Bryan Callen | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #325

today's guest is uh is a man who. first had me on a podcast as a human. and he is one half of a member of. fighter and the kids. he is an actor an entertainer and. and a knowledgeable man. [Music]. uh today's guest is comedian brian. [Music]. collins.

i'll sit and tell you my story. [Music]. and i will find a song.

it would be a special occasion yeah. tim will grab you though let him grab. man he's got a bag of tricks on him. that's why i've been getting lean bro. is that right yeah less to grab bro you. want to get me you better get me by an. organ. because they can't because their hands. just fall off it's like trying to grab a. dolphin or something oh it's yes like. trying to grab. oh yeah it's like trying to grab uh. like like it's trying to grab the the. top of a cave like an old cave. or a piece of marble that's been tread.

upon for many many years when you go to. uh. it's like trying to grab diarrhea if. somebody's on an all oil diet. yeah that's possible sometimes when you. go. in the um if you're in like rome or. you're you it there's a well. where people have been getting their. water and the marble is actually worn. away. from where people have been leaning yes. so that's when you know or steps you can. walk in. um oh yeah there's some steps dude in. the old country and you. and you and it's there's an indent the.

marble has been worn away from. where people have walked my friend lives. in a. villa like that in in. is he rich or trentino. in the north of italy jesus he used to. be rich i'll spray my neck even saying. that. i know the way they said roberto. oh dude by the time they're done saying. it i'm freaking nude huh. um are we rolling yeah man nice.

and i'm not saying that i would take tim. welch i wanna. well that's what you said though but i. said i'll take tim welch. i think that's exactly what you said so. i'd like to. that's sugar shawn o'malley's coach yeah. now i i i rolled with him. when i say rolled with him we did a. little flow grappling a little light. flow grappling. okay on the ground or on the feet just. on the feet and the ground feet on the. ground we go feet and ground we go feet. and ground. and then sometimes i go in the air if. i'm doing kung fu and uh.

he's a gorilla now he's a grill that's a. different kind of strength that's a man. who hasn't stopped training and fighting. forever well he likes to sit i know he. has that like a lot of gorilla you'll. see the the. the orangutans they will play in the. trees they'll be milling orangutan. yeah he's a person of the farc trading a. dookie with another one but you'll see. the gorilla's always sitting there. and he just gets into some big beefy. he's like a man orangutan isn't he he. really is yeah because he's a ginger. yeah yeah he's one of the rare ranga.

gingers. he's a ranga ginger or uh what do they. call them in australia they call them uh. gangers. gangers i don't think they're awesome. instead of ginger if you pronounce it. ganger oh really. gengas yeah these gangers yeah he's he's. a. different kind of ginger though there's. a brown i'm not saying i will take him i. meant i will take him somewhere if he. needs a ride that's. what i meant i meant i will uber all. right for tim watch look at him though. wow. now tim timmy and so sean. sean sean o'malley it's so funny because.

he fights at 135. and and i'm 170. and obviously obviously he'd knock me. out. right now and be like yeah he'd be like. all right let's go up up and then you. know and if god forbid you try to roll. with him because he'd do something like. get you in. an ankle lock or whatever how do you. want to lose you want to fight sugar. charlie if you and i have to fight. how do you want to lose the question is. theo brian how do you want to lose how. do you want to lose. if do you want him do you want an ankle. lock do you want to get knocked out just. just just tell.

i think you got to get him in that hard. scarf baby that's the only way to go. well yeah. i know but i know look i there's rumors. out there about sugar shawn's. that he he can kick you and play uh. beethoven on your ribs with his toes at. the same time yes he can like. there's just the level of speed that he. has well he's got. he's got an ass on him see if you can. bring up sugar shawn. o'malley's ass he's got a tail piece. does he yeah he's a thin guy. whereas he likes to wear tight pants as. well he should and he's got an.

ass my girlfriend was like he's got an. ass on him. really yeah she was how can you even. have an ass at 135 you got to really get. to 140 to even have that. he walks around probably at 155 160. that's a good point. you know what i mean yeah i i hope his. uh he has tauros he had a tarsal issue i. think so hopefully his tarsals are. tight now he's having a tarsal issue i. don't really do we have to look at the. ass of this man right now i know. i mean we don't i believe you but i you. know what i i. i feel like i notice if somebody has an.

ass and i don't. and there he is fighting josh brolin. right there. yes he did and josh beat him up oh yeah. i know i could see that. i had to say john from a different era. yeah he's from like the mesologic dog. he's from old school i had a bunch of. stuntmen talking about they worked on. old boy i think it's called that that. remake of that crayon. oh the japanese movie yeah korean movie. well. come on we know what you're saying yeah. you know what i'm talking about yeah. and uh they all the stuntmen said that.

guy is very strong new brolin. yeah he was he was he's a bull like he. was able to do a lot of his own stunts. they were they were actually shocked at. how strong he was. oh i shook his hand before and it's like. you know when you get up to like a a. door and it's locked yeah it's the same. type of thing yeah like. oh you can't really do much i seen i i. shook. a guy named incognito's hand he plays. yeah yeah. i think defensive tacklers offensive. tackle yeah he called out that gay the. other gentleman who he got an argument. to get. larry tunsil or whatever i think that.

was gay yeah he got in trouble for. bullying i think but he's always been a. tough one which you. should do i feel like if your job is. being. this guy yeah now he's so big though. like is that kyle turley's son dude. it might wait go to that that picture. right there where he's got that bill's. hat on. right there look at how look at how just. thick he is oh yeah look at how thick he. is. he's a he's a blonde silverback i. couldn't put my he. he i couldn't put my hand so when i. shook his hand.

my hand didn't reach all the way around. his palm so his palm. is two of mine it was so weird and then. did it go both hands. on his hand like i had to go here i had. to go i had to go like this. use one hand as your knuckles and one. hand is your hand i said how much did. you squat how much do you squat he goes. well. i mean i used to when i was going crazy. you know probably i don't know 805. i went hey you had to add the five. pounds to the eight yeah he got. i think he yelled at tiger woods son or. whatever jonathan martin. jonathan martin there it is um.

if you could be a pro athlete at one. sport what would it be um. because you played what basketball. football played basketball. you want to bring up the picnic we gotta. pick here. well when we we call him pit that's his. nickname is picnic. when we when we need a jpeg oh i got you. you know nick was a premature baby do. you know that. he's a tall kid so i'm surprised he got. a lot of you probably pack a lot of milk. as a boy. i did i do love milk back back nick you. come from.

i'm gonna guess i'm gonna come i'm gonna. guess you come from scandinavian stock. i actually don't know my family history. that well he was adopted by his. grandmother dude. um i think you're like german irish. what look at look at theo there i am. right there though wow. wow now you're the only white kid on. that team well the other kid behind me. was. white and black okay so you were you. were the minority. in that group yeah you keep in touch. with any of those guys. a lot of these guys didn't have phones. in do they have phones now.

some of them one guy was 35 years old. the guy on the top right. he looks like him yeah dude he would. drop his son off at school in the. morning. and then pretend that he wasn't going to. school and then coming to school. it was crazy yeah he looks he looks like. he's got a mortgage. all kinds of issues oh yeah definitely. man damn. basketball funny how skinny we were as. kids oh crazy huh. and then when you're skinny adults go. you're gonna fill out yeah i never. filled out.

really no what's one of what is one of. how do you age gracefully i know that. you've been aging or getting into aging. yeah you haven't getting anything and. how do you age gracefully do you. feel like um stay productive sleep. well physically let's start with. physically you see sleep is the most. important. most people are underslept really but. that requires but then if you're going. to talk about. [ __ ] sleep tim welch dude damn dude. sorry dog dude you got i don't know look. you're coming. hard on you're coming hard on tim welch.

right now none of this is going to end. well. dude he's not i can feel how mad he is. right now i know the phone's blowing up. tim already hears that i know that none. of this is gonna let you down tim calm. down. yeah i'll talk sense into him i know. that none of this is gonna end well or. age well. damn when there's a video years from now. of tim bucking just. sending me to sayonara yeah yeah it was. just working your body so he doesn't. knock you out at first just hit you in. the liver. yeah hey he'll dress up like a. lumberjack and just literally chop me. down just chop. his axe feet you look like a piece of. wood to me cha cha.

um meet my paul bunions he'll dress up. like a woodpecker for halloween and just. show up at a party i'm at. and just take it to my neck he'll just. take his feet and go i got bunions on my. feet time for you meet my paul bunions. and start just kicking you about the. legs your blood clots. and i'm gonna rush you to the hospital. babe the blue blood clot. oh they can kick you when they kick you. down here. or behind the knee that muay thai [ __ ]. you can keep it. they just have different bones we got.

corey sanhedrin coming in today. corey sanhagen is corey sandhagen. i i his his coach christian allen i. watched that kid. train before anybody knew he was i was. at high altitude really. and that dude is and how do you get up. to high altitude. you don't have to have ladders to get. into the building or no no no it's just. in denver you just go to denver. oh wow yeah it's cody uh donovan's uh. school. and and christian allen who's a genius a. genius he's a ninja. christian is a ninja wow and christian.

allen is that was his protege. i took a couple striking classes from. christian allen which i have no business. doing there's no. there's no absolutely no reason but i. would go back to my boxing gym. and use just some of the [ __ ] he taught. me and it would [ __ ] they'd be like. what is that. it's just he's just like he's he's. this creative savant and cory sanhagen. is a product of that. and cory sanding has been training since. he was 16 years old. i don't see anyone in the 35 pound.

division. i mean i all due respect to everybody. there because that's a. stacked division but anybody who fights. san diegan if i had to put my money on. the future champion. i got to be honest it's san hagen well. he looks the. the thing when you're watching him also. he looks like he has another. 200 fights in him well he does like he. just does. i think at that weight too those guys. just don't wear down as. as quickly he doesn't take a lot of. punishment number one yeah and he's just. on the move so much. and he's also five eleven five ten. eleven so he's like my height.

i'm six four but he's but i slouch and. when i slouch but he's tall. and he gets down to 35 and so. he's doing [ __ ] it's this new [ __ ] you. know i was talking to uh. malik who grew up boxing on larry moloch. no molok b. oh oh yes and larry molly he keeps. changing his name dude it's mallet. you know what i'm saying that's the. weirdest thing sometimes you meet a. black guy who doesn't know how to. pronounce it.

i call him malek i don't know i like it. i like this soft a i like. and look honestly seasonally i will. change up. how i do the vowels of his name i will. also call him mala. you know if it's an egyptian holiday. i'll [ __ ] go full moloch on him. malik you know what malik means in. arabic king. no way yeah he is kind of a king man. yeah. um but he was telling me how boxing has. changed when he now. tries to spar with these younger dudes. they're doing [ __ ] he hasn't seen. wow they're doing weird because.

everything evolves people come up with. if you're in a gym and everybody's doing. the same thing. you start getting used to each other's. patterns then somebody comes along with. somebody innovates something different. somebody goes i'm going to come in with. a. a lead uppercut like you know and then a. hook and you're like well but that's not. supposed to be that's not what happens. but. he's a he's an unbelievable boxer malek. oh dude try try boxing with that guy i'm. not fighting that guy he'll sleep you. i'm not gonna fight him no but wait we. were talking about. and yeah we were talking about oh sleep.

