Andrew Callaghan | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #414

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Massachusetts those are all available at. theovan.com. t-o-u-r and that will be the return of. the Rat tour. today's guest. um is a uh connector. he's a man that. that that Bridges space between two. things he's a bridge he's a you know he. might be a drawbridge at times I don't. know. we're going to learn just how he.

connects people. um and we're going to talk about just. his journey in journalism. um you may know him from all gas no. breaks uh from French Quarter. confessions. um or from his own channel five today's. guest is Andrew Callahan.

[Music]. wrong. let us pop some deodorant today I. haven't yeah I just got back into. putting deodorant on yeah I actually. didn't wear it for like a year but then. like just the past couple months I don't. know if my diet changed but like the bo. is back really so I actually just gave. myself a hand soap like uh armpit bath.

in your in the podcast bathroom oh wow I. don't know how close we're gonna be. sitting so I was like damn I don't want. you to be holding your tongue about my. armpit odor the whole time yeah you know. because that might send the interview in. a different direction subconsciously. yeah that's a good point man I I hadn't. thought about that I think uh there are. people you get around them and when they. got that. that odor sometimes it repels you. sometimes I notice it.

it's almost like a well it feels a. little bit like uh not welcoming but. there's a human yeah space in there. that's kind of okay like you're fallible. like you smell like I do yeah yeah yeah. like okay I'ma ride this guy you know. I'll give this guy a chance yeah sounds. like [ __ ] yeah. we are couples couple stench bunnies. I'll ride with this homie right here dog. um but I just you know I took a couple. years off too and just the other day I.

put it on yeah and I was like you know I. think there's something. it was a casual and it was like mint and. something else it was one of those more. like uh one somebody made in the woods. or made at their house yeah and I was. like I can I like this a little organic. style yeah not like a typical ax. chocolate or like Old Spice Swagger or. any of those like super heavy chemical. ones yeah that's the ones that started. getting scary yeah I used to collect all. that [ __ ] all the acts flavors you did. when I was a kid dude they had a wife.

you collected I think I was a victim of. the ax marketing like they had the ax. chocolate commercial was like he walks. out of the house and all the ladies are. just like all over him and I was like. that's gonna be me dude I was in seventh. grade I was like gotta keeps stacking up. ax deodorant flavors and see which one. works for me yeah boy you get them axes. boy you get as much [ __ ] deodorant as. you can. yeah I remember something like that dude. being young and this they had this fell. in our uh class named Michael and people. used to beat him up a lot and his dad. could fix computers or whatever and.

where I was from if somebody could fix. computers it was almost like they worked. for Satan you know like yeah people. didn't want that you know can you fix a. [ __ ] truck boy you know what I'm. saying like get out of here with your. damn wires you know and uh and he I. think felt like. deodorant would give him power and I. remember he would put it on his whole. body. really up and down his Limbs and. everything yeah. and it really didn't help him much it. made him you know it made him enjoyable. to be around kind of but I don't think. it helped him in like the emotional.

sense that he was looking for for like a. parent you know yeah because you would. put like and he would put that Old Spice. to Splash stuff on just all over his. entire body yeah like on the front of. his hands yeah yeah make a face too I'm. not sure how much he did on that young. skin it would probably really burn him. I'm sure he smelled great oh dude he was. but I think what he was looking for he's. like if I get enough maybe this positive. smell maybe my father will love me so. you said that like a computer programmer. is like the least honorable profession. where you grew up in Louisiana at the. time it was what do you think at that. time was like the most respectable line.

of work. [Music]. um. probably Tire Care yeah fixing them. patching them up yeah yeah you could. roll in there and roll out in about 12. 13 minutes you know yeah is this before. a Discount Tire kind of like took the. mom and pop Tire spots out of business. yeah back in the good old days yeah back. when you rolled in there and a guy could. he would a guy would he wouldn't even. have to he'd smell around the tire yeah. no it was up I love tire shops oh dude.

they were so good that one of the guys. try to make love to my mother for a. while and I think that also made me. think oh these guys are heroes yeah why. because it was somebody that cared about. my mom I guess you know it was like oh. man these guys they could change the. tire on your life you know yeah they're. heroic for sure about being like you. know someone that loves you but um. anyway man Andrew Callan thanks for. being here bro uh thanks man so some. audience might not know you right you. were certainly like. you are a wizard in your own and in a.

very huge world of Journalism but in. your own world like take me through a. little bit of where you started out so. Andrew's kind of like this I don't know. I'm labeled like this Hunter S Thompson. kind of like this you know this like uh. you're a journalist that's safe. statement yeah you told me one time when. I met you you said I followed the vibe. or the heat I follow where the Energy's. at yeah definitely yeah and so you're. like a Seeker kind of yeah.

um. where do you where do you kind of start. out I first saw you on French Quarter. confessions because I'm from Louisiana. that was my first video project I was at. doorman on Bourbon Street in the corner. and I would get off work and like. interview drunk people for late night. confessionals like when they're out. partying on Bourbon and Royal and any. surrounding streets sometimes on. Frenchmen sometimes we got a little. crazy but I mean I started uh I read. from my high school newspaper and then. like I had this cool ass High School. teacher I didn't really like school too. much but I had a journalism class and. this teacher Calvin would let me like.

leave school for the whole day and I. would come back at the end of the day. like before the bell rang at like 3 25. and he said if you had a story of of a. cool person that you talked to or. someone interesting out there I'd give. you School Credit so I was able to just. roam Seattle like. free roam throughout the day and I would. come back with like stories about. Juggalos that I would meet downtown yeah. you know like how to buy some [ __ ] off. the Silk Road I would go to the Occupy. Movement Tent City and interview people. there and just come back and just like.

write a write a little article we're. right up and I got school credit and. then he helped me that kind of. experience like propelled me to go to. college in Louisiana on a full. scholarship to elliola oh wow so they. gave you could that's where you went. down there Loyola yeah Wolfpack yeah you. know about the wolf pack dude I went to. Loyola for one semester no he didn't. yeah dude you live in Beaver Hall in the. dorms uh no I try to do cocaine with a. girl one time and I couldn't get an. erection and I and I I've always felt. horrible about that that one experience. is the reason you dropped out of college. uh it made me I think leave.

because it was a small campus I didn't. want to see her oh that's a small campus. you know you see every student every day. at Loyola yes yeah yeah there's no like. there's no place to hide over there yeah. and if you go to the boot or the palms. or like snake and Jake's or one of those. like college bars you really see the. same people every day yeah and somebody. usually I feel like there's a sex crime. there every night like it almost should. be like sex crime Sunday you know it. should be like a thing for sure yeah. like a game of Clue they kind of like.

give you like a little check off sheet. yeah those particular bars like on the. corner of like Broadway and zimple all. right [ __ ] nightmare yeah people are. peeing and drinking at the same time. like it's a big and fighting and making. out and grinding which I didn't really. know continued into adulthood I thought. grinding was like a middle school. sort of like uh you know like it's like. but at the boot like right now there's. someone at the boot grinding with a. stranger with their eyes closed just. [ __ ] like the song Candy Shop is. playing and they're just like yeah. straight up vibing it out making out why.

is that why is there something about and. that's how I think I look that is that. dirty Louisiana thing where it's like. let's just get together let our [ __ ]. oysters touch you know there's something. about that I mean I didn't know because. I did some grinding my freshman year at. loyal you know because everyone else is. grinding and I didn't know at that time. but that would be the last time I'd ever. grind yeah you know what I mean I. wouldn't have believed you if you told. me at that time yeah but then I was in. the boot and I was like this is [ __ ]. weird and it never happened again.

I wonder if there'd be like a good. grinding Championship that would see. something that would be something I. could see going to interview I think. Jamaica would win have you seen the. dagger dancing uh-uh they're like. jumping up and down let me try to like. like dramatic air humping like you have. to look it up I'll send you some videos. it sounds like some of the Maasai. warrior stuff is it like that like when. those got like they do a lot of that. it's just like that oh wow that's. interesting yeah. um okay so you you came through French. Quarter confessions that's where a lot. of people I think that's where I first. started about you from being from. Louisiana yeah and um did you miss that.

do you miss that Louisiana Energy kind. of so much man I think about it all the. time like like when I dream it's like. they all take place in the streets of. like New Orleans like it's like my. mental map you know what I'm talking. about it's a special place once once you. connect to it it like never leaves you. yeah you know but it's also hard to find. work out there like it's hard to build a. career in media out there yeah I think. it's really really hard yeah like. there's like the news channels and then. there's like crime yeah or you play for. the Saints I feel like there's not a lot.

of of yeah Avenues to to build a name. for yourself for sure I mean the one. time I tried to get involved in like. local uh like local TV stations in. Louisiana I just I decided an NDA and. they're like we're not going to tell you. what your assignment is but just sign. this and we're going to get you on TV. and I'm like all right cool so I sign it. and they send me in like a sprinter van. to Covington Louisiana yeah and they're. like you see this woman her house just. burnt down. she doesn't know this yet but her two. dogs are dead inside the house you gotta. go walk in that house with her.

and write about it I was like this is. the worst job ever it was like maybe. gender reveal I'm a bit not like that. yeah it was the saddest thing I've ever. seen yeah and so I was like I don't want. to do this but after court of. confessions like I would uh hitchhike. around the US a lot like by myself I'm. like oh you did so you got so after that. you then you made it into hitchhiking. yeah pretty much like right around there. too so I would hitchhike from like. Seattle to New Orleans and back and just. interview like Outlaws runaways. deadbeats like crazy Motel creatures in. like Nevada you know the real reptilians.

oh yeah man look I've done a lot of. picking up hitchhikers over my day and. people that I mean I remember the worst. one I ever had was a guy not the worst. really the best also this guy uh what. did he say oh he goes you want a cold. beer and I'm like there's no [ __ ] way. this dude there's a cold beer on him. pulled a cold beer out of his jacket man. like I don't know if you've been cooling. with his heart or just whatever he had. you know and he pulled a cold beer out. of his jacket and I was like oh this. dude is a real some type of like uh. future baby or some type of wizard or.

something and then uh he told me a story. one time he got picked up by a guy one. time. and it was in a hot the guy ended up. being in a high speed chase from the. police right so next you know this. hitchhiker's in a high-speed chase right. yeah and so he's like he asked the guys. like why'd you pick me up and he goes. because I don't want to die alone. yeah. one second. yeah gotta get some phlegm out real. quick yeah get it out man.

we'll sell it actually. okay so you get into the hitchhiking. take me on some of your hitchhiking. Journey right there I mean just. just everything was so ridiculous like. every ride was like crazier than the. last you know what I mean like there's. always that one story that I tell about. like. tiny like Honduran dude picking me up in. Crowley Louisiana and like taking me to. like a refurbished barn house that had. like 12 confessional booths and I didn't. know that it was like a porn viewing. have you been to a place like this was. it like a uh people kind of a gay meet.

up or just okay or straight I think it's. a place where truckers pull over to like. have a private pornography viewing. experience they have like a bottle of. lotion and like they have three channels. they have like the gay channel regular. channel then like the fetish Channel or. whatever so I'm thinking I picked this. dude up he has like a [ __ ] up car and. uh he takes me to the place to view it. tries to you know see what was up and I. was like nah. and then he was like oh why were you at. that truck stop and I guess where he. picked me up was like a known.

