Andrew Schulz | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #569

I have some tour dates to tell you. about. We'll be coming to College. Station, Texas, Belton, Texas, Oxford, Mississippi, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Chicago, and Miami. All tickets at. the.com. Make sure to not go to any. secondhand site. Um, just go through the. links at. theon.com. Today's guest is a stand-up. comedian. He's a podcaster. Um he has a.

new special called Life on Netflix. It. is miraculously done. I'm very thankful. to have him return to the podcast. Today's guest is Mr. Andrew Schultz. [Music]. [Applause].

Good to see you, man. Good to see you, too. Congratulations on The Child. Thank. you, bro. Appreciate that. Congratulations on all your success. Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. I saw um I'm like 17 minutes in. your special right now. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool. So, dude, the control you. have on stage is that's something I. really admire. like this like. um it's almost like a sharpshooter up. there kind of like there's something I. don't know but you're the way you have. this control on stage is something uh.

it's great thank you man I appreciate. that brother yeah it's cool man how many. times you guys shoot twice we did four. shows yeah two night that venue is so. beautiful shot so well who shot it thank. you uh so I had my guys do it uh like. Shifty Shifty edited I I'm messing I. forget the guys who's the DP and then. Troy Miller was the director ctor and uh. yeah, it's tricky like filming filming. standup is so tricky, especially when. you do these, you know, we're used to. just kind of doing it all ourselves. So. then you go do a special. Yeah. And you.

kind of realize that like each. department is fighting against one. another. Like the video department wants. to make it look beautiful, but making it. look beautiful might make the audio. sound bad. Ah, the audio department. wants to make it sound beautiful. What. makes it sound beautiful might mean your. mic is really low in the room. So now. the show could be shitty for the. audience. You know what I mean? So. there's like all these like we had. speakers I don't know if you notice like.

in the front like usually a lot of times. Yeah. I saw you once you had your foot. up on it. Yeah. And like most people. don't do that because the shot is more. beautiful if you just have like raw. stage but I was like I think that the. special would be better if if the. audience enjoys it the most. Yeah. You. know what I mean? Like that's so I agree. with that. Yeah, cuz if they have fun, you have fun. Exactly. I was like there. was there was one there was one I think. it was like show one and there was like. a miscommunication or something. The. camera guy was a really sweet guy, but. like he thought it was his job to just. keep walking down the aisle and back up. the aisle with the camera. And I'm like,

bro, they got to believe that this is. kind of just happening. And when you. walk in front of them with a camera, all. the illusion kind of falls apart, right? They feel like they're part of a filming. instead of like just part of this show. So yeah, that's the trick. I wish I. didn't even have to tell them we were we. were filming. Yeah. Ah, you know what I. mean? Like I Right. Just make it be a. regular show. Hey, this is just a show. So if you guys yell out or do something, this is as natural as it could possibly. Wonder if you could probably could have. done that in hindsight. Yeah. I mean. earlier ones I was able to do that. But. I think this one I don't know. This one.

maybe I was like nervous. I was like, "Fuck, I really want to make sure that. we could, you know, fill that place four. times and, you know, I I don't know." A. huge venue. It's beautiful. What is. that? Yeah. It's the Beacon in New York. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty. Yeah, dude. This. looks I mean I thought I was like this. is unbelievable looking. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, you guys crushed it. Even the. font that they chose for Andrew. Schultz's life I thought was perfect. There was just a lot of great choices, I. thought. Yeah, the the first uh the a. Netflix special, the you know, the first.

thing that comes up on the black screen. That's actually my wife's handwriting. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. She wasn't aware. that that's what it was, but it was uh. because I don't know how far you are in. the special yet, but most of it is this. like journey of us trying to get. pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I'm. at. I'm I'm at to like Let me think. Oh, after you saw the baby, but it's You. haven't gone through the journey about. getting pregnant. It's just the actual. seeing the child, I guess. The. C-section, the story, all that kind of. stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, it's incredible. Congrats, man. Thanks,

man. Thank you. Yeah. Good to see you, man. Good to see you, man. Unbelievable, bro. Unbelievable. It's freaking been a. while, dude. You've been caught up in. some beef. You were in the [ __ ] rap. beef. I was like, "This dude, I thought. you were going to pop out of Super. Bowl." You know, I was supposed to go to. the Super Bowl. I was supposed to be. part of the show. I was like, "How wild is this [ __ ] going. to get?" No, no, no. We were going to. go, actually. How about You were there, right? No, I didn't go, man. I was Me. and David Spade started making that. movie and so we were we had a shoot. How's that? How's that going? It's. interesting, man. It's done. And do you.

like do you cuz I remember like years. ago when we were doing the pod there was. a you know hopefully you don't feel bad. about me sharing but you had some. frustration with like not being able to. create these projects. Do you remember. us having these conversations where you. like you really wanted to make a TV show. and didn't feel like those doors were. open and now Oh yeah. making this movie. you know you're top of the world. It. must feel pretty cool. Well I think we. just did it ourselves. Nobody wanted to. make it. We took it out. We took it to. the streamers and we Oh you created your. own movie. Yeah. You filmed it before. even No, no, no. We We pitched it first.

Okay. Right. So, we pitched it and. nobody No way. Oh, dude. We couldn't get. And it was Spade, you know? I'm like, even with you and Spade at this point in. your career, there was still hesitation. I just felt like it would have been nice. to feel some support there, you know, like it just would have been like, "Hey, look, just even as a good faith thing, we'll do, you know, something." Also, you probably got PTSD, too, from like. years of wanting to do these things and. not really feeling it. That's true. And. then like now you're at this point where. you're on top of the world. You're like, "All right, now everybody's going to.

give me the opportunity." And then to. still feel that, oh, that sucks. Yeah. But then I realized it's just how it is. It's just life. Yeah. I think I didn't. feel like I I don't know if I felt on. top. I felt like this was a brave thing. we're trying to do. It was a new thing I. was learning. But I felt like with Spade. it kind of was going to be okay because. kind of no-brainer, right? He knows what. he's doing. That's the other thing. It's. like giving us money to make a movie. like we're kind of knuckleheads. It's. kind of a bad idea. Yeah, it is. like on. like to us it's a great idea. We're like. we'll figure it out and they're like. have you done this before? And I'm like.

nah but it's just it's a movie, right? It can't be that hard, right? But a guy like Spade, he's done it. before, you know? Yeah. He'll [ __ ]. know exact He'll have the camera in his. trunk of his car. Everything will be all. figured out. So yeah, why do we have. that attitude? Like we we want to make a. movie and it costs $30 million and we're. like these [ __ ] [ __ ] How dare. they not give us $30 million even though. we've proven we could do nothing. What. is that about? What's it that's kind of. on us a little bit. Oh, totally. Is that.

narcissism? Is it ego? Well, I think I would never think give. me dirt. I would ne like if they even. try to do something like that, I'd be. like this is insane. But what I think. what I realized in it was I I just want. to do something if I can do it by. myself. Whether it's win or lose, it's. like, yes, I'd rather make it something. small and then and even if a some like. was like, let hey, come do it with us or. some studio. I don't want to do that. It's like I just want to do something. that it's like, okay, will people like. this? Will they believe that I tried my. best? Like even if it's not that good,

it's like that's okay. I can just tell. people that go to see it in advance, hey, I'm not going to be that great in. it, but it'll be a cool movie. You know, like I just don't want to lie to it's. just like as long as there's this. transparency, then I think it's fine, you know? I think people admire those uh. that take risks. I think that's almost. like an American thing in general. We. like risktakers. We like people who are. brave. And I wonder if it's baked in our. DNA a little bit. Like our family. members that left their families around. the world to never see them again for. like maybe an opportunity here, right?

Like I think that we're probably we have. like the DNA of the biggest risktakers. on the planet. Yeah. Like Christopher. Columbus, dude. Like what about his. sister or whatever? [ __ ] Boring [ __ ]. Yeah. She just got left and [ __ ]. wherever and probably lived a way better. life. She's not learning Native. American. She's just chilling. She's not. over here lying to Indians [ __ ] for. lunch. Just shows up. What do you mean. there's no gold? But dude, you had to imagine taking off. in a boat. You people are like, "Where. are you head?" You're like, "I don't.

book it. Are you trying to be cool, right? Cuz it's like your last day on. the docks or whatever." You're like, "I. don't know. We'll figure it out when we. get out there." Like when we get out. there. You got you got to be selling the. dream, though. You're like, "No, no, no. Trust me." That's true. Trust me, it's. crazy. Okay. Yeah. They got everything. Women that you get out there. I heard. that you get a couple miles out there. There's just a lot of women out there. They got them on the way. You don't even. have to make it the whole way. They got. stops. Yeah, it is. Uh so anyway, so I think I. think like naturally, you know, you get.

a lot of success. There are going to be. people that enjoy seeing you fail or. whatever it is. But uh unfortunately, I. guess human beings, we got that in us a. little bit. But um I do also feel like. the people that ride for you appreciate. the risk that you be taking. Yeah, I do. think I think all of us as comedians I. think they do. I think that's one of the. reasons why comedians are and podcasting. maybe does well is because well for one. I think we try. to this sounds [ __ ] ego maniacal. I. have no idea. Say it. Say it. Say it. But no, I I heard somebody say that like.

a lot of podcasters they're just trying. to figure out the truth. They just. they're not like we don't work for. anybody. So, it's like you if you ask. somebody a question, it's just cuz you. want to know. Usually, it's not cuz like. there's a producer saying, "Let's let's. get this answer." Yeah. Curiosity is. kind of punished in a way, but maybe. it's cuz they'll put us on such a. pedestal. They're like, "You should know. the answer to these things." It's like, "Well, I don't." And that's why this. guy's here cuz I'm trying to figure out. the answer to it. And I just want to. know their take. Like, right? I might. not even be able to communicate that. well a rebuttal or grill them that well,

but I just want to like I don't want to. grill them. I want to know what they. think. And then I'll bring somebody else. who thinks something different and I'll. ask him that. And but yeah, that is I. guess maybe some criticism. It's like, uh, well, why'd you ask why didn't you. ask this question or why didn't you. rebuke rebuke that? And it's like, bro, I don't know. I don't know anything just. yet. Yeah, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a. politician. Like, I got in this own trap. of just cuz of last year we got to have. some political people on the podcast and. I was like, then dude, there was like a. like a month ago I started thinking. like, oh, I'm a political guy, right? for like.

did you feel like you had to be. informed? Were you like reading Wall. Street Journal? No, I just like I. thought like cuz here was the crazy. thing. People started coming up to me. Political guy. Yeah, dude. Well, people. would come up to me and ask me about. political [ __ ] I was like like asking. your take. Yeah, dude. I was like, I. don't [ __ ] know. I don't know, dude. like you know or like so but then I. started to realize wow people's. perceptions are affected like how they. see people where they see them at and. stuff and then I was like well I do have. some political thoughts like most of.

them are just kind of regular people's. kind of thoughts and ideas like they're. not super indepth um but yeah I think. for like a week I started smoking my own. nuts and thinking I was like [ __ ] uh. Jed or Hoover or somebody you know I. actually think that like whatever your. perception or your feelings are about. something that's actually more valuable. than what the uh like factual truth is. because most people aren't reading up on. the factual truth, right? Like you got. to meet people where they are. emotionally. That's a good point. And. the people are trusting their gut. So I.

think yeah, when when you do just talk. to somebody and you don't let the people. let people decide, well, do I do I think. I believe that guy? Do I you know, and. then they get to decide and you might. hate what that person says, but don't. dismiss him because there might be a lot. of people that feel that same way. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's a lot. of people like I've heard people say. this uh a lot. They go, uh, they go, you. know, the economy actually wasn't that. bad, you know, under Biden, whatever it. is, the economy. And it's like, bro, bro, bro, you can't tell somebody who. feels the economy is bad that it's not.

bad. That's a good point, right? Like. they if they feel like the eggs are. expensive, that's what they feel. It's. like I always say this, like if I get. into an argument with my wife, like I do. something to piss her off and um like. she doesn't want me to explain to her. why she shouldn't be upset, right? Like. that never works, right? Like I know. you're upset, but you shouldn't be. because of these reasons. She's like, "Fuck you." She just wants me to be. like, "Hey, my bad. I'm sorry I made you. feel that way." And I feel like our. whole political discourse, and I don't.

know anything about politics, but I feel. like the whole political discourse is. just like, "You're wrong because" And. then the other side going, "You're wrong. because" And then it's just shows set up. to dunk on one another. Like there's no. good faith conversation. And the second. we're out here having like a good faith. conversation, like we bring somebody on. and we're just like, "All right, so what. do you feel about the world?" People go. to us like, "You [ __ ] [ __ ] How. dare you not dunk on that guy? How dare. you not humiliate him on your podcast so. I can feel good at home?" It's crazy, right? Yeah. Yeah. And you can't win.

Like we had like Candace Owens and. Hassan [ __ ] They're like different. sides of the aisle last week, right? You. had like Broen had Ian Carol and you had. Candace on like I think the same day. It. was a tough tough week for Israel. Stayed inside. She just went to the. tunnels. They're like. Everybody into the tunnels. Put the. mattresses back in, son. We got to. figure we got to regroup. But dude, I. didn't [ __ ] know. I thought, well, somebody from the left and somebody from.

the right, right? But I didn't Oh, bro. Sorry. Go. Yeah. I had no I was just. like, "Okay, let's let's hear some. different thoughts and different. opinions or whatever." That's the other. thing I realized like I think it was. after the last special, right? I was. like, "Okay, you know what? I'm going to. kind of chill. Like I want to spend time. with my family, my friends. like I I. like I'm not going to go out and do as. many like pods and stuff like that, you. know? I got a lot of work that I'm doing. at home and uh and I don't know what. that like I'm not saying I'm famous, but. I don't know what the [ __ ] like it is to. be f like I never wanted to be famous. Like I knew that that might have been.

like a byproduct of having success in. comedy, but it wasn't like I never like. studied being famous. Like I didn't give. a [ __ ] about like how to be a famous. person. Does that make sense? Well, yeah. I mean, well, who knew that. podcast would have such would be uh and. clips of podcast would get out somewhere. would be huge, right? So, like I. remember I was like, okay, I'm not I'm. just going to chill. I'm like, I'm not. going to be doing as many pods, etc. And. uh that's the thing that I realized like. having different voices on your pod. doesn't really do anything for your for. the people's perception of you that.

aren't your fans. Wait, say it one more. time so I hear it. So, like, so we pro I. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but like we probably think like I'm. going to have different voices on my. podcast. And like one, I'm curious and I. want to know what they think, but two, I. I want to also like let the people out. there in the world know like I care. about hearing from different people and. I care about having diversity of thought. on my podcast, right? The people that don't know you, the casuals, are just judging you by the. worst thing you've ever had on your. podcast and the worst thing you've ever. said, right? I didn't realize this until.

recently. the the best way to like. thwart those perceptions of you is not. by having people on your show cuz the. casuals don't watch your show. It's by. going to your biggest critic's show and. sitting down with them or or not even. your biggest critic but like going to. somebody who like might have a very. different like worldview than you and. then you guys sit down and realize, oh. [ __ ] we actually don't have that. different a worldview. That was all a. perception. Anyway, I think a lot of. times we go, okay, we're really busy. It's like hard for us to go around and.