great so the fighter has more. the fighter and the kids has more. fighters on it now yeah. yeah so it's interesting because the. only kids on there is chappelle and. brendan mm-hmm. yeah and then it's you and mala. my mom michael mal. michael what season is it no but you. asked me how i age gracefully. yeah let's get back into that man so. first i want to know physically. how do you age gracefully first of all i. think you have to sleep is everything. okay so but the problem with that is.

that people i don't sleep well. well are you eating a lot before you go. to bed what kind of food are you eating. are you on any kind of like stimulants. now what if you have a couple of godiva. chocolates. it depends but as you get older you're. going to have more and more of a problem. as you get older you you could when i. was younger i could drink a bottle of. wine. red wine no problem i had energy i had. energy wow what was it in was it in like. one of those can you bring up a cask of. red wine please. i just wanted i drank it from a cask did. you actually actually you drink it from. a.

from a from a leather bladder from that. flask from an old school flower i've. heard. stories of uh yeah if can we get an. image of a cask of red wine. yeah that's a cask i think it's a wine. cask see that. you know what i was looking for i was. looking more for the. an old timey old a cask is what you you. transported in maybe or just you store. it in or you age it in but. but uh a flask you use a leather. a leather flask you know i'm thinking.

yeah more like that bladder that more. like. that would probably change the taste of. the wine you see you understand. so you need what you need is you need a. glass bottle. you age it under preferably fifty-five. [ __ ] wants to pull out a glass bottle. with his buddies you guys are all on a. mountain side relaxing. yeah the women are walking you know if. they want to. do it are doing washing down by the. creek or collecting berries or. yes if it's a traditional if it's a. traditional hike.

they're gathering and you guys are. hunting right i mean right everybody's. playing there everybody's doing helping. out and there's a room for the other. person there are. other genders that might be represented. there who might do both right. right or who might choose right to do. yes. maybe one day the biggest hunter's like. oh i'm going to go hunt berries you know. like whoa that's right calm down a lot. yeah. we need you back up here dog um. yeah but you so okay so sleep water. and then um i think i actually believe.

in now do you do water before you go to. sleep. sometimes but i think more importantly. is in the morning and then what i think. is important is. not eating too much never overloading. your system. never so if you i do think uh. intermittent fasting is a really good. idea. wow and i think eating simply and not. overloading your body. you can feel it dude i've done i haven't. done intermittent fasting but i've had. mittens on before and it's so hard to. [ __ ] eat with mittens. and that's the same goddamn thing yeah. how are you supposed to butter your. toast with mitt roll dude.

it's impossible and then you're spitting. out whoop. damn it and it's like at least they're. wool though and why do you wear wool. when you why do you wear wool when. you're hunting because you are trying to. attract animals. no because you need why would you wear a. wool instead of cotton. i would wear wool instead of cotton. because wool is warmer. well it is especially when. when it is nighttime when it gets wet. when it gets wet yeah. so wool gets wet better yeah if you.

cotton kills. you if you get wet and cotton you're. gonna die. if you get wet and wool will will. actually keep you. warm it acts like almost like an. insulating like a like a. it's almost like a uh wetsuit so you'll. stay alive longer and wool. you don't want to be wet period but. we'll so that's why. your first two layers when you go. hunting or in the wilderness is always. wool. you don't you can use polyester maybe. but you want wool.

i don't want to do i want to do if i'm. going outside i like to have one wool. socks. actually if i'm on a long distance. flight i'll even wear wool socks yeah. that's where i'm at age-wise i got all. kinds of things about i'm terrified of. the cold i'm afraid of the cold cold. makes me a coward. so i always have warm [ __ ] in my car. including. fire making material oh yeah you know. what i'm saying. so does that so i guess i do but. not really i mean if i can you know you. live in venice. in case venice goes enough homeless. who's making fires i know but in case it.

goes to the wolves. maybe the vegetation sure there's a. virus and vegetation gets crazy and now. we're in. this tropical jungle because of global. warming and now i got to make a fire. here's a question right here man from. peter peteryon. son hey peter take your hood off damn. kid. what's up brian what's up theo coming. here from los. angeles uh i ran into brian about two. years ago in venice. was too much of a [ __ ] to say what's up. my biggest regret in life pretty much.

but uh. speaking about i didn't see you i would. have said yeah brian you can talk about. no he said he was a [ __ ] for not saying. hi to you oh okay. but i respect the fact that you thought. he called that you were the best i. always say hi i'm always super nice. gym vibes a lot of homosexuality there. um hey man brother a lot of people. touching people in odd places. uh you have any experience with that. maybe some tips on how to uh. navigate the waters and just get your. workout in yeah. true alpha like brian would know uh.

thanks and he was talking about. specifically the venice golds. yeah well i'm very very appreciative of. that question because i was working out. in the. golds in hollywood when i was a young. man i was cute when i was young man i. knew i was getting older because gay men. stopped looking at me oh yeah. now when i was younger they just give. you money at that point yeah when i was. younger i was skinny and i but i had a. pretty face i had a pretty i had a. delicate nose and mm-hmm. my jaw was well defined and oh damn. write this down man. i had heavy eyelids i had not not heavy.

eyelids but you could see the. i just oh yeah you can see the medium. even though i just had my lids it. doesn't work you know so i had i i was. cute. and i was doing i was doing these i. never liked lifting weights i just like. whatever but i'm there and i'm doing i'm. doing whatever those are unique too. those are those kind of like i'm a. kangaroo look at me. you know that's for your triceps i never. could do i hated working out where i was. just doing curls i was like i can't do. it i want to do something with like. where i'm i feel like i'm i'm becoming. more athletic not. not looking like a bodybuilder right so.

i'm doing this stupid bodybuilding thing. and a guy gets behind me. he gets behind me he goes doing it wrong. a white guy. yep you're doing it wrong what's up and. he goes get your butt in there. and he kicks my knees and he grabs my. elbows and i'm like. i don't know what the [ __ ] is going on. here man so we just went with it. we dated for like three years i know and. then i was like i'm straight and i ran. out. i was like i can't do this anymore but. you get confused.

the answer to that question is you're. gonna sometimes you can get like what. the [ __ ]. and you're living with each other you. have two small dogs you have a vegetable. garden and you're like. i'm not gay but it can take a while it. can take a while because it's. comfortable they can they. it can get comfortable when you're. shacked up they lull you in with the. wind chime you go to their house and. there's wind chimes. and some of the wind chimes it's other. young men screaming for help when the. wind hits the pipe. [Music]. i've been attracted to um there's a guy.

yesterday that's crazy but i'm like. where did you. get that wind chime dude and why does. each chime have a person's name written. on you have somebody. somewhere in this house is there. somebody under the floorboards how do. you know um that's. edgar island ho man yeah it is that. growling telltale heart. god damn right brother is in the. floorboards. um okay so sleep and water helps. but you but yeah to get back this man's. question sorry.

a lot of men and look one thing that's. not discussed a lot of times in america. is the aggression of. it's always looked at that men uh. straight men are the predators in. america. there is also predatorial behavior by. gay men. and it is unchecked there's nobody. monitoring it. yeah there's nobody uh it's kind of guy. crime so geyser. right but you see how i i i think you. can quickly see how women are.

disgruntled by the behavior of men. sometimes by men flirting with them. because it happens so aggressively with. men. you know yeah that's very true it's just. it's tough to like. and there's no and you gotta if you're a. supermarket at whole foods and you're a. good looking woman. you know you're gonna be dealing with. energy. yeah it's like it's like it's almost. like being a celebrity where. you know all those people want to talk. to you and you're not going to. something's going to happen yeah you.

know what i mean like. you're going to have to you're first of. all you're aware of how you look because. you have to because they're staring at. you. you know they're going to look for an. excuse to talk to you they know you know. they're going to try to stop you. it's all that exciting it's like being. on a decent podcast. it's like being on a decent podcast it. really is love your podcast bro and then. they want to take. yeah god bless but you know it's. different for women for guys it's like. ah you know they like me but. right right but for women yeah there's. more of uh exhausting i bet it's. exhausting but then you also get. dangerous like guys who. follow you and [ __ ] there's always that.

danger i think for. women where men don't have to deal with. that men men can always. it's just different right if a dude. follows you back to your place you can. like hey dude what are you doing in my. place. yeah whereas women it's more like yeah. it's got to be it's probably a lot. scarier. yeah but it's getting if a guy could. follow you back to your place you know. as a guy you can be like well. make sure you close the door whatever it. is yeah yeah can i get you a drink. yeah um can i get you a uh but wait so. so aging gracefully um is that what we.

were talking about i know you were. trying to answer this question i was. trying to answer this guy's question. because i feel like this doesn't get. talked about enough that there is mans. that will do anything to be gay with you. and a attractive here's what i realized. the other day. the hottest guy that a gay male can get. is a straight male i've heard that from. other games no the hottest girl that's. their hottest girl like our hottest girl. is like a hot girl it's like i gotta get.

a hot girl. the hottest girl for a for a gay man is. a straight guy. that's their hottest girl turning a. straight guy. yeah yeah and like. people were like yeah it's like first of. all the term. turning a guy straight sounds there's a. physical [ __ ]. element to it it sounds like a [ __ ]. crime. yeah i don't know i i it's still a guy. i've seen women like there was a guy. yesterday i saw who was uh.

host of uh he was like seating people. and he was tall he was dressed. so well and he was so effeminate he. smelled so good. and he had short blonde hair and he was. just like he was perfect and he had. really delicate features he was. beautiful he looked like a beautiful he. was so androgynous. like a little layla and he was super. nice and he had a kind of a very. non-threatening voice and you and i was. looking at him and i was like. i'm definitely i'm drawn to this this.

this might be a man but he's. got so much feminine energy that's rome. that's that roman vibe. yeah that you're like you're like you. know it wasn't that i wanted to have sex. with him but i. appreciated how beautiful he was as a. creature i'd feed him olives yeah i'd. never i didn't even know i was like i'm. not gonna call him a guy or a girl this. is where the gender fluid thing yeah. makes sense and that's where we're. headed i feel like well. i have a theory on all of it like right. now we're trying to deal with this. non-duality right so you know you know. the idea behind.

so so a lot of this this gender stuff. comes from. jack there who talked about so when you. have you have a dualistic mind most of. us have a dualistic mind. i do probably i don't know male female i. do you know. male female reason passion like you know. oh yeah i have all that. logic superstition yes we break up we. break the world up into two. male female yin and yang hot and cold. and what derek said i think he was i. think darren i was [ __ ] the biggest. mental masturbator of all time but what. he said was.

he said if you have a dualistic sense of. mind you. automatically privilege one over the. other. you automatically are going to privilege. male over female maybe hot over. there's a tendency to privilege so. reason over passion be reasonable be. logical don't be superstitious. when we have this um uh be the mind over. over the over the heart you know that's. always the battle. the mind or the spirit over the flesh so. we think dualistically.