kind of a notorious Bae for notorious. notorious gay prostitute truck stop. so he thought that I was a I wonder why. he didn't say anything for an hour in. the car but he didn't want to get like. get a solicitation charge so he didn't. say much because he kind of figured I'd. let it out he wanted he was asking me. weird questions like do you like porn do. you like movies and I was like this guy. right yeah do you like if you ever yeah. what kind of condiments do you like yeah. just like strange [ __ ] like that super. super weird yeah but I wrote a book. about the hitchhiking like a Zine thing.

yeah yeah and like people liked it I. probably sold a couple hundred copies. like that was good but then I realized. like nobody really reads dude. yeah reading is a tough thing for people. do you even find for yourself that it's. hard to read these days I'd prefer to. listen to a podcast or an audiobook you. know but it is like a calming like uh. thing to do reading yeah I think it. makes my mind does something good for my. brain yeah I feel like in my mind it. makes them kind of settle down it puts. them like on a pace that feels like they. can keep up with yeah whereas like this. the way we kind of uh have media.

nowadays sometimes it feels like a pace. that's not fair to the yeah the the. operating system that I have you know. that God put in me or whatever. um any hotties ever pick you up any. chicks ever pick you up was there ever. any sex on the route no. definitely not it was mostly like a. super old-timey like sticking stick and. middle. kind of like formerly Vagabond hobo. dudes you know because I think that like. they they grew up before Texas Chainsaw. Massacre came out which to me is the.

quintessential turning point of. hitchhikers being viewed as like. potentially homicidal Maniacs but before. that I'm assuming it was a cool [ __ ]. hippie thing to do you know but then. after that it was like hitchhiker is a. is a murderer yeah and so I think now. like people would flip me off you know. like good we're talking like Christian. Family Folk we'll be driving in a. minivan look at me and the whole family. would flip me off oh that yeah just. strange look at that yeah. yeah they used to call yeah I remember. yeah people sometimes drive by call me a.

road inward they were coming up like. what what do you even thought wow. so you you did submission yeah man I. used to get out there bro I used to love. it I used to love. you know what I think I loved I think I. did it because there was a part of me. that wanted to. have something different you know yeah. but then there was that moment of fear. where it's like I don't know what the. heck's gonna happen to me yeah I think I. always like that you know Gamble. like one dude that picked us up in.

Arizona drove me from Phoenix to Vegas. he was like uh basically an arms dealer. you know and he had just spent the. better part of 10 years like in Arizona. State Penitentiary and his whole back. seat had like Home Depot uh buckets just. full of like magazines switches. silencers beams all this crazy ass [ __ ]. and was it hard to navigate that is it. hard to stay in the pocket in there and. not just like jump out or well because. you know one thing you learned from. being a hitchhiker is people lie a lot.

they try to impress you they try to. relate to you and they want to seem. super cool and like weathered so they. would tell you like man I used to be. selling guns all up and down the West. Coast you're like okay you know we hear. you right and then he was like no for. real check out the back and I look at. these buckets full of like gun parts and. I'm like why the [ __ ] did this guy pick. me up yeah and he was already running. hot riding hot as hell right but I guess. he probably enjoyed the roll of the dice. too oh right there's two people are. rolling the dice and it's also like. saying hey God I'm gonna put the dice or. Fates or whatever I'm gonna put the dice.

in your hands exactly I'm gonna let I'm. gonna take if I I'm gonna like. yeah I'm gonna take my hands off the. wheel yeah dude a lot of times I would. let people just or I would get picked up. or have people take me just even around. our own town you know and it was. definitely. uh yeah there's that element of. uncertainty what's gonna happen here you. know and also it takes some of the. responsibility of your own life off of. you you're like I'm gonna put my life in. this guy's hands this Mazda yeah you. know this dude in a mile you know with.

underglow yeah. damn bro yeah and hitchhiking needs to. be so popular in the 70s and stuff like. that like 1978 or whatever Texas. Chainsaw Massacre drop that's when it. happened huh and then every year there. was a hitchhiker horror movie of some. hippie looking dude who likes you know. slashes the driver's throat oh it's. horrible but also in the south I mean. hitchhiking is a lot harder than it is. on the west coast you think so I did the. 101 one time like from Astoria Oregon. down to like the bay I got picked up.

within 30 seconds every time by people. in like Volkswagen Vans and RVs like you. know West Coast kind of like hippie. adjacent folk in the South I feel like. it's more of a charity thing like when I. remember I got picked up in Paducah. Kentucky one time which is like the most. religious small town I've ever been to. and everyone who picked me up was like. you you remind me of my son I'm like. what do you mean they're like he's. strung out on dope somewhere and I'm. like okay I'm not but like thank you so. I think it's just a different barometer. you remind me of my hot daughter in that.

area dude you would probably compete. with some of the local models I think I. think so too I could model in Paducah. all right if all else fails I can just. go model in the Appalachia yeah. gotta get stronger hands you know once I. get like farmer fingers bro how pissed. are they get would they get if like a. trans model showed up and started. winning all the pageants oh dude culture. War 2.0 that'd be so good the culture. War has been uh is back on I mean you've. been watching the news yeah I think I. see a lot of it so when you say culture.

War what does it mean it means when. mainstream media propagates like. um irrelevant uh small culture War [ __ ]. you know like things that aren't like. really a big issue like you know like. trans women playing in sports and they. obsess over it to distract you from real. things that are going on do you think. that they do that yeah totally do it. like yeah like left like liberal and. like conservative mainstream media they. pick strategically like before midterms. to get people all riled up by like. zooming in on like specific they know. what they're doing yeah like people with.

lisps like they're you know or like uh. yeah like trans people in sports yeah. doesn't this make you angry like you. didn't hear about it for like eight. months and then they're like oh [ __ ] we. got an election coming up let's Stoke. more anxiety and like exploit people's. fears about about this yeah I try to get. votes and it works huh instantly. on both sides yeah. yeah it works instantly on both sides. it's amazing sometimes because people. look at. the conservative side I feel like this. is just a general thought of my own.

people get the conservative side as. being a less educated side. but both sides will fall for the same. exact tricks yep. it's almost crazy you can almost I don't. know it's just really fascinating to me. that it's like. but you this is the same game being done. on both on both teams oh yeah totally. like liberal media will go to like the. furthest sticks and Boonies they can. they can possibly go to to find like. they're like racist guy to interview. yeah and just to get people all freaked. out and I'm sure you know what that's.

like they often scapegoat the South. yeah this happened a lot it's happened a. lot over the years especially during. like uh during Trump during like that. Administration during that kind of stuff. yeah those white guys in Charlestown or. whatever like Charlottesville yeah yeah. I thought it was surely like there's. probably a couple of dudes in there who. was hoping things would go to another. level of like yeah of let's wide it like. you know Whiting around yeah but I think. there was a probably as many people that. were just confused and responded to a. Craigslist ad you know yeah for sure.

um and just following falling victim to. their own Echo chamber you know like. they're in these tight weird online. Niche communities and the algorithm. starts recommending [ __ ] to them that. they already know they're going to be. receptive to to get more ad revenue and. before you know it they're just like. down the rabbit hole and these social. media companies are making [ __ ]. Millions while these people were just. spiraling out of control yeah the next. thing you know they're yelling [ __ ]. about Jews in public I mean that's crazy. dude you know I don't yell anything in. public yeah yeah Michael Myers is pretty. I don't honestly bro the dude not that. scary anymore I saw the last Halloween.

it was horrible the one few years ago. was horrible. I can't imagine how bad this one is. but. if you look at him. he looks like the kind of dude that. tightens his body up because he's got. that whacker on him bro. he's got that uh he's got that Tremor. baby that that he got a damn machete. doesn't he. what I'm telling you about is manscaped. is the safe way to do it that man could. easily whack his wiener off but you. won't.

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to go through these certain portals or. it feels like that they can't be. communicated yeah there's no more like. Town town crier I mean no one would take. you seriously right that's the thing no. one would take you seriously but I seek. out people like that yeah that's sort of. the basis of early all gas bill breaks. interviews is like I don't want to talk. to an online loud person I want to talk. to a real life screamer yeah so you get. so so yeah get me to all gas no breaks. and then let's get to channel five so. and then uh just for our listeners so. you you you're doing the hitchhiking.

you've left out of Louisiana. and you end up in Seattle in Seattle and. then from Seattle like down to LA on the. west coast and back to Colorado I I mean. The Summer's following that I hitchhiked. a bunch but the book that I wrote and. it's not for sale anymore but it was. about like my first hitchhiking. experience uh that kind of had like a. small cult following which led me to. want to make a ship the book was called. August snow Breaks A Hitchhiker's diary. yeah and I was like man nobody really. reads I want to make a like an. interview-based Road Show so I convinced. the company to buy me an RV whatever.

made all gas no breaks fell out with the. company over a contractual dispute right. signed a movie deal with Tim and Eric. that movie is coming out in December. awesome it's with HBO and 824 and. congratulations I'm stoked dude it's. crazy wow yeah and so the movie will be. about I know you have a tour coming up. too right yeah yeah so I mean that's. crazy man I start my first ever tour in. like 12 days it's like 45 dates like. back to back we're gonna screen scenes. from the movie we're gonna find like. battle rappers and magicians via.

Craigslist yeah to open up each. performance you can have some people. from episode I know that you've already. taped that will be at some of the uh at. some of the venues yeah definitely and. it's just crazy I've just been like. trying to be calm before the tour starts. I just been playing tennis and hanging. out with my mom every day oh wow yeah at. Venice Beach tennis courts do you and. your mother look alike or no yeah for. sure y'all do yeah that's cool I think. so yeah yeah. um is your father still alive or no yeah. he's alive he's a bartender in Seattle. oh he is yeah oh wow he's a cool dude.

are your parents pretty proud of you. yeah I think so I hope so yeah they. should be I think yeah you know what I. mean do you feel like your desire to. create or to get out there and interview. people do you feel like any of that came. from your own childhood or do you think. it was just a choice you kind of made as. you like is it more about journalism or. is it more about seeking something to. fulfill something inside of you well I. think my mom is like a super sweet like. caring person very empathetic big. listener she's she was the kind of. person that like you know if someone. would approach us on the street you know. like I need some help she would always.

help them but a step further like talk. to them and Converse with them and so. like I think when I was super young she. would humanize people just day to day. for me so I didn't go I didn't grow up. with this wall or like glass wall. between me and like people who I didn't. understand right so I just kind of went. through life and then like when I. started smoking weed when I was like 13. in Seattle like walking around downtown. High I just became like this like a. toddler level curious like wander and I. would just walk around like what's up. where are you from what's and I would. ask people what's the craziest thing. you've ever seen I was young like what's.

crazy I've ever seen I'll just sit there. for like an hour I'm like damn dude all. right peace so I was like listening to. basically five hours of free podcast. today and so by the time I got old I was. like damn you can make a career out of. this like that's sick wow that's. incredible man yeah Seattle's got. Seattle at night gets really it's got a. like a damp vampire. there's a lot of damn condensation. [ __ ] drug Muppets bouncing around. over there certainly so it's a beautiful. American city yeah yeah.

we used to do that comedy club. underground underground comedy over. there yeah it was it was honestly one of. the best rooms to do comedy in I think. it's still there. um so now so so so that's where you're. at now so now you got like I mean you. you do so much interesting stuff now you. follow is that still kind of your your. goal to follow the the heat to follow. what's going on how hard is it to still. do that when you've gotten busier uh I'm. not I mean right now there's not much.

happening in the news cycle so it's like. I'm more doing like character studies. and like random cultural interest stuff. but like once the midterms kick back. into full swing like I gotta follow the. newsbeat like there's nothing better. than like being on the ball of news as. it's happening like it's it's like the. best feeling it's like it's kind of like. a nickname wow like watching history. unfold and documenting it and being like. on scene I get how reporters can get. addicted to like following that high all. the time but you gotta like stay away. from that to a certain degree because. then you become just like a chaos. tourist and he spent every waking day. being like where are people pissed off.

and you get so used to it's kind of. Jades your mind and you're like man like. Society is in decline because you spend. every other day at like a right or. left-wing protest so it's important to. kind of zoom out and cover like pause of. subjects like I went to a powerlifting. event in Sacramento a month ago called. world's strongest man that was just fun. no one's talking about like you know the. Clinton deep state cabal or like the. collapse of civilization so I'm like man. this is just nice so you gotta pepper. your life with [ __ ] like that to stay. level-headed I think interesting D yeah.

