'm the like. I mean, there's some days when it's.

rough. If somebody sit on their phone. next to me the whole meeting, dude. >> Or there's a kid running around, God. forbid. A little Christmas kid. You can. tell it's like a New Year's Eve baby. >> Yeah, and he's like, my birthday's. coming up or whatever, and I'm like. >> no, it's not. No, [laughter] it's not. We're in July. I can tell you're a New Year's Eve baby. Get the hell out of here with your. holiday spirits. >> [laughter]. >> Um. But no, man, I think that community's. great. What do you think if there's. somebody who's scared to try to go to a. first meeting, you know? I'll have. friends that'll ask me sometimes about. like. or what do you say to somebody who's.

thinking like, maybe I might be. struggling with this, you know? >> Sure. Um. Well, something that I go back to is. that it's just so nice to be around. people who. I I I You know, there's a saying uh. there's saying of uh terminal uniqueness. that makes people continue to struggle. That we think that we're so different in. our suffering. That we're put on this. earth just to suffer, and who am I to. say if that's not the case, but. everything you've been through has. meaning. And of course it has meaning to. you, but it doesn't really have that.

much helpful meaning to you, the things. that you've gone through that are really. bad. Ruminating on that does not help, but. when you put it out of you. and and you see that it helps someone, even just for a day, like being around. people who also hurt that way, it's just. an incredible feeling. It's not a chore. It's not something you have to go do. It's something I look forward to doing. >> Yeah. >> Cuz it's so nice to look around and go, oh my god, I'm not this little freak. Yeah. I'm not this little guy that God. forgot, you know? I'm someone that has. purpose, even if it's just for today. I.

can have a purpose of hanging out with. these people and. I know that when I'm in there I feel. better. Just for even if it's just for. that hour, even if I leave and I get. back and I feel like [ __ ] again and I'm. going a little crazy and I'm riffing a. little too hard about the wrong things. in my little brain. Um. It's a safe place. Like and I hate to. use that term, but it's you know places. like that are just it's somewhere. completely free of judgment. It's so. beautiful. Yeah. It's so beautiful and. there's nothing else like it. >> I agree. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it's crazy sometimes when people.

like, "Hey, do we come do this?" I'm. like, "Nah, I don't know if I'm doing. that, you know? I don't know if I'm. driving over to meet you at a. Whataburger or something, you know?". Just because they're popping off cuz. it's new or whatever and the seats are. clean or whatever still. >> Yeah, I'm not going animal style. You. can't make me. >> Yeah, but you're like, "Hey, you want to. drive 20 minutes across town to go to. like this 11:30 a.m. like meeting? It's. going to be mostly older folks in this. church." And I'm like, "Dude, yeah. That. [ __ ] sounds popping.". >> I dig wisdom. I Dude, I love to talk to. some old farmer. Ooh wee! I get off on talking to an old.

farmer. >> Our plants got to aids. You're like, "I. don't know if that's what happened.". >> He goes, "When my arm's crying, I got to. feed it.". >> [laughter]. >> "When that baby's crying, I got to feed. it." And you go, "Hell yeah.". >> "Don't come on my back and tell me it's. raining, you know?" [ __ ] like that. You're like, "Yeah.". >> [laughter]. >> People always have crazy quotes. Um but no, man. It's definitely like. I don't know. And it's there for you. It's like if you if you have a tough. time, if you leave if you come in or.

out, the meetings are there and you can. go back, right? >> Yeah. >> Um. >> It's just so nice to like something that. really sat with me this last go around. when I was trying to get my life. together again is just the simple. thought that I don't have to live like. that. Like whatever is making me feel. like my life is. for want of a better term, escalating. towards some terminal velocity where. I've had so many times in my life where. I feel like this is going to end bad. I'm either I'm, you know, I'm working. too much or I'm worried about the wrong.

[ __ ] or I'm, you know, I'm using again. and I know it's going to end bad. And to. know I don't ever have to feel like that. again cuz I know that I'm in control of. my emotions now and it's. so [snorts] great. I like to let. yourself have peace. It's so hard. It's. like the hardest thing in life. >> is it hard, man? >> That's such a fascinating thing. I have. never heard it said like that. To let. yourself have peace. Yeah, like I don't. want to let myself have peace, man. It's. like.

or I don't know if I don't think or I'm. not saying I don't but it's like that. would be the like yeah, I don't do I not. deserve like what is that? >> I I don't know if it's something just. the way that we're wired where. >> Cuz that's it. That's some of the wiring. is right there. Why won't I let myself. have peace? I have friends that are that. like. And I've struggled. I've had some tough. years over, you know, over the years for. sure and. uh but I've had some friends that. won't won't won't get close to it, you. know? >> Yeah. >> Won't try to get close to the fire. They. want to just keep keep trying to do it.