and so the idea is when you do that. you're going to always favor one it's. it's. we are we construct as human beings. maps of meaning and you're going to. always favor one over the other. and when you do that automatically. if you if that's your language structure. there's going to be built-in. prejudice there's going to be a built-in. power structure. you understand and so so the idea behind. a non-dualistic way of thinking the idea. behind.

going beyond male and female for example. and gender. is the idea that that's how you and. beyond beyond going black and white. you know the idea is racist non-racist. how about anti-race the idea. is that you will sort of not. favor one over the other and maybe. there's value in favoring the one that. you. usually don't favor over the other right. you got to switch it up so you [ __ ] with. your brain. right so that you [ __ ] with the entire. power structure right that that would be. the idea behind that's what's going on. in the universities.

that's what's going on in the humanities. that's what jordan peterson talks about. that's why. you have this huge fight with gender now. right so so now now you have it's very. interesting because the feminists. are having a big problem with the. transgender community because for a lot. of feminists they're going wait. you're saying you're you're a man you're. a biological man but you're saying you. identify as a woman. and so now you're you're trying to be on. equal footing with. women meaning for example you should be. able to compete in women's sports which.

means women who are biological get their. scholarships taken away because you. might be physically. just more advantaged you're a man so. it's very interesting to see how the. feminist movement is grading up against. the trans movement it's becoming this. whole. it's becoming this whole crazy [ __ ]. wnba. yes maybe bro out of the game yeah but. no i feel like it comes from a. philosophy a french philosophy it comes. from foucault it comes from. derek i mean if you look at the fathers. of these these kinds of thoughts it's. very interesting. so so you're saying that like because we.

got stuck in this old idea of. black or white male or female that. now things it's starting to become the. picture is becoming like. muddier but we're still kind of chained. to some of these old ways. we are because that's the way our brains. work right right and i don't know if. some of it's evolutionary or biological. i would imagine a lot of it's. evolutionary. but right a lot of evolutionary a lot of. it is like us. because yeah a lot of the things i hear. and read these some days it's like. this just this sounds cool it's a neat.

idea. but it's not gonna flow actually flow. through. the system that i am making when you get. to the level of detail it's really hard. to implement. right but i have to say that like as. somebody who felt very uneasy about all. this woke [ __ ]. i will say this like i do i know that if. you watch commercials now it's always. like it's always a mixed couple right so. it's like a black. man with a white woman a white woman oh. totally man and so. so the the there's this there's this.

this. forced sort of diversity inclusion thing. but what i like about that in a way. is that it is kids are growing up with. the idea that. that's the normal right it used to be. with my generation if a black and a. white person got married it was already. it was always like you you're like oh. you call them zebras yeah. yeah and now it's like what what the. left wants to do. and i understand it is is kind of try to. erase all that from your mind. you don't see color and don't even see. gender because if you make it an issue.

the problem is when you try to do that. you're actually making an. issue so that that's the trap that you. have to get out of and i don't know how. to get out of that. but i do appreciate i will say that in a. lot of ways. a lot of this woke [ __ ] is made like so. if you're trans if you're a child and. you do have have this gender thing going. on like you're a man but you feel like a. woman. i really do believe that's a biological. thing i do believe that there are some. people that just. are born that way they're born into a. male body yeah they're born into a male. body but they feel like a woman. there's so many people dude i used to do.

it when that shania twain song would. come on if i'm real honest with you. i would be honest i would close my door. and do the damn well we all have. foot on the floor we all you know. there's it's all a spectrum some people. are more feminine more masculine right. and we certainly get caged into. what is expected there's a lot of. conditioning in the world for sure. like this is the way i'm supposed to be. and so. yeah i think it's well it's a there's a. lot it's a it's a lot to.

to piece apart it is because but i think. that what i think. is technology and gene editing. and and meshing with computers if you. read the singularity is near. you know human beings are going to start. being able to not only control their own. biology their own evolution. but they might be able to control even. their own. i don't know if it's sex but but the. idea of transforming. into what you actually want to be.

through gene editing as an adult. is not far it's not far-fetched. it just isn't you will be able to. eventually. right now the the process of turning. into a woman is crude. right it's hard it's it requires a great. deal of. surgery and things like that stirrups. and all that stuff. i think eventually what's going to. happen is when we have the technology. you think you'll be able to adjust your. genes in real time yes to genetically. you know you will be able to genetically.

morph into. the female the biological version of. yourself. as a female and that's not that's not. at all unscientific now now we are. already going to be how would we talk. about gender. now so a lot of this is almost like this. i always try to look at these big trends. as as evolutionarily it's like it's just. there's an evolution to it. there is right well sometimes it's it's. harder like with with. media and like them pushing people. certain ways it's hard to sometimes know.

what is like. just where things are going and what is. like okay lead. the people trying to lead you over there. for like commercial value you know. well like that's a hard thing to notice. sometimes but yeah i think as like. i can't imagine if you could press a. button or. take a tonic or something and over like. a week. period you'd be like yeah i'm [ __ ]. yeah i'm doing drywall. right now but in a week i'm going to be. a [ __ ] at least an aide in florida. you know a female 8 and you wouldn't say.

that you wouldn't easy. you would be and then you see your. buddies down there who's doing drywall. he's down there because he got a. different job he got relocated. and you guys just see each other in an. elevator yeah that's already. happened but now it requires a great. deal of surgery it's very rudimentary. they call it. yeah it's it's physical and rudimentary. and i mean it's a real. hacksaw jim duggan in there you. basically yeah look and then here you go. right here now. this this guy this this is gabrielle. ludwig it recently went viral people try.

to say this is just happening uh she's. playing for santa clara. community college but it was actually. from 2012 but she was a former navy seal. okay come on yeah really yeah usa today. profiled her struggles of being on this. team but. again back in 2000 she's already a. one percenter when it comes to men. biologically right she's six. three or six four eight six eight and. she was a seal. six eight is too tall for a seal i think. right and so there's these other girls. naval tattoos so yeah she first of all.

she could. ex-navy soldier not seal sorry yeah. sorry. and professor or senator not senator um. admiral loebwig could easily be some of. these women's fathers. okay how old is 50 at the time she was. 50. 50. when she died dude she [ __ ] got. her dime on and [ __ ] balled out what. is going on here like i. to me look i've long said white men. should be allowed to play in the wnba. i've lost as have i but that's not a. white man that's a white woman.

theo right now it is platformed but but. here's what's. i think also a lot of our like the. structure we know so far like all the. rule books are male based and female. based like. there's a lot of people that don't want. to like you get stuck in the patterns. and of what was. of what the way things have been it's. hard to be like. okay now we're going to just change it. up you know. well and change takes time too i'm not. against it it's just like. yeah but wait a minute if you're a. mother uh-huh and you've dedicated your.

whole life. to getting your daughter to practice yup. and to get a scholarship because you. don't have the money you need the money. mm-hmm. and your daughter's really gifted a. tennis or she's really gifted at. wrestling or she's really good. for singing like selena well no singing. is not an example i'm talking about a. sport. she's she's she's she's still a body. sport not a throat scholarship to. basketball or track. okay and a man a biological man says i'm. now a woman i'm not gonna get any i'm. not even gonna get any estrogen. i'm just a woman i identify as a woman.

and goes and uh decides to. compete and takes that scholarship away. from your daughter. you can understand how frustrating that. would be that would be heartbreaking for. the. mother and for the daughter yeah and. also why feminists. now go wait wait wait wait wait we've. been fighting so hard. how do we navigate this right how i. don't know how to navigate it. the turfs exclusionary radical feminists. well so so then if you bring that up.

though you're called a transphobe or. you're. no no no no no that's not fair either. we're just trying to solve a problem and. bring up an an. issue that is real so now what do we do. about that. like what what do you do about that [ __ ]. i i don't want somebody who feels. different or feels like they're a woman. or a via vice versa. but they were born another sex yeah i. don't want them being excluded. right but at the same time you know.

they can't be cheating and just putting. a camara on every freaking. you know chicken at 105. that's what's. yeah that but that's kind of what's. that's the dilemma right it makes sense. because you're making a lot of rules. where it's like. okay whatever you identify as that's. what you can play as. so of course some people's going to bend. the system you know what i'm saying yeah. but that's a political. that's also an ideological and political. stance. so if you can just identify and whatever.

you say but that's what it's getting to. be well so whatever so. then that means that your whatever you. you. conceive and conceptualize right is. truth. then this is dereda then there's no. truth so in other words. if we don't have a standard on which we. can. stand if there's not a standard that we. can more. that we can anchor into right just so. that we can. know that we can distinguish of course. life is. this you have to have that well but but.

but no because there are a lot of. there's a philosophy out there. and it comes from darada and and that. says. no there should be zero categories it's. why the maoists. put everybody in the same uniform. and with the same haircut it was the. idea of. eradicating literally any distinction. but mother nature is going to have her. say in that of course she is. you know it's of course she and also the. number this is what gets me. the number of people that.

it applies to to immediately take that. template. and put it against the the. bill the the major the mass majority. and then a lot of times they try and. force it in immediately. that's the kind of [ __ ] where you get so. much rebuttal because it's disrespectful. to just. force it immediately i know it's. disrespectful also too it's a little bit. more than that buddy. if you even talk about this if you even.

now if you were to if you had the point. of view say you had the point of view. that. there are two sexes or that there that. your biology is what sticks. okay you'll get de-platformed you're. considered. you're you're you're practicing hate. speech and you will be. de-platformed from everywhere including. youtube. really and patreon anywhere else so we. can think stuff like that we can't say. it you're not you're not allowed to.

speak. so where do you say it you just go and. chisel it into a bench the first. amendment doesn't really. exist anymore damn and that's a very. dangerous. sign saying it's very dangerous. and nobody i don't think enough people. are talking about it and i certainly. don't think enough people. who are pushing this narrative really. understand what's what. no a lot of people are just chasing. clout they're chasing uh. weenie and and vagina they just want all. they want any type of [ __ ] body you. know genital clout.

but what i'm saying is have a separate. league for these for. the middlemen of the universe yeah you. know. because yeah it's like if if i'm uh. a young lady who's worked my butt off. and is about feminism you know like. women we need the opportunity this and. that um. and then a fella comes along. and he but you have lawyers on the left.

who are now calling this they are. they're on the left they they fight for. a lot of you know. a lot of liberal causes i can't remember. the woman's name but she's a champion of. she's a left-wing lawyer and she's a. champion of all these causes the social. justice causes. and she said she said this is misogyny. and i was like damn she said it's. misogyny if it's a man and. if it's a transgender person she was. saying that that for men to come into. women's sports now. like this but these are men well she was. saying that that these are rooks.

biological men who are coming into. female sports. because they identify that you know they. identify as women now. she was saying you know you hear the. women on the other side you hear. feminists. now fighting that right so it's a fight. man. i just sit back and i'm like damn and. then you got science put him at straw. weight look i say. get him at a weight where is there a. weight class you could get them at. if you say specifically ufc yeah is. there a weight class you could get them. at where it would be.

where it evens out a little bit yeah but. the problem with that is that you've got. a different bone. structure and you've got like so so when. you're talking about. punching people in the face and speed. and all that. yeah and even even they even i think. women and men have a different um. read on on split second timing so. uh women tend to hesitate even the high. champions hesitate just a split second. oh women in an instant than men do yeah.