I saw you talking a bunch of like those. jizz wizard dudes those like guys that. are like those [ __ ] you know what I'm. saying yeah garglers dude them dudes go. deep Bro yeah will blunderfield this is. oh okay will will he's kind of the. commander-in-chief of the jizz Wizards. and uh and that's a new movement really. of men did you see that just as a while. like an out there group or do you see. that as a as as an example of men trying. to find different ways to regain. masculinity I think for I think that.

will will specific demographic is dudes. who would be traditionally called Gay by. Society okay trying to become bisexual. to a certain extent you know what I mean. because he's talking about how you know. when he does same-sex erotic bonding in. the forest with his Bros it kind of. makes him have appropriate Verge you. know so I think to a certain degree. I think the manosphere has definitely. taken over like a lot of the surface net. even what is the manosphere just like.

Andrew type people you know just like. men's. like Alpha men's Wellness self-help. dudes you know but I think that Will's a. bit different because it's more on like. the spiritual side and it's more. connected to like. eating well and all that type of [ __ ]. cutting like glyphosate and natrazine. out of your diet to like have your. chakra as aligned and like reach the new. dimension and like breath work and I. feel like he I feel like he's more on. that tip but then again I feel like 2020.

and covid created this insane fusion. with like the Wellness Community. and like pretty hard right people. because of the anti-vaxx thing oh. interesting so like half of the you know. like yogis and like holistic Community. Wellness people became like fully q and. on pilled in 2020. wow like I remember I. I'm not gonna say her name but the one. this lady who invented butthole sunning. or perennium sunny yeah I've heard a lot. about that yeah so she it was super like. kind of cool hippie like free thinker.

believes in the Sun God thinks the Sun. God speaks to your soul through your. anus Reyes come in get into your body. that's got Divine energy. I hadn't talked to her in like six. months I checked back on her Instagram. and it's a this is real [ __ ] it's George. Floyd and then like a lizard person. cropped over each other and she was like. don't believe everything you see on TV. and like it's just crazy to see like. that happening to someone like that and. now it's all just like the storm is.

coming like crazy ass like Fringe [ __ ]. like JFK Jr is still alive. oh wow like uh Yankee Junior. no he's no he's not but his him being. alive is Central to the Q Anon oh I see. okay I see that you're just saying that. it gets in that little that uh drain. they were waiting at the grassy knoll in. Dallas like four months ago for his. return no way yeah and like it's kind of. like Bigfoot hunting style where like. one guy says that he saw it when. everyone looked away and so I met a guy.

who was like I saw him and everyone's. like no you didn't like and they almost. were having some infighting he's like. nah dude I saw him you were down there. when that happened no but I talked to a. bunch of the people who were there at. the people's Convoy which is like a. trucker protest right after okay yeah. wow I'm pretty deep in that little world. yeah we've well we've had Bobby Kennedy. on here before so he was big he's a. environmentalist you know so it's in it. makes sense that he would be you know he. was always about like taking care of. nature so then it makes sense that he.

would take want to take that his. interest would lead to taking care of. the nature inside of your body you know. like the waterways inside of your body. and that sort of thing um. so he's been a big like I wouldn't call. him an ant I don't know I don't know if. he was anti he wasn't anti-cover but I. think he was in anti-vaxx anti or making. sure that vaccinations are tested. correctly yeah. um because in my town I grew up in a in. in Covington Louisiana and they had they. used to they were making the polio. vaccine in our town in like the 60s or.

something whenever they put it out or. maybe the I think the 60s or 70s. um. and they that's where they created the. polio vaccine at and they used to test. it on monkeys well the polio vaccine. ended up giving cervical cancer to. millions of women but they'd already. made it and they were just like yeah. [ __ ] it we already bought it right yeah. we already the deal sealed yeah this is. what we got so it helped polio but you. there was a high risk for cervical.

cancer so I think some people you know. it it also depends I think where some. people's mindsets come out of yeah. um do you uh do you now like like I know. you just went in and interviewed Alex. Jones and had to sit down with Alex. Jones yeah what was that kind of like. was that do you think the guy was. absolutely crazy do you think he was. overwhelmed by the the lawsuit at this. point. um or do you feel like he's on point. with some stuff and he's just too loud.

for the world these days like. I don't know it's such a tough one. because I I do see both angles of it you. know what I mean and I had a lot of heat. from a lot of my fans for even talking. to him I mean the billion dollar verdict. it's he probably has between two and. three million dollars and Infowars or. Free Speech systems is filing for. bankruptcy so he's not gonna the the. Sandy Hook families aren't going to see. that money right but um I guess it's a. precedent in the future. for it's like if you because he was.

really coming after the parents as well. right you know like he put one of the. parents addresses up I mean it's. egregious I mean it's egregious when. somebody go and I can't imagine when you. go through something like that yeah and. there's this voice that gets loud yeah. but I'm reading this book called Sandy. Hook by Elizabeth Elizabeth Williamson. and like some of the dudes that Alex was. like platforming on his [ __ ] I hate. saying platforming but like let's do the. Wolfgang Helbig and there's people who. like were threatening like 4 000 emails. a day to the Sandy Hook family's like. type [ __ ] like harassing them stalking. them leaving messages saying they're.

gonna kill them accusing them of keeping. their kids alive as sex slaves in the. attic and [ __ ] horrible stuff so there. wasn't a lot of people it's not just. about Alex it's just somebody it's about. people the ripple effect yeah because. there's a whole community of lost people. who devote their whole life to harassing. the uh victims families of the Colorado. Aurora shooting of Sandy Hook of Uvalde. like it's a whole community of you know. crisis actor follower was like false.

flag have you been able to meet any of. those types of folks even just to see. like because I think one thing that's. really interesting that you do and I. really like seeing it man is that you. kind of just you go and just kind of. listen to people it's like hey here's. what's going on and I think it's really. powerful even as you say like some of. your followers or or supporters like oh. why would you even give this guy a space. but people would say that too about. having Bobby Kennedy on here why would. you give this guy's face like he's a. human being he's first of all one of the. smartest guys that I know yeah like.

really interesting and amazing friend. yeah so it's like I wouldn't not trust. him like why wouldn't I listen and hear. what his what his thoughts are and. what's going on I just think like the. more liberal audience is like super into. uh. de-platforming and they think that like. giving someone a giving a problematic. person a platform is somehow supporting. them and I always refute that like this. if I if it's a lesser-known shitty. person then I'm cherry-picking to kind. of dunk on that's [ __ ] up you know if.

I'm if I bring some white nationalist. from the you know cuts of Alabama on my. show just to like Grill him and make him. look stupid right I am inadvertently. growing his audience by bringing him on. because the people who watch my [ __ ] and. and even if they agree with me his name. is now out there I've elevated his name. to the top and so people will know his. name and go to his website you kind of. increase traffic for that person right. and you create future white nationalists. and vice versa but like Alex Jones. everybody knows who that is he's a.

household name the proud boys everybody. knows who that is so when I'm. interviewing people like that that most. of my audience doesn't like I am not. increasing their fame or increasing. their exposure because with or without. me everyone's gonna know who those. people are right Alex Jones is on the. front page of the New York Times the. proud boys are being investigated by the. FBI for January 6. so me interviewing. them I'm not platforming or increasing. Their audience at all but you know if I. was to interview like more lesser known. you know Fringe people I wouldn't do.

that you know yeah like if you were to. interview like Whitey killer 1200 or you. were to interview like um slave buyer 55. exactly then you would be you know or. yeah but mainstream media like liberal. media does that [ __ ] they find like the. dumbest person they can and they're like. inside the Klu Klux Klan and it's and. it's like some like 300 pound like CSI. Miami Watchers and his cherries like why. people we're just better at stuff.

and the journalist is like what do you. mean by that how can you say something. like that he was like. you know I'm not doing that [ __ ] man. yeah it's interesting and it's like. people that why do people get so stuck. in their own like why can't people just. let somebody else have a different. belief like like a different politician. how did that get so crazy from your. perception I don't know but I think that. uh the politics like the how all the.

late night TV shows and how SNL just. became like orange man bashing machines. yeah and you [ __ ] turn on Colbert or. Jimmy Kimmel or something it's literally. like every other night is like an. anti-trump monologue it was horrible. they ruined their shows I think they're. still doing it. they're crazy though it seems like bad. but why it's like. you could just say hey this is who I. supporter don't support yeah I think the. incentive is there it's the safest thing. you can do you know in comedy in in that.

realm is to just bash like you know a. conservative president and I don't. support Trump you know but it's like I. don't want to go on late night TV and. watch the rich guy talk [ __ ] about. another rich guy I know you know what I. mean I'm just like this is just the same. [ __ ] and I think that has something to. do with it. because if you think about it right like. those shows reach everybody they're on. cable so you can be sitting in the. middle of a red State and you go on. cable and you go to Comedy Central ABC. late night and that's what you're seeing. is you're a supposed hero being [ __ ] on.

by you know the comedic Elite of late. night TV in Los Angeles or New York. right and that they're all on the same. page none of them have any different. view or not even a lot of uh like. variation variation in their own views. yes. but like the real OG is like Jon Stewart. like they've held it now you know that. to me that's like the best yeah early. Daily Show. to me that was like during the bush era. that was like this absolute sweet spot. of like comedic late night political.

