The Basement: Tim Hogan | Templar Knights, Atlantis, and the MANY Arks of the Covenant
Today we are sitting down with Tim. Hogan, Knights Templar Grandmaster, 32nd. Degree Mason, and a guy who was. initiated into the order at age 8. >> 32nd Degree? Uh, that's like getting a. DLC for Secret Society Simulator. >> Is that a real game? >> Yeah, not yet. Copyright me. Patent. pending. All rights reserved. >> Tim's family line runs deep in this. stuff. His great-grandfather, seven. generations back, was General Joseph. Warren, the man who initiated Paul. Rivere and helped organize the Boston.
Tea Party. His own father, the mayor of. Aurora, Colorado, was involved in. developing Denver International Airport. Yeah, that airport. >> The horse of death, the Nazi bunker, illicit people murals. Uh, finally, someone who knows what's under that. runway. >> Tim's written seven books on alchemy and. ancient mysteries. He leads expeditions. into Egypt where his group has private. access to places tourists never see. The. Sphinx enclosure, sealed chambers at. Dendera, even the Great Pyramid itself. where he conducts actual Templar.
initiations. >> Wow, that sounds like my peshy family. initiation when I became a maidfish. >> What happened during your initiation? >> I can't tell you that, human. I took an. Ome. >> Fair enough. Today, we're going deep. We'll cover the standard Templar. history, but then Tim's going to take us. into the secret history, the. archaeological digs under the Temple. Mount, six ancient arcs his order claims. to have recovered, a connection between. ancient Egypt and the Mayans, monatomic. gold as a superconductive power source,
and yes, he says the Templars possess. the bones of Jesus. This one gets wild. Tim is more than an encyclopedia. He's. an amazing storyteller. Let's go. downstairs. Tim, welcome. >> Thank you for having me, AJ. >> I'm so excited because, you know, I've. been a fan of yours for a long time. >> Well, I'm I'm been a fan of yours, too. So, I'm super excited to be here. I'm so. glad you're doing this this format.
>> It's um with all the stories that I. research, the people behind them are so. interesting that I thought it would be. fun to have them in here, and you were. one of those. When I was putting. together my next Templar episode, um, I. had a couple of drafts. I ran it by my. community and they said, "You need to. look into Tim Hogan." So, I started. listening to your interviews and I said, "I don't need to do any more research. This guy knows everything about the. Knights." So, encyclopedic knowledge. >> Yeah. Well, thank you. >> So, what I want to do is I want to get.
into your personal journey in the order, >> then to the fun stuff. So, we're talking. alchemy, ancient Egypt, Ark of the. Covenant. >> Yep. Anunnaki. >> Yep. >> Which I think we can connect. >> Of course. >> But let's start today with the mundane. >> Okay. >> With the cover story. >> Sure. >> Can you walk us through 118 to 1307? Just so. >> Yeah. Just general history. >> Just a general history. Then we then. we'll get into the real story. >> So, so according to standard historians, the the Templar order was founded in. 1118. There were nine knights started by.
Hudipain and Godfrey to St. Omar. uh two. French knights who uh had been involved. in um a number of different things, but. they ended up going down to Jerusalem. They got um uh by King Baldwin II gave. them uh property at uh near the Temple. Mount at an area that's now referred to. as King Solomon's stables. Mhm. >> And uh they for they set up an order.
extensively to protect pilgrims in the. holy land. So these nine knights were. supposed to protect all the pilgrims in. the holy land. So the for the first 20. years, this is what it was said they. were doing. Now this was more of a cover. story. They were actually doing digging. Uh they're doing what we would refer to. as archaeology. Now, >> well before we get there, hold on. >> Okay. Um cuz not everybody knows this. stuff.
>> Okay. You're right. >> So they're protecting pilgrims. Can you. just and very briefly because we want to. get to the good stuff. Explain the. commanderies how they accumulated. wealth. >> Yeah. So so what they would do is they. would set up these commandaries. throughout Europe and as well as in the. Holy Land. And really where they started. making money is they became a banking. system where if you were going to back. then you have to understand that. Christians would travel to Jerusalem in. the same way that Muslims would travel.
to Mecca today. Uh so it was like deemed. that once in your life you go to. Jerusalem and you see the holy places. where Jesus walked and where Moses was. and where King Solomon's temple was said. to be and uh you would you take this. pilgrimage. Well, it was very dangerous. to travel back then. I mean the the. world was full of ruffians and thieves. and and uh if you had any money on you, of course they were going to steal it.
So what the Templar order did is they. set up a thing where you could deposit. your money at the commander in let's say. London and you get a special note and. then when you arrived in Jerusalem you. could go to the commander in Jerusalem. present this note and they give you your. money back you know with a small fee. taken out right. >> and so that small fee you know added up. and this is really where the Templar. order developed its wealth and because. when they were created they didn't have. to answer to anybody but the pope.
It gave them a lot of freedom and a lot. of latitude to do a lot of things. including associating with other other. religious traditions and other cultures. that didn't exist in Europe. Uh I mean. uh as they went into the Holy Land there. there were groups like the Drews and the. Seabans and others that were translating. Greek and Roman texts and these hadn't. made their way into Europe yet. And so. by having these associations with the.
Templar order, the Templars were able to. gain knowledge that just wasn't. accessible at the time in Europe. And uh. they learned of traditions like. Pythagorean traditions and uh you know. the works of Plato and uh things that we. kind of take for granted now that just. was not available at the time. uh they also had to have associations. with Islamic groups that were already.
existing in the Holy Land at the time. And while they they later would get. dragged into having to to fight and. defend territories on behalf of the. church, that wasn't their main focus. Their main focus was actually. establishing connections with these. different traditions so they could gain. their knowledge and and bring that. knowledge back to Europe really to try. to get Europe out of the dark ages. They. believed that if they if they gain the.
technology and the philosophies of what. they believed was the pre-ivilization, the civilization before Noah. >> Don't don't don't do it yet. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Cuz you're going to get me excited. >> Okay. Okay. >> And as we get down there, if I you're. you're a brilliant storyteller, >> so if you see me almost stepping on a. punch line or stealing your thunder, slow me down. See, I'll get there. Okay. >> All right. But take us to 1307. They've.
accumulated wealth. What happened? >> So, they've accumulated all this wealth. The king of France at the time, Philip. the Fair, he needed money. He wanted to. set himself up as the new war king of. Europe. And he also wanted to control the. church. He had he had he had already uh. by some accounts poisoned one pope, assassinated one pope to try to get the. pope he wanted onto the throne. He. eventually got Clement V onto the.
throne. And then he he also owed a bunch. of money to the Templar order uh who. they had been loaning him money, >> you know, all along. uh but he needed. more money and he knew that they had. amassed a great fortune at the Paris. commandery. Uh so what he did was he in September of. 1307 he issued arrest warrants that were. to be implementated implemented on oc in.
October October 13th in fact Friday. October 13th 1307. uh to arrest the entire Templar order. and to bring them up on charges. uh with the hopes of then securing their. their wealth. Now, the Templar Order, they had spies. everywhere. They knew about this. They. set up a plan where Jack de Malay, who. was the Grandmaster of the Templar. Order, he kind of stayed behind in.
Paris. They they normally, you know, had. about 100,000 Templars in Paris. Uh they. most of them fled Paris. A few stayed. behind to appear as business as usual. >> because the Templars had a fleet. >> They had an entire fleet. Yeah. And so. the night before. uh on October 12th, 1307, the fleet. disappears. along with all the wealth of the Grand. Commander of Paris and Jack D. Malay is.
staying behind with a few hundred other. knights. Uh the arrest orders get. implemented on Friday, October 13th. They're rounded up. This is the origin. of the unlucky date of Friday the 13th. >> Yep. And uh and then they're tortured. for seven years. Uh I think Jack de. Malay thought that and by the way they. also wanted the pope wanted Pope Clement. the 5th wanted the Templar order to.
merge with their rival order which was. known as the Knights Hospital. The Knights Hospital later became the. Knights of Malta but that's a different. story. But the the Templar order. wouldn't do it. Jack Malay wouldn't do. it because they would have lost all of. their freedoms that they had. Uh, and. the Templars were known for trying to. fight for freedoms of individuals as. well. They were they helped um instigate. the signing of the Magna Carta, for. example, uh, which gave people rights.
for the first time in in England, you. know, um, >> God-given rights. >> God-given rights. Yeah. And this was. this was talked about even in Wolfron. vanes parcival which was a a book. published in the 1200s where it says the. Templars were these grail guardians. They're the guardians of the Grail and. it said uh on the Grail altar it said if. any Templar should become ruler of a. foreign people let him ensure that they.
are given their God-given rights. Well, this was the first time in history where. it's even suggested that people have. god-given rights. I mean, uh, rights. back then were said to come from the. pope or from the king and that was it. So, the fact that the Templars were. fighting for people to have rights, you. know, this was bad for business for both. the pope and the and the king. So, that's why they entered into this. conspiracy to suppress the Templar.
order. So, and this brings me to a. question I want to get your take on. because I heard you mention this. recently. Sure. That kind of kind of. shocked me a little bit. >> Um, >> I'm I'm going to I'm going to tell the. the quick version of what's of the. mainstream version of the story. Early. 2000s, a document is discovered in the. Vatican archives called the Shannon. Parchment. >> Right. Sure. >> Where Pope Clement the 5th absolves the. Knights, right? >> And I kind of assumed that was true, but. you have a different. >> Yeah. Everyone assumes it's true. But.
you the thing is so Napoleon. people forget Napoleon raided the. Vatican archives. Napoleon's personal. physician was Bernard Rammon Fabre. Paloprat who was the Grandmaster of the. Templar Order underground. Napoleon himself. believed himself to be the. illegitimate. grandson of Bonnie Prince Charlie.
who was also a Templar out of Scotland. So So one of the things that that. Napoleon was doing is he was looking for. Templar artifacts specifically when he. raided the Vatican. He brought all those. archives back to to France where they. were sifted through at St. Sulpus. The cheat on parchment was never found. Right. All of a sudden, years later,
Dan Brown becomes popular talking about. Templar stuff. >> Yep. >> That becomes this big thing. And lo and. behold, out of nowhere, this new Chenon. parchment is found. uh absolving the. Templar order that and it's and it's. being um kind [clears throat] of. sketchily verified as even being legit. and everyone just accepts it as real. But um there. >> I did. >> Yeah, everyone did. But but I don't I.
don't believe I I think it was a later. forgery. And after I heard your. explanation of it, I I I'm leaning your. way because it it doesn't absolve the. knights as much as it absolves the. church. >> Sure. It's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Because the church, you know, they they. they to they. s they sanctioned torture. and uh and accusing the Templar order of.
all kinds of madeup heresies that we. know now are just, you know, made up. and uh and and then ultimately in 1314, Jack de Malay, as well as a number of. other knights, Jeffrey Charna, who was. his uh is one of his top preceptors of. Tua region uh and others, they were all. burnt to the stake. And uh and the.
Templar or injecting Malay right before. he died, he said, "Look, I do not. consent to any of these these false. charges." And he told both Clement the. 5th and Philip the Farah that they would. both join him in the afterlife within a. year. >> This is the curse. >> This was the curse. And they both did. They both died, you know, within within. a year, you know, and uh which, you. know, has led to some speculation if.
they were poisoned secretly, if they. were, you know, secretly assassinated, which led to that. But. >> I think the pope was poisoned because I. think he actually died of dysentery. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, but there but the uh. but that was um and that was in March of. 1314. But they and they were both in. like Jackie Malay, he was burnt just. outside of uh Notradam Cathedral. >> and to [clears throat] this day there's. still a plaque uh there where he was.
where he was burned and it's it's on the. island there just outside of Notream. >> I didn't know that. >> Yeah. And some people speculated that. because the Templars were largely. responsible for building those. cathedrals. >> Certainly. >> Yeah. and they funded them and they. provided the manpower and the and then. they incorporated esoteric knowledge. that they're bringing back from the. Middle East onto those cathedrals. >> Sure. And we can see their graffiti all. over Europe.
>> So before we get into the the real. history, can you take us through your. personal experience? You're initiated as. a page at age eight. >> Eight. Yeah. >> What is what is that? >> So So yeah. So there's this whole. tradition that was set up um. specifically for. uh young people to go through this. knighthood program. Um and I didn't know. it at the time. I just was, you know, I was participating in it, but.
my first induction ceremony was at age. eight. >> Did you know your family was so deeply. in You didn't? >> I had no clue. And you're you're. >> I wasn't even told till I was 18. So I. had I had gone through this whole. program, this knighthood program where I. spent six years. trying to attain these different ranks. of knighthood. >> Mom, you should have sent me to this. instead of the Boy Scouts. I'm just.
saying. >> Yeah. Well, you know, the Boy Scouts. were were founded by Templars, too. Pal. Powell was was a Templar, but uh. >> if you look at the old Boy Scout. handbooks, they they they talk about how. the the a modern boy scout is a is a. Templar basically. So, but um but yeah, so I went through this program uh and. then by the age of 18, I I had attained. this rank of cernite within it. And you. know, along the way, I had to I had to.
work on all these different things. I. had to I had to study the mysteries of. the grail and I had to try to inculcate. these values, you know, these virtues. and trying to become a good citizen and. leader in the world and all this stuff. By the time I was 18 and I had gone. through this program, I realized it was all the people. I was. like, who set up this program? And I. started looking into it and realized it. was all these um Freemasons and Templars.
that had set up this program and um. and so I was like, "Oh, I better I think. I need to become a Freemason, you know.". So I went to I remember I was in college. at the time and I went over to my mom's. house to do laundry. >> as as we all do. >> Yeah. Right. And I said and she said, "What are you up to?" And I said, "Well, I you know, I think I'm going to try to. become a Freemason." And she said, "Oh, you know, your your both your. grandfathers are Freemasons. Your dad.
went through that system. Your. greatgrandparents are all involved in. you have a long family line involved in. all that." I was like, "What?" And she. was like, "Yeah, it was your grandpa. that that that put me had you put you in. that program when you were a kid.". [laughter] And no, I had no clue about. any of this. So she encouraged me to. reach out to them. And then I found out. uh that I had this long family lineage. on both sides of my family involved in.
all this going way back and uh including. my. my greatgrandfather. seven generations back. was the martyr of the Revolutionary War. who's General Joseph Warren. He's the. one who initiated Paul Rivere. He's the. one who set up the Boston Tea Party. And. he was uh and he was a grand commander. in the Templar order at the time. And.
his brother John Warren was the first. grandmaster. of Freemasonry in the forming United. States. And his his his son Joseph. Warren Jr. ended up marrying Elizabeth. Burns. who was the poet Robert Burns's. daughter and Robert Burns was also a. Templar in Scotland and he wrote all. enzyme that we all sing on um New Year's.