and so that's a huge advantage in. striking. so you've got so many issues so when. you're talking about women in. fighting you're talking about. transgender women and fighting. what stage are they at like what stage. that in their transition. how much estrogen they have in relation. to testosterone do they still. have the different bone structure and. the different muscularity that that. gives a man much bigger. i think they there should be then a. separate league or something and i hate. to separate it but it's just. it's when you start catering to.

you have to cater to the masses first. it's just. i feel like it's where you have to it's. the most people. you know it's like it's like the same. when you get all these people to. reconfigure their bathrooms and do all. it's like. there's nobody transgender in this town. but you're gonna. have a news media come here and say. these bathrooms are for men only well. you know there's only 11 people in town. people are trying to piss. yeah in some ways that's the strength of.

this country though like in some ways. maybe in and i'm not trying to be. old-sided i just think. you have to like yes you welcome them in. and you find a way to do it. but it can't be immediate and that's. sometimes that where i think the media. fails. is they want it immediate they want it. now and. well i think the better way to put it is. that you you want to protect. the marginalized and the minorities. rights right. right not at the expense of other rights. and that's the balancing act so if if.

you're. if you're trumping other rights. or you are discriminating against. another group to make room for this new. group of victims or whoever you consider. to be. marginalized right now you're just now. you're just moving money from one column. to the other but you're not really. actually making the world more equitable. right you're you're actually so so so. the idea would be. if you have to have california if you're. a public traded. company in california you had to have if. you had a board of. seven if you had a board of five two had.

to be women if you had a board of seven. four or three had to be women they just. enforced that right so you have to have. women. on your board now they want color now it. has to have diversity so if you are. if you're the boy if you represent the. board you're on board of a company. which makes decisions for the company. okay it's a publicly traded company yeah. you now have a diversity quota and you. now have an this is enforced. i don't know if they got the diversity. quota through post but they did with the. female quota so the board cannot be all.

male no matter what. so if you have so so the idea is if. you're really qualified for the job but. you happen to have balls. you know and a dick or whatever or a. certain chromosome. you are excluded you can't damn you got. to take a backseat so now now you're. discriminating against men. for having perhaps biology and now you. have to have a conversation about. biology and if you're going to have. if you're going to enforce biological. women are allowed have must be on the. boards. well now what about what about. genderfluid people.

what about are you going to represent. transition that is why you relocate to. another state where they're not that's. what happens. right because it's just don't know how. to do business that way because if you. have a business. and you and you're you're responsible. your shareholders you go wait i want the. best people i don't give a [ __ ] what. they. are i want the best people on the on. yeah especially if it's a small. family business now you got your son. cutting his penis off just so we can. work at the shop. you know what i'm saying like no but. this is publicly traded you're going too. crazy. okay my bad man but yeah it's just like. but it just feels like that as a small.

business owner you feel like well if my. business ever grows i'm gonna have to. [ __ ] you know. you know get you know i have to install. a dick on my wife just to [ __ ] make. ends meet over here. but that paranoia in your head as a. business person. you're like i'm gonna go to a place the. government comes in and forces you to do. that that's. that's mandated and and so now what. you're doing is you're enforcing. equality. yeah you're enforcing equality of. outcome not equality of opportunity. and what they're doing in hollywood if. you want your movie to be in.

in the oscars now being oscar oh yeah. you need to have an amoeba in there. you got to have you have you have to. have color in the cast but you have to. have color. behind the scenes too now but it's. gotten which look i think it should all. be. i kind of believe it should all be based. on just the percentages of the people. that are in the country like. you know if the if ethnicity is a. certain percent then that. percentage should be in trouble with. that because i think oh my god it's. terrible idea. terrible idea because because then then. then you're then again.

all you're doing is looking at numbers. and p you. you need the people that get a job. should be the ones who are the best for. the job. right i agree that's what it is if if if. most of the people that are great for it. yeah if most people are great for the. job. are all black women then all black women. should be in there. right if it's all asian and all asian i. don't give a [ __ ]. whoever's best for the job man yeah and. have blind auditions the way they did. so with with uh orchestras they were all. male so they started just having blind. auditions so you couldn't see if it was. a man or woman playing that instrument.

yeah you go behind a curtain and play. and you just have to. guess what women now represent even. more than half of the uh of the. instrumentation. in uh i think the san francisco. philharmonic and the new york. philharmonic oh yeah you see a lot of. those harmonics a lot of ladies out. there a lot of dimes out there playing. the flute on the uh. liar do you play an instrument uh what. did i play a little bit of piano. oh yeah yeah for real i'm getting me a. little huh i got me a little. nice little place over there and um at.

the moment in nashville i gotta place an. airbnb. airbnb i'm keeping my place here but i'm. getting a nice piano yeah i'm gonna take. you are you gonna be there. uh march 3rd i'm doing another live. podcast you are. another live podcast martial at zany's. yeah. oh well i know i i forgot yeah i i got. to start promoting it. i'll be there me and steve byrne we got. travis trick coming on we got jordan. peterson coming back home oh really. oh man i love that guy pretty excited. about this here's a beautiful lady right. here or uh or. she is this could be a man i have your. jordan peterson book too.

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um yeah so i went to school in i went to. friends schools. in lebanon when i was a kid and uh. war-torn lebanon huh that's right i was. in the war there for. for about seven months we were evacuated. to greece and then uh i will be. i i've already [ __ ] fell apart. everywhere you go kind of [ __ ] falls. up across the park dude. yeah not to say that with you right here. but no but i was doing some cia work i. was. i was organizing coos oh yeah yeah dude. brendan's still coos sometimes that guy.

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that's it's a never ending. so how you figured out in the west we. figured out a way around this stuff. i mean i'm not saying the west didn't. have its share of. all kinds of prejudice and all that but. the west has done a really. at least the west is the first country. to talk about it and tackle it head on. yeah and and respect the rights without. killing. killing people that's again so so you. know so so but but the west the idea the. idea. on saying we've implemented it very well. but much better than any other country.

the idea is you treat people as. an individual if because because if you. start. categorizing people you'll never run out. of categories. yeah i mean if you want to include men. and women on the board and that's. mandated. what about what about people under four. feet tall. what about dwarves what about dwarves. what about. um what about people who have who are. deaf. where are we we need to death man where. are we going to stop this what about the. blind. you you are going to what about trans.

are are you going to have are you going. to have to have. represent every category you would never. run out of categories. why you treat people as individuals if. you have a meritocracy it's the only way. at the level of detail. to run a society you can't do it any. other way. yeah and and when you and also i don't. mind if you have a company and you don't. even ask people. i don't think you should ask people of. sexual orientation or any of that. because. obviously who cares well obviously you. don't want to give somebody a reason to. discriminate so don't make anything.

right yeah that's the thing it's like by. not yeah it's like everything has just. become such a thing it's imp it starts. to feel impossible to even communicate. and the tough part is that you know i. say a lot of times that tech tech is the. new fossil. fuel you know it's like bandwidth is the. new oil it's like. we're all slaves yeah and it's like. we've. and it's monopolies man they're oh it's. insane it's absolutely insane. but i wish that someone would come out. with an app and but the problem is they. wouldn't be able to platform it now.

that would tell you which companies. support which what their beliefs are. that way you could start to have dual. company you know come. people that aren't as yeah you can start. a competition where then it's going to. be like. okay yeah i'm like i might have some of. these beliefs but also some of these. beliefs. i want to support a company that has. more beliefs like i have you know. um wow but then i i just feel like you. i don't know then it would start to. affect the company's pocketbooks and.

then you wouldn't see so many companies. i feel like be so outspoken. make their employees feel like they have. to vote a certain way or this type. yeah like i worry about i wish there. were more options for. and there are becoming more and more. options for technology. yeah there are there is technology. that's that's coming out. where you won't be as as reliant on all. the massive companies at least i'm. hopeful. i don't think that's good for anyone but. i am concerned and i am sympathetic to. big tech's.

worry about misinformation mal. information and disinformation. that's very dangerous but that's always. been out there like oh you could always. listen to an idiot. i know but say you have a platform say. you say your facebook. okay and and you you you have a. technology that you've invented. okay and everybody's on facebook and all. of a sudden the government of a country. because it's worldwide the government of. that country says. they start planting stories on facebook. that you know are categorically false.

that are demonizing a minority um. political group because they might be. the hugers they might be the rohingya. they might be whatever in certain. countries. yeah and you go and you start talking. about how. how they they kill children or they you. do whatever to rouse up. the majority in your country's ire to. rouse up their anger. and you just start planting fake stories. and you get more and more people more. and more outraged. about cnn whatever it might be and now. you have now you have a.

vigilante mob of 5 000 that have all. been talking on facebook. and they decide let's go kill these. rohingya. right these eugers these uh. these trans people these these. republicans or these democrats over here. or these liberals or these conservatives. over here right. history is full of that i mean the tsar. in russia when the economy and [ __ ] was. going bad. he would say you know what let's blame.

the jews. let's go hey hey hey all you guys it's. the jews that are doing this. so you'd have mobs of of men with. bats and knives and they would come into. the jewish pales the ghetto. and [ __ ] burn down the synagogue and. kill as many people as they could and. rape everybody and do all kinds of. horrible things. that was the story of the jew in russia. forever and that's where the zionist. movement was born.

the idea was if this is going to keep. happening we're going to keep getting. killed. we need a homeland we need a homeland we. have nowhere to go because we're always. a minority. so what i'm saying is that now with. facebook. and with big tech if you're allowed to. spread it from if you're really. organized about it. and you're allowed to spread information. that is categorically false. but it's also galvanizing an enemy. galvanizing people to actually take. violent action. right like people that trade pokemon. cards almost but they're what if they're.

doing it which apparently they were i. think at the rohingya i think in burma. or whatever. myanmar came from so people were really. doing this they was meeting on facebook. groups and then. for having a beliefs and then going out. and taking action yes. so now so now you have someone like mark. zuckerberg what's zuckerberg and all of. them supposed to do. they're responsible they're looking at. the moral responsibility they're looking. at the. they're looking at all the. responsibility looking at the financial. i mean. the legal responsibility but it's also.

just a moral thing but also a problem. because they don't know how to deal with. that. i wouldn't know how to deal with that. how the [ __ ] do you deal with that so. now you got to get really really kind of. uh. you've got to get really draconian about. it now you got to be like look if you. guys are going to start talking about. uh masks that aren't not being effective. are you going to start talking about how. vaccines are not effective which by the. way they are effective. if you're going to start talking about. that and you're gonna start spreading. all these like. documentaries that don't have any basis. in science i'm just using as an example. i guarantee i'll get a lot of [ __ ] just.

for saying that but but. if you keep doing that right um. they have to kind of go the science is. saying this. and you guys are saying this they have. to take a stand. right but then you're going to be stuck. by by what that person's views of the. world are and what they. tough like because what if they have a. total their upbringing is totally. they live for from a complete different. place and i think you have a lot of. these people are all from the same spot.

