Brooks & Dunn | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #534

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you are and thank you so much for the. support today's guests are icons in the. world of country music uh if they had a. Mount Rushmore of country you might. might see these fellas right up there on. it uh they had solo careers before they. joined together to create one of the. most popular tandems in the history of. country you know there are many hits. like neon man M Maria and me get. me and many many more their new album.

reboot to comes out November 15th it has. new takes on their classic songs with. folks like Morgan Wallen jelly roll and. Laney Wilson I am so excited today to. sit down with Mr kicks Brooks and Ronnie. dun Brooks and. [Music]. D I'll sit and tell you my story.

shine on. me and I will find song. [Applause]. sing yeah thank you guys for coming in. man good to be here good to see you guys. watch you all the time not just saying. that I watched it with post Malone the. other day I don't know how far back that. was uh uh videoed or shot oh yeah funny.

stuff man yeah he's Wild Man a cat yeah. he's he's. really he's just like an infectuous. thing kind of is it funny yeah yes sir. no sir. yeah he's like a kid who got in trouble. but he's going to keep partying you know. yeah yeah right right y well have you. stop drinking was that worst worst worst. time of your life well it's when I was. drinking you know have you stopped. no what's different well.

I mean he's he's yeah he's never thought. about it he's an interesting cat's he's. absolutely a sweetheart though you talk. to him it's like Mr you know Mr Theo you. know he's the nicest guy yeah yeah he's. super nice man you guys have had such a. career man thank you so much for all the. music yeah thanks for letting us hang. around this long you know appreciate it. been around how. long several semesters. yeah does it feel did it ever feel did. it feel like um cuz you guys got part. did you did you you guys get paired.

together or how did it kind of the. beginning become we're not going to go. through all the history but I just want. you know just so some people may not. know classic story you know right out of. the movies just friend of ours who we. both had a lot of respect for Tim du. great songwriter himself and whatever is. actually an accountant at vanderbelt as. well you know smart guy too but um he. just invited us to lunch and thought we. might uh might be a good pair up and you. know Ronnie and I are just kind of GRA. in across the table at each other it.

didn't make any sense to us and um said. look you guys can both write songs he. goes just go see if you can write a song. together okay so I think that was. Tuesday maybe Thursday we wrote Brandy. ma Friday we wrote this song next broken. heart and Ronnie had already written. Neon Moon and Boot Scoot and Boogie and. I had another song lost and found and we. just screwed up and been riding a bus. for 30 years trying to figure out how to. get off. again it's like we weren't we weren't.

Brothers growing up like people you know. challenged to did it feel like a. pressure like you had to be like like I. just want yeah like cuz with comedians. they don't really have that where you. kind they kind of partner you up I guess. for television shows and stuff they do. where they package shows but yeah I. wonder did it feel did you guys feel a. pressure like we have to or it was just. no no we felt we felt brok and hungry. yeah was some. motivation we back up a little bit none.

of this shit's really working that great. you know I mean I'd had some some. success as a songwriter written a couple. of hits and whatever and Ronnie just. been out in Oki you know hid and writing. great songs totally unheard of for. somebody who hadn't been in Nashville. really studying the craft so to say to. show up with songs like Neon Moon and. Boot Scoot and oh yeah next album. hardworking man and used to be my Ronnie. just had written all these great songs. by itself which you know now I can't.

even tell you who's out there writing. songs by themselves they'll probably. watch and go hey how about me dude but. you know it's it's a co- riding Town it. just really is it's becoming more and. more of a co- riding Town last more more. writers on every song I saw one with. nine. Riders nine Riders I mean what the heck. we used to like we'd throw a b it was. like you know three riders in the room. did it feel like over did it feel like. you guys had to CU I bet it's like once.

you get partnered with somebody it's. like d we're part this is a long ride. and you don't really know how long the. ride is when you start you know did it. feel like you guys over the years like. you had to be best friends did it ever. feel like a pressure to be like that uh. maybe but we didn't I don't think we we. took it to heart I mean it was like hey. we you Tim back up on your story a. little bit for me but Tim Tim had heard. me in a playing a bar in in Oklahoma and. he was circling through and uh Clive. Davis and he were putting label together.

so he told me he says I he says I really. I want to sign you he said I've already. got Allan Jackson and uh Diamond Rio uh. he already had a Bo singer and a band P. and it's like it's like like he's going. down the list we didn't realize this at. first but he was going down the list. going okay now I need a I said Trio I've. got a trio need now I need a Duo yeah. but he didn't we didn't know that till. after the fact the judge were breaking. up so he saw he saw an open slot on the. CMAs.

something might have been true it was. true I think it was that manipulative. yeah you know yeah I saw you guys do. your walk out with Morgan how was that. man that was cool he's got it stirred up. and it's like okay so where do. we so where how about that c did you. know about it before what it was or no I. really didn't they were trying to. explain to me what was going on and like. we're going to look back and you guys. come down the hallway and then y'all are. going to walk out together to his stage. you know we're going to film it it's a. big deal I'm like.

okay we keep up with it to extent that. we know how he's selling out stadiums. everywhere and it's like you know get. out of the way and these crashing. websites and Live Nation is you know. they if you announce ticket sales it all. you know it blows up through the roof so. and I had I had uh did a a walk- on with. him at Bridgestone when he played here a. couple years ago oh yeah I saw that show. actually was at that show yeah yeah that. was awesome yeah but yeah to do that is. kind of an interesting thing cuz you're. back there you don't really know what's. going on you know you can't you can kind.

of start to hear people cheering but you. don't really know so did you do that. with him yeah yeah I got to do one with. them here in uh in Nashville uhhuh yeah. with DeAndre Hopkins that plays for the. Tennessee Titans uhhuh yeah sure um but. it's still kind of confusing because. you're like jhop yeah uh dehop oh that's. what I meant oh what did I call. him no but we didn't when I did it we. didn't he wasn't doing the walk yet so. we we were in Kansas City the other. night with him is that right yeah no no.

no yeah we were in Kansas City yeah. Kansas City yeah that's where you guys. did to walk out with him right yeah yeah. CU it's kind of wild yeah it's just this. thing I guess they kind of just started. it yeah you don't know yeah you're right. you're just kind of thrown into The Fray. there you you just kind of don't know. what's going on am I supposed to walk. here and be cool am I supposed to like. you know rub your shoulders. or starting to get weird people are. rubbing on him and people are yeah right. it's getting it's starting to get a. little aggressive I feel like.

right and the only thing you know is. just like what you doing stop doing. that artist and they tell us they said. no he's going to walk fast okay he's. going to walk fast yeah that's it and. then off you go it'll be cool when he. just starts wrestling. yeah. turnning it's him and his agent just. back there fist fighting oh I think yeah. it's definitely bizarre because you like. you don't really know what's going on. and then he's like all right let's go. and for him it's just he's just got.

getting to you know heading to work yeah. off the walls yeah it had to be weird. cuz you get to the stage and then you. guys can't go out to the stage so it's. like yeah it's like yeah we're on it's. like stop yeah no no this is not your. show stop here and the cameras all. follow that guy yeah it really was like. that man I cuz I didn't even play. anything but I was like I could try you. know I was like let's do it right you. know that's how we were you just you. just Wing It Go with the oh yeah and. DeAndre is like he looked like he was. ready to just run a 40 yard F flat you.

know so I was like yeah let's get him. out here dude so that was interesting. man um what's it what's what's been one. of the tougher things that uh that came. with like Fame that you guys realized. cuz you guys went to being obviously you. were doing well in your careers. individually but even as you were just. saying like you know you guys the first. couple songs you put out were hits. that's right first four we're number. ones yeah yeah I mean that's a lot of. number ones dude you know we just call. some buddies up in a panic and and.

started playing honky talks and bars. even our manager told us not to do it I. said no man if if we're running off like. we're knocking hits out of the park. right now we need to have a tight band. you know when they do are we get a place. where we're in front of a lot of people. so we we went for the first year year. and a half playing clubs everywhere from. from here to California which was the. coolest it was animal the coolest men. menory the coolest memory uh for me. because I probably like Ronnie I mean.

just a lot of years of turning corners. on clubs and stuff and there' be four or. six cars in the parking lot you know and. you just have to go set up yours too ex. you know and one of them's a girl you. came to invited to impress exactly and a. couple of guys that don't like it cuz. they want her too and she's not and. she's not cute at. all yeah you set your stuff up you know. and nobody cares and whatever and then. next thing you know we're we're parking.

down the road and uh to get to a place. cuz the parking lot's full and that. those were great nights they really were. you know you really really couldn't. screw up too bad cuz it was fired up and. that's kind of what you dream about when. you're learning to tune your guitar you. know just man just just the club's part. of it I mean the whole Coliseum thing. and that that other kind of success was. I wasn't even thinking that far this was. just like man it worked.