do different shows and that kind of. stuff because I I think our perception. is is not going like how can I be the. most famous person? Like I don't give a. [ __ ] I want to make the coolest standup. that I possibly can. I want to hang out. with my friends and I want to talk some. [ __ ] on podcast. Like that's enough for. me. Yeah. But I've realized the. importance now of going to other. people's homes and having those. conversations. You know, like we had. Hassan on our pod. It probably would. have been more beneficial for me to also. go on his stream and talk to him and let. him bring up [ __ ] that I said and like. tell me have him tell me like why I'm.

missing this like nuance point and be. like, "Oh, that's interesting." Like. that might actually be better for the. people that barely understand me or. don't even know me to have like a more. holistic view of of me and like. understand who I am as to actually go. into their world a little bit more. Yeah. Cuz then you find things about me. that might not come up on the pot. like. you start asking me things about like. how I feel about, you know, I don't. know, whatever it is. I don't know if. it's [ __ ] like Marxism or some [ __ ]. like that. And I go, "Oh, yeah, maybe. that actually that kind of sounds good. on paper. I don't know. It'd be nice if. there was a little bit more equality for.

people and people who had nothing had. the ability to come up. That'd be pretty. cool." Yeah. Little light Marxism. Yeah. Just light. No, you know what I mean? Hey, you can't you got to cut it with. something. You got you need majority. capitalism, you know? It's like a. cappuccino. You know what I mean? You. can't have We're not taking espresso. shots of Marxism. You know what I. mean? It's just We like capitalism here. at the end of the day. Yeah. Just a. [ __ ] latte. Just Yeah. Half calf. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, dude. Yeah. I. I don't know. It's all It's definitely.

been Well, mainstream media just got so. like I don't know. The whole thing has. been bizarre, man. Being a part of. podcasting, you know, all the strange. little connections that are out there. I. mean, like you were saying, G uh G Gavin. Newsome just started a podcast where. he's having people who kind of disagree. with him when he had Charlie Kirk on. I. think it's a really smart thing, which. is pretty wild, you know? I think it's a. really smart thing. Um, we were talking. about that at the beginning and Dove, your producer, said that well, he felt. like this was kind of Newsome's last. hope, too. It's like cuz he was probably. he's probably on the way out. So, unless.

he could do something to salvage that. 100%. But having a podcast and it's. having people you don't agree with hang. out with you for a while is it's pretty. brave. It's also like show that's the. exact word I was. is like brave. You. want to show bravery and I think like. not to be political or whatever but I. think in the last and again I don't care. about politics but like culture is. interesting to me but I think in the. last you know election with the podcast. run and I just want to say is personally. I don't think that we changed the. election at all. I I have no ego about. that. That was decided way before us.

Yeah. like it it it may made people feel. more comfortable voicing how they were. already gonna vote, but I don't think. people are watching like I'm completely. flipped on this. Yeah, that's insane. Also, yeah, but uh but yeah, I think. that the the lack of representation of. Kamla and even like her constituents on. the podcast run, I think it showed a. lack of bravery. Like the the feeling. was like, oh, they're scared to go have. potentially tough conversations. It.

wasn't even gonna be tough with us. I. know. What are we gonna grill her on? I. couldn't even think of a thing. I mean, I heard that she roller skated a lot and. I would be curious about that, but it's. like other than that, it's like I don't. know what I would have talked about, but. her people are going we can't go on. field. I mean, he's just going to come. with the hard-hitting questions like. what, right? Like something like that is. insane. But we don't you don't you. appreciate that? Like as as much as. Gavin Newsome just seems like a plastic. bag in the wind, I'm also.

like brave. You're willing to sit down. on something recorded. I wouldn't talk. to Charlie Kirk. That [ __ ] is a. good arguer. Candace, too. Candace, I always say. that's Rogan said Candace is is John. Wick. You do not get in her [ __ ] way. Uh-uh. Oh, she Yeah, she's definitely uh. Yeah. When you said her kid looked like. Anthony Smith, I was like, you better I. was like, you a crazy [ __ ] right. here, bro. That look a beautiful kid. Beautiful. You can stop the beautiful.

That's what you do. You stop the. beautiful cuz you do not want Candace to. get fixated. Okay. You do not want her. to get fixated. The second she comes up. with a Theo video, you got to hope. something happens in Israel Palestine. Shift the. attention type, bro. That was layered cuz you made a. German as well. I brought that in. I. can't believe that happened. Thank you, dude. Gaze is I did not believe that was. going to come up. I just started with. Gaza and then I was like, I this won't.

be funny. I hope people get how layered. that is. That is Thank you, dude. That. was teamwork, though. I don't know about. that. I think you went 101 right there. I said that her daughter looks a little. bit like she Oh, the daughter is. beautiful. So, I think what we got to. say is that Anthony Smith is a beautiful. little girl. Like, I think that's the. better way of describing. He's a savage. fighter. He's the fisty Charlemagne, baby. I think that's. all that I think is all safe to say. No, he does look mixed a little bit. Is.

he mixed? Oh, Anthony. Yeah, he is. Mixed with what? I'm I don't know. I. think he's li, you know, he's latte or. whatever they call it. He is. But. Anony's incredible. And that little and. that the daughter looks incredible. Beautiful. I know. She is. Um, but shout. out to Candace. It's so funny how like. And shout out to Charlemagne, too. I I. just made I made a joke one time about. him. Um, I said he had he was Oh, he's. handsome. Yeah, he's handsome. He loved. that one. And uh I don't remember what. happened with it, but I just thought it. was I think he brought it up. He was.

like, "There's a deal. a lot of things. I'm hand. He doesn't age though. Oh dear. No, he's. killing it. He's killing it. You know, I. would like to get to meet I've never I. don't know if I've ever met him. I got. to connect you guys, man. Yeah, you guys. would have a great talk. I bet we. probably would. Yeah, of course. Um. yeah, I saw that they just had uh who. did they have on there that I love? Who. on Breakfast Club? Yeah, I can't. remember. The Candace Baldon stuff. I. don't know if you were following that at. all. I didn't get into that. I don't get. into a lot of the celebrity lore. The.

only reason why it's interesting to me. is that um you know like Candace has. like been positioned in a way on the. internet, right? Like and she existed. there and people had her opinions on her. and like everybody was stuck. They're. like that's this girl and and bad. No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't listen to. her at all. And she started talking. about that Baldoni Blake Lively thing. And even my wife was hitting me like. have you heard this Candace Owens girl. talking about I mean she just exposes. the whole thing. Like it's crazy how. like like social utility frames how.

people see you. So you could be a bad. guy and then you start talking in depth. about something that people care about. and then all of a sudden while you're. talking about that you're a good guy, you're a hero. That's interesting. Like what does that. say about us? Is is. it What's the same with the politic. thing? It's like people see you talking. to a politician and now like at your. Christmas and family stuff, people are. coming up and talking to you about. asking you about politics and [ __ ] and. foreign protocol or whatever. You're.

like [ __ ] You're like, "What. should we do in Syria, Theo?" You're. like, "Man, let me let me make a call or. two. I don't know.". Yeah. People are asking if I was going. to be an ambassador to something or. whatever. Where would you be an. ambassador to? I don't know. Going to. ask for Louisiana. Yeah. And they're. like, "We don't we don't need one of. them that Yeah, but we should make a. special position." Yeah. But we need. Hey, look. I don't know if you heard. some of the slang down there, but we. need somebody who can communicate. We. need an interpreter between the White. House and Booy, okay? Because we're.

[ __ ] We're losing information. Theo. Vaughn for ambassador of Louisiana. The. greatest thing the Trump administration. has ever done. Shake it like a dog, baby. Do what you do. I'll just be I'll. be I'll be uh breaking down rap lyrics. for him. Dude, that is creepy. Is that. Robert Green's face on the 48 Laws of. Power? Oh my god. That is one of the most. terrifying things I keep looking at like. over your over your shoulder. That's. crazy. I thought it was Dexter. Now he. looks like VGO from Ghostbusters 2.

Remember the dude in the painting? Bring him up. VGO. Did you see Ghostbusters 2? No. No, I. didn't see it. My mom wouldn't let us. watch that kind of stuff. Oh, wow. He. does. And so do I a little bit. No. And. so does Alan Dersuit. Yeah, so you are involved in politics. You. know all these names. Well, but you're. plugged in, bro. But aren't we plugged. in? Here's the cra the funny thing about. Candace is they're like they were like, "You're an anti-semite." And she's like, "Fucking call me whatever you want. I'm. a [ __ ] I have one of the top 10.

podcasts in the world." She really don't. care. She doesn't give up. She does not. And the amount of people that listen to. her, it's like true. It's true. And she. And she changes public sentiment. Like. she flipped that whole Blake Lively. Baldon thing. guy that flipped like he. was a I don't want to say pariah but. people are like this guy's a [ __ ]. douchebag. Another one of these like I'm. a fe male feminist guys and then you're. really a creep on set. She completely. 180 the internet on that. Baldon got to. give her a check. That's a good point. She don't even want it. I bet she got to. be so rich because there you need to be.

you need to have some money to be that. brave and have kids. That's a good. point. Huh. Right. Like once you have. kids you got to you know you got to make. sure you can protect those kids. The dad. must be like. a a rifleman or something or like a um. the dad of the babies, right? The dad. Yeah. Somebody has to be. Yeah. They're. going to hire Anthony Smith now to. actually help protect that family. That'd be pretty great actually. Denzel. Washington man on fire. That'd be pretty great, dude. That'd be.

so great. They show up to their next. some place with the whole family and. Anthony Smith as their [ __ ]. bodyguard. That would be pretty sick, dude. Bro, she could be in The. Bodyguard. It's That's the new Bodyguard. starring Candace Owens and Anthony. Smith. Wow. Whose baby is it? You don't want to do that. No, she'll. get pissed, dude. You don't want to do. that. And what if she What if she breaks. the story down? She finds out that it's. that's the whole story. Stop it. Stop. it. Stop it. Yeah. A deep dive on her.

and she she's surprised by her own Yes. results. You would never see that. coming. No, but that sounds like a cool. It actually sounds like a cool movie or. something. But we're just joking, Candace. We do not. Candace, by the way, we want no problems at all. We want zero. problems. Are we all looking into the. cams when we say this? Can't we want. zero problems? Okay. Zero problems. Harp. Weinstein didn't do it. Wait, wait, wait. That's what she's on. That's what. she's saying now. That's what she's. saying. But yeah, I will say you can't. predict her at all. No, she's brave and.

she's thorough. Yeah. And she's never. lost a lawsuit. So there she is. But it. is kind of crazy how like the mainstream. media had just been this machine and. then now you're starting to see like oh. what about these stories you never heard. about? What about the fact that um some. information might not even be true. because it was all just kind of like. part of a plan. Like that shit's kind of. wild. Yeah. And that makes podcasting. and like freelance communication or. whatever it's called uh even more.

interesting. I don't even know what to. believe. Now when I'm you see clips and. I start I'm like oh this is what I and. you're like dude I have there's no real. place to get complete factual truth. Well maybe except your instinct. Yeah. but maybe because like there is no. complete factual truth. That could be it. too. I think that's the thing. And I. think it was probably easier when. there's like a few different news. channels to disseminate information like. kind of we all agree on more let hey. this is what happened during the Civil. War, right? This is what happened during. the Revolutionary War. All right. This. is what happened during World War II. I.

didn't even know Russia did anything. during World War II until like a few. years ago. I found out like 25 million. Russians died in World War II. Nuh-uh. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. Pull that. up. How many Russians died in World War. II? That's unbelievable. You don't ever. hear about that. Never hear. But why. would we teach that, right? You know, but it gives you a different concept of. who did what. 27 million. Wow. Oh my. god. Yeah. 19 million civilian deaths, 8.7 million military deaths. That's the thing with Russia. It's.

tricky. It's like, so they were an. allied force, right? Yeah. And then. immediately afterwards, you know, we. started, you know, beefing in the Cold. War and all that kind of stuff. But. yeah, we had a united cause at one point. in time cuz I think Hitler invaded. Russia. Oh, wow. Yeah. But the problem. with invading Russia is like they have a. like a cultural. um acceptance of misery, right? So they. kind of like it in the beginning. Is. that what you're saying? Of war. You're. saying they're like, "Oh, finally this. is our we're back to homeostasis." be. our guest. Be our guest. Yeah. Like I.

don't know. Yeah. Exactly. So, so I. don't know. I just feel like if like. Americans, we like it. We like we like. we like nice [ __ ] We like it being. comfortable. We're we're brave. That's. what I will say. Like I don't have. concerns about us losing a war because I. do think that we we value freedom. Like. I don't think we would ever accept being. controlled by another country. I think. that the majority of us would rather die. before that happens. or we just don't. know that it's happening. Here you go.

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Whoever's doing this is asking for it. You need to stop right now. Yeah. Listen, this is not fair. Whoever's. doing this, but Candace looks great. Oh. my god. Beautiful woman. Wow. I look. like Oh, that's Anthony Smith. I thought. that was my face. [ __ ] my face. Yeah. Theo Theo Theo cast himself in the. movie. I cast myself as Anthony Smith. Does it look a I [ __ ] My nose is a.

little bigger than his though. Lip is. the same. That's crazy. I looked at that two. times. I was like, I wonder how they did. that. But let's go. Huh. Wow. Yeah. Can't We're It's not going to age well. It'll be fine, Candace. It's um We're. joking. It's all jokes. But yeah, I. mean, and but the worst if you see a. Charleston White video before you go to. see if that's the last one you see. That's a wild dude. Charleston. Have you. had him on your show? No. Have you? Uh-uh. That's a wild dude, man. He He is.

just so unpredictable. Every that the. next sentence he says is also one of. these things where it's like people who. say wild [ __ ] can also be hilarious. Let's stop acting like both of those. can't be true. You know what I mean? Like him, Dr. Umar. I love Dr. Umar. I've been trying to get Dr. Umar on my. show forever. He thinks Well, he thinks. I want to debate him. Oh yeah. And I he. I don't think he understands that. Like. I'm just a fan. Like I just think he's a. hilarious communicator. Does the culture. Does black culture [ __ ] with Dr. Umar or. No. As the spokesman for black culture,

I would say yes. Yeah. I would I I I. would say yes. That's fair. Yeah, that's. fair. Yeah. Because I know sometimes. people are iffy on Charleston White in. the black culture, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like maybe it's like uh. his position is more critical, right? Whereas like maybe Dr. Rumor also has. the same critiques of certain things, but he is like, "Hey, we're black first. and we got to stay united. We got to. lock this down. We got to do what's best. for the community, but he is a like. magnificently gifted speaker." Like he.

just talks in sound bites. He has this. like pastoral repetition. Like remember. like early Chris Rock how he would like. repeat the premise over and over again. and it kind of like just hanging emlazed. into your head. Um but yeah, man. Have. you ever talked to him? Do uh Charles. White? No. No. Dr. Umar. Yeah. No, I. just familiar with him, right? I just. heard about him. No joking. One week. ago. No way. Somebody mentioned, "Have. you seen Dr. Umar?" Uh, I think my buddy. Zeta told me about him and showed me. him. Oh, dude. He I thought this Oh, I.

thought that was [ __ ] Kendrick. Perkins or. whatever. I just saw this guy. So, you. thought Dr. was moonlighting on TNT and. now everybody's just trusting everything. he says? I was like [ __ ] changed. Like, why is Drewuski going to him for. dating advice? Why why is Kendrick. Perkins like that they came after Drew? Yeah, that [ __ ] ass claim and. against Odell too. That's the thing. And.