the same type of tribe and the same type. of. you know uh there are a lot of the same. just type of people. yeah so so i just did an interview with. milk yeah i did an interview with. aleister bostwick. it's on youtube now and he's he's uh he. was a reporter for huffington post. for buzzfeed and now he works for. verizon.com which is he kind of like. you know he's a really good journalist. he just did a crazy video on on woody. allen and how one sided that piece was. on on woody allen i mean he's basically. defending woody allen but you know just.

a liberal guy. but he said he was talking about how i. said to him i said. why is the press so left wing and he. goes because most of the people who are. in the press are from. la and new york and chicago and the big. cities. and they just happen to be younger. people who tend to lean left it's not. like a conspiracy. they said they tend to be socially. progressive and so what you're going to. get is you're going to get. more people in journalism who happen to. be of that. the way he was describing it was really. right that makes sense kind of yeah so. like you said it's the same ilk if you.

have if you have one particular ilk and. they're usually educated. they're usually super educated from. really good schools and they tend to. come from socioeconomic backgrounds that. are of higher. class right so they have a different but. that perspective of the world. growing up like like dude some of my. richest friends have been the absolute. most scared about this pandemic uh. smartest friends have been the most. scared about this pandemic. that it's just ridiculous you know like. exactly so i think there's a level there. too where it's just so overkill.

and so out of touch with what like a. regular working day-to-day. man and woman couple yeah that wants to. have a traditional kind of lifestyle. yes and then everything is this but then. you have a lot of those types of people. who are far left who end up being. 40 year old women who are lonely who. have no [ __ ] children. and who are trying to like get you know. fly down to barbados to. jump start their wombs somehow on some. fabled machine or something you know or. wandering around their house and dying.

their hair [ __ ] 75 colors and [ __ ]. sawing their tits off for magic or. whatever like it just gets. so then you have a lot you have a lot of. people who are just. unspoken for and who feel unspoken for. even just to ask questions and then. that's where it gets really really. spooky. well you know you ever heard the. expression weird so so. because i'm not like some right-wing. trumper but also i'm a person who. believes i should be able to talk about. stuff. and ask questions and not feel weird if.

i want to for. also say stuff and get something wrong i. agree like how else do you. even i agree be a comedian the whole. but just so scary that you're even. having to be careful like we are both. very careful right now on a podcast. about what we're saying and how we're. talking that never used i have to be. careful because i don't know what i'm. saying a lot of times too so my brain is. very careful because it doesn't know. what i'm talking about a lot of times. but. like you said you're allowed to be. you're allowed to get it wrong. right but so now you have a gr you have. a society people they feel like they're.

not allowed to get anything. at least to trial and error that's right. you have a ton of people that feel that. way. yeah how does that feel to some i mean. uh it's just that's debilitating. that's debilitating to people it is. debilitating it's awful. i mean it's funny because when they did. any experiment they ever did right. so if you think about like um anything. you know frankenstein well no. any that would be one frankenstein is a. good. the man tried it on his brother look at. louis van gaal look at.

uh do you know you know what. frankenstein symbolized. the idea that machines were taking over. machines were now taking over humanity. wow we're having the same talk. 100 years later about how machines are. going to take over. and and make man obsolete that was. something that. that mary shelley who wrote that book. was that was the thesis of that book. like. when man meshes with machine we'll lose. our humanity. it's kind of [ __ ] you know cyclical. but most of. most of the studies on economics on.

social behavior. on social we all talk about whatever it. might be like you know when you say. things like. well most people you know most people. tend to be more emotional about this. it was all done on what they call. their acronym is weird western um. industrialized educated rich. developed uh people from those countries. from westernized educated industrialized. rich developed countries so most.

professors were doing their their. [ __ ]. experiments on people who are college. educated. or at least you know uh had had money. were. from a developed country definitely like. europe or america. there was never any of it done on people. who came from other parts of the world. who didn't come from. industrialized developed educated. backgrounds. so so much of what we know is is has. been skewed just by the nature of how. experimentation was done and who is. available to do the experiments on.

you know what i'm saying yeah it's like. that so we we keep running into these. issues. we keep running into these issues yeah. man look it's it's spooky time to be. it's like is it spooky it's a great time. to be alive it's the only time that we. get. that we know of right now i'm scared. it's also it's a. it's a scary time um but there has to be. there's always like a way out of things. it's like. i mean for example like you know you can. still. if you shut yourself off to some of the.

media. and you just let it go and do its thing. you can. still live a normal. uh straight yeah. life or gay life whichever you want. you don't have to get into the fights. you don't have to engage in it. because some of it is out of my control. yeah. but then also it's like every voice that. was even like questioning or anything. is has been extremely silenced.

and that's not good you know i don't. feel like that that kind of stuff is. good no. that's the problem the other argument. like sam tripley and i always have these. arguments on. oh i've talked to sam dude oh it's great. but we we have this podcast conspiracy. social club. and i debunk conspiracies right he seems. to win a lot but. by the way by the way if you watch. conspiracy social club i think we may. have to move. over to rockfin because they took us off. vimeo really patreon didn't let us do. that yeah because they don't allow any.

conspiracy talk even though i debunk it. vimeo should be lucky to have anybody on. that [ __ ] i know but they took us. down because they have a strict policy. against. and i'm like i'm an anti-conspiracist. i'm trying to debunk it. but you know they're like no you know so. i you know i i don't know what they're. yeah i don't know what the practice well. it's just become general and blanket. which is crazy because that's the same. thing that they that that. like like kind of left. leaning things say that people are doing.

about gender and stuff but you're doing. it. in the term the term words that you use. to terminate like anything that pops up. yeah and i'm trying to in earnest debunk. conspiracy that breaks my heart and and. uh you know so we have to go that's why. you got to get a glock dude you got to. get your family have one and go. be somewhere i know you know and i think. that's what a lot of people a lot of. people are saying this rat race. doesn't even accept me anymore. they not only that but they mistreat me. on social platforms where i'm even just.

trying to be. a regular person who errors. and who is human honey man and trying to. be funny or just trying to be human. yeah like and it's just a lot of it is. people who. never wanted to take any risks just. sitting somewhere. flowing into this they're going to. always exist though it's the problem is. corporations the money. listens right the money. you know until consumers that's why you. need to get an app that sends people to.

different places. they can support companies that. also mimic some of their beliefs or at. least. are open to it because then once it. starts to affect. the pocketbooks of companies they'll. quit the [ __ ] how about due process. how about just that. how about so so so you know if disney's. gonna completely cancel gina carano for. writing bebop boop and just. and having a clumsy comparison to the. holocaust which wasn't even that clumsy. compared to a lot of people who are on. the left who didn't get cancelled.

yeah you know if you're going to do that. then then until consumers. say i'm not i'm not upping my. subscription to disney i'm not watching. lucasfilms anymore. right until they do that and until. disney sees that that. when they cancel someone like gina. carano or they cancel anybody due to due. process. they get it actually hurts their dollar. it actually hurts their sales because. right now they just don't want to deal. with. any kind of twitter thing but it's so. crazy who gives a [ __ ] about.

it's just like they do because they. don't want to deal with the backlash. because those voices are so loud and. they'll go away in a week yeah not. not when but it's just it creates. too much bad press because what what. does the press do the press needs clicks. the press everybody in the press talking. to aleister bosworth again. about this he's like it when you're when. you're a [ __ ] journalist. you want clicks you want to create. sensation. you're right you want it right right. yeah right you you can't do if you're.

going to do a documentary on mia farrow. and woody allen. you can't take a balanced approach. nobody wants to see it they want you. want a hit piece the way the michael. jackson thing was. you got to you got to come up you got to. come hard from one angle right. because then we're like yeah we got a. bad guy and a good guy right so this is. and then this is dustin poirier taught. me this man he said. this is when that mike perry thing came. up mike perry had done some things he. was kind of losing. losing it he was going through a tough. moment like about eight months ago or a. year ago. and i was talking to dust one time he. goes you know man i don't click on that.

kind of stuff when people send me that. kind of stuff i don't click on it. because i don't want that in my world he. said. i don't want that in my world i don't. want to look at people that i care about. or other humans in ways where people. are just um trying to pinpoint them into. one little space or one little moment. good for him he just said it's not fair. and so. since then i've tried to stay off of. like when people sent that kind of [ __ ]. don't send me that it but it's it's like. this porn we're. we use it as porn yes so as long as we.

keep doing that yes. it's that's kind of stuff's gonna keep. happening as long as you keep rewarding. right cancel culture and you do it by. clicks we do that by clicks. when you click on it yeah that then you. [ __ ] saying i support this even if. you don't. that's right that's what's crazy so. that's where the weird addiction comes. in it's like. we're just just also like look like the. fact that disney makes amazing products. and my kids love their movies. when a massive company like that you. know cancel someone like gina carano.

and we still you know we're still. patrons of that company. in a way we're all complicit right it's. so. hard to fight man it's hard to fight. because there's such tech is the new. fossil fuel man. yeah that's the oil what happened with. this this country singer who used the. n-word. he didn't really i think people kind of. galvanized did people kind of go. this is too much or what happened he's a. i mean morgan's a friend of mine he was. on a podcast. he was on a couple months ago he used it. he called his friend the n-word in the.

street he came back and apologized he. said. i'm gonna try to do better and you know. the media did what they did they ripped. him up. what got me about that i mean obviously. like. it's like he called his friend [ __ ] ass. [ __ ] right to a white dude and i think. a lot of white people should be called. the n-word. i got called it a bunch growing up i. still get called it sometimes by this. dude that lives in the park the black. guy by me will call me every now and. then.

i like it a little i'll be honest that's. who i am makes you feel included. yeah it does something bro you know like. sometimes. no joke i was walking with a girl a. couple weeks ago and the guy said it. and i know she didn't hear him and i. [ __ ] said hey say it louder bro. you know and he did and he said it. louder bro he's a black guy he can say. it right he can like in a way you feel. like he trusts you. and he knows that you're not a. prejudiced white guy right he knows i'm. not a spock. in a way he feels like he's he's saying. it's like a tournament of endearment. for you like yeah it was like a code i.

got to wear for a couple seconds gave me. a little bit of clout with the dame you. know. or the man whatever she was i don't know. what she's chosen to be i didn't check. i'm glad you cleared that but um yeah. but what got me was that. and this and and i'm is that suddenly. there were news articles that would. never even. watch morgan that was the guy's name. yeah. that would never even and they're. they're using it in their titling like. the n word the n word so they're. basically using the n word to get you to. go.

of course so who's really using it one. guy who uses it on the street calling. his white friend. or the white press that makes money by. getting clicks that's what burn. and it's like man all of them go. i can get the story now i can use the. n-word and now i can get we can get more. online subscriptions there's money in. clicks. yeah and as long as there's money and. clicks and there's money in telling your. readers your echo chamber exactly what. they want to hear and. what they believe anyway and already. you you will you will continue to to.

polarize the press. and now you look at anything that comes. out of huffington post you like i know. exactly how they feel so why am i going. to read this. right or fox oh here we go but it's like. um. here's a question but what else does. that thinking i have one more thought on. this. but it's just when they when. i mean and he came out and said for. himself you know he said you know. what he wanted to say on it so it's like. it's his thing. but some i don't know sometimes you feel.