it was so crazy cuz we don't know each. other from Adam even at that point we. don't know each other from Adam we we. would learn in interviews about that one. or another about each other yeah I got. to know you did that now as you started. to get famous I'm just curious about. this kind of stuff you know cuz Fame and. popularity is such like a it's a. interesting thing right and it's its own. thing because you can't exactly plan for. it like were there things that you kind. of missed kind of immediately about that. like cuz once you kind of once it starts. to happen it's hard to put it you can't. really put your life back into that old.

jug really no and you don't see it. coming you can't plan for it no matter. where where it is I think you know even. if you grew up around it which I didn't. but I can this is so strange still I can. remember going home after the first like. say run the real like tour when we were. opening for reer whatever and uh my wife. and and and mother-in-law going she she. said you've changed I'm like what she go. you changed she said you're not the same.

and it's. like I didn't feel like anything was any. abnormal other than I was going out on a. bus and singing in front of people I. didn't come back going you know he I'm. famous yeah yeah just but people's. perception of you changes you know don't. you think yeah and that yeah it and yeah. and it's kind of uncomfortable because. you don't you kind of wish it wouldn't. well you need that safety net of of of. normaly you know come back to especially. at home and if was just kind of all of a.

sudden you're getting pushed pushed in. the corner in Way by that whatever. perception is of Fame I just did a bunch. of acid so we're good we're heavy with. this oh I'm not even here yeah no this. [ __ ] just coming it's coming out of the. cosmic space right a mushroom not acid. acid I think that it's funny I'm just my. wheels are turning just thinking about. those times and and honestly I love. somebody made a statement one time we're. having a conversation like this and said.

yeah I want to be a star I want to be a. star I want to be a star well you people. please leave me alone you know I've. never felt that way you know I mean like. Ronnie for so many years we I was 36 he. was 38 when we met you know with nothing. going on really and I mean that's that's. a that's pretty old to just get started. with a career where you're put together. by a record company and to think you're. going to have a 30-year Plus run or. something you know it's we didn't think.

about the 30 plus year run our. philosophy was you got three three to. five years all let's maximize it let's. take what little money we make and I was. going to go our big um Janine my wife. and I just just got married in Oklahoma. so our goal was you know what interest. rates are like 10% and this was it back. tell you how far back it was interest. rates 10% we make a million dollars we. can live off $100,000 a year and live. like King. you know that we drove up to the first.

house bought this little house in. Nashville we go we're just here for a. little while save your money yeah you. know honestly I I don't know if you. remember this Ronnie but we were we were. sitting in the Nashville Airport just. shooting the pool and we've always just. I guess had kind of a. natural just a couple of guys and were. smart asses just you know just goofball. in all the time talking to people just. like like we are today and and anyway. these two girls came over and the I saw.

three of them over there talking and. they came over and asked if they could. get autograph and they had a CD and. whatever and you know we just shot the. bull back and forth a little bit and. whatever and I mean they were sweet. whatever we signed their CDs and I've. always been happy to do that glad. anybody cares you know oh yeah and uh. man a couple minutes later their friend. comes over and says our friends told us. what you said we we're getting rid of. all our CDs we've always thought y'all. were so great what I mean just he up on. us and we're looking at each other I'm.

going I'm trying to remember this. conversation what I could have possibly. said that and I I mean I like to think. of myself as a good guy nice guy and I. and I've always respected our fans and. everything else I'm like what just. happened but it made me. realize that moment that that minute. that we spent together. totally wraps somebody's impression of. and what kind of human you are and how.

they'll tell everybody they meet for the. rest of their lives that they're just. jerks you know and you just that's the. part did you ever find out what what did. you say I have no idea what we said you. were involved s must yeah that's what. I'm thinking what did you say I wasn't. there I wasn't there don't pull don't. suck me down there Rabbit Hole you feel. like you get on this one like this one. minute game show to prove to somebody. that you're okay or something I don't. know yeah that stuff it's like it's like. a job interview you got to be quick yeah.

and you yeah and you and the job is you. want them to think you're okay or. something you know you're the guy for. the job in one minute yeah yeah right. you can do it I can't yeah that kind of. stuff gets a little tricky was it tough. like um what about like having a family. and stuff in touring so much like what. were things that like yeah what what's. that like like dude is it hectic dude I. had just been married I mean we just got. Mary came up and and junee Carter Cash.

gave us a little cabin on top of the. hill next not far from their house to. live in wow and uh so she nice little. house like something out of a magazine. and but it was on top of a mountain by. itself and so was she boom we get we get. a hit right out of the the gate we're. gone uh and it wasn't too long it's like. I. mean we didn't have we had like cell.

phones but we didn't thank God have. cameras but I started getting these. terrorist faxes I called them like she. would fax the hotel cuz I I talk longer. than we talk so long on the phone they. go okay all right all right all right. I'll be home you know in two weeks I. know I understand I I get it I love you. bye you know ring I'm I'm not not I'm. not answering the phone that ain't going. to happen so not not 10 minutes later I. get this knock on the door and it's like. they slide this stack of faxes.

underneath so she started faxing me it's. like what the hell uh and this goes on. for I don't know a few months and we we. sorted it out but to this day I mean. then she it I had to go to therapy over. it oh I'm sure with her without her with. her at her at her request obviously you. know cuz I'm broken she's not anyway. that's a long thing you know Chenal had. one of those that cuz we had a a cell. phone per se on tour but it was like. something that the Army would use you.

know had a suitcase thing that it was in. and all that you know the second you. press the button a helicopter would come. by 18 bucks a minute a long way from. bucks a. minute it's important cheap man it. wasn't yeah but it wasn't with our wives. or anything we were a little no we. didn't give our wives a. number it's important it was strictly a. beer. phone Pizza. you're like air we did air drop now.

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manscaped.com but my kids are my kids. were on the bus that was in the summer. it was good because we were still. playing a lot of fairs and stuff back. then and you know during it was kind of. like summer vacation honestly it was an. uh I I never never mind we got. fortunately we did have some success and. made a little money and were're able to. get our own buses pretty early is the. reason we're still sitting here having. this conversation there were 13 one bus. for a year with the merchandise you know.

boxes and t-shirts and stuff like that. and then uh one of our guitar players. slept in the back with with the. merchandise oh yeah there's always that. an that guy human Geral he's back there. just burrowing in a bunch of extra. larges back there it was absolute Animal. House he just completely just covered. himself with nine mediums back there you. know and it was it was got Nam bird. Burton who who was the famous guitar. player that for the amazing Rhythm a. bunch of rock stuff and he'd come up.

there bless his heart we we trying to. you know really trying to keep him. around so how you have the sofa in the. back with the merchandises you know he. goes we don't have any blankets so you. sleep under t-shirts right anyway it was. Animal House it was like Animal House. yeah we had one guy that's like all you. know all the bunks like there's what. nine or six to a to to a side I think. and then the back lounge and there's one. guy that we called him what Fred Sanford.

he was the junk man and you couldn't. stop at a truck stop and he wouldn't go. in like buy a freaking CD kind of like a. yeah CB radio and a bunch of chips you. hear him at 4 in the morning turn over. to be like a Ace Hardware in his in his. b around bags crinkling at night and. stuff like what and then all a sudden. there's a there's the the the wall and. then the bunk and you see like their. chip uh bag would like fall down through. the next guy he's like God dang man it. was it was crazy stuff truck stops are.

great though there so much good stuff in. there especially when you cross the. border early on Faith Hill was opening. up for us and and U oh wow huh yeah and. I forget oh and and wa boys love that. y'all struck out with her I guess. damn we got stranded in Canada in a in a. a snowstorm yeah yeah lot of God. couldn't have set the table any better. for one you guys it was rough so in the. first truck stop I go in and I'm looking. looking at all their cool stuff in the. freezer in Canada and I P it was a eel.

it was a frozen eel in the freezer and. I'm like wow so I bought it I mean I. have no idea what I'm going to do with. this but I couldn't resist that was a. phase when everybody started but that. was a phase when when everybody was. playing pranks on the road faith and. Faith was like she was one of the guys I. mean you have to keep up with that she. would she would throw stuff and an eel. could come in handy in all kinds of. regards who even had a eel I don't even. some people don't even Canadians yeah. yeah I think that was the point why you.

bought it it's like look at this what. the hell it's kind of a little bit of a. nicer snake it's the most Canadian thing. you know yeah and but we get to the end. of the tour and sure enough I walked by. we're fixing to go to the you know stage. faith faith is on next and Wade Haz had. just gotten off stage I went by to tell. him you know good show and whatever and. he's kind of leaned over he's looking. pretty peaked and I'm like do you okay. he's like no man it's like Faith put. salt in my drink and water on stage. tonight I go. made him six I'm like that's wrong go I.

got you dude so she was in back bro. she's in she's in a hotel but we had the. codes to her room and her fictitious. name whatever she was using at the time. so me and and Doug make a run well first. I put the eel in the in the uh microwave. and the eel didn't even have a head I. mean and then once you thoughted him out. he got real slimy you know so we had. over there heartbreaking childhood it. must have had dude you know it and bring.