>> What's familiar. >> It's familiar and there's a thing of. like I'll figure this out. You know what. I'm saying? Like. like. >> I've gotten myself this far. >> Right. And the world feels like you I I. don't know when I was a younger I put a. chip on my shoulder like the world was. an enemy and I'm going to figure this. out and watch me. And then the worst part is if you have. some successes in your life or things. that go kind of your way, it's hard to. realize that like something, you know, >> Yeah. >> Cuz then you feel like oh well, I'm. doing I'll figure this out, too. >> Yeah, cuz I did this for myself. I I.

uprooted myself. I made this happen. But. then also I've made a lot of the bad. things in my life happen, >> [laughter]. >> you know, drinking toss, walking down. the road, having a little slip and. slide. >> Oh, yeah. >> Carmically speaking. I'm a karmic patsy. I'm a I'm a charlatan of redemption. I'm. a test man. But. >> Dude, you're the Jack Ruby [laughter]. of that realm, >> I am Jack Ruby and I am Nikola Tesla and. we are building a free energy circuit. that Edison will shut down.

>> Yeah, for [laughter] sure. Um. >> Yeah, it's but it that ego is so good. cuz yeah, it's like no one really helped. me become a comedian. No one taught me. how to tell jokes. No one you know, I. slept in my car for a long time. I I. spent my whole life working on this. thing. So when we're able to turn that. into something that is working, of. course I think. we're apt to believe like, oh, I'll turn. this around too by myself. That's just you know, we both know. that's not the case. It's not possible.

>> Yeah, it's just willpower. It's vibrant. willpower. I'm amazed at the willpower. sometimes of people that struggle. Like. I have friends whose parents have her. out on the streets and or have been. struggling for 20, 30 years, you know, and uh. and I'm sure some of them like some of. them even asked me, why do you think. they say what's going on? You know, it's. like I don't know, but you just try to. talk with somebody about that stuff and. it's just the willpower of of some of of. alcohol of of people that are in.

recovery of alcoholism of alcoholics. It's man, it's strong. It's like. I'll figure this out. Everything I'll. turn this around. Or then sometimes I. bet you just get. uh you build you just get trapped in. shame and then you just want to stay. away from your life because you feel. like, I don't want to go around these. people because I'll only make things. worse for them. That's got to be kind of. a crazy trap. >> Yeah, that you're too far gone and. you're like radioactive. >> Yeah, it's heartbreaking. >> Yeah, definitely. But that people you. feel like people would be better off. without you, which is such a dangerous.

thought that is never ever ever ever. true. >> Mhm, yeah. >> Yeah, it's never true. >> Yeah. >> Um you've you've uh you've talked about. the occult a lot, >> [laughter]. >> right? And I feel like you've gone. around the up and down those realms. You've referenced you low-key your. closet occult, people say, okay? >> [laughter]. >> Occult adjacent. >> No, I've read about all kinds of. religions and stuff, so. sometimes I'll I'll throw some buzzwords. out there. >> I do like to Why do you do that? >> some buzzies. I'll do a little buzz. I'll catch you in a little in a little.

fly trap. >> Hershiser of throwing buzzwords out. there? >> K.C. Orange. >> [laughter]. >> K.C. Orangethorpe James Simpson Rocca. >> No. Orel Hershiser. >> Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. >> Sorry, he was a I think he was one of. the best pitchers before you were born. Dude, when I was a kid, like the best. pitcher was kind of a old white. >> [laughter]. >> It was like, okay. >> Randy Johnson? >> Uh-huh. It was before him. It was like. Randy Johnson's daddy or whatever. And. Randy Johnson. Yeah, bring up Orel. Hershiser. There he is, dude. He's a legend. Yeah,

him and Walker Buehler actually look. alike. But from Buffalo, New York, man, he's a legend. But he was a legend when. I was growing up, you know? It was just. like a white guy that was that was able. to do it. And then things got uh. Latino and just more diverse. Um but. what I was going to ask you, yeah, where. do you feel like we're at spiritually as. as a people right now? Do you Do you. feel like we're in a tough spot? Do you. see a a different future for us? Like. what do you really see having somebody. who like kind of is willing to kind of. massage the crystal ball of different. realms?