like it'd be. it's just crazy how you can go and buy. the on certain platforms you can buy the. n-word and listen to it. you know you can pay two dollars for it. 1.99 for a song and go listen oh yeah. you know it's like maybe don't make it. available to white people. well i think that that this guy somehow. got like he. they tried to cancel him and i think his. fans were like now we're gonna buy all. his stuff. oh he'll have the biggest tour in the. world in a couple years.

his music is just great yeah i mean i. think you know uh and he's a great kid. i was at his house a couple nights. before the video stuff. and there were black guys over there. with him he had it's not like i'm sure. i've seen racist people yeah he's not a. racist guy he's not a racist guy. so and that's obvious to most human. people with a brain. yeah but yeah but intention doesn't. matter anymore. it's just consequence what's this. question i see a guy asking a question. yeah let's get out of this sorry and i. didn't really want to talk about that.

but it's okay we're just we're covering. a lot of bases right now hold on fellas. how you doing. sitting here ripped off my gourd right. now off some of those good oregon derby. shires. and got a question for you. if you had to give each other three. compliments that didn't have anything to. do with comedy or a mullet. what would they be it's a hockey haircut. first of all. that's good that's a great question. three compliments. that had nothing to do with comedy or. the mullet. i would say this oh you wanna uh who.

goes first nick. uh brian okay go go one go every other. fine i'm your boss but brian. i would say i would say. that you're um i i think you have a very. original brain. and i love that about you okay and i. think i mean i'm not allowed to talk. about comedy but. it it's it's very difficult to separate. your you see you have what's called. original expression you're just original. you're an original generally and that's.

so [ __ ] rare. and then i think you're um you're very. loyal. you're a loyal [ __ ] dude and you. um also have overcome. something i think most people don't even. understand. i mean i think what you've overcome over. your family. your mother and all that i don't think. anybody realizes how huge that is. i don't and i think that's that always. is going to be. something that you're contending with.

but the wrestle. you know that jacob's ladder thing when. he wrestled the angel the angel that you. wrestle on a day-to-day basis. is what makes and you're winning that. you're winning whether you know it or. not you win it every day and it's. it it actually makes the world a better. place so your. trauma and i believe it's trauma i. really do i've watched your old stuff. when you were young talking about your. life and your childhood. the trauma that you went through has not. beaten you. it has made the world a better place.

that's why people love you and i don't. think. you would be who you are without the. irony is you wouldn't be who you are. without that that almost impossible. thing to deal with. that that thing that would break most. people and. it you never let it you just turned it. into something. very special so that's my compliment. those are my three compliments for theo. vaughn. that's why yeah well thank you bro. that's sweet of you to say man uh you're. gonna find three things on me this is. cashmere though. i don't know if i'm gonna i mean you're.

such a good expressionist man. um i would say for one i would say. you're. uh your. ability to take a moment to give. valuable interaction is something that. is very rare um. i've had a couple moments with you over. the years that i can remember. even one of the first ones going back to. uh at the. uh bruco when you told me.

i was asking you something about comedy. and you know and you had a conversation. with me just about learning as much as i. could you know and just you know if. you'll learn as much as you can then. you'll have so much. so many uh tools to. be comedic from you know um. to even things now from growing up to. recommend in books. um you know just different things if i'm. going through. like yeah sharing stuff like different. you know experiences from childhood. trauma and one. wanting to like discuss that and needing.

some support. um you know you actually like even if it. takes a day or something for you to call. back or to get back when you do. you give uh some time that's real. um that really feels. uh valuable and important and so i don't. want to say thank you for that man it's. really sweet of you. okay um because when i hear you i hear. somebody that. it's like a voice that like a male voice. that's educated that i did. never just and is like.

kind of educated but also good at. injecting it into. the flow of. immediate life and so it's hard to do. that it's such a. skill that so few people have um. so thank you i'm lucky to be privileged. to see some of that and to experience it. firsthand. um outside of that i would say. probably symmetrical i would say. symmetrical probably. i would go with that and it doesn't have.

anything to do with hair i would say. symmetrical. uh i would say. um your your vitality. for life i think you stay you're like a. [ __ ]. vain you know is what you are. you're like keep moving keep moving yeah. no matter what happens. keep growing keep moving you're you're. don't stop moral. you're a [ __ ] femoral vein dude. you're rolling through the big bones you. can't stop you know what i'm saying you.

ain't out of here in a damn tarpal. you know what i'm saying picasso said. picasso said i think he called it. sweeping the alley like picasso was like. no matter what famine karate or. all that keep painting keep painting. keep painting that's crazy so when he's. 90 years old he was painting on the. level he was painting at when he was 40. for real. i went to i went to his i meant to a of. a show that he had. it was his work i think he did it when. he was 90. and i would listen to the. the you know art historian explain what. he was doing. i was like this [ __ ] is 90.

and he's he was painting on the level. that's beyond. like he was still doing it at the. highest level. that's crazy i was like if that's the. case if that's where the bar is man. i'm [ __ ] i can never stop yeah but. they're. you know it's hard i just hope i'm. allowed to you know you just keep hoping. that you. in one way or another can can continue. to be. expressive and continue to do what you. love yeah. like i never like i mean i'm i'm you. know not an idiot but i'm definitely. i'll be.

you know i'm i will mill around with. idiots bro and i will definitely. read books i've read six or seven times. dude and not know what happened that. happened that's normal. okay come on man but uh what i'm saying. is that. [ __ ] man i forgot about it but uh it's. it's uh i said i was a vain. i was femoral i was a female yeah okay. femoral vein. so that's two i think those are two. things i think a femoral artery. okay vein i think the difference is what. an artery. that an artery comes out it goes and.

arteries yeah it's from the heart and. it's. um yeah yeah you're not like. that artery is more of like a. a it's more of a super highway yeah. you're a little bit more of that service. road. am i yeah kind of like bumpy a little. bumpy yeah there's definitely some. potholes there's some potholes there's. some zoning issues you can't be you. can't be a smooth highway and be a comic. no you can't you gotta have you gotta. have all you gotta have some plaque up. there there's some left turns or. something like. dead ends you got some varicose [ __ ] you.

got some backed up. yeah some backed up like coagulated. blood there's some plavacid. in the [ __ ] yeah i don't even know. what plavis it is but you gotta have. some [ __ ] you can't identify this big. pharma is [ __ ] starting to play a. role in this plan. what the [ __ ] is that we don't know we. don't know but put on your mask because. we gotta get through this [ __ ] right now. your grandparents are dying jim brewer. has this great bit now he's like. grandmother's dying it's like he's. [ __ ]. impersonating a nazi [ __ ] i love him. i love yeah you know as you get older.

i'll tell you this i'm a lot older than. you and you get less sure. of of uh any kind of a truth. really in a way now that's another thing. i was gonna ask you how does aging. happen. in your beliefs and in your thoughts. like what starts to happen. you you know i i tend to become more. um i tend to become more compassionate. for people who have a totally different. point of view than i do right. wow so i'm i'm a white straight male. right fine.

i'm not saying you have it easy if. you're a white straight male i'm not. saying but i'm saying that if i was a. black woman. if i was uh if i was. a native american from or an indigenous. person a first nation person from. winnipeg if i was from a small indian. village in the south of india. i would have a very different point of. view. that's true on the world on what's right. on what's wrong on what's fair what's. unfair.

on what i was afraid of and what i. wasn't afraid of. if i was a black man for the most part. even if i had money. even if i was privileged with an. education yeah if i drove by. i know this if i was driving by two. white cops. okay maybe not now but certainly. nine months ago right i would have. turned my music down. i would have put my glasses on i might. have rolled my window down. set my wallet on the dashboard whatever. it is right. right whatever it is a little bit like.

the way we talk now about anything. that's. that's considered politically incorrect. we're now aware that big tech might shut. us off. right that was what it's like that's. what it was like always so as i get. older. and i read more and i and i try to take. that perspective of i don't know. it tends to make me a little bit more. compassionate and a little less attached. to my. cognitive beliefs because i know how my. brain works right it's. from reading my brain works like this. i'm an emotional creature.

so i have a set of beliefs that were. given to me. by people i loved like my mother and my. father like the culture i come from. and media like what worked for me and. media right. so i have a set of beliefs like this and. so what happens is when you have that. set of beliefs. you're going to try to find evidence to. support your beliefs. so if you start talking about socialism. i'm automatically going to have an. argument. right i'm a capitalist quote-unquote or. i'm a free-market guy. right i'm a libertarian but then i.

then i'll read a book and i realized. that a lot of the basis of what i'm. making all my philosophy on is. not necessarily grounded in evidence and. that somebody over there. who has a different point of view has. something to offer me. has something to enlighten me on so this. is a process so i guess what i'm saying. is that as i get older i realize i'm a. work in progress. don't be too attached to. everything you believe i love that don't.

don't be so sure that everything you. know and believe is true okay that's. really important. and be willing to change your mind based. on evidence. and be able to see the evidence when. it's in front of you. well right i agree with you man and i. think a lot of and i've even noticed in. my own life over the past nine months. over the past year. i've gotten very a lot of people are. very stuck to their what their. their beliefs because it's some of it's. a safety mechanism. yes they feel attacked they feel like. they don't know the other side weaponry. over there.

right yeah right so yeah it's like you. start to feel. um and you feel like they're not doing. that so why do i have to. you know it's like uh. it's interesting how like a lot of that. flint has flared up over the past year. well there's a documentary on. netflix called crack and remember crack. babies. crack baby okay i know a guy that was. all the time [ __ ]. that was all [ __ ] there were no. crack babies crack crack babies weren't. born that way. most of the time it was a woman a woman.

who was. doing drinking marijuana but it wasn't. that crack itself was creating a whole. generation of. kids who are addicted to cocaine that's. not oh yeah i never heard that i just. heard like if you had a real skinny baby. and he had jewelry on. but yeah but again that's what i always. heard. again you can you can also add to that. black baby you can also add that black. woman giving birth to black baby. right so what happened with the crack at. them epidemics i said your crack baby's. born to a mother.

who's addicted to the crack now i. promise you in. every americans every white americans at. the media. and even movies like like boys in the. hood. the woman was holding a baby. and saying something like i'll do. whatever it takes right. crack right it was a black woman it was. always demonizing a black woman. it's just true so if you're a black. woman in the hood try to make ends meet. you can't afford to leave a battle zone.

and you're trying to raise your kids and. there's a thousand other things you're. dealing with. and now that's going on in the media. you're being demonized. right you know so so so because that was. the narrative. right and so you'd have a very different. perspective on america. oh i would have who you were if you were. a black woman especially living in the. 80s. my generation my generation how the [ __ ]. wouldn't you have a chip on your. shoulder oh. dude yeah look i think about that a lot. of times i think sometimes there's a. people don't realize like i've talked to.

before about like disney world like you. see the. the advertising for disney world there. was always white kids at disney world. yeah so if you're a black kid and you're. watching that how would you not feel. like oh this isn't even for me you. weren't represented in in cartoons. right anything well but there's some. stuff is that that's not entirely true. like some of my favorite shows were. black. acted shows so like you know you had. samford and son you had in the heat of. the night which had a. black characters in it some of my. favorite um althea tibs is one of my. favorite. characters ever from uh from a drama you.