your own food pull back pull back the. covers and just laid him out right where. those pretty little Feats were going to. go you know kind of pushed it down so we. put the covers back just made it look. really good anyway and the next didn't. hear a thing she didn't say anything we. just keep waiting for the other shoe to. fall nothing so we're going through. customs getting back into the states the. next day you know and S da and I go. through and you know lady's going and. she goes Mr Brooks I go yes she goes I.

need you to come over here to the side I. go yeah she goes apparently there's uh. been a complaint um filed against you. about some stolen jewelry uh by Miss. Faith Hill and she starts pulling this. rubber glove on and I go look don't do. that don't do that it ain't in. there you better not be kidding her God. she could she couldn't hold it no she. finally broke I go come on it's not our. first. day leave me alone you're not even in.

this. game you a little that that night the. world was fun then too when things were. a little bit more simple you know oh. yeah you know in a lot of ways yeah that. was a lot of fun man and you couldn't. capture the moment as much so you had to. enjoy the moment because that was the. only you know what I'm saying well you. had too much downtime I mean there was. it was not you know if you're not on. stage doing something creative you're. doing something destructively cre cre. him on the backside oh yeah you know you.

know you've been out there oh it's the. dark arts out there brother it is did. you guys ever have a a comedian that. opened up for you guys I know sometimes. they used to do that on shows Gary Muer. oh really yeah still a good friend love. Gary yeah we did um did uh what Vegas. Vegas a couple times with him it's. hysterical I don't know how many times. but he was out with us quite a bit. that's a tough gig I feel like well he. but he played guitar as well uh well you. know Gary's like um he he does play.

guitar and it's you know it's incredible. cuz he just did a we did a show together. out in California not too long ago and. he played because he always he's he's. got a Johnny Cash voice and he'll do a. ring of fire or something like that. every now and then uh he's he's. hysterical though uh just real real. straight-faced joke teller and can just. break it down I got to tap in with him. I've heard of him before I've seen a lot. of like cuz comedians you go to the next. club and the other person. you and I've seen a lot of his uh you.

know seen his name a ton over the years. but but he he actually performed a song. and it was God I bet this thing had 20. verses and it was it was it was I'm not. kidding it was like a but it was a real. country music analog kind of take you. through this whole journey of thing it. was really neat Big Time stand to know. because I've seen him perform I don't. even know how many times at this point. and um and everybody there was like wow.

you got that off your chest and he did. not tell a single joke really he sang. that he sang that one song and left the. stage it so cool but it was a humorous. song no it wasn't funny it was it was a. real song and and it was it was NE but. he was a comedian he is a comedian he's. a great comedian yeah maybe that's his. ideal comedy him and Roger Miller him. and Roger Miller toured together and. you've heard of people doing these Roger. isms these funny things that he told all. the he knows all of them so I mean if. you ever run into him get him going on.

Roger because he's he's one of the great. historians the the keepers of the Roger. isms too great guy funny comedian yeah I. need to run into him yeah what do you. feel like like um like being a Duo was. there were there other Duos that like in. um music that reached out to you guys. over the years to help learn how to. navigate that um like that template kind. of does that make any sense to. you uh does make sense but but no no you.

know as as friendly as they say that. that you know the world of country music. is it's it's so darn competitive you. know everybody hates one another they. act like they don't on TV but you think. people are really competitive though oh. heck yeah no big time competitive one of. my favorite things is Dolly Parton in an. interview years and years ago she they. were talking about somebody and being. she just goes oh honey we there's room. for everybody no there's not yeah you. want to get down to it no there's not. you know what's the the most competitive. part is it people trying to get the best.

songs is it like where does the. competition really come in do you feel. like that's interesting I think just by. nature to be to be here and be in this. game in your game or anything that that. there's a there's a competitive don't. you feel there's there's a competitive. Dynamic that that runs through it. especially when in the beginning for. sure yeah but you want to catch up like. how many number ones do you have who had. a number one this week who has it you. know and we can be cool and like sit. back go you know we we don't care you. know it's no big deal we're not in it. for that we're in it for the love you.

know and that's not the case you know. well but that's also health is what. keeps you going we do make some real. friends along the way we have I mean you. do there are people that. you you're compet I mean David Lee. Murphy's a great example you know he. wrote with him yesterday uh you know the. song Dust on the Bottle I'd be a little. that's him singing him writing turn a. lot of great songs too yeah and we got.

here both got here in 79 literally swept. floors for Charlie Daniels for 30 bucks. a night I was you know getting rent paid. and playing Riders nights and stuff and. um and still he's on tour with us now. and uh you know going out with us next. year toured with again last year and. we've toured together before just. there's we've got real friends that the. competition I can't say I don't know. maybe it does go away or something and.

at some point in your life I think you. have a certain amount of success you. still want to succeed but it's like. you're not so ferocious yeah like when. you start and everything matters and. it's not that everything doesn't matter. anymore but it's like everything kind of. turn down the heat a little bit you know. let's simmer here and see if we can't do. something real something good now we. kind of know you you build confidence. too again like I said Ronnie and I we. didn't figure we'd go a year or two.

that's why we were. desperate through pretty much through. our whole career is just kind of this. isn't going to work this we you know. always doubting ourselves you know. always trying to do anything we could. what you know to do something really. special because it's probably going to. be our last song you know our last video. I mean we've always kind of felt a. little desperate I think does it feel. like it's out of your control sometimes. as a musician because a lot of it is. what songs you get right and you can. write your own songs you can write them.

with other people but does it ever feel. like it's out of your control kind of. like well you know how well you keep. doing or does it feel like it's in your. control you know what this it is I mean. 60 60 70% I don't know how much you can. add to the D I can add up to 100% of. luck right no I go I mean I guess I. don't know we can try to do more I can't. even a lot of it is luck you know but. but it's that thing if you know if. you're if you're working at it and and. and luck strikes just like you're ready.

for it you know you got your ball M on. bang catch it and uh work work from. there but you know but we we work hard. at it I mean we're songwriters before. we're aform point there just hey. somebody sell me a hit you're like I. have the ability to make my own it's all. about the song it's all about the song. and then as you move through the. business you meet people you meet people. with that they're pitching you giving. you good songs too you know and you. can't can't write them all you know know. uh and timing has a lot to do with it.

too it really does what do you mean. that's luck too yeah certainly that is. it's luck is just yeah time is just luck. with a clock huh there you go that's. great write that down we both I mean we. both had some kind of solo record deals. before we had a Duo deal Ronnie was. singing his ass off before I met him why. at 38 years old why wasn't he a star. already right you know I don't know. bring it up AG I'm just saying he's 38. years older you afraid of that you look.

39 yeah is it tough to age gracefully is. it tough to be like cuz even I notice it. you know in my unre it's like you know. you start to do good and you're like oh. well I'm getting older and then you're. like you start to see the younger guys. that are doing well and you're like oh. well this is all GNA is there a graceful. way for this to end or does it just end. or like I I think it just play that one. by ear you know I I keep telling people. I'm going to die in denial you related. age it's like I'm I'm not going to know.

how old I am I don't want to know pisses. me off to see every every article you. there somebody they're writing stuff and. you go well and so and so you know 80. years old whatever uh leave age out of. this's out there rocking he's cool oh. yeah. right go to Willie you know he be the. standard bear for that but no I mean. McCartney they're still out they're. still out doing their thing yeah I was. actually saw in a b a couple of months.

ago I was that we were in the same. bathroom at the same time wow what you. do huh what' you do just a number one. did you try to shake his hand or. anything oh no I didn't do anything like. that huh I freeze hey I just let it be. dude it that a little well you you said. something to. him I think I I honestly I probably said. like good day or something like that. like I think I was probably trying to. welcome him in like a British tone or. something good good day mik right yeah I. freeze I freeze anytime I get around.

some famous I. just they don't you're in Ireland I know. they're like prisoners from England or. something good bre must guy I'm never. cool around somebody famous wish I could. be uhuh yeah were there guys like that. coming up that you guys met uh what. question did had I just asked let me. make sure I stay on topic sorry were you. ever in the bathroom with Paul McCartney. yeah tell us about the time you aart in.

the bathroom oh one time I went to a I. went one time I was also in the bathroom. with I'll go through them all uh Montel. Williams okay he's a talk show host and. Kid Rock one time and I urinated right. between them dude oh wow a danger zone. that's a DMZ man it really is. incoming you make the wrong move there. anything can go go happen right either. way yeah either way it wasy. hands just to see what they're going to. do.

though hey man it's just I've always you. know just especially if you reach over. the salt like Johnny Cass said that you. asked him the the strangest thing like. that that ever happened to him and he. said that he was in a in a a stall in. the airport or something he said this. this paper slips under the. wall like we're good don't touch it yeah. I don't have a pencil like hey that. paper likes men that's all. um so you guys got to meet Johnny Cash.