then like whatever girl did that [ __ ]. like we'll never hear from her again. So. you can just say these stupid [ __ ] It's. just you should be you should have to go. to jail for that. Yeah, you should have. to go to jail for that [ __ ] Yeah, cuz. he he has to go out and say I didn't do. that. Like that's a crazy thing to have. to say as a human. Jay-Z had to say that. [ __ ] and then they just dropped the. lawsuit. Did you see that? Against. Jay-Z. Yeah. And then again, nobody even. notices when the lawsuit's dropped. It's. like you got to scream it from the. rooftops or else nobody will pay. attention. And that goes to that like. hater [ __ ] with the successful. It's.

like that story was so popular because. there was probably a lot of people that. were like, "Man, [ __ ] Jay-Z for having a. perfect wife and an amazing family and a. child and billions of dollars." Yeah, he. probably did that [ __ ] Damn. And so. then they'll they're the ones tweeting. it, sharing it, everything. And there's. bots now. I mean, it's just it's. definitely bizarre. You got to trust. your own gut. But yeah, you could see an. article, it's the last thing you saw. And then you're like, people are like, damn, wasn't that guy addicted to drugs? You're like, that guy is just won an. Oscar. It's just like, you know what I'm.

saying? If you didn't tap into what's. been going on, you know, it's all crazy, man. You'll see stories about yourself. that are crazy. I saw a story that I was. like a. alligation or something and I was like. like a billionaire's stepchild or. whatever. And I was like, "What are you. [ __ ] I was like, if my dad if we had. any money, yeah, they'd never no one. ever had it." But yo, here's the thing. with that story is like that story is. just to discredit you, right? Like if. you come from crazy money, everybody.

gets to go, "Ah, see, it's not real.". And he actually didn't have to. experience this kind of traumatic. childhood and like this is all [ __ ]. It's like the story is specifically. designed to cut your legs out from under. you. It's like why why do people want to. do that? Why is that? And maybe it's in. all human beings. Maybe it's just. something that we have to to grapple. with. But uh you but I imagine like the. more confident you are in yourself, the. more happy you could be for people who. get success. Yeah, that's a good point, man. I think. realizing that I think well I think for.

a while you come from like a scarcity. mentality you know where you're like man. shit's not like [ __ ] somebody's. something bad's g you know this ain't. going to be okay this is going to go. away right this starts to change or like. the government's just going to come and. take everything from you you can't. believe that it's happened after so many. years of trying yeah and then also you. like you don't know how to have like. things and so you're like well dude I. remember being ashamed of myself when I. didn't have anything and being ashamed. of myself when I did have something but. it was really crazy it was like I tried. to hide I'd always mask my life because.

I didn't want people thinking that. seeing that I didn't have anything or. that I didn't feel like I was anything. And then even when I got a house in. Nashville, it's a nice home. It's not. like, you know, some cra it's a nice. home, but it's not a like a billion. dollar home or anything. But um I didn't. want to show people my live. I just. didn't want them to see like, you know, I don't know. It's just [ __ ] crazy. It was like, so in the end, there was. some part of me that just didn't want to. be that either only cared about what you. thought or just didn't want to be happy. for myself no matter what. And then you.

can never feel comfortable no matter. where you are in this in this journey, man. It's and that's I guess what is. what would they say that that comes down. to like self-acceptance. It's like once. you accept it like you you should be. entitled to your success and you work. hard for it, then you're not as. dependent on like the validation of. others. I know. But um it's hard to get. away from that. I think I don't know if. it's hard. Some things like doing. Iawaska, that kind of stuff has helped a. lot of that stuff go away though. Yeah, that kind of stuff's been a been a um. You've done that a few times. Oh yeah. Yeah. I like it, dude. Really? Yeah. You.

do it enough times, they give you this. jacket. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Some guy. walks out of the jungle in Costa Rica. Jeta, you got a punch. card to get an Eagles Letterman jacket. That is so ridiculous, dude. That is. cool. You know who told me? Neil told me. that uh Oh, yeah. Neil Brennan became. the he became like this connector. Go. on. But no, I think that's kind of what. it is. Like, you know, Neil is uh one of.

his super powers is his. cynicism, you know, like he's constantly. consumed. I hope he doesn't mind me. saying this, but he's constantly. consumed of like what the the worst case. scenario of something would be or what. the worst what the worst person would. think about the thing he's doing. And um. what's what's good about that is like. when you're creating stuff, you there's. a there's an advantage in that you're. always thinking about what your biggest. critic could say. So maybe you really. try to sharpen every premise and sharpen. every joke and make sure there's no fat. and it's like infallible. And the.

negative aspect about that is that like. if you're just creating for them, it's. hard to create something authentically. And then he said, he was like, "Listen, after I did that, like that voice. started to dim a bit and like I didn't. have I wasn't constantly consumed with. the critic and I was able to make I. think my best shit." And I think that's. true. It's like it's hard to create. authentically when you're worried about. what critics would say. Like you're just. making [ __ ] for them, you know? Like or. for somebody, especially when your whole.

life you've only tried to you've gained. a lot of your acceptance from other. people. Yeah. You know, I think that's. probably been a lot of my life, but I. didn't even know who I was. There wasn't. a me. So, the only thing there was was. your reaction. Yeah. So, I didn't. [ __ ] Do you think you found yourself? I think it's gotten better as I've. gotten older. I think some of it is. getting older. You just kind of like, I. can't even [ __ ] Whoever you are, [ __ ] we got to come out. We. ain't got a lot of time left, bro. You've been hiding for 40 years, my boy. Like, enjoy some of this [ __ ] We got a.

new jacket. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, bro. Hey, man. Come on now, man. We got to We got. to figure this [ __ ] out though. You just. getting tired of it. You just That's. funny. That's great, dude. Uh yeah. So, I don't know. But I think also you just. get old and you're like there's just no. you're whatever part of you that still. cares about that [ __ ] starts to go away. I think it's just exhausted, too. Well, I think chasing its tail kind of. Maybe. that's the maybe that's the release for. you with something like Iawaska where. instead of like constantly searching for.

what it is and who you are. You do feel. connected to whatever this greater. existence is and you just get to go, okay, I'm not going to [ __ ] worry all. day about what exactly I am and what I. don't have and just be this, you know, bottomless pit that a lot of us in. entertainment can be. Like there is and. maybe that's what you need. Maybe you. need that reminder. Yeah. Maybe you need. that reminder you're part of something. bigger. Yeah, I think that uh that's a good. point because once you feel like you're. part of something bigger, there's some. connection, then you kind of don't just. think about yourself. You're not as.

isolated. Yeah. You're not it's it's on. it's it's there's something liberating. about knowing things are way bigger than. you. Yeah. When it's not bigger than. you, it's very easy to get caught in. your own head. It's [ __ ] a lot of. pressure I imagine if you're just. thinking about you and like how you're. being perceived and if you're becoming. the man you thought you would be and you. know if you feel comfortable with the. success you've had how other people will. react to that success that's crippling. that [ __ ] yeah there's a lot of stuff. that's kind of like scary I think as you.

get older I think yeah popularity is. kind of scary watching your own ego and. being conscious of like what is your ego. and what is just you trying to have some. self-confidence in yourself especially. if some of those things are kind of like. you're like kind of a late bloomer and. some of that shit's happening, you know, can be happens simultaneously. It's all. Yeah. What's an example of that? And I. mean, even some of like thinking about I. knew something about politics. It was. like just the fact that it took me a. couple weeks to realize, dude, you don't. know about [ __ ] politics. Like, yeah, you got to talk to some political. people. Um, but do and how much do they.

really know? And but it's like don't. that's a trap, right? What do you know. about? You know about like being. curious. You know about like wanting to. talk to different people. You know about. trying to be funny, you know? I think I. think politics is always a reflection of. culture. Like politics is downstream. from cultural needs and necessities. And. I think that one of the things that's. made you so successful is I think you're. deeply connected to culture. Like you. you're aware of what people are feeling. You're a aware of what they're. frustrated by. And um you know.

regardless if there's like data analysis. to back up every single one of those. claim like to me that doesn't mean. anything. Like you can list out all the. facts you [ __ ] want, but like you're. aware of people's frustrations and um. politicians have to react to that. So. you don't need to know like what [ __ ]. senator is pushing what bill cuz they're. all reacting to the thing that you're. more acutely aware of probably than even. them. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it like you can't be. a comedian if or at least a high. performing comedian if you're not in.

touch with like what people are feeling. Yeah. Like I at its core, I think that's. really what makes somebody a good comic. It's like Yeah. And how to stay like. just how to like stay in stay connected. to that type of thing, I guess. You. know, um and sometimes with success, it's harder to connect to it and it's. also harder for them to connect to you. That's probably why you want to hide the. house in Nashville. You're like, "Fuck, well, they feel like they can't relate. to me because of this new life I live.". I what that that's something that like. So, I grew up in New York City, right? And like in the city you grew up. Yeah.

I grew up in Manhattan and uh one of the. things about growing up in Manhattan, it's incredibly humbling. Like you never. feel You weren't in the newsies. You. were not in the news. I was in the. newsies. Were you really? No, I was I. was in Newies. People ask for it. No. No. I can't remember when that was, but I. love that movie. Good movie. I think. Christian Bale was in that [ __ ] right? Yeah. Yeah. Crunchy. That little guy. like give me the paint. So [ __ ] that. was my childhood. I'm just saying.

[ __ ] [ __ ] You got a [ __ ] kid. on one crutch hiking through [ __ ]. sell the newspaper. Hiking up the LIC. with a [ __ ] sack of newspapers, dude. Lie. The LI with a sack of newspapers, man. But anyway, like you just humbled. constantly. You never feel like you got. money. There's always somebody way. richer. There's always somebody with a. way better job. There's always someone. with a better care. Like because you're. in the city where the most successful of. all the people have. So you never feel. like you never feel this this concern.

that you were talking about which is. like oh if I show this nice thing I have. people will think that I'm I consider. myself better than them or something. If. you grow up in New York you never feel. that way because there's always someone. so much higher than you. You know what I. mean? There's always someone so much. more wealthy than so it's just this. there's like a hustle mentality which is. like I'm going to work really [ __ ]. hard. Yeah. for as long as I possibly. can and I'm gonna try to get some nice. [ __ ] but I'm gonna earn it. I'm not. going to just have it handed to me. I'm.

gonna [ __ ] bust my ass. But when I do. get it, I don't feel guilty about it. because it ain't even as close as nice. as the guy who lives three blocks that. way. Yeah. So, but I I understand like. my mom's from Scotland, like [ __ ]. you know, comes from nothing. There's. that sentiment of like you getting. something nice, the community could feel. like, "Oh, do you think you're you think. you're better than us now because you. got this fancy house?" Oh, yeah. When I. was a kid, like if somebody could read, people would call him a or whatever, you. know?

Like if you got a if somebody brought. home a bee on our bus, dude, if [ __ ]. you were just a just a [ __ ] sick. homosexual, you know? You [ __ ] Yeah. They would beat you up. I mean, they. would let people ride home on our bus. with no shirts on and I'm like and yeah, I like why don't people have to have. shirts on or whatever, but it was just. like Yeah, it was just Yeah. I don't. know. It's tough. You want to kind of. stay like I don't know. As your life. changes and as you get older, things. change, your life gets bigger and you. kind of sometimes want to just stay the.

same. Like I think there's parts of. moments in my life that I really miss. where I was real comfortable and I think. as your life changes sometimes it. probably is like a a new space. What's. that been like for you having a child. since I know a lot of your special was. about it? Like the greatest. Was that. something that took away a lot of that. just worrying about yourself type of. thing? I mean, did it really or you just. is that something that people just say? I'm glad that you asked that second. question. But the the weird thing about. having a kid is it it is literally every. cliche that anybody has ever said. All. right, that's little Shiloh. Dang. Huh?

Little cutie. Wow. At the beach. Rich, huh? What UFC fighter does she look. like? Oh, no. Hold on. Don't do it. Huh? Don't do that. I think we got to do it. He's. a but. But for your wife, you have to. say that. She And this is Nick. You know. who it is. He's got a fight coming up. Michael Chandler. a little. But he's fighting Vulcanowski. Oh, Lopez a little bit. Oh my god. He's. a pretty [ __ ] I'll take that. That's a compliment. That's got to be a.

new segment. I think one of the podcast. is what? Yo yo yo, he's good. He's good. A that's pretty cute. Little cutie. I I. don't now I don't want him to hear me. say that. But there's something very charming. about him. She's a beautiful young lady. That's going to be a great fight. Shout. out Vulk, too, man. That is a I think. that is an exciting fight, huh? Yeah. Seeing Vulcanowski sing the other night. about that voice, bro. I know. He's got. a good voice. And it's just fun to see.

his per like it's so great I think if. fighters are around long enough where. you get to see their personalities, you. know, like they used to only have to. just be so tough and now they can do. that but also like have a bit of. showmanship, you know? Yeah. We want to. connect to them. Yeah. But I will, you. know, back to the kid. Yeah. It's every. cliche you've ever heard times a. thousand. Like it and it's there's a. reason why that exists. I imagine it's. like we all should have this reaction. towards children, right? Like their. smile is the best smile. Their laugh is. the best laugh. It's the most incredible. experience you ever had in your life.

And there's a little part of you as like. a comedian that goes, you know, oh, I'm. going to have these unique takes on. being a father. And it is your takes are. so similar to every other person who's. ever been a dad, which is which is now I. see as a beautiful thing, right? But um. yeah, your life gets really small. I can. only speak for myself, but like I just. don't care as much about other things, you know? Like I I want to spend time. with her. I want to spend time with my. wife. And I as long as they're proud of. me and happy with me, that's enough, right? Anything else.

is it's icing on the cake. It feels. really good. Like the response to the. special feels really good. It's like. amazing. Like all these people who went. through IVF and had a similar journey as. us to like get pregnant, like they they. talking about it like feels really good. Yeah. But but I'll tell you one thing, as long as like my wife and and baby are. are are happy with me, like that's Yeah. It's It is an amazing I hope you. experience it, man. If that's something. that you'd like to experience, but it's. I would like to have that, man. It's. cool to hear a parent say that, too, you.

know? I think that like it's nice to. hear a parent say those things about. their family. Did um it's it's so cool, man. It is. Also, you'll watch a like. it's very very rare in life you get to. see somebody give 100%. Like really. 100%. And like when you watch them in. labor is 100%. really. It's just they're. giving everything they possibly can. give. What happens if they just do 80%. or whatever? 60% or that baby stays in. there, bro. Like we had to do a.