know they had a lot of. uh and what was the one um and i know. i'm just saying the one but there was a. lot there was the one with the cops. there was cosby which was huge. that did a lot that was like oh look. there's a black family just like a white. family there's a black doctor. they said he's in my living room every. day you know that was that whole that. was that. that was an important show in that sense. but i could imagine yeah but when i was. growing up there wasn't any black. doctors in our town no. well i so this is where i get i get the.

i get. where black activists where white. you know activists where woke people are. coming from. if you actually look at the history of. this country. just go back 20 years 15 years see i. don't i'm not. liberal this way i'm not like a woke. person i do like fair play though. i've always wanted exactly fair if you. show me where something's not fair. i'm right there i'm like i got it i get. it i get it. oh man i remember putting a jesse.

jackson sign out in front of our. apartment growing up. like i remember um i was a david dukakis. fan like. i really resonated with a lot of people. i say david duke. oh i used to lift weights of david duke. everybody knows that though did you yeah. you worked out with david duke yeah he. shared a fence dude he used to date the. hottest chick at the seafood restaurant. i worked at is that right. god you you lived near david duke she. was hot. yeah still my folks still share a back. fence not far from them that's hilarious. david they call him d duke around the.

neighborhood d duke. he's a beautiful little uh pomeranian. white. i won't say that but yeah that would. make sense um. but yeah there's just a lot to it man. there's a lot to it but yeah to think. that. i think the part that gets me a lot of. times it's people it's. it's people have now become like it's. like. people use the woke stuff for clout and. it's not even about the argument anymore. and then i also start to see. i've always thought about like equality. fairness i see a lot of like black.

supremacy. jewish supremacy i see some people uh. you know um indian supremacy. i see a lot i don't like privilege i. don't like supremacy. yeah i don't like it any time when. people start to get stuff into supremacy. marcellus wiley was that that guy's name. he had a great quote about it a while. back um. that's the part where it starts to make. me feel angry bro. i don't like any type of supremacy bro. like um. it just because then it's not about.

everybody well you're assigning. something called. group guilt what you're doing is you're. saying that entire group is guilty. and if you do that we know how that. works out in history too right. because when you when you assign guilt. to an entire group. just for their color just for their. gender just for their uh so it's your. economic background yeah. now if you do that just remember that. you can that's a double-edged sword you. can turn that sword on the other group. just as quickly yeah if you do that to.

that group when you're done with that. group. you're next you know and and so and and. what happens is if you have group. guilt then you usually have to have. a group that rectifies that guilt. and one need only look at the world. today forget history. and see how that works out for people. who are. assigned group guilt they're killed. they're jailed they're put in. concentration camps. they're they're quote unquote. marginalized in the worst way possible.

so. let's all be careful about that [ __ ]. yeah that's why that's the problem with. identity politics. that's why i'm very like now one thing. i'm not on the fence on is i am very. against identity politics. i think it's [ __ ] the worst i don't. even know what it is. it's the idea that you are you are you. are essentially breaking people up into. their groups. and you are assigning guilt or you are. assigning victimhood. to varying degrees to different groups i. mean that's that's what you do. and those groups that have traditionally.

been in a position of quote-unquote. supremacy. or in a position of privilege have to. take now a back seat or whatever or are. like give me an example so i know what. i'm well well the idea behind. um identity politics would be you know. we have. even when you start talking about the. black vote versus the asian vote. versus the white vote you're already. creating groups you're already saying. that you're already creating a monolith. you're suggesting that black people. think the same way like there aren't.

that there are people it's hard not to. do that. first as it gets right but also when you. start doing that when you start when you. start. saying we need a quota we need. representation from this group because. this group has been left. out you're playing a form of identity. politics. because when you do that when you when. you privilege one group over the other. or you start detracting just based on. group. not based on skill based on biological.

attributes you have to have an enforcing. mechanism you have to have. someone at the top who has the power to. make those decisions. to enforce those decisions that is a. that is a. that is something you must do through. force you must do. at the end of the day at the barrel of a. gun damn. because that's what the state does if i. say no they say yes. if i really refuse to move you get. dragged out.

by officers of the law right. they happen to have guns at the end of. the day there's no way to do that. without. some form of coercion some form of force. when you do that. and you and you and you demonize one. group. or you start to say this group is a. victim and this group has to pay for. that. what happens is you're going to push. people you're going to really push. people into groups. what you're going to do is you're going. to create the the you're going to. america will become. what a prison yard is what what what.

what a state penitentiary becomes. where you've got the aryan brotherhood. over here you've got the southern. mexicans you've got the northern. mexicans you got the black. you got this whole thing over here and. all of a sudden you create and now. you're now now the only consideration. is color and you have people that are so. obsessed with color. it's like they should be an art school. they should be in art school making. studying oil painting yeah because. that's the only criteria. and so it's a very again it's a very. rudimentary very dangerous game to play.

and i i'm not nearly as articulate about. this no it's helpful. for me it's great though because it's. good because it's like yeah this is good. practice because jordan peterson it's. like damn it's like somebody just beat. you in the face with a [ __ ] library. and talking about this you know i did i. did the first podcast with him. really yeah that's when rogan called. text me and said. um your podcast jordan peterson was. great he had he had just heard about him. and i did. you and jordan peterson rogan together. no i did the first podcast with him in. our group. no rogan rogan then put him on dang.

that's crazy. yeah how about that wow. yeah man and it was so great. i've done three podcasts with them i. think so it's such an honor. i love that guy yeah i feel pretty. excited i'm trying to think of good. questions like just to ask and just. things that i'm like thinking about. things that i'm scared about yeah i'm. gonna read the book yeah but also just. things that like i'm just worried about. and. or just like just looking for sometimes. guidance you know. yeah sometimes when you get someone that. has more experience what i like to try.

to do sometimes. to get some guidance so how do we how do. we stay away from identity politics and. stuff like that what can we do. and how do we stay funny what can we do. to stay funny in a time like this. you have to fight back you have to um. you have to recognize first of all where. identity politics came from. you have to recognize you have to. recognize what the other side. that pushes that stuff is trying to do. you have to have. you have to have better ideas you have. to remember. that what has worked for the most part.

with the west. and what other countries have not done. is that they treat people as individuals. okay you treat everyone as an individual. you treat when someone comes in for a. job whether they are trans whether they. are black whether they are native. american whether they are. straight white guy india i want to see. what you can do. let me let me try and it's very and what. they'll tell you is there's unconscious. bias. okay so they say if you're white you're. unconsciously going to be biased towards. someone who's white okay.

fine that's true i don't either but but. but this is the new thing so you have. anti-bias training here's the problem. with anti-bias training here's the. biggest problem. so the idea is you have some expert. who's taking some classes in the. humanities. and and you know and they come in and. they apparently are the experts on how. to teach you about your unconscious bias. okay. the idea then would be you take a class. and now you don't have any. either you don't have unconscious bias. or you're aware that you have. unconscious body because. okay all good the problem is you'll. never take unconscious bias out of a.

human being and by the way unconscious. bias is very important and a very good. thing most of the time or some of the. time why. if somebody has shifty eyes and clammy. hands i'm not [ __ ] they're on. you money or i'm not gonna hire you for. the job because you're sketchy i can't. explain why. yeah but you give my gut you give my gut. my intuition uh the notion that you. ain't no good. yeah and i need that because that's how. i keep my money that's how i keep. safe i keep my family safe yeah well.

that's how women keep from [ __ ]. keep state stay safe when they see a guy. who's something. something's over there so my mother told. me that one time she goes out there was. a guy. and the way he was standing i knew he. was he was looking to get jump me. i knew he was looking to rape me oh yeah. and so my mother was like she just. she got a bad feeling and turned and. walked the other way. and blah blah so so we need our. unconscious. yeah you can't walk into a dark alley. filled with people like bad wolves. and just be like maybe they're good. wolves you know the guy at the.

at the at the meeting said maybe they're. good wolves give them a chance. one of them is loading a gun and. chiseling your name into the side of it. this is where critical race theory comes. in this is that this is all. comes out of the same idea that's not. enough to be not racist you have to be. actually. actively tearing down the institutions. that have given us the longest standing. democracy in the history of the world. you got to start tearing down. institutions dude i grew up like the. nuclear family apparently is bad now. yeah that's insane and that's what's.

causing a lot i mean a lot of it is. people don't have any faith anymore. there's nothing. there's nowhere to turn we could go into. all of it. yeah it's it's being talked about at. least and even even a couple of. knuckleheads like us are actually. talking about. [ __ ] this i didn't i wanted to get into. something funny i [ __ ] up. no no it's all good this could be funny. i don't know. okay here's a guy right here and this. guy might be black might be white this. dude might be jehovah's witnesses he's a. composite man. what up theo brian bright guy. the original kid callin yeah bry.

we just saw wanna know probably um you. spent a lot of time. away we all we personally missed you. i'm sure a lot of other people did too. and i think we're just all really. curious like what did you do during. that time like i uh what happened. like give us an update i think we're all. really wanting to know how you spent. that time. in gang yeah what have you been doing. brian great question. starting a podcast with steve burns big.

and hungry and hungry yeah which i was. on. yes you were which is awesome drops. every monday. when's our episode coming out uh i think. i think this monday okay and it's. [ __ ] hilarious okay i killed it cool. cool. and then you guys got yep that's big and. hungry anywhere you find podcasts. i've been doing the conspiracy social. club with sam tripoli. twice a week and that's been interesting. because now we might have to move over. to another platform. rockfin because we too hot way too too. hot. for vimeo but that's good maybe. something like rockfin starts up.

yeah i wish we would all start our own. platform but yeah. you know and i just kept you know i was. dealing with a lot of [ __ ] so i just. kept i worked out every day and i just. did you. yeah and i just tried to become a better. father and uh. you know i was i was going through a. divorce but that that ended very. amicably because me and my. ex get along really well and we we uh we. raised the kids together and. and we didn't need like we didn't need. courts and you know. we needed we needed we did some lawyer. stuff just to because it's detailed. but other than that we were we we did it.

great and i'm proud of that and i'm. proud of her for that. we we we ended it really really well. because the kids are our priority. and then uh and then i don't know man i. just [ __ ] i. brushed up on my kung fu did you yeah. dude there's something about that. staying physically active how important. uh was that man it's called. communicating with your body. that's what you do so when you do a. sport or you do anything you're. communicating with your body. you you you know it only gets harder as. you get older oh yeah yeah but that's.

almost the point. like embracing the suck you don't have. to work out an hour dude you can [ __ ]. lift for 20 minutes and kill you so i. worked out for 15 minutes yesterday i'm. sore as [ __ ]. but but the way you do it is is what. matters but then you do a sport. get good at something man i always say. this people if you're young. get good i don't give a [ __ ] if it's. salsa dancing. if you get really good at salsa dancing. it will open up a whole world for you if. you get really good at jiu jitsu if you. get really good at the flute. i don't give a [ __ ] what it is if you. get really good at anything.