Day every every year you know. [clears throat] so um amongst other. things. So anyhow, I had this like so my. middle name is Warren because that's my. mother's maiden name. And so the Warren. side of the family all goes back to. that. And my my grandfather Hugh Warren, he was named Hugh after Hugh Deayes, >> of course. >> And uh you know, and then he had the. Warren, you know, side of it. Um you. know, he's the one who got me involved. in all this stuff. And and then on my.
dad's side, uh Howard Hogan, you know, he was really active in um. Freemasonry, was a was a highderee mason. in Nebraska. And uh his. >> And your father was a very popular. politician in Colorado. >> Correct. Yeah. And he he had been raised. he went through a demise program when he. was growing up and and I have all his. old demise stuff. and he became a Mason. and he was uh yeah and he was mayor of.
uh Aurora, Colorado, which is the like. the 50th largest city in the US. So it's. bigger than. Salt Lake City or Philadelphia or St. Louis or a lot of major cities we think. of. But he was he was mayor and he was. uh he was involved in all this stuff. But I had no clue. >> growing up before about your dad. My. audience knows a lot about the Denver. airport and the Masonic connection. Oh. yeah, correct. >> Your father was involved in it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So he's the one who like So. the Denver airport was annexed from. Aurora. >> So So that wasn't even Denver. territories, >> right? It was outside of. >> Right. It was outside of Denver. So they. annexed it and the agreement was that um. Denver would get the taxes from the. airport and Aurora would get the taxes. from any hotels and stuff that were set. up around there. but he also helped set.
up the um. uh what's known as is the Gaylord um. resort that's out there on Denver. International Airport property and it. has the convention center attached to it. and the convention center is actually. named after my father. It's the Steven D. Hogan Convention Center. So, because he. was all involved in all that stuff and I. have a I have a brother-in-law who's. also involved right now in um the the.
restructuring of the terminal of the. airport and and then I was involved. early on there's a Masonic time capsule. out there. >> Oh, yes. >> And it has the Braille plaque on it. >> And for the longest time that Braille. plaque was actually a plastic plaque. Most people don't know this. And so, uh, the secretary in my Masonic lodge, his. name was Warren Glover. He passed away. years ago, but he and I went out to the. Denver International Airport to to put.
the actual metal plaque on there. And. uh, so I was involved in some ways of of. actually dealing with that thing. And. it's not alien code. And if you it's if. you push the right buttons, nothing's. going to open up like some people say, but it's it's just braille plaque, you. know. But. >> but the Templars are famous for digging. tunnels and hiding things. What's under. that airport? Tell us. >> Uh well, I mean there I I'll tell you. I've been down under there. Um in fact,
you can find. >> Not where the luggage is. What's under. that? >> No, below that even. Yeah. But and. there's some storage areas. There's no. lizard people down there. Oh. >> Um, you know, there was always. speculation that there was there was. some entrance to the underworld down. there. It's not really. I mean, the the. whole reason why that property was even. selected was it was a deal made between. the Denver mayor and uh uh Federrico.
Pena, who was uh Pena Boulevard that. goes to the airports named after now. Uh, and it was kind of a money-making. scheme for the politicians at the time. They do that. Yeah, exactly. But. >> no bunkers. >> No. Well, there there is rumors that um. and I unofficially shall say. >> We're off the record. >> Right. Off the [laughter] record. There.
there's rumors that there are bunkers. down there for the president and other. people should there be a calamity on the. east coast and they need to get out of. that area that it's an area that they. can go to and to be hidden and they. continue to still operate. >> We do know that there was a potential. impact event years ago and Obama was. correct to that airport. >> That's right. and and about less than 3. miles from the airport is the Space. Force base, Buckley Space Force Base,
>> uh, which is almost on the property, uh, and in fact, the road that goes that. divides the two properties is the Steven. D. Hogan Parkway, which is also named. after my dad. So, um, and then there's. also a, uh, a housing community, too, on the Denver airport property, uh, called the Highlands, and it's it's all. dedicated to my dad, too. There's a. there's a lot there. >> He was very involved in all that.
development. >> He seemed like a great man, and um, and. I I watched a eulogy of him online. It. was really touching. >> Yeah. Thank you. when um. did you learn all the secret history of. the Templars when you were initiated? Is. that kind of how it works? >> Yeah. Uh well, I learned the general. history of the Templars as I was growing. up. That was part of my education, but. then yeah, as I got involved in stuff, I. started learning more of the secret.
history that was involved there. And. I've tried to bring some of that forward. and make it public. uh a lot of things. that just nobody's known about. You. know, like you look up. Rosaian for example, you're going to hear the same general. story of, oh, it was established in. Germany, but it doesn't really and they. talk about Johan Valentine Andrea, >> but they don't really talk about what. Johan Valentine Andrea was involved in,
you know, and he was he was uh he grew. up in the town of KF, spelled C A L W in. Germany and his mom was the town. alchemist there and that was a templar. was a it was an underground templar area. and that's where this militia crucifera. evangelica was largely based out of. In. fact, there's to this day there are. secret chapels there that have the the.
the bleons or the code of arms of all. the original. members of that tradition and they have. Andrea's code of arms there, you know, and stained glass and uh it's there's a. [snorts] whole tradition there that most. people have no clue about. Um. >> well, where did the Templars really. start and what was their original. mission? Yeah. So, according to and and. this isn't, by the way, I I'm I'm. popularizing I'm getting this. information out there now, but it's.
something that's been known within the. Templar traditions for a long time. Uh. the the Grandmaster before me, Raymond. Bernard, he was a very famous. uh historians and esotericists in Paris. uh and he published a book on this. called the secret meeting in Rome which. was about his initiation into the. Templar order clear back in 1956. And um and in it he talks about that the.
the real purpose for the Templar Order. was. the Templar Order quickly realized very. early on that there were these flood. myths all around the world and everyone. had the same flood myth. alluding to the fact that there was. probably a very real cataclysm in. antiquity. I I it's we're getting to the point. where it's almost.
non-negotiable. >> right right now. >> Right now, >> but like back then, I mean, it was, >> you know, it was just kind of considered. biblical history, right? You know, and. so, >> but the Templars, >> they thought there was something to it. >> and that [clears throat] they also. believe that there was. a very advanced civilization that had. existed. prior to this cataclysm. And when you. say advanced, do you mean advanced for. their time or for ours?
>> Both. >> So technology we would find advanced, >> right? >> Okay. >> Yeah. So much so that even later on when. Francis Bacon wrote his book, The New. Atlantis. >> Oh yes. >> So Francis Bacon was the the secret son. of Queen Elizabeth I. He was hidden at. birth. He was given to Lady Anne Bacon. who is uh Queen Elizabeth's lady in. waiting. Uh and uh he was he was raised.
by the Bacon Nicholas Lord Nicholas. Bacon and uh Lady Anne Bacon. Uh but. Francis Bacon. and Queen Elizabeth the first was a. member of this mil malicious cruciferian. Angelica. She was a Templar. Um, >> and that's a that's something. interesting where people think that. Knights Temple are just guys on horses. with, >> right? No, no, there were women going. all the way back to the beginning. >> and farmers and blacksmiths and masons, >> right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't. just knights on horseback. It was uh and.
clerics. Uh, it it was an entire it was. a. >> it was the first multinational. corporation really. And it had men and. women involved in it in different. capacities. But uh and so even after the suppression. as as the Templar order continued to. exist secretly underground there's some. very high level people like Queen. Elizabeth the first that were involved. in it. Francis Bacon had also been. involved in it. So when he wrote his New.
Atlantis. the whole basis of the book was that. there was this secret underground. Templar body that referred to itself as. the College of Solomon. Yes. >> So the head of the college of salmon's. wearing a turban with a red Templar. cross on it and um they have developed. all these technologies or they're trying. to develop all these technologies. and that the story goes that there was. this ship. It's kind of like the story.
of Lost actually if you ever watch that. TV show. >> the first season. >> Yeah. So there's this this ship that. crashes on the island and nobody knows. about this island. It's like this hidden. island and and when the people get off. the ship, they find there's this. civilization on this island and they. they're totally spiritually and. materially way more advanced than the. rest of the world. And uh the people of. explain to themselves, well, we're the.
College of Solomon. we develop these technologies. and we know about the whole world but. the whole world doesn't know about us. and uh and and they say to him where did. you where did you learn of these. technologies. and they said well it's like this we we. we we settled on this island and then. one day we saw this light out hovering. over the ocean and it was like in the.
shape of a cross so we rode our boats. out to it and there was like this force. field that wouldn't let us get any. closer to it and then it spit this book. out to us. >> Okay. >> And so we we brought this book back to. land and it's a it was a blueprint for. how to create all these technologies. So. we've been just trying to develop them. ever since. So this is like clearly. describing this UFO event, right? But uh but all the technologies were.
believed to be technologies from the. original Atlantis. And it described. things like submarines and flying. machines and things that. you know no didn't exist back in. uh Francis Bacon's day. But it was. believed these were the things that the. original Atlantis had and that it was. the Templar mission to redevelop these. things and so and to reestablish a. country where they could be developed.
and that's really what led to the. creation of the United States to become. this new Atlantis where these these. technologies could be developed. >> How does Francis Bacon's story uh track. with with Plato's description of. Atlantis? Uh it's pretty it's it's. different because he he's he he's. clearly sourcing back to Plato. >> Sure. >> But then he's also talking about all. kinds of things that Plato doesn't talk. about. And he talks about like medicines.
that need to be developed and uh. along with the technologies and. um you know he just says it needs to be. reestablished. The new Atlantis needs to. be established. And does that become a. Templar mission? >> That becomes the Templar mission. Yeah. And then um and then. Yeah. And then ultimately I mean the. United States well originally the Royal. Society was established in England to. try to.
create these ideas of of Francis Bacon. And then uh and then that was brought. over into the establishment of the. United States which then became the main. New Atlantis model to develop these. things and perpetuate them. >> So when the Templars um they end up in. Jerusalem, they're I believe granted. permission to set up their headquarters. correct under the dome under the dome. >> Right. So this is the secret history. So. So like.
>> but this is why we're here. This is why. >> Right. Right. So, while they're supposed. to be protecting pilgrims, >> right, >> what they're really doing is they're. digging, >> right? And they're they're they're doing. archaeological excavation under the. Temple Mount. >> and they're going into East Jerusalem. and they're they're opening up tombs and. finding artifacts. and they're and they're bringing this. stuff secretly back to Europe. And then.
they're also going into places like. Egypt where they they set up uh their. their grand commandery at the temple of. Isis at. >> Fel. >> and they from there they're they're. going into places like the temple of. Hatheror Dendera and and Hatchepsuit's. temple you know in the valley of the. kings and in Lux in in Cararnac and in. uh and and they leave these Templar. markers at all these places and they. leave Templar graffiti at all these.
places as well. And they're finding. artifacts. including arcs. like the Ark of the Covenant. >> You said arcs. >> Arcs plural. >> Plural arcs. >> Yeah. So they found six arcs. Um but there was probably a hundred arcs. in antiquity. Uh every temple in Egypt. had one of these arcs. And you can see. it on the temple walls when you when you. know what to look for. >> So if we had so if there were 100 arcs.
on earth then what how the arcs are. described in the Bible is incorrect. Well, they were what they were is they. were. electrostatic capacitors. and they would be set up at certain node. points around the planet and then the. electricity would build up and it would. just broadcast within the region. And. let me let me set up for those. listening. Um, if you take aacia wood.
and put gold on either side of it, you. create a dialectric which does transfer. electricity. >> That's exactly right. And then the other. thing they put in the arcs was uh this. what was referred to as mana. >> Mhm. >> Which was really just gold converted. into a monoatomic state and which makes. it superconductive. So you put this. superconductive sub substance. inside this and it's going to produce a.
tremendous amount of electricity. >> But monatomic gold can only do that with. some alchemical. >> Correct. >> Right. Because scientists can't do this. >> Correct. >> But somebody could. >> Yes. So so the process the Templars. figured out how to do this. Right. Uh. and it. it's it's it's. weird science because when you take gold. and you convert it into the state, the. first thing that happens is the gold.
you break it down and break it down and. then but you still have gold. but at a certain point the gold just. disappears. >> Well, the lattice structure of the. molecules. >> falls away and you're left with single. atoms. Well, even before that, it it it. literally disappears into a higher. dimension. >> What? What? >> Yeah. Okay. >> And then when you when you create the. conditions for it to come back, >> Yeah. it it enters into this monatomic.