yeah no way what was he like like just. as a regular guy was he like a friendly. guy was he kind of like a stoic guy. stoic quiet by Nature when you first. meet him just and and that's that end of. itself it's intimidating oh yeah and uh. then as you get to know him he's a. 17-year- old kid you know that that was. it I mean he D just crazy you funny as. all get out yeah yeah my wife uh her. first husband uh in invented the car one.

piece at a time uh and Johnny saying. about it one piece of time anyway or. built that car he built the car oh built. that car one piece at a time the song he. built the car so he uh or Johnny really. built a car sorry I'm confused her. ex-wife built the car about the song. that Johnny sang called he liked a song. and him and his Bud said man let's let's. build it let's actually build it they. were always scre around they they own. cold strip Co mines in Oklahoma and he.

uh Johnny did or his friends no no. Janine my wife's yeah so she was they. were well acquainted they they they all. became Fast Friends traveled the world. together I mean really really tight and. uh so when when I was brought in her. husband passed away and uh when I was. brought in it's like she's she's. marrying or or dating a musician you. know and uh Janine goes I'm I'm going to. take you to John and jun's House in. Nashville first time that she did it.

from Oklahoma and I went I don't really. want to do that you know I just kind of. saw that one coming you know and uh uh. John and of course John's real quiet and. what you wear over there do you get. dressed up or what you know black all. black no I mean jeans what I have on now. this kind of stuff and uh were you. nervous or not you remember yeah yeah I. was always I was super shy and quiet and. then I'm kind of come out of my shell a. little bit these days but uh. he was obviously glad to see her I mean.

I'm the new kid on the Block you know. you don't just scru like long drink. girlfriend yeah your girlfriend bringing. you to over to meet her parents who's. this pervert or whatever yeah I mean I. don't know you but yeah I mean I'm a. pervert so I'm sure most of us all no. that goes with it you can't be in a band. not be a pervert anyway and Johnny knew. that being a pervert. himself oh yeah who is man right if you. show me 70 people I'll show you 70. perverts you're B you're a comedian yeah.

yeah you're a. pervert wow that's pretty fascinating. though and did you did people look up to. him as like a like kind of like was he. this was he as. uh cuz now he's almost he there's an. idolatry about him in a way you know you. see the t-shirts with the Johnny Cash. the and just this cash like no he's but. he's always been that way listen here's. a funny thing uh so the Log Cabin that. they they let had us lived in. CU June did that for Janine not for me.

you know called her and said look okay. this guy's going to try to make it in. the music business you know good luck it. ain't going to happen we'll give you a. place to live right we'll give you a. flammable home right a temporary. residence okay cuz it's not going to. last long till I find you a guy with. money all right so thank God we have. these hits right off the bat and. suddenly Jun goes woo okay you're in you. know she she told Janine during that. first visit she said look here's here's. how it goes down she says it the CH the.

odds are a million to one no 10 billion. to one you know they make it and and if. if he does it's not going to last long. it's just that's not that's the nature. of the business and uh number three. they're all crazy if they do make it for. a long time yeah you know so she she. called her babies uh it was well. Jennings Willie Nelson Hank Jr uh uh. Larry Gatlin. just the wild boys of that that era oh.

the feral yeah so she goes you know just. just look you uninsurable they put us. through hell right she says so get ready. you know she said there's no there's no. good to it there no no so anyway where. was I uh with Johnny you said was he. stoic and stuff first day there uh June. takes Janine and they leave the house to. go shopping oh so you and him and me and. John in that house alone okay the.

bathroom and staying there for at least. a minute to get ready to and sir it's. like I'm the unwelcome guest or at least. I'm feeling that way oh for. sure and and they're they're John's. quiet anyway he does he hasn't he hasn't. like and what he just polishing a gun or. something no no probably yes pretty. close to it he comes out of the far end. of the house there are two black uh. leather recliners in front of this. TV and uh he sits down and he's watching.

like CNN or whatever and I sit in the. next one just sitting there and no one. says anything I'm like [ __ ] longest day. in my. life I didn't know what to say to him. because he didn't he didn't talk but now. I know know what I know he didn't talk. to anybody right uh and all of a sudden. out of the blue he goes you see these uh. you see these these news re here these. these things he say that's a Loop and he. said you know I'm an addict and I went.

okay and he goes I used to sit and watch. TV for days until those Loops would end. and then he said it would start a whole. other cycle of the news and he's. explaining you know how TV Works to me. and that stuff and Through The Eyes of. being high. [Laughter]. yeah you know and shortly after that it. seemed like two days that we were. sitting there it's probably a couple. hours and Janine and June come back and.

they've been shopping at steinart and. uh I like sart actually some the sleev. are a little different well June took. her there in her new uh blue Rolls-Royce. that John had just giv her for her but. so there's there's a little dog you know. ying yang there yeah Janine was just. pale white now she knows no strangers so. you never see Janine down so she kind of. walked and she was like she just been. scared by a ghost and uh so I kind of. peeled away and met her in the back the.

house I said what happened she goes I'll. tell you later I can't talk about. it would June had read her the right act. on on all this stuff I just told you. about you know they're not going to last. D and I said can we go now she goes no. we got one more day he. goes one more day right but no sooner no. sooner did we get here and and they were. the most absolute supportive people in. the world John came up one day we were. getting ready to shoot the the CD cover.

for brand new man the first CD and uh I. said he he he was always into everything. she goes what are you going to wear you. know how you going how do your hair that. kind of stuff in the image I said well I. don't know I said don't I've got a few. things ideas he goes all right I'll be. back he he left getting his Mercedes he. shot out and down the hill he had needed. a goat to get up the mountain to it he. comes fly he goes flying down the hill I. guess he goes home comes back in an hour. or so opens the trunk of the car reaches. in and hands me this black suit and he.

goes he goes I had this back in 1972. it's made by Manuel and he goes I was. sick back then which meant I was he was. sick yeah right so he was skinny enough. for me to wear my skinny ass to get in. the suit you know he goes don't tell. June she doesn't like me giving stuff. away and I have it to this day I wore it. on the back of that CD cover oh. wow that's that's crazy oh it was hey. man check the pockets dude let's party I.

bet that thing's got something she was. something and the parties there too was. strictly lemonad lemonade and iced tea. really keeping it sober keeping it. completely sober uh on the table for. sure oh yeah you know and nothing in the. back kitchen I mean she she was she was. pretty she wore the pants in that deal. huh at that was she pretty much a he. probably needed a care somebody to. really care care for him yeah let me. aspies to that that little story is that. that that particular weekend that we. were there he was on Furlow from.

rehab okay and how long do you have to. be in reab you get fured I thought that. was a military Johnny Cash right only. Johnny Cash would have went to only he. would have went to boot. camp right and so all of a sudden at the. end how many tours did he do right oh he. did a lot but the day the day before he. supposed to go back this is a Saturday. he's going back on Sunday he comes down. with the flu yeah June's having no part. of that she's completely just uhuh no. we're done so she wanted to talk to him.

and we're caught in the middle of that. and I'm going J can can we go home now. can we go home now no no no not please. go. home jine can tell this story I can but. so June goes to Janine goes y'all have. to drive me to the hospital take him to. the hospital here in Hendersonville make. sure just see what's wrong with him she. says I'm not talking to him says he can. walk as far as I'm concerned okay we got. it so we get in the car start to get in. the car car John wants to drive yeah. okay so John drives he drove yeah man.

but it's it was like pedal to the metal. boom off all the way ped to the B J he. you start nodding off and he nod back on. you off we get the hospital and they're. rolling him in in a a wheelchair and uh. Janine goes up to the desk to give them. all the information and they take John. back and he's there maybe an hour and. then we come back and uh he goes up to. his room you know his hospital room at. the house he's he's playing it up man.

he's like I goton I can't go back she go. you're going back to rehab uh so Jun. goes well how did it go Janine she goes. well they asked for his doctor and Jun. goes oh hun he's in rehab the doctor was. in rehab the doctor was in rehab oh. Lord oh sweet no no no he hadn't made. Furlow yet Dr Nix in rehab. said okay we can go now right she goes. pretty pretty soon wow that's a great.

story that's my first Johnny Cash and. June Carter unbelievable experience we. had Ric Flair uh we spoke with him one. time the famous wrestler you know him. and he's quite a character and he uh he. was in a rehab center and the doctor. that got put in there with him and he. was in there and one day one day they're. giving pills to both of them and he's. like why are you giving pills to the. doctor like no the doctor in here now we. like.

damn yeah I mean so apparently that's. part of the deal man well it's just. everywhere look like that oh yeah look. so many of my friends I mean I I I go to. recovery meeting so many people deal. with you know that sort of stuff was it. tough for you guys to keep it clean over. the years did you guys get tempted with. drugs or alcohol or what was that like I. don't I don't know really tempted with. drugs or alcohol huh yeah no not me did. you. Ronnie I'll go with you you want you to. explain this we might we might have took.