that that requires like practice on a. daily basis. the answers lie there yeah and then. you're going to come in contact with. other people who have gotten really good. at things. and you're going to be introduced to so. many more. things then and so and you're going to. learn from the best it's just. there is something that's so valuable. about just having spent some time doing. things. man i've been trying to get into jiu. jitsu more you know um and i'm really. enjoying it i'm a white belt. currently wipeout white belt nation. white belt nation dude also.

hard scarf club and um i. uh i'm looking to compete maybe at some. point that's great. i don't know if i'll compete this year. yeah but. the hardest part people don't realize at. my age i have to do. yoga probably four times a week to stay. in enough. of us comfortable physical space to then. be able to go. even to the jiu jitsu class so it's like. there's so much that has to happen. outside of the place yeah um. but i started eating liver uh liver.

crisps. like liver jerky yeah to get my. i mean i'll [ __ ] dude i got a damn. menstrual cycle in the back of my throat. half the week dawg i'm [ __ ] ready to. go son let's [ __ ] go straight. i could spit in the air and a [ __ ]. waffle show up and catch it i'm. ready to go so i've been trying to. challenge myself a little bit more in. that space. and then yeah some of that learning in. jiu-jitsu it takes like the anger that's. inside of me it takes it out of my body. to be trapped by another man or young.

woman. and not have any [ __ ] recourse except. to scream into the [ __ ] abyss. as they're as they're imposing their. will on you of a [ __ ] gym where. people are laughing. i can't breathe that's amazing oh look. at theo von getting tapped. yeah it's so good for you look at him. getting tapped by this bus girl from. olive garden. yeah it's so good for you though [ __ ]. like that where you're not. i think that's the best thing you do for. your comments oh it's great you practice. [ __ ] that you're not good at and you're. having to like readjust your neural. pathways and stuff. it's like doing lsd man all of a sudden.

you're going to be thinking about [ __ ]. differently yeah like you're just not. comfortable. yeah being comfortable comfort might be. the wolf at the door. comfort look we've said it on this this. podcast before comfort will be your. coffin man it really will. and it's crazy to think that um you know. and before we go yeah like i was a. little bit nervous about having you on. just because i know you kind of been. through a lot over the past year. has it been tough to like. um has it been what's it been like for. you man. terrible has it been yeah the worst yeah.

because you can't fight back. there's nothing you can do just the way. it is and like. you know it's very interesting because. you get ready for whatever. come what man life right and then. something comes along that you don't. even know how to fight against how the. [ __ ] do you fight. something like that how do you do how in. the world do you. when you never in a million years. thought something like that would happen. in a million years because you've tried. to live your life. the best you know right helping. everybody and i don't know i can just. only. i'm not i'm not spiritual enough but you.

got to just kind of figure out how to. pivot but it's real. and it's got lasting consequences and. it's it's. true destruction but the question is who. are you in. destruction who are you when chaos hits. who are you when. everything is taken from you that you've. built over 30 years. and i don't know but i'm finding out you. know at least i'm tough at least i know. who the [ __ ] i am and. and and you know that's the other thing. i've talked to people who've been. through this and. one one of a dear friend of mine said.

the good news is you know who you are. and you know what you've done and you. sure as [ __ ] know what you haven't done. and that's what's kept me going that's. why i keep moving. that's why i'm not quiet about things. because i know who i am and i'm a good. person. and i've done everything i can to try to. make the world a better place and i'll. keep doing that the biggest thing is not. letting it take the funny away from you. that's a [ __ ] my biggest. accomplishment has been i wrote a whole. hour. in this insanity and i was funny and i.

did a good [ __ ] job. and i'll keep doing that you know that. that's that's been. you know when you can suffer well suffer. well wow. suffer with dignity and suffer. productively. and criticize by creating keep. criticizing by creating. don't criticize by complaining don't. criticize by you know. what this person did that to me that's. always going to exist i just got hit. okay now what that's good for me to hear. man because i do that sometimes i'll. fall. especially in this past year and i think.

a lot of us have we've fallen into the. complain and the fear and this. the outburst and the speak but yet to be. able to stay creative. um that's it man was there ever did has. there ever been any like. actual court case or anything that's. followed up from the accusations no not. at all okay. not at all and uh because. you're talking about an accusation that. was is 21 years old dude. this is somebody i don't want to get. into the details but right. yeah and i'm not trying to get you into. it i just wanted to know this is.

somebody i. i mean it's insane. i don't know what happened and i'm not. interested in speculating on that. um but there was never like a there. hasn't been like a court case there's. not like a. no because absolutely not. right well that's two things there's one. thing that's ready for this that didn't. do it. right right right there's there's always. that the good news is right i didn't do. it. and that's that's and i mean you know i. i'm always hesitant to say this but the. number of. women and i put it in a drop box and i.

sent it to my lawyer and my. my publicist the number of women that. have been in my life. over the past 25 years that reached out. without me. doing anything one of a couple of are. high profile. who've gone through this stuff with. harvey weinstein wow. the number of women that actually. reached out to me and said i can't. believe this is happening to you. was so heartening to me i put them all. all the texts these people i hadn't. heard from for 10 years 15 years.

when you hear it from that many people. and. you know and you get to hear it put it. all in i have it all saved. i have it all saved i have it all saved. it's pretty devastating. it's pretty cool to have that many. people that you never even. reached out to reach out to you then you. have some people you haven't talked to. in. 10 and 15 years and say hey you were a. good guy. like i can't believe this is happening. to you and i'll be a witness for you you. know that's like. you know that that's that's what i hold.

on to those kinds of things. but sometimes when somebody writes an. article it never goes away. they just you know your reputation in. many ways is destroyed. in certain circum circles or or it shuts. off your ability to do anything in. certain facets. right and so okay that happened. now what now what let's move forward. yeah but i'm never gonna shy from it i'm. never shying from it. and i'm never gonna hide and i'm never. gonna put my head down.

because i know who i am and i know the. truth and that's. and jordan peterson says in chaos all. you can do is tell the truth. damn and you know and that's what i said. to my [ __ ] the first thing i said to. my lawyer and my publicist. i go i need to know that you guys know. that i'm innocent i don't want i'm not i. don't want a hired gun. i don't want anybody who doesn't believe. fully that that this is. you know and so i i provided them with. the evidence. but that's okay well i'm sorry for not. being bra like just trying to be braver.

to be more supportive. not your job that this is a very scary. time so i'll stop you right there. this is a very scary time for everybody. because if they can come for me they can. come for anybody well i just wanted to. be able to at least to be able to have a. place where people can be heard. whatever they're to have a discussion or. just to be. to be heard about like yeah it just felt. like you'd never. even had a chance to be heard in some. way oh you you're not. you're not you know it's it's just it's. it's. we have built a world where due process.

doesn't exist. we have built a world where like it or. not and there's arguments on both sides. where allegations alone. ruin everything allegations alone. destroy your life. and that's a fact and and you know i. always. i really want to spooky man well it's. it's it's. not good for anyone not [ __ ]. halloween it's not for your brother. not for your father not for your friend. it ain't and again. i always say this you know if you want. to build a world like that where there's. no due process.

where the court of public opinion can. destroy your ability to feed your. children. you're next yeah i always say that so. you know oh yeah i i i i just don't see. how that. ends i don't see how that that ends well. um well it just gives all the power to. one side. and that's an imbalance of power is. never good so. we're we're trying to figure it out. we're all trying to figure it out. well yeah i appreciate you being here. today man and making me feel you know. and just you know talking to me about it. and and also just talking about just. whatever man you know i love you i've.

always. i've always felt like you've instilled. power in me man. really yeah i really do well i believe. in you and you're worth it. and i always tell you that when you get. down on yourself you're [ __ ]. important. you're important to my friend you. this the [ __ ] you do it's so important. to people. you know why because they laugh and you. know what happens when you laugh. you know what happens when theo vaughn. makes people laugh they forget. they're human they forget they have to. go to the bathroom they forget they're. broke. they forget they hate their job they.

forget that they. are uh that their their girlfriend's. cheating on them they forget that they. were abused. they forget it all because when you make. people laugh people just they forget. that for a second. and it's and and they forget that they. uh have to even sleep. i appreciate you crying over because. it's it's it's important that you hear. that. you are important thanks your job is. important well i appreciate you always. making me feel important bro. yeah man and thank you guys man for just. even letting me start doing podcasting.

man. yeah you were undeniable how the [ __ ]. how how are we going to deny you. you're just too undeniable and you put. your [ __ ] time in man. how much how many years did you put in. including your childhood that made you. the comic that you are. oh yeah if you include childhood dude a. decent amount of years dude. the bed wet until 30. well if you. include the [ __ ]. night shift i change my own sheets. that's why you wear those diapers that's. awesome sexy bro i remember at one point. i would take a [ __ ] like uh.

towel or sheet or something and wrap it. around like this big diaper. and stuff as many t-shirts out in there. so when i pissed again it would just. absorb it and i could still just stay. asleep how long have you left the bed. for. oh he's uh no joke 30 years old was that. right yeah man i just. was just a traumatic sleeper yeah bro i. was just fighting [ __ ]. dragons people like you're going to piss. like yeah i'm going to [ __ ] piss now. they don't [ __ ]. battling a [ __ ] orca with long arms. [ __ ]. if comics are so special and unique it's. so interesting like comics like.

what what what it was dude i remember i. used to wake up in the middle of the. night because i remember hearing that. animals could get you at night animals. could get you. could get other animals if if they. hadn't urinated in an area. and i would piss around my bed in a. circle from my bed. to keep the [ __ ] animals away god. damn right and it works man yeah and. there's nobody checking in with me to. make sure everything's okay. golden ring nobody coming in my room and. noticing that there's just. soggy spots in the [ __ ] floorboards. golden ring. it's a golden ring keep snakes away yeah. dude coaches black widows. bro yeah man god yeah what a [ __ ] bad.

vampires i think peace keeps the. vampires away. if you're a righteous man if you're a. righteous man you piss righteous. even vampires go this piss smells good. this pill. smells like it comes out of a man who. does good a man who hates himself but. puts out good in the world and makes. other people feel that they're. that they're they're okay makes them. forget they're human. well we keep doing our best man yes sir. we keep doing our [ __ ] best. appreciate you brother yeah man i'm glad. to see you uh. big and hungry you guys can check it out. obviously and uh.

one of the pioneers of podcasting right. here i'll be in jacksonville florida. comedy zone um march four five and six. zaney's march third for the live podcast. um. and where where theo vaughn will be uh. down in nashville yeah maybe i'll pop. through it. i'd love that if you came in damn it'd. be good and then we got um. i got omaha nebraska uh march 11 12 13. and then i got huntsville alabama march. 25 26 27 i think that are those dates. yeah. really stand up live have you done that. uh yeah i've done it.

it's great it's great it's right it's. not far from nashville it's. yeah it's a good club i like that green. room it's right there. [Music]. all right kids thanks man god bless. now i'm just floating on the breeze and. i feel i'm falling. like these leaves i must be. cornerstone. oh but when i reach that ground i'll. share this piece of mind i. found i can feel it in my.

bones but it's gonna take. a little time. [Music]. i'll sit and tell you my stories.

and now i've been moving way too fast on. the runaway train with a heavy load of. my hands. and these rails that i've been riding on. [Music].

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