state where every grain of this gold is. one atom thick. That is the um the outer. the two. uh electrons and the outer veence ring. both enter into what's called a spin. forward. >> Mh. And when that happens, it enters. into a high spin state. So the nucleus. completely captures the outer veilance. ring. So it doesn't bind with anything. else. >> And when it does this, it generates a. tremendous amount of electricity. And it.
and it. uh yeah becomes super conductive. >> And there are some parts of the Anunnaki. legend that say they were here from. monatomic gold, >> right? Yeah. They were they were mining. gold. >> Mhm. I think this is when we see modern UAPs. in the ocean. I think that's what. they're doing. I think they're uh. because because this gold it it can also. be made deep in the earth and pushed up. volcanically and then it gets deposited. in the soil and and.
um or in the bottom of the ocean. Uh if. you if you look at the bottom of the. ocean, it's it's it's mostly just white. powder down there, which is what this. monatomic gold is. Um, but it also it. can be pushed up volcanically and uh and. then plants absorb it. And so the other. way you can you can capture it is you. can calcate down a like a bush, right? Burn it down and you can extract.
the monatomic gold out of the ashes. >> And that's interesting because calcinate. that that would be one of the steps of. alchemy. >> Correct. And it's also, we believe from. a templar perspective, it's why Moses. witnessed God as a burning bush, >> right? Because you have to calcate down. the bush. to extract the mana literally out of the. ashes, the monotomic gold. >> Do you remember the name of that that. bush, the scientific name? Because. they're all over Egypt. >> Oh, yes. It's a tamarisk. Well, there's.
there's there's the tamarisque and then. there's the acacia, but they're all over. the area. But there's tamaris, the. thorny tamarisque is what they say was. probably the burning bush, right? And um. so so there are these par perennials, this is for the audience all over Egypt, that these perennials have highly. volatile oils that are flammable. Correct. When the conditions are correct. in the desert, they catch fire. >> That's exactly right. And you can and if. you if you extract the ashes from that.
you you can extract these this monotomic. gold from those ashes. This is also by the way we believe why. the later on. uh the Hebrew priests at like Solomon's. temple were demanding all these burnt. sacrifices because again you could. extract the monotomics. the mana quote unquote and mana by the. way mana just in Hebrew means what is it. that's literally what it means is what.
is it and it's called that because if. you do a spectroscopic analysis or a. chemical testing with this monatomics. It doesn't show up as anything, >> right? >> So, it's like mana, what is it? You. know, so um. >> so take us to the back to the ark. The. mana is in there. >> So, it's placed in the ark. Even the. Bible says that there was a pot of mana. placed placed in the ark. >> But if you if you. >> and mana provided throughout the entire. Exodus, >> correct? Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, in Moses, he also burned the.
golden calf. >> into this white powder. And and for. centuries, scientists said, "Oh, see, this is just proof the Bible's, you. know, uh, ridiculous because everyone. knows gold melts. It doesn't turn into a. powder." [snorts]. But actually, if you do this alchemical. process to it, it does turn into a. powder. And it does not only. you can see this in in ancient Egypt on. all the temples.
wherever you see an ark you'll also see. the pharaoh with his hand out with this. moundshaped cone on his hand. That cone. mound is the mana. It's the mana bread. And uh when you actually when you form. the mana in the vessel. when the gold. it phase shifts into this other. dimension and when you bring it back in. the vessel it forms that exact mound.
shape. And so that's why they're. depicting it that way. But it the. pharaoh would eat that and it it had. incredible health benefits, you know, in. terms of curing cancer and everything. else. But it was also put inside those arcs. and it would produce this tremendous. amount of power. And I am I'm certain. actually that's that's why these phase. shifting UFOs, these UAPs that are phase.
shifting the same way that the gold does. when you. when you do this alchemical process to. it. That's what they're doing. they're. mining this stuff, you know, because it. allows them to use. And by the way, the Hebrew tradition referred to this. substance as mana, right? But um and it. was said to if you read texts like the. Kebra Nagas, which is a Ethiopian text.
>> that talks about King Solomon's flying. craft. >> in Menelik. Yes. >> Right. And Menelik. Uh, King Solomon's flying craft was said. to be powered by this mana, right? >> But wait, there's more. >> But wait, there's more. Uh, you know, in. the ancient Vadic texts, they talk about. flying craft and they're referred to as. vimmana. In the Samrian texts, they talk about. the Anunnaki, these gods having flying.
craft and the flying craft are referred. to as shimana. in the Polynesian cultures that uh talk. about like how the Eastern Island. statues were moved, they it was with a. substance that was referred to as mana. >> Mhm. >> Right. In um and in uh like Tibetan. traditions, the the white stone of. enlightenment was referred to as mani. >> It's all the same stuff and you find it.
universal. And um the other unique thing. that happens with this monet. when you put it in when you subject it. to. a a weak electrostatic or. electromagnetic field, it causes the. vessel containing it to start to weigh. less than nothing. Uh this is really how a couple people. with rods could carry the ark of the. covenant which would have weighed.
several tons. >> Several tons, >> you know, with all that gold and acacia. wood. >> Uh. >> and maybe it's a con coincidence or. maybe not, but the the priests that. carried the arkward were the Levites, right? >> And it sounds a lot like levitation. >> Levitation, right? Exactly. Yeah. Not. that lev the word levitation is a Hebrew. word, but I mean you tell me where the word. levitation comes from. You know, there's. a lot of root words to things that.
>> we normally don't think of as with. certain cultures. For example, the word. ignite, >> right? >> Right. Uh comes from from ignis. >> Mhm. >> Right. The Greek ignis which meant fire. You know where that comes from? >> No. It comes from the Sanskrit agy which. meant fire. >> Okay. >> So agny became igni you know which where. we get ignite you know but like most. people would never so they they take it. back to the Greek but they wouldn't. realize it actually comes from the.
Sanskrit you know. So there's words all. the time that get incorporated in the. words we use in English. >> or or the word on for example when you. turn on a light switch. on was the ancient Egyptian word for. light. So, you're literally turning on. >> wow. >> the light, you know. Uh and there. there's lots of words like that that. we've inherited that we don't really. remember the origins of and and scholars.
are quick to point them back to the. Roman or the Latin or the Greek. But the the Greeks and the Romans, they. got those from other cultures. Sure. So, I mean it's um. >> yeah, you can see um a lot of. it's in Polynesian cultures have words. with Greek roots, but there's an. argument to be made that it's kind of. the other way around, >> of course. Yeah, 100%. >> So, to the ark, what did the Israelites. think they had? What were they doing.
with this? >> Well, so so we believe this from a. Templar perspective. Sure. >> Okay. We're we're quite certain that um the. whole Moses story. really goes back to you you have to. under understand. the history associated with the pharaoh. Akenatan. >> So Akenatan was the first pharaoh to. proclaim monotheism in history. He said. all the gods of Egypt were actually a.
part of one god that was known as the. Atutton or myin which in ancient. Egyptian was Atonai. Right. when Aknatan got deposed because the. Ammon priesthood rose up and were like, "Hey, we're not going to do this one god. thing anymore.". >> Right? Cuz they worship and the others, >> right? So they had to go underground. >> Mhm. Uh, Aknaten had a brother whose. name was Tutmosis.
And when Aknatan was deposed, Tutmos is. the one that took all the Autonist. followers out of Egypt. And he he took. them up into Phoenicia and they really. literally became the Canaanites. and became the early Hebrews. And so, and words like atonai became Adoni, which meant Lord in Hebrew. Uh and um. but the ark that's associated with the.
Hebrew tradition really was one of these. arcs that was in Egypt that was a power. literally a was used to generate power. and we believe. these arcs. according well according to the ancient. Egyptian account these were technologies. that had come from Utlant. >> right. >> which was their name for what we now. call Atlantis. and it's depicted on the um at Edfu at.
the temple of Horus. >> Yep. >> Uh there's a what's called the building. texts that are on the wall there and. they show the gods, the needers coming. over in boats. >> from the primordial mound that had had. drowned in the ocean. as they came to Egypt to settle. And. they also showed these arcs on the boats. being brought over. So anytime you see. an ark in Egypt, one of these arcs, it's always depicted.
on a boat. And it's because it was. technology that was brought over from. Utlant. >> Sure. >> And and deposited in these temples that. were then used as like power stations. >> I mean, there's even that story in the. Bible about Usuza who goes to study the. ark and is electrocuted. Literally has a. Yeah. He it kills him on the spot, you. know, cuz he's shocked to death. >> Yeah. So, and and and that was the other. thing. So, the pharaohs are always. depicted with these rods next to the ark.
cuz they were grounding rods. So, you. could you could literally put the rod in. the ground, >> drop it against the ark, and it would. ground the electricity. So, then you. could open it. Um, and in the but in the. the Torah or the Old Testament, these. were uh it was Aaron's rod. >> Mhm. >> You know, that's what Aaron's rod was. used for. Same thing. It was a grounding. rod. You put it in the ground, drop it. against the ark, discharge the. electricity, so then you could handle. the ark. But if you didn't do that, the.
ark would start to build up static. electricity over several hours or. several days and it then it would. discharge through the the winged figures. on the top. >> Ah the cherubam. Yeah. >> The cherubam. And if you [clears throat]. remember in the story Moses he sets up a. tabernacle on the wilderness. >> which he did with wool curtains. >> Right. >> Right. And wool is also a static. generator. >> That's right. So it would help to build. up that static, you know, that would uh.
that would then be collected in the ark. as a capacitor which would then. discharge it. >> That's true. When they would send. priests into the tabernacle, they would. tie a rope around their legs. >> Yeah. So if they got killed, they could. out Yeah. So they wouldn't get. electrocuted, too. >> Yeah. So it's um so and and so the. Templar order, they found six of these. arcs. Where did they find these? >> In between Jerusalem and Egypt. >> Okay. >> And um most of them were found in Egypt.
In fact, at the temple of Si the first. at Abbidos. >> Abos. Yeah. >> There's a secret chamber. It's called. the Umsetti room now. But it's a um it's. a uh it's it's a chamber. It's closed to. the public. uh you know we lead tours in Egypt and. we show we have access to this this. chamber and what it it has depicted on. the temple wall is it shows the first.
holding the monred in his hand next to. an ark and then it shows another ark on. the boat undergoing transportation. and then but the ark right next to him. uh you there's also three. red Templar crosses that were painted by. the order back in the clear back in the. the late 1100s cuz that's where they. found the first ark was in that room.
And uh that's one of the arcs that they. secured that we still have to this day. Um, so. >> let's take a quick break and um I want. to come back and talk about the arcs. that you found and uh I'd like to get. into a little bit of ancient Egypt and. how they could have worked as. technology. >> Absolutely. Sure. >> All right. We'll be right back. >> All right. So, the the Hebrews had the. arcs. Um, they probably didn't know what. they were.
>> Correct. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't. understand. Well, they had a arc, >> right? >> For sure. Um and they quickly learned. that it could be deadly. >> Sure. >> And uh and it would probably, you know, it would build up this power. Interestingly, if you if you look at u. around the world, you'll see this all. over Egypt, but also other places like. Cambodia and and in uh. uh like uh Peru.
>> Um there's these uh what are known as. They're called butterfly clamps, which which fit these stones together. And then there's these clamps. It's the. same looking clamp. Uh those weren't actually, we believe, weren't really to hold the stones. together because if you wanted to hold. the stones together, it would be thicker. in the center and smaller on the sides. But but in these cases, it's thicker on.
the sides. and thinner in the center. So the. purpose of them wasn't and it was metal. We know it was metal that was put in. there. The purpose wasn't really to hold. the stones together. They were they. created a zipper effect around the. temples and those were the they were. like the receiving. for these arcs. So, as the energy was. broadcasted, it'd be picked up by these this metal. zipper that would go around the temples.
and then they could just kind of plug. into that, you know. We think that's. what they were really used for. >> And and you'd think there was about a. hundred of them. >> Oh, yeah. At least. >> around the world. >> Yeah. Maybe even more. Uh I mean you. find uh even to this day in Japan and. the Shinto tradition, they have a they. have these these arcs that they bring. out of their temples, you know, once a. year and they'll parade them around the. town and they look exactly like the Ark.
of the Covenant. >> I didn't know that. >> Yeah. So, but it comes from the early. Japanese tradition, you know, of of. having these arcs, you know. So they. were it was an international thing that. I think went back to this technology of. Atlantis. that um you know when that civilization. collapsed. you know there were there's certain ones. that were preserved and then later they. made kind of like symbolic replicas of.
them. You see this a lot in Ethiopia. even to this day. They call them tabbit. boxes, but they um. >> So, do you believe that the the ark. that's allegedly in Axim in Ethiopia? >> I think it's real. >> You think it's real? >> Yeah, I think it's one of the real ones. >> Okay. >> Um I I have no reason to doubt it. actually. I mean, the the that whole. Ethiopian tradition there is uh. is very old. >> The Kevin Nass talks about the ark. coming there. >> Correct. Yeah. And it it also there's.
there's one of the earliest Jewish. temples in Egypt was actually on. Elephantine Island. >> and I've been into. the the the ruins of of it's the that. area is closed to the public but I' I've. been in there. >> How do you get access to all these. places? By the way, Tim does tours. >> Yeah. >> That I am definitely going to take. How. do you get access to these places? Um. well cuz the the order's been there for. the last thousand years doing research.
and so they just give us access you know. because we've always been respectful. Um they allow us to do our initiation. ceremonies and the great pyramid still. it's not a problem. >> Does the great pyramid have anything to. do with the arcs? Some believe that the the the the. so-called sarcophagus, the box that's in. the king's chamber, was originally. designed to hold an ark. >> It would fit better than a body,
>> right? Um, >> good. >> Others others believe there is there is. something else that's going on in Egypt. at all these temples where you find. these arcs. There's also talks of stargates. that are on the this is in the. hieroglyphs. on the temple walls. They talk about. stargates. and that these arcs. were being used to provide the energy.
for these stargates. and that the pharaoh would go through. these stargates and meet with. the needers, the the the gods who would. instruct him and then he would come back. and pass that on to the the rest of. Egypt. And there were only like seven. pharaohs that were considered masters of. the stargates. And uh Hatshets. was one and then her son Tutmos III was.
one. >> Uh even Akenatan who was the great. grandson of of Tutmos III was also. listed as a master of the Stargate. I have an episode coming out at some. point that's going to be controversial. that. >> alleges that Akenatan might have been. Moses. >> Yeah, we we we think it was his brother. Tut Moses. So Tut Moses became Moses. >> Yep. >> Right. Um.