a drink or two along the way I don't. know I think Ronnie took took a lot of. pills but I never did. whoops fou. foul yeah but I have I have. allergies oh now you do lot of. allergies I've never seen somebody in. that dust will give it to you I'm from. Louisiana too dude started drinking at a. very early age that's.

true wow was it hard yeah were there. certain points where you guys had to. like tell each like at what point do you. guys have do do you guys ever have to be. like each other's like uh caretaker yeah. not caretaker in the sense like actually. physically but just like you know and. then how hard is it to take that. suggestion from the other guy you know. like from the other lead we don't do it. much we don't do it much I mean that's. one of the unique Dynamics about how we. you know the relationship we have we. don't do that it if it is it'll be some.

common in passing and you you know and. you'll know honestly we sit here and. laugh about this stuff but there's not a. lot of nonsense that goes on it's like. we're up there to do what we do we. appreciate where we are and and I God. knows we know the pitfalls yeah you know. and have we ever been over served on. stage or whatever like that yes has. anyone ever told. us you swearing your word. yeah sling your vehicle I've been told.

that before you know you've already. written that song don't write it again. in the middle of it you know that kind. of [ __ ]. but yeah we've had a few faos that. people don't believe when I tell them. this we have never I mean we're both you. know hardheaded whatevers you know I. came from a pipeline background same. with him you know and it it's um we have. never raised our voices to each other. Wow have we ever been mad at each other. yeah have we ever been pissed at each.

other yeah for sure we'll go off and P. but that's it you know we've always been. able to go to our SE separate corners. and come back later and some of that do. you think it was just because you. because you like started to achieve your. like your most success that people would. know you from Once you were older like. you think if it would have been younger. like do you ever think of like the. blessings of that CU it's kind of a. blessing and a curse cuz everybody wants. to be everybody wants to be 27 and. famous you know but if you're 38 and you. get popular you know it's it feels a. little different you know has a lot to.

do with it you appreciate it you know. cuz it was there there was a point for a. long time where there was no plan B yeah. you know and and we both felt that and. uh no so you you learn you appreciate it. it's just that just is just you know. beating into you through through the. ranks yeah dude we used to slow dance to. y'all's music dude I would be so nervous. dude. god. [Music].

dude I just couldn't even I would stand. so far away from the girl like as far as. I could but still touching her a little. like this kind of you know barely. touching her two. fingers you were down in the trenches. man you were on the floor see we're up. there on the band going I don't look. right get get up against it go on what. are you doing I I couldn't get up it was. to thing man whole front of my body.

sweating like I never knew you could. Sweat Just in one hemisphere of. your and never. move you guys uh we were talking about. songw writing earlier you guys your new. album has a lot of like um some of my. favorites on and people that have that. we've been able to have on the podcast. before I think uh Ernest is on Hardy. Morgan yeah Lany Laney Wilson who how. amazing is Lany Wilson she's great she's.

special man she's special she's a. Louisiana girl from right up the road. from where my farm is yeah yeah yeah I'm. me literally we're honestly 18 miles. apart oh that is close you're from. Covington I think I saw somewhere did. you really spend grow up there yeah you. did yeah yeah I grew up there our town. is we have this tallest statue of Ronald. Reagan. there somebody stole the arm but they. got it back they got it back yeah. somebody how they get it off uh I don't. know what kind of is it bronze or it was.

I think it's bronze brete or something. oh no it's special oh there you go so so. which arm huh was his the arm his his. right arm or his left arm I'm not sure. you can Google that too how they get the. arm off yeah you can Google that how. they get the arm off how they get the. arm off of. Reagan in comington Louisiana in a lot. of welders down there right they got. torches exactly they got torches that's.

pipeline country man damn right oh we. can get an arm off you want arm yeah how. far they tried to recycle it that's how. they caught the guy and yeah he took it. to like the local Al aluminum oh cuz. he's thinking it's maybe copper or. something he can buy some like I'm going. to give me hell yeah I'm going to give. me a couple hundred bucks yeah they cut. it all guarantee he's a welder yeah look. at Ronnie oh that was in Poland yeah so. they must have done it but they did it. by us too somebody got it off but they. got it back on it was a copycat uh thing.

a copycat arm Thief wow that's dark what. no they did it in. Poland how far okay how far is cumington. from mro to Arkansas a long way south. Louisiana okay yeah he's close to Baton. because we talk a lot about about. Northern Louisiana where where the farm. is and Monroe and all that so my all my. grandparents are from Elder Arkansas so. beautiful country out there yeah I mean. it's pretty Street port's kind of gone. through it it's been through some things.

you know yeah it's pretty funky which is. where I went to school oh yeah whatever. yeah they just tore down the tallest. building Tree Port what really bring it. down doing in the not the back building. uh this was an they did a beautiful. implosion I watched it the other day on. Tik Tok W I wonder if that's where it. was that's where my father's office was. was it a drone attack I. don't dude I don't the tallest building. in sh Port what there it is just brought. it down yeah to I think it was the that.

that's a that's a Bank building uh yeah. it was a Bank building you're right yeah. cuz I think cuz building's 20 stories. must have been the richest richest. building in town that's pretty fancy. right there beautiful building look at. all those what did they tear it up for. real glass windows on them yeah I don't. know that's it right there wowow. somebody's wife was trying to the. buildings around. it it wasn't the tallest it was the only. probably probably for a.

casino it could have been man Street. forward it's kind of wild that whole the. I've been like there's a lot of haunted. everything's there seems kind of haunted. that's Louisiana in general just like. New Orleans you know yeah like you want. to buy this haunted biscuit or whatever. monkey foot it's two extra bucks it's. cuz it's got some damn ghost Jam in it. whatever everything does she got Voodoo. all over it yeah is that. hot I hope so ghost Jam yeah I just. think but yeah everything in New Orleans.

haunted it's like oh you ever been this. haunted this is haunted you know it's. like a nursery for children but they. it's haunted okay so I read this article. the other day well I guess it was on on. online it's like the the top 10 most uh. oh least desirable states to live in and. Louisiana was number one oh wow I can't. imagine that that's what I'm saying bro. Champs no you got you got haunted hey. everybody's not in the haunted. look at Rich and Famous 49 states worth.

of people that aren't into haunted yeah. people don't like [ __ ] haunted just stay. off there we'll keep I I forget what it. was based on oh you want to live in the. natural realm that's fine [ __ ] we're. doing other you don't have a monkey foot. under your. pillow hanging from. your yeah you don't have a baby that. that's chewing on a Lucky Rabbit foot. that's your problem you wouldn't know a. hoodoo man from Colonel Sanders what. what. oh everything there is haunted or. soaking wet dude that's Louisiana.

yeah yeah everything's got a little bit. of mold on we go down there uh you go. down there all the time because you your. Farms down there in place and all your. buddies from sort we we go down there. and Duck Hunt like on the marshes bu I. never been duck hunting going next week. are you oh yeah is it um is it more. enjoyable than turkey hunting or do you. feel is is there something difference I. like stuff flying you know I've I've. shot my share turkeys but really don't.

care about popping them anymore it's. like you know it's like do something you. know you're. like gay I'm over here it's almost like. you're attacking like a bird in a. wheelchair or something exactly they get. all puffed up too it's like some you. know he's on his last he's making his. last move on her he's so puffed up he. can't even walk anymore you know he's. just like like me at the dance yeah just. like doing that got his two fingers up. there just trying to get close to her to.

do the Neon. Moon and then you go bam he's headless. [ __ ] sorry about that. yeah turkey's been all the work of. calling them in this place we go down in. Louisiana is called little Pan Island. and it is it's like one of the Four. Seasons I I shouldn't rat us out really. it's beautiful they got a lot of good. turke there unbelievable not turkeys. ducks good friend of ours Jim Flores. from uh from Houston uh owns it and it's.

unbelievable and what kind of ducks do. you do you get out there everything i'. got I have pictures of the Sky full I. mean of just it's unbelievable they go. how ducks go they they migrate at. different times oh so they're not like. releasing them and then they come back. and no they don't release no it's all. it's all wild it's okay stuff yeah they. come from the north and they get cut off. down in Missouri and whatever there's a. lot of duck habitat on the way for them. to stop and eat and whatever especially. with climate change won't get into all. that but like Arkansas flooded timber a.

lot of those ducks come out of the rice. fields and stuff and they're primarily. green heads malards you know but by the. time you get to the marsh you got every. kind you know de teal and malards and. you could go on you have a fat stor up. there even oh everything everything it's. like Africa it's like going out into the. marshes no you you're in that kind of. environment oh wow so it's so natural. you mean natur real cool yeah are you in. a boat or are you in you go out in a. boat okay like know all you get.

everybody gets their own guide in their. own boat you have to hide underwater or. you can you're SCBA tank we have scuba. tanks and shotguns is it really you're. ly okay no but you know the the blind. about is big as your sofa and it's sunk. in the water and then it's it's it's you. know it's covered with and every guy has. his own like group of of blinds you guys. to take care of lot of straw and stuff. natural stuff you're hiding in there. there bugs or anything bugs everywhere. bugs everywhere bugs everywhere you know. snakes alligators for real alligators.