C-section. Uh we My wife had to do a. C-section obviously. Like I didn't do. anything. I just sat there like an. [ __ ] And uh but it was um but yeah, it's just amazing what they're willing. to do. Like my wife lost a lot of blood. and like uh like 50 Cent almost. Literally. It was like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very similar. actually to what 50 went through. I got. to talk to 50 about that. I was like, "Dude, you basically got a C-section out. there in Jamaica, Queens, bro. We talk. about that like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

50 C. 50 C. He's good. He's [ __ ]. good." No, but but bro, it was like she. had no energy left. She had no blood in. her system left. And they ask her, they're like, "Can you do a little. breastfeeding for the baby because she. needs to eat right now." And then. they're like, "If you don't have energy, that's fine." She breastfeeds the baby. The second the baby pulls off, this is. like after I don't know how long it is. She goes, my wife's like, "She, is she. good?" And the doctor is, "Yeah, she's. good." And the second the doctor takes. her off, she just closes her eyes and.

passes out. But it's like there's this. like primal urge to do anything for. that. They'll do anything for that baby. And it is like, yeah, it's a beautiful. human experience to watch somebody love. something like otherworldly love. M and. uh yeah, I think it's a really important. part of if you if you're lucky enough to. be able to do it, it's a really. important part of like the life. experience. It just makes everything it. makes everything small and and uh and. worthwhile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. That's Yeah. Thanks for sharing that,

man. Sure. Did What's it like to see. your parents interact with your with. your with your child? So, my dad is my. dad has dementia. I know he's sick, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's had dementia for. a while now. So, he's it's hard for him. He did the intro to your special. Yeah, that was pretty cool. That was cool, dude. I was wondering, was that tough. for you guys to get him to pull it off. or it was okay? You know what's. interesting is like he's like we put the. This is We filmed that actually at the. early part of the tour. I loved how your. special started off with the joke. because it it maybe it just like Oh, I'm. already having a nice time. Boom. I.

thought it was a great choice. Y'all. made I thought it was one of the best. Um I thought it was one of the best I'd. seen in a while. Thanks, man. Yeah, it. was cool to Yeah. The first one we were. thinking about, we're like, should we. just start the joke? And then like the. first thing is I think I go uh you guys. want to hear my favorite New York joke. And we could have just cut that line, but there was part of me that went like. if I'm just hanging out with friends and. I go, "Yo, I got a good joke. You guys I. my friends or anybody else in that group. will go, yeah, I like hearing a good.

joke. Like this is why I'm tuning into a. special." Like sometimes I feel like the. first joke you tell on stage is the most. inauthentic because it's like, hey, we're going to do this thing where I. talk and you guys just listen and once. we get into it, it will all make sense. But the first the first 30 seconds or a. minute of it is inauthentic in a way. unless I honestly tell you, hey, you. guys ready? Yeah. I'm going to tell you. a joke. Does that make sense why I'm trying to. communicate? I've never thought about. that before. Yeah. There's this kind of.

moment where. Everybody pretends like they don't know. you're about to tell like they kind of. like there's this weird moment in the. beginning. We have to suspend disbelief. or whatever it is. What's he going to. do? We know what we're juggle or Yeah. or [ __ ] Yeah. remodel the building. like [ __ ] So, I don't know. I was. like, how do I just make it feel like. authentic or natural or whatever? And um. but yeah, but having my dad do it, the. intro is just the coolest [ __ ] thing. And uh how many takes do you have to do. with dementia? How many how what is.

that? that we did a I mean he was able. to he was able to knock it out but we. tell him the line right before every. single time. Yeah. You know give it up. for my son Andrew Schultz like and it's. he goes and says it and you could really. feel him. It was like really beautiful. I'll probably get emotional but he was. like really he really wanted to do it. you know and like he was he's been a. great father so it's like and uh he's. like trying to remember it you know and. like yeah it was just really he Yeah. Yeah. It was cool. That's awesome man. It makes me sad. Kind of. Not sad, but.

it may seem. No, it's beautiful. Yeah. It's something that's real. It's Yeah, it's beautiful. Give it up for my son. Yes. You know what I mean? Oh, dude. Right when I saw that cuz I remember. seeing the video that you shared about. him when you were going to play Madison. Square Garden. Yeah. And it was like. that was like something that everybody. could relate to. And yeah, when I saw. that it was like cuz Yeah. I I don't. know. He was he was and I keep saying. was which is [ __ ] up, but like he had. a he had a really shitty dad that like. wasn't there for him at all. And uh he. didn't have me until like late and but.

he like he never said this but like he. made a decision that he was not going to. let that happen again. And he was just. like he was just there for everything. Like every I don't know what it's like. to not have a dad there for everything. Wow. Which is an amazing privilege, don't get me wrong, but like it was just. so important to him to like let's go. throw a base, let's play some. basketball, like whatever you want. I. need help with homework. Like whatever. it is. And. um and I you know he has his dimension. I feel like every time I see him I just.

like I I just hope he knows that he was. incredible and like it's I that I'm. nowhere close to where I am without. that, right? Like all my confidence. comes from him. Wow. You know like every. bit of like self-belief like anything is. just there's this guy who's believed in. Is there a part of you like so as. dementia some I guess someone's like so. who someone is starts to kind of. disappear a little bit. Yeah. Is that a. fair way to say it or not? I would say. like your short-term memory goes away. So, I guess memory is broken up into.

long-term memory and short-term. And for. someone to get into longterm, it just. needs to be repeated. So, he has his. long-term memory. He like knows the map. of New York. He can like go around the. city, but he might forget like what he's. going to do, right? But he knows how to. get home. Yeah. But if we took him to. Florida, he wouldn't really know how to. get around, right? And then short term. it's like he doesn't really know, you. know, he'll have a conversation with you. and then he'll kind of forget. He'll. bring it back up. He has like a few. things that he'll like talk about. But. um I will say that. like you know the concern is when this.

happens is that like something. underneath is is bitter and angry and. like he just becomes this like resentful. human being. But he's pure, man. Like. he's just a pure like loving good soul. So he gets to find out every time I see. him that he has a granddaughter. Yeah. And like that's pretty awesome. Like you. know like like so there is a like if. there's a little positive perspective. that you all you can do is change. perspective on [ __ ] So like I can tell. him every single time it's like yeah I. got a door. He's like what? Oh my god.

What's that like? You know and like so. that's cool to tell him. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be super cool. Yeah it Is. there is there any fear that like as a. part of him like that the part of him. inside that will will forget that you. care about him? Is that is that like a. does that make any sense kind of? I I my. the fear is that I haven't communicated. to him enough enough how incredible a. job he did and I don't even know if. that's important to him right for you to. know it. Yeah. Like it's important to me. that he knows Yeah. that he's the goat.

and like he might not know that like. he's and it's so interesting. like Yeah. Like it's uh Yeah. It's just. so Yeah. Yeah. It's like you just want. them to know but but then I realize now. after having a kid like before I had a. kid I thought he was doing everything. just for me. Like he was he was doing. things that he might not actually want. to do but he's like I'm going to be. there for my kid. And now that I have a. kid, you get so much joy. Oh, you.

realize, oh, he was, bro, it's it's this. beautiful relationship where like you. can selfishly be a good dad. Like taking. my kid to the Museum of Natural History. the other day was more fun for me than. her. Yeah. Watching her look at a woolly. mammoth, you know, like and just have. her [ __ ] mind blown, you know? She. just she's looking at this. She's. looking back at me. She's like, "What. the [ __ ] is this?" Like, and it was just. and I'm like, "We got to go to the. museum every week." Like, whatever. There is this beautiful where where like. your selfishness benefits your kid if.

maybe if you have a healthy. relationship. I know there is like. unhealthy [ __ ] there too. But I think I. see what you're saying. So then it's. like now it's like there's no way he. couldn't ever know how much I care about. him because it almost doesn't even. matter cuz he cares about me so much as. a dad. You care about your kids so much. that as long as they're okay that's then. everything else is it you would hope. Like is that kind of what you're saying. a little bit? Yeah, you would hope. I. mean I mean again right I know there's a. lot of instances it's not the case. Yeah. But I I mean yeah I would just. Yeah. I would hope I would I hope that's.

the case. Like he battled with. depression a lot you know like my my. family's got a lot of mental illness in. it. Right. Oh yeah. So like uh so he. battled with depression a lot. And um so. it's just you know like you don't know. what to do when you're a kid about that. Like I used to take him to the comedy. seller before I ever did comedy. I was. like I thought that like if you laugh. you're not depressed. Like that's how I. thought it worked. So I'd take my. depressed ass dad to the comedy seller. Little did I know he's just listening to. depressed comedians. He's probably. getting more depressed. like he's he's struggling with his life.

He got to listen he got to listen to. these sad ass comedians on stage talking. about how shitty their lives are. He's. like this kid is going to kill me. But hey, if it makes his son happy, he's. thinking, he's doing it for me. He's. doing it for me. Damn near almost killed. himself. Have to comedian. You're doing. it for him and he's doing it for you. That's [ __ ] hilarious, dude. Yes. He's like, God, he's [ __ ] sitting. there. He's [ __ ] just rubbing.

drinking a Poland spring looking for the. vein. So, but yeah, it's just dude, what a. fascinating thing that he's doing it. that that what a what a unique way to. think of a crossroads of a father and. son that he's doing it for me and I'm. doing it for him. That's kind of. fascinating. You don't know like you. just don't know how it works when you're. when you're younger. Like I you don't. even know like the effects of depression. or these types of things, you know? Especially in his in his era, like 20. years ago, he had no idea. Even 30 years.

ago, he had no idea. He was just like, "Oh, Rodney, he likes to [ __ ] sit in. the car by himself." My dad would go sit. in the car by himself for a couple. hours. I love it. I love it. And my mom, well, if you get out of your [ __ ] car. like he wants to be out there sitting. out there by himself. The men in our. town used to park their trucks behind. the Wind Dixie and cry back there. sometimes. Yeah. And you'd see him just. [ __ ] you know, you'd see a guy open. his car doors to let a bunch of tears. fall out and then close it back. Like it.

was [ __ ] there. Yo, there is bravery. to that though. That that's the thing. that like I think we look back at that. generation who was really trying to. figure out how to deal with their mental. health and they stiff upper lipped it. And I think a lot of times we go, "Oh, they just ignored the problems." It's. like, "No, no, you can't ignore. depression. It's not something you could. ignore." You know what I mean? It's. there. And what they did is they said, "You know what? I'm going to go to my. [ __ ] car and I'm going to cry and I'm. going to get back and I'm going to be a. dad. and I'm going to be a husband and.

I'm going to take care of his family and. it's like and I'm going get my [ __ ]. son a Pistons jersey. Exactly. Exactly. And you're not even a Pistons fan. Like. that's depressing, too. You You wanted. so badly for this kid to be a Knicks. fan. This [ __ ] likes the team. lame beard jersey. Yeah. Yeah. It's. I'm glad you're getting to have all. that, dude. That's super cool. Yeah, it. is. It is really cool, man. It was. really cool. You know, we read for uh.

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uh I call and I you know and she knows. I'm calling to see Shiloh, right? And uh. I once I called my wife and then she was. coming back from like a workout class or. something and uh she was like, "Oh, I'm. not home yet. Uh so I'm not with. Shiloh." And my heart sunk cuz I was. like, "Oh, fuck." Like, "You don't even. think I call for you anymore." So, in my. effort, you know, to just like connect. with my daughter in every possible way I. can, I am forgetting about my connecting. with my wife sometimes. And your wife.

doesn't want to be angry at you for that. because she's like, "Thank God I have a. dad who's so committed and just in love. with their kid, but you can't forget. about them, right?" So, it's like this. constant adjustment. You go, "Okay, all. right. I got to put like, "Hey, uh, Shiloh, is your mom home?" That kind of. thing. Yeah. I gotta call Shiloh. Yeah. I I gotta I gotta go on the nanet. Yeah. I gotta call I got two phones. Yeah. You. got some Kevin Gates in the freaking. when they're nursing, dude. And you're. the most interesting man in America. You. spin Kevin Gates. Shout out the little.

phone. She's like, "Hey, mom's ready. Oh, you don't want to talk to me?". She g me. attitude. Now you can't win. You just. want to talk to this old [ __ ]. So yeah, you got to do that, man. Oh, damn, dude. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's wild. Wow, dude. What a neat. journey. And I was just impressing your. special like you're just going it's. like, you know, when I first watched you. were such a powerhouse. I remember the. first time I ever saw you at the Black.

Baby or what's it called? The one that's. next door to the comedy store. Uh Fat. Black Pussycat. Fat Black Pussycat. Right. And uh Village Underground, maybe. Maybe. Maybe that one. Yeah, it. was one that kind of has the tears in it. a little bit. Yeah. Village Underground. Yeah. Yeah. But dude, I was like I had. never seen I was like, "Oh my god." And. I had to go up after you, dude. And it. was so [ __ ] scary. And I was like. just I'm sure you killed that [ __ ] I. did. Okay. But dude, then this is so And. that was great. I mean, but that was. just like I mean that was probably 10. years ago, too. But then um yeah, this. was just so like taking me through this. story and the journey and it was um I.

don't know. It was cool to see. It felt. like grown up a little bit. Yeah. It's. just different. Like I never been. personal in my in my comedy. I didn't. even think my life was interesting. So I. was like, yeah, I was like I thought my. opinions on [ __ ] were more interesting. than my life. So I was like I'm not I. don't need to tell you about what's. going on in my life. And then um. and then this thing happened where you. know we couldn't get pregnant and it was. because of me. My sperm sucked. No way. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So my sperm. What happened? So you taking I'm the. face of shitty sperm, bro. Oh.

damn, dude. You felt bad for a second. You're like hold on. I think. Yeah. Well, it's just crazy cuz you have that. like spice trader energy. You think you. know? Yo, you want to know some crazy. [ __ ] My boy is a spice trader. This guy. I play paddle with. All right. This my. boy, we call him Spice Man. We legit. thought he was a drug dealer for so long. cuz he says like, "I'm a spice trader.". Like it he makes little jokes about it. that he's not joking. He'll show up late. to a game and he'll be like, "Man, sesame was down crazy today. I couldn't.

find a place to store it." Damn, boy. And then he'll say coriander options. Yes. It's literally like a stock market. Like he's back and forth from India. So. we're like there's no way this is his. real life. Like he sells fentinol or. cocaine or some [ __ ] right? And he's. just saying it's turmeric, right? So but. but turns out this [ __ ] is a. legit. 2025 spice trader. This is like the. oldest job ever. We ride here. Yeah, dude. That's it, bro.