>> Tumosis the second has he was just found. just a couple of weeks ago. >> Correct. Yeah. So there's there is. uh we think so. there there's some evidence that this. idea of the aten. uh the the one god that Aknatan talked. about was actually known by the pharaohs. going back to tut Moses III at least. and that it was it was knowledge that.
was secret amongst the pharaohs that all. the gods were asked perspectives of one. god and it was only Akadan who then made. that idea public and that was where his. real heresy was. >> Sure. I mean he moved the capital right. >> Right. From Cairo, >> right? Right. >> And yeah, he set up Tela Armana and he. uh. >> uh and then of course Nefertiti was his. wife. >> The real kicker there is that there are. buss.
of Nefertiti. Well, same that that headdress that that. Nefertiti is wearing is actually a Mayan. headdress. >> And on Elephantine Island, there is a. secret Tutmos III temple there. And it. shows. Mayans trading beads with Egyptians. >> Again, this is Anunnaki legend that that. that after the great flood, the Yucatan.
survivors went and Egypt survivors went. >> Correct. Yeah. >> And we think what happened was actually. so. the Mayans they referred to Atlan. which was the homeland. The the Egyptian temple walls talk about. Utlant. which is the same place and that. we think uh what the Egyptians later. did. So the Egyptians inherited all this. stuff, right? They didn't even know what.
most of it was. >> They found it. >> They found it. I mean, when they found. the Serapian, for example, where there. was these giant granite boxes that weigh. 700 tons and are so perfectly and. precisely made, uh, the Egyptians couldn't have made. that. They had they had copper tools, >> right? And those I've seen those right. angles measured with lasers. >> Right. And they're precise. >> Yes.
>> Uh no one knows really what the boxes. were for. Uh according to early. accounts, the only thing that was found. in them was a white powder. [laughter]. >> Right. Right. >> So it was probably this monatomic gold. Um and and it was probably a survival. bunker, you know, to preserve this stuff. from the cataclysm. So when the. Egyptians later found it, they were. totally freaked out. We know they were. because they they started making they.
started sacrificing bulls there. They. they started eating the dirt out of the. temple walls cuz they thought it might. have magical properties. >> I mean these were not. >> the the adv technologically advanced. people who made those boxes. These were. the later people who found them clearly. and were trying to process it. >> But we also know that the Egyptians. wanted to. find the original homeland of of the.
needers and and of this tradition. And. so they probably sailed in boats. over to the Yucatan and and. met with the Mayans who had the same. tradition. and uh and you know we don't know how. much they associated with them but we do. know like in the Valley of the Queens. for example there's a tomb dedicated to. a queen Maya and there's Mayan artwork.
in the tomb you know so there had to. have been some some crossbreeding ing. going on. And it may be that Neferta. herself was a Mayan princess. She was. said to have come from a foreign land. and um you know that was Aknatan's wife, >> right? >> So uh and then King Tuten Common. was their son, >> right? >> And his original name was Tuton Autton.
after the Atinus. In fact, his throne. says Tuton Aton on it and but he had to. change it to Ammun because the Ammon. priesthood took over at point. So. >> So um we've got the the arcs uh. transmitting energy. I I subscribe to. the pyramid power plant theory. >> Yeah. If you were to put one of those. arcs in there. and turn it on, I mean the the even even. without adding.
you know chemicals and everything else. to create that energy uh as is the. theory. Uh even beyond all that the. granite in there is paleo electric. >> that's the rose granite. >> right the rose granite. So as there's. that pressure is put on it, it produces. electricity. It's in the middle of the. desert. The pyramid itself is a giant static. electrostatic capacitor. If you if you. stand on top of the pyramid with and you.
take a bottle with a wet rag on it and. hold it up, sparks are going to be. shooting off the top of it just cuz it's. already building up static electricity. But then if you put an arc in the center. of it, uh, with this monatomic substance, this superconductive substance, it's. going to really generate a lot of power. >> And you throw a gold capstone on top. >> Yeah, of course. It's it's just going to. it's just going to uh.
transmit it throughout the region. And I. really I think there there's some. theories that Nicola Tesla when he was. developing his u. >> warden cliff. >> warden cliff tower and all of his. research he was doing in Colorado. Springs Colorado. >> he was uh he was trying to mimic this. process. >> Sure. I mean he built Warden Cliff on. top of an aquifer just like Giza. >> Right. Just like Giza. Yep. Here's where. here's where I get tripped up is I could.
I can buy into that the fact that. there's electricity flowing around the. ancient world, but what were they. powering? >> I think they were powering the same. things we power today. I think. by some accounts the earth was as. populated and as advanced as it is. today. >> W That's a big claim. >> It's a huge claim. I'm willing to make. it because there. >> there is evidence for that. There's even. evidence of nuclear detonations in the.
ancient world. >> Um at places like Moenjodaro and. Harappa. >> Mhm. >> Uh even on Easter Island and by the way. this is something you never hear about. Uh. so Moenjodaro in Harapa in India there's. there was a script that was found. The. only other place we find that exact same. script. is on Easter Island, which is on the. exact opposite side of the globe,
>> right? >> You know, so there was clearly a. worldwide. advanced civilization that was going on. Harry Truman when he wrote in his diary. entry that by the way, Harry Truman was. a past Grandmaster of Missouri for. Freemasonry. He was a 33rd degree. Freemason and he was a Templar. And when. he wrote in his diary entry about the. discovering of the atomic bomb, he says,
"We have discovered an ancient weapon.". >> I didn't know he said that. >> Yeah, those were his exact words. We. have discovered an ancient weapon. >> And these texts you're talking about, they do talk about a sky filled with. fire. >> Absolutely. Oppenheimer was a Sanskrit. scholar. >> Yes. Yes. This is why when he said, "I've become death, the destroyer of. worlds." That's directly from the. Mahabarata. >> Yes. >> And and books like the Ramayana, the. Mahabarata, they say things like um.
it talks about atomic detonations. It. says Girka flying his powerful vammana. hurled a single projectile. with all the power of the universe. It. was an unknown weapon, an iron. thunderbolt which reduced to ashes the. entire race of the Vishnes and Ankadas. A pottery broke without apparent cause. Elephants burst into flame and ran. madly. The birds croked.
madly. Uh after a few days had passed. over, all food stuff became infected. Hair and nails began to fall out. Sounds like radiation poisoning. >> Radiation poisoning. The soldiers threw. themselves in the streams to wash. themselves on their equipment. >> Uh oh. Uh clouds roared upward showering. gravel. Um. I mean these were all the descriptions. of this weapon. And by the way, the.
vammanas were these flying craft, you. know. >> So this are in ancient texts. These were. things that the the Nazis were studying. that Ananba. uh were were studying uh to try to. develop this. They when they were. developing their V2 program that. Oenheimer. or that uh yeah was in charge of and. then he was brought over to establish. the NASA program for the uh. >> von Brown.
>> Von Brown. Yeah. Runner von Brown. Sorry, not Avanau. Reer von Brown. He. was in charge of the V2 program. he was. brought over to develop Saturn 5. >> uh for NASA. Um but again, we're talking. about ancient technology. and. there is plenty of evidence of this. around the ancient world and and it's. mentioned in the text, the ancient. texts. So I think I think the world was a lot.
more advanced than anyone's willing to. talk about. I think that there was this mass. cataclysm. I mean just like today most of the major. cities were on the coast as sea levels. rose 300 ft. It just erased everything. and uh and then all that was left over. was the myths and some areas of. survival. One of the things that we point out when.
we when we go to Egypt for example we do. the tours in Egypt and this is not a. well-known or popular theory but uh we. believe that. the Valley of the Kings for example. was originally survival bunkers cuz most. people think of them as just these tombs. built into the cliffsides but what they. don't realize is all those tombs are. connected by these tunnels that go deep.
down into the earth where they're all. connected and it would have taken. thousands of people to carve out all. these tunnels. And if you were a pharaoh. and you're trying to find a place to. hide yourself where you're buried, you're certainly not going to hire. thousands of workers to create a bunch. of tunnels. uh uh to so that you could be buried. down there. I mean the the secret would. have gotten out right away. So.
>> we believe that from a Templar. perspective. that the pharaohs wanted to be buried at. the place where their ancestors. originally came out after the cataclysm. And so the other thing that these. pharaohs did is they in their tombs they. tried to preserve the knowledge. of that civilization. prior to the cataclysm. And so we show, for example, in certain tombs where.
there's these tall men with red beards. that have baby woolly mammoths and giant. sloths on leashes, >> like pre ice age animal. >> pre ice age animals that the Egyptians. shouldn't even note about. And there. they are carved in the tomb being. preserved by the pharaoh. Why would he. want to preserve that in his tomb in. that area? >> Is that public or is that something that.
you've seen? >> It's something I've seen. Uh I mean I. can show the photos of it, but I mean. it's it's that's one of the things we. show when we go on these tours, you. know, so people see it. >> Your tour will go in there. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We show it. >> because the um the Tomb of the Kings. that network theory that's disputed, but. have you seen that network? >> Oh, yeah. Well, they have it. They have. Yeah. That entire tunnel network is they. actually when you go into the entrance. of the Valley of the Kings, they have a. model of it for the public to see.
>> Oh my goodness. >> It looks like a giant ant farm. underneath there. And some of them go. down, you know, two 300 feet down into. the the the in there. >> Why did they even have these tunnels for. for their tombs? It doesn't make any. sense. >> It doesn't. Makes sense if you. understand those were survival bunkers. >> It makes me It makes me think of the. underground city Darren Kuyu in Turkey. >> Same type of deal. Exactly. Yep. Exactly. Same type of deal. And for that.
for that matter, and this is another. Templar related thing. One of the things that the order also. discovered when it first went to Egypt. is that there were these massive tunnel. networks that existed. between Giza and Sakara. >> All right. Sakara is where the step. pyramid of Zozer is. That word Sakara is. actually where we get the word sacred. from.
>> Okay. Um, but there are there are tunnels that. stretch that whole way, large tunnels. That area that that underground in the. ancient Egyptian language was known as. Rostow, which just meant underworld. When the when the Templars discovered. this, they brought that knowledge back with.
them and they transliterated. the Egyptian rostau into the Latin. language they're familiar with. So Ross. became rose and tao became cross. >> Oh my goodness. So they adopted the. symbol of the rose cross. to talk about this secret underground. area of Egypt. And then. when they went and set up the. cathedrals, when they started building.
the cathedrals of Europe and they were. bringing back this Egyptian knowledge. and they were trying to set up the. cathedrals in the same manner of the. Egyptian temples. and they they they put the their. alchemical knowledge like you could go. to Notream Cathedral, the front doors of. Notream Cathedral, they have all the. stages of alchemy depicted. um which nobody knew at that time except. for groups like the Sebians and the. Drews in the Middle East. So it's very.
clear that Templars were associated with. them and bringing this knowledge back. But they set up the cathedrals so if you. view them from the the sky they're. crosses. but then they put the rose windows in. them right to make them rose crosses. right Rostow that knowledge from Egypt. from the underworld of Egypt. So the. Rosacrusians are the followers of. >> correct. Yeah. So the Templar order when. they created the Rosacrruian order in. Germany. >> Mhm. >> That symbol the rose cross was really.
was just pointing back to the Ross Tao. the the underworld of Egypt. And this is. also why they also brought over. uh they they put the black Madanas and. the crypts of the cathedrals. This was hearkening back to the temple. of Isis where they had their grand. commandery in Egypt where they saw they. had the granite or the basaltt statues. of Isis with the young child Horus on.
her lap that was you know it was black. basaltt in in ancient Egypt. So they. just recreated that image and painted it. black and put it in the crypts of the. cathedrals where they're holding their. secret initiation ceremonies. And it was it was to hearken back to. that origin in Egypt. Uh and there was a. lot of things like that. I mean another. example is is the Baffome, right? They.
were accused of worshiping this. >> this ramheaded. >> right. >> figure, right? Well, what that ramheaded. figure was is it was actually the god. Amun. >> Mhm. >> Of ancient Egypt, which was where we get. the word Amen from. >> Yeah. >> And it was it was a ram because it was. created during the age of Aries. All that Egyptian stuff was largely.
created during the age of Aries. Judaism came out of that age of Aries, which is why they, you know, they use. all this shepherd metaphor and the. >> and you'll see the rabbi with their. their locks that are made to look like. lamb. >> Yeah. lamb ears, you know. And um but. the uh. um that word baffome,
it actually comes from uh ancient. Egyptian ba meant soul, fa meant from. and m meant universal order. So it was. literally the soul from the universal. order or you know and that that was. Bafamat. but it was it was a figure of the god. Ammoon. and he was a ram because what sound does.
a ram make? Ba. >> ba that oh yeah. >> which means soul right? So, and you'll. see this too, um, if you go to. Cararnack, for example, there's a row of. sphinxes. >> Mhm. >> And as you're going into the into Carac, you'll see all these ramheaded. sphinxes because the again the ram was. Ammoon. But then he had they they have ram.
heads, but they have lion bodies. And the reason for this is the lion. represented the age of Leo. where the Egyptian civilization came out. of. >> Sure. >> But then the temple was being created. during the age of Aries which was the. rain. >> Right. So so that's what they were. saying. They were saying look we're. creating this temple now during the age. of Aries. >> How far would that take us? Well, so the. age of Leo was during the Young Dry.