>> That is a interesting question and uh. uh. happy to be here, but it it that's. that's difficult. I think for me as part. of uh a better life that I've tried to. live um. yeah, I love reading about different. kinds of uh positive philosophy from. antiquity. So, you know, stoicism, Marcus Aurelius, um up through. different I've had different times in my. life where I was a. more or less a believer of existential.

nihilism that life had no purpose, that. we were put into this world simply um. from a dying god, sort of a gnostic. worldview. Of um. we don't have any purpose because we. will ultimately die, right? So, in doing. so, the end justifies the means in the. sense of whatever we end up doing it. does not serve any sort of greater good. But, I believe the opposite of that. today. Um I think as human beings. and uh these thoughts are sort of a.

mishmash of various other things. Mostly. the tenets of hermeticism and some sort. of uh cabal. Kabbalah. Not cabalic uh not like a cult, but. the universe is always in motion and. we're a part of the universe, right? So, I know that my life serves a greater. good today. And I also know that I can be a driving. force in my life while also knowing that. I can only drive so far. So, all I can choose to do is, as they.

say, the right-hand path of doing the. right thing and the next right thing and. um if I do do something wrong to a. friend, small things. The mistakes I. make today are smaller. I can be snippy. I can be rude. I can be not emotionally. available. Um I can immediately act to correct. that, right? So, it's some iteration of. karma and some iteration of the. understanding that life is. suffering. You know, it hurts to know. that we're alive and it to know that.

we're. worth more than we'll be given. Um. but. >> Dang, that's crazy. I never heard that. before. >> Yeah, you know, people the meaning of. life is just it's the small things. It's. to mean something in a moment-by-moment. basis and to do things without the. purpose of distraction. So, it's so much easier, you know, we've. both struggled with drugs and alcohol to. to turn that knob off. But, I'm going to have to wake up again. tomorrow.

And that's the thing about like. developing a drug habit is like I would. always be so furious when I would wake. up and go, "Oh my god, I have to do this. again. I can't believe I have to do this. again.". But, I'm of the belief that we were all. created so the universe can understand. itself, you know? So, >> Mhm. >> I'm simply a. a cog in a in such a greater machine of. I only exist because at the end of my. timeline I serve some greater purpose, you know, for. the creator of the universe, whatever.

you want to call that. Um. >> And who do you hope it is? Like say if. it is like a And I think that's. beautifully put, dude. I really do. That's pretty cool, man. You're eloquent speaker, you're going to. be a great uh screenwriter. >> Thank you for saying that. >> Yeah. It's going to be exciting, man. I. admire the fact that you're willing to. to do something that you want to do, right? Like I think it's easy to get trapped. and like. there's popularity here, there's some. money here, there's reward, there's like. ego reward here. But is this really like.

what I really want to do? Like sometimes. I really want to just focus on learning. Spanish and be a writer, right? Some of. those Those are things that I think, right? >> That gives me self-worth. >> Right. And but then you get caught in. different things and sometimes they're. blessings and it's great pasts and. stuff, but it's like, yeah, do we reward. like that. you know, do we reward that thing inside. of us that also we that that was the. reason maybe we started out wanting to. be creative? Like sometimes you'll get. on such a path that you never get back. to those things sometimes. >> Yeah, it was so it's been so nice to. to bring it back to comedy in any.

capacity, to do things just for fun, to. go do an open mic at like a hot dog. stand. Yeah. It's like I used to love. stuff like that. I used to live for [ __ ]. like that. And then when you get caught. up in all the numbers and how are the. tickets and. When you get caught up in all that, it. some of it gets lost. >> Yeah. >> And I'm tired of losing stuff, you know? I needed to trim some of my hedges, right? Tall poppy syndrome. I needed to. cut down some of these egotistical parts.

of my life that I know don't serve me. And then it's a daily thing of figuring. out, you know, chipping away at the. block of happiness and trying to get a. firmer picture of what that looks like, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Hard to say. >> I think well said. Um in the end, when we get there, >> Mhm. >> do you. and it's um and we realize, oh, this was. just a big masked singer, right? >> Sure. >> And they take it off they take the mask. off, who do you hope it is? >> Bill Paxton, yeah.