We ain't going anywhere. You're from the past, baby. How crazy is that? Shout out to Pete, man. Spicy pee. We call Spicy P. Yeah, dude. Spicy pee. That's great. That' be. a dope ass job. Just hitting the. streets. You What you want? You got some. [ __ ] He'll just hit me with random. spice facts. Thyme, cumin. Yeah. He's He. was like, "Bro, you can't store the. cumin with the turmeric, right? Because. one goes old." And I'm like, "Oh, yeah, of course, bro. That's a huge That. storing [ __ ] is crazy out there, you. know." Yeah. 10 our fathers right now,

dude. That's crazy. 10 or five. You. can't be doing that. Yeah. What is that? That's like you confess it in a. confessional. You get a punishment like. you do those punishments or whatever. Um, what? Oh, dude, you did the. wrestling thing. Was that interesting? Oh, that was so cool, man. It was cool. You did a good job. Thanks, bro. It. looked uh It looked Was it scare? I. thought you were going to get slammed. Yeah, like Yeah. Was that an option? He. was about to uh I didn't even know it. was going to happen. You didn't? No, I. didn't know anything was going to. happen. I'm just there hanging out. Then. Logan starts to, you know, get me to try.

to lie in front of all my people in. Madison Square Garden. I want to see. That's why. [Applause]. Let's. [Applause]. [Music]. go. I mean, doesn't look like I'm. prepared for that. And his What's his finishing move? The. tax evasion. [Laughter]. Yeah, that's the next move. We got to.

move to Puerto Rico. The Puerto Rican. W9. That's his [ __ ] finishing move. Oh my god, dude. Does he sling? Maybe I. didn't see this. No, Styles come in. Thank god AJ Styles comes in to save my. ass. I need to come in a couple seconds. I'd be toast in front of my wife. Did. part of you want a little more smoke. after that? Like, was there a little bit. inside you that's like, I need justice, bro? Yeah, I need justice. You can't. come do that [ __ ] to me in in Madison. Square Garden, my home. Talk crazy to. me, you know? I need I need some I need.

some paper, bro. I need my get back. You. know who Aaron the plumber is? Aaron the. plumber? I think we had him on the. podcast, actually. Did you have Aaron on. the pod? I think so. Like 20 years ago. or like four uh like Yeah, like three. years ago, I think. No, no, no. This is. a different Aaron the plumber. We had. Joe the plumber. Joe the plumber. You. need You need Aaron on Aaron the. plumber. Bro, this guy's an absolute. baby in one of the pipes. Joe found an offspring. Wow. In one of. the pipes. What is that? That's horrible. time to say that. No, that's a that's a. Patrice joke. He said, "I jerk off so.

much in the shower. I'm surprised the. drain ain't pregnant." Oh, Joe is like, "It. was like I think I'm working at your. place.". Uh, no. Who's Aaron the plumber? Oh, dude. This guy's cool guy. Oh my god. He's just He was on this Zeus Network. show. Do you know what the Zeus Network. is? Uh-uh. Is it like uh that stars or. whatever? Like ghost book phantom. whatever seven or whatever. This is more. more ratchet bro. But but Aaron the. plumber you're not qualified. This guy.

is a certified hilarious dude. He was an. actual certified plumber but he's. hilarious on this dating show and uh he. would just, you know, he would get in a. fight with anybody who pop [ __ ] He's. like, "All right, let's go. We we we. fight right now." But he's also. hysterical and um so yeah, he's just an. internet sensation. Love this guy. Dang. Yeah. I haven't seen him. I got to check. him out. Who did I see recently? Guno. Lavish. Have you seen him? No. Who's. that? Young kid. He like uh he makes me. laugh. Huh? He's out of Mississippi,

man. Guno Lavish. You see the text went. out of him. Just you just go to shorts. right. there. Just start it over. Then. everything going to be okay. It will be. okay if you just stay strong. Stay strong for a. [ __ ] You wondering everything gonna be. okay. It will be okay if you just stay. strong. Okay, give me one more. Give me a Oh, stop being humble. FN over there. Try.

that one. You out here being humble when everybody. popping their [ __ ] It's time for you to. start popping your [ __ ]. then. Stop being humble for a [ __ ]. You out here being humble when everybody. popping that [ __ ] It's time for you to. start popping your [ __ ]. He just makes me laugh, man. He's out of. Mississippi, man. I just like his thing. He's just somebody I started watching.

You know, there's like people you see. and they come up and then once you watch. him a couple times and you keep having. to watch them, you know. Obsessed with. it. It's crazy. I'm obsessed with. Temptation Island Spain. Really? Yeah. I. could see that. Yeah, it's crazy. This. this is the craziest reality show I've. ever seen in my entire life. This guy. Mononttoya, have you not heard of the. Mononttoya guy? Oh my god, it's inc. So, basically, Temptation Island, the idea. is you and your girlfriend go to this. island and you split up and then they. send people to try to [ __ ] you and try. to [ __ ] your girlfriend to see if you'll.

cheat. And where are the people from? The mainland or whatever. I think you're. all from they're all from Spain pretty. much. So, some of them may be from other. Spanish speaking countries, but. everybody speaks Spanish. So this one. couple, she that girl right there, Anita, Anita gets just banged out, I. think five days in by this other dude, and he's got a watch. So this this. watch, that's part of the show, bro. You. So they just cucking my man Mononttoya. But Mononttoya is so charming that that. you actually don't look at him like a. cuck. You're like, "Oh, this is He's. like a flamco singer. He's the man." So.

uh he gets really emotional about. watching the guy just beat cheeks on his. girl. Oh, yeah. And this seems like. modern day Shakespeare almost, you know? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm talking about? Kind. of. Yeah. There's very much a thing. where like Yeah. Yeah. It's a fellow. really like Yeah. When the like the. figure would be like would open up a. portal in your head where you thought. this your wife was cheating and you. would take your own life or something. Wow. So there it is. So like he's got to. watch this security cam footage and you. could like hear like pelvis hit cheeks. No. Like this.

Yeah. It's brutal, but it's also. fantastic TV. God, I've never seen that. It's amazing. Like, and I haven't. watched the whole episode. I just watch. like whatever highlights get clipped and. put on like Tik Tok or Instagram. I. think that's how I consume everything. But I Yeah, everything I possibly can, I. consume. Yeah. Well, it's it's funny. because you start to want to have like. an information diet. So, there's things. that you can talk about with different. guests or whatever. That's what I heard. Mr. Beast say. Like, he hires people to. have an information diet for him. So, they all absorb stuff, then they filter.

it down, and then he gets like the stuff. from them that's like fine-tuned to. exactly what he would want to know the. most. Oh, wow. Oh, and that's crazy. So, he has like a human version of Chad GPT. Yeah. So, he has intelligence. intelligence. Yeah. Like real int like. an algorithm that's Yeah. He's like a. human kind of algorithm, you know, sort. of, I guess. So, he's outsourcing his. like interests. How do you run it back against those. Paul guys? I wonder how do I run it back. against Logan or Jake as well? Get Jake.

involved as well. Dude, I would. [ __ ] if I saw those people in my. dreams, I would beat the [ __ ] out of. them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good. caveat right there. That's a very good. caveat. No, Logan needs to get it back. Logan needs to get Logan needs to get. some get back. That's that's the. reality. You can't come into my place. and do that, obviously. But um you know, Jake, I don't even know if Jake's going. to be involved in in wrestling. You. know, he's doing his he's doing his. boxing thing. Yeah. But um but let's see. what happens. I don't know. You never. know. You never know with these things.

Yeah. What about you? You going to get. involved in some wrestling? I don't. know, dude. I thought about re trying to. wrestle one of those guys. I would have. to really stretch and focus on fitness. Yep. Yeah. 100%. I have to really. stretch and focus on it. Or you could. just get dragged through the ring like I. did. and then not work at fitness at all. You. know, you know the craziest part of that. scene. You didn't even see the end of. it. I got dragged over the banister, ragd doll on the ground, rolled into the. ring, bent over, and put into a suplex.

this other dude AJ saves me after Logan. leaves. I jumped on the top. rope. You like I did something. I think. I'm the first person in history to just. get my ass kicked and still go on the. top rope and celebrate. But it's really. goes back to exactly what we were saying. earlier. If all people see is that clip. of you on the top rope, they're like, "This guy won." So I'm like, "I might. never do this again. When am I going to. knock you in the top rope? Come on. I. got to tell my daughter something.". That's classic, man. Yeah. Um, have you. thought about o over the years of moving.

out of uh New York? I know you was. talking about the taxes and stuff in. there and Yeah. I don't know. It's. pricey. Have you ever thought about. going down to Austin? Do you ever think. about that? Not living there? No. No. I. mean, like, look, it's it's it's [ __ ]. incredible what Joe's done down there. Like, it's incredible. It's kind of. crazy that it almost feels sometimes. like the like another sent it definitely. feels like another new center of comedy, which they didn't have 5 years ago. can't believe I'm going to say what I'm. saying right now. Cuz obviously, you. know, New York guys, we're incredibly. biased about standup. We're like, "The.

best standups are in New York and this. is where you come. You got to make your. bones. This is what you got to do." And. then the idea was, "Okay, but if you. want to become like famous, you can go. to LA because that's where the industry. is. Somebody's going to pop into the. comedy store. They're going to see you. You'll be famous." That's at least like. the hope or the dreams or whatever, right? But um as of right now, if you're. a young comic, right? What is your. pathway to success in LA? If you're a. young comic, what's your pathway to. success in LA? Perception doesn't mean. that it can't happen. But like in LA or. New York, like what shows can you get on.

that eventually you become famous? Because I know if I'm a young comic, if. I can manage to get on Kill Tony and. become a regular, I'm selling out. theaters around the country. These guys. are selling real tickets. If I get into. Joe's World and I'm able to go on the. podcast a bunch and maybe even go on the. road, like I'm getting a career. or I. mean if to me it's like we need to build. start building some infrastructure in. New York so these guys feel like there's. a pathway to selling tickets and that's. not just New York that's LA too those. days of just like getting a role in a. movie and then you sell tickets are done.

you doing a a TV show oneoff and then. you sell that you don't just sell. tickets you need to be like ingratiating. yourself to the people through standup. comedy if you want to sell standup. comedy tickets so I don't blame I don't. begrudge any comic who's like I want to. go move to Austin because I feel like. that's where the thing is happening. Especially if you just move to New York. or LA to make it. I'm from New York. Like born and raised in New York. So. like moving to another city is like. leaving my whole family, my friend.

group. You're not in your world. Oh, there you go. That's what I was. thinking. I guess maybe. Oh my god. I do. kind of look like that [ __ ]. Diego Pñena. What's his name, man? Diego. Garcia. He looks ugly next to Christian. Bale, bro. And he's not even that ugly, bro. I'm saying he looks like me, so I. can't be insulting him that much. But. Christian Bale is one [ __ ] handsome. guy. Well, then imagine as safe as. another even did he AI my face onto. that? I did. This is face wipe. God. damn, bro. So that look ugly next to.

Christian. Bale. That [ __ ] is handsome. Look at Bruce Wayne right there, dude. God. Nah, he's a stud. H, he's a stud. Yeah. And I'm worse looking than you. So. the tough part is it only goes another. step downhill. Yo, how [ __ ] up is. that? Me insulting him before I knew it. was me. Like ain't that that's insanity. right there. Like I mean it's the. Where's my self-esteem at? Don't come here for it. I don't know.

I've built this railroad on low. self-esteem, dude. Have you ever heard. of the low self-esteem engine? No. That's the only thing that's run on. these tracks for years, dude. I mean, we're picking up we're picking up steam, but it's been slow. Oh god. What are we. talking about, though? Oh, there's the. the scene. So, it's just like I imagine. every Oh, yeah. The scene every I mean, think about like obviously we're in. different positions, right? Like we're. we're in a different part of our career. where we have we can we're not coming.

out. It's not the beginning of our. career. Exactly. So, but if you were. young and you're like, "My pathway to. success, like what if you go to LA, what. do you what shows do you get on to. eventually make it?" Like, what is your. Right. Well, there's a couple things. One, you can get a lot of there's a lot. of in like um influencers and stuff out. here. So, there's a lot of like uh. social media influencers. That stuff is. real out here. There's movie stars that. live out here and there's television. shows, but I don't know if a lot of. stuff still shoots in LA, which is kind. of crazy. Like um even whenever we shot. this little movie with Spade there,

we're like um they're like, "Thank you.". People were like, "Thank you guys so. much here. We haven't had work in. months." And I'm like, "What do you. mean?" Cuz I don't know who shoots what, you know? They're like, "Yeah." I'm. like, "In Hollywood, you haven't had. work in months." And yeah, I guess. there's just nothing shooting here. Which seems crazy that you would build. an industry where then nothing even. shoots within it, you know? Like at a. certain point you can't cut every corner. like okay we're going to shoot out of. state to get a tax break and then but.

the tax incentives are really big. You. can shoot up in Canada. You can shoot up. in over in Atlanta. Like the tax. incentives are huge to go shoot in these. places. The one in California match. them. It seems like I think like like. it's just like we were saying like. politics is always down river from from. culture. So yeah, they're going to have. to learn the hard way. They're gonna. have to see the industry actually start. to be negatively impacted like for a. while and then they're gonna have to. vote out whoever is in power with that.

kind of influence. But LA thrives on. Hollywood. Like there isn't LA without. Hollywood. Like that that's the. industry. That's true. I guess then it's. kind of like Barcelona or something in a. way. You know, some cool museums and. it's beautiful. I we don't even know you. guys have museums out here. I'll be. honest with you. Like somebody told me. that they're like, "Oh yeah, we were. spending some time in museums." I was. like, "You got museums out here?" Like I. thought you had that observatory [ __ ]. that's up on the hill and that's it. Yeah. We don't know that you have like. the theater like do you have plays that. come out in LA? I have no idea. Like can.

you watch Hamilton in LA ever? I don't. know. It's a good question. Well, we. don't really have that that district. like the theater district that New York. has. I mean Danny McBride was saying. this the other He goes, "You know, I've. always been kind of amazed that LA. doesn't uh pro like historicize itself. better as a structure." He's like, "When. you go down the street here, you should. be every other building should be this. is where um this was filmed. This is. this is where Sydney Portier us lived. the first three years that he lived here.

in this apartment like you know like and. this these buildings we've kept them. because they're and some of it is still. the same because you know you don't have. as much wear and tear from the elements. here. Um outside of like the fire is. reasonable, but you don't have just like. the constant salt salt in the air like. you do in a lot of places. But um but. overall he's like, "Yeah, I'm just kind. of amazed that you don't go down the. street and every other building is. historical for some reason." Bro, I. think that's a fantastic point because. that is the coolest. thing about LA Hollywood is like old.

Hollywood culture, right? Like there's. that hotel, the Sunset Tower or. whatever. And like it has this cool. restaurant that feels like old. Hollywood. Oh yeah, it's cool in there. It's some fancy bougie [ __ ] but it. still feels like Oh, I can imagine. directors in like the 60s. Yeah. What do. you say? Huh? You know what is that? Uh. what is that [ __ ] girl with this the. air blowing her dress up? Oh, Shirley. Temple or whatever. No, my bro. Marilyn Monroe. Sorry.