all over the place first thing they do. when they get to your blind you know the. guy will get out and make sure there's. nutria no snakes snakes and Gat clean of. all the appetizers that out of there. exactly then they'll take start come. back pull in the P sink the P next to. your blind get in there and start. quacking at them wow ducks are good to. eat too turkeys you know people can say. what they want you know you can fry. anything or whatever but turkeys aren't. that great to eat and some people are. just food just real per creeps when it.

comes to eating you know I've had owl my. and you know I don't know if we can say. it or not but no you can't well I didn't. you just did I didn't have it you ate an. owl you just said you did though huh you. just said you had owl did he not just. say he had owl I didn't do it wait a. minute think I think he said Eagle yeah. no I didn't say eagle dude and if I did. it wasn't it was a wigged Eagle I don't. need bald eagle no but I did have we had. owl my my.

sister's grilled up two. owls you just said you didn't I thought. we could say it now you you can Ronnie. did it. no I eat. anything you're freaking eader a BAL I. didn't have a lot well you it didn't. have a lot there's not a lot to them. that's the trick you didn't swallow. I didn't. inhale they're the frogs of the animal.

kingdom of the bird kingdom the frogs of. the bird W you pull that skirt up and. you know I've done some things in my day. but nothing but even just to look it's. uh let go we're letting you run with it. pull up what I'm talking about let's at. least see. the so we just and and these the owl did. you photoshop the E owl they were of age. too the ones I'm talking about know that. man these were adult owls supposed to do. that so much. for brother that is something needs to.

take care of that that's disgusting oh. my God that's those they migrated over. from Chernobyl. yeah y That's a Russian L for sure I. wish yeah they just had what did I just. see about Russia dude they're giving. away well there's a war in Ukraine. there's a war in. ukra no but it was something more it was. something exciting um oh Vladimir Putin. urges citizens to have sex during work. breaks to address Russia's dire birth.

rate yeah he's just trying to get he's. just trying to like he's trying to make. everybody Happy's trying to put an army. together he's trying to earn an. army like hurry up nice that's not a bad. deal though dude now that's the kind of. stuff we need around here you know what. I'm saying like you know when. everybody's really down over there and. depressed and whatever it's like okay. sex on work breaks okay that's a that's. a that's a board dictator is what that. is literally brother yeah he he have to.

push that through Congress what are we. goingon to do what are we having for. lunch depends on who text me back you. know what I'm saying that's what I'm. talking about my duck right I'm proud of. him. now no wonder Trump likes. him. what only thing about communism to Star. to sound appealing right I'll tell you. this yeah communism sucks but I'll tell. you what lunches are good right lunch. break is hard to beat what did I just.

see I saw another called that do you see. that Pizza Hut thing I don't if you can. find that Nick it was Pizza Hut now. listen to this people are having such a. tough time getting. jobs what is the it was Pizza Hut will. put your resume on a pizza box to help. you get a job whoa whoa whoa so you can. send I took a leave of ABS 78 I've got. like a 50-year hole in my resume. okay so I've I've had this idea forever. sorry sorry but it's like we're always.

talking about random ways to promote. records and do things right that's a. good way what about Amazon boxes you. know we go to Amazon and go hey what if. we like what would it cost our to put. our logo or whatever on an Amazon box. origin how many people know I'm sure. that's non-negotiable everybody you I. bet that's a dude I wouldn't be. surprised if that I'm I'm amazed they. haven't done that yeah really cuz they. they own most of the that's something.

most of us see all the time yeah but. yeah that pizza now you can put your. resume you can send it to somebody. you're trying to get employed by you. send them a little you know send them a. little pizza yeah yeah I'll tell you. this if I'm having a slice I'll I cuz. you're putting you're feeling good. you're eating pizza yeah so I'm I'm. going think that guy is pretty quality. you're endorphins are already stimulated. by the piec and you look over there and. go you know what I like that guy I know. like a couple later you're like hey what. happened to that pizza. box oh what oh you know never mind we.

need a new guy in the tech department we. need yeah what happened but then you. might start just naming your workers you. don't know their names you just name. them like uh pepper like the Italian. Guys is like extra pepperoni like yeah. remember we hired him you know or meat. lovers is the guy that's maybe a little. zesty you. know big. sausage spicy sausage what's with the. new album is it going to be uh tell me. about it a little bit what made you guys.

want to come back and make more because. at a certain point do you feel like. you've made enough or does that never go. away what is that kind of like the first. one was was just just keep everything. between the lines not not stray very far. from from the the previous cuts the. first what you mean the first record. reboot one there we're on two now but. neither neither of these were our our. ideas to do it was our manager which is. he's had this the first good idea he's. had I think in years yeah look I've had.

managers I know what you're talking. about he's a great. man is. he why why why Baltimore is the day. after Sacramento I still haven't quite. figure it out. but he get paid his big big saying is. hey what are you what are you bitching. about man he says I give you 85% yeah or. other top he takes this is a charity you. know I would need to do this you know I.

mean damn Clarence you're in he goes I. know so what is 15% of nothing it's like. never mind po poor little children and. what is his name just so we can. CL we we're 30 something years without a. contract he's got Al and I mean it's. just he's done great and he speaks. fluent Brooks and done we we couldn't do. it without him yeah oh yeah imagine that. uh yeah you got to have somebody to. handle a lot of stuff for you today's. podcast is sponsored by Boot Barn.

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in and does her thing they all get to. pick their their own songs 18 artist. okay uh they they they pick whatever. song they want and that goes on without. us they that's all up to them and then. maybe they H haggle about it with. management or whatever anyway uh. everyone showed up with their own. version of the song then it was like you. have artistic creative license to do. whatever you want to do with this one oh. dude I can't put me up there I can't do. karaoke I mean if it's Christmas carols. I can do it but it's like even some of.

that I get nervous like in the second. stanza or whatever you know yeah Melanie. has to feed me by my worse to my songs. than my left ear I mean Oh I thought you. was feeding I thought you was going. behind a speaker and eating something. eating bird seed out of her hand yeah. she had to feed me she had to feed me. whiskey all through the. show I did a tour over in in Afghanistan. with with Robin Williams and Lewis Black. and Kathleen Madigan and and Robin just. impressed me. because he seemed like he's just had.

living everything you know and the one. thing that I learned from him before and. we would spend all day on Blackhawks. going to real remote places everywhere. you know and then at night we do in. kandar cable or whatever some some. larger shows and um but he was before he. would go on he was he had a little piece. of paper you know he'd just written a. handful of notes and whatever and he. would Pace back and forth back and forth. back and forth and I was just really. impressed. at his professionalism and the way he.

and knowing you guys do people just you. make it look so easy you know that when. you're flowing through your deal and you. got your deal clicking right and it's I. was just learned a lot and Lewis was. hysterical as you can imagine just just. hanging with him he spend any time with. him yeah he's very entertaining he's. very smart the way he talks is funny. yeah just to listen to him you know yeah. is so aggravated really really is of. course we couldn't you can't drink over. there at all you know and oh made it.

worse probably well yeah when we got. there lwis has this giant bag like you. carry around this huge kind of smaller. duffel bag bag you can go across the you. go around completely full of those. airport Scotch bottles. you yeah you know what talking about. much little allergy medicine right like. damn I didn't know uh Jim Bean made. allergy medic. that's insane look at all these. different colored.

algas dude you guys are funny man we. didn't mean to be it's probably helped. yall over the years being able to laugh. huh you got you got to laugh got to have. sense of humor yeah you it's like. comedians for the most you hear this. profile and to correct me if I'm wrong. but it's like you know it's kind of a. lot of comedians are kind of dark right. oh yeah yeah and uh it's kind of it's. It's anger coming out in humor. sometimes more times than not not to go. Dr Phil here yeah no yeah I think it.

probably is a lot of them M dark yeah I. mean definitely a lot of them you lose a. lot of them the and yeah um it's a. pretty too much downtime too you know. yeah that gets kind of. scary yeah you know uh everybody out. there gets that you know no matter what. business you're in we're on a bus for. you know sitting Vue for whatever you. don't get being on a bus dude I used to. ride Greyhound that don't make anybody. want to take their lives oh I used to. ride I used to go work on a farm up in. natches Mississippi in the summer and.