[ __ ] yeah and Bush also was they kind of. made like it was different with Trump. people I mean they. Hollywood just decided they [ __ ] their. yeah either something either we don't. have enough ownership over this guy or. he's too much of a loose cannon whatever. it is but that not a. excuse me not a chance or or are we. everybody's gonna hate this dude and. then everybody works with Holly so they. have no choice yeah that's who pays. their bills yeah it's also hard to. satirize a guy who doesn't give a [ __ ].

about everyone thinks right you know. what I mean it's like you think he gives. a [ __ ] he just likes the attention from. it you know right I think yeah that's. really interesting too but I think that. turned off a lot of people even if. people like. weren't that political it was just like. well why are you so one-sided like what. do you what what do you have in this. yeah and there's you can there's real. venom in some of those monologues dude. oh yeah you're like Jesus Christ this is. like mean-spirited almost man like oh. yeah I thought that it was I think it. ruined Hollywood for a lot of people.

it's like it made a lot of people think. like well obviously this is a group that. doesn't support me yeah do you think. that your move to Nashville was like a. little bit inspired by that stuff. I think well I wanted to honestly save. money yeah and everybody went to Austin. and I never wanted to be like everybody. else and everybody did it you know Joe. Rogan moved there and Tim Dylan went. there and uh Tom Segura and I think I. always wanted to be a little bit. different yeah you know.

um. I was scared that if I you know. I don't know I want to go look at Austin. now I'm gonna go check it out for a. month and see. um and then Nashville I don't know I. think there's. there's something really nice about it. it's just a lot of nice folks you've. been liking it yeah I think it's nice I. think. it does a lot of. this is a lot of nice people there like. I have like the nicest neighbors I've. ever had yeah. um it gives me a little bit of a.

different idea of what's uh. of what the America's still like kind of. you know that's nice does it feel. Southern to you. yeah it does sometimes it I would never. was like redneck growing up like our. family didn't have any money we were. just poor white yeah yeah so we were. like. you know like we didn't have a boat like. a boat or any you know we didn't have. like a flag that we supported we didn't. have you know my father was from. Nicaragua he was 70 years old when I was. born my mother was from Illinois.

and was making love to a poor old man. like you know yeah who's having sex with. a seven-year-old with no money yeah. you know what I'm saying like it's a bad. deal no matter who you are yeah I know. it's not good it's like it just seems. like a poor business choice you know man. that's a shitty age to have no money I. know yeah and it's just like anyway so. so yeah I think um what are some things. that I like about it it's nice for. touring too we can take tour buses right. out of there yeah uh and it's one of the. last Southern cities that still feels.

kind of. like um I don't know it has like a new. rebirth yeah like I've gone to a lot of. these cities like uh Montgomery. um Jackson you've been there even. Savannah during the daytime downtown. kind of like uh Jackson yeah yeah. Charleston and Charleston's popping. Birmingham is pretty good too yeah. Birmingham I hear is pretty good I. haven't been really spending time there. in the city but there's a lot of. Southern cities uh Columbus Georgia that. are just like ghost towns yeah you know.

especially Mississippi oh Mississippi is. a really ghost State like the north part. of it like the Delta yeah shelled out. towns it's gotten really bad man. um yeah Mississippi's is crazy man a. really bad branding happened I think. with a lot of like a lot of the South. was based on even a lot of the tourism. was based on tradition like War. battlefields and Antebellum homes things. like that that I think white people. didn't realize maybe as much.

at that black maybe Black Culture didn't. have like. or maybe have angered them I don't know. I think a lot of that kind of came out. during BLM when a lot of like statues. were being torn down and like um. you know so I think the South also is in. a little bit of a space where it's like. well. I don't think I was grasping on to the. history there because it was racist I. just thought it was the history like. Robert E Lee that was the statue like. yeah you know we would all meet up there. Mardi Gras I don't think half of us knew.

what the [ __ ] he did yeah you know. um but I think so a lot of the tradition. there feels like it's been stirred yeah. and I think a lot of people down there. don't really know what to do in some. Southern places right now yeah I wonder. when they're gonna start landmarking. like a like hip-hop achievements and. [ __ ] like when I was in I was in. Clarksdale and Yazoo City and the Delta. and it's everything is like the you know. the delta blues Trail like here's where. lightning Hopkins like grew up and I'm. like what about Lil Wayne yeah like at. what point are we gonna start like. markings Logan's house and Holly Grove.

and [ __ ] because like that stuff really. changed the world in a similar way that. Blues did you know it's not even a. bigger impact but like I'm amazed they. haven't done that I think about it all. the time like hip-hop Heritage Trail. it's gonna happen eventually we're gonna. be tripping bro we're gonna be like 90. years old if they're like in the third. world they're gonna be like here stood. with the Magnolia projects where soldier. Slim and Master P and C murder came out. with their first No Limit Records album. we're gonna be like what the [ __ ] but it. has to happen right well it see it. almost seemed like it's behind schedule.

especially since they've gone through so. many of those projects and stuff over. the years and torn like had to tear them. down or refurbish you think somebody. would have said hey let's just take this. building yeah and make it make some. money for the city you know especially. yeah they should have preserved like one. of the Old Magnolia buildings oh yeah. big boy where juvenile grew up yeah I. mean that's like the backdrop to like. the birth of [ __ ] Southern rap music. dude I would go there in a heartbeat. because it's so funny because I've gone. to the ones where like Elvis was born. yeah uh and you'll see signs like muddy. Gussy grew up here like people you don't.

even know anymore yeah but if they had. like big boy like uh if they had a lot. of different ones along that trail it's. one of those classic things of like. who's really gonna campaign on that. though it's like in Seattle you can't. drink in strip clubs. what congressman is going to be like I'm. going to make this my issue. you know what I mean but I think these. days I think you make that small. pinpoint issue that catapults you from. being some Muppet with like uh or you. know just somebody to be in like all you.

need is that one yeah and then you're in. the game as long you gotta you gotta. have some backup plans yeah for sure but. dude I can't believe that they have. strip clubs where you can't drink it. like. this like. but the the the strippers are all on. pill they can [ __ ] do pills but I. can't remember God in a white cloth yeah. I thought this is America now I feel you. my dad works next to a strip club my dad. works at a bar connected to a strip club. yeah and so it's always like bar strip. club back to bar back to strip club it's.

like just tear the wall down. oh dude we went to a strip club once in. uh in Virginia we were touring a couple. of months ago and they're like uh in uh. oh Edgar Allan Poe used to own this a. strip club yeah his his like his. I think it's Edgar Allan Poe is he from. Virginia. no I grew out in post from Baltimore. okay well at one point he lived I guess. in Virginia and he like lived there for. a while or something yeah like oh we. used to live here it was like a historic.

building yeah but then part of it was a. strip club it's pretty cool I didn't. even know Edgar Allan Poe got down like. that I think he got down the coast a. little bit went looking for a little bit. of push yeah he had a twisted mind oh he. had to dude it must have been a Twist to. this strip club dude he was like one of. the first BLM activists look at the. [ __ ] that the Raven or whatever was. that about race it was about black birds. yeah it was actually a pretty good. anti-racist number you know what I'm. saying yeah when all the right when. everybody's writing about red robins and. you start rocking about the Bia about. the about the Raven so was he like.

were authors like rappers back then like. you think if you went to the strip club. everyone was like oh [ __ ] it's Edgar and. things like making it rain or what was. the strip club like before that kind of. music oh I don't know violin violin I. just can't Envision like you know yeah. just that slow with no future like what. does a strip club look like the artist. Future right right yeah 100 I don't know. that's a great question. a hunting we will go maybe a hunt just. like maybe somebody's singing stuff like.

that like folksy accordion yeah huh you. ever been in the Claremont Lounge in. Atlanta yeah that's a good one it is a. good one what's Bourdain's favorite spot. was it really yeah yeah it used to have. that old uh an older lady in there and. she'd get those beer cans for you yeah. and they're a good place to watch people. do Coke that shouldn't be doing it yeah. for sure what's weird for me in strip. clubs is I only like them if they're. like super novelty. you know yeah I like getting like an. atmosphere sense like it's like Sopranos. bada bing Style just like the lighting.

and like just degenerate people I like. to watch the people at strip clubs yeah. more of a burlesque style or something. no I mean like I like to I like to look. at the dudes who are at who are watching. strippers more than the strippers oh wow. because it's so interesting. yeah there's something about somebody. being right there to like. it's almost like a sense of like I don't. know I guess some people go probably for. desperation yeah they have just like. this weird like slack jaw and like a. permanently half full whiskey neat. Jameson glass and they're just like. absolutely mesmerized with like this wet.

stack of ones because their Palm is. sweating you know the ring in their back. pocket just like. nothing in front of nothing behind them. just in the moment. you know what I mean yeah there's some. feeling right there huh yeah because. they they must know that the girls don't. actually like them. yeah so I guess a lot of is the myth of. it maybe it's they want to feel like a. rock star like Nickelback style yeah. like they're at the strip club by. themselves but I mean imagine going to a. strip club by yourself ordering a.

Jameson and smoking a cigar Lake. yeah but idyllic like it's like some. Hemingway [ __ ] it's like yeah yeah like. this is me I'm I do this this isn't. weird at all this is cool this is what. rock stars do yeah you know but then the. women are all peeled up it's not even. this like exchange of emotion anymore. it's just two people sharing each other. hoping one of them has a has a perk on. them you know yeah that's what I feel. like it's almost like playing perk chess. with their eyes yeah I've never even. taken a prescription pill before you.

know just playing just with that two 120. milligram stare how does that make you. feel Percocet like I don't know I took. two Somas one time and actually drove. off a road on accident and my buddy I. think R.I.P tried to give me a BJ or. something I don't even remember fully. but I wouldn't take them yeah I'm saying. that's what I'm saying I just have. friends who take them I've had had a. friend take them I looked them I'm like. well how are you feeling right now it's. crazy I think it disconnects you from. any senses that you have anything wrong.

yeah there's nothing wrong man that's. not a good thing no you're made out of. marshmallows and [ __ ] homemade [ __ ]. dude I think you have everything that's. perfect you know I wanted to ask you so. what happened to the king and the sting. podcast it's no longer oh the king and. the sting podcast yeah the the the. podcast is still going I'm just not I'm. not doing it you're a brand new cool. though yeah yeah. we just. honestly man I missed I couldn't I. didn't have enough attention really to. focus yeah like I like I like my own.

podcast and we have a unique kind of. audience I think yeah and I think I. wanted to be able to I feel a lot more. in touch with this now yeah like it's. important to me yeah and it was still. important but it was just a lot to try. and juggle yeah I liked uh the Gringo. poppy actually yeah yeah yeah oh I think. I people give Brennan so much. uh Flack and I think that's one of the. reasons I admire him in some ways yeah. is how you could withstand so much.

uh disdain from people you know or fake. disdain yeah it's pretty psychotic. crazy isn't it yeah it goes back to the. people you were talking about yeah no. for sure it's kind of why I stopped like. I still have Instagram and stuff I just. don't go on it. because like when you run that when. you're like a major public figure or. whatever me a big media figure like if. someone comments on your [ __ ] you're. amazing at its best that's an ego boost. unhealthy ego boost and if someone says. you suck then that's an anxiety Spike so. it's like there's no once you've kind of.

passed that threshold of like validation. from the public it's nothing but bad for. your mind because this little box in. your pocket it's like oh you're the [ __ ]. man you're the best journalist I'm. walking around by myself getting. endorphins from that which is not. natural it should be like you know. touching trees playing tennis with my. mom but instead it's like and then if. someone then if that box is like [ __ ]. you man you're a libtard you're sellout. or something I'm like oh man like I. don't I feel bad about myself yeah so. there's no healthy like Middle Ground I.

don't think for me at least I'm too. sensitive. man I'm too sensitive to it too I and I. I still let it affect you know I let it. affect me a lot of times I notice like. you're saying to have somewhere with all. that I go there for certain things. um did you just kind of pick that up or. did you always know it or did you did. did you kind of like like did did you. notice that happening you're like yeah. this isn't good I stopped on Instagram. one month ago wow because I was just. like damn dude like every day I wake up. it's the first thing I check. let's say what are people saying about.

me today like yeah am I still okay oh. yeah like am I still okay Do my fans. still [ __ ] with me like uh do they like. the video I just dropped you know what I. mean like like did something come out in. the middle of the night of me picking my. nose or something yeah I can't go. anywhere or just or just like you know. like how are my stats doing or but even. more specifically like like it started. actually when I ran when I dropped Alex. Jones interview and everyone was like. why would you platform Emoji platform. and then people other people were like. you're a [ __ ] G for giving this guy a. voice and I was like I can't deal with. this I just want to like make cool stuff. and I I still check YouTube comments and.

stuff like that but I'm I'm not trying. to like be constantly engaged in my own. feedback loop it's so unhealthy dude. yeah it's scary it puts you at the. center of the universe even if you're no. matter what level you're at you could be. a small level dude but if every day. you're engaging with people who love or. hate you and I don't have much hate I. have a lot of love but that makes hate. stick out so much more you know it's. like I could see like a thousand. positive comments and then if I see one. negative comment like those words are. like etched into my brain like the whole.

next two days it's so true I just can't. turn it off I'm like damn did I did I. [ __ ] up this interview like am I falling. off yeah I mean like and I just had to. stop dude it's amazing how that can. overwhelm how that can overwhelm. whatever all the proof that we would. think we have built into our system of. because of our own like lives you know. it's amazing man you know if you have a. high balance on your credit card it can. really be devilish. it can be that thing every month you're. throwing money away throwing it down to.