Well, yeah, exactly. I'd like to have. that stricken for the record. I'm. talking unbelievable. Well, dude, I'll. tell you something. the here's the the. number one place and I'm sorry who's the. girl where her dress was blown up surely. battle I don't fight LA I didn't think. he's right he's rightin's. innocent is innocent I didn't think if. they're blowing anybody's dress up it's. going to be a child obviously dude when. people come to visit me the one place. that I take them every time literally as.

a tour stop is a cemetery that's near my. apartment in Westwood that has Marilyn. Monroe's grave in it Hugh Hefner Errol. Flynn. Oh, wow. Uh uh Carol O' Conor. Um. the guy from um Bad Grandpa or whatever. Um uh. Math was in there. It's just like you. just show them like this, you know, that's kind of the neatest thing. I. think I think that's I think it's a. great point because there is cool. historical [ __ ] about LA, but you got to.

embrace it and then protect it. And I. think that maybe it's just such a new. city they don't see the value in it. like we you and I are from very kind of. like old places in terms like of. American history, not world history, but. like there's a lot of history in I'm. going to give you Nor I know you're not. from New Orleans, but like just this. idea of Oh, yeah. There's like and and. it's important to us to maintain that. We actually like the way that the. buildings look. When a new fancy. building goes up in New York, there's. always this immediate rejection. We're. like, "Ah, these [ __ ] glass, there.

goes the neighborhood or whatever it. is." So we we we try to protect and I. feel like LA is so transient like. everybody that comes here is coming from. Maine or coming from you know Montana or. some [ __ ] like that to go make it. So. they don't really care that much about. the history. They're like what's going. on now, right? But the people from here. like Dove, like the people who actually. grew up here and like that is the. industry. Yeah, I would I would like to see that. protected. That's a great point. And. then there's another version of you. coming out here that's not like a TMZ. tour bus tour, whatever that stupid [ __ ].

is. Like this is the rocks house. It's. like, no, go see where [ __ ] Sydney. Podier lived or go see where these. historic actors like what's his face's. first apartment, Jack Nicholson's first. apartment. So cool if they had that and. still had under they had it like really. locked in. Dude, the guy the founder of. Canes, this guy Todd Graves, he still. has his college apartment that was right. next door to the uh first Canes that's. in Baton Rouge. And you go in there, dude, and it is crazy. It's like it's. from 30 years ago, you know, or 20 22.

years ago or something. It's just like. old TV. He's maintained everything. Maintain all sitting there. Pictures. from back then and [ __ ] His life got. busy and so he just wasn't there for. like eight years and then he came back. and it's just like magazines with like. Jordan and Shaq just [ __ ] He's a. beast that guy. Yeah, he stays so busy. He works really hard. I think he has a. little bit. He owns all of the Canes. still, right? This is not a franchise. restaurant. I think he owns It's kind of. It's unbelievably impressive. And maybe. because I'm from New York, we just got. one. There's one that just popped up in. these village. But like I I was talking.

to a buddy of mine who's actually like. one of his lawyers and he was kind of. explaining it to him. It's like this. guy's like a real ambitious like kind of. genius to put that together. It's it's. it's very hard to to not sell off your. company as it becomes successful to have. that vision. Like I don't know if you're. like this, but if I'm building something. that's successful and then somebody. offers me $300 million for it, I'm. like there's some people are crazy. enough to go, "No, this [ __ ] is really.

worth two billion." I'm like, "Two bill? What is $2 billion even?" Like what is. that money even? You know what I mean? There are people that say no to $1. billion cuz they know it could be worth. five. [ __ ] That's Isn't that crazy? Easy. What do you need that for? Yeah. Like you can tap out of whatever you're. doing. Maybe they really love what. they're doing. Maybe that's it. But then. you just sell it and get locked in as a. um consultant or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, you could. But maybe they would. hate that. Maybe like they're like, "It's my genius that drives this this.

this this this car." It's like that. rigamortis whatever the frank whoever. made Frankenstein or whatever the doctor. or whatever. He wanted to die with. Frankenstein. He's like, you know, I. think that's what happened. What. happened with Frankenstein? I [ __ ]. don't even know what happened. Actually, it was Dr. Frankenstein and then it was. the creature. Yeah. That's Isn't that. crazy that we think that Frankenstein is. the uh That's crazy. is the lifeless. animal, you know, but it was actually. the doctor. Imagine how he feels. He's like, "What.

do you Hey, my name's Rick, you know? It's like nobody. [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] Rick Hopkins, you. know? I had a [ __ ] bad uh bad frontal. lobe surgery. Give me some. Goddamn. That's so true. It still goes. back to you see a clip of something and. you just believe it. That's what you. believe. Just believe it. Yeah. That. motherfucker's name is not even Franken. Yo. Yo, it's called Creature, which is.

way more adept, right? Like that feels. like the name for it, but not. But at. least that's his name. God, dude. Yeah. Shout out Frankenstein. Yeah, dude. Um Oh, how's the Trump thing. going over in New York, dude? You know. what's so interesting is like uh it was. crazy how right after right after the. election was over, everybody's kind of. went on about regular life kind of. Bro, it's And like now I'm almost like. annoyed by like I thought we weren't. going to have to go through this again.

Like I don't know where how it is like. here where you're where you're living, but we're back to like the bipartisan. bickering, you know, like like this Doge. is a big deal, right? Even though. there's no American that wants like. waste, there's no American that wants. like government bloat. There's no. American that wants like inefficiency. I. don't think any of us are like voting. for those three things. So, this should. be like unilateral support. Like we. should all get behind it. And maybe the. way that they're doing I think Trump. even came out and be like, "Yo, we're.

gonna use a scalpel, not a hatchet.". Like I think we're being a little bit. too forceful with the firings or. whatever, but this is one of those. things where like it's so annoying. And. I think you can you can you can blame. Elon for this as well. Like on Twitter, he's a little bit antagonistic about. [ __ ] I noticed that recently some of. the stuff he says like, "Do you have to. say that?" Like right there. You're. you're in power now. Like I think you. have to have a little bit different. energy when you're in power. I think. when you're not in power, you're trying. to get to power. Maybe that antagonism. is is helpful, right? it can embolden. the base, but you're you're the leader.

now. Leaders don't need to poke a finger. and like twist a knife or whatever like. Well, I think what he's doing I I. believe that what Elon is doing is by. creating all that commotion on Twitter, it's only helping his own business, right? So, it creates now that. everybody's everybody wants to see what. he's going to say, but he's saying so. many things, it's hard to even juggle, but so many people are engaging and. interacting. I feel like it's probably. the number one news app. I don't know if. it's always been the number one news. app. Has to be. Um, it has to be. That's. why. Yeah. I mean, don't you learn. everything. He's stirring his own.

business. It's like, so the more he does. that, it just then it's more. impressions, the more ads that he can. sell, right? I don't know if that's. true, but but you're basically creating. a place for people to go consume content. in general. And if he's the biggest. creator on that platform, then it makes. sense that he continues to create. So, you're saying that he's not doing this. just to get out information, but he's. also doing this to like uplift the app. It's like a hype machine. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's true. But that's what the feeling. you get from it. I mean, at least. because otherwise it's kind of in some. of this shit's kind of insane. It's.

like, what is this? Like, how is he. doing all of these things? And if he's. not doing all these things because who. could have time to do all these things, then who is doing it? And it's kind of. it's kind of annoying because he's a. genius. You want him on your side. Like, I want the guy who makes the rockets on. America's side if we go to World War II, right? Like I think that's a pretty good. idea that we get the guy who's going to. send a ship to Mars on our side if we're. going to have like drone warfare. throughout the world. Like let's keep. him in our good graces. I do think and I.

I'm a little bit more optimistic about. this administration. That's what I've. realized with most people like sane. people is that if you don't if you. didn't vote for Trump but you're you're. not like a like a complete like lunatic. extremist on both sides. By the way, if. you're just kind of like a normal. regular guy, but you feel like you you. lean left a little bit more, you go you. just are pessimistic about the. administration. And if you lean maybe. right a little bit more, but you're not. some insane like right-wing quack, you're optimistic about the. administration. Yeah, we both kind of.

want the same thing. We want the best. thing for American people, right? We. might disagree about where we get there, but we do want the most opportunity, wealth, um ease of living for American. people. So when it comes to when it. comes to the administration, I'm like a. little bit more optimistic about like. I'm like, "Okay, let's just see how this. works." Right. That's how I feel. Give. him a give him a People are going, "Oh, he's doing all these tariffs." It's. like, "My man, I don't I'm not an. economist. I know you aren't an. economist." Yeah. I don't know if this.

is a negotiation. Like if you go to buy. a car and the car is like 100 grand and. and you go in, you go, "All right, I'm. going to offer 80 grand." Right. knowing. that they're going to settle around 90, right? The problem is when you do that, you do that in privacy with the car. dealer. Trump got to do it publicly. And. now he's got people in his own country. going, "How dare you offer 80? That's so. disrespectful." And he can't come out. and go, "Dumbass. We're going to settle. at 90. I just got to start at 80. So,

could you give me [ __ ] two weeks to. get Yeah. They don't give him any Nobody. gives him a beat to see what the. long-term plan is." Like if you want. manufacturing jobs back in America, then. you have to make it so that it makes. more sense for people to make cars in. America. That's just business. Like I. agree with you. I would I never was a. against Biden. I've never been against. anybody that's been office. I've always. just wanted the best. It's like I want. the best. I'm never going to depend on. the government for my life. Like I don't. wake up every day and see what the. [ __ ] government's doing. I get out of.

bed and I try and take care of myself or. you know, you know, take care of your. family like you're doing. It's like. that's probably what most people think. Yeah. Anybody that has time to argue. online all day is also insane, right? Like not saying that we don't all put. our beliefs out there sometimes, but I. hear what you're saying, but it's like, but you have to like that's one thing. somebody said the other night, oh, Trump. said it during that that whole like. state of the whatever the delegate. address. It was just it was like the. state of the two parties are addressing. with the if you got to watch the hour. and a half of that, I don't care what. side of the this [ __ ] was hilarious. It.

was like somebody who wrote like noises. off or something. It was just a. fascinating joint congressional. committee's address or whatever. Um. yeah, there was like [ __ ] they kept. cutting this white dude that was asleep. They threw Al Green out. People thought. he was Jimmy Snooker. They [ __ ] threw. him out, dude. They kept people like. Democrats only had their feelings on. little signs that said like not good or. gazun tight or whatever. I bumped into. Al Green at the Breakfast Club. he was. going on after me and someone's like, "Hey, he wants to Al Green wants to say.

hello." And I was like, "Yeah, sure. That that'd be cool." And this guy just. got chucked out of the [ __ ] Senate. That'd be whatever. And uh I went I go I. like his like handle or something like. that is like waiting there with like a. camera like tucked here for the. handshake picture and I was like, "Did I. just get set up in a photo op to make me. look sympathetic to what hap like" Like. I'm like, "What exactly is going on?". That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that. that's also scary when everybody has. cameras everywhere now. Yeah. Yeah. A. lot of people thought that was Jimmy. Sucka, which makes total sense as well.

Yeah. I think it still think it was. What a body, huh? Let's get it on. Um, was that that was Al Green? Let's. get it on. Let's get it on. Yeah, I. think so. But yeah, so it's a tricky. Yeah, it's a tricky It's a tricky time. now politically, but I just still like. Yeah, you kind of hope like hopefully. there's some long-term strategy here. It's like because if you just look at. the little bits, it's kind of [ __ ]. scary. Also, if the if and I'm not. trying to just like bag on the last.

administration, but like if people are. uncomfortable and the last. administration was running on this. platform of, hey, we're going to keep. doing the same thing that we've been. doing. That was a bad plan. You can't. really blame Americans for going, well, that's not working for me right now. I. got to try something different. Yeah. And then giving the new thing a little. bit of leeway. It's not like, again, I. might be more optimistic and if it goes. bad, I will be the first person to. criticize it, right? I have no problem. criticizing whoever's in power, okay?

This is the easiest thing in the [ __ ]. world for me. But I I am hoping I'm at. least going to give a little bit of. grace and hoping that this is going to. work out for all of us. And I'm going to. give it more than a [ __ ] few months. I'm going to give it a little bit to see. where it goes. And if it does go, I'm. not going to be the guy to go, "Told you. so, you [ __ ] idiot." Like, cuz that's. not the joy that it brings me. The joy. that brings me is like, "Hey, [ __ ]. We're we're actually making some cool. changes, right? America's going to be. doing better. We got opportunity to, you. know, start here and get up here. Imagine if you brought some industries. back where people have pride in their. homes and in their towns. Dude, I'll.

tell you this. We've gone on this tour. I've been on, we've gone to probably. 200, the top 200 cities so far size-wise, right? We've gone [ __ ] everywhere. And a lot of the places, man, it's the. same. It's like there's no there's not a. lot of businesses there. There's some. cities that have kind of changed and had. some turnaround and it's been uplifting, but there's been a lot of places that it. hasn't, you know, and um and it's sad. It's like, oh, all this place needs is. one good like influx of uh of people and.

a purpose. You know, when people have. jobs, they have purpose. Yeah. And so, it's like I'm just gonna I'm for surely. going to stay hopeful. I hope that if if. if there's some tariff stuff and then we. start making our own [ __ ] cars here. Dude, there's a guy who just made a. show. I a t um a t-shirt. I think it's. called American Giant. Can you look that. up? There's a guy. He wanted to make. find a t-shirt that was made in America. American Giant clothing. He couldn't even get a t-shirt that was.

completely made here. He couldn't get a. He couldn't get a whatever this is. called, a template or a blank in. America. He couldn't They didn't have. it, right? They didn't. We don't make a. [ __ ] t-shirt in this company, right? Country. Yeah. So, uh, don't they make. Teslas here? Am I? So, Teslas are an. Americanmade car. So, like bare minimum. and like I'm not trying to knock any of. the American, you know, other American. cars, right? Like, but I don't think. Ford is entirely made here, right? I.

might be wrong. I don't think they are. You drive forward, somebody said to me. I'm like, that's when I. knew like, hold on. How's this guy know. how to pronounce it? Swedish guy. But uh that's a great question. Let's. look that up. Yeah. What cars are made. here? Or what percentage of Teslas are. made in America? What percentage of. Fords are made in America? That's a. great question, man. And I and I guess. that you know, you could be putting. together the full car here, but maybe. there's like certain factories that. doing other stuff. And I'm okay with. that. Like I'm I'm okay with outsourcing. to different countries. I think it gives. them opportunities as well. That's a.

cool thing. Yeah, but Tesla claims that. nearly. 100% of the vehicles it sells in the. United States are manufactured. domestically, exceeding the industry. average of 52%. Wow. Now, that doesn't. mean they don't make cars in other. countries as well, right? But the ones. that are sold here made here regardless. Okay, if we want to attack in a car company, right? And again, I don't know if. they're attacking Tesla because they. don't like the product. They're. attacking Tesla because they don't like. the CEO of the company. And that is the.

risk of being a celebrity CEO. By the. way, there's like CEOs of and you talk. about this all the time, but like some. of these like pharmaceutical companies, we don't know who the [ __ ] they are, right? And there's a reason cuz if we. did, people would them. Something could. happen. Something could happen. We don't. know. Something could happen. Like. somebody could throw them a surprise. party. Bro, if you if you have a billion. dollar business and nobody knows who you. are, you doing some [ __ ] up [ __ ] right. now. You're doing some [ __ ] [ __ ] man. Right. Some [ __ ] [ __ ] homie. Yeah. So,

for real. So, so this is like a kind of. shitty situation where like, yes, I. understand that he's antagonizing. people. He's like rubbing people the. wrong way. You don't like the guy. You. don't like the beliefs. You don't like. what he's doing. And there are things to. criticize. I'm not saying there aren't. things to criticize. Like, everybody is. nobody's above criticism. But to punish that car company that is. 100% made in America, made by people. living in America, Americans rely on. those jobs. Like maybe we criticize. another thing, right? Like what is your goal that we.

shut down those factories and those. Americans lose those jobs? That makes. you feel better about your gripe with. Elon. That's the thing. Some people they. they just want to win an argument. It. feels like, you know, there's people. that rely on those [ __ ] jobs. Oh, for. sure. They got kids, bro. Oh yeah. Oh. dude, there's no doubt about it. But. here's one thing that I think is sad. about the about Doge is that the fact. that we have to out we now have to have. someone audit our own government. Our. government is supposed to be the thing. that we can trust. Like it will never. end now. And people are like why is this.

guy be having a team that audits? Like I. agree, but I'll let anybody audit. If if. we bring on another company, they audit. and they find I give them 10% of the. bloat that they find. If they you know. what I'm saying? the simple fact that we. now have to audit our own government. Yeah. I mean, I just, you know, I don't. People, I think, will gravitate towards. corruption naturally and I think it's. something you constantly have to fight. every single second. Yeah, you. definitely have to. You said something. interesting though, like this idea like. you wake up every morning, you're like, I don't expect the government to do. something for me. I think that's a a.

more like southern and frontier belief. You know, I think that like when you. grow up in in like New York, there is. this relationship with the government. where like if the roads are [ __ ] up, you start going, "Yo, why are the roads. [ __ ] up? Like we're spending all this. money in taxes or like the government, you're supposed to do it. You're giving. me all these rules I got to live by, so. you might as well do some shit." But. that's interesting that you have this. perspective which is like, I don't. expect anything from you guys. And I. wonder if when they encroach on your.

freedoms, it's that much more annoying. because you're like, I don't rely on you. for anything and you're going to tell me. what to do. Whereas we might be more. accepting of of the laws and the. encroachment of freedoms because we are. more reliant on them for certain things. M so and and I wonder if that's why like. some of the co stuff was way easier to. accept in big cities cuz we're already. have this symbiotic relationship with. government whereas in place like Florida.

or even you know more other like. southern maybe I guess some red states. not all yeah a lot of rural areas in. more rural areas it's like yo listen. don't mess with me cuz I don't ask you. for [ __ ] right and now you're getting. into my house and telling me what to do. when I already don't ask you for. anything right we have one road. We keep. it clean. It's fine. Yeah. I drive a. truck so you don't have to pave it. Yeah. It's fine. That's it. Right. We're. doing Yeah. Yeah. That's a good It is. interesting how like different areas. could affect your perception and Yeah.