Cataclysm, >> of course. So. >> that's and that's when the sinks was. built, >> right? >> Right. Was during that time. >> facing Leo. >> facing Leo on the horizon. >> Yeah. So it was it was saying look our. foundations that we came out of was. during the age of Leo. During the the. cataclysm, the younger dus cataclysm. We are now. practicing under the age of Aries, you. know. So the god a moon is depicted as a.
ram for that reason. And the and the ram. of course says ba which is the soul. >> Let's talk a little bit about um the. controversial stuff regarding religious. artifacts. >> Sure. Absolutely. >> I don't I mean I've been following you. for a long time. I don't think you can. get away from these anymore. >> No, no, no. Let's do it. Um, >> I don't know. Do you want to I I might. be more comfortable you telling Sure. what you found than me putting words in.
your mouth. >> Absolutely. Sounds good. So, the Templar order found a number of. artifacts as they were. >> digging in Jerusalem [clears throat]. >> and in Egypt. Uh, they found. these arcs that we talked about, six. arcs. um in particular. uh six arcs that they they captured, they brought back up through um into. Lebanon for a while and then into uh.
uh France and into Portugal and into. Scotland and from there they brought. them over to the new world. So they were. traveling over to the Americas. They actually had by the time the order. was suppressed by 1314. they had already mapped all of North. America. >> Sure. >> Uh they they hid they were trading with. the Mayans. In fact, if you go to Rosland Chapel, which was completed in by 1420.
>> Yeah, I do want to talk about that. Uh. there there's um there's a stained glass. window that's that has uh American corn. and aloe cactus depicted on it. >> Yes. >> But it also has Mayan pyramids. >> I did not see those. >> Yeah. So the corn is coming out of these. Mayan pyramids, >> right? Which shouldn't be there. >> No, they shouldn't. >> But they're very clearly Mayan pyramids. And it's because the Templars were.
trading with the Mayans. And that's a. whole another story. When we do a tour. down into Mexico, we meet with the. Mayans. Still to this day, they still. put the equal armed cross of the. Templars on their altars. And we still. have the same secret grips and. everything that we do. But. >> well, then we have to get back that. >> but that's a whole another that's a. whole another topic. But. >> it is. But I we need to sidet track for. that for just a second because. >> sure. >> to support that theory that the Templars. were trading with the new world. Can you.
tell the story about Columbus? >> Oh yeah. So Columbus. was a uh. he was a freelancer. >> Uh bit of a rogue. >> Rogue. He he actually he caught wind of. the fact that there was. land on the other side of the Atlantic. to the day he died, he still thought it. was India. He didn't realize it was a. different culture. But um he,
you know, he figured this out and then. he went and he pulled uh the daughter of. one of the Templar grandmasters out of a. convent, married her to try to get Templar maps. and knowledge. And then uh once he was able to get. that, he then went to. the king of Portugal and said uh fund me. to go to the new world. You know that. there's land across the ocean and and.
there are sacred artifacts. and that were moved there and I'm going. to go get them for you. And of course. the king of Portugal was like we don't. need you because Portugal was actually. founded as a templar state. >> right. >> and when the templars were suppressed. they just changed their name and. continued to be this s seafaring you. know like vasco de gama was a was a. templar grandmaster.
>> you know uh of Portugal you know so. there was they were already still. exploring all over as templars they just. changed their name to the knights of. Christ right. >> they already knew there was land on the. other died. So he said, "We're not going. to we're not going to help you, Columbus." So Columbus went to the enemy. of Portugal, which was Spain. And he. sold Queen Isabella on the idea of look, uh, not only is there land on the other. side, but but all these sacred artifacts.
were brought there, including these arcs. and everything else. I'm gonna go get. them for you. and she's so she funded. them. And uh this is the real reason why. he put the Templar cross. on his boats cuz he knew that the. natives would recognize it when he got. there cuz he he knew that the Templars. were already traveling over there. >> and friendly. >> and friendly. Yeah. Already had friendly. relations. So it was very easy for him.
to go in. you know, when the natives saw. the Templar cross, they were like, "Oh, it's our buddies,". >> you know, and but then Columbus went in. and started enslaving them and bringing. them back. And, you know, he was he was. terrible about it. So, that's the real. story behind Columbus. And it's the. reason why. >> Columbus and the Spanish that came over. afterwards, originally, they were. looking for these holy artifacts that.
the Templars had brought over. They knew. the Templars had brought them over. They. knew they had associations with the. natives, so they had to be somewhere. And then it. just turned into a a lust for gold, you. know, after that. So, >> but the Spanish clearly had an interest. in the supernatural elements by going. after the fountain of youth and this. lost city of Z. >> That's exactly right. Yeah. But it was. all tied into these kind of grail. legends, you know, that were were tied. in with these artifacts.
>> And um. and the Templars did they they did bring. uh these artifacts like the arcs. So. this kind of goes back into the. artifacts. They they they brought these. arcs and other things. over to the new world. and they did. establish relations with certain tribes. who helped to protect and continue to. this day to protect and preserve them. So, we have a series of vaults.
that we set up to hide these artifacts. in and some of the other artifacts. >> Now, I have to ask you where are the. vaults? >> I can't tell you that. >> So, folks, he's not going to tell us, >> but I will say that there was originally. seven vaults. [snorts]. Um, there's only two now. >> So, since you can't say where they are, >> Yeah. >> can you describe what they what they. look like? Are they guarded? Are they. climate controlled? What is a what is a. vault like? It's just like a big. underground.
vault that was originally covered over. with um cement made of like crushed lime. and shells. >> and uh and then dirt and and just. buried, you know, but it's buried in. specific areas. >> Are they guarded or are they hipped or. hidden? >> I'll say I'll tell you this. I'll say. say I can tell you this much. One of the. vaults is in. Washington DC. >> Wow. I have not heard you say that. before. >> Yeah, I've never said it before. Okay.
>> But it's at an area that um I think most. people wouldn't expect. >> and uh it's on National Park property. >> I might want to slow you down there. >> Well, there's there's no way for people. to get to it. So, that it's protected. and even the park service. >> doesn't even know it's there. I mean, we. we have people who watch it and make. sure it's, you know, not being broken into, but. it's uh it's in an area people wouldn't.
expect. >> We're not trusting the American. government for security. Okay. >> No. >> Okay. >> No way. >> So, um but it is in Washington DC. >> Okay. >> The other the other vault is actually in. Montana. >> Okay. at an area in Montana, which we. haven't said before either, but in fact, Lewis and Clark when they did their. excursion, when they they were doing. their their trip up there,
one of the things they were checking on. was that vault when uh Jefferson sent. them up there. Uh they they were checking on that. vault. That was one of the things they. were checking on as part of their. mission. Jefferson a Mason? >> He was a Templar. >> He was a Templar. Yeah. So he would he. knew. >> Correct. Yeah. And there's some. speculation he was also a Mason. Okay. I. mean, uh there are no. >> that's debated because there's no. records of his initiation, but.
>> when he died, there was a Masonic. funeral held for him. He was known to. have also attended the lodge of nine. muses in France, which he wouldn't have. been allowed to do unless he was a. Mason. uh his he had uh nephews who were were. named after him who were all Freemasons. Um. and there were Masonic codes that were. found amongst his writings.
Uh he he wouldn't have he wouldn't have. known all that unless he was involved. and he was a Templar. Um, and uh, of. course when Lewis and Clark were sent, they were Masons and they were trading. aprons with some of the tribes. Why would that be? It's because those. those connections were already. established centuries before. Uh, in fact, anytime you you encounter a.
tribe that uses the red equal arm cross. or the. cross of Lraine, which is archaeologists. say, oh, it was their way of depicting a. firefly or not a fire a dragonfly. Well, no, it wasn't. It was actually a. crossrain because it was a Templar. symbol. Sure. So, these were all tribes. that had established connections with. the Templars already. And uh so anyhow, one of these tribes. continues to protect.
uh one of the vaults up in Montana. So. those. those connections are still there. But. one point in time there used to be seven. vaults, one of which was actually on Oak. Island. >> That's what the whole Oak Island mystery. is. But but we cleared that out in 1765. And this is going to be a bummer for. people who watch the show, but we we we. our records say we cleared that out in.
1765. in preparation for the American. Revolutionary War. >> Ah, >> because we already knew. that we were going to have to do that. war to establish the United States as a. free state and from England. where these freedoms could be. perpetuated. And um Benjamin Franklin was actually. one of the people in charge of making. sure that vault was cleared out to gain. the money and resources cuz a lot of the.
gold had to be melted down to be used to. fund the revolution. >> Sure. >> So. >> So that was a So that was a whole. another thing. So. So there were um um other than. the arcs, there were other artifacts. One of the things that was discovered in. East Jerusalem. in the area is it's now referred to as. the Talpiet tomb. There was a tomb in East Jerusalem that.
was discovered that had oaries in it. These oscillaries. contain the bones. of Jesus, Mary Magdalene, John the Baptist. and their children. And I say their. children because it was also it was. according to our records, Templar. records, Jesus was m or I'm sorry, Mary. Magdalene was married to John the.
Baptist prior to Jesus and that they had. children. And when John the Baptist died. was he was killed, >> Jesus then took on the responsibilities. of John the Baptist. is John was the. earlier messiah. >> Right. Exactly. And Mary was the. financier. She was a very rich woman. In. fact, her name uh Magdalene comes from. Magdal which meant tower and it was she.
was the woman of this tower. She had she. had a lot of wealth and so she was. funding. uh John the Baptist and he was meant to. be the original. Messiah figure. Uh and then when he was. killed, Jesus took on that role. >> I want to ask you about that. I want set. this up just for those listening. Uh. because it's an extraordinary claim. In. 1945,
the Gospel of Philip was found in. ancient Egypt. >> Yeah. >> Which. >> Mary Magdalene is featured very heavily. and considered Jesus's favorite. disciple. Right. >> There's even a passage of them. >> kissing kissing. >> Right. Yeah. He used to kiss her on the. mouth. Yes. says, "Yeah." Um, yeah. And. the these were and and by the way, again, when the Templars were. doing all of that research in Egypt a. thousand years ago,
they discovered some of these. clay jars, Naj Najamundi, where you know all the Najamundi scrolls. were found, >> right? That's about five minutes from the. Valley of the Kings. It's right next to. it. People don't realize it is right. there. >> I didn't know that. >> And so all of that research that the. Templars were doing in um Luxor, which is just right outside of the. Valley of the Kings.
Uh and then they were going into these. tombs in the Valley of the Kings. They. were going into that whole area of Naja. Mundi and they found some of these. uh some of these texts which is also. part of what they brought over to the. new world and and it and it supported. their Gnostic belief system that they. that the Templars were secretly. practicing at the time. Um, and. narcissicism is it.
>> so it's it comes from the word nosis. which means divine revelatory knowledge. and it was the belief that anybody. through their own efforts could tap into. this universal consciousness. that was referred to as the. >> Christoh. >> and so rather than Christ being the last. name of Jesus like I think many people. think Jesus Christ is like his last name. Jesus when he was speaking as the.
Christ, he was speaking as this universal. consciousness. >> I it could be argued that he was anostic. in a sort of way. >> 100%. And not only that, but according. to our Templar belief, Mary Magdalene. was a. was quite possibly a priestess of the. Isis tradition. >> of Egypt. And Mary Magdalene represented what was.
known as the Sophia, >> which was wisdom. >> Yeah. >> The goddess of wisdom. And uh and. according to the early Gnostic. tradition, Sophia was the bride of. the Christ. just like Mary Magdalene was the bride. of Jesus. So Jesus represented the. Christos, Mary Magdalene represented the. Sophia and. uh their story.
was really the story of. uh the journey the spiritual journey of. every person who incarnates on this. planet who is a soul who incarnates into. matter who gets lost in it eventually. works their way out of it. They they. come to marry or unite with the. universal consciousness. and that's where the escape is from this. prison planet. >> Sure. >> Or we're here to learn to have.
experiences and bring it back to the. >> Christo. Exactly. Exactly. Yep. So. >> So that's nasticism in a real nutshell. I mean there is a belief the Gnostics. believe that that uh that this prison is. this planet is a prison planet until you. wake up and then once you wake up you. can choose to incarnate back here to. help wake other people up to help other. people escape the the cave.
uh you know from the Plato. >> right. >> metaphor. Um, or you could choose to. just continue to reincarnate to have. experiences. Or you could also choose to not. reincarnate anymore and to into a b to. exist in a different realm of light. that's beyond this dimension. >> Well, we have got about 10 minutes left. for the next break and I want to get. into narcissism, alchemy, and all of. that. Emerald Tablet. >> Yeah.
>> Um, but let's finish up with the bones. Where did where did you find them? How. do we know? So, so the Templar order. they they've discovered this tomb. clear back during the Crusades. uh that was the tal what's known as the. Talpiat tomb and they removed all the. bones from these ouaries and they took. them they again same routes they brought. them into to to Paris into Scotland and.
then eventually over into the new world. and they uh put them in these vaults. And [snorts] then back in the 1980s, this tomb was rediscovered where they. found the boxes, the ouaries that had. the names on them, but the bones were. missing. >> And it's because the bones had already. been removed. clear back during the Middle Ages. And. not only were the bones removed at that. time, but the the Templars put three. skulls.
in the in the east, the west, and the. south of the tomb. as kind of symbolic. guardians of the tomb. And they um and. they buried it under uh a rose. uh. garden. >> So it was under the rose and that's. really where that term sub rosa comes. from, you know, beautiful. >> which was, you know, the secret. >> Yeah. secret knowledge, you know.