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it's Brave to give to have guys on that. are different you know like yeah we get. pitch guys sometimes or or girls and I'm. like I don't know but then that's the. part where I need to lean in and say Yes. I want to have to talk because I want to. be able to share some of my truth and. and or and hear something different you. know yeah I think I think it's you do a. great job of of being in that space do. you feel like you ever go to a place. just to pick on a group never not. anymore I mean I like when I think when.

I first started there was a lot of low. hanging fruit but I developed a respect. for interview subjects pretty quickly I. mean there's some groups that I it's. clear from you know how I'm talking to. them that I I'm trying to sort of poke. holes in what they're saying but no I. don't go try to pick on people you know. if anything I try to understand people. yeah you know because picking on people. is really easy like anything that. Society sees is weird like furries or. flat earthers it's very easy to show up. point fingers make fun them ask them. weird questions but when you ask the why.

or how did you end up like this is when. it gets really interesting because you. get to just follow that why infinitely. until you get to the core of what drove. them to The Fringe and that's the [ __ ]. that fascinates me yeah because it's. always the same. what is it just Community. loneliness isolation. being ostracized by the traditional. group that they were around. online Echo Chambers loneliness personal. failure personal aspirations. common themes like old school [ __ ].

um yeah those are tropes that have been. around forever huh yeah that's what it. comes back to what does tropes mean does. that make any sense that makes sense all. right I'll take it oh it also comes back. to the Jews a lot really yeah because. they started it no like hella people. don't like Jews oh yeah Kanye was. talking about that. do you think that many people don't like. you. I think it's. I mean I think it's. because Woody Kanye they were getting on. Kanye. I mean he's been saying some horrible. [ __ ] yeah you know that Kanye [ __ ] is.

sad but do you think people should just. be up but should he be shut down from. saying stuff or he can just say I guess. people are going to say whatever they. want if he says I'm about to go Defcon 3. on the Jews and he's telling his. audience that like. um yeah uh Hollywood music is totally. controlled by Jews like it is true that. there is like highly influential Jewish. people in Hollywood but it's controlled. by money people or capitalists of all. shapes and sizes and they're not loyal. to each other. but you know you think that that those. type that those that money people aren't.

loyal to each other I mean in a sense of. collaboration but [ __ ] they're all. trying to race to the top that's how. it's working and the idea that is some. sort of cohesion there it's not really. true I mean like there is collaboration. but like what Kanye is talking about is. being exploited by you know predatory uh. recording I mean uh uh record companies. and [ __ ] like that and labels that's a. real thing the media and be invading his. life you know TMZ showing him to his. house at three o'clock in the morning. and asking him about his mental health.

like every element of his private life. being publicized by media Outlets that's. a real thing right and so it's like he's. so close to talking about that but then. he is obviously someone in his ear being. like it's it's all about the Jews and. he's like and then my Jewish personal. trainer it's it's sad a lot of people. don't even know that they're being. anti-semitic and I also think the phrase. anti-semitic gets so overused yeah. people say it's tough because you can't. even sometimes it feels you can't even. say the word Jew or Jewish and you're. sudden like this person's anti-semitic. it's like well you could say black or.

white or Christian or you know Muslims. or Slims some people call them yeah. but I'm just saying conspiracy thought. the idea that like every anomaly and. everything that goes a little bit weird. is not a result of human error it's a. calculated deep State plot every sort of. loophole there's loopholes in everyone's. reporting and everything has everything. goes wrong people think the CIA is doing. all this crazy [ __ ] they tried to kill. Castro and Cuba like 45 times the CIA.

can't pull off anything correctly our. government can't do anything right yeah. yet somehow people think they're capable. of these massive like mind control. conspiracies I was like The Wider the. roads look like that. I just don't get how people think that. that this all-powerful deep State can. manipulate and control the entire planet. yeah that's true if you can't even get. me from like Saint George to El Paso. yeah then how are you gonna get me from. like uh the aliens to. um you know to the Octagon right people. are bad at secrets too man they have.

people are bad at secrets that's a good. point I always think that a lot about. Secrets like why if somebody knew. something on their deathbed why are they. going to hold on to it especially. anymore I could see 50 years ago. when there was this more like loyalism. to America too like we are this thing. like people I felt like had bought into. like we are this text this thread this. woven blanket but now it seems like we. are. the like P that's that's disappearing. yeah like if they told Trump about the.

aliens. he would tell in a half hour he wouldn't. [ __ ] tell us yeah he'd be like I will. not be you know a puppet of the CIA yeah. and there's a spacecraft below the White. House. it's been there for 30 years it's not. what he sounds like right that's how he. would say it yeah it is yeah totally. true but and that's why I don't think. they could get all these pilots and. people that have died over the years. that I don't think they could get any of. those people to keep a secret anymore do. you think no somebody would make a tick. tock at a half hour before they're dead.

like my dad just told me this yeah it'll. be the kids of these uh Area 51 people. yeah we're like so my dad just dropped. the bomb on me like all that [ __ ]. Area 51 is so sick dude yeah have you. been over there I tried to go I went to. the raid of Area 51 in 2019 one of my. first I think I remember that things. and it was a letdown huh the only guy. who got arrested was this like recently. divorced father of three who was in like. a he was sleeping in the back of his. Subaru next to our RV and he was like. they're [ __ ] in there and I'm going. and he tried to storm it by himself and.

he got like you know. machine guns in his face wow yeah. dang do you think did you get the. feeling when you were there that they're. holding something no I think they're. just you know experimenting with drones. why would it be Area 51 like there's. merch along the whole highway saying. those aliens there yeah they would have. moved him by now. through a different black box site. do you feel like we've had a lot of. encounters and oh yeah I feel like we've. had few a lot dude. totally.

do you feel like that there are alien. figures amongst us that they have that. kind of technology to put people amongst. us that are actually beings from other. planets or worlds yeah I mean like you. ever looked into like the eyes of like a. like a Nordic dude. like a six foot seven. like a viking looking person cold blue. maybe six four maybe. that's evidence right there.

yeah I gotta look deeper next time I. think I didn't I guess I didn't look. that deeply joke there's pretty much all. alien conspiracy theorists such as Bob. Brown in Nevada think that people from. Norway are aliens oh really or that they. possess some sort of reptilian or um old. school lumerian DNA wow which gives them. that sort of uh look that iridescent and. also the architectural capability. um. Ikea. yeah you want to follow the uh. the directions or whatever yeah you know.

yeah damn. well I think sometimes that aliens come. here I think we are like aliens Advanced. far past us right like even if you see. us now we're becoming like Meeker. figures we only use our brains you see. an alien it's like just the brain looks. active the body just looks like this. dormant sort of like non-genital no tits. even anymore never just like the body. seems very like you don't notice it it's. just that kind of like diamond oval head. with the big eyes so there's a lot of.

brain activity thinking yeah that's what. I feel like. so aliens they've moved off here a long. time ago I think they come by every now. and then to see like the plant like it's. almost like if your parents took you. like some shitty Water Park it's like a. poor poor alien families no offense yeah. but if Airline family's real poor then. they'll like or they didn't get tickets. to like the cool. planet to go see yeah then they stopped. the kid's like what the [ __ ] we're over. here yeah this place is weird as [ __ ]. yeah this place sucks yeah I see the. capital Riot Will Smith punching Chris.

Rock yeah people are [ __ ] [ __ ] let's. get up out of here yes that's what I. think happens all the time some shitty. dad tries to bring his kids here and his. wife here to save their [ __ ] family. or to do yeah and he didn't plan ahead. and the kids likes to get the [ __ ] out. of here they land at Talladega race. weekend they're like what the [ __ ] uh no. but I would think the aliens would. actually be on a smaller level like on. microbial small level so they can you. know kind of look at us like they could. be like cell sized you know condensed. because they don't want to be identified. everyone assumes though he's like.

gargantuan Cthulhu looking District nine. creatures were gonna come down. and like scare the [ __ ] out of us but. why they always look like shrimp in the. movies you know like giant lobsters yeah. I think they're really like floating. through the air like well dust particles. be like hey you know what I'm saying. dude that's more of a Vibe too and a. dust particle when you watch them how. they move they move like alien vessels a. lot of times they move with purpose yeah. that purposeful dust homie for real damn. that's almost what we are as humans.

uh-huh we're [ __ ] we think we're. purposeful dust that's a fact damn bro. um when you went when you go into some. places do you ever have do you have a. lot of fear obviously I you know I. understand now from like you're growing. up and stuff like that and some of your. energy like. um like I remember from my dad my dad. would sell like do like credit card. signups at colleges and stuff you know. yeah when I was a kid and so uh we'd. roll over there and like we'd get all. this [ __ ] out and like you know he's 78. years old he's signing people up and I.

would get up on the table and bark at. college kids going by to get them to. come and sign up and they get like a. free hat or something that's fun that. says like Chase Bank you know something. it's like a Frisbee now it would be cool. back then it was horrible for sure but. now it would be a fire hat and uh. so I could see where you being in your. environments growing up and like having. like um interaction with people yeah. where it makes you fit into your world. now real comfortably are there places. you've got in that make you have made. you kind of fearful or scared like.

honestly not really because like with. the camera rolling people aren't really. going to test you I think that like. the most on Earth I've ever been was. like I was uh I wasn't trying to do SEC. games for a while so like I was at the. roll Tide I was at the Auburn Roll Tide. game in Tuscaloosa so a home game for. Alabama Alabama lost a home game. and so like people were fighting in the. streets like you know you know how it. goes oh yeah college football in the. south is a real serious thing I'm. watching 50 60 year old dudes who you.

know were in there for in France four. years ago Rumble out old beefs yeah in. front of the Waffle House of Tuscaloosa. I'm like man this is tough and people. when people were fighting right in front. of you my first thought is I want to. interview them while they're fighting. right you know so I want to be like hey. what's going on how'd this start and. then they would feed what I mean so I. mean we had a couple situations in. Tuscaloosa where people would try to. take our cameras and like who the [ __ ]. are you guys and we're like uh YouTubers. like get the [ __ ] out of our party you. know also they're very comfortable with. violence at Southern schools yeah.