Like I think a lot of like one other. thing is I think a lot of people just. worry about our tradition starting to. disappear and I think that's where a lot. of push back comes from. What do you. mean by that? just like you know like. tearing down of statues and saying that. everything's racist and stuff and not. honoring our history whether it is. racist or not like not deny like you. know if you take it away completely in. three generations no you know this is. the tricky thing where it's like I. okay I I try to meet people at their. intentions because I often want people.

to judge me on my intentions when I say. some like crazy [ __ ] up joke that's. not even fully fleshed out on a podcast. and then I want people to Oh, he just. wanted it to be funny, not oh, this is. guy's an evil [ __ ] Right. So, when I. see people doing the taking like the. progressive measures that might feel. like they're going too far, I at least. have some empty. I go, all right, I know. what you're trying to do. You're trying. to make this world that we live in, this. country we live in, a more comfortable. place for everybody. And you're thinking. about these oppressed or ostracized.

groups. And you're like, how can they. not see certain imagery that might. remind them of these horrible things. that their ancestors went through? So. like I go, okay, I get that maybe you. have some really good intentions here. And then we can meet at at that where we. go, I get your good intentions. And then. then we start to have then let's have. the conversation of, okay, how much of. that are we going to remove before we. start removing like the history of our. country? And some of the history is ugly. and that's it's unfortunate, but it is. the history. like removing it doesn't.

remove the history, right? But at least. at least not looking at them like. they're [ __ ] that want to destroy. America. Maybe some of them are, but I. think some of them also just kind of. want to make life better for people. Yeah. I I don't think everybody's bad. I. think there are bad actors on both. sides, but I think there's some people. who like maybe they were bullied a lot. as a kid and they're like, man, I don't. want anybody to go through that [ __ ]. Like I Yeah, I don't I I want to look. out for some people and create some more. protections. And sometimes those. protections might go like a little bit. too far. And then sometimes instead of. creating protections, people will like.

hurt people hurt people. They'll do the. opposite. They'll be like, "Oh, all. white people are horrible." It's like, "Okay, okay, you you're going too far.". Yeah. You might have experienced some. really [ __ ] up people in your. childhood and maybe you have that way of. looking at it, but it's not going to. help if that's your way of communicating. with them. Yeah. Yeah. I think the truth. is usually kind of in the middle. I. think you're right. You know, and the. fact that Yeah. It's like it's it's so. funny. It's like you get so stuck in. your own perspective of what your own. perspective is. And you need to be in. your own perspective because it's a. survival thing too. It's like if I'm.

sitting here daydreaming or something. and I get attacked by a animal or. something and that's on me, right? But. it's like but to actually put yourself. in somebody else's shoes and think like. what it is what is it really like? Yeah. You know, or what is like going through. like certain classes or history class or. things like that? Like if you're. different ethnicity or different sex or. something, what's that [ __ ] really like? You know, they're supposed to have VR. goggles that were supposed to be able to. do that, you know. Yeah. We could just. see what it was like being Native. American back in the day. Yeah. Hey. Huh? Yeah. They're all Italians.

Look, but look, the goggles kind of like. they set it up to make it sound like who. really killed the Native American was. Italian? Chris Columbus. Look at these. guys. Hey, [ __ ] Red Horse. Get over. here. How many necklaces we going to wear, right? You called the night. How about some. blankets? Hey, but hey. Hey. Hey. That would be cool. though. Like, but you could set it to.

anyway, you know? Oh, that's cuz he was. Italian, right? Wasn't Columbus Italian? They said he was. Who the [ __ ] knows, dude? I'm sure he was probably Italian. via Israel according. to according to uh a lot of Reddit. feeds. So Twitter is just they just blame. everything on the Jews, bro. Like it's. not even [ __ ] that you didn't even. imagine. It's the Jews fault, right? But they got nothing to do with.

it. Assume they going to blame Christmas. on the Jews. Well, that was kind of. the Jews are impressed but also not cool. at the same time. Like, yo, what if. they're like, "Yo, can you blame some. good [ __ ] too? Like, we did some good. [ __ ] right? Like y'all like. Christianity? Like you like watching. Family Man, don't you? That's one of. your favorite Christmas movies, isn't. it? Huh? Gangs in New York. Who do you. think [ __ ] put that together? All. them Christmas carols. They're probably. written by Jews. A lot of them are, man.

See, that's so funny. Yeah. What are we. going to do? What? Um I'm trying to. think of what else is going on, dude. That I was thinking about. Um what's up. in your life, man? Everything's fine, man. I just been just just been working. a lot, you know? Like last year we. really focused on if we had some time. off to go and. um just work like go travel to a place. to get guests and stuff, you know. Yeah. So it was like a big focus last year to. do that. And uh Have you taken like a.

vacation? No, not in a while. I was. supposed to get one over the holidays. and it just didn't happen. Do you like. do you like taking time off? Does that. feed you at all? Yeah, I need it. I need. more of it. And do you enjoy it? Like is. your time off just hanging at a beach or. do you like going to like a city that. you're really interested in like. learning about the history? Like what is. what is your version of a It's just been. the beach really. I think I've been like. I think I just kind of got I just put so. much work on the calendar that I didn't. start to schedule. I would love to take. two weeks off and go to like a country. or something. That'd be awesome, you.

know? Yeah. So, but then I start to. think about that like, well, I should. probably get a girlfriend or like a. fiance first because if you go by your. who are you going to unless you get a. buddy to go with or something that could. be fun, but it's like two weeks. You. can't really go by yourself really, you. know? And so then it's like what are you. going to do exactly? I imagine you with. like a small Asian tour. guide and that's it. Just you guys. motorcycleycling around Vietnam or. Cambodia. Just say [ __ ] to him all the. time. That would be that would be ideal.

Yeah, but not traveling alone is cool, too. Cutting them little, feeding him a. little piece of yam or whatever. I mean, you don't have to feed them, you know, they might feed themselves out there. Uh, the first struggle Bar went through. the first struggle was finding all the. components, the cotton, the buttons, the. zippers, the rivets. Uh, once Bar did. all that, he end up with his first. product, a plain hooded sweatshirt. Um, we already know all this stuff. Um, I was looking at what some of the. price issues were and stuff that he. faced, but it was a nightmare for this. guy to do it and he couldn't get it done. at like, you know, it came down like $37.

or something, which is, you know, which. but to do it on a regular basis and then. Walmart um decided we're going to. support him. We're going to give him. like a big order. That's fire. So, that's kind of where he's at right now. And if you can make a big order, you can. obviously like reduce the pricing, right? Then you can go ahead to the. places say, "Look, now I'm going to. order this many. Can you give me a. better rate?" You know? So, can you get. the material from Does the material also. have to come from here? I imagine we. have to get all of our material from. other countries. That's a good question. Like, are we creating textiles here? It's a good question. It's crazy because.

you don't know that, you know, it's like. a lot of this stuff we don't even know. And then you look around and you're. like, but if you find out that we can't. even you can't even get a t-shirt here, then you're like, well, [ __ ] If we're. not even making one t-shirt, then what. are we making here? I mean, yeah, we're. completely reliant. It's it's a little. scary. I guess that's the thing. It. starts to get scary cuz Yeah. I mean cuz. t-shirts are the the least necessary. product that we are completely reliant. on other countries for. So if we're. relying on t-shirts, what else are we.

relying on? Are we relying on technology. in some ways? Like what are the things. that become uh like at risk topics for. us? Yeah. That we're relying on other. countries because it's nice to know that. you're not reliant or that the entire. world is relying on each other. And if. everybody's relying on each other, okay, then there's like a mutually assured. destruction, right? Maybe that's good. But, right, just tell us the truth. If. you we know everything, I would just. love it if like here's the the exact. facts. Yo, when do you think All right.

You know how like conspiracies are. incredibly popular right now. And like. now everybody kind of knows the. conspiracies. So, the that immediate hit. of of dopamine you get when you like. share like the real truth with somebody. who doesn't know it. And when they look. at you, they're like, "Oh my god, you're. so smart." or whatever. Yeah. Now that. everybody knows the. conspiracies, do you think that we start. the pendulum starts to shift back to. like kind of what really happened? Because the conspiracy is like the most.

ex exaggerated version of what happened. Yeah. And what really happened is. probably pretty boring. Like the truth. of most things is probably pretty. [ __ ] boring. Yeah, for sure. It's not. what the media has told us, that's for. certain. Those those are lies 100%. But. it's not what like the Reddit historians. have said. Yeah. And it's probably in. here and then we all go. All right. Yeah. Like that is I wonder. if like there's something like that even. to the Epstein list. Like everybody's.

waiting for this epsene list and they're. waiting for it to be like direct logs. where it's like Bill Gates paid for anal. from a 16-year-old at D like 430 or. whatever 4 and then it's like name. pictured [ __ ] whatever it is and then. every time they hand out like the binder. or whatever it is, nothing that crazy. comes out. Now don't get me wrong, I. believe he's like a prolific pedophile. He you m like if he's if he is still. alive, find him and [ __ ] kill him. the girl too. Awful. Anybody who's.

involved in it, defended it, anybody. who's on the [ __ ] flight logs, put. them in prison. Like, let's we need some. justice here. But have we created an. idea of what this is, which is so far. removed from what it actually is, right? And that's why they haven't really. they're like, "This is going to be so. upsetting. There's seven people in here. They're going to think they're going to. think we're liars anyway, right?" Like, cuz imagine they gave us list and there. was like there was like 25 people on it, right? We'd be like, "Man, you [ __ ]. pieces of [ __ ] lying to us again." Like,

the only thing we would believe if if. literally every single world leader went. in there, right? They Yeah. They This. list better be. So, that's why I think. they're still work they're probably. working with like top producers. Eli. Roth, like guys who really can put on a. good show. Todd Phillips, you know, until how do we sell this story? Until. he did Joker, too. Then he was on like. he's off. But yeah, I think Yeah. How do. we what do we This has This better be. good. Why don't we just get this is the. way I was thinking we we solve it. The. guy who gave who let uh Epstein manage.

his money is this guy named Les Wexner. or something like that. He's this guy. who started Victoria Secret. and like I don't even think Epstein went. to college or something. So like how the. [ __ ] do you end up managing this. billionaire's money? This guy's like 90. years old. Give him immunity. Just go. Yeah. This guy right here, Les Wexner. Okay. He's he's a billionaire. He's 87. years old. Just you just go, "Listen, you're about to [ __ ] die. Can you. just tell us what happened?" Right? Tell. us what happens. We'll give you.

immunity. You don't get to die a hero at. all. You're a piece of [ __ ] that. probably funded this whole [ __ ] thing. or connected different people to. different stuff. We don't know what the. [ __ ] you're actually doing. You're. involved, but you don't get to die a. Well, you're still a diabolical piece of. [ __ ] but maybe you do one good thing in. your life before you [ __ ] die, right? And then the American people get some. satisfaction. The victims get some. satisfaction, but you get to actually. know what's happening. Yeah. Because I. don't even know if we I don't I don't. know if we actually will get to know. what's happening unless somebody who was. involved says it specifically. Yeah. And.

I don't believe Gileain cuz I think her. pops was he was part of MSAD, right? Like so I don't believe anything she's. going to say. So yeah, nobody's going to. tell the truth, right? Like I'm just. amazed that that many people wanted to. be pedophiles or whatever. So here's the. thing. I don't know. ass part of me that. doesn't believe that. I'm like, "You're. telling me?" I don't think they wanted. to. I think that I think he was like, "Yo, I got some young [ __ ] on an. island. We're all going to fuck." But I. don't think that he said, "I have. underage women to incriminate you on an. island." Right? I think he's like, "Yo,

I got some 20-year-old [ __ ] Russian. [ __ ] They're on an island." And all. these dudes were like, "Oh, we going to. go party with Russian bitches?" Like, I. I wonder if it's as simple as like some. club promoter going, "I got a table full. of girls at TA tonight. You want to. party?" And people go, "Well, that. sounds like a great idea." Nobody's. IDing those girls, right? And they for. sure aren't ideing because why would. they go, "Yeah, this guy's going to make. me a pedophile this weekend." Yeah. Right. Like, so, and then maybe. afterwards they go, "By the way, that.

girl was this old." Yeah. So, I'm going. to need you on a certain day to do a. favor. That's how I would imagine it. would be most effective. And what if. some of the girls were not even underage. or anything? You don't even know if you. got if you you could have somebody say. that you're so scared you're already. like you there's some favor in the wind. That alone the mirage of that would. that's the biggest thing. You have no. [ __ ] idea. That's a great point too. They don't you're going to be so scared. like well first of all I don't want to. see I'm so bad at sex I don't want.

anybody to see a video of it. [ __ ] a. hooker on an island still is bad if. you're like a political figure that has. a family and you have children. Like you. could be it could be old. they could be. old enough and it's still like you don't. want that out because it ruins your. career. Yeah. So yeah, there are many. ways to to do it that Yeah. I mean it's. definitely and then it's like how do you. doctor all that up to present it to the. American because it's a [ __ ] you have. to find you have to serve a Mona Lisa to. the American people. There's because. there's no but then they're like we have. to make sure all these people that.

information that's released but maybe. some of that's true like you input. information it has a name in it that. you're not sure and then you get sued by. that person or you got to protect these. girls who are underage and they were. raped by these famous people and like. they have moved on with their lives. They got families. Do they want their. information out there in the world? Probably not. They're like I don't want. to relive that [ __ ] So redact me or. whatever that term is. Yeah. But yeah, I. just feel like we're at this point where. like if we're going through this phase. in America where we are we're in alltime. low trust in all of our institutions and.

what happens from here? There's two ways. we go. Talk talk to me. It gets better. somehow or or it starts to devolve even. more and crazier. See, it gets deeper. and deeper. It's so funny because yeah, I I've had both feelings. Yesterday I. had the feeling like, "Holy [ __ ]. dude. Nobody's going to know where to. trust anything anymore. It's going to. get really interesting. or you start being honest. Like that's. kind of that's that's why right or you. start being honest and and like yo we're.