>> So why not test the bones? Why not. release that information? >> We haven't had the technology to do that. till recently, >> right? So now we do. >> So now we do. So So the hope is. we've been hanging on to these things. for centuries now. We're finally at a. point where not only do we have the. technology to test them, but we have the technology to reveal. them all to the world at once. How much responsibility and weight do.
you feel about that? >> Quite a bit. But but it's it's time. You know, we've always been wanting to. get build up to this time where we could. have a world community where people have. the freedom to explore other ideas. uh where and for the last 40 years we've. been trying to get information out there. to break down the conditioning because. people have all kinds of cultural.
conditioning and beliefs. >> Well, Jesus resurrected bodily to. heaven. So this. >> Yeah. So this this interferes with that. idea. But that's but again remember. that's that's a conditioning that the. church has perpetuated. from a Gnostic standpoint. The Gnostics believed in reincarnation. >> True. >> So, it's not a problem for the idea that. Jesus could have died. and uh could reincarnate.
>> Yeah. >> I have a quite a few people in my. audience who are uncomfortable with this. story. >> Sure. >> Can you put them at ease? >> Sure. Absolutely. There. So. another example of this uh in the Bible. of reincarnation. be beyond the idea of being born again. right everyone thinks born again is this. symbolic thing well not necessarily it's. could literally mean being born again.
uh but there's also passages uh like in. um in the standard gospel. uh like when the when when they They the. disciples go to there's a great passage. where the disciples go to Jesus and they. say Jesus. um. the people are saying that the prophet. Elias has returned and Elias is just the. Greek word for Elijah. Right? So the so. the the Hebrew Elijah is the Greek. Elias. So. >> Elijah by the way also went bodily to.
heaven. >> Correct. But it says. people are saying that the prophet Elias. or Elijah has returned. and Jesus says. he has but it's in a new form that the. people don't fully recognize yet. And. then it says then the disciples. understood he was talking about John the. Baptist. >> Well, we know who John the Baptist's. parents were.
>> Mhm. So that means if Elijah is. returning as John the Baptist, it has to be he's reincarnating. >> Right. >> Right. So there's an example right there. in the New Testament of reincarnation. >> I would assume that the Vatican does not. like any of this. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Because. the Vatican would rather have you. believe you have one life. and the only way to get to heaven is. through them. Right.
>> Right. Right. Which is good business. >> Sure. >> Right. I mean, and um. if and it also they'll also have you. believe that uh it doesn't matter what. sins you commit. Uh but if you believe in Jesus, you. know, you do the crime, Jesus will do. the time. >> That's true. >> Right. So, uh you can still get to. heaven. Whereas the Gnostics said no you. are personally responsible for your own.
salvation and your salvation comes from. awakening. and that uh part of that awakening is to. your own personal responsibility. So you. do the crime, you know, you do the penance to make up. for the crime. >> Last question. I'm going to put you on. the spot a little bit. Um, from what I understand, to be a Mason in. your 32, 32nd degree, >> correct? >> To be initiated, you need to believe in. a higher power.
>> Correct. >> Do you? >> Absolutely. 100%. I believe in God uh or. source or Allah or. >> whatever you want to call it, >> the great source, >> the great source, the the origin. and. and uh from from a nost I consider. myself a gnostic. uh we believe that that the supreme god. is comes from a realm of light that is. beyond this matter but there's a seed of. that light within everybody.
and part of what Jesus came back to do. was he was a great exemplar. he wasn't coming as a savior he is. coming to give the example of how to. live and how to bring that light outside. of ourselves so that we can and that by. the way that light is within everybody. of all faiths of all religions.
and all religions were started. through a gnostic experience a. revelation. >> certainly. >> you know and that's and so then that. that person became the prophet that. started those religions but that. they're all telling the same story and. they're all pointing to the same source. and we are all connected by that light. And this is what. this is why the Templars believed in.
freedoms come from God and they come. from that source [snorts]. and that this is why they also believed. in democracy. >> Sure. >> Right. because it's inherently within. us. And so we all have that right to. have a say. >> So when Jesus was performing miracles, >> yeah, and he said, "Veril, verily, I say. unto you, those these miracles you see. me perform, ye shall do also, and those. even greater than these.". >> He was being an exemplar for it. And.
that we all have that potential within. us. >> We all have the potential to heal. We all have the potential to awaken to. this higher consciousness. >> And that would be sort of my message to. anyone who's uncomfortable with this is. >> Jesus, I think, gave us a great gift. with the with with what he's passed. down. >> Yeah. >> And uh and with the Templars continuing. that message, let's take uh one last. break and then got to talk about.
Atlantis. I'm so excited. >> Cool. Yeah, let's do it. >> I've been following your work for a long. time. you know, I'm a fan. Um, just to tell the audience, when I did my. Nights Templar episode, >> Tim was kind enough to trade a few. emails with me and really enlighten me. in a lot of things. And uh, and I've. been a fan ever since cuz this is a. very, very kind man. No matter, you. could believe his claims, you don't have. to believe them. This is a storytelling. podcast. I love this story. And one of. my favorite stories of all is Atlantis,
Anunnaki, and all of that. So. >> watching you contribute with Randall. Carlson has been very exciting. >> Randall's great. >> So Atlantis, what's your take on it? What? >> Yeah. So definitely from a Templar. perspective, we believe that uh the. Templar story is look, Atlantis was this. advanced civilization. It was a worldwide network. Um there's some debate about where that.
center of activity was. Uh Randall certainly believes it was in. the Azors. For a long time, the Templar Order. believed it was in the Azors. In fact, that's the whole reason why Portugal. runs the is in control of the Azors. >> Mhm. >> Right. Because Portugal again was. founded as a Templar state initially. >> Sure. >> And um so that was all part of that. >> I think some of Plato's writings lines. up with that. >> It does. It does. And Randall does a.
great job of of showing all that. Um, but. you know, when it collapsed, uh, we believe it was right when Plato. said it was, which was 9,000 years. before him, which was right at the. younger dus cataclysm. >> Sure. Uh, we know that the ice shelves, there's three miles of ice um. that that went from the North Pole all.
the way down to Chicago in in North. North America. But you also found this. in Europe and it all melted rapidly. >> You believe in the impact theory? >> Yeah, I do. I do. I think so. You know, there's two theories out there. One is. that it was solar flare. Robert Shock uh. suggests that. The other is that it was. um. more of a comet fragments that broke up. and hit the ice sheets. Uh uh Graham. Hancock certainly pushes that one.
>> I'm torn, but I. >> It could be both. I mean, it could be. both. >> I I used to work for the Space Labs up. in in Boulder, Colorado, and we we. created a um. a satellite that was called the Advanced. Composition Explorer satellite or the. ACE satellite, and it still exists. It. is uh it sits at what's known as the L1. point between where the gravity of the. Earth and the gravity of the sun is. equal. So it just sits there in space. and it looks at the sun 24/7.
>> Right. The range points. >> Yeah. And it's what it's looking for is. solar flares so that we have an early. warning detection system. >> Those terrify me. >> Right. because we could we in in all. probability we may have another um. what's there was a Carrington event back. in the 1800s. >> y. >> and it just fried all there was a solar. flare fried all the cable the telegraph. cables. >> sure. >> set them on fire electrocuted operators. >> but that was pretty much the extent of. it you know I mean there wasn't an.
infrastructure based on electricity back. then. >> if that same event were to happen today. uh the government estimates that within. 2 months 80% of the population will be. dead. >> No question. >> Because. everything we depend on, I mean, you're. not going to be able to use your your. computers, your phones, your your cars, uh everything pumps that pump water and. sewage. Those will stop working. Uh.
it'll be a mess, right? >> And it will happen at some point. >> Sure. What we found though also when I was. working there at the space labs is when. we enter into areas where there's more. cosmic debris. that's hitting the earth. that that same debris is going into the. sun which is also fueling more solar. flares. >> Right? >> So it could be. both. You know, we could have had these.
cosmic fragments. that were hitting the the ice caps. and they were also going into the sun, triggering more solar flares at the same. time. So, it doesn't have to be one or. the other. It could be both. But what we. do know is. regardless of what was triggering it the. most, at the younger dest, it was. melting. the ice caps rapidly. sea levels rose 300 feet.
uh this is the reason why for examp this. is what what formed the great lakes. uh in the United States it's what the. separation of like England from the rest. of Europe for example that English. Channel that's when that was formed you. can look at the bottom of the English. Channel this day there's still the the. foundations of houses down there. >> cuz that was all above water at one time. Oh yeah.
>> okay. >> so it's it's all, you know, it it it. just caused mass flooding, um mass. cataclysm, and uh if if there was a civilization as. advanced as we are today, there's nothing of it that would have. survived. If the same thing were to. happen today, there's nothing we've. created that would have survived 10,000. years from now. So. um.
so from a Templar perspective what. happened was. the cataclysm occurred in stages. and. the at we'll just call them the. Atlanteans. they sent out. um. pockets of survival into certain places. where they tried to bring their. technology and their knowledge. >> did they know where it could be. reserved. >> Did they know that this was coming? >> They knew it was coming on some level. and they couldn't stop it, >> right?
>> Um and you know, according to Plato, they were greedy and whatever else. And. so their their their selfishness and. their narcissism. led to them, you know, fighting with each other to. not be able to develop what they needed. to do to survive it. Anyways, >> but he might have added that. >> He might have added that thing, of. course. So. >> because. >> because there's there's always a moral. story but under it is also hidden deeper.
truths. You find that in the story of. Noah too. To give an example in the. story of Noah, the earth is obsessed with its physical. senses. Along comes a flood, right? And. then Noah lets birds go into the air to. test. uh if there's land somewhere. Eventually. after 40 days and 40 nights he lands on. Mount Ararat and he makes a burnt. sacrifice to God.
Well these stages correspond to. alchemical stages of. earth is associated with physical. association. Water was associated with emotions. and was kind of the next stage of. alchemical work was associated with. digestion. Air was the next stage which will let. birds go into the air and then fire was. the last stage and uh carcination.
and uh mount and ararat is a Sanskrit. word that means illuminated one right. So. >> so contained within this story of this. cataclysm was actually this also this. this secret science you know. >> um of awakening. >> and so that's what these ancient myths. used to do. They used to.
they used to incorporate. both sacred knowledge and. history but in a in a story you know. that could be any child could you know. enjoy you know so but there were but but. because there were all these myths these. same flood myths all over the world I. mean that the Templars figured that out. pretty quick so they figured out there. must be something to this and uh so the.
Templar order according to the secret. tradition Temple Order was secretly. founded to go regain the technologies. and any lost knowledge that was being. preserved. from this pre-dolivian civilization. >> Did they find any? >> They did. They found well they found the. arcs. They found manuscripts and they. found secret knowledge. And. more importantly,
they found that the initiation rights. that they were passing on, which involved, amongst other things, a. symbolic. death or killing of a candidate and. raising him back from the dead. uh which represented not only the person. dying to the to their old self and. waking up to their new self. but it also represented that. civilization that had collapsed.
and then needed to be raised again. Uh. but there was a secret hand grip that. was given during this raising. and they found that this secret. initiation ceremony was being preserved. in the same manner. all over the world ancient world at. certain areas the ancient Egyptians were. practicing it the Mayans were practicing. it the Drews were practicing it.
>> even though they're supposed to have no. contact. >> even though they're supposed to have no. contact with you. It was the exact same. initiation ceremony and the exact same. secret handshake. >> Did those ceremonies ceremonies involve. alchemy? >> They did. Yeah. So, alchemy was another. big part of it, right? Because alchemy. was the. this was believed to be the science. of Atlantis. The colors of Atlantis were black, red,
and white, which are the colors of the. al alchemical process. Literally, the. trans transformations that go from black. to red to white, >> right? >> When you're doing the alchemical work. And. >> what are the colors of the Knights. Templar? >> Black, red, and white. What are the. colors of the E flag of Egypt? >> Black, red, and white. >> What was what were the colors of ancient. Egypt? Black, red, and white. you know, >> amazing. >> Yeah. I mean, it was it was all the same.
thing. And. the um so and it was all in the science. of alchemy, which by the way comes from. the word alchem or alchemtt. Chem or chemt was the ancient name for. Egypt. So it was the land. the land of Kem or the lamb of Kemmet. was this land that was preserving this. knowledge. and uh so alchemy.
comes from that and the Templars were. were figuring this out. They were. passing it on. There were three main. stages in the alchemical process. The. first was digestion. where you took whatever you were working. on, whether it be a metal or a herb, and. you put it in a liquid that would break. it down. This was also associated with with.
baptism. It was called baptism by water, >> right? After which it would change. uh and it would turn black. When it did this, it was known as. kaputmortem, which means dead head. All. right. So, so let's talk about John the. Baptist for a minute. What did he do? Baptized with water. And then what. happened to him? >> Got his head cut off. That's right. Dead. head. Could put mortem. Right. >> First stage of the alchemical process.