there's not really consequences for like. big brawls at schools in the south at. just in fraternity environments like. there would be on a regular Street. anywhere else yeah I think Southern. Culture does it's more like uh. especially in the South you're looking. at more like uh fight outside of the bar. yeah it's like Australians yeah you know. it's just like yeah they settle the. score after yeah it's like a bunch of. baked bean Australians kind of literally. and no one's called the cops really and. they kind of let things happen right. so like you know that's an only place. frats is probably the worst place for me.

to film dude it's funny when I remember. growing yeah France is a weird energy. because it's also like. but then if they like you and they know. who you are then it is a different. energy can be different unless you test. that one dude who doesn't know yeah. that sometimes can be weird this was. like when we were pretty like lesser. known. so it was a lot scarier yeah probably. now if I were to like message some frat. in advance and being like I'm coming. back to uh Ole Miss maybe they'd be like. oh we're gonna show you the best party.

ever yeah. um what about I saw you that you went. into oh block you went into like Chicago. and they have like a lot of like is that. one of the areas where they have a lot. of crime where they've had a lot of crop. violence yeah wow I wasn't scared there. or anything because like you know they. just took good care of us also nobody. wants to be perceived that way in media. so they're going to go above and beyond. to make sure that everyone knows that. like when I got to oblock everyone knew. that I was coming. and they were just like hey good to meet. you we checked your stuff out. welcome yeah that's interesting yeah.

there you go right there dude that's. fire yeah I would say when they say the. hood or whatever is probably the least. scary place to film wow you know because. your intention is clear you know you're. a white guy with a camera crew it's like. everyone knows what that is nothing's. gonna happen to you that's a good point. where there's more commonality. there's more uh potential for violence. as a journalist. you know what I mean it's the classic. thing of like Louis Thoreau from England. yeah when he did his weird weekend.

series him being British as an outsider. I think gave him a pass to kind of come. in and be more confrontational whereas. like I'm more likely to be in a violent. situation with someone who is a similar. looks like me and is in a similar age. range to me because they kind of feel. like oh it's more like buddy buddy like. broed out I haven't seen it with fans. like if any frat age white fan will come. up and just bear hug the [ __ ] out of me. you know they're just less of a barrier. whereas like anyone older or younger. will be a little bit more cautious or in. a different socio-economic place.

that's interesting yeah it's interesting. how some fans interact or some. supporters of you will interact yeah. like the other day at the airport a guy. was just yelling at me like do but it. was like we knew each other but we. didn't know each other yeah but it was. like and he kept looking at me like I. should have acted a certain way but I. didn't really know how to like yeah it's. interesting how different people's. perceptions of running across somebody. that they've seen before yeah I think. for you too because you podcast like. people it's more parasocial because they. feel like they've spent so much time. with oh yeah because they get off work.

they're driving home or whatever they're. listening to you like you're pretty much. there in the car with them they're. laughing along with you yeah or they're. laughing along with us like right now. you know yeah if somebody says I listen. to the podcast I immediately go into a. different place with them as well as. opposed to someone saying I saw your. stand-up special or somebody just saying. uh hey man I saw you on Tick Tock or I. saw you on this or that because Tick. Tock uh you know people have cut up I. think we're almost at like a billion. interact views on Tick Tock right for. the for just my name hashtag.

so kind of cool but also like I didn't. create probably most of those 90 of that. yeah other people made stuff and put it. out there yeah so it's kind of weird so. it's like you get put out there in a way. you don't even want to be maybe put out. there yeah like it's still your stuff. they're cutting up yeah but it's just. kind of interesting it's like. they can kind of shape whatever you know. and then. people can see you more maybe than you. wanted to be seen I don't know yeah and.

you give people a lot of yourself you. know it's interesting you have to though. I feel like the comedian land's a bit. different and I remember when I first. came out to LA like I went on your. podcast and I went on some other. comedians podcast and I was like damn. your guy's job is hard shout out to you. guys I don't know how you come up with. all this [ __ ] all the time really you. just you just have to have this like. verbose Gift of Gab to just spice up. because I'm sure like for example you. probably have told a lot of the same. stories oh yeah and but you have to come. with that sort of original energy. it was like when you ask me about like. the hitchhiking story like I would have.

told it like funnier if I had nothing 20. times yeah but I feel like you guys have. to have this almost like a respawning. ability that is just like superhuman. yeah I think it be doing it with people. helps more yeah you know that's why even. like right when you walked in I really. felt like I lit up on the inside because. I was like oh man I get to talk with. someone today right and so that's it is. more it's nicer sometimes than just. talking about myself. um you know I find a lot of people like. will send in calls to podcasts like.

there's a lot of guys out there. struggling these days yeah a lot of. people are are trying to figure out what. you know it's a weird time to be human. do you think that yeah definitely. what do you mean by that though I feel. like as we're switching more into like. uh putting more of our feelings and. everything in our. intentions and everything were so. reliant on media yeah and and uh just. human interaction has kind of taking a. back seat yeah um but it's also hasn't. so it's this weird.

like. this weird thing because we're almost. more interactive than ever yeah but it's. not very real. it is but it's like we're almost. transitioning yeah it's it's it kind of. sucks that's why I've tapped out from it. I'm trying to reverse engineer in my own. life like I've like because I had to use. Instagram in these platforms I'm sure. you did too to get to where I am now. yeah but I've crossed this threshold. where it's like I don't need it anymore. you know what I mean like like you you. probably do either too I mean people are.

going to watch your podcast and they're. going to watch your specials regardless. of if you have to post stories or. whatever I mean I'm sure it helps but. it's like once you're past that point. I'm not gonna hate on social media or. anything like that's yeah it's weird if. you got me to where I'm at you know but. like I'm gonna tap out from it like. because my human interactions have been. low especially in the past two years. yeah like dude it's like. my real friends like I don't know I need. more real real friends not just like. cool online friends but like real homies.

yeah not a female and it gets addictive. though too that's another thing about it. like I almost wonder why did they let us. have phones because they're so addictive. it's like is it safe it's almost like a. cigarette it's like yeah at a certain. point where we realize this is this has. ruined us totally and Instagram is. low-key like kind of pornographic too. you know what I mean like a social like. a like a adrenaline porn or something no. like it literally is oh yeah I see them. tits on there or something no like like. a lot of my friends like I look at their.

feeds and it's just like attractive. women attractive men just like. constantly and I'm like damn that must. be kind of weird for you and that's all. you're influences like you're like going. on your phone and just like scrolling. through like people you think are like. super bomb all the time like oh yeah. kind of rots your brain a little bit. like you know you're going through your. day and you're like you bet they look. amazing they look amazing yeah amazing. oh that's the homie I'm missing out I'm. missing out this person looks good I'm. like dude that that sucks yeah cause the. second you go back to your regular world. when you take that away from your eyes. and you look at your regular World your. regular world doesn't stand a chance.

right really and it's designed like that. right you know right that's the part I. think people don't realize man we don't. realize that there are these. shape-shifting goons Jews you know what. I'm talking about. uh in the distance who are you know but. but that's uh we don't realize that a. lot of that has been. I you know it's it's been I mean they. have got us down to an algorithm Jordan. Peterson talks about that it's like we. can't the algorithm is so strong if you. want to still own yourself you have to.

almost come to you have to come to your. own rescue man yeah you do and an. algorithm for everything and people only. realize when they're in it like even. Jordan Pearson talking about that he's. also got an algorithm oh yeah you know. what I mean and once you if you watch. one Jordan Peterson video You're Gonna. they're gonna you're gonna see him every. day and the same goes for uh Warren. Peterson cookbook yeah lobster for an. experiment you know the mob boss Michael. Francis easy yes I watched one Vlad TV. interview with Michael Francis and I'm. like let me watch four of these dude my. phone was like a mafia phone for like a.

week every time I went there it's like. send me the bull describes his first hit. you know what I mean and it's just like. best soprano scenes you know Goodfellas. intro and I'm dude I'm watching this. [ __ ] all day you know I'm like La Costa. Nostra over here on my phone for a. [ __ ] week and you know I start. talking like these dudes. no I start talking to my homie he's. about the mafia my guy Evan's like dude. stop talking about the mop I'm like what. you know I'm like no but it's crazy the. Code of Silence is crazy dude blood and. blood out you know but not all Sicilians.

are bad you know Evan's like stop saying. this [ __ ] let's talk about something. else and I'm like I realized you know. all moments of privacy which should have. been me time to think about my life I. was thinking about La Costa Nostra wow. and that's not right no one should think. about the mob for more than like an hour. a week oh yeah I think and even that. seemed like a lot you know especially if. it's not a recipe coming really shortly. after the thoughts yeah you think the. mob is still around if they are first of. all I noticed I noticed for a fact they. do a lot of just trash hauling is what.

they do now yeah the mob has severely. been reduced you don't think they're. walking into like Stumptown Coffee in. Brooklyn breaking kneecaps like give me. five cents off this latte I think. they're like The Comedy Central. basically they're like Comedy Central. like they just [ __ ] didn't get on. social media and they [ __ ] fell apart. yeah they should have adapted oh I had. like a dope ass like cartel style. branding campaign yeah instead they. started like a Jordan Clepper show or. something and it [ __ ] tanked and they. never got their feedback under them.

um let's bring them back dude yeah I. mean I I don't know but the mafia I. would love to see him back yeah I would. love a [ __ ] Italian to just beat and. hit me with a bat when I'm going for a. job oh yeah. because here's one thing I realized if. somebody walked up to me and punched me. for no reason right but they said you. know what that's for. I would find some I would find a reason. in my head why yeah and I'm like damn. okay. I think you could do that to anybody. what do you think would be the first.

thing that would come to mind. um. probably. stealing something when I was younger. maybe yeah or you know you know bad sex. maybe yeah they get me drive all the way. over there for that bad sex or my you. know you made my sister come over for. that bad sex yeah. you were heavy into stealing when you. were younger yeah I like to have stuff. man and I tell people I'd have their. stuff on and tell them I didn't have it. you know like retail yeah and even.

undergarments men's undergarments yeah. you've came a long way man yeah thanks. man I you know I feel yeah at least now. I can afford my own stuff hands would. probably send you a pack. they're gonna see this shout out to. Haynes um I want to know about your. movie before you go man I want to know a. little bit more about it yeah man ask. away uh what can we look forward to. obviously there's some parts of it that. are what.

there's parts of the movie that I'm. going to be screening at the upcoming. tour okay that's a fact I'm gonna scream. like some sick at the HBO just finally. agreed to let me show some scenes okay. HBO's been awesome to work with really. yeah dude wow sick shout out to Nina at. HBO it's been fun dude like working with. the company that's like keeps it real. and you know it's HBO and especially you. came you had some bat you had bad. experiences with that before right hell. yeah dude I remember you were in. right after I met you through uh with. king and the sting you that's when you.

got into the dispute with your own. organization yeah yeah that was a. horrible thing yeah but you know I'm. happy that uh it ended in like a. cataclysmic [ __ ] gnarly way because I. had to go independent like I had to. start channel five right because I had. like the fire under my ass being like. you know you got [ __ ] over like. respawn kill it like start your own. thing that thing's gonna be bigger you. know I feel like if I didn't have that. dramatic split from the August no breaks. parent company I'd probably would have. just drifted into like comedic obscurity.