I'd take a Greyhound up from Baton Rouge. and dude they put all the inmates on. there it's a lot of like missing people. on there like I remember a dude came up. and he was like have you seen me he said. to me I'm like you said I'm damn missing. dude it's just like that's a crazy thing. to ask somebody station oh God here you. know I don't know if it's even still. where it was my sister had this opar who. came from France this real sweet girl. that I had met up in Maine and I told. her you ought to come visit Nashville. sometime forgot all about it and I get a.

call one night at the house you know and. and Mr Bruce she's crying I go yes Mr. Bruce say it's it's. Ros it's horrible I go what is what has. happened what is wrong hor I'm here I'm. here I go you're where in the bill the. bill of Nash I go you're here in. Nashville she yes I'm here I go where. are you what is wrong with. I at the gray dog I at the gray dog what. you're at the Greyhound bus station said.

my God I go look do not go to the. bathroom go sit in a chair don't talk to. anybody don't look at anything I'm on my. way it's like emergency oh my. God it's like being in the opposite of a. hospital faster than my wife when she's. having a baby it's like I've got to save. her like right now this is an emergency. dude every row of the grand things get. and seier first it's weed and then four. rows later they're doing like abortions.

and like early term but still like it's. like what it gets real dicey. dude it gets real dicey on ground but. yeah to have to rescue a French woman. from a gray bus terminal you know was. this her first time in I mean this is. her that she had been on up north. they've got real trains you know tram. and stuff but they on the schedule if. you look at it I'm like how did you get. here she showed me her schedule they put. Greyhound bus in the middle of wood.

Amtrak so like you go from these. beautiful nice things yeah you can work. on your computer to oh my God what. happened there a lot of people on there. yeah just testing pills on each other a. lot of people yeah now making their a. lot of people drinking their own bath. water had a dude selling 40 proof bath. water mon I didn't have a lot but I had. a little you know what I'm saying wasn't. that bad it wasn't that bad dude I'll. say this it kind of had a peppermint. snaps vibe.

to God D there there's a. routine Jerry Clow was one of my. favorite comedies you guys ever get to. meet. him no I didn't get to meet him he was a. famous Southern comedian yeah yeah yeah. yeah he was great what about brother. Dave Garner I never watched him oh. really you got to check him out brother. Dave Gardner is his name oh yes and he. was like let's bring him up Nick he was. he was sort of the he was sort of the. country Lenny Bruce without using a lot.

of foul language but um some real dark. humor and very inappropriate uh humor. for oh. good that's him brother Dave look. smoking that cigarette telling you how. it is got his suit going check out hair. it's shining man oh yeah no that one. that cover up on the right I've got that. album it's all torn up for a dog chew. the corner off my Dad loved him though. wow I'm going to start listening to him. mhm he was something else not like your.

average. Yeehaw um country comedian huh um was. there an artist that's passed and you. guys when you guys were admired growing. up you went to their service or anything. somebody you guys really miss and or. cash for sure did y'all go to his. service were you allowed to go or how. yeah yeah oh wow that must have been. really interesting I say my first June. mhm June say way we were at the hospital. one she. was had her heart. attack.

wow didn't didn't get to go to uh Merles. but um and was he a funny guy what was. he like he could be funny could yeah but. uh he he wasn't been funny on this. [Music]. one no he came out and did the last five. or six dates with us on the our tour in. 2010 we were shutting things down and uh. it's it's one of those. instances where you meet somebody famous. and hag just shut me down I could not.

carry on a conversation with him you. know he about as bad as as as cash hated. him didn't like chatting well no he. didn't but he liked you and he let you. know you know where John didn't he. didn't let you know for a while he just. smoked you out just just just to see. what you got you know mer if you could. survive it Merl's agreed to go on tour. with us but we had to perform with him. every night which of course was on stay. together yeah throw throw us in the. Brower patch I mean that's was such a. huge honor and whatever but he would.

come up with some obscure songs and. whatever and I jumped it wasn't like. Silver Wings or anything he throwing his. curve balls way in the back man like. okay tonight you guys are out there. singing pitbull or something live and in. person and I hopped up on his bus one. one afternoon to find out what our song. was and we were in Woodstock New York I. remember and he's up there burning one. down and uh he goes you need to sit down. I go. okay what is it ml he goes what the.

hell's wrong with. y'all I don't know ml what's wrong with. this go got that damn window all them. people out. there what the F's wrong with. y'all I don't know Merl what's wrong. with it. he all them damn people out there and. y'all want to quit. well Merl it's a good. point look back it was.

Inus our last thought yeah you know so. Merl you know I got to tell you Poncho. and Lefty is probably one of my favorite. songs ever I said and watching you and. Willie in that video I it's one of the. coolest things I've ever seen you two. y'all are like best friends I mean. Ronnie Dunn and I didn't even know each. other when we met you know we've bully. lead our way through this freaking. career for 20 years we have not taken a. break you know and we've just gotten to.

a point where we think it'd be the best. thing for us we've made it 20 years you. and Milly Willie Nelson made one album. together and he. goes yeah but we only had one. hit okay Merl what's my song and he. started laughing I'm like you win you're. smarter than me you always will be it is. crazy to think that when you almost say. that to some people even me hearing it. from you guys like yeah this is going to.

be it because it's because because it's. but that's just it is what it is it's. like your life's at where it's at you. know um yeah when you've taken breaks. what are other things that you started. to fill your lives with that became like. important to you or that meant something. to. you I know you have your Vineyards uhhuh. yeah my friend Chris used to work out. right yeah but that was I started that. 20 years ago and and other things really. what I really wanted to do and I'd been. offered a couple of bit parts and movies. and stuff along the way and you know.

make making a movie takes long. scheduling and all that and we really we. did two or 20 years without stopping and. I kind of did some theater in college I. went to Louisana Tech you know oh hell. yeah dude yeah and enjoyed all that the. Red Fern Grows they used to do that. musical up there oh yeah lot of good lot. of. beautiful all right CT don't get me. started now talk yourself this is a war. you don't want to say hey look Ronald. [Laughter].

Reagan Rustin vers comington that'd be a. great battle bring that armor back you. can keep Terry. [Music]. [Laughter]. Bradshaw oh anyway but I got in told to. call William Morris you know and said. who books us and said hey I I don't want. to start a movie I'm not qualified or. you know don't have the chops but I. would I would if there's a bit part or. something that maybe some some whatever.

if something comes up you know yeah and. so yeah they started sending me some. things and I actually started doing some. movies this and that and my son had. studied film at at Vanderbilt in English. and I wanted to be a screenwriter and. one thing led to another he came out and. started writing with some guys that had. produced I co-starred with Ernie Hudson. eventually in in a western oh sweet I'm. not familiar with Ernie Hudson yeah you. are the Hudson River no you are he was. in Ghostbusters he doesn't know him he's.

in the original Ghostbusters oh he was. oh the with the glasses the only black. guy in the movie are you kidding oh. shoot where go back that Ernie Hudson oh. that Ernie I know who he is oh Ernie. Hudson Ernie Hudson love Ernie Hudson. yeah I could tell you. did no I'm joking Ernie no that's a uh. so um so that's something you've enjoyed. getting to do then yeah so I got to do. that a little bit and my son wound up. being a a screenwriter went out to LA to.

be Tarantino and he writes writes movies. for Hallmark now ises he really he does. oh that's awesome well Hallmark still. makes a lot of movies you know they're. not a lot of places aren't even making. movies so true Kudos least got some work. movies a year or something does. literally but some of the studios hardly. make any movies anymore so good for them. man wow that's cool what about you. you've been in movies no just wrote a. movie with um me and David Spade wrote a. movie together he did like Tommy Boy and. you know who he is oh yeah um and so we.

wrote a movie and I think we're going to. start making it on January 6th he was in. Ghostbusters yeah he was dude he was the. black guy with the glasses huh with. glasses one one arm that's he. was uh so I I'm I'm scared about it but. I think it's I think it's going to. happen we worked on a so long and now. it's supposed to happen now I'm like I'm. scared you know but that's natural. that's normal yeah I think yeah being.

scared of something maybe that you don't. know how you can do at it or something. but we also have done it all ourselves. so it's like uh so that feels good you. should you should talk to Billy Bob. thoron really yeah I mean think what he. did was Sling Blade oh. yes. blade but they said and did that so soy. top like bisc Billy top I mean Billy top. ZZ Top was out with us and uh uh Billy.