Um then the next stage was distillation. where the liquid you would heat it and. it would turn into a steam and then you. could collect that steam and it would. have within it the volatile chemicals. whether it be oils from an herb or oils. from a. um from like a gold chloride or. something, you know, an a uh a metal. that had been broken down u by acids as.
opposed to by. water or alcohol. Um. so so that was the second stage. associated with air and it was always. represented by birds and alchemical. texts. And then the last stage was. calcination. or fire where you burnt the original. material down to its ashes and you. extract the secret salts out of them. which was the hidden mana or these.
monatomics. >> Yep. >> Right. And then you could combine these. processes together to create this new. uh elixir that was more potent than the. original thing you started with. Right? Right? And that's how you create all. medicines are created this way. Um but. all metallic transmutations are created. this way too. So. and the f and uh the original thing you. were working on was associated with.
earth. The digestion was associated with. water or liquids. The distillation was. associated with air. Um and then uh. calcination was associated with fire and. uh and these were the the the the. you started with earth and then you went. to to. liquid, gas and plasma states basically. Um, and this was all part of the.
alchemical process. And you find this. [snorts]. even in the ancient the myths of Osiris, the god Osiris. You know, in the story, he's he's he's. first he's depicted as green, which. represented green vegetation. He's chopped up. He's thrown into the. Nile, which is the water stage. Right. >> Right. Isis then goes to find him. She turns. herself into a bird. Starts flying.
around him. That was uh distillation. That was the air stage. And then she. lights oil lamps and incense, puts them back together, and raises them. right to a new form, >> right? >> Well, that's the alchemical process. >> It's the same with the story of Noah. Earth is obsessed with its physical. senses. Along comes a flood water. He. lets go birds. Distillation.
He lands on Mount Arat. Makes a burnt. sacrifice to God. Calcination. It's the same science being depicted in. all of these ancient texts. And the. people that were passing on these. stories were preserving these alchemical. sciences. Well, we you said something. really interesting that so we have. white, black, and red. I believe those. are the color stages of the philosopher. stone, >> correct? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So.
the philosopher stone was just. you go through those stages of the so. technically. the uh the entire alchemical process it. it turns black red white and then black. red white again and then black red white. a third time and and then you're you you. basically you've purified it these. different ways and extracted what you. needed at each stage to create this. philosopher stuff.
>> Sure. >> That was that was the idea behind it. >> And before people roll your eyes, um. Isaac Newton spent most of his time. pursuing this. >> 85% of everything Newton wrote on had to. do with alchemy. >> Yeah. >> You know, I mean, it was just the 15%. was on gravity or whatever. But he but. even that was tied into alchemy. He he. was noticing that there were under the. uh you know if when he when he zoomed. down on the elements and metals he he.
found that there was these secret forces. that were acting. >> you know which we now recognize as like. coalent bonds and stuff that were that. were forming. >> between things. But uh there were these. secret forces that were were were uh. that he could see under the microscope. and uh he also saw those same same. secret forces happening between the. planets above. So he rationalized. according to the emerald tablet as above. so below that there was there was a.
force that was happening that was. happening both on the upper and on the. lower. >> Sure. and uh he was trying to understand. what that force was and so that's how he. developed gravity. But. >> wasn't he working off a translation of. of the emerald? >> Yeah. Yeah. In fact, he had his own. translation of it. He has in my book, Alchemical Keys to Masonic Ritual, I. actually have Isaac Newton's translation. of the Emerald Tablet in it. >> I'd love to read that. It's also in my. book, Novoclavis Esoterica. It's in. there. >> We'll put all that stuff up.
>> But it's uh but it's um yeah, that's. what Newton was doing. And and by the. way, there's a in that stage of the. alchemical process, there's a certain. point where. whether you're working with metals like. gold or whether you're working with. herbs, where you are um trying to. extract the secret salts out that's. hidden mana, these monatomics.
Uh there's a certain point where it. turns. yellow, very yellow, and it looks like piss. >> Yes. >> And the alchemist called this the. alchemist urine. >> I mean this. >> this is why this is why everyone thought. that you were you were had to extract it. out of urine. >> That's what I thought, >> right? But it's not actual urine. It's. philosophical urine. It's the the.
alchemist described what things looked. like, not what they actually were. So it. looked like urine. So they called it. urine. Or the or same reason why they. called when they first started digesting. an herb and it would start to turn. reddish, they called it minstrm. >> Ah, >> but it wasn't actual minstrm. Uh, so so it wasn't and I and I watched. your great episode on the emerald tablet.
and and the discovery phosphorus and. that came out of that, but but it was. the the true urine had nothing to do. with urine. >> Thank goodness. >> It had to do with it looked like urine. >> So all those people on those forums that. were collecting their urine, they made a. terrible mistake. >> Terrible mistake. [laughter] Yeah. I. mean there's and there are some people. that believe that their you know their. pineal gland is excreting uh you know. melatonin but also uh dimethyl tripolene.
the DMT. >> Sure. >> And that it gets collected in the urine. so that they could. extract that out of the urine. >> Oh, I never heard that. I'm not going to. try that. >> But but that's but that's not uh I would. not recommend that. I mean, uh, the true. urine that the alchemists were referring. to was it's it's a stage in the process. where it does it looks like urine, uh, but it's not really urine. It's, uh, that's just what it looks like. >> Um, who found the Emerald Tablet and.
does that connect to the Templars? So. that the well originally the emerald. tablet was said to be found. uh so it was written by Hermes or Hermes. Tris Majestice. Hermes the thrice great. um and it was said to be discovered. >> stop there for just a second. Her Hermes. Tres Majestice. So that's Hermes and and. I think and Osiris together. Yes. Well, it's kind of it's kind of so the story. of. of Osiris, as I just mentioned, was an.
alchemical metaphor. It was also the story of Atlantis, right? Where it was. originally it was the civilization. It got chopped up, sent out Isis. Isis, which by the way, her name means throne or power. Um, Osiris's name in Egyptian is Osar.
Uh, it was the Greek that named him. Osiris, [snorts] but his original name. in ancient Egyptian is Osar. And the S. part of it means Isis. It means throne because that's where the. power comes from, >> right? And then the sar was his part. By. the way, sar is where we get the word. sir and sire from. >> Okay. >> Um but uh but the throne was Isis. So.
the seed of power was Isis. So she goes. and collects the pieces, brings them back together, resurrects. them. And that's the story of Egypt. >> Right. Right. And Hermes is the god of. writing and knowledge. >> Right. writing knowledge. He was in the. ancient Egyptian he was to or Tahudi, >> right? To Yes. >> Yep. So um. and and by the way.
uh that story of Osiris also. symbolically represented from a Gnostic. standpoint. It represents the path that we all go. through where we come into this world. We incarnate. We see everything in pieces. or as separate. And it's only when we're. able to put them all back together again. into the oneness. that we have the understanding of that. we're all a part of this universal.
intelligence. >> This is why I need you here for eight. hours. >> So, but so that's a that's that's. another side. But so the Osai Smith. represented all these things, right? >> Okay. and and the and the pharaohs used. to. >> go through an initiation right where. they would be symbolically killed. >> Mhm. >> like Osiris. and then brought back. And and by the. way, this is what Templars believe Jesus. was doing with Lazarus.
He was initiating him because in Hebrew. Lazarus is elasur. Well, L is the Egyptian article for God. And Assur was the ancient Egyptian name. for the god Osiris. And he was raised in Bethany or in. Hebrew, Bethanu. Beth means house in. Hebrew. And Anu was the ancient Egyptian. abode of the dead, >> right? >> So you literally had Jesus raising the. god Osiris in the house of the dead,
which was either a metaphor or it was an. initiation, right? And we think it was. an initiation, right? Because Templars. continue to do that same initiation, right? And we're not the only ones. The Mayans continue to this day do that. same initiation, right? And you're raised by the same grip, the. same hand grip. That's how when the. Templars went over and met with the. Mayans, they were able to give them this.
hand grip and they recognized it. >> Yep. The Hopi, they recognize this same. hand grip. They say this hand grip was. given to them right before the last. shaking of the earth and it was given so. that everyone all the the high. priesthoods the high shaman would all. recognize each other again. >> That's fascinating. >> We came back together. >> because the hopey also have a legend. about the ant people coming out of the. caves. >> That's right. Who had brought them. underground right before the shaking of. the earth.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. It's the same cataclysmic myths, but um. the the Drews of Lebanon, they have this. same grip that they're giving in their. initiations. The um Sufi. have this same grip. Uh this same grip can be found within. the cobalistic traditions of the Judeaic. coalistic traditions. So it's.
and it is all associated with this. symbolic death and raising ritual. and uh the fact that all these different. cultures separated are practicing it and. have the exact same grip suggests it all. goes back to the same source. I I was. down in the Yucatan years ago. and uh I was meeting with the Mayan and. we give this grip to this day. I still. participate when we do our tours allow.
allow them to participate in these. ceremonies down there and they'll do. them. They the Mayans will do these. ceremonies for us because of my. association with them. And. uh but they had these they took me to. this um they had recently taken apart. this pyramid. uh in order to use the stones to build. fencing. which is kind of a sad commentary. >> It is, >> you know, but when they disassembled the.
pyramid, they found all these artifacts. in them that they kind of put into a. mobile home unit and turned it into a. museum. [snorts] And and the figures are. performing this initiation, right? >> Amazing. >> And I asked him, I said, "Well, how old. are these figurines? Do you know?" And. yeah, they'd actually been carbon dated. to about 900 AD. Well, that's before the. Templars ever existed, >> right? >> It's before any European ever went over.
to that we know of went over into the. Yucatan. Um, but the fact that they were practicing. it back at least that far. again suggests it's it's a tradition. they inherited and they say they. inherited it from. >> Yeah. I I think it's it's going to be in. short order that the mainstream. archaeology is going to become the.
fringe archaeology in in my opinion. >> Yeah, I I think you're right. We only. have about 20 minutes left, so let's get. back to the hermetica and and and the. emerald tablet. >> So, so the emerald tablet. supposedly it was originally discovered. in Siwa in Egypt. Um. uh according to tradition, Appalonius of. Tyana. uh discovered it. Uh according to. Templar tradition, Appalonius of Tyiano.
is actually the Apostle Paul. and that uh Paul just is short for. Appalonius, which just means little. Apollo. >> Right. >> Right. And uh and that um but that's a. whole another discussion. Uh but. supposedly he discovered this um this. tablet. and um. uh and. you know uh at the grave of Hermes or or.
Toth. >> Mhm. >> Um because again Hermes was to or Tahudi. in the ancient Egyptian. um and. continued to pass it on. Now what's. what's interesting from a. a uh. Najamundi. So Najaundi in Egypt is where all these.
earliest. uh fragments of the gospels were. discovered in these clay jars. Mhm. >> The other thing that they found in those. clay jars were a bunch of hermetic. texts, which means that these early. Christians were revering. hermetic texts. >> Sure. >> Just as much as the gospels. >> Sure. I mean, I I I'm assuming most. people know, but maybe not. But the. Bible was there was a lot of controversy.
what books would go in and come out. >> Right. Correct. Yeah. And some of those. some of those early fragments became. part of the standard gospels and some of. them didn't. I mean the council in Na. they were removed you know 3:25. >> So. >> the Gnostic texts were not going to make. it in there. >> Yeah. And a lot of the Gnostic texts. just weren't going to make it in because. they they painted a different. >> perspective. But those Gnostic texts. were in line with the hermetic texts. And one of the things we have to.
understand about hermeticism in general. and the emerald tablet falls into this. as well. It talks about um as above so. below. It says it says that the that uh. all was created by the meditation of the. one. and it all goes back to the one mind. Well,
hermeticists believe that look, if. you're the creator of all that is, say there's there's nothing around you. to create with because you're all that. is, right? You're the singular. intelligence. The only way that you could create is. within your own mind. And therefore, everything that we see. around us that we think is real and. solid and everything else is just mind. stuff. It's the mind of the creator.
[clears throat]. >> And of course, 20th century physicists. told us this. I mean, people like. Maxville Plank and Heisenberg and and. others, they all said the more they look. at the foundation blocks of matter, the. more they real appears that we're living. in a mind. It's all mind stuff. >> Sure. If you can explain the collapse of. the wave function, then go get your. Nobel Prize. >> That's exactly right. That's exactly. right. But it but it's completely in. line with the hermetic text. >> Sure. >> And of course this is completely in line.
with the things Jesus was saying too. You know I mean this is how you would. perform the miracles cuz if your mind is. a part of the greater mind. and all matter so-called matter is just. made up of mind stuff. >> What language is the tablet in? And. >> so the who created it? So supposedly the. original. this original emerald tablet which has. never been found but has been translated.
over the centuries was written in. Phoenician. >> Oh okay. >> So Phoenician and the thing we have to. understand about Phoenician is. the Phoenicians were basically the. cousins of the Egyptians. Uh in fact even Osiris when his when his. body finally his his. uh yeah his the parts of his body were. reassembled it was in Biblo which was uh.
a Phoenician city right uh but the um. yeah the phoenetians and by the way if. you look at the hieroglyphs for the. letters [sighs]. um the simple letters the the standard. letters, not like complex hieroglyphs. that explain different concepts, but. like actual letter forms. You look at. the Egyptian hieroglyphs, for example, the the Egyptian hieroglyph for the. letter M is an owl, right?
>> And if you look at the Phoenician. letter for the letter M, it looks like. the head of that owl. And you take the Phoenician and you take. it into the Hebrew, the Hebrew Hebrew. letter mem. It's just a. reemphasis of that Phoenician letter M. >> Yeah. >> So you can trace the Egyptian. hieroglyphs to the Phoenician to the. Hebrew very easily. >> Yep. >> And [snorts] uh.
>> I don't think that's controversial. >> It's not even it's not controversial. uh. and that's why a lot of the Egyptian. words became Phoenician words which. became Hebrew words and um even to this. day. So um but. the uh but the emerald tablet was. originally said to be written in this. Phoenician. language. Um and uh but was found in. Egypt.
and supposedly. uh and then translations of it had been. copied for the last several thousand. years uh going all the way back. Some of. the earliest sources were Arabic sources. copying it and then um later people like. Sir Isaac Newton were making their own. translations of it. >> Could the Phoenetians have gotten that. information from the Atlantanss? >> Possibly. I mean again the Phoenetians. were kind of like the cousins of the the.