>> Who played for the Bulls? >> Um. >> Is that Bill Paxton? >> That's John Paxton. >> John Paxton. >> So uh Bill Paxton, um American actor who. was in Aliens and um. Frailty. Um just famed character actor. Bill Paxton who did have leading man. potential and was sometimes given the. option to exercise that. Um died in a medical. >> [laughter]. >> died in a medical malpractice incident. and. >> [snorts]. >> he um he once told. >> [laughter].

>> Yeah, he got malpracticed to heaven. >> Oh, that's what happened with Kanye's. mom. It was him and Kanye's mom then. maybe. >> Yeah, I think they were doing like a. dual surge or surgery or something. They. were doing sutures or something. It was. a suture day. >> Oh, it's probably one of those new cuz. they're I know that insurance is. offering if you both get surgery on the. same day with someone you don't know. It's like I it's like um. >> Cancels out. >> Then yeah, well, it's cheaper. >> Sure. Yeah, it's half as much for twice. the people, so. >> [laughter]. >> It's a new and they're doing that new. drive-by surgery where some guy just. reaches out of like a Yeah.

>> Ow. >> [laughter]. >> But yeah, he. >> There's a lot of great offers coming. from the gods above. >> Oh, yes, sure. We're simply vessels, man. >> Bill Paxton died in February 2017 from a. fatal stroke. Oh, man. 11 days after. undergoing heart surgery, his family. filed a wrongful death lawsuit accusing. the surgeon and hospital of medical. malpractice alleging the doctor used an. unnecessary unconventional technique. See. >> Uh-uh. >> Full circle riff, put a bow on it.

>> AKA Cedars-Cyanide, a lot of people call. it. >> [laughter]. >> Which is another. >> And they are coming out with a yogurt, I've heard. So, that's good. >> We are doing squatter's rights on that. riff. We are here to cut the ribbon on that. riff. >> Um before you go, Casey, uh. the riffs you are you're there's you're. you're a different instrument, man. You're a different instrument. How do. you best set yourself up for the ability. to riff? Do you have to do a certain. sequence of events before you go on? Like, and not to put a lot of pressure.

on yourself, but if you notice certain. things lead to better tuning for. yourself as an instrument. >> Oh, that's a good question. Um. without giving away my entire process, which I am not even capable of. replicating, which really gets me in a. bind. >> [laughter]. >> When I can't even do my own act and I'm. the one who does it. >> Yikes. >> I like to do I like to have some tent. poles. So, I'll go out there, I'll cause. a bit of a fuss. I'll cause a fuss. And I like to I'll say this, I like to.

go up there and sing cuz it gets me out. of my head. So, I learned a long time. ago the most embarrassing thing you can. ever do is try to sing genuinely like in. a circumstance that does not call for. it. So, I'll go up there, I'll do a little. grunge number. Woo, woo, do a little Alabama Shakes, Brittany Howard. And. I can feel [clears throat]. super embarrassed and then I go, "Well, surely nothing for the rest of this hour. will feel like how that just felt.". So, that allows me to just sort of peel.

the mask off and then do a big. Scooby-Doo reveal. of me to myself in the mirror. And then I do a quick wink. And. I will have some tent poles. So, I'll. try to do three jokes that I know I'm. going to tell. So, before I go up and I do my hour, I'll look at I I'll know three jokes. that going to say. >> Okay. >> And then I'll do a joke. Joke. Yeah. Joke. And then from there, hopefully I've. gotten about 10 to 20 laughs at this. point. And if if you extrapolate, let's.

say the room's 500, which is bigger than. rooms that I do. Let's say in a perfect. world I'm headlining 500 seaters. If I get 10 laughs out of 500, I go, "Ooh, I only got 490 to go.". So that. >> [laughter]. >> How about that? I I'll do a couple jokes up top and. that'll give me the confidence I need to. string it all together. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I you know, we're. >> [laughter]. >> But I have like a thousand half-sentence. jokes, so if I ever lose my train of.