honestly what do you what was a moment. in there what was some more of that tell. me about that so because other people. this happened this happens to people a. lot where people you know their con the. deal isn't right or they don't feel like. if they leave something that they're. still going to be able to survive yeah. there's just very like low regulation of. like the Instagram and Tick Tock. management uh world it's not like. filming you know acting and [ __ ] where. you have guilds and unions like you can. get pimped you can get the blood pimped. out of You by someone to manage as. influencers there's no rules or. regulations it's like the wild west I.

there's been contracts much worse than. mine but I had what they call a 360 deal. they talk about it a lot in rap music. you know it's a full management contract. so that means I can't acquire any money. or get any if I get a sponsorship deal. it runs through the parent company I. every stream of Revenue that it's to. Andrew Callahan will have to be. processed by the parent company and. they'll give me 20 of that profit after. expenses are recouped so it's a shitty. deal yeah uh it was good at first. because they gave me 45k a year bought. me an RV I thought I was in heaven but.

there was no show yet right as the show. got bigger and bigger you know we're. getting I see that we're making like so. much on patreon every month and through. merch yeah and I'm like I want more. money than I'm getting right now I'm. getting yeah I deserve more I'm getting. paid literally the salary of a manager. raising canes and like shout out to them. and I'm like you know like they work. hard they're not even a sponsor. sorry go on and then like. man.

yeah so that happened it happens to. people but it ended up making you didn't. fold though yeah I mean so back to it I. mean the big lesson from that whole [ __ ]. is like read your contracts and uh know. what real money looks like you know. because before you start you know really. succeeding in media 45k a year seems. like a great deal. but then in the world of adults that's. like a below standard salary right but. you just don't know that because you're. young as [ __ ] but you were 21. I was. just interning for Seattle weekly and. running for my college newspaper for. free so it's like anyways.

somewhere right right before Augusto. breaks kind of tagged uh we signed a. deal to make a movie with Tim and Eric's. company absolutely and then Jonah Hill's. company strong baby lashed on to it and. it became this whole like a lot of chefs. in the kitchen making this uh the movie. is about the 2020 election and uh the. events that led up to the capital Riot. and the aftermath so we're making this. movie I don't remember I'm in the South. Philly Walmart in this RV we're out of. propane so there's no heat it's 21.

degrees and I'm getting these emails. from the August no breaks parent company. that are like we need you to produce two. pieces of patreon content or we're gonna. fire you guys. and this is while I'm making a movie and. I'm like I don't have time to do that. I'm I'm freezing it was horrible and so. I kind of refused you know I asked for. more money I said okay I'll work a. second job now just give me more than 20. of the profit share they're like nah. we're keeping you at 20 they fired Nick. and Evan just to make a statement after. I asked them for more bread and those.

are your Associates yeah still they. they're partners and owners of channel. five right and then like yeah dude it. just got so bad they were just being. like and they got this thing in the mail. my La house it was like if you don't. make a video for orgasm Breaks by the. end of the month. you're fired in the mail what are they. are they. where they send it from the past do they. travel back in time. what's going on but looking back on it I. mean I'm like I said I'm glad it fell. apart I don't have really negative. feelings towards any of those guys yeah.

you know I was I was always supposed to. be independent yeah you know you always. have been probably really in your own. way yeah for sure you like being. it seems like you like having control. over what you put out yeah in a way I. almost feel bad for those guys because. they made such a bad business decision. right well at first they made a great. business because they saw the value in. you yeah so that's almost this that's. cool yeah but then they chose to not do.

it fairly yeah because I would have kept. working for Augusta breaks like the show. would have been going right now if they. would have just been like Andrew wants. more money. sure give it to him but I remember the. dude said to me we have a bunch of. Connections in the comedy World we'll be. fine we're gonna replace you hmm and I. was like bro I do the editing it's my. show it's like my concept they actually. created a bunch of CopyCat pages that. are active right now with my exact Style. with other comedians hosting it it's. just a shameful Endeavor but you know.

I don't know sometimes you take L's and. you just got to keep it pushing but I. think they should have just left my. formula alone. yeah dude I mean if you put a bunch of. L's together bruh. you got a bunch of L's but you how can. you might be doing better yeah but hey. man shout out to those guys like they. put me on it first you know it's a good. attitude to have man I try not to have. any I just try to like not be negative. about [ __ ] you know even though it's. easy to be especially when you like got.

kind of burned like that yeah but once. you. once you start being negative people. start being negative back I know it's. basic but like even with my old block. video you know like I had. like. I showed two other like journalists in. that maybe not in like the best light. you know because I was doing like a sort. of expose about like what I saw as like. the exploitation of like drill music by. like media members who run like an. interview cycle based upon like fact.

checking someone's Street Credibility. okay for clicks and Views I talked about. that actually feels real life violence. because. it kind of breaks down the inner. workings of gang beef to like the. general listening public. and just makes people like not only fans. of the music but fans are like the. ganglore Behind the Music which you know. what I'm saying oh interesting no I know. what you're saying I just I'm trying to. imagine how a channel would do something. like that basically like um uh. drill music is like completely full of.

like dissing people's dead family. members dissing dead enemies there's a. whole gang lore behind every drill scene. whether it be Jacksonville Philadelphia. Chicago with specific characters and. legends and people like that but the. general YouTube public didn't know about. what they were saying until like a. second industry of uh. you know people who I call gang gossip. YouTubers ran like a news circuit based. upon like breaking [ __ ] down ah you know.

and like that sort of exposed the inner. workings of of like Chicago's gang. conflict to like the just greater. civilian public. stoke the Flames of it made it worse is. that helpful when they do that or no I. think that uh it's just click bait I. think that at its best like there's some. people who do it really well like this. one guy um trapped Laura Ross he does. like a really good job at like you know. breaking down sort of the insanity and. like the specifics of certain conflicts. that should people should know about you.

know because there's people dying about. like the hundreds here like in. Jacksonville right but I think that when. it's a a gossip-based click cycle like. you'll never guess what gang this. rapper's from. you know that to me is whack right but. what I was saying is. in the whole block video I interviewed. two dudes who were in that world and I. just felt like while I do have my. problems with like how they use their. platform to a certain degree. it felt bad. coming at anyone I don't want to do it. again you know like just putting the and.

putting any negativity in the world like. I felt it kind of come back towards me. when they had their responses and then. people were and I was just like right I. don't want to start any beef with any. other media members like [ __ ] all that. like you know yeah. yeah it's tough to navigate because. sometimes people will steal like we'll. borrow your [ __ ] or do something like. that too and you're like man this is. [ __ ] up it's like do I wanna you know. like it's like do I call this out like. there's a clothing company that like. totally copied a shirt that I made right. like a merch and it was like do I bring.

this up or is that just gonna bring more. attention to them you know yeah it's. tough to navigate sometimes stuff like. that I know that's a different. comparison yeah. um but it's like once you start calling. people out for [ __ ] and then all of a. sudden you're susceptible because people. now that you've stooped that level of. like right internet beef people start. realizing it's an opportunity to. capitalize on you and they start. internet beefing with you because they. know that you play that game now right. and I just don't want to do it I stand. behind my coverage of oh block but it's. just like I don't know is it scary to. see like you know you get environments.

like that where there's a lot of. violence you know a lot of like growing. up like two of my closest black friends. from growing up both got killed right. and um by other black guys growing up. there's just a lot of like VI you know. there's a there's a lot of black young. men killed you know there's a lot of. violence in that Community yeah you see. a lot of like the rap music and stuff. and you know I love I love the music but. is it I wonder sometimes I find like by. listening to his music am I just. perpetuating part of this thing well the.

music is very much a part of the. circumstances and like a reflection of. the environment and the culture creates. it the real villain in the story of the. mainstream proliferation of drill music. is the record labels who are [ __ ]. pushing this [ __ ] and like owning the. Masters to mainstream hits about like. basically doing mass shootings you know. so as a listener man it sounds dope no. you're not perpetuating it the music. sounds tight they could be talking about. whatever right but it's the it's the. record labels that you know make kids. bop versions of songs.

and [ __ ] like that you know to me I felt. like when I do something again if I ever. step back into the realm of covering. drill music I I feel like the record. labels and the people who control and. incentivize that or they're missing uh. sort of Investigation the missing piece. to my investigation investigative. reporting you know. do you feel like you're like you bow. your reporting down to anything like you. there's like there's angles you're. afraid to go to or things you won't talk. about like it's hard to stay.

neutral. yeah I mean I'll talk about whatever but. there's certain issues that I take more. seriously than others it's hard to stay. out of the pocket of. big business too you know as you grow. yeah because they'll take your clips and. they'll run them if it is with their. agenda you know I mean or they could. start to make you look a certain way. like this guy does this or you know yeah. they have just a lot of power out there. especially when you start to succeed and. that's why I wanted to get off social. media because it's like I remember one. time I was like out in a nice restaurant.

and like I had like I had got shots for. everybody and someone took a picture of. me and they were like I see where our. patreon Ray's going oh wow you know and. [ __ ] like that where I'm just like bro. like I just like let me enjoy my life to. a degree like I'm supporting my entire. family now basically you know what I. mean so it's like I don't know man. success is hella weird. because I never thought I'd be someone. who was successful and it comes with a. whole different responsibility and it's. harder to make real friends it's scary. kind of isn't it it's hella scary. especially when you're young you know. and you you've popped off when you're.

young too yeah so you know what it's. like it's like damn. like I have less friends than ever you. know but the friends that I do have are. really strong yeah but like I can't be. around it and your own ego I got scared. of my own ego too because you know. feeling like I had I was at a loss you. know of like uh attention or affection. growing up and I was like oh this is. important you know like this specific. part of it you know that can be scary. yeah it's all interesting I think people. look for like uh examples of ego. exaggeration too to be like oh this.

guy's super full of himself because he. did this yeah like once you succeed. people look for a villain Arc to be like. oh he used to be dope but you know now. he's at Soho house and he's going to. Equinox and paying for hot stone. massages and I just saw him with airpods. in yeah you know [ __ ] that guy with a. sellout you know and like that's a real. narrative especially you know I'm. someone who like cares about you know. issues of like racial Justice and [ __ ]. yeah so it's like that's not that. compatible with having money and my goal. is not to have money but it's like.

when you succeed people kind of know. what you're doing you're doing well and. like every time I sell merch which is. like the money goes right back into. funding channel five but everyone's just. like have fun like grifting or whatever. I'm just like whatever people want to. support you people want to have your. stuff they want to be like oh I like. this this is something cool I used to. think about that we try to sell merch at. a fair price and we try to do the best. that we can and at a certain point you. can spend all day I can sit there and be. like a guy who's handling all my merch. stuff or merch issues but then I'm not.

even creating anything that people want. or even honoring Myself by being CR it's. like there's only so many wars you can. fight you know dude for sure and that's. why I'm just like chilling on the. chilling on the Instagram yeah good for. you man it's Brave and it's hard to do. yeah it's like vaping for your [ __ ]. uh ego yeah I'm one month off wow crazy. damn that's powerful dude I didn't know. that um yeah I'm not gonna believe I'm. not I'm not gonna make any public. statement being like screen time is bad.

for you the coolest thing to do is just. with withdraw on your own time because. the only thing labor than being addicted. to Instagram is being one of those. people who's like publicly against. Instagram yeah on Instagram yeah yeah on. Instagram being like I'm taking a break. from my mental recovery it's like oh are. you yeah thanks for letting us know dude. this isn't part of your long-term uh. Instagram plan is it taking a break from. my break then they'll come back and take. a break from the break oh that was so. refreshing great to see you guys again. how's it going it's been four days yeah. for sure um what about the love life man. do you do you envision yourself are you.