Americans we can deal with [ __ ] like. we've dealt with horrible things before. in our past even as humans we can. That's it. So, it's like and and I think. there's a version where like accepting. these things and moving on allows us to. have even more pride where right now. we're in this like age of like ambiguity. where like we want to be really proud. but we're like but is some of this [ __ ]. true? Like we're just unsure. Yeah. Let. us accept it. Let's accept these the.

stains on our history and then let's. move on and make greater history. Let's. make greater things to be proud of. I. think it's a moment in history to be. proud of where you're an administration. comes in, they go, "Listen, we uh. unfortunately the government let these. uh food companies poison you, you know, and a lot of people are negatively. impacted like that. A lot of people got. cancer probably because of food that. they were eating and that's that's. [ __ ] up. That's horrible. And we're. going to either punish some of those. food organizations or bare minimum we're. going to make it illegal for them to do. that [ __ ] Hey, some of these.

pharmaceutical companies, they were. jabbing you up with [ __ ] that you didn't. need to be jabbed up with and they were. doing that so they could profit. We're. gonna either punish them or we're going. to stop allowing them to do it so the. next generation of Americans doesn't. have to go through what you guys went. through. And then you go, you know. what's fire about America? We realize. when we [ __ ] up and we have the energy. and excitement and the confidence, the. self-esteem to go, all right, we're. changing it and we're going to live up. to the expectations that we have for. ourselves. Yeah. And I that's why I like. like you could say whatever you want.

about RFK. It seems to me what he wants. to do is make a positive change for. people. Let's see if he's able to do it. But in terms of making America healthy. or whatever the slogan is, h why would. you not want America to be more healthy? Like give the guy a second to [ __ ]. try it. Like every minute they're like. this is the problem today. And then that. becomes the story every day. It's just. like how [ __ ] up it is. And I have. friends now that are addicted to the. news and I'm just like dude just live. your life. See, everything's going to. probably be fine. It's already been. fine. We're already damaged. we all have.

cancer or whatever, everything, you. know, we're doing our best and [ __ ] and. like um you know, how drastically bad do. you expect things to get? You know, um. wouldn't it be cool like this? This is. all I said like obviously, you know, I. have a daughter so I'm like and she's of. the age we're going through vaccines and. stuff and it's terrifying. You know, I. was talking to Joe about this. It was. like it's the most terrifying thing you. ever experienced in your life is you. have the most perfect thing you've ever. created and you have to put something in. them and you've watched a video on. YouTube that says that it could do. something horrible to her. But if you. don't do it, she could get some disease.

that could do something horrible to her. So you're like, "What? How do I protect. my kid?" There there's a fork in the. road and both potentially lead to. horrible. How do I protect my kid? I. would love nothing more than to do like. an intense like and I'm sure they've. already done this. So if you have and. call me an idiot, that's fine. I'm an. idiot. Whatever. But like intense like. research into, you know, the. vaccinations. And I would love nothing. more if we found out, hey, you know. what? it it looks like they are safe for. them and there's very low chance cause. of anything negative for your kid. How. much nicer would that feel than right.

now what all of us new parents are. feeling which are like do I have to. delay it like which ones how do I. protect my child like like and the just. just like we want the research we want. it it's yeah we want to know and I think. if you gave Bobby an out where you know. if even if it was 20 minutes a week. where he gave a speech or something and. maybe that he should start doing that to. update people uh Robert Kennedy Jr. where things are at and we're going to. try our best and this is what we're. going to try to do. Maybe that would be. great to have some sort of an address.

You know, Trump's addresses sometimes. they're so Trumpian, you know, they're. just like kind of the bare facts and. like, you know, we're going to win type. [ __ ] So maybe if you had Vance give. something that was a little bit more. elongated and a little bit more um had a. little bit more uh personal notation and. feeling to it, like a Didn't FDR do. that? I think they were called the. fireside chest. Oh, yeah. Where he was. talking to people. You're right. We. might need something like that, dude. Because there's so much muck out there. There's so much [ __ ] information and. like we're guilty of that, too. We just.

spout whatever on the [ __ ] mic and. who knows if it's true or not, but it'd. be nice if we had information. disseminated from the people in power. It might be wrong or it might be right, but they are the people in power, so we. can at least hold them to that standard. If they say that they're doing this. specific thing and we disagree with it, we can be like, I disagree with that. Yeah. But if Bobby's coming out and he's. going, listen, we're getting the red dye. out of here. It doesn't benefit anybody. There are other ways to create uh I. don't know sugar coloring substitutes. that are less harmful to you. Does.

anybody disagree with this? Everybody. goes, "No." Okay, done. Right. Thanks. Yeah. There's still so many people that. just want somebody to be wrong all the. time, you know? So, maybe that'll start. to go away. I don't know. But yeah, I. think if I wake up each day and I looked. at everything as politics and stuff and. um it would just it just starts to wear. on you and then that algorithm learns. you and then you're a [ __ ] puppet. You become a puppet. What else is going. on? Let's think of something in. entertain. I'm trying to think of. something. Um, was there a job that you. had when you were young that you miss.

ever? H. that you were like, I'm [ __ ] good at. this [ __ ] It wasn't that I was good at. it, but I like mowing lawns. Like I felt. like uh uh accomplished afterwards. Like. I I'd look at it and I'd go, "Wow, I did. that. That was kind of annoying. It was. hard. But there here's this thing that I. did and it looks better now and I felt. proud of it. And uh I think there's a. version of that in creating stuff in. general. But I think very early I I I. like to to work on something and then.

see the thing I created. And uh so yeah, there was something really nice that. about that. It's I now I get to do a job. where I like the actual work part and I. like seeing the end product. I didn't. enjoy the work part of it, but but yeah, I think I think that Yeah, I'm trying to. think. I mean, I just worked in like. restaurants. Oh, yeah. You definitely. did. I can see you. For sure. For sure. You What restaurants was I working at?

Oh, obviously. Macaroni Grill, dude. No, dude. You wore a cape at Macaroni Grill. I'm sure. There's no way you didn't. We. didn't have a macaroni grill in the. city, man. Hey, look. We needed a. macaroni grill. That's your origin. story. I work at a pizza shop. I do I do. look like I could pull off pizza shop, right? Look like I was arguing with Spike Lee. I'm trying to think of whatever. I'm. trying to think. What about you? I. worked at pizza shop, man. I love that.

[ __ ] dude. That [ __ ] What was the. first time? Do you remember the first. time as a kid that you made made money. and like the feeling of that? Oh, yeah. We had uh they'd pay you to clean it. We. had like wishing wells in our town or. whatever and they'd pay you to clean. them out like the city like it's like. take the coins out of it. Yeah. Get in. there. Like you had to take a ladder. down and get all the [ __ ] out and stuff. And there's like people throw [ __ ]. try like a lot of used like to-go waters. and [ __ ] in that [ __ ] A lot of Popeyes. in that [ __ ] Uh decent amount of. money. Not as much as you would think.

Yeah. Um we found a [ __ ] sword had. blood on it one time or like a pretty. scalloped or whatever. [ __ ] Um, but. yeah, cleaning out that cleaning out. those one summer. That was probably the. first job I ever had really. But get you. a little bit of money. Hide my money, too. Really? I used to put my money in a. Crown Royal bag. Hide in the yard. Dig. How old were you? Dig a hole and hide. it. Probably 11, maybe 12. Hide that. That's a nice bag. That [ __ ] was nice. You keep that bag. Isn't that weird? Yep. Had some deloons in it that I.

caught at some of the parades and like. the Martyra parades. There's just these. little medallions kind of like they're. not worth they're not worth any money. but they had pictures of like different. historical figures from Louisiana on. them because you catch them at Marty. girl. Yeah. And I put them in a bag and. hide them in a yard. And why do you. think you were hiding your your Didn't. trust anybody in the house. I knew. everybody in that [ __ ] Yeah. Really? My three siblings and my mom. I was. burying that [ __ ] I ain't [ __ ]. lying. Do you still talk to your. siblings? Oh yeah, we talk now. It's. Things are good now. But at the time I. didn't trust anybody in that pastor,

dude. Cuz I was sneaking in their room. and stealing [ __ ] That's the thing. That's where it comes from. That's the. When you ain't [ __ ] you assume other. people ain't [ __ ] It starts here, though. Oh, yeah. It starts here. I. don't trust me so much. I don't trust. you. Crazy, dude. What else, man? What's up. with the culture? How's black stuff. going over there? I know. Um, they have. that new rapper, Gen Lee. Have you seen. him? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought.

it was Jin Lee. Is it Jen? like Jin for. ginger. Well, first of all, he's he's a. black dude who says the Sorry, he's a. white dude that says the N word, right? He put two N's in it, so he misspelled. it, so he could be either one. That's. all I'm saying. But but yeah, he's uh. it's interesting. Yeah, he is. And he's. like he's he's confident saying it. He. seems really like he's from that. culture. Yeah. So, now are we witnessing. that word become more of a cultural. thing and not a specific race thing?

That's what I wonder cuz I'm just. wondering like say you're so much a part. of the culture and it seems like he is. like he has black friends he says the. word around them if you're so much a. part of it but then you can't say that. thing are you then is that feel like the. culture isn't saying well you're you're. you're here but you're not you're not so. I I don't have no idea but it's just. it's interesting it is interesting it is. interesting because it is like so I. guess when I was growing up in New York. it was a thing that white people we. would never say and you could not say,

but like Puerto Ricans that were kind of. like white presenting would say it and. that was fine. Yeah. Um I think even. like Mexicans were kind of saying it. Uh. sometimes even Asians would say it, but. if it felt really like a word white. people were not allowed to say obviously. because of the historical context, right? But that situation right there is quite. interesting. Like if he did grow up in. this culture, maybe it's his friend's. way of saying we don't see you as. different, bro. Right? Like we we.

actually see you as one of us and we. don't feel any negative sentiment when. you say it and this is our way of saying. we accept you and you're not different. Maybe again I don't know. I'd have to. ask them. Whereas like if somebody else. said it who is not from the culture at. all, they'd be like, "Yo, you can't say. that." And that's their way of saying. you're not from the culture, bro. Like. you are not you are you're a visitor. here and you're not allowed to say that. thing. Right. Yeah. That's kind of how I. think I'm say I just think it's. interesting. It's kind of interesting. because you have people defend him.

online. You have people calling him out. online. Um and then some of his music is. great, man. I mean, it's it's catchy. I'm curious to see like it's Yeah, it's. like and some of the lines he's saying. like, you know, don't get in trouble. because of my [ __ ] Like, you know, I'm. not saying this cuz I'm tr I'm just. saying this because this is who I am, right? He even expresses in like that. stand on it song like don't don't get in. don't repeat my [ __ ] just to get and. then now you get in trouble, right? which I think is Yeah, that's empathetic. to giving his story, right? Yeah. Because he probably is aware that, oh.

[ __ ] white kids might see me doing this. and then they think it's okay for them. to do it and now they're getting [ __ ]. up and so he's like, listen, your life. might not be my life. Like, like, at. least you put a safety precaution on. this [ __ ] Like a lot of people that's. like better than the parental advisory. It's just there's a there's a white. disclaimer. Yo, you are not me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a ginger advisory. right there, dude. That's a ginger. advisory, dude. But this is gonna this. could potentially open up gateways for.

some gingers to say the n word and some. spicy some because they've long been. looming on the edge of the culture. The. ring around Saturn they call them. And. it'll be interesting to see what. happens, dude. Yeah. Do we That's. something like we got to ask ourselves. like are we fully accepting of gingers? Like are white people fully accepting of. the gingers? I mean, look, I don't You. even What do you're like part something, right? My father's from Nicaragua. My. and my mother's just white. Yeah. But um.

I don't you know, I've thought, you. know, Yeah. I'm not anymore guy. Not. dropping it. I'm not that [ __ ] no. What. am I [ __ ] trying to prove to. somebody? But I do remember they had. like this cool band. I went to a black. fraternity and we'll get you out here in. a second. Um I wasn't in one. It was. like Snoop or something. N. uh uh Sta Nuke or something. bring up a. couple of black black fraternities over. there. Southern Alpha, what is it? Alpha. University. Alpha Capasai. Alpha. Oh, Beta Feta. Uh, Kappa Alphasai. That.

might have been it. The Kappas are Have. you seen the Kappas before? Kappas are. cool. They like They got like a cane and. they do like these cool dances with the. cane. My boy was My boy was a captain in. college and uh that could have been it. They were like swagged out. And then the. uh what is the the Omegas? Those are. like the uh the athlete that's like the. athlete frat. That's like Oh, really? Five. Yeah. Oh, Zach has that thing. Q. dogs. Yeah. I think it was Q dog [ __ ]. right? They invited They had like a It. was like It was a It was Nickelback, but.

it was black guys doing it, right? It. was like um Don't even say it. Don't. even say it. I'll tell you what it was. Say the name of that cover band. Tony didn't say the name of the. Nickelback black cover band Theo. We've. almost done the whole time. Okay. We did. a good job. We did a good job. I know. you're trying to bait me with this Jin. Lee. We did We did a good job today. Okay. We did a good job today. Hear me.

out. Here we go. Light it on fire. Light it. on fire. It was just a crazy I was like. this is a crazy cover band. Totally. And. then one of their so the song was like. oh this how you remind me. like it's not. it's okay. So they Okay. So they're. doing like hip-hop renditions hip-hop. renditions of Nick of Nickelback. Nickelback. And just make sure you say.

it right. Yeah. We don't even have to go. into it. That's so crazy how we know all. know exactly how it was spelled. But. yeah, look, I just felt welcome to be in. the building, so that's all I'm saying, dude. Look, um, congrats. This is how. you remind me you're not mean. Never made it as a wise man, kid. That whole song right now. Spit. that whole [ __ ] right now. I don't know. what happened to Couldn't cut it as a.

home feeling. We got to stop. It's only. going to get worse. Uh, congratulations. on life. The new specials out now. Congratulations on being a dad, man. Um, yeah, thanks for being just somebody. Yeah, it's good to have like that. there's different podcasters in. different parts of the country and. different parts of like um the world, you know, and it's just we're lucky to. be able to do this and uh and to be able. to spend these conversations. I gotta. come up there and get on.

um on uh on your pod this summer, man. Oh, please, man. I want you on Flagrant. and I want you on Brilliant Idiots, man. I I'll be up there in a I'll be up there. in April, I think. Charlotte got to kick. it, man. That we got to get together. I. know. Even if we just go grab a drink, I. think you guys would hit it off, bro. I. think Oh, I'm sure we would. You got You. guys have great vibes. He's incredible, man. He's He's incredible. I've only. heard good things, man. It would be an. honor. But, uh thank you so much for. your time, dude. I know it's very. valuable and it means a lot and I I just. appreciate Congrats on everything, man. Super stoked for you, bro. Congratulations, dude. This jacket, Zack.

Bryan gave me this jacket. It's very hot. in here. I saw I saw in the back. I was. trying to fit in a little. So, it's as. black as I get today, brother. The Zack. Bryan tour jacket. It kind of shows you where I'm at, you. know. Thanks, brother. All right. You bet, man. Peace. Oh, that was great. Now I'm. just floating on the breeze and I feel. I'm falling like these leaves. I must be. corner. stone. Oh, but when I reach that ground,

I'll share this piece of mind I found. I. can feel it in my. bones. But it's going to take.