thought, I'll just like hit them with. I'll just do a quick stinky. So that's like an example of a joke, yeah. >> Oh, dude. You're like an Easter basket. that has matches in it, dude. You're. like there's just [laughter] something. going on there. >> Careful with the plastic wrap. You'll. set the whole thing off. >> Cadbury and diesel. Uh it's just [laughter] yeah, there's. something just so charming about about. your presentation of yourself. >> Thanks [snorts] for saying that. >> It's the truth. >> Thanks. >> I hope you feel that in a in a place.

where we need to feel things that are. important. And not that not but I just. think like yeah, I don't know. I don't. mean that cuz I'm saying that to you, but I just think yeah, there's a. um. I don't know. It's a great thing to watch. You're a. great thing to watch, Casey Rocket. >> Thanks. Me and my friends watched No. Offense on Netflix, your special, right when I started comedy and it was. very formative for me. And I thought it. was so funny and I'd never seen anything. like it. So I really appreciate you. saying that. Thanks, man. >> Well, you bet, dude. I'm glad that we've.

been able to communicate, man. I hope we. can do it more. Um I think I'm going to. try to come out there tonight. >> Come riff or at least come hang out. You. don't have to riff, but come hang out. It'll be so fun. >> It would be so fun, dude. I think I'm. going to go up because I think it's. probably what I need to do, contrary. action. >> It's a my crowds, and I'm sure your. crowds, too, but they're so they would. just be so happy to see you. You'll have. so much fun. >> Yeah. >> It'd be great. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> All right, I'm coming then. >> Yes. >> Um what time is your show at? >> 7:00. >> It is? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I was supposed to go to a 6:30.

meeting, but maybe I can find a six or I. can maybe I can go to one after. Um. >> Yeah. >> Uh Casey Rocket, you got some tour dates. coming up? >> Yeah, I'm on the road. Uh yeah, caseyrocketcomedy.com. Uh. >> Up in Liberty Township over there, Cincinnati. That's a good place over. there. >> Doing some more Funny Bones this year. Um one thing I want to plug, I have an. hour of my stand-up on my Patreon. It's. $6, and all the money goes to harm. reduction programs in Chicago. So,

community outreach, clean uh needles, harm reduction, all kinds of good stuff. that helps people get. help uh people get the help that they. need. So, yeah, my Patreon's on there, and um if you feel like doing that, just. know that all that money goes to. charity. So, yeah. >> Dude, that's awesome, man. Um congrats on all the success, dude. Thanks for talking with us. We had. Liberty Township. What were some of the. other ones? Let me just rattle them off. real quick. Uh Columbus, Ohio. I love. being in Ohio, dude. St. Petersburg, Florida. Asheville, North Carolina. Have.

you been there? >> Um I have not done the Orange Peel yet, but I've been to Asheville. It's so. cool. >> So. >> offered a three uh. threesome there by. uh. older mixed couple. >> [laughter]. >> One of them wearing who I think was. wearing a Ed Reed jersey. Uh we got Chicago back at Zanies, Indianapolis, Indianapolis, Louisville, a lot of places. Um you can check uh. check him out online on his website, caseyrocket.com. >> caseyrocketcomedy.com. >> caseyrocketcomedy.com. >> Yeah, thank you, guys.

>> And uh. and before you go, I would just want to. get this note in for. uh viewers. Know that the Jasper Mall in. Jasper, Alabama has not officially. closed. It is still operating though in. a very reduced and dead mall state. >> Dead mall state, that's what's going to. happen when the nuclear family. collapses. >> Not to be confused with Dead Mall 5. actually, who I think is still doing. well. Can you bring up Dead Mall? >> Yeah, I think that's one of. Marshmallow's. >> [clears throat]. >> aliases. So, it's like Dead Mouse. Yeah,

he's in the he's What do they call it? The Marshmallow extended universe, so. >> Yes, Dead face reveal. >> Okay, spoiler alert. >> Didn't know that was him. I hope he's. doing good. Anyway, um cool man. Dude, thank you so much for. your time. Have a great show tonight. I'm going to come up there and uh. I'll figure it out when I get up there. >> Yeah, I wouldn't have it any other way. And I'll And I'll say one more thing. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Um. there's more to life than riffs, but. there's not more to riffs than life. >> Mhm.

>> That's it. >> [laughter]. >> That's it. See [snorts] you at the mall. >> Now, I'm just floating on the breeze and. I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I. must be. cornerstone. Oh, but when I [music] reach that. ground, I'll share this peace of mind I. found. I can feel it. in my bones. But, it's going to take.

a little.