Gibbons uh was telling about the editing. process after Billy Bob and all of like. finished it up and Dwight yok oh yeah he. was in he says I go to this little. apartment building in La say it's hot as. as hell he says I go up second floor. right I knock on the door and he says. you know it kind of cracks open he said. he they go ah he say it's me Billy oh. let me in come on what are you doing so. it's Dwight yokam and they're all in. like their they're like white wife. beater t-shirts or whatever sweating all.

over the place in there with old hand uh. uh old school uh uh hand uh editing. machines cutting uh Sling Blade wow. doing all that wow but I bet he's. fascinating guy Billy Bob Thornton yeah. and Dwight F I've been working with him. on a Taylor sherid in this next series. coming up with uh landman doing some. some music stuff together but it's just. fun it's fun he's got a band he does oh. yeah B Thor has a band yeah yeah yeah.

known that for a long time I've never. gotten to see him play but I would. probably enjoy it have you seen it. Tim Billy B Thorton's band I think. they're gonna be here in a while I'd. love to go see him then I'm going to. make a point of that they're they're. coming before long he told me the other. night yep box Masters that's it next. month they got their gigs starting uh. opening for ZZ Top Bill ham the their. manager and you guys opened for ZZ Top. at one point right is that right yeah we. co-headline with them that's what I'm. that's what I meant a long time had a.

blast yeah um Ronnie what about you. what's something that that that you've. enjoyed keeping your time with when you. have free time I I got a tinker at the. farm a little bit still you know I'm. always writing songs or something but I. grabbed a camera and a buddy of mine who. been a 25 year uh uh photographer for. Sports Illustrated moved back to town. and we hit it off I'd just been to CU. doing some photography and playing. around and uh he said show me your stuff. and and I did he says okay you're going.

with me so we took off for like a year. year and a half two years shooting. everything Chey Rodeo uh. [Music]. [Music]. galapagus: aome yeah dude I just went to. the PBR like two weeks ago and it was. here um oh that was bull riding but I. love Rodeo Rodeo is one of the best man.

I'm with you if you take your wife or. kids out you don't you don't know what. to do with them if there's a rodeo. within 40 miles take my parents used to. do that it's a black have you been to. the Prison Rodeo in Angola no I'd love. to you kidding me you have you been dude. yes went just recently and and actually. played down there you know about the. road yes I know about it D unbelievable. 8 seconds for freedom they call it yeah. for freedom but it's 6 seconds you know. the first event is called busting out so.

um yeah these uh I've got a friend uh. bana calhon who she does prison re-entry. and we we stayed at the warden's house. no I want to W oh dude he's fantastic. yeah um I want him on this show yeah we. stayed up making gumbo and and drinking. beer about one o00 in the morning but. the rodeo the first event busting out. they put six prisoners on six Bulls and. they're PBR bulls they're real Bulls cuz. they do a PBR exhibit kind of thing. there put six guys on it they release.

all six of them at the same time of. course the prisoners stay on for like a. tenth of a second and then it's all hell. breaks Le and every event at the rode. like that there's one called pinball. where they set up eight hula hoops in. the middle of the deal eight prisoners. stand in the hula hoops they release two. bulls on them and the last one in a Hulu. wins the prize and yeah no it's. fantastic got nothing to lose got to go. R is just a little bit of sunlight but. right you get two hours in the in the. cage.

outside you get it you get to use a. harmonica for 10 minutes right big time. bra Bal B there were 96 volunteers uh. this year and it happens twice a year. you should really go it's unbelievable. to watch I didn't know you could just go. oh it's like there it's a 20,000 seed. Arena it's F see there it is wow it's a. real look at them there's a that's it. that's pinball right there there mhm I'm. not kidding what bull we got to go on. this man it be fascinating this is the.

place where even the Bulls are afraid to. come out at. you Ain going out there freaking there's. 20 lifers out there wi um yeah that's. amazing I'm gonna I'd love to go to that. I'm going to try to get to uh I'd love. to interview the warden because it's a. fascinating thing they don't there's not. another prison I don't think that does. something as famous as this look at this. here you go he's going to stay uhhuh oh. man down see still got one in there man. down he's walking yeah a he's a pinball. wizard he's like no never mind no he.

left the station. didn't oh Rodeo is so fun man man the. shy Rodeo we you get a press bunker. where your ground level that's a big one. yes dadd of them all they call it it mhm. yeah then there's another one that's. real organic we went to what's the name. of that that in. Montana City m city. and that's where they they bring the. Breeders bring all the rodeo stock in. they have for for years years I mean I.

don't 50 60 years whatever to uh and. people watch them these kids local. Cowboy kids climb on these horses and. they'll ride I mean they they used to. run 300 horses plus through a day they. ride them to see how they buck and then. every now and then they'll stop and have. an. auction and then they then they go right. back to it by the end of the day these. kids are back there and pick up trucks. with like liters of of whiskey just just. tuck it out move man it's it beats them.

to death buddy mine's daddy sells um I. guess horse seen or whatever they I. don't know what they call it if you're a. horse is it straws it's seing and it is. straws is how they sell them man yeah. they I don't know how much you can get I. guess you can get a I don't I've never. seen the containers they put it in but I. know that they mate with other horses. and they'll have lines of horses coming. up to mate with their horse all spring. sure he's like. a can't do that with th breads but. Quarter Horses you can for racing horses. racing horses have to be actually bread.

they have the the males got to get on. the F oh you can't artificially inate. them yeah I think yeah I'd rather yeah. that's a part of the deal they got to. watch it you can't be selling Seaman in. the Thor bread business because it's so. expensive you know I mean this is a. secretary at Sean whatever can you prove. it you know it's like oh hell the. Celsius is $3 a can. I can't even imagine how much they do it. with everything wild wild wildlife you. know deers things like that you name it.

it's all El out there um did you guys. ever get to play Asia that's one last. question I was thinking did you guys. ever what is Asia anyway that's random. that's a good question Asia is I guess. it's come on now China Vietnam uhhuh. Thailand Thailand uh come on give us. some countries Japan Korea North and. South there you go Malay uh Malaysia. said that but yeah Malaysia again maybe. that's why they call it Asia Asia yeah. Malaysia yeah they just yeah it's a big.

Sacramento Sacramento yeah you go. dude uh but did you guys how far how far. I'm just curious how far because your. music was like has been a fixture in in. in my life you know and and so many. people my age but I just wonder like. what other ethnicities and stuff listen. they've never heard of us we did a thing. for rock my world one year it was a. record company's great idea idea they. came in with all these Q cards and. whatever every country you could all the. ones you just named everything you could. think of but phonetically how you would.

pronounce uh our new song is called Rock. My World we would love for you to like. it in other parts of the world right you. know that kind of thing and so Ronnie. and I as stupid as we are which we said. yes which we said yes and and we're. every language you can think of you know. from Japan. you know just and they had the card They. had it sounded sounded for you my. sister's got a home in Italy my.

brother-in-law is like I'm over there. watching a soccer game he goes and your. commercial came on in this bar and the. break he goes and they shut the whole. place down he goes everybody's on the. edge of their seat they're looking loud. and at the end of it they. go so I still have no idea what we said. in Italian oh look but it was probably. some excist this thing that makes your. head turn around better as long as. there's some young Vietnamese kid. sitting somewhere.

[Music]. going that's what matters man okay uh we. might cut. that uh the new album and the new tour. will they come out simultaneously or how. does that kind of work pretty close I. think the new album comes out in no the. 15th yeah and we start touring in heavy. heavy stuff it starts then February. February March April something like that. we're going to stop for a minute I think. you're going to go do your deal I'm.

going to run to Africa and come back and. then we're going to pick it up at in. June run over there to Congo this guy. yeah yeah you know I'll I'll go down Tob. and cing yeah we'll be over in Murphy's. bur if you need us dude he's down there. well not Murphy Smyrna I mean it's. really Murph Sor we go to smrna go. stream Promised me they'd have it fixed. by then my plane so we got it we're good. um anything else you guys wanted to talk. about there something you else wanted to. get out there no we no we just we're. selling that record right now reboot too.

got to have it got to get it it'll. change your life thanks for the Hang Man. love watching your show and nonsense and. everything is fun and games yeah. appreciate feel lucky to have a job man. really lucky to talk to you guys this. has honestly been one of my favorite. episodes I think it really has you never. said that before right I've said it how. closes every freaking. show heom got back up it's just been. yeah you guys made it so easy and also. you guys have such a good sense of humor. I think um sometimes you get with. musicians and they don't talk they they.

don't they're musicians I remember Tom. Tom paty would like go talk show and. talk freaking musician know there's a. reason why they handed him an instrument. that's all you wanted to do is have. Petty come sit by you do an interview. with him right I. guess how's your voice it's all right. Bill Bill baser told me I was. interviewing him you know doing the. countdown show and I said said so how. did you get to be such a good piano. player he goes well actually I was a. drummer when I was a kid and oh really I.

said I've never heard you play drums go. sh when I was a kid man all I wanted was. a drum set Christmas I get a drum set he. goes I just beat on those drums. relentlessly day and night whatever he. goes and I got good at it I go what. happened he goes I came home from school. one day my drums were gone there was a. bicycle sitting there where my drums. used to be [ __ ] man I go what'd you do. he goes rode my bicycle I got real good. yeah that guy believe that guy believes. in himself too much drums are gone. that's one of those wrote it to.

Cincinnati um kicks Brooks Ronnie dun. thank you guys so much man thank you for. all the years of wonderful music and. entertainment and uh yeah I got I'm. going to come and check out one of the. shows on tour man I'm excited about it. please yeah come see us I will all right. we certainly will thank you guys so much. time man fun stuff K really funj to big. fans I'm just floating on the breeze and. I feel I'm fall like these leaves I must. be. Cornerstone oh but when I reach that.

ground I'll share this piece of mind I. found I can feel it in my bones. [Music].