dating is there anything like that for. you do you like uh like affection yeah. for sure it's just hard to navigate in. this the position that I'm in you know. yeah like I'm like hyper um. not hyper critical but like I definitely. trust problems yeah because of like the. position that I'm in I feel like I'm. really paranoid about you know if. someone's like genuine or not. interesting and so that makes me like. not open up to people because I'm like. damn this sounds like a classic thing. but it's like would you be around.

if I don't have all this [ __ ] going on. if I wasn't like yeah doing cool stuff. and that extends like Beyond dating. that's just like all of social life but. I'm taking it slow like I have a lot on. my plate like I have this movie coming. out I have the tour working on a cartoon. I definitely have put the whole love. life thing in the back seat yeah until. I'm like satisfied with other stuff you. know because Love Can Crash environment. if you make awesome stuff that's forever. you know if you put your passion into a. project that's going to outlive you when.

also I noticed my passion my work can't. hurt me like at a level you know like my. work can't. my work is always I know exactly what. it's going to be I know the return is. going to give me. it can't affect me you know it can but. it's not going to have the same effect. as as a loving somebody or something. like that you know yeah anyway that's. kind of a [ __ ] big reach but it's not. going to go on your phone while you're. sleeping yeah yes yeah my job's not. going to go on my phone honestly yeah. yeah that's true also it's like I feel.

like if you do date people in this. position like they assume that you're. like hella Unfaithful when you're not oh. interesting you know what I mean like. yeah I think that's probably true a lot. of times if I meet a girl the first. thing you ever say is I bet you know. girls all over right and I can spend. like two days with someone like have the. best time yeah and they're like I'm just. one of many I'm like no no that's not. even true yeah like you have the best. like have like a honeymoon basically. yeah the last thing they say is like all. right I'll see you in a month never I'm.

like man. yeah they do but I guess that's an. accurate thing for somebody if you're. just kind of also we pass through town. guys like us pass through town you know. yeah and we're tit grifters you know and. that is something and some of that's. first of all okay we've also created. this Ambiance in the world like it's not. like I get a lot of gems from women like. let's [ __ ] let me see that penis hole no. oh I swear okay dude the stuff I gotten. let me see that dick hole or whatever.

you know just crazy. I I like what I didn't even so it's like. there's women out there trying to get. you to stop by as well yeah and there's. nothing inhuman about it I've seen I've. been at the zoo before animal walk. across the cage [ __ ] another animal I. don't even know them yeah or her they'd. even look yeah and then they go back. dude they go back to whatever the dog. food or whatever they give them a little. dog food you notice that at the zoo I. didn't know that man it's like yeah. every like everything eats dog food yeah.

I try to avoid like um doing that type. of thing though like for tour like when. I'm on tour I just like to work finish. the show do the meet and greet and just. keep it pushing yeah I gotta watch the. ego too you know and there's no like. worse way there's no worse thing for. your ego than like being surrounded by. surrounding yourself with like fans or. people in your DMs. like saying [ __ ] like that yeah you know. because you just develop a complex where. I I haven't developed it but my biggest.

fear is thinking that I'm better than. other people or that I have more value. than just random garbage man or. something well and also in your ego can. grow without you even knowing it that's. what's even scary yeah the ego like a. damn Moss bro yeah that thing it grows. at night yeah also the weirdest [ __ ] is. like in the regular world people are. attracted to like. being like athletic I'm like funny. whereas if like in the media world or in. like the LA world it's like who you know.

and stuff yeah. yeah it's different man it's interesting. well you're certainly on a journey bro. and I appreciate you coming in and just. kind of spending some time with us and. just you know getting to know you better. man and and learn about kind of some of. the stuff that's made you tick and yeah. dude damn yeah the sky's the limit dude. um. one last question do you think about. like uh you're do you think that there's. still good journalism out there oh so. much man. that's one comment that I get on my. videos that I don't like is people.

always say the last journalist or. something like that like no man I'm. heavily inspired by Louis Thoreau by. Daily Show correspondents by like Sasha. Baron Cohen people I'm you know Vice. when I was in high school was the [ __ ]. yeah if I was so far when it first came. out yeah I got bought the old school. days when it was like like the. interviews with General butt naked in. Liberia yeah so you're like oh my God. like I want to be doing stuff like this. I only hope that I can create and. Inspire like more journalists more. civilian independent journalists to go.

out there and get like the real take but. I feel like I watch interviews that are. dope all the time. I watch interviews all day on YouTube. and I'm just loling dang that's cool but. the hard part is like you know inter. there's too many interviews now yeah do. you feel that way yeah yeah whereas. we're doing an interview we're saying it. yeah like I'm saying stick this too much. oh yeah yeah I TR I try less and less I. realize more I just want to have a chat. yeah there's just too many like on. YouTube like maybe it's an algorithm. thing but it's like it's definitely an.

algorithm thing but nah man I mean I I. want to do this forever yeah and I'm not. mad at anyone. yeah I'm curious bro I'm curious to see. where. yeah I'm curious to see where you where. you take it man you're so creative and. it's fun it's fun to listen to and it's. fun to learn and and see what you're. doing man I appreciate your time Andrew. yeah dude it's been sick being on I like. the it's just you and me you know what I. mean yeah I see why you like a more. one-on-one podcast Style. yeah it makes me feel more comfortable I.

can be myself I can try to learn more. about the person yeah. and yeah I don't know sometimes you go. through times in your life where you. feel like I need to evolve and I don't. know how to do that right now and so I. need to take a step back and see what do. I do yeah I wanted to ask you who's like. your dream uh podcast guest. um we had a little Boosie on I would. like to have him again so good dude yeah. I like Lucy man because he's so. he's so real and on.

uncut but also trying to figure [ __ ] out. you know you guys are just pure. Louisiana too bro yeah I love Boosie who. else dude there's a Senator John Kennedy. I think his name is from Louisiana no. what's his name. uh from Louisiana John Bel Edwards no. that guy that would be a terrible yeah. I think that's the Governor John Neely. candidate yeah there's this other dude. from Louisiana I want to get that dude. from Louisiana that does those crazy. videos if you're a criminal up in our. town oh I didn't know I thought it was. Florida that's Louisiana it's got to be.

Shreveport or some [ __ ] yeah this dude. says some wild she just like has great. sound bites I would love to sit and chat. with him that guy hates crime you can. look at him and just tell all types of. crime dude you park in the yellow he's. on your ass oh that's true he does that. he [ __ ] has the most he has that. whole monitor Vibe he does I can. literally picture a young him who else. is somebody I would love to really. interview man. um. man JJ Watt I think would be real. interesting.

um oh I wanted to interview mystical so. bad and he just got arrested again for. the same type of [ __ ] I know really. damn he just can't stop being a [ __ ]. bad man it that bro that broke my heart. because I was so I kept reaching out to. him I even dm'd him a couple times we've. been messaging and uh. and and he did then he got then he got. busted so if he ever gets hot I would. like to I would love to get to chat with. him how about NBA young boy would you do. that yeah be Fire It's A Hard One to get. I've been trying to get it for a long. time have you yeah he's hard yeah I was.

curious as to how you go about your. guest do you use publicist and reach out. to use just different Avenues personally. check in with people yeah yeah. Trey young I think it would be real cool. I'd like to get him from Atlanta Hawks. yeah that would be good he just seemed. like an interesting guy I gotta rewatch. your interview with Boosie man that's. was one of my favorite my favorite. podcast you've ever done it was fun man. we had to give we had to give him a huge. bag of weed and like uh a couple Grand. you know to show up that's not too bad. how much you need a couple ounces of. weed it was a no it was like this much. weed we could pound of weed yeah yeah it.

was It was a. [Laughter]. and the best was afterwards here we go. outside. he was dancing in the parking lot and he. opens up this SUV. two of these like red bone chicks get. out of there dude and uh. like one of his hair was like stuck in. the seatbelt thing but they've all been. there just smoking and partying have you.

seen how he asks his fans for random. [ __ ] on the road he's like who in. Atlanta has a Pontiac GT he's like I. need a Pontiac GT rental car with Note. with good tags and he's like email my. manager and like the next thing you know. it's some family like what up Boosie and. he's like appreciate it man oh you. should look up when you get home Boosie. asking fans for things on Instagram it's. like a 20 minute compilation I love that. man what are some groups you want to get. into man are there some outlier groups. you don't even know exist yet I'm sure.

uh the adult baby Community oh really or. they call it the age play Community. people who pretend to be babies you know. get caretakers to read their bedtime. stories some go as far as. getting their diaper changed and such. wow. I could see that man it's important. yeah that's a good one I interviewed an. adult baby at Folsom Street Fair in San. Francisco two weeks ago super cool dude. hmm you'll see it yeah he was just like. I had a terrible childhood didn't get to.

experience being a kid. and I just walks around in a diaper with. a binky damn that's pretty gangster. yeah there's some definitely unique. groups out there man I'm curious because. a lot of them we learn through you man. for real you know like my favorite part. on those jizz wizard dudes was when they. had the one dude that busted out like a. real. you know he had that Rorschach test and. the other dude just had that little jizz. on the paper you're talking about the. different coloration between will and. Brian Seaman on the paper yeah yeah. Brian's was extremely dark yeah like.

orange. like the minute Maidstone is disgusting. well I mean I want to say disgusting. Brian if you're watching this it was. more Halloween I don't think your. ejaculate is disgusting however I would. suggest you consult your primary care. physician as to why it's so discolored. it's pumpkin spice everything's pumpkin. like it's just that time of year too you. like how weird oh yeah what are you. gonna be I don't know I might do. something else it's your farmer or. something yeah you know take it pretty. easy what you got Michael Myers I'm just. gonna minion it really yeah just like. paint my whole body yellow on one of the. goggles and speak that whatever like.

hybrid of uh Spanish and Italian yeah. minions good man that's a great idea. actually yeah shout out to the minions. honestly that movie was fire as hell. it's uh that whole series is so great. man I went and saw Zach Bryan the other. night have you ever seen him no is he. involved in minions no he's just a. musician but it was awesome oh hell yeah. yeah it just reminded me how great it is. to go see live music. live anything this makes you feel you. know you're like oh this is and it. reminds your brain that you can do. different things you know sometimes you. don't get enough real input you know.

yeah yeah it's like you don't get enough. actual performance and they only you. know praise you for the one thing they. know you're good at but you feel you're. so funny. right but then you know you're an. amazing athlete and you're great at. [ __ ] listening to music but then my. brain forgets those other things so if I. got to go out and have real experiences. yeah you know people always ask say to. me which is hella weird huh they go how. do you find all these crazy ass people. and I'm like everyone is insane yeah you. know what I mean like. yeah bro I'm like dude are you what's.

the last time you talked to a person you. know people we got problems everyone's. got serious stuff going on you know. we're like in the we're like in The. Matrix we're out here we are man. freaking out here I'm happy to spend. time with you in the Matrix today Andrew. Callahan man best of luck on the tour. we'll put it in the link and everything. like that oh for real yeah dude this is. gonna be tight so cool I appreciate it. you weren't feeling well I appreciate. you making the time yeah man yeah hell. yeah hope to see everyone on tour man. yeah man I will come out when you're in. Nashville I'll come here for real yeah. National or L.A so.

we'll do it I'll be so sick thanks guys. [Music].