Egyptians and they were both believed to. be the same. essentially the same cultures. They even. had the same gods. I mean like toth or. tahudi of ancient Egypt was Tuat of the. Phoenicians. So it was and uh the Egyptians even the. Phoenicians said that their chief god. was known as allelen. which just was this god of light.
and uh the same llen was probably the. atton of the Egyptians you know that was. the secret one god you know that all the. the gods were said to be a part of you. know um in the same. Even today. like uh within Christianity we have the. archangels. >> Mhm. >> But if you break down the names of the. archangels like Uriel for example, L.
means God. So Uriel means the light of. God. Raphael means uh God heals, >> right? >> Um Gabrielle means the strength of God. >> I didn't know that. >> Yeah. Mikiel means is like God. So. they're all aspects of God. >> Sure. >> Right. They're just like So if you want. to pray to the healing aspect of God, you pray to Raphael because that means. God heals, right? So Raphael is the the.
archangel. that delivers the message that you need. healing to God, you know, according to. standard. uh modern Christian theology. But if you. really break down the Hebrew roots, it it's like these are their own beings, but they're aspects of God. In the same. way ancient Egyptians believed that the. the different need the Nidaru, the. different gods were aspects of the one.
God. You know, that was the great secret. that Aknaten revealed [clears throat]. and then got in trouble for. So. >> Oh, yes. >> Yeah. So, you've got a a tour coming up. in March. >> Yeah. End of March uh beginning of April. to um. Egypt. >> What are we going to see that that other. that you can't see if you go on? >> Yeah. So, if you go on our tours, we we. go to all the major temples in Egypt. Uh. and so the we start out in at Giza and.
we uh start to go to the temples around. Giza and then we fly to Luxor. >> Mhm. >> And we see Luxor and Carac and then all. and Aswan and uh. >> Osiran. >> Yeah. We go to the Osiris and Abbidos. Mhm. >> Um and and we have. a lot of tourists if you go to these. places, you can kind of look over them.
like the Sphinx. There's a kind of a lookout point where. you can look down at the Sphinx, but. you're not allowed to actually go into. the Sphinx enclosure. But we have. our tour has access to everything. So, we can actually go into these areas. We. can go into the Sphinx. We can go into. the Oyeran. There are secret. areas in uh the temple of Hatheror. Dendera.
that are closed to the public, but we. have access to them. So, we actually go. into them. And uh and then. uh the the trip culminates. back at Giza and we have the Great. Pyramid to ourselves. The last night we. literally they kick all the tourists off. the Giza plateau. We get a military. escort to the Great Pyramid. They guard. it for the night for us. And we for for.
those people who are interested in the. Templar path. will initiate them. >> Well, you can. >> in the pyramid. >> You could petition to become a Templar. >> Correct. Yeah. So, so, so we have a pre-study body known as the. Templar Collegia, and anyone could go to. that. It's templar collegia.org. Uh, it's 40 bucks. You you you apply for 40 bucks or 50. bucks, something like that. We do a.
background check. Long as everything. looks good, we send you your first study. material. It's a thousandpage book. It's. called the Codeex. And it's uh all the. fundamental information that we feel. like you need to know as a templar. >> I'm buying it today. >> Yeah, it's great. And then and then. there's a second codeex volume two too. after you've studied that. But so we get. people starting to study that. But if. they go on our tour,
we'll also initiate them in the Great. Pyramid. >> Unbelievable. And uh we're the only. group that's allowed to do this because. we've been doing it for the last. thousand years and we do it in the way. that was always traditionally done. >> Has Zahiwas ever gotten in your way? >> No. >> Okay. >> No. No. Um. we had we came close in 2011. We were. doing initiations in there, but it was. during the Arab Spring,
>> right? and Mubarak had just gotten. deposed and and Zahiwasi just gotten. fired, >> right? [snorts]. >> And uh and that's a whole another story. that I don't, you know, we don't need to. get into right now, but like but um you. know, we'd almost had run into some. problems then. And then there was about. a 10-year period where we couldn't do it. cuz things were too unstable in Egypt. But they're fine now. And when we travel. on these tours, we have armed guards.
with us from the Egyptian government who. make sure that we're all okay the entire. trip. And um you know, we set it up where we. have private time in all these temples. You know, we go to the temple of Horus. at Edfu, for example. We show you where. the Atlantis myth is inscribed on the. building or the the the the the legend. of Utlant.
>> That's what the Egyptian name for it is. Utlant. Um and so probably when Solon, you know, Plato's great greatgrandfather. um. talked about the Atlantis myth. I mean. he he was learning about utlant and he. just called it utlantis. and and that's how it came to play but. um we show you where utlant is written. on the temple wall and uh and and it.
shows you know all the needers and boats. you know coming to Egypt to set things. up and they have with them an ark on the. boat and there's actually a replica of. one of those arks in the temple. of Horus at uh. and we and that's closed to the public, but we actually have access to that as. well. So, you can go in and actually see. the the chamber and and see the ark. You.
know, it's a replica, but it's still. there. >> I would love the um the influence of the. knights to get us digging in the Hara. labyrinth. >> Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, I've known about. that for I first went there with. [clears throat] uh Robert Bval. >> Mhm. >> Uh back in 2010, 2011 and um we were. scoping that whole area out. It's been. known about for a long time. >> Well, since ancient Geratus.
>> Yeah. And there's still there there's. statues poking out of the ground and. everything there. It's it's pretty. amazing. >> But there's that metal ring down there. >> Yeah. 100%. That's that's there's a. couple things that still need to be dug. up in Egypt. That's one of them. There's. also an area we go to uh on our tour. called Elephantine Island. And. Elephantine Island looks like a bomb. went off on it, but it's um it's where.
there used to be a very early Jewish. temple on that island. There's a temple of Tutmos III there. Elephantine Island was like the museum. for the ancient Egyptians where they. brought all of their discoveries. It's one of the oldest places in Egypt. and it's closed to the public, but we. have access to it. And there there is a. museum on the island and they have.
things like boomerangs, right, that had been preserved there. >> Wow. >> What were they doing with boomerangs? And and the by the way the boomerangs. even have kangaroos on them. >> What? >> Yeah. So it's like clearly the ancient. Egyptians were traveling to to Australia. and bringing this stuff back and then. preserving it on the island. >> We also know that one of there's an arc. on Elephantine Island that hasn't been.
dug up yet. >> Oh. And it's it's issuing so much energy. that it's actually turning the granite. into slate on the island, which normally. would take thousands of years, but. something's doing it. There's so much. high energy, it's speeding up that. process. So, we show that on the island and we. kind of know where the ark is, but they've been digging down to it for. the last 60 years. This is some German.
scientists right now who are in charge. of all that. So, um, but again, and by the way, on the. island, there's also vegetation. uh that you find. It's the only place in. Egypt where you find this vegetation. And it's vegetation from the New World, from the Yucatan. >> Amazing, >> right? Which again proves something. you. know, they bringing things back, growing. it there. >> And there's temples, too. There's.
there's even a temple. that has a mural of Egyptians meeting. with Mayans on it, uh, on this island, and we show that. >> there's no question there's DNA evidence. that people, >> right? >> One last time, Tim, where can we find. you online, learn more about you? Uh, you have seven books. >> Yeah, seven books. You can you can well. you can find all my books on Amazon. If. you just Google Timothy Hogan, you'll. find them. >> Uh you can also find them at at Lulu.
Press. >> Uh you find there's a Timothy Hogan page. that has all my books. Um if you. [clears throat] are interested in the. tours, you can uh you can search for Templar. Travel Tours. That's my company. Next. year we're doing uh we have a Egypt. trip. We have a Mexico trip and we have. a UK trip. And at each of these areas, we explore not only the the Atlantean. connection, but the Templar connection.
with this stuff. And we show we prove on. the tour so you can see for yourself. these Templar connections at these. areas. >> Can't wait. Um, and then uh and then uh. the other. uh company that I do that you can find. me you can is well you can you can go to. templarcolgia.org. That's where if you're interested in. potentially starting the study uh and. becoming a Templar you can do you can go.
there and uh we can start you on that. process. And then u finally if you uh look up um. Nurab Buddha or Templar made. Templar made is my company where we. manufacture monatomic gold. >> Okay. >> And we make that available to to the. public to. >> but not with urine. >> But not with urine. There's no urine. involved. Yeah. [laughter] Even though. there's a stage in the process that's.
called the urine stage because it looks. like urine, >> but it's not. It's actually gold. chloride. So which looks like urine. >> Tim Hogan, this has been a a treat. A. joy. >> Yeah. As well. It's been a super joy for. me. I I love the work that you do and. I'm so thankful that you brought me on. here. >> Please come back anytime. >> I would love to do that. We have a lot. we more we can talk about. >> So much. All right. Have a great time. Bye everybody. >> That was Tim Hogan who has become one of. my favorite people. He's kind, compassionate, [music] and he knows. everything about the Knights Templar.
But let's break down the conversation. Here's what we know for sure. Tim's. credentials check out. [music] He's the. Grandmaster of the Order of the Temple. of the Secret Initiates. His family. history with Freemasonry and the. Templars is documented. General Joseph. Warren is real. [music] The Denver. airport connections are real. His father. was mayor of Aurora. The standard. Templar history he laid out 1118 to. 1307, [music]. the banking system, Friday the 13th, Jacqu Malay's execution. That's all. historical record, so there's no issues. there. As for the big claims, Tim talks.
about the younger dus cataclysm wiping. out an advanced civilization. Well, that. [music] was fringe science until pretty. recently. A 2024 study from the. University of South Carolina found. shocked quartz evidence supporting the. younger dry impact hypothesis [music]. that a massive comet possibly 50 mi wide. struck the Earth about 12,900 [music]. years ago. The mainstream is catching up. on this one, and I'm on board. As for. monatomic gold as a superconductor, [music]. that's another piece of pseudocience.
that's becoming not so pseudo. There's. actually a 2024 peer-reviewed paper in. the Benny SUFF University Journal. examining gold warmis in relation. [music] to superc conductivity research. Now Tim sells this stuff on his website. I can't vouch for it, but I can't debunk. it. Purchase and consume at your own. risk. Now the ark as an electrical. capacitor. Well, the Jewish Bible. Quarterly published an academic paper on. exactly this theory. The gold wood gold. construction mirrors a laden jar. the. science [music] tracks even if the.
application is speculative. Now, if you. watch my episode on the ark, I break. down how this works scientifically. And. during our conversation, we mentioned. that Isaac [music] Newton spent most of. his time on alchemy. Well, that's true. Indiana University's chemistry [music]. of Isaac Newton project documents that. he wrote about a million words on. alchemy. Francis Bacon's [music]. New Atlantis being connected to Rosa. Historian Francis Yates made that. argument academically. Now, one claim I. couldn't verify. Tim says Harry Truman. wrote, "We have discovered an ancient.
weapon about the atomic bomb." Now, I. searched Truman's actual diary entries. from 1945. He calls it the most terrible. thing ever discovered, but I couldn't. find that specific ancient weapon. language anywhere. Now, the big ones, the bones of Jesus and Eva in [music]. Washington, DC, the six arcs his order. claims to have. Well, the Talia tomb was. discovered in the 1980s. The oaries are. real. The names are [music] real. DNA. testing was done. But whether those were. Veg Jesus and Mary Magdalene, that's. [music] a bigger claim than I can.
process in one sitting. My take is that. Tim Hogan is either sitting on secrets. that rewrite [music] history or he's the. most committed storyteller I've ever. met. What I can't shake is how much of. what he says lines up where the actual. science is heading. Younger driest. impact, the [music] pioelectric. properties of the pyramids granite, the. hermetic roots of modern science. Mainstream research keeps catching up to. ideas that used to [music] be fringe. Now, to learn more about Tim, check out. his book, The Templar Legacy, on Amazon, or even join him on one of his tours to.
Egypt or the UK. Check out Templar. Travel Tours.wordpress.com, or easier is search for the Facebook. group [music] Templar Travel Tours. I'm. actually going to go on one of these. Now, remember, Tim's not here to. convince you of anything. What you. believe [music] is up to you. Either. way, it's a heck of a story. Until next. time, be safe, be kind, know that you. are appreciated. >> [music]. [bell].
[music]. >> Oh, I played Bibia in Area [music] 51. A. secret code inside the Bible said I. would. I love my [music] UFOs and paranormal. fun as well as music singing like I. should. then another [music] conspiracy theory. becomes the truth my friends.
and it never [music] ends. No, it never ends. [music]. I fear the crab guy. I got stuck inside. Mel's home with [music] MKL truck. I. feel only aware. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon. landing alone on a film set [music] of.
shadow people there? The Roswell aliens just fought [music]. the smiling man. I'm told. and his name was cold. I can't leave. [music] I'm dancing with. the fish and your fish on Thursday night. [music]. and. all through the night. All I ever wanted was to [music] be the.
truth. One more through the night. [music]. The [music] M sightings and the solar. storm still come to gather this young. city underground.
>> [music]. >> Mysterious number stations, Planet. Circle, Project Stargate, and what the. Dark Watchers found. [music]. in a simulation. Don't you worry though. the black night. Oh, I can't [music] believe I'm dancing. with the fish. on Thursday night when they ch [music]. all through the night.
All I ever wanted was to hear [music]. the truth. all through the night. [music]. When they change you and me all through. [music]. the truth. with me all through.
>> [music]. >> Girl loves to dance. Your girl loves to dance [music] on the. dance floor because she is a camel. Camel loves to dance [music] when the. feeling is well way in time. Heat. Heat. [music].
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